User talk:TheUltimate3

Re: Sasuke's Lightning Release Affinity
I don't know for sure if there's a discussion or not, but isn't the episode enough proof that Sasuke has the affinity? I mean yea he can use Fire Release easily and has skill with it, but the paper indicates the true "preference" of a person's chakra. It's like when Kakashi first explained it to Naruto. Going by the logic the wiki uses I think we should add the affinity note next to Lightning Release in Sasuke's infoox.  Banan 14  kab  00:49, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sasuke's affinity is unknown. It would be senseless to assume what his affinity is at this point "just because of the logic the wiki uses." Unlike Naruto and Kakashi, whose affinities were confirmed, Sasuke's isn't. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 00:56, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not assuming though...he used the chakra paper, same as Kakashi and Naruto. It wouldn't make sense for the paper to say what Kakashi and Naruto's chakra nature affinities are and not Sasuke's. That's like a blood test that only says the blood type for Obama and the same blood test not being able to tell anyone else's even though it has a result. The paper shows your affinity not what natures you can and can't use as any shinobi can learn any of the five basic nature transformation types. It wasn't confirmed that Naruto's Truth Seeking Balls are every nature like Kaguya's, but all the natures are nontheless in his infobox. It's really the same thing here. I thin it is good conjecture to use it. Just because it wasn't said in a dialogue doesn't make it untrue. Banan 14  kab  04:56, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Enton stuff
People are waiting for your decision on the Blaze Release forum topic, be so willing to give a word or two please, thanks.--Elveonora (talk) 17:56, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

For the first time here, I'm gonna be real serious
Don't mean to bombard you with questions, but I have some things to ask of you. According to Cerez365, others think of us, Narutopedia users, as "elitist" and such. I look at a thread such as this, and we're all ripping each other apart. Elveonora and Munchvtec going at Ten Tailed Fox, SuperSajuuk going at you and Snapper2. I just got out of fighting with someone on the forums, and I'm beginning to mull not contributing on the forums any longer, because I cause trouble. Some are still recovering from the "Sand = Magnet" thing. From that situation, I saw a side of brash and hostile side of Seelentau I never thought I'd see. My question is, why do we all rip each other apart? (And to reiterate, I take full accountability of such actions). How was the wiki when it started and when Dantman was here more often? And when did such in-fighting begin? I've been on other wikis around the web, and Cerez was correct. Others think of us as conceited or biased and such. When I first came here, I noticed how blunt some users were. I didn't start out as mean or condescending, but over time as spent more time here, after my actions on the forums, I've made a complete fool of myself. The in-fighting has gotten to me as well, and I regret such things (but that may not stop me from arguing again). I'm trying to be thoughtful with these words, because though I may not totally agree at times, I truly appreciate and respect the work you and other sysops/rollbacks here do. Not trying to seem like I'm crying on your shoulder, but back to what I was asking, were the attitudes this bad when Dantman was here more often? How did it get to the point where others looks at us like "Those people hate each other and scare new editors away?" Was there ever a time where we were warm and inviting to others rather than cold and hostile? Thank you for your time. To anyone reading this, your responses will be appreciated as well. -- WindStar7125   23:02, September 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Foolish, huh? Rethinking things is what I'm mulling as of right now. Fine by me. Thanks for your time. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 11:18, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto's abilities section
Aman'Thul bless you! --Elveonora (talk) 16:22, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

tag on posts
The outcome of this thread means all sysops, translators and forum moderators now get a tag next to them on the forums to identify them more clearly to users. However, this is not meant to further the notion that flags are status symbols, but are simply an aid for users to know who is who. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:51, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up the Sakura page! --World Master (talk) 16:47, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Unlocking
1: thanks for clearing up the Sakura personality thing. 2: could you now unlock the page?

