Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160405070243/@comment-25093611-20160406082550

Narutopwnu7 wrote: Not forget that the pollen no jutsus Knocked out all the kages but Onoki,if hashirama somehow get rid of onoki first,he can deal against the other kages. he would first ned to kill tsunde than onoki or he needs to directly kill him without giving tsunade a chance to heal onoki :)

and for dust: even if hashi isnt sitting around it would still make all his attacks useless :) there are still muu acid/lava (which are both really good counters against wood), than there is gaara for stopping hashis movements and A for close combat,

madara was simply OP, the reason why edo-madara didnt OHK hashi is because he never used rinnegan paths, he used susanoo like he did in the past, and the rinnegan paths are also the reason (and his immortal body) why he survived the 5 kage and defeated them easily ^_^