Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-44455926-20191119200613/@comment-33286580-20191124191053

First of all, all Naruto needs to do to win is use Rasenshuriken.

the Pein Arc SM Naruto not only threw the Rasenshuriken, but he exapanded it. Also despite the distance between him and Pein he caught one Pein in it. if not for the Summons disrupting the Rasenshuriken he would have hit all Pein with the circular expansion. now, the point is, despite their distance, the Pein bodies could not completely dodge the attack and had to use to summons to destroy it. Jiraiya is no speedster and neither is he going to sacrifice a toad in his place so Naruto can easily get Jiraiya with a Rasenshuriken. once it hits it is over.

following on after Pein Arc, it took speed of Raikage to dodge it and later Naruto can even control it on his whims. SO Jiraiya simply has no counter to it.

Also it takes barely a second for Naruto to form it unlike Jiraiya's strongest jutsu.

Jiraiya's greatest option against Naruto is the Frog Genjutsu. true. the problem though is that it takes a lot of time for Ma and Pa to build up the Chakra and be in sync to perform. Jiraiya had to hide for them to successfuly use it.

Now, you saw what happened when MA and Pa tried to use it against Pein in Naruto vs Pein. Pein just attacked them so easily.

Also here Jiraiya cannot hide from Naruto because of his sensory abilities and he can also sense the CHakra buildup. and seeing this is a bloodlust fight Naruto would simply kill one or both of the toads, just like Pein did. so the idea that it can even be pulled off is a joke.

even if it does. Kurama can snap Naruto off it.

now, saying we should not factor in Kurama, who is a part of Naruto, opens the floodgate for Naruto to also sync with Ma and Pa. so he too has access to all skills that Jiraiya does in SM.

the Toad Stomach Jutsu can easily be reaped apart by Rasenshuriken or a SM Odama Rasengan i should say.

So yes Naruto wins 9/10 for me. the 1 win for Jiraiya is for his sheer battle experience and that too only against the pre war arc Naruto