User talk:WindStar7125



Welcome to my talk page. -- WindStar7125   00:42, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Preview, cont'd
Whatever your reasons may be, the fact remains that you edit your comments within a couple of minutes of making them noticeably often. To be clear: there's nothing wrong with this. I'm simply suggesting that you spare yourself the need to amend your comments so soon after making them, whether by reading what you've written more carefully or letting it sit briefly before posting in case you change your mind about something. ~SnapperTo 03:44, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Forums
For the most part, I want to clamp down on the flame wars that occur. There's other discussions that happen, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. In regards to what I said to Munchvtec, it would be nothing more than an information post, but I want to avoid posting it until I've heard back from TTF on a matter I discussed with him in private.

On another note: Congrats for becoming rollback and chat mod. I think you are the first and only chat moderator on the wiki. So good work. If you need any help with either (rollback in forums for example), feel free to pester me on the chat. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 09:23, September 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * The red marker only denotes forum moderators, translators and sysops at this time and it's currently done manually. If you wish to have a forum moderator tag added to your posts, feel free to contact a sysop to add you to the list. --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:04, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: continued convo
Hey congrats on becoming a chat moderator. When i first joined the wikia back in 2008, everyone here was chill and almost noone would argue like we do now. I think you kinda get the drift of what im saying right. Munchvtec (talk) 12:46, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

I haven't been on in a while cause their was a shooting at my school. Munchvtec (talk) 13:09, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

To put it short we where just all able to get along with each other. Munchvtec (talk) 17:14, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chat
Yes. You are within your rights to kick them at that point. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 20:06, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Two is a better rule of thumb. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 20:09, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * In my personal opinion, it's better to go like this: Verbal Warning in chat (in PM's if chat is busy) -> Kick if repeated -> Chat ban for 3 days
 * In regards to bans, it's probably good to follow this: 3 days -> 1 week -> 1 month -> 6 months -> indefinite --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:11, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I wish I could give you a super special answer, but I'm not that articulate. I trust you, you show a level head handling yourself on the forums and talk page, are willing to hear both sides of an argument, and you make good edits on the wiki. There are a number of good editors on this wiki, but I've worked more closely with you so I feel you know your stuff. That was my reasoning. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 23:47, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Windy it is. Though, if I'm completely honest with you, my editor friends on most wikis just call me Ten. You're welcome to call me Foxie, but Ten is the shorthand I'm most used to ^^ ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 00:48, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Tomoe Rinnegan
I apologize, I feel quite injudicious and intrepid today. But it is not "fanon," hear me out.KiritoLevel96Alicization (talk) 21:49, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

re: Ok then...

 * Considering Amaterasu is a goddess of the sun and the sun is mostly made of plasma, I suppose the black flames of Blaze Release are plasma. Lightning can ionize the Fire, making it so.
 * All advanced natures so far are a mix of the basic ones. If it were possible to make a nature by a mix of the basic ones with either Yin or Yang, we would have at hand too many possible combinations.
 * Madara used Sage Art: Yin Release Lightning Dispatch and it was both natures separately rather than a new advanced nature, so I don't see why Fire + Yin should be Blaze, since Lightning + Yin is still just Lightning and Yin. Before you say that he simply used them separately, then why? Considering that as a TT jinch he could mix them, shown through his usage of Storm Release.
 * Common guess for Fire+Lightning is Explosion, but Fire nor Lightning are explosive, so I disagree with that.
 * If Gaara's sand manipulation is Magnet Release, Blaze Release as plasma would explain it being ineffective against the sand.--Elve Talk Page 10:19, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

._. I guess we will eventually find out who is right. Personally, I hope Blaze isn't Fire+Yin, because the manga's end is at hand we know of only 8 dual advanced natures' composition. If Blaze were to be Fire+Lightning, that would leave only 1 more advanced nature to go, that's why I hope it is.--Elve Talk Page 16:12, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Six Paths Question
Sorry, I'm currently not that interested in the manga. Sasuke used the Six Paths Power if I remember correctly. As for the other questions: I have no idea. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:13, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

six paths round 2 talk
star, brutha can U please check the last part of that discussion & tell me Ur opinion...no one seems to give a fuck...thanx --DARK ZER06 (talk) 07:56, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

suddenly I got this question that is best asked here of U don't mind :]...:
 * if indra [reincarnation] gains mangekyo & asura's [reincarnation] chakra, he get rinnegan...what happens when asura [reincarnation] gains indra's [reincarnation] chakra...& also does he need sth else for this like how indra need mankegyo or in general sharingan...IDK sth like...senjutsu...or just senju body...or senju yang...since it's like a KG for them... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:05, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

