Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37960523-20191227052712/@comment-34656247-20200101045223

UltimaDude wrote: Yet Itachi didn't catch Jiraiya in a genjutsu like he usually does with people who made eye contact with him,. thus rendering your entire argument moot. Ummm what? he has to like have the intention to use genjutsu then, clearly he didn't even attempt it. So no thus rendering your entire argument moot. This is so simple...

Jiraiya won't carelessly look at Itachi's gaze considering that he has the toad elders to cover other options of engagement. All he had was Naruto at that time, yet he still looked. Thus rendering your entire argument moot

None of the characters you've listed were caught in genjutsu, save for a few, were caught in a genjutsu. Also, looking at someone's general direction =/= eye contact. Even if Jiraiya was caught in a genjutsu, the toad elders can easily bail him out of it. Itachi's only chance here is Tsukuyomi and/or Amaterasu. never said that in the first place. When Jiraiya is restricted by genjutsu it's not like Itachi would just stand around and wait till he gets released, because then what's the point in using it in the first place?, in the case of Deidara, he was tricked in using his own atk against himself, the same could be done here or simple speed blitz is enough/ shurikenjutsu to obstruct the frogs or something... It's not overestimating if it's backed by facts.