Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20170610192426/@comment-30168130-20170612004426

but am I lying? first ep, he makes 100 clones on his first try (and he's 11, mind u) so I don't know why a 30 y/o couldn't make more than a thousand, much less, 5000. and he has made rasenshuriken with clones before, so it makes sense that he can do it now. and by my logic, he fought against gaara using that technique (with no rasengans), against madara, against kurama, and maybe a few more. pretty sure most of those characters I just mentioned there, were in between high jonin to above kage lvl. (gaara is the weakest one, but u get the point). and sasuke is only superior to Naruto in speed, cuz his taijutsu has lost to quite a few people when he wasn't using his sharingan. and since he doenst have his sharingan active in this conversation, I don't even know why u mentioned genjtusu. chidori current and chidori stream are the same thing iirc, chidori sword and chidori spear are basically the same thing as well (one is longer than the other), and tbh, it has only worked against madara, and that was from a surprise attack, fire style jutsu have been totally destroyed by basic rasengans before (when they fought on the roof, in the pts), dragon fire jutsu is a fire ball on steroids (that yet again, has never, ever hurt an enemy before), I don't remember what shadow snake is, so please tell me what it is, and his summoning can only be used with his wrist bands, so if he loses them, gets them burned, or something like that, he might not have enough chakra to even use it anymore (and a lot of characters have summonings, so that can be countered quite easily, and they are kinda useless against most kage lvl opponents so...), and kirin can be prevented in so many ways, its kinda weird, and he has only used all these jutsu while NOT in base, so... but after alllll this I see that he has many more jutsu besides the ones I mentioned, so u win on jutsu quantity part.