Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190805194702/@comment-43403813-20190807135508

AsianReaper wrote:

Then later, you say "My problem is when people debate a fight between him and Pain, they act like Pain would go down in 2 seconds, but that is simply not true, even more so for Nagato."

I certainly never said that, and I don't see anyone here saying that. Instead of arguing against only my points, you've argued against a different argument that only you brought to the debate, which I'm pretty sure is called a strawman.

Kakashi not having Sharingan was an oversight on my part, my bad, but this still means we don't know if Kakashi can even warp a Chibaku Tensei in the first place. Additionally, I've not created a strawman in any way, the comments here clearly do underestimate Pain. Earlier, someone commented that "all it would take is Obito teleporting the paths one by one and he could beat Pain", insinuating that Obito could do such a thing in seconds, and neglecting any form of defense Pain could use against him. NO strawman, and with that comment I was not specifically referring to you, I was referring to the general consensus surrounding this versus. Instead of trying to dismantle my argument because I've brought some external information to the mix, and forgive me I am trying to be as eloquent as I can, I'd like you to appreciate some of the countermeasures that I have listed that Pain could use to exploit Kamui.

I brought UP the comparison of Obito using the Sharingan during the Kyuubi rampage, because its one of the most common excuses for people to say that this is why Obito overpowers Pain. I decided to eliminate that comparison from the start, and I apologise if I didn't make it clearer earlier that no one here used this debate, only outside of this debate have I seen this perspective frequently used.