Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25139119-20140705022956/@comment-25272406-20140814095955

Rachin123 wrote: ShaRin'negan94 wrote: Rachin123 wrote: Sasuke wasn't born with the sharingan if you want to get technical. He became a jinchuriki. He earned it mostly because he could contain it and his father had faith he could put kurama's power to good use and that's what he did via war arc. Sasuke earned the sharingan and he used it every second he can get. Its his ability he unlocked but Naruto has the ability to access Kisame though its his power naturally but the case is its apart of him. They are unofficial partners until the war arc. But this argument is so unnecessary. Sasuke was basically inferior to Naruto at most points in time without the help of kurama but he had access to its power. Just like soul eater. They are partners. As Narutoverse puts it its the power of the jinchuriki. The power of both the host and biju together. But if want to go with before the war and without special help. Sage mode Naruto vs ms sasuke I'd put them around equal IMO.

only 2 things actually yes Sasuke wasn't born with the Sharingan but with the natural ability to activate it and every uchiha ninja has a Sharingan so.... and I already said yes Kurama is a part of Naruto but actually it only counts after they teamed up or at leat with KCM when he got control over it (still he got help from his mother ^^) False not every uchiha ninja has it. They could unlock it. Sasuke was one of the lucky ones. Says you. The only time technically Kurama took over was against Orochimaru and Pain. The other times Naruto was in control somewhat and only gained chakra or a cloak to perform things for himself. For example, Naruto made shadow clones against Kimimaro with chakra cloaks. Last time checked those were Naruto clones but also kurama's power. Like I said unofficial partners until the war arc. Naruto didn't earn the fact that he had ability from the start but he gained it and he used what he had whether it was involving a demon fox. It seems that you are being a bit hyprocrital. I mean the curse mark wasn't gained by his ability but became part of Sasuke and he used it. That's just that. What's the big problem. Kurama has helped Naruto in certain situations maybe many but that's the work of a jinchuriki. So by your logic we can't say the other jinchuriki minus Killer B are strong because its not their natural power we seen. That makes no sense. Its power they gained and made use of is all.

I acutally think that you don't get what I mean or what the difference between eyes and an entity is !!! Sasuke (like thousands other nuchiha) is born with the narutal ability to activate his Sharingan (actually it's not that special because thousands of people had one) THey are his true own eyes he didn't got them from no one

I WAS NEVER TALKING ABOUT EMS OR CURSE MARK (of course they are not his own power if you think about it, and I already said that)

But Kurama is living being which got sealed in Naruto after he was born and I don't say it's unfair to use him everybody would use him the only thing I say is that you can only count it as your own power when you have control over it (or team up with him) so before the war arc naruto could have control up to 3tails or so

And Killer B and many other Jinchuriki got control over their Bijuu (or at least teamed up with them) so you can count it

It's like Yamato said after Naruto lost his consciousness against Orochimaru that as long as he has no control over it he shouldn't use it because it's not his own true power he has to gain control over it first