Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-34194151-20180905074559

@Nashikeine

When was it stated that that perfect susano'o isn't a power of EMS? Because that was never stated or implied. Most people who have a MS often go to blindness before they can fully realize their susano'o. Itachi isn't a chakra monster by any means, yet he is capable of generating a very sturdy armored susano'o. He reached his eye limit at this point, and was already on the verge of death by the time he fought sasuke. Sasuke literally lost his MS fairly quickly, but even then, he still managed to manifest a fully armored susan'o before getting blind. EMS very clearly unlocks the potential and the practicality for an uchiha to fully realize their susano'o. Sasuke and madara may have huge chakras, but nowhere was it stated that being an indira incarnate or poessing ridoku chakra allow you to get PS.

Also, naruto never killed the ashura path with a punch, he used a rasengan. This is a common misconception due to the angle kishimoto used, but you can clearly see a ball of chakra in naruto's hand if you look carefully. A better strength feat to cite is him throwing boss summons around like they are toys

Further, while it's true tayuya's genjutsu was heightened due to sage mode, it's also a mere assumption that sasuke and itachi were incapable of breaking it by themselves. Itachi was in kurenai's genjutsu for a good while too, but then he showed he could break it with ease. Itachi and sasuke used partner method because it's more efficient and faster, this was established during the kazekage rescue arc. It's the same reason killer bee doesn't bother trying to break out of genjutsu himself, when gyuki can do it after no more than a few seconds.