Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31337598-20180326183459/@comment-6769189-20180512081441

Thekillman wrote:

If Hiruzen dodges any such attack, then bye bye barrier. Tobirama raising his chakra was enough to crack the wall, there's no way the Sound 4 have the capability to contain even 1% of their full power. What i'm saying is, we shouldn't be so quick to suggest the first two hokages were revived super-weak when their power would be a direct threat to Orochi's plan. They weren't made to overpower him, they were made to humiliate him. To humiliate him they would still need to be stronger than him... orochimaru was still significantly stronger than Hiruzen so strength level inbetween the 2 of them isnt improbable.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Can Jiraiya break Bringer of Darkness? I dont think partner method works or the clones would have broken him out of it. He can with a summon.