Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180927150340/@comment-6769189-20180930014142

Nashikeine wrote: No Kurama or SP power up...

Naruto in early Shippuden has 4 times the Chakra of Kakashi. we know chakra grows with training. he is by adulthood way and beyond any person in Chakra i would say. Based on? Is there any evidence or scaling tool that can be used to determine how much Naruto's chakra reserves would go up??

Nashikeine wrote:

Rasenshuriken (incomplete one) is an attack that scared the day light out of Kakuzu, an S-rank ninja, thus already making the attack on par with Kage level. Konahamaru could perform Rasengan, a kage level jutsu but that doesnt mean he can be as powerful as Hashirama.

Nashikeine wrote:

Also in that very arc Kakashi admits that Naruto has surpassed him so we can at least assume he is Jonin level. In raw strength.

Nashikeine wrote:

Pein arc arrives and Naruto has SM. Shikaku states that Naruto with SM is beyond any shinobi present. But he still losing to Pain until Kurama bailed him out

Nashikeine wrote:

in Pein arc base Naruto withstood Shinra Tensei, which very few survive. he also took out Deva body with a base Rasengan. From a significantly weakened Pain who used most of his strength on Kurama

Nashikeine wrote:

At the turtle island he fought against Yang Kyubi, who in sync with Naruto later utterly dominated 6 Biju at once. Naruto pushed Kyubi back and with a little help defeated him. He was losing that fight too until Kushina bailed him out. This was also a battle of wills in Naruto's subconscious so its questionable if this "fight" went the same as it would in the physical world

Nashikeine wrote:

his SM Rasenshuriken was seen as a relative threat to Edo Madara who went on and used Rinnegan. These all was done by a clone of Naruto. Madara isnt a tank. Most of the attacks at the time would incapacitate him had they landed on his body.

Nashikeine wrote:

he later hurt Juubito with a SM Rasengan. Any senjutsu could hurt Juubito

Nashikeine wrote:

his SM Big Ball Rasenshuriken took out two of Hashirama's wood Dragons and hurt Edo Madara. also to note that at this point Hashirama was in Sage Mode. Chapter?

Nashikeine wrote:

in Boruto he is shown to enter SM in an instant. He fought a fused Momo in base. he has multitudes of Jutsu under his command. and what not. When was he shown instantly entering Sage Mode? Naruto also has 6 Paths amp.

Nashikeine wrote:

Now. also at this point given his partnership with Kurama he can use Ma and Pa like Jiraiya did for SM or simply have Kurama collect Nature chakra for him. he is never running out of that power. He would have to create a shadow clone first that can be kept from sitting still.