Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181123090841

1) Clear concession. You ignored the fact that kakashi put a giant waterwall in front of himself and was then clearly seen swimming underwater. Put two and together. He made the water clone while he was inside the 360 degree water wall and then sneaked underwater, it's that simple.  You just don't want to acknowledge the fact that Itachi got his clone directly behind kakashi in the space of one panel, without any line of sight blockers, with 4 people watching him. Talk about downplay, smh. You act like there isn't a precedent for it. Naruto when using multi shadow clone jutsu can make like half of his clones appear behind his opponent or have them form a circle. That alone proves it's theorectically possible to form clones behind your opponent. It's more than likely a feat of skill to refine mastery of placement. There is also the fact that clones are mostly used to confuse and overwhelm your opponent, or simply trick them into thinking a clone is the real one. Itachi simply optimized his usage because his clones can explode on command rendering any taijutsu his opponent tries on it useless, which is apparently something rare in the naruto universe, because asuma was surprised that he could do it.

2) No I accept your concession. Reread the whole manga. Itachi didn't try to kill any of his opponents except for orochimaru and nagato, period. Itachi didn't use totsuka blade against sasuke because his goal wasn't to kill him. Use common sense here.

3) And? the point is it was an underground attack. What evidence do you have that kakashi is any slower or faster than kimimaro's bones????