Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180728104553/@comment-34656247-20180729184712

Mr. Grave wrote: 1. Not necessarily. First of all, as we saw against Kabuto, to meet the requirements for Izanami's activation, there's more to it than just one touch and voila! Itachi fought him for quite a while before activating the jutsu. So if Obito manages to grab him and activate Kamui, Itachi won't be able to activate Izanami in that instant. Didn't really mean that after one touch he gets Obito, it has to be repeated...Kamui can be countered with Crow substitution...since Obito's main attack and defense is kamui it won't be hard because as i said before he will eventually attempt to warp Itachi away.

Second of all, in the case of Rinnegan Obito, he has an array of jutsu that enable him fighting comfortably from a long range, one of them being the Gedo Mazo which can conjure phantom dragons that effectively seal chakra and move at a fast pace. His Rinnegan also enables him to use Chibaku Tensei which, if you remember, would have been Edo Itachi's doom if he didn't have help from Killer Bee's and Naruto's sizeable bijuu arsenal. We hardly know what a single rinnegan is capable of, Obito mentioned he can use certain techniques but that doesn't mean we can wank that statement and give him jutsu's a dual rinnegan user was shown to use...even so,he will do what he can to survive Edo Itachi can spam Yasaka magatama at the core, upon being summoned the Gedo Mazo will obviously be a threat to Itachi or so he will see it, amaterasu is enough.

Thirdly and the most important one of all, Izanami is a plot jutsu, and what I mean by that is that it only works when the plot demands it. Izanami would probably work against the Juubito that was second-guessing himself and we saw it work against Kabuto who was having sudden identity problems, but the Obito with the mask whose resolve was rock solid - it wouldn't work against him. It was a magic key that Kishimoto used to get out of the predicament that was Kabuto and his army of zombie soldiers. Oh really now ;_;...i still don't understand what you mean by plot jutsu...Izanami works on a person who fails to accept/acknowledge his/her true self, what is obito's true self? the Obito who got talk no jutsued, the one that became good in the end....that is Obito's true self. Izanami works.

2. Yeah, my mistake - what I meant to say was that he made himself intangible to avoid Amaterasu, which was pretty impressive considering he was only a few feet away from Sasuke. I initially thought he used Izanagi too, but apparently the databook clarified that he used Kamui. I am aware databooks are not reliable enough, but neither the anime nor the manga actually clearly explained what was going on so, yeah.. Can you please quote the part where the Dbook said he used kamui ,-,..either ways you misunderstood me lol,the jutsu clearly landed on him...n to warp it away he has to make touch it using his palm (only shown)

@TheKillMan wrote: He used Kamui, not Izanagi, against Transcript:Amaterasu. The flames hit him, so whether he became intangible or warped away the flames is irrelevant. Either way works. The flames was on him,how can he warp away it when he needs to place his palm on it (only way shown)? he most certainly didnt become intangible the flames were stuck on his clothes..when he becomes intangible his clothes goes as well so whatever is on his clothes should also go by logic.