User talk:Seelentau

Wondering...
Don't want to sound rude or one-sided with this comment but.. umm... if you somehow blocked Sajuuk over his controversial comment, then who would be the forum operator? :/ ~• WS7125 [Mod] 00:27, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Sai
Can you please tell me sais rank in the last naruto the movie? Wongo2 (talk) 14:12, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, should there be an article for that ninja rank? but I guess we know too few about it right?Wongo2 (talk) 15:54, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant, yes. Thank you. I would like to open a thread about it. Feel free to come by later.Wongo2 (talk) 16:11, December 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Weil mich dieses thema interessiert und ich deine Meinung schätze.Wongo2 (talk) 16:24, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Yahiko and the Second Shinobi World War
At what age did Yahiko died? His article says 15, is that trustworthy? Also is it correct that Konan and Nagato died at the age of 35, after 16 years of the nine tails attack?

I'm conducting an investigation on the Second Shinobi World War, Ame Orphans and Sannins

I want to understand what are the main points are the fans arguing about. On Yahiko's talk page people are using Choji's estimate of 25 years, which is completely misleading.

ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 02:36, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Why is Choji's word more valuable than the Databook?

It is clear to me a human can make mistakes, and I believe Kishi fixed it, I find it very interesting, that Yahiko died at the age of 15 which makes sense now after this debacle?

Are Yahiko, Nagato and Konan the same age?

Also is Minato's age trustworthy?

Are all the ages put in the infobox of Naruto characters straight from Kishimoto's databook? They are extremely detailed.

ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 20:53, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Paper = Yang?
Okay, so apparently, Konan's paper techs are Yang release. Is that true? (Sorry to bother you yet again, it's understandable that you must have a lot to deal with...) ~• WS7125 [Mod] 19:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Apparently, Konan has Yang... Rachin123 made a consensus in the chat. He's made the edits and all... ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 20:12, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? So Paper is Yang and you agree (or you don't care)? Okay then. Though, I suggest you voice your opinion on this thread about techniques being Yin and Yang Release. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 20:18, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Heh. Just making sure. You did say "Do whatever you want." But okay then, I trust your word. So I take it Konan's ability is just her infusing chakra in paper. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 20:24, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, Tau, I want you to be aware of this: user Truthseeker149 went around adding Yang Release to all Medical Ninjutsu. We told her to stop on her talk page, and she might do so again. She said that you stated all Medical Ninjutsu is Yang in some forums. Please clarify things with her if she does so again. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 21:07, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * * Sigh* Magnet Release has brought nothing but trouble. Honestly though, where was Magnet confirmed to be an advanced nature again? I was told Blaze was never stated to be advanced, but what about Magnet? ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 21:48, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * No such thing as "advanced natures?" Okay. So Blaze was never called a nature transformation like Magnet was? But isn't Blaze Release also a kkg? ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 22:07, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Poke my mon
http://azzyfox.tumblr.com/post/105942086664/pokemons-ridiculous-timeline-explained-in-a 0_o Japanese people sure are crazy.--Elve Talk Page 21:42, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Thread:158770
Hello. Could you provide us with the literal translation of Minato's quote about his and A's families? Chapter 542, last page. Please put it on the thread. Thank you.--JOA2010:07, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Kakashi Hiden
I honestly didn't put that much thought into it. I probably should've just waited for the actual katakana reading. FF-Suzaku (talk) 00:01, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Frage
Hallo, könnten wir uns bitte kurz im chat treffen? Es geht um eine andere Person auf diesem Wiki. Wongo2 (talk) 14:21, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Pyramid quoting
Technically, we're supposed to hit a user with this (scroll down) on their talkpage to "remind" them about PQ'ing or any other offense. But I feel that templates are... "flashy," and look to be more of a warning than a reminder, making it a bit uninviting, so I choose to tell them nicely in the forums first, then "warn" them on their talkpage. :P ~• WS7125 [Mod] 18:47, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'll make sure it doesn't go off-topic. ;) And besides, when I edit a comment due to PQ'ing or anything else, I'd rather have them see the reason why I did so directly next to their comments I just edited, rather then tell them away from the forums. But it's not like you don't know what you're talking about, so I'll consider your idea. :) ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 19:02, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually... giving it some more thought... might be better to leave that in the forums. Here's why: When I put that reminder in the forums, it's visible to everyone and is more public, so not only will the user that I'm reminding take preventative measures, but everyone else viewing the forums will do so as well, rather than take it to someone's talkpage and taking it into smaller public view (I know that technically, people can still see it on a user's talkpage, but they're more likely to go in the forums than one random user's talkpage).And besides, it's just one message. Doesn't really make the thread "longer" so to speak, because everyone can see that one message and all... I usually close threads after 350 messages, so one can't hurt. ;) ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 09:12, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Databook names
Changed "Invasion of Pain" to "Pain's Assault" and "Invasion of Konoha" to "Konoha Crush" across the wiki. Trying to change wiki made terms to databook names. You wouldn't happen to have an issue with my mass editing of that, would you? ~• WS7125 [Mod] 02:03, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Seven Swordsmen
I find the Seven Swordsmen to be NOT user-friendly, when I first noticed the page I hated the fact I had to find out everything myself, since Kishis made 3 categories: 1)Previous, 2)Latest/Strongest, 3) Other members: Chujuro and Kisame. I was wondering if you think it is a good idea to create a table below the article where you can put the members in that way you can GET THE FULL PICTURE on which members are which and the swords they used. It is not a huge table since it will only be three categories. This in turn will classify which users are part which group and which sword they created thus becoming user-friendly and eye-catching. ZabuzaTheDemon (talk) 12:34, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Jo!
Frohes Neues! :)

