Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-25319479-20171101152711/@comment-734582-20180110191658

Makimaki11 wrote: Oh he was experimenting. All the time, even during Naruto series. Yet he wanted Uchiha instead of Moegi, even tho between Sasuke and Moegi is 3 year or so. Orochimaru already had Wood Release cells from hashirama. What he lacked was a proper sharingan user. Though he mentions that he wants a Sharingan, we already know that he had sharingan at that time (since he made Danzo's arm). What he wanted wasn't the sharingan, but a proper sharingan user. Considering Kabuto's Rinnegan hypothesis, the plan was probably to implant Sasuke with Hashirama cells at some point, since they'd tried the opposite and didn't get results.

There's actually 5 years between Moegi and Sasuke. In part 1, sasuke was 12-13 and Moegi was 8. In part 2, she was 12. Haku was 15 in Part 1. Sasuke was a known genius. Haku was a known genius. Moegi was a nobody. There's no reason to believe she would manifest her power at the same age as Sasuke or Haku. Obito for instance was about 13 when he got his Sharingan, a year older than Part 2 Moegi. Indications thus are that she'd have awoken Wood Release somewhere after the 4th war.

Since she's not formally senju (could be Senju on her mother or grandmother side), Orochimaru couldn't know like with Sasuke, and since she didn't manifest her power, Orochimaru couldn't know through observation, and since she's a nobody he couldn't know by reputation. She was never abducted so he couldn't know by experimentation either.

Makimaki11 wrote: So far in thousand years of history only Ashura and Hashirama might have mokuton. We don't know how common Wood Release was in the era between those two. We don't know of any Explosion, Boil, Ice, Dust, Lava etc release users either, yet i don't see anyone claiming those elements didn't exist in that era. Sure wood release is rare NOW, but that doesn't mean it always was. Nor does it mean that it went extinct. There's no blood relation between Onoki and Muu, yet both have Dust Release, and there's decades between them. Makimaki11 wrote: What i mean was, non-simulataneous usage of earth and water, doesnt produce mokuton. Therefore there is no clear evidence (despite databook) that Hahsirama had ability of earth and water. For me using mokuton was innate ability as 6th nature element, enhanced by senjutsu chakra. Uh no. Wood Release is the simultaneous use of Water and Earth Release. By definition, if you have Wood Release, you have those other two as well. A KKG is an innate ability (Haku used it with no formal training), but it's not a 6th element. There are only 5 elements, and Yin and Yang release (which Kakashi and Yamato explained, are more complicated). Wood release isn't anything more than Water+Earth, and you couldn't use it without them.