Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20160721111003/@comment-734582-20160721160459

An Advocate for Manga wrote: ^ My depiction is Hiruzen in his 30's, and Itachi if he never contracted the sickness he has. I meant in practical terms.

Like, we have some smidges of info on what Healthy Itachi looks like (somewhat better reactionary times and better vision). Other threads have suggested Healthy Itachi is basically a god even though Sasuke v Itachi suggests he's only somewhat better than his sick version. I imagine most people put Healthy Itachi somewhere in between, but where is that?

Similarly we have smidges of information on what a Prime hiruzen looks like (e.g. being stronger than a fully powered Orochimaru) and he was strong enough to be called a God of Shinobi even though he's the near-direct successor of the previous God of Shinobi (since Tobirama by any account couldn't have been Hokage for more than a handful of years). Later databooks and stories however are awfully silent about Hiruzen (most likely because there never was a plan beyond "he's the professor" and Hiruzen was collateral in the Edo plotline).

So in practical terms, how far beyond his old self is Prime Hiruzen, and how far beyond his sick self is Prime Itachi?