Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-45325938-20200329160854/@comment-43776375-20200330213955

I didn't say they need more sage chakra to enter SM, I said that they need more natural energy. It's stated that there needs to be perfect balance of natural energy and chakra (physical energy and physical energy) to enter SM. Gather too little, you won't make sage chakra. Gather too much, you turn to stone. Therefore, by simple math, if Y gathers the same amount of natural energy that X needed to enter SM, Y can't make sage chakra. Conversely, if X gathers the same amount of natural energy that Y needed to enter SM, X gets turned to stone. I still don't get this, you need to balance the natural energy but you balance it with the physical and mental one to create sage chakra, when you have sage chakra you enter sage mode, you're supposing that natural energy alone gives sage mode?

Minato simply having a summoning contract with the toads is not enough to assume that he learned SM when there was absolutely no mention of it prior to his Senjutsu Rasengan. If there had been a hint of Minato learning SM prior to him using it against TTJ-Madara, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

No, not really. Had Minato also contributed his own sage chakra to the Rasengan, it would have been more effective. I don't see why not, he has the access to learn that ability, if X characted had toad summon you could think: "I wonder if he has sage mode" and would be fair, what you're asking here is for a "spoiler" of his sage mode, we've been given the hints, but why do you want the whole "feat-like" proof?

I'll also add again that in Minato's case it's not only a "toad summon so he could have sage mode" but there are other things: Toad summons had a lot of students, we know Minato is good at leanirng and he's experienced in chakra control beacause of his ealing jutsu and all the praises he got from Jiraiya, the fact that he was Jiraiya student and fukusaku seeing Minato and Jiraiya behind Naruto when he perfected sage mode, Minato actaully using Gamabunta while Jiraiya uses the other toad cause he says even him can't control well Gamabunta while it's obedient to Minato, putting Minato at an higher respect point than a senjutsu user Like there is all this and it's still not right?

Why would it have been more effective? The tecnique didn't get nullified so nothing would have changed