Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25626003-20150728002625/@comment-3965545-20150902051104

sasuke and naruto were contrasted against Edo Tensei's(Weak shells of their living selves) and survived by plot protection. I don't believe they have ever fought one v one with someone who is in their prime and not hindered by being nerfed, any other crap like sickness or immobility and won, in fact yes they did and they even attempted to double team said person and both still nearly died, that Person was Madara with no eyes, then ONE Rinnegan, Senjutsu, and a bit of Kurama chakra. He basically murdered both of them, but plot made them live. Killer Bee just about killed Sasuke. Sasuke had Taka with him too and they still got pwned, then tricked. Kishi just wanted to end the series, so he made everyone around them weaker, hindered by plot and circumstance and gave Narutard and Sucksuke each half of the freaking SoSP's chakra, giving Sasuke Rinnegan and Naruto SPSM. They then lose the sage's chakra and get embarrassed by Shin for a good while. They eventually come up against Momoshiki and both nearly die and are saved by plot again. It's pretty sad.