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Chapter question
Hi there :D

would you know what manga chapter does all the tailed beasts gather with the sage of the six paths in the center? Thanks!--Shikamaru Swag (talk) 23:48, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Tobirama and body flicker references
「四代目貴様ワシ以上の瞬身使いよの」

"Yondaime, kisama washi ijō no shunshinzukai yo no"

"Fourth, you're more of a Body Flicker user than me"

and

「影分身で瞬身の術・・・ 奴にマーキングしていたのか」

"Kage Bunshin de Shunshin no Jutsu... Yatsu ni mākingushiteiru no ka"

"A Body Flicker Technique with a Shadow Clone... he had that guy marked?" Seelentau 愛議 15:59, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Volume 65 tankōbon images
Hi Cerez-san and how are you? Could you upload the tankōbon version of the following images, seems you forgot them at all: Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:06, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Madara awakens his sharingan.png
 * File:Sasuke's Decision.png
 * File:Tajima Uchiha2.png
 * File:Flying Thunder God Slash.png

Hey what's up? Hope you're doing good. Sorry but if you have time, could you upload the tankōbon version of this image? Seems I forgot to add it at that time. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 16:34, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

...could you have looked at the talk page
We shouldn't list users of full Tailed Beast Mode who had outside help to do so to achieve that state, nor should we list them as users when the beast itself is in control. Its not 'nitpicking' so please don't revert until you notice these things, Cerez. There is no way that Roshi, Han, Utakata, nor Fu should be listed as users of the Tailed Beast Mode form since Obito Uchiha instigated their transformations and controlled them.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:45, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Kagutsuchi
We know there's no Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi without Amaterasu, as the former's used to manipulate the flames created by the latter. When they're used in conjunction, like towards the end of Chapter 633, there's no sign of blood dripping from Sasuke's left eye. And of course, he similarly avoids that reaction by using his Susanoo's orb of black flames.

If you don't feel comfortable with it, I'll leave it be. Just explaining my case. —SaiST Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg「talk 13:03, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Article filling
Hi Cerez-san. Could you fill the article about this filler character Ubau. At least write the appearance section and if possible, you could revise the storyline if you have watched that episode. Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 15:19, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL xD ... You made my day, I thought you have already watched this episode when it released before two years I think. Seems that you hate the fillers most than ever by watching that episode. Don't worry, I won't ask you again then ;) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 21:16, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Translation clarification
Wow, those are old issues, huh? Anyway, I've access to every Japanese volume, so you don't need to bother with the raws :) Let's see:


 * 「守鶴と呼ばれ茶釜の中に封印されていた 砂隠れの老僧の生き霊だ」
 * "Shukaku to yobare chagama no naka ni fūinsarete ita. Sunagakure no rōsō no ikiryō da"
 * "Called Shukaku and sealed in a tea kettle. The living spirit of an old priest of the Sand."

and
 * 「うちは一族も元をたどれば日向一族にその源流があると言われている ”百眼”ってのは日向家の受け継いできた血継限界の一つで写輪眼に似た瞳術だが... 洞察眼の能力だけなら... 写輪眼をもしのぐ代物だ」
 * "Uchiha Ichizoku mo moto o tadoreba Hyūga Ichizoku ni sono genryū ga aru to iwarete iru. 'Byakugan'tte no wa Hyūga-ke no uke tsuidekita Kekkei Genkai no hitotsu de Sharingan ni nita dōjutsu da ga... Dōsatsugan no nōryoku dakenara... Sharingan o mo shinogu shiromono da."
 * "It's said that if you follow the Uchiha Clan further to its origins, it would be (where) the Hyūga Clan (is located... or so). The "Byakugan", one of the Hyūga house's Kekkei Genkai passed on by inheritance, is similar to the Sharingan - a Dōjutsu. Only when it comes to the power of insight... these are goods that even surpass the Sharingan."

That's all :) Seelentau 愛議 21:53, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 627; Tank version
Yo Cerez, it has been some time. I hope you're still not mad at me because of that time :3 Anyways, have anyone translated the different pages that've been published in the Tankobon version of chapter 627 (talking about this and this, that seemingly replaced this)? Though I imagine those are just some random Itachi's quotes, they could be an inner monologue of Sasuke... But who knows Abe 22:21,7/8/2013

It seems you forgot about this, but oh well :D Thanks for the answer, I guessed that it wasn't something big. Abe 22:48,7/8/2013

Re: Mods Group
Hey, I know you left conditioned support for the Protect Page Rights proposal, but it seems that can't happen because it would give the unprotect right with it, so wondering if you support this new proposal which makes more sense ? :) --Speysider Talk Page 14:24, July 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Awesome! :) --Speysider Talk Page 14:40, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Update Naruto's page
No one has updated the section of the Ten Tails Revival Arc in Naruto's page. It has not been updated to account for Chapters 637 and 638. Can someone update that; I am not that good at adding new info, only correcting grammar and spelling. Thanks. --Senjuto 19:06, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Madara edits
Hello sempai...i've noted your reversal of my edits to Madara. Here's my justification to them...

Part 1 - Weapon skills: Madara, specifically in the use of his gunbai, has shown a superior and more diversified use in it than Obito...his use of the weapon was one part melee combat and the other technique use, which he has used more of the latter than other weapon users, and i made my edits reflect that.

