Talk:Guren

Where did all the information about her techniques come from? --ShounenSuki 22:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Would a better name for crystal prison be "Crystal Release, Giant Crstal Darts"? "Crystal prison" doesn't really go with the anime, and it didn't look like Goren was trying to imprison Kabuto...--NejiByakugan360 22:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)NejiByakugan360

Dear, Kesshou no Kakurou wasn't used in Shippuuden 89 but in Shippuuden 87, in the preview. The technique in 89 is listed as Crystal Release: Snowflake Shuriken. --Shinsaku 22:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, i know, I am the one that sort of came up with the name snowflake shuriken and put it on narutopedia...thanks alot though--NejiByakugan360 22:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Do you at least agree with the name i figured out? I'm not sure if it is too good...--NejiByakugan360 22:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Woops, I made a mistake X'D You meant the technique she used with the falling crystal thingies. I didn't get that. I'm fine with Giant Crystal Darts, though. --Shinsaku 22:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

So can we change it?--NejiByakugan360 22:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Ofcourse :'D --Shinsaku 23:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorta new at this stuff, so could you change it? Thanks!--NejiByakugan360 23:17, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Techniques
We currently have no information about her techniques: it is mostly just guessing. That's why there are so many 'it might be's' and so on in the articles about her techniques. It are all theories, but since we may indicate we are getting information about the topics soon, the pages where created at forehand. (And sorry if you don't understand me 'cuz my English sucks). --User:Shinsaku 22:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * What about that Crystal Release? Is that speculation as well? --ShounenSuki 22:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Crystal Release
Crystal Release is not entirely speculation: we saw a preview of the upcoming arc in Shippuuden 87, and there Goren used a technique called Shouton: Kesshou no Kakurou (Crystal Release, Prison of Crystals or something like that). Now it was my theory Shouton could be a mix of Doton and Raiton, so I put that on the article - as a theory.--Shinsaku 22:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

well, i definitely know it has to deal with earth style chakra, but im not so sure about lightning. At first, I thought it cud be earth and ice, only ice is a mixture of water and wind. But since crystal release seems pretty rare and extrodinary, maybe this might be a jutsu where it involves more than two chakra natures together. --AMTNinja 18:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Name
So... what's her name? Goren or Guren? Does anyone have the kanji/kana of her name? --ShounenSuki 18:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

well, in the episode they spelled her name as Guren, but Goren is correct to. it all depends on how u prfer! its just like "shippuden" and "shippuuden" --AMTNinja 18:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It doesn't work that way. "Shippuden" is simply "shippūden" without the macron. The macron denotes a lengthened vowel, which is written out completely in "shipuuden". This is why "shippuuden" and "shippuden" are the same.
 * This doesn't work for "Goren" and "Guren" as the vowels are completely different. --ShounenSuki 18:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

u completely miss the point.... im saying its all on how u prefer it, considering goren and guren are both the same.
 * No, you're missing my point. Goren and Guren are not the same. --ShounenSuki 18:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Well lets see how this breaks down. First note, fansubs are bad decider's on how to spell things, that being said I believe dattebayo uses "Guren", afact, I have absolutely no clue where "Goren" came from, her name is clearly pronounced as "Guren".

Is there even a word in japanese with the romaji "Goren"? I have no clue if there is, however, I do know for a fact that the word exists in Japanese (Gurren Lagann).

So, for now I'm moving the page to "Guren", because no-one has given a citation to Goren. "Guren" has been used by one group, it matches the pronunciation of the name, and it actually exists as a word in japanese. However, until we get some sort of actual kanji or the like, we might want to leave "crimson" out of the article. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 22, 2008 @ 18:42 (UTC)

yeah, in all the episodes ive cheked they havent once used goren, and yeah, guren sounds eexactly as its pronounced and has a literal meaning. --AMTNinja 18:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)