Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-9782468-20200810145658

Yeah that's literal gatekeeping. I mean you're gatekeeping the title for your own terms lmao.

Your original point said Shiden is what put him at Kage level, so by not acknowledging the point it implied you didn't believe it. Btw it's not just his mind either.

It helps me because it shows that Kage do not always have some specifically unique tech unique to them. And your premise for Kage for some reason says you think they need something unique that sets them apart from other Shinobi, whereas a Kage like Kakashi doesn't have many if any traits or jutsus unique to him.

I've only been telling you about Naruto since pretty much all of his techniques aren't techniques that set him apart from everyone else. He elevated the use of his techs to that point. But you've kept saying that Kage need a unique ability that sets them apart. I've only been arguing that you actually don't lmao. All you need is high skill in what you have.

I never said that you said that Kage come out of the womb at Kage level. How are you somehow making up to put in my mouth to put in your mouth lmao.

Idk, other Jonin didn't grow like the Kage did so they didn't become the Kage, obviously. Do you think everyone in the village grows at the same rate and all of them eventually hit Kage level? Of course not. The current Kage grew past all the rest.

Really. You don't have any feats. Except the one where they worked together to land a solid hit on Kinshiki, the one who gave even Sasuke trouble. Aight then.

It's not a big deal, you tried to use Chojuro beating those kids as a detriment to his prowess, which I rebutted. All I've been saying was that his showing there befitted his role as Kage.

Someone did take away his sword and he remained as formidable as ever.

Idk what show you're watching but the Water Release he's shown has been pretty powerful.

Lmao the fact that you think Kisame isn't Kage level is hilarious.

You realize Zabuza was already shown to be below Kage level when he failed too kill his Kage, so a high-level Jonin like Kakashi besting him isn't some weird thing that happened, it makes sense. And even with Zabuza included, Chojuro is noted to be an exceptional swordsman among the Mist Swordsmen.

Considering we have almost no feats from a "prime healthy Nagato" I think that's a little hard to decide. I only joined because you decided that Chojuro and Kurotsuchi fighting Kinshiki was a feat that didn't make sense, since you've closed yourself off to the possibility that they just got stronger while the story wasn't focused on them.