Talk:Samehada

Name
Since the other blades of the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist have their names in English ("Decapitating Carving Knife" instead of "Kubikiri Hōchō", and Lightning Fangs instead of "Rai Rōga"), should we call Samehada "Shark Skin" instead? (Hiramekarei has no literal translation yet, so it doesn't count). Yatanogarasu 17:40, November 12 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Samehada actually does sound like a name, same with Hiramekarei(though I know this doesn't have a translation). Zabuza's sword however doesn't sound like a real name, just more or less what you call a giant sword made to decapitate things. The Lightning Fangs...I didn't actually see the filler arcs so I have no idea.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:50, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ability
I was watching naruto today and i saw Gai wielding Samehada.It was till only he tried to attack Kisame did it escape Gai's grip. Should we add this? JaiBoogie (talk) 22:34, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wielder
Considering Samehada betrayed Kisame for Killer Bee. Should Kisame be the previous wielder and Killer Bee be the current?
 * Killer Bee hasn't wielded it yet, Samehada has just taking a liking to him. Jacce | Talk 18:28, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * It still probbably wouldn't matter anyway. Kisame still wielded the sword for most of the series anyway.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:30, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The wielder should be unknown for now because Samehada is not Kisame's anymore, and not wielded by Killer Bee.
 * We don't go by present, but by the entire series. And we should wait and see what happens in the next chapter. Jacce | Talk 08:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

That is not right then, unless the weapons is with the person, then it is not a wielder. Samehada is not with Kisame so the wielder is not Kisame. Anyways, we should wait for the next chapter.

Character
Since Samehada is sentient and has the ability to use chakra, isn't it a character? I mean it hops around on its own, has loyalty issues, uses chakra (meaning its alive), it can even merge with a living person. Simant (talk) 18:54, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Technically no. It's still a tool. A rather unique tool, but still a tool.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:38, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression that ninken, which are characters, were tools as well, and there are some ninken that can't talk... Simant (talk) 20:03, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps when Samehada is actually treated as a character instead of a tool, we can start doing so as well. So far, it's been treated as a tool with an appetite for chakra. --ShounenSuki (talk 20:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * What more proof do you need? In chapter 470 page 17 - Kisame said: Looks like it likes the taste of your octopus chakras. He said "like" and tool can't like something. In the same chapter it seems that Samehada laughs. Next, chapter 471 page 8 - Kisame said: It is the first time that Samehada has grown this large. Don't you too think it's weird way to show happiness? - Samehada - happiness - the tools can't express happiness. page 11 - Samehada is really making a lot of noise out of exaltation... - another proof. - chapter 472 page 16 - No way... Have you grown attached to the Hachibi? Do you really like his chakra that much, Samehada? - Kisame talks to Samehada. Is he crazy or the sword have soul. Are you talk to the table in the living room, or to the window - no. :) I don't know if Samehada is tool or character, but one thing is clear - Tools can't express feeling, they are just used by someone. It may be more character then tool. Anyway you know what is the meaning for "tool" and for "character", right? :) I think that I will support Simant, but in the other hand - in the databook is probably said that Samehada is tool and you can't argue with the databook. :):):) And this tool is one of a kind. There is no other such thing so we can't take a side - tool or character and we can't compare it to something. :)--Donatelo (talk) 20:37, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * First, I didn't read any of your comment Mutant 16, because I know what the chapter said. That being said, that is very similar to how Naruto treats his wallet, Gama-chan. The only difference between the two is that Samehada eats chakra, while Gama-chan eats money. Both are still tools (technically yeah, Gama-chan is a wallet.)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:19, November 20, 2009 (UTC)