Talk:Boruto Uzumaki

Boruto's Byakugan #2
There is nothing wrong putting down that Boruto has the potential to awaken the Byakugan. He has inherited the blood of the Hyuga from his mother after all. Not only that, Himawari, his younger sister, awoke the Byakugan. Finally he potentially has the Byakugan as an adult, seemingly only able to activate it with Momoshiki's Cursed Seal. Just putting in his article he has the potential to awaken it is putting your head in the sand and going 'no no no'.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 08:30, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Tsunade has blood of Hashirama, does that mean she can potentially awake Wood Release? Also, future!Boruto's right eye could be implant or something else. Let's not rush things, like headless chickens running around aimlessly. --JouXIII (talk) 08:47, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wiki can't even imply that the eye we saw him have even was a Byakugan (because reasons -____-). So I doubt we can even add "he has the potential".--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 11:16, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * The Tsunade example doesn't work, JouXIII. It would if Himawari did not awaken the Byakugan, but she did. Both Boruto and Himawari have inherited Hyuga blood, and both had the potential and capability of awakening the Byakugan. Himawari awoken her's first. Not to mention Kishimoto always intented to give Boruto the Byakugan (hell his official art of the forms Boruto and Sarada will awaken given it to him). You make it seem like Boruto didn't inherit anything from his mother, Jou, when the manga confirms otherwise.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 18:39, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Momoshiki's spirit said Boruto could see him because of the blood of the Byakugan user (i.e. Hinata), not because of some potential to become a one himself. Also, it was Hagoromo who said that children doesn't always inherit their parents' talent and capabilities, so Himawari awakening Byakugan doesn't necessary mean Boruto can do the same thing. Putting it like "Boruto has the potential to awaken the Byakugan" without any considerable proofs sounds pretty much like a speculation.
 * Edit: even if we assume that the right eye of adult Boruto is a Byakugan, it confirms even more that Boruto didn't inherit much of Hinata's Byakugan genes. I mean, it's either an implant or a single-eyed Byakugan, while Himawari awakened it in both eyes, i.e. Boruto either didn't inherit Byakugan at all or inherited it in a diluted state compared even to his sister. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 21:51, March 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * OR that the seal that Momoshiki put on Boruto restricts his dojutsu. And from the way it sounds, you like to ignore one simple fact Ravenlot: Kishimoto always intended to give Boruto the Byakugan. He just forgot to do so in chapter 700. In Boruto, he is revealed and confirmed to have the blood of a Byakugan user, his sister can awaken the Byakugan, and Kishimoto also reveals several official artwork of him with the Byakugan. Seriously trying to claim he can't or doesn't awaken it at this point is making Narutopedia look like we're idiots for not calling a spade a spade at this point.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:11, March 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Kishimoto's intentions doesn't necessary mean Boruto will get it in any case. Blood of the Byakugan user doesn't guarantee the Byakugan awakening to one, while Himawari's case is her own case, bot Boruto's. The artwork also depicts Boruto with something like NTCM and Sarada with something like MS, must we add that they have the potential to awaken them as well? I mean, there's currently no clue either how Boruto can get NTCM or how Sarada can get an MS.
 * Anyway, a wording like this ("potential") is a pure speculation. It wouldn't be a one if such a statement was mentioned in the series word by word, which isn't the case. Furthermore, Boruto either does have Byakugan or doesn't. In the previous discussion we decided that the proofs of the former are too vague to state it plane and directly. While we got some new info since then, they are also too vague for the proofs. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 11:22, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

If we're going to add the Byakugan to Boruto's skills, I'm going to change Naruto's status to deceased. Easy as that. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:59, March 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know, Hagoromo also had parent with Byakugan but he has never awakened! Boruto probably will have a Byakugan but This probably will be a transplant, Seeing that in the future he has one solo and with a scar similar to Kakashi. We haven't still a clear situation.--Sharingan91 (talk) 12:16, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Boruto Byakugan/Tenseigan

