Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20160126112547/@comment-10048743-20160208031916

Rachin123 wrote: Guyver92 wrote: Rachin 123 the Chibaku tensei was peairced by 8 tailed naruto after it was complete. Yes. The Eight-Tailed form of the Nine-Tails pierced the Chibaku Tensei, but still couldn't escape.

Guyver92 wrote: here is how i see the fight in my minds eye itachi uses Amaterasu combined with a high level, high power area affect fire jutsu forcing pain to eather absorb the fire jutsu or cancel it out with a high powered Shinra Tensei. as the sharingon slows down a persons perceptions to that of a ultra high speed camera and that itachi is fast enough to react just as fast as he perceive things (we are dealing with super humans). he sees the flames being pushed back at him and being calm in battle he uses earth release head hunter to hide underground( a common d rank earth jutsu) as the wave passes over him.

as itachi used a lot of his chakra to use the first technique it saturates the area with his chakra making it harder for nagato to seance that itachi is hidden along with the fact hat the Shinra Tensei does not really make deep gauges in the earth when used in this manner.

This gives itachi who times the 1 second it would take the wave to pass him giving him 4 seconds to counter attack. itachi with his speed would get up to nagato far faster then nagato can perseve as the Rinnegan does not have the ability to track high speed movement. itachi stabs nagato threw the heart and then cuts of his head and sets im on fire to make sure nagato is dead. Itachi wins the battle. this is how i see the fight play out.

Couldn't Nagato just absorb the fire instead? Also Itachi never uses the "Earth Release: Head Hunter". if naruto pierced it in eight tail mode but was still captured how did he go on to meet the real nagato face to face.

on to the other point, just because its not listed doesnot mean itachi does not know it. i picked it cause its a d-rank jutsu and would be somewhat common as it seems to be the base jutsu for several earth techniques. if nagato absorbs the attack how does he counter he blade strike that fallows at the heals of the attack before he can react after the big wall of fire that blocks his vision. as nagato cant see threw something like a smoke screen he would not be able to see threw a massove wall of fire even if it was a normal high powered fire jutsu that is not combined with the fire formed from Amaterasu it would bock the guys vision and with itachi fallowing the attack with a thrust of his sword to nagato's heart eather way the guy is still dead as he would not be able to move his heart as itachi stabs him.

JouXIII wrote: @Guyver92 Yes, those are Itachi's stats... And? Regardless of whetever he's sick or not, they wouldn't change. Beside, databook stats doesn't matter in the debate threads.

As for your scenario, Amaterasu doesn't activate immediately, so Nagato(who can sense it coming) can counterattack by pulling Itachi towards himself by using Deva Path, while changing his other hand into cannon with Asura Path. Will Itachi still try to launch Amaterasu, Nagato can absorb it with Preta Path.

have you ever had something like pneumonia, i have and i was not at in top shape for some time after i got better from it. itachi has something like stage 4 cancer and would be preforming no wear near what he would if he was healthy especially since he was on a powerful drug mostlikely have some side effects to combat his illness so it was affecting how he preformed.

As for the speed of Amateruasu its not slow when the mangekyo is active and as its being combined with a high rank fire jutsu it would be faster then normal. and Nagato cannot see threw this kind of attack as it blocks his vision as the Rinnegan is not the bakugon as even that would be blocked the approch i proposed.

itachi would be able to avoid any technique that Nagato throws at him thanks to his speed. its the speed part that matters in this battle as itachi is fast enough to keep up with his sharingan. also itachi has defeated enemy with the ability to see chakra because he comes from a village that has ninja that can use abilities to see chakra that is superior to that of the Rinnegan.

also as itachi uses a combat style that observes hsi oponet and reacts to how they fight well using his suppireor perseption to counter what is thrown at him. Nagato relys hevily on the Rinnegan which would be blinded by the first jutsu and therefor unable to see itachi coming at him with his sword until the sword is stuck in his chest.