Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20150410212019/@comment-142748-20150413035508

Trappedinmygenjutsu wrote: The Totsuka sword a version of the sword of Kusanagi, it has more cutting power than the other swords in the series and this indication shows that it is more likely able to cut, mokuton techniques of Madara's 'usual' Susanoo sword. Madara's Perfect Susanoo blades can cut through mountains without even directly touching them. Nothing Totsuka, or Kusanagi has done puts them on that level of cutting strength. Hashirama's Hobi was able to catch THOSE with ease without even being in Sage Mode. Of course Hashirama is not going to stand there, but Itachi struck both Nagato and Orochimaru before they were even able to react to Itachi stabbing both of them. Itachi's genjutsu also immobilizes his opponents for long enough (less than a second) in order to finish them. He also has shadow clones and other genjutsu abilities which would give him opportunities for surprise attacks which would finish Hashirama off in one move. The Totsuka blade had no problem in sealing Nagato who also has extremely high chakra reserves which would replenish an infinite amount of times (so I don't see how you could overload the Totsuka blade). He tagged Nagato with it since Kabuto didn't even know that Nagato had sensing and was standing there. Orochimaru was also immobile, hell he didn't make an attempt to dodge.

Hashirama would instantly break out of ANY genjutsu that Itachi tries. Itachi even needs his full Susanoo, full armor to manifest the Totsuka Blade, and that takes quite a bit of time, several panels if not a full minute to do when he's alive. There is no proof that Zetsu was exaggerating. He has no bias towards any of the characters, he has existed long enough to witness everyone in the series fight and he is able to record fights (so he will never forget). His judgement is the most credible in the whole series, and it can not be taken lightly or dismissed as easily as you are trying to make it. All these characters in the series have the up most respect for Itachi and recognize that non of them would want to fight Itachi, FOR A REASON. Which is why Kirin was able to break through Yata Mirror, Itachi's best defense. Its an obvious exaggeration. Lots of things called invincible are not in fact invincible. In fact ,the manga goes out of its way to show that nothing is invincible, everything has a flaw. When we were talking on the rule thread, you even acted like you agreed hyperbole shouldn't be used. So why are you using a bit of a double standard here for Itachi? Unless Yata Mirror was tested, its not invincible. All we can say its highly durable, but it can be broken. Do you understand where I'm coming from? Saying that Hashirama will not look into Itachi's eyes is just an excuse for saying that Hashirama would be screwed the second he looked into Itachi's eyes. Even if he does look, he isn't screwed. Itachi's put Naruto in a genjutsu, big deal, Naruto sucked back then when it came to genjutsu defenses. Kindly stop making it seem like its a special or a big deal. It is not as simple as saying that he won't look at Itachi's eye (it is not as simple as that) and that is assuming that he knows that Itachi is an Uchiha (you have nothing to counter that). He can't as simply break the genjutsu (he hasn't been shown to break such genjutsu in the show) and he hasn't versed a genjutsu specialist like Itachi before. If Kurenai can break it, if Kakashi can break it, Hashirama can break his standard genjutsu. He is a genjutsu user himself, a master if Yin release! So why do you think that Hashirama of all people, the God of Shinobi, would fall prey and be beaten by one of Itachi's genjutsu. Unless you believe Itachi can fight all five Kage at the same time and win, he's not at the level where he can beat Hashirama (Hashirama can do said feat).