Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35806245-20180607100011/@comment-33959444-20180612021227

Nashikeine Well, by author's intent and as stated, adult Naruto and adult Sasuke are equal. The only thing was that all of SPSM Naruto's abilities came to him and he was able to master them a lot quicker than Sasuke mastered his abilities. We clearly saw Sasuke improve as an adult. He went from destroying Madara's meteors with perfect Susano'o to destroying it by channeling Lightning Style Chakra. He went from not being able to open portals to making portals to Momoshiki's dimension and allowing several people to pass through. While fatigued, he was able to fight a Kenjutsu match with Kinshiki. Naruto also improved. It's implied they improved at a rate to which they are now equal. So, unless we are talking about War Arc Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto and Sasuke are equal here. Although, War Arc Naruto > War Arc Sasuke.

Yes, but you still have to remember that Obito's base still must have been quite something if he is capable of actually handling Hashirama DNA. And I still do think Obito would at least be better at Genjutsu considering he's an Uchiha and is the original owner of his Sharingan. Ninjutsu and Taijutsu are up for debate, but I think you're underestimating base Obito. All we saw was that base Obito as a kid was inferior to Kakashi. We never saw base Obito as an adult. We already know for a fact that Obito was a late bloomer if he awakened the Sharingan as a 13 year old. I believe Obito would learn to master it greater than Kakashi and surpass him.

Yes, Kakashi is S Rank. As stated in the wiki, "S-rank (Sランク, Esu ranku) is one of the six classifications. It is preceded by A-rank. It is typically used when classifying techniques intended for highly experienced jōnin and Kage-level shinobi." What is Kakashi? A high-ranking Jonin. If Hidan is S Rank, I'm certain kakashi is one too.

Sakumo Hatake was in the Manga. I know that. I was just wondering whether if what Minato said about his name shadowing the Legendary Sannin was in the Manga or only in the Anime.

By guidebooks do you mean databooks? Because the databooks are filled with hyperbole and are mainly used to hype things and people up. For example, it's stated that the MS are heavenly eyes that can see all things in the universe, ironically the opposite considering MS makes the user go more blind the more they use it.

I'd consider novels more canon than databooks for sure...

"I am not saying that the Uchiha clan members are not stronger than your average shinobi, i am saying so in regards to other clans who to have their specialities which they honed over years and passed down the knowledge." And I never made the claim you stated that.

What if Shisui puts one into Koto and kidnaps them? then what if there is a conflict between the Uchiha and Uzumaki, where that one member that's being controlled is put out in the middle of the war field where nobody recognizes. Then, that member, by Shisui's will, pretends to attack the Uchiha, then backstabs the Uzumaki?

And actually, I re-checked the chapter in which that happened. In chapter 461, one of the samurai asked Ao to check out Mifune again to see if Danzo's powers were still in use. Ao stated that he could no longer see it and that acupressure Chakras were flowing peacefully and that the technique was no longer working. After that, Danzo assured him that he couldn't use Koto multiple times in a day. So, it is actually implied that Danzo put out Koto and Mifune didn't break out of it on his own.

Okay, that's true. The difference between Karin and all the examples you gave is that they clearly showed more control over their powers than Karin who used it with rage.