Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-24824859-20160715020852

@8Gates Is immaturity a basic trait among you children? Like seriously, you should get banned. Wasn't talking about the Indra's arrow & Dual Rasenshuriken explosion in the 1st place, so this point is moot. That was stronger than Hashirama & Madara's clash based on the size of the explosion, not because it can be felt from the area where the Shinju was.

Who cares if the explosion happened in the air? I'm comparing the explosion of Hashirama & Madara's clash to the explosion produced by Bijudama+Chidori and the former ends up being larger by far. The damage to the landscape is irrelevant here. I retract my statement, then Size of the explosion doesn't always determine the power, only the damage to the environment does. And since the TBB + Chidori explosion happened in the air, damage was greatly diminished. Sasuke pierces a clone, which grabs his arm and prevents him from moving. The other 3 clones that Hashirama creates out of his back attack or restrain Sasuke further while the original Hashirama moves into a more favorable position.

At no point does Sasuke even get the chance to use a Chidori spear and even if it does manage to use it and somehow pierces Hashirama, the damage gets healed while Sasuke is dealing with 4 Mokuton clones whom have already restrained him. Hashirama won't have time to prevent himself from getting bisected. Also if Hashirama manages to trap him in the way you described, what's stopping Sasuke from using: Nothing what's so ever. Any of these jutsus will either get Hashirama restrained, severely injured, or straight up killed Amenotejikara w/ distraction>Amenotejikara without distraction. Can you comprehend this much? Naruto managed to turn around and put up a guard against the former.
 * Chidori Nagashi
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Never in any of my posts did I say that any of the Kages would be able to react to the same extent that Naruto did to Amenotejikara supported by a diversion. All of their counters only require mental activation, not physical movement.

The jutsu loses even more effectiveness if Sasuke just randomly teleports with no diversion. The jutsu flopped against Kinshiki whom didn't even have knowledge of it considering that he only managed to cut off a horn.

Amenotejikara is simply a means to close distance. Sasuke isn't anywhere near as physically fast as 8th Gate Gai.

Minato mentally reacted to 8th Gate Gai's 5th step, so he easily teleports away from Sasuke's comparatively slow movement speed. Naruto wasn't able to completely put up a guard. Can you not comprehend this much? The result will be the same regardless if there's diversion or no diversion What are you talking about? All of the Hokages, except for Tobirama and Minato, need to "physically react" in order to even hope to counter Sasuke's Ameno + Chidori combo. Ameno doesn't lose any effectiveness if there's no diversion. Momoshiki is on a whole different league than the Hokages, so I don't even know why you're mentioning him. Sasuke was able to catch up to a fleeing TTJ-Madara and was even complimented for his speed by him. So I'm pretty sure he's at least up to par with 8 Gates Guy Amenojikara + Sasuke's speed >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Gates Guy. Naruto's sensing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minato's sensing. Minato isn't reacting to Sasuke's Ameno + Chidori combo Shin caught him, so this is baseless wank. Except that Sasuke clearly wasn't fighting seriously. Like really, do you blatantly ignore context to support your claim? Naruto couldn't blitz Kid Shin despite stating that he had every intent to capture him.

So he isn't blitzing any Kage here under normal circumstances, especially considering that he's slower than 8th Gate Gai whom Minato already reacted to.

Mokuton Hobi=Mokujin=Perfect Susano'o. The Mokujin is Perfect Susano'o physical equal and Hobi is the head of the Mokujin turned into a shelter.

Explosion from Hashirama & Madara's VOTE clash>>>>>>>>>>Bijudama Rasenshuriken. Perfect Susano'o protected it's user from the former.

Bijudama+Chidori>>Bijudama Rasenshuriken. Perfect Susano'o only had half of it's body destroyed by the former. Naruto didn't even move, during their confrontation, so how could you say he couldn't blitz Shin? Stop ignoring context He easily blitzes the Hokages. Prove that Guy is faster than Naruto. Not to mention Lee was able to get a kunai between Guy and Madara. Are you saying that Lee can react to 8 Gates Guy? Madara's Chibaku Tensei >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wood Human. Heck, some of Shinsusenju's fist were destroyed by Madara's Evil Disturbance Waltz. Wood Release isn't strong against jutsus of cutting nature. Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken destroys Shinsusenju in about 4 blows