User talk:Simant

Re: Jutsu Infobox
Shrug/ the field exists for a reason right?..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 18:39, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, ya maybe...But well it will inform ppl, which name which we r going by, our structure, etc...And i still think dantman created the field for a reason...And evn in the older format we had it that way..Literal meaning→Kanji→Romanji→eng tv, Viz, etc...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 18:43, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Umm...I'm not that good with references because I save those references for you just you reedit again. Kunoichi101 (talk) 03:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)Kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 03:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I was doing that, because 'Six Paths of Pain' and 'Deva Path' are listed as jutsu, not as characters. So if someone goes to deva path, and wants to see HIS jutsu he used in the series under his infobox, they will be able to. same with six paths of pain. that make more sense and sound good? or would u rather me revert?--SkyFlicker (talk) 16:55, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

That was for the same reason as well, so users can better see and sort jutsu that are related to the 6 paths of pain, and not to nagato himself. Im basically 'tree'ing it, so that once the parent/child stuff takes effect, it will be easier for people to navigate. Sound good? Or still want just 'Deva Path'?--SkyFlicker (talk) 17:00, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

As I just wrote on his... once this feature of parent/child comes into effect, the 'users' field isnt going to allow the jutsu to be nested correctly. since all of the paths are individually considered jutsu, and the 6 paths are considered jutsu, they need to be nested as jutsu in the 'parent jutsu' field, with 'nagato' being the 'user'--SkyFlicker (talk) 17:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Does 'media' need to be filled out for all infoboxes? because if you put 'anime episode xx', seems like people would know it was anime?--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:17, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:21, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Am I aggrevatin you yet? lol--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:45, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Just trying to help, lol. Goin through them fairly fast, so may miss some stuff--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Nah, im finding a lot, just goin down the list alphabetically--SkyFlicker (talk) 20:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing--SkyFlicker (talk) 20:39, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry -_-'. I will from now on ^_^.--NejiByakugan360 17:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Image captions
Simant, the infobox already has the ability to do captions. There is actually a reason why the Image param uses a multi-line textbox rather than something simple. The image param accepts multiple images each on it's own line, you can override the default image size by placing a size after a : and you can give the image a caption by putting one after a ;. See it's use on w:c:souleater:Shadow☆Star. So the infobox basically supports multiple images in the same infobox, each with it's own optional custom size and caption. Much more flexible than extra infobox fields. Course most of the time these are not needed, it's better to avoid them if you don't have a reason to use them. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 9, 2009 @ 09:51 (UTC)

Re: Plies
The bulleted lines don't stick out much. ~SnapperTo 05:35, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * You could do something with Naruto Uzumaki/Filler Arc. ~SnapperTo 17:26, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Move it to Naruto: Original arcs? Then you'd treat it like all the other arc articles. ~SnapperTo 17:57, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Since the paths are using the jutsu template, that's the only way to get their jutsu to show up in their infobox. ~SnapperTo 05:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Advanced templates
*cough* Simant, could you break down what this is all about. I can barely understand bad programming, but I have a strong feeling you are doing something horribly horribly wrong. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:00 (UTC)
 * A self closed  tag can be used as a whitespace barrier. If you place it in between the content and the start or end of a parserfunction parameter it can act as a barrier that will prevent the whitespace in between itself and the content. In essence  will retain the space before "only". Also, it is unnecessary to place a #switch block inside of a #ifeq, what you did could have been handled using the #switch itself. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:25 (UTC)
 * We could switch over to a set of from-to fields in the form instead of a list of chapter numbers if you're sure we don't have anything that skips chapters or includes older chapters or whatever. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:26 (UTC)
 * I'm working right now, can't do something like that right now. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:32 (UTC)

Ask templates are screwy, you can't pass manual parameters to it, the template only gets the values of properties you ask for using the ? in the later part of the #ask. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 23, 2009 @ 00:28 (UTC)

