User talk:SuperSajuuk/Archive 12

Where have you been...
...because no one has followed that rule since it was posted. Not even the mods, which was about a year ago. Is this seriously something you just added without conversing with the mods because I don't see anything that approves of that rule. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 09:12, September 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Unless you can provide proof in recent days that this rule is something that should be followed for now on within recent days, I'm reverting your edit. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 09:22, September 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * People making it later doesn't prove anything and you know that wasn't what I was asking. I need proof of you discussing with a mod of this rule being established from now on recently.--OmegaRasengan (talk) 09:28, September 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am saying that you did because you were the one that added that rule there from the page's edit history. Do not whine to me when I've been asking you to explain yourself thoroughly. And do not go making accusations that I'm "lying" to get you in trouble. I'm trying to have this situation dealt with, not getting you into trouble which you keep on insisting on to get me into trouble.--OmegaRasengan (talk) 09:35, September 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * You say that, and then I see this. The rule to delete pages before 3am was added by you according to the edit history. And regardless of the policy existing before that addition, nobody has correctly followed it. I leave Ultimate3 or whatever mod to settle this.--OmegaRasengan (talk) 09:49, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Do we have a partnership with Crunchyroll that I'm unaware of? I'm not agreeing with this rule at all. ~Hakinu (talk 12:50, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Uploading
Thanks for the tip on uploading images! :)
 * Sorry about the lack of signature! Hrathgrath (talk) 13:45, September 5, 2014 (UTC

re: kudos
It's stupid that it can be done in the first place, so why not?--Elveonora (talk) 12:42, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Deadlock
I created this but had no idea about this page. Can you help me out? And also, which is more suitable to you? Thanks. -- WindStar7125   05:06, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems like Snapper2 did the work. Never mind.-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 02:36, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Images
Hello SuperSajuuk! Thank you for informing me that he was violating one of the rules of uploading, this does not repitirá! I'm new in narutopédia and with some difficulty in editing this.

...
...Um... are shipping discussions not allowed here or heavily frowned upon? I thought shippers and stuff weren't allowed here... I'm confused... -- WindStar7125   21:49, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course. Right here. I am very tired of seeing such unnecessary discussions on the wiki activity page.-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:53, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. Thank you. And if it were on a talk page, I could delete it? I'm not a rollback, wouldn't I get in trouble for deleting any talk page discussions? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:58, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the head's up. I can already guess why such stupid (and somewhat uncomfortable) discussions are not permitted on this wiki, but I still want a full explanation why, please. Better I know things rather than make a hypothesis and guess why. :) -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:05, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I know they can't be on the wiki, but I was talking about specifically why they can't be on the forums. A lot of fanon goes on in the forums, but what makes pairings/shippings different from other fanon on the forums?-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:10, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. An unspoken rule. I get that. Anyway thanks. Also, can you show me where the agreement was to ban such unwarranted consultations? I'd like to see others' opinions on the matter please to get a better sense of the rules around here. If you can't, thanks anyway. :)-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:24, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you very much! I'll read this thing. Anyway, I apologize for not reporting this to you on an earlier date. I noticed the discussion when it was first created and I was like "Dafuq? That's not allowed here, right? Well, some sysop is going to lay down his authority, so I'll back off from this one and not get involved." Then I kept seeing the thread, much to my irritation, and then when I saw the discussion get close to 100 messages, I was like "Oh hell no. I have got to stop this idiocy from expanding and soiling this well-oiled wiki..." and that's how we got here. Again, I apologize for not noting this earlier. After reading the discussion you linked to me, I'll do my best to make sure this wiki doesn't become polluted with such ludicrousness and stupidity (yes, I used that word, for I am very against pairing discussions). So thanks again! :)-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:43, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

... (again)
This qualifies as a what-if scenario, which isn't allowed, right?-- WindStar7125   23:50, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: so...
I usually have been editing instead of double posting and you told me to tell @kind hearted on there talk page so i did. Yeah i'll use the preview from now on so you don't have to worry. even though there's nothing to worry about anyways. Your the only one that says my edits are useless and not needed while others say i am helpful like snapper22. Munchvtec (talk) 17:35, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

