User talk:Elveonora

Re: My theory on how nature releases work
As I said, the elemental chakras are basically earth etc., just made of chakra. They look and feel like the element they're supposed to be. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:08, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh, I don't prefer that explanation. It simply is the explanation given by the manga. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:23, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that's nothing to do with nature transformation, as far as we know. • Seelentau 愛 議 09:31, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Ok then...
I'm interested in your theory. Convince me that Blaze is Fire+Lightning and not Fire+Yin. ;)

Edit: By the way, you can call me "Windy" rather than "WindStar." Saves you the typing. Kinda like how people call Ten Tailed Fox "Foxie." :P -- WindStar7125   20:35, September 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Regarding your theory on plasma, if Plasma were a nature in Naruto, I'm sure it would be composed of Wind, Fire and Lightning, being a Kekkei Tōta like Dust Release. In chemistry and physics, when either wind, fire or lightning are heated at a certain temperature, they ionize, yes, and take a form of plasma. Generally speaking, by the time a gas is hot enough to be seen, it’s a plasma. Fire and Lightning are already seen, so yes they are plasma. In the case of fire, however, it as to be heated and ionized a little more to classify as a plasma (for it is technically still a gas), whereas lightning automatically is a plasma. Wind has to be heated and ionized to a greater degree then fire, and when wind is heated to a certain temperature, it becomes as visible as fire and lightning are, and is known as a plasma called solar wind, if you will.
 * An advanced nature is created "by initiating more than one basic chakra nature transformation simultaneously." That's straight from the Nature Transformation article. If you want to get technical, Fire+Yin is more than one nature. It is one nature + Yin. Not necessarily two natures, although that's all we've seen and been confirmed of so far.
 * Madara's Yin and Lightning created Black Lightning. I need to check with @Tau to see if the raws said that. The scanalation stated it was black lightning, need to know if the raw stated so. Also, if I'm not mistaken, when Sasuke mixed his Yin Release, Six Paths Chakra and Lightning, he had a similar case like Madara. As for Kakashi, well that's something else altogether, I thought what Sasuke and Kakashi did was the same, but according to @Tau it's different.
 * I can see why the common guess is that Fire+Lightning make Explosion. This is a fact: "An explosion is a rapid increase in volume and release of energy in an extreme manner, usually with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases." This is also another fact, according to chemistry: "For the most part, fire is a mixture of hot gases." A third fact according to physics: "Plasma is the fourth fundamental state of matter, the others being solid, liquid and gas... Heating a gas may ionize its molecules or atoms (reducing or increasing the number of electrons in them), thus turning it into a plasma, which contains charged particles: positive ions and negative electrons or ions." If you heat a solid, it becomes a liquid. Heat a liquid, it becomes gas. Heat a gas, it becomes plasma. Plasma are heated gases. Fire and Lightning are already at a high temperatures and are heated gases (though lightning is more heated and is more qualified as a plasma than fire), but the reason why they aren't yet classified as explosive is because the hot gases aren't yet released at a certain velocity. They are at a condensed and compressed stage. When those hot gases in fire and lightning are released at high velocities/speeds, that qualifies as an explosion, according to chemistry.
 * I honestly think Magnet Release could be Earth and Lightning, but that's another debate, we haven't seen any Magnet Release users utilize lightning (or have we?).

...And that took a lot of research. -- WindStar7125   15:39, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

I personally hope that 4th databook comes rolling along... I think Fire+Lighting = Explosion because... well I don't have to elaborate any further, you read my long-ass explanation. But if Fire+Lightning = Explosion, that would also leave only 1 more advanced nature to go. But we'll see. :P -- WindStar7125   16:26, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Quick Suggestion
Can't you do that already?--~Ultimate Supreme  09:25, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, but you could still manually type it in like you did here--~Ultimate Supreme  10:09, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Naruto Tankobon omitted cover text
No idea, but I have plenty WSJ chapters, so if you're looking for something, just let me know and I'll check. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:51, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Didn't we already talk about that some year ago? Yes, I can confirm. It doesn't exactly say that he died 50 years ago, but it says that his cells live on even 50 years later (or something like that). • Seelentau 愛 議 12:35, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sakura Haruno 0_0
Yeah mine to. But now it is over. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 11:40, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum history
Yeah, the links on RecentChanges are generally unsuitable to use as they always link wrongly.

In regards to seeing the post, it is possible to see it in context. On the thread history, just click the number in the history log (like "Elveonora removed Haxs's message #9 ) and you'll be taken to the post in the thread where you can see it. I don't know why it doesn't show "This reply has been removed" in every thread, because I know some wiki's have it like this, but don't know how it's done.

