Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27233105-20160130092635/@comment-27660682-20160223074611

Not really, because what you said still has many implications in this fight, and the misleading information you are stating has caused users here to believe that the kyubbi can release minato from tsyukyomi. This section isnt even a debate, as what I said is factual not only by science, its also confirmed in the manga. Your theory isnt farfetched, its just outright impossible. Its the equivalent of saying the earth isnt round. When I found that manga panel on chapter 257 page 7, it pretty much sealed the deal, even though my previous arguments were good enough to convey the truth fo because perception of time=/= real time for the millionth time. On that panel, kakashi pretty much confirms that tsyukyomi being instant is the reason why the effects arent cancellable, yet you lied about what he said. On page 8 of said chapter, k itachi uchiha acknowledges what kakashi says as true. I find it extremely hard to believe, that at this point in the discussion you have not even slighest idea of why I might be saying what im saying, after countless different explanations that are overkill. You havent shown me a rebuttal to chapter 257 up to this point other than altering what kakashi said. Then I went on to show you physical examples of why itachi doesnt always cast tsyukyomi with time manipulation and how he has changed the time multiple times. Its very clear from that evidence that tsyukyomi is breakable by an uchiha, if and only if itachi applies the genjutsu without massive time dilation. If he does, then them being able to break it is meaningless because they wont have the time to break it and the same goes for perfect jinhcurki. A simple way to understand this concept is this. For example, Ayy has shown that he has the speed to dodge amaterasu at point black after ignition due to his high speed. Therefore he can dodge amaterasu, just like an uchiha can potentially break tsyukyomi without time manipulation assuming they are skilled enough. However, what if the raikage didnt see amaterasu coming? Then the fact he can dodge it becomes moot, because by the time he realizes it he was already hit with amaterasu,  so its too late to dodge. Same problem with tsyukyomi, when itachi dilates times he compresses the damage into one second of time,  so even if you could cancel the jutsu, you have no time to break it, and now you needed to be carted to the hopstial so tsunade can heal your brain. And saying you refuted stuff is another lie, as I quoted large logical arguments that you havent even addressed that counter your idea that the victim would be out in 1/72  of a second, meanwhile i have touched on everything you said and more with legitimate facts. At best, what you said is a fanon theory that directly contradicts the manga. Other than that, no one has explained how minato is damaging itachi through susanoo, let alone the yata mirror while the totuska blade one shots him after one misplaced teleportation he makes. Minato has no intel on tsyukyomi and because he thinks kurama can break him out of any genjustu, he will more  likely get caught, ending the match when he does.