Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-44437908-20200507051002/@comment-6769189-20200508100817

I say holy double standards because most of, if not all of the stuff you complain about Naruto for, Sasuke is guilty of but you hype him

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Naruto from start of the series did nothing on his own without borrowing kurama's chakara. Many other characters didnt achieve a lot with their own natural abilities or borrowed powers. Sasuke being one of the biggest offenders but you hype him to the moon.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He fought haku and defeated her with kyubi, Haku is a boy

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Gaara with kyubi And Gaara was using Shukkaku. Mind you, Sasuke lost to a weaker Gaara even though Sasuke was using Curse Mark.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

And pain too, Pain was using Madara's eyes and 6 bodies

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

he defeated kaguya with kcm even though he had spsm. He used SPSM and a cloak of all 9 Bijuu's chakra

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

While we have other character sasuke who has sharingan and naruto nothing special except plot no jutsu and talk no jutsu. Sasuke spent half the series using Orochimaru's Curse Seal, borrowing Senjutsu chakra from him. Then he got an amp from absorbing Orochimaru. After losing those things he used Itachi's eyes to make himself stronger and still wasnt as strong as Naruto.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

kishimoto developed uchiha characters most, like all the series was about uchiha. He developed Naruto, Kakashi, and a Sakura a bit. The Uchiha played a large role but it wasnt all about them. You just werent paying attention

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

orochimaru wanted sharingan. And all of the Akatsuki wanted Naruto because of the Kyuubi.

Madara wanted Naruto because of the Kyuubi.

Black Zetsu wanted Naruto because of the Kyuubi

Momoshiki and Kinshiki wanted Naruto because of the Kyuubi

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

When orochimaru gets defeated, we get obito then madara and is all about uchiha. Both of whom were trying to capture Naruto for the Kyuubi. They literally started a World War over Naruto.

They were the main villains. I would certainly hope we got a lot of stuff relevent to them

You ignore all the backstory we got for the Senju, Hagoromo, the Bijuu, and the Otsutsuki etc etc.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

One character who was strong in my opinion was hashirama who just died and we know nothing about it, Read the last 2 arcs

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

kishimoto made hashicells more preferred than naruto. So what? Hashirama cells didnt help win the war. Hashirama cells didnt beat Kaguya. Hashirama cells didnt teleport the entire army. Hashirama cells didnt power up the entire army

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Naruto had the best character development but without kyubi he is nothing even ashura defeated his brother without kyubi. We were never shown their conflict we dont know what power be used.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Naruto doesn't have kekkei genkai even though kushina had it karin also has it but naruto doesn't. Not a Kekkei Genkai

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Kishimoto never gave naruto new jutsu all he did was use rasengan which his father developed and made rasenshuriken nothing more. We know no new jutsu of naruto besides summuing jutsu, rasengan, rasenshuriken varient and shadow clones. So he didnt get new Jutsu except: *Rasengan Not to mention all the unique and unorthodox ways he uses these abilities
 * Wind Release Rasengan
 * Magnet Release Rasengan
 * Planetary Rasengan
 * Tailed Beast Rasengan
 * Rasengan Flash
 * Rasenshuriken
 * Lava Release Rasenshuriken
 * Sage Mode
 * Frog Kata
 * Mini Rasenshuriken
 * Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken
 * SPSM
 * 6 Paths Ultra Big Ball Rasenshuriken
 * Super Mini Bijuudama
 * Bijuudama

You want to hype Sasuke but all he does is Chidori and some varients and Amaterasu and some varients

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He gets 3 kekkei genkai but with tailed beast. Sasuke would be blind without Itachi's eyes.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

If kishimoto wanted uchiha so much he should have done series on sasuke He can make a story about 2 characters

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

making naruto main character in action anime is bad move as per my opinion. Making him the main character was a bad move because he learned techniques and gained strength through camaraderie and friendship? Dude the whole point of his character is hard work and togetherness.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Yes naruto befriended kyubi he uses his chakra with precise control but still he should be stronger Why? Because you say so? He was stronger than Hashirama in the war arc.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

but, sasuke was strong even though both got powers from hagoromo. Sasuke was not on par with Naruto until he got Hagoromo upgrades.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Naruto could not defeat him without kyubi powers. Sasuke couldnt fight on equal terms with Naruto without using Chakra from all 9 Bijuu. You should reread the last 10 Naruto chapters. Dont forget, Naruto was fighting with Kaguya for an extended period of time. Not Sasuke.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

As a ashura reincarnate naruto should have been more powerful hashirama was strongest. Naruto was stronger than Hashirama. Reread the War Arc

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

But still he is my fav character because of his hardships and pure heart So he is your favorite because of his hardships and heart but a bad main character? So the main character shouldnt have hardships or have a pure heart?