Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33589845-20171107191936/@comment-7292165-20171108063019

@Lorenzo

Jiraiya had trouble because he was basically outmatched when it came to it. His ninjutsu was rendered useless and its his main fighting style. His speed and taijutsu can be countered by the Asura Path who is heck of durable too. They all can see through each other's vision and because Jiraiya is one person, its not gonna be easy for even him to sneak up and get them without them knowing. However, we have multiple people against the Six Paths of Pain. We have two taijutsu users who could take down the Preta Path in one shot. The Naraka Path and Human Path will be no problem to take down for any of the Kage. Gaara can easily defend and attack with his sand. Then we have Mei with her lava, water and boil release ninjutsu, which will be a problem as the Preta Path will not be there to absorb it. And lets not forget Onoki with his Dust Release which can easily wipe out any of Pain's summons. The Deva Path will most likely be the last one standing with the Kage in a pretty decent condition while the Deva Path will try to rely on using the giant scale Almighty Push, which the Fourth Raikage could most likely tank, Gaara using a strong sand shield and Mei summoning Katsuyu like she did when Pain invaded the village. The Five Kage is just too much for Pain because of their skillset. Had Jiraiya had Tsunade and Orochimaru on his side, he would have done much better and defintely won.

P.S.

Naruto only beat Pain because of prior knowledge, prep time, hell of backup, Pain not at full capacity and plot no jutsu. Kakuzu did not have trouble with Ino-Shika-Cho whatsoever. Kakashi is what kept them alive with the help of plot as well. Kakuzu's defeat was plot.