Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20150902161700/@comment-24808887-20150905211402

Ravenlot 27 yes but same time your "facts" do not apply to Uchihas it is stange. Ok now about battle(with OP's conditions) as i said Koto a) has only two carges and then years long CD and b) We don't know how Koto can be aplied into battle - all we know Koto can chage person judgment Mifune and Sasuke, in first case it weared off as soon as Mifune was informed about faling victim Koto and Sasuke never got under it c) Only time when Koto was permanent was agains ET - tech wich has no own will. Now Madara yes he can see Wood clone but there is real one here who is more powerful that EMS+Kurama so he has no time to help others with clones, now Sasuke even if he can see Wood clones he can't do so with Shadow Clones of Naruto and Tobirama. One thing that was still not pointed out: by condition wich OP gave SM Naruto is stronger than SM Naruto from Pain arc cause he can use Sage Art: Amphibian Technique - and makes Naruto>=EMS Sasuke - he can now just spam FRS at his heart's content(and even Danzo's Air Bullets were poreful enough to tear Susanoo) Now about Wood Clones power i hope you understand that Hashi were weakened by Four Red Yang Formation and didn't had enough chakra to give it to clones - considering Hashi can take both Madara and Kurama at once - fighting only Madara has no enough evidence to conclude that Wood clones will be considerably weakened. Now with clones matter dealed we have at least 3 clone spammer - Hashi, Tobirama and Naruto. Itachi is best of Uchihas in one vs one by but can't be as efficient against many and clones work great against him(shown by Kakashi in Kazekage rescue arc), Izuna is fodder who is soloed by Tobirama on easy, DMS Obito is even weaker than - Tobi cause of "they can only use their own power." he don't have Zetsu half wich leaves him without healing factor, stamina, and undegenerating MS cheat last one affect Kamui efficiency so DMS Obito from VS get nerfed most. And women can support: heal, replenish chakra and use barriers. So yes Uchihas still lose for not having nuke aoe techs in their arsenal to deal with clones and stamina of Senju.