User talk:Elveonora

Re: in theory
Yes. But if the enourmous use of Izanagi, which also requires Hashi's cells, is a fact, then there's of course the possibility that someone of those Uchiha knew how to use Kotoamatsukami. Either that or Itachi somehow knew it from Danzō. Seelentau 愛議 19:10, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Chapter 658
LOL xD Yeah, I liked those scenes and you know, I hope that the same guy who animated Chibaku Tensei's episode will animate this part as well. Also the last panel of this chapter was really outstanding, he ripped out the poor Zetsu's arm and restored his right eye like nothing. Really amazing... — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 15:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly, by the way .... Tomorrow we have an episode which the battle between Naruto and his group vs. Tobi reaches its climax, it'll be an incredible episode, don't miss it. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:35, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with every point that you mentioned. It's time for Madara to start dancing with harmonic feeling to revenge. The main question for this chapter is how Madara could activate his Susanoo without his eye? I wonder about that... — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:38, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, no medical ninjutsu at all. As I recalled from his statement about Hashirama's ability to heal himself without using any seals. I think that Madara acquired some of those abilities from Hashirama besides gaining the senjutsu. As you know the Sage Mode helps its user to gain his strength so much as stated from Naruto's usage for Rasenshuriken and Kabuto's usage for his White Rage technique. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:11, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Obito VA
Glad to agree with me, still we'll have to use this new voice and let's see how Takagi will deal with his new rule. And as you know, I'm be used to get excited for the anime more than the manga.... Madara, you saved the both of them in this week. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: tb question
It's confusing, I know. Even when Kurama took over Naruto, he spoke with his mind, not opening his mouth. I like that kind of speaking and I can't imagine an entity like a tailed beast to speak as "swift" as a human, using its lips and everything. So I go with the mind speaking. Seelentau 愛議 16:30, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dunno, I never really noticed it. You can't say how a human speaks just from drawings. So the weird kind of speaking without using the mouth is anime-only. Seelentau 愛議 17:04, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

You've see this??
Kabuto is 22 here, so he was 17 5 years ago. I guess you could fit this into your Kabuto timeline?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:48, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Try this one then ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:55, January 2, 2014 (UTC) kabuto sais it has been five years and sasori sais kabuto yakushi were you followed?Iloveinoxxx (talk) 17:56, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

This was about 6 months before Sasuke betrayed Oro, Gaara(January) and Naruto(October) were still 15, so Kabuto(February) was still 22. That means he was 17 5 years ago. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:09, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Kabuto stuff
But... but all of my dates are backed up by the manga :(


 * Orochimaru left Konoha 3 years aNb, Kabuto became Genin 3 years aNb. We know that they left Konoha's ANBU together and that Orochimaru send Kabuto back to Konoha with the fake background.
 * Kabuto began to work for the ANBU five years earlier, meaning 2 years bNb, after having been found by Nono 2 years ago, meaning 5 years bNb. Why is it nonsense that he was two years old at that point?
 * Orochimaru left Akatsuki 6 years aNb, as stated in chapter 238 and 353, with Kabuto at his side.
 * Kabuto was a spy for Sasori after Orochimaru left Akatsuki, though Oro discovered Sasori's technique and made him his spy instead.

I didn't make this up, you know? o: Seelentau 愛議 18:58, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's probably the meeting Kabuto mentioned five years later, but Orochimaru isn't there because he already left Akatsuki and Kabuto worked as Sasori's spy. Seelentau 愛議 20:21, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because it's a timeline. First Oro wants to know about Akatsuki, then his time with Sasori in Akatsuki comes, then he's left Akatsuki and Kabuto works as a double spy. Seelentau 愛議 22:34, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: opinion
Forum post comes later. My plan is quite big. But before I do anything I need to know what the other sysops think about the issue first.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:33, January 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh it is grandiose. And i'll prob get me in trouble. Hence why Im asking questions first. And I meant whatever means "drooling". I'm just a god tier speller and those discussion pertain to my interest.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 16:31, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Help
Can you tell me how to archive my talkpage please and thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 15:58, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

