User talk:Simant

Re: Team Infobox
If you can do it in a way that doesn't cause existing queries to become a complex mess (or at least not any messier). Otherwise it's better to use another property. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 12, 2010 @ 08:05 (UTC)


 * I was wondering, is it possible to somehow make a distinction between ad hoc, single-mission teams like the Sasuke Retrieval Team and more established teams like the genin teams? --ShounenSuki (talk 17:40, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was thinking of a separate property row called team type, or something. --ShounenSuki (talk 18:18, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a bit of a problem, actually. the team status property shouldn't be there. It's the same as using current or former, which we've been trying to get rid off as well. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * It might be a bit superfluous in terms of information, but I would personally like to be able to sort the teams on team type. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:13, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't really thought about the exact terms yet. It will really depend on what exactly is considered a team, as opposed to a partnership or an organisation.
 * I could see values for genin team (e.g. Team Kakashi) and ad hoc teams (e.g. the Sasuke Retrieval Team), perhaps criminal gangs (e.g. the Magaki group) and specialised teams (e.g. Twelve Guardian Ninja and the various teams of the Nijū Shōtai). --ShounenSuki (talk 22:20, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

2 Things

 * 1) Might want to think about another archive. This is starting to get long.
 * 2) Color for the infoboxes. /shrug think they are stable enough to handle it? I dunno they are all grey and it seems kinda boring >.>. Like Green for Konoha, Beige for Suna, Purple for Oto, ect, ect.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 17:40, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I would say they people like him would have the color of their most recent affiliation. For example, Orochimaru would be purple, for Sound, while Sasuke would be...well...I think he would be gray for straight missing-nin...All members of Akatsuki would have Red...ect...ect...--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:56, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it would be more logical to use their main affiliation; the village of which they have the symbol in their databook profile. Otogakure for Orochimaru, Konohagakure for Madara and Sasuke, Kirigakure for Suigetsu, etcetera. --ShounenSuki (talk 13:46, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * That make sense...But for some reason seeing Sasuke's affiliation be green for Konoha just seems...stupid. For some reason I have less of an issue with Madara's (though I still would like some sort of red or red/black for Akatsuki) being green...--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:07, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Affiliation is really that village that a character is most put into connection with. Sasuke is still thought off as a Konoha-nin, just like Madara is. I wouldn't find it odd at all to see him with a Konoha infobox. --ShounenSuki (talk 18:24, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * @Simant Understood. Don't worry about it if it's a problem. I'll figure something out once everything is stable and what not.
 * @ShounenSuki: It's more or less my strong anti-Sasuke sentiment. The fact that I can see the series true villain with the Konoha symbol, but not Sasuke is really because I see him as an asshat. >.>--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:35, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Episode - video links
Screw Crunchyroll >.> (Horribly biased. Used to be a user of Crunchyroll before they dumped all the anime and made ya have to pay.) All the episodes (official translations mind you) should be on Hulu. Though that may also cause problems (I think Dantman said something about it being regional or something) but I do know its free.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:30, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Concepts
I'm not sure about that concepts page, the output looks messed up, but it does seam to match up with the defaultsorts. I guess SMW didn't implement that, sorted by defaultsort, but used the first character of page title instead of the first character of defaultsort for the header. As for the job queue, if it looks like something is being skipped for a long period of time the SMWAdmin special page contains a method of forcing the smw's data to be rebuilt. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jun 8, 2010 @ 04:15 (UTC)
 * It's done using the job queue. Wikia doesn't have the per-page job queue enabled, so you just wait till the script runs them. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jun 21, 2010 @ 05:39 (UTC) 05:39, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Talkpages
Sorry, but how so? It seems more convenient for everyone than repeating entire arguments. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 02:14, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * You mean when I make an argument and give a redirect to another talk page that has more information on the topic? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 05:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I put a link to Jiraiya's talk page in, because a comment I made was related to another ongoing conversation there which could have helped. I think the confusion might be from a spelling error I had origionally, which I noticed and corrected later. Is that what you mean? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 05:04, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Chapters
What, summarizing what happens in the manga chapters in the make? Sure, There might be loads of chapters, but there isn't a lot that happens in a single chapter. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

What's the problem
come on. That image comes directly from the manga you can check yourself if you dont believe me http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/89152425/9 good luck DevilN (talk) 21:30, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

That why i dont get it. Image policy say that you must use authentic images and i use them and you delete them DevilN (talk) 21:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wow!
A lot of Rasengan variants, but quite honestly, I'm not annoyed at all, nor I should be. I'm fine with a few or a lot of variations of most, if not, all techniques/jutsu, no matter what opinion people may have otherwise. Dekoshu talk contrib 23:50, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Protect
Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:32, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Block
Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I warned him. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 08:54, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

He seams to have taken the hint. I will watch him for a while. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:49, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

