Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36512555-20200302063012/@comment-6769189-20200408095211

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Ignore my citation to the chapter that showed Madara soloing 2 jinton users. TF you mean they never fought?
 * You're just strengthening my point on that they never fought. Jinton > Alive Ems/MS Madara whether you like it or not.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

How? Obito needed to be solid in order to get in front of the Jinton touch Sasuke. If Obito is fast enough to get in front of it, Madara is fast enough to get away from it.
 * Obito is a kamui spammer, poor example.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Nagato can use bansho tenin on Madara to pull him into jinton, then he'd again have no choice to absorb, then Itachi strikes. 2 huge problems, one of which I noted in my last post.

1st problem: Madara can use Deva abilities to negate or nullify Nagato's.

2nd problem: if Madara has to use Preta Path to absorb Jinton, Itachi's Susanoo cant touch him because it is chakra/Ninjutsu and Preta path absorbs both of those

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

And? Doesnt stop any of those clones from using any of said strategies to stop him.
 * I was totally using Ay and his hellstand against the susanoo clones, what you on about lol.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Niggu Onoki used Tsunade as a battery moments before Perf Susanoo made an appearance. Onoki not having chakra isnt an excuse because Tsunade is there for a recharge/battery.
 * Niggu Ohnoki was drained and couldn't use jinton again, pretending like you don't know only gives you more things to reply to.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Cool. Hes more likely to use the 360 ninjutsu defense of Preta path anyways and Itachi wont be able to touch him
 * If Uchiha return really is your plan, he'd still get stabbed in the back by Itachi cuz he'd be occupied collecting and returning the attack

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Yes. He did, at the same time he beat Onoki. Keep ignoring that chapter cite though
 * Madara didn't beat MU.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Gaara was "busy?" If Sand Tsunami beat the clones they would have gotten out of the way so Gaara could solo them all
 * Erm Gaara was busy covering the other's assess, Rasa doesn't have to worry abt that here. He solos the clones with a sand tsunami.

They were fighting in the desert. If burying Madara under sand was the answer they wouldn't have lost. There wouldnt have even been a fight.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Most of them dont have the destructive capacity to take on Susanoo even with unlimited chakra.
 * Niggu Madara fought mortals with limited everything, these guys are nigh immortal like him.

Most of them dont have the speed to take on Madara.

Most of them cant get around 6 Path technique

Most of them cant stop the effect of chakra recievers

Most of them cant stop genjutsu

Most of them cant take on Wood Release

A few cant take on one of these abilities, but not all of them in one individual wo can make clones to use these abilities at the same time as him

On top of that he has 7 bijuu + Gedo Mazo for support if he needs it