Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180814174256/@comment-34194151-20180816220623

Like I said ABC logic doesn't always work when comparing damage. By that logic, Base bee lariat is stronger than light speed travel and chidori because the latter two did neglible to 0 damage to A4, and they were piercing/shredding attacks respectively, while Bee's lariat knocked A4 out of his raiton armor. Naruto's strongest attack at the time was a piercing attack. Guy uses blunt force and hirudora is an explosion of air pressure. Hirudora can't be directly compared to rasenshuriken, completely different techniques in how they injure the opponent. Hirudora argubaly destroyed V3 susano'o, and a weakened version put down kisame, the same guy who laughed off a V2 lariat from bee, and kisame's durability and chakra are bijuu levels by themself, and he was amped by bee's chakra a bit. The third raikage is also bijuu level. So there are comparisons that suggest that guy can at least harm him, but he probably won't finish him. Like i already admitted, 7 gates guy won't be able to finish raikage, he would need 8 gattes.

There is no proof that kcm's rasenshuriken is faster than sage mode, even if we gave A3 that, he still failed to blitz the likes of dodai. His speed isn't a decisive factor in the slightest against 7 gates guy, the same dude who pressured a TTJ with his speed and taijutsu prowess, the same TTJ who is way faster than either raikage, and the same TTJ who embarrased minato on the first move.