Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180528093116/@comment-34656247-20180531174212

'-' Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Again i was referring to his age range.. I also said Hokage Minato, that doesnt mean Minato would be stamping papers and giving orders.

Nashikeine wrote: Just... i have no words here. You set the level and you yourself jump around the power levels of characters. i have nothing more to say. Sasuke can only use skeletal Susanoo and that is all that matters to this vs. Omg ,-, sorry if i did something wrong, but sasuke's used susanoo, why would'nt he know about stage 2? i said the sasuke that attacked the kage summit i did'nt edit that btw, so the sasuke that attacked the summit is the same one that fought danzo. If you still disagree then Minato will be stamping papers here.

Nashikeine wrote: the spirit weapon can be sealed inside the body like how biju are sealed or how Orochimaru actually has his Kusanagi stored inside his body. it was clearly stated that Itachi found the sword and mirror. his Susanoo isnt special. it didnt come equiped with them. Yea that's true, but one, the beast were in physical form. All we know is the blades were spiritual. As for the orochimaru searching for it part he got that intel thanks to legend maybe a user before itachi once possessed them in his susanoo, just like Indra's amaterasu. And again what sealing jutsu does itachi know? And that wasn't made clear in manga, orochimaru just said itachi you had it all along meaning he was searching for something he could've never find because it was someone's else, and they had it from the get go.

Nashikeine wrote: how can anyone use them without Susanoo if you are wondering... just remember that Naruto uses Rasegan which is pure chakra and holds it in his palm, Sasuke can use CHidori to shape into a sword and use it as a real sword even when it is lightning which cannot be held. these are superhumans that defy logic. Bad example, kinda...you're basically saying itachi can use totsuka blade without even activating susanoo...so sasuke can weild his susanoo arrows with activating such, they can throw yasaka beads with susanoo..cool ;_; ..even naruto has a limit when it comes to logic.

Nashikeine wrote: it was Totsuka Blades abilities that sealed Orochimaru. Itachi just wielded, nothing more nothing less.

What i said is itachi must be there to use it,,sheesh...imagine a dead itachi, can totsuka seal orochimaru by itself? hell no. simple as that ;_;.

Nashikeine wrote: He is a part of Team Minato. so he is part of thinking up the plan up ahead. jeez Nothing the uchihas cant do...

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Could've just said you're wrong, i provided more facts ;_o

Nashikeine wrote: you did not prove me wrong. you did not even provide facts. you provided the scene, which by the way shows that Izuna could not react to FTG. but despite of seeing the obvious you decide to come up with a theory that Izuna is weak shinobi. even when it was stated that he and Madara were top dogs in the Uchiha clan in the era. the discussion was about Sharingan wielders not being able to counter FTG. if one of the top dogs from the war era couldnot stand upto FTG then there is no way anyone is going especially an improved and better one with Minato. so basically what's stated is true? then i guess itachi is really invincible, according to zetsu. You didn't provide anything dude..you just assumed he was because they said he was comparable to Mangekyou Madara, who at that time was exchanging swords with hashirama...... He failed to cast the genjutsu in time, lack of finess...he failed to react to FTG altough he saw it coming....lack of reaction time. And the uchiha's knowing about it makes it easier for them.......simple.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: '-'7 (post edited btw)

Nashikeine wrote: the main thread isnt. they still are written to have no Knowledge on Jiriaya. I did'nt edit that part,it's about the uchiha's. Man i can't believe you, he changes stance and idles there for a while, who would'nt suspect that jiraiya is up to something?! These are all intelligent dudes....it's like you want the other team to win, besides this is probably the most obvious and simple-est deduction an uchiha can make. As i said up above, sasuke prevented itachi from completing his signs, so why would'nt he do so here? ;_;

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Alive madara vs TWO particle style users? they didnt try, because of plot, madara was important to the story, how would killing him help? ;_;

Nashikeine wrote: they were scared of him. and if you want to chalk it to plot than so be it. the fact is that Madara didnt take them seriously as he thought them beneath him and that is all that matters. They were scared of the plot ghost that were surrounding madara. Madara didn't take them seriously but went straight to susanoo? ;_;

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Mind stating atleast two speed feats of hiruzen... Amaterasu require's sign? besides flame control is a big deal here. To know if he's using amaterasu they have to look at the eyes to recognise the bleeding which is something they wont do '-'

Nashikeine wrote: Hiruzen arrived alongside the other Kage way before Sasuke on the battlefield in the war. or when Naruto was caught by the SHinju's branches and was having his chakra sucked the likes of Tobirama couldnt reach him yet Hiruzen did. He arrived with tobirama, so does that mean Hiruzen's speed is on par with tobirama? interesting ;_; Team hokage except for minato all arrived together, Team sasuke all arrived together, not like it was a race either o.O He arrived there that doesnt mean he's fast, maybe he was just nearby? ;_; again you suggested he's faster than tobirama lol ._.

Nashikeine wrote: i also specifically said his counter skills with his jutsu. the signs i mention arent hand signs but the bleeding eye. indeed they can look into the eyes of their opponent. forgot what CHiyo said. all you need is a teammate to get you out of the Sharingan Genjutsu. and since they dont know of Tsukuyomi they really have no reason to fear the Uchiha Souka ;_; The bleeding eye which they won't notice since they wont stare in the sharingan. Chiyo said so because it was four vs one...this is 4 vs 4.. that won't work..Besides if they did look genjutsu rips them...more dangerously if they looked in itachi's eyes, that'll be one down thanks to tsukuyomi.