Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-1872728-20160404064008/@comment-734582-20160412083509

UltimaDude wrote: You kinda screwed up with the quotes, lol I make it no secret that i hate this quoting format. I thought i was pretty careful this time.

UltimaDude wrote: You're kinda right but it's still not a thing though Well, everything Six Paths related is pretty specific in itself. We have Rinnegan, Tenseigan, SPSM. Six Paths chakra seems to enhance whatever it's used for with little extra effect. So while i think georgio is correct in that it's technically a thing, i agree that it's mostly pointless.

UltimaDude wrote: That further proves that what Asura uses is not SPSM. He has similar chakra to that of his dad which is that of a TTJ, so it's not much of a stretch he can use SPS on his own Well, it depends on a few things. For example, what the black things are that his Chakra avatar hold (it could be Bijudama or TSB's). Formation of chakra arms (and presumably, avatars) are a Six Paths Senjutsu technique but also accessible to Jinchuriki.

UltimaDude wrote: The Juubi has never used Wood Release on it's own It got only a few chances to use something of it's own. It spent the majority of it's time under control of Madara and Obito.

UltimaDude wrote: But Naruto didn't get any of Kurama's powers Kurama's only true power is Negative Emotion Sensing. Kurama's primary power is having loads of chakra.

UltimaDude wrote: Since when can Jinchuriki powers be passed on genetically Gaara's case proves that Jinchuriki powers are maintained even after extraction. Naruto received Kurama's whiskers before becoming Jinchuriki, showing that a Biju has a genetic effect on it's Jinchuriki and that those genes can be passed on.

Hashirama himself is the best example of powers being passed down, not exactly being guaranteed.

UltimaDude wrote: Hehe...glad you ask...*pushes glasses* This how you get SPSM(assuming someone else besides, Naruto can get it) But if Ashura received Hagoromo's chakra, and could use Senjutsu (which is ambiguous), would he not be able to use SPSM?

Actually i wonder about your idea of SPSM. Why does it make a difference whether you get Chakra from Hagoromo directly or just recreate that chakra? Would the end effect not be the same? Madara just says that naruto "awakened the Senjutsu of Six Paths" he makes no specific mention of SPSM. He then confirms that he himself has that power too.

It really seems to me that the only difference with Naruto's SPSM is that he synchronizes his Biju with it, the same way he synchronized Kurama's chakra with his Sage Mode. The other things -TSB's, senjutsu, flight, enhanced physical parameters- all seem basic Six Paths Senjutsu which people like Obito and Madara used as well.

In fact, the only thing that seems to prevent Obito and Madara from entering SPSM properly is that they do not really know Senjutsu.

It seems to me that there's no barrier to either an Ashura or Indra attaining SPSM by gathering the other's flesh and learning Sage Mode. UltimaDude wrote: Damm, good point, once again. But, I’m kinda confused, lol. Actually, i'm wondering myself if Madara's dead body (the one Kabuto found) would still have Transmigrant chakra. Because if it does, then Madara would automatically fulfill the conditions and be Edo Tensei'd with Rinnegan, would he not? Unless you can't take Transmigrant chakra back with you to the afterlife, so Madara's spirit would be returned as if he never were a Transmigrant, even if the DNA sample does have Hagoromo's chakra. But if the DNA used for Edo Tensei is enough to make him count as a Transmigrant to awaken Rinnegan, why did he not do so automatically? Unless we have to take Hagoromo's words more literal and his Ashura chakra is much less than his Indra chakra. In that case, it could take a while before the effect of awakening Rinnegan starts to work. Then Kabuto's modifications only sped up that awakening.

Dang madara is a complex problem.