User talk:ZabuzaTheDemon

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Re:
Still, edits like this "Third Raikage" are redundant and pointless. Also, please make proper use of redirects, don't do this either: "Third Raikage". I have no issues with you adding references to the article, but please read and abide by the Manual of Style's WikiText Style and make proper editing of links such as this: "Third Raikage". And also, when leaving messages on a user's talkpage, please make use of headers (" == == ") to introduce a new message and separate it from old messages on the user's talkpage, for instance: "== (insert header title here) ==" use that to introduce a new message on a user's talkpage. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 04:21, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Yahiko and the Second Shinobi World War
According to what we know, that's all correct. It doesn't fit into the timeline, I think, and it contradicts Choji's words, but well... it's what the databook says. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:22, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Nagato and Konan both died at 35yrs old, they were actually each 2 years older than Yahiko and 4 years older than Obito, meaning when they first met Obito and Zetsu they were 15, 17 and 17 while Obito was still 13. Also Yes the ages are trustworthy. The only thing I can see that is entirely not trustworthy at all is them trying to say Hiruzen became Hokage 14 years before Naruto's birth which is entirely wrong by ALL other given info. Minato and Kushina would of been 41 if they never died, meaning they were both 6 years older than Nagato and Konan and 8 years older than Yahiko. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:37, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Wait a minute Itachi, let's take this slowly. First of you are the one that convinced me that Obito was much older than 13, I hope you don't change that. Secondly I am confused on how you did the calculation for Yahiko, I fully understand Nagato-Konan.ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 08:19, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Listen carefully. According to Kishi and Studio Pierrot, Kakashi who was born September 15th was stil 12 at Kanabi Bridge. Obito is born February 10th and he is born the same year as Kakashi. That means Obito himself was 13 still when he met the Ame Orphans. DB4 says Nagato(Born September 29th) and Konan(Born February 20th died at 35 while Obito was 31. Yahiko also born February 20th was 15 when he died which was soon after meeting Obito. Do the math here Zabuza.. Nagato and Konan are 2 years older than Yahiko, who is 2 years older than Obito. So at the moment that Yahiko died, Obito was 13, Yahiko was 15, Nagato and Konan were 17. Minato was 24 the year after that so 23-17= 6 so Minato is 6 years older than Nagato and Konan, 8 years older than Yahiko, and 10 years older than Obito and Kakashi. One last time, Obito at the time of Nagato and Konans deaths was 31, Obito from the Kakashi Gaiden all the way until Yahiko dies was still 13. You understand it now? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 09:06, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Are you saying your timeline is incorrect, it took me days to understand this because I was actually using your timeline as my focal point example, I thought Nagato died at 16 ANB which was wrong, in fact it was 17 ANB as Seelantau said in his timeline. But why are you dismissing Obito's age, you convinced me he wasn't 13, in fact much older based on the Genin age. NOW I FULLY UNDERSTAND, I will start working on your timeline Block by Block. So the first Block we should change is the Yahiko-Nagato-Konan death and birth, also I find it interesting you used other characters timeline, I never thought about this way, I think we can do this for other characters, interesting approach. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 13:40, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yes the timeline I have on my page is imperfect and outdated to the point I forgot about it, but it seems your on a mission to update and fix it and I am ok with that. Just remember whatever changes you want to make we need to talk about first. You can do the changes we already talked about on my page just now too. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:26, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Dully Noted ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 16:28, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Here ya go
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:ItachiWasAHero/Timeline#UPDATING.21.21 ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:29, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Edit
All that user SSJ2AJB did was add a image, nothing got removed from Kushina's ability section? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:57, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: C-rank edit
The editor that undid your revision is female — just so you don't misgender her again.

