User talk:Shock Dragoon

Hello Shock Dragoon, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Naruto Uzumaki page.

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Dantman (talk) 02:26, March 19, 2009

Image deletion: PainandKonan.jpg
Shock Dragoon, the image PainandKonan.jpg which you uploaded has been deleted. We suggest you look over our image policy before you upload another image to make sure you aren't breaking any part of the policy. ShounenSuki (talk 10:52, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Telicons
No idea on how to make them, I think you just need to make the image (presumably as svg, not sure of that), and them apply it to the telicon template, but in itself the Hyuga icon isn't wrong, the symbol is seen on the Hyuga compound a couple times in Hyuga relevant moments, not sure of the episodes, you might want to ask the person who made the current icon, probably the same person who uploaded the image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hyuga Titleicon
I thought about using a Taijitu as the Hyūga's symbol, but I decided against it. I checked almost every instance of the manga and databooks that has Hyūga members, but the Taijitu is only shown in two settings. Once to show the contrast between Neji and Hinata and when the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms, since it is connected to the Eight Trigrams. It has never been used in any way that could be interpreted as symbolising the Hyūga clan. That's the same reason I decided against using the flame-like symbol on Hinata's part 1 jacket.

The symbol right now (calligraphy of the kanji for Hyūga) is straight from a sign that hangs above the Hyūga residence. It is the closest thing I could find to an actual family Mon. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * About the Rinnegan: It's quite difficult to figure our what colour to use. It usually ranges from grey to purplish-grey, but the latest volume covers have it being white. However, I do agree that the Rinnegan image as it is now could be improved. I'll see what I can do ^^
 * About Tailed Beasts/Jinchūriki title icons: It's quite easy to set up. Making the actual images would probably be the most time-consuming and difficult part. I could help you, of course, but I question the use of these icons. If I'm not mistaken, Dantman is planning on stopping the use of title icons once the new infoboxes are brought in use. Perhaps you should get his opinion on this. --ShounenSuki (talk 13:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

RE:My Edits
I reverted the edits because I have yet to see an spoken proof that talk about Hinata's bust size. Visual representation for this is relative. Provide proof of a character talking about this aspect of Hinata and I'll agree it belongs in her appearance description.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 17:54, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Understandable. I removed that comment from Hotaru's page. Which picture?  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 18:13, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ignoring my personal distaste. The only problem with that image is that the Wiki prefers RAW images but if that can't be provided remove any and all text from the image as translations change depending on who is translating/scanlating them. Read the Image policy for more information.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 18:35, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to know about admin things then it's best to ask Dantman as he's the Boss around here. A word of note though is that he usually doesn't give power to those who ask.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 19:14, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke EMS
Meh, it's simply the exact same design, only rotated 180°. —ShounenSuki (talk 15:29, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Immature brat?
You call me an immature brat, and I call myself deleting the unnecessary things and an anti-pervertism. When her 'curvaceous frame' is mentioned several times in the canon, gimme a call. --X29 02:53, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Give me a call when you can say "Breasts" without ".......breasts". End of line

--Shock Dragoon (talk) 03:11, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have my own morals, unlike some people. --X29 03:19, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re: X29
If that's your view on it, fair enough, but as much as I disagree with removing every reference to a characters physique for it's sexual connotation, I also don't believe we need to stress those sort of details. I just want people to get over this thing so we can all go back to editing things that actually need it instead of fighting between PC gone mad vs. XXX ratings. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 21:46, November 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you please next time reply to me in the same section instead of opening a new one? --X29 02:58, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I'm annoying, Shock Dragon? For removing perverted edits, you call me annoying? Thank you very much. --X29 12:02, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No your annoying because after everyone came to an agreement on the talk page you had to go ahead and go against the agreement that Ultimate did. THAT's why I'm mad at you, it's like everyone has to undo everything they do to make you feel better even after everyone was happy with the change. It's got NOTHING to do with your views. END of discussion, no further reply from either party after this point. But to answer your question about Hinata previously. Within the last year with the movie 6, there was at least three times mention of her figure in the manga prequel and like 4 times in the movie itself. --Shock Dragoon (talk) 13:36, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * You really think I'd do all that when I heard of an agreement and/or knowing it's been mentioned? Either way, the movie isn't canon, even if Kishimoto joined into developing it. When he says it was (not necessary that it's literal), fine by me. Otherwise........ ya know. And I read the manga prequel, and only her...... breasts were mentioned. Once. --X29 13:46, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, with no blasting on you the movie prequel had Hinata, Sakura, and INO (the "Wow, Hinata, you're HUGE!!!" line) I believe (could have been Tenten but I doubt it) mention her figure, so that is three..I'll be generous to you, two at least --Shock Dragoon (talk) 14:12, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you mean the manga prequel where Lee invited everyone on the hot springs for Naruto, which is what I'm talking 'bout, then you're wrong. There was just once where it's been mentioned, and that was when Hinata complained that 'they' were floating up, which Sakura envied her for. That's the only time where her...... bust was mentioned. Ever. --X29 15:57, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

