Talk:Mui

Reason of Fire Element
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=HP4JKP9I in 01:35 (Naruto Blood Prision- E-ne promo)Hisagi. 17:08, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Knowledge
Mui showed knowledge of the body, striking pressurepoints which ultimately resulted in knocking Naruto out temporarily, should this be included in his ability ? --Zenryoku90 (talk) 14:40, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

He does show that ability and knowledge, so it should be okay to include I think. --Tzao (talk) 12:54, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Kekkei Genkai
so I just watched the Movie not too long ago (actually like only a few hours ago) and I think I remember it being Mentioned that the Fire Seal and Fire Sword were his Kekkei Genkai. did I misread the Subtitles or get a badly translated version of it or am I just being mistaken? Lordofninjas1 (talk) 01:01, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're mistaken. Only kekkei genkai in that movie is Ryūzetsu's. The fire techniques he uses are clan techniques. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:03, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

IDK if you misworded that or not but wouldn't Clan techniques be Kekkei Genkai (for instance the Yamanaka Clan Technique is the Mind Transfer stuff and its counted as there Kekkei Genkai since its a technique that only there Clan can do.) just saying if you worded it properly its kinda confusing. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 01:08, March 28, 2013 (UTC) No. Kekkei genkai are techniques that require a genetic background to use, and are most commonly seen in clans. Clan techniques are techniques who only clan members know how to use because they keep others from learning how to use them. Most clan techniques are hiden (not a typo, that's the Japanese term), but not all of them. Yamanaka clan techniques are not kekkei genkai. You know, this is very bread and butter Naruto stuff, you could have just read up on the articles about those, we write them for a reason. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:25, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

well that last part was mainly a Joke comment kinda showing you how confusing some wordings of things can be made and stuff (especially for newer users and such) all you could have said was Hiden techniques and I would have known. I know it's not a typo and such (like I said its mostly supposed to be a joke comment). and as for the Yamanaka I have seen no official confirmation of that I've seen debates all over the internet (including this site) as to whether it is Kekkei Genkai or not (not to mention I was on the Hiden page just before this and it even says in the trivia that its rumored but not confirmed and such. you can go check it out for yourself if you want. and don't try to edit it to say that its not there cause that would be cheating. Lordofninjas1 (talk) 02:06, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

I assumed you'd think it was a typo because 90% of the people who come around asking for hiden jutsu think it's a typo. If people anywhere think that the Yamanaka techniques are kekkei genkai, then they're stupid, as no official source has ever hinted them to be. The thing with the Yamanaka is that way back in part 1, their jutsu were never called hiden, they were just regular ninjutsu, even being given ranks and such, but as of some point in part 2, manga has been trying to change that, to play on the whole "three clans whose hiden jutsu complement each other" relationship with the Nara and Akimichi. However, even then, nothing in no medium ever has ever remotely suggested Yamanaka techniques to be kekkei genkai. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:36, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Your right omnibender, but wasn't the shadow techniques of the nara clan considered to be part of yin and yang release? -- User:Jmootam1999 Loves Naruto 17:39, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Either yin or yang, definitely not yin-yang. And yin/yang releases aren't bloodline limits, it's all techniques that aren't taijutsu or elemental ninjutsu I think. For yin-yang, it my opinion that requires a KKG--Elveonora (talk) 18:29, March 29, 2013 (UTC)