Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20171113213649/@comment-31099706-20171119013022

@AsianReaper.If Naruto closes his eyes for the battle, then it'll obviously increase the chance for Itachi to strike him.

Yes, Madara did show the feat with sage mode.But remember who he was.He was a just revived enhanced with Hashi cells body.He also had SP chakra due to him awakening Rinnegen.And he was an Uchiha.As in he dodged alot of Sasuke's attacks with his skills.You know the flexible/gymnastic/Acrobatic fighting style most of the Uchihas have.Yes, he was able to only sense it because of Sage mode.But even then, his skills helped him alot.Just saying.Do you think adult Sage Mode Naruto is stronger than that Madara?In terms of skills that is.

Um, well, Obito used those TSBs to protect himself from the Ten tail's tailed beast balls blast, without it even breaking.So what would you say about that? Is Naruto's Rasengan stronger than the Ten tails TBB? Well,I off course think that there really is a power difference in both of they're TSBs.At one side, you have the most powerful form possible.Even stronger than the Sage.The Ten tails Jinchuriki mode.And then there is a person with probably equal strength to Hamura.So yeah, I think there is a difference.

Um, I think the difficulty/mastery level of a jutsu goes to on from yourself to your clones.Like for instance.Naruto at first couldn't do it without his clones.And after and after he shown to be able to do it without his clones in modes and then shown mastery with it at base.Yet he never showed his clones to be able to use RS without any higher modes than SM.You can only have assumptions about it. While if you can agree on it.Then I guess you won't have a problem with acknowledging Itachi's shadow clones being able to use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.Considering he showed mastery with shadow clones as well.As a kid, he was able to use it on the fly.And as his skills and talent goes.He should be able to do it, right?

Well, even if a situation comes with Itachi being infront of RS, then can't he just repel it back with a mix of amaterasu and fire release?Since as a Wind release jutsu,RS is also quite open to being send back at the user with a equally strong fire release.Which woukd be amaterasu.As Sasuke did it with his sharingan, helping him in pacing up the ratio.So wouldn't it backfire at Naruto?

I know that this isn't that debate.But still, I was just pointing out a point.

Doesn't everybody in the series know that Sharingan is not be looked at?It just so happens that everyone falls for it.As one can only control himself like that for a short time.Just as the necessary "Two person against one Uchiha" guideline came.Guy had to train himself at fighting with just feet, for who knows how long?And interestinly Bee already knew about the sharingan.Yet he fell for it, wonder how that came to be?And I believe, he was never given the info about the Jinchuriki Immunity at then.Not that, anyone even thought of using Genjutsu on him.

And one more thing,I think it's fact that Naruto's training obviously stopped in after the movie.As he progresses on to be Hokage.Which results in him being less and less in training and become, as would some people say, a bit rusty.I think it's already been said by Boruto in the manga.That if you don't keep on training you will lose your ability or something to that rich kid, while training him.So yeah, I don't think judging Hokage Naruto to be way stronger than Last movie Naruto would be appropriate, just because of the age difference.Since as I said, he probably didn't train between that period onwards.

And I have to agree on @Vlad.About the Susanoo thing.It seemed a bit off, for Itachi to have susanoo amount of chakra even with his sick state, and after alot of chakra expensive jutsus with a couple of fire releases and other genjutsus.That and him already possesing only a naturally small amount of chakra. Sasuke should have atleast how much chakra he had left,considering for the susanoo, it should be alot. But I guess, it could have been the powerscale difference between shippuden and the orginal series, like for the one tails and the summonings.

Did Itachi even react to Kirin? I really don't think so.As others have pointed out.I think Itachi merely prepared his susanoo when Sasuke lowered his hands, in the most dramatic way, possible.I guess by then, everything went too bright for even Sasuke to see.And thay would be the moment Itachi releases susanoo.As we see, Itachi scared face becomes more and more consumed in brightness of Kirin.Though, Susanoo has shown in many scenes, to be instant in it's activation.Against Danzo,Sasuke activated it at the same second, the kunai came close.And against Raiakage as well.

@Ninjachris.I really don't even think there is a real clan named Namikaze.Let alone have genetics for speed, strengtth and intellegence.

Naruto's whole character was that he never properly inherited anything from his parents.Thus being talentless.Admitting that to the sage as well.His only main help was his chakra supply partly from Kurama and partly from Uzumaki heritage.

And I really don't think Naruto nor Sasuke gets anything being transmigrants.I actually believe that it's more of a destiny/personality thing.Or else, Naruto and Sasuke should have been as strong as their preceders as children.Yet they werent.I really just think, it gives them  some chakra feats and all.Not much than that, I guess.

And obviously, Hashi was a whole different case, with his wood release and his chakra supply.Naruto most likely isn't the same case.

These are all my opinions.And I most likely won't reply back.So Peace.