User talk:Dantman

Editor
Hi Dantman I am a new editor and very keen too, soo i am just requesting you to make me a sysop or rollback editor please thank you Ravendra275(Ravendra275 (talk) 16:07, March 14, 2014 (UTC))

Naruto Character Page: Indra
Hello Dantman

I need your help recently their been multiple edits regarding the Naruto character Indra's page. the details are a bit to lengthy to explain but the some of the users have came to an agreement on a specific speculation regarding the character Indra and have agreed to put into the article and pass it off as facts. this could mislead many fans that comes to read the website for reliable source and is ultimately breaking the policy. I already let them know that I was going to report them, I'm guessing one them has a position on here that allows him to lock articles to prevent other from changing the speculations within the articles. I have repeatly told them that what they where doing was wrong and that they need to provide a reference for their source. they claim that they didn't need to because everyone agreed to the speculation and it was their most logical conclusion to do so. I'm trying to do the right thing here and if there is anyway you could help It would be very appreciated.--Ankhael (talk) 20:25, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

input needed
Hi. I think this is a quite important topic, it revolves around the credibility of our articles. We shouldn't pass possibly non-canon colors as canon. Any opinion? Thanks in advance--Elveonora (talk) 13:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Handling vague age in infoboxes
Should just require a change to the regular express variables. Specifically the RegexAppend field. — S im A nt (Blog) 02:36, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * I did think of trimming the s but wouldn't that again be technically/semantically wrong because she is not exactly 30?
 * Wikia do have a Lua but I guess its not for 1.19...
 * On another note do you have any idea what might be causing the Semantic Forms error: backtrace limit exceeded during parsing! Please increase the value of pcre.backtrack-limitin the PHP settings error while form-editing?

Is that because of the size of our templates?~Ultimate Supreme  05:36, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah I guess it's wrong. The alternative since we don't actually have any by-age feature or filters is simply to drop the Age:: property when 30s is used.
 * That Lua extension is dead, the extension that runs lua on Wikipedia and other WMF wiki is Scribunto.
 * I'm not sure if that's because of the templates themselves. Considering what SF does that might actually be a case of SF using an inefficient backtracing regexp that has issues when large runs of actual content are used in a form value. Though I'm not certain.
 * ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 06:09, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * UltiSup/Dantman, that error has been there for a quite a while (about August 4th 2013). I even reported it to Wikia but it has never been fixed. See here: User talk:Simant/Archive 10 --Speysider Talk Page 10:22, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Here's Wikia's reply to my question: "'We are very, very, very close to rolling out Lua (Scribunto) to the Wikia network. Stay tuned, we'll have announcements within two to three weeks.'" ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 16:05, May 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, this is the proper extension...--~Ultimate Supreme  14:44, May 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * And finally, its here--~Ultimate Supreme  14:55, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: rollback
I made the revert because we don't add duplicate links and because the same type of edit has been undone a great many times on the wiki by many other users: simply put, if the link is in the infobox and the article is short, we don't add another link as it is pointless. Another link is only added if the article is really long and there's been a gap since it was last linked, per the Manual of Style guidelines. I should have used an explained undo, but just clicked the Rollback button in error. --Speysider Talk Page 10:20, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

ShounenSuki
I understand why this user became a sysop: Suki was the main translator to this wiki. However, I cannot fathom why said user still continues to possess a sysop flag when the user has clearly left the wiki and has no intention of returning. Wouldn't it make more sense to remove Suki's sysop flag so that people don't go and ask the user questions expecting an answer they cannot get? I've spoken to a lot of people and they can't understand why Suki is still marked as a sysop either. --Speysider Talk Page 17:50, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Custodian
Hi Dantman. One of the main things that I do on the wiki is to move images to new file names where appropriate. The problem is that this leaves redirects that then need to be tagged for deletion and that could take a while. I believe Wikia has a custodian flag that provides the ability for a user to suppress redirect creation so I'm asking if it's possible that I could be given the "custodian" flag to suppress redirects. Thanks. [if any other sysop sees this, they can chime in] --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 13:28, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll drop a message to Snapper2 as he usually deletes most of the redirects left behind, and I'll also ask Ten Tailed Fox and UltimateSupreme as they also delete similar redirects. Thanks! --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 19:28, July 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * I just checked the list of flags available on the wiki, for some reason I cannot see any flag called Custodian at all. I checked another wiki and they seem to have custodian. Is this something that needs to be enabled by Wikia Staff specifically ? EDIT: I checked on Central Wiki, it does need to be created by wiki staff, so either yourself or another sysop will have to contact Wikia in order for this to actually happen. --SuperSajuuk Talk Page 19:38, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sysop Discussion thread moderation
Will do. I only deleted that neutral post and notified the admin because there was no valid reasoning. Like Foxie said, it isn't a popularity poll, (and like you said, you won't promote based on poll, there must be reasonings). I thought I was following what you and Foxie said. But I understand. And I think I did put my reasons there... I apologize for any misunderstading. • WindStar7125     20:28, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh ok :). I understand perfectly. Thanks! • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:34, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Gadgets
The gadgets extension has been acting very weird lately. The gadgets suddenly stop working and the Gadget tab disappears from Prefs. So, it might be better to use Gadgets only for the non-essential stuff...

