Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-28861328-20140618060932/@comment-3568954-20140618081132

MangekyoSasuke wrote: I never said they weren't related. Example: let's say Asura has cousin X from his uncle that he has a good relationship with. They hang out, introduce their children to each other. This continues on into further generations. The clans are asked, "how do you know each other?" They respond, "oh, were distantly related." And its true. Because Great great grandfather Asura is cousins with X. Or 3x great grandfather is brother of Hamura.

Also, I just want it known that I'm not at all trying to prove that the Uzumaki clan is descended from Hamura. I merely find the theory equally as valid as them being descended from Hagoromo, and that you have no grounds to say otherwise. For one, if your theory is true, then why is Naruto NOT descended from Hashirama? THAT makes no logical sense. Why don't you do some research on reincarnation beliefs and then try and tell me something like that.

Also, and correct me if I'm wrong, TTF, but you seem to be basing your idea of "clan relations" on some type of formally made structure of how families work. Example: someone might call their half-sister "sister" instead. But the legal/traditional term is half-sister. And if you are doing what I think you're doing, I'm surprised by now you haven't realized that Kishimoto is a layman. Meaning he has a layman's knowledge of how a lot of things work, and that it might not coincide with what actually is. An example of which would be genetics. And how kekkei genkai as they are in Naruto wouldn't work in real life. So if you are basing it on some type of formal structure, I suggest you rethink that from the point of view of what an average person knows.

i will first start off and say this. they are not actually the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura. they are the successors which is not the same thing black zetsu refereed to them as transmigrants. also Black zetsu confirmed that Naruto has to be a decedent of Ashura black zetsu said Indra and Uchiha Ashura and senju. he said that he essentialy egged Indra on and then continued to Egg on Indra and Ashura's Transmigrants(decedents who inherited their chakra) he attempted to get them to awaken the Rinnegan but he finally was capable of getting Madara to awaken the Rinnegan this in itself Proves that the uzumaki clan are senju offshoot not only that but Obit himself(when he was going as madara) stated that Nagato had the power of the senju(which can only happen if nagato is of senju DNA via offshoot