User talk:Seelentau

WSJ wiki
Are you free to do some editing on the Weekly Shonen Jump Wiki? http://weekly-shonen-jump.wikia.com/wiki/Weekly_Shonen_Jump_Wiki 17:18, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sakura Light Novel
Hi there

Upon reading the Sakura Hiden I noticed that sketch on the very first page, however I was pondering on what the writing says on the left hand side? ღ••ThunderSnidget••ღ 19:02, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't have the novel here, so I have no idea what it says^^ - Seelentau Talk 19:05, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Yo. I'm just wondering: I've noticed that you seem to use the "Remove this thread" feature when closing down discussions. Is there a reason why you remove the thread from view rather than just closing it? It's not like someone can remove the thread once it's closed and cannot attempt to restore it, and it's overall better to close threads rather than removing (unless it's just obvious spam), as closing threads keeps the thread visible but prevents people posting, which can be useful to showcase which threads are not ones that should be posted. TIA for your response. --Sajuuk 20:57, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * I remove them because they're low effort threads and I don't want the forums to be cluttered with them. We should finally put up a message telling people to put some effort in their threads, along with the template for the VS threads... but I have literally no clue how to do that. - Seelentau Talk 21:18, September 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that they're low effort, though I don't think removing them is a solution. People will just think there was a glitch and will just repost the message later, so keeping them visible (but closed so nobody can post) may be more educational to other users, along with a post in the thread explaining how they can improve it. (Just my opinion though).
 * An announcement thread that is highlighted may be the way to try and educate users as well on how to improve their posts on the forums. Low-quality spam threads, such as this forum game, should ideally be disallowed (they're just a magnet for post farming and don't help matters, back when i was a forum op, those kind of things were banned because they were pointless and didn't improve the forums at all).
 * As for adding the template, that's simple to add, but if you aren't confident with JS, I would not recommend editing the JS files as "Fandom" Staff (as Wikia likes to call themselves now) will not proof-read. You can try asking WindStar7125 or UltimateSupreme to add the code to the needed ForumChanges.js page, but given that we're going to lose Special:forum to /d at some point (we may be quite late on in the migration), it seems like it's going to be wasted effort trying to make people format their posts properly.
 * On a separate thing: I noticed that for a while now, you've just been posting your responses to your own talkpage. Unless you post to the asker's talkpage (either with a notice just saying "check my talkpage for the response" or just by posting the response on the asker's talkpage), your responses are likely to get missed as there is no notification for posting to your own talkpage (unless the user is following your talkpage, which would mean users would be notified for every single edit that isn't directed to them). It's actually common practice on the wiki to respond at the asker's talkpage (and you used to do that until fairly recently) so people can see the response, but if there's a reason for changing, then I'll respect that. :) --Sajuuk 21:26, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re: 6 ripples where?
Saru brought up the point that when the Rinnegan is fully shown, it had 6 ripples (though it varied from time to time as the whole eyeball isn't always visible...). Like with Pain's or Momoshiki's. The previous svg images only had 3 ripples. To my knowledge, the amount of ripples increased over time as the eye itself was seen more (for instance, in the first page of chapter 659, 5 ripples where shown on Madara without the entire eyeball being shown, but there's clearly 6 on Momoshiki's, where more of the eyeball is visible in his palms). 00:50, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * In case you think it's an animation error, Kishi drew this. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 01:00, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * I only cound 5 in all those pictures... or did you count the iris as a ripple as well? - Seelentau Talk 11:51, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * More like BULLSHIT -powered by Wikia-. And oi! Just noticed you got your signature back! (What happened to it in the first place?) And I counted them like this... 21:00, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Why would you count the iris as a ripple? • Seelentau 愛 議 21:02, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Why wouldn't I? Even so, the image here still depicts "one iris and 5 ripples" if you count them anyway just like the movie poster so... 21:17, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * And on the svg it's the iris and six ripples. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:40, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Are you counting the outer shape of the svg as a ripple or something? Because I'm counting one iris and 5 ripples between the thicker outer line of the image and the pupil. 22:43, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Of course I'm counting it as a ripple. What else would it be? An eyeball has no border, the ripples go around the whole eye, as opposed to the Sharingan, which just covers the iris. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:49, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks exactly the like the eye from the movie poster to me. There is still some of the eyeball left after the 5th ripple (i.e. where the blue square is in both images). So I included that part of the eyeball, and the put the outer line outside of it, which isn't intended to be a "ripple". It's literally an outer line, just like on the Sharingan and Byakugan images, which have thick black outer lines. Or would you prefer if the outer line were removed from the Rinnegan svg (which is again, not intended to be a ripple)? 23:08, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, because unlike the Sharingen, the Rinnegan covers the whole eye, and because there is no other pupil on the other side (obviously), it logically ends with a ripple (unlike the Sharingan, which only covers the iris). • Seelentau 愛 議 23:13, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * So like this? The outer line is removed here. 23:21, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it's hard to display as a circle because the eyeball is a ball, of course. So it's pretty much like the map of the earth (for example). But it's basically pupil -> iris ripple -> first ripple -> second ripple -> middle ripple (orthodrome) -> second ripple -> first ripple. So five ripples and the iris (which should be slightly darker, by the way) with the pupil. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:30, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * So basically, you'd have preferred this? 23:39, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, why? It only shows half of the Rinnegan. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:42, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

