Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3965545-20150831031332/@comment-26636534-20160214100145

Here we go... QuakingStar wrote: So who am I biased for?? List it. Because I read manga, databooks and other material before I make my decisions and arguments. You all just use DBZ logic "oh so and so has one cool tech and came later in the series, so that person MUST be stronger right??" no, Super Buu is confirmed stronger than Kid Buu for just one example there. Same applies to Nagato and Obito here. For someone accusing others of using DBZ logic, you seem to be the only one using it. Nagato was the Third Six Paths, as a crippled Edo he was Kabuto's second strongest Edo behind an unnaturally enchanced Madara Edo. It took Edo Itachi, Bee, and KCM Naruto to simply seal him while he still had bad legs. Obito was only barely beating Kakashi 1v1 and he easily got whooped by Minato in the past. Nagato was a semi-six Paths(since he never became the jinchuriki of the juubi), while Obito became the real Six Paths and the second Jinchuriki of the Juubi. The entire 1v1 of Kakashi and Obito was planned by Obito to remove the curse tag on his heart, so you can't really use that. Also, when Obito fought Minato he was 14(far from his prime), a year older than Naruto in part 1, and was still able to keep up with Minato, kill multiple ANBU, extract and control Kurama. So what is your point here? WHERE is you all's logic?? The only explanation for you Obito supporters is bias and favoritism. Obito does not have access to the demonic statue and neither does Nagato, therefor they both do not have access to the TB's, therefor Obito cannot anchor the TB's back in the Edo Six Paths. No, I have listed my logic in my previous posts. A bit of advise, the more you accuse people of bias and favoritism, the more you sound of doing the exact same thing. Nagatos Paths are linked to the Gedo Mazo, he got the black rods in his back from the statue and didn't manifest it himself, so if Nagato is allowed to use his SPoP, then Obito must also be allowed to use his SPoP(with jinchuriki abilites). Obito's only hope is Kamui, which we already pointed out will not work against a master sensor like Nagato who will pinpoint him immediately as shown on the 4th war you can sense the chakra before they even open the Kamui portal, as even KAKASHI and SASUKE did.> when Madara was coming back with both of his Rinnegan. Actually, you have assumed that Kamui won't work on Nagato, because of his sensory abilities. With Kamui the presence of chakra is completely gone when warped as reference by Karin. Also when Obito tried to blindside Naruto late in the ten-tails revival arc, Naruto could not sense Obito when he warped to attack, and only through Kakashi's intervention that he managed to dodge. Kakashi sensing Kamui can be explained by his left MS also having access to Kamui. Now, how is Nagato going to sense an attack that erases chakra? Also, As Yamato and Kakashi explained to Naruto, Yin and Yang release count each as chakra natures and they said they didn't have time to explain to Naruto what or how they work, therefor Jiraiya said at age 10 Nagato mastered all natures. Therefor he has Yin, Yang and Yin/Yang at his disposal. No, Jiraiya said that Nagato mastered all mainstream elemental nature techniques by 10, meaning he can use all five of the elements. The yin/yang release is just an assumption, Jiraiya never said that he learned yin/yang by age 10.

I suggest we keep this discussion civil and try and look at this fight from start to finish from both sides.