User talk:GokūBlack10

"Do not underestimate the visual prowess of the Uchiha, child!" — Obito Uchiha

Re: Don't Worry
Elevnora is an ass I should have blocked months ago. He's rude, condescending, he's the first one to bitch about bias but is open about his disdain for characters and the worst part of it is nothing could or can be done because his actions are done well enough that things against done against him does look like an abuse of power. Did you think I blammed you coming in as an attack on you? No no no. I know you would be the one who would fight back and turn the entire Sunday or Monday now into a long back and forth which will either end with myself of SnapperTo making a decision and we both know how my decision making has been taken as of late. What you do about the fuster cluck is your choice. The demonic statue at the very least won't be merged and to hell what they did on the German wiki. If memory serves me correctly this is not the German Wiki.

If you would be so inclined
would you care to weigh in on the discussion | here? I believe I have proven Seelentau's entire analysis of Magnet Release to be entirely incorrect. I have every intention of appealing to sysops to allow me to list Gaara as user so I would appreciate your input.--Reliops (talk) 01:21, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks, Fox, for your warning.

UDY (talk) 21:32, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Ur pain...
I just shared Ur pain of arguing with elve...it's a tough one...now I know that feeling bro...suddenly snapper2's profile flashed in my head... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:34, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

that would be defying reality...I prefer ignoring him cuz he wants to push his ideas & beliefs on others...but I think Ur process is sth similar too...although I know he too cares about this wiki...but some of his features mess the thing up...anyways...thanx 4 Ur opinions regarding shinju...I also brought sth else up in its talk page...would appreciate it if U gave Ur opinion about that too...U'll find it easily...if U care though... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 22:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yes Foxie, I'm not a real person, just an imagination in your head that refuses to go away no matter the amount of pills you take.--Elveonora (talk) 08:23, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad you feel the same way ;) ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 17:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then you might as well get used to me and cope with the fact that I'm not going anywhere :D--Elveonora (talk) 17:16, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * We all need to get used to you, unfortunately. We all do. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 17:18, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Could use your help
with reversing the Magnet Release stuff in articles.--Reliops (talk) 22:09, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't there some mod tool so you can mass select articles to edit?--Reliops (talk) 22:12, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

What a pain. OK, screw it, I'll get started. As I recall you did write a bit on Jiton for Gaara's page, do you mind redoing that?--Reliops (talk) 22:14, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Appreciated.--Reliops (talk) 22:17, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

I've added Magnet Release nature type to Bunpuku since that was also removed. That okay?--Reliops (talk) 23:18, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Jump
Weekly Shonen Jump αlpha is what they called the magazine in the first year, back when it was on a two-week delay from Japan. They changed the name to Weekly Shonen Jump when it went simultaneous with Japan. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:01, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, sir
How are you doing recently? I wanted to say that I wanted to add a precise citation to the Truth-Seeking Ball technique article, and I also know exactly the source of that name, but the article is locked so people can't have an edit war with the nature transformation and is on neutral, which is perfectly reasonable. I need help, please. It's just a minor edit. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Um...
Not trying to start another big TSB debate on your talkpage, but isn't Lightning Release supposed to be in Naruto's infobox? I thought we said in this discussion that Naruto has all five elements, and you wouldn't add Yin until a databook came... (and to anyone reading this who isn't Ten Tailed Fox, please, don't start another debate on his talkpage) -- WindStar7125   19:27, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And also, why didn't you add Yin and Yang along with Yin-Yang in the TSB infobox? You do need Yin and Yang to use Yin-Yang, right? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:05, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting they be separated. I'm saying that the TSB infobox should be this: Wind, Fire, Water, Earth, Lightning, Yin, Yang and Yin-Yang, instead of Wind, Fire, Water, Earth, Lightning and Yin-Yang. I'm not saying replace Yin-Yang with Yin and Yang separately, I'm saying add Yin and Yang with Yin-Yang. For example, you need Earth and Water to have Wood, right? I'm saying you need Yin and Yang to have Yin-Yang. Not separate, but add. This is what I mean. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:17, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh OK, so what you mean is like, for example, the article Sage Art: Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands, it is a wood release technique, but you don't add water and earth to its infobox because they are premixed elements?-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:34, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Apology & Question
Don't bother with it, I didn't behave like an adult either. I honestly don't care if you put Gaara as a MR user or not, but I just can't stand discussing with close-minded people who devaluate my work. It's part of the ego I built up in the last seven years of wiki work.

