Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170129081654/@comment-6036561-20180209114928

Naruto10647 wrote: It is not rumors. Prime Hiruzen is considered to be the God of Shinobi. That is a FACT

That's why I call them "rumors". He is SAID to be the God of Shinobi, but we never got to see him in is prime. A "fact" is something whose truth can be checked, and here the only "fact" is that Hiruzen was "considered" the God of Shinobi: we can't measure his actual strength. He was also said to be the strongest Hokage ever, but honestly after seeing Hashirama I seriously doubt it, just as much as I doubt he really learned "every jutsu in Konoha" - given the character, I doubt he will accept to learn the Hiden of the clans, even if the clan head himself should offer him to teach them.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Hiruzen is weak, but still even in his prime he is up agains Itachi (that was a kage-level ninja), Obito (a man who awakened the Mangekyou in only two "steps", that was beast with it the moment after awakening and who can use Wood Release to a certain extent) and Shisui (who was rumored to be not only on of the most talented among the Uchihas, but also the strongest Uchiha of his time)... so again, Hiruzen is up against three incredibly powerful ninja, at least two of them even in possess of the Mangekyou Sharingan (it depends on how much prior the Uchiha downfall we consider them), and his only aid is an incredibly overestimated character.

Also, we aren't even considering the possibility that Shisui could use the Kotoamatsukami on Hiruzen himself - and we saw how much OP is that jutsu