Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181124201321

1) You aren't even reading my points critically. Itachi didn't use the water wall for his clone, that was kakashi. Itachi's clone didn't appear until several panels after that, so I accept your concession. The timing is off because if itachi made his move during the water wall, asuma and kurenai would have seen itachi behind kakashi and would have said something. Instead, itachi and kakashi give their assessments of each other over the course of 3 panels, and THEN itachi appears behind kakashi stabbing him in the back.

2)Yes you did. In fact you are saying it again too. Itachi didn't use totsuka blade as an opener because he wasn't trying to kill sasuke. So I accept your concession. He tried to kill orochimaru and used the blade immediately, period. Lol no, plot is a valid counter when it's clear plot elements are driving the character's actions. This isn't a perfect manga, kishimoto makes mistakes. Itachi naruto and bee were focusing on shisui/kotoamatsukami so they forgot about nagato. And Like I said, even without my "plot excuse", itachi probably thought amaterasu could incapacitate an edo tensei. But now he knows it doesn't, so then used totsuka blade against nagato as soon as he had no inhibitions, period.

3) I accept your concession here as well. even if rock lee himself can't react it means nothing. Rock lee is slower than kakashi, and he is slower than itachi. So rock lee being unable to counter it has no relevance to itachi.