Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-36366948-20200810034621

All of you are misunderstanding my point. What I'm saying is that the Kage (while they have the post) should be unique. Kakashi is now well past his prime. Sure Sasuke and Sarada can use the chidori, but its still Kakashi who invented the thing. The whole reason Tobirama is renowned is because he invented jutsu that people perfected. Even if Minato is better and Flying Raijin and Kabuto is better at Edo Tensei doesn't detract from the fact that he was a powerful kage level shinobi. You yourself said that shiden is like the jutsu the 3rd Raikage uses, and called me stupid for saying that makes him kage level.

Also you say that Hiruzen using Hiden techniques isn't canon because he never used them, but then right after you say that Kurotsuchi is suddenly great at genjutsu despite her never using it. Even she can't use it against Otsutsukis, she could've still used in her other fights (like the Mitsuki arc).

While Naruto may use the Rasengan and Shadow Clone jutsu, which aren't his, the things he does with them basically make them whole new jutsu. That coupled with the Rasenshuriken, KCM and SPSM set him apart as a unique shinobi that uses his own developed jutsu.

I'm not 'gatekeeping' the Kage post, it's not like I can change anything by doing so. I'm pointing out the facts that the don't show prowess befitting a 5 kage we've seen before. They have average intellect, common kekkei genkai and haven't created any new jutsu.

While it's obvious that they've improved since the war, how the hell did they reach Kage level? During the 4th Shinobi World War, Kurotsuchi was just jonin level. What sudden improvement would she have shown that the jonin at that time would not have shown. Her current arsenal is the exact same as her war jutsu, so why couldn't the other jonin reach the same level that she did? It's probably just that Ohnoki chose her because she was his granddaughter, not because she had 'special abilities'. He didn't even bother teaching her his signature jutsu.

Chojuro is just a guy with a sword. Plain and simple. He was literally only selected due to his proficiency with Hiramekarei and the fact that Kishimoto couldn't be bothered to introduce more than 3 important mist characters, one of them going rogue post-war. Like I said, so what if Chojuro beat a bunch of genin and a single chunin, any high jonin level ninja could deal with them. You yourself said that the kids didn't know how to use any of the blades, making it even easier.

The whole point of this question is that they dealt with Kinshiki rather easily, even though he gave Sasuke a run for his money, which confuses me on Kinshiki's actual power. It's likely that Sasuke made a plan with them to deal with Kinshiki, otherwise they would have been obliterated.

At the end of the day this is my opinion. If you think that Kurotsuchi and Chojuro are on the same level as Darui and Gaara more power to you.