Talk:Boruto Uzumaki/Archive 4

Boruto's Byakugan
Any reason we're not adding Boruto's Byakugan to his page? We acknowledge it in the page that he gets it, but it's not included in his profile? --Hadrimon (talk) 19:56, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's speculation to begin with, unfortunately.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 20:00, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * How is it speculation when it's clearly exactly how a byakugan is drawn? --Hadrimon (talk) 20:23, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Some smart people pointed out that there are no wrinkles around the eye, which even Ao displayed, despite having an implant.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 20:25, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * So I guess we might call that "Boruto's Doujutsu" just like there are pages like the Jūgo's Clan's Kekkei Genkai and Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai if you all get what I meant. Narsha (talk) 21:09, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Berserker It Could Just Be An Artistic Error Due To The New Artist Doing The Boruto Manga, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 21:37, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, that is quite obviously a Byakugan, why we aren't including it in this wiki I have no idea. Shock Dragoon (talk) 21:28, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * It Could Be Because It's A Dream Or A Possible Glimpse Into The Future, Its Unsure Of Right Now, So If Its A Dream Then It Doesn't Matter, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 21:35, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well if it's a dream we'll take it out then, but for now, it's fact so it should be added Shock Dragoon (talk) 22:35, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Or it's not a dojutsu at all. We can take an "oversight" into account when we see another Byakugan user in the manga and compare it to what Boruto did. For now, his situation is the exact same as Mitsuki's - looks like a Byakugan, but arguably isn't one.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 04:35, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's obviously a transplanted Byakugan. http://i.imgur.com/WbWhR.png - A plain white eye with pupil outline? C'mon guys, get a grip. Pesa123456789 (talk) 10:41, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * The information should be added to the page until such a time that it is proved to be wrong, it's only speculation to those people who expect a mangaka to write "Byakugan" on the panel. --Sajuuk 10:56, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, why would he need a transplant when he already has the genetics to awaken a genuine one? That makes no sense. Seriously I can't believe the amount of push back from the fanbase on this, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck or in this case a Byakugan. Are we seriously going to argue for the years it takes for this MONTHLY manga to get up to the awakening or are we going to accept what we saw in the flash forward until stated otherwise? Shock Dragoon (talk) 10:58, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Or you know, it's a Tenseigan... Looks more like it too. Byakugan's pupils have veins and the iris' are much bigger than what Boruto displayed...--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 11:02, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * True, but it lacks the flower design of the Tenseigan, which don't get me wrong Boruto theoretically has the genetics to awaken as well and probably will be a plot point later, but it's obviously a Byakugan at this point. That said I agree with Sajuuk and we should just use it on the page until otherwise stated. Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:23, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, he should have the genetics. However, there are two questions that need to be answered: 1) Why only one eye (the one with the scar, too)? and 2) Where are the veines? As long as those are unclear, we should at least be careful with the wording. There's no shame in using "apparently" and "acquired through unknown means", remember that. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:25, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * I can live with that as long as we list his "Byakugan" in his page, infobox, the Byakugan page. As you said, we can appease everyone with an "Byakugan~Apparently" for now until we get more info. That way everyone wins.Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:46, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also couldn't we just say "Bortuo eventually gets a Byakugan. Because of the scaring across his eye, it is unknown if this was a natural transformation or the result of surgery."?--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 12:50, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Come on, it's just enough to say that Boruto acquired a Byakugan "through unknown means". I also see no sence in showing up this "Kakashi-style" eye without it being a Byakugan. If we get more info about this eye, we can always delete all the assumptions which would turn out to be wrong. But until the new info shows up, let's keep Byakugan on Boruto's page and Boruto on Byakugan's page. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 13:21, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re-added. I swear, if it's a Tenseigan I'mma collect some cookies. ;P--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 13:30, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is speculation. --Sharingan91 (talk) 05:52, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Please demonstrate how it looks like a Byakugan. At the moment, literally the only similarity between Boruto's eye and the typical Byakugan eye is that his eye pupil is a black circle. We don't know the color of his eye's sclera (the outer layer of the eye that is usually white in humans in the real world). We don't know how Himawari's Byakugan eyes look with respect to sclera color either. When someone has non-white eyes, do they become white upon their activation of their Byakugan? We don't know. In the Naruto universe, there's no reference on what the Byakugan of a half-Hyuga with non-white eyes would look like, since Boruto and Himawari are the first ones that we see. Furthermore, there's no veins around his eye, which Ao had despite his Byakugan being a transplanted one. We should wait before making mostly baseless assumptions. It could be a Byakugan, yes, but it could also be a related dōjutsu (e.g. the Tenseigan), or even a completely new one that will be introduced in the new manga. I'm going to reiterate my point, which is that we should wait before calling his eye power a Byakugan, because there's more evidence that it isn't for now.

