Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-26107879-20180908055208

@Combat

1) Changing your wrist's posture is just as fast as pressing your fist forward an inch. There's no reason to think Obito's feat isn't viable in hand speed when he was able to grab onto an already moving Minato slash and Ay at full speed couldn't connect when Minato had not moved yet.

2) You aren't getting it. Ay should have been able to smash Minato's nose in if he moved faster than Obito's hand speed. The reason being is Obito was able to move while Minato's hand moved. Ay was not able to move while Minato moved his hand to toss the Kunai.

3) Ay was definitely moving at full speed and was not stopping. The reason being is he looked directly at the Kunai. Why would he then decide to start to slow down? It doesn't make sense. Nor is there really evidence the kunai wasn't moving fast and he definitely didn't slow down to punch Minato. Again, it made it passed Ay before Ay could press his fist forward an inch. If you look at the panel after Ay touches Minato's nose, the kunai isn't near his arm that's being drove forward. The motion lines are still present showing he was moving forward at full speed. If I see a kunai and expect where he is going to teleport, I would just keep moving forward if the Kunai is slow. But the mere fact that the kunai fully passed him and he couldn't manage to even take a foot forward away, just shows the kunai was faster than he was. In fact, when he appears behind him, his motion lines are still going and his lightning is still being dragged behind him.

4) As for Bee. I can only give it to him for prediction. It's the only answer I have. He predicted it. It's possible he was going for a behind the back attack and changed it to saving Ay. What's clear is Minato's kunai passed Ay with ease and there's no reason Ay would slow down and let Minato strike him from behind. Let's also not forget that even if he's in momentum, he should still be able to change posture. If he can move his legs, he should be able to move his arms to grab the kunai.

5) What I know is this. Tobirama is the fastest of his time. Minato proved he is faster. As for Ay, he wasn't fast enough to dodge everything Madara had since he clearly lost with the rest of the Kage, therefore Madara is fast enough to block his hits (which he did physically) and fast enough to hit him.