Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20190213044806/@comment-9782468-20190214141506

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
 * Feats >> Statements.
 * Undercover Itachi making such statements = Non reliable info.

Also Ma and Pa admitted that they never knew of Nagato etc, which means that Jiraiya never entered sage mode infront of Nagato and pals i said so because Ma and Pa is needed for Jiraiya to enter sage mode. Yeah but since they never fought, the statements stand because there's no feat to contradict.

Itachi was willing to have Kisame take Kakashi prisoner for knowing too much about their goals. He was willing to do that while Kurenai and Asuma were still there for back up. Yet with Jiraiya, he immediately wanted to flee despite Jiraiya being their only opponent (Naruto doesn't count lol).

If Itachi could, he'd take Jiraiya in like he wanted to with Kakashi. If he wanted to make an excuse, he could say the destruction from the battle with a Sannin would cause so much destruction that too many people would start to dig into Akatsuki's goals. But no, he said he couldn't beat Jiraiya.

Jiraiya can enter Sage Mode without Ma and Pa, he just can't do it in combat scenarios