Talk:Karin/Archive 2

Bite Marks
Did the new chapter mention who those other bite marks are from?66.211.134.194 (talk) 13:48, June 19, 2013 (UTC)Carignan

apparently not. Suigetsu just said that she had let other people bite her before, no information on who ^^ --我是红云 (talk) 14:02, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Karin just mention that she is Sasuke's object xD. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 14:11, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Object???...66.211.134.194 (talk) 14:31, June 19, 2013 (UTC)Carignan

... no. That was a mistranslation, most likely from a biased translator. This is what Karin said: カリン　（はっ！！）ちっ…　違がア…！！あんなクソヤローサスケ好き…くねーだろが！！ウチをころしかけたのが…　たまらない…違うかアー！！ which is something along the line of: Karin (Aaah!) NO… NOT ALL…!! LIKING THAT MORON OF SASUKE… NO WAY!! HE TRIED TO MURDER ME… UNBEARABLE… NOT ALL!! ...so yeah. --我是红云 (talk) 15:48, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Whose dark chakra did Karin sense in Naruto?
When Karin was brought to Konoha by Kakashi, she sensed Naruto's chakra as bright and warm, but then she felt something as dark and cold as Sasuke's chakra. Since Naruto is Kurama's jinchūriki, many thought it was the fox's evil chakra; but then, Dark Naruto appeared. What should we say about it? We can't be sure wheter it was Kurama or Dark Naruto, since it would be speculation anyway. Also, Karin already knew of Naruto's status as the Nine-Tails' jinchūriki.--JOA20 (talk) 20:31, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dark Naruto didn't exist, he was only in Naruto's mind and represented the bad personality traits and suppressed hatred.--Elveonora (talk) 21:00, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yami Naruton could only be sensed trough negative emotions. Karin can sea chakra. Granted I don't think it should have. Slink there in the first place, but I don't think it's Naruto's hatred she sensed.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 22:35, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Super Healing
Okay, i've been wondering for some time now, but does Karin really possess super healing capabilities? I mean, we saw Kabuto inject her dna into himself, and even accredited his near instant healing powers to her dna, but does Karin herself, possess it?--KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 05:20, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems like she does given that she heals Sasuke but for some reason she can't use them on herself, given all the bite marks she has on her. TricksterKing (talk) 11:40, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering to this day why isn't super healing acknowledged in here as general Uzumaki trait despite Kabuto directly accrediting it to their life force--Elveonora (talk) 12:38, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

If you'd like to add it go ahead, if it's deleted welll then ah well. Munchvtec 14:43, January 13, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
 * One thing that I feel must not be neglected in this case is that Kabuto didn't simply acquire their abilities, he experimented with them. For example, he doesn't quite use the same technique as Suigetsu, and he didn't display the multi-purpose transformations Jūgo does. It's not unreasonable that with the research and experiments, he expanded on Karin's healing potential. If Karin had accelerated healing herself, I don't think she'd have been so vulnerable when Sasuke stabbed Danzō through her. We mustn't forget that Kabuto also had Orochimaru's White Snake power, which includes faster healing as well, as pointed out a while when Sasuke credited his own faster healing (after the fight with Deidara, if I'm not mistaken) to it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:03, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * You are so correct, taking back what I said then. Just because it's in her DNA doesn't mean it's "active" I get it? But it still should be mentioned that they heave "potential for accelerated healing" or something--Elveonora (talk) 16:07, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * I didnt quite look at it that way, but that sounds most reasonable-- Senju_Symbol.svgKotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 16:33, January 13, 2014 (UTC).

Image
Please add this photo in profil Karin in Part 1.
 * No. Karin was not a Part I character, her appearing in a flashback that takes place during Part I doesn't change that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:01, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

ok but please  change her photo in  part 2  please
 * Current infobox image shows how she is, we're not going to use a photo of how a character used to be as the main image of the article. Sign your posts from now on, just put four tildes at the end of your comments. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:11, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Taijutsu
Please add this photo in Karin's taijutsu.
 * No. Karin has no significant taijutsu skills that would warrant its own section. Also, start signing your posts. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:30, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Medical ninjutsu
please add medical ninjutsu in  karin's jutsu because  you  remove  it.
 * Her name is added in the proper technique infobox, so there must be a bug that makes the technique not appearing. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 14:36, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Images
please ad this foto File:Karin_in_part_2.jpg  and File:Appearance_karin.jpg
 * Low quality and no real importance in my eyes. Besides, you could do it yourself anytime. Also, please sign your posts. Noweeaboohoo (talk) 14:48, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally, I wouldn't mind an image that shows her head to toe in the appearance section, but yours is a terrible quality image, and it's too dark. The other one is completely pointless, essentially a duplicate of her current infobox image, and also terrible quality. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:57, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