I am working with UltimateSupreme to put in some minor customisations that make the forums more suitable to use for all, just takes time because it's all JS and has to conform to wikia's customisation policies. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 14:06, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree, however it might not be possible to multi-quote. I do know Wikia are doing some enhancements to the forum system, so this might be a good thing to suggest via S:C. Although, I have no issues with a user double posting to respond to different messages, but double posting to respond to the same post is not allowed, as is double posting for the sake of not editing. :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 14:14, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Neji
It's just the pronounciation. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:46, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * It can mean screw. Japanese words have multiple meanings, so if you actually say neji, you could be talking about the character or about the tool. In written language, it depends on how you write the word. The screw neji is usually written in Hiragana and not in Katakana, like Neji's name. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:16, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Can you back me up on the Naruto answers "What does Yin Release do directly?" page. Omega thinks that it wasn't Sasuke's rinnegan that allowed him to touch the chakra rods of Madara. He says i'm "assuming too much" Riptide240 (talk) 23:36, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Yea but i mean it's pretty obvious since Tobirama looked at his face and said "oh that's why" basically. lmaoo Riptide240 (talk) 11:50, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re Yang
The data books are far from reliable on much of anything these days, and all life is created from Yin and Yang, which is something we know directly from the manga.--Reliops (talk) 17:47, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Dude...
what's wrong with you today? Why're you so offensive to other users? First the one who asked for our opinions about the future of Naruto, and now the dude who wanted an explanation for a Japanese term. I typed it up already, but now it'S gone thanks to you. Calm down, please. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:58, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a lame excuse for being shit to others. Just because you've a job to do you don't have to be an ass. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:15, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Tau, go and tell that to TU3 and Snapper2: they're always an ass to everyone. xD --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:16, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not my fault children are so sensitive nowadays. If someone makes 5 pointless threads in a row, he won't be praised for that, unless you expect me to praise people for being stupid--Elve Talk Page 17:22, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

This needs attention
User Kris.gilson.12 has been questioning the content of Kakashi's article and has made edits like this. (No, I am not asking that he be blocked) He has made a talkpage topic here, in an attempt to get attention to what he sees as chronologically inconsistent information. According to him, he has put a similar topic on Kakashi's talkpage and been waiting a month for someone to respond, but with no avail. I've personally told him that I will make sure this topic gets attention (in order to stop him from removing the information). Please go to Kakashi's talkpage and respond to it. He has a point he'd like to make. Thanks for your time. • WindStar7125     02:51, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * (You didn't have to respond to me on this one) The only reason I took such actions was because he was basically vandalizing the wiki by removing valid content. You say you would have noticed anyway, he posted a similar topic a month ago, and no one noticed, according to him. I told him that I would make sure it was noticed. That is all. •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 12:01, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

New Idea
I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. Munchvtec (talk) 17:09, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hey Elve, wondering if we could have a chat about something on the chatbox? Thanks! --Sajuuk Talk Page 11:04, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, can you come on chat please? --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:46, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Damn, I didn't manage to catch ya. Able to come on ? --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:41, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

hey buddy...care to join the chat for a moment...I have some quetions :] --DARK ZER06 (talk) 10:52, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Just saw your message on the chat, can you come back on if possible? --Sajuuk Talk Page 12:03, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, able to chat? --Sajuuk Talk Page 18:47, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

care to go for a chat br0... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 20:20, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

hey bud...U in the mood to chat :]? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 13:43, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you come on chat quickly ? --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:41, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re: ORAS
I bought it some time ago for 200€ (Special Pikachu Edition), in preparation for XY. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:11, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't sold it and while it's rather short, it's also rather long. And the graphics is amazing. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:31, October 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:41, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

It's really, really long. Ten missions totally. But it gets boring after three or four. Basically, you start in Mossdeep City, meet with Steven Stone, fly to some island for some shitty reason (lost Pokémon, lost kid, this, that) on Latios and later Latias, and back. You get some items and a Glalile that you can transfer to the full game, and that's about it. The graphic is nice, as usual. On the touchscreen, the news is shown per default and you can sneak by pushing the control pad or whatever it's called, that looks funny. The menu and all that stuff got a new look, new pictures for trainer and everything. And that's about it. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:39, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!!!
Yo ... Elve-kun... How are you doing? Hoping that everything's alright. It's been a long while since our last talk. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 21:05, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Loool, so happy birthday and hoping all your wishes come true. About your answer, you can say that Sasuke saved me form losing my interest of the series. His revolution state makes the series more enjoyable, but I doubt that Kishi would solve all the series mysteries in just four chapters like Orochimaru's fate, Guruguru's final resolve and so on... — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 08:58, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also you brought up some events that weren't explained well in the manga. And yeah, Kakashi vs. Guruguru would make sense to test Kakashi's abilities for how he could handle the Hokage's title without obtaining Obito's power. I really missed the old Kakashi who used his "ninja" skills to handle the battles perfectly. Thanks for Kakashi Anbu anime filler arc that brought up some of those skills. The happy ending as you said isn't appropriate for this series at all and maybe Kishi was intending from the start that he continue the series by his new era project with some means like Dargonball's Toriyama did. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 09:30, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: life force
Nope, we don't have an article about it and it's not really used that much in the manga, is it? I can only remember it from Chiyo's technique... • Seelentau 愛 議 02:29, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum management
I actually thought I was allowed to do that. I'm removing only the most pointless stuff, like random "I want Sasuke's full body" and so. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:56, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sakura's Designs
A few posts on Tumblr as well as some photosets have brought light to Sakura's screwed-up anime design. It isn't as much "worse" as it is a lot of animation mistakes, as well as many minor differences that make her look different. I dislike her anime version since it's like really badly made and doesn't suit the original design. Her manga version was much prettier. She looked like a really pretty, pink-haired ballet dancer, and I wiiish the animators did that in the anime.

