Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26104757-20170217031832/@comment-1512913-20170225221714

Anyway, it's backed up by canon that the Sannin when they fought Hanzo were nowhere near as powerful as in their later years. Edo Hanzo got beaten by a fodder Samurai.

As I said, the Sannin were yet to possess their most powerful techniques and powers at the time they fought Hanzo. They were Kakashi level each at most. Please don't have me post chapter references to prove which techniques and powers they got at what point, because if I do, you will look even more ignorant and stupid.

Now with Hanzo nonsense hopefully behind... Jiraiya's strongest technique can blow up a mountain easily according to databook. Then he also has an extremely powerful Earth Release technique in his arsenal, that could trap even Manda, even without use of Senjutsu, all that WHILE he was under Tsunade's drug as well. Let's not forget about many powerful summons like Gamabunta, Shima&Fukasaku, giant toad etc.

Had Madara not been an Edo Tensei at the time, Tsunade, punching through his Susanoo would have killed him. Not to mention she could lift and throw Gamabunta's weapon with little effort, don't tell me such beyond Herculean strength wouldn't hurt Kurama.

Do I really need to go into Orochimaru? Eight Branches Technique, super regeneration, near indestructible.