Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-34661853-20181111160651/@comment-34661853-20181115143322

LegionZero wrote: LoneNinja wrote:

I don't see anything cryptic about it. Kabuto stated he was using Hashirama's cells and his healing to heal Sasuke. Can't get anymore obvious than that. Not in every translation and even the official ones arent always accurate. I cant seem to get the translator on here around here to give me a clear translation and ive had this discussion many many times before.

LoneNinja wrote:

You also don't need Sharingan to get Rinnegan, that cannot be argued with. Momoshiki has nothing other than Rinnegan. Kaguya has none other than Rinne-Sharingan, Sharingan is a mutation of Rinnegan which is a mutation of Rinne-Sharingan. You guys are looking at the evolution like this,

Sharingan -> Mangekyo -> Eternal Mangekyo -> Rinnegan -> Rinne-Sharingan.

When you should be looking at it like this.

Rinne-Sharingan -> Rinnegan -> all Sharingans. I look at it as the eye that holds the Sharingan also holds the Rinnegan.

RinneSharingan->Sharinga+Rinnegan->Rinne->Eye of the descendant

RinneSharingan->Sharingan+Rinnegan->MS->Sharingan->Eye of the descendant

I think of it as the 2 seperate dojutsu with seperate pre-reqs that lie dormant in the eyes of distant descendants of the original RinneSharingan bearer. I think the eye just needs 6 Paths chakra of to awaken the Rinnegan, not specifically Hagoromo's. Rinnegan seems to be dominant over the Sharingan.

The more diluted the bloodline becomes, the less likely they are to have Rinnegan, allowing the Sharingan to manifest.

Since pretty much every Otsutsuki has 6 Paths chakra, chances are that they wont have just the Sharingan.

LoneNinja wrote:

Momoshiki and Urashiki destroy that theory of needing Sharingan. The fact that they even have Rinnegan shows that you don't need Hagoromo's Chakra anymore and therefore is retconned. Not necessarily a retcon. Until Momo and Ura showed up, Hagoromo was the only person on Earth to have a Rinnegan and as a result only his chakra carried the traits necessary to obtain it.

The only ootsutsuki that had rinnesharingan was the kaguya and the other ootsutsukis had only had the rinnegan so far. The hagoromo is very close to the ootsutsuki so it supported and awakened the rinnegan and had no sharingan and his descendant awakened the sharingan, kaguya heritage.

What I believe LegionZero meant is that only a human capable of awakening / supporting a sharingan would be able to do the same thing with rinnegan.