Here are the sources:

http://yourturntowatchmyback.tumblr.com/post/99971234000/an-anon-asked-me-to-give-a-comparison-of-sakuras

Aaaaannnd:

http://of-cherryblossoms.tumblr.com/post/100013747949/im-going-to-call-this-photoset-studio-pierrot

At this point, I think Kishi's coloring is pretty much ten times as awesome. Siiigh. At least her design in the movie does her justice. Lol. Chau, Elve! --Plane in the Desert (talk) 18:07, October 15, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert

Re: Chat
Yeah, I've noticed that... what's the problem by the way?? — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:33, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's see how the technical sysops deal with that. Hopefully it'll be fixed ASAP.. Didn't notice that as well since my long absence. Maybe they're thinking this wiki has refreshed type of chatting like in their wiki chats... Who knows??! — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:38, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, let's wait till tomorrow then... :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:43, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm quite excited for both of them tomorrow... After this chapter's release, only three ones are remaining... Time is running quite fast indeed. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:48, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * You have to hurry to catch up the remaining time of your day then.. Have a nice day!! See ya ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:53, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Synopsis
I'd agree with every point that you mentioned, Elve-kun. But as you know, in the outsourced episodes like today's one. The depiction of moving-mouth Kurama/Gyūki are disabled, and don't worry. We'll see it again in the next week. The first Gokage summit was depicted so nice indeed and Naruto's feelings sharing scene was done so well also.

About the latest chapter, just WOOW!! Sasuke becomes cooler and more amazing at everytime. His absorption technique was more badass than Nagato and Madara, thanks to his new Rinnegan abilites. Asura's inherent ability is expected from Naruto as well by using his own avatar. The most thing that makes me amazed for those latest chapters is the clashing scenes. Last week we saw a Susanoo Chidori vs. Bijūdama and now Susanoo Raiton Arrow vs. two variation of Rasenshuriken. Sasuke's new Susanoo is cool indeed, and seems it's already named here but I suggest to name it like "Sasuke's absorbed bijū chakra-based Susanoo". or something like that. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 21:09, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kishimoto seems loves to make the clashing between these two characters more amazing at everytime. Perhaps that Sasuke's still holding back by not using his Enton jutsu yet. Don't forget that Naruto was able to use every bit of the nine bijū chakra for his fight against Kaguya, so we may finally see a counterattack for Sasuke's attack. Let's wait for the next chapter to see how this clash ends, I think it'll contain some flashbacks of course. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:27, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

