Talk:Naruto Uzumaki/Archive 5

Has Konoha 11 learned about Naruto
Through the Manga, Anime & Filler arcs in both Part 1 & 2, does Konoha 11 know that Naruto is jinchūriki of the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox? Are they aware about Akatsuki's plan with Naruto?


 * Seems so...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 10:43, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

yes they do know they were told not to speak about it or they will be consequences kakashi jariya tsunate and narutos freinds do know that they want the jureki inside naruto

ok....i kinda find this strange
ok. so the databook says that he's done 16 official missions in total. but i find it stupid.it cant even be true! he's been a ninja for like, 4 years and he only completed 16 missions? --Narutodude (talk) 21:56, September 4, 2009 (UTC)narutodude


 * The plot follows Naruto whenever he goes on a mission, which makes it difficult to complete X00 missions. That would be a new mission every few chapters. ~SnapperTo 22:12, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that strange when you think about it. He's been a ninja for 4 years. 2½ of those he was away with Jiraiya, so that leaves 1½ years to do missions. He also spent more than a month on the chūnin exams and more than a month on finding Tsunade. he was also in the hospital for a few months at the end of part 1. He also spent time training his Wind Release and Sage techniques, so let's say that leaves 11 months. That leaves about 20 days for each mission. Remember that he and his team-members have to recover, prepare, and train as well. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:06, September 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * And yet...during the Search for Tsunade arc Naruto showed that he had a huge amount of money saved up from his missions (most, if not all of which would've been D or C rank). Unless finding lost cats and pulling up potatoes has a ridiculously high pay rate, he couldn't earned all that money just from doing a few measly missions.Dartblaze (talk) 06:46, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * thou the anime shows more then 16 missions this wiki works off the manga as primary source of infomation, and as for the money thing it is also shown he has very good luck when it comes to winning bets and lotto Fawcettp (talk) 08:12, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * He had a wallet full of change, I would hardly call that a huge amount... Still, let's look at the facts, shall we?
 * At the time of the Search for Tsunade mission, Naruto had completed 7 D-rank missions, 1 C-rank mission (the Escort Tazuna mission), and 1 A-rank mission (the Chase Gaara and Sasuke mission).
 * D-rank missions make between 5.000 and 50.000 ryō, C-rank missions between 30.000 and 100.000 ryō, and A-rank missions between 80.000 and 1.000.000 ryō.
 * This means that at the time of the Search for Tsunade mission, Naruto had made at least 145.000 ryō and at most 1.450.000 ryō. 1 ryō = ¥10, so that would mean he made between ¥1.450.000 and ¥14.500.000.
 * That's between:
 * €10.879,21 and €108.792,13;
 * £9.562,70 and £95.626,99 (UK);
 * $15.915,20 and $159.152,-- (US).
 * All that in not more than 1½ year time. Those are some damned good wages for a 12/13-year-old boy. --ShounenSuki (talk 08:26, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol...cant belive u calculated all that, and even converted it into a currency that even an idiot shud be able to understand...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 08:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

It hasn't been 4 years that naruto has been a ninja. The chunin exams happens every six months and there was only one before naruto left with Jiraiya. So at most he has only been a ninja for three years 2 1/2 of which with Jiraiya so he only had six months to complete missions.

Most likely Naruto's parents left him a huge some of money that he gets in allowance. Or since Jiraiya is his Godfather and he's rich he could have set up a means of funds for Naruto.

It has been about 4 years because part 1 has been like 1 year and the 2 1/2 years with Jiraya, and dont forget that in part 2 it has been about 1 more year so far.-- Rockonlee

Senju Clan
Shouldn't Naruto get the Senju clan logo?

Since Madara reveald that within Naruto dwells the fire of the Senju Clan.

Source http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/14/
 * Having the same ideals ≠ bring related by blood. --ShounenSuki (talk 01:05, September 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * it is true there is no close relation between them but he does look a hell of a lot like one of the guys in the clan photo (thou this may be due to limited design changeability) Fawcettp (talk) 08:25, September 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * Similar appearances can happen without a blood relationship. Until there is definite proof that Naruto is considered a Senju, their symbol shouldn't be added to Naruto's page. --ShounenSuki (talk 17:13, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Neither Naruto, Minato nor Kushina has any relation to the Senju Clan Madara said that because of the senjutsu or sage mode  of naruto similar to the senju clan ancestor who is born with the Sage's Body. --121.54.92.57 (talk) 13:14, December 24, 2009 (UTC) -joboyaltar

Naruto's Senjutsu has nothing to do with it. As ShounenSuki-senpai stated, Madara was speaking of ideals, not power. --Master Shannara (talk)

