Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24347194-20150211225344/@comment-142748-20150410193038

Hilary Judgeking wrote: Legendary Super Saiya-Jin and SuperSaiyaMan, Itachi is extremely fast and the more versatile opponent. Minato is a primarily close combat fighter, he can cover distances quickly but has no jutsu that hit very far. Itachi does specialise in long ranged jutsu, nonetheless he is very capable in close combat. He was capable of fighting toe to toe with Naruto in his nine tale chakra mode, who was as fast as Minato in that form. Itachi was also fast enough to keep up with Shisui and match Sasuke's Lightning flash blade creation. Finally Itachi doesn't just have sharingan genjutsu, he has other forms like ephemeral. Therefore as I said before despite Minato's immense speed Itachi still has the reaction time and speed to cast genjutsu on him. Itachi is very fast, but his speed is on Post-Timeskip Kakashi's tier. It didn't change at all even as a Edo Tensei. In fact he got blitzed by Sage Mode Kabuto who was tiers slower than Minato. And being as fast or a tiny bit slower than Shisui doesn't make Itachi Minato's speed at all.

And Itachi didn't 'match' KCM Naruto's speed. Hell, Itachi attacked first, Naruto met his attack and carried on a conversation. At no point in that encounter at all Itachi had to deal with Naruto's speed. So that's not even a feat you can use.

Itachi doesn't specialize in Long or Short Range jutsu, at best he's mid-range specialist since it fits his fighting style. It still doesn't help at all against Minato who can literally dance around everything, including genjutsu.

As I explained before, Ukatata is useless in this match. If Post-Timeskip Naruto could resist it, Minato, having greater intelligence and chakra control, would break it instantly.

Hilary Judgeking wrote: SuperSaiyaMan wrote: Genjutsu is useless on a shinobi of Minato's level, being how he is a top tier and went eye to eye with a stronger genjutsu Sharingan user and won and said stronger genjutsu user's only option was a battle of speed. I think you're underestimating the power of genjutsu in general. Minato has never demonstrated any skill in dispelling genjutsu or genjutsu altogether. No matter a shinobi's 'level' if they have no skill in genjutsu how can they hope to overcome it? Jiraiya was an extremely high level shinobi yet had little skill in genjutsu. Itachi is also a far superior genjutsu user than Obito, he has tsukuyomi and has performed more higher ranking genjutsu. If someone suggested a way for Minato to counter any of Itachi's genjutsu I would call the match a close win for either of the two. Otherwise Itachi wins. Obito controlled a Perfect Jinchuriki for years if not decades using genjutsu, and by Ao's own admission it was comparable to Kotoamatsukami. Itachi attempted to genjutsu Killer B, a perfect Jinchuriki...and failed miserably since it was broken nigh instantly. yet Obito's only, and I mean ONLY option against Minato was beating him in the battle of speed, he wrote off Genjutsu working.

Jiraiya has no talent in genjutsu, but he has, as he explained, all the qualifications to break most genjutsu thrown against him (methods he taught to Naruto, and would have taught to Minato). It takes high chakra control and intelligence to break genjutsu, two qualifications Minato meets.