Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20160126112547/@comment-26773508-20160131072545

MlGshinobi wrote: Baku the data book clearly says the shield alters its attributes to render any attack ineffective. Too vague a statement. "Alters its attributes to render any attack ineffictive" DOES NOT MEAN that the shield is omnidirectional. Taken at face value, the most we can gather from that statement is that the Yata Mirror can deflect any attack thrown in front of it. I'll have more to say about this in connection to your next claim.

MIGshinobi wrote: Being able to alter its size was already proven in the fight versus sasuke, so that verifies the databooks claim it can alter ANY of its properties. Nope there's no evidence the shield changed its size during Sasuke vs. Itachi. You must be referring to the part where Orochimaru's 8-headed Orochi attacked Itachi's susanoo, and got the impression from that single obscure manga panel that somehow the Mirror changed its size. Except that in all probability, it didn't. The Mirror already looked big enough before the Orochi snakes attacked, and hence there was no need to change the size of the mirror. Because with basic skills of spatial orientation, Susanoo's left arm could easily block the snakes without changing the size of the mirror.

In simpler words, Itachi's Susanoo simply positioned its left arm in the right angle/direction to effectively block the giant snakes. The anime also doesn't show the Yata Mirror expanding.

MIGshinobi wrote: If it can change size, why cant it change width, length, curvature ? Therefore if needed the shield can cover the entire susanoo. Like I said, there's no evidence whatsoever that the Mirror can change its size. "It can change its attributes" is too vague a phrase to conclude that the mirror gives 360 degree protection.

MIGshinobi wrote: No where does it say it can only deflect elements. It just says its endowed with all nature transformations, which makes sense as it wouldnt be able to deflect all attacks if it didnt have the versatility of the elements. Yes, I checked out some other forums and one of the DB3 translations in the wiki itself, and it seems most fans agree that the official databook translation mentions "attributes" instead of merely "elemental nature". So by hype, Yata Mirror can deflect almost all attacks thrown in its way (I say "almost all" because Truth Seeking Balls and other forms of that black thingy can nullify all ninjutsu, which may include the Yata Mirror's defence).

MIGshinobi wrote: Even then, how is nagato getting behind susanoo? Easy. Nagato gets bombards Itachi from every direction by using his summons and his OP Rinnegan abilities. Itachi will be distracted with slicing the summons with the Totsuka Blade and defending himself with the Yata Mirror. In the chaos, Nagato can sneak behind quite easily and Shinra Tensei the fuck out of Itachi till he reaches the moon.

And I'm not sure about this, but I think Nagato can use his invisible chameleon to sneak on Itachi. Not sure if sharingan can detect that chameleon or not.

AND FINALLY: The main thing you're assuming here is that Itachi will effortlessly spam his MS abilities to overpower and distract Nagato. That's simply not possible because MS, and especially Susanoo, takes an enormous toll on the user. Just one minute of Susanoo and Itachi will writhing with pain in the ground, though still protected by Susanoo (for a while, that is).

Just look at Part 1 Itachi. He was presumably healthier then, even if he had already caught his fatal illness. I assume this because fatal illnesses usually progress and deteriorate the body in time, so in all likelihood, Itachi was healthier in Part 1. Now let's see how a healthier Itachi's body behaved in Part 1. Itachi performed Tsukuyomi on Part 1 Kakashi for only 3 seconds and yet Itachi was already bleeding from the eye and was down on his knees for a while.

So even when healthy, a single use of an MS ability sends shockwaves of pain throughout the user's body for quite sometime. MS Sasuke is a prime example of this.

Therefore, Itachi's durability is of vital importance in this debate. And it is something you're ignoring.