Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20160126112547/@comment-5936871-20160129020150

MlGshinobi wrote: @Minato87 yea, under your logic kishimoto has no plot holes in his story since he is a perfect writer... . And that point you made is prrtty irrelevant to the debate either way.

@Legendary if izanami was a visual genjutsu how did it work on someone who was blind, ie sage mode kabuto. Know the difference betweeen dojustsu and visual genjutsu, they are two completely different things.under your logic the infinite tsyukyomi didnt work on blind people. Madara specifically said the light covered the world and no one could escape it. Like I said yata mirror is confirmed to negate any physical attack, spiritual or njinjustsu.so your personal opinion on what it cant block is moot. The shield can change any of its properties to adapt to an attack. Having the nature transformations and the ability to change any of its properties means it can be come omnidirectional if its needed to deflect the attack.

No im applying valid loigc to the scenario. It makes no sense for naruto and bee not to help considering they were gonna get trapped in it too. Its not that hard to understand. If itachi was by himself he just needs to throw yasaka matagama till the core explodes.... under your logic this is soo impossible lmao.

And no thats not how kotoamatsukami works. Its a genjutsu so powerful to the point it broke kabuto s strings and placed a new command on itachi. Its bascially mind control.That is not the same as just altering itachis 5 senses because koto is focusing on the strings from the puppet (kabuto), not itachi directly. If you create illusions on an edo tensi its irrelevant because the edo tensi caster, ie kabuto can see whats really going on his end and move the body remotely. No one casted genjustu on any edo tensi during the war at all.

Itachi can just amaterasu the summon nagato is on then seal nagato, the end. He might not even need to amaterasu just aim the sword at nagato before he takes flight Okay either I'm not being clear, you aren't understanding what I'm saying, or maybe both. Auditory genjutsu are genjutsu created through sound, visual genjutsu are genjutsu that are created through the usage of the eyes. What effects they cause don't really matter, it's how they are initiated. Jiraiya has demonstrated that auditory genjutsu work on Rinnegan users because it worked on one of Nagato's Pains and put it out of commission for a while. However, Kakashi Hatake and Itachi Uchiha, two very intelligent characters with the sharingan didn't even attempt to use their sharingan's visual genjutsu (requires eye contact or is initiated through the use of their eyes) on him. Itachi is one of the best if not the best visual genjutsu user and genjutsu specialist in the whole series in general and he didn't use his primary fighting style on Nagato. What does that tell you? Unless you have evidence that proves that Edo Tenseis are immune to genjutsu then saying that he didn't use it on Nagato because he was being controlled is moot.

No it isn't. The mirror is referring to elemental ninjutsu when it says that. It literally says it is imbued with all nature transformations to change it's characteristics to counter any attack whether it be physical or spiritual. It cannot be referring to literally any attack because not all attacks are classified as nature transformations. There is also absolutely no evidence whatsoever to say that it is omnidirectional.

Okay, the situation is that they're both on even ground on the opposite sides of a field. Itachi needs to actually reach Nagato first and get through his summons to actually seal him. His amaterasu is also not nearly as fast as Sasuke's is and he cannot use it on the same level since he lacks Kagutsuchi. Nagato himself can fly and absorb Itachi's amaterasu and knock the totsuka blade away with his deva path abilities as well as use his summons to keep Itachi at bay. He cannot easily fight through a dozen powerful summons, deal with an assault of mechanized weapons, and deal with chibaku tensei all at once and try to hit Nagato when he can fly away as well.