So what exactly was wrong with this? It has one "ripple/black outer line" less than before. It has the iris and then the 5 black ripples. 23:45, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah eyes, you're right. See, that's what I meant when I was saying that it's difficult to display a round object as a flat object.^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 23:48, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. So the image in that last link I posted was correct (where the outer line was removed), I should do the same with the others and darken the iris, and we're good? 23:54, October 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:08, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Great! :D Will get to those soon. Question though: I've seen the purple Rinnegan with a darkened iris, but I don't recall Momoshiki's having that as well (but it's been a while since I saw the Boruto movie). Should the iris for Momoshiki's be darkened too? 00:12, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:14, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904041913/messaging/images/1/1c/Emoticon_yes.png 00:16, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

What do you think? 01:11, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * (y) • Seelentau 愛 議 12:04, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Rinne Sharengan as well, btw. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:11, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I knew editing the Rinne Sharingan's article would elicit a request.^^ This good? 19:30, October 8, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm quite curious though... if the Rinnegan and Rinne Sharingan svg images were wrong for all these years, why did you not say anything about it after all this time? 17:47, October 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Because whenever I want to change something on this wiki, there's a certain someone who throws such a hissy fit that I lose the interest in completing the change. Also, I have to ask the community for their consensus for apparently everything and I really don't want that.
 * Or maybe I just never thought about the images being wrong, who knows. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:51, October 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hahahahaha lol, I understand and totally can relate to that.^^ More than you know.^^
 * Ah, I see. Well, they're correct now at least. :D Any other dōjutsu that's wrong tho? 17:59, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

err, my bad, I didn't know that the darker iris was an anime-only thing. Pls correct that :x • Seelentau 愛 議 22:40, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110904041913/messaging/images/1/1c/Emoticon_yes.png 22:55, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

Sasuke's new jutsu
The few places I've seen listing his new jutsu have written it as 火雷. It seems this is a thunder Kami, and as such, I intend to rename the article, per other Kami-derived names. Any interesting information to list in an influence section? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:43, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * eh, not much. It's one of the eight gods of thunder that were born from Izanami's body in the underworld, with this one being born from her chest. - Seelentau Talk 17:59, September 30, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Indentation
You're upset i indented a comment of yours. Meh. We aren't wikipedia. If anything, we aren't wikia anymore either. I've discussed it plenty of times with other users and there is no specific time when the indenting should stop, and restart. You literally did nothing but move it by one. Why didn't you do that the first time you edited that talk page instead of "fixing" it after i had "done" so? Munchvtec (talk) 16:58, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Apologies for where this message is placed. I keep trying to fix it but my internet keeps failing. Munchvtec (talk) 17:06, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm also well aware of how it works on Wiki. Like i have said, i've discussed it with users and sysops here alike. We aren't wikia and we have no true indentation rules here. We've never been told to practice the way they do it here. I don't understand why you would change your talk page edit to be different than what you told me was "correct". Munchvtec (talk) 17:14, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * I read it over again. I see nothing i don't do besides Outdenting when a topic has a different question but overall, remains the same. We don't practice that here. I've never seen it mentioned or used albeit very rarely. Outdenting, even in your link, is naturally a random occurence. If it looks too long, outdent it. I don't feel as though i need to discuss this further Munchvtec (talk) 17:37, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Been watching this from side-lines and Munchvtec's edit is actually correct. An outdent is only added when there are too many outdents, as it actually looks messy when new questions are just outdented in a topic. --Sajuuk 17:40, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not, see Point 4 on wikipedia's page: "If you want to introduce a new topic that is still closely related to the one already under discussion, you should add it at the very bottom of the section, below all the previous comments on the original topic, without indenting it at all." - Seelentau Talk 17:47, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Like i said, we have never done that here. Just you it seems. The discussion was getting too long. I outdented. Applying your flawed logic, outdenting could essentially last to the point where there's only a single word per line. No. We fix it before it gets out of hand. Munchvtec (talk) 17:49, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is not Wikipedia, any guidelines from there do not automatically apply on this wiki unless there is a consensus to enshrine such guidelines into this wiki's policies. If you want to enforce Wikipedia's non-existent guidelines on indentation here, then you make a consensus and get the communities opinion, rather than arbitrarily quoting guidelines and enforcing them. I don't recall such a huge fuss ever being made over indentation before.
 * It also seems like you didn't read the very first thing on the page you keep linking to: "This page is an essay, containing the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints." So again: it's just informative, not a rule that must be followed. --Sajuuk 17:50, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, if you'd like to think it's for edit farming. By all means. Feel free. I have discussed it countless times with so many people here. I DO IT to make them look a little better then they were before. I've fixed plenty of trashed ones. Munchvtec (talk) 17:59, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * If it makes you feel any better though. It's so totally for edit farming. How does a few edits here and there count as edit farming? Munchvtec (talk) 18:00, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup, you're right, I'm going to add it to the policies here. And no, I'm not going to get the community's consensus/opinion. This wiki is still not a democracy. If you guys would just follow what I'm saying, there would be no fuss at all. But I know that's not your style, you'd rather just disagree with me for the sake of it. But that's nothing new, see above. - Seelentau Talk 18:06, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Good luck adding policies nobody has agreed upon. This is not your wiki, wiki's are run by the community and they are democracies where consensus and discussion work. Additionally, nobody is required to listen to anything you say, so if you think people should just bow down and treat you like a king, then you'll just drive members away. --Sajuuk 18:16, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * I am following the flow of what everyone does. My biggest issue is that users like you and snapper try to push Wikipedia policies on us. You know damn well we aren't wikipedia. Talk pages look better because of what i do. Do they look perfect? No, but they don't need to get any more complicated. What does making things complicated do to help us? Munchvtec (talk) 18:21, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you always exaggerate everything I say? And why are you the sole user who's constantly complaining about and disagreeing with every little thing I do? If I drive people away by how I act and you're the only one who's complaining about it, then why, consequently, didn't I drive you away already? And why have I never heard of anyone leaving the wiki because of me? And where are all the other complaints about me? - Seelentau Talk 18:23, October 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure why you are trying to make my posts more prominent by moving them out of chronological order. Posts should be in chronological order, like every other talkpage here.
 * I cannot be bothered arguing with you, because you clearly don't listen to any other user and you clearly just think your word is the authority here, when it isn't. Stepping out to avoid wasting my time for no reason with someone who doesn't listen to others. --Sajuuk 18:32, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

