Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200108180030

Idk, I still think that if Obito used Kamui on Nagato, he'd be pulling him in, but it wouldn't restrict the movement of Nagato's extended Asura limbs and wires, just because they wouldn't be close enough to the epicenter of Obito's Kamui. I also just thought of this other tactic Nagato could do: who's to say that Nagato wouldn't employ the same strategy Konan used, but instead of paper-bombs, he'd use the Asura Path to blow Obito up in his portal? And I'm not sure if Nagato would be damaged by the explosion, because on many occasions, we see the Asura Path's head open up and do some weird blue explosion that would make you think he's self-destructing, but then he is just completely fine afterwards.

I'm not sure I follow your point regarding Minato, I don't know what part of the fight you're referring to. Maybe I just said that in a strange way, you know when Minato telports to the kunai above Obito and puts a rasengan in his back along with the mark?

Ok just before teleporting, he and Obito were running at each other, Minato telports when Obito touches him, but he was alredy near him with the rasengan, so he could've just pushed foward his arm while being swrirled in and hit Obito?

It would probably be easier for Obito to use genjutsu on them in the Kamui dimension, where they are surely bewildered and stranded from potential assistance. And the way Obito took them both into Kamui was from behind them, so he didn't have direct eye contact with them the moment he used Kamui.

It's the same thing with Konan. Why didn't Obito use genjutsu on her from the very beginning of the fight, and just force her in the genjutsu to tell him where the Rinnegan is, rather than lose an arm, waste a Sharingan and risk death? Maybe proximity was the issue, or just that Konan was smart and knew to avoid his genjutsu, idk.

Kakashi wasn't fighting Obito alone at the point I'm referring to. Obito was still fighting Naruto. I'm referring to the point where Kurama essentially throws Kakashi at Obito, and then Obito sucks him into Kamui, and then Naruto freaks out. Then, in that same exact spot (Obito hasn't moved), Kakashi sees Obito's intangible body parts directly in front of him, and then proceeds to punch him. That's why I think the Kamui dimension directly overlaps with the real world in terms of distance. Guess it's true, but how do we explain his way of fighting multiple enemies?

Maybe a thing that could work is that when he has the enemyes in his dimension he can easly put them under genjutsu? This way putting Fuu and Torune there could have been reasonable, like when fighting with multiple enemyes and trying to put them in Kamui-land

I wouldn't think that Obito would use Shadow Clones, at least as many as Nagato could, since their chakra supplies are quite different in size. But if Obito did use the Shadow Clones, it wouldn't really change much except just result in another stalemate. But Kamui speed gets multiplied every time that one or more clones use it on the same target, clones will help him and Obito has Hahsirama's cells he should have tons of chakra

But still this clone thing feels like not a thing for both of them

What I meant by Danzo's 1 min timer making him quicker to attack Sasuke was that because his immortality would run out quicker than Obito's, he'd end up attacking Sasuke quicker. The moment each eye closed on Danzo's arm could insinuate this. It's just difficult to scale time in anime, since characters can have paragraphs of thoughts in the space of seconds. Like how Naruto and all his Shadow Clones were going to bumrush the Deva Path in the last skirmish, and it seemed to take 30 seconds for Pain to count down the 5 second interval. You mean Danzo attaked Sasuke in some kind of intervals? When one of his eye closes the successive alredy activated Izanagi, he even eneded the thing in a kamikaze attack when he trough Izanagi was active