Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170423043658/@comment-31099706-20170508025334

@Ninjachris.

I never said that increase in chakra means improvement in skills. I only showed what the manga is showing, Sasuke's being both much stronger and larger now. And Madara showed him as having bijju levels of chakra then why not him? I mean considering his life before entering the dimensions was spend by him beating up and guys protecting the village and all. He always had Orochimarus craving for his eyes. He had to always be in constant shape or as the new info in Boruto came, his body will slowly forgot.

Naruto's own chakra supply was never a show, since he was always powered up by Kurama from the begining of his birth, by the seal Minato made that always let Kurama leak some chakra in Naruto. Naruto's own Chakra was never shown, and even with his kurama leaked chakra he wasn't at all in the levels of his clansmen, like Nagato or Karin(I suppose) or his related clansmen/previous Ashura incarnate, Hashi. and many other people have shown much more chakra than him before he mastered Kurama.

Sasuke, as shown by his usage of PS,CT, Genjutsu,Chidori,Fire jutsus,Amaterasu, actiavted Rinnegen. All show how much chakra he has. and it only improved by him showing Time space jutsu.

Huh? not new? then show me a manga chapter where he did the move before Boruto manga?

You won't find something, if you do not desire to find it. The mysterious chapter in which Mitsuki says that is in even in his wiki page, you could look it up.

Again you twist a qoute, and made it suitable for you, huh? that was all a way for the manga to emotionally strike Boruto. Mitsuki knew how Boruto hated his father, he knew that saying it would make both of them closer.

and you seem to forget something, he didn't say "Naruto protected all of US" because he was there too. And you seem to ignore the fact that Sasuke was the one to protect the kids while Naruto SACRIFICES himself taking the most of the damage of the TBB and to be captured by Momo and Kinshi. He did it so Momo and Kinshi will leave, thus saving the village. Don't twist all these things to perfectly sych with your opinion.

I looked at pg 2 of Chapter 6. It only had Naruto yelling, Sasuke wasn't even in that page to say that (non existent) ramark.

Yes Naruto could do it and anyways whats the freaking point for Sasuke to join with Naruto at there? it was pretty clear that Naruto could do it himself. he being there would be of no use other than belittling Momo and Kinshi of being able to defeat them but stopping only because of ordinary citizens other than that I don't see any help gained through it. But you did notice the size of the TBB didn't you? It was too wide spread for a rinnegen to take in before reaching the ground and destroying a big part of the village.

And Sasuke's not the type to brag you know? He doesn't go "yeah I once made all the meanest and strongest demons/monster in the shinobi world be my stupid little pets, so I could do that easily, huh your dad is nothing compared to me " lol.

Sasuke helped Naruto by giving him his own chakra. He protected the kids from the explosion. Naruto sacrificef himself. for your logic to be perfect. Sasuke should turn into Susanoo and then his Susanoo should break and Naruto should use his Kurama and distinctively show that he's durable and tank the attack and then defear Momo and Kinshi. Not get hit and fall unconscious by them.

I responded to your claim about the anime, and the medical ninja thing was that you commented that Naruto should have not known that blood leaks in the body when a whole (Freaking) arm is severed off. And I said taht he only needs common sense for it. And you suddenly come and say this "He's not as much of a idiot you make him up to be" or something like that. I hope you atleats now figure that mistake.

As far as everything goes, you have yet to provide chapters for the questions I asked, which you obviously are ignoring for a reason and just going by and saying it's pointless, while I have provided manga chapters of my claim in my previous post.

@Namikaze.

And two legs and a head. Um, are you mentioning the avater fight where Sasuke used his PS sword against Kurama and Kurama obviously used all his tails together to overpower it? and I don't think it was a susnoo slash, Susanoo slashes don't need to even be in contact.

Yes, a tired, left eye strained Sasuke fought in a taijutsu match against a guy with highly remarkeble Life force, stamina and Chakra and who used shadow clones in a taijutsu fight.

Um, where in the manga chapter did it even show Naruto was stronger than Sasuke?

Huh? You mean the fight that happened like 15 years ago? the fight they did as teens? you take that as a prove to show what? Adult Naruto is stronger than Adult Sasuke?Nice.

Yeah but me claiming otherwise that Naruto hasn't even remotely spoken to the tailed beasts after the chapters hint at soemthing doesn't it? Kurama being the only one shown in Naruto?Naruto not being alerted by Eight tails attack? Naruto not being helped by the other tailed beasts against Toneri? Naruto as the main character and as you guys always use, the show being named after him hasn't shown at all the other tailed beasts even with his screen time. He had a whole movie for him, but it didn't show. I wonder why?

Chapter between Naruto's RS training. Yamato distinctively warn Naruto about Sasuke's Fire jutsu and showed us all a pratical image of what will happen.

In the chapters of Attacking Ten tails. Sasuke perfectly makes his Susanoo Amaterasu Arrow to match Naruto's RS. Naruto himself believing Sasuke to be able to do it.

Here's a bonus, Itachi said " Every Jutsu has a weakness". Even your 'invincible' RS.

And anyways, @Namikaze, weren't you the guy who said that Jiraya can easily counter Naruto's RS with his fire jutsus in a Sage mode Naruto vs Jiraya thread?

Ugh, I'll explain it.

You see what Naruto did, was a feat of his stamina.