 * Well I think we can put this to rest. It is the Byakugan (and later the Tenseigan) for Boruto given the dojutsu we see in the first Boruto episode. Plus its not a transplant.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:33, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think anime also didn't gave any confirmation what doujutsu Boruto possesses, only clearing the fact it's really a doujutu. Firstly, it's kinda hard to determite if it's a Tenseigan (the shape isn't seen clearly + grey sclerae is something untypical). Secongly, even if we decide on it as a Tenseigan, it means that Boruto awakened it directly bypassing the Byakugan. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 19:41, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * When Boruto uses it in the future, the Dojutsu gains a distinctive blue hue, and its only used when Momoshiki's chakra goes into it. Remember, the Tenseigan can only be awakened by giving a Byakugan Otsutsuki chakra. And this episode also shows Boruto with the standard Byakugan in his eye, its too distinct not to deny now.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:43, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Firstly, we haven't even get the rightful confirmation that markings truly come from Momoshiki granting Boruto some kind of power in the hand seal (though it's very likely at the moment). Secondly, the episode doesn't show Boruto with Byakugan, only with the blue-eyed doujutsu which can be assumed to be a Tenseigan (that's also not 100% confirmed as for now). The only thing we can state surely is the fact it's the original eye of the Boruto instead of a transplant. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 19:49, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

...what? Momoshiki grabbed Boruto's hand and Boruto got the marking. How is that NOT confirmation in your mind? This is being directly obtuse. And it DOES show Boruto with the Byakugan: he only gets the blue hue in the FUTURE portion, otherwise when his eye is first shown chronologically it looks exactly like a Byakugan. Same coloration and everything). It seems like there is a deliberate attempt to be obtuse despite Kishinmoto himself saying Boruto should have the Byakugan, he just forgot to add it in chapter 700 and everythign (Boruto Mangan and Anime) is amending that.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:53, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying it's not a confirmation for me, I'm saying it's too soon to bluntly put these two things together before they get actually explained (i.e. how Momoshiki's mark works, does it affect Boruto's doujutsu etc). What's more important, Boruto's eye has a blue colour within it in both future (Kawaki battle) and childhood (Boruto anime current events) without any difference. If it's really a Tenseigan, then it's a Tenseigan from the very beginning which was awakened without manifesting the Byakugan before. I have no idea why you do see a Byakugan in Boruto's eye in the anime while it's clearly not a one. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 20:01, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see the blue hue in it at all when Boruto first awakens it in the past. Its gray, lacks a pupil, and looks exactly like a Byakugan. If its a Tenseigan in the future, it'd be due to Momoshiki's seal (due to how it activated when the seal activated). Sorry it points to things being a Byakugan in the past at least.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:17, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you surely speaking about that? I mean, I have an impression we're talking about two different cases/images.Ravenlot 27 (talk) 20:24, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * When I saw the episode, it must not have been in fully HD since it looked just like a Byakugan. Though all there is a blue outline over a gray background from the look of it. Not to mention the lack of a pupil. Tenseigan gains a pupil with a floral design remember?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:26, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, that explains something. But anyway, the eye's appearance points on a Tenseigan rather than a Byakugan. The centre of the eye is as blue as the outline itself, and the circle between them looks white and can potentially be the floral pattern of Tenseigan, the problem is that the circle's appearance isn't detailed to the extend the pattern would be clearly visible. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 20:32, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know why you saying it doesn't have a pupil when I clearly see one surrounded by white in his eye so I actually think it possibly either be Tenseigan or perhaps a mix between the two. And not to mention if it is Tenseigan I wonder how it came to be without the Otsutsuki chakra because he doesn't get that mark until after the chuunin exams and the defeat of Momoshiki --BorutoUzumaki 1 (talk) 05:37, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

You can clearly see a pupil in Boruto's Doujutsu so it is not likely a byakugan because it is not white it is blue and has white surrounding the pupil similar to Tenseigan.
 * When you look at the image, the "Tenseigan" clearly has the floral image in the eye. That's without a doubt a Tenseigan variant. Hell, it could be like Mangekyo where they all has a slight different look for the user. Just saying, Boruto Uzumaki+Hyuga lineage already gives him and Himawari the genes to awaken it. Shock Dragoon (talk) 00:12, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

