Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-28204848-20160416145716

Ninja Of War wrote: @QuakingStar

None of those links say that Orochimaru defeated Jiraiya. They only refer to Jiraiya not being able to save Orochimaru. Save =/= Defeat btw.

So I'll ask again, is there evidence that Orochimaru apparently defeated Jiraiya? In my opinion of understanding characters and being a son of on of the 39 clues collaboration I'd say YES. But there is no evidence other than when they were really little