Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-44916514-20200123204114/@comment-38812954-20200201234501

@Flat. Lool, but Shisui doesn't have Hashi's DNA. Either way. I'm remembering pretty clearly that Itachi said that Koto could only be used once a decade. Not that only the crow with the eye could use it once a decade.

@Hal. It's aitee. No fuss. I really think it's a mistaken belief on his part because he doesn't really know how Koto works. Well at least in terms of what he said about chakra network. Also. Lol, they won't indicate to Fugaku that it's Koto used. I don't even think they know about it. What I imagine they'd do is be in confusion about Fugaku's sudden change of ideal and reprimand him, or pugnaciously remind of his former self. Especially Yashiro, "What?! But captain! We've wanted this coup for sometime now. We've discussed it so much! It's reason and cause, down to it's necessity. You even agreed to it. What's with the sudden change of heart?! Don't tell me captain. Is this because of Itachi?!" Something along these lines I think would be mentioned especially by Yashiro who'd always make outbursts at Itachi in some of the meetings because of opposing thought on the coup, and the Uchihas' dissatisfaction.

"Shisui could use his own eye more than once a decade lol. It makes no sense that you would think he can only use it once every ten years, its his eye."

Lool bro are you sure? Man idk. And hold up we're talking about Kotoamatsukami not his Mangekyou lmao

"Bro, you've misunderstood some of my points. Koto is by all means not instantaneous, and I've said this quite a lot, and I'll say it again. It took a dozen panels for Nagato to acknowledge the build-up of chakra in Itachi's eyeball, to then warn Naruto, to then have Itachi's Mangekyo fully activate in that scene, to then have Naruto begin the long process of regurgitating this crow, to then cast Koto. By no means is it instantaneous. Madara's one handseal to create 25 wood clones and 3 handseals to summon Tengai Shinsei, took 3 panels in total, and thus would be incredibly faster."

Nah I just got confused by one of your points, where I said it seemed that you are changing your words making it seem like Koto requires active attention to be cast (Where you said before that it doesn't). Cause Koto is instantaneous bro. Itachi only did what you mentioned to get the crow out of Naruto. I remember when it got out all it took was a glance. But still, in this case that Jason's proposing. Itachi would have to mind control the crow, that'd more likely be about flying, to cast Koto on Madara. Whether he'd bother with the crow or not is a thing to put in question. He'd definitely notice Itachi's shift in behaviour though. But still, would he bother? I barely misunderstand you dude, you're popular with me for sharp thought and analysis.

"I said that Koto is not a continuous technique that someone needs to maintain. You were the one who implied that it was. You said that the reason that Mifune broke out was because Danzo "stopped" the jutsu, when in reality, Mifune broke out because of realisation. Danzo clearly didn't stop anything. You even said it yourself. Ao said the technique "is undone", not that "Danzo stopped it". The moment Ao realised that Danzo was using Koto directly followed the moment when Mifune talked about surrendering all power to the Hokage. I said that Danzo maintaining the technique doesn't make sense, because it doesn't. Simple as that."

Yeah I know, but here, "Danzo got caught around the time where he began to cast the technique, which is why Ao saw an active chakra network. Mifune had just started talking about Danzo's idea, which was when Ao checked Danzo. If Ao had waited any longer, he probably wouldn't have seen an active chakra network in Danzo, since the genjutsu would have already been executed, and Danzo would have deactivated Shisui's Sharingan." It seemed opposite to what you said - That I understood and agreed with - at first.

"The moment Ao realised that Danzo was using Koto directly followed the moment when Mifune talked about surrendering all power to the Hokage."

Back to this though. Idk how it was in the manga but. In the anime. Mifune touched on things pertaining to the Raikage and all the other Kage, deciding on who should lead the Allied Forces (Danzo's idea). After this, Ao said to himself that he felt that something was off and needed to check it out. Then he sniffed out Danzo, then noticed the colour of Shisui's eye and Hashirama's chakra (Well tbh, he noticed Hashi's chakra just as a foreign chakra. We know it as Hashi's chakra so I mentioned it a Hashi's chakra). Anyway. Ao noticed Shisui's eye colour a good while after Mifune talking. That's what I really mean't. Does the anime confuse with the Manga?