Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-6769189-20180223172214

Vladosaurus wrote: I like how you all assume that Guy's attacks are undodgeable, yet we are talking about the person who tricked the third raikage and outpaced the forth raikage. Granted, Naruto might not be able to use the same feats as he did in nine-tails chakra mode, but he still has kyuubi assistance and we know that even the slightest amp from Kurama increases Naruto speed and power drastically. And these are added on top of SM.

And the funniest thing is that the main debate is Guy vs Naruto in taijutsu, and a lot of you totally ignore the fact that Naruto specialises primarily in ninjutsu, not taijutsu. And once again, like all SM debates, you totally ignore the fact that Naruto has Frog Kata which is able to kill off a Path of Pain, and who is pretty much undodgeable because Guy has no way to know when it's coming, nor has he any idea about it in general. The only downside of this battle on Naruto's part is the fact that since you said that he's vs Pain level of SM, that means that he can't keep his SM for longer time, and i assume he also doesn't have shadow clones ready to restore his SM, so because of that Naruto would lose this battle. But any other version of Naruto who is able to manipulate his SM better would win (excluding the 8th gate of course in which case he gets oneshotted).

Also in my opinion, the gates are over hyped. KCM Naruto was about as fast as 4th Raikage. Anything less than that is significantly slower.

3rd Raikage had about 8 Tails level durability. 8th Gate Guy gave a 10 Tails jinchuriki a beatdown.

Frog Kata is nowhere near as powerful as its made out to be. Naruto literally used it like, once and never again because its really only good for one surprise attack.