gender
are you male or female

Re: Nintendo 3ds question
Yes of course, why wouldn't it? • Seelentau 愛 議 20:36, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re: raws for latest chapters
What's been unclear? • Seelentau 愛 議 23:13, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, right now, I'm at my gf's place so I don't have access to the raws. If you want me to translate something, tell me and I'll see what I can do. I'm thinking of the "Kurama gathering natural energy" case as well as "Sasuke being on RS level". I think there were some mistranslations there. Also, the sentence I attributed to Naruto was really said by Sasuke. Seems like he can sense natural energy, by whatever means. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:18, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Sooo, I'm back at home. Whatcha want? • Seelentau 愛 議 16:29, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I still don't have a fixed copy of that chapter, but I don't think it was the Wet Bones Forest. A script I read only used the word for forest, too.
 * Heh, I see why you want to get that translated. The Kanji used is indeed mother, but it is read as Kaguya. I have no clue how to translate it, though. Something about that Sasuke is also someone that understands Kaguya's false love or so. Do you know how mangastream translated it?
 * He says something like "I began with the Sharingan and now got the power of the Rinnegan in my hands, too. I'm already immortal...". I don't think he means immortal as in won't die of natural causes, but as in won't die in battle because of his strength.
 * Kurama says "This is bad... he's combining the split chakras into one. And he's doing it more than well... as if he was on old man Six Paths' level... just... that he's doing it the opposite way.". I think Sasuke used some kind of reverse COAT here.
 * Absorb? You mean gather? Yes, apparently, it can. It gathered all natural energy that was on the earth.
 * Tomorrow. :) • Seelentau 愛 議 18:35, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Will do. He probably translated it already.
 * Well yes, but why would the Rinnegan make someone suddenly immortal?
 * Splitting the chakras is not a part of COAT, so combining them again wouldn't be, either.
 * There's still no manga definition of what a sage actually is. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:00, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but Sasuke's eye lacks three tomoe.
 * Everyone has, these days.
 * You're misunderstanding that Kanji. It doesn't mean that the diagram is what a sage is. The Kanji simply means that Senjutsu chakra is made of those three energies. If it would be just about Ninjutsu, there'd be a diagram of two energies and the Kanji for Nin below. So it's not about the human, but about Senjutsu chakra. I actually think we shouldn't use that term, as well as pseudo jinchuriki (aside from Sora) and tailed beast skill. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:32, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * If that's true, then why is it the case?
 * It's not my interpretation. It's just that I probably have a better understanding of texts and pictures than you, don't know. And I remember Fukasaku's statement, but I also remember it being mistranslated. I can't even find it in the sage training chapters. The only thing that I know about sages is that they need to be gutsy or whatever. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:27, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I hope I didn't offend you with my words about understanding.^^ Anyway, Fukasaku says "The evidence of a sage, the markings, successfully appeared!" or "The evidence of a sage, the markings appeared. It's a success!". Nothing about a perfect sage or anything. So even if we want to use the term sage canonically, we'd have to exclude everyone who doesn't have the markings. I believe this is further proof that using senjutsu =/= being a sage. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:24, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...why wouldn't he? • Seelentau 愛 議 21:52, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Check it again. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * The lines, yes. They're contract blood to summon the toads. But he has the markings, too. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:20, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Check chapter 377 for your answer. You'll see that he only looked like that after he absorbed more natural energy to use his giant Rasengan. Before doing that, he looked like Naruto and Minato, too. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:36, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, they obviously aren't the only ones. But that's the only defining trait we have to classify people as sages. We should abide it at least until db 4. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:53, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's saying "This is one of the Rinnegan's occular powers...... The Uchiha's... that clan's eye that I have on hand... will make my victory certain...". MS effed up, MR is correct, basically. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:10, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. The "eyes" were always on the Uchiha side, while the "body" was on the Senjuzumaki side. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:44, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto flight tecnique
So in the latest episode, Naruto attacked Obito, missed and then changed direction in mid air. The scene is at 9:12 if you want to check it out. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:16, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay fair enough --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:24, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Arrow
And who is to say that is the name of the arrow, hm? Sasuke could literally be saying it is an arrow that belongs to Indra. Given. The whole Yata Mirror/Totsuka Sword scenario, it's entirely plausible. So yes, in a sense, you could say labeling Indra a user is jumping the gun. But it's no more jumping the gun that assuming that's its name. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 14:55, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chikara "again"
Yeah, just watched it and yeah. Kabuto just transformed into his current appearance by Orochimaru-Style Body Replacement Technique after suffering some pains inside his body. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 17:16, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Or to be more exact, he just transformed like he did when he captured Yamato in the Island Turtle. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 17:18, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Check it out. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 17:36, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know as well, but perhaps that Orochimaru's cells play a major rule for absorbing the natural energy for Kabuto's case. Since Orochimaru as known attempted to absorb/learn senjutsu in the past but he couldn't because of his body at that time, so does that mean if Orochimaru was familiar with using the senjutsu and how to adsorb it leads that to be a sage even with that trial? — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 17:59, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Totally agreed. Let's see how the databook will deal with this issue then. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:07, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: databook info
Free free to revert my edits then since it's obvious. Less than two weeks and we'll know everything. ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 22:04, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Hemophobia
I am sorry for eavesdropping, but your message to Shakhmoot made me worried. Are you okay man? :/ Norleon (talk) 22:47, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * That sounds serious. I actually know that sensation, I lost consciousness twice after sitting several hours in a car doing nothing. During a break, I stood up too quickly, my systemic circulation couldn't keep up and I found myself on the floor again. The first time, my family said I was like sleepwalking towards the cliff (we were in the Alps at that time) before they could stop me and I collapsed - therefore, I am very wary of it. My mother too has hemophobia and even passes out when seeing her own blood, so I know how much of a pain it is. If it really happens at least once to you per week, I would seriously think about trying a therapy. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything else, pulling off a Tsunade will most likely not work in real life. Otherwise, I would've done that with my arachnophobia a long time before. Norleon (talk) 23:10, October 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hemophobia is a natural phenomena that affects most of people and the environment that you live plays a major rule for how to deal with it. So for example, if your brother/sister/father/mother/relative is a doctor, he/she shouldn't ever suffering for that phenomena because his job requires that he/she deals with the blood with ease. So, to overcome that phenomena you must avoid the reasons/events/sources that makes the blood spreading or something like that. If you go to psychiatric, he will give you some medicines but the side effects will be difficult to deal in the later stages of the cure as well as the additional costs. Just avoid, that how to overcome. A question, do you have a needlephobia? — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 11:12, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Aah, I fear heights as well, I can't even stand when somebody near me leans over the edge or holds something over it, like a camera to shoot downwards. And I wouldn't laugh, it's a kind of disorder after all, nothing to laugh at. I would take it seriously. Norleon (talk) 20:31, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Tailed Beast genders
