Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34277398-20180509212801/@comment-6769189-20180515115254

LoneNinja wrote:

1) Oh, but logic only applies when you want it to though? Wow, are you the writer or something? Did you help create the series? No? Then who are you to say that? No one? Interesting. I also want to point out your initial statement that we're regarding isn't even legit. After all, the worlds largest boomerrang that can return towards you is about 9 feet after all and it's arch is way more larger than what is shown of the Rasenshuriken.

2) Actually he doesn't. It does not move an inch backwards until it is detonated. Naruto can expand and detonate his Rasenshuriken at will to make up for when he misses, this is true. He missed against Toneri, so that's what he did. He forced an expansion and detonation. That doesn't mean he can remotely control it in the air. In fact. LoneNinja wrote: I also like how you neglect the fact Naruto missed right after that. He threw the Rasenshuriken at the main target and yet it dodged and Naruto couldn't remotely control it to hit the target from behind despite having the opportunity to do so. Instead, he missed and went in with Rasengan even though the target was a great distance away and looking towards him. Odd, when he can remotely control it and could of had it redirected to strike it from behind as it wasn't looking. It turned around. It changed angle and everything, started moving to the left before expanding before expanding. If you dont want to believe that then there is the scene during the puppets attempt to kidnap Hinata and puppets were arranged in 2 rows and Naruto took them out by slicing through each row with 1 Rasenshuriken and it literally flies in the opposite direction on the screen.

Princeharris1993 wrote: It's not canon. Reason is because Kishimoto himself said that Genjutsu can't kill someone by itself. That has always remained true. Only when Genjutsu is combined with Senjutsu can it be used offensively. Even if the novel was adapted into the anime, its still not canon. Kishimoto's word remains law, especially when it comes to fundamental concepts.

If someone like Mifune can be told that his choices aren't his own, causing him to essentially be released from Koto, someone like Obito, who is a Uchiha and has the clan dojutsu, can most definitely break out of Tsukuyomi. Normal genjutsu wouldnt kill someone but Tsukuyomi iamt a normal genjutsu. It was enough to leave Kakashi comatose and in order to do that it would have to cause incredible strain and mental/physical damage. The only person who could fix him was Tsunade and she isnt a psychologist. Taking that into account it almost seems like Tsukuyomi causes brain damage at worst, or puts the body into intense shock, which could kill someone.

As for Mifune, no one said/stated he wasnt under the genjutsu anymore. Knowing that he was under control may have lead him to make the decision that he couldnt be trusted as a neutral party. He was only made to believe that the leaf the best choice, not to defend this position to any degree. Taking into account how Koto works, Mifune may very well still believe that the Leaf was the best choice and will believe it until the day he dies.