Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20191020201539/@comment-43403813-20191023191907

@Vlad  Okay, a lot of ignorance and bias in your paragraph.

Our claims of Nagato's speed aren't rendered "to almost null", Nagato was in edo auto-pilot, making his reaction speed abysmal. Do you really think that Nagato was both in control and willing to fight when he sat there being burned by Amaterasu for 5 minutes? Of course he wasn't. Alive and un-controlled Nagato would have easily seen the Susanoo coming. When he was still grey and crippled, he appeared right behind Bee, who has to be at similar speeds with the Raikage in order to sync their Double Lariat. So we can assume that a healthy Nagato would at least be around the speed of Killer Bee.

Nagato is arguably one of the best sensory type ninjas in the entire series. He has techniques dedicated to sensing, it was how he was able to keep a close eye on the Rain village for years. Give me actual evidence or reasonable logic as to why Nagato couldn't use his sensory techniques in battle, similar to how Madara performed blind, other than all of your examples being edo auto-pilot.

When Pain fought Jiraiya, Jiraiya shot at Pain with his hair needle technique, and Pain was so quick to react that he did all the hand seals to summon the Panda summoning to block the hit.

How is speed meaningless? It's an essential factor in battles, from CQC speed to reaction speed. And no one is acting like Nagato's speed is only what gets him the win, but it certainly helps.