Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26998824-20150919013222/@comment-26675690-20150919205024

Curse of Hatred wrote: You're assuming he's completely helpless while he's crouching, as if he can only do one thing at a time. Either way, regardless of if he can or can't sense it, if a summoned chameleon suddenly turns invisible I think Minato has enough battle smarts to be more alert for when it might attack. Seeing as on the Kannabi bridge mission he spent a few seconds concentrating to find a few Jonin he can't do it to Nagato. And while he can move so can the chameleon.

Curse of Hatred wrote: If you genuinely think that SM Jiraiya and Naruto are equal to Minato in speed then there is no point in debating further. QuakingStar said that Minato is barely faster than a 14 year old Obito, which is debatable but I can see his side and he has a good point. But to say that because Nagato can match Jiraiya and Naruto means that he's fast enough for Minato is like saying that because Konohamaru temporarily defeated one of the six paths, he's stronger than Hinata who didn't take out any. Also, I can accept that Nagato would probably win by overwhelming Minato, or absorbing his chakra, removing his soul, predicting where Minato would go with FTG or practically anything except speed. Minato's entire fighting style orbits around the fact the he is the fastest ninja, to the point where Ay with his lightning release chakra mode couldn't catch him. If you seriously think Nagato is as fast as that, then I don't know what else to say. Okay I can see where you'd be confused by what I said but my point was that if Yahiko and all the other Paths' bodies, which had been dead for 10+ years each, can keep up with SM users why would his actual body not be able to move as fast/keep up with Minato when the Deva Path could beat a V.2 6-Tailed Naruto. Curse of Hatred wrote: Obito didn't use the powers of the six paths though, and neither did the jins. Not sure whether that means he can't though. But he could still fight alongside six other bodies with shared vision while also taking in the Sharingans high-res sight. Then he goes ahead an starts using 6 v.2 cloaks before using 5 Biju Modes. If he can do all that while being a newb with one Rinnegan, why can't Nagato who is an expert at this form of combat and has two Rinnegan.