Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180802031548

LegionZero wrote: Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: What are you even trying to say dudee ;_; Just because the rocks were floating and not falling in slomo doesn't mean that there wasn't use of bullet time. Just look at Gaara vs Lee. In real time, Lee is just a blur, in bullet time, we see Lee very clearly. Um they were never falling..the gedo somehow caused the rocks to float. If this answer doesn't correspond with what you're saying here then i guess i lost you on this point.(my fault)

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: So how can someone use footspeed when falling?!!!!!!!!!! they cant, this point is done, i already explained how the kamui works. If he pushed off from the other side of Kamui he is using foot speed. I recommend you take a second look of kamui being used when Obito exits and enters a dimension...and focus on his feet.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Im so confused lol, i mean we were talking about footspeed feat, suddenly it diverted to man falling through portal to ground speed....i only saw sasuke making portals that big and besides obito clearly didn't do that. When Obito first appeared from Kamui, there were no forward pushing motion lines on him. If Kamui was propelling him then there would be motion lines when only his head and hand were poking out before he actually dashed out. Same with what you were trying to say, that being  If he pushed off from the other side of Kamui he is using foot speed .....i already explained how the kamui works, why are you still on this point dude? you're denying that Obito took advantage of gravity to reach to naruto in that scene when clearly he did take advantage of it......

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: I see what you're getting at, but sorry Naruto is the one who did the running...All Obito did was open a portal and fall........................................................ Naruto is faster than the speed of falling. If Obito was "just falling" Naruto would have been further away. No matter how you look at it, whether if Obito took advantage of gravity or if he used footspeed it doesn't really change the fact that Naruto got out of Obito's reach, and that's all he did, that's all he wanted to do....you were comparing him to KCM naruto,well if you're gonna keep saying that it was indeed footspeed he used then Obito just proved that he is not faster than naruto because he just failed to catch him in this same scene.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Really? i mean what i'm calling blitz is Naruto moving away from the raikage at an incredible speed.every didn't even notice when he did..he just wasn't attacking tho. But then i suppose your definition of blitz is what Obito is doing in the chapters you sent?. Blitz is an attack. Just an attack. Not the speed. That's why people use the term "speed blitz" Yea that's why i said he just wasn't attacking tho...blitzing without attacking, not exactly a thing...but as long as you got what i meant.

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Nope, have you ever seen naruto run backwards at an incredible speed? me too, never did but Maruto WAS jumping from one rock to another whilst facing forward...that just laughs at your point...Obito was only able to catch up to him (WHILST naruto was running backwards) because he swung the gunbai at naruto who stopped to block..if he hadnt done that, Naruto would've trolled him in that chapter. Anyways other than that, im struggling to understand just why, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy can't you see that they are just skipping from one rock to another?! i mean the jump marks even shows that!..it's basically Tayuya trying to catch naruto after naruto stole the coffin from her (sasuke was in it)..so they were jumping from tree limb to limb to distance themselves from each other, except Tayuya (obito) couldn't catch up, but thanks to kimimaro (gunbai) she was able to!.. Foot speed can be applied to skips and jumps. Best example is when Raikage used his speed to jump in 542 How can footspeed be used when jumping?! it's just energy stored in the muscles that allows us to jump or something like that ;_;

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Naruto trolled him so hard that Obito almost won the war, killed Naruto, and placed the world in the Infinite Tsukuyomi
 * 1) ObitoGotTrolled😰😅😅.....naruto ran backwards and beat him..drops the mic

Earlier in 595 after Naruto tries to trick Obito with a Shadow Clone Naruto does a whole lot of standing around looking dumb as Obito runs at him But he did none of those, so trolling successful😅....amd at 598 [page 14] Obito just stood looking dumb and watches a clone slams a rasengan at his face

Anyways, you failed to provide a speed feat..even if those were acceptable, what tendo and shurado displayed they far exceeds Obito's speed feats. And as i said before using raw speed isn't his style of combat, he sneaks and try to warps, with the increased shared vision of the rinnegan that would be even impossible....