It would be complicated. Different time frames thrown everywhere, new users and even distinguished ones won't learn it right away. The way me and other users do it, it looks fine. It's in one spot. It's consistent and you don't have to look between sub-sections and such. People will know who i'm talking to because i will make it known who i'm speaking to. Users have no issue with that. Edit: As sajuuk said as well, they should all be in chronological order. @Sajuuk: you made the talk page difficult for readers to understand since we were commenting after Seel messed it up. Munchvtec (talk) 18:35, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

Translation request
Please can you handle to translate those lines for me, senpai?

「世界を救って英雄となったナルトが歩む道とは？そして、忍世界の行く末は．．．. 」

「里の者たちに忌み嫌われ一人で修行していたナルトの前に、とある人物が現れる. 」

Thanks so much... — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 09:57, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * "What way did Naruto, who became a hero that saved the world, walk? And the fate of the ninja world is...."
 * "In front of the training Naruto, who was loathed by the villagers, a certain person appears." - Seelentau Talk 12:25, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

my userpage
Why was my userpage deleted? Best Regards, SuperJosh635 (talk) 23:05, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Metre versus meter
Hi there. I'm a little confused about your correction from "meter" to "metre." I've never seen that unit of measurement spelt that way. Is it a UK thing or something?? Souleaterevans626 (talk) 20:53, October 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup, we use UK English. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:03, October 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you for informing me. I'll keep that in mind next time I edit Souleaterevans626 (talk) 21:06, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

Translating Help
Greetings! ( ^-^)/ Um, I understand that you are the resident translator here so I was wondering, if it's not too much trouble, if you could translate this sentence for me, please. "うちは一族が操る火遁の中でも群を抜いた威力を誇り、この術を前に退路はい. "--GunmetalDragon (talk) 14:30, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * eh, where's that from? • Seelentau 愛 議 18:32, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, um, It's from the Fire Release: Great Fire Annihilation databook entry. It's part of a paragraph under one of the pictures.--GunmetalDragon (talk) 19:26, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. It just says that it surpasses any other Uchiha Katonjutsu and anyone who stands in its way is lost. Or so. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:20, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Cry
Hello Seelentau, in Episode 479 in Naruto Shippuden you saw the final scene and you always cry by having Ending 38 Naruto Shippuden. Alexribeiro.soares.7 (talk) 14:00, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Timeline
The Last officially takes place 2 years after Sasuke leaves Konoha in 18anb, meaning the Last takes place in 20anb, as Gaara is 20 in Gaara Hiden which takes place after Naruto's wedding which takes place March-late May right? So the Last should take place in early January?? QuakingStar (talk) 20:16, October 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * The Last takes place two years after the war. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:21, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_calendar#Seasons this should help with the timeline too. QuakingStar (talk) 20:49, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Check this out Seelentau and tell me what you think here..

The 4th Shinobi World War ends 17anb - October 11th.

Sasuke Returns to Konoha in 19anb July 5th - July 13th, Sarada is conceived. *Non jinchuriki pregnancies last 9 months normally 6-7 months if premies*

The Last takes place in 19anb - October 11th at the earliest.

Naruto and Hinata Wed. 20anb March 20th - March 28th at the earliest, Boruto is conceived. *Same explanation as Sarada's*

Sarada is born 20anb - March 31st.

Boruto is born 20anb - December 15th at the earliest.

Himawari is born 22anb. *Himawari is not a Kunoichi in Boruto the Movie meaning at the most she is from the class below Inojin and etc.*

Naruto becomes Hokage 24anb, a Kage Summit takes place, Sasuke leaves Konoha to search for clues on what threatened Kaguya. *Sarada faintly remembers her father from before he left and could walk and talk fluently, at minimum a child of 2yrs as shown with Sasuke himself could do this*

1st January to 31st December 29 aNb About this year
 * Naruto Gaiden: The Road Illuminated by the Full Moon takes place.

At the earliest 11th October
 * Chapter 700 takes place.
 * A Gokage Kaidan is held in Konohagakure.
 * Naruto Uzumaki (29), Gaara (29), Darui (38), Kurotsuchi (30) and Chōjūrō (31) attend.
 * A Former-Gokage Kaidan is held in Iwagakure.
 * Tsunade (67), A (59), Ōnoki (91), and Mei Terumī (43) attend.
 * Konoha Shinden takes place.

Naruto Gaiden takes place 32anb - March 30th at the latest. *Sarada is 11 here* *This takes place 15 years after the 4th War. Sarada all the way to Boruto are all 12 here*

Boruto Movie takes place 33anb - March 30th at the latest. *Sarada all the way to Boruto are all 12 here* QuakingStar (talk) 17:28, October 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think I fixed it.. I used this for conception dates.

http://www.whenwasiconceived.com/ let me know what you think please QuakingStar (talk) 17:28, October 17, 2016 (UTC)

naruto timeline
In the naruto time line here,naruto getting married to hinata,boruto and Himawari being born all are happening 5 months from the last naruto movie. o.o am i missing something here? Even if they were both a year old when naruto became hokage(which was again said to have happen in the same year) wouldn't it still contradict the scenes involving both the kids from 'The Day Naruto Became Hokage' manga chapter ?--Minatoblitz (talk) 05:27, October 22, 2016 (UTC) --Minatoblitz (talk) 05:17, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Hashirama stuff
Hello Seel, I know you are busy and that you don't translate much anymore, but I hope you can help with this and that it's not too big of a request. Can you please word by word translate what Hashirama says to Sasuke when he gives him something to stop Madara? To my knowledge it was jutsu/chakra to do something about Madara's Senjutsu chakra? But nothing ever came of it. Can you also translate what Kabuto says while healing Sasuke? There's still the debate if Kabuto gave him Hashi cells or not, thank you.--Elve Talk Page 17:37, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * The translation of Hashirama's words on mangareader is correct. Madara has stolen Hashirama's senjutsu chakra and Hashirama wants to give Sasuke a jutsu to bind him in response to that senjutsu chakra. He also transfers his remaining chakra to Sasuke.
 * Kabuto's words are pretty much correct as well. With his medical ninjutsu, Hashirama's cells (that he studied) and Tobirama's advice, he was able to save Sasuke. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:17, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * So Hashirama gave Sasuke both his chakra and some jutsu related to the Hash Senjutsu chakra that Madara stole. So this plot point went pretty much ignored, right?
 * Does the Kabuto dialogue in your opinion state that Sasuke got pumped with Hashirama's cells or not?--Elve Talk Page 01:39, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * It could be that his chakra and the jutsu are the same thing, or he gave the jutsu by giving his chakra. But yes, that was ignored.
 * Yes, it does. Especially since Tobirama was there as well. Otherwise, why mention the cells in the first place? • Seelentau 愛 議 12:42, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, currently Sasuke having Hashirama's cells and/or chakra is mentioned nowhere in his abilities.--Elve Talk Page 23:46, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Because he never displayed anything like it, so it's still debatable. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:47, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Well we know that not displaying something =/= not having something/being unable to do something. Kabuto didn't show Water Release until 4th Shinobi World War for example. Or Kakashi hasn't displayed over a 1000 of techniques, but we know he can since it was stated.--Elve Talk Page 00:12, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

New Combination Ultimate
There's a new scan of UNS4RTB, there's a new Naruto and Sasuke ultimate, and there's a portion of it I can't quite translate. The Japanese name is 疾風迅雷 威装之一太刀. The second part, after the 威装, I have no idea how to translate, with the 之. Nohitotachi? Until there's actual footage, I'm also not sure if the first part should be translated as the idiom, or as it was done with Hurricane Thunderclap. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:27, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * . • Seelentau 愛 議 11:25, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

issues
That issue has been brought to your attention before. You don't care, so don't act like any possible discussion would be fruitful. (also, i have no reason to discuss a 200 day old issue, haha.) On another note, the link is helpful. Is letting them know that the discussion will likely go nowhere because you're the one arguing against it so bad? Munchvtec (talk) 23:16, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Eh, I was the one who started the thread, why would I not care? The replies were mostly pro keeping it as with Blaze Release, so that's what we did. Elve himself was active in the thread, so I have no idea why he brings it up again, anyway. But since there are no new information on what Typhoon Release is, I don't think anything will change. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:22, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * I meant that you wouldn't care about my old issue :p Anyways, i also have no clue why it was brought up again. Maybe he forgot. Changing the topic: Do you also see the cite ref error at the bottom of your talk page? :/Munchvtec (talk) 23:28, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Talkpages are used to discuss potential changes to the articles. Is that wrong? Munchvtec (talk) 00:26, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, but that's not what you asked. You wanted an explanation for something you personally didn't understand (just like the guy on Shinki's talk page) and that's not why talk pages exist. Also, please don't reply to my revert with another revert. If you don't agree with my revert, tell me here. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:28, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * I wanted to know if they are hired or owned. How is that a personal question o_O Discussing the change of a few words in a few articles doesn't belong in a forum. Munchvtec (talk) 00:31, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * By personal question I meant that it's something regarding the character himself, not something regarding the article about him. Plus, the change of a few words doesn't need to be discussed, just change it according to the anime. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:38, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Nagato/Rinnegan translation
On chapter 428 page 10, what do the Anbu say about Nagato's chakra and the Rinnegan exactly?? QuakingStar (talk) 10:00, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * No idea, I currently can't access the raws on my external hard drive. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:28, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Mhm.. that sucks. Would you want me to upload the colored raw page that I have and put a link here? QuakingStar (talk) 21:13, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, just cut out the unnecessary part of the page. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:14, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Here it is

