Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3394889-20140714191859/@comment-7292165-20140717193956

IRON4FINGERZ wrote: Yes rancin123 you are right. In terms of speed without chakra characters like rock lee and guy could be considered the fastest, but in the ninja world chakra does exist so it would be hard to not consider using chakra, rock lee and guy do use chakra to enhance their own speed, such as opening gates. But the FTG technique does also require chakra so it would have to be a discussion in terms of chakra based speed vs natural human speed. Which any technique requiring chakra would win. So naturally Minato is not the fastest shinobi. But it's also true that in a shinobi fight shinobi use chakra and that's where the big difference comes in. Minato is known as the fastest ninja using chakra based techniques regardless if it's an instantaneous teleport technique or not. Because those techniques also require the use of chakra. You can use chairs to enhance your speed duh but I'm talking about natural speed. Minato for all we could have average running feats but great reflexes. You don't say he's fast but that his reflexes are fast plus naturally reflexes are faster than your actual speed that's a fact. Stopping talking about enhancements cuz I'm not. Yes they take chairs I'm not stupid but natural speed is natural speed and enhanced speed such as Eight Gates or putting chakra on your feet is enhanced speed. Teleportation is teleportation thus not speed. Point blank Minato hasn't shown speed other than reflexes and that's only part of the whole. Keep this up if you want to this is getting annoying.