Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24514198-20140604211103/@comment-7862945-20140710075600

@RexGodwin Nagato didn't have much conviction, he basically had no hope until Naruto came and showed the same conviction as Yahiko & Jiraya. He just connected with Naruto because of that. Nagato wanted to believe in Jiraya, Naruto was his escape. Nagato wasn't a mentally strong individual. He was a good well written character overall, and it was realistic (seriously, not every person is gonna be mentally strong, that is unrealistic).

Nagato wasn't ever a leader, he was a follower. While he may be a good strategist, smart, and powerful, he was never the type meant to lead. He was the kind of guy who just followed what other people said.

And for Obito, it wasn't because of the "pep talk". After nearly 19 yrs of work failed(cause he lost the Jubi power), his body was weakened and Black Zetsu tried to take over his body. He really joined up with Naruto when Madara confessed to having killed Rin (Rin's death was his entire drive, so the focus just changed). He felt regret cause he ended up teaming up with the guy who killed his beloved Rin.

Obito was done very well in my opinion, especially after he lost his mask.

Every person has a mental weakness, some different for some people than others, so if you compare what affects them to what affects you, then it might not work as well.

Madara BRAINWASHED Obito by feeding him ideas and speaking to him in ways that he couldn't help but listen. Then, watching his sensei being to late and his best friend killing the woman he loved just hit the hammer on the nail and completed his brain washing. Then the actions he did made it harder and harder to going back to escaping the brainwashing.

And while Izanagi seems lazy, it was kind of obvious that Itachi would use a genjutsu to extract the info. What was weird was Itachi trying to save Kabuto and redeem him.

Maybe your just missing some of the stuff that went on, and maybe your just comparing what you wanted to happen verse what actually happened.

Of course, you may not personally like some of the things too(cause not everybody likes everything and it's near impossible to find people with the exact same tastes). There may be many reasons. But it seems that you are only understand a part of the reasons for the characters changes when there are multiple factors involved.

Please, don't misunderstand, that's not a personal attack, but what I'm kind of feeling is that since you have bad expectations towards what is going on or have expectations that aren't being filled, you are viewing the series in a more negative light. It's because we are different we could probably see different parts from the same series.