Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3965545-20170621043245/@comment-27797856-20170622162248

Rachin123 wrote: ''Oh please. Jiraiya is great and all, but there is no way in hell that he could defeat Kisame and Itachi together.'' That is what you call overhyping.

We can literally put in every feat for them, and we know that Jiraiya loses.

That statement might've worked back, then but after more of their abilities were expanded upon and you know Itachi actually being a good guy, it is clear that Itachi was just saying that because he didn't want to fight an unnecessary battle. All he wanted to do was check on Danzo and Sasuke. See, but you're just assuming that...

We were given factual information, and you're putting your spin on it to appease your own conclusions on Itachi's abilities.

"Don't. Forget. The. Plot. Armour." is something I'd like to remind you and everyone else. Jiraiya took on Rinnegan users (and Konan, but who gives a damn...). Rinnegan is said to be the most broken ability in narutoverse, and Jiraiya chose to die during that fight.

And, as mentioned, Kishi made Susanoo way too overpowered, with little-to-no drawbacks..