Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34656247-20181008062436/@comment-34194151-20181016014102

LegionZero

The problem is that you still can't explain why kurenai simply saw itachi appear behind kakashi. Kurenai isn't a genius or insightful, and she is the least experienced of the 3 jonin there at the time. But she isn't an idiot, she earned her stripes. She knows what the formation of a kage bunshin looks like. If she saw itachi coming out of the water, she would have said so and warned kakashi. She was at the perfect angle to see everything going on behind kakashi. The shadow clone didn't appear behind kakashi until after the water wall dissipated. Asuma would have seen it as well, both asuma and kisame were obviously watching itachi's fight, don't know how know how you missed that. kisame even commented on kakashi's usage of water clones. Futhermore, I want you to look very, very carefully on chapter 141 pg 15, asuma looked away to see kurenai for a split second, but then he immediately turns his head back to kisame. asuma would have still seen itachi, because itachi and kurenai were both behind kisame during their little taijutsu scuffle. Look at those panels. kurenai was kicked over the railing not too far away from where asuma is standing. Itachi should still be in his field of vision. It's literally impossible for him to not to be, because itachi moved on to the water. Asuma would have seen both of the itachi's. The only way he would lose sight of the real itachi is if itachi dissappeared into the trees on asuma's left side. The problem with that however, is that in order to then get behind kakashi, itachi literally would have to jump across the water where everyone would see him coming. there is no other way, unless itachi has some unstated teleportation technique. and how would you would be able to tell that itachi has no ripples at his feet? the ripples shown could belong to either him or kakashi, so you will need to explain your reasoning so I understand.

The reason I said your trapped is because even if I am wrong, you still have to concede that itachi is good at what he does. You're telling me that in those small intervals of time, he managed to take advantage of small laspes in his enemie's attention, completely escape their line of sight, hiding out who knows where, left a clone behind that jumps on to the water next to kurenai, and then appear at the right moment to strike down his enemy from behind? Who else has achieved a clone feint feat at that level? He literally did to kabuto multiple times, and kabuto is a perfect sage, a top tier sensor. How do the pains stand a chance against that, when they couldn't even sense naruto sneaking up on naraka path? Literally, the only other people at that level of clone feint mastery are hashirama and madara. naruto has great clone feint feats but he usually has achieved them by virtue of using several clones. kakashi clearly got outplayed in the clone feint game. his clone feint was way too slow, and he doesn't have much variety. He literally always hides underground or underwater in 99 percent of his clone feints.

Lol relax. I never stated itachi is fast enough to outright blitz kabuto without kabuto reacting. kabuto is a perfect sage after all. I simply said he could match kabuto's speed. Kabuto literally reacted to the crows the same way each and every time. he was disoriented. itachi was easily able to steal the sword each and every time and cut off his horn each and every time. Some of the feats happened in the genjutsu, but that was a realistic genjutsu. I see no reason why itachi couldn't replicate those feats in the real world, unless your saying itachi can't use the water-style jutsu we see him using in kabuto's dream world. Kabuto couldn't outright blitz itachi without catching him off guard. Itachi literally turned off susano'o, and you can even see itachi's focus is on the kabuto corpse that is many feet away from them. he didn't expect kabuto to be able to use orochimaru's snake head for the oral rebirth. While kabuto hitting itachi there was a feat, it still required a huge surprise factor, because he couldn't do that to the real itachi before or after.