Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-9782468-20190212061036

BrainBrand wrote: @AsianReaper,

Tobi said Itachi did have a hidden agenda for even being in Konoha, to warn Danzo. He wasn't there to fight Jiraiya. For Jiraiya to seal Amaterasu, he has to take out a blank paper scroll, than take out a brush and write on it. Forget the fact that Jiraiya wouldn't have time to do that, because he was burning, even if he did have time, he would be on fire. How would he take out a paper scroll, if he was on fire?

And like FlatZone mentioned Itachi's Amaterasu can burn much faster, than what Sasuke shown against the Samurai, etc.

I'll give an example of what I mean: I might think 2 + 2 = 6. You might think 2 + 2 = 8. It doesn't matter if we come to a consensus, the truth is we would both be wrong, since 2 + 2 = 4.

Similar to the example above, whether I believe Itachi said Tsukuyomi's unbreakable or not doesn't change the fact that Itachi said quite literally that it's unbreakable (in the ViZ anime translation), he made no mention of how Tsukuyomi could be broken. And it would be contradicting what he just said, if he said it was breakable, right afterwards.

You would have to seriously stretch things to come to the conclusion that Itachi was saying only Uchiha could break Tsukuyomi. Like I said Itachi made no mention of the requirements to break Tsukuyomi there. Congratulation, you have made arguments so illogical they've compelled me to come back, hopefully for the last time (but I'm weak).

Itachi didn't come there to put Kakashi into a coma either yet look what he did. Also the ever loving Itachi decided to put Sasuke through so much anguish over his inadequacies that he quit the Leaf too. I mean, Itachi came for one reason but did more than that before leaving lol. If he could beat Jiraiya, he wouldn't have said he couldn't.

I mean, for Kakashi to survive Kaguya's dimension swap, he had to adjust to the fact that he was falling, scan his environment, realize he was falling into lava, take a scroll out of his pouch, tie the scroll around a kunai, throw the kunai up into rock so hard it impales the rock, catch Sakura, and throw a kunai into Obito's hand. Before they fell into lava. I truly don't think Jiraiya can't seal Amaterasu away in time, they're ninja.

@Flatzone's example is an outlier, it's never shown with this potency again. Plus I think the hole had more to do with the force of the technique Itachi exerted rather than Amaterasu's actual burning properties. Especially since they've never shown these properties again, even from Sasuke who's noted as a better user of Amaterasu than Itachi.

Real arrogant of you to think you can say what's actually true about the series, and that you can decide what statement is the one that's 2+2=4. Also there's one glaring error in your example. You used a mathematical equation to describe interpreting author's intent. And that's is not a good comparison at all.

Itachi literally said Tsukuyomi's unbreakable? Later in the series, Itachi exclaims that Sasuke broke his Tsukuyomi. Lol cmon

Many people said Gaara was literally untouchable. Many said Susanoo's defense was even better than Gaara's impenetrable defense. People can say things are unbreakable, but when they're broken, it proves those statements wrong.

You're the one who's stretching. You're stretching so much you're again ignoring the databook because you apparently have yet to find a counter for it. It's ridiculous.