Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150704102606/@comment-26005711-20150720195256

Thekillman wrote: Orochimaru's goal was to destroy the village, which Hiruzen thwarted. Hiruzens only goal was to save the village. On a strategic level, Hiruzen won the battle and so Orochimaru was defeated. Not bad for a 70-year-old. Oh and yea it was three, not two shadoclones. I don't know, but doesn't that automatically put his chakra levels above Kakashi's? He used two Shadow Clones (one to seal Hashirama, one to seal Tobirama, and he sealed Oro's hands). He didn't win because he lost his life, and Oro was alive after that battle. Yes, he stopped Oro, but if we count the result, then Oro wins, because he lost hands, but Hiruzen lost life, and later Oro broke the seal.