Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27233105-20160130092635/@comment-5936871-20160213075027

QuakingStar wrote: Itachi still needs to react with his eyes and mind, with his reflexes. Therefor it was not PIS, he is literally that good. Minato being faster does not mean he is so much faster, as Obito is only a tad slower than him at 14yrs old, Sasuke is a bit faster than Obito and Itachi is faster than Sasuke, but still a tad slower than Minato, not enough to make a difference. You are taking the margins in speed as being large, they are not and they are barely noticeable. Minato was even hoping he would be fast enough to trick the masked man with FTG and he ended up being barely able to do so. Kurama btw can also be subjugated by any Mangekyo user and it can even be suppressed by the normal Sharingan. Tsukuyomi can only be broken out of by an Uchiha MS user, or a power boosted Sharingan user Uchiha. Kurama will make no difference there. Itachi has the reaction time and speed to be able to deal with FTG, Itachi could take Ei out. I don't see Minato winning. So he can react a bolt of lightning, while he is sick and blinded. But he can't react to attacks from Sage Mode Kabuto? He can't react to a chakra scalpel slash or some sharp rocks from above and below (while he's not sick and not blind at all) but he can't react to lightning? It's PIS. Obito's age is irrelevant, his abilities have been portrayed to have been on the same level. His Kamui has never been noted to be much stronger or faster than before. What makes you think EMS Sasuke is faster than Obito at all? Show me where Itachi himself has shown the capabilities of subjugating Kurama easily with his eyes. QuakingStar wrote: Kurama only helps but so much. Itachi doesn't need to be as fast as Minato to win, he can react to Minato. Same way Obito reacted to Kurama Cloak Naruto AND 7 gates Gai AND Kakashi AND Bee, all vs him who clearly got faster as an adult, yet Sasuke was still faster, and Itachi still faster than Sasuke. Kurama's biggest advantage to its users out of everything is the chakra amount it gives.. as an edo that is moot. Minato's only chance is FTG combined with a sealing tech. Itachi's is genjutsu along with a sealing tech. Itachi knows about FTG and how it works, he doesn't know he has Kurama.. Minato doesn't know Itachi has MS, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susanoo or any other stuff because Itachi was only 5 when Minato died. Itachi has the advantage of intel for the most part here. Minato does not. Naruto wasn't at full speed against Obito, when he goes full speed the Manga makes that clear by having him quickly move from one location to the other and blitz people and/or intercept attacks. B didn't do much against Obito and Gai didn't maintain the 7th Gate and constantly attack Obito. Kurama's power and speed is the reason why Itachi cannot compete, didn't you read everything I just stated a few posts ago? If Minato goes TBM or even NTCM, Itachi is blitzed and smashed to pieces. His susanoo will not help him at all. What makes you think Itachi knows about FTG and how it works? @Rachin123 That isn't sad at all, in order to be able to use tecniques like that you need to be very skilled normally. Is it sad that Tobirama was hailed as the fastest of his time due to FTG as well? Or is it sad that Obito is as strong as he is because of Kamui? It doesn't matter how they do what they do. In order for them to be able to do what they do. Is what makes them so unique and such high-tier.