Talk:Yang Release

Yang Release Icon?
Hi there guys, i was wondering. Shouldn't we have a nature icon for Yang Release like we have for Fire, Water, Wood, Ice and Yin? - KenjiNitari.

We do. See infoboxes at Nagato, Madara, or the Sage of the Six Paths. :) --GoDai (talk) 09:57, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Then where is it? Everytime i go to the page i only see a pivture of Naruto in Controlled Kyuubi form. Where is the icon? - KenjiNitari.

The icons are no longer put in the actual Release articles because of the new, non-optional Wikia skin that was shoved in everyone's faces. When we add the icons, they'll get on top of other images and text. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:55, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

I was just looking between the Yin Release and Yang Release articles and noticed the differences between the pictures. Does the above issue with the Wikia skin still make it a problem to use a different picture? The Yin Release article seems to have a nice one, and you'd expect a similar icon coming to this one. Seeing a picture of Naruto was
 * We use the icon image there because we don't have any other image that we know is of a Yin Release technique, whereas we know that Naruto's current shroud is of yang chakra, because Minato sealed the fox's yin chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:14, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * But is Yang chakra the same as Yang Release? —ShounenSuki (talk 21:17, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll be very surprised if techniques which employ Yang Release end up not using Yang chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:19, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * * shrugs* We also got positive/negative and black/white chakra to confuse everything. I'm not surprised if it all turns out to be different aspects of chakra… —ShounenSuki (talk 21:25, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't oppose changing the image to the Yang icon, I simply don't oppose using the current one either. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:53, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it would be better to play it safe, but I guess we should wait until other people say their thing before making any changes to the status quo. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:29, July 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm confused. I would assume "fire chakra" is Fire Release, but then again, who the fudge knows. In terms of the picture...again, I do not know. I want to say Yang chakra is Yang Release, but because Kishimoto likes to make things confusing to follow I don't know.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 23:01, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yōton
How come Yang Release and Lava Release are both called "Yōton". Is this a mistake or is that just the transaltion?
 * It's the translation. There are two Jinton, too. Both times, the Kanji are different. Seelentau 愛議 13:46, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Naruto a Yang Release user?
Shouldn't Naruto be added to the list of Yang Release users? I mean he has been using Yang chakra and even Yamato and B said he can use it. Just asking.--Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:17, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is using Yang chakra the same as using Yang Release? —ShounenSuki (talk 16:23, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nay it is not, just in case you were wondering.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 16:26, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was just a thought--Shock Dragoon (talk) 16:31, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not?--Spcmn (talk) 00:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Because Naruto is using the beast's Yang chakra which is all the beast has it isn't the same a moulding/transforming chakra to produce Yang release . Naruto uses the chakra in its raw form so it's not a release.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 03:47, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarify this to me.--Spcmn (talk) 05:14, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

is yang release taijutsu
mizukage says yin is genjutsu which is not physical so yang being physical  would mean it could be taijutsu (74.141.196.236 (talk) 16:20, September 24, 2011 (UTC))
 * I don't think so friend. Yin release is used to create form out of nothingness which is what illusions (genjutsu) mostly are. Yang Release gives life to those forms. It's not as black and white as physical and non-physical I think.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 16:25, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

YANG RELEASE:RASENGAN?
Shouldnt the rasengan techniques using yang chakra be considered yang release, and since naruto uses them he should be a yang release user right 121.96.170.98 (talk) 10:48, July 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * It uses Yang-natured chakra. Not Yang-Release. There is no transformation of the chakra hence no release. They're two different things.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:35, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with the links
I am unable to open the link in the end of the page about the - List of Yang Release techniques/ - List of Yang Release users. It's just me or these pages don't exist?--JK88 (talk) 14:48, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Read the Homepage.—

Naming Issues
I've been having people tell me that Yang Release is actually "Light Release" and that the wiki is bad with naming. I'm wondering, does the translated Anime call it Light Release or Yang Release? I trust the wiki's translation 100%, just wondering where this is coming from. Skarrj (talk) 06:42, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm aware that Viz Manga refers to it as "Light Style", but what does the translated anime refer to it as? Skarrj (talk) 06:43, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dubbed episodes have not yet reached the point where the term we call Yang Release was used. The only official English translations I know of that have used this at some point are the Viz manga, which you already mentioned, and the English subs we get from crunchyroll, which call it Light Style as well. Other than that, nothing, those people are just haters, and you know them: haters gonna hate. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:45, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

