User talk:Hmalkhawam

Hi Malkhawam! I just wanted to give you a special note. If you got one of your very interesting thoughts directed to me and I don't answer it after a few days, give me a note on my own talk page and I check it as soon I can. Jacce 16:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks Jacce! malkhawam

Answer to Moves
The things that happends in the games are not considerd to be canon. However, in Shippuden he uses a more concentrated Chidori, even compared to Kakashis Raikiri, at least in Part I. When Sasuke is fighting Deidara, Deidara calls it Raikiri, although Sasuke corrects him with: "it is called Chidori". When Sasuke first learned Chidori, Might Guy called it: "Chidori, nicknamed Raikiri after Kakashi splited a lightning with it". I think that Chidori is the jutsus real name, while the term Raikiri that is used only by Kakshi to describe his more focused form of Chidori. After Orochimarus traing with Sasuke, Sasuke's Chidori is presumably worthy to be called Raikiri, although he seams to prefer to use the name Chidori. Jacce 05:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Since it seams like Kyubi was in control of Naruto when he enterd the Four-Tailed Transformation, I would say that the four tailed strong ball is a move used by the fox, which would mean that a nine tailed ball would be a fox move to. Considering the Three Tailed beast lack of intelligence, I would say that the ball move was something created by the fox using Naruto's mind. The Eight Tailed beast seams to be abel to use something similar, so I guess it simply is a massive amount of chakra fokused into a ball. Jacce 07:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I think you have a point there. They all have similar moves, which is why I said it was a massive amount of chakra fokused by the Jinchūriki. Since all the tailed beasts are "chakra monsters", I think thay all are capable to release a big amount of chakra without risking death. They are just using different types, like Shukaku who has a affinity for air uses Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet while Nibi has a affinity for Fire and uses a fire blast. Eight and Nine however are so powerful thay can use pure chakra instead of element affinitys. That's what I believe. Jacce 08:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I hope I understood you right if I give you this answer: When Naruto uses the fox chakra up to the third tailed transformation the fox chakra leaks out and creates a shield around Naruto, sometimes called "chakra cloak". When he comes to the fourth tailed transformation the chakra cloak replaces his skin and transform Naruto to a medium for the fox chakra. So the forth tail transformation is simply the same chakra cloak as before, it has just more power and have replaced Naruto's skin. If you remember, Orochimaru's Kusanagi sword couldn't pierce the fourth tail transformation's skin. Jacce 09:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

They were presumably refering to his Kamui jutsu, but it was just vandalism. Jacce 06:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

The Rasengan he created with just Kyubi's power during the fight in the valley of the end has been nicknamed "Demon Fox Rasengan", but since Naruto seems unabel to maintain his mind from the Four-Tailed Transformation and forward, I think Kyubi wouden't use Rasengan, but if he would, it would supposedly be "Nine Tailed Rasengan" to separate the two. If my memory serves, Naruto has been given a full Nine-Tailed Transformation in some games, but not in the manga or the anime. The farest he have gone in the manga/anime is the Four-Tailed Transformation. My best guess about Sasuke's jutsu in episode 53 is that he was going to use Kirin. The stance is the same, although he diden't created any storm clouds. Don't know why: from story view I would say the considerd the clouds to be enough; and from real world view: Masashi Kishimoto diden't want to unfold Sasuke's new mysterious jutsu or just haden't completed the jutsu yet. Jacce 18:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Something that goes for everything from the games: it is not canon. So no, Naruto has not a nine-tailed transformation. Jacce 19:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. For now, he just have a miniature fox form. If he ever will be abel to use a full beast form depends on the seal on his stomach, his willpower and mental strength, if he survives Pain and Sasuke's attack and if Sakura dosen't beat him to death the next time he does something stupid and perverted. Jacce 19:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

That depends if someone else knows the jutsu. If Amaterasu should be transfered it must be done by either Sasuke or possible Mandara. Jacce 06:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry again. I think it still works, but we can't be sure until Mandara shows his face for Sasuke again. Jacce 06:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I know is that Itachi gave Naruto "some of my [Itachi's] power". What it was is still unknown, although I guess we will found out if/when Sasuke and Naruto fight next time. Itachi's gift to Sasuke was definitely Transcription Seal: Amaterasu and possible Tsukuyomi & Susanoo. Mandara says: "he [Itachi] transfered all his eye jutsus to you [Sasuke]", but it could be a mistranslation. Jacce 06:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I know for sure that Sasuke gain after absorbing Orochimaru is a improved healing factor, (he confirms this after his fight with Deidara when Snake leavs after discovering that the eight man squad is comming). And as far as I know, Orochimaru is the only one that knows how to use Living Corpse Reincarnation. Jacce 05:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean with "Raku". I have looked at Narutopedia and Leafninja and Google and haven't found anything that matches Chidori: Raku. The word "Raku" translated into English (using a dictionary) means "comfort (an), ease". Jacce 05:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * After reading TheUltimate3's messages I can only give you this advice: either you wait until Accel 2 it released in a English language or you ask someone who knows better Japanese then me. And a good suggestion is Dantman. Jacce 06:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Rinnegan could maybe inverse Living Corpse Reincarnation, but it is not sure. And the only time Kabuto has been seen with Orochimaru absorbed is when he found Yamato, Hinata and Naurto, giving them info about Akatsuki, so his new power is unknown. Jacce 06:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

