Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-9782468-20200429002704

Whoooo boy I cam back to lots of posts lol.

One user at a time I suppose

@Flatzone come up with an argument next time lol. Also your claim that "cherry picking is what I do" is Ironic since you can't even cherry pick, you've made a habit of making things up to give more credit to characters you want, prime example being you randomly tried to claim Obito is a sensor.

@Snapper2 What I'm saying really is that this feat from the novel is inconsistent in motivation and mechanics and character/power portrayal. Yes, it was never shown in the manga or anime, but even if it did show up, the feat itself makes little sense when we consider Itachi's motivations and what he wanted to accomplish.

But the argument that you were mainly discussing is the one about me saying that the feat was not repeated in any other media. This particular argument was one I made simply because it reinforced the other; as in, it didn't make sense in terms of character motivations and abilities (my other posts go more into depth about it), and the feat was never shown despite the manga and anime both constantly going back and repeating information as well as expanding. It was more of a combination of factors, not just the fact that the manga and anime didn't include it.

In terms of you saying that Itachi's usage of Tsukuyomi should satisfy whatI said about expanding on a power with a feat, I disagree. Itachi's usage of Tsukuyomi there was so far beyond the regular usage that it seems more like an outlier, and due to the other factors I mentioned, again makes me see it as less valid.

Idk if I caught every argument. Actually I probably haven't, there's a lot to read lol. Sorry if I missed an important one, feel free to remind me and I'll give my take.

@Jason AGAIN the AKatsuki don't care if a member kills another member, demonstrated several times by Kakuzu. Noticed you happily ignored this argument lol.

I never said Tsukuyomi consumed less than Amaterasu. Actually imo they cost about the same amount of chakra. But anyways, he wouldn't solo them with an Amaterasu spam either so Idk your point with this one.

So you're saying that if Obito's eyes were gone, he'd still be able make someone else use his own technique. Lmao where are you getting this from? The techinque is obviously tied to the eyeball, which is why Madara and Kakashi got Kamui with the eye. The only reason Sasuke didn't get Itachi's powers is because being close relatives, his eye became an EMS and kept his own techniques.

But also, if the technique doesn't need the eyeball, why doesn't Kakashi just impart Kamui onto Sasuke or Sarada? Like, do you see how silly that sounds?

No, Itachi's eyes were gone which means Amaterasu was lost to him. And even if it wasn't you'd still have to explain why he didn't us Tsukuyomi instead of Amaterasu to seal in Sasuke, because Tsukuyomi would have 100% put Obito down but Amaterasu can be avoided by taking off your armor lol.

Your link gives me an error.

Akatsuki's motivations would be second to Uchiha Madara possibly destroying the Leaf village, I'd think.

Uh, a painless execution while retaining his chakra during a clan massacre is better than wasting chakra during a clan massacre, and Itachi literally always tries to use minimal chakra.

Obito didn't need to kill Itachi if Itachi planned to join Akatsuki, because Itachi was a capable Shinobi who could bring in Tailed Beasts in order to fulfill the Eye of the Moon Plan. Whereas Itachi has no reason to want Madara alive.

You're saying the novels never contradicted the manga?