Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20160721110047/@comment-28885945-20160726145656

Tsunade "breaking" aka cracking or putting a sword into a incomplete susanoo not full powered doesn't mean she one punches a toad, also Jiraiya had that toad mouth he stayed in for awhile and could have kept on hiding from pain but he decided not too so he could probably stay in there while summoning ma and pa, BUT if he couldn't its totally reasonable to say he reverse summons out enters sage mode in an instant because of mount myobuku and come back and whoops her just because he didn't do it against pain doesn't mean he won't just like kakashi not using a water dragon against obito doesn't mean he can't lol. He has too many toads that are agile and their oil flame bombs will incinerate Katsuya who isn't fast at all.