User talk:NinjaSheik

Hello NinjaSheik, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Anko Mitarashi page.

We do hope that you will stay for a long time. Enjoy your stay as we work to become the best Naruto info site out there. BELIEVE IT!

If you're looking for something to do why not look over the Forums or more specifically Narutopedia Collaboration for a list of projects we're working on. And the Community portal has a lot of recent discussions and places to go listed on it.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- TheUltimate3 (Talk) 20:13, 3 July 2009

Policies
Both of you please read over our Talkpage Policy...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 04:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I apologize. I didn't know.--NinjaSheik (talk) 20:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Was there a problem
i noticed my trivia contribution on jiraiya was taken out, was there something wrong with it or did i forget to do something after making the contribution? Can you please tell me so i know what to do next time?Filipinoboy97 (talk) 17:52, July 13, 2010 (UTC)Filipinoboy97

It wasn't needed. It was such a lame trivia. There was no need to mention Master Jiraiya and Kakashi-sensei had blond-haired students. I mean, who cares?-- Ninja Sheik  17:55, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he's right. That was kind of bogus. and its the point of the trivia. It's supposed to be about something readers wouldn't notice on their own Amaterasu789 (talk) 17:16, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for agreeing with me, but..Uh, I'm a girl.-- Ninja Sheik  17:20, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

??
Did you erase the quote I put for Shino's page? The quote's legit Episode 34 - 8:36 in (original japanese version of course). You better not be editing people's contributions based on the english dubbed version.

Trust me, I'm not. Shino's have enough quotes on his page. I'm sure someone else whould reverted the edit, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik  16:20, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding? "Shino's have enough quotes on his page." He has 5. I laughed out loud when I re-watched that episode and he said that, and thought "I should contribute that to his page." Not to mention it shows how much character growth has occurred between the two of them from that time and where Shippuden is now.

Bottom line, who gave you jurisdiction over this? Are personally responsible for making sure Shino only has 5 quotes on his page? No. It's actions like yours that makes contributing not fun and not worth the time. -Jedi Mc

Sheesh, calm down. It's just a stupid idiot. Don't make a deal out fo it.-- Ninja Sheik  20:45, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a pointless quote. I reverted it previously, and Jedi Mc still added it again. S im A nt 20:53, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

You're one of the admins on Narutopedia, correct? It's not to meet you. Thank you for...Um, agreeing with me.-- Ninja Sheik  20:55, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how it was a pointless quote, it show's the character growth and the contrast in Kiba and Shino's relationship from the start of the series to the end. Not to mention it was hilarious when he said it. -Jedi Mc

Dude, you do not want to start arguing with a admin. Just let it go.-- Ninja Sheik  21:04, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not an admin. But the general consensus on quotes is they deal with the characters personality. S im A nt 21:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Really, now? You're not a admin? Hmm...I always thought so. I seen you make many edits here everyday. You'd work hard, so I thought you were admin.-- Ninja Sheik  21:36, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nine-Tailed Fox deleting my post
Hi,

Why are you deleting my edits in the appearence section of the Nine-Tailed Fox? It's the one that says "Each one of it's nine tails is about twice the length of it's body, and each can be used as an extra limb, much like the tail of a monkey." What's so bad about that? makes perfect sense to me.

-Valiordruid

Everyone kept reverting, it's not just me. But relax, I'm tired of this little edit war. So you can have your way.-- Ninja Sheik  16:50, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

You contribute nothing to this site NinjaSheik, all you do is undo people's revisions. It's one thing to clean up someones grammar/spelling... but annoyingly undoing valid facts? Don't you get sick of people constantly tying here about how pissed off they are at you?

I work on another wiki, genius. I only lend a hand here undoing edits. And more importantly, why do you even care?-- Ninja Sheik  22:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

alright now you're starting to piss me off. Why are you doing this? That sentence is perfectly fine. It's completely pointless to keep undoing it. You're wasting my time and yours.

And you're pissing me off! It's not only me, it's also one of being undone by one the top editors here! Take it up with them, I'm tired trying to explain myself to you! If you fight for that edit, take on the discussion page!

And you're pissing me off! It's not only me, it's also one of being undone by one the top editors here! Take it up with them, I'm tired trying to explain myself to you! If you fight for that edit, take on the discussion page!-- Ninja Sheik  02:50, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Why ???
Ok dude, I just edited that page with legit stuff, I just watched that video like 7 times to make sure it wasn't my laptop or anything, And you just erased it man, I put everything it should have, I put up References, I put up correct Grammar, I put up the right stuff, I just want to know why you did it, If like it was because of a rule, I'm Sorry, But if it wasn't i want to know why you did it

Correct grammer? That wasn't correct grammer, and that's why I reverted it.-- Ninja Sheik  01:07, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh... Well if i correct the Grammar, are you still gonna Take it out?

