Talk:Naruto Uzumaki

New OVA Naruto vs Konohamaru
Naruto and Konohamaru are now chunin they competed in a chunin exams in Sunagakure and even though Konohamaru won Naruto was also promoted to chunin bcuz of his deeds in the past( saving Konoha several times...etc.--Narutonerd123 (talk) 23:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC) Watch the new episode on the bottom.--Narutonerd123 (talk) 23:37, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

It's not canon--Elveonora (talk) 23:42, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

Dark Naruto image discussion
Which one is better: the current one or my proposal ? I am simply wanting to see what the community thinks since I found the current one to be quite blurry in the lightbox. --Speysider (Talk Page) 16:55, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually there's almost no difference except the current is closer. (add) They are almost of the same quality. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 17:01, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * The proposal one seems alright.--White Flash Samurai Symbol.svg Talk 19:36, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * The current image looks a bit blurr to me. So I am with the proposed image. —¤ S @lil ¤ Uchiha Symbol.svg (T@lk) 15:05, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, the proposal seems better. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 16:15, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Revival
Bringing this discussion up again, which image is better for use ? I still feel the existing one is blurred. --Speysider Talk Page 13:26, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Unknow Jutsu
What is the Jutsu that Naruto still hasn't completed yet? I know Jiraiya told him not to do it and when he got the Key to the Seal he was told he could complete it now.

It's the tailed beast ball? Right? 166.147.89.155 (talk) 02:37, May 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not the Tailed Beast Ball as Killer Bee tried to teach him that. We currently don't know what it is as it's not named on this page.  Joshbl56  03:33, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure Jiraiya told him 'not to use that power', i.e Kurama's chakra. About all we know about this unknown technique is that Minato created it, laying the foundation on which Jiraiya and Naruto would further develop it, and that to use it Naruto had to first gain control of Kurama's chakra. Skitts (talk) 04:18, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto and the war
I've been watching the anime and in it Naruto is aware of the war. But is he aware of this fact in the manga?--
 * He knows there's going to be a war if I remember correctly. He didn't know that it had started already though.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 22:25, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

wind nature missed up
like it says where naruto's wind nature is its all weird and i dont know how to fix it can someone help??67.54.176.39 (talk) 18:05, July 4, 2012 (UTC)NaruFan
 * Probably a code problem brought on by the recent update Wikia is performing on the software. They usually synch their version with the most current version of the software from time to time. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:21, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

It will fix itself, I see it as well--Elveonora (talk) 18:31, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Japanese Alphabets -- Names
Under Naruto's "profile picture" is a list of his name and nicknames, and after each name is the Japanese-alphabetical name in parentheses. Just curious, why is "Uzumaki" written in Hiragana while "Naruto" is written in Katakana? --Kinggraham11 (talk) 22:03, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Jinchuuriki Vs. Heritage
Given Kabuto's recent statement that members of the Uzumaki clan have high vitality, longevity, and strong regenerative capabilities, is it possible that Naruto's accelerated healing is his own natural ability, rather that a result of being Kurama's Jinchuuriki? If memory serves Kakashi was the only one to say that it was the nine-tails, and it may have just been a theory.
 * Both add up to it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:01, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, many brought this up before. I believe such as well. Kakashi doesn't have much knowledge about Nine-Tails, and Naruto regenerated even with Kurama's chakra completely suppressed ... Kurama's chakra might have amplified the healing factor, but I don't think it makes sense for it being purely from him.--Elveonora (talk) 23:04, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sage mode update
Hello, since I don't have option to edit Naruto article could some one add to Senjutsu that he can by touching someones chakra he can sense horrible secrets that users are hiding or better read the truths from the user. Latest Anime episode introduced this ability while Shibi had shadow jutsu holding him, Naruto then sensed the war memories from Shibi and suddenly did know what they are hiding from him.86.50.115.56 (talk) 14:24, August 18, 2012 (UTC) Thanks Jeroi
 * Naruto didn't sense a "secret" he used the Sage Mode's ability to "sense" and saw what was happening on the battlefield. The same way he was wondering where Kakashi was when he returned to Konoha. This time we just got to see what he senses when in Sage Mode. The Nara's jutsu had nothing to do with it. Also, Shibi is an Aburame, he doesn't manipulate shadows.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:47, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sensory abilities, the same as when he tracked Nagato with the usage of that rod--Elveonora (talk) 15:10, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, when we are at it, how isn't Naruto listed as a sensor ? O_O--Elveonora (talk) 15:12, August 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 5
 * Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 8
 * Talk:Jiraiya/Archive 3
 * Mr. Anonymous --15:27, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

