Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26104757-20170223224954/@comment-26104757-20170226000127

Rafaelrios123 wrote: Lol Sugest that ohnoki can take 2 of one the strongest akatsuk members by himself is too much feat to him.When onoki couldn't even beat a old Hiruzen, and quakinstar is right according to tobi Itachi was holding back against Sasuke and could have killed him if he wanted to.Kisame by himself would extremelly dangerous against Ohnoki him and itachi together is just overkill.

Ah?

Onoki, who, arguably so, was the strongest Kage during Part 2?

That's a great enough feat to compare with two Akatsuki members, despite their position in the Akatsuki. No one is disputing Itachi and Kisame's prowess. When Itachi's MS wasn't as exhausted to the point where he's literally blind, deaf and can't sustain it's activation for too long, we have to consider how limited his involvement is. Onoki is just too much for both of them, not while he has actually improved, battle-wise, in contrast to Itachi, falling ill. What can Itachi seriously do? Hide in the back while Kisame gets murdered? He has neither the full use of his MS and physical mobility in Taijutsu, but also in comparison to the scale how his Fire Release compares to Onoki's Earth Release, or Kisame's Water Release, Itachi doesn't cause for concern for any particular lethality. Kisame will be the problem, not Itachi, and once he's defeated, Itachi is only part of cleaning up the mess.

Onoki wins, mid-difficulty.

(Where is it stated that Onoki lost to Hiruzen?)