User talk:M4ND0N

Hello M4ND0N, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Tobi page.

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Re: Tobi Article
What you are writing otherwise than being unnecessary, makes it sound like we're gotten definitive proof of who exactly Tobi is. There is still great uncertainty going from the storyline and the information that we have who exactly he is and your revisions is making it sound like it's been said definitively that "Tobi is not Madara Uchiha". None of what is there needs to be there. Also, please remember to sign your posts using four tildes (~) or the signature button--Cerez365™ 00:31, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I never said he didn't, because it's more than obvious that Madara hated the Senju. However, I don't support copying and pasting the information from Tobi's article. Simply making a note that he did in fact carry hatred for the clan and Hashirama etc... is more than sufficient. I also don't think that any of us are in a position to classify anything as false information in either article.--Cerez365™ 00:54, December 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * you have misinterpreted my statement. — S im A nt 22:51, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Regarding your Tobi edit
If we simply remove things on the basis that he might have been doing that to keep the Madara cover, we might as well remove 80% of the page. I think the best way out is to better word those bits. I'm trying to find a way of doing that, though the edit conflicts are getting in the way a bit. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:43, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Tobi said each of the things that are present in his personality section. He clearly showed his disdain for the Senju in 3 separate occasions: When explaining the truth about Itachi to Sasuke, in the Land of Iron to Naruto, and when he was fighting Konan. Also, he never actually said he wasn't Madara. All he said was that he didn't care whether or not they referred to him by that name as he didn't care. In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence that Tobi is Madara, more so than there is doubt that he isn't:

-The 3rd Databook states that they're the same in both of their articles. -He told Konan-- whom he was about to kill and thus would have absolutely no reason to lie to her-- that he's Madara and that he fought Hashirama at the Valley of the End to gain some of his DNA (which the Edo Madara claimed to have done as well. -Some of the most famous and powerful ninja to ever live in the series--specifically, Minato, Itachi, Onoki, A, Tsunade-- believe that no one but Madara could be responsible and have the motive to do all that he's done. Even Jiraiya, who had no idea of Tobi's existence or claims believed that Madara must be alive and be behind Akatsuki. The largest piece of evidence is the fact that the Kyubi never referred to anyone but Madara controlling it, and Onoki (who fought Madara in the past) never cast any real doubt on Tobi's claim of being him, and upon seeing Madara resurrected was at a loss to think of anyone else that it could be. even though I believe that Tobi could be Madara in some way (a la Splitting Technique), the wiki presents this information because it is ambiguous in this case since we don't know for certain that he isn't Madara, since this has only recently come to light. Skitts (talk) 01:20, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox images
Changes to those have to go through discussions before being carried out. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:15, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Which change? The Itachi one? Fair enough, I kinda went on assumption that everyone would prefer a more recent photo of Itachi to represent the article. I'll ask next time. --M4ND0N (talk) 04:27, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * And again. We don't want Shippuden images of characters in the infobox unless they appeared from Shippuden and Naruto / Sasuke appeared from the very beginning of the series so images from them are wanted. Also, your images have no license metadata or rationale for use anyway --Speysider Talk Page 16:14, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Unsigned comments
If someone is leaving unsigned comments, rather than just threatening them, use the template. It's there for a reason. --Speysider Talk Page 19:20, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Signatures
Animefreak 55's signatures on that thread are not in line with the Signature policy, just leaving a link to your talkpage is not permitted as a valid signature. That is why the Unsigned template is there. --Speysider Talk Page 20:43, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Obito and shit around that
It's cool, I got the best possible explanation for Obito turning this way, "Curse of Hatred"--Elveonora (talk) 22:43, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please keep the character named as "Tobi" in the article, if it is during the time that that was his alias. — S im A nt 00:36, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I didn't get any indication that this was the course of action. It was my mistake. --M4ND0N (talk) 01:01, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

That was like the worst chapter in the series... Seriously, I really do believe that Kishi must be smoking some damn weird **** these days.--Elveonora (talk) 08:59, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Flashbacks
 * 2) Retarded reason for turning a villain
 * 3) Madara and Obito working together, like wtf?

