Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-27823212-20160711194458

Ravenlot 27 wrote: C`mon, Shinsusenju isn't that ultimate weapon as you depicted, 8Gates, especially against Naruto/Sasuke duo. Fisttly, it's grounded, thus becoming useless against opponents able to fly, which Naruto and Sasuke exactly are (with Six Paths Senjutsu and PS respectivelly). Them being able to fly is irrelevant. Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o can't actually attack Shinsuusenju from this range unless Sasuke absorbs the Biju chakra into his Susano'o to use Indra's arrow. In that case, Hiraishin warps it away.

If Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o wants to attack Shinsuusenju, it has to move into it's range and none of it's attacks can damage the statue.

Explosion from Hashirama & Madara's VOTE clash>>>>>>>>>>Bijudama+Chidori.

The latter stripped off half of Sasuke's Perfect Susano while the former didn't do any damage to Shinsuusenju's body. All of Sasuke's attacks bounce off the statue without doing any damage.

As far as Naruto is concerned, if Kurama stays in the air spamming Bijudamas, Shinsuusenju finger flicks them all back at Naruto. God gates, which come down from the air, would pin down an airborne Kurama with ease.

Secondly, it's hardly mobile, thus almost stationary, which leaves it an easy target for the opponents out of its range. Naruto/Sasuke don't even need to use their strongest attacks (Six Paths Rasenshuriken/Indra's Arrow) to destroy it, it's just enough to spam some lesser, but still devastating techniques (as TBB) to obliterate Shinsusenju from above, and Tobirama/Minato wouldn't be able to do a lot cause they can't teleport multiple objects coming at them (as shown in the fight against Juubito, where they said they could warp away only 2 of 4 firing TBBs together). Naruto's Bijudama has never produced an explosion anywhere near as devastating as the one that occurred during VOTE and even that explosion didn't do any damage to the statue, so where are we getting this idea that Naruto's Bijudama can destroy it?

Shinsuusenju would literally tank every single one of his Bijudama in the same fashion that Ten Tails tanked BM Naruto & Bee's combined Bijudama. The only moves that are a threat are Dual Rasenshuriken and Indra's arrow.

There's also an alternative of Sasuke flying down with PS and slicing Shinsusenju in half, where Hiraishin isn't going to do a damn thing at all. So, while being incredibly effective in the direct combat, Shinsusenju becomes pretty useless if opponent doesn't stay on the ground. I even doubt that Naruto/Sasuke stronest attacks can actually be warped with the FTG, given the amount of chakra in them and their size. Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o slicing Shinsuusenju in half is comical when it couldn't do so to a much less durable and powerful construct.

Naruto & Sasuke's strongest attacks are smaller and less powerful than Ten Tails' Bijudama, which was already warped by Hiraishin.

Great God Gates also aren't so dangerous, since Naruto/Sasuke can easily free each other if the one of them is struck. Moreover, we should remember that, while being able to restrain Juubi, the Gates were casually shattered by Juubito (non-controlled state) and reincarnated Madara (after Rinne Tensei), that's why their hardness is still under the question. How are they freeing each other if they are struck? God gates pin Kurama to the ground. Sasuke tries to assist only for his Perfect Susano'o to be obliterated by Chojo Kebetsu.

Obito focused the power of Ten Tails in the form of chakra arms and Madara never broke out off gates on the same scale as the ones that held Ten Tails.