Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20160221124823/@comment-27924662-20160315074230

well I am repeating this again itachi stated that genjutsu didn't effect kakashi because the one infront was a clone and in the episode you could see that the clone was about to attack him. clone are an effective counter against both Amaterasu and tsukoyomi, I also stated that jiraiya could create mist technique with a combo ninjutsu with his summons(perhaps gamabunta(with his toad water gun)) and fire +wind technique from jiraiya! also the mist was not made up of chakra you can check that one in wiki it's only stated that if you use dojutsu on that mist it the color of mist would be same as that of user's chakra! and as far as I remember sasuke vs itachi didn't go for too long they first tried genjutsu on each otherthan used shuriken jutsu too fight than both went above to fight with fire jutsu overall battle duration wasn't very long.the hair senbon was used as shield several times in anime by jiraiya and that technique would also work.Also even in close combat if jiraiya touches itachi he will be turned into frog!(I already stated)so jiraiya has really good chance of win even in close combat.also please don't bring orochimaaru here, I already gave the reasons as to why he lost both time. please note jiraiya never could bring himself to fight orochimaaru at his full strength because of ties that binded him in the past!also from battle point of view if itachi can beat orochimaaru t doesn't necessarily mean he will beat jiraiya. itachi himself stated if the 2 were to fight both would die and pls note he made this statement without knowing about SM.regardless of what you say I believe jiraiya has got really good chance of winning!