Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-26636534-20160225140706

@ShiShiHeiwa

1) I have shown that Amaterasu is not instantaneous, for one reason only, it has a charge up. That is my entire point about Amaterasu and I have given evidence above supporting this. If you want to say that the flame of Amaterasu is instantaneous, I can agree with you, but it doesn't change the fact that for Itachi to use it there is a charge up.

2)You have compared it, here is a quote from the previous thread: ShishiHeiwa wrote: @Ninja of War Amaterasu is pretty much instant, stated in the Raikage vs Sasuke fight by the blonde dude who said Amaterasu appears from the users line of sight yada yada, and even the wiki states basically the same thing,

3) What I said about the toad's speed was reposted from the previous thread. You still continue to accuse me of things I never stated, even though time and time again I have proved that I never stated such things, this leads me to believe that you are trying discredit me by telling lies, which is sad.

4) Here is further reference to Haku being countered by Lee and Guy, ch 522 pg 14.

5)Jiraiya reverse summoning the 10 dogs was anime only, but it still shows that he can summon two more giant toads.

6) Which questions of yours haven't I answered? (I might have missed something)

I find it pretty ironic to say that I have not answered your questions when you have stated that you deliberately ignored my questions, you also do not answer @Minato 87's questions. My questions are actually challenging your so called evidence with reason, but since you cannot/will not defend your claims, just accepting them wouldn't be right. Furthermore, you say I have not given legitimate reasons, despite the fact that I have given evidence in support of each of my points. Jiraiya can win this fight, if you don't believe this, you are seriously downplaying Jiraiya's intelligence and abilities.

I see Jiraiya putting his intel on Itachi to good use. Putting down a lot of smoke bombs to weaken the Sharingan's vision. Jiraiya can definitely use jutsu(lower level) on a bigger scale than Itachi can, which would allow him to control the battlefield and keep Itachi on the defensive. Though Itachi is fast, Jiraiya would take that into account. Itachi would only use his MS towards the end of the fight, as it would drain him much of his stamina and chakra. Jiraiya would be ready for Amaterasu, due to his prior knowledge either with a prepared sealing scroll and/or counter(fire bombs) to truly avoid it.

Susanoo would surprise Jiraiya, but I think he has a jutsu that can deal with it. Summoning:Food cart destroyer technique was able to hold down full sized Kurama, So it stands to reason it can do the same or better for Susanoo.