User talk:Seelentau

Soul Removal's new name
Is there any way we can make Absorption Soul Technique sound more...English? Absorbing Soul Technique? General Awesomo 22:40, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * ...what? Do you want a translation of the Japanese name or an English name based on that translation? Those names aren't actually supposed to sound English at all, they're just representing the Japanese word in another language. Furthermore, the same Kanji is translated as "Absorbtion" here, that's why I translated it that way. Oh and if you want me to answer you on your talk page, I suggest you put a link to it in your signature. Seelentau 愛議 22:53, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was just wondering if 吸 could also be translated as "absorbing" or other variants of the word. So that maybe we can make a better sounding name.


 * Also, I don't see the point of having a discussion being split up by two user talk pages. Why do some users do that? General Awesomo 22:59, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * It could, but as I said, this isn't about good sounding or so. People do that because it's hard to keep track of the discussion. Seelentau 愛議 23:03, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm just saying if we can make it sound a little better without disrupting the translation, it wouldn't hurt. But I'll respect this decision, and I'll try to get used to this way of discussing. General Awesomo (talk) 23:26, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Katsuyu
Can you please look here? I need your expertise with Japanese. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 00:57, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

white snake possession
Could you please translate what Oro says about that throat snake no jutsu in latest chapter? Thanks--Elveonora (talk) 12:15, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) so the translation doesn't differ any from what we've got already--Elveonora (talk) 15:53, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Episode 319 translations
Hi Seelentau, if you have a spare time, could you check the corrected kanji and rōmaji of Chiyo's Reverse White Secret Technique: The Uematsu Collection of Ten Puppets? (Especially the Uematsu's part since the subtitles referred it as "Esematsu"). Thanks in advance — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 15:33, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Any chance it's 蝦夷松 ezomatsu? Or maybe one of these? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:21, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

how could...
Hashirama recognize Rinne Tensei?--Elveonora (talk) 13:20, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, didn't expect that one ^_ a response I mean, but better late than never I guess, thanks. Can you provide some evidence for the Shinigami not being an entity? A line from databook/manga that suggest either way would be nice, unless there's none and it's just your sentiment :P --Elveonora (talk) 18:16, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

And that's quite logical, but sealing techniques seal/unseal stuff, not create ghosts. Also the "only the summoner and the ones getting sealed can see it" is fishy, doubtful it's just chakra manifested. Not to mention if it were true then once the technique ends it ceases to exist, the contents would have been gone for good. And yet, Shinigami summoned by Oro contained souls of Hokages. So if it isn't real, where exactly did the souls go once the Shinigami vanished, eh? :) Just a speculation on my part, but deities are so-said Omnipresent. There's no need to summon it, death is always present ;D--Elveonora (talk) 18:24, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

You said that. A mask indeed was used to summon it, how do you explain that? The mask most likely was created long before Minato and Hiruzen used the technique. So since as you say it's the same Shinigami, then in one form or another it must be real and reside somewhere.--Elveonora (talk) 18:33, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Come on, not that again, the "new NB" I mean ^_ it's more people that make up the editing community, of course there are going to be disagreements. Also I don't see speculation getting a pass, quite the opposite, as of late more and more people are against "speculation" or even well based "evidence"--Elveonora (talk) 18:55, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, do you like my profile picture? :D jk. Well, you might have missed the Shima&Fukasaku age stuff, nothing to add to that? Other than that, nothing I worry my brain about currently. But if anything shows up, I know where to find a reliable guy :D thanks--Elveonora (talk) 19:08, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Would be nice, I hate when information gets purposely ignored--Elveonora (talk) 19:20, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Tobirama and body flicker references
Hey, when you have the time could you please translate what the Second says upon his arrival onto the battlefield in chapter 631 and what he days again after seeing Minato cut Obito down in chapter 637.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 15:07, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:50, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Translation clarification
Hey could you have a look on the Byakugan and Shukaku's talkpages at the most recent discussions. We need a bit of clarification on what exactly Kakashi says about the dōjutsu and whether or not Gaara called the beast the reincarnation of a [depraved] priest. There are links to the raws for your convenience.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 22:00, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

