Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-32104334-20171109032930/@comment-33308438-20171129181403

Thekillman wrote: Starscream1998 wrote: Hey guys, went away from this thread for a while and came back to...whatever this is. Somebody please explain? I think the thread has ran it's course, since the original question was long answered. Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Why should itachi use mind control genjutsu let alone something as lethal as tsukuyomi if he was just fighting for accomplishing nothing? Tsukuyome is not lethal. Nobody has ever died to it. Starscream1998 wrote: Read the context. Itachi never said sharingan can beat tsukuyomi, he said beat him, which is proven false by his jiraiya hype statement. Databook puts a question mark. Databook doesnt do that if its sure of the answer. Itachi was quite clearly talking about Tsukuyome. Sasuke overcame Tsukuyome. I don't see any evidence for what you claim, i just see an attempt to hype up Itachi.

Itachi never worked against Akatsuki. He didn't oppose it. He captured Jinchuriki even when akatsuki was close to winning. He made no effort to defeat Pain or Obito. Obito lied about tons of things, from Madara's origins, his name, Itachi's real motives, Izanagi, the plan. I don't see why we should trust what he says about Itachi.

Itachi came to Konoha to capture Naruto. This wasn't fakery or obstruction (he had absolutely no reason to believe Naruto could handle a beast nor any reason to believe he would come to stop the Plan). While Itachi and Kisame could 2v1 Jiraiya, there was still a real risk of a Naruto rampage in which case they'd be fucked.

Kakashi was a real danger to Itachi (who was even shocked that Kakashi knew about the MS' weakness), hence he used Tsukuyome to take him out. Theres no need for me to hype him since the manga already claims itachi can control the entire SA with genjutsu and this coming from two experienced shinobis. So dont mistake me for that. What tobi said there is the truth. Otherwise it wouldve been debunked by some other character. Lmao dont be misinformed when you are hating on someone lol, kakashi himself said itachi couldve easily killed him. Lol go read the viz translation. Theres nothing to hype, if anything itachi is already invincible according to the director. If you dont want to believe tobi, then give me another statement from any other reliable character of what really happened there. Tobi said itachi was acting the whole time. So no reason for him to use tsukuyomi which is classified as ninjutsu in databook and not genjutsu, on sasuke. Hence why tsukuyomi cannot be broken by anything. Itachis words were lies, tobi explained that, he said itachi came to warn danzo and fool akatsuki of capturing naruto. Dont act stupid, if itachi wanted why didnt he burn jiraiya with amaterasu? Why didnt kisame use waterdome? And V2 samehada? Do you have an explanation? Naruto survived that day because he said jiraiya is greater than akatsuki. Tobi stated the truth otherwise it wouldve been debunked by some other character. Databook puts question mark, if the answer is sure , it wouldve been stated confidently. Kakashi knew the weakness of tsukuyomi? What the hell. Stop acting stupid. Kakashi was zero threat to itachi stop underating itachi, kakashi couldnt even keep up with his speed then how is he a threat? Kakashi didnt know the existence of tsukuyomi, itachi explained it to him in the genjutsu so kakashi was scared of his 3T genjutsu , if kakashi knew why did itachi explain?

So flawed logic there. Tobi said he was acting in the fight and never even thought of hurting sasuke, Sasuke thought he got beaten and eye plucked for real but Db says that was also in a genjutsu , not a real fight. So why should he go seriously?

Oh yeah since you like taking logic too far, let me mess up your flawed logic a little more. Itachi couldve used amaterasu on narutos eyes and burned it then cancelled it like sasuke did to bee. So either bring a statement from a more reliable character or accept what tobi said, since itachis words are lies. Databook also never said he broke tsukuyomi but defeated the MS which is rather vague statement and that too the Db is doubtful and BZ didnt even know about itachis true motives so he thought Sasuke beat it since in his mind itachi had no reason to not put sasuke in tsukuyomi seriously. Again you are acting like if someone tells ftg can be beaten by sitting on the ground, its a fact ! Do you ever wonder the mechanics of a jutsu? Tsukuyomi completely controls time, matter , and space so no breaking. Oh Wow ! How protective you are against hyping of itachi when its just fact Lol. The mechanics are greater than a liar's words. Even tobi stated in his mind, that itachi can full control time in the tsukuyomi realm during sasukes vs danzo fight. Kabuto was also afraid of tsukuyomi, Kabuto has mind eye of kagura which the Db says has more penetrative perception than all dojutsu yet he thought he was a goner. Please use manga facts to disaprove claims not your self made wishes.