User talk:SuperSajuuk/Archive 16

Clan Etymology?
Hello SuperSajuuk :)

Thank you for your message. I just wanted to make it clear that I AM reading the messages posted to my talkpage. But are you seriously suggesting that all the characters from clans should have the etymology of their family name/clan name deleted from their page?? That means deleting both the Uzumaki and the Uchiha etymology from Naruto and Sasuke's pages. I understand that there is a point in directing people towards the specific clan's page, but each character's family name also says something about that person I believe, and it would not give the full picture if removed from there. Just one woman's opinion. --Michiyō Madoka (talk) 10:44, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re: CreditsTable
CreditsTable already handles multiple VA for the same character. Just include another line.

eg: Naruto Uzumaki JA: Junko Takeuchi JA: Ema Kogure EN: Maile Flanagan EN: Stephanie Sheh

Alternatively depending on why there are multiple voices the following might also work: Naruto Uzumaki JA: Junko Takeuchi EN: Maile Flanagan

Naruto Uzumaki [Naruto Uzumaki (Sexy Technique)] JA: Ema Kogure EN: Stephanie Sheh

The system will automatically list both and do translations for both seiyū.

For one off nameless characters (ie: The equiv of who does the "Shōnen A" role in a single ep) we should probably kill the link. I could just use an #ifexist, but the wanted pages link wouldn't make you happy. I could probably just make it so that when you use "[Name]" without the link before it the link is omitted. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 13:09, May 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * And, done. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 13:27, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Lua makes sense when you're doing a lot of conditionals, loops, etc... and end up trying to abuse Parser Functions to do programming. If your template is mostly WikiText with only a few parser functions it's simpler to just use WikiText.

seems to have already been converted to Lua. And not only that but the module takes advantage of the fact that Lua can loop over an uncapped number of arguments (previously these templates had to hardcode messy duplicated template code for as many inputs as they thought might be used.

The other thing that would make sense is our complicated infoboxes. Unfortunately they're so complicated and I haven't been responsible for so many of the changes that converting them to Lua might not happen. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 13:37, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

re: chat
Busier than ever. Not sure I have time to chat. Can't we just discuss shortly on our talkpages? 21:08, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Where do these users come from? I noticed some user inserting gibberish into articles such as "Sasuke has this Rinne Sharingan!" or so as well. Since IP vandalism is gone, all that's left is the odd user vandal. We don't get as much vandalism as we used to. 21:16, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Altered the block on the "Remember me fag" guy. Gotta learn to choose a better user name. 21:25, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't need a name like that appearing on the RC feed for any reason, do we? (What I meant was, him editing his talkpage and stuff) 21:26, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good god, I was determined to read something today and you all on this wiki got me distracted. ;D 21:44, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, very obvious. Hoping not too much of a sh*tstorm erupts.... 21:48, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, it's what we signed up for. Complaints come with the job, no? Oh boy... 21:52, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * (Talking with two people at the same time sure is fun >_> <_<) People dislike being wrong. It's a natural human reaction. Too bad it leads to pissing matches, dick-waving contents, and pure asshattery, but what can you do? :/ 22:06, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

For whatever reason, chat is not working for me. 09:30, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah yes. Before I go. Need to tell you this now: the likelihood of me chatting from here on out is something I'm unsure of. I'm out the house most of the day, so the most I can do while I'm out is edit Wikia on my phone. Chatting on my phone seems to be an issue. By the time I can chat on my computer, you'd probably be asleep. Telling you this now to avoid further disappointment in the future. 10:00, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * And yes, I have been extremely anal about the talkpage. 11:26, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Blocking
Ummm...

...so I'm not entirely sure how this works. But a lot of the time I keep getting blocked across all the wikis (and this is the only one I'm active on, so I suppose the problem is here).

The blocks are always on my IP address, and cite spam as a reason, and something called a VSTF. And the messages say I should contact a mod to deal with them, but the blocks are all across the Wikia network (and even on my talk page!) so of course I can't contact anyone. Normally they revert on their own within a few hours (like now) so I just let it go until the next time it happens, but I finally got fed up with it last night.

