Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-37265641-20181022021850/@comment-34194151-20181130075349

@JamesSenpai Wow lots of concessions in your post there, and I'll be addressing each one.

1) Complete bias. I said in my own post that for certain, itachi's main weakness is his stamina, so I accept your concession. the invinicbility only lasts if he has the stamina to hold the blade and mirror up, use common sense. He has shit stamina and a terminal illness. That's what ignoring key points does, you can't even see when you are repeating the same things I've already said.

2) I accept your concession here as well, because it's clear that he can only wield the yata mirror and totsuka blade with his complete body susano'o, he has never shown the ability to wield it without his susano'o. Why that's the case is a question for itachi and the writer. I also accept your concession again, because the invincibility is only in play with yata and totsuka blade up. And you don't know whether or not the yata mirror and totsuka blade have their own chakra costs to be wielded, so you just made a baseless assumption. The yata mirror is a SHIELD, what are you talking about? the shield would simply protect him from chibaku tensei, it doesn't advance his gamestate in any way. He used bee and naruto's firepower to destroy the core because he doesn't know how powerful it is, then he used it as a smokescreen to attack nagato, it's like you didn't even pay attention. 3) I accept your concession, the author said he is invincible while wielding yata mirror and totsuka blade through black zetsu, then there is a stated mechanic for the mirror's defensive capability, and the totsuka blade is a one shot sword of sealing shown to be extradorinally fast. Nagato literally only needs a mental reaction to use preta path and shinra tensei, two techniques that can counter the blade as far as kabuto is concerned, and yet nagato couldn't react. Orochimaru couldn't react to the blade either. The weapons clearly are incredibly op by themselvs, and especially in the hands of someone as smart as itachi.

4) Completely and utterly biased. Databook 3 states that the shield turns back any attack whether spiritual or physical. So yes it does move on it's own if that's what necessary to reflect the attack, smh. It isn't a fan made power, you just refuse to acknowledge what was stated and shown about it's abilities. It was clearly shown expanding in size to deflect hydra snakes and to protect itachi from paper bombs in Chapter 393 pg 8 and Chapter 392 pg 10 respectively, so I accept your concession. You made the request for proof that it can reflect an attack that comes from inside, when it's already stated to reflect all attacks. Doesn't say it can't reflect attacks coming from inside his susano'o. So you have been debunked. You have to prove that it can't reflect a certain kind of attack, when the shield is stated to reflect all attacks, full stop. I don't know what databook you have been reading but it clearly says : "incorporeal shield of the "Sacred Treasures". Endowed with all "nature transformations," it can change its own characteristics depending on the characteristics of the attack it receives, making the technique ineffective." It changes it's characteristics, not just the elements, proven by the fact we clearly saw it change size in the manga in response to an attack it recieved. The proof that the shield doesn't just cover the front is that it clearly expanded to the side of the susano'o when an attack was thrown there, period. Nothing says that the shield can't adapt to an attack coming from inside. If you think it can't, that's on you, but you have no evidence to support that claim.