You have said on multiple occasions that my edits are useless and do nothing to help the wiki. I don't want a response to this message, just reminding you. Munchvtec (talk) 17:43, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: MessageWallUserTags
A discussion first would be nice~Ultimate Supreme  02:07, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

I just had a look at the script and it assumes that you have walls enabled (even to work just on forums). So maybe you could ask on the script's talkpage about it or we could just do it like we do on Naruto Answers in article comments?--~Ultimate Supreme  14:46, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Opinion please
Last week I made a section on Kirisame's page about what he did in the OVA. I would like you to check if it's okay. Im asking because if it's bad I don't want to make anymore. Munchvtec (talk) 12:30, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: For the first time here, I'm gonna be real serious
You're input helps a lot. To be quite honest, I am not a fan of forums to begin with, and I'm tired of seeing them. Yes, they create arguments, and a lot of fanon takes place there. It really doesn't help the wiki, it just adds to a user's editcount. -- WindStar7125   12:15, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then I think we should enforce it. For the time being, I've decided to take a break from forums unless I have to participate (such as reaching a consensus or executive decisions). Before, I couldn't help but respond to and correct the fanon that many users put on those forums (Example: "Naruto will get the Rinnegan"). But that leads to arguments worse than what we have on article talkpages. I thought forums were a way to end annoying edit conflicts, and other reasons attached to it. I also thought it was a way to talk about other Naruto-related things happening in the real world (such as updates on the Naruto: The Last movie). We've laid down the law on many things on this wiki, so why not Snapper2's thread? Don't get me wrong though. I'm not suggesting that we get rid of forums altogether or that I have an obscene hatred towards them or anything, but they've gotten out of hand. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:43, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh, you don't have to be sorry. I cause enough trouble there by fighting with other users. I decided to take a break because of one: myself, two: the fanon there, and three: the endless arguments. It's better for the wiki if I'm not there for the time being. I don't need to make things get off topic and heated because of remarks others make about me. Again, not trying to play the victim, I'm just as much a bully on these forums. It's one thing to have a relevant argument over the subject (like how it happens on article talkpages). It's another thing altogether when users (like myself and others) take things personally and argue about things that deviate from the topic at hand. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:57, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Kakashi introduction arc
Hey SuperSajuuk about the information on kakashi's page i deleted. Why is that information in Kakashi's introduction arc. I know its anime only content but it could of taken place anywhere from the start of the Land of Waves Arc to the Chūnin Exam Arc. Without knowing the precise time of those events inst a reason to put it in the introduction arc. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 11:12, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hey whats up
I don't even know if this the right place to ask this but I'll give it a try. I remember you saying that you are not able to make lets plays for the newer naruto games. im just curious as to why since others have made them. Munchvtec (talk) 14:02, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

re: moderator
Thanks for the privilege.--Elveonora (talk) 13:33, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, may you assist me with it a little? So:
 * First, I use this http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MyPage/Sig right? What should I write there tho?
 * Second, once it's done, I use the name of the signature in special preferences and add mod next to it, right?
 * --Elveonora (talk) 13:55, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, works I guess--Elve Talk Page 14:30, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah, thanks for the offer, but red is fine. Unless it's mandatory or something :P--Elve Talk Page 14:34, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke page
what is thread sasuke page ? --Twelvethrower24 (talk) 16:58, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: pairing threads
Noted, will do. Thank you.--Reliops (talk) 20:59, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * @Sajuuk, If I'm correct, I'd say @Reliops and others in the Chapter 693 thread are planning on trying to allow pairing discussions here. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:05, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems that I'll have to make an exception on not participating in forum talk. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:08, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Forums
Excuse me, but I'm a little interested in what ideas you have for the forums. So far, after the pairings discussion, I think some more things have to be established. What do you think?

