Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-38502514-20190216075013/@comment-38502514-20190217121554

I'm not really getting in to this with you, I have asked multiple times to keep on topic. This has nothing to do with real life statistics, not that the points you have made unfortunately connect with the topic at hand (hyena are not one of the animals I listed that represent this occurring in nature). And by looking at animals, I mean to say that if it occurs in creatures that aren't making social constructs, you can't say gender is purely a human design. That negates your claim that it's not a thing. Moreover, humans are animals, and it's good when discussing scientific affairs, to remember that. But again, this conversation could go on forever, and I wasn't interested in having a gender debate with you. Not for feminism, and not for respecting people within the lgbtq+. If you're not open minded to it, then that's your personal opinion. You're entitled to it.

And "chakra" is the reason Tsunade is stronger yes, but that's a concept made up in fantasy. No one in real life can magically use chakra to be stronger than a man three times their size. Much like how Orochimaru used magic to swap bodies and change sex at various stages. That was the point of my statement.

The point of the character was to show change and difference. Even looking at Orochimaru's speech. Rebirth, reincarnation... all to do with massive change. Japanese people have ways of telling a persons gender when referring to themselves. There are male versions of the word "me/I", Orochimaru actually uses the typically female leaning ones when speaking a lot of the time. So we have seen this since the start of the show. But again, not relevant.

Whether Oro was male 70% and female 30% doesn't matter. The point is it is constantly changing. So to have it as various makes sense. Because otherwise, we should, to be fair, be labeling it as whatever is in their pants. Which for all we know, could be changed monthly. Either way, confronted with the question, Oro answered neither. So let's do the right thing, and mark gender as neither. It's logical.

This is consistency, you were unhappy that it wasn't, but what we have done is made it more consistent.

I'm not sure what is bothering you about it. Various incorporates all forms, you can keep believing Oro is male if you don't support non-binary/non gender conforming aspects of the show. But to be true, and to show a full representation of the character, we can not ignore the fact that Oro has stated multiple times that gender is both inconsequential, and that both man/woman/other are correct at various stages.

I think Dantman handled it very well, I would have used a term that may have been unwelcome (non-binary), but they found a far more accurate and appeasing term. So I'm content with the change as it is. It's not neglecting very critical information, and it hasn't messed up the infobox system at all.