No Gentle Fist
Bolt has no Byakugan, and it has been emphasized over and over again that the Byakugan is needed to use it, just as the Sharingan is needed to use Amaterasu. Even in the 4th databook, it states that the Byakugan that the Hyuga inherited from Kaguya is the REASON they can use Gentle Fist in the first place. Bolt could very easily have just learned a normal open-palm taijutsu style from his mom without learning Gentle Fist, so unless we actually see him using it, it should be removed, as he never landed a blow on Shikadai.Yahyanime (talk) 20:30, March 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Considering his mother uses the Gentle Fist style, it being literally the only fighting style we are aware she knows, and his combat style when he did fight Shikadai, it is clear that he was at least taught the physical style. Of course, without the Byakugan he can't actually do it and the article even mentions that.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 14:30, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

That means it isn't gentle fist and just an open-palm style of fighting, since GF can only be used by Byakugan users. It's mere speculation, especially considering he never landed an actual hit.Yahyanime (talk) 18:15, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Academy Arc
Or whatever it is we are planning to call it, I assume we're going to put it in before or after the Springtime arc correct?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 02:35, April 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * From the structure of other articles anything before a characters debut (in this case chapter 700) goes in background. For other characters like Naruto we would list this new arc right above the Scarlet Spring arc. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:14, April 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Except unless something goes absolutely ham, the anime is going to be taking it's time during the Academy days/early Ninja days before slapping us with another retake of Boruto: The Movie. Which means, either the Background section is going to be long as hell or we make a Academy arc section.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 10:47, April 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Trying something, in the interest of the background section not becoming absolutely daft and providing a place for people to actually add the information to the anime without unnecessary guesswork on where the hell it ends up.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 11:00, April 13, 2017 (UTC)

Quotation Marks in Boruto's Techniques.
Can someone please remove the quotation marks (""/「」) in the techniques Boruto has used? That is like saying they Surging Sea, Uchiha Style Shurikenjutsu: "Lightning": Triple, and Thunderclap Arrow, aren't really the official names of.--Steveo920 (talk) 00:34, October 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * That's how they were presented in the manga. • Seelentau 愛 議 07:07, October 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * If people really don't like it, we could drop it I guess (after consensus of course). As seen with mud wall, this is just a new naming convention and nothing more. Then again, Shojoji's techniques weren't spelled like this...--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 13:48, October 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * How would a consensus change the manga, though? :/ • Seelentau 愛 議 16:31, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

Just to keep this up-to-date: The spelling has been changed in supplementary material, and while the manga usually takes precedence, I do agree that the quotation marks are kinda off-putting, so I decided to give the "new" names the precedence. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:36, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

Uzumaki Boruto (Age 16) Settei Details
There's currently some Boruto: Naruto Next Generations settei up for auction on Yahoo! Japan Auction, including the settei for his teenage design. Source

Key details:


 * Age is 16 (same as on Kawaki's settei)
 * Height is 163 cm
 * Sword is labeled as Sasuke's Katana (サスケの刀, Sasuke no Katana)
 * Right eye is labeled as the "Pure Eye (Tentative Name)" (「浄眼（仮称）」, "Jōgan (Kashō)")
 * Arm tattoo is labeled Curse Seal (?) (呪印（？）, Juin (?))
 * Face tattoo is labeled Scar Curse Seal (?) (キズ　呪印（？）, Kizu Juin (?)).
 * The settei is also dated December 14, 2016, meaning it was completed just three days before the series was formally announced at Jump Festa 2016, nearly four months before the series premiered.

