Talk:Light Novels

Anime-Novel Differences
I feel like this is something we should have now with the amount of novels that have been adapted in the anime. I'd make a page myself, however, I have not read the novels, nor would I know specifically where the changes are in the novels. OmegaRasengan (talk) 14:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone would be against it. The issue is finding someone who wants to do it, complete it and then others to further verify it isn't just nonsense. Munchvtec (talk) 15:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Movie novelisation issues
So, recently an user went around adding novel debuts to every article that had a movie debut, but not a novel one, on account of the movie each having a novelisation. While that might be technically correct, those additions incur some issues. One of them is that at least some of the article subjects only have movie debuts over the movie very briefly featuring flashbacks to anime scenes where they appear. While identifying these in a movie is just a matter of looking and seeing the character in a quick flashback, that doesn't work for the novelisations. Those don't have pictures, which would make it necessary to actually know if the movie novelisation feature those subjects, or even makes mention of them, and that is hard because if Wikipedia is correct, none of the movie novelisations ever had English releases. More pressing in my opinion, is that in marking them as having novel debuts, subjects start appearing in infoboxes them shouldn't. For example, from the second Shippūden movie, Chidori Light Sword shows up in Sasuke's, Chidori Current's, and Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana's; Guts Rasengan and Tornado Rasengan show up in Rasengan's and Naruto's. As non-canon movie subjects, these shouldn't be "bumped up" to appear in manga/anime infoboxes. Most other light novel subjects appear in those because we know them to be part of the chronology, as detailed in this article's session about it, and few that aren't, like "Innocent Heart, Demonic Blood", "Mission: Protect The Waterfall Village!", and the Boruto ones are adapting manga and anime already. Lastly, blanket addition of novel debut to these subjects would essentially making their movie status redundant. The best way to avoid these issues, as far as I could tell, is simply not to list novel debuts for movie stuff that shows up in movie novelisations. I suppose it could be possible to try updating the infobox in same way to tell the difference, like it was done when The Last and Boruto were shown to be canon, but it doesn't seem worth it to make the infoboxes even more complicated for just this. Please do comment and make suggestions. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:53, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd argue that game/movie/novel debuts should be removed entirely from the vast majority of the wiki's articles. Games/movies/novels are not sequential works in the same way that chapters and episodes are, so to, for example, list Naruto as debuting in the Snow movie is misleading because he technically "debuts" in the other eight movies as well. I think the wiki would be better off only listing game/movie/novel debuts in cases where that's the first appearance of the topic in any media, maybe with occasional exceptions for cases like Mui. So Naruto would only have a manga and anime debut and nothing else, Hinoko would have a novel and anime debut, Toneri would have a movie and anime debut. In cases like Naruto's where this involves removing appearances from the infobox, those appearances are often better-documented in the actual article: he has a subheading for each movie/novel that he appears in, and there's a list of every game that he's playable in. The media tags wouldn't need to be removed I don't think, but their presence or absence shouldn't really matter for smw purposes.
 * If that proposal is unappealing, I'd support disregarding novel-adaptations of movies for debut/media tag purposes; since the wiki isn't in the practice of considering those novels distinct enough for their own articles, it shouldn't be treating them as distinct enough to warrant listing in infoboxes. ~SnapperTo 11:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC)