Talk:Hinata Hyūga/Archive 3

Road to Ninja
Shouldn't we put up her character sketches for Naruto 6: Road to Ninja?? And mention her change in personality in the Alternative Universe?? TomNamikaze (talk) 13:31, June 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Same thing as Sasuke. It will be mentioned under the Movies section.--TheUltimate3 Sarutobi Symbol.svg (talk) 13:32, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Bust - Waist - Hip ratio? Part 2
Well given the latest one shot, we can assume her bust her the largest among her firends.--Shock Dragoon (talk) 11:10, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Inconsequential information which no one will miss if it's not mentioned.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:11, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with shockdragoon, Kishi made that one shot manga ans he talked about Hinatas bust. I dont think you should delete that.
 * It's been proven that Hinata is not fat as most readers or haters thought. Hinata was to modest to show her body.

Appearance
Okay, I wonder why someone constantly deletes Hinata "sporting a curvacious frame and sizable bust" trait in her appearance.

Look, if the latest one shot for the movie didn't confirm it nothing will. Kishi even mentioned her figure in an interview. There's nothing perverse, or whatever other reason about stating the fact that Hinata is a well-endowed teenager. Hell, half the anime girls in anime history have ridiculous figures and they describe them. I don't know why someone feels Hinata's appearance should be not be stated. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 11:19, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's being removed because as I said it's not necessary. The people that come here aren't blind so we don't need to point it out. It's also getting ridiculously perverse and as such it was removed altogether. Nobody goes to Sakura's article for example and says she's a "petite-brested girl with a slender frame" thus there's no need to mention the big-busted ones.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:28, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * well geez if that the case you might as well remove the info from Tsunade, Samui, Shizuka, and so on and so forth because it's "unnecessary information". Wikis are made for people that have no idea of the series. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass with you but many people notice that I'll leave unnamed that you seem to have a thing against this character. No offense really, as a former admin of many wiki (college gets in the way) I think it does show bias --Shock Dragoon (talk) 11:33, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would however, as far as I know both Tsunade and Samui's breasts have been the subject of conversation, in universe. I've never heard anyone say anything about Hinata's bust. How can I have a thing against this character, have you seen my signature or user page? I'm a Hyūga-fanatic… And like I said before, unlike Tsunade and Samui's it was becoming perverted (you can check the other revisions) so that's why it's being removed altogether.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:56, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see where your coming from, really I do, but with the latest one-shot and movie (not to mention the latest interview with Kishi where he satted Hinata's bust size was actually a defining reason for her creation. yeah it's weird) we were bound to get some vandalism. All in all, if you don't come up with the best way to word her figure, someone less "graceful" will word it horrible.
 * I say we keep the original "sporting a curvacious frame and sizable bust" so it leaves no harm no foul and no one puts anyhting dumb in. it's better than something completely stupid being written there. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:14, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Where exactly is this interview with Kishimoto, because I've never seen it. Even so, that could be mentioned in her creation and conception or else trivia. There's no need to be going out of our way to mention that she has a curvaceous frame and sizeable bust when when the same isn't being granted to Tenten or Sakura (such info was also removed from Ino's article).--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * here's a rough trans, Takl is working on it for us. Still I think it's wrong to remove those from Hinata and Ino, the only thing stopping hat you said on Tenten and Sakura's page is no one WANTS to put it there. Wikis are made for those who never saw the serieses, that's why Fairy Tail wiki I built was so successful (and well Mashima just makes girls like that). If what your saying is the case, I'LL put those things there, I just don't like wikis being edited like this.

