Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20150410212019/@comment-142748-20150411005026

ItachiWasAHero wrote: He ties or wins against base Hashi. IF Hashi had Sage Mode then Itachi loses or Ties. Itachi knows all about Hashirama so he knows he can't win in the Stamina department and he knows he can't win with destructive powered jutsu's since Hashi's wood release tech can be quite destructive. Hashirama has never been known for or talked about for speed, he only at best ties VotE Madara in speed, Sasuke was able to stab Madara in the arm(the same rinnegan/wood release/sage mode enhanced Madara who is better overall than his VotE self including speed) and Itachi is faster than Sasuke. So Itachi has Intelligence, Speed, Genjutsu, Sword of Totsuka and Yata's Mirror over Hashirama. Hashirama has Wood Release, More stamina/chakra, most likely more strength and most likely more seal knowledge. Very great match to watch if it ever happened. I wouldn't claim Itachi is faster than EMS Sasuke who had finally finished adjusting to his eyes. How does Itachi manage to defeat Mokuton Ryu when it can constrict and drain his Susano'o with ease? Or defeat Mokujin which can grab Itachi's Susano'o and crush it? Genjutsu doesn't come into play since Hashirama knows how to fight Uchiha and fought a superior genjutsu user over years at a time. Speed, Hashirama should be a bit faster than Itachi's usual paygrade.

Say, how does Itachi counter Mokuton: Flower World? It was able to put all five Kages under and Susano'o wouldn't be able to block the pollen due to how small it is.

I'm not seeing how Itachi can 'know' how to defeat Hashirama when Madara, who faced Hashirama several times, couldn't.