User talk:Seelentau

Nintendo 3ds question
Can the device be used while the battery is being charged or does one have to wait until the recharge is complete before the device is ready to be used again? Thanks.--Elve Talk Page 20:07, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Right, it was a stupid question, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for clarification.--Elve Talk Page 20:57, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

The Last movie
Where was it stated that Naruto 7: The Last is truly the last Naruto movie ever?-- JOA20 16:23, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not going to play Captain Obvious, but wasn't it "the first Naruto movie in two years will be entitled The Last!"--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 16:45, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

PM on chat ?
Hey Tau, would like to talk about something on the chat, I'll be on there for as long as possible. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:07, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi "quelling" Enton...
I actually brought this up before, in the topic you started concerning Blaze Release's debut. I was going to change something on Amaterasu's article and was reminded of the point about Itachi extinguishing the black flames. At least two scanslations back then worded Zetsu's commentary in a way that implied that Itachi did in fact stop the flames from consuming the rest of Sasuke's body, with the intention of preserving Sasuke's eyes... While others I've asked well after have made it seem as though he simply stopped casting Amaterasu, and was proceeding retrieve Sasuke's eyes. Of course, this was all before we were all made aware that Itachi had no actual desire to take Sasuke's eyes, and before Sasuke made such a big deal out of extinguishing Enton upon discovering the dōryoku of his right eye.

What do you think is actually the case? I would like to omit that part of the article since I've been thinking for the longest that there's no definitive evidence of Itachi being capable of exerting that kind of control over Enton—that Kagutsuchi is the only means of doing so. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 17:06, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 18:59, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Time Naruto airs in Japan
Do you know the exact time Naruto airs in Japan? I can get the dates no problem but I need to know the time. Many thanks in advance.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 17:01, October 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also what date is chapter 697 supposed to released? I remember you saying that these chapters we get are supposed to be released the following Monday, so actually 10/27. Is that correct?--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 17:04, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

raws for latest chapters
Hasn't there been anything that you thought needed a clarification lately in comparison to MP and MS's translations?--Elve Talk Page 19:28, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Nothing in particular. Generally it worries me that each time MP releases a chapter, people are too hasty to take their word about the translation and are adding it to the articles. Then when MS releases their translation and it differs considerably, MP's statements are kept anyway, even though they may be wrong, or even both of them may be wrong about things. I don't think things get viz/raw check'd enough.--Elve Talk Page 11:25, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ha! Told you ^_ And enjoy your time, sorry for bothering.--Elve Talk Page 20:30, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks--Elve Talk Page 18:03, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * What was it with Kokuo and his forest? Just an ordinary forest or a specific one?
 * What does Hagoromo say in chapter 693 about mother when lecturing Kakashi about love? (when Naruto and Sasuke jump on statues)
 * Sasuke's words about Sharingan, Rinnegan, reincarnation, immortality whatever
 * Kurama about Sasuke's level and what he did with the chakras
 * Can Kurama absorb natural energy?
 * About Rinnegan of Uchiha Clan latest chapter, in case the raw is out


 * K
 * No idea, they don't have more than 2 chapters uploaded at a time, so it's lost. Ask your translation buddy over at narutoforums please :P
 * That wouldn't make sense contextually, since Naruto asks Sasuke there how does he plan to maintain peace after he dies.
 * Right, so Hagoromo split Kaguya's chakra into chakras for the TB and Sasuke has merged them back into one. Not sure if that counts as COAT tho, since nothing was created there.
 * So Kurama's a Sage?
 * Thanks in advance--Elve Talk Page 18:52, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I thought you would help make it clearer :P Well, Kaguya is immortal and she had the "Sharrinegan" so maybe that makes one immortal? : O
 * I see, so he just has good chakra control or so.
 * Let me rephrase it, can Kurama use Senjutsu? Also I thought I had said we have a definition. Chapter 410 there's a diagram with the 3 energies and "Sage" underneath, so basically Senjutsu user = Sage.--Elve Talk Page 19:07, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Nah, the other 3 are in his Sharingan :P There haven't been more than 9 tomoe total at a given time, excluding drawing errors.
 * ^_
 * Well, that's your interpretation though. And the Sage is a legit term used in the manga unlike pseudo-jinchuuriki and tailed beast skill. Fukasaku stated that eye pigment is a mark of a true sage, that being one who perfectly balances all 3 energies for senjutsu chakra, so from that can be deduced that an imperfect sage like Jiraiya didn't have perfect balance, but very close (since he still could mold senjutsu chakra) and from that can be deduced that the term "sage" means a user of senjutsu chakra.--Elve Talk Page 19:55, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