Well to be fair, Madara and Tobi working together was already established. But I agree that Obito's reasons aren't at all well thought out, Rin's death, really? I can tell he planned on Tobi being Obito for years now, I take solace in that fact. --M4ND0N (talk) 17:16, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

There's still more to it... I simply can't swallow that good old Obito turned to this due to a chick 0_o he is sure under Madara's control or something, or Izuna in Obito's body... just wait ;D--Elveonora (talk) 12:23, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Image policy
M4ND0N, we have become aware that you have violated one or more rules that have been listed out in the Image policy. Please make sure to read the policy again so that you are not blocked for ignoring the policy. Any queries about why you are receiving this message can be directed to my talkpage.

The part of the policy which you violated is quoted before for reference: "All images must have a fair use rationale as well as license metadata before they can be used." Many thanks for your co-operation. --Speysider Talk Page 16:00, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Repeated violations of Image policy
M4ND0N, this is the second warning regarding a violation of the Image policy. Please read over the Image policy again as well as the other policies listed in the Rules Index, before you continue to edit, otherwise you may be blocked from editing for a short time. Any queries about this message can be sent to my talkpage. Thanks. -- 07:23, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Images
They like it when you add Fair use and rationale to your images.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:26, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

618 Hokage Image
Shave a little more off the top please, to get rid of the watermark.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 06:53, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Last Warning Regarding Image policy

 * You were given a warning and you didn't read the policy. Your image is against the rules and I don't care if your one is better and is what the manga depicts. My image is in full HD and came first. As long as the characters are depicted, it does not matter what image is used. --Speysider Talk Page 18:55, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

"The only case where you should make use of the re-upload feature is when you are uploading a better quality image of the same image (same media, same episode/chapter, same scene/page, same basic frame of the episode/manga) on top of another."
 * Sums it up just fine. Obviously you don't understand how things work here. We use the first scene they appear in and not just the exact same scene that was shown in the manga, as long as it depicts what it is trying to depict. My image quite clearly depicts Nagato and Itachi just fine so there's no need for your image. --Speysider Talk Page 19:03, February 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Considering the fact you've been told two times before about image policy, I would've thought you'd have checked the policy first before you started a revert war over the image. --Speysider Talk Page 19:09, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Just to be clear: the only portion of the image policy you violated this time was uploading the image over an existing image. That should only be done when the image is the same. So if you upload the image under a new name, you'd be fine. ~SnapperTo 19:42, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

If you want to advocate for the image to be changed feel free to head over to a talkpage and start a discussion about it. See what the rest of the community thinks. Also in the future use function to add your images, fill out the section that says summary and license as best as possible, someone else will correct them if necessary. You can also take a look at the summaries of the images you've recently uploaded, those have been fixed. That's what your image details should look like.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 08:24, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

PTS Sasuke Boss battle: What do you think?
I kind of figured that the PTS character rumor was true. But I wanted to ask you something. Since you're the one who edited the Storm 3 roster to say they're in it, There was a video I saw on Youtube where a person showed this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2FaXEyrnBE. If you can't see it, it's a picture of what could be Storm 3: a boss fight between PTS Naruto and PTS Sasuke in their awakened states. The reason this confuses me is that I don't think it's fake; it has ring out boundries and it has the same character portrait "red fire" art the bosses have, not to mention the art style of the life, chakra, and sub bars. I just was wondering; do you think this is real, and if that's so, shouldn't PTS Sasuke mentioned as a boss fight?

MrAwesomeMatty (talk) 02:59, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Why shouldn't the Nine Tails' Attack be mentioned under Rin's legacy section?
Technically, the root of all the problem was the Sage's choice of heir, but as far as Rin is concerned, Obito's involvement with Akatsuki and with the Nine-Tails' attack is at least indirectly mentioned in that section, because those were both parts of putting the Eye of the Moon Plan into play. And despite Obito's clan, we have yet to see exactly how he created Akatsuki. I don't recall if the Ame orphans already had clouds in their cloaks when Obito approached them, but seemed to be about the same age as they were when we saw them in other flashbacks, those with the cloud print on their cloaks. We know he was speaking as Madara when he said he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. His involvement with Akatsuki has less to do with its creation and more to do with steering it into becoming a terrorist group. The question is, is it really necessary to explicit his role in events, when we know them to be pivotal for the grand scheme he's already mentioned as putting in motion? I don't inherently have anything against listing those, but I find it rather redundant. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:22, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Hey sorry for bothering again my friend :D i just wanted to ask you how can i get permission to edit Info Box in some characher ? :) Thanks for answering mate.

