User talk:Omnibender

Re: Block
Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:10, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:12, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

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Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:18, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I talked to them, i hope it helps. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:10, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:33, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

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Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:32, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Protect
Solved. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:14, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 15:16, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Where did you find them this time? I checked Manga Helpers. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:34, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Solved. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:18, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Protected. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:48, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE. Itachi
Due to his low stamina. Itachi has a 2.5, and in part I when he was relatively healthy, he used his MS three times that day (One Tsukuyomi for Kakashi, one Tsukuyomi for Sasuke, and one Amaterasu to escape from the Toad Mouth Bind) he was unable to maintain his Sharingan at the end. He did the same thing during his final battle with Sasuke, forcing a fourth MS usage with Susanoo, which killed him from chakra exhaustion and the strain on his body.--NaruHina fan (talk) 22:49, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Three MS jutsus in Part I made it so Itachi couldn't maintain his Sharingan. Not only that, during the Shoten Clone, with just 30% of Itachi's chakra, the Itachi clone couldn't perform not ONE MS technique. And again, 2.5 in stamina, not affected by illness (since Kimimaro had a 4.5 and was on his death bed). Itachi's low stamina only gives him three shots, and a fourth would kill him from chakra exhaustion. --NaruHina fan (talk) 22:59, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Editing
What is the requirement for someone to be able to edit an infobox?

--Fmakck (talk) 20:17, November 25, 2010 (UTC)Fmakck

Rant
Hey you destroyed my articel about hachimon tonko! I don't accept that!

And you also deleted my articel i added about Itachis dead!! DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO THAT! THAT WASN'T INCORRECT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NARUTO SO GET OUT!!!!!!!!

AND YOU ALSO COPIED MY ARTICEL ABOUT THE GUSTY NINJA EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MADE A ARTICEL ABOUT THAT EPISODE AND IT'S MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW YOU GET OUT OF NARUTOPEDIA AND WRITE ON BABYPEDIA WHERE SOMEONE WANTS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I KILL YOU WITH CHIDORI!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHIDORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just deleted the kakashi articel ha! Now all that info is just destroyed! And now I'm gonna do gthe same with Naruto! SEEE YYYAAAA!!

Tanishi Infobox
In Tanishi's page, it says he only appeared in the manga, but that is incorrect and since I can't change it, I was wondering if you could.

My article on the "Record of the Gusty Ninja Master and Student" episode
Hi, I understand why you might think my summary was in too much detail. However, previous episode summaries have contained just as much detail as mine and are greatly written and have not been downsized. They also contain "play-by-play", as you have defined it. The old article that you placed back does not even contain proper grammar or english and sounds like it was written by a 10 year old (which it would have been and I have no objection to 10 year olds contributing)). But, would you not wish for a more organized articles? Now, if you would rather have poorly written and vague articles, by all means change it. However, in this case, I believe you're wrong.

Record of the Gusty Ninja Master and Student
Thanks for that explanation. However, why wouldn't you want a more in depth explanation or at least more organized. Please, next time ask me to widdle it down, not replace what I had written with something that would be considered less then what a summary is grammatically and informationally. This is technically an encyclopedia. Wouldn't we want to provide as much information as we can for people who visit the site or at least well written information? I'm not trying to put anyone down, especially the person who wrote the original article. I just wished to clean it up and add more to it for the viewing pleasure of people who come by this site.

Its fine, I just don't appreciate it as a person when something is taken down with little explanation. But then again, I'm still trying to learn the rules of this site. Thanks for the explanation. Oh well, I'll be opening up a discussion shortly on the matter.

