Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26107879-20181004003653/@comment-34194151-20181009175500

1) There is plenty. Again my point about KCM naruto and bee still stands. where was their body flicker when they were restrained by Nagato? enough said. Only FTG users can escape that predicament they were in. Where do the random logs come from? where did itachi's crows come from against sage mode kabuto? if substitution is mere high speed movement then where was this high speed movement in other instances? If substitution really works the way kishimoto described then why did kcm naruto fail to use his body flicker in order to save his own life? Pain was able to escape jiraiya's lion mane jutsu despite being physically unable to move. That isn't physically possible without the use of a space time technique.

2) We are going in circles at this point. Tunnel vision has never been stated or shown to be caused by running in a straight line. This is debunked in almost every fight in the manga. tunnel vision has only been attributed to running with chidori or raikiri without the aid of sharingan or ration armor. that same weightless rock lee ran in a straight line without any tunnel vision issues multiple times. IDK what else to tell you. Might Gai debunks you. Minato telling kakashi to never use chidori again debunks you. nowhere did he tell kakashi to stop running in a straight line.

3) Debunked. raikiri and chidori only cause the tunnel vision effect when running, which is the whole point of why you need a sharingan to use it while running. the speed supplied by the jutsu pushes the normal limits of the user. I've always said kakashi can still use it while standing still, but at that point he might as well use a kunai.

4) Debunked by point 2. Sasuke gains a speed boost with chidori that would cause tunnel vision if he lacked the "special eye". You select one line out of rock lee's statement without looking at the words he used,"that speed", "can't", "wouldn't", "in that manner", putting all those phrases together means he is clearly referring to the speed boost sasuke gained from using chidori. weightless and gateless Rock lee is equal to sasuke's base speed so he is obviously saying that he if he learned the chidori while using the weightless speed the boost would push him over the edge. Chidori's speed would push him over the edge. you can't just look at rock lee's statement in a vacuum, his comments are directly a result of hearing Might Gai's dialogue on the jutsu.

5) Gai stated that raikiri/chidori produces a stabbing speed that pushes the limits of the human body, what more do you want from me?