There's a few misspellings in the paragraph I want to clear up. If it can't be unlocked at the moment, due to reasons like it's being vandalized from another source, then I'll wait until further notice. (Or was it a different user who locked the page?) --Plane in the Desert (talk) 19:28, September 30, 2014 (UTC)Plane in the Desert

Are you...
Just going to allow a new arc on this wiki to take place? Or will you take other courses of action? -- WindStar7125   21:52, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

misogynistic
hello theultimate3 you said in a forum shipping discussions are misogynistic can you please explain how and where im curious thanksWongo2 (talk) 16:25, October 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a good question actually. I can somewhat see how shipping discussions are little misogynistic, but I can't fully grasp the reason why. Care to explain/elaborate? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 01:04, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe Ulti just felt the urge to make himself appear clever, but used a term of which meaning he doesn't fully grasp.--Elve Talk Page 11:25, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because you people won't leave my page alone...I probably did use misogynistic wrong, if it doesn't mean the dislike or discrimination against women like I thought. But the way I see it, the general hatred of Sakura is laughable and sad. Most people hate her for reasons like "She loves Sasuke but only wants him in her ass!" then for one reason or another end the conversation with either she should die in a fire or just look towards the better option Naruto because he loves her and he's not psycho, never mind the fact that Naruto only liked her when they first met because she was the cute girl in his class. Then people complain over and over again about useless she is and that all she does is cry and she should die in that fire. But when you get right to it, if Naruto is Ninja Jesus, Sasuke is Ninja Lucifer and thus she has two viable options, run in and die or try to appeal to whatever human Sasuke has left in him which would still probably end up with her dying.
 * The last chapter had the discussion post devolve heavily into a Sakura beating match because she attempted to appeal to Sasuke's kindness one more time, expressing her continued love for him and all that stupid drivel and every pretty much called her a whore for it because he was evil. But when Obito goes psycho for the love of a girl whom didn't live him back and then got murdered people called him a wounded manipulated soul (granted he was but that's besides the point) who should have gotten his girl in the end, ignoring the fact that Rin just straight up did not love him like she did Kakashi.
 * Basically I'm calling out what looks to me like a double standard. Sakura loves Sasuke. She's a useless whore who just wants Sasuke all up in her butt because she clearly has no reason to genuinely love someone she got to know as his teammate. Naruto loves Sakura. He's a okay because he's the hero so clearly his initial infatuation with her, when she was a straight up dick to him, could turn into genuine love after getting to know her as his teammate. Obito loved Rin. He loved her so much when she died, he damned the world to an eternity in his genjutsu, but it's sweet because he loved her that much, the fact that he murdered quite a few people personally, turned a village into the Bloody Mist, almost destroyed Konoha with a giant fox, indirectly had Konoha destroyed (Pain), and all that is forgiven because he was a wounded bird manipulated by one of the biggest dicks in the Naruto world.
 * So why is it that out of these three characters, all of whom are motivated in one way or another by love, why is it only Sakura that gets called out that her love in stupid? Don't actually answer that question I could really care less for your reasons.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 11:49, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because as Sasuke said himself, there's nothing likeable about his personality, so her "love" must obviously be physical in nature. And before you say: "but he was sweet before!" then no, quoting him: "I don't like anything in particular, my only goal is to murder a certain man" Sakura never truly understood what kind of a person Sasuke was from the get go (Sasuke said so himself, the only person who understood was Naruto) and simply dreamed up her ideal version of him who is a good guy and secretly loves her.

Unlike Sasuke and Sakura, Obito and Rin were actual good friend for at least 5 years. So yes, she wants him up her butt, just like Ino and Karin. For Naruto, I think it's obvious his love for Sakura is a true one. He is well aware that she doesn't return the feelings and that she is still obsessed with Sasuke, yet, he hasn't given up on her--Elve Talk Page 12:17, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * And as I said, I could really care less, from any of you. While that may sound logical to you, it continues to look like mindless pandering to me, justifiable on my part or no. Regardless, they wanted to know what I that was misogynistic and I told them. This can end.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 12:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

request
Not sure if you seen it on the requests page, but I'd like this thread to be closed (as in, visible but can't be posted, not removed). Thanks. --Sajuuk Talk Page 11:34, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

This needs attention
User Kris.gilson.12 has been questioning the content of Kakashi's article and has made edits like this. (No, I am not asking that he be blocked) He has made a talkpage topic here, in an attempt to get attention to what he sees as chronologically inconsistent information. According to him, he has put a similar topic on Kakashi's talkpage and been waiting a month for someone to respond, but with no avail. I've personally told him that I will make sure this topic gets attention (in order to stop him from removing the information). Please go to Kakashi's talkpage and respond to it. He has a point he'd like to make. Again, not requesting he be blocked. Thanks for your time. • WindStar7125     02:51, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Article deletion
can i delete the article that i have cause i am embaressed:(--13:49,10/7/14etc'~~~ 13:49, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