Frage: Gibt's im Jin no Sho irgendwas zu den Samurai und deren Technik? Z.B., ob jeder Samurai die benutzen kann? Danke im Voraus! ;) Norleon (talk) 16:23, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Pls. Norleon (talk) 20:55, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request
Happy new year senpai. Hope that all your wishes come true :)

I have a translation request please, can you translate those brief summaries for the next anime episodes in this month? You can find them here. Thanks in advance :) — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 10:50, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Request
Hey Tau, I hope I'm not being intrusive, but I don't know where else to ask. I'd really appreciate it if you'd do a translation of the Water Release: Water Formation Pillar technique whenever you get a chance. Thanks. -- Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 17:43, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Yom. Hirasaka
If you could, I'd like you to direct me to the source of the translation. -- Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 17:34, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

As written on NarutoForums, THe technique is not specifically mentioned to be KKM.--Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 17:46, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what's so funny Tau, you post on their your own translations, no? Perhaps you can even do a quick translation of the page yourself just it confirm the information, couldn't you? -- Koto Talk Page-My Contributions 17:57, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

Susanoo
Quick question: Is this correct? Yes or no?  ~•WS7125 [Mod] 03:01, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Serious question
It seems DB3 and DB4 have retconned the Data book Mini and are not even accounting it at all. So should we even be using the DBMini's ages and info on this wiki and on the timelines anymore?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:50, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Idk.. maybe the ages from DBMini should be moved to the Trivia section?? and the other things you spoke of should be mentioned in the Trivia sections?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:00, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

DB3 and DB4 each say 2.5yrs and they have no mention of the DBMini ages at all. DB3 covers the entire first half of Shippuden including the beginning and there is still NO mention of DBMini ages. It is also larger and later, so now that I think about it DBMini looks to be retconned but I can't really think straight about that.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:07, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

