Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27233105-20160130092635/@comment-27660682-20160223201008

@Asian

Yes I believe you are lying, and now you are trying to censor me. No you didnt provide any rebuttal, as like I said, I have multiple quotes that you did not once respond to. You call that a fair discussion? Your fanon theory is already countered on multiple ends by actual facts and much of what you said are false statements, so it isnt opinionated, like I said perception of time=/= real time. Your theory directly implies that kurama will break minato out of tsyukyomi in 1/72 of a second assuming kurama and minato spend an hour in the tsyukyomi world, which is bs because it was canocially stated tsyukyomi is instant when cast with the time manipulation on massive scales. Itachi said tsyukyomi is only breakable by an uchiha in response to kakashi trying to prepare to break any ms genjustu using his sharigan, without the use of a partner. But that didnt matter because itachi casted tsyukyomi with massive time manipulation, causing the effects to be instant and uncancellable, and kakashi remarks this. What are you are saying is fictious, and you have the nerve to say that I cant comprehend logic( which is just as insulting as anything you find insulting from what ive said).

Furthermore, more lies about what kakashi said. Granny chiyo said these three things: they either needed to hit itachi to cancel his jutsu, distract itachi to buy time for the victim to break out, or use partner method to break the victim out. Kakashi says that those options wont work because tsyukyomi is instant. Itachi then agrees, saying kakashi has learned alot about tsyukyomi. Breaking the genjustu when it is used with time manipulation is canocically impossible. I have every right in the world the call you out on lying when you have consistently altered what the characters have said in that panel.

You also lied about itachi not being capable of casting the tsyukyomi without time manipulation when not only has it been shown that he was capable of changing the time from 72 to 24 hours on two separate occasions, it was stated by Danzo that he can change time on a whim,  in his fight with hebi sasuke he casted the jutsu in real time , in his fight with kabuto he casted tsyukyomi twice, once on sasuke and the other on kabuto, without time manipulation. Yet you deny these facts. Itachi nerfed his tsyukyomi against hebi sasuke by not applying time manipulation. Now since sasuke is an uchiha, he was able to break tsyukyomi because the jutsu did not have time manipulation to make its effects instant. You cant insult someone, then get proved wrong, ignore my arguments, then try to censor me from explaining when the information you stated is relevant to the thread and is a big factor in who wins or loses this fight. Dont think I am resistant to fair and healthy debate, but you cant look someone in the face and tell them you were 100 percent honest about your comprehension of chapter 257 and then proceed to censor my discussion on this matter. I give the benefit of the doubt that you are capable of reading, so I insinuate you being dishonest on the grounds that not only have some of my arguments been completely ignored, you are now trying to end the discussion,  when people like slaphap dont seem to  be on the same pagewhy minato cannot be freed from tsyukyomi in time. Sure, I can discuss it on your wall, but that serves no point as the information needs to be spread for the sake of this discussion. If I was rude, I apologize, but I still stand by my claim that you are purposely ignoring the information I presented to hide the dishonesty I believe you are engaging in till further notice.