Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-6769189-20200705100921/@comment-6769189-20200709195655

MindForged wrote: LegionZero wrote: I never said they didnt. What they didnt habe was 6 Paths Senjutsu

You said this in OP: You should give it a more careful read. I said they didnt have 6 Paths Senjutsu. Not that they didnt have 6 Paths Chakra

MindForged wrote:

Which isn't true, since at the very least Hamura is not known to have had Sage Mode at all, only Six Paths chakra (at least before he had the Tenseigan Mode thing). And the brothers sealed away Kaguya using the Six Paths powers, not Six Paths Senjutsu. You were equating Six Paths and Six Paths Senjutsu there, which is why I said that. According to the databook in order to get TSB one must have 6 Paths Senjutsu.

MindForged wrote:

Clearly that isn't the case since the brothers lacked any powers of Senjutsu yet had a mastery of all the elements. The databook disagrees with you.

MindForged wrote:

Anime is non-canon. It was still an ability he had to learn, not one he was born with.

Use your head. This is even evidenced in the manga. Simply having the Rinnegan made Nagato, who is entirely inferior with the Rinnegan, mastered the elements in, what, a year? The anime simply makes this explicit. Yet, Nagato (nor Hagoromo, pre-Jinchuriki) was not a Senjutsu user at all. The anime still isnt canon. Rinnegan has nothing to do with learning senjutsu

MindForged wrote:

...By giving him Six Paths chakra. Naruto already had the other necessary component: Sage Mode. Hence why Sasuke didn't and couldn't receive the same power. My point was this had nothing to do with Gedo Mazo not being in Naruto, and everything to do with Naruto being given the actual power he needed to compete with Madara/Kaguya: the power of the Six Paths. Again the databook disagrees with you. It very explicitly states that SPSM came from Hagoromo, not 6 Paths chakra.

Also having 6 Paths Chakra and Senjutsu doesnt automatically grant 6 Paths Senjutsu.

Madara stole Hashirama's Sage Mode and didnt achieve SPS even though he had 6 Paths chakra

Naruto is capable of using his regular Sage Mode still, so SPSM is a different ability altogether not achieved by simply entering Sage Mode while having 6 Paths Chakra

MindForged wrote:

Um, no. The databook explains this well. The Senju and Uchiha may have an inherent superiority towards Yang (Senju) or Yin (Uchiha), but neither clan actually uses them very often. Also, simply using Genjutsu or specializing in it doesn't negate the fact that we are told the clans inherit a talent for Yang in one case and Yin in the other. Hashirama has also used a high level Genjutsu, but that doesn't negate what I said. That isnt what it says though. It just says the Sharingan uses Genjutsu which is Yin release. It doesnt say anything about the Senju clan or Yang Release.

It actually cites the Akimichi clan as having prmarily Yang release