Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-734582-20170522205458

Amon000 wrote: Itachi is hokage level EMS Madara was already beyond that. He fought Hashirama as an equal. The worst damage we've seen Itachi do is a Magatama attack together with a Bijudama and a Rasenshuriken to destroy a Chibaku Tensei core.

Madara's Susanoo sword has more range and damage than itachi's strongest longest range attack.

Amon000 wrote: Also keep in mind that he was supposed to be the hokage and that orochimaru who is jiraiya equal could not defeated him. Pretty meaningless. Tsunade was also Hokage and their equal. We saw her have the strength to break a Susanoo, a feat other kage-level ninja like the Kazekage and Raikage couldn't do. That doesn't even compare remotely to Hashirama, yet he was also Hokage. Canonically the strongest Ninja, and Madara being the second. MS Itachi doesn't compare. He simply doesn't.

Amon000 wrote: Yeah you make a good point but dont forget what obito said to sasuke if itachi wanted him dead he would be dead by now. Itachi could've killed Sasuke a couple of dozen times, including the night he killed the rest of his clan, and the time Sasuke ran at him with Chidori in the hotel halls. If Itachi truly wanted Sasuke dead, he could've used any of a dozen opportunities to do so.

Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: well, for one, there is no way for itachi to know how strong jiraya was, so Ill give u that. but maybe that's why he didn't want to fight. for all we know, itachi probably didn't even have susanoo at the time, so he would get taken out jiraya in a fight way faster than usual. and he also didn't know bout kisame's fusion thingy, so there's that. Itachi had already used Tsukuyomi twice by then, and had already used a few tricks against Kakashi, guy and Kurenai. Starting a fight with a legendary shinobi isn't something you do after already having fought a few, you do it fresh with optimal odds of winning.