Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20180916223039

1) Lol. See this is why you are coming off biased. You're giving Itachi the ability to react just because Gaara reacted to a buried barely alive Kimimaro with no sensory skills and activated it from underground and from Lee's perspective, from afar. Then the irrefutable fact that he came up behind Gaara and even his sand didn't have time to react due to how much of a surprise attack it was. You can say Itachi this and this. Don't matter. If Itachi uses Susanoo. Kimimaro uses this. He dies. You have no proof he doesn't. He failed to dodge Inorganic. He has 0 knowledge on Kimimaro except maybe his name. And what did Itachi do to dodge the minuscule version? Oh wait he didn't. He used Susanoo to cut them. What happens when he does so again, against the wide range version? As he goes to slash, one rises from the ground and hits him. You say he's going to jump? He didn't jump last time, he ain't going to jump now.

2) Lol. So now you're going to downplay Konan? Feats > Statements. Konan landed a hit on Obito. Outsmarted him. He just outpowered her. Itachi couldn't outsmart Obito once and if he could have done a better job than Konan, he would've since anything better than what Konan did would be killing him. It's stated Itachi planned out his attack on Obito. He planned out everything. Just as Konan did. The difference, Konan actually hurt Obito and almost killed him. Meanwhile, Itachi failed to even realize Obito had Kamui. The feat speaks for itself. Konan did what Itachi could not. Her tactics proved better. You ain't convincing me otherwise due to the fact if Itachi could have killed Obito, he would have.

3) Only once did Amaterasu engulfed an entire being fast (Killer Bee's tentacle disguised as Gyuki). That could be debated on that he was a big target therefore Sasuke could use a wide spread attack of Amaterasu. It has engulfed slowly more than it has fast. Therefore it is a slow engulfing technique and the wiki even states this "For all its lethal potential, Amaterasu burns fairly slowly, allowing targets to remove burning clothes before their body is caught ablaze or, if it's too late for that, remove the burning body part(s) before it spreads.[13]". Therefore if Konan is hit, she just turns into paper and replaces the paper that are caught on fire. You can keep downplaying her all you want but Amaterasu is not going to even catch 50% of the paper on fire.

4) So Susanoo is faster than Chakra Cloaked Naruto? Doubt it. Therefore he can be dodged. A simple Flicker would allow anyone to dodge it. I haven't seen any real speed feats from any Susanoo to the degree you're going on. So by that logic, I can use the argument you've been using and say it was all plot.

5) Part 1 Kakashi wasn't even close to being on par with part 1 Orochimaru. Even he knew it when he coward in fear before him. Enough said.