Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33390047-20171108150121

I feel like this is necessary because a lot of people downplay jiraiya. The best argument in naruto's favour is that he's a perfect sage, but it's like people forget that base jiraiya is way stronger and more experienced than base naruto(circa pein). So at the very best sage naruto is on par with jiraiya's incomplete sage mode, and this is a stretch. Add that to jiraiya's vast experience and jutsu depth and the only way i see naruto winning is good ole Kurama trying to goad him to break the seal (at this time he didn't control kurama's power so it won't even be his win). Kishsimoto should have put jiraiya in that war arc. I know that might take away from the emotional factor, but I've always felt the war was a way to make clear the power scales, so in that aspect they did jiraiya dirty for not including him. 