Talk:Haku

Haku's Clan Name
On the Naruto-Arena game, it states that Haku's Clan is the Shiro Clan. Can anyone confirm this? --Dubtiger 16:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as I can gather, it was made up by the Arena game. No other "official" place has his clan name, Shiro.--TheUltimate3 00:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That was actually detailed on Wikipedia:Talk:Haku (Naruto). Here's some info there, we're actually missing some of it in the article:
 * The name "Haku" (白) (which is written in jōyō kanji) means "white", but is also in advertence to his immaculate personality.
 * Haku's family name is often thought to be Shiro (also meaning "white"). However, this is fanon, as this confusion is caused by the Malaysian Dub, in which Haku's name was changed to Shiro in Episode 15.
 * Haku remains very popular despite his relatively early death, routinely appearing in favorite character lists (as well as some of Naruto's own flashbacks, particularly during the Chunin Exam arc). However, he has fallen out of the top ten favorite characters.
 * Haku was apparently stronger than Zabuza, as Zabuza stated that over time, Haku's jutsu skills eventually surpassed that of his own.
 * So Haku's family name is not Shiro. Basically Haku, Shiro, and White mean the same thing in three different languages. Basically the name comes from the Malaysian Dub, where they did some strange thing of giving him a full name by using the literal Japanese and literal Malaysian forms of his only name. "Haku Shiro", which when translated from both Japanese and Malaysian into English actually ends up as "White White". The Naruto-Arena game probably ended up taking the incorrect name from there or from mistaken fans. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Feb 17, 2008 @ 22:40 (UTC)

Shiro is Japanese, not Malaysian anyway, so it's just 2 languages. But anyway, are you sure Haku means white? I have been unable to find a translation that says this. As far as I can find, it means "to put on" and a few other things, but not white.


 * 白. ~SnapperTo 03:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Haku's character is　白, which is normally read as "shiro". The character of his name means white... So yes, his name means white, it is another way to read the kanji of his name. Just like Spirited Away, the "Chi" in Chihiro is read as "Sen" by itself, which is why her name becomes "Sen" after her name is taken by Yubaba. (Also note that the japanese title of Spirited Away is "Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi" literally meaning "Sen and Chihiro's Spiriting Away". 千 -> can be read "Sen" or "Chi"., means 1,000. Same "chi" from "Chidori", lit. 1,000 birds. 白　-> Can be read as "shiro" or "haku". There are also more readings... such as "Byaku" (only when combined with other kanji.) Such as with "Byakugan" 白眼, literally "white eye"

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Maybe we can add the abilities, like every other good character... Shikamaru1994 22:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Shikamaru1994

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Snapper2 I know your Experienced but please tell me why you keep deleting info of Haku's page.--Inferuno Ryuu 18:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Because splitting up an already small section into additional smaller sections is frowned upon. My version combines the small sections together, but Mr. IP has mad love for the version with four different headings. ~SnapperTo 18:52, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems like there is a revert war going on.--Inferuno Ryuu 15:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not anymore, now they have to use the talk page. Jacce 15:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know why it's happening as I know I reverted Snapper2 edits but after he explained it I stopped.--Inferuno Ryuu 15:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Natures
In the infobox, could somebody please remove the "(secondary)" and "(main)" annotations? --ShounenSuki (talk 13:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Jacce 13:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Categorize
I've recently been doing a lot of categorizing today and I came across Haku's page...can someone please add this to the list of categories Haku belongs too.

Thank you.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 16:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Pictures
The part that talked about his appearance is rather vague, and I know most people know about Haku already, but what about the people who don't? I was thinking that maybe there should be a picture of him when he was wearing the pink thing (I can't remember what it was called) to show when he has a "slightly...more feminine appearance". Either that, or talk about the fact that he can wear pink and not feel embarrassed like the rest of the male kind. --Mjka (talk) 16:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ice Spikes
in the flash back when Haku killed his father, they showed the house being impaled by large icicles... which i think it's like the ice style/release version of Earth Release: Rock Pillars Rising... can we make a page for that attack?? 76.197.250.27 (talk) 07:31, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Affiliation
"Haku was born in a small, snowy village in the Land of Water"...not Kiri. And both his hitai-ate and mask were stolen... I think this need to be changed. --Blaublau94 (talk) 22:58, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The databook gives his affiliation as Kirigakure and Haku was associated with Zabuza, a missing-nin from Kiri and the leader of a tiny rebellious faction that wanted to take over the village. Haku was loyal to Zabuza, who in turn considered himself loyal to (his version of) Kirigakure. --ShounenSuki (talk 08:28, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Haku is either a girl or a crossdresser
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/45984461/4 s/he is wearing lipstick--Cmcwiki (talk) 21:05, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * He has made it very clear that he is a guy, even though he sometimes wear clothes that would be more appropriate for a female. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 21:22, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah but why is s/he wearing lipstick--Cmcwiki (talk) 21:43, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it brings out his eyes? —ShounenSuki (talk 21:48, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why wouldn't he? ZeroSD (talk) 12:49, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Its the drawers fault.
 * How can the "drawer" be at fault? it's his creation. --Cerez365 (talk) 13:51, December 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its the drawers fault since he doesn't seem to understand that Haku is a male.Shinobi Master (talk) 16:17, December 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Obviously the man who created the character doesn't understand he made him male... There is a very good explanation behind Haku's femininity. One that's firmly rooted in Japanese (popular) culture. —ShounenSuki (talk 16:28, December 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * It may be possible that he only tells Naruto that he is a boy, there is nothing in the series that really confirms this. Though Zabuza may likewise treat 'him' and address 'him' as a male, though this may in part be custom in the Mist village for one who serves as a personal shinobi for a well established nin such as Zabuza.  It is never explicitly stated, though she may have chosen to renounce her own femininity- her womanhood philosophically being a part of the freewill she voluntarily gives up in her gesture of loyalty towards Zabuza.

