Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-1251315-20140625132912/@comment-4710047-20140706180947

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: We have not made any significant effort to trim Madara and Naruto's articles. None. Its been talked about time and time again, but is met with resistance evertime from members of the site who are also fans of those characters, who feel we make them look "weaker" if we trim out the 20+ excess mentions of Naruto's Rasengan usage, or every time Madara blinks with his Rinnegan. Look at the talk pages and their archives for proof of that.

No, by proof, I mean, like Snapper, show me the history of articles where you see we have given a significant effort to reducing their size and yet, as you claim, it hasn't worked. You won't find any to support your claim.

It has never been tried on a mass scale and I think you'll find that if we did, much of our problem would be dealt with.

You're right. There's no singular discussion where we all have come to a consensus on whether or not to trim. But, discussions and efforts alike, we have never get anything done with any attempt to trim (and you can't say that we've never attempted to trim singular sections). And that's my point. Come with intention to trim, you try and do something about it, you get knocked back. Come with intention to tab, you get " NO. Let's trim, let's trim" Trimming seemingly doesn't work, so why not try something new for a change.

Want small tidbits of Trimming and slimming attempt? Here you go. And here's another attempt to Tab.

Massive article edits to remove said fat?
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Yea, as you can see, there are a few Vigilante Trimmers trying to contribute to the effort. But unless you can get a centralised effort on the matter, you're not going to get anywhere close to reaching your goal. It's an easy thing to establish. Instead, tabs instantly makes things more organised and appeal to the masses a bit more in the method that is used to make it a reality. I mean, as you've said, you always get fought back on.

I'm not sure what significant means to you, but I'm sure you and I can both agree that trimming an article down isn't just a one time effort. It's slowly done over time, like anything else that's established here on the wiki. And yes, fans may slow down progress, but that's the main obstacle. You of all people should know that saying "too bad" ain't gonna cut this time around. I see people fight you left and right on this type of stuff. By trimming you're fighting an uphill battle.

Also, note that there's is a huge difference in trimming character articles and summary articles. It's like they exist on two different spectrums. It's not so easy to edit a character without an opposing idea.