Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-1514283-20140911040828/@comment-1514283-20140914105717

Snapper2 wrote: Since you wouldn't answer my question, I looked it up. I found four occasions where "Truth-Seeking Ball" is used:


 * 672 - Naruto kicks Madara's ball.
 * 685 - Kaguya notices Naruto's balls.
 * 686 - Zetsu also notices Naruto's balls.
 * 689 - Kaguya makes a giant ball.

(If I've missed one, please point it out to me.)

When a non-ball shape is used, as in 675 and 681, it is not called a "ball" but instead whatever it happens to be at the time (a "staff" or a "platform").

Reliops wrote: The fact you seem to believe there are other jutsu involved because of malleable TSB is, even though they would have been named if they were, simply adds to my point. There are some words missing here so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Reliops wrote: However, to put in anything other TSB in that parameter for users simply isn't logical or necessary as there is no evidence to suggest TSB is not its own root ability. As I've mentioned before, the TSB article makes repeated references to the substance the balls are made of. Before "TSB" is ever used in the series it is consistently treated by characters as a substance. The fact that it is not called a ball for non-ball shapes indicates it's still the substance that's the main interest. Unless you deny the substance exists, making an article for it seems an excellent way to make everyone happy.

What are you talking about, I did answer your question, or at least how I understood it.

I left out the word "how" in front of malleable, i.e. the fact you believe something like TSB has to have multiple techniques because of how malleable it is only strengthens my argument that is its own root ability. There are no other named jutsu.

Here's another example. When Naruto returned and | kicked Madara's TSB, where I believe it was first named as such, in the the next chapter Madara manipulates the shape of TSB to create a | staff. No name was given to that staff, just as there was no name given to the platforms or the lances variants, or even even the hands. The only TSB related object that was named was the Sword of Nunoboko.

Jutsu have been named post reveal before. There is no precedent nor any real logic to go by your way of coining a new term to classify TSB as a part of it.