Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180411045857

2) its still not teleportation. It doesnt relocate him at all. It does take physical speed to counter attack. As Juubito showed vs KCM Minato, being able to get in an advantagous position doesnt mean much if the opponant is fast enough to react and counter.

3) Obito was fast enough to pull a complete 180 and hit Naruto with his fan in 595. Obito wrecked Kakashi in 1-on-1.

4) 502

5) 502. This is proof enough that Obito has the speed to hit him because if he didnt then Minato would have nothing to worry about. But Minato NEEDED FTG to escape from both of Obito's counters.

6) Naruto can control the direction of his chakra arms and he couldnt compensate for Obito's dodge.

7) Naruto's eyes were not closed, he was far and watched everything the fan did. He also had time to dodge when Obito was finessing the chain to get around Naruto. A was less than a foot away from Naruto when he RAN AROUND HIM.

8) typically if someone of a similar spees is close enough, they can land a hit. Duh. Naruto is unable to counter/dodge some of Obito's long range assaults but is still faster than Obito because he basically sucker punched Obito with his face at super close range. What kind of logic is that? You also say Obito only dodged/counter certain stuff because "he was far away" (even though arms length or less isnt far away) but naruto FAILS to dodge or counter attacks from afar. But hes faster. Riiigggghhhhttt

i already pointed out the chapters but you want to write them off as Phase-Kamui even though Kamui doesnt grant any kind of super speed or reflexes which would be necessary for the successful counters Obito pulls off. But you are just going to make poor excuses and make up stuff that the manga itself directly contradicts both through exposition and art.