Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-30881771-20170713230149/@comment-7292165-20170717185155

Mr. Grave wrote: And yes, substitution was a basic ninja concept, but not the type of substitution that Killer Bee used. It was very convenient that Jinchuuriki who had a good relationship with their beasts could hide in their tail or whatever, even though we never saw any of the other Jinchuuriki do that. Furthermore, Karin, a sensor which was so intimate with chakra that she could tell a person's mood just by sensing it, couldn't tell that was not Bee. And don't give me that crap about her being immobilized - a few chapters later, she sensed Naruto's and Kurama's chakra in her nearly unconscious state.

If you want more examples of that, Bee was also overwhelmed Kisame and would have been captured if it wasn't for the Raikage's timely intervention. So your basically saying that up until Amaterasu, Killer B got overwhelmed. I can give you that, but it was all Sasuke, not Team Taka. Also, every jinchuriki is different when it comes to their tailed beast. So just because other jinchuriki haven't done the same thing as one, that makes it plot. Hello not every jinchuriki is the same when it comes their tailed beasts, not to mention most were hardly seen a fight and they as far as we know, had no reason to make a substitution the Killer B did. I agree that Karin should have sensed the fake Killer B though, but that's all I can give you.

Also, Killer B was giving it to Kisame who was just barely keeping up. Killer B could not even go Tailed Beast Mode, because had he done it, Kisame would be dead. So yes due the inconvenience of the location and Sabu and Ponta, Killer B was basically defeated, not overwhelmed. I think you need to choose your words more wisely as using the "overwhelmed" makes it seem like the person got their ass handed to their opponent.