Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26704954-20160301064038/@comment-7292165-20160310041127

Narutopwnu7 wrote: I Don't see how there is more evindences on favor of Hiruzen,Hashirama was hailed as a god of shinobi and have feats to prove his reputation,what Evidence you have of prime Hiruzen Tell me something amazing he did I will be willing to change my mind and think about that,what impresive he did in the past?,Kabuto compared Hashirama power as a Myth just like the sage of six paths and said that even nowdays his power still unmatched(at the moment).It is not even a retcon Ratchin,it was simple that at the moment Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage,'til Madara shows up and say that Hashirama was the strongest,that is like say that Minato being able to use Sage mode is a retcon when was never mentioned that he could.Basically Hashirama powers was underestimated,Not even Tsunade believed that he could fight against madara,that is why the Konoha people believed that Hiruzen  was the strongest Hokage. We have no amazing feats of his past self because Kishi failed to show us Prime Hiruzen. But what we do have are several indications that give us an overview of Prime Hiruzen, and seeing how capabale old Hiruzen is, defeating 3 kage level shinobi, we understand his title.

Being called the God of Shinobi is definitely worthy as only him and Hashirama were ever called, who in turn are modeled after the orginal God of Shinobi (Hagomoro) in the eyes of the people.

And it was a retcon obviously. Databook and the series points to Hiruzen beng the strongest kage in his prime. A later databook comes out to say Hashirama is but wasn't prime Hiruzen suppose to be? Guess Kishi changed his mind. That is what you call retcon. And the whole Minato learning Sage Mode isn't really a retcon. I mean Jiraiya never mentioned it, but then again he never told him who his father was so why should he tell him that the Fourth Hokage learned it too?

Madara didn't say Hashirama was the strongest, he said something by the lines of only Hashirama had the power to stop him. Well seeing how Hiruzen was still so young and he was brought back old from when he died, it makes sense that Hashirama would be his ultimate opponent.

You are just cautious to believe this info because you've actually seen Hashirama's full prowess, which is understandable, but for you to actually not take in the fact of how strong old Hiruzen has shown to be and hear about how powerful Prime Hiruzen is, and not be surprised, then well you are just in denial. Also, when you think about it, Prime Hiruzen's prowess are sort of a myth too.