Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25075055-20140410195636/@comment-1207741-20140513182537

Speysider wrote: I believe User:X29 got his rollback right revoked for abusing it and using it as a way to not write comments on anything he reverted. That you need to go back a full year to find abuse indicates how irrational you're being.

Speysider wrote: Now what happens if someone is good enough to get close / highlight / delete rights and gets the rollback flag that they never asked for and start abusing that? Here are a couple thoughts of mine, which I'm certain I'm repeating to you:
 * People do not suddenly become less trustworthy when they move between namespaces. A person who is responsible in their actions in the forums is also going to be responsible in their actions in articles, and vice versa.
 * Standard user rights are far more abusive than anything that is restricted to rollbackers or your proposed mod. A standard user can move pages, upload things, blank articles, etc. Whereas a rollbacker can only revert a couple of edits at the same time and your mod can only remove things from a very small section of the wiki. A normal user is much more frightening in their abusive potential.

Speysider wrote: I don't see the value in adding more people to the rollback group if they only need forum moderator permissions, hence I suggested making a new usergroup which grants those rights without interfering in the mainspace. Except that most of the people you want to be mods are already rollbackers. So it makes no difference.

I'd like to just get this over with because I don't have it in me to keep making the same points.

Things break down as follows:
 * Myself, Kasan, and Cerez are in favor of limiting forum removal (and hightlighting, I guess?) to rollbackers.
 * Speysider is in favor of a new group for those same rights.
 * TTF and The Ultimate are in favor of restricting said rights to sysops.

Unless somebody would like to change their opinion and/or somebody who hasn't given their opinion cares enough to do so, the simple majority is for rollbacker-rights.