Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36006024-20180926134241/@comment-6769189-20180928123400

BlazeRelease wrote:

Come on, Kurama is a living beast of chakra, they were caught to be used as tools, Naruto just didn't wnat to make Kurama into a tool, rather into his friend, comrade too. Abusing someine and stealing their power doesnt make it the users own power. Thats not what they were created for. Again, Naruto needs Kurama to lend him his power. The power is not Naruto's. Naruto could never have that power without Kurama. If Kurama so chooses Naruto wouldnt be able to do those things.

BlazeRelease wrote:

Sasuke's EMS is taken from Itachi's MS. The one who made it into an EMS and uses with chakra is him. Even if it's predicated as Itachi's MS. It's presently Sasuke's eyes. This is like saying someone who is rich earned the money because they inherited it from a dead family member.

Itachi's eyes legit gave him a power boost. Sasuke didnt work for or earn the strength he recieved from Itachi's eyes.

BlazeRelease wrote:

Just like Zabuza's, Itachi, Orochimaru's and Kisame's swords, and Minato's Kunai, Summon user's summons, Hashi cell user's Hashi cells, and othet related things are also just different versions of tools, that depends on the user's capability. The swords/kunai dont give users power boosts. Their users do not suddenly receiev the skill/knowledge/chakra levels/or physical abilities of the former users. Those tools are only as good as the user. Case in piint, Ten Ten, a so called weapons specialist never actually won a fight with all her tools, but Zabuza who was dying and couldnt use his arms took out a buncha dudes on the bridge with one kunai.

Hashi cells are body mods and representative of the persons natryal potential. Summons are literally having another individual fighting on the users behalf and are not representative of the users strength.

BlazeRelease wrote:

It was just a matter of time too. Naruto was already faster than Hashi, and with mastery over the Nine Tails and his own jutsus and style he'll be able to take on Madara and Hashirama. Not sure what you mean by "faster" but again, this is Naruto relying on Kurama rather than using any sort of power he was born with or learned.

BlazeRelease wrote:

And Sasuke managed to stab Madara, and he still had alot to master from his EMS, like the PS, his own mastery with Amaterasu and other varioud jutsus and his style, and he'll also be able to take on Madara and Hashirama too. More like Madara let himself get stabbed to catch the blade. Madara at that point was tanking bijuu attacks and when he was in his weakened Edo Tensei form was countering KCM2 Naruto.

Without upgrades/mods/borrowed power Naruto and Sasuke wouldnt be able to compete with Hashirama. Hashirama didnt rely on power from beings stronger than him and he didnt need to modify his body to be as strong as he was. While Edo Tensei he was only weaker than Juubi jinchuriki.