Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160405070243/@comment-26773508-20160502132107

Prodigy hero wrote: The Gokage take this, they have too many deciding factors for them. Ei's speed will overwhelm Hashirama. Lava, boil, and dust release for the gokage. He will also have a tough time dealing with Gaara's sand manipulation. Ay's speed isn't overwhelming Hashirama when he's healing constantly. Not to forget that his Sage Mode is vastly superior to Jiraiya and Naruto's. So he has enhanced perception and reflexes. Ay charges towards Hashirama. Hashi's enhanced perception will allow Hashi to either dodge the attack or simply place a Wood Clone. Or he just tanks the attack, trapping Ay in the chakra-draining woods in the process. If he dodges, Ay still gets caught in the wood. Hashi can create wood from the ground. So it doesn't matter how fast Ay is moving if Hashi is creating wood from the ground throughout Ay's path.

Mei's boil release isn't going to do anything. Her boil release has the fatal disadvantage of affecting everyone in its range, allies included. Not to mention she needs a small, sealed space for her boil release to have enough acidity to melt the Susanoo. That shit simply isn't going to work in an open field. Even if Mei somehow managed to make the vapor really acidic out in the open, the Gokage will be harmed along with Hashirama. The difference is that Hashirama can heal while the Gokage cannot, with the exception of Tsunade.

Mei's Lava release isn't going to do much either. Hashi has the luxury to spam forests after forests. Mei can spam Lava release only so much.

Also, Tsunade had no idea how powerful Hashi and Madara actually were. She may know the basics of some of his techniques, but she was completely unaware of the scale of the techniques. So her knowledge won't mean much in the actual battle. Also, once Hashi finds out that Tsunade can heal with her Strength of a Hundred Seals, he can simply do what Edo Madara did and slice that bitch from the waist down. Hashi won't have a difficult time doing that.

The only threat here is Onoki, and to a far lesser extent Gaara. The reason is not because Gaara is going to use his "sand to move them about, pull them out of danger or putting them into superior positions", it's because Gaara can fly on his sand. Same goes for Onoki. Their ability to fly makes the fight a little bit harder for Hashirama. But there's no way Gaara is just going to keep on relocating the Kages to favourable positions. He might do it once. At most, he might do it twice. After that, Hashi is going to make sure Gaara's efforts are hindered.

Gaara himself can be taken down even in flight, as creating gigantic wood structures and forests spanning a huge area is Hashi's everyday job description. We've seen how massive and how tall these wood structures can be. So Gaara and Onoki can be easily intercepted mid-air. If Gaara is trapped, its over for him unless others come to his aid. Onoki, on the other hand, has a few more cards on his table.

Onoki can use his Dust Release to vapourise a good chunk of Hashi's wood structures and giant forests, but that won't mean squat to someone whose chakra levels are more than that of Kurama. Hashi can simply outlast Onoki and there's nothing Onoki can do about it. Onoki attacks Hashi and his Wood Golem with Dust Release? No problem! Hashi used a Wood Clone to escape. No one except EMS Madara was capable of seeing through that trick.

Onoki charges towards Hashirama's Wood Golem and that nasty thousand-armed Buddha? Massive wood branches branch out of the Wood Golem and surrounding areas to intercept Onoki. And as seen in Part 1, a weak Edo Hashirama would have slaughtered Hiruzen by crushing him with his Wood structures, had it not been for Enma's rescue. So Onoki will either get crushed, or he'll use the Boulder Lightening Jutsu to turn the wood into sponges. I'll bet the latter, which is why Onoki makes for a far more dangerous opponent than the other Kages.

So Onoki breaks free with his lightening the objects no jutsu and charges at Hashi again. He either uses Dust Release again or he gets intercepted mid-air, again. Hashirama's Wood structures take some damage, but Hashi just spams those things again. Meanwhile, getting intercepted and using Dust Release again and again is simply going to wear Onoki out. Not to mention the fact that every time he's intercepted and caught, the wood drains his chakra little by little. Onoki is simply going to tire out, if not crushed by Hashi's wood like the other Kage.