Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-34436445-20180613173319/@comment-31099706-20180701113611

LoneNinja wrote: Damn. People hype the Uchiha way too much. It's only a handful of clan members that could be wiped out in a single night by two people. The shinobi of the Leaf is about 14 thousand deep without the Uchiha according to the Allied Force.

Where was that even implied? 14,000 shinobi? Isn't that a little far fetched? I'm sure the allied forces supplied up alot of other small hidden villages from them. Maybe three hundred or four shinobi, the other rest can't be possible(Or maybe it can, like can you refer me to any chapter or something of it, please)

And no, it was a sudden attack while other Uchihas were sleeping and Eating their dinner that Itachi came with a sword and a out of nowhere slice them with a sword.

Itachi himself didn't even think the Uchiha could win when Danzo gave him the ultimatum. Even if they could take out the elder council, I doubt any other clan would abide by them. Uchiha are a powerful clan, but they aren't gods. I doubt they can take on a combine force of the Anbu, 14 thousand Shinobi, Hyuga, Akimichi, Nara, Sarutobi, etc. Don't matter how powerful their eyes are, they can't work on thousands with just enough members that can be wiped in a single night.

Itachi never doubted of their victory…. It was just the aftermath of the coup, that is a civil war, and other villages finally taking advantage of it that worried him.

And what worried him the most was the countless bloodshed. If the Uchiha resorted to war, then it will lead to blood of the Uchiha + Blood of other clan members and Villagers. If he stops the war, that is, kill all the Uchiha, then it will lead to just the spilling of the Uchiha blood. As a pacifist, he picked the one to clean the less of.

Plus, just like I said, the Uchiha can control anyone with just a glance, basically, adding two people from the opponents side to their force. Plus, their Izanagi, allows them to have three lives at best. And let me not count the Nine tails.

I don't see how anyone can say the Uchiha would win and protect the village when the Manga itself says otherwise. The Manga is fact, and the Manga states the Uchiha wouldn't have won, whether Itachi was with them or not. Nor would either side be able to protect the village from a war not just involving villages, but countries itself. The fact that Itachi witnessed countless people slaughtered in cold blood during the 3rd War, just shows the Uchiha just aren't as powerful as everyone seems to think if they can't even keep the war away from their own back yard. And that was with the village. What's going to happen when they're resented and dealing with retaliation? Bye Konoha. The scene you're talking about was a scene of various enemies and leaf shinobi fighting against each other, there weren't much Uchiha shown there and we can see that the ground is left with bodies without Fugaku being damaged much, so I say that's an accomplishment on their side, if anything.

LoneNinja wrote: No. I mean Itachi. The guy who wiped his clan out when Danzo told him he knew his clan didn't have a chance of winning and gave him an ultimatum. Join his clan's side and be wiped out with them, or wipe them out himself and protect his little brother. He chose the latter.

Yeah…. Cause you know, Danzo was given the noble shinobi award six times. It was obvious that Danzo wouldn't say that they don't have a chance, which wouldn't help him in threatening down Itachi for his brother's life.

Anbu are not just some mindless drones. Just because the Hokage is killed doesn't mean the entire village falls in line. Or if the Hokage is deemed corrupted, they're written off (example: Danzo). Orochimaru killed Hiruzen, yet resistance was still there. No one just said. "Oh, our Hokage's dead, we lost. Let's just comply now." No. The village kept on fighting, it'd be no different against the Uchiha.

Obito controlled the Mist by controlling/acting as the Mizukage. He did some crazy things without anyone suspecting a thing, and Orochimaru literally disvyised as the Kage and controlled them to attack Konoha. so the clan that controls the police work can easily control the village till he needs them. After a while, Shisui can easily make Hiruzen make Fugaku the Hokage, and no one can say anything about it.

And as I've said, The Uchiha never planned for a violent coup. That shows that they are going to take out the heads and take them as hostage and probably control them as puppets like what Obito did to the Mizukage and Mist and what Orochimaru did with the Sand? What more can happen? Danzo tried to gain the whole shinobi allience under his control.

And the Sand attacked while all the shinobi were busy on the Chunnin exams, obviously. They obviously can't attack straight on, especially with plus the Uchiha clan in the village(The clan that were feared for a cery specific reason). But the fact that it will lead to bloodhsed is ineviteble, but then again, will the Sand even attack? The Sand were tricked by Orochimaru. It was only Orochimaru's interest that made them attack the clan. And for someone like Orochimaru, making good relations to the clan he's obsessed with, would be his top priority.