Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-38812954-20190924074243/@comment-38812954-20190924094009

If we'd only seen more of fugaku. Lol minato's rival. They just never fought or had that kind of relationship. That relationship though manifested through their sons lol.

That (what Kakashi said) and maybe if you had a strong will (reference to sasuke breaking Tsukuyomi with fully mature sharingan in both eyes) but I don't want to neglect the fact that itachi was sick. So ig it's more of what Kakashi said.

If sasuke could use MS techs without external aid then so can Obito. And you gotta remember that itachi spammed susanoo while being sick. It's not a case of Obito not being able to use his MS techs without hashirama's cells. It's a case of applying the same concept for every uchiha who awakens MS. They'd be able to use all their techs the only thing is gradual blindness. Obito before hashi's cells used kamui. I remember from the episode that madara said when he saved him, that it was as though he passed right through the rock. Ig through the momentary trauma he subconsciously awakened his MS but wasn't aware. And not knowing of it after he was saved, he never did it at will (activate his MS). But it's not like there was a scenario where he could have done that so. And after madara made him see rin die. It wasn't hashi's cells that triggered his MS it was pain or trauma. It just remanifested itself in my opinion. This time consciously, again because of the trauma, as he awakened it before (again in my opinion). Hashi's cells to me only granted him the ability to use wood style and healing abilities (ig). Because if Kakashi could use kamui so much times with one eye (and not go blind barely anytime after) and not have hashi's cells. Then double MS Obito especially can. It would be better to say that hashi's cells boosted his MS and kamui. Like what six paths senjutsu did for them.