I cannot speak to why she undid your edit altogether - that's simply how she chose to handle the edit. The fact that it wasn't written in a grammatically correct format may have contributed to that, and while you did leave a reference, there was no reference heading so it would have "broke" the page.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 17:21, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Table
"<...> any criticism is welcome.", - your words, not mine m8. :] Please don't get salty. The table is unneeded and is incorrect in some cases.--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:10, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

The table is needed to understand the group dynamics of the previous and the latest generation. I understand people like you who want to wash away all the effort is taken to compile a perfect wikitable. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 00:12, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * You know that it's super easy to make wikitables like that, right? It's unneeded tho. The article is on the team not on the each individual character.--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:14, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * It also contains speculation (with Kakashi) and inaccurate information.--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:15, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

What is the inaccuracy speak fast instead of repeating your words again and again, you are wasting my time. You just have been here for a month and you think you can boss people around???? ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 00:19, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry that you feel that way, but I'm not bossing you around :]. Inaccuracies: Mangetsu had wielded all swords, the "current" generation is wrong because it is not "current", speculation with Kakashi, etc. I'll avoid repeating myself so I won't repeat the previous parts (which are as valid as these arguments.) Also DO NOT be insulting or you'll have to face severe consequences from one of our awesome moderators.--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:21, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * You are inaccurate and know nothing about Naruto, Mangetsu has the ability to wield the swords, he is not the primary wielder of all the swords, hence the difference. In fact Kishi hinted his primary weapon being the last sword (Hiramekarei) which is used by the future Mizukage. Also I never said the current generation, re-read and stop lying about the table. I wrote the current owners. Kakashi wasn't speculation it was confirmed when he took it in possession and even used it, it's whereabouts are unknown but we can assume Kakashi putted it somewhere. What consequence would I face when someone who knows nothing about the Seven Swordsman comes bossing around me here???? Fake fans like you are annoying as fuck. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 00:25, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * It was revealed that, at some point in his life, Mangetsu had wielded all seven swords, either separately or together (Fourth databook revealed that, but it also mentioned that he did not master all of them). You did say "current generation", your headline was "Strongest and current generation". "We can assume". The fact that Kakashi had picked it up and swung it once does not mean that he wields it now, so... speculation. Please do not be insulting.--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:30, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * English do you speak it. You know the word ABILITY, it is clear the members allowed him to carry the sword and even train with it, but as soon as battle they are the primary wielders, that is why he is the one with the scroll in the team, the one that summons the weapons.

> You did say "current generation", your headline was "Strongest and current generation"

No my headline said latest and strongest generation Stop lying through your teeth please, go check my profile, you will see.

>"We can assume". The fact that Kakashi had picked it up and swung it once does not mean that he wields it now

We can assume he is the LATEST wielder, the same way Killer B is the latest wielder and owner, there is no evidence that Kakashi has given to anyone the sword.

>Please do not be insulting

Your stupidity is insulting to me, and that I have to argue basic Naruto facts about the Seven Swordsmen. Waste of my goddamn time. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 00:37, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Emm... My english is perfectly fine. To answer your first question: You don't know that. It was revealed that he had used them and that is plenty. Second: "latest" = "current", srry. Third: We can't assume nothing until it's proven otherwise; We can also assume that Kakashi had returned that sword to Chojuro as the five villages are in great terms, so here's an assumption for you. Also check this. Have a wonderful day/evening :)--Ghostrick142 (talk) 00:40, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * ZabuzaTheDemon, you should watch your language, insulting others does not help your point getting across, it merely brings you closer to being blocked and your content removed for sure. So if you really want to feature that table so badly, bring it to the talkpage for other people to bring in their opinion. If there is broad approval, it gets added. If not, things stay as they are. Norleon (talk) 00:44, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

>Emm... My english is perfectly fine.

I don't think so, it seems very bad, or else you would understand that Mangetsu is not the owner of the seven swords, he merely has the ability to use them.

>To answer your first question: You don't know that.

I do know that, that is why I said it.

>It was revealed that he had used them and that is plenty.

Just use them, not the primary wielder and owner. His primary weapon is the Hiramekarei

>Second: "latest" = "current"

Open the dictionary and you will how wrong you are.

>Third: We can't assume nothing until it's proven otherwise

It has already been proven.

>We can also assume that Kakashi had returned that sword to Chojuro as the five villages are in great terms

We can't assume that becuase it never happened, what happened was Kakashi took the sword as the rightful owner.

>so here's an assumption for you. Also check this.

I see nothing new, you are just repeating my main point which Mangetsu has the ability to use the swords, so what???

>Have a wonderful day/evening :)

A wonderful day/evening would be to see the table. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 00:53, January 6, 2016 (UTC)