Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-6769189-20200705100921/@comment-45444155-20200710072939

LegionZero wrote: MindForged wrote:

Strictly speaking, this is either not true or a half truth. So you are saying the databook is lying

MindForged wrote:

Sasuke doesn't have Six Paths Senjutsu, This is true

MindForged wrote:

and the actual technique comes from the seals, not the possessors of the seals (Hagoromo gave the jutsu, after all). In both cases, we know only half the pair had that ability (Naruto and Hagoromo). In any case, this doesn't refute the point. Sasuke has Six Paths chakra, not Six Paths Senjutsu. Someone with SPS has to create them. I doubt Kaguya did

MindForged wrote:

And I don't think there's any evidence Hagoromo created the initial technique, yet, his brother had the Yin seal. The evidence is that they had the seals. At least one of them would have to have SPS to create them

MindForged wrote:

No, because he gave Naruto Six Paths chakra, and the complete knowledge of controlling chakra. But he didnt or couldnt just give Naruto the ability?

Im gonna take the databook at its word since there is nothing in the series to refute the claim

MindForged wrote:

But Naruto never had Gedo Mazo, yet he has SPSM. Because all he actually lacked was the Six Paths power and Hagoromo gave that to him. Because Hagoromo gave him the SPSM ability.

MindForged wrote:

This was built up in the series, with the Ten-Tails and Obito noticing Naruto was changing into something else. A process Hagoromo completed. The raging mindless 10 Tailed beast? Mmmmm you gonna have to cite some chapters that they believed he was "changing" in some way. Or that tge Juuni is capable of thought

MindForged wrote:

What was said was to "recreate Hagoromo's power", i.e. having Uchiha and Senju DNA, producing the Rinnegan. That's what Madara did. This was never connected with awakening Six Paths chakra. Madara didn't declare he had the Six Paths power until he absorbed the Ten Tails. In 671 Hagoromo says that mixing Ashura and Indras chakra brought out his chakra

MindForged wrote:

Lastly, having all the Tailed Beasts sealed in your body does grant Six Paths Senjutsu. This happened for Obito, who never once had any sort of Sage Mode prior. He sealed the entirety of the Juubi within himself. The the 9 Bijuu+Gedo Mazo. If the Gedo Mazo wasnt necessary to obtain its power, Madara/Obito wouldnt have gone through the trouble of resurecting the Juubi

Also, when Sasuke combined all their chakra into his Susanoo, there was no 6 Paths Senjutsu.

Because Sasuke has restored the chakra that Hagoromo has divided into nine parts. Just the chakra, not the chakra senjutsu / 6 paths senjutsu.

The chakra of nine Tailed Beast doesn't give six paths senjutsu, it gives the chakra six paths. The user then decides whether to use it as an amplifier for something, or in combination with Sage Modo to create SPSM.

Placing this chakra in the Demonic Statue of the Outer Pat recreates Ten-tails, a creature that absorbs natural energy by creating 6 paths senjutsu.