Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-26636534-20200420152722

@Babyfriend1

Thanks for asking the important question: "What is canon?" The canon policy actually defines it. Ironically, it was even stated why the canon policy was even brought into effect: Mainly to resolve disputes. Furthermore, the policy in question also recognizes that nothing is absolute and contradictions that do arise should be handled case by case. But read it for yourself and decided. The canon policy is quite robust all in all.

@Legion

I find it strange that you criticize me for using the canon policy and related definitions for canon, explaining my point of view with examples. While your latest post shows you defining canon and telling another user examples of contradictions between the various mediums, showing your point of view lol.

So, since this has turned into a game-show, allow me to show the scorecard. ________________________________________________________________________

Legion: ''"Not usre what you mean by "lowest form of canon". Ever since the New Era Project started the anime/manga have been pulling directly from them. No reason to discount what it said about Tsukuyomi's dilation" ''

Ninja: ''"Check the wiki's canon policy, canon is tiered" ''
 * The canon policy includes the change between the original series and the new era project and the mention of Boruto running alongside the Boruto manga, as of January 1st 2017. So no disagreement, although you misunderstood my point about Tsukuyomi usage. (L:0 | N:0)

Legion: ''"Wiki doesnt get to decide what is and isnt canon."..."IIRC an official timeline was put out and explicitly includes the novels". ''

Ninja: "The wiki doesn't decide that, it tiers canon based on association relative to the author."

' Legion: "Who decided this was the case for Naruto/Boruto? The wiki cant do that. The fans cant do that. The series is in the hands of a different writer now and most if not all of these things are overseen by Kishimoto....Kodachi(Boruto writer) wrote the Gaara Hiden novel and supervises the anime.''
 * Pretty self explanatory, I paraphrased the canon policy. '''(L:0 | N:0)

Ninja: ''"Clearly there is a separation between Naruto series and Boruto: Next generations. Being that Kishimoto was in charge of Naruto and later, as you said, Kodachi is in charge of Boruto." ''
 * Once again, the canon policy addresses all this and no it doesn't "decide" what is canon, it only tiers it. Which I tried to explain in a different manner, so I see still a misunderstanding at this point. (L:0 | N:0)

Legion: "@ninja: You are literally ignoring canon. Because you dont like what it says."

Ninja: "How so? I said I agree with the canon policy. And didn't you say you didn't?"


 * Not true, I acknowledged the novel feat that @greenmatsui mentioned and then went back to the tiers of the wiki policy. I later expanded more on this^^. The rest of your post was ad hominem, nothing substantive and incorrectly assuming my motive. (L:-1 | N: 0).

Legion: "No reason to ignore the novel's statement about the upper limits because simply because it wasnt shown in the anime/manga"

Ninja: "I didn't ignore it, I explained my reasoning from Tsukuyomi usage and also why I agree with the wiki canon policy. So to me and the wiki, the manga and anime take precedence."


 * Self-explanatory, you say I ignored something, despite no evidence. I cite my agreement with the wiki policy and personal opinion. (L:-1 | N:0)

Things get repetitive from this point on, so only the non-repetitive stuff.

Legion: "You are using your personal preference and wiki policy to justify telling another fan to disregard canon. Sad part is, even by your own metric, the novel statement shouldnt be ignored because nothing contradicts it."

Ninja: "That was my point as well, as the novel statement from Akatsuki:Hiden is not in conflict, but the Tsukuyomi usage on Izumi is in conflict with the anime."


 * I should have pointed out that the OP can decide for themselves and do their own research. And at no point did I try to "enforce authority", as the record shows I stated my opinion. So you claiming I was, is false, and my clarification shows I wasn't ignoring the novel statement. (L:-2: N:1)

Legion: "Dont know, dont care. I dont know enough about the novels to start adding stuff to articles left and right and its not my job to do so...You didnt get one im presumably because all of us thought the answer was self evident and because it was a pointless question"

Ninja: "Well, so much for your concern of the "novels being canon". Guess that stance fell just as quickly as your decorum."


 * Didn't expect or ask you to change any article. So your reply to a question I didn't ask was also pointless. I was a little surprised at your grandstanding though. (L:-2 | N:1)

Now we get into the stuff I didn't reply to yet. ________________________________________________________________________

Legion: "I didnt dodge anything. You have a belief about canonicity and the wiki agrees with you so you tell others what metrics to judge information by"

previous Ninja post: ''"And what of that post? Are you gonna discuss something about it?", "Otherwise, where does one draw the line? Do we include all the game-only additions to the canon series? All the movies?"  ' Legion: ''"The novel is the source material. Hasnt the source material always been considered the canon?" ''
 * You dodged my questions and my points on why I have my own view. Even my own posts where I clearly state my opinion. Then turn around and say I'm trying to "enforce my metrics". '''(L:-2 | N:3)
 * That depends on the author (Kishimoto's approval) and whether that somehow means that the anime (which Kishimoto approved) is wrong. (L:-2 | N:3)

Legion: "Because i dont add information to the wiki my stance on what is canon is invalid?? Horrible fallacy"


 * Already addressed your confusion and grandstanding earlier, but using a strawman is a big no-no. (L:-3 | N:3)

Legion: "I wonder if you understand your hypocrisy"


 * Apart from your opinion, this is another unsupported statement from you about me. If you are referring to my use of the wiki policy, that has been pretty consistent as I have applied it to all instances. If you disagree quote me. But gonna have to mark you down for your attempt. (L:-4 : N:3)

Final total: Ninja of War +3, LegionZero -4 Sorry for the wallpost @EveryoneElse.