http://imgur.com/4HwZC7O

QuakingStar (talk) 21:33, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * eeh. "What a chakra..." and "So this is the Rinnegan's power, huh...! It's different from everything before... I got a bad feeling...". • Seelentau 愛 議 21:53, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Seel. So it seems they are talking about the power of his chakra and not volume.. QuakingStar (talk) 22:07, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Volume 2 profiles
From your recent message to TU3, you already came across with Chocho's, but in case you haven't seen the others, here's the batch. Anything weird we don't know about? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:11, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, no. I haven't been keeping up with Naruto at all, being busy with work most of the time^^ I'll see what they say and post it here. :) • Seelentau 愛 議 23:15, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Platypuse@NF translated the ICS trio here. It's mostly correct. Chocho's Raiton: Jinraiken (迅雷拳) means "Lightning Release: Thunderclap Fist".
 * Shinki manipulates sand and iron sand. His birthday is unpublished, he likes to eat gizzard and braised stew, he dislikes nattō. His hobbies are gardening and embroidery.
 * Yodo is born on 1st December. She likes to eat macaroons and dislikes raw fish. Her hobbies are appreciating music and audio.
 * Araya is born on 13th March. He likes marshmallows and gummi candy and dislikes donuts. His hoobies are miniature games and modelling.
 * And no, it doesn't state anywhere if Gaara and Kankuro are the respective fathers or whatever. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:50, November 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Some more comments on Platypus' translation:
 * 情報工作 means something like "information handling", but 工作 can also be used in the context of espionage.
 * 話術 is indeed the "art of talking". I think it's also called "rhetoric" or "oratory" in English?
 * 現代 means "modern", yup.
 * 精神抵抗 means "mental resistance" and 耐性 refers to the "resistance to antibiotics, drugs and other things"
 * 蝶化 is "Butterfly Transformation" or more literally "Butterfly-ification". No idea what that's supposed to be.
 * Furthermore, the sun seal was removed from Naruto's hand in the volume. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:13, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * So, Shinki Can uses the Sand as Gaara...Sharingan91 (talk) 05:50, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Chōchō
No I have not. But it's Chocho so I am very pleased.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:53, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

re: TP usage?
Hi, thanks for your comments. I'm afraid that I would have to disagree that people are going into articles with the mindset to, in your words, "add bullshit". As you know, this wiki is one of the most well-known wiki's within the fandom of Naruto, so it is to be expected that many users come here to expand on Naruto related information. However, the point I disagree with is that users come here willingly to vandalise: this is not the case and to have a mindset that any new user is a vandal is a dangerous precedent. (A small percentage of users do indeed have the mindset to come here to be intentionally disruptive, but the proportion of users who do that is actually very small).

A lot of users who come here have no idea about any of the wiki's policies and they're only made aware of them when the WikiaBot posts on their talkpage after they've actually edited. A lot of users also have the mindset that they're genuinely helping, and who can blame them? We're repeatedly "marketed" (I don't mean that in the literal sense btw) as being the top Naruto wiki, so as a result, many people come here believing that this is the hub of all the Naruto fandom, where they can add fanon, pairings and such to page articles. It's only after users revert their edits or they are blocked that they become aware of the wiki's actual purpose.

I can attest to this: when I first joined this wiki, I had no idea about any of the wiki's policies and simply made a few edits to articles, without having any idea about any other part of the wiki (feel free to look at my Special:Contributions page to see), only to have them reverted by a more experienced user, and it was only after this had happened that I was notified of the wiki's policies. After having been informed of the wiki's policies, I started to edit more appropriately, but I wasn't blocked for my bad edits, since I wasn't deliberately coming onto the wiki just to make bad edits.

When the wiki previously allowed anonymous contributions, even though a lot of anons did make bad edits, we still took the time to give the user a warning. I understand you think warnings are pointless, but I do not believe in such a mindset, and warnings can genuinely be useful. I know of users who have come onto wiki's on the platform, vandalised the wiki, been blocked (after likely receiving a warning and continuing to do it anyway) and yet have become a sysop/bureaucrat of said wiki. This is why it is imperative for all wiki sysops to assume good faith at all times, and never to assume bad faith in users, as many users who "vandalise" aren't doing so willingly, they're just trying to help the wiki and not doing it right at all.

It's for all of those reasons that I'm a strong advocate for informing users about why their edit was reverted or deemed to be a disruptive edit, than just not warning them at all, as people can be blocked for the reason of ignoring user requests, but that reason falls away if we're not leaving talkpage messages to users.

