Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170128170340/@comment-26773508-20170209142533

Kakashisologod wrote:

I NEVER said that itachi is blitzing madara,but he is winning in tajjutsu by a little bit. Oh yes i remember tobirama tried to blitz madara with sage mode and hashis cells,thats not EMS madara. Sorry but Itachi isn't beating EMS Madara in taijutsu, not even by a little. Firstly, sorry for incorrectly attributing the word "blitzing" to you. But my point still stands. There is no reason whatsoever to believe that Itachi is faster than Madara, as a lot of people have already pointed out that KCM Naruto was only trying to talk to Edo Itachi; and that Itachi was merely evading Bee's sword dance instead of trying to attack him head on like Sasuke.

But even if Itachi was actually faster than EMS Madara by a little bit, how is he going to beat Madara in taijutsu? Madara is far more tough and resilient compared to Itachi. He can take heavy punishments; Itachi CANNOT.

Also, I'm talking about the possibility of Tobirama taking out EMS Madara during the Warring Clans period and the early days of Konoha. The point is simple. If Tobirama, the fastest shinobi of his time, could blitz Madara, he would have done so during the numerous battles he fought against the Uchiha. Now you might counter that Hashirama must have strictly ordered Tobirama not to harm Madara, but the point still stands. Because if Tobirama were capable of blitzing Madara, people would have taken note. And they would have said, "The only ones who could stop Madara were Hashirama AND Tobirama." instead of "ONLY Hashirama can stop Madara." So there goes your speed argument.

"Edit:Where did u see that anyone says that itachi is stronger than goku?Quote it before stupidly flaming users."

BakumatsuWarrior wrote:

Else, we become no different than some of the Itachitards lurking in the internet, some of whom even have the audacity to claim that Itachi can beat Goku or Saitama because "Tsukuyomi gg". Thankfully, such lunatics don't exist in this forum. You might have missed that one. The lunatics I'm referring to can be easily found in Facebook fan pages related to Naruto. Their justification is always the same: "Genjutsu gg", as if Goku and Saitama possess chakra which can be disrupted to cast a genjutsu.