"Yuki Clan"
I know Haku's clan now has a name, but... Does this mean that we should update his name as Haku Yuki, or do we follow Kimimaro and Tsunade's examples and wait until canonical confirmation as to whether they have last names or not?--– Mewshuji, Unofficial Nitpick of the Wiki 07:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wait. Nagato did not become "Nagato Uzumaki" just because of what Madara said. ~SnapperTo 10:01, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reguardless of what they go by, it is their last name. You cant have a different last name than your clan members in this world, So that being said yes tsunade's last name is Senju, and i really dont give a f*** of what the major contributors think. But shhhhhhhhhh that might tick them off since it hurts their ego that i prove them wrong.
 * But to keep things simple and civil, its just worth a mention since it will cause an uproar based on their opinions. Biased people suck :( 204.112.202.20 (talk) 10:13, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Says the person whose ego is apparently dependent on them being correct...
 * The Yuki bloodline is passed down to Haku through his mother. Haku would take his father's last name. Further, as the Yuki are infamous in the Land of Water and Haku's mother was trying to hide their identities, there is zero logic to them using "Yuki" as a surname. ~SnapperTo 10:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * You are correct that using their surnames in time when everyone hates them is suicide, but for us, the readers, it doesnt matter. But you are right that Haku's mother could took the surname of her husband, and Haku took this surname as well. With Tsunade, even she is Hasrirama Senju's granddaughter, her mother would marry someone and took his surname, and so her surname isnt here said as Senju. But Kimimaro? Why he dont has his surname "Kaguya"? He was evidently a member of Kaguya clan, and as man he dont takes surname of his wife, which he didnt even had, when he was young kid when he joined Orochimaru. Why he didnt has it? VolteMetalic (talk) 21:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * This isn't about Kimimaro. And databooks don't list his name as Kimimaro Kaguya. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:14, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Images
I have edited the images I uploaded to follow the image policy. I will now make add these images to this article. If someone reverts theses changes, I ask that you please explain the reason for doing so as I am still very new here. Thank You.


 * You put him with a mask in the infobox. He only used the mask to conceal his identity when fighting along Zabuza, we saw his face in the first chapter he appeared. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:02, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was my understanding, thanks to SnapperTo, that :"Main images are ideally of characters when they are most recognizable". More of Haku was seen with his make on than off.


 * Recent chapters have tipped that scale.
 * And besides, I was referring to the clothes, not the mask; he is seen more with hunter-nin clothing than with herb-picking clothing. ~SnapperTo 03:05, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, the manga, I see. However, I do not believe that Haku would be less recognizable with the mask on.(And Snapper2 I am aware that you were referring to the clothes, I was simply taking making a point).But would it be fair to assume that main images of characters are preferably of how they first appeared, as in the case of Madara Uchiha? And, if this is the case, this is the reason it would be better to have an image of Haku without the mask? Thank you again for taking the time to listen.


 * "How they first appeared" is only important when there's more than one "when they are most recognizable". Naruto, for example, is equally recognizable in his Part I and Part II outfits, so priority is given to his Part I outfit. Although Haku is first seen wearing a mask, an image of him without one on is much more common and useful. If he were like Kakashi or Madara where he wears a mask for 99% of his appearances, then an image of him masked would be preferred. ~SnapperTo 03:59, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was confused for a moment when I read your comment, SnapperTo ,until I reviewed the episodes and manga for myself and found that Haku was, contrary to the reason given for reverting the image, masked when he first appeared. Since Haku is equally recognizable with his mask on or off, am I correct in assuming an image with the mask off is 'more useful' as it actually depicts his face?

Inspiration
Could Haku be possibly taken from the Japanese legend of the Yuki-onna because of his beautiful feminine appearance, dark hair, pale skin, control over ice, and being from the Yuki Clan? Just wondering if it could be an ineresting fact in trivia. --Yamanaka Ino (talk) 00:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Another Ice Technique?
Is it possible that Haku has another, Ice technique he used in episode 18 of the anime, manga chapter 30 pg. 12-13? It seems like he uses a single handsign to move at fast enough speeds to catch up to Kakashi and Zabuza and then uses Crystal Ice Mirrors in order to destroy the summoning scroll and take the hit in time. It may simply be a variation of the Body Flicker Technique but the added one-handed hand sign makes it unique to Haku. Would this warrant its own article or a mention in the Body Flicker technique page?

People often use one-handed seals to activate the BFT, usually the Seal of Confrontation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:51, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I assumed the multiple seals was unique for Haku's techniques (excluding guren)