Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180716193648/@comment-36050739-20180717232724

AsianReaper wrote: LaughingLyon wrote: How is experience going to play into this when sasuke has more notable fights at this point in his career ? Sasuke fought, haku, gaara, naruto,Oro,yoroi, and i could go on. Sasuke has way less experience; Kakashi was a war time Jonin, and an Anbu member/captain. You've only seen more Sasuke fights because he's one of the main characters.

I’ll take what I’ve seen from Sasuke as opposed to speculation over Kakashi and his “wartime experience “. We have no idea how that went down and who he fought. Maybe his most of his experience was with Minato, THE most powerful Shinobi of his time which would be a major advantage and crucial to his survival.

Nashikeine wrote: BlazeRelease wrote: Sasuke. Sasuke's Three tomoe Sharingan allowed him to get by almost every movement from a Kurama cloaked Naruto, Kakashi can't exactly match Sasuke by speed nor can he get through Sasuke's reaction speed with the Sharingan.

So, Sasuke wins.

Sasuke has three tomoe Sharingan... SO does Kakashi.

Kurama cloak Naruto was fast, but nowhere near fast as GateLee. just remember that Kakashi had a rivalry with Gai from back even before they were genin and Gai learnt Gate from his father early on. So for Kakashi to have an equal win-loss record means that he kept up with Gate Gai.

Kakashi can match Sasuke in speed, seeing that Kakashi invented Chidori which was based on speed alone.

So Sharigan gives Kakashi reaction time, he has speed and he kept up with faster opponent like Gai.

LaughingLyon wrote:

How does Kakashi counter CS Sasuke?

first of all it is only CS1 so the boost isnt as great as CS2.

the SOund 4 needed to go CS2 to tackle other Konoha jonin, to whom Kakashi is far superior. in no ways was Sasuke's CS1 or even CS2 for that matter stronger than their CS2.

by the teens Kakashi was already a Jonin and an ANBU. the guy freaking fought in a war against Jonin, Chunin and the likes. stood upto teams of enemy alone.

you seriously think CS1 Sasuke has a chance. wow

LaughingLyon wrote: Sasuke is faster, stronger, more durable, more powerful,and no sluch in the intelligence department.

Kakashi is fast. he invented the CHidori a speed based attack.

Kakashi was fighting in a war which at times he was on battlefield for days. so durable with stamina.

Sasuke probably has more Chakra than Kakashi, is debabtable.

As Adults - Yes. As Kids - No

as a kid Sasuke could only use CHidori 2 times a day + 1 with CS1.

Kakashi in the Gaiden used Chidori 3 times.

SO kakashi as a child has more Chakra than Sasuke

Intelligence... Kakashi has time and again been said to be as smart as Shikamaru, the smartest character in the series, so Sasuke is actually at pure disadvantage here.

LaughingLyon wrote: Kakashi doesn’t have the endurance to slug it out due to Sharingan drain with Sasuke nor does he have the skillset to put down Sasuke early.

Kakashi was fighting in a war. he has endurance.

even if you say he has less Chakra than Sasuke, you are forgetting that this is Sasuke from part 1 who could only use CHidori twice a day and plus one if he used CS1. BUT if you remember the Gaiden than Kakashi used Chidori thrice in a day, without a boost so he could do more means more Chakra.

Skillset - Kakashi has CHidori, which was mastered because he failed to apply lightning nature to Rasengan. so he has Rasengan. he was by the time famous for his copy abilities. so he copied many jutsu.

LaughingLyon wrote: How is experience going to play into this when sasuke has more notable fights at this point in his career ? Sasuke fought, haku, gaara, naruto,Oro,yoroi, and i could go on.

Haku thrashed Sasuke. even with Sharingan unlocked all he could do was trace the atttack and nothing else.

Gaara was thrashing Sasuke if he wasnt going mad. just remember the battle that Naruto had with Gaara just moments later and you will know how weak Sasuke was in comparision

Oro was taking it easy.

Yoroi is a pathetic shinobi.

only his fight against Naruto is noteworthy. but by this he was like given drug like booosts with the black fog thing and later CS1 and CS2.

Kakashi doesn’t have the feats to fight this Sasuke and everyone in this thread knows this, hence the overhyping of his rank( which has always been an indicator of leadership and maturity not power) and this Sasuke lowball.

Kakashi at this point hasn’t showcased the speed to match base CE Sasuke let alone the amp he gets from CS. Its skewed in Sasuke’s favor already and no ammount of downplay on CS is going to change that.

Kakashi has to deal with the constant drain of a sharingan. In PT one after his duel with Zabuza he fainted and this was as an adult when he logically has higher chakra and stamina. He will loose in a endurance match against Sasuke so his best chance is to try to end the fight in the early-mid range.

The reason i mentioned those people wasn’t to hype Sasuke but to show that he has battled named and more importantly feated characters. Kakashi at this point cannot say the same.

Kakashi is not as fast as unweighted Lee seeing as he hasn’t showcased speed like that before.

Id attribute Kakashi being able to use Chidori more to being the creator of the technique and having a better fundamental grasp of its function. Minato’s base Rasengan was better because he had better understanding of it then say, Jiriaiya.