User talk:WindStar7125

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Blocking Requests

 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:162878#128 Hiyayaka-kun makes an inappropriate argument and refers to people who would disagree as using fanfics, insulting the opposition.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:27, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * First, I only block users when they commit a repeated amount of offenses in the forums without heeding to user requests or warnings on their talkpages, or take part in indisputable vandalism or spamming there. Hiyayaka-kun committed neither one of those acts, therefore, a block will not be performed.
 * Second, he may have a blunt way of saying things, but he nevertheless stated his opinion, and his comment was not bad enough to the point where it could be considered a blockable offense, or even earn a warning for flaming other users. His opinion may vehemently disagree with yours, but I see no reason for a block to be performed.  08:03, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * I share Windstar's sentiments. Blocks are only performed for repeated policy violations, not just when you don't agree with another person's opinion. At most, Hiyayaka-kun could be given a warning, but this does not warrant a block. --Sajuuk talk 11:12, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

Closing Requests

 * The Itachi vs Hashirama thread is going nowhere, and it is obvious it was an attempted spite thread by Saiyaman.. to avoid users getting heated I request it be closed. QuakingStar (talk) 01:51, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll think about that later. However, my advice to you is that you stop replying to the thread. Scroll up to the first comment and click "Following" to unfollow the thread. You and SuperSaiyanMan are very, very bad with each other. 02:03, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. QuakingStar (talk) 02:06, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * And again, please use asterisks on the requests page. 02:08, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:167183#121 also requesting it to be closed. Its gone its course.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:06, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ 10:05, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

Highlight Requests

 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:177965 - I feel as if the vote is too close to be considered a definite pass/fail at the moment. It's been the same people posting over and over again, and I think the article should be re-highlighted to encourage more people to share their opinion/support/opposition. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 09:42, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Though, I need to say this: The wiki does not operate on a vote by consensus method. Things are achieved through discussion. The support can outweigh the opposition, but if the opposition offers more from their point of view, and people who support the proposal say the same thing without more variety in terms of reasoning, then things may not happen.  14:04, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:179543 - User-wide opinion/consensus. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 02:55, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ 02:56, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:180823 - I might as well rent this space out, since I'm the only one who uses it. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 00:09, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * (Phone died before I could confirm the highlight... -__-) ✅ 03:20, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Chat Ban Requests

 * Please block this guy called PTE2 he is trolling in the chat.
 * The PTE2 guy is a troll that follows me around. he's not vandalizing anything and he is very rude but he uses TOR so i see blocking him as doing nothing. He has many accounts. If it would help i could stop using chat so he'd stop coming. He been being dealt with by wiki staff for years now but there isn't really anything they can do. Munchvtec (talk) 12:16, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ No need, I've banned him from the chat for a week. Hope it helps.  14:57, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Miscellaneous Requests

