Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180528093116/@comment-33959444-20180530015107

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: I made a few changes to the post'-'/

@It's Johnny Would they even allow Jiraiya to enter sage mode? They would see that his movements are kinda weird (his hands placing together and him not really moving) so obviously they'll come to the conclusion that he's up to something, we've seen sasuke he's like a susanoo boy, he relies on it alot, so he'll resort to that to end the summonings with susanoo arrow. The same susanoo arrow that forced kakashi to use kamui instead of evading with speed,we all know Kakashi is faster than Jiraiya so what does Jiraiya have on susanoo arrow? it's a definite hit for the summonings given their size and all... Jiraiya entered SM in just a chapter in the Manga. And he's a master at evasion and can use Kage Bunshin to speed up the process and can go inside of his toads to help him as well. I forgot to mention this in my original comment, but Jiraiya can use Swamp of the Underworld which could be dangerous for Sasuke's Susano'o. Although, Sasuke can summon a hawk for flight. I think Team Jiraiya's ace would be Sound Genjutsu, and Jiraiya doesn't have to necessarily get it off. Minato is also a Sage, so maybe he can do it. Itachi is a master at Genjutsu, but he hasn't shown feats breaking out of or reversing Sound Genjutsu. Some proof he may not be able to is the fact he didn't reverse it on Kabuto, and Kabuto's Sound Genjutsu did seem to be slightly weaker than Ma and Pa's.

Don't mean to get in the way of you guys debating, but there's a few things to add on. First of all, Sasuke during the Five Kage Summit never showed usage of Humanoid Susano'o. He only used Skeletal Susano'o. Unless we include Sasuke vs Danzo, he most likely can't use Humanoid Susano'o. How is it obvious Kakashi is faster than Jiraiya? Shouldn't be Jiraiya faster as a Sage?And Nashikeine, I disagree with Itachi barely being able to use the MS. Even after using Tsukuyomi twice and Amaterasu once, Itachi never showed insane recoil. He was panting heavily, yes, but it doesn't mean it was his absolute limit. Him retreating could be defined as him not wanting to harm the Leaf Village because of his secret mission. Either that, or Itachi's powers got retconned because Itachi explained that he wanted to wait for "Amaterasu" to turn to "Tsukuyomi" or something like that, implying that he couldn't use both at the same time, which doesn't make sense. And I also have some things listed in my other comment in regards to Obito with his MS. I think you'll find it interesting. As for matching up the characers, that's really all we can do because an entire team battle would be pretty chaotic and hard to tell what would happen.