The true sage pigment statement should be exactly when pigment appears around Naruto's eyes, bird lands off on his shoulder and he falls down from the rock. For the Rinnegan, no idea, but 9 seems to be the thing. Kaguya is immortal and Madara stated himself to be immortal too.--Elve Talk Page 21:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

So Jiraiya wasn't a Sage?--Elve Talk Page 21:45, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

He didn't have the pigment, did he? Unless I need glasses asap.--Elve Talk Page 21:57, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I thought that was blood?--Elve Talk Page 22:11, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

You mean this? isn't it just the blood spread? Looks quite different from Naruto and Minato's--Elve Talk Page 22:32, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

That's seriously a good catch. All praise lord Seelentau. Although the way we have things worded around here make it sounds like if only Minato and Naruto had the pigment or something--Elve Talk Page 22:47, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

So Rinnegan is Uchiha Clan's doujutsu? 0_o--Elve Talk Page 14:39, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion
Only after you're done with your current conversation, I suggest you archive your page. It's getting long IMO. :) • WindStar7125     22:00, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Chōmei's Bug Powder?
Since Fū used Bug powder, how about bug powder? Justin Holland (talk) 00:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Team
Welcome to the team.I would offer you cookies, but TU3 already ate them ^_^; ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

If my eyes don't deceive me, you're a sysop now... Well congratulations!!!!!Eric Burrell (talk) 01:59, October 26, 2014 (UTC)Eric Burrell

Chat
Hi Tau, I'll be on the chatbox all day, as I'd like to ask something when you get the chance. --Sajuuk Talk Page 08:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Get on chat nao ;) --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:31, October 28, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations
Senpai, congratulations for the promotion. You deserve it indeed. This news made my day, and welcome to the new power with more responsibilities. ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 10:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yah, grats. Hopefully it doesn't mean more ego and more slacking :P--Elve Talk Page 11:16, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's great for the wiki you've become a sysop. Inherit the will of ShounenSuki! • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 12:55, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats Tau! :) ~ IndxcvNovelist →talk • contribs • watty← 15:32, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, Seel-san~! :D-- Ninja Sheik  19:49, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations.— Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

technically
Doesn't chakra mode count as "version 1" ?--Elve Talk Page 11:39, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Information verification
Regarding Tobiram's use of Madara's corpse in chapter 681 – I know you answered someone's question about this (presumably) but they did not sign their post so I don't know where to look to find that response. Could you confirm what they say about him - if anything at all.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 00:59, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wait... I saw you put my name on Cerez's page... what did I ask again?


 * Edit: Nvm, found it. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 01:40, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Dōmo. The sun question section threw me off I guess.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 01:45, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto 697 Raw colored
Right here. :P • WindStar7125     11:22, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Elements Image
tau...buddy...why did you put ? for all of them :D?

I just meant the blaze...the others were fine... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 20:12, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, they weren't. No offense, but that's biased of you. Blaze was no more right or wrong than the others, all of them were unconfirmed--Elve Talk Page 20:16, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

But anyway :P maybe we should be even more anal about it, since Wind+Fire=Scorch too is "unconfirmed"--Elve Talk Page 20:20, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not, Minato confirmed it. On the other hand, looking at the next databook, I don't think the image change was that necessary now. It'll be changed in a month again, anyway. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:23, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Image
Sorry about reverting your edit. For some reason it appears an error when you changed it to .png ''   Dream Big! and "Find your passion and run with it; anything is possible!" '' 20:15, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Shows for me, make a null-edit--Elve Talk Page 20:18, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

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I don't know what to say about this. But the preview pages for DB4 came out and Akamaru is only 1 year older from Databook 3, he is 8 born July 7th. He was 7 born July 7th in DB3 so what does this mean for the timeline? or am I missing anything here? my minds fuzzy.. also it was confirmed the Hagoromo clan came to earth from another planet or dimension 1000 years ago. It should be added to the timeline boss. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Alright cool, I just got up so I'm not fully awake. Did you translate the pages they gave us as previews already?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:48, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

OMG in the words of a certain somebody I AM SO EXCITE ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:59, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I see that Obito and Danzo are listed as Izanagi users, but what about Madara? He too did use it--Elve Talk Page 15:11, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * NO HE OBVIOUSLY DIDNT THE DATABOOK IS TRUE AND THE MANGA IS RETCONNED!!!11
 * Na, jk. No idea why he isn't listed. Maybe he used Super-Izanagi. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:18, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

