Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36512555-20180814043009/@comment-34194151-20180821171447

@ Jason

As Asian said, it isn't square. In fact, the feat isn't a fair showing for either character, since that whole transaction took place in mid-air. Raikage is obviously fast enough to run towards and leap towards madara and meet him while Madara is already in the air. Madara simply jumped up to avoid the lava, he had no intel on ay's speed, which is why he complimented Ayy because his speed surprised him and was impressive, but that said nothing about how Ayy's running speed would actually compare to Madara's running speed. Deidara was also surprised by Sasuke's speed yet he was able to react and jump out of the way. It's different than the case with Minato and tobirama for example, where Tobirama directly stated minato had a faster body flicker. It's really hard to scale how Fast Raikage is compared to Warring States shinobi. He has his feat of being the top tier speedster of modern times, and fast enough to avoid a point blank amaterasu. But then when you take a step back and realize that amaterasu's speed and potency are inconsistent (gaara's sand could react to amaterasu and not part 1 weightless lee in the 1st gate, hebi curse mark sasuke also avoided itachu's initial amaterasu burst, its kinda hard to scale. Keep in mind also that Raikage was extremely close to sasuke, and its harder to keep high speed objects in your field of focus at a close distance compared to far away. Factor in the fact that even an Old hirzuen is faster than EMS sasuke, sasuke, while fast, isn't the best test of Raikage's speed. And by your own logic, obito is slow, so therefore Raikage blitzing him at the summit wouldn't be as impressive either. But given that people like Base Bee can shunshin across a mountain range faster than the whole of Team Taka could percieve ( they needed karin to find where he went after Jugo attacked him after he was electrocuted), speed is really messed up in this manga. So Raikage, after minato died, was the fastest alive until kcm naruto came about, but that doesn't give use a reference point back to madara.

We don't know what Madara's speed is. I will look into more edo madara feats, but I don't think they exist. But just because he is featless doesn't make him slow. While edo's are weaker than their real selves, kabuto's/orochimaru's completed edo tensei makes the edo very close. So the fact that alive Madara could blitz sage naruto with naruto only able to muster a block speaks volumes about his speed, given that an off balance sage naruto clone could evade the third raikage's fastest and most lethal attack at the last second. So yes, its possible that Madara could be in the same speed tier as the 4th raikage, but there isn't enough information.