Talk:Hiden

What was the actual name of this? Hijutsu or something like that? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes Hijutsu is correct. Also for those of you who nominated this article for deletion ive fixed it. But the Aburame clan's bugs are not kekkei genkai (read the thing at the bottom of the kekkei genkai article). As such, I have removed the Yamanaka clan from the page. Murtagh4 00:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, is not correct. The correct term is  Jutsu. --ShounenSuki 01:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yamanaka
How are their techniques not hidden jutsu? Ino said herself that Pain's mind reading technique and controlling bodies with chakra are like their clans secret techniques. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Isn't that obvious that? That Pain body that's being controlled by Nagato is from another clan that can also use mind reading techniques! Now, I'm not sure if the Yamanaka Clan isn't the only one who can disturb minds or mind reads. --Rasengan888 17:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, Ino never calls her techniques secret and neither does Inoichi. The databooks also don't classify the Yamanaka jutsu as Hiden.
 * Apparently, they simply aren't that secret. --ShounenSuki 18:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

What About the Body Switch
Ok I'll admit that the mind reading might not be a hiden jutsu but what bout the body switch or that one jutsu where Inoichi makes a Sand Ninja turn on his own teammate? Those are definitely different than mind reading.
 * No, none of the Yamanaka family's techniques shows so far are considered hiden jutsu. --ShounenSuki (talk 08:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique?
I'm not sure if it could be counted as Hiden, but the Uchiha clan mainly use this as a form of coming of age, and noone outside their clan has used it. Annaatar (talk) 15:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Some people outside the clan has used Great Fireball Technique, just look at it's page. Jacce | Talk 16:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Kakashi has, but he can use just about anything. Annaatar (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Aoba Yamashiro, Ebisu & Oki used it to. Besides, Hiden jutsus has no rank, and Great Fireball is C-rank. Jacce | Talk 16:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Hiden?
Shouldnt it been Hidden? (i could be wrong.. i dont know japenese or read naruto that intenseley but i would think the english translation is hidden..)
 * No it shouldn't. is a Japanese word meaning "secret," or "mystery". It carries the connotation of something that has been handed down in secret. We use the Japanese word for jutsu categories on this wiki, so it should be "Hiden". --ShounenSuki (talk 22:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * What about Hijutsu? Couldn't that be translated to Secret techniques or something?
 * Yes and so could, , , , , and probably a lot more words.
 * However, carries the meaning of something being handed down in secret over the generation. --ShounenSuki (talk 08:03, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * The argument that "because we use Jutsu we should say Hiden" makes no sense, even the dub says jutsu, so that's perfectly legit. It makes no sense to use a word that has no meaning to mostly English reading users of this wiki who watch the version of Naruto released to English reading countries, unlike the word jutsu. More people read this than just survivors of the filler arc... some haven't even gotten to it yet.--Kiwi Lawyer (talk) 04:51, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Super Beasts Imitation Picture
would sai's technique count since he is the only that uses itEfresh12 (talk) 00:13, December 7, 2009 (UTC)Efresh12
 * Is it a highly secret technique passed down through the generations within a specific clan or group and, most importantly has it been classified as a Hiden Technique in the databook?
 * Why on Earth would the fact that a technique has only one user be any indication of it being Hiden? Cloak of Invisibility Technique has only one user, but it is not even close to being Hiden. On the other hand, the entire Aburame clan uses the Destruction Bug Host Technique, which is a Hiden jutsu. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:42, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Clay and Sticky Gold
The databook/fanbook(s) said these series were Hiden Jutsu? --207.81.31.167 (talk) 07:00, April 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. ~SnapperTo 17:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's Definitely Hidden Jutsu
I'm making the change.

One-Piece isn't named "wanpisu" that's a mistake not even 4KIDS makes.

The Japanese language borrows many words from the English language to describe that same thing. The Japanese language doesn't have as many sounds though, so when the word is said it sounds different, when translated into English by people who can't see the obvious, it's translated incorrectly.

Hiden-("hee-din") is the incorrect pronunciation of the word "Hidden", Japanese people can't say the i sound correctly, making it sound like "EE"

The source for this "hiden" thing translated the Japanese spelling of an English word wrong, meaning, if you want to change it back, please find a reliable non fan-subbed source to confirm.

Did you honestly think it was a coincidence that the hidden techniques that clans hide from others are called exactly what the Japanese say for "hidden"?

Look at my source for a bunch of Japanese loanwords taken from all sorts of western nations and repeated wrong.

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--Kiwi Lawyer (talk) 04:20, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wan Pīsu (ワンピース) doesn't mean anything in Japanese. Hiden (秘伝) does. Poor comparison. ~SnapperTo 05:18, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * You sound like you're being deliberately close minded, did you check the link? it has at least a hundred English words turned Japanese turned back into English incorrectly. I'll list them since you are so determined to not see that the only difference between these words is that one was given one less d when made English again.


 * A Wan Pīsu is a type of dress, strangely, it is identical to a one piece dress. Do you even know what a one piece dress is? I'm sure some Japanese girls do.


 * hiden -hidden
 * aisu kurimu -ice cream
 * noto -note
 * sabisu -service
 * sarada -salad
 * tabako -tobacco (that's more obvious than hiden-hidden)
 * light -raito


 * I got these on an online translating program by randomly putting in western words.
 * chi-zu -cheese
 * pai -pie
 * kisu -kiss


 * There's even a Japanese show called "hiden camera" about pranks filmed on unsuspecting people with hidden cameras, the word is written in the English title as hiden, and it's talking about a HIDDEN CAMERA!


 * You're the hunter that shoots something that walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck and declares it is a new never before seen breed of duck-looking geese.--Kiwi Lawyer (talk) 08:28, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Japanese word has no relation to the English word hidden. They simply sound alike and have a similar meaning, something that is quite common across all languages. It is pure coincidence. --ShounenSuki (talk 09:30, July 14, 2010 (UTC)