Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-27924662-20170524131723

Thekillman wrote: When his family shows up after stoneskipping, Madara defuses the situation by saying Hashirama was stronger. Nothing really points to this being true. And if you making this out to be true than what about madara's conviction about killing hashirama which resulted in Madara awakening Sharingan?? Are you saying Madara doesn't stays true to his conviction. That would just be contradiction to his sharingan awakening. Thekillman wrote: The second major fight we see is when Izuna died, which causes Madara to retreat to grieve. OHO so you forgot that madara came-back with the one and only PS and still got defeated at the end of the day. Thekillman wrote: The last fight, Madara survived via Izanagi. Had he chosen so he could've used it to kill Hashirama. But it wasn't the plan, since he had what he needed and wanted to be forgotten by the world. Could he? Madara barely had the chakra to use sharingan. A preactivated Izanagi saved his ass despite him having used KURAMA in that fight and still he didn't win. . And for argument sake we consider that madara could have won, why didn't he do it? Afterall he could have easily remodeled the village to his INFNITE TSUKUYOMI dream rather than wait for years to actually do it. Thekillman wrote: The rest is just arbirary derivation. Madara caused the Five Kage to fear him, caused Onoki to fear him despite Onoki defeating Sasuke with one technique with ease. EMS Sasuke was already busy surpassing Itachi. He only had EMS for a few hours which really prevents further analysis of the extent of his power. OHO I forgot. Hashirama defeated the very madara who scared the 5 kage.And that is despite madara having both wood release and rinnegan And the 5 kages were only scared because they didn't had much chakra left to fight with when madara showed them the PS.