Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-6769189-20171011134904

None of the akatsuki are Minato speed....

Kakashi talking about Narutos stamina has what to do with Genjutsu exactly? Because Jiraiya specifically stated chakra control breaks genjutsu. Disrupting the network involves slowing down, speeding up, or stopping the flow. Stopping the flow breaks the genjutsu. Read the chapter dude.

Shape and nature transformation does not equate to perfecr chakra control. When Naruto was struggling against Itachis genjutsu. Naruto didnt even learn nature transformation until almost 100 chapters later. Stop attributing a characters feat to their younger selves.

Orochimaru was Hiruzens first choice, mostly because he was Hiruzens favorite. That doesnt mean that that he is as fast or faster than Minato. You are attributing this ability to Orochimaru even though it was not stated or shown. Jiraiya was his second choice but Jiraiya had imoerfect Sage Mode while Minato had a perfect one. They were chosen more likely due to having more experience as opposed to their stats. Until you have a chapter with a quote or speed feat that put Orochimaru over Minato in speed, then its not true. Also when u say after images, are you talking about shadow clones? Because they have nothing to do with speed.

What are you not under standing about IF ENMA IS SEPARATED FROM HIRUZEN?!? IF THEY ARE SEPARATED, then Enma does not matter necause Minatos toads will keep Hiruzen and Enma separated. In this scenario, Hiruzen has to fight without Enma.

What chapter does Hiruzen run as fast as FTG? Because it wasnt in Kuchinas flashback....