Talk:Tsunade/Archive 3

Debut
Should it be mentioned (in the trivia if nothing else) that Tsunade's first actual appearance is (in the anime) episode 72, in a flashback of the Third Hokage's?ZPRN (talk) 01:12, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Cameo--58.106.27.95 (talk) 07:40, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Be noted of the dates. --Ilnarutoanime26 (Talk-Contribs.-Links) 07:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Tsunade's Chakra Enhanced Strength
In her article it tells when she is using her raw and CE strength I was just wondering how do you know when Tsunade is using her raw strength or her Chakra Enhanced Strength, is it being judged by the size of the crater caused possibly? Also, I was wondering how she used her Chakra enhanced strength to lift Gamambunta's sword, if the Chakra Enhanced Strength works by gathering chakra and releasing it at the point of impact I was wondering how the Chakra Enhanced Strength was used to lift things. I would really appreciate someone explaining this to me. Thankyou IamJakuhoRaikoben (talk) 16:06, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

She obviously can keep it in the muscles etc. instead of releasing it - after all, we've never seen the CE strength show externally, except perhaps for a slight glow, which is probably Tsunade protecting her skin from tearing under the pressure. 212.205.3.50 (talk) 03:38, March 4, 2011 (UTC)ChrisD

Is this a jutsu?
When Naruto challenged Tsunade to a fight and he came at her with a Rasengan, she used one pointer finger to strike the ground and made a crevice that he got stuck in. Is this a specific jutsu or just Chakra Enhanced Strength? Sammyfan98 (talk) 02:58, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * she used her superhuman strength it wasn't a jutsu--Cerez365 (talk) 03:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Eye Color?
Are we really sure that Tsunade's eyes are brown? I look at them in the anime and I keep thinking that her eyes are amber or possibly tawny, but not brown. Did Kishimoto-sensei say it was brown somewhere? I know it's a really minor detail but it's been bugging me for awhile. Marael (talk) 00:14, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * They've always been depicted as 'brown' in colored image. But i suppose you have a point about the color, they aren't exactly brown per se. I'll sort it --Cerez☺ (talk) 00:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * The manga very clearly depicts her eyes as being pure brown. —ShounenSuki (talk 08:09, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was going off this colored image. They aren't exactly brown to me --Cerez☺ (talk) 11:16, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * They might be light brown, but they're still brown. Also, the lighting in that image changes the colour somewhat. In every other colour image of her, her eyes are clearly and unambiguously brown. They're certainly not hazel, which refers to partly green, partly brown eyes. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:03, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I suppose my depiction of hazel has never really considered the green. At the very least we shouldn't leave it at just 'brown' though.--Cerez☺ (talk) 00:17, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not? Her eyes are simply brown. Sometimes light, sometimes dark, but usually plain, simple, average brown. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:01, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose it all comes down to our differences in the perception of the colour 'brown' It's not really an issue though.--Cerez☺ (talk) 12:30, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

In the first Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm game (EXCLUSIVELY for PS3) her eyes almost look hazel.

Her Looks
I was thinking about when she was out of commission in Naruto Shippuden, and was thinking. ''why, when Tsunade gets cut, bruised, beaten, and hurt in anyway, does she not transform into her real form? (Old self)'' She also goes through life like a young almost twenty-year-old without the affects of what we have seen of her old self. hope this makes some sense. 4evainmyhart71296 (talk) 01:33, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Because it is not Henge, not exactly at least. Perhaps it is something based on medical jutsu, or the seal on her forehead, or both. 212.205.3.50 (talk) 03:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)ChrisD

Last "living"?
"Thus making her the last living member of Team Hiruzen and the Sannin" - Technically.. Orochimaru is just sealed? Not dead. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 07:36, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

But we can imply that Orochimaru, technically "being trapped in a genjutsu-like "world of drunken dreams" for all eternity", counts as dead, or maybe as "Thus making her the last living and unsealed member of Team Hiruzen and the Sannin." Thoughts?Darkerratum (talk) 14:09, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sealed in another world/dimension, not deceased. Just like Kinkaku wouldn't be dead but sealed, as that pot was used to seal the 8 Tails, (I know this isn't the page but it's a good reference), and we know that Orochi wouldn't be dead if he's in another place. Make sense? But yeah, something should be written about it. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 14:48, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm changing it. If anyone disagrees, please say so here.Darkerratum (talk) 14:51, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have yet to see how you worded it, but I think that "the last active Sannin" could work. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:01, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that does sound abit better then "Thus making her the last living and unsealed member of Team Hiruzen and the Sannin". Sounds more sumed up. Making changes now. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 13:30, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * "The last active Sannin" isn't really acceptable, either, though. It's too subject to change and too vague. At the beginning of the series, Orochimaru could have been considered to be the last active Sannin, for instance. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:19, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think last active is fitting. And yes, so it should be subject to change. If one is sealed, it doesn't mean they can't come back. And at the start when Jaraiya and Tsunade were mentioned, they were known to be alive, so that makes the statement you made about Orochi being the last active void really. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 01:28, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Child...
What episode was when Tsunade was seen as a child?
 * Naruto Episode 90. Please sign your posts --Cerez☺ (talk) 15:45, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Uzumaki Clan?
Wouldn't Tsunade also most likely be from the Uzumaki clan, Mito being Hashirama's wife and Tsunade being Hashirama's granddaughter? I suppose it might also have been a different wife due to polygamy or the death of a wife, but neither seem particularly likely. --Hyolia (talk) 02:40, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Talk:Tsunade/Archive 2 ~SnapperTo 02:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also Talk:Uzumaki Clan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:45, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

No she can be only an Uzumaki if Hashirama is an Uzumaki...--Ilnarutoanime (talk) 12:27, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

well she is still blood related either way because it has been stated and it is already proven that her grandmother really is Mito Uzumaki.

