Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26636534-20160527151459/@comment-27924662-20160610092704

Thekillman wrote: It's not a plothole. Not everything is a plothole.

I agree that with enough time Kabuto may have been able to retrieve him. But like i've said for.. i think this is number four so like i've said for four times, there's was a time restriction.

Jiraiya died, for whatever reason his body sunk to the bottom. Kabuto discovered Jiraiya was at the bottom, realized he had little chance of recovery with the war looming and all and moved to his next target. We don't even know the timing of the Edo Tensei he found, for all we know this was the point Black Zetsu told him of Madara's body and he abandoned a mere sennin for a god.

Reverse summoning is questionable. Is it possible to summon anything under any circumstances? Gamabunta could refuse to be summoned, and Jiraiya had rods which are controlled by Nagato. Would Nagato be able to force Jiraiya to deny this summon?

Trackers are questionable here, since they would stumble on the same problems as Kabuto.

chapter 383 shows clearly the large rods dragging Jiraiya down into the depths. Sea is something which surrounds the land mass not surrounded by land masses............... Trackers shouldn't have same problem since they don't have the time constraint which kabuto had. though the depth could be a problem. Besides I didn't say any where they didn't had time restriction infact I agreed to It the very first time. Overall I wasn't very happy with the flaws and inconsistencies with jiraiya 's death.