Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170116074632/@comment-30168130-20170120020340

actually, nature energy is used by itself when a sm user uses frog kata.... I think.. well, jiraya can make clones, can he not? if he were to know bout their abilities he could use them just as well as Naruto did (to gather more normal chakra, so that he can make more sage chakra from it.. that would make it infinite in a way).