Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-34656247-20180823024124

AsianReaper wrote: No, it's not square, because the Raikage specifically dashed toward him. And since they were in midair, the Raikage had speed from his initial jump while Madara didn't. Well they're now claiming that he's is not slower than Ay, and with the fact that he saw Ay's fist next to his jaw should mean that he was supposed to completely evade the attack if he was actually faster or was as fast,, a head tilt to the back was all that was needed, but he could'nt and didn't do it...

CombatIQmatters wrote: We don't know what Madara's speed is. I will look into more edo madara feats, but I don't think they exist. But just because he is featless doesn't make him slow...but that said nothing about how Ayy's running speed would actually compare to Madara's running speed. We have alot of speed feats for Ay, and has only one for Edo Madara which is the one where he was fighting fodder ninjas, seeing as how that's all we have we will have to go with that. Can Edo Madara tag Ay with the level of speed he used in 560 page 8? you decide, i think it's clear...if the answer is no, then Ay wins until we have a better feat for Edo Madara.

But then when you take a step back and realize that amaterasu's speed and potency are inconsistent (gaara's sand could react to amaterasu and not part 1 weightless lee in the 1st gate, hebi curse mark sasuke also avoided itachu's initial amaterasu burst, its kinda hard to scale. Well sasuke said that he was Guarding himself with that Amaterasu, on that chapter [464] he kinda used Amaterasu randomly, trying to occupy the sands maybe cuz we can see a lump of sand floating way above gaara but sasuke would aim there if he wanted to hit gaara? [then it can be argued, why would he just use it like that and not try to hit gaara instead? well if look at his current state it can probably answer that queston..]

Factor in the fact that even an Old hirzuen is faster than EMS sasuke, sasuke, while fast, isn't the best test of Raikage's speed. Again dude it wasn't a race...if so then that would also mean that Hiruzen is as fast as Tobirama also cuz they kinda arrived at the same time. It would also mean that jugo is as fast as EMS Sasuke cuz he arrived with sasuke..

And by your own logic, obito is slow, so therefore Raikage blitzing him at the summit wouldn't be as impressive either. I got lost here, but how exactly? [I agree with everything else ig ;_;]

Except Obito rofl blitzed kakashi with a shuriken to the leg without any kind of reaction from kakashi. You could make the argument kakashi was emotionally-off centered, but he had no trouble making an earth wall to block shurikens just a few seconds earlier. Was that even a blitz dudee? thats something close to what kid sakura did to zaku???? [in terms of speed]..A few pages after, Naruto's clone came to save Kakashi, a few panels later Obito was about to stab Naruto with a shuriken, kakashi got up,formed a raikiri and got to where Obito was, broke the shuriken...all that before Obito could even reach to Naruto. [and he's above kcm speed? He was supposed to rofl blitz naruto and kakashi in a blink of a rinnegan there o.O]