Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150620103007/@comment-26107879-20150623064629

If this is them at their best I would assume with their best tools including that of their summoning's. If you think Kabuto with his thirty reanimations isn't better then Kabuto without them, then you seriously need to check yourself someone where cause that just makes you sound crazy. @Minato Actually only Hashirama at his strongest and Madara were the only ones capable of breaking out of Orochimaru's control. Tobirama at his strongest could not, read the manga during the war when Sasuke wishes to speak to them and Tobirama tries to break free from Orchimaru's control and fails, thus why one of the Kage complimented Hirzen about his student. As I said you are correct if Hashirama had the WILL to break free he could but in a battle where orochimaru wouldn't risk it and with the ability to turn off emotions, I don't see why he would give them free will to do so and even if he had to limit him, he still be enough for Minato while Tobirama at full power and Hiruzen will help. @Reptide240 there is one answer in many that can kill Minato, Tobirama, Minato won't be able to run from him forever and can only escape him for so long. @Third Eye Soul look at Minato's jutsu lists and point a sealing fuinjutsu out that will seal orochimaru away. You can't go by perhaps he has a fuinjutsu that can that isn't on that said list or we could just say perhaps maybe during his research for jutsu in Konoha Orochimaru got Flying Raijin, it just doesn't work that way. If you want Orochimaru without his Reanimations that's fine but he is not at his best. Orochimaru with Reanimation wins until a technique is presented that could kill him which Minato possesses that will not kill himself and Minato DOES NOT HAVE KURAMA, Minato said so. Without reanimation it is a stalemate, Orochimaru cannot touch Minato, Minato cannot kill Orochimaru. But Orochimaru at his strongest wins.