Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26636534-20160104155041

Kratos123456 wrote: Doubt couldn't itachi counter jiraya genjutsu,just like he did against kurenai?in part 1 orochimaru himself said that itachi was stronger than him,so I don't know how only jiraya could defeat him. Itachi couldn't counter Tayuya's chains of fantasia without Sasuke's help, and since toad chant is much stronger than that, it stands to reason that Itachi is helpless if he is caught in the toad genjutsu GreatestSin wrote: ^this is what i meant, even if it is incredible powerful, im also still concerned about the range, i doubt that the genjutsu will be as effective as with pain if it is used from 15 meters away(plus it mostlikely would require even more chakra), and for the exhausted-thing: it still means that they cant spam the jutsu be it because of having to little chakra or because their bodys cant keep up ^_^ The speed of sound is 343 meters per second, that means in 1 second, the range of exposure is 343 meters for a sound based jutsu, which in this case is a genjutsu. Now I know this is Naruto and not the real world but, since there is gravity and other physics concepts present, the speed of sound in air is assumed to also be this in Naruto.

Therefore, if the genjutsu is completed there is no escape for Itachi. The toads were not exhausted after the genjutsu, but I do agree that they will not be able to spam this genjutsu. Since Itachi will most likely be in his Susanoo when this genjutsu is cast and his Susanoo is not as mobile as he is plus he is susceptible to genjutsu in his Susanoo it's Jiraiya's win, no need to spam.