Gotcha. ObiTobi. (talk) 02:23, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Tatsuhiro Clan
7:13 OmegaRasengan - Contributions 00:00, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE: confining the jinchuriki arc
The number of characters involved in shinobi war is huge, it includes all the previous jinchurikis, former kages, famous shinobis, former akatsuki member, all the major characters in various joint shinobi forces platoon etc. My point being it'll require edit in almost 100 odd pages. Jaiswalsanket

RE:
oh ok thanks for letting me know--Rmt0225 (talk) 01:32, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Cat's Village
Nekomata has its own village? One of his ninja cats possessed a front protector --Leodix | My Talk | Contributions 03:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)



Grid/Chart Codes
I was considering adding charts to my theory page. May I use the chart codes you used in yours? --GoDai (talk) 09:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Orochimaru Mud Body
I don't know.--LeafShinobi (talk) 17:52, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth 01
Check this out~ http://mangastream.com/read/rock_lee/15083938/1.

So, do we make a page?-- Ninja Sheik  01:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

rock lee spingtime of youth 2 i think we can made a page about it like it was a game or movie with the episode list but we can't add the jutsus for exemple "rock lee springtime of youth is a spin off of the naruto series drawn by... the serie features... ecc ecc Nitram86 (talk) 22:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Clan ancestors
ohhhh wasn't aware of that it wasn't there for me so i thought it wasn't for everyone...thanks ^_^--Cerez365 (talk) 20:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I shall try that. maybe it'll help--Cerez365 (talk) 06:36, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Did you even check out the talk page at the arguments for deletion?
They don't hold any water. They don't even acknowledge the fact that the Tailed Beast Ball Rasengan was called a new technique at the end of the chapter. --NaruHina fan (talk) 23:49, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Second Fanbook reference
Page 116 of the Second Fanbook lists Danzō as the. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:37, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Mangekyō Sharingan
If you leave that Begin Summary thing, you can see it in the article. You can also see the references written out instead of being little links to the bottom of the page, where the references are supposed to be listed.ZPRN (talk) 15:38, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, alright. So do I just leave it and hope it fixes itself?ZPRN (talk) 20:48, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Volumes
I don't see any missing. The expand button is part of wikia's A/B testing. Just ignore it... S im A nt 02:50, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Chakra nature/kekkei genkai form
I don't see the point of using a template for chakra natures, the user/jutsu list would be too long to display aesthetically anyways. Kekkei genkai form, just haven't gotten around to. S im A nt 19:01, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ok for Living Corpse Reincarnation
I understand if you want to revert something, but it'd be politer to at least put in the summary the explanation for doing it rather than a sarcastic dismissal. References and similarities to other works, if close enough, are sometimes included even in wikis that focus on a single series. Like it wouldn't be improper to mention Spawn/Venom in a Rurouni Kenshin manga. The concept of evil reincarnating through spiritual possession would be interesting to analyze since it is an ongoing idea and we could study the philology behind the technique's conception. Ty (talk) 23:07, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Tatsushiro Clan
Fixed. Nice with some different message from you. ;) Jacce | Talk | Contributions 18:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Contributions not accepted :(
Greetings, i´ve noticed that my contributions to some pages weren´t taken and I would like to know why cause the contributions I made weren´t false but not more than a minor credit to the topic. Tell me what is the problem to fix it and if for any chance my contributions could be accepted, Thanks.

Would this be good for a Clan Page?(Kamizuru)
I saw the page before this and it lacked so much information.

RE: I'm sorry for not signing, and I will fix the mistakes I made. About the not signing part, I was in a hurry this morning....... Anyways, I keep trying to add the clan photo to the character box and it won't work. Can you help me out?Don't look at me!! Just talk...  20:38, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

preview
Well, then I understood. I know, I'm quite prone to make lots of edits even if I use the Preview mode (and it's something I usually do, to see if the link I place work), and that's my fault. However, I only reverted a section to its former state COMPLETELY with Kisame's page maybe a day or two ago, as I got discouraged by another edit (yet again my fault, but summoning 1.000 sharks sounds so much like a Summoning Technique O_o)and decided to leave it as other editors wrote it. --Aldarinor (talk) 15:21, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I did that? I don't recall it... Don't want to contradict him, but I truly don't remember doing that... Well, in any case, got it :) --Aldarinor (talk) 16:13, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Potentially Problematic
He did it because he loves screwing with us.

