Talk:Deidara

Telescopic Left Eye?
So I know Deidara's left eye was stated to be able to combat genjutsu. But looking over the chapters with him after being resurrected I noticed something. He tends to keep his left eye closed (or else shielded behind his bang) [chpt. 512, p.17- chpt. 513] Then in another chapter he does a gesture over his eye like he's using the scope [chpt. 516, pgs. 8-9] and confirms the number of opponents. He did open both from time to time throughout chapters 517-519 but those were situations that would stimulate shock. This lead me to conclude that Deidara had possibly trained his left eye to attain "telescopic" sight as well. Of course nothing on a Byakugan level but I think it'd be worth a note oui? O.o--Cerez365™ 19:07, September 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't believe that this one instance alone is enough to infer that Deidara possesses telescopic sight, as it isn't really made clear as to whether it is the distance or the cover provided by the trees which makes the fleeing group difficult to observe. Although I would agree that Deidara's left eye seemingly has better perception than his right, because it isn't clearly defined as to which aspects this pertains to, I don't think there is enough evidence to make such a specific conclusion. Blackstar1 (talk) 20:43, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Missing technique
I don't see a mention of his attack he attempted to use to disintegrate Sasuke at the cellular level.
 * It is called C4. I see it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:28, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Quote
In the Quotes section, I thought Zetsu was the one who said "Tobi, even the Budha looses patience when insulted a third time..." Can somebody please tell me if that isn't the case? TheGirlWithTheSharingan (talk) 02:55, November 10, 2011 (UTC) 02:53, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * No it was Deidara, though what was there wasn't what he said exactly.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 03:30, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... ok now I'm confused. I just saw that episode today (English Dubbed) and SOMEONE said "Tobi even the Budha looses patience when insulted a third time..." And it didn't sound like Deidara, so I assumed it was Zetsu. I'll have to go check. --TheGirlWithTheSharingan (talk) 03:34, November 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * In the manga, it was Deidara who said it. To be exact, he says, . He uses a Japanese proverb that basically means that after brushing someone's face thrice, even someone as gentle and patient as a Buddha will become angry. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:00, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, Deidara said it. Sorry about that. Allthought I was reading the manga (In English) and Deidara said "Tobi even the..."--TheGirlWithTheSharingan (talk) 18:57, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Chakra Flow
Aren't deidara's techniques chakra flow? He kneads, or FLOWS, his chakra into his clay.--GundamFun711 (talk) 00:29, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

The other jutsus you asked about wern't chakra flows, this jutsus isn't chakra flows, and the next jutsu you ask about won't be chakra flows.
 * If simply putting chakra into something counted as chakra flow, every ninjutsu and genjutsu would be chakra flow. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:01, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Eye Enhancement
In the latest anime episode, Deidara's eye enhancement is missing. Like, it's not even there at all. Should it be added to the article (note: I added this but it was removed.) --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:00, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the mechanical scope over his left eye?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:02, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's completely gone. --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:02, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why or how would he have that O.o It's not part of his body so Kabuto couldn't exactly bring it back.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:03, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hasn't he always had that mechanical scope since being defeated by Itachi ? Wasn't it directly affixed to him ? It never came off on any other battle he was in, so I'm assuming it was completely fixed onto the side of his face. --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:06, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * He didn't have it when he fought Sasuke. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:07, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. I've seen all the subbed episodes, but I thought he had that scope in that battle. Probably will have to wait til I see it again on DVD. --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:09, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't affixed. Still it's a man-made tool so it wouldn't have been revived with him. I'm not even sure what purpose it served since he "scoped" without it after bring revived.--Cerez365™ 17:11, March 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * AFAIK, it was for taking pictures (shown in the first arc of Shippuden when he debuted). How he was able to see the pictures is beyond me. --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:13, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought that was what it was for as well at one point. However it seemed that he was just changing the focus of the scope or something. The pictures wouldn't really serve a purpose.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:18, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. The scope was only ever seen being used just before Deidara battled Gaara. He never used it any other time, leading me to suspect that he used it when he wanted to. Seems a really pointless thing if you ask me. Thanks for the answers guys, I thought it looked really weird that it just disappeared (and the fact that he's been out of the series for a little over 100 episodes, you are likely to forget that quite easily). --Speysider (Talk Page) 17:23, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Deidara's extra mouth
Does Deidara have an extra mouth on his chest bigger than the others on his hands?E.N.A (talk) 02:05, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, he does. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 02:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

ThanksE.N.A (talk) 02:11, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 02:14, March 20, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Holding back?
"Angered that Sasuke, like Itachi, is refusing to accept it as an art, Deidara used C4, his most powerful bomb. It exploded, and appeared to have killed Sasuke, but it was simply a Sharingan genjutsu from Sasuke, the same one Itachi had used. Sasuke then appeared to have constricted him with one of his bombs, but the genjutsu was dispelled by Deidara, as he revealed his left eye could dispel genjutsu, and since Sasuke had held back when using the technique, unlike Itachi, Deidara was able to dispel it."

