Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28731007-20160627161220/@comment-734582-20160703114554

9 Arts dragon wrote: If 8th Gate is excluded I don't see even 7th gate Guy putting Jiraya down frankly and Naruto is above kakashi by a lot 7th brought down Kisame, who was using far more powerful jutsu than Jiraiya ever did. it would defeat Jiraiya. Jiraiya can not enter Sage Mode if Guy enters 7th, he would be dead before he could achieve it.

Kakashi would defeat Sage Mode Naruto. Kakashi knows how he works, better than vice versa. Naruto's raw power is greater, but Kakashi's experience would allow him to ultimately deal with Naruto.

Ravenlot 27 wrote: Actually, Guy has gone into the very 8-Gate mode instantly, with all the previous gates deactivated. He just pushed himself in the spot above his heart and jumped into the 8-th Gate from the base form. This isn't instantly. He can activate up to 6th gate without doing anything. 7th requires focus and 8th requires pressing the spot on his heart (or whatever it was that he did).