Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20180916114109

1) First off, Itachi did not see Kimimaro's face. There was a wall of Amaterasu between them. That is the main reason Itachi was cut off from his sentence of asking if Sasuke was alright when Tatsuya was used and they were caught in Genjutsu right after Kimimaro was used. Sasuke and Itachi could not see him cause they put a wall of black flames between them and him when the webs were used. Secondly, the one Kimimaro utilized is twenty times better than the one Kabuto used. It conjured tens of thousands of bones. Bones that sprout out in multiple directions and isn't just a single straight bone which means "walking" on them isn't an option when the bones are more like tree branches in the way they are formed. Even Lee needed to be saved, someone who is very fast. They're sharp to shred anyone who comes in contact with them. And they form high up dozens of feet in the air becoming a forest of blades. The reason why I'm so sure it will work is because A) How will he know such a wide range technique is happening until it happens when he isn't even aware of the ground. B) I only see this being used when Susanoo is used since it's the biggest counter technique for it. If Gaara's sand can catch Madara off guard, I see no reason this won't catch Itachi off guard especially when Kabuto used something similar on Itachi and easily wrecked him utilizing Sage Art: Inorganic Reincarnation which wasn't even on the scale of the Bone forest Kimimaro can erect. Then there's the contingency he can turn into any one of the bones should they not finish the job. Thus providing a strike from behind.

2) Seeing how both tried to outsmart Obito and one succeeded and the other didn't, Konan proves to be the better tactician. She did something Itachi failed to do. Hit Obito, multiple times. Even without the thousand of explosions, when he went to suck her into Kamui, she blew him up a little according to him. Then her well thought out plan that exploited Obito's every weakness that even Itachi failed to find out. So yea. Itachi definitely doesn't beat her in planning and being a tactician. So again, quit downplaying her by saying things the manga showed otherwise. The best example is how they went about Obito. One succeeded in a way that he had to use Izanagi, the other did not.

3) As shown Amaterasu flames burn very slow compared to regular fire. So slow, Ay wasn't even tripping for a few instances and after a few words were spoken, then he proceeded to remove his hand. Konan was burned by Jiraiya in her paper form and she came out unscathed, I see no reason why she can't do the same with Amaterasu. She utilizes Chakra to create and shape paper as well as turn into paper. I doubt Amaterasu will work on someone who can split themselves apart and replace any lost paper.

4) And there's no proof that the blade is instant as you seem to suggest. Or fast. It's just a sword. All it does is seal and be a sword. The Susanoo is what swings and thrusts it. Therefore, Orochimaru just has to react to the Susanoo which I'm sure he can do. Whatever happened in that instance is dandy and all, but plenty of people could react to a Susanoo. As I said, Orochimaru lacked a lot of things. You can't sit here and say Orochimaru was at 100%. You can't say he cared if he got hit. You can't say he could move out of the way. You can't even say if the drool that was all over him was in his eyes or not. So that isn't a feat. Orochimaru reacted and kept up with Kyubi cloaked Naruto. I'm sure he can react and dodge a swing from Susanoo.

5) His fight with Kakashi in part 1 is kind of irrelevant. In every regard part 1 Kakashi fails to measure up to the ability these three can dish out and the intelligence they possess.