Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-24824859-20160721034216

@8Gates Not only is your argument piss-poor, but now you continue to insult like a child? Also, the pot calls the kettle black The problem here is that you don't even know what context is, but that's what I get for dealing with an illiterate.

Naruto not moving his feet against Shin isn't context. The problem is here is that you deliberately ignore what really happens(aka, context) in your so called evidence. Your superiority complex isn't wanted It's exactly what happened, which is exactly what context is. You claimed that Naruto wasn't able to blitz Shin, despite the fact that he didn't even move a muscle because he wasn't taking the situation seriously This is getting ridiculous. A flashbang's explosion isn't supposed to damage anything.

You're wasting my time. What you're saying here bar the ridiculous flashbang comparison isn't wrong, but you can't explain how it applies to this situation and you don't have any evidence of why it would. The purpose of a flash bang is completely irrelevant You're only going of the sizes of the explosion, which, like I said, doesn't always determine the power. A shame that Sasuke can't do any of the above to him. A shame that facts from the manga say otherwise The only difference between Rinnegan Sasuke & Ems Sasuke is that one has the Rinnegan while the other doesn't. Not sure how "weaker Sasuke" even applies here when that's the only difference that the manga has shown between them.

Both Sasuke and Gai being called fast doesn't mean that they are on par. That's a ridiculous fallacy that isn't even worth my time to address.

Sasuke is easily dodged by blind Madara & rushed down by Obito. Gai can easily ragdoll Madara as a Ten Tails' jinchuriki in cqc.

Amenotejikara doesn't increase Sasuke's physical movement speed and it being more effective than 8th Gate Gai at landing hits is a joke when Sasuke couldn't hit Kinshiki with it even when he had no knowledge while Kurotsuchi's surprise attack hit him. If Sasuke didn't get a power and speed boost, then tell me how he was able to catch up to a TTJ-Madara, able to stand after getting his chakra absorbed by Kaguya for a while, and able to travel to Kaguya's dimensions(though this was when he became an adult) Being complimented for the same thing by the same person would make the praised roughly on par with each other in said thing, unless it's specified who's superior. Madara has a standard for what he would consider fast and if Sasuke and Guy are within that standard that it can be assumed that they are somewhat on par. Ameno is teleportation. Any form of teleportation easily exceeds any form of speed(unless you're the Flash). Sasuke only used Ameno while, fighting Kinshiki, once. That was when they fought on Kaguya's snowy dimension. He never used Ameno on Kinsiki again Ten Tails' jinchuriki Obito is massively superior to Sasuke in all categories which was already blatantly shown when he was about to disintegrate him before Minato saved him.

What Obito did to the Hokage's wasn't even a blitz. He simply rushed at them with an attack that they had no ability to put up a guard against in cqc.

Tobirama tagged Obito with multiple explosive tags and a Hiraishin seal before Obito even made contact with his body & Hiruzen mostly dodged his rush outside of getting hit in the shoulder. Yeah, against a clearly weaker Sasuke. '"What Obito did to the Hokage's wasn't even a blitz. He simply rushed at them with an attack that they had no ability to put up a guard against in cqc". ' And apparently I'm the illiterate one Tobirama tagged Juubito after he was blitz. Hiruzen still got his torso exploded before he was able to do anything What does this have to do with his speed?

He had no stated or implied reason to move at a pace where Shin could react to him and you would be an idiot to claim otherwise. Sasuke clearly didn't go at Shin at full speed? Do you know how to read? There's no reason to believe that Sasuke would be using full speed, when he doesn't need to Naruto moved in terms of using his chakra arm. Naruto not going out only means that he won't try to nuke Shin off the planet, not that he is going to deliberately move slower than he usually does.

When Madara was fully recovered and Naruto tried to flank him, Madara simply knocked him away with Limbo.

Madara's meteors are only as wide as the Shinju's trunk, which is a mere fraction of the crater formed by Naruto & Bee's combined Bijudama in diameter, so dwarfing Shinsuusenju is obvious nonsense.

Not that it matters though since the statue is literally hundreds of times more durable than the simple rock that comprises CT.

VOTE's explosion did nothing to the statue and that explosion dwarfs Naruto's Bijudama Rasenshuriken multiple times over.

1. Naruto can't produce enough Bijudama Rasenshuriken to replicate what Madara did.

2. The destructive capability of Naruto's Bijudama Rasenshuriken is insignificant compared to VOTE's explosion. Using chakra arms is not the same as moving. Same with Sasuke, there's no reason for Naruto to be going at the Shins with full speed Ok and? Would you actually try to prove your ridiculous claims? Shinsuusenju didn't tank the VOTE's explosion. All it did was throw a thousand punches which all of them were destroyed by Madara's Evil Disturbance Waltz spam. TBB Rasenshuriken doesn't need to explode in order to destroy Shinsuusenju, just like how Madara's didn't. With its multiple variant, it easily shreds it apart @AsianReaper Can you give this guy another forum warning?