Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180607192958/@comment-36699565-20180905100116

CombatIQmatters@

No in NV it's not. Thier travel speed is limited. By your logic, old Hiruzen is as fast as Tobirama since he appeared on the field  seconds later after Tobirama. Someone who had a shitty speed rating in part 1. Hashirama clearly says "teleport us to the battlefield" why'd he say that if they used the usual Shunshin? So you're outright wrong and claiming falsehood there. Minato's FTG was compared to V1 Raikage in speed; Mabui's Transmission technique transports at light-speed. Hence there are time-frames between the completed warp. Tobirama complimented Minato for his skillful FTG utilization and him improving it to the point he's faster than former in technique-speed. Or else he'd say "faster than our shunshin" but that isn't the case. Tobirama was also the fastest in his time-period due to FTG. FTG is considered "speed" by Kishimoto; have you ever read the databooks? It says "high speed movement" in reference to FTG; if according to your silly logic it was referring to "instantaneous movement" it wouldn't say "high speed movement".

No you can't simply assume that with your outright silly false headcanon. We've seen how the duo operates. They don't attack him together; Bee is just support. Ā is the main guy who takes the front and attacks him. We've seen him getting killed almost by Bee; if Bee actively interfered in thier fight; he would've been killed already. So what you're saying is outright silly and false.

Yeah and that proves he isn't incapable of being crushed by anyone near Kage Level. A 15 year old got him almost killed; no reason to hold onto the silly fanfic that he's too fast for anyone when in actuality he's ridiculously slow. I see you don't have proof hence you go around assuming. It's funny you can't prove your case and swing from loop to loop. Like a fanboy.

He isn't faster than the Gokage when he required FTG to even warp away from V1. Which confirms his Shunshin is pathetically slow considering he couldn't use it against V1. Even 3T Sasuke evaded and penetrated Ā's physique through Cheedori. So he's confirmed to be slower.

And no you're the one claiming the outright silly headcanon and falsehoods.

For some silly childish reason; Bee's comment was retcon for this guy. Why? Because he wants to deny facts like a fanboy. You're acting like he did not get a sword stabbed right into his gut by Base Bee almost. Sasuke on the other hand; swiftly evaded his sword strikes until the second half which was due to him weakened physically after Itachi's fight. He even evaded V1 Bijuu Cloak which is millions faster than Base. So yes the comment true. He got his ass roasted by Amaterasu hence the comment true. Whereas he had the confidence to stab him in the gut and kill him during thier FTG utilized face-off. You can't deny that fact. And, address my comment point by point. Not scattered replies which won't get us anywhere.

- You haven't proven he had V2. He used V1 due to no hair spike. Tobirama's garbage chakra fling could break the nearby rocks but you think Raiton enhanced Bijuu rising chakra levels (as noted by Karin) won't push the head band outside? Don't ridiculously spread falsity. Comprehend the manga at least once with some common sense.

- None of what I said is fanfic; whereas you on the other hand has claimed nothing but outright false fanfic.

- And no my argument isn't "He used V1 all these years" rather "he did not have V2 all these years". If you had used your head you'd have understood. It's like talking to children honestly.