Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180615221922/@comment-33308438-20180616182753

It's implied Madara cant use Perfect Susanoo without EMS. He never used it vs Hashirama. Gunbai convert's chakra into wind nature but its onesided and depends on the wielder's reaction speed. Madara cant use it in time against a literal monster as Kisame who has immense chakra immense physical strength and an all cover water attack which could drown Madara. Thats all there's to it. Gunbai's feats doesnt support pushing large containers of water like water dome. It will drown. Thats all there is to it.