Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-32617252-20180330183206/@comment-26636534-20180412120440

@JamesDuh

No, Hiruzen was faster than the others. He arrived after Minato and before Hashirama, Tobirama and even Sasuke. If you are referring to when Hiruzen attacked TJJ Obito, Hiruzen was testing out what the TSBs were capable of. He was performing a control test of sorts, since he was an edo.

I didn't say chakra though, I said jutsu based. Meaning not being able to perform jutsu at 100 percent. Also, in Madara's case, how did he escape? The only thing Madara proved is that he got an increase in power, not physical abilities.