User talk:Dantman

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i think this site should be open to edit cuz you dont know what some people have to offer for narutopedia just like me cuz i basically know more then everyone here

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Jutsu Infobox
What needs to be done to the jutsu infobox for it to be ready for implementation? Also, is it gonna be manual edits or bot replacing info? Simant (talk) 06:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the first problem i notice is that under type there is only the ability to select one option, whereas i have seen jutsu with defensive and offensive. Simant (talk) 06:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the problem with the range is that it is doing the array map first then the switch. So is the arraymap is just there untill the switch starts to work? so the problem is getting the variable into the switch statement? Simant (talk) 09:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * its working ok.. i just am still seeing the extra commas in front of it and not the text changing to "short to mid". is it my cache or something? Simant (talk) 09:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Another issue is that there appears to only be space for one parent jutsu, when some game jutsu's and harem technique have multiple parents, shadow clone and transformation. Simant (talk) 02:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

And when the infobox is being used in a artical, the "Shippūden" section code is written without the line over u, making all jutsus first appear in Shippūden. Jacce | Talk 16:44, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

You are probably right, all I meant was that when not choosing "Debuted in Shippuden", the box still said that it first appeared in Shippuden. Jacce | Talk 18:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Something bugged up somewhere.. causing justu range after being inputted to be listed as uses kekkai genkai after using the formedit.Simant (talk) 21:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Article of the month/week
Hi. I dunno if it is ok to compare with other Wikies, but I'll take my chances and do it. On Bleach wiki, on their main page they have an Article of the Month (which we could turn into article of the week or smth) for characters (but we could do it for jutsu, places etc as well). I dunno how the system works to create such a thing, but it would be nice to have it for newcomers who do not know what to search for first. - MadaraU (talk) 07:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that you mentioned it, the random page feature does kind of render the article of the week feature useless. Thanks for the quick reply. - MadaraU (talk) 08:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The Chap Is Out
Can we unlock the Fifth Mizukage article now?Saimaroimaru (talk) 07:27, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Thanks for the info :) I like the jutsu icons that are on the new infobox, but i don't like them actually being in the info box. looks kind of weird to have all text in the infobox (other than the pic) and then have the release type icon and have it increasing the height of that row.  Just a suggestion.

Missing image
I know that the character infobox is tagged synced across multiple wikia; but I was wondering anyways if we could add the same Maintenance: Missing image tags to it like we have for the jutsu and episode infobox; Also perhaps a maintenance for missing translations to help ShounenSuki‎ (and others?) out. Simant (talk) 18:28, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

O-Parts Hunter Wiki
Is there in discussion a wiki for 666 Satan (O-Parts Hunter) Manga? I am asking it because I know you are not resuming solely to Narutopedia and I've seen on your info page that you are currently reading it. - MadaraU (talk) 20:36, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is referred to as 666 Satan in Japan because the story pretty much revolves around this dude:)) I would never read the english volumes because judging from the very name of the manga (in the english version), it is heavily censored. Then again... I cannot read the Raw manga because I am no jap speaker/reader. I was left with only one option: to read the scanlations... AND BOY WAS THAT HARD!!! (read further to see why) You asked me if I would be interested in editing it. Hell yeah I would be, but having only the scanlations at my disposal would not make it a professional work (SOME SCANLATIONS ARE SO BAD that I am still wondering if I caught the full spirit of the manga - which is awesome by the way). If we were to be more who would work on the project (some of which could read raws as well) then something good (like Narutopedia) would come out of it. Anyways, if we were to revive the 666 Satan (Yes I would prefer this name more:P) Wiki we would have to correspond through mails or yahoo messenger (the talk style on wiki is mendokusai :) ) BTW I have not understood the last part of your message: B. Ichi. (is it a crypted reference to Bleach :)) ? ). - MadaraU (talk) 06:58, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll see what I can do. - MadaraU (talk) 07:55, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am waiting on you then. - MadaraU (talk) 08:57, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Good Job. I'll try to make an article for Jio once I get home from work. - MadaraU (talk) 15:43, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler Warning message
Just wondering since it seems out of place, did you want the spoiler warning to appear here on Special:SpecialPages? Simant (talk) 19:42, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Spoiler warning though should appear on this specialpage. Special:CreatePage :\ Simant (talk) 05:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Rollback
Hmm, I've seen you on a couple of other Wikis before, so I'll direct my questions to you. Is there a list of administrators and policies on this Wiki? Also, isn't rollback meant solely for the reverting of vandalism and not a tool to make quick edits? Thanks. Calebchiam Talk 07:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a process to select administrators? I noticed that Charitwo (a user that I know) is a sysop with 189 edits. Also, are there any behavioural policies, like a user treatment policy of sorts? I hope I'm not annoying you with all these questions ^^. Calebchiam Talk 07:21, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mm, that makes sense. Probably cuts down on a lot of the Wikidrama as well. Calebchiam Talk 10:09, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Logo
Hi. I am Kalit - admin polish Narutopedi and I have a question. Can I use Your logo the site ?

PS. My English is very bad ;]

Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms
Hello Dantman,

I am Ten Tailed Fox (talk), a regular visitor to this wiki, as well as an administrator on both Naruto Fanon Wiki and Bleach Fan Fiction Wiki. I have just sent a request to Wikia to ask them to activate Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms, so that we can set up a template, similar to how you here at Naruto Wiki did with your jutsu. The staff I spoke to at Wikia referred me to you. Can you possibly explain to me how to set up both Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms?

