Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34752936-20180221075521/@comment-6769189-20180308011031

@Nashikaine: If you paid a bit of attention you would see i wasnt replying to you in the first part of the post.

You missed my point about the speed of KCM1 against 3rdRai. My point being that he doesnt need KCM1 speeds to handle 3rdRai because he isnt as fast as 4thRai. Not even close. What process of thought leads you to believe that Gai can't reach Sage Mode speeds?

Hirudora destroyed Susanoo.there are panels that show where the explosion happened and there is nothing but dust. And dont act like Edo Tensei wouldnt regen Madara by the time we did see him again. The explosion is as big as turtle island.

True reaction is how someone deals with a surprise or something unexpected. Because Naruto used prep time, planning, and timing does not mean he has good reaction time or reflexes. Frog Kata is not strong enough to replace the Rasengan.

As for Guy's speed Gaara claimed him to move at inhuman speeds in 7th Gate.

Also lifting strength =/= striking strength so Naruto tossing the rhino summon has little to do with how hard he punches.

6th Gate Guy is strong enough to one-shot 30% Kisame. This same guy was also strong enough to knock Saiken down. The only other time we seen someone do something comparable to this was when 1 Rinnegan Sage Mode Madara used Limbo. Sage Mode Naruto can't take a hit from that kind of strength.

7th Gate Guy one-shot full power Kisame while holding back. At minimum 7th Gate Guy is just above 3 times stronger than 6th Gate. SM Naruto isnt much of a match for that.