User talk:Cerez365

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Re: Poison refs
Done. -- The Goblin  14:52, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Minato's infobox
--AlexKatsakis (talk) 14:53, September 15, 2012 (UTC)How do you protect articles

--AlexKatsakis (talk) 14:59, September 15, 2012 (UTC)And how did you protected some pages from editing?

Tobi and Obito mentions
Despite the fact that leaving as Tobi still makes the techniques appear in Obito's infobox, it was brought up in his talk page that, for pages which don't directly chronicle the series, that is, sections other than background and different arc sections and pages, there isn't much of a point to keep them as Tobi and to zig zag between them. Check the topic. Ability sections and jutsu articles don't have to keep Tobi. Someone pointed out in a few edit summaries that we already have a similar situation working like that with Kazuma/Furido. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:36, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Bot Changes
Are there many instances where it has been changed?-- 16:07, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

If just one or 2 pages...then its OK I guess. Everything is done. I have added it as an exception now (incase we have to run it again some other day). 16:25, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanx. If there are any other such words, let me know. I will add them to the exceptions list. Already added:


 * trigram
 * tetragram
 * hexagram
 * cemeteries-- 07:19, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Show/Hide
Is it working for you? 13:24, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you cleared your cache before checking it? 13:28, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Obito's Ancestor
Yeah I get your point. We just have to wait and see, cause in asian culture (Japanese, Chinese, etc) the concept of family (and therefore the concept of ancestors) is different, broader, more inclusive.--Holyn (talk) 01:35, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Summary
"if it's only for the reason that the image extension is .jpg I don't think you need to be replacing them":thumbsup.jpg: :) Getting kinda sick of having the uploader spammed with needless uploading imo >_> --Speysider Talk Page 11:57, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

White Eyes During Reincarnation
About the white eyes thing; their eyes appear blank while they are in their decayed state prior to regenerating. It can be seen when Orochimaru revived the First and Second in Part 1, as well as when Kabuto summoned Deidara in chapter 512.--BeyondRed (talk) 19:10, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Obito's Wood Release
I think we should put obito can use wood release because chapter 603 shows him useing it.--(Titans24 (talk) 16:14, September 26, 2012 (UTC))Titans24

I see what you are saying but to me it looks like wood jutsu.--(Titans24 (talk) 16:22, September 26, 2012 (UTC))Titans24

Swirl zetsu trivia
sorry about that. I just think it'S interesting to note that piece of info, because it'S clear that obito based his tobi persona on swirl zetsu, both the appearance and the personality. also, swril zetsu and white zetsu personalities are very different. although white zetsu has his sense of humour he is not nearly as goofy (for lack of a better term) as swirl zetsu. --Holyn (talk) 13:40, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Question
Sorry to bother You with this but, do you know of the validity for the mcafee siteadvisor and safeweb.norton? Cause I was trying to see if mangafox still had viruses on it. Again sorry to bother You.98.26.240.62 (talk) 12:45, September 29, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Converting images
I just found an awesome pic for the Dragon Blade that is excellent quality. The problem I'm having is that it is a bmp type of pic & it won't allow me to post it. Any idea on how to convert it to a different kind that's allowed or something?

Refs
How exactly are you counting the pages in chapters for correcting references? For example, in the chapter 604 reference regarding Raido's appearance, you changed it from page 2 to pages 3-4. Using mangastream's as a "template", the first page of the chapter would be the colour page of Obito encased by Spiral Zetsu, and the double spread would be pages 2 and 3. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:19, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Omega Rasengan
Heya Cerez. Just decided to drop you this line. Might want to have a talk with the guy/girl, not sure. Still, he seems to think you're out to get him or something like that.

Senju Inheritance
well as you can clearly see that Hashirama Senju has the water element and also the earth which he forms together to make wood style. Tobirama Senju uses only waterstyles. The clan clearly inherits water due to the resemblence between both Senju brothers. Also since said by Obito disguised as Tobi stated that is was destind for Uchiha and Senju to fight so would't Senju have water to put out the fire. There is your answer i cleary am only stating true facts that i have observed throughout the Naruto Shippuden series if you need anymore proof message me when you receive this please let me put on that all fullblooded Senju have water elemental.

Shonen Jump Manga
Hey i got a question do you think you can take a picture of the Shonen Jump Naruto Manga, so I can see how thin it is or at least get the concept of it.

I thought you did because is see the Japanese symbols on the manga, but are they really 17 or 18 pages long?

I thought you did because is see the Japanese symbols on the manga, but are they really 17 or 18 pages long? --Manoloisgreat (talk) 20:46, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

I know i'm asking 20 questions I hope this does not bother you but how do you get the Japanese manga? Do you got a website or something? --Manoloisgreat (talk) 00:44, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

I found it thanks alot--Manoloisgreat (talk) 00:57, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Madara's Mangekyou Sharingan Ability
In regards to it's power, I'm not sure if this is in the anime (forgot) or if it's just extra content on Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations. He seems to be able to "turn back time" by spinning his Mangekyou clockwise and then continueing time by spinning it anit-clockwise. I'll provide a link of the battle where he uses this ability against Hashirama Senjuu (Senjuu Hashirama) when a big shuriken hits Madara's Gunbai and he spins his eyes and the video becomes slightly blurred and the shuriken comes back as if he reverses time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFzGNNummXg Watch from 3:05.--KesshouRyuu (talk) 16:49, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Naruhina?
Thing is to me, it seems like Naruto's life is a 16-year old hurriance of chaos, misery and despair. He has been nearly killed almost everyday since the moment he was born, way before becoming a ninja, which is already a life being shadowed constantly by death, which i think only amplified the curse of chaos that haunts him to possibly unbelievable levels. I thinks what makes him so cool, that despite the fact that his life is perpetual nightmare he still mangae to stand his ground. I believe the true key to his success in life is his unstoppable will to love. I mean he was born of a powerful bond of love between two great villages: Konoha and Uzshio, who have a particularly strong bond that surpass their own borders, which is his source of power: his unstoppable and unbounded will to love that surpasses all odds and create bonds of love that surpasses all odds. I believe it also why he was so weak at the beginninig, because he didn't have enough love to power himself and once he found some he exploded to amazing levels of power. I feel that it is also the very affinity of his lifeforce, what helps him stay alive, almost literaly from the looks of it. It looked like the reason he was barely able to get by and stay alive literally with almost the entire village hating him was because of his parents' strong love for him, which he was not even aware of, which only weaken it until it regain it full power with his meeting with them, so its practical his very being, his life-support. His will to love is like the sun, which is why I feel that why he is able to get thorough to anyone, because he helps give their dark world-views a sunrise, which is why i would be surprised if he was some sort of ninja of the sun. I also feel that this is why he needs to find a girl who would never under any circumstance or bullshit reason take his ability to love as a joke and instead see it as a seroius reason to be in love with him. Thing is I am a naruhina fan, i mean sakura is okay as a friend but I don't see her as someone who is willing to take his life affinity seriously enough to be with him as a lover. Hinata on the other hand, it looks to me that she is serious about being with him, cause it looks to me that her life also depends on his will to love, which is why I feel that it is their destiny to be together, because in her own special way help support his power, like before his match with Neji, during his fight with Pain, even vouching for him when others was supsicion of him during the war, I really don't think that those are coincedence either. She couldn't even forget him during his three year training period. In fact i feel that she was the whole reason he was able to meet his parents, i repeat i do not think that was just a coincidence. Anyway what do you think of any of this? The shipping part isn't my main concern. Justin Holland (talk) 00:57, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

i said the shipping part wasn't my main concern? Justin Holland (talk) 12:55, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

PITZWIL100 (talk) 02:16, October 10, 2012 (UTC)If you don't mind, even though I'm not Cerez, I'd still like to reply to this. Now, although I understand your reasoning, I still disagree with you. I'm still willing to respect your opinion though, as long as you respect mine. Even since the beginning of the series, (I've watched the anime since day one), and to this day, I'm a Narusaku fan. I just think they work better together, because they've been together since the beginning. Also, it makes quite an evolution in their relationship. From enemies, (kind of, Naruto didn't hate her at first, but Sakura hated him), to close friends, to lovers. It works perfectly, if you look at it from that perspective. I suppose that you could also look at it from a technical point of view, in saying that, "What kind of a couple, (referring to Naruhina, of course), gets along that well, all the time," if you want to. I've used that argument before.

Of course, I'm not saying that Naruhina is a terrible couple. Not by any means. I still like the couple, I just PREFER Narusaku. However, I suppose that, as long as Sasuke dies, I'll be satisfied, because I HATE Sasuke so much right now.....but that's a discussion for another time.

Again, I respect your opinion, but disagree with it.

A request
Sempai a request...i'm looking to get a pic of chapter 604 in page 8 which displays Madara's various weapons in the lair of evil (xD) to add to his abilities section in the proper place as i don't know how to. Thank you in advanced. Darksusanoo (talk) 21:55, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

283 images
If you have no objections, I will upscale your images from the 283 episode into HD just so that they look better in the higher resolution. If you don't want this, let me know. --Speysider Talk Page 15:40, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ryuzetsu's Trivia Box
A few days ago, I tried to publish some info for Ryuzetsu's Trivia box. She was a character from Naruto Shippuden The Movie 5: Blood Prison. I was informed later on that you deleted it. The info was as follows.

1.Ryuzetsu's Jutsu, "Fire Release: Flame Lantern," bears an uncanny resemblance to Itachi Uchiha's completed Susano'o.  The only visual difference is that her jutsu is much smaller.

2.Ryuzetsu's eyes looks exactly like the Uchiha Clan's Rinnegan.

3.Ryuzetsu's face looks almost exactly like Nagato's did, back when he, Yahiko, and Konan originally formed the Akatsuki. The only difference is that his hair is red, and isn't as long in the back.

Now, I think that those are just some pretty neat things that I noticed while watching the movie, and decided to share them with readers of Nrutopedia, and was wondering why you deleted them.PITZWIL100 (talk) 08:03, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, the Rinnegan DOES belong to the Uchiha Clan. How do you think Madara had it in the first place, exactly? It's one a more advanced version of the Mangekyo Sharingan, passed down by the Sage Of Six Paths.

Sigh* When the Sage Of Six Paths died, he passed down his EYES to the Uchiha, which included the Mangekeyo Sharingan and the Rinnegan. The Sage had both Jutsus, and he passed both down to the Uchiha. His eyes to the Uchiha and his body to the Senju. Just read the bottom paragraph on the Rinnegan's page. It says that Kabuto and Orochimaru confirmed that the Rinnegan is an expansion from the Mangekeyo Sharingan. PITZWIL100 (talk) 02:20, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

So what does the Sage pass down to the elder son, who would be known as the Uchiha?PITZWIL100 (talk) 11:31, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

--PITZWIL100 (talk) 11:42, October 22, 2012 (UTC)In that article, is specifically stated that the Sage passed down his "eyes" to the elder brother, which I believe would be the Rinnegan.

--PITZWIL100 (talk) 11:55, October 22, 2012 (UTC)Then tell me, what the hell IS that dojutsu?

