Forum:Reorganizing rank and classification

To reiterate, I don't think we should be putting ANBU inside of the Rank property. Not from a "ANBU is an organization" perspective, but from a organization perspective, ShounenSuki already noted the databooks consider ANBU a rank, but a rank outside of the normal ranks (Though I'd like to see the actual statement, could it have actually said that ANBU is a rank within ANBU, rather than a Ninja Rank in general?)

From a good semantic organization perspective considering ANBU a rank just doesn't work out. Someone can be ANBU, but they don't have to have attained Jonin, theoretically someone could be ANBU and later become Kage, someone can also be Jonin or Kage and never have been ANBU. Thus ANBU doesn't fit within a normal hierarchy. The purpose of Rank was to define the hierarchical rank, the reason why we never listed "Genin, Chunin, Jonin" and instead just listed "Jonin" was because Jonin implied Chunin which implied Genin which also implied Academy Student. It was a hierarchy, even if you technically skipped Chunin and jumped to Jonin you could still say that person had reached Chunin rank even though they really just skipped it and went to Jonin. That doesn't work with ANBU, and as a result we get characters like Kakashi who were once ANBU but we list Jonin, and some characters where we list ANBU but never state what actual rank they once had if we knew it.

I'm thinking of redefining Rank and Classification:
 * Rank will be for the highest hierarchical rank that someone has attained as given by a village; Academy Student, Genin, Chunin, Tokubetsu Jonin, Jonin, Kage.
 * Classification will be for other specialty classifications like titles and memberships in ANBU; Sannin, S-Rank (s-rank criminals), ANBU, ANBU Captain, Per village Kage title (Hokage, ...)
 * ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jun 10, 2009 @ 17:01 (UTC)


 * It will avoid a bit of confusion and reverting, but I dont think ANBU fits into classification, as it is technically still a rank...I think for anbu something like Other Rank or something along those lines better suit it...And i think Hokage should also go under Rank..its better suited to Rank than it is to Classification.....Other than that, this seems like the right way to go..AlienGamer | Talk 17:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If I remember correctly, there was a debate months to a year ago about if Kakashi's classification or something was ANBU, and ShounenSuki showed up with databook knowledge that it was a rank and not a classification. I can't remember for sure, but ask yourself this: Why would I have a false memory of ShounenSuki giving us information? Exactly.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep....Its in Kakashi's talk page..[]..AlienGamer | Talk 20:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya. It's written there. It has to be a rank. As it could be seen that it is only for exetremly powerful ninja's. Also in many sites they have said ANBU is a rank. So it is most likely a rank. Cooltamerboy (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC).