Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200715142058/@comment-45444155-20200720220348

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

1) description of Yomotsu Hirasaka in the data book. Nothing in there about sharingan

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Mention of Rinnegan (Sasuke) and Sharingan (Hagoromo) in the manga. What are you even talking about?

ReweR 1331 wrote:

1.1) and I repeat my question, what is Rinnegan then and what is Sharingan in Rinne-Sharingan Kaguya? Rinne Shaingan is its own Dojutsu that later got broken down into Sharingan and Rinnegan

ReweR 1331 wrote:

2) and sometimes, that there is no fact, there is only your opinion. So you are saying it is not a fact that Sasuke's Rinnegan being capable of using EMS powers isnt unique? Ok

Enter Urashiki with a Tomoe Rinnegan and no Sharingan powers at all

ReweR 1331 wrote:

3) OMG, Gaiden directly showed how activating the EMS returned the tomoe to Rinnegan. You wanna ignore that, you wanna ignore that.  There are no other interpretations here. It showed him activating his MS as his tome returned. He even says "my eye powers have returned" and then activates his EMS.

You are linking these two seperate events to be reliant on one another because they happened at the same time.

But you want to ignore every single time Sasuke is shown to have tomoe and no active MS in favor of the one time he activated EMS at the same time his Rinnegan came back to full power. I can compile a list of chapters if you need me to

ReweR 1331 wrote:

3.1) Sharingan has a tomoe... Rinnegan Sasuke has a tomoe...  Rinnegan Sasuke can use Sharingan / EMS techniques.  2+2. EMS doesnt have tomoe so you dont have much of a point.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

4) Only your point of view. Clones (specifically wood) did not always copy the exact user state.  No source says that the clones originally had Rinnegan, not EMS. And no source says he had EMS active so you have nothing to argue. Im moving on from this point

ReweR 1331 wrote:

5) did not say. So who can deactivate Rinnegan? Madara is the only person to ever have his Rinnegan deactivated.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Why can somebody and somebody can't? What's the difference? Ask Kishimoto.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Originally you wrote that the eyes of the Rinnegan user are always Rinnegan, but now you are writing about deactivation. Its called reviewing the evidence

Sasuke cant deactivate his. He always has it. Its active when he isnt using it. Even whem he went to the past he had to use an eye patch so that no one would see his Rinnegan

ReweR 1331 wrote:

7) Tomoe is part of his Rinnegan. Question: Is Rinnegan Sasuke permanently activated?  Yes. And you're asking why he has a tomoe regardless of the EMS in his right eye?! His Rinnegan being permanantly active has nothing to do with the EMS being active.
 * His Rinnegan has Tomoe regardless of EMS is active
 * The Tomoe disappear only when he is low on chakra
 * The tomoe return when he has restored enough chakra
 * The tomoe stay until he loses a large amount of chakra

If the tomoe are EMS, they should be present only when he uses EMS, and that is not the case

1) check the description of Yomotsu Hirasaka. It says that Kaguya has three great eye techniques.  The three great eye technicians are Sharingan, Rinnegan and Byakugan.

1.1) that these characters (Sasuke and Hagoromo) called her third eye.

2) what source did you subtract what Rinne-Sharingan is and that it broke into something there?

3) the tomoes are always active because they are part of the Rinne-Sharingan Sasuke. His Sharingan is part of his Rinnegan strength.  He doesn't depend on his right eye, he just depends on the Sasuke chakra. 3.1) mm, no. Read the chapters "Itachi vs. Sasuke". Madara's illusory spirit had two pairs of Sharingan when Madara had EMS in her eyes. So we have 6 tomoes per eye. Sasuke also has these six tomoes: three from his MS, three from MS Itachi.

4) like none of them? Later, he used EMS for Genjutsu.  That says they had EMS.

5) Hagoromo can't deactivate, but Madara can? Nonsense. Is there anything else that indicates Madara can deactivate Rinnegan?

6) Tomoe is an EMS, but for some reason you ignore that the left Sasuke EMS is part of Rinnegan Sasuke. It's already Rinnegan, not Rinnegan + EMS.  So the eye should not depend on the right EMS.  In this case, when the chakras are few, the tomoe disappears, and only the reactivation of EMS is near.