Talk:Narutopedia

So, I was wondering...
Okay, I want to find the pieces of information from the Fanbooks/Databooks. Is there any way to search, for example "First Fanbook", and get all the pages that have "First Fanbook" in their refferences?Patsoumas1995 (talk) 12:49, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Movie jutsu?
Why aren't the jutsus from the movies added in the infobox? Patsoumas1995 (talk) 23:17, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's because movies are one of the least canon media for this franchise and they, like the games, tend to take a lot of liberties with the characters. So in order to get some level of streamline/uniformity they're omitted from the infoboxes.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 23:25, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

How can I search, for example, Naruto's jutsus from the movies (or the video games)? Patsoumas1995 (talk) 23:33, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * In his infobox, you can click "jutsu" which will carry you to a drilldown of all his techniques. You can customise that page to search for all the jutsu from whichever movie it is that you want (I think) or you can just go to the movie's article and see the list of techniques.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 23:41, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Patsoumas1995 (talk) 23:48, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Kekkei Genkai symbols
Would it mind if we would add the nature transformation or kekkei genkai symbols in the pages as well? I think it would add more flair to some pages, as they're quite empty (like Steel or Swift release, for example). Derigar (talk) 05:32, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Images are added to page only when those have enough text to balance them out. Those two are quite short pages. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:14, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * How about other releases? Or Shikotsumyaku or even the 5 basic nature transformations? Derigar (talk) 15:01, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Also short pages, and they have images already. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:51, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Templates
Hi... So, I am starting a new wiki, a fanon wiki for the anime Magico, and I wanted to know how did you guys do that whole TagSync thing to obtain the infoboxes. Is it something manual or do I go somewhere and get it done?

Davidchola2 (talk) 17:33, April 22, 2012 (UTC)Davidchola2

Episodes
why are episodes 257 - 260 of naruto shippuden repeats from the original naruto series? 99.230.116.201 (talk) 18:34, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

They are called "Filler episodes". As you have probably noticed each episode consists of several chapters, and they both come weekly. If the episodes followed only the main plot, it would come to a moment where there weren't more chapters to animate. Filler arcs are the necessary time for manga to escape the anime. Hope you understood. --Vecanoi (talk) 20:44, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

They are more likely "recap episodes" not filler episodes.

Spoilers
I know the front page says: "Be warned that the wiki is filled with SPOILERS about the Naruto series, read at your own risk." but for example there's currently the Edo Madara picture in "new files" ... one could not read the manga and just look at a description of a technique for example, and spoil it all for him/her by seeing material and things that have not yet appeared/were not revealed in the anime. Should not we make some spoiler protection like information that's not yet portrayed in anime would be "hidden" under "spoilers" tag or something ?--Elveonora (talk) 00:21, May 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * You said it yourself; we tell people this wiki is full of spoilers, read at your own risk. No need to go through the hassle of separating info with spoiler tags and the like when we've already warned users what to expect.--TheUltimate3 Uzumaki Symbol.svg (talk) 00:42, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations, the wiki is much more enjoyable with the new style. Now it seems she is more current. I bet everyone loved this new style. --JoaoKrauss (talk) 03:26, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

I agree, I like the new style. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:20, June 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree, the new homepage looks much more modern than the old one that appeared as though nobody had touched it since 2005. --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:38, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Somewhat Like Bar Thingy
Should we change the color of the somewhat like 'bar' like the "poll" bar there? Should the color match with the color of the "Rules" 'bar'? —IndxcvNovelist (talk 16:37, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Links for Characters and Jutsu
I think we should change the links for the characters and jutsu part of the slideshow on the main page. To me, it would nicer looking if we linked it to an actual page. the jutsu one is obvious this one. I don't know if we have a good one for characters and the only one I can think of using is this but it doesn't have a link to any character pages like the one we already have. Joshbl56 19:02, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * That could work. It's just a round-about way to end up at the same page though. The only issue is linking to the shinobi article when everyone in Naruto isn't a shinobi.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 19:53, June 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like the links to the browsedata, makes it more in their face that wikia hasn't fixed things yet... — S im A nt 20:49, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Main page redesign
I'm totally not affiliated with this Wiki, but I must say, when looking at the main page I was totally astonished with how much it had changed. In a good way! I just wanna say: "Good job! :D". 23:46, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you should be praised for making a such good innovation in your Wiki. Keep the good work, Narutopedia guys. (way to go, Cerez-san!) Guilherme Abe 02:46, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Loool you treacherous fart Abe. The wiki thanks you all.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:24, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