Thank you for your time,

Ten Tailed Fox (talk) 21:49, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will contact you if I have any questions. Ten Tailed Fox (talk) 17:04, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Akatsuki memebers' rings
I noticed that in the jutsu infobox the elemental natures' icons were scaled enough to be put inside the infobox. I was wondering if such a thing could be done with the Akatsuki rings and be put for each member inside their character box (or how it is called). I am guessing that first of all the pictures of the rings (or just the kanji on a circle colored with the color of the respective ring) ought to be drawn. Then again it could be said that it is not that important seeing as only a handful of people wore such rings, most of the ones who wore them are dead while the rings are not worn by anyone anymore, but then again the rings are an important part of what Akatsuki is (otherwise Zetsu would not have been sent to recover them). Perhaps the rings will play a bigger role in the future. Waiting on your opinion on this, Dantman. - MadaraU (talk) 06:41, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, tks for the answer. If only I'd had more time, I would draw the svg's myself :-< - MadaraU (talk) 09:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu media
I modified the Template:Infobox/Jutsu so that if there is a debut in anime/manga, it will list it as jutsu media in that field. Now since semantics seems to need to be updated manually for each page, I was hoping you could send a bot to do null edits to all the jutsu pages, so they would update. Simant (talk) 01:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * *shrug* I just didn't see any cases where that wouldn't be true; Unless someone knows it debuted in anime and forgot which episode. But I guess we can go through and manually tag them all... Simant (talk) 02:26, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
Our wikia has received the upgrades, but we still need a working infobox to go with it. I tried to replicate the one that is used here, however, for some reason it would not work. I need your assistance in creating a working, character and jutsu infobox that will work with the new upgrade. ~ NOTASTAFF Ryun Uchiha (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou) (talk) 02:37, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hahaha I know what you mean. Thank you for the link. ~ NOTASTAFF Ryun Uchiha (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou) (talk) 15:04, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Volumes
Converting Volumes to be semantic compatible. see Template:Infobox/Naruto/Volume and Form:Volume, do changes as you see fit. Simant (talk) 02:15, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking of creating a new property:Volume number, but why not just change Property:Episode number -> Property:Release number, and have it work for both. Simant (talk) 15:56, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * K, then should I just create the new property:Volume number? or deal with it later. Simant (talk) 16:00, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * !! giving me issues on Hokage vs. Hokage!!, not displaying one of the !, and nowiki gives me more problems... probably because #set:&lt;nowiki&gt; ... Simant (talk) 17:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Snapper2
I dont like him, good job deleting him.

Ninja rank
"This is getting tiresome, Village Head was never stated to be a Ninja Rank" -It is a rank, that ninja from multiple villages have. Is it necessary for it to be on a chart to include when we have multiple examples of it? It makes sense to be there. ZeroSD (talk) 10:48, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know...
...i only said what i said because he harassed my friend by calling her a coward. i was making it even.

About the Giant Ram/Bull
I have modified everywhere in the Giant Ram's page to make it correct that it is a Bull, but I cannot correct the title of the page to make it Giant Bull. If you could... thanks. Also at species I've put cattle given that the bull is a male cattle. - MadaraU (talk) 08:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Redirect
I was wondering what you thought about protecting soft redirects, since it breaks the semantic system pretty bad when messed up, at least so only registered users can edit them. Simant (talk) 22:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, it would be nice if Uzumaki Naruto! could be a redirect and have the semantic properties at the same time. since i'm linking the debut's to the episode/manga title in the character infobox. Simant (talk) 23:11, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Primary jutsus
I think the section "primary jutsu" should be added to the characters' info box. I would suggest putting it maybe under the nature manipulation and above the list of known jutsus. I'm suggesting this because in the english manga (maybe also in the japanese) there is sometimes a page at the end with a naruto character on it. This page lists a few facts about the character. I have only read 2 pages like this and the only way I can find them is by buying mangas. I would rather read this info on the internet. So maybe everyone with a copy of any english naruto manga with a character fact sheet can contribute to this site.

Zatch Bell Wiki
As one of the main creator of wikis you can understand the importance of reliable information. So Im asking, with your help, I'm wondering if you can get Zatch Bell wiki back up to date.The current admin isnt doing much and so far im appalled at the effort put into the wiki. Being one of my more favored shounen I expected work to be picked up quickly on it.That has yet come to pass, so with your help im hoping we can get something done despite my lack of knowldge on how to use a wiki.

Don't you remember?
I'm the very same 24.161.123.15.I don't have a user name because I can't think of one.How come you or your system keep forgetting who I am?21:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Rasengan
Super Great Ball Rasengan did not appear in the Infobox of the article. Please fix it. Oh and Jacce told me to talk to you. Dekoshu talk contrib 16:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC) I meant on the derived jutsu. Dekoshu talk contrib 20:04, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

question about the caution symbol next to age


how do i get the caution symbol next to deceased? this is my talk page http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi (sorry - - ~ ~ ~ ~ doesn't work)
 * by the new infobox: do u mean this... or another one. Because i like the current infoboxes. And I have been trying to get that model for the longest and when i typed in Template:Infobox ill copy and paste fill in the right parameters and it will look like that.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi
 * that infobox is the new infobox on the new wikis created in late 2008 to current. I think I have an idea. Change my style to Wikipedia. I think that might be able to work. Sadly, my view on Narutopedia will be wikipedia... oh well. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi
 * I meant my wiki... that i'm doing. Narutopedia will always be in its current style the style i like. I'm thinking of using Narutopedia's infoxboxes. But its only a test. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi

Background
How did you get that background on the Wiki?--

Oh Merciful Titans, Launchballer
Please tell me there is a good reason for all those random templates.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:18, November 7, 2009 (UTC) They are required for my burger to function properly.-- 13:32, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. Thank not seeing a reason. Gettin mah axe.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 13:46, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thanks for greeting me to the site. I am a mad fanatic of the Naruto franchise, I can even say I'm addicted to it! It would be a honour to contribute. Narutopedia and are my almost only Naruto information resources (but I gotta confess my favourite is Narutopedia). I'm working on a project at, so if you wanna check out here's the link to my User page:

Spam
Apparently user: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.63.255.139 decided to create some spam on this thinking because he not registered we can't stop him. Here is the junk page he made: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_took_a_dump_on_dadSaimaroimaru (talk) 00:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind it was taken care of.Saimaroimaru (talk) 00:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Opinion
Currently Template:CharacterJutsu, works, but it is a bit messy, opinion, comments, cleaning ideas? Simant (talk) 17:56, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Sorry about the messy animation article - I figured the black background would be a lot easier on the eyes, but I guess it turned out kind of ugly. I'm new to this so I'm not really familiar with much of the code. If you know of a better way to format it than the basic table, I wouldn't mind redoing the whole thing.

Insane111 (talk) 20:58, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Do I have a policy-grounded reason to be annoyed?
If you look at the uploads Xandotablets has done (Special:Contributions/Xandotablets), he has uploaded several anime images over the original manga images instead of uploading them in new files. TheUlitmate3 and I aren't agreeing on the legallity of this (Conversation: User_talk:TheUltimate3, User_talk:Hakinu). Could you give your voice in the matter? Thanks, ~Hakinu (talk 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Basically to chime my reasoning in, I see this case as a loophole in the Policy.


 * Teh Loophole: In the same vain where a Scanlation image is replaced with a RAW image, an manga image can be replaced by a Anime image, as long as that image is exactly the same as the manga image it was replacing.
 * For example: The now defunct picture of Madara Uchiha's Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan image, it was replaced with the direct anime version of the image. Using the above loophole, the image could be changed with no problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:09, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

There's no loophole, that's just wikilawyering. "same image" in the policy refers to the precise same image, there can be no difference in where it came from. The reason that the policy is in place is because MW's history does not keep page text organized with the relevant version of the image. Thus if you upload an image covered under a different fair use rationale it messes up the page history because it's hard to separate what rationale was used for what image. Thus the spirit of the policy is "Don't upload an image over any image unless the images are covered by the exact same rationale."; Thus you can't upload images of different people (voids the description), you can't upload an anime image over a manga image (voids the source), you can't use an image from a chapter/episode/page/scene which is different than the original's (also voids the source). The purpose, resolution, and "replaceable?" fields don't really matter though. So yes, any of Xandotablets re-uploads that upload a anime image over a manga image should be reverted. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 19, 2009 @ 20:08 (UTC)
 * I have another question, for images from episodes, is the fair use rationale valid if the episode number is missing? Simant (talk) 20:46, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you want them to be tagged if they don't have the episode number? is there a template already? Simant (talk) 23:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh so I was Wikilaywering. Hm, I prefer to call it a Loophole >.> Alright then. Let's get er done.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:50, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Request
Several of the users of my Naruto Fanon Wiki would like to use infoboxes like you have for your jutsu and your characters. Is there anyway you would be willing to put it on my wiki, or at least teach me how? I know it's a pain, and I apologize in advance, but it would be a great help to our wiki. Thank you for your time. ~ NOTASTAFF Ryun Uchiha (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou) (talk) 03:32, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oops
Hi, I was told by Simant to ask you about a Navbox for Akatsuki members, I use this wiki for information on akatsuki members alot and i knew it would make it easyer to go from page to page with a navbox. I made and placed a navbox on a few pages but they were deleted by Simant. Like i said, i'm new to this wiki so i dont know how things are done here. Is there some rule against navboxas? If there is I apologize for the mistake. Thanks--Zexion14 (talk) 20:30, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar
Here: MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar; Change: Plot -> Series. Simant (talk) 18:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Duplicate link: Project:Manual of Style|Manual of Style. Simant (talk) 12:53, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Family Tree
How far along the family tree do you want the infobox to list characters relations? Simant (talk) 20:18, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i made the generations for the family tree go from grandparent to grandchild. It still needs to remove duplicate entries, since it displays children from both parents. Also a few bugs still such as displaying a extra line when Hiashi/Hizashi; Also for some reason Neji adds an extra line to the bottom that is a broken link... I might add a function to check the ages between character for younger/older siblings, twins, and such. Also, this family tree, and jutsu need to be sorted, preferably while in string format separated by commas, not sure how to do that on mediawiki, hoping you could tell me how to do the sort. Simant (talk) 01:16, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope can't do that since its set up so they contain multiple queries. Simant (talk) 01:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps install this Sort Extension? Simant (talk) 01:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I suppose i could do it a horribly ugly way by using lots of OR statements in an ask statement. -.- Simant (talk) 02:04, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then again.. I'd probally have to seperate the manga only, anime only, from the normal jutsu list if i did it that way. Is that ok? Simant (talk) 02:06, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Advanced Templates
Um, well i was thinking since we were not going to have any of Species next to Summoning technique since the list would be automatically generated. We needed a space for affinity, and I figured why not use the space system as for media. But That edit was to separate the two, so that the word "only" would not appear when you typed something like Naruto Uzimaki~Toads It would Just show (Toads). Simant (talk) 20:10, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought I suppose it is kinda useless (right now) since we don't need the word "only" in there, but when we do the semantic properties it may be useful to differentiate the two. Simant (talk) 20:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah, okay, got the part about the whitespace. But I'm not sure how to handle the switch without the ifeq statement. Simant (talk) 20:35, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I cleaned it up. Btw, was wondering how we were gonna handle semantic properties of characters that used jutsu in only one media, with other jutsu users in other media. Only way I could think of (without giving myself a headache) was making separate media properties for each user field such as Anime Users::Manga Users:: . and then doing combined searches with ask query. Simant (talk) 03:40, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was wondering if we could have the min/max chapters in a volume displayed like it was here but still using the inline query. I'm guessing you would have to do something with format=template, and stuff, but i'm not sure of the code to return min/max values from the property manga chapters (property not made yet). Simant (talk) 20:03, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure nothing skips in volumes, unlike in anime episodes, they should all be in order. (I would hope at least) ill take a quick look through them all and check, then if so, i'll start changing. Would you mind setting up the form, while im looking? Simant (talk) 21:30, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Do you know of a way to pass a variable such as name through an ask query to the template:sandbox? Simant (talk) 21:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well if thats the case I may have to remove the user property all together to get the search to work, and have them all divided up into Properties such as, User Manga, User Anime, User Movie, User Game. Simant (talk) 01:07, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I can easily move them back, inside the infobox. Is it ok to keep the icons for the hiden jutsu, and the kekkei genkai as well inside the infobox? Simant (talk) 16:51, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, how do you feel about kekkei genkai that are also chakra nature, picture for both, or just one. Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi. Simant (talk) 17:32, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i had an ask query before to eliminate the extra one in the titleicons, but removed it when transfering. Simant (talk) 17:35, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I almost got the infobox jutsu search working for users. User:Simant/Sandbox 2, just gotta get rid of those line breaks, and do a sort, then do same thing that is done on jutsu pages with (anime only) etc. Though i'm not sure how to get rid of the line breaks, or if sort will work with them in there. Simant (talk) 18:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if you had any insight why there are 23 extra non-visible characters in front of the frist, and after the last lines in the code

from Template:Infobox/Naruto/Character, they only display as off (at the beginning) and on (at the end), and only if the code is put into a link. Its kinda serious perturbing... Simant (talk) 18:21, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured it out for some reason there was SMW::off at the front of the text, and SMW::on at the end... now that i know what the exact values are i think i can just trim them off. this is probably a bug that should be reported... Simant (talk) 18:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Quick question why doesn't this:

Return no results. Simant (talk) 00:50, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * So.. any ideas? Clearly I am missing something obvious about the syntax of the above query statement. Also, I decided I am gonna either:
 * A. Do a sort using string functions and switch statement. OR
 * B. Give up on trying to sort. And.
 * 1. Wait till someone makes a php sort that is acceptable. Simant (talk) 20:51, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well uh... first off family. Maybe I overcomplicated it, but I didn't see a simple way to do it with a single ask query. Data from family is set up to come back this way:

Hyuga Elder~Grandfather, Hiashi Hyuga~Father, Hanabi Hyuga~Sister, Hizashi Hyuga~Uncle, Neji Hyuga~Cousin Data from jutsu comes back basically the same way, and since I separated single media specific jutsu users from the user parameter, It can't really be combined easily or possibly at all. Simant (talk) 21:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC) Simant (talk) 21:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I will try to do a bubble sort with two arraymaps using the string function... It would look too ugly if there were sections for only one result. By the way is Extension:ArrayExtension installed? Simant (talk) 21:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * This looks like what needs to be done. Help:ArrayExtension - Alter an Array Simant (talk) 21:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure by what you mean I did something wrong with the way I got the results of a Characters Jutsu/family. Since I couldn't pass variables into the query:

Simant (talk) 18:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) For the Jutsu with one user only in a media, I instead appended the variable to the front of the results. Which makes the two queries separate and unable to do a sort together using the query sort feature.
 * 2) For the families. Did you want me to make a separate property for each relation? Otherwise if only using the parent property, special cases like godfather would have to be handled without the ask query which also can't be sorted using a single query. It could probably be made into a single query if each page had properties for each relationship, but then making it tag (such as Minato Namikaze (Father)) the type of relationship would be difficult if at all possible.

