User talk:Seelentau

Sakura Page edit
in the infobox on Sakura Haruno's page Sarada is listed as her daughter 3 times. It wouldn't let me fix it... Thanks! ♀winterbells1♪ (talk) 13:50, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Nintendo 3ds question
Can the device be used while the battery is being charged or does one have to wait until the recharge is complete before the device is ready to be used again? Thanks.--Elve Talk Page 20:07, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Right, it was a stupid question, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for clarification.--Elve Talk Page 20:57, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

The Last movie
Where was it stated that Naruto 7: The Last is truly the last Naruto movie ever?-- JOA20 16:23, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not going to play Captain Obvious, but wasn't it "the first Naruto movie in two years will be entitled The Last!"--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 16:45, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

PM on chat ?
Hey Tau, would like to talk about something on the chat, I'll be on there for as long as possible. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:07, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, able to chat ? --Sajuuk Talk Page 11:34, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, feel free to come on the chat at some point. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:58, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi "quelling" Enton...
I actually brought this up before, in the topic you started concerning Blaze Release's debut. I was going to change something on Amaterasu's article and was reminded of the point about Itachi extinguishing the black flames. At least two scanslations back then worded Zetsu's commentary in a way that implied that Itachi did in fact stop the flames from consuming the rest of Sasuke's body, with the intention of preserving Sasuke's eyes... While others I've asked well after have made it seem as though he simply stopped casting Amaterasu, and was proceeding retrieve Sasuke's eyes. Of course, this was all before we were all made aware that Itachi had no actual desire to take Sasuke's eyes, and before Sasuke made such a big deal out of extinguishing Enton upon discovering the dōryoku of his right eye.

What do you think is actually the case? I would like to omit that part of the article since I've been thinking for the longest that there's no definitive evidence of Itachi being capable of exerting that kind of control over Enton—that Kagutsuchi is the only means of doing so. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 17:06, October 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 18:59, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Time Naruto airs in Japan
Do you know the exact time Naruto airs in Japan? I can get the dates no problem but I need to know the time. Many thanks in advance.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 17:01, October 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Also what date is chapter 697 supposed to released? I remember you saying that these chapters we get are supposed to be released the following Monday, so actually 10/27. Is that correct?--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 17:04, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

raws for latest chapters
Hasn't there been anything that you thought needed a clarification lately in comparison to MP and MS's translations?--Elve Talk Page 19:28, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Nothing in particular. Generally it worries me that each time MP releases a chapter, people are too hasty to take their word about the translation and are adding it to the articles. Then when MS releases their translation and it differs considerably, MP's statements are kept anyway, even though they may be wrong, or even both of them may be wrong about things. I don't think things get viz/raw check'd enough.--Elve Talk Page 11:25, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ha! Told you ^_ And enjoy your time, sorry for bothering.--Elve Talk Page 20:30, October 24, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks--Elve Talk Page 18:03, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * What was it with Kokuo and his forest? Just an ordinary forest or a specific one?
 * What does Hagoromo say in chapter 693 about mother when lecturing Kakashi about love? (when Naruto and Sasuke jump on statues)
 * Sasuke's words about Sharingan, Rinnegan, reincarnation, immortality whatever
 * Kurama about Sasuke's level and what he did with the chakras
 * Can Kurama absorb natural energy?
 * About Rinnegan of Uchiha Clan latest chapter, in case the raw is out


 * K
 * No idea, they don't have more than 2 chapters uploaded at a time, so it's lost. Ask your translation buddy over at narutoforums please :P
 * That wouldn't make sense contextually, since Naruto asks Sasuke there how does he plan to maintain peace after he dies.
 * Right, so Hagoromo split Kaguya's chakra into chakras for the TB and Sasuke has merged them back into one. Not sure if that counts as COAT tho, since nothing was created there.
 * So Kurama's a Sage?
 * Thanks in advance--Elve Talk Page 18:52, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I thought you would help make it clearer :P Well, Kaguya is immortal and she had the "Sharrinegan" so maybe that makes one immortal? : O
 * I see, so he just has good chakra control or so.
 * Let me rephrase it, can Kurama use Senjutsu? Also I thought I had said we have a definition. Chapter 410 there's a diagram with the 3 energies and "Sage" underneath, so basically Senjutsu user = Sage.--Elve Talk Page 19:07, October 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Nah, the other 3 are in his Sharingan :P There haven't been more than 9 tomoe total at a given time, excluding drawing errors.
 * ^_
 * Well, that's your interpretation though. And the Sage is a legit term used in the manga unlike pseudo-jinchuuriki and tailed beast skill. Fukasaku stated that eye pigment is a mark of a true sage, that being one who perfectly balances all 3 energies for senjutsu chakra, so from that can be deduced that an imperfect sage like Jiraiya didn't have perfect balance, but very close (since he still could mold senjutsu chakra) and from that can be deduced that the term "sage" means a user of senjutsu chakra.--Elve Talk Page 19:55, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

