Narutopedia talk:Naming policy

English or Most-Common name?
Do we use the most-common name, or do we use the Official name for naming things... because Viz uses "The Foundation" while most scanlations use "Root"... and it doesn't talk about us using official names or fan names.Shirokage 00:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)shirokage
 * Viz is using "The Foundation", then uses of Root should be changed. We use official names, not poorly translated fan names. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 12, 2008 @ 02:00 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out Ne, does correctly translate into Root. So technically its not a poorly translated name but its english version. Just felt like pointing that out...^_^--TheUltimate3 03:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Still, Ne was translated by VIZ as "The Foundation" so that's what NP should use.

Romaji v. "English" name
Again, I find errors in the rules.

The sentence regarding Pain says "When a character has not appeared in the dub or been listed in a databook, then Japanese romaji for their name is used for the primary name. " but it says "Pain not Pein". That makes no sense... The romaji says "Pein" so why isn't Pein used? &#91;&#91;User: Shirokage&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:Black; color:#FDF5E6&quot;&gt;白&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:Black&quot;&gt;影&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;User talk: Shirokage&#124;&lt;sup&gt;Talk to Shirokage&lt;/sup&gt;&#93;&#93; 02:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, forgot to click "Raw signature"... 白 影  Talk to Shirokage 02:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Because Pain has appeared in a databook as "Pain". Perhaps the sections are not clear, you could fix them up. The issue looks like you are confused about what note is for what examples. The examples are below the note on them. If you read it that way then the page should start to make more sense to you. Open for suggestions on what kind of formatting will make that easier to see. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 17, 2008 @ 02:50 (UTC)


 * I was reading it wrong. I thought the part "When a character has not appeared in the dub or been listed in a databook, then Japanese romaji for their name is used for the primary name. " was for Pain, while it was "hen a character has not yet appeared in the English dub then the Official name listed in the latest version of the databook should be used as the primary name." (i.e. I thought the rule was below the example, when it was vice versa). 白 影  Talk to Shirokage 02:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Jutsu Names
The Jutsu names section completely violates almost all rules set in English anime Wiki's. English names should always be used. This is not a fan database, it is a formal encyclopedia, and thus English names should be used. 白 影 Talk to Shirokage 02:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * There was a large discussion on how to name jutsu awhile back. We decided on sticking with the literal translation of the kanji for the justu name. The main rationales I can remember were:


 * The Japanese name of the jutsu is the most correct original form of a name.
 * However both the kanji and romaji forms of most jutsu names are extremely hard for English readers to understand and would make reading articles tough.
 * There is an extreme quantity of Jutsu, many of these take ages before they ever get an official English name.
 * If we opted for using some variant of the Japanese name till the English name came out, then the wiki would end up extremely inconsistent and it would be extremely hard to keep it up to date.
 * Using literal translations also makes us reasonably compatible with Wikipedia's content.
 * Do understand that we are not using fan names, we are using the literal translation of the kanji (As you can see by our use of Fire Release: Intelligent Hard Work instead of "Fire Release: Cranium Carver" which is the fan name used by fansubs). Also understand that this policy is far from violating things as you think, in fact I believe Wikipedia pretty much uses the same policy on naruto jutsu names. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 18, 2008 @ 03:22 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia always uses the official name, unless there is none, in which case the most common name is used for "Fire Release: Intelligent Hard Work" "Fire Release: Cranium Carver" would have been used (most likely, as it's the common name). Read Wikipedia:WP:MOS-JP, and Wikipedia:WP:MOS-AM. 白 影  Talk to Shirokage 20:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)