Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26403664-20160228225013/@comment-27660682-20160229022800

Gmanis41 wrote: QuakingStar wrote: Don't sweat them MIG, they're butthurt Itachi despisers. They hate an anime/manga character.. he's not even fucking real! xD you guys need to get off of the internet and live life. This is ridiculous lmfao

It was wrong of me to call anyone an Itachi fanboy, and I apologize, that was immature of me. However you are making the same type of straw man that I made by calling me an Itachi hater. I throughly enjoy Itachi. He is one of the most complex characters of the story. His journey is tragic and the way how he realized his mistakes is inspiring for me to become a better person. I am only analyzing him as a combatant. And there is no way he can defeat Madara or Hashirama without help.

@Migshinobi "Baseless claims with no evidence supporting them. We dont know what stage of susanoo was used to block kirin, and itachi implied it was the skeletal version. Mirror would adapt its properties to counter jinton, which is a ninjutsu. Same goes for truth seeking balls and boil release. Like I said the difference is who is attributing the feat." You can't prove other wise. Itachi did not imply that.

"Madara saying he can destroy all things is foolish because we already know he canocially lost to hashriama with his perfect susanoo in his lifetime" No because it's claim, just like the claim made by Black Zetsu. By that logic than Black Zetsu was foolish because he claimed that Itachi was impossible to defeat yet he lost the battle.

"Then the writer himself giving the yata mirror its hype. Nowhere was the yata mirror retconned, and black zetsu very clearly said the yata mirror turns back any attack." Kishimoto has a trend of forgetting and making many mistakes in his manga. And no Black Zetsu says the miror can withstand attacks from all 5 elements. So your proof is false.

"The databooks are just as infallible as the manga itself, both have inconsistencies as they were both written by human beings." No they aren't. The databooks are supplemental material to help expand the Naruto universe. It's the same thing with Dragon Ball and the Dai Zenshu. Or Star Wars and the Expanded Universe. The databooks are not the story in which the conditions nor the material from the databooks are used in, you are also using evidence from an out-dated source.

I'm done responding to the same points. All you are doing is just re-stating your claims and saying my posts don't have evidence. The problem is you are making the claim and while you are presenting evidence, it isn't sufficient as I can provide counter-examples. The burden of proof is on you. Even so I am providing evidence, if you provide me an example that shows otherwise I will relent however that is not the case. Your posts dont have evidence. Meanwhile im citing a reputable document, databook 3. Madara saying what he said was a lie because we already knew he lost to hashriama. What battle did itachi lose? You mean purposely killing himself for sasuke? Black Zetsu is a credible source and what he said wasn't refuted, unlike madara. Chapter 391 page 15, itachi says if I didnt have this ( his skeletal susanoo) he would be dead. You have no proof he even used the yata mirror, or if susanoo was even destroyed in the first place. He could have just deformed it after the mountain collasped. You seriously keep making claims without evidence and claim that I dont? When all my evidence explicitly comes from the writer and credible character.

Oh so now you are gonna lie about what black zetsu said too? On chapter 393 page 9 he says the shield can turn back any attack.

Ah, now you are using the same argument I already used, I said the manga, and databook both have errors in it. So therefore since you want to discredit everything in the manga and databook, there is no point in discussing this in the first place. Thats how far you want to go to discredit the yata mirror when there is no evidence supporting the claim it its abilities are false.

Databooks are supplementary, FACTUAL info unless you can clearly see an error or continuity issue. They are from the writer, and everything in the databook entry on the yata mirror fully supports what the manga said on it, so that argument is bs. It isnt outdated unless there was an update of information that changed the features of the yata mirror.