Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30112523-20170118130051/@comment-9782468-20170120020149

Guy made it up to Madara very fast, what do you mean it takes time? And as far as effort goes, he has no limit on the 8 gates. He's just that powerful for the duration of the match.

Madara literally made a whole body shield in an attempt to block Evening Elephant's last step. When Kakashi warped part of the wall away, Guy punched Madara with enough force to break the other side of the wall, which proves he's strong enough to break TSBs in general.

Guy would just dodge the sword.

If Guy didn't have durability amplification against Madara, why does he need it against Toneri? Madara had much more experience as a Shinobi than Toneri. He also had much more in terms of jutsu and power.

KSM Naruto was fighting with Toneri on about even terms. 8 Gates Guy is much faster and much more powerful, he could just zip around Toneri's attacks and then land a couple Evening Elephants.