The true sage pigment statement should be exactly when pigment appears around Naruto's eyes, bird lands off on his shoulder and he falls down from the rock. For the Rinnegan, no idea, but 9 seems to be the thing. Kaguya is immortal and Madara stated himself to be immortal too.--Elve Talk Page 21:08, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

So Jiraiya wasn't a Sage?--Elve Talk Page 21:45, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

He didn't have the pigment, did he? Unless I need glasses asap.--Elve Talk Page 21:57, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I thought that was blood?--Elve Talk Page 22:11, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

You mean this? isn't it just the blood spread? Looks quite different from Naruto and Minato's--Elve Talk Page 22:32, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

That's seriously a good catch. All praise lord Seelentau. Although the way we have things worded around here make it sounds like if only Minato and Naruto had the pigment or something--Elve Talk Page 22:47, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

So Rinnegan is Uchiha Clan's doujutsu? 0_o--Elve Talk Page 14:39, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion
Only after you're done with your current conversation, I suggest you archive your page. It's getting long IMO. :) • WindStar7125     22:00, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Chōmei's Bug Powder?
Since Fū used Bug powder, how about bug powder? Justin Holland (talk) 00:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Team
Welcome to the team.I would offer you cookies, but TU3 already ate them ^_^; ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

If my eyes don't deceive me, you're a sysop now... Well congratulations!!!!!Eric Burrell (talk) 01:59, October 26, 2014 (UTC)Eric Burrell

Chat
Hi Tau, I'll be on the chatbox all day, as I'd like to ask something when you get the chance. --Sajuuk Talk Page 08:24, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Get on chat nao ;) --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:31, October 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * *pokes Tau for a chat* :D --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:03, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations
Senpai, congratulations for the promotion. You deserve it indeed. This news made my day, and welcome to the new power with more responsibilities. ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 10:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yah, grats. Hopefully it doesn't mean more ego and more slacking :P--Elve Talk Page 11:16, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's great for the wiki you've become a sysop. Inherit the will of ShounenSuki! • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 12:55, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats Tau! :) ~ IndxcvNovelist →talk • contribs • watty← 15:32, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, Seel-san~! :D-- Ninja Sheik  19:49, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations.— Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:45, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

technically
Doesn't chakra mode count as "version 1" ?--Elve Talk Page 11:39, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Information verification
Regarding Tobiram's use of Madara's corpse in chapter 681 – I know you answered someone's question about this (presumably) but they did not sign their post so I don't know where to look to find that response. Could you confirm what they say about him - if anything at all.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 00:59, October 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wait... I saw you put my name on Cerez's page... what did I ask again?


 * Edit: Nvm, found it. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 01:40, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Dōmo. The sun question section threw me off I guess.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 01:45, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto 697 Raw colored
Right here. :P • WindStar7125     11:22, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Elements Image
tau...buddy...why did you put ? for all of them :D?

I just meant the blaze...the others were fine... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 20:12, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, they weren't. No offense, but that's biased of you. Blaze was no more right or wrong than the others, all of them were unconfirmed--Elve Talk Page 20:16, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

But anyway :P maybe we should be even more anal about it, since Wind+Fire=Scorch too is "unconfirmed"--Elve Talk Page 20:20, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not, Minato confirmed it. On the other hand, looking at the next databook, I don't think the image change was that necessary now. It'll be changed in a month again, anyway. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:23, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Image
Sorry about reverting your edit. For some reason it appears an error when you changed it to .png ''   Dream Big! and "Find your passion and run with it; anything is possible!" '' 20:15, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * Shows for me, make a null-edit--Elve Talk Page 20:18, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

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I don't know what to say about this. But the preview pages for DB4 came out and Akamaru is only 1 year older from Databook 3, he is 8 born July 7th. He was 7 born July 7th in DB3 so what does this mean for the timeline? or am I missing anything here? my minds fuzzy.. also it was confirmed the Hagoromo clan came to earth from another planet or dimension 1000 years ago. It should be added to the timeline boss. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Alright cool, I just got up so I'm not fully awake. Did you translate the pages they gave us as previews already?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:48, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

OMG in the words of a certain somebody I AM SO EXCITE ItachiWasAHero (talk) 13:59, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I see that Obito and Danzo are listed as Izanagi users, but what about Madara? He too did use it--Elve Talk Page 15:11, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * NO HE OBVIOUSLY DIDNT THE DATABOOK IS TRUE AND THE MANGA IS RETCONNED!!!11
 * Na, jk. No idea why he isn't listed. Maybe he used Super-Izanagi. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:18, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

He used Transcription Seal: Izanagi, I have a feeling it will be classified as a different technique than Izanagi and that is why he isn't labeled as a user.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 15:24, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

human origins
It says they were given form, doesn't it?--Elve Talk Page 18:10, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

I see, so humans were created but not necessarily by them. But it doesn't mean Ootsutsuki didn't make them, it's just not confirmed yet, right?--Elve Talk Page 18:17, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

