Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28136690-20160426210835/@comment-27823212-20160502211425

Marc Zaddy wrote: Good feats for them. How does that apply to Madara and Hashi? That's not transferable. A weaker, noncontrolled Obito already blitzed Hashi and Tobirama before, Hashi was at a loss for what to do against someone so clearly stronger than him. Plus, Obito was manhandling thrm the entire fight, right up until his resolve faultered. Which directly cost him the battle. He doesn't have to worry about here. Of course the feats are transferable. Madara was dodging Sasuke casually and they possess the same Choku Tomoe.

Obito didn't blitz anyone. Tobirama intentionally tagged him with a Hiraishin Seal and multiple explosive tags in the split second before Obito touched him instead of simply teleporting away.

In other words, Tobirama physically reacted to him about 5+ times when Obito was less than an arms distance away mid-rush.

It seems that you need to learn what a blitz is. A blitz is when someone is so fast that they close the gap between them and their opponent without them being able to react in any fashion.

That's not what Obito did. Both Hashirama & Tobirama can react to him, but there isn't any conceivable defense that they can put up against someone with such a potent offense in close quarters(Base Hashirama's clone can't at least) and his speed is such that they can't just side-step him casually in the same manner that Madara was doing to Sasuke.

In cqc against a Ten Tails' Jinchuriki, it's either put up a guard or get destroyed and the former likely isn't possible due to the natural Jinton effect of the truthseekers and it's straight up impossible when Onmyoudon is applied unless you have senjutsu. Hiruzen avoided a head strike at the last second, and still got hit, and this was by a weaker Obito. Later Obito was reacting to Minato and could attach a TSB to him before he could teleport away. Mindless Obito isn't slower than Controlled Obito. There isn't any feat or statement that supports that.

The only difference between them is that one bloats up randomly and the other doesn't due to Obito and the Ten Tails' fighting for control of one body. No, that was the actual Hashi, and only potenially. But Hashi cannot deal with four, which Obito would use. They would be helpless if he let off a TBB. Or, he could just blitz on through like he already did. Obito would seriously just blitz them like when he first appeared, and go on about his day. Hashirama's clone stated that it would lead all of Obito's Bijudama to sea with Jukai Koutan in tandem with the alliances earth walls. How are you telling me to reread the fight? That was not the original Hashirama saying this. The original Hashirama was in Sage Mode fighting Madara.

Replace the weak earth wall support with the Mokujin and you get that exact result considering that the Hachibi was able to hold back the Bijudama momentarily before Minato teleported it and the Mokujin>>>Hachibi in size and physical strength. Seriously, you do need to reread that fight. More like, Obito slaughters, and that really isn't debatable. Also, the arrogance of that statement is ugly. Check your ego. This isn't even arrogance. It's common sense. If you saw someone dedicated to the notion that Konohamaru>Kaguya, then you aren't going to treat them as if they have any sense of sanity. It's the exact same thing here. Your claims simply make no sense, yet you genuinely believe that they do.