Talk:Kimimaro

Family name
Kaguya is not Kimimaro's family name. The second databook states his name is simply "Kimimaro," with no family name. --ShounenSuki 09:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Usually a person's clan name is his last name. --Kakashi Namikaze (talk | contribs) 10:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Not this time. If Kaguya had been Kimimaro's family name, it would have been used as such in the second databook, just like all other family names. --ShounenSuki 10:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I wonder...everybody says that he is from the Kaguya clan...Orochimaro took him from the Kaguya clan...he was born in the Kaguya clan...he was raised in the Kaguya clan...and still you say it's not he's name...I think that he is not mentioned as Kimimaro Kaguya just becouse he left the clan and joined Orochimaro...and maybe he wanted to forget the savage kind of clan he belonged to...I can't admit that Kimimaro has no last name as long as we know hes provenience...--Yumetai (talk) 15:28, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Kimimaro is from the Kaguya clan, there is no doubt about that. However, we cannot simply assume his family name is Kaguya without an official source. Japanese clans are too complex for that. Being from a specific clan doesn't mean your family name is that clan's name.
 * To take a real-life example: Yūki Hideyasu (1574–1607) was a daimyo of the Tokugawa clan; the second son of the founder of the clan and the first Tokugawa shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu (1543–1616). Most of the Tokugawa clan members, except those who were clan heads or their immediate heirs, were actually held the family name Matsudaira.
 * It could even be that Kimimaro doesn't have a family name at all, as was the case in Japan quite some centuries ago. The famous Onmyōji Abe no Seimei (~921–~1005) doesn't have a family name, for instance. His name literally translates to Seimei of the Abe clan. Only centuries later did it become normal to use family names. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:20, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

I can call your reply as spot on...I'm officially pwnd :D--Yumetai (talk) 19:35, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Moving the Article
Since Kaguya isn't Kimimaro's surname, I suggest this article be moved from "Kimimaro Kaguya" to simply "Kimimaro". --ShounenSuki 22:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Ties to Itachi
Kimimaro died of a fatal disease... in battle... when he had the upper hand. Sound like Itachi's fight with Sasuke much? Maby they had the same disease.
 * It's a big "coincidence" but it doesn't mean it's the same disease, also I remember that Kimimaro had to be bedridden to extend his lifespan, while Itachi only needed some kind of medicine.

Kirigakure
Where has it been stated that he had an affiliation with Kirigakure? As far as I remember he just happened to participate in the attack along with his clan and nothing more.
 * His clan was allied with Kirigakure, but turned on them for the pleasure of fighting.
 * Even if this is the case, it was the clan who was allied, he himself barely had anything to do with the clan's associations until he was released to fight against Kirigakure, maintaining that there makes it seem it was somewhat on a more personal level (or at least that's my opinion).