User talk:SuperSajuuk

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Userpage abuse filter
Hello. I was trying to tag a userpage for deletion, but I couldn't. Came across this thread, and frankly, nothing has been done about it, as seen here. Any suggestions about this? 04:04, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Gud. Also, do you know what this is? Either I'm crazy or I am seeing colors... or both... and my preview and show changes button are just showing me blank spaces >_>  20:59, February 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Already did.  21:02, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

re: lol
Oooooh boy, wait until I chat with you about that. It was just... ugh. 20:34, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

re: P1 filler
Snapper Two. 17:49, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * If he didn't want me to change them, he would have told me, like he always does when I do something wrong. And shrugs, better to use names related to Kishi rather than wikimade names I guess, since you and I both know how anal users are about using "official names." And trust me, this is not the first time arc name changes don't make sense or are not that relevant to the events in said arc (For instance, look at this arc).
 * EDIT: Also, DuelMaster93 provided little to no source as well, and we just changed them anyway so... /shrugs. Hey man, I'm just trying to be consistent. 18:36, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Chat
Sure, where do I go for the chat? --SSJ2AJB (talk) 22:49, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Give me a moment, please. I'll be there shortly. 21:36, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Alternate
You know that Daniel Bailey is an alternate account for Paladin78, the latter of which has been blocked for 3 months. Telling him to stop will not work. 23:27, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see.  23:48, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

My Signature
Is this... → 01:44, March 7, 2015 (UTC) ...still too long?
 * You probably did this edit after seeing my signature for so long, huh? Didn't think I noticed "Moderator" being shortened to "Mod" in your signature just like mine?
 * 20:57, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed the colors were all of a sudden gone when I was editing your page...
 * 21:01, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

infinite
Okay, yes, I understand that she's ignored many, many warnings, but I was under the impression that users are infinitely blocked because of either: Yes, she gets into it with many users, myself included on many occasions, but I'm not certain she should get the punishment of a vandal or sockpuppet. 22:04, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Flat out vandalizing the wiki and clearly having no good-faith and all ill-intent.
 * 2) Or sockpuppetry.
 * how did i ever make a vandalism? how did i do wrong? i mean of course i'd been blocked sometimes, but is this because you noticed my today's edits? Kunoichi101 (talk) 23:03, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

syntax
Hello how is the text of the wiki different than of other wiki? (Arrancar Mario(Hollow Mario) (talk) 17:53, March 12, 2015 (UTC))

Poweruser
I was looking at the Special:ListUsers and I happened to notice that some users are part of the "poweruser" group. What is that, exactly? 06:01, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not surprised it's "just a name" as you say, but it's still nice to know that I, as a user, have "power," if you know what I mean... heh (jk). 14:57, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re: reporting bad edit
It was a format change. If you notice when someone makes a section the ( === title === ), what she was editing was the title being ( === title=== ). I'll notice there is no space between the "e" and the =. I'm not sure why there is a rule about not making edits that aren't reflected on the the page, but as a person who has had the misfortune of writing tech documents and other related code like things, format changes are sound.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 13:05, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Continue to report such edits I miss please.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 13:08, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then I would suggest rewording it somewhat. Certain syntax edits (such as the aforementioned title thing) may seem unnecessary to you, but to the obsessive compulsive and those who worry constantly about uniform syntax, it is a sound edit. This is one where I am in agreement with her but keep me posted. I would like to know if her edits the pattern of her edits.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 13:52, March 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * So instead you simmer for a while before going to sysops to get her banned. Good move.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 11:35, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Help
I can't post a discussion on the theories and speculation page the post bottom won't all to post need help in the meantime I'm going to keep trying. Guwop senju (talk) 18:26, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

hey
if your going to bitch about me to other users cause your mad at me then grow up and speak to me about your issue. Im open to changes if you don't like something im doing. Yes i do talk page maintenance but i do also edit main space a lot so don't say that i don't. Im not trying to be your enemy or anything. Id also like to know what you mean by me making "pointless tasks" because if your referring to the attack prevention talk page then im not even the one that made that convo. I was asked what my thoughts on it were by another user and so i gave my thoughts. If something makes you mad then talk about it and try to fix it instead of turning into a tau like figure and trying to force others to do what you want. BTW i edit at least 20 different wiki so i don't do it cause im bored lol. I do it cause it should be done. My talk page edits don't bother anyone, there selected as minor edits and they fix talk pages. You have even told me when snapper was deleting my talk page edits that he was in the wrong. But now that your mad at me you say i was in the wrong. MAKE UP YOUR MIND. Munchvtec (talk) 14:57, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

re: quest
I asked him to stop removing other peoples' comments. Is he still doing that? Because it looks like he's only formatting old discussions. ~SnapperTo 18:19, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * i am only formatting them. i don't really see the issue with that. They are all marked as minor edits as well. Munchvtec (talk) 18:21, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Happy St. Patrick's Day, and I hope that all the good luck comes to you :)--AlexHoskins (talk) 23:01, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Err...
Question: Can you tell me the difference between this edit and this one and why only one user gets reprimanded for such an edit?

