Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-34194151-20180908041315

Obito tried to grab minato from behind and minato reacted. Obito had every advantage there, minato being focused on the nine tails not to mention not even looking in obito's direction. He still turned around and had his arm moving through obito's head before obito's arm could even move any siginifican distance. OBito mentally reacted not physically to the kunai going through his head. He then took advantage of minato's already moving arm and surprise. it's alot harder to change directions immeidately once you have already started. the same reason why if you begin a kick you can't instantly bring your leg back down, it takes time.

The reason I feel this is a bit different is that minato let the raikage get close, and once raikage was transitioning into his punch, minato 's arms were by his side, kunai still in hand, on page 14 of chapter 542. then he flickered/released the kunai, as his hand wasn't already committed to another physical action. Minato already knew he had control of the situation, you even called it showboating once, so raikage not being able to smash his nose in can simply be attributed to the near instantenous action that is FTG, whereas minato's own reaction was stunted against obito because he literally had never seen his hand slip through someone before. It was unexpected. Raikage wasn't fast enough to outright blitz minato, but the same can be said for obito.

As for FTG level 2, I didn't deny that minato was faster than raikage in that moment, but as I said, it's different for minato. Minato was not using shunshin there. Shunshin requires you to be on the ground and runnning, and minato can't fly. Minato was in mid-air, and he simply had better control over his body since he was free to change his orientation. His better control allowed him to defeat the raikage, the same way he defeated obito. That is a feat of FTG + striking speed+ dexterity, not shunshin. The hallmark of minato's striking speed with FTG level 2 however is the fact that obito couldn't turn on his kamui in time, which doesn't require dexterity but a simple mental reaction.

As for raikage being unable to "outrun" the kunai, will let's break that down a bit. Minato simply released the kunai by raising his arm in the milliseconds before raikage could smash his nose in. We can see that there are barely any movement lines on the kunai. so it was hovering in mid-air so to speak and had not fully succumed to the effects of free fall yet. Logically, raikage's v2 speed which can pressure a MS user, shouldn't be slower than a kunai that's simply hovering in the air. The fact that the raikage barely moved in that panel either indicates he was slowing to a stop, or simply indicates we are misinterpreting the bullet time, as the way I picture it, minato teleported to the tree and then teleported to the kunai in quick succession, grabbed it and was about to successfully hit ayy before ayy could restablish his body balance, which is a reasonable feat given that we know minato is really fast all-around, but more importantly his attack is being supplemented by an instantenous change in position. This makes further sense when we see killer bee's tentacle catch up, as his tentacle shouldn't be faster than a dude who can evade amaterasu while he is in v2, when Ayy already had a headstart. You would have to say that killer bee's tentacle is faster than v2 Ayy, which wouldn't make sense. So, Ayy was actually slowing down when minato teleported to the kunai, presumably to try and change directions and start a new blitz. but before he could, minato got the drop on him, and killer bee had the foresight to start sending his tentacle probably the instant he saw minato teleport to the tree.

Minato is faster than hashi in shunshin/running speed, so that is a better reference point for obito's running speed, we can then say that obito is faster than hashirama in running speed, based on the claim that obito is as fast minato in running speed. but we have never seen V2 raikage directly referenced to those characters, all we have is edo madara saying that V2 raikage is "fast". Basically, I noticed that combat speed/striking speed is being referenced as a point to say one is faster in running speed, which is not the case. Just because you are faster in running speed doesn't mean you have better striking speed, reactions, etc. You can be better than someone in one category, but slower in another.