Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35409024-20180511192505/@comment-32685487-20180511201804

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Release:_Blast_Wave_Wild_Dance

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Uchiha_Flame_Formation

Obito has Kamui and is physically almost as fast as Minato. Madara has more chakra and more destructive ninjutsu.