Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-44142243-20200416151624/@comment-6769189-20200422133834

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

 So from observation he knows: LOL.... From observation he concludes that is spiritual rather than physical
 * What the sword is also called by
 * He knows it seals it's victims in a genjutsu world of drunken dreams
 * He knows it's a variant of the kusanagi blade

The things you pointed out he learned from the myths/legends of the sword. "It is said..." is used to preface information that hasnt been proven or seen/experienced 1st hand

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Your argument becomes even weaker when you realise this is recognized by the databook and presented in the wiki, so it's basically you alone on this lmao... The information is corroborated yes, but im not saying what he said is false.

Im saying that he learned about the sword being spiritual as he observed it in the scene.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

It's actually more specifically stated that it CAN'T be found, than it CAN. It doesnt say that. At all.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Sasuke was able to add Curse Mark to his Susanoo.
 * Your argument contradicts official sources that were no where hinted to be false (except in your head), your argument has that Itachi can accessorize his susanoo which can't be proven or even speculated by the characters' existing ability

Sasuke also added all the Bijuu's chakra to Susanoo

Sasuke's Susanoo changed after recieving Itachi's eyes

Sasuke replaced the chakra orb thing with Amaterasu flames

Itachi used a little dagger thingy with his skeletal Susanoo that is not present on any form of his Susanoo

Susanoo itself can be turned into accessories for other characters

Techniques and abilities can be chanelled through Susanoo

Susanoo itself goes though many design/accessory changes as it naturally progresses into higher forms, such as clothes and weaponry.

The Susanoo of Obito's MS gets a scar to match Kakashi's scar

There is a precedent of Susanoo being effected by external or internal forces in appearance, shape, and weaponry

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

based on the OFFICIAL statement it can't even be handled. So what you're doing is leading to a non conclusive argument whilst ignoring a more recognized and sound one "because Itachi" What cant be handled?

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

That leads to the conclusion that they are related but not that TB is a product or came with Susanoo
 * It disappearing and reappearing with susanoo, having the same color as susanoo all leads to the conclusion that it's a product of susanoo.

SPSM cloak and KCM are the same color amd operate in a similar fashion but are not the same thing. But are closely related.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Zetsu doesnt say it cant be found. Those are literally not the words on the page. He said no one was able to locate it before. Just because no one had done something before, doesnt mean it could not be done
 * The contradiction you mentioned: The character literally says it CAN'T be found, so what's the other conclusion here? The statement would apply for Itachi as well in that "it can't be found because it's a spirit with no physical form" so how did he find it in the first place genius?

The Rasengan was suppose to be impossible to add an element to but Naruto did it, and his genin son can do it too.