Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-32685487-20200923233550

You'd be wrong then. Madara has shown nothing outside of what I pointed out that puts him ahead of Itachi. Itachi literally said all he would need is the EMS to surpass Madara and it showed the Madara from the VotE when he said that, he went on to say the current Madara is a shell of what he once was so Itachi was clearly referring to EMS Madara, and saying that he would only need the EMS to surpass him. For the millionth time, Madara only has chakra levels, destructive ninjutsu, EMS and CB Susanoo over Itachi and that's it. Itachi who was near death and almost blind has basically the same tiers in base states as Jiraiya who had zero excuses as he was not terminally ill nor blind. Mind you Itachi's speed with his hands alone are ridiculous as he was able to not only keep up with Sasuke's easily

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but he was able to weave signs and make clones completely unnoticed by Sasuke all while they were doing the clash... and again Itachi was terminally ill and close to death and nearly blind and still did all that. Obito goes on later to say Sasuke didn't actually see through any of his Genjutsu, pretty much hinting Itachi let him see through them all. Later as an Edo he was able to dodge and fight Killer B casually and his speed was too much for B to even touch him besides the one time he let B touch him in order to catch him in a simply genjutsu which required Gyuki for him to get out of. He then goes toe to toe with KCM Naruto who can't actually land a hit on Itachi even with B trying to help him all the while Kabuto is in control. KCM Naruto who knows B is a perfect Jinchuriki still warns B not to get hit with Tsukuyomi or it will be over and B doesn't disagree at all. Then the fact that the Itachi Shinden novels are canon to the manga itself meaning Itachi has even more feats from there such as his ability to use his chakra to strengthen his kicks and punchs, and the fact he can use Tsukuyomi to kill if he intends to. He can even use Tsukuyomi to catch thousands of nano sized bugs along with their user. There are plenty of ways Itachi can win in this battle which is why I gave him 4 out of 10 battles. With the eye strain and pain, and his lower chakra levels he would lose 6 out of 10 battles. You just don't like Itachi at all so you want him to lose way more than that and that's just called childish bias.