Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180806113144/@comment-5407586-20180806204737

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Soloking itachi15 wrote: Madara wins,more skill and experience. Madara's mangekyou can easily control the 6 tailed state naruto Doesn't that state have like zero consciousness?..i doubt genjutsu would work o.O

@Mr.Grave....@Johnny....we'll be using shown abilites,feats of MS madara. (stage 2 susanoo, katon,etc) If Sasuke could enter Naruto's subconscious to suppress Kurama's chakra even with only the 3 tomoe Sharingan, I don't see why Madara with the Mangekyō Sharingan couldn't do the same.

MS Madara's feats were never shown. All of his Susanoo forms were shown with him using EMS. All we can say about MS Madara is that he had strong Katon and high level taijutsu-genjutsu, but that's it.