Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3365837-20160805011327/@comment-25218206-20160809160451

GreatestSin wrote: "but overall more powerful =/= being more powerful in every stat, for example, if you compare guy and itachi im sure guy is a lot faster and better in taijutsu, but overall itachi is a lot stronger, the same with kaguya, we cant simply say she is the fastest without having anything to sclae it to, and unfortunatly the comparison with the "fang-jutsu dodging" doesnt work, afterall he only needed to move his body down a bit (plus he has precognition which means he could have very well moved down before madara even attacked), this doesnt mean it is the same for his overall movement or even close range speed, what i wantto say is that kaguya didnt show any noteworthy speed feats, ergo, she isnt that fast even if she is without any doubt the strongest char in the series..."

Well what makes you think that Madara is faster?? The only things we see in the manga are that Base SPSM Naruto with no chakra cloak can keep up with 1 eyed Shinjuless Madara and SPSM Naruto + chakra cloak is capable of dodging Madara's light fang point blank. Madara was also starting to get overwhelmed but Kaguya when she wasn't weakened was fighting them both at the same time casually with no trouble.....Also Momoshiki who can keep up with Adult Naruto and Sasuke while 4th War is already faster than Madara, and Kaguya should still be faster than Momoshiki is.......She was stated to be on an entirely different level and while you correct that doesn't always mean that she's faster, their are characters that are stronger than Madara (Momoshiki) but still massively inferior to Kaguya. Their is no proof that someone massively weaker than Kaguya is faster than her...

The gap between Madara and Kaguya is massive. Kaguya's speed >> Adult Naruto = Adult Sasuke = Momoshiki > Rinne-Sharingan Madara >>>> 1 eyed Shinju less Madara who can see Might Gai bend space...

"You are annoying. And you probably didn't hear for surprise in a battle."

Insults don't win aruguments. Also if your trying to say Naruto only ripped Kaguya's hand off because she was 'surprised' by Sasuke that's not the case here lol. Sasuke distraced Kaguya THEN Zetsu laughs at Obito's death, THEN is when Naruto blitzs and rips her hand off.......