Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36649908-20180820043658/@comment-36649908-20180820173050

to Thekillman -- Obito was unheard of because he didn't do anything great combat related after becoming "madara". Pain was know for taking over the rain village--you just had to ask around. But even these two are far below naruto in terms of power.

To BlazeRelease--no one has reached naruto and sasuke's strength (I'll get to guy in a sec), the closes ones where Madara and Hashirama and they were considered legend and had strength out of fantasy. But naruto and sasuke are even far above them and reached basically god-level past what any ninja can reach natural or even with enhancements

Guy used the 8 gates to temporarily become as strong or stronger than Madara. But that was obviously not his normal strength and came at the cost of his live if naruto hadn't saved him.

To Vladosaurus--I hope you are right and kawaki just didn't know what he was talking about.