Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-24168857-20141020124144/@comment-25478058-20141021081710

Blaezej wrote: How so? You underestimate Kakashi. Really. He's a very confident, smart, cunning and cautious ninja. He's proved it time and again to be on par with almost anyone, save for Obito, Madara, Naruto and Sasuke, I guess...

But my point is, he's no longer that Kakashi from the beginning of Shippuuden who would stay comatose after usage of Kamui.

Either way, I don't think the fight would drag for long enough for Guy to win with his huge stamina.

I just typed up a huge reply to this but I wasn't logged in and got lost! I'll try to remember it.

Kakashi is a very quick thinker but Guy has trained to beat Kakashi and has trained specifically to counter the Sharingan. So because they know each other so well that becomes kind of moot to me.

As far as Kakashi's chakra levels, they have clearly improved. But exactly by how much is tricky without a databook. The war arc is also difficult to judge his chakra by, considering he got Naruto/Kurama's chakra at least 2x, was healed by Sakura at least once, and then finally got Obito's chakra. But I definitely agree, his reserves are leagues better than they used to be, borrowed chakra or not. Still, his techniques are very chakra-taxing.

Yes, I agree that the fight between Guy and Kakashi would be decided quickly. Either Guy moves fast to overwhelm Kakashi before he can strike or Kakashi strikes first with a fast kill shot. If Guy can put Kakashi on the defensive it becomes a matter of stamina. Despite better reserves I don't think Kakashi would beat Guy on stamina, especially if he's using elemental ninjustu evasively the way he did against Pain. Kakashi's best chance in the fight is to surprise Guy, quickly, before he gets going. I mean, Guy was able to take down Kisame, who is a chakra beast. Kakashi's tactical skills are his biggest advantage against Guy, but he can only use them if he has the time, and Guy is fast.

For another example of Kakashi on the defensive, look at him fighting Kakuzu. That was a long time ago, but he burned through his chakra and would have lost if not for his team. Kakuzu is a very different style opponent than Guy, but evasion was key, as it would be against Guy. Kakashi is durable but he can't tank a Hirudora.

To bring in their emotional states, Guy has also never been shown to freeze up/hold back the way Kakashi did against Obito, so in a fight to the death he might gain a split second advantage if Kakashi hesitates.

This is one of my favorite matchups in the whole series so I've spent a fair amount of time thinking about it haha. I could probably go the other way and think of some ways why Kakashi would beat Guy, but I feel like people underestimate Guy still so I root for him a little.

Another way to imagine this fight is if neither of them knew the other's abilties. Would Guy lose against the Sharingan? or would Kakashi underestimate Guy and get overwhelmed by the Gates?