Talk:Road to Ninja: Naruto the Movie

Evidence
Here is a link to the article from Anime News Network if you are wondering what basis this page has to exist. Umishiru (talk) 12:22, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've mentioned it in my summary. akz! ANBU Symbol.svg 12:23, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just being extra cautious, some don't read summaries and may look to talk pages to see whats going on. Either way its better to be safe than sorry.Umishiru (talk) 12:27, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Tobi
Can we add Tobi in his infobox that he will appear on this movie as depicted in the promotional poster? Shakhmoot (Talk) 10:20, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 12:09, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Canon?
Will this movie be considered canon since Masashi Kishimoto himself will write the story? I know we don't copy from other wikis but I'm just asking since the One Piece wiki considers the Strong World movie to be canon since the Strong World story was conceived by Eiichiro Oda.... 41.124.202.37 (talk) 06:57, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose that depends if Kishimoto indicates that it is. Skitts (talk) 07:16, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, it's not the first movie that Kishimoto penned the storyline and characters design himself. Kishimoto contributed on writing of the third movie Naruto Shippūden 3: Inheritors of the Will of Fire with Junki Takegami. As we know that many of characters who has been shown in the movie could be found in the Fourth Shinobi World War. Shakhmoot  (Talk) 08:25, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes but isn't Kishimoto-sensei doing this one entirely? If we're counting those cutscenes in the Generations game as canon then this is the same ne? Well, not that I believe that it should be treated in any special way. Movie stuff is movie stuff. But! in our hearts... we'll know T_T--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 09:55, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * While the kekkei genkai shinobi from Inheritors of the Will of Fire did appear in the manga, I don't recall it ever being reported that Kishimoto participated in that movie. We know nothing on how everything happened. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:52, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm with Omni on this one. I never heard that Kishimoto was involved in The Inheritors of the Will of Fire. Road to Ninja is the first movie (with confirmation) that will be entirely written by Kishimoto. Sparxs77 (talk) 16:35, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't lying for my thought, I quoted that from the Wikipedia page of this movie and also Kishimoto wrote something as a massage in the end of this movie broadcast that he hope that everyone will enjoy with watching this movie.  Shakhmoot  (Talk) 17:01, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd have to check in the movie for that message, but I don't see Wikipedia's source for Kishimoto actually writing in this. The external links I found in that article, such as IMDB and Anime News Network say nothing about him writing it. ANN lists him only as the original creator of the series, just like in the other movies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well ... since Tobi wears his old attire, I think this movie is non-canon just like the others, even if written by Kishi. --Elveonora (talk) 23:17, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently it's set in an alternate universe where Kushina and Minato were never killed. 207.216.193.21 (talk) 20:34, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * And the source for that is? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * His arse of course.
 * Ediit- Actually, he got it from the Wikipedia article. However, there is no source for that there also. Better go check up on it and remove it so no one else comes here and puts that in until it's confirmed. Skitts (talk) 22:48, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's safe to assume that seeing as its being hailed as a "10th Anniversary" movie, whatever happens in the movie will probably be non-canon, and speculation that it's set in an alternate universe seems feasible. I'd say it's only logical to assume, such as with the other films, that characters/events will not alter the current manga storyline. Especially considering the anime is quite a while behind still. 49.196.165.6 (talk) 18:00, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I hope it is set in an alternate universe. It'd make it too sad if it was a genjutsu. --Senjuto 15:46, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I want to bring attention back to the canon saga> I think we can all assume that the events of the Eye of the Moon Plan is obviously genjutsu. However, can the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi be considered canon and added to the wiki? 41.124.147.215 (talk) 12:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * The effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi in the movie will more than likely go into trivia with the note: "In the movie etc etc etc"--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

what is it about again ?
I'm not getting it ... an alternative universe where certain events happened differently ? Still dunno the purpose of this movie then --Elveonora (talk) 22:51, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Families?
Did it just say that we will see the families of the Akatsuki members?--D.G 03:35, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Would it better just to remove the last part of "Naruto and Sakura attacked by the masked man"?

I mean look at the official Naruto webpage? The big blue text is not part of the summary just a side text, much like most of it. As a figure of speech. Because the fans such as Narusaku are believing that the movie is about "Naruto and Sakura" and will give little focus on Konoha 11. I mean look at the first movie poster it seemed most about Naruto's parents playing a big role than Sakura, and Team 8 and 10 plus Kakashi and Gai are playing a key role of helping Naruto stop the Genjutsu that Tobi is using. Just a speculation.