The settei seems to be the first design sheet of two, with the other probably featuring his / Sasuke's cloak. It's also yet another official source that names his dōjutsu the Jōgan, though based on Boruto Novel 3 they may have changed the official spelling from 浄眼 to 淨眼 since the time the settei was created. With both in- and out-of-universe sources, I wonder if it's time to go ahead and move Boruto Uzumaki's Dōjutsu to Jōgan? FF-Suzaku (talk) 17:05, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't see why not. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:18, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * As much as I'd like to finally be done with this topic, doesn't "tentative name" means they're still holding out in actually calling it that? I get they've already used the name in an ambiguous context with Toneri, but I just want to be 110% sure, the last thing I want is another pointless revert war. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:27, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it was tentative when this settei was drawn, but they did ultimately use the name in the anime and later in Novel 3, where the narration explicitly says Toneri entered Boruto's dream "to make Boruto aware of a portion of the power held within the Jōgan." Source. That makes two external sources (settei + animator) and two internal (anime + novel). If four sources isn't enough, I don't know what is. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:20, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

summoning Nue
Since the latest episode in fact confirmed that Boruto summoned the Nue, perhaps it should be noted.--Elve Talk Page 09:03, March 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is that it was in the perspective of the teachers (who were under the impression that Boruto had a contract with Nue via the contract he had stolen prior in that episode, I'm assuming). Had Sumire said "Oh Boruto, did Summon Nue by himself", then yeah, I dunno how he would've done it, but that would've been concrete confirmation. Now it's just...: Did Boruto Summon it by himself, or did Sumire use Nue to somehow influence Boruto to summon it, or did Sumire summon it, and used an unknown, unseen jutsu to link the Summoning to an attempt from Boruto? The first possibility isn't really plausible without a ret-con, as we have a given example of how the Summoning Technique works without a legitimate contract (ergo, Boruto's Summoning failed, but Nue appeared out of thin air because X)... Dunno. How do you propose we should handle it?:)--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 19:24, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * The annoying thing is that Sumire never did reference that event...--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 19:25, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * So? Everything that is currently known points out to it having been Boruto's doing.--Elve Talk Page 22:59, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * Between Boruto being credited to summoning it, Sumire having no reason to summoning Nue, and Hagoromo establishing a contract isn't necessary to use the Summoning Technique, i think it's time to list Boruto as a user of the Summoning Technique. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:16, March 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * I mean, she did have a reason... But I ain't gonna stop you from listing him, given that the episode did bother to include something like this. (But maybe mention these strange circumstances of the summoning somewhere in the article's trivia?)--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 18:42, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Did you want to wait for boruto's seal on his hand to get a name before adding it. he did use the ability to absorb ninjutsu. Lygarx (talk) 02:16, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Affinity
Since Sasuke said that Boruto has strong affinity for Lightning Release, shouldn't Lightning Release be noted as being Boruto's affinity? HygorBohmHubner (talk) 20:45, May 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * That was my first thought, but there are issues. That conflicts with Boruto's Rasengan unconsciously leaning to Wind Release which has always been the case in all versions of these events (movie, novel, manga, anime), Boruto being good with LR doesn't mean he wouldn't be better with Wind Release, and since Sasuke himself uses Lightning Release, it's natural he'd want to teach what he knows best. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:02, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

I understand, but you must remember: The Rasengan is an imcomplete technique. And Sasuke himself said that Boruto apparently has an easier time handling Lightning Release. And Boruto's Vanishing Rasengan was never noted be affliated with Wind Release. Maybe Boruto can do with neither Kakashi nor Naruto could, infuse Lightning-based chakra on the Rasengan. HygorBohmHubner (talk) 21:16, May 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * VR has been explicitly stated to be Wind Release as early as the movie's novelization, and if I'm not mistaken, the manga as well. If chakra affinity is what you naturally lean to, Boruto's should be wind based on what happens to his Rasengan. Sometimes it's like the anime wants to introduce conflicting information. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:48, May 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's simple folks, don't panic. Boruto's affinity is Wind, hence his Vanishing Rasengan. But the nature that Boruto is most proficient with, is Lightning Release apparently. Not any different than Sasuke's affinity being Lightning, but him having been more proficient with Fire. An affinity simply gives you an easier time with a nature, but your strongest nature is going to be the one you train the most.--Elve Talk Page 22:12, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

Shadow Clones?
In Episode 175, Boruto attacks Deepa with multiple Shadow Clones but only at most 4 at a time are seen. So can we be sure that he summoned all of them at once or he summoned them repeatedly after they got destroyed. King.Armaan.17 (talk) 13:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Species
Since both Momoshiki and Isshiki stated that Boruto is now about 80% Ōtsutsuki because of the Kāma, shouldn't he be classified as a Human-Celestial Being hybrid in his Infobox? Same for Kawaki.

