Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-30168130-20170319171713/@comment-734582-20170412101938

Ancladar wrote: Right deaths for deaths sake are obnoxious. While this is true, i think that there are a number of characters that (at least in the manga) served their purpose. I think this is also why people reacted so negatively to Neji, because it felt like he hadn't served his purpose yet.

Starscream1998 wrote: I can definitely agree that the whole Naru-Jesus shtick does get a bit grating after a while. It's not the shtick itself that gets old, it's that there's no real counter-argument to criticism despite the fact that you can think of several. IE, the hellish situation of the Ninjaverse is mostly because people expect it to be hell, expect their enemies to be savages and so everything is fair and justified because everyone expects everyone else to do the same. It's one big self-fulfilling prophecy. Naruto could've pointed this out to Obito, that people die because he chose to kill them, that he sees only hell because he expects it to be hell, and that if he had chosen to use his power for good he could've done a lot of good.

Similarly, despite wanting peace, Madara was perfectly willing to fight dirty to achieve his goal, despite the fact that it's this dirt that creates the hatred that fuels war. It was also a perfectly legitimate counterargument that despite the fact that there was war, there was an objectively less amount of war since Kaguya and even less since the formation of Villages. Besides, Hashirama wished children to have a chance to grow up in safety as his life-time goal, which he succeeded at.

Kiadony wrote: In Naruto however, we get a lot of preaching, but as the series went, the impact was lost. Exactly. Conversion through Violence became too common.