Talk:Sasuke Uchiha

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Hebi Hakase...again
I know that the proposal to list his nickname "Doctor Snake" (or however you want to translate it) was rejected a long time ago, but I just want to ask why exactly. Sure, it was used for only a short time but nevertheless, I think it should be listed. It's the same as "Konoha's Orange Hokage" in Naruto's infobox. If I am not mistaken, that was only used once by Naruto himself. If that is legit enough to be listed, why not this here too?Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 15:39, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump.Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 10:41, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump...Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 10:51, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I find the nickname to be rather silly and rather non all-encompasing of Sasuke's character, but whatever, for me, just get the correct nickname from the raw. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:36, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Someone already translated it. They said "snake expert" not doctor snake.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:40, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Well yeah, it all means the same, basically. And "silly" or not, he got called like that and again, if we have "Konoha's Orange Hokage", there is no reason to not have this too.Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 16:21, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * The word "snake expert" is no different than saying Tobirama was the fastest shinobi. Naruto's moniker came from Kushina literally saying what does Konoha's Yellow Flash and the Red Hot Blooded Habanero make? One is not a moniker, the other is. Granted I don't think the infobox is appropriate for it but snake expert I'm sure shouldn't be there at all.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:15, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree. "Fastest shinobi" is more like a reference/description of Tobirama's abilities while a tile like "Konoha's Yellow Flash" is a clear moniker which was developed from Minato's signature ability. It's just like Danzo's "The Darkness of the Shinobi", it's a tile which is adjusted to his personality/actions. "Snake expert" is not different, it derived from Sasuke's knowledge about snakes, hence an ability that he showed and that was enough to move Itachi to call him like that. It's not like he said "man, you are an expert about snakes I see" or anything like that, he invented the name on the spot (like here), given the appropriate foundation.Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 17:37, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 11:53, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 11:27, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Still bumping...Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 16:42, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Dead
Should it be alright to list him as deceased? He IS technically dead, since Karin can't sense him, even if it isn't a permanent thing. --Mandon (talk) 06:12, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Chakra can't be sensed = dead, yes.--Elveonora (talk) 10:41, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * By Salazar if only. Either way I guess he's dead, two people said they can't sense his chakra, and we at least got a picture of him laying down in a pool of failure blood. I say he's dead until proven otherwise. (Just a random comment: Anyone else find it hilarious that after all the crap that he has pulled so far, he always ends up getting owned in the most laughable way possible?)--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 15:04, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's called plot, sadly.--Elveonora (talk) 15:10, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Being dead doesn't mean he'll stay dead, it just means he's dead as of right now. Didn't we do the same with Kakashi? --Mandon (talk) 17:49, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify it, chakra comes from the heart from what I remember, remember when Kabuto almost killed Naruto?? Everything was shutting down including his chakra as his heart started to slow down. So right now Naruto and Sasuke are both dead because both of their hearts stopped beating. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:14, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey everyone, I'm new to the wikia and the series and decided to start reading from chapter 663. Could someone please explain to me where it says that Sasuke is dead?--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 01:25, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

If he was alive then Karin would be able to sense his chakra. When Kakashi died Naruto couldn't sense him either. Same situation. There's no evidence suggesting he's alive, so we should consider him dead until proven otherwise. --Mandon (talk) 03:14, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * If memory serves correctly. Karin couldn't sense Zetsu's chakra either and he wasn't dead. In a case like this, especially with a main character we should wait. I've neutralized the article by removing the status altogether. We need to organize ourselves and not run around like the other headless Naruto fans.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 03:48, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe Tobirama may revive him with that soul-transferring kinjutsu later, maybe that mysterious figure would revive him, maybe Karin would make it there to do something. But for now, neither Karin nor Tobirama could feel his chakra anymore, meaning Sasuke is dead. Madara died, and was listed deceased until his revival, so we really should put Sasuke deceased for now. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 03:50, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Zetsu isn't a human, Cerez, so that doesn't count. On the other hand, it's hard to use Madara as an argument as well. We knew he was definitively dead since he was revived as an edo. Even though the evidence makes me 99.9% sure Sasuke is dead, it isn't as closed/shut as Madara's case was. --Mandon (talk) 05:54, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

