Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26998824-20150920161424/@comment-26005711-20150921103419

Uchiahmasters wrote: Orochimaru stated that if Hiruzen was ten years younger at the point when they fought he would've won easily, well Obito's attack on the leaf village with the nine tails was twelve years before Hiruzen's fight against Orochimaru this implies that Hiruzen was in his prime during the nine tails attack, so let's see how well he fared. Hiruzen with the assistance of countless Konoha Jonin and ANBU black ops was barely able to push the nine tails back, whereas Madara is stronger than the nine tails and as such would be even harder to defeat and when prime Hiruzen wasn't able to defeat the nine tails despite all of that help there literally no chance for Hiruzen to win this battle. lets face it if it wasn't for Minato coming and summoning the nine tails elsewhere Hiruzen would've died.

Hiruzen has as much chance of beating Madara as Tenten has of defeating Pain. No, that isn't explanation. Madara can beat Kurama because he has Sharingan and can control Kurama, Hiruzen hasn't Sharingan. Obito (when he was 13 years old) was able to control Kurama, and Minato needed to die to stop Kurama. Does that means 13 years old Obito is stronger than Hokage Minato?