What I like about this wiki
Guys, I am gonna state one of the things about Narutopedia I like the most. You tell the entire saga of the character in the series in their pages. In some other wikis, you have to go to each episode or chapter to know what happened next. Its very economical.Undominanthybrid (talk) 17:20, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Road to Naruto chapter
Hi is anyone going post information from that road to naruto chapter? I think that it shows a deeper understanding with the characters interactions and personalities, especially Hinata.
 * Road to Naruto The Movie. --93.87.181.237 (talk) 15:16, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

naruto / nartuo: shippuden pic
Hey, I was wondering if it's possible to make a buttom (like the manga-anime buttoms) just with Naruto and Naruto: shippuden pictures? so that you don't have to go down the page to see the difference in the charecters. And of course only with those that have made a difference in aperrance.--Kasan94 (talk) 19:26, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you be a little more specific about these "buttons"? —White Flash. 19:28, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well you know the buttons there are at some pics (not many any more), but there are some where you can shift the main picture of the page, between Anime pic, and manga pic. I'll try and find a page that have it. --Kasan94 (talk) 20:36, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Darui --Kasan94 (talk) 20:36, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean tabs. Possible? Yes. Will we do it? No. It's been long established that we show the character as that character was introduced. This means part 1 images for part 1 characters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:03, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohh tabs will remember that. To bad then. --Kasan94 (talk) 20:09, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it would be a great idea to include both pre- and post-timeskip versions of characters on their pictures, utilising the tabs feature. Both the One Piece and Bleach Wikis on Wikia do so with their timeskips, and neither of the series are even divided into "parts" like Naruto is. I think it would more accurately portray the characters, while still being able to portray them as they were introduced. You could even default it to the Part 1 pictures, if it means that much to you. Just provide a tab to the Part 2 version, in addition.--ScruffyC (talk) 20:50, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, finally someone agrees with me :) Yeah that was my exact idea as well, but gues it isn't going to happen. --Kasan94 (talk) 19:38, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Filterable jutsu/characters
What happened to filterable characters/jutsu? 31.63.191.250 (talk) 14:21, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably a bug due to the upgrade. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 14:22, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. It is either a problem on their end due to the upgrade, or on our end. If it's on Wikia's they have to fix whatever it is they broke. If it's on our end, we have to wait for Simant to come in use his Coding Magic to fix it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 14:24, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * But it was working till now. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 14:31, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK guys, thanks for very fast reply! I hope they will bring back this option soon, because it was very useful to me. 31.63.191.250 (talk) 14:40, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

New infobox issue
So that we don't get people posting the same thing on all the pages, in light of the new infobox issue (i don't know how long it will last) is there a way we can make a general announcement or message to let all the readers know that we're aware of the situation etc? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 17:49, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, something has been done.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:50, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Narutopedia?? narutowiki?? Eddy wijaya (talk) 07:47, August 10, 2012 (UTC)eddy wijaya
 * What? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:36, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to do those detailed searches where you can browse characters by gender, loyalty, classification, so on and so forth. The part where choose that is missing so is there something broken on the site? Mac
 * Yes. Site is broken due to an update. Hopefully the issue will be resolved soon.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:28, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Cerez, do you have any idea when the type icons are going to be restored? Thanks mate :) Derigar (talk) 17:36, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * That would require compatibility between the MediaWiki engine version 1.19 and the negref extension used in that part of the infobox. I don't know if the extension is actively developed, or if there is something in Wikia's end that can be changed to restore compatibility. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is hardly anything that wikia can do imo. 01:02, August 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm confused. Does this mean that every symbol entering that box will become glitched, or only the one's we're using currently? Derigar (talk) 16:56, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to do with the image, but with the way the image is inserted in the infobox. For example, the Lava Release icon should appear twice in the Mizukage's infobox, once in the kekkei genkai field, and once in the nature transformation field. It shows up in the first, but not in the second. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:28, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Mess on Kurama's page
Thier is a major problem on Kurama's page.
 * There is a major problem everywhere. Sign your posts please.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:46, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Poll Results
Where can we see them? 201.67.96.82 (talk) Hellooooo.175.110.230.134 (talk) 16:43, March 3, 2013 (UTC)Saadoo
 * Nowhere as such.~ Ultimate  Supreme  16:48, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Character Tabs
so I have been seeing some people ask for the profile pictures of the characters to be updated to the Shippuden ones and they have been told no because you guys want the picture of when the character was first introduced so that everyone would know who it is which is understandable but my question is if maybe you could make like a Original Series Picture Tab showing them from the Original Series and then a Shippuden Tab showing there picture from Shippuden (or if you will a Pre-timeskip and Post-timeskip button) so that the characters can be represented in both forms in case the Shippuden form is more known than the Original for someone or whatever (I know the Bleach Wiki does this and I have seen a few other Wikis that do like a Pre-Timeskip and Post-Timeskip tab for there characters to show changes that have occured during the x amount of years that went by in the media [in this case 2 1/2 years]. to put it more simply (I know that was long and somewhat confusing) basically a tab that contains the original Naruto series Picture (like 12-13 year old Naruto) and then a Post-Timeskip Tab (featuring a picture of 15-16 year old Naruto) that way both forms are there in the picture section and people can change it at will to suit whichever form they are more familiar with. just a thought. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 23:23, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * This wiki's said no to that for a while now. It's not going to kill anyone to scroll down a bit to see a "post-timeskip" image.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:33, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

can I ask why besides "it wont kill someone to scroll down to see the picture" that you wont do it because that doesnt really answer the question or say anything against it. it kinda seems like you are saying "we are lazy and dont want to do something that may take a little bit of time but will improve the site". I would like a legitimate answer to the question other than your proposed "we are lazy and dont want to do it" answer.