hebi
before taka sasuke formed hebi. can you please edit that so that the information can be correct please
 * I'm pleased to be of assistance, but please, don't say please twice please and please, show me what and where should be changed and sign your posts in the future please. I'm honored to make your acquaintance... looking forward to our cooperation.--Elveonora (talk) 15:08, February 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hebi → Taka--~Ultimate Supreme  15:50, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe he gets that part, that's why I'm unsure what correction if any the article needs in regards to that. EDIT: oh you mean he thought them as a single article to be mistake?--Elveonora (talk) 16:01, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Wood Release?
I'm not sure if it's a mistranslation or not, but is Kabuto pumping Sasuke full of Senju genes? If he is then should we list him as having Wood Release? We did the same for Orochimaru. --Mandon (talk) 07:14, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * For Orochimaru, we listed him as a Wood Release user because he's now inhabitating a Zetsu clone body, which was clearly stated to have Hashirama's Wood Release, albeit on a weaker scale. In Sasuke's case, we still don't know what Kabuto is exactly doing. Even having Jūgo's flesh put into his body didn't enable Sasuke to use Sage Transformation, right? So I think it's better to wait for further information.--JOA20 (talk) 07:18, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a very valid point. Despite Jugo transferring his flesh and chakra into Sasuke, he didn't get his powers. So I guess it's not guaranteed that even if Sasuke gets Hash cells that he will be able to use Wood Release.--Elveonora (talk) 17:09, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Danzo got his cells, he used wood release but sucked at it and couldn't control it well. He may or may not have it, we can't say for sure yet until shown otherwise. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:55, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

To be fair about this, one person has had Jugo's flesh infused to him and gained no ability, but even saying that, the reason Jugo could do that with Sasuke was due to his compatibility with the Curse Mark, which is basically artificially granting someone his ability in some form. On the other hand, five people (Not including Zetsus) have had Hashirama's cells successfully infused and all have the capacity to use Wood Release now. Assuming this transfusion of cells is "Successful", Sasuke should be able to use it, but since this procedure isn't even complete yet, we can probably hold off on drawing any conclusions. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 08:01, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke personality, by Kishimoto.
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/02/masashi-kishimoto-spends-135-minutes-per-naruto-page/ Read the parts about Sasuke. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:53, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the personality section needs a clean-up anyway as it more or less tells us his history too... Noweeaboohoo (talk) 22:00, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed in the personality sections, people added a lot of history and extra stuff for a lot of characters... when all we really need is the straight forward personality info, just with references links to show what we mean. As spelling out every single detail is tedious and unnecessary. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:47, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * How is his personality section supposed to reliably show how he is without interactions with other characters? I know some people sometimes go overboard in detail, but that's why from time to time someone always trims growing sections. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:03, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

re-reading through chapters
Chapter 460 page 13 makes it quite obvious that Sasuke was actually using Samurai Saber Technique and not Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Chokuto from both the comments and its appearance. Why do people miss on details such like this? The anime team made him use the latter I believe, but then again, they didn't even get how the Samurai's technique works--Elveonora (talk) 12:58, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Why would a shinobi coating their weapon with chakra, be called Samurai Saber Technique Elveonora? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:32, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Same way a toad that isn't even a ninja can use ninjutsu. Also you are aware that the name isn't even official, aren't you?--Elveonora (talk) 13:44, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * … so samurai are ninja-animals now? If we had intended for shinobi to be added to that article, it wouldn't have been called Samurai Sabre Technique, they would've just been thrown under "chakra flow". What Sasuke is doing looks exactly like the Chidori Chokuto technique did, I believe someone even mentioned once that the frame has the sound effect for the Chidori.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:02, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Funny... according to this logic, if a samurai does "x" and says it's a technique, then it's a technique only for Samurai? Yet, when a ninja does the very same "x" it's not a technique for him, just chakra flow, because he is a ninja, not a samurai... makes perfect sense (sarcasm) if you can confirm the sound effect, I will shut up, but the chakra around his sword doesn't resemble lightning much in that frame--Elveonora (talk) 14:33, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just looked both at the manga and anime, and it's quite clear that he's channelling Chidori in both, meaning it's Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:54, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * It "doesn't resemble lightning much" any of the other times he uses it either (v Yamato, v B). Add that his chakra isn't being molded beyond the immediate coverage of the sword - which is pretty central to what the samurai do - and it isn't the same. ~SnapperTo 17:56, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Okay then. I just found the Samurai's comment fishy. Why would they even comment that it resembles their own technique, if it were something different? Surely not because he just channels chakra into a blade, ninja can do that, isn't that common knowledge? But I guess it was just Chidori indeed. Thanks for clarifying.--Elveonora (talk) 18:13, March 23, 2014 (UTC)