Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-33953813-20171226015659/@comment-734582-20171226091700

Gagua2028 wrote: People can't dream forever. They need to have enough life force. Madara never explains how people would live FOREVER in a dream without eating or drinking. People with Zetsu cells do not need to eat or drink. So presumably, Madara thought that the plant part of the IT would keep them nourished (rather than using them as nourishment, as the actual IT did).

Gagua2028 wrote: Also what was Madara's plan after everyone was in the genjutsu? Did he himself plan to get caught in it? Did he want all mankind to eventually die inside the genjutsu in order to bring PEACE? Why did he want to get revived anyway, since Obito could have fulfilled his duty? He wanted people to live in the genjutsu in order to create peace. He intended himself to be the Savior, so presumably he'd have guided the IT in order to create the world he wanted. Maybe at some future point he would've released the jutsu once everyone was more or less brainwashed to accept his worldview. But creating this world would be difficult, so Madara didn't really plan beyond it (and once achieved, would have all the time and power to plan for it).

Gagua2028 wrote: Also how did he just believe that Black Zetsu was the manifestation of HIS will without any PROOF that he created it? I am sure he wasn't so dumb as to just blindly believe whatever Black Zetsu told. Black Zetsu manipulated him to believe such things. He was manipulating from the shadows, and simply made Madara believe he could manifest his will in such a fashion. It's implied at various points that some sort of connection exists between both White and Black Zetsu and Madara/Obito, so presumably Zetsu did it in such a way that his suggestions appeared as Madara's own ideas. And once out in the open, he could simply pretend to be Madara's will. Gagua2028 wrote: Why did he want to get revived anyway, since Obito could have fulfilled his duty? Because he wanted to be the savior himself, and didn't trust obito (which was entirely justified, since Obito was thwarting his plans).