User talk:Simant

Re: Jutsu Infobox
Shrug/ the field exists for a reason right?..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 18:39, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, ya maybe...But well it will inform ppl, which name which we r going by, our structure, etc...And i still think dantman created the field for a reason...And evn in the older format we had it that way..Literal meaning→Kanji→Romanji→eng tv, Viz, etc...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 18:43, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Umm...I'm not that good with references because I save those references for you just you reedit again. Kunoichi101 (talk) 03:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)Kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 03:34, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I was doing that, because 'Six Paths of Pain' and 'Deva Path' are listed as jutsu, not as characters. So if someone goes to deva path, and wants to see HIS jutsu he used in the series under his infobox, they will be able to. same with six paths of pain. that make more sense and sound good? or would u rather me revert?--SkyFlicker (talk) 16:55, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

That was for the same reason as well, so users can better see and sort jutsu that are related to the 6 paths of pain, and not to nagato himself. Im basically 'tree'ing it, so that once the parent/child stuff takes effect, it will be easier for people to navigate. Sound good? Or still want just 'Deva Path'?--SkyFlicker (talk) 17:00, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

As I just wrote on his... once this feature of parent/child comes into effect, the 'users' field isnt going to allow the jutsu to be nested correctly. since all of the paths are individually considered jutsu, and the 6 paths are considered jutsu, they need to be nested as jutsu in the 'parent jutsu' field, with 'nagato' being the 'user'--SkyFlicker (talk) 17:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Does 'media' need to be filled out for all infoboxes? because if you put 'anime episode xx', seems like people would know it was anime?--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:17, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:21, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Am I aggrevatin you yet? lol--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:45, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Just trying to help, lol. Goin through them fairly fast, so may miss some stuff--SkyFlicker (talk) 19:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Nah, im finding a lot, just goin down the list alphabetically--SkyFlicker (talk) 20:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing--SkyFlicker (talk) 20:39, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry -_-'. I will from now on ^_^.--NejiByakugan360 17:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: That thingy about the picture
Oh! I didn't notice that. My bad :3 ~Hakinu (talk 21:46, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Delete Tags
Please understand, that I'm not playing here, I'm not entertaining by putting one deletion tag, not 2001 tags. I suggest, that you don't accuse me that I "like putting delete tags up for no reason", like you wrote. Please, read explanations for this. Thank you for understanding. --Tserg (talk) 21:59, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, looks like I've accidentally copied the delete tag. I've been copying different tags to my TextEdit so I won't search for them again. And my internet have some technical problems; i'm sorry. Anyway 2 deletion tags are not 2002 :) --Tserg (talk) 22:06, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Missing image
I'll let that wait till the character infobox. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 4, 2009 @ 01:37 (UTC)

Yeah. I got that. Kunoichi101 (talk) 02:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)Kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 02:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Flame Rasengan
I was just fixing this edit. I have no special opinion on it. ~SnapperTo 18:07, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reply
Well, sorry about that... Kunoichi101 (talk) 01:45, October 6, 2009 (UTC)Kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 01:45, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Hanzo
Hum... I can know what makes you say that ? It's one of Hanzo primary element as used against the Sannin and also against the Ame Orphan. And this character will not appear again in the manga and the only techniques he showed us this element. And also, Hanzo states in Chapter 447 that his technique is a Katon. Itachou (talk) 21:52, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Image captions
Simant, the infobox already has the ability to do captions. There is actually a reason why the Image param uses a multi-line textbox rather than something simple. The image param accepts multiple images each on it's own line, you can override the default image size by placing a size after a : and you can give the image a caption by putting one after a ;. See it's use on w:c:souleater:Shadow☆Star. So the infobox basically supports multiple images in the same infobox, each with it's own optional custom size and caption. Much more flexible than extra infobox fields. Course most of the time these are not needed, it's better to avoid them if you don't have a reason to use them. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 9, 2009 @ 09:51 (UTC)

Re: Spoiler Warning message
No, I don't know for what screwed up reason MediaWiki is outputting edit mode for wgAction when on special pages. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 11, 2009 @ 02:30 (UTC)

Re: Advanced Elemental Diagram
The link doesn't work. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:35, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * May I ask why you changed the colours of several of the elements? --ShounenSuki (talk 23:26, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Jutsu media
That's a very ugly way to do things. Pretending that a setting is set, when really it isn't, that just leads to a host of troubles. I was planning on doing something similar, but rather than that the plan was to tag the pages for maintenance. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 13, 2009 @ 02:15 (UTC)

