Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-31099706-20180904124822

If you observe the Itachi vs Sasuke and Naruto vs Sasuke battles, then you will notice that Sasuke doesn't merely shoot off fireballs into the air, he shoots them straight towards his opponent making them dodge it, thinking it was just that.

And who said it has to appear quick? It'll take longer without Amaterasu, but it will come, and not to mention, depending on the weather, and the other jutsus used, Kakashi's Purple lighting was able to bring out thunder storms.

Sigh, the dog isn't alive. That would be a feat compared to the sage of the Six Paths. The lightning dog is merely an imitation of a dog, just like the dragon used in Kirin, guess that's complex enough or may I add the fact that Kirin is made out of natural lightning, which was praised by Zetsu, guess that would end this debate about Lightning Control.

Yep, Itachi wasn't trying to kill him. I guess that makes the Amaterasu he shot at Sasuke just something ticklish, lmao.

During his MS period, he used Amaterasu against the Samurai's, A, Gaara, and Danzo. You're missing the point here now, Itachi(who was known to not being impressive in Chakra reserves) was able to spam a whole forest, and continue on to use Susanoo, Sasuke's Chakra is far more than that lol.

I see only Raikage and Ohnoki being tough to Hebi Sasuke, while let's not go with MS Sasuke, genjutsu, Susanoo, Blaze Release will kill even these guys.

While the rest, yes, give Gaara the advantage by making the field made out of sand. Do you have a feat of him using the wide amount of sand without Shukaku during Hebi and MS Sasuke's current time? He obviously won't be as good as he was with Shukaku. But using summons like Manda, and again Genjutsu(Gaara literily stares at his eyes) and Chidori stab will defeat him.

PIS Danzo? Lol, give a feat of Danzo doing something intellegent during a battle, it's pretty easy to use cheap tricks like 'PIS' and stuff to desperately win a debate. And yes, Koto Danzo defeats Hebi Sasuke, but then again, who can't Danzo beat with Koto? He literaly beats anyone with Koto, that's a fact lol.

Mizukage, needed to seal both rooms down to concentrate her steam, and she only accomplished even doing that because of the strain in the cells and Eyes MS had, and the battle he was in prior. In a open field, Mizukage doesn't have much to defend for, her KG jutsus are nothing more than regular Nature Jutsus, she'll be the one of the easiest for Hebi Sasuke.

And Tsunade, she's strong, no arguing over that. But what else? Sakura had the same strength, and as Kakashi stated, she can't do anything with all that strength without being able to hit her target and Hebi Sasuke is just unreachebly fast for her. And when she goes for close combat, she'll be either burned or sliced by a Chidori spear or get's one shotted by Genjutsu.

"MS sasuke was a tier below kage level, so how on earth is hebi sasuke kage level???" Guess you're right, since you stated so. Dude for real, you do know what we are debating here, right? Whether Hebi Sasuke is Kage level or not, and you merely stating he isn't as if it was said by the writer, isn't cool.

Interestinly, Diedera got matched up by Kakashi prior to fighting Sasuke, Kakashi who had a Sharingan, Chidori/Lightning Release and a wider and longer experience than Hebi Sasuke didn't find a single thing. Of course Sasuke got an advantage with Lightning Release, and Diedera had an advantage with his Explosion Release, not every battle is fair, and it wasn't common knowledge or something Diedera mentioned over that his jutsu is weak to Lightning, it was exposed by Sasuke performing Experiments mid battle, nothing more, nothing less.

You're talking about the great snake escape? Can you be more clear about how that's not clear for you?

I never used abc logic here, it was merely certain people that used character A for character B. People seem to assume that anyone who can any of the Kages is considered a 'kage', which is absurd considering Tsunade, Mizukage, Gaara can't kill Ohnoki. Raikage, Muu and Gaara can't kill Tsunade, and the list goes on. People, Kage level is just a mere level estimated by strength skill and jutsu, it's not exactly measured by who can kill who. Having the ability to summon Manda, CM mastery, Swordmanship, Kirin, Chidori varients, Sharingan mastery and other various skills and an intellegence and battle attitude of a genius makes Hebi Sasuke Kage Level. Now can we continue with the actual debate?