Talk:Sasuke Uchiha

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What he attacks.
"Sasuke attacks what seems to be the White Zetsu clone"

Looks pretty obvious to me that it's a White Zetsu clone. Should we alter it to say it is, or leave it? SusanooUnleashed (talk) 02:24, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * This was my variation. I'm in favour for making it straight Faust-RSI (talk) 10:26, September 1, 2011 (UTC).
 * I think it's a White Zetsu clone as well, but I understand why someone would want to keep it on the safe side. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:04, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Eternal MS
We need a major overaul on this page now that his MS is revealed. I cant edit though so i need someone else to do it
 * You can still ad suggestions here. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 09:34, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also can someone add that he killed the original white zetsu, and not a white zetsu clone? You can tell because the side of his face is missing, whereas with the clones their faces are complete.
 * See Zetsu's talk page, it wasn't the real White Zetsu.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:49, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see how major changes are required. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:04, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Psychopathy
Is it really our place to say that Sasuke is borderline psychopathic? Is anyone here a mental health professional who can attest that? I know Sasuke is very evil and all, but I don't think we should use such terms unless someone in the series describes Sasuke as such. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:50, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol I agree, he seems fine to me now and I don't thing psychopathy is a temporary thing. It's just that given the circumstances especially who he was fighting he became uhm... very driven?--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 19:59, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Psychopaths, in the psychological sense and not the pop-cultural one, are at their most basic people who lack empathy. Sasuke is capable of such emotions, as directed towards his brother, but his hatred has become so intense that he lacks empathy towards nearly everyone else, as shown when he almost killed Karin because she was being held hostage. 207.216.212.126 (talk) 10:01, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Which means he is psychopath or not? --VolteMetalic (talk) 11:06, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Weapon?
Didn't Sasuke use a chakra sword enveloped in Amaterasu, rather than an arrow, as the article states? It's pretty clear that Susano'o used its hand to wield it, and impale the Zetsu clone, rather than shoot it with a bow, which is nowhere to be seen... 95.42.184.104 (talk) 23:56, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say it was a sword. 207.216.212.126 (talk) 09:52, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

It was a sword. Its clearly a sword. I don't know why they put it as an arrow. 72.66.90.246 (talk) 22:41, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't a sword. If you actually go and check, you'll see that it's an arrow. That's how Sasuke's Susanoo holds its arrows and always has. Skitts (talk) 22:52, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * To be fair. Sasuke's Susanoo did have a sword once. Maybe it is a sword though it doesn't really make sense that it still has a bow in its left hand...--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 23:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can see how you would think it was a sword, it's jsut I was watching the anime earlier and it's arrows looked just like that. Skitts (talk) 23:30, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Eternal Mangekyo
Under Kekkei Genkai, it should be mentioned that he has the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (or does it just come under Mangekyo Sharingan?) --speysider (talk) 12:12, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * The latter, there's no template to support an EMS icon.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 12:55, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah ok. It could be done by simply using the Mangekyo icon with Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan as the text. --speysider (talk) 14:53, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

sasuke enternal pic is across the web  use  the there  eyes  for each user sence there  all different  also sence theres only 2 users it should be easy


 * ^SIGN YOUR POSTS! And, afaik, there were more than 2 users who obtained an Eternal Mangekyo (probably wrong) --speysider (talk) 15:19, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

When Itachi told Sasuke about who Madara was and how he got the EMS, Itachi claimed that for generations, the Uchiha "killed their friends to attain power, and killed their siblings to make it permanent". Whether they actually did it depends on Itachi telling the truth, and if they actually succeeded in attaining the EMS. And since EMS is an exchange of MS, we don't list it in infoboxes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:03, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well we used to not list it, SimAnt created the template for it so the complaints for it should stop.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 22:12, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Omnibender: I guess.
 * @Cerez365: Nobody is complaining. --speysider (talk) 07:22, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