speculation
When was it ever stated that it's "yang chakra/release" that affects the wood/trees when Naruto is nearby in chakra mode?--Elveonora (talk) 19:26, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Outright, never, but this is kinda like Storm Release. We know Minato sealed Kurama's Yin chakra away with Dead Demon Consuming Seal, and put the Yang chakra in Naruto. Naruto now has unrestricted access to Kurama's chakra. Yang Release deals with vitality, physical energy, breathing life into stuff. All the stuff Naruto's tailed beast mode does to Wood Release. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:43, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but still, it's a bit vague, sounds more certain than it should. Ever thought of the possibility that it's Naruto's own chakra that affects the trees? In Chakra Mode he has his own signature, his chakra was noted to be "warm and bright" and being Uzumaki and all, strong lifeforce. It really makes no sense, so if he had had the Yin part instead, what would have happened to the wood? That would mean that with full Kurama in him, the wood would turn alive and start moving around? As much as I give attention to the story/plot... I really think it isn't a case with any sealing/yang or **** at all. I have re-read the chapters and it only mention lifeforce, that's something Uzumaki possess, doesn't necessarily mean Yang chakra/release--Elveonora (talk) 22:09, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yamato said it when they were in the Tailed Beast Temple though. If Naruto's chakra in that mode was not concentrated Yang, then more than likely, nothing would happen to the wood or Zetsus. It's all in keeping with the fact that Yang is connected to "breathing life" into things--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 01:01, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yet that still is speculative. People simply made a connection between Naruto having Kurama's Yang chakra, it's life giving properties and trees growing. That's quite big of an assumption to make. EDIT: I don't ever remember environments reacting in such way to Naruto when using Kurama's chakra BEFORE he attained Chakra Mode. The above option of mine is much more probable, yet still speculative. Thus better than providing a possibly incorrect "information" simply is to remove it. Kurama's chakra is the very opposite of "life giving" it's malicious, poisonous, foul etc.--Elveonora (talk) 02:52, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * You do know that Naruto's tailed beast mode, is a highly concentrated and unfettered use of Kurama's chakra right? Hence why the dramatics were added to it. Yamato literally said something along the lines of "Amazing the chakra in this form is affecting the Mokuton".c 505 p 8 If that is not a clear line towards an example of the chakra nature's "life-giving" - for want of a better word - properties I don't know what is. (see Yang's definition) There's literally 0 speculation about this, it came directly from the horse's mouth which he later even reiterated through B. v 545 p 14 Keep in mind the fact that Naruto shelves his own chakra to enter this mode.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 08:03, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

general consensus
Is somehow that Naruto's chakra mode is made of yang chakra, first:
 * 1) it has nothing with yang release, that image AGAIN shouldn't be in the article at all, yang chakra is well, chakra and release is a brand of actual techniques.
 * 2) unless someone can provide me or rather us a source, all translations I have read state that it gives off life force, no mention of any yang or ****
 * 3) since there's no confirmation of life force being yang chakra that I'm aware of, how can we or rather you act all professional and as "the most correct and complete naruto website" yet pass on such a speculation, well, I shouldn't blame you, 90% of fandom believe it to be true, but this website shouldn't be based on beliefs, but facts.
 * 4) we don't even know what yang chakra is, we shouldn't pretend we do
 * 5) just because Minato sealed Kurama's yang chakra into Naruto (never explained what it does and how it affected the beast other than making it shrink) doesn't mean the cloak is made of yang chakra. That's a ridiculous conclusion to make based on a non-existent connection, a phantom one.
 * 6) using logic, let's slow down for a while and think of what would have happened if Minato had sealed the yin part inside of Naruto instead... ... ... WE DON'T KNOW? Unbelievable conclusion, right? Because we don't know what happened with the yang one either. Under normal circumstances, TB have both yin and yang chakras most likely, so would Naruto loose the tree growing thingy if he gets the yin part back? If no, then that means it's not yang thingy but an unique trait of Kurama's as a whole, rather.
 * 7) once it gets confirmed, feel free to have it there stated as a fact
 * 8) I'm done--Elveonora (talk) 10:35, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

@Omni, didn't realize that I have deleted his comment, how could that possibly happen? 0_o Anyway, point done, just because yang release is used to breathe life or what **** and possibly reincarnation and medical ninjutsu also fall under the group, doesn't mean that yang chakra makes plants grow. It was stated to be life force and there isn't any confirmation for the two to be one and the same. At least please put up a "may contain unconfirmed or false info" warning in there. We know literary nothing about yin and yang chakras except in case of Kurama, it/he having them separated, for that matter, it's more than likely that Kurama still has yin chakra, not all of it was taken away, since going by the balance concept, yin can't exist without yang, it would collapse otherwise, most likely since it was done by Shinigami, Kurama has a similar curse upon it as Orochimaru had, and its yin chakra cannot regenerate back completely, but that's not much related to the problem, just a note. Unless Kishimoto himself writes it or at least hints that there is a connection between yangish shrank fox being sealed in him and plants growing, it shouldn't be there. I know from where does this speculation stem, Hashirama's Wood Release IS responsible due to the "source of life" thingy and somehow people came to the conclusion that yang must be involved :-/--Elveonora (talk) 19:41, April 22, 2013 (UTC)