Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-26636534-20160415123048

QuakingStar wrote: Genjutsu works on summons too, or did you forget that Sasuke with a normal Sharingan completely owned Manda?? Jiraiya himself said he needs help to get out of Genjutsu which is why he taught Naruto that he needs to have another person to help against Sharingan Genjutsu. Summons would get Genujutsu raped.. Jiraiya would get Tsukuyomi's then Sword of Totsuka'd.. any tech he would try before then would get blocked/reflected back at him with Yata Mirror. Orochimaru himself, who not only beat Jiraiya before, but was always confident he could beat Jiraiya anytime.. and also knew that Jiraiya had Sage Mode blatantly admitted trying to defeat or steal Itachi's body is impossible so he chose Sasuke instead. If you would deny these things you would be denying facts. You would be denying what anybody can flip back to those chapters and pages would see and read. Itachi would win this battle, more evidence stacked in his favor over all. What does Sasuke vs Madara have to do with Jiraiya vs Itachi? When did Jiraiya say that he needs help to get out of genjutsu? Using genjutsu on summons would not be wise since multiple allies can overcome sharingan genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is close range and is activated just like any sharingan genjutsu. Itachi won't be able to use Tsukuyomi and Susanoo at the same time, since they require so much chakra, besides multiple allies would make Tsukuyomi not a wise move. Not every attack Jiraiya can use can be blocked by the YM and the YM itself is not unbeatable.

Please give a reference to where Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya. Orochimaru wanting Itachi's and Sasuke's bodies has nothing to do with this fight, please try to stay on topic. You seem to be the one denying facts, since you forgot these points I have mentioned.