Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170130214631/@comment-734582-20170131072646

AsianReaper wrote: Also, remember that Jiraiya was able to take down what, 3 pains? And was stated to have been able to win if he knew Pain's secret. Kakashi was struggling against 2. A bit of context on that: I think it's fairly clear that the Deva Path was the strongest of the 6. Ashura is probably the second strongest.

After all, Konohameru, a genin, took down a Path as well, and he's clearly not as strong as Kakashi. But he took it down with one Rasengan, whereas Ashura survived a Chidori and way more and lived (well, sort-of lived).

That being said, i think Jiraiya would be a formidable foe and i don't think Kakashi has got what it takes...yet. I'd argue that his Hokage version could take down Jiraiya -no more weaknesses while having almost maximum strength.

Kamui clearly takes longer the bigger the object you want to transport (IE the nail and the rocket) and so it's mostly a support ability here.