Talk:Akatsuki

Naruto Gaiden
Regarding the dude wearing the Akatsuki cloak in Gaiden. Should we add that to this page as a sort of underground sect/revival scheme, or should we wait for more information to become available? --Jizo 悟 (talk) 18:36, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Let's wait since people are in wishes not to speculate about their affiliations.--Omojuze (talk) 18:38, May 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm going to use the talk to avoid getting into an edit war with SuperSaiyanMan. Just because Shin's father wears the cloak, we automatically assume he's part of the Akatsuki. That's a rather double-standard, considering how Konan still wears her cloak after she defected. I honestly don't think we should be jumping the gun here. Again, just because Shin's father wears the cloak, he's part of the organization? He could, for all intents and purposes, just be wearing the cloak for the heck of it. Who's to say that the renewed organization consist of more members than just Shin and his father? We hardly know anything about them.-- Ninja Sheik  21:57, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bringing up Konan is a poor example, because we cover the entire series at once. Even though she defected, she was still an Akatsuki, so it's never getting removed. Having said that, I agree with your premise NinjaSheik. Wearing the Akatsuki garb isn't necessarily indicative of anything. In fact, since this place is soooo anal to a fault about leaving speculation out, listing him as Akatsuki is jumpping the gun to an extreme, given how large a role the organization played throughout the series.--Minamoto15 (Talk) 23:23, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I see no issue listing him as Akatsuki. Just because that's the group's name, it doesn't mean that the agenda is the same. Compare Akatsuki as we saw it during most of the series, with Akatsuki we saw in the flashbacks of the Ame Orphans. Both were Akatsuki, but their goals were completely different. This is no different from Obito using Madara's name to inspire fear, except this time it's a person using an affiliation instead of another identity. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:50, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

The major thing I'm hesitant about is we literally have no idea if they are Akatsuki. For all we know they could be part of some new organization and he only wears a Akatsuki cloak because it was the first thing he found next to him. Also noting, his son does not wear the red clouds.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:12, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also true. I'd say we wait. It's not gonna kill anybody to do so.
 * 00:16, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Konan wears the cloak because of it means to her personally, the group she started with Yahiko and Nagato. Officially speaking, though, she's no longer a member of either group. I just see her as an example in a different way. But whatever. Also, the same can go for people who are "soooo anal" about listing characters' deaths when it's not actually confirmed until several chapters later, right? Policy is there for a reason, and from what I saw, people have been wrong before about Obito dying about a dozen times until it actually happened. Back on topic, TheUltimate3 is right. Who says to that they ARE Akatsuki? Shin doesn't even wear the cloak. So, if he doesn't wear it, is he NOT a member, too, or is merely working as a good soldier for his father? Who can say for sure, because WE HARDLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. So, final decision: Is it all right to move the paragraph? I don't want want to start an edit war.-- Ninja Sheik  03:02, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Speaking of Konan, the ame orphans wore Amegakure headbands because they could relate to Hanzo wanting to bring about peace, despite them not being shinobi of his village. So the same could be said about this hooded figure wearing an akatsuki insignia because he shares the same ideology as the akatsuki did. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:29, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * That is a good point! If no one has a counterargument, then the info should be removed. WindStar is right. Let's just wait. It's not gonna kill anybody.-- Ninja Sheik  03:39, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. That was my point.--Minamoto15 (Talk) 03:57, May 16, 2015 (UTC)


 * Now that Shins Father has clearly stated his intentions of reviving the Akatsuki (1), should we add Shin Uchiha & Sharingan Spying Creature as an Akatsuki team, add Akatsuki agenda under Shins Father, & add a third Akatsuki group being the Akatsuki under Shins Father? --DC52 (talk) 04:17, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

New Image
I'm sure there some people will have an issue with the lightning, but here's a much better image to consider- .--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 21:17, June 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I can see why you'd think this one's better, given that everyone's face is visible in this one. But yes, the lighting isn't very good.--Mina [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] talk 00:20, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Still leagues above the current one. Like you said, everyone's face is visible. Besides, it just looks much cleaner as opposed to the current one.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:33, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I would usually say go with the anime image buts its missing Orochimaru. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 00:39, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Obitos Akatsuki Group
The wiki lists Obito as a leader of the Akatsuki, & lists his goal/agenda as leader. Yet Obito's Akatsuki does not have an "Obito's Group" section, while Shin's Akatsuki does have a "Shin's Group" section. So should an "Obito's Group" section be added, consisting of Obito, Kisame, Black Zetsu, White Zetsu, and Taka as an affiliate? --DC52 (talk) 01:07, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Captured Jinchūriki
Did someone say that Sealing Technique: Phantom Dragons Nine Consuming Seals would take longer to complete with Orochimaru's absence? If so, wouldn't that mean that the Akatsuki has had a Tailed Beast sealed within the statue for at least 10 years before part 2. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 19:10, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. Nagato should've researched how the technique actually works before using/learning it, no?--Omojuze (talk) 19:21, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Saru has a point, actually. There was a member who commented that without Orochimaru it would've taken more than 3 days to extract Shukaku and seal it in the Statue, meaning that Orochimaru helped with at least one tailed beast's sealing (unless it was one of Kakuzu's partners that got killed by his bloodlust). But that thing about Orochimaru attacking Itachi 10 years before part 2 is idiotic at best since Itachi massacred his clan at age 13 and joined Akatsuki after that, as hinted by Kisame's flashback before his death.--JOA2020:30, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the member was either Deidara or Sasori. The timeline is iffy, yes, but not impossible. Also, commenting it would take longer without Orochimaru doesn't necessarily mean they have done the jutsu with him before. It could just as easily mean that the optimal performance of the jutsu requires 10 users, one for each of the statue's fingers. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems odd that if Kisame (you can see his sword) was talking about the technique lacking a 10th member performing the technique, he would only mention Orochimaru instead of saying a 10th member or even the other Akatsuki members (Kakuzu's partners).--Sarada Uzumaki (talk) 21:34, September 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^I agree. The only reason to name drop Orochimaru, is if he was present during a sealing, since if Kisame was talking about optimal performance with a 10th member, he would of said "shouldn't we consider that it might take a bit longer since we don't have Orochimaru, Kakuzu partner #1, 2, 3 or 4?". Trivia note? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:10, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. His mention of Orochimaru could be just an indication that he's the most recent ex-member of Akatsuki. It could also be because it would be Orochimaru's spot that's missing, since Orochimaru took his ring with him. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:35, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Konan's Ring
Shouldn't 白 be read as "Haku" or "Byaku"? Or is it officially read as "Bya" somewhere?--JouXIII (talk) 20:02, October 4, 2015 (UTC)