Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25075055-20140410195636/@comment-1207741-20140419151535

Speysider wrote: Because, out of the 20+ rollback's on the wiki, at most 5 of them need the ability to close/delete/highlight threads/posts. The vast majority of rollbacks either don't care for using the forums, would not use the power to close / highlight / delete threads/posts responsibly, or simply don't use the wiki anymore. What reason is there to give out a permission to 20+ users when a very small number of people need it ? Why should permissions only be granted to people who "need" it? What aspect of civilized society falls apart if a people have something they do not use?

Speysider wrote: Plus, when you look at it, if you want to give someone rollback flags for reverting mainspace vandalism, you would unnecessarily grant them moderating powers in the forums that they either don't need, don't want or won't use responsibly. If they can't use their privileges responsibly, I should hope they aren't being made rollbackers. But if they're trustworthy in one namespace, they are logically trustworthy in other namespaces as well.

Speysider wrote: Because the sysops should not be pressured into moderating something they either don't want to use, or have no interest in moderating. I don't think any of the sysops are that proud, are they? I don't use the forums, yet I somehow found the energy to close (or remove? I'm not clear on the difference) two threads last night. Exhausting work, that. I should hope I'm not bothered in such a fashion in the future!

Speysider wrote: Out of all sysops, there's only 1-2 of them who are fully committed to moderating the forums: Ten Tailed Fox and UltimateSupreme. Most of the other sysops either don't have time to moderate the forums, don't have the interest to do so, or simply don't visit the wiki often enough for them to be counted as actually active in modding the forums. Oh, but Speysider, is there really need for more than those 1-2?

Speysider wrote: Do please explain how granting extra permissions to 20+ users or increasing the workload of the sysops needlessy is a good idea then. *anticipates evaluation of success*