No. And will you please sign your posts!?-- Ninja Sheik  01:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry i'm kinda new to like the user talk page thingie UchihaSakudo (talk) 01:14, August 3, 2010 (UTC) UchihaSakudo

Uh-huh...Your grammer is pretty bad, you know?-- Ninja Sheik  01:17, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

?
Why did you delete my edit to Kabuto's page? --BeeBwakka (talk) 18:09, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Because, if I'm not mistaken, you're that same anonymous user that put the exact trivia that was reverted before by Simant. It other words, that trivia does not belong there. He knows what he's doing. I'm only following his lead.-- Ninja Sheik  18:50, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, so why doesn't it belong there? --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe because it's a useless trivia. If you want to know, ask Simant.-- Ninja Sheik  19:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'll go ask him too, but I think that that is solid trivia, and you should be making your own decisions based on your opinions, rather than other user's. Looking at this talk page, it seems that you've made a lot of people angry at you because of your constant deleting of contributions, and if you don't want to be hated on the wikia, I would recommend just letting these edits go, and if it really is worth deleting, someone else will delete it, or maybe it actually belongs here, and then maybe someone else will enjoy that fact, quote, etc. --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

You really believe I care if someone hates me or not? This is a wiki over the Internet. I don't know these people, and they don't know me. They can be angry at me all they want, but what could that accomplish? What, track me down and beat me up?

And I learned from experience to not argue with a higher rank user, because in the end it'll get you nowhere. Besides, it was a such a lame trivia. Who cares if Kabuto wore two different headbands in the series? So did Lord Orochimaru, a Leaf and a Sound. Just like Kabuto. The circumstances might've been different, but it's the same thing.-- Ninja Sheik  19:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * While I appreciate your desire to help, you probably shouldn't revert things if you don't have a reason why. If you thought it was useless trivia then that's fine (and you could have said so in your edit summary), but reverting just because someone else would is a bad idea. ~SnapperTo 19:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sir, but if I would've said that then I hardly think the outcome would've been different. People are always coming to me questioning why did this or that, and I'm sick of it. I don't owe them an explanation. I work many different wikis, the main being the KH-Wiki.

And I don't know what I'm about to say would help or anything, but when that trivia was put on for the first time, I left it alone. The next time I got an update for Kabuto's page was when Simant reverted that trivia. He's been on the Narutopedia longer than I have, so I trust he knows what he is doing. I was only following his lead.

But is that so wrong? I could've I done, reverted what he did so he could change it back? I learned better not to argue with a higher rank user, who's been on this wiki longer than I have. Because in the end, the admin or mods or whatever, wins.-- Ninja Sheik  19:38, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * They usually win, but that's mainly because they have more free time and/or are more stubborn. I am merely giving advice. If you think said advice would be more of an inconvenience than what you are currently doing, you may tell me where to stick my advice. ~SnapperTo 19:52, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

To NinjaSheik: Well thanks for the advice, and I do understand your reason now. Also thanks to Snapper2 for the quick reply to a first day member. Oh, and I just wanted to say, don't you sorta wanna be liked, and it does matter cause angry people = bad. But that's just my oppinion.

I guess I should've said that to begin with, huh? The thing is when I revert an edit, I don't think I have to explain anything to anyone. I thought you would find it obvious why that trivia isn't unqiue because of Lord Orochimaru wore two headbands, the same thing with Kabuto.

I have other things to do and besides I didn't want to get caught in a edit conflict if I ever take too long to explain my reasons.-- Ninja Sheik  19:38, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I never really counted Orochimaru, because he only wore his Konoha one before the start of the actual series, but I don't really care anymore. I haven't seen a lot of the show in much detail, so I guess I should probably check sources before I add content. Anyway, I'll be sure to make sure my edits are 100 % accurate next time. Thanks. --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:47, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

That'll help my headache, thanks. And like I said before, the circumstances might've been different, but it's actually the same thing in the end.-- Ninja Sheik  19:49, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

To Snapper2; I understand, sir. I'll try to explain my reasons more to avoid this kind of thing, even if I do hate explaining things to other people.-- Ninja Sheik  19:59, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted that edit because it was one of those, "as of yet, this person is only one to do something." which I'm pretty sure the community decided was bad trivia. Also, people have worn other villages forehead protectors, either by transformation technique or just plain killing and stealing. S im A nt 20:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Hey...I'm not in trouble, am I? It seems I've been drawing a lot of attention here.-- Ninja Sheik  20:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, btw orochimaru used 3 headbands, also the grass ninja he killed :P. S im A nt 20:27, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm going that as a "no". And I completely forgot about Shiore! Stupid me!-- Ninja Sheik  20:33, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I hope that that resolves everything. As for you, NinjaSheik, I hope you don't get into one of these stupid arguments again. I also hope that other people see this and learn from it. --BeeBwakka (talk) 21:55, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Doubt it, but thanks, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik  21:57, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

If you think about it, if everyone learned from the internet, we'd all be geniuses. I think I'll talk to you again sometime NinjaSheik. --BeeBwakka (talk) 22:00, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

