Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-31099706-20170430093035

Fun Fact:Rasenshuriken is made of wind elemental chakra! and in Naruto wind is weak against fire. Well the more you know, right? :P

@Vladosaurus. Okay, but you have to know that to measure Sage mode Naruto's power against we need to atleast measure MS Sasuke's power against Danzo, so here goes it.

@Namikaze. Yes I truelly believe, we seen two different fights, since the way you're putting it or just that we have very different point of veiws.

Mine as how I saw the battle is a little different from you.

1.Sasuke and his team, Taka are infiltrating the Kage Summit to assinate Danzo, but Zetsu on command of Tobi alerted the kages and the samurais. So a whole gang/army of Samurais come to face Sasuke. Sasuke is easily overwhelming them, when they are suddenly alerted by the breaking, revealing the raikage in entering the battle.

2.Raikage and his two bodyguards joins with the Samurai's to fight Sasuke. They reveal to have accurate info about him.

C uses a genjutsu, which Sasuke saw through, but was distracted by it and such(if I remember rightly) got attacked by Darui, which Suigestsu blocked.Then Sasuke and his team Taka fights the Raikage, in which C is unconscious due to Sasuke's genjutsu which he mentions to be rare.Raikage shows his amazing speed, and then Sasuke uses chidori which hits Raikage, to his own surprise to which he says that even touching him with this speed is a feat that of it's own. Then Raikage catches Sasuke and is about to slam Sasuke(which everyone there thought will kill Sasuke due to the Raikages strength) but Sasuke awakens Susanoo, which saves him from the Damage, but as the fight proceeds, Sasuke realizes Raikages strength seeing him punching through Susanoo, but Sasuke also catches him with Amaterasu.

3. As the battle is coming to and end with Raikage going forwards with a full on attack against Sasuke, which Sasuke equips his Susanoo with Amaterasu thorns, which shows that in the end, both of them will die, but Gaara blocks A and then convinces him to give him a chance and A agrees so he could stop his burning and get healed by C.

Gaara's words aren't affecting Sasuke and so, he and his siblings and Darui, try a combined attack against Sasuke to finish him. to which Sasuke further evolves his Susanoo to defend against it(rather easily) then slashes around the ceiling to get them out of his way so to reach Danzo before wasting more of his chakra and grabs Karin, so to guide him.

4. The sensors have figured out that Sasuke coming their way fast. They are waiting in that room when one of them says that he came, but only sees some flags being cut off by a sword slash. they look a for a minute and if you watch or read again you can see the yamanaka guy looking sideways searching for Sasuke and then just looking to see him up there.

No one saw him up going up there even though they were facing the entrance room. That's a blizt! that's why he was shown running to the room.

5.Gets suddenly attacked by Mifune, and then easily blocks it and gains praise of being a good swordsman from him.

Danzo runs away while this happens. and so Sasuke tries to chase afte him just to get blocked by Mizukages Lava attack on the wall. And then her Bodyguard attacks with a special sword on Sasuke which sends through the wall and thus perfectly placing him at Mizukages advantage, a closed room so her boil release can have full focus and not to hurt anyone innocent. Sasuke's both pain from the Susanol and Boil release is getting to him. before being saved by Zetsu.

He then gets out of the room tp be surprised by Onoki's dust release. which he is saved by Tobi.

Conclussion. Sasuke did a great(they are kages with their bodyguards bro) job in fighting and escaping from the kages, their bodyguards and the Samurais.But this caused him alot of chakra loss, injuries and eye strain, and pain from even the cells.And he did blizt the kages but he sure wasn't faster than A at that time. but he still did it.

And if you remember well enough, Danzo suffered alot of chakra drain from using those Izanagis even with Hashi cells. MS is of another level of chakra drain. So it does matter whether you like it or not.

Seriously? You just wrote above at this very post that Chakra doesn't matter for Danzo, and now below you wrote that it does? atleast agree to your opinions bro.

Danzo was old, yes. But he was also powered by Hashi cells so basicallt with his experience and youth regained strength, he is in his prime.

Why shouldn't I give the injury importance? It seems most fans always takes injury and chakra loss for characters like Itachi and Naruto. But when Sasuke has it, it doesn't matter and it's an excuse?

He did have shisui's eye and he could have used his MS byt not it's special which is Koto, because he used it already. but he very well knew that it would be useless against a pure blooded MS Uchiha prodigy and believed that the Izanagi was the only way to win.

And blaming Plot is stupid, just because you don't ahve anything to counter you call on Plot huh? I could also use alot of plot counters but I won't because me, you and everyone else will just use it on their own favor to support their own arguements. And that is why I said, I don't want any plot counters. :)

You're the one flattering yourself. If you said that the shurikens were shot by anyone else than Sasuke,Itachi and Kakashi. I would have agreed. But Sasuke's a shuriken master. He does not need to miss his shot. Ask Itachi. When a MS weilding shuriken master throws his shuriken then it will be only for the sole reason of him getting a clear shot. otherwise he wouldn't throw it. and just because shurikens are shown more and more less in the series that doesn't mean that they are not lethal anymore.

I think you take Obito as an example huh? Just because he uses MS with no drawbacks with hashi cells doesn't mean anyone can do it. He is a Uchiha with his own awakened MS, and so is also powered by hashi cells and thus losing all the drawbacks to MS. While normal MS users face alot of drawbacks to it and I'm talking about orginal owners here. Sasuke and Itachi both were always in pain due to it even it was their own. Both of their MS made lose alot of cahrla very fast. and now you're here saying that a non compatible(I'm guessing) non Uchiha DMS user can do wonders with just the help of Hashi cells? those hashi cells only improved his chakra ability to use Shisui's Koto the same way Shisui could do, one fo one day, but shisui can do it with two eyes.

Anyways the fight won't last very long, Danzo will suffer both from Chakra loss and eye strain. and without Izanagi he won't survive any of Sasuke moves.

and remember Danzo needs to activate Izanagi and the last time Sasuke used Susanoo arrows he got Danzo without Izanagi pretty easily.

And there's always kirin and if as you say, Danzo does use MS, then he would probably deactivate Izanagi which is a bad move, considering he only needs to be hit by Amaterasu once and then it's over.

Obito's main point was to train Sasuke using these near death battles so to make him get stronger much faster. and he knows very well that he can't face Danzo alone with that Koto. and so with two of them there it's okay.

I think you're mentioning the body flicker technique of shisui's right? cause everything else aside, he had more than his own powers at there. And he didn't even try to Blizt attack Sasuke because he knew it was pointless. and so used shisui's body flicker technique to blizt through a tired walking Sasuke to catch Karin.

Danzo had alot of luck, he was sitting in a comfortable chair while Sasuke was battling two kages,their bodyguards and Samurais that were assinged to guard a summit of kages. and then proceeding to attack two other kages and then falling unconscious due to the pain. And getting minor healing from Karin.

Danzo got to fight a very tired teen who wasn't even close to his prime when Danzo had 10 sharingans,Hashi enhanced strength, experience of all his ninja life, wood release, knowledge and talent to use those sharingans for Izanagi, he was in his prime at that time alot due to Hashi cells. if that isn't luck then I don't know what.

Shisui's only prowress was that body flicker that couldn't even attack a tired Sasuke. nice. And Sorry for the long post.