Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20150410212019/@comment-142748-20150413015357

Trappedinmygenjutsu wrote: Ameterasu and Yasaka Magatama don't need to directly hit Hashirama, only clear a path from his mokuton technique and distract Hashirama for a split second. But...neither would distract him. And Itachi would be in worse shape after since either technique will take more than 30% of his chakra and he'll suffer the backlash. The argument isn't this is Itachi and he can do what ever. It is Itachi's fighting style in the manga and all the other different Naruto mediums. Itachi's fighting style isn't that different and he still falls into a pattern. -During the first fight he was shown in, Kurenai used her genjutsu on Itachi and he turned the tide of battle by reflecting it. Isn't that a standard Uchiha genjutsu? How is that something that puts him apart? -Orochimaru, went for a sneaky kill on Itachi and yet Itachi turned the tide of the battle yet again with his genjutsu (wasn't even facing Orochimaru at the time). Snakes produced from Orochimaru's body are connected to him, thus susceptible to the eye contact his snake made. And Orochimaru wasn't even his best there nor was he was he trying to kill Itachi, he was trying to steal his body. He was in the same state he was right before Sasuke attacked him. - Deidara thought he was going to land a killing blow against Itachi and nearly killed himself due to Itachi using his genjutsu in order to have Deidara use his own explosive style onto himself. Deidara didn't even know of the Sharingan of that time. He was a nine year old kid who thought he was the best! He made eye contact stupidly and acted recklessly. - Kabuto though he had Itachi on the ropes, just for Itachi to trap him inside Izanami. ...Itachi wouldn't have even been able to get Izanami off if it weren't for Sasuke's aid. Itachi was completely and utterly outclassed in every confrontation with Kabuto. Sasuke's aid allowed Itachi to set Izanami up and allowed Itachi to survive, if he faced Kabuto alone he'd have been turned back into Kabuto's puppet. The scenarios I have previously posted are accurate of how both characters have fought during the series, as well as taking into account their thought process while being in a fight move by move. No, the scenario you posted made Hashirama look like a moron who couldn't easily see that Itachi was a Uchiha in the first place/ Previous posts display that Itachi does have amazing feats of reaction speeds. Zetsu even went as far as to state that Itachi is invincible while he has his Susanoo, Yata Mirror and Totsuka blade (Zetsu has existed since the time of Kaguya and has witnessed countless others such as Hagoromo, Hamura, Indra, Asura, Hashirama, Madara, Obito, etc). All that is hype and not even proven. Black Zetsu saying Itachi was invincible is hyperbole, its a deliberate exaggeration. Nothing his Susanoo has shown even with both items puts it up on the strongest level in the Narutoverse. Unless you can show Itachi's Yata Mirror blocking something like a Bijudama, much less a Ten-Tails Bijudama, all that Black Zetsu said was baseless.