Since you have moved the VotesTally script to gadgets; wouldn't it make more sense to hide it by default (for users who choose to disable it)?--~Ultimate Supreme  13:08, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

'Grats
Why on earth have you just moved the VotesTally and ForumTags scripts to gadgets?! Seriously, put them back, you've just broken templates and defeated the whole point of the scripts in the first place, nor did you even ask a single person before moving them. Thanks for breaking everything for no reason at all. -_- --Sajuuk Talk Page 14:55, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree wholeheartedly. That move was pointless and now its preventing the wiki from operating whatsoever. You're more harm than good at this poor Daniel and it has to stop! I say we try hostile takeōvā #23. Honestly, do you read what you type? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:20, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Edit: I looked and apparently you put them there and made them always load. The mere fact they're gadgets annoys me, they should not be gadgets at all and should always load in the Common.js, instead of being things anyone can disable and defeating their purpose. You should have discussed this with your community, because you actually violated a consensus on the forum tags script by moving it to a gadget and making it optional for users to use, especially as your edit to the votestally script now makes it easy for anyone to go and break a template. So please, revert your edits and discuss it with the community. --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:33, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * There is a page for it: Special:Preferences
 * However, the page keeps on breaking and makes it impossible for people to disable and enable gadgets for months and months at a time, it shouldn't be used.
 * If you must have this as a gadget, make it so ForumTags and VotesTally are enabled and cannot be disabled for any reason, they're key wiki scripts. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:03, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * It does appear for me (on the Oasis skin), but usually for like one day before disappearing for months and months.
 * I think the gadgets feature is just for those scripts that can only be installed personally, which is why the forumtags and votestally scripts were put in the common.js for everyone, because they can be used site wide without violating the customisation policy. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:22, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I looked on the dev wikia and found this, which we could just import, nullifying any reason for the local script we have.
 * The AcountNav script doesn't appear to be a violation of the customisation policy as far as I can tell, so I don't really know why that is a gadget at all.
 * The file renaming script isn't really used by many and those who do use it have it in their global.js or wikia.js files.
 * The script to filter the WikiActivity is probably not used by very many people and could just be a thread with the associated code that people can add to their personal js pages.
 * Overall, that and the fact Gadgets cannot really be accessed anywhere on Wikia sites that have it active, means we could just necessary things in the common.js, at least until Wikia fixes stuff (however, because Gadgets can be manually disabled by end users, I don't see them as a substitute for scripts that need to be loaded at all times for all users). --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's subjective what would be useful in a gadget.
 * On another note, are you able to come on the onsite chat? --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:22, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, well I'll be on the chat for a little while if you wish to chat there. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:26, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * "@_@ I need 3 test users just to test one piece of functionality. lol" < isn't that kind of a proof that I was right in the first place about the forumadmin right? :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:42, October 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's generally true. But wikia provides a special  which creates a properly formatted URL for use with ResourceLoader, performs sanity checks and provides user feedback. So, it actually loads all the scripts with RL(load.php). Our common.js import currently looks like this. So, using gadgets purely for optimization is useless.
 * SigReminder actually is non-essential. That's the reason it uses  and not  . The script was added when anons could still edit here and almost every post they made was unsigned. But recently it was giving some false positives and causing trouble to some regular users. So, I felt it best to move it to Gadgets (Though I did find the cause later).
 * Gadgets tab does appear in oasis. Its just on this wiki that it randomly disappears. The Avatar and Star Wars wiki don't seem to face this problem.--~Ultimate Supreme  05:20, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have been thinking of adding it using
 * Isn't Common.css loaded by RL as well? So, can't we just put that in it?--~Ultimate Supreme  06:11, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hey, was wondering if you are available to come on the wiki chat? don't worry if you can't, but would really like to chat there :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:27, October 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Just as a note, it has been crashing lately so just be aware of that if you do come on chat. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:34, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forumadmin
Would that have a requirement for enabling the Message Walls feature? Or can it be checked without needing Message Walls enabled? Because, frankly, the idea of the forums works but it having to depend on Walls is kinda sucky. If you wish, we can chat about it on the wiki's chat room, if you have the time for that :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:26, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it's good to hear that Walls don't need to be enabled.
 * What about rollbacks though? They don't even have these specific rights and can edit anyone's posts anyway, do rollbacks get it passively by default?
 * I'll be in chat for about 30 mins tonight, if you want to chat there :P --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:45, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * That is indeed a very strange way of going about checking editing rights.
 * I really hope Wikia gets these forum rights sorted out and not dependent on the Message Walls feature, because it makes so little sense to depend on that. o.O
 * You should get involved in the forums development imo. :P
 * (I hope you didn't miss my chat room request above)
 * --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:54, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Archive
You might want to consider archiving your talkpage, as it has messages dating back to 2010 on it currently, making it pretty long (and I'm certain that its length is likely going to be violating the Wikia TOU for breaking wikia features [the bottom black bar doesn't pop out], plus usertags aren't updating [for personal js or local commons js], and the toc box doesn't expand) --Sajuuk Talk Page 12:56, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

New Sysop
I see you're still here. You have read all the threads carefully, I assume? Are you still deciding who will be a sysop? Just asking. • WindStar7125     22:53, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Decision
Before you make your decision on Speysider (Sajuuk), I just want to say again in my honest opinion he should stick with what he has now. He may make helpful edits and maintains the forums, but he does not at times approach or speak to others appropriately to be a sysop. And after how he spoke to Ultimate3, it proves he doesn't have the correct sysop attitude. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 01:35, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Says the person who is rude to just about everyone who doesn't get their own way. --Sajuuk Talk Page 08:18, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