That'd be nice, I suppose. It's not like we're enemies.-- Ninja Sheik  22:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't think that this would be the outcome when this thing started, I sorta expected us to hate each other at the end of it, but we're all okay with each other now, right? --BeeBwakka (talk) 22:16, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guessed that outcome, too. But yeah, we're cool.-- Ninja Sheik  22:17, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for a near pointless post, but didn't Orochimaru wear 3 headbands? I seem to remember him temporarily posing as a Sand ninja, during the preliminary's of the final Chunin Exam.ZPRN (talk) 22:05, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, that was one of his follower. He did posed as the Kazekage, though.-- Ninja Sheik  22:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Mail
I don't know really, I don't use the mail to get updates. But i would guess you could try turning the setting off, saving, and then turning it back on. S im A nt 21:43, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okaay...That's weird. I recieved mail for talkpage updating from your response. But I'll try your advice. Thanks.-- Ninja Sheik  21:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have noticed the same problem, I have sent an e-mail to central wiki. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 10:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Really!?! I'm glad I'm not the only one who having the same problem! I don't understand. It was working fine last week.-- Ninja Sheik  20:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. ^_^ I got the same e-mail, so I hope they fix it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I hope so, too. I feel incomplete of my day if I don't get any Naruto updates. It's such a drag actually coming to the wikia to see all the updates myself on My Home.-- Ninja Sheik  15:28, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, no e-mails yet. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:20, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Man, I wish they hurry up. It's been 4 days, already. I also still find it weird that I only get mail from the Narutopedia when my talkpage updates.-- Ninja Sheik  20:13, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, no e-mails except for updates on my personal talk page. And I uses a more "official" e-mail account, a Telia address (Telia is the company that provides me with internet), so I don't know what could be wrong. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's so weird that we only get updates from our talkpage and nothing else. Maybe our problem isn't our account, but the Narutopedia. Can you contact the Central Wiki again and see what's up, Jacce? Can you try and talk to them?-- Ninja Sheik  16:29, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I also don't use email updates, so wouldn't know if there's been a change. The fact that you're still getting updates for your talk page suggests some wiki problem. Maybe empty your watchlist, wait a few hour for changes to take effect, and then add stuff back to your watchlist? ~SnapperTo 19:47, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

They told me they tried to reset my watchlist, but that didn't work. You think letting go of every page I followed and wait for a few hours might work?

And by the way, why is it so far that every user I go for advice doesn't follow mail updates?-- Ninja Sheik  19:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * It might work. Trying a new email also might work. That staff doesn't know what the problem is and can't fix it on their end doesn't give much hope to either solution.
 * Since I tend to look at every edit, for email updates to be effective I would need to add every page (article, talk, infobox, template, etc.) on the wiki to it. Just using special:recentchanges is far less troublesome. ~SnapperTo 20:05, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

All right. I'll give it a shot, but how can I empty my watchlist? I can't go to every page I followed and unfollowed it. That takes too much time.-- Ninja Sheik  20:08, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Special:Watchlist/raw. ~SnapperTo 20:11, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. And let's say I actually do this, how will I recover everything again?-- Ninja Sheik  20:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copy the contents to a word document, paste them back later? ~SnapperTo 20:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea! All right, I'm giving it a shot!-- Ninja Sheik  20:20, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to try that to. If it doesn't work, maybe Dantman knows something. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:41, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, good luck. Keep me updated.-- Ninja Sheik  15:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * No luck on my end. I have left a question on Dantman's talk page. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:41, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I see...But who's this Dantman person? How can he help us?-- Ninja Sheik  14:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * He is the founder of Narutopedia and our only bureaucrat. Besides, he seams to know quite much about templates and coding (the things Simant are doing). You find more info here. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:20, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

HE'S THE FOUNDER!?! WOW!

Then, you think he have the answers to our problem?-- Ninja Sheik  17:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

He has shown knowledge about wiki functions before, so I hope so. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

All right. Thank you.-- Ninja Sheik  19:56, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, nothing yet. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I see...All right, then.-- Ninja Sheik  20:37, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

^_^ I don't know about you, but suddenly I have started to get e-mail notes about new changes from Narutopedia again. Not from every page, but it was like that before the e-mails disappeared so... ^_^ Jacce | Talk | Contributions 14:47, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Omigod! Really!?! Are you sure, it's not just your talkpage anymore?!-- Ninja Sheik  16:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Completely. Now I just hope it keeps working. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:12, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

OH, MY GOD! Jacce-san, my works too! I'm actually getting mail from the Narutopedia! Thank you so much! I could kiss you! How is this even possible!?! Who fixed it?

I hope we don't have this problem again! Thank you very much for telling me!-- Ninja Sheik  16:19, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. ~_^ I don't how how it happen, the only new thing about wiki is the new look, but I don't see how it could have affected the e-mails. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:22, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm really glad it's working again. Hopefully, it won't happen again and I won't have to go in a frenzy! Thanks, Jacee-san, for letting me know. As a reward...Hmm, well, I can't really say I can give you anything of interest. But let me know, I am in your debt!-- Ninja Sheik  16:25, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

You could keep doing things like this. ~_^ Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:30, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keep working on the Narutopedia? You got it, boss!-- Ninja Sheik  16:32, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Account
Do you know how to close an account, because ShounenSuki told me i can only use one so i want to close the Shin-Yasutaro account. Shin-Yasutaro (talk) 18:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)Shin-Yasutaro

To get rid of a account, you have to ask a admin to delete it.-- Ninja Sheik  18:29, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Huh?
Is that true...Nagato is a member of the Uzumaki clan?

Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

YES!-- Ninja Sheik  20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Admins
I usually report them to Jacce, there's a section in that admins's talk design for that, mostly used by me. Other admins include Snapper2, TheUltimate3, ShounenSuki and Dantman. Jacce is the one who usually blocks most reported vandals. Snapper also blocks quite a few when he catches them in the act. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thank you very much.-- Ninja Sheik  17:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Killer Bee Edit
Why edit out the trivia of Killer Bee obviously referencing Stan Hansen? I assume Japanese professional wrestling is not common knowledge among non-Japanese anime fans and thus the obvious homage to the Japanese viewer would be missed by most English-speaking fans.

