Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-6769189-20180802114602

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

He exits and enters the dimension the same way, while he is entering the dimension, focus on the feet, while he is exiting do the same..you'll see that his feet no longer has contact with the ground as soon as the jutsu starts so that means he can't push himself off of the ground as you say he did. He also enters face first but isnt subject to gravity until he fully materialized. If he was crouching on the other side he could push himself.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

The fact that he was falling means that he was in motion... Not in the panel where he was first shown materializing

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

You said footspeed can be applied to skips and jumps,picture yourself standing still, but then you were instructed to jump on spot do you need footspeed to do that? nope, just energy in your muscles which then creates the push (as you said)...here you'll basically BE using an object to push yourself from, hence that can be the floor or the floating rocks in Obito and Naruto's case, i understand your example but that doesn't really apply to this situation as these guys were just pushing their feet off of one rock jumping to another and repeating... The initial force of the push would be the same as the force applied to a running step. Running is like a bunch of tiny jumps with forward momentum as opposed to upward momentum. This momentum is kept constant with each step.

Jumping from rock to rock is the same concept but with a little bit more time between steps. Considering the space between Naruto/Obitos jumps are pretty much equal to the amount ofspace between running steps(leg span) its more than safe to say they are maintaining momentum as if they were running on a horizontal surface. From Obito's pose its clear that he is pushing off with one foot, same as a run.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

This coincidentally denies your point with Obito falling on Naruto after he opens the dimension in mid air, he needs something to push himself off of....the use of kamui shows that he doesn't so it's just gravity and that point of yours dies off here now. Considering how much faster than gravity Naruto moves he should have traveled significantly more distance than he did when compared to the distance Obito traveled to the ground.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Actually he did, Naruto became hokage and stuff, whilst obito turned to ash ;_; You can ignore the fact that Naruto almost died in this moment and its clear he wasnt going to save himself. Because he wasnt fast enough to escape Obito.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Yep, so all he could do was look dumb like as you said naruto was.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Because he was midfall with no solid surface to push himself off of

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

This was your speed feat right here considering Obito went from the end of Naruto's chakra hand all the way to about a foot from his face before Naruto could plant his back foot on the ground. Deny it all you want but Obito ran at least a yard at Naruto before Naruto could finish the step he was in the middle of while he was running.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

So can obito blitz? no? good then we're fine here. Besides the path was like moving in mid air..... Yes. He can speed blitz. He did it to Kakashi. And he would have done it for Naruto on 2 occasions had it not been for outside interference.

Asura path was using rocket boosters and had full control over his position AND was in the line of sight of every other Pain along with Naruto.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

He phases through everything..but my point was after he steals a path at the beginning of the battle it would be difficult to do that again when Nagato notices that obito has a sneaky ability which cost him one path without him even knowing...he would definitely, most certainly increase his field of vision. Obito had tanked hits from KCM Naruto. He wont have a problem if he has to let the Asura/Naraka/Animal/Human land a hit if it means he can kill a Pain. He only has fire Jutsu, various kunai and shuriken, a war fan, wood release etc etc.