My home network uses proxies, if that's any help :/

--Chaosattractor (talk) 10:37, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I've left a message and hopefully it will be resolved soon :)

--Chaosattractor (talk) 15:01, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Classifications
I understand what you say but the jutsu listed even though they are offically taijutsu techniques, the fact of the matter is that the Raikage is using ninjutsu while performing the techniques via Lightning Release Chakra Mode. Even if they are not listed as Nintaijutsu the use of lightning style is used to increase the power of the taijutsu moves. It would be a diffrent story if it were just him attacking without the lightning style.--Greatsage92 (talk) 18:06, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Unnecessary content?
Hi! I was just wondering if the altered plot overview and the content below that in this were necessary. I'm not sure whether to revert the edits or not. :) Freedom Wall (talk) 11:28, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

re:
For probably the tenth time, being a moderator is not a free invitation to do whatever you want to do with the forums. Selectively removing portions of people's comments is inappropriate in all namespaces. You are free to format others' comments, you can remove the comment in its entirety if and when it deters from the topic, but you cannot alter the actual things people have said. ~SnapperTo 18:28, June 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * A sysop cannot do anything for "any or no reason", or at least not without serious repercussions. The same applies to all users, no matter what user group they happen to fall into.
 * The wiki trusted you to use the additional privileges responsibly and according to the wiki's desires, not to your own. Please try to remember that. ~SnapperTo 18:59, June 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * Pretending that's true, what Wikia allows and what this wiki allows are not the same. I cannot use my user rights to do whatever I please and neither can you with yours. ~SnapperTo 16:40, June 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * You would have me believe Wikia allows wikis to manage themselves. And I am telling you that, on this wiki, abuse of user rights is not tolerated. Sysops are granted some discretion in their actions, but that only goes so far. If they overstep they are answerable to the rest of the wiki and, depending on the circumstances, may have their privileges revoked. ~SnapperTo 17:06, June 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not the one trying to trying to give myself permission to act without impunity. That's your doing. ~SnapperTo 17:13, June 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * Have you not been trying to tell me that I, as a sysop, can do whatever I want? And have I not been trying to insist the opposite? ~SnapperTo 17:20, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

About my new PNG image
Hello, is the image (File:Nagato (Reincarnated).png) look okay to you? I've copyright for this image.--AlexHoskins (talk) 14:33, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Request
Ok fix thanks for remind me: --Fate Kage • (Talk!) 15:27, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) I know (like you said). I just ask him why he never visit our wiki... Just it
 * 2) Ok done.

sarada
sarada should be listed as a member on the uzumaki clan page. (Clear Waters (talk) 16:45, June 13, 2015 (UTC))

But on Sarada's page it says she is a descedent of the Uzumaki clan. Also Karin is listed as her mother. I know it might turn out later that Karin actually isn't her mother, but as of now it is a canon fact that she is. Its listed everywhere else on the wiki (sarada's page, karin's page) that she is her daughter, so the same should apply to the uzumaki clan page. I just think her name should be added back on. (Clear Waters (talk) 16:52, June 13, 2015 (UTC))

Naruto Clean up
What needs to be cleaned up? I don't want to bother much. But does it need info removed... fill me in--New World God (talk) 03:26, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Talk page archiving
Won't be necessary. I usually archive pages not simply for the sake of archiving, but if it's needed. If the page is at least 30k big, and those 30k are old topics that have not being replied to in a while, I archive the page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:30, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Highlight
This is an important discussion nas it would effect the wiki whole so could you please and thanks. --Rai 水 (talk) 21:49, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Too fast
Geh. You beated me by something like seconds here. Damn you XD --JOA 20</sup07:19, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Welcome Back?
Lol. Thank you for noticing, friend. I am trying to edit more. As always, I see matters that need settled and I'm trying to help out. Business as usual for Koto. ;D --Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 11:21, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Edit Summaries
I wasn't making the edit to "talk" to people. I just mentioned that in passing. There was an actually grammar edit being made. No harm was done, so what's the problem? Well, whatever. Fine.-- Ninja Sheik  20:29, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Summaries
[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Faust-RSI?diff=1043611&oldid=1042298 Please do not write abusive edit summaries (eg "what the fuck, don't write that section like this. Just no."), it is inappropriate and not warranted. :P] 21:34, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Since youre on...
Hey, since youre on, would you mind commenting on the current rock gun dilemma?? I know it's small, but O want to see where this'll go. -- Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 12:58, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

re: private discussion
I get enotifs of talkpage messages. And I'm not going to use chat for discussions. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:54, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re: smw bug
Way too technical for someone with my lowly skills in that area. Maybe UltimateSupreme will understand what that does and how. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:53, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

re: trimming
I work. When time permits me, I pick at it as I stated. I tend to not do so on the wiki and use a separate document.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 09:34, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

reference
Jw, Why'd U Delete My Reference To The Bolt And Sarada Combination Jutsu? I Put It There Cuz Someone Keeps Deleting The Posting Of Said Combination Jutsu. Bob1200 (talk) 14:10, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * How's It Not A Legitimate Source Of Information When Multiple Sites Have Confirmed Said Information? Also Can U Fix It So Its A Reference Like The Others With A 3 Next To What Its Referencing? --Bob1200 (talk) 14:26, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

A. I Can't, And B. http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/06/25/latest-naruto-storm-4-scan-confirms-kaguya-boruto-and-sarada-box-art-revealed-as-well/ Is A Legitimate Source, Its The Source Where Other Sites Get Their English Translations For The Pages From, lol.

