Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26104757-20170215150638/@comment-27924662-20170309012143

I think madara and hashirama were exception to the rule. Madara was made stronger than his prime(i.e rinnegan in his prime with wood release), whereas hashirama was bought back in almost his clone body the white zetsu. It's one of the reasons why Oro couldn't control Hashi even though he could control tobirama.