Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190213044806/@comment-34656247-20190214073707

Quadraticequation wrote: Hmmm... granted that’s an interesting point. However, Itachi did openly admit that he would either tie or lose to Jiraiya.
 * Feats >> Statements.
 * Undercover Itachi making such statements = Non reliable info.

I’m pretty sure Jiraiya’s SM was known to Pain. Then again idk. And also when Jiraiya fought all 6 paths he was stabbed in the chest cuz he let his guard down. Pein stated:
 * He never knew that Jiraiya had a genjutsu this strong
 * It looks like all 3 of the sannin have their own unique skills.

Also Ma and Pa admitted that they never knew of Nagato etc, which means that Jiraiya never entered sage mode infront of Nagato and pals i said so because Ma and Pa is needed for Jiraiya to enter sage mode.