Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170125144949/@comment-28247797-20170428050621

@EternalMangekyōRinneSharingan You don't think the RinneSharingan would do anything in a fight? It's the strongest dojutsu, lol. If anything the Rinnegan and Tailed beast chakra from Madara and Hagoromo will be the deciding factors. So I'm gonna have to severly disagree on the point that the RinneSharingan wouldn't do anything. We don't have feats but by logic new eye powers grant new abilities (Sharingan,MS,EMS,Byakugan,etc.) It's a re-occuring theme. Sure, we haven't seen any feats from it regarding Madara but it's a bit disingenuous to think that it can only do IT. You do realize that the reason Kaguya was able to dimension hop was because of the RinneSharingan correct? Not saying that Madara would do the same, just stating that it's highly unlikely that he wouldn't gain any abilities from obtaining the Rinnesharingan, it's a dojutsu powerup afterall. Regarding Madara's Limbo:

"Perceiving this phantom is impossible, the enemies unpreparedness invites disaster.A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the jutsu user gain a duplicate of himself with "equal ability", but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy. The Rinnegan can shape one shadow. With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4. When fighting the enemy in close combat the shadow will stay away. But after a time the shadow will return." According to a translation from the 4th databook, although we aren't entirely sure seeing as though Madara hasn't displayed it.

Susano'o wouldn't be that big of an advantage for Hag, a pre-Juubi amped Madara was able to subdue all nine tailed beasts with one strike for each beast with just one Limbo, so even if their use of ninjutsu is called into debate their taijutsu should be enough considering there would be five people Hagoromo would essentially face off against. If they both begin absorbing each other's jutsu then it's not as simple as "someone's gonna slip up." Their gonna go into a battle of Taijutsu as ninjutsu would prove ineffective for both, and in terms of that Madara has the superior feats by far. Not only that but he has four Limbo clones of himself, so essentially Hagoromo would have to fight 5 Madaras. I'm sure Hagoromo doesn't slack for taijutsu, but I don't see him fighting off five Madara's all at once especially with the feats he displayed, such as fodderizing seven gate Gai and reacting to Gai in Eight gates. Madara has also instantly regenerated half of his body after absorbing the Shinju tree and claimed immortality, meaning that even if Hagoromo did manage to damage him severely he'd likely recover from it with relative ease, he also has the option to swap himself out with a Limbo clone if things get too nasty. Hagoromo would be far more likely to make a mistake than Madara because he could easily be pressured far more from Limbo.

But this debate in itself is speculation due to the fact that we've never seen Madara go all out, especially in his final form and we haven't seen enough from Hagoromo. We haven't seen enough from both of them. Regarding Susano'o, the only thing I think would be into question is if Madara could use it. "Rinnesharingan." It does have Sharingan in it so maybe you'd also be capable of using your MS techniques? If so then without a doubt Madara's Susano'o would be in an entirely different tier than his previous one. He got Juubi amped and reached the pinnacle of dojutsu.