Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-31338621-20190212222201

AsianReaper wrote:

Congratulations, you have made arguments so illogical they've compelled me to come back, hopefully for the last time (but I'm weak).

Itachi didn't come there to put Kakashi into a coma either yet look what he did. Also the ever loving Itachi decided to put Sasuke through so much anguish over his inadequacies that he quit the Leaf too. I mean, Itachi came for one reason but did more than that before leaving lol. If he could beat Jiraiya, he wouldn't have said he couldn't.

I mean, for Kakashi to survive Kaguya's dimension swap, he had to adjust to the fact that he was falling, scan his environment, realize he was falling into lava, take a scroll out of his pouch, tie the scroll around a kunai, throw the kunai up into rock so hard it impales the rock, catch Sakura, and throw a kunai into Obito's hand. Before they fell into lava. I truly don't think Jiraiya can't seal Amaterasu away in time, they're ninja.

@Flatzone's example is an outlier, it's never shown with this potency again. Plus I think the hole had more to do with the force of the technique Itachi exerted rather than Amaterasu's actual burning properties. Especially since they've never shown these properties again, even from Sasuke who's noted as a better user of Amaterasu than Itachi.

Real arrogant of you to think you can say what's actually true about the series, and that you can decide what statement is the one that's 2+2=4. Also there's one glaring error in your example. You used a mathematical equation to describe interpreting author's intent. And that's is not a good comparison at all.

Itachi literally said Tsukuyomi's unbreakable? Later in the series, Itachi exclaims that Sasuke broke his Tsukuyomi. Lol cmon

Many people said Gaara was literally untouchable. Many said Susanoo's defense was even better than Gaara's impenetrable defense. People can say things are unbreakable, but when they're broken, it proves those statements wrong.

You're the one who's stretching. You're stretching so much you're again ignoring the databook because you apparently have yet to find a counter for it. It's ridiculous.

Of course Itachi would say what he said about Jiraiya. If Itachi was stronger than Jiraiya and he said he was stronger, Kisame would have expected him to stay and fight Jiraiya. Kisame would have been even more suspicious than he already is.

You think it's arrogant of me to say if it's true? Did Itachi say Tsukuyomi was unbreakable in Viz's translation of the anime? Did Itachi say anywhere that Tsukuyomi could be broken by Uchiha in that translation? I'm not talking about the author's intent, I'm talking about what the English in the Viz translation of the anime is literally saying. The English is quite literally saying Tsukuyomi is unbreakable and no where in the English translation did he mention Uchiha being able to break Tsukuyomi. Anybody can tell that the English wouldn't make any sense at all if Itachi said Tsukuyomi was unbreakable, than said it was breakable in the same sentence. You can make the case that translation was wrong, if you want, but according to the translation, Tsukuyomi is just unbreakable.

So you think Jiraiya is going to get out a scroll, while he's on fire? The scroll would be on fire as soon as he touched it. Jiraiya would have no plausible counter for Amaterasu, in that situation, if Itachi used it.

I'm was specifically talking about what the English Viz translation of the anime was saying, not what the Databook was saying. Of course, it's possible that the Viz translation of the anime is wrong, but it's also possible that the translation of the Databook your using is wrong as well.