Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-33286580-20180228084135

LegionZero wrote: Yes i bring up the anime because this sequence had minimal stare down moments. The longest being 3 or so seconds with action after action. Even at double speed it wouldnt take the amount of time you say it does.

Yes. it was a few seconds stare down, but each action had a stare down.

also, Obito, Kakashi and Naruto stopped all of their actions and looked at the two Biju charge up Bijudama, which went on for a minute.

nothing of sorts goes on in the manga.

Kishimoto is known to draw details where he wants to. if he wanted to showcase stare downs between them he would have made smaller panels specifically showing so.

also the fight in the manga were clearly going at the same time, not like in the anime where they waited for the others and watched by.

Anime does do think a bit slowly.

LegionZero wrote:

Dragonball characters all move at faster than light casually and it was confirmed a long time ago that the tournament would take only about 45 mins where as no such thing happened or ever happens in Naruto.

that was an example of time dilution. and even if you want to say that they fight at light speed it doess not change the fact that whole episode is only a minute in the tournament.

LegionZero wrote:

Naruto vs Raikage is a feat of cleverness for Naruto. None of his Sage Mode couldnt scratch him. Hell even KCM1 Naruto's attacks were brushed off. A tactic like that wouldnt work against a taijutsu master like Gai anyways.

what attacks?

he only used Rasenshuriken in KCM1 and it did damage. the only reason it couldnt the kind of damage it should because rasenshuriken is more about hurting on cellular level and the Edo body is made of dust and such. the Raikage was down for a few seconds.

naruto tried to use TBB but he failed.

from there on it was SM with Rasengan that finished the job.

and what do you mean the tactic Naruto used against the Raikage wont work on taijutsu experts? the raikage is the user of NinTaijutsu. it is essentially Taijutsu with use of Ninjutsu to buff up their physical stats, in a way similar to Gates, but not hurting themselves in the process.

LegionZero wrote:

Gai figured out a tactic for fighting Sharinhan users by looking at their feet.

Okay. but he was able to do so after he fought Kakashi over hundreds of times. indeed he is going to come up with a way.

Naruto formed his tactics by one look at the scar and shaky information from Hachibi.

LegionZero wrote: Naruto making limited clones due to his cloak being new doesnt is non-sense. KCM1 Naruto literally had to steal chakra from Kurama and he could make clones galore, but somehow with Kurama's full cooperation he is limited to one clone? Not buying it.

it actually does.

KCM1 naruto stole the chakra and was using only that chakra in that mode. it was like second chakra to his own. there was no other influnece. he used it as his own chakra and so could make as many as he could.

with KCM2, or Biju Mode, Naruto and Kurama combined their chakras as one. unlike KCM1 Naruto was having two chakras mixed togehter for the first time. they didnt have a perfect synchro. it is what made his use less number of clones and could only go for some time. as time progressed, their synchro became better and he could make more clones and it laste for much much longer.

in 611 even Kurama talks about him needing to build up and knead his chakra for next use and how their timing is getting better with each use

LegionZero wrote: Naruto vs Kurama fight is in his subconscious. That is where jinchuriki can go to meet with their Biju Or to telepathically communicate with one another. This has been covered a few times.

wrong.

Seals produces a dimension of their own, or are you saying that when a Kunai sealed in a scroll is sealed inside the subconscious of the scroll.

yes. they can talk telepathically and all and meet in a subconscious space, but the place Naruto fought the Kyubi was in a special place on turtle island where he could in real fight the biju inside the seal. a special place was made for it. they didnt go around fighting just around anywhere.