Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-6769189-20200705100921/@comment-44437908-20200712063344

LegionZero wrote: Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Naruto is Ashura's reincarnate Hagoromo met him just because of that. He met Hashirama because he was Ashura's reincarnate. They met because Naruto was near death Hagoromo met them because they were reincarnations and they possess some of his chakra.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He didn't meet Kakashi or Obito when they have six paths chkara or senjutsu. Why would he meet them, they werent dying. Obito died like 2 times and Hagoromo never met him. He also met Hashirama with Madara's body but Hashirama wasn't dying he was dead.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Sasuke had rinnegan Naruto had SPSM and it makes sense. Hagoromo never had SPSM so how he gave it to Naruto. He also never had a tomoe Rinnegan but he gave that to Sasuke.

You seem to forget that Hagoromo is basically Ninja God. He creates life. He can do damn near anything he wants Tomoe rinnegan is mangekyo Sharingan mixing with Rinnengan. He only gave Naruto and Sasuke his chakra and seal. The powers they activated was theirs to activate since both of them are reincarnates.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Toneri should have tsb less than or equal to 10 as Hamura and Hagoromo had 10 the original tsb users besides Kaguya(but she can create it). That is your arbitrary and made up rule. Hamura and Hagoromo the original chakra beings had 10 and the decedent with less powerful tenseigan has more than 10. Why is that?.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Toneri acquired tenseigan which is downgraded version of Hamura's tenseigan. Says you. The series says nothing about his Tenseigan being a downgrade or whatever. Says their Battle. Naruto stomped Toneri without using SPSM. If he had tenseigan as strong as Hamura then Naruto would have died. Madara with all his upgrades and RinneSharingan was weak to Sasuke and Naruto combined. Hagoromo would have shitted on Madara at war if both of them were to fight. Hagoromo and Hamura sealed Kaguya which took Naruto and Sasuke another 3 memebers. Hamura and Hagoromo never had their full power and they were fighting for months. Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Its like saying Naruto has SPS without being a reincarnate or without being ten tails jinchuriki. Being a reincarnate isnt necessary for SPS. Hamura, Hagoromo, Kaguya and Toneri are not reincarnates of anyone and they have SPS

Being the Juubi Jinchuriki isnt necessary for SPS either. Kaguya, Toneri and Hamura werent Juubi Jinchuriki and they had SPS. Hagoromo had SPS before sealing the Juubi within himself. What are you saying. It was necessary for Naruto to have SPSM. Ten tails gives SPS to its user. Ten tails is Kaguya she was the god tree. Have you read the manga She was the ten tails. Hamura and Hagoromo had chakra of god tree they never have to be ten tails jinchuriki they had his chakra through Kaguya. Toneri never had SPS if he had Naruto would never beat him so easily. He beat Toneri with KCM+SM no SPSM. Yeah he had full Kurama but still he should use SPSM. He used that with against Momoshiki who was shit compared to SPSM Naruto. Oriondragon181119 wrote:

I am not saying he doesn't have SPS he is not using SPS(tsb is not here which should be as he never lost the 3). You have been saying for LITERAL DAYS now that Naruto cannot use SPS. You have been saying for LITERAL DAYS now that Naruto cannot/does not use SPS. He doesn't use means he is not using SPS. I said he couldn't or He is not using. Try to read English.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He is only using SPSM and not SPS. Thats impossible.

SPSM is SPS. Just like Sage Mode is senjutsu If that's the case then why is SPSM ninjutsu and senjutsu while SPS is senjutsu. Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He is not using the cloak or the powers he used in war. He clearly is not using the powers only flight no truth seeker orbs. Flight only with KCM chakra. He had SPSM without KCM but now he is not using that that means something is different. Flight isnt an SPS power! Its stated in the databook!

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and refuse to look at facts. Im done talking to you. It will be a waste of your time and energy to respond. Then how did Madara and Obito use flight. And if its not SPS power then by your logic Toneri should never have used flight which he did. Toneri's flight was more than gravity. Even Momoshiki used flight he never had SPS. You have no idea about SPS and SPSM. Watch and Read Naruto and Boruto again and then we can discuss about it.