Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180415211905

1) why are you talking about before the teleportation for? Minato can teleport his body into different positions than what it was in before he teleports. His arm was not fully extended pre-teleport but after the teleport it was fully extended with no signs that he swung his arm. So there was no distance covered by his arms post-teleport.

I would also like to point out that Obito made contact with Minato first but Minato never planned on hitting him with the Rasengan right then anyways so its whatever.

What are you talking about never breaking contact for the wrist grab? Obito cant make contact while phasing. He has to materialize before he touches anything but if he wasnt as fast as Minato he wouldnt be able to time his grab properly. The last panel clearly shows Obito's hand in grabbing position(lets call this "hovering"). He was fast enough to continue to follow Minatos arm while hovering his wrist until Minato finished passing through. Obito would have to move his arm at the same speed as Minato or else Minato would slip through his hand again. With his hand hovering he also has little to no room for error.

2) I already let the clone decoy go for a few reasons. Dodai told Naruto that the kind of attack he was going for wouldnt work. Naruto said that he knew and then said that Raikage are fast. He knew the initial attack wouldnt work and it was a set up for a sneak attack. No one said the attack was too slow.

Naruto himself said that Rai wouldnt be able to dodge his attack once he got up close did to land the Rasenshuriken, this backs up the notion that neither of the last 2 attempts reached a point where they were close enough to be considered point blank when Raikage dodged, and that range was the problem, not speed.

598 shows Naruto's chakra arm matching his arm movement anyways.

3) They leave the ground at the same speed will move at equal distances and that means they will reach their height at the same time and gravity will pull them back down at the same rate. AS SHOWN IN THE MANGA they travel about the same distance per jump and Naruto has put little to no distance between them. If Naruto was faster he would be traveling further per jump and putting distance between them. Motion lines when Naruto noticed the Gunbai coming through the rocks indicate he was still moving upwards so gravity certainly wasnt pulling him down.

Obito trying to get Naruto from behind is not the same as how Minato got him because as the manga shows the portal was a distance away and he had to travel to reach Naruto. Dont act like Obito's teleportation works the same as FTG in any situation

Dont act like jumping/dashing have no speed. Because when Naruto dashed/jumped at Kisame after first getting KCM Bee was all like "omfg the yellow flash!"