Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-30323490-20180821205616

KCM2 boost is not a huge boost compared with KCM1. A bigger boost yes, but not by a huge margin.And that doesn't matter, because i can just replace that instance with when Naruto dodged the 4th raikage at full speed. Minato dodged a more inexperienced raikage, but with hiraijin. So there you go. Obito never ever ever ever displayed such speed feat.

Also, Obito's rinnegan is borrowed. He doesn't get SP chakra. SP needs to be awakened, which is what Madara and Sasuke did. So Obito's physical stats do not get increased by the rinnegan. I'm pretty sure this ridiculous claim was debated in the past around here...

Obito popped out from Kakashi's earth wall and Kakashi expression itself was of surprised. Just because he knows about Kamui it doesn't mean he can't be caught off guard by it, which is what Obito did. The distance between the wall and Kakashi was very small. And the fact that Kakashi didn't have the sharingan activated weights in a lot. No, considering the circumstances, he shouldn't have been able to react to Obito, which is why he didn't.

Kakashi, Guy and Naruto fought side by side before Obito was exposed. Guy in base even kept up with Kamui Obito in 1 vs 1 in that fight. Go watch it if you don't believe me. Also Kakashi and Obito literally had a 2.5 minutes of 1 vs 1 in kamui dimension, and neither outpseed the other. And since you are claiming that Obito has such immense speed,he should have been able to easily outpace Kakashi, with no problem. He should have been able even to oneshot him when he fooled him with cloth dummy since you claim that Obito is as fast as KCM Naruto, who outpaced the raikage himself. Which obviously wasn't the case. Kakashi and Obito were equal in speed, and this was obvious. The proof is there.

I really don't know what elese to tell you really. This imaginary Obito speed that you are talking about is just that. imaginary. I don't even know how it started, but it's ridiculous.

I'm out.From my experience, i know that in this fandom you can't change people's minds even if the debated topic has an obvious answer, like in this case. I proved my point enough here.