Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180528093116/@comment-34656247-20180531064720

Nashikeine wrote: change the description up there. you are the OP and even though i have never made a thread of my own i am guessing that changes can be made. if you dont do so than don't debate with Sasuke using Susanoo Arrows. he could only make skeletal Susanoo in his fight against Kage. until you dont make that change it will be assumed that Sasuke is from the Kage fight and all of your argument using his skills from later on is null and void By saying the sasuke that fought the 5 kage i was referring to his age range and not the abilities he used in that fight and besides the stage 2 susanoo did reside in his eyes didnt it? ;_;

Nashikeine wrote: I specifically said the manga didnt i. cannon is manga. if manga portrays somethings it is the first and foremost fact. Come on man you're not thinking it through....no itachi no totsuka....simple as that xd

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Well kinda, he showed better against Juubi Obito, analysing and deducing the way The TSB works. Now who on team uchiha won't accomplish that? maybe except for obito....countering guruguru's tech's was kinda an obvious move since he possesed all 5 releases as well.

Nashikeine wrote: i showed feats, while there is nothing for others other than statements. Itachi and Madara's planning ahead covers that.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Yea in the anime it was shown that he saw the seal that was placed on one of the many kunais tobirama threw at izuna after they clashed their fire and water release tech. Were'nt they the top dudes because they possesed mangekyou? Well he was'nt good at genjutsu, tobirama and him made eye contact but he still failed to place the guy under genjutsu, if it was shisui or Itachi that would've been RIP tobirama. so that's a hint of izuna's poor mastery of the ms.

Nashikeine wrote: so just because Izuna was not good with Genjutsu means he was weak. wow. and you say he noticed the seal and yet couldnt react was not a proof that FTG is unavoidable for Sharingan users. a mature Sharingan, which he definitely possessed sees people before they make their move and see through fast moments. you are just proving my point. and Minato was better at FTG than Tobirama. That's an example,you just assumed he is good at it, and that example kinda doubts you. There were kunai's floating around all he had to do was grab one and counter the sword. rip reaction time. So this is kinda strengthing my point abt him being a poor user of the sharingan...and bee reacting to it still stands and these guys are all skilled bishes with enhaced perception.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: They dont know about his abilities, that doesnt mean they dont know who he is. To put it simply itachi and kisame knew about Jiraiya's title as sannin, but did they have any idea about his jutsus? kisame was probably just scared because of all the rumors....just like madara, no know really knew what he was capable of but yet feared him blindly. And dude that's totally valid,him changing his stance will definitely raise suspicion. Itachi crouched down, started weaving signs but sasuke interrupted him by throwing the shadow shuriken at him.....see he prevented the attack without knowing what the hell it is. Now jiraiya being in that stance will be like telling the uchiha's hey attack me

Nashikeine wrote: SO they know Jiraiya is the Legendary Sannin who has fought in war and has a reputation of being TOade Sage, but somehow they wont know of him being able to use Toads in battle, especially when all in opposition are Konoha shinobi and three of them were borm after the fame that Jiriaya recived. i get it for SM, but dont even say so about his non SM skills. Just a condition of this battle......

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Madara was sure of himself then, him being an edo, possessing the rinnegan and wood release...who would be scared and not take things lightly? Amaterasu slaps Hiruzen who is less mobile.

Nashikeine wrote: tell that to Madara who confronted Muu and Ohnoki when he was alive. Hype, that's all, those two would've definitely end Madara if they had fought.

Nashikeine wrote: Sasuke all tired dodged 2 Amaterasu from Itachi in his fight and he didnt use some otherworldly jutsu to do so. he simply ran from where Itachi's sight was pointed at. even the 3 only clipped his wings. So, somehow the professor cannot devise a plan especially knowing of Amaterasu to avoid it. Yea the same sasuke who had on the 3 tomoe sharingan which was enhance by senjutsu chakra. I don't see how it's comparable to a slowpoke...hiruzen.

PSSt the fight...