Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-31099706-20181002170640

LoneNinja wrote: @Blaze

Orochimaru's "Immortality" wasn't universal until he killed Hiruzen. So no. If I remember right, Hiruzen discovered Oro's experimentation on Immortality with a forbidden long ago. Also Jiraya did spy on Orochimaru.