Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168130-20170506215650/@comment-30426414-20170513153646

BlazeRelease wrote: 1.(About Naruto's stamina or tireness) I thought your arguement was that he was tired and such. And now you're saying his chakra was low but you're also said he looked tired because he needed Sasuke's help to stand.

My argument is that he was tired because most of his chakra was drained. I never said Naruto needed Sasuke's help to stand, I said Sasuke needed Naruto's help to stand after Naruto healed him.

BlazeRelease wrote: 2. (About Naruto's chakra) Momo was complaining that it's taking too long and such and also said that it's such a massive amount of chakra and then So no, he did have a nuce amount of chakra left in him, and also had enough to even charge up his best friend.

I just rewatched the scene in the movie and Momoshiki never actually said Naruto has a large amount of chakra left. Just because he complained that its taking too long doesn't mean he has a lot left to drain. He could have drained 90% of the chakra and could still be complaining that its taking too long. Again, after the golem was defeated, Naruto couldn't even maintain SPSM and he had to result to using his version 1 cloak to defend against Momoshiki's last attack.

BlazeRelease wrote: And what SPSM had to do with his Kurama chakra? if I remember correctly, he gained SPSM as a different power, not from his kurama but instead from the sage who gave him SP chakra or sp Senjutsu, and he uses it without his kurama chakra. But he can also power it up with Kurama's chakra cloak. And I don't know if Momo absorbed Naruto's chakra too. He barely reached Kurama's chakra.

SPSM is the one he used the lava style rasenshuriken with, when he adds kurama's cloak, he becomes yellow and shit. So yes, Kurama's chakra is very much involved in SPSM and Naruto wouldn't be panting if some of his chakra wasn't drained as well. Therefore, we saw that Naruto couldn't maintain SPSM and had to use his version 1 cloak instead after the golem was defeated, he wouldn't use a version 1 cloak if he had enough chakra to use SPSM.

This is exactly the same as VOTE2, Naruto used a version 1 cloak to defend against Amaterasu because he didn't have enough chakra to use SPSM anymore. He was also on the ground not able to move very much which clearly shows he was tired.

BlazeRelease wrote: 4.(About what you didn't understand) Sasuke did not use his Susanoo in the manga before he was inside Kurama. Only after he was in Kurama that he got recharged enough to use it. I hope this method is better.

Just because Sasuke was inside Kurama doesn't mean Naruto was healing him. It didn't even look like Sasuke was inside Kurama in the manga.

BlazeRelease wrote: 5.But how accurate are we ourselves? I mean the wikia shouldn't be that inaccurate especially about something like this. But then again you can ignore that and look at the other things I provided like Sasuke being Indra's reincarnation, him overcoming all of Itachi's MS genjutsu as well his Tsukuyomi.

Just quote the manga instead of the wikia, Kishimoto did not write the wikia, there are a few inaccuracies in it.