Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20160102030534/@comment-26403664-20160228030941

@MIGshinobi "Sasuke ???? You mean the same dude itachi was holding back against and STILL couldnt win." What point are you trying to counter, when I reference Sasuke I'm talking about Sasuke as an adult with Rinnegan unless I referenced him younger.

"Like I said, kabuto also said in part one hiruzen was the strongest hokage so are you gonna tell me he is a 100 percent credible source on that" No Iruka and a databook said that so there goes your infallable databook which was written by Kishimoto himself. In regards to the Yata Mirror being talked about in the databook, Kishi literally forgets a lot of things in his story and retcons many things so yeah that is most likely why the Yata Mirror is not discussed very much.

"Meanwhile you assert the databook being "outdated" with no basis" The databook you are using is outdated because there are others that have been released after it and the manga nor the anime wasn't even finished at the time of the release of said databook.

"Masashi Kishimoto, who I think is a credible source for his own story, said in databook 3 275 that the yata mirror " a spirit weapon without a physical form with the ability to change every single one of its properties, allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance with the attributes of the attack, rendering it ineffective". Therefore, your size argument wont work, as the yata mirror can easily adapt to the 1000 hands via the writers own words." You are delusional. The 1000 canon attack made a giant ass valley. There is no way that the yata mirror can stand against that. The databook is not a reliable primary source it should only be used in supporting claims from the anime or the manga. In the context of both the anime and the manga the yata mirror does not stand. The same data book also says that Tailed Beasts are mindless creatures and then another states that only Kurama knows about the secrets of the sharingan. I can go on and on about the amount of inconsistencies in the databook. You're just using it as an excuse to be an Itachi fanboy.

"There isnt a limit to the chakra preta path can absorb, so you made that up." I made it up yes. It is my very logical belief judging from the context of the anime and manga. While my belief is not proven but it has evidence. You never see the preta path absorbing anything more powerful than a rasenshuriken. If it could absorb more powerful attacks anyone with that ability would be impossible to defeat. Further more within context if you actually read my post you would have seen that I said it is possible for a jutsu to be fast enough to destroy a target before the target can react.

"Itachi didnt even use the totuska blade because he was holding back in the kabuto fight, so not sure why thats relevant." His susanoo's sword is the Totsuka blade. Yes he was holding back but the sword only seals what it pierces, so it has to stab something. You have no common sense.

"Itachi's totuska blade will just pierce through the wood style and one shot hashirama. Madara doesnt have a weapon that can one shot hashirama on contact or penetrate through his defense effectively. And hashriama easily heals off all damage. Totuska blade doesn't care and just seals him." Yet again fanboy I doubt the totsuka blade could peirce a wood golem which can use a tailed beast ball as a rasengan. And Madara has susanoo swords that cut mountains in half so your point is invalid.

"Madara underestimated them because of his personality. Itachi's personality is completely different so not sure why they are being compared." He underestimated them because he thought he was fighting fodder, again look at the context.

"Hashriama blitzing itachi is nice, as it will allow him to seal hashi even quicker" What is this refuting? I'm pretty sure Madara can match Itachi in taijutsu completely considering he is a sage mode user and that's not how he fights. He is a mid to long range fighter with wood style. He would literally just use the justsu that creates a forest in an instant.

@QuakingStar Itachi is not fast enough to dodge Madara. Madara can dodge flying thunder god slashes even as a normal human with one eye. Itachi can no way dodge that. "You people need to stop overestimating aspects of Hashi and Madara and stop underestimating aspects of Itachi. Take your fucking bias out of the thread or simply don't comment." I'm not underestimating Itachi, he just simply isn't on their level of combat. If anything it's Kishimoto's fault for writing the characters the way they are. I'm using facts that show that Itachi is not even close to defeating either Hashirama or Madara on a one on one battle.