Talk:Obito Uchiha

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Fireball?
Has it been confirmed that Obito could use the Fireball technique? Jacce 15:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

In the anime, when he used that Fire Release Jutsu he said Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu which stands for Fire Release: Great Fireball Jutsu. I'm pretty sure that he used that technique.Deidara-nii (talk) 20:49, January 24, 2010 (UTC)Deidara-nii


 * It has not been proved but he is Chunin and so the chances of us being right is 95%. After all, Sasuke learned it as an acadamy student. --Kakashi Namikaze 10:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * yeah he used it in kakashi gaiden. poor obito.(goes to corner to cry for him)

It has been proved, in the Kakashi gaiden, its the manga volume 27 and yes he's a chuninNaruto1994 01:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)Naruto1994

Since he can use Katon Jutsu, shouldn't the fire nature icon be added to his page? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Team Yondaime and Team 7 Love Triangle jutsu?!
what?! AdderGuyInnit 19:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Vandalism.Jacce 19:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Front Photo
Seeing as Obito has come out in the anime shouldn't his picture be of him in the anime? Hidan13 (talk) 19:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Weird page (?)
This might just be my computer getting nuts or something, but when I enter this page there's a lot of blabla about "Sasori had a wife, her name is Erin and her sister is married to Deidara"...I have no idea how to remove it so could someone else please (if it's not just my pc).
 * It is not your computer, I see the same thing. I think there is a bug in the new infobox. Jacce | Talk 19:18, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Movie
In what movie does Obito appear in?--98.211.195.17 (talk) 18:44, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * He doesn't appear in any movie. In a special yes but not movie. The Special: Kakashi Gaiden ~ A Boy's Life on the Battlefield part 1 and 2--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 21:38, February 15, 2010 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi
 * I believe Kakashi mentions him in the third Shippuden movie, but I'm not sure whether Obito appears as a flashback or not. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:57, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

English
He is played by Vic Mignogna in english according to Heroes 3.

Appearance
Should it be mentioned he looks similar to Kankuro?


 * In what way? ~SnapperTo 05:26, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I was watching Kakashi Gaiden, and when Obito was talking to Minato on the rock, without his goggles or headband, I noticed he looks like Kankuro when the latter doesn't have facepaint on


 * I'm not sure about the anime, but in the manga they're distinct enough. Kankuro's got a squarer jaw, a more distinct nose, and lighter hair. They both have spiky hair though. ~SnapperTo 05:39, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's one person drawing them all there are bound to be some inevitable similarities because of the mangaka's style. But this one isn't significant enough to mention --Cerez365 (talk) 12:32, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
Trivia states that Obito first appears in the anime in ep. 80 of part 1. Anyone want to tell me exactly where this is? Kinggraham11 (talk) 18:30, July 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's actually 72. ~SnapperTo 18:44, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

the scene when Obito awakens his sharingan (the one he kills the other guy with a kunai) is lightly different from the anime and manga: I mean, the shape his mouth is despicted. In my opinion, the manga shows an enraged obito, but in the anime he seems to be kind of afraid or angustiated. I hope this information is valid, it could be a trivia or something, but it's so small I think doesn't matter xD 201.43.35.90 (talk) 23:41, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Three Tomoe Sharingan?
It says Obito's left Sharingan eye is erroneously depicted as having three tomoe instead of two. Could this be possible seeing as how Sasuke had two tomoe in one eye and just one tomoe in the other eye until both evened out with eachother?


