Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-142748-20160508212829

BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Ok guys enough with the undeserved Kakashi hype. One could argue that the fight could go either way with guys like Hidan or Deidara or Sasori. But every other Akatsuki member shits on Kakashi. I don't like that fact myself, as Kakashi is my all-time favourite Naruto character. But that doesn't change the hard, cold facts. Except its not 'undeserved'. Kakashi is simply a better fighter than Kisame due to superior intelligence, misdirection, bunshin feints, and having the elemental advantage. Plus the Sharingan and Kamui give him an edge that Kisame can't match.

And Deidara is arguably stronger than Kisame, given he has the elemental advantage, flight, intelligence, and speed on his side. Kisame can heal from most fatal injuries thanks to Samehada. He also has his bigass Moving Water Prison or whatever its called. Brains and strategies aren't going to do anything when nothing in Kakashi's arsenal is going to kill Kisame. A Raikiri to his heart might do it. But he's not getting past Kisame's water sharks and the bigass lakes he can create with less than 30% of his chakra. Even if he gets close enough to Kisame to land a raikiri, Samehada is still going to shave his chakra off. Just because Kakashi has lower chakra reserves doesn't mean Samehada will just sit there and not eat up Kakashi's chakra. I don't recall anything saying that Samehada only shaves off Bijuu level chakras. If so, feel free to correct me. Kisame can only heal when Samehada has consumed an extraordinary amount of chakra. He didn't regenerate from Asuma's slash to the cheek for instance. Nor did Samehada consume his trench knives Hien so your 'well Samehada will consume Raikiri' argument falls flat. Canonically, Samehada has trouble with pure ninjutsu techniques as shown when it didn't like cutting into Itachi's fireball.

The Water Prison technique is also not Kisame's casual technique, it can only be done AFTER he consumes a massive amount of chakra and adds it to his own.

Kisame beats Jinchuriki for the simple fact he perfectly counters them AND takes their biggest strengths and adds it to his own. But against ninja like Kakashi, Jiraiya, or Guy, that becomes a weakness since he can't adjust his level to fight them. 9 Arts dragon wrote: Yeah you guys had me at Nagato losing to Obito and team taka losing to Kakashi...

Need to catch to game of thrones so believe what you will Nagato would lose to Obito since Obito can phase through all of his attacks with ease. Seriously, you ignore how hax Kamui is since you hate Obito and downplay Kakashi.

And Kakashi absolutely destroys Taka (minus Sasuke). he utterly obliterates them all even as a group.