Talk:Naruto Uzumaki

Change of picture
Why is it that the main picture does not change? Naruto looks stupid in this image, why not use one of when he is older or at least one in which he looks more respectable as one of the strongest ninja. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 00:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to suggest a new image, but it has to be a Part I image, according to the last section of the image policy. Infobox images have to shown the characters how they were when they were first introduced, so they can be recognized by anyone who is at any point of the plot. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:25, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * leave that to me, i'll suggest a picture from the anime. you guys can put it there in the infobox--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * IDEA! you know when tsunade argues with the advisors she has a flashback of naruto when he was a kid? that pic is awesome--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * As long as it's a part I image of him, it's eligible, the thing you'll have most trouble with is getting the rest of the community to agree with the image change. Me, for example, see no need to change the current image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:04, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is good one from where naruto fights kabuto http://rigoberto60.deviantart.com/art/Naruto-190433934 --Rigoberto60 (talk) 02:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Awful angle. Infobox images have to show the character's face straight on, not in a side view. The best possible image would be something that you can look like an ID card image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:31, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Omni, let's not forget that naruto looks retarded in this pic. Rigoberto, i agree with Omni in reference to that pic. I'll tell you where my suggested picture was found and you decide whether its good or not. I'll give the url in a minute--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * Alrighty then, Rigs, Omni. check this out: http://www.narutospot.net/naruto-shippuden/naruto-shippuuden-34/ don't forget, go to 9:30 for the pic--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf


 * I don't like the purple/pink background. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
 * the point, of course, to illustrate the character. the background isn't so bad. stop being so picky--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf


 * Eh, that's just my opinion. I'm just saying there are many other images to choose from. Oh and can you please sign your comments. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions


 * That would have made a terrible image. It just...doesn't look like Naruto...--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 04:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * What about this one: http://oi52.tinypic.com/64j920.jpg - From the episode Departure. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions


 * That looks preaty good but the things is that we all have to agree on it. The picture from the video actually looks better but the purple is a little to flashy but that could be edited in photoshop or something --Rigoberto60 (talk) 04:49, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * That new picture is almost slightly better than the one from the video, but is still very bad. I fail to see what exactly is wrong with the current image. It shows Naruto, its clear, it doesn't suck.
 * I do want to point out, that you can't take an image and photoshop it. That turns it into fanart and we burn that stuff here.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 04:58, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ultimate3, wat's wrong with the pic i sent. purple backgorund etc. heck wih that! Naruto's meant to be looking cool for god's sake, we can also show him wearing shodai's necklace. I don't see the problem. IT'S THE BEST IMAGE OF NARUTO I'VE SEEN! I mean, he could use that in a passport, if he wanted to!--''' Wild Wind of the Leaf


 * I agree. I have been looking everywhere and the purple back ground image is the best. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 06:12, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the support Rigs. ;)--''' Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * Ok then, can somebody put the image i suggested in the infobox? Or are there MORE objections?--''' Wild Wind of the Leaf

He could use the current image as a passport. The point I'm getting at is, that picture is just awful. It looks like an animator screw up, he doesn't look like Naruto.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 12:03, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * you've gotta be kidding me! how is it an anime screw-up? naruto doesn't ALWAYS have a retarded look in his eyes!! what's the problem with the pic i suggested?? You're not giving any reasons here. explain, then i MIGHT accept it--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf


 * He looks chubby or something, its hard to explain but he doesn't look like Naruto, he lacks a neck (a lot of his Part I manga images, oddly enough, show him with aw thin neck, which the current image displays just fine). What you call "retarded" I call a focused look, which is fitting to his character, a random colored background from a flashback, which not only is bad, is incredibly out of place, and the quality of the image scene itself pales to what is currently being used.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~  13:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * oh well. this debate's going nowhere i suppose. well, ur reasons are valid, ultimate 3, so i'll let the matter rest now. but the picture IS something to think about. See if you can find anything that has the same determined expression yet meets the 'cool' thing that a lot of us are searching for. Like sasuke's current pic. I'll leave the choice to you, alright? end of debate! I don't want to hear about this again! :P--'''Wild WInd of the Leaf