I believe I might have asked this already (not so certain atm) but what's your feedback on the whole "shinigami and jashin = characters?" thing? In my opinion, the latter may not even be real, so shouldn't be treated as one, but the former is. And I have to ask, do the databooks/manga suggest that the Shinigami is an entity or otherwise? Cerez's opinion is it to be just a manifestation of a technique or something. I ask because I presume yours to have read them quite a few times and having both vast material and knowledge of Japanese at your disposal, maybe you could help.--Elveonora (talk) 16:45, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Naruto Raws
The site where i used to get the Raws was shut down, where can i get some raws now? Help me @Seel xD. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 16:52, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Call me dumb but i couldn't find anything :/. Could you post the link? Thanks :). Dan.Faulkner (talk) 17:29, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done already, thanks :). Dan.Faulkner (talk) 18:42, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, needing a translation
Hello Seelentau, I hope I'm not disturbing, but I'd like you to give me the exact translation of the phrase Sasuke said at the end of chapter 553, when he awakened the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan by killing White Zetsu with Susanoo and Amaterasu.--JOA20 (talk) 08:41, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

A translation request
Hi senpai, I need your work for translating the last panel of today's chapter here especially the last two lines in the bottom. Thanks  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 17:46, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I thought that Naruto will take a break on the next week. But seems to me it's wrong, the next issue will be released on August 5, 2013 as stated from Ohana.  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 17:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Second Hokage creating the FTGT
Can you check if the raws supports this claim? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 14:01, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

MS help
Can you take a look at this please? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 18:54, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that should be it. Page 8 right? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 18:55, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter #641 stuff
Hi senpai, could you help for translating the chapter title as well as Tobirama's and Minato's technique? Also could you claim your opinion that Tobirama is the creator of FTGT as well as about this talkpage? Thanks.. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 23:46, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, seems Minato lost his speech talent this time. No wonder where did Naruto get his weird ways of speech from?!! LOL xD  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 17:39, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Tsunade about Kabuto
In the chapter that Itachi ends the Edo Tensei.. Tsunade says something about Kabuto that sounded kind of fishy. Can you translate it?? Because it seems to me that Kabuto might have been working for Konoha this whole time.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 20:59, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 591, Page 4. This one http://img.mangahit.com/manga/0916/053698/04.jpg ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:26, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ok cool. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 23:31, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok so he was still an enemy.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:00, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Image Request
Hi, Seelentau! Can you make a Doujutsu image for me? It should be yellow, and it should look like Kakashi's Mangekyou Sharingan. If you can, then thanks you! -- DarkGolem700 talk 09:19, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter 593
Hello Seelantau! I was hoping you could translate page 5 of chapter 593. He mentions the form he changes into and I think it would help this debate. Thank you in advance. Joshbl56 17:47, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Dōjutsu images
Hello! Thanks for that translation I asked you some weeks ago, I'm sorry for not thanking you as soon as I could. I hope not to disturb you, but could you please do some dōjutsu images for me, or at least tell me of how to create them?--JOA20 (talk) 00:00, August 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry I thought you were the guy that did the ones on this wikia. Still, thank you very much for answering so fast! See ya.--JOA20 (talk) 10:32, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

flying swallow
A little request. Could you please post translations of everything that was said about the technique in databooks? Thanks.--Elveonora (talk) 20:21, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, thanks for the effort. With that being said, how come don't we classify Kakashi's raikiri kunai and Danzo's wind kunai as flying swallow?--Elveonora (talk) 21:08, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Translate
Hey, Seelentau-san! :) Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help me with something. If possible, could you please translate this for me? I only need know the summary for the one titled "pain and ecstasy". Although, I'm not sure if these are actually Japanese scans. Someone told me they were Chinese, but since I can't read either, I was hoping you might help me. Can you please, please, please do it (if it is in Japanese), pretty please~?-- Ninja Sheik  20:38, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

