Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25531508-20140923043228/@comment-25077020-20140924015103

AsianReaper wrote: Hashirama wasn't in the team, I'm saying that Hiruzen was stronger than Tobirama. Madara said that in life, Tobirama was equal to himself (Madara) in strength. Chapter 661.

I just re-read that chapter and sorry to say but nowhere does it say that madara and tobirama were equal in strength.

Edo Tensei shouldn't matter, they were all Edo Tensei, so the gulf in skills remained the same. And considering How much older Hiruzen was compared to the rest, that gulf wasn't too wide.

That's your opinion. Hiruzen showed nothing of note other than his counter against guruguru, a weaker version hashirama.

Orochimaru was defeated. Hiruzen took his ninjutsu away. For a guy who wanted all ninjutsu for himself, Orochimaru was down for the count. And this was after fighting two Hokage.

No he wasn't. The last time I checked he had the upper hand from start till finish. The fight ended in a stalemate b/c that was the only way hiruzen could stop, NOT defeat orochimaru.

And I'm sure it was stated he could utilize every technique. Anyone can memorize theories, but I think the fact that he could use them all is what set Hiruzen apart. And before you come at me with the old Kakashi rebuttal on "why doesn't he use more ninjutsu then?" He only used techniques that suited his fighting style. Like Kakashi being able to use shadow clones, but not using it in battle because he had average chakra reserves.

It was said he knew every jutsu in konoha. That doesn't necessarily equate to him actually being able to use all of them. However, if you believe the latter then that's fine as well. I don't really have a problem with it. I just believe it's highly unlikely. But as I said before being able to use them and actually being good at using them are 2 different things let alone being the best at them.