New Pic and Edit needed
Shouldn't we get a picture of Naruto smashing Kisame into a wall? Oh, and also, in the "Taijutsu" section, it says "Naruto is able to counter a stream of punches and kicks from Deva Path." Notice that "The" is missing. From "the" Deva path. Can someone sort out this edit, and get the picture i suggested? Oh, and when will the fourth databook come out?--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * Not really necessary the image, "the" added, next databook should be around sometime next year. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:14, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * But doesn't the image demonstrate the speed and strength of kyubi mode? although i think that sage mode is the best, not many risks once mastered, unlike kyubi mode!--'''Wild Wind of the Leaf
 * There's a Nine-Tails mode image of Naruto just after, of him trying to make a Tailed-Beast Rasengan, which is also colored. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:19, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Candidate for Hokage?
In which episode/part of the Manga did it say that several villagers nominated him for Hokage? Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
 * He was never nominated in any way. There were a group of ninja talking and it was said that he should/would become Hokage. it was either in Ebisu's flashback during hi fight with Hell Realm of during the aftermath of Pain's Invasion--Cerez365 (talk) 02:16, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Chapter 455 in Samui's flashback a villager says that Naruto should be the new hokage, but he doesn't nominate him.--Deva 27 (talk) 02:19, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I must have misunderstood the part in his Abilities section where the villagers suggested him to become Hokage in Tsunade's place. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions
 * wait, if it suggests that to you when you read it then maybe it needs to be reworded...--Cerez365 (talk) 02:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It said in the section, " He was suggested to be Hokage in Tsunade's place by several villagers following Pain's invasion," even though it was one villager's opinion. I think it should be reworded a little. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Yin-Yang
Someone keeps roll-backing my edits whenever I put under Naruto's Chakra Nature Yin, Yang, Yin-Yang. Therefore, I'm here to discuss the change.

