Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150518115443/@comment-142748-20150616043452

GreatestSin wrote: orochimaru at his best is hype but we know that he was able to survive 4-tail-kyuubi easily while jiraya was nealry killed by 3(?)-tails...

in endurance and ninjutsu diversitiy i give it to oro, and oro seems to have enough chakra to gain sage mode (but body was to weak), so, it isnt that far below jiraya...

in the end i think oro wins thanks to some hunique jutsus which jiraya cant be prepared agaisnt (since he never knew they existed) ^_^ Jiraiya defeated KN4 abiet with heavy injury, while Orochimaru couldn't do a damn thing besides push him away from him. Jiraiya was also highly respected and feared in Akatsuki, given Itachi said he can only tie with Jiraiya and not beat him.

Orochimaru may have the edge now with Mokuton and his arms back, but for the most part Jiraiya had surpassed him until then.