Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31338621-20190129080042/@comment-9782468-20190206022923

@BRainBrand,

Using up a Sharingan when the entire clan was dead and there were no more Sharingan users being born was reckless. He underestimated Konan. And like Obito said to Minato when he left, he still had other avenues to conquer the world. He had other plans. He still ended up devastating the Leaf and losing them one of their finest Kage.

Chaining him was a valid strategy, since it immobilized him and stopped a possible counterattack from Minato lol, what aren't you getting?

Oh I forgot he had the kunai. In any case, like @Mindforged said, the panel included the visual cues that are only ever shown with Body Flicker and never FTG. So, I'm inclined to believe it's FTG given the lack of text cues. Minato has already shown he's capable of those kind of speeds on his own when he caught baby Naruto.

@Flatzone, Itachi vs Konoha Jonin had almost no intelligence feats at all. It just showed how much he outclassed them at the time in terms of abilities. Konoha's best Genjutsu user? Just reverse it against her. Konoha's best Ninjutsu user? Beat him in Jutsu speed. Konoha's best Sharingan user? Decimate him with the Sharingan. Itachi didn't outsmart any of them, he just overpowered them in the abilities they were supposed to excel at. In fact, Itachi used regular jutsu against Kakashi with a feint but failed to get Kakashi, only hitting him when Kakashi had to save Kurenai. Itachi is a smart fighter, but that fight wasn't an intelligence showcase, it was an ability and power showcase.

Against Sasuke, Itachi did direct the fight very well, I agree. To be fair though, Sasuke did surprise him a few times, like when he used Kirin. If not for Susanoo, Itachi was dead.

Jiraiya also figured out they had shared vision with no prior intel. Not saying they aren't smart, I'm saying that it doesn't take super high intelligence to figure it out. Hitting them from their blind spots is very impressive, but that's a shurikenjutsu feat, not an intelligence feat.

Figuring out Chibaku Tensei is a stretch. He had no clue the mechanics, so he said "hit the thing with all you've got." That's not figuring the technique out, that's throwing an idea out there lol. Something is causing lots of destruction and you're getting pulled to it? Obviously try to destroy it.

Itachi can't properly use Izanami on Minato because he doesn't suffer from the issues that Kabuto did. Kabuto couldn't acknowledge the real result of his actions, similar to Izanagi abusers. That's why he was able to get caught. Whereas Minato doesn't have that issue. Izanami is a very specific Genjutsu for a very specific type of people.

Sure, Minato can't dominate the battle like with Ay or Obito. But he'd easily be the strongest opponent that Itachi ever faced (that we've seen). You downplay Obito a lot too. Itachi needed Obito to complete the Uchiha massacre. Not only that, Obito, upon just awakening his Mangekyo, killed dozens of Jonin and Anbu easily. Then, he easily killed the Anbu that Minato chose to protect his own wife while she gave birth. Obito is no slouch. He had Hashi cells too.