Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-9782468-20180830174628

Kirito975 wrote: Kurama chakra amp? able to pressure Sharingan Kakashi? he's also def stronger than any of the Konoha 11 at that point.

If not jonin then hes at the border of Chunin/Jonin At the beginning of Part 2, he couldn't take Kakashi's bells with the help of Sakura. And Kakashi did remind them that without intent to kill, they wouldn't stand a chance. They both literally had nothing to get Kakashi and had to resort to him valuing a book series over their training exercise.