Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-6769189-20180903160816

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

You can’t say Naruto is in base if he’s in rsm that’s a contradiction. SPSM isnt signified by the cloak. The cloak is an extension of SPSM. The eyes the yellow cross pattern eyes signify SPSM.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Second his level of power increasing as madara noticed debunks him being in rsm. No it doesnt it just means he hadnt figured out exactly what the power up was until then.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Fithly, yes rikudo senjutsu and rikudo sage mode are different, that doesn’t change the fact that the sage mode requires the presence of the senjutsu. No SPSM is a form of SP Senjutsu. The only difference between the form used by Obito/Madara and Naruto was the method used to get there and how they look.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Naruto waited, he didn’t immediately enter rsm, he waited. Why? Because his level of rikudo senjutsu was not enough to maintain rsm. Your assumption.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Madara a d obito had the entire biju inside them, they had plenty of juubi chakra, where as Naruto was just able to make enough to last for his next 2 major fights. Naruto never mixed the chakras within himself all 9 Bijuu chakras remained as seperate entities.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Lastly, hagoromo himself, the same man than handed Naruto rsm, he specifially took notice to Naruto having each biju chakra inside him. Knowing this, he then gives him rsm. Why? Because not only is he worthy of it, but with the chakra from each biju he can create the necessary chakra to use it. Hagoromo was going to give him power either way.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

So if hagoromo acknowldge the biju as a requirement why isn’t this site? You are free to fact check anything stated. I’m sure it’s all there(in above posts), just don’t deny the evidence when it’s provided. He didnt. He acknowledged that Naruto was that Naruto was the boy of prophacy because he made friend with the Bijuu and that he had the desire to protect others. Hagoromo never said he could recieve any power BECAUSE of the Bijuu's presence. Neither did the databook.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Being a juubi jinchuriki doesn’t make you a rikudo sage, madara nor obito are sages. That specific sagehood is given by hagoromo, but this in now way changes the fact that being a juubi jinchuriki is a necessary step to enter rsm. So while they didn’t get a meeting with hagoromo to receive the mode it self, they aquired the power needed to enter rsm. Which is also what Naruto did, he acquired the power to enter rsm by having all 9 biju. This is acknowledged in manga by gyuki shukaku kurama and hagoromo himself. Being able to use senjutsu chakra makes one a Sage. Senjutsu literally translates to Sage technique.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Firstly, kaguya became the juubi long after her children were into adulthood. They were each given significant amount of kaguya’ power at birth. This isnt literal. They received chakra from her but they never depleted/divided her own supply of chakra. Giving birth has never reduced the parents chakra supply. Ever.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

This is mainly why she went on the rampage she did, to get that lost chakra back. Even during her war arc revival she was scouting Sasuke and Naruto for their(her) chakra. She never regained that lost power. She was still weakened throughout the war arc because no of this. She rampaged because she was selfish and paranoid.

She was weakened because she was missing portions of each Bijuu, her actual chakra pool.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Now as for you claim that they didn’t need her chakra to achieved rikudo senjutsu, you can’t prove that. It’s a fair guess, but it’ll only be that. You won’t go into detail as to how they achieved it simply because you don’t know, much like the rest of us regarding the rikudo seals. Like I said earlier if you can prove it, it can’t and won’t take away from my point. Because they didnt have Juubi chakra. The Juubi was a seperate entity from them and they cant take chakra from the Juubi. The Juubi absorbs all energy it comes into contact with, so they couldnt steal its chakra and it wouldnt give its chakra to to them. If the series doesnt tell us a certain event happened it didnt happen, and the series doesnt tell us they had juubi chakra prior to sealing the Juubi.

The databook gives some info on the 6 Paths seals and none of it involves extranious healing abilities or any of the other feats you attribute to them.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

You don’t always have to be a jinchuriki to achieve the power of a jinchuriki. Naruto is proof of that since he handed out kurama cloaks and since he achieved rikudo senjutsu, the juubi’ chakra, without the physical juubi being inside him. Except he didnt have or make juubi chakra

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

More importantly six paths of obito solidifies this. He gather previous jinchuriki and siphoned their former biju’ power back into them. He didnt siphon them he released the Bijuu from Gedo and resealed them in their former Jinchuriki.

Obito hadnt begun resurrecting the juubi while he had his 6PoP. It wasnt until after the Edo was released that he resealed them in the Juubi and began the revival process.

@Starscream: Edo Madara didnt have true Rinnegan. At least 1 is necessary to truly control and contain the Juubi.