No problem ^_ wiki is made of many editors, his opinion isn't the only one--Elveonora (talk) 12:24, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Reply
I guess. If you're referring to that certain user then ignore him, apparently the world revolves around him. Still amazes me to see such a pathetic/trivial forum about it. Certainly misjudge some human nature.--White Flash (Contact) 03:36, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Violation of the Image policy

 * No, you can go to the image and add the required and  templates manually. Also, read Talkpage policy: you can't remove messages from your talkpage. --Sajuuk  talk 15:12, January 30, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me how to do this, it's a helping hand Shock Dragoon (talk) 15:14, January 30, 2015 (UTC)

re: posting
Please keep the hostility to a minimum in the forums. I have edited your post. It isn't your call to decide when a discussion should end and telling people to "shut up" won't end well. --Sajuuk talk 18:57, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Icon
Hello. The icon you asked me is ready, but I can not insert on the site you sent me. However, you can see it at this link. --Lukas Pessoa Dantas (talk) 01:39, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Freaking BEAUTIFUL! Shock Dragoon (talk) 07:54, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * How do I copy and paste/save the file and upload them to a wiki? Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:40, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Try saving by here. --Lukas Pessoa Dantas (talk) 14:06, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Nature Rankings
I wanted to address your plight, because it's likely not gonna be addressed in the talk page. What you're saying isn't entirely accurate, and there's nothing to get over. It's true we start with affinities, but after that, depending on who we're talking about we go in order of canon natures. Naruto was NOT shown using Lightning Release in any part of the manga....but he DID utilize Lava, Magnet, and Boil Release. Therefore, in terms of basic elements, Fire would be second, followed by Earth (since it's part of the Lava Release make-up), followed by Water (Part of Boil Release), then Lightning last since he never demonstrated it nor is it a part of any advanced nature any of the tailed beasts utilise. It's no big deal either way, but this is logic many here have followed based on what I've seen anyway.--Mina talk  15:36, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I'd rather just keep consistency with how everyone else is done because I feel the order should be followed for consistency's sake. But thanks for attempting to explain. Shock Dragoon (talk) 15:54, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. I actually agree with you anyway. This place is never consistent tehe.--Mina [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] talk 15:57, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest, going around the wiki reordering affinities is useless and not worth your time. Doesn't really matter what order they're listed in, as long as they're in the infobox. Nobody is really going to care if Fire is at the top or not. --Sajuuk tce 17:01, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto's Elements in Order.
I have been putting Naruto's elements in the order of wind, fire, earth, water, and lightning because in the order that he obtained them. It begins with his affinity towards wind, then he used Lava Release which uses fire and earth, then he used Steam Release which uses water and fire, and that leaves lightning as the last element for him to obtain through the Truth-Seeking Balls.—Steveo920 (Talk) 19:35, June 21, 2015
 * Yeah but everyone else in the wiki is done in order of the element cycle starting with affinity like everyone else. In Naruto's case Wind is first followed by Lightning and the rest. We do it Kakashi and the others, Naruto should be no exception. Shock Dragoon (talk) 00:37, June 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Naruto's only affinity is Wind, which is why it is still the first one. He never used Lightning release beyond being a composition in his Truth-Seeking Ball. Therefore, Lightning should be last.—Steveo920 (Talk) 10:05, August 21, 2015
 * Yeah, but the elements need to be in order of the wheel, mixing them is done NOWHERE else on the wiki but his page. Even Kakashi's in in order of the wheel. So we need to keep them that way for him too. Shock Dragoon (talk) 14:09, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, those people had their elements in such order simply because they were never seen using them. Kakashi's elements were in such order because that was the order he used them. Characters like Kakuzu had their elements written in the order they actually used them.—Steveo920 (Talk) 11:50, August 21, 2015
 * Doesn't matter, there needs to be consistency and doing by the wheel (with noted affinity first) regardless is the only way to remain consistent throughout the wiki. You know I'm right there. Shock Dragoon (talk) 15:56, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Symbols "fanon"
I'm no higher-up, lol. Just don't like the idea of putting made-up symbols, even as placeholders. However, that doesn't mean you can't do so; but please, start a thread about it in the Wiki Discussion board first, so that we'll see what the other editors think. Best regards.--JOA2016:40, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Still, in some form you are right, unless we see something that can be taken as a symbol it's just going to be regarded as fanon sadly. I just wanted to make better symbols than those red ones we keep making. Just thought something better like our Hozuki placeholder would be better. Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:44, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Tennin
Just read that term… What's that? :P --JOA2015:39, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Tennin or "Tenshi" is a heavenly being that comes from the heavens. Because Kaguya comes from another world she and other Otsutsuki like Momoshiki and Kinshiki are Tennin. They also wear Hagoromo like Momoshiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennin. 16:31, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought it was more like, aka, a ninja who came from the heavens :P --JOA2016:45, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * If anything, that's the "alien species" that Kaguya is. Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:50, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Hamura & Flight
Hey :) Just letting you know, Hamura was never even said to have been capable of flying. He didn't posses Six Paths Senjutsu, which grants them flying, at least not to our knowledge.--Omojuze (talk) 12:15, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hagoromo and Hamura had the same chakra, Hamura just didn't go by "Six Paths". the manga made it clear they inherited the same chakra as their mother and thus both of them can fly...Hagoromo at the very least levitates. Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:19, July 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * With that reasoning, Sasuke and Naruto must be capable of doing everything that Madara and Hashirama can because they're both Asura/Indra's descendants, but yet they can't.--Omojuze (talk) 12:21, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Blue Byakugan
A consensus maybe? Also, Byakugan is the "White Eye", so... Just sayin'.--Omojuze (talk) 15:48, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Guess we should just accept that the names are just names, there's been different color Rinnegans after all. Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:13, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yet Rinnegan isn't named after "Purple eye"... >.>--Omojuze (talk) 16:17, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * What I mean is it's just another variation, we don't need a new page called "Blue Byakugan" just another type of Byakugan silly. Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:25, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not a variation, it's the exact same Byakugan every Hyūga uses... *shesh*. Like, what leads do you have that it's different? We don't even know how she awakened it in the first place.--Omojuze (talk) 16:29, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then why do we feel the need to show the different variations of Sharingans, Mangekyo, Rinnegan, and such? Same thing as this since Himawari has Blue Eyes. 16:44, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because they have official colourations and we know they are different. Like.. I cannot grasp your logic... What leads do you even have that Himawari's Byakugan is somehow blue? And that it is somehow different from anyone else, despite having no visual difference whatsoever, unlike the Rinnegan for example.--Omojuze (talk) 16:46, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Bolt's Elements
Why Did U Undo My Edit? He Never Used Lightning Or Water Legitimately Without The Kote. Bob1200 (talk) 16:18, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Novel said he has learned them: Link: http://cacatuasulphureacitrinocristata.tumblr.com/post/127124450966/boruto-the-movie-novelization-chapter-one Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:21, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah I See. Should Post That In The Summary Of Why Ur Editing It Next Time Then, lol. I Usually Read Those Before I Edit Pages. Bob1200 (talk) 16:27, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * The person who added them in the first place did, but you completely ignored that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:29, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * To be fair and honest I tried but I never "undo change" before and I thought it would ask me why I was changing but it didn't. The summary never came up so I apologize for that, I tried. Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:31, August 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Omni I Looked But I Didn't See Any Edit Summary, lol. Bob1200 (talk) 16:35, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

