Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180830184727/@comment-26636534-20181229150842

CombatIQmatters wrote: @Ninja of War

Again, that's blatant head canon. It doesn't matter how much you guys try to downplay, the manga made it clear. Shisui and Itachi are in fact legendary when it comes to genjutsu and they have the feats and character statements to support it. You guys wanna ignore feats and hype, go right ahead. I'll simply try this again.

That's not a fair assessment. Downplay? I said the usage of ephemeral on Naruto doesn't make Itachi legendary. Lol, I said nothing about Shisui or Itachi's other feats, so please stop with the straw-man. Head canon? What have I said that isn't true or assumed to be true?

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Genjutsu isn't just a battle of chakra control and you know it.

Chakra control is the most important, which I highlighted.

CombatIQmatters wrote: The more chakra Itachi has to control, the more resistance there is because he has to unnaturally resist the natural flow of chakra in the victim's body in order to induce and maintain the illusions. This is an example of head canon btw.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Sakura, Guy, and Kakashi are all weaving the tiger seal. So yeah, no. Naruto tried his best, he put in as much chakra into it as possible, and even with the full force of his uzumaki reserves, it wasn't enough.

Don't understand the first part. For the latter bit, that's your assumption of what happened. Only thing that is clear was that he was trying to "reset" his chakra.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Wanna give Naruto his war arc chakra control feats? Fine, then give Itachi 100 percent of his chakra available and he simply puts in MORE CHAKRA this time to increase the potency of the genjutsu, and the result remains the same (ignoring Kurama partner method).

Again, don't understand the point. This is clearly beginning part 2 Naruto that we are talking about, since it happened in the manga.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Kabuto's temple of Nirvana isn't anywhere close to Itachi's feats and hype lol. Seriously?

Wasn't comparing all of Itachi's feats and hype to temple of Nirvana, only Ephemeral usage on Naruto. Quit the strawman.

CombatIQmatters wrote:

Lol, looking at this whole thread, It's like I don't know what to do with you guys. It's amazing how in this thread we have people claiming Itachi's genjutsu isn't legendary, downplaying the speed feats of Totsuka, claiming Itachi isn't obito's level when the dude was surprised by Itachi's planning (while not knowing about the Koto plan) and admitted that had Itachi been equipped with full knowledge OBito would be dead.

Idk man. Look again at what I said, since you clearly misinterpreted it. Also, once again, the TB only has no speed feats. Only an indirect comparison can be argued there. Peace man, chill out, we just discussing here. I know things can get heated but we all just wanna discuss.