12.44.226.37 (talk) 16:41, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Dynamic A

What does that have to do with the Naruto series? And do you have any proof of it?-- Ninja Sheik  21:26, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The fact that Killer be does a left-handed "Western Lariat" and the Texas Longhorn handsign along with yelling "WEEEE", means that some aspects of his character are in homage to the wrestler Stan Hansen, which certainly fits with the qualification and goals of a "trivia" section on a Wiki page devoted to that character, no? Hansen was a very popular gaijin (foreign-born) wrestler in Japan for years, and his Lariat move (that he named) and that hand signal are instantly recognizable to Japanese. Here's a youtube video that features Hansen, his hand gesture, and the "Lariat" technique for verification: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3JutcZ4eOI

Dynamic A (talk) 02:30, September 28, 2010 (UTC)Dynamic A

I'm not entirely sure that doesn't matter to the Naruto series, which is the main reason why I reverted. I mean, come on. Who really cares? Still, if you want it on so badly, I recommand talking about to top-rank users like User:Omnibender or User:Yatanogarasu.-- Ninja Sheik  02:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Who really cares what a character's attributes are based on? On a Wiki page ABOUT THAT CHARACTER? That argument sounds more than a bit specious my little poppet. Why list that his name and rapping are in reference to the Wutang Clan, then? Or even have trivia sections at all? Dynamic A (talk) 02:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)DA

Don't get so worked up. Just talk about it to one of the top-ranking users here.-- Ninja Sheik  02:50, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its not a matter of getting worked up, simply of wondering why you would go through and lop off a tidbit of trivia no more or less "trivial" than anything else in the section. It seems like reverting just to keep status quo rather than for any constructive reason. Dynamic A (talk) 02:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)DA

It just doesn't seem important to me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so somewhere else not agree to the trivia. Just pick it up on Killer Bee's discussion page if you want it so badly.-- Ninja Sheik  02:57, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Bold Heading
Not quite sure why that happens. Usually, bolding occurs when there's a transclusion (like a section summary being transcluded to another article), when there is the translation template (character articles, for example), or to add emphasis to something in the middle of the text, like Kushina's nicknames. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:55, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mind the bold heading, but I don't see it as necessary either. I don't think there's a policy on when to do it, I just think it's something that ends up happening in certain situations. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:02, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see no real point in doing it. I don't think that most jutsu articles have the jutsu's name in the first sentence, so it would be odd to do it I think. As far as yes or no, I don't think they should be added to all articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:05, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Favor?
I'm absolutely flawless flawless~♪

Just kidding, of course. I dislike judging myself, but I am generally considered to be one of the better translators active in the Naruto fandom. I'm capable of finding and correcting errors in the work of other well-known translators and I am frequently asked for advice. I'm knowledgeable on a wide variety of cultural aspects of the language, as well, adding to my technical knowledge. Furthermore, I am actually studying to become a professional translator, giving me a slight edge over pure amateurs in that department.

However, I still make mistakes, just like everyone else. No-one is perfect, after all. However, if you need help with something, I will be able to help you in at least 80 per cent of the cases and up to 95 per cent with some assistance from my colleagues. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:45, October 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * A dōjinshi? That's been a while... The quality leaves some to be desired, but it looks clear and legible enough to translate. I'll see what I can do for you. I'll try to have it done within a week. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:57, October 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm truly sorry I haven't been able to get back to you. I'm very busy right now and I don't actually have access to my normal computer or even regular access to Internet. I really thought I already gave you the translation of those dōjinshi, but apparently I was mistaken. Again, my apologies.
 * I'll get you the translations as soon as I get back to my computer, but for now I only managed to get my hands on the translation for the first dōjinshi. the one with Jiraiya and Anko. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:34, November 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is that I'm technically already done with the translations and I even thought I already gave them to you. Apaprently I was mistaken and now I can't really access the translations for a while. I'll give them to you as soon as I do gain access again, though.


 * The book you have sounds like the fanbook. If it's in English, then I'm quite curious as to its contents. The original Japanese fanbook had a lot of Japan-specific things in them, from fanart to games. More so, even, than actual information on the series. —ShounenSuki (talk 21:49, November 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm truly sorry it took so long. If there's anything I can do to make it up to you, just say so. For the fullest effect, imagine Orochimaru talking like a creepy middle-aged woman and Sasori like a teenaged punk trying to act tough. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:30, November 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I would suggest a program like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, but they cost a lot of money and I won't openly encourage you to pirate them ^^ Instead, have a look at this list. These programs are viable alternatives for the aforementioned programs, yet they are free and legal to download. I don't have experience with them, though, so I can't help you with them any more than giving their names. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:57, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Madara and Roshi
Hi, I was just curious what was happening with the Madara page today, it was blanked at one point and it keeps being re-edited by you and some other guy. What's happening?

Also, while I'm here I figured I'd ask why my addition to the trivia on Roshi page was deleted. I pointed out that he may be connected to Kurotsuchi as they share the same ability and that being the Tsuchikage's grand daughter it was likely. However it was taken down, but the note that she shares similar eyes with Han was left. What's up with that? I'm not trying to complain, I'm just curious to know how my justification is lacking in comparison to a similar note. -Hawkeye2701

Three words: Speculation. Not. Allow.-- Ninja Sheik  22:18, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

But doesn't that make the eye thing speculation as well? I mean sharing similar eyes and sharing the same type of ninjutsu (A bloodline nature no less) seem like the same sorta deal to me. If you're not sure, should I go to Omnibender or something? -Hawkeye2701

Just go to Omnibender. I'm really busy.-- Ninja Sheik  22:35, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered you, thank you for your time. -Hawkeye2701

It's all right.-- Ninja Sheik  22:39, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Kage
Sorry to bother you again, but you edited what was added to Unknown Kage about where he could possibly from. It isn't even speculation this time but an undeniable fact that he can't be a past Hokage. Should I not have put it in trivia or something? - Hawkeye2701

Speculation isn't allowed. Is that the rules? I reverted because it was speculation.-- Ninja Sheik  02:13, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Like I just said it isn't speculation. There is simply no possibility of the Unknown Kage being a Hokage. The Five Hokage to this point are well documented here and in the series, this Kage bares absolutely no similarity to any of them. - Hawkeye2701

Even if that's true, I don't think it shouldn't be allowed. It's like saying that Nagato's mother isn't part of the Uzumaki clan when it's obvious that she is because of her red hair, the trademark of the Uzumaki clan. It isn't safe to assume, and I'm sure the other users would feel the same way.

