Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24168857-20141020124144/@comment-25478058-20141020214815

I've been dying to talk about this... there was a thread about it but not specifically for this topic only.

I think Guy would win! I really do. Even with Kakashi's kamui, Kakashi has huge chakra limitations. Or rather, he probably has plenty of chakra for an average ninja, but kakashi blows it all on hakra-sucking moves. This battle would likely come down to taijutsu in the end, and that's where Kakashi would lose. To beat Guy, Kakashi would have to strike first and definitively, which as Chouza noted during the pain arc, is not his style. But since he knows Guy so well, he might give it a shot. But if say that raikiri or kamui misses, kakashi has to recharge for his next shot, so he goes on the defensive, which is not where you wanna be against Guy.

Naturally I'm talking about one-mangekyou kakashi and up to 7th gate guy. Eigth gate guy and 2 mangekyou/susanoo kakashi would be a very different fight. Can Guy break a susanoo? Tsunade can, but she uses chakra to punch. If Guy can break a susanoo then that's a better fight, but if not, Kakashi may be able to just wait out the Night Moth or whatever it's called, which appeared to be Madara's strategy even without a susanoo.

So I think double-mangekyou Kakashi would beat guy (since he's just so damn op tbh) but otherwise Guy would win.

In a base adult Gai, no gates, and a base adult Kakashi with no sharingan, Kakashi might have the edge again just because he will use elemental ninjutsu and Guy won't.