Forum:Character and Jutsu Names

I'm just curious...why are all the character names backwards? In the manga releases, as well as in the original Japanese (I confess I don't watch the anime, so I'm not sure if it's the same there), the names of the characters are Clan name, First name. So why are we calling them Sasuke Uchiha, Naruto Uzumaki, and Sakura Haruno? I mean, if this has already been discussed, please pardon me, but if it hasn't, shouldn't we stick as close to the original Japanese as possible? Jhbartlett 20:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Uchiha Sasuke, Uzumaki Naruto, Haruno Sakura, etc., etc.


 * This is an english speaking (I would assume, as I can read everything) Wikia. Therefore, we go by Given Name first, then Clan/Family name second. Its just an English Speaking thing.--TheUltimate3 21:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but in the English-speaking manga, their names are even given "clan name, first name". Besides, I would also argue for the different jutsus to be given their Japanese names, then English translations...aka: Although I think that might be how it's set up already...not sure. But mostly, I'm saying we should stick as close to the Japanese as possible, while still being comprehensible. Really, I just like how the manga does it in terms of names and jutsus. And the words ninjutsu, taijutsu, and genjutsu all come from Kanji...why aren't we translating those into ninja arts, physical arts, and illusory arts?
 * Kagebunshin no jutsu! (Art of the Shadow Doppelganger)...which is how it's done in the manga.
 * I prefer the Japanese for some too. Others I feel its much easier to use the direct english translation. (For example: on Wikipedia there was a debate going on about a Seal placed on Naruto. One Editor kept refering it as the Shiki Fujin, and I was completely lost. It wasn't until someone called it Dead Demon Consuming Seal did I finally get it.) However it would be MUCH MUCH easier to deal with stuff if they were in a language the majority could use. With that said the reason why we don't translate thoes to Ninja Arts, Illusionary Arts, yada yada yada is because for the most part, we are following Wikipedia's design. If I have read want Dantman has said, we are trying to use Wikipedia as a base as there is another Wiki somewhere using Original stuff. Same reason why we don't translate the Kekkei Genkai's.--TheUltimate3 22:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I didn't recognize the ice kekkei genkai by name earlier...well, ok, I say there needs to be a translation under some of the less familiar names, but for the most part, try as best as you can to go with the Japanese. Translation is like one step removed from the actual canon. It's one word, I think...shikifūjin...maybe. I'm not sure. But still...increase your knowledge of the subject, you know? Jhbartlett 22:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Which is why we use direct translation. Take Katon: Goukakyu no Jutsu. "no Jutsu" means Technique, the "no" doesn't really mean anything. Goukakyu stands for Great Fireball, and we all know Katon means Fire Release. This way we use the easier to use english version while still keeping the direct meaning.--TheUltimate3 22:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)