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Re: blaze talk
I guess it was deleted. WindStar7125 (talk) 21:53, June 4, 2014 (UTC) WindStar7125

Blaze talk
That was me. I archived the largest portion of older topics, which made a pretty big archive, and the most recent topic, well, see the very big warning in the top of that talk page. Arguments about Blaze Release have been done ad nauseam, and just end up going in circles all too familiar, which are pointless considering there has been no new relevant information on what it is or how it works pretty much since the term was first introduced. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:55, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Try having to part of those, explaining the same thing over and over again. Actually, don't, it'll make your brain hurt. Regarding your question, wind and blaze were only used collaboratively so far, not against each other. In a collaboration technique, the composing techniques feed into each other. Regarding what blaze may or may not be composed of, that's the "explain so many times your brain hurts" I mentioned before. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:08, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * If they had been used against each other, there's also the issue of the amount of chakra put in them. A jutsu of a "weaker" nature can overcome one of a "stronger" nature if the jutsu is more powerful or has more chakra put behind them. For example, say Naruto threw a Rasenshuriken against Sasuke's Great Fireball. Rasenshuriken is a much more powerful technique, so it makes up for the nature disadvantage. There is no instance of blaze and wind being pitted against one another to say how they'd work, and the amount of chakra put into the jutsu also influences it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:02, June 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * To which I again refer you to what has been said ad nauseam of what this is, on the basis of having a different name alone. A summarised version is at the second to last topic in the second Blaze Release talk page archive. Following that, if Blaze Release is truly just a strong Fire Release, Kishimoto has to explicitly say so, because he has developed an entire logical basis for something with a different name not to be just a strong Fire Release. The same argument erupted when Storm Release first appeared. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:41, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Japanese
I have no experience with Rosetta Stone, but it's pretty famous, huh? I learned it in evening classes and later as a second foreign languagae in high school. But I'm not learning it anymore. • Seelentau 愛 議 10:24, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

re: your opinion
I wouldn't bother Omni with such things, he isn't very active lately. For the "issues" at hand:
 * I already told you that the TBB is a glitch
 * I already gave you a reason why the Rinnegan is there
 * Yes, the icon should be changed, but I don't know how
 * Brought that up on his talkpage, no one bothered to answer--Elveonora (talk) 12:34, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * At least I solved the Ten-Tails' Rinnegan infobox issue.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 12:43, September 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks--Elveonora (talk) 12:51, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Understood, but spamming 10 people's talkpage with the same thing won't get you anywhere.--Elveonora (talk) 13:15, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

re: opinion
Shinju's infobox can be edited here.

And I'm not sure what you're asking about Six Paths. ~SnapperTo 20:12, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Incarnation isn't merger--Elveonora (talk) 20:56, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

No one says the original Shinju had Rinnegan though. But I'm of the notion (and I'm not alone) that Obito summoned the Shinju, recreated from Ten-Tails' body or not, but it was the Shinju--Elveonora (talk) 21:20, September 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * My opinion on the first point is that trees don't have eyes, I suppose.
 * The Six Paths thing seems an ill-conceived part of this edit. The plain Six Path detail should probably be moved back to the Rinnegan section. ~SnapperTo 21:54, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: your pain
Just do what I do and pretend he's not a real person. You can't get mad at someone who doesn't exist. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 22:09, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: the shinju talk
No problem. You're welcome. :)-- WindStar7125   22:53, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Remind me what that off-topic thing was again. Sorry, I was too busy arguing with Elveonora. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 23:33, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I happen to fully agree. I have no clue why some articles say Kaguya only gained the Rinnegan from eating the chakra fruit. Other Kekkei Genkai such as the Byakugan, Dead Bone Pulse, etc, require chakra as well. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 23:47, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Courtesy of me, Is this what you were looking for regarding adding more abilities Kaguya had gained from eating the fruit? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 02:47, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: six paths round 2 talk
Allow me to clarify. What brings forth the Rinnegan is Hagoromo's chakra (the Six Paths Chakra) and the Sharingan over a period of time. Indra + Asura = Hagoromo's chakra. You must have awaken Hagoromo's chakra first, which takes time. Because of Sasuke and Madara, I believe the EMS and Six Paths chakra = the Rinnegan (again, there are those who disagree), because Naruto didn't have the Rinnegan and yet has the Six Paths chakra. I thought it was simply having senju and uchiha DNA, then it was specified that Indra and Asura bring forth Hagormo's chakra. Hagoromo's chakra gives the Rinnegan. It went from Senju DNA + Uchiha DNA = Rinnegan to Hagoromo's chakra = Rinnegan. But then Naruto has Hagoromo's chakra, but no Rinnegan. So due to that, and Sasuke and Madara, I say the Rinnegan = Hagoromo's chakra + the Sharingan + time (unless you directly received chakra from Hagoromo himself like Sasuke, then the time variable is dropped). The Sharingan evolving to a Rinnegan only applies to Rinnegan infused with Hagoromo's chakra (in other words, light purple Rinnegan). Kaguya is the only person to have the Rinnegan first (due to eating the chakra fruit). -- WindStar7125   21:25, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