I get that part...but I wanna know what happens when an asura reincarnation gains indra's chakra or dna...what does he gain...& if he's gonna gain sth like how indra gains rinnegan, does asura's reincarnation need sth else beside indra's chakra...or is it that his body is enough for the process since senju body is like a KG the same way sharingan is a KG for uchiha... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:38, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

"When an Asura reincarnation gains Indra's chakra from an Uchiha's DNA, over time, Hagoromo's chakra will come and bring forth the Rinnegan. (However, Naruto is the only person with Hagoromo's chakra without the Rinnegan, so shrugs :/)"
 * that's my point...I think only indra gains rinnegan...asura gets sth else if he goes through the same process...

"The Sharingan is a Kekkai Genkai of the Uchiha. I don't recall the body of a Senju being a KG. Their bodies are special, but I wouldn't compare it to kekkai genkai. Wood Release is a KG of the Senju (specifically Hashirama), not their bodies."
 * that's why I said senju body is LIKE a KG...since asura inherited hagoromo's body & yang chakra it's like a KG for the senju clan...the same way indra inherited hagoromo's eyes & yin chakra... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 22:05, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

"I guess that "something else" Asura gains is the Six Paths Sage Technique. "
 * I thought U'd say that...but that is false...because this power is mainly & mostly gained from tailed beast's chakras...& maybe other things like senjutsu...damn kishi...he has totally fucked up the senju clan...why didn't he give them a KG or sth X[...

"I'm well aware that you said it was like a KG. Their bodies special, yes, like I said. similar to the bloodline limit (KG in literal English)."
 * yeah...U know...I think that maybe six paths sage tech is that SOMETHING else...& maybe the that is required aside from senju body is either senjutsu chakra or tailed beast chakra...like how indra needs mangekyo...but this is way unbalanced :[

also...why is sasuke's rinnegan different than other rinnegans? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 13:20, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

happy to hear Ur opinion homie :]
 * I'm completely of the opinion that only tomoed rinnegan can cast&dispel IT too...but I think sasuke's rinnegan is sth in-between hagoromo's & kaguya's...I think it's a watered down version of the kaguya's...cuz kaguya's has 9 tomoe & is red but sasuke's got 6 & is purple...& if U compare the 2 in terms of the teleportation & space-time ninjutsu sasuke's is very similar to kaguya's...only much much weaker...but still superior to hagoromo's...I think if sasuke gains tailed beasts chakras his rinnegan might become the red 9-tomoed one...now putting this aside I'm gonna rephrase my question...how the fuck did sasuke EXACTLY acquire this special rinnegan...what is the thing that makes sasuke's rinnegan single purpled 6-tomoed but madara's & hagoromo's dual tomoe less...how did he awaken it...was it the sage that simply gave him exactly like that...or was it that kabuto gave him hashirama's chakra & indra's & asura's chakra got mixed in him & when the sage gave him his six paths yin chakra (or in general six paths chakra), it transformed sasuke's dual tomoe-less rinnegan into a single 6-tomoed rinnegan...
 * also for that naruto dispelling IT alone issue, he could simply kill sasuke & take his rinnegan & dispel the shit himself :D
 * & 1 more point I'd like to make is that I think hagoromo's chakra =/= six paths chakra...I think they are related but not the same...donno exactly Y but just got this feeling that these 2 might not be 1 thing...maybe I'm wrong, IDK... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 20:41, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

uuuuuuuhh...U alive star... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:36, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

too much work...or did I start boring U :]... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 15:13, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

