Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28731007-20160627160729/@comment-28247797-20160714002109

@Rachin123 It's true, you can't and haven't been able to argue any of the facts I've stated. I never brought Sakura into the mix, the first guy I was debating with did and said she was good at being evasive along with Tsunade so you're wrong there and I was speaking about the Akatsuki in general and Konan happens to be apart of it. The point I was making there was that she doesn't even stand up too well against most mid-tiers, what is your point?? I also never discredited Tsunade for it, I simply said without it she would've died a few times over and it's evident from what happened. Both of her sides were visibly pierced, one throughout the other. Are you seriously going to try and argue that she would've lived otherwise? Her wounds were fatal, lol. She was even slowing down and coughing up blood in her seal state.

I also stated that she isn't the originator. Hashirama was, she basically made the technique due to him, he's where she got the idea from. Tobirama invented FTG, there were no other before him and he was the first to use the technique/first one to think of it. Tsunade isn't the first person to use it, see the difference? Am I bashing Tsunade for it? Absolutely not it happens all the time, but simply saying she is the creator is false. Also, it doesn't do anything for her from an offense combat perspective, it's just durablity/healing. I asked before and I'll ask again, what does Tsunade have aside from healing that make her Kage tier? Lol, you're literally just proving my point about how you take things out of context and somethings you are just flat out wrong about. If you wanna be taken seriously then argue with facts and logicality. Prove what I'm saying is wrong, if you can't then trying to say I'm somehow biased with nothing but facts present is absolutely moot.

@Namikazenaruto9 It has nothing to do with not understanding something, it's the simple fact that you just said Gaara's sand would have problems going through bones when I gave you three clear examples about how that isn't the case, it has everything to do with your statements simply not being true. You're clearly just making stuff up at this point to aid to your point. "gaara's sand is like pressing a stick from all directions while Tsunade's is like breaking a twig." That's not true, at all. If it were the case then I doubt someone such as Kimimaro would go through the effort of creating an entire exoskelton around his already existing bone structure to prevent from being crushed. You're not quite understanding the potency of Gaara's sand, the correct way to view your analogy would be that both are like snapping a twig except that Gaara's is all over your entire body. A singular punch from Tsunade isn't stronger than a Tsunami wide Sand burial. Why am I even arguing this? This is something that should be obvious and common sense. Gaara has literally one shot people to the point of only blood splatter remains, Tsunade isn't doing that with one punch.

For starters I never brought Madara into this, someone else did when they said she was surviving against his full legged Susano'o and that Madara needing to use his ribcage Susano'o against Tsunade was somehow a feat lol. And once again, you're making stuff up. "Reaction time, overuse of sharingan and so forth on." Lol, what? Madara's reaction time was adjusted in no way, shape or form when he was brought back as Edo tensei. Overuse of sharingan? Madara has the EMS and has had it prior to edo, meaning there are NO drawbacks from him using any Sharingan ability ever. The only thing Madara acquired was Woodstyle from Hashirama and the Rinnegan in his Edo form. But Madara didn't truly even need that to beat the five Kage let alone Tsunade. She has no answer for PS, not only that but Madara is the better all around fighter.

He literally beats Tsunade in every category, speed, stamina, smarts, skill, ninjutsu, genjutsu, reaction time, the only thing she has over him is raw strength but he MORE than makes up for it with his Susano'o that can also give fatal and devastating blows. Thinking Tsunade can be compared to a near god tier is fanfiction all around. She doesn't hold even the slightest of candles to him. Compared to Madara, Tsunade is a joke. Kimimaro is no match for Madara but I never said he was, I'm simply refuting your statement that comparing Tsunade to Madara isn't silly. It is utterly silly at the very least.

Lol funny, because if you would've put Gaara in the same shoes do you honestly think Kabuto would be able to tank his sand tsunami burial? If Kabuto adjusted Gaara's chakra network a tad and he took some pills do you really think he'd be able to tank that? Absolutely not. He'd be near dead if not destroyed, which also serves to show that Gaara's sand Tsunami is EASILY stronger than one of her punches that you refuse to accept. Look, bottomline is Tsunade is nothing in comparison to Madara, she'd lose a fight to Kimmi, Gaara's sand tsunami burial is much stronger than a punch from Tsunade and she doesn't belong in Kage tier because she doesn't offer much from a combative perspective nor would she be able to beat most of any Akatsuki member 1v1.