Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-8284722-20141120180019/@comment-17623-20141120185509

Gemnist wrote: Massive post #1

Sounds good to get people a bit in there with the explainaions. That is about where it ends with the "good". Part I was in no way consistent in terms of tone, and went all over the place. You can't show, in something considered good detail what happened int he Land of Waves and then try to stick the Chunin Exams and Sasuke's defection in one film. That throws the tone all over the place. Makes matters worse you can't have most of the fights in the Chunin Exams because, being a movie which devoted most of its time in the beginning the Land of Waves (logically) there is practically no time to get invested in the characters and these fights. For example the reason why we cared about the Hinata/Neji fight was because we've seen Hinata make goo-goo eyes at Naruto on and off over the course of Part I. Unless you manage to find time to stick Hinata in all through the first half of the movie, nobodies really gonna care that her cousin beat the snot out of her.

Basically this first movie would fall into the same hell the Last Airbender fell into, trying to cram a massive amount of story in a very short amount of time. But where Last Airbender gutted everything, you've decided to keep it in in a way that I am unable to see how it would make sense in finished form.

Now on to your thoughts of characters. First things first, drop the idea of the catch phrase. Nobody will like it. At all. Second. Not sure you can really do changes to Naruto and the gang like that. Naruto in series is heroic and idealistic at heart. Thats the reason why he didn't become a Gaara. But he's also rude, anti-authority (for his reasons mind you) a bit of an ass, and a pervert. And that is his character. Changing him to be purely heroic (ironic considering how he ended up huh) I would consider a disservice.

Sasuke was always quiet and blunt, but the point was in Part I, despite being an ass to his team, he does legitimately care about them and after much prodding it showed. For a film, I guess it could work to make him more unlikable, but then you leave the question; "If he is that much of an ass all the time why do the characters like him?"

Sakura, being seen in a more heroic light would be great. Having her be nicer to Naruto is also great. Keeping the Sasuke fever is also great.

Kakashi, not sure where ya goin with this one. Kakashi being very calm and collected for what his life was like was kinda his thing. A true shinobi not being super visibly swayed by the turmoils of his life. Him bringing up Team Minato and getting weepy seems very...un-Kakashi like.

Hiruzen and Konohamaru: Toughy. Only because logically Naruto fending for himself since childhood is unlikely. However, having the Hokage as his father figure kinda kills the whole "I'm a nobody and soon I'll be Hokage" thing if he basically already had the in.

Everyone else from Konoha: Almost completely unimportant. But I do want to point out. Tenten. Be careful what you consider with her. She's a weapon specialist who challanged the great Neji when he implied girls weren't as good as taijutsu than boys. Tread carefully on that. Turn her into a femnazi, and everybody will hate her. Turn her into a CGI version of Sakura (feminine, maternal, can murder you) and everyone will hate her still.

Sannin: Could work. Could fail in epic fashion. Having them as failures brings the question of "why they are relevant?". Why is Orochimaru a thing? Why is Tsunade Hokage? They are already torn apart in series. Making them more so just to make them more so seems excessive.

Itachi: Oh boy. Itachi. Flat out, bad. I must advise not putting him in a positive light. At least not early. All we see of him is the fact that he murdered his clan. Unless you plan to change that, showing that he cares for more than 1) Sasuke and 2) Village would just be really a waste of a plot. Sasuke wants Itachi dead, but if we see Itachi appear and he's helping kids across the street, Sasuke just looks like more of an ass. He doesnt need help looking like an ass. I'd suggest peppering his appearances with very subtle hints at his true allegiance but nothing overt. You don't need to make a villain good for characters to like then, you just gotta make them interesting.

That's it for now.