Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26773508-20151025215449

LoneNinja wrote: @Bakumatsu although i see your point however it contradicts itself due the fact Kishi has specified. He put "sealing anything" in the description of the technique therefore anything that gets pierced by it is sealed away. However i don't know if the sword is capable of piercing through Susanoo. It would certainly be an awesome fight to watch a Susanoo Madara vs a Susanoo Itachi and tbh i like Itachi's chances cause of his quick thinking and tactical skills. He always found a way to victory. Madara as well, i consider them both the top dogs of the Uchiha. Although if anything can have enough force to pierce a Susanoo it'd be another Susanoo. Anyways back on topic. Jiraiya had to wait a long time to even summon Ma and Pa which is probably mentioned above in another post, without them, no Genjutsu and no Sage because Jiraiya always used them for Sage. The terrain is definitely important in this fight. If there is a possibility that Jiraiya can run away and hide long enough then that is a possibility, however in a clearing, I don't see Jiraiya evading Itachi's Genjutsu. Once he is distracted in Genjutsu i don't see him dodging Amaterasu. I honestly don't see Jiraiya winning this fight even though he is one of my favorite characters of all time. Itachi is just too over-stacked with abilities and has a higher advantage. I honestly don't even think the Genutsu of Ma and Pa would even work, its a limited technique that they can use and Itachi can reverse Genjutsu by using his sharingan to recognize the functions of the Genjutsu then reverse it back at the opponent. I don't even see Jiraiya summoning's of the giant toads helping him cause of Amaterasu. I know it is said that Itachi has low Chakra Reserves but Itachi during his fight with Sasuke showed tremendous reserves and although i want Jiraiya to win, i just don't see how. Isn't it interesting how in the middle of Shippuden it was said that you have to stay absolutely still to collect natural energy? Both Jiraiya and Naruto had to find creative ways to stay in Sage Mode, which made their SM rather limited. Then comes Hashirama who executes Sage Mode as though it was some ordinary B-rank jutsu in difficulty. To my knowledge, Kishi still hasn't explained why the limitations faced by Jiraiya and pre-Hagoromo Naruto didn't apply to Hashirama. If Jiraiya had the ability to use Sage Mode as easily as Hashi, then Itachi would have faced severe disadvantages. But for some reason Jiraiya needs a lot of time to go into SM.