Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-4961229-20170516014433

BlazeRelease wrote: @Cyberian. Well okay, I thought you were using a plot arguement, but you obviously weren't. Ok. BlazeRelease wrote: Well the exceeded part went for the shield of Sand. While the matching part went for the lightning armour. Alright. My misunderstanding. BlazeRelease wrote: Well okay, if in your opinion, he can dodge, then he can dodge.Though what is it, with everyone getting angry over saying that he/she was speculating. I really don't get it. Not sure why you think I was angry. I thought we all were here having a friendly debate about a topic we all love, Naruto. All I was doing was replying to your comment about me speculating. BlazeRelease wrote: Okay well I guess I can agree on that one( the just because using one counter doesn't mean it's the only counter) Ok. BlazeRelease wrote: Well, I think there's tiny bit of correction needed there. Sasuke did blitz near enough Kaguya to attack her but she swapped dimensions. And Naruto attacked a tired Kaguya. Yes. However, the way it was presented he used space-time. Naruto used a Shuunshin. Sasuke's attack should be instant. However, the way he did it was wrong. He should've attacked before he activated his space-time jutsu, so that as soon as he arrived his attack would be piercing her body. Somehow Sasuke doesn't do this, when he did it against Madara multiple times. Off the top of my head he did it with his sword in his fight with Madara after the upgrade and again with Naruto's magnetic sealing jutsu and his black chidori.

Teleporters who attack before they teleport are almost always successful, because their attacks land instantaneously. Minato did this against Obito in the attack on Konoha. Obito who avoids everything could not avoid this attack. Then somehow Minato fails to do this against Madara. It's the same with Sasuke. I suppose we are to conclude the opponent was stronger than the one it worked on. Go figure. BlazeRelease wrote: And again why does that speed come and go? I mean it's pretty clear that both Kaguya and BZ were surprised by him using such speed even though he didn't show it earlier. As i said, it's the same with all characters. They do certain things and then they don't. Naruto showed incredible speed on multiple occasions, but doesn't do it all the time. If I had to guess, I'd say his speed is an ability that turns on and off. Raikage are the ones who constantly speed around and are presented as continuously having faster than normal thought processes whenever their armor is active. Almost everybody else, except 8-gates users, utilize bursts of speed. BlazeRelease wrote: Well while it was obviously a gag scene it was also going to jeopardize the whole attack, because it wouldn't have worked. And I think it's pretty clear that when strategy goes, Sasuke takes the lead. Except Naruto has defeated at least as many opponents as Sasuke, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. BlazeRelease wrote: Well in the end, I'm also on the side of Naruto winning, I just had some doubts. That's fine. I'm not saying you have to have my opinion. I thought we were just having friendly debate. I was playing a game online and took a break to check back in on some of the forum topics. I'm sorry if you thought I was angry. I wasn't.