Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150812154035/@comment-5936871-20150813042859

@UchihaMasters That isn't even true. Literally none of their attacks started working on Obito until they found out that his weakness was senjutsu, then Naruto went TBSM after Minato lended him a lot of Yin Kurama's chakra. While Sasuke used his SS with Jugo's help, since they were the only ones who could use senjutsu at the time. Minato could use it, but not that well, so he didn't have a need to use it at all. Besides, Minato said himself that Naruto and Sasuke were the stars of the show during that fight. They were the ones who had the most raw power and the ones who could actually die, Minato and Tobirama were just acting as support basically. But in reality, Minato and Tobirama can definitely beat EMS Sasuke. Tobirama defeated an MS Izuna who was said to be MS Madara's equal, and he quickly grabbed Juubito's TSB and teleported it back to him before it exploded. Minato's FTG is even better than Tobirama's, and his BF is pretty good too, and was hailed as the fastest during his time, even faster than the Raikage (Both the Fourth and Third, since Naruto said the Third was just as fast as the Fourth, and we know Minato is above the fourth) and we already know how insanely fast they are (Dodging close-range Amaterasu, dodging two Rasenshurikens from SM Naruto while at a disadvantage) and he managed to take out Obito quickly despite Obito using his hax Kamui, which many years later a NTCM Naruto, Gyuki, Lee, and Kakashi all had some trouble dealing with while teaming up on Obito (I know he was an adult then, but from what we've seen his abilities and fighting style are basically the same, so he wouldn't be that much stronger and his kamui doesn't seem any faster). But you get my point, an EMS Sasuke isn't much to Minato or Tobirama, they both could easily avoid his attacks and wait until he can no longer use Susanoo. Or Minato could drop Gamabunta on it, and considering Tobirama's praise in water release, I'm sure he has a large water release jutsu he can use to counter Susanoo. I mean I can see an old Hiruzen losing, but a base Minato and Tobirama can defeat EMS Sasuke, so Minato wont even need Kurama.

I can see Minato taking on Itachi, Tobirama taking on Sasuke, and Hiruzen taking on Shisui. In the end, Minato and Tobirama's speed (as well Tobirama's water release) allow them to counter Itachi and Sasuke's movesets. It wont be easy, but as long as they don't make eye contact and use their speed to avoid their attacks, specifically their Susanoos, and either redirect a Susanoo attack back at it (Minato) or use a large scale water release tech (Tobirama) they can effectively counter most of their moves and then hit them when the time is right (Minato's Rasengan and Tobirama's Water Severing Wave) to kill them.

If Hiruzen was able to hold Shisui off for a bit or fight about evenly. Then once Minato and Tobirama are done they can quickly assist him in Shisui's death. Even if the battle doesn't go exactly this way, and the circumstances are a bit different. The Uchiha are outclassed against these opponents.