Talk:Jiraiya

Wind
I remember during his first encounter with Naruto, Jiraiya used Wind Release to blow him of. Although it was anime only. I checked Paths 05:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * To me it looked like a slower version of Body Flicker Technique, something most ninja can use. Jacce 13:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Rank & Classification
When was it stated that Jiraiya's highest rank was jōnin and when was he classified as S-rank? --ShounenSuki 22:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Dude... if he was no Kage (which he wasn't) he was most probably a jonin. And S-class is not an official classification (bingo book is only for criminals, and one can be S-class yet no criminal), but rather a sign of extraordinary strength. I am somehow sure that Jiraiya was no chunin, too.
 * Actually, as far as I know, S-class has only been used for criminals. I have yet to see evidence that any extremely powerful shinobi can be considered S-class.
 * Judging by the uniform he wore in his flashback at the end of Part 1, he was a member of the ANBU. This means it isn't even necessary for him to have ever been a chūnin, let alone a jōnin.
 * I would like some direct evidence of either claim, or I'm going to remove those statements from the articles. --ShounenSuki 00:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems very strange that S-class rank only applies to powerful criminals. I mean akatsuki members possesses kage level skill thus you can't just say that they are on Jonin level. Because Many jonins are weak (compared to them) as many times been shown in the anime. Extraordinary powerful ninjas like Jiraiya should without doubt be classified as S-Class. To rank him as Jonin or Anbu would be a joke. He was just beyond those things.


 * There is no need to have a classification for extremely powerful non-criminal shinobi. Criminals need to be caught. To efficiently catch criminals, one needs classify them (or else you get genin going after people like Orochimaru while jōnin waste their time with small rabble). Extremely powerful non-criminal shinobi don't need to be officially classified. If an indication of their power is necessary, one can use an informal classification like Kage-level, or something similar.
 * Still, no matter what the reasoning behind it is, the fact of the matter stands. There has never been, to my knowledge, a non-criminal shinobi that was called S-rank. Until Jiraiya is stated to have been S-class, his article shouldn't say he was. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

ok (thumbs up) tx for the explanation.

Hunt for Three Tails
Is there a reason this is included? It's only filler information so I don't understand why it's needed. Though I suppose to ask this would be to ask why all the other anime fillers are included in descriptions...but really why is this necessary to include? Revan46 14:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Just because you don't think it isn't necessary to include filler arcs doesn't mean that's true for all opinions. There has never been a valid reason given for excluding filler arcs from pages so we document them. This wiki is dedicated to the entire official naruto universe, and like it or not that includes filler arcs. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Feb 2, 2009 @ 09:25 (UTC)

Special Ranking
The Special Ranking are for different missin that they can aquire but Jiraiya is in a Sannin Rank and in Naruto Ultimate Ninja 2 : The Phantom Forretress he has no classification at all!!!!!!!!! by Joboyaltar

TOAD
BEFORE AGAINST PAIN....JIRAIYA COMES OUT GEROTORA AND HAS GEROTORA GO TO NARUTO'S STOMACH... IS GEROTORA GO TO NARUTO'S STOMACH?>????????????
 * Jiraiya sends Gerotora to Naruto in case of Jiraiya's death. If Gerotora has presented himself to Naruto is still unknown. Jacce 10:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Great Fireball
When did Jiraiya use Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique? --ShounenSuki 20:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * He used it during his battle with orochimaru and kabuto with gamabunta


 * I take it you're talking about the Fire Release technique he used to ignite Gamabunta's toad oil to create the Fire Release: Toad Oil Flame Bullet. That was never said to be the Great Fire Ball Technique. I'm going to remove from the list it until someone has proof he used it. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but you can't leave it as some fake "Fireball" move, which isn't even official. It should be left as the Great Fireball technique IMO.


 * That "fake" "Fireball" move is Fire Release: Flame Bullet, an official technique Jiraiya used against Konan. Even if it was fake, it wouldn't change the fact that Jiraiya never used the Great Fireball. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Apologies. I was just reading back and saw the "Fireball" move, then immediately came here to reply. - Lou Diamonds