Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-31253119-20170523164846

I don't think Hashirama wanted his little brother to die from Madara at that point.

Itachi's brain skills do not surpass Madara battle experience.

I have really no clue hows Itachi's speed so great when he never shown ridiculous speed feat.

And EMS effect your speed ability i think all knows that,while you have Madara calling EMS Sasuke a brat who isn't close to his level but also commenting that he has fine moves with EMS, even tho he had it for 1 day or so.As for Madara he had it for quiet some time which could really effect his movement ability.

And to back that up you have Tobirama who explains how Sharingan works,and at the end of conversation saying that visual prowess evolve that much "till that person cant be stop, just like Madara."

You can also see Weaker version of EMS Madara fighting shinobi alliance and killing any one who approaches him.

Has Itachi shown anything close to it ? i don't think he did. And yes Hashirama is only match for Madara at that time.Neither Hiruzen nor Tobirama would give Madara hard time, its just fact from what they shown,indeed that tobirama took down Izuna and do you really think Madara would allow himself to fall on same trick? and also have you people forgot Hiruzen reaction when he heard that Madara is brought back?

But yes i agree Madara losses from Hashirama but not that badly as people claim.