Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-142748-20160508060324

9 Arts dragon wrote: Sighs

1.Referring to overall combat including close combat which the best he's shown is keeping up with Kakashi and the guy was using intangibility....wow...incredible...

2.Minato won the fight despite Obito knowing him and his powers thus having Intel on him.Also teleportation is not speed.

Nagato would beat the shit out of Obito you've got to be kidding me????? 1. Obito was facing down two perfect Jins, Konoha's taijutsu master, and Konoha's Sharingan master and was winning. He was fighting all four of them at the same time and they couldn't put him down.

2. In this manga, it is. Minato defeated him in a battle of speed since it was the only way he could, and Minato even said he only barely won and that Obito saw through everything he did that night.

And Nagato stomps Obito? How? He can't counter Kamui, and Obito can get to his main body and drop him to the Kamui dimension before he can react. And how does Nagato counter Izanagi?

Seriously, you downplay characters you don't like due to your bias, making your arguments bad. @Super

We have no proof if Guy had Six Gates activated when they were going to find Naruto. All we do know is that Guy had it activated to attack Obito and then Kakashi arrived a few seconds after. The panel shows the proof. They arrived at the exact same time! Naruto was not moving that quickly when he attacked Obito just before being teleported. He was at least moving as fast as Base Guy. What strategy are you talking about? Faking his own death? I mean I'm quite sure Samehada could just tell Kisame that he's stiil alive because of his running chakra.
 * facepalm

Kakashi uses Lighting Shadow Clones! He switches with a clone. Kisame hits the clone which turns into lightning and paralyzes him. Then Kakashi finishes him off with a Kamui or a Raikiri to the head! The same damn plan he used against Deva Path! Are you serious Rachin123?! I'm saying that Kisame's ninjutsu is powerful and some can cover a large radius. Kakashi has no defense against them and will be forced into dodging while Kisame would be free to attack continuously. Kisame has loads of AOE Water Release, sure, but they aren't the end all be all. And it can even work to turn to Kakashi's advantage since he can create Water Shadow Clones to confuse Kisame too. and Kakashi also has a dual elemental advantage: water channels lightning release, and Earth Release is part of Kakashi's arsenal.

Kisame's whole method of fighting is detrimental in fighting Kakashi. He leaves himself open and Kakashi can confuse, redirect, and misdirect him.