Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27664103-20160220225016/@comment-26369387-20160225192648

@Ravenlot Well, it is actually possible that Madara HALF-lied.

Here's how I see it: by using Majestic Attire: Susanoo with Kurama, any version of Susanoo(humanoid, armoured) would become pseudo-Complete Body — Susanoo(which is about as strong as real CB — S,) since Kurama's chakra enhances ninjutsu, which Susanoo is. VotE happens, mountains are cut, maps are changed and so on.

Skip to Fourth Shinobi World War. Edo!Madara, after switching into armoured Susanoo, remembers the feeling of pseudo-CB — S, decideds to test if he can do it without Kurama and thanks to Six Paths Chakra he has due to Rinnegan, he managed to do it alone.

So when Madara claimed he used CB — S during VotE, he meant the pseudo-CB — S. And Kage wouldn't know any better. After all, how could any of them know what really happened during VotE?

Well, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

As for Hashirama being surprised, that's in chapter 641, page 6, which is due to pages 4 and 5.