Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31338621-20190129080042/@comment-31338621-20190201234645

Mr. Grave wrote: ^Sure, you can deny anything if you really want to, I guess.

But have you SEEN the manga panels you're citing? In one panel, Raikage's fist is shown to be quite close to Minato's face while the latter's holding a marked kunai in his right hand. In the second panel, the fist inches closer. In the third panel, Minato teleports to a tree he had marked previously but there's no marked kunai in his right hand. In the fourth panel, we see that same kunai a little past the Raikage's shoulder. So, no, there's no way he could have flicked it BEFORE the Raikage got close. Same with the Rasengan. The final clash with Tobi happened in a few seconds and we clearly see in one panel that Minato's hand is empty as he prepares to throw the kunai. And then he conjures a Rasengan in one of the subsequent panels. So, no, he didn't conjure it BEFORE they ran at each other, unless you're saying he kept it in his pocket or...whatever.

Also, Minato started weaving his signs the minute Kyuubi began to power up his bijuudama, and then he fired it immediately in the next panel so that was still pretty fast. I mean, the Bijuudama is a technique that can cross borders in seconds, so being able to stop it in such a short distance like Minato did still counts as a speed feat.

But sure, let's go with your theory. Nevermind the fact that Shee clearly stated that Ay had reached physical parameters and reflexes comparable to Minato's AFTER the former entered his LR Chakra Mode, a mode which managed to bypass even the Sharingan's visual prowess. Or the fact that Tobirama himself, who was renowned as the fastest shinobi of his time, admitted that his body flicker pales in comparison to Minato's. When I said Minato could of thrown the kunai so close to his face, I was referring to Minato being able to throw the kunai before Raikage was an inch before his face. If you look there's a panel before that, where Raikage is about 6 inches from Minato's face, but Minato still had his kunai in his hand. Sometime in between the panel where Raikage is 6 in and 1 in from Minato's face he could flicked the kunai.

Minato could have been finished with his handseals for guiding thunder, when the Kyuubi was powering up.

No Cee said that Raikage and Minato's nerve transmission were equal before the Lightning Release Chakra Mode. You can tell that Cee is talking about before the Chakra Mode, because after he said raikage and Minato had the same nerve transmission, he said "but, Raikage has manipulated his chakra to augment his reflexes..."