You see Sasuke easily handled himself as a tired, left eye strained Non jinchuriki in a taijutsu match against a guy who is from a clan with high life force, Stamina and chakra, was jinchuriki of Kurama and was using Shadow clones in a 'taijutsu' match. Sasuke easoly managing himself against them is a feat of his taijutsu. Naruto lasting that long is a feat of his stamina.

Let me say it like this, Madara is a taijutsu expert. Hashi's taijutsu skill is highly remarked for keeping up with Madara and he with his stamina and life force lasted longer in their fight and finally killed Madara but eveb now Madara is the one who is remarked for his taijutsu skill out of the two.

just like that Naruto has nice taijutsu skills matching people like Sasuke.

What Naruto did at the end of the battle was a result of a tired eye strained Sasuke suddenly losing his other eye's ability too while doing a jutsu that really needs that specific eye ability or will be open to counters like Naruto's without being able to see and react for it like Kakashi. any second longer then Naruto would have been done for. Kurama also remarked on Naruto noticing his eye deactivating.

Provide me Chapters 3 years after the war that are mainly based on Sasuke and Sasuke only. I will then Point you to it. And I know you can't, Cause Naruto's the only one to have such a oppurtunity, he had a whole movie for himself.

OH! We must alert the Shinobi battles department! That Minato and Obito have mostly lost all of their battles by default.

I mean you should have said this earlier, I mean we have interpreted most of their battles as a win until you came.

I mean so many battles should be disqualified due to Obito and Minato. Oh and Tobirama, and taht battle where ten tails Madara uses Kamui and Kaguya! Kaguya lost so many battles by default

I think you get my point don't you? Time space jutsu is used for fights. If the user comes back again by the next minute then its default. And I said Sasuke can return by that same time space jutsu.

Oh Sasuke dodging a freaking ten km wide jutsu is running away? nice. There's obviously a reason for you to claim it as default, cause you know, this will bring a humungous difference to the fight.

Um it's interesting how certain sentences can change with just taking one word away from them. The keyword is Equal. Let me complete the sentence "My father said that Sasuke's the only one who can fight Naruto EQUALLY". Clearly there's a reason for you to ignore that word,isn't there?

Can you specify Holding back for me?

Sasuke was confused at that time, he brought what he called his best friend to the a place where they had a large emotional impact.

If you didn't remember He did say the same thing once. and yet didn't kill Naruto, even with the benifit of amazing power.

Sasuke, while believing in his own peace. knew that Naruto also believed in his own peace. In his mind the end of the fight would result in one of them dying. And in Naruto, either both of them being alive or both of them dying together. Sasuke knew that it was his last fight. He wanted to finally measure the difference between them. To finally decide who is stronger hence why the fight was more like DBZ then Naruto shinobi fights, more clashing then any sneak attacks. Sneak attacks would only give the fight a 1/10 measurements due to it won't work if it's done again. But clashing would result in both of them having a 10/10 chance.It was the perfect way of measuring themselves.

That's why one attacks like CT wasn't done. That's why he didn't use Those CTs against Naruto or Use those Tailed beasts to fight against Naruto thus easily emotionally breaking him out and killing him. And that's why he didn't use Kirin against Base Naruto or non Kurama mode Naruto. Or Chidori Long spear instead of normal Chidori to clash against rasengan. And Ameno chidori.

That's why he kept provoking Naruto, insulting him and kept insisting on fighting seriously, it's like Vegeta vs Goku. He want's Naruto to use full power.

Maybe you can call him stupid. But he mostly confused, by the darkness, which Naruto himself knows. And maybe it's because his desire of peace was similar to Itachi's. Maybe that's why he wanted to make sure which peace could stay and which cannot.

@Lorenzo. Wind element is the only element to show to enhance Fire element, basically all other just neuterlizes themselves.

And again Ninjachris. Where in the manga does it say that Sharingan goes off because of punches and kicks? it was due to chakra loss. chalra loss that happened due to the other Rinnegen not being able to deactivate it.

It also was because he fought Madara, Kaguya, the tailed beasts, and Naruto simultaneously, with his rinnegen and Sharingan on. And he wasn't powered up by a tailed beast (Note. His susanoo was the only thing powered by the chakra.)

Again it was due to his healing and stamina that he even survived all of it.

And Sasuke with Ameno, Natural high speed, and EMS is superior in speed with Naruto..

And what's all this about absorbing senjutsu chakra jutsus? I thought it was only for the NE. When Madara or Nagato absorbed the senjutsu enhanced RS, Naruto didn't go like " how did he absorb it! he should have turned into a stone by now!" or "wow amazing, he absorbed that senjutsu technique" but in reality he didn't. This only means the sage himself knows that it's freaking possible. No mention of the feat, means such. And a edo is basically like a SPOP, edo's have infinite refils but still have their own chakra amount in their body(even lesser) and will not have it like Kaguya. SPOP have their own body and is a dead body just like edos and it turned into stone. Just so to prove that it takes skills for it.

Sasuke has always shown skill to controll external powers. Natural lightning, Mastering CM,Hagoromo's Six paths Chakra(like Senjutsu) And the tailed beasts chakra. With all these feats and considering he surpassed Madara(non jinchuriki) in almost every way he can do it easily.

Naruto is equal to Sasuke.