Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-38812954-20190922182317/@comment-33286580-20190923190007

the hype for Obito is seriously too much.

MADARA WINS.

You seem to forget that Obito without Hashi cells was a at best a Chunin level ninja. he had average levels of Chakra and stamina. he only had fire release on his side. DMS may give him application of Kamui and Susanoo, but without the Hashi cells and later Six Paths Senjutsu he acquired because of being Juubi Jinchuriki, he cannot use them as he did in canon. it is not like acquiring MS suddenly boosts your CHakra.

and no there is no such thing as Kamui Raikiri from Obito. it is Kakashi's exclusive move.

dont forget, just because Sharingan can copy moves of others, did not mean the Uchiha went and did just that. No Uchiha is ever called Copy Ninja. the name has only been associated with Kakashi, becuase he used that ability the most. Uchiha mostly go by their own strenghts of fire release and Genjutsu Sharingan. So the idea that just because Kakashi copied a 1000 jutsu does not mean Obito would too. Hell, taking that in account, even Madara probably copied over a 1000 Jutsu and given he lived longer means he had the bigger advantage.

even then itachi was a far stronger shinobi than Obito before he got half his body squashed and even then he could not use Susanoo for longer than a minute at best. in no ways is the puny Obito without Hashi or SPSM boost doing anything.

While Madara, even without Sharingan and was a kid, was considered a really strong shinobi in his clan during the clan war period. you people say he was as strong as Izuna, but the fact that he went toe to toe with Hashirama means he actually was far stronger. Likewise he had an hell of a stamina and chakra. remember he fought for days against Hashi before his supposed death (EMS also doesnt boost your chakra or stamina). the man was also more knowledgeable about many Jutsu in particular. he is also an Indra incarnate and probably one of the strongest ever before Sasuke got Hagoromo powerup.

and dont forget, most things Obito knows was taught to him by Madara. even the Genjutsu that caught Kyubi becuase his power was amped by Hashi body.

So seeing as this is the Obito that probably didnot even meet Madara his knowledge would be really limited. he wont have the insane boost of Hashi body. because he doesnt have SPSM because of becoming Juubito he does not suddenly go and make a Perfect Susanoo.

the Kamui may give problem to Madara. but seriously, a far stronger shinobi in Itachi, could barely manage MS jutsu twice or thrice at most, there is no way a freaking inferior Obito can even do something like that.

and dont forget, Madara is supposed to be a genius like Minato, so even he would probably know the workings of Kamui withing seconds.

the inferior Obito just because he has DMS does not make him capable of having power like the war arc Obito. hell he probably would be weaker than the one that fought Minato and even that Obito got his ass handed to him by Minato who had tonnes of things to focus on.