Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-29752445-20160826022014/@comment-29752445-20160826223506

BeyondRed wrote: To answer this, you need to understand that we've essentially been given three different versions of events that don't quite fit together:
 * The first version, given from the Sage of Six Paths' introduction until his actual debut in chapter 670, says Hagoromo alone sealed the Ten-Tails inside himself, then later created the tailed beasts as his life neared an end to prevent the beast from reviving, then finally created the moon in order to seal away its husk.
 * The second version, given from chapter 670 until the end of the manga (and in the databook), says Hagoromo and Hamura together sealed the beast in the moon, then Hagoromo later divided its chakra into the tailed beasts because he was inspired by how Asura lived his life. Hagoromo still says the Ten-Tails was inside him, meaning the brothers likely sealed its chakra within him and its body inside the moon, though this was never actually explained anywhere.
 * The third version is given in the anime's recent filler episodes and it is a mess of contradictions, not only with earlier episodes/chapters but also with itself. According to this version, Kaguya and the Ten-Tails were two separate entities, Hagoromo knew that Kaguya was Ten-Tails along, Kaguya was the one sealed in the moon (meaning she became the Demonic Statue), Hagoromo created the tailed beasts way before Asura was born, he never actually became the Ten-Tails' jinchūriki, and so on. To top it off, the episode after we see Kaguya get sealed in the moon, Hagoromo claims Ten-Tails was also sealed along with her, which as we clearly saw didn't happen.

Narutoka5 wrote: where in the anime and manga did hagoromo say he split the jubi based on Ashura's life? in the filer episodes in the anime they show hagoromo split the jubi right after they seal it, before ashura was even born, and besdes those fillers I don't remember him ever saying he was inspired by ashura. He says this in chapter 670 and episode 420. As for Hamura, going by the databook he left soon after the moon was created, before Indra and Asura were born. Hagoromo creating the moon at the end of his life was from the wrong version of events given by Obito, it was actually created when the brothers defeated the Ten-Tails according to Black Zetsu.

If you want to know the full manga version of events from before the anime started messing with it, you can read a translation of them here.

ok so fkc the fillers, fillers mean nothing anyway, they are only nice if they are in the "grey zone" and don't mess up cannon material, and since they did, then they don't mean anything, and this is the thing, the wiki page should be edited to cannon and to filler material, because it messes it up. should be that way to every page on the wiki.

now about something else- version number 2 of the 3 versions you specified, there is a contradiction there as well that I am trying to understand, which I asked about originally, if the brothers sealed the husk right after the jubi's defeat, then it will completely contradict the future events, because it was stated that hagoromo split the jubi before his death, and was able to survive longer and not die on spot because the husk was inside of him during the split, and after the split he sealed the husk in the moon, so in order for this to make sense, it means hamura stayed with hagoromo way after the jubi's defeat, it means hamura traveled with hagoromo while he was teaching ninjshu, and it means that hamura was also there with Ashura and indra, being their uncle, and only after hagoromo split the jubi and sealed the husk on the moon, that's when hamura left to the moon, but then again, that's the question, did it happen like this, or did hamura left right after the jubi's defeat, which messes this all up and make no sense whatsoever, because the issue with the husk and hagoromo.

now if hamura indeed stayed with hagoromo til his old age, that would contradict the whole movie of naruto the last, because hamura created his own family tree line on the moon, and he wouldn't be able to do that if he only got there as a geezer after hagoromo split the jubi (since they are both the same age)

no logic here, no simple solution, all messed up lol.