Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-30881771-20170713230149/@comment-5085906-20170717193419

Rachin123 wrote: So your basically saying that up until Amaterasu, Killer B got overwhelmed. I can give you that, but it was all Sasuke, not Team Taka. Also, every jinchuriki is different when it comes to their tailed beast. So just because other jinchuriki haven't done the same thing as one, that makes it plot. Hello not every jinchuriki is the same when it comes their tailed beasts, not to mention most were hardly seen a fight and they as far as we know, had no reason to make a substitution the Killer B did. I agree that Karin should have sensed the fake Killer B though, but that's all I can give you.

Also, Killer B was giving it to Kisame who was just barely keeping up. Killer B could not even go Tailed Beast Mode, because had he done it, Kisame would be dead. So yes due the inconvenience of the location and Sabu and Ponta, Killer B was basically defeated, not overwhelmed. I think you need to choose your words more wisely as using the "overwhelmed" makes it seem like the person got their ass handed to their opponent. Yeah, English's not my first language so I may use words incorrectly sometimes. And I guess I didn't account for the fact that Gyuki's tail can regenerate and that gives Bee the luxury of performing that substitution trick that other jinchuuriki cannot do. It's just that at this point in the anime, substitutions were mainly used for momentary distractions and it feels cheap that Sasuke or any of the Team Taka couldn't detect it.

Also, I think we can give credit to Suigetsu, Juugo and Karin in that fight since they were a big help. I think Bee would have made short work of Sasuke if they weren't around.

Also watch the fight against Kisame. Bee did not even scratch him up until his version 2 transformation, and even then Kisame regenerated pretty easily. Even Bee's last ditch effort with the pencil couldn't harm Kisame, who at this point wasn't even Kisame but a Zetsu clone.

Thekillman wrote: For all intents and purpose, it was bee. Same chakra. Besides, the clone was unconscious so it's not like it had a mood to sense. Again, unlikely. A few chapters later, Karin would be tasked of finding Danzo in a room full of bitter bureaucrats and she would do it almost immediately. She could also tell when Danzo alternated between activating and deactivating Izanagi so it's not just a mood thing. And furthermore, she can also tell the species and chakra reserves of a person - with all those extraordinary feats, there was no conceivable way she should have missed that little tidbit, but I guess plot.