Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20160126181655/@comment-27660682-20160316044009

I didn't ignore anything. I said myself that the great clone explosion would do no damage, probably 3 times in this thread already, I will quote myself if I had to. But saying he wont be disoriented by the debris and smoke from a sudden point blank explosion at all is ridiculous. It doesn't matter that he is armored, his armor doesn't protect him from disorientation. The raikage tanked the rasenshuriken due to being armored and also edo tensi. And with rasenshuriken, it's not your standard explosion it just becomes a flurry of wind needles that surrond the victim,  and even then, while raikage was caught in it he couldn't do anything to anyone until the attack was over, so that counts for something. Yea naruto had increased reflexes but that's my point I waa explaining earlier, there are different types of speed. And as you said the raikage's striking speed is a far cry from his movement speed and reflex speed and he also has a hard time changing direction when he uses his top speed. The important thing to note about the gaara vs rock lee fight is that he never outsped the sand's first defense. He was moving fast and changing direction at high speed and effectively attacking gaara from multiple directions, thinning the sand and making it hard for it to all keep up. Gaara's sand is fast enough to block amaterasu, so it's extremely fast but only if the attack is coming from on a direction. Yea itachi wont be able to track raikage at top speed, but the raikage has to slow down a bit to actually attack because he is also tunnel visioned by his own speed. The raikage's have the same problem as kakashi and sasuke do with the chidori. That's why kakashi stopped using chidori after he lost his sharingan, the speed is too great for an over extending attack. Without the sharingan it's too diffcuult to tag your opponent and a miss ends being fatal potentially. That's why minato needed to save kakashi the first time he used it and told him to never use it again. My point is when I joined this discussion I see the same arguments about raikage blitzing itachi's head off before he can even activate his sharingan, and the same argument s that the raikage is untouchable and all attacks won't ever land despite the fact it's been shown with careful misdirection the raikage s can be hit. Sasuke, if he was smart, would have used a smoke bomb once he lost sight of the raikage. Then step out side of susanoo while the raikage still thinks sasuke is inside the susanoo. When raikage knocks down the susanoo he will be confused and hot headed as to where sasuke is, by then he would have gotten hit by amatersau in the head. What sasuke did was a decent move but in hidnsight it wasn't very effective because amaterasu is only a deterent, not a proper defense. The raikage was too hot headed and his arm burning wasn't gonna be enough. So sasuke would have died if gaara didn't save him. My point in this is that I actually want to see how this battle plays out without the raikage being untouchable cop out, and how effective his spear is against susanoo and whatever diversions itachi pulls.