I hope this makes more sense. If you have further queries/comments, feel free to post them on my talkpage. :) --Sajuuk 09:30, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Userpage?
So I'm a little confused as to why you deleted my userpage. I read the criteria like you asked, and nothing has changed since I created it. I don't see what I'm doing now that's different from when I created it that somehow makes it worthy of deletion. You just deleted it without warning and the criteria for deletion doesn't explain it at all. I'd appreciate clarification. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 01:07, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3.1 in the policy: "Userpages are for editors to give information about themselves as editors on the wiki; ie: Past wiki editing experiences, what they do on the wiki, and preferred methods of contact. Personal userpages will be deleted: if you wish to talk about yourself as a person, use Facebook.". and 4.1: "Simply commenting on talkpages is not considered contribution, unless you're seriously contributing to discussions on how to improve articles." and from the notes: "Generally, the idea is try to actually contribute to the wiki for a while first, then after a while just add something short to detail who you are as an editor. A fair number of our best editors don't even have userpages, most of the userpages created here by new users just feature abuse.". I encourage you to contribute to the wiki and then create a user page based on that. :) • Seelentau 愛 議 01:15, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * On 3.1: I do give out information about myself on my userpage. The entire first paragraph is information about myself, along with mentions of my current wiki status in terms of how long I've been a member. My second section shows the wikis I contribute to. On 4.1: I've contributed both on talk pages and edits to actual pages. I contribute to discussions involving page deletions and major wiki changes (most recently the background change discussion). I contribute to pages on the wiki by editing grammar, phrasing, unnecessary links, and other changes. I've done almost 50 edits by now. As for the notes, I still do not see how that applies to me. My page is basically an overview of me as an editor, one that was apparently fine until just now? It just seems a little ridiculous that no one said a word to me about this; you just deleted it suddenly. You've been on my page before to talk to me and it hasn't changed much since then. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 01:35, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * You've made 50 edits in 8 months, with 8 edits on article pages. I appreciate that and I encourage you to continue contributing to the wiki, but unfortunately, that's not enough to warrant a user page. • Seelentau 愛 議 01:44, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well I won't fault you for following the policy, even if I don't enjoy it. It's a shame that people have to edit for over half a year and still don't have the right to let people know that they are a person that exists. Userpages shouldn't be about being Editor Extraordinaire, it should be about being a user who wants to express their existence. On all other wikis I've joined, policies have not refused me my userpage despite not doing nearly as much work as I do here. This wiki definitely should rethink censoring people just for being new. It's like the only people that have any control over expressing themselves are the higher-ups. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 02:03, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well then let me ask you: Why should you have a user page? Outside of voicing your opinion on various talk pages/forum discussions, you've made eight mostly smaller edits to the general wiki. Over the course of eight months. Why would anyone want to acquire the information (you provided on your user page) of a user who does one small edit per month? Of course I only enforce the rules, I didn't make them. But I understand where they're coming from and perhaps you can do so as well. As I said, we value every editor and you are more than welcome to continue editing, but if you don't edit (much), you don't need a user page. • Seelentau 愛 議 02:11, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Value every user? Yeah, right. Your implication that people wouldn't want to seek out things about me is the exact opposite of that. How about you hop off that high horse of yours? I doubt anyone wants to know anything about you either, but here you are with a userpage, going around deleting others' and then treating them like they're nothing. I have friends who use wikia/fandom that would love to know about me. How's that? Does that satisfy you? can I have a page now? No? Didn't think so, because you're the type of person who got power and is carried away now, talking as if you know me SO well when you know nothing about me because you deleted my userpage(!) You jsut added your own criteria to the deletion policy that I have to be popular to deserve to exist on here. How's that fair at all? Souleaterevans626 (talk) 02:26, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Seelentau did not write the rules. He is simply following them. I believe that policy is there because we try to be as professional as we can. (If you read what seel wrote, he gave other good reasons as well) Now do we all agree with the policy? No, not really. Though most of us would rather not make a big deal about it. If you'd like to make a thread suggesting some sort of change, feel free. Getting riled up about it and attacking a single user won't solve anything. Lots of us have had our User Pages deleted before. Munchvtec (talk) 02:39, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well considering that this went from a civil discussion about my userpage deletion and the exact criteria regarding that to a personal attack on me, I think I'm not the one you should be addressing with this. Seelentau's last reply says, and I quote, "Why would anyone want to acquire the information (you provided on your user page) of a user who does one small edit per month?" Deletion policy aside, the fact that I do or don't have people actively seeking out information about me SHOULD NOT be a condition of whether I deserve a userpage. Seelantau just decided that he feels it should be. Since when is popularity a condition of userpage deletion? The fact is that he's being incredibly rude and creating his own rules in addition to the ones I already addressed that are actually on the deletion policy's page. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 02:50, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Meh, even when I explain things in the most polite way I get shit for it. So listen up: First of all, I did not make any rule up, I just tried to explain the policy to you. It has nothing to do with me being carried away or abusing my power. Second, someone who does one small edit in a month does not need a user page. This is a wiki, not a forum. If you're not actively contributing to the wiki, you don't require a user page. And last but not least, feel free to create a forum thread about this topic if you feel that the policy needs to be changed. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:40, December 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Polite? Don't flatter yourself. You made up the rule that getting a userpage requires me to win your silly popularity contest by having people "want to acquire [my] information," which definitely is not in the criteria for having or deleting a userpage. That's something you came up wiht on your own, you didn't explain anything to me, you just came up with reasons to delete me because you're prejudiced against smaller editors. THAT'S what an abuse of power is. Looking at Munch's userpage, it follows the rules even less than mine and they get to keep it because they're not a smaller editor. The criteria you claim I violated is even worse on their userpage. It's less informational than mine was, and it's just a spamming of links. Not to mention that mine was fine for months until just now. You just suddenly changed your mind on what doesn't follow the rules, picked me out of the many user on here that violate way more than I do, and decided to just delete everything No warning, no asking me to change something, just straight up deletion. You tell me to read the rules, I do, and now you're grasping at straws because I'm not dumb enough to simply submit to your BS. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 04:11, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, because of all the people on here, I hate you the most. That's why I deleted your user page. Definitely not because you're not an active editor who doesn't need a userpage. Listen, I don't care what you think about me, if you have a problem with the rules I enforce, go ahead and create a forum thread about it. As long as the rules aren't changed, I will continue to delete all user pages that violate them, whenever I stumble upon them - as I did with yours. • Seelentau 愛 議 04:17, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * @soul, i commented here trying to help you out and now you're being rude trying to use my profile page to justify yours? Nothing wrong with mine, is there seel? If so, i will gladly fix it, no problem. So silly. Munchvtec (talk) 04:27, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * @Seelantau: Well this rich-get-richer way you enforce the rules is completely unfair. Nowhere on the rules for userpages does it say I need to be popular or have more than the edits I have. It says I need to contribute to the wiki, which I have. The whole reason this was put into place, according to the page itself, is because of non-contributors abusing the ability to make a userpage. I have not abused it in any way. I'm doing everything I'm supposed to here and you decided it's not enough. Just because you have the ability to spit on people less active than you doesn't mean you should. If you want to tell me you "value" me and that you're "polite," you wouldn't be shoving my userpage in the trash and refusing to see things the way us smaller people see them. The fact is that you were my trial and jury, and your reason for putting me on trial was completely wrong. I have no problems with the rules, only the way you "enforce" them. No one ever had an issue with my userpage until you. @Munch: you did absolutely nothing but side with seelantau. The fact is, since you found it necessary to agree with his terrible carrying-out of "enforcing" the rules, you're just as awful as he is. You really only reinforced MY opinion on things, that the higher-ups here don't always have the community's best in mind. Something tells me you two have just been around each other for too long, and even then you bicker with him yet still don't see my side of things. Souleaterevans626 (talk) 05:20, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't I ask you to create a forum thread about the policy? It's not going to change anything if you continue to whine here. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:52, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * What's the point when you're the one making up the rules? Nowhere on the wiki does it say that my amount of editing is not enough, or that I need to be popular to "need" a userpage. There's no reason to make a forum post if you're the only one involved in this. As I said, you played trial and jury with this and then bent the userpage policy to suit your BS claims. I never abused the userpage; never included anything there that wasn't in direct relation to myself as an editor or forms of contact; and not only have I made the 8 edits to pages that you bash me with repeatedly, I've also participated in several forum discussions regarding the wiki (which does count as credible according to the userpage policy YOU QUOTED). If you wanna call this whining, that's fine, it just shows how little intellect you have. I wouldn't be here this long if you weren't blinded by your entitlement, blissfully ignorant to how much you lie wen you say you value people and are being polite as you delete their userpage because you can Souleaterevans626 (talk) 11:35, December 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * The point is that you stop pestering me, because I'm not going to change anything. If you think I did you wrong, get help from another sysop or create a forum thread about what happened. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:13, December 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Of course not. Once blinded by power, always blinded by power. I'll start a forum post, and hopefully you won't use your power to c-block me or re-remove my userpage if I'm granted one. That's clearly a pipe dream though Souleaterevans626 (talk) 00:37, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Eight Gates Released Formation trivia
The trivia you added doesn't seem like a plot hole. Was it specifically stated anywhere that Duy actually created the EGRF? It's possible he just spent all those years trying to master a previously existing jutsu. And even if he did create it after Madara went into hiding, he had the White Zetsu acting as spies to know about the outside world, so it's possible he could have learned about it through them. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:22, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well he said so himself, didn't he? And why would WZ spy on a failure genin that was Duy? :x But I see where you're coming from, gonna remove it. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:27, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