I am not trying to be or sound rude I am just stating an opinion.Lordofninjas1 (talk) 17:25, September 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * So why there are Manga and Anime tabs, not just one image? It wouldn't kill anyone to scroll down a bit to see a Manga/Anime version... Falnin (talk) 19:50, September 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * When the anime catches up to some event of the manga, we usually replace the manga image with the anime one. However, sometimes the anime does a botched job in showing something the way the anime did. That could be big things or small things. In those cases, we put both images. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:51, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with "Lordofninjas1" here; it wouldn't kill you to put tabs on! You could even default it to the pre-timeskip image, if it means that much to you. That way, characters could more accurately be portrayed, AND could be portrayed as they were introduced. It makes more sense, and both the One Piece and Bleach wikis on Wikia display pre- and post-timeskip versions of their characters! And those series aren't even divided into a "Part 1" and "Part 2" like the Naruto manga! --ScruffyC (talk) 20:49, September 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * We're not the One Piece or Bleach Wiki. This is the Narutopedia. However, I have to agree that I can't see what the issue is adding both images, other than people being lazy. >_> --Speysider Talk Page 21:03, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

So, Lordofninjas1 and ScruffyC in the same way it wouldn't kill us to do that, would it kill you to scroll down the article to see Part II images? Because I've yet to see either of you answer that question regardless of whether or not the people here are lazy. I don't recall coming here to answer to every whim of a reader. It's called compromise: learn some. Next I suppose people will be asking for an image of how people look as Edo Tensei or maybe we should just chuck the child, adolescence and old age pictures up there too. God forbid Kishimoto does another time skip on us or even worse that people spend two second to scroll...--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 11:28, September 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, it doesn't kill me to scroll down. I don't even care about that. I already know what characters look like in Part 2. But I think characters would be more accurately portrayed if we included both. I just don't see why not. I can see why we SHOULD, and I don't see any reason why we shouldn't. Therefore... the pros outweigh the cons (if there are any at all), the way I see it. And if the pros outweigh the cons, I think the decision should be made. --ScruffyC (talk) 00:58, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Spoiler tag please
I know this is your guys website and it warns against spoilers on the front page, I do not read the manga i can not get into black and white and i went to look up something about the hokage monument and had tobis identity spoiled for me in the trivia section.. Don't you guys think if you are going to have a massive spoiler like that to cover it up with one of those *SPOILER* things you click and then it shows the spoiler... Like i said i know it warns of spoilers on front page but that would really help... Basically had the last WTF moment of shippuden ruined for me because its ending soon :(


 * Wiki's don't have things called spoiler tags, those kind of things are found on forums and if we had a spoiler tag, we might as well put every single page in one. This wiki quite clearly says that there is spoilers so why would we hide spoilers ? --Speysider Talk Page 18:42, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Everybody is at a different point in the series, it would require either putting tags on every single section or we could just warn you at the front door. — S im A nt 18:58, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Content can in fact be wrapped in spoiler tags. Howeber, I've seen first hand what that can do to a wiki and its worse than just seeing stuff right in front of you. That being said, if you're coming to a wikipedia, you should expect to see spoilers.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk)21:44, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Age Differentiation
how come that when you go to the page of kakashi you'll see that he was six when he became a chunnin but when you go to the page of obito you'll see that obito was nine when he participated the chunnin exam and that kakashi was promoted to chunnin after defeating might guy but they are the same age right? so who's story is correct?

Dogla91--178.85.68.163 (talk) 10:07, September 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Because Kakshi was six and Obito was nine.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:12, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

German Naruto-Wiki
Hello, this is the German Naruto-Wiki:

http://de.naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Narutopedia

Please link us --188.100.78.163 (talk) 16:08, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * For some reason, adding the interlink wiki isn't working. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you do that in the past? I thought you have to request it here.~ 01:10, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Never knew you had to request it. As far as I knew, all that was necessary was to add the code like there is for the current interlanguage links we have. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:34, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now One of the CC admins will take care of it.~ 02:58, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now its done.--~ 09:14, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Error on mainpage
It's not over 4,785 articles, it's exactly 4,785 articles. Dinai (talk) 18:36, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The wiki is more than its content articles, it's also the talk pages and filterable lists (though those are regrettably broken at the moment). And that is standard text generated by the wiki engine, it's not something that we can overwrite, as far as I know. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:06, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Tsunade and Naruto related
I was wondering how come Naruto never mentions that he's related to Tsunade, since Mito Uzumaki is Tsunade's grandmother and Naruto is Mito's grandson? SageModeBeatsEMS (talk) 19:11, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because it hasn't been stated that Naruto's mother Kushina was related to Mito. They just came from the same clan. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:19, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Hyuga members
I know some of you don't really like unknown character pages, which is why i have made this page: []. What I wanna ask of you, is if might could get some better pics for these members, and also if you spot someone new. --Kasan94 (talk) 20:41, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * If any one you can get better quality pictures of those i use it would be great. You can see them in my profile, if your are interested. --Kasan94 (talk) 19:26, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Idea
Idea for next poll, "What is your favorite Kekkei Genkai (Or Tōta), Zelwolf (talk) 05:04, October 27, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf

Been about three months and stuff is still trashed.
Well... It's been since August that the missing pages have been gone. Doesn't seem like anything is going to be done about it...74.129.219.89 (talk) 10:24, November 6, 2012 (UTC)Rits
 * There is nothing we can do about it.—
 * I am very unfortunately aware of that.74.129.219.89 (talk) 12:07, November 6, 2012 (UTC)Rits
 * Thats great.—

Thoughts about jutsus and chakra natures
I wonder whether it should always be written, for example, that if one can use Wood Release, then he can use also Earth Release and Water Release; or, for another example, that Rinnegan bearers can use all of the five basic nature transformations (it was told in a myth, and the fact that the Bashōshen allows to use all the five basic nature transformations seems to tell us that the Sage of Six Paths could use all five natures only through it). I'd instead say "presumed" right near it, since the fact that one has what is required in order to use a technique doesn't mean he/she has learned to do it.--JOA20 (talk) 21:42, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * To use an advanced nature, you need to use both the basic ones at the same time. Rinnegan allows you to use all basic nature transformations, but it doesn't automatically grants them, one must still learn to use them. Only the Sage, who discovered the mysteries of chakra, and Nagato, who was explicitly mentioned to have mastered them, are listed as having all basic nature transformations. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:30, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand. Thanks for answering.--JOA20 (talk) 06:53, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Typo on the main page.
On the newest anime section on the main page, it says "On their way there, they confess their love for each other and decide to get married in they survive." Is the "in" suppose to be a "if"? Zelwolf (talk) 03:14, January 12, 2013 (UTC)Zelwolf
 * Thanx for the info. Omnibender fixed it. ~ Ultimate  Supreme  06:50, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Manga
So i was wondering, where do you all read manga? the site im using now is crap. And Since im already asking, where do you watch anime? --Kasan94 (talk) 11:33, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

If you have an iPhone you can get the app"Manga Reader" to read the manga. Use Crunchy Roll to watch the anime. Zelwolf (talk) 02:03, January 16, 2013 (UTC)Zelwolf

Avoid posting links to scanlation site. The whole deal with them not being legal and all. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hidan's death?
Just a quick question for those who watch the anime, in the filler episodes Chikara Power, was Hidan reanimated? I was quite confused by that because I thought Hidan could not die and was..well, still stuck inside the ground dismembered.

Also, could someone else explain to me how developed Kabuto's reanimation jutsu was up to that point in time? Danke ^-^--Dokku (talk) 01:19, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Read Hidan's article. Basically, Kabuto cloned him. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:33, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Fan voted stats addition
This wiki here has a good idea, they have the official stats and the fans voted stats together.. I think we should incorporate this idea into this wiki. 173.66.119.89 (talk) 12:34, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Which wiki?~ Ultimate  Supreme  12:36, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fanwork is not allowed on this wiki. Only official stuff will be noted.94.135.138.160 (talk) 12:58, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

True, I forgot about that.. 173.66.119.89 (talk) 13:54, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Malware detected?
Is there a reason that everytime I come to this site, Google Chrome gives me a malware warning?

Danger: Malware Ahead! Google Chrome has blocked access to this page on naruto.wikia.com. Content from us.bernerverein.ch, a known malware distributor, has been inserted into this web page. Visiting this page now is very likely to infect your computer with malware.

You guys should really look into this. As a result, I'm never visiting the site from my personal computer.--EnkiduV3 (talk) 21:50, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I'm using Google Chrome, too. I don't have any problems, but I'm sure the admins will look into it.-- Ninja Sheik  21:52, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

That's a virus on your part reporting false viruses--Elveonora (talk) 22:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

I did some testing on my PC, all virus scans came up clean but I did notice something odd. The malware warning doesn't come up when I turn on adblocker. I usually have it turned off to support the streamers and sites that I visit frequently. This leads me to believe the warning could be reacting to an ad on this site.--EnkiduV3 (talk) 23:13, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

What Elveonora-shi said is probably right. I got a Trojan last year, that did the same thing to me. Trojans get into your security system and turn it against itself to get to your information and other personal stuff. They'll say that your system is clean but all the sites you're going to have viruses and stuff. I suggest you go to a professional to clean out your PC completely to get the Trojan out.71.71.58.231 (talk) 23:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan

Reinstall your web browser, save up history/passwords/bookmarks, and let me know if it still lasts, also try to open this website with a different browser. If so, then get a better anti-virus software and perform a deep scan (takes hours usually) sometimes, you have to delete bastards manually, but they are either very well hidden or even invisible and it tends to say "file in use" when you try to remove it. Obviously, not even killing the system process helps in serious cases, as it begins anew. There are a few tricks tho, reboot your system in safe mode and as your operating system logs in but before desktop completely loads, open your task manager by pressing control+alt+delete and do it, afterwards, it should be possible to get rid of--Elveonora (talk) 23:37, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Also if you're able to find out what the name of your Trojan is, you might be able to find a way to manually delete it on sites such as CleanPCGuide.com.71.71.58.231 (talk) 00:04, February 10, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan

Speculations?
So I was wondering, when Orochimaru released the Hokages and his arms, didn't he also release Kuramas yang part, or did he acturly choose what he wanted to release? --Kasan94 (talk) 09:19, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't know if Chakra follows the same rules as the souls or not.--~ Ultimate  Supreme  09:25, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks. --Kasan94 (talk) 09:41, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

2 new databooks being released.
On the 15th of March, 2013 2 new databooks are being released. http://www.naruto-mx.com/deux-nouveaux-databooks-naruto-shippuden-en-vente-le-15-mars-2013-tennomaki-et-chinomaki/5501/ 71.126.164.80 (talk) 13:58, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not fluent in French, but I know enough to tell those are not actual databooks, at least that's not what the descriptions they make of them. More link a book about the series success. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:17, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * As Omni said, It's a novel called (NARUTO―ナルト―名言集 絆―KIZUNA―) which means Naruto: Bonds Quotations. It consists of two books I think, you could read more details here and here. This is the offical site which illustrates the chapters of these two books. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 10:18, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * About time. When can we expect some info from them?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:09, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * They've been out for a week in Japan now. I'm certain that if anything interesting had come out of them, we would have known by now. Only possible piece of them that might be of interest are interviews with Kishimoto. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:44, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

congratulations
would like to say I really enjoy this site, find it informative if not a little speculative at time lol still a really great site.
 * Though I don't know which "speculation" you're referring to, on behalf of the other editors, thank you for taking time out to share those words. They're a real encouragement to us.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:57, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

Poll results
Can someone please publish a list regarding the weekly polls and make a suggestions box for them?139.190.155.162 (talk) 18:20, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I'm broken again
Can't edit in default interface cause editor doesn't load up, works only in monobook, any ideas? Tried clearing up caches and cookies, no help--Elveonora (talk) 23:38, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Still works for me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:05, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I have no such luck. Any wikia guru knows why is this? It's not like the other interface is bad, but still, I got used to the default skin, it's easier to follow--Elveonora (talk) 13:50, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of. Currently, the only that looks broken for me are team infoboxes when the team name has macroned letters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:16, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Er, if you are in the uk. They have had some server problems recently. Normally if you empty your cache on your web browser this will remove all the bugs. If it dosent work, there is still wrong with wikia and you should try emailing them for further instruction (They are normally very prompt with reply's). --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 19:57, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not from UK ;) and thanks, will do once I cease being lazy lol.--Elveonora (talk) 20:03, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

The guy who operates it for me is normaly really good, I can link you to his email if you want ? --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 20:05, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Up to ya, would be nice tho--Elveonora (talk) 20:13, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

This is the address I used "support@wikia.zendesk.com" I dont know if its the same guy, but just tell him all your troubles and im sure they will find a way to fix it ! --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 20:20, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
This wikia should have a chat I think that would be very heplful what do you think ? --  Jmootam1999 17:02, April 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is a wiki, not a social networking site. The suggestion of adding the chat extension has been made and rejected over and over again in many places. If you read the forums, the wiki has had problems with people using this site like a forum, so this will never be added. --Speysider Talk Page 17:01, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

The Naruto answers and DBZ wikia have it and it works well on both of those. I think if you have a chat like that it would create an easier platform for communication, its just a quicker war of using a forum or a talk page. Thats my opinion. --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 17:05, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Use the IRC channel if you want.~ Ultimate  Supreme  17:10, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a link on the front page to the animanga wiki chat. — S im A nt 19:10, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion a chat can be very useful if use with caution, its just don't lose the control and keep the eyes in vandals Alexandre 93 (talk) 01:55, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Homepage
Hey, loving the new homepage. Just a little improvement, can we fill up all the space at the bottom with some content as it looks a bit strange with nothing there ! --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 15:37, April 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't remember there being any community consensus on that new page, I have reverted the edit until people can discuss it. Let's not make arbitrary decisions on our own regarding this. --Speysider Talk Page 15:39, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I just saw it had been changed and I wanted to know ! can you link me to where it can be discussed though please ? --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 15:41, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Narutopedia talk:Sandbox2 You're welcome.
 * Well, the only change I could see was the colours and the curves. Imo, it would be enough to add the curves to the homepage. The current colours fit better. Lets wait for others to have their say too.~ Ultimate  Supreme  16:40, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yeh, agreed. Perhaps continue the discussion on here for the sandbox2 thing so everyone can see it ? copy and paste it over maybe ? Idn ... --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 16:43, April 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * We just need bits and pieces from the new design, colour-wise and images. The Welcome to Narutopedia is also very nice as the one there looks bland right now, not an entire overhaul.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 02:01, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hi I am not trying to be mean but can you please get rid of the ask a question part of this wiki. You go out of your way to make a great wiki. But the majority of the questions asked are just plain stupid. I am not saying the person asking is but the question is. Instead of asking the question a person can look for the answer and probably find the answer faster.


