Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-26636534-20180828133350

KyfieLita68 wrote: Sasuke's speed surpassed Minato's mental reaction, as he couldn't mentally activate Hiraishin before Naruto was on the verge of being blitzed by Juubito's gudodama speed, prior to Sasuke mid sectioning former, by activating Susanoo, in EMS. No, Sasuke reacted by using Susanoo, Minato couldn't FTG to Naruto, since Naruto was not marked. Later in the fight when both Sasuke and Naruto were caught by Juubito, Naruto grabbed onto Sasuke and Minato with a chakra arm and Minato FTG them all away. EMS Sasuke couldn't do anything.

KyfieLita68 wrote:

SM Naruto, someone who couldn't beat 5 of the Pains, with Deva on cool-down; is nowhere near the foot of his league. He can't even beat Hebi Sasuke in a straight-on fight. SM Naruto did beat 5 of the Pains. That's what happened in the manga. What are you trying to insinuate attempting to discredit that?

KyfieLita68 wrote:

BM Naruto included, is nowhere near EMS Sasuke in my estimation. His speed, firepower, genjutsu, are nowhere close to EMS Sasuke.

BSM Naruto is the bare minimum, needed to battle a superior opponent as EMS Sasuke. BM Naruto?? You mean TBM Naruto? EMS Sasuke doesn't have anything that can compete with the firepower of a full TBB. Speed? He surpassed the 4th Raikage, who is faster than Sasuke. Genjutsu? Not Naruto's forte and unfair comparison. I guess since Naruto can use mass shadow clones, means he is superior to Sasuke (Your logic btw).

KyfieLita68 wrote:

That said, Sage Mode is sky-to-land inferior to Mangekyou Sharingan; which provides access to Susanoo, an absolute defense greater than Gaara, and vastly potent genjutsu. When was it said that all MS grant Susanoo? When was it said that all Susanoo were the same? What is your evidence that Susanoo is a greater defense than Gaara's sand? Please address these points.