Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-29965012-20161221160302/@comment-26537507-20170116202739

In SM jiraiya too would heal most of the damage inflicted by 4-tailed Naruto. Just like he recovered from having an arm torn off and his throat crushed. Can Oro recover from that? Why yes he can.

And I am pretty sure naruto caught Jiraiya By Surprise. He didn't expect that drastic change in power. Then that's his fault for underestimating Naruto's destructive power.

Also it's only during that fight the body "started" to show signs of weakness That doesn't change the fact the body was rejecting him.

also if he couldn't use ninjutsu how was he using rashomon?(which means he had started relearning all his jutsu). He couldn't use handsigns which limited the jutsu he could perform. Summoning Rashomon gates didn't require handsigns, neither did any of the White Snake Techniques.

Besides ORO doesn't has fire power to takedown Jiraiya anyway and eventually Oro would lose chakra and lose. Finally, a decent point in favour of Jiraiya. I'll admit that besides trying to seal Jiraiya's chakra or otherwise incapacitating him via genjutsu or something, then killing him with Kusanagi, Oro has very little in terms of offense. But seeing as the OP hasn't stated which version of Oro we're using, it's fair to assume this is prime version with Zetsu body and Hashi healing. The only way for Jiraiya to win is via frog genjutsu.

Lorenzo.r.1st wrote: u guys are thinking way too much into it.. just think outside the box.. outta 6 pains, jiraya defeated 4.. could either orochi or 4 tails naruto do that? see? problem solved. "Thinking too much into it..." This is the Versus Board, not a fan page. If you want people who don't know how to discuss fights, there's plenty of other places available. A>B and B>C therefore A>C logic doesn't work with Naruto. That's like saying Naruto beat Gaara who beat Lee, therefore Naruto beats Lee.