Anyway, I believe that we should add it due to the fact of Naruto's Shadow Clone Jutsu. Is that not a Yin-Yang related Jutsu?--Signature/Red Dog31 22:28, December 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not to our knowledge. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:33, December 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually it is.--Signature/Red Dog31 01:05, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. No official source has ever linked the Shadow Clone Technique to Yin or Yang chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but are you one of those crazed fans obsessed with the Franchise?--Signature/Red Dog31 04:58, December 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yin-yang chakra was first explained in any amount of detail 12 chapters ago. Nothing about a possible shadow clone-relation is suggested in those 12 chapters. One does not need to be "obsessed" to not pull facts from thin air. Rather, one needs to have read the series at any point in the last three months.
 * Perhaps you are simply confusing models for how shadow clones function with a yin-yang symbol? ~SnapperTo 05:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Chakra Reserves
I earnestly think this deserves its own section. This trait of Naruto's has been mentioned on several occasions, and is as big an aspect of Naruto's abilities as his Shadow Clones, Rasengan, and Jinchuuriki status. Despite what Ebiso said, Naruto's chakra doesn't stem from the Nine-Tailed Fox; if anything the Nine-Tails is a hindrance when it comes to Naruto's own chakra reserves. Naruto, without any influence from the Nine-Tails, has 100 times more chakra than Kakashi in Part II. Most of that chakra is used to suppress the Nine-Tails, and even then he has more than enough to equal four times Kakashi's chakra levels. With the fact that Naruto's own chakra is used to suppress the Nine-Tailed Fox- which even at 50% (as it is now) is immensely powerful- taken into account, this is certainly a notable trait of Naruto's, and certainly a big enough aspect of his abilities that it deserves its own section.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 20:35, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * What Ebisu said is that because Naruto's chakra suppressing most of the Nine-Tails' Naruto has bad chakra control. The part two thing about Kakashi, the 100x is with the Nine-Tails, not without. You're mixing things up. Remember, that what Naruto's chakra suppress for most of his life was only the chakra that would leak from the seal, which is hardly all of the Yang chakra of the Nine-Tails in him. The seal getting weaker is precisely one of the reasons Naruto in Part II begins to tap into more of the Nine-Tails' chakra, reaching more tails each time. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:48, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * We understand that he does but the fact of the matter is that other people have large chakra reserves as well. A section of this alone would be a one liner and 5 examples is unnecessary in my opinion. If you mention it in the article if it already isn't is then you can add a one or two lines on the matter. Also what do you mean by was an aspect of his Jinchūriki status? --Cerez365 (talk) 20:49, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mispelling. And while the Ebisu one may be legitimate, as one who just saw the episode where Kakashi said that Naruto has 100 times more chakra than him without the Nine-Tails Fox, I can assure you I'm not mixing things up. And I'm not referring to his jinchuuriki in this; the fact is that Naruto has immense chakra on his own, without the Nine-Tails. Naruto's own chakra, all naturale, no Nine-Tails. And yes, other people have large amounts of chakra, but so far very few of them have Naruto's sheer level of NATURAL chakra. In addition, Naruto's incredible levels of chakra, as said before, is a very big aspect of his capabilities, just as important and relevant as the Shadow Clone technique and the Rasengan.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 21:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * And I just read all the scanlations of chapter 315 I could find, all of them refer to Naruto having 100x Kakashi's chakra if Yamato doesn't suppress the Nine-Tails. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:14, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Scanlations, maybe. But I'll go with official translation over scanlations, which can and have made mistakes.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 21:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Official translations say the same thing as scanlations.
 * The fact remains that you are dedicating a section to something that needs one, maybe two sentences. The various examples used can easily be converted to refs. ~SnapperTo 21:29, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's true. Watch crunchyroll's version of shippuden episode 55, circa 19:00. Crunchyroll is the most official English translation of the anime I have access to. I don't know if the dubbed anime uses the same terms. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:35, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Official translations can make mistakes as easily as scanlations, really. That aside, the raw says that Naruto has four times as much chakra as Kakashi and a hundred times as much if Yamato isn't restraining the Kyūbi. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:57, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Viz's manga translation says the same (which is the "official translation" I was referring to). ~SnapperTo 22:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I do remember the original Weekly Shōnen Jump chapters saying something differently than the subsequent volume releases, though... —ShounenSuki (talk 22:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

So back to the main issue does all of this warrant it's own section in Naruto's article? --Cerez365 (talk) 22:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can people please not put indents in front of my comments? I simply don't do that, and someone else doing it makes it feel like someone's editing my messages.
 * For translations, I'm referring to several proffessionals who translate the language, then release it for the hundred of thousands to watch; scanlations, on the other hand, have no such proffessional background, and make many literary mistakes and mistranslations. I'll go by the official translation personally, due to credibility.
 * If you want to go by sentences "needed" to describe stuff, then all the other sections in Naruto's abilities can be summed up in 2-3 sentences as well. I fail to see how the detail I gave, including actual examples to varify, are any different.--Kagi mizu -Seeya 'round 23:01, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well Kozo, since you don't do it you need to start because no one is going to read your jumbled up epistles otherwise. Also, i can't help but feel you're straying from the point; we're supposed to be deciding whether or not to add an entire section on it or not.--Cerez365 (talk) 23:09, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Kozo is a new one. Second, my comments aren't "jumbled". Third, I think that, as his amount of chakra is a big aspect of Naruto as both a character and his combat abilities, I think it deserves its own section detailing its sheer amount and his capabilities with it, not as a jinchuuriki, but as his own person.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 23:21, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indenting is there to make a conversation more readable and more easy to follow. It isn't a personal choice, it's a show of respect towards the other users.
 * That said, although NAruto's chakra capacity should, of course, be mentioned, I don't think it warrants its own section. There simply isn't enough to say about it without needlessly stretching it. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was able to make it long enough to justify its own section, without "needlessly stretching it".--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 23:34, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * actually you did. So just add a 2-3 sentences which should include a reference if any to his abilities section and we're done here--Cerez365 (talk) 23:41, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Most of what you said about his chakra is already explained in his jinchuriki section, which mentions his naturally big chakra reserve and builds up on it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * His natural chakra capacity could probably be seperated from the Jinchuuriki section, cause otherwise that's not giving Naruto enough credit.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 00:11, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I got the exact episode where it was said Naruto himself has 100x Kakashi's chakra if he weren't suppressing the Nine-Tailed Fox: Wind.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 16:52, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * We already knew that. ~SnapperTo 17:04, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 01:52, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

