Talk:Obito Uchiha

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Wood Release Confirmed
Obito uses Wood Release in Chapter 605. 207.216.193.120 (talk) 04:41, October 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Its true. Spiral Zetsu even said that it was Obito who used Wood Release: Piercing Branch Technique, not him. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 04:43, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, why don't we add it then? Also, Obito's Mangekyou Sharingan section needs to be updated to say that he got it by witnessing Rin's death. 207.216.193.120 (talk) 04:49, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah he fully matured his Sharingan and awakened Mangekyo at the same time, I am guessing if you awaken the Mangekyo before 3 tomoe then it forces your sharingan into maturity. 173.66.119.89 (talk) 05:19, October 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all very well, but are we gonna add Wood Release to his Kekkai Genkai or not? I'd do it myself, but I can't edit anything. =_= 207.216.193.120 (talk) 06:54, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

i truly agree it should be added.--Tchad1 (talk) 10:53, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

The infobox is locked, when an Admin gets here they'll either unlock it and the information can be added, or add it directly. You guys aren't the only people that can read and come to the realisation that it needs to be added. This place isn't run by robots either.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:59, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

I see it's been added already. The one thing I believe we should consider listing is that the only time we've seen him using confirmed Wood Release is when he was wearing Spiral Zetsu. Remember that his own Zetsu arm was mush at that point. This is kinda like a more complicated scenario of Tsunade giving Onoki chakra for Dust Release, but this time both people can use Wood Release. I'm sure I'm acting paranoid and nit-picky about this, and we'll see Obito use Wood Release by himself in the neat future, but that's just how I am. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:20, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

You can't ignore Zetsu's comment. Also the branches came just from his crushed side.--Elveonora (talk) 01:42, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not. Obito willed the technique, and was credited with its use, but it was technically spiral Zetsu's arm that performed it. He made it happen, but not with his own Zetsu arm. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:58, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

There's no problem then. For now, we should mention that while being merged with Zetsu, he can use Wood Release or something--Elveonora (talk) 03:06, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't be against throwing caution to the wind if you want. I always wondered why he never used it in his adult years...--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:37, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Note, I wouldn't even say he was merged, wasnt he just...kinda wearing Spiral Zetsu's body?--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:57, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

The wood did come from Obito's Hashi part, not whole Zetsu enveloped body. Just because a ninja didn't use something doesn't mean he couldn't, because if we go by this logic, Tobirama wasn't an Edo Tensei user and Itachi has never used Magatama and that fire tech since that was post-death--Elveonora (talk) 17:26, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

It indeed did come from his right side, no one is discrediting the fact that he used it, Omnibender's just being cautious. As for the Tobirama bit, I don't get that because they said he was the inventor of, and was known for its use by the older generation. Madara stuff also doesn't make sense to me since that would mean all Edo Tensei'd persons never used the techniques they've currently displayed. I just found it interesting that Tobi's never used it in present day.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 17:30, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's not like killing people with branches is his only technique, Zetsu didn't display and wasn't known for Wood Release until late in the manga. While interesting, it's self-explainable... But of course it's still very possible that the funny Zetsu clone guy suit DID enhance his Hashi powers, thus without him, it's just weak or something. But that isn't the point, Obuto has Hashi cells, used a Wood technique knowingly, so has been put as a user, there's nothing left to discuss. If it was his own technique or not doesn't matter since Sasuke had temporary ones as well and are still in his infobox.--Elveonora (talk) 17:41, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, how does spiral Zetsu crediting him with the use of the technique means it came from Obito's Hashirama arm? We saw it breaking when he tried getting past the wall. He pretty much didn't have a right arm when the Zetsu enveloped him. This would be akin to a leg amputee Ino performing a kick after sending her mind to a different body. Obito is listed as the user, but it should be pointed out that it was performed with a body part that isn't his. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:09, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Obito's age
Are we really doing this again? Obito isn't 13. --M4ND0N (talk) 21:38, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

He's Around Kakashi's Age, A Year Younger I Think .--~ &#123;D.S.P.&#125; &#91;G/G&#93; (talk) 22:09, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Actually Obito is older, so he isn't 29-30 as you constantly list him to be--Elveonora (talk) 01:40, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Just because Kakashi said he became chunin at 6 doesn't mean much anymore. That was literally the beginning of the series, and Kishimoto has a tendency to contradict himself. He obviously forgot or changed his mind, since there's no way Kakashi was 6 in chapter 599. But I will admit that Obito's age is ambiguous, since it hasn't been elaborated on yet. Since there's no direct confirmation of his age, we should just say 30-34 or something. Even that would be better than listing him as 13.. since he's obviously not. :/ --M4ND0N (talk) 06:43, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Kishimoto has already acknowledged the mistake in chapter 599, Obito and Kakashi's graduation/promotion ages are correct, as both manga chapters and databooks do reference them. The things that will be corrected are Minato's monument head being cut and hopefully Hayate won't be present in the chapter as he would be 26 now if alive, but the entrance ceremony did occur 26 years ago, so at the time he was either an infant or still inside of his father "_" Kakashi was 4 and Obito 8 during their first Academy day if you like it or not. That makes him 34 in Part II. --Elveonora (talk) 17:20, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Definitely hit me up with the article where he acknowledges this, because it seems like a good read.. especially since Kakashi doesn't look 8 at all, and that's going by the same logic people used to discredit Tobi being Obito back when he fought Minato.. so like, fair game I guess. lmfao. But if it's totally confirmed by the man himself, why are we not listing him as 34? Anything but 13 would work at this point. --M4ND0N (talk) 05:52, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

