Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-27606758-20160114055809

QuakingStar wrote: Another point, Itachi never used Tsukuyomi on Bee, his Mangekyo wasn't even activated.. it was simple crow Genjutsu. Only a matured Sharingan User with enough skill in the Sharingan can HOPE to break out of it, even then Itachi never used the powerful version of it on Sasuke in their battle in part 2 as that version only takes 1 second and then bam it's over and the person is collapsed. Jiraiya is physically stronger than Itachi, and has more chakra/stamina that is a fact.. but that is all he has here against Itachi.

Yeah true. I used the Bee fight just to illustrate that it does take a few Seconds for him to break Genjutsu. And many people forget that the version of Tsukuyomi Itachi used on Sasuke isn't the same Tsukuyomi he used on Kakashi lol. So technically Sasuke never broke Tsukuyomi and Obito stated he wasn't serious in the slightest.

Jiraiya is stronger... but that doesn't mean he will win.