Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3523655-20200802172018/@comment-46817411-20200926230236

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Orochimaru in canon(we aren't using video games or filler anime here obviously) is far more duarable than Obito was. Also Orochimaru was actually beating the shit out of 4 tails Naruto, Naruto couldn't escape his sword from pushing him away and stabbing him into the side of the rocks, mind you during all of this Orochimaru's body was failing him.. let's also talk about the moment he got bisected he instantly just shrugged it off and went on the attack. Orochimaru isn't getting hurt by Minato, Minato just doesn't have anything destructive enough.. and you don't know how long Minato was gathering that natural energy and creating Senjutsu chakra before he entered the form and by his own words it literally implies he took too long to do it. So what you SAW was Minato after gathering the energy for some time finally enter Sage Mode, to release ONE Rasengan and then LOSE Sage Mode. Also Orochimaru got stabbed with SoT.. a giant blade through his entire body and he acted like NOTHING happened, the only thing that affected him was when the sealing started and he realized too late what happened. Try again.

I really think you're Orochimaru and Obito comparison is pure speculation. I mean it looked like it just negated his wood style. For some reason, he should've just healed from that but he didn't.

I really wonder how you think being thrown around the battlefield like a ragdoll is winning. Naruto took a full force punch from Orochimaru and immediately counterattacked splitting him in two and went on the defense right afterward and proceeded to get folded.

Orochimaru then pinned him down with the sword for about a minute and a half before Naruto just casually pushed it to the side. Mind you Orochimaru also had to constantly regurgitate himself about 3 times during a 5 minute fight.

Note that a normal rasengan from Sage Naruto was able to one shot one of the stronger versions of pain (Asura Path I believe) the same one that was able to rip off Jiraiya's arm with one punch. And survived being crushed by Choji and Choza. And it didn't completely survive this, but despite the stuff it survived just moments ago, he also shows up out of absolutely nowhere to stop Kakashi's Raikiri.

And you can take Minato's word, i'mma take his action, but he wasn't gathering sage/nature energy before. Fukasaku said it's impossible or practically impossible to gather sage energy while moving and this nibba teleports constantly. So he's always moving. He was really just being modest when he said that it takes too long.

And while there's really no evidence of him even using Reaper Death Seal the same way Sarutobi did. I don't see why he can't. I mean it's just clones using the same technique that he can with almost the same amount of chakra. But okay. He does have a fuckton of sealing jutsu at his disposal so I don't really see how Orochimaru's getting out of that.

Hiding in Surface doesn't really work out too well because again, Sage Mode and he's also a sensory type.

What i'm about to say might not be the BEST point of reference but it certainly is one. Itachi, who is second only to Minato in academy scores made a complete fool out of Orochimaru when he was in the akatsuki. He made him look like an idiot. Mind you he was only like 13-16 years old at the time and Orochimaru was quite experienced. So i'm just sayyiiinnnnn'... MINATO GONNA CATCH HIM SLIIPPPPPPIIIIIINNNNN.