Talk:Kamui Lightning Cutter

Infobox picture
I don't think the picture should have any empty spaces on it. The whole area should be taken up. Munchvtec (talk) 11:56, August 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * If you remove the pixel-limitation, the infobox is way too large. It still is now IMO... Norleon (talk) 12:02, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Senjutsu
Should this technique also be listed as a senjutsu? This technique's power appears to be partially derived from the Six Path Sage chakra Obito transferred to Kakashi, similar to Sasuke's black Chidori came from his extra chakra from Hagaromo. —Steveo920 (Talk) 13:10, August 20, 2014
 * Discussions are still ongoing. If we list Kakashi as Six Paths Senjutsu user, then so should we Sasuke, since duh, he too can harm Kaguya (which is possible only with Senjutsu chakra and blunt trauma) not to mention Sasuke's Chidori and Kakashi's Raikiri both turned "black" (may be different color since manga is black&white, the point is they changed color)--Elveonora (talk) 17:16, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sage power is not senjutsu... is that so hard to grasp ? Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 04:35, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? Because the two main aspects of Hagoromo's power are Rinnegan and the Six Paths Senjutsu. So what else would "six paths power" refer to?--Elveonora (talk) 09:51, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Its sage chakra like in rikudou's chakra that allwos them to do that... i had a big debate with a japanease translator. It all points to that...

Even Sasuke said it with naruto... that only naruto can damage the limbo clones since he has senjutsu.... Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 09:59, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * And Hagoromo's chakra is Senjutsu. Why would he separate it and give Naruto Senjutsu and Sasuke non-Senjutsu chakra?--Elveonora (talk) 10:24, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hagoromo's chakra is Senjutsu? What? Oo • Seelentau 愛 議 10:27, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * He has Six Paths Senjutsu, doesn't he?--Elveonora (talk) 10:32, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Chakra can't be senjutsu. It's as if you'd say someone's chakra is ninjutsu. Also, we don't know if he had SPS because we don't know what exactly SPS is and what it's not. I can tell you this on sixty different talk pages, it won't change. • Seelentau 愛 議 10:35, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, my bad, so not Senjutsu but Senjutsu chakra, terminology much? Also in case you haven't noticed, he is listed as a user. He also uses TSB and we list SPS as parent to that. THAT'S WHAT I'm talking about in regards to Kaguya, it has to be addressed, because this way one article states one thing, the other article another.--Elveonora (talk) 10:38, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Six path senjutsu is an advance mode of sage mode if you like but hagaromo's chakra is not senjutsu LOL, hagaromo also have both powers... he gaved sasuke the rinnegan and naruto the senjutsu.... its pretty obivous. I think just like senjutsu... hagaromo chakra can let you damage a juubi jin... maybe it has raw nature energy in that Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 10:42, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

"maybe it has raw nature energy in that" chakra mixed with natural energy is Senjutsu chakra Einstein.--Elveonora (talk) 10:44, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

except they are not mixing it... kakashi got a bit of rikudou chakra and he got instant black lightning... i dont see it as senjutsu..

And the manga didnt confirm any of this... and this point all its a theory. Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 10:52, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * So the basic question is [Is SPS the mother technique for TSB or can one have TSB without using SPS?], correct? • Seelentau 愛 議 10:53, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are welcome to do an analysis.--Elveonora (talk) 10:54, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

From what we see you need SPS to use TSB... If TSB could exist without SPS then Sasuke could control the platform that Naruto made for him... but he cant... Matianu.alexandruionut (talk) 10:56, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Working on it. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:05, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * If we recognize SPS from the markings on the back, then Kaguya doesn't have these markings.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 11:07, August 22, 2014 (UTC)