Part 2 - Edo Tensei: Madara was the first in the series to note the kamikaze nature of the Edo Tensei and how to use it to his advantage, long before The Second made that same mention/use in the most recent chapter. If one's body is changed in a way that betters one's abilities or gives them the chance to use something they would ordinarily be unable to, that counts as a modification/improvement. If Madara wasn't an Edo Tensei, he wouldn't have been able to bring the giant meteor from the sky as he would have killed himself along with everyone else. And so far only Madara and Tobirama have made use of the unique fighting style of the Edo Tensei, so that does deserve a mention.

Part 3 - The rods: It was shown and stated Madara was the maker of the rods, we saw it emerge from Hashi's clone body, from Obito and from the Statue...either way as the maker of them, Madara was the only one who not only could have placed them there, but the one who mainly benefitted from it, so i fail to see the speculation there.

This only to justify my adamant support over the recent work i did and to show i did not put that there willy-nilly, but that i worked on it. Have a good day (or night depending on your time zone xD) Darksusanoo (talk) 22:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Really sempai? Your reply looks like you've only read half the stuff i wrote! First off, if his ability with the weapon is more diverisfied then it has to be noted. Madara: Melee and techniques. My edit only noted that Madara's use envolved both.

Also...so what if it's a state and not his own ability? It has everything to do with him...its his new body, it doesn't matter how or where it came from, only what he does with it! It improved his fighting ability, if it needed any more, allowed him to do things he would otherwise be unable to. And he's one of the only two guys who actually knows how to work with it in full and was the first to actually show it. If one deserves such a mention, so does the other.

Lastly...really sempai? You're nitpicking that much? After seeing the whole rod and Obito control and Black Zetsu creation and Yin-Yang situation and Madara's hand in all that and you're still trying to deny that is Madara's own technique? Darksusanoo (talk) 23:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Removing pics
Why are you removing the pictures I uploaded? I have already asked on the main page ([]), If it was alright to edit those and I was given permission. If you had something against it you should have wrote it there, so we could discuss it. --Kasan94 (talk) 11:32, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can see why with Neji and Tenten then, but I personily think anime pics are better. But dosn't really matter much. --Kasan94 (talk) 18:53, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Third Raikage edit
While I do not disagree that it is a possibility that there were "bad blood between them" I can't recall that there is any cannon source that supports this assumption (in order to do so I'm aware that 3 shinobi world wars would have to be ignored, but that still seems to be more on a professional level rather than personal and it does not appear that he proffessed any ill will towards the other kage present), wouldn't that make it speculation like my previous removed comment?

To me it seems like the third raikage could enjoy figthing skilled opponents even while he didn't want to harm shinobi from his own village or fight others against his will.

If you believe I'm wrong or othervise disagree, please let me know.

On another note: who is "captain awesome"? the second Mizukage? I'm not entirely familiar with the term. --Tzao (talk) 15:46, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for answering so swiftly, I'll try to avoid commenting on such points in the future, but it seemed like a viable point to me at the time.

In regards to the "nicknames": I'm really quite surprised that fans actually call the kage that, I'll assume it's just because they doesn't have canon names yet, hopefully that trend will pass in time.... Sprinkles?!?--Tzao (talk) 18:58, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Akatsuchi
sorry about the akatsuchi page won't happen again.--

theres like no page that hasnt been created so adding on to others articles seemed like the first thing to do--Slasher p72 (talk) 20:04, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Wood Release
well. it won;t hurt the article well at least add these 2 things please, which is pretty unclear, and discussed about it on NarutoBase

-the earth-water ratio is equal in wood -wood could be created out of the water (Khallil123 (talk) 05:01, July 24, 2013 (UTC))

Images request
Hi Cerez-san. If you have a time, could you upload the tankōban version of the following images: Thanks so much. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 21:12, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Kabuto releases Edo Tensei.png
 * File:Sharingan connection.png
 * File:Five Kage defeated.png
 * File:Naruto and SAF.png
 * You're awesome as ever, Hontō ni Arigatō ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 09:43, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Done ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 10:28, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Minato Namikaze
Is it a problem if minato jinchuuriki transformation page and the main page join cause i think is unnecessary having to pages that have the same topic.--Inter kid (talk) 23:10, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Can You Look At
Can you please take a look at the Six Paths Technique's talk page: It's About Time, and comment please.
 * Thanks in Advance. Senju_Symbol.svgKotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 15:13, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at the forum please. Forum:Madara_and_Obito_Six_Paths_Jutsu_Debate. KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 15:41, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Tobirama...
Is the damn boss. Both Naruto and Minato are fools. Naruto again has gone full retard as Sasuke arrived and Minato's super whatever technique getting overhyped for the third time without any results... blond hair. For Kishi, he has his ups and downs, the chapter was good, but the ending? There's no reason for them to smile, dude has Preta Path. Basically, they haven't progressed much at all... other than marking Obito in previous chapter. All attacks against him are futile, so why even bother? Obito isn't even using his Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan, he is playing around like Madara :D But it's getting tedious for sure, I and many others are tired of the war... this is why I hate stories with such a situation where the villain is almost unbeatable and could wipe the protagonists in an instant, had the author decided to write it that way of course, because letting yourself be defeated (aka. plot no jutsu) is a standard. How about throwing another meteor on them? Oh wait, we wouldn't get a happy ending if there were to be logic present ._. --Elveonora (talk) 13:18, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