Profile Image
Please add this photo in infobox's Karin.Emermbiemer - Talk - Contributions
 * Why do you want to change the current one? In yours she looks kinda sad... --Kasan94 (talk) 10:43, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree. The one we have is much nicer than this.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:28, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * No change is required to the infobox image for Karin. --Speysider Talk Page 13:52, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Simply put: Just look at that black bar! Nice try though...--NaviiGator (A.K.A.KotoSenju) Talk Page-My Contributions 15:31, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Stats
Please add stats in Karin
 * Stats are decided by Masashi Kishimoto and presented in databooks. We have to wait for him to make a new one. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 11:05, March 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Why are so many people so derp lately about such simple things? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:53, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Shosen Jutsu
please add this photo in Karin
 * It's unnecessary. Plus that image has no proper rationale and license. ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 17:33, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Occupation
I think that you  must add in occupation Karin because  she  is  guardian of  jails  of  Orochimaru  Naruto episode 115 said  this, you are  so  stubborn because  you add  think  only  in Page  that  like  you and  not page  that  need to add i Know  very well  that  you aren't  Masashi Kishimoto  and  i  don't  care  so  much because  i  know  very well how  strog  is  InO  and  Karin. I think that are most  kunoichi powerful  in  Naruto because Ino  lear  earth release and  learn  more  jutsu of  her  clan  and  Karin learn one  jutsu that  is  legendary Chakra Chains ok.
 * Okay? I can't see how it adds as an occupation. Plus, it's already stated on the first paragraph. She assisted Orochimaru in his experiments, and was left in charge of his Southern Hideout while he was away. Whatever fangirling you say. ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 18:55, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * That is not considered an occupation. --Speysider Talk Page 19:03, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Infobox
please add this photo in infobox Karin. File:Karin-naruto-3.jpg
 * No. You were just told in the above discussion that there is no need to change the image: why are you asking again to have it changed? Also, please start signing your posts. --Speysider Talk Page 11:53, March 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah, the current one is the better one. ~IndxcvNovelist (talk 11:56, March 16, 2014 (UTC)

New infobox image
How about this photo for infobox.Uzumaki.shinobi (talk) 13:57, April 11, 2014 (UTC)Uzumaki.shinobi
 * I don't really like that photo, the color looks kinda wrong. --Kasan94 (talk) 14:10, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with the current one.... >_> --Speysider Talk Page 14:29, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also opposed to it. I don't know why there's so much interest in changing the current image. Noweeaboohoo (talk) 14:32, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's probably the same person as before. I've blocked the first account a while ago when I got confirmation that two other accounts were sockpuppets. The block on the original account has expired, but the sockpuppet accounts are permanently blocked, the person probably doesn't remember the original accounts password. He or she will might try to recover that account, but they'll probably just find it easier to keep creating new accounts. Karin doesn't need a new profile image, despite what you think, and all this whack-a-mole you're pulling, it won't make us any more willing to do it, just the opposite actually. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:31, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm seriously considering simply blocking those poor-image uploading, Karin obsessed accounts. There's no regard for community consensus that no new image is required, and between the multiple accounts, there's clear disregard for image policy. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:49, April 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with Omnibender, I also think this talkpage should be protected for a little while and asking users to make forum threads if they absolutely must require a discussion on how to improve the article. --Speysider Talk Page 19:36, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

That I disagree with. I rather take a punitive action against an isolated account than restrict everyone's ability to raise legitimate concerns about the article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:55, April 14, 2014 (UTC)

Jutsu
Please add jutsu Karin because you remove it.
 * Which one? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 15:57, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * If a jutsu is not showing, use the Null Edit option in the drop down on both Karin and Infobox:Karin to get the data properly. --Speysider Talk Page 15:59, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do that on the jutsu page first. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:29, April 17, 2014 (UTC)

Outfit in "Iruka's Decision"
I did an edit a few months ago that concerned her appearance in episode 178. I might be able to get an image of the dress she wore in the episode, but I would have to get a screenshot, then crop it so that it would show only her in the image. Also, the angles she's shown at either are a bit far away, or show her from the back. But, if it would help the "appearance" part of her article, then I would be happy to do so. If there's any rules that I am forgetting or that I do not know of, then please tell me and I'll adhere by them. Plane in the Desert (talk) 16:20, July 28, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert

Anime Only History
I didn't see this in the article, so maybe I overlooked it- That time that Karin and Sasuke joined up to track down escaped prisoners. The image under her abilities is from that episode where she embraces his chakra (is that what she was doing?). Anyway, was this moment removed from the article, or did I just overlook it? Diamonddeath (talk) 20:31, July 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * If it's not there, add it.--Elveonora (talk) 20:39, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

Chakra Chains
I think by now it's a fact that Karin can use Chakra Chains. This ability should be added to her infobox.

