Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-6769189-20180301003740

There is no argument you can make about the Rasenshuriken and the 3rdRai, because Naruto admitted it didnt hurt him at all even with a stronger technique in a stronger form. He didnt want the Rasengan to hurt him? He couldnt make it hurt him if he wanted to.

I meant Gai uses more technique and form in his fighting style. The raikages rely on overwhelming force as opposed to actual skill.

TBB 's take time to charge especially if they are packing in more chakra. Regardless you have yet to provide evidence that it is confirmed in the manga that they are moving in some sort of hyperspeed. Where is your frame of reference.

If Madara wasnt OOC it would have been noted that hirudora was ineffective despite being so strong. He would have been shown yo be just fine. Hirudora blows stuff up. Thats what it does, and because it wasnt shown to be failing to do blow up Madara, then it blew up Madara.