Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-26107879-20180908025859

The thing is. Obito moved his hands faster than Ay did. The evidence in both those situations show that. Obito needed to move his hands a few inches to change the posture to grab his wrist. Ay just needed to press an inch forward to break his nose. But Ay couldn't keep up with hand speed. Obito could.

Then the mid air thrust. The thing is, Minato has to be able to physically move fast to be able to strike Ay in that situation. Ay is in his full movement speed, already at the top of his momentum, and had every advantage. All he had to do was move forward or even turn around. He could not. Minato was able to change his posture and strike faster than Ay could move a foot. That is clear physical speed. To be able to change posture and strike requires physical speed. Then his obvious faster physical speed then the former Hokage. Madara kept up fine with Ay. I'm sure Hashirama is Madara's equal or even better. Therefore I'm sure Minato is the superior one in movement speed due to his movement being faster than Hashirama.