I gave him a ultimatum. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Images
(Sigh) Was it the quality this time? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 07:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 22:31, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Episodes
It gives episode-specific info, which is no longer present (appears → debuts). It also gives some props to unnamed characters. I'm neutral on the subject beyond it not being a list. ~SnapperTo 04:16, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Could I convince you to switch the various infoboxes to listing episode/chapter numbers instead of episode/chapter names? Numbers are easier to eyeball. ~SnapperTo 20:53, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * All please. Universally saves needing to click links to see what number the episode or chapter is. ~SnapperTo 21:45, June 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Episode numbers for the chapter infobox would be cool. Have I told you you're a Prunus persica recently? ~SnapperTo 02:32, June 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Juicy? I thought peaches were bitter? ~SnapperTo 04:28, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

There is something wrong with the Uzumaki clan infobox. It's still listing the Senju Clan Ancestor as a member, even though I removed that from his infobox, and it's not listing Naruto, Kushina and Mito, despite it being in their infoboxes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:03, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're showing with the clan written with a capital C, but I believe that's only a temporary fix. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:39, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

There seems to be a bug with relationship/parents in Infobox:Motoi's father. Motoi is listed twice, even though he's not added to the relationship field in that infobox, and the "manga only" tag appears as a link instead of an annotation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:07, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

The RDF feed on the bottom of articles isn't recognizing the Uzushiogakure value. The link for characters loyal to it in its page also returns with 0 characters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:39, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

New icon addition?
You think it's worth adding ShounenSuki's genin, chūnin and jōnin svgs into infoboxes like it's done with kekkei genkai, clans and chakra natures? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Man with the Truth
Something's wrong with the debuting character and jutsu fields. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:28, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Greetings
Motoi debuts twice. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:28, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Gender
Nice. You think it would be a good idea for the gender svgs to have different colors? Like blue for males and red for females? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:18, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * It would simple be uploading new versions of the same files. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:08, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Debut
Characters which debuted in artbooks, such as tailed beasts 4 to 7, are being listed as debuting in chapter/volume articles. Speaking of which, should we have articles on the databooks/artbooks/whatever other books? Root appears as a debuting character in manga chapter and volume. Hydration Technique doesn't debut in its volume page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:35, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * For some reason, some jutsu are still not showing up in the volume page. Hydration Technique is still in this. In volume 38, Karin and Suigetsu don't appear in character debut. Some volume one debuting jutsu don't appear neither in chapter nor volume page, like Sexy Technique and Harem Technique. Compare chapter/volume with anime equivalent. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:18, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tsukino
She has a quadrupled jutsu in her infobox, kinda similar to the steam based ninjutsu issue we had with Han. Dunno if it's the same problem. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:47, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Shippūden character debut
The "Shippūden" that appears in the character infobox has no macron. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:29, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Next and previous episode
An Unrivaled Match: Hokage Battle Royale! and Forbidden Secret Technique: Reaper Death Seal! don't show up in each other's infoboxes as previous and next episodes. Don't know if it happens in other episodes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:51, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just checked a few things. A page for episode 72 doesn't exist. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:54, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, it exists, but for some reason it doesn't show up in other places. Jutsu which debut in that episode have no links in their pages, the episode doesn't show up at List of Episodes, and it shows up as a dead-end page, despite having links to other articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yin and Yang
Listing Yin and Yang as a nature puts the icon for Yin. I'm not sure if we're going to have individual articles for Yin, Yang, or Yin-Yang, so it's something you should probably wait for now. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Dotō Kazahana
He's a video game and a movie character, but none of this movie jutsu appears in the infobox. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:56, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Debut II
In Sasuke vs. Danzō...!!, Demonic Statue of the Outer Path is listed as a debuting character, also showing up in Resolve as the Hokage...!! (chapter 474), despite the statue having the correct data debut data in its infobox (Siblings...!!, chapter 254, volume 29). Something is off with the 220 chapter difference handling from classic to Shippūden. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:22, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just checked the following chapter, same thing happens to some other characters, Third Kazekage and Monzaemon Chikamatsu are also listed as debuting in volume 52. This likely happens with some other characters as well. Not sure where Ōnoki debuts, but he's not showing up in chapter and volume he first appears. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:24, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Character classifications
I know there was a change recently on character classifications. That made "tailed beast" be a non-recognized value, and correcting it to the plural, which is an accepted value makes the jinchūriki annotation cease working. S-class also seems not to work anymore, as seen in Akatsuki member infoboxes. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:58, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know you fixed this, but a couple Akatsuki members need to have their infoboxes updated from S-class to S rank by a sysop, due to their infoboxes being protected (Deidara because of the dead/alive/resurrected/undead issue and Madara because people can't wait to put Rinnegan in his kekkei genkai list). Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:42, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

