Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34436445-20180524115106/@comment-26107879-20180525235218

These arguments are sad. You are comparing Minato's speed to Naruto with him going against a kid like Boruto? I'm not even going to acknowledge that idiotic statement. Naruto in base has little to no speed feats. Show me someone who is fast that he actually went up against, then we'll talk.

Naruto Durability > Minato's? Naruto literally fell to his knees when pierced by Shin's sword while in KCM, meanwhile base Minato stood tall even with Kurama's claw inside his chest and still extracted half of full Kurama's soul with the Shinigami and sealed the other half in Naruto. Get out with that bullshit.

Sage Mode? Sure Naruto can maintain his longer, but what does that help? Minato goes into his instantly, and all he needs his for is one attack. His base speed and reaction speed are superior to base Naruto's in every way, and when you put them both in Sage Mode, Naruto is barely as good as Minato's base form /Maybe/.

Rasengan? Prove that Naruto's is superior. Minato showed that he could form large Rasengans just as Naruto.

@Vlado

"Minato was in KCM when he did that, not in base.So yes, it`s understandable why he was able to create such a large rasengan." You have no proof that was due to Kurama. Minato has enough reserves to summon Gamabunta, teleport a Bijuu, perform Sage Mode, spam Flying Raijin which takes three high Jonin to even use once, etc. He has enough reserves to make a large Rasengan if he needs to. However, it is stated he values speed, so it's rare for him to ever take the time to use time consuming techniques unless he has to.

As for the whole multiple shadow clones + sage mode. Unless one of you can prove Naruto can now make more than five Shadow Clones with Sage Mode unlike he couldn't before without the help of Kurama, then I don't want to hear that bullshit argument. Naruto himself stated he couldn't even make more than 5 shadow clones and maintain Sage Mode, so if you think he's making hundreds, you're extremely delusional.

And the Third Raikage feat is due to reaction speed. Minato's reaction speed is shown to be superior. Naruto can't even react to a sword a few feet in front of his face.

Base Naruto is overhyped. He needed KCM to deal with Shin. Sakura dealt with Shin with ease. That just goes to show how Naruto has fallen in base form.