Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34436445-20180604184258/@comment-35806245-20180707163851

Unlike the EMS which require no one to teach on how to use its 3 abilities, mokuton and sage mode were all self taught. You have to respect the guy's power. Madara never won anything against Hashirama, anything at all be it petty contests or even fights. Madara had been modifying himself with hashi's cells making him exceed his prime's powers. What happened between him and a weaker Edo hashi?