Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3394889-20140714191859/@comment-24992929-20140720090631

Rachin123 wrote: IRON4FINGERZ wrote: Rachin123 wrote: IRON4FINGERZ wrote: Steveo920 wrote: Honestly, in shows like Bleach, they make it a lot more clear on weather or not is natural or technique-related speed. It's so annoying when you think about it. I mean if you know the characters in naruto it's a bit easier, lee and GUY sensei without chakra yea can be considered the fastest "naturally" but it didn't get lee anywhere vs Gaara. Or Kimmimaro. Although Lee is one of my favorite characters, without chakra and ninjutsu in the ninja world your pretty much screwed vs those who have. Unless that person works really hard, lee does have chakra, he is just unable to use Ninjutsu. Actually it got Lee far. Gaara has never been touched until Lee. His sand armor was very hard and the fact Lee was able to mortally crack it is impressive. Using eight gates is a technique and will ultimately make you faster by enhancing things like your speed. I'm not saying oh count out techniques that improve their speed but just as you say who's fastest speed wise not teleportation explain the reason. For example, the Raikage is one of the fastest ninja in Naruto using his body flicker in coordination with lightning release. I'm not trying to downplay them but they wouldn't be that fast without it. Its their technique so that technique of theirs made them fast. Yes techniques make a shinobi faster. And yes lee did an incredible job fighting gaara, and Lee was also praised as a genius by kakashi, in which he recognized Lee for learning how to open 3 of the 8gates at such a young age. Which you may feel the word "Genius" gets thrown around to easily, but in they're ninja world that's how it is. Hard work gets you praise. But vs those who can infuse technique and jutsu win over those with a disability who can't use nintaijutsu or any type of jutsu for that matter. Remember that the ninja world doesn't recognize those without power as Pain told naruto. So those who are recognized as the fastest deserve the title of being the fastest regardless of it being natural speed or body flicker or teleport, it really shouldn't matter. All in all I like this debate. Lol. And I do understand your point of view. I never said that you couldn't say that persons the fastest but what you don't seem to get is it them or a technique. To make it real simple. Minato's FTG makes him one of the fastest ninja alive. Is that too hard to ask? I think not. And going by Naruto logic which in my opinion there hardly anything of ninjas if you compare to what ninjas acquire but in the world of Naruto you need skills in ninjutsu and taijutsu though in respect more ninjutsu than anything. My point of view is quite simple. Like I said its Minato's jutsu and it teleports him instantly. Impressive so why not say it in full. Like for Naruto. Transforming into KCM he became a lot faster. Don't just say Naruto is one if the fastest characters cuz its nine tails that make him so fast. That's it. What's hard to comprehend of that? Not hard at all, I clearly understand what your saying. It's technique vs the actual person, weather it be body flicker or space time or even FTG. Without any techniques how fast would anyone actually be. Here's the issue, no shinobi is gonna stay within normal means of speed if they have the ability to accelerate themselves through ninja techniques such as. So Minato has the fastest technique which will get him from point A to point B faster than anyone else in the ninja world. Which in a way makes him the fastest shinobi with the the fastest technique. Yay or nay? Lol