Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-28861328-20140618060932/@comment-25077020-20140619071746

Deathmailrock wrote: 11zeeshha wrote: ElvinWindSword wrote: Ten Tailed Fox wrote: ElvinWindSword wrote: Ten Tailed Fox wrote: Everreddie wrote: Shouldn't Hamura be the ancestor of the Uzumaki clan? Since the Uzumaki clan are distant blood relatives of the Senju clan (like cousins), wouldn't it make sense for Hamura to be the ancestor of the Uzumaki clan?

No. That wouldn't even make them distant cousins. This doesn't work like actual family genetics, where your brother's descendants become your cousins. The Uzumaki are directly related to the Senju (meaning there was likely a fork-off in Asura's bloodline), making them Hagoromo's descendants.

Also, Hagoromo had the Uzumaki's trademark red hair and astonishing vitality.

But what if Hamura's descendants (if he had any) inter-bred with the Senju to create the Uzumaki?

When Naruto marries Hinata (if he ever does) then that will be the case. As of now, no. The Uzumaki are Hagoromo's descendants. These crazed theories need to stop. There is literal manga proof that the Uzumaki are Hagoromo's descendants, and, one could argue, as the earliest being (other than his mother), to have Byakugan, Hamura is that of the Hyuga's.

I am not disagreeing with you mate but I was just speculating to see what made the Uzumaki's different than the Senjus. But you are right there is no definite proof that the the Hyuga (Hamura's descendants) had children with the Senju to make Prehistoric Narutos (sorry couldn't help myself).

IF the some uzumakis DID marry descendants of hamura's then the uzumaki clan would STILL be descendants of hagoromo but with some hamura blood added. This DOES NOT make the uzumaki clan descendants of hamura all of a sudden and it never will. it's like if a black man from let's say kenya moves to japan and marries into a japanese clan (do they still have clans?). his descendants then continue to live in japan marrying japanese people (duh). the japanese clan doesn't all of a sudden become kenyans (LOL). they're still of japanese descent but with some among them having a black ancestor somewhere along the line. But there is no proof that the Uzumaki's have interbreed with Hamura's decent, so it's just speculation. I think 10tailed fox is just trying to make sure that the fan speculation isn't mixed with canon

Yes I know there isn't any proof. That's why I added the "if" in the very beginning. The point was merely to show that even if they did interbreed, it still wouldn't make them descendants of hamura.