Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180728104553/@comment-34194151-20180730180113

@Legion Zero

Konan blinded him with a huge amount of papers and his initial read was correct, he had an idea she was trying to overhwlem him and bait him into materializing, so he did the right move and let the papers pass through until he could see what she was trying to do. That was the only "shits and giggles part" But right AFTER that, Konan appears and he grabs her, and he basically believed he won ( evidenced by him saying "YOU'RE FINISHED" and didn't think konan was capable of anything else, until she surprised him with the paper bombs. You clearly see the excalamation point. He can't suck things in and be intangible at the same time so he had no choice but to hope he teleported away the bombs in time. He is lucky his arm was the only thing that was blown off. A second later and he might have been dead, hence him saying : "I took you too lightly". He assumed Konan was a scrub apparently and was proven wrong. I'm not saying that Konan is superior to Obito, but he was outmanuevered and suprised in that instance, Konan exceeded his expectations. If obito was just about "shits and giggles" surely he realized that would be stupid, why risk dying when getting the Rinnegan means everything to him? Doesn't make sense.

15 years of prep?? Based on what? She observed him during their 15 years together while they were still allies and uncovered the secrets of his kamui, even somehow learning that 5 minutes was his limit. After Nagato died it was clear she was gonna betray him, she made the paper bomb trap then and waited for him to seek her out. There is no proof that she spent 15 years preparing a trap for someone she didn't even know she was gonna betray. With the knowledge she had, the trap was perfect. Obito in the end was smarter, as he kept "fail safes" while Konan didn't keep a fail safe in the event her big plan failed.

You don't have to be on par with someone to outsmart them. Konohamru almost killed a path of pein by outsmarting him in an instance, even though konohmaru is nowhere near his level. Naruto and kakashi were in a friendly bout, but the point is naruto outmanuevered kakashi, he was clearly surprised naruto took his back. Additionally, are we forgetting who came up with the plan to save kakashi from the water prison when kakashi screwed up? Orochimaru was also suprised by sasuke's attack too, it only failed because it wasn't gonna kill him regardless if i remember correctly.