Re: Anime Only Arcs
Just a little comment: Maybe you should uniformize the list, so that the single-episode arcs are listed as
 * Episode [Number]? ~Hakinu (talk 05:34, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Plies
The bulleted lines don't stick out much. ~SnapperTo 05:35, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * You could do something with Naruto Uzumaki/Filler Arc. ~SnapperTo 17:26, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Move it to Naruto: Original arcs? Then you'd treat it like all the other arc articles. ~SnapperTo 17:57, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Since the paths are using the jutsu template, that's the only way to get their jutsu to show up in their infobox. ~SnapperTo 05:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Last name
Neither the manga, nor the databooks ever gave Mizuki a surname. However, if I'm not mistaken, one of the filler arcs once appeared to give him a surname which later turned out to be a mistranslation. --ShounenSuki (talk 20:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want to look for it, it is episode 142-147. Jacce | Talk 20:19, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Image Deletion
there are many this kind of poor images here, and i have a plan to add it in the A Fierce Battle of Rolling Thunder! article.--SOUVIK NASKAR (talk) 17:56, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

thank u--SOUVIK NASKAR (talk) 18:02, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Image
Instead of just deleting the image in Kiba's pageand say it's poor quality, you should change it by a better one if you think is bad (Such as AlienGamer did me that favor before)... btw, i don't think is very poor quality image... in fact, i've seen other even worst..., so please, put a new one or don't delete til a better one is there... --Kiba91 (talk) 20:53, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * That is not Simiant's task to do, and it is rather selfish of you to expect others to sweep after your dusty boots (home-made expression). I do not know what image that is in question here, but I am sure Simiant is capable of finding out what images are of poor quality. If you find the same frame of better quality in an anime episode/manga chapter, upload that. (and Simi - I was too lazy to go to his talkpage, and he probably has this page on his watch list anyway. My internet is a moron these days.) ~Hakinu (talk 20:59, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Why r u here? it's a ping pong play game. Just Simant and me, so why do u come here and tell me all that? Just because simant is ur friend? Well... the meaning of "not having anything to do" has found a gr8 representatif!!!  Btw Simant, sorry for the way i said my words before... really sorry. But can i ask u where i can find the raw manga for i can upload the image in better quality??? --Kiba91 (talk) 21:05, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * My, my, so sorry for intruding in your man-to-man battle. *cough*~Hakinu (talk 21:08, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Simant :) I'll search for it!! And hakinu... which battle? we're not fighting, we're discussing, we're talking. But sorry if i was rude to u too, really, i am. --Kiba91 (talk) 21:11, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Advanced templates
*cough* Simant, could you break down what this is all about. I can barely understand bad programming, but I have a strong feeling you are doing something horribly horribly wrong. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:00 (UTC)
 * A self closed  tag can be used as a whitespace barrier. If you place it in between the content and the start or end of a parserfunction parameter it can act as a barrier that will prevent the whitespace in between itself and the content. In essence  will retain the space before "only". Also, it is unnecessary to place a #switch block inside of a #ifeq, what you did could have been handled using the #switch itself. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 17, 2009 @ 20:25 (UTC)
 * We could switch over to a set of from-to fields in the form instead of a list of chapter numbers if you're sure we don't have anything that skips chapters or includes older chapters or whatever. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:26 (UTC)
 * I'm working right now, can't do something like that right now. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 20, 2009 @ 21:32 (UTC)

Ask templates are screwy, you can't pass manual parameters to it, the template only gets the values of properties you ask for using the ? in the later part of the #ask. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 23, 2009 @ 00:28 (UTC)

Images
OK. Soon I will start and look at the list with episodes and will add pictures where doesn't have or are not good.--Donatelo (talk) 13:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * What did you mean by "one is being slow"?
 * There is another problem. When I tried to upload new version of a picture with high resolution - the uploaded picture is with the old resolution or even the quality of the new picture is the same as the old one => that is why I upload new file and not replacing the old file version. Don't know if you understood me. :)
 * And what did you mean by "*Poke* File:Sealed Bomb Square Release.JPG, whitespace"? Could you explain it a little bit simpler. :)
 * I am bothering you a little more than usual - sorry about that.--Donatelo (talk) 22:05, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. I am trying to get a clear picture, but it doesn't work. In the justu is caught and The Giant Bee. If you didn't like it, delete it. File:Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 22:21, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Something like this: File:-Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms-.JPG, File:--Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms--.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 22:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I manage to extract one more frame. File:---Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms---.JPG, File:Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms.JPG.--Donatelo (talk) 23:17, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Volumes
Meh, release number seams strange to me. And for the manga release number would actually normally be Chapter no. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 18, 2009 @ 15:58 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and create the volume number property. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 18, 2009 @ 16:06 (UTC)

