Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-142748-20160508051638

Rachin123 wrote: @Super You need to get your eyes checked. The Rasengan Naruto used against Obito was not head sized. Maybe baby head sized at most. People say it isn't the amount of chakra that determines who wins the fight, but try to make Kisame seem like an idiot to Kakashi. Like really? Kisame has proved to be smart and resourceful. His attacks are big. Kakashi would up on his toes defending and dodging tidal waves of water and attacks from Kisame who could easily keep up with base speed Guy who is faster than Kakashi. Not to mention Kisame's giant dome of water, a thousand feeding sharks or giant shark bullet. Kakashi having lightning hardly changes anything when his attacks are rather small or not powerful enough. Kamui isn't going to help much here. With how Kisame was fighting Guy, it the chance for Kakashi to Kamui Kisame's "head off" would be difficult, and using it against his attacks are practically suicide for him (I also pointed out an error with Kamui that no one has yet to answer for me when Kakashi used it to teleport "Naruto"). But cone on guys, Kakashi is good, but he's outclassed here. Denial is an ugly thing. Kisame is smart, there's no doubt about it, but Kakashi is far more intelligent. His strategies trump Kisames on the battle field. And that Rasengan was head sized, I checked, it was almost as big as Obito's entire head. And even if it was smaller, it makes the whole head shot argument better: if he can hit a smaller target, traveling at the speed KCM Naruto fights at, WHY can't he head shot Kisame? Smaller target + fast speed = damn good accuracy.

Kisame fighting Guy isn't an argument either Rachin: Kakashi was keeping up with Guy while he was in the Sixth Gate, moving at the same speed. Same Sixth Gate that is too much for Kisame to fight against hence why he goes long range.

You're underestimating and downplaying Kakashi. We're in denial, no Rachin, you are.

9 Arts dragon wrote: 1.Than show me these brilliant tactics he came up with instead of doing the same things and exploiting obvious weaknesses ? Look at his battle with Zabuza, Deva Path, etc. He's shown thinking ahead way in advanced. You're downplaying the manga when it explicitly says he is that smart. 2. He's called tailed beast without a tail and still has chakra comparable to Naruto which dwarfs Kakashis by several times over No, his chakra is comparable to Part I Naruto's chakra. And again, it doesn't matter how much. Kakashi has the tools to defeat him and the tactics and knowledge. 3.Yes being outclassed and finding a miraculous way to turn the tides isn't something I see at all and no I didn't say bigger chakra bigger win I legit explained what I meant Kisame can contend with jinchurikis Kakashi cannot. Kisame can contend with Jinchuriki's due to having a natural advantage. He even explains why he has that advantage (which you keep ignoring repeatedly). Kakashi can't? He fought six Version 2 Jinchuriki and held his own, and they had the Rinnegan and Sharingan to boot! 4.Hes not bellow Obito he's only bellow Nagato and Itachi Nagato being the strongest member of the Akatsuki bar none Obito is stronger than Kisame. He's far stronger. The manga blatantly shows it. Despite you not liking him, it doesn't change the fact Obito was one of the strongest members of Akatsuki and was the fucking REAL leader of it.

Stop downplaying characters you don't like. 5.Im not I'm being realistic he's outclassed in both combat and power and the lol Kamui headshot is one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever heard he has never even done that to anyone No, you're being biased and your arguments are really bad. Kamui head shot is an argument since Kakashi's shown the capability of doing so, despite not doing so in the manga.

You downplay characters you don't like and push a character you do up. That's bias.