Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32624156-20170804161707/@comment-24824859-20170805021206

Vladosaurus wrote: This is just not true. Using senjutsu, or six paths paths senjutsu in this case does not mean that you automatically use SM. SM is a senjutsu.Using senjutsu means that you can use NY in your advantage.Just because the TTJ is made out of NY, it doesn't mean it's jinchuriki is automatically in SM. It's as saying that if a shinobi can use lighting release he automatically can use lightning release chakra mode. It's not like that. Sensing is gained by using SM, not senjutsu. So, let me get this straight. Madara, with like one eye ( or was blind, i don't remember) was able to react to a hiraijin, which also came from his behind, but as a TTJ, and presumably having better sensing skills could not react to a sword and to Sasuke running straight to him? Really? Nor could he react to Guy, who's speed is no where near instant? C'mon...And why didn't he sense Naruto when he kicked the TSB? Like it's a basic SM trait, sensing somebody close. And he didn't, he was surprise by his appearance. While Naruto could sense the war going all the way from the turtle island when he was in SM. And so many examples are actually popping up... No one is saying that being the TTJ is the same as SM. SM isn't the only form of senjutsu that allows the user to sense chakra as most forms of senjutsu include sensing. Juubito sensed that Sasuke was preparing Amateratsu and reacted accordingly. TTJ-Madara sensed that Naruto had obtained SPS. Therefor, TTJs are able to sense chakra. Teleportation is instant, but what you do before and after isn't. Blind Madara did not react to FTG, he reacted to Tobirama attempting to strike after teleporting behind him. You are forgetting that later TTJ-Madara performed a similar feat when he sliced Edo-Minato's other arm as the latter attempted to strike him with a Rasengan after teleporting in front of him. Having a sword teleported halfway through your gut when you were in the midst of rushing towards a person is not the same as reacting to someone teleporting towards and then try to strike you. In both Sasuke and Guy's case, they were simply too fast for Madara to do anything about it Just because you can sense things, doesn't mean you can react to anything and everything. If this was not the case, then SM/SPSM Naruto would literally be untouchable since he would react to the things he sensed, yet Blind Madara knocked away SM Naruto and TTJ-Madara's Limbo clone knocked away Naruto in his SPSM.