Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160405070243/@comment-734582-20160411213822

JouXIII wrote: ^ Hashirama distracts the Kage with Wood Clone, moves away from them and activates immediately Sage Mode and Sage Art Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands(since Hashirama can active both of them very fast). The Kage distract Hashirama with Sand Clones, Dust Release, Water mixed with lightning and Sand, and then seal him in the Sand Pyramid. Which, as you might recall, was what they successfully used against Madara.

Edo Madara possessed both Hashirama and his own power. His abilities were ridiculously beyond what either could do. He made it clear that ninjutsu can't defeat him because of the Rinnegan. The Kage were holding pretty well against him, but it's painfully clear that having both Rinnegan and being an Edo Tensei reduced their actual options to zero.

But take that away, and the Five Kage do stand a chance. Onoki dealt with both Susanoo and Wood Structures with his lightening technique. He destroyed significant areas with his Dust Release. Tsunade repeatedly healed and restored the kage to full fighting potential. She herself took on Susanoo repeatedly, took numerous mortal hits and continued. Gaara defended against numerous Susanoo while aiding the other kage.

I can't help but notice it always boils down to "hashirama just uses X" assuming the Kage don't do anything. Onoki and Tsunade knew the First Hokage. They know what he can do. They won't be caught offguard.

Can i also point out the irony that Madara says only he could see through the Wood Clones, but nevertheless was defeated by Hashirama using a wood clone?