Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27202380-20151125000104/@comment-734582-20151126114217

UltimaDude wrote: Your theory is wrong because the manga says it's wrong. Path and ideals doesn't necessarily has to be those of the progenitor Specifically, the path of Ashura is that you do not start out strong but gather the power and wisdom of people around you. Hashirama started this at an early age and so was ahead (and stayed ahead) of Madara. However, their power was mostly equal.

Secondly, the path of Indra is the path that has natural power, which actually seems to directly translate into powerful eyes. However, as with Sasuke, it still needs training.

Hashirama was never a "no-good", he was a genius kid Neither has anything to do with the intent behind the Transmigrancy. What makes you Ashura is that you rely on other's powers, e.g. how Hashirama relied Tobirama to be the pragmatic voice or how he relied on Madara to end the Warring States.

Hashirama was the genius of the two. If anything Madara was the hard worker and the screw up of the two. Hashirama realized he needed cooperation to win, while Madara believed he needed his own power. Ashura's path is the former, Indra's path is the latter.

The Transmigrancy is not about idiot vs genius. It's about one who believes on other's powers vs only his own. Hashirama reached out to Madara. That alone makes him Ashura