User talk:ShounenSuki

TheUltimate3 Corner
When you have the time, could you make the symbol on the Allied Forces' headband? We're going to need it now. Many thanks.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 23:08, November 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Been a while since I used this huh. Anyway, new chapter came up with two new Releases (yay.../sarcasm), Explosion Release and Scorching Release. I take it these are wrong.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 09:13, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * As well as new attacks that use them, Scorch Release: Steaming Slaughter, and Explosion Release: Landmine Punch. Again, I take these as wrong, correct?--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 09:17, December 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Many thanks and sorry to bother you with it.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 18:16, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

CHAPTER 515 TRANSLATIONS
The raw's finally out. I'll just leave this here ^^

the place where Madara's hideout is located is called the.

The divisions of the united shinobi forces are:


 * : Kankurō
 * Known members: Omoi, Sai
 * Known members: Omoi, Sai


 * : Shizune
 * Known members: —
 * Known members: —


 * : Inoichi Yamanaka
 * Known members: Aoba Yamashiro, Tenga
 * Known members: Aoba Yamashiro, Tenga


 * : Ao
 * Known members: C
 * Known members: C


 * : Gaara
 * : Gaara


 * : Darui
 * Known members: Chōza Akimichi, Tenten
 * Known members: Chōza Akimichi, Tenten


 * : Kitsuchi
 * Known members: Kurotsuchi, Neji Hyūga, Hinata Hyūga, Karui
 * Known members: Kurotsuchi, Neji Hyūga, Hinata Hyūga, Karui


 * : Kakashi Hatake
 * Known members: Sakura Haruno, Might Guy, Rock Lee
 * Known members: Sakura Haruno, Might Guy, Rock Lee


 * : Gaara
 * : Shikamaru Nara
 * Known members: Temari, Chōji Akimichi
 * Known members: Temari, Chōji Akimichi


 * : Mifune
 * Known members: Ino Yamanaka, Shino Aburame, Hana Inuzuka, Kiba Inuzuka
 * Known members: Ino Yamanaka, Shino Aburame, Hana Inuzuka, Kiba Inuzuka

Also, Kabuto uses the word when talking about the kage he summoned. This word almost always refers to the one's direct predecessor, making it highly unlikely that the unknown kage is not the Second Tsuchikage. —ShounenSuki (talk 04:47, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Other Wiki
Hey, ShounenSuki, what other series did you have interest in again? Any interest in Future Diary? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 8, 2010 @ 08:18 (UTC) 08:18, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Clan
OK this has been confusing me for awhile. Why do you and a few other users such as LeafShinobi and Omnibender keep reverting my simple edit of "Clan" back to "clan". It's really annoying and seems like you guys are doing it for no reason. It is grammatically correct. They are proper nouns because they mention a specific clan not a general sense of the word. I'm going to change them all back and if I see they are changed again I'm going to take more action. Simant has already agreed with me that he doesn't see the point in these edits. I'm goign to talk to the other users and get to the bottom of this, 19:56, November 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to fix my signature. Also this whole edit war is really pissing me off and you and 2 other users are the only ones who seem to disagree. I've talked to another admin and he really doesn't understand your reverts. Also I am not violating any poilcy and it is correct grammar. I've had enough of this. I'm goign to bring up a forum on this and hopefully this will cause all the grammar of clan in its proper sense to be used. I know the word itself isn't proper and that the names of the clans are, but it is a specific clan. When specifics are mentioned it is capitalized. New York City, the City of Philadelphia, etc. So if you are so skilled in English you should know this. Can we please stop edit warring.  00:29, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok fine I guess your argument makes sense. I guess the war is over. Where do you study out of curiousity? Also can you help me fix my signature?

Ranks
I don't understand how you want the format of the user input, could you elaborate? I can't put it in the same drop down as the rest. S im A nt 01:57, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Property:Ninja_Rank&action=history Also, what about characters who are jonin/chunin/etc AND ANBU (kakashi)?S im A nt 13:27, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The point of the link was that I tried to do that change a year ago and it was shot down (and someone else kept trying...). I'm willing to make the change, perhaps you could get Dantman's point of view before preceding since he was the one reverting. S im A nt 19:49, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

It has been done for awhile. S im A nt 19:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Can you please help me?
Hey, how are you??

I'm so so so sorry to bother you, but you see, I only have learned yesterday that the first translation to chap. 510 was messed up. Problem is, I was so used to that translation and had developed so many theories around it, that now I'm left completely confused about it. You see, I've looked for that chapter in onther 3 languages other than English. I've searched that chap. in spanish, portuguese and italian, and those 3 languages had the same problem with diff. trans. So I tried to look it up on the original japanese raw, except that I know absolutely nothing about it, and using online tranlation tools proved pointless and is driving me crazy.

My theory is that since he said on pag.12 that he is the only one that CAN be the second Rikudo, he admits that he, in fact, isnt yet. And well, considering his trademark arrogance, when he said that he is the only one that CAN be, truth is, he doesnt consider anyone else to have that power, or the possibility that not even himself will be able to actually become the second Rikudo. If all he had to do was join his Uchiha powers and the Senju's one, why would he have worked so hard to get Itachi and Sasuke to acheive the full power of the sharingan, and to go on such trouble for the Rinnegan? Plus, we saw what Nagato did to Konoha. Why Madara would ever trust Kabuto for his help, if he is now the most powerful shinobi that can be, as would be if he really is next Rikudo?

So I've found you as a reference to be a great tranlator in one of the forums, so here I am to ask you if will you please help me and say:

Is there ANY CHANCE, even the tiniest one, that this:

「お前は…三人目の六道…」 「うずまき一族末裔の証である赤い髪が白に変色するほど力を…」

could in ANY WAY be translated to:

"You... was the third Rikudô... powerful enough to even have changed the colour of your red hair, the proof of your being a descendent of the Uzumaki clan, into white..."

