Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-44916514-20200123204114/@comment-34656247-20200202080852

UltimaDude wrote: So you're deliberately making a straw-man. Dishonest is as dishonest does. I have already addressed the weak excuse. Call it what you want, it's a product of your logic afterall and it will remain that.

Koto would work on Nagato through Pain just like how it worked on Kabuto through Itachi. Itachi used Koto on himself and not kabuto, rip argument again.

Can you not follow a conversation? Welp, I'm done discussing to you. The way you reach for any argument to be made for Itachi's (and Naruto's) victory is off-putting. All i did was say what to that statement, hinting i didn't understand what that statement means,how did you get that i'm lost lmao?
 * You: He knew Madara was planning world domination in the akatsuki, and he has a one shot tech that could eliminate that right away, you do the math.
 * Me: Your premise is extremely weak. Otherwise, why didn't Itachi use Koto on either Pain or Obito? Also, this is a hypothetical fight where the motive of the combatants is to simply win.
 * You [in response to bold]: Making it more of a reason for him to use the jutsu.
 * Me: Except it's not, their motive would be winning just for the sake of winning. It's not more of a reason than supposedly saving the world

Halcyonite wrote: You're making an assumption that Itachi has made a summoning contract with this crow. FFS can you summarise your thoughts and not make such a lengthy post. His clone summoned it via his cloak.

Shisui's eyes had a distinct colour that Ao recognised, which implies that there are more differences with each eye than said pattern Itachi would have still been able to programme the usage of Amaterasu against Obito's specific eye. That difference is only known to be noticed by the byakugan, besides he set the transcription seal to activate on the event Obito reveals his sharingan to sasuke, probably would've worked against kakashi also, considering they had the same eye, who knows. irrelevant.

You're clutching at straws here. No, Itachi cannot reprogram the eye during a battle, that's a ridiculous claim. Why don't you try and say that Itachi can reprogram an opponent's eye to implode on itself while you're at it. How is that even close? and why can't he lmao (from reprogramming the eye during battle). Nothing's stopping him here.

We can clearly see that Madara tanked the Oodama Senjutsu-amped Rasenshuriken. Even after the smoke clears, Madara is clearly not regenerating, as there are visible off-colour flakes that have not regained his skin colour.I disagree with: Kurama avatar tanking Juubi Bijuu Dama, a chakra-based attack, does not mean that it can tank an extremely strong physical attack, like Tengai Shinsei.Besides, the smoke literally left in the next couple panels, and you were trying to tell me that Koto is an "instantaneous" attack earlier. Like I said he went off panel, with the first having him restrained with wooddragon, post RS he is now restrained by deity gates after he comes back on panel, he could'nt regen'd during that.. And like i said, lee kicked him in half, his absorbing ninjutsu was restrained by the dragon so how would it not cut him or something...Why is that still a topic, i explicitly stated he can destroy it than wait and tank it. The casting speed of it is instantenous, unlike TS's casting speed.

Ao said his "chakra network was quiet" because Danzo was literally casting Koto in that moment. Nothing implies that Danzo was using this genjutsu as soon as the Summit began, and nothing implies that he ceased a continuous casting of the genjutsu. It would have been suspicious if Mifune immediately began talking as if he had already made up his mind before a "Summit", an event of debate and deliberation. When Ao used the byakugan, Mifune had already chosen danzo to be the leader of the alliance, why would he still have the need of having an active chakra network? It is shisui's other eye afterall, maybe it has a different ability than just a programmed koto command, which is continuous command of action. Then if that's the case this is irrelevant. I did point out it being continuous of not doesn't matter for the duo to win, as the command can be enough.

Anyways, seeing the chakra build-up in the eyeball is a key indicator of a genjutsu being used, as seen with Ao and many other Naruto-world battles, and Madara is a war-veteran who eventually turned on his fellow Uchiha and the Hidden Leaf; he'd be aware of this indicator. No it's not. there goes your argument, chakra taxing techs are what's required for the user to amass a huge amount. And can the rinnegan even see chakra buildup lmao.