Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-31099706-20170327120301/@comment-31099706-20170422115428

@AsianReaper. Yeah man, the writer obviously didn't plan on Itachi to become the good Itachi from the start. and there's many reasons to prove it like these two,

1.Just like you said, Itachi ordering Sasuke to be filled with revenge and hatred and instead just threatening him that he'll kill his loved ones would have obviously worked.

2.Telling Sasuke to achieve MS by killing his best friend. I mean come on, in part 2 he hopes his brother is pure and heroic and has alot of friends to help him and yet in part 1 he literally told his brother the way to gain the powerful MS was killing his best friend(which wasn't even true for crying out loud)

3. Since when exactly was a one shot jutsu that causes brain damage and can only be cured by the best medical ninja possible, was considered a jutsu to hold back? I mean using Tsukuyomi on both his 12 year brother and Kakashi was stupid if he wasn't evil.

4. @Kakashi. In part 2 he actually had planned on him becoming evil and for that he planned on using Shisui's MS for it.

5. He obviously purposely made Sasuke be full of hatred and revenge. And I guess the writer planned on him trying to actually take the Sasuke's sharingan away instead of the part 2 one where he did not want to.

6. They actually were full on going to cut off Naruto's legs off. If it wasn't fir the unexpected entrance of Jiraya.

7. Jiraya can very well beat Itachi, considering Gambunta to be orginally a much bigger summon than his part 2 appearances.

And his Sage Mode and the fact that Jiraya has something that can counter amaterasu.

And they being possibly approached by a alot of shinobi reinforcement.

Why exactly would he spare over Jiraya and not his freaking brother(that in part2 is explained to be the person he loves the most) and his used to be comrade who also is very important for the village and Sasuke. Giving them brain damage.

Reinforcement might have been Kazuku and Hidan. and anyways the whole other memebersof akatsuki was not even shown at that time. maybe the writer didn't even made the other caharacters.

8.Itachi did not hold back woth Tsukuyomi against Kakashi nor Sasuke at anytime.

@Rachin123. Man you're taking something from a novel in which even the anime didn't want to take for some reason.

The 71 year would obviously take alot of chakra if it is real that is.

Tsukuyomi was still in the process if you didn't know. Sasuke broke through it at the beginning of it's process thus escaping from it's 3 days genjutsu time, and not suffering from it's brain damage.

Why do you think he even do a 'watered down' Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he has MS genjutsus and other sorts of genjutsus, it would be stupid of him to use a watered down just to waste alot of his chakra from his already dying body.

Sasuke broke through the Tsukuyomi, and so escaped from it's time manipulation and thus brain damage. and now it's like people asking why he wasn't affected by time manipulation of Tsukuyomi, and it's also like someone breaking out of ice and then people asking why isn't he still in ice?

@NarutoNamikaze. That would be too much power to one person. Itachi's genjutsu is basically a normal MS genjutsu but it's speciality is that it can manipulate time in the victims mind. So basically every genjutsu by your logic should be able to make the person feel that he is killed.

Kakashi got stabbed alot of times, enough to make him think that he lost alot of blood in his body but yet his body didn't stop.And Sakura got chidoried through her heart yet survived. what I mean is genjutsu cannot be that powerful and the reason for Izumi to die was because she literally spent a whole life time in a couple of seconds which even in 3 days time people get brain damage that is almost uncurable.

So I think every genjutsu has the ability to make the person think he's dead but it probably cannot. These are all my honest opinions. @AsianReaper. Yeah man, the writer obviously didn't plan on Itachi to become the good Itachi from the start. and there's many reasons to prove it like these two,

1.Just like you said, Itachi ordering Sasuke to be filled with revenge and hatred and instead just threatening him that he'll kill his loved ones would have obviously worked.

2.Telling Sasuke to achieve MS by killing his best friend. I mean come on, in part 2 he hopes his brother is pure and heroic and has alot of friends to help him and yet in part 1 he literally told his brother the way to gain the powerful MS was killing his best friend(which wasn't even true for crying out loud)

3. Since when exactly was a one shot jutsu that causes brain damage and can only be cured by the best medical ninja possible, was considered a jutsu to hold back? I mean using Tsukuyomi on both his 12 year brother and Kakashi was stupid if he wasn't evil.

4. @Kakashi. In part 2 he actually had planned on him becoming evil and for that he planned on using Shisui's MS for it.

5. He obviously purposely made Sasuke be full of hatred and revenge. And I guess the writer planned on him trying to actually take the Sasuke's sharingan away instead of the part 2 one where he did not want to.

6. They actually were full on going to cut off Naruto's legs off. If it wasn't fir the unexpected entrance of Jiraya.

7. Jiraya can very well beat Itachi, considering Gambunta to be orginally a much bigger summon than his part 2 appearances.