http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=43926728&postcount=250 --Shock Dragoon (talk) 13:46, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. If I remember correctly TakL has some credibility. However, that still doesn't mean I'm for readding that information to her article. A trivia note would be a better fit in my opinion, you can always wait for others to chip in.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:56, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see what's so wrong about stating that she is well-developed, it's a noticeable part of her appearance, so should be mentioned --Elveonora (talk) 17:01, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I also see no issue with it being added. It's about the character so it belongs on the page. --Speysider Talk Page 17:05, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have noticed that Cerez has something against breasts, there's nothing perverted about that...--Elveonora (talk) 17:25, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unless it's been mentioned a million of times, like the old hag's, yes there is. User talk: X29, 20:25 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * I don't care one way or another, but I will mention that "curvacious frame and sizable bust" sounds a bit wordy...I'm sure it can be reworded but eh. It can stay as long as it doesn't invite creepy fans.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 17:35, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * By creepy, I assume you mean............ Pervy-Sage like. User talk: X29, 20:45 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * "Well developed for her age" perhaps?--Elveonora (talk) 17:50, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * In my point of view, I think that's pretty normal development for her age. User talk: X29, 20:51 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * "Hinata has a bigger chest than most of her peers" not even some mature women have such big breasts, Sakura is underdeveloped then "_" bot her body and as a character--Elveonora (talk) 18:04, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't really think you're right on that. I think some mature women are very well developed............ there. User talk: X29, 21:15 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * But quiet, cause Cerez will hear ya--Elveonora (talk) 20:09, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, he's not the only anti-pervertism around here. User talk: X29, 23:08 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * Yes, I'm serverely traumatised by breasts : /... Any way my issue with it is simple. People have gone out of their way to mention Hinata's bust size and her slender, yet curvaceous frame yes? The same was done to Ino. Why does no one mention that Tenten have an average size bust, and a slender yet curvaceous frame or that Sakura has a small bust and a slender frame? Sure it's part of the persons appearance but people have obviously goine out of their way to detail and perverse it. Sure breast size is fine but going all the way down to describe her slender yet curvaceous frame? Why not just say she has child bearing hips as well? That kind of information is unnecessary when we can simply say she's "developed into a young woman" right across the board.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 20:14, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * What I want is that people remove such details. It's perverted to me. User talk: X29, 23:14 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * Same. Going into details about those stuff is more trouble than it's worth. We should all know what happens to people during puberty, we don't have to give every nitty gritty detail. As for the bit about Hinata and the alternate-universe Hinata, trivia or creation and conception would be a fine place to mention it in my opinion.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 20:27, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm... why not to add the image of her "outfit" from Road to Sakura episode so people can make their own from it?
 * Seriously... I don't see it any perverted to mention what's true and natural.
 * Are we fucking serious? This manga/anime is about bouncing big breasts and a guy changing into a girl with a technique, there are even lesbian/gay techniques and scenes and lines. If Kishi doesn't make one big hell of an issue from that, then so shouldn't we. This isn't about puberty, Hinata is like third to Tsunade when it comes to biggest breasts, if there weren't scenes and dialogue about that, then okay... but since Kishi want to "sell" Hinata by her "appearance" then people that are reading this wiki should be informed how she looks other than face--Elveonora (talk) 20:30, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please, do not mention anything "Naruto 6: Road to Ninja"-related in my presence. Why? 'Cause it already got spoiled for me by accidently going into the page of that guy Menma. User talk: X29, 23:26 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * Yes, I'm 100% "fucking" serious. This manga is not about bouncing big breasts (the amount of women in the series that have huge breasts is negligeble). I'd say Fairy Tail manga has more to do with breasts than this. Naruto transforms into a woman, and there are a few homosexual undertones in the series, what does that have to do with anything? It is fine with me to mention people's breasts, at least it was only done with big-brested women, but because of all the additional details, people have taken to perversing the article, and while it's fine if you're okay with it, I'm not okay with people coming here and reading stuff like that. Mention that she has a big bust, why not, but the mentioning of her "slender, yet curvaceous frame" is utterly unnecessary unless we should mention her life-bearing hips, supple thighs and ample bottom. Because that's all it will lead to.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 20:47, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. We're here to supply facts and information, not perverted details for teen lust. And please lad and lass, language. User talk: X29, 23:48 PM, 30th of July, 2012.
