Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-27660682-20160321003650

SuperSaiyaMan wrote: MlGshinobi wrote: @Supersayiaman, it was outright stated that madara got stronger once he was revived, deny manga facts if you want. @Ninja of War, that's not how the genjustu works, it isn't actual darkness, it made hiruzen and his shadow clones perceive infinite darkness around them, it's a genjustu that simply messes with the user sight and doesn't impair your other senses. All genjustu messes with your sense of sigh t and make you see stuff that isn't there. The sharingan can easily detect the darkness, just like sasuke saw through Cee's infinite light blinding genjustu. That was Hashirama's misconception, MIGShinobi. Hashirama is no longer an expert on Madara, he couldn't know what he was thinking. We have a canon statement that Madara in his Edo Form was far stronger than he was in life, far stronger than his prime. And question: what's Hashirama's counter to Madara just using Outer Path to control him after impaling him with those six Chakra Recievers? Ohthat's right, he has no counter and Hashirama didn't even realize he had already lost. Do I really need to post reference for this? Even madara said that tobirama was weaker as an edo tensi, and he said the senju brothers could no longer keep up with their former selves due to being the edo zombies. Madara was stronger in his prime because of kabuto's further modifications, but that doesn't change the manga fact that he was still weaker than his full potential due to being an edo tensi. Hashriama was a good deal stronger when they fought in real life, and he  beats him in stamina by just enough to win everyy time. Even after gaining the rinnegan and mokuton, madara was still not able to fully close the gap. And the rods, whoo knows when he implanted those. He hsd to plant those rods manually into obito in order to use them, so that was either plot or happened sometime off panel.