Where exactly? Because I read the TB articles, and they're all referred to as "it." • WindStar7125     15:48, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Before you call me stupid, I only see the gender thing on Shukaku, Isobu, Son Goku, Kokuo, Chomei, and Gyuki. And if you decide to put genders in their infoboxes, don't have the article refer to them as "it." Use "he" or "she." • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:54, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Non-human animals are referred to as "it" even when they are confirmed to have genders? Not where I'm from, but that's none of my business. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:59, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * But I've also heard the phrases "it's a girl" or "it's a boy," but whatever. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 16:03, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi's sword
You were right about Itachi's sword only appearing in the manga but why is the Sword of Totsuka in that section? Itachi's susanoo sword is depicted as a sharp blade and the Sword of Totsuka is basically a sword on fire. The look nothing alike and the only similarities in appearance they share is the size and thats it. So im asking can we remove it from the susanoo sword section because there's no point in depicting a wrong sword. --Bio havik (talk) 12:10, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Umm i was talking about the depiction of the swords, not what they are made out of? So i ask you the same question regarding the 2 swords looking nothing alike. --Bio havik (talk) 12:27, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: technically
…huh? :D • Seelentau 愛 議 14:29, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for butting in, but yes. Nine-Tails Chakra Mode could be compared to Version 1 while the chakra shroud Naruto has while in Tailed Beast Mode could be thought of as Version 2, since it's the Nine-Tails' power condensed in a human body.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:40, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * JOA20 1 Seelentau 0--Elve Talk Page 10:41, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: bot
Here is how bots work. :P It's what replaced all articles with the phrase "Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc" with "Final Arc." And it can do more. ^_^ Not sure if UltimateSupreme will use it to simply replace "learned" with "learnt" throughout the wiki... You might just have to change them to "learnt" yourself... • WindStar7125     12:01, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: comment removal
The only way to see which comment he removed is to hover over the timestamp on the posts and make note of every id in the url bit at the bottom. If it jumps (eg, it goes from 6 to 8), just type #X into the address bar at the end of the url (where X is the missing ID) and it should take you to the post with a button to restore it. For some reason, Wikia made a change which now hides the removal/restoration from thread history, which makes little sense.... :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:20, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Turns out it was this post, which I must have removed at the exact same time as he did. No worries, it was pointless anyway xD
 * And I would have liked the previous system to still be around, but oh well. The other way is to simply load the history and click the ID's at random (#X is an id) from the thread history page and see if it says it was removed. :/ --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:25, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: questions
I'll answer all your questions in this one header :D I hope this helps. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:33, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) The edit button does work, you just have to hover right across the word or it doesn't work. Not sure why though.
 * 2) I'll poke UltimateSupreme to fix the tags on the forums. :)
 * 3) I moved them out like that just to give me some ideas for topic placement. It's easy for me to merge a board at a later point, I just needed some visual way to see topic placements for the Naruto Discussions.
 * 4) Regarding protected pages: Special:ProtectedPages.
 * I understand some boards look redundant. In regards to the Naruto 7 discussions, that is better kept separate so that it's easier to find all new information about it, as it becomes available. Once it's released, the topics will likely be merged back into Naruto Discussions, but for now, separating them is better. Especially as it will help some users to filter topics they don't want to see, but answer the legitimate questions about the series. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:44, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that kind of thread would best go under the "Theories / Speculations" board. :)
 * Also, I don't know who is going to get the new "forummod" flag, but I will likely petition for both you and WindStar to receive that flag so you can get extra tools in the forums. --Sajuuk Talk Page 14:58, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thread moving request
Hi. This is a call to some of the active rollbacks who contribute in the forums. With the amount of threads in Board:Naruto Discussions, it is impossible for myself and WindStar7125 to move all of them. Please look through the discussions in Board:Naruto Discussions and move them to an appropriate forum. It will be much appreciated by me and WindStar7125 if you can assist. If you have any questions, please reply to this message on my talkpage. Thank you. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:27, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Even if the topic shows a notice saying it's an old topic, it should still be moved to an appropriate board. If one can't be found, leaving it in Naruto Discussions is fine, but do endeavour to find a place for all the topics if possible. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 10:10, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Haha, that's fine. It's gonna take a while, which is why I needed to ask for assistance of some rollbackers to sort it all out, too many threads! D: --Sajuuk Talk Page 10:34, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: undocumented books and novels
I do, actually. A while back I was actually thinking about creating a series of sub-articles for Tales of a Gusty Ninja, so they'd be organized seperately from the rest of the wiki articles that deal with the canon Naruto series. IE: "Tales of a Gutsy Ninja/Naruto Mususabi" and "Tales of a Gutsy Ninja/Renge Momoashi." The main issue is that I haven't actually read the novel, so my knowledge is only second hand. Same for the other book(s). FF-Suzaku (talk) 22:09, October 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 4th databook peek
Did you see my post in the thread today? Try and find it :P — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 14:49, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * We got only few pages of the databook and look at you, so if the entire databook is released suddenly, what should I do for you then? :D — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 14:53, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and wondering how Kakashi Anbu filler arc connects with that as well. But anyhow, let's see.. About the advanced natures, it make me curious about their abilities and methods... Wow, November will be a hot month for this wiki :P — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:01, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Where? where? where? — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:04, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems fake to me because the furigana (the small hiragana letter besides the kanji) aren't there in the writing. Usually, they put it in their writings to clarify the words, but it's not true for this case. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:12, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re: human origins
Yes. By Otsutsuki? No. They only came after the Shinju grew, which only happened after mankind's bloodshed. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:15, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * sigh* If Otsutsuki made them, it would've been said in that text. It didn't, so you can be 99.99999999% sure that they didn't create mankind. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:22, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * This is the whole text. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:28, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re:ootsutsuki clan
You mean the template I added? It's not supposed to be visible.--LeafShinobi (talk) 19:40, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. Then I too suppose we just have to wait.--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:35, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