 * Its a separate wikia. Take it up with someone on there. --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 08:17, April 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Saying that the questions are stupid, is calling the person asking the questions stupid. That wikia has to operate on good faith that the questions being asked genuinely want an answer.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:16, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

How about now? And Cerez, to say the truth, what I've done isn't an "entire overhaul", UltimateSupreme did the most. All I've done is give the homepage a better look.. And I see that SimAnt changed something in the latest chapter template, and now it looks good, doesn't it? The read more option is better than copying the whole summary/plot onto the main page. But I don't understand why it hasn't been done to the Template:Latest/Episode..

I don't understand.  Anime::Naruto: Shippuden  is the only code that seems to be extra in the Template:Latest/Episode, but I believe that's not the cause of the problem.. Help SimAnt!

Poll Mainpage?
I hate to ask this question, but how to find the mainpage for the poll? Kunoichi101 (talk) 14:35, April 26, 2013 (UTC)Kunoichi101
 * Template:MainPage/Poll. --  The Talk Goblin 14:39, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Red Colour Clash
I don't remember a decision being made to put in red colours on the homepage. Now it just looks ugly. Red doesn't go with Orange at all. --Speysider Talk Page 15:55, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed, please change it back. Seelentau 愛議 16:17, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * The colour scheme on the homepage is not orange, but fixed~ --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:22, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

I'm saying the red on the homepage clashes horribly with the orange in the background. It just looks freaking ugly and unappealing to the wiki. >_> --Speysider Talk Page 16:41, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess you miss the fixed bit huh.--[User:Cerez365|Cerez 365 ™]]Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:06, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey speysider he said fixed duh -- Jmootam 1999 17:17, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I'm too tired to think properly. The "duh" was not necessary either. --Speysider Talk Page 17:18, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Now that you id that edit it makes cerez seemstupid :S -- Jmootam 1999 17:21, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

EVERYONE... Except Sakura and Naruto
Has used Earth Release Rock Wall. That's an EARTH release attack. So they have that element at disposal now. Naruto and Sakura know the seals now too but they just haven't used it. 96.241.55.117 (talk) 18:55, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * There are already two pretty lively discussions running about it.Norleon (talk) 18:58, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Link me to it?? 96.241.55.117 (talk) 23:44, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you're asking so terribly nice, sure! Here you go.Norleon (talk) 09:58, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Mass of Unofficial Titled Techniques
There are too many unnecessary unofficial titled technique in the site. Every move, every action, everything in the manga or anime become a jutsu here. They are too many and no need for them. Everybody creates a jutsu page if he or she sees a new thing.

For example, "Remote Chakra Cloak Manipulation" what the hell is that ? All chakra cloaks made by Kurama and Naruto, of course he can manipulate them. It is chakra control ability and chakra control is a basic thing.

Another example is "Chakra Transfer Technique", it is also chakra control ability. Anyone who is able to control his/her chakra, can transfer chakra. |Here, jiraiya says "placing their chakra into yours to disrupt the flow". I think, it is kind of chakra transfer. Or, Naruto helped chiyo to revive Gaara with transferring his chakra. "Chakra Transfer" article can be moved to Chakra Control article in Chakra page. Zetsu's part can move to Spore Techn., Dan Kato's part can be moved Spirit Transformation etc...

Jugo's attacks -> Sage Transformation page. Tailed Beast abilities (Telepathy, shockwave, arms, ink..) -> Tailed Beast Skills Chakra Sensing -> Sensor Type page A path's skills -> Path's page Chakra Enchanced strength -> Chakra control Many unnamed techniques can be moved. If it is only used by one person, it goes to person's page. It is filler or not, it doesnt matter.

And, many unnamed techniques like "Sage Art: Wind Release Stream", "Twin Rasenshuriken" (he just creates a Rasenshuriken for each hand, it is like Kakashi's double Raikiri against Kakuzu) no need for them.