You probably know my way of thinking by now, but let me tell you again: I think we should only document, not draw conclusions, how logical they might sound to us. Because every conclusion might sound like bullshit in the ears of someone else. So in the TSB case, we should write down that Kaguya's TSB contain all natures, Obito's at least four and YYR later and don't know about Madara, did he ever negate something with his TSBs? As for Naruto, there never was a statement about his natures. Since the use of all natures seems to be a pretty big feat, it's weird that - if Naruto's TSB contain all natures - Black Zetsu never mentioned this. If all TSB have all natures, Black Zetsu wouldn't have waited with that statement or make it seem like such a big feat in the first place. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:23, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * But it's impossible to do the same in the MR issue? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:06, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then where do we draw the line? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:49, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then who decides if something taken from the manga is supporting an argument or not? People often dismiss arguments as "straw grasping", completely ignoring the validity of the argument and basically devaluing what the opposite is saying. So who decides if references are "too flimsy" or not? • Seelentau 愛 議 01:15, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * So if enough users are in favor of something, it simply becomes "correct"? • Seelentau 愛 議 01:42, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

re: Naruto, Kaguya, the SPS, and the TSB
Considering the last time I came after you with my opinion on the matter, what you did was show me where the exit doors are and moved the topic to your archive so you wouldn't have to discuss it with me, that's why I find it strange that suddenly here you are coming after me, showing interest in my opinion on the matter, talk about a sudden change of heart. Not sure if I should be paranoid about your intentions. Anyway:


 * Yes, chakras of all Tailed Beasts without a slightest doubt play a role in SPST and TSB, but they are but pieces of the puzzle
 * Yes, I agree that it's the above + Senjutsu, but we were also told it's "six paths chakra" and we haven't got the slightest clue about what that is... is six paths chakra Senjutsu? If yes, then Sasuke has Senjutsu and if not, then it's another, third piece of the puzzle that SPST and TSB are, which makes it more complicated

For the rest:
 * This is where I disagree with most of the fandom and the wikia in general, people for some strange reason connected Zetsu reacting to Naruto Kurama's Yang chakra as "Yang Release" even though Yamato said it is because of life force, I really don't follow the logic of the majority when it comes to this
 * The thing is, Naruto hasn't been seen talking to the Tailed Beasts in regards to his TSB. Chakra automatically isn't an element, nature transformation has to be applied to it. So the Tailed Beasts simply providing Naruto their chakras doesn't grant him their natures (just like Naruto transferring his chakra to the Shinobi Alliance doesn't make them all Wind Release users), they have to mold their chakras first into the natures. Each time they did this regarding the Rasengan variants, it was shown on panel, yet never regarding the TSB, that's why I'm skeptical about their involvment and provision of natures for the aforementioned technique.
 * Same thing with Yin Kurama as Naruto Yang Kurama's chakra, Yin Kurama doesn't equal Yin Release. If I were to apply your logic of thought, then complete Kurama would equal Yin-Yang Release and I'm certain you agree it doesn't.

So to sum it up, these are pretty much the reasons for why I disagree with you and why we fight and insult each other as little children:
 * No evidence that Naruto uses the Tailed Beasts' natures for TSB, because if he did, why would he ask them for the natures when he wants to make a fancy Rasengan if according to you he already has them in TSB? Why does he need an assistance with Rasengan but not TSB?
 * No confirmed (from my point of view) Yin and Yang natures in either Naruto or the Tailed Beasts.
 * The TBBRS instance, why was it Wind Release and not Marvelous All Natures Release?

I think it's pointless to argue at this point, considering Naruto and Sasuke's final battle has begun. If Sasuke cuts Naruto's TSB with words: "Lightning beats Wind, haha" we will know I was right. If Sasuke's technique clashes against Naruto's TSB and Naruto fails to nullify Sasuke's technique, then either Sasuke has Senjutsu, or we will know I was right and there's no YYR involved.--Elveonora (talk) 19:18, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

What would it take?
What would it take for me to have some sort of position here on the wiki. I feel like I've been here a while and heavily rely on this wiki. So i wanted to know how i could gain even a minor position of power. Riptide240 (talk) 01:05, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Minato namekaze (talk) 06:30, September 20, 2014 (UTC) i live in south asia.... so is the anyway, i can prescribr RAWS or WSJ for me.....?