In this section (i.e. Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan), an editor mentioned that Susanoo wields another weapon on its left hand. Hasn't that already been clarified as the bow? Burra101 (talk) 16:42, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * After Sasuke gets EMS, the weapon isn't clearly seen, so we don't know if it's the bow he had when he used regular MS or a variation of the sword. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:43, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Rasengan
Umm Just a question but since sasuke has sharingan couldnt he technically use rasengan? Cda081799 (talk) 02:06, September 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just because he's seen it, it doesn't mean he knows or will use it. Until Sasuke suddenly shows up using a Rasengan, he doesn't have it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:26, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yea Sasuke could use the rasengan but we will never in a million years see him use it. Sasake can use the Shadow clone technique as well but never uses it. Besides, sasuke would never master the rasengan to the extend that naruto has. Kakashi and Minato couldn't even do it.68.216.154.2 (talk) 04:31, September 19, 2011 (UTC)TailedBeast
 * You're assuming he can use the Rasengan and Shadow Clone Technique. Not everything that a Sharingan sees the user can perform. It all comes down to whether or not they themselves have the ability to use it.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 10:16, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ok first of all sasuke learned how to use the shadow clone way before naruto. Second, im pretty sure sasuke could use the rasengan if he wanted to, sharingan or not. Ethier he could copy it or learn how to use it himself cause the sharingan can memerize just about any technique but like i said before, we will never see him use it.TailedBeast (talk) 02:45, September 20, 2011 (UTC)TailedBeast
 * Sasuke learned to use the Clone Technique, not the Shadow Clone Technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:48, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Still, being able to memorise something, does not mean you'll be able to do it. Theory use and practical are two entirely different things.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 02:52, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure everyone can use shadow clones cause itachi, Konohamaru and kakashi can all use it and i still say sasuke can use the rasengan if his sharingan can copy it. If not then he can still get taught on how to use it but he is smart enough to find out on his own from studying it.TailedBeastTailedBeast (talk) 15:24, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Shadow Clone is a jōnin level technique, so no, not everyone can use it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:40, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

LOL no i meant anyone could use it including a genin.TailedBeast65.0.108.106 (talk) 20:18, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Eternal sharingan?
besides stopping the spread of major eye blindness due to cataracts, has there been any evidence of eternal mangekyou sharingan actually doing something beneficial for the user? i could have sworn madara/tobi said something to sasuke about the beneficial effects of E.M.S, but i dont remember the chapter.

[by the way- i think it's safe to assume that mangekyou gives you some type of cataract in the eye, just look at that glossy glazed look sasuke had when he fought kakashi & naruto (this was just a little tidbit that i found amusing .lol)]


 * Have you ever seen a blind person? Their eyes are pale his is in the middle

2myname1 (talk) 19:23, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

better picture of eternal Mangekyō Sharingan
i was reading a naruto manga and there was a better picture of the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, should someone add it

here's the link so you can see it http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/556/19--

It's a FANART akz! (talk)   02:10, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

who cares it's still a better picture--

It does because its a fan interpretation not from Kishi or the animators. when it comes to colors and design, Manga/anime is king regardless what we think. Fan colorings are no more than fanfiction which is a no no.Umishiru (talk) 02:56, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blaze release.
Why was it removed from his info box?Umishiru (talk) 02:15, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed.Umishiru (talk) 02:54, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

beside make the user see what does enternal do
does it give new powers make new powers more advance seeing any speed or some thing like that (74.141.196.236 (talk) 02:24, October 2, 2011 (UTC))
 * When Itachi first talked about it, they way he spoke about EMS was rather ambiguous. It could be interpreted as the EMS being born, or as an EMS technique becoming accessible. Sasuke showed us that it did upgrade his Susanoo though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:34, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

so does that mean all the sharingan powers upgraded (74.141.196.236 (talk) 02:37, October 2, 2011 (UTC))
 * We'll have to wait until Sasuke starts spamming EMS techniques to know for sure. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:45, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well sasuke can see in the dark now and probably got new upgrades to his Sasunoo. I wonder if it has the Sword of Totsuka or the Yata Mirror.TailedBeast (talk) 07:32, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, Sasuke's seeing in the dark was just a reference to him not being legally blind anymore. It's not a new ability or anything like that.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 14:25, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can awaken Rinnegan now.
I see now how Tobi was planning on making Sasuke sync with the Gedo Mazo. Now that Sasuke has the Eternal Mangekyo he can awaken the Rinnegan. So that info should be put in his abilities section. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 20:50, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, we don't know how Madara awakened the Rinnegan.--Deva 27 20:53, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

