Forum:Concerning Talk Pages

Prior to this Itachi Abilities Section debate, I generally thought Talk Page sections resolve themselves but this one seems to have no end in sight as more anonymous users seem to pile in continue the discussion but adding in nothing that actually matters. I was thinking, why not do what Bleach wiki has done. Once a decision has been made or action taken, have a box at the top of said discussion announce the decision/action and that no more posts should be made and that no one should be adding posts to the thread anymore. Of course if a person has something to actually add besides opinion(unless the thread is calling for that) or forum like posts then they could just make another thread if the box had been put up prior to their info. This could be used only for example in the Itachi Ability discussion when a section has already been handled and is just being used a forum which we are not a forum.

Examples of what I am talking about:

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Zanpakutō

http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Ulquiorra_CiferUmishiru (talk) 23:49, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

The Avatar wiki has something similar. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:51, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

You sure? It seems they got rid of talk pages in favor for a comments section.Umishiru (talk) 23:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea.--Deva 27 23:58, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Back when they had talk pages, those were used. I know, I used them myself when I was still a bureaucrat there. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:05, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm yes. I saw those too, and I liked what they had done. Although at first I thought that may be taking too much voice away from the visitors and contributors, sometimes talk pages just get all wordy and pretty much useless. I read through old discussions and think they could've been ended so much earlier; people continue to comment even after their answer is given through a manga or databook citation. I'm in favor of closing discussions when resolved. --GoDai (talk) 00:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hum if i may...i don't really on one hand like the idea of the Bleach wiki for here...sometimes (Even with the dilligence of the older editores) certain things old and new maybe missed...and when someone picks up on it they won't have a place to discuss it because it's closed...maybe just... i don't know block these users who don't do anything more than curse and troll? I understand it's difficult to bear but it'll be worse to just block when someone wants to discuss something and won't be able to. Darksusanoo (talk) 01:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Its as simple as creating a new thread. And as Godai said some of them should have ended shorter than they currently are. If someone has something to add after the fact they can still create a thread.Umishiru (talk) 03:12, August 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't forget to think about how our discussions usually are here. Typically, as long as people remember them, they can go on and on for weeks at a time. Sometimes an action is done purely to force the discussion to continue (against the rules mind you, but it has happened). Food for thought.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 03:35, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't care of a discussion last for 5 years as long as something pertaining to the page is being discussed and both sides have something to back them up. What we don't need, as the Itachi talk page is showing, is a bunch of random users continue a talk because they don't like how Kishi has treated his characters, this site isn't a forum and it sure isn't a forum for angry fans. As I said this method if used, could be used as a last resort if like the Itachi page it degrades into flaming and or into a forum of personal speculation and anger. If they want to do that then they have the Naruto Fanon wiki for that and actual forums to do that not to mention the personal talk pages.All they do is clutter up the talk pages.Umishiru (talk) 04:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure how it'll actually stop people from posting or us the need to remove said posts after they do so. But it is possible perhaps for us to have a "cut off" point where a sysop or anyone will say this is becoming a forum discussion and we aren't supposed to respond the the person's posts anymore. But then again that template could serve that purpose I suppose. I really don't know where I stand on this, though it's certainly not detrimental.--Cerez365™ 04:25, August 9, 2011 (UTC)