Formetheresnotomorrow (talk) 23:53, May 5, 2016 (UTC)Formetheresnotomorrow
 * He could also just be blind in one eye, given the huge scar running across it.--BeyondRed (talk) 05:14, May 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * I Think ^ Is More Likely, And That He Was Actually Activating Sage Mode Instead Of Byakugan, But For Some Reason The Sage Chakra Only Appeared On His One Eye. Bob1200 (talk) 16:39, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Image 2 infobox
We should put the image of "adult" Boruto. I propose two images: Colorful picture but with eye closed (page 3), or black-white image with open eye (page 4). --Sharingan91 (talk) 07:50, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Considering it was barely a glimpse of it, and the fact we don't know how long into the future that is, I'm against it. Besides, the really obvious stuff aside (scars, tattoos), he doesn't look that much older, just a more serious expression. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 07:54, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * But his face has been modified, he is different. --Sharingan91 (talk) 08:01, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

Bandages (Redux)
Okay, let's get this out of the way one final time. It's been added and removed far too many times. Boruto wearing bandages in the conclusion of the movie is NOT a noteworthy addition to his appearance and doesn't need to be mentioned. He's not wearing it for cosmetic reasons or because of his bond with Naruto or whatever other insane theories have been concocted; he's wearing bandages because that's what you do when you injure yourself. If we're gonna add that, we might as well go into Naruto's page and add all the times he's been banged up and in the hospital or add the 10 minutes that Kakashi had bandages over his left eye to their appearance sections. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 07:36, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

Higher quality image of adult Boruto
Here's a higher quality image of adult Boruto, but it won't let me change the image. --DC52 (talk) 02:38, May 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Basically the same image, with basically the same dimensions. No need to change. Only thing slightly different is the color. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:07, May 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * The scan quality is much better. The scan i posted comes from the digital release. --DC52 (talk) 00:48, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * If the image is the same, you don't have to upload a new file name, just a new revision of the already existing and used file. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:05, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Go to the file page, click Replace from the dropdown and upload the new version there.--~Ultimate Supreme  06:05, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

are people serious?
The quality and standards have really gone low, haven't they? Boruto having Byakugan is not confirmed whatsoever, yet it's stated as a fact. His eye actually looks like Mitsuki's in Sage Transformation and Boruto's eye even has something that resembles Senjutsu pigment around that eye.--Elve Talk Page 11:51, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought we've already discussed this. Plus, Sage Transformation isn't the kind of power that can be obtained by receiving the original user's eye cause it's not a doujutsu, but a power within the user's own body. Also, the markings around Boruto's eye are surely the part of his "tatoo" power, which is wielded by both Boruto and Kawaki - both of them bear the same markings, albeit on opposite body sides and with opposite colours when activated (red by Kawaki and blue by Boruto), but since Kawaki's eyes remain normal after tatoo activation, it's obvious that Byakugan or not, Boruto's right eye has nothing to do with tatooes' power anyway. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 12:02, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Still shouldn't be stated to be Byakugan without utmost certainty.--Elve Talk Page 12:24, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

To prevent edit wars, I believe this should be discussed further... seriously... stating that he has the Byakugan as a fact, basing on 2 manga pages without context whatsoever about his adult self's powers is just insane, not to mention missing veins.--Elve Talk Page 20:14, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * ^Agreed. If anything, maybe it's a Tenseigan :p. It has to be kept as it is for now tho, since that's kinda the consensus, until it's (~hopefully) changed.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 20:15, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Seriously. Until proven otherwise Boruto didn't had byakugan. Nothing swollen veins and no skill that derives from its use. We don't place unconfirmed information.--Sharingan91 (talk) 20:20, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * The only reason I didn't address this earlier was because I was not about to get in the way of people pissing their pants in excitement over Boruto possibly having the Byakugan. That would have been too much for me. 20:37, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's called fandom craze, jumping to assumptions because of exaggerated excitement and headcanon bias... i want x to be true so it has to be and i'm gonna pretend that my unfounded 'facts' are bulletproof and present them as such to convince others of my fallacy and my hired herd will help me further spread my false claims as the fact, because truth is in numbers of believers, not evidence!!!--Elve Talk Page 20:49, May 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Believe me, Elve, I know exactly what you're referring to. :) So much, dude. 20:53, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

