Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-6769189-20200811123641

Sidd77 wrote:

My point was that they are far weaker than their predecessors who we have feats of. Really? Because the previous 5 Kage together couldnt handle Edo Madara, and he was mountain buster at best. The current 4 Kage together incapacitated planet buster Kinshiki.

Kaguya had to be sealed away by a jutsu created by Ninja Jesus himself because Naruto and Sasuke with 6 Paths upgrades could defeat her any other way. And thwy needed help from 2-3 other people to make it happen.

Then comes along Momshiki and Kinshiki, threats greater than Kaguya, and 4 Kage without Bijuu or 6 Paths upgrades pretty much won, but this generation is weaker than the last? Right

Sidd77 wrote:

I said that they are high jonin level because while it’s implied that they improved over the time skip, Not implied. Stated and shown.

Sidd77 wrote:

their jutsu and fighting style are both generic and are unchanged since the war. Kurotsuchi still primarily uses Lava Release and Chojuro still uses Hiramekarei. And Naruto still uses SPSM/KCM/Shadow Clones and Rasengan. Sasuke still uses all the same abilities from the 4SWW. Why would they make major changes? As pointed out before, Tsunade had 2 major abilities. In-universe she has had those 2 abilities and the fighting style that revolved around it for YEARS. Its not always about the number of abilities one has, its about how refined and how well the apply those abilities to battle

I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
 * -Bruce Lee

Sidd77 wrote:

If all it took for someone to be Kage level was to master one of the seven swords, why was Chojuro the only mist swordsman to be selected as a possible Kage? Werent they all dead? Or defected? You are also ignoring the fact that its not just mastery of a discipline that makes one a Kage. It is the fact that their skills are above every other candidate

Sidd77 wrote:

Why not Mangetsu who mastered all seven swords? For all we know he may have been. But uh... he was kinda dead.

Sidd77 wrote:

Why was Kurotsuchi the only Lava Release user Tsuchikage to be selected when the village was known for Shinobi who had that kekkei genkai? She wasnt chosen for her Lava Release. She was chosen because she is the best shinobi in her village. Lava Release doesnt make her the best. A combination of her intellect and combat prowess makes her the best

Sidd77 wrote:

It’s clear that the definition of a Kage level Shinobi has changed overtime and the village’s power level has drastically decreased. The only thing clear here is that you have your own definition for Kage and domt carw what the series says.

Sidd77 wrote:

Also if you honestly think that being a Kage automatically means that you are the strongest in the village then that’s wrong on a factual level. It means you are one of the strongest

Sidd77 wrote:

Hokage Kakashi was weaker than Naruto and Sasuke, Fair

Sidd77 wrote:

Tsunade was weaker than Naruto, Not for a vast majority of the series.

Sidd77 wrote:

Tobirama was weaker than Madara, etc. Madara was no longer in the village when Tobirama was Hokage

Sidd77 wrote:

If we are to go by feats then Kitsuchi should be stronger than Kurotsuchi because Lava Release isn’t getting her out of the Earth Sandwich technique he uses. ina fight between big rocks and big fiery molten rocks, big fiery molten rocks wins. She could burn a whole through the Earth Sandwich

Sidd77 wrote:

Chojuro is only Kage because no one in the village has access to any of the 7 swords. The last 2 Mizukage werent Swordsman so this is one hell of a fallacy. Im pretty sure is the first Swordsman turned Mizukage.

This is like saying Naruto is only Hokage bacuse of he has Kurama and 6 Paths upgrades.

Minato was only Hokage because he could use FTG

A was only Raikage because of his Lightning Armor.

Is it really so crazy to think that a persons greatest skill is a large contributer to their high rank/status? The kid was 19 and a Kage Guard.

Sidd77 wrote:

Kurotsuchi isn’t the strongest in the village. Based on what? Kitsuchi's abilities being more palatable to you?

Sidd77 wrote:

Both of what I said above are disputable yes, but they aren’t wrong. If they arent wrong then they arent disputable...