Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36632842-20180818184904/@comment-34194151-20180923001854

@Blazerelease

No, it is I that accepts your concession. The sharingan does not see through all decoys. -kakashi failed to see through zabuza's water clone -obito and sasuke failed to see through killer bee's clone -itachi failed to see through kakashi's water clone. -sasuke will fail to see through kiba's akamaru clone.

Lol so we are giving the sharingan x-ray vision now? sasuke cannot see through gaara's sand shell.

Sakon reacted to sasuke, how is this a debate? Kiba can react to sasuke if a weaker version of sakon can. kiba was able to trade blows and pressure sakon with his speed, forcing sakon to use rashomon gates to block his attack. Kiba and akamaru also weren't horribly outsped.

Itachi spent the greater part of his childhood training with Shisui of the body-flicker, who was argubably the third fastest shinobi during the third shinobo world war, right behind minato and Ayy. Even killer bee knew shisui by his body flicker moniker. So it's obvious that itachi can track and react to extreme speeds, even if he isn't as fast as them, he still has a sharingan and still can react to them with taijutsu/etc .Itachi isn't as fast as ayy but I have no doubt that he can track ayy's speed though he would have trouble landing attacks, but he can easily outsmart Ayy imo.

See, I caught you there. I never once stated that sasuke is stupid. I stated he simply wasn't as smart as you are claiming. There is no reason why he doesn't know about legendary uchiha techniques when he was hanging out with the people who know all about it lol, when he was going into battle against an uchiha who he knew was a genius. And your shikamaru example doesn't hold up. Shikamaru didn't make any mistakes because he brought back-up. It's your subjective opinion that he miscalculated, because he didn't. Naruto basically soloed a weakened kakazu. kakashi and friends took out 3 of his hearts. Most of the battle was done off-panel too, so we didn't get to see what ino and choji were capable of. Sasuke on the other hand put all his chakra into one big attack and had no backup if it failed. shikamaru definitely had an emotional investment yet it didn't stop him from getting the job done. kakashi was the one who signed off on his strategy as well. Like i said, not extracting intel from kakazu and hidan was plot, there is no reason no one thought of that, when they did it to kisame. and even if it is a mistake, that does not suddenly excuse sasuke from his own mistakes lol.

You basically also conceded the point that itachi reacted to lightning. Susano'o forms in an instant, and yet sasuke didn't see it because the lightning bolt was in the way. that proves that itachi reacted once the bolt was already nearly hitting him. Itachi had he reaction time to form susano'o while he was less than 1/1000th of a second away from getting tagged. he would have been dead without susano'o but thats why susano'p is his trump card ultimate defense lol. Itachi didn't play his susano'o hand until he needed to. that is the difference between itachi and sasuke. Itachi kept a trump card up his sleeve in the event sasuke got the jump on him, while sasuke overextended on his trump card. The whole point of bringing up these tangential points with sasuke is to show you that sasuke's supposed huge intelligence advantage over kiba is non-existent. he may be smarter but it doesn't matter since he will underestimate kiba, rendering his intelligence moot. We saw what happened when kakashi underestimated zabuza, zabuza destroyed him and put him in a water prison.