Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-31278419-20170331010234/@comment-27089028-20170413110149

Thekillman wrote: His motivations are actually literally, word by word, explained by Obito himself. The reason everyone misunderstands is because a perfectly fine character with perfectly fine motivations all of a sudden became "the coolest guy", and it got worse with Rin waiting for him in the afterlife which just made the misconception even worse.

He was already depressed before Rin died. She was the final straw, not the reason. Rin was Obito's equivalent of Iruka, basically the only person in his life that gave a shit about him. But yea, that was fucked up during the Kaguya arc. Agreed. Again and again "the 8th gate kills you". Then it happens and oh hey it's survivable.

I want to point out that even as the Lotus Eater Machine, it's still mind control. It's just a mind control set up so people don't resist being plant food. I don't see why it couldn't be altered for any other purpose. Hell, Sasuke hijacking the Lotus Eater version for his own purposes is an even better idea. I have yet to see a fan defend the choice to kill Neji. Sai's on my own shortlist of "characters that outlived their purpose". Others are for example Kiba and Choji. yea i feel the series should've taken another ~100 chapters just to properly set up everything in the 4th war and answer the many many questions it raised. That, or streamline it. Personally i think Madara was overused and well his rampage is fun to watch because it's the cherry on the Over The Top cake, but i felt the whole "madara is behind everything" trope to become tiresome. I'd prefer if Madara actually passed on his dream to Obito, ironically mirroring Hashirama passing on his dream to the Village. I also think it would've been better for Obito have fought his destiny and deny more of Madara's influence.

Although, replacing Obito with Madara works too i guess.

I'm not a big fan of the Sage being brought back though. It opens up a can of worms (how the hell did they get his DNA for Edo Tensei), and it's also unnecessary. The Sage was a legendary figure, the less we actually see of him the better. Thank you for reading all I wrote. First off, Obito may have solid motivation but we never see enough to truly get the sense he has one. Sure he says his belief was confirmed as he went around the world as Madara but we never saw and experienced that to the extent we needed to understand the psyche of this character beyond RinRinRinRinRinRinRinRin and yes I know his motivations go beyond that but it doesn't feel like that. Obito defending his motivations during his fight with Kakashi is too late he shoud have told us all this not long after his mask broke because THAT was the time we needed to know.

Guy deserved his moment and Kishi couldn't pull through, simple as that. It makes sense that after an awesome world-shattering fight with Madara Sasuke should be the one to ride on his coattails as a final villain which is a far more flawless execution that Black Zetsu's troll stab. Sai's character really would have been given a favourable light had he taken the blow and Neji being killed was probably Kishi's way of getting us to STFU about killing off characters.

I'd rather just have Madara being Tobi as he is the villain the Naruto story deserved and at least for me Obito didn't live up to the mask. The way Kabuto talks about acquiring the mystery reanimation through 'various means' would've been a perfect set up for Edo Hagoromo (because there's nothing overly complicated about Black Zetsu showing him Madara's corpse) and who else would Tobi be afraid of if he were Madara in my version?