Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180806113144/@comment-34194151-20180808020555

@Jason, Madara is experienced enough to avoid those arms, especially if Pein and Orochimaru could. He would need to be because hashirama also spawns wood stuff out of the ground, or he wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds against hashirama. He has been shown to move while fighting, even when he is in the smaller scale susano'o. his gunbai can arguably deflect the bijuudama, and also in that form it seems to have a signifcant charge up, madara can prepare his defense or hit it with susano'o swords in that time. While the kurama cloak is corrosive, and is durable, naruto is still weak to concussive force I believe. We haven't really seen what can put down a V2 jinchuriki though, maybe yakasa matagama

As for sage naruto, madara would win. If ms sasuke and itachi are anything to go on, madara can still form the highest tier leg-legless susano'o, which still has high durability. Madara has bijuu levels of chakra, so while MS strain will be an issue he can still use it to a good extent. even naruto's biggest rasengans would have a hard time getting through that. Madara is definitely fast enough and experienced enough to avoid rasenshuriken, and more than likely wouldn't fall for the same tricks pein did. once he uses up sage mode, it should be a wrap. Madara wins like 7/10 due to pontential stamina issues though if he doesn't take naruto as serious from the beginning.