User talk:Omnibender

Re: Block
Fixed. Jacce | Talk 06:13, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Protect
Fixed. Jacce | Talk 16:19, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have protected all I could think of. Did I miss any? Jacce | Talk 19:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Possible Bug
If you look here under S you will see it three times. The problem is not with the infobox, its with the data that its receiving. Simant (talk) 22:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

images.
In the yondaime page could u move the image of team minato over to the left it looks more proper that way and why arew u removing the image of team jiraiya from his page. It is important enough to be there. User/Talk:Me1

Madara Uchiha page
Madara was the actual creator of the Akatsuki. Can we agree to put creator and not just co-founder? Axel Carnage (talk) 01:35, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Akatsuki page states Madara is the founder, which is the creator. Also, Pain stated he was the founder because he didn't want to give away Madara's position at the time; Pain was more of a leader and Madara is more of a founder/creator and current leader. Axel Carnage (talk) 01:46, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just want to point out: We have no reason to believe he was lying to cover for Madara. Hell someone of Pain's level probably wouldn't have to lie. Regardless is regardless, they both referred to themselves as Akatsuki's creators.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 01:52, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

If Madara hadn't created Akatsuki, how else do you think he went from Tobi (an Akatsuki recruit who was basically a total joke) to giving orders to the "leader" in secret? Do you guys think a creator would take orders from just a co-founder? As well as Akatsuki has been around for a while and Nagato can't be more than 25 years old meaning he'd have to be in the teens when he created it and considering we saw him when he was training with Jiraiya, unless a teenager created Akatsuki in secret without Jiraiya knowing, that wouldn't be the case. In summary, Madara Uchiha is the creator/founder/benefactor/mastermind/whatever of Akatsuki. Pain/Nagato is just leader and perhaps considered a co-founder. If you believe otherwise....dunno what to say. Axel Carnage (talk) 04:09, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Because he was the brain. Two people can make an organization, but if one is clearly smarter than the other, then that one can easily be the one to call the shots.
 * Yes. That happens.
 * As far as can be gathered, Akatsuki is not that old. It at the very least is no older than twelve years old, as Madara wasn't wearing his Akatsuki robe when he met Itachi. That being said, both this and what you said are speculative.
 * It's obvious Akatsuki was created after Jiraiya left, and after Yahiko died and Nagato became Pain.
 * In summary, Madara was the mastermind (that we do know), Pain was the leader of the organization. They both said they founded the organization. So until we get a clear example instead of random hearsay, both founded Akatsuki and thus co-founders.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 04:20, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the ignorance of this wikipedia is beyond understanding. You still say that a 15 or 16 year old created Akatsuki and all the members took orders from that teenager or that Madara met a 15 or 16 year old boy and asked him to create the most powerful evil organization in the Narutoverse.

Need more proof? A (the Fourth Raikage) stated Akatsuki originated from Kirigakure which was where Madara was once Mizukage. (Hey, that sounds more logical than a 15 year old creating it).

We have also seen Nagato in his fight against Hanzo when he was about 17 - 20 years old. If Akatsuki was around 12 years old, that would have to mean it was already created at that time and considering Akatsuki wasn't created until after Nagato synced with Gedo Mazo, he couldn't have created it.

You people really need to think outside the box sometimes, not just always rely on cold hard facts. And if you must insist on relying on them, there is much more evidence that Madara created Akatsuki first, got all the members recruited, then hid in the shadows, than Nagato creating everything first. That's not to say he isn't a co-founder. Madara is the official creator with this evidence. Axel Carnage (talk) 04:39, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I said, what I said was speculative. I don't know when Akatsuki was made, but I can assume it was no older than 12 years old.
 * Pain is not a teenager, he was a teenager during the Second Great Shinobi World War. He was an adult by the time Akatsuki (again in theory) was made.
 * If you mean Madara is a teenage, then my friend you are way off. His age is unknown, but he was a man when the Third Hokage was a boy. Dude is clearly up there in years.
 * The Raikage said that Akatsuki originated in Kiri. Yes. We do not know however when. We do not know how long Madara was control.
 * Yahiko was about the same age as the rest of his team when he died, around 25-30 years of age (or within that age of each other. Only the Deva Path of Pain was given an age, approximately 25-30. Both Nagato and Konan was not.) We do not know how much time passed between Yahiko's death and the rise of Pain, but we do know Akatsuki was made after it. I'm not quite sure what you mean about the Gedo Mazo statue.
 * I do think outside the box. I just know what is speculatorygabble and what is facts based on what we actually know. What we do know is both Madara and Pain said they created Akatsuki. We know that much.
 * Can we please stop talking about this on Omnibender's page and move it to one of our Talk Pages. I am really sorry about this Omnibender, feel free the archive this as soon as possible >.>--TheUltimate3 (talk) 04:53, February 23, 2010 (UTC)