Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-26107879-20180808063700

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Aww, i don't lie to win so you can take my word. And if you were really interested you would've kindly asked for the chapter and i would've given it to you.

That first sentence though. I already know you've been wrong before. So sorry if I don't trust what you think happens. I'm going to need those chapters. Either give them or disregard it.

I left a few proofs of naruto blitzing/going top speed with the chapters and pages attached but you didn't reply to those though..that's interesting. Check 594 Page 20-21 [The Progenitor] while you're at it, in those same pages take a good inhale of real speed performed by naruto. He jumped,activated kcm,formed a rasengan in a flash.

All you're showing me is that I'm right. The fact he did all this and couldn't do the same to Obito shows that Obito is the same speed. Why was nobody blitz? Because they're moving at around the same speeds so no one can be shown blitzing and moving super fast since there's no one slow to compare it. Look at the instance between Minato and Ay. No one was shown to disappear except when it came to Minato teleporting. Ay moved at his absolute fastest but was clearly shown. But then later when he used it on Sasuke, he seemingly disappeared. That's because of what Legion described. Bullet Time. It's when the author shows us what's happening in clear detail even though it'd be impossible to actually observe it due to how fast it is.

Face? Mask is the right word, hitting the mask of a masked individual instead of targeting a vital spot says everything....everything being, you're more interested in the person's identity that to take them down, anyways you know what the guy himself stated and targeted the mask so that should explain itself to you.....it all went according to plot, so was naruto's speed

Still fail to see how that means Naruto's speed was toned down. What's stopping him from using his speed once the mask is gone? Why is it you get to say his speed is toned down? I can use that exact same argument and say Obito's was boosted for plot. But I don't have too. Cause as you said to Legion, if we didn't see it happening, then it didn't happen simple as that. We didn't see Naruto outspeeding Obito, so he isn't faster.

CombatIQmatters wrote: its plot because he could have just used chakra arm+ rasenshuriken instead, no?

Chakra arm? As in the arm that Obito could dodge without Kamui with relative ease while in mid air? Yea. No.

They already confirmed the real madara was revived, Tobi is just some evil ally.

They didn't confirm anything other than Madara was not the one leading the scenes (with knowledge gathered up to that point). The Kage explicitly told Naruto that he had to take care of the other Madara so they can win the war and that's why the clone left. They also gave him strict orders to beat him. So...