Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3290849-20160123000240/@comment-26369387-20160123180756

Ravenlot 27 wrote: Well, Sasuke didn't get a chance to use PS in it's true form before Hagoromo's powerup, and Madara implied he'd used PS during his lifetime, i.e. before he awakened the Rinnegan. So it's quite possible. If EMS Sasuke really had PB — S, he would've used it against Ten Tails Obito. After all, if he had chance to go to humanoid Suanoo, I'm sure he would've went straight to PB — S.

As for Madara, he more likely talked about the fight in the Valley of the End with Hashirama and in that fight he used MA: S on Kurama and in that form he cutted the mountains... Also, Hashirama was surprised, when he saw Madara using PB — S.

Thekillman wrote: JouXIII wrote: ^While that's true, had manga shown that both EMS Sasuke AND EMS Madara could've used Perfect Body — Susanoo pre-Rinnegan Madara uses Perfect Susanoo during Hashirama's flashback (or more like FlashBackStory).

Majestic Attire: Susanoo is pretty much Perfect Susanoo in a slightly different form.

That's anime-only, so it doesn't count.

While I do agree that with MA: S, Susanoo goes to state that's SIMILIAR to PB — S, it doesn't mean it's THE PB — S. As it has been shown, Kurama's chakra can enhance ninjutsu, and since Susanoo is ninjutsu, the form of Susanoo could be because of Kurama.