Senju and Sarutobi
Hello Cerez. This is drew8324 and i want to talk to you about something. Time and time again ( maybe about 3 times) you have change my edits on the Senju and Sarutobi clan. All i do is state that all Senju have the water release and Sarutobi fire. I have even gave you factual and evidence in my descriptions why they both contain these elements. But i will go deeper into my explanations. Senju: said by Tobi aka Obito that they were from the blood line of the younger son of the Sage of Six Paths and was his succesor. According to Tobi aka Obito that both the younger sons ancestors Senju and the older sons ancestors Uchiha were like oil and water. When the strongest of both clans fought Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha fought the victor was Hashirama. To me this sent a sublimital message that the younger Sage's son cause, peace and love (Hashirama) beat the older son's cause for peace, strength (Madara). Since the Senju were most likely destined to be the victor due to their ancestors why wouldn't their elements be the same. So what beats Uchiha, Senju, fire, water, power, love. Dosen't this mean something. Hashirama Senju's kekkei genkai's wood, which is a combonation between earth and water. And Tobirama uses only as far as we know water.So that shows that water is in those Senju members. Sometimes some say that Tobirama could have just trained to achieve that element I disagree. Why would he train in another nature other than his natural affinity. Which I believe is easier to train. There is only one person I know of in the series who uses there inherited element more than there natural element ... Itachi. He uses the fire like all Uchiha but I doubt that is his natural element due to his calm non-hot-headed demeanor. So that is all I have to say and I hope you discuss this with your supervisors like Omnibender.

Drew8324 Next Message will be about Sarutobi's element.

Thank you for your message. Being very stern in it helped. And I like to say that not 2 but three Sarutobi have used it Konohamaru, Asuma, Hiruzen. You should have known that and by the way I have one last thing to say what attitude is lighting affiliated with. What do you think. Thanks once again for the stern message. And I'm only 13 take it easy man.

Drew8324 (talk) 05:30, October 16, 2012 (UTC)Drew8324

12viz
Oops. Sorry. Guess I pressed one and two by mistake without noticing. Sorry 'bout that... --X29 16:33, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

A question
Hi Cerez and how are you? Hope to be fine ... My question is what's the differences between Viz manga and English TV for naming the techniques and monikers of the characters? For example, Crunchyroll's subtitles, are they classified as Viz manga or English TV? Thanks so much ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 16:52, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Rinnegan > Sharingan/Sharingan > Rinnegan
What's with this evolution/devolution mess? 0_o The Ten-Tails's eye obviously came first, it appears to be "the original form" and Rinnegan/Sharingan in my opinion are just separations from each other, Senju just inherited some genes necessary for the change, while Uchiha didn't, but they got genes for an eye technique - Sharingan.

I think it's obvious that at least 2 of 3 eye techniques have origin in the Ten-Tails and that Sage had none before, and that it's possible he could switch even to Sharingan at will like Madara can--Elveonora (talk) 16:20, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Canonically, we weren't told yet. Theoretically, everything.
 * Yeah.
 * Yeah.
 * Yeah.
 * The way you put it, makes sense... Sage(Rinnegan)>Elder Son(?)>Uchiha(Sharingan) so getting back to Rinnegan is from a point of view a devolution.
 * Cool, so I have to agree that it should be kept as "d" for now--Elveonora (talk) 17:09, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Translator
Hello sempai...i have a question...as Suki-sempai said a while ago that he was taking a leave from his translations of the series, i was wondering who's the new translator, cuz' i have some questions about translations. Thank you in advance Darksusanoo (talk) 18:13, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ittans' Death
I'd like to infrom that i'm sure Ittan died in the latest episode by Jinin Akebino--Jmootam1999 (talk) 16:05, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Another request
Hello sempai...i have another request...since they decided to split the article section of Madara's taijutsu and kenjutsu, i wanted to request a pic of Madara doing some taijutsu action...there's one in chapter 560 where Madara kicks a shinobi into another group like a bowling bowl into a group of pins xD. And i also wanted one for Sasuke to show his speed in his taijutsu section...i was thinking about the one where he dodges Killer B's Lariat, since it was noted to be extremely fast and B is a very fast shinobi...i tried posting one before but i only found the manga version and for some reason it got taken down.

Lastly i wanted to apologize for any problem regarding the editing of Madara...usually i'm right in my assumptions and analysis but you're right in having to wait for full confirmation of stuff. So that's all, thank you in advance. Darksusanoo (talk) 01:11, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Removing pictures?
Hello Cerez I can see you are removing my resently added pictures (to some of the members from the Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist), which i don't completly get, becourse i belive that in the new ones, it is easier to see the persons. And they still look as they did they first time we saw them. --Kasan94 (talk) 14:09, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Tsukuyomi
On here it's said that Sasuke has the MS technique Tsukuyomi yet I've never read a chapter where Sasuke calls it that. To my knowledge Sasuke's MS genjustu eye technique hasn't shown any similarities in abilities to Itachi's. Does it actually say it's Tsukuyomi somewhere in the manga? 173.218.220.150 (talk) 12:07, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ensui and Infobox
Ohh...What a classy excuse you've got there... It's not only about the mist...It's to some degree about centralisation..It's good to have a pic that is solely centered on him instead of having a very slightly off-centered cropped image...Moreover, there isn't any mist in that pic...So, it's kinda killin' two birds with one stone....As far for Kuriarare's case....I removed that image because the image wasn't a close shot on his face...I preferred to give more priority to a close-up than a mist-less shot.. akz!  14:29, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Rin
Was it ever revealed what Clan Rin is from? I was wondering because I always figured it was the Inuzuka Clan because of those markings on her face.

