Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-6769189-20171013150329

Hiruzen, even though he can use kniws all the jutsu, doesnt mean he has mastered them. Minato, on the other hand, mastered FTG to the point where there was a flee on sight order during the war. You know what Jutsu would have been really handy against Orochimaru? Shadow possession/strangle.

Enma surprising Oro has nothing to do with speed, Shunshin, or FTG. Oro wasnt trying to dodge it, he blocked the staff and tgen stood there. If Hiruzen was as fast as you say he would not have gotten kicked in the face by Tobirama and Hashirama half a second later.