Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180806030742

@CombatIQmatters sees it also. LoneNinja wrote: Thanks for proving my point about your statement on Gimp. You obviously have 0 experience with it. Or you would of listed reasons why it "sucks" when I asked for them. But instead you just went to "Gimp sucks" with no reasons. Yes it's now a fact i don't have experience with it, because you just said so, who cares about what i said. Read my reply again and you'll see the reason why i said it suck.

Oh. So now I have to quote you when you said Naruto is instant when we literally been talking about it for a while now? So I'm wrong now cause I didn't quote when you said he was instant? Even though you go on to admit you said he was instant but you debunked it? Yeah, no. I don't need to quote anything when you admit it, lol. Nice try though. So you really got lost, i asked you to quote me saying anything close to what you said here '''In fact, using Gimp shows me Obito moved over 200 pixels where as Naruto only moved 177. Which means based off your logic, anyone who falls is faster than instant (0 sense).So gravity > KCM Naruto speed, according to you.'''..again didn't say that, that belongs to legionzero.

"Why would a person go max speed?" Uh. Maybe to blitz their opponent and end the fight? Maybe to dodge attacks they couldn't dodge? Maybe to avoid letting the enemy ever get close enough to end the entire world? Or maybe because the writer forbids them to, because the target of the blitz has more role to play in the manga. You should try to watch the anime sometimes and not the motionless manga.

Only an idiot who didn't care that the world was at risk wouldn't use their max speed to 1) end the fight with a blitz (Naruto never did even when he charged to attack which means he couldn't). 2) Dodge (Naruto had to be saved multiple times). Prove Naruto wasn't. My proof is that the circumstance he was in itself. The world was at risk, Naruto was getting his ass kicked and needed help, and all his friends were dying. That is reason enough to believe he was giving his all. Your reasoning "He didn't have to" is not valid. Cause he did due to the fact Obito was all over him and Naruto was basically a damsel in distress the entire time. My same statement about the writer can be applied here and did you check the manga chapter i provided or not? i saw no feedback on it here, that was where naruto was actually blitzing!. And you said naruto needed help, and also you're hinting that Naruto is at top speed in that battle (watch anime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) so the guys who came to help naruto would also be at the same amount of speed you're assuming that he's going at in that battle, that means base Gai and Kakashi is KCM Naruto speed, that also means that kakashi and base Gai can dodge the raikage, Obito used kamui to evade Ay, and Naruto used footspeed. And loneninja you proved me wrong twice already since i joined, but honestly i don't think you will do so this time, because i'm honestly telling you that you're wrong. Let's proceed with proof from now.
 * Proof Of Actual Blitzing, and Naruto's top speed. The problem with you guys in this argument is that you're assuming that Naruto is always at top speed which is false.
 * 1) A..585 Page 16 [Against the transformed white zetsu's] Naruto suddenly appeared with two rasengan and slammed them down.
 * 2) B..505 Page 11-12 [Against Kisame] the panels on page 11 shows naruto standing next to killer bee and yamato, the panel on page 12 shows naruto blitzing kisame....he most certainly didn't do anything like that vs Obito.
 * 3) C..571 Page 2-3 [Against Bijju bombs] Moved so fast he seemed like a flash, Gai commented on his speed, Kakashi questioned if it was Naruto, Obito was shocked.
 * 4) D.. 544 Page 12.the very famous one, where he dodged Ay's top speed punch.

Those scenes are nothing compared to KCM Naruto vs Obito battle.

Killer bee was able to keep up with KCM Naruto, that also confirms that killer bee is as fast. (These proofs also hints that he doesn't go top speed every second) And that also means the guys above can also dodge Ay...doesn't seem smart now huh?
 * Now if we were to play by your logic then:
 * 1) A..Roushi hit KCM Naruto, there that means Roushi is as fast
 * 2) B..Han kicked KCM Naruto away, there that confirms even han is as fast.
 * 3) C..Whilst heading to the war Naruto and bee were jumping from tree to tree in the forest,