I don't handle these kind of problems well, but I hope you see my point. I would allow it, I suppose, but...You know how the wiki can be. It's really strict.-- Ninja Sheik  02:21, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't get it. There is a difference between speculation and common sense, I even went through the trouble of logically narrowing the field when I first made the article. But I'll respect that our views on this one differ and I won't edit that one again until confirmation of some sort is given. Thank you for your time. - Hawkeye2701

Yeah, okay.-- Ninja Sheik  16:25, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why
What did you find wrong with the thing I wrote on Yamato? -User:Filipinoboy97

It's already stated on the top of his page.-- Ninja Sheik  21:45, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Who Cares?
I notice you often ask "who cares" about whatever trivia, which is completely stupid. One could ask "who cares" of any trivia, be it that two people had blond students or that someone's attack is borrowed from a Japenese wrestler. I believe I'm correct when I say that trivia is information that doesn't have any particular value, but is for some interesting to note. To say "who cares", or that something is a "useless piece of trivia"...well, the first is easy enough to answer, a good percentage of Naruto fans care. And to say that something is "A useless piece of trivia", when, in fact, that's what trivia is(useless information) is completely redundant. Nothing against you personally, but it's annoying to try to share some trivial information, and the response is "Who cares?"ZPRN (talk) 23:02, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

If you have a problem with a piece of trvia and find yourself in a edit war, take it up on a dicussion page. And you think I'm harsh? Please, before I even started to talking to the users here, I was really scared of them since I saw how strict they were.-- Ninja Sheik  23:03, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is not a personal complaint, which is why I said I've nothing against you, except that you don't seem to realize the point of trivial information, which was the whole point of my post. So, way to go, you answered me without answering me. Something admins are rather adept at, as I understand it.(If you're an admin lol). I don't think you're harsh, but it IS pretty ignorant to say that a piece of trivia(Which, you'll remember, is essentially useless information) is useless lol. By the way, sorry if I sound like a jerk, but it's sometimes difficult to say what one believes without that drawback.ZPRN (talk) 23:12, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, I suppose. I deal with these problems all the tine on KH-Wiki. I won the title on "Best Vandal Fighter", and I usually have to waste my time arguing with anonymous users and such. This isn't really new to me.-- Ninja Sheik  23:17, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Right, because KH and Naruto aren't a waste of time at all.

But not the point. KH-Wiki?ZPRN (talk) 23:24, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Kingdom Hearts. I've worked there the most.-- Ninja Sheik  23:40, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

I know what KH stands for -.- Kingdom Hearts FTW!!ZPRN (talk) 00:07, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

What?-- Ninja Sheik  00:08, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

FTW = For the Win.ZPRN (talk) 00:22, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.-- Ninja Sheik  00:23, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why??? the trivia was true!!
How come you deleted my trivia that Killer Bee and Naruto didn't have ninja headbands? What was wrong with it? It was deleted right when I finished it!Amaterasu789 (talk) 17:20, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I kinda lost here? What are you talking about? As for the whole "didn't have ninja headbands" part, so? Ino doesn't have a headband either in Part II, despite being still loyal to the Leaf.-- Ninja Sheik  17:26, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

No. what I meant was that naruto and killer bee didn't have ninja alliance headbands. I know its cuz they r jincWuriki and stuff but still. o ya i know this is off topic but u remind me of Konan. Amaterasu789 (talk) 00:28, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

The Ninja Alliance Headbands? Ooh, that. Well, they're not the only ones, you know? Anko and her team doesn't have them, either.

And a remind you of Konan? Why?-- Ninja Sheik  00:30, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I forgot. And somehow, Konan comes to mind. It seems like you're one of the greatest staff people. Amaterasu789 (talk) 00:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Not really. I haven't been here very long compare to the others like Jacce-san, or Suki-senpai. I've been working on the KH-Wiki a lot, along with many others, so I kinda know what goes on a wiki.-- Ninja Sheik  00:55, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

oh it seems like you were here a long time ago. i've only been here for about 2 and a half months but i know a lot about naruto. but i think Deva 27 is mean he can get annoying Amaterasu789 (talk) 01:03, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I appear here every day, so I guess it would seem I've been here for a long time. As for Deva27, he does seem a little scary, but he's only trying to protect the wiki. So, I can't really blame him.-- Ninja Sheik  01:06, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that is true. I come on here almost everyday, and I'm 10 years old. SPiKeS Of FiRe 01:22, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wait...You're ten years old? So, you're a little kid?-- Ninja Sheik  01:24, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Basically, yes, to you but I think I'm the smartest person in my school. I'm a 5th grader. SPiKeS Of FiRe 01:36, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's cute. I don't really see a lot of young users around here.-- Ninja Sheik  01:44, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Um...why was my thing on Madara Uchiha erased about how he got all those sharingan eyes? I know you're saying "everything is speculation" but I actually had a comment to back up what I was saying. You don't find it odd that hundreds of people are getting angry with you? Most of these people have decent arguments. Don't you think you should give others some space. It's like bullying.--.Z

