Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-38812954-20191010013440/@comment-43776375-20191011163824

Princeharris1993 wrote: As powerful as Madara is, he won't need Izanagi and Izanami. Itachi might though, though I doubt they'd work or give him the opportunity he needs to shift the battle in his favor. If Sasuke could break Itachi's Genjutsu, absolutely no doubt Madara can. GG If Itachi goes for Izanami, shouldn't Madara do the same? Or Itachi gets crushed by full susanoo rigth from the start?

Vladosaurus wrote: One has EMS and one has MS. This battle isn’t debatable. They are in different leagues.

Well Itachi has 2 Ms abilityes, yata mirror and totsuka blade, to me seems more fair like this, even tho Madara full susanoo stomps

Halcyonite wrote: I'd say Itachi is superior to Madara in terms of his usage of genjutsu, but Madara wouldn't be that far behind him. He's used genjutsu on plenty of occasions, such as against a fodder ninja about to axe him when he was fighting the Alliance, or when he used it on Ay whilst fighting the 5 Kage.

Madara would be able to break out of it after a couple seconds without too much trouble. It's just Itachi's choice whether he would want to expend so much chakra on a technique that might not even faze Madara. And even if Itachi chooses to, I am 95% sure that any physical torture used against Madara would not have as great of an effect as it did against kakashi.

On the working of tsukuyomi I'd not be too sure people can get out of it, if it's commoly acepted that Madara can breack trough I'm not gonna complain, it's just that an illusion that takes place in fraction of second shouldn't be breakable because a person has a set reaction time, and the reaction time works to think "oh I got chaugth" then you need to dispel it, not that is should take too long for Madara but, again, -fraction of seconds-