Bob1200 (talk) 14:42, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Images
My bad. I've been editing on the One Piece wikia for awhile and I got used to their way of > edit first > take it to talk if there's an edit war > keep the image if there's no backlash. I wasn't trying to deliberately break the image policy but I'll definitely put more effort in differentiating the rules of both sites for future reference. --Mandon (talk) 05:00, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

re:
Sorry Sajuuk, but this whole wiki drama is stressing me out, as I don't like in-fighting. I don't think I'm currently level-headed enough to chat once again. 20:26, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Once again, I don't think that'll be possible. I'm a bit stressed. I just need to step away from the computer in general a bit. Quite honestly, I just need some peace. For me, it's best if I don't. 20:46, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Goddamn it.
You're no longer in power, and WindStar's decided to take a break for who knows how long. With no forum ops and limited mod presence, let's see how quickly the wiki turns to shit. As soon as an appropriate Sysop is online, I'm approaching them with my idea. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 09:42, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

"outcome"
So you've taken it upon yourself to remove your forum privileges, even though the majority of complaints were about your abuse elsewhere on the wiki. No offence but it seems like your trying to get away with minimal damage so you've selected your own punishment. --Bio havik (talk) 16:44, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

Despite...
our differences on a personal level I still consider your work for the wiki to be highly valuable and would not like you to become inactive. Just saying. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:06, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

Your Behavior
From what I see you're impulsive and not aware of it. I exhibit that kind of behavior in real life and recently found out I have combined ADHD (I'm 21 and found out 3 months ago). As a kid I believed everyone was out to get me too because ADHD makes it hard to make friends and looking back I found out I was being annoying and wasn't aware of it. Maybe you should get tested for ADHD and if you turn out positive, attend counseling to help you learn techniques to improve yourself. This is a suggestion from my personal experience cause it's helped me socially. I can't force you but if you exhibit behavior like this in real life and continue to, it could bite you in the butt one day like it did here. I honestly think your behavior were a result of something beyond your control.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 00:02, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Interlanguage
Hello, I recently ran into Narutopedia on Serbian language, since it Narutopedia as well as Spanish, German ... I think it would be good to put in Interlangugage links.--SuperSasuke (talk) 12:13, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

My Profile
Hello, I didn't think that I couldn't hold in my profile page a diagram. ^_^ I proceeded to delete it.--Sharingan91 (talk) 11:30, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. --Sharingan91 (talk) 11:40, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have moved all in the sandbox. I hope that I haven't wrong XD. --Sharingan91 (talk) 11:56, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Source
No. Not actually no but, I just figured that out. Having Otogakure and Kusagakure being realized as villages in the series. Even though they have not been seen in the manga, they've been recognized as villages throughout the series' anime. Paladin78 (talk) 20:46, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re:"Editor"
I...see... Norleon (talk) 21:26, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Need a Mod
I don't have the time atm to read whatever they were disagreeing over so hopefully my intervention stops a flame war. PS Nice job on the episode article. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:54, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

