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Actionmanrandell wrote: Rage gtx wrote: Actionmanrandell wrote: Elveonora wrote: "tamoe count the more tamoe the more powerful" So you say Sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan?... Kaguya&Madara's eyes are identical to Sasuke's, save the amount of tomoe. A red eye with ripples and 9 tomoe being a Sharingan, the same eye but with 6 tomoes being a Rinnegan doesn't make any sense to me. you are an idiot. the Rinnegan is a mutation of the Sharingan(its the next step up on the latter like Mangekyou is 1 step above sharingan and EMS is a step further then that well Rinnegan is a step further then EMS kaguya had the byakugan in her two eyes they were pure white no sharingan they showed her third eye gone in most of the pictures when they talk about her having the sharingan the third eye is open. they are talking about her third eye which is purely a sharingan sasuke has tamoe on his Rinnegan because it is a combination Sharingan-Rinnegan Please don't go on insults.

So Madara`s not evolved his rinnegan from sharingan(he has no tomoe at all) and what it is comibination(sasuke eye) you mean his eye not rinnegan but sharinnegan? Sasukes Sharingan Rinnegan is the result of hagoromo giving him a fragment of his power the eyes appearance is that because its not a completed Rinnegan he only has one where in hagoromo had a complete Rinnegan and it was pure purple with black ripples no tamoe so we can take that with two meanings 1. the Rinnegan hagoromo had did not have the power of the sharingan or 2 he had the Sharingan and the Rinnegan but could access both them while the Rinnegan is active like madara can

its likely the latter since madara's eyes are pure purple with black ripples and he can use both sharingan rinnegan simultaneously

but to say that kaguya must have had the Rinnegan because her eye came first is pure speculation also its absurd because the Rinnegan is hagoromo's dojutsu the eye is a mutation of kaguya's power and people who think that just because she was more powerful then hagoromo means she had to have had the Rinnegan are not thinking properly

lets put it this way madara has the Sharingan and Rinnegan but when him and hashirama battled all he had was His Sharingan. yet hashirama still beat him even though madara had the ultimate sharingan the EMS the same thing could be said about kaguya. she had the byakugan(a dojutsu that has superior vision than both the sharingan and Rinnegan) and the Sharingan. that combination has to be a powerful combination. on top of that hagoromo did not use the words more powerful then anyone he said her chakra was more powerful than anyone. ie it doesn't matter if his dojutsu is superior in the manner that he has the six paths she still had stronger chakra Sorry but most you wrote is your own theory not stated in manga(this is not fanon wiki).

Still following this logic Madara wasted time and resources to gain Shinju(by definition we have now) eye - that he haved from birth(sic) and if this eye is sharingan then why he need Shiju(if it for chakra only). Main thing is that sharingan have 3 tomoe if it more then it something else.

And last thing Madara stated that he need power of rinne to cast that jutsu, which makes MT rinnegan-based even if he dont uses it(rinnegan)