Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28668535-20160902020225/@comment-3365837-20160907221951

AsianReaper wrote: @Andy Roque, Kakashi by this point already warped a speeding nail and missile away, it doesn't take him that long.

The only reason Obito couldn't counter the mark was because the first time it was used he didn't know it was there. The second time, he was basically dead from Kakashi's Raikiri before absorbing the Juubi.

Kakashi could counter it by staying in the ground, if Minato teleports there then Kakashi has the advantage because he can move much easier in there. Same goes for water; he has a lot of options. Kakashi usually has a lot of options. In either one, he could activate Raikiri and electrocute the mess out of Minato, which would numb his body and slow him down at least a fraction. If Bee can react to Minato, Kakashi and Obito can.

Minato doesn't go "beast mode" and start teleporting in and slicing necks. Same principle as Kakashi not warping anyone's head off. It's not their playstyle.

It's pre war, sure, but it's been many years since they last fought. Obito's skills as a 14 year old were less than that of his adult self by a mile. He was called Madara's near mirror, and everyone believed he was Madara for awhile.

Many Shinobi have recognized others by voice. Minato failed there.

'''EDIT: Oh yeah and there is a point in talking about what ifs in the bell test. Because Minato himself wasn't sure if he could keep the bells away from Kakashi, when he was only like 12 or 13. That's testament to his skill right there'''

The speeding nail was tiny and still took time, the missile was bigger and took much longer, so an entire person is gonna be fine especially when he can teleport instantly. Obito still doesn't know how to counter it, it doesn't matter why, he doesn't know how. And even if kakashi hides in the ground, just as he can teleport in to the ground, Minato can instantly teleport out. And Raikiri isn't fast enough to hit someone that can teleport, especially when it's so noisy that Minato knows exactly when it's coming. Kakashi and Obito can react to Minato, but neither of them have blades. They especially can't react faster than the Celestial Air Slice. Minato didn't fail to recognize Obito's voice, he would've recognized the voice, had he not gone through puberty and was changing his voice on purpose. Also, it's not a testament to Kakashi's skill that he didn't fail miserable against a teacher that was holding back.