It is just a suggestion to improve this site.--Salamancc (talk) 15:57, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * "are the mystical arts a ninja will utilise in battle. To use a technique, the ninja will need to use their chakra. To perform a technique, the ninja will bring out and release the two energies of chakra. By forming hand seals, the ninja is able to manifest the desired technique. Because of the extensive number of hand seals and different combinations, there are thousands of potential techniques to be discovered". --ROOT 根 (talk) 15:59, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding those more generic abilities, we make the page because of how frequently they appeared. It's much easier to have one page where the ability can be listed and accounted for its differences than having it spread through several articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:35, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

From time to time, cleanups are being done, if you believe a page isn't necessary, bring in up on its talkpage--Elveonora (talk) 16:58, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Pictures
Hey guys! I just wanted to use this wikia to spread my sketches of Naruto! http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4119965012319.128278.1679102389&type=3 --JagritL (talk) 14:07, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * That is not what this wiki is meant for. Use a forum site instead. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 14:36, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ages.
Gaara who was born in January was 15 and Naruto born in October was 15 according to the Shippuden Mini Databook on ShounenSuki's contributions page, which means ALL people were a year younger in the beginning of Shippuden and Naruto was 16 when he fought Kakuzu. Which means Sasuke was INDEED 15 when Naruto and him met again at Oro's base. 6 months after that Sasuke betrayed Oro and we then get all the Databook 3 ages. So the ages need to be added for the beginning of shippuden for the rest of people, not just Kakashi, Naruto and what not. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 23:09, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

This is probably a big idea but.
I think All Anime, Movie and game only stuff should have their own section on the site, and be removed from all current pages. 96.241.55.117 (talk) 20:29, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think so.94.135.135.179 (talk) 20:34, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, you can't imagine how much I want canon stuff separated from non-canon, you are free to start, joking... too bad such a "reconstruction" would take somebody's youth and half of that person's brain cells. Sounds like too much of a task and seemingly admins are okay with it as is...--Elveonora (talk) 20:37, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * What site are you visiting? The only video game information that goes into articles in general is pretty much debut and which games a character is playable in, and the eventual video game user of a technique, and those are very clearly labelled, and they don't take up space. Video game plot and the like is limited to the game's article, and the game's character's articles. Pretty much the same with movies. We cover the franchise as a whole. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:40, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe he suggests us mentioning nothing non-canonical in articles, or something like having sections "unconfirmed history" and there pasting stuff from fillers, ovas and movies. Or the proposal by someone not that long ago, having it like Bleach wiki for example, categories "anime only characters/arcs/powers/locations/events" etc. instead of having to do it through "browse data-filter" I don't have problem with the latter at all, but for anime only content in articles, I don't like it either since it contradicts the canon. Best example is Anko, she was 17-18 when she left the village with Orochimaru and at least a Chunin, not that little girl shown in Land of Sea arc. Not to mention why and how it happened is also made up. Or Orochimaru wrongly commenting on Itachi massacring his clan in the anime, while it was yet to happen back then in the plot. Or even worse "liberties" like Omoi coming into possession of Kiba (swords) and Pakura being that Suna toilet paper girl's teacher, Naruto meeting Utakata among others.--Elveonora (talk) 12:22, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Thank You Elve, thats what I am saying. Do this like the bleach wiki too. 96.241.55.117 (talk) 03:04, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

GIF
I just want to suggest that jutsus like these and many more, have "slideshows" (sory I don't know what to call it) replaced by GIFS so readers can understand how it used 121.54.96.131 (talk) 06:18, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Image policy recommends not to use them. Morover we have .gif uploading disabled now. ~Ulti  Sup~  06:47, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Fourth shinobi world war pics
In some articles they have the persons apperance uring the war, from the manga. What about changing those, or adding, anime pics? --Kasan94 (talk) 11:11, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * We do replace those with anime pics, but at the moment allot of the war hasn't been shown in the anime --ROOT 根 (talk) 12:51, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh great that you plan to that! But since they from now on, all have some scratches on their faces/bodies, wouldn't it be better to get the pics from that which already have been? (acturly got a few good ones in store) --Kasan94 (talk) 16:42, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Shall I do it? --Kasan94 (talk) 20:36, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep if you can get good quality ones --ROOT 根 (talk) 09:43, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

New Stat table
http://marvel.com/universe/Loki

look at how their stat table is, it has fan and official ratings. I think we should incorporate a similar system into ours maybe? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 07:23, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not gonna happen. Would only lead to lengthy and pointless discussions about how any character's anything should be any value, and shift focus from other more meaningful discussions. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:07, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Jinchūriki Forms
First, I know this may be a stupid thing, but is there a point in making all jinchūriki's pages have a link to "Jinchūriki Forms" page, even those who have never shown a jinchūriki transformation? (like the Sage of Six Paths, Rin Nohara, Kushina Uzumaki...)--JOA20 (talk) 19:20, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Only hosts who have displayed jinchūriki forms used to have those linked. Don't know if the linking system for that in the infobox was changed, but I agree, only those who have displayed any transformation should have those links in the infobox. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:07, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Homepage Polls
Uhmm, just to ask, who is the guy behind these homepage polls? Can I make my own poll? Jean Gorby (talk) 13:04, July 8, 2013 (UTC) Jean Gorby Jean Gorby (talk) 13:04, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * You can certainly suggest a poll.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Background and logo change
Hey guys i know am new guy here but i want to ask if we can improve the look of the Naruto wikia something new for the background and the logo you know. So.....What you think?--Whiteflash10 (talk)
 * Hello and welcome! I think the first thing you should know is that we're not a fussy community when it comes on to these kinds of things. It took us a real long time to even switch from the basic homepage we had before. Any way, that being said, I highly doubt the background and our logo are things that will ever change. We're quite fine with the logo, and the background serves its purpose of covering the blank space around the back.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 07:18, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Glossary
I was contemplating this for a while, recent discussions might have given me the push I need to see if this can work for us. We have a section that has Naruto Terms and so on, but what if we consolidate that into a glossary where we could include definitions of terms like vitality stamina life force, tenketsu and even Jashin and Shinigami instead of having them spread out in several different articles. It could be a point of reference (duh a glossary) for things like these. Thoughts?--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:17, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, so you mean place for "not otherwise specified" like shinobi rules for example? If it's not an event, a technique, a character, a location, a group etc. it would go there? Just a reminder that doesn't render Reaper a not-a-character though ;D--Elveonora (talk) 16:31, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Like the idea, like @Elv said, and i am going to emphasize a question, what will be the content wrapped in the glossary? Dan.Faulkner (talk) 16:41, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

