Talk:Summoning: Demonic Statue of the Outer Path

Translation
I've been looking into the etymology for, and it's pretty interesting. It's strictly a Buddhist term, naturally. It's from the Chinese translation of the Sanskrit Tīrthika, which means "treading the outer path," specifically referring to someone who is walking a spiritual path towards enlightenment, but opposes Buddhist teachings (the "inner path"), and is basically going about it the wrong way.

A proper English translation of Tīrthika apparantly doesn't exist, and "heretic" carries a prejorative connotation that isn't really intended by the term, though it still seems to be the most common translation of both Gedō and Tīrthika, and I can't really come up with anything better, apart from Tīrthika itself.

Also interesting, is the same as the Chinese term for golem, though it's not used in Japanese to my knowledge. Regardless, I think "Demonic Statue" or "Demon Statue" conveys the meaning just fine.

I think I'll add a simple "influences" section to this and the "Shinra Bansho" techniques to explain the Buddhist referances in their names, like with the Six Paths of Pain. FF-Suzaku (talk) 00:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

This is what i find out about peins summoning statue Heretical Doctri, (Kuchiyose: Gedō Mazō). Gedo is related to buddhist pracitce gedo zen which means "Outside Way".In gedo zen, one's practice consist of prayer and attention to some entity or state of being which is related to one. Such practices might also involve the cultivation of various powers, in order to gain some control over the physics of day to day experience so that one can imagine oneself to be more "godlike." HUNTER* (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Kekkei genkai
Why is this jutsu regarded as Kekkei genkai?Wreiad (talk) 15:52, November 14, 2009 (UTC) Rinnegan= master of life and death...
 * i'm pretty sure that's a technique that can't be copied or used outside of the Rinnegan. pretty much everything nagato did should be considered a kekkei genkai.... --Cerez365 (talk) 13:02, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Frankly speaking, that's more of an assumption, as there's no literal evidence, such a databook, claiming Nagato's jutsu were Rinnegan based or kekkei genkai [And I don't know why Narutowiki would take a misleading route]. About 8 of his old jutsu were not described in the 3rd databook in that manner, and I don't see what Gedo Mazo has to do with the Rinnegan when other people have access to it.Wreiad (talk) 16:16, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke
Was it explicitly said that Madara wants to sync Sasuke with the statue? If I remember correctly he just said he had to find someone else to replace Pain. I don't think he ever said Sasuke would be the one - actually it seems he has other plans for Sasuke. If I'm wrong, and Madara did say that, can someone direct me to the Manga chapter confirms this? Kjammer (talk) 05:22, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't remember him saying sasuke was going to be the one to sync with it either... from looking at the page history i see this was started by Cooltamerboy... - S im A nt 05:27, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Madara said something about to sync Sasuke with Gedo mazo in chapter 453, page 17. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 10:51, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * He just wants people in general to sync with it. And since you need a considerable amount of chakra, Sasuke would be a perfect candidate... --Cerez365 (talk) 13:09, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Tayuya
isnt that the exayt same jutsu as tayuyas, i mean i admit its a thousand times stronger and bigger but still they both summon blindfolded demons which eat their opponents souls using ghost-snakes coming out of their mouth81.10.220.248 (talk) 21:14, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. It's not the same at all. The purposes are totally different. Yes, they are summoning techniques, but Tayuya uses them for fighting, and Outer path is used for sealing tailed beasts. --Ttogafer (talk) 21:24, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Didn't Tayuya's ghost snakes eat chakra? --ShounenSuki (talk 00:41, July 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not quite. They were made of unbalanced chakra, they had more "mind" than "stamina", so they when they attacked they devoured the "stamina" from opponents. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:18, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

well at least when pain used it against hanzous men it was used for fighting and i figured if tayuya had more chakra or the rinnegan or something than it would have been the same jutsu but thats just speculation81.10.220.248 (talk) 20:06, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Why are two pages about a technique?
Why are two pages about a technique? http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Gedo_Mazo and http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Summoning:_Demonic_Statue_of_the_Outer_Path

Where is says that Gedo Mazo is Kekkei Genkai or technique of Rinnegan?
 * One is about the technique that Nagato uses with it and the other is about the statue as a storehouse for the Hosts --Cerez365 (talk) 13:42, November 6, 2010 (UTC)