Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36351381-20180807023617/@comment-34194151-20180809222655

I agree the kakashi fight vs obito especially in the anime was pretty lit, a fan favourite. kakashi fought in character, using earth walls and clone feints, and we got to see more of what obito could do when he isn't using kamui. In the manga they seemed to just be doing mostly taijutsu. The anime makes it seem like an even fight but the manga it seems more like jobbing. Obtio clashed and sparred with him and while he likely was tired from early fighting, it just seemed like he was waiting for kakashi to run him through with raikiri. Once kakashi finally went for it obito had no trouble trading blows, and he stabbed kakashi for good measure (so that obito would be able to escape after the clash), but I don't think he wanted to kill kakashi. I think he wanted kakashi to join him in the dream world.

@Dev, I don't think kakashi is fodder lol. I think that he is strong ninja and clever but a bit overrated, he is low kage level. Its not his fault though. he is good at clone feints, but can't spam due to average chakra reserves. He has good experience and eye of insight with sharingan, but his stamina doesn't last long due to lack of uchiha body. He can copy abilities and use them against his opponent for psychological warfare and then use this ability to create an opening, but so much for that when most of his opponents used kekkai genkai or other hax that he wouldn't be able to copy and counter effectively. he is said to have 1000 jutsus, but how much of them are useful, he uses like the same couple of jutsu every fight: earth wall/hiding like a mole, clone feint, raikiri variants, the occasional water style. when he is up against an unorthodox opponent, he has shown good strategy, but outside of zabuza he has come up short. You would think that with 1000 jutsu, it ok for him to have favorites/generic combos, but when they don't work, you would expect him to bust out something new from his supposedly massive arsenal. Kamui gg is also overrated, outside of his DMS form.

Against Obito, even without rinnegan, he is outclassed. Obito outstats him. Obito doesn't fall for copy ninja tricks due to his own sharingan. Obito has comparable taijutsu. Obito also apparently has closed the intelligence gap too, kakashi might still be slightly smarter, but it doesn't matter.