Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33308438-20180614101055/@comment-33959444-20180628223921

@Flat I already answered the part about "if Minato was that strong, Ay would not be alive to tell the tale." part in my other response. "If FTG was that great, Minato would not have died." What logic is that? Minato sacrificed himself in order to seal Kurama into Naruto. He did this in a very pressured situation where he has to think fast because a masked man who is reminiscent of Madara is powerful enough to control and summon the Kyuubi which was devastating the Leaf Village. Minato just witnessed his newborn baby almost get murdered by this man. At this point, he was very pressured and the only choice was to die sealing the NIne Tails into Naruto to help defeat the masked man in the future. Has nothing to even do with FTG...

And by the way, you saying that FTG only countered a 14 year old Obito isn't really valid because 14 year old Obito's feats are insane. He controlled and summoned the Nine Tails, a feat Jiraiya thought that only Madara himself could accomplish. Bare in mind that Jiraiya had already had a run-in with Itachi, so he didn't even think Itachi could do it, yet a 14 year old Obito could do it. Because of the feats Obito pulled off, Minato thought he actually was Madara. He dismissed it only because he thought Madara died of age.

And before I go any further, calling us Minato wankers won't get you anywhere. First of all, I'm not even a Minato fanboy. He isn't even within my top 10 favorite characters. Second of all, just thinking Minato is stronger than Itachi doesn't make you a wanker.

Lol Minato didn't kill them because it was the retreat signal.

Nope. Bee stated that Sasuke was the first one to dodge his V1 Cloak since his brother. Never mentioned defeat or anything.

Susano'o could protect from FTG slices, true (one disadvantage for base MInato is he barely has any firepower). Only problem is that Itachi uses up too much stamina and Chakra. And yes, while Itachi is smart and doesn't go wasting Chaka, you have to remember that even using Susano'o for a short while takes quite the toll on him, so just being preservative won't help him too much.

Um...comparing 4th War Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke is (no offense) ridiculous. The EMS is a massive boost.

And if I remember correctly, the speed feats you remember of Itachi during the fight only appeared in the Genjutsu...

And I'm sorry, but you're making this up. Nowhere is it stated Nagato and enhanced Madara were above Itachi. Nowhere was it stated Itachi was stronger than A3.