Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-142748-20150410212019/@comment-142748-20150412000246

Sanbi221 wrote: SuperSaiyaMan wrote: Sanbi221 wrote: You forget that you don't have to look Itachi in the eyes to be put under a genjutsu. All he has to do is point his finger at you, and if you see that you're done for. An inexperienced Naruto wasn't done for especially if he can put up a resistance against it. Ukatata doesn't seem all that useful in the grand scheme of things - it hadn't been used once since the Shoten Itachi fight. Either since its a low level genjutsu or that Itachi deems its worth of not that high. But Naruto still wasn't able to break out of it. He also wasn't able to use the MS since he was fighting through Pain's shapeshifting technique. Itachi was also capable of casting Triple-layered genjutsus. Granted the 1st could probably break out of them but it wouldn't be immediately. Even if it's only a couple of seconds, it would be long enough for Itachi to kill him. But putting a post-Timeskip Naruto, who hadn't been tested at all against genjutsu, isn't a feat. What would be is Naruto's resistance, if Naruto, who at the time had such sucky chakra control, he could resist Ukatata, why couldn't anyone who is stronger than him break it instantly?

Itachi through the Shoten Technique was limited by Chakra. He was limited just to his base form since all of his Mangekyo techniques took more than 30% of his chakra.

QuakingStar wrote:"Its can depend on air conditions, but the typical lightning bolt moves at 224,000 mph -- or about 3,700 miles per second. However, the light you see from the lightning obviously travels at the speed of light, which is roughly 670 million mph, or 186,000 miles per second." Itachi had Susanoo up and read for even THAT. Kirin is natural lightning. Itachi needs more than just reaction speed, that takes speed to be able to block that. That's when it travels around the sky, it can cover vast distances. But when Lightning strikes the earth, it always takes much longer due to various resistances (wind, rain, gravitational). The speed of lightning isn't the speed of light either, its far slower than light, the visible light it gives off is light speed but the lightning itself is far slower.

The time it would take to hit the ground would be 5-6 seconds, if not more if it arced over time through the air. Itachi blocking it isn't that impressive - as I reiterate, any high or top tier can replicate what Itachi did. Its no different than Sasuke, low on chakra, summoning then genjutsuing Manda, hopping into his mouth and unsummoning himself as CO went off.