Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28439986-20160731140457/@comment-27924662-20160806211604

SwordSlayer99 wrote: "toneri was never outsped even by sm kurama mode"

I didn't say SM+Kurama mode outsped him, I said him and Naruto were roughly = in speed(They were blitzing around the moons surface fighting)

I only said that his top speed could be higher especially since he even stopped all of naruto's clones at same time... SwordSlayer99 wrote: " besides even Toneri was powering that golem with his tenseigan so I would say both were on even grounds" "whereas momo lost eventually so I would say that evens the things out"

Their is literally 2 power ups between Toneri and Momoshiki dude. SPSM >>> BSM >>> BM >>Full power KCM+SM >> Weakened KCM+SM = Toneri in speed. BSM Naruto went from barely being able to see Obito move to keeping up with Madara in one power up Madara > Toneri > Obito Naruto went from slower than Obito to keeping up with someone faster than Toneri in 1 power up.... oh And please don't tell me that you don't know the fact that TSB's can't be touched without unlocking SPSM which is the main reason why naruto can even touch TSB's and momo shouldn't be able to.

SwordSlayer99 wrote:

"besides he can easily use TSBs to stop all momo's attack while he absorbs all momo's chakra..."

In The-Last Naruto the movie SM+KCM Naruto's Rasengan barrage broke through Toneri's TSB shield. That's also not to mention Naruto punched threw the moon cutter(Which is made out of TSB's). If SM+KCM Naruto can destroy Toneri's TSB's, then people vastly more powerful than him would also be able to break through the TSB's.... Besides KCM was applicable only when kurama didn't cooperate whereas now he does i.e. in last Naruto used the sage-BM TSB shield should give him enough time to dry momo..if he can finish all of naruto's chakra in few second and Naruto=momo than momo will also be dry in few secs....