Edit: You claimed here while responding to Munchvtec that you "think there's a few misconceptions floating around about the board itself and that needs to be addressed." and that you "may make a post about it and clear up these misconceptions and lay down exactly what the forums are for and what the wiki is not." Elaborate please? That'd be a forum I'd gladly participate in. -- WindStar7125   04:18, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, Ok, so you're waiting for @Foxie. And by the way, thanx for the congrats. I don't know why I became a chat moderator and rollback, but I'm glad anyway. :D Also, in the forums, shouldn't I have that red marker next to my name? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:01, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Edits
Oh I'm sorry, I made ​​a mistake when the first edit. And the second just fix it. I don't have rollback ability so I made 2 edits... once again sorry.  Fa te _ Ka ge   Talk! My Work  Wiki 1   Wiki 2 05:11, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

oh okay. Munchvtec (talk) 12:40, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

what happend
why didnt anyone write the last naruto anime for the wikia they have the manga but not the anime --Twelvethrower24 (talk) 13:15, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * what? you need to be more clear. Munchvtec (talk) 13:17, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * why didnt no one write for the anime but for the manga yet? --Twelvethrower24 (talk) 13:19, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * There are not many people who write summaries here but it'll be done by today okay. They never go blank for more then a day or two. Munchvtec (talk) 13:21, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * And this, my friends, belongs on the article's talkpage, not here. -_- --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:15, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

sorry i should have told him. Munchvtec (talk) 17:23, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

New Arc Thread
Some intend on creating a new arc based on their own consensus in this thread. What's your opinion on that? -- WindStar7125   05:13, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Quick Suggestion
Just noticed your message. Will get to it soon--~Ultimate Supreme  09:25, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Sorry you had to clean up Kabuto's talk page, still getting use to the wiki. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:05, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

I art here
I'm here. I'm in a bit of a mix of predicaments that keeps me away from being active at the moment. I'm ill for starters. Fell down a flight of stairs and hurt my foot pretty badly. In addition I have attracted the flu. Secondly I've been working so very, very hard to do a semester's work load in one month due to the fact that I have twice the amount of work this semester. Thirdly I've been a bit baffled by the odd rules that have been taken into action since I left, and the unwillingness I find for any change. It's not very encouraging. ~Hakinu (talk 12:04, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Phoarrr... I had some problems with finding the words for your third point in the "Where art thou" message you left me in my absence. Thanks for that, btw. It's nice to feel that people notice my absence. The main problem I've encountered with the wiki is that it's become so focused on the forum and less on content. And it's gone stale with the rules discouraging correcting mistakes, like that whole capital letter for Hokage issue we had a while back. It seriously isn't correct according to English grammar. Anyway, it makes me feel like I have little to contribute to, perhaps except for overhauls. I want to do article overhauls on those that have been ruined by lots of unneccessary details and horrible language. But this will have to wait. For now I think my role will be minimal because of university. I'll have more of the policing kind of role rather than creating content... and for the forums... blargh. If it can be avoided I would rather not have to read through all the boring stuff people tend to bring up for discussion. I'm not that kind of nerd, if you know what I mean. I can get majorly excited about history, Assassin's Creed, Game of Thrones and Doctor Who... but policing people getting extremely agitated over a theoretical discussion about Naruto characters, and even getting nasty with one another? Blargh. ~Hakinu Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk 20:13, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Edit/add: Reading e.g. this extremely intedestin topic makes me blargh what is the point blargh. ~Hakinu Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk 20:16, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hookaborted
In reference to the message you left on the talk page of w:c:dev:Talk:FileUsageAuto-update, would you mind attempting to rename the image once more please? The hookaborted error message is returned from the API and it seems that it might've been a misconfiguration on Wikia's side. If you wouldn't mind trying to rename it again at some point that would be awesome. Thanks! — Foodbandlt (talk) 15:51, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * After talking to a few others, would you mind trying to rename the image to that name manually, as in not using the script? It might be trying to throw an error specific to that image but it's using a generic error "hookaborted" in place of an appropriate one that may not exist.  If it succeeds without error then you can move it back to the original name.  Let me know how it goes please!  — Foodbandlt (talk) 16:40, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Evilryu34
Evilryu34 is engaging in an edit war with yours truly on Karin's page. This person is quite insisting of this piece of trivia being accepted into the article, despite my efforts to inform them that this is not how we roll. Would you be so kind as to take some action? ~Hakinu (talk 16:10, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Weird. Some people need to go out a little bit more. Anyway, you're welcome :D ~Hakinu Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk 16:44, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: File blacklist warning
Try now.~Ultimate Supreme  19:01, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re:moving images
Hi, I only renamed one file as it was named incorrectly, but when I'm done with the tankobon scans, I will look at the script, thanks. It's just that I never had to deal with these command things and am still a bit clueless about them. :D Norleon (talk) 10:41, October 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * I can guess it sounds easy to you, but to me, it's a mystery. I will try it when I find another wrongly named image though. :) Norleon (talk) 12:10, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

