User talk:Gemnist

Naruto vs. Gaara
Hey Gemnist, I changed my user name from Eric (which was a stupid name for me to choose anyway) to Lord 7th Hokage. Anyway I just wanted to find out if there is any progress on the Naruto vs. Gaara fightLord 7th Hokage (talk) 18:34, January 14, 2015 (UTC)

Well done Gemnist, truly well done! Let's quickly go for the nit picks. Chapter 127, no flaws. Chapter 128. I really don't think Gaara gives a crap about wining the quarterfinals. Instead, why don't you have Gaara thinking about how Guy saved Lee and have Gaara say "who's going to save you?!" Then pop up Naruto and Sakura and have them say "We'll save him!". Chapter 129, I don't think the term 'tailed beast' was introduced. They are just known as monsters. Naruto doesn't even know there are more tailed beasts 1-9. And Gaara can't manipulate his tailed beast. Everything is good but leading up to chapter 134. Naruto doesn't really talk about him about their life's as jinchuriki, but rather them just being lonely and hated. Everything else, I have no complaints.Lord 7th Hokage (talk) 00:22, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

intros cont'd
Three users have told you to stop adding more to intros. For the last time, intros are meant to be simple summaries of the character. Constantly adding links can be possible spoiler information, not to mention that those links you add can literally be found by scrolling down the page, making them redundant. Please stop. I will not warn again. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 03:27, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, please do not make edits such as this. That never happened in the original Naruto series, for Obito Uchiha was not revealed at that time. Please do not put links to events that happened Post-Part I in Part I summaries. Again, the main reason is spoilers. I do not want to take decisive action on you, because I understand you have good intentions and want to help, but please listen to what we are telling you. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 03:52, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Couldn't agree more with Windy and please refrain yourself from including heavy spoilers in the summary. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 04:06, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, in regards to Asuma's and Kurenai's infoboxes... Cerez365 changed their relationship to "Husband and Wife" rather than "Lovers" in order to maintain consistency. I changed your revision back to Cerez's one, as Databook Retsu no Sho referred to Kurenai as "Kurenai Sarutobi," making the husband-wife relation valid and again, in order to thin down inconsistency in infoboxes. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 04:34, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Gemnist, an edit like this is not wise. That blatantly just goes against the mantra we have when it comes to spoilers. Keeping this brief, before you go around recklessly adding links/spoilers to articles (after being told not to by four other users), I would like for you to think about the readers who have not progressed that far in the story. Would those type of edits not ruin the story for them? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 05:53, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

re: Star Wars
Pure bullshit. They wiped out 20 years and upwards of several thousand years of in universe lore so they wouldn't have problems with the Star Wars trilogy. Cause titans help them make the sequel trilogy take place so far ahead that they didn't need to get Ford, Fisher and Hamill to get the nostalgia fanboys to come running. That being said I am over it and have watching and waiting with optimism that the new expanded universe is any good. So far I have been disappointed, as everything that has been coming out has been set in between 3 and 4 and not after 6 like I want.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't be. The timeline for the Sequel Trilogy is roughly 30-40 years, given the age of the original cast. During that time in the Old EU, the New Republic rose and fell into the Galactic Alliance, the Yuuzhan Vong reduced much of the galaxy into a wasteland, Chewbacca is dead and there is at least a full new generation of Jedi. This trilogy, none of that happened, so it is highly unlikely they shelved it just to use it in the movies. The sad reality is that they most likely got rid of it because they wanted a chance to use the old cast again and they couldn't with the EU breathing down their necks.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 12:07, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Your take
As you know from our discussion on the overview, I value your opinion very highly. Therefore, would you mind giving this a read, and then letting me know your thoughts on the matter? Thanks! :D --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 03:49, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll read your Sasuke script tomorrow and get back to you ASAP! :D --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 03:07, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Read your script- fortunately, or unfortunately, I don't have that much to say. It's pretty similar to the manga, with a few added lines of dialogue that make the scene better. There's also a few more scenes that screw with the pairings, as it's obvious your film will end with NaruSaku and SasuKarin (which isn't a problem- I don't care about pairings). Overall, I think it's a really good job! The only thing I have to mention is that adding all these new scenes of dialogue will make it even longer, and I'm still not sure how you plan on handling the length well enough so that it's not too long. Is there anything specifically you want my take on? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 21:14, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know you actually decided to change it. Tbh, I think this is a much better idea- much easier to manage. The pairing stuff is fine by me- though I do prefer NH a bit over NS, I will admit that NS makes more sense; but in the end, I couldn't give a damn, so screw it! xD --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 03:32, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Your script
Hey Gemnist! Yeah you can still call me Eric, I don't mind. Let's start with a few nit picks. I highly doubt an ANBU agent who is a skilled assassin can be knocked out cold with a hit with a forehead protector. He can certainly be deceived. But it's an embarrassment for him to be knocked out like that. Change it more to where he's delayed. Like Naruto's clone transformed himself into a leaf ninja who delivered paperwork that Kakashi didn't do and Yamato has to fill it out, a little comedy there. And I don't think Kiba knows Naruto acquired sage mode. And Kiba in this time would want Naruto to stay out of it because he has already too much spotlight and Kiba wants in on all the glory. And Sasuke doesn't know Karin is an Uzamaki. He learns that when he fights Kabuto. And Karin is more of a personal medic. She doesn't really tend to anyone else. And she's not much of a medic, Sasuke just bites her, I don't think she has much medical knowledge. And if Sasuke is going to say anything as he moves in for the kill, keep it silent. Don't make Sasuke say anything. Because saying "Die Villager", I don't know it seems improper. And the part where Sasuke says "Maybe I'll shut up", change it to "Only then can I stop!". And I'm sure Kakashi would stop Naruto from spilling the beans. Kakashi wanted to make sure only him, Naruto and Yamato knew, no one else. And I don't think Naruto would ever say he was afraid of Sasuke becoming Hokage. Oh I just read the footnote with Karin. Yeah add that in. Over all, well done ^_^Lord 7th Hokage (talk) 05:26, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