That's right, but "rules of the author" device is getting predictable and cliche. Anyway, what would really be an interesting show to watch is 2nd Hokage vs 2nd Mizukage, I'd even pay Kishi for that lol. Once the main Naruto manga is over, I wish he would make these mini-stories on fans' demand from time to time or something. For Minato, I think he is intelligent and a prodigy and stuff, but he appears to have some mental disorders on top of that. His speech pattern is quite unique. Also what I call BS is that Kishi is yet to have Minato's QB chakra mode be of good use, it's really "just because" so far.--Elveonora (talk) 19:21, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

In presence of our blond hero, everyone is getting dumb... perhaps it's the so long suspected kekkei genkai of his. Sasuke just crapped his pants, the Susanoo was meant to be his last effort before making a visit to Itachi. It kinda made me recall of the Deidara scene where he deepthroated Manda to escape the kaboom. I guess in this case there was no time to summon his snake girlfriend Aoda and teleport away. Whatever the case, Obito could easily be defeated. Steps:
 * 1) summoning Shima&Fukasaku and having them use opera no genjutsu (Obito ain't immune to sound based ones)
 * 2) as Orochimaru arrives, him ripping out Obito's eyes and then using Fushi Tensei on him
 * 3) placing control talisman into Madara's undead skull
 * 4) cancelling Edo Tensei, getting rid of 4 Hokages
 * 5) couldn't be more awesome, but no, Kishi wrote him out of villains list for teh lulz--Elveonora (talk) 20:03, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Tobirama and Edo Tensei
Sempai, your standart for refusing the Edo Tensei section for Tobirama doesn't make a lick of sense. Minato made the Rasengan...he has a section devoted to this technique despite the fact that he only showed the regular version so far. Orochimaru and Kabuto have sections (true their use is much more extensive). Tobirama's section refers to techniques developed for and around the workings of the Edo Tensei...he was the one who made the technique aswell...he laid a large amount of ground work around that technique, soo i fail to see your refusal. Darksusanoo (talk) 00:13, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Its a matter of consistancy (did i spell that right?)...by that standart, we should remove Minato and Naruto's Rasengan section and Naruto's Shadow Clone section. The name was wrong because it implies more than one technique...which enthralls awhole new can of worms...the section you wanted to place under that name only related to things made from and for the Edo Tensei...if you wanted to add that name, you'd also have to add the Flying Thunder God section since it was also made by him. Also the difference between the Edo Tensei and the other techniques you mentioned is that the Edo Tensei is a highly complex, multipurpose technique (hence why everyone who uses it, gets a small wall of text to it). Darksusanoo (talk) 00:38, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Rasengan edit
You don't have to act like a child, I missed the page where it showed Naruto in Sage Mode. Good on you for catching that.

wait;
So you think those obviously robotic abilities of Asura were abilities of Asura Path, rather than actual modification? I'm not talking about arms, which obviously are the former, but no guts and brain. That kinda suggests the user temporary turns himself into a machine when used. I thought you would merge it with Asura Path (character) rather than Asura Path--Elveonora (talk) 17:22, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

I take it that the only natural ability of Preta Path is the mechanical armor with extra arms. Actual inner mechanism like jets, blades and laser head were modifications by Nagato to the corpse. That's at least the way I comprehend it. I find it unlikely that Nagato could open his head to reveal he is a robot while using it and shi*--Elveonora (talk) 19:51, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re-reading the chapter, his human arm stayed normal. It was one of the extra ones which turned into cannon--Elveonora (talk) 17:42, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

need help from a color expert
How would you define this or this? I'd call it "peach caramel" I really can't tell exactly T_T--Elveonora (talk) 19:23, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ha! Still thanks, willingness values. Thought maroon was your work tho :) --Elveonora (talk) 09:45, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

moon eye plan/infinite tsukuyomi update
Can you please add/change stuff accordingly to road to ninja talk page? Thanks. And yes, I'm capable enough of doing so myself, but I like your wording better.--Elveonora (talk) 12:22, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

No worries, already working on it myself. But you are welcome to give feedback on an upcoming related topic, once I make it of course :D--Elveonora (talk) 19:52, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 643 Warning?
If this comes back as negative, seeing as we might get pelted by people trying to put up chapter 643 information, should we put up a warning telling everyone that we're waiting on better quality scans? Joshbl 56  15:40, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe not a site-wide message (just look at the backlash from having a simple message about a possible problem) but something on the front page or have pop up when creating a new article? Joshbl  56  16:04, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Request
Hi Cerez and what's up? I'm messaging you since I'd like to ask if you could remove the multiple references to a completely redundant template on multiple articles. The template is Template:W and the list of pages using that template is here: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:W. Many thanks if you are able to do this :) --Speysider Talk Page 19:59, August 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * The template serves to increase "lazy editing" by making people not type out the proper syntax. It's bad to use tons of templates, especially if some of those templates can be achieved without even needing it. Templates are designed to be used for things that are fairly complex and can't be added literally into the page (eg infoboxes, policy notices): templates are not designed to be used so people don't have to use wiki syntax and is generally a waste of time. I hope that is clearer. --Speysider Talk Page 20:16, August 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * "lazy editing" means "to create or use templates which are intended to bypass use of the intended syntax". In other words, it just shows that people are incapable of using the basic syntax of a wiki. I will, however, ask for more opinions on this matter, as I don't see the reasoning for adding virtually redundant templates that don't need to be templates. --Speysider Talk Page 20:31, August 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Simant just posted an example on my talkpage, which should convince you that the template is pointless. --Speysider Talk Page 21:04, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * A more efficient and convinient way is to just add a custom edit button (like for the macrons, ref...) to the toolbar.  ~ Ultimate  Supreme  02:20, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I added it to the more+ in the toolbar. ~ Ultimate  Supreme  02:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Bump. Since Simant has shown there's a simple way to do it and UltiSup's added the wiki markup to link to wikipedia to the editing toolbar, would be good to hear whether your stance has changed. --Speysider Talk Page 20:54, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Wood Release
Can you please weigh in here? I know the discussion is long, but skim through it if you can; there are some important points. At this point, we just need some other opinions as the same users keep tossing it back and forth and, so far, everyone has their own opinions of what's going on. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:16, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re:
I wasn't aware that linking was not necessary. Its already linked on most of the articles, I am just doing it to keep consistency within articles. 07:10, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

A personal question
Cerez, if you are on a wiki where you are nothing but a registered user, and you see a mistake, and you correct it. But multiple admins and rollbacks on that site are fans of a character, and would like to keep that mistake because that would make their fav. char. much bigger than he is and that's what they want themselves and others to believe. What would you do then? The wiki is mostly non-biased, and the page of conflict is a decade old article.Undominanthybrid (talk) 13:24, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

I was not referring to Narutopedia, and especialy not you. I know you're a big fan of the Thrid Raikage but that bias never slips into the article. Its the third wiki on my name.Undominanthybrid (talk) 11:36, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Chakra Receiver debate
Would you mind lending your voice to the Origin of the Chakra Receivers debate once more? Ultimate and I agree on some points, and have recently summed them up on the page for you to see; if you get confused we've got some references and whatnot early on in the conversation. Darksusanoo jumped in and jumbled things up a bit, so it might be a tad be difficult to find, but it should all be there. I am interested to hear your opinion on things thus far. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 02:50, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Really misunderstanding what was said.
Hashirama said that Naruto's own chakra was comparable to his own, and then realized Kurama's was added into the mix after. He could sense both. That's what was said. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 08:53, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Except that the manga made it clear it was a mix of both Naruto's and Kurama's chakra which gave the Version 1 cloaks, with the manga making it seem like it was more of Naruto's power than Kurama's considering he could give the cloaks in the first place while Kurama couldn't.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:58, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

What is "quickly understanding and relaying information in regards to their uses" it's not a resume
In short, what I meant with that text: Is that Tobirama is capable of understanding the way another person might use the techniques he created, even when done so extremely creatively, and explain it to others, thus relaying and understanding information rapidly. Looking back, I know it's not the best phrasing or resume, I won't put it, or something similar, back up if it's deemed unnecessary. --Tzao (talk) 09:23, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

re: hash edit chapter 644
I'm with you because there's no other way to interpret what's been explicitly stated. That person for whatever reason thinks Hashirama compared his chakra levels to Naruto's, which is contextually completely wrong. As you said, the sentence was about the volume of chakra he is distributing and don't forget that's Kurama's chakra as stated by Killer B. So tell please this Super whatever bitc* I don't know to ******************--Elveonora (talk) 22:24, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Wood Clone thingy
Hi Cerez, how are you? First of all, I wanted to say thanks for the image for Tobirama's personality section! It's always awesome to see your favourite character's page grow! ;)

However, I also wanted to discuss about Hashirama's wood clone a bit more. I get your argument that the clone itself performed the technique, but I am not fully convinced by it. Hashirama himself never showed the ability go grow branches from his body without performing a hand seal (and the clone could obviously not do that since he lost an arm before). So I see the branches as a further aspect of the Wood clone technique rather than a general skill of Hashirama. Of course, this could only be my opinion, but a discussion about it would be nice! I already tried it here without succes....Norleon (talk) 22:01, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I get that point, but shouldn't that still be noted as well? If the clone can use its body as a medium without performing hand seals, it is something unique to it. Same goes to the water clone technique then. Your opinion?Norleon (talk) 17:35, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Shadow Clone Updates
Sorry, I didn't realize B-rank equaled Jonin skill. I'll stop changing it. Steveo920 September 2, 2013, 19:22

File move
Yeah, alright. I just changed the name of the file cause I thought it was quite long so I changed it to something shorter. Sorry for the trouble. --SovanDara18 (talk 00:10, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Volume 66's FT
Hi there Cerez! Sorry for disturbing you again, but you're my only acquaintance 'round here ( ._.) Either way, I saw that you've already got your hands on Volume 66; so I must ask, has Kishimoto's Freetalk been translated yet? People are all saying over internet that he's confirming that Naruto's coming to an end. Abe 23:45,9/6/2013

Your Input is Needed
[...] in Tobirama's Talk Page: Worthy of Mention. Thank you!! KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 22:06, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Your Attention
Could you please comment on the Flying Thunder God talkpage: Tobirama v2. KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 18:24, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Madara's Intelligence
Ah! At first i was afraid that you'd maybe have taken off too much. But, now i understand after you explained what you meant. Now that I think about it, it really doesn't contribute to his actual abilites. And yea, I agree, teaching is a 50-50 type situation, both must give equal aptitude. Thank you, Cerez-sama. Where I see it, I too will remove it. ^_^ KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 17:44, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Tsunade's strength
As I have said a hundred times before, A's strength when using his Lightning Release Armour or Tsunade's strength when using her Chakra Enhanced Strength is not a good comparison ratio for actual strength. If a situation occurs when both are using their strength without their techniques, then use that for a comparison of their strength, but otherwise don't speak about it at all, especiamlly just based on Madara's statement. That's my suggestion.Undominanthybrid (talk) 11:04, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

