Talk:Yagura Karatachi

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Gender
There has been a discussion about this character's gender, which is unknown. I started the article with 'male' and 'him', then someone changed everything into 'female' and 'her', then someone else set it back to male. For now we must assume this Jinchuriki is male, but put 'Unknown' as his gender in the infobox. --Shinsaku 22:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Yuukimaru
do you think it's possible that the jinchuriki is Yuukimaru? because Kakashi said that Orochimaru would make a jinchuriki that he could easily control.

Sword? What?
That is clearly a staff weapon and not a sword on this jinchurikis's back. Why do we think it's Mangetsu Hōzuki?
 * You're right. In what world could a giant staff with a hook and a flower growing out of it be considered a sword? XxKibaxX (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Deceased?
Nothing is known about this guy, and nothing is known about the process of removing a tailed beast and setting it free (as opposed to Akatsuki sealing it). The 'age' box should be 'unknown', as the jinchuriki may very well be alive.
 * As far as we know, the removin of a tailed beast results in the death of its host. AlienGamer | Talk 08:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless the Sanbi never had a host: Yagura thus being only its master. Even if it sounds like a forum supposition, Yagura would not have been mentioned in the manga along with three other main characters unless he has a part to play or had a very important part to play (what has already been mentioned by him is not that great... so there will be more about Yagura, soon). I am of the opinion that age should be unknown, not deceased. - MadaraU (talk) 22:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Everything, including the manga, points to Yagura being dead. he was the former Mizukage, the current Mizukage talks about him in the past tense, and he was a jinchūriki beyond any reasonable doubt, meaning he would have died when he lost his Tailed Beast, or vice versa. Only an immense plot twist could bring him back to life. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I take back what I said about him not being a host given that when he first appeared it was said on the cover: a gathering of great hosts. But his deceased status is still something speculated: Sandaime Hokage was considered former Hokage when Minato was Hokage. Past tense means actually nothing when referring to someone, given that when past tense was used, the actions mentioned happened in the past (we are entering grammar lessons:))) ). It is true that the only known way of removing a Bijuu is by killing the host, but as I have just said it is simply the only KNOWN way, not the only way. Another way may exist and Madara chose not to use because this method better suits his evilness:D I again urge you guys to reconsider his deceased status to presumed deceased at best (like in Kushina's case), ja ne - MadaraU (talk) 19:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We can't reconsider his deceased status on the off change there might another way to extract tailed beasts, one that wouldn't kill its host, that's very speculative. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Spe...speculation section?
I'm getting really confused now. I thought we bit the heads off all speculation. But this article has it's own speculation section? What exactly did I miss? ~Hakinu (talk 22:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems that sometimes, some form of speculation is allowed when there are obvious clues to something. Like the glaring similarities between this jinchūriki and Yūkimaru. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * How about the second part, about being Suigetsu's big bro? The only clue is that Sui said he died early. ~Hakinu (talk 22:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That's something I'd remove ^^ --ShounenSuki (talk 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)