Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-38812954-20190831032416/@comment-38812954-20190922172418

@Squinty:

"Just because some people did you wrong doesn't give you some sort of pass to condemn an entire group of people. Tbh that reminds me of people who are toxic to their significant others but blame it on previous significant others doing them wrong, so they're defensive. It's not an excuse to treat people badly."

Lol. True.

"Again, empathizing doesn't mean I agree with you."

Also true.

"Okay, but let's use this violin scenario. Essentially, you're saying, "Why doesn't this violin player play this piece for their competition? They've obviously gotten better, and it would help them win." And I'm saying, "They can't play that piece because it's too difficult. If they could play it well enough for competition, they would have played it and one of their more important previous competitions. They've never shown that technical skill." And you're saying "no but trust me they can play it this time."

Loooool

"But that's not how discussing a "plothole" works. There are legitimate plot holes in this series, but they're actually based on fact. I even have examples if you want them. But this hypothetical scenario isn't a plothole."

Yeah sure. Lol I just think other things could have happened in sasuke's favour. So I labeled it that. But it's true what you said. If those things happened it would disrupt the flow of the series. So I should have called this thread. 'Naruto vs Sasuke alternate battle scenarios. Things that could have happened but didnt' and this would be in either's favour. I'll edit it right now.

"Isshiki is obviously much stronger and faster than Naruto. Sasuke had trouble keeping up with his Sharingan as well."

Man come on. You're not defensive when comes to isshiki about naruto's sensing (he clearly could have dodge that long distant punch) but you're super defensive when it comes to my attack with amaterasu? And even if he didn't dodge. Naruto's enhanced strength granted to him by Sage mode plus kurama's chakra could have atleast took the hit, display a little bit of hurt then look to strike back. That's a more realistic and considering all we know about six paths Sage mode scene to me.

"If Madara broadened his Light fang, then he'd lose piercing power because all the force of Light Fang would be distributed over a wide area. It's like how stepping on a nail will stab you, but laying on a bed of nails is harmless."

More like turning on a flood light or bright light that would f*$k the shit out of your eyes close up. But in this case it's your body.

"Again, if Naruto couldn't dodge the attack, the fact that it's so spread out means it has less power, and therefore is less likely to pierce his cloak."

Fire and light in this context would be two different things. This means that madara's majestic destroyer flame would've had no effect on the ASF ninja if they didn't put up that water wall. And I more think if the light fang spread out like that (longer radius and diameter. Bigger circumference etc) It would be another version of onoki's particle style.

"I don't watch dbz"

Looool.

"You can't just take the force of a small attack and say it'll be the same widespread. Take a bullet for example. There's a small amount of gunpowder in them, but the energy is enough to shoot it extremely fast, but only so long as all the force is concentrated to a point. If I stood next to the amount of gunpowder in a bullet and let it explode next to me, it wouldn't seriously hurt me because the force is too spread out."

Dude. I swear. If the animators and my thoughts somehow sync and they use that attack I made up in the anime or Manga. (just as a sighter to prove to you that it's possible). I am going to brag endlessly. Seriously man XXXDD such a stubborn smart ass. Have you atleast watched My Hero Academia? Do you know the character Bakugo? Or Kacchan? His ability is exactly how my attack with amaterasu would be, (but still more like a straight forward tailed beast bomb explosion of black flames).

"Lightning Release is better at piercing chakra, why wouldn't he focus on Lightning Release to get through Naruto's cloak? Since Amaterasu was useless in every instance of a chakra cloak. "Using your imagination to amplify" That's the issue right there. You're irritated at me for pointing out flaws in your scenario, but your scenarios are built upon imagination and aren't supported by the series."

It's an instance where I think a certain kind of attack with amaterasu would be effective. Don't forget, 'Naruto vs Sasuke final battle, alternate battle scenarios. Things that could have happened but didn't'

They are supported by the series; Sasuke's susanoo being a visual representation of the extent and capacity of his chakra argument. My hits intensely argument. Change in chakra form. Naruto's sensing vs an attack, with a wider scope or longer radius and diameter, and bigger circumference (edited this in) argument. etcc.

"Amaterasu is the highest form or fire release, it burns intensely compared to regular fire. But that's still slow compared to Shinobi reactions."

XDD sigh man

"Several people have noticed how dense Naruto's chakra is. equal size does not mean equal mass, which means not equal chakra."

It's true. Sasuke's susanoo feels and looks more like glass. Naruto's is more of squishy fluidy golden lava. But. Both of them are still large chakra and powerful. If one exerts more power than the other in a moment. It's to the others detriment.