ThanksMunchvtec (talk) 16:37, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Kaguya
The theory is found here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=944476 Celebrei (talk) 23:27, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Shiki Fuujin Kai
Based on the talk page of Shiki Fuujin Kai, you also noticed that Orochimaru needed to be in front of the Tablet to unseal the Reaper, this is true, think about it: Sasuke said "Appearances (Naka Shrine) does not matter, the important item is downstairs, let's go" and we see Sasuke lighting the candles in front of the Tablet, and Orochimaru donning the Mask in front of the Tablet, even crouching in front of it to summon the Reaper, now why would Sasuke said the Uchiha Tablet was important if he didn't read it? unless, the immediate use of the Tablet was for the immediate purpose of unsealing the Reaper? now others argue that perhaps Sasuke read the Tablet off-panel, however this is very unlikely, when Hashirama asked Madara how he knew about the Shinju/Kaguya/Hagoromo story Madara replied "So it is written in the Uchiha Tablet" Hashirama would've at least an idea of where Madara learned this if Sasuke read the Tablet after his talk with the Edo Hokages (and Kishimoto would've shown Hashirama having a flashback of Sasuke reading the Tablet after the latter made his decision) but there wasn't, because Sasuke never read the Tablet, the importance of the Tablet (as Sasuke said) was to use it in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper, and that is why Orochimaru took forever to unseal it and get his arms back if the Mask was the only thing needed, because he needed Sasuke's Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Shrine for the catalyst of the Mask to work: the Tablet.

This is Kishimoto's deliberate and ultimate form of obfuscation to hide the relationship the Uzumaki Clan has with Hagoromo. Celebrei (talk) 23:46, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Tablet
Well if all Sasuke and co. needed was privacy then why didn't they unseal the Reaper and summon the Hokages in the Uzumaki Mask Storage Temple? it's pretty much abandoned and would provide the same kind of privacy the Naka Shrine served.

And if we look at it from a logical and deductive perspective:

Orochimaru wanted to possess Sasuke, but even if he did possess Sasuke, the soul part of his arms would still be sealed inside the Reaper, so Orochimaru still needed to retrieve it, but in doing so would kill the host body (which is Sasuke) so what Orochimaru should have done is have one of his fanatical servants sacrifice himself/herself for him to wear the Mask and unseal the Reaper so he could get his arms back, of course he could have done this even before possessing Sasuke because if the sacrificial servant would unseal the Reaper for him the soul part of his arms would just go back to him anyway without harming his host, that is, if the Shinigami Mask was the only thing needed to unseal the RDS, so why didn't he do it before? answer: it's because Orochimaru couldn't, the Mask itself is not enough to unseal the Reaper.

What Orochimaru intended was to possess Sasuke and use his Sharingan to open the sealed door to the Naka Shrine and have of his servants sacrifice himself for him to unseal the Reaper to get his arm's soul back while preserving Sasuke's body, because the catalyst for the unsealing is inside the Naka Shrine: The Uchiha Tablet.

Also, one cannot argue that Orochimaru was the one who was necessary to perform the unsealing to get his arms back, for Orochimaru was determined to possess Sasuke even before he got his arms back, if Orochimaru was successful in possessing Sasuke, he would not dispose of his body, Orochimaru will not wait three years again to perform the Reaper Death Unseal and dispose Sasuke's body just to get his arms back since Sasuke's body is Orochimaru's prized possession, therefore, it only stands to reason that anyone performing the Reaper Death Unseal is sufficient to get his arms back once his arm's soul had been released from it. So why didn't Orochimaru have one of his lackeys unseal the Reaper before? because they don't have access to the Naka Shrine were the catalyst for the unsealing is: The Uchiha Tablet.

This is just too obvious to be wrong, so we just have to wait until Kishi reveals more about it. Celebrei (talk) 01:59, January 10, 2014 (UTC)