Talk:Senju Clan

Mokuton
Wasn't the mokuton something unique to hashirama senju? I don't think it's something that in a couple generations someone is born with it like the Genjutsu kekkei genkai in the filler episodes. 201.17.77.159 20:19, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Family Ties to the Uchiha
After reading the latest chapter, I find it fitting that every member of the Senju and Uchiha clan have each other as relatives, listed as (distant relatives). Any takers? 75.74.164.113 (talk) 19:53, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * We only lists close relatives with clear relationships. Jacce | Talk 19:54, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * For example, Madara isn't listed under Sasuke's family in the infobox...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 19:56, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright. Sorry, I've seen things like this work different in other wikis. My mistake. 75.74.164.113 (talk) 19:58, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the fact that there could be millennia between the modern Senju and Uchiha clans and the ancient Sage of the Six Paths and his sons. If you'd consider them relatives, you should consider every human being on Earth as related to each other. --ShounenSuki (talk 20:41, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto
Shouldn't we give him the Senju symbol?I already know he is'nt directly related to them but he did have the first hokage's necklace. Another thing,Madara did say the first lived on in Naruto.24.161.123.148 (talk) 18:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * He is not a member or a decedent of the Senju as far as we know at this point, so no symbol. And what Madara meant was that Harashima's will and thought lived in Naruto. To make it simple: they had/has the same dreams and thoughts of the world. Jacce | Talk 18:54, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Kekkei genkai
Since Mokuton was specific to Senju Hashirama, I think it would be best to leave the Mokuton insignia out of the Senju clan page, but that's up to you guys. What I want to propose is that we make an icon and put it in this page, and that of every Senju clan member. The icon should be Rikudo Sennin's body or something like that, seeing as that is their kekkei genkai, passed down into Senju clan members ever since the older brother got it. Jules R. J. Blake (talk) 15:04, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * The Sage's "body" isn't a kekkei genkai, so it doesn't need an icon. Mokuton might have been unique to Hashirama, but it was strongly associated with the Senju clan. So much so, that the clan gained the epithet "of the forest". --ShounenSuki (talk 16:57, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Symbol
Is it interesting to note that the Senju clan symbol kind of looks the oracle bone version of the kanji for wood sideways? 24.45.20.86 (talk) 21:29, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that is a bit of a stretch, personally. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:25, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, it makes sense, considering that almost all clan symbols, including the Uchiha, have something to do with either thier names or thier abilities. *cough* Uchiha *cough*; and I do see the resemblence. Vik0z0z (talk) 02:08, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

controlling the the tailed beasts
is it just hashirama or any senju can control the tailed beasts or at least the kyuubi? --94.183.158.46 (talk) 19:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

and please add the Abilities and Trivia parts because uchiha clan page has it and I think this page should have it too. --94.183.158.46 (talk) 20:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Uchiha all have similar abilities. Wood Release is unique to Hashirama and all other Senju have their own specialties. An Abilities section wouldn't work well. ~SnapperTo 20:24, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

and what about the trivia part?(and also my question) --94.183.154.188 (talk) 09:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

..........anyone???

Creating new infobox
I just thought of this, should we have a template for the clans:


 * Name
 * Image
 * Kanji
 * Romanization
 * Status
 * Known Members:

And put if the character is deceased or not. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 12:27, March 28, 2010 (UTC)KimaruHamachi

Any comment or progress on this one? - 93.139.3.121 (talk) 16:33, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone give me a list of all the known Senju's?
--Inferuno Ryuu (talk) 20:55, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * There already is one at the very top of the article. ~SnapperTo 21:03, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Woah. Wonder how I never saw that? Anyway thanks.--Inferuno Ryuu (talk) 21:24, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Symbol
What chapter was it that originally revealed the Senju Clan symbol, the chapter also had many other symbols. I tried searching back, and looking for it but that was to no avail.--KingBarragan (talk) 15:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the chapters where Madara tells the story of the founding of Konoha to Sasuke, around chapter 400, give or take a few. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Chapter 398 page 16 to be exact. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 18:05, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

clan affiliation
I disagree with the Senju clan disapearance theory that seems to be strongly suggested in this article. We have to remember what is the definition of the term clan within the ninja word or even all mob-related types of affiliation. No blood relations is needed to be part of a clan,individuals formally ask for it and can be accepted or not.That is why famillies within a clan can possess different abilities that are passed down to thier descendants as it was certainly the case within the famillies forming the Senju clan. The Senju's name (Clan of 1000 Skills ) is a true representative of that fact and their main difference with the Ushiha clan might have been the fact that they were not alien to the idea of welcoming other people within their clan.Therefore I disagree with the idea that Sarutobi lineage might have not be part of the Senju clan : this lineage might have been within the clan since the beiginnig, as have been the Aburame or the Inuzuka as well(eventhough they might have joined after the creation of the village) So it is not because you don't see anybody with the physical traits that you attributes to Senjus( as for the Ushiha) or whatever,that it means the Senju clan is dead. --Yokoyoko (talk) 19:13, November 6, 2010 (UTC)yokoyoko
 * The most basic and fundamental definition of clan, both in English and Japanese, is a group of people tied together through blood. True clan members are either actual blood relatives, or believe they are. you cannot just ask to be part of a clan. it simply doesn't work that way.
 * Besides, even considering this extremely unlikely option, the Senju were never implied to be any different from family-based clans like the Uchiha. The only known Senju member who has no known family relation to the Shodai Hokage's family still has the Senju surname, implying she is still related by blood. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:24, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hashirama
so i remember people always calling him Harashima but the wiki now calls him Hashirama was they're a change in translation or something?

No, people just spelled his name wrong for a while before realizing they were wrong.Umishiru (talk) 13:03, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you.

Reason for Senju disappearance
We know that Uzumaki women were being married to Senju men and most likely Senju women to Uzumaki men to strengthen the good ties between their villagies. And since both are descended of Sage's younger son, to make their blood strong.

When Mito Uzumaki married to Hashirama, her name was most likely changed to Senju. With Uzushiogakure destroyed, there were no Uzumaki to marry Senju. Since there were no Uzumaki to breed with, Senju had to breed with people of "inferior" blood, so after years the Senju have become defunct since they married to other clans with their names changed and blood diluted.

With this knowledge in mind that Tsunade was born back then, her name should be Senju. --Elveonora (talk) 11:12, January 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was never said that other Senju married Uzumaki or vice versa. I don't even see where that is hinted at outside of Hashirama and Mito. It's either:
 * The family is extinct in the male line. So there was no one left with the name "Senju" to carry it on. So there could be people in the village that are Senju-related.
 * The name is not extinct any at all.
 * With that in mind the Senju parent Tsunade had could still be female meaning her name wouldn't be Senju. But since we don't know the village/clan's principles when it came onto marriage (whether or not the males or "lesser names" would take on the wife's name instead), none of this can be said with any certainty.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 11:22, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Just stating the possibility. --Elveonora (talk) 13:35, January 16, 2012 (UTC)