Talk:Steam Armour

Element?
I've been seeing some things maybe are unacknowledged element of probable "Jōkiton" (Steam Release) think I have seen in a Data Book, does it really could be confirmed?
 * The only reference to the ninjutsu Han uses comes from an art book by Kishimoto. The only thing mentioned is that Han uses steam-based ninjutsu, and that he wears this armour, which produces steam. It was never referred to as a chakra nature, despite what many people around the internet will say. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:12, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Omni, I ask that you evaluate something for me. The content seen in the artbook is acceptable to the wikia? It's what I found a link that says the element is called indeed Joukiton steam. See:

http://img140.imageshack.us/i/100ti.jpg/

That is a poor translation. Never put complete trust on translations. First of all, Steam Release would be. I get my information directly from English translations, the amount of wrong and assumed information taken as canon by those who get Portuguese translations is appalling. This is the best translation of that image I could find without spending too much time looking. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:12, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

So Jouton Joukiton or will be added to the site? Why Artbook, and Kishimoto really confirms what is called Joukiton.

Of course not. The term was never, ever, used in any sort of official source. The only reference to steam, in fact, suggests it's not even an advanced nature. The combination which could most likely result into a steam nature is already used for Boil Release, which is basically acid-based techniques. The only reference to steam in anything canon in Naruto is that Han uses this steam-armour, and that he uses steam-based ninjutsu. Nothing implies this is a chakra nature, or even a tailed beast skill. For all we know for sure, this could be a specialised form of Water Release, much like Black Lightning is an unique form of Lightning Release. It could be hiden ninjutsu. Nothing about it suggests it's a separate nature. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:24, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

But Omni, cute, and it shows Joukiton Artbook (Kishimoto's words) will be ignored? I think they should at least put a parenthesis with the translation in the Databook.

All articles in which the mention of steam-based ninjutsu is relevant already have it down. And this wasn't mentioned in a databook, it was in an artbook. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Artbook is written by Kishimoto Artbook the same way. -_-

I say you could put something like:''Steam Element (probably Jouton / Joukiton). Got it? Not that this is actually a type of chakra, but .. As the Kaminari Kuroi, a Suiton advanced.

I didn't say it wasn't. And you mean an advanced Raiton. I'm saying that the terms used in it to describe what Han does with steam were poorly translated by whoever did the scanlation you linked above. The translation took a liberty he or she couldn't have taken, and made it seem that steam techniques are way more than what the original text says they are. No, we won't use those terms, because that is speculation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:57, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wonder if your argument would have a stronger impression on the IP if you said it in Portuguese... ~SnapperTo 18:15, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Raw information: 「イルカと馬を合体させたんですが思いつかなくて自分でもよく分かりません. ハンは蒸気の鎧を着てて蒸気を利用する忍者. スチーム人柱力です」 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7u9gMhrSm6Y/SmyvEYqrb-I/AAAAAAAAE7o/crDQCcs_meI/s1600-h/100.jpg). I don't know Japanese, but i don't see here the kanji "Release" (遁). Apparently the Steam Armour is only related to a particular type of ninjutsu, but not a new element, like Utakata's Bubble Blower and his Soap Bubble Ninjutsu. Thunder God Cid (talk) 19:19, March 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. I was looking for this image. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:22, March 13, 2011 (UTC)