Board Thread:Boruto: Naruto the Movie/@comment-27162446-20151105015144/@comment-26010916-20151203060955

I. Doesn't matter, though. Which is why the argument doesn't work here. Since both Naruto and Sasuke are exhausted, it means both their movements and reactions would be sloppy due to the fact that they are tired, putting them on the same pedestal.

II. Kishimoto himself knows what he is doing. I'd rather take what the Manga says, rather than someone who ignores the fact that Sasuke wasn't the only one who was exhausted. And I don't mean this to me rude, but honestly that's just plain and simple wrong. It's like me saying Sasuke bests Naruto in Taijutsu, yet neglecting the fact that Sasuke only has one arm.

III. You said failure Shin's? Then I can agree with you there.

IV. Oh, you mean the facts that I already posted before and you have been trying to counter with the "Sasuke is tired because he can't move well" despite Naruto being equally as tired and can't move well. Give us a break.

Here:

Chapter 697 page 17 Chapter 697 page 19 Chapter 697 page 21 Chapter 697 page 23

Mind you, this fight was 3T Sasuke vs Base Naruto (/w shadow clones). Base Sasuke at that time was superior to Base Naruto in speed, but Naruto could react to it (he was obviously faster with chakra modes). In Boruto and Sarada's case, neither is faster, and Sarada's Sharingan only goes up to 1 Tomoe. Considering Boruto canonically made four clones, it's more or less an overkill.

IV. Actually, it's the other way around. And actually read my post this time clearly before you misinterpret.

What does Sarada need to do in order to finish Boruto off? She needs to touch him physically. How else? She has to smash the ground.

First one, isn't possible due to Sarada not having any form of counter for the Rasengan. The moment her fist touches the technique, she loses her arm.

The second scenario, Sarada has to jump in the air, and use her aoe against Boruto. Again, highly impossible with his feats against Shikidai (in which he used clones to his advantage to move better in the air). And with the lack of actual speed/reaction feats, there's no way for Boruto not to get out of the way and doge.

The reason why the same can't be said for Sarada, is because her strongest form of counter which obliterates Boruto, is the Sharingan in CQC. But since the Shadow Clones bypass that entirely, she cannot finish him off. It takes one punch, and by feats, she can't land it on him. It's like arguing against early Part 2 Naruto v. Sakura.

What's worse is that Boruto is so versatile compared to her, that the argumentation doesn't even make sense anymore. Boruto has too many ways to land hits on Sarada, and mind us both, he doesn't even need to move in close. He also has the Vanishing Rasengan, which a sensor couldn't even locate, Momo'Kinshiki (the fusion of them both). //Best feat being able to track Sasuke after his S/T and push him away.

Sorry bro, but I don't see the argument here. I've seen threads like this in other forums and they pretty much have said the same thing I'm saying: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=687955

What's funny dude is that there are two people in that thread who are having the SAME exact conversation we are, and then the dude arguing for Sarada, says he agrees based on the Manga facts, the same as I am doing, and then they leave.

For example. Sarada just isn't in Boruto's category due to the feats he has, and sadly she doesn't have much outside her dodging Shin's kunai, and her CES. None of those are enough to match up with his skill set and versatility.

The lack of argumentation in this debate comes from the fact that you ignore what was shown in VoTE2, especially with how the Shadow clones are too much for the Sharingan precognition. Much less you overestimate a 1T Sharingan, especially when the situation I'm comparing revolves around a 3T Uchiha.

Curse of Hatred wrote: @GreatestSin You're not wrong, just re-read the chapter and it doesn't state that Sasuke was 'overloaded'. I was thinking more about the show when I wrote that though, since that is a bit more explicit in showing Sasuke's eyes trying to track all the swords (episode 143 if you're interested).

Either way, I agree with all the rest of the stuff you've said. You aren't completely wrong though. Like we discussed before, the Shuriken Jutsu between Sasuke and Itachi doesn't happen simulatenously. They each throw a certain amount of shurikens at each other. This mainly has to do with speed between them both.

If I remember correctly, Sasuke was even using a Fuuinjutsu to benefit as well? Either-way, Vote2 says all that's needed to be said for the Sharingan v. Shadow clone debate.