Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26636534-20160112110326

@LoneNinja

You should be very careful when using the word fanboy, because some might then call you a fanboy. Itachi is very powerful we all know that, but Jiraiya is a match for him no doubt. I see you have not moved on from Amaterasu and its usage and that is quite unfortunate as this has been a point of discussion for a long time. As for Jiraiya dealing with the black flames, sealing them is one option, but there are other options to deal with them.

Sound genjutsu has worked on Itachi before, so yes Jiraiya's sound genjutsu will work on him. You also keep on rehashing that Amaterasu will burn the toads if summoned, as if Itachi can spam Amaterasu on every toad he summons. Remember, Itachi still receives backlash from MS usage and drains his chakra significantly. It cannot be said how long it takes Jiraiya to summon the toads, so putting 30mins-1h is not acceptable, the only thing we know is it takes time.

You also say that Jiraiya has to use SM, well Itachi has to use his MS as well. People also greatly underestimate genjutsu that isn't Sharingan based. You continue saying that you only go off facts, yet you seem to forget some of them or make your own, let me remind you:

1. Itachi cannot spam Amaterasu

2. Itachi is susceptible to sound genjutsu

3. Jiraiya has more sage jutsus than toad chant

4. Jiraiya has greater reserves of chakra than Itachi

5. Jiraiya has much more intel on Itachi than Itachi has of him

I suggest you first take in all the facts before saying you only go off facts, or some might catch you out for lying, in any case if you are up for a real discussion then simply ask.