Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26388300-20160524034125/@comment-26773508-20160524232345

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: if I remember correctly that Susanoo of madara had kurama encased and clearly kurama was enhancing both madara and his so called armored Susanoo and I am pretty much sure that PS was able to survive the hit was mostly due to kurama's enhancing chakra.[think of how kurama's yang chakra protecting people during 4th great ninja war now think how much more it will be enhanced when complete kurama is providing chakra to a single person] So at best madara's PS taking hit from TBB in this case is not a very good feat. whereas madara's fight with hashirama's wood golem+wood dragon combo clearly shows that PS is an equal match for this combo.(i.e. during 4th GNW) It's debatable whether Kurama actually enhanced Madara's Complete Body Susanoo. If you look at Chapter 620 Page 18, you'll see that Madara is using his Armored Susanoo, and NOT Majestic Attire: Susanoo. However, the Susanoo in that manga page is very close to Kyuubi. The chapter ends at that page and in Chapter 621 Page 3, we see the continuation of the fight, where we now see Madara's Armored Susanoo quite a distance away from the Kyuubi. So that means Kurama wasn't engulfed inside Madara's Majestic Attire: Susanoo when the Susanoo tanked the TBB. It was immediately after the Armored Susanoo tanked the TBB that Madara used Majestic Attire: Susanoo to completely engulf Kurama. So it seems debatable whether Kurama enhanced the Armored Susanoo at all.

Either way, Minato without Kurama isn't going to do jack shit against EMS Madara. The moment Minato throws his marked kunai all around the battlefield is the moment he gives the clue to his main fighting style away. EMS Madara knows about the Flying Raijin. He'll immediately realize what Minato is doing. And I'm pretty sure Madara will realize the moment he gets tagged, IF he gets tagged. Madara may be brash and arrogant, but he is very intelligent. Madara has seen enough of Tobirama to know the basics of the Flying Raijin. Hell, he even knew how to release oneself from the control of Edo Tensei.

Plus Minato's hugeass rasengan isn't killing Madara. Also, Madara is a very good sensor, so he'll know if Minato teleports above or behind him, but it's highly debatable if he'll be able to react on time. Flying Raijin is instantaneous. But if we take Sasuke vs Itachi as a reference point, then we see that Itachi activated his Susanoo fast enough to shield himself from Kirin, whose striking speed is like 1/1000th of a second or something like that. So Madara might be able to summon his ribcage Susanoo the instant Minato appears with a hugeass rasengan above him. And against someone of Madara's caliber, Minato will be able to hit him only once, with the Rasengan only injuring Madara a little bit. Madara isn't falling for another Flying Raijin+Rasengan trick for a second time.

@QuakingStar: I don't think Hanzo is above EMS Madara. If he were, he too would be called a God of Shinobi. But he isn't. Plus a rusty Hanzo lost way too easily to Mifune. I don't think his Prime self would be able to do anything against EMS Madara. So Hanzo should be 2nd-tier at best, and EMS Madara top-tier.