Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-24168857-20150708081120/@comment-5936871-20150801064107

Vacent wrote: No one is fanboying. Naruto was inadequate in both the battle against the original Shin, and the ones against the clones. Kurama first stated it had been a while since they had fought, later when Naruto gets impaled both come to the conclusion that Naruto is not himself because his battle senses have deteriorated. The most logical conclusion when put together is that inactivity on the battlefield has made him become weaker. Sasuke's sword pierced Naruto's chakra covered form, that should not have been possible even with Sasuke being in Kurama's avatar head.You say Naruto still possesses RSM yet he lacks all the distinguishing features Obito, Madara, and Hagoromo showed (9 tomoe & Rinnegan pattern on the back). Naruto has shown no indication he has Goudama or at the very most he is unable to recreate them. The power of flight seems lost to him as well. Sage Mode being more complex then Curse Seal is irrelevant, both involve the user handling Natural Energy. If Sasuke can deal with then latter then absorbing chakra from Sage Mode is not a hindrance to him. Don't know why you're bringing up Sasuke mastering Sage Mode because that was never being proposed, the issue is cab he absorb Natural Energy without turning into stone and the answer to that is a resounding yes. Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei can not be likened to Nagato's, how will Naruto counter becoming the center of gravity? By destroying himself? Itachi's method won't apply in this case. Sasuke has already come into physical contact with the Goudama, they're a non factor if Naruto even has then for starters. Sasuke's chakra reserves enables him to traverse dimensions, something only Kaguya does since she's essentially the progenitor of chakra. Reserves aren't a problem on Sasuke's end. I will use Gaiden as a reference because it's a canon part of the stories narrative written by Kishimoto. I'm not going to ignore it simply because it shows negatively on hid capabilities.

Inactivity does not imply the incapability to do anything, Gaiden wasn't about showing Naruto one-shot everyone. It was about Sarada and her father, not let's watch Naruto blow the shit out of everything. Sasuke's senses also deteriorated based on the shuriken incident. Naruto praising Sasuke when his daughter was around after telling her how cool her dad was literally doesn't mean anything. I mean, Sasuke is the second strongest guy in the world next to Naruto, and I mean, he's Sasuke. Why not praise his skills? Especially infront of his daughter who never met him before? As for the sword, unless you're saying Sasuke's sword > Chidori > Naruto's cloak, the sword incident shouldn't be counted since Naruto had let his guard down. Also, Naruto does still have SPSM. It's distinguishing features aren't the seals and symbols on his back. It's his face, when he has the same eyes he does in TBSM, but lacks any type of glowing or the red pigmentation around his eyes like in Sage Mode. Then he's in SPSM, and he used that in Gaiden. So yes, he does still indeed, have SPSM. Again, watch The Last. He can still fly, and Sasuke has never shown the capability of using chibaku tensei directly on Naruto's body. If he could do that on Naruto, he would have done it, and Naruto can counter it by breaking all of the rocks coming at him? Sasuke's reserves allowing him to traverse dimensions shouldn't be included, since it left him unable to use Rinnegan and even Mangeyko Sharingan. I'm not saying to ignore Gaiden, I'm just saying to stop blowing the things it shows out of proportion.