Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35036470-20180318150434/@comment-34752936-20180321080350

Gai proved that in terms of raw power, there are few if any ninja who can stand up to him. Kisame, who is one of the strongest ninja in the entire manga got his strongest ninjutsu destroyed and got knocked out while facing Guy's Noon Tiger.

All this talk about Pain defeating Gai by seeing him and ST himing and summoning summons is also a load of bull.

For one, Gai is faster than Pain when he opens the gates. And as we have seen Speed is usually the biggest factor when it comes to fighting in this manga. Gai would zoom around and Pain wouldn't do anything because he can't keep up with him.

If he had been present before the big ST, it's very likely he and Kakashi would have train wrecked Deva and Asura if he was with Kakashi. No way in the Hell the two of them could defeat the strongest Jounin of Konoha.

Seriously, people are underrating Gai like hes some kind of fodder.

Speed blitz and insane taijutsu kick/punch would be all he would need to take out a Pain body.Guy's father used the Gates in a versatile enough fashion to defeat 6 of the 7 swordsman. I'm sure Guy could take on Pein, even in the 7th gate. What made Pein so strong was Shinra tensei and bansho tennin, but with gates speed and his timing, guy could easily avoid them and attack during the reprieve. Only a specific path can repair other paths (naraka, iirc), so if he destroyed those there'd be no problem. The only thing is guy couldn't sense him out the way Naruto did afterwards. If he has the amount of speed he has,he would take others and avoid the shinra tensei and bansho tennin. Guy isn't that stupid. He'll work out that there's an interval between attacks, or he might not even need to with his speed. He is Known to be an extremely skilled ninja, graduating from the Academy at age 7 (where the average is around 13-14) and becoming a Chunin at age 11. Highly skilled martial artist.