Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180621162725/@comment-30323490-20180623132547

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Hashirama's Sage mode won't help against FTG. Madara after dodging the attack clearly states about how he was "lucky". He even mentions the fact that had Tobirama been alive he could have killed him. Perhaps review of 661 might help you. And top of all that Minato's Flying raijin is on whole other level compared to anyone. Also I am quite surprised that people are actually claiming that Hashirama can outlast this Minato. Minato himself as Huge amounts of chakra, if you put Kurama in Mix it should surpass Hashirama.

I don’t know what version of the chapter did you read, but i have never seen Madara stating that he was lucky or that Tobirama could have killed him. And even if Minato is better with hiraijin than Tobirama, Hashirama is also much better with SM than Madara.Madara was only using SM via Hashirama’s chest cells, so that alone says a lot. So in the worst case scenario, things get even out between Minato and Hashirama.Also everybody is ignoring the fact that Madara not only dodged Tobirama but he also caught him and impaled him with rinnegan rods.Tobirama not only got dodged but he also got pretty much killed.

Again, the Wood Dragon alone was able to restrict half of nine-tals and incapacitate him. Madara has the Wood golem which is at least equal to Madara’s PS, he has those wood god gates that could restrict the ten-tails itself, he has that unreal healing superior to Tsunade’s( and tanking ability improved further by SM).Minato is not even doing damage without at least a TBB.Forget about his rasengan and kunais, he simply can’t do jack flip against Hashirama IN BASE, not even SM.And then there is The True Several Thousands Hands with witch Hashirama overwhelmed FULL KURAMA + PS. Minato is simply not winning against full force Hashirama.