I see. Thanks, anyway. :)-- Ninja Sheik  21:13, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Translation
Hello! Since I think that the title for the "Jinchūriki Forms" page is kind of plain, I was planning to rename it, and for that I'd like you to translate Deidara's thoughts in the last panel of Chapter 277, page 7. Unfortunately I don't know if there are any available raws of that, but if that were the case, please do!--JOA20 (talk) 19:11, August 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * The page is called that because it's a general consolidation article that covers the transformations that ALL jinchuriki undertake. It's not supposed to have some awesome name, it was done so we didn't have a line of pages called "X Jinchuriki Forms", where X is some jinchuriki's name. --Speysider Talk Page 19:14, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right, but still, I kind of rememeber Deidara saying "is that...the jinchūriki metamorphosis?" in that page, so I wanted to see the literal translation and hopefully get a kind of "official name"...--JOA20 (talk) 12:11, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have access to all the raws, so that's not the problem. But he simply says "Jinchūriki no...", leaving the sentence incomplete. Seelentau 愛議 14:46, August 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Too bad then. Thanks though.--JOA20 (talk) 15:19, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

tailed beast extraction?: road to ninja edition
Hi, do you have the movie in Japanese at your disposal or on DVD in English? Seemingly, the way Obito attempted to extract Kurama from Naruto was the same as he did to Kushina and it's suggested to be a doujutsu rather than fuuinjutsu--Elveonora (talk) 20:18, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Translation question
Hi. How would you translate "飛雷神の術は あいつのために 使ってもらう"? You probably know the context...Tsunade is talking about countering Madara Uchiha's fire-style techniques. Thanks in advance--Karunyan (talk) 04:37, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Wood Release
Can you please weigh in here? I know the discussion is long, but skim through it if you can; there are some important points. At this point, we just need some other opinions as the same users keep tossing it back and forth and, so far, everyone has their own opinions of what's going on. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:16, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Chapter #643 translation
Hi senpai, the raws are out today. Could you provide the the actual translation of the chapter title and this jutsu? The barrier jutsu I think won't be changed, right? Also, could you translate what Obito said about if he lost his ability for using Kamui after becoming the Jūbi's jinchūriki? Thanks so much. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 16:16, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

tablet stuff
Hello, could you please translate best of your ability what does Madara say when quoting the tablet during his Hash chit chat? Thanks.--Elveonora (talk) 08:49, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

For the movie, circa 1 hour 33 minutes, just right after Obito possesses Menma. Later it can be seen that Kurama is getting extracted from Naruto and the moment he is interrupted by Sakura, it cancels (around 1 hour 34) Also I want your opinion on Yin Kurama = Black Kurama. Even in the movie Naruto comments something like "he can use the full extent of that part of the chakra" (referring to Kurama's) For the tablet, it's either chapter 625 or around... in the Naka Shrine when Hash talks about Madara becoming 2nd Hokage--Elveonora (talk) 21:47, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I was wondering how could Madara come up with Moon Eye Plan by reading that specific line. For the movie dialogue, so can you confirm it indeed suggests the whole Doujutsu thing was done on Kushina and extracted Kurama from her? Actually the very same thing can be seen in the manga, people just assumed those pillars are chains were responsible for the extraction rather than his eye--Elveonora (talk) 21:54, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sasuke's Tsukuyomi
Hello, Seelentau. Could you please give me the exact translation of what Danzō said about Sasuke's genjutsu in their battle? (Chapter 478, page 3) I'm kinda pissed off at some friends who just continue saying that Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi. Pretty please!--JOA20 (talk) 20:40, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Then the only thing which states Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi is that page in the Third Databook about Susanoo being the union of Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, huh. Still, thanks for the answer. Bye bye!--JOA20 (talk) 10:22, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Rollback
Hey, I just added the rollback flag onto your account so you can now use the rollback function to revert anything bad, I feel you are most likely to use this feature properly, as our translator. Enjoy! --Speysider Talk Page 08:29, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Barrier Encampment Method
How do you think this technique should be translated??--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:13, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * So 'Barrier Method Formation'?--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:27, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:38, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Naruto's chakra levels
Be that kind, were they stated to be twice of Kakashi's or four time Kakashi's?--Elveonora (talk) 22:48, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. There may be a misinterpretation on either side. Not 100% certain but it seems SuperSaiyan believes that Naruto's own chakra is 100 times larger than Kakashi's and it was only twice because most of his was used to suppress Kurama's. The general understanding is that the 100 times part was with Kurama's included.--Elveonora (talk) 23:19, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

