Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-26636534-20160303125533

QuakingStar wrote: ...Jiraiya did try to defeat Oro when Oro was leaving to join Akatsuki. He lost. Point blank. As I said, trying to stop someone from escaping and fighting them full out is two different scenarios. Jiraiya was only stated to fail at the former not the latter.

@MIGshinobi

Calling someone delusional just because they don't use your interpretation is quite childish. Though I don't agree with you, that is not the reason I called you seemingly biased, that was because you deliberately tried to deny/downplay facts by saying your assumptions trump facts. Saying all Susanoo have the same durability is just an assumption, what do you base that off? I still don't know why you are using just a regular rasengan in your comparison, I was talking about the UBBR. There was evidence that Itachi himself was hurt, ch 391 pg 15 Itachi's left arm is damaged(right arm was injured by Sasuke's fire style jutsu) and his akatsuki cloak is gone, so Kirin got through some stage of Susanoo to damage him. Baseless?, nope.

Also, what are your thoughts about the opening stages of the fight?

@ShiShiheiwa

Hahaha, are you really starting with that again. Even though your accusations against me turned out to be bs. Here is Sasuke using blaze release without a charge up, ch 632 pg 19. So which of my points are baseless now? Please give evidence for your point of Jiraiya not being able to defeat Orochimaru. Still waiting for you to answer my previous questions.