Read those links on why she isn't considered an Uzumaki clan member, despite having Uzumaki blood. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:18, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

well she is still BLOOD RELATED cause its like if u had parents with different ethnicities u would be related to them and those ethnicities would be in your blood. this is only just tradition.

So is she technically related to Naruto? I think she maybe his second cousin because If Kushina is the granddaughter of Mito, then Tsunade and Kushinsa are first cousins. Possibly Mito and Hashirama had another child that took the name Uzumaki and Kushina is that child's kid. Since Naruto is related to Kushina, He is possibly the great grandson of the First lord as well as Tsunade's second cousin. --Etweens96 (talk) 19:49, February 6, 2013 (UTC)etweens96

Isn't the idea that Kushina has relation to Mito just kind of a maybe situation? That's not going to be put on a page without something backing it up. Anyways, is 1/4 of a clan really enough for Tsunade to be listed under the Uzumaki Clan? She has some blood relation, but not a huge amount. We don't know enough about her actual parents to really put that in. Now if her other parent not related to the 1st had Uzumaki blood, too, it could be put in there. Anyone agree with me? 192.183.30.172 (talk) 00:04, February 7, 2013 (UTC)Adam

Tsunade could be half Uzumaki, but she'd be considered a Senju. You're only part of one clan at a time. Mito was born an Uzumaki, but in marrying Hashirama, she became a Senju by marriage. Tsunade is considered a Senju. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:56, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

yeah thats a good point, too. didnt think of that. all right, personally, i think this argument is over. from what i can tell, the majority votes no uzumaki clan. agreed? 192.183.30.172 (talk) 01:27, February 7, 2013 (UTC)Adam

earth release?
doesnt she use earth release? i remember an episode a while ago when naruto was running from her and she used earth jutsus to trap him in konoha. and then he fought some of his friends like tenten, but they were just shadow clones.

And you think that's an Earth Release technique because? That was a tool based technique, and it's already in her jutsu list: Eight Trigrams Trap Formation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:52, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * rofl youre such a fucking asshole. all you had to say was the last part. but instead you decide to be a total jerk and say it like that? im sorry i dont remember every fucking detail about everything naruto like you, all i remembered is tsunade summoning walls, i thought that was maybe earth release. doesnt that make sense i would make a mistake like that?

Hey, Omni-senpai didn't mean it like that. He wasn't trying to be rude or anything.-- Ninja Sheik  02:20, March 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey now, let's keep the profanity down and keep this talkpage PG please.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 02:57, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry i forgot i was surrounded by 10 year olds.
 * Which are certainly incapable of browsing this website, I'm certain. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:17, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Now, now, don't go about insulting ten-year-olds. My niece is ten and she can navigate this site just fine, despite not even being a native English speaker. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:01, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * On the risk of making a fool of myself, I was being sarcastic. Moments like these make me wish the sarcasm/irony mark ("؟") were part of standard punctuation mark. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:07, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Unless this discussion doesn't have to do with Tsunade, I suggest we end it before it escalates. This kid's settin' a bad name for IP users everywhere >.< - and Omnibender, I understood you sarcasm. 99.141.102.38 (talk) 00:10, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh I remember when i was an IP user ;') so young and fies-anyway create account and absolve yourself of shame <_< >_> --Cerez☺ (talk) 01:13, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Image
Why did you change the image? The previous was better and it's deleted. (Image from Naruto episode 90 when Naruto gets annoyed). --Ilnarutoanime26 (Talk-Contribs.-Links) 14:27, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was looking for an image where she was wearing her green robe (not that it matters much). You may also remember that her shoulder is prominently featured in the old image.
 * Of course, when I was looking for a replacement, it didn't occur to me that I could use a Shippuden image. Said choices include looking <.<, giant forehead, this'un, and no robe. There's also the drunk/blushing option you uploaded. ~SnapperTo 18:02, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oddly enough I can't even remember what the previous image was. I don't think there's anything wrong with this image though. Additionally I like the no robe one as well.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 18:27, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can like the giant forehead. I can't access the first one. The third looks she's fat and the last one looks like she's matured. We can only choose either the one I uploaded or the giant forehead---Ilnarutoanime26 (Talk-Contribs.-Links) Konohagakure_Symbol.svg 05:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please change the current pic of her? I think, it is not very pretty. The older one was better, but I think there are a lot of better pics you could use. ;) For example: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/fuw5wgpn/tsunade5390519.png http://www.imagebanana.com/view/kusjgm4c/Tsunadewikibild.png (87.157.38.254 (talk) 13:53, July 31, 2011 (UTC))
 * I don't see anything wrong with the current image, she looks plenty pretty.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 14:08, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

I don´t say, that it is ugly or weird. I just think that there are better ones for Tsunade, which are more beautiful and can be used. (87.157.38.254 (talk) 19:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC))

