Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-24168857-20150708081120/@comment-5936871-20150801062708

Vacent wrote: Them being kids is irrelevant. Sarada, and Sasuke had no issue attacking them. Curse Seal doesn't have to be Sage Mode, Sasuke isn't going to be absorbing that (since it's not possible) he'll be absorbing the NE which he is capable of doing because of prior experience with handling it. Please stop saying "I'll say it again". You've been "saying it again" throughout this thread, and clearly you still aren't getting the point across. I digress...Naruto's priorities with kids is besides the point (for reasons I explained above) remove them from the equation and in the end he was a non factor against the original Shin who's an adult. I haven't said anything to prove Sasuke is strong? That needs not to be proven. His S/T power is at the level in which he can interdimensionally travel, Nothing in Naruto's arsenal comes close to that. Sasuke can send Naruto to a different plane, and he'll be in the same predicament he's in during the Boruto movie plot or after Kaguya was sealed and they had no clue how to leave her core dimension. Besides that, Sasuke has Chibaku Tensei to turn Naruto into a gravitational singularity, Amenotejikara to serve as offense/defense, Rinnegan genjutsu to immobilize Naruto (albeit for mere moments if Kurama cooperates), Perfect Susano'o & his right Mangekyō (Enton) are self explanatory. The mishap with Sasuke's sword during the Gaiden already demonstrates the danger of close quarter combat since Naruto's cloak is vulnerable to it. Adult Sasuke has demonstrated clones so we can expect that, and perhaps even the use of Susano'o via clones like with Madara vs the Gokage. Speaking of that, complete Kurama's avatar head is smaller then that of Sasuke's PS head, a simple glance of chapter 5 & 9 will confirm that. I therefore see no difference in Naruto obtaining the full thing. At least not if we're comparing it to Sasuke's Susano'o. Does Naruto or his Avatar still possess the ability of flight? I have yet to see either do so post the VOTE battle. If I give Naruto Goudama (despite the being no indication he has it) there is still no threat to Sasuke who has previously battled thrice with people that could utilize it. Overall there is nothing from Naruto that can him a definite win, especially when most of his RSM related abilities appear to have been lost. Sasuke may be able to absorb some natural energy, but he is not absorbing all of Naruto's immensely powerful attacks charged with tailed beasts chakra and natural energy. Sasuke's body cannot handle all of that, and he cannot absorb that much natural energy without turning to stone. Also, none of us even know how Sasuke's inter dimensional travel works yet. So saying he can just send Naruto there without much of a problem, can't be said to be true or not true. Sasuke can't use Chibaku Tensei on Naruto, he has shown the capability to easily destroy multiple chibaku tenseis in an instant, and if Sasuke could use it directly on Naruto like he did against the beast he would have done so already, and even if he could. Do you really think that a Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto in Tailed Beast Mode couldn't just break out immediately afterwards? His Amenotejikara also has a limit of only being used three times in a row, and then his eyes have to rest, and Naruto's level of speed is what allows him to combat that jutsu anyway. His Complete Body - Susanoo clashed on equal grounds with half of Kurama, Naruto now has all of Kurama. He also was able to counter Amaterasu by using his weakened chakra cloak when Kurama was nearly out of chakra. So how does Sasuke's Susanoo and Amaterasu help at all? Naruto's cloak was capable of tanking Sasuke's Chidori at point blank, Sasuke's sword piercing Naruto's cloak when he let his guard down doesn't mean anything. Alright, so Sasuke can use shadow clones that can all use Susanoo. Naruto can create a lot more clones than Sasuke can, and Naruto's clones have shown the ability to enter Tailed Beast Mode. So how does that help Sasuke? Naruto and Toneri were clearly flying in The Last, so he can still fly. I do agree with you that Naruto lost the TSBS though, but it's not like he used them much against Sasuke anyway since he hardly had any left, and their fight still ended in a tie despite Naruto not having half of Kurama, out of chakra from the other beasts, and Naruto having nearly no TSBs left. So overall, Naruto should logically still be stronger than Sasuke just like Hashirama was to Madara.

Using Gaiden as proof that Naruto is suddenly so much weaker than Sasuke because he's gotten rusty, when he also has done hardly anything in Gaiden doesn't make sense. I mean, alright he's gotten a bit rusty. He isn't used to fighting battles on this calibre or probably any in a long time. But neither is Sasuke, who even though he couldn't use Rinnegan or MS, was incapable of deflecting some shuriken with his normal Sharingan and sword. Honestly, neither of them have done anything major in several years. So both of them are a bit rusty. I just want people to stop saying that Sasuke is suddenly much stronger than Naruto and can defeat him because Naruto was stated to have gotten rusty in Gaiden because he was taken by surprised and stabbed, when Sasuke couldn't even deflect a few shuriken without directly jumping in the way. I'm not even hating on Sasuke, I'm just annoyed by the whole constant "Is Sasuke stronger than Naruto now?" or "Who will win now? Naruto or Sasuke?" when it was clear that Naruto was stronger in their final fight considering they tied when Naruto had more disadvantages than Sasuke did, when Sasuke was hyped up on stealing the power from the other beasts. Now, Naruto has both halves of Kurama, and Sasuke doesn't have any chakra from the other beast. So where is all of this Sasuke >>> Naruto coming from? Cause Naruto was stated to have gotten rusty after being taken by surprise and praised Sasuke's skills? What? Are we reading the same Manga here? I'd just like the constant debates over who is superior to come to an end. Sasuke himself even said Naruto was the true winner, Asura conquered Indra and brought Indra back to the good side by defeating him. Their conflict is over, in the end good prevailed over Indra's hatred and it should have been made clear which side was superior.