Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3365837-20160805011327/@comment-25093611-20160809220244

^ah, now it makes more sense, but it seems like your entire argument is based on the assumption that kaguya is as fast or faster than madara in reaction time,

but i already said that this doesnt work, literally everything about them is different except for madara having the rinne-sharingan for 5 seconds, and than kaguya showed up who btw, never did a movement with her body that suprised naruto (at least not at the beginning, i looked at the first 2 chapters),

plus, madara has rinnegan/EMS/sharingan which is famous for precog abilitys while kaguya has the byakugan which is nice to see into every direction but doesnt help for precog-abilitys the way sharingan does, that is another factor that makes the scaling of madara and kaguya harder...

and i read the part with the clones again, she was able to stop two direct attacks thanks to them being totally obvious, than the third clone was already to much and she fled into her dimension, and any other comparison between them was thanks to her ninjutsu powers not her own body speed, all in all, i dont agree with a madara/kaguya scaling at all,

but to be honest, im sleepy and i really dont think this will be going anywhere, the scaling of madara to guy and naruto to kaguya is ok, but madara and kaguya are the parts i dont see a believable way for scalings, i guess this will be agree to disagree :/