 * He had the two tomoe at the time of his death, and Sharingan do not develop from three to two. ~SnapperTo 22:29, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Appearance Section
Obito doesn't have one. I'd make it myself but I'm not too sure about some things about Obito's apperance... Fangzntalonz (talk) 23:40, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * give it a whirl friend...--Cerez (talk) 23:53, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Debut chapter of obito and rin
I have checked and you can see obito and rin appear as early as chapter 16 page 1, and not at chapter 239 as stated. Its in a photo but it counts as a debut doesn’t it? can someone change, or support me what im saying or give me reasons for being wrong?
 * If it's in a photo then no. IT was decided that a person's debut is whenever they appear and not when mentioned or seen otherwise.--Cerez365™☺ 12:25, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Though being mentioned can be used as debut if the character hasn't appeared yet. For example, Shikuro Aburame is only mentioned during Madara's fight with Fū and Torune. That's considered his debut right now, but if the character were to appear, the debut would be changed to his actual appearance. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:10, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, sorry I don’t sign my name I’m just a reader that wants to help out if possible, I’ve been re-reading naruto manga since chapter 1 I’ve also been checking some data that might have escaped namely the debut of some characters due flashbacks count as debut? team Minato appears in chapter 122 in sandaime´s flashback.
 * I thought of that debut also... they really appear so their debut chapter is in shippuden...--Ilnarutoanime (talk) 10:43, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Image
Wouldn't this image look better in the infobox of the page?! akz! (talk) 04:01, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see no need to change the image. The current one is fine. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:59, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Same as former.--15:18, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Obito's Mangekyou
I was curious... And this is just some food for thought and something that could be fun to have up... But, what do you all think about putting an image in the info box of what Obito's Mangekyou would have looked like if he were still alive and had actually awakened it (of course we all know that would not have happened on his own)? Not only that, but to make things clear, we could put a notice somewhere that states that he never actually acquired it, but instead Kakashi did while in possession of Obito's Sharingan? Again, this would just be something fun to do and I doubt any one would go for it. ^^ -24.126.136.153 (talk) 02:17, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Naw. Obito never had the Mangekyo, Kakashi awakened it through currently unrevealed means. Skitts (talk) 02:19, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * (editconflict) Obito never awoken the Mangekyō nor can we speculate that he would've (I'd assume he would though on account of him being awesome). The other part of this that bothers me is that Obito's MS might have taken on a different shape if he still had his eyes or something like that.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 02:21, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * The same as Kakashi's cause it's Obito's eye. --Elveonora (talk) 02:21, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * We don't actually know that. The fact that Kakashi isn't an Uchiha could have changed everything. Skitts (talk) 02:23, December 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * @Skitts - I am fully aware that he never awakened it. I even stated above that he did not. :P
 * @Symbol - Yep. That's why I said "if he had" awakened it. Yea, it could have taken a different shape, but then again everyone's Sharingan could have a pre-designed MS for when/if it is ever awakened. Unfortunately, there is no way to prove or disprove this. :\
 * @Skitts again - Same as above. It's too bad there's not way to prove or disprove this.


 * In the end, it was just some food for thought. :D -24.126.136.153 (talk) 02:31, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... am I 'Symbol' O.o--Cerez365™ 02:35, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

[Edit conflict :x ] Yeah, I know you were just wondering. For the infobox images, we have images of the character when they were introduced usually. Oh and the wiki never uses fan made images to my knowledge; we stick to manga images, unless there is a better anime version. Skitts (talk) 02:36, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL Oh, crap. Sorry, Cerez! I wasn't looking too hard at the names, I guess. >_> And, yes. Your name is 'Symbol', haha. I saw "Hyuga symbol" and failed to see "File:" at the front of that. -___- -24.126.136.153 (talk) 02:40, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

2 Tomoes
Am I the only one who thinks its at least worth a mention that instead of having the first stage of sharingan when he first unlocked it, that he had the second stage in both eyes? I just think its worth pointing out how he skipped the first stage. lol Skarrj (talk) 19:46, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure one of Sasuke's Sharingan had two tomoe when he first awakened it, although that may have been when he was fighting Haku. Skitts (talk) 20:01, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sasuke actually had one each (he awoken the dojutsu the night Itachi killed his parents). I always thought it was cool that Obito awoken the Sharingan with two tomoe, I think it's worth mentioning as long as it's neutral sounding.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 20:11, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Definitely, very impressive of Obito =) Ahh...he would have been such a splendid ninja had he lived on...--Timon64 (talk) 01:42, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

first apperence
the trvia says he was really shown around epiosde 72 but if you look at the cover of chapter 16 you see a picure of him rin minato and kakashi behind a napping kakashi should it be added to the travia?
 * Appearances mark the first time the character himself appears, photos and mentions by other characters are only used until the character makes a proper debut. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:14, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

well i think it should atleast be added to the travoia as an apprece early in the manga just like episode 72 appernce  is in the travia?

How do u know
How do you know Obito was a chūnin, he was in a 3-man squad with Kakashi and Rin,and Minato was their sensei. Kakashi was promoted to Jonin as stated in Kakashi Gaiden, and Kakashi was became the captain of Rin and Obito. I thought a 3-man team with a sensei meant that the 3 members are all genin. Kakashi became Jonin, but where does it state that Obito was a chūnin? And does it say Rin is too? Where did it say that Obito and Rin are chūnin?
 * It was in the databook. They both had chūnin promotion data.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 16:41, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Oh ok. Where can I see these databooks, where do you go to find info like this?


 * 1) - sign your post
 * 2) - i'm sure you can find some translations around internet ... you can find out how the books are called on this wiki (I think ShounenSuki did some translations)--Elveonora (talk) 17:20, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Image
The image with the caption "Obito awakens his Sharingan" should be changed with an image showing more of his Sharingan because when you see it in the article, you cannot see the Sharingan. You can see it only when you enlarge it —¤ S @lil ¤ (T@lk) 13:48, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Something like this —¤ S @lil ¤ (T@lk) 14:24, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * More than the generic two-tomoed Sharingan which people have seen how many times, is his epic pose. I see no need to change it since I can see red in his eyes indicating the Sharingan being activated and the article states the rest of the details. His Sharingan isn't special in any way to have a zoomed-in image of it like that one.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:37, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I really like the current image. XD —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 08:54, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. But what is important here is the Sharingan, not the pose —¤ S @lil ¤ Uchiha Symbol.svg (T@lk)☺ 11:05, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Like I said, his Sharingan isn't anything special for the image to be changed with a zoomed in image of it and I can basically see his Sharingan in the current image so to me, it's unnecessary.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:40, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Tobi in Legacy
Since I have no admin powers I can't change the horribly worded sentence about Tobi having Obito's eye. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 04:16, August 12, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * Done. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:19, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 04:21, August 12, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * Add reference too please! --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 04:24, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Bug
FIre under element is messed up. And shouldnt it be listed under techniques his two abilities of his eyes, although he does not posses them, he would of if he lived up to this point. they are his eyes abilities, so they should be listed.
 * Fire Release is messed up due to Wikia updgrade, that's why there's a warning in the main page. Obito didn't actually got to use those techniques, so they're not to be listed as his. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:31, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Tobi - Obito's eye or not
There appears to be a lot of stumble around this... some see it as a given that Tobi has Obito's eye and others are "not yet mentioned, it may be some other Uchiha's" etc. Even though I myself accept it to be Obito's, that part of his body was clearly crushed by a boulder, even Obito said it himself, so I don't see how the eye could survive that--Elveonora (talk) 18:40, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

This is not a place to discuss that...--Elveonora (talk) 20:52, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

There is many points that don't allow Tobi to be Obito and even a Uchiha, at first point, if he was Obito, he had born with the sharingan (ok, he only aweaken it before his final moments end) and doesn't need to take it, Obito doesn't have any motives to hate Hashirama because he don't inherted the hate of his clan, if he was Obito how can he became so old as we've seen (Kakashi don't have this apparence) and how can he know all of the histories that Tobi knows (Sage of 6 paths, Nagato, Madara and Hashirama, and many others), all I've seen on the manga and all I know from now is that Tobi had took Obito eyes and I no see he says that he is obito. --MaskedManMadara (talk) 22:34, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sure Tobi isn't Obito as he "founded" Akatsuki before Obito could talk and walk or was even born. Again, that's not what I'm asking. Some people were removing the mention of Obito's Sharingan as the chapter didn't directly state that, like if it wouldn't be better to wait, cause it still may turn out to be an x Uchiha's Sharingan, I know everything points to it being his, like connected with Kakashi's, taken during 3rd Shinobi World War etc. but still--Elveonora (talk) 02:12, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sure I don't believe Tobi is Obito, if anything Tobi's shaping out to be *** more and more every chapter. However I do believe Tobi has his eyes, but it wouldn't kill us to write with a bit more ambiguity for now.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:34, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

