Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33390047-20171108150121/@comment-30323490-20171108151416

This is not really fair if we think about it. If Jiraiya is in SM, then he has Ma and Pa on his shoulders. Beside the fact that Ma and Pa can help him a lot in battle, Jiraiya can also never run out of SM, since the 2 frogs will continuously absorb NY for him. Naruto on the other hand will be limited to 4 shadow clone uses, not to mention that he will always be for a little while in base until he releases one of the shadow clones to re-enter SM.