Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180411220924

Kamui doesnt function or have the same effect as FTG. Obito instantly appear any marked location the way FTG allows. It doesnt change the users curent position on the battlefield.

The execution of Obito's counters is limited by his own speed and opponant who are significantly faster can avoid them. Look at when Naruto dodged A. A was in the perfect position to hit Naruto and was mid swing but Naruto was so much faster that he dodged and ran around him. Juubidara and Juubito did the same thing to Sage Minato and KCM Minato respectively.

He wasnt trying to kill Naruto. He even said that he expected Minato to catch Naruto and he set the paper bombs so that Minato would have to leave and have to focus on getting Naruto to safe location while he exctracted Kurama. Even Minato came to he same conclusion. If he succeeded in killing Naruto then Minato wouldnt leave and he wouldnt be able to extract Kurama. He knew Minato's abilities and common tricks like paper bombs would actually get him. Minato also only escaped from Obitos warp Kamui and chains because of FTG. He has no real excuse for the chains because, as i mentioned above, Obito would still have to move at Minato speeds or higher to successfully execute his counter.

Torune's poison didnt need to land any kind of hit on Obito. Any physical contact would cause infection. This was made obvious when he accidentally infected the Yamanaka dude. Obito touched touched Torune, not the other way around.

When did Guy make contact? He did let Kakashi win. He said it was time for him to become junchuriki of the 10 Tails and the 1st thing he did was take Kakashi to the Kamui dimension. Obito was dodging and countering KCM Naruto with speed and tanking hits from him. He even led a small chase on Naruto and remained close. You really think Kakashi is on that level. I already named the chapters where Obito did these things.

Also no he couldnt just beat the shit out of Kakashi until he uses Raikiri because Kakashi only uses it when he heels he has the enemy pinned down. There is also the fact that he didnt use any Rinnegan abilities in that fight, and Deva path was enough to easily take Kakashi single handedly.