Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-12509038-20141124214040/@comment-12509038-20150104034042

@Everyone- my personal life is resulting in some serious time constraints. Therefore, I'm going to have to start making my responses a lot shorter. Sorry if its somewhat of a disappointment (though I'm sure Windy won't be so disappointed).

@AsianReaper: Fair points, but I have to admit that KOL did make some fair points. Still, Kakashi is one of my favorite characters- nothing changes that.

@Gemnist: Here is a fully plot summary of The Last. Now a lot of your points I would like to debate, but again, don't have the time right now (hopefully in the future). But I'll just say this, based on what I've read and saw from the film, I personally love it (well, most of it), and I think it's probably the best Naruto film that will ever be made (unless Sasuke does something really important in the Boruto movie which makes it better than this film- after all, Sasuke is #1).

Yeah, Sasuke's attitude during/after the Danzo fight is very controversial and it what made a lot of fans dislike the character of Sasuke (I was not one of them). Unfortunately, we didn't really get to explore this dark side of Sasuke a bit more in the manga because he came across Itachi. But then he came up with the idea of revolution, which was infinitely more interesting than just a mass slaughter, and so it all balanced out in the end.

This is another thing that I want to debate further in the future with you (that's why I've really been enjoying discussing things with you- there's always something to debate). All I can say right now is that the Curse of Hatred should have been extinguished when Naruto and Sasuke came to an understanding at the end of the manga. While it's true that hatred is something that will never go away, its no longer the same as it was for Sasuke. But I need more time to go into a better explanation.

I agree that Sasuke was always Naruto's greatest foe- he may not have been as threatening as someone like Madara, but he was always the person Naruto was meant to clash with. Their second fight at the Valley of the End will always be the "fight of both their lives." Also, what has Naruto said that makes you believe he's "seen the good" in Orochimaru?

@TU#- Glad to see someone of your caliber join the discussion! :D

I read through your post and I gotta say that I need more time to give a full response. Until then, I'll say this- what about some of the more personal categories (characters, arcs, fights, etc)?

@Elve- A shame... hopefully you might be able to give something in the future.

Finally, before I go, I noticed that a lot of people go with Invasion of Pain Arc (AKA Pain's Assault) as their favorite arc. I want to know why? Believe me, its a tremendous arc- one of the best in the series. However, I do believe it has flaws. I went back to a previous discussion I wrote, and so I want to post my issues here (I am copying and pasting it without reading it and editing it- please excuse me if there is something in the post that doesn't make sense). Here are the flaws with the Invasion of Pain Arc in my opinion:


 * For starters, while I enjoyed the Sage Mode training, I think it went on for a little too long, and got boring sometimes. So much of the training revolved around being still, and frankly that is not too interesting to read/watch. Also, though we saw the training methods, we never really saw the true improvements until the fight with Pain. Also, Naruto used all of these Sage techniques and senjutsu-enhanced Rasengan, and we never saw him develop these techniques.


 * Next, the Konoha shinobi seemed incredibly incompetent in this Arc. While they knew nothing about Pain except for what Jiraiya provided, hundreds or thousands of shinobi should be able to deal some damage to at least one of the Pains.


 * Also, I think there were many opportunities that were missed. In this Arc, the Konoha 11 should have shown off their new abilities. While Kiba, Shino, Hinata, Choji, and a few others did show some of their abilities off, none of them were shown in extensive detail. For example, Team Guy was not even in the village during the attack. Wouldn't it have been much better if a few of them teamed up on one of the Pains and attacked him, showing off their abilities that had not yet been revealed yet? Instead of seeing one of the Konoha 11, we saw Konohamaru take out one of the Pains. When this happened in the story, I was extremely angry. I hate Konohamaru with a passion, and so when he was able to inflict damage to the Pain, and none of the Konoha 11 did anything, my blood boiled.


 * This is sort of a nitpick, but the Asura Path (the mechanical Pain) went out way too quickly. He is my favorite, and I think him battling Naruto would have been interesting, but we never saw it...


 * Finally, we come to Nagato's revival of Konoha. While I don't completely hate this, I was not a huge fan. The only two major characters that were killed was Kakashi and Shizune, but they were brought back to life. While I love Kakashi, and I am very happy he was revived, I would have preferred more minor characters like Shizune, Shikaku, Choza, and even a Konoha 11 member like Tenten, Kiba, or Shino, die in the assault, and Nagato not revive anyone. I just think the story would have been better off for it...

There are a few other flaws that may be present, but these were just the ones I immediately thought of. That being said, there is still a lot more good to this arc than bad. Thoughts?