I know this issue has been raised twice on naruto's talk page and once on Jiraiya's so i dont want to start another section, but...Naruto sensing whilst sage mode is activated is just as "conditional" as a Hyuuga sensing while the Byakugan is activated. I know adding him as a sensor has been shot down by alot of the higer ups on this wiki but regardless is regardless, he can sense. --Kiriako (talk) 15:53, August 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * If that were to hold true then every shinobi should be considered a sensor because most if not all have shown some level of sensory ability. Thus the classification has to have some sort of parameter. Yes he senses but it's a by-product of being in Sage-Mode and using natural energy or else perceiving someone's negative emotions.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well if it were to hold true then we would classify no "true" sensor as an actual sensor because all shinobi show the inate ability. The parameter, i assume, would be a certain degree of sensing ability and Naruto definetly shows that. Like I mentioned above, the Hyuuga's sensing abilty is a by-product of activating the Byakugan just like Naruto's is a by-product of activating sage mode. --Kiriako (talk) 16:06, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

I believe you are mistaken. I don't think I would ever classify a Hyūga as a sensor in the sense that this series uses it because what they use is sight; that is not sensing, it is plain and simply seeing. Even Karin's explanation of Inuzuka's being sensors in the anime is ridiculous to me. Sensors have the ability to naturally sense chakra around themselves using the assumed Chakra Sensing Technique or in Karin's case- the Mind's Eye of the Kagura, unlike Naruto who has to enter either modes to exhibit sensory abilities. Are we supposed to list him then as "Sensor~sometimes"? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:12, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

By that logic alone, Karin isn't a sensor because she has to use her power/technique to detect, and with her chakra turned off she can't. Naruto has sensory abilities in both Sage and Kurama/Rikudou modes, and even these powers were the reason for the Alliance could fight the Zetsu Clone Army--Elveonora (talk) 16:15, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Karin's explanation is not one for you to argue, it is a fact stated by the author. Ao is listed as a sensor and the fact is he can only sense due to his use of the Byakugan. I wont argue anything, I only look for some consistency in listing one person as something but not another even when their situations are the same. --Kiriako (talk) 16:20, August 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid both of you are mistaken again. Who do you know that can use any ability that requires chakra with their chakra turned off? All shinobi abilities require the use of chakra so I don't understand what you're trying to say Elveonora. As for the Ao bit, Ao was listed as a sensor because of chapter 464, page 12 or there about, 473 page 12, and the fact that he was made Sensor Division captain where he has yet to use the eye. Inconsistency would only arise from listing every person with a sensory method as a sensor.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:33, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see this discussion going very far without asking one question. What abilities would warrant in classifying a shinboi as a sensor?--Kiriako (talk) 16:47, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Why does it matter that he has to use "modes" ??? sensory ability = sensor. Kyubi's chakra/Sage Mode = a power. A sensory technique = a power. There's no difference, the "temporary" arguments holds no value as no ninja can sense 24/7/4/12/365--Elveonora (talk) 22:52, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

The use of natural sensory abilities, right now we have the broad unbrella'd Chakra Sensing Technique and Karin's unique ability. As I've said before- and I don't know whether or not this is for everyone- but some sort of parameter has to be set to classify someone as a sensor. Going outside that would mean classifying Gaara as a sensor despite the fact that if he has no sand, he's as much a sensor as I am.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 08:39, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't say Gaara is a sensor lol. But Naruto's "sensory' abilities were a key against Pain and Zetsu, not to mention stated to surpass most sensors.--Elveonora (talk) 15:49, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Slimming down the abilities section
As i'm skimming through some of the talk pages, i bumped into Sasuke's where one of the editors complained over the excess of somewhat useless references and somewhat boasts of Sasuke...that's fair and all, it was a bit too much on some aspects...now we view the same problem with Naruto...fine he's the main character and all, but some of his ability sections are too much...more specifically his intelligence part...since when does a character has so much that we have to split it into two sub-sections...not even characters such as Orochimaru, Kabuto and Tobi, who are master manipulators, tacticians and scientists, don't have this much clutter on their sections, neither should Naruto, who despite being not being the idiot of the start of the series by far and being a skilled planner in his own right, intelligence is not his top point. Any opinions? Darksusanoo (talk) 23:30, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

I'm OK with the changes. Edit: even though Naruto isn't the wisest, he isn't the dumbest anymore. The section is likely to portray his growth in intelligence over time.--Elveonora (talk) 23:50, August 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * And i pointed that out...but against other characters who grossely outsmart him, it isn't valid. Now any idea on how to slim it? Darksusanoo (talk) 00:02, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Something akin to "Naruto is dumb to learn and remember things, with actions driven by emotions from his hearth being above any deep thought and logic, except in battles when he has shown to have some level of tactical and analytical capability.

