Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190805194702/@comment-43403813-20190806141825

I wasn't talking about the 4th shinobi war, I was talking about the Kyuubi rampage in the Hidden Leaf, when Obito HAD control over the Kyuubi.

Incorrect, Nagato was not panting heavily from creating the core, he was panting upon nearing completion of the Chibaku Tensei.

You're making out like KCM Naruto has no battle sense, when clearly seen in many of the times he fights, he has thought of unorthodox ways to counter his opponent. And there is a HUGE difference between Kakashi and Obito's warp powers that you obviously already know, Obito warps short-range and himself whilst Kakashi warps long range. Obito wouldn't need to aim at a Chibaku Tensei satellite to escape, whilst Kakashi would have to focus and lock onto the satellite.

Pain would indeed lose to Jiraiya if Jiraiya knew EVERYTHING about Pain, but it certainly would not make the battle easy. Also, I mentioned at the beginning of this page that knowledge is a non-factor between single sharingan obito and Pain, so it's irrelevant.

@Princeharris1993 Pain wouldn't just stand there and watch Obito suck up all the paths, he'd attempt to make the counters to it like I originally stated. The expansive field of vision would make it difficult for Obito to pull off surprise-attacks, and the Deva path would prove a nuisance whenever Obito materialises. To reiterate, I don't think Obito would beat Pain, or Pain would beat Obito definitively. Both their abilities can be walled and countered.