Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46486865-20200730051057/@comment-46486865-20200731054300

Ninja Of War wrote: @CursemarkSenjutsu

Interesting thought. A few things though, Hebi Sasuke didn't depend on Karin due to him not being seriously injured at that time.

After he almost died from Deidara's final explosion, Karin just stood there. Later at a resting placeJugo just wraps some bandages around him.

Also, I don't think it was ever stated that the curse mark gives the user the same sensory ability or degree of enhancement as sage mode does.

Well it is based off of it, and to add more, Hebi Sasuke could just use his sharing to see the flow of Chakra kneading in MS Sasuke's eyes. Ex: Obito when he awakened his sharing was able to see invisible people, aswell as read the Chakra signatures of people. Orochimaru being a third party to this battle is quite confusing. Is Orochimaru allowed to pop-out anytime?

Thats like asking if kcm1 Naruto can use Kurama's Chakra or if 8 Tails Naruto vs Pain counted.

I do recall that Sasuke used his MS on a cloud shinobi to obtain information. And Suigetsu commented how more convenient his eyes have become. So, that would be an indication of genjutsu improvement.

All of the Genjutsu I've mentioned Suigetsu was not present besides from Jugo, and Sasuke was heavily weakened from Deidara's explosion.

Curse mark hasn't been shown to increase the range of Chidori sharp spear, which has remained consistent at 5 meters or healing powers.

Well it does, and he did it in base Curse mark. And Sasuke didn't try again. And if he did, it depends on How much power is put into it compared to range. Or if Sasuke was flying swell.

As for an actual fight. MS Sasuke would probably use chidori and then switch to spamming Amaterasu and Susanoo. Hebi Sasuke would probably counter with Chidori and fire style.

MS Sasuke can't spam Amateratsu consistently, and Hebi Sasuke with partial Curse Mark (which jugo mentioned impressive) out ran Itachi's Amateratsu spam and got hit on purpose so he could use Fire style then Kirin.

Though, I don't see Hebi Sasuke outrunning Amaterasu or breaking through Susanoo.

Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes should easily break Susano'o without much difficulty, and Curse Mark powered Chidori Katana negs.

Also, chakra usage for Sasuke has been inconsistent imo. Hebi Sasuke used 7 offensive jutsus against Itachi ( 1*genjutsu, 2*chidori/chidori stream, 3*fire style, 1*Orochimaru substitution) plus CS2 activation, before running out of chakra. MS Sasuke at the five kage arc used 10 offensive jutsu (3*Chidori/chidori stream, 1*genjutsu, 3*Susanoo, 3*Amaterasu) and could still continue.

Well thats pretty inconsistent as Mangekyo Sasuke was healed and all of his Chakra returned when Zetsu gave him, and Karin healed him heavily 2x, and Hebi Sasuke used 3 Genjutsus on Itachi (one at the Cave, another on Itachi once more) an additional chidroi while running into Naruto's clones, A Chidori Katana + Chidori spikes all within the same time range. MS Sasuke's fight with Bee just shows you who's really stronger.

So I don't think this is an instance of Hebi Sasuke outlasting MS Sasuke.

Ig he does