Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31568508-20170323180643/@comment-31099706-20170326122513

@Kakashi. dude you're talking about the guy whp lied more than Itachi saying he was madara and stuff like that. It's called manipulating. What do you think would make sasuke more sadder? a itachi who fought sasuke almost to his death so he could get orochimaru out of him or a itachi who was said to backdown the whole fight in love for his brother? Obito wanted to manipulate him, and it worked. I'm not saying Itachi wanted to kill sasuke but that Itachi was giving his best to make sure orochimaru got out of him. I mean if that was true then why did he even use tsukuyomi against a kid sasuke or a 12year old sasuke? it doesn't make sense for him to use tsukuyomi at full power against a little boy who he loved the most?

The tsukuyomi was at full power it just might have been a few days or it just as well might have not affected him to due to braking out of it. I'll keep to the latter, since I think there's no point in breaking out of a Time manipulation genjutsu that causes brain damage, if he has to get effected by them.

Why CM shouldn't be shown? I don't get it? It has to be shown to know the user used it. It's like saying Jiraya used sage mode against Nagato at the first moment but it doesn't have to be shown. You can't just assume things like that without any character comfirming it or it being ever shown. And Black and White Zetsu were there watching the fight. Don't you think they would notice the curse marks and say he used curse mark of orochi or even anything. but they didn't. instead they only said that they were shocked by sasuke escaping tsukuyomi like that and then Black Zetsu saying Sasuke's visual power of sharingan surpassed itachi's visual power of MS, something like that.

So in my opinion the actual battle of Sasuke and Itachi where Itachi hold back was at after orochi got out and how he could have killed sasuke with the susanoo. that's all in my IMHO.