Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180224230326

@Legion

when did hirudora blow up Susano of Madara.

reference please.

@Killer

no i did not interupt anythig you said as 7Gate Gai being God Mode. i said 8Gate Gai is God Mode.

about the insulting part, i think Madara would say so even when he was Rinnegan or EMS Madara. the two Madara and Hashirama were in the level of their own where in their fights reshaped the lands. where Gai had to go 7Gates to defeat Kisame, it was clear that 8Gate Gai will be needed to defeat Rinnegan or EMS Madara.

Yes Gai was fast in 7Gate, but even that speed couldnot help him land a single hit on Madara. but the fact that it was TTJ Madara it is indeed hard to make real sense of it.

but that is why i say that no one said Gai had speed compared to the Raikage or greater. he didnot.

to prove, 3rd Raikage dodged Rasenshuriken, one of the fastest attack, twice, and one time at point blank range.

to further prove that Gai was not on level of Raikage (or atleast equal) in speed is when he was 8Gate (not God Mode Night Gai) and was attacking Madara and was to deliver the final blow with Evening Elephant, Minato appeared in the window that was barely a few meters away and had a millisecond to act on and yet he succeded in whisking away with the TSB. Minato still reigns in speed and probably followed by Raikage and 8Gate Gai.

yes, I still believe Naruto will survive and win, but his survival will be like bloodied and bruised and bandaged from head to toe in the hospital. that is how far it will go.

in 7Gate Gai's strongest punch is Hirudora. and again i say naruto can not only counter it, but even block it.

Naruto stood completely unharmed against SHinra Tensei in base form by sorrounding him with his clones and surviving the repulsive force, and here he is in SM. the moves just replaced by air pressure force against repulsive force. by what i understand of science (i do have a good understanding) repulsive force is greater than force of air pressure.

Naruto doesnt even have to endure it. he can counter. he already counted large scale destructive attack like the Forest jutsu in base mode with little help from Kurama and barrage of Big Ball Rasengan. in SM he has Ultra Big Ball Rasengan barrage.

there is also Rasenshuriken. Hirudora is compact air pressure and Rasenshuriken is strongest wind release jutsu. the two on impact, which Naruto can actually detonate on will (from his fight with Pein), will cancel each other out.

so he can endure, counter the strongest move of 7Gate Gai and has the reaction to dodge Gai's speed too... SM naruto has the advantage.

on that note. after his fight with Kisame, Gai was completely wasted using 7Gate once. it should have been same against Madara and yet they wanted to show the 8th Gate and hence he wasnt done for. Gai certainly hadnt improved in a matter of day and never was anything said that opening 8th gate recovers a person. it was plot.

and using the Gates makes Gai vulnerable to damage on his own and strong outside attack would literally do him in.

i am making my points seeing all the feets of 7Gate Gai and SM Naruto (around the time he fought 3rd Raikage).

so yes, i stand to my point, SM Naruto wins.