HygorBohmHubner (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought the idea of being a human-celestial hybrid was being like Hagoromo (half human, half alien). I feel like in this case, it wouldn't be justified because Momoshiki is working as a parasite feeding off its host (Boruto). Not to pull a super-nerd trick or anything, but biologically speaking, a parasite can't really alter a host's DNA by thriving off of it. I still think of Boruto as 100% human, but I can't see him as a hybrid unless Momoshiki fully resurrects from Boruto or how Isshiki resurrected through Jigen. Though, I'm open to any other logic. - Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work } 20:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I understand. I just suggested it because many characters, such as scientists like Amado, stated that Boruto was already 80% Ōtsutsuki, so I assumed his DNA was already mostly composed of Ōtsutsuki genetics. HygorBohmHubner (talk) 20:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Boruto and Kawaki are literally 80% Otsutsuki now, DNA changed. Meaning they are indeed technically hybrids now. The problem is how to note that in the info-box considering they were born full human earthlings. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 20:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean, we just put "Human-Celestial Being Hybrid". Then, we just expand the details on the page. HygorBohmHubner (talk) 20:22, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I find both arguments compelling, but I'm still undecided on this. I think we should let someone like Omni add their opinion to see how this can be approached. - Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work } 20:24, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's confusing. On one hand, we were told the host gets rewritten with the Otsutsuki's genetic material, yet, outside the Otsutsuki themselves taking control of the host, there are no physical changes to speak of until the rewrite is 100% and the host dies, so shrugs. If I were to guess, Boruto's DNA hasn't been rewritten and only the Karma itself has extracted 80%, but the rewriting process itself happens only once the extraction is complete or soElve Talk Page 21:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

It's what is on the inside that's changed the most apparently, and those changes could be seen with the Byakugan which is what Momoshiki and Isshiki possessed. We can also assume that the final steps which would be past 80% are the skin, eyes and hair changing appearance fully. They were also said to literally be 80% Otsutsuki which is sufficient to feed to the Ten Tails Isshiki had so they are most definitely 80% Otutsuki DNA wise now. Also Kawaki no longer has his Karma and Momoshiki still said he was 80% Otsutsuki. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 23:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you misunderstand me. I don't think their DNA has started to get rewritten yet, only the Karma extracted up to 80% but the rewriting process itself happens only once the extraction reaches 100%. So I understand it this way: Momoshiki's DNA is present in Boruto's body, but Boruto's own DNA is unaltered.Elve Talk Page 15:12, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Latest chapter calls them Otsutsuki, and they are using Otsutsuki abilities now. So whatever DNA needed to be extracted to be Otsutsuki has definitely been extracted. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Earth Release Anime only
Twice Boruto has apparently used the Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique. I really feel that he should be labelled as user of this technique.Steveo920 (talk) 05:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This has been brought up in the jutsu's talk page back when 36 aired. Him knowing ER at that point conflicted with other known information, and what he did in 197 doesn't look particularly different. Neither occasion was pointed out as ER, and the anime was very explicit when he first used Water Release, having Sarada comment on it. Lack of more explicit and unambiguous Earth Release in other instances also makes me hesitant to consider this as ER. Mind you, I don't think it's impossible for this to be ER, but considering this is a main character, I'd prefer have an example that isn't so conjectural. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Sensor Type
In chapter 61, Boruto was not surprised at his ability to sense Kawaki's presence. Rather, he was surprised that the guards did not. It was noted by Ada and Kawaki that Boruto could probably still sense Kawaki hiding his presence thanks to his Ōtsutsuki traits.Steveo920 (talk) 22:14, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * He was actually. He feels something is off when the shadow clone enters the house, meaning right after Kawaki started suppressing his chakra. Ada mentions nothing about Boruto, she only talks about Kawaki. Boruto isn't sensing chakra. Based on what Kawaki speculated, what Boruto is sensing isn't chakra proper. Boruto himself mentioned he can feel Kawaki's presence, not his chakra. Kawaki erased his chakra signature, so what's detecting is probably the Otsutsukiness they both have. We also know from the flashback with Tobirama that proper chakra sensing is an active thing, not something one has on standby. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:40, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Sensing anothers presence in this manner is still a form of sensory just how somehow Naruto and Sasuke are linked and can sense each other from different dimensions although chakra is involved they shouldn't be able to do so normally, making Boruto a sensor type still, technically. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 00:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

