Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-4961229-20170503044630

People claim Naruto had no defense against Sasuke's Susanoo arrow, because he couldn't dodge it. Sage Naruto wouldn't have to dodge it. It's not an exploding arrow like Indra's Bow. It's just a tangible arrow made out of chakra. He could catch it or knock it aside. We know he could do this because he has threat perception to alert him, sage speed to react, and the sage strength that stopped a charging summons dead in its tracks. The only Susanoo arrow that might harm Naruto is the Amaterasu arrow and Sasuke didn't figure out how to do that until EMS. And it's a 50/50 toss up as to whether Naruto can shed Amaterasu with frog katas' natural energy the way he shed it with his cloak later on. The two behave similarly. Sasuke's genjutsu is the major threat to Naruto. He doesn't appear to have a defense against it at that time. BlazeRelease wrote: "Raikage shows his amazing speed, and then Sasuke uses chidori which hits Raikage, to his own surprise to which he says that even touching him with this speed is a feat that of it's own." You remember wrong. Sasuke avoided Raikage's elbow using his 3 tomoe Sharingan. We know this, because as they're charging towards one another there's a closeup on Sasuke's eye lit up by the Raiton Armor's glow and in the very next panel he ducks under the elbow. We know he didn't use speed alone to do this, because in the first VotE fight he realizes that with the third tomoe he can conserve energy and use Sharingan prediction to fight an opponent, whose movements, he couldn't even follow before. He only needs enough speed to be able to react to his upgraded perceptions.

Raikage was only surprised that Sasuke's chidori, which he recognized as Kakashi's jutsu, could penetrate his Raiton armor. It's called armor for a reason, as we saw in chapter 462, where Sasuke's chidori sword bounces off Raikage's armor as Raikage just stands there looking evil, while Sasuke attacks him. Raikage said nothing at all about his speed. It wouldn't make sense for him to mention his speed since Raikage hadn't even gone full out yet. He only powered up his chakra to tailed beast levels to energize his shuunshin after Sasuke activated his Mangekyou Sharingan. Sasuke only did that later in the fight.

BlazeRelease wrote: "The sensors have figured out that Sasuke coming their way fast. They are waiting in that room when one of them says that he came, but only sees some flags being cut off by a sword slash. they look a for a minute and if you watch or read again you can see the yamanaka guy looking sideways searching for Sasuke and then just looking to see him up there. No one saw him up going up there even though they were facing the entrance room. That's a blizt! that's why he was shown running to the room." Nobody's doubting Sasuke's speed, but you're seriously exaggerating here. There are at least two entrances to that room: the door and the hole Raikage left in the wall. Sasuke was never shown running to the room, nor how he entered. You're just assuming he entered through the same door Karin did later on. If someone is coming and you don't know exactly where they're coming from, how are you supposed to react to them?

Besides blitzing is what Raikage and Minato do; two ninjas facing each other. As you saw, Minato didn't react to Raikage until his fist was a split second from his face. Sasuke would have to attack someone like that, while they fail to react in order to Blitz someone. He didn't attack anybody. I guess you think Danzou Blitzed Sasuke when he appeared above him using Izanagi, while it took a moment for Sasuke to figure out where he was.

Karen demonstrates all the time that being a top tier sensor doesn't allow you to react to anybody's movements. Only the sensors knew where Sasuke was. None of the sensors, except Ao, could track his speed anyway. Ao has his Byakugan active and so knew exactly where he was before anybody. In that room only Mifune had any speed feats at all. No sensor tells him where Sasuke is until the last minute. The sensors were weak or average in Taijutsu. The other particular Kages in that room weren't taijutsu masters either so it tells you nothing about his speed if they're blitzed or not.

BlazeRelease wrote:"He did have shisui's eye and he could have used his MS byt not it's special which is Koto, because he used it already. but he very well knew that it would be useless against a pure blooded MS Uchiha prodigy and believed that the Izanagi was the only way to win." Without both eyes the only MS Shisui's eye has is Koto. Not sure what you're thinking Danzo would want to use it for except Koto. He's not going to have a taijutsu or regular genjutsu fight with Sasuke. That wouldn't be to his advantage, although 3 tomoe sharingan would help him avoid some attacks and conserve chakra. He was trying to decide whether or not to use Koto against Tobi or Sasuke when his eye came back online, as Tobi stated. No. Koto wouldn't be useless against a pure blood Uchiha. We saw Koto work against a pure blood Uchiha named Itachi. Otherwise, that voids Itachi's whole plan to brainwash Sasuke. Danzo's sharingan was useless until it came back online at the end of the fight. If it came back sooner, Danzo could've Koto'd Sasuke into believing he had a death wish and should unzip himself from his jaws to his balls with Chidori.