Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-9782468-20200811141459

Sidd77 wrote: Jeez. Can I not have opinions without it being called gatekeeping? Like I said, you and I have different definitions of what makes a shinobi kage level. The fact that you came here *just* to refute my claim when it wasn't even the main point of discussion, just a throwaway response to someone's answer is kinda petty imo. I wasn't looking for criticism on my argument, neither was I forcing my opinion on anyone else. If you really have nothing to contribute to the discussion, as seen by your one line response, then you shouldn't come after me in the first place. If you care so much about Chojuro and Kurotsuchi being kage level, then go ahead, I wont stop you. Maybe they fit your requirements for a kage, great! After that you said I hadn't even watched the show, attacking me personally, and not my argument. Also even if Shiden and Chidori are similar to Hell Stab, it's not like he took inspiration from the jutsu. Hell stab works in conjunction with 3rd Raikage's lightning cloak, while chidori has no such requirement. If you keep insisting that people know chidori and shiden making Kakashi not unique, let me put it like this. When Tobirama was alive, Flying Raijin and Edo Tensei were what made him unique because no one else could use them, obviously it changed over time, but that doesn't change the fact that Tobirama was the only one who knew them when he was Hokage. Same applies to shiden, no one knew shiden during the time Kakashi was 6th Hokage. While my reasoning does falter when it comes to Tsunade, it was her choice to teach Byakugou to Sakura. Also shiden isn't just purple chidori, it has it's own unique properties.

Also do you not know what sarcasm or exaggeration are? Obviously I was joking when I said Kage aren't born Kage. I never even said that you said that. Also Onoki has many signature techniques, not just one lol.

My point on Naruto is still proven because he invented the rasenshuriken and various transformation justu, which you decided to exclude for some reason.

TL;DR, I'm done arguing with you. If you want to respond, go ahead, I'll read it, but I'm not going to respond back. If you want to keep attacking me about how I've never watched the show and how I can't accept that a jonin suddenly became Kage level with no special training or new jutsu, then go ahead dude. I don't want to argue with someone who came to this post looking to be offended. You understand I came here to refute that because it specifically pertains to the debate right? You've been saying you're all confused about Kinshiki's power level due to Chojuro and Kurotsuchi faring well against him. I didn't come in just to attack you argument, I'm clearing something up since it has to do with how strong Kinshiki is, which is directly related to the debate here.

"I never said Kage come out of the womb at Kage level, you are putting words in my mouth." That's what you said to me, so yeah you claimed that's what I said. And like I said before, ask anyone what Ohnnoki's signature technique is and they'll tell you Dust Release.

First of all, transformation jutsu isn't Naruto's innovation. Second of all, literally every post I've made on this topic said that Naruto's Rasenshuriken was Naruto's only innovation. So no, I didn't exclude it, idk why you think I did.

I'm not offended lmao, just correcting misconceptions