Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170423043658/@comment-31099706-20170430160010

Well, this will be very long, compared to any of my other long posts.

First I'll start correcting my calaculation.

at the fourth war. Naruto = 5. Sasuke =5. because they are equals at the war.

Naruto with hashi hand + another half kurama =10.
 * Naruto + Hashi hand = 7.

Sasuke +Rinnegen mastery = 8. Sasuke + years of Training =10.

@Namikaze. From what I'm saying is that theres a difference between stronger and dangerous. Like a lion is strong but a disease carrying mosquito can be dangerous.

Naruto's whole character is dangerous to villains.

You're taking things I said to others and twisting them around.But I guess since you brought them, I'll do my best to enlighten you my friend. :)

I believe it goes like this "I was right, Sasuke at full is not someone to mess with" -Naruto Uzumaki at the gaiden, talking to himself rather loudly I think.

Since people have used some qoutes by Sasuke joking around to say that Sasuke considers Naruto a "milestone" stronger than him. I just thought to bring this qoute up by Naruto.

It certainly implies that Naruto acknowledges his strength just like Sasuke acknowledges Naruto's strength.

Which fight are you mentioning here bro? where are you going with this? I was replying to someone that said that Naruto's has matured very much and that is why he won't say things like I'm better than you and all to Sasuke. which isn't the case. So as you could read again(but this time much more clearly) that I was mentioning that Naruto is still the same, and gave examples for it, in which you seem to imply some fight? are you making some fanfiction? if so, then I'll surely read it.

Sasuke's pride? what do you mean? He sincerely accepted Naruto as his brother. He gave up that kind of pride, at chapter 699 I think. Did you miss it?

And again, I was mentioning to someone that said that Naruto doesn't say it because he is mature, so I said that counter is stupid, and so I showed that I could use such a counter too by saying that Sasuke felt guilty and that's why he praises Naruto.

I was saying that people Like Gai and showed that the results of Training has no result and that people like Madara, Oro, Kakashi and all got stronger even at their age. And I wasn't saying that everyone gets stronger with age but people can still get stronger at any age if they try to be, Danzo's also an example. And Minato after being an adult just improved more with his discovering of Rasengan and Sage mode and Kurama mode. Sasuke's both talented and is a hard worker. He wasn't just that cheerful with a training moto or something but it's very well stupid that he doesn't train when training is also his hobby and he is the first person to discover the Momo and Kinshi threat and so as a protecter of his village for both his brother, new family, friends and his best friend Naruto. So, yes he does train more.

Oh cool, so can you show me a link about where it says the meteor was weakend? or did you go and checked it yourself?

In the fourth war, Sasuke was also shown cutting meteor rite size CTs your point?

Entertain? Well I do a couple of jokes and all, and I posted them at the jokes thread.If entertainment is what you want, then you could just go there and read it.

The external boost you're mentioning was used at the end of their avatar battle, basically close to the end of their battle. While Naruto was powered up by Eight other tailed beasts which gave him a special cloak for the whole fight. and he also had TSBs too. But wait where are they now? Sasuke had alot of years to improve from that point. He mastered his Rinnegen and potentially learned alot of ninjutsus, has become more wiser and has improve alot of his basic abilities too, like Swordsmanship and Taijutsu, because well he couldn't use his Susanoo everytime because of him being new person from after the 700th chapter you know?

There's no doubt about Naruto having more chakra. But more chakra does not always help you against someone who has rinnegen abilities to absorb ninjutsu and chakra as well. And he very well improved his chakra reserves too.

Well the difference is that while naruto was being helped by all the 9 tailed beasts with his chakra, Sasuke used his own genjutsu, his own chibaku tensei and his own Susanoo to forcefully take that chakra. He did it with effort and talent while Naruto did it with love, pretty much what their character were right?

And why exactly is Sasuke always shunned by others everytime? When Obito used the tailed beast power which his whole team and taka helped to collect, he was cool, when Madara used the tailed beast power he collected by using his own secret jutsu, he was cool, when Naruto was being helped by all the nine tailed beasts he was cool. when Sasuke used tailed beast power with his own effort and ability, he was so uncool? where's the logic bro? isn't thsi regarded as bs too? or is just always for Sasuke?

Um the writer did showcase it. he showed through alot, it's just sad that his efforts are just ignored. Ever thought why he keeps giving them power ups one by one, so to make them equal at the end and also grow them strong. Ever noticed why he made the vote battle a tie? ever noticed why he makes certains characters say that they are equals? like freaking Oro, who is a genius, himself. And again you mention the Huge Huge boost, which was for what? 2 minutes from the 24 hour fight? while Naruto had chakra of all the beasts and tsb with him all taht time till the end? Yeah nice speculation.

