Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-27660682-20160301221058

Ninja Of War wrote: Pierce is a synonym for cut and my description for pierce is straight out of the dictionary. If you are not seeing these as a fact, then it is pointless trying to explain it to you (Go look it up if you don't believe me). Also saying that the tip of the blade needs to pierce something to seal it, is made up and not a fact.

If you are going to deny actual evidence referenced from the manga, then it makes you look biased. Nagato himself stated he can't move well and Kabuto cursed Nagato's lack of mobility. These are both facts, you cannot just disregard them. Downplaying these facts is also wrong. There is no evidence that indicates the blade's speed, sorry. I have also addressed the preta path =/= healing power point. You showed no proof against any of my proposed jutsu for dealing with Susanoo. In your comparisons you used, references from a different Susanoo and a lower tier version of the rasengan, that doesn't prove anything. I compared Itachi's Susanoo, being destroyed by a mountain top leveling jutsu to another mountain top leveling jutsu, do you see the point of my comparison now?

As mentioned before, Itachi's Susanoo does not have the lower limbs, meaning it's mobility is limited. Though it does move with it's user, it is nowhere near as fast as it's user without it's lower limbs, this is referenced by both Sasuke and Itachi using Susanoo.

I suggest we try to stick to facts and reasonable assumptions, lets look at the opening stages of the fight, what are your thoughts? Not really, you made up your own personal defintions of piercing and cutting. My definitions are straight from webster dictionary. They are scientifically different. The difference was made clear in the manga as it only sealed orochimaru and nagato when the tip penetrated them, not when the edge sliced them. So keep that delusion to yourself.

Im not biased at all, keep up the insults when you dont know the difference between piercing and cutting. Nagato had limited mobility. He regained SOME mobility after absorbing gyukki chakra. He was able to walk to naruto. The blade itself is thin in width so sidesteping isnt that hard. The fact nagato was stabbed before he could even react means the blade is fast, its that simple.

All susanoos are the same in durbalility. If it cant breach rib cage its not breaking armored. And no not really, thats a baseless assimption. We dont know what stage of susanoo was used to block kirin. There is no evidence susanoo was destroyed because itachi could have just deformed it after falling on the rubble.

Itachi's Susanoo moves with the user. If he is blitzing in susanoo susanoo moves with him. Nothing suggests otherwise. Id argue susanoo with legs has less speed because the user cant use shunshin while they are standing within the crystal.

So what is jiraiya gonna open with ?