User talk:Seelentau/Archive 12

Chapter 699
Senpai, the chapter is out, its title is The Seal of Reconciliation, 和解の印, Wakai no In .. I can't make the article here... So it's better for you to create it. Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 10:56, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Y/N? Norleon (talk) 18:43, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Could you please help me?
I was wondering if you could tell me what is said in the fourth databook about Might Guy and the last gates and corresponding techniques? I've been trying to find the translation everywhere. I would really lke to know what is said about the afternoon tiger and especially the eight gates released formation, evening elepphant and night guy. Thanks in advance for any help!--Jusmick (talk) 16:18, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Chōchō
So you undid my edit for Chōchō's trivia. Why make I ask? Rachin123 (talk) 19:44, November 7, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Oh wait is it because of her grandmother and Karui not having markings? If so we could change it Chōchō is the only known Akimichi clan member born into the clan and not have markings. Rachin123 (talk) 19:49, November 7, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123

Re: Articles without content
At least I'm adding the articles that we need to add, which should've been added a long time ago.. I'm adding the stub category as well so that anyone could update the page anytime to help out. The jutsu pages do have infoboxes, so they have some content.--Omojuze (talk) 20:32, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * If that bothers you, I won't add any more, but somebody eventually should... If your picky, I'm just gonna ignore it for now, if that would make you pleased.--Omojuze (talk) 20:38, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I'm afraid of grammar mistakes >.< . Also, we add every single action from game movesets, right? Even when the user uses a jutsu that is strikingly similiar to his other one (for example Third Raikage using Hell Stab and a different game jutsu to side swap using Lightning Chakra Mode-induced Hell Stab)--Omojuze (talk) 21:00, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

wonderin'...
Any indication in the databook about Tailed Beasts having biological gender/sex?--Elve Talk Page 11:32, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

I honestly don't think you can conclude them to having an actual gender as they are often described as "huge masses of chakra" in an animal's form. I think it's all up to speculation. Kurama is be assumed to be leaning towards male by his voice, but Matatabi seems to be something along the lines of possibly leaning towards being a female in my opinion, but that's just me xD

MaddiKitten 21:04, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

DB Hinata's connection with Otsutsuki
Hi Seelentau, I'm new to this wiki, I can't understand Japanese, I just wanted to know is there any connection of Hinata with Otsutsuki, it just occured to me that Hinata is shown beside Kaguya and Kimimaro in page 9. Here is the link Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 09:14, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

does the fourth databooks say naruto has kekkai genkai because his page states he has 3 Actionmanrandell (talk) 11:46, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Colored Manga (again)
Hehehe... Blah! • WindStar7125     20:19, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * They colored Guruguru green, fail.--Elve Talk Page 23:17, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Countdown Translation
Hey Seel, how are you? I was just wondering if you could translate, this page, just to see if there is any new info ? Thanks! --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 21:37, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Itachi and MInato
You said the databook gives more info on his timeline, and that he enters Akatsuki at age 15 right? what exactly does his db4 page say?? Also I read somewhere that Minato saved a Jinchuriki from Kirigakure and that sparked the 3rd world war 27yrs age from Naruto and Sasuke's final fight? Is any of that true? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 04:27, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

oh, yeah!
Before I forget... considering, that plenty of fodders have got an entry in the databook... there must be something about the other two mysterious members of Team Jiraiya, right?--Elve Talk Page 19:20, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

I get it so absolutely nothing? That's puzzling. I guess mystery it is meant to be.--Elve Talk Page 20:48, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Shippers
A lot of shippers (NaruHina, SasuSaku) have been coming here lately. Glad you were here to handle that mess. :) Though this might be a problem in the future. • WindStar7125     02:27, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Magnet Release
When listing an advanced nature in the nature section alone, is it suppose to automatically list the kekkei genkai?--Minamoto15 (talk) 19:12, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Cellular Regenaration Absorption
Could you please move this to Cellular Regeneration Absorption? It is a redirect so I cannot do that.--LeafShinobi (talk) 18:55, November 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 19:01, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