@Vladosaurus. Correction, Sasuke before the Kaguya threat search mission was free all the time, he was also protecting the village from villains as well as protecting himself from people who craves for his eyes(yes the shinobi world is filled with more Orochimaru's than you think) He has to be in active shape as well train more to deal with those dangers. And battling is the highest form of training in my opinion. He saved alot of people, the novels showed it as his usual activity. He kept on only getting stronger. His hobby is also to train and take long slow walks, both he does in his journeys for redemption. And I wander how you can possibly explain on how he mastered his Rinnegen to be deactivated. and plus his missions are a training of it's own, travelling through Kaguya's dimension in search of something that even they don't know isn't easy. her Lava,Ice, dessert and gravity dimension( It's same to that training time room/dimension in DBZ, even walking on it will be like Lee's weights) makes a ninja more stronger obiviously.

I agree with @Kakashi's statement about Sasuke training.

@Ninjachris. I'm gonna reply to both your latest and previous post.

But first this one.

As I explained above to Namikaze, but for you I'll add a little more.

Kaguya and BZ decided Naruto's a greater threat. Yes. But threat, they did not go and say he is stronger but said that he is a greater threat. Just like a lion is strong but a disease carrying mosquito is more of a threat. Naruto's the main character. his never giving up will, and his ability to give hope to his teammates is not at all safe for a villain. and remember, Kaguya also thought of Momo and Kinshi as great threats to her, so are they stronger than SP enhanced Naruto?

She wouldn't fight him if he's the stronger one would she? I mean why not just send him to another dimension just so he could be stuck there and starve to death? just why? I don't see how he could be a problem for them if they he's in another dimension without any way to escape.

Especially considering she wants to suck his chakra out. Naruto's hope giving nature makes his other team mates fight more tougher, that is bad for Kaguya, as you can see at the end, at what happened with it.

And is sending someone to another dimension the new universal way of saying he/she is weak?

Cause if I remember right, Naruto was taken to another dimension too, while they were escaping from Sasuke, does that mean that Adult narutos weak against Adult Sasuke, no. Cause their equals. and each did it for their own reasons, not because they thought that either of them were weak.

And are you implying that Anbu Kakashi was stronger than single MS Kakashi? teenager Might Gai stronger than Eigth gates achieved very much older Gai? Genin Naruto and Sasuke and every other genin even slightly equal to their jonin/adult versions? By your logic Everyone is strongest at birth and then becomes more and more weaker everyday.

I was just saying that characters like Gai, Madara,Kakashi, Oro all proved that even at an old age, improvement is possible through training or any other way.

No, everyone is saying they are equals after Naruto gaining a hashi cells enhanced arm and another half of Kurama and Sage and Rasenshuriken mastery that Sasuke with Rinnegen mastery, jutsu knowledge and pure potentiel and training equals with Naruto.

Sasuke potentially could be stronger than Naruto with either a hashi arm or a CM, just request to Oro lol. Sasuke's leaving all that because of guilt which is very ckear by the way.

My maths had a little problem, yes. But I corrected it, and if this time you won't understand then you just don't understand it.

Now to your previous post

Hear yourself, you're compeletely blaming Sasuke to be equal because of money interest. this is a fact that the whole manga is created for that very purpose, forget that, every single manga and anime, cartoons,tv shows,movies all of it's characters, everything, are created for the sole purpose of money. Sasuke is no special in that case.

And I could easily counter that with saying that alot of fanbase would go crazy if Sasuke gets stronger than Naruto (something not that surpising) and will lose alot of fans and money for it.

The writer clearly, gave both Naruto and Sasuke equal power ups equally each time.

Sasuke gains a sharingan, Naruto gains Kurama's chakra.Sasuke gains a chidori, Naruto gains a rasengan, Sasuke gains CM, Naruto gains nine tails boost, Sasuke going CM version 2 Naruto going Kurama chakra cloak. Sasuke being awesomely stronger, Naruto learning Rasenshuriken. Sasuke gaining MS, Naruto gaining SM. sasuke gaining EMS Naruto gaining nine tails chakra control, (then their power ups become equal at the same time, do I need to explain or something?)

It's funny how Naruto fans don't even know that much about their own Naruto. Naruto as long as Kurama chakra being in him is in a constant state of freshness, No wounds, no stamina problem. by Kurama's doing that is. So as long as he has large enough chakra left in him, he's as good as he will always be.I'm mainly talking about Naruto after getting a someof his chakra getting absorbed and people exclaiming that he is tired, come on people! his Kurama chakra heals and refreshes him as long as a good amount of it is in him, he's okay.

What? Did you miss the whole Sage recharging their them with SP chakra scene? read it,watch it, maybe twice.

It's still funny that you think he's tired from that battle even though he got all healed up with Kurama and fresh large supplies of SP chakra which both he and Sasuke lost after sealing Kaguya.

They are equals. enough said.