Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-24824859-20160403222052

8Gates wrote: "The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well. In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails. In the last war, Obito had become a human pillar for the Ten Tails and gained chakra rivalling that of the Sage of the Six Paths. '''Naruto, who’d taken the bijuu into him as well, had some of the Sage’s power even now." ''' You are blatantly ignoring the fact that it was been stated/shown in the manga and databook that it was Hagoromo who granted Naruto his SPSM. The Bijuu had nothing to do with it, except enhancing it. Heck, Naruto used SPSM in Gaiden and the Boruto movie and there was no mention of the other Bijuu and he was drawing chakra only from Kurama. Bijuu chakra doesn't make up SPS, otherwise Naruto didn't use it in Gaiden and the Boruto movie 8Gates wrote: Asura possessing Six Paths Sage Mode means that he indeed possessed the chakra of the Biju. There isn't any way he could have it otherwise. He doesn't need to be their Jinchuriki, he just needs to possess a portion of their chakras which allows him to become the meeting point. So you are just continuing making claims without any evidence? The manga showed otherwise 8Gates wrote: Hagoromo specifically only upgraded Sasuke's left eye into a Rinnegan. In other words, no other part of him was even touched by Hagoromo's power which is made obvious by the Sharingan in his right eye. Can you read? I said without Hag chakra, Sasuke wouldn't be able to awaken the Rinnegan. How Hagoromo granted him chakra is irrelevant 8Gates wrote: The Rinnegan produces it's own chakra. It doesn't need some imaginary chakra handout to sustain it's existence. It produces it's own chakra. How many times do I need to say it? The Rinnegan produces it's own chakra just like every dojutsu in the series does. They are self-sustaining. Shisui's eye doesn't need Shisui feeding it with his chakra in order for it to retain it's own existence. Read above 8Gates wrote: They weren't using half of his chakra to fight each other. You're just ignoring my points. They used half of his chakra to seal away Kaguya via Six Paths CT. Annnd you're ignoring facts. Hagoromo granted them chakra, which gave them powers and it was those powers that they used to fight one another 8Gates wrote: naru: is this because\\ naru: I met the grandpa sage and received his power?\\ sfx: su\\ naru: even from here I can feel it\\ naru: the other fragment of grandpa’s power\\

zetsu: this space is connected to the other 5, the fact that he is here it is really bad…\\ zetsu: we cannot let him reach sasuke by resonating with the power of yin and yang…\\

Statements>>>your fanfiction. Your incorrect speculation doesn't invalidate the above statements. It simply means that the premise of your conclusion is wrong. Yet, Sasuke was able to feel Naruto's chakra that was in another dimension, despite the fact that he isn't a sensor. Ignoring established facts isn't helping your argument 8Gates wrote: There some sort of language barrier here? You're rejecting obvious statements because you possess some sort of preconceived notion which within itself, possesses no basis. The pot called the kettle black 8Gates wrote: What the hell? Hagoromo's power was blatantly stated to be the seals that he gave them. The correct course of action to take is to form a viewpoint that fits around that fact, not make up whatever nonsense that you want to believe in like you're doing right now. There isn't a single panel of Naruto using Hagoromo's senjutsu without drawing on Biju chakra. Are you intentionally being daft? In this supposed "Six Paths Sage Mode without Biju chakra state" Naruto was still shown using the Biju's chakra, more specifically Son Goku's. The eyes alone shoots down the argument on Naruto not using Biju chakra. Six Paths Senjutsu is the power of all the Biju. The reason that a Ten Tails' Jinchuriki can use this power is because that is the power of the amalgamation of the Biju. They aren't separate powers. Power of all the Biju=Six Paths Senjutsu The seals were not the power that Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke, it was SPSM and the Rinnegan, it was been stated many times in the manga and was well stated in the databook. Wow, such a hypocrite Are you blind? Did you not see Naruto in his initial SPSM when he first overwhelmed Madara and resuscitated Gai? No "all Bijju chakra". The eyes are made of Kurama's and those of Toad Sage Mode users. It proves that it doesn't require the chakra all all of the Bijuus This is Naruto just using SPSM, without any Bijuu chakra. This is the result of Naruto using SPSM in conjunction with the chakra of the nine Bijuus. And lastly, these are examples of Naruto using SPSM in conjuction with only Kurama's chakra Becoming a TTJ automatically grants a person SPS, but doesn't mean that SPS is made of Bijuu chakra. Insulting my intelligence and becoming a hypocrite is sooo not helping your case Ravenlot 27 wrote: I think the both sides of the argument are accusing each other in specuating the facts while both of them are doing exactly this all the time. I never accused anyone of speculating as that is clearly what I'm doing