Bō
Hi. Kannst du bitte Shitō Akimichi und Maruten Akimichi unter den Bō-Nutzern eintragen? Ich darf mal wieder nicht. Norleon (talk) 20:44, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Du bist mir ein Admin! :D
 * Na ja, in der Regel wie sonst auch, "edit tools" und dann unter den softtdirects die beiden alphabetisch in die Zeile einfügen. Oder kannst du ebenfalls die Änderungen nicht speichern? Norleon (talk) 20:51, November 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Vielen Dank! :) Norleon (talk) 21:04, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Bad scans
I can see most of what I want for now, I've been adding databook references. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:56, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

God: Nativity of a World of Trees
The current information we have on that article is that it is a Kekkei Mōra, requires the dōjutsu power of the Rinne Sharingan, and is not Wood Release. Is that all correct, according to the databook? • WindStar7125     03:55, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Gamabunta's size in Databook 4...
Shouldn't this be one of the things we discount? His size was shown to be far larger than just 17 meters, maybe they missed a couple zeroes after all.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 05:21, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Yagura
If the fourth databook says it was Mei Terumī that Zabuza tried to assassinate, then how could it be likely that Yagura was his target? Arawn 999 (talk) 16:32, November 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. Now I'm curious as to why there was an edit made saying that it was stated in the databook. Arawn 999 (talk) 16:47, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sasuke's Six Paths Chakra
Sorry for the run-on paragraphs, but WindStar7125 and I have gotten into something of an editing dispute and I was told to talk to you.

I was rereading the manga, and I came across something that clashes with what the wiki says: Hagoromo tells Naruto that the reason he - and by extension Sasuke - was able to speak to his ghost was because he had attained Six Paths Chakra - like how Minato, Kushina, and Obito's ghosts were able to speak to others through their chakra. Naruto attained Six Paths Chakra from having the chakra of all nine tailed beasts,(Chapter 671, page 9) and Sasuke from apparently receiving a transfusion of Hashirama's cells - which contained Asura's chakra - from Kabuto. (Chapter 664, page 4) What Hagoromo's ghost gave to them were the Six Paths Yang Power (to Naruto) and the Six Paths Yin Power (to Sasuke) in order to seal Jinchuriki Madara, and those were returned to him after Kaguya's sealing. Regarding Sasuke's Rinnegan, Hagoromo states that in order to awaken the Rinnegan an Uchiha has to unlock Six Paths Chakra by being an incarnation of Indra and assimilating Asura's chakra, like what Madara did by transplanting Hashirama's flesh into his own body. When Kabuto was resuscitating Sasuke on page 4 of chapter 667, he says (according to the only translation I've been able to find) "With my medical ninjutsu, the cells of Hashirama I've studied thus far, and someone's advice... I could somehow save his life." This suggests that Kabuto infused Sasuke with Senju cells to heal him, Asura's chakra in those cells reacted with Indra's chakra within Sasuke's body, forming Six Paths Chakra, which allowed Sasuke to speak to Hagoromo's ghost and awaken the Rinnegan. What Hagoromo's ghost gave Sasuke was the Six Paths Yin Power, which returned to him after Kaguya was sealed.

According to WindStar7125, Hashirama's cells can't be used to awaken the Rinnegan because he died and Asura's chakra was passed on to Naruto. But if Kabuto didn't infuse Sasuke with Senju cells, how did Sasuke acquire Six Paths Chakra? He can't have got it from Hagoromo's chakra-ghost because according to Hagoromo himself in order to be able to speak to his chakra-ghost they had to already have Six Paths Chakra in the first place. As for whether or not Hashirama's cells could be used to activate the Rinnegan, Orochimaru and Kabuto (who was following in the former's footsteps) certainly thought so because they were experimenting with Sage Mode, Senju cell implantation, and wanted a live Uchiha in order to "learn the secret of the Sage of Six Paths", as Kabuto put it in Chapter 521. If that's too implicit, Guruguru outright told Obito that if he was lucky the Zetsu tissue (which contained Hashirama's cells) that Madara patched him up with would interact with his Sharingan to awaken a new power - referring to the Rinnegan - which could only happen if they still contained traces of or a connection to Asura's chakra. Arawn 999 (talk) 08:15, November 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Debate's still ongoing. So, is there any definitive answer to whether Hashirama's cells still contained traces of Asura's chakra capable of awakening the Rinnegan in one of Indra's reincarnations? Or is WS7125 right and Hashirama's cells couldn't be used to awaken the Rinnegan because he died and Asura's chakra was passed on to Naruto? Arawn 999 (talk) 08:54, November 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, chapter 681 page 3, Sasuke stated that he and Naruto received those amazing abilities from the Sage of Six Paths' powers, so I'm going with what the manga said. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 16:01, November 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry to bud in but imao I think you both are right, I think Sasuke met ghost Hagoromo's ghost because he got access to Six Paths Chakra because Kabuto injected him with Hashirama's cell and what Sasuke meant was they got powers because the ghost gave them Sage chakra, and, Naruto and Sasuke both received Yang half and Yin half respectively, Hence the new power Six Paths' Sage Chakra. I hope they reveal this and make it clear in anime, just trying to give a lead.Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 07:21, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Translation
O.o Apologies for that. I guess I got caught up in the fact that there was a translator present to translate that for me. That didn't have anything to do with the 4th databook. Won't happen again. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 02:50, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto Uzumaki
Seel on page 28 Naruto Uzumaki, does he have Yin release? because it is not mentioned in Databook, but it is mentioned in infobox.Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 12:33, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * another question why are we not naming what is in the data book like Ashura is in databook instead of AsuraNaruto uzu6254 (talk) 14:29, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised they went with that spelling, since it's supposed to be a reference to Hinduism and I've only ever seen it spelled "asura". Arawn 999 (talk) 16:57, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have one more question, I know Naruto has his affinity for Wind release from the start, but are his Kekkei Genkai actually new Kekkei Genkai?-Boil release, Lava release, Magnet release (we have seen these releases one time because of powers given by Tailed beast), Wood release (now he has Hashirama's cell hand this is agreeable because it is related to blood and organ like eye). I thought Kekkei Genkai is blood related just like the dojutsu. So these releases will continue from his bloodline? So the tail beast giving him powers aren't Kekkei Genkai and the databook showing icons are just releases? Just answer this 'yes' or 'no'. Thanks for taking time to read this ;) --Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 10:52, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

I just want to know whether anything is there in databook about Kurama being a scorch release user, Kurama only helped to give his wind release for Naruto but can he mix fire and wind?.Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 11:29, December 11, 2014 (UTC)

Six Paths Chakra
Apologies for bothering you (like always), but to my understanding, the Six Paths chakra = Hagoromo's chakra (please correct me if I'm wrong there). Due to that, I have a series of questions to ask of you:


 * Did Hagoromo transfer the Six Paths Chakra to Naruto and Sasuke? Or did they already have it to meet Hagoromo?


 * Due to the fact that Indra + Asura = Six Paths Chakra and Rinnegan, would it be plausible to state that every Rinnegan user has the Six Paths chakra?


 * Is saying the Six Paths Sage Chakra = Six Paths Chakra + senjutsu chakra a valid assumption?

Many thanks for your time. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 03:57, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hiden+Kekkei Genkai?
Hello, Seel-san. I've been wondering this for a while, but some techniques, like these ones, have been called both hiden and kekkei genkai. So what should we do with their infoboxes? Put only the kekkei genkai tag or the hiden one as well?-- JOA20 19:39, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Whoops, you answered right when I was going to bump this topic. Anyway, while I think you are correct, what shoulfd we do with the jutsu's infoboxes? Put just Kekkei Genkai or Hiden too (obviously only in the cases where it was labeled as Hiden as well)?--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:15, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hehe, alright, will do.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:21, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but if this is any help at all deciding, a Hiden is usually a secret technique passed down through tradition, not bloodline, so it's definately not related to kekkei genkai hearsay, but there can be moves taught to use with their kekkei genkai I imagine. A hiden can be taught to anyone, while a kekkei genkai is strictly bloodline, but I don't see why there's can't be a secret technique for a kekkei genkai that can be "taught" to anyone "with" that kekkei genkai. If this makes sense :3 MaddiKitten 20:51, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Databook Classification
I don't have a databook so if my edits class with them then just put "databook classification" or something like that when you revert my edits :).Cloudtheavenger (talk) 20:42, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in, but Tau is a sysop for the exact reason that he is a translator. There is no reason to go around reverting his edits and claim he is wrong. It'd be like Suki-sensei making edits and me reverting them for no particular reason. In all fairness, you removing Tau's edits could be considered vandalism, as you are removing valid information from the site. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:44, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * What Sajuuk said. By the revert policy, the act of reverting valid edits is classified as vandalism. So please, stop. Seriously. Or you could get blocked. ~• WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 20:57, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
 * Did not know that but now I do and I will do exactly that.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 21:01, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Archive 2
I kindly suggest you do so. Your talkpage has gotten long IMO. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 00:31, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken
Could you provide the source for this edit? Thanks.-- JOA20 16:36, November 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would like to have a source for the part. Not that I doubt you, on the opposite, but it would help (not to mention that the page is protected so only sysops like you can edit it). Also, I'd like your opinion on the topic a little above (Hiden and Kekkei Genkai).--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna.svg JOA20 14:13, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

