Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28614651-20200422182101/@comment-39350828-20200519131629

LegionZero wrote: So instead of trying he waits for it to come flying at his face?

Wait wait wait... you say Naruto didnt dodge the beam, but moved in response to the charge

But now you are saying he doesnt know when the attack is coming, so he waited for the launch. Which means he had to have dodged the beam itself. Okay I said he didn't bail completely and instead focused on moving his head out of the way of where an attack with a small area of effect would go.

I'm just gonna sum up the rest:

you said he was surprised by a limbo clone which couldn't have happened if his sensory abilities let him know madara was about to use some jutsu. This doesn't make sense because even if he knew madara was going to do something he didn't know what madara was going to do which is why the limbo clone that he didn't know madara was going to use could've surprised him unlike when madara gathered chakra in his mouth as he was about to use sage art storm release light fang.

You said the art suggests that the launch swing and dodge happened in the same instant whereas I think they happen at slightly different times but in reality you think the dodge happened after the launch and I think it happened before the launch (or during the breaking of the staff).

You claimed the manga showed the staff was destroyed instantly because all we get to see is the broken staff but that's like saying that when madara on the second page is facing one direction and then is shown facing another direction that it happened instantly because we never saw a panel between with motion lines showing he took time to turn his head. If there's no panels to show something took time that doesn't mean you can assume it's instant because if it did then almost everything that happens between panels is instant. Every rock that was shown intact and then shattered without being shown in the process of being shattered was shattered instantly because there's no panel showing that it took time.