Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26107879-20181004003653/@comment-26636534-20181103182744

CombatIQmatters wrote: @Ninja of War

We literally see that 8 gates and 7 gates guy blitzed juubidara,in guess what, a STRAIGHT LINE. Gaara clearly stated that Guy's movements were inhuman. so this argument has been debunked. Traveling in a straight line at a high speed isn't the issue, it's doing those two things with a speed boost that your reflexes can't handle.

And the sasuke point is debunked because that is the only time we ever see that happening, and its obvious because gaara had a sturdy defense. Kakashi never ran far away from mahiru or zabuza to build up speed for penetrative power, the raiton chakra was enough to cut those foes. Still doesn't change the fact that those two quotes directly show there is a speed boost, because it causes tunnel vision. You also didn't address any of my other critical points, it doesn't matter if rasengan is a grinding attack, more momentum = more force. It's basic physics. try throwing a baseball at 5 miles per hour versus one and 40 miles per hour and see which one hits harder.

There isn't any prize, nor am I trying to win one. But other users make it seem like winning over moderators suddenly changes my argument. Look, I'm really done with points that hinge on tangents and exaggerations. 8th gate Guy had attacks that weren't in a straight line. So enough said there. Sasuke point is debunked because it only happened one time??? What??? Idk man, you call that a counter? Of course the amount of penetrative power you need depends on what you are trying to pierce.

Great sand defense needs more penetrative power over a body.

Also, since you are continuing this line of rebuttal, slinging "debunked" after you make a point, it made me lose interest in trying to converse with you. So, I'll address your "critical points" in short.

1) I don't know what point you are trying to make, as I never said anything like that.

2) Addressed already, rasengan does not rely on penetrative power.

3) Because the eight gates boosts speed? Because Lee and Guy's attacks are not penetrative ones?