 * @x29, you wren't spoiled anything, there's still a lot of interesting stuff in the movie you (presumably) don't know about, so stay tuned for a year more or two.
 * @boobs, I'm sure it can be worded so it doesn't sound perverted, if you are bothered with people making hentai out of it with weird edits, lock the page. It's not like she is getting much screentime now, so no need to edit her article often.
 * Oh, now I see your point. Well, my 2 cents: not to keep the "slender, yet curvaceous frame" but keep the mention of her bust as that's the most noticeable and often mentioned. For Ino though, I think "slender, yet curvaceous frame" fits perfectly, because she is all whole "died diet diet" yet has nice breasts as well.--Elveonora (talk) 21:13, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was spoiled. He's the son of Kushina and Minato in a different universe. What you guys are saying now is giving me ideas. So, please, stop. AS for Ino, honestly, just 'cause she's going on heavy diets doesn't mean she has to be curvy 'cause of it. And I guess we could keep the sizeable bust for Hinata, if it's mentioned again. By the way, when you mentioned Ino's...... breasts, my first thought was "PERVERT ALERT!" User talk: X29, 00:20 AM, 31st of July, 2012.
 * Christ Almighty, this is getting freakin' ridiculous! Look, is the info about Hinata's appearance untrue, No it is not, it should be noted cause that's how a wiki works. 2) the reason people don't right that stuff in Tenten and Sakura's page is because no editor felt like it (though I am surprised no one said that about Sakura since her flat-chest IS the focal point of a few jokes in the series from time to time) if that's the reason iI'LL figgin' put them there. There is nothing perverse about her appearance unless WORDED so. Her breasts have been the focal point of a few jokes in the series, even her CREATION is a reference to her appearance. This is a wiki for God's Sake! --Shock Dragoon (talk) 15:57, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * And a Wiki is supposed to have correct and clean info and facts with no slight scent of pervertism in them. --X29 16:00, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * How is mentioning that not clean? It's all in how you WORD it. If someone were to write "Hinata posses huge boobs that bounce and bludge" then you have a problem but no one is writing it like that. It's getting to the point where we're going to have to delete EVERY single "appearance" section because "people aren't blind" like Cerez said. I have managed a lot of wikias and this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. The info is NOT untrue, let it stay in an appropriate manner, only a French minority is making a big deal about this. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Let us ALL give a BIG thank you to TheUltimate3 for writing this truthful fact about this character in a proper manner. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 17:16, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * All I did was readd one word and connected it to another sentence. That was all that needed to be done without it getting weird and creepy.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 17:21, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all that was needed, nothing "perverse" about it. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 17:25, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sigh, making an issue from some fat tissue--Elveonora (talk) 18:09, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I only have one idea: Till her............ bust gets mentioned several times more, we'll keep it outta the article. If it gets mentioned a few more times, you're welcome to add. How does that sound? --X29 21:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * While I don't understand why people think the issue has been resolved (her breasts aren't even mentioned), this isn't worth this much effort, to me at least. As such, I'll leave it as is, and at least hope it won't be taken out of context any more.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 21:19, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't need to be mentioned a stupid amount of times in series just to be mentioned. It just doesn't have to be mentioned like it was written by a creepy fanboy. One word, which is all I added, is enough to convey everything. Hell give me 5 minutes and if breasts are required I can figure out how to add it in.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 21:24, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just one last thing: Her figure was never mentioned. Just her........... bust. --X29 21:26, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Incorrect. Originally, the line was "curvacous(lolcantspellusuckTU3lol) figure and sizable bust", based on the date I picked out randomly that dates back at least to March I believe. Looking at it, that was probably fine and thus TheUltimate3 is unclear what this entire discussion is about.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 21:39, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow fail TheUltimate3, you noted that yourself not to long ago. Either my memory is just that bad, or I had a change of heart. Either way, I'm still confused.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 21:44, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Basically, we're arguing on her appearance, and if you're gonna add something in her appearance, I suggest you to add her sizeable........... bust, not her frame. Why you ask? 'Cause only her....... bust has been mentioned so far. --X29 21:47, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * All this discussion, and it's just about her bust. I think that says enough about some here. 24.63.48.105 (talk) 17:58, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * And that's supposed to mean? --X29 18:00, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Discussing something trivial, I really don't see any problems with how it was written before, after all Naruto isn't an ecchi anime. White Flash 18:03, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's 'cause you don't have anti-pervertism genes in you. --X29 18:09, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Her Affiliation
Why Hinata's profile only has Hiashi and her mother listed? Where are her sister and grandfather? I can understand if cousin (Neji) and uncle (Hizashi) aren't listed, but I saw Tsunade page (for example) and all Tsunade's relatives are listed there. --Narsha (talk) 05:45, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Infoboxes are generally funky after latest upgrade. Wikia is changing how the database works. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:14, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Why is the cloak temporary?