for now...nuthin...thought maybe U had sth on Ur mind... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 15:51, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Chat continued
hey sorry for the late reply. but I can't really answer your question just because there's not really a certain time when the wikia started turning for the worse. Munchvtec (talk) 11:40, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

if i had to say when it started then id say around 2 years ago it got bad. Munchvtec (talk) 11:58, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Are you...
What other actions would you prefer? Me to go over the discussion say "No stahp" and block people who disagree with me? They made their choice, however stupid it may be. Now it is no longer my problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:50, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re: May I...
You'd have to ask UltimateSupreme. I don't even know if I can touch that without messing the coding up. He'd know better than I. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 03:23, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke classified as Dictator
It's not stated in the manga, and it doesnt' matter if its implied neither. "He intends to rule openly, laying down judgements and executions somewhat like a dictator would.", IS an implied statement itself! and it doesn't have anything to do with Sasuke's reasoning in the current chapter. If he would be act like dictator, then what's the point of trying to to bear hatred from everyone if he rules. There's no evidence of him ruling with any title whatsoever. In any case, its more likely he intends on resetting everything and unite the world against him. He's more akin to a terrorist than a dictator. superlogan7437 (talk) 05:43, October 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Then just ban my account and leave me alone. superlogan7437 (talk) 06:30, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Japanese
the way things are said in Japanese when someone says something like this"besides the byakugan, my mother had the sharingan" what they are saying is My mother had the byakugan and sharingan. the Japanese are very literal in Japanese culture if they were to say that car has the power of a Hemi they are saying that car is a Hemi so when hagoromo said Besides the byakugan my mother had the power of the sharingan he is literally saying my mother had the byakugan(two eyes) and the sharingan(third eye) never once has it been referred to as a Rinnegan by anyone in the entire manga --Actionmanrandell (talk) 10:55, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Why?
Why did you revert my edit? I justified my reason for it which you ignored. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 00:32, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually i did put something similar on Kakashi talkpage last month and im still waiting. I didn't remove it because it was anime only content, i removed it because it isn't valid content for that arc. According to your logic, this content could go anywhere on Kakashi page as long as it starts of with "In the anime. I had the same issue with SuperSajuuk but he saw my point. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 01:08, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Appreciate it. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 02:29, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Windstar for bringing the issue up with the others. I understand i went about the whole process the wrong way but i felt like i was getting ignored. It won't happen again. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 03:15, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

re: This needs attention
With all due respect Windstar, put your judgment to better use the next time around. There was no need to spam the same thing on user talkpages of 4 people, like if an inevitable apocalypse were coming. I'm sure you could handle it all by yourself and also, I check the talkpages regularly, so I would have noticed the topic even without your notice.--Elve Talk Page 11:45, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

I think noticing Ulti would have been enough tho, no hard feelings ^_--Elve Talk Page 12:03, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke Rinnegan Image
I noticed you and Kirin uploaded images of sasuke's rinnegan and i uploaded a similar image after yours, wasnt trying to steal anyones thunder, just though the image was better without text. Feel free to revert it if you disagree. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:49, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm not sure where you got your image, but just in case, here is an enlarged version of the smaller image on imgur- . I don't know how well the quality compares (I am not really all that familiar on the technical aspects- it's amazing I even know how to upload an image at all! XD), but maybe this could help... --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:50, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke's purple Rinnegan
I understand completely. In fact, I prefer that image even more than the one I posted- funny enough, that was the initial image I intended to post instead. However, then I recalled back to a few years ago when there was an issue with posting an image of Sasuke's EMS before the anime version of it was released. Someone did the exact same thing you did (posting an image of just the eye), buy it was constantly reverted in order to show all of Sasuke's face with the eye. I cannot remember the justifications for this reasoning, but I was just trying not to repeat the same issue that happened awhile ago. Anyways, I don't think you were trying to belittle anyone at all, and I thank you for actually taking the time to leave me a response. Thanks, and have a great day! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 00:42, October 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I love that image- easily the best one we've seen. Not only does it show all the tomoe, but it is also colored by Kishimoto himself. While it's not really a big deal since Shueisha corrected their error, but it is nice to have an image colored by Kishi directly. After I read the mangastream version, I had planned to upload the image, but Sarutobi beat me to it...--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 16:10, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hey whats up
No need to get all mean and stuff man lol. I wasn't going to change it again if it was reverted. Where all friends here so i would "NOT" try to pick a fight with anyone. sorry if it seemed like i was :) Munchvtec (talk) 12:03, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

