Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29517168-20160328040252/@comment-27823212-20160401230250

Basically making it a Earth Release. Momoshiki can and will absorb it. The mountains that are pulled up from the ground are not earth release. There is literally nothing more to say to this. Momoshiki cannot pick up a rock and absorb it into his Rinnegan. Yes, War Arc Naruto would have lost to Toneri. He lacks the power and skill his adult self had. Sasuke's Kusanagi could pierce Madara, stop trying to say a low end feat trumps a high end. Everyone has low end feats, its the high end ones that matter in a debate. Toneri being able to cut the moon in half is so above anything done in the Fourth Shinobi World War, its not even funny. Energywise, its Small Planet level of power since Toneri could move the moon.

Low end feats do not trump high end. Otherwise, Firelord would be street level instead of cosmic from his defeat by Spider-Man. Sasuke's katana piercing Madara means absolutely nothing when he himself has no decent durability feats. Sasuke's katana bounced off Ei's neck even when enhanced by Raiton.

War arc Naruto would've obliterated Toneri with no effort whatsoever. One Kurama avatar managed to fight evenly with Toneri's statue. Naruto along with 2 other Kurama avatar clones gangbang Toneri while Toneri can't do anything back to them, since his strongest move didn't do anything to Naruto without his Kurama avatar.

There is no such thing as "low end and high end feats". They are just feats. Naruto suffering no damage from Toneri's blade while Sasuke's katana runs through him tells us all we need to know about Kinrin Tensei Baku's true damage output and how strong it is pound-for-pound.

It's a move with huge total energy output, but is weak pound-for-pound. The same way that Tenpenchii is>>>>>>>Naruto & Bee's combined Bijudama in AOE and total energy, yet is weaker pound-for-pound. Toneri would only lose to adult Naruto, Sasuke, Momoshiki, and Kaguya. A 'laundry list' is an exaggeration and shows lots of downplay in what was actually done. Let me guess, Hashirama can defeat him because he's the 'God of Shinobi'? Hashirama can defeat him because Toneri's strongest move didn't do anything to a guy that got ran through by a katana.

Toneri's offense is to weak to phase Hashirama and his defense is too weak to take anything that Hashirama can dish out. Sage Mode also negates the Jinton-effect from Toneri's truthseekers.

I wouldn't say that Hashirama can defeat a Ten Tails' Jinchuriki, Kaguya, etc, since I'm not a fanboy.

That's a level of stupidity that only Naruto & Sasuke fans can claim the monopoly to. Except it wasn't his 'strongest, fully charged Chidori'. It was a casual base-level Chidori, he didn't even have his Sharingan activated when he did it. And the meteor was the size of the entire village. Going to need some proof that this was a "casual Chidori". We saw his casual Chidori during the Gaiden. It was at the exact same level as his teen counterpart.

Not going to bother with the nonsense about the meteor size. You can literally see how big it is next to the Hokage Rock and you can see the village extending for miles in the background. There is no discussion to be had here. No, its not. You ignore everything presented to you, either downplaying it, or calling them lies. That's not how to debate. The irony. In my eyes, you're doing the exact same thing.