Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3290849-20160123000240/@comment-25122992-20160123190231

JouXIII wrote: If EMS Sasuke really had PB — S, he would've used it against Ten Tails Obito. After all, if he had chance to go to humanoid Suanoo, I'm sure he would've went straight to PB — S.

As for Madara, he more likely talked about the fight in the Valley of the End with Hashirama and in that fight he used MA: S on Kurama and in that form he cutted the mountains... Also, Hashirama was surprised, when he saw Madara using PB — S.

It's just an assumption. For example, if I'd say "if MS Sasuke had armoured Susanoo, he'd have used it against Danzo", I'd be completely wrong cause Sasuke developed it afterwards, but still with the MS. MS/EMS doesn't give access to the higher Susanoo forms immediately (Kakashi is the only exception, but these were special circumstances, after all), the user himself must master them step by step - we have a great example of Sasuke learning this during Kage Summit Arc. So initially against Obito Sasuke's humanoid Susanoo with legs was the highest form he could achieve at that moment, yet he managed to develop the form suitable for the MA:S (the form higher than humanoid Susanoo anyway) when preparing to continue the battle. Why Sasuke didn't use this form (PS or not PS) from the beginning? The answer is clear - he simply couldn't, but thanks to his practice got used to it and developed Susanoo further.

Secondly, it's not so hard to deduce Madara talked about his pure PS. "This form is destruction incarnate" - means that it's destructive capabilities were already proven. "Only Hashi could stop it" - means some other people already tried to do so, and "Witnessing the PS is the same as death" - again means that someone aside from Hashi or 5 Kage faced it before. And it's pretty sure that PS couldn't be tested in a cave by elderly Madara, even with the Rinnegan.