You haven't got the whole text at your disposal, though ;)--Elve Talk Page 18:23, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Databook info
Senpai, I think it's better to create a sub-page in your name like User:Seelentau/Fourth Databook Translations to preserve your talkpage space and keep updating the page when the info will come out frequently. Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:20, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * I already know that, but what I meant here is to put the sub-section of "Databook 4 stuff" in your talkpage into a new page which holds your name there just like what ShonenSuki-sensei did in the previous databooks. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:33, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Did this confirm or deny the stats? Basically, can you translate what the numbers three (3), four (4), and five (5) boxes on the first page that tells you how to read the character files say? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:11, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay- thanks for everything you've done up until now! :) Here is just a quick question I've always wondered- how long does it take you to translate all this stuff, and is it difficult? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 20:39, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

ORAS
talk about a faithful recreation :P--Elve Talk Page 21:48, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Colored
Unfortunately, I haven't. Usually the colored version of the chapters come out late Sunday night or early Monday morning. Sorry. :/ • WindStar7125     04:07, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Saturday morning? Well, we got lucky, didn't we? :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Considering that Sasuke absorbed the tailed beasts using Susanoo as a vessel, and that Kurama noted it was much like the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path when it uses its chains to absorb the tailed beasts, is it plausible to say that Sasuke used the Outer Path to absorb the chakra of the tailed beasts into his Susanoo like the Gedo Mazo? He obviously did use the Rinnegan to absorb the chakras, correct? • WindStar7125     04:20, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Why so quiet these days?
Personal problems have diminished my motivation to do many things. Don't worry, I've only added Yin Release to Nara shadow techniques, and Yang Release to Akimichi size changing ninjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:02, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * The translations I've seen of the Yin-Yang Release parts seem to mention only size-changing as a product of Yang Release. Super Open Hand Slap, Human Bullet Tank and other techniques, while performed when they're enlarged, are taijutsu, so I'm not sure if that applies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:28, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Rinne Sharingan
I suggest you create the article for this doujutsu rather than create a link to a page that doesn't exist in her article. :P Or I can do it myself. Should I? • WindStar7125     17:37, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will. :) Also, can you give me the Kanji for this please? And the literal name? And the page number from the databook? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 17:41, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Removed all Rinne Sharingan info in the Rinnegan article to the newly created Rinne Sharingan article. Not a finished product just yet, but it's a start. :) • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:10, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Tau, since you are a sysop, can you add the Ten-Tails and Madara as users of the Rinne Sharingan on its article?
 * Edit: Can you also add Amenominaka and Infinite Tsukuyomi to a jutsu section of the article? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:32, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. So that wasn't you adding it to the articles... also, the two jutsus I just asked to be added must be removed from the Rinnegan article. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:38, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Come in the chat so we can sort the KM thing out. Sajuuk has some things to say. • WindStar7125     20:18, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

Tailed Beasts
Tau, I have a series of questions to ask:

Do you believe that Minato having Yin-Kurama meant that he had Yin Release? • WindStar7125     22:03, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So that would mean Naruto had Yang Release because of Yang Kurama, correct? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:06, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So if someone had the original Kurama sealed within them, they would have Yin and Yang Release? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:11, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Maybe Yin Release and Yang Release..." Oh, I didn't say Yin-Yang, I said Yin and Yang. Inton and Yoton. Combined with what you said here in this comment, and the fact that Yin Kurama can give Yin release, and Yang Kurama can give Yang Release, and having the original Kurama can give both, does that mean that all tailed beasts have Yin and Yang release (Not Yin-yang/Onmyoton, but Inton and Yoton seperately)? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:23, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * So would it be valid to go to each tailed beast's article and add "Yin Release" and "Yang Release" to their infoboxes? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:34, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well you did say,  And yes, since Kurama's chakra body is made of Yin and Yang, I don't see why the others would be different. Never mind then. At one point, Minato was listed as a Yin Release user due to Yin Kurama (in fact, TU3, Fox-boss and Elve decided that in the chat), so that's why I asked. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:43, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Plain wrong? Oh OK. Thanks. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 22:54, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

wow..
So it covers to chapter 691 making Naruto still 16.. hmm.. Kishi really is a damn troll. I guess that means the preview info box may be his real box, meaning he didn't change from db3 really.. so that means he did indeed start shippuden shorter than 166cm and that he is still 166cm at current time... it should be like 145.3>147.5>??>166cm.. that just doesn't sound right.. I hope the preview info box for him is wrong and does indeed give him new info ItachiWasAHero (talk) 02:52, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

