Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26773508-20151022182759

GreatestSin wrote: Minato 87 wrote: SPSM Naruto isn't Uchiha, does that means Naruto will lose vs Itachi? if he is captured in tsukuyomi i dont see a way for him to not get borken, afterall the power ups made him strong physically not a barrier in his mind against extensive torture that happens for years :I I don't think someone with Hagoromo powerups will be taken out by Tsukuyomi. The whole thing about only Uchihas being capable of breaking Tsukuyomi can be thrown out of the window thanks to Hagoromo goodies. Lest you forget, Naruto now has innate and intuitive understanding about the nature of chakra and whatnot. Plus he's a perfect Jinchuriki. Genjutsu works by disrupting the normal flow of chakra inside a person's body. So it still has a physical aspect. And SPSM Naruto is wayyyy above Itachi in terms of chakra capacity and its manipulation.

QuakingStar wrote: That's pretty much exactly what Itachi said.. twice Kisame then says as they are leaving that they shouldn't have had to run as Itachi could take Jiraiya himself. Maybe Kisame said that because he had no idea Jiraiya had Sage Mode. Wasn't Pain himself surprised by Jiraiya's SM? I can't remember well, but I think he was. If so, it is unlikely Kisame had any intel on Jiraiya's Sage Mode. And as we know, Sage Mode is a game-changer when it comes to battle. So we should take both Itachi and Kisame's statements with a pinch of salt. The battle could go either way. Itachi will win if he manages to take out Jiraiya quickly. If the battle drags on, the Mangekyo's strain will pull down Itachi to near-exhaustion.