Character Age
I have been wondering why we are listing character age throughout a specify part in the series rather then just their age at debut. I don't think we have any cases of characters who stop aging (chronologically at least; otherwise maybe madara... but doesn't matter). This is disrupting my ability to create Template:CharacterAge, properly. Simant (talk) 22:23, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Ask Query Comparators
Is the ! comparator available on this wiki with the current settings? Simant (talk) 21:08, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, when you have the time/desire, could you show me a working ask query with the ! in it, since apparently the way i'm using it fails to get the results properly. Simant (talk) 01:46, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say this User:Simant/Sandbox 2 is pretty conclusive that the ! operator is disabled. Simant (talk) 16:40, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

OVA Debuts
Should the character infobox place the ova debuts in the anime debut field, or in the other debut field? Simant (talk) 15:27, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu listing
Should the jutsu listing on the character page include stuff like the following bolded information: Exploding Clay (Various Levels), Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet (With Gamabunta; Anime only)? Simant (talk) 23:41, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Family Tree - Both Parents Checking - Half-Siblings
I'm trying to do a query with the parents, so it checks children from both parents, so that siblings can be marked as "half-siblings." The problem is, with the duplicates in the family from both parents, I don't know how to remove them without using a counter variable, which I have no idea how to create/change in mediawiki syntax. Any ideas/help would be appreciated. Simant (talk) 21:49, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Figured out a way to remove duplicate info in an array using #arraysearch, and #arraydefine, but they are also both part of Extension:ArrayExtension which you didn't like..., but with that installed the infobox would be complete... Simant (talk) 02:14, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

hello
hi dantman i like your work hers some of mine. [][book ]

Edit
Way can't we edit certain pages
 * I can take care of this. Jacce | Talk 05:56, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Bots
Might it be possible for you to explain to me how to use a bot, so that next time I see the need to change a lot of names or links, I don't have to do it manually? --ShounenSuki (talk 20:02, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * My apologies for anything I may have done wrong. Could you tell me how I might get such an account? --ShounenSuki (talk 15:20, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * So I take it I could just create a new account and ask you to give it a bot flag? --ShounenSuki (talk 12:40, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Two new categories in the character infobox
What do you think about two new categories named Master(or Sensei) and Apprentice for each character? The student-teacher relationship is one of the most important in this story therefore these two categories could be added under the family category or something in order to better illustrate these ties which in the Narutoverse are just as important as family ties ( if not more important :D ). And if a character had more than one teacher (like Naruto) we can add them all just as we can add all the students each character had (if the respective teacher had any). - MadaraU (talk) 19:02, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

thank you
Thank you I will try my best to help you guys out all that i can.

Please stop users that are just vandalizing
Please correct the informations on the page Killa Ē. Thank You
 * He is talking about the info ShounenSuki got from the newly released fanbook (number 2). Jacce | Talk 06:19, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blacklist?
Is there something that can be done to prevent the creation of articles like this? This bit of spam has been created a dozen times within the last month, always under a different title and by a completely different IP. The content itself is basically the same each time, with numbers and the email address being the only obvious differences. Can Russian (?) titles be forbidden? Or "@mail.ru" be disallowed? ~SnapperTo 05:22, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Episode Infobox
May i add this Watch Online to the episode infobox? Simant (talk) 23:35, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * <nowiki*Sigh* it worked for high numbers and low numbers... but not in between, I guess i'll copy down the addresses individually and make an ugly switch statement, and then try to shrink it; Or i could just use, http://www.crunchyroll.com/search?q= and let users have two clicks... Simant (talk) 18:46, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Why and when did you delete Snapper2
?????

Permanent Resignation
Hello Dantman, it's been a while. What I'm about to write to you will be my last series of inquiries (and quite frankly, my last series of edits) as I've decided to resign from this wiki for good; I just couldn't see any future for me to continue working here. No offense, but I just couldn't stand seeing the numerous inconsistent Naruto facts found in the site (as a result of numerous faulty decisions made by the community). What's more, I've had my fair share of experiencing injustices done to me (i.e. having my contributed images deleted - despite them being in accordance to the wiki's rules), leading me to conclude that this wiki isn't just for me (despite Naruto being my favorite anime). So for the last time, I'm asking your help: How do I unsubscribe from this wiki (if possible)? This might be saddening for you, but I've completely made up my mind. I hope you could understand and help me out on this final plea.--Ethelion (talk) 04:31, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Special:MyHome
You probably should try to find a way to disable wikia stickies, it really isn't helping maintain our image policy. Simant (talk) 17:59, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Torune
Dantman-sama Why cant i edit Torunes page/article --I work for Foundation (talk) 20:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Sorry
I know that now. I´m sorry if i have been a bother.--Torune (talk) 18:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Template talk: *poke*
Template talk:ArchiveList, Template talk:Infobox/Naruto/Character. Simant (talk) 15:28, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments? Simant (talk) 23:12, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Nine Tailed abilities should not be listed as techniques
Hey Dantman I just wanted to tell you that I think the Nine tails techniques that are listed in naruto's jutsu list should not be there because they are not connsistent techniques and they take up to much space. I propose you move there information to anouther technique like {Nine-Tailed Transformations} as added information.

