Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45510280-20200416210937/@comment-26636534-20200428192447

Snapper2 wrote:

The novels expand on the manga's material just the same as the anime does. You could consider Tsukuyomi's use one such expansion. Or, if you don't want to accept it as an expansion vis-a-vis Tsukuyomi, accept it as an expansion vis-a-vis "Itachi's lover".

Maybe you're going to give the "Tobi's a liar" argument (I'm unsure if you expressed that view before). But if you did, now you can't. You can't accept expansions upon manga material only to then turn around and not accept an expansion upon manga material.

I don't personally care what material you do and don't believe, but I don't feel cherry-picking is wise. Or we could accept it as an inconsistency/exception to what was previously shown. There are many examples of "feats" that are considered exceptions, such as Obito saving MS Sasuke from Ohnoki's dust release.

The "Tobi is not credible" (conclusion not argument) expands in two directions though. One in the anime and one in the novels. While in the manga itself is not corroborated. So I don't see how @Squinty is "cherry-picking" as you say.

It was never a discussion on what is or isn't acceptable. We all know that users can post their opinions, POVs and thoughts on any of various mediums.