But seriously, 秘 was used twice in the script, both in relation to a technique. the first time was in the word and the second time in the word. the first instance should pose no problem at all, so I'm guessing you were referring to the second instance. Well, the technique it refers to has already been called a hijutsu several (read 496) chapters ago. I doubt that'll be problematic either. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:14, December 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * In this case, I really think it's a simple error on the spoiler supplier's part. 晶 and 昌 look a lot alike, are pronounced the same, and 昌 is somewhat more common than 晶. All imply a mistake. not to mention that 昌 means 'prosperous' or 'bright' and so wouldn't really make a lot of sense in the name. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:38, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Synopsis or Summary
I think it was a discussion not so long ago about the length of the chapter/episode pages and that they should only give a quick briefing about the chapter/episode in question. It's possible that Synopsis was changed to Summary to avoid some mistakes. For more info, you should ask Snapper2. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:18, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Rin's Status
Officially, Rin hasn't been considered in "Deceased" state since the plot didn't told us about her status after The Kakashi Chronicles.. I think it's safer to change her status to "presumed deceased"..

it's just an opinion.. Criticisms are much welcome..

Re: S
I don't think it matters that much beyond consistency. Both suggest a short description; they only differ on how short. I think the reason for the change around 510 is that is when other people started creating the chapter articles, not me. ~SnapperTo 19:33, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nagato's Technique
Hi you guys just forgot about one of nagato's techniques here is the link:

http://www.goodanime.net/naruto-shippuden-episode-172

at part 2 8:40 Nagato uses a Rinnegan Aur/Shield or i don't know. I'am a big naruto fan so i want to help to the page. This is it id you want to contact me my E-mail adress is: viktor.itachi@gmail.com

RE: Sasuke's image
Well I think that the pics need to be to where they look like now. --TheDarkUchiha189 (talk) 03:12, December 17, 2010 (UTC)TheDarkUchiha189

FU
It's not a Raw moron it's been cleaned so obvisiously some Japanese scanlation group scanned this. Which means its illigal to have words on this pic.

Re: Sound 4/5
I redirect a file page. S im A nt 20:48, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Ostrich techniques
Yes, I was going by sound. I know that there's a kanji for "strike" but that's what the ostrich said in the anime. Seelentau 愛議 23:53, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * What translations? I got the names from the subtitles/what the ostrich said and put the Hiragana for that name in wadoku (a German-Japanese dictionary). You can see the outcome of that in the jutsu-articles^^ So I know that the subtitles aren't 100% right everytime but this time I'm sure they are. Seelentau 愛議 22:08, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I use the translations of HorribleSubs, maybe you know them. I dunno how much they differ from the crunchyroll-subs... Seelentau 愛議 22:37, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Na, as far as I know I can't, since I'm from Germany^^ Seelentau 愛議 23:04, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Theory on the relative strength between advanced natures
Hmmm I had had moved away from this subject for a while, but this is indeed a much more logical way of stating one idea I had. But if you consider it, "Lava→Ice" definitely makes sense, but both do lose some and win some as you stated, as the four match-ups of the components, "Earth→Water," "Earth:Wind," "Fire←Water," and "Fire→Wind" mean that Lava loses some things before it completely dominates Ice. And therefore, it should go something like this: "Ice+(Fire+Lightning)=Water," "(Fire+Lightning)+Dust(assuming)=Fire," "Dust(assuming)+Storm=Wind," "Storm+Lava=Lightning," and "Lava+Ice=Earth," right?
 * The heat(Fire) of the Lava would melt the Ice into Water. Fire→Wind.
 * The now-melted Ice(Water) would cool the Lava by absorbing its heat(Fire). Water→Fire.
 * The now-cooled Lava(Earth) would absorb the remaining Water. Earth→Water.
 * All that remains is Earth, and neither of the original natured chakras, Lava or Ice, are in their original form.

