Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-43375713-20200820205644

i literlly gave him two databook that literally said raiakge speed literally equals minato  and two data book translation   lol even if you low ball ay  minato still isnt beating him. the fact it's backed up and not contradicted raiakge is faster than minato minato needed ftg to beat raiakge speed obviously minato without ftg   he's  most def not beating v2 ay max speed. MINATO HAS NOTHING HE HE'S MARGINALY FASTER DUE TO REACION but ay his way faster movement speed at best minato is probably marginally faster due to ftg and his superior reactions but raiakge v2 max speed his movement speed is faster than minato but has slighty less reactions than mianto

Except what you said does not agree with the manga and the databooks.

Again, Ch541, pg 8, 4th Raikage: "...We (Minato and Ay) fought many times. There was never a man that could surpass him (Minato)."

'''Ay admits inferiority. '''

Furthermore, I've proven from all sources that Minato is actually significantly faster than Ay. Manga: Ch542 shows Minato moving physically faster than Ay, and Ay not able to react to several of Minato's movements. Episode 282 of the anime shows Ch542 again to agree with me. And the Fourth Databook says : "Praised among all ninja as the greatest in god-like speed" and "A handsome man shining with natural-borne talent, like a thunderbolt time and space itself seem to stand still—." Which again supports me.

Minato is significantly faster than Ay.

Clone SM Naruto was able to redirect 3rd Raikages attack at his own abdomen with a regular rasengan. We have already established that Minato can do the same, tho I'd concede that the specific strategy is unlikely. However, Big ball rasengan doesn't have to only hit Ay's arm. Minato can direct a Big Ball Rasengan into Ay's knee, breaking his leg. Or Minato can direct a Big Ball Rasengan into Ay's neck, breaking it. Many options available.

Minato has all he needs to defeat Ay.

Please explain to me how you can not see these conclusions. And how your assumptions mean more than actual manga feats. what i said does agree only two people dodge ay and tbh i can say mianto dodged a slower raiakge since  v2 ay is where his  hair spikes up when he looks like a ssj2  and that's when his chakra rivals bijus in that state  when he uses lighting shroud for full speed vs third raiakge uses his lighting cloak for durabilty  but is also fast but not as fast as ay just how how is durable just not as durable as his father. But raiakge was using v1 back than and he must've had gotten stronger full speed this indicated raiakge gotten faster over the years that mianto died because naruto dodged ay without needing ftg vs minato   needed ftg to counter ay  nartuo is faster than mianto let alone  let alone raiakge  so that would mean naruto is physical faster minato   now the raiakge fight  naruto speed equals ay since naruto never combat v2 ay he dodged one punch when ay was outspeeding him in his v1 state v2 raiakge  is a different story it's will be asininie to say their speed is close to instant when it's not lol minato not beating v2 ay. V2 ay is on kcm level of speed and naruot said raiakge can keep up with me in bijumode so that means   any raiakge  especially 3rd and 4th  lighting chakra mode is on par with kyubi and they have above 8 tails durabilty raiakges are OP BUT 3RD USES HIS LIGHING CHAKRA MODE FOR TANKING THAT'S WHY HE'S DURABLE HE'S TO STRONG FOR HIS OWN BODY LOL IT'S A JOKE BUT HE HAS SPEED BUT NOT AS FAST AS AY BUT HE ISN'T REMOTELY SLOW HE BLITZ KCM 1 NARUTO MULTIPLES TIMES AND DODGED TWO OF HIS RASENSHURIKEN  SAME THNG APPLIES TO 4TH HE HAS DURABULTY JUST NOT AS GOOD AS HIS DAD BUT HIS SPEED MAKES UP FOR IT MINATO IS TRASH IT'S OBVIOUSLY SURE HE'S  A GREAT SHINOBI BUT HE'S HEAVENLY OVERRATED  HE CAN'T DAMAGE NEITHER RAIKAGES