Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-27924662-20170429113619

BlazeRelease wrote: @Namikaze.Well one is, that you thinking Danzo can do anything with Shisui's prowress. I never said shisui's prowress was equal to Danzo's. Though counting that even with all his prowress and sharingan jutsu knowledge, Shisui wasn't able to avoid Danzo's Izanagi. it's quite debatable what shisui did in the anime. But that story is for another day. BlazeRelease wrote: It was always Danzo's character. He isn't as noble as everyone thinks he is. Danzo did alot of attacks at Sasuke with susanoo activated, why wouldn't he now do it? Never said he was noble. Just said that he tried to take advantage of Sasuke thinking he was noble. BlazeRelease wrote: Sasuke blizted infront of all those Kages and sensors. Now hold on here, I feel like both of us saw different fights. I will summarize what sasuke did their: 1)Sasuke Fights the Raikage, Gets overwhelmed in speed to the point he has to use Susanoo. Even in Susanoo he realizes he can break it and hence he tries to escape him with kagutsuchi. Kage Arc 2)Raikage attacks him recklessly and jams his hands into flames likely a result of believing BEE died. 3)Gaara enters the field saves raikage from his recklessness, chats with sasuke and than sasuke demonstrates a better shield "Susanoo". After that sasuke runs away(really great plan sticking to the target Danzo) by cutting the main pillar of building. 4)Sasuke is easily detected by Yamanaka guy he easily tells his location while others are searching for his chakra signature. 5)sasuke than fights Mizukage and gets overwhelmed because of pain and is helped by ZETSU. 6)Onoki Destroys "Sasuke". Conclusion: Sasuke did great job escaping and handling Kages, But He didn't Blitz any one And The Raikage showed him why he is the fastest man alive at that time. BlazeRelease wrote: Chakra drain still matters.Hashi cells don't give unlimited chakra. He as a non uchiha will have a bery high amount of chakra drain. It's comparative. Hashirama's chakra easily nullify the cost of Izanagi Sharingan as well as decreased the cost of cool down of Kotoamatsukami from a decade to a single day. So no it doesn't matter. BlazeRelease wrote: Complete Healing in the narutoverse was mostly with the person themselves. Tsunade,Naruto and Hashirama are prime examples of it, as in they can fight as if they were never harmed. While healing always was a little incomplete. And where exactly are you saying that she kept healing him? Two times bro, two times one,minor healing(through medical ninjutsu) before Danzo's battle and one after succesfully dealing with Danzo, though the latter did a cheap move of using Karin as a hostage. Now I think we need to reach Karin's healing part. Karin's healing ability: You mean the healing she did on Sasuke that she after a couple of minutes later said that Sasuke isn't even well enough to use Chidori? yeah that pretty much settles that. Well take it this way if you will. Danzo was surviving on his chakra(even while using Izanagi) unlike Sasuke who had to rely on Karin. And don't give me that injury excuse because I will say Danzo was too old as well as he didn't had Shisui's eye. He was fighting with even greater disadvantage than sasuke and plot was the reason why he survived. BlazeRelease wrote: What? why do you think Danzo just having the sharingan in his eye gonna make a difference between a Sasuke? Danzo's skills were shown perfectly, he would still need to keep his izanagi activated due to Sasuke's susanoo. There is no amount of skill and power gained through that MS(other than Koto) that's gonna save him from Sasuke's susanoo, even Kakashi admitted that he was saved through using kamui. Don't waste your time flattering yourself. For starters Danzo would have easily escaped those cheap shuriken shots/ death concrete falling and other such cheap attacks only the arrow would have posed a threat for which he could easily use Izanagi. Such a fight would have easily resulted in Danzo outlasting Sasuke easily. BlazeRelease wrote: And no, Kakashi did feel pain, and so will Danzo. Danzo never mentioned he holding back to Sasuke, I don't really knwo where you got that. It was still impressive of him to fight like that. IF MS Sasuke and Danzo with MS starts fresh in a battle then Sasuke will wins easily. Let's just not give some not at all seen fighting prowress to Danzo, that he possibly could barely use. I am not saying Danzo was holding back. All I am pointing out is that Danzo didn't had luck on his side. He couldn't use all of "his" power. It could even be strategic move on Obito's part that he intended on sasuke fighting Danzo only when he established that he didn't had shisui's prowess.

Well I am not so sure about frog kata. BlazeRelease wrote: @Vladosaurus. No, you didn't cover it all. Naruto had help from Kurama's chakra to dodge Raikage. You are joking right?