Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46486865-20200730051057/@comment-46486865-20200818005113

Sidd77 wrote: Looking at @CursemarkSenjutsu's arguments here I'm noticing three main points (correct me if I'm wrong). You're saying that, Hebi Sasuke is 'smarter' than MS Sasuke. He is as fast as V1 Raikage and Gaara's Lightweight Sand as he can dodge Amaterasu. His CM gives him a power amp that MS Sasuke can't deal with. Yes you are mainly correct First off, do you think that Hebi Sasuke would be able to beat the Raikage? The Raikage easily beat Jugo's Level 2 state, which is comparable to Sasuke's CM 2. Hebi Sasuke has no defense that can withstand the Raikage's power. The Susano'o is the literal absolute defence. If you want to say that Hebi Sasuke will just stay back and wait, then there's nothing stopping MS Sasuke from deactivating it and giving chase. You also said that Itachi's Susano'o is more complete, which is wrong. In the fight with Danzo, MS Sasuke reaches the armoured Susano'o, which is the same stage Itachi was on. Once again Hebi Sasuke and CM Jugo aren't on the same level. Hebi Sasuke tanked CM Jugo, and defeated him and Suigetsu without any Cursemark or Sharingan active. I am very not denying The Raikage's strength or the durability of MS Sasuke's Susano'o, but I'm saying he wouldn't have been caught by the Raikage. And don't deny the fact that MS Sasuke got Man handle by the Raikage and Killer Bee despite major aids by team Taka. It's not like MS Sasuke turns off and on the Susano'o without consequences. MS Sasuke's Kenjustu has also been reduced after seeing Killer Bee and Danzō fight him with it, so running after him isn't the smartest. My bad about that one the Susano'o level, but he's only kept that stage on for few seconds. The biggest point you're ignoring here is that MS Sasuke knows EVERYTHING about Hebi Sasuke, making him the smarter one here. Maybe Hebi Sasuke knows about Amaterasu but that's it. He has no clue about Kagatsuchi or the Susano'o. MS Sasuke also knows how to counter the eight branches technique. He doesn't even need the Totsuka Blade to kill the giant kaiju snake. Hebi Sasuke also knows everything about MS Sasuke's arsenal. He even knows about the strains of the Amateratsu from Itachi's fight and from himself after activating it. And Hebi Sasuke obviously knows about the Susano'o, he even saw it destroy the 8 Headed Snake and Orochimaru. Notice how Orochimaru saw the Susano'o and Itachi, but didn't care, despite knowing it's strengths, he was only oblivious to the Totsuka Blade. And MS Sasuke didn't use his MS abilities for Danzō's Summoning, his Susano'o was being Destroyed and he just stood there, he barely escaped, by using the Fire Style Fire Ball Jutsu to burn it and hit Danzō. And Itachi used the Totsuka Blade and Yata mirror, both of which Sasuke doesn't have. The curse mark is good, yeah, but there's no way in hell it compares to sage mode, which MS Sasuke could fight against and probably scales to. Your arguments are merely based on hypotheticals. *Maybe* CM 2 Sasuke can dodge Amaterasu point blank with killing intent. *Maybe* he can avoid Susano'o. *Maybe* he can out think MS Sasuke. All MS Sasuke needs to do is catch Hebi Sasuke off guard with Amaterasu and gg. CM 2 Sasuke has no speed feats that are major or on the level of V1 Raikage. Well too bad it does. Kabuto States that Jugo's clan Naturally absorbs the Nature energy from Ryūchi Cave, and Sasuke's CM is powered and Enhanced along with a portion of Orochimaru's Sage Mode. It may not be to the same degree, but still very powerful. MS Sasuke doesn't scale to SM at all. Not Even EMS Sasuke is near that level after being carried by Itachi against Kabuto. And I'm not saying Maybe to ANY of those, he actually CAN do it. Base Chidori MS Sasuke ~ V1 Raikage un speed. On the Chuunin Exams, a non-enhanced, Non-powered, non-mastered base v1 Cursemark Sasuke was able to move Naruto and Sakura from a Blast Sound Point blank, something he could never IMAGINE doing before. Now Here's a Sasuke who's better at ALL of those + Curse Mark. In speed Hebi Sasuke>>>> V1 Raikage~> MS Sasuke. And yes he is and can out smart MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke used his Change Chakra completely against Deidara whereas against Danzō in both Ninjutsu AND Kenjutsu MS Sasuke didn't use any Fire style Jutsu against Danzō despite Danzō spamming Wind Style, and MS Sasuke only used Fire Release on the Baku bc he was pressured by Danzō coming close to him, and all of that after standing still why getting attacked by Danzō+ Baku In my opinion, whoever Hebi Sasuke beat, MS Sasuke could beat, but the same doesn't apply vice-versa, proving that MS Sasuke is superior to Hebi Sasuke. Lol MS Sasuke litteraly only beat Danzō and even then There's too much evidence to support Danzō> MS Sasuke as he was even holding back, and didn't even have his Kotoamatsukami prepared.