Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36632842-20180818184904/@comment-34194151-20180921212646

@BlazeRelease,

You are right, everyone can see the comments. And you keep saying that the sharingan can see through decoys as long as it is not a shadow clone, yet I already proved that the sharingan failed to see through a water clone, which isn't a shadow clone at all. Two completely different clone techniques, and the water clone does not divide the users chakra evenly at all. I suggest you reread what I said. Sasuke isn't seeing through kiba's decoys because he won't expect it nor does the sharingan see through all decoys, it already has canonically failed to see through water clones and killer bee's clone.

Kiba has shown speed feats. Keeping up with Curse mark 2 sakon is one of them. There is no baseline to compare kiba 's speed directly to sasuke's except for the fact that sakon easily countered sasuke's curse mark lion barrage. Rescure arc kiba clearly is much faster than anything he has shown in the chunin exams, kiba went to the gym. kiba can at least react to sasuke, which is all that really matters.

This is not true at all. I don't know what schools you have been to, but we all learned about Adolf Hitler, one of the most evil leaders in history in real life, when I was like 8 years old. so that isn't a valid argument. Madara uchiha was still important enough to have a giant statue built of him. Sasuke should know who he is because he is an uchiha and he was said to love his clan. You know things about people you love and care about, which includes their recent past and important figures.

And lol no. Itachi reacted to kirin. He knew it was coming because sasuke was monolouging. But he didn't actually react to the jutsu until the lightning started coming down. That's like saying kakashi didn't react to sasuke's susano'o arrow with kamui mid-flight because he saw sasuke loading the arrow beforehand. Itachi clearly reacted with susano'o after the bolt was released, otherwise sasuke would have seen susano'o and not be surprised when he sees it after itachi gets back up. And you still missed the point.the fact that a character like Minato exists proves that there is at least one character capable of reacting to sasuke's trump card, meaning sasuke didn't properly plan. He should have known that it was possible if he actually did proper research into his clan. He clearly did 0 research lol. If outsiders like Danzo can gain this information than so can sasuke, he had the opporunties. Kisihmoto is teaching you that sasuke isn't as bright as you seem to think he is. You can say it's plot but it's only plot if you can prove that sasuke knew about his clan's history, and it's been shown multiple times that he hasn't, so it isn't a plot hole.

Sasuke could have just ran circles around the retrieval team until he finalized a new plan. Itachi wasn't going anywhere. How many times has itachi told sasuke to seek him out. how many times has he told sasuke to come and challenge him once he gained more power. And then itachi sent a crow clone and told sasuke where to find him. Sasuke was simply impatient.

The difference with shikamaru is that he didn't overextend his hand. He didn't put ALL his chakra into the final trap against Hidan. Because of this, if hidan broke free shikamaru might have been caught off guard but he would still be fine because he had chakra left and backup was on the way. Sasuke didn't have any of that going for him because of his pride. He wanted his battle with itachi to be 1v1.