Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-38812954-20191220140944

now before you think i'm holding the, "they lost farcefully" grudge, as you inevitably will. this is just to gauge your thoughts on something. i think you guys would remember this part in the manga to. ehhem:

ever since this guy caught naruto's 6paths sage mode punch like a thrown crushed paper. i've been seriously trying to gauge the power differences between them, super logically, to understand and accept why and how. i couldn't just conclude, "well it's just cause he has karma and he's an otsutsuki you idiot. all that's stronger than talk no jutsu." no. without using any sort of reason or logic first. no. so in all my lengthy, double minded, head busting meditations. i've thus come to conclude that isshiki-jigen possesses six paths senjutsu. lmaooooo, well a variant of six paths senjutsu. 😂 (the origins of six paths senjutsu more or less).

with karma and a ten tails himself. he's similar to madara when he became the ten tails jinchuriki (gaining access to six paths senjutsu. well. ten tails senjutsu. or ten tails nature chakra. touching on this. i don't think it's really right to acknowledge the acquisition of the ten tails power six paths senjutsu. the ten tails of earth that hagoromo's split chakra reforms (derived from it) isn't his. i think it's rightfully supposed to be called ten tails senjutsu or ten tails nature chakra. you could imagine if kaguya, after she willed the ten tails into existence from the god tree, then took it inside of herself. what'd that power be called? just like it is with hagoromo. kaguya senjutsu right? or as i said, ten tails senjutsu? or ten tails nature chakra?) continually though (lool). and then later took in the god tree (madara). the difference is though, isshiki most likely did things in reverse:

i have this presumptuous argument that karma is like the byakugou seal but not like it (it's stored chakra fruit power etc). isshiki then as i've assumed, through karma, possesses nature energy chakra direct from it's source. well. compared to senjutsu, just a super massive abundance of it pooled together for takers by a tree (whereas with senjutsu, you only pull in a minimal amount of it compared to that). plus. still with a pool of nature energy chakra through a ten tails (that he, like kaguya, probably willed into existence from a god tree that he ate a chakra fruit from before). madara on the other hand, took in the pool of chakra first (the ten tails of earth) then the god tree (which is similar to eating the chakra fruit but different. ingestion vs absorption).

now. compare that to naruto now, who only has hagoromo's base toad senjutsu (amped by the rinnegan; i believe the rinne ultimately gave hagoromo those light and dark marks. and i think this is the real six paths senjutsu. plus. i think if madara lived longer he'd prolly get them to) in sync simultaneous with his own toad senjutsu and kurama's chakra, that's just a fragment of a ten tails. so:

large accumulated nature energy chakra, through a chakra fruit power + a pool of nature energy chakra through a ten tails.

vs

hagoromo's toad senjutsu (amped by the rinne. the real six paths senjutsu to me) + his own toad senjutsu + kurama's chakra (that's just a fragment of a ten tails)

i think i see now why this happened.

what do you guys think though? do you agree with me on my ten tails senjutsu admission? is karma really what i think it is? lemme see your thoughts  