Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180607192958/@comment-9782468-20180902220630

@Kyfie

1) When Naruto dodged Ay's fastest punch, he told Naruto that he was only the second to dodge that punch. So during the fight with Minato, he was just as fast. So he had V2.

2) Logic? Sasuke was getting the crap kicked out of him by the 5 Kage. Mei and Ay had him on the ropes 1v1. And we know Bee and Ay sparred. So Bee was just impressed that a 17 y/old could fight at that level. But he wasn't the strongest.

3) Lemme fight this legendary shinobi who had flee-on-sight orders without my best powers. Powers that make me faster. Yeesh.

4) And Tobirama goes "4th, your Shunshin is better than mine." So, since they're conflicting statements, who is correct? Let's see. Hashirama said to warp them to the battlefield, yet they didn't all appear at the same time? Means they didn't use teleportation, since that's the same speed for everyone. The fact that no one had a mark on the battlefield? Means they couldn't FTG to the battlefield.

5) Many ninja have called Shunshin teleportation. They just call it that, because for all intents and purposes over short distances it's true.

6) Surpassed him in Sage Mode? Because Minato could hardly hold Sage Mode for one hit? Many people have said Naruto surpassed him, but they mean in certain areas. Like Kakashi said Naruto surpassed him when he created Rasenshuriken. Yet if they fought when he had made that jutsu, Kakashi would've won. He obviously meant surpassed him in the creation of their respective ultimate jutsu. When people talked about Minato, no one addressed certain aspects of him, they just said no one had surpassed him.

7) He literally telegraphed his target so hard. He was trying to show Ay something important. And what his priorities should be. He wasn't trying to kill Bee for no reason when they had been ordered a retreat, since that would cause another cycle of hatred, especially since his teacher was Jiraiya.

8) Hahahaha okay. You're ridiculous. You're gonna hold it against Minato that he was tagged by Juubito? A Ten Tailed Jinjuuriki? Here's some perspective for you.

Naruto, with half the 9 Tails, amped his speed and reactions to crazy levels.

You're saying it's weird that Obito, who now has more power than every Tailed Beast combined, shouldn't react to Minato? On top of that, the Juubi is literally the biggest mass of Nature Energy ever. SO he has sensing that far surpasses the same Sage Mode that allowed Madara to react to Tobirama's FTG. And you think Minato's a chump in speed for losing only his arm in that exchange? Cmon.

9) @NInja of War addressed this very well and you ignored it so whateve