Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-34656247-20190202000742

Ninja Of War wrote: Secondly, lol, I find it entertaining that you use strange logic and comparisons, then discard it. (Note: Not meant to be insulting) ?

For your proposed version of the use of the word "concurrently". Well, it's obvious that Tsukuyomi is a MS ability, so the Sharingan is needed to cast it. However, the line where the word "concurrently" is used, follows basic sentence structure. Basic sentence structure, requires "Time", "Manner" and "Place". "Time" part of the sentence is on it's correct place with the use of the word "Concurrently", with the meaning "As it stands now".

That indicates that the meaning is reduced to that sentence, not referring to a previous sentence. Also, It's not necessary to explain extremely obvious things twice, particularly in a databook. Let's say you're correct, the word was used in the way as you said, what now? what exactly are you gonna prove?. I can see you trying to say skilled non uchiha's can break it? referring to those introduced later in the series? i'm curious.But the statements are still limited up to a point in the series as you said, and it's not like the author specifically explained exactly how Tsukuyomi can be broken like how he did for amaterasu so we apply that knowledge to character's who possibly possess those perks of breaking tsukuyomi, he just flat out said who can as if he's trying to favour some lads.

JamesSenpai wrote: Why would the partner method with non Uchiha work when Kishimoto and Itachi stated before Kakashi even seen Itachi again, that only Uchiha with Sharingan can break it? You make no sense. Why would Kishimoto say Uchiha can break it when they cannot? You have no argument. Kishimoto said they can. Doesn't matter how unfathomable it is too you. What is Tsukuyomi? It's a Genjutsu that Itachi controls to the point he affects the perception of time itself. Who can break it? Elite Uchiha with Sharingan. That is without a doubt a fact. You need to prove it wrong. And as you said Tsukuyomi doesn't happen instantly. You said and proved that. So him referring to the illusion itself makes no sense whatsoever than the casting itself, which actually makes perfect sense. All you said in this post is your opinion on how Kakashi thinks and acts. The facts are clear. Tsukuyomi does not happen instantly according to you and the evidence you provided. The casting however does. So he therefore was talking about the casting. I learned nothing new from this reply...reread my reply. You said nothing to deny that tsukuyomi happens instantly. I need proof.

Like I said. You act like you're the creator of Naruto, basically saying Bee just sat around for ten years and never improved on his weaknesses. If you think I'm going to think a powerful wise Shinobi like Bee just sat around for over ten years and never improved himself, then you're wasting your time. You aren't convincing me to admit Bee can't break Genjutsu. Until I see Bee succumb to Genjutsu, don't waste your breath. You saying I pose a theory is just like you posing the theory that Bee never trained. So back at you. Please show me where it is stated that Bee never improved? As for your me and you statements, take it up with War. Cause as I said, he made a valid claim that non Uchiha can. Phew Boy. If judges were to think like this then criminals would rule the world. You're just giving a character credit for a feat he didn't even accomplish, you're the one who's acting like the creator in saying a fully developed character got a new power...so mr creator i need proof of your development on Bee and i'm not seeing any until then i win on this one because what we have on the character is what we're gonna work with. And what was war's valid claim that the non uchiha's who get shit on with basic genjutsu can break tsukuyomi? all he's trying to do is prove a word wrong in the databook, i understand the outcome but it still won't prove that non uchiha's can, there are feats that exist showing that they can't.

" Show proof. That isn't there. I'd like to see stuff like these more often from you, like when you were saying instant means 0.0 seconds....show proof of that why don't yah. The 3rd databook says Jiraiya forms his massive rasengan in an instant, so according to you Jiraiya can transfer chakra, set his hand in a right position and form a massive rasengan in 0.0 seconds! impressive!. Thats light speed+ right there from Jiraiya ,confirmed. anyways here you go, the name of the site is called Thesaurus..

First off, no you weren't. Do i really need to hold your hand and show you where and when Kakashi saying moment was brought up and why? Okay. As you can clearly see. We have always been talking about Tsukuyomi being instantly for illusion or cast speed. You used Kakashi saying moment as proof it happens instantly for illusion. So... Do you notice that we're arguing over trivial things. I was indeed talking about tsukuyomi being instant as in it finishes you off under a second ...so what exactly are you trying to prove? what i'm saying vs what you're saying remains the same,and it will most likely be so for the rest of the argument because your understanding of the word 'instant' is absurd.