EDIT: If such an edit is unnecessary, why is a sysop doing it then? 20:40, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I thought, it is indeed encouraging others to do the same edits. But I'll wait on you to ask him (after you're done, whenever that is).
 * EDIT: And yes, that was a long wall of text on my talkpage. Will deal with that later.
 * 20:46, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not the one that reprimanded a user for doing such an edit, so you asking him would make a lot more sense, whether that be tomorrow or next week. No pressure.
 * 20:49, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I don't think we should reprimand users for doing edits like this. Too many editors do it already. And I do understand why users perform specifically that edit, because it does look annoying when a user just randomly sticks a picture with a caption in a paragraph.
 * 21:57, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Colour
i'll stop for now. besides i was testing in case. Kunoichi101 (talk) 21:30, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

re: edit question
It's simply that whenever I edit, in the particular example you gave me, that's the most common way I see articles formatted as when I see them in source mode when editing, so whenever I see it without a space, I add it. Seeing those unmatched formats makes my inner consistency freak flare up. I usually do that sort of change along with other edits through articles, I've gotten some of those as edit conflicts as well, with the only difference between someone else restoring a better revision of the article and my edit being said space. Sorry for taking so long to answer. Between random lack of Internet and lots of personal real life crap, my wiki editing got pushed aside. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:10, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Thread:166023
Lol. Already removed it before you "stepped in." 22:57, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Get in chat ASAP
I'd like to talk to you in chat ASAP, Sajuuk. BeelzebubX (talk) 11:57, March 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not kidding, Sajuuk. Next time we meet in chat, you better not bolt it. BeelzebubX (talk) 14:09, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

???
You tell me that we just don't close threads the minute they get an answer. And then you do the same. 16:40, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Should have specified that in the reasoning the thread was closed, rather than "Question answered." Just saying.
 * 17:16, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * You could have said "use the talkpage?" But I can't blame you for being in a rush. And April Fools. 17:20, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry...
I have been here since 2007, but I haven't used the forums at all until recently. I stuck strictly to the wiki itself and didn't use the forums at all.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 21:46, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re: forum posts
Its something I do time to time on other sites like reddit as well. My reasons for doing it here is because I feel like my posts have very little weight in steering a convo in one way or another so I eventually purge them as they wouldn't be missed anyway. I see myself as a insignificant part of the userbase here so I erase myself from the forums every once in a while.Umishiru (talk) 20:04, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Videos
No worries! I didn't see any policy on videos under the Local Policies so I just added it to that episode page. Thanks for letting me know :) Grace (profile)•(talk) 22:16, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE:edit
No one reverted the symbolism so I thought it was okay. My apologies. Will cease immediately.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 05:53, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

re: chat
Sorry, but it is way too late for me right now and I'm about to turn in. Will try and chat with you later in the day. 06:10, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

Don't know who to ask
But is there a way to change my name? I have had ItachiWasAHero for years, I'm simply tired of it now. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:59, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^^I got this, Sajuuk. 02:04, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

re: Forum issues
We do need to address some issues in the forums, but why in the chat, secluded from everyone? I'd rather have us create a thread, and hear the opinions of others, too. We've done that in the past. 19:04, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * A massive pissing fight wouldn't happen though, considering we are the ones that would be moderating the thread. Public Wiki decisions should be made on the public wiki, no? And what if the community does not like the hypothetical decision we would make in the chat? 19:10, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * KK, I'll join the chat (really not like this though...). 19:18, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Two-Man Team
Was my trivia edit on that page okay or I wouldn't do that either? It's the second trivia point. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Two-Man_Team Cloudtheavenger (talk) 20:14, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

re: posts
You're the one who brought up sysops, not me.

Once again, the issue I am making is not with you, hence my, "I don't care about you." The issue I am making is with the proposal, hence my, "I care about the proposal." User rights are currently set up so that only a sysop can grant a moderator flag. Until such time that the flag becomes actually viral, it shouldn't be treated like it is.