You've gotta be kidding me. The continuous statement that her strength is greater than A's based on Madara's statement when there had been no situation in which they did not use ninjutsu to enhance their strength where their strengths could be compared on a similar scale.Undominanthybrid (talk) 20:13, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry dud for bothering you, but the thing is that many don't see these talk pages any more. Remember what you told me about Naruto's page? that all these old articles are difficult to maintain. I am adding one more. No one bothers to check the talk pages of these old articles.Undominanthybrid (talk) 07:06, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Getjiggywithit user
Can something be done about this person? He/she keeps changing Kotetsu Hagane from a Chunin level Shinobi, to a Chunin level "homosexual". It's annoying as hell. It's been changed multiple times now. EDIT: He's also doing it to Izumo Kamizuki now, adding stuff that is completely stupid. Zelwolf (talk) 03:38, September 15, 2013 (UTC)Zelwolf

Re: Beta Glossary
I surely can (Just c/p works as well). But what exactly you mean by glossary, the parental control? ~ Ultimate  Supreme  18:11, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Something like List of Ninja Clothing's page with links to original article using should work. ~  Ultimate  Supreme  03:11, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Translation request
I would, if you could tell me where I can find that scene. I can't even remember seeing that in the manga at all. o.ô Seelentau 愛議 05:47, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Constant Deletions
Hey Cerez,

Why do keep deleting my changes to the Madara Uchiha page? I only added a picture of the five kages getting defeated by Madara (it was relevant to the description provided in the page).

Also why did you delete my changes in the Koharu/Homura trivia sections? It is relevant since Sasuke has claimed he wants to protect the village but he never mentioned his decision with the village elders?--ElvinWindSword (talk) 15:45, September 24, 2013 (UTC)ElvinWindSword

Well following your logic the fire release great fire annihilation picture under nature transformation should be deleted too since Madara isn't visible in the picture either. --ElvinWindSword (talk) 17:18, September 24, 2013 (UTC)ElvinWindSword

Time Reversal Technique
Cerez, could you answer this question? Obs.: It uses in the episode 213 of Part I. → Rafael Uchiha (talk) 17:35, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ohnoki
He is one of my most favorite characters, grandpa is badass and the strongest living Kage imo. How are you liking him? And don't tell me you don't, otherwise! :-i--Elveonora (talk) 22:09, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Image request
Hi. For your first request, do you mean to change his infobox image to something that shown in the latest episode or changing the latest episode's article image? And for your second request, do you mean the Third Raikage or his son because Mabui said he might be survived as well? Because he has the same bloodline. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 06:54, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wakatta.... I'll upload them ASAP ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 07:08, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done with them. Sorry for my late respond because I was a little busy before now. ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 00:46, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your thinking just like mine exactly, I was about to say it to you, and for me it's more appropriate than the current one and much closer to the manga image.  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 00:54, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:333 Image request
Well, looks like Shakhmoot was faster! ;) Norleon (talk) 09:02, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * He beat me again! ;) Norleon (talk) 21:56, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. I doesn't mean that you would ignore Norleon on the next time, he's doing a great job here unlike me who just sneaking for the orders that he shouldn't deal with them. LOL ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 22:04, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, come one, it's not like my talkpage is a forbidden place to go! :D The only thing that matters is that the image is there. Norleon (talk) 22:13, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right, Norleon ... The image is the matter here. ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 22:17, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Admin
I thought you were an administrator dude. Did they cancel your status?Undominanthybrid (talk) 16:32, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

revision of edits
Last night I made changes to the hokages abilities page but you and someone else reverted the edits but someone else and I undid them so before this starts a war and you thousand edit guys start locking their pages I wanted to know what the reason was despite them being valid. I already wrote on the other guys talkpage and i told him I'm sure this disagreement will be moved to all if not one of the hokages pages to sort it out --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 15:13, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

well first off i meant "you thousand edit guys" it as a a complement being that it is amazing to me that you guys have so many edits but at the same time i meant it as even though you guys have thousands of edits your not neccesarily right about everything. and im not a noob i know what i talk about so thats that.

