Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150704102606/@comment-9782468-20150709031410

This isn't really a fair fight. Hiruzen is crazy powerful even as an old guy; when he was younger, he openly stated he was the strongest in the Second Hokage's group, and Nidaime didn't object.

Kakashi is very strong. He's copied many techniques, and usually this versatility gets him through battles, not raw power. Honestly I don't see much power difference between Sharingan Kakashi and Hokage Kakashi; He lost the Sharingan, Raikiri, and Kamui, but he also now has more available chakra and Shiden (Purple Lightning or whatever). Kamui is his most significant loss; after all, he's a master of Raiton, I'm sure he knows more than Raikiri.

But even though Kakashi is versatile, Hiruzen is probably either just as versatile or a bit less. He knows every jutsu possible for him to learn to learn in Konoha. He was celebrated as the most powerful Hokage. Even so, this might have been retconned or false. But there's a reason he was celebrated as God of Shinobi.

You've pitted a God of Shinobi against a a regular shinobi, albeit Kage level. I love Kakashi, but I see young Hiruzen destroying him. If it was old Hiruzen maybe, or Fourth World War Kakashi, it'd be more even.

Young Hiruzen > Kakashi any day

Old Hiruzen = Hokage Kakashi MAYBE

Old Hiruzen < Fourth World War Kakashi MAYBE

Young Hiruzen = Double Mangekyo Kakashi MAYBE

That's how I see it anyways