Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-6769189-20200818042010

David Kibasennin wrote:

I don't know if they're continent busters or whatever the term is. These terms, the whole "power-scaling" aspect is so detached from the storytelling aspect of the franchise, it frankly ruins it. And as Naeyon123 pointed out, all it brings is inconsistencies. Power scaling is really important. It plays a huge role in the tension of the story. Would we really have given a damn about the Otsutsuki if they were Zabuza level? No. It also can help set expectations for future enemies. Can we expect to see Zabuza-level combatants be the main threat of an arc? No. If they show will we take them or the world of Naruto seriously, probably not.

David Kibasennin wrote:

But as far as show-don't-tell goes, we never saw them blow up a planet or a continent... but we did see them destroy mountains. Plenty of them. Mountains. Do you realize how big one of those is? Way to ignore the very next line of my statement

David Kibasennin wrote:

We don't need to see them blowing up planets, but just two powers clashing obliterated the environment they were around in You would have a point if it wasnt explicitly stated that planet destroyers wrrent involved

David Kibasennin wrote:

(which, again, if the final Sasuke vs Naruto fight brought that level of destruction, That level of destruction doesnt invalidate planetary levels of strength. Not every attack has high AOE. It doesnt have to destroy everything to have the power to destroy everything. Chidori for instance, can tear a person in half, but the nature of the attack focuses all that power into a relatively small, localized area and only pierces what that area comes into contact with.

Nagato doesnt destroy Konoha every single time he uses Shinra Tensei, but he is capable of doing so.

David Kibasennin wrote:

Sasuke vs Kinshiki not doing so goes to show that either their, or one of their levels aren't that high or that that God Tree, Chojuro and Kurotsuchi are at that level too). Sasuke doesnt destroy mountains when he fought Kinshiki, so clearly he is below Edo Madara and since he struggled so much against Kinshiki, that means they are on similar levels and that Hashirama can destroy them both since he is stronger than Madara.

Is this really what you are trying to say?

David Kibasennin wrote:

Its just as silly that the planet buster Kinshiki argument is "the databook says so". Because you take away the databook info, I'd know that Sasuke and Naruto are powerful enough to at least raze everything in an x mile radius to the ground. But you take away the databook info, Kinshiki is physically as strong as Tsunade. Edo Madara>Adult Sasuke confirmed.

David Kibasennin wrote:

The databook is a marketing product, it's there to be bought and have plenty of new info, regardless of its accuracy. In Dragon Ball, databooks are saying Beerus killed the dinosaurs, whereas they can still be seen here and there in their Earth. The databook is officially released material meant to expand upon things that the series wasnt able to. We are talking about Naruto, not Dragonball. Just because Dragonball has innacurate databooks doesnt mean every databook ever released for every series needs to be thrown out the window.

Toriyama himself retcons the hell out of his series, sometimes because he just forgets stuff. Furries inhabited a like half the dragonball world and Piccolo was a demon, Kami was God... until the Z portion came and they were eventually phased out. Goku became an alien, Potara became temporary. King Kai replacrd Kami and then King Kai was made obsolete as Supreme Kai's became Gods of Creation.