Talk:Truth-Seeking Ball

New Chapter 665
Well, as of this new chapter, last page, Obito has used this technique using the Yin-Yang that makes up Black Zetsu. Obviously he's no longer the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, so it can't just require the Ten-Tails' chakra to use, but any source of Yin-Yang chakra. Thoughts? ~ Ten Tailed Fox 07:12, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * It looked like he used some of Black Zetsu to make an orb, and he had his hand through Madara's chest. This is confusing. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 07:20, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * We can't be sure if he was using Black Zetsu to create the orb. It looks like he could just be forcing Black Zetsu off of his arm to regain control of it, and we can't rule out that he may still be using Ten-Tails' chakra somehow, since he was touching Madara at the time.--BeyondRed (talk) 07:23, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * While I'd say Obito could do it only because he's touching Madara's body, I suggest we wait the next chapter before putting any trivia.--JOA20 (talk) 07:25, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

To be on the safe side, we could call this "Malleable Chakra Spheres" or something to that extent, since at the very least, being Ten-Tails' current jinchuriki isn't a requirement to use this.--BeyondRed (talk) 07:44, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

yeah, as evident that how Obito was able to re-materialize his shakujō --141elitesupermegamode (talk) 08:11, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

You all jump to conclusions, he has his hand in Madara's gut and is likely absorbing the chakra, nothing to do with BZ--Elveonora (talk) 11:04, February 19, 2014 (UTC)


 * I wanted to say that the Mallebale Chakra doesn't require Ten-Tails' jinchuriki when I saw the end of the chapter. But honestly, Elveonora has a point. He has his hand stuck in Madara's chest, then he started forming the Malleable Chakra. So for this, I would say wait of next chapter.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:22, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, like honestly, Malleable Chakra is 4 or more natures (+ additional/optional YYR) used with Shinju's chakra and BZ is Madara's will incarnate. You guys racists, not two blacks alike!!!--Elveonora (talk) 12:20, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

For now, what I understand is happening is that Obito is syphoning the Ten-Tails' chakra from Madara to make the shakujō. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:38, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Except that the panels explicitly show him turning the black material from Black Zetsu, on his arm, into the orb, which then turns into the shakujō. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 17:40, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say so. In my opinion he simply is suppressing Black Zetsu, the orb is unrelated mass. I mean, he made a staff, wouldn't have that taken more BZ mass if that were true? We don't know until next chapter I suppose--Elveonora (talk) 17:47, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * True, we can wait, but I think you lot are forgetting that "suppressing Black Zetsu" isn't exactly a very smart idea for him, since Black Zetsu is kinda the thing keeping him alive. And you can literally see the black ooze coming off of him and turning into the orbs. But I suppose the majority won't be convinced until they're shown flat out that stabbing your hand into someone's chest doesn't let you use their bijū. Next week it is >_< ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 18:01, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Since Black Zetsu is a jinchuuriki of Kurama and Obito gained control over Black Zetsu, wouldn't that make Obito the jinchuuriki? So that should kinda keep him alive I guess. And I see it differently. You see, it looks like Obito simply rolled up his BZ sleeve and there's the orb next to it. we don't see the two connected and the former turning into latter--Elveonora (talk) 18:11, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

What we saw was the BZ material receding, that doesn't mean it's being turned into the staff. The BZ mass didn't travel from his arm to the space above his hand, the chakra there simply appeared. I wouldn't say that Obito is the host of Yin Kurama. He maybe be in control of the host, but isn't himself the host. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:17, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Ten-Tails Malleable Chakra is called Ringa?
In chapter 666, Madara was shooting black orbs at Obito and Kakashi which was the Ten-Tails Malleable Chakra but he called them "Ringa". Is this true or is it some misunderstanding? :/

Oh yeah, I read chapter 666 again but from a different website and instead of Ringa, it was Limbo. What the heck is going on? --DetectiveDuckling (talk) 11:04, February 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just wait for the raws. Then Seelentau-senpai will take care of it.--JOA20 (talk) 11:10, February 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * But, the Ringa is different than another similarly named techinque? --Pat141elite (talk) 11:53, February 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Even then, Madara said he wouldn't use Ringa on Obito as he needed the Rinnegan. Then he threw two chakra spheres at them. So it's safe to assume that the chakra spheres are not Ringa, whatever that is.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 12:46, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Its rinbo. The translation on mp and mr is off. Read the ms version. MangekyoSasuke (talk) 14:07, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * This. Seelentau 愛議 18:16, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Senjutsu
In chapter 643, Naruto declares that the technique is Senjutsu, stating that "The toads' attacks are called Senjutsu, in other words they use Natural Energy. Now that I think about it, when I sensed the Juubi's power it felt like Natural Energy. Maybe you can fight Natural Energy using Natural Energy..." He effectively clarifies that his Senjutsu attacks can counteract the Ten-Tail's own Malleable Chakra, which is also apparently Senjutsu/Natural Energy-Based. Skarrj (talk) 07:26, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * He said that the Ten-Tails is natural energy, not the chakra weapons. Seelentau 愛議 08:14, March 3, 2014 (UTC)