Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32617252-20180624185603/@comment-26107879-20180710235454

@Elve

1) We're going for prime Orochimaru without Zetsu body. That basically means part 1 Orochimaru.

2) Minato's "strongest" technique was performed by a 70 year old man with a sword going through him who could barely form two shadow clones without health risks. In the hands of Minato, he was able to overpower Ninetails with a claw through his chest. Enough said.

Even without that technique, he still takes the fight. Orochimaru part 1 isn't anything amazing compared to part 2 characters. Seeing how he has little to no feats in part 2, he's basically more or less the same without Zetsu's body. His fight with Naruto was cool and all, but it didn't show anything we didn't already know. He has a killer sword and he has good regeneration.