Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26388300-20150718023043/@comment-734582-20150721153605

KuroiToketsuHoshi wrote: Well to be fair, he also can use double rasenshuriken as a meele weapon, which has been shown to be extremely op. But again thats just a rasengan variant. Yes, but his entire fighting style hinges on a handful of jutsu, which means that if someone counters them, he's pretty much lost. Naruto was nearly defeated by Nagato, only escaping because Nagato couldn't handle Sage chakra. He already successfully countered just about everything Naruto threw at him. Naruto defeated him by the skin of his teeth.

Coming back to Sarutobi, it's interesting to note that he's first heralded as "the strongest shinobi" but when the First and Second hokage are Edo Tensei'd, they're too heralded as "the strongest shinobi". I just read the Orochimaru-Hiruzen fight and throughout he's just called Pathetic. The Anbu note that he shouldn't use ShadowClone because dividing his already low chakra would be dangerous. In the Fourth War he uses literally 2 jutsu (the barrier and a combo of Shadowclones and all 5 releases). This is all we see of this guy, hence my desire to see his true power, and what that true power is.

Another unfulfilled desire of mine is an actual, proper "the last" as i hate both the storyline, and it's actual thematic. That naruto discovers Hinata loves him through Genjutsu and then miraculously loves her too bothers me to no end. That, despite being 19, he still is completely oblivious of the entire female part of the human race also annoys me. Sakura, Sai and Kiba are always straightforward with everything but after some 5 years of seeing them bumble about, nobody bothered to just tell naruto?