Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-3965545-20150720012206

Madara says to Tobirama right after stabbing Sasuke "In life we were virtually the same, but now there is a gulf between me and you" he was talking about when he only had the EMS. Tobirama KILLED Izuna so that doesn't need to be explained. DB4 says Hiruzen was stronger than Tobirama. Go look at OD's translations on her reddit page. Chapter 481, page 6 for Hiruzen blatantly saying he was the best of all of them and he won't die.. with Tobirama NOT contesting that. I don't make shit up.. why don't people get this by now..