So Gemnist, what are the next chapters you are going to do? I don't really have any recommendations so I'll trust you.Lord 7th Hokage (talk) 05:13, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Your Script
Hey, I read your work and the part you gave me. I would like to tell you that as it's fanon, it's a great attempt. Keep it up!--Hisana456 (talk) 08:12, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

re: Team Asuma
Yeah, I have also noticed that. I suggest you ask UltimateSupreme to fix that for the wiki, if he can. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:05, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't seem possible with the way our infoboxes are currently implemented.--~Ultimate Supreme  05:14, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Updated script
This is going to be fun ^_^ before anything.. Nitpicks! I think Sakura should say comrades, not friends. When Obito steps towards Naruto, have Sakura say that the 9 tails isn't inside Naruto so stay away from him. Orochimaru should have more dialouge because Kabuto is his former student after all. Personally, I think you should tone down the amount of dialogue you give Jugo. Make Sugietsu say that. And Kabuto hasn't really joined the Akatsuki, he is like an acquaintance. Furthermore, the Akatsuki isn't really there anymore. So they shouldn't really be mentioned. Focus more on Kabuto being an enemy of humanity. You shouldn't have Hagoromo call Naruto his son. It's been such a talk of reincarnations with Hashriama and Madara. It would be strange for Hagoromo to address Naruto as his son. Absolutely no complaints of the Hagoromo story. However, you shouldn't write Hashriama as one of the incarnations because then you're making it sound like there were hundreds of incarnations. Rather it's less then 5 really. I also think you're making Naruto understand this a bit to easy. He's suppose to be more... up in the clouds is it? Make him have more hesitation in his speech. Indra also wanted the world to be connected. Hagoromo, Ashura, Indra, Madara, Hashriama, Naruto and Sasuke. They all shared the goal of uniting the world. But they just had different methods of carrying it out. For a nitpick, I think Naruto should just say Sasuke. Leave the last name out. They are powerful beings, but I think you're over shooting it when you say they are the most powerful beings he's ever known. Remember, had Madara not been betrayed, he probably could have won. Madara's power was from a different dimension. Everything leading up is great, but I don't think Hagoromo should tell them what they're getting out of him dividing their power. I don't think Obito should feel giddy. It's kinda creepy during a war he has such feelings. And I also believe you should never write that Naruto says Sasuke and him are gods. I think that will take more steps back than forward. Quick nit pick, to Sasuke's dialouge change it to "can you teleport me to the battlefield?" And change the aiding troups thing to "prevent less casualties". For Sakura change her dialouge to "In other circumstances, I don't know if if could have trusted you so easily...." then you can follow that up with your original speech. Eh I would prefer for Madara to immediately notice Sasuke's rinnegan. I really know what I'm about to say is not necessary, but I really don't think anyone should be using the word "darn". Just seems silly. Ehh Obito is just as worse as Madara when it comes to murdering. Have him call Madara a monster. And I really, really, really don't think Sasuke would call anyone love birds. If anything he would just yell not to be distracted. But he'll never do something like that. But you did a good job with the team 7 arguing. Really funny. If Kakashi calls Sasuke arrogant, then he's clearly picking favorites. I think it's wrong for Kakashi to say such things. Kakashi actually knows the truth of the Uchiha, so why in the world would he call him arrogant? And I don't think Sasuke should reveal his plans.. Just saying... Chapter 670 and 671, you killed it. That's a job well done. You did a good job on Sasuke's dialogue in chapter 674. However, you need to keep him more composed in his actions. Like he always has a plan ready and he's ready to execute it. But this part "Sakura, your unfortunate only passion was Sasuke. He ruled every aspect of your life, outside of what you hated, that being Naruto. Ironic how the boys thought differently of you. And you're clearly seeing that. You now cling to Naruto as if he were your husband" is confusing. If Sasuke ruled every aspect of her life, then isn't having her cling to Naruto as if he was her husband contradictory? Because regardless then both boys rule every aspect of her life. And Kakashi is being too harsh. He's suppose to be the one who understands Sasuke. He never thought that what he was doing was out of reason, rather he knew why, that's why he persuaded to drop the act of vengeance. He did that his teacher. Anyway, kudos on the Hagoromo speech! You did good on remembering the specific strengths and weaknesses of each character, that takes massive skill. 8.5/10 overall ^_^Lord 7th Hokage (talk) 21:56, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Time
It is 60 years before the beginning of part one that Konoha is built, Hiruzen was 8yrs old when it was built.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:Seelentau/NewTimeline this is the best timeline so far and has most of what me and Seel have discovered.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User:Seelentau/JinTimeline#1st_January_to_31_December_62_bNb and Seel made this using only Jin no Sho.. it is newer but it has obvious errors such as Hiruzen's Hokage age and the whole madara fighting muu and leaving konoha part. But the rest of this is correct as far as I can tell and it adds to the NewTimeLine. For example of some of the right things that actually work. Itachi was freshly 15 when he left Konoha and Sasuke was almost 10.. he was still 9 since his birthday hadn't come up. I have been thinking of combining them but I would have to ask Seel, they are HIS timelines, I only helped. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 19:20, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Jin no Sho timeline is actually based on the most recent dates, so I would take it. The older one guessed many things wrong. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:36, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I actually wanted to merge them sooner or later, but I'm not really interested in the manga right now, so that won't happen in the near future. You can copy it and try it yourself if you want, though. ;) • Seelentau 愛 議 20:50, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * But those are both English? :O • Seelentau 愛 議 21:05, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * It is, but you wouldn't need it anyway. :D But whatever, do whatever you want. ^.^ • Seelentau 愛 議 21:22, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

