User talk:ShounenSuki

Control freak?
I don't know who Deva 27 is, but it seems like they keep going to pages that other contributors edit, like adding important quotes, slight alterations that make sense, etc., and removes them for seemingly no reason. They aren't 'opinions' or anything; just factual additions and they continue to 'Undo' them. I've had the issue and witnessed them do it to others constantly. Is there anything we can do about this?

Dan
Can you give me Dan's stats, please? Lidor 03:23, March 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanx ^^ Lidor 14:57, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Since I don't really know the way Japanese works...
how is it that Haido is written with all these (海を行う) signs? According to what I know (the thing about a sign per syllable), his name would consist of two signs. ~Hakinu (talk 22:06, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh. Then maybe Haido's page should get changed 8D It says 海を行う in the start of the text, aswell as in the infobox. ~Hakinu (talk 22:16, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) ~Hakinu (talk 00:51, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ebisu
Can you give me Ebisu's stats, please? Lidor 03:07, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanx ^^ Lidor 17:58, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ebizo
Can you give me Ebizo's stats, please? Lidor 18:02, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanx ^^ Lidor 18:15, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rikudo Sennin
do you have the manga page or data book page that says Rikudo Sennin was called the "God of Shinobi"? if so can you give me it? Aexon (talk) 05:25, March 25, 2010 (UTC) EDIT:Dude rikoudou sennin was known as the god of shinobi because he was the man who saved the world from the juubi.A monster that was ten times stronger than the 9 tailed fox it self.even if all the bijjus fought the juubi together they would be killed.The juubi was 100 times larger than the 9 tailed fox.Its huge eye was big enough for the ninetailed fox's body.The rikoudou sennin performed this mortal task in a final battle with the juubi and sealed.He is known as a legend because he sealed the juubi inside himself and saved the world from pure destruction.Also even the akatsuki leader pain stated that his power was barely 10% of the strenght of the rikoudou sennin and was no mattc h for him.Even on his death bed the rikoudou sennin managed to build a chibaku tensei using a fraction of earth to create the moon,

Whose who?
ShounenSuki, can you help me out with something here. Chapter 420 page 15 introduces two minor characters named Oyone and Kumadori, the part I'm having trouble with is identifying who is who to insert pictures. That's why I'm asking does the RAW for the chapter give any indication to help me with this problem? Thanks in advance if you do or don't find anything.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 16:41, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Kanji Question
Can you tell me the meaning of the kanji that appears on chapter 454 page 10-11 ? --Blaublau94 (talk) 17:34, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh...Thx --Blaublau94 (talk) 01:39, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Konan question
Hey, I noticed you removed the slight addition I made to Konan's page (the one about her possible return due to madara wanting to retrieve the Rinnegan). I was just curious as to why, since it does make sense that we see her back. Not only did she take Nagato's body back with her, but she was also involved with the Akatsuki and simply "left" them. Pretty sure Madara wants to silence her, or at least won't mind silencing her while he's there. greetings from a fellow dutchman!


 * Fair enough. Though I do believe it makes sense that we will see her returning shortly. Anyway, you may want to take a look at http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/A (the Raikage page). I'm fairly sure his name isnt "A" :/...


 * I don't know what his actual name is, but naming him "a" is pretty stupid, don't you think? Why not just keep him as "Raikage" (he's the 4th Raikage or something?). Just naming characters A, B, C etc are just ridiculous. Just my two cents though.


 * A handbook I don't have. I never buy stuff like that. You being dutch, you should know the sometimes scandalous prices of imported materials. So you're saying his name is actually just that? A? What the F.......

Japanese name
From the German Narutopedia: |. Althought I dont know if the Kanji are OK, all the other techniques that I have checked there (like all the Manipulated Tools techniques) are completely right, so I supposed that the Five Senses Confusion Disorder will be OK too. It´s a nice page for images and japanese names, indeed--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 16:21, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Im sorry :( Ill ask you the next time I use information from it ok?--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 20:38, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well, about the primary information, what do you mean with that? Fanbooks, Databooks and that things? I dont know where to find that kind of things. Can you help me, please? ^^ (excuse me if my english is not very good)--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 22:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

FWD: Translation vs Anime
ShounenSuki, Silverblade1 has asked me a question about our jutsu page titles and I'm wondering if you could properly answer his/her question as I can not think of a proper response to ease his curiosity. Here is the question he asked:


 * For the names of the "Jutsu" pages, is there any reason we use the literal english translation names instead of the english manga and anime names for the page title??Silverblade1 (talk) 00:36, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks in advance.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 00:48, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question, but theres one more thing. On Deidara's page, his stats say they come from the First Data Book? Should't they be from the third? and since i don't know how to edit the stats, i cant fix it--Silverblade1 (talk) 16:13, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can fix this. Jacce | Talk 16:15, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Databook questions
Hi! I was just wondering: in which databook was Genma Shiranui given his stats and was the stats changed for Ibiki Morino, Kisame Hoshigaki and Shizune or did they remained the same in the databooks they appeared in? Jacce | Talk 16:45, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Jacce | Talk 17:07, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: SuperN
Check almost any page on Akatsuki, the uchiha, or their abilities and you will see what i am talking about.~Kagutsuchi100

Its not the edits that are the problem. The problem is that he undoes every edit made by people. Even if they are legitimate. Kagutsuchi100 (talk) 22:41, March 30, 2010 (UTC)Kagutsuchi100

How can i if he undid them? There is no evidence of it anymore. Look at recent activity and compare the versions he edits.Kagutsuchi100 (talk) 22:53, March 30, 2010 (UTC)Kagutsuchi100

4th Data Book
Do you have any info about the next Data Book, assuming there is going to be one??--Silverblade1 (talk) 23:48, March 30

Thank for telling me what you know, there are some stats for characters i wanted to know :D--Silverblade1 (talk) 00:11, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

What book is this?
[http://www.urakai.com/ndb3/160-161.png What book is this? And how can I get it.] --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 03:50, March 31, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Chōza Akimichi
I was wondering if you could help me with Chōza's page. In the actual article, it says that he can use the Super Multi-Size Technique, but it is not listed on his jutsu list. I can't figure out how to add jutsu to the list though. Ryne 91 (talk) 18:02, March 31, 2010 (UTC) Ryne
 * He used it when Suna and Oto invaded Konoha. I'm not one hundred percent sure that he used it in the manga since I watch the anime more than I read the manga. I know that it happened in the anime thought.
 * Ryne 91 (talk) 18:17, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ryne
 * For the manga, it is chapter 137, but I think it was just the regular version at that point. Jacce | Talk 18:26, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

He must have only used the Super version in the anime then, as one can tell by the picture for the Previous Ino-Shika-Cho trio. Thanks for clearing that up. Ryne 91 (talk) 18:29, March 31, 2010 (UTC) Ryne

Kanji question
Is "チャクラ" kanji for "chakra"?--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:41, March 31, 2010 (UTC) Thanks. Also, I have a request: could you find kanji for "Sound Five", please?--LeafShinobi (talk) 08:54, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 09:06, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Arcs
ShounenSuki, is their an official source that states when a arc begins or finished? I only ask as with the current happenings of the manga it has me presuming that we have finished the Five Kage Summit arc and enters something along the lines of the Fourth Shinobi War arc. Thus the articles would need to be changed to reflect this. Thanks and sorry if I'm bugging you.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 02:08, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I too,have been bugged by this question. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 02:18, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * I'll answer it here then ^^
 * There is no official source for the beginning and ending of the arcs. In fact, even the names of most arcs are unofficial. The databooks do give names for certain missions seen in the manga, but that is about it. --ShounenSuki (talk 07:32, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since we're on the topic, do you think we could start anew arc maybe the Fourth World War Arc? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 11:51, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * I'll throw this in here because it caught my interest. Shock and awe.
 * Anyway, following standard anime fandom, an begins and ends when a major event begins and ends and are named after an important element in that event. For example, the first few chapters and episdoes of Naruto are called the "Introduction arc" as it...introduces the characters. After that they go on their first mission into the Land of Waves and we get the..."Land of Waves arc".
 * THe question however, is "How do you know when a major event begins and ends?" Very simple really, made even easier as this is a shounen series which involves fighting.
 * Was there a major fight or confrontation?
 * Was the main character of the arc involved?
 * Did that main character return home/rest area to rest up?
 * Is something somewhat related or completely different from the this arc about to start?
 * If all four of these can be answered with "yes" then congradulations my friend, you saw the ending of the arc.
 * Thank you for giving me a chance to nerd out. ^_^--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:02, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * your very welcome TU3. But still I think the Kage Summit is over and the 4th World War is on. So my question is: can we actually make a new arc for the characters instead of piling it in an age old arc? KiumaruHamachi (talk) 12:05, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

I honestly don't care. If it makes it easier to organize go right ahead.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll need help with it though... I'll fix Naruot's,   Madara's,  Kabuto's profile. KiumaruHamachi (talk) 14:15, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * Sorry for my late reply, but I'd say it's still way too early to start working with a new arc. In fact, I rather dislike the use of these non-canon arcs, but I guess they are a necessary evil...


