Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26704954-20160301064038/@comment-27660682-20160303020143

Ok then it makes sense that tsunade and dan dont know hashirama and madara true power, so they have no baseline for whether or not hiruzen could beat them right ?

Ah yea madara was technically a big target. Retreating wouldn't do anything I think, hashirama fired off the hands in close range. Ok so yea he won't have to deal with it directly necessarily... but what technique does he have to damage hashirama when he is on that thing? Hashirama can cancel any elements he uses with his own top budda, and hiruzen doesn't have an ability to get close unless he has flying rajin. Thenthere is hashirama's healing factor. What firepower does he have to take hashriama down?