Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-37790263-20181211231405/@comment-37790263-20181212173140

UltimaDude wrote: ShisuiTheDrownedCrow wrote: The Coup failed from the moment the village knew about it. Secondly, genocide is a pretty extreme plan A. If your knee jerk response to opposition is genocide, something is wrong with you. The Uchiha didn't immediately jump to coup after the Nine Tails attack, it took 11 yrs to get to that point. And even if we hypothetically presume they did, the government was aware of a potential national security threat for over a decade and did nothing. Really the fault is squarely with Hiruzen. Keeping a segment of the population under segregation and surveillance without proof of a crime for years, and not addressing it. The Leaf administration was humorously inefficient. Im not saying that the coup was the best course of action, it wasn't; but when people are pushed (whether in reality or belief), and feel that they aren't being treated fairly, they lash out. You can only remain docile and patient for so long. You really need to rewatch/reread the reason why Itachi massacred his clan. You making it seem that the reason why the Uchihas were killed is simply discrimination, which is not true. If the Uchihas were to carry out the coup, then there would be many deaths on both side (most likely more on the village side since the Uchihas are one of, if not, the strongest clan in the entire village). This would greatly weaken the village, allowing the other villages a chance to attack. A violent coup is not just a mere opposition. The whole massacre could have been avoided altogether, but I am simply addressing your oversimplification of the reason why they were massacred I "kudos" your response because I understand the reasoning behind it. But what i take issue with is the extreme mishandling of the situation by the village leadership. Itachi killed his clan for two reasons: 1) He was trying to protect his brother 2) He was trying to preserve the Uchiha name both as a clan worthy of respect, and as a existing clan, period. Secondly, the "phantom villages". After the death of Minato and the devastation of the 9 tails attack, no villages attacked. After the combined attack of Otogakure and Sunagakure and the death of Hiruzen, no attack. After the destruction ofthe village by Pain, no attack. There's a well known political tactic of maintaining power by creating fear of "others", in this case the other villages. Danzo knew that Itachi was traumatized by war, and played on that fear to manipulate him. I didn't intend to convey that the Uchiha were killed soley because of hatred and mistrust, i was trying to say that the Uchiha were driven to the point of coup because of it. If the Uchiha were going to rebel soley out of a desire for power, they had over half a century to do it. It wasn't until the forced relocation, and surveillance that they considered a coup.