Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-1872728-20170911101125/@comment-27924662-20170916202602

Mr. Grave wrote: @Namikazenaruto9

Not really. We know that the only damage that Hashirama's healing can't repair is lost limbs. There is no proof that he won't be able to shrug off a kunai to the brain. And when has a kunai defeated an important character anyway?

And I get what you're saying regarding Jiraiya and Kabuto, but in terms of the battle's length Hashirama can maintain Sage Mode just as long. We've already seen him activate it almost seamlessly when against Madara which implies he can accumulate NE pretty fast. And in Jiraiya's case, his Sage Mode fails the minute Fukasaku and Shima are knocked off his shoulders.

Edo Tensei exerts control over the brain. Genjutsu, no matter how it's taken, assaults the brain. Obviously, if you can break edo tensei, no matter how, then you can also break genjutsu. It makes sense really - how did Koto break Itachi out of Kabuto's control? And sure, while Orochimaru used Senju cells to control Hashirama, he was still surprised that he broke through it which means that was not supposed to happen. Plus, Tobirama's a Senju and if Naruto genetics have any semblance to real life, he should have broken through it too.

I don't think anyone who's broken Edo Tensei is stronger than Hashirama, no. Mainly because we knew as soon as Sasori was revived that Kabuto's Edo Tensei was fairly unreliable. No amount of healing guarantees safety against Brain or Spinal injury. think about it. Plus we don't know how Hashi's healing actually works. I mean would it still heal if brain is damaged or so on? You are making contradictory statement wrt Edo tensei. You claim that Hashirama should be able to resist genjutsu because he could resist Edo tensei. Yet when other characters could resist it you said that they can't break genjutsu. I mean that doesn't make sense, it's clear their is common ground i.e. breaking Edo Tensei. the Event is escaping-breaking out of that jutsu. Now Hashirama had clear advantage over others(he was brought back in his clone body, his cells were used to control the jutsu, their is no controlling tag hindering him) and he breaks the jutsu. Others break out of the jutsu despite not having ounce of that advantage, as far as I can see you are having a bias because Hashirama is strong. the feat is not noteworthy and it doesn't imply hashirama can break genjutsu simply because if that was the case Naruto would have broken through any genjutsu with sheer will power. I am not sure but Hashirama can't fight with SM throughout the fight, Jiraiya and Kabuto can also might I add one of them still remaining implies that Jiraiya still in SM. And their sum of chakra could be comparable to Hashirama's chakra.