Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180716193648/@comment-33286580-20180717202524

Vladosaurus wrote: Kyubified Naruto from VOTE1 was not fast as even 1 Gate Gai? What are you talking about...? 2-tomoe sharingan couldn`t see Naruto`s movements. 2-tomoe sharingan.3rd war Gai had nothing on that.Not even close.Again, what are you talking about? It`s ridiculous. And neither in strength.Kiuubi Naruto`s hits were sending Sasuke flying.Gai sucked.3rd war Gai would need at least 5th gate to be remotely comparable with VOTE Naruto in taijutsu. And i seriously doubt that Gai could have opened the 5th gate during the war in the first place. And in Sasuke`s time, fodders like pre-sharingan Obito or Rin wouldn`t have reached chunin level in 1000 years. Look at people like Neji or Sasuke or Naruto.Obito and Rin are not even remotely comparable with those 3 by the time they took the chunin exams. That was my point. And Neji for instance didn`t reach the chunin (simultaniously jonin) stat until he was like what, 16? This was my point. The ranks are useless.

And Kakashi might have been a jonin, but compared with Sasuke`s time jonin level ninja? It`s laughable. He was so much below even to those ninjas he was fighting in the 3rd war.

Yes. Kyubified Naruto isnt as fast as GateLee. i said so because no where it is said that Naruto was fast. so i am not going to think that he is. the fact that they specifically said in Lees fight that barely anyone other than the Jonin could follow Lee is that Lee was fast. nothing was said that Sasuke couldnot follow Naruto.

No. there is no mention that 2 tomoe Sharingan could not follow Kyubified Naruto. he simply said he was fast. nothing more. read the manga.

Again. Gai could use Gates. Gates is a major boost. the fact that Lee could barely bypass Gaara's sand, but with Gate boost could do so means Gate boost is really big. Dai thought Gai Gates early on in his career.

Again. Sasuke was boosted in VOTE1 by the mind awakening pill and the black fog. and yet he needed to use CS1 with all the boost to actually hurt base Naruto. and just so You KNOW KYUBIFIED NARUTO ACTUALLY PUNCHED SASUKE QUITE A FAIR DISTANCE ON THAT ONE PUNCH HE GOT IN. sasuke used his 3 tomoe Sharingan to dodge most of kyubified Naruto's attack.

Gai is taijutsu expert. His strong style is about speed and strength. and you for for some reason think he doesnt have streght even without Gates.jeez.

Obito and Rin were fighting in a war. they were fighting jonin-chunin level ninja. the guy that Obito and Kakashi tagteamed was apparently was a Jonin. Rin was a medic nin. she could make a transplant surgery in middle of a battlefield. they are not fodder. it is just that they have little to no feat.

Ranks may seem useless. but they are there. and people who attain a rank show certain quality. the only problem with Kakashi's generation is that we didnt see any of their feats during their younger days apart from Kakashi. it is why they are considered fodder, which they are not.