Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-34194151-20180906053902

@Hagomromo:

Don't misunderstand, I read the OP, but that claim that he was simply "producing ridoku senjutsu", while possible, is not substantiated by anything. I erroneously said you claimed something you didn't, so my bad, but what I mean is there is another possibility that can explain this phenomenon. he was already in sage mode, as he used a sage art rasenshuriken. Since when does naruto use sage mode techniques without already being in sage mode? You can make the claim that kurama gathered the chakra for him to enter sage mode (still remains to be refuted by Legion), but that would mean he is in a KSM without a cloak. Your theory states he only entered RSM once he got the cloak with the coffin seal. There has never been a precedent for something like this except for maybe Juubito's initial incomplete RSM, where he only had two truth seeking balls etc, and had to gradually gain full control of the juubi in order to fully maximize his sage mode.

Also, I think your car and gas analogy is good, but i don't understand why hagoromo would need to give him the ability to use RSM when, according to you, kneading ridoku senjutsu sufficiently is all that is necessary. Why would hagoromo need to give naruto the car, when madara and juubito seemed to get both the car and the gas from simply kneading juubi chakra? Perhaps this could be related to my juubito point, perhaps because naruto has significantly less bijuu chakra, it's much harder to knead the chakra, and hagoromo jump started his engine or something lol.