If you simply add a question mark to the end of that sentence, do you realize the difference that would really make? It would actually imply that the thrid Rikudo, was not Nagato, was the one that defeated him.

And while there's not an actual ??? at the end of that sentence, there is the ..., which could mean he wasn't done talking, but stoped once he realized Nagato was smiling, as you can see here:

http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-510-page-16.html

I know this could be total crap that I've created inside my head, and I'm ok to be proven wrong, honestly. I really just want to have no room left for doubt at all. Could you please help me?

I'm kind of new to this, and I was trying to contact you, and leave you a message, so I have no idea if it will work, or if you will answer me back. My email is chris_laviehamby@live.com, if you decide to answer me back ok? Sorry again to bother you, but as a Naruto fan, i hope you can understand. =)

--Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 16:23, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

I know you provided a translation before, but that is why I asked if it was simply possible that the words WAS and WERE could be placed in this sentence under different interpretations. From what i have found, on dictionaries, both words can be translated to the exact same kanjis, so the obvious word would be "You were", because "You... was", is gramatically wrong, but if the word WAS was used referring to a third person, the use would also be correct.

The only living beings that actually known the fist Rikudo, were the Bijuus, when he first created them, so how could you explain the fact that the Kyuubi reconizes/referes to Rikudo, when fighting Naruto? http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/499/p-14

Plus, the sign on his chest, when he fully takes control of Kyuubi: http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/499/p-12

Online Dictionaries are not really the most reliable source, but a person with complete understanding of the language, and of the context, is.I've been provided with so many different translations by now that I'm just asking if it is possible. --Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 19:31, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Earth Release: Tunneling Like Mole Technique
Hey, I think I have a potential new earth jutsu that has been overlooked, but I though I would get your approval first since it will be my first page that I make.

While working on Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique, I found a tunneling earth release that did not fit:. First, it was a lot larger than the previously shown. I admit that the previous example may merely been an attempt to use less energy, but even then the tunnel seems rather big as it is too low to stand, but has to much space overhead for just crouching. I realize this may be put down as just artistic license, but their is also the Second point, Hiding like a Mole says: "This technique changes earth into fine sand by channeling chakra into it, allowing the user to dig through it like a mole," and here there is no sand.

Does this seem sufficient for a new jutsu? Akatsuchi (talk) 17:18, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the name and the support. Akatsuchi (talk) 00:38, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you so much for clarifying this for me. I HATE Madara, therefore to me it doesnt make any sense that he would get to be this powerful. You are completely right, Kishimoto would have left something a bit more obvious, or other clues on different ocasions.I guess I was just one of those people desperate to hold on to the possibility of Naruto being the next Rikudo, hehe.

Thank you for your patience and for taking the time to aswer me. =)

P.S.: I just want to make it clear that I wasn't doubting the accuracy of you as a translator before, but like you said, I thought it could be just a possible play on words.That's why I came to you to ask this. I really think you are a great translator.

--Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 13:25, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Female Aburame member
So she is either Muta or Ranka. When you can, could you find out the japanese for them? Perhaps that would give insight into which is her name. S im A nt 21:29, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Edo tensei information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi man my name is Sharingan Itachi and I am a member....Any way I wanted to talk to u about the edo tensei. I did add some information at the article in the past weeks and what I did add is that the edo tensei summons wont be dispersed even by killing the user but I founded out that the information I added was deleted. So if u do not share the same idea as me please check the manga 121 page 2, if u find out that what I'm saying is correct please tell me what to do since it was deleted I mean is there a way that we can write something that can't be deleted. Sharingan Itachi (talk) 13:08, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

A Few Questions!!
I am a new member here as u see, but I know a lot about naruto and I plan to be a good editor on the site, you seem to be an old member and with good knowledge so I thought to ask you some questions, after reading the policies I got a little bit distracted so please can you answer these questions: 1) Do I have to put personal information on my page? 2) Do I have to talk about every thing I've changed or edit on the site? 3) Can I put the reference on the article so it can be read by any one or do I use this while editing, which I used in the edo tensei, kimimaro articles.

I am having a little bit of trouble with knowing the site because I'm new but I am known for my dedication and my love for perfection and certainly my love to naruto, I know every about the manga but not every thing about the anime since I hate fillers, I thought it was good to say this because I like every thing to be clear. Thank you for your time and effort.Sharingan Itachi (talk) 14:11, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Text
Hey, Suki-senpai, since you've been appearing a lot this week, I want to catch you before you get busy again. Were you able to get the translations back for the other two doujinshis?

I also came to ask you something. You know in most mangas and stuff that they don't always state things like thoughts out of talk bubbles and to the side? Well, when you give me the translations, I'm going to save a copy of the doujinshis' pages and replace them with your translated text. Thing is, I'm not very good at that.

I use Paint to erase and replace it, but that was pain in the butt. So I figured since you seem to know about translation and things, I want to ask you three things; First, what text do most manga use for talkbubbles, Arial or Roman? Two, is there a way for me to replace the Japanese text with the English without ruining the background of a page? Is there an easier way for me to replace Japanest text with the English, besides using Paint?

