Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25139119-20140705022956/@comment-7292165-20140813173234

ShaRin'negan94 wrote: Rachin123 wrote: @ShaRin'negan94 First off Orochimaru had his arms back he used some other genni pig. Secondly I'll give you that both Jiraiya and Orochimaru could haey been distracted in some cases but Orochimaru also had Kabuto to assist so if he didn't do it he would. As for the Ame Orphans yes they became strong individuals later on after. They all had something about them that made them who they were. Jiraiya didn't really seek into Naruto to see what his talent was. So...

well when Jiraya met the ame orphans they couldn't fight like a Ninja (nin-, tai-, genjutsu) and after he left them they were quite strong and were able to perfom varius ninjutsu and so on and i think that Jirayas was trying to only concentrate on NAruto's Rasengan but I don't know why he should have ignored NAruto (or didn't want to see in his talent as he is the son of his student with which he had something like a fasther son relationship and so on.....) Well we don't know if they were quite strong but that they can handle themselves and they trained on their talents. What Jiraiya did with Naruto was try and make him like himself or his father which is nothing wrong with that but still. Its not like Jiraiya even taught him much. Jiraiya had these toad techniques and Naruto didn't have them. This could've also been because Kishi didn't think of the techniques yet. Collaboration techniques with your summoning which was only shown in the anime filler with Naruto but its not like he used it and other cases. Sasuke learned of Orochimaru's snake techniques. This brings me back to Jiraiya not being such a good teacher. He's great but that doesn't necessarily mean your good at teaching. Anyways Naruto wasn't very good so he used kurama so what. If Sasuke no offense was so great normally he wouldn't rely on the Sharingan or MS most of the time. I know its his but its upgrade and though kuramna isn't Naruto's power its an upgrade. Its whatever though. People are going to be people.