Learning about his father? Justin Holland (talk) 18:14, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hyuga page
Hey again Cerez. For some time ago i startet making a page for unknown hyugas, and it done now, at least about the hyugas i know of. What i would like to ask of you, if you got the time of course, is to se if they do something in the manga, different from the anime? becourse I don't read manga. --Kasan94 (talk) 19:00, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Great thanks man --Kasan94 (talk) 19:13, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey again. If you at some point finds the time and the urge to work a bit, I would like to ask of you to find information and a picture on the unknown Hyuga, from the nine-tails attack, since he dosn't appear in the anime. And then ether tell me what he does and etc. or add it to my page yourself. --Kasan94 (talk) 17:57, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

English variant
From the bossman himself: []. Just remembered this may be relevant.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:32, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Me neither. When I first saw it it was 4 in the morning, then I just completely forgot about it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 12:08, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

New layout?
What did you mean with your layout edit summary in Gaara's page today? I still see the images being pushed under the infobox. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:06, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:What the heck ?
It's very rare for you to agree with my line of thinking in any discussion here lol --Speysider Talk Page 11:30, November 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Indeed. I decided to expand on what I originally said after your message and it's now a big sermon xD --Speysider Talk Page 13:16, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Broken Lists
Yo Cerez, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but all(as far as I've found) of the 'List of' parts of the wikia are funked up. I'm putting up these alternate links so that while the originals are being repaired, the browsers have fast access to the lists of that subject they want. You can't deny that this is a good reason to have the alternate list-links up.

Your fellow wikia editor, --YoukoTaichou (talk) 00:49, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Anko case
Can you please support this lady? She is Kishi's fav female char, yet everyone ignores her, even Kishi himself uses her ONLY as a plot-device, thus I guess she WAS his fav female char, but no longer... now it's Rin, that's why we have to read this romance story about her death lol I'm talking about my topic on her talkpage, thanks.--Elveonora (talk) 15:34, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

This isn't my wiki, but if it was, anime-only stuff would be separate. This isn't the only instance of anime contradicting with manga, for example the whole filler arc about Naruto being aware of the war. Also Yamato and others were aware of Zetsu's perfect copy clones in the filler, while later during a "canonical" episode they just found out. The way her article is worded is actually okay, nothing too speculative. But should the picture of her receiving a curse mark be used since it's anime-only? Same goes for quotes--Elveonora (talk) 16:53, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Bukijutsu deletion
Did you discuss about the deletion of this article with anyone before making the decision.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 20:30, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok then, sorry for the misunderstanding.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 21:06, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Continuing Tsunade's pic
Does this work? --X29 18:58, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Holy cow! Didn't see that coming. --X29 18:59, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

I have three more, if you'd like.

#1.

#2.

And #3.

--X29 19:23, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's more like Anko's. --X29 01:54, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

And up till now, you haven't used any of my images..... --X29 00:32, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

If I knew how, I would've done it already. --X29 05:33, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Characters infoboxes editing
Hi Cerez and how are you? I liked your selection for the word "Adolescent" instead of "Child" in Guy's infobox. I think it's better to do the same thing for all the characters that appeared in their youth like Kakashi, Team Tobirama's members, Kosuke and Asuma to replace the word "Young Adult". Do you agree with that? — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:10, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 09:01, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Recent Edits
We can pass Ibiki now, and where am I supposed to go in Kakashi's talk page? --X29 17:08, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

We'll discuss it there. --X29 17:22, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto's New Strategy
Shouldn't it be stated that Naruto came up with a new strategy to use Sage Mode in battle? I mean he did demonstrate it in chapter 560 where he would created two clones to distract Madara while he was the one to gather natural energy to enter Sage Mode. I would do it my self but I still don't have permission to edit Naruto's article.--Itachi7000 (talk) 17:25, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

I read the change but what I meant was for the information up here to be stated in the sage Mode section on Naruto's article. He used chapter 560 pages 6 through 12.--Itachi7000 (talk) 18:09, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

But the references for the information our from chapters 571 and 572, I'm talking about when he used the strategy in chapter 560. At least post this information in some way please.--Itachi7000 (talk) 19:01, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Maki's cloth techniques
Hello, i noticed in shippuden episode 284 (the one about Pakura), when Pakura scorched the forest they were fighting in, Maki surrounded herself, Ruka, and the com. squad member from the blast. Although Ruka used water release to wet the cloth, the fact that Maki surrounded herself with cloth in a semi-dome/sphere type thing i think is worthy of an article (something along the lines of protective cloth dome, or something of the like) or at least a mention of it in her article. What do you think?98.26.246.74 (talk) 23:17, November 11, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Okay. I'll post something on Maki's talk page,, but in the meantime i'll add something like "And Maki has also shown that she can use the cloth for defensive means by wrapping it around her and her alies", to her abilities section. And if it gets a page, i'll find a way to stretch that out a little more so that it won't be just a sentence or two.98.26.246.74 (talk) 15:40, November 12, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

Edits on Shizuka and Hotaru
Thank you. That'll help my cause. At least let such things be mentioned enough times. That's why Tsunade's......... bust can be allowed. --X29 13:57, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Good point. Still, both shouldn't be mentioned unless it's been mentioned several times in the series. Tsunade's...... bust was, so it stays. --X29 15:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

......... What's that supposed to mean? --X29 16:07, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

I do my best to make both sides happy, yet there are times where it can't be done from my perspective. --X29 16:38, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Raws
Hey, I saw that you've put up the original manga pictures. What site do you pick these up from? — Alchez (talk) 14:29, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I really want to know where did you get the chapter #612 images. Leodix   (議論 13:02, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re: rationales
If you are going to go and change them, might I suggest you do it slowly ? If you are going to change all these rationales you will most certainly flood my mailbox and I'm not going to change my mail settings just for this. Also, the only thing that needs changed is the replaceability, not the resolution. Also, you must place or  on any images that conform to the resolutions mentioned on the templates. --Speysider Talk Page 16:36, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

"I don't intend to change my editing patterns to suit your inbox though. If you don't want to change your mail settings, that simply means that you want the notifications, so why complain? Also, from what I've read, I am not bound to add that template, what I am bound to do is remove the parts of the rationale you've changed that could get us in trouble. Now if you want to do them on your own then tell me so, otherwise, adding the templates will be nice busy-work for you oui."
 * I don't want to see my mailbox have 150 notifications of you changing crap. Also, if your going to be rude, I'm just going to tell you that I'll do the changes so that I get NO notifications at all. This whole issue over some text is highly unlikely to get the wiki shut down, it's just people with an ego problem. >_> --Speysider Talk Page 16:47, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re: iwa shinobi, chukichi and benihisago images
Please explain what is wrong with a wider image. It doesn't affect the infobox in a way that makes the wiki broken and in fact makes the infobox shorter and therefore takes up less room than your longer and stretched down images. The Benihisago image is actually better in a wider thumbnail, not cropped. Also, I checked the filesizes of your cropped image against my wide image for Chukichi. My wider file is actually much more economical than your file (my file is 950KB while your one is 1.18MB) so the page will actually load quicker with my bigger thumbnail than your one. Food for thought there. --Speysider Talk Page 18:48, November 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Can't find it in my archives. Also, your another one who falls for the trap of "unlimited". It does not exist. There are limits which you won't actually reach but you cannot possibly ever say Wikia has unlimited space because there is no such thing. --Speysider Talk Page 18:54, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Cropped images
Personally, I liked your method for cropping the images and preserving the resolutions, it's right that your images are much bigger in space. But it's fine for me. By the way, could you upload new images for these two episodes, 281 and 286? — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 11:48, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I mean the characters that appeared in these episodes. I have to clarify that for you before, sorry. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 11:58, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 12:06, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's better for you to do this because my network connection is bad today for video streaming and stuff. Also, these images are uploaded with 480p and they're not allowed according to Speysider's new templates. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 12:24, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Some suggestions for the Italian Wikia
Hello, Cerez365. I'm trying to get the Italian wikia of Naruto a bit closer to the English version's level, but I cannot do it without the infoboxes. Would you please show me how to make infoboxes like these which can be found on the English Naruto Wikia? Thank you for the attention.--JOA20 (talk) 07:08, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I'll do my best! --JOA20 (talk) 12:38, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Scissor Pincers
You sir, can shove your head somewhere so dark you can't see out of it anymore. I have had it with your arrogant, stuck up attitude as if you have supreme authority over what can and cannot be tagged for deletion. Grow the hell up and stop being a douchebag when you don't get your own damn way with the wiki. I don't want you to go anywhere near my talkpage or ANY messages I leave ANYWHERE on this wiki, got it ? --Speysider Talk Page 22:36, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * ಠ_ಠ--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 23:11, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would apologise but it would not be sincere. I'm not pissed, angry or anything, all I did was call him peculiar.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 23:18, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * And that's the end of it. Enough. Both of you. I don't care to see anyone trying to get a "last word". This ends now.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 23:23, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Mechanical Drilling Arm
No worries, was just making sure in case Spey was gonna go tag it with deletion too and make it a whole thing. Unfortunately I remember Jack all about the drill so I may have to go watch that episode again. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 00:00, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Ajuda
Olá, Cerez, eu sou Brasileiro e Tenho Minha wiki de Naruto.,Lá somos Poucos e Precisamos de ajuda, seria Muito bom se vc soubesse Falar Português., O Omnibender me ajuda por lá tambem. seria muito bom a sua Ajuda.http://pt.narutovicio.wikia.com

Obrigado. --Eduardo.fontes.566 Eduardo.fontes.566 (Mensagens • Contribs) 14:47, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Sakura trap skills
What do you mean by, caught in her trap (Team Dosu)? They never got hit with the log.--Aeonophic (talk) 22:29, November 19, 2012 (UTC)Aeonophic

obito uchiha (chapter) reply
I still don't get the reasoning behind it's removal, but well, I don't feel like having an edit war nor a long argument... it was there to inform people. Also I wouldn't predict what Kishi is or isn't going to do with that... he might change numbers in the upcoming databook for it to "fit" or even (as you say he won't) remove/replace some of them. Try to reason that again... do you feel it's a "junk trivia" or "too trivial for a trivia" ? (lol) i find it important, more than Obito having a light-colored hair in one panel for example--Elveonora (talk) 23:31, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Lightning Transmission
I could ask of you the same thing. If Kakashi taught the Chidori to someone else or if Sasuke was there and on Kakashi's side, then you'd see that it's a Collaboration Technique. Just 'cause a Jutsu was created by one person and that person never taught it to someone else save for someone who turned into a bad guy doesn't mean that Jutsu can only be used by that person who created it only. --X29 00:58, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

This isn't speculation. I'm just using my head. How 'bout you open your mind a bit and let this get through your thick skull, which is the thing that everyone here should do? A clone counts as another person, which means that this Jutsu needs another user of the Lightning Blade. --X29 11:21, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Technically, he did use it with someone else. Kakashi used the Lightning Transmission along with Kakashi. Maybe it doesn't make any sense, but the Shadow Clone counts as another person. It's just like when Naruto was training to create the Wind Style: Rasengan, and was giving up. While he was discussing this with Kakashi, this happened:

Naruto: (Don't recall what he first said, but this happened after it) Can you look to the right and left at the same time?

