Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180516195246/@comment-33959444-20180519201650

LoneNinja wrote: What does mastery over a regular three tomoe Sharingan do to a guy who can break free from Genjutsu aka Deidara? What is base Naruto going to do without his stack speed? Their whole fighting styles rely heavily on Rinnegan and Mangekyo, and Sage Mode and SPSM. Without those, they aren't even S Class. I doubt they can win. Unless someone can show me some impressive Naruto base feats that shows he's at least S Class. Deidara and Sasori might just destroy him. Sasuke might be S Class. Naruto in my opinion without what makes him strong, is dead weight. I don't think Sasuke with such a restriction can take on both by himself especially when Sasori is nation level. (He solo'ed a nation by himself). Adult Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke who managed to defeat Deidara. He only had plot armor for C0, but it doesn't matter because adult Sasuke is far stronger than Hebi Sasuke was at that point in time and C0 is a suicide attack anyway. Deidara had a counter for Genjutsu, yet Sasuke still managed to fool him with Genjutsu at the end of the fight. They're not S Class? Definitely, they are S Class. Naruto in base in The Last had Taijutsu strong enough to deal with multiple of Toneri's puppets. He has access to these orange Rasen-Shuriken and Rasengan. His Rasen-Shuriken sliced through a lot of Toneri's puppets like they were butter. He was so strong in base that he (while he was struck with Chakra Rods) was able to make a Rasengan so powerful that it killed Momoshiki and flew into space. Sasuke with pure Taijutsu was fighting and keeping up with Kinshiki.