Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34938099-20180730091858/@comment-28247797-20180830135929

@Nashikeine

1) Naruto got help in hitting Madara with that Rasengan (Onoki.), otherwise he wouldn't have hit him on top of the fact that Madara was distracted with fodder. Just like how Temari hit Madara with a wind style technique when he was battling the shinobi alliance, does that mean Temari can attack faster than Madara can react? No. He was distracted.

2) I don't see your point, if Madara wanted to yes I'm certain he could beat Kurama into submission but what would be the point if he can just genjutsu him, especially if the whole reason for confronting him to start was just to prep against Hashirama.

3) Genjutsu does work on perfect Jinchuriki, it's just only temporary.

4) Once again, Naruto got help in hitting Madara with that seeing as though Gaara and Ooniki pulled him out of his Susanoo and while Gaara waa swinging him in the air Naruto threw it. EMS wouldn't be needed for it seeing as though Madara can just Dodge it. If Naruto could hit Madara with it that easy then he'd have been blitzing Madara during the war arc with it easily. Naruto isn't getting outside help/influence here.

5) What does Naruto destroying wood clones have to do with juat about anything?

6) Okay? A Rasengan isn't beating Madara. If anything this battle is gonna come down to PS vs Naruto in link with Kurama.

7) TBB takes too long to charge, Madara casually does that in swings. TBB are balls, they don't have true effect until they land, therefore you can knock them away, grab them as shown with Hashirama, etc. Susanoo sword is a blunt force object, the nature of it's attack is different. It operates differently from TBBs, once it swings it's already doing full damage and you need to dodge.

8) Tell me the manga panel and page where Naruto and Kurama tanked the Juubi's TBB. I find that hilarious because the Juubi can pluck the eight tails and nine tails away like a bug.

BM Naruto wasn't fighting on even ground against Juubito, Juubito would've one shot him and Sasuke had Minato not saved them. The only reason BM Naruto pulled the tailed beasts out of Obito was because he had the help of the entire shinobi alliance along with Sasuke. Plus Obito's will faltered. In a one on one scenario Juubito would stomp Naruto.

Edo Madara said he was stronger when he was alive. Surely he meant in terms of base stats. Dude, Madara with no eyes and no sage mode blitzed Naruto with ease. Madara is literally superior to BM Naruto in every way, speed, potentcy, power, experience, skill, etc. The only thing keeping Naruto in this fight is Kurama. However that isn't enough to bridge the gap for Naruto. This is only a 50% Kurama albeit he has a Jinchuriki host. Madara's PS tanked a tailed beast bombs from a 100% Kurama. Naruto has nothing that scares or could handle Madara, he's even wielded Kurama before, he has full Intel on him. Madara wins low diff. Naruto and Kurama are largely inexperienced working together also.