Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30168027-20161030085406/@comment-25093611-20161104114904

Ninjachris wrote: @Greatestsin but how can you use a kage amount for example, when you don't know, again the chakra argument just cannot hold up. because kage amount isnt little but in the scale of current naruto/sasuke/momo/madara/kaguya/double MS kakashi it is really small, the device could have even absorbed 5 times of kage amount but it wouldnt have mattered for naruto... Ninjachris wrote: Where was it shown that naruto was beaten unconscious, didn't you clearly see upon sasuke's arrival a weakened naruto having chakra extracted from him that clearly what had him weakened " in addition to tanking that massive attack". how could they take naruto with them if he was still able to fight back? Ninjachris wrote: Naruto fought on par with and without clones, and shadow clones is naruto pet ninjutsu, it is what he his known for most second to kuruma. Uchias use sharingan to their advantage in a fight so do byakugan users and almost all ninjas use shadow clones. So what's difference if naruto uses shadow clones. i point to waht asianreaper said again and only naruto uses shadow clones like that, as for the difference: like i said, one is a inherent ability like having a freaking arm while the other is a skill that was learned...

i could on the other hand agree with naruto without clones is = sasuke without sharingan... Ninjachris wrote: Naruto didn't use big techs in the beginning of the fight either, apart from the basic chakra cloak. but the difference is that sasuke only used the big techs after gettign chakra, and that means naruto had the caoability to use big techs the whole time, mostly he didnt use it since momo would have absorbed it... Ninjachris wrote: And how could the punch with the most visible effect, do little or no damage, that makes no sense whatsoever. yes, it doesnt make sense, but who are we to decide? manga showed that naruto suddenly had the strength to do such a punch (while previously neither of them had enough strength anymore) and sasuke was able to brush it off (while previously he and naruto beat the sh*t out of each other with normal kicks :/) Ninjachris wrote: Naruto chapter 696 page 6. Naruto didn't want to kill sasuke he met force with equal force to nullify. he met him with everything he got, and "not wanting to kill" and "not being serious" are two different things, naruto said himself that he wouldnt hold back, 696 page 16 sasuke asks if he is serious now, and page 17 naruto says that if it comes to battle he really wants to win against naruto, ergo, he was serious...