We know that is Tobi's plans. However, it is not going to be added until he is actually shown, you know, doing it. He has the potential to awaken it, but he hasn't. Skitts (talk) 20:54, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I know we know Tobi's plans, but now we know how he plans on making them happen. Also, Deva, its obvious to how the Rinnegan is awakened. It is awakened by Extreme Emotion, just like with the Mangekyo. Look at how Nagato awakened his, he was extremely Enraged. I'm assuming extreme Rage and the urge for revenge all at once is what awaken's the Rinnegan, but only after the EMS is obtained can the Rinnegan be awakened in an Uchiha. All this is evident if you go back through the manga like I did, and re-read the recent chapters. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 07:09, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now you're just speculating. If extreme emotion was the only prerequisite to unlocking the Rinnegan, then some of the jinchuriki would have awakened it. And if it requires the EMS like you suggest, then how was Nagato able to awaken it?

That was a rhetorical question, by the way. It cannot be answered without speculation.Ryne 91 (talk) 07:16, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to remind everyone that this isn't the place for speculation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:58, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

narutopedia adds stuff to its pages according to facts not speculations.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 13:09, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Part 1 Speed
In the abilities section, it says that he was able to match Naruto's speed in his two jinchuuricki forms after gaining the third tomoe to his Sharingan, but wasn't that simply him predicting his movements and dodging accordingly? Skitts (talk) 05:30, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

What it should say is he was able to match those speeds once he reached his Cursed Seal 2 stage. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 07:10, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Killing Intent?
Has anyone noticed that Sasuke never killed someone in the series (except the Zetsu clone)? Maybe we can put this as a trivia.

Even if that were true, it isn't trivia worthy, as we tend to stay away from things like that. Anyway, he killed Danzo, a Zetsu clone, and tons of samurai at the Five Kage Summit. Skitts (talk) 00:03, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Danzo killed himself, with the Reverse Four Symbols Sealing Technique. Samurai and Zetsu clone are so... random.

What are you talking about? Danzo didn't kill himself. Sasuke shot him through the heart with Chidori Sharp Spear. All that the Reverse Four Symbols Sealing Technique does is activate upon death, it does not cause it. Anyway, you're trying to be selective to prove you point. O.o This is not trivia worthy, nor is it true. Skitts (talk) 00:11, October 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Danzo was close into death by Sasuke, so he did killed, as for the Samurai, well I really don't think they're "so random".-- 00:17, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Dagger
When did Sasuke used a dagger???--Omojuze (talk) 18:04, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

I have not noticed as well ... and I'm his fanboy. --Elveonora (talk) 18:16, November 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I took his name off of the dagger user so it should go away. If it doesn't then i guess we will have to ask an admin to take it away. Joshbl56  18:27, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: I think i found the page where the daggers are though he only used them once as far as i remember so i don't think we should add him as a user. Joshbl56 18:39, November 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Those are throwing knives. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:57, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

If they haven't been used, then why they're on Sasuke's page?--Omojuze (talk) 16:15, November 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe because of this. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:20, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

mangekyou debut
In what chapter does Sasuke awaken his Mangekyou Sharingan? --64.30.65.80 (talk) 22:25, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

402 if Im not mistaken --Elveonora (talk) 22:31, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

It was first shown in chapter 402.--Cerez365™ 22:35, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Clothes
Should not he have images of all costumes he wore through the series in his appearance section ? --Elveonora (talk) 17:39, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