Actually, those edits people made were wrong in a way, but still trivia edits being deleted is pretty bogus. Amaterasu789 (talk) 01:41, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

What he said. I don't remember you, but if you put a comment in the page, then that's why I reverted. Be professional about your edits, and if you have a reason to back your edit, put it in the Summary box.-- Ninja Sheik  01:44, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia is pretty open to the public...I don't think people should be allowed to erase Trivia. All trivia is on wikis is speculation in the first place. So the argument that all we type is "specualtion", is unfounded. I don't want to be disagreeable. I just want people to enjoy this wiki without others trying to discredit their work.--.Z

All along as the trivia is factual. Not all wikis function the same way. You're going to accept that. Not everyone can get away with something they want. And is is too much ask to put your signature after your post!?-- Ninja Sheik  01:47, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

You don't have speak harshly to get your point across. You'll just end up with a lot of people turned off at you. Try using a softer approach to your response and people will come to respect your opinion. I agree that people should not be allowed to type anything and everything. I just think that you might want to discuss it with others before making a judgment call. Does that sound unreasonable? --M.R 01:53, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with ya dude but still u hav to hav proper spelling and puncutation and stuff. im not bragging or anything but i always get 100% on my spelling tests and spelling won't be a problemAmaterasu789 (talk) 01:59, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to be harsh, or did I intend to offend you. Of course, if there is a disagreement rose up, then I'll be obilgated to discuss it with said person.-- Ninja Sheik  02:01, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Amaterasu789. Thanks, and I totally understand that. I try to be as correct in my spelling as possible. My computer tells me if I miss-spell something and my grammar is usually pretty good. What I typed was totally grammar appropriate. But still... you're right.--M.R 02:05, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Are we finished here? I hate getting caught in edit conflicts.-- Ninja Sheik  02:08, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Amaterasu789 was just trying to help me. But if you say you weren't trying to offend me than I'll believe you. It's just the way you remarked about the signature thing and by reading other peoples posts to you're said corrections that made me a bit...hahaha....well, whatever. --M.R 02:09, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah....we're done.--M.R 02:09, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, I know people get angry and stuff, but the reason this wiki is here is because Naruto fans will be able to read about things about Naruto they may or may not alredy know about and edit things. Everybody should be grateful that their edit was even posted at all(not in a mean way). That's all. Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC) signing out.

There is some truth is, but this wiki is also very important to many of the users here, who poured their time and hard work into it. It's like a baby that needs to be protected, you know.-- Ninja Sheik  02:23, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly. You need to check on it, like, all the time, or else the site wont be official and stuff. Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:29, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

So that's why you can't blame the other users for reverting the edits or being mean. They're just doing what they think is right for the wiki, that includes Deva27. Understand, Amaterasu?-- Ninja Sheik  02:37, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

I never really thought about it that way, but I see your point. No harsh feelings, right? Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Right.-- Ninja Sheik  02:45, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, case closed Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:50, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yay.-- Ninja Sheik  02:55, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Did you erase what i said about the sasuke retrieval team?--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:07, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Because it was untrue.-- Ninja Sheik  02:11, November 19, 2010 (UTC,

It was true Tsunade made Shikamaru put Naruto in his team--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:12, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's true that she requested that Shikamaru brings Naruto, but it was never said that Shikamaru didn't want Naruto to come.-- Ninja Sheik  02:23, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I clearly said even if he didn't want to.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:27, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

That was never stated.-- Ninja Sheik  02:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:31, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

When?-- Ninja Sheik  02:32, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't Tsunade decide who is on every team...? why does Naruto explicitly need to be mentioned? S im A nt 02:33, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

He's got a good point.-- Ninja Sheik  02:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he does, but Tsunade told Shikamaru that he can pick who is in the team and that Naruto had to be on the team.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:38, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Have? Tsunade did want Naruto on the team, that's true, but she didn't she used the word "recommanded" or something? It didn't really state that Tsunade told Shikamaru that he has to be on the team? We just collected as many Genin as he can get.

Besides, your edit said "Tsunade made Shikamaru put Naruto in his team even if he didn't want to", which as untrue because Shikamaru never express that he didn't want Naruto on his team.-- Ninja Sheik  02:42, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he did.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:46, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

WHEN? You never answer me from before. When did Shikamaru said that he didn't want Naruto on his team?-- Ninja Sheik  02:48, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

When Tsunade told him. He was annoyed that Naruto was on his team.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:53, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

He was annoyed because Naruto was yelling at Shikamaru when he heard Sasuke left the village. He finds Naruto annoying, that's all. That didn't mean that he didn't want Naruto on the team.-- Ninja Sheik  02:54, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

WHY?
Why is it every time I do an edit you erase it?--Rmt0225 (talk) 23:56, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Because it shouldn't be there. Trust me, a lot of users before you attempted the same thing and it was always reverted.-- Ninja Sheik  23:57, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

(アマル, Amaru) Debut Movie 	Naruto Shippūden 2: Bonds Appears in 	Movie only Voice Actors Japanese 	Motoko Kumai Personal Gender 	Female Age 	15 Occupation 	Apprentice Doctor Affiliation 	Land of Fire It says Amaru is listed as female not a male search her and u will see ur wrong. Thank you, Sasukesgirl3161

