Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180830063430/@comment-5085906-20180907160037

KyfieLita68 wrote: Itachi wins.

Totsuka phases through his sand and seals him. Genjutsu paralyzes an imperfect Jinchuuriki.

Minato loses. He can't tag his sand which neared 8G Gai's speed and made a footing for Kakashi to Kamui the TSBs on. Paced with an Otsutsuki and blocked his full-speed punch. FTG Markings are splattered over the vast area due to his extreme fusion with surrounding sand with his own sand. It proceeds to crush him due to it's force; a weapon which could permanently shut down a V3 Madara Susano. Shukaku was confident he wouldn't break out until he upgraded the version of Susano.

Shukaku uses that Wind Technique of his and kills him instantly; since his Hiraishin efforts are futile against great AOE. Sometimes I physically recoil at the shit that I read here.

Totsuka can phase through sand? When did that ever happen?

Also, you're telling me Gaara's sand, the same sand that could barely keep up with Lee's weightless speed, suddenly reached 8 Gates levels of speed? What, because Kakashi once used it at as a step ladder?! Give me a break. By that logic, why don't we include Minato's FTG with which he managed to teleport in front of 8 Gates Guy, take on four TSBs with his body, then teleport out of his sight?

And one more thing, by 'weapon which could permanently shut down a V3 Madara Susanoo' I assume you're talking about Desert Multi-Layered Burial Seal? If so, there's no way that is gonna work against a speedster like Minato. He'll teleport out of there before Gaara can even get to making something like that.

I'm not even gonna try arguing your other point cause it's some of the most blatant Minato nerfing I've seen around here.