Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-27823212-20160719221612

UltimaDude wrote: I retract my statement, then Size of the explosion doesn't always determine the power, only the damage to the environment does. And since the TBB + Chidori explosion happened in the air, damage was greatly diminished. Whether or not the explosion happened on the air or land means nothing when it comes to comparing the sizes of the explosions.

If the explosion happened on land, it would've created a crater proportional to the size of the ball. That's it.

Hashirama won't have time to prevent himself from getting bisected. Also if Hashirama manages to trap him in the way you described, what's stopping Sasuke from using: Nothing what's so ever. Any of these jutsus will either get Hashirama restrained, severely injured, or straight up killed And there isn't anything preventing Hashirama from retaliating either.
 * Chidori Nagashi
 * Chidori Stream
 * Amateratsu
 * Amateratsu: Kagutsuchi
 * Amenojikara
 * Susanoo?

He claps his hand and summons any of his Mokuton creatures, making the supposed counters that you suggest irrelevant.

Naruto wasn't able to completely put up a guard. Can you not comprehend this much? The result will be the same regardless if there's diversion or no diversion What are you talking about? All of the Hokages, except for Tobirama and Minato, need to "physically react" in order to even hope to counter Sasuke's Ameno + Chidori combo. Ameno doesn't lose any effectiveness if there's no diversion. Naruto's hand is visibly shown to be in a blocking position, so how did he not put up a guard?

Of course Amenotejikara loses effectiveness without a diversion. That's one of the dumbest claims that I've ever heard in my life.

Your opponent being distracted obviously increases the chances of you hitting him.

-Hashirama doesn't need seals to grow Mokuton from his body.

-Minato & Tobirama don't need to move to use Hiraishin.

-Hiruzen doesn't have to move for Emna to guard his back.

None of the need to even physically move much less turn around and put up a guard like Naruto did even with the techniques effectiveness increased by a distraction.

Momoshiki is on a whole different league than the Hokages, so I don't even know why you're mentioning him. No, he isn't and I wasn't even talking about Momoshiki.

Amenotejikara with no diversion failed against Kinshiki, hence why Sasuke only managed to cut off his horn without actually hitting him.

Meanwhile the same guy got hit by Kurotsuchi's surprise attack.

Sasuke was able to catch up to a fleeing TTJ-Madara and was even complimented for his speed by him. So I'm pretty sure he's at least up to par with 8 Gates Guy Amenojikara + Sasuke's speed >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Gates Guy. Naruto's sensing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minato's sensing. Minato isn't reacting to Sasuke's Ameno + Chidori combo Both being complimented by Madara under different circumstances doesn't make their speed equal.

Sasuke was easily dodged by blind Madara when he actually bothered to dodge in cqc.

8th Gate Gai's speed portrayal against Madara is>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke's.

Random uses of Amenotejikara aren't even more effective than Kurotsuchi's surprise attack much less at a level where it can overwhelm a Hiraishin user.

Except that Sasuke clearly wasn't fighting seriously. Like really, do you blatantly ignore context to support your claim? You're the one who took the scene out of context.

Sasuke was absolutely serious against Shin and he wanted him captured. Not wanting to kill Shin doesn't magically restrict Sasuke's speed.

Naruto didn't even move, during their confrontation, so how could you say he couldn't blitz Shin? Stop ignoring context He easily blitzes the Hokages. Prove that Guy is faster than Naruto. Not to mention Lee was able to get a kunai between Guy and Madara. Are you saying that Lee can react to 8 Gates Guy? Madara's Chibaku Tensei >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wood Human. Heck, some of Shinsusenju's fist were destroyed by Madara's Evil Disturbance Waltz. Wood Release isn't strong against jutsus of cutting nature. Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken destroys Shinsusenju in about 4 blows The context of that situation is Naruto wanting to capture Shin.

-Naruto stated that he wanted Shin captured.

-Naruto tried to capture him.

-He failed.

Not really sure how you're claiming that Naruto didn't move when he shot out a chakra arm.

Naruto couldn't even land a hit on Madara during their fight while Gai ragdolled him.

Bijudama Rasenshuriken doesn't have the destructive capacity to do any damage to the statue since it's explosion is dwarfed by one that Shinsuusenju already tanked. How much do I have to keep repeating myself?