Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-9782468-20200429133930

@Snapper2 I know you're not actually invested in this bit of the discussion, so I'll only keep my points responding to it brief.

That's true! The manga doesn't have much space to talk about it, and less reason to do so with its constraints in panel space.

But he fact that the manga is limited is a good reason for the anime to put the feat in. After all, they dedicated entire arcs to things like a fabricated Asura and Indra plot, an entire alternate universe Naruto and Sasuke, etc. There's and arc for Itachi's backstory, and none of these feats were shown.

Your point regarding my argument about using Tsukuyomi rather than Amaterasu is a great one. However, if all it takes is to convince the brain to die, all he'd need to do is convince Obito's brain that Itachi killed him. So the illusion doesn't have to be Obito dying of old age, it just has to be something like Itachi appearing and killing him. If the Tsukuyomi feat works, that is. But Amaterasu has been avooidable by almost every high-level Shinobi it's been used against.

My "criteria" is simple tbh. The manga comes first, then anything else that would fit within the manga and make sense within the manga.

For example, Kakashi vs Obito was a fight that was expanded upon. Do I consider the anime fight canon even though they both performed many moves completely different than their Manga fight? Yes I do. Because it didn't do anything outlandish, it didn't give one of them some crazy story-changing feat. It didn't introduce a new facet of a technique only for that facet to never be touched again. It just expanded upon a fight from the Manga.

Contrast that with an arc like the Asura and Indra Arc. Indra has Sasuke's Mangekyo, they use techniques wildly similar to ones invented generations later, etc. This arc has feats that contradict stuff from the manga, and those scenes to me are non-canon.

Even the Itachi backstory arc in the anime I consider canon, because while it doesn't happen in the manga, the story and abilities shown were things that pretty much made sense in the whole story from the manga. It just expanded on backstory from the manga

So the reason this feat of Tsukuyomi is one I don't really consider canon is because it doesn't make sense within the manga imo. For reasons I've gone into lol. And not only does it not make sense within the manga, it only appears in something outside the manga.

I was responding to someone else about this whole canon business awhile back here, I forget who, but I clarified that of course we don't dictate what's canon or not and that I was just saying my personal view on why that use of Tsukuyomi was an outlier and why I didn't consider it within his abilities.

In any case, my "argument" here is that Itachi's use of Tsukuyomi doesn't make sense within the story and is an outlier in terms of his abilities. So that's the point of me being here in this discussion lol. If there was a debate going on that included novel feats, I would include novel feats and the same goes for anime-only feat. Usually the criteria for what feats to use is determined by the OP, but this discussion itself that I'm having is whether the instance made sense and is within Itachi's abilities or not. That's why I'm giving these arguments lol.