Wired
i was watching some filler arcs and if filler arcs like arcs to juts make more episodes right the will not remember the mission. so how can thay only find out it would take three years for orochimaru to posses sasuke in a filler arc. Bleach boy

Appearance summary
Why doesn't Naruto get more detailed description in the Appearance summary, like Sasuke and Sakura have? KazeKitsune (talk) 20:19, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Your free to add anything u see fit you know..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 20:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

You cannot edit the "Naruto" page--Rockonlee

Abilities
This may sound like general discussion, but it relates to the 'Abilities' section- can someone please explain how Naruto's abilities are 'Kage level or higher'? Sure he's much more powerful in sage mode, but that takes a while to set up (gathering energy, making shadow clones) so when he doesn't have that opportunity he shouldn't be any higher than jonin (if that). Also, in his battle against Pain he relied heavily on the toads (who he can't usually summon properly) and not his own strength. ALSO he can't rely on the fox due to the whole 'breaking loose and killing everyone' problem. So what exactly is it that makes him supposedly so powerful? Dartblaze (talk) 09:37, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sage Mode = HIS Technique, which he can use anytime he needs it.
 * He's twice shown that he can gather the energy instantly.
 * When he came bak frm the eight tail mode
 * When he met Nagato. Both times he didn't have clones remaining to gather energy.
 * Defeated Akatsuki leader and Helped Kill Kakauzu.
 * Tsunade and Kakashi defeated by Pain Shows how powerful Pain was.
 * Fukasaku states he's surpassed previous generation.
 * Zetsu states he's become extremly powerful, maybe evn more so than Sasuke.
 * I dont see the problem..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 09:45, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sage mode is a special form- kind of pathetic if he has to use it in every one of his battles.
 * Kakuzu had already been fighting for ages, plus the battle was won due to Kakuzu's huge oversight.
 * Tsunade was completely exhausted; Kakashi fought alone (mostly).
 * Fukasaku didn't necessarily mean that he was more powerful.
 * In sage mode, maybe...

I'll reserve judgment until his next battle... but I greatly resent his 'get beaten then go fox mode and win' motif.

P.S. Not a personal attack in any way...except against Naruto. Dartblaze (talk) 11:30, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * You dont seem to like Naruto much.
 * "Sage mode is a special form" Isn't the Sharingan, the Rinnegan or the Byakugan a "Special Eye"? Dont the ppl who have it rely on it ALL the time? Isn't that Pathetic of them?
 * Wasn't Jiraiya's most powerful form the Sage mode as well?
 * Wasn't Tsunade exhausted BECAUSE of Pain?
 * Didn't Naruto fight ALL PATHS ALONE, and not just A Couple like Kakashi?
 * Didn't Even Kakuzu admit that if he gets hit with the Rasen shuriken, that he's done for?
 * Didn't Kakuzu know he was well and truly defeated as he mentioned to Kakashi that he couldn't belive he was beaten by Kids?
 * "plus the battle was won due to Kakuzu's huge oversight." Whose fault is that. Are you implying that evrytime Naruto outsmarts his opponent that its luck?
 * Please be unbiased when viewing these things. Naruto is in no way my fav character. I'm just stating the facts..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 11:37, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * But sage mode isn't just something you use on a regular basis (unless he improves it in some way. That would be cool.)
 * Jiraiya was powerful even without sage mode
 * Tsunade never fought Pain.
 * Naruto fought with 5 toads
 * Kakuzu was also referring to Kakashi
 * And it was a blindingly simple bluff that he fell for...

Sorry if I seem to hate Naruto with a passion (I used to; not anymore) ;) Could something possibly be added to the article about his incredible determination/stunning use of deception and backup plans? Those seem to be his main strength. Dartblaze (talk) 12:00, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Again u seem hell bent on refusing the facts.
 * Why was Tsunade exhausted? Because of Pain's Shinra Tensai..
 * The toads only took care of the summons, Naruto took care of the actual bodies.
 * Again, Naruto Outsmarted Kakuzu. Thats STRATEGY. Thats a part of Battle.
 * Wats the difference in age and expereince between Jiraiya and Naruto?
 * Naruto defeated sum1 that 2 of the Sannin and Kakashi with help couldn't defeat. All 3 were Hokage candidates (tsunade being Hokage)...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 12:07, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Sooooo...his main strength still seems to be strategy. My main problem is that the article almost completely ignores this essential point...any objections to me adding a section on it? Dartblaze (talk) 12:11, September 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * " Naruto has gained in his training with Jiraiya are an increased range of battle smarts and more knowledge of the basics of a shinobi, which he lacked during Part I." Its stated. If u want to expand on that, i dont see a problem..--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 12:13, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I thought that bit very much breezed over something that comprises most of Naruto's fighting style...alrighty then, I'll expand it. Thankx! Dartblaze (talk) 12:16, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Pain stated that if he hadn't kept his secret that He would have not be able to Defeat Jiraiya. Naruto knew of the six bodies from the beginning of his fight.


