Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20181124221812

1) Or he created a clone and that clone used Flicker and got behind the enemy. Since that's a possibility, your theory isn't a fact. And that's all I need since the series has never stated Shadow Clones can appear wherever the user wants. So I accept your concession.

2) Did Itachi want to seal Nagato? Yes, but didn't open with Totsuka. Therefore debunked. Was there a difference between Orochimaru and Nagato? Yes, Itachi was on the verge of death. Therefore, verge of death was the deciding factor. I notice if series triumphs what you have to say and you have nothing, you always claim plot. And oh please. Clear biased argument. "Plot for only me but no one gets to use it." Smh. Go ahead and scream plot all you want, it's an invalid argument especially since you're in the mindset "I get to say plot but if anyone else does, it's wrong". Therefore, I accept your concession due to lack of a valid argument. People who claim plot just don't have an argument. I already explained why Nagato wasn't opened with Totsuka and why Orochimaru was. Plot argument can only be used if there is no other possible scenario. I gave one, Itachi on the verge of death had no choice and even then it is not counted as an opener. To be an opener it has to be at the start of a battle. If someone joins a battle late, then the battle is still late, it just doesn't reset and become a new battle. Itachi and Sasuke are still drained. Fight, N, take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons. Itachi even attributed Orochimaru joining the fight, asking Sasuke if he had anything else therefore proving the fight had not ended between them. Therefore, it isn't an opener. Also, why wouldn't Itachi want to kill Orochimaru the first time? Orochimaru betrayed the Akatsuki by attacking Itachi and was force to flee them after that attack. Each time Itachi has used it, he has used it in the late fight. So debunked.

3) So "Even though Kakashi has no speed feats that makes it faster cause his foot speed is faster." Lmao. I accept your concession due to horrid logic and lack of (or more precise no) feats or statements. I have a speed for the Bones. You don't have a speed for Kakashi's underground. Therefore, feat > your theory.