Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-45325938-20200329160854/@comment-43776375-20200330172629

The amount of sage chakra one immediately gets is proportional to their base (or whatever state they were in prior to entering SM) reserve. When alive, Minato was shown summoning Gamabunta, teleporting a TBB, and teleporting 100% Kurama (three very chakra-intensive tasks). As an Edo, he casually teleported the Juubi's gargantuan TBB. So to have enough chakra to do all of that in base and enter perfect SM (which requires the perfectly balancing the base chakra and natural energy) but run out of sage chakra after one use of what is arguably his most chakra-efficient jutsu makes no sense whatsoever. It's not directly proportional, you need to knead the sage chakra, you need large reserves so the nature enegry doesn't take over your body but if X has 10 chakra and Y has 100 chakra and they knead chakra at the same speed they'll produce the same quantity of sage chakra if we cap it at 10

Minato simply having a summoning contract with the toads is not enough to assume that he learned SM. Naruto learned SM 3 years after forming a summoning contract with the toads. It wasn't until Jiraiya's death that Fukasaku proposed the idea to teach Naruto how to obtain SM. Fukasaku made no mention of Minato during Naruto's SM training despite knowing (IIRC) the latter wants to be Hokage. To add the cherry on top, Minato didn't even mention himself when he saw Naruto use SM and didn't try to enter it in TBM when he saw Naruto do it. Minato having SM definitely came out of no where.

Just to contribute to the main topic, I don't see pre-Hag boost SM Naruto even beating base Minato. Learning SM 3 years after is a huge deal, expecially if you consider that when Naruto made the contract SM was the last thing he should've think of considering his ability in kneading chakra, but as a 16 year old he already undergo the training surely with the concession that it was necessary, but I don't see how this goes aganist my point

Minato isn't good with SM so why would he chose to enter the state to make a giant rasengan if he already divided the roles with his son?