Talk:Genjutsu

I dont understand what is genjutsu, can it kill you? the only way to escape it is "Self-Inflicted pain?" because that is real pain, not like genjutsu pain that is fake?
 * Genjutsu is illusions, so as far as we have seen, they can't kill you or cause pain, (only make the victim think they are in pain or tied up or something else), although Tsukuyomi is said to be abel to cause real damage to a person without Sharingan, (although that has never been seen). Genjutsu is caused by a enemy that manipulate the victims chakra, which causes the illusion. If the victim can't shut off his chakra, he has to hurt himself to get back to the real world. Jacce 06:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The only instance where Genjutsu was used to kill someone was in the filler episode arc where a clan woman had a kekkei genkai that boosted her genjutsu to a ridiculous extreme, allowing her to kill people with Genjutsu. Omnibender 12:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I wouldn't say the only time, honestly Genjutsu is a tool just like all other jutsu, it may not directly injure you, but it makes someone insanely vunerable. There have been plenty of points in the series where someone used Genjutsu to blind a person's senses and then attempted to attack them directly. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Jul 17, 2008 @ 17:11 (UTC)

Genjutsu
when trapping someone in a genjutsu, it makes the opponent experience non-real things but does that mean that the opponent is unconscious in reality? btw, if this is true, can the person who casted the genjutsu do whatever they may want to the unconscious person while they are unconscious? --75.3.231.166 (talk) 00:01, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Usually, the victim just freezes. With extremely powerful genjutsu, such as Tsukuyomi, the opponent can be sent into a coma.--Enoki911 (talk) 02:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Clone
Genjutsu has no effect on clones (or at least till after it is dispersed back to the user), should be mentioned. Simant (talk) 03:10, January 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Didn't Itachi give his power to a shadow clone (via genjutsu)? ~SnapperTo 03:23, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to demonic illusion burning paper body versus Kakashi, and what Itachi said was the reason it would have no effect. What shadow clone did he give power to via genjutsu? Simant (talk) 03:26, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was referring to this since it wouldn't make sense for the actual Naruto to be out searching with his shadow clones. Looking at Kakashi v Itachi, I think Itachi is remarking that he didn't expect to catch the real Kakashi in a genjutsu and so concluded it was just a shadow clone. Whatever the case, the shadow clone does seem to be affected by the genjutsu (minus "OMG mind hax" exclamations), so I think I'm missing something. ~SnapperTo 03:42, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought that naruto's shadow clones found itachi and the real naruto went to investigate, i'll re-read. Simant (talk) 03:51, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure the real naruto ran into Itachi, otherwise he wouldn't be having a flashback about what to do when facing the sharingan, he would charge in, not really caring if he was one of his clones. Also judging by how many clones he had nearby, he probably was using them as a screen. Simant (talk) 04:48, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still, Kakashi's clone was affected by the genjutsu. So, clones can be affected.--Enoki911 (talk) 02:25, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

How it works.
I am still a tad confused on how it works, so I was hoping someone could clarify. It is like this though, right?
 * The victem is captured by one of their senses (something they have seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or touched) and then it spreads to the rest of their body to infect the rest of the senses. Since the mind "knows" what is happening to it even when the concious mind knows the truth (i.e. no in a wasteland with strings around arms and flesh melting off), it makes the body feel the pain the user is sending, and if it too much for the mind to handle (like with C) it just shuts down rather than face it. Perhaps the chakra in the mind is even the cause of the weariness (C still had trouble afterwards). Thomas Finlayson (talk) 05:59, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

The caster uses their chakra to attack one or more than one of the senses that you listed. It may not necessarily "spreads to the rest of their body to infect the rest of the senses" but causes one to malfunction creating a handicap that the opponent is not used to. The body reacts according to what it sees or it's senses are perceiving and acts accordingly so pain etc will be felt unless they can break out of it. And C body didn't shut down, i'm pretty sure Sasuke knocked him out with the genjutsu him being unable to move was an after effect of whatever genjutsu Sasuke placed on him --Cerez365 (talk) 13:25, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * When Shikamaru was fighting that Sound Four girl, the "sound" made him see something else and feel pain they do not expect. Other examples too. What I am getting at is how they feel pain and see/feel other stuff when an unrelated sense is being affected. How would an illusion just make C not move (not sense related) unless his brain just shut down to get away from it? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 00:31, July 14, 2010 (UTC)