Talk:Eight Gates

Guy?
When was it said that he can open all eight gates? Wouldn't he be dead? Zelwolf (talk) 22:45, November 10, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf
 * That still doesn't rule out the fact that he can use it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 23:00, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

I know he can use it, i Know that he can open to 7, but I was just wondering how we know he can use all 8. Zelwolf (talk) 23:02, November 10, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf
 * In the chapter Guy and Kakashi begin fighting the revived jinchūriki, at some point (either after they go version 2 or fully transformed), Guy mentions he has no choice but to open the eighth gate. This should probably be looked up more thoroughly and added as a reference to the page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:05, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to find that Chapter, I agree I think more references are needed.Zelwolf (talk) 23:08, November 10, 2012 (UTC)Zelwof

Blue or Green?
Sorry but just to verify wasn't it initially believed to be green from the manga and MUCH later on changed to blue in the anime?--Aburame41 (talk) 13:08, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's likely both. I believe the color and physically changes depend on the amount of gates opened--Elveonora (talk) 17:14, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, after looking around a little bit it seems like the whole thing started with a mistranslation in chapter 506 that has since carried over into the anime. I've asked around quite a bit and it seems to be the general consensus that it was always intended to be green(even in the seventh gate) but has been mistranslated and now we get this ridiculous switching back and forth from green to blue.--Aburame41 (talk) 16:28, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Doubtful it was a mistranslation, the blue aura is sweat if I get it right. I could have sworn both manga and anime mentioned it to be blue in Kisame fight. Opening more/different gates simply changes the color. Same with the deepened voice, blank eyes and red skin, not always present--Elveonora (talk) 16:38, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * A lot of people seem to think that the sweat was suppose to be green but nobody really seems to be positive. Maybe from gate 3 onward the aura grows stronger until becoming visible? Ugh, it's definitely a confusing topic.--Aburame41 (talk) 16:46, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

shinno
as i remember, the main antagonist of the second shippuden movie was speaking hypothetically when stating he could survive using this technique with his "body revival technique". As such he didn't say he could actually use it, he was just speaking hypothetically. Might i add that he never even used hachimon during the movie, again, hypothetical speaking and nothing else. --Caseather (talk) 06:46, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * should be reflected then--Elveonora (talk) 22:34, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Increase in power?
Do we have any idea of what the scale of power is in activating each gate, beyond the first few?

The Gate of Opening gives a direct line of increase - you're at 500% of your normal strength, essentially. After that, though, they seem pretty vague. The only real point of reference I can think of is that Gai's Sixth Gate Morning Peacock was enough to absolutely trash a Kisame body double (30% Kisame?), and that his Seventh Gate Afternoon Tiger did a similar number on the normal Kisame fighting for his life. I feel like 3x stronger isn't even enough of a gap between each gate to make the necessary climb, however - activating the Eighth Gate is said to make one as strong as the five Kages (From what baseline, I'm not certain; plenty of Jounin already seem close anyway), which seems like a big leap.

Just wondering if there's been any other reference to how much stronger one becomes when activating the gates, in a static numerical sense. Even a vague range, like Bleach's "five to ten times stronger" for Bankai.

TheWulfSage (talk) 10:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)