Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-38643585-20190226232154/@comment-35409024-20190307005211

Whether he could beat the sannin or not means nothing, he could not beat Naruto with the help of Danzo even at this level. This is pointless to continue arguing, I said that he is definitely strong but I doubt the sannin were at their prime. Tsunade activated creations rebirth in a fight against Kabuto and Orochimaru, who from your description pale in comparison. Also if Jiraiya believed that he such a strong foe he would have summoned Ma and Pa to beat him just like he did against pain, they may have been at their peak but it seems they did not fight at their full strength; this may be from ignorance because of their age but they were not at their full strength all the same. They were also at war so there are a lot of factors in this, so with this I am leaving with my money on team seven. When did I ever say Naruto can't beat them? You don't even know what the debate was over. You literally stated Kakashi could solo them both. Kakashi wouldn't even last against Hanzo in his prime alone. If you notice I kept explicitly mentioning Kakashi, so obviously this was about Kakashi. Also you saying the Sannin don't go full out. How do you know? The fight was never shown in the Manga. Only the ending when Hanzo allowed them to live. You're overreaching to downplay a character Jiraiya literally states how he found it inconceivable anyone can beat Hanzo alone. Of course he was thinking about the Hanzo that beat him at the time as shown when he goes into a flashback. If three S class shinobi with a Shinobi force can't do it, I doubt one s class Shinobi weaker than all three (except with dms), could last even a few minutes. You greatly downplay Hanzo just because you judge him based off his weakest. That's the equivalent to judging Naruto before he learned the Shadow Clone technique and saying that's how strong Naruto is, lol or judging Lee and Gai after their legs were injured and saying that's how strong they are at their prime, lol. Or to take it one step further, judging the first few generations of Kage we know nothing about and saying that's how strong they are in their prime from their very limited showing (which mean they can't use any jutsu). Your logic is flawed.