Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34194151-20180808231117

@Jason at this point,

I think LegionZero has argued their points well assuming the battle was in bullet time. It also seems to be the most likely case... So imo, its not that naruto had Plot induced stupidity, its that Obito got a speedboost, which is not surprising given kakashi's plot power up. So war Arc obito has KCM speeds. I don't have enough experience with bullet time in manga to deny the point, but it does seem reasonable.

The only thing I disagree with though is saying pre War arc obito is faster than V2 raikage. Raikage actually tagged minato with his pure blitzing speed, while obito did no such thing. He sneaked up on Minato and relied on kamui to tag him. Then they both ran at each other, and obito used kamui + CQC speed ( not running speed) to actually tag him with the chain. But that stopped working once Minato figured out how to beat kamui. Even Base Gai has the same CQC speed as obito, and obito only had the edge due to sharingan.