 * Itachiwasahero is being rude, providing no proof, etc. during the debate topic of Itachi vs Minato. Even when asked, he acts angry and indignant while insulting me.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:52, April 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Now he's telling me to 'go suck Minato's dick on another wikia'.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 02:53, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Dealt with him. 03:48, April 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * SuperSaiyaMan is being rude, demeaning and insulting and he made it clear he dislikes Itachi, hence his arguments seem to be spite more than anything in the Itachi vs Minato thread. btw this is my quote on the right at the end, it appears when I post from here on out if you are wondering > You'll regret that injustice. 23:40, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Regret what injustice? 00:17, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's just a quote, no special meaning. Did you see in that vs thread the last 4 or 5 posts? I know you closed it but they are bashing me and I do not appreciate it at all. I thought they should get warnings since I so easily did, and the ones who already had warnings should get blocked like what was done to me. You'll regret that injustice. 00:30, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * A block is warranted after several offenses, not just one or two. They'll get their warnings. However, they will not be blocked. You, on the other hand, have been told for years to stop insulting users, and also earning 3 forum warnings on your talkpage in the process, and still did not relent, hence you getting blocked. And also, please don't threaten users by saying you'll report them to get blocked. That doesn't end well. 00:43, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I suggest the debate threads be removed from the wikia. They cause problems simply put. You'll regret that injustice. 00:57, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll speak with SuperSajuuk on that matter. And sign your posts. Make sure the signature has at least a link to your talkpage. Won't tell you again. Otherwise, you'll just get hit with a warning about you violating the signature policy. 01:02, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no reason to remove the versus debates board. Some users enjoy the section. Considering that your report was made not long after you were unblocked, I would hazard a guess at pointing out that this is probably your way of trying to "get back at SSM" for him reporting you. Your block was valid and you can complain all your want, but I read your talkpage and noticed how many times you've been given a reprieve for your behaviour to others.
 * Unless more users complain about the nature of a forum board, the board will not be removed or closed, it is doing no harm to any user of the wiki. If you dislike what is posted in there, my suggestion to you would be to simply stop posting in that section and contribute somewhere else in the forums or the wiki. --Sajuuk talk 14:14, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:167183#38 He is again being very rude to me. QuakingStar (talk) 19:56, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * We are both looking into this issue and discussing possible solutions to it. In the mean time, please don't reply to him further or instigate any further reactions. --Sajuuk talk 20:00, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. QuakingStar (talk) 20:02, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:167183 Tried offering the olive branch, still being insulted and degraded over my character preference, saying it doesn't matter because of that.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:18, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Please use asterisks on a requests page. 2) I do admit that "hate" is a strong word. 3) He is not insulting you. In fact, he's making an effort not to blatantly insult you. Again, he may disagree with your opinion, but that's no reason to start coming to me expecting me to discipline him. I do admit he might have to tone it down with the word "hate," though. 01:42, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * He's telling people not to bother with me because of my preferences, basically saying they are worthless. Its not a disagreement of opinion on when I put this down. It is due to the attitude he addressed me. You're quite misunderstanding my complaint here if you think it was something as petty as a disagreement of opinion. Telling people to ignore what I say based on my character preferences IS a insult since it alludes that I'm either an idiot or something else. Taking effort not to insult me, what he said is an insult. When you tell others to disregard someone else's opinion in a debate, that is a insult.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:58, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've asked him to stop replying to the thread. And I suggest you learn to ignore him if he does. And it is indeed petty. 02:04, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you move this out of the archives, thanks. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 01:37, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Snapper moved it. 03:01, August 5, 2015 (UTC)
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Can you unlock Sarada's infobox?
Its been confirmed she's Sakura's biological daughter, so we need to change it.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 05:38, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I must have missed the tag saying Windy was a sysop... --Sajuuk 09:52, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

