Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-3965545-20170523061644

DB3 puts Tobirama and EMS Madara at the same level. MS Madara and MS Izuna were the same and Tobirama won that fight. Hiruzen was stated to surpass Tobirama at a young age and I am assuming that means when he became Hokage since he said he was the strongest one of them all and Tobirama didn't contest it at all and instead chose him to be the next Hokage. Prime Hiruzen = base Hashirama going by DB and hype, there are no feats shown so we can't talk about feats with him. Madara needed Kurama and was still getting beat by base Hashirama... the Madara lovers need to chill tf out. Itachi had Obito and Danzo not wanting to eff with him and considering those two that means something. Itachi's brain and skill are out of this world and his speed is ridiculous too. I think the Itachi haters and Madara lovers are throwing this thread way off track.