Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-5413572-20141206200019/@comment-26112212-20141229205911

Setras wrote: I thought Hagaromo's "third eye" was just a tattoo or some such? Anyway, I don't know about the Tailed Beasts' chakra being what gave Indra the Rinnegan- for one thing, the actual Tailed Beasts weren't created until well after Indra was born, so the Ten Tails' chakra would've needed to be responsible. The idea certainly has merit- with the Ten Tails basically being Kaguya, and each grandchild getting one of her capabilities, it would provide a catalyst- but their abilities could just as easily come from Hagaromo directly. Plus, we again run into the problem of why the Rinnegan would weaken to the Sharingan- it makes at least some sense if we go purely by (for want of a better term) genetics, with the Rinne Sharingan weakening to the Rinnegan and the Rinnegan then weakening still further to the Sharingan. If we bring the Ten Tail's chakra into the mix, though, reason would dictate that it would've strengthened the Rinnegan in Indra, not denatured it. So how exactly would the Ten Tails' chakra have brought about the Sharingan? I guess the Ten-Tails power could have only contributed in dividing it's own Rinne Sharingan power in Hagoromo and later in Indra, it could have strengthened Indra's Sharingan but it was not shown, I guess Hagoromo as a child had third eye it looks like tattoo but it is unknown, Kaguya in her early depiction had the third eyelid closed and her third eye wasn't shown until after Madara absorbed Ten-Tails and casted Infinite Tsukuyomi, Kaguya's Rinne Sharingan was shown after that so it must mean that after consuming the fruit and later merging with ten-tails resulted in Rinne Sharingan on her forehead so I suppose it was not Kaguya's eye but something like Gōkeigan third eye in dormant form so there is a possibility it turned into that i.e., after consuming the fruit she gained extra power which turned her third eye into Rinne Sharingan, her Byakugan might be her original eyes, it is unknown that her two eyes were just white coloured normal eyes which later gained the power of Byakugan after eating fruit. Concerning those powers may be it's just me thinking that its just a coincidence, the elder son gets the chakra fruit's power and younger son gets original power of their parents like in the case of Hagoromo, Indra gaining the Ten-Tails eye in diluted form and in the case of Hamura and Asura, Hamura got his mother's Byakugan and Asura- well he didn't get Ten-Tails eyes in diluted forms. And I'm sure the power doesn't divide into something like 50-50, It's just Kishimoto's logic that the first generation would get Rinnegan and Second generation would get Sharingan along with tomoe from Rinne Sharingan, because it was not possible to divide three dojutsu equally among two sons. I'm just going with what might have happened, Hagoromo should have Rinne Sharingan just like Hamura got his Byakugan from his mother but in reality Hagoromo didn't get that eye, similarly Indra should have Rinnegan from his father if the power really equally divided but it's not that case so the Ten-Tails chakra inside Hagoromo did the same thing as the power inside Kaguya did-it only distributed power more specifically 'divided' and it is the loss of power and not strengthening because "the power is it's own", which isn't helping Sharingan to strengthen but Sharingan was formed from Rinne Sharingan. I only explained that Sharingan's red colour is from Rinne Sharingan.

I view Hamura as having gotten the Byakugan (or in my alternative, the Tenseigan) and Shikotsumyaku, with his descendants (on Earth) becoming the Hyuga and Kaguya clans. Hagaromo got the Rinnegan and her powerful life force, with his descendants of course being the Uchiha, Senju, and (through the latter) Uzumaki clans. Yes I also thought of that as well given that Hamura has more chakra reserve his Byakugan should turn into Tenseigan, and he and the rest might have gone to the moon while some stayed on earth but it is unclear whether everyone went to the moon or not, I'm just saying this because I read somewhere that Hamura went to the moon with rest of his clans, If it is true then they came back to earth and became the Hyuga clan, and also Kaguya clan.

According to Kishimoto:

Rinne Sharingan -> Rinnegan -> Sharingan

Byakugan x ∞ = Tenseigan

Here's my alternative:

Rinne Sharinagan=Rinnegan + Sharingan

Byakugan->Byakugan(no tail beast influence)

Byakugan -> Tenseigan (Chakra/Tail Beast influence)(not only limited to Otsutsuki clan but anyone in general)

Your Alternative:

Gōkeigan = Tenseigan + Rinnegan

Tenseigan = Hyuga (Byakugan) + Otsutsuki

Rinnegan = Indra (Sharingan) + Asura

As a possibility. Let's see how the story progresses, I don't think "Total eye" or something new like that would be explained anywhere or in mini series. But what you did has logic that Rinne Sharingan would create unnecessary problem so your approach towards seem acceptable. Also on a side not I have some information about the Tenseigan from various sources, I'm not sure about this but anyway this is it- The Otsutsuki clan interbred among themselves and this resulted in unusual eyes and there were only limited Byakugan on the moon and the last of the descendant Toneri was born without eyes because his parents eyes were also donated for Tenseigan altar and My guess is that Hyuga clan came back to earth and settled probably before thousand years and were preserving their eye so that no one can steal their eyes. So after thousand years blind Toneri used Hanabi's eyes and combined with chakra of Byakugan eyes which were stored to make Tenseigan, and also because the Tenseigan were not his eyes he lost it's powers. I think Boruto and Himawari would later develop the eyes Tenseigan, it just looks like normal eyes but it after they grow up they could get similar powers or even greater than that because just like Hagoromo's children were brn with unique eyes, Naruto's children could have Tenseigan but it looks like it's in a dormant form.