Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-43375713-20200830081205

Ninja Of War wrote: BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Do I really have to make an essay for you to get this? They count FTG as the users speed when it really isn't. Again, that specific manga heading didn't mention FTG or speed, so all I'm hearing is conjecture on your part. If you're making an assumption on the context, instead of face-value, then fine. But that remains an assumption.

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Minato is not as strong, as durable he damn sure doesn't have as much chakra as A4 either. Literally all Minato has on him is FTG and that is all we ever see Minato doing. A himself is faster than Minato, he just ISN'T faster than FTG and why? Because it is instant. Except chapter 542 shows Minato moving while Ay couldn't, with motion-lines that even you acknowledged. I'll concede on a foot race, even though we see in combat speed Minato beats Ay.

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: A's words himself to Naruto in PRESENT, pertaining to their past battles is that they EXCHANGED blows and Minato was a noble man and "a finer Shinobi never lived". Minato never defeated A, A never defeated Minato and that much was made clear. I don't see how you can disregard the context of "Exchanging blows with Minato" and not see any subsequent context of combat ability from "A finer Shinobi never lived". It's literally the previous statement.

It's your assumption that Minato never defeated Ay, because we actually see Minato fending off both Ay and Bee, and then retreating due to the mission he was on. Anything else is baseless conjecture. Previously, you said Ay, wasn't sweating or worried in ch542, well, in ch543, both Ay and Bee are sweating, while Minato is not. BloodOfTheArchon wrote:

You REALLLLLY want Minato to be the best like he's some Otsutsuki level speed monster compared to A in every aspect but he's not and no, I'm not sorry. I have said before I'd happily concede if you can actually prove the statements you are spouting. That's all. BloodOfTheArchon wrote: You can comment over and over again with the same BS that is exactly that.. BS. It won't change anything. Minato and A are rivals and are equal, A saying he was a fine Shinobi has nothing to do with his abilities otherwise Itachi is above Hashirama. You're hypocrites and that has not changed sadly. Calling our proof BS doesn't make it BS though. You have made several inaccurate statements, baseless conjecture and things you have been plain wrong about. If you cant own your mistakes and learn from it, that's one thing. But us not going along with it doesn't make us hypocrites.

And also, you sound like @Tyhandles now, using irrelevant comparisons.

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: edit

I notice you seem to be interpreting this as me saying Minato himself is weak and slow or something and that is entirely incorrect. No, you don't take the merits of the points we're making. So, I interpret this as you arguing for the sake of arguing. it's not an irrelevant comparison minato has no physical speed feats only reaction that alone should prove  raiakge faster physically all of mianto feats are reactions