User talk:Jacce

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Impaling Death Shards, see recent history. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 11:57, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

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Referring to characters
When we're referring to character and they're deceased for example should we change the present tense to the past in the articles? Or is it fine for their articles to stay in the present tense? --Cerez365 (talk) 03:08, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I always found the past tense highly annoying. This wiki covers the entire series, so we should always consider every point of the series as if it happened at this moment. This means we should always write articles in the present tense, even if the character died at some point.
 * The only exceptions should be characters who died before the series even started and events that happened after a character's death. —ShounenSuki (talk 13:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * so uhm....obviously i'm lost as to whom I should follow ._." --Cerez365 (talk) 14:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rinnegan
Does it see chakra or not? I'm confused, cause I though all the 3 of doujutsu can see it, and then I watched a fight between Kakashi and Pein. When he attacks from the underground(Is it correct? xD) Pein is surprised... Homunkulus7 (talk) 11:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Uzumaki Clan Rinnegan
Sup!!!! lately it seems everyone has really been obsessed with the whole yin-yang-6-sage-mambo-jumbo ,but here is a question that bothers me. On the Uzumaki page someone decided to add the rinnegan as a kekkie genkia and well that wrong. Mardara said he gave it to Nagato and yea i may even say that it may have something to do with the fact that he was an uzumaki seeing how they have great stamina but a kekkie genkia that's way too far of a straight. Am I correct? honestly if you don't know its fine alot of people seem to be confused about the last couple of issues seeing as how i am myself. I can ask someone else if your not confident about your answer.TwinRisingDragons (talk) 22:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nagato's jutsu
hello, im been asking you where are the jutsu called "Togrther: Six Path O Pain", i want and i ask you (not an order) to get the page back and the jutsu.

we must put it on nagato jutsu too.

becuase its really a jutsu and considered a technquie.

beleive me and pleaseeeeeeeee, back the jutsu.

on the trivia on the page of this jutsu, i will write why we must back it.

AND THANK YOUSmall brother (talk) 12:58, September 28, 2010 (UTC)BELEIVE IT.

Re. Nagato's Jutsu
sorry, i mean: "Together: Six Path Of Pain"

Re.2 Nagato jutsu
sorry, but i really don't know and forget the tech. name, but what i know and remeber its start with "TOGETHER", but i can explain you the tech.

the tech was when jirayia dead, pein crushed his throat and then stabbed him with his black sword(or whatever it's name).

if didn't find it, i'ts ok, i know you truly doing your best.

but I BEG YOU TO FIND OR REMEMBER IT. and thankyou.

Itachi info box.
Hi there, i just happened to notice that you cannot edit character information boxes. I would've like to make a change in the character box of Itachi Uchiha in regard to his elemental alignment. It nowhere states that Itachi is either Fire nor Water element... just because of the Uchiha's nack for passing down fire techniques does not mean that all Uchiha are fire aligned right? Also i very strongly suggest he is not a water element, rather that he used his sharingan to copy the water techniques that he used, just the same as kakashi does. copying is a technique attained from activating the third tomoe of the sharingan and is not unique to kakashi alone.

Since i am unable to edit the box i would be happy if you considered my requests to removing the "assumed" elemental statement for Itachi. Thanks alot :)

P.S. I am fairly certain Itachi is actually aligned with the earth element however i am not certain of my sources so i deem it best to leave his alignment as blank or unknown.

- Tony Redgrave

Kumogakure's Moving Fortress
I was wondering If you think making a "Kumogakure's Moving Fortress" page would be a good idea. We know what it is a turtle we know what its used for training so do you think it would make a good page? TwinRisingDragons 18:35, October 7, 2010 (UTC) 18:34, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Also I signed my post ,but the link wont apply is their a reason ex. TwinRisingDragons 18:40, October 7, 2010 (UTC) TwinRisingDragons 18:40, October 7, 2010 (UTC) no link applied to my talk page?

Well so much for a contribution this week. Maybe ill just go edit Edit that page instead lol. Man their really are not enough pages to work on BOARD! TwinRisingDragons 18:45, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think an info box would be appropriate since its an animal? If so do you have an info box template i could use?TwinRisingDragons 18:52, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

k I made the edit on the Land Of Lighting Island. tell me what you think? Also I could not think of a good classification so i did not put one.TwinRisingDragons 19:41, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Found Out
Yesterday remember I stated I could not sign my post. Well I went in to preferences and hit default after that my wikia changed into the new wikia skin which is why i could not sign my post because i was in the old skin. NEWAY I realized that you can pick the skin you want to use in your preferences which is something people may want to know so I told you.Im not sure if it means anything to you ,but just to let you know you can choose.TwinRisingDragons (talk) 07:35, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page Reverting
I was just wondering if someone spams a talk page is it fine to revert the edits? --Cerez365 (talk) 10:22, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

mmk~ --Cerez365 (talk) 11:03, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

itachi's water clone?
Hi, i want to ask you, that when did itachi used a water clone?

why that naruto doesn't add yet on his page-"fire release"

THANKYOU....

Re: Re: Rinnegan
If so...then why Pain(or Pein T_T) didn't see Naruto clones hidden as rocks? >_> It's just stupid xD once he can see the chakra, and then he can't... Homunkulus7 (talk) 16:09, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you didn't notice but NO-ONE HERE IS MASASHI KISHIMOTO.... So it really makes no sense at all saying that.. oh and please remember that when fighting, you don't stand up and don't move, you are always moving, you might block an attack from the enemy and he catches you off guard quickly... 1david12 . (talk 07:35, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Spam
I've been trying and failing to contact someone, but am having no luck with IRC. Can you/have you tried? ~SnapperTo 16:32, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

itachi's picture.
hello i know you will tell me something about itachi picture i sent.

sorry for this, please delete the first one,

it was a mistake picture.

and how about the second one, do you like it?

byebye.

THANKYOU....

Re: AbuseFilter
Could you show me some other examples of that same type. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 16, 2010 @ 17:39 (UTC) 17:39, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I added a filter that rejects edits made to talkpages from that range where more than half of an edit delta greater than 50 are capital letters. Should catch a portion of those edits. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 16, 2010 @ 18:45 (UTC) 18:45, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Top 10 + 10 = 20
Hulu has listed the top 10 Naruto and the top 10 Naruto Shippuden episodes. "As the saga of the young ninja warrior Naruto celebrates its 10th anniversary on 10/10/10, we look back at 10 essential episodes from Naruto Shippuden.They are"

1.	 	Naruto: Enter: Naruto Uzumaki! Season 1 : Ep. 1  (23:51) go to video page Welcome to the Village Hidden in the Leaves, where deadly serious ninja roam the land and the seriously mischievous Naruto Uzumaki causes trouble everywhere he goes. 2.	 	Naruto: White Past: Hidden Ambition Season 1 : Ep. 17  (23:41) go to video page Naruto finally explodes! His anger against Haku, who defeated Sasuke, unleashes the power of the Nine-tailed Fox. 3.	 	Naruto: The Sharingan Revived: Dra... Season 1 : Ep. 30  (23:25) go to video page Seeing Naruto furiously fight back against the Grass ninja, Sasuke realizes that he was wrong to think about fleeing the scene of a battle. 4.	 	Naruto: The Fifth Gate: A Splendid... Season 1 : Ep. 50  (23:26) go to video page Lee decides to use the forbidden move, Hidden Lotus, as a last resort. 5.	 	Naruto: An Unrivaled Match: Hokage... Season 2 : Ep. 71  (23:44) go to video page Orochimaru traps the Hokage inside a barrier and continue to battle. 6.	 	Naruto: Beyond the Limit of Darkne... Season 2 : Ep. 79  (23:43) go to video page Gaara employs his Playing Possum Jutsu, which allows the Sand Spirit within him, Shukaku, to display its true power. 7.	 	Naruto: Eye to Eye: Sharingan vs. ... Season 2 : Ep. 82  (23:42) go to video page Kakashi arrives in the nick of time to help Asuma and Kurenai, and Itachi too enters the fray. The ultimate battle between two Sharingan users begins. 8.	 	Naruto: Roar, Chidori! Brother vs.... Season 2 : Ep. 84  (23:42) go to video page Intent on confronting Itachi, Sasuke rushes to the town where Naruto is staying. On the way, tragic memories of his past come flooding back. 9.	 	Naruto: Unforgivable! A Total Lack... Season 2 : Ep. 90  (23:43) go to video page In exchange for healing his arms, Orochimaru offers to bring back to life Tsunade's younger brother Nawaki and Dan, her sweetheart. 10.	 	Naruto: A Plea From a Friend Season 3 : Ep. 133  (23:37) go to video page Naruto releases his Nine-Tail chakra and sends Sasuke flying. Sasuke counters with his Fire Style Jutsu, but Naruto extinguishes the flames easily.

1.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Puppet Fight: 10... Season 1 : Ep. 26  (22:09) go to video page Sakura and Granny Chiyo are engaged in a fierce battle with Sasori, who is able turn himself into a human puppet. They somehow bring Sasori down within the time limit, but he ends up reviving. 2.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Orochimaru vs. J... Season 1 : Ep. 42  (22:09) go to video page With the release of his fourth tail, Naruto completely loses his awareness and is overtaken by destructive impulses. 3.	 	Naruto Shippuden: The Power of the... Season 1 : Ep. 52  (22:10) go to video page Team Kakashi finally have their wish to be reunited with Sasuke granted. Although it has been three long years, Sasuke's feelings have not changed. His ultimate goal is to get revenge against his older brother, Itachi. 4.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Last Words Season 2 : Ep. 80  (23:11) go to video page Asuma is mortally wounded by Hidan’s jutsu, and the Akatsuki have the rest of the Hidden Leaf in a bind. 5.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Team Ten Season 2 : Ep. 82  (23:10) go to video page Asuma’s funeral is held in Hidden Leaf Village amid deep sadness. Shikamaru is the lone absentee, unable to get over the loss. 6.	 	Naruto Shippuden: When You Curse S... Season 2 : Ep. 87  (23:22) go to video page Naruto and Team Kakashi arrive just in time to assist Team Asuma. Sakura and Sai are ordered by Kakashi to aid Shikamaru, who is battling alone. 7.	 	Naruto Shippuden: The Tale of Jira... Season 3 : Ep. 133  (23:15) go to video page Having lost his arm, Jiraiya is outmatched by the six Pains now appearing before him. Of the six, the one called Tendo is revealed to be Jiraiya’s former student Yahiko. 8.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Danger! Sage Mod... Season 4 : Ep. 164  (23:16) go to video page Naruto hits Pain with his Sage Jutsu-perfected Wind Style Rasen Shuriken. Although he succeeds in defeating Ningendo, the remaining Pain quickly confronts him. 9.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Planetary Devast... Season 4 : Ep. 167  (23:16) go to video page Naruto loses himself after seeing Hinata taken out right before his eyes. His anger triggers the Nine Tails’ chakra to go out of control. 10.	 	Naruto Shippuden: Hero of the Hidd... Season 4 : Ep. 175  (23:15) go to video page Nagato, having decided to believe in Naruto’s word, performs his last forbidden jutsu: Gedo Art Rinne Rebirth.

I was wondering if I could list this on the selected episodes trivia Or maybe even a page well maybe not a page but a trivia add may be nice. They are good picks dont you think? TwinRisingDragons (talk) 18:50, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * "As the saga of the young ninja warrior Naruto celebrates its 10th anniversary on 10/10/10"? That's a pretty big mistake, isn't it? —ShounenSuki (talk 19:06, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ibiki Morino
Hey, I was just wondering... when Ibiki Morino gave the tenth question to his BROTHER, Idate Morino, why did Idate fail? I mean, they also chose to take the tenth question just like Naruto. Please reply ASAP.THanks Jrcm (talk) 06:39, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

my new article
hello

please, i want you to put a table on it.

dont worry i will write the information.

and about the article, you will see a wrong spelling

adjustment the spelling please, and if you have more information of this tech.

please write it, and shared it with the other(i beg you)

THANKYOU..Small brother (talk) 13:46, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

images
Same as i asked Deva27. Do you know why don't i have permission to upload photos? --Ttogafer (talk) 20:32, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

But I always included fair use in the summary box, and I always checked tv screenshots when pressing license. No need to explain me all that again.:) --Ttogafer (talk) 18:08, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Works now.--Ttogafer (talk) 18:20, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Edits
I'm sorry I'll undo my editing. I'm new here--HarunoClanAdvenger (talk) 17:47, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Uhhh okay. Are you a boy are girl? And do you mean 'seems'? So why isn't realtionships important on here?--HarunoClanAdvenger (talk) 18:28, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

I thought so.....How old are you? Oh and thank you for clearing up the relationships thing...I'm sorry if I caused you trouble..

That's soooo helpful...Now seriously how old are you?--HarunoClanAdvenger (talk) 18:53, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Whooooa you are a year yonger than Jesse McCartney!!?? COOL! I'm 13.

Okaaaaay.............. :(

What do you mean?

Isn't that kinda creeperish to let them now who signed it? HarunoClanAdvenger (talk) 19:11, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 * hugs*

Re: Filter 3
Updated it to take into account | image = and whitespace. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 23, 2010 @ 23:40 (UTC) 23:40, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Block
Is there any particular reason 174.74.70.151 was blocked? It says "inserting gibberish into pages", but that's obviously not true unless I'm missing something. The only page I ever edit is my animation article, and I'm also the ONLY one who keeps it updated at all - so I find it a little silly to essentially block me from my own page. Whatever I possibly did I'd like to know so it doesn't happen again. If the page itself is an issue, I'd be fine with moving it somewhere else. The table is all messed up due to Wikia's new style change anyways.

