Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-9782468-20180222024204

Rachin123 wrote: Let's be very serious here. 8 Gates Guy is on a completely different scale than Sage Mode Naruto. If this was SPSM Naruto, then we can talk, but to believe that Sage Mode Naruto, at the time of Pain's Assault can face Guy in this state is just ridiculous. I honestly believe that Guy wouldn't even need to go all 8 gates to face this Naruto. But, if he were to go all 8 gates, it's over for Naruto within 3 minutes at best. I doubt it would even take 3 mins. Nah, the point is that Guy would smear Naruto across the pavement but Guy would die as a result.

LegionZero wrote: Self sacrifice is hardly a win for the enemy.

Hirudora was exploding Madaras Susanoo. I doubt Gai needs to go past 7, best case for Naruto. The fact that Gai had no other choice but to kill himself in order to kill Naruto, that's what makes it a draw.

Gai used 7th Gate Hirudora on Kisame and Kisame wasn't killed. Pain is stronger than Kisame. Naruto isn't down immediately just because of Hirudora. I mean if he gets hit directly sure, but I think as a Sage he could move mostly out of the way.