Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-30241447-20180123172448/@comment-33286580-20180228082222

Thekillman wrote:

He did. Though they were likely Zetsu cells, which are quite inferior.

that is what i am saying. the Hashirama cell he recieved werent potent as the one with Madara.

Thekillman wrote: Just like with Naruto and the Juubi, Hagoromo simply took what was there and modified it. In this case, he brought out the Rinnegan, restricted it to one eye and allowed Sasuke to concurrently have the MS active.

again, that is what i said. Hagoromo took and magnified the powers to help Sasuke awaken Rinnegan.

the cells Sasuke recieved were inferior qualities to that of Madara and when Madara only acquired the Rinnegan after years and that too on his deathbed, chances of Sasuke awakening Rinnegan were slim to none so instantly.

it was Hagoromo's doing.

Thekillman wrote:

No it's not. It's neither a natural progression, nor an evolution or devolution of the eye. The Rinne Sharingan split into two distinct and different eyes. One is the Rinnegan. One is the Sharingan.

what you are saying is that RInnegan and Sharingan are watered down version of RinneSharingan, and i agreed.

Yet...

it is in a sense according to Manga. the only two people other than Hagoromo to awaken Rinnegan are Madara and Sasuke and they possess Sharingan and later MS. even fillers showed Hagoromo possessing Sharingan and then MS.

if Rinnegan was not the evolution from Sharingan and Ms then Naruto who also recieved Six Paths Chakra should have awakened the Rinnegan. he did not.

Thekillman wrote:

It's not just chakra. You need the ability to produce that chakra by yourself. Sasuke and Naruto both got chakra from Hagoromo, yet that didn't give Sasuke SPSM nor Naruto Rinnegan. The flesh they had brought out powers, and those powers stayed. The chakra here is more a reference to the Fruit's chakra (meaning "power") rather than the normal chakra (which is a substance to cast jutsu with).

I have no idea what you meant here...

but if you mean to say that Sasuke and Naruto were the reincarnations of the Hagormo's son and such were able to produce the Six Paths Chakra, then for note the Hyuga Main Branch has the most potent chakra closer to Hamura. that is why their Byakugan are key to the Tenseigan.

Thekillman wrote: This is unlikely, especially the Tenseigan part. We don't really know if Six Paths chakra stays (Obito's case implies yes, Kakashi's and Hinata's cases so far implies no)

Yeah. the tenseigan part is a bit far stretched. but a Byakugan is required to transcend to the tenseigan. Hinata already got the chakra from Hamura so it is really not a no.

Six paths chakra stays.

so far four people gained Six paths chakra. Madara (combiming the brother's chakra and awakening Rinnegan and becoming TTJ), Obito (becoming TTJ) and Naruto and Sasuke (granted by Hagoromo). they all have their Six Paths CHakra.

as with Kakashi... he never recived Six Paths Chakra. in the final moment when he so called recieved the chakra, it was because of Obito. Obito didnt transfer the chakra to him, he was there in spirit inside Kakashi. it was obito's chakra doing the work. Kakashi never acquired the chakra. once obito left, the sharingan along with the CHakra left.

for Hinata... it just does not make sense. she Like Sasuke and Naruto recieved the Chakra. she should have it. it was even shown when in the final fight between Toneri and Naruto where all of Naruto's chakra was sucked she transferred her Hamura CHakra to Naruto. it is what made him able to withstand that chakra absorbing technique of Toneri and fight on.

that was the last we saw Hinata fight in a way. so we do not know if she still has the chakra or not. it should still be there though