Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31559538-20180711211343/@comment-33959444-20180718115529

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: How? Ashura's shinsu senju looked the same to hashirama's (size), provided the same attack force (according to what i saw) ..i guess you're denying it because Indra is the son of Hagoromo ;_;...sage art attacks worked on a ten tails jinchuriki, this guy isnt even one...he gets stomped. Same size literally doesn't mean anything. Again, by that logic, Naruto's Six Paths Kurama Avatar is equal to normal Kurama. Same attack force is complete head canon. It was enhanced by Six Paths Chakra. Your logic is flawed. That's like saying that Hashirama can beat Rinnegan Sasuke with Sage Art because he's not a Ten Tails Jinchuriki.

It's not Logical either to think that he's stronger than Hashirama just because he's the son of Hagoromo. A son of Hagoromo had like 10% talent in ninjutsu anyone (well not really anyone) would've beaten him if he hadn't gotten six paths power... It actually is logical. The son of a God is most likely stronger than a descendant of his brother. And, that's a flawed comparison because it's literally stated that Indra was a genius, unlike his dunce brother who was Ashura.

Oh hell nah dude..Madara's susanoo is way bigger...Naruto's kurama mode, when standing on it's hind legs had the same size as sasuke's susanoo..re-check Madara's susanoo size. So...that's not my point. My point is that Sasuke's PS is stronger than Madara's, yet according to you, it's way smaller. Also, why is it that you only responded to this example and not the Kurama example?

Well Naruto still wanted him to come back...alive. Maybe he was over exaggerating on his words there. It might be an exaggeration, but it shows that "not wanting to kill him" isn't the same as holding back a tremendous amount.

Well we're gonna say he's stronger than Madara..he has all of what Madara has plus more techniques.Hope the skill and stamina is there tho. Well the mode is definitely weaker, cuz it was shown to be clashing with Indra's susanoo....Indra's susanoo could'nt even do shit to Shinsu senju, i guess that's one way to look at it. I believe the episode was filler but the story was kinda there..would VIZ even make up that entire story? ;-; 1) The episode was filler and it was stated that Kishimoto didn't have time to implement it into the Manga so he allowed the Anime studio to do it, but the filler at times doesn't make sense. For example, the Kaguya filler arc shows Hagoromo using Chidori, a technique Kakashi invented. The Ashura-Indra filler arc showed Ashura using Rasengan, something Minato invented. 2) Again, Shinsuusenju was Six Paths enhanced.