Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-44142243-20200416151624/@comment-34656247-20200422111317

LegionZero wrote: The text clearly shows him being confused and then drawing conclusion based on what he saw and not spouting facts from prior knowledge  So from observation he knows: LOL.... Your argument becomes even weaker when you realise this is recognized by the databook and presented in the wiki, so it's basically you alone on this lmao...
 * What the sword is also called by
 * He knows it seals it's victims in a genjutsu world of drunken dreams
 * He knows it's a variant of the kusanagi blade

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: Considering you are taking Zetsu's statement as fact based on his prior knowledge, there is no reason to believe its not a findable object. It actually explicitly states that it can be looked after and found It's actually more specifically stated that it CAN'T be found, than it CAN.

Nothing says it was something to unlock, its not even suggested. If it was, Orochimaru would have been looking for DNA since that is the only way to "unlock" abilities tied to a single person or bloodline. Even Orochimaru was able to come to the conclusion that Rinnegan could be unlocked by the union of Uchiha and Senju. Considering how little was known of the Rinnegan, Orochimaru should have been able to conclude that TB was some kind of exclusive.

Your argument is based on 2 flawed premises, the 2 of which together create a contradiction
 * Premise 1: Zetsu knows the truth about the sword... even though his monologue suggests otherwise.


 * Premise 2: That is TB is an unlockable, even though that wasnt even so much as hinted at


 * Contradiction: Zetsu cant know the truth of the sword but not know that it is unlockable and not findable. On the other hand, TB cant be unlockable if our "exposition character" says it is findable
 * Simply he was acting on little information or grapevine
 * Your argument contradicts official sources that were no where hinted to be false (except in your head), your argument has that Itachi can accessorize his susanoo which can't be proven or even speculated by the characters' existing ability, based on the OFFICIAL statement it can't even be handled. So what you're doing is leading to a non conclusive argument whilst ignoring a more recognized and sound one "because Itachi"
 * It disappearing and reappearing with susanoo, having the same color as susanoo all leads to the conclusion that it's a product of susanoo.
 * The contradiction you mentioned: The character literally says it CAN'T be found, so what's the other conclusion here? The statement would apply for Itachi as well in that "it can't be found because it's a spirit with no physical form" so how did he find it in the first place genius?