Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-9782468-20160223232833/@comment-27660682-20160226040400

Slaphappyjoy wrote: MlGshinobi - I was hoping you'd bring up my reference to B under G:S. There are SO MANY differences between these two instances, it's almost laughable to compare.

- In B's instance, the audience can't see characters move through ANY AMOUNT OF DISTANCE AT ALL--neither while in the illusion nor while in reality. Please don't make me again explain how much of this is an illusion. This is only four freaking frames, with no movement through real space where it would take any considerable amount of time more than an instant--all of these could be at the exact same time.

- In the Uchiha instance:

---The illusion shows Sasuke being pinned to a wall, Itachi speaking, ripping Sasuke's eye out, CS activating, Itachi putting the eye in a jar, Itachi's clone seizing Sasuke, Itachi proceeding to rip out the other eye while speaking again.

---All of that happened, when in reality, they hadn't moved from their positions after the shuriken match.

- You're saying that all of those actions (in illusion time) didn't take more time than the amount of real time? Especially when Zetsu explictly notices Tsukuyomi begin, then comments on how unexpectedly quick it was.

- It's quite perfect you brought that up so I could explain the difference between four frames (only three of which are an illusion) and AN ENTIRE CHAPTER'S WORTH OF FRAMES (most of which is an illusion), where there's only any real evidence of extended false time in the latter. Im not sure why u act like I dont know all of this.

Im still waiting for the explanation for why the time wasnt specified in the tsyukyomi he used versus hebi sasuke, because in case you haven't realized, the time dilation is a genjustu aspect unique to tsyukyomi. In part one, it was specified to be 72 hours and 24 hours respectively. Zetsu rescting when hedid isnt evidence because genjustu can make the victim experience real pain. Sasuke experience d the false experience of getting his eyes ripped out just like naruto in euphmeral experience d bleeding when in reality he was standing still drooling. So its clear damage done in the genjustu reflect real life, so zetsu likely noticed the real sasuke feling pain. Thats not evidence the genjustu had dilation, in fact thats evidence the genjutsu was in real time because zetsu reacted to sasukes pain twice. In addition, zetsu said that the natch was over pretty quickly because of the time the entire battle took, not because tsyukyomi downed him quickly.

My reference for tsyukyomi being instant Is chapter 142 pages 17-18, assuming time dilation on a massive scale is applied