Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180528093116/@comment-33286580-20180531103202

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Again i was referring to his age range.. I also said Hokage Minato, that doesnt mean Minato would be stamping papers and giving orders.

Just... i have no words here.

You set the level and you yourself jump around the power levels of characters. i have nothing more to say.

Sasuke can only use skeletal Susanoo and that is all that matters to this vs.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

WOW, this is interesting..you say so because orochimaru was searching for it? and how does one add a spirit weapon onto one's will, what sealing jutsu does itachi know to do so? The sword of nunoboko is also a weapon, but can only be used by transforming the TSB into such, the same with Itachi..except his susanoo is special? Again no itachi, no totsuak...how can you give totsuka credit when it's needs a weilder in ordeer to use it?

the spirit weapon can be sealed inside the body like how biju are sealed or how Orochimaru actually has his Kusanagi stored inside his body.

it was clearly stated that Itachi found the sword and mirror. his Susanoo isnt special. it didnt come equiped with them.

how can anyone use them without Susanoo if you are wondering... just remember that Naruto uses Rasegan which is pure chakra and holds it in his palm, Sasuke can use CHidori to shape into a sword and use it as a real sword even when it is lightning which cannot be held. these are superhumans that defy logic.

it was Totsuka Blades abilities that sealed Orochimaru. Itachi just wielded, nothing more nothing less.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Thought we were talking about hiruzen ;_;

He is a part of Team Minato. so he is part of thinking up the plan up ahead. jeez

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Could've just said you're wrong, i provided more facts ;_o

you did not prove me wrong. you did not even provide facts. you provided the scene, which by the way shows that Izuna could not react to FTG. but despite of seeing the obvious you decide to come up with a theory that Izuna is weak shinobi. even when it was stated that he and Madara were top dogs in the Uchiha clan in the era.

the discussion was about Sharingan wielders not being able to counter FTG. if one of the top dogs from the war era couldnot stand upto FTG then there is no way anyone is going especially an improved and better one with Minato.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

'-'7 (post edited btw)

the main thread isnt. they still are written to have no Knowledge on Jiriaya.

Let's keep the debate assuming that if you want to.

because if you dont than at this point it will be like you want the Uchiha team to have all the advantage and win in the end.

if it is i dont see any reason debating anymore.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Alive madara vs TWO particle style users? they didnt try, because of plot, madara was important to the story, how would killing him help? ;_;

they were scared of him. and if you want to chalk it to plot than so be it. the fact is that Madara didnt take them seriously as he thought them beneath him and that is all that matters.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Mind stating atleast two speed feats of hiruzen... Amaterasu require's sign? besides flame control is a big deal here. To know if he's using amaterasu they have to look at the eyes to recognise the bleeding which is something they wont do '-'

Hiruzen arrived alongside the other Kage way before Sasuke on the battlefield in the war. or when Naruto was caught by the SHinju's branches and was having his chakra sucked the likes of Tobirama couldnt reach him yet Hiruzen did.

i also specifically said his counter skills with his jutsu.

the signs i mention arent hand signs but the bleeding eye.

indeed they can look into the eyes of their opponent. forgot what CHiyo said. all you need is a teammate to get you out of the Sharingan Genjutsu. and since they dont know of Tsukuyomi they really have no reason to fear the Uchiha