New Idea
I would like to hear your input on the Appearance section forum thread please. Munchvtec (talk) 17:09, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

re: d
Red draws the eye where/when it appears. In a topic with eight participants, each of whom have a red tag, that becomes distracting. Green informs without interrupting the actual reading process. ~SnapperTo 20:08, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

(I'm just going to use this heading again) Then this is an excellent opportunity to explain things to him, and perhaps form a compromise if possible. If he ends up being unreasonable then we'll close the thread at that point. We should at least try to be understanding. ~SnapperTo 02:55, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

(recycle, reduce, reuse) Speysider made the same request (I think) when the forums opened and it was non-controversial then (I think). But I don't know if it's a privilege that can be cordoned off like that, at least not with the current version of Wikia. You'd have to ask others. ~SnapperTo 03:08, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * To expand somewhat, I believe the intention of the remove feature is so that you can remove your own posts for whatever reason. But the software has no way of discriminating "your" posts from "others'", permitting abuse. The intention is nice, the abuse less so. ~SnapperTo 03:13, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * (I miss the old skin where I could tell if I had messages before I replied.) I don't know. If you can find something in Special:ListGroupRights that looks like a remove right, then it can probably be implemented. If not, you'd need to put it on your Christmas list for Wikia staff. ~SnapperTo 03:16, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither you nor I can remove specific rights from a user/group. If you can find some indication that post removal is its own right by reading through that special page I linked, then, with the wiki's consensus, it can be requested that the right be restricted. ~SnapperTo 03:23, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Did you find out if it's an actual divisible right? Because if it's not, that would save you some trouble since it wouldn't matter whether you discuss it.
 * Otherwise, make a topic in the forums. Do not frame it as a problem that mods or whoever experience but that all users experience. ("mod"/"sysop"/"rollback" actually shouldn't be brought up as often as they are since they're not really important.) Explain what the removal feature's apparent intention is, like I did above, but point out that it's having unintended side-effects. If you make people feel like they're victims rather than perpetrators they are less likely to react with hostility. ~SnapperTo 04:11, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Canon
Canon is the official continuation of a story. Filler (or non-canon) is anything that attempts to fill in the gaps or expand on portions of the official work. In the case of Naruto, the entirety of the manga is canon, as the manga is the official work. Anything that contradicts the manga, expands on the manga, or fills in the gaps in the manga, is not canon, and therefore not official as far as the series is concerned. The only exception to this rule is media that the author declares canon to his/her series. For example, in Star Wars, prior to the series' purchase by Disney, the original six movies were "canon". Nonetheless, thousands of novels, comics, cartoons, etc. were based off of those movies which expanded tremendously off of the original work. George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, then declared these novels canon to his series so long as they did not contradict his movies, or other novels already in existence: this became the Star Wars "Expanded Universe".

An example to the contrary is Dragon Ball GT. Like Naruto, the Dragon Ball series has a canon manga. It also had an anime, many movies, and a sequel anime, which was written by an anime company, not Toriyama: called Dragon Ball GT. GT expanded after the manga's ending (as did several movies). Only two movies, so far, have been declared canon: and only by Toriyama himself. Toriyama, though, did help with GT and almost all of the movies, so just saying an author helping makes the movie canon is false and stupidity. Some try to justify Kishi's involvement in The Last, along with its setting after the Naruto series ends, as proof that it is canon to the manga. Until Kishi says otherwise, it is not. It is like every other movie: non-canon, filler, basically legal fan fiction.

