Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34194151-20180809224927/@comment-31672013-20180828094229

@Asianreaper Allow me to reword a bit. By far more skilled, I simply mean that from all we've seen, he has much more versatility and covers all his Ninjutsu bases better. High level sealing, barrier jutsu without a proper hand sign, the incredible versatility that the art of the raging lion's mane gives him ( full body defense, feet upon feet of steel hard cables, long range weapons, all from a single jutsu), plus all the toad summoning varients. The toad summon techniques are the main reason I give him the edge in Ninjutsu, but I am willing to say Kakashi comes very close. After all, excluding the toad techniques, he can copy most of Jiraiya's others, though again it would be to lesser effect due to smaller chakra pools. And to touch on Jiraiya's moveset being great for stalling, it seems pretty obvious to me. Swamp of the underground is a real pain, and I don't even want to think what would happen if he stacked the toad mouth binding on top of it. Plus his Lion's mane jutsu is very fast and, again, has been shown to not only hold and subdue, but easily toss around giant summons. If Kakashi gets caught in any of those 3 jutsu, it's going to take him a lot to get out, and I honestly don't believe he's getting out of the toad mouth. Swamp Jutsu itself is pretty sketchy, but his lightning blade should do it against the Lion's mane.

I will retract the Taijutsu claim. The scene I'm thinking of ( where he frigging aerial kicks all of pain's dog summons) Is, I believe, anime only. I only wish it were in the manga.

Kakashi IS definitely experienced, but Jiraiya objectively has more. Kakashi is a very prepared guy, and would no doubt do his best if he knew he were facing Jiraiya, but Jiraiya has a lot more he can show up with. If he shows up in Sage mode with 3 massive toad summons, Ma and Pa on his shoulder, and a few mid size battle/mobility specialized toads, or hell even just in base with all the toad backup, it's looking pretty bad for Kakashi.

Kakashi is a fantastic Ninja, don't get me wrong. But Jiraiya has virtually every area covered in spades, has frustrating jutsu to deal with, on top of being able to consecutively use them to trap an opponent very quickly, and enough chakra to outlast most opponents.