And also, elements that line up across the center of the diagram File:Advanced Elemental Relationships Diagram 2.svg (at User: GoDai/GoDai Seishitsu Henka, Combinations, and Theories) are... "even" in some way. For example, Boil, Dust, and Lightning would align, meaning they are... either "opposites" or "neutral" against each other.

And by the way, what do you say of Lightning Illusion Flash of Lightning Pillar? It seemingly utilizes both Yin and Lightning chakra at the same time (but likely not a combination...?), which could possibly mean that every technique can have one of Fire, Wind, Lightning, Earth, or Water, as well as one of Yin or Yang. --GoDai (talk) 04:35, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see what you mean... kinda. So you mean
 * 1. (e.g. Dust→Storm) by 2:1, and therefore 2 weakensses and 2 strengths each nature.
 * 2. (e.g. Wood→Boil) by 2:0, and therefore 1 total weakness and 1 total strength each nature.
 * 3. (e.g. Wood←→Lava) by 1:1, and therefore 3 neutral each nature.

But I mean when the results for these conflicts. Dust vs. Storm would result in only the Wind aspect remaining (2:1), but Wood vs. Boil would result with Wood having both qualities intact (2:0).

Also, I'm seeing strange characteristics with Wood which constantly make no sense, and something tells me that Yamato didn't completely explain it or lied about a few points. It also seems related to Yang. --GoDai (talk) 00:47, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry I was in a hurry with that. Well currently my brain is... kind of simplified in thinking XP. I do get what you're saying, but it also seems the type of mechanics Kishimoto decides to use will decide how it really works, as it is difficult for me to imagine Wood overpowering Boil in a basic sense, although the nature mechanics you mentioned definitely make sense. Also, the different left and right hands thing was devised (by the symbolism of the body being assymetrical on its two halves) in case there were more than 10 possible advanced natures. I mean, there could be more than 10 if Kishi decides to throw in 4 kekkei genkai for the movie characters, and if all of those are elemental kekkei genkai.

Just to let you know, I've recently tried to adjust my way of thinking to basic scientific logic and more of a symbolic or generally obvious common sense, in order to think a little more like Kishi, or at least closer to him. I'm currently working on things such as figuring out whether the possible natures "溶遁; Dissolution Release" and "爆遁; Explosion Release" are truely chakra natures or not. I mean questions such as "Why would Kishi do/mention that in the first place?" come to mind. --GoDai (talk) 09:51, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: The 流 kanji
When does fall mean falling down or the season? When does date mean a calendar date or the more romantic option? the answer to such questions is practically always context. In the case of jutsu, if it seems to be flowing, use the flow definition. If not, use the style definition. Although I must say there are some examples where the school definition might seem more appropriate.

I would translate 土遁・土流波 as Earth Release: Earth Flow Wave, unless it's quite obvious the technique doesn't actually flow. However, mud wave would be in Japanese, so be careful not to correct something that doesn't need correcting.

The Mud Needles translation seems to have been more free, but the 'shin' part could mean —ShounenSuki (talk 19:16, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Kumo guys
Different characters should have different articles, especially when one uses a technique, and the other doesn't. I'm fine with splitting the taki kunoichi.--Deva 27 (talk) 23:40, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Since they all use the same techniques, I think it would be better to turn it into a team page.--Deva 27 (talk) 23:49, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Quick question, why does only one of the spectators get their own page, while the other doesn't? Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

What should his page title be, Unknown Kumo-nin is already taken. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

If I were to make a page called Bald-Headed Kumo-nin, then it would make sense to rename the other guy Brown-Haired Kumo-nin. Alright, thanks for the help. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Sorry to bother you again, but I am still new to the editing world, and I'm still not quite sure how to make an Infobox. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

All done and thanks again for all the help. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

merge or make separate
For Hiashi, there's already an Invasion of Konoha Arc and it's really scanty should i just edit that and add the episode 192 information or make a Konoha History Arc section? --Cerez365 (talk) 00:30, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Tenten wishes to fight Sakura
Ok since Tsunade is Tenten's idol could she be envious of Sakura and want to fight her to see what skills she inherited from Tsunade? Sammyfan98 (talk) 22:15, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

