Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-9782468-20200430180329

@Legion, Sarada... has a three tomoe Sharingan? When did the manga or anime touch on that?

What do you mean it was first revealed he had their chakra in a novel? Hagoromo stated he'd continue to be their meeting place, that's not a reveal.

Purple Lightning is a good one, conceded there.

Yeah but Hozuki castle also has a different warden than in the novel, doesn't it?

Yes it is true, there's a lot of the movie that is no longer canon and therefore it's untrue information in the timeline.

To tell a story within Naruto, they give you where it is in the timeline. It's uh, not that hard to grasp. Even if it's standalone, putting it in a timeline just give context.

I don't remember the chapter, but @Jason probably does, he brought it up. I think it had something to do with keeping out of the Leaf, and Madara asked what if he just didn't or something like that.

I'm literally not discarding anything, I just don't think it's as relevant as you do. Itachi wanted Sasuke to live a happy life too lol. But instead of letting Sasuke develop normally (and he'd probably want revenge anyways), he goes "nope, you don't have enough hate in you." Itachi, with all his skill, could have literally just held back his full power in their final fight (like he was already doing), to let Sasuke kill him, without the need for making Sasuke so desperate for it that he literally defects from his village.

Uh because he was already noted to have gone through these developments. Pacifist who already had the reasoning on par with a Hokage. And these developments just means he would struggle through doing the tasks he knew he had to. Not possibly fail his mission due to just chucking a chunk of chakra away.

Yeah, cus ya know, Sasuke was his student and a lot like Kakashi himself, so he gave it a shot. Zabuza he only went after because of the mission. Once Zabuza stopped interfering with the mission, Kakashi let him do whatever. Kakashi had no ability to try to spare Pain lol, Pain was thrashing him and he was fighting for his life. But in any case this was an invasion of his village so yeah. Kakuzu the S-class criminal bounty hunter intent on killing those around him? Why would he try to spare him?

Yep, that's Jiraiya's character. Soft spot for Orochimaru. Same for Hiruzen. Also in any case, didn't Jiraiya lose against Orochimaru? how is that considered letting his feelings get in the way?

What are these alternatives exactly? Madara kept waging war. Hashirama didn't have contradictory behaviour, his motivation was uniting clans into villages to foster peace. He dearly wanted Madara to be a prt of it, but when Madara kept threatening his dream, he killed him.

Actually he killed a bunch of them on his way to kill Gato, who betrayed him. But he made a beeline to Gato.

I'm not discrading anything again, I'm simply saying it's not as relevant as you think it is, seeing as Itachi. And Itachi at that point was already pretty numb, he was already brutally beating Uchiha police at that point lol.

I mean you can cherry-pick that sentence and not include the one where I talk about why Nagato was swayed by Naruto, but that's fine.

Uh Tsukuyomi uses a lot of chakra. Itachi can use his MS 3 times before needing to rest his eyes. And you're saying he'd take the risk of using a more taxing version on his first victim? And I'm sorry, wasn't there many slaughtered people in the streets? They don't sleep in the streets lol, that means some of the Uchiha were awake and fought. Also how do you know he only cast one other jutsu?

I never said it would be casual, I think he'd be torn up about it too. Like with his parents.

In battle Itachi is cold. He casually murders Anbu of other villages when they're already knocked out, and this is when he was 11 I think, maybe younger.

What I'm saying is that his love for someone does not impede his ability to hurt them usually. Sasuke being the easiest example. He's torn up about it, shown by his tears, but he can hurt the person he loves the most and he can hurt him more than almost anyone to accomplish his goal.

Ok? Then you believing it's in character for Itachi doesn't matter? idk where you're going lol. "Oh but it actually happened." Yeah but also it didn't, in the anime lol.

That's an arbitrary definition of contradiction, I thought contradictions were when two things were in opposition. One event shows him killing her with Tsukuyomi, another shows Obito doing it.

I mean considering Itachi made Kakashi feel 72 hours of torture then also said it was dangerous for him to use his eye like that, kinda seems like even 72 hours is a lot of chakra to use up.so going from 3 days to 80 years or so kinda makes me scratch my head lol

EDIT: Also @everyone this thread is pretty long, I'll close it up in a day or two. So if anyone has one more argument to put in, now's the chance. This will be my last post, since I shouldn't make the last argument post then close it right after haha