Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190907005521/@comment-9782468-20190926165729

Again, even though she was there, there's little to no evidence that she broke him out. Just like there's little to no evidence that she didn't break him out. There's not enough there to make a reliable guess which direction it went.

So if we can't really make a probable guess on that, then the point about Frog Song can just be crossed out of the argument since there's a factor that's just unknown.

Either way, my other points still stand.

FlatZone wrote: No, plot was set that Itachi wouldn't kill somebody with that and he didn't. Plot was that he would only put Kakashi and Sasuke into comas. It literally is because of plot. Literally nothing contradicts his novel feat. Kakashi had less chakra and experience when he still had his Sharingan, as the current Kage he has more chakra and more experience along with Purple Lightning which he has already shown variations of, again nothing contradicts Kakashi using his Purple Lightning that way and nothing said he couldn't. So yes, when serious and in a life or death battle that is not plot driven, Itachi can his best Tsukuyomi feat(80 years in 1 second) and his best Amaterasu feat(instantaneous disintegration of a fire breathing toads stomach) mind you each feat is more chakra taxing than when he used the lesser feat versions. But he can use them, you just don't WANT him to have them and that isn't a good argument. Kakashi also does have the lightning cloud feat because nothing says he can't and nothing contradicts in in the anime/manga. Whoa I just noticed this reply.

No, saying "plot" isn't a good argument when you're arguing for a feat that's outside canon, even though that feat had several chances to be shown in canon (or even in an anime filler) but was never shown. Itachi had several other chances when it'd be beneficial as well, but never used Tsukuyomi to that extent.

And if it taxes Itachi that much to even do a regular Tsukuyomi, he wouldn't take even more chakra than that to take one person out when he still had half his clan to kill.

The fact that the Toad breathed fire doesn't make the feat more impressive since Amaterasu burns anything regardless of what it is.