Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43464541-20190811073158/@comment-9782468-20190819141615

@Flatzone, where do you get this idea that Naruto and Sasuke only borrowed Hagoromo's power? They both still have their powers from him.

Obito wasn't really able to fight, he just gave his powers to Kakashi.

Kakashi and Sakura helped land a decisive victory, but Naruto and Sasuke were far from on their last ropes and we don't know if they could have made it to sealing her without them. After all, they still had enough energy and power to fight each other at the end.

Adult Sasuke can now open portals to Kaguya's dimension, which as shown with Obito and Sakura takes massive amounts of chakra (Obito had Hashi cells, Sakura was using her seal with 3 years worth of chakra in it). He couldn't when they fought Kaguya first. That's an indication he's stronger than before.

It's not explicitly stated or shown that they're stronger, but not that they're weaker either. So I can see either way being true. Glad you agree on them being more skilled and having more techs though.

@RandomAir BGM Naruto and Sasuke were already contending with a Ten Tails Jinjuuriki before they got anything from Hagoromo. They had help, but there were parts of that fight where it was just them against Juubito. with Naruto's power, the Konoha 9 broke through Juubito's shield, and with just his and Sasuke's power, they broke the Sword of Nunuboko.

So when they get their power up from Hagoromo, they were already closing in on being able to take on a Ten Tails Jinjuuriki together.

After their power up, they basically forced Madara to run and get his other Rinnegan, and even then he could barely slow them down while he activated Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Also, the fact that Naruto still uses Six Paths Sage Mode basically means he still has Six Paths chakra, so this idea that they lost Hagoromo's chakra seems less plausible to me.

Naruto and Sasuke did in fact seal Kaguya. Kakashi disbaled one arm and one portal. Naruto's deception, Sasuke's teleportation, and Sakura's cover handled the rest.