Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-38812954-20190831032416/@comment-38812954-20190919192956

"The evidence from the series doesn't support your theories."

It does. You just want to remain blind to it and not accept it.

"Factual thinkers are a**holes? That's a broad and grossly over-generalizing statement."

They are a narcissistic lot

"Your technique is poorly conceived because you ignore Sasuke's chakra restrictions, Naruto's ridiculous advantage in chakra and stamina, and the properties of Amaterasu."

Sigh man

"Seeing both sides of a story doesn't mean you agree with both sides. For example, if a girl cheated on her girlfriend, that's bad. But maybe on the girl's side of the story, the boyfriend doesn't give her attention and is generally condescending to her. That's also bad. You can have empathy for the girl, but cheating is still wrong."

Exactly, empathizing

"And again, since you didn't actually address the statement, "Empathy" doesn't mean "deep thinker" or "less opinionated."

But those are qualities of being empathetic. If I see you being bad at a certain skill, I have enough empathy, deep thought and understanding to know that, you can get better with practice. And not just be opinionated and superficial and see it as a fact that you would never get any better at what you're trying to do.

"I haven't neglected all your points, I've been responding to them. It doesn't matter that Sasuke has half of Hagormo's chakra, because Naruto has the same boost. Change in chakra form didn't help much against the Ten Tails."

Again you neglect my point, "If both of them are equal in power but not chakra or stamina and the other is getting ready to fire an attack with a great extent of his own power briefly. While the other is only using a small fragment of his own power (the tailed beast bomb at the mouth) in a condition or situation where he doesn't have the time to buff up his Chakra (to match the extent of power that is going to be released by his foe). Who do you think reigns victorious in this scenario? One is exerting more power than the other in that scenario. Rendering them momentarily unequal in that scenario, as equals. As I will say again. If the susanoo were hit by an undisrupted attack by a tailed beast bomb it would be shattered. Just like how there would be an effect on naruto's kurama avatar in this portrayed scenario." see how your facts are just putting us in an infinite loop. This is for your last sentence,"Sasuke's flame control sword cut a ten tails body wall in half (made by some of its body creations). I'm saying this to say that change in chakra form worsens or amplifies the effects of the amaterasu (or any jutsu for the matter) So the jutsu I invented for sasuke, that applies change in chakra form would work. Sasuke's flames also burned quickly through shins metal knives or tools that hit Sakura. And also look at how intensely sasuke's amaterasu hit juubito's spinning black rod. Imagine it now being fired the way I described. Dude the jutsu can work. Deeper insight makes you see things that you wouldn't really see. Regarding things that you have already seen but managing to see other things because of what you saw. Hence with you believing that sasuke can't put the necessary force behind the attack I invented for him, disregarding the significant power boost he got. Only going by what you saw. With how amaterasu burns (which you are totally wrong with) and the amount of force he has put behind any attack with amaterasu. With the power he has he should be able to do it."

"You didn't actually consider my points. You took my points and said "yes, I see these points" but then said Naruto wouldn't have time to buff his chakra, with zero evidence to back it up. You have absolutely no indication that Naruto, one of if not the fastest Shinobi in the series, who's also the absolute best sensor in the series, wouldn't be able to defend. Toad SM, which is way inferior to SPSM, let him dodge and react to the Third Raikage."

That's considering it, then showing you where it's not accurate. And as I will ask again. How exactly would he dodge it? In tailed beast state heading directly towards an attack he wouldn't be expecting. And unlike madara's light fang it's wide spread and large scale (an almighty push of black flames). And even if he senses amaterasu coming. Which doesn't really make sense in a scenario where he would see it spam on sasukes CBS hand. He would think that sasuke is going to use an amaterasu style lightning blade. I'll go again. In the scenario, used from the actual fight, Sasuke darts first (I watched it again) then Naruto jumps. Instead of spamming the lightning blade he spams black flames over his susanoo hand. Camera goes on naruto approaching. Camera shot moves back to Sasuke approaching. As soon as Sasuke feels he's in range, he fires it. Tell me. With Naruto thinking that sasuke is about to use a black flame lightning blade and is not going to use a large scale attack, How would he dodge? Where is the time present to him to buff up his Chakra? Where is his time to block? Where is his time to amplify the tailed beast bomb? Please tell me. You can't. Disintegration happens. Stomach portion hind legs. Naruto drops chakra, sasuke moves in and kills Naruto.