So again: "Modify the proposal so that only the wiki's decision matters and then I can shutup." ~SnapperTo 22:54, April 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, you wrongly assumed that the promotions would be discussed in private and that sysops would not be involved. That was not the intention. Like I explained to you later (which you conveniently chose to completely ignore) in the thread, the intention was to talk with the candidates about their high support, then me and WindStar would form the list of users who had accepted and then pass the list to a sysop for them to grant the rights.
 * But there's no need for you and WindStar to approve/vet/confer the candidates. You made the thread, that's all that's needed. The wiki can after that come to its own conclusion and a sysop can grant the flags accordingly. The middlemen are superfluous.
 * But instead, you were more interested about persistently whining in the thread and ignoring repeated requests to use my talkpage. I'll be later removing those posts so people are not distracted or intimidated by the pointless side chatter that wasn't necessary, which you could have avoided if you actually used my talkpage in the first place.
 * For the last time, the issue is the proposal.  NOT YOU.  Discussions about the proposal belong on the proposal's page, not the proposer's. ~SnapperTo 23:22, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Edit
I think you missed my message I left on your wall. It's regardling anime/manga difference in trivia sections of episodes.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 05:03, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Editing practices
well, since you told every sysop to make a close eye on me, then i'm okay with it. i'll just do what i was told if it makes you happy. Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:20, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * then give me one example on how to contribute more major edits for this community. Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:48, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * you just tell someone to block me forever and who knows if they want to or not. so fine be that way. Kunoichi101 (talk) 21:40, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * i may be a nuisance for making all minor edits, but you've gone too far, asking any sysop to block me forever. if you want me to stop, then i'll stop. i'll just let it be. Kunoichi101 (talk) 07:44, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * i asked wind star and rachin for some tips of editing from the chat room and wind star suggested me to watch and learn from the veterans including YOU doing some editing. Kunoichi101 (talk) 07:47, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * since when it was valid to block me? Kunoichi101 (talk) 07:49, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * i just got back from 2 weeks. if you want me stop, then fine, i won't do anything. if i want to or not. besides i just need to watch and learn from you doing something editing skills wind star suggested me to unless you don't agree that is. Kunoichi101 (talk) 07:54, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

About the anime
I hoped that the way Obito betrayed Madara would soon become a reality in the anime. Happy editing!--AlexHoskins (talk) 15:59, April 14, 2015 (UTC)AlexHoskins

Serious Question
What exactly is a pointless edit?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:03, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm actually more upset with myself that I didn't clarify. What is a pointless edit that she had done. Details. What made it pointless. Bonus points for actually linking one of these things in history. We've been over this before where a pointless edit to you was pretty awesome to me.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 18:35, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have. Nothing I see I would consider "pointless" hence why I wanted to know what exactly is so poison to you.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 18:45, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Climbing Silver trivia
You removed my edit to the "Climbing Silver" episode page, stating your reason as my edit being "unneeded." The trivia explains what Climbing Silver is when the episode itself already explains this, so in front of the current "Climbing Silver is a move in the Japanese board game shogi," I added "As is explained in the episode," because if the page is going to explain what Climbing Silver is, I believe it should be noted that the episode explains this.

In fact, if my edit is unneeded, then this piece of trivia is altogether unneeded. It would be like having the trivia section of the page for the episode that introduces the Sharingan explain what the Sharingan is when the episode already explains that: totally unnecessary.

