User talk:Hmalkhawam

Hi Malkhawam! I just wanted to give you a special note. If you got one of your very interesting thoughts directed to me and I don't answer it after a few days, give me a note on my own talk page and I check it as soon I can. Jacce 16:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks Jacce! Mhalkhawam

Answer to Moves
The things that happends in the games are not considerd to be canon. However, in Shippuden he uses a more concentrated Chidori, even compared to Kakashis Raikiri, at least in Part I. When Sasuke is fighting Deidara, Deidara calls it Raikiri, although Sasuke corrects him with: "it is called Chidori". When Sasuke first learned Chidori, Might Guy called it: "Chidori, nicknamed Raikiri after Kakashi splited a lightning with it". I think that Chidori is the jutsus real name, while the term Raikiri that is used only by Kakshi to describe his more focused form of Chidori. After Orochimarus traing with Sasuke, Sasuke's Chidori is presumably worthy to be called Raikiri, although he seams to prefer to use the name Chidori. Jacce 05:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Since it seams like Kyubi was in control of Naruto when he enterd the Four-Tailed Transformation, I would say that the four tailed strong ball is a move used by the fox, which would mean that a nine tailed ball would be a fox move to. Considering the Three Tailed beast lack of intelligence, I would say that the ball move was something created by the fox using Naruto's mind. The Eight Tailed beast seams to be abel to use something similar, so I guess it simply is a massive amount of chakra fokused into a ball. Jacce 07:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I think you have a point there. They all have similar moves, which is why I said it was a massive amount of chakra fokused by the Jinchūriki. Since all the tailed beasts are "chakra monsters", I think thay all are capable to release a big amount of chakra without risking death. They are just using different types, like Shukaku who has a affinity for air uses Wind Release: Drilling Air Bullet while Nibi has a affinity for Fire and uses a fire blast. Eight and Nine however are so powerful thay can use pure chakra instead of element affinitys. That's what I believe. Jacce 08:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I hope I understood you right if I give you this answer: When Naruto uses the fox chakra up to the third tailed transformation the fox chakra leaks out and creates a shield around Naruto, sometimes called "chakra cloak". When he comes to the fourth tailed transformation the chakra cloak replaces his skin and transform Naruto to a medium for the fox chakra. So the forth tail transformation is simply the same chakra cloak as before, it has just more power and have replaced Naruto's skin. If you remember, Orochimaru's Kusanagi sword couldn't pierce the fourth tail transformation's skin. Jacce 09:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

They were presumably refering to his Kamui jutsu, but it was just vandalism. Jacce 06:02, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

The Rasengan he created with just Kyubi's power during the fight in the valley of the end has been nicknamed "Demon Fox Rasengan", but since Naruto seems unabel to maintain his mind from the Four-Tailed Transformation and forward, I think Kyubi wouden't use Rasengan, but if he would, it would supposedly be "Nine Tailed Rasengan" to separate the two. If my memory serves, Naruto has been given a full Nine-Tailed Transformation in some games, but not in the manga or the anime. The farest he have gone in the manga/anime is the Four-Tailed Transformation. My best guess about Sasuke's jutsu in episode 53 is that he was going to use Kirin. The stance is the same, although he diden't created any storm clouds. Don't know why: from story view I would say the considerd the clouds to be enough; and from real world view: Masashi Kishimoto diden't want to unfold Sasuke's new mysterious jutsu or just haden't completed the jutsu yet. Jacce 18:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Something that goes for everything from the games: it is not canon. So no, Naruto has not a nine-tailed transformation. Jacce 19:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. For now, he just have a miniature fox form. If he ever will be abel to use a full beast form depends on the seal on his stomach, his willpower and mental strength, if he survives Pain and Sasuke's attack and if Sakura dosen't beat him to death the next time he does something stupid and perverted. Jacce 19:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

