Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26998824-20151010001140/@comment-26998824-20151030002755

Finally some people who see Deidara as a strong ninja @Ravenlot 27 & @keeptfighting

Clearing some things UP: Samehada can't absorb Ninjutsu. AND I QUOTE (I'm not angry, I'm just Michael Cole) "However, it seems to be unable to automatically absorb ambient chakra, as in all instances where it has absorbed chakra are when either the opponent had a visible aura around them or when direct physical contact had already been established"

Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave is clearly very big but in the anime its shown to appear bigger than the manga and it's causing some misinterpretations.

LoneNinja wrote: Unless my man Dei is hundreds of miles away then he stands no chance as well as Kisame moves extremely fast in the water and the prison follows him.

I think Deidara can escape it since in the time Kisame would be doing it Deidara would be in the air already not like when he fought Bee and he was right next to him with full chakra if not more. Deidara's clay birds have been shown to be fast and Kisame's gonna be stationary.

If Kisame stands on the Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave wouldn't the thing burst since he has to be at the center. And even if Kisame launches himself with Water Release: Water Shark Bullet Technique he's still vulnerable and even though it was anime only when Itachi fought Kisame, he used paper bombs to dispel them.

I've said that Kisame will have a hard time dealing with C4 before and not a lot of people haven't been talking about it but a big problem for Deidara is how he'll deal with Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Technique. Intially I said it was his best option against C4 since if Kisame would know what Deidara is up to then he'll need to counter it. Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Technique can absorb Deidara's C4 but there are a few things to consider;

Firstly, If GSBT is bigger than C4 karura and either can make there's bigger. Since Kisame has more chakra if he can then his will probably be bigger given if he can absorb the whole thing since he can't see them and C4 karura bombs are microscopic and could Samehada sense them since its been refered that it is a semi-sensor.

Secondly, is the explosion part of Deidara's clay ninjutsu or the clay itself because if Kisame comes at Deidara with GSBT then couldn't he send a C3 down to explode in its face or will GSBT gobble it up before it can explode.

Thirdly, If GSBT does gobble the clay can Deidara make the clay explode inside it?

I think this is definitely C4 Karura vs Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Technique. Overall, I think the explosion part isn't Ninjutsu so Deidara could blow it up with C3 or something else then Kisame gets done by C4 considering Kisame doesn't have much to deal with it because he has to reply on three maybe possibilities. Maybe he will know Deidara is going to use C$. Maybe he'll know the exact area of C4 blast radius. Maybe GSBT will absorb all the microscopic bugs and Samehada will sense outliers. I think Kisame is a very strong ninja, but this might just be a mismatch like with guy.

EDIT: I just realized Kisame could hide underground to avoid C4. C0 himself

EDIT 2: I've been reanimated don't worry. If Kisame goes underground, will Deidara have time to make a C3 and use it to blow up the ground or will Kisame pop back out and escape it?