Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26388300-20160524034125/@comment-27924662-20160524232644

XShadyShadow wrote: @Namikazenaruto9 Omg, my eyes. What am I reading, you're wanking Minato right now. The conclusion of the fight would be nothing of Tobirama vs Izuna. Izuna was highly inexperienced and was caught off guard/got cocky. Minato likely isn't catching Madara blindsided and if he does his reaction timing >> Minato's so he'd either block the attack or outright dodge it. And you are hyping madara since when did madara became the fastest shinobi, heck when did he became famous for his reaction timing. if you are gonna say about 4th great ninja war I would remind you that madara was reanimated with body better than his actual physical prime. the only ones who can dodge FTG for sure are those who have SM. even A wouldn't have survived the onslaught unless killer B hadn't intervene.so I am pretty sure madar would die unless he starts with Susanoo. besides all that talk about izuna becoming cocky.......we are talking about a character who is always cocky (so more likely he would meet the same end as his bro). XShadyShadow wrote: And no, Madara stopped Ay by blocking his punch when he was in mid-air and stated that he was fast. Madara BLOCKED it. Madara wouldn't need to use PS from the start because Minato isn't tagging him and not blind-siding him either. Honestly all Madara would really need is a full-bodied Susano'o to deal with Minato, he wouldn't even need PS. when did Madara blocked a full speed punch from A? I don't remember any such thing in the fight ... he used Susanoo to block his karate chops... if I remember correctly in base minato was as fast as A than think how fast he would be in TBM, and in TBM+SM. think about it.he can easily blitz EMS Madara any time he wants with a combo attack in TBM and FTG.so definitely he needs Susanoo to protect himself(and if we are talking about hypothetical prime minato than PS) though he would still have to watch out for UBBR in normal Susanoo. XShadyShadow wrote: Yeah sure, Kurama gives it a boost in offensive means but not in any defensive capabilities. PS tanking a TBB was it's own feat, he used it as a shield to guard Kurama and was certain it would do such so he was aware of his PS's extent. Kurama didn't boost the defensive means of PS's durability/defense. The only thing he used it for was combining is PS slash and TBB to increase his destructive prowess, PS alone is the defense. So PS tanked TBB. I think you didn't read my comment about the kurama enhanced Susanoo. Susanoo which was formed during that fight had mix of both kurama and madara's chakra so it was bound to be stronger. all I am saying is unless they show that (without kurama) if madara's PS can tank TBB than only it's acceptable otherwise not. XShadyShadow wrote: I'm gonna ignore the Hashirama vs Madara thing because this literally means nothing in a Madara vs Minato fight. LOL, oh god. Minato close in power to Hashirama?? That's the funniest thing I've read all day, please just stop and accept facts. Hashirama would DESTROY Minato. Madara would DESTROY Minato. Hashirama is in his own league and Madara rivals him (Not too much.) Either one of them vs Minato and Minato is getting near fodderized. He can't compete with the top tiers of the Narutoverse. Minato close in power to Hashirama?? what's wrong in this statement ,(mind you I didn't say equal). how would you describe hashirama' s strong points?: really good healing factor and large quantity of chakra. with addition of TBM to minato I am pretty sure both of these are covered to comparable extent. so how is this statement wrong? I never claimed hashirama wouldn't destroy minato(though it will be difficult for him).I am only saying EMS madara cannot beat minato(in TBM+SM)[especially without Susanoo]. XShadyShadow wrote:

It won't matter if Minato combines all of them together, because once Madara goes PS it's GG. A TBB isn't enough to even scratch PS. Please stop with this "TBM+SM." His SM sucks, it wouldn't enhance TBM by much at all and he isn't tagging an experienced, fast reflexed Susano'o wielder. None of that tips anything in Minato's favor. Why am I even arguing this, the wank with you is strong. No version of Minato can compete with Hashirama or Madara, please stop. Ironic though, the only thing getting mincemeatted is Minato once PS lands a blow on him. Minato isn't onslaughting any top tier. Stop. what are you saying ?I mean do you even read what are you actually saying? all that stuff about how SM wouldn't enhance the TBB.if I remember correctly in base Naruto in base could barely make BBR and in sage mode he could easily make several UBBR with shadow clones without tiring. think about how much stronger TBB would become especially if minato uses kurama 's chakra to balance the nature energy.[so yes it's going to be a huge boost in speed and power] well if you are still gonna insist on how minato cannot destroy PS, than I have news for you so what if he can't after all even madara cannot touch him so madara is the one who is going down because of loss of chakra in utilizing Susanoo only to avoid FTG.had it been any other madara for instance with rinnegan or kurama it would have been a different story but here he can still lose.