Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180728104553/@comment-34194151-20180731172630

@LoneNinja

When did Kishi say that sub is inferior to shunshin??? I just read the wiki article on it again, the user creates an optical illusion by replacing themselves with an object.

When kabuto stabbed Itachi, itachi was in mid air and impaled... since when does has anyone used shunshin in mid air like that? Also, against Jiriaya, The animal Path used subsitution while he wasalready restrained by Jiriaya's lion mane jutsu. It's clearly not just speed.

Even if it is simply speed, then we have to reconcile the fact that Itachi was moving too fast for a Perfect Sage to percieve, so I highly doubt Obito is tracking him when he uses substitution. OBito will be forced to react to itachi when he appears behind him, and of course he is fast enough to react, its just that I don't see him tagging Itachi with kamui early on in the fight.