Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25498052-20141004162612/@comment-24649454-20141105213524

TricksterKing wrote: he can absorb chakra and he can attack, just because he hasn't learned how to do both at the same time doesn't matter. It was nothing to do with him not knowing how to do both at the same time, it was that he physically couldn't due to him having a brand new rinnegan, nothing to do with his control over it. Do you get the difference?

TrueAlphaJ wrote: Did sasuke come into the world with his sharingan activated/unlocked or did he have to go through different ordeals for him to awake the three tomoe sharingan... You don't seem to grasp the concept of base forms, like I said earlier, Sasuke has a 4 in genjutsu according to the 3rd databook, the databooks are written using a tier system and are based on a character's base form. As such, Sasuke before he awakened EMS had a 4th tier level genjutsu rating. This is only possible (given his shown feats) if he is permitted the usage of his Sharingan meaning that Sasuke's Sharingan (and possibly even EMS now but improbably) is/are considered to be part of his base form. You don't get to decide what Sasuke's base form is constituted of, Kishimoto does and I don't think you can argue with what the manga-ka says.

TrueAlphaJ wrote: ...when was the last time sasuke or naruto has been seen fighting in base forms... Again like I've already said, they fought each other just after Sasuke killed Danzo 11 times thanks to Izanagi, not to mention fighting Kakashi, 3 kage and killing hundreds if not thousands of Samurai, with little to no rest in between. As a result he was extremely fatigued and deactivated his Sharingan for his clash with Naruto collectively resulting in Naruto being at a massive advantage in terms of handicaps yet their fight ended in a stalemate. Tbh, I'm not sure how you could forget that encounter, it was rather memorable.

TrueAlphaJ wrote: ...what is a samurai compared wo sasuke? fodder thats like saying killing white zetsu is impressive 1 Samurai isn't impressive no, but Sasuke didn't kill 1 Samurai, he killed hundreds if not thousands of them and he did so effortlessly. People never say that Madara's meteor jutsu isn't impressive even though all of the people he killed using it were fodder Shinobi. Remember that after the 1st day of the war, 40,000 Shinobi had died and 50,000 white Zetsu had died. Also even fodder can be impressive in large enough numbers as evidenced by the tug-of-war the Shinobi Alliance had with Obito concerning the Juubi's chakra. Basically your point lacks either thought, logic or both.

Saving this reply as I go along btw, as it's rather long and I was writing it earlier and was on my last point when suddenly I lost everything I'd typed thus far somehow.