Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180814115037

@Combat....'''Lol the only running speed feat we have for obito pre war-arc is apparently keeping up with minato's running speed. which still puts obito above old hiruzen, tobirama, and hashi, all extremely fast shinobi. But it's a stretch to say that any of those hokage are even faster than V2 ayy on foot. I don't even believe that minato is faster than v2 ayy in footspeed either, only reflexes, body control, and FTG were the clear advantages, because FTG is critical to minato's fighting style'''
 * Tobirama said to Minato fourth your shunshin is better than Mine so now we understand that he used Shunshin at that scene and not just run normally as he did against Obito sooo....All 3 hokages arrived at the same time this can be proof that it wasn't a race! so maybe Minato used the negative emotion sensing thingy and FTG'd away from the pack to arrive faster at the point of danger...and no, they are definitely not faster...or to my knowledge they aren't faster than Ay with just footspeed, Minato proved that, he needed FTG to evade. Lastly Both Minato and Obito were charging at each other and not side by side as you would do in a race, so how exactly can you say he has the exact speed as Minato...i know you said keep up with minato but it will lately go down to him having the same speed as Minato.

'''So while obito is fast, I don't believe obito was kcm speeds until he got the rinnegan. As I said before, he couldn't even speed blitz base kabuto. I doubt even base minato on foot is kcm speed, though he would be close'''
 * Obito that got the rinnegan is simply the same as the Obito that fought Konan as he implanted the rinnegan just ONEE chapter after he defeated Konan....soooo..