Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-26998824-20160229012506

@Ninja Of War & @MIGshinobi Reply to #26

MIG: If the databook says UBBR can destroy a mountain top (which is comparable to Madara's PS sword swing since it does that, destory a mountain top) then it should be able to break the rib cage of Madara's Susanoo. The only to obvious reasons why it wouldn't is writing(plot) or Susanoo's vary in strength which could make sense since its a manifestation of the users strength(correct me if I'm wrong) and Madara holding stronger chakra than anyone one who has ever used Susanoo isn't far-fetched.

I don't know why Nagato couldn't dodge TB. I would strongly believe it was a plot thing since Pain was able to see through smoke when fighting Jiraiya and if Nagato was being controlled by Kabuto why would Kabuto not use all of Nagato's abilities to the fullest and move out the way of incoming TB's. It just sound incomprehensible.

Nagato actually never moved after absorbing Bee V2 cloak. MIG you're all about panels and looking at the manga, after he absorbed Bee's chakra he pushed him away, pulled Naruto, a bit after some Rinnegan shenanigans gets his arm cut off and sets up CT. It really leads me to think if Nagato even moved behind Bee or if Bee was thrown towards Nagato. You can't tell if you look at the panels subjectively of course.

I don't get how Nagato is crippled as well because yes he should've been able to absorb others chakra and heal. (@Ninja) 3 examples are Kisame when he is on turtle island and reverses some ninjas wire paralysis jutsu, Kisame again when he healed from Bee's V2 Lariat and the most obvious is when Madara was revived and healed by absorbing the Nine tails's cloaks from others to heal his injury inflicted by Sasuke's sword.

MIG: The blade isn't clearly fast. Of the two instances its used, Orochimaru wasn't expecting it to be TB and seal him its like Madara taking Sasuke's sword hit, he knows it won't do much and that was what Oro was thinking. Especially when you have Rinnegan which is dodging FTG (Via Madara)and SM Naruto frog kata(Via Gakido path). If Nagato would have seen Itachi through the smoke, his Susanoo armoring up its highly likely he would've dodged and if he wasn't standing still or tracking Itachi, Bee or Naruto then this further increases his chances. Plus TB is a sword so it's limited in range.

MIG: You keep going on about YM being omnidirectional but that's it you're the only one. If no one is going to agree with you and the vast vast majority says its not, then accept it thats a debate right. Of the translations I've seen it says it changes attributes which is vague (wait for it)depending on how far you stretch the context. YM is an incredibly strong weapon and is sort of god like, which is why I would accept only something as god like as CT to have it not be effective.

Ninja: That was only anime but having said I would think Jiraiya would be someone who could perform jutsu with no/one hand since others like Kakashi and even Haku did but the fact is he didn't. And even though I can accept that I've given why I think Itachi slightly edges Jiraiya already.