Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170125144949/@comment-27924662-20170428070311

First of all Rinne-Sharingan has 3 jutsu. 2 of which can be negated by the use of rinnegan(with TB power of course). But what abt Rinnegan side of jutsu? Rinne-Sharingan Cannot stop any of them. XShadyShadow wrote:

1) I didn't write an essay, I copied a paragraph from the translated databook and it includes invisibility of Limbo, but the point I was making is that Limbo could potentially do ninjutsu, the same as Madara. Were they shown to use ninjutsu? Because I don't remember them using any. XShadyShadow wrote: 2) Naruto didn't disprove anything, his clones and Madara's Limbos went head to head for one panel, what happened next was Sasuke hiding himself and Naruto under Susano'o with his clones being gone and Limbo clones being perfectly fine in which indicates Naruto's clones lost. If anything that proves that Shadow clones are indeed inferior to Limbo clones, even Sasuke told Naruto not to leave his Susano'o because Madara's Limbo clones were waiting outside. If Limbo clones could be beaten by Shadow clones then I'm certain this would've happened and Sasuke wouldn't have been worried about them. Especially at the end when they surrounded Team 7. Naruto's clones still dispersed after taking a certain amount of damage. Limbo clones have to actually be sealed, BIG difference. Not at all on contrary in the panel they kept fighting till IT started. After that their fate wasn't shown(And you know what happens in IT.) XShadyShadow wrote:

3) You were proven wrong. Limbo clones >> Shadow clones. Try again. I wasn't. Infact if Limbo had been so effective than Naruto and sasuke would have been forced to fight them on their own. But that didn't happen, Because of which Madara was forced to use plan B the meteorites to delay them. XShadyShadow wrote:

4) Hagoromo had the Dual Rinnegan+MS in which were the true contributors to him and Hamura beating Kaguya, him activating Susano'o during battle was a testament to this. I highly doubt his physical attributions played a serious role, he's featless regarding physical strength and speed. Just admit that in terms of taijutsu from what we've seen, Madara has the better feats and showings along with Limbo useage. Featless or not. He beat Kaguya without power up or Biju, That puts his base leagues ahead of Madara. And since the power-up because of Bijus is same it's clear that base would matter.