Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-26773508-20150720121623

I think Sarutobi is way too hyped. Yes, it's very much possible he could beat Tobirama (who happens to be my favourite Kage, thanks to him being a master-class inventor). However, saying that "Hiruzen>EMS Madara=Tobirama" seems quite laughable, whether or not it is stated in the 4th Databook. I've also seen some people claim in some other threads that the 4th Databook also states that Obito, during the Kyuubi incident, was as powerful as EMS Madara. Now I don't know if it's ACTUALLY stated as such in DB4, so I take it with a pinch of salt. However, if that particular statement really was mentioned in DB4, then that is clearly contradicted by the manga.

Towards the end of the Five Kage Summit, Obito poses as Madara and confronts the Five Kage, telling them that they hand over Bee and Naruto, or else there will be war. During that time, Onoki tells Tobi that someone as strong and powerful as Madara could easily bring any plans to fruition i.e. he wouldn't have needed the Akatsuki to capture the Jinchuriki. EMS Madara could easily take on any jinchuriki. Heck, I'd dare say that he could take on ALL the Jinchurikis combined (with Naruto being at the level he was during the Five Kage Summit). In response, Tobi (posing as Madara) says that he suffered grievous injuries during the battle against Hashirama at VotE, which is why he's merely a "pathetic shell of his former self".

This clearly contradicts what some people claim about DB4. If so, then my previous comments are irrelevant. But if it's true, then it shows that DB4 is a joke Kishi made to troll the hyperactive fanboys. XD

P.S. Can anyone give me the links where I can read the DB4 in English? Thanks :)