Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31099706-20170409163202/@comment-30426414-20170413193752

Rachin123 wrote: So now you are assuming he isn't already in Sage Mode. Because if he is, he won't be able to create, but 3 clones.

No I'm not assuming that, naruto starts off in sage mode like the title says. Naruto is only limited to 3 clones he has other clones gathering natural energy. If there are no clones gathering NE, he can create as much as his chakra will allow him. So what I was saying is that he can make 100 clones have most of them charge at danzo while a few sneak off far away to gather NE, baku sucking up very durable sage mode clones is a bad idea since they can destroy him from the inside with multiple rasengans and danzo would still have to defeat about 100 clones to get to the ones gathering NE, by the time he does so, they would be too far away for him to do anything. Not to mention naruto could just send more clones.

When the clones get far enough, naruto has to dispel his other clones to allow the ones gathering NE to do it smoothly.

Rachin123 wrote: Naruto didn't use a smoke bomb, he used the Rasengan on the ground, so clearly he had no smoke bombs.

Ok then he uses the rasengan instead of the smoke bomb, problem solved. And he did have smoke bombs, so he can use them to sneak off some clones since even 3 pains didn't notice when he did it.

Rachin123 wrote: Sasuke did not evade most of Danzo's wind attacks. He's was shielded by Susanoo. A major difference.

He dodged 2 of them: (1, 2)

Rachin123 wrote: I'm quite aware Naruto has more than the Rasenshuriken, but all other moves, requires him to get close, and I doubt Danzo will allow that.

He had no problem going toe to toe with susanoo, I don't see why he won't do the same with naruto. Also his strongest techniques can only land if he's close to naruto otherwise, they're easily evadable from long ranges. As shown in the sasuke fight. He always had to come close to use the wide ranged wind styles.

Rachin123 wrote: I never said Danzo's attacks will critically damage Naruto, at least not all of them, but they will indeed harm him.

Considering the fact that naruto can evade most of them, getting hit by 1 or 2 won't turn the tide of the battle in danzo's favor, especially since sage mode helps him recuperate faster.

Rachin123 wrote: That speed feat was fast, but Naruto has never displayed a speed feat like that again, other than quick bursting speed. Danzo can easily do such by using the Body Flicker.

It doesn't matter, naruto is still capable of it. All the times he's shown fighting the pains with taijutsu, his speed dominated theirs, they weren't even able to counter. Again, I'm not saying he's some speed demon, but danzo is clearly not as fast. I'm also talking about fighting speed not foot speed.

Rachin123 wrote: The Preta Path that got hit by Frog Kota, dodged Naruto's initial attack, so clearly Naruto striking speed isn't as fast as you make it out to be.

Unfortunately thats not what happened, he didn't dodge the initial attack because the initial one was the one that snapped his neck: (1, 2)

Rachin123 wrote: Even the Animal Path was able to go in a taijutsu battle against Naruto in taijutsu, although he was starting to lose his Sage Mode, with Naruto's training, he should have been able to still be superior, but wasn't.

You answered it for me, he was losing sage mode at that point, even pain said he was slowing down. That won't be a problem here since naruto has clones to replenish natural energy for him.