Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20180918103159

1) Again, that's just what you believe. It's not a fact. Unless Kishimoto or Koda state it, or the Manga states it, it simply is just a theory. I did originally say Itachi failed to hit Obito, I concede on that and admit i was wrong. But the Izanagi statement is just pure opinion. The problem with your opinion is why? Kamui allows Obito to phase through whatever is in contact with him. It does this automatically and he doesn't get the choice in the matter (Evidence when Gai went to hit Obito's head and Obito was trying to grab Naruto's face. He was forced to Kamui his head and hand cause they both made contact with something). Even if Amaterasu did hit, as we seen with Karin; he had more than enough time to activate Kamui and phase any part of his body that'd make contact with the flames and leave the area. Yet, he just wasted an eye? Why was this also never stated? Why wait all the way until Konan for it to be revealed he can use it? What I do know without a doubt, is he used it on Konan. And he was forced to cause he had nothing else. Seeing as I can't say the same for Itachi, her tactic beats his. Therefore, I give her the edge in tactics. If you're really so gung ho about it, prove it, put Itachi in Konan's shoes. How does he stop Obito from getting the Rinnegan from Nagato? He has zero way even with Prep to stop him. Especially when he has Izanagi. But getting him to even use would be enough to convince in my opinion. This isn't about Obito vs Itachi, this is about Itachi vs Konan in tactics. If given the same situation, how could Itachi have done better?

2) You're right. Manga > Anime. And the Manga shows the exact same thing. Susanoo is covered in smoke. Panels zoom in on Nagato's eyes. Nagato's eyes change to show he is back in control of himself. Then it zooms out to show (with smoke still looming around) he was stabbed by Totsuka. You saying the smoke cleared as Susanoo struck is fallacy. That isn't shown in the Manga. It was shown to be somewhat visible after Nagato had been hit. Therefore the anime's version is just as canon since it followed the scenes down to the wire. Not one panel from that Managa page wasn't shown in the anime. Therefore it's canon. Nagato didn't see it. Show me where it shows Susanoo is visible and show me where Nagato can see it before it hits him.

3) And? You aren't always correct either which you have shown from time to time? What makes what you say more valuable than the wiki? The wiki is a highly trusted source cause though it can make mistakes, they make a habit to never go by opinions and take all their information from the canon sources. Yes people can come in here and edit the pages with whatever they want, but they're instantly corrected and punished. You can go change an entire article right now with false information, and I guarentee you it'd be corrected and you would find that the staff act swiftly and will punish you accordingly. When you say the wiki is wrong then it isn't just me you are debating with. It's the entire staff. So if you truly believe that, go take it up with them. If you're just going to be like "Naw it's wrong" but don't have the courage to go and act on your claim, then I really don't hold any value to that statement. Actions speak louder than words. Go prove to them that they are wrong if you truly believe that.

4) He stated he couldn't compete with him. Period. Even when Kakashi is outmatched in terms of power, he'll still fight. Yet, against Orochimaru, he didn't. For the first and only time, he was scared of the enemy to the point he didn't want to fight. Not because he cared for him. But because he felt inferior.