User talk:Ankhael

message me here, anything you wanna disscuss
--Ankhael (talk) 14:24, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

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I'm glad
That you depend so much on facts, we need editors like that, so welcome. For the eyes, it's really not speculation. Does the Susanoo require Mangekyou to our knowledge? Yes, it does. Did Indra have the Sharingan? Yes, he did. Did he also have some spiral eyes? Yes, he did. So what's less safe to assume, that those spiral eyes were his Mangekyou, or that he had 3 different doujutsu? Glad it's been settled--Elveonora (talk) 15:07, April 9, 2014 (UTC) it still doesn't make it a fact, there is no point in arguing. your missing the point, your still speculating. --Ankhael (talk) 16:33, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

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So you're bugged about Indra's eyes. Let me give guide you through. When we first shown Indra, in the manga, we were shown that he had the spiral eye. We listed that he had the spiral eye. Then the anime caught up, and showed that the eye was red. We didn't really do anything, because the Sage himself had been shown with red Rinnegan at some point close to that, so everyone just assumed art error by the anime team. We still listed his eye as a separate thing. Then, when we learned his name, we saw him with a basic, undeniable Sharingan. And in the very same chapter, we saw him using Susanoo. Well, every user of Susanoo so far, by definition, is a Mangekyō Sharingan user. Suddenly, that red depiction of the spiral eye makes sense. Are you suggesting that Indra had MS and another, unspecified spiral dōjutsu? Do you honestly think that that is less speculative than saying that the unique design we saw in his eyes is his MS, which we know is unique to each pair of eyes, and differs between users? The spiral eye being his MS is the only scenario in canon which successfully explains and goes with every other piece of available information regarding that topic. It's the least speculative thing to say. We don't have to be spoon-fed every single statement. If next chapter they reveal that the spiral eye is something completely different, I'll go around the articles myself and update them, but until then, that's his MS. And don't puff your chest to say that we're the only ones saying this, there are threads in many Naruto boards saying the same thing. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:18, April 9, 2014 (U

'''So you're bugged about Indra's eyes. Let me give guide you through. When we first shown Indra, in the manga, we were shown that he had the spiral eye. We listed that he had the spiral eye. Then the anime caught up, and showed that the eye was red. We didn't really do anything, because the Sage himself had been shown with red Rinnegan at some point close to that, so everyone just assumed art error by the anime team. We still listed his eye as a separate thing. Then, when we learned his name, we saw him with a basic, undeniable Sharingan. And in the very same chapter, we saw him using Susanoo. Well, every user of Susanoo so far, by definition, is a Mangekyō Sharingan user. Suddenly, that red depiction of the spiral eye makes sense'''

you telling me stuff I already know, as for the eye colors, thats the anime producers doing, that has nothing kishi's original manga disigns and writings.

'''Are you suggesting that Indra had MS and another, unspecified spiral dōjutsu? Do you honestly think that that is less speculative than saying that the unique design we saw in his eyes is his MS'''

no I am not suggesting anything, though that could be possible, but on contrary didn't it occur to you that that could be his rinnegan. however I am saying that we don't know if the spiral eyes is his mangekyo, we don't know what they are. wikia is not about speculation, and you my friend are speculating, we need to wait for manga giving facts. until then then the eyes should be kept a mystery.

'''The spiral eye being his MS is the only scenario in canon which successfully explains and goes with every other piece of available information regarding that topic. It's the least speculative thing to say. We don't have to be spoon-fed every single statement.'''

that giving scenario is not canon, that is your speculative conclusion. there shouldn't be any speculations in the articles at all, its ok to have theories but its not cool to put them into articles because other fans are going to want to start to do the same thing because you are doing it and its misleading fans that comes to this site that looks for canon source, narutopedia is for canon information. I do like your theory but we have to wait, you cant just put your speculation in an article and call it fact, its misleading without exact reference.

If next chapter they reveal that the spiral eye is something completely different, I'll go around the articles myself and update them, but until then, that's his MS. 

once again this site is about facts, when you put your speculation in the articles you are telling readers what you think not what the series stated and that is wrong, you are abusing the articles and your position on this site and you are wrong.

And don't puff your chest to say that we're the only ones saying this, there are threads in many Naruto boards saying the same thing.

if everyone started jumping off buildings would you do it? and don't put. --Ankhael (talk) 16:31, April 9, 2014 (UTC)