Only guessing it is doesn't mean it is. She, like the others that Naruto gave the cloak to, have a chance on it being a permanent power up. Instead of assuming its just temporary, we should keep it in the articles.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 23:18, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Assuming you know what chakra is oui, you do know that it runs out oui? And without a source from which it comes, how can it be permanent? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 23:19, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * After Fridays, people get sober, eventually. Seriously, it's a "buff" more than anything, once they use up all that Kurama chakra, it's gone--Elveonora (talk) 23:39, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe Hinata will use it to take over the clan. That would please me to no end.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:15, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Missed info
I can't believe people like Omnibender and such missed this! Hey whoever is reading this, there are mistakes in Hinata's jutsu box. She does not know how to use 8 trigrams 64 palms, OR revolving heaven. Also, the needles aren't made of water, but chakra. However I don't know how to change it.--Aeonophic (talk) 14:27, January 24, 2013 (UTC)Aeonophic
 * Read the main page for ET64P and ETRotation.. And for Water Needle, this jutsu I believe was named in a game, so we stay with it.--Omojuze (talk) 14:33, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Those are only games and movies, and the movies never really happened in the Naruto Manga or Anime, and they have almost nothing to do with them. Just because Hinata could use that technique in the movie doesn't mean she could in both the manga and anime. A jutsu only puts itself in one of those sections if it is shown in that form(Manga, Anime,Movie,Or Game). In this case its movies and games. Notice the movie only sign on the ET64 page and the game only sign ETRevolving Heaven. The theory you're proposing is contradicting the wiki's own standards, sorry to say. Who created the mistake anyway?--Aeonophic (talk) 14:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * What in God's name are you rambling on about? The information Omojuze provided to you is correct. Those were used in the movie and game respectively, and are tagged as such on the pages. Why it's showing up in her infobox looks like nothing more than a semantic mistake which we can do nothing about.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:24, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's only so much Simant can do from our side to try making SemanticMediaWiki work. Basically, every time he tries to fix a problem, another comes along eventually. Current implementation is, as far as my limited knowledge on it goes, the least faulty implementation which works. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:52, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

kind of repetitive
"Although she was deemed a failure in Part I by her father"  "and him deeming her as a failure"  "he deemed her a lost cause"   "was deemed a failure by their father"  How many times do you need to tell the reader that she was "deemed a failure"? We don't need to hear the same thing four times to understand that she has some problems with her father. Adam10003 (talk) 00:13, February 13, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 * Talk about lack of self-esteem... jk, edit as you please, for the better, that's it.--Elveonora (talk) 00:33, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

What happened to the Jutsu box?