Enton Amaterasu
It seems you don't exactly oppose the notion, I get it, right? So if a consensus were to be reached, you would have no problems with edits be made I suppose--Elveonora (talk) 19:36, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

My Userpage
Could you delete it? It's not like I actually deserved one; I'm pretty sure I only made it because I used to hate my name appearing in red.  Yuri Bara   Message me 02:10, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that...
For ending the discussion. Shipping discussions should never be allowed. Ever. Some people can't get it through their thick skulls that there is another wiki for such irrelevant discussions, and not here. Not on your wiki or this one. Again, thanks. Certain people on that thread were going to keep replying as long as I did, no matter how hard I was trying not to fight and stay reserved and calm at the end. So thanks for (lemme put it bluntly) shutting people up on that thread. Including myself.

Edit: I didn't want to argue anymore, so I'm trying to stay away from forums as much as I can. But I had to let others know what's allowed here and what isn't. -- WindStar7125   23:57, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, @Foxie! However, please elaborate a little more on what I should do as chat moderator. I got the rollback rights covered, but please, a little explanation... :D -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 00:12, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will do my best to try and keep the peace and make sure no unnecessary things come up, rather than use the aggressive approach I used to have and am trying not to lean on again. Whether it be forums, chats, or on the wiki itself, I try to keep the peace. If that doesn't work, I'll make the peace. Again, thank you. :) -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 00:20, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Question: Let's say some people are arguing on the chat, and I tell them once, twice or thrice to stop, would that give me the right to kick them out? I know I can't kick others out if they're fussy or have an attitude, that would be abusing my privileges, but when would it be right to kick them out, after I warn them once, twice or thrice? Thanks in advance. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:56, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

So I can warn them once and just kick them out if the ignore the first warning? -- WindStar7125   20:08, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright then, thanks. :) Subtle question here: not that I don't like the promotion (I really do, lemme make that clear), but why me? There are many other good contributors to this wiki as well. Why me specifically? -- WindStar7125  WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:12, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. :) -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 23:13, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Once again, thank you, and I'll do my best to not disappoint. :)

Edit: Just so you know... and after this I'll leave you be... Like how people call you "Foxie" instead of "Ten Tailed Fox," you can call me "Windy" rather than "WindStar." Saves you the typing, after all :P -- WindStar7125   00:11, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Agreement
Hello, my friend- how are you today? If you are not aware, I have started a debate about possibly creating a new arc on the Wiki Discussions Board since the Infinite Tsukuyomi is no longer a prime threat/focus of the story. Since you seem to agree that a new arc should be created, I would greatly appreciate it if you would leave your thoughts on the forum. After all, you are a very influential person on the wiki, and so I'm sure you can add a lot of insight into the debate. Thanks, and have a great day! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:25, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

May I...
Be added to the list of forum moderators (that red marker thing)? Sajuuk said here (in his third comment) that I can contact you if I felt I wanted to be added. I know I said that I'd refrain from giving my opinions of Naruto on the forums (because seemingly every time I do so, somebody wants to argue), but I still do my best to remove posts that possibly start fights, warn users to stop fighting (or warn them if they violate the forum policy) and also remind them to get back on topic. I am aware of what goes on in the forums and I do my best to clean them up (regardless of what happens). A simple yes or no and reasoning would be fine, Ten. Thanks in advance. -- WindStar7125   19:23, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yang Release
Are you purposely being an asshole? The manga attributes it to life force, not yang chakra.--Elve Talk Page 16:54, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

request
Hey dude, just wondering if it could be possible for me to become a chat moderator? I've been in the chat quite frequently and have helped to keep order there when possible. I have experience of being a chat moderator from another wiki so I know how to use the tools as intended. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:20, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no issues with SuperSajuuk being a chat mod. He's more than responsible for the job. While it is great to be the chat mod, I'm not here 24 hours a day. It would be great to have extra help and take advice from SuperSajuuk, a more experienced user than I am. Like you told me, "there is no such thing as too much good help." He would be great help. -- WindStar7125 [Moderator] WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 19:52, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for granting chat mod! :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:55, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

