User talk:Prazzee2

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Deletion of "Pain Vs Sage Naruto (the TRUTH"
just so you know, your page was deleted because its contents are inappropriate for this wiki. It was loaded with opinions and inaccuracies, while this wiki tries to be as accurate as possible, citing only facts. Your opinion piece would be better off on a forum or some place like that.

Also, saying things like "the administrators are such fags..." can lead to you being banned. Not to mention the fact that it is quite hard for me, the one who actually deleted your page, to be insulted by the word fag. I am one and quite happy with it. --ShounenSuki (talk 13:46, January 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * but it is not "inaccurate" its the truth!


 * 5 of the pains basically had no chakra in it and naruto was fighting them one-on-one!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 * The word truth has been so abused in the Naruto community that it has lost all meaning and significance... Let us take a look at your article, okay?


 * First of all The 6 Paths of pain together are invincible and it is extremely hard to beat them.
 * Something cannot be both invincible and hard to beat. It's a logical contradiction. Also, no-one is truly invincible, although Pain is obviously hard to beat.
 * Although Jiraiya defeated 3 bodies with the help of ma and pa he still couldn't defeat all the bodies.
 * Because Pain managed to use the element of surprise. Pain himself claimed Jiraiya might have been able to defeat him, had Jiraiya known his secret: that there are six bodies of Pain and that Nagato is controlling them from a distance.
 * This fight was very biased towards Naruto as he cannot really beat Pain.
 * saying Naruto cannot really defeat Pain is your opinion, not fact. Saying the fight was biased towards Naruto is odd. Naruto is capable of losing, even as a main character. However, the circumstances were in Naruto's favour, that much is true.
 * Also the writers change the ay p
 * What?


 * Naruto is much weaker than jiraiya seems to have "beaten" all the bodies of pain.
 * Naruto has both the Nine-Tails and a perfected Sage Mode. In strength, at least, he seems to have surpassed Jiraiya.
 * The main reason for this is that he is the main character and cannot lose as it will end the manga.
 * Naruto can easily lose, it wouldn't end the manga. It would merely alter the storyline.
 * Another reason for this is because 5 of the 6 bodies of pain had much less chakra than usual and most of it went to the Deva path.
 * Yes, the circumstances were in Naruto's favour. Still, the bodies of Pain seemed in no way affected by any lack of chakra.


 * Furthermore, even jiraiya stated that the Pain's work best when doing combo attacks and Naruto had only defeated each body while fighting them one-on-one so defeating 5 of the bodies wouldn't really be hard work.
 * That's called strategy.


 * However for naruto to beat the Deva path by himself does show he is very powerful even though he had help from the kyuubi.
 * Funny you mention this... Naruto lost to Deva Path. If it hadn't been for Hinata, Naruto would be dead by now. Only Hinata's sacrifice allowed the Nine-Tails to take over, which allowed Naruto to break free and eventually defeat Deva Realm.
 * More evidence of this fight being "unfair" and "unlikely" is that every time naruto gets pinned down something happens biased towards him that he escapes.
 * Unfair? Perhaps. Unlikely? Not really, considering the circumstances. Naruto had help twice in this fight: The first time, Hinata came to his rescue, which wasn't unlikely as Naruto and Pain were surrounded by Konoha shinobi. Someone coming to Naruto's rescue was to be expected. The second time, the Fourth Hokage came to Naruto's rescue. This was unexpected, but not unlikely. It was already established that the Fourth did all he could to prevent the Nine-Tails from breaking free again.


 * As a conclusion i think it would be fair to say if pain was fighting how he fought against jiraiya, it would be unlikely that naruto will win the fight.
 * If Pain fought as he did against Jiraiya, he would have likely lost even before Naruto arrived. Pain's strategy against Jiraiya was the element of surprise: not showing there were more bodies and even after that revelation, not showing how many there were at once. Konoha not only already had this knowledge, ruining the element of surprise, but attacking with only one body would likely have made it very easy for Konoha to defeat Pain. Imagine the combined forces of Konoha fighting one person. Even Tsunade would have fought, sine she wouldn't have needed to do wide-spread healing.


 * Naruto defeated the first five bodies of Pain fair and square. He used all his skill, his knowledge of Pain's abilities, and his unexpectedness and it paid off. He only managed to defeat Deva Path with some help, but it wasn't any surprise he would get help. He was surrounded by allies. After his help, he did manage to defeat Deva Realm with his own skills and later convert Nagato with his own words. The fight went as could be expected, taking into account all information we have. --ShounenSuki (talk 18:33, January 7, 2010 (UTC)