Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-1512913-20170121174919/@comment-26403664-20170209010024

Elveonora wrote: Don't you think Sage Transformation in that context referred only to the jinchuuriki form, as in Sage (of Six Paths) Transformation? In the case that I have presented yes. Take example in how Obito literally struggled to control the ten tails when he was its jin, it's like Juugo's rampages. And then later he managed to take control and his body changed completely. And the same with Madara despite him getting more of a chakra shroudesque body and Mitsuki has a chakra shroud when he has SM so it's out of the realm of possibility to gain a chakra shroud when having it. I managed to sum up my ideas like this Sage Transformation= A technique from a kekei kenkai that allows someone to passively absorb nature energy and transforms ones body into animal like bodies and can give chakra shrouds. Uses senjutsu chakra because the nature energy mixes with the chakra but it is not as powerful since this baseline is not perfectly mixed. Causes mental instability when not perfectly mixed. Sage Mode= A technique one can learn to mix nature energy with one's chakra to create senjutsu, however you must stay still and consciously sense and absorb nature energy. The difference between the transformation and this is that you have to gather it and usually cannot be like Kabuto or have someone else gather the nature energy Imperfect Sage Mode= Like Sage Transformation but the difference is that it is from someone without the kekei kenkai and you have to consciously absorb it, it doesn't cause rampages but it does risk death, turning into a frog or a snake and then into stone, depending on what variant you learned it from (reasons unknown) Sage Mode mixed with Sage Transformation= Sage Transformation's body transformation due to the body fluids present but you don't have mental instability due to perfectly mixing your chakra with sage mode. But you no longer need the aspect of gathering nature energy by sitting still, your body can have a constant access to it by passively absorbing it. Six Paths Senjutsu= Simply six paths chakra mixed with natural energy, that is it Six Paths Sage Transformation= When one becomes a jin of the Ten Tails and has a complete near infinite source of Nature Energy (juubi must have a limit at SOME point), and their body changes akin to normal sage transformation. This is different as it does not involve the kekei kenkai and the difference between jin forms/these forms with Obito and Madara are unrelated to the name except that if you cannot control it then your body will have a different transformation than it does when you can, ie. Obito. Six Paths Sage Mode= Sage Mode, so you have to learn to absorb nature energy with Sage Mode and then mix it with Six Paths chakra. So essentially six paths chakra + six paths sage mode. That is it, it creates six paths senjutsu and its chakra. It is body enhancing allowing flight, access to 9 truth seeking balls that cannot be replaced once lost and immunity to truth seeking balls. Added effects if you gain six paths yin or yang power, but that is a different topic. With Naruto, when he was in base form kicking the truth seeker orb that was SIX PATHS SAGE MODE. When he added the chakra cloak, that was due to mixing Kurama mode with Six Paths Sage Mode. Naruto gained SPSM by having Hagaromo's Six Paths chakra (all 9 tailed beast's chakra) + nature energy. So the god mode cloak Naruto has is SPSM mixed with Kurama mode nothing else. It's finite because you don't have an infinite source of nature energy to call upon like the ten tails being inside of you.