whats going on
I dont know if it is just me but the pictures arent showing. Pictures only show a link to an image. NAruto young for example, i cant see it but when i click it, it shows it. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 18:07, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see them just fine. Try clearing your browser's history and cache and it should work. -- Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 18:10, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Their working now. It had nothing to do with that but thanks for the sugestion Fmakck. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 21:44, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * That happens with wikia from time to time. Sometime images don't show up, and sometime they only show up for certain users. ~SnapperTo 21:50, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yang Release
Should we list Naruto as being able to use Yang release for his Nine-Tails mode? I understand that its origin is the Kyuubi's yang chakra, but he is able to use it and manipulate it through the Tailed Beast Chakra Arms and such. What do you think? Timeel39 (talk) 19:34, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * No it's a jinchūriki skill --Cerez365 (talk) 19:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing we know with enough clarity at the moment, and therefore something we can actually list, is that the Izanagi is derived from an ability the Sage of the Six Paths had, which uses Yin-Yang Release. Ergo, the only thing good enough to be listed is that Izanagi is Yin-Yang Release, and that its users can use Yin, Yang and Yin-Yang. We don't know exactly what constitutes a Yang Release technique or ability, so we don't list it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:42, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Generic Sealing Technique
When does he use it, it says Jiraiya taught him in the article. I don't want a revert war so I want to get my facts straight. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 22:04, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * When Naruto, Kakashi, Sakura, and Chiyo first encounter Deidera and Sasori. Enraged by how they're treating the (then deceased) Gaara, Naruto uses the Generic Sealing Technique to summon a large shuriken in an attempt to attack them.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round  16:51, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * i was under the impression that this was a general shinobi skill--Cerez365 (talk) 17:06, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Rate
I dont know if i missed it but i dont see any mentioning of narutos growth rate. If im not mistaken that is the ability that most people praise and fear. --Rigoberto60 (talk) 20:24, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's an entire section showing how much Naruto improved over the series. And there are also mentions of him using shadow clones to learn faster. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:38, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Something's not right
Is there something wrong with Naruto Wiki? I just saw that Naruto is his own nephew in the family page and most of his jutsu is gone... Sparxs77 (talk) 06:49, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's an infobox bug, currently happening to all characters with more than one listed parent. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:27, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ya and why are a lot of the characters missing jutsu in their info-box, i first realized it in kakashi, then danzo, and now noruto is missing some. --Sauske-Blaze (talk) 13:10, January 23, 2011 (UTC)Sauske-Blaze
 * It's an infobox bug. . .--Cerez365 (talk) 13:28, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Naruto altered by the Ninetails at birth?
I feel it worth mentioning Naruto was born with his whisker marks - a trait that actually marks Kinkaku and Ginkaku as having chakra like that of the Ninetails' - before the fox is actually sealed into him. Could this mean that Naruto was changed by the Ninetails' power even at birth? That may explain the fact that, even without the help of the Ninetails, Naruto has an abnormally large supply of chakra.


 * It is mentioned already. Naruto's stamina is an Uzumaki trait. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:30, February 22, 2011 (UTC)