Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-3523655-20200819111339

LegionZero wrote: Even if we lowball and say there were only 10,000 ninja Naruto gave chakra too, the earth is only 6 times bigger than the moon. Naruto provided chakra equal to 300 times more ninja than needed to destroy the moon. And that is assuming all of those ninja had Kakashi levels of chakra and above. Oh and Naruto had chakra to spare after. This is such a boring way to see the manga, though.
 * The Moon's density is 60% of the Earth's.
 * The Moon's mass is 1.2% of the Earth's
 * The Moon's gravitational pull is 16.6% of Earth's
 * the Moon's diameter is roughly 25% that of Earths.

Like, it's because fans were doing this exact thing that Toriyama did away with the scouters in DBZ.

If you think that Kishimoto actually did these calculations you must be out of your mind.

You're applying too much logic and, like, maths... to a story about ninjas told through a visual medium.

If Kinshiki was as strong as Kaguya, we would've seen the level of destruction we saw with Kaguya. Simple as that.

It's not going "durrr, we didn't see it".

You're applying rational thinking to a series that doesn't have the decency to reciprocate the favor.

As an example I just re-watched The Last yesterday to refresh my memory about all this. And my only thought was "holy sh*t, why isn't Naruto using ANY of his chakra modes?" And he finally does so, at, like, the very end. If I'm using logic, Naruto is holding back. He has to be, right? He doesn't wanna damage the moon, he's afraid of the meteors crashing down on the Earth, he's concerned Hinata will be hurt if he goes all out.

Fact is, the writers and animators were holding the best for last for more drama and tension. It's that simple. They don't give an F that it doesn't make sense to not make use of literally ANY of the power-ups he has under his belt.

Recently, I was talking about the time-travel arc on Reddit. Jiraiya fight a goddamn Otsustsuki... LIVES... WITHOUT summoning any of his toads, doesn't use Sennin Mode, and furthermore, we don't see him reference Nagato in any way. Seems moronic to me.

And everyone jumped to defend this supposed 'jewel' of an arc, saying that "using Senjutsu would've taken too much time to get ready", "he probably said nothing about Nagato because he thought he was dead and neither Naruto nor Boruto know who he is", etc.

Everyone was applying logic and rational explanations to this, whereas in reality? The writers of the new series only give a crap about the original series at a surface-only level. You got Jiraiya? Few fire jutsu, some hair jutsu, boom, their job is done, apparently. Who cares about actually giving him accurate characterization, am I right? That's the extent of them caring. "Surface-level stuff only, the fans will take care of the rest and come up with some bs argument that'll justify us not doing our job right".

This is the same situation.

Kishi made an Otsutsuki with an impressive design: he's the muscle. He's the Nappa to Momoshiki's Vegeta. He uses chakra axes. And he gives Sasuke a run for his money, because we need an intimidating secondary villain.

That's it.

That is literally it.

That's the extent of the character development Kishi gave this big bulky bastard.

With the surface-level only trend that we saw displayed before and after the Boruto movie came out, you really think that Kishimoto stopped and thought about the ramifications of making a character this strong?

HELL no. He looked at it after the fact and went "oh well, if Naruto fought Toneri at age 19 and Toneri could split the moon in half and Naruto is now older and stronger and Kinshiki needs to be able to pressure Sasuke, I guess that means Kinshiki can blow up planets".

You tell me Momoshiki with Kinshiki absorbed can do it? I'll find it hard to believe, but hey, at least I saw him make a GIANT GOLEM that required Sasuke and Naruto to make an ARMORED GODDAMN KURAMA to take it down.

You tell me Kinshiki-got-his-ass-beat-by-the-goddamn-Tsuchikage-Otsutstuki is a planet buster?

Please.