Talk:Sakumo Hatake

Chiyo had a wife
gender mix up? or open society?


 * No, you just read it wrong: "It is implied that Sakumo killed Chiyo's son and his wife". It was Chiyo's son's wife, not Chiyo's. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 10, 2008 @ 04:23 (UTC)

Sakumo Hatake's Trivia
Actually, Sakumo Hatake was not similar to the Fourth Hokage: they had too different endings to be called similar. Sakumo died disgraced while the Fourth died as the greatest hero. We actually cannot say anything about Sakumo's reputation nowadays. --Tserg (talk) 14:51, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * "Both were respected and feared throughout the world, both had nearly identical resemblances with their sons, and both died in their sons' youth. Because of their deaths, their respective sons would later grow up to be shinobi seen as surpassing their fathers." Thats the similarites stated. Nothing more...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 15:01, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I've been wondering... how do we know Sakumo and Kakashi were "nearly identical" in appearance? --ShounenSuki (talk 15:21, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well...For one, Chiyo mistook him for Sakumo, and her brother stated - after kakashi said he was the white fang's son - that kakashi looked exactly like him...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 15:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, he just says they resemble each other nicely. Chiyo most likely mistook Kakashi for Sakumo purely because of his hair. Kakashi wears a mask covering half his face, Sakumo shows his face entirely. We can't say they look nearly identical. --ShounenSuki (talk 16:53, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Chiyo attacked him saying he's the white fang....and check wat her brother says here here...and DB translated that same scene in a similar way soo......--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 18:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I was talking about that scene before. The wording isn't that strong in Japanese and my argument still stands: we cannot say that Kakashi looks nearly identical to Sakumo when no-one has ever seen Kakashi's face. They look enough alike to be confused with each other, but the similar hair style and colour would be enough for that. --ShounenSuki (talk 18:39, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I dont really get what u mean..specially wen a total stranger says "there's a strong resemblance" and another one completely mistakes him for his dad...but other than that
 * They have the same facial shape
 * Same Hair color/style..ish
 * Same Eye shape
 * Simalar Ears
 * Same Chin
 * Same Build
 * Same Height
 * Infact the only thing we dont know, is wat his nose & mouth look like..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 21:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * But since this is only trivia, and has no particular importance....do watevr u see fit...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 21:39, September 16, 2009 (UTC)