Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20151221021631/@comment-27418151-20160106213754

AsianReaper wrote: Madara didn't create the Uchiha. The war between Senju and Uchiha was going on before Hashi and Madara even reached adulthood.

I think you mean "destroyer."

Itachi had help killing the Uchiha clan too. He did it with Obito.

Does Madara have any feats at all with Genjutsu?

Personally I'd say Madara. As skilled as Itachi is, Madara has skill AND overwhelming stamina to back it up. And truth be told, I doubt Itachi's Yata mirror can block Tengai Shinsei (Giant meteor thing). I think Madara just overwhelms Itachi here. Itachi may be slightly more skilled, but Madara is one of the most skilled shinobi ever, and he has enough chakra to battle Hashirama to exhaustion. so far I know only madara rinnegan could use tengai shinsei,I think he is talking about EMS Madara.I believe that madara would win,since he was said to be the strongest uchiha of all time.