user page violation
are you serious man? if you delete mine then go delete everyone else s that is similar. Most of the stuff on my profile is allowed. Munchvtec (talk) 13:03, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

thanks asshole. that was done on purpose. go delete other peoples profiles. Munchvtec (talk) 13:13, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: threads
so its basically like censorship i understand its sad but i guess its needed by the way how is life in macedonia i never was there before im curiousWongo2 (talk) 16:24, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

thats cool so you are on vacation or work ther? lol at first i thought macedonia is near ukraine but thats moldova lolol i was worried because of war in ukraine but youre far away thats goodWongo2 (talk) 16:29, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the user Haxs
He has already been warned multiple times by me and others and now you. he's also been blocked for three days because of his behavior so what should be done? Munchvtec (talk) 17:09, October 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * The comment of his I removed just adds to that. He behaves like 12 years old brat--Elve Talk Page 13:54, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I am probably going to ask for a blockcheck for about a week or two, his behaviour is very disruptive in threads (not to mention the constant double/triple postings). --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:56, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

alright. Munchvtec (talk) 15:21, October 2, 2014 (UTC) So...will nothing be done? Munchvtec (talk) 12:49, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

forum topic history
Doesn't really work http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Board_Thread:Naruto_Discussions/@comment-Naruto9969-20140925215818/@comment-Haxs-20141002134826?curid=143336&action=history

When accessed from the topic itself, it shows it like this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:142175?action=history that's all fine and all, but it would be nice if the messages could be seen too. For example when we remove someone's comment, there's no way to check what the comment was once it's done, only one opportunity to undo the deletion.--Elve Talk Page 14:00, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

That's great, thanks. And I guess my multi-quoting proposition got ignored :P Apparently too much work to implement, or UltimateSupreme doesn't think it's necessary. Well, I think it is, because people are basically forced to doublepost sometime, only to then copy the latter message, merge it with previous and remove the doublepost (those that care, that's it). It's possible to quote multiple messages by writing it out manually, but who is supposed to remember it?--Elve Talk Page 14:10, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

re: quest
I would think one tag gives enough notice.

Unless you want a specific sysop to make a specific action, this sort of request is best placed at Sysop Requests. ~SnapperTo 17:09, October 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * You want a page that you are unable to edit to be edited. That qualifies as a protection-related request: "Is a sysop needed to modify a protected page?" ~SnapperTo 17:52, October 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's still a page you want a sysop to edit. So make a request of the sysops. ~SnapperTo 18:41, October 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just because I'm a sysop does not mean I need to do everything that is asked of me. I'm allowed to have opinions, you know. Which is why I suggested you use the Sysop Requests, so that you can find someone with an opinion different from my own. ~SnapperTo 18:53, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Tabview Arc
How would you like to proceed with this tabview arc? What else do we need to do, and who must we receive permission from? Also, like I said before, I would be happy to do it if someone could briefly instruct me how to do it so I don't mess it up... Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 17:30, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay- do you think either a new thread should be created or a new section in one of the arc's talk pages should be created to discuss the issue? After all, I don't think a lot of users are checking that one forum, and so they probably don't even know about this possible scenario. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:48, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:34, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * In which talkpage will you create a new section? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:39, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay- in which talkpage? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 14:53, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: warning
i have literally Never seen anyone reply in that manner every time someone replies i see them replying to each post in separate posts never once seen them go 10 posts up to edit said post and add reply in said post.

