Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200621203703/@comment-45444155-20200709194323

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

Okay, so what's the difference? When Naruto was training at Sage Modo, Fukasaku said that Sage Modo is the result of mixing spiritual, physical and natural energies. That is, getting the chakra sage injects the user into SM. Why is the Jugo mode so fundamentally different? Im not about to list off all the stuff that makes Sage Transformation amd Sage Mode different. There are enough resources for you to find that out on your own

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Can Hagoromo use a Rinnegan like Sasuke? What do you mean like Sasuke?

ReweR 1331 wrote:

And why can't Madara activate Sharingan over Rinnegan? Because he cant. There really isnt another answer for that.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Here (... because he doesnt have the special eyes) you mean Indra's simple eyes / his reincarnation, or Sharingan? I think theu would have to be Sharingan that contain Indra's chakra.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Okay, I think I'm starting to understand your logic. The reincarnations of Indra when the chakra 6 Paths is reached get Rinnegan, and the reincarnations of Ashura when the chakra 6 Paths is reached have nothing. They need to learn. Its not that they get nothing. They would get all the usual strength amps they already ha e strong bodies so they would have REALLY strong bodies.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

It's a scheme, it turns out:

- Indra: chakra Indra + chakra Ashura = chakra 6 Paths = Rinnegan + ability to use 6 Paths Senjutsu / SPSM, what to learn

- Ashura: chakra Ashura + chakra Indra = chakra 6 Paths = Rinnegan (?) + the ability to use 6 Paths Senjutsu / SPSM, what to learn.

- Indra: chakra Indra + chakra 6 Paths = Rinnegan. Does this Indra have the opportunity to study 6 Paths Senjutsu?

- Ashura: chakra Ashura + chakra 6 Paths = Opportunity to use 6 Paths Senjutsu / SPSM to learn what to learn. Rinnegan will not get then, right? Ashura and his reincarnations wont get Rinnegan

Indra and his reincarnations will get Rinnegan

They can both learn 6 Paths Senjutsu/SPSM, but Ashura's reincarnates will probably better at it because of their strong bodies

The manga doesn't indicate any differences. And both are named senjutsu, that's all it says in a manga. If you know the difference, please explain. Orochimaru uses senjutsu but doesn't own SM, which is weird and doesn't fit the mechanics described by Fukasaku.

How does Naruto get six paths senjutsu? And how does that differ from SPSM? I don't understand why just having the chakra 6 paths and the chakra sage at the reincarnation of Ashura doesn't bring it to 6 paths senjutsu?

Can Hagoromo activate Sharingan with Rinnegan, like Sasuke does?

Yes, yes, that's what I meant. It's just that Indra's reincarnations are immediately given to Rinnegan when the Ashura's reincarnations need to get used to the 6 paths senjutsu

Um, some kind of imbalance is working out...

By the way, I've been meaning to ask. Why isn't TSB the jutsu that cancels / erases ninjutsu for you?