Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-25122992-20160711092940

C`mon, Shinsusenju isn't that ultimate weapon as you depicted, 8Gates, especially against Naruto/Sasuke duo. Fisttly, it's grounded, thus becoming useless against opponents able to fly, which Naruto and Sasuke exactly are (with Six Paths Senjutsu and PS recpectivelly). Secondly, it's hardly mobile, thus almost stationary, which leaves it an easy target for the opponents out of its range. Naruto/Sasuke don't even need to use their strongest attacks (Six Paths Rasenshuriken/Indra's Arrow) to destroy it, it's just enough to spam some lesser, but still devastating techniques (as TBB) to obliterate Shinsusenju from above, and Tobirama/Minato wouldn't be able to do a lot cause they can't teleport multiple objects coming at them (as shown in the fight against Juubito, where they said they could warp away only 2 of 4 firing TBBs together). There's also an alternative of Sasuke flying down with PS and slicing Shinsusenju in half, where Hiraishin isn't going to do a damn thing at all. So, while being incredibly effective in the direct combat, Shinsusenju becomes pretty useless if opponent doesn't stay on the ground.

Great God Gates also aren't so dangerous, since Naruto/Sasuke can easily free each other if the one of them is struck. Moreover, we should remember that, while being able to restrain Juubi, the Gates were casually shattered by Juubito (non-controlled state) and reincarnated Madara (after Rinne Tensei), that's why their hardness is still under the question.