 * Any way, these past few chapters could easily be part of the ending of the previous arc and even if they aren't, we have absolutely no way of telling that the next arc is going to be about the SWWIV. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:10, April 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * True Shonen, so true. I agree with you but the endings are implying "Fourth World War this" and "And the verge of war that" So I don't know. And you said it yourself that theres no official source for when and arc begins and ends. So I'm not sure what you want to do. I just changed like over 5 possibly near 10 characters with "Fourth World War Arc". KiumaruHamachi (talk) 21:21, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi


 * I'm just saying that I find it a bit premature to start talking about a new arc. There could just as easily be a training arc first, or an arc leading up to the war, or any of a dozen other possibilities.
 * However, perhaps we should use the Fourth Great Shinobi World War Arc, as we lack something better. If it does turn out differently, a bot could easily change the name. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:26, April 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I like that idea. Let's go ahead with that. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 21:27, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi


 * Psh. Bots are for the weak-willed and people with limited time on their hands. We should edit like 100 articles with the new arc by hand and when it turns out to be something completely different, change them all. By hand and as sanity slowly slips away from you then you realize...all that awaits all of us...is..oh look a penny! Yay! /happy --TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:09, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure there are Zen monks who would find enlightenment by merely reading that post... --ShounenSuki (talk 22:14, April 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Always some humor within Naruto Wiki, I guess. Anyways, I'm still on the bot idea. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 22:28, April 1, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Summoning or Reverse Summoning?
Which technique is Shima supposed to be listed with? At the moment, she isn't listed as having any summoning technique, but she summoned Naruto, Fukasaku, Gamabunta, Gamahiro, Gamaken and Gamakichi with one technique. She said the regular Summoning Technique, but she also summoned Naruto, so that would mean she used the reverse summoning technique. Possible explanation or probable plothole? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:39, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

why?
Why is it that when i put a picture up on my user page someone deletes it? that not right!!! --KidRah (talk) 20:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Akatsuki Member List Tempalte
Hey Shounen,
 * Can I use the Akatsuki Member List Template? For my wiki. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 00:34, April 2, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Question
Can I upload cheats for the Naruto game pages?

Correct Kanji
ShounenSuki, sorry to bug you, can you check the Kanji and word meanings on this page please to make sure they're correct. Thanks.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 19:25, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Shippūden Movie 4
Is this enough info to warrant an article? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:29, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Gamaken photo
Do you think you could take a look at Gamaken's Discussion page. -- WhiteArmor  (Talk)  06:37, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Your webpage
In you user page you said that you have a webpage explaining the characters of Naruto and similar things. Can you send me the URL of the webpage? I want to see it just a bit ^^ Thx--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 16:15, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Episodes
I would greatly appreciate it if you could send your bot to purge all the episode pages so that the values are all updated and the episodes will start working again. - S im A nt 02:39, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, about the List of Episodes page...did any one take a look at it, it has more problems--Silverblade1 (talk) 21:14, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