Why isn´t there an image of her manga version? There are some differences as well. 93.195.29.98 (talk) 16:44, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Age
I looked for a previous discussion on this matter, but could not find one. Why is her age listed as 50-51 in Part I, when the 2nd databook specifically lists her age as 51, and not 50? 99.135.189.169 (talk) 23:53, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * User: "Snapper2" removed her age, the discussion is over. 99.135.189.169 (talk) 23:58, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Again
If she's 51 in the end of part 1 then she should be 53 because it's 2 years later. 108.74.182.16 (talk) 17:43, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Part 2 is two and a half years later. Third databook listed her as being 54 in Part 2. It's conceivable that she was almost 52 when Part 1 ended, and by the time the Third Databook came out, which listed at least six months chronologically of Part 2 (considering the time for Orochimaru had to wait before trying to take over Sasuke passed), she turned 54 in that period. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:15, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, taking into account the Herobook, everyone aged two years between the end of Part I (Second Databook) and the beginning of Part II (Herobook). When the Third Databook came out, they had all aged yet another year. So Tsunade was 51 at the end of Part I, 53 at the beginning of Part II, and 54 when the Third Databook came out. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:42, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I always forget the herobook. They're not part of the [insert kuin]-no-Sho series are they? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's named similarly, but its name isn't taken from the kuin, no. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:47, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

lightning release?
Hi ihave a question: why in tsunade infobox it is wrote that she have lightning release it is just because someone vandalise his infobox or?????? (i apolicize for my bad english ist not my first language)
 * With the introduction of A's Lightning Release Armour, it's possible that Tsunade's Important Body Points Disturbance counts as Lightning Release. Hence the presumed note, since we don't know for sure. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:32, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * What you just said... has got to be the most insanely... idiotic thing... I have ever heard. At no point, during your... rambling... incoherent response, did you come close to anything... that could be considered a rational thought. Everybody on this wikia... is dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points... and may God have mercy on your soul. --Seireitou-shishō [[File:Seireitou's signature picture.jpg]] (My True Identity 02:32, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I may not be a regular contributor to Narutopedia, but, in my opinion, that isn't a strong enough reason to even put Tsunade's nature as "presumed." The Important Body Points Disturbance has no direct relationship with Lightning Release Armor other than they stimulate (positively or negatively) the nervous system of an individual. The Body Point Disturbance involves using chakra to disrupt the regular bioelectric pulses in the victim, which is not at all like using chakra to stimulate and enhance one's nervous system (Lightning Release Armor). There is no direct indication that Lightning Release has anything to do with bioelectricity, so it is illogical to think that her nature is Lightning. By the logic you are presenting, the Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms and Eight Trigrams Palms Heavenly Spin are the same technique because they focus on highly defensive attributes. --れび (talk to Lavi!) 02:39, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Silver-Haired Seireitou Both techniques use electricity to change nervous conduction. A's uses lightning chakra to enhance his reflexes. Tsunade's technique scrambles nervous signals. One was explicitly called a Lightning Release, it makes sense for the other one to be one as well. God have mercy of yours if you can't make a connection.
 * @LaviBookman There was a discussion on this at some talk page relevant to this. It also had to with the databook entry of the technique which mentioned converting chakra into an electric current. I think it was argued that this offered enough room to articulate the technique as Lightning Release, and because we don't know for sure, there's the presumed note in her infobox. And the two techniques you mentioned are much closer to each other than these two, since they both come from the same fighting style, and require the same kekkei genkai, though I don't think that is a very good comparison since one of those techniques doesn't exist in the manga. For a long while, before there was some checking done, the second was considered as a parent technique to the first. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:44, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Since you don't know for sure, it shouldn't be noted in her article at all. Wikia are meant to display confirmed information, not speculation. I haven't seen a citation to this "presumed" part, which wouldn't explain to a random user coming by on Narutopedia where the Lightning element presumption was derived from. If there truly is a databook, and mind you, translated in english, that states that her technique converts her chakra into lightning currents, then why is it "presumed"? I'll tell you why, because you don't have anything you're basing off this speculation of yours besides flimsy rumors. Why do I think this? Because you listed it as "presumed". If it was written in the databook, it's fact, and she'd have lightining element listed on her infobox, no questions asked. But no. It says "presumed", and that means, you don't have any proof to this, meaning its just fan speculation. Of course, a wikia that doesn't really care much for accurate information would just throw out some silly fan speculations onto their articles. --Seireitou-shishō (My True Identity 02:54, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Previous discussion on the matter are Talk:Tsunade/Archive_1 and Talk:Tsunade/Archive_2. The translated databook entry is in the second link. The translation is by the same person who gave us this. The whole issue came up because back when the databook first came out, the electricity in the technique was used out of the context of Lightning Release techniques known at that point, which combined with the lack of "Lightning Release" in the technique's name, resulted in it not being considered Lightning Release for infobox purposes. The Lightning Release Armour changed that situation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:59, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * And the book that the entry was translated from is the Tō no Sho. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:06, June 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * We try to give our readers all relevant information, not just that which has been confirmed beyond any doubt. The databook stated that Tsunade converts her chakra into electricity for this technique, which would imply Lightning Release. The circumstances make it somewhat unclear if this was actually meant, though, so we convey that doubt by saying this technique is a presumed Lightning Release. No information's lost, everyone's happy. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:44, June 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why are you, Silver-Haired Seireitou, attacking Omnibender and being such a jerk? Leave your rudeness out of Narutopedia and stop attacking one of our top admins!! After reading YOUR comments, it's obvious YOU don't have a clue. There IS A DATABOOK stating the obvious, so you just went and dragged your own name through the mud. Sparxs77 (talk) 19:51, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I found a little something that may be more evidence that Tsunade can use Lightning Release. http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=Naruto&chapter=Chapter+424+-+Resolution&page=1&next=true In this page, you can see that there's something else going on in her Mystical Palm, and the sound effects say "electricity." It seems as though she's using her Lightning chakra with her medical ninjutsu as some sort of defibrillator. Thoughts? Chogyokko (talk) 21:25, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think I agree with you. I didn't notice that before but why else would the sfx say (electricity) !!? I actually always thought that Tsunade uses raiton release ever since she performed the ranshinsho on Kabuto. in the page you have brought, it seems as if she is using electricity as shock waves to revive the injured who passed out. I wish it was better shown in the anime. but did these sfx come out again when she started healing others during the war? or was it only shown when Katsuyu is assisting?? Saint Juste (talk)
 * She didn't use the same technique during SWWIV, and as said in a previous discussion of this matter, we're waiting for the databook.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:06, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

