Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-24886865-20171122234112/@comment-24886865-20171215050915

AsianReaper wrote: Nerosmoke wrote: Naruto's clones are weak and die in single hits from chuin like omoi who can destory his clones with a single hit. when Kisame's clones can make other clones and tank hits from might guy.

Boruto was able to dogde Momoskiki attacks. I don;t see why anyone else can't. Sasuke was saved by Chojuro.

The Other Swordsmen defeated a 8th gate of Death user and Kakashi took a hole army to defeat them with. Zabuza has been shown to be stronger and faster then Kakashi. Raiga one shoted a post VOTE Sasuke Fight Naruto and Ameyuri should be better then him Chojuro Hammard Sasuke into a wall faster then he could do anything about that and has even been called strong by Naruto himself. The Other Swordsmen have weapons claimed to stop anything brake anything and expolde anything. As shown from the last fight between Naruto and Sasuke, Naruto's clones do not disperse after a hit anymore. In fact, one took a Chidori to the chest and held Sasuke in place.

Boruto dodged Momoshiki's attacks? I'm gonna be honest, I don't recall exactly. When was that? I really don't remember.

Okay, but that 8th Gate user was a guy who couldn't pass the Chunin exams his entire life. The 8 gates only multiply the abilities you already have. Just like how 5th Gates Lee would probably lose to like 2 or 3 Gates Guy at the time of Lee's fight against Gaara. 8 Gates Dai isn't comparable to 8 Gates Guy.

Raiga. An anime only character. Beat Naruto when he didn't even use one tail. Wow, what a feat.

Chojuro hammered Sasuke into a wall. That's impressive. Even though Sasuke was currently in a building of people trying to take him down, and each opponent was Jonin to Kage level. So... yeah.

"The Other Swordsmen have weapons claimed to stop anything brake anything and expolde anything." Really? Gaara's absolute defense, able to protect him from everything; Lee got past it. Gaara's sand dome, claimed to be his true ultimate defense; Sasuke Chidoried straight through it. Chidori, the technique famed to cut through anything from its first description; couldn't fully cut through 4th Raikage's armour. Susanoo, famed to be an ultimate defense; broken by Tsunade, Kaguya, Naruto... Even Sasuke broke through Itachi's. Point is, the weapons are not all powerful just because they can "cut or explode anything."

"If anyone thinks Kakashi can beat Zabuza alone you need to see this." That was a strategy to minimize risk based on the abilities of the people around him. Do you remember what happened in their second fight in part 1 on the bridge? As soon as Kakashi got serious. The very second he got serious. He pinned Zabuza down and would have ended him had it not been for Haku. And when Haku died, Kakashi tossed Zabuza around like some amateur.

Naruto clones die in a single hit, Water clones have been stated to be better in every way in both the anime and data book. Omoi was able to take out a Naruto clone with his sword they are nothing specal outside of numbers or the one clone he can use to hold senjutsu at a time.

Boruto movie

Might Dui was un-willing to show anyone this secret ninjutsu showing it only to Lee before he died. I fail to see anything that support the 8th gates being a DBZ power multiplyer. that seems like some fan logic to me. When it should be noted the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist was well known across all of the ninja villages that even genin was aware about them. when Dai faced them they had no Idea who he was or what the 8th gates are and would not have cared about the color coming from someone when Dai from the start was aware of the Swordsmen and went right to the final gate to fight them meaning the 7th gate is not enough, Kisame alone with out a Sword forced Guy to the 7th gate and the other swordsmen are to strong for him to fight them with out the 5th gate.

I don't see how Raiga who is a anime only ninja like you said from chapter #668 (of the anime only) one shoted someone with out a tail. the only thing is Naruto durablity is the same as then.

The thing that matter about Chojuro hammoring sasuke is that it nocked him back so hard and though the wall meaning it would also one shot Naruto. not to mention the chakra blades the sword can shoot out.

Gaara was beat by someone who put bombs into his sand. Jinpachi is no differant as he can freely control the bombs in the shibuki and the blast sword has also been claimed to shape the earth meaning it will be able to cut through his sand as well as the rock at the mist memorial.

The Chidori has been compared tot he Lighting fangs in the 5 kage vs the 7 Swordsmen thread that predated this one. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:248749 only Kiba was said to have the highest cutting power. Sasuke got past it Kiba should do the same only better.

The Nuibari is able to sew and price all thing together with the stichting spider crucifying countless ninjas with this Sword ninjutsu wire crucifxion http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Longsword_Ninja_Art:_Wire_Crucifixion so it is a bit hard to move if you are crucified.

The Kabutowari is the most underated one. being able to brake any defense with the named jutsu. Bluntsword Ninja art: Breakthrough, Head cutter, Stone pieces and fissure. along with the ablity to throw the hammor and have it return to the user seen by kyoho. The fact this blade can brake both the earth and steel it would more then likey brake lighting armor or the susano rib cage.

In short the Weapons are OP as shit.

I like how you bring up the second fight while igoring the 1st where kakashi lost hard and even said he would have died with out the help of Naruto