Images
OK. Soon I will start and look at the list with episodes and will add pictures where doesn't have or are not good.--Donatelo (talk) 13:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * What did you mean by "one is being slow"?
 * There is another problem. When I tried to upload new version of a picture with high resolution - the uploaded picture is with the old resolution or even the quality of the new picture is the same as the old one => that is why I upload new file and not replacing the old file version. Don't know if you understood me. :)
 * And what did you mean by "*Poke* File:Sealed Bomb Square Release.JPG, whitespace"? Could you explain it a little bit simpler. :)
 * I am bothering you a little more than usual - sorry about that.--Donatelo (talk) 22:05, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. I am trying to get a clear picture, but it doesn't work. In the justu is caught and The Giant Bee. If you didn't like it, delete it. File:Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 22:21, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Something like this: File:-Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms-.JPG, File:--Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms--.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 22:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I manage to extract one more frame. File:---Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms---.JPG, File:Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 23:17, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Will you see why this new version of picture don't want to change and to be "current"? - File:The Missed Target.JPG And could you tell me what I am doing wrong?--Donatelo (talk) 17:39, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * In the end, I will not upload new version, because there is a difference between file history, episode infobox, and actual image page and I don't like this and maybe the other users as well. I will make new file and recommend the old file for deletion - Not Used. Is that right?--Donatelo (talk) 19:55, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Titleicons in infobox
Now that I think about it, I had a reason for moving the icons into the infobox. I wanted to start to get rid of all the titleicons because they're just not a good thing to use. Unreliable css, and it completely screws up when the wiki uses sitenotices (and we try to force that to show), they caused some big overlap problems on a page or two. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 04:49 (UTC)
 * Aye, moving all the icons into the infobox is fine, that's the best context for them. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 17:24 (UTC)
 * Two icons is fine if it's easier to do than trying to eliminate the extra one, it doesn't hurt much. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 17:34 (UTC)

~with~
Is it possible for you to make a "with" feature for the infobox, like (I assume) you did with the Puppet thing? I ask so we can but things were a character used a technique with another character, (Like Naruto and Shion Naruto and Shion's Super Chakra Rasengan, it would be listed as Naruto with Shion and all that jazz).--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:01, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's fine. As long as at some point, it's done and I can stop obsessing over it.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:09, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Block
Blocked. Jacce | Talk 12:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

According to our blocking rules, he/she has been warned. If it doesn't help, it will be blocking. Jacce | Talk 17:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 15:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. And I added a protection on the said pages to. Jacce | Talk 19:41, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 13:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

It became a temporary block. Jacce | Talk 15:17, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 08:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 08:28, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 05:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk 06:14, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk 06:04, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Just to point out
Lover is a valid family tree value in this series, as Minato and Kushina weren't married (based off their last names) and yet we have Naruto. Just pointing that out when you are finalizing values.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:59, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Apologies
but (I say because of my sleepy brain, but that might only be an excuse 8D I don't really know right now) I don't know what you're talking about @o@ ~Hakinu (talk 21:20, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! Well, no, it was the entry in Jacce's talk page with the headline "THANK YOU" :) ~Hakinu (talk 21:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Family Tree
I dunno. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 26, 2009 @ 23:11 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the |sort= property in #ask that can sort by a property in the query. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 01:33 (UTC)
 * ^_^ You might want to actually look at the source code for that extension. It's a old (MW 1.7 old, right after they dropped PHP4 ugh) ugly extension that uses a tag (tags are bad for template coding), and produces lists, NOT simply resorting of a list in a flexible way. See if you can do a proper |sort=. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:02 (UTC)
 * As far as I can comprehend with a beating head, "erm, sure". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:10 (UTC)
 * What are you even trying to sort that can't be done with the |sort= parameter? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:05 (UTC)
 * If you have multiple separate queries I have no problem with separate subsections. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:19 (UTC)
 * @_@, I dunno, maybe I'll deal with this later when I'm not ill. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 30, 2009 @ 00:01 (UTC)

Problem...
I did apologize somehow....

