Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26403664-20160228225013/@comment-26403664-20160301023321

@MigShinobi The reason why one can argue that the yata mirror is a ninjutsu because it is from the Susanoo which is a ninjutsu and it is in the form of chakra. It's a susanoo spirit tool so it is being maifested by ninjutsu.

Like I said the Truth Seeking Balls are still beyond elemental ninjutsu. They are simply composed of six paths chakra or senjutsu, the five elements, and yin-yang release. They are in a completel different realm and are not elemental ninjutsu. Just because it contains an element doesn't mean it is an element.

"Obito claimed you needed hashirama cells to use izanagi when you don't." Well that was more of a retcon. Characters in stories are misinformed all of the time like how when characters were confused when Hashirama was really more powerful than Hiruzen. The same applies. Also Madara has no previous knowledge that the Infinite Tsukouyomi turns people into White Zetsu, both Madara and Obito were misinformed, not lying. Also just because the character lied in the story doesn't make what he says false, there's a thing called context, Sakura lied to Naruto about loving him (even though Naruto knew she was lying) that doesn't mean that Sakura is an incredible source on anything she says.

"And I already showed why that logic doesn't work. It's innocent till proven guilty. All those examples used were obvious retcons. There is no evidence of the yata mirror being retconned so you can't compare to it cases where there is evidence of a retcon." Well you only refer to how it wasn't retconnned and how characters are wrong. In reference to the lack the lack of a retcon the information about Itachi was not updated and was made for the specific time when Itachi was still alive in the manga. Kishimoto is an author who has a tendency to forget things and then make up other things on the fly, he's a good author but it's true. The problem is you're making the claim that it is strong enough to block an attack and the response to that is the evidence you are providing isn't strong enough to prove your claim. Plot device also has no part here, the senjustsu Kurama clad Susanoo sword was strong enough to break the sword of Nunobokoo and that's final considering it did. Finally the other analogies made like the ultimate defense are actually similar to the claim about the Yata Mirror. The mirror is claimed that it is impenetrable, so is Gaara's ultimate defense. Gaara's defense was proven wrong and the only different is that the mirror hasn't been proven wrong yet. They are both claims and a trend in the Naruto universe is that claims will always be made false.