A better example, is the negative emotions sensing. It is still a sensor type ability but it does not sense chakra. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 02:12, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm more inclined to list him as a sensor under that rationale as well, but it's unclear if that rationale applies here. My earlier revert of this was on the basis that Boruto had also been added as a user of Sensing Technique, which is specifically about chakra, which what Boruto did is specifically not. My only concern whether him being a sensor applies is that whatever this is, Boruto seems to only be detecting the Otsutsuki factor of it. Everyone can have negative emotions to be sensed, not everyone is significantly Otsutsuki. Even with the Naruto and Sasuke example, Naruto is considered a sensor because of negative emotion sensing, not because he can sense Sasuke from another dimension. Sasuke can do the same to Naruto, but he himself isn't considered a sensor. What Boruto has displayed so far seems more similar to what Sasuke does, and that hasn't been enough to consider him a sensor. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:06, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not so much that the technique erases one's chakra, but rather conceals it. Plus, Kawaki speculated that Boruto was able to sense him still because Boruto is also part Otsutsuki like Kawaki.Steveo920 (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * And it's still not chakra they're sensing. When they talk about Boruto being able to tell where Kawaki is, it's always his presence he detects, not his chakra. And still, this is something that only detects a specific thing, much like Sasuke being able to sense Naruto because they both received Hagoromo's power, and Sasuke was not deemed a sensor over being able to track that one thing. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:50, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Which also brings me back to something, Naruto using NTCM and above lets him use KURAMA'S Negative Emotion sensing which can sense certain negative emotions coming from living things, should we actually consider that making Naruto a Sensor type? I don't think so as it's literally Kurama's ability. Also, The ability to sense another Otsutsuki is stated to be an Otsutsuki ability, as well as concealing chakra right?? So if we give Naruto Kurama's sensing ability and that makes him a sensor type then we should give Boruto Momoshiki's Otsutsuki sensing ability making him a sensor type since Kawaki who is also Otsutsiki never sensed Boruto, he was only able to know because of his Shadow Clone. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 23:31, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The thing is, this is a tailed beast ability, which we've always associated with the jinchuriki if they can access it while in control of themselves. Removing negative emotion sensing because it's Kurama's is the same thing as removing Tailed Beast Ball from from every jinchuriki who is able to use it. Same for every other Tailed Beast Ball derived jutsu. One thing that still puzzles me is the wave patterns Kawaki mentioned. What does that even mean? Anyway, this topic tires me. List Boruto as a sensor then, maybe this wave pattern turns out to be something that also allows sensing other stuff beyond Otsutsuki. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:15, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, and the moment we get info that cements him as not a sensor type if that does come about we can simply remove it from Boruto's infobox. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 22:21, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Previous Image
I see that the previous image for the information has been replaced with a new one. I couldn't find the old one anywhere and I personally think that it should be put back, because it shows Boruto's face more clearly and depicts him smiling, which is better than not smiling. What do you guys think?Darwin R. C. A. P. N. Watterson (talk) 21:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Species
Since the latest chapter had Momoshiki reveal that Boruto had become a pure full-blooded Ōtsutsuki, shouldn't Boruto's species now be classified as "Celestial Being" just like the other Ōtsutsuki members?

