Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33589845-20171107191936/@comment-32617252-20171108044321

@Asian, I didn't mean to say lose. I used the wrong word I guess. I mean to use 'had trouble with' or something like that. still counts though. like, that is a pts kakashi lvl feat... @killer, not really. sm jiraya along with only ma, pa, and another summon beat three pains (not the strongest ones, but the most hax ones) without using any jutsu, side for one genjutsu. Naruto had that, plus two other boss summons, and full intel, which allowed him to make use of his jutsu during the battle, at proper moments.. oh, and kakuzo was having trouble with ino, choji, and shikamaru by themselves at one point. it doenst seem so unbelievable to me