Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-6769189-20200705100921/@comment-44437908-20200713100747

Oriondragon181119 wrote: If Otsusuiki can create ten tails chakra(SPS) then tenntails absorbed that chakra from Kaguya after merging. The tsb can only be used in SPS. There is another thing here if Otsusuiki can create ten tails chakra then all otsusuki should do it. And otsusuki don't posses chakra as Hagoromo and Hamura were born with chakra. Kaguya ate the chakra fruit and that's hiw she got SPS. Hagoromo and Hamura had that chakra. And so on. The SPS is earths energy (that's a theory) as Jigen don't have SPS he had ten tails. Jigen's ten tails never absorbed earths energy so there is that.

Toneri definitely took chakra from the vessel but how he managed to acquire it is another thing as touching the vessel sucks your chakra completely and only Hamura's chakra can stop that. Toneri never had Hamura's chakra. He acquired tsb but how is mystery maybe jogan can solve it.

Naruto can only activate TSB in KCM+SPSM cloak that he used in war which had 9 magtama marks. The marks and tsb are lost so that means he is not using something (I don't know that). I could say SPS but he is still using SPSM so that's out. SPS and SPSM both grants flight to user. SPS must be related to god tree as all the user of SPS has some connection to god tree directly or indirectly (except toneri). I don't think toneri absorbed god trees chakra as we don't know how he got SPS may be after he absorbed the tenseigan vessel chakra he acquired some of Hamura's chakra as Hamura's chakra is in energy vessel.

Ashura got strong life force and body(physical powers) but Vs Rinnegan it is nothing. Every Ashura's reincarnate have some power that evened the odds. Hashirama had wood release and sage mode. Naruto has Kurama and sage mode. If indra's reincarnations gets rinnegan then logically Ashur should acquire something(SPSM) when he gets Hagoromo's chakra as Rinnegan is for spiritual power and Sage mode is for Physical power. Indra's reincarnate can activate Rinnegan(Hagoromo said it himself in chapter 671 page 50) because if Ashura and Indra both could activate Rinnegan then Naruto would also activate it as Rinnegan and Sharingan is different dojutsu and as anime is non canon we don't know how Hagoromo acquired Rinnegan. So with that Rinnegan is for Indra and there should be something for Ashura so I think its SPSM as Naruto is only user of SPSM. There is another thing as databook states SPSM was given by Hagoromo but Sasuke's Rinnegan was also given by Hagoromo but he could achieve it without Hagoromo. So Ashura's reincarnate can acquire SPSM(perfect sage mode without any pigmentation) naturally if they have Indra's flesh attached to their body. All known Ashura's reincarnate have Sage mode and can use perfect sage mode without transforming their body like Jiraya, Orochimaru, kabuto and mitsuki (jugo is not included as he doesn't have sage mode). Minato is exception as how he acquired perfect sage mode is unknown.

Now all of you will come at me saying Ashura was a dunce and didn't get any powers from his dad same as Naruto but Naruto acquired traits from his parents. Naruto got large chakra and life force. He had great speed in KCM mode which could rival flying raijin(no teleportation) but KCM just boosts your natural ability. He created his own jutsu upgradation to his dads. So Ashura could have acquired powers like Hagoromo and he could have activated after hard training. All things Ashura did sounds like training for SPSM that was mentioned in fourth databook.

About the 9 magatama markings in chapter 670 page 39 Hagoromo said" I partitioned the power of ten tails that wws inside me and named them" and the markings are shown. Ten tails power is his chakra but Hagoromo never had complete ten Tails as gedo statue was on moon so that leads to more questions. So I think ten tails power is SPS in this case and re acquiring all tailed beast chakra you get SPS. Naruto acquired SPS but also SPSM(he got sage mode that can use SPS)because he was reincarnate as all other SPS users are ten tails jinchuriki (no otsusuki) and don't have SPSM. Hagoromo might have SPSM but we don't know that. The things I wrote here are answers to my questions that you gave me. It is summary of all the answers that you gave me and I wrote it in paragraph form so you can't understand that. If you read the previous replies then you will understand. All the points I wrote here are stated by all of you.

And Hagoromo never had gedo statue sealed inside him. The gedo statue was sealed inside moon which Hamura guarded. Hagoromo had ten tails chakra and breath life into that chakra to create tailed beast.