Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26145872-20160224202704/@comment-734582-20160311085306

MlGshinobi wrote: I disagree with naruto not being better. He mastered 2 jutsu jiriaya could not-rasenshuriken and perfect sage mode and has larger reserves compared to a man who actually trained his opponent, has a lifetime of experience, a Sage Mode on par with Naruto's (except for the partial transformations and the two sage frogs), numerous strong techniques on his own and considerable reserves on his own. Jiraiya's still a better ninja, Naruto may have outdone him with the Rasenshuriken but that doesn't compensate for all the other things. MlGshinobi wrote: Bansho tenin combined with asura path can stomp jiraiya. Im saying they would use bansho tenin on jiraiya himself not the frogs, and combined with summons, rocket launchers etc its too much. Pain's conversation with Tsunade seems to suggest that binding yourself to a surface via chakra is a counter to Bansho Tenin.

Jiraiya has his own summons (and Naruto was allowed to have more vs Pain than Jiraiya had). He was misled by the Six Path Jutsu (which is exactly what it's intended to do) and wasted time and chakra chasing ghosts. Naruto had everything figured out for him, something he never would've been able to do in Jiraiya's position.