Forum:Title Case

Did I miss something? Has title case been declared evil or something? --ShounenSuki (talk 09:28, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah that was what I was trying to figure out.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:28, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I mean, I could just as easily go and revert everything but that could be counter productive...--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:33, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I liked it better when they were capitalized as they looked better. No idea why they were changed. ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 16:42, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia doesn't use title case, and I couldn't think of a particularly good reason why we should. Needing to type "Torune uses Nano-Sized, Poisonous Insects instead of kikaichū because he is awesome" when neither nano, sized, poisonous, nor insects are proper nouns was irritating.
 * Seeing as this problem could have been solved in the interim by simply making redirects, I suppose I should have brought it up first. ~SnapperTo 22:02, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, and the wiki software forces the first character of article titles to be capitalized. In case that was misleading you what with "Ninjutsu" and "Katana". ~SnapperTo 22:12, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's ugly, please, change it back. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:56, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I strongly prefer title case. Technical difficulties should never stand in the way of proper style. --ShounenSuki (talk 23:19, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * So is it being changed back, I would strongly prefer it be done before the daily server update so I can fix all the redirects without having to wait 24hrs. ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 23:21, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

You do know that double redirects can be changed with the click of a button using a bot, right? You don't have to do it manually. --ShounenSuki (talk 23:25, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Really? You see that I didn't know. I've been doing it manually. Would be awesome if their was a bot that checked all of the uploaded images to make sure they're properly licensed and have a fair-use rationale. ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 23:33, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Then we should really come up with a wiki-specific grammar guideline. I suggest the following: Also, why? ~SnapperTo 00:29, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with most of that, but I find putting commas and periods inside quotes, "like this," extremely irksome. I think that it should be done "like this". Logical punctuation ftw. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:38, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


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 * I agree with Omnibender. It should just look as proper & professional as possible. ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 00:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * (momentary lapse) What's with the "two arm" in the plural sections? That's also not good. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:42, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * You can tell how naturally funny a person I am when I need to explain my attempts at humor.
 * Vouwel - read: colour, flavour, neighbour.
 * two arm - versus: Hokages, jutsus, mitochondrias.
 * I was attempting to list stuff that someone disagrees with but is done anyway, as is the case with Omnibender and punctuation. ~SnapperTo 04:23, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, let me state my true opinions on what style we should use on this wiki.
 * Titles should be in title case. I would probably prefer capitalising all words, except for prepositions, articles, conjunctions, and forms of to be.
 * Example: Kiba is a Sexy Beast
 * Articles should be written in the present tense if the subject matter is about something that actually happened in the series. After all, it is always happening at any given time for the readers. Things that happened only in flashbacks or before the series started should probably be written in the past tense.
 * If quotation marks are used for actual quotes, the full stops and commas should be put inside the quotation marks. If the quotation marks are used to mark a special usage of a word, they should be placed outside the quotation marks. Question marks and exclamation points follow logic. If they are a part of the quote, they go inside the quotation marks. If they are not, they go outside.
 * Example 1: "Kiba is a sexy beast," Naruto thought, "but I still prefer Konohamaru."
 * Example 2: You could consider Kiba "sexy" only if by "sexy" you mean "ultra hot".
 * Example 3: She said, "he shouted, 'Kiba is tah smex!'" He asked, "Did he really say 'tah'?"
 * British English spelling and grammar should be preferred over US English. British English is de de facto standard form of English used an taught across the world. Narutopedia caters to an international audience.
 * That means colour, learnt, and organised, instead of color, learned, and organized.
 * Japanese words should not be pluralised.
 * So two jōnin and five kage, instead of two jōnins and five kages.
 * I think I addressed most of the major style issues now... We also went rather off-topic, methinks ^^ Any way, these are my personal preferences, based on my pseudo-professional experience with the English language. --ShounenSuki (talk 16:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh my, every article and the Manual of Style is going to need to be changed. We need more bots; I wish I knew how to make them. ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 16:43, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I return to the paradox of Category:Clans, which sparked this whole episode. ~SnapperTo 22:28, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Paradox? What paradox? --ShounenSuki (talk 01:17, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Foolish me. I must have been thinking of clan-related articles, like Uchiha clan Massacre or Senju clan ancestor. ~SnapperTo 03:28, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, still no paradoxes ^^
 * A~ny~wa~y, I understand there are a lot of articles that need to be fixed, but hey, what else is new? We should at least make a consistent and useful style guide so that we can determine which articles need fixing. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Now I finally have an excuse to use polls. ~SnapperTo 22:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * So...what exactly are we doing now?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:38, April 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should wait a bit so more people can give their input. Can someone put a link to here in that warning thing on the top of every page, kinda like where there is the warning to name animanga's mascot? It should catch someone's eye. Also asking it via edit summary. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:52, April 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest separating the polls out if they are to be the point of interest. Avoids fiddling and doesn't force wadding through the above. ~SnapperTo 03:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * So, are we doing anything? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:29, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * /shrug I said my peace. If there is no further input, I say we get to work.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:27, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * No input in over a week, let's get this in motion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:36, May 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Aye. Lets do it. (I do not know how to use Bots.)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:49, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

How many Pollacks?
Spelling? American English, like color. British English, like colour. Article title? Sentence case, like this. Title Case, Like This. Tense? Present tense, like he says. Past tense, like he said.