User talk:Toroi

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please leave your signature on the talk page, thnx you. Kunoichi101 (talk) 02:07, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

Blazing characters
Hey! o/ I couldn't help but notice that you've added that Pakura, Gari, Chūkichi and Toroi (and their techniques) appear in blazing. Would you mind providing a source for that?:) I'm looking at the subreddit at the moment and I don't see any of them as playable characters in that game.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 16:22, August 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * bump.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 12:04, August 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey. Bumping it again, just for general curiosity, since you seem to be familiar with this game.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 14:27, November 18, 2017 (UTC)

Collectible Card Game =/= Game Debut
The CCG is not in the jurisdiction of materials we use as references on the wiki, and the "game" slot is reserved to video game adaptations. I had to revert these edits from you before so you should be aware that what you've done today is quote-on-quote "wron", this is your second time doing this, please, don't let there be a 3rd.

-Best regards. --BerserkerPhantom (talk) 14:25, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Izuna
Could you point me to a source showing Izuna using Flying Swallow and Great Fire Annihilation? GFA is easier to understand, but FS? Use of the chakra knives makes that a little harder to believe. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:05, January 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * GFA is legit, the English name is even the same, but the other jutsu he's using with the sword is not FS, name indicates is something game only. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:40, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Ibuse Engulfing Poison
Can you point me to a source? This could be a duplicate/alternate name for something that was named in Storm 3, which was released years before Blazing. Usual Google-fu isn't yielding any results. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:58, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
 * Bump. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:27, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Image policy
Please read it before uploading any more files. Images used in articles must have a properly filled out fair use license and fair use rationale. Check other image files to see how they're supposed to look like. Several of the images you uploaded recently do not have either of those. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll have to ask you to observe this again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And this again. You're not adding a license to your uploads. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

N:UNO game names
You sure you got the Kiba jutsu right? You added "Lighting Blades Ninja Art: Falling Thunder" to "Lightning Release: Depth Charge", but that names seems a closer translation to "Thunderswords Technique: Thunderbolt", to which the game name you added was "Lightning Blades Strike". Rakurai in that jutsu can literally be translated as "falling thunder/lightning". Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:33, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Similarly, "Super Steam Kill" which you added "Great Steaming Explosive Blast" is already the anime name for "Extremely Steaming Murder", to which you added "Scorching Wave", which sounds like it fits more with what Great Steaming Explosive Blast does. I'm still going through recent changes, so I might amend this message a few times. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * What's the deal with Angular Shuriken? From the description it just sounds like Magnet Release: Magnetization. Angular Shuriken sounds more like a tool name, which probably go in the shuriken article in the section describing Toroi's shuriken. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm really beginning to wonder if getting stuff from that game is valid. Among other examples, the names of the jutsu you added for Jinin's sword jutsu are exactly what a long-blocked user insisted in adding way back, trying to say they were actual jutsu when anime and manga never showed them as jutsu. These make me highly suspicious that this online game is actually going through the wiki and using whatever it finds to make more content. It's kinda officialising fanon names in a roundabout way. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Are you ever going to reply? These are real issues. Also, from "Longsword Ninja Art: Wire Crucifixion" I suggest you stop taking the characters for their names, since the one you added for this contains simplified Chinese characters, so these titles aren't in Japanese. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You are also going overboard creating several minute articles which barely differ from one another. Please create game jutsu articles only when they're distinct enough. For example, several of the clay and drawing variations for Deidara's and Sai's jutsu are listed together in a main article instead of having their own articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Similarly, we don't add game chakra natures to manga and anime characters. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Omni's reverts
He shouldn't have gone and undone all of those trivia edits, although he isn't wrong about them not quite belonging where they were. If you'd still be up for it, even after he undid them all, you could put those notes under the characters' Video Game section. Munchvtec (talk) 21:57, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Like I said in the reverts, video game chakra natures don't get listed in anime/manga characters. If we listed them, they'd be listed in infoboxes alongside manga, anime, and novel chakra natures. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * And we'll make note of it in the video game sections, where we have always added playable lists and other miscellaneous info. Munchvtec (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Listing it video game section of manga/anime characters is still listing them. Historical example: Water Release: Azure Dragon Palm debuted in Storm Generations in February 2012. At the time, it was Ao's only Water Release jutsu, because Jin no Sho had yet to be published explaining Sensing Water Sphere, that article was only created in 2014. There was no listing of Water Release in Ao's article, infobox or text. The only way to see that was to click the infobox jutsu link that shows all jutsu regardless of medium. Listing chakra natures from this game opens the door for listing it for other games, creating unnecessary cross-checking, which is made even harder because there are old games where characters have customisable jutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It's clear you'd like to just do whatever you want. We've always listed this stuff in that section. Let's open that door. I don't see the harm, even after what you said. Someone went out of their way to benefit the wiki, and you just remove it all because... wait, no real reason. This isn't 2010, I don't know what's with the archaism. If we are going to list video game stuff, why pick and choose? List it all, or don't list it at all. This is so nitpicky, lol. I've played all the games, it's not as deep as you imply. Munchvtec (talk) 02:25, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


 * One of the purposes of the video game sections is to provide information that's only true in video games. Most articles don't list anything beyond what games a particular character appears in, but that's only because there usually isn't anything worthwhile to say; Hinata_Hyūga is one of the few exceptions I can think of. If a character has a nature in a specific game that they don't have in some other media, that sounds noteworthy. I mean, I don't find it particularity interesting, and the information would be vastly more useful in the actual video game's article (which for some reason it isn't), but I don't see how the information's inclusion would violate the wiki's ethos. ~SnapperTo 05:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If I had the discretion to "just do whatever [I] want", trust me, there's many things I would and would not have done over the years. I removed that information because that's the standard and practice that this community taught me when I first joined and started editing here, and the same the community continued to uphold. Even if were up to me and me alone, there's a lot of game jutsu I'd list, but others have spoken against it, so I stopped. This wiki already veers more towards listing nothing at all when it comes to games. And while being game stuff for anime and manga characters is the main reason I removed it, some of those were also redundant. For example, Yahiko being Water Release, which is already the case in the manga, and Deva Path being Lightning, which since Nagato is the one controlling him, is already the case in the manga as well. I'm not at all opposed to listing these in the actual game page. Pretty sure I corrected an addition to the game page pointing out all Kumo characters have Lightning Release. My main concern with adding things from the Ultimate Ninja Online game specifically is that there seems to be quite a bit that doesn't quite add up among what is named, and some of it seems to be just taking names from placeholder names we use. I've tried asking Toroi for almost two months now, as you can see in the topic above this, but never got a single reply. I even reached out to him in another wiki to see if a notification from another wiki would get his attention, but nada. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)