So far he has only used one at the time. If he can use more is unknown. Jacce 05:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

A chidori with more power would presumably just enhance its power, although it is powerful just as it is, so more power could result in fewer chidoris that day or death for the user. To make it more concentrated, (like Kakashi's raikiri or Sasuke's chidori in part 2), the user would need to improve his/her chakra control. Jacce 07:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

A non-concentrated Chidori is more or less a big ball of electricity, a concentrated chidori is smaller, presumably more powerful, and looks more like a glove (refered to Raikiri by Kakashi). More thrust (I suppose higher speed), means that the hand holding the chidori cuts deeper. Jacce 12:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The reason the user must run in a straight line while using chidori is because it gives most thrust. Chidori is properly speaking just a ball of electricity surrounding the hand. In order to use it, the user must run at high speed (creating more power than just a simple punch) and throw a punch with the chidori hand. The force in the movement and the electricity cuts just about everything. Less thrust means less cutting power. Jacce 19:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I hope I got this right. At I would say he is doing a part II Chidori, also known as Raikiri (Kakashi only), and  he is using a part I chidori. And for the record, chidori senbon, chidori blade (and as far as I know) all Sasuke's new lightning moves starts with a chidori, then he is using shape manipulating chakra to form the chidori into whatever he needs. And since amaterasu is using fire, it might be a fire element jutsu, but since it's kekkei genkai, it's hard to say. Jacce 07:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

When Sasuke is using Kirin he is using natural lightning manipulated and controlled by a chidori. That might be considerd to be a mix of normal chidori with natural lightning. If he can use it the other way around is unknown and will supposedly stay unknown since he has Kirin. All I can say is that he would survive, since Kakashi once (according to Might Guy) cut a lightning in half with a chidori. After that, Kakashi nicknamed chidori to raikiri. Jacce 12:44, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

In part I Sasuke's chidori was more white than Kakashi's chidori/raikiri (that was more blue with a white core), supposedly because Kakashi had better control over his chakra. So far Sasuke has not used a normal chidori in the Shippūden anime, but I guess it is more blue, like Kakashi's raikiri. For Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana, Sasuke is sending a chidori into his sword blade, (at least if you trust Yamato). And in chapter 392 page 2, Itachi says that Susanoo was awaken with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi "within these eyes on that fateful day". So yes, Susanoo is a mangekyo technique. Jacce 14:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

naruto accel 2
Sorry, I haven't played that. You can try to put your question on Naruto Shippūden: Narutimate Accel 2 talkpage or try to look on the internet, there are many pages that shares game secrets. Jacce 11:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

As I said above, I haven't played that. Jacce 14:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No.KazeKitsune 06:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Water Prison Technique
Hello Malkhawam! What do you think of this thought Talk:Water Prison Technique? Jacce 20:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Chidori
Chidori: Thunderclap & Chidori: Thunder has already been given a tag. You should put your thoughts on the pages talk pages. Jacce 14:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Sora
The part with Sora's Kyubi chakra absorbed is true as far as I remember. However I don't think anyone has said who was the strongest, so that is up to anyones guess. Jacce 06:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Since Sora is a anime only character I doubt Naruto will be affected. However, I think it is possible that Kyubi got a boost of power with the absorbation.

