Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160331052018/@comment-27823212-20160401223354

SuperSaiyaMan wrote: Their powers had nothing to do with the seals, which each contained half of Hagoromo's chakra. Their power had everything to do with Hagoromo's chakra. They only gained the RInnegan and Six Paths Sage Mode after meeting Hagoromo. If they lost Hagoromo's power, they'd have lost those. It's already stated that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's senjutsu due to the Biju and Sasuke's Rinnegan was directly received from Hagoromo. The Rinnegan produces it's own chakra. It's impossible for it to simply "disappear". 1. This was never stated in the manga nor databook. 2. Sasuke only awoke the Rinnegan after meeting Hagoromo. It'd revert back to the EMS if he lost Hagoromo's power.

Sasuke's PS doesn't even have power above the 2nd form Ten Tails' cone Bijudama featwise. Doesn't have the feats?

His PS slashes were making mere mountain level impact at VOTE and PS chidori combined with Bijudama only made an explosion that covered VOTE's lake. It more than 'covered it'. It dwarfed it. And Sasuke was already slicing up Chibaku Tensei that were hundreds of kilometers wide which dwarfed entire mountain ranges. Even the feat you cited dwarfed all surrounding mountain ranges. His PS is literally trash compared to the Ten Tails' when it comes to destructive power and this would go quicker if you stopped lying about these "godly feats". I'm not lying. You're downplaying. Sasuke and his PS would be vaporized without a trace if he attempted to go solo against the Ten Tails. Except feats say otherwise. The only reason that the Sword of Nunoboko failed is because Obito's will wavered during the clash, weakening the blade. Its the only feat of the blade we have and its the only one we use. Enough of this idiocy. Saying that a mountain level construct is above the Ten Tails is "ignoring the feats and making stuff up" at it's finest. Calling people who disagree with you idiots hurts your argument. Sasuke's Complete Body - Susanoo is far above mountain level from both feats, portrayal and powerscaling. Post-Hagoromo power up, either Naruto or Sasuke could solo the Ten-Tails given they were soloing Madara. Hagoromo specifically only touched Sasuke's left eye with his power hence his right eye still being a Sharingan.
 * Sees it slash apart Madara's Chibaku Tensei which are hundreds of kilometers wide and dwarf entire mountain ranges.

Naruto awakened Hagoromo's senjutsu after Hagoromo made him the meeting point for the Biju. Shikamaru already blatantly states that Naruto possesses Hagoromo's power due to the Biju, just like Obito and Madara.

The manga blatantly shows this and the databook says nothing about Naruto and Sasuke's powers coming from some random chakra handout.

What do you not understand about the Rinnegan producing it's own chakra? It's self-sustaining.

Considering that the combined explosion didn't touch the statues at all, the explosion only covered it. That isn't even Sasuke's own feat regardless.

Those meteors were only as wide as the Shinju and the trunk isn't even wider than the Six Red Yang formation. Don't even try to claim that it forced the barrier to expand. Those were the outstretching roots, not the trunk.

As you conveniently ignored before, Sasuke's PS slashes at VOTE were shown to be only mountain level and it took him literally dozens of slashes to chop up one meteor, so I don't know where this "feats & portrayal" argument is coming from.

Sasuke's PS was half destroyed by an explosion the size of VOTE's lake, so the Ten Tails would vaporize it easily, along with Sasuke.

Featwise, a fully-powered Nunoboko shaped the world and can reversibly destroy it. Sasuke's PS can destroy a mountain, and a mountain range sized rock if he hacks at it about a dozen times. See the difference here or are we going to keep playing dumb?

Not even going to bother with the nonsense about Naruto and Sasuke soloing Madara.