User talk:Hmalkhawam

Hi Malkhawam! I just wanted to give you a special note. If you got one of your very interesting thoughts directed to me and I don't answer it after a few days, give me a note on my own talk page and I check it as soon I can. Jacce 16:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks Jacce! Mhalkhawam HMA 06:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

Answer to Moves
The things that happends in the games are not considerd to be canon. However, in Shippuden he uses a more concentrated Chidori, even compared to Kakashis Raikiri, at least in Part I. When Sasuke is fighting Deidara, Deidara calls it Raikiri, although Sasuke corrects him with: "it is called Chidori". When Sasuke first learned Chidori, Might Guy called it: "Chidori, nicknamed Raikiri after Kakashi splited a lightning with it". I think that Chidori is the jutsus real name, while the term Raikiri that is used only by Kakshi to describe his more focused form of Chidori. After Orochimarus traing with Sasuke, Sasuke's Chidori is presumably worthy to be called Raikiri, although he seams to prefer to use the name Chidori. Jacce 05:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I hope I understood you right if I give you this answer: When Naruto uses the fox chakra up to the third tailed transformation the fox chakra leaks out and creates a shield around Naruto, sometimes called "chakra cloak". When he comes to the fourth tailed transformation the chakra cloak replaces his skin and transform Naruto to a medium for the fox chakra. So the forth tail transformation is simply the same chakra cloak as before, it has just more power and have replaced Naruto's skin. If you remember, Orochimaru's Kusanagi sword couldn't pierce the fourth tail transformation's skin. Jacce 09:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The Rasengan he created with just Kyubi's power during the fight in the valley of the end has been nicknamed "Demon Fox Rasengan", but since Naruto seems unabel to maintain his mind from the Four-Tailed Transformation and forward, I think Kyubi wouden't use Rasengan, but if he would, it would supposedly be "Nine Tailed Rasengan" to separate the two. If my memory serves, Naruto has been given a full Nine-Tailed Transformation in some games, but not in the manga or the anime. The farest he have gone in the manga/anime is the Four-Tailed Transformation. My best guess about Sasuke's jutsu in episode 53 is that he was going to use Kirin. The stance is the same, although he diden't created any storm clouds. Don't know why: from story view I would say the considerd the clouds to be enough; and from real world view: Masashi Kishimoto diden't want to unfold Sasuke's new mysterious jutsu or just haden't completed the jutsu yet. Jacce 18:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Something that goes for everything from the games: it is not canon. So no, Naruto has not a nine-tailed transformation. Jacce 19:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. For now, he just have a miniature fox form. If he ever will be abel to use a full beast form depends on the seal on his stomach, his willpower and mental strength, if he survives Pain and Sasuke's attack and if Sakura dosen't beat him to death the next time he does something stupid and perverted. Jacce 19:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

That depends if someone else knows the jutsu. If Amaterasu should be transfered it must be done by either Sasuke or possible Mandara. Jacce 06:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry again. I think it still works, but we can't be sure until Mandara shows his face for Sasuke again. Jacce 06:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I know is that Itachi gave Naruto "some of my [Itachi's] power". What it was is still unknown, although I guess we will found out if/when Sasuke and Naruto fight next time. Itachi's gift to Sasuke was definitely Transcription Seal: Amaterasu and possible Tsukuyomi & Susanoo. Mandara says: "he [Itachi] transfered all his eye jutsus to you [Sasuke]", but it could be a mistranslation. Jacce 06:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

So far he has only used one at the time. If he can use more is unknown. Jacce 05:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

A chidori with more power would presumably just enhance its power, although it is powerful just as it is, so more power could result in fewer chidoris that day or death for the user. To make it more concentrated, (like Kakashi's raikiri or Sasuke's chidori in part 2), the user would need to improve his/her chakra control. Jacce 07:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