That depends if someone else knows the jutsu. If Amaterasu should be transfered it must be done by either Sasuke or possible Mandara. Jacce 06:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry again. I think it still works, but we can't be sure until Mandara shows his face for Sasuke again. Jacce 06:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I know is that Itachi gave Naruto "some of my [Itachi's] power". What it was is still unknown, although I guess we will found out if/when Sasuke and Naruto fight next time. Itachi's gift to Sasuke was definitely Transcription Seal: Amaterasu and possible Tsukuyomi & Susanoo. Mandara says: "he [Itachi] transfered all his eye jutsus to you [Sasuke]", but it could be a mistranslation. Jacce 06:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The only thing I know for sure that Sasuke gain after absorbing Orochimaru is a improved healing factor, (he confirms this after his fight with Deidara when Snake leavs after discovering that the eight man squad is comming). And as far as I know, Orochimaru is the only one that knows how to use Living Corpse Reincarnation. Jacce 05:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean with "Raku". I have looked at Narutopedia and Leafninja and Google and haven't found anything that matches Chidori: Raku. The word "Raku" translated into English (using a dictionary) means "comfort (an), ease". Jacce 05:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Rinnegan could maybe inverse Living Corpse Reincarnation, but it is not sure. And the only time Kabuto has been seen with Orochimaru absorbed is when he found Yamato, Hinata and Naurto, giving them info about Akatsuki, so his new power is unknown. Jacce 06:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

So far he has only used one at the time. If he can use more is unknown. Jacce 05:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

A chidori with more power would presumably just enhance its power, although it is powerful just as it is, so more power could result in fewer chidoris that day or death for the user. To make it more concentrated, (like Kakashi's raikiri or Sasuke's chidori in part 2), the user would need to improve his/her chakra control. Jacce 07:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

A non-concentrated Chidori is more or less a big ball of electricity, a concentrated chidori is smaller, presumably more powerful, and looks more like a glove (refered to Raikiri by Kakashi). More thrust (I suppose higher speed), means that the hand holding the chidori cuts deeper. Jacce 12:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The reason the user must run in a straight line while using chidori is because it gives most thrust. Chidori is properly speaking just a ball of electricity surrounding the hand. In order to use it, the user must run at high speed (creating more power than just a simple punch) and throw a punch with the chidori hand. The force in the movement and the electricity cuts just about everything. Less thrust means less cutting power. Jacce 19:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I hope I got this right. At I would say he is doing a part II Chidori, also known as Raikiri (Kakashi only), and  he is using a part I chidori. And for the record, chidori senbon, chidori blade (and as far as I know) all Sasuke's new lightning moves starts with a chidori, then he is using shape manipulating chakra to form the chidori into whatever he needs. And since amaterasu is using fire, it might be a fire element jutsu, but since it's kekkei genkai, it's hard to say. Jacce 07:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

When Sasuke is using Kirin he is using natural lightning manipulated and controlled by a chidori. That might be considerd to be a mix of normal chidori with natural lightning. If he can use it the other way around is unknown and will supposedly stay unknown since he has Kirin. All I can say is that he would survive, since Kakashi once (according to Might Guy) cut a lightning in half with a chidori. After that, Kakashi nicknamed chidori to raikiri. Jacce 12:44, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

