Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170128170340/@comment-3965545-20170204194447

Hashirama wasn't even using Sage Mode when he he was initially fighting Madara, he was in Base and only when Madara told him he wasn't going to stop did he tell him he was getting serious and used Sage Mode. Madara needed Kurama and even that didn't help him get a win.