Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34678409-20180213061618/@comment-25643824-20180220110909

BlazeRelease wrote: Ninjachris wrote: Anyone can touch limbo clones, because they can attack anyone only naruto was shown without a doubt to cause damage to the real madara by striking not touching a limbo clone, sasuke’s sword pierced a clone was it made out of SP chakra or metal? In chapter 676 pg14 sasuke is very concerned when he sees the four limbo clones approaching and tells naruto because he is aware that he can’t fight them, naruto is aware of this and tells him leave them to me, naruto has been the only person to engage them in physical combat despite sasuke being able to see them he has never engaged them in physical combat. And this further support the point that others have made concerning sasuke only receiving the yin portion of hags chakra and naruto the yang making the both of them combined hags total SP chakra which rinnegan madara has all within himself. And it makes sense why sasuke can only see them and naruto can only sense them because sasuke got the yin (the eyes) with which you see and naruto got the yang (the body) with which you sense and do physical damage.

Also madara was mere feets in front of sasuke when he returned from Kamui dimension, he had the perfect opportunity to use ameno and “behead” madara but when he saw that there were two more limbo clones was scared shitless.

Sasuke has never engaged them in battle despite being able to see them because he can’t harm them and they would kill him

Don’t know how many times I have to repeat this sasuke got the opportunity to slash madara because

1. He was not fighting alone and naruto kept the two limbo clones occupied, which if naruto wasn’t there madara wouldn’t have even had the need for his second rinnegan to kill sasuke.

2. Because his back was turn while he was going to retrieve his other eye, whilst knowing nothing they did could kill him.

Also don’t know why you are going on and on about ttj madara when rinnegan madara actually has better feats of durability and Taijutsu.

Sasuke’s Taijutsu didn’t save him from being burnt to the brink of death and he was fighting alongside naruto who had to save him when he was burnt, where was his Taijutsu against shin? also kayuga was also an alien, and we have seen that being a otsutsuki doesn’t automatically imply high Taijutsu skill level considering kayuga and Momoshiki, kinshiki was the only one to show good Taijutsu.

So at the end of it all why even bother to make this thread when sasuke is monumentally outgunned, he will be dead before he even realizes it. Thanks for replying polite this time, and I guess it would be rude of me to not reply back.

The sword Sasuke uses is actually infused with his chakra(in that case, his Six Paths Chakra)

And I had already shown that Sasuke indeed can touch the limbo(or in that case, seal/shock it) so physical combat through contact isn't even a question.

Sasuke actually informed Naruto that Madara has increased his number of clones, like a teammate should. If by any chance, Naruto didn't notice(due to being more focused on Madara) it would be dire for them.

And as excellent as both Madara and Sasuke are in analysis, they never stood to remark that Naruto can touch those Limbos, that only means that the reason Madara didn't become astonished is because he expected them to being able to touch it, and Sasuke already knows that he can.

That may actually be the reason, Madara was concerned of Obito, since after being a TJJ, he feared of Obito seeing his Limbo. It tells one that how much the invisibility of the jutsu is the key factor to it.

And as I've said, Sasuke went after Madara, and Naruto held back the Limbos. It already has been shown that it was the most effective coordination, since Naruto sealed them with his jutsus, while Sasuke succesfully reached and sliced Madara(only for him to survive with such a slash)

1.It's safe to say that Madara's Limbos are equal or close to his power, so if Sasuke's speed is enough to reach a flying Madara and slice him, don't you think there would be a huge gap in power in between a non TJJ Madara and his Limbos with Sasuke?

2.Madara already had extreme sensing abilities, that should be even better than Naruto's. So turning his back, would be a null point. And you can clearly see his back wasn't entirely turned away, as he saw Sasuke coming and even praised of his speed.

However durable Rinnegen Madara would be, would he still be as durable as TJJ Madara? The Madara that got sliced by Sasuke?

I don't know if even Might Guy's taijutsu would help him in the middle of a instant lave attack. Sasuke and Naruto were clearly beating him up with taijutsu, the tables only turned(for a short while) when Kimo suddenly used Ninjutsu.

When did Shin beat Sasuke in taijutsu? I don't remember it in the manga, and the anime isn't entirely correct as the manga was. Though in the manga, I remember Sasuke was exhausted of his powers because of constant time travels. As well as having a kind of a soft corner for people who were like him, in his past. Like he ordered Momo to surrender and he didn't finish of Kinshi when he had the chance to(when he and the kages captured them), it clearly shows that he isn't the same to kill driven merciless teenager he used to be.

Sasuke when he had all the other options to beat Kinshi, decided to fight him with just swords, it shows how much confident he was in it, I mean, even you know what other ways he had to defeat him. And Kimo, was even stronger than him, with all his taijutsu abilities.

So you and I have different opinions. I'll respect yours as much you'll respect mine. And I know that I kept saying this, but this time, I'm not really gonna reply back, so have a good day and peace out! :)

I always replied politely if you offended by any of my replies then you’re little too sensitive.

Now I don’t know what you can’t understand about anyone or everyone being able to touch limbo clones not just ppl with SP chakra which is simply common sense and basic science, if only persons with SP could touch them then they wouldn’t be able to touch persons/bijus who don’t have SP chakra it isn’t a one way street because obviously they can attack anyone and you guessed right that requires touching.

So it’s not that sasuke or anyone else can’t fight them a limbo clone stopped Sakura when she to punch him upon returning from Kamui dimension and she doesn’t have SP. is just that it would be absolutely pointless since it would result in the real madara receiving any damage from it. And sasuke and naruto knew this they are not some intangible creatures, they are invisible and undetectable to everyone else other than naruto and sasuke that’s pretty simple to understand.

And sasuke and madara being highly analytical would look stupid stating the obvious which was that only naruto’s attacks can cause physical damage to the real madara and actually when sasuke remarked that SP chakra can harm them he made it in reference to naruto’s SP chakra which represents the body of hag and the observation was made after sasuke saw the damage on madara’s arm after naruto attacked the limbo with a physical attack, absolutely non sasuke’s attack left any Visual damage, and sasuke black chidori touch engulfing the clone really isn’t surprising if kakashi could see them he could attack them whit chidori and the clone would get hit but it wouldn’t result in harm to the limbo clone or the real madara or kakashi’s death just like sasuke.

Well he was fighting with help against Momoshiki they should have been beating him up and he should have never been burnt to the brink of death and that in itself isn’t bad but just reiterates the point that he has no Taijutsu feats that even come close to those of rinnegan madara. Yea he was so confident against kinshiki that he had to use ameno to escape certain death.

So basically madara limbo and more than enough to kill sasuke a 1000times over I have proved he is that he has nothing can counter them. And if it’s plain old Taijutsu madara trumps again the only advantage I give sasuke over madara is speed but that not enough since madara is also no slouch.

Rin madara just too strong for current adult sasuke sorry.