Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-34194151-20180821173512

@Vladosaurus,

Except Obito rofl blitzed kakashi with a shuriken to the leg without any kind of reaction from kakashi. You could make the argument kakashi was emotionally-off centered, but he had no trouble making an earth wall to block shurikens just a few seconds earlier.

I agree now that saying Minato is as fast in running speed as Tobi is speculation. I mean they both ran at each other and started their dash at roughly the same time, but in the manga at least there isn't enough info that they covered the same amount of distance with their running during the course of that entire fight, Tobi was complimenting Minato's shunshin speed as well. Minato was fast enough, after teleporting to kushina, to grab her before she got struck by a nine tails claw and shunshin on top of a nearby tree, unless you think that minato had a FTG tag on that random tree. and while obito commended his sensei's body flicker, he didn't say that minato's body flicker was faster than his, so there isn't enough info. Sometimes when I rewatch that fight, It almost feels like Tobi being Obito was something of a partial retcon. OBito's reactions to minato seemed unnatural, I mean why would he be surprised by his sensei's speed after all the time they spent together? Kishi did hint earlier before the flashback that tobi was likely obito, but the flashback felt like it had bad writing.

And what is kcm naruto's normal speed. he is always using his speed. He is not a character that would toy with his opponents or hold back his speed to evade a target, especially since he didn't want to afford getting tagged by obito. I don't think obito is faster than naruto but he seemed to be of comparable speed. Guy never kept up with kcm naruto nor did kakashi, there were always third party variables involved, such as naruto seemingly being unable to move and kakashi being launched at top speed by gyuki arm.

Also, by your own logic naruto was using his "normal speed" against TTJ obito too.