Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26636534-20181202220247

@Combat

I don't wanna dive down the rabbit hole with the TB and YM. Since eventually the discussion would end up devolving to "If a meteorite the size of Texas was heading for Itachi, the YM would expand to the size of Texas and counter it perfectly."

I have argued in the past against the YM particularly, but again, that not gonna happen here. If you want, we could discuss that on your talk-page perhaps or a new thread?

For Nagato instance, yeah deva could be on cool-down, preta probably won't work on a ninja tool.

For Orochimaru instance, context. Orochimaru tanks hits. Where other shinobi would dodge or counter, Orochimaru laughs it off, due to his durability and recovery. Now, if Orochimaru was caught and said nothing or was concerned, I would probably agree with you. However, Orochimaru laughed off the strike initially.

It's in character, has supported dialogue and he has the recovery abilities. What does TB have? This>>"!?". It lacks supportive evidence for a speed feat.