Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31338621-20190129080042/@comment-31715856-20190202054122

Arturia00000 wrote: @MindForged

I believe Hashirama and Tobirama were even more talented than Minato. Especially Hashirama.

Eh, I'm not sure about that. Aside from the in-story quotes from Jiraiya and Ay, Tobirama says in a few different instances that Minato is better at things Tobirama was renowned for (speed and teleportation). There's also something crucial that makes this favor him a bit, at least putting him in the same range. Minato died at 24, Hashirama and Tobirama died when Hashirama was already a grandfather of a few years. It's very unlikely Hashirama was any younger than his late thirties at his death (according to Seelentau's timeline on this wiki, Hashirama was at minimum 38 to 40-ish at the time of death, as Madara first controlled Kurama when Madara was 32 or 33, and Hashirama dies around 6-8 years later or so). Anyway, all of this is to say Minato had a solid 10-15 years deficit in which to improve even more and yet it appeared that only Hashirama was actually stronger among the Hokage in the war.