Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34661853-20181224172126/@comment-35409024-20190115012740

MadEyes008 wrote: It doesn't matter when Madara used his chakra, he still could have activated Izanagi vs Hashirama and didn't. I didn't say Madara didn't have killing intent, I said it wasn't his main intention to kill Hashirama.

It does because Madara had to have Chakra in order to use it. They fought. Hashirama seemingly looked defeated. Then bang, Hashirama stabbed him from behind as it shows the one that seemingly looked defeated was the wood clone. That would be the only time Madara would and could use Izanagi effectively. Too bad he was worn out so he didn't. It doesn't matter what his intention was (i still see no proof that Madara's intention was only there to take Hashirama's dna), since Madara was clearly trying to kill Hashirama, he lost fair and square. If you are trying to kill someone, and you believe that person can beat you (which Madara has repeatedly said throughout the 4th War), then you go all out or you lose.

Another counter is Hashirama beat edo tensei dual rinnegan Madara with Hashirama dna. As if ems Madara could kill alive Hashirama. Ems Madara ain't even in the same league as edo dual rinnegan Madara with Hashirama dna, and he lost to edo Hashirama not full power Hashirama.