I do quite enjoy that, because we can't say his eye was a Byakugan because of course we can't, we don't even make a mention of said eye in the article anymore.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:24, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

While I do understand the reasoning behind removing the Byakugan from Boruto's page, why isn't that same reasoning being used to remove the Gentle Fist? The only "evidence" for it so far is that he once threw a punch with an open fist. It has less substance than this Byakugan issue yet the consensus was "well there's no harm in leaving on until proven otherwise".--JavelinR (talk) 13:21, May 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Couple days later, the Byakugan is still here on his article, despite no confirmation whatsoever. He opens his right eye when he activates some sort of tattoo. So what? It could be a blind eye for all we know. Tired of seeing excuses for Boruto having the Byakugan. Does waiting for actual confirmation really hurt that much? 05:19, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Who the heck rentered Boruto having the Byakugan without consensus? --Rai 水 (talk) 09:28, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * If you failed to participate in it the last time and don't read the talk page messages more thoroughly, that's on you buddy (@Rai) >.< I opposed it the last time, and I oppose it again, tho. Whenever the article is unlocked, if there aren't any more arguments regarding this issue, the new consensus will be pretty clear.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 14:20, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * It was put back by UltimateSupreme, because that's how it works all the time there are edit wars on articles. If people edit war, the last version that existed before the edit war occurred is used, the article is protected and the issue is discussed on the talkpage. --Sajuuk 14:23, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * We (at the very least, me) are aware. I personally asked him to put it back myself, as it was the consensus at the time, and he accidentally locked the page after @Sharingan91 kept reverting it with no legitimate, non-biased reasons. Then again, consensus can change at any time.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 14:27, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Boruto's unknown dōjutsu

 * Okay, let's try this again...
 * We have no 100% confirmation that Boruto's right eye is Byakugan, not the mention the missing veins that have been part of activated Byakugan ever since its first appearance. So, I have compromise:

Dōjutsu
At an unknown point in time, through undisclosed means, Boruto obtained a unknown dōjutsu in his right eye, which resembles Byakugan, but without bulging veins in the temple.