Translation Request
Hey, I know you've been bombarded with these lately, but I think I found something that can settle our little Chakra Receiver debate. Can you please translate Chapter 569, specifically what Obito is thinking about the chakra receivers as Naruto tries to pull them out of Son Gokū? In the MangaPanda version of the chapter, its page 10, but with all that fan art they usually put in front of it, I'm not sure what page it'd be in the RAWs. Please and thank you. =) ~ Ten Tailed Fox 00:11, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you much. That just might do the trick. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 22:57, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Request
Hey, Seelentau-san! :) Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering, when you have free time, could you please translate Yana Tobos-sensei's latest blog post, the one that's titled "Volume 17 of Black Butler is Released" in Japanese for me? Pretty please? I can only get so much from using Google Translator, you know? You don't have to do it now or anything, but if and when you have free, may I ask you to translate it? Please say yes! :D Oh, I'm sorry to bother you about this, since I know you must be busy with other stuff.-- Ninja Sheik  22:02, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Aw, that's a shame. :( Well, all right. I guess I have to find someone else, then. Thanks, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik  22:26, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

My apologizes
In case you didn't read it, my apologizes for being a whiny ass.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 17:08, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Kishimoto's freetalk
Hello there Seelentau, I'd like to ask you to translate Kishimoto's freetalk from volume 66, if you may. There's been a lot of people in the internet claiming that he's saying that Naruto's ending is close Abe 21:49,9/8/2013

Just wondering
On the image at the bottom of the page; What does the symbols between the compass and the animals mean? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 09:02, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:01, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Translation request
Hey, when you have some time, could you please translate what Sakura says about her parent('s) rank while she is on the swing with Naruto. I'm trying to ascertain whether a specific rank was given for either of her parents.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 22:14, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot the details. It's in the movie itself so I'm not too sure if you be able to translate it off audio alone. You can check any website for it, or go to a place called gogoanime, they have a fast-loading player. I'll remove the link soon because I don't think we're supposed to have it, but it's around the 16 minute mark.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:08, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Dead Demon Consuming Seal: Release
Since the anime already showed the scroll, it occurred me to ask something. Do the kanji at the top of the scroll actually mean or give some information, or are they just gibberish, like the ones at Alliance HQ? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:26, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Just to remind...
if you have enough time. ^_^  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 13:23, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

old topic is old, but...

 * Itachi 11 > enters Akatsuki and cuts a hand > massacres his clan 2 years later, or
 * Itachi 13 > massacres his clan and then enters Akatsuki to cut a hand.--Elveonora (talk) 23:11, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

What does Hiruzen say on page 8 of chapter 619 please? Thanks in advance--Elveonora (talk) 11:38, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

It's cool, take your time. Not the whole of it, only the order of events is important. Did they order him the mission, declare a traitor and only then have sent him to spy in Akatsuki? According to ItachiWasHero that's what Hiruzen says there--Elveonora (talk) 11:55, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Great, I see, so he was generally speaking rather than narrating the order of events, thanks. So nothing contradicts the age of 11 then--Elveonora (talk) 12:54, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Misc requests
Hey. I've had a few requests that have piled up from recent chapters. I've all bit forgotten then, when I remember I'll post the requests here for when you have the time to look into it. Thanks in advance: --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 12:47, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * does Shodaime Raikage have a verbal tic?

