Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20170610192426/@comment-24824859-20170614133402

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Won't Jiraiya and Orochimaru take this? I mean Orochimaru practically tied with Naruto's 4th tail state despite him not having his hands in that fight. Even if Naruto and sasuke's Ultimate jutsu like Rasenshuriken Or kirin is taken into account Considering Jiraiya's strongest Fire style and Oro's Knowledge of Kirin They could probably easily counter their Trump cards. Though I still think that Restricting Summoning Jutsu Is a Hindrance for Jiraiya Considering his Collaboration Ninjutsu style. And Sasuke gets restricted from his Hawkks
 * Orochimaru didn't tie with Four-Tailed Naruto. You can hardly call the skirmish a fight if Naruto barely did anything
 * Jiraiya's strongest Fire Release technique will not do anything against the Rasenshuriken. Orochimaru will not be able to counter against Kirin, since it's too fast