Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-34115-20150626061048/@comment-17623-20150626115013

SuperSajuuk wrote: @TU3: Well we all know you haven't liked me for years, so I'm not surprised you think I should have my rights removed. I show quite a lot of respect to people. I don't think you are taking this seriously enough, based on the weird humour you use from time to time. You forget that you are part of Wikia and Wikia does have the right to intervene and supercede any local decisions, should they choose to do so (usually in the cases of extreme tou violations). So don't just think that because Wikia doesn't intervene a lot, that they do not do so.

It didn't need to be stated as a rule, because this is a Naruto Wiki. The forums are for only "naruto" discussions, not just discussions that are about something other than Naruto or the wiki. There was no reason for the topic to stick around because it didn't really have much of a place on the wiki in the first place. It's called common sense. Of course it shouldn't come as a surprise, I've never made it a secret. But you'll also note I stated that I wouldn't remove your rights simply because I don't like you. I don't much like Elvenora either but here he is.

And I take the fate of this wiki very seriously. Far more than I should I've been here for eight bloody years. I've gone to Wikia a few times myself, and each time the response was the same "We let the Wikia in question handle itself."

I'm not going to get into a discussion with semantics with you, and you did respond to it. Does not change the fact that it is a problem which you yourself help start in a series of missteps.


 * SuperSajuuk appeals for Forums.
 * Forums get added.
 * Sysops attempt to make some rules for the forums to at the very least keep them under control.
 * You disagree with these rules, stating that it would stifle Conversation and push people away from the Wiki, thus you make your own rule set.
 * Sysops in return do not put much stock to the forums as a result
 * Problems arise (which would not have been the case had the sysops's rules been in effect earlier), and the sysops are called out for not dealing with them.
 * The very rules the sysops came up with are basically brought in anyway
 * Sysops still do not put much stock in the forums because of the aforementioned missteps
 * Forum Operators/Moderators come into play. And now the Sysops have no right to moderate the forums.

Which feeds back into previous comments that, you were upset when they weren't helping, but now are upset when they do try to help, but call them out when they continue to NOT help.