Talk:Tailed Beast Ball

Why the heck are there seperate articles for each level of the menacing ball? MERGE OR DELETE! 74.236.92.133 (talk) 23:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, if I am correct about it's intention, it was made to follow the same properties of the category jutsu pages (such as Ninjutsu, Senjutsu, ect). That's really the only reason why this page survived the week it was made.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 02:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu
I only listed it as a Tailed Beast Skill which it is and technically, it is the Tailed Beasts Skills article that should be categorized as a jutsu type.
 * It is a jutsu type, as in a type of jutsu, not a jutsu itself, since nobody actually uses "menacing ball." Simant (talk) 22:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Think of this like a disambiguation page, such as Eight Trigrams or Red Secret Technique. ~SnapperTo 23:52, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

What about Tailed Beasts Skills? Surely you aren't suggesting that the Menacing Ball isn't a Tailed Beast Skill? User:Atrulean Starkiller November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Menacing Ball is basically a subtype of Tailed Beast Skill. Tailed Beast Skill encompasses all things that are unique to the tailed beast, with Menacing Ball being subtype of the super thing. Or because...Snapper mentioned put it's basically a disambiguation.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:13, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

All right, I guess you made your point so I won't categorize it as a jutsu. User:Atrulean Starkiller November 17, 2009

Nine
I'm indifferent to combining all the menacing balls into one article, but I do think they should be split just by beast, not beast and tail-count. The demon fox, with 497 out, now has four iterations of the same thing. Overkill much? ~SnapperTo 23:33, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You know what. The hell with it. Give me one moment.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:35, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Would that suffice?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:52, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think so. Where did the name for the Four-Tailed version of this came from? I just looked through ShounenSuki's translations, and that wasn't a jutsu listed in the databook. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:54, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ultimate Ninja 4--Deva 27 (talk) 23:56, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * That explains it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:56, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not that it matters anymore anyway. I will let common sense rule the day today, giving that the only thing different is the letters/kanji/whatever before "ki Imari", the name I put here will suffice.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:58, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Following that logic, should the Two and Three Tailed beasts have their species added to the technique they use? They ones with elements in it, or should they simply be changed to "Two-Tailed Cat Menacing Ball" and "Three-Tailed Turtle Menacing Ball"? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:03, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't matter in the long run I suppose.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:05, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Tailed Beast Bomb
I want to make sure that, The Translators got this Right, Is it really called Tailed beast Bomb or is it just Menacing Ball?

Come on guys it clearly says bomb in the chapter.

According to wikipedia (and they usually have correct chapter names), this chapter's name is written in kanji as 尾獣玉, which according to them translates to Tailed Beast Ball. The 尾獣 is a given, and the 玉 is the same used in Danzō's Wind Release techniques and in Sasori's Akatsuki ring. It can be translated both as "ball" and "sphere", if I'm not mistaken. I would rather use sphere, but I can live with ball. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:51, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh thanks for clearing that up. So the translator just used "bomb" to make it sound "cooler"?

Sort of. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:06, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Merge
Since we know the name of it now, can we simply merge all the "menacing ball" pages here? All we need is to put an infobox here and string together the information from the other pages. Also, since the Eight-Tails said this is the ultimate attack of a tailed beast, should all of them be listed as users? Not sure if that would include the Ten-Tails, but definitely one through nine. I believe Bee and Yugito should also be listed, since they were shown to willingly transform and use the technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:06, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:48, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, but I wouldn't add the Ten-Tails yet. It is not really a tailed beast, after all. —ShounenSuki (talk 01:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, and redirected the other menacing ball pages here. Reply here if something isn't right. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Should Naruto be placed here, Since he was able to use this Technique or Minor Version of it, In his 4/6 Tails Mode? UchihaSakudo (talk) 23:40, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nine-Tails was in control, not him, this is why before the actual name came up, only the Nine-Tails was listed as a user in the technique article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:59, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, He also Kinda did this, In his Controlled Chakra Form, He tried to use the Rasengan, but Instead it turned into a Different Version of this Technique, Even Killer Bee said, It was like the Same thing UchihaSakudo (talk) 00:11, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Similar ≠ the same and the Rasengan failed. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:14, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, You got me There, Though it was a Tailed Beast Ball Rasengan, That makes it a Rasengan and a Tailed Beast Ball, Doesn't it? Even If it Failed, He still did it UchihaSakudo (talk) 00:23, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * For a jinchūriki, I understand performing a Tailed Beast Ball as turning into the Tailed Beast while maintaining control over it and then using the technique. Eight-Tails said it itself that you can't use it if you're not fully transformed. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:28, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Throwing this thought out there: All the beasts can use this, but the technique we have seen them use are descendants of this technique. Then haven't we killed jutsu pages? S im A nt 00:50, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Forgive me Simant, but I'm stupid today. uh, what?--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 00:52, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I forgot the word "if". "if the techniques we have seen them use so far". Fire/Water/Wind/Ink is not the black and white this technique describes. S im A nt 01:21, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * A none issue, in my opinion. Before Kishimoto decided to make them these, the Menacing Balls (I prefer this. Sounds more...well, Demon)where raw chakra fired. The anime simply followed suit. in my opinion, all that's changed now is that the Menacing Fire and Menacing Water Balls mixed elemental chakra with the yin-yang.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 01:30, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Simant; One's wind, Two's flames, and Three's water do not fit the definition of this ability. ~SnapperTo 02:35, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for jumping in, so now the separate Nine-tails and eight-tails menacing Ball pages have been taken down and info has been merged, correct? Questionaredude (talk) 03:56, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * @SimAnt: At first glance, I would agree with you, but I took a closer look at the Hachibi's Bijūdama and it also seems to be elemental. Electric to be exact. —12:12, December 6, 2010 (UTC)