Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28731007-20160627161220/@comment-734582-20160630210021

Dizmiz01 wrote: I like your scenario I do not personally think the MS genjutsu is able to control a tailed beast inside a host But if Naruto frees Kurama, would Kakashi be able to control it?

Dizmiz01 wrote: I recall jiraiya had the toad mouth genjutsu that "none have escaped" Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant this one? considerable charge-up time there. Dizmiz01 wrote: Kakashi imo holds guy back Depends on which incarnation of kakashi since that's not specified. I'd guess either Kage or 4th War. Kakashi's specialty is assassination, which is undervalued. Raikiri can end the battle with one blow, Kakashi's challenge isn't firepower but landing the hit. Naruto's all about spamming techniques, yet faces a master of avoiding such techniques.

Guy's main role would be firepower whereas Kakashi strikes at opportune moments. Since Taijutsu doesn't use chakra (or not in significant amounts even at higher Gates), Guy's only limited by how long he can keep it up, which in the battles we've seen is pretty long.

Kakashi's Kamui i would imagine here to be similar to his use in Pain's assault and the 4th war, as a supportive jutsu. it would certainly work to counteract Jiraiya's spacetime ninjutsu and can deal with possibly bothersome jutsu.

Naruto's weakness in Sage Mode is his reliance on clones to regenerate it, his limited clones in Sage Mode and his limited Sage Mode in general. This can all be exploited by Kakashi. Summons could be bothersome, but they got beaten by Deva Path fairly easily so i don't think Guy has much trouble with them.

Note that Jiraiya has to charge his Sage Mode, leaving him vulnerable to counterattack (including Kakashi's Silent Killing).