This is what is written on Deidara's article. When was it mentioned that Sasuke held back the genjutsu?--FlyingRaijin (talk) 11:00, April 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Please remember to sign your posts with four tilde→ ~.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:23, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

does he know tobi's secret
When i was reading and watching Deidara and Kabuto fighting Onoki and his group. Deidara mentioned "Madara" does this mean that Deidara knows Tobi secret.--Gamma Venom 567 (talk) 21:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter please?--Elveonora (talk) 22:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Stitch arms
After Deidara got revived,do you think he had the stitches on him arms?--Mju (talk) 02:26, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

That was Onoki. Skitts (talk) 02:27, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Turr! I think he means from when he had it reattached by Akatsuki's seamstress. Why would he have the stitches? His soul was reincarnated into a whole/new body. This isn't a forum by the way, your questions seem to be bordering on forum talk.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 12:27, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

arms back thanks to...
Well, might sound speculative but it's kinda self-explainable at the same time, that since both Kamui and Tobi's technique share the same "other space" then Tobi just received Deidara's arms from the dimension and brought them back--Elveonora (talk) 02:38, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Only Deidara's elbow was sent to the other dimension, his forearm simply fell off after that. The other arm was crushed by Gaara, so I don't remember how he got that one back. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:32, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'd have to re-watch/re-read some, but I think the arm crushed by Gaara wasn't destroyed completely, like he could use it afterwards. But if not, then we should put up a trivia that Deidara somehow had replaced his arm or something.--Elveonora (talk) 03:37, August 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't it mentioned somewhere already? I remember Tobi finding Deidara's forearm, looking for his ring, just before Deidara found Tobi and the part of his arm that fell to the ground. Kakuzu reattached them with his threads, and used what seemed like a dead body's elbow area to replace his lost elbow. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:04, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Deidera and Gari
Is it a possibility that Deidera and Gari could be related and come from the same clan?--Black Ronin8 (talk) 13:50, August 5, 2012 (UTC)Black Ronin8
 * Possibly. We simply don't know, thought they look nothing alike. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Grammar
This article has numerous grammatical issues that make it difficult to read. In the first paragraph alone there are numerous run-on sentences, tense disagreements, and misspellings. Cleaning it up would be pretty easy but it is locked. Captainpirate (talk) 06:21, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Another quote
Can someone add this quote he said to Tobi: Pop art is dead, my art is superflat! I think it's very catchy and it stayed in my memory.
 * Deidara has enough quotes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:21, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

timeline
There's this scene of Deidara bombing Iwa in the anime as he left with a very young Kurotsuchi watching. Her age is unknown but she sure is at least 16 and younger than Deidara was, due to "nii" statement... 18 at max. Deidara was in Akatsuki for some time, and had left the village even before being "recruited" thus don't tell me a child-early teen Deidara was already a missing nin O_O Just pointing out it might not be canonical as: --Elveonora (talk) 14:56, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't remember such scene in the manga, unless it was mentioned in a databook
 * Her age was just portrayed incorrectly
 * I don't believe the timeline is correct either in that depiction because Kurotsuchi should have been older/closer in age to Deidara and not a child but what are you asking here? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:06, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it should be used because it's canonical validity is questionable as it's anime-only and more than likely not correct time-event portrayal--Elveonora (talk) 15:18, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Orochimaru left when Itachi was 11 and first joined akatsuki making Deidara 9 at that time, When Itachi finally came back to Akatsuki at age 13, and met Kisame and became his partner, thats when they went to help find Sasori a new partner, so Deidara was most definitely 11 years old when Itachi defeated him and made him join akatsuki. So that flashback has some truth to it. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:51, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be "sclera" ?
For the last few sentences in the "Appearance" section for Deidara, where it says "and his irides were black in colour." Shouldn't that be sclera ? I thought the word "irides" was just a synonym for irises (the blue part of Deidara's eyes) Correct me if I'm wrong.--DeiDoDei (talk) 05:46, October 13, 2012 (UTC)DeiDoDei
 * Fixed.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:28, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Blast
The blast wich caused Deidara's is in the shape of The Tower of the Sun, wich is made by Taro Okamoto. Am I right or not? If this is right, can someone add this by TRIVIA? For some reason I can't do this...

