Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-6769189-20180916171908

CombatIQmatters wrote:

@LegionZero thanks for the link. So it seems that madara didn't actually say sage mode. But, i read through that link and Seleentau also supported the notion that sage transformation is another way of achieving sage mode. So, really what is the difference exactly? If, I drive a car to work but you took the bus, and we got to the same end goal, then we got to the same place. Sage transformation allows one to gain sage mode. So madara and obito gained ridoku sage mode through sage transformation by absorbing the juubi. Naruto got it through Hagormomo, but nothing has proven that the 9 tailed beasts weren't involved. Once naruto tapped into his bijuu chakra and completed the mode, his KCM cloak resembled that of the TTJ. he also suddenly got truth seeking orbs. Seel and some of the mods stand by Sage Transformation=Sage Mode, but none of the translation say it does. Translations done by Seel. []

CombatIQmatters wrote:

I agree with you that the form is different, but we don't know how passive ridoku senjutsu leakage affects him. The change in eye pigment and the lack of pigmentation could just be early signs of him gathering ridoku senjutsu, like him being in KN0. Then when he finally did the full transformation occurred. I'm not saying that your theory is wrong, but I don't see why this alternative theory doesn't hold up. the naruto that rescued guy lacked TSOs. once he manifested the chakra cloak he suddenly got them, implying he finally completed the same transition to RSM that madara and obito did. The mechanics of Senjutsu and Tailed Beast cloaks are different. Senjutsu doesnt "leak" or have effects until properly balanced. Naruto cant gather SPS chakra while on the move. This was made clear when Kurama had to gather more for him in VOTE2. Naruto still using SPSM in Boruto despite using only KCM implies that the cloak from his fight with Madara is a seperate(but related) form/ability.