Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-38812954-20190922182317/@comment-33286580-20190923211503

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yes it is time travel kinds of fan fiction, but even fan fiction is written with some basis in fact, unless the writers literally make the characters completely different.

Yes. this isnt EMS Madara. agreed. means pre-Izuna eyes.

and just because of that DOES NOT MAKE MADARA WEAK.

even before acquiring EMS he was fighting Hashirama on equal grounds. granted he would be toasted against Sage Mode Hashirama, but even without it Hashi is god level character.

Like seriously, the Edo of Hashi and Tobi far outclassed the shinobi of the present era. and they werent even at full power. Madara MS was stronger than TObi and proabably weaker than Hashi. So even then Madara is a god level character.

ANd the Kyubi Genjutsu... dont forget that Sharingan has the power to control Kyubi. you dont need EMS for it. you need to have exceptionally powerful Sharingan or MS and Madara being Indra reincarantion should have it.

Yes. Madara may not know what Kamui is and Obito may know a few tricks of Madara, but that does not give Obito advantage. and Hashi-less Obito is not spamming Kamui.

and no, most of Obito's knowledge of Uchiha kinjutsu and other things came from Madara. given the scenario he should not meet Madara. so he probably does not know of Izanagi. and what would Izanagi would even do. give him one or two chance at like at the cost of his eyes. and this Obito will not have extra sharingan to spare unless he goes batshit crazy like Danzo and hordes those eyes.

you guys are seriously underestimating Madara and overestimtion and Obito without Hashicells or SP chakra.

Like i posted in my previous post, that in no wya can Obito get to the level of a Kage, let alone go beyond and reach Madara's level, so unless someone can explain it i stand by my opinion.