Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25178263-20140908223855/@comment-25272406-20140918235823

I think that most of the battles between Hashirama and Madara were bullshit and that Hashirama is only stronger because of plot reasons (like ItachiWasAHero said about Naruto and Sasuke)

When Madara fought against Hashirama, when he used the EMS for the first time. He used the Perfect Susanoo against the Mokuton Golem + Dragons and Madara had the upper hand in this fight .....skip..... Hashirama won. I mean how? Did he already use Sage Mode and the Thousand Hand Golem in this fight ? Shouldn't Madara be able to make up a strategy against it then?

The next fight at the Valley of the End was ok ^^ Hashirama won with his Thousand Hand Golem but he was totally worn out.

At the war both were Edo Tenseis, so both had unlimited chakra and were immortal. Madara can use every Mokuton technique of Hashirama (except the Thousand Hand Golem), so he should be able to counter them with his own. (Hashirama could have enhanced his Mokuton techniques with Sage Mode, but still Madara should be able to nearly counter them or to enhance his Mokuton techniques with I don't know Susanoo armor with chakra laser beams ^^ ) Then he didn't use any Rinnegan technique against Hashirama (he could use Shinra Tensei, Shibaku Tensei, Tengai Shinsei or the chakra laser beam whatever)

So I think it's difficult to say that Edo Hashirama is stronger than Edo Madara, when Madara didn't fought with all his possible strength in Edo Tensei. I mean he didn't use Mokuton jutsus or Rinnegan jutsus against Hashirama. (When I remember correctly Madara was defeated by the Wood Dragon and the Wood Golem, but in their previous fights it was shown that the Perfect Susanoo is stronger than both of them together)