Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-9567825-20140906164559/@comment-9567825-20140910084746

Hiyayaka-kun wrote: Kirsty, you're as bad as Karin. Since you don't seem to get it and think that he hasn't done anything bad, let me break it down in a list for you of all the shit Sasuke has done that has earned him a rope necklace.

1. First degree murder - Subject(s) - Shimura Danzo 2. Attempted First Degree murder - Subject(s) - Uchiha Itachi, Oonoki, Terumi Mei, Ay, Gaara, Haruno Sakura, Uzumaki Naruto 3. Second degree murder - Subject(s) - Land of Iron Samurai, Uzumaki Karin 4. High Treason - Subject - Defected from Land of Fire, Konohagakure no sato to join traitor/terrorist Orochimaru 5. Terrorism - Subject - Joined terrorist organization known as Akatsuki 6. Attempted Kidnapping - Subject - Kumogakure jinchuriki known as Killer B

I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Yeah, Sasuke is a standup guy. Sasuke only does what Sasuke wants. Maybe he has had a change of heart, however, he's still a criminal. You do not piss off the leaders of every major country in the world (let alone try and assassinate them) and then turn around and lead one of them.

I'm not a 'Sasuke hater', I'm just stating a fact, he went from being an anti-hero a long time ago. A line was drawn, he pissed on it, he crossed the rubicon, I don't know how else to put it.

Erm...Excuse me but didn't I say Sasuke has done bad? That Sasuke is not innocent? That I wouldn't defend him against his actions against his old team (this includes both), killer B. I have never once said Sasuke hasn't done anything bad or that he is innocent.

I will defend him when people say he's evil because that is just not true. Cold maybe, emotionless at times maybe, self-centered yes. Evil no.

No he didn't piss on it. You look at things in black and white. Evil and Good. Right and wrong. You don't look at the bigger picture. You don't look at the reason of someone's actions.

You look at it like he did something bad he must be a bad person. He must be punished. He cannot be trust. I look at things with a grey area. That everyone falls sometimes but that doesn't mean they can't be redeemed. I look at why they did what they did, was justified or not.

What you forget that Sasuke reaction to what he learnt was logical and a reaction most would have. He was fueled by anger at having to lose not only his clan but brother and then finding out the village betrayed you in the worst possible way.

I mean think about it this way. If the government decide to kill your family to save the world....I mean your entire family except your brother or sister (if you haven't got siblings I will say Dad) and made the last member kill everyone. How would you feel? I doubt you would think well it was too save the world. I know I wouldn't. That was my family they killed good reasons or not. The fact that they killed everyone was disgusting. Not every Uchiha was a threat. Innocent children...possibly babies were killed during the massacre. Women who probably wasn't a threat but was just married into the Uchiha clan was killed. If this happened to you would you see it as right or something you would just go "Hey well it's alright." Would you?

The actions of Konoha, left him without nothing and turned him into the person he is today. Of course he is going to be pissed. Of course he would want to destroy them like they destroyed him basically and his brother.

When people find out the truth do you really think they will think. Oh he evil let's throw him in jail and throw away the key. No most likely they would understand why he became so dark. Naruto, Kakashi and I think Yamato did...I can't remember if he was there or not when Naruto told them what Tobi had said.

Now am I at all saying Sasuke's actions weren't wrong? No, no I am not. His actions were wrong and I am not defending the actions themself...except when it came to Danzo because I will stand by that the man deserved it. Plus I think if Danzo lived he would have been either imprisoned or sentance to death for what he did at the Kage summit or he would have ruled over Konoha with an iron fist.

But I will defend the circumstances of why he went so dark for a little bit.

I hope this clears things up a little bit