Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180629110712/@comment-27924662-20180630105253

Rachin123 wrote: @Namikaze Her defeating the clones was necessarily an impressive feat nor am I making it that way. But, considering Naruto needed to use his mode to fight them, I'm going to say they aren't just kids. You mean Naruto not killing kids and using one of his clones in biju mode to hold them down? Naruto was the only one who didn't injure a single kid out there. Rachin123 wrote: Anyway, the bigger feat was her going toe to toe with Shin despite him having the Mangekyo Sharingan. The fact she could keep up with him proves that if he didn't have the Mangekyo, she'd probably defeat him in close combat and have an easier time to land a chakra-enhanced punch. Sakura's movements throughout the battle proves her speed can match Kakashi. She not only effectively dodged Shin's fast moving blade-made shuriken, but countered by throwing a large rock pillar at him and placed explosive tags without being noticed until the last minute. Not having the Sharingan's precognition really weakens him compared to before. Not necessarily. For starters, If you are adapted to high level combat chances are you can actually keep that level up. It's not really conclusive. Her fight with Shin was short compare to any other fight one would see in Naruto. She Wrecks the kids but was going to go down within a minute or so. You might say I some aspect That she was actually lucky, Sure I am not saying that Sakura cannot match Kakashi at speed, after all Tsunade did get Madara however she couldn't exactly use her monster punches in close combat now did she? Sakura had several chances to "throw" her monster punches at Mangeykyou user Shin but she failed. It clearly shows that in order to get that level of speed in combat she has to "sacrifice" her power. Rachin123 wrote: Sure he may have more chakra reserves to rely on now, but clearly we know she has a lot of chakra anyway thanks to her seal. Katsuyu can distract Kakashi so Sakura can land a hit. She doesn't even really need to directly strike him to harm him. Do you remember Zabuza's death? How he was about to be killed while being held down by several Hounds? In one of the possible Scenario for this fight I see Sakura going down in similar fashion in silent killing. As for Sharingan, I am sure his limit is no longer Four Raikiri? So is it safe to say like he can spam his technique? That's what I am counting on to give him the edge to win.

Thekillman wrote: Sakura has by far the easier win condition (punch Kakashi once and it's over), but Kakashi has by far the greater skill set to deal with that. Means both have to fight to the very best of their abilities to win. I think Sakura has the slight edge here, though. Isn't saying monster punch enough for win like saying Kakashi can escape the punch every time by using substitution jutsu? The punch has too many weaknesses. It's short range, requires preemptive time to prepare and not to mention it would likely fail if Kakashi caught her Wrist and makes a counter move.

LegionZero wrote: Proof that suffocation would actually work? Because Tsunade had vital organs sliced in half and didn't seem to give much of a damn.

As for silent killing, Sakura's punches cause like, nuke sized explosions casually. I'm sure that would be enough to push the mist away.

Kakashi did have some awesome stamina during the 4WW but he went 36ish hours straight before succumbing to exhaustion. Byakugo has like 3 years+ worth of chakra in it. Proof? You don't know what Suffocation is? I am not sure, Is sakura's punch wind style? Because you would probably need directed wind to low it away which her punch definitely not provides. Tsunade exhausted her chakra against Pain. Does that means Pain has more chakra than her 3 year reserve? Or how she lost most of her chakra in fight with Orochimaru? I don't think its that high level. Mastering it required that much time after all if it really had 3 years of chakra shouldn't creating another one take another 3 years?