 * This way, we acknowledge Boruto's right eye, without prematurely claiming it's Byakugan, until we get 100% confirmation that it IS Byakugan or something else. And IF it's Byakugan, I will personally change it back. How does that sounds? --JouXIII (talk) 17:57, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * He just revealed that he has Byakugan, no veins means he has not activated it yet.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 18:06, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * The Boruto manga introduced Byakugan without veins and The Day Naruto Became Hokage OVA followed the new change. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:11, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * @MechaNaruto Unactivated Byakugan would be without pupil and veins, and yet there's pupil and there's sound effect KATSU. So Boruto clearly activated something, but not necessarily Byakugan.
 * @Sarutobii2 Now THAT would be unactivated Byakugan. Unless you have seen the whole OVA and seen that Himawari attacked Naruto like that, it proves nothing. --JouXIII (talk) 18:24, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * In the manga, she has veins, no? • Seelentau 愛 議 19:43, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep. --JouXIII (talk) 19:50, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * If - at least - we all can agree that is indeed a doujutsu but we can't agree it is a Byakugan, can we just call it "Boruto's Doujutsu" and make a page just like the Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai one? Since Boruto is a main character. Narsha (talk) 22:45, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, because this one will most likely be resolved during the manga. Plus, we have way too little information on it. • Seelentau 愛 議 10:10, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Which means it would make sense to NOT call it Byakugan until we get more information, right? --JouXIII (talk) 10:42, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:04, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't really get why it's stated to be Byakugan, despite the lack of bulging veins.--JOA2012:08, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * We haven't seen any technical of this eye. We don't know if it really is a doujutsu. White eyes of Hagoromo isn't classified as Byakugan. Eyes of Mitsuki "Sage Transformation" are drawn equal But we haven't entered Byakugan because this is speculation.--Sharingan91 (talk) 12:58, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Either list it as a Byakugan or don't list it at all. As many have said, it could be some partial sage transformation eye which isn't a dōjutsu. I would lean more towards Byakugan since artistic errors are a thing or even cutting away before veins develop. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:14, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I would be for removing it, until we get 100% confirmed, hammering to our faces 'til they're numb-information of its true nature. --JouXIII (talk) 18:30, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * This paragraph should be replaced with the "Boruto's right eye". --Sharingan91 (talk) 19:08, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok then, we should make it as unknown dojutsu--Mecha Naruto (talk) 19:27, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with either removal or unknown dōjutsu, as long as Byakugan gets removed, until it's actually confirmed. --JouXIII (talk) 14:23, June 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Now it's ok. --Sharingan91 (talk) 14:59, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Birthday
Someone add boruto and His sisters birth date--Aquamarine6 (talk) 15:28, June 15, 2016 (UTC)Aquamarine6
 * It's not known from what I know. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:46, June 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * What Seelentau said. Otherwise it would have been added already. --JouXIII (talk) 15:53, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Boruto confirmed to have Kurama Mode and Byakugan
Special artwork that comes with Boruto volume 1 has been leaked. Which shows that Boruto has Kurama Mode and Byakugan. --DC52 (talk) 14:35, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Since it's a leak, I see no reason to add it to his abilities. Furthermore, I don't think that artwork provides enough proof of him possessing these abilities, while there's no confirmation in any other media, including the Boruto manga itself. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 14:40, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * ...Wtf... Don't believe everything you see on the Internet... -__- 14:59, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * @WindStar7125 /u/2169811443 on Weibo confirmed it's legit. --DC52 (talk) 17:53, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Still zero confirmation that Boruto has the Byakugan in both eyes and somehow Kurama Mode. Nothing of the sort has shown up in the actual manga. 18:00, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Promotional art drawn by Kishimoto which comes with Volume 1 shows him to have it? --DC52 (talk) 18:07, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Kishi could have drawn Naruto using Amaterasu for all I care. By that logic, you want to tell me that alone confirms Naruto as an Amaterasu user? Really? Until Boruto using those abilities show up in the manga or Kishi or Ike flat out states it, we're not jumping the gun and listing Boruto as a user of those abilities. 18:15, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * This. We're not adding anything from special drawings (e.g. from the artbooks or book covers). • Seelentau 愛 議 18:33, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * If only you said that to yourself when you suggested we add Sarada possessing the Sharingan as a toddler because of artwork heh. But yeah, that image is why we shouldn't add information from these type of drawings. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 19:18, August 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * You mean this? • Seelentau 愛 議 19:26, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

I think it might be worth putting the image in the trivia section when we get a better quality scan of it? (Hadrimon (talk) 22:16, August 2, 2016 (UTC))
 * Now we know the color of Mitsuki's transformation, cyan as "Tenseigan Chakra Mode". --Sharingan91 (talk) 13:15, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Where does it says that?
''As an adult, Boruto's personality has changed in stark contrast to that when he was a child: he is very calm and composed, even when goaded about his father's fate. Boruto refers to his old self as a brat, which puts the mindset that the older version of Boruto has changed drastically.''-Boruto Uzumaki's personality section

Where does older Boruto calls his younger self as a 'brat' in the manga? I'm genuinely curious, because I looked at it and I just don't see that part. Some collaboration would be grateful. --&#42;MsIsamisa (talk) 15:48, August 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Boruto calls his younger self a brat in the VIZ version of the Manga. I have it if you need it.GodlyHades (talk) 17:10, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

@GodlyHades, Oh yeah that would be cool, please! :) --&#42;MsIsamisa (talk) 13:48, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Mark on Hand
Where will we be adding the manga original content from the movie adaptation such as when Boruto received the mark on his hand from Momoshiki? I still think the manga version should replace the movie version in the articles. Diamonddeath (talk) 00:11, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yesterday? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 00:24, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Why haven't we replaced the "Boruto: Naruto the Move" with "Boruto: Naruto Next Generations" in all of the articles? Or perhaps we can remove the movie from the Epilogue section and include it in the section for the manga. Diamonddeath (talk) 03:10, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * I updated this page as a test to show what I mean. Before changing it back, I'd like to hear your opinions. I think the articles would look better and more organized like this, and they allow for future anime and manga material to be integrated neatly. Diamonddeath (talk) 03:34, February 25, 2017 (UTC)