Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28614651-20200422182101/@comment-6769189-20200518195726

Babyfriend1 wrote:

This is a strawman and I know wasn't just an unintentional misinterpretation of me because you contradict yourself later in your post showing that you did in fact know what I was suggesting could've happened all along So you werent suggesting that Naruto would knowingly let an enemy laun h an unknown attack in his face?

Because in response to that situation you said he doesnt always act rationally

Babyfriend1 wrote:

He still needs to have time to move out of the range of the attack if he wants to bail completely According to youhe is aware an attack is coming before it is even launched so he has ample time to get out of the way

Babyfriend1 wrote:

Here's where you contradict the other quote from yourself. Also, why do you think he could've stopped the attack in the first place? Its not a contradiction because you are saying a lot of out there stuff and im trying to make sure i understand all of them

Also, he could stop it by using TSB or chakra arms to prevent Madara from launching the attack.

Babyfriend1 wrote:

You might have a case here if his sensory abilities weren't an automatic feature of SPSM but in reality with SPSM he should've been able to sense the chakra build up. Asking me to prove that he could sense it is like asking me to prove that he can see something in his field of vision or that he can hear something someone says to him. You would have a point if they werent moving too fast for those sensory abilities to matter. Both Naruto AND Madara were shown multiple times to be cought off guard by attacks, being completely unaware anything is happening

Babyfriend1 wrote:

I'm not adding panels to the scene any more than you are. You said the beam got through the staff instantly but do we have a panel showing that? You said that the laser taking time to get through the staff is specific and therefore deserving of dialogue confirming it if it happened but is that any less specific than the beam getting through the staff instantly? Furthermore why would he make a character FTL in a universe with no other FTL feats or anything close and not leave so much as a "btw he's FTL" or even one dialogue bubble confirming it. So when i inteperate a panel depicting the launch, slicing, and dodge of an attack as having happened in the same insant is adding panels

But when you interpret the same panel as the attack hitting the staff and being hindered by it, Naruto noticing this and using it to his advantage to dodge the attack isn't adding panels?

Babyfriend1 wrote:

If madara gathers chakra to his eye it's unclear what jutsu he's about to use but if he gathers it to his mouth 9/10 times he's gonna shoot something out How does that make a difference?

How does that change the fact that Naruto was surprised by it?

This doesnt validate your argument.

Babyfriend1 wrote: Naruto wasn't mid-dodge in the panel. He was shown after having moved out of the way of the beam. Ye he was, the motion lines are still there motion lines past his position to let us know that there is is not done moving, his hair and clothes are still being dragged into positon

Babyfriend1 wrote:

I already explained how his exclamation doesn't mean he didn't sense the chakra build up not to mention how he's only shown exclaiming after the beam is swung at him so if anything that is probably what he was surprised about. Adding panels and words again. We are only ever shown Naruto being cought off guard by Limbo and then dodging the beam.

All of your arguments are based on assumptions and that Naruto is choosing to be reactive to things he is aware are coming instead of proactively trying to stop them from coming in the first place