Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34656247-20181008062436/@comment-6769189-20181009195127

CombatIQmatters wrote:

People like to claim itachi would lose to nagato when we clearly saw on panel that Itachi defeated him. Kcm naruto and killer bee had nothing to do with itachi roflwtfblitzing nagato with the totsuka blade. Nagato couldn't react. Itachi had help.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Orochimaru also literally got caught in between words. This evidence proves imo that from a standard distance itachi only needs one second to land that blade. Orochimaru didnt have the intel to know he actually had to dodge the Totsuka blade.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

one second is only enough time if you are a god tier, a sage, minato, or ayy, or shisui, or anyone around that level of speed and reflexes. Characters have been lightning levels of speed since at least the Sasuke vs Itachi fight.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Madara would use perfect susano'o against itachi's smaller susano'o thinking he is invincible and underestimate itachi and then get stabbed and sealed. PS is so big its questionable if the blade actually reach Madara inside

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Hashhirama vs itachi is again dependent on the yata mirror and penetrative capablities of the blade. Even then, I see hashirama getting caught in tsykuyomi because he seems to be overconfident about his ability in breaking uchiha genjutsu due to his experience. his experience would work against him because he can't answer itachi's tsykuyomi using brute force. Even if he does get cought his bodies natural resistance and healing may save him from death. Itachi exhausted himself against Kakashi who was healed by Tsunade. Hashirama has auto-healing so he will be healing even while cought in Tsukuyomi

CombatIQmatters wrote:

That said, itachi or minato both stomp the 6 paths of pain solo. Pitting them both against the pains is spite. lol. pain was barely faster than kakashi, and itachi is noticeably faster than kakashi in every way. The Kakashi Itachi fought was from much earlier in the series. There isnt a direct comparison between the two at the time of Itachi's death but Raikiri is faster than lightning and Pain dodged it so he isnt as slow as you are making him out to be.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

The way i see it, if the pains take their standard formation itachi sends in a bunshin feint and then kills 3-4 of the pains using the totsuka blade in one blow, At this point, alive/sick Itachi is pretty much out of chakra, and this is assuming that Preta Path just doesnt absorb Susanoo.

This is also has hi summons to keep Itachi pressed. He may have to use Susanoo from the

CombatIQmatters wrote:

if naruto was able to outsmart their formation so can itachi Naruto had help from his summons to hold back Pains summons and they helped kill off at least 3 of them.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

I used to think Minato would lose to EMS madara until very, very recently. I think minato would only lose to rinnegan madara and above. minato and itachi is enough for ems madara imo. minato can't beat hashirama, even with kcm. Given how Madara doesnt start with Susanoo i can see him losing.