Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200110094517

Whilst Nagato has shown the ability in the anime and even more complex derivatives in both manga and anime, Obito hasn't shown the ability at all.

Edo Nagato was being controlled by Kabuto, so he did not perform as well as he could have. Nagato was even fighting himself. And to be honest, Nagato wouldn't even need shadow clones to take on Itachi, Bee and Naruto. If he was under his own control, he would have been an absolute monster. You made that point on what's canon earlier, and the anime it's not

Edo Nagato could've made clones like edo Itachi did, he was outnumbered so it's not like he didn't have reasons to create them

How is the Naraka Path thing uncertain? Think about it. Why would it only work on dead things? Was the Rinnegan designed to have a handicapped user? Don't think so. It was shown to heal bodily distortions such as missing arms and legs, and stab wounds. Nagato most likely couldn't use it on himself due to the nature of his afflictions. It's uncertain beacause it has never shown the ability to do so, the recostruction part could easly be too much of a stress on a living body, but could arguably work on someone like Hagoromo

Obito doesn't have these chakra arms to hold his soul in though. If he is busy pulling his soul into his body, he wouldn't have any hands left. I meant it like you can still use chakra while your soul is being ripped out

I went on the Wood Clone wiki, and Obito isn't listed there at all. I think the best Obito would have is Shadow Clones, given that in order to graduate from the academy, you gotta produce at least one clone. The clone that you have to make at the academi is an "illusion" type of clone, it isn't solid, the shadow version is a forbidden jutsu that Tobirama invented

Obito never showed the ability to make wood clones, and Nagato never showed the ability to make shadow clones (that it's a forbidden tecnique so I don't know why Jiraiya should've teach him that), exception for the anime where I don't know if he made and illision clone or a shadow one, but in both cases it's the anime

It doesn't matter if its a cloned Rinnegan or not. How could Itachi's clones cast genjutsu then? Shadow clones are CLONES for a reason. They are identical in every way. I'm pretty sure Itachi's clones would't be able to use any of Itachi's MS abilityes

I still think Nagato wins this match-up pretty easily. White Mask Obito is what would beat this Nagato. I'm unsure on this to be honest, like Obito with the rinnegan seemed weaker than Obito with Izanagi, I mean he had that eye basically for showings, I don't remember him using the paths abilities, exception for when he needed to do more advanced things or if you give him the jinchuriki