parent
in the anime there was a flashback from when tsunade was a little kid and there was a woman holding her while standing next to Hashirama. it didn't look like Mito. is it suppossed to be tsunade's mother? 108.74.182.16 (talk) 04:42, June 21, 2011 (UTC) this is the pic http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3380/3595801936_e8675b2e0b.jpg 108.74.182.16 (talk) 04:49, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I doubt her mom would be older than her grandpa Fangzntalonz (talk) 07:18, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * That image really shouldn't be considered canon in any way. Tsunade was born long after her grandfather had died. —ShounenSuki (talk 08:41, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she resembles Mito actually. The only thing wrong is that she lacks the diamond on her forehead. I know its not canon, just saing ... also both Kishimoto and animators are dumb when its to show age ... poor Hashirama, such old wife xD ... I really wonder from where did the animator got the idea of such image. The point of my post is, are you sure that Tsunade was born after Hashirama's death ?--Elveonora (talk) 04:07, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm quite sure, yes. Tsunade was fifty years old at the start of the manga. At that same point in time, it was about fifty-five years ago that the Academy had been founded. The Academy was founded by the Second Hokage, who only became Hokage after his predecessor, Hashirama, had died.
 * The time line of the shinobi world wars gives us a similar idea, albeit with a bit more leeway: Tsunade fought in SWWII while she was in her early to mid-twenties. SWWII started about twenty years after SWWI, in which the Second Hokage died. Since both Tobirama's reign and Tsunade's tour of duty in SWWII probably spanned several years, we get a time line that easily puts Tsunade's birth after Hashirama's death. —ShounenSuki (talk 09:48, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Elveonora (talk) 15:10, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hime
I heart somewhere her last name is Hime. Is this true?24.129.58.16 (talk) 04:39, August 4, 2011 (UTC)NamikazeAnbu
 * No it isn't. She's referred to as "Tsunade-hime" because of her grandfather being the Fist Hokage and granduncle the Second. This is all in her article though.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 05:10, August 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, "hime" means "princess". --Ilnarutoanime 18:41, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Too much unnecessary detail
in the abilities section, there's too much unnecessary detail that someone added, when some of that information was already stated beforehand. so it's just the same thing over again. please delete it. 108.74.182.16 (talk) 22:29, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked over and made a few changes to her abilities section masta'*wheezes* While there is information that had already been stated, the examples serves for different aspects of her abilities and as such repetition is unavoidable at times.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 23:27, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Tsunade's blood
Should we put in trivia that 1/4 of her blood is Senju, the other 1/4 is Uzumaki... If you don't understandm, look at the picture below.. That explains everything..
 * Why is that necessary?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 13:38, October 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * because being an uzumaki and a senju is special i guess.. I mean we saw her and Mito's mark on their forehead the same and she is her grandmother.
 * I don't really see the need to say she's ¼ this or that. Saying she's a Senju/Uzumaki is quite "special" enough me thinks. Also, remember to sign your posts friend.Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 13:45, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not only is there no need to specifically state this, but there is no way we can be certain it's true. Tsunade's 'unknown' parent can also be a Senju or Uzumaki, changing the percentages. It also assumes that Mito and Hashirama are both 100% Uzumaki and Senju, respectively, which is a ridiculous assumption. —ShounenSuki (talk 15:15, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

And I question why does it even matter...--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 16:23, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Presumed Nature
Why does it say that it's presumed that Tsunade has lightning release?
 * Because of the way the technique's article was worded in the databook. Read through her archives.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 21:09, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Specifically this one, if you're feeling lazy. :) Skitts (talk) 09:45, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Relation to Naruto?
Hashirama Senju (Tsunade's grandfather) was married to Mito Uzumaki, Kushina Uzumaki's mother. Most people know that Kushina Uzumaki is Naruto Uzumaki's mother. Wouldn't this make Naruto and Tsunade cousins? Or would they be even be related?
 * Mito wasn't Kushina's mother, they never said that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:13, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I still think they could be related somehow. Do you have any opposition to that?
 * It's highly possible and more than likely that they are related somehow, however the exact relation is not clear.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 02:21, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I remember asking this before. All that is known is that they're kinsmen. Skitts (talk) 02:51, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Tsunade's Warning
I says that Tsunade warned the others about not inhaling the pollen but here it looks like the mizukage warned them instead. Joshbl56 20:34, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