You are correct, Deidara's C0 blast does resemble Tower of The Sun. However, this is already stated in the trivia section on the C0 page. Given that it is stated there, this information doesn't need to be stated in the trivia section on Deidara's main page. DeiDoDei (talk) 13:01, November 14, 2012 (UTC)DeiDoDei

Seiyuu
His seiyuu is Katsuhiko Kawamoto. KATSUhiko Kawamoto. Is this a coincidence?

Deidara's seiyū's name and his phrase "katsu" aren't related to each other. Katsuhiko Kawamoto is simply his name. So, yes this is purely a coincidence. Please sign your posts using four tildes (~). DeiDoDei (talk) 12:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)DeiDoDei

Deidara in Naruto x UT?
I noticed on Deidara's info box that it says his OVA debut is Naruto x UT (the eighth OVA) but I just watched it, and I did not see Deidara any where. As far as I know, the only relation Deidara has to this OVA is that his image is printed on one of the DVD packs this DVD was packaged and sold in. Maybe I'm missing something...

DeiDoDei (talk) 17:19, November 22, 2012 (UTC)DeiDoDei

Shadowclone?
sorry for bringing up something so small but when did Deidara use shadowclones s: I don't remember him ever using one --178.11.235.49 (talk) 22:01, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

When fighting Naruto and the latter getting amok I think--Elveonora (talk) 22:12, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

they were more clay clones than shadow clones --  Jmootam1999 22:15, March 31, 2013 (UTC) No, his clay clone technique is separate from shadow clone that he also has used back there--Elveonora (talk) 23:08, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

The third databook said that He uses Shadow Clones to use that "self-destruction" (to fool enemies) technique. And so, we list it.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 23:25, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

It should be stated in the Trivia section that he has a tendency to end his sentences with Hmm just like Zaku Abumi! 208.65.172.242 (talk) 13:21, June 17, 2013 (UTC) Carignan

"Hmm"
Should it be mentioned in trivia that he says Hmm a lot just like Zaku Abumi?Carignan66.211.134.194 (talk) 18:11, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Raiton (Presumed)
Explosion Style is suspected to be a mix of Earth and Lightning right? Then shouldn't its users have Lightning (Presumed) in their infobox's (Evilpuppy (talk) 20:58, October 31, 2013 (UTC))


 * 1) No, we don't speculate on that, therefore it won't be added, and 2) we don't know what the second element of Explosion Release is, so I don't know where you came up with that. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 21:29, October 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry it took me so long to respond but my reasoning was based on thisarticle. In it the wheel thing shows explosion to be presumed as a mix of earth and lightning. Also we do presume nature on occasion my only example being tsunade's presumed lightning. (Evilpuppy (talk) 03:14, December 5, 2013 (UTC))


 * And if you see it, there's a question mark next to the Explosion Release icon. The Explosion Release icon had to go somewhere in the image. Not including it in the image would be the same as saying that it's not an advanced nature, or that it's not a mix of two basic natures, which I find it worse than saying it might be those two. The icon was added that particular spot because out of the still available spots, it was the most suitable and least speculative, even with the question mark. It amazes me that most people still can't reach that conclusion. I've lost count on how many times I have typed this explanation down. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:40, December 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I saw the question mark and I know what it means. I'm saying that if we're going to assume that lightning is the other element than we should uphold that elsewhere. But if it was just put in that spot as a placeholder I could understand why we wouldn't. (Evilpuppy (talk) 00:25, December 6, 2013 (UTC))