So with the DBMini, even Shino is still 15 at his introduction in part 2. Without DBMini, only Shikamaru, Ino, Naruto and Hinata are 15 at introduction. My question is this, would you still consider the DBMini viable and usable in the wiki and in the timelines?? I personally am starting to think the DBMini has been basically ignored and retconned since studio pierrot and Kishi himself always called Naruto being 16 and not ever 15. But the only thing it really changes is the starting point of part 2, instead of being 10/10/15 at the earliest it becomes 4-7/31/16 at the earliest.. it isn't like it changes anything if we disregard it anyway.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:18, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Edit war
The standard genjutsu casted by the Sharingan evolves something called eye contact which cant be proven in the case of Shisui vs Ao's group. And there isn't a set definition for an edit war but protecting a page because of 1 edit i made after JOA doesn't justify it. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 15:19, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Sarutobii2 here. Protecting a page just to keep your edit in place is tool abuse. I will contact a sysop to remove the page protection you wrongly applied, especially as the reason given is bullshit and invalid. You should try reading this. --Sajuuk Talk Page 16:21, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't protect the page to keep my edit in place, you should know me better than that. I removed it, though. Also, stop speaking to me like that. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:08, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

It was most definitely Shisui who casted it and if you think otherwise then you shouldn't even be allowed on this wiki, we just can't verify if he used Mangekyo or normal Sharingan to do it. Also don't talk to Seelentau like he's some kind of normal user/noob. He knows what's what. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:18, January 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Please take it up on the article's talk page rather than here on Seel's talkpage. But my point was it was either normal genjutsu or long range genjutsu sharingan. And saying its genjutsu sharingan because he had his sharingan activated isn't proof, as Shisui has his sharingan activated all the time, even in casual conversations with the 3rd. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:51, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Fourth databook Minor characters
Is there a place where i can see your translations for them? Munchvtec (talk) 15:21, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * oh okay. thanks anyway. Munchvtec (talk) 18:26, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * will you be doing them at some point? Munchvtec (talk) 22:03, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * I only want Mirru the female kiri shinobi to be done if you could. thanks a ton. Munchvtec (talk) 22:52, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks man :) Munchvtec (talk) 00:25, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Could you also translate Agara's profile? Munchvtec (talk) 13:03, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's all i needed thanks tau. Munchvtec (talk) 13:23, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Ōtsutsuki clan KKG
Okay, keeping it brief, is this correct? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:12, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Tailed Beast Powers
I remember reading somewhere on the wiki that Kishimoto said the jinchuriki retain the powers bestowed on them by their tailed beast should they hypothetically survive extraction, using Gaara's sand manipulation as an example. Do you happen to have a verification and/or citation for this? Arawn 999 (talk) 13:00, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * So other than that vague statement that doesn't reveal anything, there's no explanation as to why Gaara can still manipulate sand other than "It was his Mom all along"? Arawn 999 (talk) 13:36, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Timeline Error
Yo Seel, spotted an error in your timeline. You got at 20 bNB that Jiraiya meets the Ame Orphans and begins to train them. but down at 18 bNB, you've got Konan is born. You probably meant someone else and it's just a typo, but after seeing that douche give you crap over the timeline, figure you should have a chance to fix it before he ctually reads it and has another go at you. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 06:30, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Also might want to update Fukai's name to Blue B, wasn't that his canon name? --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 06:31, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, are you open to suggested events? I had my own rough timeline a while back, it's rubbish compared to yours, but with the dates you could frame a few events in the years following Naruto's birth. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 15:04, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't dream of editing your timeline myself, just wanted to know if you're open to suggestions if I find any events missing or can narrow down the date on one. Since the Jin timeline is pretty sparse and I'm sure you'll be transferring a load of events over from the old one, I'll leave it for now until I have a better idea. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 15:26, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Explosion Release natures
Would you happen to know where in the manga these elements were suggested to make this combined nature? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 18:21, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, that is understandable. I also went ahead and added Explosion Release to the Nature Transformation Diagram. Now we are down to Lightning + Fire and Lightning + Wind.
 * -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:02, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but WindStar told me that there was a source in the manga hinting at Explosion being made of Lightning. If there isn't, I'm going to put a "short" explaination in the ref for lightning on Explosion Release's page. And, not to sound rude, but you aren't too experienced with templates, hm?(Yep, copied that "hm?" from you =P)--JOA2019:51, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ for the basic natures in the Form:Kekkei Genkai. Couldn't agree more on the complexity of this wikia's syntax, jeez.--JOA2019:59, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * The "source" I am referring to is the chapter where Sasuke's Lightning diffused Deidara's clay. When did that event happen, and in what chapter and on what page?
 * -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 20:02, January 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ for the Kekkei Genkai part, too.(Feeling uber cool.)--JOA2020:15, January 16, 2015 (UTC)

