Talk:Jinchūriki

Anime
Its mentioned in a lot of articles that in the anime Fu and Han were mentioned to have loathed humanity didn't Deidara say the same in the manga? Ch 266 Page 16 119.154.6.183 (talk) 15:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * He said generally, not specifically about Fū or Han who could have had different relationships with their village. Kishimoto might have an entirely different background story planned for them.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 15:20, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Was it said in the anime about Han and Fu? 119.154.6.183 (talk) 15:22, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Deidara used the same words, he said that the captured hosts were hated by their villages. In both the manga and the anime, Shukaku was the third beast to be captured, leaving Utakata, Han and Fū as potential "hated-by-their-village,-glad-they're-dead" hosts. Because the anime made that arc showing Utakata, that makes Han and Fū those already captured hosts. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:44, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohhh mk. So that I suppose is why it can't be said that Deidara meant Han and Fū because we don't know how Utakata fits into it?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:47, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if I understood your question. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:00, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was really just stating my understanding of it/rambling I suppose. But I meant that the manga reference can't be made since we don't know canonically when Utakata was captured so he might just be one of the two that were hated.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 18:04, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Huh
How are the jinchuuriki's souls still here?!?!?!? --Asian711 (talk) 22:23, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

It would appear to be that way. Hard to say, we'll just have to wait and see. Skitts (talk) 22:27, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Edo Tensei bounds souls to bodies why wouldn't they be there?--Cerez365™ 22:28, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, dur. My brain dun goof'd. Skitts (talk) 22:41, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Repeated vandalism
Protection needed to this page, the following line keeps being changed from: "Such examples are Naruto, Killer B, and the most prominent being Gaara."

to "Such examples are Gaara, Killer B, and the most prominent being Naruto." --speysider (talk) 13:29, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Abilities
We all know that the jinchuriki (Yugito, Yagura, Roshi, Han, Utakata, Fu) were revived. Each of them displayed almost full control over their respective tailed beasts while being controlled by Tobi. My question is that the control and abilities they displayed after their resurrection, are those skills really their own? Should these controlled abilities be written in their abilities section ? 119.154.69.138 (talk) 08:48, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

No. That was Tobi. None of them except for Yagura were noted to have that level of control while alive. Skitts (talk) 09:02, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

So should all of that controlled.....control be listed on their character and jinchuriki forms pages? 119.154.69.138 (talk) 09:17, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I think it is already. If not, it's at least on their Jinchuriki forms page. Skitts (talk) 09:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

If its not really their own control then how can we write it in their articles ? 119.154.69.138 (talk) 09:42, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Those transformations are on their Jincuriki forms page as I thought, since those pages just display all shown forms of that character, circumstances be damned. I would assume they're already in their articles in the Shinobi World War Arc section. It's not like we put it in their abilities section as their own skill or something. Skitts (talk) 11:27, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

If its not their control or skill can they be listed as users of Tailed beast abilities such as Leech Sap? And its noted about their manipulated control on their abilities section, what about that? 119.154.26.230 (talk) 15:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is their skill they're jinchuriki. Whether or not they could perform feats like complete transformations without losing themselves is an entirely different story that however, doesn't mean that they aren't the ones performing the feats. All Tobi's doing is telling them to attack and such. I think the respective articles make it obvious enough of the circumstances under which they're using it.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 15:41, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Compatibility
Shouldn't the article mention that the soon-to-be Jinchuriki must be compatible in some way to host the beast? Both Chiyo and Killer B's cousin mention this if I remember correctly. Skitts (talk) 04:37, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bump. Skitts (talk) 16:07, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

