Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20170508131046/@comment-30426414-20170512152146

Ninjachris wrote: @Lorenzo VonMT your missing the point which is not whether the writing was bad or not, but rather the message the writer wanted to convey to readers. Which was the same message in the movie, that kimoshiki can dominate sasuke. You are using the manga alone as reference I'm using both, picture the scenario in the movie with sasuke being burnt half to death, there's no way he would escape from that encounter alive if naruto wasn't there. Anyway you slice it based on the movie and manga, sasuke would get killed.

And you are missing my point. I'm not challenging the message, I'm challenging the way it was presented in the manga. I also used the movie as a reference, notice how in my previous reply I pointed out that the execution in the movie was believable but in the manga it wasn't. Again, I'm not saying Sasuke could have escaped in the movie, my point is that the manga changed the scene causing it to look less believable because we very well know that Sasuke could have easily used susanoo to escape a binding move.

Ninjachris wrote: Now in the manga yes they were a bit lazy with that part, but there are somethings we can't gauge in the manga because it is still pictures, example the speed of the rock dragon attack, who knows sasuke could have probably been crushed in its jaws while activating susano.

That can't have been it because activating Susanoo is much faster than waiting for Naruto to defend him.

Look at it this way: if it was Naruto in place of Sasuke and they had Naruto being saved by Sasuke's Susanoo, would you sit there and believe Naruto couldn't have used Kurama to escape?