Magnet Release and curse marks
Hi Translator-san, what were the hints in the databook that suggests Shukaku's Magnet Release is associated with his curse marks. NoJutsu (talk) 08:36, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

What's the difference?
Kanzentai, Kenseitai... It's not a matter of translation but where the terms apply? I'm confuzzled. —「SaiST」Mangekyō Sharingan Sasuke (Eternal).svg 16:50, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

...
You don't have to respond to me on my talkpage. But just as a heads-up.... he's back. And he might be ready for more of a long ass debate. ~• WS7125 [Mod] 16:14, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Natural energy
Is there any new information in the 4th db for Juugo's ability to absorb natural energy? The manga somewhat suggests that it is a kekkei genkai but definitely not in a way to draw any clear conclusions, so was it ever clarified in the new databook? NoJutsu (talk) 17:14, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

I'll post this in your translation thread as well, in case that is your preference. And just to clarify, I know Juugo didn't get tagged with kekkei genkai in his character profile, but I'm wondering if any of the entries for his jutsu mentions anything about kekkei genkai. NoJutsu (talk) 02:40, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

The Last Prologue?
Hey Seel, how are you? I was just wondering if you could translate this link:. It says something about a prologue for The Last, and it shows the battles between Asura and Indra, Hashirama and Madara, and Naruto and Sasuke. What is this exactly? --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 18:15, November 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have any idea what this is?--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 17:12, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Cleaner scans
Dunno if you know about these already, but it seems cleaner scans for Jin no Sho have surfaced. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:50, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Need your help for some translations
Hello Seelentau. My name is Ultrasonic9000 and I primarily work on Sonic News Network. I write this because it has come to my attention that you know how to read Japanese and I have some Japanese names for some characters that I need translated. I know that they are very simple, but I just don't trust the online translators as they keep giving me something to choose between and I don't know which one to pick. And since SNN's translator is on an undefined hiatus, I therefore hope you would be so kind and translate these names for me:


 * ラー
 * ウー
 * スー
 * ベイカー

I know it is not much, but it will mean a lot to me if you can translate this. Thank you for your time.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 14:20, December 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. I appreciate this, even though it did not quite turn out as expected.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 14:31, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Relationship page for all?
I know we might have already talked about and decided against this, but with the series coming to somewhat of an end, and a great amount of ships sunken, maybe it's time we tried to give all the characters, major ones and minor major ones at least, a relationship page like Naruto's, maybe? Justin Holland (talk) 00:44, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Saviour of this World
Hello. As you may see in the link in the section header, I added Obito as one of them, but with a note that it was under the guise of Madara. If you don't think it's wrong to put it like that, would you please add the moniker to Obito's infobox (since the page is locked for obvious reasons)? Obviously, since Obito was called only, I think it'd be better to put it like this:. Thanks for reading, wheter your choice may be.--JOA20 10:08, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Chapter #665, page 10. As I already stated above, he was called only "Saviour", by Madara.--Nature Icon Gas.svgJOA20 14:08, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * …because Madara obviously meant it that way? "You aren't Obito! You're Madara! […] Come! Come, Madara! Even now, you're still the Saviour!"


