Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20170610192426/@comment-30168130-20170610234520

I meant them in the war. they haven't shown anything new for one. Naruto made his first one handed rasengan vs juubito (when he turns sm), so the only thing the last Naruto and above improved in, is his use of rasenshuriken (which makes sense, since he had for almost less than one year in shippuden). Naruto is surely kage lvl in base, but sasuke isn't. he needs to power up to get to that lvl. in his full ms power (full chakra and susanoo, but he had a few injuries), it is stated that danzo could've won against him, wanst for obito's existence in that place and time. it makes no sense for someone who needed ems and rinne to fight against Naruto and his clones, to outta nowhere be fighting (high) kage lvl people. him in base is fast, but that's cuz he always was. how did someone like that overpower someone like kinshiki, while in base? see my point? im not saying he isn't strong, but come on now.