Quick Question
Hi, Seelentau-san! :) I'm really sorry to bother you, but I wanted to ask a quick question: How would you translate this ハンナ アナフェローズ? Hannah Annafellows or Anafeloz? I'm kinda having a...dispute about how this name is translated, and I don't know a lot of translators. I was hoping that you might help shed some light on the translation of the name.-- Ninja Sheik  16:02, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, geez... I'm sorry, I kinda forgot to explain something since I posted my first message to you during school and I was in a rush. The BB Wikia is not all that, shall we say, reliable when it comes to naming (and other things). Really, the wikia, in opinion, sucks. A LOT. But it's good for the basic outline for the series. Thing is, the BB Wikia isn't like us, the Narutopedia. They are not active, do not have their resident translator (well, they have one person, but she is away most of the time like everyone else there), and they depend too heavily on fan translations. Before the series was licensed by FUNimation, the series, like many others, was fansubbed, which is where they got "Anafeloz" (because the series was never officially licensed before FUNimation picked it) since the wiki has been around even before FUNimation picked it up and subbed it. Therefore, I honestly don't think her surname is "Anafeloz", but "Annafellows". I know Google Translator isn't 1000% accurate, but when put her kanji characters in, "Annafellows" is what came up and FUNimation used this for both its English subbed and dubbed. However, working a wikia for so long, I looked into "Anafeloz". I know us wikia users depend on fan translations as well, but unlike the BB Wikia, we're active and also have a combination of Viz translations and our own on this wiki. Overall, the BB Wiki is really horrible, misleading, and looking at it makes me want to pull my hair out and slap myself silly for misleading the other fans on what's true or not (hence the reason why I don't edit there). And besides, I know FUNimation and how good they are. I have several of their anime on DVDs (gotta support my favorite shows and industry, you know! :D), and I trust them a HECK LOT MORE than any fan translations. They are good. REALLY GOOD at translating. They haven't given me a reason to be disappointed yet, after all.

Okay, sorry, I'm babbling. So, let me restate my question: Disregarding the BB Wikia, how would YOU translate Hannah's surname? I'm asking for your personal opinion, Seelentau-san. Oh, if by chance you decide on "Anafeloz", can you pretty please explain to me how you come to that decision? :3-- Ninja Sheik  22:08, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I see... Thank you very much for the help! :) I'm very sorry to have come to you about this, though. ^__^; I know you're busy with translating stuff for the Narutopedia and matters in RL, so yeah... Please accept my heartfelt apologies. *bows* Thanks again!-- Ninja Sheik  22:44, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Translation request (chapter 653)
Hello, Seelentau-san! I don't know if it has already been clarified, but just in case could you control the raws about what Naruto says in regards to Obito's parents? Because there are conflicting translations, i.e. "the people important to us died" or "we've both grown without knowing our parents". It's the right bottom panel of page 2, by the way.--JOA20 (talk) 16:09, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Translation request
Hello sempai, a request...could you translate for me the bit in chapter 657, where Madara talks about Sasuke's Sharingan, about the Straight Swirl, or whatever that means and how could i edit that into his page? Also what's your thoughts on Mangastreams translations over the recent months? Do they appear better in quality than before or not? Thank you in advance. Darksusanoo (talk) 01:13, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Shell Spear
For a while now, I've had the kanji for the technique, but I've never managed translating it well, partially due to not quite understanding the terms in English as well. From Storm 3, the technique's name is 甲櫓落し/Kōro Otoshi. The best I could come up with was "Shell Oar/Sculling Fall". I'm not entirely sure of what is the best way to translate the middle. My guess is that it might be a reference of the movement of the rolling or the spikes, or maybe a word play on 航路. Any idea? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:24, December 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Really? I find it rather odd that 櫓 wouldn't use any of its marine related translations. I mean, between tangorin and wiktionary, I found three translations, the two I pointed out above, and row. I say this because the guessing I made regarding the pronunciation (ro instead of yagura) pointed more towards these translations. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:15, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

This raw is Kakashi talking about Hyuga and Uchiha I believe
and someone on here translated it and I do not believe they translated it good at all. Can you translate it since you are very good at this??

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1y06yg&s=5#.UqQHt-KrS00

ItachiWasAHero (talk) 05:48, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Seelentau ItachiWasAHero (talk) 11:30, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Kachōfūketsu
A collaboration ninjutsu from Ultimate Ninja 5 used by Chōji and Shikamaru is named 鹿蝶封結/Kachōfūketsu. Even the English game didn't translate it. The beginning seems to simply be Deer Butterfly, but the fūketsu part is kinda hard to make sense of, even watching the jutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:44, December 8, 2013 (UTC)