This needs attention
User Kris.gilson.12 has been questioning the content of Kakashi's article and has made edits like this. (No, I am not asking that he be blocked) He has made a talkpage topic here, in an attempt to get attention to what he sees as chronologically inconsistent information. According to him, he has put a similar topic on Kakashi's talkpage and been waiting a month for someone to respond, but with no avail. I've personally told him that I will make sure this topic gets attention (in order to stop him from removing the information). Please go to Kakashi's talkpage and respond to it. He has a point he'd like to make. Again, not requesting he be blocked. Thanks for your time. • WindStar7125     02:51, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

New idea
I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. Munchvtec (talk) 17:10, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Me.
Look: I know you aren't too fond of me and to be quite frank, I'm not too fond of you. Unlike the others on NF, I don't kiss (insert word here) - I'm not a yes man. To keep this at a short, sweet and to the point level, Kaycherry and I had a little problem six months ago, which, in my stupidity, resulted in various obscenities being thrown at her. I'll send you a link if you want, however, it'll have to be through Chatango, because I wouldn't want to be "advertising" sites here. I can guarantee you, however, that the insults, despite being unneeded, were hardly offensive (just immature) and quite tritely, barely even deserving of a permanent ban.

I have gone out of my way to ask various admins to allow me to at least edit on the website. Keep me off the chat. Let me edit. After all, I haven't caused any trouble on the site itself.

NFC (Naruto Fanon Central) is dead. The only live Naruto-based fandom wiki is of course.... Yours. I don't think I should be permanently banned for telling someone to go (insert word here) themselves with sandpaper and razors. :/

Regards, ◄♫♫ S  •   W  •   A  •   N   ♦   H  •  D  ♫♫► 11:04, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

I would really appreciate it if you replied. ◄♫♫ S  •   W  •   A  •   N   ♦   H  •  D  ♫♫► 23:29, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Canon
Hey Foxie. This may be random, but just wondering, can you give me your definition of the word "canon?" I have a pretty good sense on what it means, but I'm wondering what you have to say. Thanks. • WindStar7125     19:11, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

@Foxie, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm getting the impression that you don't want The Last to be canon no matter what, for personal reasons.--Elve Talk Page 20:08, October 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * You are indeed wrong. I don't care if the movie is canon or not. I'm actually rather indifferent, as far as my personal feelings go. In fact, saying as such would be like me accusing you of the opposite, because your words and actions come across as begging for the movie to be canon. In fact, that is the very presence you, and everyone else in that thread, exudes. The reason I'm so adamant about distinguishing this movie as non-canon is because it simply isn't. I don't give a fiddler's damn about a tagline, nor Kishimoto's involvement in the process. As I said, he was this involved with the last movie, and many mangaka are very involved in the non-canon aspects of their story. But if someone doesn't put their foot down and say, "Unless Kishimoto says otherwise, its not canon", then the moment the movie comes out, there is a large portion of the wiki that will start labeling it canon simply for the fact that it takes place after the manga and Kishimoto was involved.


 * To reiterate, if Kishimoto wants it to be canon, he will say so. Toriyama did so twice and so I don't see why Kishimoto wouldn't if that's how he wants it. If he doesn't want it as such, he will do as he has done with every other movie: nothing. And, subsequently, we will add it as movie-only content. And make no mistake of it: without Kishimoto's official stamp of approval, I will personally stop every single attempt from any user to make it canon. We aren't, in your own words, in the business of producing fanon: overhyping a movie as canon, when no other movie has been canon before it, and Kishimoto has done nothing to announce it as such is just that --- creating fanon. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 20:28, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Can I...
Talk with you about something in private (meaning in the chat)? I have a certain question to ask of you. • WindStar7125     23:34, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

The TSB... again
Just a question, though: Didn't we agree to wait with adding all natures to every user, until we have more information? • Seelentau 愛 議 23:37, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I just wondered.^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 23:48, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's the first thing I'm going to check, right after the Magnet Release issue. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:53, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, there'll probably be some translations done by takL and others before I get my copy of the book. I suggest that we wait for me, though.
 * I actually got the demo earlier today/yesterday. It's nice, but kinda boring. The real games are gonna be huge, though. Like, best versions ever-huge. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:44, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

