Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34194151-20180107091407/@comment-33229263-20180107171626

CombatIQmatters wrote: MehNameIsJeff wrote: CombatIQmatters wrote: Ninja Of War wrote: Kakashi is known for his use of the raikiri. It's a blitz attack and his go to move. It's pretty fast and his opponent was cornered. It's seems quite logical. But you said he shouldn't assume he could use it. This is one of the tactics Kakashi always uses, yet you seem disappointed by it, could you please explain why? That's Kakashi's battle style, how else is he supposed to attack?

As I explained in instance 3, Kakashi was only concerned with the two pains in front of him, surely he knows that another enemy can appear, but logically the immediate threat is there with him. I don't think the argument of "not always looking for another opponent joining the battle to intercept your attack" is a valid criticism. It certainly didn't occur in this fight.

Azura pain, wasn't properly defeated, this was likely due to Konoha not knowing of the SPoP technique in full, which is understandable.

At the end, pain was just too strong for Kakashi to deal with, too many unknowns and just too powerful to handle. 1. See this is the problem. Raikiri is supposed to be a finisher. You use another technique to setup the raikiri. The Raikiri is fast and lethal and it should be used for its speed, but not while your opponent is still centered. IF you mis-strike, its OVER. Or alternavitely, you use Raikiri as a diversion because its so fast your opponent has to respond, and then you immediately follow up with another technique. As Shikamararu said, a great strategist's move is always the fake out, and the next step is the real move. Kakashi did NO SUCH THING. Ok what? Tell me 3 instances where Kakashi used Raikiri as a finisher. If anything he uses it as a 1-Hit KO or to just cause massive damage to the opponent. Btw, I will respond to your previous comment as well. I would agree with you the fight is plot influenced, but kakashi has already shown a pattern of almost brilliant plans that lose to stupid mistakes. A perfect example of this is is his fight with zabuza in part one. Kakashi is smart enough to swap himself out with a water clone that he himself copied from zabuza, yet somehow isn't smart enough to realize that zabuza, an experienced hidden mist ninja, also would use multiple water clones as well. As a result kakashi gets rekt and then trapped in a water prison, and would have died if naruto didn't quickly think of a plan to save him. Sure, kakashi redeemed himself afterward but my point is that he isn't always a sharp thinker. Even After he takes out zabuza and haku comes to save the day, he doesnt remember until like a day later that what haku did was suspicious. Basically, he also has a small tendency to underestimate his opponents too.

And for your new comment. Again, you are not taking what I'm saying into context. my point is, that kakashi DOESN't always optimize the use of his raikiri. In part one against zabuza ironically, a fight in which i just knocked him, was when he used raikiri properly. He used his dogs to sniff out zabuza and restrain him, and before zabuza could do anything to free himself he blitzed him with a fast rakiri to finish him. Now that is a good example of what kakashi can do when he is planning properly. So reread my comment more carefully in the context of this thread. Using a finishing move as a 1 hit ko is pretty stupid without setup, because again if it fails your off balance and vulnerable to catastrophic counter attack. ITs the equivalent of going for a haymaker during a boxing fight without using jabs/fake jabs to set the technique up. Then you can't say it's supposed to be one if it was never stated or utilized like so.