Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31337598-20180326183459/@comment-6769189-20180419053617

H was still using some wide area attacks though. Orochimaru implied that ge was having them toy with Hiruzen.

Given that we know Orochimaru wouldnt have been able to control Hashirama at his true strength then he is weaker than Orochimaru who is suppose to be equal to Jiraiya sooooo Jiraiya wins.