Dunno O_O--Elveonora (talk) 00:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

The thing with Naruto is that for him, being the protagonist, we have a much greater pool of information to list. I think the reason he has two sections is so that his progress in both can be properly shown without it constantly shifting the aspect of intelligence being explained. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:11, August 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * And i understand that, but even so it's too much...but if you have another idea, i'm all ears...Darksusanoo (talk) 01:17, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Omnni, it's hard if not impossible to slim down some people's abilities sections. For Sasuke when I took stuff out that was either entirely wrong or irrelevant. Otherwise from that, his abilities section remained the same. Sometimes, it can't be helped other than trying not to account for every small detail and limiting examples of the said ability.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 12:00, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Versions 1 and 2
So...... Should we just give up the idea of naruto in control of version 2 or 1? Huhhhhhhhhh......... I hate the yellow form too, even the 2nd one. Version 2 and 1 was so much sexier. Should we give up on it? Please don't delete.--24.166.174.117 (talk) 19:40, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

This isn't a forum--Elveonora (talk) 22:36, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Appearance Section Image?
Where is the full body shot image of Naruto that USED to be in the "Appearance" section? Sparxs77 (talk) 05:39, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's somewhere on the wiki. But apparently it was changed for an image of Naruto's various forms which I don't understand...--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:48, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can we please switch it back? The whole point of the appearance section is his appearance...93.186.16.243 (talk) 13:04, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with this sentiment. Only three frames actually show Naruto's "growth" appearance-wise and there's already an image of him as a child in his article.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:27, September 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I changed it back to the Part 1 and Part 2 image.Sparxs77 (talk) 15:03, September 19, 2012 (UTC)

Stats
If you look at Naruto where he is at in the Manga the databook on the wiki does not represent him at all 26 in total what?
 * Kishimoto makes those stats, they're only published when there's a databook. Last databook covers only up to Sasuke's fight with Itachi, before learning the truth about the massacre. People ought to know that by now. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:48, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ok sorry for making you annoyed I didn't know.

Shadow clone strength
Is it ok if we made it say that his shadow clones had grown stronger as well, as shown in the fourth great shinobi world war, please? Justin Holland (talk) 23:01, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make much sense to me to note that. It is a clone after all.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 01:10, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sage Mode Time Limit
During what fight was it shown that Naruto can stay in Sage Mode for ten minutes? I thought the time limit was originally five minutes.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 16:47, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * The article mentions something in the war, so it's probably out there somewhere. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:56, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

But during what part of the war? Naruto has used it at least four times during the war. Against the Third Raikage, against Madara when he threw the Rasenshuriken, when he needed to free the Four-Tails from Tobi's control, and lastly when he had a shadow clone use it while the real Naruto was in Bijuu Mode. So which part was it?--98.109.95.216 (talk) 17:26, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I dunno. That whole paragraph seems a bit oddly-put or incorrect to me. When was Naruto ever said to have mastered senjutsu? Yes he's mastered Sage Mode but senjutsu on a whole looks like it would take a greater deal of time. As for the Sage Mode limit. I can honestly never remember Naruto saying anything about how long he could stay in the mode but only the amount of techniques he could use while in Sage Mode before the chakra was used up.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:29, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So then why was it posted on the article in the first place? I mean I know Naruto has mastered Sage Mode to the point he can enter it a lot quicker but to maintain it for ten minutes seems a bit misleading.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 17:38, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * It was added because someone might have believed the info to be true. Not that I'm saying it isn't, we could very well be mistaken.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:44, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So then it should be removed from the article right? If it's not accurate information and it doesn't have any chapters to support that information, then it shouldn't be there at all.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 17:51, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * It should probably be looked up before. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:02, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I just wanted to know which part of the war Naruto demonstrated that he could stay in Sage Mode for ten minutes. But if the information is inaccurate, then it should be removed from the article as soon as possible. But if the information is in fact true then what chapter did he demonstrate this?--98.109.95.216 (talk) 18:23, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Can we say Sage Mode even has a time limit, it is more like when Naruto uses up the Sage Chakra that he loses Sage Mode. NarutoRevival (talk) 18:40, October 21, 2012 (UTC)NarutoRevival

