Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-44455926-20191119200613/@comment-33286580-20191120072838

Jiraiya's only advantage before the war arc was having Ma and Pa fuse with him over Naruto. that dissapeared once we know that Kurama can do the same for Naruto.

No. by no means is SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya equal in terms of strenght and speed. there is a reason Naruto was called a perfect Sage and Jiraiya was not. Jiraiya could not properly balance the Senjutsu Chakra and so could not use it to full extent. the fact that he could barely do anything physically to any of the Pein is the testement of it.

the fact is further proved when Jiraiya does not know to use Frog Kata, which probably is something only Perfect Sage Mode users can.

And having a thousand Jutsu did not help Kakashi be stronger than Naruto. it is not about the number of Jutsu that one possess, you know.

And HELLL NOOOOOO! Jiraiya barely managed against three Pein bodies and that to with the help of Ma and Pa. he had to trick them into the pipes and use Ma and Pa's ultimate Genjutsu to knock them out. and once the Six Paths came around he was toyed with.

Naruto did have help in his fight with Pein, just like Jiraiya did. Jiraiya had Ma and Pa and they helped his SM run constantly and did major contribution in the fight against those three Pein. with Naruto they were merely assisting.

the fact that Naruto took out multiple Pein bodies on his own speaks for his superiority. he casually tossed around Summons and defeated them with a little assistants from Toads. he defeated Asura Path with a Rasengan, Preta Path with Frog Kata, Human Path with a Rasenshuriken, Naraka Path with Rasengan, Animal Path with little assistant from Gamabunta. He later defeated Preta with Sage Chakra absorbtion and Deva Path on his own.

And that rhetoric that Pein was weakened is a joke to me. All his Paths were functioning near 100% except Deva and the only restriction Deva seemed to have was that because he used the massive Shinra Tensei he couldnt use his powers for a while. Nagata was shown to be truly tired after he fought the Kyubi and had to use Chibaku Tensei and not before that.

even then by all feats, Naruto who defeated all Peins with minimal assistant, while Jiraiya had to have Ma and Pa use their strongest Jutsu to even defeat three and you say that SM Jiraiya was stronger.

JEEZ.