Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180830212926/@comment-31672013-20180831224032

Just wanted to clarify 2 things: 1.Should I assume you're restricting Shisui's eye? Bc there's no debate if Danzo can use it.

2. You say that Jiraiya CAN summon Ma and Pa, but your title leads me to believe he's starting in sage mode. Is that the case? Or does he start in base?

I think even in base, Jiraiya is leading this fight and pushing Danzo hard from the getgo. Danzo is very skilled in precision techniques, however he doesn't have any very heavy firepower. Whereas Sasuke hadn't quite gotten the hang of his susanoo and was still lacking a solid defensive option, Jiraiya isn't going to bother wasting his stamina on acrobatics just to dodge something like Vacuum bullets or wind style Shuriken- Needle Jizo defense easily tanks any of Danzo's wind Jutsu. Danzo whips out the Baku and, if it's close range, Jiraiya can pull a similar move to Sasuke with his flame bombs, or for that matter his ranged Needle Jizo. His Art of the raging lions mane is also shown to be able to chuck around giant summons, and if the Baku is at a distance J-man can easily sink it with Yomi Numa. Furthermore, Jiraiya has an ace in the hole for nullifying Danzo's ability to use Izanagi. In character Jiraiya isn't going for the kill from the beginning, so is likely not to even run into Izanagi. However even if it should come into play, after he witnesses it a time or two, he'll get the gist of it. From there it's simply a matter of using the toad mouth binding and completely restricting Danzo's movements- prevents him from stalling using Izanagi, and without hand signs he can't even suicide as he did with Sasuke. Personally I see no reason at all to involve Sage mode here.