Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-142748-20160508060324

9 Arts dragon wrote: Sighs

1.Referring to overall combat including close combat which the best he's shown is keeping up with Kakashi and the guy was using intangibility....wow...incredible...

2.Minato won the fight despite Obito knowing him and his powers thus having Intel on him.Also teleportation is not speed.

Nagato would beat the shit out of Obito you've got to be kidding me????? 1. Obito was facing down two perfect Jins, Konoha's taijutsu master, and Konoha's Sharingan master and was winning. He was fighting all four of them at the same time and they couldn't put him down.

2. In this manga, it is. Minato defeated him in a battle of speed since it was the only way he could, and Minato even said he only barely won and that Obito saw through everything he did that night.

And Nagato stomps Obito? How? He can't counter Kamui, and Obito can get to his main body and drop him to the Kamui dimension before he can react. And how does Nagato counter Izanagi?

Seriously, you downplay characters you don't like due to your bias, making your arguments bad.