User talk:Ursuul/Archive 1

Edit Dispute
Hello, I'm Sosuagwu17. I've had a problem regarding a recent edit I made to the Team 5 page that got reverted by an admin named Omnibender regarding the appearance of a different teammate to Metal Lee showing up in the Boruto manga the same way that Lee was shown with two 2 different teammates in the Boruto movie before they got changed to be Denki and Iwabee in the Boruto anime and novel. He insists that the Genin never showed up in the manga and he is too off focus to be properly shown when a panel from Boruto manga, chapter 3, page 13, clearly shows a different Genin from Denki or Iwabee standing right next to Lee and sporting the same outfit as Lee with a good portion of his body clearly shown in the panel indicating that this was Lee's original teammate before being switched to Denki and Iwabee for the anime and novel and even a similar scene in the Boruto movie shows Lee standing next to his two different genin teammates wearing the same outfit as him during the True or False Phase of the Chunin Exams from the Boruto Series. I tried contacting another admin in this community to help me out with the edit dispute with another admin I have a differing opinion with and give me his thoughts on the whole matter even bringing it up to the article's talkpage when he told me to do so but everytime I try to contact the admin for help to get his feedback, he just plainly ignores me and doesn't seem like he wants to help or bother with the situation at all when his duty is to help out a user with an edit dispute the best way he can if it at this point requires attention from admins since I tried asking other users on their opinion on the matter but some refuse to reply/or add their feedback to the matter on the Team 5 talkpage and one even said that they have no opinion on the issue I have at hand with thd other user. It's been days since I brought it to the talkpage and I haven't gotten a whole lot of responses. The Bureaucrat of this site doesn't seem like he's been active for months and I don't know how long/soon it will take for him to reply or whether he would reply at all if I send him this message about the edit problem so my only option was to go to a Wiki Manager for help and I want help from you to assess this situation regarding the dispute I have with another user over an edit I made so this case can be done as soon as possible since I've gone quite impatient for not getting any feedback from another admin and most users I asked to give their feedback on the matter. Sosuagwu17 (talk) 23:25, September 22, 2020 (UTC)

I never asked/told anybody to support my own view of things in the dispute nor was I forcing anybody to help me win an argument over an edit dispute, so I would really appreciate you not assuming that. I simply asked people to bring their own opinion on the matter to see whether any consensus can be formed to see if one side of the argument was acceptable or not while I bring my own evidence, reasoning and points in my side of the argument to give my own opinion on why the change should be necessary. And especially when there is two users that don't agree with something and can't form an agreement in the talkpage, it's always good to have a third party involved so that way we can get their input on the matter and see whether a change or reversion should be necessary in the edit dispute in which case if most of the other users who decide to enter the edit dispute agree with one side over the other and finalizes which was more acceptable then that forms a consensus between the two users involved in the dispute which is essentially important to end a dispute between two users when it comes to edit conflicts, that's why I was sending people messages to see if they were able to bring an opinion in on the matter which I see nothing wrong on doing and I have not seen any rules against someone doing this if a third party doesn't come in to input on the situation at the right time when needed. Anyways, the dispute with the Team 5 edit has been already taking care of as all in the talkpage agreed that the Genin did show up as stated in my point of view and changed it accordingly to how I was trying to revise the article so you don't need to worry about it any longer and thanks for helping and assessing the situation even though it is not particularly your job to do so when it comes to edit disputes in local wikia communities. Sosuagwu17 (talk) 21:12, October 1, 2020 (UTC)

Re: summary tags
I don't know what kind of fix was implemented, but it didn't affect the issue I mentioned at all. Take a look at Baryon Mode (chapter). You can see that there's a break in the text that coincides with the use of the summary tag. If I move the the summary end tag around and preview the edit, the same paragraph break continues to happen. There are other issues that were caused by the migration, some have been fixed, some have not. I'm currently checking around to see which specific functionalities that got borked so I can make a condensed report instead of several ones. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Do I add that to MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Wikia.css? Some of the issues I was going to report got fixed by Snapper2, who actually understands how some of the template code works. Issues I've noticed that still need fixing:
 * References are getting pushed way down. For example, see Earth Release: Tearing Earth Turning Palm. Instead of the references being listed right after the section heading, they're being pushed way down below the end of the infobox. I also edit over at the Avatar FANDOM, and I know they had that issue as well, I reported to it to Lady Lostris over there, don't know if their solution applies here.
 * Debut chapter, volume and episodes are showing up wrong in character articles. For example, Boruto Uzumaki. In the debut section of the character infobox, the manga and anime debuts link to the correct chapter and volume for manga, and episode for anime, but they're not being styled as they were before. Manga debut was listed as "Series Volume Number", "Series Chapter Number". Anime debut was listed as "Series Episode Number". In this example, it would be "Naruto Volume #72, Chapter #700" for manga, and "Boruto Episode #1" for anime. We do have some number display corrections for the chapters of Volume 73 due to how they were published, as chapter 700+n. You can see it at Sarada Uchiha (volume).
 * Volume covers are no longer loading at List of Volumes.
 * Certain article links aren't being italicised in infoboxes. For a number of articles, we consider them to be unnamed when we don't have an actual, proper/official name to them, in which case we use descriptive, placeholder names. To make clear this status for such articles, they're italicised in infoboxes. For example, unnamed jutsu Susanoo: Great Fireball Technique is supposed to appear italicised in infoboxes. It is properly done in its debut episode infobox The Final Battle (by the way, the way this episode is displayed in this jutsu infobox is how characted debuts are supposed to look, from two points above) and parent jutsu infoboxes Susanoo and Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique. It is not italicised in other infoboxes where it should, in jutsu sections this case in Mangekyō Sharingan, Sasuke Uchiha and Uchiha Clan. This also happens for unnamed characters (like Obito's Grandmother and tools (like Flak Jacket), with it looking right in some infoboxes and not others.
 * There's an issue with what I believe is referred as the MediaCleaner functionality of our templates. It deals with what should or shouldn't appear in an infobox depending on the different media involved (manga, anime, novel, game, movie). Snapper2 made some progress on that front. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:09, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've added your fix for the summary tag break issue, and the reference fix. I've purged the cache, I've null-edited, but nothing's changed, don't know if I implemented them wrong. I have zero coding know-how. Every volume listed under the Tankōbon section should have the linked articles' infobox image appearing in the cell that lists links to the chapters, aligned to the right, directly below the English release date. Whenever I load the page, the image of the first volume actually loads, but gets hidden when the page finishes loading. In the issue using the Susanoo: Great Fireball Technique example, in the infoboxes I mentioned the link is incorrect, because the link is appearing as "Susanoo: Great Fireball Technique" instead of "Susanoo: Great Fireball Technique". In the Mangekyō Sharingan, Sasuke Uchiha and Uchiha Clan articles, in the infobox section listing jutsu, the link isn't being shown in italics, which should be the case because the article has it tagged as unnamed. If you look at that articles and the other ones I gave as examples, you'll see it has a "unnamed [jutsu/character/tool] depending on the article. That should make the links to those articles show up italicised in other infoboxes. Right now, that isn't happening as it should. Also, not interested in Community Council. I'm sure there has to have been an update or new feature added to Fandom since I've joined, but I can't think of a single one. They've all been either social focused features which I abhor, or updates which always break something this fandom uses, requiring patches that don't always work. Ignore the first bit, it suddenly showed up after I made a couple other edits. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:38, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

UCP Updates
So, is all wikia code removed now and we are back to plain MW (except the skin I guess)?

In any case, do you know how to create modals now as our old  is breaking on our infoboxes right now? ~Ultimate Supreme  04:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hey, turns out the native smw popup works now. Great for us.
 * I think the changes you made to the upload script aren't working. Could you look into it if you have time? ~Ultimate Supreme  00:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, should have clarified. The form is visible but the information added through it doesn't get added to the image. eg. File:Leaf_Youthful_Lotus.png. See the section below yours on my tp for my info. Thanks! ~Ultimate Supreme  00:36, 28 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Great. Thanks! ~Ultimate Supreme  00:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Batch delete fix
Before the UCP migration, I had an imported script. I mostly use that when I have to delete multiple unused files, and rather rarely when a vandal goes in a nonsense article creation spree. The command is showing up twice in my toolbar, and it no longer works. I suppose something's changed on how it has to be imported. I tried updating it, but I'm still getting the same blank page error. I have enabled personal js under My Preferences. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Working again, but still showing up duplicated in "my tools" in the toolbar. Something else script related: when renaming files, there used to be a functionality of automatically updating articles where the renamed file was used. My understanding is that this was also an imported script, but one that was imported to the fandom. I know stuff moved around during the migration, but option no longer shows up. Did it get lost in updates, or is that no longer possible? I believe it's this, used here as a gadget. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Image Uploads - Naruto Wiki
Hey Ursuul! So UltimateSupreme referred me to you because you probably know the answer to this question. So I just wanted to get up to speed regarding images. So is the only way to upload images now through the basic form? If so then is the advanced form bugged/obsolete? Any information for would be really helpful for me down the line. Ventillate (talk) 14:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Um lemme do a quick test and I'll get back to you! Ventillate (talk) 18:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah it works! I tested it HERE with the advanced form. Thank you!Ventillate (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

