Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160405070243/@comment-28247797-20160504172748

@BakumatsuWarrior Thank you for clarifying. I just don't think he understands and is taking it way too literal or trying to make it universal.

@Thekillman I do agree that a group of less powerful people could beat Hashirama but their combined efforts together must surpass him, sadly that isn't the case for the five Kage. You're sadly mistaken in reference to the 5 Kage actually holding their ground against Madara. They didn't, not even close.

Madara was clearly toying around with them until the end, then even after that Madara still stomped without PS. We don't know what he did but prior to it he stated he wasn't gonna pull PS out again and that it'd be disgraceful, next panel the five kage are all a bloody mess and Tsunade was torn in half by Madara, Madara appears again and was shown not even breaking a sweat. He didn't even acknowledge it until Naruto asked what happened. So in correction, the five Kage can hold their own against a Madara not being serious, or toying around sure. But against Madara actually trying and giving effort, they get ass raped. In terms of the meteorite thing it's debatable if Madara's PS is bigger than it or not but Hashirama's buddha is doubled that in size, so the simple fact that the meteorite and Madara's PS is comparable means Hashirama's buddha HAS to be bigger.

In Edo Madara's fight against Hashirama he instantly pulled out PS, if Edo Madara did that to the Kages at the start the fight wouldn't have lasted more than a chapter. Hashirama is stomping the kage, he has better reaction time, stronger chakra, higher durability, more experience, 1,000 hand buddha, Wood golem, wood dragon, forest pollution (Might I add the Kage fell to this against Madara.) and so much more going for him. His raw chakra completely dwarfs theirs, nothing suggests the 5 Kage actually have a fighting chance against a serious Hashirama.