Interview Translation?
Hello Seel- how are you? Anyways, I found a video of Kishi's interview with Kobayashi, and during the interview, they showed a big spread of what looks like how Kishimoto broke down the story by each volume. The reason I post this is because it also has information about Volume 72. I know there is a lot of confusion about if the contents of Volume 72 should be included in the Kaguya Otsutsuki Strikes Arc, and so I wonder if this may provide an answer. Here is the link to the video:. Go to the 9:13 mark to see the layout chart. Thanks! :D--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 16:22, January 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Shame it couldn't have been more useful... thanks anyways! :D--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:28, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Kegon's Name
Hmm... I don't mind doing it, but I'm back in collage and just finished my first week (So tired...T _ T), and I already have homework to worry about over this weekend. It may take a while, considering I don't what exactly we're supposed to be looking for. The Anime Profiles provide a lot of information about the characters, designs, and it recaps the arcs.-- Ninja Sheik  19:35, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto Sage Mode discussion
GodlyHades1 (talk) 00:53, January 18, 2015 (UTC)The sad part is, my facts from the manga/data-book prove otherwise. Nothing states that Naruto uses the combined chakra of all tailed beasts to form the Rikudou cloak. Nothing. If something of that importane was needed, don't you think Kishimoto would have stated this somwewhere?

I would just like a correct edit on the wiki to say just "Hagoromo's" chakra.

Since we can't prove he uses all 9 tailed beast to form it, but we can prove MORE points on why he doesn't. Not to mention it looks more on the side of KyuubiChakraMode.

So the best case scenerio would be Kyuubi chakra + Sage powerup. But even that is an assumption U_U

Is there...
... really any reason why you are waving your sysop flag around as though it is a status symbol that entitles you to do whatever you want? I am referring to this edit. Please note that a wiki is a community effort, sysops don't get to make unilateral decisions just before they're sysops: they are not editor tools, please stop using them as though they are. I'm not really in the mood for reminding users multiple times about how to use their flags properly, so don't make me complain to Dantman about it. --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:48, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * "There's an explanation right in that sentence as to why I do that."
 * Not a valid reason.
 * "Furthermore, please don't write to me again. Ever. I don't want to put up with your 'problems', so if you ever got one, pelase refer to another sysop or go to Dantman. There's no common ground for us to ever talk to another."
 * Read Talkpage policy. You may not put up notices, nor tell users, not to message you on a talkpage. So I will be disregarding this request in full, per policy.
 * "Oh and you're not really in the position to remind someone who worked for seven years as a Sysop, how he has to behave. I'm very well aware of what my job is and what isn't."
 * If you apparently know about being sysop, why am I having to remind you about how to behave?
 * Please grow up and act mature, unless you wish to have a consensus against your rights. --Sajuuk Talk Page 18:13, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * The last sentence may be interesting for this discussion. Djfghdfe53475zdhdf (talk) 18:18, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * *Chuckles Darkly*--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 18:21, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Jin no Sho English
Has the release date been announced? Assuming there's gonna be any.--Elve Talk Page 18:31, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

