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Need a translation please
Hi, Shonensuki-san. I'm in need of your awesome and famous Japanese translating skills. Manga 540, what exactly did Ao say about Itachi's genjutsu? I'd be really grateful. Btw I really appreciate your work on the databooks, must not have been easy.
 * —ShounenSuki (talk 11:56, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so very much. I hope it won't be too much trouble if I were to come again for your help. FlyingRaijin (talk) 14:12, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hello again Shonensuki-san can you please translate where Itachi talks about Madara gaining new light in chap 386. Please? FlyingRaijin (talk) 13:49, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * —ShounenSuki (talk 17:05, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

So is the "characteristic doujutsu" Rinnegan ? --Elveonora (talk) 20:34, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * The 'characteristic dōjutsu' could be anything: the Rinnegan, the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan itself, or a whole new technique entirely. I still think it referred to the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan itself. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:41, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

He already mentioned it gives eternal light, thus it's a new technique or Rinnegan.

"An eternal Mangekyō Sharingan! It is said that by finding a new host, the eyes of his younger brother obtained eternal light… And not only that, but a change occurred as well. A new, characteristic dōjutsu was born in those eyes. However, the exchange of eyes could only be done within the clan. Besides, using this method didn't mean just anybody could obtain new power. This became clear from the history of abundant sacrifices that came after later" So trading MS eyes = EMS But for some reason, trading eyes did not ever give a new power. The part about "sacrifices", so they got EMS but not the new power and sacrificies were made to get it.

This sounds like Uchiha killed Senju to get Rinnegan to me (sorry if it's speculative) but the way it's worded. --Elveonora (talk) 21:03, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * He could be saying the 'characteristic dōjutsu' bit to either emphasise or to distinguish the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan from the normal Mangekyō Sharingan. The sacrifices bit is quite clearly about the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan —it's about how you have to take a fellow Uchiha's eyes to gain it, as no sacrifices are needed for the Rinnegan— so the 'characteristic dōjutsu' bit most likely is too. If it wasn't about that, either Itachi would have made it clearer, or Sasuke would have wondered what it was about. There is no foreshadowing here, really. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:41, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

"A new, characteristic dōjutsu was born in those eyes. However, the exchange of eyes could only be done within the clan. Besides, using this method didn't mean just anybody could obtain new power. This became clear from the history of abundant sacrifices that came after later" He says that trading eyes did not always give new power. He is talking already about brothers taking Mangekyou Sharingan eyes to get Eternal. Not killing close ones to get Mangekyou, that's the point ; ) --Elveonora (talk) 21:48, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you once again. I think he's talking about the EMS' new design when he said a new characteristic dojutsu, that must have been the 'change' that occured, it's a characteristic dojutsu because no two EMS users could have the same EMS design. The sacrifiices part most likely means that not everybody gained new light, that is, not everyone could escape blindness through this method. If he was referring to gaining some new ability then it wouldn't be a sacrifice, would you consider it a sacrifice gaining freedom from blindness but not getting a new jutsu? It'll be more of a sacrifice if you took your clansmen eyes but still remained blind.
 * Anyways, its just my opinion.
 * This has nothing to do with the wikia but could you please tell me the Japanese of
 * Sage Technique Combination Barrier Ninjutsu: Red Sensory Electrifying Barrier
 * Lightning Sage
 * Barrier Unlocking Key Technique
 * Genjutsu Seal
 * Lightning Release: Electrifying Beat(as in beat of a drum)
 * Water Release: Three Headed Roaring Lion
 * Sage Technique: Inescapable Hair Bind
 * Cloaking Barrier Technique
 * Sage Technique: Lord of the Clouds
 * Demonic Illusion: Enslaving Feathers
 * Drum Sealing Method.
 * Clone Merging Technique
 * FlyingRaijin (talk) 22:30, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

So either Uchiha killed close ones to get MS and took eyes of their relative to get EMS in hope of getting this new power, or those that obtained an Eternal Mangekyou had to carry out some unknown sacrifice. --Elveonora (talk) 22:23, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * The part "not only that" says that there's more than giving it eternal light so there would be no reason to refer to the same thing twice.
 * From the exchange of Mangekyou Sharingan, it's possible but not given to obtain the new power.
 * The last part states that the sacrifices were made specifically to get the new power.