It's been stated by Fukasaku that you can only maintain Sage Mode for five minutes. He confirmed this in chapter 420 of the manga and episode 157 of the anime. I'm just pointing out that someone posted on the article claiming that Naruto can maintain it for ten minutes during the war, I just want to know if this information placed on the article is true otherwise it needs to be removed if it's false.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 19:04, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think someone confuse Tailed Beast Mode with Sage Mode--Elveonora (talk) 19:10, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Whatever the case maybe if this information about Sage Mode is not true it needs to be removed from the article right away.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 19:21, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto was stated to could use the Tailed Beast Mode only for 5 minutes, I don't remember any mention of Sage Mode having a a specific timer, someone might have mixed up these two or something--Elveonora (talk) 19:23, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Kurama said that it would only last for five minutes because it was their first transformation but that's off topic. Fukasaku did in fact tell Naruto that Sage Mode would only last for five minutes. He said this in chapter 420 of the manga and episode 157 of the anime. But apparently someone posted on the article claiming that Naruto can maintain Sage Mode for ten minutes during the war, I just want to know if this is true, otherwise the post should be removed from the article right now if it's false.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 19:35, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So can we please just edit the page already?--98.109.95.216 (talk) 19:56, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

As long as the proper references are added, sure. It also needs to be mentioned that Naruto has worked to increase the amount of time he can stay in Sage Mode, he was shown practising that when he went after Sasuke after Pain's invasion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:17, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I already know that he was practicing to maintain Sage Mode longer during the Five Kage Summit Arc. But if it is true that Naruto has shown that he can stay in Sage Mode for about ten minutes during the war I just want to know which chapter he first demonstrated this ability. --98.109.95.216 (talk) 20:29, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Weird, in the translation of the chapter I'm reading, I don't see any mention of 5 minutes, but I take your word for that I guess... EDIT: I myself do not recall him using Sage Mode for an extended amount of time during the war--Elveonora (talk) 20:44, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So you agree with me? Even though he has used Sage Mode at least four times during the war, has it been shown that he could maintain it for ten minutes during those four times? Also check other manga translations of chapter 420 or you can just watch episode 157 of the anime.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 20:54, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. And found one that mentions 5 min. I think it's just an assumption based on the fact that Naruto trained in order to maintain it longer, so someone has estimated it to be 10 minutes now.--Elveonora (talk) 21:03, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

But is this assumption proven to be fact in the manga? Just look back at the following chapters:555,560,561,569,570,571,and 572. Up until now those were the only times he has used Sage Mode during the war. Now during those moments Naruto has only resorted to Sage Mode for those very brief tasks and during those moments even though he has demonstrated that he could enter Sage Mode a lot faster was he also demonstrating that he could maintain it for ten minutes or so? In my opinion I don't think so. So what do you guys think? If Naruto did demonstrate that he could maintain Sage Mode in those following chapters I would like some good explanations please.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 22:06, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So it's confirmed, he hasn't demonstrated maintaining Sage Mode for ten minutes during the war. Thanks for correcting that statement. But if it's possible could you also post that he can only stay in Sage Mode for five minutes? Like how it's stated in the article that he's shown that he could stay in Nine Tails Chakra Mode for most of the morning of the war. I think that's something worth mentioning.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 23:02, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Why deleted
Why was the section here deleted ? Was it inaccurate information ? --Naruto6paths (talk) 10:45, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Quality of Page
I think that the images on Naruto's page should include more epic headings under them. I mean, for Naruto vs Tobi, I think it should be just that, Naruto vs Tobi! I just don't feel like all of them really explain well enough what's happening in the picture. Also, this page in a couple of ways is majorly undone/incomplete. It is supposed to summarize Naruto's missions and experiences, but that doesn't mean even minor info should be included. E.g., Naruto's fight against Sasuke on the hospital rooftop should be included with a picture of it as well as Naruto's briefly shown date with Sakura at Ichiraku, may or may not need a picture. More images of events(canon) should be included instead of like a single picture for each flippin arc, ya know!
 * This wikia doesn't really do "epic headings" wherever the image is, the content should speak for it. As for the rest of what you're asking is impossible to do unless you want the page to load some time next year. The wikia is not a substitute for you watching or reading the actual series.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 21:56, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

