Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35806245-20180607100011/@comment-734582-20180610105546

Soloking itachi15 wrote: The sharingan genjutsu is very difficult to break and especially by uzumaki who are not naturally good in breaking genjutsu or chakra control. Not really true. The sharingan allows casting of strong genjutsu, sure, but the Uzumaki are not especially weak against that. Soloking itachi15 wrote: The uchihas also with precog can easily fight the uzumakis as uzumakis were normally shown to be good in seals and seal only, not in ninjutsu. Speculation. Minato's techniques involve Uzumaki seals, including his barrier seal that could defeat even Bijudama. Jiraiya also used powerful seals in combat, allowing him to trap even Nagato's paths. We've barely seen any normal Uzumaki fight, since both Mito and Kushina had special chakra apparently even among the Uzumaki. Naruto's not a full-blooded Uzumaki and also has a bunch of other things going on (transmigrant, jinchuriki), so did Kushina (jinchuriki). We have no context on Karin (Is her healing ability special? Common?), and we don't know Nagato's base power (his senju lineage gets a special mention, implying he wasn't full blood Uzumaki either but part senju). That leaves us precious little information on what exactly a "normal" Uzumaki is. Well, other than strong lifeforce/ longevity. Soloking itachi15 wrote: This is hypothetical ,if any uchiha dies in battle then anyone close to them will awaken the MS. No, that won't happen. Both Obito and Itachi mention that after Madara awoke his MS, there was a scramble among the Uchiha to awaken it too. Yet nobody did so naturally until Shisui got his. The others (Itachi, Sasuke, Obito) got it from an MS user's machinations. Soloking itachi15 wrote: In a all out war,the uchihas were equal to senjus and were known for their combat strength unlike uzumakis The Uchiha were inferior to the Senju. Close enough in strength to be a match, but eventually they lost. Also, we don't know the Uzumaki's combat strength. For all we know they were legendary in combat, but using fuinjutsu. Adamantine Sealing Chains can subdue enormously powerful enemies (e.g. Kurama or Zetsu's wood construct) with relative ease. I would put that on a level not unlike the Mangekyou.