Narutopedia talk:Image policy

Episode Preview images
So there was recently an image added to the Sasuke Uchiha article that depicted Sasuke's EMS closer up. However, this image came from an episode preview of an episode that wasn't released or even created at the time of the upload. As of today, that image is now fanon, because the scene it showed did not appear at all in Episode 331, which is the episode preview depicted in Episode 330. As a result, I have removed that image from the article and replaced it with the previous image. The purpose of this discussion is to discuss whether it should be added to the policy "Do not upload images from episode previews, they are technically fanon and therefore not permitted here. The reason they're considered fanon is because they can depict scenes that will then never be shown verbatim in the episode they're previewing". Thanks. Also, no arguments, no high and mighty behaviour, be civil. --Speysider Talk Page 17:52, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * An image produced by the anime, even if it's an image that is not used, cannot be "fanon". ~SnapperTo 17:57, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Even if it's produced by the anime, if it's in the episode previews, it's not canon until it's shown in the episode it's referring to. Whenever Sasuke used his EMS in Episode 331, it included his Susanoo, which the episode 331 preview at the end of episode 330 did not show. I'm not saying it's pure fanon, but it's kinda fanon because it's incorrect depiction. It's like as if someone had leaked the next episode on the internet which wasn't actually released and started taking screen grabs from that leaked episode to here: until an episode is officially released, it's fanon, just like how it is with manga if it's leaked early. --Speysider Talk Page 18:05, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Early manga information isn't permitted because the information can't be corroborated until the chapter is fully released. The anime, being a few years behind the manga, cannot have that problem.
 * It is not "fanon", it is not "incorrect", it is "promotional". ~SnapperTo 18:09, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a sort of "filler" which technically makes it non-canon anyway. The point of this discussion is whether we should permit uploading of images from the episode previews, my stance is that we should just simply wait until the anime directors release each episode, rather than using images from episode previews. --Speysider Talk Page 18:21, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this the image we're talking about? Isn't this simply a cropped version of whatever scene in the episode that did show Sasuke's eye? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:24, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. That image was cropped from an episode preview shown at the end of Episode 330 (the preview showing Episode 331) and that particular scene didn't even exist in the actual Episode 331. I watched Episode 331 and every scene depicting Sasuke using his EMS either showed just one eye at a far distance or both eyes with the Susanoo surrounding it. --Speysider Talk Page 18:26, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

So that image did not appear in the anime then. Interesting inclusion in the preview then. Anyway, this does make me want to ask a question: If we cannot use anime preview for images where they are appropriate, then why can we use fanbook images? I mean I'm sure I'll find the answer backass and illogical, but I'm still curious.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:32, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to the fanbooks that were for the original Naruto ? I believe those were the original Databooks before the "X no Sho" versions for Shippuden. --Speysider Talk Page 18:33, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Artbooks, fanbooks, databooks. Anything that does not appear in the manga proper. I am curious why those images, which are officially released yet not in the manga proper are allowed and we must have this discussion about the anime.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 18:35, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe it's because they were made by Kishi-sensei himself ? Could be wrong though. The anime, on the other hand, is an interpretation of what Kishi wrote, which makes it possible for errors to appear in the anime that didn't exist in the manga (like, X person had an earring in the manga but X wasn't depicted with that said earring in the anime) --Speysider Talk Page 18:36, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's lovely but that doesn't negate the fact that until it appears in the manga proper it is still technically not valid. And citing potential anime mistakes ignores that Kishimoto makes his own mistakes all the time, yet he gets a pass while we must have long drawn out discussion on every anime mistake.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 18:47, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I mean I know I'm barking up a tree here and nothing I say will change the outcome. But it just seems to me that we're going to go with "Hey let's not use this good image for no other reason than it doesn't come from the anime/manga proper and to hell if it still comes from an official source."
 * And that's the last I will say about this subject as I do not wish to go into a pointless back and forth over it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 19:04, September 19, 2013 (UTC)