Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-142748-20160321024517

MlGshinobi wrote: Except he did use rinnegan techniques, hashirama disabled his preta path. And like I said your numbers contradict the testimonies of hashirama and madara, so im free to disregard them. Madara was about to sealed, zetsu and obito saved him. He only needed one hand seal because of the power boost he gain ed from rinne tensi. Most of the battle was off panel anyways. The shinsenju would be very useful as it's a susanoo busting attack. Actually, considering Madara could absorb chakra without eyes, I think all Hashirama did was disable his natural chakra absorbing technique. If Preta was used, given its a sealing technique, the dragon would have been consumed. Not only that, there was no power boost, Madara just stopped holding back. Hashirama lost the moment he was stabbed, flat out. You love ignoring it, but its the truth. Oh and Hashirama wasn't even able to get Madara into that position without Naruto's help, if you recall.

Narutopwnu7 wrote: @SuperSaiyaMan by that logic jinchuriki obito was holding back as well since he never used his rinnegan powers or kamui,and how do you know that he didn't use his rinnegan/mokuton powers?most of their battle was offscreen and madara wanted his senjutsu powers,so him holding back doesn't make any sense at all. Actually that doesn't work since we got a reason why: Obito was struggling to keep the power of the Juubi in check. Hell he even flat out stated that as the Juubi Jinchuriki he couldn't use Kamui, remember?

We know that Hashirama never fought against Madara's Rinnegan nor Mokuton since he would have expressed surprise and would have noted it. We know that none of those techniques were used because of the fact that all we saw him was using Susanoo, a Sharingan technique.