Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29965012-20170112023147/@comment-734582-20170125231027

Ninjachris wrote: 1. Yes sasuke who happens to be an uchia, wasn't it hashirama cells kabuto transplanted into him. That is the reason sasuke was able to meet hagoromo is his subconscious, just like naruto's was having all TB chakra. According to the Databook, Sasuke got his rinnegan from Hagoromo. Which makes sense, since it's clearly not a rinnegan like Madara's and he only has one. Sure he was able to meet hagoromo, but Sasuke's eye isn't a natural awakening. Naruto met Hagoromo by having all the beasts and being touched by Obito, but lacked Indra's chakra. That makes the statistics on natural awakenings 1 uchiha who tried and succeeded. Ninjachris wrote: 2. Can you send a link to where it states that both ashura and Indra had the rinnegan because I never saw that anywhere. I never said it was uchia only, I said it's the reincarnation of ashura and Indra. One having the sages eyes the other his body, the rinnegan is limited to their reincarnations. I thought you meant it was indra only. No, Ashura and Indra didn't have the rinnegan as that kekkei genkai was split between them.

Ninjachris wrote: @Kakashisologod I can agree with that, but don't make it seem as though he was at such a disadvantage in the fight because of it. Considering how close the Final Fight was, any disadvantage would change the outcome. Naruto's powers were more along what he already had and the Biju's presence allowed him to use their powers easily. Sasuke got an eye he never saw much of, whereas Naruto faced 3 enemies that used it differently for maximum experience.

It's not a huge difference, but it does matter.

But since the fight would go the same as in the Manga except Sasuke has no biju, he would lose simple as that.

Kakashisologod wrote: Both madara and obito are genraliy more experienced than sausuke so it should be easier for them(considering they had more knowledge)to use rinnegan. Nagato had decades to figure it out with help from Obito, though he clearly was also manipulated (as he believed Rinne Tensei would not be lethal by default).

Obito knew about the Rinnegan's power from Madara, for the purpose of completing the plan, but clearly wasn't told everything (e.g. about the cursed seal, or Limbo).

Sasuke's only experience against the Rinnegan was Obito, who used it for a few specific abilities, and Madara who mostly used Limbo. He had a few hours to figure out the eye at most, which is even less than Obito's few days.

Madara had Rinnegan for a few years and clearly experimented with it to figure out what it could do, but at the same time clearly didn't use it's more exotic and greater powers like Tengai Shinsei.