If stating the obvious is unneeded, then the fact that the trivia itself is stating the obvious should clearly make that piece of trivia unneeded as well. Thus, I motion that the piece of trivia on that page be removed entirely, or you allow my edit to remain, because allowing one "unneeded" piece of trivia and not another is hypocritical and illogical. --EBsessed (talk) 18:23, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Why didn't you respond on your own talk page so both your and my messages would be in the same, easy-to-find location...? Coming to my page seems bizarre considering that nobody reading your page will see your answer, and nobody reading my page will see my original question to you in the first place to warrant this response. It seems to make sense to simply respond on the page where the question was asked.
 * So by that logic, I can go ahead and remove the trivia piece in question because I consider it as pointless as you consider my edit to it. Perhaps I'll do that.
 * What I'm saying is that the trivia IS redundant and pointless, because the episode itself explains what Climbing Silver is, rendering the trivia about it totally useless. You're saying my edit to it was pointless, and my counterpoint is that the triva piece itself is in and of itself pointless, which means if my edit should be removed, then so should the trivia piece along with it. Can you justify having the trivia on that page explain what something is when that same episode explains it? Respond to my comparison about the Sharingan that I made, wherein I presented a hypothetical situation where there existed an edit to the page for episode the Sharingan was introduced in explaining what the Sharingan is, which would be completely pointless since the episode itself explains what the Sharingan is, rendering an explanation of the Sharingan on that episode's trivia page unnecessary. That's what this Climbing Silver trivia piece is. It's a pointless piece of trivia that explains something the episode already explains on its own. EBsessed (talk) 22:21, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * Please explain how the Climbing Silver trivia is valid, and offer a legitimate counterpoint to my hypothetical scenario that you keep ignoring about having a piece of trivia explaining what the Sharingan is on the episode page for the episode that already explains it within the episode itself. How is it valid or necessary to have trivia on an episode's page explaining something that is explained in the very episode the page is dedicated to? You removed my edit for "redundancy" when that piece of trivia itself is redundant. So please, justify the validity of that piece of trivia and why it should stay.
 * Furthermore, you specifically told me, "So if you don't want your edits to be removed, don't submit them to the wiki," which entails that any edit can be removed for any reason at all. In fact, that statement implies that nobody should edit anything because it will probably be removed, which discourages contribution. You removed my edit because you thought it was redundant, and yet you re-added the trivia I removed because I thought it was redundant. You can't eat your cake and have it, too, and by telling me I can't remove trivia I consider redundant but you can remove trivia you consider redundant is hypocritical, especially since you told me that everyone (including me) has the right to remove anything added to the wiki. EBsessed (talk) 19:53, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * How can you call a hypothetical scenario identical to the one we're dealing with "irrelevant?" It seems to me you just say whatever you want to say to end a debate, regardless of whether it's accurate or not, playing the unfair parental "because I said so" card rather than answering legitimate questions about your decisions. My hypothetical scenario was perfectly relevant, and it seems to me like you just don't want to acknowledge it. And frankly, I'm surprised to find that you would consider two paragraphs a "massive wall of text." Perhaps you don't read many books, but a couple of paragraphs is far from overkill. I think the fact that you consider my messages cumbersome and/or enormous says more about your impatience and stubbornness than it says anything negative about me or the strength of my argument. I type as much as necessary to make my point as thoroughly and clearly as possible, especially when the person I'm trying to get my point across to seems to either be not understanding what I'm saying or unwilling to respond in a fair, constructive fashion.
 * Thank you for finally explaining and justifying your reason for removing my edit. That's literally all I was asking for, and this entire, unnecessarily drawn-out debate could've been very easily avoided had you simply answered my original message that way rather than as difficult and uncooperative as you were when you first responded. I was not being a "keyboard warrior" as you so condescendingly put it, I was simply trying to get you to answer my very simple question of "Why?" and to get you to provide your justification for removing my edit but leaving the trivia piece. Now that you've finally offered the response I was asking for from the beginning, this debate can rest. I don't agree with your reasons, and thus I'll now be able to take this to the episode's talk page, but at least you finally provided your reasons like I wanted.
 * Once again, I'm sorry that you consider a few paragraphs a "wall of text," but regardless, I was not typing any more than I felt necessary to get you to answer my question, and the more you resisted, the more you were forcing me to exhaust every possible angle I could explain myself from in order to try to elicit a legitimate response from you. I take debate seriously, and when my questions aren't being answered, I'm forced to assume my opponent is not understanding what I'm asking and I will find varying ways to phrase my questions in an effort to have them answered, thus inevitably elongating my responses. I was not typing more for the sake of more just to try to sway you, my hand was forced to further press and explain and elaborate by your unwillingness to simply answer my question. Ironically enough, I wasn't even trying to get you to change anything or "win an argument" or make you "cave to a request" except for my request for justification of the action. I wanted you to justify and explain why you removed my edit, which you deemed "unneeded," and left the trivia itself, which I deemed unneeded. That's why I was debating on your talk page and not on the episode's talk page, because I was trying to understand why specifically you removed my edit.
 * Now that this exhaustive debate has reached a resolution, I thank you for finally answering the question I was trying to get answered. I'll move the debate about the trivia piece to the corresponding talk page now that I understand your particular reasons for doing what you did. That was all I wanted here. EBsessed (talk) 21:20, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Sorry about not responding in the chat earlier. Didn't even realize I still had the window open.--NeedleJizo (talk) 11:00, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ignoring those long walls of text (I mean, talk about analism >_> <_<), still need to ask you something. 19:56, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriously, can't he use article talkpages? 20:17, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * In there for a short while. 13:54, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah. 17:39, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

Flag?
Though the promotions have finally taken place, why exactly don't I see the flags on the new mod's userpages? 20:05, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism
I understand, it will not happen again, sorry. --Sasuke 79 (talk) 12:56, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, it will not happen again.--Minato 87 (talk) 12:54, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^ ? Did you warn him (the second user) of vandalism on his talkpage? I'm not seeing there... Strange... He's apologizing like you told him... did you? 22:01, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bump. 19:52, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Refs
Hey SuperSajuuk, im familiar with always using manga refs instead of anime ones but since i changed the wording to something that was also correct and only revealed in the anime, a manga ref would be abit unnecessary, yes/no? And why would cerez rollback my original edit, its abit obvious i didn't vandalise the article, unlike what that Toviek user is doing atm. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 13:11, April 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, will do that for next time thanks. --Kris.gilson.12 (talk) 08:36, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Serbian Narutopedia
Add to linguistic items Serbian Narutopedia.--Sasuke 79 (talk) 16:28, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Get in the chat room.
I have some private words for you only. QuakingStar (talk) 20:34, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

re: Rollback
It was accidental.--JOA20 09:31, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Userpage
I would if I could. But apparently my right to do so was revoked by Dantman back in 2008, when I was new to the wiki.--Jizo 悟 11:38, April 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Will do. And the link has been fixed. :)--Jizo 悟 (talk) 12:01, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Heh...
Well, as expected, the activity has increased and users are coming out of nowhere again... 19:52, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Yomotsu Hirasaka
Hiya,

I notice the reverted change on the page 'Yomotsu Hirasaka.' While 比 and 良 does literally mean 'comparing' and 'good' respectively when you separate them, 比良 is technically a single term and holds its own literal meaning ('cliff'/'slope.') The term sources from ancient Japanese (as well as Ainu) back in its Wa days, and the kanji given is rendered arbitrary with respect to its origin.

