Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180303045720

naruto doesnt have a clone limit in SM. the limit is when he has 3-4 clones gathering Senjutsu at the same time. it is when limit is imposed. making more than 3 clones (during Pein arc) would disrupt the clones Senjutsu gathering ability. without having a clone gather Senjutsu he has no limits on clones. during his fight against Kyubi he had hundreds of clones on his side.

Gai has a good time limit on 5th gate, but 6Gate the limit is lower. once 7Gate Gai enters the picture the limit is less than a minute. he always goes for instakill because he cannot maintain that form. once Hirudora is used he is down for the count.

for durablitiy... surviving Shinra Tensei, and that too in base form, is a feat of durability