 * The sacrifices made for obtaining the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan are those whose eyes are taken and those who failed to obtain it. You shouldn't be thinking all too deeply about it. If there was any foreshadowing in this scene, it would have been far more obvious, like it was when Itachi told Sasuke about the third Mangekyō Sharingan wielder. —ShounenSuki (talk 09:28, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

If you say so sensei, thank you. I still think there's more to it though, we are talking about Kishi here ; ) The way it's worded, that's it ... Though it's worder like those already with EMS tried to gain new power somehow :/ Also "the third Mangekyou Sharingan wielder" is also questionable as Tobi has not shown any yet and with Madara dead. Hard to tell if Itachi was lying (as Kabuto said), was also deceived by Tobi, or he was not speaking literary.
 * If there was no new power or something, he could just drop it rigt after mention of "eternal new light" and without "and not only that"
 * About the last part, maybe you are right that he is talking about sacrifices of Uchiha killing close ones and relatives ripping out eyes.

Also sorry for taking your time, but these mysteries around Uchiha and all are only thing that still interest me. The plot is getting kinda predictable, there are still unanswered questions from before though. --Elveonora (talk) 15:21, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks once again Shonensuki-san, could you please do one more: Yeah, I decided to go Kishi and use Sage Arts(the Japanese is Senpo right?) Instead of Sage Technique.
 * Sage Arts: Invisible Sensory Barrier Defence.

Btw I've noticed an interesting fact but it got shot down on the talk page. Remember when 30% of Itachi's chakra was put in a clone and made to fight Team Kakashi, in Chapter 260, the 'Itachi' placed Kakashi's clone under a genjutsu, next panel we see the clone in genjutsu and next panel it's grabbing 'Itachi' and holding him in place then Itachi says 'no wonder you're not affected by the genjutsu, this is a kage bushin' does that mean the clone was immune to genjutsu because it was a clone? Are clones immune to genjutsu?I sorta need a translation of what Itachi said Shonensuki-san.FlyingRaijin (talk) 23:15, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Its possible that Itachi is saying clones are immune right? The genjutsu has no effect, doesn't that mean genjutsu doesn't work? There's only one way to prove this; when Bee said perfect jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsu, was it the same Japanese words as Itachi's statement?FlyingRaijin (talk) 12:20, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Of course nobody is immune but there are certain people that can genjutsu of the highest class. Anyways, isn't it good enough to be mentioned in the Narutopedia's Shadow clone article? Btw Shonensuki-san, would you agree that nothing new comes from Kishimoto-sensei anymore? I mean Izanami has been predicted for about 3 years and he just does exactly that.FlyingRaijin (talk) 18:17, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

hey Shonensuki-san, please can you translate what A said about minato in 541? thanks--FlyingRaijin (talk) 19:26, April 7, 2012 (UTC) Thanks again. --FlyingRaijin (talk) 15:53, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Traitor Hyuga
In chapter 461, When Ao and Danzo are talking, Danzo mentions a traitor Hyuga and Byuakugan existing outside of Konoha, is this a mistranslation? TricksterKing (talk) 12:35, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, it did seem like useful trivia for Ao's page.--TricksterKing (talk) 12:53, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Sasuke able to use eight gates ?
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Eight_Gates#Sasuke what do you think ? --Elveonora (talk) 18:15, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Body Shedding
Could you please translate what both Sasuke (page 9, top right panel) and Itachi (page 16, middle right panel) say about this technique in Chapter 390, as well as giving your opinion on how it may potentially relate to the Body Replacement Technique? Blackstar1 (talk) 20:00, March 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, I'd suspected the same thing myself but it's nice to have some confirmation, now to decide how to most appropriately represent this in the article itself. Blackstar1 (talk) 20:58, March 31, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 580 Stuff
Not much this week… —ShounenSuki (talk 17:20, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Title:

What about the chapter cover page ? Is the text about being hated and loathed there ? thanks --Elveonora (talk) 17:23, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * The cover text says: —ShounenSuki (talk 17:34, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Possible foreshadowing of Kabuto's background ? Or no special meaning ? --Elveonora (talk) 17:45, April 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I doubt it's foreshadowing — we're rather familiar with Kabuto's background already. Besides, even if it was foreshadowing, we cannot really take it all that serious. We're not even sure who writes those blurbs. —ShounenSuki (talk 17:48, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

I see, thank you. --Elveonora (talk) 17:50, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Anything interesting in the promotional text which mentions April 28th? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:38, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

So does this weak's chapter proves that those "blurbs" are canonical ? --Elveonora (talk) 12:49, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Omnibender: Not really. It just says that the upcoming Jump NEXT! will feature a poster drawn by Kishimoto-sensei promoting the new film.
 * @Elveonora: It proves nothing, really. I don't remember ever seeing any of those blurbs being outright wrong, but that still doesn't change the fact that we haven't a clue who's writing them or how canonical they are. Even if Kishimoto-sensei himself is writing them, they still don't have to be canon, after all. They are, in the end, still removed from the tankōbon releases. —ShounenSuki (talk 13:04, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

So they are not necessary right or wrong, but their presence or lack of thereof makes no difference. --Elveonora (talk) 13:10, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sasuke's EMS
Could you update the svg for that one? All the times it was seen after the first time showed both eyes pointing down instead of up. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:46, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hello ShounenSuki,

could You be so kind and give me the kanji, roumaji and the translation for the phrases which Pain says in 329 at page 9? 93.211.52.72 (talk) 12:54, April 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * —ShounenSuki (talk 06:33, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Opening Theme
Hey Suki, can you translate the name of the new opening in episode 257. —White Flash 14:49, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * An article had just been made, do you know the lyrics? - White Flash - (Talk) - 02:21, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone already gotten the lyrics down :p; I do have another translation for you to correct. Does (ぐるぐる 丸) GuruGuru Maru mean "Circle Round and Round" in this opening? - White Flash - (Talk) - 05:02, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Please
shounen-kun please im so sorry but i have absolutley no idea how to do this. okay my cp crashed a few months ago and i just got it back up, well i was unaware with all the changes of the internet regarding naruto/bleach excertera, but no matter what site i go to i can't read manga online, the images for the pages won't come up. what site can i go to, to read manga online? again i'm very sorry for asking, but please if you can help please tell me.98.26.240.179 (talk) 02:43, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sage's inheritance
For quite some time I've needed this to be clarified. When you have the time, could you translate what Tobi says about the inheritances of his children in chapter 462.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:00, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanking you verily. We had life force and physical energy being the same thing =\ --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 00:07, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Congrats for the hard work!
Thanks for all the work you've done translating everything to do with Naruto and Shippuden! Without you, this wikia probably wouldn't exist. Keep it up! --Speysider (Talk Page) 21:09, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 581 Stuff
Yo —ShounenSuki (talk 00:11, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Title:
 * Do I really need to explain this one?
 * Do I really need to explain this one?

Probably not, but you could tell us what Itachi said about Izanami, please :3 Seelentau 愛議 16:52, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * —ShounenSuki (talk 17:47, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Could you translate the bit on the previous page, too? Seelentau 愛議 21:37, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Tenten & Bashosen
Hi! Could you translate what Tenten says in chapter 533 page 2? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:12, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

I guess this was you, so thanks. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 11:20, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Kabuto form
hey ShounenSuki, look i was thinking of something with kabuto form, i think that he has a "naga" like appereance normally, but when he activates sage mode his body become "human" again, losing his naga appereance, only having his snake tail atatched to his abdomen, so i ask if this true. Try cheking manga chapters 514 and 579-581 [sign your post]

His "Naga" form is something similar to this I assume, His actual body is what we see now, still humanoid just with scales and a snake coming from his navel (not ass as it was thought).--Elveonora (talk) 23:42, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

so lets say that, he has a human form, but after he uses his snake mode he turns into that naga form in the meantime

