Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180410202116

Obito didnt block Guy's kick, that impact was Guy kicking his nunchaku.

Kamui is not instaneous movement it is interdimensional travel. Its not the kind of teleportation you are ipmlying it to be.

If Obito wasnt as fast as Naruto/Minato none of his counter attacks would land.

Kamui doesnt give Obito the speed necessary to catch Minato either with the chains or mid-swing. Its not like Obito uses his whole hand to stop Minato's arm or block his movement. He was fast enough to grap hold of him while he was in the centimeters of space between his fingers.

You cant even argue on this one because Minato admitted that a split second attack would end him. This same Minato who was setting up counters on A and B while they were inches from landing an attack on him.

"Obito was far" is a horrible excuse because that mean Naruto has more time to dodge/counter and fails to do so.

If you read right past the moment after Obito comes from under the rock, Naruto sees him throw the fan and the best he can do is block it and Naruto failed to evade the chain AND couldnt counter the pull.

While Kakashi tried to Kamui the Mazou, Obito dodged Naruto's Mini Bijuudama. This was a surprise attack on Obito and he moved out of the way.

The moments we reference are literally panels away from the stuff you mention. I dont know how you miss them. I also dont know how you are going to say that Obito isnt as fast as Naruto because Naruto headbutt him when they close enough to hug eachother while Obito is trying to get Kakashi but when Naruto doesnt dodge and counter things that come from far away he is still faster than Obito?

No way around the fact that Obito successfully dodged and countered Minato/Naruto numerous times. And even KCM2 Naruto couldnt speedblitz him, nevertheless KCM1Naruto and Minato.