Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170423043658/@comment-27924662-20170508104929

BlazeRelease wrote: @Namikaze. And two legs and a head. Um, are you mentioning the avater fight where Sasuke used his PS sword against Kurama and Kurama obviously used all his tails together to overpower it? and I don't think it was a susnoo slash, Susanoo slashes don't need to even be in contact. Kurama used all the tails? that's funny one. Kurama just used single one to stop the blow. BlazeRelease wrote: Yes, a tired, left eye strained Sasuke fought in a taijutsu match against a guy with highly remarkeble Life force, stamina and Chakra and who used shadow clones in a taijutsu fight. Don't even try giving sasuke the sob sorry story of being tired. Naruto was fighting in the war long before Sasuke did. And He was giving his all from the start unlike sasuke who was fighting only for himself. BlazeRelease wrote: Um, where in the manga chapter did it even show Naruto was stronger than Sasuke? I don't know. How many times are you going to make me say it? When he used 9 TB fighting a tired naruto? Or Against momoshiki when Sasuke "died". BlazeRelease wrote: Huh? You mean the fight that happened like 15 years ago? the fight they did as teens? you take that as a prove to show what? Adult Naruto is stronger than Adult Sasuke?Nice. Oh I am being really nice, haven't you seen I have been the most patient of the lot. I have been trying to point out Sasuke needs a large chakra source to even tie with Naruto like in VOTE. Something which is non existent in this fight. BlazeRelease wrote: Yeah but me claiming otherwise that Naruto hasn't even remotely spoken to the tailed beasts after the chapters hint at soemthing doesn't it? Kurama being the only one shown in Naruto?Naruto not being alerted by Eight tails attack? Naruto not being helped by the other tailed beasts against Toneri? Naruto as the main character and as you guys always use, the show being named after him hasn't shown at all the other tailed beasts even with his screen time. He had a whole movie for him, but it didn't show. I wonder why? Naruto practically whooped toneri even without SPSM. Why would he call TB when he could easily win by himself? He doesn't need their help in any of the fights he has been to, Infact he was the OP in all of the fights be it with momoshiki, shin or Toneri. BlazeRelease wrote: Chapter between Naruto's RS training. Yamato distinctively warn Naruto about Sasuke's Fire jutsu and showed us all a pratical image of what will happen. In the chapters of Attacking Ten tails. Sasuke perfectly makes his Susanoo Amaterasu Arrow to match Naruto's RS. Naruto himself believing Sasuke to be able to do it. Well Practically everyone here has explained it to you. I don't know why you are still not getting it. BlazeRelease wrote: Here's a bonus, Itachi said " Every Jutsu has a weakness". Even your 'invincible' RS. But who said we are just talking about RS? BlazeRelease wrote: And anyways, @Namikaze, weren't you the guy who said that Jiraya can easily counter Naruto's RS with his fire jutsus in a Sage mode Naruto vs Jiraya thread? And didn't I mention in the thread that the fire jutsu used by Jiraiya was of the highest form both in power ,temp and wide-range at that? Do you say same thing for amaterasu? BlazeRelease wrote: Ugh, I'll explain it.You see what Naruto did, was a feat of his stamina. You see Sasuke easily handled himself as a tired, left eye strained Non jinchuriki in a taijutsu match against a guy who is from a clan with high life force, Stamina and chakra, was jinchuriki of Kurama and was using Shadow clones in a 'taijutsu' match. Sasuke easoly managing himself against them is a feat of his taijutsu. Naruto lasting that long is a feat of his stamina. Don't bother trying. Sasuke fought SPSM Naruto when started off, Clearly he would have been outmatched in taijutsu fight so he switched to avatar mode and used Biju's Chakra but even than he was stalemated their. But he was able to push naruto out of SPSM. After that he was practically using taijutsu but than he lost the eyes which were helping him to keep up with naruto after that we know what happened. BlazeRelease wrote: Let me say it like this, Madara is a taijutsu expert. Hashi's taijutsu skill is highly remarked for keeping up with Madara and he with his stamina and life force lasted longer in their fight and finally killed Madara but eveb now Madara is the one who is remarked for his taijutsu skill out of the two. ^Never heard of this one .Infact Madara claims he never beat hashirama as kid even in contests nor as adults. BlazeRelease wrote: just like that Naruto has nice taijutsu skills matching people like Sasuke. What Naruto did at the end of the battle was a result of a tired eye strained Sasuke suddenly losing his other eye's ability too while doing a jutsu that really needs that specific eye ability or will be open to counters like Naruto's without being able to see and react for it like Kakashi. any second longer then Naruto would have been done for. Kurama also remarked on Naruto noticing his eye deactivating. The so-called counter you are claiming has nothing to do with sharingan especially when he was in better position to jab him and that to first. The only possible explanation was that naruto was faster than him and that Sharingan helped sasuke to anticipate such fast