Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5085906-20180725155538/@comment-2043993-20180729101057

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

And the imagination fail award goes to you....

how so? Moving through any substance means that that substance is displaced -> moves with the direction of the movement. While it's hard for a human in the real world to do, someone with Tsunade's strenght could make it happen. I treat it as a similar effect as Guy's Daytime tiger which does that, but with air, although that was air and performed with the seven gates. Tsunada hasn't shown the ability to use that sort of technique, but her massive physical strenght has not only parted the ground with a single finger but aalso broken through a Susanoo's ribs. I fully believe she can pull it off.

In close combat it might appear that Kisame has the advantage because of Samehada, but that is not the case, Tsunade is as a master medic nin fully adept at avoiding hits, Ehh?...the last part lol

It says on her page that she thinks is the most important thing a medic nin should do in a fight is to avoid getting hit. In order to cause any damage you have to hit them first, being evasive is a big hindrance for that to happen. Kisame is a melee fighter first and foremost and Samehada has only been shown sucking chakra in close quarters, and even then, only on skin contact, not through tools and the like. Tsunade has an advantage here.

But on the subject of Chakra absorbtion, while Samehada can do that, Tsunade has access to the strenght of a hundred seal which literally gives her access to 100 times her normal chakra. He can suck all he want, it isn't going too hel him in the least. I made a typo here, it's meant to say help, not heal. While it's true Kisame gains stamina through Samehada which makes it possible for him to win in a battel of attrition, but against Tsunade's evasion and her own stamina, durability and endurance, he's in huge trouble.

He was basically peeping on tsunade and got shitted on with a punch...now Jiraiya's endurance isn't comparable to Kisame's in a long shot.

It's not just a question of endurance, but of skill and abilites, I do admit that it didn't say whether or not Jiraiya fought back, but it's highly unlikely that he didn't try to at least defend himself, besdies, where does it say that it was only one punch? if that's the case it only serves to underline that Tsunade is extremely dangerous.

Nagato Laughs..Itachi Laughs...Obito Laughs...Ohnoki Laughs. It was just hype. Fully posible that it's hype, but Kisame hasn't been shown to conclude that he'd loose to Jiraiya on personal experience against him. He'd have to base his conclusion on third party information, which makes it likely that he'd base a vs battle against Tsunade on similar sources. He'd mostlikely conlcude he was outmatched based on abilities, fame and deeds.