Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25531508-20140923043228/@comment-3568954-20140925075613

Blaezej wrote: Since we don't have access to his abilities when he was on his prime, I'll respect your choice.

Since it is a choice to think like that, since Kishi stated (repeatedly) in the Databooks that Hiruzen was "the strongest shinobi of all time".

I don't think you can really dispute with the 'opinion' of the author on things like that... but whatever suits you.

you need to go look at the databooks again because clearly you are wrong here is what it says in total the databooks rate Hiruzen as a level 34 out of shinobi. the same databook states that Orochimaru is a 35 and Jiraiya is a 35.5 and Tsunade a 35. right there you are proven wrong being that all 3 sannin are rated higher than him Hashirama on the other hand is different during the Fourth Shinobi World War when fighting Madara despite Madara gaining various enhancements since their last battle, including increased physical parameters well-beyond his prime, the Wood Release possession and mastery of the Rinnegan, Hashirama was still able to fight on par against Madara while being just shy of his full power with a little Aid from Naruto