Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-34656247-20190121233116

Thekillman wrote: Itachi looked pretty shocked that he broke it, and at least half of Zetsu barely believed it. So yea, it's not common. But it's possible to do. He was acting....thought that this was established in the series already ;_;.

Jamessenpai wrote: Because he wouldn't be able to break free according to Naruto, obviously. Lol.
 * So are you saying Bee can counter Tsukuyomi? i don't see it happening when he literally became fodder to just basic genjutsu casted by both Itachi and Sasuke..

Did Kakashi say anyone or did he say you? He said you. Who was he talking too? Chiyo, Sakura, and Naruto. You have no argument. You can't prove he meant anyone in general
 * Except it's not like that, Kakashi also warned two JOnin from Konoha that they can't deal with Itachi (genjutsu wise), and one of those Jonin just happened to be Konoha's best genjutsu user at that time, then Itachi went on to solo Orochimaru with just ephemeral i don't see him escaping Tsukuyomi and we can say Orochimaru>>>Konoha jonin/anbu.

especially when he implied Sasuke can break it from the gecko. Itachi states only one with the Kekkei Genkai and Sharingan can do it, Kakashi stated Sasuke.
 * Also, If we wanna take things literally, Kakashi at that time said a kid Sasuke can beat Tsukuyomi which now seems like obvious BS, so with that cleared it should now be obvious that they weren't referring to Tsukuyomi.

"He has you instantly", obviously means he has you in his Genjutsu. "it has nothing to do with whether you can defeat Genjutsu or not" obviously means even if you can break Genjutsu, that don't matter. The level of misinterpretation here is insane ;_;..the first time Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Kakashi, the latter along with Asuma described the speed of Tsukuyomi as instant or near instant, which is what Kakashi is referring to in the chiyo scene....whether you can break genjutsu or not doesn't matter is Kakashi addressing the fact that you won't have time to deal with Tsukuyomi because as he said before "it's instant"...

Now if were to use the novel feats of Tsukuyomi which was executed in a pico second or 0.000 000 000 001 seconds, which btw is an insane time to experience 80 years worth of lifetime in...what i want you to do is to tell me the name of one shinobi who can react that fast to break it.


 * Now regarding the usage of Tsukuyomi in the Sasuke vs Itachi battle, the contents of the Tsukuyomi is big giveaway that it was not the best or strongest for that matter...getting stabbed on a cross for what seems like three days by infinite Itachi's weilding swords, compared to getting an eye plucked out HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, i see which one is the real mind rape.