Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-36697734-20180903083030

I beg to differ, honestly. My statement that he was a complete 'mess' was that compared to his class, he was severely immature, his chakra was in disarray, and his ultimate potential locked up inside him and I'm not just talking about the fox. He could have been Jonin level but he lacked fundamentals and Jiraiya focused on controlling the Kyuubi which led to lackluster development. When he returned, he was a good Chunin at best but he was nowhere near approaching Jonin level especially after Rasenshuriken was deemed unusable. A good benchamark for a Jonin would be initial Shippuden Sasuke. Naruto actually skipped that stage of being a shinobi after acquiring Sage Mode.