Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181002190704

@Loneninja

I brought you cold-hard facts though.

the totsuka blade is hypersonic+++, defeating both orochimaru and nagato without so much as a mental reaction from either.

while most of the itachi vs obito thing is opininated, I simply pointed out there were many complicated circumstances surrounding itachi and his time in the akatsuki. What did I prove here though is that itachi didn't have a complete set of knowledge about obito's abilities, which is what caused merely ONE of itachi's fail-safes to fail, notice i used plural for the word "safes". so this whole argument about itachi being weaker in tactics compared to konan has been debunked. I also referenced several feats of his tactical prowess in other battles that also debunk that claim. konoha was always intended to do most of the heavy lifting against obito and the akatsuki, otherwise itachi would have taken out some more members before dying, and even then that wouldn't be easy. Even if obito is the head, obito clearly complained about the dwindling members of the akatsuki. by the end of it all the akatsuki was reduced to obito, kisame, and zetsu.recruitment wasn't as easy as you made it seem.

so, back to the battle, and why itachi wins. Itachi's ideal goal would be to line the trio up and take them out in one go with the totsuka blade. I see no reaction feats from the trio to suggest they could react to a totsuka blade finisher supplemented by an effective diversion (orochimaru already can't mentally react, konan got tagged by a much slower attack already, and unless you think kimimaro has better reflexes than oro I don't see it happening. so if it comes down to that, it's over for them. On the flip-side, I can fairly acknowledge that kimimaro's bone dance technique is a win-condition for team oro. itachi is a 1v1 specialist, so many of his normal advantages are dwindled in this fight. But like I said before, it's about execution. Itachi is faster than each of these opponents in every way, jutsu speed, reflexes, movement speed, striking speed plus a MS sharingan enhancing his own reflexes, but the fact he is up against 3 opponents might even out the stat differences, but he still has much better offensive and defensive hax. he can practically ignore 99 percent of their attacks by using susano'o. so, the bone dance technique is a trump card, something they use when itachi's focus is completely misdirected. But how do they set it up? konan has a really one dimensional arsenal if she fires origami projectiles, he would dodge those, use katon, or susano'o, paper bombs can also be prematurely detonated by katon. she probably would throw a ton of papers to blind him, and then kimimaro can cast his bone technique, but itachi isn't a purely reactionary fighter. he insightful enough to see through konan's tactic with the papers and he would clear most of them with katon. And in the smokescreen he would swap himself out with a crow clone while he tries to flank. what will orochimaru do exactly though? none of these fighters can deal with itachi's ninjutsu combos and clone feints. even if he can't line them up, i don't see how they outsmart him when he should be able to react to each of their attacks. they get exploding shadow clone feinted or crow clone feinted, and oro gets caught in tsykuyomi, konan ain't reacting to the blade, and basic genjutsu feint + totsuka finishes off kimimaro.