Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28203534-20160509153448/@comment-28247797-20160523050904

@Narutopwnu7 That literally has NOTHING to do with Hashirama in base form beating EMS Madara. He can't beat Madara without SM. EMS Mad's PS was easily tanking nuclear explosions while Hashirama's Wood Golem couldn't handle it at all. Madara took Kurama because he wanted to increase his odds at winning. EMS Madara cannot beat SM Hashirama, so he took Kurama. EMS Madara does however beat base Hashirama.

@9 Arts dragon It doesn't matter because he has nothing in base to defeat Madara. There were no cracks, dents or any form of damage even taken by PS until Hashirama went SM and pulled out 1,000 hand statue.

@TheFC12 You don't know for sure, but if it wasn't used then clearly it was Tobirama+Hashirama+Senju fodder. They clearly stomp EMS Madara, Hashirama won't need to use SM to defeat Madara if he has anyone else.

Give me proof, scans, a feat or just something where Hashirama alone defeats EMS Madara in base form (No Sage Mode.) We've already seen the extent of Hashirama's techniques without SM and Madara was dealing with them. Hashi himself said Madara left him no choice and he had to go into SM to put Madara down.