 * On that note, while I'm not always against adding speculative information to articles, I'm totally against it in this case. Why don't you just explain that Bakuton's two natures aren't known yet and leave it out of the picture? Adding it is not better than leaving it out, in my opinion. Seelentau 愛議 10:29, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox
Something about his current pic looks really crappy to me >_< its a pretty bad depiction of him, hows this for a better one? Better quality, more typical expression, and facing the "camera" directly. --RexGodwin (talk) 06:15, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope, nope, nope. Not good at all from my point of view. Yeah it's frontal view, but he's kinda looking up in a creepy kind of way. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol.svg Talkpage 07:56, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Your image just sucks. Also, am I going to have to go to a sysop and ask they enact an infobox image change ban to stop this? It's ridiculous. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 10:22, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploaded the same as before, just better quality. No need for change.. --Kasan94 Nara Symbol.svg Talkpage 11:09, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

The current one is really good, but yours is kinda weird, it makes him look really creepy. Munchvtec (talk) 13:11, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Why are some people so obsessed with infobox images? @Sajuuk you probably will have to, but it's the exact same users over and over again that want to change these images because they feel like the current one isn't good enough. WindStar7125  (Talk) (Contributions) 15:02, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Age?
So, why is it that we are now saying his age is 18-19 instead of 19? Can someone please explain this to me? DeiDoDei (talk) 14:55, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because the user who added the 18- thinks that since Deidara appeared at the beginning of Shippuden, were Naruto was only 15, Deidara should be a year younger than in the third databook, too. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:22, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It makes sense now. DeiDoDei (talk) 15:37, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

In before Snapper removes it tho--Elveonora (talk) 17:42, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

And why was it removed? Is it because it is considered speculation? DeiDoDei (talk) 19:16, September 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's been removed already, Elve. It was removed because it's not true. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:56, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, so why does the infobox have his age at 18-19 again? I thought we decided that wasn't true. --DeiDoDei (talk) 18:38, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not everyone reads talk pages. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:01, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Updates from Fourth Data Book
Hi guys, I wanted to point out that since Deidara was only 18 or 19 when the third data book was made it is definitely important to get his stats from the fourth data book.

Some of his stats might be outdated. For example his intelligence could be a 5 out of 5 now. I see that it is still listed as 4.5 out of 5. I referenced many sources online and I found out that this rating of 32 was only valid as of the third data book.

We need to make sure his stats are updated as of the fourth data book. Okay? Should be good. Rdnaruto (talk) 21:51, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * The 4th databook contains no statistics, so there is nothing to update. --Sajuuk talk 21:53, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, he's dead. He died during the chapters that are covered by the third databook, so the stats you see are from the time of his death. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:02, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, that makes sense if there is nothing in the fourth data book. I guess since he is no longer carried as a character there is nothing to update since that episode where he and another guy try to get Naruto.

Mercenary Nin
Guys, it is my understanding that Deidara was never portrayed as a Mercenary Nin in Naruto.

So I am going to go ahead and delete that line item if I can. Rdnaruto (talk) 20:02, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, your understanding is not correct. He worked as a mercenary after he left the village. His job was to blow buildings and people up. Then Akatsuki came around and took him in. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:05, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Oh okay, I didn't catch that one. I guess I didn't get to that episode yet. Rdnaruto (talk) 20:09, March 20, 2015 (UTC) Rdnaruto (talk) 20:13, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

I believe you can find references to it in Deidara's flashback about fighting Itachi during his fight with Sasuke... Man that was confusing to say. Anyway, Chapter 359, I can't tell you the exact page, my source has odd etra pages, but it's the flashback, so you'll know it when you see it. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 20:17, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox error
The infobox contains two copies of C1 and I would like to just make this aware as I can not edit it myself. Hopefully someone with more authority can change it. I believe that the same thing occurred in the Explosive Release jutsu page. --BecquerelGeiger (talk) 05:27, March 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a bug that's on a few articles. They normally fix themselves. Munchvtec (talk) 05:48, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Student of Onoki
I thought we'd settled this years ago. Those editorial comments at the beginning and ending of the chapters are removed in the volume releases, and they've always been of dubious canonicity. It's one of those comments that refers to Deidara as Onoki's student; however, it is absent in Volume 54.

If there's some other instance of Deidara being called Onoki's student, then cite that. If not, then remove it. Dragonus Nesha (talk) 15:39, October 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm only aware of that being the case with covers, can't think of other instances of information like that elsewhere. I'm unable to check right now (not with the scans on computer with me, won't be for some days), but Deidara and Onoki's entries in the Jin no Sho are right next to each other, not to mention there's always a chance something like that is mentioned in those shinobi knowledge records sprinkled through the book. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:32, October 5, 2017 (UTC)