Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-31099706-20170524181423

@NationsAnarchy. Lol maybe because this thread was made 9 days ago. I don't see how people arguing about it would expand the time of the thread, ah well unless we're all under Itachi's Tsukuyomi's time manipulation lol. XD

@Kakashi. Yes, Raw power isn't everything. But Itachi's not against someone like the Otsutsukis. He is a against a guy who is also quite intellegent, the thing is, his intellegence is mostly ignored due to his overpoweredness.But that doesn't mean that I don't think Itachi could win. Itachi very well could but here in this versus debate we can't actually just allow him to have perfect opening and perfect strategy. But in the story, that is, he probably will have a idea and a plan to beat EMS Madara. But not at this topic though, not much.

@Namikaze.Hashirama captured Kurama and then sealed him, Madara cannot use him at the end of the battle(also considering he lost alot of his chakra, to evem activate Sharingan) And I don't know what you mean by Kurama enhancing his chakra. Ovarall an injured Madara will be hunted by the whole village, then he'll be chased by other villagers who aren't his best fans and eventually his Glory will all ruin down, with shinobi chasing him as if he is weaker than them.

(about your what now? question) I'm sorry I was mentioning about the five kages in response to your last statement about the Kages giving up just because they saw the PS only.

(about the genjutsu) Madara literally showed himself as a legendary genjutsu user by taking control of Kurama. Madara's physical abilities and chakra prowress mostly covered up any use of his Genjutsu capabilities. to which people only imagine him as a guy with just taijutsu and PS. No one knew how strong Madara truelly was.

Yes they may have some counter to Sharingan Genjutsu but they never said such a thing did they? the only counter to Sharingan ever been without Perfect Jinchuriki's and Sharingans was to not look into the eyes. Literally not look into the eyes. That's the possible method a sharingan weilding Kakashi could make up. The truth is that Madara is more of a warrior rather than Assasion type ninja who only wants to finish their opponent with brute force, not through a easy and obviously possible way of Genjutsu, which Assasion ninjas would use.

And the same question should be brought up, why can't Madara figure out ways to go against Hashi? I mean you did speculate a genjutsu counter by Hashi but then shouldn't Madara try to figure out a sage mode counter for Hashi?(since that actuallu exists).

(Chakra signature) Um, I did not know that, but because of that I'm not gonna say that you're wrong but could you provid a chapter reference for it?

Well even if their chakra signature is same. It doesn't give out their chakra power, which Kurama has said that CM Sasuke has the same chakra power and eye prowress of Uchiha Madara.

Itachi has Spiritual weopens yes.Itachi has brains yes, on par MS abilities yes. But Madara has PS, also has brains, a EMS and powerful chakra and battle prowress.

And Madara has Izanagi too, while Itachi has Inzanami. Forbidden jutsu is forbidden jutsu, because they cause danger to one self, like the Uchiha's eye loss and the fact that they could be abused. I don't see any reason for any Uchiha not able to use Izanagi and Inzanami.

And Madara was very well versed in history too.

Well the thing is, Itachi never faced someone who has powers and reserves like tenfolds their own. Madara and Hashi's powers are basically that. Madara is the only one who can be a match to Hashi's power. Even though Hashi has almost unlimited chakra, high level of healing and high stamina and life force.

That said, I don't believe that EMS Madara could beat MS healthy Itachi in a full on 10/10 of fights. MS Itachi still has powerful on him so he still can manage a 4/10 wins against EMS Madara. There's no doubt about that.