New Sharingan
Are you going to create an image like the ones on your user page for Sasuke's new Eternal Mangekyo sharingan? -- WhiteArmor  (Talk)  04:48, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Kakashi stats
Hi! Could you comment this please? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:16, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Jinchuriki
I am sorry to bother you with this Suki, however, as you are one of the top translators and I guess admins for this site, I thought I would bring the situation to you, why exactly is the Jinchuriki article have seperate sections for "Jinchuriki" and "pseudo-Jinchuriki"? Before, we just added that title to Sora and it was just one simple list, however, now it has two lists, one of offical Jinchuriki, and of pseudo-Jinchuriki which doesn't have a correct list. Amaru herself is on the list as a "pseudo-Jinchuriki" and I remember everyone having a big discussion about whether or not she was even a Jinchuriki to begin with, let alone a pseudo, not sure if a possessed person counts as a "pseudo-Jinchuriki" all the time. I tried to correct this myself however they just changed it back to two lists. --Juubi no Ryuu (talk) 01:57, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in but Juubi has a point there. What is the difference between being a temporary host and permanent host to a bijuu? I mean, technically Gaara who lost his tailed beast could very well be put into that category now. --AshlyKunoichi (talk) 23:59, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also butting in, I think that Amaru would be a pseudo one because her tailed beast isn't an actual tailed beast. Sora is one because he didn't have the actual tailed beast, but its chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:07, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * This whole pseudo-jinchūriki concept is flawed in the first place. is it even actually used in the anime? Let's see if I can't fix it up a little. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:52, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kazuma referred to Sora as that just before using the Five Element Unseal on him. At least someone translated what he said as that in subs. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:54, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, I was right with you until the end when I remembered something from canon. The tailed beasts are in fact chakra beasts and the will of the beast, (I guess coming from its soul?) is permanently tied to the chakra, thus, Sora technically hosting even a little of it means he did have the real 9tails in him, its full will anyway if not its full power. --AshlyKunoichi (talk) 00:55, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

The Time of Naruto
As we all know, the time and place of which the events of Naruto take place, remains completely unknown, but is for certain, that it does not take place on our own world, which we call Planet Earth. The settings in Naruto are ravishing, it seemingly takes place a long, long time ago but has many technologies we have today. For instance, Television (not shown much in the series, but has appeared in some instances such as the anime-only episode in which Sakura and Naruto were hosting a recording of the best fights throughout series I, and also appeared as a camera-like technology when Orochimaru was watching Gen'yūmaru kill the other contestants to find out who would be the next vessel for him.), long-distance talking (as seen with the conversation between the Daimyos.), and also it appears there is a electric-powering system running throughout the city as there are wires and poles that give it away. That's all for the architectural structures, Next is the time. The time in Naruto is very similar to ours, as they also use years, days, and months. The only thing we don't know about the time of Naruto is about which year it is in, or month, or even day. But that is mostly all I can give to you all for right now. Oh, and can every body welcome me, I am new to this site, bye! Lizasa (talk) 16:20, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * For all we know it is our world, only in the future after WWIII wipes everything out forcing people to start again with little to go on, rebuilding many technologies in a way that seems familiar yet not so. And they too may have gone directly back to the way we are now, with urban sprawl ruining the environment, instead the sage of the six paths emerged and changed everything. Summoning and storing scrolls make shipping things a lot simpler - cars, trucks and paved roads becomes useless with those around, and a village simply out in the middle of the woods could actually function. --AshlyKunoichi (talk) 17:14, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is one creative idea, except the fact that the land is very much different and also no characters or events say anything to suggest that that happened. What you said is that a war destroyed almost everything then all of the remaining people decided to become Ninja, Samurai, etc. My idea is that it takes place in a totally different universe or even dimension. Lizasa (talk) 18:48, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Movie name
Hi! I hate to bother you, but could you take a look at this please? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:06, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

There is a charcter called Michy
There is a charcter called Michy im making and its a real charcter by the way and i was wandering how do you get a info box, if you don't beleive me he is a actor in Naruto The Movie: Ninja Clash in the Land of Snow.$A$UKE (talk) 10:23, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Does the databook say this?
I was looking thorugh Viz Forums and found something that shocked me. It says that the databook states Madara age as 100+. Is this true? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 13:45, April 13, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * Thank you Shonen. I'm going to PM that person and see if he can give me a scanaltion. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 15:18, April 13, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamchi

Bots
How do I set one up to go through all the articles and change things and move things like you manage to do whenever you want to do mass edits?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:21, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. I was planning to brute force the whole case issue at some point today, and I wanted to make sure I was sitting through 30 odd articles changing things.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:43, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reverts
Ehh Shounen..Some of the reverts i get, and some i dont...I dont really need a detailed explanation, but cud u please just leave a reason in the Edit Summary for the reverts. A's pic. Well the manga pic shows him better, I get it..I dont however get the revert for the Sage Chakra image which i replaced, or A's pic in the Raikage section (although i'm guessin its the same as A's infobox reason,,But for the raikage page, isn't it better to show him AS raikage?)..AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 04:30, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, no prob, i was just wonderin about some of the reverts...AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 15:19, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Opinion
Hi!! Would you please give us an opinion here? I dont just want to make such an edit without hearing the opinions of some high-ranked people here. Thank-you for the attention ^^--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 12:28, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Summoning Debate
Regarding Jiraiya and his summoning on page 15, chaper 374; why is it that then that every other time the blood is shown. To do it so close to Nagato not doing it sounds deliberate.

