Forum:Logical conclusions?

Right, this is something I've been having a problem with here for quite some time.

I understand that as a Wiki our job is to give accurate information about the series to the best of our ability. But I think that part of this should include presenting the logical conclusion to presented information.

For example, We've credited Orochimaru with the creation of the Curse Mark, but when it came to who made the Four Black Fog Battle formation, we didn't list him as the creator despite it likely being the case because there's the smallest chance Kabuto played a part in its creation.

Now I'm not suggesting we present theories in the articles or anything and I don't believe we should let things presented in unconnected media effect one another, so nothing from anime effecting manga data etc. So no change there.

But I find we're overly willing to avoid presenting the obvious with nothing to the contrary simply because it hasn't be explicitly confirmed.

Now I understand that what might be the obvious conclusion might not be the right one, but by the very nature of the manga and the ability to edit our information, we can always fix this later as we have done until now. I don't need to bring up Itachi's Villain status, Tobi's true identity or the other revelations that have changed what we thought to be true, even more minor things, like until recently I believe it was commonly accepted that Hashirama died before Tsunade was born.

I know I might not have presented this in the most comprehensive manner ever, but basically, I would like to open it up to discuss a change in policy to include a certain greater degree of Ockham's Razor here, especially in cases where we're unlikely to receive more information. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 02:21, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have no idea the issue wit the Four Black Fog Battle Formation, but I myself have been having some serious issues with the lack of logical conclusions. Using a history lesson, before we knew the Fourth was Naruto's father, everyone speculated that yeah he was. We had absolutely no evidence to prove this, just that the two happened to look alike and acted alike. But we had to battle tooth and nail to keep people from adding to articles "He is most likely Naruto's father".
 * What came from this was the absolute refusal do anything unless it was spelled out in black and white. This kept everything we would have in articles as what we knew for sure. Ok that was fine, until I started to notice things that just didn't make sense. For example, we would sit and argue back and forth that Ink Creation wasn't a tailed beast skill. Why? Because it was never said it was a Tailed Beast Skill, but that would require us to ignore that the Eight-Tails is an octopus, octopuses create ink, safe from wrestling moves/lightning techniques all of B's abilities have been tailed beast related.
 * This became a wall of me ranting, but basically we've reached the apex of an issue that has begun years ago, we are literally trying very hard to not think and come up with logical conclusions about things and instead want Kishimoto to spoon feed us things that we don't really need him to.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 02:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)