Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190907005521/@comment-36019309-20190930200316

Halcyonite wrote: Both your points for Pain being susceptible to Tsukuyomi are assumptions. Edo Tensei zombies and Rinnegan users are different. Just because Koto worked on Edo Itachi, doesn't mean a completely different genjutsu would work on a completely different person.

You make another assumption with Sasuke's Rinnegan assuming that those tomoes gave Sasuke the resistance to Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's tomoes in his Rinnegan allow access to his Mangekyo Sharingan abilities of the left eye, and also indicate how much chakra he has used up for the Rinnegan in a single fight. They disappear if he is too low on chakra, meaning that he has to wait for his power to recharge. When he gains more chakra, the tomoe reappear. In no way does it say in the manga that his tomoes have any other facets or abilities other than this.

Fair enough that the paths were under the sound genjutsu, despite being corpses. But that's it. There is so much evidence pointing to a Rinnegan wielder's resistance to visual genjutsu, and I have repeated it many times. Even though those three paths were under the sound genjutsu, the other three paths of Pain remained operational, leading to the sneak attack against Jiraiya towards the end of the fight, so your assumption that Nagato wouldn't know that some of the paths are under genjutsu in the first place is incorrect.

^^ All your points trying to argue that the Rinnegan doesn't resist visual genjutsu are assumptive and situational at best.

If it was that simple to put a Rinnegan user under genjutsu, edo Itachi would have done so against edo Nagato. This would have ended the fight so much quicker, and would have avoided Chibaku Tensei altogether. So your reasoning can't be because "Itachi didn't need to", meaning that the only logical explanation is that Itachi can't use visual genjutsu on a Rinnegan wielder.

My point with Edo Tensei zombies being resistant to Infinite Tsukuyomi (IT), is that just because Sasuke's Rinnegan was able to resist IT, doesn't mean the rinnegan is resistant to genjutsu in general. The only evidence that the rinnegan is resistant to genjutsu, is to a very specific genjutsu. It bears no weight on what MS genjutsu can do to a Rinnegan user and resistance to IT is the only evidence that could of been used to claim genjutsu resistance.

It's not an assumption, that Nagato's rinnegan hasn't proven to be resistant to genjutsu, in general.

Itachi could have thought Nagato couldn't deal with Amaterasu, that is until Nagato shinra tensei it. As for why he didn't put Nagato in genjutsu. Nagato wasn't shown to be looking in Itachi's eyes, when Nagato used Chibaku Tensei.