Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180719181710/@comment-26107879-20180901151520

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Actually the difference between the two was shown. Madara actually knew and witnessed Tobirama fight, since he killed his brother before his eyes. Kakuzu was never stated to have anything to do with Tobirama. Madara also knew Tobirama's techniques, stated when he overcame the Reanimation. This was never stated about Kakuzu. Kakuzu cannot see through Shadow Clones and detect the original, Madara can. The differences are clear.

Also. If you're trying to say Kakuzu lost in a 1v1 even though he had experience, then you are wrong. In fact, their first encounter showed how deadly experience is. Naruto with no experience, rushed in head on, and was literally stopped and almost killed in just a single scuffle. If it had not been for Yamato and Kakashi, he'd be dead. Not to mention, he already had a few of his hearts already smashed. Experienced pretty much killed Naruto there. The only reason he came through is cause he was saved. And he used that experience to trick him to get a shot off. Even then, the fight was a draw. Both were incapacitated. Kakashi had to finish Kakuzu off.

As for Kakuzu and the warring states, he did experience them as a teen. Hiruzen was stated to be apart of the first generation of Shinobi of Konohagakure. With that being said, seeing Kakuzu was around 19 years older (he was 91 when he died and Hiruzen was 69 when he died), this means as a teen, he experienced the ending of the warring states and the coming about of the Shinobi Villages.

Madara however, was said to experience decades of the Warring States. So his time in the war was much longer than Kakuzu's. And Madara had just as much power as he did experience making him far more deadlier. Not to mention he went against the best of the best countless times, where as Kakuzu only did once. It's basically like comparing Sasuke to Shikamaru. Sure, Shikamaru is a very powerful Shinobi even said to be Hokage material, but at the level of Sasuke? Nah. So comparing someone so minuscule to someone else, will not work.