Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-32617252-20180505055143/@comment-6769189-20180610050944

HereComDatBoi wrote:

Momoshiki knew about SPSM before hand when he whipped it out during the stadium battle, yet wasn't able to react at all when he had Naruto's back. Naruto turned a complete 180 degrees, grabbed Momoshiki's arm, elbowed him, then proceeded to roundhouse kick the dude all without Momoshiki being able to react, at all. Momoshiki didnt realize that Naruto could still activate KCM. Naruto didnt pull a complete 180, he was already turning around. Naruto also was holding him when he elbowed him so its not all about Naruto being faster than Momo.

Getting in one surprise/cheap shot doesnt mean he is superior. There are many times in the series where a character gets a hit only because their opponant isnt aware of what they are capable of. Sasuke almost got the bell during his first against Kakashi but that doesnt mean he was anywhere near Kakashi's level. Naruto did the same with Kaguya when he hit her after Reverse Harem and it knocked her back a bit but ultimately didnt hurt her.

HereComDatBoi wrote:

How is VOTE2 irrelevant? Naruto was being overpowered during VoTE2 even more than his struggle with Momoshiki! How would him being overpowered in that specific instance actually lead to him being defeated?

Sasuke threw much more powerful techniques at Naruto's Kurama avatar and he pretty much shrugged most of it off, so pray tell, how is Naruto going to lose the entire fight if he was overpowered in that one instance during a fist-fight? VOTE2 is irrelevent because they are in a way different power teir as of Boruto. Naruto was also not being overpowered in that fight. He and Sasuke were matching one another almost blow for blow the entire fight. Being overpowered worse back then also doesnt change the fact that was being overpowered in Boruto.

This "one instance" is Naruto using his biggest and baddest form and is the only way he can fight Momo and Naruto was getting manhandled. How is he going to win? HereComDatBoi wrote:

Was it stated somewhere Kimoshiki could knock Naruto out of that mode in a giant fist fight? What's stopping Naruto from making clones of his avatar and gang-banging Momoshiki? Doesnt need to be stated because we know that if he runs out of chakra then he cant use the Kurama avatar and as it was going, he couldnt even match the golem. It was just a matter of time and shadow clones would have just sped up that process AND divide his strength when he was already weaker than Momo.

HereComDatBoi wrote:

Like Momoshiki, it's not like Naruto was even injured in anyway during the entire course of the battle either. Drained of chakra in the beginning, yes. Physically injured, not that I can see. Momoshiki wasnt injured. The difference is Naruto's biggest, most powerful/destructive form was getting pushed around by Momo's

The entire point of this whole fight was to follow the "overcoming adversity through teamwork" theme that the series has pushed since day 1. If Naruto or Sasuke were capable of taking Momo alone, they wouldnt have needed eachothers help for the win.