Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200109085137

Minato only let Obito get that close because he had planned what he was going to do before running at him a second time. Minato had to let Obito get close enough so Obito would feel assured of victory and remain tangible, so Minato could then TP and then give him the quick Rasengan. Didn't mean that, I was saying, do you tink if Minato didn't teleport to his kunai in mid air he would have struck Obito before getting warped?

To be fair, we haven't really seen Obito engage much with numerous opponents ONLY focused on him, there is usually some other diversion or teammate going on to distract the main cast. Obito mainly chilled behind the scenes manipulating and playing mindgames.

But, on one of the few occasions we do see him fight multiple people, we've already seen what he would do in that situation. Why would he send Kakashi to the Kamui dimension when facing multiple people? The reason I've thought of for this is that he tried to save Kakashi for later (to pierce his heart), but it's kind of dumb since he jeopardised his most important ability: his intangibility. I would think that he would go into his dimension and take them on by themselves to make it easier.

But if Nagato was the person he did this to, he can't really do much to him. Obito is a sitting duck without his Kamui/intangibility. And even if it was easier to use genjutsu on people in Kamui, it wouldn't work on Nagato. He has the Rinnegan which is highly resistant to visual genjutsu. Even if Obito didn't have control over his dimension Nagato till loses if he is transferred into kamui given that Obito can just leave him there (if no clones are involved)

I think that rule of Kamui getting faster only applies if its the original eyes together, both the Left eye and Right eye. It wouldn't make sense if Orange-Mask Obito made three clones and they all used their collective 3 Right Eyes to make Kamui move faster. They'd be creating three separate portals. And just for argument's sake, let's say they could speed up the rate of Kamui together, they would have to all be right next to Nagato ready to suck him up, since the Right eye can only use Kamui short-range.

Regardless, Nagato would Shinra Tensei all of them the moment they get close to him, and the clones would die, revealing the real Obito.

I don't see the problem in using Shadow Clones in this argument. It is an established feat of Nagato, he has shown the ability to use Shadow Clones as early as the Original Akatsuki, and has the chakra to utilise them well. He only didn't use them as Pain since he was emaciated and immobile, and the Paths were essentially permanent Shadow Clones, and wouldn't poof once a certain amount of chakra had been used up. Even characters like Sarada and Konohamaru have used Shadow Clones lol.

If anything, Nagato is the second best character for using Shadow Clones, next to Naruto. His whole playstyle throughout the entire series involves multiples of himself fighting multiple people. Actually I think Obito's clones would be better, he has wood relase so he can make wood clones, while Nagato has to use shadow clones, and Naruto in kurama mode showed back Tendo with the knockback meaning that there is some sort of interaction with the body of the caster, so the clones could no be able to use shinra tensei, and considering that we're using new possibility what about Obito using Kamui to teleport just a part of the body and not the whole thing? An arm the fist time, then a leg and then an hole in the chest

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about the Danzo thing, and whether Obito can attack in his immortality phase of Kamui. Lets say that Obito can kill someone whilst immortal, and its not still "illusion" or whatever. I still think that Soul-Steal would work on Obito, it's just that once Soul Steal is used, Obito disppears and re-appears somewhere else. So the technique could still execute, it just wouldn't kill Obito in the immortality timeframe. It's also like how Soul-Steal would still work on Edo-Tensei zombies. It would rip the soul out of the fake body. Soul steal isn't istantaneous tho, Obito will be able to use Kamui if they both touch each other