Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-1251315-20140820175011/@comment-1251315-20140908185310

TheUltimate3 wrote: How do you know they are useless? What makes them useless? A message would be deemed useless if it contained only a single word (eg, lol, ditto, or agreed) or simply didn't add any value to the discussion at all. A post that only serves to agree with a specific post is also useless, because that's the point of Kudos. Why are pyramid quotes bad? Pyramid quotes are bad, because there are cases when you quote massive posts, with a bunch of posts included, making people have to physically scroll a distance to see the user's actual reply. When you click the Quote button anyway, it stores what you are replying to, hence the blue link at the top right of this post "Reply to #92". Closing down flame wards and off-topics, isn't that in the very nature of public community forums? That's what should be happening, but very rarely does, to my knowledge at least.

@Windstar: I disagree that a sysop can't be unbiased. UltimateSupreme, for example, is generally neutral in all discussions and focuses more on the wiki's scripts and css, yet can get involved in discussions as a devil's advocate when necessary. That's the kind of sysop I'd like to see more of: people who don't contribute a lot to talkpages/mainspace but are there to jump in and give a neutral opinion or give warnings to users to tone it down.