The image uploads don't seem to be working properly at the moment. When uploading, I had to add the information in manually because I wasn't able to access the advanced nor basic forms. Ventillate (talk) 14:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah now it's up and running. Thanks! Ventillate (talk) 17:37, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Tabbed images in Jutsu
In jutsu articles with more than one image in the infobox, like Amenotejikara, there's this empty space to the left of the image subtitles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Preview feature
Something that I've noticed in all wikis, that I don't know how easy would be to fix, is that when using the preview feature to see how edits will look, the preview has an error on how much of the page it uses. In actual pages and articles, the right third area of content area is reserved for things like recent activities and popular pages. However, when previewing edits, that area is gets used for rendering content. Very frequently, this means that previewing an edit doesn't give a true image of how it will look. That extra area throws off estimations of if it's necessary to use templates to align images or force some white space in between paragraphs. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just so there's no confusion, this issue with the preview feature isn't something that popped up with the UCP migration. This has been the case ever since the right third of content area was first reserved for those community features. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not necessary that it appears, but it could be the case that it should. It's not that the right rail has to appear, but the space it takes up in articles has to be accounted for in previews so that they're accurate. It might be the simplest case to include them in previews. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Clans
Some update has broken the clans listing article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Top Nav
In the top nav under Articles, there should be a "Locations" but it's not showing up now. Is there a limit to the number of items? ~Ultimate Supreme  05:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Special:ListUsers
This special page appears to be broken. There are many usergroups that don't show up in the groups box, like sysop and rollback. Trying to see those groups when going through the "list of members" links from Special:ListGroupRights also doesn't work. The only ones present in the box that have actual users in them are bots and bureaucrats. Missing groups do get listed in the groups column when there's an user that belongs in them, but their absence from the top box means one can't filter to just them. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:45, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Image Slideshows
Hi Alex! Slideshows for images do not seem to be working across various pages. (F.e. Sasuke Uchiha's slideshow transition images don't automatically show up like they used to.). Was this intentional or is it a bug? Thanks! Ventillate (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Ah thanks for covering that up. I had a feeling it was either CSS or a jQuery plug-in that wasn't working properly. Ventillate (talk) 17:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser request
Weird situation just came up. User Raijin Flash just contacted me, wishing to be blocked, claiming to previously having been Vegetarble123, who was blocked earlier this month by TheUltimate3. Raijin Flash is claiming this was due to forum discussion stuff and raids or whatnot (though I don't see any discussion activity associated with that account), and was confused that the block seemed to have been lifted. The entire thing is weird, so I'm not sure if this is a 4d move to get someone else blocked, genuine regret, or what else. At the very least, I'd consider blocking the new account if it's the same user because that's technically sock-puppetry, but the whole thing is weird enough for me not to take it at face value, so I thought double checking was warranted. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * If there's no activity associated with the Fandom account itself, I believe this might have to do with stuff that happens in the Discord server, which I don't participate. You'd have to ask TheUltimate3, who issued the block. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Please then ip check https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/SoldierVegetarble as compared to Raijin Flash. As the former is a known alt of user vegetarble 123. Ninja Of War (talk) 16:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser Request 2
Another user has popped up on the discussions board, that has a similar style of language and thread creation as to a banned user. Furthermore, when asked about whether he was the said banned user in question, he gave a response that indicated he was the banned user. I feel there is enough evidence to warrant a check-user request. Please compare the accounts of   ColdbutCozy and banned user  Sy6up. Ninja Of War (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Re: Greetings from Fandom
I've always been available for RfA style sysop nominations and requests from the current sysops. We used to have a system for that, but it looks like another will need to be created. I like having input from a good portion of the community. I can handle the request to promote a bureaucrat if it's necessary. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Syntax highlighting
What happened to it? I no longer see it in any wiki when I edit with source mode. Did it have to be turned off due to bugs or something? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Check User Request 3
A user claiming to have many blocked accounts has appeared. It isn't clear if they are talking about this wiki or not, but they did mention a few blocked accounts, so I think it warrants a check user request. Please compare the user The protector of raccoons to banned user     Sage Tōshirō. Also, are only wiki managers allowed to perform check user requests? Ninja Of War (talk) 13:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Re: New blocking policy
In your opinion, are our policies discoverable enough? In the drop down menu up top, the very first option under "community" is a link to our policy category, and hovering over that shows a list of some but not all policy pages. It's my understanding that those policies being discoverable is an important part of this upcoming policy change. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:47, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Check User Request 4
A few days ago, a vocal user was banned for being underage. Another new user popped up on discussions not long after with similar language. I observed the new user over the course of a few days, and more and more of the new user's posts are similar to the banned user's language and posting habits. This increasing amount of similarity, plus some edited posts relating to the new user's identity, I think warrants a check-user request. Please compare the accounts of SAASKAy to banned user Frog wallet.

