Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-5547501-20150720121146

QuakingStar wrote: "Hiruzen earned the title of Professor for being a Researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them both. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama. Mastery of all five Nature Alterations, Hiden, Genjutsu, and all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha. Hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with Ninjutsu. To him, everyone in the village is his family member"

I read a proper translation for Madara's statement and he definitely says in life he and Tobirama were virtually the same. The part about the brothers comes after that statement.

Thanks for posting the translation. I suppose then that Hiruzen beats Tobirama, if he really surpassed him. It isn't that difficult to believe but I still have trouble wrapping my head around the idea that Hiruzen was stronger in his prime then Hashirama and thus Madara as well. Oh well, Kishi's story is Kishi's, he can hype up one character in the manga and another in the Databooks if he wants.