By the way...
How is the ForumAdmin flag working out? I'd like for us mods to actually be ForumMods with the flag who are able to control the boisterousness of the forums (and close them if necessary) rather than just having the green markers to our names... Unfortunately, forums have become more of a thorn in our side rather than a valuable asset to the wiki... • WindStar7125     01:53, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right, things like editing other's posts shouldn't be allowed to anyone but moderators. And Mods should be able to close threads that get out of hand as well, rather than wait on sysops to take action. And what exactly are those two groups? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 04:31, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. Not to sound impatient, but approximately how long would that take? • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 04:33, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd like to ask if the forum "admin" group (the one that will get the block rights) can also have MediaWiki page access? There is a mediawiki page that controls the forum policy page and I'd like to have access to edit that page (as well as the ForumChanges.js page) without requesting sysops to do so. --Sajuuk Talk Page 08:18, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * May I also be added to the ForumAdmin group? It would be great to help out Sajuuk manage the chaos on the forums. • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 13:01, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * ^ I would agree with this, also I think that the forumadmin group should have the ability to grant both forumadmin and forummoderator, but forumadmin should also be able to remove forummoderator, but not forumadmin. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:04, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reply

 * "The rights to edit those two protected pages would be the protect right that lets you edit every protected page on the wiki, protect, unprotect, and edit every site-wide JS page on the wiki."
 * No, the MediaWiki pages are covered by the "editinterface" right, not the "editprotectedpages" right.
 * "JS permissions are also a dangerous thing to give out. Besides being easily broken, and having a potential for malicious insertion of malware or incompetent insertion of XSS vectors, they can be used to trick sysop accounts into using sysop powers."
 * Way over-dramatic, especially as forumadmin is very unlikely to be given to many people.
 * Honestly, if you trust people to block users, you can trust them not to be malicious with other things: otherwise, why bother granting block tools if you don't trust users with the forumadmin right?
 * Also, while I'm at it: will it include the boardedit right? That, I believe, is required to edit the forum boards. Also, if you can, please come onto chat. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:09, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * "It only seems to work where cascading protection isn't used."
 * That would be pretty much every protected page on this wiki then, since cascading protection is pretty much not used here (if it is, I have never seen any such pages)
 * "I don't know how many people I'm going to be giving Forum Admin in the end, or what the variety of trust they have is."
 * I doubt very many people will have that, for the most part it'll be more like having a maximum of 2 users with forumadmin (at the start anyway) and a lot of people with forummoderator. From my perspective, since I'll probably be the only user with that flag, it will probably be my call to decide who gets forumadmin alongside myself anyway.
 * " is significantly different than trusting someone with the rights to insert malware, break the site such that the average sysop doesn't understand how to access the tools to undo it, and trick users with higher permissions into doing actions like rights grants that can only be undone by staff."
 * The chances of someone deliberately going out of their way to add javascript/jquery code to break the site is close to zero. There's almost no chance of it happening, I don't think there is any need to worry that anyone with the ability to add javascript code is literally going to start trying to get people's passwords or stuff like that.
 * I'll be on chat for next hour if you wish to talk more there. --Sajuuk Talk Page 20:51, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

rights
Cheers! It does seem you were right that boardedit does nothing. However, I noticed sysops cannot make people "forum admins". Is this temporary for now, or will it be added by Wikia?

