Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34436445-20180604184258/@comment-34194151-20180711165214

@Legion of Zero

He doesn't have to have faced off against him. He has seen his jutsu in action and he said that Tobirama was the fastest of his time, and they very clearly saw each other fight on the battlefield on multiple occasions. He knows the hand seals to his jutsu as well, he has specialized knowledge.

You say "blah blah " experience but all your examples showed characters who had deficits in certain TYPES of experience.

Kakazu had little to no experience fighting advanced shadow clone users. His inexperience reaked. He nearly got fodderized by naruto on his first attempt with the rasenshuriken. Then his inexperience showed when he thought it was a viable strategy to basically IGNORE 3 clones lol by jumping over them. Kakazu was a novice at fighting shadow clones clearly.

Pain's inexperience with a PERFECT SAGE was clearly shown. He didn't know naruto could wield all the natural energy around him to extend the range of his punch. He also didn't know that absorbing too much sage power turns you into a frog statue. He lost 5 out of 6 of pains because of inexperience. You are just proving my point. Tactics beat inexperience lol. '''Like I'm gonna repeat myself here. In the absence of experience, like I said you can analyze the opponent in the moment and strategize and use tactics, but that assumes your opponent isn't experienced enough to see through your tactics lol.''' Neji lost to naruto because while naruto analyzed how to fight neji's x ray vision, neji still had a deficit in experience in fighting skilled shadow clone users and a jinchurki who was immune to his best move- gentle fist. Pain lost to Konohmaru because he underestimated him, which comes down to inexperience. He wasn't expecting a lowly genin kid to actually be clever. A seasoned ninja doesn't underestimate people unless its a personality flaw. The rest of your examples either follow the same trends or have examples of Plot induced stupidity that aren't worth dissecting, and i think the examples I have given are sufficient.

Yet Gaara ended Lee's career as a ninja if it wasn't for Tsunade, and yet Sasuke almost died to a sand coffin. Not good examples because Gaara had basically 0 close quarter combat skills. Madara doesn't have that weakness.

Minato isn't untouchable, he has been touched. Hard to touch =/= can't be touched.

You assume Minato can even touch him without recieving any kind of injury lol. To me, the difference in skills and experience especially in CQC is sufficient that even if Minato tags him, the fight is still far from over.