They swapped the lines in the scanlation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:14, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * That does make more sense.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 22:14, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Jintou
Madara speaks of this Jintou, but I can't find what it means on the Wikia itself. Any help please? Antonino200 (talk) 19:06, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Madara said Jinton, which is the romanization of the Dust Release nature transformation. Skitts (talk) 19:08, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Referring to Ōnoki not Tsunade.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 19:12, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I suppose mangastream made a little mistake there. That clears that up. Antonino200 (talk) 19:16, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mangastream no longer hosts Naruto though...--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 19:17, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Image
Is this image better for Tsunade? IIRC, the current image was a literal freeze frame of a millisecond shot just before she heals Sasuke, which would've required video capture tools to compose. Thoughts ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 19:21, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like it. I'm not sure if this is on my side only, but why does her skin tone look like that? --Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 19:24, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you mean the current image, then it's probably due to the bad lighting of the background. If you mean the proposed image, it's most likely an issue your end since I can't see bad skin colour here. --Speysider (Talk Page) 19:26, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually the infobox image colours are fine. Something looks off about the proposed image.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 19:33, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Strange. Maybe it's just your monitor or something, I can't see too much difference between the current and proposed images. Looking on my laptop, the image does seem really washed out for some reason. Maybe it's just a glitch :S --Speysider (Talk Page) 21:11, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like it. It's basically the same expression of the current image, but with a slightly better angle. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:39, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yay :D. I take it that it's fine to add it to the infobox then. Just realised that the image is jpg, hence the bad colouring that Cerez noticed. I'll take the image again and save in png if possibe (not a fan of png though, IE has a bad habit breaking layouts because of its incompatiblity with png -.-) --Speysider (Talk Page) 21:55, April 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't seem to see the issue with the tones. Can you screenshot or describe what problem you have with the image? Omni doesn't seem to see an issue.
 * I have uploaded a better quality image, is the tones better ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:05, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The new image looks absolutely fine to me Salil2212™Uchiha Symbol.svg 12:07, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And do not remove other people's talkpage messages like you just did with mine. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:09, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

What I mean is that outside of the aspect ratio which is much better in your image, her skin tone is supposed to look something like this no? In the image(s) it looks washed out for some reason.--Cerez365™(talk) 12:13, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

i didnot remove. Dont know how it happedned Salil2212™ 12:15, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Cerez: It might be a problem with Windows Media Player. It has very strange issues playing all of the original Naruto DVD's for some reason. If possible, I will try a different playback player or just take an image still using my capture card. @Salil: Edit history indicates that you did. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:17, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like the current image, and yeah, the color's fine. It's not dark.
 * --IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 12:23, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh you're using DVD's. That's the problem right there. Captured DVD images don't always translate so well in terms of colour. That's why the saturation looks like that. It might be better in the long-run if you could find a site and get the image from.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 12:25, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's no difference between JPG and PNG's color. xD
 * --IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 12:26, April 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Cerez It works just fine on the TV with a built-in DVD player, no colour issues at all. The problem with using a stream site is that the image will probably be much larger than the current one due to the fact I use a very high resolution for my monitor. When I use DVD's I can make them smaller and more usuable for the wiki.
 * @Indxcv The JPG seemed to look very washed out, but the PNG has a better colour scheme. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yeah I just noticed recently lol even though I also use PNG.
 * --IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 12:35, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but what is IndxcvNovelist talking about? I'm referring to the fact that the colours in the image are off. If you look at the one I found as opposed to the proposed one the colours are definitely off- the image has a purple tint to it. Now that I know that it was from a dvd capture I already explained that there's always issues with saturation when you capture images from dvds because i've tried to do it already. It's a good capture and all, but I don't think you should use the image from the dvd, try finding it on a website and it should be fine.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:41, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems I'm gonna have to do that. I could clearly see a difference when I played back the DVD on my PS3 and comparing it to the image on my TV to the image being shown on my capture card, the TV had better colour than the capture card. I'll update this when I've found the image. EDIT: Updated the image, I can definitely see the difference. Why do the DVD's suck in terms of colour quality anyway ? :S --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:57, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, much budder. For some reason it loses saturation when it's copied, not really sure why.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:59, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that issue was solely related to the original Naruto. I didn't see any issues with saturation loss on the Shippuden DVD's. --Speysider (Talk Page) 14:17, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Survive Yasaka Magatama at point blank range?
Guys, it's written in Tsunade's article that she survived Madara Uchiha's Yasaka Magatama at point blank range. Gow can you say that? She had her Ūrṇā Technique activated at that time.Undominanthybrid (talk) 14:15, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

So ? Yes, that's how she survived.--Elveonora (talk) 14:18, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Don't say that it is due to her durability. It is ambigous whether her survival was due to her durability or her technique.Undominanthybrid (talk) 17:54, May 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * She still has to be durable to survive being stabbed that close and being able to act like she did (pulling it out and hitting trying to hit Madara with it). The point she can do that after being stabbed and still not seemed to be fazed is a testament to her durability. You have to remember, her wound was still healing and she can still feel the pain. Joshbl56  18:12, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

That seems more home with the definition "tolerance to pain" than "durability".Undominanthybrid (talk) 16:09, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

She sure is physically strong by herself. After all, databook gives her 5/5 strength.--Elveonora (talk) 16:12, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

