Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20161030085406/@comment-25643824-20161213235426

@kakashisologod did you see the Kages help him because I sure didn't.

Now you are just grasping at straws, of course if didn't have kuruma he would not have had any BM, but can you tell how he would have developed otherwise. He is the reincarnation of ashura, he inherited the body of hagoromo, combined that with uzumaki chakra reserves and healing. Hashirama was a beast without being a jink. As a matter of fact sasuke was the only akatsuki member that couldn't capture a jink, gara and all the other jink with the exception of bee were captured by members of akatsuki that weren't even jinks themselves. If naruto was trained by Minato, kushina, kakashi and jairiya he would be a lethal beast. You sound like just began to read the manga.

He was exhausted obviously not to the point of collapsing, that came later on during the fight with sasuke. You know gradual decline 100-90-80-70....10 he was probably at 50 or 40% when he began to fight sasuke.