Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180205153025/@comment-26107879-20180209010339

@Ninja of War

"I've used multiple points to show that sharingan genjutsu is, for all intensive purposes useless in this fight. Also, is Menma's eyes even visible due to his mask?" Incorrect. You used the fight Nagato and Itachi vs Naruto and Bee. This doesn't work merely for the fact that Bee and Gyuki did not realize they were in Genjutsu until Itachi warned them and they seen the crows. This actually counters your statement. Yes Gyuki can free Bee from Genjutsu, but it does not detect when it's in it unless it's plainly obvious.

"So, you are giving Itachi prep? Why?" What did I give Itachi before the fight? Nothing. I merely stated he starts off with his Sharingan merely due to the fact there hasn't been a single fight he doesn't start off with it since joining the Akatsuki.

"Menma always uses the nine masked beasts in his fights, so why are you saying he won't use it?" Incorrect. I never stated he wouldn't use it at all, I just stated based off all his fights, it wouldn't be his second move.

"Menma also has Obito's MS" Can you provide a source to Menma using Obito's Ms? Or did you give him it to give him a fighting chance?

With that being said. My scenario basically proves Itachi wins with a glance with no plot armor to save Menma. It's highly likely Itachi can control Menma with the Genjutsu just as Obito did with Yagura.