Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-38812954-20190831032416/@comment-9782468-20190919205548

No, you aren't accepting evidence to the contrary of your imagination.

Again, broad, over-generalizing, and just wrong.

Empathizing doesn't mean I agree with you. Just because you see two sides, doesn't mean I have to agree, yet somehow you're getting worked up about "factual thinkers" because I don't agree with you.

"And not just be opinionated and superficial and see it as a fact that you would never get any better at what you're trying to do."

This is your example? That's literally an opinion and not fact-based at all. Fact based would be knowing if someone's technique at say, violin wasn't very good. But saying they'd never get better isn't a fact-based thing like you're claiming. Being opinionated isn't a bad thing, you just gotta remember to keep them separate from facts.

For example, it's my opinion that rock music is better than country music. But that doesn't make rock music objectively better, and I know that. The only real thing you can objectively judge about both is the technical skill displayed.

I already addressed this point. As Sasuke gathers his chakra to the point where it'd be anywhere powerful enough to be dangerous, Naruto senses it and responds. You say he's in a position where he doesn't have time to respond, but why is that? He's physically faster than Sasuke and has sensing and predictive abilities far above the Sharingan. He already reacted to Sasuke trying to use it as a surprise attack, not as a built up attack. And guess what happened? Naruto blocked it, without even using Sage Mode.

"My facts" They're not mine lol. I don't own facts. They're just pieces of evidence from the series.

Flame Control, no matter what the form, has less piercing properties than Lightning Release. That's why Sasuke's strongest attack was Indra's Arrow, not some beam of Amaterasu.

What you're calling "deeper insight" isn't deeper insight. It's called grasping at straws.

You're not seeing new things based on things you've already seen. You're seeing things that wouldn't make sense in the context of the series but would look cool.

Sasuke can't put the necessary force behind the attack, because that's how the story depicts Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto is the brute force and raw power, Sasuke is the cunning and tactical fighter. They're not suddenly going to beat each other at their own game.

I'm not totally wrong about Amaterasu (it's interesting how you're so annoyed by factual thinkers, yet you keep claiming your opinion as fact).

How did Naruto avoid the 4th Raikage? he was faster. How did Naruto avoid the Third Raikage? He sensed him. How did Naruto avoid Naruto's Limbo Clone? He sensed him coming. And Naruto can't see Limbo Clones, so you know he wasn't expecting it, but he dodged it anyways. So yeah, Naruto would sense the build up of chakra and react accordingly.

It doesn't matter if he sees it spam on Sasuke's hand, he can still sense chakra. This guy landed in Konoha and could tell out of everyone in the village, Kakashi was not there. His senses are that refined in Toad Sage Mode. He's going to sense a massive surge of chakra that's right in front of him.

Again, his sensing allows him predictive capabilities. He senses what Sasuke is doing with his chakra, so of course he'd beef up his chakra Avatar prior.

You literally can't tell me how Sasuke fires a technique with more force than he ever showed, even against true threats like Kaguya or Momshiki or Kinshiki or even Jigen. You literally can't, but somehow I'm wrong for pointing out that Sasuke doesn't have that firepower.

No, Juubito said he sensed Sasuke amassing chakra in his left eye. Even Nagato could sense when Itachi was going to use Amaterasu. And that was a small attack. Naruto could sense a bigger attack. And no, the view can't see Sasuke doing that because there's no panel of it. Sasuke literally just attacked out of nowhere. Didn't even run at Juubito at that point. This attack was before Naruto and Sasuke combined attacks.

No, no matter how much you want it to be, "obviousness" is not evidence.

No, your scenario is Sasuke builds up way more chakra to do a large scale attack that has less piercing capabilities than Light Fang. So no, not like your scenario.

Where do you think this force comes from? It comes from his chakra lol, are you serious? He just doesn't have the chakra necessary to blast through Naruto's defenses. Naruto can take hits from something that sliced the moon in half, without Kurama's Avatar, and with a lot of Kurama's chakra fighting independently from himself.

Sasuke doesn't have the force necessary to send an attack like that that'll have that effect like that on Naruto.

Dude. No duh Obito would be burned. That's not the point at all. The point is, as Shinobi, Amaterasu does not burn too fast for them to react and apply whatever abilities they have to escape. If they don't have what it takes to escape? Yes, they die. Or cut off the affected limb. But every Shinobi of note has been able to sufficently react to amaterasu even if the burning began on their person, like their clothes.

His mind was being controlled by Kabuto, who at the same time was managing literally every other Edo Tensei. And Kabuto is nowhere near as fast or formidable with the Rinnegan as nagato is, so that's why that's a factor. Amaterasu burned like an arm and a leg while Nagato just fell and lied there for a sec. If Nagato was in fontrol, he'd be done dispelling the flames before he hit the ground.

No, the Ten Tails very clearly did not get disintegrated.

You literally are avoiding my question, what are you on about? If Sasuke can't summon the Gedo statue, it doesn't matter.

You said I displayed short sightedness, so that's calling me short sighted. You also called me a "factual thinker" and then described all factual thinker as "short sighted" among some other oddly insulting things. I mean, I don't mind you insulting me so it doesn't matter much to me, but just because you're being indirect about it doesn't mean you aren't insulting.

Shin's weapons. Those little pieces of metal. You're using those as a feat. Lol okay.

Sasuke reacted to the fireball getting burned, so my point still stands.

Jogging pace is incredibly slow to Shinobi.

Again, it didn't display much force against the Ten Tails or its little body creations.

Uh, it didn't get through Juubito's rod so idk why that's an example you're using.

you keep bringing up Hagoromo's chakra and idk why. Let's say Sasuke is a 5 in terms of power and chakra ad Naruto is a 10. The both receive the same power up of "10" from Hagoromo. Now, Sasuke is a 15, but Naruto is now a 20. Naruto still has more in his reserves than Sasuke.

Yes, amaterasu cannot be pulled off like that in my opinion, and whatever Sasuke attempted in the same vein as your technique would fail because Sasuke's lesser firepower compared to Naruto's defenses, Naruto's sensing, and the slow burning rate of Amaterasu.

To answer your question about the Gedo (that wouldn't be summoned, but for some reason you think that me telling you your scenrarios make no sense means I don't have an argument), no, Naruto wouldn't have trouble with Gedo. considering her overpowered it with SM and just a little bit of Kurama's chakra when he was in close range to it and stabbed with a black receiver. But again, Gedo is a nonfactor unless you gimme some evidence that Sasuke can summon it out od Kaguya's dimension and still be alright to fight.