something strange
When kurama gave chakra to kakashi and Gai their injuries were not healed and kurama's chakra has the ability to heal injuries whenever it was lend to the given person, i am thinking that naruto's healing ability comes from his ownself and not from kurama. --Naruto6paths (talk) 09:56, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Guy didn't sustain any physical damage except he was bleeding a fair bit which has stopped and Kakashi does still have the x in his flak jacket but doesn't seem to be bleeding...--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:27, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Naruto Acadamy
Ok I have a question: Correct me if I am wrong but it did state that Naruto fail the graduation exam two times. I asked my friend and he said that he must have taken it early...Why didn't Sasuke take it early? We all know he would have. And Naruto is younger than most of his classmates. How did he fail twice but is still younger than his graduating class? --Click this black link to go to my Talk page (talk) 03:44, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * These aren't the types of questions that should be asked here, it isn't a forum. These aren't even the things people should be over-thinking so much. If you like, we have an answers wikia you can pose the question to.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:46, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Cloak of Invisibility Technique
Is there a reason it is not on either Naruto or Konohamaru's skill lists? Naruto clearly uses it to give his pursuers the slip in episode 1.

Unless the person is a particularly notable user of the technique eg. Shisui of the Body Flicker, 1000 transformations Kazan, we don't list users of general use ninja skills. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 20:15, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Usuratonkachi
Can 'Usuratonkachi' be included in the infobox? Just wondering. KazeKitsune (talk) 00:57, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Whut's thaaat?--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:50, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

He is just trolling... it's what Sasuke used to call Naruto, a useless clumsy idiot/dumbass. I don't think we should list that as his title/nickname lol--Elveonora (talk) 22:36, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * But Sakura and Ino had nicknames like Dekorin (forehead girl) and Ino-buta (Ino-pig) respectively. So why not Naruto? KazeKitsune (talk) 22:53, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Trying to come up with a good anti-argument... O_O someone help me, I had no idea till now that Sakura and Ino have those things in their infobox--Elveonora (talk) 22:59, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * If that was used more than once, and exclusively to Naruto (unlike, let's say, "scaredy cat", which both Sasuke and Naruto called each other at some point), and if it's properly referenced, fine by me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:13, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Chakra Transfer technique
You might want to put in something about Naruto's new Chakra Transfer tech. Your thoughts? Justin Holland (talk) 22:11, January 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Chakra Transfer Technique isn't unique, but mentioning that Naruto can no do it like a Tailed Beast is fine.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 22:15, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Wasn't it an instance of Naruto using chakra transfer when he helped Chiyo revive Gaara?--Elveonora (talk) 10:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

cleanup idea
It's pointless to have this when a redirect to Naruto Uzumaki's Jinchūriki Forms would be more than enough, don't you think? Why to have noted the same thing twice?--Elveonora (talk) 12:55, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Removing it completely won't be right... Maybe we could shorten it more.~ Ultimate  Supreme  13:00, January 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep, shortening. "As a host of Kurama, the Nine-Tails, Naruto benefits from this and that, refer to his jinchuriky transformations article for more information" or something akin to that.--Elveonora (talk) 13:04, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * One line and repetition of the ?
 * It should have atleast a paragraph of good quality, maybe similar to what is in its Relationships section.~ Ultimate  Supreme  13:26, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that was just an example that I have used. That goes for jinchuriky section. Overall, his whole abilities section should be streamlined. For example, I don't think we should note him making a Rasengan without Shadow Clones or two of them at once WITH Kurama's chakra (this should stay purely in host forms article) the reason for this is because everyone with Kurama's chakra can do things they couldn't before. It's not Naruto's own skill--Elveonora (talk) 13:42, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Chakra Prowess
There's a section in Sasuke's article detailing his Chakra Prowess.

