User talk:VisionOfPeaceZ

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Your edits have been reverted by not just one person, but another. Take that as a hint. Your edit is not helpful. If you re-add it back, I will report you. --Rai 水 (talk) 14:35, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * But that user was heavily contradictory in his own edit summaries. Why is it that he was continuously able to spam undo edits for such a long period of time? Why is a person like him allowed to freely violate other's rights and not leave it to the admins to decide on the information themselves. You saw how he undid a Naruto episode page, yet the information stated was completely applicable and also he reverted your's himself. Lacking the authority to do any of it. I don't know why you had reverted the edit when I corrected sentences grammatically and the last paragraph where only singular "Kage" was mentioned but I changed it to the plural "Kages" or else that would mean only one Kage alongside him was participating. Where are the actual admins of this wiki? Have they abandoned it? Plus, it was only reverted by ONE annoying user at the time.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 14:44, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Kages is not a valid plural. The word "Kage" refers to both the singular and the plural. --Sajuuk 14:55, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * It is a valid plural in Japanese, as a suffix would be added to it in order to make it plural. Since the word is Japanese, it is actually plural when applied to the English Language. The term for plural Hokage has been rendered "Hokages" when mentioning more than one. It is actually correct. Just with a non-specific allocation.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 14:59, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * The user you are speaking of was blocked. There was no serious grammatical issues that you fixed. You also added "the" to Akatsuki and "Tailed Beast" to Version 2, which is wrong. --Rai 水 (talk) 15:02, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Whether it's a valid plural in Japanese is not relevant, as the series does not refer to them with that pluralised form in any way at all (at no point is "Kages" or "Hokages" ever used, when they talk about multiple previous leaders, they just say "Kage" or "Hokage"). Thus, this is a non-issue. --Sajuuk 15:12, August 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually, you stated the plural in Japanese is not relevant. Then let's look at the English as it IS relevant. The English Dub for the series uses the term Kage/Hokage with an "s" when referring to plurals. Now, you can't go saying they are wrong as their typewriters are educated in the English Language and any carryover words of the original language would be null, therefore saying "s" with these terms in correct. You are wrong. Since, you DID say that the Japanese plural is not relevant, I had to bring in the English version then. These writers are educated in the English language, the reason they have been hired to write the translated script for the series. They mention "the" before mentioning the Akatsuki as would be mentioned before any group or force, e.g. "The Police", "The Cops" not Cops on its own. Not "Cops charged in", you can see how it is incorrect. Since we are talking English here, applying the "s" to any carryover word is the same if speaking of them in reference. So you are incorrect, as the English version of the series DOES use a pluralised form, check it yourself before any contradictions. Sure, it may not have been a huge grammatical issue but it was not stated "Version 2" of what, as it is incorrect as a standalone word (even if the subject being referenced is a jinchuriki or such), so in terms the page itself is wrong for just stating Version 2, once again, even if it referencing a character like a jinchuriki because instead it should be something along "Tailed Beat" Chakra Mode/Cloak/etc. Version 2, which is correct. Knowing that this is a fanwiki and obviously not an official one, there are bound to be many mistakes and errors here and there. Seeing as some people do not know how to use plurals correctly, check this |page.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 15:26, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't even bothering reading that long ass paragraph. Point is, you have three users telling you that your edits was not helpful, so you can try to keep explaining yourself all you want, but revert those edits again and you will be blocked. --Rai 水 (talk) 15:30, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Basically, you know that I am correct but one user is a revert spammer. This wiki is lost without a true admin. Stop being a sourpuss. You think what you are doing is right, but truth is that you can't handle it. Weaboo much?--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 15:32, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * We're using Japanese terms and there is no pluralised form of these terms in Japanese. There is no 一つ影, 二つ影s etc., there's only 一つ影, 二つ影. In Japanese, plurals almost don't exist, the only way to pluralise a word is by making it a group (ex. 影達). I assume that you can read these words, no?
 * Also, I have no clue where you get that stuff about the wiki being lost from. We have plenty good users, plenty good admins, so we're doing fine. No idea what you actually want^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 15:35, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Again as I said, I also reverted your edits, but through the rollback button, so you would not see it unless you go to the page itself and look at its history. And @Tau (an admin and japanese translator) just said, there is no specific plural term for Kage, as it represents both. Now you saying that the wiki is lost is far from the truth. --Rai 水 (talk) 15:38, August 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually, the plural term does apply to the Japanese language, just on slightly difference occasions than English. You seem to have misunderstood as I was referring to Kages as a whole as not just one as indicated by (一つ影), also we are talking about a pluralised group here. The (達) character is exactly what I was talking about. Depending on whether one is talking about a group or object the pluralisation of a word is changed. In Japanese, it could also sound like general counting but is specifically applied to objects. Difference is that English uses "s" in most cases to refer to a plural whereas Japanese varies depending on whether the subject is a group, person (singular), item or object. So actually, these forms do have a plural form with the (達), no different than using (s) in English. Also not at the moment, fanwikis such as this have many admins-type users on a power-search.
 * The wiki is doing just fine? Haha. The rollback button is already clear, there is no evidence on the wiki activity page to signal that it has been reverted, a Rollback's job to basically being a back-tracker. Actually, as I mentioned above, the character signifies a plural when referring to the group, read the manga in Japanese and you will see when it refers to the Kage or Hokage as a group, it is pluralised by (達), which may seem different to English due to the difference in linguistics and Japanese being a more complicated language. But essentially, it is the same.
 * No need to reply to this, don't really time for it. Just clarifying my point.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 15:53, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, that's why when we'd translate 影達, we'd translate it as "Shadows". But we don't translate it, so it remains as "Kage". • Seelentau 愛 議 15:58, August 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * That was my point. But the Official Dub uses (s) most times when referring to the Kage. Which is the translation of the (達) as a plural. At least someone understand what I am saying, I give you credit for that.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 16:00, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Well you also don't have to be here. What are you going to be the one save the wiki because we are "lost". Give me a break. Not even you could run the wiki better. Right now, you are just a random user who wants to get mad because his edits got reverted. If you were to leave, nobody would miss you. --Rai 水 (talk) 16:16, August 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Get angry much? I never said I want to be here, but with the continuous posts on the talk page, I am kind of forced to reply. I never meant literally "lost". You just seem upset. I never said I could, so stop speculating. A wiki is a community, so why are you saying talking about me running the wiki? That's the bureaucrat's job, which is not even present. When I said "lost", I meant the main runner, the bureaucrat, is absent most of the time because of their own business. I don't know what it is, they are here at times, but gone most of the time. That aside, I am not mad that my edits got reverted. I just found it strange how one user could continuously revert edits and has only been blocked until now. I mean seriously, what's with the "Unnecessary fluff is unnecessary" and "Useless fluff is fluff".

See, that's what I am talking about? His edit summaries are bad enough, and not justified. Anyways, I sorted my problem. Plus, you referred Seelentau to me anyways and he seemed to understand what I was saying, so I don't know what's your problem? Because he understood what I was saying? I don't care if nobody misses me, heck this place is half empty anyways. I know I said it seems "lost" but AT LEAST Seelentau seems to know what he is talking about.--VisionOfPeaceZ (talk) 16:25, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

This user should go as well since they're clearly a sock-puppet of Redemption72. Munchvtec (talk) 17:27, August 19, 2017 (UTC)