Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-33308438-20171013155646

It says mastered all jutsus though ..... so ofcourse he mastered ftg. Why should there be a manga statement + 4 databooks statements that hiruzen can do all jutsu masterfully if he cannot really do it? What happened with oro is definitely PIS. Why should the 4th databook released after war arc and end of naruto say lies about hiruzen if it isnt true ? And enma surprising has nothing to do with hiruzen's speed but it has to do with enma's speed. Hiruzen can wield it skillfully enough to clash with the kusanagi blade of a more healthier orochimaru. So enma wielding skill combined with ftg mastery can counter ftg and defeat sage minato. You do know that hiruzen was cornered right? You do know that 1st hokage fought uchiha madara right? Tobirama killed izuna who was said to be madara level? So you shouldnt actually underestimate both of them fighting together against one guy, that too an old man as the ANBU stated , he didnt have enough chakra and stamina to create 2 shadow clones according to them bcuz of old age , such low stamina he had at that time. So prime hiruzen wouldnt have any of this stamina issues and would time his attacks correctly.

Summoning rashomon is a huge feat since TBB is one of the fastest projectiles in narutoverse. That too a weakened old age orochimaru. Just bcuz he changed appearance doesnt mean he is not affected by old age.