Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-36366948-20200817143840

LegionZero wrote: If the criteria for statement being true is we have to see it, neither Sasuke nor Naruto are country level or continental level(you keep flip-flopping), because we never seen it.

Nagato cant destroy anything bigger than Konoha because we havent seen it happen.

Sorry, this isnt DBZ. In Naruto, destorying the world would have actual consequences, like everyone actually dying do to the world being deatroyed or dying in cold uninhabitable outerspace. Naruto characters cant afford to destroy the Earth, and tbh neither can the writers.

The hypocrisy here is that you cite a statement, and ignore another.

You want to assume your cited statement is Naruto/Sasuke's max power, even though that isnt stated. Then you want to use that to ignore/invalidate another statement, simply because meh, im not buying it. These statements can (and do) co-exist, but you are doing mental backflips to interpret them in a way that they do not.

Sorry, thats not how it works. Naruto and Sasuke can be planet busters and be able to destroy a continent. Naruto and Sasuke can scale to a planet buster and the statement of them being able to destroy a continent is still true. Mind you, one continent makes up a majority of the Naruto world. So if they can destroy a land mass that takes up a majority of the planet, it is more than plausible they are planet busters, even if you want to keep ignoring the confirmation of kinshiki's power For a statement to be proved, the exact statement itself doesn't need to be proved. Just the power required for said statement. I'm not waiting for Kinshiki to actually split a planet. Also I don't watch DBZ neither do I ever plan to. What I'm saying is that the raw power required to split a planet needs to be present in Kinshiki's feats, and it just isn't. Also I never said that Naruto and Sasuke aren't planet level, I brought that up because you didn't choose to believe their stated power, but everyone should believe Kinshiki's? While yes, it's not stated to be their limit, you didn't seem to want to analyse Kinshiki's power did you, you just took it at face value as a fact without gathering any evidence to back the claim. There is no "confirmation" just a bunch of arbitrary statements from a databook and Sasuke.

There are no other forms of Sasuke(base/rinnegan) other than Susanoo and his base FTL feat actually scales with SPSM Naruto who dodge light beam attack from Delta where a lot of people already made calculations that it is more than twice the speed of light. Even then, teen Sasuke and Naruto at the end of Shipudden are near light speeds already. Nagato is just sub light speed around massive hypersonic that scales with KCM Naruto, and that is already a high ball estimate. There is nothing in Nagato's arsenal that can deal with FTL Kinshiki's speed blitz even without using Kinshiki's chakra blades. Even if you wank and fap vigorously his Shinra Tensei to planetary level, he, along with his summons altogether, will be obliterated even before the light of Kinshiki's form reflect in his eyes. This is a stomp with low difficulty. I scratch my head at why would this fight be even considered in the first place.

If Kinshiki was FTL he would have bodied the four kage, who are nowhere near lightspeed lol. Everyone keeps making these scaling comparisons and claims without actually looking at what happened in the manga/anime. If Kinshiki was FTL, he would have shown it, if he had the strength to split a planet, he would've displayed it. He did neither. A planet level shinobi should be able to destroy shinobi who aren't near that level, but Kinshiki didn't, which is where this whole thread stems from.