Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34661853-20181224172126/@comment-35409024-20190118004020

MadEyes008 wrote: Prove that Madara prepped Transcription Seal: Izanagi before the fight. Since when do I need to prove something I never claimed? I explicitly stated no one knows when or where he performed this technique. You have to prove he performed it during the fight. I don't need to do anything since I never claimed anything. The one who makes the claim has to prove their claims. I only pointed out a flaw in your logic. You have no idea when or where Madara activated this technique. Therefore, your argument fails.

That's wrong, I knew how Izanagi worked. The reason I asked how did Izanagi go off, is to point out something. You said Madara didn't use Izanagi, because he was worn out. He did use izanagi through the transcription seal. No that's wrong. You stated Madara could use Izanagi at anytime during the end of the fight. I said he couldn't because he was worn out. You said how did it go off then? I said through the time delay of the Mangekyo (which is transcription seal), he did. Don't twist my words. Therefore, he couldn't activate it at anytime cause he utilized the seal which requires specific circumstances to occur before it activates, and if you knew what Transcription Seal was you wouldn't have made that argument. There's no evidence that he can change a seal he already prepared. You don't even know what those conditions were. Since we don't have a time and place he prepped the seal, you can't say he did it during the fight without proof. You also cannot say he knew he'd have an opportune moment at the end of the fight to kill Hashirama since he could of prepared it before the fight. Not without a single shred of evidence.

There's nothing idiotic about reviving right after his death, at the end of the fight vs Hashirama. What environmental reasons or wide scale continuous attacks was Hashi going to hit Madara with, at the end of his fight with Madara? I said nothing about Izanagi killing Sage Mode Hashi, but even if he could sense attacks, what does that matter to an insta-blitz? You really don't get common sense? If you could prep a seal to activate after you die, but have no idea how you would die, what idiot would program it to activate asap after the moment your heart stops beating? For all you know, you could die in a volcano. Since there's no time frame when Madara set this seal, he could of done it years prior to even thinking of fighting Hashirama. And Hashirama has a great variety of Wood Techniques, lmao. Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees is a pretty wide scale continuous attack. Also, you have to prove Madara would insta-blitz a guy who can sense his chakra and his attacks, I don't need to prove that when Danzo failed to blitz Sasuke with it from behind, while he was caught off guard. Hashirama will be able to sense Madara as soon as he appeared. There won't be catching him off guard in the way you suggested. Prove that Madara would have used Izanagi to kill Hashi just, because he could. That fight was first and foremost about getting Hashi's power, not about killing Hashi at all cost. Don't need to cause you haven't proven that was what the fight was about. Where's your source that was what the fight was about? I don't have to prove that Madara's only wanted to get Hashi's DNA as that wasn't what I said. I said it's his primary goal. Your the one that has to prove that he would have killed Hashi with Izanagi if he could. Since you claim that Madara said he wanted kill Hashi, what chapter did Madara say his goal was to kill Hashirama, during VOTE fight? Bruh. You literally just said Madara only wanted to get his DNA in the paragraph above?????? YOU: "That fight was first and foremost about getting Hashi's power, not about killing Hashi at all cost." ????????? As for what chapters, I got a few actually. In chapter 621, Madara said he was going all out. In chapter 626, Madara said that Hashirama wasn't going to reach the other side, a reference to 621-622 back when they were kids skipping stones across the lake as a competition, and the one who reached the other side, won. If he told Hashirama he wasn't going to reach the other side, that means he told Hashirama he wasn't going to win. But the clear evidence is in 576 when Madara said he fought a REAL life and death battle against Hashirama just after calling him the Ultimate Shinobi. A REAL life and DEATH battle. Not a fake one which you are implying by saying Madara wasn't trying to win. There's only one fight they've had which resulted in death. VOTE. That's just a few instances I remembered, there's probably even more evidence. So Madara basically has said, Hashirama wasn't going to win, that he was going all out, and that this battle was a battle to the death. So... I don't agree with your common sense, but whatever. Let's assume your right, it still doesn't matter as Hashi doesn't have a counter for limbo or Chibaku Tensei. So Madara was stronger. Madara has access to Chibaku as an edo, due to the fact Nagato had access to Chibaku as an edo. Didn't help him against Hashirama. So irrelevant. As for Limbo, Hashirama might not be able to sense it, but it is said on it's page that Sage mode can sense attacks even without the need to see them. So it can be debated if Hashirama can sense their attacks or not.