Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20171015104231/@comment-32617252-20171016014117

jiraya was a real monster. experience puts jiraya above the like of almost all the shinobi out there. like, he is easily between the top 10 of most experienced out there. sasuke has a few good battles, but it doenst even compare. sasuke is a fighting genius. nothing more, nothing less. but jiraya has good stats in almost all fields. sure, sasuke still wins by most feats, but if it were any sasuke besides for this, adult one, he would lose.