Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-4522253-20181001230600/@comment-4522253-20190103005213

WindStar7125 wrote: I'm admittedly a bit confused here as to what the desired behavior is, and want to make sure I have this right.

To confirm: SuperSajuuk wrote: Looking on that article linked earlier, I don't like that the Kanji/Romaji bar is above the image. This is especially the case, given that the text is so large compared to before (which makes it hard to read because there's too much large text too close to each other). I feel the infobox could be ever so slightly wider, but with smaller label text so it doesn't look so bad, imo.
 * ~movie in a jutsu's  should display in the jutsu's "Users" as (Movie only).
 * ~movie in a jutsu's  should not display in the user's "Jutsu".
 * ~movie canon in a jutsu's  should display in the jutsu's "Users" as (Movie only).
 * ~movie canon in a jutsu's  should display in the user's "Jutsu" without any special qualifier (such as (Movie only) ).

It feels out of place as if it was just shoved there due to having no other place to be put. Can that bar be moved below the image, so it goes like: PAGE TITLE IMAGE KANJI/ROMAJI (in translation template) As mentioned above, there are both semantic (they are equivalent titles in a different language (which happens to be the source language), and therefore should be equal in terms of placement and size) and UX (putting titles / names for the same thing should be clustered near each other) reasons for placing them together consistently. These are true titles, rather than key/value pairs. Because they describe the object, rather than the images (specifically) or subobjects, placing them at the topic makes more topological sense. The text for English and Japanese titles was previously below the size threshold for basic readability but is now at 14px (the same as paragraph text in the body of the article). Therefore, I would dispute that it is "too much large text too close to each other". Smaller label width would indeed cause words like "Classification" to be broken onto two lines, but a smaller font-size would also begin to present legibility problems (12px is the UX threshold, for both English and Japanese text).

As for the infobox size itself, our research shows that 270px is pretty optimal for desktop screens (and most wiki authors seem to agree as it's the most common, average , and most moderate size of infoboxes surveyed throughout the network). It's pretty well balanced on Fandom's default skin (which you really should try). Omnibender wrote: Something functional I've noticed. Before, when a manga/anime jutsu had derived jutsu in a lower canon, while it wasn't listed in the infobox, the infobox did contain a piped link reading "derived jutsu" to a query that listed the derived jutsu, like there is for jutsu and tools in character infoboxes at the moment, with those listing all the jutsu and tools used by the character regardless of medium. This was something that made game, movie, and novel jutsu easier to find. For example, Chidori True Spear is derived from Chidori Sharp Spear, but since there is no longer the link to the query, nothing in the CSS articles indicates the existence of CTS. The link still shows up and has that function for jutsu that do have manga and anime derived jutsu, like Rasengan and Chidori. I'm unclear what the difference is that you'd like to indicate between Chidori's and Chidori's
 * Chidori Current
 * Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana
 * Chidori Sharp Spear
 * Chidori True Spear

Which jutsu media should show a derivation, and which should not?