Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-4961229-20170513225205

BlazeRelease wrote: @Cyberian. Everyone should have been dead over 10 times if it wasn't plot and mostly in every fight, there's always one opponent who doesn't know about the other's info and another where they discover their own new abilities mid fight. And I don't even wish to fight on a fight about plot, cause like you said it, every single thing is plot. I'm not the one making the plot argument. That's those other guys. I was just pointing out why it's silly argument. BlazeRelease wrote: And about your speed arguement on abour Raikage and Sasuke. check on Sasuke's wikia page. I'm a little tired to argue in a debate where the point I'm trying to bring was already stated in the wikia. Check on the wikia telling about his Taijutsu and then his speed which was able to match or even exceed at different times the Sand shield and Raikages lightning armour. Only time Sasuke exceeded Raiton Armor is after his Rikudou upgrade when he became faster than 6 paths Madara. BlazeRelease wrote: Susanoo arrows are pretty much sharper and much harder to dodge then catch, if you think he can then that's just your speculation.

And I'n talking about at the beginning of their battle, Sasuke uses Susanoo arrows at Naruto which the latter uses TSB to cover from. You're speculating yourself. You claim Sage Naruto, who has threat perception, plus the speed feat of dodging 3rd Raikage and strength feat of tossing a summons like Olympic shot-puts, is somehow going to get caught unaware or impotent with Sasuke's arrow.

You act as if Naruto was as pressed for time as Danzou. Look at how far away the arrows are destroyed compared to Danzou. Notice the lack of a speech bubble saying, "I have no choice!" unlike Danzou. Naruto effortlessly stopped those arrows with what he felt like using. Just because someone chooses a certain counter, doesn't mean that was the only counter. In the very next instant Sasuke uses the explosion to get close and surprise attack with Susanoo. Naruto stops Susanoo's surprise sword swing with the Kyuubi Avatar so obviously he had more choices originally than TSBs.

You're forgetting Sasuke never got the drop on Kaguya by himself, while Naruto did. when he sliced Kaguya's arm off. We know who's faster between them. BlazeRelease wrote: It' not that I'm saying he can't figure out or something, he also usually forgets the purpose. Like after the discovery of Senjutsu working on Obito, what did he do? he again prepared using normal chakra on Obito. That's a gag played for shits and giggles, like Jiraiya falling on his ass during his bout with Pain. When has it stopped him from defeating an opponent? BlazeRelease wrote: And unleds he can give one shit kills on Naruto, Danzo wouldn't turn on his Izanagi. and don't forget Naruto's sage mode lasts for five minutes while Danzo's izanagi has ten minutes. I think the outlasting method is not the best in Naruto's case, since unlike Sasuke he relies on this five minute sage mode. Danzou is only a significant threat against Sage Naruto with Izanagi. If Danzou doesn't use Izanagi, Naruto doesn't need Sage Mode.

As long as Naruto can make and stash clones as he's easily done many times in the heat of battle, he has access to sage mode.