Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170904204034/@comment-26636534-20171010170410

@Natrix

So, you can't back up your statements?

As mentioned before, A was raging out and coming straight at Sasuke, Sasuke was charging towards A as well, all Sasuke had to do was use his Sharingan to duck under A's attack. Not the best indication of speed.

Sasuke needs thunderclouds to perform Kirin, thats the whole point of the technique, so yes, he needs quite a bit of preparations.

It was rudimentary, or are you claiming it was one of Hashirama's high level techniques? Which one was it then?

Again, Jiraiya is a mid-ranged fighter, so please stop with the blitz argument. Jiraiya not getting blitzed.

I said a toad could reverse summon him. Also he could just slip into a barrier or another toad and escape. But, Kirin itself is unlikely to be used, due to the preparations I mentioned. If Kirin is in play, then SM with the two sage toads would also be in play. Which would add the possibility of Jiraiya dodging Kirin.

Jiraiya can use lion mane or swamp technique to immobilize Susanoo. He can also summon Gamabunta, who can definitely deal with Susanoo. UBBR appears to be able to break apart Susanoo. Don't forget toad chant and all the other sage techniques. There's also summoning:toad mouth bind and food cart destroyer. Don't underestimate him, even though this Sasuke will lol.