Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-26636534-20200810132725

TheSlyWeasel wrote: Okay bear with me on this. Ay, the Raikage as we know is a lightning timer. Ay's top speed = the speed of lighting- 300,000,000 m/s. Ay's speed feats are up for a separate discussion. This same Ay is hurling at top speed towards minato who is just standing still. A few CENTIMETRES before he connects- Minato casually throws up his kunai which spins 1/4 in the air before A touches Minato. Assuming a low end arbitrary speed of HALF the speed of lightining- 150,000,000 m/s at which Ay punches and a 10 cm distance from minato's face- it gives a total of 0.0000000006 secs for the kunai to complete 1/4 rotation in the air. For this to happen-Minato has to flick the kunai from one end of the handle to create rotational torque for the kunai to spin, which clearly did not happen. Also to have the kunai spin at THAT speed (because of such a short time duration), he would literally have to flick it with all his might, which also he didn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWqweyUXIrQ&t=151s

here's the link of the fight from the anime Nature transformation lightning is not real lighting, so the comparison is off there. Applying real world physics to Naruto is a never ending rabbit-hole. Also, I would advise not linking to any unofficial sites for the anime.

Others have touched on it, but let me break down Minato's speed...

Ch542, Minato's kunai in hand in the first instance is facing in the opposite direction. A seems to touch Minato's nose, Minato flies to the tree kunai, in a crouched position, turns head slightly. Minato's kunai in hand, then is above the shoulder at A, in a downwards position.

Now, we can't say that the kunai in hand only went up. In previous panels, Minato is standing just behind a tree-line. The sequence plays out, and you can see the panel where Minato flew to the tree kunai. A's shoulder is in front of the tree line in question. This indicates that Minato's kunai went both forward and upward.

I also like to summarize the number of movements and change in positions that Minato made in the sequence.

1. Minato flicks the kunai in hand forward and upward faster than A at full speed.

2. Minato teleports to the tree-kunai, in a crouched position(change in position occurred).

3. Minato makes a slight turn of his head in the same instance in the direction of A.

4. Minato teleports to the kunai traveling above A that was at his shoulder, but is now in line with his waist. Showing A is in motion.

5. Minato spins around mid-air and attacks A, but is intercepted by Bee's tentacle.

6. Minato dodges Bee's attack, places FTG seal while still airborne.

All of this occurs, and A can't do anything but move his eyes. Not counting 4. as that is FTG only. That is 5 movements that Minato did that A had zero counter-movement to. And no, from the five kage summit arc, A can stop from full speed quite effectively. So A couldn't even react to Minato's movements at all.