Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28614651-20200422182101/@comment-6769189-20200519191418

Babyfriend1 wrote:

Okay I said he didn't bail completely and instead focused on moving his head out of the way of where an attack with a small area of effect would go. And Naruto can see the future to know that the attack wouldnt have a wide area of effect? He knew Madara with use a thin beam?

Are you also suggesting that Madara saw him move prior to the attack and didnt adjust properly?

Babyfriend1 wrote:

You said the art suggests that the launch swing and dodge happened in the same instant whereas I think they happen at slightly different times but in reality you think the dodge happened after the launch and I think it happened before the launch (or during the breaking of the staff). Doesnt matter what you think, what matters are statements and showings.

Babyfriend1 wrote:

You claimed the manga showed the staff was destroyed instantly because all we get to see is the broken staff but that's like saying that when madara on the second page is facing one direction and then is shown facing another direction that it happened instantly because we never saw a panel between with motion lines showing he took time to turn his head. The fact that there are no motion lines shows us that he didnt make a sudden movement and was not longer in motion

Which isnt the case for Naruto and the Lightfang

Babyfriend1 wrote:

If there's no panels to show something took time that doesn't mean you can assume it's instant because if it did then almost everything that happens between panels is instant. Every rock that was shown intact and then shattered without being shown in the process of being shattered was shattered instantly because there's no panel showing that it took time. Like i said, you are not understanding the art. You are also ignoring the context of light fang being the speed of light. You are ignoring that the page and panel before show us exactly what positions they were in and that all the motion lines corrospond to that position. And on top of that you are assuming Madara needs time to prep that attack and that Naruto can sense that prep.

If Naruto and and the beam didnt start motion from the same spot, the motion lines wouldnt lead to same spot.

If Naruto moved before the launch of the attack, Madara wouldnt have launched the attack where/when he did

If Naruto doesnt know when the attack will be launched, he cant properly dodge it, which means he has to wait for it to launch, which means has to be faster than it to not get hit by it

If Naruto anticipated the attack and preemptively dodged, he gas nothing to "Woah" or exclaim about

If you want to work with the theory that requires 90% assumption, then go ahead. I am going to go with what the art is telling us