It might still turn into this: --Elveonora (talk) 11:26, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Kakashi: "Give back Obito's eye you loser"
 * Tobi: "Acting all mighty again, huh? But wut... what Obito?"
 * Kakashi: "Don't play a fool, that eye of yours belonged to my friend"
 * Tobi: "You don't know anything, that fodder Obito along with his eye is long crushed by boulders"
 * Kakashi: "What about that bridge war shit statement?"
 * Tobi: "Oh, there was this guy Bob Uchiha eating his breakfast under the bridge, so I broke his neck and took his eye for lulz"
 * Kakashi: "So how are our eyes connected?"
 * Tobi: "I dunno, lol. Plot no Jutsu"
 * Fans: "fucking troll Kishi"
 * Please don't turn this into a forum. 11:43, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, just a way to express myself. Simply we don't know if it's Obito's eye for sure.--Elveonora (talk) 11:54, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fresh from the newest chapter, Tobi's right Sharingan turned into Kakashi's Mangekyo. It's Obito's eye alright.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:45, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Cool, but a thing maybe worthy a trivia... again kind of confirms that it's possible to use MS powers without the tomoe changing--Elveonora (talk) 12:13, August 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well we knew that point when Madara kept throwing out Susanoo's with a Rinnegan.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 12:17, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Lol Elveonora--Black Ronin8 (talk) 09:53, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lol Elveonora that was a pretty funny and expressing statment from you.--Charmanking2198 (talk) 10:15, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

ok so as the new chapter you can combine this and tobi, and no oh wait for future crap, they realize who he is, its stated so just do it. Manga is canon remember, this is a naruto wiki so do as the naruto manga does.
 * Yes massa' you don't need to crack the whip no mo'. Tobi is a good boy.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:09, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Actually I change my mind. I think it needs to be left alone. I started re-reading and actually think Tobi's information does not all fit on Obito, kinda think he might have taken credit for someone else, or someone else used the moniker Tobi before, although i think the tobi shown in the current time is indeed Obito.

On another note, was the masked ninja that fought Minato actually called Tobi during that battle? If not maybe that was not Tobi.

sign ur post, would Obito's corpse/body with a different soul count as Obito?--Elveonora (talk) 13:16, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

I am not starting a discussion, just wanted to point out a few reasons why I was rash, and it needs let as is for the moment until new info comes out.

I don't know how to sign them lol but would -j_spencer93- work? Also I don't know, I would think not if the actual Obito is not inside anymore.

Oh as for another note, he does not look old, he looks the same age of kakashi except for 1 side, the side that oozes white crap.--
 * You sign your posts using four tilde ~ or clicking the signature button.---Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:23, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

"~" --Elveonora (talk) 13:26, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Anyways I think this all points to more than one Obito, Kishimoto's going to reveal more later, or masked man earlier was not Tobi. I need to sign in after posting this actually.

How do i type a tilde???? or that line you made. I can not seem to get one by itself.

Go read the Kakashi Gaiden chapters again, and take a real good look at the "crushed" obito. their is no blood splatter like he is really crushed. Only blood from the mouth. I think Kishimoto had Obito planned as Tobi from the start, and these chapter between part 1 and part 2 were more important than originally thought.

