Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25531508-20140923043228/@comment-25382671-20140924225801

Agreed, @Hiyayaka. Hiruzen was badass without the need of any sort of Kekkei Genkai. Also it should be noted that even at 69 years he was, by no means, a pushover.

The thing is that Kishi saw fit to boost the shit out of the main characters, to insane levels.

I say this as a huge fan of Minato, who got downgraded to a lower-grade Tobirama... something which really bothers me to this day.