A non-concentrated Chidori is more or less a big ball of electricity, a concentrated chidori is smaller, presumably more powerful, and looks more like a glove (refered to Raikiri by Kakashi). More thrust (I suppose higher speed), means that the hand holding the chidori cuts deeper. Jacce 12:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The reason the user must run in a straight line while using chidori is because it gives most thrust. Chidori is properly speaking just a ball of electricity surrounding the hand. In order to use it, the user must run at high speed (creating more power than just a simple punch) and throw a punch with the chidori hand. The force in the movement and the electricity cuts just about everything. Less thrust means less cutting power. Jacce 19:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I hope I got this right. At I would say he is doing a part II Chidori, also known as Raikiri (Kakashi only), and  he is using a part I chidori. And for the record, chidori senbon, chidori blade (and as far as I know) all Sasuke's new lightning moves starts with a chidori, then he is using shape manipulating chakra to form the chidori into whatever he needs. And since amaterasu is using fire, it might be a fire element jutsu, but since it's kekkei genkai, it's hard to say. Jacce 07:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


 * All I can say is that he would survive, since Kakashi once (according to Might Guy) cut a lightning in half with a chidori. After that, Kakashi nicknamed chidori to raikiri. Jacce 12:44, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

In part I Sasuke's chidori was more white than Kakashi's chidori/raikiri (that was more blue with a white core), supposedly because Kakashi had better control over his chakra. So far Sasuke has not used a normal chidori in the Shippūden anime, but I guess it is more blue, like Kakashi's raikiri. For Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana, Sasuke is sending a chidori into his sword blade, (at least if you trust Yamato). And in chapter 392 page 2, Itachi says that Susanoo was awaken with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi "within these eyes on that fateful day". So yes, Susanoo is a mangekyo technique. Jacce 14:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back. Consider the possibility that it is more Demon fox then Naruto who makes the Demon Fox Rasengan, I don't think that Naruto's wind chakra can be added to this version of the Rasengan. If a shadow clone could withstand the pain it might work, like now when Naruto is making a Wind Rasengan with one clone adding the wind part. But the biggest question is: would it be worth it? We have only seen Demon Fox Rasengan in use once, and it wasen't easy to determit how powerful it was since it meet Sasuke's cursed seal chidori. Jacce 16:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I haven't played the games but after reading and seeing videos of them beeing used I have created a hypothesis; the game versions of tsukuyomi & amaterasu is just regular tsukuyomi & amaterasu used in different ways and named for the games special events. Hope that was helpful. Jacce 10:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * However, if Sasuke would turn while using his chidori he would need a large area to turn on, somewhat like a long distans runner in the Olympic Games. Smaller turn = more loss of power. His brute strength could be useful at the end, when he is going to hit his target.

And combinding a non element jutsu (shape manipulating) with element chakra (element manipulating), to make a element/shape manipulating jutsu is exactly what Naruto has done with Wind Release: Rasengan & Wind Release: Rasenshuriken, Sasuke has done with his chidori katana & chidori senbon and Kakashi with chidori. So if Kyuubi stands for the shape manipulating, Naruto stands for wind chakra. Jacce 11:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

In episode 51, the only time Sai is talking about brute strength is when Sasuke escapes his ink snakes. However, if Sasuke just would hit someone with chidori and just brute strength he would cause less damage, but presumably enough to kill someone. This happed in his fight against Naruto at the vally of the end. Sasuke made a good hole in Naruto's shoulder, but kyuubi saved Naruto from beeing killed. Jacce 12:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

He runs from one point to another, but he is still running straight, he builds up great power, using his strong leg muscles. I would say he simply stop (like if he hit something) and then turns and run back. Since he has some distans to the target, he can create big cuttingpower. Insted of turning, I would say that he uses chidori over and over again, only with the same electricity. Jacce 13:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It wasen't easy to watch that, but I have created a theory; the thing Sasuke is doing when he changes direction in the air is taken from when Rock Lee fought Gaara during the chunin exam. Exept the fact that when Rock Lee did it he jumped from the walls and ceiling at high speed. I guess they thought of the time when Sasuke copied most of Rock Lee's taijutsu and thought that Sasuke should do the same. Doing something like that in the anime would presumably not be possible. Jacce 14:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't heard about Sasuke's Growth Rate is not normal. Jacce HMA 06:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

The part with Sora's Kyubi chakra absorbed is true as far as I remember. However I don't think anyone has said who was the strongest, so that is up to anyones guess. Jacce 06:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Since Sora is a anime only character I doubt Naruto will be affected. However, I think it is possible that Kyubi got a boost of power with the absorbation.

