Board Thread:Boruto Discussions/@comment-5085906-20170430152255/@comment-4961229-20170506233844

Thekillman wrote: Since the Uzumaki clan itself is wiped out, individuals are extremely rare, and only made Jinchuriki in the case of the Leaf, it's not strange that characters thought that. Plus, there have only been a few generations of Jinchuriki and very very few ninja have the ability to reseal a Biju in the field. IE the Hidden Cloud had to first seal the Biju in the sealing pot before they could reseal it. The Hidden Sand also had a sealing tool. This does not apply to Kushina who had the jutsu for resealing the Kyuubi immediately, yet somehow figured she'd die anyway. This despite having been instructed on Jinchuuriki matters by Mito Uzumaki. Your argument doesn't hold water. Thekillman wrote: Considering that the Village was under attack and Kurama was wrecking havoc, i'm not sure what medical assistance he could've rendered his wife in the time provided, especially since Kurama was under Obito's control. Just bringing her to the hospital would put her at risk of being crushed or Nuked. Not to mention that he had no idea of the scope of the attack and taking out the medics is a basic tactic. He tried to stop Kurama and was then attack by Obito. After defeating Obito he still had to bring Kurama under control before being able to reseal him. At that point she was past the point of no return, especially since she also had to bind Kurama. He's not a medical nin. He wouldn't render any medical assistance. He is a teleporter. He would do what any father does and rush his wife to the hospital or suitable medical nin to where he left her, which he can do in certainly much less time than Gaara spent flying around retrieving Sakura and then flying to go get Minato, plus the time it took to get the Kyuubi to Naruto in Kamuiland.

Show me where a hospital was crushed. Show me where Obito used the tactic of taking out medical nins or the Kyuubi used tactics at all? You can't; it never happened, so it's irrelevant who may have used such tactics in the history of the Narutoverse. The point of no return is death. That's the only point of no return shown in the manga. Anything else you're claiming is headcanon. Thekillman wrote: Thirdly, as shown by Kishimoto, the Leaf itself is very secretive of it's Jinchuriki and they do not use them as weapons, contrary to every other village. The Kurama jinchuriki solely exist as jailors of the beast. Minato's greatest legacy was the creation of a seal that would allow Naruto to gradually adapt to Kurama's chakra and so become the first weaponized Jinchuriki. Your point? Thekillman wrote: Even if people were aware of the possibility of resealing, in the vast majority of cases the beast would be unsealed because the Jinchuriki was losing control and so they first would have to put it back under control, which means that even if everyone used Uzumaki they'd still not get the beast back in time. The time limit to reseal the bijuu is only until the Jinchuuriki dies from the extraction. We know this is the case because Naruto was in as bad a shape as most Jinchuuriki's after extraction and was saved. Kushina was in much better shape than anybody except Obito and Rikudou Sennin, each of whom made it to Rikudou level sooooo... kind means they're in a class by themselves. There was no other "point of no return." Any such time limit to reseal the bijuu, besides the Jinchuuriki being dead already, that you've cooked up in your headcanon is nonsense. Thekillman wrote: EDIT: I forgot to mention: Luke wasn't considered Leia's brother until revealed. Darth Vader wasn't his father until revealed. Etc etc etc. It's called a reveal. It would only be a proper retcon if we'd seen an Uzumaki jinchuriki die upon Biju extraction. Pretty much all good stories have established rules that eventually find some exception. Remember "perfect jutsu with no weakness" Edo Tensei? Questions about Luke's parentage hung in the air from Obi Wan's obvious vagueness of the issue. The comparison between Luke and Vader were made by multiple characters throughout. "He has too much of his father in him." "That's what I'm afraid of." It was a well executed reveal with subtle foreshadowing, unlike the kind we find in Naruto. However, if we'd have been shown Luke's daddy. Pics of Luke as a baby with every indication this other guy was his daddy and then suddenly with no foreshadowing Vader was his daddy, it would've been just as retarded a retcon as we have when we see Jinchuuriki's dropping dead from extraction and Kushina about to drop dead from extraction with no attempt to save her, yet Naruto being saved.

There was no reveal here. It wasn't even handled the way a reveal would be. If Kishi had intended it as a reveal he would've handled it with massive foreshadowing, like he handled every other reveal in the series. A reveal was the Flash finding out on TV Tuesday that Savitar was him in the armor. Or Obito is Tobi is not Madara was a reveal. This was not a reveal at all; it was a retcon. Two totally different plot devices.

Kushina was an Uzumaki. She died. No one even tried to save her, despite Minato retrieving her immediately upon extraction, therefore up to that point it was impossible to save her. Naruto was in much worse shape than Kushina. He was unconscious. His heart stopped and he had to be fucking heart massaged back to life. Kushina was never unconscious and still had enough chakra to put up a barrier and reseal the Kyuubi. How much chakra did Naruto have when his heart stopped?

'''Kishi has said he makes shit up as he goes along. I think this time we should believe him.'''