Talk:Exploding Dragon Strike

fire release
I know it can't be stated as fire release. but can you add some how it can working. even it part of generic sealing tech. sign by --Jumpjet (talk) 10:13, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * If we say so, that's obviously speculation. --Ilnarutoanime26 (Talk-Contribs.-Links) Konohagakure_Symbol.svg 10:38, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Tenten fire-release
The only way how she isn't user of it is if someone else created the dragon and sealed it into the scroll, with her only unsealing it--Elveonora (talk) 11:40, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Adding fire release
Can we add fire release to this technique since it obviously involves unsealing of some users fire release technique. Since we don't know who's technique it is, fire release wouldn't be added to Tenten's chakra natures if anyone's worrying about that. --Bio havik (talk) 23:57, April 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with @Bio here. It is clearly a jutsu and the dragon is clearly made out of fire. It just means that someone else made the dragon and Tenten sealed it away for later use. It's still a fire release technique. Munchvtec (talk) 12:43, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just because it uses fire, or is shaped like a dragon, does not necessary mean it's Fire Release. Leaf Dragon God creates a vortex dragon, but it's not Wind Release. Several other techniques, some of them including Explosive Tags, create explosions (fire) but are not listed as Fire Release Ninjutsu; Paper Person of God Technique being a good example. Also, taking natures into account, we should avoid putting natures in Tenten's abilities; We've seen her seal lightning and water before, this here is no exception. Just because it's shaped differently shouldn't instantly mean it contains a nature.--Omojuze (talk) 12:44, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * um...he did say that it would only be added to the technique page. Not hers. It's made out of freakin fire lol. Please, if you have an explanation for what this dragon is then please tell me. If not then it's clear that it's a fire release of sorts. Munchvtec (talk) 12:47, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Explosive tags' explosions won't come in any shape. That aside, weird taijutsu chakra vortexes are something else, this is clearly fire shaped in a certain way using FIRE RELEASE. Don't know why this even has to be discussed... A Wkia contributor (talk) 12:48, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^^ Neither do i. Munchvtec (talk) 12:49, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * @Munchvtec: And? So it's made out of fire? an example of what makes fire. Is it Fire Release? No... Because something else, not the user, produces fire. @Wkia: They don't but they produce fire. How is taijutsu something else, when it clearly uses wind but it's not wind release (Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm as well) You're just cherry picking now. Nature transformation involves molding one's chakra, nothing is being molded here... For all we know, she could've just taken bonfire flames and sealed them, and when she used this, they came through in the shape of the dragon, as the name of the technique implies.--Omojuze (talk) 12:52, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's like saying: Oh, I pour some water in a water gun and blast you with it. It's my Water Release Ninjutsu >.> Freakin' Rasengan uses Shape Transformation. Does it have a nature - Nope.--Omojuze (talk) 12:54, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice to see people agreeing with me :D --Bio havik (talk) 13:08, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't the wind from those taijutsu moves caused bu the speed/rapid movements? This fire is caused by nothing. So she sealed fire and it came out as a dragon cause it isn't ninjutsu?lol Munchvtec (talk) 13:10, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Video games don't count, so that argument is nil. The example with the water gun would make sense, but it's fire we're talking about, not water. You don't lit a bonfire and put it into an oven and it takes the form of a dragon's head. The taijutsu indeed manipulates wind, but that comes from the motion of the taijutsu's movment/chakra output. The same way, you could move water and earth without creating it. However, fire and lightning is impossible to use that way. @Bio of course, as your version is the one and only true version. A Wkia contributor (talk) 13:11, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * And they don't count because...? Because you don't count them? >.> And same would be the case on putting a sheet of paper on an ocean floor; or would the entire sea just seep into the paper? :D And? It comes from movement? So? There are no sources that can produce wind (they haven't shown air conditioning in Naruto, have they?), unlike fire (matches being an example). Lightning can also be produced via static electricity, but rubbing on wool, etc - not as strong, but chakra should be able to amplify it. Stating that it's fire release just because of shape alone is not a valid reason; Shape Transformation does not define a technique having a nature, especially in Tenten's case.--Omojuze (talk) 13:18, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * They don't count because they are not canon and never will. Most wind release techniques produce wind, this for example. You know, if Tenten would just summon a stream or one single blast of fire, I would understand your aguments. However, I can't agree to the thought that fire generated by matches and so on come out in the form of a giant dragon. There has to be something to shape it into that form, and the one thing we know about doing it is Fire Release. It's basic maths. A Wkia contributor (talk) 13:27, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Guess what, this technique right here, is also not canon. Yes, Wind Release techniques produce wind, but everyday objects do not (at least during Part I, we haven't seen any wind-producing objects being shown). Matches exist in the Naruto World, so they can produce fire without using chakra. Chakra amplifies the flames by applying shape transformation, NOT nature transformation. It would be an entirely different scenario if Tenten's chakra would actually produce the flames, like with this, but it doesn't.--Omojuze (talk) 13:30, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks and acts like a fire release technique to me. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 13:41, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Quote: "[Fire Release] is performed by moulding superheated chakra inside the stomach before releasing it via the lungs and mouth. There are also variants to this in the form of some mediums such as the use of gun powder, ash, explosive tags and chakra flow into a weapon". Sealing an existing flame and using shape transformation to change its form does not make it a Fire Release technique, not as far as we're aware, unless you can give some examples that I'm forgetting.--Omojuze (talk) 13:51, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone else could have simply used this dragon fire technique and she sealed it away for later use. Munchvtec (talk) 13:52, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * I remember a discussion whether this should be treated as "Water Release", and the argument that I think was the best one is that we've actually seen the sphere being "formed" using water. Did you see the dragon being formed using fire? No. Hence, speculation. @Munchvtec - the key words are "could have". If that were the case, wouldn't the name be the same? --Omojuze (talk) 13:53, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Good thing this isn't an official naruto website and we can chose to speculate on things. The majority says its fire release and its not that hard to believe. --Bio havik (talk) 13:58, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

I haven't heard an actual logical response from anyone as of yet, only that it uses Shape Transformation, which does not involve a nature whatsoever. And the wiki is not being run by democracy; Whoever has the most logical and well thought-out solution, wins, so to say...--Omojuze (talk) 13:59, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Regardless. It's made of fire, is a dragon, and has shape transformation.Munchvtec (talk) 14:01, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Precisely. Rasengan has shape transformation, does it have a nature? Nope. Shape makes a dragon, pre-existing flames make the fire. End of story, go to bed children ;p--Omojuze (talk) 14:02, September 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Rasengan is naturally in the form of a ball. Is fire naturally in the form of a god damn dragon? Munchvtec (talk) 14:04, September 29, 2015 (UTC)