 * MATAKU!!! Kakashi himself said (in his mind): "NARUTO YOU HAVE SURPASSED ME!" And Naruto's greatest skill is his versatile use of Rasengan (no sage mode... yet)... the man practically re-invented one of the most powerful ninjutsus ever created: RASEN-SHURIKEN (OH WHICH BY THE WAY HE INVENTED ON HIS OWN - with help from his two sempai, but still on his own) and when I say re-invented, I am referring to taking an already S-grade rank jutsu (kinjutsu actually) and turn it into the Flying Rasen-shuriken which no longer has any danger for him, but is ENDGAME (GAISHU ISSHOKU to use Madara's favorite word) for almost any opponent. Watch out when talking bad about Naruto. No matter what you would say, remember the name of the show, he will always be better (thank you) than anyone (even Madara : - MadaraU (talk) 16:04, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * How do we consider Tsunade, Danzo and Kakashi to be at Kage level? (Kakashi was nominated as the sixth Hokage, so he had a realistic chance of becoming a Hokage)...
 * We only know that Tsunade is the Naruto world's greatest medical ninja and is one of the Legendary Sannin. We have not really seen any extraordinary abilities in her yet. In fact, Pain could beat her quite easily.
 * Same goes for Danzo. We have heard what his abilities are and what he could do, etc. but never seen much of it.
 * As for Kakashi, does it not take him a lot of time to awaken his Mangekyou Sharingan? Does it mean he is pathetic? Also, overuse of his normal Sharingan leaves him exhausted. Sakura has even remarked sarcastically that "It was unusual for Kakashi to be not in bed after finishing a mission." Does it mean he is pathetic?
 * As with the Kyuubi (the nine-tailed demon fox), Naruto can use its chakra anytime he wants to. The trouble starts when it goes beyond the fourth tail. Didn't Naruto beat Neji at the Chunnin exam using that chakra without losing control over himself?
 * For the summons, throughout the Naruto series, the summoner is allowed to count the summon's powers as their own. I do not want to go into details of this as it is well known. As for Naruto's inability to use his summons properly, he has never made any frog summons in Part 2 (excluding the fillers). There is a possibility that he has fixed his summoning problems during his training with Jiraiya (although I agree we have not seen it so far so we cannot count it yet).
 * Apart from these, the main objections to saying he is at Kage level or higher is that "he defeated his opponents because of his opponent's weakness or overconfidence or carelessness". That is downright unacceptable. You don't win battles just because your opponent screwed up. You still need the strength to fight. Do you think a Konohamaru or even a Rock Lee would be able to beat Pain or Kakuzu, just because they screwed up with something? NO. What about Sasuke (if his MS is activated)? Maybe YES. Notice the difference? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 16:47, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I merely skimmed over this section, mainly because Geijustu made a very long comment, but I just want to interject real quick: You can beat someone who outclasses you in terms of strength by simply exploiting their weaknesses. If Lee, Konohamaru, and anyone else knew that Pain was really a emaciated man sitting in a robotic chair far away but close enough to the battle, then yes, they could have beaten him. ANYONE could have beaten him at that point. The entire point of Pain's six bodies is that you were fighting six individuals with no knowledge of which one was the real one or was the real one even there. Once you do, its simply a matter of locating the emaciated man and eliminating him.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:16, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Jiraya was beaten by a basic quality of the rinnengan, the synchronization of the 6 bodies. It wasn't even a 'near victory', it was just an outright beatdown.  Naruto was able to take on all 6 by himself.  I don't even know why this is being argued.  All of naruto's jutsu surpassed jiraya's in terms of strength.  Jiraya himself was a kage level fighter.  Also, knowing where Nagato was wouldn't have likely helped a normal shinobi.  Nagato used a jutsu that outright resurrected hundreds of people, and it killed him.  What had he chosen 'death' for naruto from his 'controls life and death' abilites?  Anyways... I think its outright silly to say naruto isn't at kage level, when he is so clearly in the top of the ninja ranks in the world of naruto.--SkyFlicker (talk) 18:30, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * TheUltimate, even if any other ninja would have known where Nagato's main body was, he still could not have beaten him without a Shinobi army because the Pain Rikudo would have arrived in its aid. To beat down Nagato (and his life or death abilities - he was not just an emaciated man, he had control over these two powers) one would have had to pass through the Pain Rikudo (AND NARUTO DID IT). - MadaraU (talk) 06:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, time to cut this discussion off right here. This isn't a forum, we're not here to discuss how powerful Naruto is. The section was started because a user disagreed with a statement in the abilities section, and that text has been made more neutral. End of story, this discussion has no reason to continue. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 1, 2009 @ 08:11 (UTC)

