Forum:Madara and Obito Six Paths Jutsu Debate.

'''Can We Please settle this discussion once and for all? ''' Cerez said this in retaliation to all of the constant talk page battles on this wiki, on this topic: "Cerez365"

- [...]there's this fixation for seeing things in a character's infobox that they've never actually used but because they have x we do y. If you want the double standards and what not to stop then here's the thing: don't just sit back and cry foul for the characters you obsess about every other day, create a forum and see if you can get some action of creation a standard/guidelines for when and how characters are listed as users of a technique. That helps the wikia in a much bigger way.

Well, while im not mad at the comment, I totally agree with him. Fully. 100%. SO it's time to end this. At the beginning of the discussion (which can be found in the Six Paths Technique's talk page: It's about Time, I said this to kick off the discussion: "Koto Senju"

- It's about time we stop with the inconsistency and double-standard pit falls. Obito and Madara should be listed as the users of each and every path, like the Sage of the Six Paths. Before anyone chews my head off, lets review why. So, I'm not getting the issue here. As far as I'm concerned, a character is listed as a user of a technique, if he has been shown to do it, be mentioned to have done it, or has said themselves that they can do it. Doesn't what Madara said, fit at least one of these criteria? Please, someone explain why they shouldn't be listed as users? Otherwise, it's about time we add them, and put an end to many discussions wars.
 * The Sage has each path under his name due to the fact that he was said to have "Mastered the Rinnegan".
 * That's plausible and a good reason to list him as a user right? But what about Madara and Obito?
 * Madara has actually said, himself, that he was goin to teach Obito the justu of the Six Paths.
 * By that alone, they should be listed as users. If anything at all, he should at least be listed as a fellow user of the human path. Right? I mean, According to Madara, that jutsu was included in what was taught to Obito.

So, what do the rest of you think?  KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 15:39, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * On my part i'll only be repeating myself but i'll say it again. It's called Six Paths Technique...meaning it's the full package of the Paths...Obito mentioned to be capable of using different Paths than Madara, and Madara was the one who taught him that. I argue that Rinnegan users should have all the Paths listed as part of the dojutsu. In terms of the derived technique i oppose as some may have been developed by specific characters, but the Paths should be listed as part of the Six Paths Technique. Darksusanoo (talk) 16:00, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * The paths, I'm ok with, derived techniques, only if shown, mentioned, or reliably reasoned as a user. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:27, July 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed with Omnibender. I'm fine with the Paths, since that much is pretty much obvious. The derived techniques, on the other hand, not until their shown. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 19:33, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly my point. Thats the reason I started this discussion. It shouldn't have been debatable. I too agree. KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 19:34, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yay!! Now we're getting somewhere! I have no issues here. Jishaku Otoko (talk) 19:54, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Anyone who get the Rinnegan could use the Rikudō Jutsu with all its derived techniques, so I'd agree with Omni and TTF for the debut.  http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png  (Contact) 20:01, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with listing them as Path users. However, my comment was meant for all justsu as opposed to this one.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 20:28, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Kakashi has a sharingan but he is not an uchiha but he can use the abilities granted by the sharingan. Madara has the rinnegan but he is no sage of six paths. But he can use the Justus granted by the rinnegan. Same with obito. The whole point of the naruto series has been about power hungry ninjas trying to obtain the same strength as the sage of six paths and resurrecting the ten tails. so in a way it can be confirmed that six paths power and techniques are all obtainable and for the sake of good information six path users should be listed as well as with other Justus and techniques. Madara told Kabuto. That Kabuto did not create the six paths power and dropped two meteorites on the battlefield.

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