Talk:Fire Release: Fire Breath

Not Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique like in anime
Too small, and wrong shape. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 20:45, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Why mentionning no hand-signs
Those are rare, and his hand positions indicate that they were not needed which is different from several other jutsu with no indicated hand-signs where we do not see the hands at all. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 20:45, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Deletion
Why? Do you deny it happened, or that it was not Great Fireball? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 00:37, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jutsu can be performed with less hand seals if a ninja is talented. It is speculation that this is a different jutsu. S im A nt 02:02, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Moreover, an unnamed jutsu used by an unnamed character is almost impossible to find, and therefore almost completely useless. ~SnapperTo 02:39, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Snapper2, what do you mean impossible to find? I gave an exact page cite, and how would it be useless.
 * @Simant, it does not resemble any other fire jutsu by its shape, and talented ninja are usually given more face time, this guy was not given that kind of recognition. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 04:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fire doesn't have a definite shape. Also, someone can be talented and not be in the limelight. S im A nt 04:52, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretend I am reading the manga. I see some nameless character use some nameless jutsu. (Also pretend I need to read an article to tell me what happens in this one panel.) How do I find it? Search for Konoha Ninja ? Comb through a list of fire jutsu and try to figure out what arbitrary name someone decided to give this? There is no way to find this article unless you know where it is. ~SnapperTo 04:53, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Simant, the fire jutsu thus far has had specific shapes though (even dragons) until it actually collides with something.
 * @Snapper2, is that a reason to delete it? Moreover, if one does want to find the jutsu, there are only 15 manga fire jutsu, several with well known names or obviously not the one (Sage:---, or Hanzo's, etc.) so that would not be a real problem. Or do you just want another name? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 17:12, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * *forgot filtering capabilities*
 * In other news, I dislike unnamed articles in general. 90% of unnamed articles are no more informative than the name they are given or in what context they are linked to. "Levitation Technique" about sums up that article, and "Shima uses a fire jutsu when helping perform Sage Art: Goemon" is the full extent of that particular ability. "Fire Release: Fire Breath" just happens to be a double whammy of these issues. ~SnapperTo 19:08, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

You know this could simply be a simple Fire Release: Flame Bullet. Wasn't it called the "most generic technique" Cerez365 (talk) 01:17, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't that jutsu (Flame Bullet) require oil?
 * Perhaps there should be instead made a page for unnamed fire jutsu? Then perhaps that could be more useful in not only finding this particular jutsu, but for future occurrences of unnamed fire attacks?--Sukashii (talk) 01:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't require oil that's why it's called "generic" because most katon users can probably use it. Cerez365 (talk) 02:07, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Um...Master Cerez365, I cannot find the 'generic' part, in fact: 'The Fire Release: Flame Bullet technique is executed by the user gathering oil in their mouth which is created by chakra, spits it out, and ignites it. This technique simply shoots a flame bullet at the enemy.' Snapper2 does have a point about jutsu where only the name is used, but I cannot see a way to do it without complicating the system even more. Regardless, that is not the point here. One point though on generic stuff, and yes this is speculation, but with learning wind change in nature the user lets some cutting wind out the palms without hand-signs, what about a small fire ball for fire change in nature? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 04:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up. What are the problems with this jutsu again? Just to make it clear after all of the discussion about it. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 00:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Image
So we are on the same track.