Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20180516195246/@comment-26107879-20180519205631

Vladosaurus wrote: Lol ok, so Toneri`s puppets who could shoot long range destructive lasers are weaker than Sasori`s puppets who got blown to pieces by beginning of shippuden Sakura?

Since when did having a long range attack make you stronger? If one chicka like Hinata can kick their ass with ease, then yea. Sakura at least struggled against Sasori and needed Chiyo's help. She was poisoned multiple times. But against Toneri's puppets? She smashed them with relative ease and on her own. It wasn't just her. It was Sai, Shikamaru, and Hinata as well. So yea, they aren't anything special since there was nothing special shown about them.

Not to mention that a few of Toneri`s puppets (not only comparable with the number Naruto oneshotted with the rasenshuriken) defeated Hiashi and the other Hyuga members.

Fodder Hyuga not comparable to anyone is hardly a feat. Hiashi was brushing them off. The only hit they managed was due to cornering him in a cave and bringing the cave down. Considering he didn't even use Rotation to defend himself just means he was either old or he took the hit for plot. Which means it is also hardly a feat.

Naruto would oneshot Sasori`s puppets with one Rasenshuriken with no trouble.

Except for the fact that the Third Kazekage puppet can block it with ease utilizing a shield of Iron Sand. So yea, that statement is bullshit.

Toneri`s puppets would absolutely destroy Sasori`s puppets.

More made up bullshit. Where's your proof? Where's their feats other than getting wrecked? They took on an old man and two fodder. Sasori's took down a nation. Sasori's puppets feat > Toneri's puppet feats. Feats don't lie.

And by the way,a Naruto shadow clone at VOTE2 tanked a chidori from Sasuke in BASE AFTER the indra arrow vs rasenshuriken explosion,when Naruto was weakened as hell and much weaker overall than current Naruto.So please, spare me the nonsense about shadow clones...

You mean the same Shadow Clone that was never shown again therefore did indeed dispersed? That same Shadow Clone that was coupled with others that were easily dispersed by Sasuke with mere Shuriken? Okay... That definitely proves your point (LOL). Shadow Clones that are one shotted by Shuriken are definitely strong... If you didn't know, that was me sarcastically saying that was a bullshit argument. Try harder.

And what are you saying about the Toads? Why wouldn`t Naruto be able to summon them?

You can't read or something? I said they won't do shit. Nor are they all going to be summoned together. No human has ever summoned multiple giant toads, therefore Naruto isn't going to since he hasn't proved he could. And even if he could, they're fodder for Sasori and his poison.

and go read the Manga. Naruto was the only Kage who held temporely his own against Momoshiki (before going SPSM).The other Kages got taken down with one strike without even reacting.

Maybe you should re-read the Manga. Cause all I see is Naruto get kicked hundreds of feet away and easily dodged. That isn't holding his own. That's him getting his ass kicked with relative ease. So what chapter are you on about?

Honestly, if at this point in the story you are not acknowledging Naruto`s strength, then you are quite ignorant...

You're the ignorant one. Coming in here with no basis to your claims. "Toneri's puppets are better cause they got lasers" such a childish response. Where's the feats? Where's the proof? I don't live in make believe land. If there isn't evidence, it isn't true.

AsianReaper wrote: Just the One-handed Rasenshuriken throw puts him in S-Class, considering a weaker version that he couldn't throw was his move that beat S-class Kakuzu.

So having one high ranking jutsu makes you that rank? Gee, so the moment Naruto learned Rasengan as a Genin, he was already Jonin level then? Sasuke Pre Gara fight was already Jonin Level and on par with Kakashi, Gai, and them? Naruto before Zabuza arc was already far stronger than Sasuke since he had a B Rank technique out the academy, Shadow Clone; despite getting his ass handed to him by two Chunin where as Sasuke didn't even hesitate to protect him? Yea... no. Genin can have high ranking jutsu, that doesn't make them higher ranked.