Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-34115-20150626063702/@comment-1207741-20150627004735

Minamoto15 wrote: This is why I'll respond to you Snapper, by saying that you're slightly misrepresenting my position. I never once said that the word was indisputably a proper noun because as I've said more than enough times, the word by itself is in no way a proper noun. However, in the context of what we're talking about, it's part of the name. Most nouns can become proper depending on how it's used. That's the case here. I don't mean to imply that you think "clan" is always capitalized regardless of context; I'm sorry if that's the impression I gave. When I say you regard "clan" as indisputably proper, I mean only when it's part of the formula "[family name] [group designation]". So, following your statement, you believe it should be "Uzumaki C lan" in the same way you believe it should be "Kennedy F amily."

Minamoto15 wrote: In fact, you just admitted that the sentence: "Naruto is from a clan called the Uzuamki Clan" is technically accurate. How awkward it may seem to you shouldn't matter. I don't quite follow how you're using that sentence as evidence in favor.

I really think we're over-complicating what should be the only question: is a clan what they're called or is a clan what they are.