Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-27924662-20170523031137

Killer723 wrote: Obito is stronger then itachi, its simple fact that Itachi has no clue how kamui works , while Obito have all information for Itachi. Even tho if he would knew how to counter Kamui it would be very difficult since itachi chakra pool isn't something that he can relay on. I won't be surprise if obito knows all about itachi's abilities considering the fact that black Zetsu was snooping around the members of akatsuki all the time. Before we get on the business I want to point certain things out: To those who are bothering to even compare Hashirama with Madara I will say this once, Madara was never a match for hashirama at any point of time. Even with his killing intent he never managed even draw for crying out loud. Hashirama was at a different level than all shinobi. So those who are saying stuff like Madara competed with Hashirama, even other shinobis can fight losing battle with hashirama, SO.... From my point of view, I think Tobirama was the one who could seriously give madara run for his money. His Geniuses and Variety could easily match madara's so called God power. And Hiruzen was said to be on par with Tobirama during the time when he named Hiruzen the hokage. So we can clearly see that Madara was hokage level about Hiruzen and tobirama's level. This clearly shows us that Sannin together could have been stronger than madara in their primes. Itachi was clearly hokage level, he made Danzo FEAR him despite Danzo having the ultimate genjutsu and his hashirama haxes. Itachi could have easily been Hiruzen level despite stamina issues. ANd Madara would never come out of winner in such level of combat easily considering that itachi is of about the same tier.