Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-27924662-20170524155252

BlazeRelease wrote: @Namikaze. Madara's plan to achieve peace was only through the Infinite Tsukuyomi. If he thought of making the whole village have peace and relief(which is the whole plan of the village) then Hashi would have agreed. But that's not what he read in the tablet. And if he kills Hashi in the end, then the whole village(who wouldn't prefer Madara after bringing titanic size demon fox to the village) would kill him when he is out of his chakra and stamina. And he can't possibly run away from the battleground all weak and all, there is Tobirama, who is waiting for the chance to get Madara in such a situation. So it was either get killed by killing Hashi the beloved leader of the leaf village consisting of his own clan,which will result in his whole clan to kill him and thus fail in his IT plan Or just follow his plan on taking some of Hashi's flesh from him and going on the ruse that he is dead, so no one would look for him when he is hiding. Well bud what about Madara waking kurama up and using it's chakra to enhance himself? And than releasing TB on the village? I don't see tobirama taking on both... Besides it would have been much easier for him if he could really win against hashirama to forward his infinite Tsukuyomi and my point is he can't. BlazeRelease wrote: You're forgeting that their second battle at which Madara lost all fun to play with them just left them almost dead on the ground. The what now? Because if I remember correctly he was gonna kill madara. you get your facts right. BlazeRelease wrote: And the only thing I can't figure out is why Madara didn't use his freaking MS genjutsu on Hashi? Yes maybe Hashi is trained to avoid it but how long can one avoid direct eye contact in a 24 hour fight against a war master and someone who knows all of his moves from the begining of their childhood? And miraculously you found out the solution for madara. the genjutsu. Do you really think hashirama and tobirama wouldn't have figure out a counter and besides Among Uchihas only Itachi and Shisui were the most renowned genjutsu master(reference Ao's statement) And two even though his MS wasn't shown, in game preview it seems like he could reverse ninja tools or something which were easily stopped by hashirama with wood release. BlazeRelease wrote: And I don't think EMS Itachi has that much of a chance but only Edo Itachi. Since you guys are taking two transmigrants as the best example possible for the power of the EMS. They literaly were reincarnated to have this eye. Their chakra power and eye powers are another level. We can't exactly decide Itachi having the same power as EMS Sasuke with Sasuke's eyes. Since there's still chakra power, reserves, eye prowress and the straight tomoe that only Madara and Sasuke have shown. Now you can say that they were the only shown with EMS. but Madara was the leader of the Uchiha clan, he would know a EMS with a straight tomoe if he saw one. by seeing Sasuke he even went to a deep theory of them being related beyond blood. That's showing how rare and possibly only for the Transmigrants is the Straight tomoe. Doesn't prove anything. According to tobirama Sasuke's chakra signature is similar to Izuna even though Izuna wasn't the transmigrant. Itachi has spiritual weapons, Brains, on par MS abilities I think he stands a chance and he was well versed in history to the point he was able to use Izanami even though it's forbidden. And he has an history of being the person to come on top of any opponent.