Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36632842-20180818184904/@comment-34194151-20180919213032

@BlazeRelease

Lol no. Itachi and kakashi couldn't discern water clones from the originnal, and water clones use a mere ten percent of the users chakra.

Sure, your battle would go the way you described when you prove that sasuke is that much faster than kiba.

There is a fine line between suprrising someone and outsmarting them. They can be interchangeable, but there also times when the distinction should be made. Naruto outsmarted zabuza, yes that much is true, because they actually outmanuevered him legitimately. Orochimaru literally stopped sasuke's shuriken in it's tracks. He also had plenty of time to react to the fireball, he was just surprised by sasuke's skill. It's no different then kakashi crapping his pants when he saw sasuke using a fireball, yet he easily countered it.

Techniques of equal magntitude will tie unless there is an elemetnal advantage. a strong enough wind technique can easily overpower a weak fireball.

Complicated is better when it clear simple isn't cutting the mustard. Look at naruto vs pain. he e didn't need to strategize in the beginning because sage mode was too powerful for pain. Rasenshuriken was too fast for one of the pains to dodge, and two pains literally got one shotted in CQC. Once the pains took a more defensive formation, naruto was forced to strategize and he made the right call, so he showed intelligence. But if naruto was even smarter, he could have strategized and took all the pains out in one go from the beginning, instead the fight dragged on Even then, complicated is better because you leave no chances for your opponent to recover if you overload them with aggressive and calculated strategic manuevers. This is combat, where your life is on the line. Sasuke 's strategy of blitzing gaara worked initially, and gaara adaped. at that point we should have seen more strategy from sasuke, but the best he could come up with was a hail mary chidori attack in the hopes he could penetrate the barrier. If he was smarter he could have clone feinted and dug underground and then attack gaara from underneath. Sasuke could have easily learned headhunter jutsu from kakashi if naruto was able to use that same jutsu.

Ok, he outsmarted zaku, never denied that, but that could simply be attributed to zaku's own inexperience and method of countering. If he simply dodged the fireballs then he wouldn't need to worry about the shuriken inside them. And like I said, that fireball shuriken tactic is a uchiha staple, sasuke didn't plan to outsmart him he simply did it by accident.

My point about bee still stands. Even suigetsu had the insight to notice the dude was a badas when it came to wielding swords. and lmao what? Killer bee uses those swords like they are extra limbs. He developed his own unorthodox sword style and is clearly the most talented swordsman in the series. No one can cross blades with him in a straight up fair swordsmanship fight except god tiers. and my point still stands that sasuke could have used genjutsu from the beginning if he was anything like itachi and then he wouldn't have had swords stabbing him in the chest, enough said.

Sasuke is just not as smart as you thought. The dude didn't even know who madara uchiha was, kurama had to tell him, and sasuke supposedly cares so much about his clan, doesn't even know it's history. That's like an American patriot living in America today not knowing who George Washington was lol.

Out of nowhere factors are a given. Hidan's immortality and voodoo technique were out of nowhere. Obito's kamui and izanagi were out of nowhere too. That's why when you make a specific strategy to take down an opponent, you always have a backup plan incase there is an unexpected variable. The phrase expect the unexpected has wisdom to it. Rewatch shikamaru vs kakazu. Kakazu commended shikamaru for being smart enough to use hidan to gather more information about kakazu before they engaged him. Sasuke failed to do that the second he admitted he was gonna use all his chakra for kirin. Konan made the same mistake against tobi with her 600 billion paper bombs. Sometimes, you can't plan for everything, but not putting all your eggs in one basket should be common sense and should be avoided when possible, especially when you have significant prep time. the manda thing is just an excuse, because he had time to make a new back-up plan before confronting itachi.