Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-43776375-20200515104050

The Uchiha prodigy before Madara was talented and only had Sharingan. According to the 3rd databook

The only characters shown/seen to have power like Madara/Hashirama were Ashura and Indra. The 4th databook said Madara was the strongest Uchiha.

Madara and Izuna were also said to be the first Uchiha to awaken the Mangekyou and that would also mean Madara eas the first Uchiha EMS and Susanoo user

The 4th databook also says that of all the Senju, only Hashirama had Wood Release and no one had surpassed his healing abilities.

All of the lore makes it pretty clear that Hashirama and Madara were the pinnacle of strength excluding Otsutsuki and 6 Paths EDIT: Lost this part, I'll rewite

Do you know the page were it was said? I found the Madara one but it doesn't say it: https://i.imgur.com/7rTCx1M.png

Ok for this one you're referring to this: https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/databook-collection-thread-part-i.496343/page-15#post-53211573, to me seems just that Madara was the strongest one in the clan, but not the strongets of all the Uchiha that ever existed

In what databook? Anyway even if Madara was the first to get EMS doesn't mean that he's more powerful than a MS Uchiha, we have Indra who had a susanoo bigger than Madara and only had MS

Yeah, again from the alive senju, tho in Hashirama's case his abilityes were only his, not related to the clan, so it also works out that he's the first in the world to have wood style, while on the regeneration the Uzumaki could contend with him I guess

Yeah cause they were the other reincarnation and you basically have aliens>reincarnations>humans

So you have no evidence to support that claim I have no evidence for the claim that can erase far mountains, I'm juts talking about a valley here

In the war arc
 * So Naruto and Karin as Uzumaki had the potential to wield Rinnegan
 * Tsunade as an Uzumaki and Senju had the potential
 * Yamato and Orochimaru could wield it due to Hashi cells

Anyone with a large amount of chakra should be able to wield the Rinnegan Naruto wasn't a full bloded Uzumaki and Karin didn't seem to be a strong Uzumaki since her chains weren't on par with Kushina, but yeah, I guess they could manage a bit

Tsuande theoretically should have the potential, but from what we've seen his Uzumaki traits are lackluster and so are his Hashirama's ones, so I'd say she can't

Yamato's seemed inferior in wood style to kid Obito and he only ineherted the wood style not the regeneration, not sure about the chakra pool but seems he got fatigued during Naruto's wind rasengan training, Oro seems better than Yamato so I would see more possibilityes on him being capable of controlling it

Nope, this large reserves aren't just normally large, they are either Uzumaki's or Hashirama's

Befriending all the Bijuu is possible by normal ninja. The Bijuu all gave Naruto a chance because the 4 tails vouched for him. Based off that alone any of the Jinchuriki Naruto met in the telepathy meeting place is elegible and Gaara later on after befriending Shukaku.

Also, one doesnt have to befriend them, they can be forcefully subjugated It's not, Kurama doesn't listen to you if you, you first need to slap him in his place then he becomes a tsundere and you can behifirend him, Gyuki also didn't trust Naruto, he first had to demotrate his valus with his actions (as Kurama said) and then Gyuki gave him part of his power

They can't, you need a rinnegan to control them and becoming a juubi jinchuriki

None of those characters were particularly strong when he decided that they were the chosen ones.

Honestly Minato isn't particularly powerful, at least not in terms of destructive capacity. His speed and hax ass FTG are what made him strong. Nagato had the rinnegan and could master all nature relases

Minato is powerful he changed the outocome of a war and stopped kumo from getting Kurama, detructive capacity is useless if you can tag your opponent, you need it if you want to kill with AoD, but if Minato cat tag the enemy ninja then even just a kunai does the job

Fist bump couple of Bijuu lol Didn't say I was ok with that, this is about Kurama, tho even with the bijuu he worked a bit at least for Gyuki