Kirin
When Sasuke uses Kirin he first warn up the sky with Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique, then he uses a Chidori to draw down the lightning from the sky towards his opponent. Kirin is a independent jutsu, but requires a Chidori to prefrom. Jacce 07:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Kirin with colors.jpg
Malkhawam, the image you uploaded to Image:Kirin with colors.jpg is a fan coloring of Image:Kirin.PNG, please don't upload it to the wiki. We do not use fan colorings in article, they are poor depictions of original artwork, and also carry copyright issues along with them. But in addition to that, we always prefer images with proper fair use rationales over those that would be tagged for deletion, so it wouldn't have been accepted in the article anyways as there is already an image with a proper rationale. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 6, 2008 @ 17:35 (UTC)

Mangekyou Sharingan
Malkhawam, "Mangekyou Sharningan" is incorrect, the name is "Mangekyo Sharningan" (Technically "Mangekyō Sharningan" but we drop the macron inside normal content). "Mangekyou Sharningan" is romanization using wāpuro rōmaji, similar to Wikipedia (and apparently Viz as well) we use Revised Hepburn romanization. Please leave the name as "Mangekyou Sharningan". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 7, 2008 @ 06:43 (UTC)

Light and dark = number six?
No, I don't have any idea of what light and dark chakra is nor what the sixth element is. All I know for sure is that light and dark has something to do with the clan related jutsus, like Nara's shadow jutsu, and the healning chakra. When Naruto asks Kakashi about shadow jutsus and healing, Yamato comments that bringing up light and dark chakra would give Naruto more to think of, so the Jonins desided to wait. Some peple belive that controling light and dark is the sixth element, but I doupt it. Sorry I couldn't give you a better answer, you just have to wait until they tell it in the manga. Jacce 18:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Fine I will.
But do not keep adding that crap to the Chidori page. It's a game technique, not worth mentioning in the Chidori article.--TheUltimate3 17:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I got all they games in naruto. They mentioned that in the games. So leave it and don't talk with me again.


 * You...you do realize I have a Banhammer right? Regardless, if you have the games you would know that Chidori: Thunderclap, and Chidori: Thunder are two differnet techniques in the Naruto Shippuuden: Narutimate Accel 2 game. Don't tell me they are not because I am looking at them right now. Those two things don't have any business being in the main article.--TheUltimate3 17:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Then if you were so smart do the Chidori: Thunder page and I will check it. If it was right I will take the information off.


 * I refuse your challenge as I have more important things to do. Regardless I don't own the Accel 2 because it's not out in America yet. I do have this. From GameFaqs.com, go down the list to Uchiha Sasuke, and you will see both Chidori: Jinrai (Thunderclap), and Chidori: Raimei (Thunder).--TheUltimate3 17:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Chidori
Ok, Malkhawam here's what it breaks down to:
 * You've been running in circles on the talkpage.
 * 4 users have spoken up against your edit on the talkpage.
 * It's not fair to the rest of the editors if Chidori stays protected preventing the article from being properly improved just cause you want to add something other editors speak up against.
 * You are free to continue discussion on Talk:Chidori as long as you remain civil and patient. No-one is under an obligation to discuss here, so don't expect immediate responses. After all, I'm a full-time professional Web Developer, I can only get on here for a limited time during the day.
 * The deletion notices are going to be removed from Chidori: Thunder, Chidori: Raku, and Chidori: Thunderclap for now since the current discussion does not really warrant those notices being there.
 * Chidori is going to be unprotected so that other users can improve the article in other ways.
 * Unless you achieve a consensus on the talkpage to add that information to the article, then do not add it into the page.
 * If you abuse your editing privileges and the openness of the wiki by adding that information to Chidori without first getting consensus to do so on the talkpage. Then I will have to block you for being disruptive to the wiki.

The wiki is based on openness, consensus, and citeable sources. You are free to bring up sources and discuss things on the talkpage to try and get a consensus to add the information to the page. But you also have the responsibility of being civil to the other users, and abiding by the consensus of the community. Current concensus is to keep that information out of the page, please abide by that until you can change that consensus. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 20, 2008 @ 17:54 (UTC)


 * Getting an e-mail from another user is not going to cut it Malkhawam. Please discuss things on the talkpage where they are publicly archiveable, and the community can actually provide concensus. You cannot create concensus over private e-mails. Openness is the foundation of the wiki, and thus concensus is not achieved unless things are agreed on within PUBLIC discussion. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 21, 2008 @ 07:06 (UTC)

Do you even remember why I blocked you the last time?
Because you are walking down that exact same road again.--TheUltimate3 18:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Final warning
Malkhawam, you have begun to engage in revert wars again. No-one has agreed with you, you are going completely against consensus, and using false information that even anonymous users are reverting.

On Wikipedia one of the suggestions is to avoid topics you have a personal connection to, to avoid editing bias into them and causing disputes. So this is your final warning.

Please say away from any Chidori related articles from now on. You may continue to edit the wiki, however leave Chidori articles alone. If you cannot abide by this and continue to push your bias into Chidori articles, you will be permanently banned from the Encyclopedia. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 28, 2008 @ 23:28 (UTC)