Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-43776375-20200516141152

You are adding context to it, not the databook. Then there is no context to it? Like nothing can be said?

I said Madara and Izuna were the first to awaken MS and that by extension, Madara was the first to get EMS Sure that works, but were did you get that Madara and Izuna were the first in the clan hystory to get the MS? Like it's rare but doesn't seem so rare when two brothers both get it, then we have Itachi, Shisui, Obito and Sasuke who also have it

That doesnt make sense You said they were the most powerful ones with the exeption of the aliens, who's what I said about the reincarnations that they stand in the top tier of humanity just below the aliens

Still not a valley, still not destroying mountain ranges It destroyed that it can form a valley, it's not like since it deleted wood then we have to be unsure if it can delete rocks

"Normal" what is that suppose to mean. There are far kinder characters than Naruto. Kindness alone won't do it, this is about Kurama, we agreed on the metod to tame him

Frwt wrote:

Obito, Madara, and Hashirama didnt need Rinnegan to control them -and become a juubi jinchuriki ... what? Just the continuation of what I wrote, it's not just about restraining them somewere

You dont necessarily need the Juubi to gain SPSM. Bringing together portions of their chakra into one vessal should be enough to awaken it. The juubi could be revived using only portions of 2 of the Bijuu

Obito lost his SPSM after losing the all the Bijuu and chapter 666 shows that the Juubi's chakra is really just all of the Bijuu smashed together

In the Sakura Hiden, ninja were avle to create drugs to give themselves Kurama chakra and could even use version 2 cloaks So wait if those syringes work like that you think you can take a bit of chakra of every bijuu and create a juubi syringe that gives you SPSM?

Doesnt matter It matters since Naruto doesn't have the TSB while in base, but when he enters the chakra mode

Technically he was defeated by his own Hell Stab If Deidara blew up when Itachi was recruiting him in the akatsuki I'd say he was defeated by genjutsu, but I guess it's only a point of wiev, anyway, what matters is that we have both the rasengan and the hell stab

Cant tag what you cant touch. The lightnin armor prevents Minato from leaving a mark I'd think that sheningans with seals can let him got trough the armor, but he didn't use them a lot, so I guess rasengan is the only option if we keep ouserves on the small-kind of approach

If we are talking Strength of 100, or large amounts of Hashi cells like Obito, or Hashirama himself... then yes. Madara meant that was better than the regualr healing Tsunade did, cause Hashirama could do it without handseals, Tsunade then relases his seal after
 * Obito had his heart blown out.
 * Tsunade was casually taking Madara's Susanoo squiggly blades through her entire torso. Tsunade also used Strength of 100 after getting stabbrd in the heart by Orochimaru. In one of the Novels Salura survived half her body getting hit with a TBB
 * Hashirama's healing was suppose to be better than Tsunade's soooooo

The reast is pretty fair, tho for deadly hits I meant the ones discussed below

Depends if it is a complete seperation Agree, tho a second slash completes the job if the first one wasn't a clean one

We have seen Sakura/Tsunade/Obito take some nasty hits to the head and be just fine so ima go with yes I don't know what istances you mean here, but I'm talking about things like a kunai in the skull, like, they can survive a kunai in the stomac/heart or a rasengan / chidori on the chest, but you think they'll survive the same attacks but on their heads?

FlatZone wrote: Minato never actually defeated 4th A, because if he did 4th A would be dead. 4th A was also incapable of defeating Minato. 3rd A on the other hand can only be hurt by his own Hell Stab or an extremely powerful and sharp wind release tech and nothing Minato has can do that. Minato is 4th A level over-all. Bunta fires an air bullet and here we have the opening in the armor, tho rasengan also closes the deal