ಠ_ಠ
ಠ_ಠ --Sajuuk 11:06, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * ಠ_ಠ. To be quite frank, I'm getting to the point where nobody really give a fuck about anything I do now. If I left now, I doubt anyone here would give a shit. And I'm getting very close to leaving for good. Really need some convincing that I should stay here. --Sajuuk 20:05, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem is that I don't want to make this decision. I need to be convinced by "senior" editors that I should stay here, since anything I do now gets me flak for no reason. It's like people are trying to hand me a reason to leave on a stick. So I need you, the only forum operator, to convince me that I'm actually wanted here. --Sajuuk 20:09, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's understandable I got mad, but I had good reason. I know you've been away for a while, but I mean, look at the forums. With just a couple of forum moderators and no sysops intervening with them, we have had users being condescending to others (I asked Saru to look into it, but he only posted a basic verbal warning in the thread, which the user in question chastised) and users constantly spamming their youtube channel in threads without any kind of block (despite this being posted to the sysops page, the sysops do not care). If that's not a sign of where this wiki is going, I don't know what is.
 * The sysops, frankly, have zero interest in the forums. They don't want to moderate it and they never will. In the whole week since I was forced to resign as a forum operator, I've watched the forums become steadily useless and showcasing the many signs of a lack of care: while I commend Saru and Jizo for at least "trying" to do something, their efforts are only going to be in vain.
 * Please don't take this badly, but I have watched Foxie's wiki and seen enough to say that you are probably better off just spending all your time there and ignoring this place. In the time you haven't been on this wiki, supposedly on a "break", I've still seen you editing like mad on Foxie's wiki. If you were really on a break, you'd be more inclined to take the break from all wiki's, not just a single one.
 * In essence, the sysops only cared about moderating the forums simply to remove me from the position they never wanted me to have in the first place. It is so blatantly obvious if you look through everything that has happened since 1st November 2014 to present.
 * Since I was also removed as a chat moderator, there has been no presence of any chat moderators (in the form of sysops), meaning that the chat now goes regularly unmoderated. While Dantman is there, he barely says anything and hardly replies to any requests to talk, so why he's there really mystifies me. That is also a sign that the chat is just going to get spammed and nobody is going to bat a god damn eye to it.
 * If I'm going to be continually treated like a nuisance, then I'll leave. I don't care if I have a lot of knowledge, because I can use that knowledge to improve other wiki's that accept my help and don't have to deal with sysops who have no clue what they're doing.
 * If my behaviour is a problem, then use this same logic against everyone else. Oh wait, everyone else is freely allowed to do it, even Foxie. It's nothing more than a witchhunt, that much has been clear to me for a while.
 * I've never been wanted here and the "higher ups" have been pushing as much as possible to get me removed. You should go look at NinjaSheik's posts in that thread about me: it's clear that her suggestion of having me permabanned (which isn't ever going to happen because it's only used for persistent vandals and obvious trolls) is a suggestion that some sysops seem to agree with. If that's not bias, then I don't know what bias is.
 * Re Elveonora: he's barely here and does almost nothing now. That's been happening for months now (probably not long after I was made a forum op, say a month or so) and isn't a problem. --Sajuuk 20:58, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because I haven't yet seen "anything" on "this wiki" that shows he's changed at all. If he has, great, show me such evidence. But that still doesn't excuse the fact that he does almost nothing as a sysop on here and has publically attacked me when I've done nothing to do him (because he hasn't been here for months): is that how you want the sysops here to behave? I have spoken to other sysops who aren't so tied up in stupid politics, they agree that such behaviour is inexcusable.
 * I do show remorse for what's happened, that's why I resigned and bowed out by myself, instead of waiting for my rights to be forcibly removed from me, especially as the thread was not even remotely about me losing user rights: hell, half the people in there didn't think I should lose them, it was just a few users who hate me and dislike the fact I got user rights at all who turned it that way.
 * Just because I don't show remorse in public doesn't mean I don't show it at all. I'm fairly sure I apologised to you when I said things I shouldn't have.
 * Also, it's never my fault, it has been clear for months that I have done nothing but improve this place, keeping the forums in check as much as I can, yet I'm constantly made out to look like a bad editor. At. Every. Single. Fucking. Opportunity. I just do what I have to do to ensure things are done. Yet I'm the guilty and terrible one. You've said it yourself: other people need to be punished for the same reason. Guess what? THEY'VE NOT BEEN PUNISHED YET.
 * Guess why? Because they're allowed to do whatever they want here. Dantman absolutely refuses to see that some of his sysops use underhanded tactics to push the blame on everyone else, to hide the fact that they have abused their rights. The threads that Snapper2 and TU3 made about themselves aren't generating any replies: guess why? Because nobody is going to post in a thread about a user that said user has created themselves. If I made a thread where I asked users to evaluate me, do you honestly think people are going to post in it with negative messages? Absolutely not.
 * If the sysops want to be evaluated like this, then they certainly should NOT be posting the threads: in fact, it is something that a completely independent 3rd party should be posting, otherwise users will not open up about things they feel are abuses. As it stands, the threads are mostly dead with nobody actually caring to complain. There's a reason why nobody is opening up to point out the faults of the sysops: because the evaluators made their own threads, something you are not supposed to do. It is only going to curate positive messages, nothing negative will be posted and they will try desperately to debunk negative comments to make the other party look stupid.
 * I refuse to change how I act. If others can get away with it without punishment, especially those who are seen as community leaders, then it must be that everyone else can do it... oh wait, the non-community leaders get punished and scapegoated, whereas the CL's get free passes. --Sajuuk 21:59, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh also: I have called repeatedly for sysops to block Paladin78. Has he been blocked by a sysop yet? Nope. They are refusing to look at the fact he's made several junk pages, has ignored his talkpage for 5 years and has a history of blocks/ban evasion. His sock only got blocked because I took the initiative that the sysops would not take: otherwise, we would still be here complaining about him ban evading. --Sajuuk 22:08, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

