Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25075055-20140331114355/@comment-1207741-20140406200331

Speysider wrote: Please stop bringing up the number of visitors we get every week, that has little substance in this discussion and can be manipulated very easily Again, I'm not the person who voiced concern about the wiki's lack of visitors.

Speysider wrote: concentrate on the precious mainspace edits that they think are more important Your dismissiveness there is interesting. Because you seem to be scoffing at the only thing this wiki has that all the other Naruto websites don't: information. Which I should hope is not your true feeling.

Speysider wrote: I feel sorry that the few people who absolutely refuse discussion about Naruto on these forums have to just rehash themselves without providing much evidence other than "I don't want it", which is just a personal opinion and not a real reason. I'm not seeing a lot of objective evidence from the opposing side, either. I see the word "asinine" thrown around a lot, though.

Speysider wrote: No there isn't. Narutopedia is a resource. If this was a community, people would be allowed to post discussions about the series here, but they can't.
 * com•mu•ni•ty [kuh-myoo-ni-tee]
 * noun
 * a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists

Is the wiki, in its current form, not a group of individuals sharing common interests that perceive themselves as distinct from the larger society?

Speysider wrote: The funny thing is that my notion of what a community should be is what the rest of the internet considers to be a community. *cough*Wookieepedia*cough*

And you absolutely do not want to be using "the rest of the internet" as an argument. Because then you're going to have to undermine yourself with a bunch of exceptions about what "the rest of the internet" does but this wiki should not. Speysider wrote: I'm pretty sure that if I asked Wikia their views on this, they would agree that this isn't a community. It was around the fifth time you said that when I wondered why you don't just do so.

Lest I be pigeonholed into the opposition, I'll restate my positions:
 * I believe a freer atmosphere to ask questions would be useful for this wiki.
 * That Naruto Answers had to be created so that people could do this is shameful.
 * I could be persuaded that discussions where some aspect of the series is proposed/argued over/analyzed deeply have value, to a point at least.
 * I consider weekly topics where people swap opinions about the newest chapter/episode/movie/game/whatever to be worthless.
 * This seems to be what many of the people opposed are railing against and, unfortunately, also what several people in favor seem to chiefly want.
 * Which leaves me to wonder if blogs would not be the better compromise. Blogs by their nature specialize in useless opinions and, being a separate namespace, can be ignored without fear that something of actual merit to the wiki as a whole will be overlooked.