Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180122204034/@comment-26636534-20180128202447

^Ok, let me stop you right there.

First off, Kakashi had to save Choji and Shikamaru from a Kakuzu enhanced lightning mask. Not an individual mask. The toads can hold their own as explained.

I went and reviewed the manga, and found that the instance you speak of, Kakuzu fending off Kakashi and stopping Choji's punch, didn't occur. It seems it is anime only. So is it really a feat?

Rachin123 wrote: You are not understanding. What I meant by balanced is having high skills in genjutsu (his admission) and taijutsu (Practically featless) like Kakashi does. I only mentioned this because you are doubting that Choji is physically stronger than Jiraiya, despite Jiraiya having no feats to compare. You said the same thing about taijutsu, despite him showing nothing comparable to Kakuzu. You also are the one downplaying Kakuzu's strength when in his Earth Grudge Mode, despite him being able to break through giant steel doors with a barrier placed on it. You downplay his durability, despite surviving being crushed by the Two-Tails with no visible injuries. Do you really think that Jiraiya's Needle Jizo is going to protect him? Do you really think that his Hair Senbon is going to penetrate him. The exact opposite will happen. They'll bounce right off like nothing.

Whoa, hold up, I never said any of that. So don't come at me with false accusations. Also, please don't craft narratives like " Shikamaru barely dodged" and "..obviously Kakuzu wasn't at full speed". Seems like you are downplaying feats lol.

I actually have a strength feat for Jiraiya, he sent those big dogs flying with his roundhouse kick in his battle with Pain. Endurance feat, Jiraiya being slammed by the summoning in the same said battle and bore no visible after effects.