Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26388300-20160524034125/@comment-26773508-20160525003120

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote:

Plus Minato's hugeass rasengan isn't killing Madara. why?especially if he gets a direct hit. 14-year old Obito took a direct hit from a hugeass Rasengan and didn't die. EMS Madara with far more durability than Obito isn't going to be one-shotted by something like the Rasengan.

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote:

Also, Madara is a very good sensor, so he'll know if Minato teleports above or behind him, but it's highly debatable if he'll be able to react on time. when did EMS madara became sensory? Err....he's been a sensor since, like, forever? Unless you're implying that the Rinnegan somehow gives you sensory abilities. And as far as I'm aware, nothing of that sort has been stated or even suggested.

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote:

Flying Raijin is instantaneous. But if we take Sasuke vs Itachi as a reference point, then we see that Itachi activated his Susanoo fast enough to shield himself from Kirin, whose striking speed is like 1/1000th of a second or something like that. So Madara might be able to summon his ribcage Susanoo the instant Minato appears with a hugeass rasengan above him. itachi knew what was coming ,here it's a sneaky surprise attack for which he doesn't knows what's going to happen so no he can't do any such thing Fair enough.

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote:

And against someone of Madara's caliber, Minato will be able to hit him only once, with the Rasengan only injuring Madara a little bit. Madara isn't falling for another Flying Raijin+Rasengan trick for a second time.

since madara can't predict FTG why would he not fall for another one besides anyway none of madara's attack are gonna reach minato he is gonna waste chakra while trying to use attack minato. so in the end anyway minato is gonna win. Who says the FTG cannot be predicted? It can be predicted to a huge extent if a shinobi is smart enough and has top-notch perceptive abilities. Like I said, Minato's tattooed kunais will immediately give away his main weapon, namely The Flying Raijin. And you do remember that there was already a guy Madara faced all throughout his youth, named Tobirama Senju, who used an inferior version of the technique, right? Madara knew the secrets of Edo Tensei. He personally witnessed Tobirama using Flying Raijin to slash Izuna like a bitch. And while Minato's version of the technique is superior, the basic mechanism is the same. Madara isn't falling for the same trick twice. You're overhyping Minato here.

As far as offensive capabilities are concerned, Minato has been portrayed as a one-trick pony who uses Flying Raijin blitz + Rasengan to take out his opponents. That shit can work on Madara only once. And we know that even a bigass Rasengan like the one Minato used on Obito cannot defeat Madara. That guy fought with Wood Golems and Deep Forest Emergence and Wood Dragons. He has far more durability than a watered-down Hashi-celled 14-year old Obito.

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9 Arts dragon wrote: Titles and hypes are constantly retconned in Naruto you lost me when you put minato above Madara he's nowhere near Madara.Even Edo could pressure and easily react to bijuu mode Naruto while unserious.

No God tiers the list would be:

0.Maito Gai 8 Gates

1.Hashirama Senju

2.Uchiha Madara

3.Nagato Uzumaki

4.Itachi Uchiha

5.Minato (No Kyuubi otherwise Naruto would be here) Good list. Except I'd scratch Minato out and put Tobirama+Hiruzen instead. Or maybe 3rd Ay in place of Tobirama. Hiruzen would probably tie or be higher than Nagato. I'd tie Nagato and Tobirama, though in the end Nagato might end up being the victor more often than not. Itachi comes next. His one-shot kills aren't going to work very well against an anti-Uchiha expert like Tobirama, who not only has primitive FTG, monstrous chakra and an intellect equal to, if not greater than, that of Itachi. Tobirama can simply outlast Itachi. And he's a master sensor and will be able to sense when Itachi tries to use Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu/Totsuka Blade, which he'll avoid using FTG. Itachi will simply be drained away in the end.