TSB = Kekkei Mōra?
Hijacking this, cause too lazy to make a new section. Some people were adding TSB into characters' infoboxes with reasoning that it's a Kekkei Mora. TSB is a technique using an unnamed kekkei mora rather than itself being one, right? You may reply here--Elve Talk Page 18:13, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Kekkei Genkai "Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Sharingan"
 * Kekkei Mora "Rinne Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Rinne Sharingan"
 * Kekkei Genkai "Yoton" => Element "Yoton"
 * Kekkei Mora "TSB" => Element (?) "TSB" • Seelentau 愛 議 18:16, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. So the "?" will go to the infoboxes, assuming we find out what it's called of course.--Elve Talk Page 18:25, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well yes, the TSB is a technique that uses an unnamed elemental composition. We'll see what it's named, maybe... well, probably we'll not. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:27, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading "A huge TSB... one that has all chakra natures and all bloodline limits." "All chakra natures and bloodline limits" = "Kekkei Mōra," correct? Basically BZ was saying "A huge TSB... one that has a Kekkei Mōra" and not "is a Kekkei Mōra," correct? •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:56, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * No. No idea were I posted the correct translation, though. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:01, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Basically what I'm saying is the TSB is not a Kekkei Mōra, but has an unspecified Kekkei Mōra. • WindStar7125     19:20, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * It is a Kekkei Mora in the same way Yoton is a Kekkei Genkai. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:23, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * The TSB is a KM? I don't know what to think anymore. I hear from Elve that it has an unnamed KM, then I hear from you that it is a KM. I dunno anymore. •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:29, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because everyone's forgetting that Kekkei Genkai (and most likely Kekkei Mora) describe two things: the genetical mutation and the result of that.
 * Kekkei Genkai "Hyoton" => Chakra nature "Hyoton" => Hyoton: Whatever no Jutsu
 * Kekkei Mora "???" => Chakra nature "???" => Truth-Seeking Ball
 * and
 * Kekkei Genkai "Sharingan" => Dojutsu "Sharingan" => Izanagi (or whatever)
 * Kekkei Mora "???" => Dojutsu "Rinne Sharingan" => Kaguya's Jutsu (whatever the name)
 * Okay? • Seelentau 愛 議 19:34, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Naruto's TSB can use Wind, Lightning, Earth, Water, Fire, Yin-Yang, correct? So why isn't his regarded as a KM? Where did the databook state that Naruto's TSB isn't a KM? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:44, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wrong. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:47, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

So what elements can Naruto's use? What do you think? • WindStar7125     19:50, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Wind obviously. Also Naruto doesn't have kekkei mora because he neither has genes for it nor is he TT jinch--Elve Talk Page 19:51, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm asking what Tau thinks, Elveonora. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:54, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I just know that he hates repeating himself, so I saved him the effort--Elve Talk Page 19:56, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I won't act as if I knew how the Gudodama or Kekkei Mora work. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:57, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither do I, but correct me if I'm wrong, 4th databook lists only Wind as Naruto's natures and omits him as Kekkei Mora user. If so, then there's nothing to argue about--Elve Talk Page 20:02, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Because I'm pretty sure this is the vault of everyone who has posted in this section, is there a reason why Truth-Seeking Balls don't appear in anyone's Infobox? I know how this is a circle jerk issue on this wikia, but I consider this something of a problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:09, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because I removed them? Truth Seeking Ball is a technique of an unnamed kekkei mora, not the kekkei mora itself--Elve Talk Page 20:12, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * According to Tau, the TSB is a KM. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:14, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, same way Gentle Fist is. Read above again what he wrote, properly.--Elve Talk Page 20:16, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * He said the KM like the KG, describes two things: the genetic mutation and the result. The TSB is the result, and the genetic mutation is unknown. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:18, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Truth Seeking Ball is a technique of the result. The result is "x release" that is yet to be named. TSB is to it what Lava Shuriken to Lava Release.--Elve Talk Page 20:22, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

I remember Tau saying "It is a Kekkei Mora in the same way Yoton is a Kekkei Genkai." after I asked about the TSB. • WindStar7125     20:26, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * The answer is at the very top of the topic. Anyway, lets take this elsewhere, poor Seel with us spamming his talkpage like this.--Elve Talk Page 20:28, November 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Glad to see none of you actually answered my question. Awesome.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:32, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * A Null Edit appears to have fixed whatever issue I was having. The balls show up in everybody's jutsu list as they are supposed to. Yay me.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:35, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Good TU3. Elve, I remember telling Tau this: "Basically what I'm saying is the TSB is not a Kekkei Mōra, but has an unspecified Kekkei Mōra."
 * Tau says: "It is a Kekkei Mora in the same way Yoton is a Kekkei Genkai." • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:38, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: DB4 Translations
I'm in the process of fully translating the entire Shinobi Compendium section from the preview ("Secret Record of the Origins of Ninjutsu" and "Shadow and Light Style Jutsu"). I'm also using the official Viz terminology in this translation, since I've been extensively referring to the official English chapters for reference--as it turns out, a fair chunk of the text was actually pulled from the chapters, albeit rephrased and restructured in a more encylcopedic way. In progress: User:FF-Suzaku/Databook_4/Shinobi_Compendium. I'm not sure how long it'll take me, because my free time is a bit occupied at the moment. Maybe another day or two. FF-Suzaku (talk) 21:57, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

