Board Thread:Episode Discussions/@comment-25319479-20180517110054/@comment-30985916-20180518211147

Thekillman wrote: Jakefirestorm wrote: That's like saying Neji shouldn't have his Byakugan. (...)Sure if Naruto didnt have Kurama influence, he had a good chance of losing. The only fight Naruto won with his own strength, is against Kiba. Every other enemy he defeated, he used Kurama's overwhelming power. Even just raising Kurama's chakra was powerful enough to destroy Haku's ice mirrors, despite the fact that a reasonably powerful Fireball did nothing.

Neji had Naruto by the balls. Hell if he hadn't been such a prick, he would've dealt the final blow ages ago in stead of going on about destiny and about how futile Naruto's attempt were. Without Kurama, there would literally be no way for Naruto to win. Boruto is far stronger than Pt1 Naruto without his Kurama cheat.

That's not completely true. Naruto's fight with Gaara never featured any time where Naruto had Kurama chakra helping. The closest instance where that fight had anything to with Kurama was when Naruto used transformation jutsu on him and Gamabunta, and that only aestheic (I think that's how you use the word). He only changed to Kurama because he was thinking of the Kurama and he would feel more in-sync with Kurama (Not really, but you get the point). The entire fight against Gaara, arguably the strongest opponent of Naruto in Part I, was done with Naruto's own chakra. If it was Kurama influence on this fight, it was had red chakra gathering, which never happens in this fight.

In this fight, he basically summons 2000 clones and summons Gamabunta, both of which are extreremly powerful and chakra-taxing, against Gaara (later the One-tails, Shukaku). And note that the Konoha Crush happened the same day of the Chunnin Exams, which is the same Naruto that almost lost to Neji. The two fights were at least about 1-2 hours apart, so Naruto was either extremely buffed for the Gaara fight, or that was his true power. Either way, one can't make the argument that Gaara-fight Naruto had more training or experience, so this Naruto obliterates Boruto, even with the scientific ninja tool. Even if it was Neji-fight Naruto (which, I remind again, is only few hours before the Gaara fight) Boruto still isn't that much stronger, Naruto can deal with "geniuses" (see NEJI). I'd give Boruto 8 out of 10 times with Neji-fight Naruto, but Gaara-fight Naruto...

Yeah, you see the point?

Edit: Whoops, forgot that Naruto does use Nine-tails chakra, my bad, but that was only towards the end of the fight, which proves my point that he wasn't using it before. Yeah, techniacallyhe would've "lost" without Kurama, but still, he performed all feats before by himself, which is at least Jonin level.