He used Transcription Seal: Izanagi, I have a feeling it will be classified as a different technique than Izanagi and that is why he isn't labeled as a user.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 15:24, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

human origins
It says they were given form, doesn't it?--Elve Talk Page 18:10, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I see, so humans were created but not necessarily by them. But it doesn't mean Ootsutsuki didn't make them, it's just not confirmed yet, right?--Elve Talk Page 18:17, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

You haven't got the whole text at your disposal, though ;)--Elve Talk Page 18:23, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Databook info
Senpai, I think it's better to create a sub-page in your name like User:Seelentau/Fourth Databook Translations to preserve your talkpage space and keep updating the page when the info will come out frequently. Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:20, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I already know that, but what I meant here is to put the sub-section of "Databook 4 stuff" in your talkpage into a new page which holds your name there just like what ShonenSuki-sensei did in the previous databooks. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:33, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Did this confirm or deny the stats? Basically, can you translate what the numbers three (3), four (4), and five (5) boxes on the first page that tells you how to read the character files say? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:11, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay- thanks for everything you've done up until now! :) Here is just a quick question I've always wondered- how long does it take you to translate all this stuff, and is it difficult? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

ORAS
talk about a faithful recreation :P--Elve Talk Page 21:48, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Colored
Unfortunately, I haven't. Usually the colored version of the chapters come out late Sunday night or early Monday morning. Sorry. :/ • WindStar7125     04:07, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Saturday morning? Well, we got lucky, didn't we? :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Considering that Sasuke absorbed the tailed beasts using Susanoo as a vessel, and that Kurama noted it was much like the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path when it uses its chains to absorb the tailed beasts, is it plausible to say that Sasuke used the Outer Path to absorb the chakra of the tailed beasts into his Susanoo like the Gedo Mazo? He obviously did use the Rinnegan to absorb the chakras, correct? • WindStar7125     04:20, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Why so quiet these days?
Personal problems have diminished my motivation to do many things. Don't worry, I've only added Yin Release to Nara shadow techniques, and Yang Release to Akimichi size changing ninjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:02, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * The translations I've seen of the Yin-Yang Release parts seem to mention only size-changing as a product of Yang Release. Super Open Hand Slap, Human Bullet Tank and other techniques, while performed when they're enlarged, are taijutsu, so I'm not sure if that applies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:28, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Rinne Sharingan
I suggest you create the article for this doujutsu rather than create a link to a page that doesn't exist in her article. :P Or I can do it myself. Should I? • WindStar7125     17:37, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will. :) Also, can you give me the Kanji for this please? And the literal name? And the page number from the databook? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 17:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Removed all Rinne Sharingan info in the Rinnegan article to the newly created Rinne Sharingan article. Not a finished product just yet, but it's a start. :) • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:10, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Tau, since you are a sysop, can you add the Ten-Tails and Madara as users of the Rinne Sharingan on its article?
 * Edit: Can you also add Amenominaka and Infinite Tsukuyomi to a jutsu section of the article? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:32, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. So that wasn't you adding it to the articles... also, the two jutsus I just asked to be added must be removed from the Rinnegan article. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:38, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Come in the chat so we can sort the KM thing out. Sajuuk has some things to say. • WindStar7125     20:18, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Tailed Beasts
Tau, I have a series of questions to ask:

Do you believe that Minato having Yin-Kurama meant that he had Yin Release? • WindStar7125     22:03, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So that would mean Naruto had Yang Release because of Yang Kurama, correct? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:06, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So if someone had the original Kurama sealed within them, they would have Yin and Yang Release? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:11, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Maybe Yin Release and Yang Release..." Oh, I didn't say Yin-Yang, I said Yin and Yang. Inton and Yoton. Combined with what you said here in this comment, and the fact that Yin Kurama can give Yin release, and Yang Kurama can give Yang Release, and having the original Kurama can give both, does that mean that all tailed beasts have Yin and Yang release (Not Yin-yang/Onmyoton, but Inton and Yoton seperately)? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:23, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So would it be valid to go to each tailed beast's article and add "Yin Release" and "Yang Release" to their infoboxes? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:34, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well you did say,  And yes, since Kurama's chakra body is made of Yin and Yang, I don't see why the others would be different. Never mind then. At one point, Minato was listed as a Yin Release user due to Yin Kurama (in fact, TU3, Fox-boss and Elve decided that in the chat), so that's why I asked. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:43, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Plain wrong? Oh OK. Thanks. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:54, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

wow..
So it covers to chapter 691 making Naruto still 16.. hmm.. Kishi really is a damn troll. I guess that means the preview info box may be his real box, meaning he didn't change from db3 really.. so that means he did indeed start shippuden shorter than 166cm and that he is still 166cm at current time... it should be like 145.3>147.5>??>166cm.. that just doesn't sound right.. I hope the preview info box for him is wrong and does indeed give him new info ItachiWasAHero (talk) 02:52, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

