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@QuakingStar

None of those links say that Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya. They only refer to Jiraiya not being able to save Orochimaru. Save =/= Defeat btw.

So I'll ask again, is there evidence that Orochimaru apparently defeated Jiraiya?