re: ಠ_ಠ
O...K then. Well, if you want to leave the wiki, then that's a decision for you to make. And regarding that code removal, I figured I didn't need really it anymore. 20:08, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * You may get mad at me for this. However, that's fine if you do.
 * Are you sure, you don't want to make that decision? You did indeed call this wiki, a wiki that many users invest their time in, a "train wreck." You also proceeded to call out not only the ones that opposed you (which is natural), but Dantman (for ignorance and indifference) and the forum moderators (who, by your words, "won't even bother to close threads" when you want them to). No offense, but how exactly should I convince you? Again, that is your decision.
 * I'm going to be bluntly honest here: What is wanted from you can be your intellect. You seem to know your stuff, and know quite a bit about Wikia and how it operates.
 * What is not wanted however, as indicated by some in the thread, is the general behavior you've exhibited for years to other users. For instance, how you act when something does not go your way.
 * Omojuze went out of his way and said he considered you a friend, but even he got angry at you for the way you act. I even remember that one time when you said I "[came] off rather useless." And I was honestly wondering, "What did I do to make you so hostile towards me?"
 * Elveonora, about a year ago, was extremely rude and insulting to many users. After his sysop thread, when everyone got their emotions about him out, I don't recall him being as cantankerous since. I'm not going to say that he's totally "changed" his behavior, but he at least improved a little bit.
 * It does not matter what I alone say if others continue to give you "flak for no reason." If you can also improve a bit in terms of your behavior, then eventually, you won't have such a hard time here. If you cannot, however, you'll unfortunately continue to have a difficult time here. 20:43, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I took a break from Narutopedia. There wasn't any drama on the other wiki I was on. How I choose to take my breaks is up to me. But I do not intend to leave Narutopedia anytime soon. That statement could change in the future. As for now, it's unchanged.
 * You weren't "forced" to lose your forum op rights. That implies someone swooped in, took it from you, and refused to give them back when you asked. You removed them from yourself.
 * Yes, you are not the only one that should be in trouble. Seelentau said some things in that thread that he really shouldn't have said (like, at all). Other users made it too personal and insulting. Everyone has their errors.
 * And since you dislike Ten Tailed Fox so much, I'll use him as an example:
 * Yes, he had brash and overaggressive behavior on the Dragon Ball Wiki, as you pointed out to everyone. However, he eventually went out of his way to apologize to the user that blocked him on the DB Fanon Wiki (You can even look at 10x Kamehameha's profile on Foxie's wiki and see what you find).
 * He even went out of his way to acknowledge that his wiki and the DB Wiki are going to coexist and have to get along with each other, to which I told him that he will have to set an example for us if he pleads us to do so. He even acknowledged that he no longer wants to do this for the sake of a "hate project."
 * TTF even admitted that he was the hotheaded sysop here on Narutopedia and told me that even he regrets some of the actions he's done here and how he's treated people here. He's still gonna be around here, whether he's a sysop or not, as he's told me.
 * You claim the "past is the past" when one brings up an error you've done a while ago, yet bring up Foxie asking Dantman for privileges, which happened 3 years ago.
 * I'm not going to defend Foxie for every action, because he's even been mean to me before. But if even TTF can see the error in a lot of his actions and show remorse for them, Why. Can't. You? You may not have said it, but why do you give off the impression that it's always someone's else's fault and not yours? Why do some things apply to others, and not you? As I see now, you don't even show remorse to the things you've told me that time in chat, as I brought up.

I don't mean to insult you, but I'm asking honest questions here. If all of this cannot convince you, then nothing I say will. You may get angry at me as much as you please. That's fine. I'm not going to fight you. Do I want you gone? No. But that's my honest opinion. Whether you want to stay here or not, is your choice. 21:45, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Very well. 22:03, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

RE:So long!
That was unexpected of you but your always welcome to come back. Have fun elsewhere :) --Sarutobii2 (talk) 21:45, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * whoa...so long then.. I'll be missing you, have fun :) --Mecha Naruto (talk) 22:03, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I will, thank you. Good luck further on. Norleon (talk) 22:04, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * It was a pleasure having you and WindStar as my senpais in this whole moderator job. I'm sorry that you had to go through so much toward the end of your career here. Hopefully, what I have in mind can help ensure that something like this never happens again. Best of luck with your gaming channel and real life. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 22:25, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, good luck. I hope you'll be able to remember your passion for Naruto without it being clouded by what happened here.--JOA2022:32, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good luck in your real life, definitely your helps here to me from starting editing the wiki made me a lot indeed, and it's a pleasure to gain someone good like you as friend. And we all will be missing you so much. Best of luck and take care for yourself. Thanks so much :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 23:15, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good luck, you will be missed.Umishiru (talk) 00:36, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll miss ya man. Good luck and hope you return sometime Lord 7th Hokage (talk) 01:35, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't believe you're leaving. Its quite sad when someone who puts their hard work into the wiki and doesn't feel welcome anymore and leaves. Its not like u need to be a part of a wiki toshow you're a fan. But I hope you the best. May we cross paths at some point in time. --Rai 水 (talk) 01:45, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good luck to you wherever you choose to go. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:43, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, things could not work out, as evidenced from today. We may have our differences, and they may be vast differences, but despite that, good luck for wherever you decide to go. 03:25, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
The chat ban is a 2h cool down ban, not an infinite block. You were also warned before hand.

Chat is a place people use to chat with each other and often discuss Naruto related things. While half the things you say in chat are either complaints or heavy discussions related to them.

I’ve permitted the heavy discussions you’ve had in chat so far because generally the room has been clear of other people wanting to chat and because I hoped letting things to be discussed would reduce the size of future discussions.

Today one user openly left chat because discussions of that weight makes it hard for others to chat. You complained about being ignored because other users started using chat to chat meanwhile the heavy discussion continued. And after you left, chat became very active, with a half a dozen people chatting with each other very enthusiastically about Naruto related things.

Chat being obstructed so other users cannot use it cannot continue. So here are a few rules going forward: If you cannot follow these rules you will not be permitted to use chat. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:08, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * If others are in the room ready to chat, turn down the weight of the discussion and let other users chat. If you cannot, find another time or medium to discuss it.
 * If you are so heated that you feel you are going to resort to harsh expletives. Then it is your responsibility to take a break and cool down; not to continue tell other users to quit. This should be common sense.

