Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-26107879-20180914053853

@combat

I'm glad you brought up the throw Minato did on Obito. If we look at it it is pictured without movement lines except at the loop end in 2/3 of the panels. Therefore it could be the same case for the fight with Ay. I'm also glad you brought up the speed velocity and thrown pressure point. Why in that case is it evident but not against Ay? We know his hand speed was greater than Ay's movement. We know he threw it some way. So why is it, that kunai does not get that velocity of that hand speed movement?

As for the rest of your point. You seem to think I'm saying Obito's hand speed = Minato's. No. His hand speed would not have worked against Minato, because Minato had faster Hand speed and reaction.

So Minato did not slow. Therefore, that instance is a feat. Sure he may have been surprised and sure he might have kamui'ed. But Kamui doesn't give Obito the ability to turn his wrist, wrap his fingers around the wrist, and close before Minato can pass his hand over. Minato did not slow as you said. Obito therefore was fast enough to catch his hand. Notice i said fast enough. Not that he was faster. Doesn't matter if he couldn't react (if Obito's hand speed was slower than Ay's movement there would be no reason why Minato couldn't react btw since he could react to Ay's point blank punch), Obito still needs the speed to move beyond an inch worth of movement.

Ay on the other hand. Couldn't press an inch forward. Enough said.