Narutopedia talk:Administrator

New Bureaucrat
Currently, the wiki does not have an active Bureaucrat. I believe we need one, since they're the ones who can appoint Sysops, and Fandom would prefer an active Bureaucrat as well.

I think @Omnibender would be a good fit, since they're very active on the wiki and they keep things orderly already.

This idea came about since I was promoted to Sysop by our Wiki Manager (with approval from Fandom as well as another Sysop). I was promoted to help better moderate Discussions, but we had to go directly to the Wiki Manager since Dantman did not respond to my post on his talkpage.

Squinty97 (talk) 16:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Great idea, @Omnibender is a great choice. Although, I suppose @Windstar and @TheUltimate would be equally good candidates. Ninja Of War (talk) 12:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about ignoring the message on my talkpage. Most of the time people ask to be sysop on my talkpage they are just begging because they want to be an admin even if they aren't suitable. I have never given someone sysop because they asked on my talkpage (that used to count against suitability) so I may not have paid attention to a new sysop message from someone I completely didn't recognize coming from the talkpage system that clips messages off. We used to have a system, kind of like a simple version of Wikipedia's RfA process, where someone proposed sysop for someone and then members of the community gave reasons they supported/opposed the nomination. Though I guess that's not around anymore after several forum system updates. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Actually it would be great if someone could create a new RfA system. I've looked all over and the old one is just, gone. Here's what I'm thinking:
 * A basic Narutopedia:Requests for Adminship index listing proposals and how to create one, proposals at Narutopedia:Requests_for_Adminship/{Name}, and Template:RfA stub (or a form/pre-filled page based setup) roughly based on Wikipedia's Wikipedia:WP:RfA system. i.e. A page template for proposals listing who is being nominated, why, links to important references (talk, contribs, etc), and an organized place for the community to support/oppose.
 * The Narutopedia:Sysop should link to the system this time.
 * When a proposal is created a post should be made in the new discussions board so the community can provide rationales for/against the nomination.
 * All current admins should also be notified of the proposal.
 * ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 00:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The reason the original RFA's can not be found is they were in the now-discontinued and removed Forums feature. That was merged with the absolutely abhorrent "Discussions" feature (/d) and using that for any sort of meaningful RFA is a waste of time: 99% of the users there have no idea what the wiki is or what "sysop" or "bureaucrat" are.
 * I agree with Squinty on promoting Omnibender to bureaucrat, being the only daily active admin on this wiki. Saru is only occasionally active with file uploads, and everyone else has moved on/resigned from their "position" as it were. An RFA system to facilitate future requests would be appreciated so we don't need to make requests to the Wiki Manager.
 * (Speaking of which, a lot of chatter about the wiki now happens in private chats on the community discord: although most of it is just asking the WM for advice on how to move forward with the kinds of changes that would have been posted in the old forums. I recommend that any active editor who wants to discuss the wiki should use the Discord server if they find it useful). --Sajuuk 15:33, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I already consider cleaning up subpar edits mostly by myself a thankless chore, and I hate all non-essential social chit-chat, so I will not download discord just so I can take part of conversations that should be happening in talk pages. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It was only a recommendation, no one is forcing you to go there. However, the little editors who are here don't seem to use talkpages anyway and given Fandom's overhaul of the platform making talkpages harder to find, the discord server has been an easier platform for those that use it, and achieves broadly the same outcome without the cumbersome nature of an archaic talkpage (not to mention there's barely any changes that get made here anyway and those which do just happen anyway without the need of a realistic discussion). However, whether people want to use Discord or not is really not the point of Squinty's bureaucrat request in any case ^_^.
 * (As an aside, I should point out that you also have an incorrect viewpoint regarding the Narutopedia discord: there are a couple of sysops on there and exactly none of them partake in the wider social chatter of the community that is present there. TU3, the only actively reachable sysop on there, only responds to wiki-related matters that occur in some private chats, he does not post in public channels or engage with the circa 3.2k community members). --Sajuuk 23:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Just to make note, since this wiki has been lacking in actively-contributing mods for a long time now, with seemingly no want of change from current administration.

Sysops/Crats
 * NeedleJizo - Last edited August 2018
 * Squinty97 - Edits, but primarily in Discussions, which is why they were given admin rights
 * UltimateSupreme - Helps with coding and takes time to help users in talkpage, but other than that.
 * Dantman - Does not contribute and has not for years. Not always reachable.
 * TheUltimate3 - Not actively contributing, but will take time to reply to talkpage messages. Takes large breaks.
 * Seelentau - Retired from modding the site in December.
 * Sarutobii2 - Contributes
 * WindStar7125 - Talkpage edits in 2020, but beyond that?
 * Jacce - Basically inactive.
 * Omnibender - Active, contributes and talks to members.

Our Rollback team is also quite inactive, so as can be seen, I believe the administration team on the wiki needs a big overhaul. Actively contributing members who are able to head toward progress and allow discussion and not keep the wiki in 2010. Just something to think about because I feel giving one of these members crat rights will not necessarily solve any issues we have. My own two recommendations for bureaucrat at this point would be either Omnibender (though I really do feel he holds us back a lot) or Snapper2, if he doesn't oppose that is. I'm aware he retired as a sysop here long ago. Munchvtec (talk) 02:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)