Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36632842-20180818184904/@comment-34194151-20180924215409

@Blazerelease

And yet the water clone cannot be seen through by the sharingan. And who is to say that kiba's akamaru decoy doesn't have akamaru's chakra? I see no proof for why sasuke would be able to see through it. And of course kiba wouldn't use it the exact same way he did against sakon. he would toss the decoy at sasuke and sasuke would perceieve it as the real akamaru trying to lunge at him. then it explodes into kunai catching sasuke off guard, creating an opening for the real akamaru to mark him. and then do fang over fang.

Since when does the sharingan do this outside of silly anime filler? Kakashi couldn't see through zabuza's thickened mist until the objects came near him. If he could simply see "colors" through another object then the mist wouldn't have been such a problem. Why would sasuke be able to see through gaara's sand shell, when the sand has gaara's chakra in it? he wouldn't be able to tell the difference. The sharingan can certainly percieve surface chakra on people and in the environment but nothing states that the radiation chakra emits can penetrate through solid surfaces. If that was the case we would have a ton of plot holes on our hand, like why it its that itachi failed to see kakashi making a water clone while inside his water-style water wall. I am actually curious to know this, so please cite where you got that information from.

Lol because trading blows with someone doesn't necessarily indicate equality in running speed. Taijutsu speed/striking speed =/= running speed. If you are in a similair enough running speed tier though, you can see your opponent. If you have a sharingan, that helps. Ninja still have way above average reaction times too, so that complicates it further. but once you get into close quarters range a different type of speed is involved. Itachi was always portrayed to be an increidbly fast shinobi, so it makes sense that he can see kcm naruto's movements and trade blows with him, but nothing states he was as fast as kcm naruto. Itachi isn't faster than ayy in running speed but he can trade blows with him in CQC and react to him and percieve him.

He knew about amaterasu due to plot. There is no reason he should know about that technique when itachi never used it on him before, and if he knew about amaterasu, how did he miss izanagi, izanami, and susano'o lol. And lol why doesn't he recognize the name madara uchiha when there is a giant statue of him in the valley of the end, and he hangs out with people who know about him? Why, sasuke, why don't you know these things?

Um hello? sasuke was friends with kabuto as well. Sasuke should have recruited kabuto as a minion. have kabuto teach him edo tensei, forcibly through genjutsu or something. then use edo tensei as backup lol, and even kabuto. He could have chosen edo tensei specifically tailored to fight itachi. he didn't do any research. he failed to do more preparations to truly understand his enemy on a mental and physical level. he also put all his chakra into one technique and no backup in case it failed lol. IF sasuke thought of these things then the battle would have worked out better for him. If in the end, itachi still gets the best of him, then so be it. But at least sasuke wouldn't have made any mistakes. in the canon as it stands putting all his chakra into kirin was a tacitical error alongside his lack of information gathering when he access to so many principles of nature and forbidden techniques.

Sasuke would try to fight kiba head on and kiba would surprise him with his improvements. sasuke may not actively underestimate him, but his mindset will cause him to passively underestimate kiba.

ok, and what proof do you have that sakon can't react to sasuke?

and for shikamaru, you can't take too many ninja away from the village without compromising village defenses.