Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-9782468-20200430144045

@Legion I mean it would be nice to have an example lol, but I guess I'll take your word for it.

"False in the sense that it isn't up to date." No false in the sense that his material there that is no longer considered canon.

I was of the assumption they did it because there was confusion about where everything landed, considering there was a timeskip all the way to his Hokage days, and then there was other novels where he was 19, etc. Even a novel between those two times before Kakashi became Hokage. So if people were wondering when they'd take place in the story, there they were.

Yeah I do believe Itachi would try to take Madara out. Because as the others on this thread love to mention, he literally threatened Madara's life lol. With every intent to deliver. And he did this without knowing the extent of his abilities. So yeah.

A peaceful death is as easy as a quick Genjutsu for Pain and awareness and then cutting her throat, doesn't need to be the most taxing version of one of his most taxing jutsu lol.

Ah. Well, personally, I put the anime and the novel around the same level in my head, in that whichever one makes most sense in the Manga story to me is the one that has more validity.

When Obito laid immobile, Minato had to stop Kakashi from killing him. And about Rin, he was at that point in his development as a kid. He at first was a kid who only followed Shinobi rules. Once Obito died, he became one who would never choose sacrificing his friend. Then as he grew older, this rule became just a tad less ironclad as he gained experience and practicality.

Against Sasuke, yeah. He said one more time to give it up (You know, as the good guys do. Give em one last chance). And when Sasuke refused, Kakashi resolved to kill him.

Ope, thought you did for some reason, my b.

Jiraiya, in parallel to Naruto, could never give up on trying to save his teammate. Literally part of their character.

Yeah Hashirama probably killed most of his opponents, but again his entire character is an idealist. And you can twist the situation if you like, but in one scene he's willing to die to stop the bloodshed and bring peace. In the other, he's willing to kill Madara to stop the bloodshed and bring peace. It's not, one moment he's willing to die for Madara then the next he's willing to kill him. And no, I don't think it's odd that Hashirama, the idealist, would wage several landscape-changing fights with Madara to try to stop him before finally thinking he couldn't change him and ending him. After all he did grow up in war. I'm surprised it took him that long but again, in parallel to Naruto, he couldn't give up on his comrade, but to show Naruto's resolve, he eventually was shown to have to whereas Naruto was the first to succeed in bringing his friend back.

Again, Zabuza still carried on to try to accomplish his mission as best as he could, without wasting time for sentiment. Itachi had several ways to give Izumi a painless death, but decided on the most taxing version of one of his most taxing jutsu at the very start of the night of killing everyone?

Huh, guess I don't remember Nagato's plan that well.

Yeah because Jiraiya isn't Naruto, and it's part of Naruto's character specifically to change the hearts of his opponents. Also to succeed where his mentors failed.

I didn't even bring Nagato into this discussion, so how would I accuse him of anything? I think Nagato was more swayed by realizing that even after all the pain, after losing his whole village and his mentor, and his teacher, Naruto was still forging on unshaken. He assumed that once experiencing pain, people would think like him but upon seeing someone go through this sort of pain and remain unshaken in their beliefs, that's what swayed Nagato. Also considering it's Naruto's role to change people in the story, ya know.

He did let it get in the way of his efficiency, he wasted a huge chunk of chakra on the very first person.

That's another reason it's OoC imo. Happened in a material other than the manga and it's an unprecedented one time thing. I mean, Itachi is COLD. He may have cared for Izumi, but he loved his brother more than anything. And he tortured the absolute mess out of him and poured so much hatred into his heart. SO yeah, I believe Itachi, in that stiuation with Izumi, would at most give her a painless death and an apology.

Considering the feat occurred in one media and didn't occur in the other, that's a contradiction since it's its only instance, no?

@Jason, i guess you missed where I said "Anyways, reality is he does have the feat, in the novels." That's about as truthful as it gets. But you did have that habit of ignoring arguments whenever.... well I don't actually no why exactly, maybe you just miss them.