Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20161229223656/@comment-26636534-20170103224109

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Hashirama did defeat madara with rinnegan but barely..(during the remainder of the fight he still has to hold madara down). I am still not sure as to how Izanagi could give danzo the required edge(since it's reality change like rewriting one's own death) now they are edos...and they can easily take most of the damage, In part-1 hiruzen fought on par with orochimaru and his weak edos, even though they were weaker than original; but even danzo is nowhere near hashirama's wood prowess so it would be stalemate, given danzo also has shisui's visual prowess... Tobirama would certainly be at huge disadvantage if he takes on itachi, he has no counters to itachi's genjutsu abilities on top of that itachi can destroy him with amaterasu(like he was going to do to nagato) and than their is totsuka blade which would definitely seal him. therefore I thought minato (tailed beast mode) is more preferable. He can counter all most all of itachi's abilities (except for totsuka blade) Hashirama had to keep Madara bound, but why didn't he just seal him away himself? Hashirama always managed to defeat Madara, no reason to assume otherwise. I was thinking of other uses for Izanagi, as re-writing reality is such a vague topic. Edo Danzo should be able to use the more powerful wood release techniques, just as Madara did. Tobirama definitely has the abilities to deal with Itachi, he has seen versions of Itachi's abilities before and is not gonna be surprised in battle. Minato vs Shisui should be good. Two super fast shinobi in battle. Who is faster?

@QuakingStar

Didn't Kabuto surpass Orochimaru? (As he said himself, he evolved from a snake into a dragon)