Archives
Sajuuk, user talkpages do not belong to the user. Users are not allowed to simply remove discussions from their talkpages. Archiving is permitted, but allowing users in this context to archive discussions implies that the archives are visible. The archive list template is part of that archiving process, do not remove it from your talkpage. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 08:23, July 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't care Dantman. Maybe you missed the memo: I have left this wiki. Stop editing the talkpage to cause me to receive unwanted notifications from this place, it is bordering on becoming harassment. --SuperSajuuk (talk) 08:25, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

RE: back
Thanks! I am regularly visiting, but still can't find anything to do but to proofread. Cheers.--Vecanoi (talk) 18:52, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Chat request
I'm online now. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 12:14, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Bogus block
Now this is truly hilarious. Alright, might need some time to explain: I came to this wiki basically after you left it. During the one forum thread in which I asked about the sysop request page, I noticed that the only one giving my posts "kudos" was you, so I checked your profile and saw what happened between you and well, the rest of the wiki some time ago. Since people here and then still mentioned your name in chat and elsewhere from time to time, I decided to search a bit more about you because you are a person people get involved with a lot apparently and I find it interesting to check such things out when I have free time. Aside from your youtube account I found you being active on that Elder Scrolls wiki and the first thing I saw...was that you were banned from chat, so I checked it out to learn about it. People talked a little bit about the one forum thread you made which apparently lead to your block, but the user Atvelonis was approaching me via personal message, basically telling me that I am you since I asked about you and your thread one day after your block. I told him that I in fact am not you and that he's mistaken but he told me he's suspicous of me nevertheless. He then said he's just tired and if I'm not you, he's sorry, but if I was, then I/you shouldn't be avoiding the ban by sock puppets. That was all I did and knew basically. Until you messaged me that is, I probably wouldn't have realised I was blocked on that sorry wiki as well. I mean, shouldn't they be sure they would not make any mistakes before throwing blocks around them? What a bunch of amateurs.

Anyway, please feel free to think about me how you want, as a stalker or somebody with way too much free time, that's fine and justified. I however am sorry for leading you to a longer block and will contact wikia to resolve that problem, giving the fact that I can't contact that Atvelonis person by myself anymore. A Wkia contributor (talk) 11:39, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well I still contacted wikia, can't do harm. I hope those people who you've mentioned can help you more that I can. Oh and don't worry about my block, my motivation to edit on that kindergarten is basically 0. A Wkia contributor (talk) 11:53, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not want to get involved so much, but after seeing that thread about your block on that wiki, I wonder...are they serious? So because I use the term "sysop" (which is the common term used on this wiki, as seen next to every "admin"'s name and on the page that's used to report things), I am you?? Also, the IP addresses match 100%? How should that be possible? We not only live in different countries, but even different continents. Are they even trying to make legit claims? But "even if this sock-puppetry should turn out to be false, the block would still be legit because some time ago, some sysops left the wiki". Could a community get any more imbecile?
 * You were right about wikia btw. They basically told me to search a different wiki. This is so stupid it hurts. A Wkia contributor (talk) 10:07, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * UTC+09:00 A Wkia contributor (talk) 09:36, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

:p
Good luck with. Glad to see that stuff that applies to others does not apply to you. Give my best regards to Gouenji as I won't be coming back. (Didn't have any other way to contact you, sry).--Omojuze (talk) 20:58, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Re: HNY!
Happy New Year yourself. I'm not alone here, Jacce, Seelentau, UltimateSupreme, and Snapper2 have all edited since the new year. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:04, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re Chat
I'm available.--Jizo 悟 (talk) 21:08, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Mod Flags
Thanks a bunch for helping out with that, I really didn't know what was up with it lol. AsianReaper (talk) 22:46, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

manga
maybe you should look closer. im only replacing ones where the anime fucks up and gets it wrong. they have a totally different design for the sword of Kusanagi. manga>>>anime. the filler design is not canon. you're being disruptive by removing them.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 07:56, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * I dont think you know what canon is. Mangas depiction i s d i f f e r e n t from the animes. manga>anime. look at Sasukes hawk, same thing. stop being so annoyingly ignorant.--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 09:38, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Edit Summaries
I do actually read them. I'm sorry if I did something to upset you.--Tuxedo12 (talk) 01:39, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Naruto Image
Thanks, I'm doing just fine. It's just a bit late now, so I probably should sleep by now. Hope everything is alright at your place, too. :) Norleon (talk) 17:28, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Forum Warnings
Oh ok. I have a question though, I know "message" is named "message" to place the advice you want to give, but I don't see any instructions on how to place the reason and signing part on the template. Can you help me with that? --Rai 水 (talk) 23:49, March 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh okay thanks again. --Rai 水 (talk) 17:14, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Fanon
wtfЛВеличковић (talk) 17:45, March 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * yes he exist, buy you are stupid
 * yes, but you call me stupid

