Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36394790-20180824122210/@comment-31099706-20180831022733

Ninja Of War wrote: @BlazeRelease

I don't recall Izuna having Susanoo despite his double MS. Also, if we considering anime only stuff (as you did with Shisui) then what about Fugaku, where was his Susanoo? May I ask have where we have seen them fight? Fugaku never showed him fighting, so why should he use susanoo? To pick up their living room couche or something? And Izuna was mentioned to be equal to MS Madara, MS Madara had a Susanoo, if I'm right, and to equal with, he has to have one too, and as far as I know, everyone in canon who had both MS showed Susanoo, the rest can only be assumed cause they never were showed in a battle.

And taking Itachi's/Sasuke mention about the Susanoo, it seems he was referring Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi as the standard jutsus of the MS, basically he is referring to them as the two jutsus one must master before entering Susanoo, and since these MS jutsus don't have a real name for them, it fits for him to use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi as the examples. AsianReaper wrote: We can't assume someone has something unless they use it. Otherwise, we could say things like Kakashi has Izanagi and Izanami. The only prerequisites to those techs are the Sharingan. But do we consider Kakashi a user of those techs? Of course not. Huh, why not? Don't we assume Kakashi has 1000 jutsus, even though he showed about seven or something. We know that Orochimaru has thousands of Forbidden jutsu but he doesn't show them. We know that Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara, Kakashi, Hashirama, Tobirama all have mastery with five natures, but none of them of showed using all five of them once.

Izanagi is no exception to that, if Kakashi could use Kamui, then it stands to no doubt he can use Izanagi with it, if he knows how to, unless Izanagi needs Hashi cells for non Uchiha users.

What's the more obvious conclussion here? Does all four users of MS shown in the series have Susanoo? Yes they do. Do we have any users of Dual MS left to show such a feat? No. Was there any mention of any other user not being able to use Susanoo with Dual MS eyes? No. So, there's about 95% chance for an MS user not having Susanoo and a 5% chance of them not possesing it.