Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-1872728-20160404064008/@comment-5936871-20160407001840

Georgio722 wrote: UltimaDude wrote: "SPD" is the Rinnegan. Rinnegan is the eye, whereas SPD is the kind of jutsu they use. One can use SPD without the eye, because some of them utilises the chakra given from the eye, not the actual eye. When one obtains Six Paths Chakra, one can basically use SPD, but only the ones that doesn't utilise the actual eye (e.g. Kakashi's Kamui Lightning Cutter). UltimaDude wrote: Yes it is, Neither Asura and Hagoromo had cross-pupils, and the special chakra cloak (that is obtained when using chakra of all the Bijuus, which Asura didn't get). Asura was never shown close up, so we don't really know. Hagoromo had the Rinnegan, which substitutes the SPSM eye (as shown when Sharingan substitutes the Curse Mark eye). The chakra cloak is a separate thing from the SPSM. UltimaDude wrote: Hagoromo was the only one to get the eye marking Asura had a headband that covered up his forehead, so did Naruto. We don't really know if they had the mark or not. UltimaDude wrote: But according to you, he would also get SPSM, which is simply not true He will, but only after getting Hashi's Sage Mode, and decades later, based on how Rinnegan works. Where does it say that it's not true? UltimaDude wrote: It's more along the lines that SPSM(a form of SPS) = "Sharinnegan"(a form of the Rinnegan) SPSM uses SPS, like how Sage Mode uses senjutsu, and Sasuke's eye is a Rinnegan at full power, not a "Sharinnegan". Hag wasn't shown using it because he's not fighting, and Madara wasn't shown using it because he has the TT, which is more than enough to compensate for, and using full power uses a lot of his own chakra. Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: Not to mention that Naruto was still stronger than Sasuke was afterwards anyway. No he wasn't. They're equal, as shown in the last fight when they both had TB chakra. Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: He didn't say anything about them unlocking Six Paths Senjutsu through it at all. Because the Uchihas are the ones that are trying to combine their chakra, so he only mentioned what will happen to the Uchihas.

Naruto was missing half of Kurama, nearly out of TSBs to fight with, and was running low on chakra from the other beasts according to Sasuke. Whilst Sasuke was forced to use the tailed beast's chakra to defeat Naruto and Naruto could still match that power by absorbing a bunch of senjutsu chakra whilst in a weakened state. Nowadays, Sasuke doesn't have the beasts' chakra anymore and Naruto has a complete Kurama. So Naruto is definitely stronger, and Hashirama was stronger than Madara too, so it'd only make sense.

I'm not sure how that matters? The conditions should be the same for both. If a Uchiha takes a Senju's body they get Rinnegan, if a Senju takes a Uchiha's eyes they get Rinnegan. Or at least that's what was implied, there was no mention of Six Paths Senjutsu at all.