Talk:Tornado Rasengan

Oddity
IDK if this is important to you guys but I think it should be referenced (especially for those who haven't seen the movie or don't want to) that when Naruto releases his Nine-Tails Chakra during this scene in the Movie he doesn't gain the feral look that he normally would from releasing the Nine-Tails Chakra in fact he looks like his normal self (IDK if part of it has to do with him releasing some of his own non Nine-Tails Chakra with it or what) but usually when fans see "Combined with Nine-Tails Chakra/Naruto Released Nine-Tails Chakra" they automatically think that he gets a more Feral Look (no matter what) and that everything gets boosted and things of that nature. if you want to watch through the movie (Shippuden Movie 2: Bonds) look at that scene you will notice that Naruto isn't in a Feral State as he normally should be when releasing Nine-Tails Chakra. just thought you guys would want to mention something about it or something so yeah. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 16:20, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Physical change occur only when he loses control or the fox forces it upon his body, Naruto could already control a small amount of Kurama's chakra on his own.--Elveonora (talk) 16:27, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

where is it stated that thats actually what occurs? Obviously when he loses control (or more accurately lets his temper/Emotions get the better of him) but I don't think the fox forces the Feral Changes on his body (I've never read or heard that stated in any form at all ever) its always happened even when he was in control and still releasing the fox's Chakra (in other words when he was calm or whatever and asked the Fox to lend him some of his Chakra, etc. he still gained the Feral look anyways) yeah he could already control some of Kurama's Chakra (thats obvious otherwise Naruto would always have it active and other such things he can tap into it whenever he wants but the fox's Chakra isn't always giving him a boost or whatever unless he wants it to) but Kurama still had control over about 90% of his own Chakra so yeah. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 20:34, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Each time I remember when that feral stuff happened, he was angry. The more negative emotions he feels, the easier it is for Kurama to leak out it's chakra as Naruto's negative emotions attract Kurama's negative emotions.--Elveonora (talk) 21:32, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

uhhhhhhh..... No Duh.... thats basically exactly what I just got through saying except in your own words (just FYI Temper=Angry and he's gone into Nine-Tails Chakra mode without being Angry (I remember a couple times he went when we was influenced by outside forces (other than himself and Kurama) and also when he was feeling Negative Emotions (not just Anger) and that there was even a couple times when he got as angry as he needed to be or even angrier to unleash the Chakra but it never happened) (I also think I do remember a couple times when he was Calm and/or not angry when it also triggered and went into a feral looking state) not to mention you never answered the question as to where and when was it stated that the fox has to force the changes upon Naruto's Body and if you can't answer that then you have no ability to use that in an argument. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 22:01, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Any kind of physical or mental stress calls forth negative emotions. When you are in pain, ur nervous--Elveonora (talk) 22:05, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly I never said it didn't. your the one saying that "Anger is what triggers it" and that it can't be anything else other than anger (Stress does not equal Anger all the time Stress can also call upon fears, Worries, Nervousness etc.) so basically the whole thing you've been fighting for this whole time you just undid with what you just said. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 22:10, March 27, 2013 (UTC)