Do you understand what I'm saying? Sorry if I'm confusing you.-- Ninja Sheik  23:21, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ino's Eyes
Hi Shounensuki, I replied you on the talk page of Ino about her eyes :)

Geography Page
I left another reply on the Geography Page discussion--SkyFlicker (talk) 04:26, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

"Iwagakure, the old village in the Land of Earth, is the Rock. Ishi, the new village in the unnamed country is the Stone. Both are the same kind of material, only stones are smaller than rocks. There is no reason to ever use stone for Iwagakure or rock for Ishigakure and there never has been. Whoever does this is simply being silly." I guess it is just Viz screwing up the translations again then, since Iwagakure's page says "English TV 'Hidden Stone Village'". Wonder how they will correct that once the dubs progress to the current point in the anime, haha. SkyFlicker (talk) 22:09, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Help with a Diagram for a Theory
I need help with a diagram →. In this diagram, it's similar to the one I asked for help with before, but with Blaze, Dark, Steel, and Swift in the question-marked spaces, and elements like Wood and Boil on the circle instead on straight lines. Then I divided the entire diagram into two parts with a way line like the one in a Yin/Yang diagram placing certain elements on the black and others on the white. I hope the list of instructions is easy to understand. Thanks, appreciate your help! --GoDai (talk) 00:31, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's extremely similar, but can you change the Yin-Yang around a bit so that Boil, Ice, and Lava end up in the "head" of the white, and Earth and Steel in the "tail"? Storm should end up on the curved line, but more on the black side, in the "head", with Dust and Ligtning, and Fire, Dark, and Blaze should be in the "tail" of the black.

My theory here has details. It's actually turned out better than I thought, despite my horrible directions. I think if you mirror/flip the Yin-Yang to "spin" in the other direction and turn it around a bit, it would work. (By the way, the idea was to split them up into "Matter" and "Energy", it magically works.) Thanks!--GoDai (talk) 02:20, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Looks really awesome. No kidding. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 02:41, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha that was actually an idea I had beacause Dust controls molecules, and therefore could be matter, but I decided it was more like "a solid Wind that reduces anything into molecule-sized dust" rather than the dust itself, but you could make 2 different versions, one where the Dust is a Yang element in the spot, and another one where there are no spots on either side, and dust is a Yin element. Thanks for the help! --GoDai (talk) 02:52, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm although that does take away the "magic", I kinda like this one better because it is much more accurate. I think it's perfect. I'll just note it's a more accurate variation. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 02:46, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Anko's team
They gave a term for Anko's team, they said it when the alliance got intel from them. It should be good to make a team page. Since they sort of got there by being a team to track Kabuto, would that mean that Sai and Yamato are also members, from way back in the Invasion of Pain? On a sort of related note, why do you think Ranka might not be an Aburame? She used insects (granted, it was different from everything we ever saw an Aburame do), has the standard "look" of an Aburame, and she was along with Shino and Shibi when they fought Konan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:53, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I totally misunderstood why you thought it might not be Ranka, I didn't consider the fact we might actually have the names switched at the moment. In an unrelated note, can you protect Itachi's page? Someone insists in changing Itachi's last words and because the IP changes with every edit, I can't simply rollback it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:19, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ignore to Itachi thing, Simant already did it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:21, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Itachi's Last Words
Hello, and excuse me, but I really feel that "It ends with this." doesn't make AS much sense as "This is the last time.", because Itachi always said "Maybe next time." Thus, making it more poignant than "It ends with this." And also "This is the last time." is a more accurate translation of "Kore ga saigo da."

Now that the page has been protected, I can't do anything about it. Please, I implore you, is there anything you can do to change it?


 * First of all, "it ends with this" is a more accurate translation of the Japanese text. Second and last of all, saying "it ends with this" makes as much sense as saying "this is the last time." The Japanese phrases are completely different, why make the English ones more similar? —ShounenSuki (talk 09:55, November 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I don't understand how "It ends with this" is more accurate. "Saigo" is supposed to mean "last" isn't it? Although I can get that it may also mean "the end". But I don't understand where the "with this" comes from. Also I meant 'making sense' context-wise. "Next time" moving on to "last time" would make more sense than "next time" to "ends with this". Doesn't "last time" sound more consistent? I'm sorry if I sound so persistent, but I just feel strongly about this.
 * The most literal translation of the Japanese text would be "with this, [it is] the end." converted to proper English, it becomes "it end with this." The "with this" part comes from the これで, which could also be translated as 'here'. The consistency you're trying to force in here simply doesn't exist in Japanese. There is no need to put it in the English. Especially if it means taking liberties with the translation.
 * This is an encyclopædia, which means we're trying to convey information as accurately as possible. If we were translating for an English release of the manga, I'd agree with you without question, but it's simply not what this site is going for. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:04, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you so very much, Suki-senpai! I really owe you one! And remember, if you need any help with your translation or just plain curious about it for the Naruto Offcial Fanbook, just tell me! It'll be my pleasure to help you.

Oh, by the way, do you know where I can edit the doujinshi pages to replace it with the English context? I hate using Paint, but it's the only thing I got.-- Ninja Sheik  22:36, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

PhotoShop I know about quite well. Everyone uses it to create art and doujinshi. My aunt uses to make cards and poster for her baking busisness. She even told me that it was free, but I alos thought you had to buy it.

