Talk:Head Ninja of Kumogakure

Raikage
Head ninja is kage right? then if head ninja is a kage then that means Hiashi Hyuga is stronger then a kage? Simant (talk) 23:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope, from what I can gather, he's somewhere between Jonin and Kage. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Kumogakure. ~SnapperTo 03:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd say he holds a similar rank to Shikaku Nara as Jonin Commander Bladeedalb (talk) 22:32, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Position
I think he is same position as Yura of Sungakure, remember chyo said it youra was leader of some sort in Sungakure and killing him self of work being a leader, so maybe this guy was same as Yura, just Yura showed formidable taijutsu skills, but this guy looks to me more like long rage fighter and weak in taijutsu, also his apearence show that he has maybe a many injury due to a bandages on head and probably no right eye...But that is a teory...178.222.7.203 (talk) 21:10, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Aperently Gashira is an oficer in japanese crime organisation Yakuza, he is right under the leader of Yakuza clan, see here http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shatei_gashira I also found somewhere that Gashira were heads or ministers of diferent departments in Japan in old days...YamatoTakeru (talk) 19:47, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yūra would hold the same position in his village as Homura and Koharu does in Konoha. This shinobi would be on the same level as Shikaku Nara, not them. I'm not sure what Gashira has to do with this...--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:56, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well Darui is proof enough how Head ninja position is maybe just made for story of Hyuga incident...YamatoTakeru (talk) 15:33, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * How so? Darui might be the Raikage's right hand man, but that doesn't mean he's the one to represent Kumogakure in diplomatic meetings. Team Samui is closer to that than he is. There's also the unlikely possibility that the position has been voided since then. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:08, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

A diferent opinion, I guess, but all opinions without any solide proof from manga, only speculations... Zabuza first was leader of killer squad, now in WW3 he is shinobigatana... How Kishi changes things in manner with situation YamatoTakeru (talk) 13:03, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Zabuza was the first what o.O And how is he a shinobigatana (ninja sword?)--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:26, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think what YamatoTakeru means is that when he was introduced, Zabuza was just the leader of a killer squad but as of WW4 he is stated as being one of the 7 swordsmen of the hidden mist. If that is what Takeru meant then he's obviously wrong as Zabuza was said to be one of the seven swordsmen from the moment he was introduced. I don't get what Takeru means by "Kishi changes things in manner with situation", if it means what I think then I disagree. Kishimoto has done a decent job of being consistent. He generally doesn't just pull things out of nowhere.--Soul reaper (talk) 13:50, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Kishi made major things like villages, the fox and kages from begining,and than he made some extra things like gashira, to spice the story, but as story goes, some things need to be fixed and adopted to fit into curent situation...You really think he had Tobi or Obito in his mind from chapetr one of manga...YamatoTakeru (talk) 20:24, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your train of thought. Everything else is your assumption that Kishimoto just simply added them impromptu, when naturally as a story progresses the writer will want to add more things to his or her story. It seems like you have something against Kishimoto or something.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 22:09, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Zabuza was mentioned as a Swordsmen of the Mist way before the current war. At least as early as Kisame's introduction, maybe as early as his own introduction. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:48, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, your wrong, don't have anything against the guy, best guy I ever heard bout. There are so many people around world and in my country that deserve to be hated and despised for what they doing (Kishimoto's work is good and nice), and honestly if Kishimoto were book writer, he wold be in top rank deserving Nobel prize, if Nobel prize as corrupted as it is is decent enough to measure of high qualities of Kishimoto...But we are not discusing me or Kishimoto, we are discusing Gashira or whatever he is...YamatoTakeru (talk) 14:49, October 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait, so if I understand what you're saying. This guy, and his position (Gashira as you called it) is beneath the Raikage and above the Jonin (if we go with this Yakuza theme they would be Kyodai) and is responsible for making sure the Jonin perform their duties. Is that what you're getting at? I really have no idea--Soul reaper (talk) 15:17, October 10, 2012 (UTC)