THANK YOU!! Gosh, I finished this discussion and added the intelligence section AGES ago. Dartblaze (talk) 09:04, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think that any ability's related to the Nine Tailed Demon Fox, that are listed as jutsu's should be taken down. 05:20, December 22, 2009
 * Any technique he's been shown using gets listed.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:27, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes he might have defeated all th Pains but he relied on the fox, if he didnt slip into 8th tail mode, he would be able to come out of the chibaku tensei, meaning he would have been defeated. This shows he is pathetic, always relying on the fox to save him.

Pakkun keychain
At the beginning of Episode 20, Naruto is showed using a Pakkun keychain while locking his house.Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 13:21, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto similar to his mother?
When his mother and minato were being discussed, it was said that his jutsu and style most resembled his mother... however, at this point, the only jutsu he even had was rasengan and shadow clones. if you think about it, those are basically the only two jutsu he used nearly the entire series. so how exactly does his jutsu resemble his mothers, when both his jutsu were high-ranked, one being forbidden, and the other just being rediculously hard to master?--SkyFlicker (talk) 09:32, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * i always thought it was reference to the fact he is first in and hands on close combat, not to his techniques (it does say stile not techniques)Fawcettp (talk) 10:26, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * 'his personality and style of Ninjutsu are almost identical to his mother'. minato's only known ninjutsu are summoning (naruto's only other jutsu) and flying thunder god tech, which is really a close combat tech in the end. this is why the entire quote has never made sense to me.  naruto used summoning, multi shadow clones, and rasengan, so how is his ninjutsu similar to hers unless she used all of these things and moreso than minato?--SkyFlicker (talk) 10:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe she did use all those techniques more than the Fourth, or maybe they weren't talking literally, but meant the type of ninjutsu Naruto uses: chakra-consuming, short-range ninjutsu. Tsunade could also have meant that Kushina's fighting style was based around the Shadow Clone Technique, just like Naruto's. This in contrast to the Fourth's fighting style, which is based on speed. --ShounenSuki (talk 12:00, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * That is a good point, as minato's signature tech required no chakra usage, and naruto tends to let loose with his chakra usage. Still seems like a rather odd statement to make, given his low repetoire of jutsu, and if she didn't use any shadow clones, it still would seem like a very odd jump to make to say his are like his mother's.--SkyFlicker (talk) 12:13, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto's techniques mainly belong to the following categories: 1. Shadow Clones 2. Rasengan 3. Frog Summoning 4. Sage Mode 5. Kyuubi Mode 6. Perverted Techniques. Out of these, only Resengan and Frog Summoning could be common to him and his father. Kakashi suggested during Naruto's Rasenshuriken training that even the Fourth Hokage was not as skilled as Naruto at shadow clones. We can safely assume that his father did not use Sage Mode, otherwise Jiraiya or Fukusaku would have made some mention of it. ...

As with his mother, we know very little what techniques she used, but Shadow Clones and Perverted Techniques cannot be ruled out (Note Kushina's page in the wiki. It says her hobby is pulling pranks.). Moreover, Naruto has more stamina and chakra that most other people (even excluding the Kyuubi's chakra). If chakra content could be inherited, it has to come from his mother. Does it not seem interesting that Naruto's mother is from a different country about which we do not know much? Kishimoto might come up with "shinobi of the Whirlpool country were naturally gifted with immense chakra" or something like that. ...

It is also possible that Jiraiya and Tsunade made that statement in a "lighter vein" referring to the perverted techniques only. ;-) It is best to wait for Kishimoto to explain it, assuming that he does so eventually. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 14:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

There could be the possibilitie that minato invented the rasengan by taking inspiration from a jutsu that kushina used, there coul be also that kushina was an expert on shadow clone jutsu, if we think it in some way the shadow clne jutsu could be used to play a particular prank, there is also the primary base of the trasnformation jutsu, maybe kushina had a jutsu that allowed her to transform into something that coul scared the other ninjas even high ninja probably minato a kage leved ninja. At the end this another theory.