If possible, may you come on the wiki chat so I can ask something in real time? --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:20, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Wikia generally tends to make mistakes when giving the rights. Similar happened on TES Mods wiki (I'm a sysop there) when I asked for a patroller group to be made, along with updates to rollback and sysop).
 * Also, since I'm the only forumadmin atm, will the overall decision for who gets it be my call, similarly like how becoming sysop is your call?
 * Also, last note: I'm guessing you don't want to come on Special:Chat? --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:48, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * What I was referring to is that, overall, even if the whole community says X should be Y, it's still your call whether to give Y to X (in this case Y = sysop, X = a user up for consideration).
 * Since most sysops are not going to be focusing on forums, whereas I will be, I will have more of an idea of who is more suitable for being Forum Admin (and by extension, Forum Mod) than most people, which is why I said what I did.
 * There's no point in people having the same tools as myself (forumadmin) if
 * I don't see them doing much forum admin stuff
 * They've not been a forum mod at any point
 * I don't have enough trust in them not to abuse the tools
 * Does that make somewhat sense now?
 * Also, on that note, I should point out that the only thing that I am missing in terms of tools for the forums is the ability to highlight threads, which I am going to assume comes from an actual right, as you can't highlight wall posts.
 * Regarding chat: that is understandable, but I find it easier to communicate with the chat than talkpages as of late. --Sajuuk Talk Page 22:19, October 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's fine. Highlighting is not a major thing: in fact, it's positively minor, as very few threads would be highlighted anyway :P
 * Two things I might as well ask: I understand that I have block tools for the forums. What happens in cases where I'm seeing obvious vandalism in mainspace and there are no sysops online? In cases like that, is it ok for me to use block as a temporary probationary measure? Same in cases where a user is deliberately violating mainspace policies and there aren't sysops online to deal with the issue and a user in such cases has been given a lot of warnings already about said policy violations?
 * Also, I looked back on the RfA for myself and noticed many users made claims that I did not edit the mainspace very much. I'll just drop this link to my mainspace contributions which make the claims of "not much mainspace" activity look weak and unfounded. While I agree I don't edit "every single day", I do edit very regularly within the mainspace, despite claims that forum activity is more important to me than the rest of the site.
 * Obviously changes nothing, but just thought I'd put this here as a note of interest. --Sajuuk Talk Page 09:47, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright. If, however, sysops aren't showing interest in an issue and are ignoring requests to get involved, can I give short probationary blocks? So as to avoid abusing the tools, I'm probably going to only block for 3 days maximum, to act as short probation blocks. In the case of blocking when nobody is around, it'll only be for a day max so that a sysop can see the block and check if it's valid.
 * One other thing: User:Snapper2's page is against Userpage policy. I pointed this out to TU3, who did delete the page. However, Snapper chose to recreate the page with virtually the same content that got it deleted in the first place, essentially trolling and wilfully breaking policy he is meant to be enforcing. I'd be appreciative if you could step in and point this out and delete his userpage again, requesting he actually follow the policy like every other user here. Thanks. --Sajuuk Talk Page 22:35, October 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * I also have another question to ask: will there be a later update to the forumadmin flag, where users with said flag can grant and revoke the forummod flag? It would make a lot of sense for such users to have this particular right, but I can understand if you don't want it that way just now. --Sajuuk Talk Page 09:03, October 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * I understand I'm overthinking it, but I want to ensure I don't end up being called out for supposedly "abusing" block tools, even when I'm using it legitimately. A fair few people on here seem to like to find reasons to get on my case unnecessarily, even when I'm doing things to help out the wiki.
 * I saw the highlight thing, I've already tried it out on a chapter discussion thread in the forums. :P
 * And in regards to userpages, the policy itself has only just re-iterated the original policy. I just don't think it's fair we enforce the userpage policy on everyone else, but Snapper just somehow gets to have a userpage that has no relevance to users as an editor. Considering TheUltimate3 deleted the userpage, citing the policy, Snapper proceeded to recreate it with no difference, essentially wilfully violating the policy. Is this someone that should be a sysop?
 * No offence to Snapper, but these days, I don't see him doing anything except complaining and going against policy quite a lot. This isn't someone that should be a sysop in my opinion, especially as other users I've spoken to agree that his userpage is against policy. I've had half a mind to tag it for deletion, but refrained from doing so for being called stupid or rude. --Sajuuk Talk Page 21:08, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Question
According to what I have heard from other rollbacks and sysops, users who are not moderators shouldn't be allowed to have the ability to remove others' posts. Yet they do anyway. I've heard that's a bug that Wikia is trying to fix so that only users with the rights of moderators and admins can remove and edit others' posts. Do you have any idea of the progress on that? Many thanks. :) • WindStar7125     21:51, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re: forum
I understand that I don't get to make decisions like that, but I had already discussed with many users before I ever got the flag and it was agreed by quite a lot of users to split up the boards, including other forum moderators and a sysop. So I didn't feel that making a discussion just to hear the exact same messages being posted was productive and was really a waste of time.

And I closed the announcement since it wasn't really something that needed discussion. Most announcement threads go off topic quite easily by users just making useless posts with no regard to the topic at hand. If a user wanted to raise an issue about the topic (which I couldn't see any chance of happening, since I don't see any complaints right now), they could let me know and I'd open the thread. However, since it was an urgent issue with the forums, I felt it necessary to simply split up the boards as soon as possible so that we could see what topics we were dealing with, but future issues will be discussed

You need to understand, however, that most of the forum community aren't interested in discussions and will just support everything that is made and most of the mainspace community aren't interested in the forums anyway, so a discussion would be quite redundant. In my opinion, with this forum community, I would prefer just to make changes since I have been trusted with these tools to make changes to the forums and I think a lot of the forum community can trust me to make the right judgement call.

Also, no offence, but "Forum Operator" will make no sense to many users and it will be just be confusing to people. Forum Admin makes a lot more sense to the community and will make it more likely people will actually ask me for assistance. --Sajuuk Talk Page 08:49, October 31, 2014 (UTC)
 * ^^^You sure about that Sajuuk? Remember, Admin = Sysop. Forum Admin would = Forum Sysop, and that would confuse a lot of users. Instead of being a System Operator, you're a Forum Operator. A For-op, if you will (yeah, not the same ring to it as "sysop," but whatever). • WindStar7125   WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 03:01, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
I know you aren't a very keen advocate of chat, but I was hoping we could have a quick discussion about something. It is more an opinion discussion I wish to have and it would be easier to have that discussion on chat, than a talkpage. --Sajuuk Talk Page 15:31, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Special:Forms
Hi, Dantman

