Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-1512913-20150221101637/@comment-26302001-20150304125124

With Hagoromo's chakra gift yeah duh, but lets talk about Pain since people don't like to use their brains. He killed Jiraiya, then went to Konoha and killed Kakashi, blew up the village, fought Naruto and pretty much won until the nine-tails went wild, fought it off and used Chikabu Tensei on it, when it broke out of that he said he was going to make one even bigger. Mind you he was on his death bed, low on chakra and a freakin' emaciated skeleton with skin. Then add the fact that later in the series as an Edo Tensei(which btw is weaker than their living forms as is confirmed by Madara) he was fighting Killer Bee, Kurama Chakra Mode Naruto and Itachi and it took the Sword of Totsuka to seal him to beat him after he got revitalized(he still had limited mobility as Kabuto confirmed himself) then you add in the fact Kabuto also confirmed that Nagato with limited mobility was right under Madara.. Nagato with full health and full mobility would absolutely murder Sasuke and Naruto if they did not have Hagoromo's chakra gifted to them. Besides Sasuke had to use Rinnegan Genjutsu on the tailed beasts to even put them in the Chibaku Tensei and even then the yang half of the 9 tails was resisting it. They were also smaller Chibaku Tensei's than the one Pain used on Naruto/Kurama originally and even in his near death state he was about to make an even bigger one. Nagato at full health and full mobility is definitely one of the strongest period, stronger than Tobirama and Minato for sure.