Board Thread:Wiki Discussions and Support/@comment-26010916-20150211152912/@comment-26010916-20150212151624

Naruto uzu6254 wrote: Naruto is Kurama's Jinchuuriki so he can go Tailed Beast mode even in RSM like in the Last time the conjoint Avatar, he has chakra of all the Tailed Beasts not whole Tailed Beasts to undergo full transformation, Kurama's transformation cloak is the result of Naruto's chakra + Kurama's chakra, Naruto could also go Tailed Beast mode but it resulted in chibi version during his training with Killer B. Killer B and the rest of the Jinchuriki can go full transformation. So no he can't go other partial transformation except with Kurama (chakra arms). Naruto can access Kurama's chakra with free will because he is Jinchuriki and when he knows he can't go Kyubi mode he asks Kurama to prepare some chakra meaning he can talk to Kurama also.

Now you are stating that Naruto called out for help but it is incorrect it was actually Beasts calling out Naruto in various situation and they were lending him power. It is described in panels so that we can know which beasts power is the Rasenshuriken made from. Naruto can do shadow clones without all the beasts during the fight with Kaguya. And why would Kishimoto insert Bijuu names in "We will", here We refers to Naruto and Sasuke and that was implied when both of them were shown together in this new mode. Now don't get me wrong but if you are going in too much detail in RM/Kyubi mode and you are comparing that with RSM/SPSM. Not stated in databook is not enough reason to remove nine tailed beasts in the article. If it was stated that nine tailed beasts are NOT involved and only Hagoromo's gift (that's what you like to call the only Hagoromo exclusive power) was involved then we would be removing that as we just state what happens in manga not databook. Databook, guidebooks are just to help clear some confusion. Actually sometimes databook does not mention everything e.g. There is no entry for Danzo's summoning. It does not mean he did not perform summoning. The error counts if something was stated in the databook and actually contradicts the manga. At that time we go with databook explanation or our reasoning. Missing the point "all tailed beast" in RSM is not legitimate reason.

Do note that all the Tailed Beast were shown in all Bijuu RS. And also they were present before Hagoromo and they were repaying him for the help he did in the battle because he freed them from chains and he gained cooperation from them. If that's not it then what is the purpose for them assembling in circle together.

The youton Rasen shuriken and Kicking Truth Seeking Ball is part of RSM

Exactly and that is why he is able to manifest his power with RSM without needing to confront him directly, unless he has to refine his chakra like he did with Kaguya. Not entirely, if Naruto had pieces of each tailed beasts and could bring out their power, Kishimoto would imply that. Sad fact is that Naruto can only bring out portions of their chakra with direct abilities that correspond to the tailed beasts.

Yes, if I implied that Naruto called out for their help, it does not matter in which shape, or form that power manifested from. Naruto using their power, intended for them to make a connection, to share their chakra with Naruto so that he could quote on quote, use their power. Now that is a double standard, when Naruto uses the tailed beasts power as you imply, they make a connection with Naruto. It doesn’t happen all the time with Kurama as we know, but as you pointed out so clearly, if Kishimoto wanted to showcase that the Bijuu are involvement with RSM/RM he would of gave them panels instead of mimicking the creation of the Kyuubi’s chakra. See you are missing the point in this conversation, is that we both know that it is not stated whether all tailed beasts are used or whether NONE of the tailed beasts are used. What I AM implying here is that the information is incorrect on the Wiki’s part, which you have no claim to HIM using the tailed beasts chakra. As I, and others have concluded that it is merely Kurama’s chakra. That means, the information is not clear, not decided, and there is no definite answer. However, the manga/databook proves to my side, however you are stating because Naruto uses their power which he has shown the ability to do so in RM, he now uses their power to create RSM. Which I can debate about quite easily, but we cannot find the answer as Kishimoto did not state so. Mind you, that the Tailed Beasts are an implication of Hagoromo appearing, and the Child of Prophecy nonsense. If they never appeared during that conversation, the hype of War Arc when Naruto meets the Jinchuriki/Bijuu would have never been fulfilled. Using that as a point means nothing when RSM itself has nothing to do with any other influence besides Kurama. Lastly, if you cannot prove that the tailed beasts influence RSM, and yet I have information as we know: Manga (kanji: fire), not implication of him using their power to combine but merely using their powers when they are needed, and the databooks. Why not come to the conclusion of changing the information entirely? Saying the power is completely just a gift from Hagoromo as the databooks notes. Instead of giving a large assumption on that part. The answer will never come to us, and there is no point leading others astray with false information. We should just follow what we have, rather than making on what isn't there. Because one thing from this conversation is noted: “No one has been able to prove this wrong” so why not make the latter?