Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32617252-20180624185603/@comment-26107879-20180630200310

It isn't fair that way, Orochimaru is severely weakened without a proper host. Pain did not back up your point. Your point was Hiruzen wasn't as strong as Pain. Pain has nothing to do with Orochimaru, therefore your point is irrelevant since this is about Minato and Orochimaru. 70 year old Hiruzen is relevant because he actually fought Orochimaru. Literally, Pain has nothing to do with either of these combatant. And the Manga literally states he's limited. Firstly, wood release and his regeneration was greatly enhanced by Zetsu's body. Secondly, it's stated if he doesn't have the proper host, his body rejects him and he gets severely weakened. It also stated that taxing Chakra enhances this weakness. So the more he uses, the more dangerous it becomes for him.