Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150717132317/@comment-26005711-20150718113453

QuakingStar wrote: DB4 and manga confirmed strength order is Prime Hiruzen > EMS Madara = Tobirama(Madara says so as he disables edo tensei Tobirama plus DB4 backs it up) > MS Izuna(Tobirama killed Izuna.. so duh). Prime Hiruzen at best ties Hashirama. Minato in life could POSSIBLY barely tie Tobirama. OrganicDinosaur has the pages translated. Prime Hiruzen beats Minato. Kishi's facts. Minato (without Yin-half Kurama) is stronger than Prime Tobirama. Tobirama can only use Flying Thunder God Technique and Flying Thunder God: Slash, Minato can use Flying Thunder God Technique, Flying Thunder God level 1 and level 2, Flying Thunder God: Guiding Thunder, Spiralling Flash Super Round Dance Howl Style Three. Tobirama can use Water style, but Minato can use Rasengan and Sage mode: Rasengan. Minato can summon Toads. Minato's Flying Thunder God>Tobirama's Flying Thunder God Rasengan and Sage mode:Rasengan>Water style Toads and Minato's other techniques>Other Tobirama techniques Tobirama is only better in Taijutsu. Minato (withou Yin-half Kurama, Sage mode and Sage mode: Rasengan) would win in mid difficult fight.