Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26145872-20160224202704/@comment-24163532-20160316074715

@MLG I never had to debate you before, but now I see your points are horribly put. In this case at least. "If it wasn't for the nine tails, naruto would also have infinite sage mode and he would do better than jiraiya by even more of a long shot." What is the point of bringing it up? It doesn't matter why he can't or what he'd do if he could, he can't so talking about if he could or why he can't is pointless. "Wrong, because naruto's chakra control was horrible in part one, and even though he could make a lot of clones in part one, the clones were alot weaker back then. By the pain fight the clones were alot more durable. You are forgetting that unlike other clone techniques, the shadow clone technique is an even split of one's chakra. Jiraiya doesn't have the liberty of spamming shadow clones like naruto does." Are you mental? If Naruto in part one could spam hundreds of clones but couldn't summon Gamabunta, then Gamabunta obviously takes up more Chakra, if it does not, prove it, because this is proof. Jiraiya can summon Gamabunta, therefore can make hundreds of clones. To deny Jiraiya the right of his impressive class 5/5 reserves which is needed to even LEARN Sage Mode, is bias. "Naruto also had access to ultra big ball rasengan so moot point." The more your post goes on, I question your intelligence. WHO CARES IF HE HAS IT? The point is Ultra Big Ball would work on a Pein Baka. Rasenshuriken isn't needed to kill them. "Naruto is just as intelligent and wise as jiraiya." LOL BIGGEST MOST HORRIBLE STATEMENT I EVER HEARD. Even Kishimoto states Naruto is an idiot. Kishimoto went so far as to make him only a 1 in intelligence! A 1! That's how Kishi feels about Naruto's intelligence that you seem to think is on Jiraiya's level. After reading that, i'm not even gonna read the rest of your statement, that last one was pure fanboy biasim. Jiraiya is one of the most intellectual characters in the series, and you are gonna say Naruto who's a dimwit majority of the times, is just as smart.