Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170128170340/@comment-31259037-20170208123930

If Itachi is not sick, and has the EMS, he will be able to go into complete susanoo mode. We have only seen Madara use the susanoo, and no other mangekyo powers, whilst Itachi has the sword and mirror, in addition to amaterasu and tsukuyomi. Leaving out intelligence and chakra levels, just that difference alone in EMS known powers makes Itachi the winner. As soon as Madara adds Rinnegan, sage mode, healing, or wood release, etc. to his strength, then it is a different story. I think the only Uchiha (max strength level is the EMS) to give a challenge to Itachi EMS would be Obito EMS. Obito with both EMS eyes, kamui and susanoo would be insane.