Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-9782468-20140711025221/@comment-7292165-20140714025806

ItachiWasAHero wrote: He defeated Obito and took Kurama out of the picture in that fight. Minato was strong indeed. Just not some special reincarnate DNA thief with with which he awakened Rinnegan, who needed his brothers eyes,used a bijuu to fight, and became a ten tails jinchuriki just to become "Godly". I would say Minato with no distractions or injuries, before death and in his prime vs Madara without Wood Release, Rinnegan, and Kyuubi being used, around the time he fought Hashirama would be a good fight though I would say Minato would win in the end. Tobirama himself has praised Minato as being better with his own techniques and even being faster than Tobirama with his normal speed and reflexes, and more masterful with his Hiraishin, as he managed to warp the whole alliance.. Tobirama said he could not do that. Madara already said him and Tobirama were tied in life(before Rinnegan and Wood Release). At the very least Minato would tie with Madara/Tobirama in a fight... Now Tsunade would get squashed by all 4 previous Kage easily.

Obito wasn't even all that strong in my opinion. He had the ability to become intangible and suck away things. That's all we get for him. He had fire release but rarely used it. He didn't need it apparently but my opinion as abilities wise Obito before the war was probably the least strongest. Now though Minato may be fast normally he has yet to show it cuz all he do is use Flying Thunder God Technique. As for reflexes goes he's shown great skill in that I'll give him that but that doesn't just make a strong character. It shouldnt just be one aspect, Minato's speed to just consider him strong. As for you trying to rant on Tsunade she showed way more abilities and capabilities than Mine to sorry to say but its true. In my opinion he would give Madara a somewhat decent match going off what they showed of him which compared others wasnt too impressive. And Tsunade losing to the other Hokages may be true but there was no need to bring her in this. Its just sad.