Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20170610192426/@comment-27924662-20170616120905

UltimaDude wrote: Rewatch the fight. Orochimaru did not contain Naruto at all. Like I said, Orochimaru was getting punched around, his attacks were countered or rendered ineffective, and he was reaching his limits. So were naruto's attacks. Infact Orochimaru pinned naruto down with his sword. And two you missed other half of my reply. UltimaDude wrote: Naruto fighting the Three-Tails is filler. You are forgetting that Naruto also has Sage Mode and can create even bigger Rasenshurikens. How do Jiraiya and Orochimaru have a mobility advantage when Naruto is just as fast as Jiraiya and Sasuke is the fastest out of everyone? But it's a valid comparison. Jiraiya has Frog leaps if you are forgetting. Orochimaru has Slithering snake mode, the eight snake tech and what not.. UltimaDude wrote: Sasuke escaping Deidara's self-destruction didn't make any sense at all. Jiraiya's Hair technique isn't nearly as fast as Kirin Jiraiya' s hair tech has same reputation as that of kirin. That is they both can't be dodged and it's atleast as fast as frog kata(or even faster) with nearly infinite hits.