counter. Without the Sharingan Sasuke isn't better than naruto in taijutsu. BlazeRelease wrote: me Chapters 3 years after the war that are mainly based on Sasuke and Sasuke only. I will then Point you to it. And I know you can't, Cause Naruto's the only one to have such a oppurtunity, he had a whole movie for himself. Sasuke shinden? the novel where sasuke fights KKG users? And don't try to throw stuff that Sasuke isn't a main character that's why his development wasn't shown even though he has become lot stronger. Either you bring in the feats or don't talk about the stuff here. BlazeRelease wrote: OH! We must alert the Shinobi battles department! That Minato and Obito have mostly lost all of their battles by default. I mean you should have said this earlier, I mean we have interpreted most of their battles as a win until you came.I mean so many battles should be disqualified due to Obito and Minato. Oh and Tobirama, and taht battle where ten tails Madara uses Kamui and Kaguya! Kaguya lost so many battles by default I think you get my point don't you? Time space jutsu is used for fights. If the user comes back again by the next minute then its default. And I said Sasuke can return by that same time space jutsu. Pls go ahead especially if you are suggesting about using the Reverse summoning to run from fight like Sasuke did in Deidara vs Sasuke. That's what you said right? run from destruction using reverse summoning. BlazeRelease wrote: Oh Sasuke dodging a freaking ten km wide jutsu is running away? nice. There's obviously a reason for you to claim it as default, cause you know, this will bring a humungous difference to the fight. Heck what difference it's gonna bring? I could similarly go ahead and say that Naruto uses reverse summoning goes to toad gets himself healed and comes back for the fight each time or stuffs himself with chakra pills. BlazeRelease wrote: Um it's interesting how certain sentences can change with just taking one word away from them. The keyword is Equal. Let me complete the sentence "My father said that Sasuke's the only one who can fight Naruto EQUALLY". Clearly there's a reason for you to ignore that word,isn't there? Well in that case post the translation. That should decide once and for all. Mitsuki only said "It's Actually popular opinion that sasuke san is the only ninja who to ever hold his own against 7th Hokage". And that was with TB chakra which he doesn't has in this fight. BlazeRelease wrote: Can you specify Holding back for me? Sasuke was confused at that time, he brought what he called his best friend to the a place where they had a large emotional impact. If you didn't remember He did say the same thing once. and yet didn't kill Naruto, even with the benifit of amazing power. Sasuke, while believing in his own peace. knew that Naruto also believed in his own peace. In his mind the end of the fight would result in one of them dying. And in Naruto, either both of them being alive or both of them dying together. Sasuke knew that it was his last fight. He wanted to finally measure the difference between them. To finally decide who is stronger hence why the fight was more like DBZ then Naruto shinobi fights, more clashing then any sneak attacks. Sneak attacks would only give the fight a 1/10 measurements due to it won't work if it's done again. But clashing would result in both of them having a 10/10 chance.It was the perfect way of measuring themselves. Stating the obvious again? BlazeRelease wrote: That's why one attacks like CT wasn't done. That's why he didn't use Those CTs against Naruto or Use those Tailed beasts to fight against Naruto thus easily emotionally breaking him out and killing him. And that's why he didn't use Kirin against Base Naruto or non Kurama mode Naruto. Or Chidori Long spear instead of normal Chidori to clash against rasengan. And Ameno chidori. Don't be stupid. Sasuke learnt from mistakes of his predecessor(madara,Obito, Kaguya) Even Kurama appreciated him for his use of TB chakra Naruto showed more than once he could easily break CT. Or even dodge it since he didn't had to protect anyone at that moment. Using the TB was suicide considering he even Destabilized Kaguya(who would have lost had it not been for BZ)/ TTJ Obito in his fights. HE would have just pulled them out and sasuke would have lost his advantage. Infact If Naruto wanted he could have stopped Sasuke from making the first move using the genjutsu on TB. Doesn't Kirin require lot of prep time? Sasuke couldn't use Chidori Sharp spear because he lost the sword in kaguya's dimension. And two it wouldn't pierce through Kurama's cloak just like Orochimaru wasn't able to do it. BlazeRelease wrote: That's why he kept provoking Naruto, insulting him and kept insisting on fighting seriously, it's like Vegeta vs Goku. He want's Naruto to use full power. Maybe you can call him stupid. But he mostly confused, by the darkness, which Naruto himself knows. And maybe it's because his desire of peace was similar to Itachi's. Maybe that's why he wanted to make sure which peace could stay and which cannot. Naruto is equal to Sasuke. That clears everything. If you do compare Naruto and sasuke to Vegeta and goku than you should know who was stronger. And towards the end of momoshiki fight, When Naruto asks him how long is he gonna keep up rivalry business Sasuke says till he becomes better than naruto.