Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-33959444-20180610211826/@comment-9782468-20180619132113

It&#039;s Not Johnny wrote: @Asian Reaper I meant no physical signs of strain. Yes, he didn't want to use the Six Paths of Pain's abilities, but that was partially due to his opponents having counters for these abilities.

As I already stated, Obito clearly actually SAW the Rasengan dissipating. Pain did NOT see the nail dissipating. He only found that out at the end of the battle because Kakashi was still alive, so he did an overview and found out Kakashi used "that" visual Jutsu in order to get rid of the nail. Pain has a Rinnegan. Obito has a Rinnegan and MS and is DIRECTLY linked to Kakashi and has had a decade and a half to train his eyes and Kamui usage. Kakashi used Kamui on a NAIL against Pain. He used Kamui on a SHADOW CLONE against Obito. There's a massive size difference, and if Obito already saw the Rasengan, there's literally no reason whatsoever he doesn't see a shadow Clone disappearing, especially if the Rasengan is literally on the hand of the Kage Bunshin. Not to mention, you can't make the argument that Obito's eyes can't process a Kamui portal as fast as Kakashi's since Obito was literally making portals that were allowing him to transport at speeds faster than KCM Naruto. So yeah.

@Thekillman That wasn't because he wasn't able to handle that Bijuu. It's because the specific chains he put on the Biju weren't able to handle it. After that, he reinforced it and was able to control the Bijuu for the rest of the fight. Just as you said, he was improving the limits of the chains throughout the fight, but he wasn't improving his own limits. He wasn't at his own limit. "These fools can't even make me sweat." "Naruto is just a pawn who I will make fight sasuke for my amusement." No, he didn't use the 6 paths because he couldn't, that's it.

Obito saw the Rasengan beginning to warp, but Obviously Kakashi warped the clone faster. That might make you say, "But the clone is bigger! It'll take longer to warp!" Well yes. So why would Kakashi purposely begin to warp a Rasengan and then "fail" before warping a Shadow Clone even faster? To make Obito believe he failed. After all, Kakashi is known for his misdirection in every one of his fights.

Pain has 2 Rinnegan, not just "a" Rinnegan. There's a big difference, considering Obito, an Uchiha with Hashirama cells, couldn't handle 2 Rinnegan.

Obito is "directly" linked to Kakashi? What does that matter? The only thing that happens due to their link is that sometimes, randomly, they see through each other's eyes, which obviously hurts them. Not only is it not a conscious act, but they've shown that it hurts whenever it happens and would therefore be detrimental to use in a fight.

Again, Kakashi just made it seem like he failed so Obito let his guard down. remember the last time someone used that strategy and took Obito down? Minato. Minato let Obito get close enough to believe he'd won and took him down directly after.

I can use the argument that Obito can't perceive Kakashi's Kamui when he uses it fast enough. Watch. Obito shot a stake at Naruto right before Kakashi used Kamui. So Naruto, being attacked, would obviously dodge if possible. However, Kakashi used Kamui on Naruto before he could escape Obito's attack. So Kakashi's Kamui is faster than BM Naruto. BM is faster than KCM.

So yeah.