Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32466165-20170722022140/@comment-32457608-20170823113331

Mr. Grave wrote: Hungry Ghost realm wrote: Zetsu never included rinnegan, byakugan , sharingan. He only said sharingan and byakugan so?He was vaguely referring to the power of rinnesharingan accept that youre wrong. Sasuke never deduced it like that he could clearly see a new eye forming in madara's forehead as he could see through his susano'O. So there was no reason he really shouldnt have said " his rinnesharingan" accept the fact that every language dont work according to your dreams it can be vague or are you saying kaguta doesnt have the power of rinnegan? Ohh maybe thats it cuz the rinnegan never casted genjutsu. Youre clearly in shame bcuz your stepped the wrong foot without through research.Admit you were wrong. In shame? Why are you making it look like you caught me peeing on the roof of a kindergarten?

And no, I'm not wrong. Read my earlier post again - I did say that Kaguya cast Infinite Tsukuyomi VIA her Rinne-Sharingan that she has in her forehead. She used the Sharingan properties of a Rinne-Sharingan to cast the genjutsu and she used the Byakugan to expand the range of the jutsu. Re-read that panel you just linked at me - at no point did Zetsu explicitly say that Kaguya had a Sharingan with which she cast IT. He only said that she possessed the powers of a Sharingan and by that he meant the ability to cast genjutsu, something which the Rinnegan properties of a Rinne-Sharingan can't do on their own and that is why they weren't mentioned.

And Sasuke can't see through his Susanoo. And even if he could, how the fuck would he know what a Rinne-Sharingan is like? Even his statement: The Rinnegan's genjutsu can be dispelled by the Rinnegan itself...most likely. denotes that he's unsure. Let's not forget he got all knowledge regarding these things from a convo. with Hagoromo - he knew about this theoretically, but was not sure if it'll work out eventually. Plus, I don't think it was a huge logical leap for Sasuke to think that the genjutsu was cast by a Rinnegan considering that Madara spent most of his time trying to get his hands on a Rinnegan in order to awaken the Rinne-Sharingan and cast the genjutsu.

And let me just turn your logic against you for a moment - if Sasuke's "Rinne-Sharingan" being referred to as a Rinnegan is mistranslation, how come Sasuke saying that a Rinnegan genjutsu can be dispelled by a Rinnegan is NOT mistranslation? What, did you find some mistake-proof sources or something? You know why we are even debating this? Because you were arguing that the language cannot be vague when did I say kaguya didnt have sharinnegan?When did I say madara didnt have sharinnegan? I was saying sasuke's one was also sharinnegan and giving proof that in the manga many characters were vague in the saying the name of that dojutsu. "How tf he gonna see madara's eye"huh?he has the fucking sharinnegan and EMS to see through things ! What are you saying?Are you messing around?and he was talking about whether his eye could break the genjutsu of madara's eye not that they were both not the same eyes.So what the hell are ypu talking about.Sasuke was vague about madara's middle eye by saying "His rinnegan" and its fact what the hell are you trying to say? And zertsu never said " had the power of rinnesharingan and byakugan" he said "sharingan and byakugan" and its clear kaguya has rinnesharingan so he was vague.These arguments were to prove that people could be vague about dojutsu names not anything else stop twisting my argument. You just contradicted yourself by the way: Rinnegan cant cast genjutsu and so how can sasuke say "rinnegan genjutsu can break rinnegan genjutsu" when that clearly is implying rinnegan cast genjutsi by your logic which dont accept vagueness?