re: Last Names
Meh, if that's what was decided. It is in no way the proper approach, since her name isn't Sakura Haruno any longer, but I defer to the majority in that case. Thanks for the heads up. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 18:48, July 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, I know. I just come from a fictional background which includes Harry Potter and Star Wars, whose wikis reflect the name changes regardless of how long the characters were known by the name they were introduced under. After all, we do have redirects for this express purpose. I might bring it up on a talk page, just because it is important for the presentation of information. It's more of an OCD thing haha ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 19:03, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Hi
Hy Windy. I'm hope you're not mad at me with the situation that we were in, it was honestly not my intention at all and I feel really bad if you're mad at me regarding it because I like you a lot >.< And yeah, I've seen them, cool right?--Omojuze (talk) 20:02, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Regarding Kakashi's Susanoo -Truu.. I'll join you if it were to be the case, it's a promise >.<!! And I'm scared because his moveset is not updated O.o Hopefully, they're saving it for an anime debut first.--Omojuze (talk) 20:07, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd hope so :) But there wouldn't be much change in aesthetics, with the exception of the second Sharingan. How about Hokage Kakashi? He was revealed to be a costume change only, right?--Omojuze (talk) 20:15, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! Let's hope for it to happen! Honestly, I just think that they are saving the reveal for the anime, just like with Rikudo Madara.--Omojuze (talk) 20:25, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure she'll be a boss though. Maybe a little upgrade on the moveset or specific cinematics?--Omojuze (talk) 20:57, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Windy!! >.< >.< >.<--Omojuze (talk) 21:43, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Wondering...
Yeah. I occasionally post in the comments there but generally try to avoid them, since they're a fucking cesspool filled with morons. Just couldn't help but correct that guy's misunderstanding. FF-Suzaku (talk) 02:01, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Novels
Is it worth adding a Naruto Hiden or novel board to the forums for the time being, so users can talk about it rather than on talk pages? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:09, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just remembered that there's an upcoming novel series called Naruto Shinden later this year, so is it worth renaming the board to jsut Novel Discussions if possible? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 15:36, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Cheers Windy :D --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:44, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Kekkei Genkai
Its a problem on Wikia's end. The staff have been notified--~Ultimate Supreme  16:36, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

/Signature Color/
This is going to be a weird question, but, how did you color your signature?==User:ExyleCage ExyleCageWasHere 15:00, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

banned users
Is there a way to look up users that have been locked? Also how do I archive talk page?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 19:22, July 11, 2015 (UTC) EDIT: NVM I figured out how to archive.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 19:23, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
I've been trying to get in on chat for a while, and it won't load properly? Have you had the same issue lately?--Mina talk  22:51, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Versus Polls
That poll would be perfect for the vs debate threads. QuakingStar (talk) 05:37, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

RE: /* Thread:178382 */

 * I would of intervened but i was out for the day enjoying the beach and getting sunburned :D I smell a ban. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:52, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * ಠ_ಠ Jesus Christ. I stayed out of that thread, didn't know that shit was going on. That's just offensive. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 07:08, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * It is indeed offensive. Same, I stayed out of that thread, but damn. Caught me off guard. I gotta do better, I guess. 07:15, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Or maybe it's time to promote another mod or two. Because apparently, four isn't enough. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 07:17, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, question, what would happen if we promote another user to be a mod, and a situation like this hides under our noses once again? Just continue to promote more users? I was getting ready to sleep too... but we'll see. So far, it's just one user and not a multitude of them. Nothing we can't handle. 07:22, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