My apologies for all of the check-user requests as of late. Alt accounts seem to be prevalent on Discussions. Ninja Of War (talk) 17:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser Request 5
Once again have problems with alt accounts. Seems the ip ban doesn't work in some cases. A suspected alt of a user that was banned for repeated usage of foul language has appeared. I think there is enough evidence to warrant a check-user request. Please compare the accounts of The Legendary Symere Uchiha to banned user Chris Danger 2. Ninja Of War (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Understood. There has been a lot of bad behaviour and tension on Discussions as of late. Particularly the same users rehashing the same issues of the past. Some help would always be welcome yes, I'll speak Squinty about more active moderation of the discussion board. Ninja Of War (talk) 12:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser Request 6
Ban evasion remains a constant problem. Users seem to care little for the rules of the wiki. However, to be sure we still need to check if they are making alt accounts. Please compare the accounts of Symere Uchiha to banned user The Legendary Symere Uchiha. Ninja Of War (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello!
How are you doing?

Notifications
Is there an issue with notifications? I've noticed a while that some users I message never reply when I message them. I can only surmise they're either ignoring the messages, or that they have issues with receiving notifications of messages in their talk pages. I know I receive notifications when someone edits my talk page, and I did so even before I added my talk page to my watch list. One such user I even messaged in another wiki with message walls to see if this would trigger a notification, but nothing. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Talk page notifications not showing up in major sources of traffic and edits like the Fandom app seems like a major oversight that should be fixed. Assuming good faith is pointless if your reaching out in good faith is ignored, and ignorance should not be an excuse when you get told time and time again to produce sources. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser Request 7
Same old same old. Suspected abuse of multiple accounts, via similar language and style of posts. Please compare the accounts of Solo king tecuci to that of banned user Frog wallet. Ninja Of War (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Unlock page
Could you unlock MediaWiki:Oasis-upload-photos-title for sysop editing please?--~Ultimate Supreme  22:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * This should be fine:
 * "Do not upload here. Use Special:Upload instead."
 * Paste the full link if wikitext doesn't work there. --~Ultimate Supreme  00:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Remove everything else please because it just shows as raw html everywhere.--~Ultimate Supreme  05:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Yup--<span style="color:#0078ff; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #0054d3, -1px -1px 1px white, -2px -2px 6px #0093f4;">~Ultimate <span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme  05:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Check User 8
Since you've been performing them, there's something I'd like to clear up. User Toroi had been blocked after consistently creating very minute, low quality articles with no source provided whatsoever, to the point his blocking was requested at Narutopedia:Sysop Requests. Before his most recent block expired, user OriginalGamer200 showed up and began making the same type of edits, and curiously stopped making them as soon as the block on Toroi expired and the Toroi account resumed making edits. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * New block in place for Toroi, and what do you know OriginalGamer200 is suddenly active again. Has there been overlap since I last asked? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Tsunade bug
For some reason, Tsunade isn't showing up in places she should be. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:44, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Minor Topic - Profile Icon on Uploaded Images
Probably the least of your concerns compared to everything else on this Wiki haha, but I did notice that when clicking on images, the profile image icon next on the left of the user profile is often cut or not fully shown. Curious whether or not this was intended or may be bugged. <p style="font-family:avenir;">- Ventillate { About Me | Message | My Work } 22:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Recent changes options
Something seems to have messed up the recent changes options box. There are several instances of new lines being added when there would only be a space between words. Specifically, the issue I'm seeing is with the non-JavaScript interface. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)