Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181009182009

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I gave you the supporting evidence though. Orochimaru's words "defeat" and "you" are linked by a dash mark. That proves the the top row of panels and middle panel are directly linked in time. In that extremely small interval of time orochimaru got blitzed. you can see the surprise on his face as well as the question mark.

2) Not quite. in chapter 441, For one, shared vision wasn't in play there. they were all standing one behind the other looking straight ahead, meaning the preta path is actually harming the vision of deva and naraka. Their shared vision happens when they are covering different angles, not all the same angles...Two, there was no silohuteete in the smoke naruto threw. Nagato didn't know a rasenshuriken was coming, he had no way of knowing that. if he saw the rasenshuriken then that means he would have seen naruto transforming into it, and he would have seen the other naruto jumping. these two facts debunk the idea that he knew those attacks were coming. he was simply reacting in the moment. as for chapter 443, sure you are right nagato was mentally prepared for the first shuriken, but he wasn't mentally prepared for the second shuriken which was hidden behind the first one. Yet he still had time to mentally react to it and two other naruto clones, and then even dodge successfully, and the rasenshuriken is hypersonic based on the speed at which it crossed the crater behind nagato, all in one second.