Talk:Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist

Debut
Any particular reason for that chapter/episode as the debut? I believe the debut should be either when they were first mentioned, which would place the debut around Zabuza's introduction in the beginning of the series, or when they first appeared as a team, which would make it a post-mortem debut, as resurrected shinobi. Opinions? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:14, February 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Given that the term itself applies to multiple generations, rather than just those who appeared post-mortem, I think the first mention is the more appropriate of the two options that are suggested, which I believe is also consistent with what is done with other such groups. Blackstar1 (talk) 02:40, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Since most members are "former" (deceased or defected), I'd say Zabuza's debut would mark the group's. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 04:37, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Though I'd prefer it if it were when we say the group during the fourth war, there are multiple generations so it seems better to go with when the group was mentioned in this instance.--Cerez365™ 10:25, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok then, I go for the group's first mention. I'm not finding any reference to the group when Zabuza first appears, at least in the manga. What episode was that image that only had silhouettes from? Do we still have that? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:05, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uhm, I checked the page history and it doesn't seem so. You might want to revive (File:Seven swordsmen.jpg) to see if it has the rationale information. I can't remember where the silhouette's from either.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 16:16, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just checked the history, the rationale never listed the episode. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:41, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Differentiating Generations
i personally think the members should be divided by what generation of the seven swordsman they belonged to, previous or current/recent i.e. Zabuza's Generation should be listed together (the seven revived ones), While their successors should be marked, i.e. Chojuro, Kisame, and Raiga, seperately. I was thinking dividing it in a similar fashion to how the edo tensei is divided amongst who summoned them.

these are my thoughts, do with them what ye will Shadowfox337 (talk) 00:22, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Second coming of the demon
What does it stands for ? I always thought that it refer to Zabuza "the demon" but Zabuza was just a member of the group and Mangetsu leader, so why is the latter called second coming of the demon ? Maybe I have missed something--Elveonora (talk) 12:55, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Bump, any idea ?--Elveonora (talk) 20:12, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

I think it was because Mangetsu and Suigetsu were adept at killing like Zabuza. Joshbl56 20:22, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Possible ... just wonder what the term does refer to--Elveonora (talk) 20:28, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

missing members?
Since I don't read the manga I wouldn't know if it says something about it but, wasn't Jinpachi Munashi and Jinin Akebino mebers before their death? --Kasan94 (talk) 15:22, May 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * This is not really something regarding my first question, but thought i might write it here anyway. How come, I can't change the infobox on this page, but other pages I can?--Kasan94 (talk) 19:17, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Yes they were. You can't be a member and dead. Why do you ask? As for your second question, the infobox or page may be locked to editing.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:19, May 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * For the first question. It was because earlier today their names wasn't showing, and nether the gender of one of the others, maybe just a bug from my computer, since they are there now. Second question. Ahh okay I have seen now that it is with most groups, but not with the persons.--Kasan94 (talk) 19:24, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Now, Kushimaru isnt listed among the members, and Mangetsu with Raiga dont have their genders said there. Take a look on it please --VolteMetalic (talk) 20:02, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

We're experiencing issues with the infoboxes...--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 11:45, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Missing
Mangetsu Hōzuki is missing from the info box. Zelwolf (talk) 20:06, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf
 * Refer to warning in the main page of the wiki. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:42, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Original Swords?
When they say hiramekarei is the only one that kirigakure has that is the original out of the seven swords, does that mean that the swords we saw during Edo Tensei weren't the original swords, or just that Kirigakure didn't have any except the hiramekarei? What I mean is, were the original swords the samehada, nuibari, etc, or were the original swords lost and replaced with those?--64.126.41.224 (talk) 05:09, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

It means what it says, the former, Kiri has only that glasses dude's fish chakra hammer sword. EDIT: not to mention the fact that the swords were stated to have been passed down from generation to generation should alone have answered your question and this is a more appropriate place to ask in the future, here--Elveonora (talk) 12:28, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Trivia
Who is this: "Two members of the Seven Swordsmen (three in the anime) managed to fake their own deaths or regain life later on, by the means of an accomplice." Pointed towards, and why? --Kasan94 (talk) 17:54, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Zabuza faked his death with Haku's help, Kisame faked his death with Zetsu and Raiga regained his life thanks to Ranmaru. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:58, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ohh now I remember, I thought it was something further back in history :P my bad, thanks! --Kasan94 (talk) 18:03, September 25, 2013 (UTC)