Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180621162725/@comment-31099706-20180623184343

AsianReaper wrote: Let's be fair. Being alive obviously boosted him a tremendous amount from his Edo self. So Madara being alive vs Tobirama being an Edo put Tobirama at the disadvantage.

Well, being alive just allows him to be in his new full strength, I'm not sure if it would change anything for the sage mode, maybe the speed and reaction ability I guess.

Also, can we really argue that Hashirama was "much better" than Madara with Sage Mode? Madara literally drained all of Hashirama's Sage Mode from him, and said "only this much power? This will be very easy to handle." It's obvious that Hashi would have better mastery, but Madara was able to use its power with no problems at all.

Well, in my opinion, I think Madara was even better than Hashi with SM at that point, considering Madara's a genius with the Rinnegen and six paths chakra and hashi cells enhancements in him. It's like giving Rinnegen Sasuke the nine tails/SPSM and comparing him with Naruto. The Ashura tranmigrants have thier power as their unique ability. Cut or give that power equally to the Indra transmigrants, then they can't possibly match. So, I guess, yes, I agree with you, Madara's sage mode was better than Hashirama's. But that doesn't leave Minato to be able to be able to get pass him. Hashi was in the same time with Tobirama, yet Tobirama was never close to his power. And only one of them was regarded as powerful, Hashirama should know alot about FTG too.

Minato is not arguably somewhat better than Tobirama with FTG, he just is better. Indisputably. And his own natural speed is faster as well. Which shouldn't change anything, a couple of wood clones and wide spread wood nature attack, and Minato is left in a tight spot.

Thus, from what I see, Hashirama lives up to his title.