Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20160102030534/@comment-27660682-20160228232002

Gmanis41 wrote: @MIGshinobi "Show me proof the abilities of the yata mirror were retconned. Until then anything else you have to say is simply a personal opinion, I go off of facts not personal feelings about what the yata mirror can't block. I dont care if hashirama's attack made a valley, its a ninjutsu/physical attack so yata mirrorwill adapt to it and block it via the writer's own words." No the use of the Yata Mirror was never retconned. Neither was it ever mentioned ever again after the Itachi vs Sasuke fight. And if you are ignoring the scale of attacks that are going to destroy the Yata Mirror then you are blind and plainly not worth responding too if you are going to disregard everything I say. When Killer B and Naruto escaped Turtle Island the barrier they were facing was supposed to adapt to whatever damage it took, but they broke through. The same logic can be used for the Yata Mirror, just because it's ability is to adapt doesn't mean it can. The ten tails was supposed to be impossible to defeat or restrain but Hashirama restrained it like puppy and further more it was defeated my Hagaromo and his brother. Kaguya is supposed to be invincibe yet she was sealed away. Pain never lost a battle but wait Naruto beat him. Madara said his sword can destroy all things in the universe but it couldn't destroy Hashirama's wood golem.

You're using the databook and reading so much into it to fuel your ridiculous belief that Itachi is impossible to defeat. I bet you're going to say that current Naruto and Sasuke would lose to Itachi too.

"totuska blade not being able to pierce through it. Black zetsu called itachi invincible meanwhile didnt call hashi/ madara invincible after seeing their battle." Yeah but you've never seen the Totsuka blade piercing more than a snake's body. So therefore you can't prove that it can pierce Madara's susanoo or Hashirama's wood golem.

"Call me a fanboy all you want, you have no proof backing the claims you made" And I've made proof for my claims, how about you quote what I'm saying and actually refute it?

"Itachi doesnt underestimate people like madara does. Madara underestimated everyone in the war before getting serious. Two completely different personalities." Prove to me that he underestimated anyone past the five kage fight. I doubt he underestimated the power of Naruto and the Ninetales.

If the Preta Path can abosrb anything than why didn't Nagato absorb Amaterasu? He used the deva path and no Madara took off his clothes to avoid Amaterasu.

"The databook has some inconsistencies just like the mnaga itself has some inconsistencies. By your logic the manga isnt a valid source either." No. The difference between the manga and databook inconsistencies are that the manga fixed itself as it progressed. The databook just stays how it is and gets outdated. The manga will always trump whatever databook comes out. I always have said the manga trumps the databook so you just straw-manned me.

You're using the third databook (which is not a reliable source anymore considering the 3 new databooks) to excuse saying your favorite character is impossible to defeat. By your logic no one can defeat Itachi and that is not true.

At this point you won't listen to me. I'm done responding to you as your opinion is clearly false. I don't listen to people who bring personal opinions and insults instead of facts. I asked you for proof that the yata mirror's abilities were retconned, and in your post you brought up points completely irrelevant. Turttle island=/= yata mirror, kaguya =/= yata mirror and so on and so forth.

I dont care if other data books came afterward, databook 3 was written by the writer, and no information in the future databooks refuted what he wrote about the yata mirror. By your logic all information in part one of naruto is false because part 2, shippudden came afterward. Last time I checked, naruto was an uzumaki in part one and was also one in part 2

Not really you used a size argument,. You never heard the saying bigger isnt always better? I dont care if hashriama attack destroyed and created a valley, its a ninjutsu/physical attack. There fore the yata mirror will deflect it just like how it changed in size to counter orochimaru'ssnakes, deflected sasukes sword, as well as the kunai paper bombs without effort. You are basically denying the credibility of Kishimoto. The scale of the attack doesnt matter as the yata mirror will adapt its properties to it. Just like you say there is no proof totuska can pierce wood golem there is no proof that it can't

Madara didnt underestimate anyone? Then why did he say tsunade was weak then retracted his statement when he saw her healing power? Itachi never underestimated anyone. Chapter 673 page 15, madara cockily says naruto can't defeat him.

The manga doesn't always correct it self, a year and a half since it was finished and there are still plot holes.

Itachi can beat naruto. He caught him in genjustu twice canocially and it will happen a third time with tsyukyomi. Meanwhile naruto cant scratch him through the yata mirror. I don't even need to address sasuke as he couldn't even beat an itachi who was sick, holding back, and nearly blind.

Itachi only invincible in 1v1 because he can maintain susanoo/yata mirror long enough. In 2v1 itachi can lose. The 6 paths of pain can beat him cause 6 v1 with shared vision. Like I said both writer and kaguya's will confirm ed him to be invincible while yata mirror is up.

Nagato didnt absorb amaterasu because he didn't activate preta path since he didn't want to hurt naruto bee or itachi. Kabuto had to take over his mind to make him fight Amaterasu is chakra so preta path can absorb it. Go ahead and don't respond, I dont need to deal with your bias, just like you claim itachi is my favorite character I  can play your game and  claim he is your most hated.