Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29517168-20160328040252/@comment-142748-20160401081447

9 Arts dragon wrote: 1.No they definitely didn't.Sasuke was splitting the chibaku tenseis with perfect susano and Narutos Rasenshurikens were not destroying his meteors utterly they were only crumbling them excluding his final attack which only destroyed 6 out of 20+. Yes, they did 9 arts dragon. You're denying the feat. Sasuke split one while Naruto's Bijudama Rasenshurikens destroyed the rest. There were only six left when Madara initiated Mugen Tsukuyomi. 2.Sakura destroyed one of her horns still and yes she was boxed in but even then how are Sakuras attacks even damaging her, Naruto in base form tanked a bijuu dama in the last for example. She can destroy space times not planets actually read the viz translation not fan made ones.Although it's pretty useless since it can be evaded with teleportation. Each of her dimensions are planets. That's why they're so far away. Madara can't teleport. Naruto can't teleport. Sasuke can, but until he was an adult he couldn't jump between dimensions. We know that each of Kaguya's dimensions are planets since when she was put in Six Paths Chibaku Tensei? We see the planet they were on. So yes, Kaguya can destroy planets with the Expansive Truth Seeking Ball.

Those horns are thin and easily broken. Sakura did superficial damage on Kaguya.

4.No I'm not actually I'm using common sense they are definitely not stronger than him individually he is stronger but together they should be able to hold their own against him as they did against 1 eyed Madara. They were curbstomping one-eyed Juubi Jin Madara before they even mastered their abilities. And yes, they are, their feats show it. Two-Eyed Juubi Jin Madara fucking ran from them rather than faced them. What did Madara even do to put him on a higher level than them huh? Show a feat where Naruto and Sasuke were unable to easily counter him, since that entire encounter showed that Naruto and Sasuke had surpassed Madara regardless if he had both eyes. 5.No no he didn't Naruto destroyed 6 of them with a rasenshuriken barrage imbedded with TSB at that the rest were either split or crumbled so no Naruto did not deal with alone let alone easily at that. First, please get your attacks right. Its Bijudama Rasenshuriken. Secondly, there were only six left, Naruto had been nuking them and vaping them the entire time. Only ONE fell after being cut like swiss cheese by SASUKE, Naruto was vaporizing them leaving nothing left. Sasuke cut one of his chibaku tensei out of 20+? Ok? And if he can do it to one, he can do it to them all. Naruto nuked three at ONCE with one Bijudama Rasenshuriken. 6.Hagoromo was drained when he transferred his power to Naruto and Sasuke he told the kages he lacked chakra to do seals. Kurama was comparing Hagoromo's full power to Sasuke. Did Hagoromo ever gain a third eye as Kaguya did? That's no.... Shame that the third eye doesn't matter. Madara can't do what Kaguya could do with it. Madara's actual power, his actual feats are inferior to Hagoromo's. They were besting him while he had one rinnegan why do you keep mentioning that? Since it didn't change, wait for it, when he got BOTH. He RAN from Naruto and Sasuke! He only had one option against them, Mugen Tsukuyomi, and it FAILED on them! He was to activate mugen tsukuyomi before anything else it was his priority and he did so and awakened the most powerful dojutsu in narutoverse. He ran instead of fighting Naruto and Sasuke. Its clear he himself knew he couldn't defeat them despite getting his second Rinnegan. He awoke the Rinne Sharingan: SO WHAT? He can't jump between dimensions like Kaguya. His power was explicitly said to be so damn inferior to Kaguya's its not even funny.

From what basis is toneri anywhere near Madara he's not even close to Hagoromo let alone Madara with a third eye????? ...moving the fucking moon. CUTTING IT IN HALF! Are you seriously ignoring that? Madara never did anything close to what Toneri did! He was defeated by a weakened chakra mode Naruto in one blow that's ridiculous... Naruto was never weakened. That's a falsehood. Naruto's Tailed Beast Sage Mode, two years after getting stronger from the war, is just stronger than his Six Paths Sage Mode within the War. That's how feats work.

And seriously, you love ignoring the feats. Kaguya is still shit in combat she should've been smart and tactical but kishimoto purposely made her dumb black zetsu was the brains and he only manipulated Madara through deceit given his arrogance. Kaguya's so 'shitty' in combat, she nearly killed Sasuke and Naruto several times. Black Zetsu is part of Kaguya, he's her will manifested.

Kaguya is so strong she can only be defeated via sealing. Madara isn't the same class. And you claim I'm downplaying them? Lol this is ridiculous.. Considering you're ignoring and downplaying every feat I've presented you, while not presenting arguments of your side, yes, you are downplaying them.