Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-6769189-20180922100022

CombatIQmatters wrote:

And why would he not use the bijuu chakra if he has it? Naruto doesnt have their chakra post-war

CombatIQmatters wrote:

I know what madara said isn't exactly 1 to 1, but he referred to the coffin-seal and tomoe as a sign of ridoku sagehood. He had a sage transformation and naruto was in sage mode. What proof is there that the cloak comes from the bijuu and not ridoku senjutsu? Madara couldnt have identified the mark on his back because he hadnt seen his back. Madara hadnt ever experienced 6 Paths Senjutsu without the Bijuu so to him they were one and the same. Especially since Naruto was using SPSM before activating his cloak and Madara had no clue what was happening.

The proof is that Naruto only ever had that cloak while hosting an using all the Bijuu's chakra. The proof is that neither before nor after did Kurama Mode have those marks, even when Naruto used it in tandem with SPSM.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Naruto didn't even have the ten tails or gedo mazou inside of him yet he has the same symbols. This proves ridoku senjutsu provides the cloak. Juubi chakra inherently provides six paths senjutsu so I don't see how you can distinguish it. The symbols on his back represent the chakra of all the Tailed Beasts. If the symbols represent SPSM then Naruto would still have them while in Kurama Mode

CombatIQmatters wrote:

You are basically saying that naruto has SPSM two times over, hagoromo gave him a SPSM and then he has SPSM again because he has all the bijuu chakra, but if this was the case then his cloak as an adult should be exactly the same. Im saying that Hagoromo gave him the SPSM. The Bijuu chakra gave him the cloak.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Other users are claiming naruto still has all the bijuu chakra and yet his cloak doesn't reflect that. Whoever says this is wrong because like u said, his current cloak doesnt reflect the presence of all the Tailed Beasts chakra

CombatIQmatters wrote:

The problem with the Hagoromo argument is that again, in theory they could have learned it but they also could have simply taken a little juubi chakra. I don't see why not when they are capable of absorbing chakra. If not from the juubi itself but maybe from one of it's attacks and integrated it into their own mental and spiritual energy. If they dont know Senjutsu then they would have been turned to stone from the overwhelming amount of natural energy from the Juubi. The Juubi can also absorb chakra on contact so absorbtion through contact wouldnt work because as soon as it felt chakra leaving it would start absorbing it again and it was significantly stronger than than the twins. Also Hagoromo would have been the only one capable of absorbing chakra.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Furthermore, why would his cloak be mere "clothes"? Because he didnt die as host of the Juubi. Its not like he didnt have an almost identical cloak before becoming the Juubichuriki