Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20180917051828

1) Firstly, you haven't debunked anything. You haven't shown me one feat of Itachi jumping from a similar attack. Secondly. He didn't jump the first time, he won't the second. He didn't have too? Sorry not credible seeing as that's only based off your opinion. Has Itachi ever even jumped while in Susanoo? The reason I haven't answered your question of friendly fire is because I don't need too. Why would Orochimaru be near Itachi? And why would Konan die from an attack like that? She's an edo who has Shikigami. Enough said.

2) I can say the same as you, your claim is false. The difference between the two is my claim comes from the Manga. We seen Konan actually go all out against one person. And in that instance she did something no one could do alone. She forced Obito to use Izanagi. If the situation was reversed, Itachi wouldn't have even took a finger from Obito even with Prep time. Enough said.

3) Don't even need to address this since you made it up. Shown in the anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8zdqr9-_Qc and in the Manga Chapter 551. Susanoo was covered in smoke as Nagato was struck. Can't react to what you can't see.

4) Now my statements are stupid? Yikes. I can understand when fans don't want their character to lose, but going as low to insult another is just distasteful. Relax, it's just a debate. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Moving forward. Just because you chose one feat as the best feat doesn't mean anything. Majority accept that Amaterasu is slow. The wiki even states it. Using part 1 isn't viable no more. Everything from part 2 debunks anything from Part 1. Therefore until Kishimoto himself shows otherwise, then it ain't true. Amaterasu couldn't burn through Gaara's sand. Ay's arm. Samurai's armor. Karin's cloak. Don't get me wrong, it has shown some impressive feats at times. But majority has shown it burns slow. Even against the toad, it burned so slow, Jiraiya and Naruto were able to examine it without hindrance and it barely spread if at all. It's a very hot technique sure, but spreading wise it just burns far too slow to do any real damage. Amaterasu is not effective against Konan if it can't consume her faster than she can turn into paper, and that isn't the case.

5) It was shown when he coward before him lol and said it himself in Chapter 70 lol. "Compete with him? Am I an idiot?". According to Kakashi, anyone who thinks Kakashi can compete with him is an idiot. So, yeah. Orochimaru outclasses him.