Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34194151-20180809224927/@comment-34194151-20180828031407

@AsianReaper

Yeah, sorry didn't mean to come across as downplaying kakashi's performance against Pain. He did good but another poster was making it seem like jiraiya did terrible in comparison. Jiraiya and kakashi are roughly equal in intelligence imo. They both intially experienced difficulty with pain's exotic abilities and shared vision at first. Both needed to retreat and plan a strategy with their allies. You could make the argument that Pa did some more leg work than choji/chouza, but jiraiya executed his understanding that each one had one unique ability in his plan, set up traps accordingly. Kakashi set up a trap accordingly for his pain as well. Jiraiya has a slight edge imo because for what he could foresee, he planned perfectly. Kakashi should have been able to foresee another pain coming into the fray, because he already had knowledge that the pains could revive one another, and that they were all attacking the village.

It's hard to tell who exactly has more experience. Jiraiya fought in the second shinobi world war, not sure if he fought in the third like kakashi. But he still traveled the world doing espinoage for the leaf and encountered many ninja, he encountered so many that it became statistically probable that all 6 paths of pain nagato had were shinobi he had fought before. Kakashi has his experience in the anbu. But Jiraiya is also older. So I think Jiraiya actually has more experience here, and he should be aware of the sharingan tricks.

So in terms of intangibles, jiraiya has a slight edge in intellect, an edge in experience, and edge in wisdom.