Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20161030085406/@comment-25643824-20161104193732

@Greatestsin ok well naruto using clones in the fight with sasuke is not an advantage as some were insinuating.

Again sasuke took a while to move and he was BLEEDING FROM THE MOUTH, he was not prior to the punch.

Let me ask you a question can two persons duplicate a fight perfectly, no they cannot there will always be different circumstances during the fight. By your logic every situation that arise in a battle is luck.

I am not insisting it was not lucky, it is what it is, which is a devastating counter punch. I cannot be standing directly over someone mere inches away in a very intense battle, gain the upper hand loose it (whatever the reason may be) and not expect that person to counter, and that is what naruto did without  hesitation, very commandingly. I don't know why you insist on calling it something when the manga clearly calls it something else.

He obviously ended up like f*ing sasuke, because he was willing to go the distance of bringing sasuke back without killing him, even if it meant self sacrifice. You act like if it's the first naruto sacrificed himself for sasuke. Are you forgetting when he stopped kakashi from killing him or when he tried to stop the raikage from killing, hell kairou even beat him half to death for sasuke, why will loosing an arm be surprising.

Ok and naruto did it to defend himself against sasuke's (unfairly gained power boost) which I might add kuruma said placed sasuke on hagoromos level, and for all his unfair efforts poor sasuke still could not kill/defeat naruto. So yea naruto is stronger than sasuke back then and definitely as an adult.