Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-27823212-20160721063427

UltimaDude wrote: The problem is here is that you deliberately ignore what really happens(aka, context) in your so called evidence. Your superiority complex isn't wanted It's exactly what happened, which is exactly what context is. You claimed that Naruto wasn't able to blitz Shin, despite the fact that he didn't even move a muscle because he wasn't taking the situation seriously Naruto stating that he wanted to capture Shin and that he couldn't go easy on him is not taking the situation seriously?

The purpose of a flash bang is completely irrelevant You're only going of the sizes of the explosion, which, like I said, doesn't always determine the power. The purpose is completely relevant. A flashbang releases light & sound. Nothing else.

I asked you how you're analogy applies to this situation with evidence to why it does. You once again, can't explain how it does, so this is a concession.

A shame that facts from the manga say otherwise The manga shows Shin easily grabbing his blade in cqc and Madara dodging him while blind.

If Sasuke didn't get a power and speed boost, then tell me how he was able to catch up to a TTJ-Madara, able to stand after getting his chakra absorbed by Kaguya for a while, and able to travel to Kaguya's dimensions(though this was when he became an adult) Why would any of this necessitate that he got a power and speed boost? This just sounds like an assumption on your part and it isn't stated or implied anywhere that Sasuke was "boosted".

Being complimented for the same thing by the same person would make the praised roughly on par with each other in said thing, unless it's specified who's superior. Madara has a standard for what he would consider fast and if Sasuke and Guy are within that standard that it can be assumed that they are somewhat on par. This makes absolutely zero sense. You're literally making up your own criteria. If 2 characters are called strong, that does not even slightly imply that those 2 characters would be on the same level of strength.

Ameno is teleportation. Any form of teleportation easily exceeds any form of speed(unless you're the Flash). Sasuke only used Ameno while, fighting Kinshiki, once. That was when they fought on Kaguya's snowy dimension. He never used Ameno on Kinsiki again He used Amenotejikara to escape from the rock he was trapped. He then tried to decapitate Kinshiki while he was behind him, but missed.

Meanwhile Kurotsuchi's surprise attack can hit him without any problems.

Yeah, against a clearly weaker Sasuke.

Irrelevant since the Rinnegan doesn't boost stats.

' And apparently I'm the illiterate one Tobirama tagged Juubito after he was blitz. Hiruzen still got his torso exploded before he was able to do anything Yes, you are absolutely illiterate.

You're claiming that Tobirama somehow tagged Obito when he didn't have a hand to tag him with instead of going with the obvious conclusion, which is that Tobirama tagged him before his body was ripped apart.

Hiruzen mostly dodged Obito's rush, then Obito grabbed him in order to land the clean hit with his truthseekers. Obito did not once blitz any Hokage.

Sasuke clearly didn't go at Shin at full speed? Do you know how to read? There's no reason to believe that Sasuke would be using full speed, when he doesn't need to There's no reason to believe that Sasuke would try to take down his opponent as fast as possible in a situation where he is completely serious?

This has to be a joke, because nobody can genuinely be this retarded.

Using chakra arms is not the same as moving. Same with Sasuke, there's no reason for Naruto to be going at the Shins with full speed

This has got to be the dumbest thing that any Naruto & Sasuke fanboy has ever said. There is literally nothing implying that they moved slower than usual, especially against a target that they wanted to capture and couldn't go easy on by their own admission.

Ok and? Would you actually try to prove your ridiculous claims? Shinsuusenju didn't tank the VOTE's explosion. All it did was throw a thousand punches which all of them were destroyed by Madara's Evil Disturbance Waltz spam. TBB Rasenshuriken doesn't need to explode in order to destroy Shinsuusenju, just like how Madara's didn't. With its multiple variant, it easily shreds it apart The panels show an explosion and the body of the statue is shown completely unharmed.

Madara fired off countless Bijudama with Susano'o blades, yet Naruto's weaker barrage of only 6 Bijudama Rasenshuriken can replicate the same result?

It took dozens of high velocity spinning Perfect Susano'o blades just to cut some of the arms. The entire armament itself was taken out by the recoil of Chojo Kebetsu.

@AsianReaper Can you give this guy another forum warning? You need to be straight up banned. Your logic of Naruto & Sasuke intentionally moving at a slow pace for no reason whatsoever, which wouldn't make sense in any situation regardless of them holding back is the most autistic garbage that I have ever read.