Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26182227-20150819000702/@comment-26773508-20150819131821

GerizzyYMcrew wrote: ^ just like how madara stole kakashi's eye?...give better reasons as to why minato is overhyped Yeah right. Let's compare Juubi Jinchuriki Madara to Black fucking Zetsu, one of the least powerful characters in the series who got chopped into half by someone like War-era Chojuro. And before you say "Madara was defeated by Black Zetsu!" I'll remind you that Madara was backstabbed and had no idea what was coming for him. Black Zetsu's only strength is his long lifespan (or possibly immortality). He has nothing else other than that, and still managed to steal Kurama from the "legendary" Fourth Hokage like it was a piece of candy. It would have been a whole other point had Minato been forced into a corner by Black Zetsu's combat abilities. But no, Minato lost the Kyuubi right in front of his eyes, under his own nose. Face it, Minato didn't live up to his hype. He is the most overrated character in the series, along with Itachi. And the reason I include Itachi is not because the canon overrates him, as it does to Minato. It's because his fanboys keep on coming with absolute bullshit like claiming that Itachi can solo EMS Madara and stuffs like that. Itachi has god-level feats, but they're nowhere in the same league as EMS Madara.

IchiNii89 wrote: I think Naruto's most over hyped character award is tie between Kakashi or Hiruzen Prime or whatever bs some people do to rationalize why that character is relevant let alone a threat to any of the top tier characters. I haven't seen anyone hyping Kakashi in this wiki. He wasn't even hyped in the manga. In fact, Kakashi was only hyped at the beginning of the series. After the appearance of Orochimaru, Kakashi lost whatever hype he had during the Zabuza arc. And he never recovered from that, getting his ass kicked again and again by Itachi, Kakuzu, Pain, etc. Almost everyone here agrees that Hokage Kakashi is the weakest Hokage. So the only hype is on War-arc Kakashi, who not only had a powerful technique (Kamui), but he spammed the shit out of it too. So War-arc Kakashi's hype is justified by his feats. DMS Kakashi is out of the question for the obvious reason of being pure bullshit (first time ever of a ghost possessing someone in the whole series. Kishi should have left that shit to the horror genre, but I suppose he was high on weed).

But spot on about Hiruzen, though. He only has DB4 hype. I wonder why Kishi bothered to reiterate the now-unbelievable claim that Hiruzen>Tobirama in the latest DB, after the whole "OMFG the Senju are sooooo uber-powerful!!!" shit he pulled off in the middle of Shippuden. But whatever, Kishi's word prevails since both Hiruzen and Tobirama lack the necessary feats.