"Amaterasu builds up chakra in the eye to the point where Juubito said that his attack was useless since he could sense it coming. How is Naruto not going to sense an even more massive build up of chakra and react in time?"

He spams the flames on his complete body susanoo left hand. Please see response above^

"obviousness" is not evidence. People thought it was obvious that Naruto's skin glowed in his new form from Hagoromo when the chapter debuted. People thought it was obvious that Sasuke's new eye was red when it came out. Both were wrong."

Obviousness is evidence in this scenario. Those are totally different stories. Please see my response above^^

"You're right, it's not Madara's lightfang. Madara's light fang is faster and actually difficult to see coming and dodge."

Yep, just like my scenario.

"If Sasuke doesn't use all his chakra, he won't get close to burning through all of Naruto's chakra. And the attack wouldn't have the same effect as the Tailed Beast Bomb because Sasuke doesn't have the chakra to make a beam similar to that powerful enough to burn all the way through Kurama's Avatar. Also I though you said the technique would be widespread? How is it a laserbeam and widespread at the same time?"

If sasuke uses a great extent of his own chakra but not all. The force behind it would disintegrate naruto's kyuubi chakra avatar (Not all of it. Stomach portion. Hind leg). Considering all my examples and research. Go and watch the attack. Yeah it was shot out something like a laser beam at first but changed as it went. But sasuke's attack would be more like the effect the bomb had, as it hit the rashomon. If only I knew how to attach pictures. Go watch it and see what I mean. If you care that is. 4 tails vs Orochimaru.

"Also if Obito didn't have Kamui, he'd use Izanagi."

And if he had neither of those he'd be burned as I said.

"Crippled and not in control of his mind matters because even in this much slower state, he dispelled Amaterasu before much damage occurred. And like you said, without Rinnegan he'd eventually burn away."

You're talking as if physical application was needed for that. All he had to do was will the rinnegan to do it. And his mind was being controlled to obey a specific will. He had no control but still had control being will oriented (meaning he had no control over not wanting to harm Naruto and company. But he had control over what jutsu to pull off or what decisions to make under a certain will or instruction). And even if he didn't have control, it's like your saying that if you were walking with you're grandparent and they were about to fall. You wouldn't catch them swiftly. Kabuto reacted swiftly. It still burned a good portion of him before he did that though (absorb the black flames). Amaterasu is not as slow as you claim. You just underestimate it.

"Yes, the portion of the Ten Tails that got hit was burning. Glad you saw that too. But even with the insane cutting power and force of Ultra Big Ball Rasenshuriken powering Amaterasu, it couldn't even damage much of it or go through it."

The thing got disintegrated, we only saw effects of the amaterasu.

"So essentially, you're worried about what happens after your made-up scenarios, whereas I'm more concerned with if your scenarios would even be able to work in the first place. You keep calling me short sighted, but you're just asking me what would happen in a scenario whereas I'm telling you that the foundation of the scenario itself is flawed and wouldn't happen. Sorry you consider that short sighted, but it's not."

So Naruto would be in trouble vs sasuke and the gedo mazo, because of how hesitant you are to answer. I finnaly caught you! I never called you short sighted. You just happened to display it and I caught glimpse of it. This is calling you short sighted,"You're so short sighted. With all the examples I gave you. Shins weapons, sasuke's fireball, how it burned at a jogging pace but still eventually disintegrated it. Sasuke's flame control sword vs the body creations wall and how intense it hit juubito's spinning black rod and how change in chakra form would worsen it considering these examples. Half of Hagoromo's chakra etc. You still believe amaterasu can't be pulled off like that? And would be deadly vs naruto's kurama avatar in that scenario?"