Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34700383-20180930103107

LoneNinja wrote: Where are you reading that from? That isn't even in the anime either. But even so, fool = idiot. It remains the same. Kakashi froze in fear. He didn't freeze against Itachi. But against Orochimaru he just stood there afraid, unable to do anything as he let a wanted rogue criminal walk away. It’s from itachi’ novel. This very forum has multiple official timelines, the novels appear on them all. Itachi > orochimaru. He bested orochimaru already. In fact, it was orochimaru’ loss to Itachi that made him leave the akatsuki. Why would two edos change what the manga makes crystal clear. Itachi wins.

Ninja Of War wrote: @Hag0r0m0

Check again who the OP is. Koto needs to be reprogrammed to be used in combat, then also it comes into question whether koto will be available for use in the first place due to 10 year cool down period. And no, I'm not allowing it just to pander to your assumptions.

Speed feat doesn't exist for the reasons mentioned above, explain to me why my points are invalid. Don't tell me I can't debunk something that is featless. Otherwise I can say that Kurenai is faster than Itachi because she could dodge Itachi's kunai.

Itachi completed missions perfectly? What is meant by that? Killing Obito? Failed. Manipulating Sasuke? Failed. Hindering the Akatsuki? Failed. Unrivaled in efficiency? In what exactly lol. Itachi always been in control of the situations he's put in? Yeah, forgot about when he was reanimated by Kabuto or when he was "forced" to kill off his clan.

My point is not to dismantle each of your points, but to point out that you like to hype up Itachi, but say nothing about how this battle will go. Maybe try to give a rundown of this fight, taking into account how these two combatants will think and how they will fight in their preferred methods.

Novels are not canon, it's not about whether I like it or not.

Why add in more rules on the fly if not to nerf one side of the fight? Your original post did not say koto was already programmed. You must realize that Itachi spent many years alive without sickness. You are deliberately attempting to pick a specific point in the range of time where koto is already programmed. Which sucks for you because I can just as easily point to moments before when it wasn’t programed. Both meet the criteria of the OP. You are free to change the original match, but that in it self is a concession. The speed feat does exist for the reasons mentioned above. Your denial of Itachi’ blatant superior reaction to Naruto and bee is amusing. Those events are solidified. Itachi took several steps back while Naruto and bee were still striking. So tell me again how were they distracted at the that very moment. Chapter 549 pages 5, 11, and 14 you’ll see Itachi and nagato helping bee and Naruto. Page 7 is where you’ll find the blitz, remind me again how were they distraction during their attack?

Why create false equivalences when you can just concede? I take it you haven’t read the novel. Don’t worry it was stated in manga also. His efficiency on missions were perfect. If he treats this fight like another mission, it’s his W. How exactly is orochimaru going to win here? Itachi’ knowledge of jutsu makes him more than prepared.

Yea, but I’m not hyping him. I just gave you evidence of most of what I told you. I got proof of the rest also. So yes, Orochimaru lose and you now know why.