Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34436445-20180604184258/@comment-35806245-20180611193151

This is minato vs madara, I assure you that if minato was praised by the same 4th raikage as the best shinobi ever despite knowing his father means something. Bee felt the ftg seal on himself and predicted. Minato killed 1000 shinobi before they could react, if you consider that reflex and reaction as little then be my guest. Minato has something that is a bane of many shinobi, fuinjutsu. If you think tobirama is better than minato then you are out of it, tobirama himself praised minato's ftg and I don't know what the word upgrade means to you but to me it means much better. If madara has a better powerful jutsu than a bijuudama which was instantly teleported away then I'll start considering it. Tobirama who was faster than madara praised minato's speed as better than his own, this is an A>B>C scenario. I know you love uchihas but the point is minato sage or whatever wins against madara. Hashirama is another thing, that guy was always toying with madara and always wasting chakra on purpose to make madara feel better at any of their fights ending as not bad :-)