Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25531508-20140923043228/@comment-7292165-20140925195815

True but they definitely weren't in there 50's. And yes Hashirama isn't dumb but I don't believe he'd get a 5. You believe Hashirama doesn't need sage mode to beat him yet he fought Hiruzen with Tobirama despite being weakend Hirzuen was old and lost. Until I see Hiruzen in his prime I'm not throwing he's the strongest Hokage out the window. You believe what you want but all signs point Hiruzen prime to be the strongest Hokage.