Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170904204034/@comment-33308438-20171010152201

Kakashisologod1 wrote: Do you really think sasuke could defeat 6 paths of pain?Heck,SM naruto could not do it,what makes you think sasuke can?Pain admitted if jiraya had knowledge,he was done for.Show me where sasuke was faster than jiraya in SM.Sasuke got outspeeded by sick,holding back itachi.Madara pushed away naruto`s rasengan before it exploded.And jiraya does not need to destroy it,he can simply outlast sasuke.If it can hit jiraya,jiraya can use smoke bombs to block sasukes field of vison.Danzo`s wood release, not hashiramas.Yamato was called the best wood user,but he was nothing compared to hashi.Sasuke couldnt do jack shit to A before he activated susano+amaterasu and even then the only reason he wounded him was because A was crazy mad cause he thought B was dead and sasuke was cause of it. Lol, what do you actually mean by "show me a speed feat which puts Sasuke above SM Jiraiya" , like literally I just showed you one there , Sasuke hitting A, who in turn was surprised and told " he hit me and penetrated my armor?" Which means thats a legit feat not A going crazy and got his speed lowered than base speculation you just put forward.

I got nothing against jiraiya or anything, dont get me wrong, but Sasuke is way above his league , if it was Hebi Sasuke , he would've stood a chance.

You're acting like danzo invented that wood release, when he clearly implanted hashirama's cells in himself. What I'm telling is danzo is not only more durable than before, SusanoO arrow pierced through that tree and you do know that in narutoverse, wood is considered more durable than stone, I mean hashirama cell-oriented wood element.

Well if you remember that scene where pain was expressing his worries that Sasuke has formed a team, which is Taka , and would be a threat to Akatsuki. So pain himself is lowkey admitting that Taka consisting of just five members are more than enough to face them on equal footing clearly implying Sasuke Hebi version could take on pain and literally even beat him.

Coming back to the point, Rasengan clearly exploded, you could see all the rocks shattering under madara's footing. Senpou rasengan which can be considered jiraiya's most used attack is useless.

Also I don't understand why you're acting like itachi is waaaaaaay toooo sloooow a shinobi, even though without even using full power , his speed was already more than sharingan pre-cog could handle. Not to mention, 30% itachi was still treating team 7 in part two, like little kids, that too the battle was for stalling, not defeating. This is also a kakashi who beat guy 49 times before part one as gai stated himself, so I'll let you do the math on the power level of part two kakashi backed up by chiyo,sakura,and naruto vs 30% itachi.

Jiraiya's speed feats consists of beating pain in SM in taijutsu, who got manhandled by a mere genin like konohamaru.

So considering all these factors, it's clearly a low diff win for Sasuke not to mention.

Jiraiya doesn't have a counter for Kirin. Nor does he have the speed to dodge it. Though it wouldn't be necessary.