Don't you guys think that Naruto's article needs to have a section like that?--Itachi7000 (talk) 01:20, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. -- The Goblin  10:08, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

The points:
 * being able to change chakra signature into another
 * capable of throwing chakra orb (Rasenshuriken)

Do not these two deserve a mention? The first sounds like something rare/unique, so does the latter, Fukasaku was even surprised how did he manage to do it--Elveonora (talk) 20:25, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Correction to many pages
The correction I am speaking of is the Drilling Air Bullets listed under ninjutsu that Naruto can use. It says it is only used in a game. I think they are talking about Ultimate Ninja Heroes 3, where he can use Wind Release: Air Bullets, not Drilling Air Bullets. It should be changed to such, since the Naruto, Drilling Air Bullets, and Air Bullet page are all incorrect. I am not sure how to change it, so I am posting this so someone else will. 192.183.30.172 (talk) 02:50, January 29, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 * The customisable wind technique Naruto can use in that game actually is Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet, the kanji are the same. The reason it shows in Naruto's infobox is due to a software but in the extension used to make the infoboxes, something not easily fixable from our end. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to correct you, but I have the game on right now and it is Wind Release: Air Bullets. There is a separate page for air bullets. the only one who uses the drilling air bullet is the one tails. BUT since you say it is difficult to change, I won't ask you to correct it. Just please realize that it is in fact on the wrong page. Thanks! 192.183.30.172 (talk) 05:56, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 * And if you would bother looking at the article on that technique, you would see that Air Bullet is how the name of this technique was translated in English, for example, on TV. We add different translations if they differ between themselves. I have seen screenshots of the game in Japanese, and the kanji are the same. There's a reason we go to lengths to have the kanji of techniques, so we can get proper translations. Viz does a good job on dialogue, but the name of stuff sometimes gets change so instead of accuracy, it's either better sounding or simpler to understand. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:47, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

ok lets just mention pure logic. which is more likely: naruto using a technique that only the one tails can use or the one that is listed as a wind style jutsu that could technically be learned by anyone? come on. if you dont understand that there is a page for wind style air bullets here it is. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Wind_Release:_Air_Bullets simple enough. 192.183.30.172 (talk) 21:23, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam
 * That is an unnamed technique article. When manga or anime shows a technique without naming it, we create the article on the technique using a descriptive, generic name for it. That article in question was created when Nagato used that in an anime exclusive sequence, in March, last year. The game in which Naruto used the technique was released in 2009. And also, I should remind you: Naruto used the technique in a game. If you search for the kanji for other custom techniques from that game we also have articles on, specifically "雷遁・雷震閃" and "水遁・大鉄砲玉", you will find sites that list the kanji for custom jutsu certain characters can use. Among them, you will see the kanji for Shukaku's Wind Release technique. And to put the final nail on this topic: here is a thread in a forum, with screenshots of the game in Japanese (the forum is in Chinese, the screenshots are in Japanese). In the second image below the character selection screen, where custom jutsu are selectable, you will see the kanji for that Wind Release. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:39, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

It can have the same kanji and still have a different meaning. the names are so similar that they would probably have the same one. i dont know much about the japanese language, but this is the case with basically every language ever. but thats all i feel like arguing on this one case. Try not to base your whole argument on only one thing. 192.183.30.172 (talk) 21:58, February 4, 2013 (UTC)Adam

Taijutsu benchmark
So, looking through some recent changes to the article, I noticed someone readded a sentence to Naruto's taijutsu section, mentioning his taijutsu performance against Itachi. I know Itachi is great and all, but since when does he figure as a taijutsu benchmark? Itachi hardly has any taijutsu feats to reliably make him something to compare taijutsu aptitude with. If you want to go with databooks stats, yes he's skilled, but so is Orochimaru in genjutsu. I recall removing something like that last year. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:56, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Sharingan user + high taijutsu score = fast.--Elveonora (talk) 21:01, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

