Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29899821-20160317090255/@comment-24824859-20160512225303

XShadyShadow wrote: @UltimaDude How is activating Susano'o with one eye = To having PS? For PS EMS is required at the very least, Shisui doesn't have EMS so clearly he does not have PS. Shisui likely already attained the ability before the scuffle with Danzo seeing as though he had MS beforehand, and it's debatable if you can use Susano'o afterwards despite not having eyes as Madara was able to. A counterargument for that could be because of Sage mode but we aren't too certain if that was the reason or not. Don't mix up my words. If you are going to accept Shisui having Susanoo as canon, then you will also accept him having PS as canon. QuakingStar wrote: Seelentau confirmed that those with Double Mangekyo usually awaken Susanoo upon mastering usage of both eyes techs or something like that. So Shisui having Susanoo is not a stretch or implausible. Obito did state that Susanoo was a rarity among Mangekyo users regardless but that was earlier in the manga and it seems DB4 and the later chapters have retconned that seeing as how Kakashi instantly used Susanoo once he got both Mangekyo. So all it takes is both Mangekyo and both techs knowledge of and usage, therefor Shisui most definitely has Susanoo. Shisui activating Susanoo with only one MS is a stretch. He doesn't have the experience/hax as Madara or Six Paths chakra like Kakashi's case, so there is no one way he could of achieved that. Did the manga say Shisui has Susanno? No. Does the DB4 say that Shisui has Susanoo? No. Therefore, Shisui doesn't have Susanno