Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-26636534-20160226122835

@ShishiHeiwa

Jiraiya did use his swamp jutsu on one of the peins. There is no longer a need to discuss whether Amaterasu is instant or not. In your comparison Sasuke used blaze release, which is an advanced form of Amaterasu, not just Amaterasu. As I said many times, your accusations are baseless. I referenced Gamaken's jumping ability and the fact that he avoided the focus of the rinnegan, part 2 ep 131. Asking for evidence on a point that @LoneNinja believes to be true, is not the same thing as stating the converse. I asked for evidence that's all. If I really stated that the toads are faster than Haku please quoted it, otherwise I don't feel the need to even respond to your accusations anymore.

As stated before, Jiraiya reverse summoning the toads was in part 2 ep 131. Jiraiya used smoke bombs on his quest to find the child of prophecy, he then wrote his book and included that fight scene for the hero of the story. Smoke bombs would hinder the sharingan's vision(make eye contact harder), limit predictive and perceptive abilities.

Here is a few questions I have for you to answer:

1) Given this: ShishiHeiwa wrote: Furthermore, Jiraiya was running and hiding, three giant toads will stand out more than one giant toad don't you think?” Actually no I don’t think that. So you think that three giant toads won't stand out as much as one giant toad?

2) How do you think Jiraiya will use the info that he has on Itachi?

3) If Jiraiya was able to reverse summon 10 dogs, with each of the dogs comparable to   Gamaken in size, do you really think he would not be able two more giant toads? Reference part 2 ep 131

4) The moment Itachi starts to use his MS, he will be eating through stamina and chakra, be experiencing extreme pain. Even more so when he uses his Susanoo. How long do you think he can retain Susanoo and is it possible that his fighting strength would decrease the longer he uses it?

@MIGshinobi

Can the Yata Mirror really adapt to two natures at the same time and is it omnidirectional? The ultra big ball rasengan was described as being able to destroy a mountain top, so yes it can. Deforming and reforming Susanoo costs a lot of chakra and stamina, Susanoo is basically a chakra avatar. Also the user must endure an extreme amount of pain while it is used. Using Totsuka blade on an enormous 8 headed snake is not a speed feat, same when using it on a mind controlled cripple. Jiraiya used the barrier after he clasped his hands, reference chapter 375 page 3.