Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-28861328-20140618060932/@comment-3568954-20140621104822

Deathmailrock wrote: Actionmanrandell wrote:

i did not even read everything you said but i got to say right off the bat you are wrong

chakra is and always will be the combination of Physical and Mental energies.(they never once have said otherwise not even in the last chapter) if it was not a combination of both energies then training the body alone would not increase your chakra you would need to train both your body and mind at the same time(as in moving meditation) where in it is obvious that you can increase in chakra by simply lifting weights doing push ups etc etc Or by simply meditating

the shinju was made of natural energy and natural energy alone. when kaguya ate the fruit she gained the god like natural energy she then molded her physical and mental energies together creating Chakra. her children received said chakra

Wrong, it said that Hagoromo gave everyone chakra and CONNECTED it.... they didn't create chakra.... people connected their spiritual and physical energy with chakra

Read EVERYTHING I wrote. People connected the energy called chakra with their physical & spiritual energies. Since their chakra is now connected with their energies, then increasing their spirit or physical energy should increase their energy.

It should be noted that there is physical chakra & spiritual chakra....

Now, while people in the Naruto-verse claimed in the beginning that chakra was a mix of spiritual & physical energy, their energies were always mixed with chakra, so if their 2 energies were always mixed with chakra, they wouldn't realize that they didn't have pure spirit or physical energy.

It never said that the Shinju was a force of Natural energy, just that it was the source of all chakra and that it was like Nature......

The people in the Naruto-verse's physical energy is considered a chakra as well as their spirit energy.

The sage himself said that he intened to use chakra to connect everyone's spirit energy, but then they instead connected it to their spirit & physical energies.

They amplified their chakra with their physical & spiritual energies, so increasing one's spirit or physical energy increases one's chakra.

Nothing i said is wrong in fact everything you said is wrong. you clearly have no reading comprehension

it has always been that Chakra is the combination of spiritual and physical energy ALWAYS it never will change. you can have your opinion all you want but that doesn't change the fact your opinions are not backed up by the facts of the manga. and yes the shinju is natural energy they specifically say that. Kurama says to Naruto you can not sense it using emotion sensing because its a force of nature its made up of Natural energy thats why only senjutsu effects the shinju Black Zetsu literally says that Kaguya is the source of all chakra. Kaguya not the shinju. the juubi is a combination of the shinju's natural energy and kaguya's chakra. the tailed beasts are made up of said chakra(kaguya's chakra) Kaguya took her Spiritual and physical energies and molded them together creating chakra because she had the shinju's natural energy it became incredibly powerful chakra. there is no ifs ands or buts about it. that is a fact.