High taijutsu score means skill, not power. Sharingan itself isn't speed, just perception. I get the speed argument though, but those are not quite the arguments to make for it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:39, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Naruto's taijutsu is certainly above average, just look at people like Shikamaru, Ino and pretty much his peers, I'm yet to see them do some serious taijutsu fight... the only capable are Lee, Choji, Sakura, Hinata and perhaps Kiba (R.I.P. Neji) and the only one who can equal him in terms of physical strength and speed is Lee. But not to talk only about strength and speed, his fighting style/technique also matters... he knows frog punches and kicks and **** Being equal in taijutsu to not-ill Itachi who has a Sharingan thus can follow and predict movements speaks for itself alone, but if that's not enough for ya, then take into consideration the above as well, so... Oh, he also managed to keep up with Pain in his base mode for a short while and deflected Sasuke's kunai meant to kill Sakura--Elveonora (talk) 22:16, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not trying to downplay Naruto's taijutsu, I'm just saying that comparing it to Itachi's doesn't feel like the way to sell it. It's like saying pizza is good because the dough is tasty. Pizza is good, but dough isn't what gives it flavour. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:21, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Background
The "background" - part of this side looks horribly deplaced. could somebody fix it so there is not such a giant gap?94.135.138.160 (talk) 23:53, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Click "show" on the content section between the introduction and the background sections. Other than doing that, we can't help you.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:37, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * amazing, it worked! xD94.135.138.160 (talk) 13:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Bio section
I don't usually edit on this Wiki (I visit on occasion though), but the bio section for Naruto is ridiculously detailed and long. I'd suggest cutting it down considerably. People seem to forget that since the series is about Naruto's life, the summaries of what happen in the arcs is essentially what happens to him. I think it would be best to summarize the main points of the Arcs, and refer the reader to the main articles for additional information. Some parts of his bio seem to go on endlessly about innocuous information. I haven't even read the whole thing because its just way too much information. --Ketchup Revenge (talk) 06:48, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Fireball ?
It says on the jutsu bit that naruto can do the fireball technique im pretty sure thats wrong. unfortunately i dont know how to change it.. --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 22:34, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think they forgot to add the ~game only thing. He can do it in Dragon Blade Chronicles. You are correct, though, since he can't actually do the jutsu. I'm not sure how to change it either, but could whoever knows how to do it add the ~game only thing on the page? Adam10003 (talk) 22:42, February 10, 2013 (UTC)Adam

even if its in the game its still wrong as naruto could never do that ... do we still leave it in ? --Keep Calm And Call Kakashi (talk) 22:47, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

yeah its okay to have that in there. there are plenty of jutsu that werent shown in the manga and/or anime. lots of the jutsu they can use in games are listed. I think they are supposed to include the ~game only thing though. Maybe its only on the jutsu page? im not sure. Adam10003 (talk) 22:57, February 10, 2013 (UTC)Adam

If a character uses a technique in a game wwe list it, regardless of if they couldn't in the Anime/Manga. Oh the reason it shows up despite bein' a game technique is because there's some kinda bug or coding problem.199.27.76.23 (talk) 23:04, February 10, 2013 (UTC) Yomiko-chan

look, this topic again...--Elveonora (talk) 23:09, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Tabs in articles
I have an idea about having tabs ('Introduction', 'History', and 'Abilities') for long character articles (i.e. Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, etc.), like these examples (,, and ). What do you guys think? KazeKitsune (talk) 22:19, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

I like this idea.--Deva 27 22:58, March 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad you like! The only thing is that I don't how to get it done. Anybody know how? KazeKitsune (talk) 01:09, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * When you mentioned tabs, I thought it had something to do with the tabber extension we use for tabbed images in infoboxes, but from what I can glance at, what those sites did was simply a fancier version of what we do with archives. It's a sub-page of an article, created in it's namespace (for example, "Naruto Uzumaki/Abilites" and "Naruto Uzumaki/History"). Same thing anyone in this wiki has done to make a personal sandbox or page. ShounenSuki's translation pages, my elemental recomposition table, it's pretty much the same, but done in our user namespaces. They're completely separate articles. Basically, we'd do what we did to jinchūriki transformations to a much bigger part of the article, and then add a fancy template with links to it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:25, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why do we need tabs? We already have a TOC for easy navigation and if you think size is a problem, you can make sections collapsible.~ Ultimate  Supreme  04:29, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I still prefer tabs. Anyone else? KazeKitsune (talk) 05:14, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not too sure what I think about this, not a fan of the whole tabber because from an editor's point of view, it's a lot more to manage but conversely, it's supposed to help persons who take longer to load pages right? At the same time, it is really that hampering that it requires this? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 05:34, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't that hampering. I can load the entire Naruto page within a minute even from a very slow connection from my mobile. And thats the reason why collapsibles exist in the first place.~ Ultimate  Supreme  06:57, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * A tabbed article using the code would actually be a good idea imo. --Speysider Talk Page 08:12, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Using won't do any good. The page would have to load fully and then it would be converted into tabs. It would only disturb the flow and format of the article and defeat the purpose of TOC.~ Ultimate  Supreme  12:01, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Naruto has Gyuki's chakra?
It has recently come to my attention that in chapter 496, when Gyuki tried to pull Kurama's chakra from it, the fox sliced off Gyuki's tentacles and absorbed back not only its chakra, but some of Gyuki's as well. Even in the shippuden episode 245 had displayed that. Does that mean Naruto already has Gyuki's chakra? KazeKitsune (talk) 10:08, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've always considered that he had. If it's not mentioned in the article, it's probably to play it on the safe side. Also, avoid links. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:53, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

