Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-27082825-20150116155842/@comment-1458758-20150123061706

True, thought I'm quite enjoying the debate. XD

There is also something to be said for timing. Onoki's older than dirt, to make the pun, and Mu was before that, where as Orochimaru is at least one generation later and his own research into these fields didn't come to a head until his adulthood and were accelerated by a complete lack of moral fiber. Which again brings us back to, I know Onoki's an asshole at times, but he does have some standard of human decency.

As it stands, even assuming they could do some form of genetic manipulation to aid them in creating Dust Release, it's possible the technology to transfer these abilities, or to clone people with them didn't exist until Orochimaru first succeeded with Yamato.

To do the exact maths on that, assuming this project exists at all (That being our biggest leap honestly) Onoki being born with this abiity puts the success of this project some 79 years before the Fourth War.

Yamato is 27 and disregarding the anime, let's assume he too had his ability from birth or near enough. That creates a gap of 52 years.

Now assuming the bare minimum that this project could get by on, namely selective breeding of people, the possible success rate being very low as we only have two successes, and then the time required to raise and train them. That would, without the ability to genetically alter existing people or to clone others, the required time for this project to bear fruit, is gonna be, I'm gonna say, about 10 years, 9 months for incubation (Ignoring any prior preparations required) and 9 years seemingly being about the average for ninja entering the academy, that would roughly be the time required to get another Dust user even approaching the field.

And using Onoki's age as guideline that puts this project 50 years ahead of being able to do this with any sort of efficieny as again, Yamato was the only success out of 60, so Orochimaru lost 59 potential ninja creating one bloodline user, not great odds. And then it would be a gap of, assuming Kabuto was working on the New Manda from the Death of the old one, 78 years until successful cloning give or take?

Not to mention something needs to be said for Kabuto in this, because while I wouldn't rule out genetic manipulation of some sort in the attempt to create a Dust Release user, it wasn't until Kabuto that we saw the ability to graft bloodlines to a person easily, as he gave himself Kimimaro and Sakon's bloodline abilities, whereas orochimaru, the dude whose entire plan revolved around the idea of taking all the jutsu and was quite happy to mutilate himself for science, apparently didn't think the success rate was high enough to attempt to graft any of these abilities to himself. He seemingly only just got the Curse mark, a watered down version of Jugo's bloodline to an acceptable casualty rate.

Still, having said that, I would be quite interested to see what other Kekkei Tota could appear and what they'd be like.