I wanted to do with you if you can bring the Special:Forms for wiki PT-BR? --Shodai Tsuchi (talk) 12:42 (in Brazil), November 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * Dantman can't enable it and even if he could, he wouldn't because it's not requestable. --Sajuuk Talk Page 14:45, November 20, 2014 (UTC)

re: unused templates
I noticed you kept some of the templates I had tagged (eg Template:CommonFix, Template:No episode no). I tagged them as unused because Special:WhatLinksHere never indicated that they were being used. I didn't just tag them because I didn't think they were linked, I made sure to check they were not linked before I actually tagged them. No episode no, in particular, is linked nowhere so it's pretty redundant (if it was being used in another template as you stated in the summary, WhatLinksHere would state that.) --Sajuuk Talk Page 12:59, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, wasn't aware it had some limitations. But is Licensors even used on any other page on the wiki? If it isn't, it should probably be deleted. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:14, November 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Do any of the infoboxes at Infobox/Animanga get used anywhere on the wiki? I'm pretty sure they got replaced with Infobox/Naruto style infoboxes. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:20, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Template Help for new Wikia
Hello, erm I'm starting a wikia that provides information on multiple shonen animanga, not just Naruto, but can I ask, how do you create templates as high quality as the ones for the characters on this wikia? --TheShonenOtaku (talk) 00:06, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

IMDb
Hey! I saw that you were admin at the IMDb wiki. I was wondering if you could promote me too? Their currently isn't any active admins and i'd like to fix it up a bit with colors and wordmarks and all. Tysonjackson (talk) 20:42, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

re: Simant
Hey Dantman. I have no idea if you are still active on the wiki, but I would like to discuss Simant. He seems to have vanished completely from the wiki and does not log into it anymore. Considering that UltimateSupreme seems to satisfy our coding requirements, what should be done with Simant? I know he is a great coder himself and helped with a majority of our infoboxes here, but if he's not active then it might be better that his sysop flag be removed (via consensus in a discussion/vote). Please reply with your thoughts, thank you. --Sajuuk Talk Page 17:58, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Seeing as you are on wiki, you able to come on chat? Understandable if you can't, but just wanted to quickly ask you something. --Sajuuk Talk Page 22:46, November 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * The thread on WindStar7125's RfA to Forum Op is being littered in abusive, intimidating and bogus posts. I have also blocked a sockpuppet that was made to skew the opinions of the community. I would advise watching it carefully as it looks like people are simply bringing in personal biases against the candidate, instead of giving legitimate reasonings. --Sajuuk Talk Page 13:59, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Profanity filter
Ok, thanks for your help. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:12, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

HELP pls ;_; infobox matter
i do not know how to do infobox, like for naruto uzumaki. --Akaisei14 (talk) 14:56, December 4, 2014 (UTC)Akasei14
 * I'll answer him, Dantman.--Mangekyō Sharingan Naka.svgJOA''20' 15:02, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

WEN ? , joa, smw semantic forms, templates, i have mind f++ right now and i dunno about something (installations, computer prpts, ..) i dunno how 2 do form character, whatis that program one from nfanon said nor how named (maybe was talking about smw or sf), infobox characters the alternative is hard, making learn try to do infobox templates ibchar, really unknow how form\character, porcodio se non sò..

ID LIKE to be indipendent, but, right now, i cant

*cough* *cough* *wheeze*
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:145502

Re: Naruto Storm character art
Yes and no. The color tint isn't used during gameplay, but it's used for the character select images, which are also distributed as hi-resolution art assets in official press kits. When distributed in press kits (in .PSD format), the file contains three layers: one with the art asset using the original anime coloring, a color balance layer with the yellowed color shift, and a solid white background. However, disabling the color shift and background layers gives you a clean, transparent image with an anime accurate colorscheme and a smaller filesize.

It's not an especially important or pressing issue, but considering that these particular assets are used rather extensively on the wiki in the appearance sections, I thought that it might be worthwhile to take the extra step of disabling the color shift and BG layer when outputting the images when uploading them in the future. FF-Suzaku (talk) 05:34, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Erm...
You really need to do something with this, there's a clear support for WindStar7125 to become a forum op and the wiki is sorta expecting him to be promoted... --Sajuuk Talk Page 19:37, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Link interwiki
I really like this wiki, including my SVG's tasks, but my wiki every was the pt-br link interwiki here and a few months ago has been replaced by another wiki that even had part of the development here. Please you can correct it? Because this discourages me to continue contributing here... → Hyūga_Symbol.svg Rafael Uchiha  Uchiha_Symbol.svg  03:57, January 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^No worries, Dantman, it's all good. It's fixed.  ~•WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 04:14, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

re: emails
Hi Dan. Just posting here to let you know I sent you an email that needs a somewhat urgent response. Hopefully you can reply to it when you can. --Sajuuk Talk Page 23:41, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

re: Mohamed adhel block
Previously, Snapper2 blocked a user for one year when a user made one single move page vandalism edit. I disputed that block but it was never removed or reduced in length, despite the fact it was nothing more than drive by vandalism.

In this case, the user moved Shizune to a fanon name and back multiple times. I felt that, because this was repetitive behaviour (and I was the only user online at the time), I felt it necessary to inform the user not to do it and then blocked for a week (I could have blocked longer, but I was being lenient). I'll admit I should not have removed their tp rights, but he had removed my message completely which was, in the context, vandalism as well.

In recent months, the number of sysops on the wiki has vastly decreased and I have found myself the only user with block tools online a lot of the time, so it feels as though most of these menial things are having to be handled by myself, despite the fact that this is not what I'm signed up for.

To expand on this, Snapper only really comes on once a week, TU3 is only usually available during work day hours, UtimateSupreme is generally very busy and only available randomly and Omni barely shows up anymore. This basically leaves the wiki to only a very small number of people, 95% of the time it generally falls to me to deal with vandals who are appearing frequently when only I'm online...

