Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-32685487-20200919153029

First off, the DB4's context is on him as an Edo and him as a TTJ besides the few lines dedicated to their VotE fight. The entire page made that clear. Secondly Madara never once fought Tobirama nor kept up with him before he had taken Hashirama's Sage Mode so wrong again. Thirdly Tobirama and Izuna's speed were never compared, Izuna had Sharingan to make up for his speed loss against Tobirama anyway and Tobirama still killed him. Kakashi was never on Itachi's level, that headcanon needs to stop already. Madara at VotE knew he would lose so he had Izanagi ready, despite having Kurama with him but the databook likes to leave that out but of course you don't want to mention that. But sure keep up with these bad arguments.