Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35036470-20180318150434/@comment-26107879-20180322093311

@Hero.

Just read the scan. It wasn't a blitz. Madara clearly watches as the entire force comes at him but did nothing other than stood there. As a reanimation he didn't care. Lots of people hit him, he was reckless, going as far as destroying himself. If you disagree, you are basically stating a Kyubi Infused Lee could one shot a Rinnegan Madara while a 5th Gate Lee couldn't even reach him with Gai earlier that fight. So either way, my point stands firm. It's either that Kyubi Lee can one shot Rinnegan Madara and is beyond stronger than 5th Gate Lee, or Madara wasn't trying to dodge and the feat doesn't count.

Not to mention, there is evidence that Lee was in Eight Gates when he attacked Madara, his hair was sticking up even when he was standing still, which isn't a trait from Kurama's Cloak (Sakura and all them didn't have their hair sticking up). So he had both, the Gates and Cloak. Ch 617.

Also, on par with Kakashi without Gates? Now you jest. Kakashi with Ms can easily wipe the floor with Gai without the Gates, especially since Kakashi has been shown capable of opening the Gates himself. It was also stated that Kakashi and Gai were equal. Not to mention Gai needed the Sixth Gate to beat a 30% Kisame and the 7th Gate to barely beat him without Samehada. Itachi stated Kisame and Kakashi were also equal in strength according to the wiki on the Kakashi vs Itachi chapter page, when they fought in part 1. So if Kakashi was equal to a Samehada Kisame, and 7th Gate Gai was barely stronger than a Kisame without Samehada, then it is safe to assume they are equal.