Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25343176-20141217153708/@comment-734582-20150501161752

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: @Thekillman Maybe in real life, but not in Naruto. Sorry, but what part are you referencing? Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: One large meteor would have destroyed Konoha and the hokage monument and that meteor was only a small piece of the Moon. It took the combined efforts of Lee and a few other Eight Gate users to destroy half of it and Sasuke destroyed the other half. Can you imagine how large and powerful the actual Moon would be if it hit Earth? Like they said, all life would end. Toneri cutting the Moon in half is leagues above anything Rinnegan Madara ever did. How is cutting a few mountains in half anything compared to that? Or even dropping two large meteors? It really isn't. A meteor is powerful because it transformed it's potential energy to kinetic energy. It takes so much to destroy, not because it's a big rock, but because it's a big rock coming in at a few kilometers per second. That rock that hit russia? Massive damage, and it was 10m or so across. A hundred meters across and you rival a (kiloton-level) nuke in power. A thousand meters across and the blast is bigger than the greatest nuke built. A rock from space is so dangerous because it got dropped from a few hundred miles above. Not because it's a big rock. The crater and explosion from the first meteor over Konoha was not even close to a Tailed Beast bomb.

In the end, like i said it's impressive, but it's a thin-shelled hollow moon. That makes it a whole lot less impressive. Naruto alone made a hole in the moon with his chakra, and considering how clean the hole was, if it were more ideally applied it could've been several times bigger.

As to power levels, the last 50 or so manga pages show a near-logarithmic increase in power. So yes, i actually consider moon-cutting closer to Rinnegan Madara than Juubi Madara.

As to mountain cutting: Mountains are typically in the order of a few kilometers high, and he cut (from memory) 3 or 4 of them. Assuming a basic triangle and accounting for the flat land surrounding them, that makes it a sweep many dozens of kilometers across, though hundreds of meters thick rock. But it wasn't a killer move or anything: madara just did it to prove a point. If he did that without a sweat, i wonder how far he can stretch that power until he hits his limit. Even if it takes several times his actual power to prove it, Juubi Madara was so far above Rinnegan Madara that i still consider it more like Rinnegan Madara power. I'm purely estimating order-of-magnitude power levels here, nothing specific (since that's pointless).

I think it makes it fairly clear that the Tenseigan and Rinnegan are fairly similar in power, though the Rinnegan has more utility power. Though i think that may also be because we've seen a lot more of the Rinnegan than the Tenseigan.