TSB = Kekkei Mōra?
Hijacking this, cause too lazy to make a new section. Some people were adding TSB into characters' infoboxes with reasoning that it's a Kekkei Mora. TSB is a technique using an unnamed kekkei mora rather than itself being one, right? You may reply here--Elve Talk Page 18:13, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kekkei Genkai "Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Sharingan"
 * Kekkei Mora "Rinne Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Rinne Sharingan"
 * Kekkei Genkai "Yoton" => Element "Yoton"
 * Kekkei Mora "TSB" => Element (?) "TSB" • Seelentau 愛 議 18:16, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. So the "?" will go to the infoboxes, assuming we find out what it's called of course.--Elve Talk Page 18:25, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well yes, the TSB is a technique that uses an unnamed elemental composition. We'll see what it's named, maybe... well, probably we'll not. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:27, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading "A huge TSB... one that has all chakra natures and all bloodline limits." "All chakra natures and bloodline limits" = "Kekkei Mōra," correct? Basically BZ was saying "A huge TSB... one that has a Kekkei Mōra" and not "is a Kekkei Mōra," correct? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:56, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * No. No idea were I posted the correct translation, though. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:01, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Basically what I'm saying is the TSB is not a Kekkei Mōra, but has an unspecified Kekkei Mōra. • WindStar7125     19:20, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * It is a Kekkei Mora in the same way Yoton is a Kekkei Genkai. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:23, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * The TSB is a KM? I don't know what to think anymore. I hear from Elve that it has an unnamed KM, then I hear from you that it is a KM. I dunno anymore. •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:29, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because everyone's forgetting that Kekkei Genkai (and most likely Kekkei Mora) describe two things: the genetical mutation and the result of that.
 * Kekkei Genkai "Hyoton" => Chakra nature "Hyoton" => Hyoton: Whatever no Jutsu
 * Kekkei Mora "???" => Chakra nature "???" => Truth-Seeking Ball
 * and
 * Kekkei Genkai "Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Sharingan" => Izanagi (or whatever)
 * Kekkei Mora "???" => Dojutsu "Rinne Sharingan" => Kaguya's Jutsu (whatever the name)
 * Okay? • Seelentau 愛 議 19:34, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Naruto's TSB can use Wind, Lightning, Earth, Water, Fire, Yin-Yang, correct? So why isn't his regarded as a KM? Where did the databook state that Naruto's TSB isn't a KM? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:44, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wrong. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:47, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

So what elements can Naruto's use? What do you think? • WindStar7125     19:50, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wind obviously. Also Naruto doesn't have kekkei mora because he neither has genes for it nor is he TT jinch--Elve Talk Page 19:51, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm asking what Tau thinks, Elveonora. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:54, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I just know that he hates repeating himself, so I saved him the effort--Elve Talk Page 19:56, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I won't act as if I knew how the Gudodama or Kekkei Mora work. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:57, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither do I, but correct me if I'm wrong, 4th databook lists only Wind as Naruto's natures and omits him as Kekkei Mora user. If so, then there's nothing to argue about--Elve Talk Page 20:02, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Because I'm pretty sure this is the vault of everyone who has posted in this section, is there a reason why Truth-Seeking Balls don't appear in anyone's Infobox? I know how this is a circle jerk issue on this wikia, but I consider this something of a problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:09, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because I removed them? Truth Seeking Ball is a technique of an unnamed kekkei mora, not the kekkei mora itself--Elve Talk Page 20:12, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * According to Tau, the TSB is a KM. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:14, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, same way Gentle Fist is. Read above again what he wrote, properly.--Elve Talk Page 20:16, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * He said the KM like the KG, describes two things: the genetic mutation and the result. The TSB is the result, and the genetic mutation is unknown. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:18, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Truth Seeking Ball is a technique of the result. The result is "x release" that is yet to be named. TSB is to it what Lava Shuriken to Lava Release.--Elve Talk Page 20:22, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

I remember Tau saying "It is a Kekkei Mora in the same way Yoton is a Kekkei Genkai." after I asked about the TSB. • WindStar7125     20:26, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * The answer is at the very top of the topic. Anyway, lets take this elsewhere, poor Seel with us spamming his talkpage like this.--Elve Talk Page 20:28, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Glad to see none of you actually answered my question. Awesome.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:32, November 2, 2014 (UTC)