Thanks for the link, Suki-senpai! So, tell me, did you have fun reading the translations when you were working on them?-- Ninja Sheik  23:05, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Moyagakure
ShounenSuki-sama could you make a picture about the symbol of Moyagakure? What program do you use to make your excellent images .svg? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 21:20, November 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Will you make a symbol Moyagakure? Why Shimogakure was added to World Map? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 05:39, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ch. 460 translations.
A while ago I started a debate on how serious the Lightning Release Armor was, and in the end there was not enough for me to go on. Recently though I got the manga, and wording differed. Darui says: 'Lord Raikage, you're not...!?,' and C says to himself 'He's serious!' This shows great panic on their parts with the jutsu, but the manga has had translating trouble before, and I would say the online stuff is generally more accurate. Could you check that page in the raw? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 02:18, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Edits that need to be made
Since you seem to edit a lot of the major pages and be such a important contributor, the Summoning:_Triple_Rashōmon page and the Nine-Tailed_Fox_Menacing_Ball page both have links to episode 42 of naruto, not shippuden. I would change the pages myself, but i don't know how.
 * Fixed. S im A nt 20:34, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Clan symbols
Looking over the unknown clan symbols you aded earlier. I was on another page when I noticed something. Start Your Engines: The Chūnin Exam Begins! If you check one of the guys in the picture near the front on the right, the back of his shirt is marked with one of those symbols. Just figured it'd be something interesting to note. ^_^ --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 19:29, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Manga
Where I can read the manga in japanese? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 00:32, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Chapter is already out?
Where? Or are you going from the RAW for the techs?--NaruHina fan (talk) 21:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Can you tell me how the chapter is?--NaruHina fan (talk) 21:18, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Eyes
I was watching your pictures and I asked me why you didn't make the eye of the Kyubi and Rokubi. Are you going to do? --190.230.217.233 (talk) 23:46, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there something special about their eyes then? —ShounenSuki (talk 23:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Help
Hey, Suki-senpai, sorry to bother you on Thanksgiving, but I need your help. Remember the three mini doujinshis I asked you to translate for me? I'm having trouble trying to replace the Japanese content with the English translation you given me. I've been watching tutorials on YouTube and such to give me a clear outlook on how to replace the Japanese context like a pro, but I can't download PhotoShop free trails because it says I take up too much disk space on my computer.

I downloaded PaintShop Pro once, but I got so confused with everything. So...I want to ask you...Do you know someone that could translate the doujinshis for me, or can you tell me how to work PaintShop?-- Ninja Sheik  20:46, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sasori's Stats
hi, i read sasoris stats on his page, and he was given, if i recall correctly, a 4 in genjutsu and speed. he has not really shown a lot of either, especially genjutsu, so are you the one who can change that? if not, is there a reason for these stats being put in? like proof of him deserving these scores?

so if the third databook was written by kishimoto himself, and it says that sasori gets, iirc, a 4 in speed and genjutsu, then he really is that dept in that just hasnt shown it much? pretty cool.

For shonensuki
Thanks man,I wanted to join for so long but I had problems.Narutopedia is number one life source for me.I learned so much here.I have some infos like that Sakura is name of girl from manga of Sarutobi Sasuke and that kishimoto sempai probably took that name bec ouse he stated that he just boroved sasukes name from shimpai shiratos manga.Narutopedia was a glence of light for me in all those cold days so lets discus...YamatoTakeru (talk) 20:28, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sword
In chapter 399 on page 10 were some swords around Hashirama, but I'm not absolutely sure if they were his.--LeafShinobi (talk) 17:28, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 12:44, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tsunami
How at the end of chapter 19 Tsunami mentioned Kaiza? As a husband or as a lover?--LeafShinobi (talk) 17:30, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 12:44, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Itachi
Hey ShounenSuki

Ive got a questiong about Sasuke Uchiha. How come on his family, Itachi Uchiha isnt on the "family" section? Only his farther and mother. I haven't got the authority to change it, but maybe you do.

Or is itachi not on there for a reason?

Thanks.

-Daniel-

Hinata is missing
yo on the team 8 page hinata is not listed in the info box for the team oddly enough the dog is neway tried to edit it but the infobox is broken and it cant be edited in page edit ether y i dont know tried about 6 ways to change but couldn't hope u have an idea. i told someone else about it but they had the same problem hope u can helpTwinRisingDragons (talk) 14:32, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nature Icons
Have you considered changing the Storm icon to a brighter colour, like a lighter yellow? Darui was seen using a bright energy and I think the dark colour seems too... movie-based, and more reminiscent of a literal storm. Also, it doesn't display the kanji so nicely, in my opinion. Also, are you thinking of making a "溶" icon for the possibility of a Dissoultion(溶解; Yōkai) Nature and Dissolution Release (溶遁)? I mean, even if it was still Lava, but a different kind (as you suggested), a different symbol may help. Perhaps you could put both of the icons for "熔" and "溶" on the Lava page for now? Seeing how you prepared an "爆" icon for the Explosion Release case, this would be logical also. --GoDai (talk) 02:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ah well I see that makes sense also. It just sometimes it hard to see the kanji itself, but I guess that's fine then. Kay, thanks! --GoDai (talk) 08:46, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, nice. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 23:39, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Rinnegan and Six Paths abilities
I was just thinking, isn't "the Six Paths of Pain" just a term referring to Nagato's reanimated bodies which possessed different portions of his abilities? I'm not quite sure where I saw details on this, but isn't it rather that the Rinnegan allows you to use a brand of techniques known as the "Seven Paths" abilities, and each branch of this series was "imbued" in a way to each reanimated corpse? I think the "Seven Paths abilities" would be portrayed as something like Deva controlling gravity and repulsion, Asura using chakra as a destructive force (like Jūgo), Human using the Soul Removal, Animal focusing around summoning other reanimated animals, Preta using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal, Naraka summoning and using the King of Hell, and Outer being able to use Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique. So wouldn't mentioning this series of abilities on the Rinnegan page be more effective?