I have giving this some serious thinking, and have a theory. When someone activate the Mangekyo Sharingan, they awake some sort of demon inside themself, slowly starting their journey into darkness. A double Mangekyo Sharingan (a eternal Mangekyo Sharingan), gives the user control over their inner demon and its abilitys (immortality, teleportation, and so on). So far it is just a theory, nothing certain. Jacce 10:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would guess that their natural abilities are enhanced even without activating the seal. Jacce 21:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Most of the info about the cursed seals are a big mystery. I would say one abillity, (like speed or strength) is enhanced during normal stage. Which abillity depending on the seal. I think Kidomaru has a third eye even without his seal, but his seal gives him even better accurancy. I would guess his clan are good archers. Jacce 09:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say that Sasuke's speed increased, and that his anger and hate gave him strength, or he just had worked out enough to lift Naruto, or he had some juice left from when he enterd stage 2. Jacce 11:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Snake jutsus, Sharingan use, shape manipulating chakra, combinding shape and element chakra, ninjutsu, genjutsu, speed, stamina and seal knowledge are things that has enhanced. If he learned any more is currently unknown. Jacce 11:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * If my memory serves the name was given by the third databook. I am not sure what you mean with the part of chidori current, but it has been described as a "full-body chidori", so insteed of fokusing the electricity to the hand, it goes in the entire body. Jacce 13:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't found any website for the third databook but leafninja only uses info from the manga, anime and databooks. You could try this page too . Or else it is just to wait until you can buy the databook in the bookstore or wherever they sell manga stuff. And Chidori current dosen't seems to be fokused. Jacce 14:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce I know the Chidori Current isn't focused, but isn't the Chidori Current just a non focused chidori so it becomes around the full-body than being in the hand or not? Mhalkhawam HMA 15:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * So you mean like that. From all I can see he dosen't create a chidori before activating the current, so I would say that current is a independent jutsu that creates a chidori arund the users body. Jacce 15:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * He has using the basic traning in lightning chakra to make jutsus like Kirin and the basic of Chidori to transform a chidori to a sword, senbon or a field around himself. Jacce 16:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Using lightning chakra and mix it with shape manipulating chakra. Jacce 16:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * They have chidori as base, and some of them are made from a chidori. Kirin only needs a chidori as guide. Jacce 17:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say that Chidori Current, Chidori Senbon, Chidori Sharp Spear and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana was made out of chidori and that Kirin was made from the basics. Jacce 11:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I tryed this video, don't know if it shows what you were talking about. If it was right, I would say that the ring around Sasuke is wasted energi. And the more concentrated chidori can come from greather chakra controll. Jacce 12:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Those rings was present first time Kakashi used Raikiri and Sasuke used Chidori (at least in the anime). I think it is because some of the electricity flees from the users hand, since lightning is drawn to the earth's polarity. The rings are caused because the energy spreds in all direction. The number of rings is presumably dependent on how mutch energy that takes of and how mutch control the user has over the electric charge. Jacce 14:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Chidori Current, Chidori Sharp Spear, Chidori Senbon and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana was created from chidori, and all but Chidori Current starts with a chidori, so they are presumably equal. Chidori Current is presumably somewhat weaker, since it can't cut that mutch, but it is a entirely different type of jutsu, it is supposed to defend, not attack. In part I Kakashi's raikiri was probably stronger then Sasuke's chidori, but in part II they are probably equal. I don't think it is the jutsu who win the fight, it is the user. Lightning Hound is a completly new jutsu, it has only been shown once and then it was stopped, so it is impossible to say how strong it is. Lightning Blade Double Charge is just two raikiris, stronger, but less useful and more power draning. Jacce 15:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say Sasuke's chidori and Kakashi's raikiri is equal. And as I said: Chidori Sharp Spear, Chidori Senbon and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana starts with a chidori, so their power are the same. Based on size, Lightning Hound is stronger then chidori, and Kirin is clearly stronger then chidori. Jacce 16:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Since Kirin