Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-9782468-20200430061151

@Legion Did the anime or manga reference the novels? I'm not aware of these instances.

That timeline has information that's false lol, that's my point.

That timeline is specifically to show when the novels take place, isn't it?

Against Obito. He thought he was Madara, who could kill the Leaf if Itachi died. It would fit his cover motivation of wanting to test his abilities. Itachi could have waited til he was in Akatsuki or before, either way works. If he didn't wait, that just meant he'd have to find Akatsuki on his own (and Akutsuki most likely would have sought him out anyways, which is what they do, shown with Deidara). And the Akatsuki wouldn't care if he killed Obito, Kakuzu killed his partners all the time til he got Hidan.

Oh, so he did have a thing with her, that's news to me. But meh, he also deeply cared for his parents too, which was shown. Yet he used the most taxing jutsu possible... at the very beginning of the night? What?

Wait now I'm actually reading the article on her. It says that in the anime, they met at a different time than in the novel, and that also in the anime she dies to Obito and not to Itachi? So uh, take that as you will. Apparently there's only two instances of her death (and of their meeting), and they contradict.

Kakashi actually did steel himself to kill Obito and went for the killing stroke twice on him. He also went for the kill against Sasuke too.

Hiruzen was known for being very softhearted; he didn't want the Uchiha massacre to happen but Itachi knew it had to be done. This was the difference in their thinking.

Jiraiya being one of the legendary Sannin doesn't mean anything in this discussion lol. He was a powerful combatant, but loyal to his comrades. That's different than the series' potrayal of Itachi's kind of self-sacrificing nature.

Hashirama's entire character was an idealist.

Zabuza had feelings yeah but he pretty much ignored them and still went to kill Kakashi. Even the most hardened hearts are shifted when someone close to them dies. This was something touched on by Hashi and Madara's dads going to kill each other's sons.

Yeah, because Naruto swayed him lol. I always thought his plan was to hurt everyone to the point of understanding why they shouldn't try to hurt each other anyways. So peace would be born out of understanding pain, not fear of Nagato.

Yes but again, tremble, cry, yes Itachi has emotions. But how often is it that Itachi let's emotion get in the way of his efficiency? Pretty much never.

But yeah now my biggest gripe with the scene is that it even contradicts the anime. I'm not even claiming the anime has more of a say than the novels, but I'm not saying vice versa either. Now the feat is just outright contradicted by another media