now to the point. you said suigetsu didnt know anything about the war and while that maybe true he at least knew what was going on and said he this could be good for sasuke since no one really foresaw sasuke's that was change to come. you also said "if the persons article needed to be 'fluffed' these are Kage at that, they have extraordinary feats under their belts already." there is no reason to not add more? if im not mistaken the purpose of the section is to let you know about their abilities. and your acting like if you dont go on Hashirama's page you wont see anything about him still being able to fight Madara despite all of the latters enhancements. was that a fluff or was that a validation/testiment of their skills? which is all im trying to prove that not everything is a fluff it is a validation. and if you still dont believe what im saying go on Tobirama's page. your telling me even though we have seen his abilites all year long and we've seen that the is extrodinay powerful, that the prelude paragraph to his abilities is only 5 lines long but Minato's is 15 lines. (speaking of this just because im on his page when was it ever stated that Minato "was also believed to be one of the strongest shinobi that ever existed." I can understand gifted somewhat but was that mereley overlooked because of his huge fanbase?) anyways we've heard a little about the Second before the war but when they were reincarnated and came to the battlefied we saw alot of praise for his abilites by multiple people but whenever others or I add it, it is deleted because it's "not neccessary" or "he doesnt need people references" but i mean where else are we going to get refrences from. if we just add it with no peeople reference its still going to get deleted. were not "fluffing" mearly stating what everyone see's and has to accept. and to be honest he doesn't exactly have many extraordinary feats battlewise other than killing Izuna and neither does Hiruzen other than being called God of Shinobi. But even here i must say Tobirama and Hiruzen definetly deserve those in their prelude abilities section because their was not much to say but i do somewhat understand Hashirama and Minato --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 19:45, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Revision of Ino edit
hello i see that your removed thr image of ino i uploaded i wanted to ask why because you said it voilates the image oplicy but i did what the admin jacce told me and so i dont see where the iamge violates the policy also it shows that ino is very serious about the war unlike naruto who just lays down. please tell me what i did worng thank youIloveinoxxx (talk) 17:03, October 31, 2013 (UTC) i am sory i dont want to be a nuisance please forgive me and delete the imageIloveinoxxx (talk) 17:17, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Misc requests
A verbal tic? Dunno, he uses よ yo more than once, it "indicates certainty, emphasis, contempt, request, etc.". Seelentau 愛議 13:08, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hashriama and Tobirama chakra edit
On my Hashirama edit you stated "No great feat was achieved there of even indicated" but Hashirama's (at the time) continuous use of the barrier is chakra-taxing he still had enough chakra to make 11 wood clones then go fight against Madara in a prolonged battle that still hasn't even finished yet. And on the Tobirama edit "Not an great feat. None of the Hokage were even remotely fatigued from using the barrier." However during the fight against Obito Tobirama comes back and a few minutes later as they are about to prepare a counter attack, Minato is shown having to catch his breath then after Naruto and Sasuke's successful attack on Obito in the next chapter Minato is seen once again panting and cathcing his breath. Then Tobirama uses a high power water technique then jupms into the Shinju tree which is rapidly sucking up chakra then jumps away carrying three without any type of fatigue. --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 17:43, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well just a few things I need to point out: 1.) The edits I make are only ones that are purely factual, assumptions that can be proven or things that where stated in either the manga and/or anime. 2.) If its not chakra-taking how else could you explain the shadow clone limitations of Hashirama and Tobirama and possibly Minato. 3.) If its not chakra-taking why would it say on the page "The barrier is apparently very chakra-taxing since at least two of its users are limited in the usage of other techniques, such as clone techniques, while maintaining the barrier at the same time." --Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 19:22, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Deleting my edit?
On the Four Violet Flames Formation page why did you delete my edit? The article was short anyway. I just wanted to add info about the jutsu. Zaak71 (talk) 00:00, November 6, 2013 (UTC)zaak71

Sharingan article
Why did you delete my edit? The phrase before just stated that the original owner could see through the eye he/seh had given, not that even the actual owner could do the same. And it isn't only about seeing, but also hearing. At least I think it would be worthy to leave the ref.--JOA20 (talk) 12:58, November 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but Kakashi himself says that he can see what Obito sees and hear Obito's voice.--JOA20 (talk) 16:04, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

help
Most people haven't noticed this page yet but could you maybe help and add to it because your amazing at adding and editing? The page is EminaMunchvtec (talk) 14:40, December 4, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

Volume 67 tankōbon images
Hi Cerez-san and how are you? It seems there's no one who could upload a complete version of this volume, so could you upload the tankōbon version of these chapters images if you find it? Thanks so much.. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:30, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Domō Arigatō ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:32, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Removing Rinnegan transformation image
I am not insisting that we put the image back. I was just wondering why you say the image was "horribly" misleading since it actually is an image of Madara transforming his Mangekyō Sharingan into the Rinnegan. Steveo920, December 30, 2013, 20:45

Hi
Can you please find RAW versions of these images? File:Suna Priest.png, File:Gaara intercepts chain.png, File:Sasuke vs. Madara.jpg and File:Sasuke vs. juubi Clone.JPG. If possible, the last two in png if that matters here. Thanks.Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 18:32, January 4, 2014 (UTC)

Deleting redirects
From now on, could you not remove the redirect code from redirects tagged for deletion? If they still have that code, they're that much easier to find through "What links here" in the article with the correct name. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:29, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

I agree because there have been some issues with you doing this. Munchvtec (talk) 14:31, January 7, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

It's fine. Munchvtec (talk) 13:43, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Hahaha
Okay cerez, nice one. ill keep to my own arguments next time instead of butting into yours. Also, my changes just added to what the jutsu does. they were not completely pointless. Munchvtec (talk) 15:42, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Messed up pictures
Could you take a look at the pics on Izumo Kamizuki and Kotetsu Hagane's articles? I recently uploaded replacements for the previous ones, but with me the pics looks all messed up. Would hear if you also can see this, and if you can how I might be able to fix it? --Kasan94 (talk) 14:51, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the quick response. --Kasan94 (talk) 20:58, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Kamui
jutsu as unique as kamui definitely need history --

