Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-38812954-20190831032416/@comment-9782468-20190916052522

No, I didn't know you were right. I in fact don't think you're right. You've given no evidence til then that you were right, instead saying "this time it'll work." Lol okay.

AMaterasu's form can be manipulated, but there's still a limit to how much force Sasuke can put behind it. In any case, you original scenario was literally just Sasuke spewing flames out in your "Category 5 Hurricane winds" which I reminded you he just didn't have the power to do, at least for a duration that would kill Naruto.

I didn't see your jutsu in the manga or anime, I see facts literally contradicting your supposed jutsu, but now I'm in the wrong for stating how it doesn't work the way you want it to? Sasuke legitimately doesn't have the reserves to force his way through Naruto's cloak, and Amaterasu will not burn through it for him.

Considering Black Zetsu is the will of Kaguya and most likely has intimate knowledge of how to specifically unleash Kaguya once the components of her chakra are there, I don't see it as an issue that BZ was able to pierce Madara. It seems most likely that it happened because BZ was bringing forth Kaguya, not because he had more power than Madara.

Your comparison made no sense. You're saying using a moment of Sasuke vs Naruto and comparing it to BZ vs Madara. There's no connection. In any case I already gave you my opinion of BZ piercing Madara.

Also during BZ vs Kakashi and Minato, wasn't he legitimately holding both of them off just fine? And then stole Kurama faster than Minato, the Yellow Flash of Konoha, could react? Keep in mind that Minato can teleport in front of 8 Gates Guy using Evening Elephant (in its fastest step), catch Truth Seeker Orbs, and teleport back out before Guy plowed him over. And BZ was able to take Kurama from him before he could react. BZ isn't some slouch.

Also again, BZ's hand stab probably isn't more powerful than Chidori. It's probably a combination of BZ basically being a weak version of Kaguya, BZ activating everything within Madara to form Kaguya, etc.

The fact that it was Obito's body that did if both times probably helped too. OBito still contained Six Paths chakra at that point, which makes it easier for him to harm TTJs.

How exactly am I a "facts machine"? I'm not creating facts. I show you evidence from the Manga and tell you how I drew my conclusions. I'm not creating facts.

Again, Obito had six paths power and also had a weak version of Kaguya attached, he's not just some human.

Ash Killing Bones is easily on another level since it disintegrates regardless of Cloaks, durability, life force, regen, etc. It's not the same as BZ bringing back Kaguya.

Again, no serious power up? Six Paths power. When Obito transfered his chakra to Kakashi, he had enough power to make a Perfect SUsanoo with the techs to severely injure Kaguya herself. BZ is not as weak as you claim, especially while hosting Obito's body.

Naruto doesn't have more chakra solely because of Kurama. If you remember, in Part 1, Sasuke had approximately half of Kakashi's chakra (Sasuke could use Chidori twice vs Kakashi's four times). But Naruto's own reserves were at least four times Kakashi's own, and Kakashi noted that if Naruto mastered Kurama's chakra as well, he could be well over 100 times his own chakra. So base Naruto has more chakra than base Sasuke. They both have more chakra than most though.