Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33229263-20171019104931/@comment-734582-20171023072448

LegionZero wrote: Hamura didnt get his SPS from the Juubi...... so say what you want but this points to SPS being somewhere within them. We have two confirmed cases of a Juubi Jinchuriki getting TSB's upon becoming said jinchuriki and Naruto gained them when he had 9 biju in him. Whatever happened to Hamura exactly, the scene were Hago and Hamu seal the Juubi shows they have no TSB's, and Hagoromo became Juubi Jin right after. So the logical thing is that Hagoromo got them from the Juubi.

It's not clear at all how Hamura got his power. He didn't have Tenseigan during the Juubi fight, so for all we know Hagoromo shared some of his power with him. Or he studied and got some power from the Gedo. or the power present in the moon transformed him by itself. But the fact that Hamura obtained his power apparently so late removes him from the equation: Whatever the case and regardless of what way he obtained his power and whether it's a natural one, we can say with certainty that Hagoromo got it from the Juubi.

LegionZero wrote: Ashura was born with the Hagoromo's body but he has no horns and eyebrows.

And regardless if he can shoose who gets what power, giving all of his power to Ashura, like he said he did, would give Ashura the Rinnegan by your theory/rules on how his power works. But that is not what happened So Hagoromo's body doesn't literally mean his body and his eyes doesn't literally mean his eyes, but hagoromo's power literally means all power including the rinnegan?

LegionZero wrote: Now considering that Rinnegan is dormant in the eye without Hagoromo's 6 Paths chakra, this would make the statement about Indra recieving Hagoromo's eyes true. I think the point of that statement was that the Sharingan is also Hagoromo's eye, since neither Rinnegan nor Sharingan existed independently of each other until Hagoromo.

LegionZero wrote: If it was as simple as only having Hagoromo's chakra Black Zetsu would have brought him any pair of eyes from the battlefield so he would have 2 Rinnegan from the moment of his resurrection, but instead they went through all the trouble of getting Madaras original eyes back. He didn't go through that much trouble to get his eye back, considering that he obtained the first one within minutes from Zetsu. Besides, it wouldn't be smart to keep those eyes lying about since they are quite powerful, and would be easily used against them.

Secondly, i don't think that's how it works because his eyes are still a physical flesh, and a random eye from the battlefield wouldn't have the genes to manifest or support this power. I likened the Ashura+Indra=Hagoromo to Nine Biju+Gedo= Juubi because it seems to work similar: Combining these chakras causes an actual transformation that unlocks new power not present in the individual powers. If Madara had put Hashirama's flesh in his little toe, it would still cause a transformation in his entire body (eventually), making all his cells of the "hagoromo" type. Madara could absorb Ninjutsu even without the Rinnegan, something he shouldn't be able to do if he merely activated a KKG in his eyes.