quick chat
You available atm? need to ask something quick on chat, thanks. --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:10, October 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, wondering if you can come on chat just now? --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:21, October 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, possible to chat atm? --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:46, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

request 2
Hey. I just wanted to let you know that this thread should be closed just before you head offline after you've finished at work. I'll be making a poll that will decide who will become the next sysop which will need to be highlighted. Just so I don't forget, I'm putting it here (so yeah, don't close the thread yet until just before you are about to leave :P) --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:17, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Hello, where can I find any mods or admins to talk about a problem i'm having here? Gojirafan430 (talk) 04:20, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Dnt get mad, I understand that u have lots work to do... According to me if one can use a single jutsu based on any chakra nature then we can say that the ninja can use that chakra nature (even if he can use it on only a single jutsu)...

Like naruto can only use wind style rasin shuriken for wind style... Isn't it? But as all know naruto has wind nature, but apart frm that jutsu naruto has not shown any other jutsu based on that nature, similarly TSB, and various RS are...

And if sum1 says that it's not naruto's but the tailed beast's i will laugh at them coz of 2 reasons 1- naruto possess TB so he possess their power too... 2-if not for naruto then y for obito, madara or kayuga? I mean they all got powers frm TT like TSB that kk mora stuff, and so does naruto got frm all9 TB...

And sir it is not stated any where that to claim a chakra nature a ninja should know every jutsu frm it, coz as far as i have seen only a single jutsu or ability is enough

And at last about the chakra paper stuff, I belive that what nature is dominating that nature chakra result will b shown, coz u cant expect the paper to burn and become wet and cut and shrink and crumble at the same time...

I did this to make my point and to save u time, coz as i said i can understand your load...

But anyways if I caused any troble I apologize, and if I help u bit u may thank me any time u wish...

And if possible I want to ask a faver that plz b4 blocking me any time in future or even now for anything plz warn me or let me know my mistake coz m new here jst created an id sum hour ago and then went to work... And then seeing it now... So i am not used fo it much...

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Pervy sage- Jass (talk) 21:12, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto's Abilities
I meant to save some of your precious time, because what I had understood from your comments at Naruto Abilities discussion form, I thought u got pissed off by editing over and over again without a real proof, i can totally understand it... I jst mean there is no need to edit it, its right and i had given some of my logics over it, and sir I am not afraid of u, I mean I came from a different region and my english is not too good and I know if someone can not understand what you are saying that might turn into rude, like for example I use "brother" word a lot, some one said that it is a gangster language but here where I live it is a way to respect some one like in Japan kon,chan,sama are used. I was as clear as I could so Dnt get mad at that :) try To understand and I am sure it will save u some time from editing... Here I am posting it again trying to be as simple as I could-

According to me if one can use a single jutsu, based on any chakra nature then we can say that the ninja can use that chakra nature (even if he can use it on only a single jutsu)...

Like naruto can only use wind style rasin shuriken for wind style... Isn't it? But as we all know naruto has wind nature, but apart frm that jutsu naruto has not shown any other jutsu based on that nature, similarly Truth Seeking Ball, and various Rasin Shuriken are... I am not taking about ying-yang nature coz I dnt remember seening any jutsu based on it..

And if sum1 says that it's not naruto's abilities and are from the tailed beast, i will laugh at them because of 2 reasons--- 1- naruto possess Tail Beast so he possess their power too... 2-if not for naruto then why for obito, madara or kayuga? I mean they all got powers frm Ten Tails like Truth Seeking Ball and that kekai mora stuff, and so does naruto got frm all 9 Tail Beast...

And sir it is not mentioned any where that to claim a chakra nature a ninja should know every jutsu frm it, coz as far as i have seen only a single jutsu or ability is enough

And at last about the chakra paper stuff, I belive that what nature is dominating that nature chakra result will b shown, coz u cant expect the paper to burn and become wet at the same time...

But anyways if I caused any troble I apologise...

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Pervy sage- Jass (talk) 09:04, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I meant to save some of your precious time, because what I had understood from your comments at Naruto Abilities discussion form, I thought u got pissed off by editing over and over again without a real proof, i can totally understand it... I jst mean there is no need to edit it, its right and i had given some of my logics over it, and sir I am not afraid of u, I mean I came from a different region and my english is not too good and I know if someone can not understand what you are saying that might turn into rude, like for example I use "brother" word a lot, some one said that it is a gangster language but here where I live it is a way to respect some one like in Japan kon,chan,sama are used. I was as clear as I could so Dnt get mad at that :) try To understand and I am sure it will save u some time from editing... Here I am posting it again trying to be as simple as I could-

According to me if one can use a single jutsu, based on any chakra nature then we can say that the ninja can use that chakra nature (even if he can use it on only a single jutsu)...

