Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-27162446-20151208003121/@comment-26294229-20160113031253

UltimaDude wrote: @Madao4life I am countering your points.... Except they don't. If they have have never fought a Hyuga before, like in Sakura's case, then they are just as screwed as a Genin Naruto and a mindless Juubi clone I said that Sakura won't be able to stop or counter the 64 palms. No contradiction anywhere. And suggesting Hinata will fail to complete the 64 palms is just a silly as saying that Naruto still needs the aide of a clone to make a Rasengan Except that Sakura has only summoned Katsuyu once and it was to heal the Shinobi Alliance. So saying that Katsuyu will actually fight in Sakura's place is completely absurd Except that it's absolutely true that Hinata, like any other trained Hyuga, can kill someone because of the Gentle Fist. You haven't brought up evidence that suggest that Sakura can defeat Hinata, just that she has CES, Bakugo, and summoning which Hinata can prevent by using 64 palms on her. Hinata lasting more than a minute against Neji during the Chuunin exams, proves that she is a more skilled fighter than Sakura. She only has improved since then. All Sakura improved was her Chakra control and learned the CES/Bakugo, which doesn't equate to skill in Taijutsu Tell me when Sakura has fought against a trained Hyuga, then I will retract my statement of Sakura not being able to counter Hinata in CQC. If freaking Himawari was able to knock out an unsuspecting Naruto with a single jab to the abdomen, then Hinata could do the same, even worse, to an unsuspecting Sakura Such a hypocrite. You are bringing fallacious claims. Hinata and other trained Hyuga is the worst match-up for Sakura, since her strong suit is her CES and Bakugo which can easily be shut down. Bring actual evidence that say otherwise @Uchiahmasters Like I said above, if freaking Himawari can knock out Naruto with a single jab, then a trained Hyuga can easily one-shot an opponent who has never fought a Hyuga before. Like QuakingStar said, Hinata, and another trained Hyuga for that matter, is the worst match-up for Sakura sigh, you didn't counter anything. your bias for hinata lead you to believe that because she's a hyuga, she can do whatever a hyuga is supposed to do.

skilled neji =/= skilled hinata

hyuga hype =/= skilled hinata

neji's feats mean nothing. we are talking about hinata here.

the hype means nothing. let me give you a better example. hiashi said hyuga taijutsu is the best in konoha. jiraiya said tsunade's taijutsu is the best. however, we know both hype are false, because there is gai.

byakugan isn't sharingan. as sakura proved against kaguya. you can see it coming, but it's no use if you can't react in time.

please, read my previous posts instead of saying hyuga this and hyuga that. i already talked about how ninjas has the potential can kill other ninjas, like how toddler himawari caught naruto by suprise. however, in a death battle, do you think the toddler has any chance? in my previous post, did i not mentioned konohamaru can has the potential kill naruto with one well placed strike? and you think manga naruto will let it happen?

you finally mention one proof of hinata fighting, which is the fight where neji toyed with her, saying he was shutting down her chakra system right from the start, just to humiliate her.. that arc in the Chunin Exams goes out of its way to say that Hinata is untalented, even though kurenai has witness how hard hinata trained for fighting, and she proved herself not a skilled fighter, but a fighter with an indomitable spirit.

sakura, like the other konoha rookies, have been with the hyuga neji and hyuga hinata in konoha, and you think sakura don't know of their abilities, and will stupidly stand as a practice target for hinata? and how she wouldn't summon katsuyu even when she is at her disposal? sorry, you're the hypocrite here.

is my claim the stupid one even with manga proof, or is your claim the absurd one with no proof? hinata did falter while doing 64 palms, this is from manga.

when did sakura ever need to defeat enemies alone? she's always been surrounded by higher tiers ninja so of course she would assume the support position to heal people in manga. and somehow, you think that means katsuyu will forget she has the capability to do damage? manga proof: even without tsunade's instructions, katsuyu threatened orochimaru with a prepared acid spit when she saw orochimaru as a threat to her mistress.

sakura: ces, summon, regeneration, 3 years worth of chakra

hinata: close quarters hyuga style taijutsu

how can hinata win if she can't even get close to sakura? ces sakura created a huge crater where giant juubi clones flew up like little dust specks, and summoning katsuyu takes no more than 2 seconds, bite and slap palm on ground. your logic of 64 palms somehow negating all of that astounds me.

please re-read the manga and debate with a clear mind. it is quite tiring to debate someone without sound logic.