Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36006024-20180926134241/@comment-34194151-20181025212218

@Blazerelease

I seriously want you to stop claiming I'm using headcanon. why? because I literally cited you two chapters 542-543. So get your headcanon accusations out of here. You literally haven't read the chapters nor have you addressed them or my other arguments, otherwise you wouldn't continue to be spewing your headcanon. Ayy and Bee are literally stated and shown to be a tag team during the shinobi world war in those chapters. Go and count how many times they say "A and B tag team". Then look at how killer bee says the only reason he has a chance against the Yellow flash is because his big bro Ayy is there. You also conveniently ignored the fact that bee had TO SAVE AYY FROM MINATO. Ayy fought minato many times because bee was there to bail him out of the FTG level 2. The manga clearly showed Minato= A+B, Minato >A, Minato > B, period. At the end of chapter 543, they even tell you that Ayy and Bee stopped being a tag team because Ayy didn't want bee to ever leave the village again, which is the whole reason killer bee wanted a vacation. killer bee never fought outside of the village again until after he faked his death against sasuke, which leads to my next point. If in your next reply I see that you failed to reread those two chapters and address the argument, I happily accept your concession.

I see you using headcanon. Like ignoring the fact that Bee clearly wanted free time from the village and Raikage. He took it so seriously that he even refused to go full bijuu mode against Kisame. No one here is falling for your false claims that killer bee retreated because of sasuke. He literally owned sasuke, period. he retreated to take a vacation, that was literally stated and shown in the canon, beginning in chapter 419.

Lol no, did you rewatch the fight? Killer bee didn't have intel on suigetsu's special constitution, which caused killer bee's arm to get stuck in sugietsu's body, which allowed sasuke to chidori them both. So your intel excuse doesn't work. It goes both ways. Both sides had little to no intel on each other. Killer bee knowing about the sharingan is no different than sasuke knowing about killer bee's v1 cloak from his previous experiences fighting naruto. Killer bee wasn't even phased by jugo's punch, or sasuke's chidori, neither attack did lasting damage. Killer bee casually shunshined away after shaking off the electrocution. Taka was fodder to bee, even when they went for the kill.

And lol no, killer bee is faster and smarter than you give him credit for. We know he can move through his tentacles quickly to avoid danger, we saw him do it to madara, so he also did it to sasuke, period. the substitute lasted long because it was a well designed substitute. no one thought to actually injure the fake bee beforehand because they were convinced it was the real thing. only after hours of slowly absorbing all its chakra were they able to naturally undo the substitute and show that it was a tentacle.

As for sasuke's injuries, if it makes you feel better, sasuke still gets stomped even at full health, so there goes that argument.

Lol, I'm fully aware that kishimoto is a self proclaimed sasuke fanboy. Which is why to reduce bias, he has to thrown in some fights where sasuke gets utterly stomped, so that was the purpose of the killer bee fight. The sasuke fanboys were getting too cocky after sasuke's supposed "victory" over itachi.

More headcanon I see. So we ignore the fact that Ayy was able to fight perfectly fine even after his arm was engulfed in amaterasu? IT's clear as day that the amaterasu couldn't burn through the armor. The reason Ayy cut off his arm is because even he can't maintain the raiton armor forever, and there are other practical issues with walking around with your arm covered in black flames. So that's why he removed it. We don't see what happens to the amaterasu on gaara's sand because it was off-paneled. Wow, more headcanon. the v1 and v2 chakra cloaks aren't flesh, they are actually chakra. The chakra has special physical properties that boost speed, power, and durability, and it seems to be detachable, as naruto detached the part of his cloak affected by amaterasu. V2 and V1 cloak> amaterasu, period.

And you took more of my post out of context. I clearly stated that the version of sasuke that BEE fought would also be stomped by Ayy. sasuke could not use susano'o at the time. So if Ayy fought that version of sasuke, liger bomb soloes. lariat soloes. And lol, you want to talk physics now? The way in which kage summit sasuke countered liger bomb doesn't even make sense. All he did was place susano'o between himself and the ground, and all that means is that the raikage slams sasuke into susano'o instead of the ground. Guess what? susano'o is still a hard surface. you can even see on panel that his head was slammed into his susano'o rib cage, and yet sasuke suffered no damage. That's what we call plot. Even ignoring that, Raikage would still stomp MS sasuke even with susano'o because sasuke can't maintain it continously, he must take breaks due to the pain and stamina issues. the second he does Ayy blitzes and lariats his head off, period. Ayy was in a bloodlusted and extremely reckless state of mind during the kage summit. hitting amaterasu when he didn't need to was a stupid decision, but it didn't matter because he knew he could take sasuke out. Ayy also isnt as stupid as you claimed. He would only let his legs touch amaterasu during the kick, not his arm. after sasuke is dead, ayy cuts his left arm off and his legs and his medic heals him. Ayy has rediculous pain tolerance and endurance, he would live. Ayy would no longer be a functioning shinobi, but sasuke wouldn't be a shinobi at all anymore, sasuke would be in the afterlife.

and lol no, you are simply downplaying killer bee's speed, and ignoring timing and sustenance. Sasuke at the time had significant backlash from each Ms technique he used, to the point he had to hold his head in pain. As sasuke slowly turned around thinking bee was down for good, killer bee had already gotten up and began charging. Killer bee moved so fast that jugo and karin couldn't even warn sasuke. Sasuke literally stated that killer bee has loads of speed and power, and that he was only managing the speed because killer bee moves in a straight line and he has a sharingan. This time around, sasuke was suffering from MS backlash, so he had zero chance of reacting to killer bee's speed.

And I'm just gonna disregard any claims that gyuki was out of stamina, as not only is that illogical, it was never stated. Gyuki said BEE was low on strength, nothing about gyuki itself being low. Gyuki is literally a bijuu with rediculous reserves. Killer bee wasn't even completely bloodlusted against taka. if he was, he would have used bijuu dama barrage, which fires several bijuu dama in quick sucession. in the war arc, the guy he even tanked his own bijuu dama, and fought in bijuu mode for a significant amount of time before needing rest.

Whether or not Adult sasuke beats killer bee is irrelevant to this discussion. Adult sasuke wins, to my distaste, for obvious reasons. but saying Ms teenage sasuke beats killer bee is just disrespecting killer bee in my opinion.