Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200621203703/@comment-45444155-20200708203019

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

No, the question is different. Madara entered Sage Modo Hashirama because:

- had his cells and absorbed his chakra sage?

- absorbed his chakra sage? He still stole it.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

And how is SPSM different from SM? Only the chakra. You just answered your own question

ReweR 1331 wrote:

The method of absorbing natural energy is the same, hence Naruto has both SM and SPSM in the frog's eyes. Just because the method of gathering natural energy is the same doesnt make the the same. Snake Sages, Toad Sages, Hashirama, all have different abilities and visual cues.

The the horizontal eyes are not exclusive to Toad Senjutsu. SPSM eyes having them doesnt mean the abilities are related ReweR 1331 wrote:

Chakra Naruto ≠ chakra six paths. Naruto can simply form it and mix it with nature's energy, hence the SPSM. SPSM is a different kind of senjutsu, just like wind release: Rasengan and regular Rasengan. He choose which version of Sage Mode to use

ReweR 1331 wrote:

You can also think of Chidori Sasuke, which used the chakra six paths to become black. In the valley of completion, Sasuke used not only Chidori but also various Lighting Release techniques, but they are not painted black. This also suggests that chakra Sasuke ≠ chakra six paths Sasuke was able to cut Madara in half with a regular colored Chidori Eso so clearly it isnt regular chakra.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

He used the Kurama chakra before he activated the cape. It felt like the Kurama chakra was mandatory for SPSM activation. No he did not and no it was not.

You don't understand again, the question is, did Madara activate SM Hashirama because he had his cells and his chakra sage, or do Hashirama's cells play no role?

Yes, SM and SPSM are only different from the chakra, that's understandable. But you write that after meeting with Hagoromo, the Naruto chakra turned into a chakra of six paths, so he should always use SPSM.

Naruto has a horizontal pupil in the SPSM because it absorbs natural energy using the frog method. No one has taught him to absorb natural energy in another way.

Your example with Rasengan and Wind Release: Rasengan does not fit into this. Rasengan is a simple chakra and Wind Rasengan is a chakra after nature transformation process. This scheme is only suitable if Naruto can create the chakra six paths, and does not have it by default.

No, it is not a simple chidori. First of all, Jinchuriki Ten-tails is invulnerable to simple ninjutsu, + do you really think Sasuke attacked with a simple chidori when he told Naruto to use the six paths chakra before? Secondly, his chidori is painted in a black outline. Please compare this version of chidori with previous and subsequent, you will find the difference.

The horizontal pupil means that Naruto uses the frog method to absorb natural energy. The vertical pupil means that Naruto uses the Nine-Tails chakra.

UPD: please come into your next discussion