Pterry08 {talk} 6:46, December 22, 2009 {UTC}


 * I would like to point out Dant, I told Pterry they are pretty consintent to what is mentioned in the articles (Red Chakra Arms are red chakra arms, Sonic Roar is a roar that crates a shockwave, ect). I've also told him that we list techniques as they are used and moving them for no reason is not necessary.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:54, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

file links
How do you make a newly uploaded image linked to an article? --Sam B 19:42, December 23, 2009 (UTC)WhiteArmor
 * I can take this :3 ~Hakinu (talk 21:11, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Jiraiya / Fire Release : Great Fireball Technique
I hope there's no problem in adding Great fireball technique to jiraiya's jutsu and add jiraiya as a user of this jutsu because, when he performs , together with gamabunta , the toad oil flame bullet , he used great fireball to ignite the oil , as you can see by the seals he performs , that are the FR: Great Fireball's seals. ;)

Frustrating bug (don't know if it actually is that, but it seems like that)
Hai! The problem (bug) is on reverting. Mostly reverting article edits goes smoothly, but sometimes it says I don't have the premissions. The problem is more frequent when I try to revert on images. It pretends to have reverted, but it doesn't! I can see the possibility of just being the cache problem, but then why would there be need for someone else reverting it aswell? It's been going on for quite a while, and I didn't want to bother you with it, thinking it would pass/be fixed overnight. But it didn't..! Any ideas? :3 ~Hakinu (talk 00:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit: This is an example of my revert seeming to be registred (it's also registred in the |article history.), but if you look at |the file history, you see that it was ShounenSuki who reverted the image, a minute later than me, according to the article history :\ ~Hakinu (talk 00:51, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Aw! Bunny, why didn't I think of that.. ~slaps self with her whacking plank~ Thanks :3 ~Hakinu (talk 23:46, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Range block
Dantman, can you make a range block for 220.255.7.xxx? There have been loads of vandalism coming from IP addresses like that, check the blocklogs and you'll see 10 or more IPs like that doing nothing but vandalism. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:28, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anything that does anything against it. BTW, a fourth IP was used. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:11, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Fifth (220.255.7.232) and sixth (220.255.7.132) as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:54, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

220.255.7.169, 220.255.7.162 are seventh and eighth, from what I could dig up, our friend is an Aussie. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:55, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

220.255.7.115. Ninth. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:44, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

A couple came back, just letting you know. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:24, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Two new IPs from that range showed up again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:01, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Property:User tech
Something is wrong with the "Property:User tech". When pressing the magnifying glass next to the characters name (for example Sakura Haruno), the name is changed to either Sakura Haruno; * or Sakura Haruno; ?, and few or no other techniques is found. Jacce | Talk 06:47, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Chapters
Is Template:ChapterList okay, or do you want the information stored differently? Simant (talk) 02:41, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I was hoping to put the character infobox on an actual page soon for testing, maybe one of the Three Ryūdōin Brothers, since they have siblings and a parent, along with jutsu. Simant (talk) 06:25, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

That would require making separate pages for each chapter which would also still have to be manually updated. We probably won't have a lot of content on each of those chapter pages. I was thinking of including the chapter title as part of the semantic properties of the volume that it is in. Then do something like   Simant (talk) 03:13, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case you want it like this except with content and an infobox instead of a soft redirect. Simant (talk) 18:46, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, just wanna mention, that using the current Template:FamilyTree, it requires a edit after adding the parents for it to show them, since the parent properties need to be set first... Simant (talk) 19:00, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Jinchūriki Transformations
They aren't gonna show up on the jutsu list if we keep them in the Tailed Beast category. Simant (talk) 06:44, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Same issue with, Orochimaru's Juinjutsu wearers. Simant (talk) 19:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC); Edit: Scratch that, it was just some bad linking i was looking at, and forgot they had separate pages for each curse seal. 21:44, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jan 4, 2010 @ 20:41 (UTC)

Archive Feature
Hello Dantman, I go by Minato. I am an Admin on another Wikia and was wondering about something I noticed on this Wikia. U guys have the Archive Feature Built in the Taskpane, i.e it is on the bar where the History, Edit The Page, Move, Features r. I decided to ask u, since u have the highest edit-count as to how u were able to do this? So could u help me out or provide a link explaining how to do this? Thank u. Minato  (Talk)  21:42, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thank u for such a quick response and for the info. Minato (Talk)  21:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Family
I think Gaara and his family are the only ones that have both parents known, and multiple siblings, perhaps just check one parents children and skip the other parent? Kishimoto apparently doesn't like to make half-siblings... Simant (talk) 21:44, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Character infoboxes update
I'm not sure if there is a forum where I can bring this up, and I was told this was a change we were implementing. From what I can understand, we're making changes on how character infoboxes are handled. Among these changes, some things, such as loyalty, kekkei genkai and chakra natures are going to the infoboxes. However, it seems that once the chakra nature is removed from the ninja icon template, a character is no longer listed as having that nature. Any idea if it is a bug or something yet to be fixed? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed above issue. Also, look at Category:Character infoboxes. Simant (talk) 19:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

UNABLE TO REGISTER!!
I am a common user of the wiki and is unable to register.HELP!

W

Capitalisation of "Path"
Some time ago, you seem to have decided that the path in, for instance, Deva Path shouldn't be capitalised, as you didn't consider it a proper noun.

I would like to ask you to reconsider this decision. The names of the individual Paths of Pain are proper nouns. The path is an integral part of their names and should be treated as such, which includes capitalising them. It is the same reason why the emperor in the posthumous names of the emperors of Japan are capitalised as well. You cannot call the Meiji Emperor only. He is always the. The same goes for the Paths of Pain: you cannot call the Deva Path. He is always.

The path is an integral part of the name of the bodies and should be capitalised as such. --ShounenSuki (talk 20:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, path shouldn't just be capitalised indiscriminately. When on its own, used not as a proper noun, but as a descriptive noun, it should not be capitalised. For example, take the following sentences: "The Deva Path is one of the Six Paths of Pain. This path has the ability to control gravitational and repulsive forces."
 * Also, I am all for title case. I get annoyed every time I see the word arc without a capital A in (sub)titles... --ShounenSuki (talk 18:04, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

?
Are you the person in charge of running this Wikia?

