Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26866422-20160511205630

I'm thinking bout it for few years but how can we gauge, determine, figure out the levels of powerful Shinobi?

Kaguya, Hamura and Hagoromo, Indra and Ashura apart but what about others?

I mean there are obvious differences between Itachi and Iruka, but what about EMS Madara and Itachi? What about Orochimaru and Madara? Or Oonoki and Deidara?

I know that basically we determine who woould win by number of jutsus and some other attributes, but what about whole settings, opponents? Aso why do we see and think only what we actually see in manga or anime? Like 200 pages of manga you get favourism of Itachi abilities, then you have Sakumo Hatake who is on par with Sannin or bit better, or Jiraiya who is hailed as sannin and strong shinobi?

From my perspective given certain conditions and preparations, Shikamaru can defeat Madara himself. Then i watch Deidara vs. Sasuke and remember about C4 Karura, which is jutsus deadly to anyone who isnt Uchiha and doesnt have Raiton. Why doesnt such jutsu make Deidara top10 and Tsukuyomi makes Itachi top10, without even considering other abilities?

Why overestimatin and underestimating? 