Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-26773508-20150912031751

But the thing is 69 year old Hiruzen>>>>>>Karin, who did much more against Guruguru Tobi than Hiruzen. Kishi just fucked the characters real bad. Hiruzen could have solo'd Tobi with the help of Enma. But Kishi was in too much of a hurry to end the manga. But he could have at least shown a few panels of Hiruzen kicking Tobi and the Wood Buddha's ass at the very least, considering the fact that he went through the trouble of mentioning that Hiruzen surpassed Tobirama at a young age in DB4. So many charactets' reputations got butchered in the 4th War