Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-38812954-20191223174558/@comment-33286580-20191225105409

The God of Shinobi title was probably given to him by the fact that he was the strongest of his era.

the idea that he mastered Forbidden Jutsu does not give him the credentials of being the God of Shinobi. He ever only showed one Forbidden Jutsu and that too was already used beforehand by the Fourth. Oh and Enma also recognized those seals for record.

Tobirama was the master in that sorts. the man essentially created most forbidden jutsu we know.

and, no, i dont buy in the idea that Hiruzen was stronger than Tobirama.

the manga line which everyone refers to confirming this statement in Danzo's past is nowhere saying Hiruzen is stronger than Tobirama. Hiruzen mentions he is strongest of the bunch, which clearly indicates that he is talking about the students of Tobirama. they were talking about a sacrifice so it was clear at that point that one of them would be the sacrifice and not Tobirama as the man was the Hokage. no one would sacrifice the Hokage in middle of a war. it is clear so at Danzo's outburst at the idea.

Yes. Hiruzen's fight in Part 1 was epic by his old age standards.

but let's not fool ourselves to the fact that each of his three opponents showed far greater skills in the future.

All Hashirama did was produce a few trees that barely covered the rooftop, a far cry from his true skills. even that Genjutsu he used did absolutely nothing.

and Tobirama used none of his real skills. he could have used Hiraishin and it would have been an end for Hiruzen and his water release had power to cut through Shinju.

even Orochimaru who was not restricted by the Edo level like Hashirama and Tobirama showed nothing of what he was capable of. he used no summons, used low level ninjutsu and barely made good use of Kusanagi. hell, the wind jutsu he used against team 7 to seperate them in forest of death was much stronger than anything he did in his fight with Hiruzen. Orochimaru showed more skills while fighting the other Sannin a few chapters later and at that time he was severly handicapped.

Hell Orochimaru was doing nothing but taunting Hiruzen throughout the fight. Only when Hashirama and Tobirama were sealed did we even see Orochimaru actually be a bit offencive and by then it was too late.

and after Oro was caught with the Shiki Fujin all he did to escape it was try to kill Hiruzen. he didnt kicked, punched or even bit down on Hiruzen to get away.

and for those who say how Ohnoki needed help. Yes he did. But he was using high level jutsu unlike Hiruen and actually could fight for long. Hiruzen was out of breath after using only a few jutsu of his.

also, i have never brought into the idea of Hiruzen knowing all of Konoha's ninjutsu which gives him the alias of the Professor.

first of, leaving aside the three kekkei genkai (Byakugan, Sharingan & Mokuton) which he cannot possess for obvious reasons, the idea that clans in that era would allow Hiruzen to learn their Hidden Jutsus that they clearly would guard the secret of is stupid.

If they had allowed him and he had mastered them then he should have used them in the fight agasint the Hokage and Orochimaru. Shadow Bind would have been damn useful to bind all three, Jyuuken could have helped seal Orochimaru's tenketsu and make it impossible for using jutsu, or Super Multi Size jutsu would have cleared all the trees. he also definitely did not learn the Aburame clan jutsu as that would mean housing insects in his body.

and what about personal jutsus like Rasengan, Chidori, Hiraishin and others. dont you think something like Hiraishin would have been a trump card in the fight.

also the fact that he chose to use the Shiki Fujin indicates that he probably didnt even know powerful Fuinjutsu. i mean, if he is supposed to have known all Konoha jutsu than he definitely knows about Edo Tensei. the fact that he knows Shiki Fujin is known to two Hokage it can be safely assumed that Kushina brought her knowledge and passed it down and most probably when the Uzumaki clan was destroyed Konoha gathered their knowledge, so Hiruzen should have known more sealing jutsu to seal the movements of the Hokage.

The reason he should have been called the Professor was probably his ability to analyze any jutsu. he showed the skill in the war.