Kakashi: Silent for a few moments Oh, well, if you're going to ask that (Not sure if that's what he said, but it was something with the same meaning)....... Yeah, I guess it's doable.

Naruto: Looks at Kakashi questioningly Huh?

Kakashi: Stands up straight, then makes a handsign Shadow Clone Jutsu.

A Shadow Clone appears

Kakashi: Looks at the right I'm looking to the right....

Kakashi's Shadow Clone: Looks at the left ..... while I'm looking to the left.

... which, of course, gave our favourite knucklehead the idea of using two Shadow Clones instead of one. But you get the idea, right? --X29 11:44, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Basically, a Shadow Clone counts as someone else yet counts as the same person, depending on the situation. The example above helps prove my point. --X29 05:33, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Your only answer was that Kakashi used a Shadow Clone. You didn't answer me regarding the Shadow Clone being another person or not. --X29 15:47, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Sighs heavily Fiiine. Talkpage it is.. What a drag..... --X29 16:40, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Talkpage edit deletion
--BrennanMulcahey (talk) 11:53, November 23, 2012 (UTC)BrennanMulcahey Don't ever delete or vandalize one of my edits or messages ever again, little sh!t or all have barred from this site are we clear!

Your call, Cerez. --X29 12:34, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Question
Can you tell me what jutsu kabuto used on naruto in the latest episode? Thanks.--(Titans24 (talk) 02:51, November 24, 2012 (UTC))(Titans24)

No the jutsu kabuto used on naruto to drag him underwater?--(Titans24 (talk) 19:58, November 24, 2012 (UTC))(Titans24)

Re: The "other wiki"
Forgive me, my head has been all over the place recently...what?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 13:55, November 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah yes I noticed. Never even knew there was an answers wiki. Any reason why it's linked on our front page?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 15:44, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

An Apology
I am writing this to apologize for my obscene retort a few days ago, I let my anger at having over two hours of my work deleted get the better of me. This is the second time I am posting this because the first one was inverently erased by this site's maintiance shut down cycle. I am withdrawing my previous post because you seem to be a nice person albeit a little overzealous and don't deserve that comment. I am normaly quite polite but because I chose to challenge certian perceptions and postings, I have received many insultig and threatening emails and comments as well as several malicous deletions and blocks. I am not trying to tell people that peolpe's opinion's about certian pairings or the outcome the Naruto series is wrong or anything. It's just that opinions are not facts. People can belive things contray to what other people belive, even what an author writes. I personaly think Harry and Hermoine would been a better couple but J. K. Rowlings thought differently, It's her creation so it's her right as the author. I have been trying to change the Sakura and Hinata subsections of the Naruto Uzumaki's Relationship page to a more neutral positions for months now, not making any headway with that. I don't personaly care how it ends as long as people stick to the facts on that page until Kishimoto ends the story. So far people aren't don't that, which is why Shipping or Coupling pages aren't allow in the first place. Thank you for the advice, my mistakes were done out of inexperince with Wikis not vandalism. Cerez365 please ask your friend X29 to leave my edits alone, he seems to be trying to avenge your honor or something. I am trying to settle this and not create any more disputes, I already have more care to think about. I have to disagree with you about the Shikuza page, the episode clearly states that Naruto loves Sakura for almost five minutes. Posting "someone else" instead of Sakura Haruno to makes it disambiguous instead of factual is appeasement. I am not trying to make it a shipping page but is what it is.--BrennanMulcahey (talk) 06:15, November 26, 2012 (UTC)BrennanMulcahey

Excuse me
Apology for that Edition. It was unintentionally. I was just checking one thing.PS: I love your templates and I'm Spanish, and I don't speak English.

Sasukeuzumaki (Mi discusión) 12:42, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Rin in video games
Naruto Shippūden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations

Ok thanks

Question
Hi Cerez and how are you? Hope to be fine ... I ask you a question, where did you get this image from? Do you buy anime DVDs or something? Because perhaps we could find other images to explain more techniques and scenes from the anime which weren't expanded more in the TV releases. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 09:47, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I get it. Hopefully we could find images like this in the future. Like you, I don't like the anime when they get wrong stuff. ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 10:07, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cerez again. Could you provide me a link for Naruto chapter #611 raws scans? Thanks so much ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk)
 * Thanks so much Cerez, you're the best and btw, the raws scans of the latest chapter have been released in this website ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 13:44, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Kisame and Itachi
I think the part in which Kisame acknowledges Itachi as stronger than him is in one of their Part 1 appearances. Either at Konoha or in the hotel. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:25, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Kage hats
I just put them in the slideshows because when Droid added them, he removed the other images, and in the Kazekage case at least, that was the only place the image was used, and it would be deleted if it wasn't being used, and it was a nice image. I think it might be an interesting idea, though I'm not sure how much worth it would be, considering there are significantly fewer characters on who those would apply than say, village of origin, or nature transformation. I remember this being the case for choosing against creating an icon for denoting the jinchūriki status a long while ago. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:50, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Full-bodied Images
Thanks so much :) ... And about Hidan's image, you're right, it looks so choppy because the source, that's why I rated it as "Medium quality" in the rational use. For Yamato's and Sai's images, these one are quite good for me. But perhaps I could find other good images from Ultimate Ninja games series for the three characters like you did on Anko's image. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 05:04, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol xD ... As you said, and for Hidan's image, I'll try to find something nicer and looks pretty good. ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 10:13, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Senju and Sarutobi- Rehashed
hey umm Cerez remember me? The 13 year old who told you like four months ago that all sarutobi had fire well guess who was right. Now speculating on that i also said that all Senju had water and that the whole clan doesn't have wood just cause Hashirama does well in later chapters i might be right late so ummm yeah.Drew8324 (talk) 04:49, December 9, 2012 (UTC) Drew8324

