Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28731007-20160627161220/@comment-28885945-20160630204741

I like your scenario I do not personally think the MS genjutsu is able to control a tailed beast inside a host like it was able to when kurama is free like the tailed beast can wake its partner, Naruto could wake up Kurama. I do think 8 gates guy is too powerful for jiraiya but I recall jiraiya had the toad mouth genjutsu that "none have escaped" I think with summons naruto and Jiraiya can take this because lets be honest, Kakashi is not a match for three toad summons his small chakra reserves and inability to use large scale juts such as a bijou bomb or night guy or Jiraiya with his massive toad oil fire cover a battlefield, Kakashi imo holds guy back besides planning but int he face of overwhelming power tactics only get you so far.