Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180412091745

A was inches away from Naruto when he ran a circle around him so that is crap.

The manga also states that the first one to land a split second attack would win. Lets be real, Minato won because FTG put him into Obito's blind spot and without it he would never have gotten into that position on his movement speed alone.

Naruto's chakra arms are as fast as he is. The manga doesnt have to say it because it shows it in 598 when Naruto's chakra arm movent matches his arm speed. It doesnt matter what happened to Gyuuki, because Gyuuki was stationary by the time Obito was incoming. Naruto didnt try to stike Obito until he was close and despite his ability to make more chakra arms or move his chakra arm he wasnt able to even attempt another counter.

For the clone Mini Bijuudama attack, even if the clone was there just to serve as a distraction, it would be a more effective to at least try to keep it alive while Naruto himself tried to strike in his blind spot. The clone failed to avoid a nearly 360 degree swing when all it had to do was duck while the real Naruto tried Obito in the back while he was pre-occupied but he hadnt even covered the distance between them by that point because he gave his clone way to big a head start.

For the Long range Mini Bijuudama the Sharingan wouldnt help much in that situation because the Sharingan cant predict the movements of chakra constructs. Naruto still has the ability to move and redirect his arms and he didnt have the time to do that while Obito reposition the gunbai to move out of the way

Naruto saw the fan come through the rock and he blocked it. He himself could have used it to this advantage since he was holding it but Obito managed to manipulate it around Naruto. He also could have used his chakra arms to push it away, or to move himself away from the chains but he couldnt. Being midair is no excuse because Obito did it in this very chapter as well as in 566.

If you find a lighter scan of the chapter, Obito's hand is clearly on Torune's shoulder. Because of wiki policy i cant post a link.

Kakashi didnt use Raikiri on any opponents during the war without a plan to restrain them nor did he use it on randoms all willy-nilly. And much like half the fanbase, Obito let Kakashi think he was worn down enough to take him. Starting in chapter 608 he was putting a lot of effort into trapping him in the Kamui dimension and had at least 3 chances to kill him and didnt do it. It was always part of his plan to use Kakashi to remove the seal.

If you still dont think Obito is KCM fast read 595 again and look at him be almost the same distance from Naruto the entire time Naruto is running from him after he phased through the ground. And in chapter 628 Obito actually travels the same distance from his Kamui portal as Naruto did when he dodged the attack.

As for Gai, the distance he threw the gunbai was way further than the distance Gai needed to move the nunchaku to block. Guy literally needed to flick his wrist and the nunchaku was like, half way into that position. The 3rd Raikage wasnt even that fast, he got hit by KCM Naruto and was too slow to punch Naruto before Dodai pulled a 180, did the signs for his jutsu, form the jutsu, and didnt even notice Dodai pulled a bait and switch and escape with Naruto. 3rdRai's notable skills were durablility and endurance. He was fast but never noted to be among the top speedsters.