Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-6769189-20171014113126

Talent=/=power. Sasuke and Neji were signifcantly more talented than Naruto and he beat one and matched the other. Kakashi who was considered a genius actually has less wins on Guy. Talent correlates to ones avility to learn quickly, not their strength or over all potential. Jiraiya was considered the loser of his squad.

It was mutually agreed that the decoy would die. No one thought they would be beating their persuers.

He may have heard stories but he was also alive to witness Hashirama and his power. If Madara was just below Hashirama in terms of power then Hashirama greatly outclassed anyone else who was alive at the same time as him.

If Oro knew so much about about Enma he would have dodged as opposed to block. The translation i read was a double exclamation point but either way surprised isnt always caused by speed. In the time it took Enma to transform Hashi and Tobirama ran the length of the pole and kicked Hiruzen in the face. No speed feat here.

He was referring to dealing with 5 different nature transformations at the same time. Hashirama was busy with Madara, so yes Hiruzen was the only one who could deal with that because Minato and Tobirama are evasive fighters. That situation with the Gedo was specifically tailored to Hiruzens tool set.