Maintenance: Name
What does that mean--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:19, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

oh nu-uh you bunny didn't D:
this picture is so hard to get a capture of that i still remember it! bunny no, it's impsossible, at least from my side, to get a better quality'ed version of it. try it yourself D: ~Hakinu (talk 22:04, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and for the record: I said the 'from my side' thing because alien has the MKV-files of the original episodes. might happen he can get a better one. i'll ask :3 ~Hakinu (talk 22:06, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, In Dual Audio and MKV format, i have till epi 149. This pic is in 151, so the one I have now has a huge Cartoon Network watermark. Mutant 16‏ seems to have a good source though. Maybe he can help...AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:41, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw Simat, the pic that u replaced it with a few mins ago, hardly shows the actual jutsu. In terms of giving a better discription, and reference, the former was better...AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * But that shows the jutsu better, dont you think? It gives anyone reading it, a better idea about the jutsu, than the one being used now..AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:58, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * K..AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 23:00, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Twin Rasengan
The translation I gave was hypothetical, based on my knowledge of Japanese and Kishimoto-sensei's naming conventions. The translation given on the Twin Rasengan page is... awkward at best. I don't know how the person who put it in got that name, it seems to be from one of the films or games, none of which I've seen or played, respectively.

In my opinion, the Twin Rasengan page should be merged with the Rasenrengan page, I see hardly any difference. I also think the Japanese given on the Twin Rasengan page is fancruft, made up by someone with just enough knowledge of Japanese to use an on-line dictionary.

Then again, since I don't know the films, nor the games, I cannot really say anything conclusive. I've heard weirder names from those. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

T.T
Sorry about that... Kunoichi101 (talk) 02:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)Kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 02:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image rationale
If the pic has a rationale, it is most likely that the up loader just made a mistake, so I suggest that you fix the mistakes so the pic gets the right info. If you can't fix it for some reason, like if the manga/anime isn't available at the moment, you could put a {{delete|reason: wrong info in rationale or something similar at the top, and just wait for an other user to fix it. Jacce | Talk 15:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re: File name move
Done ^^ --ShounenSuki (talk 22:58, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Ask queries
I don't believe ! was disabled, no reason for that I know of. ~ is probably not enabled anyways. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 5, 2009 @ 22:22 (UTC)

Re: Rasengan
I don't real care, I was just trying to help Dekoshu. Jacce | Talk 18:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Help
I'm really not the right person to ask for help with these kinds of things. If I can't copy something that I know works or figure it out through trial and error, then it's beyond me. That said, I've been fiddling. Compare the following:


 * +Manga, +Anime


 * +Manga, -Anime


 * -Manga, +Anime


 * -Manga, -Anime

If semantics worked the way we think it should, Adamantine Prison Wall would only be present in the first query. Instead, it is listed in all four. Based on these results, using ! will only exclude things with one value. Since Protection of the Eight Trigrams is tagged as Anime and Game, you want a query that excludes two values (something like |Game ). I couldn't find anything that does that at Help:Semantic search, so the only solution I can offer is to remove the Game tag. ~SnapperTo 04:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * ! works, just not when there are two values for one parameter. It gets confused if there's more than one. ~SnapperTo 00:12, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Naruto Transformation Page protection
Omnibender gave him/her a warning and the files has been protected. Jacce | Talk 10:07, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Why I added Fierce Dragon Palm
I added it because it was part of Naruto Path of the Ninja 2.

Mostly a guess
It was mostly a guess, pretty much a guess that measures the extent of it.--Jako98146 (talk) 03:22, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Ok Then
It was a fake rank anyway.--Jako98146 (talk) 15:37, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Flying Tool
I dont't want to get angry you, but on this wiki admins are as dictators. If they don't like an edit, they undo it. On wikipedia is not as here. There admins are honest.--Looc (talk) 20:31, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

why
Why you keep changing my talk page.

