Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-31278419-20170331010234/@comment-734582-20170412112306

Ancladar wrote: It makes sense to hate the demon yes. Not the host. Treating the host like garbage so he has an emotional breakdown is kinda a sure fire way to let the demon out. I don't think the village was aware that there was a host. Judging from the various jinchuriki and their treatments, it seems the general belief was that the Biju basically took over their host completely, all the time. Starscream1998 wrote: (yes I know his motivations are more complex blah blah but they're not explained very well) His motivations are actually literally, word by word, explained by Obito himself. The reason everyone misunderstands is because a perfectly fine character with perfectly fine motivations all of a sudden became "the coolest guy", and it got worse with Rin waiting for him in the afterlife which just made the misconception even worse.

He was already depressed before Rin died. She was the final straw, not the reason. Rin was Obito's equivalent of Iruka, basically the only person in his life that gave a shit about him. But yea, that was fucked up during the Kaguya arc. Starscream1998 wrote: maybe fight Guy (who actually dies in the fight because it was hugely disrespectful for Kishi to not go through with allowing Might Guy his moment of glory) Agreed. Again and again "the 8th gate kills you". Then it happens and oh hey it's survivable.

Starscream1998 wrote: yes the Infinite Tsukiyomi is mind control because that's what Tobi described it as at the summit before it got retconned into being some lovey dovey dream simulator I want to point out that even as the Lotus Eater Machine, it's still mind control. It's just a mind control set up so people don't resist being plant food. I don't see why it couldn't be altered for any other purpose. Hell, Sasuke hijacking the Lotus Eater version for his own purposes is an even better idea. Starscream1998 wrote: oh and I'd kill off Sai instead of Neji and don't ask me to explain because you damn well know why I'd change that. I have yet to see a fan defend the choice to kill Neji. Sai's on my own shortlist of "characters that outlived their purpose". Others are for example Kiba and Choji. Starscream1998 wrote: I'd make would be to streamline the final parts of the story by having the antagonists be Tobi/Madara and Sasuke because for the love of Kami we did NOT need the convoluted, contradictory, ass pull plot no jutsu BS we actually got. yea i feel the series should've taken another ~100 chapters just to properly set up everything in the 4th war and answer the many many questions it raised. That, or streamline it. Personally i think Madara was overused and well his rampage is fun to watch because it's the cherry on the Over The Top cake, but i felt the whole "madara is behind everything" trope to become tiresome. I'd prefer if Madara actually passed on his dream to Obito, ironically mirroring Hashirama passing on his dream to the Village. I also think it would've been better for Obito have fought his destiny and deny more of Madara's influence.

Although, replacing Obito with Madara works too i guess.

I'm not a big fan of the Sage being brought back though. It opens up a can of worms (how the hell did they get his DNA for Edo Tensei), and it's also unnecessary. The Sage was a legendary figure, the less we actually see of him the better.