Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20161030085406/@comment-9782468-20161213180342

Ninjachris wrote: @AsianReeaper I really don't understand what kakashi and obito have to do with naruto and sasuke. It's two different individuals and circumstances the point remains naruto overpowered sasuke and could have killed him and just waited for sasuke to do something. It is an ability that presents an unfair advantage since you are stealing something that belongs to someone else. Naruto has had 0.5 kuruma from the day he was born with it, even at vote1. I mean how many times do we really have go over the whole kuruma being an advantage issue, that is getting kinda old. Sasuke is a uchia they are born with a hax.

Naruto obviously was not fully replenished by hagoromo, are saying that naruto fought the five jinks/obito, jubito, madara, jubidara and kuyuga. And kuruma didn't need to rest/sleep. But one fight with sasuke and kuruma ran out of chakra. Man it's plain to see naruto and kuruma were both still heavily exhausted from the war arc battles.

@9 Arts dragon Naruto countered an ill gained advantage with NE. What's your point?

For sasuke's sake I hope if he naruto fight again the bijus are close by. Kakashi and Obito are similar because it's the same principle. Just because the one who seems pinned is more powerful, it doesn't mean they'll immediately react to possible death above them if they know their opponent doesn't want to kill them.

Your argument is that Sasuke uses an unfair power because it takes power from others.

It doesn't matter that Kurama has been with him since he was born, Naruto is taking power from Kurama.

Naruto also took power from several other Tailed Beasts during the Kaguya fight, so if we wanna talk about fair, then he gets none of those powers (and therefore no super TB cloak).

The Rinnegan is a dojutsu that was awakened in Sasuke's eye. You considering its abilities unfair is no different than if you considering him predicting movements with his Sharingan unfair. And if you try to reiterate with "oh he's taking power from elsewhere," Naruto has Kurama. During their VOTE fight, he had abilities (if not raw power) of all the Tailed Beasts. Stop trying to make Sasuke's Preta Path unfair, because it's not. It's simply one of his abilities, just like we include Kurama and other Tailed Beast abilities in Naruto's abilities.

Ninjachris wrote: Chakra absorption is an ability which allows you to STEAL chakra unless someone gives it willingly. I can't comprehend how that can be compared to gathering NE which is like the air we breathe is FREELY available to everyone. So we will have to disagree here to. Yeah it's being compared because it's not freely available to everyone, just ask Orochimaru.

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: nah it was 9.5 vs 1.5.. odds in sasuke's favor. ...No? The majority of the fight was just Sasuke against Naruto and Kurama. They hardly fought when Sasuk got the other Tailed Beast chakra. In the manga they didn't even fight at all, they just chucked their last jutsu at each other. than why did kurama commented on naruto's chakra quantity(that it was suffering from prolong war)? Hagoromo did gave his chakra but you cannot deny the fact that Naruto did the most of the fighting Vs Kaguya. And senjutsu doesn't increases chakra quantity by that much especially when it was single shadow clone, at best kurama had his complete chakra(yin+yang). So it was lot of chakra vs ultimate destructive power. Finally in this fight sasuke doesn't has that much chakra so how he is going to win? given all that talk abt SPSM granting some inate stuff shouldn't naruto be capable of using wood release? First off, Senjutsu does give you some more chakra (since you're balancing nature energy in, the quantity increases by about 33%). But the advantage lies in its quality; sage chakra is much more powerful than regular chakra. And Kurama sending chakra to Naruto was definitely a lot, what do you mean? Kurama has at least as much chakra as 5 other Tailed Beasts combined (even while in half). That amount of Sage Chakra is huge, especially given that Kurama by himself has so much chakra. And Naruto doesn't have Wood Release because we've never seen him use it; if we gave it to him, it'd be too much of an unknown variable to actually debate with. We wouldn't know how proficient he'd be with it, etc.