Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27418151-20160124021607/@comment-24824859-20160124042844

QuakingStar wrote: Hiruzen was said to surpass Tobirama who equals EMS Madara, at a young age in DB4. Therefor Kishi's facts about Hiruzen being tied, or stronger than Hashirama have to be true. I would LOVE to see a prime Hiruzen vs Hashirama battle, true strongest incarnate vs strongest non-incarnate. There's no way that Hiruzen is as strong or stronger than Hashirama. The manga showed us that. Heck, Madara said that only Hashirama could defeat him when he was fighting the 5 kages