HygorBohmHubner (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It's tricky. On one hand, Boruto still looks like himself, not to mention Momoshiki even claims portion of his data was rewritten into Boruto's own cells, so eh... in my opinion, I still stand firm that Karma getting extracted into a vessel doesn't actually replace their DNA/cells whatever until the reincarnation itself takes place. If anything, Boruto still has his own DNA/cells and Momoshiki's in one body... in a way he is a hybrid more than anything, but that's just my opinion.Elve Talk Page 21:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Celestial Being hybrid is also an option as shown by Toneri. Arcadia warlic (talk) 03:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I agree with both cause given he's purely a Ōtsutsuki but ain't himself is tricky so yes I would go with Hybrid but would also go with Celestial Being, i'm torn in between both choices but Hybrid sounds much better just to not complicate this as it is. Garnet von Schweetz (talk) 12:40 pm, 24 February 2022
 * If it's stated he is full Otsutsuki, then that should be what we document. Munchvtec (talk) 12:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * But the dialogue also states part of Momoshiki's data got converted into Boruto's own cells. Not to mention I am still of the notion that the rewrite itself happens only during the process of resurrection, meaning Boruto's DNA and cells are untouched, so technically he IS and ISN'T an Otsutsuki at the same time. I think hybrid is safer.Elve Talk Page 12:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm actually really liking this conversation. There are two points that I want to make first however. From what I read at least, Momoshiki mentioned the following quote: "...you are now a pure, genuine, complete Ōtsutsuki..." What I could see from this is that Boruto himself is merely a skin for Momoshiki, but also carrying an active consciousness. Since the extraction is complete, I feel like Boruto's genetic makeup actually ceased to exist now that his body was overwritten by Momoshiki. The application and process of the extraction already happened, but with a minor error (the opportunity of resurrection being nuked). That doesn't change the fact that Boruto himself has been overwritten at this point internally. I think it's safe to say he's a pure Ōtsutsuki based on that conjecture. Now the issue with this, would be that Jigen himself would have to be labeled as one as well. Unlike Boruto, Isshiki took the extra steps and actually resurrected from Jigen. He didn't want to (and enjoyed his numerous wines and good food) because he was waiting on Kawaki's full extraction, so Elve makes a pretty solid point that since the resurrection in Boruto actually has not (and based on what we know, will not), take place, he isn't an Ōtsutsuki. -Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work } 13:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't really think the Karma rewrites/replaces DNA or cells though. Otherwise Boruto would look exactly like Momoshiki and if not Boruto, then Jigen would have turned into Isshiki by his introduction, because cells regenerate circa every 7-10 years or so. I think it's a case of chimerism... Boruto simply carries Momoshiki's DNA inside of his body as well. I think the replacement process occurs only during resurrecting, hence that's why the host dies.Elve Talk Page 15:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I think from a purely biological standpoint, it's correct. The "overwriting" part is what throws me off though. I'm not saying that Boruto's own DNA is wiped out, but rather overwritten by Momoshiki's to hold a dominant genetic template over Boruto's own. It's kinda why I mentioned that his own template ceased to exist, as it is no longer solely his. -Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work } 17:04, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Only skimmed through the above, so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else already said. Based on what Momo said, the way understand what happened to Boruto is as follows. Imagine Momo and Boruto are two music files. Momo's file was overwriting Boruto's file, but that stopped and some of Boruto's song remained. Because he said his own data in the Kama was already Otsutsuki, I think this means that despite Boruto still having his own data, the fact is his data is now in an Otsutsuki file format. The Kama was able to heal Boruto because Boruto's data was reformatted into the Otsutsuki file format, allowing the Kama program to play the new organ files. You can have two files with the same song in it, but encoded with different codecs and stored under different formats. Based on this, I think the most accurate course of action would be to change Boruto's species to how list any other full Otsutsuki. Does my file format analogy make sense? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)