Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180607192958/@comment-26107879-20180827062707

Lol. The points behind Nagato are just tom-foolery. Nothing addresses how Nagato wins. They just say he does this and that and don't explain how such a thing even hits one of the fastest people in the series. Nagato doesn't counter anything Minato does. He can't push and pull him since he can teleport. He can't suck his soul out cause he can't touch him. He can't seal him cause he teleports. Animals don't do anything since they're too slow to do anything. His mecha abilities again, aren't useful if they can't hit. Naraka and Human aren't anything to be used against Minato and are only support for the other peins. And Preta Path can only be used on itself and again, too slow to do anything. Naruto vs Pein showed that all of them minus the Preta Path when Nagato is only focused on it alone, are around the speed of Naruto in Sage Mode. Minato wins.

Also. Minato did not lose the initial confrontation against Ay and Bee, do you guys even read the Manga? How is scarring Ay for life to the point he thinks you're the best in the world and cannot be surpassed, mean Ay won? Or scaring Bee shitless? The entire time Minato was pretty calm and chill. He literally just kept smiling. He won the initial confrontation if anything. Just because Konoha signaled for their entire fleet to retreat doesn't mean Minato lost his fight. The fact is, the brothers were unable to do anything other than look in awe and sweat.