Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33959444-20180519003101/@comment-2043993-20180523190635

this is a tough one, But, while both are definetly monsters, I'd still say Orochimaru would win eventually. he got both the brains and the skills to fight anyone. If this was after he'd left Akatsuki, he'd have come up with plans to deal with any member of the organisation.

as in regards to some of the arguments that's been in favour of Kisame: Snakes under water may not be invincible, but they can still pack a punch if used correctly and Oro's "Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes" tech is quite useful as both a diversion and as an offeensive attack, perhaps capable of countering Kisame's Thousand feeding sharks or at the very least hinder that attack. Kisame's Great Shark Bullet tech could be countered by one or three rashomon gates (Oro actually shows some good defensive capabilities, Kisame can surround himself in a water prison, but that's not necesarily to his advantage when it comes to mobility).

About Oro drowning; the guy has modified himself so much waterbreath would be a no brainer for him to have, either by tech, modification or some sort of drug. we actully see him travel under water in chapter 583 (though admittedly, we don't know how long he was under), besides Kirabi managed for quite a while in that shark dome, Neji held his breath while talking in one of Kisame's water prisons, and Kakashi did the same against Zabuza. So having no oxygen might not be as big as a disadvantage for high tier ninja as it would logically be in the real world.

When Kisame gets close, Oro has his Binding glare snake tech or the hidden shadow snake hands, it might not be enough to hold Kisame for long, but he'd be distracted for a second, which is enough for Oro to give him a five element seal, making it harder for him to use tech. or just give him a curse seal a watch Kisame struggle with the after effects.

Kisame might be able to absorb chakra, but so can Oro. Samehade is a migthy blade, but Oro has his own sword, and if he gets bisected, he can literally pull himself together.

I think Orochimaru's arsenal and his intelligence wins him the day, after a long battle, but still, he'd win