Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32713358-20170729055604/@comment-32569165-20170730094550

Hold up, hold up, getting the EMS doesn't require for both users to have MS prior to that. Neither Madara, nor Izuna had MS when they fought Hashirama/Tobirama and Izuna died. Madara got his MS thanks to his brother's death and immediately proceeded to transplant his brother's eyes thus unlocking the EMS.

Also what I meant by "prime" is their full power, not the age they are revived at. As I already mentioned it, Tobirama himself told Orochimaru that he made a mistake by reviving them CLOSE to their full power. So they weren't at 100%. Madara losing to Hashirama as an Edo and then proceeding to kick his ass in 5 seconds is more than a proof for that.