Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3965545-20170621043245/@comment-27797856-20170623214219

Rachin123 wrote: @BerserkerPhantom

Nobody here said that Itachi was "way above Sannin level". I don't know where you got that from. Also, why are you using stats? They cause nothing but confusion. Also, I haven't seen any notable moments where Itachi had "plot armor". He is one of the few characters who haven't to rely on plot to battle. You talk about its plot that with his shit stamina that he is able to do as much as he can do, but the fact remains that he can't last very long in a battle as proven. You have no way to scale his stamina because he has never been pushed to the extent he his battle with Sasuke, and he was sick. I would say however that giving him the Totsuka Blade was just for plot convenience, aka sealing Orochimaru. As for the Yata Mirror I don't know as it has never been used in the way that its databook entry says it can do. By overall, I don't understand why you are going out your way to try and downplay Itachi for someone who claims he loves him. You say you are being realistic, yet I don't see it. This has nothing to with you disagreeing with me, because I never said Itachi was way above the Sannin level, neither has anyone else. Clearly you are reading too much into the comments and you took what you wanted to hear. (Oh, and sorry for the late reply, I saw the comment a few hours before, but It was too much of a hassle for me to reply to it though my phone... :p) "I have to disagree. Clearly Itachi is Sannin-level or above. There is no "seems to be"." You gave me the idea that you're suggesting Itachi being way above sannin level by citing that he's "clearly" superior, which he isn't. Didn't mean to undermine you and anyone else, so... pls calm down with this whole "conspiracy-esque" thing of yours...

I don't know what I'm using stats, just threw them out, not that they matter anyways...

"Plot Armour" is a generalised term, meaning it's not used only to describe battles in which a character wins. It's an understandable plot armour, as without it, there would be little plot for Sasuke, but it's plot armour nonetheless.

And again, I'm not in any way trying to diminish Itachi's feats, just, not to repeat myself, but here goes: Itachi being above sannin-tier is a tad ridiculous. And to elaborate, what would be above sannin-tier? Kage tier and Naruto/Sasuke-tier, and Itachi is ways from being Kage tier (though again, so is pre-IV War Kakashi imo).

@"Rachin, if they keep with the Itachi hate. Can you delete their comments and give them warnings? This thread is clearly not where they belong." (too lazy to quote it, due to the comments ridiculousness...): Yeah, mods should suspend you just for suggesting that. Read the forum rules... "This thread will cover his feats, strengths, and weaknesses including Manga, Novel, and Anime info." (Why did you even include this, then? :/)If you want a group of "YES MEN", go make a blog or something...

EDIT: Oh, and this thread should be moved to the "Theories and Speculation" category, as there's a lot of spec. regarding Itachi and his abilities in addition to factual information. Just throwing it out there. :)