Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-46817411-20200920052531

The Chicken Sin of Stupidity wrote: JamesSenpai wrote: @The Chicken Sin of Stupidity

Your name fits. No, I joke. Lol.

Itachi couldn't even deal with Madara's Puppet Obito, what makes you think he's dealing with Madara? Itachi is at best Kage tier and Madara and Hashirama are leagues above that. The only people capable of fighting these two (excluding Otsutsukis) are legit their fellow carnations Naruto and Sasuke. Anyone who thinks this fight is ending in the span of a few minutes is obviously using fan logic and clearly not familiar with this series. Also, Amaterasu wouldn't touch Madara as easily as you make it when it couldn't even hit Gaara. Furthermore, it takes a million years to consume someone (a bit of an exaggeration), even fodder Samurai survived after being pulled from their armor. Itachi's Chakra reserves are also pretty trash. Itachi is probably the best character in terms of story, so I can understand why fans don't want him to lose, but he's far from being in what I consider God Tier Shinobi where Hashirama and Madara are at the bottom of the barrel of.

Looool.

(PS. Before you get confused. I'm replying to your points in separate sentences):

I don't remember Itachi and Obito ever fighting lol. I remember Obito being fearful of Itachi though. Also remember a 12 year old Itachi telling Obito (Whom he thought was Madara), "It's not a matter of whether I can kill you. I will kill you."

Tbh, other than Obito, even Sage Kabuto beats EMS Madara (Totally expecting you to think this is BS).

My reasoning may not be the best to my "friend" up there^^^^^^^ (Who knows, he may have supporters) but I'm quite familiar to this show. This is a fan vs debate battle bro. No plot armour, no plot nothing. We're imagining these two characters going all out. It's feats vs feats on fan steroids, while still trying to remain realistic. I saw how Madara fought vs Hashirama, and I've seen on numerous occasions how Itachi's fought, (Prime, pseudo, sick, Edo). Itachi just clearly wins having his feats applied in a versus battle with VOTE Madara, and of course yes, in those few minutes you mention for a fact to.

Vast difference between Gaara and Madara. Also. Aiming toward his face, or an exposed part of his body, is a different story.

Can't see how his chakra was low.

It's not that I don't want him to lose. I just can't see him not winning. Never considered him to be god tier either, he just beats Madara.

Your reply to Blood has nothing to do with me but. I can't agree with you there either. In connective novels, Itachi has quite a number of notable feats. One of my favourites is that he's faster than the mature base Sharingan can predict. Jutsu, and travel speed. At so young to. Arguably scaling him to VOTE 1 tail cloak kid Naruto, in travel speed (Sasuke with his 3 tomoe couldn't keep up). 12 year old Itachi man handled adults mind you, and they were considered elites, his father's right hands. He wanted to kill his dad along with them to, in that moment, lol. Considering other prodigies, this might not be something special but it's still something to consider. Yea, they never once fought. Tobi/Obito never once said he was scared of Itachi or even implied that he was and Obito wasn't even phased when Itachi said that.

And yes, that claim about Sage Kabuto beating EMS Madara is BS.

"Itachi just clearly wins having his feats applied in a versus battle with VOTE Madara, and of course yes, in those few minutes you mention for a fact to." There are literally no feats that Itachi has which would even suggest he would be able to take out Madara.

It's not impossible to dodge it or block it as it has been shown in the show plenty of times where people dodge it or block it.

He said his chakra reserves are low which means he doesn't have a lot of chakra to just spam all that stuff in his arsenal.

Travel speed and reaction speed are two separate things btw. Sure, he may have wanted to kill his dad (i don't even remember when he said/implied that. i don't think he did.) but he also states that his dad is the worst possible enemy for him and this is when he already had his Mangekyo Sharingan and it's abilities.