Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37265641-20181022021850/@comment-35409024-20181201045209

CombatIQmatters wrote: 1)the invincibility is only in play while he is wielding the yata mirror and totsuka blade as stated in the canon. Was Itachi invincible when he got bisected by kabuto? no. Was the yata mirror and totsuka blade up at that time? also no. So concession accepted.

As if. You really that delusioned to think Naruto and Sasuke at this current time can't beat Itachi while his Susano'o is up? Sheesh. Someone's over reaching. How is Itachi invincible? Zetsu? His words mean shit. He's consistently wrong so he has no credibility. There isn't a concession until I agree. Have I agreed? Nope. So how about you learn English? K? K. You obviosuly have no clue what that word means cause you're using it wrong asf.

CombatIQmatters wrote: Here is how this works. You make a claim, you prove it. The author has only shown itachi wielding the yata mirror and totsuka blade with his complete body susano'o and up. Where is your proof that it can be wielded by him without it? Nonexistent, just as I thought. You made the claim that it doesn't have a chakra cost, you prove that. You brought up those points, not me. Where was it stated or shown that it does or doesn't have a chakra cost? nowhere. Your other point is debunked because we clearly see him deactivating his susano'o whenever he is specifically working on prepping the izanami.

When it comes to jutsu, sure. But when it comes to items? No. An item only costs chakra when it is stated to. Does throwing a Kunai cost Chakra? Does using a sword cost Chakra? Does throwing a shoe cost Chakra? Ethereal isn't Chakra, so get out with your hyperbole goop. Who are you to say an item costs Chakra with no proof? You have literally no proof. I have to disprove you when it's an item? Yea, not how it works buckaroo. You made the claim that these items cost Chakra. You said it cost Chakra, not me. I asked for proof and I haven't seen any. But what can I expect from a fan who can't see the difference between hyperbole and fact and values the word of a guy wrong none stop even in that fight? Him saying Kirin can't be evaded already shows his words mean shit.

CombatIQmatters wrote: My explanation was just fine. The yata mirror is a shield. Did you see it vaporizing the snakes? did you see the shield attacking orochimaru, did you see the shield killing sasuke when he attacked itachi? no, it protects and/or deflects attacks, it doesn't actively do any offensive/destructive actions. He activates the yata mirror and he would be protected from chibaku tensei, but the mirror wouldn't destroy the core, it would simply stop the pull from affecting his susano'o and protect it from the rocks. naruto and bee's attacks aimed at nagato would still be disrupted by the gravitation, so the core needed to be destroyed. The Yata mirror would simply protect itachi, it doesn't do anything to stop the core from disrupting the terrain as a whole and attacks that are thrown toward nagato. Destroying it was common sense. After that, we clearly see itachi elevate to the his final susano'o form, and for all we know he used the yata mirror to protect himself and his allies from the explosion. You simply grasp at straws. Hiruzen is irrelevant because it was clearly explained the only reason he was considered a god was because people considered hashirama to be a fairytale. Kirin is also irrelevant because it was shown not to be unevadeable, while the yata mirror has not yet been debunked.

Your explanation is far from fine. Growing is not movement. It's an increase in size. You need to move to another location for it to be considered movement. Did the shield move from one location to another without Susano'o? No, it stayed in the same location it was in and just got bigger and/or smaller. So where is your proof? And do you even read the technique you are arguing about? Or is this delusion? 3rd DB states it repels all attacks, but it's not going to do that with Chibaku? Itachi can't repel it back at Nagato? Guess the DB 3 is wrong then and you no longer have anything. Cool. Why didn't he just use Yata to repell the gravitational pull of Chibaku since it's an attack?

CombatIQmatters wrote: Rofl, the shield was clearly seen moving on it's own accord when it changed in size, moved to cover the side of susano'o, etc etc, all in response to attacks. Even on Chapter 393 pg 6, you can clearly see the shield expanding in size upward. Then the sfx: whoosh, is defined to be "movement through the air" according to the sfx guides, so that clearly means the shield was returning back to it's normal size. So the shield is capable of movement, so concession accepted. If the shield only changes for attacks that make "contact with it", then why is it moving/expanding to protect the side of susano'o, when the shield originally only covers the front? Last I check, momentum is a property of an object. The mirror can change any of it's properties in accordance with an attack to render it ineffective, so it can change it's velocity, period. More grasping at straws, those other hyperbole were debunked because they were shown to be countered in the manga, while the yata mirror has not been debunked, and there is a stated mechanic for it's invincibility. No one is harming itachi as long as his stamina lasts and as long as the shield and blade are being wielded, as per canon. Kishimoto>you. when his stamina runs out, then sure he dies, but the condition for invincibility was terminated at that point.

Boy do you need to learn English. Growing and Movement are two different things. You should pick up a dictionary cause so far you have used consession wrong and don't know the difference between movement and growing. I would like to see this sfx guide too, where is it? If it isn't written by Kishimoto and belongs to a scanalation, don't bother. I've read enough to know that all sites translate things differently. Also where's your proof that was for the shield and not Susano'o changing forms? Also there's a difference between a character statement and how Kishimoto actually feels. Characters are right until proven wrong? Hiruzen in his prime is the greatest Hokage then cause it wasn't proven wrong. "Kishimoto>you", what a bunch of goop. Sounds like at this point your back is against the corner with all that made up voohoo goop.