Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27664103-20160220225016/@comment-27660682-20160225091356

How do you guys know that Tengai shinsei is even attributed to his rinnegan and not just his susanoo? His susanoo did hand signs for it, and he implied that he knew how to use it when he was alive. Tengai Shnsei was never among the rinnegan techniques either, the only thing somehwat simliar to it is chibaku tensi, which even then works completely different and is a different jutsu all together. But its out of the question because he stated it to be a kamikaze technique, and obito can just teleport it away, phase throught it etc. In addition,  how do you know kamui shurikens  will be effective against susanoo, as they arent that big compared to pefect susanoo and it seems they have to cut to warp away portions of susanoo. Also, can obito just teleport inside the crystal thing on top of madaras susanoo?. I think that madara is alot more experienced, smarter, and he has intel on kamui too. Of course kamui backed up by his own perfect susanoo is problematic, but unless I get more info on kamui shuriken I don't see obito overwhelm ing madara there. Obitos wood style shouldn't make a difference as its way weaker than hashirama's and madara has plenty of experience fighting that.