Naruto's Chakra content
At the beginning of Naruto's Rasenshuriken training, Kakashi mentioned that Naruto has about 4 times as much chakra as him, and 100 times as much if we do not suppress the Kyuubi's chakra. I know that Naruto uses a certain amount of his chakra to suppress the Kyuubi. Thus, does the above statement mean, "Kyuubi's chakra is about 96 times that of Kakashi" or "Naruto uses about that much chakra to suppress the Kyuubi"? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 14:12, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * "Naruto uses about that much chakra to suppress the Kyuubi". We don't know what ratio it takes of Naruto's chakra to the Fox's chakra to suppress it. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Sep 29, 2009 @ 18:20 (UTC)

No we don't but Kakashi's statement could mean what 'Geijutsu wa bakujutsu da' said.--96.52.173.186 (talk) 23:36, September 29, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

Yeah, it does make sense. Considering that the tailed beasts are supposed to be having enormous amounts of Chakra. I guess "100 times Kakashi's chakra" is not something the villages would fight over so much. So, then based on Kakashi's statements we can say, Naruto's total chakra content is about 100 times Kakashi's chakra, and we don't know how much chakra the Kyuubi has, although it would be much higher than this. Thanks. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 14:05, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Infiltrate Orochimaru's hideout
Shouldn't this be considered completed because they did infiltrate his hideout or was this stated in the databook? Narutosagemaster (talk) 03:59, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I know their mission is to infiltrate the hideout and bring sasuke back. They didn't bring sasuke back so the mission failed.

-joboyaltar--121.54.92.57 (talk) 06:01, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Does the village know?
allright, i know that kakashi knows that naruto is the 4th hokages child, but does the village know? In part one, everyone treated Naruto so akwardly, like he was trash. help me understand please...--Ccj290 (talk) 22:15, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No and Yes. Only a few that know Minato. The villagers only saw Naruto as the fox not the kid that help stopped the fox from destroying the village. These are the people that we know so far that knows he is the son of Minato. Jiraiya, Tsunade, the Third, Kakashi, maybe Iruka (not fully sure), and maybe Danzou, Koharu, and Homura (Very highly unlikely unless they dislike Minato) Also don't forget that the third kept Naruto family a secret from not only Naruto, to other people as well. That help? If not then let me know ok. Hopemon (talk) 21:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto's Background Picture?
I'm new to the whole Narutopedia, but the reason I joined is because I noticed that almost every other character gets a background picture when they were younger, except Naruto... I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but since I'm new, I'm still unexperienced in how to edit stuff on the pages. Thanks

sign ur signuate with four tildes these are 4 tildes. but anyways, i agree... we should have a younger picture of naruto. NLet's try to get one WITHOUT HIM CRYING. EDIT: i have this piture... is this a good picture? File:Naruto_child.jpg

--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 19:00, October 6, 2009 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Yeah, I think it is good. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 16:30, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks but why did Jacce have to delete it? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 13:40, October 8, 2009 (UTC)KiumaruHaamchi


 * Mainly Copyright violations....And the cartoon network watermark didn't help either. Cud u gimme the epi no. in which u got that...I might be able to get one without the watermark...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 08:02, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

How about this one? I am sorry if the post gets messed up. First time I am uploading a picture here. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 08:10, October 18, 2009 (UTC)File:Naruto_Child.png The episode in which that picture appears is Naruto Shippuden 17 at approxiamatly (sorry 'bout the spelling) 12:01 into the episode...

I wonder why is it that the coolest Naruto's quote isn't there...
(To Sai, about saving Sasuke):I don't care who I have to fight...If someone rips my arms off, I'll kick him to death...if he rips my legs off, I'll bite him to death...if he rips my head off, I'll stare him to death...and if he gouges my eyes, I'll curse him from beyond the grave...even if I'm torn to shreds...I'll take Sasuke back...--79.116.250.45 (talk) 08:43, October 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, now that you mentioned it, even I wonder. It was indeed one of his coolest quotes until his "discussion" with Pain/Nagato. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 16:20, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * So~ what's preventing you from adding it yourselves? --ShounenSuki (talk 18:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well I just signed up...and I haven't seen any edit option in there so I thought I can't do anything about it but mention...--Yumetai (talk) 07:55, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Its been added...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 08:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I did not read the quote carefully the first time, but now I read it properly. If I remember correctly, he was referring to Orochimaru when he said that, and not any random person whom he may have to fight. I don't have the episode with me right now. Could someone confirm it? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 15:41, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

It's somwhere in the 55-60 episodes...but he only said: "I'll take sasuke back from Orochimaru"...so I believe he was refering to him...but I also think it goes to anyone else :">--Yumetai (talk) 16:03, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Current again
Apparently, this wiki should not use "current", so should we also remove phrases like "to date" and "current Raikage"? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 13:57, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Preferably, yes. That would be the ideal situation. However, this isn't always possible due to practical reasons. Only calling the Raikage "Raikage" is too unspecific. Once we know which Raikage he was or what his name is, we can get rid of the "current". --ShounenSuki (talk 16:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto a sensor type?
I read a few chapters on the Invasion of Pain arc, In Sage Mode he was able to sense the chakra around them. Like Karin, Shi, Inoichi Yamanaka, and Fū does it make Naruto a sensor type?


