Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180728104553/@comment-6769189-20180730192503

CombatIQmatters wrote: @Legion Zero

Konan blinded him with a huge amount of papers and his initial read was correct, he had an idea she was trying to overhwlem him and bait him into materializing, so he did the right move and let the papers pass through until he could see what she was trying to do. That was the only "shits and giggles part" But right AFTER that, Konan appears and he grabs her, and he basically believed he won ( evidenced by him saying "YOU'RE FINISHED" and didn't think konan was capable of anything else, until she surprised him with the paper bombs. You clearly see the excalamation point. He can't suck things in and be intangible at the same time so he had no choice but to hope he teleported away the bombs in time. He is lucky his arm was the only thing that was blown off. A second later and he might have been dead, hence him saying : "I took you too lightly". He assumed Konan was a scrub apparently and was proven wrong. I'm not saying that Konan is superior to Obito, but he was outmanuevered and suprised in that instance, Konan exceeded his expectations. If obito was just about "shits and giggles" surely he realized that would be stupid, why risk dying when getting the Rinnegan means everything to him? Doesn't make sense. How did she outmanuver/outsmart him when Obito chose to put himself in a position to be hurt? Konan would have made no progress if he chose to just stay intangible and back away. He said "clearly she has some sort of plan, I'll accept her challange" She only landed her first hit because Obito was curious to see what would happen not because she forced him to make a certain move. Her plan also ultimately failed because it was suppose to be a kill but Obito was fast and smart enough to suck the bombs in instead of himself.

The second time she took him by surprise but she didnt hurt him at all. Her plan failed.

Konan had 15 years to come up with a strategy to win. She also had a shit ton of prep time before Obito showed up and she still lost.

Sasuke noted that Kakashi had no openings after Naruto's attempt to trap him. Surprising someone doesnt mean they were outsmarted, it just means they werent expecting something. Kakashi was utterly shocked by Sasuke's use of Fireball but that doesnt mean he didnt have ways to counter/avoid it or that he wasnt smart enough to get away from it.

The plan to free Kakashi was one of the times a plan worked out. The plan was "free Kakashi" and they did. Konan's plan was "kill Obito" and she failed. 3 times.