You were right
Not trying to feed your ego too much, but I'll admit, you were correct in the sense that Naruto's usage of the TSB is not a KM (just like Roshi can use Lava Release, just not the KG Lava Release, doesn't stem from his bloodline, but Son Goku's). The Kekkei Mōra TSB doesn't stem from a jinchūriki's bloodline, so neither Naruto, Obito or Madara have the KM TSB, they just have the TSB. The KM TSB stems from a TB's "bloodline," and Kaguya is the Ten-Tails. Seems like Only Kaguya and Hagoromo (given he used it before becoming a jinchūrki in chapters 670 and 690) have the KM TSB because both have Kaguya's bloodline. You were correct. ^_^ • WindStar7125     05:16, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: an observation
I try. What have you seen from me? • WindStar7125
 * You should also take a look at both our profile pages... :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:03, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

may question is Where in the databooks is it said the stats are base level? it doesn't for all we know those stats could be when the person is at there most powerful with enhancements. now i am not saying that the stats are im just saying there is nothing that indicates that the stats are just the base level. Actionmanrandell (talk) 16:22, November 3, 2014 (UTC)actionmanrandellActionmanrandell (talk) 16:22, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hagoromo's power and Yin-Yang
I asked FF-Suzaku this. No need to create a "Re: " on my page, he already responded. What is your opinion on the matter? • WindStar7125     20:39, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Good, because I already added Yang and Yin-Yang to Sasuke's infobox due to the databook saying that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang Release and Hagoromo himself confirming that he gave Naruto and Sasuke the same amount of power in chapter 693.


 * Edit: My best answer to your question is that Wind is Naruto's affinity and the only element he could use by himself before gaining Yin-Yang Release from Hagoromo's power and the other four elements from the tailed beasts. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:12, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

RE: magnet release
im not sure if my reply was sent buuut id like to apologize on that i thought i read somewhere that magnet was lighting and wind when i looked back at it i completely erased that it was wind and lightning and fixed my mistake and id like to apologize for my error aswell as giving the 4th kazekage lightning release :) so again sorry

RE: Guruguru/Tobi
Nvm that Dude, I misunderstood the whole thing. 【I'm just... Mad | 語聞見】 16:29, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Thread
Yo dude! What do you think about this? Thread:152322 ~ IndxcvNovelist →rollbacker • talk • contribs • watty← 19:29, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: synopsis
I don't know how to describe it, Elve-kun. But really I'll miss the fabulous artwork of Kishi that he do for his series. I'll admit that his artwork is beyond amazing and he does improve it quite fast during those years. The plot was predictable for me and I was just waiting how Kishi would handle it and I conclude that he did a good work for that part. My rating for Kishi's Naruto will be as follows: For the anime, recently I'm just looking forward to the gap between 699 and 700. But let's see how the anime will handle the next battles especially Guy vs. Madara because it's the closest main battle for the anime right now. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 23:04, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Characters designs and artworks: +11/10
 * Storyline plots and events coherence: 8/10
 * Characters personalities/powers developments: 9/10
 * Stoyline Unpredictability: 6/10
 * Thanks for giving me your opinions about the series and how you evaluated it perfectly at least for me. Yeah, of course I didn't predict anything like Jūbi → Hagoromo → Kaguya → Black Zetsu, especially that black Zetsu... Waiting for more than millennium for his mom's revival and then he's been fodderized by Naruto and Sasuke in just minutes. LOL xD ... But anyway, Kishi's style was quite perfect for me. Wow!!! Obito's final words, Sasuke's revolution words, Itachi's words to Kabuto that he's the weakness of Edo Tensei, Pain's words to Naruto ... and many many other scenes.... Missing them so much indeed :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 22:32, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Heeh, today's episode did a good job for that sensation... Rin was awesome in it. The anime added great touches to those scene to make it remarkable... Still we have the next episode to see the sorrowful of that love to be ended (At least no for you :D) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 22:39, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: a question
I checked the hiragana and matches what Tau-senpai supposed in his translation thread, seems that Suzaku-san did a mistake for getting the correct hiragana when he named it firstly to Sō. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 11:38, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

