Talk:Shisui Uchiha

Video Game debut
Does anyone remember if he was mentioned in Ultimate Ninja Impact? That's the debut for Kotoamatsukami, and I highly doubt they would have mentioned the genjutsu without mentioning the user. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:09, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

10 year interval
For it to be known Kotoamatsukami can only be used once a decade Shisui would need to have awakened his Mangekyo at least prior to his death right?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 03:37, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, so?--Elveonora (talk) 10:12, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you're going to suggest ten years prior to his death, no, we don't know. It is possible that these techniques are hereditary, just the way that Saskue and Itachi possess the same set of abilities and they all knew beforehand that it would take that long.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:53, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

But that's wrong since it's been stated to be unique to Shisui, can you imagine how valuable would another pair of eyes with Kotoamatsukami be? There isn't/wasn't any. So the OP is more than likely right, Shisui already had his doujutsu circa a decade prior his death, tho I still don't see what it has to do with anything--Elveonora (talk) 11:01, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Now hold one second, it was never proven SHISUI could only use it every 10 years. Itachi may have stated it took 10 years to be used again without H.Senju's DNA, BUT I think he meant it would take 10 years for THE CROW to use it again... It makes NO sense for Shisui himself to be able to use the technique with both of his eyes and have it not be able to use for 10 years... Shisui tried to use it that day on the WHOLE clan, and if he can use it only once a day, then that is why he couldn't use it again and then Itachi was given the eye he used and put it in the crow, the crow can only use it every 10 years.... that makes more sense than anything 96.241.55.117 (talk) 03:18, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Btw Itachi was just about 11-11.5yrs when Shisui gave him that eye and died and then he awakened his Mangekyo, so 11 plus 10 equals?? 21.. his Databook 3 age which is why he couldn't use it on Sasuke.. the crow could not use it but every 10 years. 96.241.55.117 (talk) 03:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Reading the manga over, he doesn't say that the ability works every ten years, just the eye itself, which was in the crow. I guess, it was us who misunderstood what he meant. Logically, by evidence alone, we have enough to change up what we have put on Kotoamatsukami and Shisui's page. "Unlike Shisui, those who obtain the power unnaturally .... blah....blah....blah..." JaZZBaND (talk) 06:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly, I am glad you see it too. 96.241.55.117 (talk) 22:22, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Shisui's body
I have a doubt: Earlier in Naruto and according to the Konoha Police Force, Shisui was found drowned in the Naka River but much later after the timeskip, Itachi said that Shisui erased his existence and his body was never found. What happened? Dragon NJMB (talk) 06:15, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * If true, then likely a retcon--Elveonora (talk) 09:56, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yashiro never said that they found his body, just that he drowned himself in the Nakano River; these are all things that could have been put in a suicide note.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:06, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * But I'm still bothered with the sentence: "Shisui was found..". That means that someone saw the body. If not the case, Yashiro should say: "Shisui is dead, Shisui is nowhere or something similar." Dragon NJMB (talk) 00:48, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * They never said Shisui's body was found though. It's a mistranslation that shouldn't even be in the article.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:49, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

about his arm again
Related to above topic and this was already discussed at least once, but according to this http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Shisui_Uchiha/Archive_1#Corpse_found_or_no_corpse_found.3F both are true statements in manga but latest edits by Cerez indicate it was mistranslation? Because there's no way Danzo could have had Shisui's arm without his corpse being found since the last time we see Shisui before dying, he has both arms.--Elveonora (talk) 13:26, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * It is never stated that Danzo has Shisui's arm. The only thing Danzo or anyone else said he took from Shisui was his eye. There was some mention of Danzo's Sharingan possessing Shisui's chakra but they never say the exact nature of it or what that means.--Soul reaper (talk) 13:49, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ao said Danzo's Shisui eye and arm had the same chaka--Elveonora (talk) 14:10, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow! That's right! What do you propose we do? JaZZBaND (talk) 20:13, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * check again the raws/viz to make sure Cerez's edit was correct? They either found his body or didn't. If the latter, a trivia mention or something should be brought up that Danzo somehow got access to his arm, suggesting he was in possession of Shisui's corpse or something. But that thing is right, Danzo having Shisui's arm was never stated, but then we would be left with whole another problem as of why his Hashi arm had Shisui's chakra--Elveonora (talk) 20:43, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure we've checked the raw before regarding the arm. Funny how this seems to be a rather recurring topic, it resurfaces from time to time. All the translations I have ever read mentioned that the arm was Shisui's. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:06, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * how was his corpse not found then?--Elveonora (talk) 22:12, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Could simply be a plot hole. Maybe Danzō ambushed Shisui after Itachi finished helping him, or watched from a distance to see what he did with the body and salvaged the arm. IDK. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:29, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps the wording should be changed a little bit, leaving space for personal interpretation since nothing was confirmed about him in fact having the arm, only the chakra comment suggests it. So rather than "Danzo had/stole Shisui Uchiha's arm" it should state "Ao noted the chakras to be familiar and made an allude to Shisui, suggesting it might also have belonged to him" etc. An unlikely scenario as is could possibly be that Hashirama and Shisui had the same or very similar chakra signature and color--Elveonora (talk) 22:36, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, I can't find any mention of him having Shisui's arm anymore, so it's a no-issue at this point. Looks like someone has already taken care of that--Elveonora (talk) 23:04, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to speculate that both sentences are correct, seeing as they could be. i mean shisui could have drowned himself in the river, the uchiha clan could have recovered his body, an sometime near after the body could have come up missing or stolen. however this is all just my speculation Iowndisciti (talk) 17:36, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

The interval problem
Alright, I shall re-open this discussion.

Itachi's statement is as clear as it can get. Kotoamatsukami can't be used for another decade without Hashirama's cells. There is no mention of who can use it only every ten years, may it be the crowd or Shisui. Therefore it would be plain wrong to add that only the crowd can use it every decade. Seelentau 愛議 14:43, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed here. Not too sure where else it's mentioned.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:12, December 9, 2013 (UTC)