Every time I look at the page for the Outer Path, I feel that there is a mistake, because it is extremely strange that the King of Hell(Naraka), Yama, is being portrayed as the Outer Path. I think someone else displayed better knowledge of the Six Realms of Samsara on the talk page for the Outer Path. --GoDai (talk) 09:15, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that each of the bodies had a "Six Paths" ability and the Outer Path was simply not "given" to a body. I think there's some symbolic meaning here, as Nagato "fell onto the Outer Path" when he was angered by Yahiko's death and chose to get revenge, instead of working towards peace in the "Inner Path" of the Six Paths. He synchronized with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path at that moment, which could signify his fall. I think the fact that the statue is used to seal Tailed Beasts, fragments of the first evil, the Ten-Tailed Beast, is implying that it is to represent an "impure" or "unholy" nature. The Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique probably resurrects those who have died due to the user's actions, as Kakashi my have died through chakra overuse, but that happened due to Nagato's actions. I'm thinking the souls were "wrongfully" taken to hell, or the area the King of Hell leads to, as Nagato is the one who truely could decide what was right and wrong there, and when he changed his mind and view, he decided to release those souls. --GoDai (talk) 01:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

how is ur day so far
how is your day at school going for you or at home maybe your not in school maybe you have work and kids so tell me how old r u and what would you like to talk bout?

Talk page link help
I noticed Omnibender had linked his page to a talk page. Can you help me link the talk page User_talk:GoDai/GoDai_Seishitsu_Henka,_Combinations,_and_Theories to the page User:GoDai/GoDai_Seishitsu_Henka,_Combinations,_and_Theories? --GoDai (talk) 09:14, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Masashi Kishimoto - Assistants
Is it possible for you to make a list of Masashi Kishimoto manga assistants? They should also have articles on the wiki. S im A nt 02:28, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is why I asked you, I knew you could do it. :) S im A nt 01:22, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke vs Kakashi
Do you know what manga chapter or episode sasuke fights kakashi on naruto shippuden?I'm a big naruto fan and i wanna know what i asked you.So if you can tell me,thanks
 * I can take care of this. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:02, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Comparison
Hi, Suki-senpai! How're you doing lately? I was wondering if you could tell me something. I know you translate the Naruto Offcial Fanbook, and since I have the offcial English copy...I want to do some comparison between a certain page(s).

You see...In the Naruto Official Fanbook, on page 159, there's a section called "Yamanaka Ino's Flower Fortune". On that page is a list of flowers; 1. Morning Glory; 2. Dandelion; 3. Freesia; 4. Dephne; 5. Sweet Pea; and 6. Chrysanthemum. On the next page, page 160, have the results of your fortune, which tells you more of your personality and who you are most like in Naruto. There's also a chart on that same page that holds the meanings to each flower in the language of flowers. I want to see what your translations say compare to the English copy.

But before we do this...Pick a flower! I want to see your fortune, Suki-senpai! Pretty please with a Naruto cherry on top?

Oh, yeah...I almost forgot. No peaking at your translations (Hint-Hint: Don't choose number 6).-- Ninja Sheik  00:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Second Fanbook reference
Can you tell me in which page Danzō is referenced as Candidate Sixth Hokage? Wikipedia insists on listing him as a full Hokage, and the only thing I'm missing in the book reference is the page number. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:59, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hyuga Traitor
I normally read this on mangastream but I different site to read previous chapters. I was going throught the 5 Kage Summit and this caught my eye. I am not sure if it is a mis-translation. The way it reads to me, makes it look like there was a traitor in the hyuga clan, leaking the dojutsu out.

"I had no idea there was another byakugan out there. We should have killed that traitor hyuga sooner"

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/461/10

Danzo said it, Chapter 631, Page 10, cell 5

What do you think to this?

SharinganMike (talk) 12:16, December 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * He was referring to the Hyuga that Ao killed/defeated. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 03:25, December 10, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi


 * That is what I originally thought. But being killed on active duty for your village shouldn't make them a traitor. And with the words "another byakugan" and traitor - to me - indicated there was a a Hyuga leaking the byakugan out. This is why I want to know if it is a mis-translation. It might sound wierd, but a bit of clarity shouldn't be too much to ask for. SharinganMike (talk) 10:38, December 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for my late reply ^^
 * Danzō isn't saying the Hyūga Ao took his Byakugan from was a traitor. Instead, he's saying that he never expected a Byakugan to end up outside of Konoha, because any possible Hyūga traitors would be killed before they even managed to get away. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:18, December 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Danzō isn't saying the Hyūga Ao took his Byakugan from was a traitor. Instead, he's saying that he never expected a Byakugan to end up outside of Konoha, because any possible Hyūga traitors would be killed before they even managed to get away. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:18, December 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I knew the Hyuga Ao killed was of the main family, but that was it. Thank you for clearing that up. ShounenSuki ftw! SharinganMike (talk) 16:07, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Use of the Dissolution Icon
Hmmm should we add it to pages such as Mei Terumī, Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique, and Lava Release: Lava Globs in place of the current icon and place both and 熔 and 溶 icons in Lava Release? Like you said, they may be different kinds of Lava Release, one for Yonbi&Kurotsuchi and other for Mei. I think we should have certain icons in character's pages depending on which kanji they used, like how we have different Mangekyō Sharingan icons for each user.

