Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-27660682-20160320065953

It matters because you claimed that since hashriama couldn't beat jubbi obito but sasuke/ naruto could and thus they surpassed him. But I counter that because they only did so with plot armor plus the help of entire alliance.

Cutting him in half is irrelevant, madara knows he is immortal so tanking those hits was child's play for him. He " resorted"to infinite tsyukyomi because that was his whole plan from the beginning. He came back from the dead for this goal. He needed his other eye so he got away and got it and naruto and sasuke couldn't stop him from doing so. Sasuke even remarks " shit" as he failed to stop madara from escaping.after they survived tsyukyomi he was ready to demolish them but plot armor saves the day as black zetsu betrays madara right at that moment. The chibaku tensi and limbo clones were purely a distraction and it occupied naruto and sasuke while madara accomplished his dream.

Sasuke doesn't have anywhere the amount of battle experience that hashirama has who has been fighting and killing uchiha adults since he waa a kid in the most hostile era of shinobi history. I never said hashirama is in the level of a jubbi jin but this is now a 1v1 fight with no plot armor. Edo hashriama overwhelmed edo rinnegan madara who also had hashirama's techniques and hashirama wasn't even using his top budda. By feats hashirama can destroy perfect susanoo, has sage mode, experience battling the rinnegan,  healing factor etc. Sasuke probably wins most likely because of his power up but am I very skeptical of that, and sasuke' s best feats against naruto were only after he absorb ed the chakra of the tailed beasts which he doesn't have in this fight.