Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170916201627/@comment-24824859-20170918020754

Ninjachris wrote: None of them can solo hashi and madara when sasuke bisected Madara he had sufficient time to turn around and utter a full sentence he chose not to defend himself. Since sensing occurs whether or not the person sees the opponent one can deduce it occurs just as fast or faster than sight, if shin could react with his MS Madara will more than be able to with his rinnegan. It's not shin's fault sasuke chose that type of attack.

There are always these what if posts about ameno while in actual cannon battles sasuke has never single handedly defeated anyone with ameno and I'm fairly certain he never will but all of sudden he could do it to both hashi and rinnegan Madara what utter BS. Sasuke easily solos. well I'm not too sure about Naruto since SPSM is restricted. Madara barely turned around, when Sasuke bisected him. Go reread the chapter and you'll see that as soon as Madara took Kakashi's eye, Sasuke showed up, sliced him in half, before Kakashi went to the ground in pain. Madara didn't even say anything, he was merely thinking to himself, which still doesn't indicate that he could have physically reacted. Therfore, it can be argued that Sasuke indeed blitzed Madara. Just because you can sense something doesn't mean you can react to it, otherwise all sensorsr and SM users would be untouchable. There's a major difference between how Sasuke used Ameno against Shin and how he used it against other, more powerful characters. This is what actually happened during the skimish: Pay special attention now Sasuke shot a fireball from a distance, giving Shin some time to do something. And even then, had he not had eyes at the back of his head or Shin Jr by his side, he would have gotten hit by the fireball. This is completely different than Sasuke teleporting himself behind his opponent, or teleporting his opponent into his strike. The only people who were able to react (or barely) to Sasuke's teleporting himself to them are god-tiers. Madara and Hashirama are not reacting to Sasuke's teleportaion strike. Oh, BTW, the Rinnegan doesn't predict movements During all the times Sasuke used Ameno, except Gaiden, he was facing against god-tiers. So saying that Ameno won't work on Madara and Hashirama because it didn't work against much more powerful characters doesn't make a lick of sense. That's terrible logic. You still haven't provided solid evidence as to how Madara and Hashirama would react to Sasuke's teleportation strike when SPSM Naruto was barely able to react. For some reason, you keep ignoring that. Killer 723 wrote: Lets not forget ability to swap himself with limbo / and even share vision with them. Let's not forget that Madara can only use Limbo for a limited time and that there's no evidence that he has shared vision with his Limbo clones
 * Shin jumped down from the roof of a building throwing multiple scapels
 * Sasuke jumped up towards Shin while blocking the scapels with his sword
 * Shin then got closer to Sasuke, grabbed his sword and marked it
 * Shin Jr then jumped towards Sasuke with his special kunai
 * Sasuke used Amenojikara to switch places with the incoming Shin Jr, prepared a fireball and shot it at the the father and son
 * Thanks to the eyes on the back of his head, Shin saw the gigantic fireball coming his away and use his MS ability to swing Shin jr to the fireball and shield himself from the blast