Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180927150340/@comment-34436445-20181023153900

Arturia Pendragon00000 wrote: You sure? I mean, Naruto still has other various powerful skills like Rasengan, Rasen-Shuriken, Sage / Hermit Mode, 1000 Clones, Summoning Technique and various other skills / Ninjutsu. Shouldn't all this automatically out on Mid-High Kage Level? And I think Naruto could still beat Gaara without Kurama or Six Paths in Boruto. I guess low kage level would be a bit of downplaying, maybe mid kage level should be appropriate as he can easily defeat low kage level guys like chojuro, kakashi but would lose to high kage level guys like Hashirama, minato etc.

Take out kurama and six path amps, he is left with shadow clones, rasengan and varients, sage mode and summonings. He doesn't know any other ninjutsu. High kage level guys aren't bothered by summonings. Sage mode has a limit, rasengan can be tanked or dodged. The 1000 summonings stuff, I mean the seal leaked a bit of kurama's chakra into Naruto since he was a baby, his chakra reserve are more then they should be also when has Naruto summoned clones more than 1000 without the kyuubi supplying him chakra.

Minato and tobirama can easily wait out Naruto's sage mode, hell minato can go into sage mode himself and use hirashin level 2. They can easily dodge or teleport Naruto's attacks back at him if they mark him or at least an area near him.

Just because Madara dodged a Edo tensei tobirama, doesn't mean Naruto could do the same. Madara is a excellent sensor in base which was amped by hashi cells and senjutsu. He also has excellent reaction time. More over he had the rinnegan meaning he could theoretically have sage chakra, which made him better. Obtio was repeatedly tagged by minato and tobirama, while he was faster than sage Naruto. Madara(sage mode) in terms of reaction and speed is on another level.