Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25498052-20141004162612/@comment-25272406-20141110233943

@ Ashzure

I don't know if Madara surpassed Hagoromo. He definitely has more Chakra than Madara or Hashirama. And he also was the TT Jinchuriki at one point.

But Naruto and Sasuke also defeated Obito as the TT Jinchuuriki and he was also by far stronger than both of them. He was stronger/faster and had more chakra than Tobirama, Minato, Hashirama... Sasuke and Naruto.