Talk:Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist

Debut
Any particular reason for that chapter/episode as the debut? I believe the debut should be either when they were first mentioned, which would place the debut around Zabuza's introduction in the beginning of the series, or when they first appeared as a team, which would make it a post-mortem debut, as resurrected shinobi. Opinions? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:14, February 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Given that the term itself applies to multiple generations, rather than just those who appeared post-mortem, I think the first mention is the more appropriate of the two options that are suggested, which I believe is also consistent with what is done with other such groups. Blackstar1 (talk) 02:40, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Since most members are "former" (deceased or defected), I'd say Zabuza's debut would mark the group's. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 04:37, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Though I'd prefer it if it were when we say the group during the fourth war, there are multiple generations so it seems better to go with when the group was mentioned in this instance.--Cerez365™ 10:25, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok then, I go for the group's first mention. I'm not finding any reference to the group when Zabuza first appears, at least in the manga. What episode was that image that only had silhouettes from? Do we still have that? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:05, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uhm, I checked the page history and it doesn't seem so. You might want to revive (File:Seven swordsmen.jpg) to see if it has the rationale information. I can't remember where the silhouette's from either.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 16:16, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just checked the history, the rationale never listed the episode. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:41, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Differentiating Generations
i personally think the members should be divided by what generation of the seven swordsman they belonged to, previous or current/recent i.e. Zabuza's Generation should be listed together (the seven revived ones), While their successors should be marked, i.e. Chojuro, Kisame, and Raiga, seperately. I was thinking dividing it in a similar fashion to how the edo tensei is divided amongst who summoned them.

these are my thoughts, do with them what ye will Shadowfox337 (talk) 00:22, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Second coming of the demon
What does it stands for ? I always thought that it refer to Zabuza "the demon" but Zabuza was just a member of the group and Mangetsu leader, so why is the latter called second coming of the demon ? Maybe I have missed something--Elveonora (talk) 12:55, May 31, 2012 (UTC)