Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180607192958/@comment-34194151-20180829205431

@Acidfilledhats,

Nope you are wrong. Pain had no trouble absorbing sage mode attacks, he did it plenty of times against both jiraiya and naruto, because the nature energy within them was perfectly balanced. When pain started absorbing raw nature energy from naruto directly, naruto wasn't balancing it so pain was absorbing raw senjutsu chakra, and he had no skills in balancing it with his own reserves. He absorbed far too much raw energy and turned into a frog. so plz recheck your headcanon on that.

the kyuubi avatar already resisted nagato's shinra tensei, and its roar knocked back bijuus. All he has to do is root the chakra arms in the ground and deflect the shinra tensei back at nagato as per canon. The bigger the shinra tensei that nagato uses without actually putting distance between himself and minato, the larger the cool down. Minato may have less experience with kurama than naruto, but you forget kurama is also a decent tactician and will also be helping him. By the end of the war minato was able to do bijuu damas and also control 9 chakra arms similiar to how naruto did.

Basic Shinra tensei on the boss frogs? Who says that was a basic shinra tensei? there was no proof of that. Kakashi tanked like 3 basic shinra tensei without any problems, and he isn't even top tier when it comes to endurance and durability. The biggest problem with shinra tensei is colliding into the ground/other objects, not the actual push it self. Even CST failed to kill a tired Tsunade and many fodders, so shinra tensei isn't killing minato, who can easily teleport to a safehaven after being pushed, he will never hit the ground. plus CST is highly telegraphed because nagato has to mould massive amounts of chakra for that.

And also, you grossly overestimate nagato's reflexes and speed, and downplay minato's. Nagato is fast, but he isn't anywhere near minato levels of speed. Even black zetsu could sense the pressure build-up from amaterasu, and he isn't a combat type. V2 ei couldn't even react to minato's level 2 FTG, and he is the same dude that can dodge amaterasu like it's nothing. Minato tagged an "untouchable opponent" when he fought Tobi using his speed and tactics with FTG. And yes being caught by shurado arms are countered by FTG. Minato was caught by tobi's chains, and the next second he was already teleporting to safety. As someone already stated in this thread, 5 seconds might as well be an eternity for someone of minato's speed. Ningendo isn't tagging minato either, not with his reflexes that are on par with a raiton user.

How is nagato getting on his bird without being tagged? Start fair. Standard distance is 30 feet, nagato opens with summons IC. Minato can close that distance in under a second. First nagato has to form a handseal, while he does that minato is already throwing like 6 kunai, 3 of which should be behind him, and starting to run towards him. No knowledge means nagato treats the kunai like they are regular kunai, he won't waste a shinra tensei on kunai not directly aimed at him. It takes a second for the summoning to finish resolving, and nagato then needs a physical action to actually jump on top of his bird, then the bird has to take flight. Minato is faster, so he is getting to him before that. Nagato isn't doing a massive omnidirectional shinra tensei with his summons near him, that would be counter-productive. so when he goes for it minato is caught off guard, but he can near immediately teleport back to the kunai he threw and then blitz nagato. Being able to see/sense something coming doesn't mean you can react. It's rock lee vs sasuke all over again. Nagato is getting tagged without knowledge at the start of the match. He will understand what minato's ability is, but he is still in for a long battle. When has nagato shed his skin? Scan plz. and how is he going to remove the mark exactly? an FTG mark can't be removed except for extraordinary circumstances. Juubito, a god of shinobi, couldn't remove tobirama's seal, so good luck to nagato.

Nagato's only chance to win this fight are A: if Preta Path can shut off FTG, but there is reason to believe it can't considering a TTJ, who can nullify all ninjutsu, couldn't.  or B: outlasting minato, which is all fine except for the fact he doesn't have a healing factor. His high durability and endurance won't allow him to heal wounds, which would sap his stamina faster. We have seen that even the ashura path can bleed. Minato could slice through hachibi like butter with his kunai in base, and also seemed confident in his ability to harm ei with his kunai. Minato is a wind type user, so he probably used that to increase penetration/cutting.