Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-26636534-20160122151832

@LoneNinja

1) As far as the manga is concerned, Jiraiya can summon more than three toads, fact, regardless of whether they are giant or not.

2) You keep on rehashing that Itachi would of reflected Kabuto's genjutsu and then Kabuto would be caught in his own genjutsu and then Itachi would..., but he didn't and all the facts say that he couldn't, besides, how do you see a sound genjutsu in the first place?

3) Once again you seem to be confused with the concept of time. As I have mentioned multiple times before saying you have an exact time and even saying the "length of an episode" is not acceptable and ridiculous. At the end of the day for Jiraiya summoning the sage toads takes time how long we cannot be sure.

I find it hilarious that you have to resort to insults when you are the only one making ridiculous assumptions, ironically saying that I have to give evidence. If anyone has to give evidence then you kinda have to, since you have been caught out making your own facts and also forgetting facts.

4) Itachi used his most powerful genjutsu on Kakashi and he never used genjutsu on a tailed beast. As stated before, according to Chiyo sharingan genjutsu can overcome by multiple enemies. Sealing scrolls should be added to his page since he has used them before. Jiraiya can counter Amaterasu with another jutsu, such as his flame bomb jutsu like he did with Konan.

5) I don't think I have to, since it is common knowledge that Jiraiya encountered Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi plus his intel on the Akatsuki and all the information in the Bingo books of Konoha.

I really thought you were somewhat reasonable but after your latest post of how Itachi doesn't even need MS to win tells me that you are in the deep end of the fanboy area. Two of Jiraiya's abilities do take time and MS abilities are not all instantaneous. Itachi does need MS to win, just like Jiraiya needs his SM to win.

I suggest you first try to get out of the fanboy area, re-read the manga and re-watch the anime, then we can have an actual discussion.