Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27418151-20160521030355/@comment-28483245-20160521180339

Thekillman wrote: Ylone wrote: When he beat Izuna, he marked one of his kunai with his FTG mark. He can do the same to force sasuke out of his protective ring It means he has to enter that defensive ring via FTG, which exposes him to significant danger. It won't force Sasuke out of his defensive ring: Sasuke learned to deflect Kunai from Itachi, if he's not deflecting it with his own Kunai, he can block the resulting attack with Susanoo, which puts Tobirama smack dab where he doesn't want to be. Ylone wrote: Still think this is not "much" more than itachi's ordinary amaterasu? I think it is. Amaterasu clearly was the major contributor. Even so, as i pointed out, it only works if Tobirama actively defends with Water Release (since in this case it'll provide both significant amounts of water AND supply the heat), making it a long-term risk. I also said judging this is fairly difficult.

Ylone wrote: Your question does not make sense at all. I am saying that you would need much more steam than fire to heat up the atmosphere. The steam contains the heat from the various attacks, and thus directly contributes to heating up the clouds. The heat's not lost, in fact the steam will make the conduction of said heat only easier and bring about the clouds much faster.

Ylone wrote: So yeah, you're basically implying sasuke would keep his susano'o up all the time just not to get hit by Tobirama. Nope. I've repeatedly said: Itachi was able to use Susanoo in the fraction of a time Sasuke lowered his hand. Whenever he needs to block a shot he can instantly activate Susanoo to block it. Then he lowers his Susanoo awaiting the next move. Tobirama has near-zero room for failure: if he gets close, he's within range of techniques that would instantly kill him. Clones are slower than the real deal (See: juubito fight). If he resorts to clones, Sasuke uses a full Susanoo defence when needed - these clones aren't durable. Ranged attacks? evasion via Sharingan prediction. Combination of above? combination of defensive techniques. Sasuke doesn't have to maintain Susanoo.

Markings on susanoo would disappear when refreshed. Kunai with FTG are predictable.

Thus, i return to my earlier statement, about how previous knowledge will dictate the fight.

It's a double-edged sword for Sasuke. If he makes the ring of fire too wide, he risks Tobirama getting inside of it. If he makes a ring with a very small diameter, such as not to allow Tobirama to get inside, he risks getting himself burned and risks lowering his own mobility. You talk of FTG as being a technique that, when initiated, needs a time period for the user to transport to their target, which is absolutely not true. In fact, Tobirama has his own speedy technique: Tenkyu. If, and only if Tobirama is faced with danger, what prevents him from FTGing back to where he was?

I don't think there's somebody in the Narutoverse who goes by the name Juubito. However, seeing it's a clear combination of "Juubi" and "Obito", I'll have to refer to that entity as Obito, the ten-tails jinchuriki.

Yes, but the speed is not like it's cut in half.

Yeah, but you are missing the scale Itachi casted the jutsu on. He needed to set a friggin forest on fire, and then he even needed sasuke's powerful katon techniques for it to work. The question now is, will sasuke take up such a risk to spam amaterasu just to waste a huge amount of chakra for a technique which someone like tobirama could evade?

Yup, it's just that FTG is faster and quicker than Kirin.