is made of natural lightning, it would be logical to say it moves with the speed of lightning (30 000 km/s, 1/10 of the speed of light) and I would love to meat the person who can run faster then that. And I would guess that Sasuke's part II chidori and Kakashi's part II raikiri are equal, since the power comes from chakra controll, (more power would just mean more strain to the body). Jacce 17:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Let us make one thing clear: Chidori will never be stronger then Kirin. Let's say Sasuke put all his concentration into a chidori = he vill have a sharp chidori, but won't be abel to move since he is fokusing on his hand. If he uses all his chakra = 1) he will not be abel to move since he has used up all his stamina 2) even if he would be abel to move: he would die afterwards for using up all his energi. And finally: Kirin covers a big area, chidori is good for one person. And one more thing, a airplane can fly fast but has slow acceleration, so Sasuke would probably be abel to outrun a airplane on a short distance. Jacce 19:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Mangekyo Sharingan is dojutsu, a weapon, it consumes chakra, it dosen't enhances chakra. And I have never heard of Sharingan chakra. Jacce 06:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Chidori was created by Kakashi before he got a Sharingan from Obito. Kakashi planed to use it instead of Rasengan, which is a uncompleted jutsu. However, he was forced to move so fast he couden't track his opponent, so Minato forbid Kakashi to use chidori again. However, with the Sharingan given to Kakashi, he could track the opponent. So the only connection Sharingan and chidori has is that the user must have a Sharingan if he wants to use chidori effectively. Jacce 06:42, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * What the fox meant is still unknown. Jacce 07:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Compare jutsus like this is very hard. Chidori cuts objects, Amaterasu burns them. Chidori hits one person, Amaterasu cover a big area. Chidori can be used a coupel of times a day, Amaterasu puts a high strain on the eye. Amaterasu seams to be stronger. I'm not sure what the fox ment by talking about Sasuke's chakra, but he could have talked about the cursed seal. Using the cursed seal with chidori = Flapping Chidori. Jacce 07:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would guess that they are talking about his skill with Sharingan, that his Sharingan was powerful. And I guess a stronger chidori would mean that it causes more damage to its surrondings. And a intense chidori shines more, and maybe it is more powerful then normal. Jacce 08:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Never heard about intense Chidori, but I would guess a intense chidori shines more, and that it is more powerful then normal. Jacce 15:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * When Sasuke fought Itachi Sasuke started with a chidori and transformed it into a chidori current. However, they where both fighting with genjutsu at that time, so if he can do it again is not sure. Yamato says that Sasuke was sending a chidori down the blade, but since Chidori and chidori current more or less is the same thing it is hard to say. And I haven't played any Naruto game, but I would guess he used some chakra boos, like the cursed seal, drugs, or something else. Jacce 12:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would guess that Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana could be a viarant of chidori current, although I think it's more likely that all viarants were made from chidori. Since it is a game, it could just be a mistake from the gamemakers or a case of misjudging chidoris power. Personally I diden't noticed any differens when Sasuke used chidori. Jacce 06:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The fact it was bigger could mean just lesser control over the chakra. In the manga/anime when Sasuke fought Itachi in part I, he seemed quite angry, weakend his concentration. Doing chidori in the air and returning to the same spot sounds like something we already talked about, (when Sasuke copying Lee's taijutsu when Lee jumped from wall to wall while fighting Gaara). The fact that he is returning to the same spot is probably because it will be easyer for the person playing the game to follow Sasuke. And the chidori senbon page just said that "like chidori current it numbs the target". However, I haven't seen any proof of that, so I removed it. And chidori sharp blade is clearly a chidori with more shape manipulating chakra. Jacce 07:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * If you are refering to the thing the did between 0:45 to 0:48 it was just a chidori with no thrust. He simply makes a chidori and stands still but is still hitting his target. Less to no cutting power but a lot of pain. Jacce 08:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * All I can see is Sasuke starting a chidori and jumping around with it. Jacce 08:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I have been looking at this video several times over between 0:16 and 0:17 and all I see is Sasuke start a chidori, making a somersault in the air and running around at high speed. I don't understand what you are asking for. Jacce 09:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * And you don't think it is just Sasuke moving really fast. All the other times you se Sasuke moving