Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3365837-20160807162908/@comment-25218206-20160808094700

"so sasuke can actually kill shisui before koto even with large distance or shadow clones??"

Yes. Shisui is FAR slower than characters such as Tobirama and Hashirama. Now, both Tobirama and Hashirama were both blitzed by Obito to the point where even Hashirama couldn't see him. Sasuke speed is = to Momoshiki, and Momoshiki >>> Rinne-Sharnigan Madara >>>>>>> Toneri >> Obito >> Hashirama >>>>>> Shisui's speed. Even Hashirama would blitz Shisui

"I don't see sasuke winning against TTJ madara without the seal Obito with both MS is more formidable I guess..... "

Momoshiki is stronger than Madara and Sasuke can fight and keep up with Momoshiki. I would agree that 4th War Sasuke would get killed by Rinne-Sharingan Madara, but 4th War Sasuke can fight someone stronger and faster than Madara and keep up. Also how would Obito be more formidable? Obito was weaker than Toneri, Toneri was one shot by weakend SM+KCM Naruto and 1 eyed Madara (Who was stated to be nearing the Sage's level of power) is >>>>>>>>> SM+KCM. Madara power quite literally dwarfs KCM+SM Naruto's, Toneri's, and especially Obito's...

"oro can't be killed and wood release can stop any of sasuke's abilities with jiraiya it's one of the best combo.."

Orochimaru can't regen from Sasuke attack lol. KCM+SM Naruto would get 1 shot by Adult Sasuke but Naruto's (Who literally 1 shot Toneri's moon cutter) would kill Orochimaru in one punch...Same thing with Jiraiya. Neither of them have the firepower to harm characters dozens of times weaker than Adult Sasuke, let alone Sasuke himself...