Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20160124210949/@comment-734582-20160127150111

UltimaDude wrote: How would Minato be able to create the Rasenshuriken if he wasn't able to create it's parent jutsu? Wind style: rasengan was part of the creation of Rasenshuriken. Considering it's minato's jutsu and creation we're talking about, and it's possible he was able to foresee the problems.

Though i would also like to point out: Minato is one of the few people we actually know have incomplete jutsu (e.g. his Sage Mode wasn't up to battle standards). I think people expect too much that whatever someone can do is utterly perfect; That things they try don't have dead ends (i mean, Naruto considered Sage Mode a dead end when he couldn't fuse with Fugaku, but then reconsidered when he used Shadowclone). Kakashi considered Rasengan a dead end as no Chakra Nature could be mixed in.

In the end, not a whole lot is known about the purpose of his Sage Mode. it's possible that, like Naruto, he attempted to gather Nature Energy on the move, but failed. It's possible it wasn't what he expected of it and focused on other jutsu.

By the way, Kurama Sage Mode isn't hard. Kurama was blocking it's use as he hated the idea of Naruto relying on power other than Kurama's

So did Naruto really surpass Minato before the Hag-up? Minato only ever achieved this in death, so i'm not sure why it matters that much. Minato also couldn't perform Rasenshuriken, which was supposed to be his Magnus Opus.