Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27896651-20160305213845/@comment-27896651-20160306180039

It may be a little late to say this. However, when I said that Jiraiya was more adept at using sage mode, I meant that in the sense of maintaining it for a longer period of time rather than perfect vs. imperfect. Also, here's something that's straight from the wiki: Jiraiya was taught how to use senjutsu by Fukasaku, which he can use to increase his speed, durability, and physical strength.[30] He can also use it to empower his other ninjutsu, such as the Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan. Before he can gain these benefits, Jiraiya must enter Sage Mode, which he does not have mastery of. This causes his Sage Mode form to make him more toad-like in appearance, such as warts and webbed hands and feet; although his frog-like legs enable him to jump better, he dislikes the overall appearance because he believes women will find it unattractive. Using Sage Mode requires his supply of natural energy be constantly replenished, something that is difficult to do while in combat. For this reason, Jiraiya summons Fukasaku and Shima and fuses them to his body, having them gather natural energy for him. As an added bonus, Fukasaku and Shima can combine attacks with Jiraiya's, as with the Sage Art: Goemon, or they can perform justu that he can't, as with genjutsu.

In my opinon, this would make Jiraiya the better sage because his toad features allow him to jump better and Fukasaku and Shima also allow him to use imperfect sage mode for longer periods of time than Minato, who can only use perfect sage mode for 20/30 seconds. So wich is better? I think that it would have to be Edo-Minato vs. Jiraiya since as far as I can tell, only Kurama-Minato could possibly Jiraiya.