Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-34436445-20180613173319/@comment-31099706-20180703020403

@Lone. Well, just saying that if you aren't ready to read the post, it means you're ignoring my post. And there's more of a reason for it, but let's just forget about that.

When I meant take over, it was purely about controlling Hiruzen, which a clan of mind controlling geniuses could think of. They know that everyone hates them, but people also fear them too. For what we know, none of the clan leaders suspected the involvment of the Uchiha in the Ninetails attack, they all are reasonable shinobi and they know better than believe in rumours. Other than Danzo, none of the heads of the village(that is the elders and the clan leaders) were directly against the Uchiha. So, they won't suspect their own brothers(that is village members), see how Orochimaru tricked the sand, or how Obito tricked the mist?

Now, to be more clear, Fugaku can just release the Nine tails, when things get too much. The Nine tails, is stronger than the village itself, stronger than any other village.

And if we're talking about allies, Orochimaru will side with the Uchiha, to get closer to them and to rule over Konoha. The Akatsuki didn't start their operation at that period, they were doing cheaper mercenary service if I remember, maybe the Uchiha can hire them as allies? It makes the Akatsuki closer to their goal.

In the end, I'm talking about how the Uchiha can just control the four two troublesome heads, that is Danzo and Hiruzen and clear up their name and eventually make them promote Fugaku as Hokage. Fugaku was already a prospect for it, so it fits.

1) Itachi thought Obito was Madara, Itachi thought Sasuke would be a hero after getting traumatized by his own hero, Itachi thought alot of wrong things, and can you state the chapter where he said himself that he thought so?

Plus, if my memory serves Itachi feared the civil war that will come, the Civil war that will come after the succes of the Coup! Danzo took advantage of Itachi's peaceful side and his love for his brother and his love for the village at the point where Shisui suicided. If you took that as the Uchiha having no chance, then this discussion will never end.

2) 'Everyone' suspected the Uchiha. I stated the answer to this above, please if you can, refer to that.

3)All the things you state to be from the writer were just from the least noble/honest character in the series, who lies and manipulates people time by time. Give an actual statement from the manga and not something as weak as that.

4) Destruction, itself was what they worried. Hence the Uchiha or Fugaku disapproving from the idea of using the Nine tails, if a silent coup happened and it was succesful, nothing would be lost, the Uchiha will still be strong in the village and no other village would dare to attack. LegionZero wrote: The Akatsuki gather the remaining Bijuu and the Eye of the Moon plan happens with little to no difficulty. Black Zetsu backstabs Obito, turns him into Kaguya. Sh amasses an army to fight off Momoshiki and Kinshiki. Toneri figured that human suck anyways and forms an alliance with Kaguya, but since he is basically powerless it doesnt really matter what he does. And by how Boruto shows it, the Otsutsuki will come and deal with both of them.