Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-6769189-20180830190613

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Naruto in the last uses the same power as hokage Naruto, kurama sage mode. That isn’t speculation. That is a fact. We have seen Naruto in each of his kurama cloaks including his part 1 initial cloak. That is not fact. After The Last Naruto never has the toad Sage eye pigmentation.

No pigmentation= no Sage Mode

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

The notion of naruto’ eyes being in any way relevant to rsm was never supported by canon. There’s nothing in any manga or databook or statement from kishimoto confirming or at the very least suggestion that is true. It is simply speculation. Toad Sage Mode has mustard yellow eyes with horizontal pupils and orange pigmants around the eyes.

KCM has red vertical pupils

KSM has Orange scross shaped eyes with orange pigmants around the eyes.

SPSM has a light yellow color with cross shaped pupils and no pigments around the eyes.

All of these things were directly shown to the viewer on muliple occasions.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Saying that Naruto used kurama mode and sage mode against Momoshiki is nothing but accurate. No its not accurate. No pigmentation around the eyes=no Sage Mode

Cross shaped pupils with no pigmentation= SPSM

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote: Both the databook and kurama himself said more than his own power is needed to gain the juubi’ own. That power is rikudo senjutsu. Rsm requires that power, as everytime Naruto enteres rsm, he had rikudo senjutsu. Again you can fact check this. It’s all in the manga. He used SPSM we already established this. However neither the manga nor the databook corroborate that SPSM is the result of all the Bijuu chakra put together. The databook only said that it SPSM is stronger than KCM.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Then he uses a TSO to make a bijudama rasenshuriken. That means there’s 5 to go before he runs out. These TSB returned to him after he threw it. Using TSB's in a Rasenshuriken doesnt destroy the TSB.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

With more meteors falling, he spawns 7 of the same attack(Presumably, the five central ones used TSOs, while the ones on the end didn’t). Leaving him with no TSOs to spare. In the manga it was 6 not 7. 7 Bijuudama Rasenshuriken was a mistake on the animators part

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

In fact, as IT was casted and while Naruto was protected inside sasuke’ susanoo, he is shown yet again to not have any TSOs on stand by. Once susanoo is released, you can see TSOs returning to Naruto’ back. In ch 678 p12, the 6 TSB's he threw at the meteorites returned to him from off panel, he didnt generate them he had to wait for them to either come back or had to wait for Sasuke's Susanoo to dissepate before the could return to him. Even the anime shows them returning from offscreen, not being formed anew.

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

This isn’t unique to Naruto either. Not only was Madara’ lower half able to generate not a whole new set of TSO, Those are Hagoromo's TSB's he brought them with him from the afterlife or whatever. He is shown with them as a ghost in Naruto/Sasuke's subconscious

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

His top half was used to make an ETSO. All this took place after madara he no TSOs as well.

So yes, beyond any doubt TSOs can in fact replenish. The ETSB is Kaguya's ability, not Madara's. Kaguya is they only character shown/stated to create TSB of any kind

Hag0r0m0 0htsutsuki wrote:

Vestige; look at the word’ full definition. Do not selectively read. Vestige means something is missing and/or lost, from that lost item only a trace or a sign remains. What is clear here is that the vestiges is not longer usable as it once. Since we know the biju went after the war, they aren’t lost. What is lost are the fragments inside Naruto. What‘s left of those lost fragments are the psychic connections between him and them. The same connection Gaara proved he had while also not having any biju chakra. That’s what those vestiges are. They were already proven too low to sustain Naruto’ life, with time they’ve only gotten smaller until they became what they are now: vestiges. Look up examples of vestiges if you’re having difficulty understand how those fragments are being described. Egypt’s hieroglyphs are vestiges. The literal last two drop of water in a container are vestiges. They both represent something greater that was lost over time. I’m sure a google search would bring you more examples. Vestige can also mean a tiny amount.