--Matako (talk) 00:04, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I mean I don't see why not. Its pretty obvious. I approve. Rachin123 (talk) 00:10, September 19, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
 * It's there, it just doesn't show up due to technical nonsense few understand--Elveonora (talk) 10:07, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah... Well, then it just has to be fixed. The tool Kunai should probably also be added to her tools in the infobox while someone's at it, since she was seen using one in Chapter 365 Page 11. --Matako (talk) 18:29, September 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Since kunai and shuriken are used by almost all ninja, we only list those who has special skills or types of the weapon. Holding a kunai to rip apart a shirt is not special. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 03:51, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad. I didn't know this. Pardon. --Matako (talk) 16:29, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Uzumaki jutsu
Why are her heal bite and Mind's Eye of the Kagura listed as Uzumaki jutsu? Just because MEotK is hiden doesn't mean it's from the clan. And while hb has a connection with the vitality, it was never linked to her being an Uzumaki. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:58, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Mind's Eye of Kagura isn't even listed as an Uzumaki jutsu, and heal bite has been linked with her being an Uzumaki. --Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 (talk) 15:49, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Whooops, sorry, my bad (about the Mind's Eye page). I was mass editing the hiden jutsu pages so that there would be the clan symbols in the infoboxes. Guess I didn't give it too much though back then. I'll revert it right away.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 16:36, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Something's wrong?
There was nothing on Karin's page. What happened? Justin Holland (talk) 22:23, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * what do you mean? if there's nothing, then you should have use Null Edit Kunoichi101 (talk) 23:10, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it's fixed now. Justin Holland (talk) 23:15, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Why is Karin listed under Naruto's clan when there is no confirmed connection?
I have looked all over the history part of Karin, as well as reviewing all the episodes I could remember, and there is no indication at all Karin is part of Naruto's clan. The only real connection that is currently canon from what I see is her red hair, but I am pretty sure other people had red hair too. TheCrypticShadow (talk) 13:52, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Kabuto stated that Karin was a member of the Uzumaki clan while fighting Sasuke and Itachi.--JOA2013:56, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Tobirama noted she had Uzumaki chakra. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:14, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Karin uses Uzumaki clan's Hiden.--Sharingan91 (talk) 15:33, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Karin's Status
Is Karin Classified As Not A Subordinate Of Orochimaru Even Though She's Been In Orochimaru's Base And Was Never Confirmed To Actually Split From Sound? Bob1200 (talk) 08:52, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm mistaken, "Orochimaru Subordinate" is not a classification.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 10:28, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * She's listed as being affiliated with Otogakure, which is pretty much the same thing. --Atrix471 (talk) 10:44, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Two Backgrounds
At this point there's really no way of rectifying Karin's anime background with the story from the databook about her village being destroyed, so how should this be handled? Maybe separate subsections under Background for her manga past and her anime past?--BeyondRed (talk) 13:57, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * She lived in a village, it got attacked, burnt down and she was the only survivor of the attack. Sometime later, she and her mum (who wasn't necessary in the village when it got attacked) moved to Kusa, gets bullied, takes part in the Chūnin Exams, then down the track encounters Orochimaru, who she told how she survived the attack on her original village. Does the timeline contradict somewhere? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:10, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^Not at all. --Omojuze (talk) 14:18, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * The databook entry, at least going off of Viz's translation, has Orochimaru find Karin unscathed in her burnt down village and then decide to take her in after she tells him she knew the attackers were coming. Sensing was still something unique to her at that point in the story, after all. Going only by the manga, we can't even say for certain whether she was ever an actual Kusa ninja or just another spy for Otogakure.--BeyondRed (talk) 14:24, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * The entry is wordy but it can be said that that burnt place is the place she was told to go to. no? Munchvtec (talk) 14:27, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Orochimaru didn't meet her in the ruins of a destroyed village though. He met her in a fine-looking village populated by at least two others when his snake saved her from them.--BeyondRed (talk) 14:31, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Databook says she was found in a burnt village and the anime showed a fine looking street. Not really much of a contradiction as the anime could of showed part of the village that was left unscathed, unless of course the databook said the entire village was burnt to ashes lol? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:53, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the two backgrounds can coexist. The databook background said she was taken in by Orochimaru after her village was burned down, when she told him she sensed people coming. Her being approached by Orochimaru in this episode was completely different. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:57, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Why do people ignore that she is inside a genjutsu? Why should ANYTHING from it be assumed to have taken place? i can assume parts of the Killer B's dreams are canon too.--Elve Talk Page 10:06, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * ...why shouldn't it? Although the episode was stupid because the point of the technique is to lock you in an ideal world (I fail to understand why the concept escapes the animators), we do still possess the ability of "In the anime..."--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:32, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because it perhaps doesn't escape them and the whole thing is a genjutsu?--Elve Talk Page 11:59, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * There was a clear change between flashback to dream. It's just silly to assume it was all a dream. Munchvtec (talk) 12:01, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * We've seen characters have flashbacks in genjutsu's before and people can relive memories in dreams, so i doubt her backstory was some made up genjutsu. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 20:43, September 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I doubt her backstory was a genjutsu too, but I also don't see how those two stories can co-exist either. I doubt they actually bother checking whether the filler stories contradict the databook stories when it comes to a character as irrelevant as Karin. All fillers are basically events that never actually happened in the canon series. This isn't the first contradiction they brought us. I would clearly separate the anime side of the story and the canon side of the story for all filler events that contradict canon sources even in the slightest. --Matako (talk) 23:23, September 26, 2015 (UTC)