Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26182227-20150817232901/@comment-26381547-20150820022426

In response to everything above, Kakashi is one of the strongest characters in the series but it's only about Kage level. If we include DMS, he can slightly fight on par with Madara's Susanoo. And don't say Kakashi is smarter than Madara, MADARA BASICALLY CREATED THE WORLD OF NARUTO without anyone knowing from the shadows (aside from black Zetsu bull). Really, Madara's the guy who completely overwhelmed all 9 tailed beasts, all 5 Kage, and basically the whole Shinobi army WITHOUT THE TENTAILS.