Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190315034807/@comment-9782468-20190510042901

Quadraticequation wrote: I didn’t respond to this one because I didn’t have any counterargument. Pretty much my only argument is that before Minato’s kunai could even touch B, Bee’s blade was pressed against Minato’s navel, giving me the sense that his reactions were faster. As for Jiraiya, Sage Naruto outreacted the 3rd Raikage, giving me the feeling that Jiraiya had enough reflexes to trap B in his road crush summonings. His only problem would be B’s TBB. But, this might be considered cheating though, Jiraiya can reverse summon himself to Mt. Myoboku every time he blasts a TBB. When he launches a close range attack that’s when he gets him. But if Jiraiya was fast enough to keep up with Pain, B shouldn’t be a problem. Looking at the panel, Bee never touched Minato. You can see the shadow of Bee's sword on Minato's flak jacket; they don't touch, so the sword never touched Minato.

Also Minato wasn't even trying to hurt Bee, remember. He was trying to teach Ay something. He underestimated Bee's instincts, but he wasn't going for the kill. Bee on the other hand, had every reason to go for the kill if he could.

Sage Naruto has sensing, which is how he reacted to the Raikage. Sage Jiraiya does not have sensing; his Sage mode is imperfect and has demonstrated lack of Naruto's sensing.

I do think Jiraiya would fair the best against Ay than any other opponent here though. His AoE techs can help counter Ay's speed, and his hair defense can protect him even if Ay gets the drop on him (idk how long the hair defense would last though