Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200109132728

If Obito remained tangible, then yes, I think Minato would have struck Obito. He would have been struck and then Minato would have been sucked into Kamui. It's not like the generated Kamui portal is an impenetrable shield where Obito can't be touched or hurt. Konan disproved that by nearly killing him with paper bombs. This weakness has been established time and time again, he materialises whenever he uses Kamui. But again, that wasn't Minato's intention, he always intended to use FTG. If he didn't plan to use FTG, he wouldn't have charged at Obito like that. And my point is that Minato couldn't have reached him, I'm not saying that it's an unsurpassable barrier, I'm saying that it distorces space, like a black hole

I'm not sure why you're counting Obito's clones in the MU but then you bracket off Nagato's clones. You can't exclude someone's ability in a MU but allow it for the other opponent. I just said "if no clones are involved" so for both

Besides, Nagato has actually been shown using Shadow Clones, whilst Obito has not shown the ability to use either Shadow or Wood Clones. Lol, Nagato was even the one who created those complicated doppelganger tag clones that fought Team Guy. So I'm not sure why you're acting like Nagato can't do a basic Shadow Clone.

https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Mirrored_Sudden_Attacker_Technique I'm not saying he can't make clones, I'm saying that both of them don't fight using clones, we don't know the reason but they don't do it It's like saing that rinnegan Sasuke will use a shadow clone in a fight

That's not the reason why Pain was pushed out of Shinra Tensei. The Shinra Tensei that Pain used on Six Tailed Cloak (STC) was an omnidirectional one, and the way STC resisted it was by rooting its tails into the ground. After that, what STC then did, was shove Tendo towards the edge of his omnidirectional wave of force. The moment he got to the edge of that force was when Tendo was shoved away by his own technique.

This means that clones should still be able to use Shinra Tensei. It's an assumption tho, we don't know if the use of the rinnegan takes a toll on the body, an example is the susanoo that left Sasuke in pain after he used it, when Obito gets the rinnegan he sais that he has difficoulties controlling it or something like that, so why should a clone be able to use the rinnegan abilityes?

Obito can already do that? Whenever he's fighting someone, he sends that specific body part to Kamui whilst someone is fazing through it. I meant for attack purposes, like he sucks in only the arm of the enemy, that should take less time

Nagato wouldn't be put in the position where he'd starve to death, since he wouldn't be pulled into Kamui in the first place. I've already said this, but Nagato's Soul Steal doesn't have to work. I know that Soul Steal is not instantaneous, but the fact is, if Obito PULLS Nagato into his dimension while Nagato has merely TOUCHED him, then Nagato would still have Obito's soul gripped in his hand and Obito would be effectively killing himself by pulling BOTH Nagato and his own soul into the Kamui dimension. And given the length of Nagato's Asura extended arms, I'm 100% positive that he'd at least touch him before Obito completely executes Kamui. I meant that he does this during his Izanagi time, so the soul should pop in inside him after that giving that Nagato doesn't seal it, and actually Obito soul returned from the afterlife thanks to Kamui lol