Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26104757-20170619053257/@comment-5085906-20170705213657

@Namikazenaruto9

I'll counter your points:

1) Pretty sure the example you provided is non-canon. Even so, I have no idea what Hidan's pain resistance has anything to do with..anything. Doesn't matter if he's resistant to pain or not - what matters is we've seen Hidan slip up a number of times. If it wasn't for Kakuzu covering his ass, he would have been dead long ago. He fell for Shikamaru's many tricks (who is genius level, yes, but in no way more experienced than Tsunade and Chiyo) and was fooled by Kakashi numerous times. We haven't seen any speed feats of him which a Kage like Tsunade can't overcome and aside from the suicide attacks, there really isn't that much of a good co-operation between him and Kakuzu. If anything, they're always squabbling and quite reluctant to help one another.

2)I mean, there's no telling that Tsunade can't rip him apart with her superhuman strength. After all, Jiraiya, a sannin, did say that taking Tsunade's punch documented his first brush with death and we've seen her lift Gamabunta's sword. But if we assume that can't be done, then there's always Chiyo. Her Father and Mother puppets have a lot of sharp tools hidden within them while one of her Chikamatsu Collection puppets has a chakra blade similar to Asuma's pair installed in it. She could dice him quite easily.

3)Sure, but even if Hidan does extract her blood, he still has to draw the pentagram thingie, an opportunity which Tsunade could either use to activate her healing techs or just snap him like a twig. She could also use Body Pathway Derangement to immobilize him - he's not as cerebral as Kabuto, so it would probably take him a longer time to adapt itself to it. Plus, Tsunade does have some rather good speed feats. She could fight alongside Ay in his lightning cloak in the Fourth War. I think she could just as easily dodge most of Hidan's attacks.

4)Look man, I'm not saying that Kakuzu's masks can't cause damage, but they'll probably injure Chiyo more than Tsunade. Her Creation Rebirth technique (along with it's more improved variants) is a technique that even goddamn Orochimaru, the biggest fan of immortality, is jealous of. So if Orochimaru's jealous of it but you say that Kabuto's healing is more advanced, then why the hell didn't Orochimaru harvest Kabuto's healing? And wow, a Part I Naruto rasengan hardly compares to a Part II HaxMadara susanoo blade - yet Tsunade tanked that blade like she'd just gotten a papercut and threw it back at Madara. Also, pretty sure she summoned Katsuyu while bisected though I'm not sure if this is canon or anime-only.

I apologize for the confusion, by the way. I was thinking of early Part II Sakura. My mistake. And no, she was WAY behind Tsunade at that point. She couldn't release the Byakugo seal or summon Katsuyu. That, coupled with the fact that she requires using chakra to power up her attacks, made her vastly inferior to Tsunade.

Kakuzu's long range attacks could damage Chiyo, but her Mother and Father set had chakra shields which could probably help with surviving that attack. Chiyo herself also had modified her hand with a similar chakra shield. Granted, she would lose some of her puppets (never said this fight would be an easy win), but so long as she remained in the game long enough to keep the duo occupied, their victory would be inevitable.

@Bipedmango - Kakuzu is not Sannin level. Close, but not there. He defeated Kakashi in hand to hand combat because Kakashi was too busy alternating between fighting Hidan and saving Choji and Ino (who for the life of me I do not know why they invited).