Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200621203703/@comment-45444155-20200625082404

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

There's a dust effect that Hiruzen talks about. Reread the moment, please. This is true. Still the "dusting" has only ever shown to be effective against ninjutsu

ReweR 1331 wrote:

What's the point of regenerating through TSB when Ten-tails is sitting inside, which can regenerate even half of the body? Before Obito regained consciousness, he destroyed half of his body, but later successfully recovered it without TSB, just like Madara. What's the point in using TSB now that he's taken minor damage? Your logic comes from an incomprehensible perspective, not logic and reality. Because Senjutsu actually causes him significant harm. TSB are not Senjutsu from all the information we have.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

So you're saying that cancelation and erasure are the same technique? What element does it belong to? YinYang

ReweR 1331 wrote:

And there are more questions. The data book says that you can get different effects by mixing natural properties inside, from here:

- what's the point of writing this if no one's ever shown the effects? Its unclear whether or not it means they can be mixed together to create Kekkei natures.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

- If cancellations and erasures are the same thing and not a Dust Release effect, can the user create a Dust Release effect? Will it work like a Dust Release? It would seem not. If he could then the manga should have been over when Obito regained his consciousness.

I don't get it, what's that got to do with it. Because of senjutsu he couldn't use personal regeneration or something? I don't get it, but if he did, Madara quietly regenerated after taking damage from senjutsu. Or did you compare his damage to "Senjutsu: Rasengan" with the loss of half his body?!

Okay, you think the cancellation and erasure is Release Yin-Yang. But, Hiruzen said that erasure is the result of 4+ natural transformations, drawing a parallel with Dust Release Oonoki, which is the result of only 3 natural transformations.

What does the data book then mean? What are the effects? What is the superiority over Bloodline Limit and Bloodline Selection? By the way, the data book quotes Hiruzen's thoughts, but only Hiruzen was talking specifically about erasure, not some effects, which is strange.

Do you really think that Hiruzen is just unlucky? He used a real object against TSB - shuriken, who later cloned. By a ridiculous coincidence, Obito only got the shuriken that Hiruzen cloned, so he erased them. Question: if the real shuriken got into TSB, what would happen to him?

I also remembered the kunai Minato, which Obito had just erased rather than broken. Doesn't that mean that Dust Release effect affects not only ninjutsu, but real items as well?