Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-24037840-20151204234353/@comment-26005711-20151206210235

Don't underestimate the Jiraiya. When he is in SM, Shima can summon all frogs and Jiraiya can try his genjutsu (he caught 3 Pains in genjutsu, Orochimaru is one person plus if Shima summons all frogs Orochimaru will have big problem to dodge genjutsu). I don't see the way how can Orochimaru beat SM Jiraiya. He is much better in Genjutsu and Taijutsu, and he has Fukasaku and Shima to help him. Orochimaru will lose in good fight, I don't underestimate the Orochimaru but Jiraiya is monster when he is in SM. Jiraiya is faster and his physical strength and stamina is much better.