Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26090777-20150220033950/@comment-26302001-20150228160451

Kishi has at the least, confirmed that Hiruzen in his prime was stronger than Tobirama and according to Kishi and DB4.. Madara, Izuna and Tobirama were equals. So that means that at best Hiruzen would of tied with Hashirama and at worst he would barely lose to him. You must also remember that Hashi and Tobirama trained Hiruzen from the time he was 8yrs old onward, they trained him to be STRONGER than them and a better Hokage, since they were grooming him for that position, he was predetermined to have that position by Hashirama and Tobirama and its kind of effed up lol... Uchiha's still getting the short stick.