Talk:Mystical Palm Technique

I wonder why ppl say that this technique is the same as the Chakra Scalpel, I mean there's not much evidence pertaining to it being the same technique.
 * And what evidence is there to say it isn't the same technique, last I checked chakra scalpel was a fan name and there was no separate official name given for use of this technique in that mode. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 04:59 (UTC)

Well some evidence shows that a number of few websites show these as 2 different jutsu, plus the techniques are not similar in use. The Mystical Palm focuses more on healing and uses green chakra. The Chakra Scalpel uses jarring, intense blue chakra to sever muscle and weaken them. Granted, they have a few similarites, but their differences are significant.
 * Note that just cause other sites on the internet list it that way does not make for a good citation. That only shows the weight of speculation in favor of one possibility, and is largely influenced by when fansubs create names. Do remember "Kira Hachi", we mistranslated that here by mistake and it spread throughout the internet, if we used that as a citation we'd be using a completely false name right now. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 05:35 (UTC)

well, u can also note the significant differences between the 2 to spur a separation of the techniques.
 * The differences in modes is already noted in the article. But there is no jutsu name for the other "separate jutsu" so you can hardly split it. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 05:40 (UTC)

it was actually called Chakra no Mesu, and during the fight between Kabuto and Tsunade, when he used it on her, Tsunade seemed somewhat unfamiliar with the technique. --AMTNinja 05:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

What she seemed was surprised with Kabuto's application of the technique, saying he was/could be best than her at her prime. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Chakra Scalpel
Ok I'm here to petition to make Mystical Palm and Chakra Scalpel 2 seprate articles. I know some say its the same technique, and it may be. But we don't know that for sure! The chakra scalpel is very different from the mystical palm as the latter is a healing technique (Green chakra), while the chakra scalpel is an offensive medical ninjutsu (Blue chakra). Plus, in the ultimate ninja series, Kabuto uses this technique and calls it "Chakra Dissection Blade" I thouhgt about putting it on the mystical palm article but that would be too many names for just one technique so I figure we just make a Chakra Scalpel article and simply link the two articles to refer to each toehr to still show they are very similar. It's worth a try right? AMTNinja (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did some research and I'd like to say two things.
 * You're wrong about the being an offensive technique. Kabuto using it in an offensive way was extremely unusual and required great skill. It's simply a technique used for surgery just like a normal scalpel.
 * You're right about it being different from the Mystical Palm Technique. Mysstical Palm Technique accelerates the body's healing. It cannot in any way be used to make incisions. The Chakra Scalpel is one of the many medical ninjutsu that went unexplained in the manga and databooks, like the Cursed Seals used stabilise Kimimaro and to heal Chōji after the "Rescue Sasuke" arc. There was a short mention of them in the second databook in an article discussing medical ninjutsu in general. There was probably not enough interesting information about them to warrant a separate jutsu article. However, there is no doubt that the Chakra Scalpel is not the Mystical Palm Technique.
 * --ShounenSuki (talk 23:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok cool, so if it IS different from it, then it really shouldn't be in the same article. And maybe if Chakra Scalpel isn't a real jutsu per se, it's used a lot in media pertaining to Kabuto, especially in games. So I'm still for making a completely new article. What do you think? AMTNinja (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the information we have is enough to give the Chakra Scalpel its own article. It definitely shouldn't be included in this article. --ShounenSuki (talk 08:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)