Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180305164721

@Legion

i admit that Gai stood long after using 7gates in kisame fight, but the thing is he only used the form for that one moment to attack Kisame. he was after it no longer in the form.

the point here is that in that time, between him first using 7Gate and later succumbing to the side effects of the Gate, he did not enter the form any longer. he didnt even fight. he was just standing around. when the time to fight came along when he got trapped in the water prison and was attacked by the shark he was out for the count, he could not fight.

so the time period cannot be fixed on this basis. it just further shows that the time limit for 7Gates is really limited.

Vladosaurus wrote: @Killer723 That Madara was also enhanced by Hashirama's cells big time, and by his own admission, that amped him pretty good. Fact of the matter is that neither of them are close to the Third raikage's speed, and he got caught by Naruto. And the other thing is that Naruto also has pretty fast attacks. He oneshotted the Asura Path, and that happened considering the fact that all the other path of pains were looking in that direction, and he still couldn't react to Naruto. There is also the battle with Kurama and the rasenshuriken. The third raikage had crazy reaction time, he reacted to a rasenshuriken coming from his behind without even turning around, but he still got caught by Naruto's frog Kata. Guy has no where near Naruto's reactions and probably Third Raikage's reactions, so Frog Kata would near impossible for him to deal with.Even if Guy manages to hit Naruto like Madara did, Naruto won't go down after one hit by Guy, not even close.But Guy would go down after one rasengan, and that's for sure.There are also invisible NY attacks that oneshotted a path of pain, and which Guy has no reaction to... and the funny thing is that we are not even taking in consideration Kurama's help here. And we know that even the slightest aid from Kurama is a huuge power up...

this...

this is what i have been saying.

why something so simple is not understood by most is beyond me.

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@Starscream

we are not taking the 8Gate Gai in the game and neither is this KCM1 Naruto.

this is Gai who can only go upto 7Gate and Naruto is SM from Raikage figth with Kurama help (like when clone base Naruto destroyed large scale Madara's forest jutsu with his clone army and big ball rasengan barrage)