Talk:Chakra

Six Paths Chakra
Why the hell do we classify it as a chakra type, even though we have freaking zero idea what 'six paths chakra' means contextually? All I see is people left and right use the term in relation to characters' abilities, like 'Naruto got Six Paths Chakra, hence he can do this or that' or 'Sasuke got Six Paths Chakra, but because his body and chakra are different, it affected him differently' etc. So what I see is people talking about and using 'Six Paths Chakra' as some actual known thing, like they know what it is, what it means and what it does, even though it's nothing more than a term used in the series, no more than some possible concept, so why do we exactly pretend that we know what the concept is, that it's some type of chakra and it did this and that?
 * Bump--Elve Talk Page 17:04, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * One thing that supports it being its own distinct type of chakra is that it can apparently be acquired from the Ten-Tails in addition to Hagoromo, and that it can injure the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki and Limbo clones when normal chakra can't. Though the concept is definitely vague enough that articles shouldn't pretend we know what exactly "Six Paths Chakra" is, and instead just repeat what is said about it in the series.--BeyondRed (talk) 18:46, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's my point, thank you. We don't really have an idea what it is and what it does, along with many other 'Six Paths' things, but I think it should be removed as something specific and certain and rather we should just state: 'x said y was achieved with six paths chakra' instead of us speculating on what it is etc. because it's just mind boggling to see it being used so casually and with certainty, but if asked what six paths is, no one has an answer then, so it's contradictory.--Elve Talk Page 22:00, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Supernatural
This isn't necessarily something in dire need of being added, but shouldn't it be noted that Kinshiki mentions in Boruto that chakra is a power which allows one to "control supernatural phenomenon"? I've seen some reject the idea of it being a "mystical" power but Kinshiki's description seems to straightforwardly tell us it is. MindForged (talk) 04:32, November 7, 2018 (UTC)

Where is this expressly stated?
Under Overview, 3rd paragrapth. "Therefore, practising a technique repeatedly will build up experience, increasing one's spiritual energy, and thus allowing more chakra to be created. As a result, the ninja is able to do that same technique with more power. This same cycle applies for physical energy, except the ninja needs to increase their endurance instead. Some unique individuals have substantial potential that enable them to exponentially increase their chakra reserves in a relatively short amount of time." Littlegen (talk) 00:48, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about what grows spiritual and physical energies, that's from Sakura's explanation of chakra, sometime in the Land of Waves arc. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:28, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the last sentence of the quote. Littlegen (talk) 18:15, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know if that is something that is explicitly said, but it is somewhat observed, since the sentence is linking that to reincarnation. All the reincarnations we saw got very power very fast. Maybe being a reincarnation gives you an edge, kinda like having a chakra nature means you have an easier time learning that type of jutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:43, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

Kaguya, Juubi, and 6 Paths Chakra
Why aren't Kaguya and the Juubi mentioned to have 6 Path Chaka? Kaguya has SPS abilities which means she should have 6 Paths Chakra. She is also one and the same with the Juubi, which serves as a source of 6 Paths Chakra. LegionZero (talk) 00:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Not given by being Juubi's jinchuriki
It is said in this page: Six Paths chakra (六道チャクラ, Rikudō Chakura) is the unique chakra of Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki. Six Paths chakra can be acquired from Hagoromo, by combining the chakra of Hagoromo's sons — Indra and Asura — to form the Rinnegan, or by becoming the jinchūriki of the Ten-Tails.

Now I agree that by definition, Six Paths chakra is the Sage of Six Paths' chakra (so Hagoromo's chakra). And by that logic, the only ways to aquire it is either for Hagoromo to give it, or for you to combine his descendants' chakra. But I disagree that being the jinchuuriki of the Ten-Tails gives you the SP chakra. In this wikipage, the justification is Chapter 680, well my justification against is also 680.

Kakashi says: "WELL... SIX PATHS CHAKRA-ENHANCED MADARA COULD FLOAT TOO". However, we already know that Naruto, Madara, even Kaguya etc.. could float because of Six Paths Senjutsu, not Six Paths Chakra. We also know that when someone is adding Senjutsu to form his chakra, they call it " Senjutsu Chakra " (it is in the same wikipage about chakra).

Therefore, I believe that what Kakashi meant is "Six Paths Senjutsu chakra-enhanced Madara". It would make more sense, after all, Sasuke received Six Paths chakra too but couldn't float, because both Madara and Naruto floated thanks to SP Senjutsu.

I'm not familiar with wikis, I know this system works with users contributions, I don't know however if I should ask before modifiying or if I can just modify and explain why I modified. Hence, I'll remove the "or by Six Paths Ten-Tails Coffin Seal becoming the jinchūriki of the Ten-Tails" and post the explanation here.

Edit: I preshot something someone could ask: But then how did Kakashi use Six Paths Chakra? -> The answer is in the wiki page already, Obito gave him. And also: But then how did Obito get Six Paths Chakra? -> Because of Madara's Rinnegan. Madara got Six Paths Chakra after transfering a graft from Hashirama, so it would make sense for a Rinnegan transfer to also transfer Six Paths Chakra. EstebanOD (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Your analysis is not suitable for the wiki's purposes. The wiki reports what is said in the series regardless of whether or not it makes sense. ~SnapperTo 19:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, I thought wikis were meant to make sense sorry, as I said I'm pretty new to wikis ahah EstebanOD (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Nevermind actually Snapper ; what you said isn't true, the wiki doesn't "reports what is said in the series regardless of whether or not it makes sense."
 * The manga said "WELL... SIX PATHS CHAKRA-ENHANCED MADARA COULD FLOAT TOO" that's it. All the manga said was that Madara floated thanks to Six Paths Chakra (which doesn't make sense but it's okay), however, the manga never  said Madara had Six Paths Chakra BECAUSE he was the Ten-Tails Jinchuriki.
 * Once again, Madara had Rinnegans therefore he had Six Paths Chakra prior to being Jinchuriki, nowhere in the manga does it says being Jinchuriki is the reason that Madara has SPC.
 * So when the wiki says Chapter 681 justify saying being the Ten-Tails Jinchuriki gives you Six Paths Chakra, it's false, this chapter only talks about Madara floating thanks to SPC not that he got SPC thanks to Juubi. So if the wiki only reports what the manga says, "or by becoming the jinchūriki of the Ten-Tails." should be deleted as the manga never said that.EstebanOD (talk) 18:55, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I revised the section since several of the references didn't corroborate the information. I only kept what I could verify; if anything is to be added back it needs a reference to go with it. ~SnapperTo 20:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)