Talk:Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path

Translation
I've been looking into the etymology for, and it's pretty interesting. It's strictly a Buddhist term, naturally. It's from the Chinese translation of the Sanskrit Tīrthika, which means "treading the outer path," specifically referring to someone who is walking a spiritual path towards enlightenment, but opposes Buddhist teachings (the "inner path"), and is basically going about it the wrong way.

A proper English translation of Tīrthika apparantly doesn't exist, and "heretic" carries a prejorative connotation that isn't really intended by the term, though it still seems to be the most common translation of both Gedō and Tīrthika, and I can't really come up with anything better, apart from Tīrthika itself.

Also interesting, is the same as the Chinese term for golem, though it's not used in Japanese to my knowledge. Regardless, I think "Demonic Statue" or "Demon Statue" conveys the meaning just fine.

I think I'll add a simple "influences" section to this and the "Shinra Bansho" techniques to explain the Buddhist referances in their names, like with the Six Paths of Pain. FF-Suzaku (talk) 00:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

This is what i find out about peins summoning statue Heretical Doctri, (Kuchiyose: Gedō Mazō). Gedo is related to buddhist pracitce gedo zen which means "Outside Way".In gedo zen, one's practice consist of prayer and attention to some entity or state of being which is related to one. Such practices might also involve the cultivation of various powers, in order to gain some control over the physics of day to day experience so that one can imagine oneself to be more "godlike." HUNTER* (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Kekkei genkai
Why is this jutsu regarded as Kekkei genkai?Wreiad (talk) 15:52, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sasuke
Was it explicitly said that Madara wants to sync Sasuke with the statue? If I remember correctly he just said he had to find someone else to replace Pain. I don't think he ever said Sasuke would be the one - actually it seems he has other plans for Sasuke. If I'm wrong, and Madara did say that, can someone direct me to the Manga chapter confirms this? Kjammer (talk) 05:22, May 30, 2010 (UTC)