Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24855911-20140913181717/@comment-4271790-20140913230848

Matteo.raso.39 wrote: Itachi and Sasuke had both eye powers (refer to Sasuke vs Danzo for reference on Sasuke's Tsukuyomi), Kakashi saw both techniques with his sharingan, allowing him to copy them (he isn't the copy ninja for nothing!)and use them for the Susanoo, Shisui's Susanoo is non-canon, and a power-hungry freak like Madara probably has both to fight with (but didn't). From all this we can extrapolate that Indra used Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. This was my reason for asking, especially since the databook is outdated. Danzo claimed Sasuke's genjutsu couldn't alter a victim's perception of time like Itachi's. But the genjutsu Sasuke used was never confirmed to be Tsukuyomi. Otherwise Sasuke would be a user of Tsukuyomi in Narutopedia. Kakashi copying other Sharingan techniques is ridiculous. Madara and Indra weren't confirmed to use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi in the first place. The manga stated in chapter 464 that two Mangekyo powers, one awakened in each eye, brings forth the third power, Susanoo. Kakashi confirmed that in chapter 688 with his usage of Susanoo. You can't argue with the manga.