Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26773508-20150731084524/@comment-24883456-20150802124453

Kakashi without Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan will never be as strong as War Arc MS Kakashi, clearly. Losing precognition and copying ability is such a trouble but can be circumvented, the genjutsu thing is really a dropout though, but losing Kamui is really a giant problem; it's probably the most haxxed jutsu in the Narutoverse. Just think: it doesn't matter how powerful it's your attack, there probably will be a defense strong enough to stop it... but Kamui basically says "fuck this... I'll just warp that shit and you in a millisecond". Not even going on DMS Kakashi with all Kamui powers, Perfect Susanoo, Kamui Raikiri, Rikudo enhanced speed and chakra and so on.

But. Even without Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan, Kakashi should be still above low S-ranked people like the Mizukage. He has several ways to defeat her; in CQC distance he blitzes and murks her, on mid distance he can fight Suiton with Suiton and then use Raiton, even empowered by the water, to kill her, on a long distance he can avoid Yoton with ease and Futton with Doton underground, then use a clone to pierce Mei from underground; if Deva Path was almost completely surprised and hit (when Deva in an exausted state could react and dodge point blank SM Naruto's Rasenshuriken after a surprise diversion), Mei is clearly killed. Kakashi has the speed to dodge Yoton all the day, avoids Futton by going underground, he can also freely spam clones and Raiton ninjutsu without having to be afraid of Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan chakra draining (not that it was even a problem with his War Arc feats). Mei gets easily killed with the long range version of Raikiri, Raijuu Tsuiga, she neither hasn't the speed to dodge it nor she can stop is since her Suijinchu would just power up the lightning. Not to mention Raiton: Shiden that in the novel was hyped to be really powerful, even greatly impressing Onoki.

Sharingan Kakashi he stomps Mei, be it part 1 Kakashi, Shippuden Kakashi or War Arc Kakashi it doesn't actually change much, the jutsu used change actually, but the results is the same, Kakashi owns the Mizukage.

No Sharingan Kakashi wins as well, as said, Mei has no counter for Raijuu Tsuiga or Raiton: Shinden or Kage Bunshin feints while Kakashi can dodge Yoton, avoid Futton with Doton underground travelling and fight Suiton with Suiton, or with Doton, or take advantage of that with Raiton, not to mention how Sharingan or not Kakashi is much faster, smarter and versatile.