Editing User:Simant/Sandbox
"To prevent abuse you are not allowed to create userpages that are not your own." I think there is a slight snag in the abuse filter. Simant (talk) 03:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

delection
there is a page about ultimate ninja heroes 3 and one about accel, can you pease delete it?? Link [] The ultimate fan of NARUTO welimer2 16:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Expensive Parser functions
Would it be possible to temporally bypass the expensive parser function limit, and the query limit on this page. It would help with converting infoboxes. Simant (talk) 17:27, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to test if another page has a template transcluded in it? I ask for something like testing if a page is using the template:Infobox/Naruto/Character. Simant (talk) 00:45, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blood Type
Any issue with moving Hayate Gekkō's info about being RH- to trivia? Simant (talk) 04:56, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted my home page?
Hi, why'd u delete my home page? Shirou Miurra (talk) 23:06, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Your Input is Required
Dantman, would you be so kind as to give your input on the matter at hand in this conversation? It is about a matter we already discussed once before, but which ended in a not too desirable solution: the handling of the ANBU rank in character infoboxes. --ShounenSuki (talk 03:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Dantman? *poke poke* --ShounenSuki (talk 13:09, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not 100% sure what you mean by separate rows for Ranks of: "Ninja, ANBU, Samurai, etc." I was thinking that ANBU should be merged with Ninja, as for doing a query on ranks, we could try to find a way to set ANBU to a NULL value when being searched. For Samurai, there are no rank "subcategories," So it would be kinda weird to have a box with a title, Samurai Rank: Samurai. Simant (talk) 18:54, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * On a side note, almost done with conversion of characters just a few oddballs left. Teuchi and ayame have debuts that are databook, should that be moved to trivia and then put manga chapter? Unnamed ANBU Captain has multiple characters packed into one. And about 6 other characters like Shura have jutsu/tools that aren't created yet. Also, I feel kinda weird putting Awakened Hinata in a character infobox. Simant (talk) 18:02, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, i am slightly confused with what is going on with apostrophes in properties. Before they needed to be converted to their ascii code, but now they don't... was there an update? Simant (talk) 23:53, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Spam/vandalism filters
Something is off with them. When I tried to undo several revisions that an IP made, which made Sasuke's page look quite outdated, through editing and saving an old revision (I couldn't rollback because someone else had edited the page), the filter kicked in and said that it picked up vandal things in the articles, namely obscene language and vulgarity. I found it odd and when I tried to save it, I'd end up in a loop page asking me if I was sure I wanted to save that edit. I had to copy and paste parts of an old revision, making about five edits to the page so I could restore it to its last good version. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:15, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * And as it turned out, I can't edit semi-protected articles because of this bug. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:45, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wind Release.
I have notice in the manga, most of the Wind Release jutsu has the Dog Hand Seal affiliated with it. Could you please put this in the Wind Release and Hand Seals articles? Thanks. Naruto 45 (talk) 18:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Air Gear
I noticed that the Air Gear Wiki's Suck-Level is a firm 10 out of 10, does anyone even work there? Sam B 00:55, January 24, 2010 (UTC)WhiteArmor

Name changes
I was wondering, could you please tell me if this discussion gives enough grounds to changes Ē's name to A, Shī's name to C, etcetera? --ShounenSuki (talk 08:47, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Following the style
If an image is posted in an article without being given the required legal things, we allow ourselves to remove it from the article until it's properly tagged/deleted. Now, I do understand this is for legal reasons, but do you think there should be a similar solution to the whole problem with people not signing their messages? ~Hakinu (talk 23:26, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, a signbot sounds neat. But annoying them by poking them with forks does too. ~Hakinu (talk 17:39, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Forum:Community call, macron change
I was wondering if you could tell me what the current status of this discussion is. It seems to have died again, but if I'm not mistaken, you put up a poll not too long ago. Do you have any results from that?

There is also the matter of this discussion. It seems to have died as well, although I think you could also simply call it finished. Should the Ē article remain as it is, or is it all right to move it to A? (The same goes for articles like Jei and Shī, of course)

I hope I'm not bothering you, but I'm a bit hesitant to draw conclusions myself. After all, the last time I did that caused some controversy. --ShounenSuki (talk 12:53, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

SMW caching on Naruto
Hey Dantman!

I'm trying to locate the heaviest Semantic queries on Narutopedia in order to later convert them into Concepts, that can be cached properly. Currently Narutopedia is one of the heaviest hitters when it comes to consumed DB time, which should really not be the case. Plus, caching will make the wiki considerably faster.

If you could point me to any of the more complex queries on this wiki, I'd be much obliged.

Also planning to ask admins on community portal in a sec, but I'm sure you'd be the best man to help with this, so it would be great if you could chip in!

