Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-33485854-20180625233306/@comment-734582-20180627072556

LoneNinja wrote: There's no evidence to really support that. I don't recall it ever being shown that Momoshiki converted actual Shinju fruit that grew from the tree, that he ate in the past; into pills. If that is true, please provide a reference so I may see for myself. In the Boruto movie, they literally state they're harvesting fruits and converting them to pills.

LegionZero wrote: They were never stated to have lost the 6 Paths powers. Obito still had 6 Paths eveb after his death. The 6 Paths upgrade is permenant. They didn't lose them because they didn't get their powers from Hagoromo's chakra. They got that power on their own. Sasuke got SP chakra because he meets the conditions for Rinnegan. Naruto has it because he has the chakra of the juubi. Both have their specific powersets because of Hagoromo (IE Sasuke's rinnegan appeared instantly because Hagoromo made it so, while Naruto has SPSM).

Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: hago gave them more like an awakening drug by giving them his chakra. same for toneri and a hyuuga's byaku, or hinata and hamura's chakra. Hagoromo did the same thing to Naruto and Sasuke as he did with the Juubi. He proved before that he can take a being's powers and alter and redistribute them. E.g. the Juubi can make TSB's but none of the Nine can do that. The Juubi has Rinne Sharingan but none of it's component biju do. Sasuke proved (and Kurama confirmed) that this works the other way around too. Hagoromo possesses the power to take component parts and restore them to a whole. In Naruto, the nine separate biju were used to bring out SPS (a power not possessed by any biju separately). In Sasuke, Indra and Ashura chakra was instantly joined to form a Rinnegan.

LegionZero wrote: IF you dont want to believe that he actively gave them 6 Paths, Obito retained 6 Paths after losing the Juubi AND the Rinnegan. Seems like once a 6 Paths, always a 6 Paths Once you awaken your own Six Paths powers, you seem to retain them, yes. But Kakashi got six paths chakra from Obito and i don't see Kakashi retain that. Time and again we get proof that giving chakra isn't permanent. Naruto and Sasuke got their respective powers because they met the requirements for those powers. Hagoromo merely arranged it in such a way that both got to use it properly and completely within a short timeframe.

LegionZero wrote: It still vague as to whether he used Hashi cells. He said he used his research on Hashi cells. Normally that's vague, yes. But Kabuto uses the same phrasing with his other powers. IE he says he used research on Karin to heal, research on the Sound 4 to obtain their powers, etc. It simply means that he used all his available knowledge to manipulate Hashicells in a safe way to heal Sasuke.

LoneNinja wrote: What I think? Six Paths is likely to be connected to Kaguya and is the true form of the Shinju's (Tree) Chakra. Hagoromo initially only had Sixth Path Yang and Hamura had Yin. Becoming the Jinchuriki allowed him to wield both and thus achieve what we call Six Paths Chakra. I agree on the former, not so much on the latter. The whole Yin/Yang thing is very confusing and doesn't have much info on it, so it remains vague. However, we know that few people have their powers trace to the Shinju (e.g. Kaguya, Hagoromo, hamura) all people with strong chakras and the ability to easily use power. People who got weaker versions of the fruit's power (e.g. those who got chakra from Hagoromo) kneaded their inner chakra and so made ninjutsu. Six paths chakra is thus some form of "true" chakra, and every-day chakra is some sort of pale imitation.