Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909134305/@comment-34223563-20180218084635

i know this is an old thread but Tobirama hands down will win. Tobirama is a Senju so he has enhanced life force and physical energy. He made flying thunder god, shadow clone technique and edo tensei, he is possibly the greatest water style user ever and he also has high battle sense, high class sensory skills, high class swordmanship and high intelligence. Minato made rasengan and can use flying thunder god, he has average sensing abilities and great intelligence.Furthermore,he can use Edo Tensei.

Now i know everyone hypes Minato as the fastest but he and Tobirama seem to be equals. Minato can avoid a high speed hit from Raikage but barley avoid any attack from Obito in jinchuriki form whereas Tobirama could react and counter-attack Obito in jinchuriki form and not to mention get to Minato fast enough to take a bomb off his shoulder before Minato can touch it. He even did all this while Minato was in 9 tails mode i should add. And i know everyone says Minato's FTG is better than Tobirama's but if im not mistaken is instantaneous not instantaneous? And for everyone that doesn't believe me shunshin= body flicker.

And even though it wasn't revealed until recently but Tobirama did beat Izuna who was said to be equal to his brother in every possible way (could of been a fluke but i guess we wont know but i doubt it knowing how strong Tobirama is) and he beat the Gold and Silver Brothers (and for all you guys who say this isnt a feat, they were high class ninja with nine tails power, not to mention it was an ambush so he was already weakened). Minato split the nine tails between himself and Naruto (he didn't beat it because if he did there would have been no reason for him to die, plus the ninja of the village already fought the nine tails and he needed Kushina to restrain the nine tails so he could split it) however everyone gives him homage like he defeated it single-handily. He also defeated Obito which, Kakashi did it as well however both would end up having trouble doing it (Kakashi more so than Minato though). And just throwing it out there, but what really would the Toads do as well as barriers when this is probably going to be a high paced battle (also just saying time-space barriers only work when he has another marked location to send the technique if he doesn't have one its useless)

Speed: Minato is faster than Tobirama

Intelligence: Tobirama>Minato

Jutsu: Tobirama>Minato

Stamina/Chakra: Tobirama>Minato

Feats: Tobirama Minato (3)