Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30830650-20170125144949/@comment-28247797-20170501080014

@NamikazeNaruto9 "A Rinnegan holder can open dimensions." See the difference? Sasuke can make a portal to GET to Kaguyas dimension, Kaguya literally changes the entirety of the landscape to HER dimension in which she controls. Sasuke can only enter or leave said dimension, he doesn't have one of his own. Not only that but it's incredibly taxing for Sasuke to even do that, he only has two tries at best. And actually yes the Rinne Sharingan can save you from a path, it's called changing the dimension to either where you and your jutsu fall in lava or get pinned in her desert realm where she can one-shot you and it with ease. It's whichever way you wanna die. The only reason Sasuke lived was because he had PS that could fly, that's a MS ability not a Rinnegan one. And yes, I'm gonna continue to use Sasuke vs Kaguya because it's the only interaction we've seen of Rinne Sharingan and Rinnegan against one another. Don't you get it? She doesn't need to grab Sasuke, or anyone for that sake to teleport them. She can change the landscape to her dimension. And like I said before, the Rinne Sharingan has planetary level feats. The Rinnegan does not, by scaling that makes it stronger. Having resistance against it doesn't exactly make you better, the Rinne Sharingan has better potency. Experience can't negate that big of a power gap.

1) You are overrating Shadow clones, you previously said they could use devastating ninjutsu but now you're talking about a durability feat? Stay on topic, they only gain a portion of the original users power.

2) First and foremost, Naruto had only sealed one not a few but it wasn't Naruto's doing. Naruto and Sasuke both incapacitated it because they blitz(Sasuke's Ameno.) Madara with a sealing jutsu but Madara swapped himself out for his Limbo. Naruto+Sasuke >> Naruto clones. No Naruto cannot beat Madara in terms of taijutsu. Madara did get a second chance to use Limbo, Sasuke said they were surrounding him and Naruto before the whole BZ thing happened. Also, Madara >> Naruto taijutsu in base. Right? Madara being a TTJ+Sage mode is better than Naruto's six paths sage mode. Madara reacted to SSP Naruto's attack while being severely beaten and wounded by Eight gates gai. You have to agree or else you retract your argument about Hagoromo being better than Madara because of his base.

3) See you need to pay attention, notice how I said "Dual Rinnegan Madara." Not one Rinnegan Madara. And your statement makes no sense, Madara flew up to cast CT and sent Limbo's at them at the same time. So how would Madara think Limbo wouldn't be a good enough distraction if he literally used them both in conjuction? If Madara's Limbo weren't a threat then Sasuke wouldn't have warned Naruto about them being outside, if they weren't a threat then Naruto would've used his shadow clones against them again in the end (He didn't and wouldn't because Naruto realized that would be a waste of chakra.) and Madara wouldn't have used them if ineffective. Exactly, it took both Naruto and Sasuke to destroy something Madara casually created, keep proving my point.

4) You are misinformed and I've used everything canon to inform you. What're you talking about? What non-canon have I used while debating you? Don't worry, I'll wait. No one agreed with you regarding Madara not having PS, Bakumatsu joined in and thought it was retarded that some people actually believed EMS Madara didn't have PS. You just keep making up stuff or what you're saying is flat out wrong. Killer723 disagreed with you too. You know what annoys me? Having to constantly rehash many things to you that the manga has made clear.

5)It doesn't matter. Why? Because he was using his two Rinnegan and MS. He got a power up beforehand, that was the powerup. If he fought Kaguya with his brother with a bare Sharingan or without MS or Rinnegan then I'd give that to you because that means they won without haxed eyes therefore pointing to his base attributes but that's not the case. Hagoromo fighting Kaguya with his brother when he has two Rinnegan and a MS says nothing about about his taijutsu. Him being an Ootsuki gives him strong chakra, says nothing about his taijutsu.