Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33229263-20171019104931/@comment-734582-20171021214149

LegionZero wrote: What specifically did Zetsu say about Ashuras reincarnations getting the Rinnegan? He may have very well been trying to have them steal some eyes. That Ashura and Indra chakra recreates Hagoromo's and so brings out the Rinnegan, and that he approached either transmigrant in order to get them to obtain that power.

Mind you, it doesn't rule out the "Sharingan is needed" part because we already know it works. That is, if an Indra has sharingan and obtains an Ashura's flesh, then that creates the Rinnegan. If an Ashura were to transplant an Indra's Sharingan, then that would create the rinngan.

It's just that, it's not the unique cause of awakening the Rinnegan: any flesh from either transmigrant will do. Kabuto/Orochimaru focused on Hashi's Wood Release and the Uchiha's Sharingan because those are the most defining features of either, but they aren't necessary.

In other words, earlier theories of the Rinnegan awakening were generalized. Sure a Sharingan will do, and it will lead to the Rinnegan, but it's not the only way. LegionZero wrote: Actually its not just because the only naturally awakened Rinnegan came from Uchiha, but also the fact that the 2 Ashura descendants retrieved Hagoromos power didnt get a Rinnegan and Hagoromo himself admitted it was a mistake to give all of his power to one child. What exactly he meant with this isn't clear, since it seems to refer to control over Ninshu. We know he gave Ashura control over Ninshu which led to all these troubles. With Naruto and Sasuke, rather than setting them on a path, he in stead offers them advice and power and lets them choose for themselves.

Secondly, as evidenced by Sasuke, it's clear that Hagoromo can entirely decide what powers he gives. So i think it's clear that Hagoromo liked the Eyes/Body divide and so chose to reinforce it further. Giving Naruto the Nine Biju AND the Rinnegan would go entirely against everything he was preaching in that very conversation. Elveonora wrote: Unlike Madara who had more or less same chakra as Hagoromo, Naruto and Sasuke don't have literally 'Hagoromo's chakra' as in 100% the same. Rather, Naruto has a fragment of Hagoromo's chakra which gave him Six Path Senjutsu, while Sasuke has a fragment of Hagoromo's chakra which gave him the Rinnegan. Yup. Besides, hagoromo clearly states that one person shouldn't hold all the power. He then proceeds to give Sasuke a Rinnegan and Naruto the nine Biju, which together is almost but not entirely the power he held. In other words, what Naruto and Sasuke received was 100% intentional, and not some fluke of genes or lacking conditions.