Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20160102030534/@comment-25442883-20160119134725

Just to be clear, i don't put Hiruzen like some do on pair with Hashi, i personally think that he was weaker than both Tobi and Minato besides Hashi, no matter what other would say.

It's just fascinating for me how he mastered all five basic nature transformations and actually was shown using them unlike let's say Kakashi. That's why I'm putting him on my list of top 3 without ANY kind of secret potential of power up.