Talk:Hōki Taketori

Information
This is all the info I've gathered about Hōki: Hōki Taketori♂ is the boy in Boruto’s class who most notably wears a black mask covering his mouth, nose and neck in an exact manner to Kakashi Hatake. He has brown spiky hair and wears a light blue vest and a blue long-sleeved shirt underneath. He can be clearly seen talking to Denki and Dōshu in Episode 25, but the only character credited is Sayū Jōge, who was credited in Episode 12 where this character didn’t appear to speak at all. His name is confirmed in conversation in Episode 36 and is credited as well. He may hail from the Taketori clan mentioned in Shippuden.

I leave this here for those more familiar with editing and creating more fleshed out articles. Feel free to use any of the information as you see fit for use.

Hidanprime (talk) 04:22, December 7, 2017 (UTC)

Removing the warning?
should we remove the warning about Hoki resembling Kakashi? we now know from the latest episode relating to this character has the answer why he dressed as his idol. if not, guess leave it be then Kunoichi101 (talk) 00:15, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was there because we had no official word on it. It being on the appearance section should be enough for people not to add it again if they have a modicum of common sense. This being the internet, that might be expecting too much though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:18, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

Rank
We've long since established that while someone is an anbu, that is their rank, and what they are outside anbu doesn't quite matter. Hoki is a strange matter, as he's able to take the Chunin Exams and be promoted to chunin, while he's an anbu. Shouldn't we have him listed as anbu, rather than chunin? Munchvtec (talk) 22:40, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think he should be listed as an Anbu. Chocho and Inojin get to do Chunin level missions alongside Shikadai because he is a Chunin while they are still Genin. I think Hoki and his team only get Anbu-level missions because their teacher is an Anbu and accompanies them.Steveo920 (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree it's a weird circumstance. The lack of them having the Anbu outfit and mask also nudges me towards them not quite being Anbu. When Sai became their sensei, the thing he noted is that their skills were suited to intelligence missions. Those do not all necessarily have to be Anbu missions. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:55, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Why do we have the opening of the article directly mentioning him joining the anbu, with a ref? Munchvtec (talk) 12:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Because despite probably giving such topics more thought than most people would, we're still human and sometimes thing do fall between the cracks. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Shikadai said "If I'm not mistaken he's in the Anbu" in the episode. Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe he meant Anbu as in the group, not the rank? "In the Anbu" seems more like it's referring to the group, not a rank. You don't say someone's "in the chūnin", you might say someone is a chūnin. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:22, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

You're playing semantics now. We know the other ranks aren't groups. Anbu has always been fundamentally different in that it is a rank, as well as a group. And since when do we edit articles based on "mights?" If the episode literally says he is in the Anbu, then why are we saying, no he isn't? Munchvtec (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You've pointed out he's been mentioned both as Anbu, and as chunin. To my knowledge, no character has ever been mentioned to be of two different ranks at once. Maybe a discussion about Naruto in the anime when he mentioned he never became chunin in a filler episode sort of saying he's both genin and Kage, but I'd have to double check. Semantics come to the table when trying to parse how to present contradictory information. The franchise saying one thing one time and another the next isn't our fault, but we do get stuck with the how to list it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yashamaru is one such example. Anbu has always taken precedent, and again, Anbu is a group as well as a rank. Your normal Shinobi rank does not up and disappear simply because you're Anbu. Munchvtec (talk) 01:19, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Totally forgot about him. Based on that, I take it you'd also extend the Anbu rank listing to Renga and Hako? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:16, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * My impression is that they were not referred to as such in the manner Hoki was, but if so, then yeah. Munchvtec (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I just rewatched 223. While Hoki does get focus, to me it did seem that whenever they mention Anbu, they do talk about the group, so Renga and Hako should be considered Anbu as well. Most particularly when Hoki thinks back Sai explaining they don't get much peer recognistion over the classified nature of most their missions. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, hold up. I just went back and rewatched 222 again, and when Denki is thinking about Hoki, he says Hoki "takes Anbu missions under Sai". This sounds like Steveo's comparison to Inojin and Chocho taking chunin missions over Shikadai already being chunin. It can go either way for me, as long as if they're Anbu, they're all Anbu together, and if they're not, they're not together as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Again, if you are in the anbu group, your rank is then anbu. The quote we were speaking of previously wasn't about simply taking anbu missions. The other two don't have to be anbu just because Hoki, and them simply taking anbu missions with Sai doesn't equate to being anbu either. Munchvtec (talk) 19:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Renga and Hako took missions under Sai along Hoki, which is why I'm considering them together. Hoki has been singled out in the sentence mentioned before because he's the only one who advanced to the finals. If Hoki is Anbu chūnin, Renga and Hako are Anbu genin. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Finally some more information. At the end of 273, when Sai explains that Hana's allies were arrested by Anbu, the only people shown detaining them on the boat are the members of Team 25. That unambiguously puts Renga and Hako as Anbu along Hoki. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)