Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-12509038-20140927020530/@comment-4271790-20141004051019

KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: @WindStar- I thank you for your quick response. Glad to know not everyone feels the same as the others above. Likewise, I appreciate your editing abilities, and I consider you one of the greater members of the community. You can call me @Windy. :) KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: You are right that their statements didn't need to be multiple paragraphs. It's more along the lines that ideas are usually generally better presented when going into more detail than just a few sentences. That's what I was going for- as I was trying to sell everyone on why there should be a new arc, I wanted the people who oppose to do the same and sell me why there should not be. Not that I am condemning having multiple paragraphs (or a big and long one) to explain something, but they aren't always needed to prove a point, as you've clearly realized. KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: In actuality, the other thread I created was not necessarily to completely start discussing the next arc, but also to make sure people still cared about this thread. At the time, I believe there were around seven votes supporting a new arc, and I asked multiple times if we should proceed and never got an answer. I created that thread as a means to see if this discussion in this thread had come to an end. And as soon as I did that, many more people began voting against a new arc to the point where it is almost tied now. I understand, it may be very frustrating waiting on certain users to respond to what you have to say, but eventually, people will notice. It all takes a little patience. KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: No disrespect in this upcoming question, but when does a discussion become pointless? As noted in this very thread, eventually it becomes to the point where the two opposing sides continue to repeat themselves with no progression being made. That's why I suggest that the voting system become a last ditch effort. If a general consensus cannot be made through discussion, then the voting system is implemented, and after a set amount of time, whichever option has the most votes becomes the decision we make. From there on, then we can discuss how to handle that option in a way that will benefit the wiki. I realize this idea is probably meaningless, but I always think this is the best option in any situation where a common ground cannot be met. No disrespect received. A discussion becomes pointless when it becomes archived, meaning no one has responded to it within a certain time frame (such as 30 days). When a general consensus can't be made through discussion, I've seen us do two things: either we wait, or a sysop comes in and makes an executive decision, and we move on from there. KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: I always thought we should wait awhile before starting a new arc. Though I won't deny that I still advocate the creation of a new arc, or at this point, maybe moving things around so this whole Naruto and Sasuke conflict "fits" better in Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc (I am of course mentioning the possibility of extending the Ten-Tails Revival Arc and changing the name of the Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc), I still think we should have always waited a few more chapters to make the split. This discussion was mainly created to set the groundwork of the next arc so when we decided it was time to make the split, all of the details had already been worked out. Exactly. The only reason I opposed was that it was too early to decide on things regarding this topic (though we have jumped the gun and made early decisions before, but like Snapper2 said, one bad turn does not deserve another). KirinNOTKarin98 wrote: At this point, I've lost interest in debating this topic. While I still do feel differently than others, I'm not going to act on it too much anymore. Though I would like to explore the possibilities of Snapper's idea of extending the T-TR Arc and then possibly changing the name of the IT Arc; at this point, it seems like the best option. What do you think about doing something like this instead? So have I. I have also lost interest. The fact of the matter is, accusing you of being condescending was out of line. Yes, you were a little dismissive, but you weren't snobbish and insulting others' opinions. That's why I commented again despite losing interest in the topic. I fully agree with Snapper's notion of extending the Ten-Tails Revival Arc, and I've already said that renaming the Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc is very plausible.