I thought we are all living in Amerika :O About time I start learning German, I guess.--Elve Talk Page 18:52, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Was going by...
Early stuff in the Fourth Databook. Has Nagato's entry been fully translated?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:03, January 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * When I added it, it seemed like it was canon and real from the Databook since people were talking about it in the big thread on Narutoforums. But Nagato's entry still hasn't been fully translated...--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:18, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Scuffle in the Forum
After reviewing your post and several other people's posts I have come to the conclusion that, while very forceful and very heavy handed, nothing you said was "trolling" of any sort. SuperSajuuk calling you out was not justified in that regard and while your response was justified I must say it would be wise to not respond to dickery with more dickery. I did take note that you've stated that people have been dicks to you in the past but I have no intention of hunting such posts down to verify this so to make my life easier, if someone attacks you again, please let me know when and where. Also, I would suggest under no circumstances should you engage in him directly any further. Anything you do is seen as an "abuse of sysop rights" which further keeps this feud going. Going forward, if SuperSajuuk sees fit to comment on what you have done/did do/whatever, let another sysop know so that an 3rd party can sort it out themselves to resolve. Thank you.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:28, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * /sigh Very well. I cannot force you to not engage him, just like I can't force him to not engage you. I can only hope both of you use cooler heads. I'll either handle this or die trying.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 17:14, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Can you tell me that the founder of this narutopedia? Sasuke79 (talk) 16:28, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Explosion & Earth
Now that Explosion was logically deduced to be Earth + Lightning, would that not make the "Earth Release" infobox inclusion in techniques like these redundant and therefore removable? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 21:19, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Use of "cannot edit own talk page" blocks
Please read Thread:160630. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 23:46, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

I suppose
That if true, it would have been added, but doesn't Jin no Sho or The Last book by any chance mention Kitsuchi and Deidara's relationship to Onoki? Is Kitsuchi Onoki's son and was Deidara blood related to him or at least his student? Thanks.--Elve Talk Page 20:57, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's disappointing, very so. Just outta curiosity, is this all the relevant stuff excluding the interview and road to ninja stuff? thanks.--Elve  Talk Page 21:14, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Screw that source anyway, it's not readable.--Elve Talk Page 21:38, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

You and SuperSajuuk
Seelentau, when dealing with SuperSajuuk you don't need to escalate things, even if you feel baited into it you don't need to get hostile and [ add in insults].

Staff wanted both of you to cool off and focus on moderating the other users.

I suggest treating him like you should treat a troll in a public forum, someone better ignored than fed, being antagonized into responding in a hostile manor just drags you into their pace.

When people are a problem like you believe SuperSajuuk is, generally it's better to let them find the noose on their own instead of being seen handing it to them and prodding them saying "use it, use it, I dare –".

Also for [ closing runaway speculative discussions], if you can, try digging up old discussions where TheUltimate3 or I closed a debate (try filtering our contributions pages to mainspace talk and looking at some of the old character article ones). We've had to close off discussions before. And I guess he sort of asked, but usually it can be done without mentioning things like being a sysop. You seem to have explaining logic/reasoning mostly down, another thing that can help is directly talking about things from the wiki's perspective, like how the wiki treats references and sources.

~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 07:41, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Fusion Technique
Is this not a fusion technique? If not, can you explain the concept to me please? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 22:23, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Kaguya advanced natures
Shouldn't she listed a user anyway since the TBs can use Lava, Boil, Magnet and Madara used Storm as TT jinch too?--Elve Talk Page 00:27, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Kekkei Mora ^_ And I guess yes, it would be kinda speculative to say Storm came from TB, as unlikely as it is for Madara to have had Storm Release as his kekkei genkai inherited from his mother lets say. Kaguya is kinda different case, the TBs chakras was originally her chakra. And Madara is a strong indication (the Storm) that TT jinch can access natures of the TBs sealed inside TT. Not to mention Kaguya ain't jinch, she is kinda the TT and TBs' chakras are hers as stated, so.--Elve Talk Page 00:43, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * But the Kaguya we saw in war was reconstructed from the "changed parts" so even if she didn't have those natures prior to split, she should after merger.--Elve Talk Page 12:33, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone needs approval to use their very own chakra?... She was in control, we saw what happens when she isn't, rabbit monster blob.--Elve Talk Page 16:44, January 26, 2015 (UTC)