We don't know what the compatibility is all about. --Elveonora (talk) 16:19, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't say we did, but the opposite in fact. I think that something along the lines of "To host a Tailed Beast, the intended host must be compatible in some way to host the beast" would do just fine. Skitts (talk) 16:23, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Huh, I thought this was mentioned already. I'll add it, though I would appreciate someone hunting those references. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:55, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I added those references the other day by the way. I was right, both B's cousin and Chiyo were the one's that brought iit up about their villages' respective Tailed Beasts. Skitts (talk) 06:18, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia
Shouldn't the trivia be changed from saying that Gaara retained his abilities after death to jinchuriki that are resurrected or reincarnated retain their tailed beast abilities. 119.154.5.19 (talk) 19:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * The jinchuriki resurrected by the Impure World Resurrection had their demons resealed into them. Gaara had his demon removed, got his life back, but kept his demon based powers.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 20:27, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Not to mention Edos retain ALL the abilities they had in life. As stated they also had the actual beasts re-sealed so that's why.--Elveonora (talk) 04:47, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually we can't say that's true per se for jinchuriki especially since we haven't gotten to see the jinchuriki fight without the beasts.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 11:55, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tailed Beast Shell
Shouldnt we change Partial transformation for jinchuuriki into Tailed Beast Shell since it appears that The jinchuuriki's human body doesnt transform into the beasts on a celluar level. examples- when naruto fought shukaku gaara's body came out of his head showing gaara didnt transform into sand, showing his tailed beast intial form was just a shroud. and how Goku handed naruto roshi's body when he was transformed into him (UubPathnik (talk) 02:51, April 1, 2012 (UTC))

The only thing that change the jinchuuriki make are their initial form (UubPathnik (talk) 03:04, April 1, 2012 (UTC))

Not really, Gaara's case is different and Killer B was shown to transform parts of his own body into that of Eight-Tails. Also the part about Goku, chapter please ? --Elveonora (talk) 15:52, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

In chapter 570 goku drops roshi's body on naruto. and in naruto's 6 tailed form he formed bone structures outside his body, and later killerbee did the same with his lariat (UubPathnik (talk))

That's 2 different things. --Elveonora (talk) 22:35, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

It shows how Naruto and Bee's bones didnt grow. they never grew into their tailed beasts, their chakra shrouds grew into tailed beasts. (UubPathnik (talk) 18:43, April 29, 2012 (UTC)) It would also explain why their clothes were still intact (UubPathnik (talk) 01:19, May 10, 2012 (UTC))

I'm confused. Jinchuriki can transform into their Tailed Beast. And considering once you've gotten to B's level that you can manifest actual parts of the Beast and even change into it's actual body, I don't get where this 'not on a cellular level' junk is coming from. Naruto's most recent power-up was an imperfect one, as Kurama noted, so that can't really be taken as a standard. Skitts (talk) 01:42, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm saying maybe Killerbee manipulated where there chakra shroud would manifest on his body instead of it completely wrapping around him. and had the chakra transform into the Tailed Beast limbs (UubPathnik (talk) 19:38, June 18, 2012 (UTC))

When they use Version 2 and Full Transformation, they really do transform. But they can change the chakra shroud into a physical part of their Tailed Beast.--Elveonora (talk) 20:32, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

Version 2 is the same as the original chakra shroud it's just more in depth, with the addition of the jinchuuriki's blood and more chakra. An example would be like the kid in the Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go with the Green Gorilla (UubPathnik (talk) 01:52, June 19, 2012 (UTC))

No. There are also physical parts of a Tailed Beasts in Version 2 like: bones, fur, horns, tails, claws, wings, arms, ears, carapace etc. You can see clearly it's not just chakra mixed with blood but the hosts themselves partially transformed. Also your "not cellular" theory would be nice if Killber B has not transformed his entire arm into hand/tentacle state. Gaara is using just partial transformations and his "full Shukaku form" is not a full transformation as he isn't mentioned to have a full control over a Tailed Beasts. He just creates a copy of Shukaku's body through transforming sand into physical form just like during partial transformation and then he falls asleep with the technique as when a host is sleeping, Shukaku gains control.--Elveonora (talk) 15:59, June 19, 2012 (UTC)