I hope this helps... --Sajuuk talk 01:18, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Noted, however I think it's completely pointless that I have the block tools and I can't do anything. Honestly, all the "disruptive" users have been taken care of or they only longer come to this wiki, so there's no reason for forum op's to be able to block any further anyway. Also, sysop requests page is useless and no sysop actually "cares" to do anything until many hours later. --Sajuuk talk 10:10, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Slight correction, I am available at all hours except past 10pm EST. And you did call me out the last time I actually did handled requests I found on the sysop page.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 10:21, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Corrected then, however we both know that we don't see "eye-to-eye" about anything on the wiki. @Dan: If you can, join chatbox.... --Sajuuk talk 10:23, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine... I would have no objection to it being recorded if it is necessary to leave a trail :/ --Sajuuk talk 10:30, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Copy/paste? lol, or we could just use IRC or some other recordable system if that would be appropriate. --Sajuuk talk 10:35, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, have fun doing whatever it is you do. :P --Sajuuk talk 10:39, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Noted. It's for those reasons that we need more forum moderators and it would be a lot better if I didn't have to ask sysops to grant that flag either. --Sajuuk talk 11:16, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Founder
Are you founder of this narutopedia? Sasuke79 (talk) 10:11, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes he is.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 10:21, January 22, 2015 (UTC)

Moderators
Dantman, I'm not sure if you are aware, but the Wikia Forums and Message Wall features have been completely updated with a new set of permissions. The new rights are listed here. As a result, can you contact Wikia to update the Forum Operator group to include the new rights? However, I am not yet sure of the moderator group because it includes "notifyeveryone" (currently a sysop and forum op right) and "wallremove" (this may just be the standard remove this thread and not the "walladmindelete"). Thanks for reading. --Sajuuk talk 13:41, January 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Noted. --Sajuuk talk 11:16, January 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi. Me and WindStar were talking on chat a couple days ago and were wondering if you could contact Wikia to add the walladmindelete right to the Forum Operators group? This would give forum op's the ability to completely delete a thread from view, but I do not know if that particular right also requires the general "deletepages" right for mainspace. If you could, please look into this further, thanks. --Sajuuk talk 10:19, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, just thought you should know that I have worked out what editwallarchivedpages does now. When the message walls feature is activated, the current text on a user talkpage is placed in an archive. That user right basically controls who can edit that archive, much the same way we have forumoldedit to control who can edit the old wiki-style forums when we enabled the forum module. --Sajuuk talk 16:15, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor
I deem you a traitor for using Wikia's abomination of a Visual Editor! Get back to using Source ;) --Sajuuk talk 01:16, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, he is right. Visual Editor is screwy and does mess things up. Look at this for example.
 * -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 01:22, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * I know what VE it is. But VE on Wikia is very buggy and unfit for use. Particularly on this wiki, it will just do massive page blanks for no reason, or move interlanguage links around for no reason either. The generic Source Editor is massively better, especially for this wiki. --Sajuuk talk 01:24, January 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Attempts to reproduce issues and report them would be nice. Corruption to content is not random or reasonless, it never has been. FCKEditor's and Wikia's RTE screw ups were for known reasons and we hated them because we knew those reasons were baked into the foundation of how they worked and could never be fixed. VisualEditor is fundamentally completely different and doesn't have those fundamental flaws. If it's corrupting things then it's something that can actually be fixed. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 01:44, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Location/Village infoboxes
Hey I just started a discussion of a possibility to integrate infoboxes for locations and or villages and I was wondering what you think of it. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 20:37, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: You and SuperSajuuk
I'm usually not even in the chat, but if someone constantly hits back at me whenever and whereever I say something, I'm not going to keep silent. It's nearly impossible for me to post anything without getting a reminder of SuperSajuuk that what I posted is wrong or, even better, that I'm abusing my rights/tools. From my point of view, I'm just doing what I understand to be a sysop's job, so when I mention that job, it's not about abusing it, but using it as a legitimate reason for my doing. I would never run around shoving it in everyone's face, that much should be obvious.

Furthermore, if you and the other sysops are asked to deal with this, then why didn't you answer my email? And why is there no public discussion about it? SuperSajuuk and the others said that the whole wiki is against me and that I'll be demoted soon enough, so why is there no thread about me? My answer: Because it's a put-up affair (or whatever you call it) by these people to get me demoted. They know that I would never lose my sysop status if they created a thread, so they use everything they can find against me, to make me publically seem like a prick. Or how to you explain answers like this on posts like this? Even if what I say is in no way wrong, they make it seem as if.

So yeah, that's all there is to it. If you feel like removing my sysop status or banning me from the wikia, go ahead. I told SuperSajuuk that I'm not bound to this wiki and I can only tell you the same. I care way too little to constantly be put up with this shit. And if you would ask other sysops, I believe they would whole-heartedly agree. I'm not the only one who's fed up with SuperSajuuk's antics, I'm just the only one who speaks out against it. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:24, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, to me, it is a job. I act in the interest of the wiki when I act as a sysop. As I probably mentioned a thousand times by now, I have much experience in that position and I came into the wiki with that experienced mindset. It's only natural that there will be conflicts every now and then, because my views and ways are obviously different than what this wiki is used to. What I just don't understand is why some people have to work behind my back against me because of that. It should be obvious that if someone has a problem with me, they can come to me and talk to me about it. Instead I hear that people go to SuperSajuuk or other guys and complain to them about me. And as I heard from others, SuperSajuuk himself asks people to come to the chat just to ridicule me there, telling them what a prick I am. All instead of just talking to me on a professional level.


