Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29769110-20170327210757/@comment-26773508-20170424150333

Hmm...a few things I'd like to comment on. Perhaps it has been said before, and I'm only repeating myself. If so, I'm sorry. Anyway, here it goes:

1) Pre-TTJ Obito being equal to EMS Madara is indeed mentioned in a Wiki page here. And apparently, the source is one of the databooks. But either this refers to Single-Rinnegan Obito, or it is a flat-out contradiction. Pre-War Obito had no Rinnegan. And during the Five Kage Summit, Obito (disguised as Madara) himself admitted that he was nothing but a shell of his (EMS Madara's) former self. Ohnoki fought EMS Madara and knew his power. He sure as hell found it hard to believe that EMS Madara would take more than a decade to advance his plans. "Madara" responds by saying that the injuries he sustained at VotE was so great that he ended up becoming far weaker than what he was at his prime.

So Pre-War Obito being EMS Madara's equal sounds far-fetched and directly contradicts the manga. EMS Madara's "equal" in strength and abilities wouldn't be fighting Fu and Torune like the way Obito did. So the "equal" to EMS Madara is probably Single-Rinne Obito.

2) EMS Madara most probably had the PS. Edo Madara taunted the Five Kage by saying something along the lines of, "It is said that someone who has witnessed the Perfect Susanoo won't be alive to see it again.", implying that he used the PS on other shinobi before his faked "death" at VotE.

3) EMS Madara takes it imo.