Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-26107879-20180908095328

1) Did Obito's wrist change positioning? Did his hand go from facing forward to facing up as Minato moved his hand? Was his hand not open then closed around his wrist? That's by far more than an inch of movement. You can say he was surprised, but the fact is all this movement occurred while Minato was already slashing and going through Obito. Kamui is cool. But it doesn't give Obito the speed move his arm faster than Absolute Ay. If Obito's hand speed is slower than absolute Ay, then how can Obito turn his hand a full 180 and close his fingers around him? He shouldn't even be able to wiggle a finger if that was the case.

2) And you haven't explained why Ay couldn't move a foot forward or grab this "stationary" item. Makes no sense. Or explained why the Kunai isn't by Ay's arm after Minato teleports and we get a clear view of where Ay is. The kunai isn't visible while the rest are which means it's likely already passing his shoulder where a bunch of dark coloring is. So in an instant it's already a few feet forward. If the kunai can move further than Ay in the same time frame, then it is moving faster. You also haven't explained why Ay would be slowing down if he was. Why would someone who watches a Kunai you know your opponent is going to teleport to, pass them by and not grab it, and even just slow down to allow that opponent to get behind you to where you can't react? Ay could definitely move his arms since he did so to try to punch Minato. Logic will show that if Minato moved his hand faster than Absolute Ay, then that added force would be applied to the kunai in that hand as it is released.

3) As for Tobirama. The evidence is Madara vs the Kage. Obviously Madara has no trouble keeping up with Ay. He has to be able to hit him to beat him after all. Tobirama is already stated to be faster than him. Shunshin showed Minato is faster than Tobirama. They both used Shunshin, so both had their speed increased by the same technique. So all that's left is foot speed. And Hashirama and Tobirama had to move to Obito to get to him. They did in an instance.