User talk:Kunoichi101

Hello Kunoichi101, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia. We do hope that you will stay for a long time. Enjoy your stay as we work to become the best Naruto info site out there. BELIEVE IT!

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 * ~The Greeting Team Dekoshu talk contrib 15:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Editing practices
Okay, so I don't understand what your problem is, but this is just going to equate to your last and final chance to be a member of this wiki. You have been told by nearly half the damn wiki about your editing practices and yet you are still obsessed with making unimportant edits and making many edits in a god damn row. Why do you seem to make absolutely no effort to listen? Do you think that having 25k edits somehow makes you impervious to any requests?

So I'm going to make it simple: stop making pointless (and totally minor) edits all the time and make use of the preview button. If you are not going to listen to your editors, then your ability to edit here will be taken away. Forever. I do not care if you make edits "just in case", this wiki is not a public ******* sandbox for you to make whatever edits you please.

Do what you are asked or you will get no more right to edit here. And I assure you: I will be asking all the sysops to watch you like a hawk for any more pointless edits. And I don't even care if you find this rude, because I (and many editors here) have had enough of you. Do as asked or leave. --Sajuuk talk 20:11, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, due to the numerous requests others have made and the fact you've said things like that before, I cannot believe you until I see you making an effort to stop making pointless, unimportant contributions here. So until you can show this wiki community that you can contribute more than just minor edits, your acceptable can't be taken at face value. --Sajuuk talk 20:23, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * And just like I fully expected from you, it took you all of 30 seconds to completely disregard the above and continue making pointless and unnecessary edits. So yeah, I'll just message the sysops and ask they infinitely block you from here. You don't have any intention of listening and many have given up giving a ****. So yeah, enjoy your infinite block. --Sajuuk talk 21:36, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * And I'm just gonna ask out loud, when did I say to stop letting me know when Kunoichi101 did something that pissed you off?--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 22:54, April 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't feel indefinitely blocking Kunoichi101 is in the wiki's interests. She's one of the few people who actually reads articles and makes the minor grammar corrections that most don't notice or bother to do themselves. In that respect, she's a unique asset.
 * However, entirely ignoring other people is not something you (Kunoichi101) can continue doing. I, for example, made what I thought was a reasonable request that you start previewing your edits before you make them. Yet you're doing a spectacularly poor job of it; just today you made three edits in four minutes, two edits in one minute, and four edits in four minutes. Why?
 * Let me ask a question that I've wondered about in regards to these issues you've had: where do you live and where are you from? You can respond here, in order to keep this discussion centralized. ~SnapperTo 00:17, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure my observation counts, but over time, I've realized that all we've been doing the vast majority of the time is telling her what not to do. However, from the little time I've spoken with her, she seems to be in the dark of what she should be doing. I assume, that's the reason why she continues doing the edits she's been told not to do, because she doesn't really know what the right kind of edits are or how else to contribute.
 * She also doesn't seem to know the difference between minor edits and edits that either don't change the appearance of the page or edits that are spontaneous and clearly don't use the preview button. I've already asked her to begin observing the edits of veteran users such as you (SnapperTwo) and others. Just my input. Also, Kunoichi101, please answer Snapper's question. 00:33, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * There's no type of edit that any user "should" do. Users can contribute in whatever way they wish. If Kunoichi101 wants to continue making minor grammatical and formatting edits, she is absolutely free to do so.
 * The issue is when she ignores the requests of other users. I acknowledge they are requests, so she is technically free to ignore them. But that's rude, then, very anti-community; she should make the effort to oblige others. Using my request as an example: I do not expect her to catch everything in the preview window. She will, from time to time, not notice something until after she's saved the edit. But that, in theory, should only happen a couple times a week, not a couple times a day. ~SnapperTo 00:59, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * You are correct in the notion that she must cease ignoring user requests. Even after this, she still continues to do the edits she's been told not to. Like I said, what I came up with was merely an assumption. However, I'll relent for now and let her answer your question. 01:07, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I asked because I didn't think English was your first language, and your response confirms that. Which explains why you predominately make minor edits; you want to contribute to the wiki but you aren't comfortable or able to make the larger types of content edits that other users do. And that's fine. Like I said earlier, your contributions are valuable and you should be free to continue making them. But if a user asks you to not make certain types of edits or to change your editing practices, you should try to follow their request. If you aren't certain what they're asking or why they're asking it, you need only to ask them. ~SnapperTo 01:47, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * What WindStar said sums up my response to her question of asking what she should do. The reason I don't generally get on Omnibender's case about it is not because he is a sysop, but because he actually does make major contributions and isn't just a minor editor, so he balances the minor crap with major contributions. Whereas in Kunoichi's case, it's all minor edits.