rere: welcome message
I see... Thanks for informing me. --JouXIII (talk) 20:02, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Curious
What was the reason both you and Dantman preferred the word "sysop" over "admin"? (In full detail, pls) 20:06, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought so. I also comment on certain forums on the internet, and the "administrator" of those forums pretty much has control over virtually every single feature on the forum website. A "sysop" or even a "bureaucrat" on a wiki doesn't have that privilege, because there's still so much we cannot do even with bureaucrat rights (such as, granting bot, helper, VSTF and so many other rights, and not being able to edit every page in the MediaWiki namespace, amongst other things), so I always thought it was technically misleading to call sysops/bureaucrats on a wiki "administrators", when in reality they don't have control over every single function of the site. It would be more accurate to call Wikia Staff "administrators" (since they seem to have control over everything) correct? Or nah? 21:17, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * "Actually some wiki's on Wikia do allow bureaucrats to grant bot flag (but it's extremely rare, the only known case I know of is the Runescape Wiki). The default action is to allow bureaucrats to remove the bot flag (but not grant) from bad bots, but not many wiki's have this (the wiki's which don't either requested that feature to be removed, or Wikia Staff took it away due to abuse, or the wiki is bugged)."
 * Crap, that is correct, I forgot about Staff allowing certain groups to grant additional rights through further customization (for instance, this wiki, sysops and rollbacks can grant the rollback flag to others and whatnot).
 * Either way, I agree with you and Dantman, it's really bad to call sysops "admins" when they really aren't. 21:30, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * So it appears that the words "block" and "ban" are also mixed up as well as "sysops" and "admins". Fun. Because I noticed when one gets banned" from a site, you can't access the site (for instance, get banned from the chat, you can't access the chat). Get "blocked", and it's just like a read-only mode. 21:36, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * "some forums even remove the ability to log out to prevent the user socking the ban"
 * Let's be real: Wikia really needs that feature, since even Staff are generally helpless against a person who makes a ton of sockpuppet accounts (and I had to deal with that on the DBU wiki months ago). Dealing with users who make multiple accounts is not fun . Not fun at all . 21:47, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see.
 * "which is difficult to pull off without such things being intercepted with an adblocker"
 * Speaking of adblockers, did you notice this thread on the central wiki? Apparently, all of us have have to deal with this "trending fandom articles" ad in the middle of articles (which is bullshit) because of this whole "Wikia: The Home of Fandom" slogan (which is also really bullshit, but it would save us both time if I don't rant about that). I've been trying to get rid of the advertisement with code, and I'm too lazy to install an adblocker atm.... 22:01, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

leach wiki
LOL dont bring up that place here. Unlike here, that place is run by a bunch of blowhard retards and is a terrible wiki. A real shitstain on anime wikis--AskinNakkLeVaar (talk) 18:42, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Mod Flags
Hey, I dunno how these things work but Curse of Hatred has a flag now while I do not. If it doesn't work out it should be fine as long as I let the users know I'm a mod so it shouldn't be a big deal. But lemme know lol AsianReaper (talk) 23:00, April 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah no problem man, just thanks for helping out with this. I wasn't sure how to go about this whole flag business but you came and helped, and it is much appreciated ^-^ AsianReaper (talk) 18:32, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Please join me in chat
If you are going to have a back and forth with someone about something they posted on someone elses talk page, please don't do it on the uninterested parties talk page.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:42, April 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * And just to be clear, (and by clear, it means I don't require you to respond. Actually I'd prefer if you don't.) I am watching both of you.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 10:57, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reported
I reported you, and Munchvtec for supporting both harassment, and spam to vstf. User:Ivankaracheev has been spamming, and harassing me throughout all the wikis i've been on, because i blocked on the Made up Characters Wiki site.--Admin Jack Jackson Page I ignore Things I do 09:00, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re: lol
As I said, not your job to decide who needs to be banned or kept an eye on. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:08, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Noticed. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:17, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * They haven't been around that long, only for today. Prior to that, they were deleted because we didn't use them. And there's still no need for them, aside from branding users, something which I consider public defamation and thus am not going to allow. As I said, this does not fall under your jurisdiction. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:35, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Noticed. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:50, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Naruto Chapter
I don't mean no harm but Sajuuk leaving a reference just as chapter without a name source is when we are covering two seperate mangas is ridiculous. That's like leaving an reference as episode ?, and we wouldn't know what episode of what series. --Rai 水 (talk) 09:33, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Wtf man. Are you serious? Just like how the infoboxes are updated to seperate chapters by saying the series it is from, references has to too, naturally. Since you seem to find it pointless, why don't go and rant on about how pointless putting "Naruto" in the chapter number was. --Rai 水 (talk) 10:36, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay then by your logic we cam just put Episode 3 for the reference of the episode from the Naruto anime because we started with that series, right? --Rai 水 (talk) 10:42, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

