Talk:Rasengan: "Uzuhiko"

Name
I know there will be a debate on what name should be used. Literal translation, what we have now, or partial literal translation? OmegaRasengan (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it'll depend on how it actually works. My initial guess is that it'll be the Rasengan variant of Chidori Current. An interesting idea would be to have this be inspired by Shojoji's Wind Release as well. I'm also hopping we get another formatting of the name. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:35, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Senjutsu
Senjutsu should be removed from the article until we have further information. The term used is entirely new. Munchvtec (talk) 17:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The technique harnesses energy from the planet itself. Sounds like senjutsu to me.Steveo920 (talk) 18:24, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Senjutsu is not just planetary energy, it is natural energy. At least from the translations I saw, Boruto said the attack is fueled by the Earth's chakra, not its natural energy. Senjutsu chakra does not even naturally exist except for those related to Kaguya/Hagoromo. It is the result of a shinobi manually balancing natural energy within their own chakra. I would recommend just swapping out senjutsu energy with the exact term Boruto uses in Japanese and providing a translation alongside it. Arcadia warlic (talk) 02:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Natural energy is the energy of the planet. Chakra is just another name for life energy. It was established early on that chakra uses one's physical and mental energy. Then natural energy is added in the mix to use senjutsu.Steveo920 (talk) 05:42, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Chakra is not a name for life energy, it is the combination of physical and mental energy of a living being. The Earth presumably does not have mental energy. Fukasaku's description of natural energy does not match that of chakra's as he describes it as closer to being the life energy of Earth. Id est, the Earth having chakra seems to be a new development. Arcadia warlic (talk) 14:12, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * But standard ninjutsu is about harnessing one's own chakra. Boruto was harnessing the planet's chakra.Steveo920 (talk) 21:38, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Using someone else's chakra is not the foundation of senjutsu. The user's own chakra is still used as the foundation therein. Hence my skepticism that this is senjutsu.Arcadia warlic (talk) 07:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * But to use something that isn't yours to begin with is still taking. Also, the fact that he is in league with Mount Myōboku further implies that he knows senjutsu.Steveo920 (talk) 13:12, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Implications do not belong on the wiki. He is in league with Kashin anyway, not Myoboku. The ending Jump text and someone speaking through the toads confirm as such. There is no reason to use a new term if it is indeed senjutsu. The wiki is jumping the gun here. Munchvtec (talk) 04:57, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If I am wrong, I am wrong. But if so, please tell me where exactly was Kashin revealed in chapter 3? I just looked on the VIZ website, and all I saw was Boruto talking to a toad who was talking to another toad, which it is shown that the nin-toads can talk themselves.Steveo920 (talk) 05:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

I did not say he was in the chapter. The magazine raw says "Boruto, who has defeated Code with his overwhelming jutsu. The toads that follow him are....????" This is not in Viz's free chapter. These toads are the modified ones as well.

Anyway, I'll say it again. The wiki is jumping the gun on calling it senjutsu. Munchvtec (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Using toads does not mean it is senjutsu. Borrowing chakra from another source is also not what senjutsu is. None of these points suggest senjutsu when natural energy (at least in the translations I saw) was not brought up. Arcadia warlic (talk) 05:44, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The Earth itself does not have Chakra, it has Natural Energy Uzuhiko manipulating that Natural Energy makes it a Senjutsu technique. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 21:59, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Boruto said he was using the Earth's chakra, and the manipulation of natural energy is not the basis of senjutsu, senjutsu is mixing natural energy with one's own chakra. Arcadia warlic (talk) 12:10, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Of course, Senjutsu is mixing Chakra with Natural Energy. The Earth does not have Chakra, it has Natural Energy. He is using the Earths Natural Energy for Uzuhiko. So either the jutsu is a Senjutsu or a Shinjutsu. That's it.

Kabuto used Natural Energy to control the rocks in the cave and that was still officially labeled Senjutsu even though it was never stated he was using his own chakra for it. BloodOfTheArchon (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2023 (UTC)