Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26479810-20171222153110/@comment-734582-20171223153632

Kingomanoki wrote: Um but didn't naruto show in boruto manga that he still has the seal or was that a mistake? He doesn't have it in any other case, so it's just a simple design feature and not the actual seal. Naruto changed his seal when fighting Kurama yet is shown with the same stomach-seal all the time, and the design of it changes all the time indicating little connection between chakra cloak design and Naruto's actual powers. Kishimoto's designs sure as hell don't show the same seal, so i think the new guy simply looked at the SPSM design and copied some aspects (e.g. note that the hands have an identical design). Kingomanoki wrote: why would he run out of chakra? the ginkaku and kinkaku brothers never ran out of their kyuubi chakra, and naruto is the meeting place for the tailed beasts so i dont see why he couldn't restore chakra? Kinkaku and Ginkaku didn't just obtain some chakra, they ate Kurama's chakra-flesh. They obtained some of his "essence". I can't emphasize enough that the Manga is horribly inconsistent with it's terminology, yet we can clearly notice that this chakra-flesh is different from regular chakra. I don't see the Alliance running around in Kyubi modes for instance. Nor do i see Kakashi with a Kurama avatar. So clearly, the chakra that a biju gives out isn't the same as the chakra of their flesh. That flesh contains something beyond mere chakra, something that makes a biju more than a pile of chakra. I tend to think of it as a spirit, but honestly it could be anything that fits the same purpose. Vladosaurus wrote: You spit ridiculous BS that make no sense for the storyline just so you can try to support your ridiculous claim...It's just sad that things like this are still around the Naruto fandom like its 2015 all over again. So Sasuke using powers he clearly demonstrated, or Naruto obtaining Biju chakra exactly as he did before is BS nonsense?

There is no definitive answer to whether Naruto still has Biju power. His cloak design, lack of power use, chakra gift rules all suggest that he doesn't. It's not impossible that he still has it, but no part of the story makes it necessary that he does. I'm absolutely mystified why you react so adversely to my suggestions that Sasuke or Naruto just repeat things they already did, showed they were capable of and showed that they worked. You balk at the suggestion that Sasuke simply obtained some biju chakra from his Chibaku Tensei, even though he already did that before. Why? It's nothing special at this point. Besides, it wouldn't be the first explanation Kishimoto omitted in his story. And it's hardly the most important.

Yet you keep going on saying that reasonable assumptions and observations are BS even though they aren't. None of this requires exceptional feats, it's all been demonstrated. None of it requires new things, it's all been demonstrated. The only thing it requires is that stuff we've seen before, is used in ways we've seen before, following rules we've seen before.

Even if we entertain the idea that Naruto obtained an piece of Shukaku or Gyuki (rather than just some chakra from them), then it wouldn't explain why the other biju's chakra (and they just give him chakra, the same way Kurama gives Kakashi chakra) would regenerate when under existing rules, it shouldn't. Unless you mean to imply that Biju can split their power and form new independent biju, even though this would be a never-before-demonstrated feat.