Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24347194-20150211225344/@comment-142748-20150406185111

GreatestSin wrote: SuperSaiyaMan wrote: To me, Minato has always had better feats and hype over Itachi. Itachi puts himself squarely on Jiraiya's level, while Minato is a lot stronger than his master after all without even Sage Mode. If you take Edo Minato into the equation, with KCM and BM...Itachi is really left behind in the dust. isnt this unfair?

we have itachi on his own and than compare him to minato who gets help by kurama, this is a 1 vs 2 :(

and, i dont understand why people keep saying that minato is to fast for genjutsu, since when does genjutsu have speed? + without kurama i highly doubt that minato would have an chance to free himself from one of itachis genjutsus (i mean, itachi belongs to the chars with the most genjutsu-skills in the entire story, despite being kage-lvl i doubt that minato can do much against someone who is top-tier in hi field of expertise) ^_^

despite all of minatos hype, the only notable things are his teleport-jutsu and some rasengan-versions (two or three), non of the jutsus he showed had enough destructive power to destroy itachis susanoo, and once minato is captured in a genjutsu (which can happen without eye-contact) i think it is a sure win for itachi...

on the other hand minatos speed is the only factor which outclasses itachis(note: not his bodyspeed but the overall speed via his teleport-jutsu), in ninjutsu they are pretty equal, minato has a few jutsus at high-lvl and itachi has many lower-lvl jutsus...

therefore: 55-45 for itachi vs minato... 1. Can't blame us for Kishimoto widening the gap between Itachi and Minato to the point of absurdity, which was already so high Itachi already tacitly admitted inferiority by putting himself just at Jiraiya's level. And not only that, its not two versus one, if Minato master's Kurama's power, its HIS power alone. That's how it works.

2. Since you can't exactly catch a person in a genjutsu who reacts faster than you do. By the time Itachi casts, Minato would have already moved or severed a Itachi's artery and leaving him to bleed out. It was alluded that speed was one of the Sharingan Genjutsu's weaknesses as far beck as A vs Sasuke, the latter's Sharingan genjutsus useless against A due to the speed difference.

3. Minato can strip Itachi of his Susanoo by teleporting it away (like he teleported Kurama away and Gamabunta was in the same place, or teleported the Gudodama away). He doesn't need to destroy Susano'o to bypass it either, a single mark means he can teleport INTO it and Itachi doesn't have the reflexes to counter said tagging. Itachi can't even land a genjutsu in the first place, so all you're making him do is exhaust himself.

4. Not just speed, but strength, fuinjutsu, jutsu variety and intelligence. Minato was a genius in the manga who was unsurpassed. And Itachi's Ukataka, which a fresh post-Timeskip Naruto nearly broke, despite not even being Kage level is useless against one of the strongest Hokage's ever? Sorry, not happening.

You're overestimating Itachi greatly to think that.

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: The difference is Itachi was never known for his skill in body flicker nor was he known for his physical prowess in taijutsu and his speed. So in comparison to Minato, he couldn't keep up with him in regular physical combat. As for the rest, that may be true but we still don't know how strong he would have been if he wasn't sick. This is about how strong both of them were before they died, so that includes Itachi's sickness as well. In the end, since Itachi is sick, I believe Minato would win. Even without sickness, Itachi's physical parameters would stay the same. 'Healthy Itachi' is Part I Itachi. Only three MS usages before exhaustion.