Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-39468671-20200614003405/@comment-6769189-20200616001340

UltimaDude wrote:

Except that it's not a loose definition if it describes exactly what the Rasengan is; a spinning ball of chakra that's formed and held in the palm of the user's hand. Nothing more, nothing less. Your Fire Release example is reductive. Although most Fire Release techniques are formed from the user's mouth, they don't all look the same and behave differently. A volley of small fireballs is obviously different than a dragon head-shaped fireball, for example. Great Fire Anihilation, Fireball Jutsu(the streaming version) and Great Fire destruction all look the same, are executed the same, and have the same effect. Are theyball the same jutsu? No.

UltimaDude wrote:

Like I said before, they are the same technique where one is simply an augmented version of the other. If one is augmented then it really isnt the same attack since its been modified in some way.

Chidori has been described as a "simple jab" but uuhhhh its clearly not. Its Lightning empowered jab.

UltimaDude wrote:

They don't look exactly the same The curse marks are very clearly on his face
 * Gaara's first transformation

UltimaDude wrote:

Close ups of his face in this form show that he has the curse marks andnin one of them he has a few on his back
 * Gaara's second transformation

UltimaDude wrote:

Them marks are exactly the same
 * Shukaku's Desert Layered Imperial Funeral Seal
 * Naruto's Magnet Release: Rasengan

UltimaDude wrote:

I just now realized that you made a straw man out of my argument, which ticks me off. Here's my argument.... Its not a straw man. Its the basis of your argument.

UltimaDude wrote:

I wasn't even arguing that they were the same techniques in the first place, so talking about similar techniques between users and the behavior of the two techniques are completely meaningless. Also, I suggest you drop your curse mark spread argument, since the MR: Rasengan needs constant contact for the curse mark to spread throughout the target's body. In the case of the particular Rasenshuriken, it and the other Rasnshurikens exploded immediately after making contact with Kaguya. Last time I checked, seals/curse marks don't occur within an instant. So you are saying that a technique is of the same nature with no observable effects of said nature?

Also, Rasenshuriken explodes (more like expands) it is making constant contact until it stops expanding and it trapps the target inside

I dont know how we can honestly say that it is Magnet Release when it wasnt stated to be, shown to be, or have the effects of Magnet Release

A4RONS4JIS4M wrote: Coming back to the point,

I just don't get how wind+earth can grant you the ability to control magnetic fields No one can rationalize Earth and Wind making Magnet but thats what Kishimoto gave us

A4RONS4JIS4M wrote:

when only the 3rd kazekage was said to have the special power to control magnetic fields even though the jutsus gaara and rasa have are called "Jiton" or "Magnet release",Which I don't disagree with. It was never stated that the 3rd Kazekage was the only person who could do those things

A4RONS4JIS4M wrote:

In the anime, what I see is people calling any ability that controls inorganic objects through telekinesis "Jiton". ... like when? No one ever called Deva abilities Jiton.

A4RONS4JIS4M wrote:

But 2 out of 4 times, in the novel and boruto, they call it "Electromagnetism". In the novel. It was called electromagnetism because Kajuuta used a Lightnin Release Jutsu on his Iron Sand and use Magnet Release to control the sand.

In the anime, it was called electromagnetism because lightning was once again flowing through magnetic fields that Shinki was controling

Electromagnetism is just the magnetic field of electricity. The electromagnetism refered to in the series just electricity controled by Magnet Release

ReweR 1331 wrote: @LegionZero

Then why did you periodically poke me into your wiki when it makes a little more sense than a fanfic? Poke you into my wiki? What?