Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180607192958/@comment-34194151-20180909220911

@Cleoina

To clarify, minato won't start with markings all around, but he doesn't need to. Remember his hand speed. His nose was touched by absolute speed ay, and he still had time to toss a kunai and teleport away before his face could be caved in, leaving only a small bruise. Standard distance is 30 feet away. Minato can close 30 feet in under a second with his shunshin. I hope I didn't imply that nagato can't react to his shunshin, but the issue is this. Nagato canocially starts with summoning jutsu in character. IMO, the only person outside of god tiers who can safely form a precise movement like a hand seal in the time it takes for minato to close the distance with shunshin is itachi. by the time nagato resolves his summoning jutsu, minato is already almost in his face, and he is more than capable of planting a kunai in the ground near nagato in that time that he is running, it's something he more or less all ways pulls off, he did it against juubidara. Also, nagato has no reason to shinra tensei the kunai that isn't directly thrown at him, that would be a waste. Nagato without knowledge would panic at that extreme speed, his instinct is shinra tensei, just as his summons appear. minato is surprised and sent flying, but if choji and chouza have the tolerance to then follow up with a chain attack afterwards, so can minato by teleporting back to the same kunai he planted. Nagato would not see that coming, and he would get rasengan'd and marked. Preta path also isn't going off because nagato is surprised, + obito wasn't able to activate kamui to that combo, and i doubt nagato has better reflexes than him. after that, the battle would go as you described. Nagato can get back up and ward him away with his ashura armor. Minato would move away, and he probably would be a little wary of carelessly teleporting back to nagato's back, because he realized that nagato clearly isn't ordinary if he could survive a level 2 rasengan and has spawned a strange armor. nagato then does missle barrage and creates a smokescreen and dissappears into his chameleon. then the fight would resume as you described. Minato would probably take this time to spread more kunai while being alert for where nagato is, and the battle would continue as you described. I don't think minato would try to FTG to a target he can't see, i think he is careful enough to wait for nagato to reappear. in the meantime, nagato spawns more summons etc.

Well, that's the thing, minato doesn't need to one hit kill, I'm refering to sustained damage over time, once nagato is marked it's just time. Minato's kunai slash is still weak i agree, but it was implied to threaten Ei's raiton armor. Also that same kunai was capable of piercing obito, someone durable enough to block zabuza's sword without injury. Nagato wouldn't die to a kunai slash any time soon, but it definitely will do some damage, especially in a vital point. Also, when has jiokugdo been shown to heal? That's actually a point I haven't considered, logically it could revive pain bodies but those were simply corpses and the mechanics of that wasn't explained. Jiokudo can heal people if it can revive people, but that jutsu requires nagato's own chakra. if he could simply heal himself with that jutsu why did he become a near cripple? him... but if you are right then this fight became insanely more difficult lol.