Talk:God Tree

debut
Its debut would be when Kaguya with the fruit is shown I suppose--Elveonora (talk) 19:53, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would say so. The thing Obito summoned was a recreation of the Shinju, or rather the Ten-Tails in the likeness of the Shinju, since the original Shinju didn't have the Rinnegan (also the thing Obito summoned had briefly co-existed with the real Ten-Tails Madara had revived). So yeah, no disagreement from me. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg (Talk) (Contribs) 20:00, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's not what I mean. I'm wondering if the debut is the chapter in which its infobox picture comes from, or the Kaguya mural--Elveonora (talk) 20:05, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agreed with you, the mural was it's debut. -- WindStar7125  WindStar7125 Task.svg (Talk) (Contribs) 21:13, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hagoromo's devut tho is chapter 670, not the mural Madara showed to Obito, so I think the Shinju should be treated the same. In which chapter does its infobox picture come from?--Elveonora (talk) 21:22, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

picture
Do we have one uploaded of its altered form? Also should we add Rinnegan as its power, since it had it when made by Obito?--Elveonora (talk) 20:59, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah. The original Shinju didn't have a Rinnegan, the Ten-Tails did. Even though that TBM replica Obito summoned was labeled as the Shinju by Gyuki, it wasn't the real deal, as it co-existed with the real Ten-Tails Madara later summoned. The thing Obito summoned was just that, a Tailed Beast Mode replica. Last time I checked, the Shinju isn't a Tailed Beast, the Ten-Tails is. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg (Talk) (Contribs) 21:10, August 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Altered or not, it was still the Shinju. I mean, Kakashi wasn't born with Sharingan either yet it's listed as his KKG. So even though the Shinju got Rinnegan from Kaguya/Ten-Tails, it has had itm so...--Elveonora (talk) 21:20, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

regarding the Shinju's present location
Considering that Madara absorbed it, it should have become one again with the Ten-Tails. But we were told that God: Nativity of a World of Trees are roots of the Shinju. If that's true, then it's still there?--Elveonora (talk) 11:33, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * The God Tree that appeared during the war is just a form the Ten-Tails took to absorb Chakra. It's not the original tree. This version of Shinju is just like the Rabbit.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 11:44, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Except that wasn't stated, it's only something we assumed. The tree Obito made was in fact called Shinju--Elveonora (talk) 11:46, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * If there is something that was stated, it is that the Shinju is the final form of the TT, yet it was also stated that the Shinju is the origin of the TT. The TT always had some tree-like features and that's not weird considering its origin. The Shinju that appeared during the war bloomed from a bud-like thing in the middle of the TT's stomach.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 11:59, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * That was never stated though.--Elveonora (talk) 12:06, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * What is the thing that was never stated?--MERCURIOUS (talk) 12:10, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * That the Shinju is the final form of the TT--Elveonora (talk) 12:15, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gyuuki said that.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 12:18, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Then I suppose you shouldn't have a problem providing exact chapter and page where it took place--Elveonora (talk) 12:21, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Chapter 646, 5th page. When B was followed by a big number of roots.--MERCURIOUS (talk) 12:26, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes and Gyuki, Kurama, Obito, Madara hell even Hagoromo thought that the Ten-Tails = Shinju, before the big plot-twist. Gyuki's statement was wrong, since it didn't know better.--Elveonora (talk) 12:30, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

The original tree, the one with the fruit and all, doesn't exist anymore. It merged with Kaguya to become the TT. Ever since then, it's been that. The tree in the war is not the exact same tree that stood years ago and bore a fruit. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:37, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * I know it isn't exactly the same, but what Obito summoned was a recreation of the Shinju from the Ten-Tails' body, not a Tailed Beast Mode or the "final"/"true" form of the Ten-Tails--Elveonora (talk) 12:42, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's another form the TT can assume. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:47, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * But the Ten-Tails was still inside of Obito when he made the tree. I see it more like Obito taking a piece of the Ten-Tails' body and making the tree, but that makes it the Ten-Tails no more than its drones are and it surely ain't a Tailed Beast Mode. Also the reason why I brought this up is that even though Madara absorbed the Shinju replica and Kaguya got sealed, the roots which were stated to be of the Shinju are still there and I wonder how come--Elveonora (talk) 12:57, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

rinnegan
why is shinju listed with rinnegan KG...the 10tails has it not shinju...the tree that obito formed was a form of 10 tails not shinju...shinju in its original form stopped existing after kaguya merged with it...the TT's rinnegan icon should also be changed to the red tomoe one...as it is also listed in rinnegan's article too... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 14:03, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't know wheter the Shinju had it or not, but since Kaguya (and hereby the Ten-Tails') power all came from the Shinju, I fail to see the Tree not possessing the Rinnegan.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:13, September 1, 2014 (UTC)