Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25139119-20140705022956/@comment-25272406-20140813114708

Jtw2014 wrote: ShaRin'negan94 wrote: Rachin123 wrote: ShaRin'negan94 wrote: ItachiWasAHero wrote: You also forget Nagato was not used to his legs and was still crippled when Kabuto restored him using Bee's chakra and had him almost kill Bee and Naruto.. Nagato is a monster and has mastered the 7 paths and many many other ninjutsu, Sasuke has a long way to go before he gets to Nagato's level, PLOT armor and PLOT killing is what stopped Nagato.. a crippled Nagato was Kabuto's second Strongest Edo Tensei, Itachi was his third Strongest Edo Tensei and Madara with all of his enhancements: wood release, rinnegan and Kabuto somehow making him in his prime WITH all of those enhancements, Made him Kabuto's Strongest Edo Tensei.. and they were all still a good bit weaker than if they were actually brought back to life as shown with Madara reviving himself and easily breaking out of Edo Hashirama's technique even though he could not do that before as an Edo.

Even now Sasuke also has many many Ninjutsu and with all his mangekyo techniques I think that he isn't far away from Nagato I actuallly think that he's stronger than Nagato NAruto is just an idiot who can only spam his rasengan and nothing more without Kurama he would be nothing (and he wouldn't be so fast and strong without kuramana or the six paths technique) well I think if Sasuke gets the Rinne paths because of his Rinnegan his rinne techniques will be much stronger than Nagatos (because these weren't even Nagatos own eyes) and he would also have more rinne techniques like limbo or some new ones but only IF he would get access to them As much as its true he wouldnt be near as strong if he didn't have kurama but he also mastered sage mode. It seems that you hate how Naruto uses the power of the biju but he's a jinchuriki. It should be what you expect. But if you wanna go there Sasuke would've been blind if he didn't get Itachi eyes which didn't belong to him like kurama don't belong to Naruto. And going from what we've seen so far from Sasuke's rinnegan power and Nagato's I'd say Nagato put in better work. Yes it wasn't Nagato's eyes so he wouldn't be as strong as the owner but that could just mean if the user maatered it. Someonbe coulkd have the ability but not the skill as such.

I don't really hate Naruto but I actually hate the idea of an underdog who surpasses the genius by hard training

well if the underdog keeps training like an idiot and the genius stops at some point yes the underdog could surpass him but the genius (in this case Sasuke) wasn't stopping he also was training all the time(not like an idiot because a genius soesn't need the same amount of training)

the other thing is that the only technique Naruto has is his Rasengan and his clone (the clones actually everybody could use them especially sasuke with his sharingan who could copy it if he wanted to) And the only thing Naruto mastered by himself was Sage mode everything else is because of the Bijuus and their chakra

but its like Ashura and Indra = indra the one who was a genius and could do anything alone and Ashura who at first needed the help of others to acomplish something and then later gets stronger If Naruto is spamming the rasengan, then you cannot deny that Sasuke is spamming Susanno ever since he got it. Sure Naruto is constantly using rasengan, but at least he is mixing it up with different nature transformation. Sasuke, on the other hand, is constantly just attacking Kaguya with his sword, like seriously, if you cannot touch her without transforming into a humongous ass freaking Susanno that can easily be dodged or countered, then maybe you should just sit out for a while.

well you can't really compare rasengan and susanoo. Suasnoo is more like the Bijuu mode for Sasuke (the cloak) rasengan is compareable to chidori

I like Sasuke way more than Naruto which doesn't mean I hate Naruto, he is still with Kakashi and Itachi one of my favorite characters it's more the underdog and genius story which annoys me !!!!!

I mean back when Naruto found Sasuke for the first time after this 2,5 years Sasuke was stronger than NAruto, Sai, Sakura, and Yamato together (he was faster stronger and had better techniques) without having a MAngekyo then NAruto learns the Rasenshuriken which is indeed a strong technique but doesn't affect Narutos physical strength or speed and is only one technique which could be dodged

so still Sasuke is superior to Naruto (because one single technique doesn't make you a god, it can be dodged and so on)

then naruto learns Sage Mode and Sasuke gets the Mangekyo so both get a power boost and still Sasuke SHOULD be stronger than Naruto because of his Amaterasu his Susanoo and his genjutsu (and from the speed and strength level they are equal now)

and then NAruto only gets stronger by help from the Bijuus (Kyubi Chakra Mode + Bijuu Mode) and well okay Sasuke gets the eyes of his brother = EMS (but he's already dead and it would be a waste not to use them) = But as seen in the war the were equal then.

and then both get a power up from Hagoromo and now from what is shown in the manga NARUTO IS JUST GOT MUCH MUCH STRONGER THAN SASUKE => WHEN did this happen ? OR WHY is he so much stronger ?

all the time Naruto was weaker than Sasuke and now he is (from what is shown) much much stronger than Sasuke, which is kind of stupid and not logical or fair. Both have the same number of power ups but it seems that Naruto's power ups are always somehow better or make him much stronger than Sasuke's power ups do