Revert Wars
My apologies. I'm assuming you were the one that undid my stuff on the Kisame page. I was still editing the page when you undid it, so I didn't notice until afterwards. You undid it again, so it doesn't matter anymore. Cidem1324 | Talk (UTC)

Re: Images
Personally, they are pure *$&@ in my honest opinion. I would have removed them myself if I wasn't already in the position I am in (bad cop of the Wiki). Personally if you want to remove them and site that they are terrible I won't stop you.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:08, November 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dude, don't worry. Soon I will download all Shippuuden episodes and will review the characters, jutsus, location and etc. His pictures will be replaced no matter what. :) And soon they will be deleted. I just don't have big hard disk and may be I should delete Naruto episodes first.--Donatelo (talk) 20:53, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * I never thought about CD's, but 36,2GB - this is 10 DVD(4GB). LOL--Donatelo (talk) 21:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rationales
I guess not including the episode number doesn't make it invalid, but it doesn't make it a good rationale. Those should really be fixed to have proper information of where the image came from. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 19, 2009 @ 23:09 (UTC)

Chime in here
Here. I like you enough to handle this. (I am extremely biased as I hate Newthx2u with a passion only matched by my hatred for CoolTamerBoy.)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:28, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Image Request
I uploaded the building - File:The Building for The Academy Teaching Exam.JPG. But don't know in which section at Ninja Academy to put it. At Ninja Academy it is not mention anything about Teaching Exam and I thing that it should be made new section or an new article. In the same episode there are few more names whose past this exam and we should write them. About the building we can describe what is inside based on what we saw in the episode. So I think a new article is more appropriate for this situation.--Donatelo (talk) 08:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. But what should be the name? Academy Teaching? Teaching Academy? This is complicated. In Chunin is said "Some of them, like Iruka Umino and Mizuki, function as teachers" so it may be better to put a new rank - Teacher - and there it should be explain what is teacher, how you become teacher, what are you doing like teacher(for example - I saw that Iruka i Mizuki wear chunin cloths when they took the academy teaching exam - so you can become teacher after you become chunin). And the names of the teachers - Umino Iruka, Mizuki, Midori Kusaha, Fuumi Yutaka, Suzume Namida or something like that - these names are shown at the board in episode 145. And Mizuki is not shown to pass this exam or he is in the bottom - candidate. So it is complicated. :) About the rank - I don't know if this is rank, but can't be anything else. Or may be this is part of the Chunin rank and all of this should be written in Chunin but teaching exam is not chunin exam. So many possibilities. :)--Donatelo (talk) 18:54, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Samehada
Your right, but I think we should change the owner to unknown or something.--Narutouz7 (talk) 17:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

OVA Debuts
Hmm, I dunno. In a way OVA only characters don't even have a debut, they're just part of an OVA. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 24, 2009 @ 17:57 (UTC)

hi
hello simant my name is mummiesofdeath i like your work would like to see mine. [[]] [book]

Lava Jutsu
That person was right it was chapter 466. Proof right here, http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/466/02/Saimaroimaru (talk) 04:56, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind I saw that she used it in 465.Saimaroimaru (talk) 04:59, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Don't get snappy with me. Wi went back and checked and saw my mistake and even commented that I was wrong before your comment. I never said I was right, I said the user was right even though I found out that was wrong. How about stop taking offense to what i say and just prove me wrong(already done) and move on. So what if two other editors disagreed with it, neither of you are perfect, its was an editing mistake now move on or are going to make this more than it really is? Good day.Saimaroimaru (talk) 05:02, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Just letting you know they decided I was right and you were wrong, just because you teo agree on something doesn't mean anything, have a nice day.Saimaroimaru (talk) 05:11, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Clans
All information I can find is focussed on the four noble clans of Konoha: the Uchiha, the Hyūga, the Akimichi, and the Aburame. I couldn't find any general information about shinobi clans and families. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:55, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Toads
You can move it. Jacce | Talk 19:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bots
My apologies for that. I can't actually see well what the bot changes, so things like that can slip through. I still have to find out how to work the bot properly ^^

I'll undo any bad edits I did with the bot. Good luck testing the infobox. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:06, December 1, 2009 (UTC)