Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32832770-20170812151353/@comment-734582-20170819092854

Mr. Grave wrote: Kishimoto didn't give a shit about fillers or whether the anime watchers were caught up yet. The Last Naruto The Movie was hailed as Chapter 699.5 meaning it was a continuation of the manga not the anime and we did see SPSM in the manga. Besides, it was a movie - they were not having a shortage in neither animators nor budget and could have easily animated SPSM without prior basis. It's not because of the fillers. The Last was pretty quickly after the revelation of SPSM. Keep in mind that a movie can easily take a year or more to produce (write, storyboard, animate), and Naruto's chakra mode is fairly heavily featured. Unlike Sasuke's or Kakashi's appearance (which could easily have been animated late in the process), it's likely that The Last production didn't have enough time to include SPSM and so continued with the Kurama mode design. Note for instance that Naruto's immunity to TSB erasure IS featured (He moves against Toneri's Golden Sword, despite the fact that it was made of TSB's and in a normal Kurama mode would've been utterly annihilated). Vladosaurus wrote: @Thekillman Why on earth would he not have the TB chakra anymore? It's been extensively discussed in previous threads. Naruto's 4th war cloak is noticeably different from his Kurama cloak. We also have stuff like Sasuke suggesting he has little left, to the fact that only Kurama has been explicitly shown. Thematically it also wouldn't work, since the entire point of the Biju part of the 4th war was that they would be free now and weren't mere tools for people to use. If Naruto still had all that power, they would be mere tools for him to use. Alfa.Spirit wrote: hagoromo said that naruto is like a meeting place for all tailed beasts, since we have no cannon evidence which proofs the otherwise we can't say he hasn't their chakra Something Hagoromo said so Kurama had an excuse to go back. After all, he was the big proud Biju against being used as an animal, and he couldn't exactly ask to be sealed back. Besides, this was also before Naruto used up so much chakra that even Kurama was put to sleep. Mr. Grave wrote: ut if Naruto does possess the ability to apparently remove foreign chakra from a body, why can't he do that with TTJ Obito? Naruto could do so to Obito because Obito lacked full control. If Naruto can pull out the Biju from Obito, it violates the condition of the Versus, namely that Obito has full control.