Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-34194151-20180906044517

@Littlegen, look up diamagnetism and paramagnetism. Quartz is a common ingredient in sand and in the presence of a magnetic field it is repelled due to it's diamagnetism. Shukaku and Gaara are always using magnetism to propel their sand. And my point about Rasa's gold dust manipulation also stands, because gold isn't normally very magnetic, it's a far cry from iron in fact.

@LegionZero Darn I was hoping you were talking about something else... but we don't know if naruto gathered the chakra or not do we? When do they say that?

@Hagoromo

At this point your argument rests on a delicate balance, depending on Legionzero's next response. You are pretty much saying that naruto was using KSM but without the cloak and without pigmentation when he healed guy etc. Coming full circle, Your theory rests on the following criteria:

that one: naruto needs the 9 bijuu chakra to use six paths sage mode. Common Counter: Juubi chakra is without a doubt a source of ridoku sage mode, but it is very possible that Hagromo granted him the ability to use it without it. If we assume this is true, your argument actually backfires because you yourself have claimed hokage naruto no longer has the 8 bijuu. If hokage naruto is in fact using RSM in those panels, it would confirm the point. It could just as easily be the case that SPSM is in fact indicated by the crossed eye pupils but a lack of pigmentation. As legionZero noted, Hokage naruto's SPSM chakra cloak may lack the same features it had in the 4SWW due to simple fact that he no longer has the 8 bijuu chakra that allow him to make the coffin seal. So it may actually be better to define hokage naruto as having SPSM + KCM, rather than saying he has SPSM +pesudo Jubbi chakra cloak.

that two: Madara citing the ten tailed coffin seal as the hallmark of rikodu sage mode. Counter: True, but this statement can easily be reconicled if you acknowledge that RSM is simply a homograph, and that ridoku sage mode can be achieved through having juubi chakra, while on the other hand hagoromo can gift a user the ability to enter ridoku sage mode as sort of an upgrade to basic sage mode, independent of tailed beast chakra.

three: hokage naruto only gains sage mode pigmentation when he himself gathers the chakra, while if kurama gathers the chakra there seems to be a lack of pigmentation.

Counter: Pending LegionZero's response. This statement, while possible, has yet to be substantiated. We know that when naruto enters KSM in the last, we can clearly see the pigmentation about the eyes. We can't cite hokage naruto in the gaiden as an example, because that is not a good control for this experiment, since it's the issue we are trying to find a consensus on. a good control is finding an example where hokage naruto was clearly stated to not be using SPSM as an adult, and then showing that when kurama gathers the senjutsu, the pigmentation doesn't appear on naruto, and that proves that he is using KSM but without pigmentation, instead of SPSM + KCM.