Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180927150340/@comment-37024139-20180927160206

Naruto without Kurama or Six Paths... Hmm. Well, obviously he would be a LOT weaker. But if he didn't spend time training with Kurama at all, then he could've found another way to get stronger--don't you think?

Sage Mode is alright, while not being Kurama strong, but I guess if he decided to combine it with all the jutsu that adult Naruto had, and whatever extra training he could grab there--at least Jonin level.

Now, to say that he could defeat someone like Minato at this strength would be too much of a stretch. But I can see him defeating people like old Hiruzen. The others.. nah.

EDIT: Actually, he could definitely beat Chojuro, Darui, and Kurotsuchi if I'm not underestimating them too much. I'd say Gaara is at a fine strength, not like he gets to show it like he did in Shippuden though. It would be POSSIBLE--I mean, Naruto using Sage Mode alone ALMOST managed to beat pain, but then all the Kurama stuff happened. In the end, he did find Nagato through his Sage Mode powers though, and didn't "rely" on Kurama. I'll just say he won that.

And well, Gaara hasn't improved since he got beaten by Deidara. I don't think, at least. Since Pain is obviously stronger than Deidara, and Naruto defeated Pain.. I'll say that a buffed Sage Mode Naruto could easily beat ALL of the Boruto Kage.

But the old Kage, no. Since it's not warring times anymore, and every major village is in an alliance, the Kage have gotten terribly weaker.

MAYBE he could defeat Kakashi. I want to hear what others think about that.