Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190213044806/@comment-9782468-20190221213124

CyberianGinseng wrote: Right out of who's ass from which the crow flies did Itachi pop dafuq up in a Jonin Minato/Jiraiya(Sage) vs 4th Raikage/Killer Bee fight? Happens a lot in the Naruto forums. Mainly power scaling. People want to compare how Jiraiya stacks up in this thread, and it's noted that Jiraiya and Itachi are around equal by the databooks and Itachi's statements. Some people believe the statements, others don't.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Seems like you're forgetting that Itachi is on Konoha's side, he deduced that Kakashi got his share of intel of Akatsuki from Jiraiya. So why take away the source of info? (also don't forget that he didn't and couldn't engage Jiraiya) he even indirectly spill a piece of akatsuki's goal to the same Kakashi he wanted to take away, the fourth hokage's legacy he said to them, Kisame doesn't know what that is, but they did. Now that begs the question what was he really gonna do with Kakashi, cuz it doesn't make sense if Itachi leaks info to Kakashi then take him away to erase similar intel, clearly he had other plans. Itachi was on Konoha's side and? How do you figure that Itachi deduced he got his info from Jiraiya? That's speculation at best. What was stopping Itachi from engaging Jiraiya? Perhaps the fact that he couldn't beat him? Also I think you're reading too much into Itachi's words; at this point in the story, I don't think Kishi was planning on having Itachi be a good guy. Itachi was shoving so much hatred down Sasuke's throat that Sasuke up and left his friends for more power. Doesn't seem like something Itachi would do, based on what we know of him.

In any case, Itachi told Kisame to take Kakashi as soon as Kakashi revealed his knowledge of Akatsuki's goals. Simple as that; Itachi needed to figure out what else he knew. Tsukuyomi consumes more, cuz he kinda spammed amaterasu in his last battle and his Ms didn't deactivate. Could he have spammed Tsukuyomi similarly? nope. He didn't kind of spam Amaterasu in his last battle. He used Amaterasu twice. One to smother Sasuke's fireball, and another to tag him after. Andyou can very obviously see how hard it strained Itachi's eyes to do so. Honestly i got nothing here. But i'll just stick to my itachi didn't wanna take down a potential future hokage' statement. [also he never said he couldn't beat jiraiya when escaping] Right. He said it before he even engaged him at all, right?

Also again, Kakashi is possible future Hokage, a very probable future Hokage as well. And the only one who coud heal the mental damage done was Tsunade, who wasn't even a Kunoichi anymore at that point, and no one knew where she was except a guy who didn't stay at the village anymore. Itachi had zero problems hurting possible future Hokage. He also had zero problems incapacitating anyone who got in his way. Itachi instead decided to escape Jiraiya instead of confronting him. Using one of his most chakra taxing techniques. Instead of using his less taxing tech to incapacitate the man looking right in his eyes (Sharingan Genjutsu).

Itachi and Jiraiya are very close in terms of abilities. It shows from actions, character statements, databooks, everything.

So, in regards to this fight, Jiraiya is obviously a very serious opponent. He's give a hard fight to Bee or Ay, and with Minato I think they'd beat them handily.