Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31568508-20170323180643/@comment-27924662-20170326093216

Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: not really. when hiruzen was revived, he didn't seem to be on his prime because of his appearance, but he most certainly was. u can tell by the way he fought in the war to the way he fought against orochi, when alive. Hiruzen had chakra problems(lack of) which would be non existent in edo tensei since one has infinite refills as edo. Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: that means that if madara was revived as an old dude, he would be just as powerful as the edo madara we have seen. Seriously old doddering, Toothless madara would be stronger than the madara who raped The alliance. Even imagining the scenario makes me laugh. Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: and kabuto made quite a few special edo, if u look at the akatsuki members, and the edo jinchuriki. from what I could tell, the only thing he thought of/about madara, either came from zetsu (white), orochi, scrolls in konoha, maybe other edos, and tobi. did any of these ever meet madara in his prime? exactly. and when madara die, he already had mokuton and rinne. but this brings the question: why didn't he have them as an edo? how did he know that he didn't have them, since he himself was surprised to see it in action? how did kabuto do it? and some other things. Kabuto didn't use edo tensei on jinchuriki. Obito created them like how nagato created his pain jutsu using body corpse.Black-white zetsu know madara from his glory days especially given BZ was spying on all of the reincarnation. Databook puts obito as madara's mirror image in terms of prowess. So madara's skill wasn't unknown to all of them, plus Onoki too knew abt his strength (even though no completely), Plus we know this for fact Madara didn't had wood release/Hashirama's cells or Rinnegan in his prime. It's clear rinnegan madara is stronger than EMS Madara.