also you said "I don't care what some dictionary says, our definition is to make multiple posts in a row with no other users in between the posts."

so based on that definition i only double posted ONCE in which i replied to post #164 and below that Post #162, so i do not understand why i got a warning for double posting for accidentally doing it Once Actionmanrandell (talk) 12:05, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

FileUsageAuto-update
Hi. I found this script that may help me with renaming files on the Italian Naruto Wiki, which I'm an admin of. Sorry to bother you, but I don't really understand what to do in order to enable that feature on the Italian wiki. Would you be so kind to explain?-- JOA20 16:23, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * I mainly wish to enable this feature so that anyone with admin rights may be able to rename images without having to subsequently edit the pages containing said images. Here are the links you requested.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 16:30, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum threads
Ok. Thanks. Hey do you think you could weigh in an issue I've started on Susanoo's talk page?  Banan 14  kab  07:30, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for breaking the userpage policy
I am sorry for breaking the rules cause if you sign up in a wiki we signed up to all wikis like this so im sorry anyways i didnt know what userpage policy that i breaked like deletion or others?14:01,10/7/14etc'~~~ 14:01, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

chat
It was really fun thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 17:52, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry
sorry :D...had to express my self there...but seriously...didn't mean to offend neither anyone nor the topic...sorry again --DARK ZER06 (talk) 20:02, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Link me to the double post
Because I just checked and I couldn't find a single double post, because I am 100% positive that when I did double post, I removed it. But like I said link me to the double posts. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:38, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not being rude. I knew I deleted my double posts, so it confused me as to why I got warned again about it. Nothing more nothing less, you said it was already deleted right?? Then it's a accident, or misunderstanding. No need to make it anything else. Thanks. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:47, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

There was a post between those two posts. I remember that clearly. But ok. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 23:01, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

New Idea
I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. Munchvtec (talk) 17:10, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

chat chat
It would be cool if the "join chat" button were to appear on the frontpage, wouldn't it?--Elve Talk Page 14:06, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: warning
bruh i know your trying to protect this wiki but damn i deleted a reply that i didny like your acting like i deleting everything on the wiki

YOU MAD OR NAH


 * hi super i'm sorry bout what i said i was wrong to disobey the policiesScottUchiha (talk) 22:40, October 11, 2014 (UTC)ScottUchiha

Chat
May I chat with you? It's about something important. • WindStar7125     22:26, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Just a short chat though. Still doing things in my house. :) • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:27, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Forum Policy redirect
Hey Sajuuk! I created a redirect page called "Forum Policy" so that employing this warning would be possible, rather than just typing in "Forum Warning #1" and a lengthy explanation after it. What do you think? • WindStar7125     05:02, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well that makes two templates. Oh darn! Lol. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 13:50, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Rollback
Thank you very much for the trust. While I do not have actual questions about what should I do as a rollback (since your link already gave me the answers I wanted), I do have a couple questions about that FileUsageAutoUpdate stuff. You remember that I asked you for advice on how to use it, right? I tried using it on the italian wiki, however it seems there's not enough space in the "reason for rename" box to fill in the code required for the "bot" to work (if I understood it right).-- JOA20 09:05, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I tried, but it didn't work, so I used the NewArchive method instead.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 09:22, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Threads
Hey Saj, I know that rollbacks/moderators can remove threads, and sysops can close them. But what's the difference? They both ensure that users can no longer reply to threads that were closed/removed.

Edit: Unless closing threads is a way to avoid anyone restoring a removed one... • WindStar7125     21:05, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok then. Thanks!