 * Not in the same way. It's just a benefit granted by Sage Mode. ~SnapperTo 23:28, October 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think Naruto should be considered a sensor type. It does not matter how someone activates their ability.Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 13:39, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yup. He's doing the same in the latest chapter. He should be considered one. But can we really classify someone in two types? --96.52.173.186 (talk) 03:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

Well, there should not be any problem if the character actually has two abilities. 08:05, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Then he probably should be classified as a sensor type. And he's already classified as two types so classifying him as a sensor type makes perfect sense to me.--Narutodude (talk) 04:06, October 17, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

I just joined this wiki recently. I don't know how to edit the information in that sidebar. I don't see any option there. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 06:04, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the sign on the back of his cloth the same as the uchiha clan ancestor's doujutsu?

Back of what cloth? If you're talkin about naruto's jacket then no it's not. And where did this fit in this? It was plain random.--Narutodude (talk) 07:35, October 18, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude


 * @ (Whoever made the comment "Isn't the sign on the back of his cloth the same as the uchiha clan ancestor's doujutsu?") First of all, sign your posts. Secondly, make a separate heading for a new topic discussion. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 08:38, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

multi shadow clone picture
Wouldn't the picture of the time he did it against Kakashi be better for the Multiple Shadow Replication? --Narutodude (talk) 07:48, October 18, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

I am not sure what the article looked like when you made that comment, but that is the picture that is currently there. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 08:13, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Never mind that.--Narutodude (talk) 23:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

Wait, it isn't. I'm talking about Naruto's Article. And the picture there is against Mizuki.--Narutodude (talk) 23:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

Indeed, you are right. I got confused. I have a picture of when he used it against Kakashi. I shall upload it if required. But, what would be the benefit of doing that? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 04:52, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

1. It'd be kinda more clear. 2. He makes a lot more clones that time. --Narutodude (talk) 23:07, October 20, 2009 (UTC)Narutodude

Dropout?
At the beginning of the story, it was mentioned that Naruto has failed the academy exam for 3 years, then why is he of the same age as the Sakura, Sasuke and the others? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 09:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * It was mentioned that he failed the exam three times. the third time being the one we were actually shown. There are plenty of reasons why he might have failed two exams and still be the same age as Sakura and Sasuke. --ShounenSuki (talk 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Main Picture
Shouldn't the main picture be one from shippuden instead of one from part 1 since it's what he currently looks like? the part one pic can always go somewhere else on the page. I just think that you should have a pic of what he currently looks like. Same with the other characters. That's just my opinion though.
 * No, policy is to use the old image. We're not a current news source, articles are supposed to be relevant to all readers from any point in the series. The first consistent appearance of a character is used because it's the most relevant to readers from any point in the series (people who have only seen Part I have not seen the Part II appearance, people who have seen Part II have still seen Part I and it is still a relevant image). We put the Part II image of the character later on in the Part II section of the article for those who have gotten to that point. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Oct 25, 2009 @ 05:07 (UTC)