Himmel hilf
Es sind Diskussionen wie diese die mich immer wieder daran erinnern, niemals Admin einer größeren Gemeinde sein zu wollen. Einfach aus Interesse: Was genau macht es die Sache für dich wert, weiterzumachen? Ich weiß, dass ich nach der dritten Diskussion dieser Art die Schnauze gestrichen voll hätte... Norleon (talk) 11:55, December 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Naja zum einen bin ich Sysop geworden, damit ein gewisser Jemand nicht Sysop werden konnte. Zum anderen ist es so einfach einfacher, hier zu arbeiten. Ich mein, klar sind solche Diskussionen anstrengend, aber die kommen ja auch nicht allzu häufig vor. Hab aber auch schon oft überlegt, wieder aufzuhören, einfach weil es nervt, ständig gesagt zu bekommen, ich würd meine Rechte missbrauchen und so weiter. Mal schauen, wie lange ich das noch mitmache.^^ 13:13, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Team Konohamaru
This video doesn't have the best quality, but in the character selection screen, you can see the names of the jutsu and ultimate jutsu for Boruto, Sarada, and Mitsuki. Is it crisp enough to get the names? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:43, December 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * I can read the Kanji and translate them, but I can't read all Furigana.
 * Mitsuki: and
 * Boruto: and
 * Sarada: and
 * • Seelentau 愛 議 12:00, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Jap Name DTG
Please, can you check the Japanese name is correct? Dark Thunder Group 暗雷団 (あんらいだん, Anraidan), So we can add in page. --Sharingan91 (talk) 09:59, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

