User talk:Simant

Re: Plies
The bulleted lines don't stick out much. ~SnapperTo 05:35, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * You could do something with Naruto Uzumaki/Filler Arc. ~SnapperTo 17:26, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Move it to Naruto: Original arcs? Then you'd treat it like all the other arc articles. ~SnapperTo 17:57, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Since the paths are using the jutsu template, that's the only way to get their jutsu to show up in their infobox. ~SnapperTo 05:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Date columns should ideally be wide enough so that there's no line break. Other than that I have no preference. ~SnapperTo

Advanced templates
*cough* Simant, could you break down what this is all about. I can barely understand bad programming, but I have a strong feeling you are doing something horribly horribly wrong. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:00 (UTC)
 * A self closed  tag can be used as a whitespace barrier. If you place it in between the content and the start or end of a parserfunction parameter it can act as a barrier that will prevent the whitespace in between itself and the content. In essence  will retain the space before "only". Also, it is unnecessary to place a #switch block inside of a #ifeq, what you did could have been handled using the #switch itself. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:25 (UTC)
 * We could switch over to a set of from-to fields in the form instead of a list of chapter numbers if you're sure we don't have anything that skips chapters or includes older chapters or whatever. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:26 (UTC)
 * I'm working right now, can't do something like that right now. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:32 (UTC)

Ask templates are screwy, you can't pass manual parameters to it, the template only gets the values of properties you ask for using the ? in the later part of the #ask. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 23, 2009 @ 00:28 (UTC)

Re: Block
Blocked. Jacce | Talk 12:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

According to our blocking rules, he/she has been warned. If it doesn't help, it will be blocking. Jacce | Talk 17:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 15:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. And I added a protection on the said pages to. Jacce | Talk 19:41, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 13:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

It became a temporary block. Jacce | Talk 15:17, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 08:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 08:28, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 05:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 06:14, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 06:04, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 22:21, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 08:06, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Just to point out
Lover is a valid family tree value in this series, as Minato and Kushina weren't married (based off their last names) and yet we have Naruto. Just pointing that out when you are finalizing values.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:59, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Family Tree
I dunno. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 26, 2009 @ 23:11 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the |sort= property in #ask that can sort by a property in the query. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 01:33 (UTC)
 * ^_^ You might want to actually look at the source code for that extension. It's a old (MW 1.7 old, right after they dropped PHP4 ugh) ugly extension that uses a tag (tags are bad for template coding), and produces lists, NOT simply resorting of a list in a flexible way. See if you can do a proper |sort=. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:02 (UTC)
 * As far as I can comprehend with a beating head, "erm, sure". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:10 (UTC)
 * What are you even trying to sort that can't be done with the |sort= parameter? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:05 (UTC)
 * If you have multiple separate queries I have no problem with separate subsections. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:19 (UTC)
 * @_@, I dunno, maybe I'll deal with this later when I'm not ill. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 30, 2009 @ 00:01 (UTC)

Re: Twin Rasengan
The translation I gave was hypothetical, based on my knowledge of Japanese and Kishimoto-sensei's naming conventions. The translation given on the Twin Rasengan page is... awkward at best. I don't know how the person who put it in got that name, it seems to be from one of the films or games, none of which I've seen or played, respectively.

In my opinion, the Twin Rasengan page should be merged with the Rasenrengan page, I see hardly any difference. I also think the Japanese given on the Twin Rasengan page is fancruft, made up by someone with just enough knowledge of Japanese to use an on-line dictionary.

Then again, since I don't know the films, nor the games, I cannot really say anything conclusive. I've heard weirder names from those. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image rationale
If the pic has a rationale, it is most likely that the up loader just made a mistake, so I suggest that you fix the mistakes so the pic gets the right info. If you can't fix it for some reason, like if the manga/anime isn't available at the moment, you could put a {{delete|reason: wrong info in rationale or something similar at the top, and just wait for an other user to fix it. Jacce | Talk 15:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re: File name move
Done ^^ --ShounenSuki (talk 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ask queries
I don't believe ! was disabled, no reason for that I know of. ~ is probably not enabled anyways. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 5, 2009 @ 22:22 (UTC)

Re: Help
I'm really not the right person to ask for help with these kinds of things. If I can't copy something that I know works or figure it out through trial and error, then it's beyond me. That said, I've been fiddling. Compare the following:


 * +Manga, +Anime


 * +Manga, -Anime


 * -Manga, +Anime


 * -Manga, -Anime

If semantics worked the way we think it should, Adamantine Prison Wall would only be present in the first query. Instead, it is listed in all four. Based on these results, using ! will only exclude things with one value. Since Protection of the Eight Trigrams is tagged as Anime and Game, you want a query that excludes two values (something like |Game ). I couldn't find anything that does that at Help:Semantic search, so the only solution I can offer is to remove the Game tag. ~SnapperTo 04:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * ! works, just not when there are two values for one parameter. It gets confused if there's more than one. ~SnapperTo 00:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Images
Personally, they are pure *$&@ in my honest opinion. I would have removed them myself if I wasn't already in the position I am in (bad cop of the Wiki). Personally if you want to remove them and site that they are terrible I won't stop you.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:08, November 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dude, don't worry. Soon I will download all Shippuuden episodes and will review the characters, jutsus, location and etc. His pictures will be replaced no matter what. :) And soon they will be deleted. I just don't have big hard disk and may be I should delete Naruto episodes first.--Donatelo (talk) 20:53, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * I never thought about CD's, but 36,2GB - this is 10 DVD(4GB). LOL--Donatelo (talk) 21:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rationales
I guess not including the episode number doesn't make it invalid, but it doesn't make it a good rationale. Those should really be fixed to have proper information of where the image came from. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 19, 2009 @ 23:09 (UTC)

Chime in here
Here. I like you enough to handle this. (I am extremely biased as I hate Newthx2u with a passion only matched by my hatred for CoolTamerBoy.)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:28, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Image Request
I uploaded the building - File:The Building for The Academy Teaching Exam.JPG. But don't know in which section at Ninja Academy to put it. At Ninja Academy it is not mention anything about Teaching Exam and I thing that it should be made new section or an new article. In the same episode there are few more names whose past this exam and we should write them. About the building we can describe what is inside based on what we saw in the episode. So I think a new article is more appropriate for this situation.--Donatelo (talk) 08:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. But what should be the name? Academy Teaching? Teaching Academy? This is complicated. In Chunin is said "Some of them, like Iruka Umino and Mizuki, function as teachers" so it may be better to put a new rank - Teacher - and there it should be explain what is teacher, how you become teacher, what are you doing like teacher(for example - I saw that Iruka i Mizuki wear chunin cloths when they took the academy teaching exam - so you can become teacher after you become chunin). And the names of the teachers - Umino Iruka, Mizuki, Midori Kusaha, Fuumi Yutaka, Suzume Namida or something like that - these names are shown at the board in episode 145. And Mizuki is not shown to pass this exam or he is in the bottom - candidate. So it is complicated. :) About the rank - I don't know if this is rank, but can't be anything else. Or may be this is part of the Chunin rank and all of this should be written in Chunin but teaching exam is not chunin exam. So many possibilities. :)--Donatelo (talk) 18:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * I added the two pictures you requested. Don't know how I missed them and didn't see them. What about "The Building for The Academy Teaching Exam"? I still have the picture. When you decide what to do with the article tell me to put it.--Donatelo (talk) 14:30, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

OVA Debuts
Hmm, I dunno. In a way OVA only characters don't even have a debut, they're just part of an OVA. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 24, 2009 @ 17:57 (UTC)

Re: Clans
All information I can find is focussed on the four noble clans of Konoha: the Uchiha, the Hyūga, the Akimichi, and the Aburame. I couldn't find any general information about shinobi clans and families. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:55, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bots
My apologies for that. I can't actually see well what the bot changes, so things like that can slip through. I still have to find out how to work the bot properly ^^

I'll undo any bad edits I did with the bot. Good luck testing the infobox. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:06, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Orochimaru
Orochimaru used the Fireball Jutsu in episode 29 Thunderbender18 (talk) 06:07, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

question
why the infromation about being the current longest jutsu name(Hokage 60 year old technique...)was deleted.Is there some kind of policy? Just wondering... Ttogafer (talk) 20:12, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I totally forgot about Japanese. Thanks for the explanation.Ttogafer (talk) 20:27, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Anbu Mask
One instance isn't enough to claim it is usually the case. It could have been part of Kabuto's disguise.

The mask also didn't have any hair attached to it in the manga, nor did any of the other ANBU masks I could find. --ShounenSuki (talk 02:49, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: First Hokage Necklace
I have a feeling you might be watching a badly translated version of episode 91, actually...

From chapter 159:

It's easy to mistranslates this as there being two in the world, but at least in the manga it says there is only one. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:59, December 6, 2009 (UTC)