 * From my point of view, the situation isn't bad. Or at least, not to me. I'm not throwing insults at anyone as long as they don't anger me and I'm still open for constructive criticism. I can till be argued with, I just detest the current ways of SuperSajuuk. His personal vendetta against me is his (and probably your) problem, not mine. I just react accordingly. • Seelentau 愛 議 15:41, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Block on JustaNobody
I would like you to look into the block made by Snapper2 on the user JustaNobody. I don't believe that the user has actively harmed the wiki and has made good faith edits, yet Snapper has basically made a threat to JustaNobody that he will be blocked for 6 months if he makes even a single edit towards an article. I'm not going to get involved in telling Snapper2 that the block is unreasonable and basically goes against all general wiki principles that editors make good faith edits to improve the wiki: JustaNobody felt the edits were needed, and I definitely don't see how a block will change anything, nor is making threats. Thank you. --Sajuuk talk 21:09, February 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * No analogies are needed. I just felt that the user was being persecuted just because they were trying to improve the wiki (everyone has their own way of thinking about how to improve the wiki, they just felt that their edits were meant to make the article better). Maybe the user felt that when they were making the edits, they took into consideration their previous warnings. Sometimes I have felt certain users deliberately just revert edits they don't want to read even though they may be valid. Anyway, thank you for looking into it. --Sajuuk talk 09:18, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Soul Eater wiki
I remember you being the admin back when I made a few edits there in 2011, and I'm having a bit of trouble with a current admin whose not really explaining why my edits are wrong beyond "that's the way we've been doing other pages since 2013". I'm not at all asking for you to join in an argument, especially since it looks like a lost cause, but more asking to satisfy curiosity: could you explain (here is fine), what is the reasoning beyond the policies cited here that I was apparently violating? It sounds like the current admins are trying to just copy the formatting used back when you were in charge, and I really just want an explanation for why the formatting is that way. 20:11, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * The admin has helped me understand that I am able to suggest changes to this format, so basically, before I try and start a forum advocating change, I want to know what the rationale for the following formats was:


 * Using "also known as" instead of "also translated as".
 * Apparent category redundancy between stuff like "World", "Race", "Soul Eater", "Anime", and "Manga" (ex. the Demon article).
 * Once I know the rationale, I can explain a list of pros and cons to the community to demonstrate why my suggestion is preferable. 01:23, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

CreditsTable
What is this? Is it related to this or...? 22:55, May 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Dan! Yea I tried pasting my copied work onto the Module:CreditsTable/names (you know to add to the list of Seiyū actors) but it wouldn't let me. --Rai 水 (talk) 03:35, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Truth is I'm not even sure if I'm entering it right. I saw that it was going by alphabetical order so I just prssed enter which added an extra line skip and number, and I tried to place my copied names in between the alphabet of names it fit in but obviously it didn't work. Is it a specific way to enter it or...? --Rai 水 (talk) 03:46, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup thats what I was doing. I manually was writing down the format structure but my question is do I enter the data from the box part that has the clear part on it or...? --Rai 水 (talk) 03:56, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay so what I was doing is right. Now that I confirmed that I was putting the data in the right place, the only problem I'm having then is as I said before, it won't let me paste. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:03, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, so I implemented the on the latest episode page and it looks good. One issue though is that, sometimes, unnamed shinobi appear in an episode and this causes a redlink to appear. In many cases, the unnamed shinobi have multiple VA's. How do we want to go about this particular issue? Popups or redirects? --Sajuuk  talk 12:06, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, awesome! Shakhmoot will be happy, as he was asking about those. If we could put in something to kill the link if only [] style is present, it would be useful for those un-named shinobi. --Sajuuk talk 13:17, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! We should really make more use of LUA for things like this: what other templates could be converted into lua? Am thinking the various policy notice messages could be lua'fied. ;) --Sajuuk talk 13:29, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Might wanna start with then. The infoboxes are just built using it--~Ultimate <span style="color:#f00; text-shadow: 0px 1px 0.4px #f33, 1px 0px 1px white, 2px 2px 6px #f33, -2px -2px 6px #f33;">Supreme  14:33, May 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it possible that the new creditstable could have obvious defaults? Characters such as Naruto and Sakura are never going to have a voice actor change, so it would be better for those to be hardcoded in some way, so that you only need to write "Naruto Uzumaki" to get the full table row. Not sure if it's possible though, but I'll let you work out some solution ;) --Sajuuk talk 17:14, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

