Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46486865-20200730051057/@comment-36366948-20200818041058

Once again Hebi Sasuke and CM Jugo aren't on the same level. Hebi Sasuke tanked CM Jugo, and defeated him and Suigetsu without any Cursemark or Sharingan active. I am very not denying The Raikage's strength or the durability of MS Sasuke's Susano'o, but I'm saying he wouldn't have been caught by the Raikage. And don't deny the fact that MS Sasuke got Man handle by the Raikage and Killer Bee despite major aids by team Taka. It's not like MS Sasuke turns off and on the Susano'o without consequences. MS Sasuke's Kenjustu has also been reduced after seeing Killer Bee and Danzō fight him with it, so running after him isn't the smartest. My bad about that one the Susano'o level, but he's only kept that stage on for few seconds. Yes they are, Hebi Sasuke never fought CM 2 Jugo, and going off of what we've seen, he's as strong, if not stronger than CM 2 Sasuke. No MS Sasuke's kenjutsu isn't somehow worse than Hebi Sasuke, that isn't even possible. Did MS Sasuke suddenly forget how to use a sword or something? It's just that Bee and A are stronger. Hebi Sasuke would do far worse than MS Sasuke in fact. The Bee fight is a perfect example of this. If FKS Sasuke fought Bee instead, he would easily kill him due to Amaterasu.

Hebi Sasuke also knows everything about MS Sasuke's arsenal. He even knows about the strains of the Amateratsu from Itachi's fight and from himself after activating it. And Hebi Sasuke obviously knows about the Susano'o, he even saw it destroy the 8 Headed Snake and Orochimaru. Notice how Orochimaru saw the Susano'o and Itachi, but didn't care, despite knowing it's strengths, he was only oblivious to the Totsuka Blade. And MS Sasuke didn't use his MS abilities for Danzō's Summoning, his Susano'o was being Destroyed and he just stood there, he barely escaped, by using the Fire Style Fire Ball Jutsu to burn it and hit Danzō. And Itachi used the Totsuka Blade and Yata mirror, both of which Sasuke doesn't have. Kagatsuchi and Susasno'o crossbow would like to have a word with you. Well too bad it does. Kabuto States that Jugo's clan Naturally absorbs the Nature energy from Ryūchi Cave, and Sasuke's CM is powered and Enhanced along with a portion of Orochimaru's Sage Mode. It may not be to the same degree, but still very powerful. MS Sasuke doesn't scale to SM at all. Not Even EMS Sasuke is near that level after being carried by Itachi against Kabuto. And I'm not saying Maybe to ANY of those, he actually CAN do it. Base Chidori MS Sasuke ~ V1 Raikage un speed. On the Chuunin Exams, a non-enhanced, Non-powered, non-mastered base v1 Cursemark Sasuke was able to move Naruto and Sakura from a Blast Sound Point blank, something he could never IMAGINE doing before. Now Here's a Sasuke who's better at ALL of those + Curse Mark. In speed Hebi Sasuke>>>> V1 Raikage~> MS Sasuke. And yes he is and can out smart MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke used his Change Chakra completely against Deidara whereas against Danzō in both Ninjutsu AND Kenjutsu MS Sasuke didn't use any Fire style Jutsu against Danzō despite Danzō spamming Wind Style, and MS Sasuke only used Fire Release on the Baku bc he was pressured by Danzō coming close to him, and all of that after standing still why getting attacked by Danzō+ Baku Are you seriously telling me that Hebi Sasuke is faster than V1 Raikage due to his CM? If he was that fast, he could've blitzed Itachi, he could've blitzed Deidara, literally anyone he fought lol. Stop making up BS, we have no evidence that CM 2 Sasuke is as fast as V1 Raikage who is as fast as lightning. The speed of lightning is way faster than the speed of sound lol. Hell base Shippuden Sasuke is faster than sound. Sage Kabuto had many body mods that strengthened his sage mode. Also Sasuke wasn't fighting with killing intent. MS Sasuke could go toe to toe with SM Naruto. Also Sasuke didn't become dumber when he got his MS. I don't understand the fact that because Hebi Sasuke is less reckless, it somehow makes him smarter. MS Sasuke is more experienced and has accumulated more knowledge than Hebi Sasuke. When he came across a cunning opponent like Danzo, he fought with a strategy and beat him with genjutsu, not just raw power. Sasuke didn't use Fire Jutsu because he had Blaze Release lol, which is basically katon but op.

Lol MS Sasuke litteraly only beat Danzō and even then There's too much evidence to support Danzō> MS Sasuke as he was even holding back, and didn't even have his Kotoamatsukami prepared. ...What? He made short work of Cee, a jonin powerful enough to be the Raikage's bodyguard. He beat Killer Bee, the strongest jinchuriki at the time. He beat A, and would have killed him if not for Gaara. He beat Sakura right after fighting Danzo, and even fought toe-to-toe with Kakashi. I don't understand why you keep wanking CM Sasuke and lowballing MS Sasuke. No Hebi Sasuke isn't smarter, he isn't better at swordfighting and CM 2 isn't going to carry him through the fight. The Eight Branches Technique will count as Orochimaru's win not Sasuke's btw, because Orochimaru isn't on Hebi Sasuke's side. MS Sasuke wins mid diff, because he knows everything about Hebi Sasuke, while all Hebi Sasuke knows about is Amaterasu and the basics about Susano'o.