Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27660682-20160305032312/@comment-28300126-20160425184909

AsianReaper wrote: Just watched the episode again, he makes the seal right there out in the open.

So... he is a fan of hurting himself. Conditionally.

Okay, in the manga he didn't so much hold is own against Hidan, he literally didn't break a sweat. After being blasted and beaten up by Kakuzu's masks, Hidan goes to try and end Kakashi, and Kakashi answers him with just a Kunai, without even a scratch from Hidan on himself.

Zabuza was one of the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist, and their strongest generation too. He also killed over 100 trained students before he even started the academy. I know it wasn't explicitly stated, but Zabuza has earned his place in S-Class. Not only that, it seemed Kabuto only chose to revive the most powerful Shinobi, those who were S-class. So he's as powerful as them at least.

I realized Shikamaru planned well. My point is that he has no other jutsu that would have been useful. Otherwise, he would have used them. Besides, in versus debates we can only go off of what they show. Hidan showed nothing else. There's no real implication that he knows anything else.

I dunno, maybe the video I watched had something funky happen to it. I can't seem to find the moment.

Yes, conditionally.

There are two panels of their confrontation in the manga(after Kakuzu's attack). I don't think that can be considered "not breaking a sweat". Neither of them were injured, not a scratch. If Kakashi was so much better I'd assume Hidan would at least have a minor injury.

Kabuto revived strong shinobi in general. Just because a few were s-ranked doesn't mean they all were. Haku was revived too and I wouldn't ever consider him to be s-ranked.

Hidan couldn't do much anyway, being all tied up. I'm just saying you don't get to his level by being a one trick pony.

@namikazenaruto9 the hounds were used at the end of the fight because of Kakashi's need to quickly get to naruto after he unknowingly unleashed Kurama's chakra for the first time.

All silent killing is is moving quietly and striking the enemy, I mean he and Kakuzu knew that they were being followed despite the team being a good distance away and moving quietly for an ambush. Kakuzu didn't need to tell him, he already knew. Zabuza wouldn't kill him by his hearing, he just knows their location and can strike by that information. Plus he wouldn't need to just use his hearing, not like Hidan has a sharingan.