re: infobox
Correct. Although it's not immediate; it takes at most 24 hours for them to appear. Then if the page is moved it may take another 24 hours. ~SnapperTo 17:55, November 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * They appear immediately in the infobox if added manually, so there's that benefit. But then they need to be removed later.
 * There isn't really a good alternative. If you remove the manual additions and tell people to wait, they'll just add it again. At which point the only solution is to protect the infobox temporarily, but then a sysop is needed for any other edits that may be needed in that 24 hour period. ~SnapperTo 20:57, November 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Since they're [eventually] added automatically, adding them manually means they later need to be removed because there will be two listings. ~SnapperTo 21:20, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

"the last chapter" discussion
i wasnt discussing about the chapter, i was trying to know how many people liked it or hated it Arabian Ninja (talk) 09:27, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Genjutsu
Yeah, that seems to be the case. Some Genjutsu may incorporate other natures (perhaps even Yang), but they're fundamentally Yin Release at the most basic level. FF-Suzaku (talk) 01:58, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

ch 699 question coloured Guruguru
The guruguru colour is green in ch 699 of manga Is it coloured guruguru? or was it the colour from the tree? anyway is the source reliable? so can I edit for appearance? or should I wait? Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 20:34, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Help with fixing links
Can you help me to fix up the renaming of this and |this? I mixed them up and tried to rename them and i screwed some things over.. xDDD I would appreciate your help.--Omojuze (talk) 21:13, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * No I didn't lol. Can you remove the periods. I made a mess with the moving.. xDD I'm really sorry 'bout that xD--Omojuze (talk) 21:20, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

re: Garuda manga
I fail to see any major differences between each of the images. They look literally the same person. Also, with image file names, we don't use talkpages to rename them, they just get moved to new file names. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:28, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I looked several times and didn't notice any differences that warrants having the manga image on the infobox. I may start a talkpage discussion to garner a community consensus, as the differences seem quite minor and could easily be mentioned in the trivia section. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:44, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, there should be only a single image in the infobox imo, tabbing was really only to keep "certain" people happy. :/ --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:49, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to remove the anime image and move it to the main article as a trivia note. It's fine with me (and the community would probably be ok with it as well). --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:52, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

re: msg
What do you mean by this? o.O --Sajuuk Talk Page 22:24, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Magnet Release
So you felt the need to close my thread. You say it ran long enough. It hasn't even run a day. You are really full of it and this is why I see why people get upset at you. You never take the time to see others point of view. You always feel that your opinion is superior. A couple of people disagreed and others agreed or felt iffy. Why stop it there when it could of ran longer and have others input. Rachin123 (talk) 20:23, November 14, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
 * 2nded. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:26, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not blaming you for saying its Wind and Earth. It is not Wind and Earth, at least not a 100%. More like 10% if anything. Kishi has done it many of times. He has contradicted himself, created plot holes, etc. Understandable that he made a databook however he can make mistakes and has. There is something to argue about. Just because you don't believe so doesn't mean anything. Who do you really think you are? You have some nerve. Rachin123 (talk) 20:38, November 14, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Here you go. The author never stated Magnet Release being combined with earth and wind so stop with the bs. We assumed however logically the assumption makes no sense. What do you mean its not the right time? Its the perfect time. Is there a dign saying wait for a specific time to bring it up. Yoy are more self indulged than I thought. I honestly do not believe you deserve the right to be a Forum Moderator. Rachin123 (talk) 20:51, November 14, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

You don't how utterly ridiculous you sound. "He stated it through Rasa." Smh. The fact that even Rasa never stated it nor did Kishi actually put this as a "fact", brings up opposing things. The whole it's wind and earth combinations is probably the most illogical thing you can believe. This is a arguable situation. I perfectly see where you and a few others are coming from but you fail to see where we are coming from. All you keep saying is "canon" this, "canon" that. Overusing the word. If it was as easy as you say, Kishi could've easily made the combinations of Magnet Release. But he didn't. Why? Because obviously he didn't think of it or didn't care to. I'm not asking you to listen to me but to listen to "logic". Are you aware with that term? I'm not asking we chnage it to lightning and earth but that way take away the elements. Put it in the trivia and say it's possible the natures consist of these natures as such. Rachin123 (talk) 03:19, November 15, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Hm I like sarcasm, not. Anyways I could care far less about Kishi, never mind not meeting the guy. What I care about is series. Yes he didn't state that Boil equals water and fire but common freaking sense knows what causes vapor and what it is. It's perfectly logical reasoning behind it. If you listened I said it's fine if we bring theories to the articles but have good reasonings. All you and a few others had to say was Gaara and Rasa both have Earth and Wind Release without even looking at the failed logic behind it and the possibility of Kishi screwing up. You need to pay attention more and get your head out of the gutter because you are misinterpreting what I'm saying. Not to mention the fact is that you want to remove an important discussion despite the fact that a few people agreed than disagreed with me on it. It could've kept going but I'm assuming you are stubborn and don't like losing or seeing others point of view. Like I said we could've came to a compromise and just removed the elements of it and put it in trivia. Rachin123 (talk) 15:24, November 15, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

