Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46441687-20200805182809/@comment-9782468-20200829012550

@Blood Minato as a Shinobi was stronger than Ay, which Ay made clear.

Minato also has sealing, natural speed, and the Rasengan but sure FTG is all he has.

Ay is only faster in footspeed lol, not even body movement like crouching or throwing hands.

You're ignoring, again, the fact that several translations used clarify what Ay means. Also Ay's consideration of someone's character and his willingness to praise them pretty much always has to do with their combat. It's what Minato noted himself; he complimented Bee, to which Ay said "Yeah he's more talented than I am." Whereas Minato said that he wasn't talking about combat, which confused Ay.

Minato beat Ay, pretty easy to see.

Interesting strawman, but no one here put him anywhere close to Otsutsuki level. Not even compared to Ay (After all, while Ay could do nothing to react, he was able to follow Minato with his eyes) Nice try though.

Minato was clearly superior, demonstrated in both their bout against each other and in Ay's statements.

Using context, we know Hashirama was talking about Itachi's nature as a self-sacrificing Shinobi who saw the big picture, unlike Ay who only assessed Minato (and everyone else around him, including Bee) from a combat perspective.

I never said you said he was weak. I'm just baffled that you ignore several examples to favor your argument that Minato is not a better combatant than Ay despite repeated feats, direct confrontations, and character statements, indicating otherwise.