I'm not stupid, I know she's a girl. I watched the movie. But Amaru poised as a boy, and then was later revealed to be a girl. It's stated right there in the summary.-- Ninja Sheik  01:34, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

K whatever I'm sorry I didn't read the rest of the plot and didn't know she was was pretending to be a he. K we make mistakes in life and we have to deal with them K so yes I kinda admit I was not thinking I had never seen the movie and only amvs on youtube.I saw that she was a girl and it said it was a he so I was thinking WHAT?So I fixed K I did not read the rest of the plot because I was focusing on was the part where the plot did not make sense you could have told me right off the bat why I was wrong.You didn't though so I kept going why is she changing it?When I thought I was right I was wrong but you could have just messaged me and told me to read the rest of the plot in a non-rude way.Again you didn't.This is what you said:

''Okay, listen here, I already gave you an explanation why I reverted the page. Yes, Amaru is a girl, I know. However, she was disguised as a boy for part of the movie until Naruto rescued her, so there. Read the summary, why dontcha?''

K to me that was rude and don't start calling me a cry baby because it is my opinion.You worded that in a very rude way.Please don't message me back because I don't wanna hear it.

When you said I already gave you an explanation why I reverted the page I NEVER got that first explanation.--Sasukesgirl3161

I wasn't trying to be rude. And you should also make sure you watch the rest of the movie before making edit. Could've save us a lot of time not arguing with each other. You were acting like a crybaby when you tried to erase the arguement on your page. And don't apologize to me first, apologize to Kunoichi101. She also tried to reason with you before I did. You owe her, too.-- Ninja Sheik  04:11, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Eraing talk edits
Lub, you shouldn't delete their talk page posts unless it's clear vandalism simply respond to person telling them that it's not a forum, sign your posts etc. Even if it's crazy conspiracy theories --Cerez365 (talk) 22:34, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay.-- Ninja Sheik  22:36, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ok listen I'm younger than you so what you said to me was rude to me K. You are probably in High School when you are your age that wouldn't seem rude but to how old I am if I said that to someone the way you worded it they would have thought that is rude.Expect boys..I said please don't message me back nicely but you messaged me so here. Don't message me again and read my second comment after that long paragraph why don'tcha?--Sasukesgirl3161

Sheesh, you really are just a child. Don't make such a big deal over it. It's done, and make sure you apologize to Kunoichi101 as well.-- Ninja Sheik  00:29, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

She was nice to me and said to me:

It doesn't make sense if you edit Amaru as a girl in the plot overview. <<<<(BY THE WAY I'M VERY SORRY kunoichi101)

At first I didn't get that because again I was just looking at the one part but once I read the whole plot overview I got what she meant you on the other hand said it in a different way.She said it very nicely.Again I'M VERY SORRY kunoichi101.--Sasukesgirl3161

We can we just drop it? I get it, you don't like me. Fine, whatever. I don't care. Just drop it and go.-- Ninja Sheik  00:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Help
Last time I checked, MangaHelpers had an active and helpful community of translators and scanlators. I'm sure you could find help there. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:12, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I already contacted them, but aren't they only open to offcial mangas, not doujinshis? I feel like I'm bothering them.-- Ninja Sheik  22:26, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Asking them can't hurt. If they seemed to be bothered, apologise and move on, but a simple cry for help shouldn't bother anyone. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:36, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I contact them from the button at the page, rather than going to one translator. I wanted to talk to the one who translate the Naruto manga all the time. The same one that MangaStream uses. But since I don't have an account, I couldn't. How long do you think it will take them to answer me back?-- Ninja Sheik  22:39, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I really can't tell. i have no idea how active those fora still are. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:43, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fora?-- Ninja Sheik  22:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, 'fora', the plural of 'forums'. Also, are you from the US or Canada? Because I totally forgot to wish you happy Thanksgiving even though you mentioned it. I'd be really sorry if you actually celebrate it. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

US. And thanks, Suki-senpai. I've been going on a wild goose chase all week, trying to find a way I get these doujinshis done. My head hurts. This has been such a drag for me, seriously.

By the way, I was hoping I could talk to you about Narutopedia Wiki buisness. I want to ask you something.-- Ninja Sheik  23:02, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Happy Thanksgiving then ^^ Have fun ehm... eating turkey? Any way, you are always free to ask me anything. I can't promise I can help you, but at least you can ask. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:09, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the things I wanted to ask you is if we should make a page or the Jonin Station and Amaguriama in the Leaf Village. I know you have the Naruto Offcial Databook, so you should probably know what I'm talking about.-- Ninja Sheik  23:20, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think you can make nice articles on them, then by all means make them. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:39, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Any information I need I can get from the Anime Proiles and the Databook, but I never was good with description in the first place. But will the others approve of my actions?-- Ninja Sheik  23:41, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if you're not good at descriptions, that shouldn't stop you from making articles. No article is perfect from the very beginning. Your article might be read by someone who is good at writing descriptions, but who simply didn't know about the subject of the article or never thought about it. That's why we allow everyone to edit. Together, we can make amazing articles, even if we couldn't even come close to that quality on our own.
 * As for the approval, don't worry about it. If it's an article on something from the series that had no place on the wiki before, than who could disapprove of it? —ShounenSuki (talk 00:15, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well...If I was to do it, then the pages will probably need pictures. The Jonin Station first appears during the Chunin Exam, where Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai was talking. Amaguriama is where Asuma took his squad out to eat that one time before being summoned, and the same spot Jiraiya and Naruto went to when they first met.-- Ninja Sheik  00:21, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Missing-Nin Picture
Why did you remove the picture I put of Kisame and his scratched headband?? --Fmakck (talk) 23:48, November 25, 2010 (UTC)Famkck

