Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27660682-20160305032312/@comment-28300126-20160425061136

You people keep talking about how super-op-instawin silent killing and hidden mist is. It's not a foolproof combo. Heck, Kakashi was able to keep up with Zabuza despite being nearly blinded by the mist. The sharingan doesn't help much if he can't even see the opponent.

So no, Zabuza would not use the Hidden Mist and then use his silent killing technique to instantly decapitate Hidan. Hidan might be arrogant but he is still capable of observing his surroundings when presented with a handicap like that.

Also, water clones are one tenth of the power of the original, as stated by Haku. Sasuke, during the Wave Arc, was able to destroy them pretty easily. They are not as hyped up as you people are making them.

Despite what you might think, Hidan is not a slack-jawed, drooling, moron. And despite what you might think, he isn't fond of being decapitated or dismembered. Also, Hidan and Zabuza rank the same on the intelligence stat if you follow those religiously.

Zabuza is a jonin, so is Kakashi, and so was Asuma. Keep in mind Asuma was only able to hold his ground against Hidan thanks to Shikamaru constantly using his shadow sewing to make Hidan dodge and keep him half focused. Heck, even Kakuzu said Hidan was playing too much during that fight. That was the only way Asuma had a chance to fight him, and even then he was still being pushed. And I think Asuma could hold his own against Zabuza, he was one of the Guardian Shinobi after all.

You don't become a member of a group of S-Ranked criminals by being weak enough to lose to a random jonin that isn't protected by the plot.

Also, who is to say Hidan does not have any jutsu beyond his curse? He was a shinobi of a village you know. I'm sure they had some sort of jutsu standards to become a ninja before they decided to go tourist.

Hidan wins, hands down.