Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26104757-20170619053257/@comment-27924662-20170705070426

Mr. Grave wrote: Punching? You think she's gonna stop at punching? Hidan was immobilized by Asuma's chakra blades and required Kakuzu's assistance to be brought back together. Plus, the Thousand-Armed Murder depends on the skill of the user, and Chiriku was pretty much semi-fodder so stop pretending it's a one-shot technique. If Tsunade can get a hold of Hidan, which she will, she could most likely tear him in half or keep him occupied while one of Chiyo's puppets dices him. And really, it's not a matter of taijutsu. I'd argue that Tsunade is weaker in taijutsu than Kakashi, but here's the thing - she doesn't need to be on par with them if she activates Hundred Healings. She could shrug off any injury caused by Kakuzu AND just wait for an opening. If she times a chakra-enhanced attack right, she could easily take out two of Kakuzu's hearts in one swoop. You are Forgetting Few things here: 1) Punch argument which I made was to indicate Hidan's pain resistance. In his recruitment test Kakuzu punched through his heart and Hidan barely flinched instead he completed the ritual and took kakuzu 's mask down(one of them). 2) You can't argue with the fact that Asuma's Chakra blades have better chance of cutting him down, Tsunade's punches at best would break his bones and in no way it's gonna matter to Hidan(see argument above). 3) Chance of Tsunade punching is lesser than Hidan using his extended blade to get the blood consuming it and eventually killing her. It's more obvious Hidan comes on top considering his speed>Tsunade's speed. 4)My argument about the Mask: Number 1: Kakuzu's Mask by themselves are strong, His lightning Mask cancelled Kakashi's Raikiri. I don't see Tsunade functioning at her best after getting hit by such attack Let alone continue her barrages. Number 2: Rasengan Barely Made drills through tree-trunks(Naruto's training). Wind Release: Pressure Damage completely drilled through trees during Duos fight with Kakashi who barely made it by dodging those attacks. Kabuto was disabled with single rasengan despite superior healing power, So what chance do you think Tsunade would have after getting hit by barrage of such attack. Number 3:Strange Mask Exploding Flame I would leave at this technique's vastness and destructive power. They are more than enough to take out chiyo's puppet. The Expanse of jutsu Would most certainly burn all her puppets before she can disable Hidan. Mr. Grave wrote: There won't be any combination attack if she takes out one of them early on. And it's not like Tsunade's gonna go out on her own either (although I'd argue she could take them out on her own, high difficulty). She has Chiyo who's a natural at cooperation. We saw her work flawlessly alongside Part 1 Sakura, whom she hadn't met before. I bet she and Tsunade could do the same, especially given Tsunade is light years ahead of Part 1 Sakura. Chiyo came in part-2(Naruto Shippuden). Why are you talking about part-1 sakura? Plus saying light years is too much considering the fact that Sakura mastered Tsunade's prominent technique within few months later. It's more likely that She was close by... Mr. Grave wrote: I disagree. Chiyo's puppets are a factor considering she took out a good chunk of Sasori's puppets with her Chikamatsu Collection and her skill with parent puppets enabled her to engage Sasori's Third Kazekage puppet. Yes, they could be taken out by Kakuzu's hearts which specialize in long range attack, but at the same time dispatching the hearts would leave Kakuzu susceptible to Tsunade's attacks. Plus, three of her puppets can use the Three Jewels Suction technique, one of them can use long range cables and another one can be used for sealing. I have no idea how you can consider these as non-factor. I agree without doubt, Chiyo defeating Sasori's collection was pretty impressive. And I agree that she could take on Hidan easily. But Kakuzu is her Hard counter. His Strange Mask Exploding Flame Would Destroy all her puppets before she even starts to fight considering that Kakashi barely protected his team with water release. Chiyo's skill won't be able to help much considering The Expanse of the technique is wider than forest(at best even if she saves few they all would be gone after few barrages of that attack)