How come?
You are the person that has the most edits so far. How come you don't have sysop or rollback feature? I can't find you there. Sorry if i disturbed you. I am just a little curious.--Ttogafer (talk) 18:13, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Have the privileges been offered to you? --Ttogafer (talk) 19:13, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Fox fire stream
stop taking away the bullet thing okay its true stop

About the blank pages.
Sorry about that. I'm having a little trouble making an infobox. I keep screwing up and don't know how to fix what I did to ones already made. My apologies. (Hawkeye2701)

My Image
Please Tell Me Why You Removed My Image From The Page: The Two Students Please Tell Me So I May Learn From My Mistakes, Thank You Desai1234 (talk) 02:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Properties
Smw rebuilding is at Special:SMWAdmin. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jul 25, 2010 @ 00:22 (UTC) 00:22, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought you had permissions for that... I'll start one up. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jul 25, 2010 @ 03:40 (UTC) 03:40, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

The whiskers are related to the Kyuubi!

 * Every bijuu gives the jinchuuriki certain features: Gaara's Shukaku gave him the "no eyebrows", "lack of sleep" and "the black coating around the eyes. Naruto's Kyuubi gives him whiskers based on It being a fox and having whiskers. What kind of question is that to ask: "How do you know the whiskers are related to the Kyuubi?" Everybody knows that it is! Ask any Naruto fan...do you even read or watch the series?
 * So what you're saying is that, if Kushina wasn't a jinchuuriki, Naruto would've still had whiskers? Impossible! It's not kekkai genkai.NarutoTheOtaku (talk) 13:19, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * So how do you explain when Naruto taps into the Kyuubi's chakra and his whiskers thicken. If it's just a few scratches, then why does the Kyuubi's chakra affect it? Furthermore, "a few scratches" would be healed in no time thanks to the Kyuubi.NarutoTheOtaku (talk) 13:40, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever, you have your opinions, I have mine. Can you just leave my trivia alone? It doesn't hurt anybody.NarutoTheOtaku (talk) 13:47, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Talkpage
I dunno why, I just thought if there were people reading it wouldn't make sense. Sorry I won't do it on anybodys Talk Page again. I will only do it on mine. Desai1234 (talk) 05:35, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Confused
plz simant..can i ask u that why are u deleting my pic Hinata 3-4??that pic is cute though.plz answer me..may b i can understand20:53, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique
Choose the best picture and put it in the article: File:-Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands-.PNG, File:--Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands--.PNG, File:---Kakuan Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands---.png--Donatelo (talk) 21:37, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Should I be saving these images for any reason? ~SnapperTo 18:12, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Section Transclusion
I've had staff enable the lsth/section-h portion of lst and fixed the bugs inside the template. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Aug 6, 2010 @ 21:42 (UTC) 21:42, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mailing Problem
Hey, Simant, I don't reall know how really approach you this way...But, I kinda have a small problem with my mailing from this Narutpedia. I'm not getting mail saying that a page updates. Not a single one!

I don't understand at all. I come here everyday, and I'm still getting mail from my other wikis. Do you know what's going on?-- Ninja Sheik  20:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

:/
Talk:List_of_Volumes. ~SnapperTo 22:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I remember that's happened before. For whenever AnimeBot kicks in again, this fixed it for me. ~SnapperTo 18:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Exploding Tag
I consider Exploding Tags and paper bombs a ninja tool not a jutsu. ---TwinDragons TwinRisingDragons (talk) 23:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Templates
Thoughts: ~SnapperTo 18:41, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm always surprised that IPs can find these templates in the first place, especially when they seem to be trying to edit one of the articles the template is used on.
 * 2) There are a lot of unused templates lying around.
 * 3) I need to look into faster ways to bulk-do things.
 * 4) I need to stop saying I will look into things and actually do things I say I will look into.
 * 5) "Space" rhymes with "mace".

Itachi may have planned to die by Sasuke's hands, but at several points he had been surprised by his brother
Case in point-Sasuke breaking his Tsukuyomi as well as Kirin. Itachi blatantly said that if he didn't use Susanoo he'd have died. And I doubt he planned for his thigh being injured so early on in the battle. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 06:25, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * If he didn't plan to use Susanoo, how to you think he intended to seal Orochimaru? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:04, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * He never expected to use it. He quite clearly said he was forced to do so due to Sasuke's Kirin. He would have died instantly if he didn't use it. He is not omniscient or all knowing.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 18:23, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * He still planned to remove Orochimaru from Sasuke. And you seem to be forgetting that Itachi staged the fight, he intended to die and all. How do you think Itachi would give an end to Orochimaru if it wasn't through sealing him? He might not have planned to use Susanoo for defense, but he certainly would have used it to seal Orochimaru. The endgame is the same, despite the twists. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:32, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Jawb
I just realized it's only been a week since you were called upon to help with constructing an infobox. I promise this sort of oversight will not happen again.

