Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-24163532-20160302030954

@Ninja of War

“There is no longer a need to discuss whether Amaterasu is instant or not. In your comparison Sasuke used blaze release, which is an advanced form of Amaterasu, not just Amaterasu. As I said many times, your accusations are baseless.” Actually it isn’t baseless, where does it state or show that Sasuke’s flames are faster than Itachi’s? Oh wait, it never stated that, because it isn’t. As I stated, the only difference is Sasuke can manipulate them more freely, reference is to Sasuke’s Mangekyo abilities. “If I really stated that the toads are faster than Haku please quote it, otherwise I don't feel the need to even respond to your accusations anymore.” Again here is your quote stating that Toads are faster. “8) Toads are known for there ability to cover large distances in a single leap, now this jumping ability can be used for speed, to jump in and out of combat. As referenced by Gamaken, when he jumped out of combat with pein's summonings and even out of the focus of pein's rinnegan. So there is a reference to toads being able to evade the focus of dojutsu. To dodge or block Amaterasu," If you still do not understand how this states Toads are faster than Haku then let me break it down for you, kiddo. If Haku cannot escape utilizing speed, a barely awaken, Genin level, Sharingan’s visual range, and a giant toad can escape with their speed, the visual range of a fully developed Sharingan (Your assumption), then how is that not stating a Giant Toad isn’t faster than Haku? As for the episode of Jiraiya reverse summoning, I’ll watch it in a bit and won’t reply to that subject until I do so. About Jiraiya’s usage in smoke bombs, please provide the episode or manga page where he was shown to do so, then I will get back to you on that. “So you think that three giant toads won't stand out as much as one giant toad?” Actually I was wrong about that, you are right, they would stand out, but that would have been to Jiraiya’s benefit thus proving more that he would have summoned them. Because Jiraiya was trying to hide, the toads would better benefit that by providing a distraction and protection when Jiraiya needed it. Instead of all the summonings focusing on one giant toad, they would have been distracted with two. Then when Jiraiya was in Sage Mode, he could have used that distraction while the Toad Sages were prepping their Genjutsu. So actually it would stand out and summoning them would have benefitted him (Should be noted I didn’t go back and read my reply so I don’t know what exactly the convo was, so my answer is based off the question presented on this page). “2) How do you think Jiraiya will use the info that he has on Itachi?” He would prepare himself most likely against his Mangekyo abilities when the fight was engaged. Itachi is known for Genjutsu usage but mostly visual, so Jiraiya would try to avoid eye contact however because Jiraiya has shown to not need eye contact on multiple Genjutsu techniques, this method would fail. As for Amaterasu he would do his best to avoid it since at most he can seal it away (if) he brought the sealing scroll with him, which isn’t known if he carries around. “3) If Jiraiya was able to reverse summon 10 dogs, with each of the dogs comparable to Gamaken in size, do you really think he would not be able two more giant toads? Reference part 2 ep 131” I’ma watch it first before answering this. “4) The moment Itachi starts to use his MS, he will be eating through stamina and chakra, be experiencing extreme pain. Even more so when he uses his Susanoo. How long do you think he can retain Susanoo and is it possible that his fighting strength would decrease the longer he uses it?” I would say of course it would decrease as long as he uses it, but I don’t necessarily rely on the Susanoo’s power in my arguments, mine is Amaterasu and his Genjutsu abilities. He can probably retain the Susanoo a lot longer than he did against Sasuke since he was dying at the time and is at perfect health now as well as use more Ms abilities, Chakra draining techniques, etc, that he used on Sasuke. Now here is my question for you, if Jiraiya has never defeated Orochimaru, a guy he has competed with his entire life, in a Naruto vs Sasuke fashion, and Itachi not only one hitted beat him, but killed him as well, what makes you think jiraiya can beat Itachi? If you need references I’ll provide them in my net post, but hopefully you know this stuff already.