No. We are not going to ignore what the direct translation of the movie poster is. Naruto and Sakura getting attacked and being pulled into the genjutsu has nothing to do with NaruSaku. I again ask people to keep any bias out of this site. Please. The poster shows the genjutsu version of everyone else, as can be seen with their unusual appearance and unusual attitude. Naruto and Sakura are the only ones that seem 'normal', so to speak. Please, PLEASE, don't be overly pairing-sensitive. --96.52.179.244 (talk) 03:56, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Stuff ...
Good Sasuke in this movie ? O_O https://twitter.com/naruto_movie/status/208556747420471296/photo/1 --Elveonora (talk) 20:04, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Lol~! He looks like a cute playboy, if you ask me! :) Nice going, finding this concept art for him! Is there any more?-- Ninja Sheik  20:06, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Not that I know of, feel free to browse through the tweets. Sasuke that never turned evil looks ... interesting ? 0_o ... nothing confirmed yet, its just a concept that might not show up in the final movie--Elveonora (talk) 20:15, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.likenaruto.com/funny-sasuke-sexy-hinata-naruto-road-to-ninja/ Sasuke the ladies' boy and now Hinata with Ino's personality ? O_O --Elveonora (talk) 15:51, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Lol~! I can't tell this going to one interesting movie! Kishi should really make more canon movies like this!-- Ninja Sheik  17:57, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=196132 more stuff, I think we should update the article or something--Elveonora (talk) 16:00, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=198309 http://i49.tinypic.com/200qvc5.jpg O_O--Elveonora (talk) 22:29, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well...that's disturbing, all right. Question, though, who's that third person?-- Ninja Sheik  22:35, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sai--Elveonora (talk) 23:17, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

WHAAT?! That's Sai!? I hardly recognized him! O__o Why is he dressed like a girl?!-- Ninja Sheik  23:21, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

That's Tobi's genjutsu ... alternative dimension or some shit--Elveonora (talk) 23:46, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, but still... O__O-- Ninja Sheik  00:02, June 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * He's dressed like a painter, not a girl. 66.220.139.70 (talk) 17:38, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah I think so too. Sai isn't dressed look like a girl, just even more artsy. It's because he's completely covered from head to toe, y'all just in shock lol.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:43, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha! Probably~! ;)-- Ninja Sheik  18:25, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Chouji
Can anyone read the Kanji on Chouji's armour?--

Characters oposite to manga and anime
I saw some posters, and looks like Kishi changed every character look and behavior, Sasuke is now playboy, Hinata looks like got more confident and now care about her look, Shikamaru doesn't seem smart as in manga, Kakashi and Guy switched role, and what is my prediction Jiraiya is not going to be as pervy as in manga...My toughts, Tobi used genjutsu in wich everybody changed to opposite...YamatoTakeru (talk) 09:48, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

In a way that kind of makes sense, but we won't know until Kishimoto-san confirms on how or why he made his characters this way, a sudden change of personality or a mysterious jutsu that caused the Leaf shinobi to become the opposite what they are or releasing a side of them that they try so hard hide. Again we won't know until the full info is released.

Narubi O_O
  It appears Naruto or at least "Dark Naruto" took on the personality of Tobi "_"--Elveonora (talk) 20:05, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Freaky... O__O-- Ninja Sheik  20:16, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

It appears everyone takes either on the opposite of them, or on the personality of enemies and friends.--Elveonora (talk) 20:22, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

What's "motion comic"?--Spcmn (talk) 20:29, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

It will come with the movie in limited numbers--Elveonora (talk) 20:30, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sakura's Parents
This movie seems to reveal Sakura's parents, so how will we list them in the infobox? Or should we not list them all, because we only list anime and manga stuff on the infoboxes. 193.150.231.252 (talk) 21:00, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not enough information about her parents have been revealed. We should wait a while until we know some. - White Flash - (Talk) - 21:15, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

New Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoaZZOERLg, can someone add the info from there?--Elveonora (talk) 00:22, June 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * That trailer leads further to my speculation: that Movie!Canon Naruto somehow gets caught in some alternate universe where everyone's personalities are jacked up. /nods seems logical but not something that can be added to the article. Well information from the newest trailer...may work.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 00:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