My Archive Page
Thank you for adding the deletion request to the blank archive page. I was about to inquire about alternative methods to go about deleting it, but I see that my first choice would've worked best. --Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 16:48, May 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up, will do. --Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 16:55, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Hey
Yeah, sort of. Combine that with loss of interest in the Naruto series, mainly due to these NEVERENDING fillers (for f**k's sake, the manga ended in October 2014)… Had it not been for the spin-off series (though I gotta say the art style is too different from Kishimoto's) and the anime returning to the canon storyline, I wouldn't have returned to editing here. Thanks for having said hi!--JOA2019:35, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank for the help on the talk page, hadn't realized he disabled his account. So am I just allowed to add in icons they and others have made on other Narutowikis? If I can what "Licensing" do I use? Shock Dragoon (talk) 18:11, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, I could use a favor, how do I attach these icons to something in the infoboxes? I got these nice ones for kekkei genkai like Sakon and Ukon's (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Parasite.png) but have no idea how to attach it. Think you can help me out? Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:20, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

re: lol
Thank you, just keeping things sane :)--Elve Talk Page 21:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Re: lol
Thanks, Sajuuk, I highly appreciate your support. Actually, I was astonished to see so many accusations against these episodes piled up throughout the night. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 10:43, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Yo
Hey sorry about that, didn't see the message and left my computer before I did. What's up? AsianReaper (talk) 05:17, May 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Askin needs to be blocked indefinitely. He's getting on my last nerbmve with his uneeded edits. And yet the ones giving the warnings to him aren't even sysops. Smfh --Rai 水 (talk) 23:24, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

UK English
Yes, I'm terribly sorry for this misunderstanding .. Currently, I'm exploring around the wikia, and trying to correct grammar mistakes, so, I had the wrong impression about that .. I forgot the rules, but I refreshed my knowledge now ... SeraphAngel   14:36, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Talkpage Input
If you could add your thoughts to what you think on this and this, I'd appreciate it. --Rai 水 (talk) 23:14, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re: VG Jutsu list
I might, if proper redirection can be made. One of the reasons I have never moved that information elsewhere is because I know I have seen links to that page from outside the wiki. I'm not particularly enthused by the idea of others editing the list though, I'm quite the control freak as far as that list goes. I can link to every source I ever used to populate that list. Most of the sources I have are there, the rest I have as bookmarks. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:03, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

re: store
Attempted that before you did. Pressed the "show changes" button and made sure nothing was missed before attempting to restore and realized that all of the info was recovered. "Restoring previous content" would of just been the same as reverting a previous edit that was harmless, in this case. Not sure I'd call it "vandalism" (note: not interested in a lecture on vandalism, just my opinion). That implies malicious intent and clear-cut intentions to damage or ruin the article. Don't think he had such intent, it was just a really bad idea. 11:12, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Mass Deletions
I would have used batch delete, but because of a bug, there are a couple images listed in unused files that were actually being used in articles. Even looking with what links here didn't show up links, despite them very clearly being in articles. So, I had to manually check each image, looking through all the likely articles they could be. Besides, batch delete doesn't let me specify deletion reasons for each file, just one for the entire batch. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:04, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
The issue I've always had with him, and the reason I've always blocked him, is because his articles were always extremely poor quality, requiring a lot of clean up. However, the stuff they do cover appears legit, even though I only ever found one source. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:26, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

Page Rename
Why would you rename "Ink Spilling" to "Ink Creation" when the conversation was still ongoing. Please revert your edits. --Rai 水 (talk) 19:31, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Test account
I'll desysop that test account since that was part of a specific test, it wasn't a sysop bot. However inactive sysops showing up in the admin list isn't something that should be "fixed" by removing sysop flags. That would be considered a software bug and should be fixed by Wikia fixing their own code so that the random list of admins excludes sysops that haven't logged in recently; for that matter accounts with a bot flag should also be excluded. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:07, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

