Talk:Ice Release

Can someone tell me if they actually said "Hyouton" in the movie? I just heard they said "Setton" or "Snow Release" apparently, which would make more sense with this having no similarities to the effects of the kekkei genkai and usaully controlling snow due to the surrounding in the movie's setting. I don't want to watch the movie....--GoDai (talk) 10:11, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, did Renga actually use Ice Release????
 * I would feel better if only "Haku" was under this page. Haku created ice mirrors that served as "portals" for his (apparently-)space-time jutsu, while Yuki-nin actually froze targets, and Renga created lenses by condensing moisture. I think we should create a separate page for the Yukigakure Hyouton.--GoDai (talk) 10:11, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * His technique used ice, so it is deemed Ice Release, I don't think another page would be required, the section on this one explains well enough the difference between the manga Ice Release and others. And Haku didn't use space-time ninjutsu with his mirrors, he just moved between them faster than the normal eye can see. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:57, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

So did they say "Hyouton" in the original movie? Where did this "Setton" stuff come from then? Is it just a fan-made word to describe the difference?--GoDai (talk) 19:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% sure, but I think they did say Hyōton. I'd have to check the movie though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:16, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

If it isn't a space-time jutsu, how does he "jump into" a mirror and appear out of another one? Also, if the mirror he was in smashed, he could jump out of one of the fragments. What's the correct explanation? Optical illusion? --GoDai (talk) 07:14, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * He had high speed to move between mirrors, Sasuke was able to track Haku with the Sharigan when he jumped around. If you're talking about the mirror he made to go take Kakashi's Raikiki for Zabuza, I think that he just hid in the ice mirror and moved the ice mirror there, similar to the guy hidden in a puddle in the beginning of the series, also in the Land of Waves arc, and to Kakuzu's hidden in water technique in an anime only sequence. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:15, March 21, 2010 (UTC)