Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190315034807/@comment-9782468-20190429203353

Personally I think Jiraiya an give Bee quite a fight. Jiraiya is incredibly capable (and he starts in Sage Mode in this battle), and he posed a big threat to Pain. Pain was enough to almost beat Naruto, who was losing until he took out his 8th tail.

Do I think Jiraiya would win? I mean... if he ends it quick with sealing or otherwise, maybe. But in just a head on fight for the both of them, I think Bee overpowers him. Even with Jiraiya only trying to end it quick, Bee is fast, skilled, and powerful. I think bee lasts long enough to take the fight as serious as powwible, and then overpowers Jiraiya.

With Jiraiya's enhanced durability and strength, I think he stands a better chance against Ay. He has some good AoE attacks that can counter Ay's speed, as well as durability to tank some hits. They're styles are so different though, so it's hard for me to think of a case scenario where it doesn't seem biased in one's favor.

Jiraiya against Minato, well, Minato. Jiraiya freely admitted that Minato had surpassed him and that there wasn't another like him. Minato has the speed, power, and intelligence to take most people down.

The one here who I think could beat Minato is Bee. Minato can win if he goes striaght for the kill immediately, but if he doesn't it becomes more in Bee's favor. Bee has so much power behind him. Yeah, Minato can teleport Tailed Beast Balls away. I don't even doubt that he could do it several times. The issue is, Minato must only have a limited amount of secluded places where his Kunai are. Once he runs out of places to send them, what then? He could mark near or on Bee, but teleporting it back to Bee would catch him in the blast, which he would probably die. Bee vs Minato is close in my opinion. Minato could summon Gamabunta, who is aproximately Tailed Beast level, then he might win. But Bee has more versatility in his moves and forms, so idk.