You are forgetting that Gyuki was present during the fist bumping party as well, it didn't require Kishi to draw a panel of it telling Naruto it's name since he knows already. He has chakra of 8 tailed beasts, Shukaku's is missing, unless he managed to absorb some of it's chakra during the forehead incident with Gaara in Part I. ;D--Elveonora (talk) 23:22, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * We have seen Naruto and B fist bump and stuff, but Gyuki didn't give him the chakra personally through a fist bump, he might have already gotten it by accident as I mentioned it from above (there were other tentacles lying about in Naruto's subconscious in chapter 497 and Kurama might have absorbed them after the fight in chapter 499). Plus, Naruto hasn't even said Gyuki's name, only its nickname "Hattsuan" in chapter 598 page 6 (its real name only appeared within Kurama's flashbacks of the Sage of the Six Paths), so we STILL don't know if he already knows. Naruto didn't recieve Shukaku's chakra nor did it give some to him willingly; besides it still hasn't come to terms with Naruto like the other tailed beasts had yet. KazeKitsune (talk) 23:48, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Tools
OK first off he never owned Chakra blades. Asuma lent him his once so that shouldn't be their. and second when did he ever use a sword? (Evilpuppy (talk) 04:14, March 16, 2013 (UTC))

He trained using one. But you may be refering to the one that He used in the 4th Shippūden Movie. Though I can't remember when He wielded a sword at the moment.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 04:51, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

I've never seen the 4th movie so I'll have to take your word for it. but what about the chakra blades? (Evilpuppy (talk) 18:47, March 16, 2013 (UTC))
 * What do mean "what about the Chakra Blades"? I just said He used Asuma's for training a little in the Manga, and for like 3 episodes in the Anime. He used them enough and (eventually) showed enough skill with them, for Him to be list as a user of them. In the 4th Shippūden Movie He also used a special type of Chakra Blade, which He also showed skill with. I dunno when He used a Sword.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 20:08, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, like I said I've never seen the fourth movie. I thought you were just talking about the sword. (Evilpuppy (talk) 04:13, March 19, 2013 (UTC))
 * There's an archived discussion about that somewhere, don't recall if in the tool, character or episode. I don't recall the reasoning behind it, but it was obviously decided not to list him. If I had to guess, maybe something about the way he used it. We don't list B as a Kubikiribocho because of something like that as well. And we waited until Kakashi had actually used to sword to list him as well. It's not just a you touched it, you wielded it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:05, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

You sure Omni sensei? So why is Gaara listed as a user of Johyo ???--Elveonora (talk) 12:34, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's only a guess, I remember the discussion, not the details of it. And anyway, as a user pointed out in an edit summary, Naruto used the blades in an OVA, so that counts as anime. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:38, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

I'm talking about the sword, I'm okay with blades. Just realized it's game only and as we know erroneously showing up in his infobox while it shouldn't I guess. Thought he held one in anime/ova for a second and as a response to ur "holding =/= using" I wrote the above and questioned Gaara's usage of that rope since he only demonstrated it, never attacked anyone (I think) and that brings another topic, should Gaara be listed as a user of Johyo at all? It looked more like gymnastics to me--Elveonora (talk) 16:00, March 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * If he had the skill to instruct someone on it's use and demonstrate, he should be listed. --Questionaredude (talk) 16:04, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Gaara shouldn't be listed as a Johyo user, he's listed as such? Great, now I have to periodically click "expand" in the tool use section of infoboxes to see if someone is a user of something they shouldn't be. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:16, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

So if I hold a sword and swing without managing to cut myself in the process, does that make me a Kenjutsu specialist? They are ninja, fast reflexes and precise movements, what he did could be done with laces if he wanted or a jump rope EDIT: @Omni, glad u agree--Elveonora (talk) 16:21, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Chakra Flow
Shouldn't Chakra Flow be counted as a Jutsu? (Evilpuppy (talk) 04:23, March 19, 2013 (UTC))

No. Just like how Shape Transformation and Genjutsu aren't Jutsu, neither is Chakra Flow. It is a type of Jutsu.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 04:33, March 19, 2013 (UTC)