why cant i edit the minato page?!?!?!?!?!?
Hey dude listen.The minato page's trivia needsa to be edited.pls write this "At one point of time it was speculated that minato was the leader of akastsuki,This was however proved wrong

Not the right Arc
I read somewhere (now see I don't remember the website) that the current arcx is "Control of the Kyuubi Arc" Can we change the name of "Fourth Great World War Arc" to "Control of the Kyuubi Arc"?--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 13:29, April 23, 2010 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi


 * Okay. We'll wait until the next chapter or three to really see what it's focus is on.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 14:59, April 24, 2010 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi

Incomplete name
In the movie, there's Ōgi (奥義, if it's the same as in One Thousand Years of Death) just after the Ranton. What would be the best translation for it? Secret Technique, Supreme Technique? Ultimate Technique? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:43, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

help
how do i get into the box with the jutsu to edit cause im trying to do that with amaru but i cant get it..sorry if i messed it up
 * I can answer this. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:02, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Infobox Suggestion
I really don't know, i'm against really even listing movie/game debuts for anime/manga characters. - S im A nt 18:43, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well if you thought it would be a good idea, i'd be fine implementing it, what would be good to place in the movie infobox? Just basic stuff like debut date, time it takes place between in manga/anime storyline.. etc? - S im A nt 15:37, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

hi
hi how are you?

Mokoi
Do you know what his name is in Japanese? And for that matter, the Falls of Truth in Japanese as well?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:50, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

...D=--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:10, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I could guess what King's Japanese name is, but I'll defer to you anyway. ~SnapperTo 19:45, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks at the various edits* And this ShounenSuki is why we love you. ^_^--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:57, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kintoki...^_^--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:13, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Amaterasu
Can you give input in the current situation, and while you're on it, block Onomatopoeia? You showed up just right on time. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:22, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto Uzumaki
Exactly why did you undo my edit on Naruto Uzumaki? I was correct wasnt i? Do you know of anyone in konoha 11 that has a nature affinity? If not, then why did you undo the edit?Kagutsuchi100 (talk) 21:11, April 29, 2010 (UTC)Kagutsuchi100

Dont undo the edit. I am correct and you are not. How am i wrong? Should i ask another admin who is right here? Kagutsuchi100 (talk) 21:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)Kagutsuchi100

stop please...

outer path
Since your translations seem to be the basis for the whole article, I wanted to point out to you that every actual japanese forum I've seen seems to disagree with you that the king of hell is the 7th pain. And as for your translation on the discussion page, where you said this is the most literal translation, you seem to be making the mistake of applying English sentence structure rules to Japanese. Literal translations are useless, so I don't get your argument. And frankly, even as an English sentence it's ambiguous yes, but I wouldn't think that translation refers to the king of hell even as it's presented. I figured this would be a better platform for saying this, considering not much seems to be given to the discussion pages on this topic anymore. But read the Japanese language sites, they disagree with you. And since half my posts seem to never make it past a day or so I'll add this: If you think about it, it doesn't make sense for the king of hell to be the 7th. Because then you're saying the only ability of the naraka path, one of the other 6th, is to summon one of the other paths to do things for him. And that just seems a bit silly. The king of hell is a tool, a summons. The difference is Naraka's control over it is far more limited than Nagato's, who can exercise far more influence over the king of hell. Plus the idea that Yama is the 7th just doesn't fit into the Buddhist line: each path represents a level in the reincarnation cycle, and they are saying that Nagato is outside of that, hence the 7th path. The outer path to enlightenment.

But if you take anything from this please look at the Japanese language sites. Because if it's your translations they are basing this on, then if I can change your mind that's all that matters.

Manga colored Images
When you find time, i'd appreciate your insight into: Narutopedia talk:Image policy. - S im A nt 17:26, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if you missed this message, or are impartial, but judging from this edit, I think you may agree. No need to write anything lengthy just yes or no.. - S im A nt 18:07, May 1, 2010 (UTC)