Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200621203703/@comment-45444155-20200710094535

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

How is it different? What makes it different? Beats me. They just are. No specifics are ever given to explain why they are different or what it does different. Just that Naruto has it and Madara/Obito/Hagoromo dont

ReweR 1331 wrote:

The wiki says that sage transformation is just one way to enter sage mode. That is, in fact, Jugo also uses sage mode. I don't know why you come here when Naruto and Jugo have a difference in getting sage mode. Good on the wiki, but that is not stated/shown in the manga/databook.

The admins just put it there because the databook says it makes Juugo a sage. Not that he enters/activates Sage Mode.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

And I never found any information in the manga that 6 paths senjutsu should somehow differ from SPSM. The fact Naruto has SPSM and Madara/Obito/Hagoromo dont. As listed by the databook.

ReweR 1331 wrote:

SPSM allows you to use 6 paths senjutsu, as SM allows you to use senjutsu. Modes are like the basis from which you can use something else. It is like Sharingan and Izanagi, with Sharingan you can use Izanagi. Your statements sound like you can use Izanagi without Sharingan - use 6 paths senjutsu without SPSM / another mode which is 6 paths senjutsu. That's... silly... Wrong analogy. Its like the relationship between dojutsu and Sharingan. All Sharingan are dojutsu but not all dojutsu are Sharingan

All SPSM is SPS, but not all SPS is SPSM

SPS is a general term for Six Paths Chakra+Senjutsu. 6 Paths Sage Mode is a specific "form" of SPS

Kinda like how Senjutsu can refer to Hashirama's Sage Mode, Naruto's Sage Mode, Jiraiya's Sage Mode, Juugo's Sage Transformation, Orochimaru's Curse Mark transformations

Are you saying that we just don't know the Jinchuriki Ten-tails and Hagoromo modes? If so, I agree.

Since for me your statements sounded like SPSM Naruto and 6 paths senjutsu are not the same, but different techniques / methods, when for Naruto it's all the same.