Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909134305/@comment-734582-20170910193511

Mr. Grave wrote: that is trouble for someone like Minato and Tobirama since it acts as an impenetrable shield e perfect counter to Tobirama and that is why the fight took on so long. We've seen Minato block contracts and teleport Ninjutsu, so it's not a problem for him: Susanoo is a ninjutsu and chakra, Minato can FTG it.

We haven't seen such things used by Tobirama, though the Databook somewhat implies his water release cuts through it. I think it says something like "it can break even the toughest armor". Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: and tobirama only uses one, one-handed seal, for all his jutsu (its that seal that looks ur pointing up with ur middle and index fingers, while the others make a fist), so I wouldn't worry bout that. Minato uses zero seals for FTG, for Rasengan, for his FTG marks, for his contract seal break, for his Barrier ninjutsu.

Minato doesn't have to be faster by a large margin. He just needs to be faster. The tiny fraction of a fraction of a second that Minato beat Obito by was enough to beat Obito, the same way that the tiny fraction of a second that Izuna realized Tobirama's move was enough for Tobirama to defeat him.

Minato doesn't need to be faster by some huge margin. But we know his Shunshin, FTG and jutsu are faster, and that's enough. Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: forming a rasengan on the fly isnt really impressive either. there is no difference between making a rasengan on the spot, and making one while moving. Doesn't matter. You suggested that Tobirama could strike while Minato had to form it, but Minato forms it practically in an instant. Tobirama won't be able to act on that, because there's nothing to act on.