Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180805070709

AsianReaper wrote: You interpret all these panels in a way that seems so warped to me that it's impossible for me to actually debate with you so believe what you want. Of course we have differing opinions so neither of us are necessarily wrong, but the way you interpret things is so foreign to me that we will get nowhere. So we're good, I'm just not debating with you on this anymore. Cool..i replied with what i saw and that's what exactly happened cuz i checked again after i saw your reply. If what i said had errors you would've pointed them out, i mean didn't naruto jump away backwards? didn't obito fail to catch naruto whilst he was running backwards? didn't obito finally caught up to naruto after he swung the gunbai? didn't 115 have actual jump speed feats? what's so foreign about my reply? please tell me, i might learn from you. ;_-

LegionZero wrote: Naw bro im just tired of repeating myself. Oh you meant you're tired of not sending any proof? cuz i like asked for some twice and got none, i mean shoving proof into someone's face is a quicker and concrete way to shut them up..but why just why couldn't you send? oh that's because they don't exist. You just assumed he pushed off from the other side and that suddenly became a rock hard fact. I don't lie m8. And i usually accept when i'm wrong. It's not hard ;_;. It might seem as if im playing the god of knowledge here on you, but nope at first i acknowledged the scans you sent, you statements you made, but then it boiled down to me sending proofs to counter the scans you sent..the proof i sent were near concrete, and seeing as how you got no counter to mine as i did to yours i can't really acknowledge any non-proof comments from yah.

LoneNinja wrote: Gimp sucks? That's your defense? Yikes. You obviously lack the understanding on how to work it or you'd know it's a 4 star image edit software. Bet you can't even tell me what sucks about it. Was that a defense? notice the brackets dude, that's just an opinion. I said it sucked for a reason, i used gimp before,im speaking from experience, i found wayy better softwares than Gimp which is why i can say it does suck compared to ones im using now.

You stated it when you stated Naruto was instant (which you claimed you aren't retreating from but now saying you debunked it which means you are retreating), cause Naruto and Obito both moved at the same time and Obito moved more within the time frame. There is no evidence to suggest that Naruto was going easy on Obito as you seem to think since you clearly think he never ran at his fullest speed even when the world was on the line which makes 0 logical sense. Quoting me would've been more convincing, i mean right now my brain is struggling to bring up a memory of me typing those words, i mean if you quote me and it's there then yay im dead wrong other than that....i never said it. Yep and i debunked it wayy back, sorry if you're way back with it also. Why would a person go at their max speed when an opponent is clearly slower than them? it would be totally pointless and would not make any sense, it's called adapting to the battle. We can literally see naruto dashing away from a falling obito, but what we couldn't see is naruto dodging Ay who at that time was charging at naruto with the intent to kill, Naruto had time to go from the front of the raikage to his rear end a few feets back, we didn't even see him go there..let me know what is so similar about those two scenes, does the speed look the same to you? the dodge he performed against Ay WAS clearly faster, the one against Obito was more like normal speed and not the shunshin-like one (he did against ay).

Even when Naruto's clone charged at him and while in movement, Obito did exactly what Minato did to Ay. Obito used his teleportation (intangibility) to get behind him, and hit him while he was in movement (which would be impossible unless you moved at around the same speed). Then Naruto charged at him, and he charged at Naruto and almost grabbed his face while Naruto was in movement, yet Naruto was unable to react even though he can move "instantly" according to you, and Gai needed to save him. It seems like you're having trouble in telling when Naruto is going fast and when he's not.
 * in 594 page 15 [BTW use kissmanga.ru]..omg look one scene has Obito saying the words, as a nobody are words guided by the truth of the world, notice in that same scene we have naruto without kcm on,the next panel shows nothing as naruto already activated KCM, charged a rasengan and already left from where he was standing...now in the scene you're talking about we can clearly see two clones casually moving at Obito, the speed difference is obvious between AY vs Naruto, chapter 594, and the one you're talking about.