Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26834209-20150814122647/@comment-26773508-20150815052246

GreatestSin wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Yeah that part was rather ridiculous, as Sasuke had been stabbed by Danzo with his wind-enhanced kunai, yet Sasuke moved around as if nothing has happened: effortlessly manifesting the Susanoo and firing the arrows, then having a brief scuffle with Naruto that involved a chidori. And in all these scuffles he didn't show a single sign of the pain and fatigue that would result from a stab wound. In the end, Kakashi was nerfed so that Kishi could get a boner out of his favourite pastime (glorifying Sasuke). wasnt he healed by karin? Ok double checked the manga. Karin did heal him after the stabbing. My bad.

Sasukeuzumaki22 wrote: lol I thought this would be more interesting, one itachi and kakashi are both smart claiming one is smarter is impossible to prove. Agreed. They're both smart and with their current feats we can't figure out who's actually smarter. But in genjutsu and taijutsu Itachi has better feats. They seem to be evenly matched in ninjutsu, as Itachi also had all sorts of techniques like Exploding Clones, Katon and Suiton, and his superb shuriken jutsu with which he was able to blind Edo Nagato's summons while staying out of their fields of vision. Kakashi has a 1000 jutsus but we haven't seen much of that yet. I suppose you can blame Kishi's Uchiha fetish for that. All the major Uchihas get awesome techniques as well as free ultra-haxx upgrades without having to work hard (Mangekyo techniques). Meanwhile the Uchiha's closest genetic rivals don't get any screentime. The Senju and the Uzumaki seem virtually extinct while the Hyuuga spend most of their time in the background bitching about the Main House and Branch House. Like Kakashi, these clans had enormous potential but Kishi just focused on a bunch of whiners like the Uchiha. Sasuke was able to create such a wide variety of impressive Raiton jutsus derived from chidori. Meanwhile Kakashi, the creator of chidori and a genius who became a jonin at the age of 13, spends his entire screentime using the same old jutsu.

Same with Naruto, who in my view is one of the worst protagonists in any fiction. His arsenal is limited to Kage Bunshin and Rasengan, and throughout the series relied too much on an external power (Kurama). He becomes battle-smart in Part 2, but still is an idiot nonetheless. The most glaring example is when Edo Nagato was about to rip out Naruto's soul. Naruto recollects Pain's various jutsus, including the ability to absorb chakra. He then immediately forgets all of them and attacks Nagato with a rasengan, only for the jutsu to be effortlessly absorbed. Naruto curses himself for forgetting Pain's jutsu, and then instead of doing something useful to counteract the Human Path jutsu, he fucking asks Nagato what the jutsu is! A Hokage as stupid as that will get a whole bunch of people needlessly killed. Even with Shikamaru as his advisor, he'd eventually end up doing something enormously stupid, as Shikamaru can't be there to advise Naruto all the time (Shikamaru could be unavailable due to an emergency, or very sick, or dead, etc.). Naruto's lucky he's Hokage during a peaceful era.

Now contrast that with the feats of Sasuke and all other major Uchihas. All of them have been shown to be very smart and shrewd, not to mention uber-powreful. It's quite clear that the manga's name should have actually been Uchiha Shippuden, as they get all the glory.