I get what you're trying to do, but one picture is enough. for the missing-nin page.-- Ninja Sheik  23:49, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I guess it is a pretty small page and shouldn't be crowded by pictures, but it still was useful.--Fmakck (talk) 23:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)Fmakck

Not really.-- Ninja Sheik  00:01, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever, what's done is done. --Fmakck (talk) 00:32, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Fmakck

Yeah.-- Ninja Sheik  00:34, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, did delete my edit on the sharingan !?--Uchiha-madara07

Not only it didn't belong there, but it was was written extremely poor and it was not nescessary.-- Ninja Sheik  21:44, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Chidori is a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

Not it isn't. Other users before me clearly stated that Chidori is not kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  00:01, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Could you explain yourself.--99.243.213.131

Kinjutsu are Forbidden Jutsus, right? When did it ever say in the series that Chidori is a Kinjutsu? It's not a Kinjutsu. Sasuke could do at least two Chidoris in Part I and Kakashi-sensei could do at least five Chidoris in a day.-- Ninja Sheik  00:05, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's true, but the only reason why they could use it is because they possess the Sharingan. If they didn't have it, then minato stated that the technique would be useless. That's why the first time when Kakashi used it, Minato told him never too use it, because the risks are too great.--99.243.213.131

He told him not to use it because it was imcomplete, not because the risks were too great.-- Ninja Sheik  00:54, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean incomplete? If u check the chidori page, and look at the drawbacks u will see that it says that it was too dangerous, not incomplete. Also check the use and improvement section.--99.243.213.131

Sorry, I remembering something from what the manga said. But the point is, the thing is not a kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  01:00, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

But why not? If it isnt, then okay. I just want to know the reason.--99.243.213.131

Minato saying the technique is too risky doesn't make it a kinjutsu. So far, the only technique we ever saw be deemed a kinjutsu after its creation was Rasenshuriken, by Tsunade. All others were already introduced as kinjutsu. As Minato was a Kage at the time he said Kakashi shouldn't use the Chidori, like Tsunade did with Rasenshuriken, Chidori isn't, and shouldn't be considered a kinjutsu. Techniques can be dangerous without being kinjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

But if said that Kakashi cant use it, doesn't it make it a kinjutsu?--99.243.213.131

Minato told him that the technique was incomplete, which is the reason he shouldn't use it. Not because it was a kinjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:18, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ha! So it was incomplete! I was right! Whew, that's good. For a minute there I was doubting my Naruto knowledge.-- Ninja Sheik  01:37, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

By incomplete, they were referring to the fact that he didn't possess the Sharingan. After gaining it, the technique was seen as complete cuz the drawbacks were eliminated.

Think of this. the reasenshuriken was first a danger to naruto. but after sage mode he managed to fix it so that the drawback is eliminated, therefore is now complete. just like the chidori. both of them needed a special skill of some kind to be able to complete. but even then rasen shuriken is still considered a kinjutsu. this is cuz not everyone could achieve sage mode, and as a result there version, if possible would only be the "incomplete one". just like how not everyone has the sharingan, and their chidori would be considered "incomplete", or a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

It wasn't because they didn't posses the Sharigan that it was incomplete. It was becuase even though Kakashi have the destructive power to hone it, but he didn't have the speed to back it up. "Minato told Kakashi to never again use the Chidori, because of its inherent flaw: Kakashi's eyes were not fast enough to see his opponent's counterattack, putting him in great danger." This was directly taken out from the summary of the Kakashi Gaiden's page.-- Ninja Sheik  02:49, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

That is what I'm saying. Kakashi's eyes weren't fast enough to see the movements. As a result, the techniques accuracy was extremely low, as the person could dodge and attack the user. making it lethal for the user. Only after getting the sharingan was he capable of eliminating these drawbacks, and therefore "completing" the technique. This is the same thing that happened to rasenshuriken issue.--99.243.213.131

Fine, he completed it! We know that, but that does not mean Chidori is a Kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  03:16, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

wut im tryin to say is that it is not about completion. cuz completion is basically just fixing a technique to make it flawless. the basic technique itself is dangerous if anyone without a sharingan uses it. just like if anyone that cant preform sage mode used rasenshuriken, and someone with not a lot of chakra used multi shadow clone jutsu.

Putting that factor with Minato saying that he cant use it make it a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

All right, that does it! I'm tired of this. I'm going to tell you something I should've told you in the first place: Chidori was never confirmed/classified to be Kinjutsu according to the many Anime Proiles, databooks and fanbooks in Naruto.-- Ninja Sheik  03:39, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why didn't you just put that earlier?--99.243.213.131

Because I didn't expect this to carry out so long! I wanted to explain the situation to you without bringing up the databooks and everything else. This whole "Chidoru is a Kinjutsu thing or not" didn't need to be bring up with the databooks. It's not Kinjutsu, it never was! Can we please drop this!? I'm like freakin' pissed off since I got to explain myself to everything. You should've asked Suki-senpai, she's the one that reverted your edit and she even got a reason. Why come to me?-- Ninja Sheik  03:58, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, fine. My bad. Your name was the one I saw, that's all.--99.243.213.131

Thank you! God...I'm so tired.-- Ninja Sheik  04:11, December 3, 2010 (UTC)