Also, could you change those? I never figured out how to add different icons into infoboxes. Finally, could you help me with linking certain pages? I mentioned it above. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 03:21, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

I see. Now I'm kinda thinking leaving it might be best until some confirmation comes up. --GoDai (talk) 22:44, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Translation of kanji to romaji
hi ShounenSuki, my name's Gaara and I work for the German Narutopedia. It's my job to translate Japanese titles and such, but I encountered a problem while doing that. For example if I want to translate 大連隊, would it be Dai Rentai or Dairentai? Or another example: 性質変化 - Seishitsu Henka or Seishitsuhenka? So, what I want to know from you is the rule for translating kanji to romaji, where to put spaces and all. I really hope you can help me on that matter, it's bothering me for a while now^^ -- Gaara 15:18, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll just answer you here, I guess.
 * Basically, there is no rule for how to space rōmaji. Just do what you feel is most natural. It's been ages since I last had German in school, but I do remember it is similar to Dutch when it comes to stringing words together to form very long words. So taking that into account, Dairentai and Seishitsuhenka would seem more natural. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:50, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Potentially Problematic
I read the script for 521 earlier today, and by read I mean either putting it in google translate, trying to make sense of it or seeing translations done by other people. There was a potentially problematic use 秘 in a character's technique. You probably know the one, I've seen some translations by you already. Any idea on why Kishimoto would do that? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Seen it, though the scanlation I found listed it as "special jutsu". But is it the very same technique? Back then it was written with 晶, and if the spoilers are correct, this time it's written with 昌. I can't help to think this might be yet another case of homophone techniques, as it was with Jukai Kōtan and Mizurappa. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:30, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Magaki group
If you have some time over, could you take a look at Shippuden episode 145 and translate what the Magaki are saying when they are using Destructive Barrier Formation? Should be around minute 16:00-17:00. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:44, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Barrier kanji
In chapter 520, Ao and the Sensor Division are using something which is very much like the Boundary Barrier. There are four kanji around it. What do they say? They're not the ones seen on the barrier when the Deva Path looked at it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why Killer Bee and not Killer B?
Hi ShounenSuki, it's me again. Sorry to bother you for the second time but I have another urgent question to ask. As you can see in the headline, it's a simple question: Why is Killer Bee/Killerbee the correct translation and not Killer B? The Katakana are the ones used for the letter B and not Bee. So why's Bee correct? Seelentau 愛議 18:43, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * On a different matter, I just noticed that you missed two hiragana in your translation of the five basic elemental natures. The correct translation of 五大基本性質 is Godai Kihon Seishitsu, I think. Seelentau 愛議 21:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * 'Killer B' is the correct translation if you ask me. The reason we still use 'Killer Bee' on this wiki is because other editors were reluctant to switch and I never really bothered to bring it up again. I must note, however, that we never were given an official translation. That won't come until the next databook, I'm afraid.
 * The databook uses 五大性質変化 and not 五大基本性質. I can't actually remember ever seeing 五大基本性質 either, but I could be mistaken. Do you have a source? Also, I would have missed two kanji and not two hiragana ^^ —ShounenSuki (talk 22:24, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you for clarifing that. You've used 五大基本性質 here and no, you just missed to write down the "Sei" of "Seishitsu" in your translation. No kanji/kana missing^^ Seelentau 愛議 22:35, December 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing that mistake out to me ^^ —ShounenSuki (talk 22:47, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Onmyouton and Izanagi
Hi, it's me again. I joined the wiki, as you might see :D So, I was wondering if Onmyouton is an element such as Katon or if it's a mixed element such as Mokuton. If it's a normal element, which sound logic cause Nagato learned it, then what are Inton and Youton? The article states that Onmyouton is the simultan use of Inton and Youton, but wouldn't it be a mixed element? If that's the case, why does it count as a normal element? Oh and if the Izanagi-article is correct, wouldn't Izanagi BE Onmyouton itself, since it was created by using Inton and Youton simultaneously? I know these are kind of stupid questions, but I think it needs more clarification and you're probably the only one who could explain this to me^^ Seelentau 愛議 00:48, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, but when the RS used Yin and Yang to create Onmyou and the result was Izanagi as said in the article, it would be just logical that Izanagi = Onmyouton, right? But you're right, it's all still too unknown to make exact statements about that. Seelentau 愛議 01:18, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Talk Page
Hey. Will you leave me alone. Stop messing around on my talk page. --TheDarkUchiha189 (talk) 01:25, December 18, 2010 (UTC)TheDarkUchiha189

Just stop editing my talk page. IT'S NOT YOURS TO EDIT. The stuff on there is taking up space. Now beat it. --TheDarkUchiha189 (talk) 01:33, December 18, 2010 (UTC)TheDarkUchiha189

Counterbalancing!
Should the counterbalancing be mentioned in the Nature Transformation page? I think it's interesting that if two techniques of the same Nature hit each other, the stronger one would absorb the weaker. Also, about the Yata Mirror, if a Fire technique hits it, does it become Fire (reflects) or Water (overpowers)? Also, if a non-elemental technique hits it, does it simply "answer" with the best nature? --GoDai (talk) 23:32, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Few more questions. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 03:50, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * So if you were to add a section about Counterbalancing, would you just copy and paste the info from the databook?
 * Also, about the "Speculation" part in the Advanced Natures section, was that removed due to it being unnecessary? Can things like Sand and Iron Sand(magnetic nature) be mentioned in the Trivia?
 * "Nature Transformation" means "Property Change," right? So the "Advanced Natures" are simply types of chakra with the properties of two elements, rather than a literal "combination of elements?"
 * Do you think it's likely that there will be more than 10 simultaneous natures? Depending on if "溶遁" and "爆遁" are separate natures or not, there could be 11~13 natures. With 7~9 confirmed canon, and now it seems Kishi has thrown in the kekkei genkai-bearers from the movie, which possibly means 3~4 natures could be added. Maybe which nature is in which hand matters, and there are about 20?
 * Is it ever implied that there may be "Minor natures" that can be used by common people? I mean, Toad Oil Bullet (and Jiraiya's other toad oil techniques) states the user converts their chakra into oil, which is literally changing the nature of the chakra into that of oil (much like what happens in Earth and Water Release techniques), although it's obviously not an Advanced Nature, and it's even ranked. Similarities are also seen in Poison Mist and other techniques which I can't think of where the user spits out their chakra converted into a different form.