In part I Sasuke's chidori was more white than Kakashi's chidori/raikiri (that was more blue with a white core), supposedly because Kakashi had better control over his chakra. So far Sasuke has not used a normal chidori in the Shippūden anime, but I guess it is more blue, like Kakashi's raikiri. For Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana, Sasuke is sending a chidori into his sword blade, (at least if you trust Yamato). And in chapter 392 page 2, Itachi says that Susanoo was awaken with Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi "within these eyes on that fateful day". So yes, Susanoo is a mangekyo technique. Jacce 14:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back. Consider the possibility that it is more Demon fox then Naruto who makes the Demon Fox Rasengan, I don't think that Naruto's wind chakra can be added to this version of the Rasengan. If a shadow clone could withstand the pain it might work, like now when Naruto is making a Wind Rasengan with one clone adding the wind part. But the biggest question is: would it be worth it? We have only seen Demon Fox Rasengan in use once, and it wasen't easy to determit how powerful it was since it meet Sasuke's cursed seal chidori. Jacce 16:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure who or what you are talking about, but I guess you are refering to this picture. On this picture, it is the demon fox under the control of the Sharingan, just like when Sasuke controlled Manda with his Sharingan in chapter 363 page 11. It seams like Madara can control the nine tailed fox, like when Madara fought First Hokage at the valley of the end. Jacce 08:42, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I haven't played the games but after reading and seeing videos of them beeing used I have created a hypothesis; the game versions of tsukuyomi & amaterasu is just regular tsukuyomi & amaterasu used in different ways and named for the games special events. Hope that was helpful. Jacce 10:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I said in the commentary I nedded some time with that. Anyway, you have my theory lower down. I made a new section if someone else should have a opinion. Jacce 11:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I looked at shippuden episode 31 and couden't se chidori or Sai anywhere. However, if Sasuke would turn while using his chidori he would need a large area to turn on, somewhat like a long distans runner in the Olympic Games. Smaller turn = more loss of power. His brute strength could be useful at the end, when he is going to hit his target. And combinding a non element jutsu (shape manipulating) with element chakra (element manipulating), to make a element/shape manipulating jutsu is exactly what Naruto has done with Wind Release: Rasengan & Wind Release: Rasenshuriken, Sasuke has done with his chidori katana & chidori senbon and Kakashi with chidori. So if Kyuubi stands for the shape manipulating, Naruto stands for wind chakra. Jacce 11:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

In episode 51, the only time Sai is talking about brute strength is when Sasuke escapes his ink snakes. However, if Sasuke just would hit someone with chidori and just brute strength he would cause less damage, but presumably enough to kill someone. This happed in his fight against Naruto at the vally of the end. Sasuke made a good hole in Naruto's shoulder, but kyuubi saved Naruto from beeing killed. Jacce 12:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

He runs from one point to another, but he is still running straight, he builds up great power, using his strong leg muscles. I would say he simply stop (like if he hit something) and then turns and run back. Since he has some distans to the target, he can create big cuttingpower. Insted of turning, I would say that he uses chidori over and over again, only with the same electricity. Jacce 13:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think you are right. Jacce 13:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It wasen't easy to watch that, but I have created a theory; the thing Sasuke is doing when he changes direction in the air is taken from when Rock Lee fought Gaara during the chunin exam. Exept the fact that when Rock Lee did it he jumped from the walls and ceiling at high speed. I guess they thought of the time when Sasuke copied most of Rock Lee's taijutsu and thought that Sasuke should do the same. Doing something like that in the anime would presumably not be possible. Jacce 14:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The info about the cursed seals are a big mystery, but I shall make a try to explain. Sasuke's cursed seal, the cursed seal of heaven, enhanced Sasuke's chakra, strong enough to make a black chidori, and apparently his speed. When Kimmimaro used his seal his control over Shikotsumyaku increased. If this goes for Sasuke to is not clear, maybe he was abel to see more fast moving objects with his sharingan or he just became fast enough to dodge the object. Jacce 18:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I haven't seen anything about the growth rate was not normal. The only thing is that he has so good controll over his cursed seal that he can controll the was it grows. In part I he used the Seishingan drug to get to stage II, if he used any other drug is unknown. Jacce 05:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be impossible, unnecessary and stupid. Impossible = kirin moves faster then any human, ninja or not, can move. Unnecessary = kirin is powerful on its own. Stupid = if he would manage to beat the two first resons, kirin would kill him to. Jacce 11:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Water Prison Technique
Hello Malkhawam! What do you think of this thought Talk:Water Prison Technique? Jacce 20:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sora
The part with Sora's Kyubi chakra absorbed is true as far as I remember. However I don't think anyone has said who was the strongest, so that is up to anyones guess. Jacce 06:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Since Sora is a anime only character I doubt Naruto will be affected. However, I think it is possible that Kyubi got a boost of power with the absorbation.