Unfortunately I cannot find an English explanation online, but these two pages do mention the derivation of the term: http://textream.yahoo.co.jp/message/1835208/ffckdc8la4n5af8bb/1/18155 http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~hi5k-stu/aynu/pira.htm

Regards --Utsune (talk) 14:58, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi again,
 * Thanks for the reply. I'm only a passer-by who happen to have an account, so I made the appropriate correction to the translation of a language with which I'm familiar. I am unbeknownst to the workings of the site (specifically that of your in-house translators and who they are,) so it would be great if you could pass the message to whomever it may concern for permission to edit.
 * Or, should the two links in my last comment serve as a valid source, I presume the edit can be admitted? --Utsune (talk) 17:30, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re: My Name
So is there any way I can do something that doesn't get stuck up your ass? I considered using your valued title would be far better than any of the amusing things I used to refer to you. But if your title is also taboo I will refrain from that as well.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:00, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I will ask, before doing anything exactly why the name "Spey" fills you with such woe? Isn't that what you came to the wiki as? Why does is that name such a problem that you would do the literally insta-ban method of manually going in and changing someone else's edits just to remove it?--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 15:03, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * You sure do push those forums like a meth dealer, don't ya. Because you are aware that the only things doable on the wiki are actually editing it, and playing in your playground. As such, there is no reason to not perma-ban her if your Pointless Edit point stands. Her 2 week ban will lift and she'll go right back to making edits, because she likes Naruto and wants to help the Wiki. But clearly she can't help the wiki enough so she must be cut off. For the good of the Watch.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 15:21, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * And for what reason are you arguing against me from just perma-banning her at the end of this "discussion"? Clearly everything she does is wrong so why bother trying to rehabilitate?--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 15:28, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Bypass
How was he able to bypass the script and make a comment, and I can't? It literally tells me: "This thread hasn't been commented on for over 74 days. There is no need to reply." 20:22, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Man, that's strange. I assume you added a new parameter to the template?  20:25, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Dumb question: how do you use the new template?
 * 20:31, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Right, got it. 20:37, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Edits
Okay.--SupperSasuke (talk) 13:47, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Can you join the chat room if you have time? I have something to discuss with. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 16:38, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Yo!
For some reasons, I am not allowed to comment on this thread anymore. Do you have an idea why that might be? Norleon (talk) 14:15, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly that's happening. Strangely, it only happens in that thread. Norleon (talk) 14:35, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Didn't work. There's a guy in that thread who asked me something. Now I'm doomed to watch him from the distance with the answer stuck in my head forever. :( Norleon (talk) 14:42, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * I was just trying to send him the link on his talkpage but that attempt was blocked due to some spam filter or whatever. Guess it can't be helped then. Norleon (talk) 14:45, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Serious Question
When you said I seem to like to go around adding inaccurate information what were you referring to? If it was cause of me taking out the "In the anime" it's because the manga heavily implied it so to me I didn't feel like it was needed until Snapper told me it need to be directly stated otherwise it's anime-exclusive material.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 19:57, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Like I said to him I follow a 3 edit policy. If by my second revert (third edit) I can't convince them I take it to the talk page. But he did convince me so it ends here.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 20:33, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

What is this?
??? A link to Reddit and other social media outlets on the Recent Wiki Activity feed? 20:41, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

How's it been?
Thank you, and I hope you have been doing well here in my absence --Hisana456 (talk) 05:55, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Umm what did i do wrong? About the editing i mean?BoltUzumakiXD (talk) 13:05, April 30, 2015 (UTC) edited by BoltUzumakiXD on april 30,2015

Oh, sorry. I guess i just got clumsy with the editing but i swear i didnt mean to do that. BoltUzumakiXD (talk) 13:30, April 30, 2015 (UTC)added by BoltUzumakiXD on april 30, 2015

Re: Sensing Water Sphere
No, it just stems from logical thinking. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:14, April 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just letting you know that you're not above community decisions. The next time such a situation arises, please wait for the discussion to come to an end before acting in any way. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:43, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

re: movals
Yep, of course. Your playground rules. 16:55, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah, they pretty much are. :P If people don't follow or listen to your playground rules, they get in trouble, no? Whether it be a sysop or a regular user. 16:58, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * And honestly, the constant uploading of images for use in the forums has just gotten annoying. >_> 17:04, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * And honestly, it's like "dude, read the ****ing policy!" >_> <_< It's in bold, red letters, do not upload images solely for use in the forums! Is that so hard to understand?
 * I think a possible solution would be to put up a notice (similar to the one that appears when a thread isn't commented on for over 30 days) that emphasizes reading the forum policy and specifically says "Do not upload images for use here" or so. But that's just me, not sure if that's a good idea. 17:15, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm? Such as? 17:19, May 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * And there has to be some way of getting editors to stop changing UK English to US English. That gets tedious, too. 19:23, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Kunoichi101
Hey since you've been keeping close watch on this person can you tell me what does? They did it on a page I edited and it didn't seem to do anything so I reverted it and they just added it again. Also, if you're not a rollback so need to give a reason for reverts right? You need to click on this message's edit box to see what I put in between what and doesCloudtheavenger (talk) 03:54, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

re: discussion
KK. But my connection is utter crap right now, so we'll chat a bit later in the day. 14:45, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * ;) Likely 8:30-9:00 BST or so, as long as something random doesn't pop up in my day. 14:51, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