By the way...
From eavesdropping your messaging between you and Tau just now (about the TSB), if Elve decides to "invade" your talkpage with the "Naruto's TSBs are Wind and only Wind" notion, TU3 has told me personally if Elve keeps insisting after warning him here and here as well, he'll block him. So I'll be surprised if Elve brings it up again... then again... it's Elve, so I shouldn't be that surprised if he does. • WindStar7125     00:25, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm predictable, but not that predictable :P No, I said everything that I had to say on the matter. There's no point in arguing with the databook so close.--Elve Talk Page 12:00, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's good to hear from you. ^_^ • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 12:08, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Advice
I need a little advice on something. Care to chat? • WindStar7125     20:09, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Can't get you to chat, so I'll ask here: A certain user recently requested me to make him a rollback. I read over his reasons and this was my response (a very lengthy one). What exactly do you think? I, in no way, was trying to be harsh or condescending in my response. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 00:31, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bump. :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:05, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * I already put it on your talk page. It starts with "Can't get you to chat..." :P • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 18:15, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * So not making him a rollback was the right choice? Because I didn't feel it was necessary. Would you have done the same if he requested you? What's your personal opinion on him possibly being one? (this is what I wanted to discuss in the chat, but I digress, :P).


 * Edit: Him requesting me to make him a rollback is the third time he has done so, after being rejected from his first and second attempts. Both times, Spey has told him he doesn't need it. I have no clue why he covets the rollback flag like it's a symbol of promotion or power, or acts like he deserves it, but I didn't think I should have given it to him knowing he had requested it a multitude of times before. He is persistent. •  WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 00:21, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

The Last thread
Don't you think that it should be locked and a continuation thread be made, since it's getting grossly huge? It may be troublesome for people with slower computers and internet connections, myself included :P--Elve Talk Page 18:02, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Close this pls
Thread:130781. I opened a new one here. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:17, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Elve and Tau are right. That thread is getting too large. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 14:21, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Image Deletion
Hello TTF I'm asking if you could delete a image I uploaded. It has a slight bug in it that I didn't notice. My fault I should've looked at it more carefully but here's the link. Thank you http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kakuzu_Attacks_Shikamaru.jpg Rachin123 (talk) 16:01, October 20, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Thank you for deleting the image above. But may I bother you to delete another picture? I found a better picture but its not exactly the same so I cant replace it and thus need to be deleted as it'd be a waste of space. Thank you again http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sai_displays_taijutsu.jpg Rachin123 (talk) 22:55, October 25, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Trolling from Cerez
I'd appreciate if you could look into Cerez365's contribution to my talkpage (here). I felt that Cerez's message was belligerent, bordering on trolling, and I feel that you are the most capable to look into this issue, when you have the time.

For your convenience, I have quoted the message that he recently left me: "Forgive the sarcasm. I should have made it painstakingly clear that your input was not necessary. I will know better next time. Maybe you should leave mainspace affairs to people who actually contribute to it." Many thanks for your assistance. --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:03, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Request of Removal
Can you please remove the word "Shinju" from the infoboxes of these five articles:
 * Furrow (volume)
 * Declaration of War
 * Battle of the Death inside the Water Prison!! (volume)

Reasons: The Shinju and the Ten-Tails are not one and the same, the real Shinju debuted in chapter 670, anything before that was the Ten-Tails' Tree Form, and the holy tree Hagoromo showed Naruto in chapter 670 does not have the Rinnegan. Thanks in advance.

Edit: Also, I apologize for creating unnecessary and unneeded talkpages (that I eventually had to put delete tags on) for the purpose of removing something that is factually incorrect. No need for discussion on that, and I figured out through the process that contacting a sysop is better than asking for one on five different talkpages. • WindStar7125     23:18, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

The Sysop Stuff
How much longer are those going to stay open and then what?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:57, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Indra's Arrow
I too jumped the gun at first, but we shouldn't. If I were to name my car after you, that wouldn't mean that you made the car nor that you have ridden it, either.--Elve Talk Page 13:38, October 24, 2014 (UTC)