Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150502074955/@comment-28869806-20150527211059

He is stronger than Itachi, Tobirama, Jiraiya (Sage mode), EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke. He has SAGE AND BIJUU MODE!Madara with out Rinnegan can't beat Minato.

the only thing he has that can even damage susanoo is tailed beast bomb, and even then Madara has shown that tailed beast bombs are useless against perfect susanoo. Itachi and Sasuke have more than enough speed to dodge tailed beast bomb. and if the countless other people who have already told you this aren't enough, Minato has admitted his sage mode is borderline useless in a fight. Sasuke and Naruto are superior to Minato in regards to ninjutsu, Sasuke dwarfs Minato in genjutsu. and while Minato has a high chance of beating Jiraiya, that's only if he manages to avoid Jiraiya's attacks, because if he gets hit with one of Jiraiya's higher level techniques Minato's done for. EMS Madara was a match for sage mode Hashirama, who is many times stronger than Minato ever was.