Like naruto can only use wind style rasin shuriken for wind style... Isn't it? But as we all know naruto has wind nature, but apart frm that jutsu naruto has not shown any other jutsu based on that nature, similarly Truth Seeking Ball, and various Rasin Shuriken are... I am not taking about ying-yang nature coz I dnt remember seening any jutsu based on it..

And if sum1 says that it's not naruto's abilities and are from the tailed beast, i will laugh at them because of 2 reasons--- 1- naruto possess Tail Beast so he possess their power too... 2-if not for naruto then why for obito, madara or kayuga? I mean they all got powers frm Ten Tails like Truth Seeking Ball and that kekai mora stuff, and so does naruto got frm all 9 Tail Beast...

And sir it is not mentioned any where that to claim a chakra nature a ninja should know every jutsu frm it, coz as far as i have seen only a single jutsu or ability is enough

And at last about the chakra paper stuff, I belive that what nature is dominating that nature chakra result will b shown, coz u cant expect the paper to burn and become wet at the same time...

But anyways if I caused any troble I apologise...

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Pervy sage- Jass (talk) 09:07, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

If I MAY...
...I have to say that Ur sense of humor & satire are quite good...almost 60-70 % percent of the comments or basically everything I read from U make me laugh...specially in your arguments or when U R angry :D...& from the bottom of my heart I hope that I haven't offended U for complementing these aspects of yours which I apologize here & now if I did...are U by any chance a fan of comedy? --DARK ZER06 (talk) 23:13, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hey TU3, I'll be in chat for a few hours, like to talk about something when you get the chance. :) --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:36, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Request of Removal
Can you please remove the word "Shinju" from the infoboxes of these five articles:
 * Furrow (volume)
 * Declaration of War
 * Battle of the Death inside the Water Prison!! (volume)

Reasons: The Shinju and the Ten-Tails are not one and the same, the real Shinju debuted in chapter 670, anything before that was the Ten-Tails' Tree Form, and the holy tree Hagoromo showed Naruto in chapter 670 does not have the Rinnegan. Thanks in advance.

