Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180205153025/@comment-26107879-20180208041436

@PrinceofHarris

When exactly did Gyuki break Bee out of Genjutsu? And you're exactly right. Itachi isn't Obito. Itachi is better than Obito in Genjutsu. Obito rarely used Genjutsu except to control people. If his Genjutsu was more powerful than Itachi's, I'm sure he would of used it constantly in the war especially on the enemies. Itachi is one of the best in Genjutsu, Obito isn't really up there. So if you can provide me a reference as to how Bee escaped the Genjutsu and explain why Yagura could not do the same, then I will continue with the scenario that I believe would happen. Also instead of everyone saying "Menma wins" describe a scenario as to how he wins, or else it's just words.

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: The key point here is that jinchuriki has to break the genjutsu, in the fight with Killer Bee neither Bee nor Gyuki realize that they are in Genjutsu. It's only when Itachi gives the clue about being Genjutsu that Gyuki breaks the Genjutsu. Time Dilation is strong Suite of Tsukuyomi so such difference in breaking the Genjutsu could cause the opponent the fight.

If this is also true, then I stand firmly in believing Itachi wins by the scenario I provided since Kurama (A Tailed Beast who has been controlled countless times by the Sharingan) isn't likely to sense being in the Genjutsu and help Menma break free. Also can anyone provide me a reference to Menma using Obito's abilities?