Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32713358-20170729055604/@comment-25122992-20170730165313

Crazylazyguy wrote: And how did Itachi know this story in the first place? What? Obito told him? As far as we know Itachi made the entire thing up "The two brothers obtained the Mangekyou and became the leaders of the Uchiha clan", yeah right as far as I can remember only Madara was a leader, not both of them.

What story did Hashirama touch upon? Are we reading the same Manga? All Hashirama said, was that Madara "deeply cared for his brother", then a few episodes later he told Sasuke "you remind me of Madara's brother who he deeply cared about" and that's it. How is this even remotely close to Itachi's story, about "2 brothers raising in power and becoming leaders"? Well, it's not like Obito was the one misinformed here, since he likely got his own knowledge on Madara from Madara himself, but I severely doubt that Itachi didn't make his own research on Uchiha clan history, and Madara/Izuna were the crucial parts of it. Also, you've twisted Itachi's tale a bit, he said that both brothers rose to the power in the clan, and Madara became its head. Finally, you must cope with Madara's EMS design which consists of Madara's/Izuna's MS patterns combined. We've seen this design the first time during this very tale of Itachi, and despite the misconceptions it could've contained, Madara's EMS pattern proved to be the same he was shown using later on, then why must Izuna's pattern shown there as well be unexistent? You say, because Izuna has never shown with MS in action except for this tale? By that logic, Madara can be denied as MS user as well, since his usual MS has also never been shown in action besides Itachi's story.