Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-34115-20150626061048/@comment-25626003-20150626230647

Omojuze wrote: I'd think a simple refresher about what he can and cannot do, what he does and doesn't need to follow, is enough. I have no problem with his rights as long as he doesn't go overboard... Although what you say is fair, I feel a though you're being one-sided and that's the problem I have with the thread title. Why is this ALL about Sajuuk? Sysops are just as much at fault, namely Snapper, Ten Tailed Fox, TU3, and Tau (the latter two to a fairly lesser extent). They are the ones who've butted heads with Sajuuk on more than one occasion.

I do feel as though some editors here have turned a blind eye to poor sysop behavior, and have consequently turned their focus all to Sajuuk, which is unfair. Specifically, the threads Sajuuk started on whether or not TranClan & some other sysop who hasn't been active in over a year should have their user rights removed, encapsulate my point. The responses opposing him in those threads were disgusting, and Ten Tailed Fox even admitted that the latter proposal was senseless because it was coming from Sajuuk. This is why he feels the need to call the people he respects (Omni, Windy, Saru, he can name the others) into chat, even go as far as pm. This is also why he hesitates to even have public discussions about wiki-related things. There have also been discussions where they come off as if only their opinions matter, and in turn sway other users from making edits. Sajuuk doesn't take kindly to this, acts on it, and then war. Rinse and repeat.

On the other hand, Sajuuk has been a bit excessive with the sysop complaints. Chat has served as a means for him to air them out (correct me if I'm misjudging you here Sajuuk). Look, in chat specifically, I'd love to be able to go in and not have the same repetitive discussion about how the wiki's being run. I want to be able to talk about the Naruto series, random shit, light-hearted shit, sports like I do with Windstar when he's in there, etc...The sysop complaints have been way too much for my tastes. I'm not gonna exclude myself here either. I'm guilty of it too at times, and am probably responsible for fanning the flames. I ain't perfect. Sajuuk isn't perfect. Sysops are human; they aren't perfect. Therefore, what needs to happen is for Sajuuk & sysops to come to terms on how they can work together to make the wiki run more smoothly. Once this happens, the users will fall in line and not feel inclined to "take a side" as Norleon pointed out in his post. We're all editors here (additional rights or not), and there's gotta be a way where admins can get along and discuss things without it becoming a pissing match. In the end, Sajuuk is a damn good forum op and utilises his rights properly and enforces the rules where appropriate. Most of the sysops here have all made great contributions, and despite what I've said about them at times, have done the wiki a lot of good. It's just very odd that users without these rights can get along with each other far more often than admins do. Realistically speaking, it should be the other way around.