Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-38643585-20190226232154/@comment-35409024-20190304225427

Vladosaurus wrote: Prime Hanzo simply has the “prime Hiruzen” complex, where we really how no exact idea of how powerful he actually was.

We do because Shinobi who we know are powerful tell us how powerful they are because of their experience. Series beats skepticism. When Hanzo beat the Saninn they were around twenty five as shown by Seelantau's timeline. The mere fact it wasn't just them but some of the Konoha force, with only the Sannin permitted to live by Hanzo, explains how powerful he once was. You saying they were not at their prime is your headcanon and is a poor counter since you have no idea what age they reached their peaks. The only one you can make an argument for is maybe Orochimaru. Jiraiya made it very clear that he considered it "unbelievable" (his word exactly) that anyone can take on Hanzo alone. Nagato and Mifune both made it clear the reason Hanzo lost to them was due to his lost of conviction and how he fell off. You saying his prime is based off these showings when these actual characters literally tell us he pales in comparison to his prime and actually have fought him where as you have not nor witnessed it and have no link to the series whatsoever is pure blip. Where is your proof that Hanzo is as weak as you claim cause the series says otherwise? The only Shinobi capable of surviving all three Sannin accompanied by some of a Shinobi force, can be counted on one maybe two hands.