Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32369776-20170706150024/@comment-25643824-20170714233035

@Lorenzo VonMT

By your reasoning I could say that hagoromo was no stronger than naruto since they both needed help to seal/defeat kayuga. But we obviously know hagoromo is strong despite not knowing all his feats. Saying sasuke's susano is stronger because it did something that Madara's didn't get the opportunity to do is silly especially when we know Madara is one of the strongest characters in the manga.

There is no evidence that rinnegan sasuke is faster or stronger than rinnegan Madara,

Madara didn't use any wood release techs during this battle which sasuke has no answer for.

He can easily allow himself to get caught by ameno and counter with his limbo clones or wood release.

You try to make sound as if ameno is a one shot sure kill tech when sasuke has never killed, defeated or subdued anyone with it single handedly, not even fodder like shin.

I give this to Madara.