Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20170508131046/@comment-31099706-20170510074928

Rachin123.Before I start, I just hope that I'm not annoying you or something by asking these questions.

I think the threat thing was maybe because they might have had Kaguya's weakness? I mean their Chakra turning thing and all seems to have made it possible that kaguya would turn into it too.

And considereing Sasuke guess went with the whole Zetsu army thing, considering the Zetsu army aren't that strong but they do help in keeping a distance against Kaguya and MomoKinshi. I mean she didn't crawl up like a ball and hided in her castle or something like that, she just made a army incase of Momo and Kinshi's threat. Which can be understood, considering Kaguya's love for her Nursery(Earth) was also like Naruto's love for his village, thus they could overpower her at this Earth.

Though I think the story is going to continue more on why she did it and her relation with Momo and Kinshi, I mean how did she and they know each other? And maybe they made her traumatized her as a child, considering Momo and Kinshi might have slayed down their whole clan for power and thus made Kaguya run to Earth. And before anyone says it, yes this is just a speculation by me fot why she feared Momo and Kinshi.

And don't forget that Kaguya even though she was planet level and all got defeated by just touching her twice(yes I know with seals but still). So they coming up with something like this, especially considering Momo's the sage(rinnegen,Okutsuki) while Kinshi's Hamura(Byakugan,Okutsuki) Basically.

Yes, thanks for saying that it was only because of lack of direct eye contact(even though Momo at the start looked straight into Sasuke's eyes) and not them having any special chakra disturbance thing. So Genjutsu is still very well in the table and him not using it is plot.

No it isn't that hard to believe Momo to absorb the black core, but this is where Sasuke us different. He makes the opponent the core. And the only way I see him to escape that is by absorbing a clone, then making the clone and then his clone absorbing the orginal lol.

I'm not actually talking about Kinshiki here. I'm talking about Kimo, who didn't show any chakra blades and such and so should be easily finished by the many summons they have like, The immortal dog,the Aoda, Gamakichi.Though I'm not saying just some could do it but with their master's help why not?

Well I don't know but ask the mountaina and meteorite that was sliced down and up by a Susanoo sword far from a distance.

Well Sasuke was using only sharingan and he wasn't even using his main jutsus(and please, I already said that they only figured it out at the chunnin exams).

Well that village creating TBB was absorbed and even then it was pretty easy for Kurama to throw it over as Sasuke said so.

And I think this merging thing isn't always going to give full powers to each. Like in the movie, Momo did get stronger, but I'll still say that Sasuke wasn't that serious with Kinshi. And the only time they got serious was against Kimo.

Unlike in the movie, Kimo did lose Kinshi's taijutsu skills. And I agree to that more, considering you have to atleast lose something to gain increase in another, which in Kimo's case was power.

Like the Rinnegen awakening mostly losing the power if hypnotisim,MS jutsu and it's predictive and clarity in perception vision(even if I'm wrong, don't correct me, cause I'm trying to give a example nothing more) while gaining other powerful abilities. And the ten tails losing the powers of the other tailed beasts(Yes I know that the Ten tails was the first and orginal one, but in the manga there was something written at it's side saying "Is this Momoshinki's true form?!" so I guess maybe it is his true form gained through absorbtion?

Yes I agree that there may be plot restriction on Momo's side as well Sasuke's side.And it would have been a better show if it was filled with all of them using all of their (except Absorbeble ninjutsu ) techniques, to make it more fitting for the Okutsuki danger.

@Lorenzo. Dude, I'm not saying you're lying or something, but I just noticed that he got himself attacked by a whole variety of ninjutsu, Like the lava attack(if I'm right should be absorbed considering it's made out of chakra) and if you look at it, the only technique Sasuke used, his chidori, was able to take him down nicely. Don't think I'm being bias for that reason, blame the plot if anything.

Um, I also looked up at what you said about Sasuke saying not to use ninjutsu on them, Yeah, turns out(in the manga) even the mention of jutsu absorbtion from Sasuke came after Kinshi was defeated and Sasuke telling everyone how it works for Momo.

And about the Momo and Kinshi being threats part, yeah Sasuke jist veiwed them as some random villains, and so didn't tell Naruto and not in bug deal too. And even then he only found out about them being the 'threat' after reading the scroll to which he tell Naruto by skipping the details that they were the threat he was looking for. As in the scroll it was a warning of the two's attacks. So no he didn't veiw them as the threat he thought them to be or else he wouldn't have shrugged it off by saying "they didn't follow me back".

And honestly, by from what the manga is doing, and from what The Gaiden Sasuke was saying 'it was a ninja' yet Momo and Kinshu weren't ninjas in Naruto's or Sasuke eyes. they were just another okutsuki. I'm not going to say that they weren't the threat but there's also a possibilty. and remember Sasuke only realized they were the said 'threats' after reading the scroll in which there were warning for their attack.

@Lorenzo. I'm not going to syart that debate all over again. Sasuke's chakra power increases when his hatred increases(which by the way was reaching the top by then) And Chakra power is what enhanced a shinobi's physical and jutsu power. So Sasuke being equal to Biju sage Naruto(as well as the fact that he was fighting Madara, which Madara was impressed by his movements with the EMS), So Sasuke was equal to Naruto at speed at that time and after the six paths enhnacement, with his fluent novements,Natural speed and Ameno, he is faster than Naruto at SPSM.

Sage's body goes for life force and large chakra supply, I don't know why you're thinking it goes for speed.

And what do think spirituak energy gives?

Um Might Gai was much faster with training alone and with no sp enhancements, special chakra or prodigious talent. And when Sasuke has all three of it and the fact that he trains hard and get's stronger and faster much quicker than anyone doesn't make sense to you?

These are all my honest opinions.