Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-46817411-20200922223717

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: He didn't. It was a plot point that was changed, it was originally hinted at that Danzo was the one who did it using Shisui's eye and that Ao was the one who broke it. They ended up deciding that it wasn't Danzo who did it after they already made the choice otherwise Naruto and B would have been done for ages ago, same with every other enemy Obito had including Minato because if Obito could do that to a perfect Jin then there is ZERO way Minato for example could have won or survived. Also your logic doesn't work.. Hashirama and Tobirama trained Hiruzen and even groomed him to become Hokage, he may have surpassed Tobirama but do you think he surpassed Hashirama?? No. Madara has zero good Genjutsu feats, his speed isn't shown to be amazing either, and his taijutsu was against a whole bunch of fodder who were all struggling to fight white zetsu beforehand. Like I said before stop giving him feats he doesn't have. I'm going to be frank with you, your logic and your argument are trash. You need to do better than that.

To be completely honest, you're not even trying to make Itachi win, you're just trying to downplay Madara when he's clearly more powerful than almost everyone in the Narutoverse (Excluding Boruto ofc.) And bringing up points that aren't very relevant to the general topic.