Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34656247-20181008062436/@comment-34194151-20181012175309

@LegionZero

Idk what to tell you. sasuke clearly stated he was simply guiding the lightning that formed naturally from the nimbus clouds. totsuka blade is not instant, but as far as nagato is concerned it's instant because he can't react. Smh, how are the pains scattering from the blade when they can't react to it in the first place? You also disregarded the context in which they scattered. First of all, nagato didn't have the preta path available at the time, so he had no choice but to scatter, and even then he still reset his formation. When the preta path came back online they stuck to their formation. Secondly, rasenshuriken is slower than totsuka blade. the pains ain't reacting. Why does multiple summons even matter? At least one of the summons will be in front of the other pains, and when the blade is launched that summon, and all 3-4 pains standing behind it one behind the other are all totsuka blitzed and sealed. what is the issue? the other summons would be released because animal path would be one of the pains that die. we clearly saw that when animal path dies, all his/her summons poof away. asura charges like how he charged at tsunade? great, he gets caught in the totsuka blitz as well. poor nagato is now down to one pain as he watches 4 of his pains being sealed away and naraka is taken out by itachi's clone feint from behind. why you gotta do this to nagato lol? Lol no, kakashi saw when kurenai was kicked on to the water. kakashi had two shadow clones ready, one was protecting asuma, and one was watching kurenai and itachi. Asuma also was twiddling his thumbs while he watched his wife, his bae, go to work against itachi and kisame with her genjutsu. he would have seen itachi make a clone and alerted his allies. your other claim can easily be debunked because substitution is a thing. itachi could have spawned the clone behind kakashi then substituted with it afterward. Hell, we have even seen kakashi swap places with naruto's shadow clone, so yeah. so if kakashi can swap places in the blink of an eye with a shadow clone that isn't even his, what is stopping itachi from doing the same? nothing

kakashi's sharingan allowed him to see the substitution and then he was wary about kurenai being so close to itachi, the whole scenario was suspicious so he got her away from him. it doesn't even matter how itachi got his clone behind them. there were two kakashis's, one asuma, one kurenai. that is 4 sets of eyes and they couldn't see that itachi made a clone. I have no reason to believe that itachi can't replicate that feat against pain, when he already countered his shared vision before and he even gets clones behind perfect sages. your naruto point is also debunked because clones form instantaneously all at the same time. he controlled where they all formed.

Lol, so you concede itachi can create a crow clone next to sasuke faster than sasuke can see, run around the cave,  and appear behind kabuto, all in one panel, enough said. if itachi was flanking kabuto from behind why didn't sasuke see him? Itachi had no trouble reacting to kabuto 's speed. we clearly see him reacting to kabuto multiple times during that fight, so what exactly are talking about exactly? the only outlier was the one time kabuto took him by surprise. that never happened again, before or after.

lol no, kakashi planted a chain in the ground and threw a kunai smoke bomb. he was fighting just fine.

goodness, free fall speed is dependent on the height on which you fall from. the acceleration due to gravity is 9.8 m/s PER second, meaning your speed is increasing at a rate of 32 feet per second per second. Depending on ashura paths initial jump, he could have been high enough in the air to reach a ridiculous velocity by the time he landed in front of kakashi. Terminal velocity is about 174 feet per second, that is more than enough for him to covered that distance despite not being visible on the previous panel. Again, we don't know high he jumped, or when he jumped. Kakashi isn't the speed of lightning either, already debunked. By your logic kakashi is the fastest character in the series at the time of the pain arc. and no one can dodge him, as per black zestu's statement

and yeah, itachi slacked off for those 3 years too? smh. Kakakshi could't do anything speed wise to 30 percent itachi. so itachi is still much faster than kakashi, nothing suggests otherwise. next you will be saying hokagekakashi is faster than minato in shunshin because minato has been dead for years. people reach a cap in their training at some point. or, by your logic, v2 war arc ayy is faster than v2 flashback ayy, and thus ayy is now faster than minato.

Also, lol no. Itachi being faster than base bee is still impressive. Base bee was faster than all of team taka combined. ITachi was taking it easy on bee too. He didn't use his mangekyo on him. He only activated his mangeyko because he wanted to see if his kotoamatsukami crow was still in naruto. Itachi knew if the battle continued, kabuto might take direct control of him and nagato and then killer bee and kcm naruto are both dead. Itachi cared about bee and naruto, he never had killing intent. If he wanted to kill bee, bee is dead. No version of killer bee can beat itachi. Bijuu mode? huge target for totsuka blitz. v2 or v1? itachi can hold his own and catch him in tsukyomi, and use susano'o for defense. he has already proven he can trick bee into looking into his eyes, and that is all itachi needs to incapacitate him.