 * Edit: Also, I think you should archive your page, lolelolel. It's getting long, IMO. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:15, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh? I usually archive mine after 30 headings, lol. And that's true, some users really have to archive their long-ass pages. I mean really. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:21, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Talk page.
Thanks for the tip. :)--Hisana456 (talk) 09:44, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppet comment accidentally restored
Sorry, the Wikia forums are still unintuitively designed, I think I accidentally restored one of the sockpuppet posts in Thread:144129. Go ahead and re-delete it, the forum styling and logging is so bad I don't even know which one of the posts was the deleted one. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 10:41, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Where've you been?
I'M BACK... Thanks ;) — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:31, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hey. I'm mostly online during the evenings the most, after I get home from work. Anyways, I had no idea how to "chat" properly on this (or any, really) Wikia. Blaezej (talk) 18:55, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 'Grats
This was just a background technical change. The Gadgets system has a much better system than Common.js for loading things. The loading is integrated with MediaWiki's Resource Loader and also has proper loading of separate CSS pages. Wikia doesn't even have a UI for users to disable Gadgets (unless they know the special trick), the reason we had Gadgets installed in the first place was to use for loading the different modules of tools, etc... that we have in place of Common.js.

For a bit of off-wiki info: Common.js is actually enough of an old legacy system in MediaWiki that discussions about deprecating it have popped up in wikitech-l (MediaWiki's development mailing list). Also wikis like MediaWiki.org have moved their entire Common.js into a single "Site" gadget. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:00, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikia's skin customizations to Special:Preferences don't have Gadgets handling, so the Gadgets tab doesn't show up when a normal user visits preferences.
 * Unfortunately you might be right about it being unstable, I wish Wikia would fix their track record when it comes to making sure that standard MediaWiki extensions work (Gadgets is even bundled with the MediaWiki tarball).
 * Btw, it looks like Gadgets was already being used for some semi-essential functionality like the sig reminder.
 * ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:12, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * The Gadgets tab showing up on the Wikia skin is actually strange. When it was working before it showed up in MonoBook but not Wikia for me. And when I requested Gadgets they even warned me it wouldn't be available in preferences for Wikia skin users (though of course they could have fixed that).
 * Gadgets was used for SigReminder (the scripts that ensure users sign their talkpage edits) so that reasoning doesn't really make sense. The ForumTags script is based off of a dev.wikia script that was meant to go in Common.js and Gadgets is a system that not everyone knows about yet (especially since it's present here on custom request like SMW/etc..., not a standard Wikia feature), hence why it was added to a Common.js imported script first.
 * ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:34, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking, I should mention, there's no such thing as a script that absolutely needs to be loaded at all times for all users. Our site scripts can be blocked at the browser level and as long as Wikia hasn't screwed up MonoBook too much you can edit with JS disabled. And ultimately JS is not absolute, is run on the user's computer which they have control over, there are any number of ways to bypass something a script does.
 * The difference is really just modules that add optional extras most people don't need vs. modules that add stuff useful to everyone that may be used from some templates, etc...
 * Disabling VotesTally does make the bars on the template not work and disabling ForumTags does make it hard to see a user's tag, so there's no reason any normal user would bother disabling them. But if someone does intentionally disable it they don't really break the wiki, they just make some templates or some bonus feature not work correctly for themselves personally.
 * Though there is an interesting idea that would take advantage of the ability to disable default gadgets. Beta/alpha gadgets for devs. Right now you to fix or add something you have to edit the live script that's serving everyone and you can't test it, so if you make a mistake, you break it for everyone. Using Gadgets you could make a second copy of the Gadget, and enable it while disabling the default gadget.
 * Anyways after Wikia fixes Gadgets we can look and see if it's possible to turn the default-functionality section into a collapsed advanced options section. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:13, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, once I do a little more testing and get something to eat I should start working. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:23, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Forum admin
No, it just means I need 3 test users for testing to work. One makes normal user posts. One has forumadmin. And a third shows the non-admin non-mod interface, since the first can't be used for that since he has partial extra rights on his own posts, and I personally have full sysop rights. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:49, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * But on the actual topic of forumadmin. It does look like it's broken in my initial tests.
 * When I talked to staff they did mention there was an issue specific to Elder Scrolls and there are other wikis that already have working forum specific moderators.
 * But I actually think I might have found the source of our bug, I asked for another change that will let me test that estimate and we'll see what happens. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:51, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like I was right. Wikia's Forum extension is heavily based off of their Wall extension and a lot of the code handling Forums actually simply defers to the Wall extension. As a result for some of the actions like post editing and thread closing, Wall is actually in charge of the rights checks, and instead of checking for forumadmin it checks for wall related rights like wallarchive and walledit.
 * So one option would actually be to make forumadmins also wall admins until Wikia fixes the rights handing for Forums. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:23, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope, Forums depend on the underlying Walls code, but the Walls themselves don't need to be enabled. The integration is fundamental to the Forums, if Walls had to be enabled completely for part of Forums to work, it would affect the entire extension and we wouldn't have any forums without the Walls.
 * I've already tested it, as a test our forumadmin group right now has walledit and wallarchive, and I was able to successfully edit a post and close a thread as my test mod. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:42, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's because for some reason WallMessage::canEdit does this:
 * Checking for either walledit or rollback when deciding whether a user is allowed to edit a post that's not theirs.
 * I'm not certain why Wikia did that. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:49, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain why Wikia did that. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:49, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Uploads
I mostly replace jpg with png.. and sometimes my internet goes crazy and upload some images twice or so.. sorry 'bout that ^^". Chieko ^_^ (talk) 20:05, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Appeal
I would like to apologize for my behavior before; It was unconducted and extremely unbecoming as a wiki editor on this or any wiki in general. And I want to make up for my mistakes by respecting this wiki's policies from now on and in the future. I'm sorry for acting like a child. Superlogan7437 (talk) 23:23, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * I would also like to plea for leniency so that I may edit without being called for vandalism. Superlogan7437 (talk) 01:26, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chat
Sorry, I think something went wrong with my internet connection! Not sure if you saw the last thing I sent in chat, but, if you have any feature suggestions, feel free to just go through Special:Contact to make the suggestion :) Grace (profile)•(talk) 16:40, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Tobirama's anime image
Sorry, I didn't see that comment tag. And you're right, the anime depiction is quite difficult to see. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:32, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

