Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36006024-20180926134241/@comment-26636534-20181024181002

@Blaze

To be honest, I'm not as interested in this debate, simply because it's been a week since your last response. I made a mistake in saying "@combat made most of the points I wanted to say", simply because it leaves the door open for you to twist statements. So, with that in mind let me address what you stated.

BlazeRelease wrote:

What's this talk about the light? Are you that full of yourself that you consider yourself absolutely right, even when I'm pointing the flaws in it? Right back at you, you completely ignored the context, motivations and abilities of Bee at the moment of the fight with Taka. Context: Bee was cooped up in the village and wanted to leave to learn enka. Motivations: Bee did not have killing intent, he was indifferent to taka, and even attempted to leave the fight before karin sensed him. Abilities: I don't even know why I have to say this, but it is clear that Bee can make tentacle substitutions by himself. So saying he needs Sasuke to do it is not true.

BlazeRelease wrote: Motivations: Bee:First defeating Taka, his motivation changed to escaping and faking himself being caught as soon as the Amaterasu appeared. If you deny that, then you're going against the Manga again.

False, since as I mentioned above, he tried to leave the fight before that. Please provide proof that his motivation changed at that point, since you are so sure. I've provided mine.

BlazeRelease wrote: Taka: Capturing B. Surving against B.

Abilities: Taka: An unrecovered and held back Sasuke with a swordsman and CM user, who are also holding back and lack immensely in info.

B: Healing, experience, and the clear advantage in location and having the freedom of going all out against Tama. Except Taka, didn't capture Bee, they were fooled with a tentacle substitution, why do you continue to play that off as something impressive for taka?

Yes, the whole point of the mission for taka was to capture Bee alive, did you forget lol? Bee is a jinchuriki. 4 on 1 against Bee and you cite that taka was unprepared? Well, that is their fault not Bee's. It is not Bee's advantage that Taka was unprepared, it was taka shooting themselves in the foot. Once again, your argument falls apart for that because Bee was also unprepared, and outnumbered.

It actually goes in Bee's favor since he did all that without intel (for four members of Taka), that is impressive.

BlazeRelease wrote: Outcomes: Taka failed in mission, yet survived against the Eight Tails Jinchuriki without prior info or a stable state in the beginning.

Bee escaped, which for you gives a win? Then I guess Madara won against Hashirama long ago since he came back alive leaving the clone for Hashi.

Lol, I'll say it again, Bee tried to leave once, but was sensed by Karin. His motive was to escape and learn enka. He achieved the outcome he wanted. Lol, citing Madara and Hashirama now? (Sigh), you really trying every trick in the book. Yes Hashirama won, and Madara lost, but Madara didn't achieve the desired outcome. He wanted to beat Hashirama, but obviously failed.

Bee had no such desires, and it's laughable that you tried to compare the two instances.

BlazeRelease wrote:

You agreed to Combat and denied the fact that B escaped Taka and declared that as a win. You stated that Taka's lack of info and intent and Sasuke's unrecovered not being an influence in the battle, when it was hinted over it. It doesn't just go beyond the Manga but even against Logic. Like come on?

Hahahahaha.

Wow. When have I denied that Bee escaped lol? Now I am convinced that you don't want to have a real debate, resorting to such false accusations. Lack of intel? That argument favors Bee not Sasuke. Logic is not on your side, and definitely not the manga. As @Combat says, I accept your concession. You have failed to provide a statement of mine that is incorrect, with a manga chapter that states the truth.

So, yes you are projecting your actions on me, and immature for doing so.