Talk:Revolution

The Corpse
was that corpse which turned into a tree obito...or a white zetsu clone…--DARK ZER06 (talk) 17:23, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * White Zetsu clones. Obito's body fully crumbled into dust in Kaguya's main dimension.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 17:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Like Joa said, it was clearly a white zetsu clone. Munchvtec (talk) 17:26, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Raw's out
Any questions? • Seelentau 愛 議 14:17, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do Hagoromo's words imply the tailed beasts themselves are in Naruto, or just their chakra (which they can apparently project their consciousness to or something)?--BeyondRed (talk) 14:53, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * No idea. The raw is kinda broken, should've mentioned that, sorry. It seems that some of the pages overlap in one file, making it unable to read some pages (because they're covered by the page that would come next. Two pages in one file, so to speak). • Seelentau 愛 議 15:19, September 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then that ain't very useful :P--Elveonora (talk) 18:08, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

@Seel, do you have access now to a higher quality raw?--Elveonora (talk) 10:07, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, not yet. :/ • Seelentau 愛 議 11:05, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's cool, I'd just like the tailed beasts part clarified so we may finally put the "jinchuuriki of all tailed beasts" nonsense behind us.--Elveonora (talk) 11:30, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Check mangahead to see what the raw looks like. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:34, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Damn, why does the relevant text have to be cut? :P--Elveonora (talk) 11:40, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Exactly. What I'm interested in the most is Kokuo's words about the forest. I'm hoping he's meaning the Wet Bones Forest or so. Would be an interesting piece of information. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:50, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, I somehow didn't see that Hagoromo's words about the TB chakras was readable all the time. First he's saying Bijūtachi subete no chakura, meaning all the TB's chakras and later Bijū subete no chakura, meaning all the TB chakra or so. So, the TBs obviously aren't sealed in Naruto, but he has chakra of all of them (not the chakra they can knead) which holds their consciousness, similar to how Orochimaru used the juin. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * I see, so labeling him a jinchuuriki of anyone but Kurama is wrong--Elveonora (talk) 13:07, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:17, September 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess we are late with this, someone already corrected the infoboxes, thanks whoever did it :P But I suppose the articles themselves still may claim he is jinchuuriki of all of them, but Naruto's article is full of nonsense as is, especially his abilities section and I refuse to touch it. EDIT: I hope you will update us on the forest part too once you know, thanks in advance--Elveonora (talk) 13:30, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Well, in the new chapter, Sasuke says that Naruto is the Jinchuriki of all TB... so yeah, there we got our answer^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 09:45, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well isn't that prime. Are we going to go through all his bullshit again or leave it as it is now? Because quite frankly I'm too old for this.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 09:48, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * So every named member of the shinobi alliance is a jinchuuriki too?--Elveonora (talk) 10:15, September 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * @Elve. I always thought that the beasts in Naruto was just Chakra. This chapter made it clear that we're wrong. Sasuke pretty much gave us Bold Letters saying Naruto is their Jinchuuriki and have their Chakra. Isn't that enough?--MERCURIOUS (talk) 10:22, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * It isn't, because the way he received their chakra is the same as the way the shinobi alliance received Kurama's through Naruto, through chakra transfer, so by your logic they all are jinchuuriki.--Elveonora (talk) 10:25, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not my logic. It's Kishimoto's. Whatever the circumstances is and whatever the way Naruto received the TB Chakra, it doesn't matter. He was stated to be a Jinchuuriki and in Bold Letters. That means he is a Jinchuuriki of all nine. As for the alliance thing, I am pretty sure there isn't anything else you can say other that. Until someone in the series state that they are Jinchuurikis as well, then they aren't. Good enough?--MERCURIOUS (talk) 10:31, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

And Tobi is Madara, Rinnegan is a mutation, Sharingan has origins in Hyuga Clan etc. first:
 * we are talking about scanlation here, I'd at least wait for the raw
 * second, Sasuke knows jack shit about jinchuuriki, he didn't even know what a Tailed Beast was before Karin told him
 * third, yes, the implication is important, because if having chakra of a Tailed Beast alone makes you a jinchuuriki, then:
 * 1) there's no thing such as a pseudo-jinchuuriki, we delete that and list Kinkaku and Ginkaku as jinchuuriki
 * 2) we treat the alliance the same way, because there's no difference, Naruto bumped fists with them and that makes him their jinchuuriki you say, but alliance bumping fists with Naruto doesn't make them Kurama's jinchuuriki? Either all of them or neither--Elveonora (talk) 10:36, September 25, 2014 (UTC)