Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36006024-20180926134241/@comment-6769189-20181007111355

BlazeRelease said:

I don't think Naruto runs at his top speed every single step. So far it's in a flash. Itachi, Obito, and many other characters have shown to run along and go up against Naruto without any issues, it's probably because he doesn't he uses his top speed in a flash like that body transfer or something. The biggest bad of the series at that point and you think he wasnt going to charge full speed?

Naruto was conversating with Itachi

Obito is actually stupidly strong and fast. The fandom likes to underate him but he was keeping up with, reacting to, dodging etc etc KCM Naruto, Gai, Kakashi, and Bee all at once. Saying Obito could run alongsode Naruto isnt a downplay on Naruto, its a testament to Obito.

BlazeRelease said:

Anyways, the point is MS Sasuke was able to dodge Bee's straight attack in mid air, which he commented that Only A(the second fastest person) could. I dont recall ot ever being a thing that B was second in speed only to A. Sasuke couldnt dodge B's blades while in base. In fact Sasuke noted that he could only properly see him because he was moving in straight line.

BlazeRelease said:

He then dodged an head on attack against A and landed a hit on his chest. A wasnt using his full speed at that moment. Literally in the next panel A bodied Sasuke and he couldnt react at all. Once he started kicking his speed up a notch Sasuke couldnt keep up with physical movements anymore and started using 360 defense.

BlazeRelease said:

So, with the improved eyes, the boosted powers, and the fluent moves of the EMS and the fact that Madara doesn't have the EMS, the eye he used against KCM2 Naruto, and the great help it grants him with the fluent movements and predicting skills, it's not that surprising for me to see it. Madara had Sage Mode, which has arguably better predictive capabilities than the Sharingan.

Also Madara had Rinnegan active and the manga made it fairly clear that Madara cant use Rinnegan and EMS abilities at the same time. BlazeRelease said:

Just saying it could be, since there's no explaination on his Senjetsu. Note that Ten Tails Jinchuriki automatically absorb Senjutsu, and the only difference between a ten tails jinchuriki and Hashirama are the Eyes. Not having an explaination doesnt mean that there is even a possibility that Hashirama has some auto-Senjutsu abilities. His senjutsu is most likely self-taught because nothing in the canon states that he has any biological Senjutsu related stuff going on

There is a huge difference between Juubichuriki and Hashi's Sage Mode. One involves becoming the host of sentient beast whos chakra is composed of 6 Paths chakra and natural energy and is as powerful as a planets worth of energy. Hashirama balances out his chakra with natural energy

BlazeRelease said:

They had Hashi cells, and sealed them with a special jutsu after all, and the Gezo Statue that becomes part of their body, helps them to handle the Chakra, from what I know. ... and. This doesnt lend credence to the theory that wood release and Bijuu chakra are somehow incompatable.

BlazeRelease said:

Was he? He died is 1SWW. I always took that as he died in battle considering he wasnt all that old.

BlazeRelease said:

I never stated that it doesn't conrtibute, but Sasuke's chakra contribution is the main point of his EMS. Flat out false. Not sure how much clearer Kishimoto has to be. Sasuke said Itachi's eyes were making him stronger. Not that Sasuke's chakra were making Itachi's eyes stronger.

Sasuke achieved EMS because of Itachi's eyes and power. Sasuke could never have EMS without Itachi. Unless he got Fugaku's, but even then Sasuke would need someone elses power added to his to reach the next level.

BlazeRelease said:

I meant the TB, it does grant him an unbelieveble hax jutsu to seal anyone. TB is part of Susanoo? Meaning that is Itachi's ability, awakened from his own power. Hax or not.

BlazeRelease said:

The Snake Sage, and it doesn't seem to be that much, considering all it matters is a large amount of chakra and will power. Everything after that is just being fortunate enough for the Toads to bring them over to teach them Nope. Snake sage users have to train as well. The Snake biting them and forcing Sage Mode is to see if he will accept them as students.

BlazeRelease said:

That is Gaara's ability post-Shukkaku extraction. I meant Gaara's ability needing sand to be near by, he carries sand afterall, and his chakra is influenced by Shukaku's chakra. Rasa, in the manga, attributed it to his mothers love and the novels say its magnet release.

BlazeRelease said:

The same way, I'm stating that Sasuke's EMS doesn't give him a power boost. Not in the way you imagine it to be.

It's simple, Sasuke's EMS increases/boosts his chakra and power permanently. It isn't a temperary boost like a chakra mode. But a permanent boost to his body. It's a sort of transformation than a mode, like you imply it to be, the use of EMS after that is just for Susanoo. Temporary or perminent its still a power boost granted Itachi's power.

BlazeRelease said:

The Clay is an external source from his KG, it doesn't grant him an power boost, but he needs the clay which he seems to carry, to use his jutsus. Deidara makes the clay explode. Its how Explosion release works.

BlazeRelease said:

While Minato uses his Kunai for most of his FTG tricks, the Kunai's aren't exactly summoned or made by him with jutsus. And? Its not like the kunai are power/stat boosters. They are regular objects.

BlazeRelease said:

He doesn't. But he does have a Wood Release jutsu that allows him to absorb chakra from, the Wood Dragon or something. It absorbs chakra but it isnt stated boost Hashirama's.

BlazeRelease said:

The Five Kage managed to catch him in a tight spot even with his 25 foot Susanoo and Rinnegen and Wood Release. They might have had better chances with him if he didn't have unlimited stamina, immortality, and the Rinnegen, which Hashi doesn't have. Tsunade hit him once. If he didnt have unlimited stamina he would have busted out the Perfect Susanoo and no-diffed them much earlier in the fight.

Btw Hashirama was still able to beat down Madara even with all those boosts while the were both Edo.

BlazeRelease said:

No, he can still be killed by these characters. Highly doubt Sasuke or Onoki can win but this is hardly a retort.

BlazeRelease said:

No, he didn't explicitly state that. He said he feels Itachi's chakra and then further on states that he already feel himself getting stronger. And you believe these arent related because?

BlazeRelease said:

I didn't see any scene in the fight that Karin actually helped Sasuke survive or even anything to help. When Sasuke and Danzo stabbed eachother Karin healed Sasuke. Then served as a pretty good distraction/sacrifice to finish off Danzo.