Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37960523-20191227052712/@comment-34656247-20200102193902

UltimaDude wrote: By manipulating facts, you mean including the context? Staring into someone's general direction is not eye contact The page I showed you explicitly shows two panels, one containing Jiraiya's eye and the other with Itachi's ,side to side, literally telling the audience that they're making eye contact. If you can't see that then, this is the manipulating of facts i'm talking abt.

I simply disagree with the faulty premise of Jiraiya stupidly staring at Itachi's eyes at the start of the fight Sounds so convenient for Jiraiya. After Deidara got in genjutsu and was defeated, he questioned how did he get caught in genjutsu, Kisame explained it happened right from the moment he looked Itachi in eyes. You're greatly underestimating Itachi's capabilities here, you brought up the toad argument, but those toads can also be genjutsued and be controlled to slit Jiraiya's throat lmao....but wait, now i guess the toads won't make eye contact because no