Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34661853-20181224172126/@comment-36019309-20190120223744

JamesSenpai wrote:

You really don't get common sense? If you could prep a seal to activate after you die, but have no idea how you would die, what idiot would program it to activate asap after the moment your heart stops beating? For all you know, you could die in a volcano. Since there's no time frame when Madara set this seal, he could of done it years prior to even thinking of fighting Hashirama. And Hashirama has a great variety of Wood Techniques, lmao. Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees is a pretty wide scale continuous attack. Also, you have to prove Madara would insta-blitz a guy who can sense his chakra and his attacks, I don't need to prove that when Danzo failed to blitz Sasuke with it from behind, while he was caught off guard. Hashirama will be able to sense Madara as soon as he appeared. There won't be catching him off guard in the way you suggested. It's unlikely that Madara prepared Transcription Seal: Izanagi years before he met Hashirama, because Izanagi requires Senju DNA. When has Hashirama sensed chakra, without Sage Mode? Even if he had it still doesn't matter to an insta-blitz, which Tobi did to Konan. Danzo would have stabbed Sasuke, when he got behind him with Izanagi, but Sasuke had Susanoo up, so he couldn't. Bruh. You literally just said Madara only wanted to get his DNA in the paragraph above?????? YOU: "That fight was first and foremost about getting Hashi's power, not about killing Hashi at all cost." ????????? As for what chapters, I got a few actually. In chapter 621, Madara said he was going all out. In chapter 626, Madara said that Hashirama wasn't going to reach the other side, a reference to 621-622 back when they were kids skipping stones across the lake as a competition, and the one who reached the other side, won. If he told Hashirama he wasn't going to reach the other side, that means he told Hashirama he wasn't going to win. But the clear evidence is in 576 when Madara said he fought a REAL life and death battle against Hashirama just after calling him the Ultimate Shinobi. A REAL life and DEATH battle. Not a fake one which you are implying by saying Madara wasn't trying to win. There's only one fight they've had which resulted in death. VOTE. That's just a few instances I remembered, there's probably even more evidence. So Madara basically has said, Hashirama wasn't going to win, that he was going all out, and that this battle was a battle to the death. So... "That fight was first and foremost about getting Hashirama's power, not about killing Hashirama at all cost." means that Madara wasn't trying kill Hashi, regardless of the price paid or effort needed, but that getting Hashi's DNA was his primary focus, killing Hashirama could have been a secondary goal.

Life and Death can mean: involving the possibility that someone will die.

And Madara's old battles involved the possibility of death. Madara has access to Chibaku as an edo, due to the fact Nagato had access to Chibaku as an edo. Didn't help him against Hashirama. So irrelevant. As for Limbo, Hashirama might not be able to sense it, but it is said on it's page that Sage mode can sense attacks even without the need to see them. So it can be debated if Hashirama can sense their attacks or not. It didn't help him against Hashirama, because he didn't use it, he didn't need to. Edo Madara was never hard pressed against Hashi, if I'm remembering right. It also said on 6 Paths Sage Mode page:

With the power he received from Hagoromo, Naruto has the innate ability to grasp the nature of chakra and comprehend all universal things: his sensing ability rises,[1] to the point where he can sense and thus react to the invisible shadows in the world of Limbo.