Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-33485854-20180907053322

@LegionZero Call it wrong all you want but the manga showed this too. (Ch 690)

1. These are all different ways to achieve Sagehood. The process by which Juugo becomes a Sage is different than the process Naruto uses to become a Sage and they have different properties to their abilities. Even Snake Sages and Toad Sages have different abilities even though they are both Sages.

2. Except its not. Hagoromo and Hamura inherited 6 Paths Chakra and learned SP Senjutsu

3. It is senjutsu. It needs Nature energy. Whether he gathers it or not is irrelevent because the manga showed and told us Kurama can gather it for him.

4. Because he never learned how to do it. Even Obito didnt have it either and he stole Sage chakra straight from Juubidara. But Hagoromo had it after extracting the Juubi.

5. It tells Hamura and Hagoromo had before defeating Kaguya. Just because it is unexplained does not mean it is wrong.

1) I'm assuming you're referring to these pair of panels. [] And no, it doesn't. There are no Truth Seeker Orbs about them and they only hold black monk staves. Even in another instances they don't have them. [] [] This[] would act as stronger evidence in your favor, though even this doesn't fully support in the idea he had it prior to becoming the Ten-Tail's Jinchuriki. Kaguya, through Black Zetsu or even her Chakra itself, is privy to information post her sealing, such as when she recognized Ashura and Indra's Chakra within Naruto and Sasuke[].

1.5) The Origin is all the same. Juugo's Clan unique bodies naturally absorbs Nature energy and the special fluids within their body reacts to the presence of Sage Chakra. And those are Techniques. The Toad's Toad Sage Fist and Snake's Inorganic Animation, are techniques taught by the respective Sage animals. It is not suggested that if one were to learn from both animals they would be unable to utilize the later's technique.

2. [Edit: This was under the assumption you wrote "Six Paths Sage Chakra"] Then why didn't Madara gain it when he recreated Hagorormo's Chakra within himself[]? Or Sasuke when he did the same?

3) The Ten-Tails is Nature incarnate[]. Having It's Chakra is manipulating Sage Chakra itself.

4) Oh, he learned how to control it[].

5) There is no possible way they learned it before. There isn't a way. If there was Obito and Madara wouldn't go after the Tailed Beasts. That line of thinking also brings the question how did they learn it? Kaguya? She was too busy being crazy. Gamamaru? Filler and how would they he know how to use Six Paths Sage Jutsu? Self-Taught? Possible but highly unlikely, cause as I said, the only method of obtaining this power is through the Tailed Beasts.

@CombatQmatters Toad sages tell you to do it one way, and when you balance your nature energy perfectly and then mix it with your other energies the toad way, it causes a mutation in the cells around your eye, causing them to release a protein that gives that pigmentation. snake snages tell you another way to balance it and have it interact. Same thing for hashi's sage mode, with the method he uses to create his senjutsu chakra, it creates black pigment around his face. For Juugo, his body genetically is coded to take in nature energy passively. when his Senjutsu Chakra is created, it creates a strong reaction, making his brain chemistry go out of whack and significantly mutating his body.

The method of taking in Natural Energy is all the same. If anything, it's the summoning contract that effects the summoner on the physical sense.

Many techniques leave their marks on the body. Sage Mode and the Curse Mark yeah, but others like the Yin Seal does also. Their just physical manifestations of techniques.