Hashirama and the Sage
Could you translate what Kabuto says about Hashirama and the Sage several chapter back? I didn't see it in your translation for that chapter. Thanks in advance! Skitts (talk) 02:58, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's in Chapter 575, page 3. Thanks. Skitts (talk) 06:56, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * —ShounenSuki (talk 07:21, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Benihisago
Hi again. If you have time, could you translate the right square of the bottom line of chapter 527 page 9? Samui is talking about the Benihisago. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 12:00, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. While on the subject, does she mention how long they will be sealed (same page)? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 12:19, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 12:29, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Timeline stuff
Hi. I need the references/chapters for the following happenings:


 * Canceling of the gruesome Kirigakure Genin trials
 * Foundation of the Akatsuki
 * The higher ups of Konoha ordering Itachi to kill his clan
 * Itachi's meeting with Madara/Tobi
 * Itachi joining the Akatsuki
 * Itachi killing Shisui, awakening his MS
 * Zabuza's attack on the Mizukage
 * Orochimaru's and Kimimaro's meeting
 * Orochimaru's and Zaku's meeting
 * Lee's and Guy's meeting
 * Foundation of Otogakure

I know this is a big request, but I hope you can help me. Probably I can create a proper timeline for this wiki, then. Also, you said that "There is actually quite some evidence pointing to there being a gap of about two years between Itachi joining Akatsuki and him massacring his clan.". Could you provide that evidence? I know the Itachi issue is bothering, but I still need some... proof. Seelentau 愛議 12:40, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I still want to find out as well.--Elveonora (talk) 14:02, April 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I cannot promise a lot, but here is a reference for the Kirigakure exams:
 * Chapter 14, page 7:
 * I also couldn't find any references for when Orochimaru met Zaku or Kimimaro. I'll check the rest later. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:20, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) Seelentau 愛議 09:55, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

--Elveonora (talk) 23:41, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * The blood exams were most likely cancelled with the death of Yagura and Mei as the new Mizukage
 * Adolescent Ame Orphans founded Akatsuki.
 * According to these "maths" it was when Itachi was 11 ... I guess he joined Akatsuki shortly after learning of Tobi and he has "killed" Shisui the same year.
 * Shortly after the unsuccessful assassination, he defected and met Haku
 * During the war of Kaguya against Kiri, unknown when.
 * It was not shown in manga, but Zaku died as a 14 years old ... try to guess from his appearance as a child in the anime.
 * Don't remember from manga, but in the anime it was during Lee's academy days.
 * "The Land of Sound (音の国, Oto no Kuni) is a neighbor country of the Land of Fire. It is a relatively new country in the political scene" thus most likely not that long ago.
 * I need translations and chapter references, Elveonora ^^ Seelentau 愛議 09:55, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

I finally checked the Kiri issue and well, I'm confused. Zabuza was born 26 years prior to series start and became Genin at the age of 9, correct? So he became Genin 17 years prior to series start. How can he have slaughtered the Genin 11 years prior to series start, then? He was 15 when that happened and not 9... Seelentau 愛議 21:14, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've always believed that his databook age was incorrect. Not only doesn't the age match up with the time line given in the manga, but I also remember Zabuza calling Kakashi something along the lines of 'old man' in the manga and Kakashi calling Zabuza 'brat', which would be ridiculous if they were the same age. I believe he should have been about 19 at the time of the first databook. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:06, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

I thought this myself. So should we update his age ?--Elveonora (talk) 22:12, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * So the mistake's in the Japanese version of databook 1, then? I thought it was some mistranslation... Seelentau 愛議 22:15, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I need some more references:
 * Dan's death
 * Sasori's and Nagato's parents' death
 * Nawaki's death
 * Chibi's death (lol)
 * Also I need to know about the aftermath of the destruction of the Kannabi bridge. Did the IIID NWW really end after that?

