Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32713358-20170729055604/@comment-5085906-20170730195242

Crazylazyguy wrote: And how did Itachi know this story in the first place? What? Obito told him? As far as we know Itachi made the entire thing up "The two brothers obtained the Mangekyou and became the leaders of the Uchiha clan", yeah right as far as I can remember only Madara was a leader, not both of them.

'''What story did Hashirama touch upon? Are we reading the same Manga?''' All Hashirama said, was that Madara "deeply cared for his brother", then a few episodes later he told Sasuke "you remind me of Madara's brother who he deeply cared about" and that's it. How is this even remotely close to Itachi's story, about "2 brothers raising in power and becoming leaders"? Itachi's a well-read guy and that entire story took place in the war that led to the creation of the village system. People write about significat wars like that, especially about important figureheads like Madara and Izuna. Besides, his statue is built in the outskirts of Konoha - someone oughta have said at one point 'I want to know that guy's story'. Alternatively, yeah, Obito posing as Madara could have told him that story.

Also, evidently we're not reading the same manga 'cause chapter 620-624 cover Hashirama's and Madara's story perfectly well. At no point did Hashirama contradict Itachi's story except, as I mentioned, the whole 'killed his brother to take his eyes' thing which was either A) added by Itachi to provide justification for his actions to a slightly-grown Sasuke who was beginning to see some holes in his 'I killed the entire clan to test my skills' bullshit or B)was a misconception provided by either Tobi or by whatever history book that he got that story from. And seriously, why would Itachi lie about Izuna having Mangekyou Sharingan?

As for this fight, I'd give it to Madara. I'm not even sure Itachi's genjutsu would work on him what with how roided out his eyes are due to Hashirama's cells.