Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32617252-20180630055746/@comment-33286580-20180702005030

@Jason

the Itachi not being a genius at the begining of my first post was a typo miss on my part. did you not read the whole point i made. in the very end i say that i Consider Itachi has Top 10 genius in Narutoverse but not the absolute top.

Just because Naruto learnt Kage Bunshin doesnot make it easy. it is a forbidden jutsu along with its multie version for a reason. it is why only few shinobi know the jutsu. The Scroll of seals may have the detail on the jutsu, but this is Naruto we are talking about. he at age of sixteen had to get a dumbed down version explanation for Wind Nature Transformation to get it to his head, there is no way the information in the scroll will make much sense to him. Yes the scroll has Hand Seals that is how learnt it. but isnt it how Itachi learnt it, by watching Fugaku make the seals. he even had a demonstration which naruto lacked.

Oh yeah, those Itachi epoisodes during the Mugen Tsukuyomi period. i remember them, but because they had no bearing to the story i forgot about them. after all they were filler and noncannon episodes. it may have been part of the novel, but it wasnt still written by Kishimoto-sensei.

look if we didnt have anything on what Itachi showcased to Sasuke after the Edo were dispelled than this could be considered main facts, but we do have a whole visualization of it in the manga. so the anime/novel is secondary and all extra stuff is non-cannon or filler.

Like take the 3 officer defeat example - in the manga and Naruto anime it is clearly shown that Itachi glared at them and pushed them. that was no fight as you imply.

Childrens opinion are always biased towards the person they like. Sasuke loved Itachi.

Unless and until it is shown or stated, Itachi did not creat Crow or Blast CLones.

Sage Mode increases perception and sense and all that. true. so does Sharingan. it gives an user ability to read opponents movements well in advance. so they are actually equal. and here we have 2 Sharingan users. so not a big deal.

In the end his plan was a failure and that is it.

Again, the majority of the village higher ups and those of Uchiha were focused on preparing for the coup so no one noticed Obito. they were all in the thick of it. the coup was about to take place and all.

To the anime/Novel stuff...

Yeah, i had forgotten about it. it was noncannon and filler as far as i care.

Yes Itachi showed use of Shadow Clones. Yes Itachi fought an ANBU. he took part in the CHunin Exam alone.

Itachi is someone who does excpetional with what he is shown and taught unlike others who form their own techniques and creat villages and such.

Okay with all, but that makes him a highly skilled shinobi, which i agree with. he is but not a genius on par with Minato or Tobirama.

People with better feats...

Minato, Kakashi, Orochimaru, TObirama, Sasuke all created powerful jutsu in their lifetime.

Minato defeated a platoon of Kumo Shinobi sent to capture Kyubi Jinchuriki Kushina.

Kakashi fought off teams of Iwa SHinobi before Minato arrived. Kakashi even at a young age participated in a war.

Tobirama created the system on which the village runs.

Orochimaru created his own village.

Hiruzen mastered all forms of ninja combbat.

Sasuke and Naruto took CHidori and Rasengan to a whole new level.

Minato and Naruto mastered SM.

i sound angry. well i am not. but if you think me debating (it may be factually wrong or right) makes you feel so than feel free to think so