Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752

There are many misconceptions regarding this mode. I’ll be addressing at least one of them in this thread. Let’s jump right in.

Claim: ‘There is no mention of biju chakra in the rsm databook page’

Ok first I’ll say this: The databook is meant to be used as a point of reference. It’s pages pack plenty of information and the images on those pages provide vital context to what’s being explained. Furthermore, the image descriptions clarifies what exactly is being depicted and establishes the image’ relevance to the page itself.

That said, let’s look at the Rsm Databook Page, specifically the image highlighted in blue. At first glance, the picture just shows Naruto kicking the TSO away from guy. Now for many people, that’s all they need to see to reach the conclusion that this image depicts naruto using rsm. But that’s WRONG, and here’s why.

That conclusion disregards the image’ description entirely, and prioritizes a personal one instead. Substituting one’s own interpretation of an image is not how to gain the appropriate context. This only leads to guessing the meaning behind the image. Which in turn leads to a compromised understanding of the databook page itself.

The good news is databook doesn’t just paste some random text and slap random images next to it and tell you to guess it’s importance. Instead, it provides all the necessary information for you. Adhering to the PROVIDED DESCRIPTION is not only more credible, but makes for better comprehension and understanding of both the image and the databook page.

So let’s be clear, here’s what the image description states highlighted in green: ‘Kicking the "Truth-Seeking Ball"! Exceeding the Kurama Mode, a feat accomplished by a huge chakra.’

Ok so based on the PROVIDED DESCRIPTION we know that the image is showing Naruto kicking a TSO and uses a chakra greater than half of kurama alone to do so. What does this mean?

Well for one, the claim that ‘there is no mention of biju chakra being involved with rsm’(or anything similar enough to that) just got debunked. The actual description states the kick required chakra greater than what Naruto uses for kcm, which at that point was half of kurama.

Secondly, we know that during the war Naruto did have more chakra than just half kurama, as he also had chakra fragments from the remaining 8 biju inside him. Now admittedly those fragments are significantly smaller when compared to an entire half of kurama, but as obito put it ‘they aren’t lacking in power.’

Ok so Naruto had chakra from each biju, what’s the big deal?

Well having those 9 chakras and then mixing them results the juubi’ chakra, aka rikudo senjutsu. It’s why akatsuki were on missions to capture the jinchuriki.

They were after each biju, specifically their power/chakra. When chakra from each biju mixes, you create a greater power. That power is the juubi’ own chakra, also called rikudo senjutsu. It’s the exact power both obito and madara gained after sealing each biju(or their fragmented power) inside of the gedo statue and then into themselves. This is what Naruto was capable achieving when he uses their chakra together.

Ok, so Naruto’ massive chakra was the collective 9 biju chakra, which he could use to make rikudo senjutsu by mixing all 9 together. Still, why have this on the rsm databook page? Why is it so important and how does it pertain to rsm?

That answer is simple. Just like a sage has to be gather senjutsu before entering sage mode, Naruto by mixing those 9 biju chakras recreates and ‘gathers’ rikudo senjutsu. He uses this amount of recreated juubi chakra to enter rsm.

The proof of this is in the manga, which is where we learn that prior to receiving rsm from hagoromo, Naruto met the right conditions and gained chakra from each biju. The same chakra which allowed him to kick the TSO.

Prior to entering rsm, Naruto’ power starts gradually rising. Madara noticed this along with feats done by Naruto that isn’t possible with only half kurama and the pieces of one and eight tails obito took from him. Dodging limbo, using lava rasenshuriken, this wasn’t just those three chakra in play, this was Naruto gaining new power as he tapped into all 9 biju chakra, one through nine tails.

Naruto’ power continues to rise then he enters rsm. At that point Madara knew what naruto’ increasing power was. He knew because once it fully manifested, he realized that same power he had himself(without the sage mode). Naruto had been producing and increasing his level of rikudo senjutsu.Naruto had all the hallmarks of rikudo senjutsu when he activated his rsm. Once he produced enough of it, he started sporting a rinnegan and 9 tomoe on his back along with 9 TSOs floating behind him. This is depicted many times throughout the arc.

Counters:

1. That greater chakra that Naruto used to kick the TSO was his half of hagoromo’ chakra.

2. Naruto was flying in the last and flew twice in boruto. Once to catch a train and again to save Sasuke from momoshiki’ attack.

3. Naruto adds kcm cloak to his rsm.

4. Naruto was in rsm when he saved guy, his eyes prove that.

Rebuttals:

1. If that were true, there’d be no reason for hokage Naruto to use a form other than rsm. Episode 65 of boruto anime proves he(and presumably Sasuke) still has rikudo chakra. What he lacks is juubi’ chakra, not Hagoromo’.

2. Naruto can only fly in rsm, neither of those instances depict flight. If you believe it did, then you must also believe Naruto could fly before he even met with hagoromo.

3. There is no evidence to support this notion, including a lack of mention in the 4th databook. Whereas The Last guidebook makes it clear that Naruto can used kurama and sage mode together: ‘Kurama Chakra Mode Naruto exhibits overwhelming power when borrowing massive amounts of chakra from Kurama, who is sealed within him. Furthermore, when used in conjunction with “sennin mode,” it drastically increases his sensory ability and the power of the ninjutsu he employs…!! Caption for Naruto in Kurama chakra mode: The Shishou Fuuin becomes visible, and his chakra overflows like flames. Before: In the height of the Fourth Great Ninja War, he and his long-time enemy Kurama to fight a common battle…!!’

Meaning guides can and do establish when multiple modes are used, but that’s not the case for rsm. It is a single mode.

4. Ok this another popular misconception. There is absolutely no evidence that Naruto’ eyes has relevance to rsm. It wasn’t mentioned in the databook, nor did the manga acknowledge his eyes. Whereas I can point to a specific panel in the manga that establishes when Naruto’ eyes are indicative of his forms. Rsm has its own hallmarks and indications. As madara pointed out, the hallmark for rsm is the awakening of rikudo senjutsu. It has nothing to do with his eyes.

In conclusion, rsm is form given to Naruto by hagoromo. Just like when he kicked madara’ TSO, entering this form is possible when Naruto has a chakra greater than kurama’. The only tailed beast chakra greater than kurama is the juubi’, which is called rikudo senjutsu. Naruto both produced and used this juubi chakra to enter rsm. That’s the significance and relevance of this image, and that’s why it’s included on the databook page for rsm(and other sources).

S.N. It’s important to note that this thread is not saying he acquired the mode itself from the juubi. We know from reading the same databook page that he got the form from hagoromo. The post is regarding the repeated claim and misconception of biju chakra not being involved or required for Naruto to enter rsm. I’ll restate: this is about entering rsm, not acquiring it. I know that thought will enter the minds of some while reading this, so please keep all responses relevant to entering rsm.

Thanks for reading. 