Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1018594-20150708054235/@comment-28861328-20150708163710

I can't say that I entirely disagree with this proposal, but I do have issues with it. Sysop rights are not status symbols. We're simply regular users with additional buttons. Like regular users, we have lives, other interests, and other commitments. We're not going to be active 24/7 and it is unfair to judge someone's usefulness as a sysop by whether or not they are on a website every waking moment, like some would have you believe.

Furthermore, I think periodic evaluations are naturally flawed. If there is a problem with a sysop/mod/what-have-you, there is a method for dealing with it. Starting a consensus thread, much like what was done with SuperSajuuk, is the best route to go. This is because a b-crat/Staff member, is unlikely to remove their sysop status without a considerable voice that says that a user is frequently and intentionally abusing their rights. I would caution users to understand that disagreement with you and/or a firm attitude (which many of our sysops have) =/= an abuse of sysop privileges.

Lastly, you have to consider the consequences of anything you vote for. Let's say your plan works as intended: You create threads, "abusive" (there are none) sysops are removed --- then what do you have? Well, then you have to either deal with the hole filled by that sysop's removal, or you have to replace them. That opens the door to constant promotions, de-promotions, etc. It'd be an endless cycle of hate threads, combined with promotion threads, that would only escalate the problem - not solve it.

Overall, I don't think this wiki has any abusive sysops. Are their sysops who are firm and hotheaded: yes. I am very hotheaded and that tends to get me in hot water sometimes. It isn't something I intend and I usually feel bad about it after I've cooled down (ask Elve how many times I've apologized to him in the past after a particularly nasty spat), but none of us use the sysop tools to harm or silence users of this wiki. All of us have a heart for this wiki (else, why would we be here?). So no, I don't think a "revolving door" policy, such as this would create, would be beneficial to this wiki.

Edit:

I would like to further add, that despite our differences, SuperSajuuk was a great editor. His contributions were invaluable and his decision to leave this wiki was certainly a loss, but it was his decision. He was not forced out, told to leave, nor did anyone take his rights away. He put them down willingly, by his own decision, and then he chose to leave. A thread was made where a considerable number of users voiced their concerns and it is my understanding that last night, a particularly volatile situation unfolded between him and several users in the chat.

I do not think it is right to hold the sysops accountable for his actions. Everyone is responsible for how they handle a situation. Yes, even me, a sysop. If I handle a situation poorly, then I must be the one to accept the consequences for my actions. I cannot constantly blame others and expect them to accept the consequences of my actions and I'd urge others to understand this.