Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-33048698-20181007162658

LegionZero wrote: There is debris floating around Naruto and Toneri during their last fight. They are in 0 G Where? I hope you know toneri was using his telekinesis to levitate rocks? Even if you can prove that they were in zero G, How do you explain Naruto controlling his body as if he were flying, considering that he pushes off of nothing and therefore his net movement will be zero?

Hagoromo wasnt confirmed to have given Asura chakra. That was anime only filler. Then how did asura gain spsm? He wasn't a jinchuuriki of any tailed beast, and he didn't have six paths chakra which may make him able to enter spsm. I think the easiest answer may be that hagoromo gave him six paths sage chakra. And below you state that the databook says that hagoromo gave naruto spsm, so which one is it?

Hagoromo and Hamura were not born with Juubi chakra. They were born with 6 Paths chakra. My mistake. But as Obito showed, one way of gaining six paths power/chakra is to have been the ten tails jinchuuriki. Maybe, Hagoromo and hamura were special cases seeing as they are half-otsutsuki.

This is only if SPS is provided only by the Juubi. Hagoromo and Hamura used SPS to seal the Juubi. Hagoromo had SPS after extracting the Juubi from himself. The databook says Hagoromo gave Naruto SPSM, not the bijuu. Maybe you're correct on most of this. But about Hagoromo giving naruto Spsm, that's not really correct. The shikamaru hiden(which is canon) novel suggests that having the chakra of all nine tailed beasts is also a requirement to obtain this mode. And why would Kishimoto make obito giving naruto the one and eight tails chakra a plot point? the only thing that hagoromo gave naruto was the six paths yang seal and jumpstart spsm.

In the movie and manga versions of Naruto, Momoshiki looks into Naruto with the Byakugan and only sees the fox's chakra. Ah yes, Momoshiki sees the chakra of the final tailed beast he needs to create a chakra fruit. Mind you, kurama's chakra could have accounted for over 90% of all the tailed beast chakra and momoshiki was just interested in gaining the chakra of the fox, so moot point.

The cloak he used against Juubidara & Kaguya comes from the 9 Tailed Beasts. He can use SPSM with Kurama Mode or he can use SPSM with 9 Bijuu Cloak(if he had the 9 Bijuu) Or the cloaks really don't matter at all. Only thing we need is him performing spsm abilities or having cross eyes w/o pigmentation. And you know that the un-highlighted face was retconned away right? Also, are you contradicting yourself?

The only time Juubi chakra was ever properly formed was when the Bijuu were all brought together back in the Gedo. As far as I'm concerned the gedo mazo was never described as a chakra mixer, it was only the husk of the ten tails. Without it, the Juubi itself couldn't be revived. And the manga already shows that that juubi chakra still had the tailed beasts consciousness as they struggled to break free when naruto hit kaguya with the tailed beast rasenshuriken. so yeah, juubi chakra can still be formed yet the tailed beasts have their concsiousness, only difference with naruto is that he cooperates with them.

While in Naruto they remained as seperate beings who could could use their chakra individually. They were brought together but little evidence supports that they or their chakra was mixed together to become some sort of mini-Juubi Except the canon novel shikamaru hiden proves you wrong on that. having the tailed beast chakra gives you spsm. On this very wiki, naruto is called the human pillar of the ten tails power. The tailed beasts can use their own chakra individually because naruto cooperates with them.

Ok this is a brand new ability that has no shown or stated ties to SPSM. What? It has ties in that naruto did something he was previously never shown to do before the spsm amp like him restoring kakashi's eyeball or saving gai's life, Naruto had never shown any ability like this, It's safe to assume naruto could do it because of the understanding of all universal things amp he got in spsm.

All he did was remove the ball, which wasnt doing physical damage in the first place and he didnt heal her. You make it sound like pre spsm war arc naruto could do that as well.

How did naruto know how to remove the ball within her chest? How was he sure that when he put his hand on her chest, he wasn't gonna grope her boobs with a chakra enhanced fist? That feat required naruto to Grasp the nature of chakra and comprehend all universal things.

Since when did the innate ability to grasp the nature of chakra and comprehend all universal things mean "I can only heal people?"