Re:Tobirama/Senbon
You keep saying there NEEDS to be a discussion, I do not see one anywhere. I'm not being counterproductive because something as obvious as this needs no discussion. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 21:24, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Nevermind then...--OmegaRasengan (talk) 21:31, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Tenten: Lightning Rod
Hey, I saw in the Tool list for Tenten "Lightning Rod" and when I checked it out there was just a link to a Wikipedia site: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Rod. I saw that you were the one who edited the page so that it would classify lightning rod as a tool that Tenten uses. I was just wondering in what episode do we see Tenten utilizing a lightning rod. I just want to understand what is meant by this.GeneralDodders (talk) 01:46, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Naori Uchiha
All I did was add his/her. If you checked what I actually edited then you'd now. Don't just assume. Munchvtec 13:34, January 29, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

New Forum System
I would be greatly appreciative of your opinion to this suggestion. Many thanks :) --Speysider Talk Page 13:51, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yes
Yea it is a form it even says it in the last paragraph bove his gallery Riptide240 (talk) 18:28, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Tobirama
Because it's in the section talking about his chakra reserves, and it's manga fact that the larger the item being teleported, the more chakra required. What he did was basically teleport two Bijuu and a Tailed Beast Ball in one instance.Pesa123456789 (talk) 21:38, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

720p and 1080p templates
I don't know if I understand those templates correctly, so that's why I'm asking you. All the following pictures are, as I understand, allowed to use the 720p template right? . And if that's incorrect can you please explain it to me. --Kasan94 (talk) 17:47, February 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright I will try and ask them. Thanks anyway --Kasan94 (talk) 13:58, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Rinbo: Hengoku
Are you okay if Deva Path is listed as the parent jutsu of Rinbo: Hengoku? I noticed you wrote you had no problem with that on the Rinbo: Hengoku talk page. Me and Riptide240 are trying to list Deva Path as the parent jutsu but other people keep reverting our edit. Can you help us argue for Rinbo: Hengoku as a deva path jutsu on the talk page for Rinbo: Hengoku?--Rinneganmaster (talk) 04:29, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

RAW images
Hi. You have access to the raw version of the newest chapter, haven't you? If you have the time, can you please update the images that come from it?

I am also interested in where one might find the raw images. My search wasn't very fruitful until now, so can you please tell me the page you got your sources from or at least give me a hint? Much appreciated. Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 15:09, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nice, thank you! I will see what I can do! Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 15:59, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Uhm, about this. I thought the .png format should be used instead of .jpg due to quality or whatnot... :/ Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 16:41, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Aaah, that whole topic is a bit confusing, especially when you are new here. I can't find anything about it in the policy, maybe the community should come to a conconsensus about it, as I now heard like the third opinion about how to deal with images here. That's just needlessly complicating things, isn't it? Idontcareaboutmyname (talk) 10:58, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chapter 663 translations
I already have, look at the technique's talk page. ;) Seelentau 愛議 15:24, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Sakura edit
Why did You Take Sakura's Chakra Transfer technique and summoning:Slugs and remote healing from the jutu box these Jutsu's are important they need to be added and p.s I Like the intro to sakura no one changes it so thanks but can you please change Jutsu and add those ones

Sangger13 (talk) 13:28, February 18, 2014 (UTC)HI!

Re: 351 image request
Done and you're right. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:31, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Gunbai Barrier Technique
Madara clearly activates a Susanoo aura just before the barrier activates, my comment about Sasuke's Susanoo was because the aura was purple instead of Madara's blue susanoo. TricksterKing (talk) 11:47, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Characters images
Hi Cerez-san and how are you doing? I want to consult you about the images of some characters in their full appearance that I uploaded, how about them? As you can read from the summaries, I just picked them from the TV-Tokyo's webpage. I want to continue to upload more images like Shikamaru, Shino, Onoki and Kiba for exmaple. Let me hear your opinion. Thanks so much... — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 14:26, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad to see your opinion for that. Kudos!! — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:15, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 666
Honestly, Cerez-san ... Not everything. But as I understand that Obito and Kakashi used their Kamui to speed up Obito's transfer into his Kamui's dimension after Kakashi transferred Naruto and Sakura into that dimension, but Madara thought that they would use their Kamui together to confront him as Obito did in the first time, though. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 07:46, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, btw I read this chapter three time to understand it properly. For those events like this, I somehow prefer the anime to explain it better than in the manga. But when? After two years I think (LOL xD) .... Hopefully my explanation was clear to you. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 07:57, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Summary 666
Hello. I tried to do a summary of what happened in this chapter. Hoping not to have pissed you off, I read your topic with Shakhmoot-san about what Obito and Kakashi did, and I think it turned out like this: Obito's Kamui + Kakashi's Kamui = double speed of Obito's Kamui.--JOA20 (talk) 07:59, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Since you were talking about doing the summary yourself, I felt like excusing myself in advance, also for reading your conversation with Shakhmoot-san though it isn't exactly private.--JOA20 (talk) 17:13, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Orochimaru's Ninjutsu
Episode 72 and Shippuden 352. What are your thoughts on the technique he used?--NaviiGator (A.K.A.KotoSenju) Talk Page-My Contributions 15:49, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: BOT Work
Yeah, sure. So what all exactly do you want changed? All instances? Just links? Or what...?--~Ultimate Supreme  16:29, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Changed whatever I could think of. Didn't run it on all pages, might just do it with the spellbot, whenever I run it the next.--~Ultimate Supreme  11:26, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Edit
About the Uzumaki's Relationships page, I wanted to apologize for the edit battle that went on. I tried to resolve this by asking the Michma12 to provide proof that Naruto HAD(implying no longer) feelings for Sakura yet he provided nothing and continued putting same speculation on the page yet has no problem putting Naruto and Hinata as "Secret Lovers" from a video game as trivia plus went as far using Hinata's concept design as trivia saying the writer intended for her to be Naruto's love interest when the translators have already confirmed this to be false. So I'm just assuming the user is being ProNaruHina/AntiNaruSaku biased(even though I'm neutral to both couples). I've rambled enough but as I said I do apologize since I'm new here. --MegamanZero0002 (talk) 00:36, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chapter 667
Kabuto says "Yes... With my Iryōninjutsu and research devoted to those Hashirama cells, and with the advice of a certain someone, I could just barely save his life." Seelentau 愛議 11:08, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Tenses (Chapter/Episode)
Hi! It's been a while. I just want to ask you a question. English is not my mother tongue so I'm quite confused, what should be the tense of the verb on chapter or episode articles, present or past? I've seen an episode article in past tense, and another in present tense. ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 18:47, March 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Apologies for butting into this question, but all articles should be written in the past tense. If an article is written in present tense, it's written wrongly and should be fixed. --Speysider Talk Page 18:48, March 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh it's fine, but I've seen many episode articles in present tense in episode articles of Kazekage Rescue arc. ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 19:01, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Chen, En and Samo.
Hey Cerez. I can see that you for about a year ago added pictures of the characters, Samo, Chen (student) and En. How did you know that the pics belonged to those names? --Kasan94 (talk) 22:26, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Signature
Hey Is my signature appropriate to use on this wiki? -- 19:27, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks 20:40, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Spin-Off Raw
Hi! Where were you able to get a raw version of Rock Lee Spin-Off cover's image a few years ago? Thanks! ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 12:52, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Izanagi - Yin & Yang
I fell upon something on a couple of pages, in which these characters all have yin and yang releases just because they are able to use Izanagi. Should this be corrected? the pages are: Naka Uchiha, Rai Uchiha and Baru Uchiha. --Kasan94 (talk) 11:12, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks! Nothing wrong then --Kasan94 (talk) 14:52, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 671 raw
He says 利き腕 kiki ude, meaning dominant arm Seelentau 愛議 11:16, April 5, 2014 (UTC)+

