Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26107879-20160111201526

This debate is still going? Okay Itachi wins. Fact, Itachi can use multiple Amaterasu blasts, Tsukuyomi, sealing, fire techniques, and multiple Genjutsu attacks in one fight while dying. Also he is a high Genjutsu expert and can even reflect Genjutsu. According to everyone who seems to agree on this debate is Jiraiyas only hope is the Sound Genjutsu and/or Sage Mode. Someone a few months ago tried to argue with me about Itachi's Amaterasu usage and I don't really care what they had to say cause they sounded like a Jiraiya fan boy trying to downplay Itachi who used immense abilities against a powerful Shinobi he wasn't even trying to kill but push Orochimaru out to kill while on deaths bed, a feat amazing alone especially making sure not to hit his brother with Amaterasu showing he has a good degree of control over these flames. Amaterasu does spread, so once the toads are hit especially if hit on the torso, they're pretty much done for. Jiraiya would have to seal the flames which takes time and would need his hands to do thus cancelling summong Ma and Pa for Sage or The Genjutsu. Everyone should understand one fact. Jiraiya HAS to summon the Toad sages, while his hands are not useable but clapped together. He cannot enter sage mode while trying to dodge Itachi without them. So the giant toads who move slow vs Amaterasu which moves somewhat fast, is a non debate, Amaterasu wins. Don't use Sasuke Amaterasu dodging feats, Itachi /was not/ trying to kill him. Amaterasu /would/ have killed him if he was hit. Now another thing, everyone does not know if the Sound Genjutsu can even work on Itachi, Nagato wasn't said to have feats in Genjutsu, Itachi is and supposed to be a mastered who easily overwhelmed Orochimaru with one shot and killed him when he appeared out of Sasuke, someone Jiraiya spent a lifetime competing with. Jiraiya needs time, around 30 minutes-an hour or two to summon the Toad Sages, Itachi is also said to be fast. Without Summonings can Jiraiya really avoid Itachi's Genjutsu who just needs to point his finger to trap him. The giant toads would be burnt in a second once they are conjured. Jiraiya without Sage stands no chance. People greatly underestimate Genjutsu because of Dojutsu, but it literally has some of the most powerful techniques in the series. Now I'm just stating this i like Jiraiya way more then Itachi. I actually dislike the Uchihas and feel that their abilities as well as Otsu's are op. But even so i go off facts. I just don't see how my boy Jiraiya can win unless a certain terrain was available to help hide. Jiraiya is by far one of my favs, he's a person without a special power who rose to being one of the greatest Shinobi through actual hard work. I feel Naruto had an advantage with NineTails and was somewhat special with his Asura reserves. Jiraiya had no special powers. However the Uchiha abilities are too op, and I'll side with them because ik its the truth. I'm not biased.