Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37265641-20181022021850/@comment-34194151-20181102020847

I can throw that right back at you.

Quit downplaying itachi. He is a genius of all three shinobi forms of combat. he has a fast sword of sealing that most characters can't react to, a shield that deflects most attacks.He was stated to be invincible sufficient he has the yata mirror and totsuka blade, said by Black Zetsu himself, the will of Kaguya,one of the most ancient and knowledgable sources of information in the series, someone who has watched madara and hashirama fight for decades. Itachi one shotted nagato and orochimaru without a mental reaction. Naruto fans need to stop downplaying itachi's feats. his only practical weakness as a shinobi is his pitiful stamina, but it's just enough for him to execute his win condition against over 90 percent of the cast.

Lol no, you can't even tell me where obito was all those years. Prove that Itachi could find him all alone in a dark alley when clearly that wasn't the case. The akatsuki members mostly travel in pairs, and itachi and obito had an agreement. Kisame is with itachi the whole time, and kisame is loyal to obito. so what happens when itachi tells kisame, oh, I want to go and find tobi. they find him, and all of a sudden itachi starts trying to kill tobi. tobi reveals that he is actually "madara" to kisame, and kisame immediately understands that itachi has to go if he is trying to kill "madara". then suddenly, itachi has to fight both kisame and obito, which is not a good matchup for itachi. Obito was clearly cautious of itachi, the manga made that clear. when itachi was about to die, the akatsuki still consisted of pain, konan, and kisame. obito could simply run away while having kamui turned on and retreat to the rain village, where he can inform nagato that itachi is a traitor. what then? Itachi literally has to defect from the akatsuki, defeating the whole purpose of his mission.

@drawingblank except itachi already defeated nagato with low difficulty. nagato can't react to totsuka when itachi gets serious, period. Obito would get clone feinted by an exploding shadow clone as obito materializes, and the blade finishes him off. obito would be a tough battle, but itachi can pull it off with high difficulty, depending on which obito we are talking. With kisame by his side, itachi's terminal illness is irrelevant. Samehada is shown to give stamina to people, Kisame could convince it to lend itachi chakra. samehada is not opposed to giving people other than kisame chakra, as we have seen in the canon. and sorry, nagato also isn't "decrypting" tsyukyomi either.