Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32617252-20170819183613/@comment-32617252-20170819201848

well, he should be, at least, by scaling, 5 times (maybe more) physically stronger than pain arc sm Naruto. see what I mean? him matching kishiki's strength shouldn't that much of a problem. now, maybe kishiki is faster, maybe (we haven't either of their full speeds- how fast is a full power sage hashi, and how fast is a full power kinshiki?), but I don't see him blitzing, or anything close to that, cuz of hashi's sage mode, and that's the reason why I made hashi in base, mostly. cuz sm hashi would be waaaay too much overkill, from where I stand, so base seems more like kinshiki's league.