Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-34656247-20180816233603

@Legion....If it was just his arm then the motion lines wouldnt cover his entire body
 * Ermm he moved his entire right side, pushing the chakra arm forward which in the end costs him to twist his upper body to the right.....motion lines are infront of him when he hasn't even moved there.....wonder how ;_;

'''Didnt concern him much in 601 when he tried to shove it in Madara's face. TBB's can be released as a beam as well.'''
 * Cuz he was like a clone.......

Yet he didnt even try to move when Obito was in his face
 * I said that's why he wouldn't go in close...obviously his movement was jammed because he had to focus on the bomb and Gai and Kakashi would stand by and not help? what you're thinking is that the characters move on their own? the whole manga was planned, so no matter what the main character sure as hell would'nt go down there.

He should have been able to start moving as Obito closed in on him, but he couldnt
 * Hashtag Bijju dama was heavy...hashtag he need to be away from the explosion...hashtag page 11 to 13 shows he needs to be mobile to use the bomb..

@Combat....'''I'm sorry but Kamui boy (after rinnegan) may be faster than kcm naruto. I mean, the fact that naruto's foot couldn't come down in the time obito closed the distance, and the fact that naruto seemed to be struggling facial expression wise tells me he seemed overwhelmed by obito's speed'''
 * Ok first of all i really can't believe you just said faster than KCM Naruto just from that scene😅😅😅.damn ;_;..Secondly the guy didn't move for 8 PAGES!!!!!!! you know what that tells me? he loved that spot❤❤ . I guess the 8 pages statement should explain. But i know you're focusing on the feet, maybe he did get caught off balance a bit? cuz look at his lean on page 7. And no, look at page 5 he was kinda smirking there whilst the bomb was forming...page 6 shows the struggle-ish face conicidentially after the bomb was fully formed. Naruto's reaction to Obito's speed can be seen page 8, first panel..the dots

'''Guy saved naruto there. And the Guy keeping up argument fails because guy was in mid-air, he was falling with free fall speed. So he jumped off a prop and then came straight down on top of them. Guy's timing there could have just been dumb luck, or plot.'''
 * Gai made his entry on page 8, on page 9 he landed also on page 9 we saw naruto not moving! and was left in the same spot...kinda tells me he wasn't trying to move. And if Obito was moving FASTER than KCM Naruto as you mentioned, then Gai would've still been late, falling or not....
 * This chapter will kinda explain the rest, chapter 571 [bijju mode],page 2 shows the ditance the bombs are away from each other, notice the attack from the 7 tails also who is in mid air. Third panels shows that the bombs were launched [this will kinda reduce the distance naruto will need to travel] Page 3 shows that Naruto blitz the bomb away [hashtag topspeed, hashtag realspeed, hashtag Obito never did anything close, hashtag stop the wank ya'll]...we can see MIGHT GAI! being surprised asking is that naruto? kakashi was also shocked seeing what he thought was minato...Now the kamui spammer was found to be shocked by that speed on the last panel also.That's kinda Naruto's top speed so if Obito was going faster than Naruto, Gai would'nt been able to see him [as this chapter proves] and clearly Naruto really moved faster than what Gai was falling at. But no! all obito did was take a jump forward....as is mentioned before this is something anyone can do, he'll get credit for covering the distance kinda quick tho.

'''Also, when they were hopping from rock to rock, naruto seemingly had a head start and obito was still right on top of him. '''
 * Let's not ignore the fact that Naruto was jumping backwards and still Obito could'nt catch him, no one can move effective enough with that running/jumping style. And i thank you for noticing this, glad someone did. since obito was stuck in mid air, he used his gunbai to catch up....but he wasn't really stuck in mid air, there were so many rocks...

The real question is, does the rinnegan give that much more of a speed boost, or is obito's increase in speed due to plot armour.
 * Neither.ONE it was nowhere stated that it grants speed boost if you have a proof then i'll really shut up xd. TWO he didn't even have a speed boost, i mean if he did they could've atleast showed us a blitzing scene so we can like chill back and say yeh he is fast ;_-...

Nowwwww lets take a look at chapter 549 [itachi's question], i did say if you guys are gonna argue that obito is fast as naruto i would do the same with Itachi also including the bullettime excuse. Itachi was fast enough to launch a grand katon, replace himself with a clone, jump up and head to naruto's location, land a hit on him dodging the swing of his left arm also, bottom panel on page 6 shows that they both landed on the ground, itachi swung his foot at naruto who successfully dashed away, Page 7 shows Itachi suddenly at the spot naruto dashed to, woah how did he get there?( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) blocking a swing of naruto's right hand whilst LOOKING in the left [not on naruto, not on bee]...then he dodged a point blank attack from a swordsmans without even looking at where the blade swing was coming from, also made 2 flips and covvered roughly 30-40 feet....kinda impressive ;_;. But yet nothing hints that Itachi can dodge ay, cuz i know that naruto wasn't fighting top speed there, but you guys on the other hand are so desperate you're struggling to find a speed feat for the kamui spammer, looking at smallllll stuff, like naruto not moving having his feet in the air while obito dashed at him and then you, combat [which shocked me] said that he is faster....if i were to play at the same game i would say Itachi is capable of dodging ay also because he instantly reached to where naruto dashed to on page 6-7........

@Asian....he clearly didn't use that level of speed against the kamui spammer so that's kinda the reason why i said what i said.