 * Do with that what you will.--Nature Icon Dissolution.svgJOA20 14:24, December 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with your reasoning, but whatever. Is it too much to ask you to put just "Saviour" in Obito's infobox?--Nature Icon Light.svgJOA20 22:04, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Madara called himself the Saviour, and that's more than good reason to put it in his infobox. Madara calls Obito the Saviour (as Madara; as I already stated in the moniker's page); and that's not a good reason? I'll back up for now, anyway. But I don't agree, sorry.--Nature Icon Erase.svgJOA20 22:17, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Hey, I have a question to ask you. I don't want to sound out of line here, but is there any reason why a vast majority of the blocks you are placing on users are either "1 year" or "infinite" for only making a few bad edits? You might want to read this and reduce the lengths when blocking users in future. As a rule of thumb, only really obvious vandals should be infinite blocked: users just making a couple bad edits on the wiki (with or without using VisualEditor) should be blocked on an increasing scale, from 3 days -> 1 week -> 1 month -> infinite. Infinite blocking every user who makes a few bad edits that aren't exactly terrible but not productive is just going to create acrimony and increase the likelihood of alternate accounts being made to complain about the blocks. Just some helpful advice, you can ignore it if you wish. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:14, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Databook Info
Narutoforums.com--Deva 27 20:58, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

Some help with Sensory articles
Sorry to bother you, but I would respect your decision, so I'm here for help. Hope you'll have the time to read this:

1) Should Sensing Water Sphere be considered a Water Release Jutsu? There are many signs pointing to "yes" listed in the talk page. I would appreciate your opinion, from someone who helps translating the databook.

2) Shouldn't Naruto and Kurama be removed from this page since, like Karin, they have their own unique sensory jutsu? Either that, or Karin should be listed in the "Sensing" page, right?

If you read this, thank you for your time :)--Omojuze (talk) 19:08, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

sir how to edit the profile section i can't edit it always appear "The modification you tried to make was aborted by an extension hook"00Suzaki00 22:44, December 11, 2014 (UTC)00Suzaki00

databook arc info
Can you confirm if the databook recently updated the information regarding arcs and chapters ? If so, does Fated Battle Between Brothers end at Chapter 402 instead of 412, and does Pain's Assault (Arc) start at 403 instead of 413? Thanks. --Sajuuk Talk Page 18:59, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks! Seems there was a slight mistake made, but it's all sorted now. :)
 * PS: Able to quickly join chat for a couple minutes? --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:28, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Translation of "Akatsuki Rising"
i was wondering. Will you try translating of Naruto Shippūden: Legends: Akatsuki Rising in Japanese? the Japanese characters appear on this game cover image. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Akatsuki_Rising.jpg Kunoichi101 (talk) 06:48, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

UNS4 Fire Release
Could you help me decipher the name of Madara's Fire Release here? It's clearly Katon: Gōka Senpū/Fire Release: Great Fire something, but I can't figure out the second to last kanji. My first thought was "whirlwind", but doesn't look like 旋, even though the last one is 風. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:02, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: The Last novelization
I do not have the novel and likely won't be getting it, as my Japanese isn't strong enough to read an entire novel without it being an unenjoyable struggle. I have however read a few descriptions of the book and have seen some mentions of changes. For example, the novel gives Toneri some additional backstory with his father that helps explain his fascination with Hinata (I'm not sure exactly what the backstory is). It's also provides attack names for two of the attacks Toneri uses. Some have speculated that the few extra scenes were cut from the theatrical version and will perhaps be present on the DVD / Blu-Ray release of the film, which is somewhat common for anime films. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:06, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll just wait for Japanese users to summarize it. I already got the two attack names (Ginrin Tensei Baku and Kinrin Tensei Baku), anyway. =P FF-Suzaku (talk) 23:02, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Manda II
Do you believe Manda II should be considered as affiliated with the Ryūchi Cave and Otogakure?--JOA2018:16, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because there was this user who went ahead and deleted Manda II's affiliations.--JOA2018:28, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, this is that user's reason.--JOA2018:34, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

I think I might can help. Manda II is supposed to be a copy of Manda made by Kabuto after he'd taken in Orochimaru's cells right? So I would think it would only be a relation to Kabuto and not exactly a "place" sense Kabuto was no longer affiliated with Oto then and doing his own things. If he did make Manda II within a lab, it will depend on if that hideout's lab was in Oto or not. As for Ryuchi cave, he was supposedly created, not born there. I do hope I'm remebering this right. ^^; if not I'm sorry to waste your time.

Hope this helps~ MaddiKitten 20:56, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Ootsutsuki
Would you consider them to be human or not?--Elve Talk Page 23:01, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

I know, just Hamura's article was stating him to be human.--Elve Talk Page 14:05, December 20, 2014 (UTC)