Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20160310084128/@comment-734582-20160310123411

SuperSaiyaMan wrote: So apparently Naruto and Sasuke got weaker (hahahaha, yeah right that doesn't make sense), how does Hashirama do against Toneri Otsutsuki? A bit weaker, yes, but still ridiculously strong.

SuperSaiyaMan wrote: So...can Hashirama win against basically a Juubi Jin? Again Naruto defeated him, rather handily...but can Hashirama do it? Yea no, Naruto didn't defeat him. If it wasn't for Hinata getting Hamura's chakra, Naruto would've been defeated very hard.

Seeing as Hashirama uses large AOE jutsu and Toneri basically one-ups him in that department (or shall i say, hundred-ups him), he gets defeated at his own game. And if jutsu fails, Toneri drains him of his chakra and wins anyway, because Hamura's chakra can only block that. And better yet, Toneri doesn't even need physical contact to drain it.