Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-142748-20160312055429

...all I see is you ignoring and downplaying feats of Naruto and Sasuke QuakingStar, claiming they lost Hagoromo's chakra (never happened and never said) and claimed they gotten weaker (again, where is the PROOF. Cite page and evidence). You ignore everything that was said that Naruto and Sasuke got stronger than ALL the Hokage, including Hashirama.

Wait, are you actually claiming Hashirama can beat Juubi Jin Obito despite the manga flat out saying Juubi Jin Obito was stronger from him. It doesn't matter it was from a clone, it was flat out said that Juubi Jin Obito is stronger than Hashirama. There's no other way to get around it.

How are they not? What is your proof? Prove it with evidence since it doesn't make sense.