Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20181120004721

@Loneninja

Still downplaying itachi's feats I see. you can clearly see that Kurenai and asuma saw itachi's shadow clone form BEHIND kakashi literally not more than a panel after kakashi's water clone dissipated. Itachi obviously casted all his seals in his robe before releasing the shuriken, the water technique resolved first, then the shadow clone came afterward. Kurenai is an experienced ninja and she knows what a kage bunshin formation looks like. the only thing she couldn't track was the substitution jutsu itachi used. Itachi simply substituted with his clone and kakashi saw it from underwater thanks to the sharingan. so yes, Itachi has the kage bunshin mastery to spawn clones where he wants. He is a genius. This is literally the running theme behind itachi's chracter. Even if we go by your logic, you are literally saying that itachi can move faster than 3 jounin level characters and one bijuu level character(kisame) can percieve. I have no reason to believe that orochimaru konan or kimimaro can track that speed. So regardless of how itachi does it, he is getting his clone behind them at the start of the fight, because he has done it not only to jounin level, he did to a perfect sage in kabuto lmao. So yeah, no, he is doing to these 3 opponents. lmao no, kakashi's water clone has it's own consciousness, and it was clearly surprised by itachi appearing behind it. Kakashi obviously made his clone behind the cover of the water wall and sneaked underwater as apart of his misdirection strategy. Kakashi literally does that same exact bunshin feint in 99 percent of his fights, he even did it to zabuza. Kakashi had no idea that itachi made a clone until after the fact.

And like I said, itachi uses totuska blade immediately as an offensive technique when he is both bloodlusted and facing an immortal opponent. Last I checked, he used it immediately on orochimaru. and he used it immediately on nagato once he realized that edo tensei can't be killed by amaterasu. So yes, he is using at the start of the fight alongside his clone feint. You gave examples of itachi either holding back or not going for the kill to discredit his usage of the totsuka blade, but I have debunked it.Furthermore, yes, konan can't react because I have no reason to believe she has the reaction feats to do so when orochimaru and nagato couldn't.

I already showed itachi reacting to attacks from underground. he now knows what to expect from kimimaro and can jump out of the way. he doesn't have to dodge attacks from konan, he can simply block with susano'o and focus on kimimaro. You are the one twisting my statements. I never said itachi is omniscient. What I did say is he is smarter, quicker, more reflexive and faster than each of his opponents in every way. That means their distractions won't slow him down enough.

3 mangeyko techniques caused itachi to be tired but he in no way shape or form was incapable of fighting. we have seen how far sick itachi can go, so healthy itachi's stamina should be fine for these three opponents, they won't outlast him because itachi literally beats them in every other stat. @Ninja of War,

Even if you think that Nagato couldn't sense the blade ahead of time, it still is a huge object coming at him and he can see with his eyes. Kabuto isn't an idiot. He would have had nagato use preta path to absorb the blade, so shinra tensei cool down is actually irrelevant. as far as kabuto is concerned, he could have tried having nagato absorb the blade because it is presumably made out of chakra. Furthermore, Orochimaru clearly got blitzed in between words. The totsuka blade isn't instant but it's clearly extremely fast. Orochimaru was searching for that sword all his life for a reason people, and orochimaru is quite a busy guy.