Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20180331134207/@comment-27924662-20180420030153

Nashikeine wrote: Yeah, the sand of Gaara and web of Kidomaru are somewhat same, both being infused with chakra, but at the same time they are so much different. first of all, with KidoMaru, Neji struck the weak point of the webs, like they previously did Jirobo's dome, thus breaking those thread and rendering them useless. in case with Gaara's sand, it is sand, made up minuscule particles. even if Neji strikes the weak point of the cluster that is attcking him, the cluster may break down, but the sand particles remain and Gaara can simply form a cluster once more without much effort. Not true. Once Chakra is disrupted, Gaara will have to knead the necessary chakra again, Considering how it takes minuscule chakra from Neji to destroy the structure in long term Neji will win such confrontation. Nashikeine wrote: Kidomaru has to create new webs, wasting chakra, Gaara doesnt.

Neji survived Kidomaru because of a skill he used in their battle, which he had not shown in the Chunin Exams. he only redirected the attacks a bit to misss his vital points, but recieved great damage. they werent going head to head in CQC to show the difference in power.

You keep bringing the Kidomaru fight which happened after the exams and showed how all those five had grown, which means some of the skills used in this battle are not skills Neji could use in the Chunin Exams.

also in Kidomaru fight, Kidomaru essentially stopped Rotation, by restricting Neji's hands and legs with his webs. Gaara can do the same with his sand. he can simpky have the earth beneath Neji to turn to sand and grab on his legs or scatter his snad in tiny particles all around and gather at the right moment to restrict Neji.

Nashikeine wrote: the damage with Rotation is only going to be reversed if Gaara is going to engage him in CQC, which Gaara isnt. take the Kidomaru example, which you for odd reason despite knowing that it happened after the exmas and such most of the skills are invalid, the Rotation did not backfire on Kidomaru. How is Neji going to knock Gaara's tenketsu if he cannot bypass the first line of sand defence as he doesnot have the kind of speed of Lee to get past it. OH BTW, you keep bringing in Kidomaru, then hope you did not forget that Kidomaru in base with his armour withstood 64 Palms. his armour is infused with Chakra, just like Gaara's sand, which goes up to become his Sand armour. I am pretty sure in previous post i clearly stated that why Kidomaru's armor is superior to Gaara's. It regenerates unlike Gaara whose armor will completely be demolished. Kidomaru was long range combatant with exceptional vision, excellent CQC abilities alongside his long combat skills. On the other hand Gaara is mid range, and very very bad at CQC. Not to mention once his armor is over nothing will save him from Gentle Fist. Naruto only survives thanks to his overall training in Taijutsu and using Kurama's Chakra. Gaara can't do anything to surprise Neji, lets be clear about it. Byakugan will forsee it not to mention a single tenketsu release would probably make the snad Dead sand again just like what he did to those Webs of Kidomaru. Neji had only problems with the projectile coming from his blindspot. This is not gonna happen with Gaara as he is mid range and at that distance the blindspot would be very much smaller for Gaara to take advantage. Nashikeine wrote: first of all, there is no mention of Neji having the speed of weightless Lee. it is not mentioned anywhere and neither does he show something along the line.

just because Neji defeats Lee all the time does not mean he has greater speed than Lee. he is more powerful shinobi, agreed, but not in terms of speed, which is essentially the key to get past Gaara's sand defence.

and as i said before, all Neji has to do to defeat Lee is strike him once with Gentle Fist. lee has no defence against any sort of attack from Neji. this is nowehre a contest of speed between the two. you yourself make this point about how Strong fist is not good against Gentle Fist as it is not even a contest of speed let alone power. all Neji has to do is strike him once at one tenketsu or hit him with Gentle fist and do internal injury. Jeez. Well its neither mentioned that Lee was faster than Naruto with Kurama cloak was it? Just as matter of fact it takes Gates Lee(3rd Gate) in the War to match Haku in the 4th Great Ninja War. Neji was competing with this Naruto. That speed isn't anything special for neji to counter or attack at. All I am pointing out here is again that Gaara's style could probably lose out to Gentle Fist again as it relies too much on raw chakra. Nashikeine wrote: Neji wasnt keeping up with Naruto. his eyes were able to follow Naruto's fast moment. he was forced to use Rotation to even block a few shuriken because he couldnt keep up in body. the spinning of the Rotation slowed the shuriken and allowed him to catch them.

the Kyubi Chakra didnt seem like it froze Gaara, but more like shocked him to his core. he probably wasnt expecting another jinchuriki or that level of power. He did, quite a few times like when Naruto rushes towards him for CQC, not to mention rotation by itself shows formidable speed. Also those wasn't just some shurikens they were powered by the cloak. If you don't realise the fatality of those shurikens perhaps you could remember how easily haku is pounded by Naruto into submission and near immoblise state.

Nashikeine wrote:

Yeah. Neji can see and attack opponents faster than him, but how is this going to help him against Gaara's defence. he isnt supposed to be reacting to Gaara's defence, rather Gaara's defence reacts to his strike. Neji has to make the move and not see through a move. no matter of his reaction time is going to help him here.

to bypass Gaara's defence he has to be fast as Lee, which he isnt and you seem agree too. Like I said once Gentle Fist comes into effect, the sand will just die down. I made speed argument to only point out reaction speed of Neji which will easily react to any sand attack from Gaara. Sand Barrage /Sand Bullets would easily be countered by rotation.