That is the difference between canon and non-canon. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 19:38, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Chat
Yeah, sure thing, I'm in there now. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 22:29, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Indra
Why the rollback on Indra's personal information ? I tried to make it more lively... It wasn't a spoiler, a spam and surely not a bad change.. --SeraphAngel (talk) 23:55, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Chatting!
Apologies......but my wifi connection got weak and slow and therefore, I lost access to the internet :/ --Hisana456 (talk) 03:34, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Happens sometimes to us all too....poor connection ;) --Hisana456 (talk) 03:44, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm amazed you think the majority drops by this wiki at all. Yes, it's called social media, and not only that but my own friends (who like Naruto :p) are only crying whether he gets Hinata or Sakura.....it's sad really :( --Hisana456 (talk) 03:56, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Being a Sakura-fan (since ages), I like to say that she has the right to be with anyone whom she chooses herself (specifically Kishi)--Hisana456 (talk) 03:57, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Exactly! --Hisana456 (talk) 04:11, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Two things
Thank you very much for your trust. I'm going to archive my talkpage, as you suggested. Have a nice day.-- JOA20 08:47, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum policy
You can use for all forum policy violations. :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 09:16, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Close and remove
A thread that has been removed is hidden from view, but anyone who knows the url of the thread can simply restore it and post again. A thread has been closed is still visible but a user cannot attempt to make the thread postable again. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:13, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem!
 * I generally archive my talkpage when it has more than 50 headings, but it's random and whenever I feel like archiving. It ain't that long compared to some others and what's in my archive ;) --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:17, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Colored chapter
Yo! Can you give me a link to the colored chapter? • Seelentau 愛 議 12:16, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Aye, thanks a lot! :) • Seelentau 愛 議 16:53, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I saw it last night... Thanks for the link anyway, though! It looks amazing; hopefully they will do this for every one of these last four chapters... --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 18:55, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Request
I request rollback status. I can give reasons if needed. Munchvtec (talk) 18:16, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Reasons: Munchvtec (talk) 18:28, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of vandalism and bad edits made and im on at least 5 days a week and i revert many.
 * Ive done a lot of good quality work on the wiki and i personally believe i deserve some type of promotion but that's my opinion.
 * I know all the rules and the Rollback rules and have studied them carefully.

Ill let you decide because i got to go now. see ya later. Munchvtec (talk) 18:35, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Chat
I'm there, alright.-- JOA20 20:04, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sysop Discussion thread moderation
Just a note, do moderate the discussion, but you don't have to delete the comments simply with flippant reasoning. The counts at the top are nice, but ultimately I'm going to be reading the rationales themselves to decide. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:21, October 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, not saying it's a problem, just that it's not really something you have to bother doing. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:32, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Where've you been?
Thanks KazeHoshi-san for your kind words and yeah.. I've been absent for three months ago because I'm too busy in my real life. So I'll be here from time to another to see what's new but not like I was in the past. Congratulations for being one of the chat mods in this wiki. You deserve it perfectly. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:34, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * You know I was absent for a while, so what's the Narutopedia Members Box anyway? Sorry for that. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:39, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha ... Your orders, sir!! ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:43, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems you're doing a great job here and thanks for your efforts for uploading those colored chapters in the wiki. By the way, in WSJ issue #43, there is an art collection of the series done by Kishimoto was published in that issue. Do you have an access to get that collection? Here is the link. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:52, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, the link that I provided to you is the digital release of that issue. I asked if you have a copy of that digital issue, it'd be useful for us. That's how. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 20:59, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help. I appreciate your hard work here... ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 21:03, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Hi WindStar, I'm just curious about the color pages of the recent chapters. Would you mind to provide me some source where was established the officialization of this or something related? I ask you because I feel you might know something about this and if you don't, could you tell me who does?. Thank you in advance. Leo Hatake  21:44, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Although I appreciate the images, I wasn't asking about that. I just want to know if the color pages were official, where was this established and why is Kishimoto doing this until now? Does this is related to the ending of the manga or what?. Leo  Hatake  21:59, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I understand. Thanks for the help. Leo  Hatake  22:06, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Hagoromo's coloring
How can that image of his coat be wrong color, we're never seen the back of Hagoromo's actual coat that he wore during his lifetime colored in the manga. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:07, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Im talking about his actual coat, not his chakra manifestation form. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:14, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay then --Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:22, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Sage Technique Trivia
I swear I didn't touch that part...only changed empowered to heightened :|... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:20, October 14, 2014 (UTC)