fast you can se several Sasukes moving towards the target. Jacce 10:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Either he hitted something that stoped him, or he just wanted to get rid of the people arund him so he just hitted them, or he was sending it into the ground. Swift Lightning Mode was something new for me, I haven't heard something simmilar in the manga or anime. If this dosen't help I am going for the games talk page. Jacce 11:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I can only remember he did it once, during the fight with Itachi in part II (when they were using genjutsu remember?). Since lightning is drawn to earth most of it would disapper, however Chidori should be strong enough to make the ground arund Sasuke electric for a short while, hurting the people arund him. Jacce 12:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think Kakashi did something simmilar in the fouth movie, but he has probebly better controll over his feelings, so he was abel to lead the electric the was he wanted, atleast for a short time. Jacce 14:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Using the lightning produced from chidori and using a chidori to create new jutsus are more or less the same thing. Naruto has created several jutsus with his shadow clones, and they all are considerd to be their own jutsu.
 * The fourth Mangekyo jutsu is still unknown exept for it's existence, but I don't think you can mix a black fire, a deadly genjutsu and a spirit with a indestructible shield and a non-physical sword.
 * Yes probably. Jacce 06:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce please tell me your true answer of this question. Even if you say this is better, it's ok. So here is the question. If Sasuke makes his Chidori as intense as possible and put as much thrust as possible and put all his chakra (I don't care about dying) and used his highest speed (blink of an eye) and put as much concentration as possible and used all his brute strength and used his sharingan (even Mangekyo Sharingan and if he gets Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan too) and is in full strength (His health full), would it be possible for Chidori to beat Kirin (don't care about the area)? Please say your true opinion without lying. And say {I swear} after you finish. Mhalkhawam HMA 09:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Since Kirin is using nature itself, it is impossible to overcome it with any means possible, which really is the meaning of Kirin. Let's start from the begining:
 * 1; Sasuke tryed to use chidori on Itachi in part I, failing.
 * 2; Sasuke is obsessed with killing Itachi, leding to his defection from Kohona and going to Orochimaru.
 * 3; At Orochimaru's lair, Sasuke decides to invent a jutsu that can defet Itachi, which must be stronger and faster then chidori, since it has proven to be pretty mutch useless against Itachi. So he creates Kirin, a jutsu using nature itself, giving it power beyond any humans reach. That is my opinon about Kirin that has grown since you first asked the question and was recently finished (thank you for that). And I'm sorry about the last answer, I had a bad day. However, all I said to day is true, I swear. Jacce 09:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ad one zero and I think you are close. Jacce 12:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Probably. Jacce 13:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Is Kirin stronger than a Lightning Bolt? And say the truth. Who which jutsu is stronger. Sasuke's Chidori or Kakashi's Lightning Blade? Put I swear after you say the answer. Mhalkhawam HMA 13:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC).
 * A Lightning Bolt is probably weaker then Kirin, since Kirin seams to be made of more electricity. Sasuke's chidori and Kakashi's Raikiri is the same jutsu (at least in part II), so their power are equal. Kakashi nicknamed Chidori Raikiri after he splited a Lightning Bolt with it, but it is still the same jutsu. During Sasuke's fight with Deidara, Deidara said that Sasuke used Raikiri several times, but towards the end of the fight Sasuke says: "and by the way, the jutsu is called Chidori". I swear. Jacce 14:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce I know they are both the same, but compare. When Sasuke used Chidori against Kirabi (the one who has the eight tails) and when Kakashi used Lightning Blade against Pain, which one is stronger (even if it was a little bit, and don't forget to say I swear)? Mhalkhawam HMA 14:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC).
 * As far as I can se, they are equal. Jacce 14:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

In Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Accel 2, which one of them is stronger? And look at the images and video's of Chidori: Thunder and tell what is it (like if it is a strong Chidori or etc......)? Mhalkhawam HMA 14:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Raikiri vs Chidori in Narutimate Accel 2 = diden't find any video.
 * Chidori: Thunder should be stronger, since it would not be called Chidori: Thunder if it wasen't different.
 * And why not try what these guys are doing: . Jacce 15:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce try to find a video of Sasuke vs Kakashi in Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Accel 2 and also explain Chidori: Thunder? Mhalkhawam HMA 15:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC).