Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20151221021631/@comment-9782468-20151221175412

@Ravenlot, that's true, sometimes I forget how many versions of Madara there are lol.

As for Tengai Shinsei, its jutsu page lists it as both a Rinnegan and a EMS technique. Just went back to its debut chapter though, and Madara indeed only used it with Rinnegan. Is it a mistake on the article's part?

Also, is there any real indication that Tengai Shinsei is actually a dojutsu? Chibaku Tensei is, but Tengai Shinsei? I only ask here because it's part of the discussion, but if you don't know I can ask on the article's talkpage.

Also, I agree that Itachi has a chance with MS Madara