User talk:ZeroSD

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Village Heads
Please mark village heads using classification, ninja rank is not the place for that. Hokage, and so on all belong in Classification. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 10:09 (UTC)

Seems like a rank to me- it's not just one village's title or anything, it's a level at which ninja may achieve the rank of. I don't see a purpose in removing it from the rank page. ZeroSD (talk) 10:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's not a ninja rank. Academy, Genin, Chunin, Special, Jonin, Kage. Those are the only ninja ranks there have ever been. ANBU is a separate set of ranks, Hokage and such are additional classifications for the heads of certain ninja village. Village Head is closer in purpose to Hokage than it is to Kage. Also remember you can be a Village Head without even being a ninja, how is that a ninja rank? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 10:21 (UTC)
 * Scratch that last statement. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 10:23 (UTC)

Hokage is a specific subdivision of kage, ninja village head is the rank of being leader of a ninja village. Hanzo, Pain, Orochimaru etc.. These ninja have a rank within their villages as much as anyone else, and that rank is neither kage nor jonin- it's leader.

People also complain when they get lumped in with Kage, it's there for a reason.ZeroSD (talk) 10:51, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Read over Village Head, it says nothing about Village Head being a rank, It's not listed under the Shinobi Organisational System. Village Head has never been stated to be a rank, a Village Head is a Shinobi who has a separate rank (or even no rank) and happens to be the leader of a village. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 18, 2009 @ 10:53 (UTC)

-a Village Head is a Shinobi who has a separate rank (or even no rank) and happens to be the leader of a village.- If someone is leader of a village, they hardly have no rank, do they? There are several cases where village leader is the only rank someone has, and one no more 'happens' to be leader of a village than one 'happens' to be a Kage.

Leader is a rank in itself. Some leaders are called Kage, and some aren't. It's useful for us to have a label for those who aren't and the village head page mentions it's the highest rank in a village, hence it should be on the page. ZeroSD (talk) 10:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The village head page does NOT mention it's the highest rank in a village, it says "the village head is the highest-ranking, and usually the most powerful, shinobi of a village [...]". It says the SHINOBI is the highest ranking ninja, not that Village Head is a rank. There is a thorough difference in grammar. The Village Head has an actual Ninja Rank such as Kage or whatnot, or none for villages that don't have ranks to give out. We have classification to label Village Heads already. I'm through discussing this, no user has backed you up, no source has stated village head is a rank, no information on this wiki states that village head is a rank. Decide it via consensus, take it to a talkpage and have other users chime in. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 18, 2009 @ 11:12 (UTC)