Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20180501230717/@comment-30207214-20180503152701

If we just consider stated stuff as argumentation for our points would this be senseless, your own statement is in the first placed flawed and is boasting the Kinkaku Squad at the same time Quadra. Madara fought an army on his own with just his taijutsu alone, so no EMS usage and considering that Madara and Izuna were seen as equally strong and Tobirama beating Izuna verifies, that those 20 Ninjas were stronger than all the people Madara fought back then during a hand to hand combat. Let's not forget that Tobirama wasn't really fighting, as a decoy was he stalling until his squad was safe, meaning that he had to keep the attention of 20 people at him and not make them go for the others. Let's not forget, that he didn't see himself, Hiruzen, Danzo and etc. win against them. It takes just simple logic to scale them, simply from the situation, decision and results of it. The Kinkaku Squad is with that a very strong squad. To sum it up: MS Madara~Izuna and Izuna < Tobirama...

"And Tobirama himself admitted inferiority in Minato’s teleporting skills the first time Minato teleported and Minato wasn’t using Jinchuriki chakra then..." Lol. Thats a complete lie and to 100% am I sure right now, that you are sucking on Minato. You may ask why and I am gonna answer this now, Tobirama didn't state that Minato was superior at FTG, something that actually Lorenzo told you on another discussion, Tobirama stated that Minato's Body Flicker was superior tjan his own, something I actually mentioned previously too and you for some reason don't WANT to accept.

Minato fought stronger opponents than Tobirama? You are to 100% downgrading him to a very ignorant level, sone that beat Izuna who was seen as strong as MS Madara... Wow and Ay is stronger than Tobirama? That can just be a joke. Tobirama has mastery of all basic elements, has one of the best basics and creator of 3 extraordinary jutsus, that were onw of the most amazing assets of the last 2 wars. Edo Tensei, FTG, Multiple SC...

"Tobirama could teleport 2 Tailed Beast Mode users but couldnt teleport more than a handful of ninja at once." Sorry, I am not the writer.

"Minato also makes better use of hiraishin." It's more the case that he is using it more, than Tobirama does, as I explained already, while Tobirama was the fastest ninja during his lifetime, was he nevee a speedster, but a trickster as Madara stated it. He usually makes the opponent feel like he is going to win and then strikes, when the opponent is off guard. That's basicly how Naruto beat Neji and requires alot of wit. That basicly confirmed, that he is more of a tricky fighter, that utilisies his speed for his gimmicks, his brain and wit is his main asset and not his speed.

"Yea that’s true. And remember he said this before Minato even used Kurama. Tobirama complimented Minato in teleporting and called him superior when Minato was in base mode. In case ppl come up with BS saying that it was only cuz Minato had kyuubi chakra." With all respect, that is ignorance how it is written in the book, you clearly didn't read my post at all and simply respond with a point, that I already stated to be wrong... here: "it was never stated that Minato was better at FTG than Tobirama. Tobirama admitted, that Minato's Body Flicker surpassed his own.", independent of what I say, you wouldn't believe me and keep spread this lie, so to stop you... Check chapter 631.

My point that the Kinkaku Squad is a Squad full of S rankers stands, as it would justify, why Tobirama the current Kage and a S ranked Shinobi with the newly "made" Hokage Hiruzen and a complete squad with Danzo and Kagami couldn't beat them, while a Madara with worse "stats" could completely outpace an army solely with his Sharingan, yet was Tobirama able to beat Izuma, who was seen equally strong as MS Madara.

My point that Tobirama's usage of FTG wasn't inferior to Minato's still stands too, as your both statements (Legion & Quadra) were in the first place wrong, as it was clearly stated in Chapter 631, that Minato's Body Flicker was the superior one and considering the wordings of your statements did you actually mean that scene. That's why it's funny that you asked from the person to read the manga, since the manga states "Body Flicker" and the anime teleportation... I gave even a reason of why Minato was able to save those ninjas with his FTG and Tobirama not, it was simply due to the Kyubi's chakra as it obviously has way more viablity, than the chakra of a regular human. Your counter statement to that was proven wrong so... (Chapter 631).

Please read everything before you reply and I am sorry, when I stated something wrong.