DB4 Retrieval
Rough estimate for how many hours left until you get the databook you pre-ordered? I intend on creating a new thread in the forums for the purpose of you and others translators to give out new info, since the current one is getting long anyway. • WindStar7125     15:21, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * * facepalm* Forgot about that. But any guy in Japan could just leak the databook on the internet tomorrow. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 15:52, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...told you it would leak... ^_^. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 03:54, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Characters
From here, should I go ahead and add those elements to Neji's infobox then? Or should I wait? • WindStar7125     23:18, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Remove Yin from Naruto? But FF-Suzaku said the databook stated that Naruto demonstrated Yin-Yang Release from restoring Kakashi's eye. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 23:28, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Playing a video game. But I'll do what I have to do with the elements. But you're gonna have to explain why they're being removed. :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 23:39, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Removal of chakra natures
It's too early for that. Akatsuchi has the Earth Chakra nature, yet it's not listed in his databook profile, right? Norleon (talk) 00:01, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Since you're here...
Can you delete this image? It's a duplicate. • WindStar7125     02:40, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. ^_^ • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 02:58, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Confused again...
Okay, Naruto has the five elements and Yang in the databook, but FF-Suzaku confirmed Naruto used Yin-Yang to restore Kakashi's eye... Obito has the five elements and Yin, but the manga, through Tobirama, it confirmed Obito used Yin-Yang to negate ninjutsu... what do we do with that? • WindStar7125     09:09, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, forget it. Never mind. Not that confused anymore. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 09:40, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah, before I forget, are the black eye rings explained? Magnet Release or insomnia?--Elve Talk Page 12:34, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Romanization
Personally, no. I don't like that they don't follow Hepburn standards. They're also not consistent with some of the other Naruto print media that has English text on it. It would be best to keep using our own Hepburn romanizations, since they'll always be consistent and it's also the wiki standard.

The only exceptions to Hepburn should be the characters whose names are clearly meant to be English, like Rock Lee, Pain, Killer B, and Might Guy and his father Might Duy. FF-Suzaku (talk) 10:16, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Why i deleted The last:Naruto Movie from the shippuuden list
Hey do you know why i have to delete 'The Last' from the shippuden movie list because The 'last' doesn't take place in the shippuden time line it takes place in "The Manga's blank period" in other words shippuden is for the 'teenage' naruto time line while The last movie isn't why because Naruto is now a young adult and he is no longer a teenager which is why i deleted The last:Naruto the movie from the shippuden movie list. Johnny1234343 (talk) 13:01, November 5, 2014 (UTC)Johnny1234343Johnny1234343 (talk) 13:01, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

4th Databook Kaguya
Did they make a mistake with her name cause I'm looking at the databook in which the Ootsutsuki says Ootutuki? Akame of the Demon Sword Murasame (talk) 16:52, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Databook names
Most seem fine. FF-Suzaku (talk) 18:05, November 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd change "Ball" to "Sphere" or "Orb," but that's just me.
 * In the instance of 斬り, I'd change "Beheading" to "Slash", and maybe change Reverse Slash to "Rear Slash," since it's the opposite of Front Slash.
 * 自業呪縛の印 would be something like "Self-Binding Curse Seal." The first two kanji come from an idiom that means "making your own bed and lying in it."
 * Jakuhō (省蜂) seems like it might be a play on 雀蜂 (Yellow jacket). Make of that what you will. Also, don't forget the Magnet Release.
 * "Extremely Steaming" to "Oversteam" (cooking term, "steam too much").


 * In the case of Jugo's attacks, maybe the best thing would be to just combine the wordplay as "Cellular Regeneration." Or you could go scientific and start looking into terms like mitosis, and try to come up with something similar. 舌禍 means "slip of the tongue," you could probably translate it as "snitch" or something similar. As for Tate Eboshi... This is all I can find in terms of yokai, and it looks pretty obscure. The katakana furigana might just be because it's associated with Shinto, but I really don't know. I'm not turning up much of anything. FF-Suzaku (talk) 18:49, November 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, and Self-Binding already innately conveys that they did it themself. I think it would be redundant to add more words in an attempt to emphasize that. FF-Suzaku (talk) 18:51, November 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * I was suggesting translating it as "Self-Binding Curse Seal", but maybe simply "Self-Cursing Seal" would be better? 自業 means "doing it to yourself," basically. So, if the attack name is trying to convey "seal that makes you curse yourself by your own actions", "Self-Cursing Seal" is more than sufficient to convey that. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:32, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Databook names
Oh, okay sure :) I think I was too fast and I bet most of them You translated, are correct, so easy Senpai ;) 【I'm just... Mad | 語聞見】 17:21, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Fourth Databook translations?
In your new thread, about the Fourth Databook's translation, are you only translating the names of the techniques or you will also be doing more info on them and overall anything?

link
could you link me to a page where links to all the data book images are and the page where you are typing in your already translated work please. TY Munchvtec (talk) 18:28, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

The thing is, I'm not looking for a few specific pages or so, but for the whole Databook. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking you to translate all of it.

