Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37960523-20191227052712/@comment-34656247-20191231164220

Jiraiya has no counter for Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, that aside, can he even break a base genjutsu before Itachi severs one of his body part?, nothing hints he can. Chiyo immediately said that when facing a sharingan user one is sure to flee, she then resorts to telling them about the partner method to break genjutsu, Kakashi nor chiyo brought up the 'halt chakra flow' method.
 * The databook even stated that when up against sharingan genjutsu two against one is the rule, so that one can free the other from it. Jiraiya's method only works for non-ocular genjutsu and maybe less potent sharingan genjutsu, which is something doesn't do....


 * Orochimaru was overwhelmed by itachi's 3 tomoe genjutsu powers, he was surprised of it's potency, which would explain why Jiraiya stared Itachi in his eyes in their first meeting, solely because he underestimates or doesn't realize how powerful sharingan genjutsu is.


 * Stopping one's chakra to break genjutsu is widely known, Kakashi, kid sakura, and Gai broke out of Kabuto's temple of nirvana genjutsu using that method, now remember Gai developed a fighting style to counter Kakashi's genjutsu, why was that necessary if simply stopping one's chakra was enough? lol

Jiraya loses in the beginning in the fight ,no dif.