Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20150410212019/@comment-142748-20150411192137

Rachin123 wrote: While they did control Yagura, a Perfect Jinchūriki and Itachi couldn't subdue Killer B with genjutsu the same way, this could be for the fact that Killer B is better than Yagura. That's like saying all jinchūriki are all the same (in a way yes but in general). Being a perfect jinchūriki is no different. Also no one else tried to control Kurama with genjutsu even from the Uchiha as far as we are concerned so that statement is unneeded. Itachi also never wanted to control someone, I mean in a way he did without genjutsu. Itachi would place the person in genjutsu to subdue them. There's a difference of putting a genjutsu on someone to completely control them although Itachi has done that but to a common female but has shown to at least use genjutsu in a way of controlling a person. Either way, how do this have anything to with Itachi vs Hashirama? Its not like Hashirama was known for his genjutsu so going out and trying to compare Itachi's genjutsu prowess with others is unneeded. You're making some suppositions here. Yagura and Killer B's level of control over Isobu and Gyuki should be the same. Itachi's attempt to genjutsu Killer B failed, while Madara's and Obito's succeeded on Yagura. Not only that, Ao said the genjutsu used on Yagura was comparable in strength to Kotoamatsukami without it being that. And controlling Kurama is a big feat, it means that other Uchiha have tried and failed. The fact only three Uchiha achieved being able to control him is a big one.

This has to do with Hashirama vs Itachi since Hashirama has experience fighting stronger Uchiha than Itachi without Sage Mode and with better genjutsu feats. If he wasn't susceptible to them, why should he be susceptible to Itachi?