Board Thread:Theories & Speculation/@comment-1512913-20141028151348/@comment-1512913-20141028172950

Seelentau wrote:
 * "natures"
 * Shima
 * Izuna died at <20 years old. His Mangekyo Sharingan gave him access to Kagutsuchi and Amaterasu (Tobirama meant him in the war), but he never mastered Susanoo.
 * Madara mastered Susanoo without the two basic techniques. He's just that good.
 * 1) So what's Lightning+Wind?
 * 2) Shima???? 0_o
 * 3) Agreed
 * 4) You think so because he didn't show anything but Susanoo?