Could you help me out? I am aware that the information may be available on the different article's, but you're more trustworthy. Seelentau 愛議 21:32, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for again jumping into discussion, but what project is it for ?--Elveonora (talk) 21:48, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Over at the German Narutopedia, I'm working on a timeline every now and then. And it's almost complete, I just need references to make everything legit. There are a lot of events without refs so I asked Suki-senpai to help me. If I can complete the timeline, I will translate it to English and post it on a sub-page here. Maybe you can work with it, then. Or it's just some interesting trivia, like Omni-kun's element stuff. ;) Seelentau 愛議 22:38, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Shukaku Infobox
Hi. Currently, the Shukaku infobox lists this as one of the monikers: "The Incarnation of Sand (砂の化身, Suna no Keshin)". However, the English Dub calls it "The Manifestation of the Sand" (quoted from Gaara before he used Play Possum Jutsu). Which one would be better to use as a moniker ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 15:06, April 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Would it be ok to add the English TV to that moniker and leave it as The Incarnation of Sand for the translation ? --Speysider (Talk Page) 07:26, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Te-Translate favor reminder
Hi my friend. Have you finished the translating? so so sorry if i disturbing you. If you aren't free or busy, then no need only when you have time ^_^ hehe. THANKYOU Small brother (talk) 17:39, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reference: User talk:ShounenSuki/Archive 2012 Q1

Rock Lee Translation
Hi ShounenSuki! It's been a while! Well, can you translate what's written in image? Thanks in advance! —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 08:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Please, if you have the time, though, or the translation is correct? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 12:12, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah I see. Thank you! :D —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 01:28, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 582 Stuff
—ShounenSuki (talk 13:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Title:
 * Kabuto:
 * The middle two kanji, 機転, coincidentally also mean 'cleverness' and 'tact'.
 * The young woman that picks up and names Kabuto is called by the other woman, indicating they are based on Roman-Catholic nuns. The man dressed in the same way as them indicates they aren't normal nuns, though. In Japan, many orphanages are (or have been) run by the Catholic church, at least since the Meiji Restoration up to after WWII.
 * The young woman that picks up and names Kabuto is called by the other woman, indicating they are based on Roman-Catholic nuns. The man dressed in the same way as them indicates they aren't normal nuns, though. In Japan, many orphanages are (or have been) run by the Catholic church, at least since the Meiji Restoration up to after WWII.
 * The young woman that picks up and names Kabuto is called by the other woman, indicating they are based on Roman-Catholic nuns. The man dressed in the same way as them indicates they aren't normal nuns, though. In Japan, many orphanages are (or have been) run by the Catholic church, at least since the Meiji Restoration up to after WWII.

Thank you :) Why did you chose 'reincarnation' and not 'resurrection', as it was chosen here? And am I right with this? Seelentau 愛議 14:26, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

So Kabuto's techniques does not use chakra but Kabuto's life force ?--Elveonora (talk) 14:43, April 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * @Seelentau: I chose 'reincarnation' over 'resurrection', because nothing is being resurrected here. There is nothing that was once dead and is now brought back to life. However, you could interpret what happens as Kabuto 'reincarnating' a bit of himself into the lifeless object. In fact, to keep things consistent, I would suggest changing the translation of Edo Tensei to be in line with this technique.
 * As for the 'hyoko' part, I'm not entirely sure what to think of it. I doubt it's Urushi saying the woman's name, as he called her 'neechan' before, but on the other hand I doubt it's a simple sound effect as well, as it is quite clearly in a normal speech bubble and written in the standard speech font. You're right that it as a sound effect, it could mean 'peeking', though, so it would fit. It could also be that Urushi is commenting on Kabuto's unsteady state, as ヒョコヒョコ refers to being unsteady and he has to help Kabuto walk right afterwards.


 * @Elveonora: He just says 'life', actually, but I would assume he meant life force, yeah. Basically, he's 'reincarnating' a bit of his own life into the lifeless object, making it come to life itself. At least, that's what I got out of it. —ShounenSuki (talk 15:46, April 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * ah, I see. So, would you still label it as Ninjutsu? He's forming hand seals so there's at least a little bit of Chakra involved... Seelentau 愛議 16:32, April 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * One's Own Life Reincarnation involves life force and that is still ninjutsu. I'm sure you need chakra to actually remove the life from yourself and transfer it to the other (person/object). —ShounenSuki (talk 17:39, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

How can a stone live ? It has no brain 0_o--Elveonora (talk) 18:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Neither do jellyfish. Doesn't stop them from taking over the oceans. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:11, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

They do have nerves, Trees are alive but stones are not--Elveonora (talk) 22:46, April 15, 2012 (UTC)