double post script
Hey, thanks for jumping into that discussion for the credits table! I did notice that you've lowered the amount of time a user needs to wait before they can post again, if they're the latest poster. What number was it changed to? We were thinking that a couple of days is better, since people don't really need to wait too long to get a reply from another user. Of course, we could place in an exception list so that certain users don't need to worry about the script (sysops and forum ops), but I don't know whether it'd be possible. --Sajuuk talk 09:33, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * 30 minutes seems suitable. Of course, if users begin to abuse it, we can just raise the limit again. Also, not everyone makes use of email notifications to check threads, instead opting to use the bell for checking new posts. ;) --Sajuuk talk 10:01, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, 30 mins isn't suitable. There is a bug with Wikia's time server settings, where it never applies any offset, which means that any timestamps on posts don't apply the offset and result in the notice never applying. For this, we need to set the expiry to at least 1 day, or the notice will not fire (which it doesn't for me, since there's an hour gap between the "real" time and the "supposed" time on the posts. So it needs to be 24 hours, no less or the scripts don't work. :/ --Sajuuk talk 10:56, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Possible, but I don't know what timezone Wikia uses for the timestamp on posts (which is where part of the script gets its time capture information from to determine if a double post is allowed if time expired). --Sajuuk talk 11:02, May 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's cool. Is there a CDN version of the moment.js script that could be imported? --Sajuuk talk 11:34, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Chat?
Hey Dan. Just wondered if you could hop onto chat for 5 mins or so. Only a minor thing though. :) --Sajuuk talk 19:40, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe? Only for a minute or two. :) --Sajuuk talk 11:13, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: CreditsTable (IMDB)
Yea I noticed that the link of imdb didn't bring you straight to voice actor, but I was trying to give proper evidence as imdb is our primary source for credits not necessarily Wikipedia which doesn't have some of the vpice actors as opposed to imdb which seemingly have all if not most. I mean its not like they wouldn't find the voice actor in the list, it seemingly would be the first one but I don't if there is a way to make the link go straight to the page itself. I'm not that experienced when it comes to wiki tools. --Rai 水 (talk) 03:51, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * If possible, the ANN (Anime News Network) website is the more trustworthy than Imdb for the voice actors, I mainly got their names from there. But seems the problem will be the same. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 07:47, June 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in, but this is my two cents: I edit on a different wiki that used Imdb as a source for VAs, too. Unfortunately, we later learned that the info presented on the site was entirely wrong, and that wiki created a rule that we should never use it again. Imdb can be edited by anyone, too. ANN, a site I also used for info, is actually a lot more reliable since it's an official news site.-- Ninja Sheik  18:36, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

tranclan
There, I made a CT for removing TranClan's crat flag. Pls join chat --Sajuuk talk 10:42, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Block settings
If a user creates an account with the single mindset to insert bullshit into articles, I don't believe that telling them to stop that does anything. If he were to be swayed by that, he wouldn't have created that account in the first place. The situation (or thought) [I'm going to create an account and spam the wiki. Oh, they're telling me to stop. Okay, I better stop then.] won't come into existence with these guys. Hence my infinite blocks on vandals. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:13, June 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Which while super valid and logical should still be tempered with the expectation that a 2 week ban will give the person in question to calm down and either contribute to the wiki normally when the block is lifted or never return. That being said, a vandal who is replacing an entire article with obscene ascii art should be insta-banned forever. Different levels of vandalism requires different ways of handling it. And that is TheUltimate3's contribution to this.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 11:17, June 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Gonna abide by that in the future. Not that I believe in it, based on my experience, but well, this ain't my wiki. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:19, June 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Also there's another relevant note the block policy has has put into it. A number of these 1-time vandals you feel like infinite blocking right away never come back anyways. Having an active block for them ends up being pointless since there's no-one to stop from coming back. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 11:23, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

private discussion
I don't know how often you check your talkpage, but there's a matter I'd like to discuss with you in private. If private chat isn't suitable, let me know and I'll discuss via emails instead. It's something I'd like to get sorted out this weekend if possible. --Sajuuk tce 20:24, June 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Emails it is then. --Sajuuk tce 09:14, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * I emailed you back a couple days ago, not heard a reply. Just wondering if you got that message?
 * Also, might want to look into this. --Sajuuk Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk 13:18, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Policy
Hello Dantman. Not to bother you, but I decided to bring your attention to something, and maybe to others if they see this and read it. SuperSajuuk has been abusing his chat moderator rights and ignoring the Chat policy, going as far as admitting that he doesn't even follow them most of the time. Not only does he spam emotes and allows others to do it, but he also brings about raging discussions about several Sysops in the chat, talking s_it about them with his predatory behavior. Also, and this happened the moment I'm writing this, he feels that he shouldn't stop doing that and if I, or anyone else for that matter, don't like that he's being predatory, we should just leave the chat, even though the chat is free for anyone to use. Lastly, he allows (and does it himself) to discuss article-related changes in the chat, which is not allowed according to the policy. Not to be a bother, but could you maybe talk to him, his predatory behavior, not only in the chat, but overall, is getting pretty annoying.--Omojuze (talk) 12:23, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Omojuze, stop being butthurt. I'm not abusing my chat moderator rights, I use them as and when they're necessary. And as I've explained to you many times, chat policy is only there in the cases of extreme problems. It's not there to make moderators deal with every little issue that comes up.
 * I'm very close to just wiki-blocking you. I don't know what your problem is, but you have been trolling and acting like only your opinion matters. This is you just assuming that everyone is required to follow the absolute word and not the spirit of the policy. --Sajuuk Special:Contributions/SuperSajuuk 12:25, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * A policy only exists when it's needed and can be ignored if one sees fit. Whaaaa?--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 12:29, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then, why is Chat policy even here if you don't bother following it? It doesn't apply to you? And it's necessary to kick me out of chat just because you didn't like when I said to stop your predatory behavior? K.
 * And what... Only "MY" opinion matters. Sounds like someone else I know.. And I'm not sure where or when have I done that, but I can think of plenty of times when you did.--Omojuze (talk) 12:29, June 25, 2015 (UTC)