Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20180509212801/@comment-33959444-20180513185053

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Obito has no counter tsukuyomi or mind control genjutsu. Controlling one obito is simple for itachi if he controls multiple people on a daily. Uchiha blood isnt breaking tsukuyomi which give complete control to the caster when we've the fact itachi was lying. Portrayal wise obito was nothing more than a nuisance in front of itachi which is why he didnt finish him off. Obito speed, reactions, reflexes dont compare to itachi's. That simple. All the attacks obito throws at him he can dodge whereas the same cannot be said to obito. Itachi has never been shown mind controlling anybody except for some girl who wasn't even a ninja. Obito, meanwhile, controlled a Perfect Jinchuriki. Obito is nothing more than a nuisance portrayal wise? I'm starting to doubt you watched the series. I wonder if that's why Itachi called him his teacher and stated he needed the EMS to surpass him. Obito reacted to the Fourth Raikage, Hebi and MS Sasuke, KCM Naruto, and BM Naruto. He showed better speed feats than Itachi. So Itachi can dodge Kamui, despite it being fast enough to let Obito escape from KCM Naruto? I laughed once you said that Obito couldn't dodge Itachi, considering he can literally pass through all attacks. Please try to keep bias out of these debates...

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: FlatZone wrote: Obito won't be stopped with normal Sharingan genjutsu, Tsukuyomi and Izanami can and will affect him though, with him breaking out of Tsukuyomi and him losing to Izanami. Itachi is so fast that literally all he needs is a split second to kill Obito, and Izanami or Tsukuyomi will afford that to him. Obito knows what Itachi can do and he knows he isn't winning that fight. In itachis case normal genjutsu isnt normal. It depends on the user as manga established. Shukaku said that itachi can control individuals without being sensed, obito wont realize hes in a genjutsu and that time itachi can chop his throat off. Shikaku said that, but he was proven wrong when we were revealed that it was the Zetsu disguising themselves as Shinobi Alliance members. Obito won't realize he's caught in a Genjutsu? Yeah, stop acting as if Obito is fodder. I'm pretty sure that the mean who controlled the Nine Tails would realize if he's in a Genjutsu if Naruto and Orochimaru were able to do so... FlatZone wrote: Obito won't be stopped with normal Sharingan genjutsu, Tsukuyomi and Izanami can and will affect him though, with him breaking out of Tsukuyomi and him losing to Izanami. Itachi is so fast that literally all he needs is a split second to kill Obito, and Izanami or Tsukuyomi will afford that to him. Obito knows what Itachi can do and he knows he isn't winning that fight. I wonder where you guys are getting that Itachi is so much faster than Obito... Izanami takes time to set up, something that was explained pretty clearly in the fight against Kabuto. Yet everybody is acting as if it's instant... Obito knows he isn't winning a fight with Itachi? Where was that stated. I'd like to know.