Like Danzo Shimura's article, Hinata's is now lacking her jutsu box. What happened and why does this keep happening?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 18:51, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see any problem in Hinata's infobox. Just to know that you could hide or show the jutsu box and tools box for any article that has an infobox. There is an option to do that. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:25, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no option there. Its just gone, the only thing that's showing is Hinata's family on the info box.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:26, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * The jutsu box and tools box aren't gone away, they are just hidden. You could see them by pressing [Show] which locates in the upper-right corner of the boxes. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:31, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think you're understanding. There isn't a show button showing for me. If there was, I'd press it. But there isn't one.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:33, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait, its showing now...weird.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:34, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, but this option doesn't be included in the movie-only characters. I don't know why. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:39, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Up until very recently, jutsu and tool sections were not appearing in infoboxes for characters whose names contain macroned letters. Simant just performed an edit in one of the infobox templates, so I guess that particular issue was fixed. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:48, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

8 Tri-Grams 32 Palms
Since Hinata paused after using 32 palms, then continued on to using 64 palms, would that make 32 Palms in the manga as well? And not make it anime only? --R. Lawton (talk) 14:32, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Talk:Eight_Trigrams_Thirty-Two_Palms.--~ Ultimate  Supreme  14:35, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with this, but some people do not--Elveonora (talk) 14:35, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * It wasn't that she paused, as in hesitation, but that her foot was seemingly injured and caused her to lose her momentum, losing her step. The intent and goal was 64, and she went on, pushing that last extra step, to hit 64. She also then declared she'd hit 64 again, this time without there being any delay (basically pushing through). Technically speaking, any time Neji did 64 in the manga, he did 32, but that's not how it actually works. --Taynio (talk) 14:44, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was that she paused in hesitation, that was the whole point of her inner monologue on Neji's advice and drawing strength from Naruto's example...so that she wouldn't hesitate anymore. -21:56, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Finally 64 Palms
Due to manga issue 633, can we finally add Eight Trigams 64 Plams back to her Jutsu box? 186.45.21.176 (talk) 03:45, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Her name has been added to the techniques infobox, so it will appear in Hinata's box as soon as the bug in the system has been fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 03:53, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect Link
The link that sends the reader to the page of Hinata in the Portuguese Brazil is incorrect. He is sent to the Portuguese wiki.--Alice Morato (talk) 20:30, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Medical-nin?
I think Hinata Hyūga maybe should be listed as medical-nin, cause she is seen using Mystical Palm Technique on Chikara Arc. → Sharingan_Triple.svg Rafael Uchiha  Uchiha_Symbol.svg 01:19, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Lots of bullshit is said or/and shown in the anime from time to time--Elveonora (talk) 11:48, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * The basics to be considered a medical ninja is to have a healing technique, no? So it would be acceptable to put "Medical-nin (Anime only)", because it proved to be able to use the Mystical Palm Technique in Chikara Arc.--Alice Morato (talk) 13:24, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't. The basics to be considered a medical ninja is to have undergone medical ninjutsu training. Hinata didn't do that and despite the fact that the anime showed her healing people, it just means she can use it not that she's a medic for knowing how to.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:40, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cerez365 ... Medical training of Hinata really was not shown. However, medical training of Hana Inuzuka was also not shown, and yet she is a medical ninja, because she saved Kiba and Akamaru. (Yes, I know, it was a fact presented in the Mangá, but not interfere with what i mean). If Hinata was saving a ninja, she is a medical ninja, only in anime.--Alice Morato (talk) 16:02, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to mention Hinata being capable of using healing palm no jutsu in the anime hasn't been recognized again since. You must remember that different directors/writers work on different fillers, it's highly possible that the latest staff simply ignores that and that it won't be expanded upon.--Elveonora (talk) 16:47, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Elveonora... I do not agree with what you said. If it were that way, anything anime should be disregarded. An example, a ninja shows a new technique, tool, or anything else in a filler of a writer/director. However, the new director/writer has not approved the idea, and did not make use of it in a new filler, so let's ignore that technique, tool, cuz the new director/writer did not use it anymore, do not you think ?--Alice Morato (talk) 16:02, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * We document everything, but that doesn't mean it's recognized by the canon.--Elveonora (talk) 23:03, June 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * That is not remotely correct. Hana is listed as veterinary medical-nin because the data book said she is. Their ability to use the mystical palm technique is not the only qualifier for a medical ninja especially for something only corroborated in the anime.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 01:56, June 25, 2014 (UTC)