Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26773508-20151025153924

Minato 87 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Perfect Susanoo is made of pure chakra. I highly doubt chakra can be sealed by the Sword of Totsuka into an "eternal, blissful genjutsu". How the hell will PS fall for a genjutsu when PS isn't a sentient being with consciousness? So no, Itachi doesn't beat EMS Madara. "It is an ethereal weapon with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces"(http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_of_Totsuka). But can the Sword of Totsuka really seal a mass of chakra that is not conscious? Edo Itachi could have used the Sword of Totsuka to seal the black chakra mass of Nagato's Chibaku Tensei instead of relying on Bee and Naruto. Either way, Kishi gets the final say on this. And since he hasn't specified whether Totsuka can seal something like PS or not, it's best to bury the topic here as it could once again go wayy off-topic like my previous comments did.

Minato 87 wrote: Itachi can beat pre-SM Jiraiya with Tsukuyomi. But if he uses Tsukuyomi on SM Jiraiya, Ma and Pa will attack him. Jiraiya is fast enough to dodge Amaterasu, and if Itachi uses Susanoo Jiraiya will use sound genjutsu (SM Jiraiya is much faster than Susanoo and he can dodge Sword of Totsuka). Itachi can try to attack Ma and Pa to stop the genjutsu. If he can stop the genjutsu Ma and Pa won't be able to repeat this genjutsu. Really interesting battle. Agreed that SM Jiraiya is a formidable foe and can beat Itachi. The main problem is it takes quite some time for Jiraiya to go to SM, which is quite a problem for Jiraiya.