Headbutt
Naruto used it versus Gaara. Can someone with the power to do so add it to his jutsu in the correct place? Jules R. J. Blake (talk) 21:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * There's Headbutt the jutsu and Headbutt the headbutt. Naruto didn't use the jutsu version. ~SnapperTo 22:36, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto as the youngest on team 7
I'm guessing that this was stated in a databook since it's in the trivia, but if it was stated that he was the youngest, then why would he be the middle child on team yamato? if it's true, then wouldn't he still be the youngest since sai and sakura are older than him?
 * I thought I removed that trivia point... Oh well, it's gone now. --ShounenSuki (talk 15:51, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Do you get what I'm saying? ????
When has Naruto said "Do you get what I'm saying?". I have read about 471 chapters of the manga, and seen about 360 episodes of the anime (including the fillers), but I do not recollect him having said that even once. Could someone give a link to the databook where it says this "Do you get what I'm saying?" Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 13:20, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto another timeskip ?
OK so this is not a spoiler im just saying you guys should add the naruto Part 3 where naruto is hokage. This is real even Masashi Kishimoto said that... There will be a book coming soon so i think you should put this in. If this is counted as a spoiler then just go right ahead and delete this. Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 21:29, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mind posting your source? Jacce | Talk 21:31, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Naruto Viz Source
 * Picture Source
 * And Kishimoto said that 2 years ago but that was counted as a rumor that was not true. Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 21:43, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * That forum thread proves nothing, the Youtube video has been removed, and the second fanbook advert says nothing about a timeskip.
 * The drawing of Hokage Naruto is nothing more than promotional material. It doesn't mean he will ever be Hokage and it certainly doesn't mean a new timeskip is coming. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:53, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well yeah I really don't think Naruto will be Hokage but who knows everything you think it is going to happen it doesn't. And also i think we will have to wait for confirmation i think. But really Masashi is really sneaky he could do something that you wouldn't think about... I didn't believe it at first but now i do believe it. Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 22:00, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Demon Fox Transformations
I have a stupid question, if Demon Fox Transformations is not classified as a jutsu, why is it on the jutsu list? Simant (talk) 04:16, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Good question, I think we should add it at the 'Activity inside Naruto' or 'Abilities' section like we did with Killer Bee. Art-is-a-blast (talk) 13:34, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Naruto as the Child of Prophecy
I think that under his name, should be added the title Child of Prophecy (with translation in Jap etc) I hope there is no need to explain why... given that Jiraiya acknowledged him, the Toad Sage Elder said that one of Jiraiya's pupils will be the Child of Prophecy etc. I need at least one "ok" from at least one of the ones who post more often on the wiki and I will add it myself (although I do not know how Child of Prophecy is said in Jap or the kanji:P - I need help with that:) ) - MadaraU (talk) 17:34, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * . You have my OK. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:24, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then you have to add this and for Nagato. They both are Children of Prophecy. "But I never thought Jiraiya's two pupils together would be the children of prophecy, the ones to lead a revolution in the ninja world" said the frog. :) It is not only Naruto. Nagato is the child who would lead to destruction and Naruto - to peace. So the peace prevail over destruction.--Donatelo (talk) 19:30, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * And also, he needs page protection lowered. Simant (talk) 19:39, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Arrigato ShounenSuki-san :D - MadaraU (talk) 23:18, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Editing the summary on the right side
How is one supposed to edit the information posted on the right side (just below the main photograph of the character)? Could someone help me with this? Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 13:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Infobox:Naruto Uzumaki, the new character infoboxes contain an inline edit link so this won't be an issue in the future. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 29, 2009 @ 17:27 (UTC)

The text in the bottom of the page
Are the names of his parents supposed to be showing like this? It doesn't really make much sense when reading the article. ~Hakinu (talk 14:22, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you are right. Looks like the page got a little messed up, and no one noticed it till now. Please remove it. Geijustu wa bakuhatsu da (talk) 15:26, December 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Dankje, Simi :3 ~Hakinu (talk 15:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Protection
Autocomfirm user only edit protection level. Simant (talk) 19:07, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Opinions stated as fact (U. Naruto)
I haven't read all the character wikis, but I've seen a trend of adding opinions or personal analyses into the wiki. The most glaring one(I'm not sure if I even want to look at Sasuke's) is Naruto giving up on Sasuke based on the fact that he looks depressed. At least I'm assuming that's what is being assumed, but you know what they say about assuming. There is no text showing that he's going to give up on Sasuke at all and certainly there is nothing showing that he is going to kill him. He asserts that he will have to fight Sasuke again, but it goes no further than that. I think when making statements of this nature you should link to onemanga, or something like the chapter and page number, showing that this actually has some factual basis(it does not). I think any lines of that nature should be deleted until proven by either action or by clearly stated wording on the actual character's part. --Cueil-sama (talk) 19:41, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree completely. Any personal opinions shouldn't be allowed to be in the wiki. To find out what's an opinion, and what's an expressed fact, there should be a lot more use of references. ~Hakinu (talk 19:48, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then shouldn't the whole "killing Sasuke" thing be removed from his personality?
 * Could you make an exact quote if you want a second opinion (because I'm lazy and don't care for looking for that in the article without the use of ctrl+f ("killing sasuke" only occures in a plot description later on in the article)) ~Hakinu (talk 23:11, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Jinchuriki symbol
I think there should be a jinchuriki symbol along with all the others-anynamous

Please put your signature when you talk on a talk page please. Nat12345919 (talk) 03:37, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Rasengan
Shouldn't it be noted in his Abilities section that since his Sage Training, Naruto has seemed to have overcome his need to use both hands for the Rasengan? I'm not saying it's a sure thing, I'm just saying that there's proof enough for it to be mentioned.--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 03:28, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * He still needed to use clones to make Rasengan in chapter 432 page 9, and he was in Sage mode at the time, so no. Jacce | Talk 06:17, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