Spoilers
Please delete this image. I know that I'm supposed to go to the Sysops Requests page, but they take too long to respond, and this has got to go. Many thanks. • WindStar7125     00:30, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Shinju & Ten-Tails
What is your opinion on this? I think what Obito summoned is another form of the TT, rather than the Shinju, because the Shinju didn't have the Rinne Sharingan. I think you had the same point as I did here. In the end of chapter 645, Obito summoned a TBM replica of the TT that transformed into a tree in 646. It was referred to as the Shinju in 646 by Gyūki. However, Hagoromo showed Naruto the original Shinju in 670, which didn't have a Rinne Sharingan. I was under the impression that Kaguya fused with the tree Hagoromo showed in 670. And in chapter 673, page 6, the voice in the tree stated Obito's tree was the TT. In the 4th databook, Obito's tree was referred to as the divine tree, but that same databook had Obito's tree appear as another form of the TT here. So what do you think? Do you have the same opinion as you did in the second link I gave, or is it different? I would like to know your opinion on that in the first link I gave, rather than on my talkpage. • WindStar7125     05:02, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 07:06, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. I think this has to be addressed.


 * Edit: Can you at least address it after you're done with translations? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 21:46, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

deletion
Thanks for deleting that episode article, I didn't think it had been released yet. Considering how many times OmegaRasengan has been warned to stop doing this (and the fact he continues every week), can you block him for 3 days? --Sajuuk Talk Page 10:24, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to get involved Seel but Ultimate3 and Ten-Tailed Fox have told Spey numerous times I have not done anything wrong regarding this matter. This and this being recent. This is all I'll say on the matter. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 10:29, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Omega, you are actually very good at guilt tripping everyone else and acting like you don't break policies on a daily basis. I spoke to TU3 the last time you did this and he agreed with me that you violated policy. So did Ten Tailed Fox. Stop guilt tripping other users and acting like you have immunity to every policy on this wiki by using sysops to back you up.
 * Tau, if you want to talk about this with me, I will be on chat. I won't be getting in any more flame wars involving Omega on talkpages. --Sajuuk Talk Page 10:33, November 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well Seel if it is to be abbided for now on, so be it. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 10:49, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Chapter 699
Senpai, the chapter is out, its title is The Seal of Reconciliation, 和解の印, Wakai no In .. I can't make the article here... So it's better for you to create it. Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 10:56, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Y/N? Norleon (talk) 18:43, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Could you please help me?
I was wondering if you could tell me what is said in the fourth databook about Might Guy and the last gates and corresponding techniques? I've been trying to find the translation everywhere. I would really lke to know what is said about the afternoon tiger and especially the eight gates released formation, evening elepphant and night guy. Thanks in advance for any help!--Jusmick (talk) 16:18, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Chōchō
So you undid my edit for Chōchō's trivia. Why make I ask? Rachin123 (talk) 19:44, November 7, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Oh wait is it because of her grandmother and Karui not having markings? If so we could change it Chōchō is the only known Akimichi clan member born into the clan and not have markings. Rachin123 (talk) 19:49, November 7, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Re: Articles without content
At least I'm adding the articles that we need to add, which should've been added a long time ago.. I'm adding the stub category as well so that anyone could update the page anytime to help out. The jutsu pages do have infoboxes, so they have some content.--Omojuze (talk) 20:32, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * If that bothers you, I won't add any more, but somebody eventually should... If your picky, I'm just gonna ignore it for now, if that would make you pleased.--Omojuze (talk) 20:38, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I'm afraid of grammar mistakes >.< . Also, we add every single action from game movesets, right? Even when the user uses a jutsu that is strikingly similiar to his other one (for example Third Raikage using Hell Stab and a different game jutsu to side swap using Lightning Chakra Mode-induced Hell Stab)--Omojuze (talk) 21:00, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

wonderin'...
Any indication in the databook about Tailed Beasts having biological gender/sex?--Elve Talk Page 11:32, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

DB Hinata's connection with Otsutsuki
Hi Seelentau, I'm new to this wiki, I can't understand Japanese, I just wanted to know is there any connection of Hinata with Otsutsuki, it just occured to me that Hinata is shown beside Kaguya and Kimimaro in page 9. Here is the link Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 09:14, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

does the fourth databooks say naruto has kekkai genkai because his page states he has 3 Actionmanrandell (talk) 11:46, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Colored Manga (again)
Hehehe... Blah! • WindStar7125     20:19, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * They colored Guruguru green, fail.--Elve Talk Page 23:17, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Countdown Translation
Hey Seel, how are you? I was just wondering if you could translate, this page, just to see if there is any new info ? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 21:37, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi and MInato
You said the databook gives more info on his timeline, and that he enters Akatsuki at age 15 right? what exactly does his db4 page say?? Also I read somewhere that Minato saved a Jinchuriki from Kirigakure and that sparked the 3rd world war 27yrs age from Naruto and Sasuke's final fight? Is any of that true? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 04:27, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

oh, yeah!
Before I forget... considering, that plenty of fodders have got an entry in the databook... there must be something about the other two mysterious members of Team Jiraiya, right?--Elve Talk Page 19:20, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

