Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24347194-20150211225344/@comment-142748-20150408194815

GreatestSin wrote: no it isnt, if he masters kuramas power he will have a few minutes of KM and than die because kurama sucks his chakra away, and if he fight together with kurama than it is 2 vs 1... A Perfect Jinchuriki has all of the powers that their Biju has. A Perfect Jinchuriki also doesn't suffer that chakra drain. You're about the only person I've seen argue this. susanoo can be create faster than a lightning strike hits the ground, so... no, minato wont hit itachi so easily, you are <overstaminating his speed... Reacting or creating a defense to lightning is a really not a good feat in Naruto, any high or top tier can do the same. Minato is so fast he he dodged Lightning Straight AND out-sped Eight Gated Guy. I'm not overestimating Minato's speed, you're overselling Itachi's. And if there's no knowledge, if Itachi just tries to dodge a Kunai...he'll get a Rasengan to the back or his throat slashed without him being able to do ANYTHING.

Also think about this: Sage Mode Kabuto blitzed Itachi, Sasuke without the cursed seal equaled his movement speed, and Post-Timeskip Kakashi was able to keep up and get the drop of him. While Minato...guess who was the only one to actually hit him? A Juubi Jin. One of the strongest beings in the entire Narutoverse. nope, everytime minato teleported something, it was a physical obejct, kurama was physical and the gudoudama too, it was never shown that thhey can teleport pure chakra away... Susano'o IS a physical object when manifested. Its just manifested chakra shaped into a warrior. He can teleport it just like Kurama or the Gudodama.

Not to mention that if Itachi is tagged? Minato can teleport INTO said Susano'o and bypass the defense entirely. ? only speed, we dont even know how strong they had been, and it doesnt really matter since both arent fighting like that, and: miinato may have been good with fuinjutsus, but this is it, aside from that he only showed rasengan and FTL, on the other hand itachi has a much larger amount of fire/water release jutsus with traps like explosion-clones etc. Minato was able to toss a kunai straight through a tree and nearly sever Gyuki's tentacle while in mid air by accident. He is stronger than Itachi by great amount. It doesn't matter if Itachi has Katons, Futons, or exploding bushins or crow bushins, his speed and reactions are just so low he can't even touch Minato in the first place. + where did naruto broke itachis genjutsu? he was hopelessly trapped until sakura/old woman took him out, and this despite his whole "anti-genjutsu training" and his impossible good chakra control, exspecially after mastering the rasengan in 1 week, this already shows that he had superior chakra control than minato and still wasnt able to free himself from a "non-sharingan-needed genjutsu" ^_^ I said nearly broke Utakata, and Itachi was impressed and had to strengthen it. Note, this Naruto hadn't even surpassed Kakashi yet but he was still able to pull up a defense. Yet this genjutsu is going to be of any use against Minato who can blitz Itachi without any problem, or has greater chakra control and intelligence than his son at the time (genjutsu's key weakness)?

Also think about this: Minato went eye to eye with Tobi Obito, who had achieved prowess of Madara. Yet...Obito ruled out any genjutsu (despite being Itachi's superior in the area considering he could control a Perfect Jinchuriki with genjutsu for years *Itachi's attempt was broken by Bee if you recall* and could genjutsu Kurama *something Itachi never even attempted even if it would have benefited or saved Naruto*), yet Obito's only course of action was to beat Minato in the contest of speed...which he lost. it seems like both of us do it in some ways :/ Itachi isn't as strong as a top tier like Minato. He explicitly puts himself on High Tier level with Jiraiya.