Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-33286580-20180905090801

@VCombatIQmatters

Okay. a good reasoning on PS.

but you seem to forget one particular point i mentioned in my post... once awakened SUSANOO doesnt need MS. Itachi and Madara are prime examples. 2 of the 4 cannon users of Susanoo had at various stages used PS without MS active. Itachi did when he first used Susanoo and Madara practically had no eyes when he used Susanoo after he reincarnated. So blindness should not factor to Susanoo. 2 MS are needed to activate it and that is all.

onto Itachi. the guy had had MS for ages. the dialouge he had with Sasuke about Susanoo clearly implies that he had awakened Susanoo long ago. in all those years that is the furthest he could go with Susanoo.

Onto the MS blindness. Seriously it is a lot inconsistent to me. Itachi had MS for ages, but he hadnt gone blind over the years. only in his last fight did he start showing his eyes going blind. even Kakashi, a non Uchiha, had a decent amount of go and still took a time to go blind. On the other hand Sasuke uses his MS a few times and he already feels the effect, even when he is supposed to be the reincarnation of Indra which should have given him more time of sorts.

OH YEAH! that was Rasengan that destroyed Asura Path. i completely forgot about it. i just thought it was simple punch after so long seeing that Naruto had not used the Kage Bunshin yet.

On that note... Does this mean Naruto was already capable of using Rasengan one handed? wait he also later used Kage Bunshin again to form Rasengan. but there was also no one in Gamabunta's mouth when he did the double Rasengan.... a cool topic to debate.

the Genjutsu bit. fastest means. jeez. they were mostly unable to break it. that is why they went Sharingan haxx mode. and comparing Killer B abd this situation... you do know that unlike Gyuuki is residing within B and is a mass of CHakra. and seriously, the best they could think of was putting each other in Genjutsu, which requires use of Chakra, and since their Genjutsu has to be possibly be much stronger to break free of the weaker one, and thus wasting chakra while they were fighting a perfect Sage. it is not like they could simply use simple means like having the other break the Genjutsu by touching them and passing their chakra onto the other, it is not like they have huge chakra zords at their disposals and already loaded. it is not liking simply biting the edge of your lips like Kurenai did could break Genjutsu. (well the latter may not work on Itachi but still). on that note B and Gyuki example fits perfectly. all Gyuki has to do is pass a bit of chakra into B and the Genjutsu is broken.... but ... itachi was like... lets use Chakra taxing Genjutsu while we are fighting a really powerful enemy.