Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29769110-20170327210757/@comment-26773508-20170425094258

Ok my two cents on the whole PS issue, which seems a tad bit retarded. It is far more rational to assume EMS Madara had PS without Kyuubi enhancements than to assume otherwise. The argument is that neither EMS Madara nor EMS Sasuke were shown using PS in absence of Kurama chakra. So many have come to assume that the PS needs Kurama enhancements. I call bs on that.

The reason being Madara's statement about other shinobi stating that "anyone who sees the PS dies." The obvious retort is that Hashirama and other Senjus saw Madara's PS in anime fillers, yet they survived. Ergo, Madara's statement is bs, which is obviously the case. However, the bs is only about the part about PS being an automatic death sentence, NOT about EMS Madara possessing the PS.

For understanding the context better, we have another bs statement that was repeated throughout the manga: "Copy Ninja Kakashi, the shinobi who has copied a thousand jutsus with his sharingan!" Obviously, the claim about Kakashi copying a thousand jutsus is most likely nothing more than bullshit. But that does NOT mean that Kakashi's sharingan cannot copy jutsus.

THIS is where the anti-PS crowd are making an idiotic fallacy. Kakashi's Thousand Jutsu hype is just an exaggeration meant to hype up his skills with the Sharingan. It doesn't mean the Sharingan cannot copy other jutsus. Similarly, the fact that Hashirama and Tobirama have survived doesn't mean that EMS Madara doesn't have PS. It just means that other shinobi were so overwhelmed by EMS Madara's display of his PS powers that they used HYPERBOLE to describe their terror of that particular ability.

I repeat it again, PS being an automatic death sentence was a hyperbole that was used to accurately describe other shinobi's terror at Madara's power, NOT to accurately describe the abilities of the PS. Similar to Kakashi's thousand jutsus, or Itachi being described as "invincible" by Black Zetsu, etc. etc.

Seriously, the manga is so full of exaggerated bullshit that I'm surprised most of you can't make this obvious connection. EMS Madara did have the PS while during Hashirama's time. And many others apart from Hashi did witness that. That is how other shinobi ("They say that someone who has witnessed the PS doesn't live to witness it again.") ended up making that saying in the first place. Except, of course, for the fact that it was pure hyperbole invented by fodders.