Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25516007-20141008201906/@comment-3568954-20141103155449

DazzlingEmerald wrote: lol so your judging these guys off their stats? So itachi, orochimaru, and jiraiya were all stronger than hiruzen? The god of all shinobi? I know he's in his old age, but no. To rely on stats is the silliest thing ever. You don't even do that in sports.

kishimoto used Stats as away to measure the power of a shinobi. also no where in the databooks does it say that these stats are the shinobi's base level statistics with out power ups. also no that doesn't they are stronger than hiruzen because no databooks give him any stats. and this is different than sports the stats in naruto show how much ninjutsu knowledge one has how much genjutsu knowledge how strong how fast how skilled they are in taijutsu how much stamina how good they are in hand seals. etc etc. You can say they are not a determining factor in how powerful a shinobi is but thats wrong because in no way can you say that if a shinobi has a databook stat listing for say strength that is 5 and another character has a strength stat of say 3. you can not say the one with a 3 is stronger than the one with 5 it would be a fact that the one with 5 is stronger

also itachi would never catch hashirama in tsukoyomi