Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28203534-20160509153448/@comment-28247797-20160517203604

@UltimaDude How was Hashirama handling Madara and Kurama in base? He was making ends meet, he wasn't handling anything. Like I said before, Hashirama's main attacks are Wood Golem and Wood dragon. They aren't good enough to put PS or Kurama down. Sure, he can defend himself against their attacks but he has no means of offense against it. THAT'S why Hashirama went into SM because Madara left him no choice. He didn't even put a dent or crack in PS while Madara was constantly breaking/slashing his techniques with PS. Evidence? It's evident enough he went SM because he had to, if he had techniques in base mode that he could use that would put PS down then he would've clearly done it as he was getting serious with Madara.

@JOA20 How on earth were they the same level? EMS Madara+Kurama had Hashirama only deflecting attacks and directing them elsewhere. He was getting no offense off and even managing to deflect Kurama's TBB back at Madara it didn't do anything to PS at all but blew his Wood golem away/or he dispersed it away because it wouldn't have been able to withstand Kurama's TBB. Being on the defensive is just delaying the inevitable, had that fight keep going the way it was with Hashirama in base he would've certainly lost. He needed SM to put EMS Madara+Kurama down, Hashirama didn't even make a dent in Susano'o and Madara was just fine, even pursuing him.The only time he broke Susano'o armor was in SM+1,000 hand buddha. Hashirama is stronger than EMS Madara but not in base form, especially not if he has Kurama with him.

Anyways, this entire thread is getting off topic.