Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180308084155

LegionZero wrote: @Nashikaine: If you paid a bit of attention you would see i wasnt replying to you in the first part of the post.

I know. i just replied so that it would bring to your notice and that of others that just keep the Sasuke stuff out.

LegionZero wrote: You missed my point about the speed of KCM1 against 3rdRai. My point being that he doesnt need KCM1 speeds to handle 3rdRai because he isnt as fast as 4thRai. Not even close. What process of thought leads you to believe that Gai can't reach Sage Mode speeds?

the 3rd reacted to the Rasenshuriken assault in the begning and it was KCM1 back then. he moved and reacted really fast that even KCM1 Naruto prasied him for his speeds.

LegionZero wrote:

Hirudora destroyed Susanoo.there are panels that show where the explosion happened and there is nothing but dust. And dont act like Edo Tensei wouldnt regen Madara by the time we did see him again. The explosion is as big as turtle island.

there is a panel for a explosion, but nothing about doing in Madara.

and the explosion is nowhere near big as turtle island... the island is freaking huge. dont make up stuff.

LegionZero wrote: True reaction is how someone deals with a surprise or something unexpected. Because Naruto used prep time, planning, and timing does not mean he has good reaction time or reflexes. Frog Kata is not strong enough to replace the Rasengan.

you are so not going to agree that he reacted at that impossible situation and point blank range and followed by an attack.

you will just go on about he had prepared for it and planned it.

Frog Kata is an SM skill. it is powerful as hack. on other note, Gai is not durable in any sorts and with Gate mode his body deteoriates on itself, the damage by a single Frog Kata with all combined will be huge.

LegionZero wrote: As for Guy's speed Gaara claimed him to move at inhuman speeds in 7th Gate.

Gaara claims so. we all agreed. but nowhere has it mentioned that he is the fastest shinobi, and neither is it mentioned of him being as fast as the Raikage, who are continuously praised by many character for their speed.

inhuman movements is so not being the fastest shinobi.

LegionZero wrote: Also lifting strength =/= striking strength so Naruto tossing the rhino summon has little to do with how hard he punches.

we were talking about strenght feat. and it is not just about lifting the 100 or so meters rhino. SM Naruto stopped it in dead track. a behemoth of a rhino, who in real life are infamous for their charge that can topple heavy vehicles.

SM Naruto has freakish strenght.

he somehow can lift that beast way up in the air using his strenght but cant use it to strike someone. jeez.

LegionZero wrote: 6th Gate Guy is strong enough to one-shot 30% Kisame. This same guy was also strong enough to knock Saiken down. The only other time we seen someone do something comparable to this was when 1 Rinnegan Sage Mode Madara used Limbo. Sage Mode Naruto can't take a hit from that kind of strength.

Yeah. 6 gate Gai defeated 30% fake Kisame, but there wasnt even a contest there. Gai had to end it quick to save his students and so channeled his strongest attack, which he could use and still continue on unlike Hirudora, and ended Kisame. he probably could have finished it with 5Gate too.

it was going in transition. we had seen 5Gate so they showed 6Gates

he did nothing to Saiken. he just blew of the acid mist, which by the way is mist and his punches are air pressure. simple logic.

LegionZero wrote: 7th Gate Guy one-shot full power Kisame while holding back. At minimum 7th Gate Guy is just above 3 times stronger than 6th Gate. SM Naruto isnt much of a match for that.

where the hell does it come from that Gai was holding back?

Gai didnt have to take Kisame hostage. he had to stop him at all costs from sending the info, even if it means to kill him. it was a bonus that Kisame survived.

Gai used his strongest attack that caused a huge explosion, which on land would have left a crate or some 50 or so meters. there was no holding back here.

and Kisame was at full power? dont joke. or did you forget the fused Kisame against KillerB and that massive water dome he created. Kisame was far from full power.

Killer723 wrote: @Nashikeine

Also try not to forget why Kishimoto had to keep blue beast on mission during pain assault.

and what would it achieve? he wasnt there. so wasnt Yamato. so wasnt Anko. end of the story.

or go create a versus for that one