Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-26388300-20160508054140

@Rachin123

"Kamui isn't going to help much here". You're right, man. The ability to look at something and make it vanish has no offensive value at all lol.

And there was a fallacy in your retort, brother. I don't believe anyone's made the argument that Kisame is an idiot; in fact, my exact words were: in a discussion regarding intellect, Kisame can't be underestimated; I'd argue that no member of the Akatsuki is dull minded. But when have you witnessed Kisame employ the level of strategy that Kakashi does in nearly every fight? On that note, when have you seen Kisame employ strategy at all? He goes in with guns blaring. It's a blitzkrieg tactic, and that's not to say that it's a bad one. But my argument is that Kakashi is too nuanced of a shinobi to simply be run over by jutsu bombs falling all around.

Kakashi has used Kamui before very quickly and with extreme precision in protecting himself from Pain. He would be able to weaponize it against Kisame; I mean, talk about denial: why wouldn't he? I can think of no logical reason that he couldn't use Kamui to some sort of positive effect, such as teleporting himself away from danger, teleporting away Kisame's weapons, water, body, etc. I get the impression that the pro-Kisame lobby is severely handicapping Kamui in this discussion simply because it has so much power to end their arguments. Diedara's arm literally came off. I want to repeat that.

Diedara's arm. It came off. From a Kamui-beginner.

Kisame, here, is fighting a Kamui-master.