Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190213044806/@comment-34277398-20190218123536

I think that Minato/Jiraiya take this. However, not because of Minato but because of Jiraiya. I’m probably going to piss off a lot of people but here goes: After Jiraiya’s defeat Nagato openly stated had they not had their secret Jiraiya would’ve defeated them. Also keep in mind after using his genjutsu on the one Pain he turned around an started walking away. But he was stabbed in the back because he was off guard. Then after that did he fight all 6 Pains and was that statement made. Also the fact the Itachi states he can’t defeat Jiraiya. If he could go as far as to put Kakashi in an infinite Tsukuyomi, almost try and kill Kurenai and try to kidnap Naruto. Itachi also commended Jiraiya’s skills when he did a reverse summoning almost subduing them. And back to the Nagato point, it took B, KCM and Itachi to defeat Nagato. In the show the kind showed Minato have the upper hand in front of A. However, Minato was “technically” defeated by Bee. Before Minato could make a move Bee had his sword against Minato’s stomach. However, Jiraiya makes up for this disadvantage.