Board Thread:Wiki Discussions and Support/@comment-26010916-20150211152912/@comment-26010916-20150212202928

Naruto uzu6254 wrote: Sorry, I'm against it and I don't have a special hearsay over articles, anyone can edit since you have databook proof you can edit if you want but the community members say it is not correct so we should sort this problem. It is not our job to correct the information given in manga/databook just because it goes beyond our logic, but we have to present whatever the correct information available there is I would say lets present databook information. I FELT THE INFORMATION MISSING IN DATABOOK DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE INFORMATION PRESENT IN MANGA IS WRONG. I'm against it because TAILED BEAST GAVE HIM CHAKRA DURING WAR and it was useful for him after he received Hagoromo's power meaning he unlocked the power to use all Tailed Beasts power and the sealing pattern the nine Magatama and Rinnegan marking do indicate that the Tailed Beasts are sealed inside him and they are fractions, look back in chapter when Hagoromo explains to Naruto that he divided Ten-Tails into 9 Bijuu and at that time his back was shown 9 magatama meaning 9 bijuu in panel. ALSO I DON'T BELIEVE TAILED BEASTS COMING TOGETHER AS A NONSENSE IT WAS FOR A PURPOSE NOT ONLY TELL HAGOROMO BUT ALSO THEY WOULD LEND HIM POWERS. That is what I call manga reasoning and it was implied because SON GOKU AND ALL TAILED BEAST LENT HIM CHAKRA. He doesn't need to make connection like fist bump again, because the Tailed Beasts already gave him chakra, the source of of chakra of tailed beasts was in Kaguya at that time. The Chakra manifested as consciousness and physical entity of Tailed Beasts and their power were used by Naruto. Do note Hagoromo is a chakra now and manifested as physical entity and he is traversing time. Sorry If I was not helping or anything but I do want to know what is the correct thing What is Six Paths Sage Mode actually? if you have more links feel free to give them on my talkpage.

Can you explain why the Tailed Beasts were shown in panels, you said only Hagoromo+Kurama is involved, and it was Hagoromo's power to communicate with the Beasts but for e.g. Son Goku was shown for Youton RS when in fact he was inside Madara. Naruto asked Son Goku to lend him some chakra in MANGA. The only explanation I got is that Naruto had some of Son Goku's chakra when they first met each other he fist bumped Son Goku and so that time he is using them. Also note THE RSM IS NOT TOTALLY RELATED TO CLOAK he can kick Truth-Seeking Ball and give life force and he used Lava Release Rasenshuriken without cloak, and it is all part of RSM as you can see the + mark of eyes and sun tattoo on hand.

Archangel489 stated that Kurama has larger influence in the cloak it doesn't mean there is only Kurama inside Naruto and where are the other beasts that helped him undoing Infinite Tsukuyomi so you are saying they are not inside him. They helped him perform Rasenshuriken, Ok I agree Hagoromo's power is involved but it doesn't exclude the Tailed Beasts, Tailed Beasts were there in his subconscious mind. Kishimoto DID SHOW them in panels and that is what I'm believing. And also it was implied with 9 magatama markings + Rinnegan marking on back that he has nine tailed Beasts and the cloak indicates that so they are part of RSM. So that is all I have got for proof that Tailed Beast chakra exist inside Naruto.

I really don't have a clue why databook failed to include them but I guess you can ask this site Translators User:Seelentau and User:FF-Suzaku if it is mentioned in databook somewhere.

It is not your job to correct the information given in a manga/databook, well duh I never said you did XD! You in no way, shape or form could correct information given in the manga/databooks, but what on Earth needs correcting? We have all the information we need towards the subject, even without an answer. What you are IMPLYING is that “I don’t have an answer, so I’m going with my best guess.” Does that sound like something we should take for granted? We have already stated why the Tailed Beasts gave Naruto chakra, why it was setup for the plot and towards the end for the Infinite Tsukuyomi. If we can’t provide proof that Naruto used their powers to create something, it’s better for us to drop it. Cause I’m really not interested in long paragraphs on assumptions, needless to say. The only time when Naruto actually used their powers was for his Rasengan Variants and afterwards it was stated he was low on them. KCM/BM have 9 magatama in their cloaks as-well (KCM has it around the neck I believe). Symbolizing the nine tails I’d assume. Yes we already explained the purpose, the child of prophecy, to end the brother’s feud, and etc etc. You do know that the Juubi itself is connected to senjutsu right? Juubi's chakra = Nature chakra = Senjutsu What Hagoromo gave to Naruto was senjutsu, the power for the Body. You know why I say the things I say? Because the nine tailed beasts are chakra beings that can also gather Natural energy. It’s seems as though their powers were only existent for temporary things. Yes, I can. The Tailed Beasts were shown in panels with Hagoromo/Naruto to talk about Ashura/Cooperation/Ninshuu/Child of Prophecy/Kaguya Battle/Infinite Tsukuyomi/Etc. This was Naruto’s destiny, to bring the tailed beasts together. He did, didn’t he? He used their power in unision, Bijuu Rasenshuriken, etc.

That’s exactly what I’ve been saying from the beginning. Naruto without the cloak is PURE Hagoromo’s chakra which connected him to the TAILED BEASTS. Unless you are saying Hagoromo’s pure senjutsu is only activated with Psuedo-Juubi Jins (Jinchuriki who have all the tailed beasts).

Now let me blow your mind with one aspect: Hagoromo, who lost the Juubi, still had TruthSeekingBalls and the RSM Cloak. I thought that was a nice find.

Sadly, that is as much as proof as me saying Naruto’s RSM is Hagoromo’s power + Kyuubi chakra: I.	No other tailed beasts are implied to have given Naruto their power during RM’s activation/RSM’s activation II. Naruto’s RSM activation had the same Kanji as KCM/BM III. Naruto used the tailed beasts power individually, instead of combining them fruitlessly like JJ Jin’s IV. Naruto’s RSM form behaves the same way as Kurama’s chakra.

I asked the two translators you gave me, and gave them links to the RSM page. I think we should go with the Databooks on this, rather than using assumptions via Manga. We'll see once they give their translations. I'll go find some more reddit japanese-american speaking users, once agian. Because I can tell you this, the Databooks were accurate with Amen. (Sasuke's S/T Rinnegan techniques) and RIkudou Coffin Seal. So why would they leave out RSM? Makes no sense to me .-.