I am well aware of both the discussion and how image swapping works. I know why I asked Shakhmoot to upload the image. But thank you for your input.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 01:18, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I've decided to change the scene for the same purpose with a better anime depiction with changing some words in the description. If you have any objection, I'm ready and you can revert it. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 04:13, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Forgive the sarcasm. I should have made it painstakingly clear that your input was not necessary. I will know better next time. Maybe you should leave mainspace affairs to people who actually contribute to it.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 15:06, October 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's possible to be belligerent and sarcastic. You have to decide which one I am.
 * I don't recall attacking anyone. I have very low tolerance for you on the best of days - I cannot help that.
 * You forgot to add that condescending smile you've taken to using as of late.
 * Bye Felicia. ;D --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:19, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chat Request
I'm in the chat Saj. We'll PM each other. :) • WindStar7125     19:09, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Naruto Answers
I get your point, but wasn't Naruto Answers created specifically only for answering questions? Don't they also have a better interface for that type of need? I am not part of Naruto Answers, but I have to ask out of curiosity, are we on bad terms with them (from what I can see Narutopedia's users are editing there also), or why exactly do you think redirecting the question there is a bad idea? --Vecanoi (talk) 01:55, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
That user ive been dealing with on the death note wiki says he knows you from the elder scrolls wiki and he hate you lol Munchvtec (talk) 13:16, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

I found one of @The Blind Sorcerer's other accounts that was blocked. http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/User:Username_Not_Required Munchvtec (talk) 17:08, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

He made another account today called http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/User:StillDead6. though he got blocked but he was able to vandalize multiple things before being banned. Munchvtec (talk) 15:30, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

