Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3568954-20140523074558/@comment-3568954-20140523094059

The Winter King wrote: Actionmanrandell wrote:

also you say you would like to see hashirama take him down because he is madara's rival but the truth that they are rivals because of indra and ashura so if either hashirama or naruto took him down it would essentially be them both doing it

Well, yeah its all speculation, but a sage's upgrade could speed things up for naruto and sasuke, but they still wouldn't have mastered the DNA's they acquire to awaken the rinnegan

Take Madara's case since he didn't have access to a lot of Senu DNA(body of a senju) the rinnegan awakened very late for him, but it only awakened after he had mastered the Senju DNA

I mean Obito's 50% body is Senju, so he had a better shot at awakening the rinnegan, but then there's that reincarnation factor

Also, about the reincarnation thing, you do realize that despite being reincarnations they still had their own will right?

Their rivalry might have been caused by the Indra/ashura thing, but they still had their own free will, which is why each version was a bit different than their predecessor

Madara was so different that he acquired a portion of Ashura/senju DNA and mixed it with his own

So it wouldn't be the same if Naruto defeats him, thats why i'd like to see Hashirama Defeat him

the thing is that it is said that all you need is the power of both the uchiha and senju the sharingan itself is the power of the uchiha and Naruto already has the senju power(body as well as uzumaki chakra) so a transplanted sharingan may very well instantly awaken into a rinnegan the moment it is in a senju body because that is technically the completed power of the sage also it appears that senju DNA is so powerful that Obito's eyes do not go blind(he instantly could use kamui with out training the moment his MS awakened) so it is safe to assume that any senju who has a transplanted sharingan instantly have an eternal sharingan and i guess you can argue that since obito doesn't have any special appearance of his MS that it can't be a EMS but i could also argue that the change in appearance is caused when one uchiha transplants the MS from a family member so the change is actually the two sharingan combining but again this is all speculation but since they have shown that obito has no vision problems unless it turns out he has been blind for years and simply had been going on instinct