Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-27924662-20160817160245/@comment-24824859-20160823132621

GreatestSin wrote: ^nope, naruto activated rasenshuriken but crippled his own hand, activating a jutsu and being protected against it are two different things... So Naruto hurting proves that all jutsus can affect the users? sigh, SPC =/= rinnegan, seriously, you yourself said that so6p gave SPC to naruto and sasuke and now you say he gave them rinnegan and SPSM, but you can deny it, fact is that naruto didnt activate the rinnegan despite getting SPC, his "ashura component" made it possible, the same way sasuke activated rinnegan thanks to his "indra component"... and SPSM is similar to TTJ, both have TSBs which only exist by TT-jins, this alone is already enough... Rinnegan = SPC. I never said that the SoSP gave them SPC. Also, would you stop bringing up the components BS? Hagoromo gave Sasuke the Rinnegan and Naruto the SPSM, nothing more nothing less. The Rinnegan contain SPC and SPSM contain SPSC. SPC and SPSC are the same thing with the only difference being that one has Senjutsu i read it again, naruto said "i forgot you could use that shunsin thing, i got worried", than sasuke said "like this foothold, it is because we were both blessed with rikudous power", that doesnt mean that he gave them SPSM and rinnegan respectively, this sentence is still true even if he only gave them SPC...but can you give the databook part? Why wouldn't it mean that he gave them SPSM and the Rinnegan respectively? SPS and the Rinnegan are the powers of Hagoromo.  It is a divine state gifted by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki to those who have an iron faith and the guts to never give up. Fourth Databook, page 310 let be say it differently: susanoo comes from sasukes chakra, sasukes chakra got upgraded thanks to rinnegan which is the case since his susanoo got upgraded, genjutsu it messing with chakra, rinnegan gave sasuke a upgraded special chakra that resists ITs light, everything together: sasuke himself is immune against IT too... Finally, something that makes sense. But, nonetheless, I disagree. Sasuke will still need something like Susanno to protect himself from IT they may not be labelled as such but nothing says that they arent, how else could the jutsus be fueled if not with the users chakra which is senjutsu? If the user has another reserve that doesn't include Senjutsu, such in the case of Dojutsus like i said before, SPC has a immense similarity with senjutsu, the effect on their jutsus was the same as the CS did with chidori, naurtos SPSM without bijuus is basically a better version than sage mode... and the darui argument is rather flimsy, jutsus in general can have a different look despite being similar (like narutos different rasenshurikens, their look is different and their element but the effect is not particular different from each other)... SPC is still not Senjutsu. Dark-colored lightning is not always Senjutsu. Not to mention all of Sasuke's jutsus, while he has his Rinnegan active, have SPC. Heck, Indra's Arrow is created through SPC, yet it's not dark as i already said, the 9 bijuus = juubi and juubi is nature energy shown by kaguya who recharged herself through that (read chapter 689 page 5)... 9 Bijuus/Juubi is still not Senjutsu. Also, did you not read the chapter? BZ clearly stated that she was getting power from the victims of IT, not natural energy