Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-36699565-20180828161249

Ninja Of War wrote: No, Sasuke reacted by using Susanoo, Minato couldn't FTG to Naruto, since Naruto was not marked. Later in the fight when both Sasuke and Naruto were caught by Juubito, Naruto grabbed onto Sasuke and Minato with a chakra arm and Minato FTG them all away. EMS Sasuke couldn't do anything.

He was no where to be seen throughout the battle, whereas when Juubito almost blitzed him, he intercepted the assault through a Base Susanoo. He had to travel that amount of distance in a certain velocity which outsped Minato's mental reaction by all accounts.

He had the marking on him; why else would he prep FTG right before his son almost earned a blitz? He was visibly seen preparing the warp. FTG is activated through mental reaction hence Sasuke's speed would trump his (Minato's).

SM Naruto did beat 5 of the Pains. That's what happened in the manga. What are you trying to insinuate attempting to discredit that? He barely beat them. They had no knowledge. Whereas he had all of them. Deva was on cool-down. Not an impressive feat in all accounts. He possessed the Kyuubi's help throughout the second half. He earned his father's help right after. He would've lost to CT, otherwise.

BM Naruto?? You mean TBM Naruto? EMS Sasuke doesn't have anything that can compete with the firepower of a full TBB. Speed? He surpassed the 4th Raikage, who is faster than Sasuke. Genjutsu? Not Naruto's forte and unfair comparison. I guess since Naruto can use mass shadow clones, means he is superior to Sasuke (Your logic btw).

TBB is merely a mountain-ranged attack (as we've been shown on Obito vs Gai, Naruto...etc cera.) An attack of that level doesn't to the potency visualized through Sasuke's assaults on the god tree. He cleaved the trunk with no effort, when Naruto was being killed by constantly being drained of chakra. His speed was quicker than the tree's brain to process a mental reflex, as it wasn't confirmed of his arrival, judging by how it could not instantly absorb Sasuke's chakra. Fourth Raikage do not match the amp, EMS granted him. MS alone foresaw V1 speed and saw through V2, enough to garner a wall of Enton: Kagutsuchi to block the sole of his feet. Speed-wise, there's no contest which could occur, he (Naruto) couldn't dodge the Raikage's assaults numerous times and barely evaded the last attempts whereas Sasuke intercepted a god-tier maneuver(gudodama) backed by a god-tier speed on a last moment's notice with no visualising of his presence on the battle-field, prior. He isn't competing whatsoever on that department.

When was it said that all MS grant Susanoo? When was it said that all Susanoo were the same? What is your evidence that Susanoo is a greater defense than Gaara's sand? Please address these points. MS grant Susanoo. Those who awaken duo eyes attain Susanoo.

Wasn't ever denoted there were difference among Susanoo in the manga.

Gaara's sand could not bear an assault from Part-1 Sasuke Raikiri. Base, un-devoloped Susanoo tanked Liger Bomb, three horizontal strikes, both being V2 Raikage's strongest maneuvers and faster assaults.