Sasuke's Part II summary
In the last sentence, when exactly in Chapter 671 did Sasuke "get up back on his feet" to face Madara? On the last page of the manga all I saw was Guy struggling with Madara. I'm under the impression that this wiki does not assume things until the next chapter is released. WindStar7125 (talk) 02:21, April 6, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125

your feedback
On the whole Yoton thing, mind giving some?--Elveonora (talk) 15:02, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke using all elements
Shouldn't Sasuke be listed with all elements and Yin-Yang release? After all he does have the rinnegan now. KiritoLevel96Alicization (talk) 15:32, April 16, 2014 (UTC)KiritoLevel96Alicization

Re: Gedō Mazō
The image is deleted (then I thought it was the same with the seal jutsu). Can you re-upload the image? ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 15:11, April 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Let me handle it. :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:14, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

Ah. I understand. KiritoLevel96Alicization (talk) 16:51, April 18, 2014 (UTC)KiritoLevel96Alicization

dafuq?
Seriously? We were plainly told that Sasuke DOES have Hashirama's cells. You must have missed that part with Kabuto pumping them into Sasuke's navel, but whatever. Not only cells, but chakra too directly from Hash--Elveonora (talk) 13:04, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Really? You must have missed that part where the snake was injecting stuff into Sasuke, unless you suspect they were having sex together or something. Do obvious things really have to be served to us on a plate? Suspecting that Kabuto healed him with research based on Hash cells without actually using them despite having been seen injecting something into Sasuke is being a little too paranoid. Not to mention it's irrelevant at this point, since not only was he given Hashirama's (Asura's chakra) but also Hagoromo's and now has a Rinnegan--Elveonora (talk) 13:22, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Right, yet people jumped to the conclusion that Naruto can use Fire, Earth and Lava and that he hosts all Biju, certainty indeed :P--Elveonora (talk) 15:04, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Shadow Clones do have consciousness, they are nothing but chakra. Orochimaru in Curse Marks has consciousness and he was chakra. Hagoromo is chakra, has consciousness. There's plenty of such instances in the series, yet for some reason, people jump to the conclusion that just because Naruto Tailed Beasts' chakras have consciousness, they are the actual Tailed Beasts, ignoring the fact that they are inside of Gedo Mazo. About "Roshi precedence" that's what I was talking about all along, Roshi could use Lava Release himself actually, he was using it differently than Naruto did. And this is what Naruto's article states: "After gaining Son Gokū's and Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki's power, he gained the Lava Release ability as well as Fire Release and Earth Release, which he could add to a new Rasenshuriken.[100] Upon activating his new jinchūriki form, Naruto can manifest ten black chakra spheres — similar to that of the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki — which are composed of at least four unknown chakra natures and the Yin–Yang Release"

It makes several assumptions, that:
 * Hagoromo's power contributed to his supposed usage of Lava Release
 * That he "gained" Fire and Earth Releases and power to merge them into Lava
 * That his Truth-Seeking Balls consist of Yin-Yang Release, despite there being no evidence whatsoever that his can nullify ninjutsu, because he is actually yet to use them and there's strong evidence that they aren't YYR from the get-go and opposition (Omni included) to the article stating so
 * Senjutsu of Six Paths being a section/sub-section despite not being a thing

and so on...--Elveonora (talk) 15:50, April 19, 2014 (UTC)