DP Script
Is it possible for a script to be created to prevent DP'ing? Getting rather annoyed from endlessly telling users not to. 03:08, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * SuperSajuuk, please do not double/triple post. If your comment is the latest one, remember to click the edit button on it and add to it rather than make consecutive comments within short periods of time without waiting for others to respond. :P --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:44, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope you get the script up and running since so many users dp and its pretty frustrating ಠ_ಠ --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:54, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Does what UltimateSupreme added work? 13:56, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * K. Though I wanna see it to believe it, if you know what I mean... ;)
 * 14:04, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hehehe... too late :3. But what if some hours pass after making the latest comment and some one wants to simply bump the thread? Will the notice still get in the way?  14:12, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * How long do you think "some time" should be before the notice nullifies? 2, 3, 4 hours? Or more? 14:19, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thats too short time for bumping a thread. Setting it to 3 days.--~Ultimate Supreme  14:31, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, okay then. I just figured out that one can remove their reply and reload the page if they want to make a comment within the time period without double posting (and thereby bypassing the notice), so that's okay. 14:36, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, reloading the page with the dead thread and stopping the reload at the right time can bypass the lock forums script (I tested it, that's how I know). So 1 day or 3? I think one day would be good enough. For instance, what if someone wants to update us on something (like a translation or news), 3 days would be quite a while to wait if that person does not know about removing the reply and reloading. 14:47, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, then please tell UltimateSupreme to set the limit to one day instead of 3 with the reasoning I provided (if he hasn't seen this already). 14:53, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ya, but in most cases the editor won't work too then.
 * In that case its best they edit their older post.
 * Added a check.--~Ultimate Supreme  14:56, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright then, 3 days. Many thanks for the help. :) 14:59, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks UltimateSupreme! 3 days is probably good enough for now at least, if it becomes a problem, then we can either lower or extend as needed. --Sajuuk talk 15:01, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, how about that notice that tells users to read the forum policy before contributing and not to upload images to the forums? 16:05, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * It can also direct users to the requests page as well. ;) 16:10, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Also, please add the image one too, since it tends to be a big issue (which is why I guess it's bolded and in red font in the forum policy...) 16:20, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I will import it, but just because a user is linked to the forum policy does not guarantee that they'll click on the link to forum policy and read it. We still have the "Before posting, please ensure your reply complies with our Forum policies and the Wikia TOU. Posts in violation will be edited or removed" notice there, correct?
 * Yet users still double post and upload images and the like. I just want the image rule to be there, and to point out that links to the image (that aren't to illegal sites) should be used, so 3 rules of thumb are on the notice, that's all. 16:26, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Wouldn't reducing the text to add the third rule about images not make the box to large? I think that would be a good idea. 16:30, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Lol, every edit I see you make to your wikia.js I'm thinking "Grrr! Where's the image rule?" All jokes aside, I'm having some trouble importing the code, though.
 * 16:38, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, not seeing it. Probably did something wrong. And I think "Do not upload images for sole use in these forums" would work more than "Please note that the wiki's general policies apply at all times, such as the Image policy." Like I said, users are not likely to click on links... 16:45, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like this to me. And I wanted it to be in threads. For instance, remember when UltimateSupreme put up the notice to the requests page in the threads? For example, like this notice in the thread. And I still prefer "Do not upload images for sole use in these forums" over "Failure to heed any of our policies will result in warnings and blocks if repeatedly violated" as the latter can just be told on a person's talkpage in the form of multiple warnings (and is already in the forum policy, and not red and bolded like the image one...) ;P 17:00, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Still want the image one there, though. :X 17:06, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * The forum policies/FAQ button doesn't work. It doesn't link to the forum policy yet for me. 17:22, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

The button now gives me this, unless you will somehow put the entire forum policy in the box that appears. 17:51, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Button works. Looks like this now, though. "Manage Boards" button kinda in the way. 18:20, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * It was working just fine before you did this. Now it's messed up again. 19:05, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Envy me. 05:02, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Sorry about that. I was wondering is there an easy way for me to find specific words on a forum or how do I find specific discussions within a forum or I just gotta do it the old fashioned way?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 16:20, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

re: quests notice
I saw in the preview that I could simply move the (and some other things around) every time I archive (In fact, I used to do that all the time when I archived my talkpage, back when I had the dōjutsu on it and all, due to the archive list moving things around). It wouldn't be the first time I saw a broken layout, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem. If it is (probably will be), then I'll consider shrinking it. Thanks for the heads up, though. 10:11, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hey
I know that we got off to a bad start before, and I'm really sorry about it. Hear me out. Is this anime series going to be a spin-off?--AlexHoskins (talk) 19:40, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re:question
Okay, thanks for the tip. Anywho, I'm very sorry about what happened before.--AlexHoskins (talk) 19:48, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Block notices
Look useful, I have to remember that one. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:00, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. :) 23:56, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Thanks!
No need to thank me. I'm just doing my Forumkage duties. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 09:18, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

