Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-28846843-20160625201600/@comment-28885945-20160630044805

QuakingStar wrote: He surpassed Tobirama(= MS Izuna = MS Madara).. AT A YOUNG AGE. I think it's safe to say in his Prime he would just about equal Hashirama. I have seen you argue so many times and no...you honestly believe Hiruzen could fight off a Susanoo? what juts in his arsenal can bypass the defense of one? Sadly he has no KG or tailed beast, maybe with control over a tailed beast he would have the fire power but he simply lacks the firepower to compete at the level of Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi. In my honest opinion Obito during the war was more powerful than him with his rinnegan and MS, he has no answer for intangibility, Kamui, the six paths techniques he's outclassed its sad but for someone with no special abilities he is the most powerful but to become Madara/Hashirama level you need to be a Jinchuriki or have so haxxed KG that how Naruto works.