Template talk:Infobox/Naruto/Character

Development Questions
Simant (talk) 21:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Debuts:
 * 1) How many pictures should be allowed for each character in the Infobox (Pain and Kagerō Fūma have two images)
 * 2) Debut, most Akatsuki members have multiple "debut," for hologram and for in person (i even think I saw others, like voice only...); Should it be handled by just keeping the "in person" debuts?
 * 3) As for the Debut Manga and showing the title, could I perhaps add the english title to semantic properties of the volume it is contained in and then link it to Chapter Name.
 * Jutsu/Family:
 * 1) As for the family members, using only a single property (Parent), I am unsure how to remove duplicate siblings without using counter variables or array with an #arraysearch. (My workaround with arraysearch)
 * 2) Sorting: I'm not sure how you want the infobox to do a sort of the jutsu, since the #ask sort won't work with how I setup the single media users. (Maybe I did it wrong?)
 * 3) Would it be possible to streamline a custom version of ArrayExtension for the infobox and remove other features? Keeping only arraysearch, arraysort, arrayprint, arraydefine (and the things they rely on).


 * Definitely support sticking to one, actual debut in the debut parameter. Being mentioned/making some easter egg appearance is not a "debut". That stuff can go in trivia or work itself into a reference. ~SnapperTo 22:03, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Images in the infobox is irrelevant, the parameter supports a special format for multiple images, so number is irrelevant. Famly is a tough thing, this is one reason why I dislike the way MediaWiki emphasizes shoving everything inside the page text. It makes mutual sibling relationships nearly impossible. As for sorting, just stick with alphabetically sorting jutsu by name, we don't need fancy grouping. Just use the template= parameter to allow you to add the (Media only) text after an item. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 17, 2009 @ 23:12 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to do anything fancy with sorting the jutsu names (Just trying to conform to how it is done already with anime/manga together). Look at Infobox:Sandbox to see how the jutsus are displaying properly except for being sorted. Its just that even if I do use the ask sort for one query of the media, the way I setup single media users will require a second query, and I need to sort them both together. As for removing duplicates from family look at Gaara's Characterbox, here. Family displays checking children from each parent, which causes duplicates; the code which I want to try to use to remove the duplicates can be found commented out Template:FamilyTree under the siblings part of the switch statement. Simant (talk) 23:40, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

As I have said before, you are doing the jutsu list wrong. You're over-complicating it. Also the game jutsu and movie jutsu should not be present on this page, even if you hide them they still bloat the infobox, not everyone has JS. And this infobox should NOT have "previous" sections. That was something to be removed in this version of the infobox, they caused nothing but trouble in the old infoboxes. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 27, 2009 @ 05:21 (UTC)
 * Please tweak the Jutsu infobox to stop outputting "User Anime Only" and instead output User tech::Naruto Uzumaki; * or User tech::Naruto Uzumaki; Mediatype for jutsu that are "??? only" or jutsu that are "??? only" for a specific character. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 27, 2009 @ 05:53 (UTC)
 * Done. Didn't know that semicolons could be used as separators in a single property. Simant (talk) 19:49, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, could you direct me to a page that instructs in the use of queries with properties with multiple values? Simant (talk) 00:48, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Many-valued_properties Though I may be able to handle the actual implementation. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 29, 2009 @ 01:32 (UTC)
 * The output is a bit wrong. User tech should only output *, Anime, Game, Manga, or Movie in the second field. Things like "Anime, Manga" should output *. That field should ONLY be something other than * if it is supposed to be a "??? only" jutsu. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 29, 2009 @ 01:47 (UTC)
 * I know it would be kinda redundant with the data but, could I include jutsu media in the User tech; if it is a single media in the jutsu media field? Simant (talk) 22:58, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok fixed it. Now what about Family? Edit: The jutsu ask queries are kinda ugly since they look through each user to find the actual user then find the single media appearance. Simant (talk) 20:18, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see the simple ask query on Infobox:Sandbox for jutsu, however it doesn't seem to remove the media if the media matches the appears in media of the character, so (example) all guren's jutsu would say anime only next to them. Also, it doesn't seem to list media for * either. Also my workaround (using a switch statement) for not being able to use ! operator's effectively won't work with a single unmodified ask query. Simant (talk) 03:01, December 31, 2009 (UTC)