Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190805194702/@comment-43403813-20190808003144

@AsianReaper Call it whatever you want, it was not intended as a strawman, it was not my main argument. It is your opinion that simpler win conditions doesn't imply decrease of time, whether you genuinely believe that or are using that to justify what you're saying. I think it does imply decrease of time.

You misunderstand, when I did talk about Nagato and Obito's encounters with the Kyuubi, I was talking about the Kyuubi itself, not Naruto as the Jinjuuriki. My address of the commonly used reason for this versus going in Obito's favour was, by all means compare Obito vs Naruto and Pain/Nagato vs Naruto, but not Obito and his control of the Kyuubi and Pain's attempt to capture the Kyuubi, because as I said, genjutsu was used, making it an inaccurate comparison between the two if they were to fight each other. I shall reiterate, unfair comparison using the tailed beast, NOT the host. Both Obito and Pain/Nagato fought Naruto without the usage of genjutsu, making it a more accurate comparison than Obito and Nagato's differently attempted conquests of the tailed beast Kurama itself. Have I made sense or should I clarify more (not rhetorical)? On a side note, I don't want this page to turn into a different debate, so I apologise if I've confused you, and I'm trying my best to eloquently present my argument.

@FlatZone I did not even think of that. Animal path could possibly stay safe in the sky where Obito can't reach him/her on the bird summoning, and whenever a path gets taken into Kamui, re-summon them. And thus the Animal path can keep spamming summons from a safe location.