One of the more glaring absences for this wiki, I feel, is an infobox for video games. I believe I have something functional as far as the infobox is concerned (though it occurs to me I forgot about a series parameter). It's a way of inputting playable characters that eludes me. Could you construct some sort of semantic means of listing what games a character is playable in? I think it would be more convenient than listing things as a bullet point in the trivia and provides a convenient solution for what is abuse of the  parameter. Maybe even forms that they are playable in or whether or not the character is only indirectly "playable" (as in support-only). These last two are optional if they are too complicated.

Anyway, when you have time. ~SnapperTo 21:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was actually thinking of putting under an Other media header and being done with it as far as display is concerned; the infobox has enough lists. A separate, non-infobox template (a la  ) was similarly as complex as I saw semantic-ing it being. The output would be the same bulleted list that's already in use in the various video games articles, but it would slap everything with a Playable:: too.
 * Completely removing the  would be counterproductive since there are characters that appear in no other media but that are not playable either. This idea is mainly to reinforce that, like movie and OVA, these debut parameters are only for character exclusive to that particular media (which, conceivably, could all be combined into the same parameter).
 * Depending on how ludicrous the suggestions, it's something to consider when you find yourself with free time. ~SnapperTo 03:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * All of the systems can be see at List of video games. Given the number of options, a checkbox might not be the best route. Also, the form doesn't have a place for release dates. On series, Clash of Ninja and Ninja Taisen are fundamentally the same. ~SnapperTo 03:00, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does the playable character list need to be in the infobox? Can't it be like where it's under its own heading? ~SnapperTo 02:10, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Browsing by loyalty is only returning characters with more than one loyalty. ~SnapperTo 05:17, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by +#. ~SnapperTo 17:45, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * You mean to assist with navigation? If so, might it be simpler to just look for the game with the most recent, prior release? Or, for those games that do not have enough installments to be a "series", just have a  parameter? If neither is practical, then I suppose a checkbox would be necessary. ~SnapperTo 17:56, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thinking about it, I really think the second suggestion (a  parameter) would be easier on the collective sanity. In addition to the three or four series that are only a couple installments long, the multi-component series cannot be sorted by just numbers. In the case of Naruto: Clash of Ninja (series), there are two "continuities":
 * Japan: Naruto: Clash of Ninja, Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2, Naruto: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! 3, Naruto: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! 4, Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! EX, Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! EX 2, Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! EX 3, Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! Special
 * US: Naruto: Clash of Ninja, Naruto: Clash of Ninja 2, Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution, Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2, Naruto Shippūden: Clash of Ninja Revolution 3
 * ~SnapperTo 18:05, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Survey look
The link is inside Oasis, I'm waiting for when Oasis is made default so we can get some reasonable reader response based on a skin they can actually see. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 11, 2010 @ 03:21 (UTC) 03:21, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lost Password
I have an active account here, but I lost the password. What should I do?

Oh thank god
Thanks. Can you ask them to block unregistered editing for a while. Not the best choice, but I don't want to deal with this again. Ever.--TheUltimate3~The User King~ 15:55, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks.(I've already thought that i would have to check all of them) By the way I've never seen such a vandal before.--Ttogafer (talk) 16:18, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Spam
I've been trying and failing to contact someone, but am having no luck with IRC. Can you/have you tried? ~SnapperTo 16:32, October 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I figured that's why everyone else stopped. Now I just need to figure out what other edits were made since 10 hours ago. ~SnapperTo 17:02, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re: TimeLine
the time line certainly needs a lot of work, still. It still lacks a lot of references and the more recent events are rather unwieldy at the moment. Unfortunately I kind of lost my drive to maintain the time line, causing others to take over for me in a somewhat less thorough way. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:10, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with that. The main reason I created that page was so it could one day be used as an actual article, any way. —ShounenSuki (talk 14:17, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox for my wiki, need help in making one
Hello Simant, I need help in making a clean, easy-to-use Infobox. Seeing as Wikia has terribe infoboxes (that I'm currently using until I find or [learn how to] make another one), I was thinking: Do you think you can make me an easy-to-use and clean infobox for my wiki? I'm terrible when it comes to making one; since I only copy and paste and change the parameters to what I want them. But lately, I have started to have a huge dislike for the Wikia templates. So, I went to my talkpage and I saw that you that you would make a template for me, if needed. So do you think you can make a template for me? Thanks. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 15:42, October 16, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * Fair enough. Thanks anyways. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 16:50, October 16, 2010 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi

Re: Unordered lists
Sannse's answer was "that's in the content area Dantman? if so, yes (although you should note that that change was in response to complaints of the font choice being hard to read and so causing headaches)" ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 18, 2010 @ 05:06 (UTC) 05:06, October 18, 2010 (UTC)