Looking for a kanji
Hi Suki-san, I'm looking for a kanji. It's a kanji for the word "concept" (そう, Sou), but it seems pretty rare since I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet. You can see it in the Sha no Sho (I guess you own the Japanese version), it's on page 10. Could you please give it to me? :) Seelentau 愛議 13:35, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I meant, thank you :) The translation isn't mine, it's from a translator of Sha no Sho in the mangahelpers-forum ;) Seelentau 愛議 22:20, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Use of Trivia for Speculation
Is it possible to mention presumed component natures or theories in pages such as Blaze Release and Dust Release if they are well-justified? I mean, that could also get people to think twice before they edit Wind into Dust and other things like that. --GoDai (talk) 05:40, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

The 流 kanji
How exactly to tell when it means "flow" and when it means "style", is it the context? I see this kanji is used in at least four Earth Release techniques. Two "Earth Flow" by Yamato, and two by Hiruzen, one of them being anime-only. In episode 192 of Shippūden, a Kumogakure guy uses a technique, the rōmaji (from what I could figure) being "Doton: Doryūha", which in kanji I think would be "土遁・土流波". Crunchyroll subbed it as "Earth Style: Mud Wave". I know "土" can be used to describe mud, but the technique doesn't look like mud at all. Would the translation be "Earth Release: Earth Style Wave" or "Earth Release: Earth Flow Wave", or even something else? The guy later uses something it was subbed as "mud needles", sounding like "retsudo" and then something like denshin/tenshin/teishin. The retsudo I got because it's the same as Earth Release: Tearing Earth Turning Palm, but I can't get the rest. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:55, December 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think it's definitely doryū, you can tell the difference between the sounds. Plus, it wouldn't be the first time the anime made a technique with doryū in it. The flow would also be more appropriate, it's similar in looks to Guren's crystal dragon, only not looking like a dragon, plus it also branches from the main earth portion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:32, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Response
I'm sorry about the article I made, but I wan't planning on making it permanent. Even though the "Eternal" Mangekyō Sharingan is just the Mangekyō Sharingan I wanted to see if I could list it as another kekkei genkai. This was so that characters like Madara and Sasuke could also have it on their list of kekkei genkai in their infoboxes. I guess it was unnecessary. As for the image upload it was so that thier icons would appear with the kekkei genkai when it was listed in their infoboxes. I had to upload it because I could not find the image that was already uploaded in the search. So there is my reasoning. Also I still do not understand your explanation why all kenjutsu is automatically ninjutsu. Does it create some impossible effect like shadow clones or use chakra like Rasengan? Seriously it just requires a sword and skill. I don't see how it is ninjutsu. Sasuke's Chidori Katana is an example of both ninjutsu and kenjutsu used at once. All the other kenjutsu is just tools like you said. So it's not ninjutsu. Samurai use kenjutsu and they are not ninja.

I suggest you look at the response I sent to SnapperTo.

Omake chapters
So wher are these chapters? In first and third databook and in second fanbook?--LeafShinobi (talk) 18:38, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Natures and Stuff
Oh, if you see my theory page User:GoDai/GoDai Seishitsu Henka, Combinations, and Theories and scroll down to "1.6 Pattern Theory," the part about "Opposite Natures" show things similar to what you mentioned. I theorize that since Ice has both the properties of Water and Wind, it would be either: So in that theory, the related pairs are: Fire and Ice, Wind and (Fire+Lightning), Lightning and Dust(if it is Earth+Wind), Earth and Storm, and Water and Lava. My current idea is that: About the Bakuton thing, I have several ideas. I'm guessing Deidara stole the Iwagakure Kinjutsu to infuse his "art" with explosive chakra, and his explosive chakra itself did not originate from the kinjutsu. Therefore, Exploding Clay would actually have two parent jutsu: The "Iwagakure Kinjutsu" and the "Explosion Release". Since Lightning techniques could diffuse his clay bombs, it would be either overpowering and counterbalancing in effect, meaning it must contain either Earth or Lightning as you stated. Unless Sasuke's Lightning disappeared after diffusing them or something, it probably does not contain Wind, which would overpower Lightning. Ignoring the slight possibility of there being more than 10 possible combinations, it would probably be either Earth+Lightning or Lightning+Fire, although the other remaining combinations are also imaginable. There are a few notable examples: Also, Earth(clay) is the container for Deidara's explosive chakra, and Lightning is powerful against his Exploding Clay. Also, Sasuke noticed Deidara using the Snake seal for his techniques, suggesting they are Earth-related. The Earth itself may be a component of the explosive chakra, or simply a container for it.
 * 1. Equally opposed with Fire, as Ice possesses both the strength and weakness of Fire (This works if Fire is only strong against Wind but does not "remove" its presence). This states that "Ice←→Fire."
 * 2. Weak against Fire, as Fire would "eliminate" the Wind property, leaving only the Water nature, which in turn would extinguish the Fire. Simply put, Fire melts the Ice, which in becomes Water turn puts the Fire out (However, this would only work if Fire actually "destroys" or "removes" the Wind property). This idea states that "Ice+Fire=Water."
 * I mentioned in that theory that Haku stated the level of Sasuke's Fire was not enough to melt his Ice.
 * In Lava, I mentioned that Kisame's Water could cool Rōshi's Lava. I also noticed more confirmation when Kurotsuchi used the Lava Release: Quicklime Congealing Technique and the Water Release: Water Trumpet together to form cement(Earth). If my theory is correct, what happened with the chakra is "The Water nature removed the Fire nature in the Lava, leaving only Earth" and simply put, the Water cooled the Lava into Earth, which would then have absorbed the Water.
 * Fire would melt Ice (leaving Water)
 * Wind does something to (Fire+Lightning) to only leave Fire
 * Lightning disrupts Dust's solid shape, dispersing it into Wind again
 * Earth would "filter" Storm (e.g. Storm Release: Laser Circus enters Earth Release: Earth Style Wall through one side, and something resembling Lightning Release: Wave of Inspiration exits out the other way, destroying the wall)
 * Water would cool Lava (leaving Earth)
 * Fire is known to cause either burning or exploding effects. e.g. Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
 * Wind is able to cause explosions, often through pressure-related effects. e.g. Wind Release: Rasenshuriken (although I actually cannot imagine a better example at the moment)
 * Lightning creates energy for explosions, as Kirin displayed when it destroyed the Abandoned Uchiha Hideout.