-_-
This and this image uploaded just recently are the exact reasons why I want this notice here in the threads. Why is it a bad idea? 18:46, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, so you just need to ask UltimateSupreme. The code is the last function in my wikia.js (haha, role reversal there). And yes, I did notice the archived boards. 20:22, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, how about the archiving on the requests page? That too. 23:41, May 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * So instead of my requests page, it's gonna link to the forum requests section on the sysops page?
 * ಠ_ಠ
 * That didn't work out so well (like, at all) last time, and I know you become irate when sysops answer to forum related requests.
 * In reference to archiving, I was not referring to putting a tool exclusive to talkpages on a subpage. I was referring to you "poking" UltimateSupreme to make the archive list on the requests page not look like this. 20:08, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'm gonna go out and say it: It's definitely gonna go wrong at some point. Something's gotta change, otherwise I'm gonna get into it with Snapper, which I don't want, on the requests. That didn't go so well last time. And all I can imagine is a boxing match between you and all comers. But... very well. We'll see for now. 20:21, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, all threads that are closed should automatically go in an archive board, correct? 20:47, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

re: Signatures
Thanks for the help on my signature, but how do I stop substituting my signature? I'm kinda new to the custom signature thing. -- ☆ AllstarUchiha ☆  Konoha’s Allstar  08:57, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Urgh...
Double posting again? 19:06, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Jesus, man. It seems simply refreshing the page gets around all of the scripts placed in the forums that prevent users from doing certain actions that violate the forum policy (bumping dead threads, dp'ing now, etc). 19:17, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * "Unless they're stopping the page from loading at just the right moment"
 * Yeah, that's what I meant. Stopping the page from fully reloading does indeed interrupt scripts, I've tried it before. 19:23, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then we're gonna start slapping people with warning templates then. 19:36, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Edit
Why did you change my edits to the team rosters in Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution? I found this team and added it, having it removed by you 4 seconds after. Please explain why.Piço grande (talk) 20:32, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to interject here, Sajuuk, he/she cannot reference team rosters for Revolution unless they reference the game themselves. To my knowledge, no official source even lists the teams we have listed. You just have to play the game to figure them out and then add them to the page. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 20:35, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't you ask someone you know to research the teams, please? Also remove the one called «Past Friends», the real one is called «Torn Friendship». And add the links to the original characters please, I don't know how to do that. Please read this and perform these edits. Piço grande (talk) 20:55, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright then I'll try to follow these rules in the future. I'm sorry, it's just that I'm not good at editing. I'll try to follow these rules if I edit any pages in the future. Piço grande (talk) 21:06, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Userpages
My point is I deleted the section that was breaking policy, but it came back when WindStar reverted that edit. The only thing I have now is two quotes and a picture and if that's still breaking the policy then there's a lot more userpages that need attention. Because I've seen a lot of userpages that just had quotes or a picture. -- ☆ AllstarUchiha ☆  Konoha’s Allstar  20:46, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine delete it or whatever, but @WindStar says he "doesn't want to explain himself twice", when you didn't explain it that good. You went on about my userpage is not for saying how big of a Naruto fan you are which what my "About Me" section said so that led me to believe that was the problem. I'm not stupid where I need to be told things twice, if it's explained well. -- ☆ AllstarUchiha ☆  Konoha’s Allstar [[Image:Mangekyō_Sharingan_Sasuke.svg|0x30px]] 20:54, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ugh...
Considering how our infoboxes are a total mess already, wouldn't that just cause the mobile to just explode?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:52, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * NO! The mobile site looks so horrible now!--Mina [[Image:Uzushiogakure Symbol.svg|20px]] talk 20:24, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re:wat?
I started approx. 2 years ago. It's one of my subjects of study at university.^^ Norleon (talk) 18:21, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, no no! I am still a bloody beginner, so let's keep relying on the two more experienced translators instead. :D Norleon (talk) 18:26, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we will see. Hopefully, I will get better after moving to Japan at the end of the year. :) Norleon (talk) 18:29, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
If you have time, can you join the chat? :)--Mina talk  21:23, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Subs
Hi! I was just wondering if Crunchyroll is the official sub for Naruto. I took out that piece of trivia earlier because the anime is translated by lots of subbing groups, and as such, subs like the one you posted, would differ in those different translations. :) Freedom Wall (talk) 08:00, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

re: untrue
To quote myself: "the original reason the sections were left blank is because nobody actually wanted to write the summaries. Over time, people mistook that to mean that there weren't supposed to be any summaries at all." "It's also in direct contradiction to the wiki's goal of documenting the series by, like, not documenting it."

