Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-27823212-20160403231418

UltimaDude wrote: You are blatantly ignoring the fact that it was been stated/shown in the manga and databook that it was Hagoromo who granted Naruto his SPSM. The Bijuu had nothing to do with it, except enhancing it. Heck, Naruto used SPSM in Gaiden and the Boruto movie and there was no mention of the other Bijuu and he was drawing chakra only from Kurama. Bijuu chakra doesn't make up SPS, otherwise Naruto didn't use it in Gaiden and the Boruto movie Nope, it was never stated that the form came from Hagoromo's chakra. The form was stated to be a "gift from Hagoromo", but that doesn't imply that Hagoromo's gift=his chakra. Hagoromo made him the meeting point of the Biju, therefore "gifting" him with the form.

The source of Naruto's mode was already blatantly stated to be the Biju, while Hagoromo's chakra isn't stated or implied in any official material to be the source of Naruto Six Paths senjutsu.

Naruto in the Gaiden & Boruto possesses the chakra of all the Biju. He is their meeting point.

He can draw upon their chakra at will to enter the form. He doesn't have to talk about it when it was already established. That's ridiculous. So you are just continuing making claims without any evidence? The manga showed otherwise So you physically saw Asura awaken Six Paths Senjutsu from a random chakra handout that Hagoromo gave him?

Right, I didn't think so. Using Naruto as the basis, Asura awakened Six Paths Senjutsu due to possessing the chakra of the Biju. Otherwise, it wasn't shown how Asura awakened it, so he is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. Can you read? I said without Hag chakra, Sasuke wouldn't be able to awaken the Rinnegan. How Hagoromo granted him chakra is irrelevant That's not even what you were saying to begin with. You stated that half of Hagoromo's chakra being the seals would mean that Sasuke's Rinnegan would've disappeared after Six Paths CT, yet that makes no sense since the eye sustains itself by producing it's own chakra. Read above You countered nothing, so either concede or formulate an argument that makes sense. Annnd you're ignoring facts. Hagoromo granted them chakra, which gave them powers and it was those powers that they used to fight one another This is the second time that you've blatantly ignored the official statements that I have posted.

Sasuke's Chidori is black when he uses Hagoromo's chakra from the Moon seal, yet when he faces Naruto, it's white. He wasn't using this imaginary chakra and neither was Naruto. He was shown using a Chidori empowered by Hagoromo one time and that was when he was drawing chakra from the Moon seal.

Somehow you're still going to claim that they were fighting with this imaginary "Hagoromo chakra half" even though it was already blatantly shown otherwise. Yet, Sasuke was able to feel Naruto's chakra that was in another dimension, despite the fact that he isn't a sensor. Ignoring established facts isn't helping your argument Because of the resonance of Yin & Yang aka the fragment of Hagoromo's power that Naruto mentioned and felt Sasuke through earlier.

Did you even read the statement that I posted?

The seals were not the power that Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke, it was SPSM and the Rinnegan, it was been stated many times in the manga and was well stated in the databook. What? It's already been stated that Hagoromo gifted Naruto & Sasuke with Six Paths Sage Mode & the Rinnegan respectively.

It was also stated that he gave each a fragment of his power which were the seals, referred to as sealing keys in the databook.

Fragments of Hagoromo's power were already stated to be the seals. Half of Hagoromo's chakra has absolutely nothing to do with Naruto & Sasuke's powers.

> Wow, such a hypocrite Are you blind? Did you not see Naruto in his initial SPSM when he first overwhelmed Madara and resuscitated Gai? No "all Bijju chakra". The eyes are made of Kurama's and those of Toad Sage Mode users. It proves that it doesn't require the chakra all all of the Bijuus This is Naruto just using SPSM, without any Bijuu chakra. This is the result of Naruto using SPSM in conjunction with the chakra of the nine Bijuus. And lastly, these are examples of Naruto using SPSM in conjuction with only Kurama's chakra Becoming a TTJ automatically grants a person SPS, but doesn't mean that SPS is made of Bijuu chakra. Insulting my intelligence and becoming a hypocrite is sooo not helping your case

How on earth are you asserting that Naruto using Six Paths Sage Mode without his cloak isn't using the Biju's chakra when he was blatantly shown using Son Goku's chakra for Yoton Rasenshuriken and he has Biju-sage cross-eyes?

Is the Ten Tails the amalgamation of the power of all the Biju? Yes Does the Ten Tails grant Six Paths Senjutsu to it's Jinchuriki? Yes Does Naruto possess the power of all the Biju? Yes Was Naruto stated to possess Hagoromo's senjutsu since he was a vessel for the Ten Tails' power via the 9 Biju? Yes

There isn't anything to discuss here.

How long are you going to keep putting up this farce?