Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3568954-20160929132500/@comment-3568954-20160929214618

Naruto already knows how to throw a punch effectively. when you train to throw punches you are not developing the muscles. on the contrary. its a literal mind over matter type of situation. when we physically train contrary to what people believe. you are not actually refining the muscles. but the programming our neurons to respond. when you repetively do a physical activity over and over. you record the data in the neurons. when you need to pull that data up. the neurons fire and cause the muscles to release more of the natural strength you have inside you. you see humans are actually remarkably strong. the average human muscle fiber has an incredible tensile strenght to the point that if every muscle fiber in the body was used in tandom the average human could lift around 20 tonnes. physical training simply develops neural muscle memory. using neural muscle memory the neurons fire and tell each muscle to use X amount of muscle fibers and as such this is what allows for a boost of strength. so if naruto did the above method. the 1000 shadow clones throwing 10 punches each would still be an cumulative increase in gains. i have done something similar in real life, obviously not the shadow clones, but the principle is the same to Low weight High rep. its like this

bruce lee had a training program where he would do 12 sets of 100. this would allow him to get 1200 reps in some times he would switch it up and do 100 sets of 12. he would see the same cumalitive gains. for me, i purchased a speed bag. instead of just going all out on the bag for an hour each day. i did 3 minutes on the bag a day. because i practiced with slow and precise technique. after about a week. i was able to hit the bag like i had been boxing for a few months. because in reality it doesn't matter how many reps you do in a set. the most important aspect is the overal number of reps you do counting all sets. so if you do 100 sets of 10, you still did 1000 reps. in this manner you also have a quicker recovery time. essentially because its not very physically demanding to do 100 sets of 12. the same thing would happen if naruto used his shadow clones. his body wouldn't build up the same level of exaustion because each would have only thrown 10 precise and efficient punches. when the jutsu was undone he would have still achieved 10,000 efficient reps.

Shinden wrote: The strength of his shadow clones also depend on how much charka is given,surely?

yes but it was also explained that naruto has to much chakra waist so it requires him more chakra to create a single shadow clone. and can only create the shadow clone volume because of how large his chakra volume is. over time he develops better chakra control. but at the same time its stated any jutsu a ninja practices gets easier to do over time and requires less chakra. but i was talking about skill and not actual strenght. we know that overall chakra volume is important but we also know that kakashi with a 3 can take on and fight kisame who is a 5 in stamina. so at the same time chakra volume isn't the most important thing. if naruto had Gai Sensei's skill in taijutsu his shadow clones would as well. there has never been any mention that shadow clones have less skill, simply that they have less chakra. so if naruto was a taijutsu master, his shadow clones would be taijutsu masters as well. meaning they would be harder to defeat