We can change "masked man's mysterious doujutsu" to Infinite Tsukuyomi now and mention that neither Kushina or Naruto are Kurama's hosts in the illusion.--Elveonora (talk) 14:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * It would appear the genjutsu is Infinite Tsukuyomi, but as for the Nine-Tails' jinchuriki, thats unknown. The Nine-Tails appeared free, but that doesn't mean it always was.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 17:26, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kx5HGLrdA more stuff--Elveonora (talk) 08:53, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sakura's Parents
Finally the Sakura's parents!! This will take some work ... JoaoKrauss (talk) 01:49, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Kizashi Haruno will be the name of her father, I guess...I've read it on fb...Can anyone confirm? here akz!  13:00, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mebuki Haruno will be her mother....So should we create articles? akz!  13:04, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can that thing be trusted? -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (T@lk) 13:16, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm very dubious as too if Facebook can be trusted as they can easily be fanon names. I'll look more into this. EDIT: It's true! These are there names by Saiyan Islands standards. See? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 14:08, July 16, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * That page generally follows the SaiyanIsland, so should we create the articles? akz! ANBU Symbol.svg 14:56, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think we have more information on them than a picture and a name .. sounds like a short article for each, so better to wait till the movie is out.--Elveonora (talk) 15:35, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good point. EDIT: It didn't stop use before. We always had short movie character articles until the actual movie came out.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 03:30, July 18, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * I guess a stub article will do...

Fourth Hokage
When I saw the extended trailer, I noticed that there was a head in place of Minato's, meaning someone else became the Fourth Hokage in this alternate dimension. Who do you think it is? --Senjuto 00:15, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

It's Sakura's father.--Elveonora (talk) 08:52, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wait! Naruto Hokage?
on one of the lats trailers of RtN, I see naruto with hokage clothes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kx5HGLrdA&feature=player_embedded --MaskedManMadara (talk) 20:46, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

He just wears his father's cloak--Elveonora (talk) 20:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

So, is a homage? --MaskedManMadara (talk) 21:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, avenging Minato by defeating Tobi and all ... this is in the "real" universe though, in Infinite Tsukuyomi, Sakura's father appears to be the 4th Hokage--Elveonora (talk) 21:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Really? Sakura's father? You got that from the scan?-- Ninja Sheik  22:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hokage monument has his head there--Elveonora (talk) 23:05, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Really? I didn't notice that. Sakura's father must be really strong, then.-- Ninja Sheik  23:08, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Two jinchuuriki in this movie
There is artwork leaked onto the internet for Road to Ninja showing Fuu and Yagura's art for the film.

Here's the link

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/188/d/3/naruto_road_to_ninja_by_kira_xd-d56axo4.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/188/e/c/naruto_road_to_ninja_by_kira_xd-d56axcy.jpg

can we please add this to the gallery section? Also, shall we add a note of them being in the film on their respective pages?

OneShot
should an article be created?? akz!  15:48, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Conclusions Based off OneShot
1) The entire movie is a genjutsu based around Limited Tsukuyomi. 2) The film would appear to be placed around when Tobi gave Taka the order to capture Killer Bee. 3) Personalities in the genjutsu are...reversed. Based on the splash art
 * Rock Lee...is exactly the same.
 * Ino is timid.
 * Choji is serious (I.E. Shikamaru)
 * Shikamaru is laid back and carefree
 * Sasuke by the titans Sasuke is actually a likable character.
 * Sakura...appears to be normal.
 * Naruto also appears to be normal.
 * Hot damn Hinata.
 * Kiba seems more violent, as does Akamaru.
 * Goddamnit Shino.
 * Tenten is serious, wounded, and actually kind of scary.
 * Neji is perverted.

4) And because Kishimoto made the OneShot, it does some wonky things to Movie Canon (no it isn't linked with Manga/Anime canon, but at least for this movie it doesn't look like it can just be...swept aside...)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:41, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * As well as Guy and Kakashi. Guy looks a bit like Shikamaru (lazy) and Kakashi seemed to have a bit of energetic personality. - White Flash - (Talk) - 19:02, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

and shino hate the insect (look like have a insect repellent) and kiba look more like a cat that a dog ten ten look like is not good with the weapons --Nitram86 (talk) 09:20, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

What are those masked beasts?
Hey does anyone have any idea what they are cause they don't look like bijuu even thought it says so in the picture?--D.G 23:26, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