I was sleeping, my apologies.--Elve Talk Page 08:50, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just saw this in the feeds (glancing at the wiki every now and then) and I lol'd so hard at how people are not being disciplined anymore for forum misdemeanour's. I've been watching the feeds for a while now since I left and seeing almost non-existent moderative action in the forums. Looks like nobody cares whatsoever for their wellbeing anymore and are quite happy for them to become a complete mess of insults. :D
 * If many of the forum mods are too busy in real life or other wikis to manage this wiki's forums, then maybe it's a case that simply nobody cares enough now and that you need to reconsider whether removing me was the best option: looking at what's happened so far, it's clear what the answer is.
 * In fact, it only proves that, despite the claims people had about my attitude, I was effective in keeping the forums under control. But y'all decided to screw the effectiveness I had in keeping them controlled and free of problems. :D
 * PS: Don't plan on reading any replies given to this message. Just sticking my tuppence in, as someone with clear experience in managing this place. --SuperSajuuk (talk) 10:39, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * "^I'm leaving permanently" he says. "You won't see me again" he says. Lol. I wouldn't necessarily have someone who (regularly) doesn't keep his word have any form of rights/tools, but that's just me. :^) 13:52, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Why
Ok so you left me a message, I understand that completely.. but Rage who called me a fanboy, butthurt among other names and consistently insulted me.. you didn't leave him a single message.. so it's ok for him to harass and insult other users?? QuakingStar (talk) 14:49, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Will do, thanks I appreciate it. QuakingStar (talk) 00:16, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

You should watch the hiruzen vs tobirama thread, Mcpowa is dead set on slyly and sarcastically insulting people. QuakingStar (talk) 11:36, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto Geography
Hey there. I noticed there's two Land of the Sky-section in Geography-article. I tried to edit it, but it seems I can't do that. --JouXIII (talk) 00:44, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Boruto has Gentle Fist?! Air Palm?!
Forgive me my time here has strangely fallen in the past two weeks. What happened in there, the time I commented everything seemed to be going fine. Then poop is being flung it's closed down. What did I miss?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:04, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

the spelling was wrongA Wkia contributor (talk) 23:15, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

this is an insult. you woulnd't like being called wundsar7124A Wkia contributor (talk) 23:22, July 24, 2015 (UTC))

Re: Visual Editor
Aha ok. Thanks for the info. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:22, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Chatting
My body is ready. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 19:32, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I did what you suggested. Did it work? (O0o0o0ox (talk) 14:39, July 30, 2015 (UTC))

Editing
Ok, I did what you suggested. Did it work? (O0o0o0ox (talk) 14:40, July 30, 2015 (UTC))

RE: Volume 73
Guess Snapper fixed it--~Ultimate Supreme  19:31, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Sasuke
Why did you delete my thing of mentioning Sasuke poking Sakura's forehead was like Itachi poking his? (O0o0o0ox (talk) 20:07, July 30, 2015 (UTC))

re: request
I'll try. No guarantees that I'll catch everything, though. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 06:55, August 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * This is how i imagine your reaction is gonna be returning to the wiki each week. I'll try my best :D --Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:24, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Opinions
So I forgot to mention to everyone I was on vacation last week....my bad. Will be sure to look up anything I missed.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:30, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re: VisualEditor
I really hate the wikia style... everything is always broken and shit... • Seelentau 愛 議 16:41, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * More like all the time. I mean, not even the main page problem was fixed. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:44, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't add it otherwise. ;) • Seelentau 愛 議 20:04, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Huuuh? Maybe on twitter @Narutopedia_eu? ;D • Seelentau 愛 議 20:23, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeeeey. Maybe I should translate that... it says Momo and Kin are descendants of Kaguya... what :| • Seelentau 愛 議 20:48, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Soo, do we add it now or later? How did we handle it last time? • Seelentau 愛 議 21:11, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh... well, good thing I'm the only one translating them, from what I know :^) I actually could've bought Zai no Sho and it would be here tomorrow-ish, but meh, not gonna spend my money on overprized stuff. • Seelentau 愛 議 21:20, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Aaaand when do we add... you know... this? • Seelentau 愛 議 22:16, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure there's already one... anyway, I might just go ahead and add it... I guess? It's just so weird that his parents are said to be respected people... • Seelentau 愛 議 22:22, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it should be. And utaprincess has been a reliable source in the past. She actually lives in Japan. If that's not reliable, I don't know what is. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:28, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Team 7
This user may try to edit fight you. before going any further, ask Omni what he think, maybe? Justin Holland (talk) 01:48, August 8, 2015 (UTC)