Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5273810-20150721161252/@comment-26773508-20150814091640

BlueLantern1995 wrote:

Sorry for the misleading comment I was replying to Minato87 who said Part 1 Guy would lose to Kakashi something that I find ridiculous myself. I was commenting on Kakashi's track record as a Kage level shinobi.

If you are including Orochimaru then you need to include Itachi that is probably his most humiliating defeat in the entire series. I will not include Danzo or Obito as they didn't appear in Part 1 though without a doubt if they were included Kakashi would be below them as well. Oops I totally forgot about Itachi and how he assraped Kakashi in 3 seconds lol. As a Kakashi fanboy at that time, I cried like a little girl when Itachi sent him to the hospital without even touching him :D So that pushes Kakashi down 3 places on the list (I'm counting Danzo and Obito because they were alive during Part 1, even though they were only revealed in Part 2).

Regarding Asuma, I think the eventual victory will go to Kakashi. Asuma probably has slightly more chakra and stamina. He definitely has the elemental advantage, as Wind beats Lightning and we haven't seen Kakashi using Katon in the manga with which to counter Asuma's Wind (he used it in an anime episode of Shippuden, but manga>anime so no katon for Pre-War Kakashi). However, Kakashi has a wide arsenal of jutsus, and he's one of the smartest shinobi in the series, perhaps slightly below Shikamaru, Itachi and Tobirama, although I think Kakashi and Itachi are at the same level of intelligence (maybe Tobirama is also at the same level, if not higher). This is a key factor, as Itachi's intelligence is one of the main reasons why he's one of the strongest in the entire Narutoverse. The only difference is that Itachi had haxxed Mangekyo jutsus with which to utilize his battle intelligence to devastating effects, while Kakashi had a borrowed tool that was both his great strength and his greatest liability. But his intelligence combined with his wide arsenal of jutsus should eventually give him the edge.

P.S. I don't think Asuma's performance against Hidan was that superior to Kakashi. He had assistance from Shikamaru and those two unremarkable Chunins whose names I don't even remember. He certainly couldn't have beheaded Hidan on his own, as Shikamaru was assisting him with his Shadow jutsu the whole time. On the whole, I think Kakashi's would have performed better against Hidan thanks to his superior intelligence. But Kakashi would have a high probability of dying had he been in Asuma's place. I say "high probability" instead of "certainly" given Kakashi's frequent strategy of Kage Bunshin feints. So there's a slight chance Kakashi could have figured out Hidan and survived as well because of that strategy.

P.S.2: Regarding Gaara and Kakashi, I think Kakashi beats Gaara in both Part 1 and Part 2. DMS Kakashi doesn't count. Hokage Kakashi would also most probably beat Kazekage Gaara due to Kakashi's speed (he had an appreciable increase in speed in Part 2, as he was able to keep up with Itachi to some extent), intelligence, vastly increased stamina and his great arsenal of jutsus.