I have tons of settei with heights on them
http://www.imageshack.com/my/images

would you all be kind to add them to the pages?? I am blocked from doing so myself and Omnibender said it was ok until databook 4 comes out ItachiWasAHero (talk) 03:44, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * ...are you aware that the link isn't working for us? Seelentau 愛議 10:26, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * ...That link still not working. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 11:03, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * "my" images means yours, only you can view your uploads I believe--Elveonora (talk) 11:28, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you provide us where did you upload those images form to bring them to your Imageshack account? May I help you for that ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 11:39, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Alright guys I need a site that I can upload and YOU all can see them too, I was unaware that nobody else could see them sorry. Just let me know and I will get on it. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:10, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

I found a place to do it at. Link will be up shortly. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:35, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/ItachiWasAHero/library/?sort=3&page=1

Here they are guys. If you guys find any that are NOT on this list send them to me. I will use this photobucket as the Settei library for this wiki to use whenever. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:13, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

I accidently deleted the Yagura settei and now I am disheartened as I do can't find it on the internet now.. if anyone has it send it to me please?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:21, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Good... now, all left that's needed is a microscope and lots of patience. EDIT: joking obviously, no disrespect, we are thankful of course, just in case--Elveonora (talk) 22:33, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, I will add more as I find them an as they are sent to me. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:43, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 14:38, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Color images
I don't know why, but in "Ten-Tails Sealing technique" and "Ten-Tails Chakra technique" there are color images in the infobox. I'm quite confused whether they are fanmade or not since in the original chapters they were black&white.--JOA20 (talk) 08:22, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * They are official. Chapter 638 was released in colour to commemorate Jump's 45th anniversary.--BeyondRed (talk) 08:28, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * I see, thanks for answering! ^_^ --JOA20 (talk) 08:37, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 643
So, if you direct your attention to Mangahead, there is a "Raw" of chapter 643. However, it is poorly scanlated and actually translated in English. My question is, are we supposed to use those? To add info I mean, not images.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 14:40, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * The untranslated 'raws' are at a blogspot called narutosaiyan. I'm not sure why the translated version would have the words in such low quality as well. I say we wait for better quality scans before adding any info, just encase this is fake or we can't read a part of it. Joshbl  56  15:27, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the quality is horrible, I could not even read all of it....let's wait until a better quality version is published.Norleon (talk) 15:28, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's from a blogspot then I agree. We can wait.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:45, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Obito's kekkaijutsu is (most likely) called 六赤陽陣 Rokuseki Yōjin, translating to Six Red Yang Encampment. That's all for this chapter, hm? Seelentau 愛議 02:44, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * The chapter is now out in full on MangaDoom. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 03:26, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Obito's jutsu looks and is probably a six version of the Hokage's Four Red Suns technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:46, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Characters ages updating
Since we know the real timeline of this war at these recent moments is on the 9th of October, so it's a good idea to update the characters ages who were born before October 9 like some of Konoha 11 characters and anyone born after October 9, we shouldn't change his age. Thoughts? http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 16:28, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * There already are topics on the matter, but Mr. Senator, I mean Foxie opposes it because he would like to wait for something that may not even come. Others seem to support it tho--Elveonora (talk) 17:17, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * When? Until the new databook's release? I don't have a problem for updating the ages until the new databook says something different. No updates for the deceased characters and the characters that have no brithdate.  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 17:30, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree and I would like to start updating too -- Root 根  17:32, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why not, we have all the information. 17:36, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Agira Ryūdōin
Hello guys, I noticed that this charachter has no kanji name in his infobox. Why's that? Not like it's a important page, just that in such a good wikia it is somewhat disappointing.--JOA20 (talk) 06:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Anime only characters don't have them, unless it's known. --Speysider Talk Page 09:26, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've checked the ending cast of the episode that he made his debut and I didn't find his voice actor then his full name. So it's unknown, otherwise it had been added for a long time.  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 09:29, August 21, 2013 (UTC)