Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27418151-20160124021607/@comment-26773508-20160125152950

QuakingStar wrote: I guess you have never paid attention to any of my previous posts on the matter. I won't be explaining it again. Kishi's facts beat your opinion. Go look at Hiruzen's page and use your brain. Yeah I went back to Hiruzen's page. There was nothing about him being stronger than EMS Madara. The only thing in that page that comes remotely close to your claims is a sentence that says that Hiruzen was considered the strongest Hokage in Konoha's history, and a reference is given to back up that claim. And guess what it was? Chapter 94 of the manga series, which I presume is the chapter with Kabuto consoling a defeated Orochimaru after Hiruzen owned his slimy ass. And we all know that shit has been RETCONNED.

So no, there are no "Kishi's facts" in this wiki as you claim; only QuakingStar's unsubstantiated nonsense in the vs threads. The burden of proof is on you, mate. Show the relevant manga chapter or databook translation if you want to be taken seriously. And the databook translation better be verified by other translators as well.