"Your reply doesn't sufficiently answer anything. And yess, techniques are made to look cool, but they're also made to make sense with the story and established lore."

Sigh dude. I wonder what you'd think about a black flame fire ball jutsu. Do you think that's impossible for sasuke to?

"Yes, Sasuke can't put the necessary force behind the attack."

Not even in his CBS?

"Listen, you say you're using imagination. That's fine. But you're giving Sasuke abilities he doesn't have. That's like me giving Itachi Chidori because he could theoretically use the technique. He never used it, so it's not in his arsenal during a debate. Sasuke never used the force your implying, so it doesn't make sense to use it in a debate. We can only go by what they've shown and what Kishimoto says."

There you go again, 'He never used it, so it's not in his arsenal during a debate. Sasuke never used the force your implying, so it doesn't make sense to use it in a debate. We can only go by what they've shown and what Kishimoto says.' One of my replies replies to this. Stop underestimating the capacity of sasuke's chakra. He's the other half of Hagoromo, or has the other half of Hagoromo's two large chakras.

"Yeah no still not wrong about Amaterasu and you still haven't proven anything contrary. Again, you're giving Sasuke power he simply has never shown and has never implied to have."

Sighh

"None of your replies answers how Naruto wouldn't sense Sasuke's massive build up of chakra."

Loool

"Already answered this."

Loool

"Watch it again then, have fun."

Lool

"Still no sufficient reply"

The anime should do it.

"You're repeating paragraphs that don't answer or counter anything"

Yep they do. You're just being intentionally blind.

"Amaterasu hits intensely but so slow that every Shinobi worth his salt avoided it."

But burns*? The amaterasu being fired in the way I described won't. And would be effective and more powerful and destructive. Naruto with his sublime sensing would dodge right into. Stomach portion. Hind leg. Sasuke moves in. Ends the life of Naruto.

"They had their free will" They could only talk freely. If they had free will then they wouldn't have attacked. Lol again, I don't own facts, and they don't fail or pass people. Facts just exist, and I'm only reminding you of them. You act like I'm fabricating them."

Don't forget the tags he put in behind their necks. They act under that certain instruction. Their wills are free to the extent of that instruction but when kabuto takes over (like we've seen with Mui, the mummy Kage. Using him to talk to madara) it's a totally different story. They have absolutely no will at all.

"The flesh that dropped off eventually did, yes. Eventually. And yes, I imagine being set on fire is painful, that's not a revelation. Still burns slow compared to Shinobi though."

Still would be more powerful if fired in the way I described though.

"I'm sorry, you're asking me, if Sasuke can sense the other half of Hagoromo's chakra, who he is intrinsically linked to, across dimensions, why can't he summon the Gedo statue out of another dimension?"

I'm sure he can. If he can summon a hawk into another dimension and with the gedo mazo being an ultimate pawn to the rinnegan. It's possible. Though summoning a hawk (with his level of power and chakra) is different to the gedo. But the ultimate fact is that, it's a pawn to the rinnegan. Subject to the rinne, so I think it's possible.

"When did sensing the other half of your chakra cost the same amount of chakra as summoning a life force like the Gedo statue?"

Hawk. Pawn to the rinne. Plus. Obito wasn't fighting to kill with the gedo. He was trying to get chakra. The tailed beasts chakra. If sasuke fights to kill with the gedo it's problems for Naruto. Phantom dragon jutsu. Gedo mazo chains etcc. Plus it's so much bigger than N's kurama avatar.

"Glad you aren't meaning to insult me then."

Yep

"Little tiny pieces of metal aren't a great feat. It even still took them a second, for such tiny pieces of metal."

XXXDDD Smfh

"Jogging pace still slow."

Hits intensely. Way I described if fired. More powerful

"Susanoo isn't a representation of chakra levels, Sasuke's chakra levels are higher than that, just like Naruto's is higher than his displayed chakra Avatar."

It shows in one way how large his chakra is then and how powerful.

"Slow burning rate relative to Shinobi reactions, still."

Loool

"Already answered this."

Lool

"It's a jutsu you invented, along with bigger chakra reserves for Sasuke."

Wow, 'Susanoo isn't a representation of chakra levels, Sasuke's chakra levels are higher than that, just like Naruto's is higher than his displayed chakra Avatar.'

"Okay, if you're finished, see ya"

In terms of editing.

@Rgema. Yeah. As soon as they came in range. Swap places with them. Let them fly toward anything else other sasuke. then fire his arrow at Naruto. And woahh 😂, crafty thinking man and he could have still fired his arrow along with all of that. And possibly. But does he even know how to do the flying raijin?