Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170125144949/@comment-27924662-20170501070643

XShadyShadow wrote: @NarutoNamikaze9 It's not about me hyping anything, I'm literally telling you the truth and facts. All mentioned jutsu are planetary, if not damn near period. If anything you're trying to down-play the Rinne Sharingan to appeal to a point that you've already failed to make, you know what your saying isn't true so now you're resorting to downplaying established feats. Are you serious? The desert Ameno could've easily solo'd Naruto and Sasuke (Oh lookie, a Rinnegan wielder.) if they didn't have plot armor and Obito there to save them. On two seperate occasions actually when she tossed Sasuke in another Ameno location. No Rinnegan path can save you from that. Rinne Sharingan > All dojutsu. It's powers are stronger than any other dojutsu, you clearly don't know how scaling works. Just because you have immunity or resistance to something doesn't degrade it's potency, the Rinne Sharingan has shown far more devastating feats than the Rinnegan. One including Ameno that can one-shot a Rinnegan user. You're downplaying and it's irritating, stop it. You are comparing newly awakened Rinnegan to Rinne-Sharingan? You say that Naruto and sasuke were saved by obito yet you refuse to admit the fact that a rinnegan holder too can open dimensions. That's how sasuke got into momoshiki's dimension to save naruto. Kaguya's Dimension teleportation would have been easily nullified with that ability of sasuke's rinnegan. Can Rinne Sharingan save you from Human path? OR the Pretha Path? Or even Deva Path? No it can't. Even if Kaguya managed to surprise sasuke with teleportation and had grabbed him he could have easily used Deva path to escape her clutches. but it didn't happen because sasuke was new to the rinnegan so stop quoting feats from Kaguya Vs Team-7 XShadyShadow wrote: 1) It's not devastating lol, you're overrating shadow clones. As I've said before shadow clones only gain a portion of the users overall chakra/strength while Limbo retains all stats. One Madara limbo clone pre-Juubi amped knocked all tailed beasts away with one hit on each Tailed beast. I am not over rating anything. The Shadow clones survived indra's arrow in the VOTE-2 fight. You can check out the fight in anime. XShadyShadow wrote: 2) Doubt it. You're actually putting yourself in a corner, if you're saying Naruto clones > Limbo then are you saying that Naruto can beat Juubidara in terms of taijutsu? There was no ninjutsu involved. You're off somewhere and you know it. It's pretty clear Madara's limbo clones defeated Naruto's considering Madara used them again to surround team 7. Especially since Naruto didn't use clones again as a response, so if Madara used them against Naruto again and the whole team 7, Limbo clones had zero damage after tussling with Naruto's clones and Naruto didn't bother with using clones against them again, what does that tell you? Why would Madara bother with Limbo if it proved ineffective? Clearly the Limbo clones > Naruto's shadow clones. But you're gonna look for something inaccurate to make a false point. You do it everytime, face facts and learn to infer. Just because the manga doesn't flat out say something doesn't mean it isn't so if manga feats make it more than obvious. I beg to differ especially when Naruto had sealed quite a few of them and was involved with others in fighting them in taijutsu. And yes I mean that naruto could actually beat jubidaara in terms of taijutsu but his OP healing is gonna be a significant factor in such confrontation. The reason why naruto didn't use shadow clones ,Well for starters Madara didn't get second chance to use limbo since he was backstabbed by BZ and before he was backstabbed he was talking to team-7. XShadyShadow wrote: 3) Running away? Dual Rinnegan Juubidara ran away from Naruto and Sasuke? LOL. He casually made a CT that was leagues better than Nagato's and it took both Naruto and Sasuke to take out those CT while Madara called them raindrops. Yeah he was "running away." Sasuke even noted that they wouldn't stop coming. It's more than obvious he flew upwards to actually complete what he set out to do (IT.) and to attain the Rinne Sharingan. Especially considering he came back and said he was done toying with them. You can't debate this, they'd get wrecked. So before this scenario of rain drops What was madara doing? And What conclusion did he arrive at when he fought the two? And when Sasuke and Naruto tried to stop Madara He escaped by using Limbo which were matched by Shadow clones. When Madara realized that limbo couldn't buy him enough time he uses the CT which were also being destroyed by the duo but it was taking time. The time which madara needed to cast IT. XShadyShadow wrote: Are you serious right now? Hagoromo gained BOTH his Rinnegan and MS on his forehead just before fighting Kaguya because he essentially killed his brother but revived him with the tag the toad gave him. Do you pay attention at all? Either you have something against Madara or you're just heavily misinformed. You're the same person who thought EMS Madara didn't have PS. Lol. IT's really annoying when you keep claiming that I am heavily misinformed when you keep using non-canon stuff to prove your point. I don't have anything against madara. And that's funny that you would bring EMS madara here especially considering people agreed with me in the thread abt EMS madara. XShadyShadow wrote: @QuakingStar Base Hagoromo is better than base Madara, but once again in terms of chakra. Doubt it for actual skill and taijutsu. In terms of TTJ it's literally the same story, Hagoromo has the better chakra easily while it's literally the same for Madara in terms of dojutsu and taijutsu. You keep claiming this but you forget that Hagoromo was the one who fought Kaguya in base with his bro. That's leagues ahead of madara has done anything in his base.