RE: "Nekozuka"
I agree. If necessary I can do it. --Lukas Pessoa Dantas (talk) 22:45, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Given that we're returning to the RTNverse next week, I'd sponsor the make and take the blame. Shock Dragoon (talk) 13:01, August 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it. Here it is: Kiba's Facial Marks (RTN) --Lukas Pessoa Dantas (talk) 04:16, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Formerly
I believe it's because we focus on the manga entirely, not just the ending of it. For example, Kakashi lost his Sharingan, but he still has it added, because for those who are yet to catch up to the series, he has it (something like that). Though I'm not sure myself.--Omojuze (talk) 19:59, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not entirely the same case, tho. I dunno, I just know that we don't really use 'em.--Omojuze (talk) 04:15, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Symbols clan
In general the Uzumaki symbol is red but we have seen this symbol also of other colors for example gray or green. --Sharingan91 (talk) 16:04, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Wording Reminder
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Narutopedia:Manual_of_Style#Writing_style I suggest you should read this policy. Kunoichi101 (talk) 21:44, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * True, but I don't know British English so I just rely on those who do that are here. So sorry, but i can only do the best I can when I'm writing so much. I'll try to figure more out for you, but no 100% promises. Shock Dragoon (talk) 22:08, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Canon novel
If you were talking about the Itachi novels, those aren't canon. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:53, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Translation tips
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Chinoike_Clan?diff=1151250&oldid=1151249 look over my edits and next time put the translation way, thnx Kunoichi101 (talk) 01:43, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was creating three pages at once in a manner I've never done before (all these templates) and I lost my way. Really we need Luka to translate these pages better for me. Shock Dragoon (talk) 01:46, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * You do know I'm Brazilian right? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:32, May 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, in all honesty, no I didn't...and I didn't know if anyone else knew Portuguese other than Lukas...sorry.Shock Dragoon (talk) 12:12, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox
starting from next time, whenever you decided to create a character, use this http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Form%3ACharacter hope this will come in handy Kunoichi101 (talk) 00:43, May 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Believe it or not, I did use this, thanks Shock Dragoon (talk) 00:44, May 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * i don't believe it because i noticed something from Naruto Musasabi article before I even created an infobox. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_Musasabi?action=edit&oldid=1155624 Kunoichi101 (talk) 00:46, May 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not kidding, I went to "Add a page" and I led me to that, but this time, I'll use the link you gave me. Shock Dragoon (talk) 00:48, May 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * starting next time, you mean. besides all the characters were being used the infobox without any stuffs. add a page won't do, i guess. Kunoichi101 (talk) 00:50, May 13, 2016 (UTC)