--TOR 23:25, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Another issue, (though I don't think its an SMW caching issue) is using the normal search. When I try to search for ramen bar and then I click the Ichiraku Ramen Bar link it redirects me to kingdomhearts wikia. I can only guess there was some revision that redirected there. Simant (talk) 01:13, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Bots & Macrons
Would you know how to deal with macrons while using a bot? I can't get the bot to recognise them >< --ShounenSuki (talk 11:59, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Question that probably can be answered by reading the policy or history, left unsigned <_< Bsh.
dude why did u delete my post

i apologize i should have read closer

Music
I thought it might be good if someone added videos for the songs in the music section. Sam B 02:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)WhiteArmor

Plot of Naruto
Hey, i doubt you remember, but wayyyyy back in December of 2007, i basically rewrote the entire "plot of naruto" to be what it is now. (before all it had was a poor summary of the events up to the chunin exam) as well as all of Naruto Shippuuden up till that point. You were the first person to start inserting hyperlinks into the new summary I created. I have recently begun to try and take an active role in the upkeep of this wiki. I was wondering if i could get some kind of mention on my user page about that enormous contribution. I realize this sounds kind of selfish, but i have no idea how to do any hardcore wiki editing, so i can't really do anything for my user page by myself.Paulthegreat103 (talk) 05:26, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sakumo Hatake
What happened to the picture of Sakumo from the back?. Sam B 10:02, February 8, 2010 (UTC)WhiteArmor

Wikianswers Anime Widget
Hi Dantman,

Due to recent changes, the Wikianswers widget now sends questions to Wikianswers Anime rather Wikianswers. Can you change the following pages accordingly, so they redirect to Wikianswers Anime rather than Wikianswers:

MediaWiki:Answers widget user note, MediaWiki:Answers widget anon note and MediaWiki:Answers widget admin note Find questions about Naruto on Wikianswers Anime.

MediaWiki:Ask a question Ask a Naruto question

Thanks... ~ Akadirgun (userpage &#8285; talk) 18:11, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Team Infobox
I was thinking of making the team infobox and I thought it would be nice to show collaberation jutsu between team members. May I modify Property:User tech so that it includes the name of the person the collaberation jutsu is being performed with? Simant (talk) 20:02, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Impossible to miss
Hey! I just came across this setup for a file upload.. with that length of the warning, it'd be impossible for the uploaders to miss it! That way, the well-meaning new guys wouldn't have the uncomfortable experience of being kicked behind by annoyed editors :3 ~Hakinu (talk 00:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, about the colour: It doesn't really make it look like a warning, since it matches the rest of the "enviornment"... if that makes sense. Personally, I didn't really realize it was a warning message before long after it was added. I think it's because of what I said; the colours makes it look like the welcoming messages on the front page and such.. ~Hakinu (talk 00:29, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Some Protected pages need more information!
The Kakashi page, for example, in the infobox, he has five elements not four, the one not on the list is wind, for rasengan. By protecting it, you're preventing users from editing it! The TenTen one, her name is TenTen not Tenten. By only caring about the first T, it shows you didn't really care about her info. But check your information before you write it or lock it!
 * I'll take care of this. --ShounenSuki (talk 01:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Code Help
I'm probably missing something obvious here but,, i want to use this to replace the uglyness going on here, but i'm not sure how to get the | to evaluate properly in the switch statement. Simant (talk) 02:51, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Bak
Yeah, i know. Long time no see...and seeing that I'm bored, I wonder if there's anything to do rite now.

Btw, I saw a lot of improvements on the wikia. But I was thinking to make the episode descriptions more elaborate instead of copying from the wikipedia. -- Rasengan888 (talk (Editor and RPer) 16:19, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto's Jutsu
Is there a way to see all of Naruto's jutsu(Including games)? Lidor 14:51, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can fix this. Jacce | Talk 17:01, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Policies
Dantman, can you update the side bar please to include all the new policies that have since been added. It'll help when new members are looking for it. Thanks.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 05:43, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Talk pages and spoilers
Due to the adding of spoilers on talk pages, people has asked if I could lock talk pages as well. What do you say? Jacce | Talk 12:33, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Not enough edits
Hia. There's a problem with people's interpreting of the userpage policy's paragraph about no edits. SuperN (in particular, I can't say if others also do it) is tagging user pages with a deletion notice saying they don't have enough edits. When I've been looking at this, they do have edits, but they are all reverted for different reasons, by different people. So the question is if this counts as no edits or not. A recent example of this situation you find with User:Diabolik.kant. Looking forward to a clear-up :) ~Hakinu (talk 21:15, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to point out I'm only tagging users with under 100 edits as I pointed out to Shelldone and his talkpage too.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 21:18, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

100 is too high, even 3 edits is good if the user has actually genuinely contributed to the wiki. Userpages are for users who are trying to improve the wiki, that's what the edits part is about. Count doesn't matter much, it's the content of the edits, if they're actually trying to improve an article it counts, compare that with the amount of edits they make on discussions that don't belong on the wiki, and personal things like their userpage...

Shelldone is on the border, he is contributing, but it should be noted to him that he shouldn't be responding to month old talkpage comments.

Diablik.kant, is hard to say on... He's made 2 or 3 contributions, however his level of literacy is a real problem to the wiki, and comments like this are real issues for the personality of a contributor. Looking over todays edits alone, he's done nothing but make talkpage posts that don't belong on the wiki (and todays edits are a significant portion of his edits).

So it looks like Shelldone has potential to be a good contributor to the wiki, and his userpage is fine. I don't know about Diablik.kant's userpage, however he himself is nothing but a catalyst for trouble, his personality is very close to the kinds of users that forced us to come up with these policies in the first place. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Mar 17, 2010 @ 22:07 (UTC)


 * Okay thanks Dantman for making both myself and the users of this wiki aware.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 22:10, March 17, 2010 (UTC)