And his Sage Mode and the fact that Jiraya has something that can counter amaterasu.

And they being possibly approached by a alot of shinobi reinforcement.

Why exactly would he spare over Jiraya and not his freaking brother(that in part2 is explained to be the person he loves the most) and his used to be comrade who also is very important for the village and Sasuke. Giving them brain damage.

Reinforcement might have been Kazuku and Hidan. and anyways the whole other memebersof akatsuki was not even shown at that time. maybe the writer didn't even made the other caharacters.

8.Itachi did not hold back woth Tsukuyomi against Kakashi nor Sasuke at anytime.

@Rachin123. Man you're taking something from a novel in which even the anime didn't want to take for some reason.

The 71 year would obviously take alot of chakra if it is real that is.

Tsukuyomi was still in the process if you didn't know. Sasuke broke through it at the beginning of it's process thus escaping from it's 3 days genjutsu time, and not suffering from it's brain damage.

Why do you think he even do a 'watered down' Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he has MS genjutsus and other sorts of genjutsus, it would be stupid of him to use a watered down just to waste alot of his chakra from his already dying body.

Sasuke broke through the Tsukuyomi, and so escaped from it's time manipulation and thus brain damage. and now it's like people asking why he wasn't affected by time manipulation of Tsukuyomi, and it's also like someone breaking out of ice and then people asking why isn't he still in ice?@AsianReaper. Yeah man, the writer obviously didn't plan on Itachi to become the good Itachi from the start. and there's many reasons to prove it like these two,

1.Just like you said, Itachi ordering Sasuke to be filled with revenge and hatred and instead just threatening him that he'll kill his loved ones would have obviously worked.

2.Telling Sasuke to achieve MS by killing his best friend. I mean come on, in part 2 he hopes his brother is pure and heroic and has alot of friends to help him and yet in part 1 he literally told his brother the way to gain the powerful MS was killing his best friend(which wasn't even true for crying out loud)

3. Since when exactly was a one shot jutsu that causes brain damage and can only be cured by the best medical ninja possible, was considered a jutsu to hold back? I mean using Tsukuyomi on both his 12 year brother and Kakashi was stupid if he wasn't evil.

4. @Kakashi. In part 2 he actually had planned on him becoming evil and for that he planned on using Shisui's MS for it.

5. He obviously purposely made Sasuke be full of hatred and revenge. And I guess the writer planned on him trying to actually take the Sasuke's sharingan away instead of the part 2 one where he did not want to.

6. They actually were full on going to cut off Naruto's legs off. If it wasn't fir the unexpected entrance of Jiraya.

7. Jiraya can very well beat Itachi, considering Gambunta to be orginally a much bigger summon than his part 2 appearances.

And his Sage Mode and the fact that Jiraya has something that can counter amaterasu.

And they being possibly approached by a alot of shinobi reinforcement.

Why exactly would he spare over Jiraya and not his freaking brother(that in part2 is explained to be the person he loves the most) and his used to be comrade who also is very important for the village and Sasuke. Giving them brain damage.

Reinforcement might have been Kazuku and Hidan. and anyways the whole other memebersof akatsuki was not even shown at that time. maybe the writer didn't even made the other caharacters.

8.Itachi did not hold back woth Tsukuyomi against Kakashi nor Sasuke at anytime.

@Rachin123. Man you're taking something from a novel in which even the anime didn't want to take for some reason.

The 71 year would obviously take alot of chakra if it is real that is.

Tsukuyomi was still in the process if you didn't know. Sasuke broke through it at the beginning of it's process thus escaping from it's 3 days genjutsu time, and not suffering from it's brain damage.

Why do you think he even do a 'watered down' Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he has MS genjutsus and other sorts of genjutsus, it would be stupid of him to use a watered down just to waste alot of his chakra from his already dying body.

Sasuke broke through the Tsukuyomi, and so escaped from it's time manipulation and thus brain damage. and now it's like people asking why he wasn't affected by time manipulation of Tsukuyomi, and it's also like someone breaking out of ice and then people asking why isn't he still in ice?

@NarutoNamikaze. That would be too much power to one person. Itachi's genjutsu is basically a normal MS genjutsu but it's speciality is that it can manipulate time in the victims mind. So basically every genjutsu by your logic should be able to make the person feel that he is killed.

Kakashi got stabbed alot of times, enough to make him think that he lost alot of blood in his body but yet his body didn't stop.And Sakura got chidoried through her heart yet survived. what I mean is genjutsu cannot be that powerful and the reason for Izumi to die was because she literally spent a whole life time in a couple of seconds which even in 3 days time people get brain damage that is almost uncurable.

So I think every genjutsu has the ability to make the person think he's dead but it probably cannot. These are all my honest opinions.