Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150518115443/@comment-3965545-20150518192431

Orochimaru made it very clear Itachi is stronger than him(In the Naruto world admitting someone is stronger than you means you can't beat them) Itachi was said to(in his sickly state mind you..) by kisame to be able to beat Jiraiya even after Itachi told him it would be a tie at best. Kisame wasn't buying into Itachi's tie BS. But just because Itachi could at least tie with Jiraiya, but Oro said he can be beaten by Itachi. Does not mean that Jiraiya can beat Orochimaru. Every fighter is different and this is not DBZ.. therefore going by the stated facts and previous battles they had.. Orochimaru would barely win against Jiraiya since he now has both of his arms back and wood release. Jiraiya with his sage mode will help him alot, but Orochimaru can dispel/absorb senjutsu so it won't help against him. I feel in the end Orochimaru knows, and can do TOO much.. Jiraiya can't beat him.