Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-44437908-20200507051002/@comment-6769189-20200513012238

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

LegionZero you got everything wrong. First naruto had kurama's chakra for defeating deep forest emergence. Yea he got some from Kurama but his eyes/face dont indicate he was using bijuu chakra and just got a refill of hiz regular reserves. Naruto is capable doing that on his own.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Like you said above new era anime is cannon so kakashi's mud wall count. The original Naruto anime wasnt part of New Era and the official timeline cites the manga as the canon version of events.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Against shin uchiha in boruto cannon counts. Not even sure what you are refereing to here

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Sakura was never a main character and if she was she is severely underdeveloped. She was a main dont get it twisted and she was developed. Went from whiney little girl to Sannin apprentice to surpassing Tsunade to being a key part in Kaguya's defeat.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Ya naruto is strongest in entire shinobi world but my point is that he depends on kurama too much. Kishimoto made him like that. Every main character relies except Sakura relies on some sort of power they got from somewhere else.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Sasuke's EMS is not an issue here the issue is that naruto does not have a kekkei genkai even though he is Ashura's reincarnate. Ashura didnt have a KKG so you dont have a point. The point of Ashura was that he literally had nothing special about him. Hashirama's strength and KKG didnt come from Ashura.

You also say Sasuke's EMS isnt an issue but you praise Sasuke's abilities but shit on Naruto's when their abilities and how they reach them are similar.

Why do you praise Sasuke's abilities even though he relied so much on Orochimaru's power or Itachi's eyes or to realy on Itachi's eyes but you give Naruto crap for relying in Kurama's?

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Ya naruto manga is about uchiha because there was uchiha massacre which has much importance than uzumaki massacre The most important event in the series was Kurama's attack on Konoha. It lead to the massacre.

But go ahead and ignore the 2 more times Konoha was destroyed or tge death of Jiraiya or any other event that impacted Naruto or made big changes to the village

The only person the massacre was truly important to was Sasuke.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

senju clan is extint without a trace only two clans who can stand against uchiha were senju and uzumaki and both were extinct without explanation. Uzumaki was explained.

You are hyping the Uchiha way too much. Only 4 Uchiha were super strong. 2 were transmigrants and 1 was heavily modified.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

You are trying to be modest and thinks kishimoto didn't did any mistake but his greatest mistake was that naruto relied too much on kurama. No his mistake was Kaguya and aliens

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

If we were to match reincarnations against each other hashirama will beat naruto if we take kyubi out of equation 6 Paths Naruto? No. He damn near killed Juubidara while cloakless SPSM

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

But sasuke can beat madara if madara was not jinchuriki of ten tails with hashi cells attached. If we are talking pre-6 Paths Sasuke then absolutely not. Without Hashirama cells Madara was just below Hashirama himself and could take on full Kurama. Sasuke was actually relying on Naruto/Kurama for power in the war and Jugo once too

Sasuke would have to be twice as strong as war arc Naruto at a minimum to match Madara