Kirin
When Sasuke uses Kirin he first warn up the sky with Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique, then he uses a Chidori to draw down the lightning from the sky towards his opponent. Kirin is a independent jutsu, but requires a Chidori to prefrom. Jacce 07:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC) yes

Undeletion
I've merged your page history, however an old SMW bug is still cropping up. I am unable to undelete your history right now. Remind me sometime later to fix that when the bug has disappeared. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 7, 2008 @ 05:13 (UTC)


 * I don't like having to check old sections on my talkpage. And I'm not a walking Narutopedia, I'm more into organization. If you've got a question worth asking, just create a new section for it. Also can you please fix your signature. It has the wrong nickname text, and it is linking to a mainspace article, not your userpage (actually it would be nice if you added a talkpage link in your sig to). ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 7, 2008 @ 05:26 (UTC)

The demon in the uchiha clan
I have giving this some serious thinking, and have a theory. When someone activate the Mangekyo Sharingan, they awake some sort of demon inside themself, slowly starting their journey into darkness. A double Mangekyo Sharingan (a eternal Mangekyo Sharingan), gives the user control over their inner demon and its abilitys (immortality, teleportation, and so on). So far it is just a theory, nothing certain. Jacce 10:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Asking questions on my talkpage while I am blocked
Jacce I will ask questions here while I am blocked and you answer them here. What are the abilities that are increased while the cursed seal is synchronize with the regular body? Ss said by this sentence. The power of the cursed seal can even synchronize with the user's regular body with extended use (as stated by Sasuke during his second fight with Naruto), increasing the power of his/her natural state. And are the natural abilities increased while in the regular state or cursed seal state or both? As said in this sentence. The power of the cursed seal can even synchronize with the user's regular body with extended use (as stated by Sasuke during his second fight with Naruto), increasing the power of his/her natural state. And when the user expand upon the abilities of his Kenkei Genkai, is it in regular state or cursed seal state or both? As said in this sentence. It can also expand upon the abilities of a users Kenkei Genkai as seen with Sauske and Kimmimaro. Mhalkhawam HMA 19:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC).
 * The only thing I can say for sure is that the chakra level is increased, as the seal forcibly draw out chakra. If it is the seal that synchronize with the bearer or if Orochimaru just choosing a seal fitted for the victim is not known, but I would guess on the second. The part about synchronizing with the body is that with extended use the user can controll how mutch the seal spreads, giving the user power of a specific body part. The effect on a kekkei genkai only works in stage 2, like when Kimmimaro used his seal to improve his controll of his bones. Jacce 20:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce you forgot the part of increasing the power of his/her natural state which the question is what is the power that is increased. And are the natural abilities increased while in the natural state or cursed seal state or both? As said in this sentence. The Cursed Seal dramatically increases the users natural abilities such as Jirobo's strength, Sasuke's speed and Kidamaru's accuracy. Mhalkhawam HMA 20:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I would say that it is the natural abilities are enhanced by the cursed seal. Jirobo is strong, and his seal is making him stronger. Kidamaru is a great atcher and the seal helps him take aim. The first stage increases the chakra level, the second enhances the users natural abilities. Jacce 20:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce again you forgot the part of increasing the power of his/her natural state which the question is what is the power that is increased. So please tell me it Mhalkhawam HMA 20:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I would say their chakra level and something thay are skilled at/in: Sasuke's speed, Jirobo's strength and so on. This is just me speculating.

Is the chakra level you said above the power of the chakra (Like Madara's Chakra is very powerful) or the chakra amount? Mhalkhawam HMA 21:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Mostly the amount, but the chakra Sasuke showed was purple instead of yellow (manga)/blue (anime), suggesting that the cursed seal chakra is quite powerful. Jacce 21:08, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The sentence was The power of the cursed seal can even synchronize with the user's regular body with extended use (as stated by Sasuke during his second fight with Naruto), increasing the power of his/her natural state'. What is the power that is increased IN HIS NORMAL STATE (NOT CURSED SEAL) that is said in that sentence? Remember NORMAL STATE. Mhalkhawam
 * I would guess that their natural abilities are enhanced even without activating the seal. Jacce 21:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce is it only one natural ability that is enhanced or all (like speed or s/trength or both)? And tell me what would be the natural ability or abilities that are increased (even accurancy or anything else)? Mhalkhawam HMA 08:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Most of the info about the cursed seals are a big mystery. I would say one abillity, (like speed or strength) is enhanced during normal stage. Which abillity depending on the seal. I think Kidomaru has a third eye even without his seal, but his seal gives him even better accurancy. I would guess his clan are good archers. Jacce 09:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

