Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26388300-20160524034125/@comment-27924662-20160524182909

XShadyShadow wrote: @Namikazenaruto9 In order for Minato to teleport he needs to tag something or it has to have his FTG Kunai within' it's radius. Madara would notice his kunai and I don't see him tagging Madara, but even if he did manage to catch Madara offguard with FTG it wouldn't work because Madara blocked Raikage's attack. And aren't Minato and Raikage (Ay) around the same speed? Madara would just dodge his attack. Or Madara could just block it with Susano'o but then that's it for Minato. Susano'o completely shuts him out, Madara's Susano'o ribcage tanked Naruto's Odama Rasengan. Only thing Minato could do is teleport/run in a fight against Madara. well I meant the conclusion of fight will be similar to tobirama vs izuna. madara (without Susanoo) will be gutted just like izuna unless he starts fight in Susanoo. Also in order to stop A too madara used Susanoo. what I do agree here is that if madra uses Susanoo(especially PS)from start he is sure winner or else he would lose(especially if he gets marked). XShadyShadow wrote: Also no, Kurama didn't enhance Perfect Susano'o. Infact, his Susano'o protected Kurama from the TBB. Even if we put it in your favor of Kurama enhancing Perfect Susano'o (Which is a certain stretch.) PS still tanked it, so if it didn't have Kurama's chakra (In which it didn't.) Then a TBB still wouldn't break it. It would damage it sure, but not break and I'm certain his PS slashes can just cancel it out with it's own power and Madara can dish out more PS slashes than Kurama can spam TBB. I am pretty much sure what madara did to kurama with his Susanoo is similar to what Naruto and sasuke usually do (especially in their combined attack against obito, momoshiki etc).The Susanoo which encases kurama during the fight was physical manifestation of both madara and kurama's chakra.the comparison of enhancement between that in 4th great ninja war (of all those fodder ninjas) and this combo is clearly logical.clearly the PS would be lot stronger than original.(which explains why it would tank TBB) XShadyShadow wrote: Wood golem+Wood dragon isn't enough for PS. Madara's PS handled both WITHOUT his swords. That fight wasn't fully shown but Hashirama was tired afterwards so you can't say for certain. Anyways that's pointless. Hashirama >>>>> Minato so you're not saying/proving much by saying that. to be honest in SM hashirama 's wood dragon+wood golem combo clearly made madara's Susanoo lose 2 of his 4 swords as well as managed to stop those mountain destroying blows from that sword several times. hashirama was never shown to be tired infact he was worried about those 4 tailed beast bombs which were going to be released and he tried to intervene but he was forced to fight by madara instead. hashirama>minato is true but in TBM minato is close to hashirama in power level(though he would still lose obviously).

XShadyShadow wrote: Minato's sage mode is trash, Naruto's is better and Madara easily kicked him over. If Minato enters sage mode absolutely NOTHING is happening, especially when it pales in comparison to Hashirama's. Madara would laugh and call it child play. Onslaught? The only onslaught would be Madara's PS completely destroying Minato and forcing him to run/teleport away. This isn't even close, the only chance Minato has is tagging him. That's it and even that is unlikely. He doesn't have the necessary destructive feats to deal with Madara's Susano'o and he'd tire out waaay before Madara, especially if he went sage mode unless this is Edo Minato, but throw in Edo Madara and it's a one sided rape. Minato would die 1,000 times over. Madara takes him low diff, maybe mid-diff. I agree that minato's sage mode is trash but if he enters sage mode in TBM it's a different story since even TBB would also be at whole different level plus all that speed boost due to TBM,SM and FTG would clearly tilt the fight in minato's favour since if now madara gets branded by FTG mark he will be mincemeat.so it will be a clear onslaught