We would have that section cluttered with pictures, even if it were a slideshow. Instead, I'm gonna say that we already do have all his different costumes in his storyline part. Joshbl56 19:14, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I see. --Elveonora (talk) 22:49, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Seeing in the dark
Are we going to use the 'seeing in the dark' thing that Sasuke said literally cause I thought it had to do with him being able to finally see again (as 'being in the dark' is accustom with being blind for the Uchiha)? Joshbl56 09:35, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think what he said was meant to be taken literally. Sight in darkness isn't all that special anyway. I think what he meant was simply that he wasn't going blind any more.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 11:47, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I thought Sasuke simply meant he could see fine in the darkness he had always been in. You know, the same darkness he mentioned to Gaara. "I have long since closed my eyes… My only goal lies in the darkness.". I don't think it was meant to be taken literally either. 173.170.192.45 (talk) 05:55, January 28, 2012 (UTC) Zeni6758

Formerly
Some of the jutsus in the infobox are jutsus that he cannot perform anymore, they are: Body Shedding, Cursed Seal of Heaven, Hidden Shadow Snake Hands and Binding Snake Glare Spell. He cannot use them anymore because Orochimaru and the Cursed Seal of Heaven were removed from him during his fight with Itachi. I think we should be put:(Formerly) after the jutsu's name in the infobox.Ultimatex (talk) 16:36, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * The wiki cover all points of the series, not just the current one, and as such because at one point he used the technique, it's there. If that was the case we'd simply remove the techniques from the infobox. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:46, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I mean we should just put:(Formerly) after the jutsu's name in the infobox, like: Body Shedding (Formerly) similar to how we put (Anime only) or (Game only) after the jutsu's name in the infobox. Ultimatex (talk) 17:58, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Like I said, we don't do that. We used to, a long time ago, but we don't any more. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:30, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I personally think putting "formerly" on the jutsus he can't use anymore would be helpful for those who aren't as caught up and informed with the manga. Just my 2 cents :/ 76.235.7.222 (talk) 03:05, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sword of Kusanagi
There is a lot of confusion on which Sword is the true "Kusanagi" of Japanese legend. I would like to ask ShounenSuki or someone again ... you once stated something about possibly Kusanagi not reffering to a specific sword, but rather to a type of swords.

But what if Sasuke's and Orochimaru's swords are one and the same ? Orochimaru's version was seen transforming into a snake and coming to Oro. It's highly presumed when Enma took the sword after the fight with Hiruzen, Orochimaru simply used a summoning technique to get it back since the sword is basically a snake. My point being its kinda the same how Sasuke was not seen retrieving his sword at all, only for it to magically appear in with his latest appearance. Is it not possible Sasuke summoned his sword back just like Orochimaru did ? --Elveonora (talk) 02:13, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Sasuke's sword is apparently just an ordinary chokuto. Your point about the retrieval of his sword is somewhat moot because Tobi can go pretty much anywhere instantly. Also, if the sword is indeed ordinary (and I doubt he'd have waited to use its special abilities this long), then it would be easily replaceable. Skitts (talk) 02:30, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Tear troughs?
The latest chapter does sasuke have tear troughs like itachi now?
 * Yup. What had happened was Tobi integrated Itachi's tear troughs into Sasuke's face in order to No. What you're looking at is a shadow of Sasuke's nose from his face being thrown into what I think is called "relief" from the lightning crashing down.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 18:26, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sasuke's New Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan
this panels shows a recent picture of Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyo SHaringan that has both sides the same as the other you can use. --BlackGhost91 (talk) 12:30, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

He is correct, it is confirmed the left eye being upside down was an error in the debuting chapter of Sasuke's EMS, it is fixed in this chapter. 72.66.90.246 (talk) 17:55, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

I hope you know that those designs spin. In the manga as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:58, February 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * FIXED* It is confirmed the left eye being upside down is correct and the right side was an error instead in the debuting chapter of Sasuke's EMS, it is fixed in this chapter. Also for the rest of the manga chapter it is the way I have just described so the eyes are correct in this chapter. 72.66.90.246 (talk) 18:00, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * What is your source? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:08, February 17, 2012 (UTC)