Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-34700383-20180831231713


 * When I’m say ‘you’ I’m adressing all those who countered this far.*

You were shown manga evidence for proof of sagehood and proof of rikudo sagehood. You were also shown databook evidence corroborating the proof of rikudo sagehood.

You went on to claim a different metric for proof of rikudo sagehood, but ultimately failed to support it. You instead attempted to supplement lack of acknowledgement of sagehood and acknowledgement of rikudo seals as that of rikudo sagehood. The error in logic was pointed out to you, but fallacies ensued. You were given a breakdown of the TSOs and it’s requirements. You pointed out a flaw in the presented logic and corrected me on a minor point about the ability, but debunk the main point. You opted to mention an outlier feat or more simply put and unknown source that managed to produce TSOs. This still didn’t take away from my point because of the level of uncertainty surrounding the feat. You were explained thoroughly rikudo senjutsu and it’s relation to rsm. You opted to deny and bring up fallacy. You even deliberately restate counters mentioned in the OP. This proves either denial or that you failed to fully read the OP.

You were provided with ample evidence to support all stances and statements, leaving very little to speculation. Whereas you have been largely speculating, thinking that somehow hallmarks of frog sage mode means anything to rsm. When you were shown that isn’t the case, you then attempted to argue in circles.

The initial reply attempted to speak for me, rather than further inquire, and opted to move straight into denfense of a consensus that has been proven wrong with this post. It’s premise: hokage Naruto retained 8 biju chakra fragments. This was ultimately debunked. But this went ignored and was deflected from only to return to later on.

There was a comment expressing dis belief that Naruto would keep his rsm but not use it. Now if you consider how Minato, since his death, hasn’t used sage mode for exactly 17 years, yet the moment he gathers the required power(senjutsu) he enters the form without difficultly. If you draw that comparison to the current hokage Naruto who also hasn’t used rsm in nearly 17 years. You’ll see that Naruto is in much of the same situation and is more like his father than previously thought. You wouldn’t say Minato lost his sage mode because he didn’t use it over 17 years. No, he’d still be classified as a sage. In the same manner, you’d be wrong to say Naruto lost his rikudo sage mode just because gen doesn’t use it. I’m sure there are those who read my post and jump the the conclusion that I think Naruto lost rsm, that isn’t my claim but more importantly that was never proven. So the same way Minato gathered the necessary nature energy and reentered sage mode, Naruto would have to gather the necessary juubi chakra before reentering rsm, just like he did during VOTE2. Naruto powered down from rsm after resealing kaguya, yet goes back into that form and juubi’ chakra is shown present again. Databook establishes just as madara did, chakra greater than kurama is needed. It was proven that hokage Naruto kept some amount of rikudo chakra, this was done so that you wouldn’t not mistake that greater chakra for something it isn’t. That superior power is the juubi’ chakra. Madara obito and Naruto were considered juubi jinchuriki which was proven, this always results in rikudo senjutsu which was also proven. It’s the only power that allows Naruto to enter rsm.

In conclusion, a collective effort to deny, very little effort to support any claims made(I countered 3-5 citations total, and only 1 link), and no consideration for new information. That describes all the counter arguments. I’ve been transparent this whole time. I am humble enough to admit when I was wrong. Yet you aren’t. I’ve given you ample evidence to prove that you were wrong on multiple fronts.

@AsianReaper who exactly deals with the rsm page? Who edits and fact checks what’s on that page?