Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36632842-20180818184904/@comment-31099706-20180918033914

LoneNinja wrote: Your ABC logic didn't make much sense. Kimimaro went up against a way stronger Gaara than Sasuke did. If that same Sasuke was put in Kimimaro's shoes, he would of probably lost against Kyubi amped Naruto before Gaara even showed up. Then Lee and Gaara? Yea, no. You were the one who was using ABC logic my friend, I simply taught you that it can be used either ways. Gaara was never mentioned to get strnger between the period. It was the same Gaara. The same one that Chunnin Sasuke took down. And it seems you're still going on with the ABc logic here lol.

@Combat. You claim that my logic has holes in it. That doesn't make it the truth. You're claiming Sakon and Kiba is faster than both Sasuke and Gaara's sand, without any proof for it. Did any of the sound four fought against a full stabilized Sasuke one on one? Did Sakon have any feats shown to be fast? Did anyone even mention them to be fast? If you have any source of atleast one of these, then I will agree with you.

Oh, nice you're freaking ignoring the point of a trick. Orochimaru got tricked by the rigged Shurikens into a trap. He highly praised Sasuke for catching him in it, infact, that was the actual reason he chose Sasuke, instead of killing him after that. And wait, catching a Sannin level shinobi out of nowhere in a surprise and burning him isn't impressive? If that was any other shinobi, he wouldn't be walking like Orochimaru could then. Ah, so you're trying to turn things around me? When have I mentioned that Sasuke was stronger than Oro? I was mentioning about him using a trick, smart enough to catch even him, which you before said he doesn't posses any tricks. I can see why you're turning things around so to avoid the fact that you're losing this. Unlike you, I'm not going over and making outrages statememts like Kiba is faster than Gaara's sand and that he's equally strong as the Sound four and such and such, but unlike you, it didn't make me laugh, it's not even funny.

I see that you either didn't read my statement or are making false statements out of it, believing that it will help you win. Of course Kiba won't be in the same way as Oro, and Sasuke won't be tricking Kiba the same way he tricked Oro, different factors need different methods, didn't I tell you? You could see that Sasuke changes his method depending on the opponent, the situation and his own condition, while Kiba uses smoke bombs. What are you saying? The whole point of Sasuke hiding the shurikens inside the Fire balls was to trick Zaku, he knew that he will do just that. You're completely avoiding the meaning of a trick. He uses different tricks for different opponents. The one time Kiba got succesful in his tricks was against Sakon, because he ran away from there. He didn't stay there, he left a decoy behind after he left, and Sakon wasn't bright enough to be suspicious of a decoy or he was just being overconfident.

And speaking about decoys, illusions and tricks. Sasuke has shown several times the ability to see through tricks that most don't, he saw through Naruto's tricks and helped him without a word, he saw through the illusion placed by the Chunnin Exam proctors, he saw through Oro being a imposter, he saw through alot of tricks, and the Eight Tails Decoy was made during his eye strain, it wasn't exactly happening between their level of vision, and the decoy was no normal one either, evem Obito didn't see through it until it turned normal. And Jugo was the one holding it. So, no, Kiba can't just put a decoy and expect Sasuke to get close to it without shooting a kunai at it, and how do you suppose Kiba hides? Kiba's decoy worked because he ran away, and the only present there was a decoy, if there was two of them how would it be? While Sasuke usage of decoy, that is substituion allow him to bring the focus of his enemy and instantly get behind him.

Now let's see, we have Kiba, who used the same trick twice, and got succesful once, but as an escape method rather than to point of a battle. Then there is Sasuke, who employed different trickes to various characters, showing why he is known as a genius and someone alike Kakashi.

You're highly avoiding the purpose of the Sharingan. The Sharingan sees throughe everything, it helps the user to predict the steps the opponent is making. As how Oro commented, he accurately predicted his escape route and caught him down there. Kiba can't simply dodge something like that, whereever he tries to go, the Sharinagn will see it nefore it happens and Sasuke will time his attack according to it, even Haku almost got burned by a fireball jutsu what is Kiba going to do?

Can you give a panel of whatever scene you're talking about Sasuk and the smoke screen, I'll be happy to educate you on that.

You're forgetting Kiba's personality too, Kiba's overconfident, even more than Sasuke, who has a reason for it. He's more hot headed too. While as I mentioned several times before, Sasuke doesn't go for an obvious opening, he can outthink his opponents and see through their tricks, Kiba never shown that. And again, you're the one giving out false statements, using ABC logic and giving feats not even related to the situation or Kiba.

Again, Taka Sasuke's Sharingan was deactivated, and he wasn't even opening his eyes because of eye strain and Jugo was the one holding Killer B's unique decoy.

I sure hope you had enough to say, since everything you had was all of this. Sasuke stomps Kiba.