Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33390047-20171108150121/@comment-30323490-20171108202859

I don't want to underestimate Jiraya's SM, but he didn't display SM feats to the same degree Naruto did. For instance, Jiraiya's sensing and reactions were quite meh, even in SM. It was pretty BS how he wasn't able to sense and/or react to the Asura path sneaking on him, and he was in SM at that time. He also never displayed Naruto's ability to use NY as an extension of his body. He does have a way larger pool of justu than Naruto, and yes, Naruto did have to make a lot up to, considering the huge gap between their base version, but still Naruto did get a much greater buff with SM than Jiraiya. He will also have to go through about 8 rasenshurikens, who can get both expanded and detonated at will, and knowing Naruto's fighting style, it can come when you least expect it. His shadow clones can also easily make the senjutsu version of the big ball rasengan.

Pain did state that if Jiraiya would've known his secret, he might've won, and Naruto did get support from the frogs and from Kurama, but let's be honest here: Naruto's fight with Pain was on another level than Jiraiya's.

For me this battle could go either way.