Board Thread:Episode Discussions/@comment-1251315-20160721110532/@comment-24824859-20160724213934

Starscream1998 wrote: Yes it is out of character as Hagaromo is a pacifist so pretty sure he's not intervening directly anytime soon. I seem to remember him having more conversations with Indra or did you miss the part where Indra invented jutsu? Actually yes he did; once during the naming of his successor but Indra walked off and again when Indra went Susanoo on everyone. How is Hagoromo a pacifist if he watches his pupils spar with each other on the daily basis? Hagoromo has no qualms with fighting when it is absolutely necessary. Heck, he wouldn't have needed to fight Indra if he have serious talks with him at the time he was on the wrong path. Indra was perfectly sane when he invented jutsu and it was he who stated the risks of jutsus. It wasn't after he named his successor, that Hagoromo listened to Indra's story Starscream1998 wrote: You make it sound like Hagaromo had a thousand conversations with Ashura. He had barely any on screen talk with any of his sons really when it comes down to it. Plus Indra was on that lone wolf shtick and Hagaromo kinda had a place to help run so you know now you're asking for Indra to break character. It's clear to even a blind man that there was tension building up between the two for 2-3 episodes and not all disputes are settled with a little chat especially when Indra is so bloody stubborn he makes Madara look timid. It's not about fault it was about fixing the problem which Indra did in the short term but failed hard long term. You have a very poor understanding of the show if you think it was solely Naruto to thank for the peace and not the countless life changing people he met and fought. He still had more meaningful conversations with Asura than he did with Indra. It wasn't until Indra slipped, he was stubborn as you mode him out to be. Hagoromo saw how Indra was becoming like Kaguya, yet he didn't make an effort to talk to him and explain what he was doing is wrong. You're making excuses here. I never said that Hagoromo could prevent Indra from going to the dark side with little chats, clearly it would take a lot of effort, but it would be worth it. Explain to me how someone building a well would result in villagers killing themselves over it? Naruto was the one who helped the world find peace and without him the world wouldn't have found it. Are you to say that all the people he met helped the world find peace? Starscream1998 wrote: It's also rich how you accuse me for not paying enough attention when you clearly didn't watch the episode where Hagaromo states he watched over the shinobi world after his death so sorry bud but that's just hilarious to read. Yet, in canon, Hagoromo still had no idea about Black Zetsu and its machinations until it revived Kaguya. Starscream1998 wrote: Starscream1998 wrote: I respect your Manga purity...but you need to realise that's an incredibly narrow minded thing to be doing. Dude, are you trying to make Naruto's plot suck because you clearly haven't heard of the word 'plot' because Hagaromo believe it or not is flawed. So yes I agree his parenting skills weren't the best (he didn't really have a good example did he now) but these accusations are way too unfocused even for a half ass filler. What manga purity? SP's portrayal of Hagoromo sucked complete ass and I merely stated major flaws in the filler's plot. I have no idea why you are defending this sub-par fillerised character
 * There was no focus on one particular son
 * You can polish a turd as much as you want it's still a turd and Indra's method was the same method as Kaguya's, Madara's and every other villain who thinks they can solve everything with power and no bonds.
 * ....suuuuure I also suppose that means if Kakashi had flapped his lips long enough Sasuke wouldn't of left the village. The moment Indra started buying into what Zetsu was selling reasoning with him was not on the table.
 * Yeah, there was
 * Riiiight, so building a well for people, by yourself, is the same as instilling fear, killing people, and subjugating people to what you believe is peace
 * That's literally what Kakashi said. And how would you know that exactly? He was still reasonable until he slipped