Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20160102030534/@comment-25442883-20160119133016

^that why I said 'to some point', they sure had to work hard for that but what i meant is that not everyone can reach that point of strength just by training. For instance Kakashi, he was genius but no matter how he trained he couldn't get there. They had potential from birth which they achieved by training, but not everyone have that potential.

On the other hand, guys like Minato and Hiruzen weren't incarnates, didn't have clan 'power ups', nothing, they sure deserve a lot of credits for what they accomplished. Home u get me ^^