Jonin-level vs jonin-rank
I believe that not only Kakashi's but all instances of "Jonin-level" should be changed to "Jonin-rank". That's because it creates confusion with the term "Kage-level" which is an arbitrary term but got used in a few cases anyway (such as Jiraiya or Nagato). Either remove the arbitrary "Kage-level" references, or change "Jonin-level" to "Jonin-rank". Xfing (talk) 12:24, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Apology
Don't know if you ended up feeling any affect of it, but by accident, when blocking an IP who added non-sense to the Hokage article, I ended up blocking you by accident. I did it from the RC page, and since you reverted the edit pretty quickly, the link to you and the IP were very near each other, and I probably hit it instead. Speysider saw it an alerted me. My apologies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:36, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * It changes nothing. Site still looks the same, you just can't edit anything. TU3 once blocked me by accident as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:34, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

A question
Hello sempai, a quick question...i've noticed that from a few weeks/months now, there is a series of game and movie techniques on display on the characters infoboxes, something that didn't happen due to their non-canon status. Is this a wikia error or have the policies changed in any way? Darksusanoo (talk) 16:15, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Full bodied images
Hi Cerez-san ^_^ and how are you? I've noticed you uploaded images for some characters on their full bodied appearance. Your Hidan image is much cooler than mine indeed, I think the suggestion for taking the images from Ultimate Ninja series is good idea. Good job ^_^. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 16:32, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, your Hidan's image "for me" is much cooler and smoother than mine, it's just an opinion. Really I hope the authorised websites like TV-Tokyo and Shounen Jump could provide us images like these. (P.S. Seems you didn't like the current filler arc, okay then :) ) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 16:45, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Full Appearances
Hey, I noticed that you used the images from the video games for some full appearances. This was something that I wanted to do a while back, even after we had the one for Naruto with his older and younger self, but I was told it was not allowed. If you're allowing it, I initially tried to use the full appearance of Shukaku from Ultimate Ninja Storm. What do you think? Diamonddeath (talk) 01:09, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm actually talking about the One-Tailed Shukaku. Ultimate Ninja Storm provided an awesome full-body image, since he was in that game as a boss. I uploaded it at least once, but it kept getting removed from the article and deleted. I never understood why, since it was the most detailed, full-bodied image of Shukaku ever. The only other one I can think of is the line art of Shukaku from Uniqlo's shirt of all nine Tailed Beasts. Diamonddeath (talk) 10:27, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

But that's the problem. The current image is not a full-body appearance, since his feet are hidden behind trees. I originally posted it under the appearance section because I thought it was too perfect to pass up. It was a full-body image of Shukaku. Diamonddeath (talk) 03:07, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

I really wish we had an official statement about its feet. I still think the image should be added in the Appearance section. I don't think it would hurt at all. Diamonddeath (talk) 21:23, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

A request
Hello sempai. This is becoming something of a bad routine i know. As you may have noticed, i'm doing some re-structuring into the Wood Release: Cutting Technique, as we saw in chapter 614 that it became a completely different thing that we originally assumed. Now to finish it off i need three pics from Chapter 605 in pages 11-12: one showing Obito throwing the branch and impaling the Kiri, then the one of him doing the Ram sign and the other of the branches exploding inside the poor Kiri-nin, xD. Thank you in advance. Darksusanoo (talk) 00:51, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ebizo's Quote Box
I edited a quote in Ebizo's page. Why'd you delete it? Not only do I know for a fact it's absolutely true, but it seems like kind of a minor thing to go out of your way and change to me. --PITZWIL100 (talk) 10:31, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Itachi's Appearance
Okay, I'm going to vouch for the Itachi appearance details again. Is there any particular line that I removed that you disagree with? Because overall, the edit was on removing redundancy and helping with grammar and flow. I removed "fairly tall" because he's neither notably tall nor short. I replaced onyx with black, because this isn't fanfiction. I removed "peach skin", because Itachi had a normal shade of skin that's not worth mentioning (please get rid it it, before I'm humiliated to death). I don't know what's with the excessive mention on the ponytail, because a ponytail is a ponytail, and if you know what the Akatsuki cloak looks like, you'll know a low-tied ponytail isn't going creeping up the collar and flowing outside. The Tobi thing was for brevity. I didn't say the Uchiha symbol is large, because relative to what? (You can mention the size on Sasuke's because it actually does change). A few more redundant adjectives, like traditional (vs. what, unorthodox?) Dark purple vs. purple: purple by nature is dark. If it were neon or light purple, that might be more worth mentioning. Circles or rings: in fashion terminology, it's rings. Last sentence, grammar tense.

You can disagree with all I've said above, but please, do something about that peach skin.

Formerly140 (talk) 20:18, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think I removed actual details, just fluff. As for 3/4th, the page was wordy and tiring to read, so I did aim for concision. Honestly, I think it's more worth mentioning his long eyelashes than mentioning the shade of purple of his nail polish.

Onyx eyes: Black is professional, and I think more suiting for a wikia page. Same reason why we say blood is red, not crimson. Fangirls describe the Uchiha with "onyx eyes" and "raven hair" all the time; doesn't mean we should do that too. Similarity in appearance: For concision, I rearranged the Tobi part. It's still here; I never removed it. Ponytail: I think it's superfluous, but point taken. The bigger problem is that those sentences are awkward, long, and grammatically incorrect. When I have time, I'll go back to somehow keep the details but fix the flow. ANBU Uniform: I agree there's nothing wrong with mentioning the uniform. I think it's redundant to say the uniform is traditional. Purple: I agree. Hence, I kept it simple and wrote purple.