No one ever denounced Tsunade's strength and if anyone does that, I'll break his teeth. But being physically strong has nothing to do with durability. Just see a sumo wrestler. He's so strong, but can be easily finished off by a bullet to the vitals. So using strength as a scale for durabilty is completely illogical.Undominanthybrid (talk) 10:02, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

hates sweets
can we add this to her trivia with her like and dislikes. It's been mentioned in episode 99 original series (not shippuden).71.48.214.128 (talk) 01:47, June 6, 2012 (UTC)NaruFan

Yin Seal in the anime
It might be worth noting that in the anime, Tsunade's Yin Seal is seemingly much smaller than it was in the manga. I've gone over several pictures of her in both mediums, and that at least appears to be the case.Skarn22 (talk) 01:38, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Further proof of Raiton
I've brought this up twice before, but it's been ignored both times.

http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=Naruto&chapter=Chapter+424+-+Resolution&page=1&next=true

If you look at the bottom of that page, you can see that there's electricity in her Mystical Palm and a disturbance in the technique that isn't present when other people use it. It seems as though she's using some sort of defibrillator to revive the unconscious shinobi. This, combined with Body Pathway Derangement, is pretty solid proof that she's indeed Lightning-natured. As I've brought this up before and have received no answer, I'll venture to edit the "Presumed" out of her "Lightning Release" in the infobox if no one cares to dispute this in about a day. Chogyokko (talk) 05:22, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would guess that that lightning is just to show the energy glimmering. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:40, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's already an SFX for "Healing," which is what we normally see with Mystical Palm. That one had an extra SFX, indicating electricity, and you can see sparks in the technique that we've never seen before. Chogyokko (talk) 06:00, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

While this is interesting, and I'm sorry I'm just seeing this, I have to err on the side of caution. We don't know much about the technique Tsunade used to save the villagers. Are there any other panels where it's used like that to corroborate the story? It is possible that that's simply how the technique works or that it was Katsuyu that was doing that and possibly not Tsunade. I believe it's a really good find, but I'd prefer if we waited for an official databook release on the Healing Chakra Transmission technique before the "presumed" was removed from her lightning release.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:11, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I would also side with caution, but this is definitely something that should be looked up more closely. We need to see if those SFX also give an electricity sound in the raw. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:11, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Jutsus
I watched again the fight of the legendary Sannins, when im on epi 97. I just fought something, look naruto episode 97, 11:12 Tsunade blow a saliva? or what? then then the Akagi's searchers seems hurt, is this a Jutsu? Like Katsuyu's Acid blow? Please answer, and also on games, Tsunade can use Cherry Blossom Impact. Then Tsunade's Time release technic were not in the info box. Sorry for my english. :3

That was Shizune...--Elveonora (talk) 18:02, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Game and movie techniques are not listed in infoboxes, unless the character only exists in games or movies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:18, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Page
What happen to Tsunade's page? :3 if you open it. look.
 * Sorry, but the wiki is currently having some technical problems. Also please sign your posts. 12:32, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Default Picture
Why did you change it? Tsunade looks old on that pic, even though she's really old. But you would change it? like the older one or the suggested pic of the other. Thanks.
 * Exactly which picture are you referring to? And sign your posts. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:33, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Could you please change the current pic of her? It is a really old pic that does not look good. There are several better images to use. 87.157.44.129 (talk) 22:12, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Her picture's fine. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:47, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Jutsus
what happen to her jutsus box? even the creation rebirth disappeared.
 * We are currently facing some technical problems. 10:58, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

Created the medic system?
I've read in some releases of chapter 577 that Tsunade supposedly created the medical ninja system, but I've found other translations that claim she just said that Hashirama's will was used when creating them, not that she herself set it up.

http://mangahelpers.com/t/aegon-rokudo/releases/33713 http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=808219

What's true? Igaram (talk) 02:01, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Those look like incorrect translations. Tsunade seems to have been the one to create the official system that governs medical-nin. The rules and so on. She didn't create medical ninja, nor was Hashirama's will used to create it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:47, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there anyone fluent in Japanese that can verify what the manga actually said? It'd be a bit silly to credit her with something if she didn't actually do it. Igaram (talk) 01:17, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

On mangahelpers.com, which is a site full of awsome translators, User:Aegon Rokudo translated chapter 577. Heres how he translated the first 3 pages... Page 1 Madara: are you saying that you can win against me by using the will that hashirama left behind after he died? Tsunade: strength is different from volition, it is something that transcends matter itself. you are wrong! the will of the dead draws out the strength that makes those who remain go forward!\\ the medical ninja techniques that I created are based on that will as well…… just like the ninja medics and their rules ! sfx: jump\jump\\ first rule: medics cannot give up the medical treatment until the life of the members of his platoon has totally ran out! seal: zuuuu\\ second rule: medics must never be on the first line of the battlefield! third rule: medics must be the last ones to die in a platoon! this is all I have taught to my disciples, but there is another rule! Page 2 fourth rule: only the medics that mastered the byakugou* creation rebirth technique\\ can ignore those rules!\\ TLN: the term “byakugou” refers to the white precious stone on the forehead of the statues of Buddha\\ byakugou creation rebirth technique…? Madara: I never heard of that… Page 3 Tsunade: I’m the sonly person capable of using that forbidden technique… In other words I’m the only one who can fight while using it!! Madara: … the pollen was scattered away by the jinton but… the only thing that changed from before is that your number increased of a medical ninja... Tsunade: if 4 people are not enough, we will fight you with five! don’t think that I’m a simple medical ninja! Madara: she is slower than the raikage… and her power is inferior as well… --- Okay so i think that it made it clear that she used Hashirama's will (of fire) to inspire her to keep fighting, and she made the medic ninja rules based of of the will, it wasn't Hashirama himself that made them, his will just inspired them.98.26.240.62 (talk) 02:24, September 18, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan


 * Much obliged for that. Igaram (talk) 02:44, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

as of latest episode
Didn't it "confirm" (even if filler) that she indeed uses Lighting Release?--Elveonora (talk) 01:29, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * How? When? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:16, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Her chakra seemed like flash to me--Elveonora (talk) 03:22, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * It doesn't. Lightning has never been depicted as being yellow in the anime.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:59, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sword of the Thunder God. -- The Goblin  12:12, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

This happens to me often, I hit the publish button sooner than I make it clear what I mean, not to mention the typos/missing letters... Let me explain: There's no reason for chakra (in anime) to be yellow in Tsunade's case.
 * Standard chakra is portrayed as being blue in color by the animators, with tailed beast chakra as red, evil/foul chakra as either purple or black, "modes" and elemental ninjutsu and some "special" techniques have their unique colors.
 * Correct me if I'm wrong but on a side-note, Lighting Release is actually yellow in the manga/canon--Elveonora (talk) 17:13, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright then, I shall. You are wrong. The Naruto manga has depicted Chidori as being blue and Naruto's normal chakra, which is portrayed as blue in the anime, as yellow. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 17:58, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Then why do Raikage wear yellow and it's such a common color in Kumo?--Elveonora (talk) 21:59, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it really matter? You stated something was manga-canon and I rebutted with evidence that it wasn't. We're talking about chakra colors, not colors the villages use most. Furthermore, if you really want to get strict about it, its probably because the Mizukage already use blue to represent water. Would be pretty redundant to have two villages represented by blue. Nevertheless, the colors a country uses is no indication of chakra color and chakra color has never been an indicator of nature type (Black lightning, Black fire, Black ice, etc.). ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 22:02, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah I stand corrected. However, I highly doubt the anime would've retconned(?) something from the original anime while still depicting it as blue opposite her. More likely than no, it was just to highlight the "power" that was being used- something to "complement" A's lightning armour. It would have looked way less impressive if she was just there, auraless.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 02:17, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Be it pink, black or orange for what I care, it wasn't blue. Raikage uses Lightning Release Armor, it's visible as an electricity. In Tsunade's case it was lighting instead, she looked like a light bulb to me. Lightning makes light, there wouldn't be an other reason for such effect, unless the poor woman had a jaundice--Elveonora (talk) 02:31, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * The point is, Elve, there has been no instance of lightning-chakra being depicted as yellow in any source. We are not going to make assumptions and give her Lightning Release just because of a golden aura in the anime, as it proves absolutely nothing. Until she proves to us beyond a shadow of a doubt that she can use the Release, be it by saying so or outright using it, we shouldn't list her as a user. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 03:43, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Too late, she is actually already listed as one for quite some time. My proposal being the removal of "presumed" already. She can't be presumed, she is either one or isn't, and the latest episode's "aura" is enough evidence imo besides the "canonical" ones--Elveonora (talk) 04:16, November 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Frankly, your opinion is misguided. The color of a chakra aura is not proof and has never been proof of a nature type. Secondly, she's listed as presumed because we don't know if the one other instance of her using "electrical-in-nature" techniques could be Lightning Release, but, considering it wasn't marked as one in the databook that covered it, is highly unlikely. The technique most likely involves manipulating the electrical output of the muscles, but that's another debate. The way you talk, there is a mountain of evidence to support your thesis, when in reality all we have is an iffy technique at best and your "yellow-colored aura" theory (despite the fact that yellow has never been associated with lightning in any official source). Therefore, I can assure you that all we can do is mention that she is presumed. However, if you'd rather it'd be "she has it" or "she doesn't" I'm all for removing Lightning Release, as I don't believe we have enough evidence to support a presumed status at all. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 04:30, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Wrong, it is. Naruto's Rasengan is yellow in manga (the color of his chakra) but white-blueish when it's Rasenshuriken. Same goes for Chidori, Sasuke's chakra is purple but his lightning techniques have a different color. Obviously fire techniques look like fire, not the color of the user's chakra, it's called "nature transformation" for a reason. About Tsunade, I see you continue on a more relevant talkpage, so will I.--Elveonora (talk) 19:43, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, not to derail this beautiful discussion. But any reasoning based solely on colour, something dependent on any manor of animator screwup, filler screwup, fact screwup, facts based on assumptions, etc... is complete speculation. This can't be used at all to "confirm" that Tsunade has lightning release. "confirm" is when someone uses an actual known lightning release jutsu, the databook says a jutsu they use is lightning release, or the databook/series actually says they have lightning release. Colour is not confirmation. Frankly I wouldn't even accept presumed based on that alone. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 21:33, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Not to oppose Dant here, but I just feel the need to bring this up "no instance of lightning-chakra being depicted as yellow in any source" But in the manga, isn't Naruto's chakra and A's Lightning Armour both yellow in the manga? So that's both a standard chakra and a technique that are both yellow... Just sayin'. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 22:15, November 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Uh, in the manga, A's technique is blue as well. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 00:55, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

