Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-6769189-20200515182230

Frwt wrote:

Ok for this one you're referring to this: https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/databook-collection-thread-part-i.496343/page-15#post-53211573, to me seems just that Madara was the strongest one in the clan, but not the strongets of all the Uchiha that ever existed He was said to be the strongest Uchiha. Period. Not stipulations like "of his generation" or "alive at the time"

Frwt wrote:

In what databook? Anyway even if Madara was the first to get EMS doesn't mean that he's more powerful than a MS Uchiha, we have Indra who had a susanoo bigger than Madara and only had MS Indra wasnt Uchiha. The Uchiha are the only descendants of Indra and Madara and Izuna were stated the be first to Uchiha to have MS.

Frwt wrote:

Yeah, again from the alive senju, tho in Hashirama's case his abilityes were only his, not related to the clan, so it also works out that he's the first in the world to have wood style, while on the regeneration the Uzumaki could contend with him I guess Again you are adding stipulations. Nowhere is it said that Hashirama was a special case only of his generation or Era. He was the first to be born with it, no if's and's or but's. It was one of the things that made him so powerful, and since he was the only person who could stand up to Madara's unprecedented power, that means no one before Hashirama had power like his

Frwt wrote:

Yeah cause they were the other reincarnation and you basically have aliens>reincarnations>humans Not sure what you are responding to

Frwt wrote:

I have no evidence for the claim that can erase far mountains, I'm juts talking about a valley here Yea, you have no evidence for that either.

Frwt wrote:

Nope, this large reserves aren't just normally large, they are either Uzumaki's or Hashirama's Any evidence to back that? I see no reason any character who had bijuu levels of chakra cant use Rinnegan

Frwt wrote:

It's not, Kurama doesn't listen to you if you, you first need to slap him in his place then he becomes a tsundere and you can behifirend him, Gyuki also didn't trust Naruto, he first had to demotrate his valus with his actions (as Kurama said) and then Gyuki gave him part of his power So the only Bijuu who is particularly hard to befriend is Kurama. Still not impossible.

Frwt wrote:

They can't, you need a rinnegan to control them and becoming a juubi jinchuriki Obito, Madara, and Hashirama didnt need Rinnegan to control them

Taking in ome chakra from all the Bijuu grants Six Paths Senjutsu so creating and sealing the Juubi in ones self isnt necessary

Frwt wrote:

Nagato had the rinnegan and could master all nature relases Not on his own. When Jiraiya met him he was a starbing orphan with no actual abilities.

Frwt wrote:

Minato is powerful he changed the outocome of a war and stopped kumo from getting Kurama, detructive capacity is useless if you can tag your opponent, you need it if you want to kill with AoD, but if Minato cat tag the enemy ninja then even just a kunai does the job Yea Minato did change the tide of the war but what if he came across untouchable enemies like 3rd Raikage? Or characters with regen abilities? Hit and run just doesnt work in them

Frwt wrote:

Didn't say I was ok with that, this is about Kurama, tho even with the bijuu he worked a bit at least for Gyuki That wasnt a counter argument inwas just laughing about it