re: akame's block
His first block was for a week, as it's the second block it increased to 2 weeks. He obviously didn't read the forum policy at all in his first block as he essentially trolled in threads. I will think it over and consider reducing to another week block, but his actions of restoring his own posts, then removing my own, were disruptive. --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:37, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * I reduced his block to one week. Now get on chat m8 ;) --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:47, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: section headers
no problem. Munchvtec (talk) 18:47, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: hello
Hi, Elveonora. I'm sorry that this is months late, but as you have noted, I have not been here for a while. However, be assured, as I have dropped in occasionally to observe progress; I've just been quite busy with studies and work, but you are also right about me somewhat giving up on Naruto - It's not entirely true, as I have enjoyed the series, but I had to lay off for a bit because my expectations and attachments had become too large. Of course, I have also been following the series, and while there were large disappointments along the way, I feel alright with how it ended.

I had also been working as a translator for the Korean webcomic series Tower of God, so that was also a thing that had me occupied.

To try and answer your questions: Again, I apologize for being so late; I may be around a tad bit more often, so please do feel free to chat me up. --GoDai (talk) 03:46, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I still personally feel like black lightning was meant to be the Lightning variant of Amaterasu. Seeing how the recent databook translations by Seelentau have revealed Amaterasu and Blaze Release to just be a stronger modified Fire, I'd imagine that black lightning was intended to be a stronger Lightning Release in a similar manner.
 * My current guess for "Magnet Release" is that it isn't the simplest form of magnetism that we imagine. While magnetism falls under it, I'm guessing that the "磁" may have been expanded to include "forces" (all that Naruto science) that move other metallic or earthen materials. As far as I'm aware, gold is only weakly diamagnetic as well, but it was controlled on almost the same scale as iron sand was. In conclusion, I believe that this is just like the Lava, Storm and Boil Releases in that its name isn't always literally what it does (I was always a fan of the "The nature name is only symbolic" thing.). While unconfirmed, I believe that the appearance of Magnetism+sand on Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken is good evidence for believing that that is how sand is manipulated.
 * I have no choice but to concede to Kishi's classification of Blaze Release. One of the minor reasons for my leave was because coming here too often twisted and limited my thoughts, and I often found clarity when I had ceased rambling on in a hurry to fill ideas. At this stage, considering the general connotation of the character "炎" (flame) in Japanese, Chinese and Korean, it makes the most sense for it to be a stronger Fire, and nothing more. I would, however, still assume that "Blaze" is Sharingan-based, since I don't imagine Sasuke using it without the dōjutsu. However, we'll probably never know.
 * The pattern theory (if true at all) requires that that Wind+Lightning be "Wind modified by Lightning" or "Wind with properties of Lightning", so as long as your interpretation of Magnetism agrees with this, it seems possible to not disagree. However, I would personally stick to Lightning+Earth, although I have no idea how Kishi views Magnetism.
 * (Of course, the recent revelation that it's highly likely to be Earth+Wind kills our discussion, I suppose.)
 * I was once a proponent of the idea that Fire+Lightning=Blaze, because I felt that lightning's charged plasma nature would "enhance" fire to produce solar plasma, which in this case was expressed as black flames (because Kishi thinks black fire looks cool). In an alternative interpretation, Amaterasu is only fire, but so hot that it's charged - Lightning thus allows one to manipulate it. (Not that any of this is valid anymore, seeing the recent classifications.) If this was true, however, it would not disagree with the pattern theory.

If I'm correct...
According to chapter 681, page 3, Sasuke said that Hagoromo granted them their abilities. So why exactly are people assuming Sasuke got the Rinnegan from Hashi's cells (when Indra and Asura's chakras were stated to move on), or that it's unknown how Naruto and Sasuke got their demigod-like abilities? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Edit: and probably after you get 60 headers, I suggest you archive your page (. It's gotten long and has me like: ಠ_ಠ ~• WS7125 [Mod] 07:37, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought so. I just find it funny how it was literally stated in the manga and that fact was ignored or so.
 * Edit: Popular assumption? Ah ok. Then help me out with this please. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 16:07, November 27, 2014 (UTC)