For Sasuke what ability is increased (speed or strength) in normal? And if it is speed increased than how did Sasuke get a huge amount of strength in normal state? Mhalkhawam HMA 10:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I would say that Sasuke's speed increased, and that his anger and hate gave him strength, or he just had worked out enough to lift Naruto, or he had some juice left from when he enterd stage 2. Jacce 11:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce what did Sasuke train with Orochimaru for 2 and a half years? Mhalkhawam HMA 11:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Snake jutsus, Sharingan use, shape manipulating chakra, combinding shape and element chakra, ninjutsu, genjutsu, speed, stamina and seal knowledge are things that has enhanced. If he learned any more is currently unknown. Jacce 11:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Is Chidori Senbon, and Chidori Sharp Spear really Chidori variants? Because they never stated that. They just stated it was made out of lightning as said in [] but you have to find their names. And right Chidori Current is just Chidori without concentration to make it go through all the body or not? Mhalkhawam HMA 12:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * If my memory serves the name was given by the third databook. I am not sure what you mean with the part of chidori current, but it has been described as a "full-body chidori", so insteed of fokusing the electricity to the hand, it goes in the entire body. Jacce 13:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce what webiste is for the third databook (I want the website)? I don't want the name I just want to know is it chidori or lightning chakra that is changed to make Chidori Senbon, and Chidori Sharp Spear? And Also isn't the Chidori Current just a non focused chidori in the hand so it becomes around the full-body? Mhalkhawam HMA 14:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I haven't found any website for the third databook but leafninja only uses info from the manga, anime and databooks. You could try this page too . Or else it is just to wait until you can buy the databook in the bookstore or wherever they sell manga stuff. And Chidori current dosen't seems to be fokused. Jacce 14:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce I know the Chidori Current isn't focused, but isn't the Chidori Current just a non focused chidori so it becomes around the full-body than being in the hand or not? Mhalkhawam HMA 15:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * So you mean like that. From all I can see he dosen't create a chidori before activating the current, so I would say that current is a independent jutsu that creates a chidori arund the users body. Jacce 15:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce read this sentence. Sasuke Uchiha, has used the fundamentals behind the Chidori to create a number of lightning-based attacks. You can find it in this site [] , second paragraph, last sentence. And tell me what does that sentence mean? Mhalkhawam HMA 16:43, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * He has using the basic traning in lightning chakra to make jutsus like Kirin and the basic of Chidori to transform a chidori to a sword, senbon or a field around himself. Jacce 16:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

What is the basic of Chidori that you said so it can make Chidori variants? Mhalkhawam HMA 16:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Using lightning chakra and mix it with shape manipulating chakra. Jacce 16:57, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

That means it's not really Chidori? Mhalkhawam HMA 17:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC).
 * They have chidori as base, and some of them are made from a chidori. Kirin only needs a chidori as guide. Jacce 17:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Which variants are made out of chidori and which variants are made out of chidori's base (lightning chakra)? Mhalkhawam HMA 11:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I would say that Chidori Current, Chidori Senbon, Chidori Sharp Spear and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana was made out of chidori and that Kirin was made from the basics. Jacce 11:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Look at Sasuke Uchiha's Chidori in RPG Mode of Naruto Shippuden Narutimate Accel 2 and you can see it has 2 circles of lightning instead of 1 (Those circles around Sasuke when doing Chidori), please tell me why. And why is Sasuke Uchiha's Chidori in Vs Mode way more concentrated than kakashi's Lightning Blade (it's lines are super thin)? Please look at video's to find out. Mhalkhawam HMA 12:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I tryed this video, don't know if it shows what you were talking about. If it was right, I would say that the ring around Sasuke is wasted energi. And the more concentrated chidori can come from greather chakra controll. Jacce 12:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

