Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26127155-20151023214254

@Minato87 Naruto and Hashirama are definitely much STRONGER than what Itachi is, but strength has nothing to do with if they can escape Itachi's tsukuyomi and neither of them could survive a strike from the Totsuka blade.

That is why versus threads with Itachi can never truly be answered (with maybe the exception of Madara and Sasuke), due to Itachi having a very unorthodox style of fighting. People are still arguing over Goku VS Superman and both of them end up being straight out brawlers in most fights. In a battle against Itachi, characters are measured by their ability to diffuse genjutsu (no assumptions) and their previous knowledge of Itachi (again no assumptions), but genjutsu is a very underutilised component of the anime (and Itachi has the highest standard of it), so it is very hard to gauge if any particular person has the necessary ability to counter a genjutsu like Tsukuyomi.

@BakumatsuWarrior The main thing I like about the Naruto series is that battles don't go like this: A>B and B>C so therefore A>C. Characters get stronger the longer the series goes for, but certain characters have abilities which allows them to take on top characters without having destroy an entire planet to do anything.

Itachi has Totsuka blade, Yata Mirror, Tsukuyomi. Naruto has TSB. Sasuke has RinneHax, genjutsu, etc. Characters from MOST series would struggle against these abilities because they don't rely on pure strength. A character can be WAY stronger than another character but still not have any answers for certain abilities, which 12 year olds seem to never comprehend.