Talk:Ameyuri Ringo

Gender
Ameyuri is female or male? I personally think she is a woman --Leodix/My Talk/Contributions''' 05:26, January 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the character should remain genderless, either until gender is specified, or if someone is familiar with Japanese names and culture, they could figure out if it's male or female. Yes, I think she's a women also, but then that would be adding speculation to her/his page. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 05:36, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree this is the same situation Kurotsuchi was in.Deva 27 (talk) 05:42, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Since Shounensuki says that yuri is a common female name ending, should Ameyuri be considered female?


 * I don't see why not. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 01:00, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * While it's common there are males with their names ending in 'yuri' While i believe that this person is probably male given Kirigakure's whole background, leaving the character genderless couldn't hurt i suppose.--Cerez365 (talk) 01:01, January 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Question: Is there any reason, other than "yuri" in the name, that suggest that this character is female?--TheUltimate3 ~Aspect of Wiki ~ 01:11, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ameyuri does have a somewhat feminine appearance. I don't think I've ever seen a name ending in 由利 being used for a man. That and Ameyuri's androgynous appearance is enough to at least bring their gender in doubt. —ShounenSuki (talk 01:17, January 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Should there not be a pic here showing Ameyuri wielding his/her blades?--Zicoihno (talk) 05:28, January 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Like with everything else, let's leave it until the manga tells us. While Ameyuri Ringo does have female looks, there's also the fact that the Swordsmen are infact that; Men. So I think we should leave the gender blank until we find out for sure. Could just be like Haku. Look female but was well, a male. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 08:27, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * In most languages, even one male member means a group is referred to by its male form. So, don't take swordsmen to mean it consists of only men. ~SnapperTo 08:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well duuuh, I knew this. I'm referring to the facts we know. The ressurected are all male with the exception of Ameyuri Ringo, as this is what we're debating, obviously. The next generation were also male. Going back to my previous statement Snapper, let's just leave it until the manga tells us, like we usually do. I wasn't claiming to be a know it all, as my previous statement clearly shows. SusanooUnleashed (talk) 10:54, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * @Snapper2: I would like to point out that the Japanese name has no gender-related wordings. it's completely gender-neutral. —ShounenSuki (talk 09:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * All the more reason not to take "swordsmen" as significant. ~SnapperTo 17:30, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm putting Ameyuri as a man. Reason:The other members are male, the appearence may be like Haku, the name is "The 7 Swordsmen", and a woman's name is sometimes used for a man like Lesly. --Jonathan (talk) 20:54, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

—ShounenSuki (talk 21:01, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Lesly is actually a masculine name. Lesley is feminine and Leslie is unisex. Names with the -yuri ending are almost exclusively used for women.
 * 2) The fact that most members of a group are male does in no way lessen the possibility of one member being female. Akatsuki had only one female member but it has had almost a dozen male members over time.
 * 3) Male group names like 'swordsmen' can refer to groups with women in them. Not that it matters, as the original Japanese name is completely gender-neutral.

Name
I am not informed about names and surnames in japanese, so could someone explain me is his name Ringo or Ameyuri? Here it is Ringo Ameyuri, and I know that in English it is more frequent to use first name and then surname, and since this is an english translation is his name Ringo?--Ttogafer (talk) 11:52, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ameyuri is the given name, Ringo is the family name. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:09, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ringo is his/her first name, and Ameyuri is his/her last name. Quite obvious seeing as how Ameyuri is placed before Ringo. Ringo is a common first name, and I doubt that there is a clan out there named after an apple rather than rain. Another note, Ringo is known to be specific to mostly females which heightens the possibility of Ameyuri Ringo being a woman.
 * How do I put this so that I won't hurt your feelings... You're wrong. In Japanese, Ameyuri's name is written as . Since in Japanese, the family name comes before the given name, Ringo is the family name here and Ameyuri the given name. —ShounenSuki (talk 14:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC)