Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31337598-20171224195954/@comment-2043993-20171226101101

Shikamaru would've spent too much time figuring out Orochimarus', Tobiramas' and Hashiramas' skills to have survived past his first breath, plus he'd be tired from his battle with Temari, so he couldn't be that great a threat or support to begin with.

Hiruzen would infact have lost more soundly if Shikamaru had been there, as he'd have had to spend time saving Shikamarus' 12 year-old buttocks from 3 kage level shinobi.