Edit: Also, I apologize for creating unnecessary and unneeded talkpages (that I eventually had to put delete tags on) for the purpose of removing something that is factually incorrect. No need for discussion on that, and I figured out through the process that contacting a sysop is better than asking for one on five different talkpages. • WindStar7125     23:18, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Again
I'm sure you remember Sajuuk attempting to report me or whatever of the creation of episode articles? Last time you stated you didn't care about me or anyone else creating them around that time, however like always, he is disregarding or ignoring what you previously stating and saying I'm violating. This is why this guy should not be a sysop... --OmegaRasengan (talk) 15:09, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Stop playing the victim card, mate. Your talkpage is littered in warnings by many users and how you take personal offence by every one of them. Yes, I remember all your feuds with Cerez every time he called you up on his edits and your attitude to me is exactly the same as the attitude you gave to him. Like I said: stop playing the victim, your the one in the wrong here, not myself. I'm simply reminding you of policy that was created for this wiki. Funnily enough, this doesn't prove your assertions that "I'm not suitable to be a sysop", but proves that you should be blocked for constant intimidation and playing the victim card. Stop crying to sysops when you don't get your own way.
 * TheUltimate3, I can discuss this on chat with you if you are available. --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:28, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * @TU3: The policy has been very clear, well before OmegaRasengan even edited here: don't create episode articles before their official release on Crunchyroll, I am simply following the policy that was created for a reason. You allowing them to be made means you are ignoring an obvious policy that was created to ensure that the episodes follow the official release line. Referencing the manga chapter articles doesn't even prove anything and is just evasive.
 * @Omega: Your responses make me wonder why you have never been blocked. You constantly play the victim card with everyone who pulls you up on your edits and you give the same rude responses every time. The reason that users like Shakhmoot don't get warned is because they create the episode articles after they've been released on Crunchyroll, whereas you constantly make them many hours before most fansubs have them, and hell I've seen you create articles like this well before even any fansubs have them available, your talkpage even proves this long line of edits from you from tons of users.
 * Honestly, none of this proves that I shouldn't be a sysop, if anything it only strengthens my case that I do my best to keep this place running while people like you constantly breach policy and play victim when people catch you doing it. Like I said: stop playing the victim and stop running to sysops when you don't get your own way. --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:15, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * That isn't my problem. The chapters are commonly posted here when they get immediately released, but everyone else waits until the episode is officially released on Crunchyroll before making the article. You know what's so funny? You made that rule when you created the spoiler policy, and now your backpeddling on a policy that has been enforced on every other user for the past 4 years, yet you like to play favourites and give OmegaRasengan free reign to violate every policy on the wiki without punishment.
 * I will be asking a non-biased sysop to look into this, since it seems that you are playing favourites with OmegaRasengan and not being impartial to a policy you created years ago. --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:40, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * There is no point attempting to enforce it on the manga, as it's close to finishing, but the anime will continue for a few years, so your argument is entirely invalid.
 * Shame that OmegaRasengan is the only user who violates the Spoiler Policy outright, nobody else does it and they are content to wait until Crunchyroll releases it (essentially, when TV Tokyo has aired it, which is 30 minutes before Crunchyroll makes it available), so OmegaRasengan will continue to receive warnings from me and any other users who catch him posting anime episode articles before the official release of the episodes in question.
 * Also, the wikia has always ignored the manga chapter policy, but it has always adhered to the anime episode policy. There is no issue here, the wikia just recognises that there's no point in enforcing the spoiler policy on manga chapters since it's common place. You don't have an argument to fall on here. --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:50, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Time Naruto airs in Japan
May I answer this question if possible? From TV-Tokyo's official Naruto anime website, the episodes are released every Thursday at 7:30 PM (10:30 AM at GMT timeline) and if we have a special one-hour episode, it'll be released 30 minutes eariler. For the latest chapter will be release in Japan on the next Monday. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 17:13, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah TU3-sama, the most current episode aired before the article's creation. Personally, I sometimes watch the episodes before its releases in Crunchyroll by the online streaming from TV-Tokyo immediately and from that I know which chapters that these episodes cover and when the Crunchyroll releases their episodes, the episodes article creation are allowable for this time according to the spoiler policy. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:32, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * EDIT: It's already after for today's episode not before. Sorry about that, I thought your question is general for all Naruto episodes. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:38, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * As I said before, TV-Tokyo releases their Naruto episodes before 30 minutes of Crunchyroll's releases for everywhere in this world. So every episode article that created before that time is considered spoiler that violates the policy. The airtime of the episodes is as I mentioned above. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:09, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're warmly welcome at anytime. :) — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 19:56, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Is it possible that I could ask a question about the spoiler policy change on chat? Cheers! --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:15, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Nope.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:19, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Playin a video game. Not going to the chatroom. Here is fine.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:20, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright. Does the change to the spoiler policy mean that if OmegaRasengan creates an article about the episode before they're released are now violations and legitimate warnings can be given by myself or any user if he does it ? --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:24, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * No it means as long as those articles are made after the episode has aired in Japan, they are good to go. Unless I got my numbers all jacked up, those should be the times Shakhmoot gave me right here, which are the actual release dates of the episodes.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:31, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * If I got the times wrong please let me know and I will fix it. Time zones have never been my strong suit.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 20:31, October 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Obviously if the articles are made after release, I have no issue with them. I will take issue if they're repeatedly made before the episode has even "officially" aired. That's what I want clarified.
 * And from what I know, it's 11:00am BST for the TV Tokyo release, 12:00pm BST for the Crunchyroll release. When the clocks go back on Sunday, it'll be 10:00am GMT and 11:00am GMT for the TV-Tokyo and Crunchyroll releases respectively (CR bases their release times on the GMT timezone). --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:37, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sysop
Dunno. They were supposed to be Dantman's call but he has once again vanished off the face of the earth. I closed Elveonora's because the community had spoken clearly and it was devolving into a special psycho addition of "This Is Your Life". As to the others, I just want the whole matter to go away because the threads have become a repeat of the 2008 presidential elections. Jokes aside we can close them whenever. Either you can or I can when I have access to my laptop. Won't hurt me feelings either way. From there, they're in Dantman's hands. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 17:29, October 23, 2014 (UTC)