Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-35409024-20190118162602

MadEyes008 wrote:

Itachi used a different genjutsu than Tsukuyomi vs Kabuto, while having his mangekyou on. How does the 2nd Databook destroy any argument I can make? and

Ninja of War wrote:

But did the author say that or only Itachi.

I'm addressing you both. For this one. 2nd Databook, page 252. "Concurrently, the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors… And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness." This shows that Itachi is right since Kishimoto literally said it. That's why it's on the Tsukuyomi page on this site. Not only does every English translator say this (which you can search for yourself if my word isn't viable by just searching "Naruto 2nd Databook" and I challenge you to prove me wrong), but even other languages come up with the same translation. The reason I can't give you a page in English is cause I found that there is no English Version for me to buy (If you can find one I'll buy it to show but I searched all over and all I've found is only a Japanese and an Indonesia version). However, I did find and have a Portuguese version for you, if you don't want to trust a translator and you want to translate it yourself. As you can see on the top left corner it literally says "PARALELAMENTE, OS ÚNICOS QUE PODEM DERROTAR O TSUKUYOMI São POSSUIDORES DO SHARINGAN... MESMO ASSIM, EXCLUSIVAMENTE UM SHINOBI QUE ATINGIU GRAUS ELEVADOS DE HABILIDADE." Which in English says "PARALLELLY, THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DEFEAT THE TSUKUYOMI ARE SHARINGAN'S OWNERS ... EVEN SO, EXCLUSIVELY A SHINOBI THAT ACHIEVED HIGH LEVELS OF SKILL." Then if you continue, it says "APENAS AQUELES COM SANGUE UCHIHA. ISTO SIGNIFICA QUE APENAS SASUKE TEM UMA CHANCE DE QUEBRARO TSUKUYOMI?" Which in English says "JUST THOSE WITH UCHIHA BLOOD. DOES IT MEAN THAT JUST SASUKE HAS A CHANCE OF BREAKING TSUKUYOMI?" So I've went above and beyond to prove the series right (when I didn't even have to since anyone can find these translations with a simple google search and will see every translation, no matter the language, says the same thing... that Sharingan users with Uchiha blood are the only ones who can break it). Now where's your evidence of Kishimoto stating he, Zetsu, Kakashi, and Itachi are all wrong?

MadEyes008 wrote:

I could and have made the argument that there's no indication whatsoever that Itachi used time dilation against Sasuke. I also made the argument that there's nothing ever indicated Sasuke can break Tsukuyomi, with time dilation. But you ignored those arguments, probably because you know it's true and the implications of it being true. Because you haven't proven it. You say there's nothing indicated, I say Itachi and Kishimoto. I ignored your argument because why do I need to prove you wrong when the series already does? You have to prove the series wrong. Yes, if I made an opinion and you made an opinion, I'd have to prove your opinion wrong. But if I have a fact and you have an opinion that says that fact is wrong, you have to prove that fact wrong.

MadEyes008 wrote:

Kakashi implied that Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when instant. Source?