Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-36366948-20200810063456

I say that because they don't meet my *personal* qualifications. I never told you not to like them, I just gave my own reasons for why I don't see them as kage level. Therefore I'm not gatekeeping. I literally told you in my last post that I'm cool if you think that they're kage level lol. All of us have different views on what a kage should be.

Kakashi's mind is what makes him kage level. I get your point lol, I never denied it. I included Tobirama because I'm comparing the Chidori to the jutsu he created. Even if the Chidori and Shiden are similar to the Hell Stab, how does that help you? I said a kage should have a technique *not many others have*, I never said it should be something only they have.

Even if SPSM isn't Naruto's own jutsu, tell me anyone else who can access it currently. Sure Madara, Obito, Asura all could use it, but they're all dead now. Therefore he's unique.

You're completely misunderstanding most of what I'm saying. I never said Kage come out of the womb at Kage level, you are putting words in my mouth. All I said was that even if the power of their limited movesets increase, why couldn't other jonin do the same? This applies especially to Kurotsuchi. Also i never said Dust Release, you are putting words in my mouth again. What about the boulder lightening jutsu and it's counterpart (I forget the name)?

I'm using Shippuden feats because they don't have any individual feats in Boruto. The only important feat they have is that they restrained Kinshiki after they beat him with Sasuke's help. Chojuro beating Genin and Chunin is barely a feat, like I said. Even if he did beat them relatively easily, it should be expected of him. If it's such a big deal, then my point is proven. He sliced the Shinju Tree yes, but it was with an item he had (his sword) and not using his own justu. Which is why I said that if you take away his sword, he's unremarkable as hell. Look at other swordsmen in the Narutoverse: Sasuke fought Kaguya without a sword, Darui has black lightning and Storm Release, Kisame needed the 7th gate to beat *without Samehada*. All Chojuro has shown is normal water release jutsu. I don't think Chojuro is as powerful as Kisame even with his sword. Kisame is definitely not Kage level. Even if you say that he's very good compared to the rest of the mist swordsman, Land of Waves Kakashi beat Zabuza with relative ease, and he was shown to be the best wielder of his blade.

Now please tell me who would win, Nagato or Kinshiki. This argument isn't ending any time soon because we both have different beliefs on a kage level shinobi lol.