That was the Rasenshuriken, wasn't it? And besides, what about when he Madara confronted him. He couldn't have made a Shadow Clone and the Rasengan in a matter of seconds, could he?--Kagi mizu -Seeya  'round ~ 02:31, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Or he thinks he needed to. Naruto used Rasengan without a clone in chatper 258, in chapter 431, in chapter 433 and 434, and in chapter 435. He can form it on his own, its just he thinks he can't. Naruto's chakra control has improved greatly since part 1. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:03, January 6, 2010 (UTC)SuperSaiyaMan
 * If he has been able to create a Rasengan with one hand, why go through all the trouble making clones in later appearance? Since he hasn't been seen creating a Rasengan with one hand, we can't write that he had, as this is a encyclopedia, we deal with facts. In chapter 258, he is attacking with a Rasengan, no sign of creating one. In chapter 431, he is using clones. In chapter 433, he is using clones. In chapter 434, he is not using the Rasengan at all, and not in chapter 435 either. Jacce | Talk 21:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its because its mental. Naruto thinks he can't do it on his own, so he falls back to his old habits. 258 shows he can do a Rasengan without creating a clone since it showed it being spontaneous. End of 430, no clone needed to create the Rasengan which destroyed Demon Realm. 431, he's HANDING RASENGANS OFF TO THE CLONES, not using them to create them. Hell, in 432, he was even creating the Rasenshuriken alone, the clones had their hands in position, true, but we didn't see them waving them in the first page when the Rasenshuriken formed. To eliminate Animal Realm, he entered Gamabunta's mouth alone and created the Rasenregan alone. That huge puff of smoke? It was from the explosion of the technique. Naruto was the only person besides Animal Realm in there. 433, the clones were only needed to throw the smoke bombs into the Rasengan mix. Point is, Naruto can do the Rasengan one handed now. --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:42, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Several examples of Naruto forming Rasengan off screen does not mean he can do Rasengan by himself. It means Kishimoto doesn't want to dedicate a couple panels every chapter to performing one jutsu. Consider the almost complete lack of hand seals in most chapters. Does that mean most characters don't need hand seals to perform jutsu? No. If Naruto could make a Rasengan by himself it would receive special attention. ~SnapperTo 03:53, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Super great ball rasengan
He uses this in the Pain fight were he creates two clones and they both use it and use it on the Pain summons.Kouseki (talk) 23:46, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you are thinking off Sage Art: Great Ball Rasengan. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:11, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

New Profile PIcs
I think Alot of the main characters SHould have a profile pic updated to Part II pictures. - Ananyoums
 * It's decided that the profile images are going to be from Part I if available. ~Hakinu (talk 02:16, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

what ?
what kind of power did itachi give to naruto?
 * Jaksa sage
 * We have no idea. Jacce | Talk 07:28, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Stats
Where did we get this stats ideas, I was quite inactive for sometimes and I missed out on it, is it from the databook....?

Uzumaki Naruto's Page doesn't have enough pictures
Ok, I know the title of this article may sound a bit overboard, but is there enough pictures. For example, if we look at Sasuke's page in the Five Kage Summit arc, he has at least two pictures (of him and Raikage clashing and his incomplete Susano'o) while Naruto only has one picture (of the village greeting him). Can't the article also include an image of him pushing Sakura away after she confesses or when Tobi appears behind him. I'd like to put it up myself, but I can't edit Naruto's page(I heard something about being a member for at least four days and doing a number of approved edits, before getting acces to edit Naruto's page). Also I'm still trying to figure out how to properly license an image, without it being deleted. Thanks in advance...Sparxs77 (talk) 21:51, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for asking about the proper licensing :) Very much appreciated. You can read about that in the Image policy page, or my user page if you need any more information. I'm not sure myself, but I'm pretty sure it was 10 accepted edits you needed to be autoconfirmed; not sure if the number of days was a requirement. I'll leave the uploading up to you, so you get those exact images you'd like to add. ~Hakinu (talk 22:02, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

manga only in jutsu infobox?
I saw that his techniques that he does in the snejutsu training arc are marked as manga only jutsu, but the anime hasnt gotten to that point yet, so how can it be manga only? AMTNinja (talk) 23:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * If the world were to end today. It would be true. And thats good enough for me. Simant (talk) 23:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Number 1 hyperactive knuckle headed ninja
--Collins254 (talk) 15:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)i know its a long title, but one i believe should be added to naruto's list of titles. having only seen the anime dubbed part 1 and obviously subbed part 2, tho i havnt read the manga so i dont know if they use it there, does anyone else agree with me?

Collins254

Picture-8 tailed
I've got a better pic for the 8-tailed transformation. Can anyone tell me how to upload it?