Board Thread:Episode Discussions/@comment-25319479-20170920093317/@comment-9782468-20170923065210

Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: why more physically capable? and shikamru had to use other things besides the kage mane to beat them. it threw momoshiki off his balance, but couldn't hurt a tree. I guess ur point is also invalid. shouldn't Naruto, by logic, have been able to learn how do it before the 4th war? for one, he did one when in sm against juubito. sm doenst use chakra arms, and he didn't use any clones either, so im just speculating that he had the ability to do so. im not gonna argue that now, but im just saying that if u gave it some logical thought how fast Naruto progresses throught his life, he should be able to do it by the age of 15 in the least. he could do a massive rasengan with just one clones, but cant make a basic rasengan by himself? doenst that sound a little off, or at least odd?... Naruto had kakashi, yamato, jiraya, and even konohamru explain to him what chakra was. and yes, I can prove those things to be true.... now here is something that I think u are wrong in the most, tbh. boruto had been thought things by the of 8, that Naruto only learned at the age of 12, so its kinda stupid or illogical to compare a 12 y/o boruto, to a 12 y/o Naruto, if u see what I mean. Naruto was never taught anything, by anybody, until he got into the academy. that was almost a decade of his life, lost into stupidity, while boruto had advanced classes than the ones that Naruto got. for one, Naruto was in the same lvl as sasuke in many things, who just like boruto, is also a prodigy. Naruto never had a lack of skill. he had a lack of teaching. Naruto literally two people caring for him his whole life, and only one of them cared enough to go him, and that was almost never, and it was only to bring him money. if Naruto had parents, he would exactly like boruto, maybe even better. Naruto would have had minato teaching him everything that boruto leanred, but instead of learning those things at the age of 12, he would've learned them as early as boruto did. boruto isn't that much advanced mentally. he just had much, much better teaching. THAT is something that nobody can argue against, since its a fact.... neji did it like 10 times against Naruto, right in front of him. and at that time, they hadn't made up, and weren't bffs yet, so I cant really tell u why hiashi didn't do anything. More physically capable in terms of the Shadow Techniques. Because Shikadai by the Chunin exams was very obviously better with the Shadow Techs than Shikamaru at his Chunin exams. And for Temari, he didn't really use any techniques other then Shadows.

My point isn't invalid. It very obviously damaged a tree, and it threw Momishiki off his feet. So yes, it is still a powerful technique. I'd wager that if Boruto actually thrusted it like a normal rasengan, it's hurt a lot worse too. Remember that throwing any Rasengan was considered very hard.

Sage Mode improves the quality of Naruto's chakra so it's easier for him to form the Rasngan. And still, he never made a Rasengan outside of a mode until he was 17. Even when he made it with Sage Mode he was 17 during the Fourth World War. During the Pain fight he still needed clones to create Rasengan. Making a Rasengan massive just means adding chakra to it. He still needed the clone to actually initially form the shell like always.

Naruto understands chakra intuitively, even if he can't explain it in words. He understands by doing, not by words.

Naruto and Boruto went to the same academy, what makes you think Boruto had advanced classes? Naruto probably entered the academy the same time as everyone else, 4 or 5. And Naruto did have a lack of skill. It's been stated repeatedly that he had a lack of skill, but he worked harder than most people and believed in himself the most. That was his whole schtick. Like, his whole parallel with Asura.

Also at the beginning of the series, Naruto was equal in pretty much nothing in skill compared to Sasuke. Sasuke was more skilled in everything; Naruto only had more chakra and knew how to make Shadow Clones.

Everyone can argue with you about Naruto being just as skilled as Boruto at the same age. Naruto was always noted as less talented than his peers, and it was shown that he trained all the time. Boruto didn't even get training from his dad really; the whole problem in the movie was Boruto felt that his dad didn't give him enough attention.

Hiashi didn't do anything whenever Neji practiced. When he saw Neji do it in the Chunin exams, he was just impressed. Then he felt too guilty about Neji's dad so he told Neji the truth and was okay with Neji knowing the techniques.