Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29908830-20180221011538/@comment-11891028-20180224103512

BlazeRelease wrote: Finalninjadog wrote: Eh, Naruto won with the help of Gamabunta, which pre-shippuden he's only really summoned in a life or death situation, it was really down to their cooperation ninjutsu and Gamabunta subdueing Shukaku that Naruto was able to land a hit on Gaara. If he didn't summon Gamabunta then he'd probably have been encased in a sand coffin.

Unless he taps into tailed beast chakra like against Neji, then I don't really see the toads being that useful to him. He could always use the demon fox cloak to gain the upper hand, but he'd need to be quite emotional to be able to activate it. This.

And added to the fact that Gamabunta has his pride and attitude. He won't just come out and help Naruto for a freaking match. It has to be a serious situation(Even if Naruto could summon him again)

While on Sasuke's hands, he wouldn't underestimate Naruto, since this is pre-second Tsukuyomi Sasuke. He considers Naruto as a friend and a strong opponent that he eagers to fight with. And for that reason, it's likely that he would use Chidori against Naruto. So the fight goes on with Taijutsu,speed, shurikens, and fire jutsus.

While if Naruto does awaken the nine tails chakra, like he did with Neji, I think Sasuke could handle it for a while, since Neji was able to. Because Sasuke is faster than Neji.

And about the thousand shadow clones, it's weird since, Mizuki was overpowered by it. Because a thousand clones means Naruto divided his chakra by a thousand times, yet was able to overpower him? Mizuki must have been that weak. Since as I said, a thousand clones means chakra being divided a thousand times(and that even was pre genin Naruto without any chakra based training, even if the nine tails was strong, it still shouldn't have been strong after being thousand times divided, since it was just a small amount of it's chakra), correct me if I'm wrong here.

So I wouldn't give Naruto the win, just because he would have a thousand clones, since it could easily be handled by a single punch or be widely dispersed by a fire release jutsu and shurikens and such. Either way, the win goes to Sasuke because of his jutsu skills and physical prowress, and or Naruto, if he manages to have a sudden unexpected idea/plan under his sleeves by the duration of the match(which he always does) and manages to fool Sasuke with it.

Following on from what BlazeRelease said, I would imagine that doing shadow clone jutsu on that scale would also be classed as multi shadow clone jutsu which is a forbidden jutsu according to the scroll of seals. Although, Iruka didn’t seem to have a problem with Naruto using it against Mizuki, I wonder how Hiruzen and everyone else in the stadium would react to seeing him use a forbidden jutsu. Plus, if Naruto repeatedly creates loads of shadow clones then he would be using up lots of his own chakra and either collapse due to fatigue or allow Kurama to forcefully take over and have him use the demon fox cloak.