Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-30323490-20180418150329/@comment-734582-20180418194520

Vladosaurus wrote: I disagree. Madara was stated to have huge amount of chakra and was also an Indra reincarnation, so he had powerful chakra as well. Obito had zetsu cells.These are not regular Shinobi. So their ability to summon Kurama is self-explanatory. Hashirama's chakra is far greater than that. Even if he was at a fraction of his power, he could easily summon the 9 biju. Others like the Raikages were all powerful shinobi, even the 4th had Biju-level chakra and the 3rd was even more powerful than that. If Madara had the capacity to summon a Biju, then so does any biju-level shinobi. Of which there were several in the final summoning.

Vladosaurus wrote: Again, we are not talking about one bijuu. We are talking about all 9 Bijuu that need to be summoned AT THE SAME TIME. 9x an easy summon doesn't suddenly make it impossible.

Vladosaurus wrote: So in my opinion is perfectly reasonable for Hogoromo, a spirit, to need aid from the other Kage to summon them back. Even a fraction of a fraction of Hagoromo's power is more than anything EMS Madara could've possessed. Madara had less chakra than the 9 tails by a considerable margin, and the Juubi had more chakra than the 9 tails by a massive margin.

Vladosaurus wrote: Going back, the fact that Sasuke had 0 trouble summoning his Hawk is proof enough.Also Sasuke didn't necessary have more chakra than Tobirama or even Minato just because he obtained six paths chakra. Why do you think the Sage was out of chakra? He gave half of it to Naruto and half of it to Sasuke. So yea, Sasuke had a ton of chakra available to him. Even without that, he easily created biju-sized chakra constructs with zero issues. Nagato needed a ton of chakra and effort to create Chibaku Tensei, and Sasuke made nine without a sweat.

There's plenty of evidence that Sasuke has far more chakra than (living) Minato. So yea, for him it would be easy to summon a hawk to another dimension. Doesn't mean it's easy for a normal shinobi.

I haven't even brought up Rinnegan Summoning, which already breaks a fundamental Summoning rule (no blood needed), and may break more.

Vladosaurus wrote: Going back, the fact that Sasuke had 0 trouble summoning his Hawk is proof enough. I already showed it proves nothing. Madara easily summoned Kurama, yet Jiraiya couldn't think of a single other shinobi who could do such a thing, and he traveled the world for decades. Just cause it's easy for a god-tier character, doesn't prove it's easy for anyone else. Sasuke summoned bigger things with equal ease, yet they also didn't have to travel far. Obito hopped dimensions with ease, yet required extraordinary effort to hop across vast distances. Summoning small things across vast distances, would therefore require similar chakra to summoning large things small distances, and we already know Sasuke can do that. We also know he got both more chakra and more powerful chakra since he summoned his big snake, so that makes it even easier for him.