Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181006185835

@Ninja of War

The reason I see it as a speed feat is that although itachi's targets were immobile, Kishimoto has shown us hints that the blade is really fast.

Nagato and orochimaru aren't known for reflexes, but nagato isn't exactly average either. he reacted to kcm naruto's chakra arm rasengan and other highly fast attacks, and orochimaru has good reaction feats too. My point about the totsuka blade is that it's faster than orochimaru's ability to react, and by extension konan and kimimaro who have not shown reaction feats that would convince me they would do better than orochimaru. Factor in the fact that itachi use's diversions when he fights and I'm sold on the ability for the blade to tag these specific opponents.

So now that I have re clarified my argument, your points will be addressed

1) I would agree with you except for the fact that kishimoto puts in a question mark at the end of orochimaru's statement. That question mark doesn't belong there because orochimaru was making a statement, not a question. The question mark therefore is the platform for my argument, a question mark in that context is used to indicate surprise. he was clearly surprised by being stabbed out of nowhere. His surprise is what tells me it's a speed feat, he literally got stabbed in between words. he only laughed it off afterward, after he already got blitzed. so, why does orochimaru's foot speed matter if he can't react to the blade in the first place? you have to react before you can run.

2)Again, similiar scenario. Why people focus on Nagato's mobility is beyond me. He was never known for his mobility. No one ever regarded him as an overwhelming speedster. Nagato was in control by kabuto, so he was active in the fight. He was doing kabuto's bidding. It's been shown that when a user is under control they do kabuto's absolute bidding. Nagato didn't cast that chibaku tensei because he was being friendly. He was simply awaiting itachi's next move, but it was too bad he got blitzed before he could do anything about it. My point here is, Nagato's biggest selling point is preta path and shinra tensei. Those two jutsu are by far his most annoying defensive jutsu, and they are also the fastest to activate, all they require is a mental reaction, a thought, a reflex. That's all. And he couldn't use either jutsu to defend himself. that constitutes a clear speed feat in my book. That manga panel shows it all. Either way you twist it, he could see the blade and he simply couldn't react. Kabuto lost control over nagato AFTER nagato was stabbed.