Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26704954-20160301064038/@comment-3965545-20160306234942

Yeah he was 56 when Kurama attacked, Jiraiya was 54yrs old at death. They were both out of their prime by then, 5 years for Jiraiya and 7 years for Hiruzen who apparently did not age well as his reserves went to shit in a hand basket as soon as he lost prime age. Oro and the Anbu in the fight against Hiruzen both said that his reserves were huge in his prime, but patheic out of his prime. Plot, plus horrible aging has screwed Hiruzen over. Prime Hiruzen would win here. @MIG the hate from these people comes from the fact that Hiruzen doesn't have a KKG, isn't a jinchuriki, isn't a transmigrant, and isn't a Sage therefor he doesn't use gigantic flashy shit. Obviously the ones who are showing hate are those DBZ fans who say dragonball was boring since they didn't have SSJ or giant explosions constantly LOL