Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-34678409-20180411224108

AsianReaper. Actually it is. Minato hit him using the solidifying method. Obito had to solidify to hit Minato which Minato hit him before he could even react. He used pure speed to hit him at point blank.

Legion. That's not the point. The point is, you were wrong. It does transport the user. That is how he avoids Ninety percent of all attacks thrown at him.

Not like it matters. The Manga stated he was faster, when he won the battle of speed. Naruto is as fast as him. Which means Naruto is faster than Obito. Simple logic.

All that is stated is that Obito's Kamui is short range, according to Seelantau's translation of the Databook founded on Kamui's talk page. It never states Obito must make contact. Obito, before transporting Torfune, already seen the poison and how it acted when he seen it used on Torfune's partner. So either he's an idiot, or he didn't grab him. Since he wasn't shown to make contact, only get close, that's just you thinking he made contact. I however, don't think Obito is an idiot. So nope. Torfune managed to grab him.

Gai went to hit Obito, Obito phased, he went through him, Obito went to strike him from behind, and Gai who couldn't see him or his attack, blocked his gunbai with his Nunchucks. You named no chapters where Obito purely dodges without Kamui. You named only chapters where he phases with Kamui. That isn't speed. Teleportation is not base speed.

How do you know how Kakashi thinks? Are you Kakashi? Are you Kishimoto? The fact of the matter is, Obito's base speed without Kamui was only shown there, so that's as fast as he is without Kamui. You have to show me a feat where he doesn't use Kamui and fights without using it to get close and counter attack after phasing. Because all that shows, is he is fast enough, not as fast.