Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150411112131/@comment-5936871-20150411211026

@Elve Hagoromo being a priest is irrelevant since he has shown that he has godlike power and is a master of dozens of various jutsu (although he said he made and used ninshu, he clearly had to use it offensively against the Ten-Tails and he had his treasured tools and sword meaning he technically used ninjutsu himself). He is the main one who gave humanity chakra and had full and complete understanding of it and it's workings. Even though Zetsu possessed Madara before he was able to continue his battle with Naruto and Sasuke, we can't really use that because based on what we've seen Hagoromo is still beyond anything TTJ Madara did at all points. @Rachin First off, Nagato flat out stated that the "moon" he created paled in comparison to Hagoromo's, and even Madara never made anything as large as Hagoromo's either. Also, Hagoromo and Hamura together made the moon, not just Hagoromo, before he even became the TTJ. You must have misread or skimmed over what Hagoromo said, he stated himself that he was out of chakra (since he gave almost all of it to Naruto and Sasuke earlier) and could hardly maintain his presence in the physical world. He also didn't have a physical body, which is why he had to give his chakra to Naruto and Sasuke to fight for him against Madara and is the reason he couldn't stop Sasuke.