Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26403664-20160228225013/@comment-27660682-20160229035218

Gmanis41 wrote: @MigShinobi "Your posts dont have evidence." Such as what? You provide the claim, you provide the evidence. My posts are responses to your claims you need to provide better evidence.

"Chapter 391 page 15, itachi says if I didnt have this ( his skeletal susanoo) he would be dead. You have no proof he even used the yata mirror, or if susanoo was even destroyed in the first place. He could have just deformed it after the mountain collasped. You seriously keep making claims without evidence and claim that I dont? When all my evidence explicitly comes from the writer and credible character ." Ok thank you. You proved me wrong in my point regarding evidence however, you still have no proof he didn't use the Yata Mirror and you can't prove it was just skeletal susanoo. You are inferring however, what you are inferring is too vague.

"Oh so now you are gonna lie about what black zetsu said too? On chapter 393 page 9 he says the shield can turn back any attack" I'm going to take the benefit of the doubt and say you aren't lying. I took my knowledge from the anime which is still canon and higher than the databook. so I will give you that. So you have that point.

"Ah, now you are using the same argument I already used, I said the manga, and databook both have errors in it. So therefore since you want to discredit everything in the manga and databook, there is no point in discussing this in the first place. Thats how far you want to go to discredit the yata mirror when there is no evidence supporting the claim it its abilities are false." The manga has less errors because over time they are corrected as new chapters are released. The databook is a book that was written once and not continuously. Kishimoto most likely forgot about the Yata mirror and had no more use for it. Since it hasn't been Retconned your theory does hold that it's possible that the mirror is capable of withstanding highly powerful jutsu but outside of what Black Zetsu said and what the Databook has said it hasn't been seen. It's not something that has been seen and therefore should be taken out of the equation if neither side can fully prove or disprove nor determine how well it can be used.

"They are from the writer, and everything in the databook entry on the yata mirror fully supports what the manga said on it, so that argument is bs. It isnt outdated unless there was an update of information that changed the features of the yata mirror." Fair enough. My argument still holds true that the Yata Mirror is still a factor that can't be decided on. I can't support my claims because frankly the Yata Mirror was never really used. Even if the mirror can't be destroyed a Rinnegan Madara (that's what I referred to when saying Madara) and Hashirama can still bypass Itachi's susanoo negating it.

@Quaking Star "He doesn't understand how Databooks, retcons, and continuity errors work apparently MIG, most of these kids don't." After this post you are no longer worth responding too. You're frankly immature and all you do is set up straw mans rather than debate. Until you come up with an actual argument other than an insulting claim I am done responding to you. I may disagree with MIGshinobi but at least he actually attempts to debate rather than making stupid claims that are hypocritical. Ok fine, I think this was a much more reasonable and also very sound post, I can agree that it's poor writing to make a such seemingly overpowered shield and then not show enough impressive feats for it. I just think that if the hype behind it true, those weapons combined with the rest of itachi's arsenal should in theory make him be able to take on beasts like madara and hashirama. I just didn't like the claims of me supposedly wanking itachi, he is definitely one of the characters I respect most,but however I dont let personal feelings for a character cloud my judgment. So I can agree that hashirama and madara based on the writing should be able to best itachi under normal circumstances if we remove or disregard the yata mirror and its uncertainty.