Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180306214433

@Rachin

all close range fighters are reckless in a sense. when one fights hand to hand with an opponent, they in turn are are in the hand to hand range of their opponent. the amount of punches they can unleash on their opponent can also be unleashed by their opponent on them. the only defence is close range is blocking your opponents attacks or predicting their attack and being able to react to it. Gai can do the former, but he has shown no feats with the latter.

for Gai, who is primarily a taijutsu user, who fights close range, as in within arms distance, why would the range of Frog Kata matter. all Naruto has to do is unleash the fist near Gai's body and at this close distance there is no way he can miss.

Gai is not Tsunade or Sakura to use ground destroying attacks. he fights opponents hand to hand. dont bring in things Gai wouldnt do.

maybe you are not undestanding the fact that at the finale Pein wanted it all over and so he focused all his power in the Shinra Tensei to defeat Naruto, which Naruto survived.

as for Kakashi... the times Shinra Tensi was used on Kakashi was to undo his jutsu, the Earth Wall, the lightning hound, the surprise attack from beneath the ground, but when Deva Path really felt threatened by all the combined forces he unleashed it full force and bam everyone save choji (protected by Choja) and Kakashi were dead. Kakashi was essentially incapicated.

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@Legion

3Raikage may not be as fast as fourth with full power, but the Raikage in general are fastest shinobi. it is the fact the manga portrays. Gai isnt close to their speed.

Hirudora doesnt have a clear description of how powerful it is. but it is clear that the likes of Ultra Big Ball Rasengan or Rasenshuriken are far more capable of overpowering it.

Choji and CHoja squashed (as per you) the very Pein that Naruto first defeated in a punch.... but, real big one, the Path was still alive and mobile after being squashed, while Naruto's punch tore it into pieces. is there clearly not a difference in powere here. jeez. and this is the Akimichi, said to possess great physical strenght because of their jutsu.

btw, the one Kakashi pierced is the one that CHoji and CHoja squashed, but could not kill. Kakashi is using Raikiri. its function is to pierced through.

also remeber... the one Naruto destroyed to pieces was the Asura Path, the physically strongest path of Pein, one that was used to engage enemies head on.

dont try to downplay SM Naruto's strenght by bringing in feats of people that cannot even be compared to the destruction caused by Naruto.

also, did you forget the rhino. th beast over hundreds of meter tall and probably weighed in tonnes.

the Konohamaru part... it was the RASENGAN. one of the strongest jutsu outside the realm of S-rank jutsu, jeez.