Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20170508131046/@comment-31099706-20170515174035

@Kakashi. Dude, I think it's not as a sort of a summon, more like a rock golem avater than a summon.and he collected all the natural rocks not made them out of chakra.

And the golem is made around him as a avater, not as a summon, so if he's stuck in the CT he can't make that avater. and even if he could summon that golem without him attach to him, it can't actually free him.

Take it like this, the CT basically makes it's prisoner as materiel of it too, and in Sasuke's case the core. So if the golem decides to destroy the CT (if it can even be summoned)it will kill it's own master with it.

I hope you getting what I meant.

@Rachin123. I don't think Susanoo and Kurama can actually merge together. since from what we see, it's not a merge, it's just Sasuke covering with his Susanoo as armour, giving Kurama a sword and armour, I really don't think they'll fuse into one, even if they do fuse, the one they did at the movie and manga surely wasn't a fuse, maybe you could call the Susanoo Kurama against Obito a merge/fusion but not this lol.

And if you can see, the golem was down with one strike. four strikes and it would be overdone.

@Vladosaurus. Well why not? the Golem seemed to stay still. And I don't know why you think any of those animals will be able to dodge a susanll slash? A susanoo slash which was able to slash down a faraway mountain at the same or next second.And I don't know if the other summons have any better durability than the Golem, which got cut like butter lol.

Well then it would be more stupid on Kimo's side. Kimo's. Since Sasuke and Naruto would be even better state than they were in after the taijutsu fight(Depends if we're talking about the movie Kimo). I think already told about Shadow clones thing.

@Lorenzo. Well Kimo's smartness would be average if any. And I think it woulf be fair to call Momo not attacking Sasuke at the chunnin exams a smart move, because.

Momo himself knows that it's only because of the danger they pose on the village is only the reason Naruto sacrifices himself. Naruto knows that his best friend would come. Sasuke backs down on the fight knowing that it would be better to attack them on a safer battlefield. If Momo thought of attacking Sasuke then they woukd have no other choice but to eliminate Momo as less death as possible in the village itself. Momo and Kinshi would have to fight against all the present and incoming back up ninjas. It was better for him to escaps then stay back. And don't forget, he didn't know that Sasuke can sense Naruto's chakra in such a distance. So he didn't expect any trouble.

While what I pointed was a little smart move, I myself don't think of him having the status of smart. He was also very arrogant and such. And he was against someone who planned his own possible near defeat lol.

Now I think I should give how Kimo's and Sasuke's abilities should be by inspired by @Kinglink 15. Well I wouldn't be able to do it as good as he did but let me try.

Let me start with Kimo. with the movie one first.

Kimo surely has Kinshi's strength and speed, but he lacks the hand to hand combat experience. Sasuke was getting nice shots against him at Taijutsu. Kimo could absorb any jutsu enhanching it's power for a limited use. We know that he has Shadow binding jutsu, which probably wouldn't get experts like Sasuke and Naruto because of their experience,reaction ability and speed. The only reason it caught them was when they were didn't expect a comeback from a tired Kimo. And let me remind you, Shadow binding jutsu works best with smart characters like Shikamaru who tricks his opponents to get in. Kimo has a couple of summons, which aren't that much of a match against PS.

Now for manga Kimo.

Manga Kimo shown that he seemed to not get any taijutsu type body from absorbing Kinshi. But he was able to take on the two kage he ran from in the start. Kimo shown that he's atleast able to take on the kages.

But his taijutsu skills and power seems to be much more lacking than Movie ones. Kimo get's kicked and thrown by SPSM kurama cloak Naruto while then getting punched by Sasuke and thrown off. Kimo shown to use Wood dragons which have the ability to absorb chakra of it's victims. Sasuke was able to take down five of the. before one bit him, to which it got cutted out by Kurama. Kimo's strongest summon by far would be the avater like Golem which is strong enough to strangle Kurama. But it's overwhelmed by the Susanoo sword and get's destroyed. Kimo is also shown to use Shadow binding jutsu but just like Movie version, he could only take Naruto and Sasuke in it after them not battling.

Now for Sasuke. Sasuke is a taijutsu expert. Able to keep up with Kimo(movie one) without EMS. Has alot of ninjutsu that'll work against Kimo. has his own very powerful Genjutsu. Is very smart and can figure things out easily. Has a chakra avater that matches power with a SPSM Kurama Mode Naruto. this PS also has a sword which enables him to cut down his enemies even from far distances. And the last would be his, Ameno. His own Rinnegen ability which has the power to potentially kill any non immortal ninja.

Plot inconsistencies.

Momo and Kinshi had the luck of Naruto and Sasuke's good heart each time. As you can see Sasuke did not want to kill them, and never went for the kill, he could have killed Kinshi by stabbing at his head or heart but he just stabs at his back and let's him alive even after being captured and orders Momo to surrender. Now this all maybe because they wanted to interrogate them. But it's obvious that Naruto and Sasuke never went for the kill until they had no other choice which is after Kimo absorbs Kote jutsus and powers up to kill them. Some if the already explained ignored abilities of Sasuke. Sasuke could have released the BR in Naruto, yet decided to just leave him like that. Naruto could have used the same speed he used against Kaguya to cut her hand which this time has more meaning to it, if he had thought to do it on Kimo. Both Naruto and Sasuke's power were highly reduced due to each of their own specific drain.