Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20170619154549/@comment-32457608-20170713161743

AsianReaper wrote: Hungry Ghost realm wrote: Itachi dodged kirin as this is a lightning dragon which is guided by sasuke. If its guided, it will make sure it target is eradicated, still how come itachi survived and there is no indication of susanoo being used? The only explanation is , even the lightning dragon which had eyes , couldnt hit itachi as he was too fast. Also when struck him, only one eye was open....we need 2 eyes to use susanoo. Even obito was scared of itachi and he fought minato without much fear. He even stated"itachi is dead, now nothing stands in my way in attacking leaf village". Itachi will easily beat minato with just sharingan. Minato doesnt have an answer to even the most common genjutsu and itachi just needs a glance to use it. Minato cannot evade amaterasu, even if he evades the heat of amaterasu is hotter than the sun so it will char minato even if he escapes 10 miles from the battlefield. Im talking about no plot armour based on DB facts.minato cannot even place his mark on itachi , '''he is faster than minato. Ftg is summoning jutsu and this jutsu made minato the fastest, not base speed.''' Shisui is faster than minato and shisui himself stated itachi will surpass him. No one in the series has been proven wrong when that person says that some other individual will surpass him/her.

Itachi defeats minato with speed alone together with shurikens which never miss thier target. It has been stated that itachi never got fame or honour for his immense skill and power like minato or shisui who participated in the war. So itachi clearly wins this fight. Amaterasu solo's. Itachi literally said he would have died from that attack if it wasn't for Susanoo.

Madara has proven that as long as you have already awakened Susanoo before hand, no eyes are required for Susanoo.

Obito fought Minato without much fear and was still defeated without so much as landing a hit on Minato.

It's already been stated that those with sharp minds can see through Genjutsu easier. Minato would not have gotten to where he was without at least knowledge of how to dispel Genjutsu. Also, he moves so fast that eye contact with him is almost impossible if he doesn't want it.

If your theory with Amaterasu were the case, Sasuke would be dead, Killer B would be dead, random samurai would be dead, Gaara would be dead, and Madara would be dead.

Itachi is not faster than Minato. Minato's raw speed has already been established when he rescued Naruto as a baby and Kakashi as a child. He hadn't marked either of them. Yeah they would all be dead.This fight is real fight we are talking about. The director is willing to skip the rules of a jutsu if it will benefit the plot. Amaterasu will solo based on manga fact and db facts alone. Itachi dodged it bcuz obito stated clearly that itachi was lying during the entire fight. Susanoo is a big humanoid structure, if itachi pulls that out, atleast sasuke's sharingan wouldve seen it. Or zetsu wouldve sensed it. Science tells that only someone who can is faster than light will be invisible to the naked eye. Because even light-speed leaves after-images. Kakashi with sharingan couldnt evennsee an afterimage of itachi which means itachi truly is light-speed. The databooks says"Sasuke's lightning shuriken is light-speed" and itachi easily dodged it. Itachi also had only one eye opened when kirin struck him meaning he couldnt have activated susanoo. Even the raikage left afterimages when he dodged amaterasu which is clearly a plotarmour as amaterasu is literally light-speed and one has to be faster than light to avoid amaterasu. Raikage couldnt even evade chidori which is near light speed as the jutsu was prohibited by minato bcuz the user wont even be able to see thier opponents movements bcuz they will be so fast. Even kakashi could keep up with minaro's base speed, minato was forced to use ftg when kakashi was preparing chidori amd kakashi couldnt do anything against itachi which tells itachi really is faster than light.