Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-43375713-20200820154317

Ninja Of War wrote: Tyhandles11 wrote:

you're dense he does have the same speed as manto it's literally in the post above it's two databook translation i gave you and both said his speed is at minato level stop being  dense i gave you my points minato has nothing to damage him and their speed is similar minato is not going to blitz someone who's speed is on the same tier as them  and he never blitz them before since killer bee can react to his attacks and ay wasn't overwhelmed my minato speed either you're obviously a troll or a minato fanboy  kishimoto statements > yours he obviously intented mianto and raiakge to be rivals you're just downgrading ay feats saying he's slow it's no other character in the series besides raiakge that they compared to minato speed  raiakge saying he's faster is subjectie he could've been talking about mianto reactions. minato loses point blank period he's literally outclassed in every catergory chakra reserves stamina physical strength power durabilty etc and their speed is similar it's obvious raiakge is the more powerful shinobi between the two Lol, insults now? Not the mark of someone who has good arguments.

Look again what my original excerpt was:

Fourth Databook Minato: "Praised among all ninja as the greatest in god-like speed"

As in greater than even Ay. And if you read more into Minato's databook entry, it reads: "A handsome man shining with natural-borne talent, like a thunderbolt time and space itself seem to stand still—." That is clearly another league compared to Ay.

Well, my statements come exactly from the fourth databook. Which you have a problem with. Despite claiming yourself to use statements from the same databook. And even with all that, ch542 shows Ay unable to react to Minato's movements, which you have yet to address. As for the rest of my points come from scaling 4th Raikage to 3rd Raikage. Which if you can remember, clone SM Naruto defeated with a regular Rasengan.

Your other points are not even based on the manga, anime or databook.

Lol, Again, answer this:

Ay literally can't react to Minato's movements. So all I see is Ay trying to punch Minato, Minato flicking a FTG-Kunai behind him, and then Minato proceeding to FTG to said kunai. While drilling a big ball rasengan into his head, neck, knee and joints. Every. Single. Time.

If you answer again with insults, it'll be confirmed that you have no argument. you have no arguemts left. i proved to you that mianto isnt faster than ay by much  so he's not winning what part are you not understanding  why didnt  minato react to killer bee movements twice that alone proves  minato isnt that much fast and saying he didnt want to kill bee isn't an  valid point since killer bee reacted to minato twice ay literally in the anime adpatation could track minato movemets he not fast to track he just teleports literally the only thing that's fast about minato is his reaction you keep presenting the same premise a rasengan isnt going to damage someone with above 8 tails durability  are you being serious right now you lost the debate raiakge > minato  naruto kcm mode is stronger than alive mianto and raiakge  would've one shot naruto if it wasn't for bee saving naruto kcm naruto > alive minato