One idea I want to throw out is that perhaps Deidara's "kekkei genkai" is mostly unusable due to its explosive nature, endangering the user. Maybe it explodes when released outside of the body, and Deidara had to steal the kinjutsu so he could add his explosive chakra into other objects, creating bombs, and therefore "perfecting his art" by putting the explosive chakra into use. Maybe they are a clan of suicide bombers (?!). --GoDai (talk) 23:13, December 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Haha thanks. I just hope not all members of the clan have the kekkei genkai as a dominant gene, just for the survivability XD. I hope the next chapter will actually cover their kekkei genkai, and considering the fact that Pakura and Gari strongly resemble the characters from the 6th movie, Kishi may decide to keep the same names of the kekkei genkai (Dark, Steel, and Swift Releases), but I really hope he will change the effects, as I must admit the abilities they displayed in the movie were... unsatisfying. I would actually like it much better if he decides to use entirely unique abilities, maybe a few not even being advanced natures and instead more like Shikotsumyaku, Satetsu, or Sōma no Kō. --GoDai (talk) 00:02, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

New Icon
I was just wondering..are you going to make a new nature icon for Scorch Release? 10:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

More on Natures
So the Chapter #522 came out, and it did two main things for the natures discussion: Now I'm still wondering about: Also, if there are more than 10 possible combinations, I would bring out the left&right hands thing. If that is true, I'll be able to theorize that Earth and Fire could make Lava as well as Explosion, seeing how Explosion Release: Landmine Punch worked. --GoDai (talk) 11:38, December 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Confirmed 爆遁 as a kekkei genkai, and displayed how it could utilized other than how Deidara used it.
 * Revealed 燋遁, which seems to be Fire+Wind, seeing the effects and Pakura's hometown, respectively.
 * 炎: This, to me, is Fire+Lightning now. I'm assuming it can be used with normal fire. Also, the spiked shape of Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi may be the burning nature of the fire with the forking nature of lightning.
 * Haku created ice from existing water. I'm guessing if he used black water, it would be black ice. Therefore, Blaze can be used with common fire, but when used with Amaterasu, the flames are black but the technique is the same.
 * 熔/溶: I think the databook with Rōshi's Lava was a mistake. The substance in Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique yet seems more like a gooey/slimy solvent, but still not sure. Also, I have a new theory that advanced natures should contain the "national affinity" of the village (Wood doesn't count, as the Senju were not originally from the Land of Fire, they were descendents of the Sage of the Six Paths, and maybe had a chance to inherit any nature transformation kekkei genkai?). So Dissolution would contain Water.
 * 木&溶 shared combination: It may be just me, but this seems really weird. If 溶 is a separate nature, it would be Water+Earth, which would steal/share Wood's spot. Something tells me either:
 * Wood is something else, as it is related to the control of Tailed Beasts, and reacts to Yang chakra.
 * There are more than 1 combination for each pair of nature transformations, meaning a total 20 natures.


 * Yeah, it's not like I'm certain about Enton. I just thought I had a fairly good idea to build upon. Hopefully Sasuke will show his face and display some more Enton techniques, just to clearly show how it works. Madara probably knows about it, and so we might get one of those "Madara commenting moments" where he describes a technique, like what he did with Torune's venom bugs, Izanagi, and Sasuke's genjutsu.


 * I actually wish that Kishi never did the 溶/熔 switch. It's creating a problem for my theories. However, if 溶 is a nature, it should contain Earth, as Mei specifically said she had Water, Fire, and Earth, and two kekkei genkai, and Futton is Water+Fire, meaning her other kekkei genkai would have to contain Earth. It would either be Earth+Fire or Water+Earth, but both spots are taken. For me, Wood doesn't belong in its current so much, although Yamato clearly showed us what he does to make Wood. I only theorized Dissolution would have to be Water+Earth due to the radical 水 being in 溶 and the fact that water can dissolve some substances. I think I'll soon have to begin to leave it alone. Maybe letting Kishi show us is the best thing to do here, as I don't have much to build upon here.


 * And oh, did Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique really melt anything? It might be just a slimy solvent substance that melts over and hardens to form a wall. I mean, it is Melt Release, but yeah. Seems more like... a weaker dissolution. --GoDai (talk) 02:18, December 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did Kurotsuchi's Lava Release: Quicklime Congealing Technique harden on its own? Or did it require the water technique to harden? Also, the hardened forms were different. Mei's had a rounded, blunt shape with that slimy substance all drippy, but Kurotsuchi's seemed much more jagged, and sharp-looking. --GoDai (talk) 04:17, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Advanced Nature Transformation Diagrams
They need updating. Perhaps we should entirely remove Crystal? Also, if we're going to put Blaze and Dust in there, we might as well add Explosion and Scorch, as most people seem to have come to an agreement that they are Earth+Lightning and Wind+Fire, respectively. While you're at it, can you replace the Dark on my Yin/Yang diagram with Scorch, and replace the Steel and Swift natures with grey ?-element icons? Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 05:28, December 27, 2010 (UTC)