Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27429908-20151221021631/@comment-25122992-20151221111808

AsianReaper wrote: Madara didn't create the Uchiha. The war between Senju and Uchiha was going on before Hashi and Madara even reached adulthood.

I think you mean "destroyer."

Itachi had help killing the Uchiha clan too. He did it with Obito.

Does Madara have any feats at all with Genjutsu?

Personally I'd say Madara. As skilled as Itachi is, Madara has skill AND overwhelming stamina to back it up. And truth be told, I doubt Itachi's Yata mirror can block Tengai Shinsei (Giant meteor thing). I think Madara just overwhelms Itachi here. Itachi may be slightly more skilled, but Madara is one of the most skilled shinobi ever, and he has enough chakra to battle Hashirama to exhaustion. Well, firstly it depends on Madara's version we talking about. I think Itachi could possibly beat MS Madara. EMS Madara is already above him in all the characteristics they both had (except for genjutsu mastery, which is still Itachi's specific trait). Madara who's able to use Tengai Shinsei is Rinnegan Madara, but it doesn't even come to the question that Rinnegan Madara would rip Itachi apart anyway.