Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-6769189-20180808215139

CombatIQmatters wrote: @LEgionZero

Ok that's all fair, but I don't understand the dissappearing logic. When the Raikage blitzed minato he appeared to be nothing more than streaks of lightning from the viewer's perspective, and we know he is slower than minato. He only became visible again once he closed the distance, which actually is the same thing that happened with MS sasuke. So I don't understand how the disappearing effect is correlated to the relative speeds of two opponents. V2 Raikage was faster than amaterasu's ability to appear on him. KCM naruto should also be leaving afterimages to MS users as well. In his fight with Minato, we entered bullet time was close to Minato.

In his fight with Sasuke he actually came to a stop when he appeared behind Sasuke

CombatIQmatters wrote: I meant instead of using a rasengan, he could have used a rasenshuriken when kakashi was sending him to kamuiland. Its faster and simpler for Naruto to make the Rasengan than the Rasenshuriken. They also werent even sure the plan would work.

CombatIQmatters wrote: Also resend the chapter name and page because I don't see anything on 595 pg 20. Its the last page of the chapter, in the top left corner panel

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Also, I wanted to mention this in the other thread but didn't want to double post. Obito admitted that he sent sasuke to the summit so that he could hopefully weaken the kages enough so that Obito could capture them as a fail-safe before he began war. Obito wanted to capture them all but he couldn't do it by himself, so that means his speed advantage wasn't enough to take on the kages. Chapter 467 page 9. If he is KCM level of speed then he should be able to do it. So either obito got a plot upgrade just like kakashi or rinnegan somehow gave him a speed boost. Or it could be that KCM level of speed isn't anywhere near sufficient to deal with the 5 kage teamwork. IDK. Obito was playing "weakened Madara." We know for sure he is faster than A because he fared better than A in a fight with Minato. Obito could actually kidnap all of them on their own if he really wanted to, especially Mei. That was all the test Sasuke so that he could set up the fight with Danzo to get Sasuke on his side and to try to take Shisui's eye.