Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170904204034/@comment-33308438-20171011164742

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Ok, finally someone reasonable, so you're saying swamp could drown SusanoO? But what you're forgetting is Sasuke can use kagutsuchi to throw projectiles or use AMA directly, and Jiraiya wouldnt be able to attack because of the scorching pain. And the eagle will levitate him from the ground like it did in danzo fight. How will Jiraiya be in pain? Don't see your logic. Also Amaterasu causes eyes to bleed jiraiya could easily get out of sight like sasuke did against Itachi. Eagle can't do any thing if Sasuke is stuck in Bog and if he summons it Jiraiya would just kill it with Gamabunta or some one. Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Rasengan can only overpower chidori, not the variations since chidori has been stated to be a physical attack which can be touched not just chakra ninjutsu. This was stated by kakashi. Nobody needs to touch chidori. Especially if one has bigger rasengan in hand. And nothing like that was actually said by kakashi. But I will humor you how is kakashi himself able to use the jutsu than? Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: When Ama burns heavily if the hachibi couldnt tolerate the pain, no way in hell jiraiya would survive that. Go home and try burning your hair. I am pretty sure your head won't burn as long as you have hair. Same here and jiraiya can send them back with Needle Jizo or seal it. Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Even if jiraiya uses needle jizo, Sasuke would avoid it, with his speed and appear in the back of jiraiya and pierce him with chidori katana stunning his movements by electrocuting him. Very unlikely. Its not about speed but also about number. They would be too many and it also give Jiraiya's other partners in fight to land devastating blows with Fire/Water/Wind releases. Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: There was no reason for him to not go full speed since he was planning to kill Sasuke. Chidori amplified nerve transmission along with sharingan pre-cog Sasuke = A reaction. What abot testing opponent capability blah blah. Also very next panel even that C guy states that he's amping up more chakra.This pretty much debunks your argument. Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Which jiraiya can never catch up to. Jiraiya is so slow, I cannot even picture a scenario where Sasuke cannot speedblitz him , even if he uses kebari senbon , Sasuke can kill him from the back. Pain could see the rasengan, so no he would've reacted if he could. He couldnt react. Excuse me Jiraiya is not slow. DB puts Jiriaya faster than Sasuke. Where your proof Jiraiya is slower than Sauske? Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Is it stated anywhere that the hair can pierce chakra points?Even if its so the range of chidori beam is 5 metres, it'll simply pierce him from a distance not mention Sasuke can keep running. Chidori Vs Rasengan remember? Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Sasuke can simply evade the swamp and speedblitz jiraiya considering he could pierce A with chidori, jiraiya's bot even close. Well If you are using such vague arguments, Let me say something similar. Minato and Jiraiya used to fight a lot as training, Jiraiya is faster than Sasuke in this respect since he would often corner him(minato) during his training... Lmao DB puts jiraiya above Sasuke?lol someone who was struggling against 3 paths.

Lmao and using more chakra loool, you know that raikage is using shunshin no jutsu? It's not like he is using it every single second, he amps it when its necessary to use the jutsu. When he is planning to speed up he amps, when he fighting normally , he doesnt use shunshin.

Sasuke's eyesight was also weakening so he couldnt aim correctly and A dodged the blood. So Sasuke can easily look down and bleed, then look up. He can keep staring at jiraiya and it'll burn down all his scalp, that is if he can put the hair out in time , considering amaterasu converges , not a projectile.

Lmao toads can take care of SusanoO? You really believe that? Something as durable that Oodama rasengan couldnt penetrate.

And what is that swamps range exactly?Not to mention, Sasuke can see the chakra building up when he is going to use techniques so he'll take precaution and not to mention he can sit on top of the eagle and drop arrows from above.

If jiraiya was half as fast as Sasuke, he wouldnt have had trouble dealing with just 3 paths. Considering none of the more fearsome paths didnt fight there.

Amaterasu has burned hachibi which tanked lava so very easy for it to burn the hair in an instant get completely incinerate jiraiya.

Chidori is a physical attack not ninjutsu as kakashi said "He can not only repel ninjutsu, but even physical attacks?" in his fight with deva so your argument is flawed.

Jiraiya wont touch chidori senbon or chidori spear with rasengan.

You're acting like you know everything yet you're completely ignorant of the fact that the hawk can fly and he can shoot arrows from above and also amaterasu from there. Please get your facts right.

Ninja@ I should admit when I'm proven wrong?When was I ever proven wrong? He didnt fight all the kage at one, I ckearly said but he continously fought for long periods and wasnt exactly running away like you make it to be. Not to mention if Sasuoe used anaterasu on gaara, onoki and mei's faces they would've been goners. Not to mention, they wont evading SusanoO arrow except maybe gaara would tank it.

Oro stopped Sasuke from using it, thats the proof he can use kirin without prep. Keep denying it, but the fact wont change. He clearly raised his hand to the sky. Even if he needs prep(assumption) as you say, just shooting some fireballs in the sky or using amaterasu to change the temperature isnt a very big deal as he'll be flying in the sky while he's prepping kirin.

A used his full speed as he amps whenever he charges and Cee said it the first time he brought out his raiton armour. So he was using full speed after bringing the armor out everytime. No need to reduce as he had no feelings for Sasuke, he was going to kill him as he stated , he risked hus arm to kill him.

Toad stomach isnt stronger than kabuto's defense, since even he dodged it , not to mention he has juugo's cells and even suigetsu's water release still thiught he should dodge it with all that durability.

Sasuke was also surprised when kabuto dodged it, you could see the shock in his face , which means even A cannot dodge that , since Sasuke has fought A and even then he was so shocked at someone dodging his arrow. Kabuto said he had the nature on his side as explanation, so Sasuke was right about nobody actually dodging it with bare speed.

Namikaze@ lmao testing the opponent, your blah blah logic, A was going to kill Sasuke you know?Yeah even though he knew about MS AND AMATERASU he was still going to test his abilities? Nice reach lol.

Gave you every counter for jiraiya's moves above. Jiraiya sure aint faster than Sasuke, I dont know where you got that shit from.