Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-43776375-20200602082354

So you think they had less elite ninja than other clans. That doesnt make sense I don't, I actually think they had more as explained

Kakashi didnt unlock Sharingan Yep, he just needed Obito's chakra, even tho he didn't have the physical eye

Yea. Someone who has the Sharingan because of Uchiha blood Yes? so?

And Tsunade survived a few minutes with holes in her chest and heart which would kill a normal person within less than one. Because of her Senju/Uzumaki life force. Im not going to entertain the idea that her wound was anything less than immediately fatal Fine, lets go the difficoult way, what made you think those were 3 min and not half a minute?

What made you think that Zabuza should've survived his damage for all that time and even fought? What made you think Obito could survive being crushed in half?

You proposes that Ashura's power split and that the Uzumaki got certain features and the Senju got certain features. For the Uzumaki to be able to stand in for the Senju, they would need the same features

Madara/Tobi said he was of the Senju bloodline, not the Ashura bloodline, Still not getting what you mean for it, the Uzumaki's vitality was something the senju didn't have, this is noted multiple times with Nagato, Karin and Kushina

Yeah, same as saying Madara is of Uchiha bloodline, not indra bloodline

And until Obito tried, Nagato was the only person who could handle the Rinnegan. Due to his Senju-ness. This is debatable, Obito had half his body made of Hashirama cells and couldn't control it like Nagato could, so seems to be the Uzumaki genes did their job there

Yet there are Jonin are perfectly capable of performing such a feat Yep, so we know Hiruzen has more or comaprable level of chakra as Tobirama

Thats their power. Not half? The chain is made by another dude, if they kill someone by staddling him that part of the nunchaku is their kill?

The explosions from Deidara's clay IIRC are dependant on his chakra. Whatever he can make on the spot with them shows off what his power at any given moment is capable of Don't know about this since he has clay like C3 who is a lot more powerful than C1 and C2, but ok

If its preexistant water then it not an accurate representation of what they can do on their own So Hashirama's power has never been an accurate representation of what he can do on his own since his power is just growing preexistent roots?

He uses natural lightning because his own lightning wouldnt be that powerful So it's not hiw power?

Yes. Give her like 5 years like Konan had to gather and set materials she absolutely could get a sea of paper bombs. yeah and give me 10 years and I'll make you a valley as Hashirama did in VotE, Sakura can't replicate it, it's not just ammassing them Koanan could control all of them and hide them under the water of some kind of lake, then controlled the explosion rateo for 10 min

Ninja's summon animals because those animals have skill/attributes that the summoner doesnt have. Gamabunta can literally body flop on Kurama. Minato can do that. Kakashi summons Pakun because he can follow scents. Summoning jutsu is literally getting assistamlmce from another creature Ok, and? It's ot not their power? Also what about the rashomon gates?

If a character was naked in an empty void, whatever they can manage to do there is their own power. Ah I see, so if they can summon their animals, swords or paper bombs, then it's their power?

No she didnt. Shebhad unique paper abilities but the bombs were never one of them They were, she fought with them

Prove your claim that he stopped taking it when Naruto defeated him. That was the exact moment in time you claimed he stopped Are you sure I made that claim? Cause I don't even need it so far back... If you agree it's before Obito's fight then my premise works

Momentum=force x time

If it has momentum it has force. Anything moving has force or else it wouldnt move Nope, momentum= mass x velocity; what you wrote is the formula for the difference of momentum, who is: P1 - P2 = F x (T1 - T2)

Nope, go read what Inertia is, without friction things would move and never stop unless forces make them stop

There isnt a specific ratio ever stated but Vermillion Rasengan are about the same size as base Naruto's Rasengan but they are stronger. And Minato's rasengan are bigger, so how we know that a smaller rasengan with a better chakra is more powerful than an larger one with a worse chakra?

On contact it generates its own propulsion We can also go with this and it's not even a problem, since you just need to add to the propulsion it has on contact to your own push, surely you would have a greater force than just the propulsion

It didnt happen because of the arms. Before the end of Part 1 Orochimaru changed bodies and it had healthy arms. Orochimaru's host body rejects him after a few years and starts to die. Already stated and shown. Orochimaru knew this. What what chapter did he made the exchange with healty arms? In the end of part 1 he had the problem already

You are repeating what what you said before. What Fakusaku said doesnt change the fact that Orochimaru defies his claim

If strong body= large chakra reserves like you claim, then Orochimaru and Curse mark users should have died from Natural Energy overdose. But thats not the case Surely I am, what should I say to a repeated question? And fukusaku claim is true, it's not like it's true for Naruto but false for Orochimaru, curse marks are made with Juugo and they damage the body so seems things works out to me

Doesnt matter in the end. Chakra reserves can be increased I'd agree if you would actually provide a proof of it

There are many factors as to why someone might pick up skills better than someone else. Naruto has had to deal with Kurama's chakra mixing with his so mixing natural energy would be familiar to him in a way that Jiraiya would never experience.

Thats not it all. I dont think ever in history has a person been good at a thing solely because an ancestor was good at it. Skills are not in genes like hair color or eye color. Skills are 100% learned. Thats really all there is to it and im not going to dignify the notion that skills are inherited with a response anymore. Then what about Minato?

You're not making sense, you're saying people aren't better at things solely beacause ancenstors were good at it, which I agree with, but just after you said it's actually not a solely but a 100% never, who is false, my brain isn't created the same way as yours when we are born, surely external experiences have a great influence, but genetic is also a huge factor who you are ignoring, if you're response it's just "I'll not discuss about it" so be it, what can I say