He is back and has threatened to attack Narutopedia. Munchvtec (talk) 13:13, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

I requested an IP block though he could just change his IP. I hope this works. Munchvtec (talk) 17:23, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Nope
The multiple times you whine to me about making episode pages, nobody has shown to care. And last time you did this, TU3 clearly stated there is nothing wrong with what I am doing and that he does not care in the slightest. You, who is in the running as sysop, are not one and you don't have the authority of one, possibly currently. But little stunts like this will show people you are unfit. You can whine all you want, if the mods don't care, you shouldn't care, and you aren't better than them if you so. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 14:55, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not "playing victim" nor am I "crying", this is about you ignoring what mods say and thinking you got authority. And it's funny, I haven't even seen you leaving Shakhmoot violation warnings about this "issue" and he has made episode articles earlier than me before. And you are providing more proof why you shouldn't be a sysop, so keep responding the way you are now if you want this position so badly. And to drill this into your thoughts. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 16:02, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Again
And I'm pointing out the rule is pure bullock. It clearly states not to release the episode until it is out officially on Crunchyroll. Awesome. But the Naruto chapter we've read today doesn't actually get released until next Monday and nobody gives a fig tree. So long as the episode is officially released Somewhere on this planet. It's golden. Where you choose to watch it is not our problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 16:35, October 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * So you shall. But do note, that being non-biased is not one to one with agreeing with you. You'd have a point, if the manga situation didn't blatantly fly in the face of that very policy. I would be more than willing to enforce the policy if we could also enforce it for the manga chapter as well. We do not, so why should the anime one be subject to it as well? Especially if the manga chapters we put up are completely illegal while the episode DID AIR IN JAPAN.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 16:45, October 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * I mean, it is really common sense at work here so it's laughable how you can look at the screen with what I would assume is a straight face and say "Well it's fine to post manga stuff illegally, cayuse screw Japan but damned if don't give Crunchyroll their dues!"--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 16:47, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

re: deleting
Why should I care about retaining the functionality of IP talk pages that have only been edited by the WelcomeBot?

In the five years I've been using the wiki, I don't believe anyone's ever had cause for complaint about not updating links on talk pages. Congratulations, I guess. ~SnapperTo 16:02, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: By the way...
Blocking is a very heavy permission, I'm not going to make it part of a viral group like rollback is.

And group rights for pages cannot be applied to individual pages. The rights to edit those two protected pages would be the protect right that lets you edit every protected page on the wiki, protect, unprotect, and edit every site-wide JS page on the wiki.

JS permissions are also a dangerous thing to give out. Besides being easily broken, and having a potential for malicious insertion of malware or incompetent insertion of XSS vectors, they can be used to trick sysop accounts into using sysop powers.

So I'm not going to grant that to Forum Admin either.

The Forum Admin rights are just so you can moderate the forums and deal with any recurring problem users who keep harassing other users or abusing the forums. You don't need extra rights to modify forum policies, etc... just handle those as normal. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:03, October 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, right, the MediaWiki: pages are editinterface. But ForumChanges.js is a MediaWiki page. And there is no editprotectedpages, though it does look like editprotected exists, but Wikia doesn't include it in the rights for some reason. It only seems to work where cascading protection isn't used.
 * Trusting someone with block rights, which can easily be undone and revoked, is significantly different than trusting someone with the rights to insert malware, break the site such that the average sysop doesn't understand how to access the tools to undo it, and trick users with higher permissions into doing actions like rights grants that can only be undone by staff.
 * I don't know how many people I'm going to be giving Forum Admin in the end, or what the variety of trust they have is.
 * I did a full scan of the code, there is no mention of boardedit in any of Wikia's extensions besides the lines that grant it. So it doesn't actually appear to be used anywhere.
 * ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

comment removal
According to the thread history, he managed to remove one before getting banned, there's no way to see which comment he removed, is there?--Elve Talk Page 13:18, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

It can't work in a more stupid way, can it? >_<--Elve Talk Page 13:23, October 27, 2014 (UTC)