We don't know, the only answer I can give to you is: "with different names and different forms than you exist now" likely how the Tailed Beasts appear in the alternative world.--Elveonora (talk) 23:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * They're called the Four Gods and the Little Fox (四神と子狐, Shijin to Kogitsune). The Four Gods, are based on the Four Symbols, also known as the Four Sacred Beasts, the Holy Beasts, the Four Gods, and various other monikers. Individually, the five beasts are named Byakko, Suzaku, Genbu, Seiryū, and Kogitsune. They're all wearing masks with the same three-eyed motif as the black-haired Naruto that has been depicted a couple times so far (concept art in the first trailer, and on the cover of the Motion Comic DVD). It's been hinted that they're somehow connected to the nine Tailed Beasts. FF-Suzaku (talk) 03:03, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Why does this article refer to them as Tailed Beasts? Shouldn't it be changed to something like Masked Beasts? Diamonddeath (talk) 19:09, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

road to naruto and road to sakura
the next episode of the anime after the 270 is like a anticipation of the movie with a sakura point of view so i was thinking about adding a link  in this page with the oneshot about the movie because bot้ are special related with the movie Road to Naruto The Movie--Nitram86 (talk) 13:47, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * It would seem so. At the very least a "parody"--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

the problem is if they are strong related with the movies they deserve have a link in this page for now we must add the one about the one shot because is out something like "before the airing of the movie kishimoto made a special chapiter related with the movie" and then the link to the one shot page  --Nitram86 (talk) 13:59, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That fine and all but what is there to link? The one shot manga hasn't been released yet (as far as I know) nor has the movie or the anime episode which is to debut next week.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

the one shot is out i don't know if you wait when is out on a specific scannetion group --Nitram86 (talk) 14:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

In any case, I wanted to ask if someone can unlock the page for a minute so I can make a minor edit.-- Ninja Sheik  17:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Putting these links is highly discouraged. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:12, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry! I didn't know. T__T-- Ninja Sheik  20:15, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, a section should be added for movie promotion, with links to articles for Road to Naruto the Movie, Road to Sakura, and the Naruto Motion Comic DVD. FF-Suzaku (talk) 03:05, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

character of the movie and of the manga
i was thinking about the character of the movie have a different personality and apparence so we must create a new page for the movie contropart of the character or we use the page about them in the manga?? --Nitram86 (talk) 20:42, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't say that quite yet. Movie stuff is usually left in a section at the end of the article. We should see the movie first. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * That being said by Omni-senpai, the movie is set to release next Saturday in theaters, and the DVD for it usually won't come until maybe six to eight months. Most people can see the movie from leak clips that people in Japan recorded on YouTube and other sites, but the quality is so bad. So, it might be a while until we create any new pages that might be related to the movie.-- Ninja Sheik  21:19, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

but in the last episode we see sakura contropart she have a different background (with the parents death when she was young and the father hokage) so she is a different person from the real wold sakura. the same is from the other charcters. --Nitram86 (talk) 19:52, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

I think "alternative history" in her article is enough.--Elveonora (talk) 20:16, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not even. This alternate world is confusing many people, but the Japanese website confirmed it is an illusionary world created by Tobi's trial run of Infinite Tsukiyomi. It may or may not be real, it's more than just an illusion, but it was created by Tobi. If anything, this trial run technique should have it's own section and we can mention the alternate world there. Diamonddeath (talk) 19:12, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

There really isn't going to be enough information on the "Finite Tsukuyomi" counterparts for the characters to make articles, they'll deserve probably a paragraph at most because they're not given a ton of development or backstory. It might be better to simply create an article for the technique and create subsections listing the distortions of the illusion, such as the changed layout of Konohagakure, the changes in personalities and mannerisms for characters, and changes to the history of the setting. Probably the only character who will warrant a full article is Menma (the alternate, mask-wearing, black-haired Naruto, not to be confused with the anime filler character), as he's got a different name and acts as the film's primary antagonist. Also, if anyone's interested, I've been posting spoilers from the movie on mangahelpers. FF-Suzaku (talk) 16:39, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Menma doesn't need a new article, it's Naruto from the finite tsukuyomi (in the AU version, still likely Jiraiya just named him Menma instead of Naruto, but it's the same character) possessed by Tobi. The problem is, that the "true" "canonical" Naruto is also using this name, Menma in the tsukuyomi because no one knows him by the name of Naruto. Something like this I guess: - Naruto 6: Road to Ninja - "Naruto goes by the name of his AU version, Menma" etc. "AU version of Naruto Menma is "what if" Naruto that turned evil and got "possessed" (not really possessed, more like Tobi is in control of AU Naruto's body in the illusion, so I'd call it "Narubi" and some shit"--Elveonora (talk) 16:50, July 28, 2012 (UTC)