Talk:Susanoo

Can Sasuke use Susanoo/Tsukuyomi
There is another mistranslation going round and hopefully I can correct it here. According to some people, Madara tells Sasuke that Itachi planted all his eye techniques in him. This has been mistranslated.

In chapter 397, on page 11, Madara tells Sasuke:. Translated to English, this would become: "At last... For your sake he injected his own eye power inside you". He never says "all eye powers," which means it's still unknown whether or not Sasuke can actually use any of Itachi's other jutsu, besides Amaterasu. In fact, it's also unknown if that Amaterasu was anything more then a one-time thing.

Just for reference, if Madara had said "all eye powers," he would have used .--ShounenSuki 19:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * But by that same token, "injected his own eye power" could presumably add Tsukuyomi and Susano'o. Which is why both of those techniques have Sasuke labled as (Presumably).--TheUltimate3 19:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * True, it's about 50/50 in my opinion. However, I don't think we should add such speculation to the article. Sasuke never used Tsukuyomi and Susanoo, there is no clear evidence he can use those techniques, so we shouldn't say he can. Even if we add presumably, since it's just as presumable that he can't use them. --ShounenSuki 19:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * To revive this in regards to the page's protection, Sasuke should not be listed as a user, presumed or otherwise. The translation suggesting he can use it is outdated, open to interpretation, and Sasuke himself has yet to use anything other than Amaterasu. To that end, a wiki should present information that is accurate, not information that might be. ~SnapperTo 21:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with SnapperTo. In retrospect, especially considering the information gained from the third databook, it's obvious Madara referred only to the Amaterasu Itachi sealed into Sasuke's Sharingan with his Transcription Seal: Amaterasu. There is no way to tell if Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi or Susanoo until we've seen him use it. We can't just assume he'll be able to use them just because Itachi could. --ShounenSuki 21:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Third databook
I was able to find a scan of Susanoo's article in the third databook (thanks to whoever uploaded it). If you want to see it, go here. I'll add some of the details. --ShounenSuki 20:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Susanoo
wouldn't this be classified as both a ninjutsu and genjutsu?


 * Its a Kekkai Genkai...Please sign u'r comments..AlienGamer | Talk 20:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

madara
shouldn't we put Madara as a user, because Itachi said that Madar could use all four Mangekyo techniques?

No becouse it was never shown if it is shown we will put it.Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 20:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Yata no Kagami
A spiritual shield that does not possess a physical form. It has all the "Seishitsu Henka" (Element modifying ability) capabilities and can nullify all jutsu by changing its own elemental nature accordingly.
 * or

Yata no Kagami (Sword of Yata) - An incorporeal shield. It possesses all the chakra qualities (elements) and is able to render any attack vain by changing its own quality accordingly

Is that true? I mean, is it confirm in the Databook 3 Page 274-275?

Double Sharingan?
I know Sasuke has the Double sharingan and he said that only those who can control the double sharingan can summon susanoo but why did Itachi have susanoo he didn't have a double sharingan. Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 17:05, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * You misunderstand. Using Susanoo requires mastering the Mangekyo Sharingan one has in each eye. Itachi did that, and now so has Sasuke. ~SnapperTo 17:31, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh ok that makes sense i was confused by that.Kyuubinaruto123 (talk) 17:34, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Actually i can explain what Sauske meant. As stated many times, both Itachi and Sauske have Amaterasu in one eye and Tsukuyomi in the other eye. Logically, if a user focuses on only one of these techniques, he wouldn't be skilled in the other(Meaning he'd only be skilled in one of his eyes) However, once a user of the Mangekyo Sharingan masters both of these eye techniques, it means that he has mastered both of his eyes, making him able to use a third technique: Susanoo

Also, i studied it a bit more, and, Amaterasu is put down as a Ninjutsu, where Tsukuyomi is labeled a Genjutsu. Many times have i heard people refer to Susanoo as a Ninjutsu/Genjutsu. Where I'm getting at is that by mastering the Mangekyo's 2 eye's, one of ninjutsu and one of genjutsu, you unlock a third jutsu which is classified as Ninjutsu/Genjutsu. If you read my comment above, then this is all i have to say, so ya, this is what Sauske meant

Different Susano'o
As Sasuke has shown more affinity to the Amaterasu than Itachi, Itachi had shown more affinity to genjutsu.

The same way, Itachi has the eternal-genjutsu sword, while Sasuke can use an Amaterasu shield on Susano'o.

It seems pretty much that Sasuke's Susano'o is Amaterasu based, while Itachi's is Tsukuyomi based.

Although I am not sure how much this can be considered theory/speculation to be added to the article.

Ilovefoxes (talk) 22:01, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I want to congratulate you on having a great theory, however, i must say that it is not true. Sauske's Susanoo is not yet complete, and what appears to be the black flames of Amaterasu, is really just showing the huge amount of chakra that Susanoo has. Itahchi's and Sauske's Susanoo's are the same, I do not want to spoil anything for you, but i have chain connections to the creators, and Sauske's Susanoo with later evolve more, and later it will appear with the Sealing sword and the Mirror that Itachi's had. This is because Itachi implanted all of his eye techniques into Sauske. I know that a lot of people argue on that, but i found a literal translation, which has Madara Uchiha telling sauske that Itachi planted ALL of his eye techniques into sauske, possibly saying that Sauske may have many Mungeyko sharingan techniques, because he had itachi's 3 and possibly 3 of his own with his own mungeyko sharingan. We'll just have to see, but i assure you that he and Itachi's Susanoo's are the same and that Sauske's will later wield the mirror and sword that itachi's did.