@hawk, Naruto's chakra is yellow because that's his color, everyone has a differently colored chakra. But I'm very certain that elemental techniques have a preset color with the exception of "black lighting" and "amaterasu" @Fox, do we have a manga/databook pictures for that?--Elveonora (talk) 02:00, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Shadow Clone Jutsu?
I Am guessing it would be anime only but when Sakura talks about her training under Tsunade its shows Tsunade using clones to launch multiple balls at her. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=NURlLU5YzLc&NR=1 Around 8 seconds.Umishiru (talk) 12:44, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * /Archive 1, /Archive 2. -- The Goblin  12:46, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Shorter links. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:48, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Senju Tsunade: Official Source?
The deputy director of the Shonen Manga group (and former editor-in-chief of Weekly Shonen Jump) Hisashi Sasaki just posted a quote credited to "SENJU_Tsunade." I would consider him pretty official; however, I'm not very into the Naruto fandom, so I'm not sure if you guys have had sources like this before. Just thought I'd give you guys a heads up. Cheers. XScar (talk) 04:05, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

It's pretty obvious Senju to be her last name.--Elveonora (talk) 04:44, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

He's not Masashi Kishimoto though. Tsunade is a Senju even if her last name is unknown at this point. It would be the same thing as him saying Tsunade [of the] Senju, or [The Senju] Tsunade. Fact still remains that Tsunade's Senju parent could've been her mother and that person is not "officiaL enough" a source for this wikia to act upon. ?--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:47, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

...except he capitalizes all last names, no matter what the order is, such as "Chrollo LUCILFER." Also, when he tweets about clans in other shows (such as Hunter x Hunter with Kurapika being a Kurta), he simply lists only the character's first name if the last name is unknown (so only Kurapika, not "KURTA Kurapika"). If he meant Tsunade of the Senju, he would've said that. Feel free to continually ignore that her last name is Senju, but when it's pretty obvious that it is, and THE runner of Shonen Jump says it is, you're beginning to become a bit silly. Good luck waiting for the answer we already know. XScar (talk) 12:29, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I agree it's not enough of a confirmation, but everything hints on that.--Elveonora (talk) 21:32, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * XScar. The runner of Shonen Jump has absolutely 0 to do with the intimate details of the mangaka's work. He/She knows as much as we do about any series that we read. Stop being an ass, they're not even someone from the team that creates the weekly manga, you really think someone running ALL of Shonen Jump has time to know intricate details of one manga? But sure, we'll go and add it "Tsunade Senju --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:18, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * First, Cerez no need to be an ass yourself.
 * Second, As far as that can be gathered, because he does not write the manga or has any connection to the team, him saying Senju Tsunade is just as valid as say TVtropes calling Karin, Uzumaki Karin. Unless stated in the manga, anime, some form of official media (card game, video game, ect), then it is not valid.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 12:35, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * You know, he does know the intricate details of all the series. This is his job, his life. His Twitter account is devoted almost entirely to posting quotes from Jump characters, as well as stating birthdays -- it is basically the official twitter account for Jump. He was the chief-in-editor of WSJ for quite a while, in charge of every single title in the magazine, and also was an actual editor for them. Of course, he's now moved on to being in charge of the whole Shonen Manga group, but that only happened within the past year or so. It's hard for me to believe that you guys would consider a card game more official than someone who actually works with the title.

XScar (talk) 04:36, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, her name doesn't matter... she is officially Hashirama's little cute slug princess ;D--Elveonora (talk) 22:50, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed Trivia
Her trivia about her english voice in video games was out of date, as McGlynn hasn't voiced her in quite some time. changed "most" to "some" and dropped unnecessary game listings (kept the one of note because both voices were used). VlenFlyheight (talk) 09:17, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Tsunade's strength vs A' strength
Isn't this comparison using that episode pointless. A was using his Lightning Release Armour while Tsunade was using her Chakra Enhanced Strength. It would be more appropriate to place it in her chakra prowess section. Also, it's plain common sense that her technique will give the user more strength than A's, as her's reinforces and enhances the user's strength beyond what they would be ever capable of, but A's only enhances it to he physically possible limit, which obviously would give her the advantage. Also, the strength she gains from using her ninjustu is also credited as her normal strength in this page.Undominanthybrid (talk) 15:45, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think there are some discrepancies in the manga about where exactly her insane strength comes from. While Shippuden has made it clear her strength is the work of extreme chakra control, pre-timeskip, during her fight with Kabuto, he was able to remove her super strength by cutting her muscles. Which would imply her super strength back then was actually pure strength. I can't respond to your whole post, so I thought I'd just respond to the last bit... 86.161.174.25 (talk) 19:19, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

She has 5 in strength in stats, that means she is super strong physically even without Chakra Enhanced Strength --Elveonora (talk) 20:09, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Nobody said that she doesn't actually have super human strength. As the page says, she can crush rocks with her bare hands and she does have superhuman stregth. I never said she didn't. I only said that comparison of her and the Raikage's strength is pointless because both were using ninjutsu to enhance their strength, so what they used was not their actual strength. I am also complaining that she can create fissures in the earth with a single jab of her finger IS KEPT in her physical prowess section, NOT in the chakra prowess section, whcih it actually should be, 'cause even if you had the strength to create fissures, if you poke your finger on the ground with that strength, you'd end up breaking your own finger along with the ground.Undominanthybrid (talk) 20:29, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Then you are absolutely correct, feel free to correct it.--Elveonora (talk) 20:35, April 4, 2013 (UTC)