Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26107879-20180916000113

I've never seen Itachi really end a fight before it began except once against Deidara and maybe some fodder.

Kimimaro counters Itachi's Susanoo with his Dance of the Seedling Fern. Being edo counters his Taijutsu and Bukijutsu. Itachi is perfectly countered in this match up.

He uses Shuriken? Don't work on Edo's and Orochimaru can definitely dodge his Shuriken if he can keep up with Kyubi Cloaked Naruto.

Taijutsu? Kimimaro holds the advantage with his various dances. Konan can easily avoid him with her paper technique and maybe hit him with a few explosions. He won't get to Orochimaru if he can't get passed them, and even then Orochimaru can avoid with Hiding in Surface Technique.

Genjutsu? Multiple teammates as Ninja pointed out, counters this.

Ninjutsu? Nothing but his Mangekyo abilities are really effective against the Edo's. If he uses Susanoo he is killed by Kimimaro. Amaterasu isn't effective since it can't kill, harm, or hurt anyone of them. Totsuka blade needs Susanoo.

I think Orochimaru wins this with Mid difficulty. Itachi is strong and smart. But the same can be said about Orochimaru and he has two very powerful and smart edo's. Itachi will likely find he isn't going to have his way with them. Against Orochimaru, sure. Konan and Kimimaro are no push overs. Konan especially. I don't see any attacks from Itachi landing on her except Genjutsu.

As for Orochimaru helping. I think he doesn't except to help them break free from Genjutsu. I know his healing factor is on another level and that he has enough power to control Tobirama. But other than that, his powers at this point in time are mysterious. Does he have all Zetsu's abilities? Does he have Sage Mode now cause he obtained a body and the reason he couldn't use it was cause of his body? Can he use Wood Release? These questions are possibilities that are unanswered. So until we get a showing on Orochimaru, I think he'd steer clear from Itachi due to how Itachi outplays him whenever it's a 1v1. So he's more a liability to his edo's if he is involved in anything other than helping break free from Genjutsu.