Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-6769189-20180809115232

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Um yea you're making stuff up..did so 2 times.He has nothing to do with this fight but this is the only time Obito became fast and we can literally see it. Unlike in the fight against kcm naruto where he just phases through naruto and then tries to touch the guy at the last momement, or in your  bullet-time  scenes. And yea Naruto was the top speeder there, they saw Naruto speed biltz over 6 bijju dama [i think] but yet they didn't leave a comment on Obito's speed? sure Naruto is the top speeder but couldnt escape Obito when chased by him on one occasion and on amother occasion Obito ran a few feet at him before he could put his foot down.

By your logic since the anime shows Naruto dodging the Sage Art Light fang very clearly and no one commented about speed i guess this means it isnt really the speed of light then huh?

I guess SPSM Cloak Naruto isnt as fast Guy because no one said it.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

The dragon avatar that came over night gai was more of the reason why was he was able to bend space i would say. Space didnt bend until he was moving. Databook says its the kick itself and not the dragon

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

No? as soon as that came on the whole bending space thingy was possible, he surely was fast in other modes,his speed was like shunshin-like and whats faster than teleportation? Shunshin/teleportation in Maruto is just highspeed movement, as explained in 395. Shunshin is not like FTG(which is a time-space jutsu)

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Um yea you're making stuff up..did so 2 times.He has nothing to do with this fight but this is the only time Obito became fast and we can literally see it. Unlike in the fight against kcm naruto where he just phases through naruto and then tries to touch the guy at the last momement, or in your  bullet-time  scenes. And yea Naruto was the top speeder there, they saw Naruto speed biltz over 6 bijju dama [i think] but yet they didn't leave a comment on Obito's speed? sure Naruto is the top speeder but couldnt escape Obito when chased and Obito ran a few feet at him before he could put his foot down.

By your logic since the anime shows Naruto dodging the Sage Art Light fang very clearly and no one commented about speed i guess this means it isnt really the speed of light then huh?

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

The dragon avatar that came over night gai was more of the reason why was he was able to bend space i would say. Space didnt bend until he was moving. Databook says its the kick itself and not the dragon

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

No? as soon as that came on the whole bending space thingy was possible, he surely was fast in other modes,his speed was like shunshin-like and whats faster than teleportation? Shunshin/teleportation in Maruto is just highspeed movement, as explained in 395. Shunshin is not like FTG(which is a time-space jutsu)

When Gai was charging at Madara, his speed got commented on by Madara himself Madara never commented on Naruto dodging Light Fang. I guess neither of those are as fast as previously established.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

When Gai was charging at Madara, his speed got commented on by Madara himself Madara never commented on Naruto dodging Light Fang. I guess neither of those are as fast as previously established.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

The animators just adds in a dew scenes to increase frame-time, but i don't think do would exaggerate it, i mean Itachi's susanoo was shown in the manga to be capable of slicing the heads of the snakes easily, as seen when he sliced 7 heads in one swing....in the anime all 7 heads didn't go at once, 2 went first then the susanoo got wrapped around and then they got chopped off. [screen time being increased]..you said the anime makes techniques slower than it actually is,then how will we know the actual speed of it to decide that the anime makes them slower? context clues? not really good enough, i mean look at context clues being misused in this debate, Obito is suddenly as fast a KCM Naruto, who is faster than Ay, and one can hardly see Ay with the sharingan. By reading the manga and scaling, but thanks for admitting that the anime doesnt depict events the same way the source material does

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

All i can say is that, that's the reason why i turn to the anime to see how fast the characters really are, when in the manga all the proof we have is on-lookers praising their speed, a few lines and scratches and now the argument whether bullet-time is included makes deciding the actual speed of a person even difficult. The animators include stuffs to increase frametime as i said before, but i still trust them who knows maybe they got a characters stats book thingy from the author himself just so they don't mess up and then there's experiences and stuff..i know they just won't ;_; Lol databook stats aint shit. They say Taka MS Sasuke was stronger than all of the Akatsuki. The manga showed us very much otherwise. Also, as you have admitted, the anime makes tweaks and alterations to the events depicted, so the manga over rules the anime.

Thank god someone commented on Juubitos speed or else we would have never known that he was faster than Tobirama