Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-6769189-20171014184106

Being chosen as a successor does not make someone the strongest. If orochimaru was the stringest he would have Sage Mode, but he was too weak. Jiraiya could do it though. Tsunade can crack Susanoo with a punch. Oro is not the strongest, he is arguably the most knowledgable about justu of the sannin. Orochimaru could not even take on Itachi, who would probably get owned by Pain, whom Jiraiya managed to kill one of the bodies.

Just because Kakshi admitted Guy surpassed him after 8 gates doesnt mean that was the moment he was surpassed. He and Guy were close in rivalry, after the 8 Gates Kakashi realised how outclassed he was.

Dan was alive well into the 3rds tenure. He seen what he could do and he believed in comparison to what he saw of Hashirama that only Hashirama stood a chance against Madara. Hiruzen was bragging to ease the tensions of everyone knowing he was going to die if he ran out to be a decoy.

Again, talent=/=strongest. Plenty of "untalented" characters have pulled off feats and surpassed "talented" characters. Naruto matched Sasuke, Guy surpassed Kakashi, Jiraiya succeeded multiple times where Oro failed.

Hiruzen got kicked before he used up stamina. Again Enma was not stated to be a speed feat, just something unexpected. Your assumprion that it was a speed feat is a rather baseless assumption.

Technically Viz is the official translation.