Thank you for your patience with me. A lot of this IS nitpicking, but my overall goal was to keep it more concise and clean to read. Formerly140 (talk) 21:07, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Template creation
Do you know how to create templates?? like this, where i can just reuse it?

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox/Naruto/Character Qtin Davis (talk) 15:51, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try them out. Thank you. Qtin Davis (talk) 15:54, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Why the change?
Sempai, why did you change back the image in the Gunbai article? The one i put actually shows the weapon in full, the previous one you only see half of it at the very best. Darksusanoo (talk) 10:41, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Why do you keep editing out Naruto's accomplishments?
Naruto was the one who ultimately overpowered Obito's five Tailed Beasts with the Tailed Beast Ball clash, and freed them all at once. Bee didn't provide much more help than during the brawl. And when Naruto survived one of Madara's assaults, Madara became serious. It was laid down right in the manga in both instances.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:21, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * From what I've read and seen, Madara was taking Naruto lightly, and when Naruto survived the attack he decided to take him seriously. Not because he announced he was Minato's son. And What was Bee doing during the entire Bijudama beam battle? Nothing. Naruto overpowered the Bijudama with his own and why wouldn't freeing the Tailed Beasts simultaneously show abilities? You account for Sasuke's accomplishments or Nagatos against Kage level opponents, but you cut out Naruto's out.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:15, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * About Madara, its about Naruto forcing him to become serious far faster than he was with the Kages. And Naruto's Bijudama would have be slightly stronger so it had enough power to knock both into the air to explode simultaneously. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:31, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Madara had to get serious, he even used the best chance of defeating Naruto, the Wood Dragon, to put him down even though it failed. Why would he announce it if he wasn't serious?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 23:09, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

And the Tailed Beast's death isn't permanent. Madara would have benefited more to killing Naruto and capturing Kurama when he's out of Naruto. Hell from the looks of it, Naruto robbed him of his fan too during the offscreen battle. Naruto himself was being taken seriously. That's what was shown and said...not seeing why you'd fight so much to make it seem like Madara would never take Naruto seriously.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 23:18, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Deva Path Pain
Is there any word yet as to who voiced Pain's Deva Path in the English Dub? It's not on his page. --PITZWIL100 (talk) 03:32, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

No, that's for Yahiko. I mean on the Deva Path's page, when Nagato creates all the Paths. You know, the guy who's at every meeting of the current generation of the Akatsuki, and who destroys the entire leaf. That guy. He kind of sounds like Itachi, (my favorite character), so I was thinking it was Crispin Freeman, but I'm not for sure. --PITZWIL100 (talk) 06:15, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Itachi's Crow Article
Well, nice to see someone who can actually justify his actions here. I'm okay with it then.94.135.242.181 (talk) 11:19, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Itachi rigged the crow, not the eye itself. Otherwise, the eye would've been activated while the crow was still inside Naruto, and the crow wouldn't get out if it wasn't rigged itself. Also, the eye doesn't work by itself. It's the one who has the eye, which is the crow. --X29 11:22, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * but wait, if the crow is not the user, then who is it then? itachi himself?94.135.242.181 (talk) 11:27, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indirectly, both of them can be considered users: Itachi for "rigging" the eye and the crow for actually doing the "leg work". However, neither of them actually "used" the technique.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:32, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Made the crow appear? How do you suppose did he do that? He was controlled by Kabuto at the time to use Amaterasu. The crow was to appear once Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan was seen. How do you suppose Itachi was to make the crow appear when he was technically a talking puppet? --X29 11:30, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

The anonymous user asked a very good question. Who's the user if it isn't the crow? The eye? Yeah, that sounds very logical. The eye uses the eye. --X29 11:32, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Itachi rigged the crow to appear from within Naruto should Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan be sensed and to also use Kotoamatsukami. The only thing where an eye itself was rigged was the Transcription Seal for Sasuke. --X29 11:49, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Itachi rigged the crow to use Kotoamatsukami with the command "Protect the Leaf Village". That's what I said earlier. Not literally, but basically. --X29 17:38, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not going by assumptions this time. I'm going by what happened. Itachi rigged the crow to do just that. The intelligence of crows is irrelevant. --X29 18:17, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

anime mistake
In the last Chikara arc episode when Kakashi stands on the trees, he doesn't have a Sharingan in his left eye and it appears like it's in the right socket instead, but possibly it's not there either (hard to see) thus he has none--Elveonora (talk) 14:43, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I see, just though it to be mention worthy somewhere--Elveonora (talk) 15:32, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm... if you are okay with: Then it should be an enjoyable arc to watch ;D--Elveonora (talk) 17:11, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * pseudo-incest
 * fodder characters (yeah, revive Inabi Uchiha and 10 others to do nothing significant ._.)
 * power reversal (strong characters turning weak and the latter being overpowered, at least this time it wasn't a guy that sounds and looks female but some alien tower turning Naruto's clone created from nano-snakes into hydra ;D Also I thought Kabuto was top 15 power-wise, he did nothing in the filler, same goes for Kakashi T_T)
 * embarrassing scenes denying intelligence
 * censorship
 * cliche as hell
 * anti-canonicity, them trying too hard to be Kishi, creating many plotholes in the process

chikara arc family
since omnibender is ignoring me, I am asking you to change the family relationships of the chikara arc family. I really like these characters, so I would be really glad if finally somebody could finish their articles. thank you.94.135.242.181 (talk) 18:14, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * it's okay now.94.135.242.181 (talk) 18:24, January 13, 2013 (UTC)