Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170128170340/@comment-30355627-20170203193944

UntappedRage wrote: Oh yes, he definitely accounted for Black Zetsu (whom Madara thought was his creation), whom had rewritten Hagoromo's tablet and already tricked Madara from the very start, would backstab him and resurrect Kaguya. Of course. Meanwhile Itachi was basically manipulated by Obito to slaughter his whole clan, who orchestrated the entire thing from the very beginning, who in turn was manipulated by Madara even while dead.

Also Madara let him stab his arm, so he could try and convince Sasuke to join him. Sage Mode Madara also caught Tobirama, twice. So no, there is no way EMS Sasuke was faster. Itachi wasnt manipulated by obito,sorry if i hurt you feelings but obito was tricked by itachi,but not just him kabuto too.