Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26704954-20160301064038/@comment-24163532-20160304045021

The Manga even stated that Hiruzen was the best. This has to be taken as fact if the Databook and Manga both state it. It still shouldn't shock anyone since Hiruzen in his Prime is never shown. Not only that but old Hiruzen was pretty powerful in his seventies. He was able to defeat Orochimaru, Hashirama, and Tobirama. Sure they weren't at full power, but they were still defeated. Orochimaru is considered a Hokage caliber shinobi (this is proven since he was in line for it but Minato was chosen over him), so in all reality, old Hiruzen defeated 3 Kage level Shinobi. That is one of the best feats shown. He also knows the Hiden techniques of Konoha? All five elements? and Yin-Yang Release? So he could become a giant using super-size, then use his giant shadow to perform paralysis on all targets then use his gigantic strength to withhold them? Of course that's only if he does know the Hiden. With Hiruzen and his knowledge, the possibilities are endless. He might not have many feats, but he has statements and some impressive feats backing up his power and should not be underestimated.