Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-27660682-20160302033608

The frogs have leaping feats but they dont have any overwhelming speed feats that the sharingan cant track. The rinnegan doesn't have the same tracking ability the sharingan does. Unless those frogs are suggested to be faster than v2 raikage which would be absurd. Itachi's amaterasu quickly dispatched nagato's dog summons so those frogs are dead if it hits. Im not saying the frogs can't avoid it by other means, but they arent by simply leaping.

Itachi can apparently cast genjutsu without eye contact, his demonic illusions. Base Itachi beat orochimaru because of matchup. He can cast genjutsu which is something jiraiya cant do without sage mode, and we don't know how the fight jiriaya had with orochimaru went down. Orochimaru also doesn't have the firepower to deal with susanoo and the totsuka blade ends him.Base jiraiya also doesn't have a good way of dealing with susanno either.