Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180728104553/@comment-5085906-20180729174858

@Jason of the Mangekyou

1. Not necessarily. First of all, as we saw against Kabuto, to meet the requirements for Izanami's activation, there's more to it than just one touch and voila! Itachi fought him for quite a while before activating the jutsu. So if Obito manages to grab him and activate Kamui, Itachi won't be able to activate Izanami in that instant.

Second of all, in the case of Rinnegan Obito, he has an array of jutsu that enable him fighting comfortably from a long range, one of them being the Gedo Mazo which can conjure phantom dragons that effectively seal chakra and move at a fast pace. His Rinnegan also enables him to use Chibaku Tensei which, if you remember, would have been Edo Itachi's doom if he didn't have help from Killer Bee's and Naruto's sizeable bijuu arsenal.

Thirdly and the most important one of all, Izanami is a plot jutsu, and what I mean by that is that it only works when the plot demands it. Izanami would probably work against the Juubito that was second-guessing himself and we saw it work against Kabuto who was having sudden identity problems, but the Obito with the mask whose resolve was rock solid - it wouldn't work against him. It was a magic key that Kishimoto used to get out of the predicament that was Kabuto and his army of zombie soldiers.

2. Yeah, my mistake - what I meant to say was that he made himself intangible to avoid Amaterasu, which was pretty impressive considering he was only a few feet away from Sasuke. I initially thought he used Izanagi too, but apparently the databook clarified that he used Kamui. I am aware databooks are not reliable enough, but neither the anime nor the manga actually clearly explained what was going on so, yeah..

@FlatZone

Say whatever you want, but Itachi has never fought someone that could give him a run for his money. Sure, if he were to fight Obito in the manga, he would probably whip out a new technique we never heard of before a la Izanami and finish him off, but in terms of feats he's got nothing on Obito. Using the "oh but everything works on Itachi's favor in the end" as proof that he wins this fight is not how we do these discussions. If that was the case, Naruto and Sasuke would win all of them!