Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-44142243-20200416151624/@comment-34656247-20200424222749

LegionZero wrote: It doesnt record it, it corroborates it. The databooks repeating what he said isnt proof that he knew everything about beforehand. It states actualities.

I never said it was an assumption, i said it was a conclusion. Usually one comes to a conclusion after analyzing the data at hand. And you reached here by misunderstanding the meaning of "no wonder" which you interestingly didn't rebut here. Also what does this conclusion prove for your argument really? let's assume he did make the statement from observation, what does that prove? the statement was proven to be true, so what's your point here?

Why do you keep saying he said it was impossible or could not be done? Those words are literally not written on the page Dunno man, it's hard to imagine team konohamaru waltzing around with YM and TB. He wouldn't state it's properties made it unfindable for nothing.

So spirits and souls can be interacted with...

...But not a spirit object? How are their properties different exactly? Clearly all souls or things described as souls don't behave the same. Naruto could see and touch his "soul", after the edo tensei get's released "souls" can be seen flying up, but when neji died no one saw his soul did they? when Itachi died Sasuke didn't see his soul but saw edo Itachi's. The fact that Zetsu said "spirit" and still had to say "no physical form" proves my point. The reaper god can only be seen by those who are about to be killed by it but can't be seen by others which is justifiable. So now the totsuka blade should also be different, it being stated to have no physical form makes it different from WHATEVER Nagato was pulling from Naruto as that was clearly palpable.

So spirits can interact with humans but not vice versa because.... you said so? Even though Naruto did exactly that? Chill all i did was prove the flaw in your logic.

I didnt say anything about merging. A biproduct of one of Orochimaru's jutsu causes the soul of his host soul to be trapped within him, so a spirit-chakra construct can certainly obtain a spirit weapon Ok so what are you saying then? he pulls it from the cave, now how does it end up in susanoo, keep in mind it can't be touched as stated in CANON and not HEADCANON. Show me cave, show me cave, show me anything that canonically supports your argument. Can't, it's all in your head.

It shares all those things by connecting spirit energy through chakra. The manga states this Are you now claiming anyone can get the weapons now using their chakra? you're making zetsu seem like an idiot, ever stop to think your are wrong yet?

Also @Cyberian made some nice points, good luck with them:
 * I can show you the jutsu squirting out of his eyeball. You can't show me the cave he found it in.
 * It could be transferred? But, Itachi didn't transfer it to Sasuke, the person he was deliberately trying to give power to? Most likely because it can't be transferred, because it's a jutsu, not an object found in a cave.
 * Orochimaru looking for legends doesn't make SoT separate from Itachi's doujutsu.