Kurama
Not bold at all. They're both Kurama. Look no further than the second thing the black Kurama said; "Begging myself for help... This is getting weird." Even they know they're the same people. One is Yin and one is Yang. That's all. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 07:56, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke's EMS
Well I looked at that point and the episode preview image does not match the scene you are referring to. They're two different scenes entirely depicting the same thing. All I'm saying is that the specific scene shown in the episode preview does NOT appear in Episode 331. Please stop acting high and mighty over that image, just because you don't like 1080p images: to be frank and blunt about it, the episode preview image you are holding hostage, as it were, is technically inferior quality to my image. So no, I am not convinced your "episode preview" image is suitable. If you want a better image of the eyes, then ask someone to get a 1080p grab of a closeup of them from Episode 331 itself. I can clearly see that you think that image quality is unimportant from my own observations.

And on another note, when I looked at that scene, the anime has depicted the EMS on Sasuke wrongly so it would be wrong of us to use that scene. So if you can find a scene in that episode where the EMS is not depicted incorrectly, then I'd be happy to upload it. --Speysider Talk Page 07:07, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just ignore all of that, I looked again. The closeup is just simply a cropping of the right side of Sasuke's face from the scene you showed. However, the closeup is in poor quality and it could easily be sorted by someone uploading a higher quality stream of it. On another note, you don't need to act so high and mighty over the images that people upload, I can tell that a lot of your uploads are generally bad quality in the first place (due to whatever stream you use and all the pointless cropping at times) so I would consider trying to find a better source for watching the series so you can upload less blurry images. --Speysider Talk Page 08:59, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Relationships in infoboxes
You don't have to manually enter things such as siblings. Based on who is listed in the "parent" field, the infobox automatically inserts other close relatives. Adding them manually in the "other relationships" only causes them to show up twice. Take a look at the infoboxes for members of the Sarutobi and Senju clan for example. From Sasuke Sarutobi to Asuma's child, everyone that is connected by blood shows up. All the Senju brothers show up on each other's infoboxes and in Butsuma's. If we were to be introduced to whichever of Tsunade's parents that was Hashirama's child, we would be able to remove her and Nawaki from "other relationships", since we'd have enough information so that the infobox would add them on its own. Same would happen if we were to meet Konohamaru's Sarutobi parent. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:49, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Intervention
Ok, now we need an intervention. You literally have to stop adding a new picture for Obito whenever it fits your fancy, because now we are at the point that you will go and upload a new image of the man at the drop of a hat. The current one works, he does not need a new image every other week.-TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:33, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Could you upload...
Madara's Perfect Susano'o covering Kurama from the Anime please?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:21, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

DCM
The only time this wiki doesn't use DCM is when it's the wrong coloring. There was nothing wrong with the 3 images you reverted. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 01:49, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, Saru is correct. We've used many DCM images on this wikia, for example, the Susanoo article. Please don't revert them again, they were officially colored and the correct color. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 04:59, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Minato's Ying Kurama tailed beast mode is different color that Naruto's Ying Kurama tailed beast mode. Chapter 690 Minato's tailed beast mode is fairly dark in color compared to the most recent chapter were its white like Naruto's original tailed beast mode in the manga. Despite what half of Kurama Naruto has, his tailed beast mode is going to remain light orange. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:25, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, Saru is correct. Yin Kurama's chakra shroud is a darker grey in the manga. When Naruto clashed with Sasuke, it was white in the manga, not grey. Again, please don't revert any of the pictures. They are not fan-made pictures, as far as we're concerned, they're accurate.


 * Edit: Okay, seems like you've calmed down. And after looking at your talkpage, it seems you have a history of being a little disruptive with photos (to the point where TU3 commented on your page). According to FF-Suzaku, the last chapters of the manga will be colored, so please don't revert them when they're uploaded unless the are obviously incorrect. Due to your history with photos on this wiki, if you do so again to pictures that are accurate like you have recently just done, I'll have to report you. Please, don't create a revert war with photos. It's not a good use of time. Thanks. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 11:00, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers
Please do not change characters' statuses or add events from the movie until it has actually been released. ~SnapperTo 21:13, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Images
I'm pretty sure I don't need to remind you that you need a community consensus on the article's talkpage before you just change character infobox images. --Sajuuk Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk 11:37, June 25, 2015 (UTC)