Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-24824859-20180305212354

Vladosaurus wrote: Same for Guy. If Naruto engages in close combat with a rasenshuriken and some shadow clones, Guy is dead. And i like to believe that the guy with SM mastery has a better chance of reacting than the guy with Gates. And as seen multiple times, reaction time beats speed. How exactly will Naruto make a Rasenshuriken while engaging in close combat? This isn't Adult Naruto, who still needs some seconds to form a Rasenshuriken. Reaction time doesn't always beat speed, otherwise SM Naruto would be untouchable. Nashikeine wrote: and Naruto suddenly cannot use Frog Kata at close range? really. all SM Naruto has to do is swing a fist.

Hirudora's power is still debatable as so far it hasnt really killed anyone, even Kisame, and please dont say Kisame has more durability than SM Naruto.

on the other hand Frog Kata has shown to kill a Path of Pein and a punch from SM Naruto shatter another path to pieces.

also, for crying out loud, a point i have been making again and again that people seem to ignore, Base Naruto survived Shinra Tensei with the help of clones. durability wise that is another level and that too at base. How is that exactly going to stop Guy, when he can just counter with equally powerful strikes? So, you're saying that Naruto can tank Hirudora? Yeah, no. If Hirudora might not kill Naruto, it will surely leave him incapacitated ,br> How does still prevent Guy from relentlessly attack Naruto? Nauruto used clones to barricade himself from being flung. How is that on the same level as actually tanking highly-destructive force?