Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-35448581-20160502192848/@comment-25122992-20160503100749

GurīnEnGan no Seiin wrote: @Thekillman I don’t think I’m mixing anything here. I do know that a dojutsu is just a temporary vessel for a given power, like if the hand seal was pre-made in the eye. And: How are the Byakugan and Sharingan that much different in regard of lines of Kekkei Genkai? One could say that the rinnegan itself is the result of a chakra fruit affected Ōtsutsuki’s byakugan, and as such you could say all dojutus, including sharingan, descend from the Ōtsutsuki original byakugan. And: About me mixing the Tenseigan (energy vessel) and Tenseigan (eye power). As I understand all that, it was toneri not his eyes, who was harnessing the power of the Tenseigan energy vessel (a huge concentration of all his clansmen chakra+hamura chakra), something very similar to using a bijuu chakra mode or senjutsu chakra mode. Hence my example on naruto’s eyes esthetical change when in TBCM or Sennin Mode. And because it was toneris 's who was harnessing the power of the Energy vessel he didn’t need it to move the moon, that’s why it didn’t matter when Hinata destroyed it. In any case tenseigan is nothing but an esthetical change, something kishimoto did to please Byakugan fans. Some kind of unnecessary Mangekyou-like power up. Naruto himself in his SPCM features many of the characteristics of the tenseigan (a chakra mode, truth seeking ball, ability to fly and a change in eye appearances, etc.) yet nobody says he have a dojutsu. I think you're making a lot of mistakes here. Firstly, we can't cay Rinnegan and Sharingan actually came from Byakugan. Yeah, chakra affected Ootsutsuki's/Uchiha's eyes to create certain doujutsus, but it was happening even before their actual birth. That's why these people are born with the chakra ment to naturally awaken Sharingan/Rinnegan in their eyes, there's already no "Byakugan-ment" chakra in them.

Secondly, about Tenseigan. Yeah, Energy Vessel overall is a a huge concentration of Ootsutsuki chakra (to be more precise, it's an assemblage of Ootsutsukis' numerious Byakugan eyes + Hamura's Tenseigan eyes), yet Toneri only used it to power up the stuctures (artificial sun, puppets etc) within the Moon and make it move onto the Earth. He didn't use it to enhance his own abilities. All of them come from Toneri's original chakra.

And Tenseigan is surely a doujutsu and not something you call "esthetical change". Let's differentiate what you mean here. As far as I understood, you use this term to call any sybmolic changes that happen to the user of the certain chakra (senjutsu, Buju) when it powers up the user's body. Yet Tenseigan doesn't fall into this category. It can be created by mixing Ootsutsuki and Hyuga chakra (i.e. Hyuga Byakugan + chakra of the single Ootsutsuki), and all the abilities that awaken afterwards come from the eyes created as a result. It's not a symbol of these abilities, it's the source of them. Tenseigan Chakra Mode comes from the eyes as well, Toneri was using his own chakra for it, not the chakra of all the Ootsutsuki within Energy Vessel.