Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200110184957

Again, Kabuto was controlling Nagato. Nagato couldn't use any techniques of his own volition, literally watch the fight again and he says "My body is moving on its own"! Me saying that Nagato didn't even need clones in that match-up isn't saying he can't use them, but just because I think he's strong enough to take them on without. So you're supposing that Kabuto is moving Nagato into using the rinnegan abilityes and for some reasons he didn't decide to make shadow clones?

You saying Naraka Path could be too much stress on a living body is headcanon. Based on what we've seen of the Naraka path, it shows the ability to heal and mend the worst of distortions. It literally makes no sense to be limited to healing things that are dead. I'm not formulating a theory on that, it's just an example, the rinnegan has strange limitations, like the outher path, Nagato could revive a whole village but couldn't use it on himself

There is a stress on using handsigns to activate certain techniques, like Fire Release where he borrowed Kakashi's hands. So if Obito uses both his hands to hold onto his soul then he can't do much. And if Obito doesn't grab his soul, well the battle would be over pretty quickly.

I'm not sure what gives you the impression that Shadow Clones can't use their abilities, honestly. Even Tailed Beast powers are replicated in Shadow Clones, each individual Naruto clone was in Kyuubi Mode. Madara used his wood clones and they all had their own Susanoos. They can use the ocular techniques or anything from the original user, it just would take up chakra which would lead them closer to going poof. No, Madara can use susanoo with the clones beacause they are specifically wood clones, the thing is that susanoo takes a toll on the body and wood clones can sustain some damage without popping out, so tecniques like amaterasu that make your eyes bleed can't be used with clones

Nagato is obviously more proficient with using the Rinnegan, given how he could handle both and had them for his entire life. But, I still think Rinnegan Obito > Orange Mask Obito. Obito when talking to Kabuto confirmed that he could use the Human Path, so he can use at least some of the techniques. The reason why I said in my original post that Healthy Nagato VS White Mask Obito is White Mask wins mid-high dif is because of Obito's access to the Rinnegan's abilities. Human Path on Obito's side would be more easier to execute with Kamui, than Nagato's original strat. But the thing I'm not sure is, is if Obito grabs Nagato's soul, and then Nagato attempts to grab Obito's soul back...>>> Would Obito still have Nagato's soul in his hand if he de-materialises? or would he have to run away and then attempt the Soul Steal thing again? I'm not sure how it should work with souls, given that when he uses that on a body even the chakra gets teleported then if he's still with the sould in his hand and wants to activate Kamui even for the sould then even Nagato will enter the phasing state and Obito will not be able to evade the attack