QuakingStar
Sajuuk come on now. You know you were trying to be prick about it to QuakingStar. No need to lie. And after I answered his question your comment was unneeded. --Rai 水 (talk) 21:20, July 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh yes I'm sure when you posted to QuakingStar, it was out of good intentions. Maybe your first sentence, but going on to say what makes him think he needs to be notified of himself being blocked was unneeded and obviously was to antagonize him, which he responded by saying what he did. Had you just say the first sentence only, then maybe he wouldn't have responded to you. And what he said to you was not even harassment. Stop playing innocent. --Rai 水 (talk) 22:25, July 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * Good to see this conversation is over. Everybody play nice now. Hint.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 23:45, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Block threat
I don't think you (or anyone) should threaten new users to be blocked when their edits weren't "harmful". I mean, (s)he didn't clear the article and wrote stuff like "NARUTOSUCKSSASUKESCOCKXDDDDD", (s)he just changed the character order. Asking her to stop in a friendly way is enough, so please do that in the future, k? :) • Seelentau 愛 議 15:29, July 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't, but others may do. If I were to edit in good faith and got told that I'd be blocked if I would continue, I wouldn't want to edit further and just leave the wiki. Maybe we should lighten the template's tone a bit. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:34, July 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * If someone writes the above in articles, I don't bother with shorter bans, because the user obviously registered just to spam the wiki. There's a difference in users that don't know how a wiki works and just make mistakes because they don't know better and assholes that just want to write shit in articles. I won't tolerate the latter here, so I ban them forever. And I don't really care about any task force or whatever, it's my job to handle these users, so I do it. That's why I'm a sysop, after all. Also, it's beyond me why you think I would listen to you in any matter regarding my work here. I suggest you save yourself the time in the future. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:44, July 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * I use infinite blocks they way they're intended to be used, don't worry. Again, there's no need for you to direct your words at me, you can do better things in that time. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:52, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re: ‎re: message:
Is that so.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:50, July 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * You can save the pity party for the chat room. I've been watching the "Template, threaten with bans" for months now. I've elected to not say anything because of my very "hands off" approach to dealing with the small things (and yes I consider this a small thing).--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 22:47, July 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Fine Sajuuk. We get that no one until now has wanted to change the template, and sorry that you happened to be the one to be put out there for doing the "norm" (warn others when they break the rules). However, the problem isn't the fact that now someone wants to change the template, it shouldn't matter why now. Change is normal. What should've been done was it being brought up on a consensus thread. --Rai 水 (talk) 23:30, July 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Please don't use my name to substantiate anything that you do here. I have never used that template and in fact have never used any of your generally useless templates. They may not sound that way to you but the truth of the matter is that they are too severe sounding. And as it is that anything you put on this wikia can be edited by any one else (within policy) you don't have any right to complain.
 * Also, Omnibender is a Sysop, you are not. That is the difference between him leaving a message like that on someone's page and you doing it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:00, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

re:
You responded. Just as I predicted. :P 10:22, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes.
 * Well, before two days ago, I hadn't edited in like, 18 days. So I wasn't really "active" either...
 * Forum op duties clashed with sysop duties on that DBU wiki (and RL), so I resigned then. Haven't edited on said DBU wiki in 4 months, so here we are. 10:32, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm a sysop on two wikis now. Though, it's unlikely I'd ever do the heavy duty editing that I did frequently on the DBU wiki, so that lifts a burden off my shoulders (There's simple mass editing, which I may do here again and the other wiki I work on, and then there's heavy duty editing, which is mass editing on steroids).
 * Eh... I don't feel like opening up the chatroom now... :/ 10:51, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Mass editing is easy. Heavy duty editing... not so much.
 * Ah, that whole "content moderator" and "discussions moderator" thing. Funny enough, I recall you advocating for a similar moderator group to the former years ago. I asked to be a content moderator on the other wiki I work on and was given full sysop rights instead.
 * As to whether the "content moderator" thing should be employed here... nah. I don't think it's particularly needed here. Funny enough, had that feature of Wikia come sooner, being a forum op, chat mod and content mod at the same time would have basically been 90% sysop.
 * Wikia has added a lot of "features", including that whole Special:Community thing (don't get me started on how much I dislike that and the badge system). 11:18, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Question
I see no problem in telling a user that vandalising an article can get him or her in trouble. What I think is more likely to get you in hot water is how you do it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:10, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * There was a time I also used template warnings. I stopped using those because I didn't use it often enough to memorise all the fields and what not, so just typing a short warning ended up being faster for me than checking the template page every time. I don't see an issue with using the template. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:18, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Rollback question
rollback is a single minor right, there's no point wasting time getting rid of the flag from any user that doesn't abuse it. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:19, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Really?
Supersajuuk. The page is called "Narutopedia: Sysop Request". I don't know how much more plain that could have been made. Why is it that you- who is not a Sysop- feels the need to answer the person making the request? Don't they have a talkpage you could've left a message on?

If you feel that your edits are being "restricted" because for far too long you have been operating above your function on this wiki, and your behaviour needs to be curbed. The person asked to lodge a complaint to a sysop, how about your allow one to actually answer them? I mean really, have you no shame...--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:17, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * I genuinely forgot how much is pains me when I have to talk to you. Please stop messaging me now- thank you.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 19:29, July 22, 2016 (UTC)