Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150530210611/@comment-5273810-20150601185618

Aki174 wrote: One of the funniest comment ever about Obito being stronger than Minato. Dude, had Minato not been busy trying to save the village, Naruto and his wife, he could have easily handle Obito and gave him a beating. Isn't that the reason why Obito is trying to control the Kyuubi as a distraction for Minato?. If he's a stronger ninja, he could have confronted Minato 1 on 1 instead of waiting for the birth of Naruto to release the Kyuubi.

Do you even know how FTG works?. Obito's kamui has no direct advantage. Once Minato puts a seal on you, you're dead. You can't escape either. What's the point of warping Minato to a different dimension when he could just FTG back to reality. Kamui being stronger than FTG is a joke mate.

Some of the people here are overhyping in regards to Genjutsu. Sure it's a powerful technique but there are ways to stop it. Just have to find a way to disrupt your chakra flow and you will snap out of it. That's why fully synced Jinchūrikis will never fall into a Genjutsu which renders the Sharingan user useless. One of the reasons why Naruto goes Kurama mode the moment he fights an Uchiha. Obito took control of the 9 tails to destroy the village not to distract Minato. If he taken control of the 9 tails in order to deal with Minato he would have used it on Minato himself and not to attack the village. Obito had to wait for the birth or else he couldn't have gotten the 9 tails. He needed the seal to weaken dramatically in order to extract it.

Here is an in depth explanation of why he needed to wait. Remember Gaara's extraction? That took 3 days and 3 nights and that was with 9 people with 8 it takes longer and it gets longer and longer the less there are to do it. But lets for sake of argument make it 3 days and 3 nights(though we all know it would take longer). If Minato put his formula into the seal(which Obito knew he did), Obito knew he did not have 3 days and 3 nights to extract the 9 tails. Plus he would have to deal with the village mustering up a search party etc. Since Obito didn't have backup like the Akatsuki back then(he didn't even have Nagato), he couldn't take the regular route.

I do know how FTG works. If you read what I said you'd realize what I was saying. As a transportation ability it is more powerful and versatile than the Flying Thunder God. Its power is all in the eyes requiring no handle seals and allowing you to phase through your opponent and his attacks taking no damage. You can also teleport to places you haven't marked thus by all accounts that does make Kamui superior. That does not mean Flying Thunder God doesn't have its advantages as you noted it can finish someone off guaranteed if you have your seal on them and during that fight Obito had no seal on him. But after the fight yes. So after the fight Flying Thunder God would be superior in application allowing him to defeat his opponent guaranteed.

Onto your point on Genjutsu this is true to a limited extent but not always correct. Naruto can completely shut off his chakra flow but that still didn't conquer Itachi's genjutsu Itachi being one of the strongest Genjutsu users in the show.

As for fully-synched Jinchuriki being immune to genjutsu, Yagura wants to say hi. Yagura, a perfect Jinchuriki like Killer Bee, was trapped in Genjutsu by Obito for years and couldn't get out of it. This though I would imagine would rarely happen as this level I imagine is really hard to reach. We don't know if Sasuke ever reached this level, we know he wasn't that level during his fight with Killer Bee but who knows he may have reached that level later on.