Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170904204034/@comment-33308438-20171010180030

Ninja Of War wrote: @Natrix

So, you can't back up your statements?

As mentioned before, A was raging out and coming straight at Sasuke, Sasuke was charging towards A as well, all Sasuke had to do was use his Sharingan to duck under A's attack. Not the best indication of speed.

Sasuke needs thunderclouds to perform Kirin, thats the whole point of the technique, so yes, he needs quite a bit of preparations.

It was rudimentary, or are you claiming it was one of Hashirama's high level techniques? Which one was it then?

Again, Jiraiya is a mid-ranged fighter, so please stop with the blitz argument. Jiraiya not getting blitzed.

I said a toad could reverse summon him. Also he could just slip into a barrier or another toad and escape. But, Kirin itself is unlikely to be used, due to the preparations I mentioned. If Kirin is in play, then SM with the two sage toads would also be in play. Which would add the possibility of Jiraiya dodging Kirin.

Jiraiya can use lion mane or swamp technique to immobilize Susanoo. He can also summon Gamabunta, who can definitely deal with Susanoo. UBBR appears to be able to break apart Susanoo. Don't forget toad chant and all the other sage techniques. There's also summoning:toad mouth bind and food cart destroyer. Don't underestimate him, even though this Sasuke will lol. Lol to toad mouth bind, something which was tore off by amaterasu lol. So now your argument is A was raging lmfaoooooo, ok so according to your logic, KCM naruto also dodged his punch bcuz A was raging right?Since A was raging with the intent to kill him like he said later lmfaooooooo. Weak argument and simply baseless speculation.

Hashirama cells is hashirama cells. You brought another weak argument with nothing to back up your claim. The fact he said he cannot control hashirama cells so its outbreaking and converting his arm into a gigantuc tree clears all doubts. That wasnt a technique but has the same durability of hashirama's tree. Fact.

Sasuke was going to use kirin against team 7, the only reason he never used it was because oro stopped him and said "I wouldnt use that technique if I was you". He can control lightning with his chakra as clarified, he was outta chakra in itachi fight so he used natural lightning, which is used either way as the keypoint is bringing lightning down, doesnt matter how, he can do it with chakra or by bringing thunderclouds.

Lmao none of jiraiya's defenses has the durability of gaara's sand which was pierced through chidori by part 1 Sasuke.

Toad summons would get thier heads sliced off with chidori spear or get pierced by senbons.

Lmao where is jiraiya's speed feat if you may? Please. Otherwise this is too much fanboyism in one thread, you never provide any feat , still say jiraiya would evade Sasuke lmfao good luck avoiding something which A couldnt.

SusanoO arrow is faster than TBB as proven in the war arc. Good luck dodging that.

Dont bring that typical toad argument lmao, beings who got soloed by one shinra tensei and bansho tenin. Lmfao you're not serious.

Swamp technique dont work, you've having nothing else to say , so you're reaching for the stars , the only time SusanoO was penetrated underground even though the War arc had all the earth shinobi in the entire verse in one platform , was gaara with his sand. But the thing is someone as skilled as onoki didnt use underground earth techniques nor did any earth shinobi. Gaara sand has the spirit of his mother, as his father stated. Thats why it was capable of penetrating SusanoO. That's also the reason onoki lightened his gourd sand to mix with the ground sand. So swamp not doing shit.

Namikaze@ lmao that was incomplete ribcage lol you're reaching for the heavens, aren't you? This Sasuke has access to the third level, V3 , how the hell is jiraiya breaking that? And no A didnt crack it fully, otherwise he would've penetrated the SusanoO and pulled Sasuke out or punched him inside the hole which clearly didn't happen.

And lmao, when has rage ever inhibited an individual's speed?If anything it has only increased it lmfao or prove rage inhibited A's speed, I'm sick of these baseless claims.

Also just because his speed was amplified by pre-cog, you're saying he wouldnt use sharingan to percieve jiraiya's movements?You're tripping.

All you say are baseless assumptions, twisting manga facts and feats. Give a feat or statemebt saying jiraiya can evade or perform hand seals to perform jutsu in time(When danzo couldnt perform hand seals clearly) to block SusanoO arrow.

Also toad mouth bind durability is trash, SusanoO which has broken harder things will tear it apart. Not to mention Sasuke with chidori is literally A in the eyes of jiraiya.