Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26381547-20150509000749/@comment-25093611-20150510082742

@Bambusek

yeah, kakashi was worse but i only used them as example to explain the difference of the two terms :)

@LSSJ4

this depends on ones preferences, if the movie was focused more on fighting instead of love-story i wouldnt mind that much either :]

PS: @The Ultimate3 agree to 100%

@Lulvielid The word asspull is so overused, and also the definition itself makes it impossible not to tag everything (in any story) as such.

not compeltly, the definion i posted shows that there are "things" that needed to be fulfilled in order to call something a asspull:

An Ass Pull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without Foreshadowing or dropping a Chekhov's Gun earlier on.

that means that MS and rinnegan arent really asspulls since they needed to exist in order to make the story to....well the story,

on the other hand, stuff like tenseigan or kaguya or "BZ being kaguyas will instead of madaras" or "IT turns eveyone into white zetsus and the real white zetsus arent failed clons of hashi" are all fitting into the definition, the stuff with "mastering kyuubi chakra allows KM" isnt one since the kyuubi existed since the beginning and it also increased his abilitys many times in the past (even if the fact of "chakra suddenly turning nice/warm" and "kyuubi becoming nice" felt forced) :]