Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-44916514-20200123204114/@comment-24824859-20200201223911

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: But he never fought Madara whilst alive, so he wouldn't use the techs on him dude, your logic. Like i said, there was no reason for him to use it alive, which part of this don't you understand. So you're deliberately making a straw-man. Dishonest is as dishonest does. I have already addressed the weak excuse. Obito takes the rinnegan...there goes your argument. Besides Koto on Pein would not affect Nagato. And just how would he do that when he waited until Nagato died to get the Rinnegan? Koto would work on Nagato through Pain just like how it worked on Kabuto through Itachi. What? Can you not follow a conversation? Welp, I'm done discussing to you. The way you reach for any argument to be made for Itachi's (and Naruto's) victory is off-putting.
 * You: He knew Madara was planning world domination in the akatsuki, and he has a one shot tech that could eliminate that right away, you do the math.
 * Me: Your premise is extremely weak. Otherwise, why didn't Itachi use Koto on either Pain or Obito? Also, this is a hypothetical fight where the motive of the combatants is to simply win.
 * You [in response to bold]: Making it more of a reason for him to use the jutsu.
 * Me: Except it's not, their motive would be winning just for the sake of winning. It's not more of a reason than supposedly saving the world