Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26636534-20151016181609/@comment-11444045-20151103150438

AsianReaper wrote: @StealthBlade, his last Rasengan used against Sasuke in the manga was manifested with just one hand And I was NOT talking about that i was talking about before the insane power ups -_-

Actionmanrandell wrote: StealthBlade98 wrote: Naruto by himself doesn't have a ton of chakra, the only reason naruto has chakra reserves is because of Kurama. If he didn't have the 9 tails i don't see him ever making the Shadowclone Jutsu in the ways he does. He'd just be like other shinobi's seeing how naruto never had good chakra control. The rasengan is supposed to be a one handed weapon yet he needs 2 clones to even perform the technique much like Rasenshuriken. So it actually more of a detriment due to time needing for it to create as opposed to someone who's great at maintaining chakra control and who can create it fast like Jiraiya, Minato, Kakashi who doesn't need shadowclones to create the rasengan.

Wrong Naruto was specifically said to have 4 times the chakra of a high level jonin like Kakashi FOUR TIMES that was before any upgrades or super training. Naruto didn't use kyuubi chakra to create his shadow clones he used his OWN chakra creating the shadow clones divided his chakra up and weakened the seal on kurama's cage but again he created those shadow clones with his own chakra Oh really? So naruto created 1000 shadow clones in the original series against Gaara? Because if you cared to remember he released the orange hue chakra Kurama has before fighting Gaara where Shukaku was coming out. Sorry but you're going to have to try a bit harder if you want to convince me.

Now it's highly possible he gotten training with Jiraiya to be better in those 2 years making clones but even then, Jiraiya weakened the seal further during those training where he was able to use more of the 9 tails power should he need too. Hence why he ended up going bloodlust mode against Orochimaru.

In the beginning of Naruto(original series) and Naruto Shippuden for nearly the entire freaking anime / manga not only did he summon a shadow clone to create the rasengan he also summoned two for the Rasenshuriken on his base form. THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING!

Now yes after he started using the 9 tails chakra and than later on adopted the Sage of Six Paths Power he started doing it without shadow clone/s and did it with chakra hands or his hands alone but I not once brought this up. I'm talking about for his base form, normal naruto he needed a clone or 2 to perform those two techniques.

Hell it took the sage of the six paths power to allow naruto to create the jutsu's with one hand. That's pretty pathetic imo