I get it so absolutely nothing? That's puzzling. I guess mystery it is meant to be.--Elve Talk Page 20:48, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Shippers
A lot of shippers (NaruHina, SasuSaku) have been coming here lately. Glad you were here to handle that mess. :) Though this might be a problem in the future. • WindStar7125     02:27, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Magnet Release
When listing an advanced nature in the nature section alone, is it suppose to automatically list the kekkei genkai?--Minamoto15 (talk) 19:12, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Cellular Regenaration Absorption
Could you please move this to Cellular Regeneration Absorption? It is a redirect so I cannot do that.--LeafShinobi (talk) 18:55, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 19:01, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Bō
Hi. Kannst du bitte Shitō Akimichi und Maruten Akimichi unter den Bō-Nutzern eintragen? Ich darf mal wieder nicht. Norleon (talk) 20:44, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Du bist mir ein Admin! :D
 * Na ja, in der Regel wie sonst auch, "edit tools" und dann unter den softtdirects die beiden alphabetisch in die Zeile einfügen. Oder kannst du ebenfalls die Änderungen nicht speichern? Norleon (talk) 20:51, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Vielen Dank! :) Norleon (talk) 21:04, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Bad scans
I can see most of what I want for now, I've been adding databook references. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:56, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

God: Nativity of a World of Trees
The current information we have on that article is that it is a Kekkei Mōra, requires the dōjutsu power of the Rinne Sharingan, and is not Wood Release. Is that all correct, according to the databook? • WindStar7125     03:55, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Gamabunta's size in Databook 4...
Shouldn't this be one of the things we discount? His size was shown to be far larger than just 17 meters, maybe they missed a couple zeroes after all.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 05:21, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Yagura
If the fourth databook says it was Mei Terumī that Zabuza tried to assassinate, then how could it be likely that Yagura was his target? Arawn 999 (talk) 16:32, November 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. Now I'm curious as to why there was an edit made saying that it was stated in the databook. Arawn 999 (talk) 16:47, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Six Paths Chakra
Sorry for the run-on paragraphs, but WindStar7125 and I have gotten into something of an editing dispute and I was told to talk to you.

I was rereading the manga, and I came across something that clashes with what the wiki says: Hagoromo tells Naruto that the reason he - and by extension Sasuke - was able to speak to his ghost was because he had attained Six Paths Chakra - like how Minato, Kushina, and Obito's ghosts were able to speak to others through their chakra. Naruto attained Six Paths Chakra from having the chakra of all nine tailed beasts,(Chapter 671, page 9) and Sasuke from apparently receiving a transfusion of Hashirama's cells - which contained Asura's chakra - from Kabuto. (Chapter 664, page 4) What Hagoromo's ghost gave to them were the Six Paths Yang Power (to Naruto) and the Six Paths Yin Power (to Sasuke) in order to seal Jinchuriki Madara, and those were returned to him after Kaguya's sealing. Regarding Sasuke's Rinnegan, Hagoromo states that in order to awaken the Rinnegan an Uchiha has to unlock Six Paths Chakra by being an incarnation of Indra and assimilating Asura's chakra, like what Madara did by transplanting Hashirama's flesh into his own body. When Kabuto was resuscitating Sasuke on page 4 of chapter 667, he says (according to the only translation I've been able to find) "With my medical ninjutsu, the cells of Hashirama I've studied thus far, and someone's advice... I could somehow save his life." This suggests that Kabuto infused Sasuke with Senju cells to heal him, Asura's chakra in those cells reacted with Indra's chakra within Sasuke's body, forming Six Paths Chakra, which allowed Sasuke to speak to Hagoromo's ghost and awaken the Rinnegan. What Hagoromo's ghost gave Sasuke was the Six Paths Yin Power, which returned to him after Kaguya was sealed.

