Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200108083332

Left-eye Kamui and Right-eye Kamui are functionally identical, the only difference between them is the range it can be used at (and Obito's intangibility). What Kamui does is that it sends the target/object to the Kamui dimension, and this is for both eyes. Deidara was literally moving in a direction with his bird and the Kamui on his arm stayed with him.

That was a small one Kakashi was still trying to pierce him with it And the right eye swirls people in the near distance in the eye, while the left one does the hole thing

Minato's hand after using the Rasengan was left on Obito's back long enough for a Raijin mark to be placed, so I don't think it's that much of an achievement. It would be like me celebrating losing a race just because my opponent is Usain Bolt.

But Obito would be effectively killing himself if he continued to suck Nagato into his dimension whilst Nagato has touched him. Nagato would pull Obito's soul along with him into the Kamui dimension. That's why I don't think Obito would just use Kamui on Nagato. He would try, and then realise the problem and go intangible, eventually leading to Nagato's victory via stalling or shadow clones. I wasn't referring to what happened after the FTG and rasengan to the back, but before Minato uses FTG, there Obito touched him first but he was alredy attaking him, considering the swirling time he shoul've reached him

I don't think Obito has control of where he puts people in Kamui. He most likely did go inside the dimension to use genjutsu on Fu and Torune. If Obito did have control, why would he use Kamui on Kakashi and place him right next to his own intangible body parts, where Kakashi would hit him? Then why didn't he place Fuu and Torune under genjutsu in the the real word? And didn't Obito wanted to be pierced in the heart by Kakashi?

The 5th quote you used in your comment was not the same point as sucking Nagato or his clones into Kamui. It was the fact that if Obito is about to grab Nagato to use Kamui, the other clones would use Bansho Tenin and disrupt him. Ah ok then lol So it could work? Guess yes if clones can use the rinnegan, it's strange Nagato used paths and not clones, he could make more and every clone ad a mind of his own and could use all the jutsu

But I don't get it. If Obito wouldn't use Kamui because of Nagato's clones, then what would he do? Obito has literally nothing left in his arsenal to use that would even hope to take out Nagato, if you're excluding Kamui. Yes is Nagato can do the above thing Obito will be like fighting multiples Nagatos and that's it (unless he also decides to use clones?)

Danzo's Izanagi time was 1 minute, compared to Obito's 5 minutes, so chances are, he was quicker to attack Sasuke because of this. Obito literally has no reason to wait until his immortality faded, to then try and stab Konan. We have seen that Izanagi can teleport you, with Danzo fading and reappearing somewhere else. Obito would have easily teleported out of the sea of explosions and right behind Konan during his immortality, to assure victory. But he didn't, so that would imply he cannot kill during his illusion. He would have avoided the whole last skirmish with Konan as well. Izanagi teleports you in the sense that lets you chose another option, Obito couldn't fly and was in a sea of explosions he just had to tank it, like even if could have got out but didn't it's just for a forced story, Danzo clearly moved and attacked Sasuke I don't get the "Danzo had 1 min so he was quicker"

Yeah I do think that Obito's Kamui is based on distances in both the real world and his dimension. I also think thats why Kakashi was right next to Obito's intangible body parts, since Obito teleported Kakashi to Kamui in the same place where Kakashi saw his body in Kamui. So even if Obito didn't have any other control over it we agree that he could still decide to do "50 cm in Kamui world is 1 Km in the real one" and teleport away the people he swirls in?

He also has platforms and such that could be too distant for a jump or something