Talk:Six Paths Senjutsu

Naruto
There have been arguments if he still has it or not, but after watching The Last, it's more likely he doesn't. In the movie, he had to use Shadow Clones as trampolines to propel himself through the air, if he could fly, he would have done so. He doesn't fly anywhere in Gaiden either, he runs.--Elve Talk Page 09:27, July 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bump--Elve Talk Page 12:45, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * If he lost SPS we need some actual statment or confirmation that he lost it because unlike arm or eye this technique not so obvious thing(since it is turn off'ble), so until proven otherwise he has it. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 12:50, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cross-shaped pupils with no Sage Mode pigmentation (Gaiden, Boruto trailer)?--JOA2012:52, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yet all his Jesus powers like TSB, Flight and Healing/Reviving are gone and so is the marking on his back.--Elve Talk Page 12:54, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * TSBs can be lost, as we know. The problem is that Six Paths Sage Mode – Naruto's version of Six Paths Senjutsu – is the cross-shaped pupils with no pigmentation around the eyes, as hinted by the latest databook. Not the markings on his back (for all we know, it just means that one has all the tailed beasts' chakras).--JOA2012:58, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure how literary it's supposed to be taken, but in the opening of The Last, the back thingy appears on Hagoromo after he becomes Jinchuuriki, it wasn't there before (can be seen in manga too when he and Hamura are battling mom, no back thingy) so yes, it probably has to do with the Tailed Beasts, but in that case... since it's gone... does that mean Naruto no longer has their chakras? I mean, no other Tailed Beast besides Kurama has been seen inside of Naruto post chapter 699.--Elve Talk Page 13:06, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe. People talk of Naruto's Chakra Mode in Gaiden as a Kurama-only Six Paths Sage Mode.--JOA2013:14, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * He doesn't seem to have any of the Six Paths Senjutsu powers in that form though. That would suggest pretty much what most people think (but Seel disagrees with) that chakras of all 9 Tailed Beasts are needed for Six Paths Senjutsu.--Elve Talk Page 13:24, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * If that's really the case, then I'm almost positive that chakra doesn't just disappear for good, they resurface eventually unlike the TSB's. Either way, on both fronts, Naruto would still have SPSM.--Mina [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] talk 13:33, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * One reason Naruto didn't use Six Paths Sage Mode in the last may be the fact the anime had yet to reach that point.--JOA2013:56, July 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * They kept Sasuke's Rinnegan, Kakasi is Hokage etc. not to mention they showed Kaguya and stuff.--Elve Talk Page 14:00, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Right, forgot about that. But it's difficult to decide he lost SPST/M until he or someone else say it.--JOA2014:02, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

technique?
Did the databook really list this as one? Isn't Six Paths Senjutsu a brand of techniques, like Ninjutsu?--Elve Talk Page 00:13, July 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think the databook uses this term at all. Or at least, I can't remember... • Seelentau 愛 議 00:15, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Nagato and Hamura
The Jin no Sho article about the Chibaku Tensei states that it is "a sealing technique invoked by those who manipulate the Rikudo Senjutsu". This is the first sentence, only after that it differs between the normal CT and the SPCT. Based on this, Nagato and Hamura are able to use Rikudo Senjutsu. Could you guys edit the articles accordingly? :3 • Seelentau 愛 議 09:30, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not sure about Nagato since he hasn't shown any signs of the SPS use, although I'd agree with Hamura's use because of him being shown with the TSBs in the movie. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 11:51, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, this would complicate things. Aside from Nagato, Sasuke would also be a user. Is there no other way the text can be interpreted? Because that sounds like the biggest nonsense to come out of that book yet.--BeyondRed (talk) 12:00, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be the first mistake coming from that book... Also, to me it's more of two techniques sharing same pages, since both techniques and users are seperated with "/"(地爆天星/六道　地爆天星 and Nagato/Naruto, Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura). --JouXIII (talk) 12:33, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we had this topic before or something similar.--Elve Talk Page 12:35, May 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * No @Seelentau if i remember correctly FF-Suzaku translation this line was about Six Paths Chibaku Tensei - wich means, this particular jutsu is from SPS, if my memory is correct then Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is not Dojutsu but SPS justu. Rage gtx (talk) 12:49, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * I found it here:

"Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu. "Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them. - by FF-Suzaku from http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:150619  Rage gtx (talk) 12:52, May 10, 2016 (UTC)