Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34194151-20180107091407/@comment-34194151-20180107102828

Ninja Of War wrote: I disagree. In the instance you speak of, Kakashi tried to blitz tendo pain, by first confining him. This was to eliminate shared vision and to make it impossible for pain to evade. Kakashi didn't know that was tendo pain, with the deva path hax. Not a bad strategy, just didn't work.

In your exhibit two, Kakashi attacked again to deduce the gap between the uses of the deva path, which was found to be five seconds if I recall correctly. That is pretty useful all things considered. Shared vision is a pain (lol) to deal with but I suppose he was looking for a limit to exploit there. Kakashi made a lightning clone at that point as well, so he was going to use deception to take out one pain. So, what was not to your liking then?

In your exhibit 3, Kakashi doesn't know at that point how many pains are in the village, all he knows for sure is that there are two in front of him. According to the sage toad, he knows that each pain has only a single ability so he isn't concerned about them regenerating at that point.

Kakashi acted as we expected he would, so what were you expecting then?

Shikamaru may be smarter but he is not perfect in his consideration or execution of his strategy. Both fights with Hidan and Kakuza are perfect examples of this. That's why the move wasn't smart. You should only confine a fight to close quarters if you know you can win. You just admitted that kakashi didn't know the extent of the Deva abilities, so that means he assumed that he could win the close quarters fight, which is a pretty bad assumption to make. HE set up his attack so that if failed, he was completely vulnerable, and he is lucky that Pain was still just questioning him about naruto, and hadn't resolved to kill kakashi yet.

Also you should reread my post, I already explained in my exhibit 3 how kakashi corrected his mistake. But it doesn't excuse him wasting his limited chakra against a person he knows has way more stamina than him.

In exhibit 3, my point is that he should KNOW that the other pains can intervene at any other time and that they could be revived by some unknown method. How do you think Jiriaiya died? He didn't know there were other pains/ that the pains could be revived. With just that basic information that kakashi has the luxury of having, he could have paid attention to the possibility of another Pain interrupting his attempted kill blow against the restrained tendo Pain. Its just common sense. If you know your enemy has reinforcements, account for that.He was completetly suprised when the other Pain jumped in front of his chidori which he should have considered to be a pretty dam strong possiblity. And he was fully aware that the Pains were attacking the Village, and even if he wasn't why assume that there would be only one path of pain in a village invasion when you were told that there were at least 6 lol.

Also, because he didn't have universal intel, he should have realized that if a second pain could join the fight, its possible his allies on the other fronts would succumb to pain as well and that more pains would keep flooding in as time goes by. In a suprise attack, he should be assuming the worst case scenario, and at least be attempting to plan for that.