Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-35155071-20180330190048/@comment-6769189-20180407081538

1) Are you suggesting that the very chakra that gives Naruto his incredible strength and speed doesnt itself have that same strength and speed? That is ridiculous if that was the case then Naruto would literally run andnleave his cloak behind. Naruto failed in multiple ways to counter Obito's dodge and his there is no way around that. There is also a reason Naruto never speed blitzed Obito. Because they are relative in speed. Obito was relative to Minato when he was like, 14, so i dont see how it is so crazy to think that he is somehow not relative to KCM Naruto, who displayed similar speeds to Minato....

2) idc what the wiki says. You know who those members are? Madara and Obito the only 2 people to subjugate and control full power Kurama to do their bidding. Thats what the manga says. The Uchiha were suspected because they were the only clan with that kind of potential. Sasuke didnt control Kurama while he was in Naruto either. Which explains why higher level tier Sharingan users never did it again despite all the advantages it would have given them.

3) Its not an opinion that Naruto couldnt do it. Its a fact. He was trying and failing miserably. It was common knowledge he had crap chakra control at that that time and it is a sure-fire way to break genjutsu. There is no mention of it failing, just Naruto attempting and struggling to do it. In fact, Naruto thought he could do it until Itachi intensified it and broke his concentration.

4) You quoted me and still are tryng to say that i said something i didnt say. Obito would instantly see through the genjutsu with the Sharingan. And activate Preta path in response. Nothing automatic or immune. Preta Path has no start time.

4) i suggest you read the manga instead of memorising the wiki. Even the ppl who run this site say it shouldnt be taken as absolute proof or entirely correct.

5) Naruto didnt say Nagato was absorbing his chakra. Regardless, since Itachi's chakra would technically be touching him, he wouldnt need to raise his hands or make a barrier. The barrier method wouldnt even be a big deal because he could literally just lift his hand. A bend at the elbow. Madara basically flinched and activated Preta Path so i hardly see a problem.