Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26773508-20160323044408

Ok so we've had lots of problems because of this particular item in various VS threads and also in some other threads, thanks to the Yata Mirror's ambiguous definition and lack of proper feats. Here, I'd like your opinions to form a sort of unofficial guideline on how the Yata Mirror can and cannot be used in VS debates. In other words, I intend this thread to act as a discussion to come into an informal consensus about the limits of the Yata Mirror.

1) Nature Transformation:

We all know that Yata Mirror changes its elemental nature to negate elemental ninjutsus. This is quite clear and unambiguous. However, Ninja of War has raised an interesting issue, namely, can the Yata Mirror block multi-natured attacks simultaneously? ([])

To make the issue clearer, I'll borrow Ninja of War's own imagined scenario, and a bit more: Imagine that Edo Hiruzen is using his 5-elemental attack as he did against Guruguru Tobi's Wooden Statue. Not only that, joining him are Gaara with his sand attacks; Darui with his Storm Release: Laser Circus; Haku with his Ice Release; and Hashirama with his Wood Release.

All these attacks land at the Yata Mirror at the same time. Can the Yata Mirror block these attacks? Can it apply all the five elements simultaneously to counter this attack? The description seems to suggest YES, although Ninja of War disagrees, as he has issues with the semantics.

But if the answer actually is YES, then there's a rather problematic scenario here; i.e. the Yata Mirror then becomes virtually indistinguishable from the Truth Seeking Balls Juubito, Juubidara, SPSM Naruto, Hagoromo and the Rabbit Bitch used. Are we really supposed to believe this? Or is it plausible? Can an Edo Tensei zombie attacking Itachi's Susanoo headlong be effectively killed by the Yata Mirror, as the TSBs can? Can the Yata Mirror block the attack of a TSB? Or will a TSB obliterate the Mirror?

These are some of the questions to think about with respect to the elemental nature of the Yata Mirror.

2) Is the Yata Mirror omnidirectional?

Some people have suggested that since the Yata Mirror can change any of its properties to counteract an attack, then it is entirely reasonable for the Yata Mirror to turn into a Yata Sphere, i.e. they suggest that the Yata Mirror can change its shape to encompass the entirety of Itachi's Susanoo. This seems too far-fetched for me. Some people argue that the Yata Mirror has actually changed size in the manga to block attacks. I remain unconvinced, but since a lot of people agree that the Yata Mirror did indeed change its size, so I'll assume that they're right.

But does this imply that the Yata Mirror can change its shape to give Itachi a 360 degree protection?

3) Physical Attacks, Shape Manipulation and Transference of Kinetic Energy:

The description of the Yata Mirror also says that the Mirror can deflect any physical attack. We saw a small feat of the Mirror deflecting Sasuke's sword and paper bombs or kunai or whatever he threw. But these are rather unimpressive feats. What I want to know is whether the Yata Mirror can change its physical characteristics and dimensions to withstand the following monstrous physical attacks:

(a) Madara's Tengai Shinsei:

So the Yata Mirror can withstand any physical attack, or so the description says. But suppose that Rinnegan Madara unleashes the Tengai Shinsei onto Itachi. Can the Yata Mirror handle the enormous force unleashed by the massive meteors? Can the Yata Mirror change its size to completely encompass the meteors' diameters? It seems highly unlikely and fantastical. What are your opinions on it?

(b) EMS Madara's Perfect Susanoo Sword Swings:

Suppose EMS Madara and MS Itachi are fighting. EMS Madara uses his Perfect Susanoo. Itachi brandishes his Susanoo with the Yata Mirror. EMS Madara swings his PS Chakra Sword towards Itachi's Susanoo. The Yata Mirror tries to block the attack. Since the PS Sword is chakra, but its attack more "physical", the Yata Mirror's definition says that it will block the attack. I too think it will.

But what is not clear is that even if the Yata Mirror blocks Madara's PS Sword Swing, will the Yata Mirror prevent Itachi and his Susanoo being thrown around like a ragdoll? In other words, can Yata Mirror prevent the transference of massive amounts of Kinetic Energy from the attacker to Itachi's Susanoo? If yes, then Itachi avoids being thrown like a ragdoll. If no, then the shield prevents Itachi from being cut into half, but still gets thrown around like a small toy.

What are your opinions on this particular scenario?

(c) Shinra Tensei:

The Shinra Tensei case is also another example of the transference of Kinetic Energy. Imagine Nagato unleashes a Shinra Tensei powerful enough to destroy Konoha with Itachi being the sole focus of the attack. Will the Yata Mirror be able to block such an attack? If so, can it prevent Itachi and his Susanoo from being pushed back, even if a little? The Yata Mirror should block most of the force from Shinra Tensei. But it is hard to believe that it will able to block an attack that destroyed Konoha without being pushed back itself. What are your thoughts on this?

(d) Chibaku Tensei:

If the Yata Mirror can deflect any ninjutsu, or physical or spiritual attack, then it should be able to counteract Chibaku Tensei's intense gravitational force, right? After all, gravity is PHYSICAL. So imagine Nagato using Chibaku Tensei on Itachi, without NTCM Naruto and Killer Bee to help him. Will the Yata Mirror produce anti-gravitational wave to counteract the gravitational pull of the Chibaku Tensei? It sounds ridiculous, if you ask me. But the definition of the Yata Mirror implies that it deflects all attacks. Surely, scenarios such as this one suggest the Yata Mirror has limits.

4) Spiritual Attacks:

What does a spiritual attack mean? I have no idea, so I'd be grateful if someone enlightened me about that. One thin that could be "spiritual attack" seems to be Dan Kato's ghost technique or whatever it's called, where his spirit leaves his body to possess the enemy's body. Maybe the Yamanaka clan's Mind Transfer Jutsu is also spiritual? A

Anyway, can Yata Mirror prevent Dan from possessing Itachi? We saw Edo Dan go quite a long way from one battlefield to another to give his chakra to Tsunade. Can the Yata Mirror prevent such things happening to Itachi?

5) Chakra Consumption:

Does the Yata Mirror consume Itachi's chakra like the Susanoo does? Or does its classification as an "Ethereal" Weapon exempt Itachi from losing his chakra?

TOO LONG; DIDN'T READ VERSION:

1) Is the Yata Mirror like Truth Seeking Balls, in that they can nullify all ninjutsu and different elemental attacks falling on it, simultaneously> Yes No

2) Is the Yata Mirror omnidirectional i.e. can YM give Itachi 360 degree protection? Yes No

3.1) Can the Yata Mirror change its shape and size to block Rinnegan Madara's Tengai Shinsei? Yes No

3.2) Can the Yata Mirror withstand monstrous physical attacks such as a slash of EMS Madara's Perfect Susanoo's Sword; or a jutsu like Shinra Tensei; while simultaneously preventing Itachi from being tossed around like a small toy? Yes No

3.3) Can the Yata Mirror produce anti-gravitational forces against attacks such as Chibaku Tensei? Yes No

4) Can the Yata Mirror prevent Dan Kato (Tsunade's Boy Toy) from possessing Itachi's body? After all, the Yata Mirror also blocks "spiritual" attacks. What do you think? Yes No

5) Do you think the Yata Mirror consumes a considerable amount of Itachi's chakra? Yes No  