According to WindStar7125, Hashirama's cells can't be used to awaken the Rinnegan because he died and Asura's chakra was passed on to Naruto. But if Kabuto didn't infuse Sasuke with Senju cells, how did Sasuke acquire Six Paths Chakra? He can't have got it from Hagoromo's chakra-ghost because according to Hagoromo himself in order to be able to speak to his chakra-ghost they had to already have Six Paths Chakra in the first place. As for whether or not Hashirama's cells could be used to activate the Rinnegan, Orochimaru and Kabuto (who was following in the former's footsteps) certainly thought so because they were experimenting with Sage Mode, Senju cell implantation, and wanted a live Uchiha in order to "learn the secret of the Sage of Six Paths", as Kabuto put it in Chapter 521. If that's too implicit, Guruguru outright told Obito that if he was lucky the Zetsu tissue (which contained Hashirama's cells) that Madara patched him up with would interact with his Sharingan to awaken a new power - referring to the Rinnegan - which could only happen if they still contained traces of or a connection to Asura's chakra. Arawn 999 (talk) 08:15, November 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Debate's still ongoing. So, is there any definitive answer to whether Hashirama's cells still contained traces of Asura's chakra capable of awakening the Rinnegan in one of Indra's reincarnations? Or is WS7125 right and Hashirama's cells couldn't be used to awaken the Rinnegan because he died and Asura's chakra was passed on to Naruto? Arawn 999 (talk) 08:54, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, chapter 681 page 3, Sasuke stated that he and Naruto received those amazing abilities from the Sage of Six Paths' powers, so I'm going with what the manga said. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 16:01, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Translation
O.o Apologies for that. I guess I got caught up in the fact that there was a translator present to translate that for me. That didn't have anything to do with the 4th databook. Won't happen again. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 02:50, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto Uzumaki
Seel on page 28 Naruto Uzumaki, does he have Yin release? because it is not mentioned in Databook, but it is mentioned in infobox.Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 12:33, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * another question why are we not naming what is in the data book like Ashura is in databook instead of AsuraNaruto uzu6254 (talk) 14:29, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised they went with that spelling, since it's supposed to be a reference to Hinduism and I've only ever seen it spelled "asura". Arawn 999 (talk) 16:57, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Chakra
Apologies for bothering you (like always), but to my understanding, the Six Paths chakra = Hagoromo's chakra (please correct me if I'm wrong there). Due to that, I have a series of questions to ask of you:


 * Did Hagoromo transfer the Six Paths Chakra to Naruto and Sasuke? Or did they already have it to meet Hagoromo?


 * Due to the fact that Indra + Asura = Six Paths Chakra and Rinnegan, would it be plausible to state that every Rinnegan user has the Six Paths chakra?


 * Is saying the Six Paths Sage Chakra = Six Paths Chakra + senjutsu chakra a valid assumption?

Many thanks for your time. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 03:57, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hiden+Kekkei Genkai?
Hello, Seel-san. I've been wondering this for a while, but some techniques, like these ones, have been called both hiden and kekkei genkai. So what should we do with their infoboxes? Put only the kekkei genkai tag or the hiden one as well?-- JOA20 19:39, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Whoops, you answered right when I was going to bump this topic. Anyway, while I think you are correct, what shoulfd we do with the jutsu's infoboxes? Put just Kekkei Genkai or Hiden too (obviously only in the cases where it was labeled as Hiden as well)?--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:15, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hehe, alright, will do.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:21, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Databook Classification
I don't have a databook so if my edits class with them then just put "databook classification" or something like that when you revert my edits :).Cloudtheavenger (talk) 20:42, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in, but Tau is a sysop for the exact reason that he is a translator. There is no reason to go around reverting his edits and claim he is wrong. It'd be like Suki-sensei making edits and me reverting them for no particular reason. In all fairness, you removing Tau's edits could be considered vandalism, as you are removing valid information from the site. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:44, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * What Sajuuk said. By the revert policy, the act of reverting valid edits is classified as vandalism. So please, stop. Seriously. Or you could get blocked. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 20:57, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Did not know that but now I do and I will do exactly that.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 21:01, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Archive 2
I kindly suggest you do so. Your talkpage has gotten long IMO. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 00:31, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken
Could you provide the source for this edit? Thanks.-- JOA20 16:36, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would like to have a source for the part. Not that I doubt you, on the opposite, but it would help (not to mention that the page is protected so only sysops like you can edit it). Also, I'd like your opinion on the topic a little above (Hiden and Kekkei Genkai).--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:13, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Magnet Release and curse marks
Hi Translator-san, what were the hints in the databook that suggests Shukaku's Magnet Release is associated with his curse marks. NoJutsu (talk) 08:36, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

What's the difference?
Kanzentai, Kenseitai... It's not a matter of translation but where the terms apply? I'm confuzzled. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 16:50, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

...
You don't have to respond to me on my talkpage. But just as a heads-up.... he's back. And he might be ready for more of a long ass debate. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 16:14, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Natural energy
Is there any new information in the 4th db for Juugo's ability to absorb natural energy? The manga somewhat suggests that it is a kekkei genkai but definitely not in a way to draw any clear conclusions, so was it ever clarified in the new databook? NoJutsu (talk) 17:14, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

The Last Prologue?
Hey Seel, how are you? I was just wondering if you could translate this link:. It says something about a prologue for The Last, and it shows the battles between Asura and Indra, Hashirama and Madara, and Naruto and Sasuke. What is this exactly? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 18:15, November 28, 2014 (UTC)