User talk:GokūBlack10/Logical Conclusions rule

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To see prior discussion on this matter, please see the related forum page. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 08:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Having read that forum thread, I'd have to agree with what Cerez said: this just opens the wikia up to even more random speculations because someone decided to draw a logical conclusion from an event to make it fact, causing this whole wiki to lose its credibility. I see no purpose in this policy as it only serves to increase speculation becoming fact. --Speysider Talk Page 10:00, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Same thoughts here.-- ~Ulti  Sup~  10:26, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with Cerez: the arguments about Tobi/Madara being Obito being a good example why we should wait for more concrete evidence to surface, since at the time Obito was listed as dead and Zetsu had demonstrated the ability to copy people, it wasn't logical that Obito had survived going off the info we had. TricksterKing (talk) 10:54, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Who made a rule about this? I thought we were trying to have a discussion, trying to enforce this by a policy is very much not the right way to go.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:08, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yup, I agree with the argument that drawing a logical conclusion is not right, however obvious the source of the conclusion may be. There maybe instances where Kishimoto leaves some things to the readers, in such cases, not every reader may end up at the same point but everyone will have their own opinions leading to chaos.. So, until and unless things are specified, I agree that drawing conclusions is not right. 11:09, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thats my only problem, because if one or two start adding logical matter, everyone will try to do the same, there are some "logical" things that were posted, like Orochimaru using Substitute Technique, if that was so logical to be posted, there's not much to say against adding logical matter, or we start adding only with evidence, and when logical matter appears we point it in the trivia section until we get evidence. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 12:24, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I would like to point out that with logical conclusions there is also the possibility of being completely stupid. For example, using the Orochimaru case, there are three possible techniques he could have used: Substitute Technique, Vanishing Facial Copy Technique and yes, even the Transformation Technique. Unlike say the recent Scorch Release, this one has no clear conclusion because based on what we've seen and what we know there are three possible outcomes. The argument here is the willing desire to be stupid and fight about it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 12:49, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l507/0nag4/meme-guy-staring-at-computer-screen-thinking.jpg Wow. This is one long discussion and we're all saying the same thing.. 13:26, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Elveonora doesn't seems to get it, assumptions should not be the way, and even more, when no one agrees with the Orochimaru's Substitute Technique thing, there are at least three techniques that fit in the description, but she insists because it was her/him logic assumption, and because it is so childish, took Mokuton from Orochimaru. 85.241.75.149 (talk) 14:50, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

No, there is no other technique that would fit the description, your brains don't get it. And yes, if we take away Substitute Technique which is obvious, so should go Mokuton--Elveonora (talk) 14:52, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Random user we don't change things like that, we reach an agreement first, stop causing trouble. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 14:57, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

It just should be fair. Like to you it's obvious that he can use Wood Release, to me it's obvious he used Substitute Technique. The difference is though, that in latter case he indeed used something. Figure that Orochimaru dies before he even gets the chance to actually use Mokuton? So "assumptions shouldn't be the way" ;D--Elveonora (talk) 14:59, June 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Clarification: If he did use Living Corpse Reincarnation, he does indeed have Wood Release. It's the reason why he wanted Sasuke's body so he could get the Sharingan remember. That being said, relevent--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 15:13, June 22, 2013 (UTC)