Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-3965545-20170526213935

It would. It would easily close the gap. Kisame said that Itachi could beat Jiraiya, after they were retreating. Showing that he knew Itachi was full of shit saying it would be a tie at best.. he even said against Konoha they shouldn't have to retreat. Kabuto had more powerful techs and more chakra yet Itachi baby shaked his ass. Larger reserves and more powerful destructive techs don't mean a single thing at all vs Itachi and those two are the only things Madara has over him. Izuna was not a transmigrant and only had MS, yet he was equal to MS Madara. MS Madara and MS Izuna couldn't beat Tobirama 1v1 that's for sure. EMS Madara needed Kurama to even make Hashirama think about getting actually serious (Sage Mode and the will to finally kill Madara). Even with Kurama he was only able to prolong the fight, not even having a single chance of beating Hashirama. Now EMS only give eternal eyesight and less tech strain. So there is almost no difference between MS and EMS Madara besides what I pointed out. Tobirama and Hashirama and Hiruzen beat him(Hiruzen surpassed Tobirama at a young age and was the third God of Shinobi.) Even with the 3rd Raikage around and Onoki around Hiruzen is still the strongest Kage his entire life up until death and all of this is confirmed. Madara is an over hyped legend. The reality is that Madara was damn strong that's for sure and he was def in the top 10 but he is tier 1 but isn't number 1 in tier 1, nor 2, 3, 4 or 5 on that list, Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama, Hiruzen, and Tobirama are the top 5 in tier 1 and Madara is at best number 6. The only person who was allowed to fight him was Hashirama.. why? Because he forbade Tobirama from killing and fighting Madara and the only other person who could fight Madara in that time was Tobirama.. so in Madara's life as an Adult there was nobody special at all to battle him except Hashi and Tobirama. He is overhyped. Now when he got Wood Release and Rinnegan that put him a hairs width under Sage Mode Hashirama. With only EMS? He's tier 1 number 6 at best and number 8 at worst. Itachi with full eyesight and no health problems at all would be tier 1 too, he would be tier 1 number 5-6 at best and 8 at worst, Nagato is also tier 1 and number 2 at best and number 3 at worst.