Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26998824-20160216220701/@comment-7292165-20160217220758

@Gmanis You say Nagato's Pains can top Kakuzu's masks abilities. Provide reasons. As for ninjutsu. I did not say "all" of Jiraiya's jutsus revolve around toads, I said "half". I alao never said that Kakuzu being able to get out of the Dark Swamp means he "wins". I never said that Pain didn't say that if Jiraiya knew his secret, ge would have lost. What I did was emphasize on it. If Jiraiya knew that the source of the Six Paths of Pain was in a tower in Amegakure, then he would obviously go for Nagato himself while having the knowledge on their abilities, he'd fair better and change his battle tactics, to which he would be able to possibly kill a immobilized Nagato. I also like to point out that the Deva Path didn't even use his powers on Jiraiya either which would have changed the battle drastically. That was lucky for Jiraiya. So please get your facts straight.

@Jou I don't recall the fight saying he'd be in Sage Mode at the beginning of the fight. If he wanta to go into Sage Mode he'd have to find an opportunity to do it. Maybe summon Gamaken to fight for him or something like he did against Pain.