 * I would not say that Kunoichi is a unique asset to the wiki. As I have already mentioned, Omnibender does the same edits anyway. However, if she doesn't actually have a clue what she is supposed to be doing here, then I respectfully question why she makes it her effort to spam minor edits. Making all these minor corrections should not be a fallback for having no idea how to improve the wiki.
 * It only takes me 30 seconds to look at the wiki and notice things that need to be done, but she is making no effort to actually look for the major jobs needing to be done, instead just making minor (unimportant) contributions that, 99% of the time, don't change the appearance of the page, which she has been asked to stop making.
 * So yeah, I don't feel that Kunoichi should continue to edit here, there are other users who can do these edits if they so wish, but Kunoichi's continued inability to listen to editors is tiring and a waste of energy for all users here. We should not have to continue to complain about her, the wiki was actually a far better place while she was blocked.
 * As you can see, barring a small amount of red link fixing I did several months ago, I don't go around making edits just for the sake of "I don't know how to contribute". That should be a hint that you don't need to flood the wiki in minor edits, if you don't know how to contribute, then maybe making no edit at all is better. But if you persist in ignoring editor requests, it will only end in one outcome in time.
 * EDIT: Asking a sysop to block you was valid, you don't make any effort to listen. I notice English is not your second language, but that really isn't an excuse against your inability to understand basic things like "stop". --Sajuuk talk 07:40, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but like I said before, I can't take you at face value from posts any more. You need to show us, rather than just tell us: everytime you've said something on a talkpage, it has turned out to be nonsense and you've done it so often that words meaning absolutely nothing.
 * And it was valid. I asked you to stop making the edits, you refused to listen: considering how often you've done it, I'd say that was a valid reason to go to a sysop and ask them to block you. You fail to understand that editors can be blocked for any or no reason at all, for any length of time a sysop decides: due to your inability to heed my request, I contacted sysops to involve themselves in this situation, nothing wrong with that.
 * Did you not even notice you were blocked for 2 weeks by Seelentau for exactly THAT reason ? Your inability to listen to other editors ? --Sajuuk talk 07:51, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * You can do whatever you please if it'll get you to contribute something else. But as you'll notice, my focus is more on the forums: that is why I am a forum operator. If you cannot reasonably contribute to the wiki, then maybe focus on some other aspect of the site, such as the forums. --Sajuuk talk 07:56, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Do stop threatening the poor girl(?). That will serve nothing and quite frankly it is getting rather old. SnapperTo and WindStar7125 have already stepped in to address this, so your contribution to dealing with Kunoichi101 is respectfully noted but no longer necessary.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:41, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not threatening her and I don't appreciate being asked to step out of a discussion which I actually started. WindStar said he stepped out of the discussion, so what's your point? --Sajuuk talk 11:47, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * "So I'm going to make it simple: stop making pointless (and totally minor) edits all the time and make use of the preview button. If you are not going to listen to your editors, then your ability to edit here will be taken away. Forever."
 * "You fail to understand that editors can be blocked for any or no reason at all, for any length of time a sysop decides: due to your inability to heed my request, I contacted sysops to involve themselves in this situation, nothing wrong with that."
 * If those aren't threats then I am now Jesus Christ reborn a Shinobi (So basically I'm Naruto). And my point is that if your contribution to stopping Kunoichi101, when I told you last time to let me know when she pissed you off was to let me handle it, is to threaten with a Forever Blocking Forever, then it is not necessary. Not that it'll stop you or anything because at this point you are just that predictable, but rather it be stated than left in the air.
 * Anywho, in the end Kunoichi101, do your observations as you posted on Snapper2's talk page. I will be looking closely at your edits for any potential problems, and just to be clear doing minor edits don't make you a useless editor, just a minor editing one so there is no need for you to change all that. BUT I WILL BE WATCHING YOUR EDITS AND YOUR TALK PAGE CLOSELY. Just you know, to make sure everything is going on smoothly.
 * And now to abuse the hell out of my Sysop big letter thing. Any further concerns regarding this please take it to my Talk Page.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 14:23, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * If SuperSajuuk would like for Kunoichi101 to stop making minor edits, and if SuperSajuuk takes only "30 seconds to look at the wiki and notice things that need to be done", then maybe the solution is for SuperSajuuk to advise Kunoichi101 on editing projects? ~SnapperTo 17:14, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * No Snapper, considering how you and a ton of other users have asked Kunoichi101 to stop, maybe it's up to you and everyone else to tell Kunoichi101 what to contribute. I an simply regurgitating the same message that has been posted by COUNTLESS OTHER MEMBERS in the vain hope they will bother to listen.
 * And also, discussions cannot just be closed because a sysop can't be bothered to be involved in said discussion, so removed the pointless notices. If you are going to keep on dismissing me because you can't be bothered to do your duty as sysops, then maybe you shouldn't be sysops here any longer, because I am still increasingly finding that my time here is doing what you sysops seem to be making no effort to do whatsoever: maybe that says a lot.
 * Anyway, I'm out of this discussion, but if I see any more pointless edits, I'm not even going to bother giving warnings and will go to Dantman to get involved. --Sajuuk talk 18:00, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I and other users have asked her to stop making certain types of edits. You seem to be asking her to make no edits whatsoever. There is a difference. ~SnapperTo 18:05, April 14, 2015 (UTC)