Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30355627-20161030163643/@comment-9782468-20161210060145

@Quakingstar ahhhh, I thought you meant when Itachi used his Mangekyo to summon the bird, not perform Koto, so I didn't read that far. Well Honestly that just proves that whenever Sasuke is preparing a large technique, Nagato can sense it. He can't sense what it will be. And Sasuke requires marginally less charge time for his techs than Itachi at this point.

Nothing is getting ridiculous. This is a debate, and I do bring good evidence. If you think this is one-sided in your favour, then you're just ignoring me really.

@Princeharris, Naruto had so much more than just .5 Kurama. His SPSM alone is an incredible power boost that allowed him enough power to even physically worry Juubidara with his strength and speed (before he turned on his TB cloak). Also, just because you don't care how fast Sasuke is doesn't mean it's a non-factor in this fight. It's a huge factor. And Sasuke is so far above Nagato in terms of speed (as already shown by comparing NTCM Naruto to Nagato) that it'll definitely be a big factor, if not winning factor. Also if you think that Naruto wasn't serious during that fight, you've missed the point Kishi was trying to make in the series. It was a clash of ideals, with neither side willing to back down. Naruto didn't want it that way, as he wanted to have a fair bout between comrades. But he still was serious in the fight because he had to save his friend.

Think of it this way too. Nagato on his deathbed can create a sizeable Chibaku Tensei. However, even with full health, I doubt he'd be able to create one bigger than Madara's meteors, or even the meteors coming down in The Last. Sasuke blew away an entire meteor with a single Chidori with minimal effort, while it required the combined efforts of several Gate users to replicate the feat.