Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36512555-20200202084241/@comment-34656247-20200208193226


 * @Squinty...Bold of you to assume he'd get to go in sage mode to use those moves...but like the above said, water stifles sound. And he can easily turn the swamp into a muddy sea and waltz out.


 * If that was the case then Itachi would've made Pein an exception. But he didn't lie according to you so it counts.
 * The destroying universe came from the manga, and it's obvious hype from the mangaka which you're not seeing, what counters would Jiraiya have to Pein's gravitational abilities? he won't even enter sage mode lmao, Shinra tensei hardcounters that, Itachi and Kisame chills on the sidelines..
 * My point on his speed still stands, he matched Kakashi in speed, Jiraiya should be no problem. This is absolute Jiraiya wanking. He has no counter to Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, SOT either, idk what you're seeing man.


 * When I asked for you to back it up, i expected a manga scan of Kisame in doubt...