Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26107879-20181004003653/@comment-6769189-20181122085906

LoneNinja wrote: @Legion

1) Again, who are you to say no one can interpret it differently when people clearly do? Doesn't matter what one illegal translation says. People interpret it differently. I interpreted that statement differently. The Mods. The other users. Are you Kishimoto? Is your way the only way? Are you all knowing? Okay then. Go ahead an interperet it. I didnt even quote one of the illegal ones i quoted the official dub.

LoneNinja wrote:

2) Again what are you talking about? I said Sasuke performed standstill Chidori with ease which you replied with that chapter. What does that chapter have to do with Sasuke using Chidori with ease? Kakashi using Chidori from a standstill.

LoneNinja wrote:

3) Baseball players swing between 70-80 mphs. With a slight reaction speed, and a swing that fast anyone can hit a 90-100 mphs pitch. To be more precise, baseballs that move 90 mphs only move 1 foot around 8 milliseconds. Baseball swingers who swing at 70 mphs, swing up to a foot around 10 milliseconds. There's not much of a gap in timing here which means a minimal reaction speed is needed. This only backs up the point that the rock jonin can counter properly even if he isnt as fast. LoneNinja wrote:

4) The distance as shown when Kakashi states "18" is about 5 feet. We can clearly see where his sword is, where he is standing, etc. So why are you acting like he was already in movement when there's no movement lines around the fodder character? If Kakashi was moving faster than sound, he would hit his target at precisely five milliseconds aka 40x faster than the average human blinks. The guy then shouts, takes a step back, and slashes. Shouting takes time. Stepping backwards takes time. Slashing upwards with a foot of movement takes time. He did all that within five milliseconds? No. The fact he even shouted proves they weren't moving as fast as sound. He formed a complete sentence "Don't push your luck, runt!". The word "Don't" alone, proves it isn't. The man wouldn't have been able to even say "don't" if Kakashi was moving 1.1 feet per millisecond (the lowest speed of sound) since the first sound of the word couldn't be formed since Kakashi would be moving at the same exact speed of that first sound. The man would of been interrupted. But he wasn't. He formed a complete sentence, took a step back, slashed. All that > Kakashi's speed. It's simple, if Kakashi was as fast as sound, the man wouldn't have shouted cause he wouldn't have been able to, he wouldn't have been able to take a step back (from the distance it looks to be above a foot apart) unless it moved around the speed of sound, and he wouldn't have slashed Kakashi unless his arm's movement was moving faster than sound (which is actually possible in the Narutoverse). The reason this is relevant is because I said Chidori wasn't fast which you disagreed. I have always stated if something is slower than sound, it isn't fast in my opinion. Characters move faster than sound all the time in the series while speaking. This point is beyond moot.

All we see of the jonin before the moment after the counter is his face with nothing but lines behind it.

LoneNinja wrote:

6) Exactly, if. There's an if. Why? If Chidori moved as fast as you claimed (Lightning Speed), there wouldn't be an if. Lightning moves at 1/3rd the speed of light. Or to be exact 320,000,000 feet per second. Or 320,000 feet per millisecond. Or 320 feet per microsecond. Or 1 foot about every 3 in and half nanoseconds. That would mean Kakashi moves 1 foot at every 3 in and half nanoseconds. That is by far faster than 99% of anyone in the entire world can react therefore there'd be no reason to worry about an if. Therefore, why can anyone can counter? The series has characters who can react to lightning. The only time it would be used would be on a high level opponant who could potentially counter it.

Haku did it. Twice.

Gaara protected himself from it.

Pain did it. Twice.

Ninja Of War wrote:

You can't say tunnel vision occurs regardless of speed, while saying chidori makes the user too fast to see counter attacks. That's a contradiction right there. So what is the cause of the tunnel vision? What is your evidence that the chidori boosts speed? Ok hold on. I dont think im being clear about what i mean.

Chidori In Use=User max speed+push/pull of Chidori

So hypotheitically, if Kakashi can run at 200 mph and Chidori moves at 100 mph, then Kakashi using Chidori moves at 300 mph. This would cause the tunnel vision since Kakashi can only percieve 200 mph.

So even if Kakashi can run at 400 mph, Chidori would still cause tunnel vision because it would boost him 100 mph over his limits