Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28614651-20200422182101/@comment-39350828-20200518234228

LegionZero wrote: So you werent suggesting that Naruto would knowingly let an enemy laun h an unknown attack in his face? No, I was suggesting there were reasons for him to not bail completely Because in response to that situation you said he doesnt always act rationally I was explaining why it would be an assumption for you to think that if he knows an attack is coming he's going to stop it if he knows he's capable of that. According to youhe is aware an attack is coming before it is even launched so he has ample time to get out of the way Naruto doesn't know when madara will finish prepping and launch his jutsu. For all he knows, he doesn't have enough time to bail completely. Also, he could stop it by using TSB or chakra arms to prevent Madara from launching the attack. Even if he could've that doesn't mean he would've done it. Also, you haven't proven that he could've done what you're suggesting or that he was fast enough to stop madara by any other method. You would have a point if they werent moving too fast for those sensory abilities to matter. Both Naruto AND Madara were shown multiple times to be cought off guard by attacks, being completely unaware anything is happening Are you saying that things that move too fast can't be sensed? That would be inconsistent with naruto dodging the beam as it was moving towards him and the staff taking no time to be destroyed. If it moved at light-speed unhindered then he couldn't have seen it so he would've had to sense it which is why one of those has to be untrue. So when i inteperate a panel depicting the launch, slicing, and dodge of an attack as having happened in the same insant is adding panels except that it doesn't depict that But when you interpret the same panel as the attack hitting the staff and being hindered by it, Naruto noticing this and using it to his advantage to dodge the attack isn't adding panels? To be clear I interpret the panel as ambiguous. Even though your unproven claims about how naruto avoided the attack seem outlandish even for the narutoverse, I still acknowledge them as a possible interpretation. How does that make a difference?

How does that change the fact that Naruto was surprised by it?

This doesnt validate your argument. All naruto knows is that something is coming. He has no idea what it is or what it does. Details like this can be unexpected and surprise him. Your point was that he can't be surprised if he could sense madara moving chakra in his body to do a jutsu but that's not true. Ye he was, the motion lines are still there motion lines past his position to let us know that there is is not done moving, his hair and clothes are still being dragged into positon If he's out of the way he's post-dodge. It doesn't matter whether he's still moving or not Adding panels and words again. We are only ever shown Naruto being cought off guard by Limbo and then dodging the beam. again we weren't shown him dodging the beam All of your arguments are based on assumptions and that Naruto is choosing to be reactive to things he is aware are coming instead of proactively trying to stop them from coming in the first place So when you assume that naruto's staff was destroyed instantly, that naruto could've prevented madara from launching his attack and that naruto would have chosen the course of action that would result in that it's completely fine but when I offer alternate possibilities to show how him moving faster than light to avoid the beam is not the only explanation of how he could've dodged it, it's not acceptable?