When an Asura reincarnation gains Indra's chakra from an Uchiha's DNA, over time, Hagoromo's chakra will come and bring forth the Rinnegan. (However, Naruto is the only person with Hagoromo's chakra without the Rinnegan, so shrugs :/) No. Asura's reincarnation needs Indra's chakra to bring forth Hagoromo's to get the Rinnegan. Nothing else. The Sharingan is a Kekkai Genkai of the Uchiha. I don't recall the body of a Senju being a KG. Their bodies are special, but I wouldn't compare it to kekkai genkai. Wood Release is a KG of the Senju (specifically Hashirama), not their bodies.
 * ".but I wanna know what happens when an asura reincarnation gains indra's chakra or dna...what does he gain...& if he's gonna gain sth like how indra gains rinnegan, "
 * "does asura's reincarnation need sth else beside indra's chakra..."
 * "or is it that his body is enough for the process since senju body is like a KG the same way sharingan is a KG for uchiha..."

-- WindStar7125   21:49, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

I guess that "something else" Asura gains is the Six Paths Sage Technique.
 * "that's my point...I think only indra gains rinnegan...asura gets sth else if he goes through the sam process..."

I'm well aware that you said it was like a KG. Their bodies special, yes, like I said. similar to the bloodline limit (KG in literal english). -- WindStar7125   22:12, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
 * "that's why I said senju body is LIKE a KG...since asura inherited hagoromo's body & yang chakra it's like a KG for the senju clan...the same way indra inherited hagoromo's eyes & yin chakra..."

"also...why is sasuke's rinnegan different that other rinnegans?"

This is a very interesting question (not that your previous ones weren't, but I'm glad there's someone willing to hear my opinion). In chapter 692, page 7 (if you count the large and wide pages as two pages), it was confirmed that Hagoromo gave Sasuke that different Rinnegan for the sole purpose of deactivating the Infinite Tsukuyomi, which brings me to this conclusion: it seems that only Rinnegan with tomoe can cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi (proven by Madara using Kaguya's third eye in the end of chapter 676) and deactivate it (suggested for Sasuke's Rinnegan by Kakashi chapter 678, page 11, and confirmed by Hagoromo when talking to Sasuke in chapter 692). Some people want Sasuke dead, but my question to that is "Who would deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi?" A user suggest that if Sasuke died, Naruto could just take the Rinnegan from the autopsy of the first Animal Path in the Invasion of Pain (assuming it's still there). I responded to that with "the dual Rinnegan Madara and Hagoromo awakened can't cast or deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi." Here are my reasons:

1. If the dual Rinnegan Madara awakened before death could cast/deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi, then why would Madara want to revive the Ten-Tails and on top of that, use its red Rinnegan to cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi in the end of chapter 676 if he could have used his own?

2. Also, If the dual Rinnegan Hagoromo and Madara had could cast/deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi, then Hagoromo would have just given Sasuke the same dual Rinnegan he and Madara had.

3. And finally, If the dual Rinnegan could cast/deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi, Hagoromo would have done it himself. I mean he did aid in summoning souls from the pure world, I am not questioning Hagoromo's abilities in any fashion.

Yes, the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan genjutsu, confirmed by Sasuke in chapter 678, page 11, but the reasons I just gave suggest that the dual, tomoe-less Rinnegan can't cast or deactivate the Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's Rinnegan may appear different, but I think it's a hybrid of Hagoromo's and Kaguya's Rinnegan. Like Hagoromo's eyes, Sasuke's Rinnegan is light purple and can use the Six Paths Technique (proven by Sasuke using Chibaku Tensei in chapter 692) and like Kaguya's, his Rinnegan is singular-eyed and has tomoe, and can deactivate (therefore potentially cast) the Infinite Tsukuyomi (again, confirmed by Hagoromo in 692).

All of that was a deduction. It may not have been confirmed or stated, but it was just as deduced as Sand = Magnet and Amaterasu = Blaze was, so hopefully no one comes at me with "that wasn't stated in the manga" and such... -- WindStar7125   20:11, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

What more do you have to ask or talk about regarding this topic? -- WindStar7125   15:49, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Your profile
Since you asked on your profile page what to put there, you can just check out mine if you'd like. it's detailed. Munchvtec (talk) 16:07, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

no problem and thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 17:04, September 30, 2014 (UTC)