That wasn't the video. Here is one of the video's. [], and tell me why does Sasuke have two blue circles instead of one around him while charging Chidori (pause it when he is charging Chidori)? Mhalkhawam HMA 14:24, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Those rings was present first time Kakashi used Raikiri and Sasuke used Chidori (at least in the anime). I think it is because some of the electricity flees from the users hand, since lightning is drawn to the earth's polarity. The rings are caused because the energy spreds in all direction. The number of rings is presumably dependent on how mutch energy that takes of and how mutch control the user has over the electric charge. Jacce 14:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce is Sasuke's Chidori in part II stronger than Chidori Current (latest time he used it), Chidori Sharp Spear( latest time he used it), Chidori Senbon (latest time he used it), Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana (latest time he used it), Lightning Blade (latest time Kakashi used it), Lightning Hound (latest time Kakashi used it), and Lightning Blade Double Charge (latest time Kakashi used it)? Mhalkhawam HMA 14:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Chidori Current, Chidori Sharp Spear, Chidori Senbon and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana was created from chidori, and all but Chidori Current starts with a chidori, so they are presumably equal. Chidori Current is presumably somewhat weaker, since it can't cut that mutch, but it is a entirely different type of jutsu, it is supposed to defend, not attack. In part I Kakashi's raikiri was probably stronger then Sasuke's chidori, but in part II they are probably equal. I don't think it is the jutsu who win the fight, it is the user. Lightning Hound is a completly new jutsu, it has only been shown once and then it was stopped, so it is impossible to say how strong it is. Lightning Blade Double Charge is just two raikiris, stronger, but less useful and more power draning. Jacce 15:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce is Sasuke's Chidori when fightning against Kirabi stronger than Lightning Blade (latest time Kakashi used it), Chidori Sharp Spear (latest time he used it), Chidori Senbon (latest time he used it), Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana (latest time he used it), Lightning Hound (just guess and latest time he used it) and Kirin? Mhalkhawam HMA 15:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * I would say Sasuke's chidori and Kakashi's raikiri is equal. And as I said: Chidori Sharp Spear, Chidori Senbon and Kusanagi Sword: Chidori Katana starts with a chidori, so their power are the same. Based on size, Lightning Hound is stronger then chidori, and Kirin is clearly stronger then chidori. Jacce 16:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce If Sasuke put the highest amount of concentration he can do and all his chakra to his Chidori and does it on his highest speed would it beat Kirin? And is Sasuke's Chidori when fighting against Kirabi stronger than Kakashi's Lightning Blade when fighting against Pain? Mhalkhawam HMA 16:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Since Kirin is made of natural lightning, it would be logical to say it moves with the speed of lightning (30 000 km/s, 1/10 of the speed of light) and I would love to meat the person who can run faster then that. And I would guess that Sasuke's part II chidori and Kakashi's part II raikiri are equal, since the power comes from chakra controll, (more power would just mean more strain to the body). Jacce 17:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Jacce let's say Kirin was at the speed of a airplane. If Sasuke put as much concentration he can put and all of his Chakra and used his highest speed, would Chidori be stronger or Kirin? Mhalkhawam HMA 19:27, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
 * Let us make one thing clear: Chidori will never be stronger then Kirin. Let's say Sasuke put all his concentration into a chidori = he vill have a sharp chidori, but won't be abel to move since he is fokusing on his hand. If he uses all his chakra = 1) he will not be abel to move since he has used up all his stamina 2) even if he would be abel to move: he would die afterwards for using up all his energi. And finally: Kirin covers a big area, chidori is good for one person. And one more thing, a airplane can fly fast but has slow acceleration, so Sasuke would probably be abel to outrun a airplane on a short distance. Jacce 19:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)