Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-9782468-20200824001307

Lol Kakashi's hands are on par with Lightning already so I'm not surprised Itachi who's a noted master of Shurikenjutsu would be faster with his hands.

Also Minato moved his entire body faster than Ay's. His body position changed several times throughout the confrontations faster than Ay's, and FTG only change's your body's position in space, not the actual pose of the body.