Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36512555-20200302063012/@comment-6769189-20200402122741

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Guru Guru fought the 5 kage also plus a hokage plus alliace shinobi's, no big deal. Back then Madara didn't even have the rinnegan Back when? Im talking about Edo Madara

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Mu could've done his ass in with jinton, nothing in Madara's arsenal could've tanked that but you know he was plots pet. Right... plots pet... because absorbing any ninjutsu wasnt a pre-established Rinnegan ability

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Atleast Ay fights with his own power compared to stealing others and fighting with it. ....whats your point. Crying about the origin of a characters abilities doesnt stop them from having those abilities

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Clones are different and weaker from originals so assume less. Since when? Naruto's shadow clones could still make Kurama Avatars. Even if they were weaker perfect Susanoo's, they would still be perfect Susanoo's and would be stronger than most. And even if the clones don't start out with Madara's max chakra, they will eventually refill because Edo, and the refill will be quicker because Preta Path

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

You mean the already exhausted, restrained and fatigued naruto? KCM2 mini TBB and Madara couldnt care less.

This same Naruto still scales to be weaker than Edo Hashirama who Edo Madara was stronger than.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

also Madara got 'punked' by hirudora what's your point? The weaker levels of his Susanoo did, when Madara wasnt fighting to kill. And we know Perfect Susanoo is WAY stronger than the one that was by Hirudora

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Alot of things are from part 1 chill. Not saying it's hold them for long but it'll be enough, forcing him and them to deactivate susanoo and in that moment they can be chooped down, or the original getting totsuka blitzed. Did you just say that Tayuya will force Madara to drop Perfect Susanoo?? Or any Susanoo? Thats rich. The skill and power gap between Tayuya and Madara is like, a million times bigger than the scale & power gap between Kurenai and Itachi and we saw what happened to Kurenai.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Why would he allow that lol. Madara would be dropping it on himself which just dumb. Nagato doesnt know about Madara's wood release. He didnt even know he had Madara's eyes.

As for Madara dropping meteors on himself being dumb. He literally did it in the manga. He also has a gigantic flying Susanoo to get a safe distance away. He also know Hiding in Surface so he can use a clone to do it while slips away pretty much in detected.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:


 * cough* he can't drain taijutsu *cough* there are other forms of attack he can't absorb like soul possession by dan kato which is perfect to stall and seal, or genjutsu, or gold dust etc.
 * Cough* Preta can absorb chakra on contact too


 * cough* Madara out-Taijutsu's 90% of the cast.

I would love to see where it is said/shown soul possession cant be absorbed.

I would love to see where is is said/shown the chakra in gold dust cant be absorbed.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

When did Mu face a CT? LOL. I meant he tried using particle style against Madara. Madara countered that but i didnt realize you were referring specifically to using it against CT

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

He can't summon the gedo mazou as an edo, sadly he doesn't have limbo clones here as well. He doesnt need the gedo mazo to control them. He has Sharingan. Not sure where you get the idea that he doesnt have Limbo clones while Edo.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Shift it to make it fall, it bigger they are they hard they fall. Big whoop. Perfecr Susanoo falls. Still an inpenetrable defense even if its nit standing upright. Also it flies.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Never stated or shown that he needs base Susanoo for meteors.
 * He can't be in PS and use tengai shinsei, it requires base susanoo to weave the seals, besides which PS will only be tanking the TS for the alliance.

Susanoo is able to create extra appendages. If thats is an ability exlusive to Itachi's Susanoo, nothing stops Madara from creating a clone for a second Susanoo and summoning the meteors cooperation Ninjutsu style

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Because that worked so well when Naruto and Gai and Kakashi and the 5 Kage tried it.
 * So does the edo, they can neutralise him.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Tell that to Sasuke and Sarada... And Madara
 * Literally no uchiha copied any jutsu in the whole series so chill, not saying they can't but it's not in their nature to do so, besides which Hiden techs like the kagemane can't be copied

Hiden techniques can be copied since anyone can learn them if they had a teacher. KKG, Summons, item specific jutsu and sage mode stuff cant be copied.