Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-4704473-20140625072535/@comment-3568954-20140626123303

Elveonora wrote: sigh... I won't participate in this topic anymore, if it truly makes you unable to sleep at night, take it to talkpage.

Increasing volume of chakra doesn't change the chakra's properties, so unless there's another source of chakra in the universe besides Kaguya, there was nothing Hagoromo could upgrade his eyes with. What don't people get about the word progenitor?

it doesn't matter if it changes the chakra's properties it still makes that person more powerful. third raikage doesn't have tailed beast chakra but his chakra is as powerful as a tailed beasts chakra. so your point is invalid.

hagoromo ultimately has the same chakra his mother had just on a smaller scale. the same thing with hurama. the chakra's properties are determined by the body that houses said chakra hence the reason naruto's chakra properties changed when he kicked kurama's ass and took over his chakra. the chakra was now property of Naruto and as such its properties were superior and progenitor simply means a person or thing from which a person, animal, or plant is descended or originates; an ancestor or parent. that doesn't mean someone can not come along and surpass them. chakra is not finite there is a finite number of chakra in the world but each individual in the narutoverse has the ability to create more chakra. by either meditating or physically training. chakra did not exist until kaguya created it. she did so by eating the fruit and then using the god like natural energy to strengthen her body. from that moment on she was capable of molding her spiritual energy with her physical energy creating chakra.