Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28203534-20160509153448/@comment-28247797-20160516163303

@QuakingStar Of course Hashirama is stronger than Madara, I'm just saying he isn't if he isn't using SM and is alone. Due to the simple fact that he has nothing to beat PS or put it down, Wood dragons and Wood Golem were proven to be highly unefficient in which are Hashirama's base techniques. Hashirama with SM is certainly above EMS Madara. Just not in base.

@Rachin123 I believe Kurama is the strongest, if each tailed beast achieved a perfect link with their jinchuuriki then I'm under the impression Kurama would be the strongest because he has the most chakra out of all the beasts so he has the most damage potential. He was also feared all throughout part 1, sure each tailed beast was feared to some extent but Kurama was the scariest. Not only that, but if he wasn't then I doubt Madara would've subdued Kurama and used him against Hashi. He just would've gotten another tailed beast. One that was stronger.

Anyways, this thread is pretty done from what I can see. Clearly Hashirama stomps Jiraiya in everyway.