Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33308438-20180614101055/@comment-34194151-20180703055433

@Asian Reaper, My point was nothing more than the fact that Minato is touchable by opponents who don't have the juubi. Minato was tagged by the chain because he couldn't react in time to avoid it, and was forced to teleport AFTER it already touched him. So it is possible to surprise minato and land a hit of sorts on him. OBito used kamui to do it, but its not like ITachi doesn't have anything up his sleeve that can do similiar things. Minato in the end outsmarted Obito because Obito apparently forgot mid fight that his sensei can teleport to kunai... If obito was thinking more clearly he could have seen through that feint and let minato slip through him, and then counter-attack, and obito could have won. Itachi did react to the lightning though, which Princeharris corrected me to be 220,000,000 miles per hour (I erroneously was thinking of the speed of the sound of thunder before). Even if he saw sasuke waving his hand down his susanoo still needed to be activated quickly enough to avoid getting fatally hit. Its not like lightning is a slow attack. Itachi literally had probably less than milliseconds to form that defense. All sasuke's hand did was allow itachi to at least be mentally prepared for the incoming attack, but from what I can tell he didn't use susanoo until the instant the lightning came down. @LoneNinja, you never specificed that before though. But that's a good point, yes he could have used the totsuka blade to seal Nagato at the start, but you could argue that his focus in the moment was stopping nagato from killing BEE and naruto and getting them a safe distance away. You could also argue that kishimoto wanted a more dynamic fight. But I can concede to that, but even then, at his next best opportunity he used the totuska blade and sealed nagato quickly, its not like he was wasting time spamming katons. and in fact, backing up a bit, when itachi first broke freee from kabuto's control he used amaterasu on Nagato right off the bat and for plot reasons he didn't seal him after nagato fell off the bird, cuz Kishimoto decided to have him narrate about kotoamatsukami instead. Also, I get my feats from the manga and in the manga Sasuke used enton projectiles not Amaterasu against Gaara, and they are different things in case you don't know. Good point about Rock lee, but the fact still remains that Hokage Kakashi stopped using chidori because of tunnel vision. Even MINATO himself told him as a kid not to use chidori because its too fast and you can't avoid the counter-attack without a sharingan. Also, Ay saw the attacks with his eyes but couldn't counter attack because he was off balanced, Bee's tentacle had to save him. @ Kaiser and @LoneNInja I agree that Minato's ARSENAL can beat itachi but that's not the same thing as saying Minato can beat Itachi. Both the characters are in character, and Minato blitzes people in a straight line. I'm sure minato is faster than rock lee even without Flying rajin but we have never seen him attack opponents from multiple directions in quick succesion. Don't you think moving like rock lee would have been smarter than a linear blitz against Juubi Madara and Jubbi OBito? and yet Minato doesn't attack like that cause its not his style. Even against 14 yr old MS obito minato was attacking him by running in a straight line as his first move.