Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-6769189-20200531121411

Frwt wrote:

The elite senju are still elite, we're talking about Uchiha vs fodder here But their main rivals werent fodder so what does it matter how they fair against fodder? Most people didnt make it to see drinking age during the warring states so be necessity the ones who made it into adulthold had to be elite

Frwt wrote:

I actually can't Exactly. Its really not provable either way so we can drop that

Frwt wrote:

Yeah and all that matters is the chakra, that's the things that unlocks the eyes and gives you the powers Not sure where you got that idea. Sasuke got got his Sharingan and MS because genetics. He got EMS through Itachi

Naruto's Sage Mode, Rasengan, Summoning jutsu, shadow clone jutsu all came from training

Frwt wrote:

Ok then we have no idea of what happened, so can't say Sarada is an incomplete Uchiha Sasuke(Pure Uchiha) + non-Uchiha= half-breed Sarada. Its basic genetics

Frwt wrote:

Well why would 20 womens chose to take the harem way with a guy that has funny eyes? What do his eyes have to with harem

Frwt wrote:

Same thing, her chakra is derived directly from indra False premise.
 * Ashura and Indra's souls/chakra reincarnates, not their bodies
 * Reincarnates chakra are not identical to Ashura/Indra

Sarada was not born of Indra's flesh and her chakra didnt come from Indra. Her being unable to handle Sharingan for long periods only reinforces that she is half Uchiha

Your logic isnt supported by the series and is basically fanfiction Frwt wrote:

Orochimaru didn't he needed a body that he couldn't find Not even sure what that is suppose to mean.

Frwt wrote:

So? Draw a conclusion, how what you indicated makes her die from blood loss? She was stabbed in the heart. It doesnt raoe a rocket scientist to figure out that an open heart would causes massive blood loss

Frwt wrote:

They weren't describes as a branch that got separated, they were relatives, and vitality is also attributed as an Uzumaki trait, not a trait both had They werent described as direct Ashura descendants either. The series rather specifically said the Senju were Ashura's direct descendants

In 606 nagato is was said to be able to handle the Rinnegan ans summoning the Mazo because he is of Senju lineage even though he was from the uzumaki clan

Now since the Senju are the direct descendants of Ashura, and the Uzumaki are related to the Senju and carry the powers of Senju, that means the Uzumaki splintered of from the Senju Frwt wrote:

They don't, they just regenerate it, just look at Minato who couldn't even teleport to Naruto when the divine tree grabbed him This doesnt change the fact that as an Edo he can basically spam whatever jutsu he wants without worrying about dying. For all we know using 5 Release Great Combo would kill him under normal circumstances.

Frwt wrote:

But the possibility that casting water without water is a more taxing that casting clones by a significant margin isn't there, Kakashi could cast water without water and he didn't make a big deal out of it What chapter did Kakashi do that?

Frwt wrote:

And there is no jutsu whitout chakra... Chakra comes from within

Frwt wrote:

? As you said only Konan can do that, then problem solved Way to misconstrue that point

Frwt wrote:

Ah whoa great, anyway, as said above the point is the long time "Long time" is relative

Frwt wrote:

Yeah, I just responded to your point

What we know is that Kurama actually liked Naruto saying that he'll come in help for all the hatred he has Kurama didnt gove those words much thought until he saw Naruto helping the rest of the Bijuu and was lectured by Gyuki. That doesnt mean that he didnt like Naruto from the moment he said it

Frwt wrote:

The picth being faster than a punch doesn't mean that there is more force, the ball lauched will surely be slower than the hand who launched it and the hand who launched it the hand who makes a punch, all I'm talking about is pushing something, you have more force behind something that you are pushing than something you lanched, simply beacause the thing you lauched doesn't have a force behind it, it's just moving on the momentum you gave to it, while something you are pushing is constantly being accelerated by the force you're giving to it Thats cool but you are not describing the way Rasengans are actually used. What you are describing is something akin to being stuck to the front of a moving truck or being tackled and carried

Force=mass x acceleration

If no matter what arbitrary number we apply to the mass of Rasengan it would have a higher force if thrown because thrown objects have higher acceleration than punched ones. This is why baseballs/basketballs/footballs etc are thrown, not punched

Either way it doesnt matter a whole lot because Rasengan propels itself on contact Frwt wrote:

In what? Chakra compression? So he has a denser rasengan? Yes. Do you think all Rasengan have the same power or something??

Frwt wrote:

It doesn't the rasengan isn't rocket it's a spinning ball Tell that to Kabuto and the poor sucker Jiraiya hit it with. And Obito... and Pain... and Kurama... and Momoshiki

Frwt wrote:

They decay beacause of the arms, that's the whole point, the arms are always the problematic part of them You need to read up on his jutsu

Frwt wrote:

If he can withstand natural energy then he doesn't need a good body he needs to learn to balance it But that wasnt the problem stated his body couldnt handle Sage mode

That means he can take in natural energy and create senjutsu chakra even if he couldnt enter Sage mode

Frwt wrote:

Wait were was explained Chapter 17 and 90

Frwt wrote:

Sasuke legit grow up, so it's to be expected and kirin doesn't conside chakra Considering there wasnt a cloud in sight when he was going to destroy team 7 with it, its very likely he was going to use his own chakra for it.

Frwt wrote:

How being naturally better at handling nature enegry is a skill? Some people just pick up things up easier for many different reasons. Naruto's training is what got him perfect balance. If Jiraiya trained harder/longer he would have gotten it too