Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30426414-20170804201022/@comment-32033301-20170811204746

Rachin123 wrote: @Monkey

Kishi is the one who is going directly against logic. Just because it happened doesn't make it any less illogical. As I said, I, and any logical person will not use plot no jutsu feats to back up a person.

@Vlad

Except we've seen that you don't even need to have you're MS activated to use Susanoo, just have unlocked it. So even if Itachi's eyes were straining, him activating Susanoo isn't really plot no jutsu.

then i guess jiraiya losing to orochimaru isn't a feat for oro, since jiraiya had sage mode and could've blitzed him then and there.

or sasuke winning against deidara isn't a feat, even though according to you, it is, since there was no way sasuke should've been able to preform hand seals, summon manda, apply genjutsu, and jump in his mouth. or the fact that deidara's jutsu isn't just earth, so how could sasuke diffuse his bombs?

or that sharingan isn't able to see chakra and see things at the celluar level, since it was due to plot and illogical.

or maybe that obito not going blind isn't a feat, since it makes no sense as to why he didn't

or naruto beating kakuzu, since there's no way kakuzu shouldn't have been able to hear the loud screeching sound behind him.

the list goes on and on, the whole manga is filled with shit that doesn't make sense, except we can't just dismiss it and say " well he can't do that " since it doesn't make sense, as it's already a fact.

you can't take away what kakashi did, if that's the case then i would just take away most of the shit sasuke did, since he has his fair share of him doing things that make zero sense.