Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-34700383-20180829221210

@vladosaurus

I agreed up until you said Naruto used rsm against Momoshiki. There’s nothing to support that. Rsm requires rikudo senjutsu, just like all sage mode require their respective senjutsu.

You then said rsm has nothing to do with a cloak, unfortunately that also isn’t supported. Naruto’ rsm cloak isn’t to be mistaken for a kurama cloak. Look at Naruto in 4th databook, then look at Naruto in the last guide book. They look different, and if you read both pages you understand that they also have different powers. 4th databook says Naruto needed a chakra larger than kurama, the last guidebook says Naruto only used kurama mode and sage mode.

You no longer have to guess. That is the difference between his forms. Whenever Naruto uses kurama mode(and it’s variants) he will always resemble the design of the last. When there’s juubi’ chakra involved he looks different and like that of rsm depicted in 4th databook.

You can also use minato’ kyuubi chakra mode as a point of reference. As he’s only ever been the jinchuriki of kurama. If Naruto’ chakra cloak resembles minato’ own they are using the same power, kurama. So the difference is clear as day, that difference being rikudo senjutsu.

Furthermore, Kurama admitted his power alone isnt enough to produce juubi’ chakra. Which was affirmed by the databook when it mentions Naruto’ kick. Point here is Naruto waited until enough juubi chakra was produced for him to enter rsm.

Claiming he can enter rsm with just kurama is contradicting the manga and databook.

I didn’t subliminally claim anything. Naruto has lost his juubi chakra, he also lost the 8 biju fragments needed to produce that juubi chakra. In a boruto episode Gaara was contacted by shukaku, which is important to note because Gaara admitted to not having shukaku inside him. Shukaku then confirmed that his connection to Gaara is the same that he has with Naruto. This confirms Naruto not having any remaining chakra from those 8 fragments. In fact the last time Naruto used all 9 biju chakra at once was to undo infinite tsukuyomi. This cane after his final fight with Sasuke. Outside of reentering rsm, there’s no evidence that Naruto used any of the 8 fragments during the fight. It was kurama that said he ran out of chakra, not the other 8. So Naruto had some amount from them remaining, which proved enough to undo the genjutsu.

Time passes and we get to shikamaru’ novel. The events in this novel lead up to the last movie according to the official timeline. In the novel those 8 fragments are called vestiges. After looking up the definition of the word, it most basically means unusable. But as I said shukaku’ conversation with Gaara confirms that the fragments are nonexistent inside Naruto. He uses those fragments and combines their power with kurama to produce rikudo senjutsu. This allows him to enter rsm as we saw during the 4th war.

Also those 8 fragments aren’t able to regenerate, because they are amounts of chakra, not actual biju. The same way Minato sealed fragments of kushina and his own chakra inside Naruto, those fragments can’t be replenished. The same way Naruto handed out kurama chakra cloaks to the alliance during the war. All those people were unable to replenish their fragments of kurama chakra themselves, they required the source of that chakra, which was Naruto, to share more for those fragments to return to its normal levels.

So no, those 8 fragments can’t replenish, not until the actual biju them selves send more chakra to Naruto, or another transfer like what obito did for Naruto happens. Also Naruto last use of those fragments was over 17 years ago, and shortly afterwards those fragments turned into vestiges. He doesn’t use them anymore, he only has and uses kurama. Which is evident given his conversation on the biju psyche plane during his time as hokage.

S.N. I can’t confirm those percentages you mentioned or the 8 fragments, so I’m curious as to how you landed on those figures.