Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-27924662-20160817160245/@comment-25093611-20160822183421

UltimaDude wrote: Same logic still applies. So what if the Susanno is made of Sasuke's chakra? It still doesn't mean that he would be immune just like it. Users don't share every properties with their jutsus. Rinnegan = SPC that madara should have been affected by IT too by that logic... UltimaDude wrote: Rinnegan = SPC, otherwise Madara wouldn't of been able to awaken it no, madara awakened rinnegan via fusion of indra and ashura components, with TT he gained SPC,

sasuke and naruto had their respective components and gained SPC which made the outcome different, sasuke gained a mutated rinnegan and naruto SPSM which is extremely similar to the TT-jin mode albeit in a weaker form (with 6 or so TSBs instead of 10)... UltimaDude wrote: No, it was specifically stated that he was the one who gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and Naruto his SPSM can you give the chapter? UltimaDude wrote: How was he being inconsistent? Jinchurikis are stronger than their Tailed Beast for durability, yes, but that isnt the case for immunity or certain hax abilitys, the TT-jin is immune to jutsus without senjutsu no matter the strength, but TT-jin was affected by amaterasu, maybe the jin gets this nice little hax after absorbing the TT or it is a inconsistency... UltimaDude wrote: Yet, none of Kaguya's and Madara's Dojutsu techniques are Senjutsu. The Rinnegan is a separate power from SPS their abilitys are powered up by their chakra which is shown thanks to the TT to be nature energy/senjutsu, ergo, their doujutsus are also powered up by that... UltimaDude wrote: I was saying that he didn't receive any Senjutsu when he got his Rinnegan from Madara. And like I said, dark-colored lightning is not always Senjutsu but there are more indicators to be senjutsu than not to be, as i already mentioned with CS-chidori and SPC-chidori and obito stating that kakashi got his SPC which colored his raikiri black.. UltimaDude wrote: Do you even know what you said? You said that IT involves Senjutsu, which would mean it is made of Rinnegan(along with Sharingan) + 9 Bijuus + Senjutsu. The same things that make up the jutsu are required to undo it, which is, again, what you implied, Rinnegan(along with Sharingan) + 9 Bijuus + Senjutsu. This would mean that Senjutsu is needed to undo it, but that's no the case at all, seeing as Naruto wasn't in SM/SPSM when he and Sasuke were undoing IT yes, senjutsu is needed, which TT has which only got cemented by seeing how kaguya only reacharged herself through nature energy...