You'll also find the most recent filler arc has not been excised from articles. ~SnapperTo 23:12, May 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * To quote myself again: "It's lazy, for starters; nobody wants to actually do the work to make the article shorter, so they just cut stuff out unilaterally so they can feel like they're making a difference."
 * If you're concerned about article sizes/over-detail, I'd encourage you to find a solution that does not objectively make articles less informative. ~SnapperTo 18:04, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm quoting myself because a) you are asking my reasons, and b) I have previously given my reasons. My reasons have not changed between then and now, so I freely recycle them.
 * I don't disagree that mentioning ten second appearances is unnecessary, but it's a precedent the wiki has been following for both manga and anime material for several years. Mentioning a ten second appearance is also not going to have much of an impact on article size one way or the other. As a final point, the Path articles do not have size issues, so your solution is not strictly necessary there.
 * But it is lazy. Naruto's article has serious size issues and the main culprit is the summary of his actions from chapter ~550 onwards. If you or someone else were to put the time into making those sections shorter then that would make a substantially greater impact than is made by indiscriminately removing content from certain media.
 * And as I said in one of the quotes, removing anime stuff does not accomplish the wiki's goals of documenting the series. I believe you've previously expressed the sentiment that the wiki should not exclusively cater to the manga and databook crowd, yet doing this basically caters to the manga and databook crowd.
 * ~SnapperTo 18:30, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * not everyone (correction: hardly anyone) seems to share your sentiment
 * As I recall, people prefer my solution to tabs. That's about as far as the consensus ever got.
 * your revert was also untrue, since loads of other articles are the same
 * And loads of others articles are not the same. Your revert also, to me, seemed more a result of User:Paladin78 being the one making the edit than an actual objective to conform the articles to some unspecified standard.
 * You know I don't read the manga, so I can't trim that stuff until the anime reaches these points.
 * I do know that. I also know that the anime is up to chapter ~660, so there are at least portions of the article you could work on if you're so inclined.
 * Maybe, when the anime reaches these points, I may become able to trim the content.
 * Forgive me, but I don't know if I believe that. You tagged Long Time No See: Jiraiya Returns! in August and in the nine months since then you've only managed to change the template. I imagine you would have found the time by now if you wanted to.
 * Nobody else really bothers to trim content, since we all know you are the master of trimming content, so we just leave you to work on it.
 * Which is quite the problem. Everyone acknowledges something should be done but they expect somebody else to do the work.
 * But you seem more focused on trimming already short articles to make them even shorter
 * Extraordinarily, I do things other than contribute to this wiki. If I only have time to edit articles under x size, your preference would be that I not edit at all?
 * sometimes unnecessarily removing valid content.
 * Such as?
 * It's currently locked due to edit warring.
 * You'll be happy to know that Kakashi's article is long and is not protected. Thank you for volunteering.
 * I don't see why that should change simply on the basis that you don't agree.
 * So you feel that weird and misguided habits should be maintained in the interest of making the articles less informative/more manga-centric? Good to know.
 * You should form a consensus in the forums to get the opinions of the wiki as a whole. If the wiki doesn't agree, you can't then complain when people do the action you think is bad.
 * That works both ways. If the wiki has no opinion, you are in as much a position to complain about my restoration of content as I am to complain about your removal of it.
 * mass deleting pictures
 * I expect you would also find fault if the images were not deleted.
 * which are not a priority
 * What are the priorities then?
 * Consider the fact that maybe people think there is nothing to remove without removing valid content.
 * So you're acknowledging you're removing valid content. We've come so far!
 * ~SnapperTo 19:20, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Have I told you before you have a remarkable number of double standards? For example: you consider "Cleaning up articles" a priority, but one of your complaints is that I waste my time by cleaning up articles. So I think it would be in both of our interests if we ended the discussion because obviously we're not going to convince each other of anything.
 * Some of your criticisms seem directed at/founded on your not knowing much of my personal information. So I'll tell you a little bit about myself in case it makes our future interactions slightly easier. And I'm going to do line-references to your message, so excuse me for that:
 * my only source of income (something which you don't have) - That's not true; I also have a source of income. I also have a mortgage, if that matters.
 * I manage other wiki's, not just this one (something which you don't do, looking at your masthead) - One of the glories of the internet is that you can have more than one identity/account and nobody need ever know.
 * I play a lot of video games - I wish I could do more of that. I currently have 88 games in my backlog - because yes, I do keep a list. Number 86 on that list is Skyrim. (The list is ordered from games that require the least amount of time to "beat" to games that require the most amount of time to "beat".)
 * I have, so far, had little free time due to something called... *gasp* a degree - No way! Congratulations! I got my second one recently.
 * it takes you many hours just to make a small number of contributions - I don't type that quickly because I'm in that age group that's between typewriters and keyboards, so I never got much specific instruction in faster typography practices. I'm also somewhat of a stickler for grammar and what not. Also, sadly, rewriting articles requires more time than pressing a button. When you compound these points it takes me longer to do something than it would for others to do the same something. However, as we've previously established, nobody else is actually doing it, so the options are my slow progress or no progress whatsoever.
 * I hope you've learned something about me today because that's all I'm going to say about myself. ~SnapperTo 20:04, May 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm not of the opinion that my personal information should matter. I would rather my contributions and remarks be all that is known about me and people can form their opinions from those. You are free to disagree and desire more, but I won't be doing so. ~SnapperTo 20:30, May 24, 2015 (UTC)