Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27202380-20151125000104/@comment-734582-20151126173508

GreatestSin wrote: ^but hashi was more powerful than madara on his own Extremely doubtful. They were consistently show to be equals. I got the impression Madara said that Hashi was stronger (at the stone skipping part) to avoid actual battle, knowing that his awakening of the Sharingan would keep his father happy anyway. Madara was only defeated in the battle that decided their alliance (and it's not clear if this was solely due to Hashirama) and only truly defeated at the Battle of the valley of the end. I still do not believe that Hagoromo gave Asura powers. It kinda contradicts the fact that his power was able to bloom thanks to cooperation with his allies. I think it makes sense. Ashura only got his father's power once he was already powerful on his own. Similarly, Naruto only got the power of the Sage once he was powerful on his own. Besides, didn't Hagoromo say that in stead of giving one person all the power, he would share it equally?