No problem Gemnist. Yeah the timelines, if put together would be damn near truly perfect. Eventually when they are merged that would be the one to go off of... but Hiruzen becoming Hokage 14yrs before Naruto is born? That's just literally impossible as Torifu was 30 and Kagami was 25, Hiruzen was clearly at their age so between 25-30 when he became Hokage. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:03, January 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Hagoromo Script
Hey Gemnist- sorry I haven't been on here lately (I'll be getting back to the discussions soon). I will read your script tomorrow and give you my take on it. In the meantime, would you mind giving me your thoughts on this discussion- ? Not only would I like your own ideas, but can you tell me what you think of mine, and if you think I have good ideas and/or if I'll just be disappointed in the end/I am expecting too much? Thanks, and I'll talk to you soon! :D--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 04:39, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's my response to the script. Before I get into it, here's a bit of an update. I'll start responding to all of the discussions tomorrow. I have work and schoolwork to be done, and then I'll be finishing catching up to Game of Thrones (it's what I've been doing with most of my free time lately). When that's finally done, I'll start getting back into the discussions. BTW, thanks for giving me your thoughts on NvS in the anime. Since I went more in-depth with my ideas, can you let me know what you thought of my ideas? Now onto the script...
 * For starters, I do like the dialogue between Sakura and Obito- fits the scene nice. The history of Kaguya and the Otsutsuki was also played out nice. I'm still not a big fan of how they came from the moon in your story, as I like the idea of them actually creating the moon, but since this whole concept was never explained in the actual manga, this makes more sense from a story perspective. I also like how you pretty much explained everything about Kaguya right here and now- does this mean no shocking revelation BS like in chapter 681? Everything else is pretty much what I read on the other blog I made or is a direct adaption from the manga, so I don't have much else to say. Overall, once again, I really like what I'm reading! :D Is there any specific parts you would like me to respond to that I didn't do in this post?--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:45, January 28, 2015 (UTC)