Kusanagi Sword
You are right about no real references on the possibility that the Kusanagi Sword can hit in long range...NOT. Look at the fight between Naruto's Four-Tails-Release and Orochimaru, The blade came out of his mouth and knocked Naruto like, WAY back. And even in the article itself, it was mentioned that "The sword can extend its blade to attack from afar and...", well? - KingBlackChicken.

lol
ok i guess u think your is better so i"ll let u have it like that. but i will change it again. not today but somedaythumb this will be the pic

what
oh come on u own that part to....damn can i do anything without you taking it down

sorry
sorry dude i didnt know the policy sorry

Titleicons in infobox
Now that I think about it, I had a reason for moving the icons into the infobox. I wanted to start to get rid of all the titleicons because they're just not a good thing to use. Unreliable css, and it completely screws up when the wiki uses sitenotices (and we try to force that to show), they caused some big overlap problems on a page or two. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 04:49 (UTC)
 * Aye, moving all the icons into the infobox is fine, that's the best context for them. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 17:24 (UTC)
 * Two icons is fine if it's easier to do than trying to eliminate the extra one, it doesn't hurt much. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 24, 2009 @ 17:34 (UTC)

~with~
Is it possible for you to make a "with" feature for the infobox, like (I assume) you did with the Puppet thing? I ask so we can but things were a character used a technique with another character, (Like Naruto and Shion Naruto and Shion's Super Chakra Rasengan, it would be listed as Naruto with Shion and all that jazz).--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:01, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's fine. As long as at some point, it's done and I can stop obsessing over it.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 00:09, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Block
Blocked. Jacce | Talk 12:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Team Oboro
They're the same,

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v07/c062/16.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v40/c369/8.html

But whatever. Cidem1324

Just to point out
Lover is a valid family tree value in this series, as Minato and Kushina weren't married (based off their last names) and yet we have Naruto. Just pointing that out when you are finalizing values.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:59, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Apologies
but (I say because of my sleepy brain, but that might only be an excuse 8D I don't really know right now) I don't know what you're talking about @o@ ~Hakinu (talk 21:20, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh! Well, no, it was the entry in Jacce's talk page with the headline "THANK YOU" :) ~Hakinu (talk 21:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Family Tree
I dunno. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 26, 2009 @ 23:11 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the |sort= property in #ask that can sort by a property in the query. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 01:33 (UTC)
 * ^_^ You might want to actually look at the source code for that extension. It's a old (MW 1.7 old, right after they dropped PHP4 ugh) ugly extension that uses a tag (tags are bad for template coding), and produces lists, NOT simply resorting of a list in a flexible way. See if you can do a proper |sort=. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:02 (UTC)
 * As far as I can comprehend with a beating head, "erm, sure". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 02:10 (UTC)
 * What are you even trying to sort that can't be done with the |sort= parameter? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:05 (UTC)
 * If you have multiple separate queries I have no problem with separate subsections. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 27, 2009 @ 21:19 (UTC)
 * @_@, I dunno, maybe I'll deal with this later when I'm not ill. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 30, 2009 @ 00:01 (UTC)

Problem...
I did apologize somehow....

Maintenance: Name
What does that mean--TheUltimate3 (talk) 22:19, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

oh nu-uh you bunny didn't D:
this picture is so hard to get a capture of that i still remember it! bunny no, it's impsossible, at least from my side, to get a better quality'ed version of it. try it yourself D: ~Hakinu (talk 22:04, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and for the record: I said the 'from my side' thing because alien has the MKV-files of the original episodes. might happen he can get a better one. i'll ask :3 ~Hakinu (talk 22:06, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, In Dual Audio and MKV format, i have till epi 149. This pic is in 151, so the one I have now has a huge Cartoon Network watermark. Mutant 16‏ seems to have a good source though. Maybe he can help...AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:41, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw Simat, the pic that u replaced it with a few mins ago, hardly shows the actual jutsu. In terms of giving a better discription, and reference, the former was better...AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * But that shows the jutsu better, dont you think? It gives anyone reading it, a better idea about the jutsu, than the one being used now..AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 22:58, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * K..AlienGamer (userpage &#8285; talk) 23:00, October 30, 2009 (UTC)