Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180813210639

LegionZero wrote: I only care to debate about stuff based on Kishimoto's work. Not adapted material unless that is said to be canon over the content that came directly from his hand. Like the databook written by kishimoto that says Hebi sasuke is as strong as the akatsuki, or temari being capable of blowing away the universe? ok....................and i won't really buy this statement seeing as how you're including your own shit in the argument, like Obito pushing off from kamui dimension to increase his falling speed [and that somehow makes hm fast😅😅]..or or when you said the rasengan continued on Obito's face after his mask got broken....None of those didn't happen and wasn't shown.

So you are saying that the man who wrote and illustrated the manga is somehow incorrect because manga doesnt have motion? News flash, the manga, is the purest representation of Kishimoto's work and intent. Nope, im saying you're incorrect cuz you're just saying that the whole damn fight is in bullet-time, something that never happened [a whole fight being in slow mo]

How exactly was Naruto's speed nerfed? It was never previously established that Obito was slower than him, so Obito keeping up with him says more about Obito than Naruto.

And just because there is no shunshin lines does not mean the characters aren't moving top speed. Shunshin is used when a character is moving significantly faster than than the events happening around them, but if Obito is moving at the same speed, there are no signs of shunshin. Obito being able to keep up with Naruto explains how his [Naruto] speed was nerfed😅😅. Anyways as iv'e said over 9999 times, Kakashi and Gai kept up WITH BOTH of them so, this wank is dead. Kakashi was able to perfectly throw a kunai on an opponent who was moving at super-speed😅😅. That's enough proof to deny all your made up stuff, or are you gonna say that Kakashi is as fast now?.... And i'll repost this: Pre-TTJ Obito relied heavily on his Kamui intangibility not to get massacred vs Naruto and vs Gai, so his speed is high sure.. but he is not as fast as Naruto or Sasuke or even Gai.
 * FlatZone

CombatIQmatters wrote: @Jason Kid Sasuke looked like shunshin blurs to kid gaara. Hebi Sasuke came close to blitzing deidara without being shunshin blur, so are we saying Hebi Sasuke is slower than kid Sasuke ? Or are we saying Hebi Sasuke was holding back his speed?? Look at the distance hebi sasuke skipped over in one panel, compare it to kid sasuke, and also it was explained that using that level of speed [kid sasuke used] greatly drains his stamina, so maybe Sasuke corrected his speed. Chapter 307, Page 14-15 shows his speed....well shows is a poor term to use, because he just appeared...

As for other forums, everyone has their own opinion but I've seen misinformation there too. I take this as you've never seen a character's respect thread. Just google Obito's respect thread, head over to comicvine, and you'll find the feats of the said character..just like this wikia those guys listed down what they saw in anime/manga. Sometimes manga proof are attached in the respect threads,Itachi's respect thread has alot.