Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-9782468-20160128040953/@comment-24808887-20160130065904

@JouXIII and your list is wrong because:

Rinnegan IS not part of SP - CT:
 * Both TBB and Rasengan shares same categories and works same way.
 * Every time SP - CT is used not Rinnegan users also involved(Naruto, Hamura).
 * TBB comes only from Biju, wich by your logic leaves no place for Rasengan, still jutsu exists.
 * And Tailed Beasts KKGs considered as Naruto's one because of KKG user definitor(definitor is not atributed to any KKG directly) on his page and not other way around.
 * Databook description does not mention Rinnegan for SP - CT and notes difference between it and CT.
 * The way of creation(wich you noted as works same way for both jutsus) is different for CT user just creates gravity core, while for SP - CT gravity invoked by two seals when they hit target and these seals shown to be only created by wielder of SPS who happens to have Rinnegan as well, together with discription(wich still fully ignored on SP - CT's wiki page) it leaves no room for speculation about Rinnegan.

@TheUltimate3 i doubt ripping off beasts are possible for Madara since even for plot induced mentally weak Obito it required two TB dozen Kages(both alive and undead) and whole army of SA. Madara has no mental problems(by VS rules) and it's hard to imagine that four people(even if one has rinnegan, one has SPS and one has Rikudo chakra) can rip them off.