Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-2245550-20160501144337/@comment-2245550-20160502173001

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: itachi would never have been made hokage because he didn't had any kage level feat at that time at very best he could have been a righthand man to hokage. besides hiruzen's opinion(abt itachi) was formed only during coup detat.infact their were many others such as jiraiya, danzo,tsunade,fugaku(too some extent),kakashi etc who could have become hokage instead of itachi at that time. besides their is also a possibility that they may suspect hiruzen being under genjutsu if he suddenly from nowhere says itachi should become hokage making the things even worse for the clan. besides the only way to stop (I believe) the coup was if somehow minato had given testimony abt "madara" using kurama to attack the leaf. also all that talk abt gaara being kazekage and comparing him to itachi is useless since gaara was undisputedly strongest in his village at that time and had made quite an reputation where as same cannot be said for itachi at that time.

There are so many contradictions in that reply.

Itachi not having feats of Kage level? Then how the frick was he capable of butchering his entire clan? How come he entered the ANBU Black Ops, the best of the best, the elite of the elite, at the age of eleven? How come he had the wisdom of a Hokage at the age of seven? Sorry, but that argument is empty.

Jiraiya? He'd refuse the position. Danzo? Worst candidate for Hokage ever. I'd choose Orochimaru over him. Tsunade? Wasn't at the village, and still would've refused. Fugaku? Not only is he a bad choice for Hokage, but he also isn't Kage strong. Unsuitable. Kakashi? He wasn't at the level of becoming Hokage yet. So basically, Itachi is the best candidate, period.

Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Supreme Shinobi, The Professor, being under control of a genjutsu from a clan he's had decades of observing? Those who can testify to Hiruzen's prowess will deny the possibility of him being under any sort of genjutsu. Not only is it impossible to happen in the first place, but even if he got into a genjutsu, he'd still manage to break free from it.

The only way to stop the revolution from happening would be to either sate the Uchiha clan or eradicate them. Sating them would include making Itachi the Fifth Hokage. And the same can be said about Itachi, because even without his Mangekyo Sharingan, he's still a force to be reckoned with.

JOA20 wrote: Had you read my post a bit more carefully, you'd have understood that I proposed Kagami for the Hokage role when he was alive.

Itachi was stated to have the wisdom of a Hokage at a very young age, yes. That much is clear, but does it make him a "perfect" candidate? I wonder. His power isn't the issue, seeing how quickly he became an Anbu Captain. But what about fame and acknowledgement from the village? No one has the final say about who becomes the Hokage, except the jonin, whose approval must be sought from the Hokage Candidate. Knowing Danzō, he would've created rumours about Itachi being unfit for the role. About Gaara becoming Kazekage at a very young age: must I remind you that the Suna council named him so that he (or rather, the One-Tail) could be controlled more easily?

Even if Itachi had been named Hokage, I doubt every Uchiha would've just forgotten about the "discrimination". The revolt would've been suppressed for the time being, that much I agree on, but with a certain masked man around…

We don't know about Minato being from a nobody-clan. The main factor is that he was the disciple of Jiraiya, a disciple of Hiruzen, the Third Hokage. Not to mention his feats during the Third Shinobi World War.

Had you read my post carefully, you'd have noticed that I said "If he were alive". Keyword is "If". Focus.

The past Hokage has the final say, both in who becomes Hokage after him and in all matters concerning the village. And there was nothing Danzo could do to make the jonin lose faith in Itachi, especially with his comrades testifying for how deserving he is of the role and also how Hiruzen himself is aware of Itachi's views and conviction to the Will of Fire.

There was nothing stated about Gaara being put as Kazekage for that reason, so that argument is empty. And there's barely anything Obito could've done to make the Uchiha continue their plans, because if one of them got chosen as Hokage, they'd know they were finally recognized and acknowledged.

There was no mention of a Namikaze clan. Assuming that he had one because he was chosen to be Jiraiya's student is like saying there's a Haruno clan because Sakura got chosen to be Kakashi's student.

Thekillman wrote: Hashirama became Hokage because the village wanted it. Even though Hashirama felt Madara should take the position.

Judging from Hiruzen's memory, they were already prepping Hiruzen from an early age but the decision was delayed due to the First War.

Around the first war Tobirama became Second Hokage due to popularity.

Hiruzen's appointment isn't clear. It's possible that an agreement existed for the Shimura and Sarutobi clans (as they joined the village first) or that Hiruzen distinguished himself in the war.

The Sannin were repeatedly considered for Hokage (distinguished themselves during the Second War).

Minato was feared as the yellow flash and routed armies with his presence, so definitely distinguished himself.

Kakashi distinguished himself fighting the Akatsuki and Pain but probably the most against Obito and during the Fourth War.

What should be clear by now is that Itachi lacked something that distinguished himself as Hokage. Something that would make the village like him, consider him worthy.

And therein lies the aforementioned problem of timing: In perhaps a decade Itachi could've racked up enough reputation to be considered for Hokage. But shorty after the Ninetails attack with suspicion of the Uchiha, the Uchiha's general position weakened, he couldn't become Hokage.

Hiruzen was asked to appoint a successor early in Part I because nobody of sufficient distinction existed. Well someone existed (Jiraiya) but he refused, and Tsunade was nowhere and Orochimaru wasn't considered fit for the position (probably blocked by the Jonin council) and a rogue at this point.

If the Uchiha massacre had been delayed it could've been possible. Shisui was renowned, but mostly for his skills not his deeds.

Okay. I see your point. That is a convincing argument. I also realized that if Itachi became Hokage, there'll probably be members of the clan getting cocky and arrogant over it, thinking that now, they can do whatever they want. But when Itachi starts setting the delinquents straight, there'll be unrest amongst the clan, thinking Itachi got poisoned by the Leaf's ideals, choosing them over his own flesh and blood, which would cause the revolution all over again.

So therefore, making Itachi the Fifth may not be the best decision indeed.