Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-34194151-20180922234729

@LoneNinja

1. That is not true. We literally see nagato standing in one spot. He didn't move an inch. He is clearly watching the smoke screen from a distance. There is no reason why he can't see the blade coming out of the smoke, when he has seen attacks coming out of smoke before and reacted just fine. I don't know what else to tell you.

2. lol no. kakashi clearly felt out of place in the kaguya fight, chapter 686 pg 7. He couldn't compete with a fight among god tiers and he felt depressed, yet he isn't dumber than kaguya. H Nothing says he was outclassed because of intellect. Being outclassed in one thing doesn't mean everything, that is a fallacy. Just to show that flaw in logic, that same orochimaru who is supposedly outclasses kakashi in every single way (he doesn't, but let's say he does), admitted inferiority to itachi. Itachi >oro> kakashi, yet kakashi fought itachi. Clearly this logic doesn't work. Kakashi doesn't have a way of killing orochimaru, while he can theorectically kill itachi if he lands an attack, that is the clear difference. Itachi also had a harder time putting down kakashi compared to orochimaru. Kakashi actually has better genjutsu resistance than orochimaru due to his sharingan, as his skill with sharingan allowed him to even resist tsukyomi a little, whereas orochimaru can't achieve that same feat because he lacks a sharingan. So this also proves this fallacy that anything kakashi can do orochimaru does it better wrong.

3) There is much to reply to. Like obito being so afraid of itachi he never used kamui in front of him despite it being his favorite ability. In obito's own words, he would have been dead if he didn't hide kamui from itachi. In obito's own words, itachi was a thorn in his side. Lmao, think about that for a second. Obito's "fail-safe" was not using his best and favorite ability in front of him. All Seel's verification does is prove itachi's tactics even more. Obito who had no trouble using kamui in front other high level ninja felt the need to hide that information from itachi. Obito was never shown or stated to have hid kamui from konan.  I already proved itachi could have taken out obito 1v1 even with the tactics he showed in part one.  Instead of addressing his tactics, like how  he can spawn exploding clones behind his opponent out of nowhere after distracting them with other techniques and then swap places with them, you instead focused on degrading kakashi, as if that somehow changes itachi's fast-paced, combo oriented, misdirection- fighting style. You also have ignored itachi's kotoamatsukami backup plan for who knows how long now, which proves he had a contingency in the event obito was able to evade amaterasu. I don't know what else to tell you, the facts are all there. Konan came closer to beating obito due to information, not due to superior tactics. Obito made it impossible for itachi to learn about kamui because they barely spent time together and obito hid it whenever he was around him apparently, where as konan could see him use it many times for years to the point she could actually pinpoint specific weaknesses like the 5 minute weakness. Obito isn't dumb, he knew itachi wasn't a friend and knew how dangerous itachi's mind was, while on the other hand he saw konan as a friend, and was in fact surprised she betrayed him. Obito clearly stated that itachi's amaterasu failed due to a lack of knowledge :" even itachi didn't know everything about me". In an actual battle, itachi could do what minato did and figure out that obito's weakness is in the moment of attack, and he can use a exploding clone feint to take him out.