Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35057921-20191015174126/@comment-43403813-20191017000814

I think you're both looking at speed feats in a different way.

FTG or not, speed in Naruto is deduced in how fast a certain character can execute something. It doesn't have to be just their speed in running or movement. Even if you need to use specific tools to achieve a high speed or other means of amping speed (an example being Nine Tails Chakra Mode), that is your speed in battle, regardless of whether it is inherently yours or not.

So Minato is definitively faster than Ay no doubt, because he can use the necessary tools to achieve that speed. And I'm not saying that without FTG Minato is slow, not at all, but the point remains that FTG shouldn't be discounted.