Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-26773508-20150720124157

Thekillman wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote: I think Sarutobi is way too hyped. Oh with that i agree, but for a very different reason. for a character said to be a God of Shinobi and someone supposed to surpass Hashirama, the amount of fighting we get out of him is downright pathetic. Like i said, hes the God of Shinobi but we don't even know his most powerful jutsu. That's what I feel, too. Personally, I don't care much about Hiruzen. I didn't give a damn about Tobirama, either. But that was before he proved his skills and cunning against Juubito (especially the part where he hits Juubito with his own TSB). Meanwhile all Hiruzen did was use a five-elemental attack against Guruguru Tobi. I understand that Edo Hiruzen was not even remotely close to Prime Hiruzen, but Kishi seriously trolled Hiruzen like he trolled Minato, Hanzo and Neji. Minato had so much hype, but he didn't live up to it satisfactorily. His performance in the 4th War was way better than Hiruzen, but still I and a lot of fans were disappointed with him. He saved the entire Shinobi Allied forces twice. Yet against Juubito his performance was poor; he looked like a bumbling idiot compared to Tobirama, who was keenly analysing Juubito. Worse, he lost the other half of Kurama to Black Zetsu. Kishi seriously trolled us hard with the 4th War. Neji died without showing anything significant, despite him being the "genius of the Hyuuga clan". And Hanzo committed seppuku after losing way too easily to Mifune. So much for the hype.

Also regarding Madara saying that Tobirama and he were equal in life: I've never heard Madara say any such thing, neither in the manga nor in the anime. He praised Tobirama for being the fastest shinobi of his time, but apart from that I've never seen Madara praising Tobirama as his equal. On the contrary, I've seen Madara claim that Hashirama was the only one who could match him. That was during Hashirama's flashback when Madara and Hashirama talked in front of the Uchiha Stone Tablet, after which Madara left Konoha. But seeing as how Tobirama killed Izuna, I would say that Tobirama is at best equal to MS Madara. In no way is he equal to EMS Madara.