But she wants to fight Tsunade, not her students. You can't just assume she's envious. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Tenten's databook profiles list her as wishing to fight Temari and Sakura. Temari is a given, because she lost to her in the chūnin exam. About Sakura, being Tsunade's student, that could be a reason to why she wants to fight her, but since nothing other than the actual wish was ever manifested, we might never know why she wants to fight her. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:27, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Leaf Coiling Whirlwind
I don't know if there's a problem with my computer or not, but when I go on the Leaf Coiling Whirlwind page, all I see is the title unless I press the edit button. Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Re: Ten-Tails Eye
Sorry, I just had the image and thought it would look cool. Is there anyway I can help?

Thank you for the tip.--fourLOKOz (talk) 17:55, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Your Speculations Page
That's incredible! I'm definitely going to keep looking at that, and reading it more in-depth. Thanks for your insights to stuff like this!

Re: Land Mine Punch
Are you serious? It's pretty obvious why that technique is a ninjutsu also. It uses chakra and an advanced chakra nature to do an impossible feat which is the standard definition of ninjutsu in the Naruto universe. The Gentle Fist is a kekkei genkai fighting style so that is different. It uses hand to hand combat so yea it is taijutsu, but Land Mine Punch is also a ninjutsu. Its just like how Sasuke's Blaze Release techniques are ninjutsu and Pakura's Scorch Release. They are skills used by ninja that manipulate chakra to accomplish an impossible action that is abnormal among humans in the universe. Sakura and Tsunade's chakra strength is also a fighting style and only uses the human body with chakra enhanced strength so it is only taijutsu. Guy specializes in taijutsu so a technique like Daytime Tiger makes sense to only be taijutsu. Again it is only enhanced physical strength. It does not manipulate chakra like ninjutsu does. it is just opening 7 of the Eight Gates and packing air pressure into a punch. I hope that answers your questions. 00:17, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Called It! XD
Haha it seems I will be correct on Fire+Wind being a "hot wind"-type thing... although I didn't say it was Scorch before. Another surprising thing is that one of the names I guessed for Fire+Wind or Fire+Lightning was Scorch (However, the kanji being used is really uncommon). I must say Smoke was a great idea in the end though XP--GoDai (talk) 01:46, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess so. However, it is indeed interesting, as Kishi decided to create a nature that involved heat, but without a fire. As I assumed, Fire+Wind making a bigger fire is available without a kekkei genkai, so a unique ability would be instead "the Fire enhancing the Wind." However, the natures Ice and Scorch don't have much of the Wind nature in my opinion, as they don't really... cut anything. --GoDai (talk) 01:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know about that, but... Wind chakra is created by compressing it to make a thin blade. If the Wind nature is combined with another, it should be chakra of that other element but compressed, thin, and sharp, no? And Scorch displays neither cutting or cooling. It's just... balls of heat or hot air. In this case, it seems Kishi is only concerned with the literal natural effects of the element in question, rather than what the chaka nature was mentioned to do. --GoDai (talk) 02:13, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Raw Manga
I want to upload some covers for the manga pages, but I don't know where to find the raw manga. Do you know where I could find some? Fmakck - Talk - Contributions

Talk page link
Can you help me link User: GoDai, User talk: GoDai, User: GoDai/GoDai Seishitsu Henka, Combinations, and Theories, and User talk: GoDai/GoDai Seishitsu Henka, Combinations, and Theories together somehow? It's not really easily accessible. How did you link your theory pages together? --GoDai (talk) 01:45, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. I could've sworn I once saw something like "< User:Omnibender | User talk:Omnibender/Elemental recomposition table >" but I guess I saw wrong. Thanks anyway, I'll try to do something similar. --GoDai (talk) 01:59, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Infobox bug
I blame TOR and cache. S im A nt 19:13, December 28, 2010 (UTC)