Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36022015-20180805045309

I think that this would be an interesting fight that I have not seen talked about before so I decided to bring it up. I will set certain conditions based on each character's situation; Boruto when he fights Kawaki (we obviously dont know much but I'll use what I can) and Naruto when he fights Pain. Before I lay out the conditions it should be important to note that while Boruto's potential is extremely high, there is no way at this point (ep 67 and chapter 25) to fully understand his abilities or possible capabilities (i.e. maybe he learns sage mode or something). Thus, to make this an interesting fight I will try not to make big assumptions of Boruto abilities and only use information that we know of. With that said that conditions are...

Boruto:

- Ability to use Jogan: We obviously do not know a whole lot about it, but I will lay out the abilities that we do know. To make it fair *since we do not know a lot and I do not want to make big assumptions* I think it would be fair to see it as a slightly better byakugan with other cool abilities *that do not necessarily contribute that much to the fight*. Abilities include, being able to see chakra system/points, sensing dark chakra, and some form of dimension travel.

- Ability to use Karma: Like the Jogan we do not know a lot about this, but I am going to use information from the manga *mainly chapter 25* to make a reasonable extent of this seal. *Here is where it gets tangled up* Chapter 25 shows that Kawaki's Karma has the ability to absorb jutsu and fire it back (which is similar to the abilities of Momoshiki). Considering that Boruto was the one who LITERALLY KILLED MOMOSHIKI, I do not think that it is that big of an assumption to make that Boruto's karma will probably do the same thing. We kind of saw it when he protected his team from a blast let off by Kawaki as his Karma was activated.

Edit: I think that this is one of the key things to this fight that I should talk about a little more. I think that the most simple assumption to make about the karma is that it functions like Kawaki's in that is absorbs and releases. Also, the fact that Boruto has these cool abilities that we have never seen before was like most of the reason why I wanted to do this. So, even though this assumption could be a stretch I would encourage readers to make this assumption. However, if this reallllyyy triggers you and you just cannot take that leap then just do not include the karma seal in your reply, but make sure you note that and make it clear

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-All ninjutsu/taijutsu moves/techinques and their applicable chakra nature used thus far in anime/manga: Obviously 16 year old Boruto will probably have mastered more justu compared to his 12 year old self but for the sake of not making assumptions that can ruin the integrity of the fight we will just stick with it. Some notable ones are boruto stream and gale palm, hence his lighting and wind natures. Also in ep 65 we saw Boruto's vanishing rasengan where he was able to combine his lighting chakra nature and the rasengan a feat that not even kakashi could do.Also remember that Boruto is of the Hyuga clan as well and has shown some solid taijutsu abilities.

Naruto

- Ability to use Sage Mode: Not much to say here, I think that sage mode made the pain fight even more memorable. However, an important factor here is the fact that Naruto had two shadow clones at Mount Myoboku. For the sake of simplicity, we will keep that number at two because that was his limit. So I guess with that said, we'll give him that scroll thing as well to reverse summon those clones.

-All ninjutsu/taijutsu moves/techinques and their applicable chakra nature used at the point of the fight: This obviously includes the rasenshuriken, rasengan, shadow clones, etc. He can also use the summoning jutsu as well.

- Ability to harness Kurama chakra but to a degree: I think that it is reasonable to put some sort of cap on the Kurama chakra because I don't think there is any shinobi who can take on a gigantic tailed beast and win. It is just really not fair in my opinion, so I think it would be reasonable to put a cap on it. He is not in full control of Kurama yet (not until he trains with Bee), so that cannot be given to him. I think that a fair cap where he is still conscious while also using the Kurama chakra would be the cloak state with maximum of one tail. I understand that the seal was weakening and the only reason that he was able to maintain a cloaked state *with one tail* was because the seal was stronger. Thus, there would be a higher probability of Naruto going straight to something like five or six tails instead of just one at this point during his fight with Pain. However, I think that this is a necessary change and I do not really see any other way around it.

Outside factors

- Normal Chakra Levels: Meaning that Naruto would probably have way more than Boruto

- No physical impediments: I say this mainly becase we see that Boruto has like a scar on his eye, and so JUST IN CASE -- In this fight each character is fine physically

- No emotional triggers: Mainly saying this because of the Kurama Chakra thing. Naruto would reach his cloaked state not from any outside emotion (i.e. Hinata being put down in front him), but instead from the stress of the battle.

- Location is Destroyed Konoha: Cus why not, both fights occur there so might as well.

- Killer mindset: Naruto would never try to fight his son, nor would Boruto try to fight his Dad. So for the sake of the fight let's just assume that they are trying to end each other and do not know each other.

- No previous knowledge beforehand: Makes sure that there is no way that this fight could be contoured towards fighting style beforehand, and that they come in not knowing anything about each other

- typical array of ninja tools: Just the stuff that either one would bring to any fight. However it is worth noting that Boruto was shown wielding a blade in his fight against Kawaki, so he should have it in his fight against Naruto. Also for the sake of not making big assumptions, we will just say that Boruto is an average swordsman.

Let me know what you think 