Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33308438-20180614101055/@comment-34194151-20180713232548

I agree that Minato is one of the strongest in the series. But the mistake I keep seeing people making is saying that Minato is instant. FTG is instant not Minato. We have seen Minato get tagged (TTJ aren't instant, 14 yr old Obito's chain tagged him as well). Being capable of instananeous movemnet is as fast you can get, but its still limited by the fact the user can be reacted to when they appear. That said. Minato has insane base speed (the fastest ) and really good reflexes. But That doesn't suddenly mean that only TTJ characters can tag him. Minato can be surprised, he is still human. He can be caught off guard. We have also seen a teenage Bee react to his FTG, and Killer BEE is multiple speed tiers below him. While Minato is nigh impossible to hit if he is on the defensive, he is still vulnerable in close quarters where taijutsu skills come into play depending on the quality of his opponent. Another good example is V2 Raikage vs Sasuke. That version of Sasuke was multiple speed tiers below Raikage, but he still at least could react, regardless if his defense failed or not.

Also, I think while Minato generally wins this, Itachi's genjutsu skills aren't being given much justice. Kurenai is nothing compared to ITachi in genjutsu based on feats. She broke out of her own genjutsu, not Itachi's. Her genjutsu could be broken by mere self injury, but even Itachu's 30 percent clone could cast a finger genjutsu that required a huge amount of chakra to break out. Naruto, even with all his chakra, couldn't break out of ITachi's genjutsu, which is a testament to itachi's skill. Minato maybe aware of ITachi's eye genjutsu, but there is nothing to suggest that Minato is aware of Itachi's finger genjutsu. Minato is featless in genjutsu breaking feats and, I doubt he would be immediately be aware of Itachi's genjutsu too, since he lacks a sharingan. So this is a potential method that ITachi can steal a win off of Minato.