^Sorry, the post above from 174.74.70.151 is me. I swore I logged in. Also I just figured out how talk pages work so sorry for the double post as well :P

Insane111 (talk) 08:24, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Zetsu eating people.
I was asking how he does it.

Like,does he just eat them whole or does he do something like what Jugo did and absorb them?

User:GohanRULEZ|Sting! TenRyuoh!]] 10:04, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Madara and Danzo
HI! Can You help me? I don't find proof in the manga. Thank's'. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Madara_Uchiha "Meeting with Danzō Shimura around the time of the Uchiha clan's assassination."Seregond (talk) 15:48, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

Translation
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I would ask to help me in translating this technique:.

hello
hello.I'm still learning. I want to add photos within the topics. I dont know how to do that. I added a pic to kakashi page but it became in the tail of the page. thx

? for you.
The last sentence on the "Summoning: Impure World Resurrection" page is incorrect. It is not yet known if Tobi is Madara. Shouldn't it be... forced Tobi, not "forced Madara Uchiha"?--Kage no ō (talk) 17:23, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke first uses his Sharingan image
OK, pardon me, but what the fuck? All of my recent edits have been denied or undone for various "reasons" and other people have redone them or made very similar edits and its OK? I swear everyone just doesn't like me editing, How come my Sasuke image was deleted as a duplicate when I uploaded it first? It was a perfectly fine image... Then you and another user put up the same file pretty much. Does this seem fair? 21:29, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re. Paths Jutsu
He hasn't been seen using them yet, but he should be able to use it since all the techniques of the Six Paths of Pain are Rinnegan Powers. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:48, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

block log
I saw something like "e-mail blocked" when searching through block logs. What is the meaning of that? --Ttogafer (talk) 10:50, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

But that doesn't have any connection to e.g. Gmail, Yahoo or anything like that right? Thanks. --Ttogafer (talk) 19:45, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes. I understand now. Thanks.--Ttogafer (talk) 20:25, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Slightly Bothersome
Hi Jacce. Would like to point out that Naruto could control himself up to 3 tails before getting all its chakra. Keeping this in mind, Naruto has used 2 jutsu while maintainig control of himself: Sonic Roar and Chakra Arms. Now SOnic Roar is not listed as one of his jutsu, even though he has clearly used it while under control of himself. Naruto is locked to editing to unregistered People, so do you think you can sort this out? I would appreciate that! Thanks a lot!

hanzo's pitcure
hi jacce, i have edit Hanzo pitcure into the anime one.... becoz i htink its better the anime pic than the manga's pic becoz manga's pic just black and white

Request Block of 207.96.188.187
He's blatantly vandalizing pages. --NaruHina fan 21:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

How to?
when i see an article that people are writing on i do'nt know how to wright on it? without having to start my own archive?--JS 16:43, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

sorry i realised how sorry to bother you =]--JS 17:07, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

like ifd someone has an article i didnt understand how to write on it like on talk pages (what im doing now)

my new picture
hi jacce, i want to ask you something?

which would be better for (itachi, nagato, sasori, deidara, kakuzu) for my new picture to add?

new akatsuki or new_akatsuki?

THANKYOU19:25, November 13, 2010 (UTC)19:25, November 13, 2010 (UTC)Small brother (talk) 19:25, November 13, 2010 (UTC)BELEIVE IT

Six Classifications
I can't seem to find a page for the six classifications (E, D, B, A, S). Does such a page exist and if not, should one be created?ZPRN (talk) 02:33, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I knew about the individual pages, but thanks.ZPRN (talk) 20:08, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Filter 11
That filter effectively did the same thing a range block would do, except it spammed the block table, and probably didn't allow us to permit account creation like we should. I added a proper range block for that ip range to ban anonymous edits from it. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 14, 2010 @ 11:08 (UTC) 11:08, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Ranks
oh! i'm sorry, kinda starting here...

kakuzu's-futon: astugai
hello jaeceSmall brother (talk) 08:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

i want to ask you about kakuzu futon handseal?

it was written "RAM", but i think it was wrong!!!!

he used "TIGER", and you can see the episodeSmall brother (talk) 08:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

if i was wrong, then sorryyyyyySmall brother (talk) 08:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

THANKYOU08:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)08:51, November 17, 2010 (UTC)