Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20180327041446/@comment-26107879-20180402220227

Lol. Is Lorenzo still debating this?

1) It wasn't a flick of the wrist. It was a whole arm movement that happened when Ay's fist was literally almost touching his nose. How can Ay be faster if he can't push his fist a centimeter forward before Minato can fling his arm upwards and toss a kunai, while Ay was already moving, at his fastest, and Minato didn't move until his fist was there? No logic there. If he can't move his arm just a centimeter forward before Minato can do all that, then no way is he faster.

2) Minato's Rasengan isn't as limited as you might think. It's stated he can alter the size of his Rasengan at will. And unlike Naruto, could form it with a single hand whenever he desires. "While it requires very precise chakra control to use, Minato's mastery allowed him to form it with either hand instantly and vary its size from standard, to Big Ball Rasengan-sized,[54] and even as large as his Tailed Beast Mode." ~ Minato Wiki Page. I doubt Ay can survive a Kurama Mode sized Senjutsu infused Rasengan. So there you go. That's how Minato can hurt Ay, but I still firmly believe just regular Rasengan is enough, since it has been shown the Rasengan pierced just as good as the Chidori if not greater and had overwhelming wide spread damage.

3) Though he can't maintain it long, it's never stated how long he can do Sage Mode for. He has shown he can re-use it multiple times and that it can last for multiple chapters, so it isn't just 1 technique and it's gone. Minato indeed has perfect Sage Mode. Imperfect showcases animal characteristics, Minato does not. His only stated weakness with Sage Mode is that he can't maintain it long and that he hasn't practiced many techniques with it. BUT. He still has enough skill to use it almost instantly and infuse his Rasengan with Senjutsu. That is enough for this debate.

4) Even then. Minato outsped Ay with just base speed and Flying Raijin. You really think the Raikage can compete with him if he uses Sage Mode and Flicker? Get real.

Minato outspeeds Raikage. Just Base form was enough, so it's clear as day with him actually going all out with Sage Mode and Flicker, that he'd smoke him.