Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26567684-20150819061606/@comment-24949460-20150820012959

Lilyxflower wrote: GoldLiger wrote: But the facts stack up in favor of her being Karin's daughter(through science):

1. No birth certificate

2. No marriage photos

3. Creating life with only using DNA

4. Glasses

5. Secret of her birth

6. Karin knowing EXACTLY when Sarada would need new glasses without so much as checking her

7. No flashback that shows a pregnant Sakura

8. No physical connection between them(no green eyes or pink hair or large forehead)

9. Nature vs Nurture thing

10. Naruto's important flashback about how even when one is not blood related they can still be considered family.

All this and more proves that something happened to change Kishimoto's mind. From what I understand:

1) There was no birth certificate for Sarada because she was born outside of the village. But she said she looked for documents of her being born at the Konoha hospital and found out she wasn't born there, so she may have a birth certificate that her parents got after they returned to the village.

2) I don't know why Kishimoto never presented any photos of Sasuke and Sakura's wedding or their marital life before he left the village for his mission.

3) Creating life with just DNA is something orochimaru does for his benefit; it has nothing to do with Sarada.

4) Sarada didn't start wearing glasses until she was around 5 and that due to an illness she had that affected her eyesight.

5) Due to Sasuke's past and his reputation as a powerful shinobi, I can see why he was secretive about his daughter's birth and existence. He always knew that any enemy would use her against him if they found out about her.

6) Remember, Karin was the one who gave Sarada her glasses (likely gave them to Sasuke or Sakura before he/she gave them to Sarada) once she got sick and started wearing glasses. Its possible that this implies that Sasuke somehow kept in contact with Sakura, who told him about this, he told Karin when they meet somehow, and Karin offered him the glasses (just an assumption).

7) Kishimoto admitted that he did create a flashback scene in chapter 10 of Gaiden that showed Karin remembering the day Sasuke and Sakura showed up at her hideout and helped Sakura give birth to Sarada. That part was deleted before he released the chapter. Why Kishimoto did this is beyond me -_-

8) It was Kishimoto's choice to make Sarada look more like Sasuke than Sarada, but Sarada does have some facial features from Sakura.

9) Sarada is Sasuke and Sakura's biological daughter, but her spending several years from her father made her wonder if he cared about her and her mother and she also wondered if her mother was lying about their marriage to cover up secrets of her birth. But before and after learning her suspicions were false, Sarada admits that she always felt loved by her parents and she loved them in return, despite everything.

10) That was a good lesson to Sarada about the meaning of family being more about love than blood, because even though she was biologically related to Sasuke, she had trouble understanding how he could love and yet be separated from her for so long, and she was struggling to accept the possibility that Sakura was not her mother despite the obvious love between them.

1)You do know that when a parent gives birth outside the hospital they actually GO to a hospital to check on the baby correct and that is where the birth certificate is filled out.

2)Because the original intent was probably a true Nature vs Nurture thing but was changed thanks to editors.

3)You forget that Karin works for Orochimaru right? Her obsession with Sasuke would have allowed her to create life using Orochimaru's method of clones with the exception of her using Sasuke DNA(that she obtained somehow that a previous manga chapter stated that she did something to Sasuke) and her own.

4)And do you know when Karin started wearing her glasses? The earliest we see Karin is at age 12 during the Part one Chunin exams. So your point is moot.

5)Again the point is moot when Sakura and Sarada live in the Uchiha house and uses the UCHIHA SYMBOL on their backs. So another point is moot.

6)But the thing is why does Karin know about the type of glasses Sarada should wear? Or why doesn't Sarada recognize her if she went to her to check her eyes out? And finally why did Sakura go to Karin when Konoha as eye doctors too or why doesn't Sakura herself(a certified medic ninja) doesn't check her herself or go to an eye doctor in Konoha? So another point is moot.

7)Where did he state that? If that flashback would have help proved that Sakura was Sarada's biological mother then why take it out. Heck he only needed to add one panel(a panel showing Karin with a pregnant Sakura). The fact that he didn't add that scene there is proof that he didn't want to give up the Nature vs Nurture theme.

8)You make this so easy. Karin also has similar face shape to Sakura as well. So this point is moot due to Karin and Sakura sharing similar face shape.

9)The thing is that Sasuke's mission has no affect on whether Sarada knew she was born outside the village or not. Sasuke explores DIMENSIONS(Kaguya's dimensions at that), so no one would be able to find him out. That is why Sakura keeping a secret that she was born outside the village didn't make a bit of sense.

10)The lesson isn't about Sarada learning about Sasuke love. It was about accepting Sakura as her mother no matter who her biological DNA test states. That is the reason we see Naruto there to help her with that. He understands the family bond between two people not related by blood.

So in conclusion all your point are moot because at the end of the day, Karin kept something that should be given to the BIOLOGICAL mother of the child and her knowing about Sarada's eye condition so well to the point that she sends Suigetsu with a pair of glasses for her to wear due to her age. The only definitive reason why Karin knows such things without even seeing Sarada's eye condition herself is that she is using HERSELF as an example of what eye wear Sarada should be using and at what age. Clones are near perfect copies of the original. With Sarada is that she is a clone of both Sasuke and Karin. That is why she needs glasses because Karin needed glasses.

And don't tell me this isn't the case because look at ALL the Konoha children born with known parents:

Boruto = Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes, 2 whiskers and his mothers eye and face shape Himawari = Dark blue Hair, Blue Eyes(when not using Byakugan), 2 whiskers and her fathers eye and face shape Shikadai = Hair color and in the same style as his father, eye color, eye and face shape of Temari Inojin = Ino's eye, hair colors and Sai's skin tone Chocho = Choji's hair color and body type with Karui's eye and skin color

All these kids have the perfect balance between their parents but Sarada doesn't. The only thing we know of Sarada's physical look is: Black Eyes Black Hair Looks like a female Sasuke Has Eye Glasses

Nothing from Sakura. Do you truly believe that Kishimoto doesn't know how to create kids based off their parents. This is why it is impossible for Sarada to be Sakura's biological daughter because she doesn't have ANY physical traits shared with her. The only similarities are those shown in children being raised by adopted parents from very young(baby).

Monster Strength is not a bloodline Shannaro isn't a bloodline trait because Boruto would have been saying dattebayo like his father too. Yet Kushin says dattebane, Naruto dattebayo and Boruto dattebasa. Clothes don't count since that is outside DNA

So unless Kishimoto releases a chapter that shows(visually) that Sakura was pregnant during her time in the hideout with Karin then Sarada's real mother is still up in the air.