Board Thread:Boruto: Naruto the Movie/@comment-27162446-20151105015144/@comment-26010916-20151202014439

GreatestSin wrote: I: im not saying that sasuke wasnt able to see the moves, but his body was exhausted to a point where he couldnt dodge despite seeing it, furthermore, 1T already showed prediction ability, remember Part1 pre-chunin exam sasuke vs lee? sasuke was able to follow lee until the latter used chakra to boost his speed, and, how exactly can shadow clones stop the prediction ability of the sharingan? fighting clones is like fighting a lot of people, so why does the sharingan eye suddenly fail?

II: i think you are confusing something, the prediction ability doesnt get overruled, it isnt like the ability suddenly vanishes if someone creates to many clones, the only thing that gets harder is for the user to keep up with the amount of fists and kicks that come into his direction... and obviously in VOTE2 sasuke was to exhausted to dodge all of the clones combined attacks...

III: and what would it change? what im saying is that the clones would be unable to do anything to sarada like stopping her, she could causually wipe the floor with them and the original the moment she gets close enough...

for the other points: shadow clones are weaker than the original, it wouldnt be suprising if they are even weaker than the shin clones,

i dont get the "common sense"part...

IV: i never said they can, i asked if 3T was really the case... btw, it is hilarious to think that because of vanishing rasengan boruto suddenly gets better than sarada in close combat XD

PS: im not saying that eye-contact is required, itachi already showd a relatively strong jutsu to capture and contain naruto, and this jutsu didnt require any sharingan usage at all...

V: nope, close combat will be dominated by sarada easily, boruto has only chance to win if he can finish her with mid to long-range attacks, which he obviously cant since he requires a lot chakra for spamming such attacks (if he even has such attacks), and his weapon-skills on mid-range wont be useful at all since the sharingan would easily predict their movement, this all would simply bring the outcome of a hand 2 hand fight in which boruto (with or without clones) gets the shorter hand...

I. Like I said before, that's just an excuse. Both Naruto and Sasuke were drained from the last stalemate, Naruto even more due to the fact that he was fighting in the War way longer than Sasuke has. Using this as a way to ignore the argument is a bit asinine. Doesn't matter whether they were exhausted, or at full health. The point is their conditions were the same. I'm not going to repeat this argument a third time though, just bring me the scan of Sasuke being the only one affected in the battle.

II. You aren't understanding. Shadow Clones interrupts Sharingan precognition on the sole fact that there are too many movements happening in the focial point for the Sharingan to keep up. 3T Sharingan > 1T Sharingan, enough said.

Funny enough Naruto was using like how many clones against Sasuke. Four, or five? Nothing else to say here.

III. Shin > Next generation debate wise. The normal Shin's I mean, not the deformed versions. People need to understand that a regular Shin was capable of dodging a BM Naruto hand. When Chou Chou and Sarada were fighting Shin, Shin had already cornered Cho Cho and was about to slice her into two, and Sarada whom was trying to buy an opening for Cho Cho earlier had been tripped by Shin whom wasn't even fighting her in CQC, which yes means Close Quarters Combat, I forgot to respond to that bit, sorry.

So I don't really see the argument here. Sarada on the ground, gets defeated due to Shadow Clones stopping her in her tracks. If she jumps in the air, all Boruto has to do in jump to avoid the aoe damage which only affects those who are "STANDING", key word, STANDING on the area of effect. In that time he could simply create a Rasengan and throw at it her.

IV. That's actually not the case. Boruto can defeat her with CQC alone with shadow clones. He uses the Rasengan to actually finish her off, but a regular Kunai would work the same in this case.

Also, he doesn't really need to use the Vanishing Rasengan here if they fight in CQC, which is Sarada's fighting style anyway. He can form the Regular Rasengan too.

Genjutsu - Then state that you are talking about regular Genjutsu. IT shouldn't even be brought up here because no one uses Genjutsu in the next generation so far, so it's totally a foreign concept in a debate when these two barely have feats anyway. Let's not waste time.

V. Sadly your argument failed the moment you had no real counter to the Shadow Clone > Sharingan portion other than Sasuke being exhausted, despite the fact that even Kurama tells Naruto how much more he was exhausted by fighting all this time in the War, which Sasuke only joined up later with the past Hokage's.

Anyway, Boruto defeats her in CQC like I said already. She would come in close, she would be unable to keep up with the sheer movements happening, and Boruto would land the Rasengan on her body.