So far its looking like a retcon needs to be done, Because Kakashi was a REALLY huge 9year old if thats the case, because Kakashi next to rin was obvious he is not small in chapter 605. Kakashi is 13 in the gaiden and the 599 just opened up plotholes, stop trying to make everything fit and just accept kishimoto effed up here. Kakashi and Obito are the same age... 173.66.119.89 (talk) 06:29, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Don't look how old do Kishi's character drawings look, do I have to bring up the overused Itachi example? Also it's completely feasible, I know of 10 year-old that's 150cm --Elveonora (talk) 23:14, October 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * And on that note, I remember Shonensuki mentioning somewhere that "Kishimoto is horrible at protraying age," so Kishi just made a mistake on the ages of the characters. It can happen to anybody who is drawing children younger than 14-15 (as most JUMP protagonists are that age). --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 23:37, October 12, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

What makes you think Obito and Rin weren't 6 at the time? I know it sounds like I'm grasping at straws, but I'm just making a point here. While Kishi indeed confirmed that Kakashi became Chunin at 6 early in the series, there's a lot of stuff to consider here. A. Kishi never revealed either Obito or Rin's ages, at least from my knowledge. and B. Chapter 599 has a number of plot holes, mainly Minato's statue. So Kakashi being in the Chunin exams at the same point as Obito might have been a mistake on Kishi's part. None of this confirms that Obito is older than Kakashi. --M4ND0N (talk) 01:34, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * 1 - Watch you language on here, we do not allow the f bomb to be dropped in discussions. Second, Obito's age was released in the databooks as 13 years old when his presumed death occured and Rin's was never revleaed. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 01:42, October 13, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Well see? There you go. So option B is that Kishi simply messed up when putting Kakashi's chunin promotion in the chapter. He forgot that Minato wasn't Hokage at that point, so what's stopping him from forgetting that Kakashi graduated at 5 and became Chunin at 6? This still isn't confirmation that Obito is older than Kakashi. It could just as easily be a mistake on Kishi's part. --M4ND0N (talk) 02:15, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

He didn't forget/retcon/mess up anything, except the Minato Monument mistake (acknowledged and will be corrected) and Hayate, but that's secondary.
 * According to a databook, Obito was 13 as of his "death" and Kakashi has been promoted to Jounin at the time (Kakashi Gaiden, chapter 599 being references)
 * I relly don't get what's not clear here:
 * 1) Obito did fail the exams twice, once at 9 (the year Team Minato has graduated from Academy - Kakashi 5 at this time), then at 10 (Kakashi turned Chunin as 6 years old) and finally managed to succeed as 11 years old (Kakashi being 7)
 * 2 years later, Kakashi turned Jounin and Obito got crushed by boulders
 * 5 years later, Obito attacks Konoha, Kakashi was 14 then

There's no error--Elveonora (talk) 03:55, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Info
How come the newer information of Obito and pictures haven't been added to his page for the beginning of his flash back of him first having on Spiral Zetsu aka Tobi.
 * They have, do us the favour of actually reading the article. Images are only added if there is enough text to distribute them through it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:55, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering why does Obito's page also only have his stats from before his death?
 * Because they're the only ones that were published in the databooks. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:37, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Obito's Arm
In the last page of chapter 605, Obito's arm is not visible, yet there is a giant tree to the immediate right of him. Am I the only one thinking that he lost control, like Danzo, and his arm was swallowed whole by the Senju DNA? --Uchiha Suraku (talk) 04:13, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look like it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:47, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

So you don't think the right side of his body looks irregular and the cloak had been torn as if a massive tree had ripped through? --Uchiha Suraku (talk) 18:05, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohhh, I see what you mean now. The giant tree structure is in fact coming from his right hand but it doesn't seem like he's lost control of the DNA.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 18:17, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, perhaps not, but it's the same concept as when Danzo's arm was engulfed by a tree. --Uchiha Suraku (talk) 18:47, October 12, 2012 (UTC)