Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25907829-20150108212651/@comment-25977287-20150118012947

It's not iffy. The fastest ninja alive (Ay), said Minato was faster than him. Tobirama, the fastest ninja of his time said minato had better shunshin than him.

1. I just posted an image where it literally states that you're bound to learn amazing ninjutsu and taijutsu. Hiraishin maneuvers are all taijutsu. Even the databook regards moves like hiraishingiri as taijutsu. Natural speed and reflexes also comes into play. When you can attack your oppoenent so fast and evade all their hits, that also ties in with taijutsu. He fights close combat in order to defeat his opponents. If you aren't good in taijutsu, then that isn't possible.

2. Explain how he teleported to baby naruto. How is that possible. There was no marking on naruto, minato had never held his son before that either. There was no kunai across the room. How can you call that teleportation. It was pure shunshin.

3. Minato didn't teleport to kakashi. Kakashi may have had the kunai, but minato certainly didn't teleport to it. Even the rock ninja is dazzled by minatos movement. He even strictly calls it "movement". Meaning he saw minato move, not teleport. The high speed movement symbol is also used to show minatos movement speed there as well. The next page you even see minato do it again, notice how he shunshind back to where his team was so fast, again kishi uses the high speed movement symbol to indicate fast motion. The same distance took kakashi several panels and a couple pages to run. When minato finally does use hiraishin, Rin makes note of it and is amazed at the speed. If minato used hiraishin before, why is she only shocked then. The rock ninja also didn't recognise minato until after he used hiraishin. When minato used shunshin before, he didn't think much of it. But when minato used hiraishin, that's how he knew who he was dealing with.

4. You're not regarded as the fastest ninja of your time, to only have a 3 or 3.5.

5. If you're the fastest, why would he not have a max score? Itachi has a 5, Guy has a 5, genin lee has a 4, and then 4.5 as a chunin, orochimaru has 4.5 yet has no speed feats. Yet minato has a 4, that completely goes against being the fastest and against the manga. The 4th databook even states: Praised among all ninja as the greatest in god-like speed. It doesn't get more clear than this.