Time to merged with his alter ego. Another fact, will the story how he became Akatsuki & survived from the fall been told next week? -- ScottKazama (talk) 21:25, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ya i actually want to read that, that would help shut people up about plot holes. although it not really a plot hole since the plot aint finished. --208.124.127.88 (talk) 15:10, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Guys, Tobi was still pretending to be Madara when he claimed he'd founded Akatsuki - it was Madara who helped found it. That explains how Madara knew about Nagato and that he had the Rinnegan. 207.216.193.120 (talk) 15:54, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Recommendation: Delay Edits
We might be already raring to merge the Tobi and Obito articles, but considering the mountain of backstory necessary to bridge the time-skip between Obito's "death" and, at the earliest, Minato's confrontation with Tobi, it will be a hell of an editing. We'd rather wait for the next chapter next week and see how the narrative bridges those intervening years. We don't even have any plausible information (yet) as to how a young Obito that died was transformed into an adult body identified to be Tobi and masquerading as Madara Uchiha. So there. Magatama90 (talk) 15:38, August 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, at that point Kakashi was, what, 14, 15, 16? It's not implausible or unprecedented for Obito to have pulled that off as a teenager. Look at what Itachi did when he was just 13. Still, good suggestion.  I agree we should wait until the next chapter before merging anything.  Also, it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to merge them: we just put the information on Obito's page on Tobi's, rename it, and when we're satisfied with the results lock it to prevent people from splitting it.  207.216.193.120 (talk) 15:51, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Itachi was a prodigy, Obito was a fodder inferior to Kakashi--Elveonora (talk) 16:09, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just like Naruto was a fodder inferior to Sasuke, right? Look at him now. 207.216.193.120 (talk) 16:18, August 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is rediculous. Kishi is trolling us, I'm sure of it! To quote a friend of mine...

"A masked guy who can control the Kyuubi with a regular sharingan.

A masked guy who has vast knowledge of the Uchiha clan, Senju clan, the Sage of the Six Paths, Madara Uchiha, Izuna Uchiha and Hashirama Senju.

A masked guy who within Kage level after 1 and half year before the Kyuubi attack.

A masked guy who could control the fourth Mizukage and turn his village into the feared "Blood Mist" village.

A masked guy who was able to fool Kisame, Itachi, Pein and Konan into thinking he's Madara because of his long hair.

A masked guy who could also fool his sensei, Minato, into thinking he'ss Madara too. (Chakra feel?!)

A masked guy who claims he's Madara when he's not, then made the whole world (including the Kages) think he is Madara and then declare fourth Shinobi World War.

A masked guy who seems to (cencored) hate the Uchiha clan and kill all the Uchiha members with Itachi's help, that drove the Uchiha clan to near extinction and drove Sasuke insane.

(Cencored) amount of plotholes, and yet HE is Obito? (Cencored) you, Kishimoto... -.-"

Derigar (talk) 16:53, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why this is still an issue. Elve, you obviously aren't satisfied with the conclusion, and that's fine. But you haven't based any reasonable arguments to why we should delay the edit other than the fact that you don't personally believe he's Obito. That's not a good enough reason. Kishi already said this would be the month that he'd reveal Tobi's identity, and he did. Not only that, we don't know if next week will reveal anything. What if it doesn't? Are we gonna wait another week? Or a week after that? We need to act now, with the information we have. --M4ND0N (talk) 17:32, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

No, we will wait just a week, and when there's a switch to Madara/Sasuke then it's gonna be changed--Elveonora (talk) 18:03, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

No offense Elve, but you're not an admin. It's not your place to say what we'll do, and it's not mine either. So far none of the admins have spoken about it, because it's a complicated issue. But it's quite arrogant and delusional for you to just assert that we're going to do something when you have no say in the matter whatsoever. --M4ND0N (talk) 18:05, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Weird, I saw a comment from Jacce to wait.--Elveonora (talk) 18:15, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Link me up? --M4ND0N (talk) 18:20, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

"Since it seams to be a bit hard to say when Obito put on the mask and Madara's comments about Nagato, I think it wouldn't hurt to wait for next chapter. Hopefully it will clear up some facts. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:54, August 29, 2012 (UTC)" --Elveonora (talk) 18:27, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

I still want to know what the other admins think. Since it's not up to Jacce alone. --M4ND0N (talk) 18:28, August 29, 2012 (UTC)