Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-27660682-20160303202000

Ok. So normal ultra rasengan failed to breach rib cage susanoo. With senjutsu influence, it supposedly can carve away a mountain. when was there a precedent for susanoo's having different durability? If it does, where is the proof and how much does it differ between users? Alll of that is speculation. And it would be absurd to say that madara's rib cage> itachi's armored susanoo. And how is a mountain the same durability as susanoo which has been able to tank mountain busting attacks with seemingly ease?

Secondly, itachi saying that is just a ploy. Even versus kakashi, kakashi asked why he doesnt just kill him. Itachi only told kisame to kill him after kakashi revealed intel on akatsuki, and do you think that it wouldn't be SUPER suspicious to kisame if itachi let kakashi live after saying that? Itachi said jiraiya was unbeatable so they could lure him away using the woman, that way they get to naruto without much complication. And was a ploy to bring out sasuke as well who was happy to jump at a chance for revenge. Do you really think itachi was really gonna capture naruto then? He had a plan, and jiraiya coming back gave good closure for escape. Itachi told kisame that they weren't there to start a war nor where they there to get injured, so of course he said jiraiya is no match for them. Itachi is not taking down jiraiya without the whole village noticing, and like I said, Guy was coming too. Guy happened to get there late.