Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-38812954-20191223174558/@comment-33286580-20191225174349

@Senjutsu

It was Hashirama who performed it in manga and Tobirama in the anime.

and also Hiruzen didnt even counter the Genjutsu. He simply stood and took a beating until he caught the two to get them sealed. The Shiki Fujin was already perfomed.

he also never stopped Minato's Edo Tensei. he never used any seals. He simply threw some shuriken. the Edo Tensei was stopped because Minato could not be summoed. it is very specifically said later by Kabuto in the war arc.

Imagine Hiruzen in his youth? Like what? the strongest of his jutsu was most probably the fire dragon jutsu and Hebi Sasuke performed much stronger fire jutsu that Hiruzen.

Hiruzen simply has shown nothing special even in his old age or his Edo self. he was already out of his breath with just using few jutsu in the Invasion arc. He was on the back seat throughout the whole fight, be it in the manga or the anime

while Oohnoki could use DUst release that could match power to power with an Edo, destroy a whole forest or multiple of Madara clones full body Susanoo and he was older.

@Flatzone

author says many things. Like Haku can move at light speed. so not everything is true. everything in the manga contradicts his own statement.

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Hiruzen was essentially the shonen trope of the wise old man who is supposed to be ultra strong, but in the fight he shows his true power he gets bested by the villain.

Hiruzen's invasion arc fight was about his ideology and will of Konoha and nothing more.

There are no real feats for Hiruzen.