Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-44142243-20200822163643/@comment-6769189-20200823081906

UltimateMario1 wrote:

Well it's just that in the manga, Naruto only dodged the slash, which was not light speed. In the anime it was shown that Madara shot the beam at Naruto, which Naruto dodged and then Madara tried to get Naruto again by swinging his head towards him. This is false. Madara was looking straight at Naruto with the staff between them prior to firing the beam. From this position, he would have to shoot the beam straight at Naruto, cutting through the staff in the process.

Based on the "dodge" panel we can see that that the staff is broken, meaning he did initially fire the beam straight, cutting through the staff before Naruto could dodge. Naruto dodged before the beam hit him in the face, Madara swung to try and hit him.

I dont know why "he dodged the swing" is even a rebuttle in the Naruto community when Madara wouldnt have to swing unless Naruto dodged since Madara was looking him straight in the face already

UltimateMario1 wrote:

The problem is that if spsm + bm Naruto could dodge light speed attacks then he should owned kaguya and others. Also he never showed the same light speed reflexes again. Your problem is that you assume that because no one else has explicit featsbthat they can't do it. It shouldnt be hard to extrapolate that Kaguya is relativistic to Naruto in terms of speed if he simply cant speed blitz her.

Let's not forget that 8th Gate Guy was able to warp space and he would have to be moving at light speed to do that. Juubidara was percieving and reacting to that. According to the databook, SPSM Naruto is greater than or equal to Juubidara in speed