Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26636534-20190113224028

@FlatZone

Why resort to underhanded tactics?

@Combat

I accept your apology. Yet, I still feel there is a lot of unfair tactics being used. This makes it difficult to converse with you.

Check again my post, I compare Kabuto's usage of Nirvana on multiple people and Itachi's usage of Ephemeral on rookie Naruto. The latter is seen as so impressive and a prime example of why Itachi is great with genjutsu, yet the former is not even mentioned as being impressive. There is clear discrepancy there, which is why I highlighted it.

Now you go and say I'm comparing Nirvana to Itachi's entire arsenal of genjutsu, which is so false. Also, you are making many assumptions with Itachi's genjutsu that have yet to be proven, as @James has said. One example, how do you know that Ephemeral would be stronger with more chakra? Also, give proof, not statements from characters that don't know the inner workings of Itachi's jutsu.

FYI, there are jutsu that don't become stronger with simply more chakra, e.g. shadow clone.

Secondly, how is what I said wrong or an assumption about a target needing to deal with an invading genjutsu by resetting their chakra? That's the basis of genjutsu to disturb an opponent's chakra, and for the target to reset their chakra to end the genjutsu.

Now how do you go from that to, "your logic states Itachi would capture everyone due to Itachi's superior chakra control"??? Like, wtf man? I clearly said control is more important than amount for chakra used for genjutsu. Cited example of this with Obito. But there is more to it for Uchiha obviously, due to added control from the sharingan.

Yet control isn't even the right word. The user of genjutsu adds their chakra to their opponent's chakra network and creates a disturbance like a parasite. This parasite chakra continues the disturbance which holds up the genjutsu. What do I base this on? The explanation for genjutsu given in the manga and Karin's analysis on whether she or Sasuke were under a genjutsu.

Lol, Don't think I explained it well, yet I hope you can understand me a bit better.

So Naruto was trying to reset his chakra, by overpowering it with his own chakra (he should have tried to disturb his own chakra). And obviously that's what happened in that instance, yet why is Naruto not being able to immediately reset his chakra such a big deal? And why is Itachi lauded for doing it?

My point being, that Naruto is not a good measure of strength for genjutsu. A better measure would have been if Itachi used it on Kakashi and Kakashi was to struggle.