Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180730091858/@comment-28247797-20180830224648

@Nashikeine 1)Well of course he used Susanoo to block it because he was distracted and Oonoki helped Naruto. What point are you making? Him using Susanoo doesn't matter given the circumstances. That doesn't give a point to Naruto at all. It means nothing.

2) Kurama fears Madara, he also commands Perfect Susanoo. The point here is that it's implied Madara > Kurama. It's heavily implied, doesn't need to be shown.

3) It's more than just a fraction of a second and Madara wouldn't need to be on par with Itachi. Sasuke put killer bee under Genjutsu (Who has better synergy by far with the eight tails than Naruto does with Kurama for the record.) which aided in him dodging an attack. Sasuke got tagged after the fact because he let his guard down and Killer bee is faster. Madara is likely better at Genjutsu than Sasuke, he's faster than Naruto, and Naruto/Kurama don't have enough teamwork at this time to be better than Killer bee/Hachiibi.

4) I'm sorry but Madara is dodging Rasenshiriken, takes too much prep time, and Madara was reacting to the raikage's speed.

5) How does destroying wood clones relate to the wood dragon? The wood dragon also suppressed BM Naruto in his Kurama state by Madara's own useage.

6 & 7) Naruto's Rasengan isn't doing damage to PS. In base Madara is too fast to get tagged by Naruto. PS tanked a tailed beast bomb, plus I'm certain Madara's sword slashes would cancel them out except Madara can swing faster than Kurama can charge a TBB. The barrages are faster but still take a bit of charge.

8) The Juubi far surpasses anything Naruto or EMS Madara can dish out. I'll check that out in a bit.

9)Just because you were keeping pace with someone momentarily doesn't mean you fight on par with them. Juubito >>>>>> BM Naruto easily.

I'm using perfect logic, you just don't understand. By no admission am I saying that base EMS Madara >> Edo Madara. What I'm telling you is that Madara said he's stronger when he's alive and what he meant was his base stats meaning in terms of taijutsu i.e physical strength, speed and things of that nature. That's why he casually blitzed Naruto with no eyes. Edo Madara has stronger abilities, but is physically weaker. No, Madara absorbing Amateratsu was of his own accord. Look it up on the wiki, it's because of his own unique ability or something of that regard. You can absorb chakra without useage of the Rinnegan, the Rinnegan's useage is just the most potent. Yeah, Naruto waa caught off guard but I doubt it'd have made a difference. Alive Madara is too fast for Naruto. Anyways, this is overdrawn. Like I said before, Naruto here is literally outclassed.

EMS Madara is better than Naruto in almost every regard. The ONLY thing keeping BM Naruto in this fight is Kurama. Kurama and Naruto are also largely inexperienced working together as Madara has had tons of experience using his PS. PS alone dwarfed the five kage. I highly doubt BM Naruto in his Kurama state alone is beating the five kage.