Gaara's words in chapter 560
Hi Tau, just a quick question. Could you please tell me what Gaara says in the Japanese versions of chapter 560 when he is talking about using Sand at Madara's feet (along with your translation)? D.Phoenix (talk) 22:22, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Moar RTB jutsu
For some reason, all gameplay they're releasing for Road to Boruto is potato quality. Could you check this and see if my translations are accurate? From 3:55 to 4:24, we get three names. Sasuke's jutsu is easy, it's. Kinshiki's jutsu appears to be. Sasuke's ultimate has a tricky spot, it's. I can't quite figure out the last kanji, either 堕 or 墜. I could also barely read the furigana, so that might be wrong as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:40, December 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't figure out the last kanji myself, but the ones you provided aren't read as otoshi. I think we'll just have to wait for a better version for this one. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:01, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Deleted pictures
Uh, any reason you deleted the pictures I uploaded?--Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 00:59, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

little help
Would you happen to recall where a Yutaka Fūmi and a Kusaha Midori were mentioned? Munchvtec (talk) 02:41, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * No clue, never heard of them. Probably some filler/novel characters? • Seelentau 愛 議 02:42, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * No clue myself. I have the names written down and wondered why. Did a search here and found a talkpage for one of the two but nothing in it that helps. Munchvtec (talk) 02:44, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Check episode 145 of the original anime for them, they appeared there. • Seelentau 愛 議 02:47, January 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. Munchvtec (talk) 02:49, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

I noticed your addition to the timeline
But I noticed one thing that we didn't think about. Only Kakashi, Kabuto, and Itachi were said to make it out of the academy in one year. So Shisui should be 7 when he becomes a Genin don't you think? QuakingStar (talk) 18:54, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Where was that stated? • Seelentau 愛 議 18:57, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

It was only stated for Kakashi and Itachi calling them true genius's and prodigies etc. I think it would be completely speculative to believe anybody else has done so otherwise the other people would of been mentioned too right?? QuakingStar (talk) 19:00, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * I only go by what's said in the franchise and what can be calculated from that. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:03, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

If we also consider that Shisui was Jonin when Itachi was 8 and that only Kakashi has been called the youngest Jonin by Danzo and I think Hiruzen, then Shisui was either 12 or 13 when he was a Jonin.. does that sound plausible?? QuakingStar (talk) 19:06, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * If you can provide sources for those statements, I can add it. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:09, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

I will go hunting then. I'll be back when and if I find those(I def remember those statements though) QuakingStar (talk) 19:10, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

I can't find it, though I do believe it was the anime only episodes depicting Kakashi and Obito's early life.. such as Kakashi's father dying, then him graduating the academy, it shows him showing off his chunin vest to Obito, then later it shows him meeting up with Hiruzen, Minato, and Danzo the the other 2 old farts and Danzo remarks that he would be the youngest Jonin ever if he was promoted to one or something.. maybe I'm imagining things idk. QuakingStar (talk) 19:32, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi Seelentau,

If/when you have the time, could translate Gaara and Kurama's conversation in chapter 663 page 4? Just the latter bit where they speak about Minato's use of the Shunshin (FTG) jutsu. --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 23:45, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not replying so long. I'm not really translating stuff anymore, as long as it's not for an article here. Besides, I don't have access to my raws until April. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:09, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hidan's status
As resident translator, can you step into this conversation? A user believes his opinion that Hidan is dead is a stated fact, when there's no such statement anywhere, to my knowledge, that he is dead. --Sajuuk 17:31, February 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hidan's talkpage peoples. Me, you and Seelentau were present in that conversation. Munchvtec (talk) 17:32, February 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * eeeh, Hidan is alive, why would that change? We don't know the period he needs to go without killing for the immortality to wear off. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:09, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

translation request
Not Naruto related but i was hoping you could help me out. Could you for me? No problem if not. Munchvtec (talk) 05:10, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * See above, I don't really translate stuff anymore. Don't have the time, especially not for random things. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:09, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. Munchvtec (talk) 01:55, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

Feedback, thanks
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:224171 --Elve Talk Page 07:56, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * There's a reason I never reacted to this and you should know it by now: The Naruto manga left so many vital things unexplained that there's no way to say things like this with 100% certainty. As long as it's not a case like Magnet Release's natures, there's nothing we can do. And I don't really care anymore, I've mostly moved on from Naruto. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:09, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm mistaken, SPS is stated to be responsible for TSB, no other means of getting them were provided, that's the rationale, good enough to me. Also if you don't care anymore, then you won't revert if edits are being made, otherwise you would prove that you actually do care.--Elve Talk Page 21:26, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Again: I'm not going to discuss this. Also, how can I revert edits on a manga? • Seelentau 愛 議 21:30, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Vanishing Rasengan
I'm sure you've seen the raw by now, but the answer is yes, the name is enclosed hook brackets. FF-Suzaku (talk) 23:49, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Quick translation help?
http://kiyoitsukikage.tumblr.com/post/143994280359/that-anon-who-asked-me-nagatos-entry that image on the right says Nagato awakened the Rinnegan when his parents were killed, that would mean that Madara transplanted the eyes in their normal state and not in their Rinnegan state. What is your translation of that?? QuakingStar (talk) 22:14, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * See above: I still don't have access to my raws. But this sentence is obviously not meant literally, since you can't turn off your Rinnegan after you've activated them. The "Rinnegan" Nagato awakened was their power. Not literally the eyes themselves. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:59, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Mhm I see, btw if you're still up for it I uploaded this.. Get a better translation from it?

http://imgur.com/6Vdl1ZN

If you want I can make some imgur albums with the databook raws and colored manga raws in them so you don't have to worry about not having access to them? QuakingStar (talk) 23:05, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * There's no better translation, there are only different translations. And I knew the wording before, because it's always the same. As I said, it's not meant to be taken literal. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:45, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

League of legends player?
Are u playing league of legends?
 * Yes, on EUW, but not as Seelentau. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:50, February 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Something happened when i put the comment as Unsigned and your comment got removed, Seeletau. Fixed now. Munchvtec (talk) 19:57, February 11, 2017 (UTC)