Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181126060416

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Goodness. The proof kakashi didn't follow it is that he was SURPRISED. Do you not see the huge exclamation points in his chat box? Kakashi knowing that the clone was the one next to kurenai happened after the fact, and that wasn't necessarily even because he saw it, it could have been instinct or experience. Why is there a clone standing with it's back turned to kurenai while there is another itachi a safe distance away? It's a trap. Furthermore, not more than seconds later, the clone exploded. For all we know kakashi saw the build up of explosive chakra in itachi's body using the sharingan and any one with a brain can tell that that is the faux itachi.

Chapter 580 pg 12.

Where did itachi's crow clone come from? when did he substitute with it? why didn't kabuto see it when he is watching itachi and stabbing him with a sword? why didn't sasuke see this either? If he saw it he wouldn't have concern expressed on his face. one has sage mode, another has the EMS. orochimaru, konan, and kimimaro aren't tracking itachi if sasuke and kabuto can't.

Chapter 586 pg 5, this is the last time he does it in the real world. Though there is steam, he still does the same thing. Kabuto is a sensor type so he should still be able to notice if there is more than one itachi. The fact that he didn't shows itachi is just too fast with his clone+ substitution technique.

I don't know if it's safe to include the feats that happened inside the actual izanami genjutsu, but still, it's all similar enough to what he has already done in the real world that it can be taken as more feats.

2) You are forgetting a big detail, orochimaru was still apart of sasuke's body. the fact that sasuke wasn't sealed proves that the totsuka blade must stab each individual directly in order for them to be sealed away. Itachi only stabbed the final snake and orochimaru, so they were sealed but sasuke was just fine. He didn't seal the other snakes because he wasn't sure if the real orochimaru was available yet. once the real orochimaru was in play he sealed him and that was that. if he tried to seal all the 8 snakes from the beginning there is no guarantee he would have sealed the actual orochimaru, and if you haven't noticed, totsuka blade has a cool down time when it absorbs targets. He wanted to make sure he tagged orochimaru first before risking that. The reference you gave doesn't debunk what I said. If orochimaru is completely one with the snakes, then why is he coming out of it's throat as a separate entity? why is itachi waiting for orochimaru to appear? Furthermore, you can clearly see on Chapter 393 pg 1 that one of orochimaru's snakes fell off and escaped, and it later died to amaterasu, so debunked. Sealing the snakes and sealing orochimaru aren't the same thing. that same snake was attached to orochimaru and his other snake yet it fell off and escaped. Therefore, if itachi tried to stab the one of the 8 branch snakes, only one would be sealed per stab, and then itachi has to wait for the gourd to finish absorbing that snake before he can use the blade again. and that's a waste of itachi's stamina and time. That's why he decapitated them quickly so that orochimaru would be forced to reveal himself as soon as possible.

3) Kabuto explicitly stated itachi couldn't avoid the muki tensei because his focus was on protecting sasuke. there is NO sasuke to distract itachi here, smh.

Kimimaro doesn't get kakashi's feat just because. Versus kakashi, there was a huge smokescreen and then kakashi used his doton technique and some of the events happened off panel. Itachi didn't say anything about having trouble reacting to kakashi's uppercut. what he did say is it took him a while to notice that kakashi made a shadow clone instead when he hid with dolton, and that was why his genjutsu wasn't working. Those are two completely different things.

lol wait so now it's not that rock lee couldn't react or move fast enough, it's just that he can't jump high enough? and yes itachi can jump high enough. He jumped from the ground to Nagato's bird. Gaara literally only flew to tree height level as shown on chapter 217 pg 10. look at Rock's lee head relative to the trees. Itachi easily matched that here on Chapter 549 pg 16 when he jumped onto nagato's bird. . ITachi can simply use chakra walking and stand on a stalk. and hop from bone to bone. Worst case scenario he can have his susano'o arm grab him until he can find stable footing. susano'o has blades that can cut the bones and make them more suitable for standing on. susano'o literally has 4 arms that it can use to get the job done. The bones are literally only as tall as relatively tall trees. even when amplified by sage mode, the bones weren't extraordinally tall