Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-6769189-20200705100921/@comment-6769189-20200714101852

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Hamura and Hagoromo used tsb when they battled Kaguya. Chapter 690. No TSB on Hagoromo or Hamura

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Earth is special why can't you just admit it is special. Its not, you are just applying meaning when there is none

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Kaguya prepared army to defend earth. She built an army to protect herself

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

She ruled earth if it wasn't special she would never have betrayed Ishhiki. There are many reasons to turn on Isshiki. She could have wanted Shinju power for herself. She could have wanted to rule over people. She could have been prptecting whatever man she fell in love with and inevitably had kids with.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

But Naruto got SPS from Hagoromo's chakra. He got it from Hagoromo himself.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

The last 3 were floating behind him. Why did he needed to recover them. He used those 3 to create the TSB Raneshuriken and they were destrpyed in the clash with Indra's arrow

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

I said combining bijuu chakra creates ten tails chakra as ten tails chakra was used to create bijuu. Your point again Sasuke could have it but his susanoo had lightning coming out of it. The Juubi or Juubi chakra grants SPS and Sasuke isnt listed or described as having SPS. His final Susanoo isnt listed or described as SPS. Neither was Indra's Arrow. If Sasuke had or his Susanoo or his Arrow had SPS, he would have been at least twice as strong as Naruto in their final clash

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

I am not saying back markings is SPS but I am saying it has something to do with ten tails. Yet Naruto didnt have the 10 Tails.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

But his tsb aren't dependant on cloak they were present always and when he lost the cloak they were gone and never returned. They kind of are dependant on the "cloak." When Juubito was mindless and partically transformes he only had 2 TSB. When he gained control and transformed further, gaining a cloak, he had all 10

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He only managed to make one tsb from black zetsu. Wasnt a TSB, just replicated the properties of one

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

But he got SPS as a gift if it was gifted vs training then Naruto should never have gotten SPS. The training is scrapped in the war. SPSM is an expansion of Sage Mode. Just like KCM2 is an expansion of KCM. No need to train when you already know how to activate the ability. SPSM aslo grants him all the knowledge he needed to use it.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

He said only you have mastered the sage mode but in war Minato also did it. Kishimoto got tired and drawn the same eye pattern for Minato because we have seen him activate sage mode against Madara but we knew sage mode is strong against juubi jinchuriki since juubito. And Minato didn't use it and if you say it takes him time then there was plenty of time. Oriondragon181119 wrote:

Nope it doesn't as Minato having sage mode is not that much important because he used it once i war and Fukasaku never said Minato mastered sage mode. He only said Naruto is 1st to do it. You should reread the chapter. Fakusaku didnt say Naruto was the only one to ever master Sage Mode

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

And that's why its a theory. One with no backing evidence

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

It could have been like Sasuke's Rinnegan as Madara got two Sasuke got one. That has nothing to do with the Hashiboob being completely unnaffected by Hagoromo's chakra.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

It could have but we never saw susanoo's back. We dont have to see its back. We know that the Juubi grants SPS and since Sasuke didnt have SPS then he didnt didnt form the Juubi in any way

Oriondragon181119 wrote: @LegionZero If you don't like my theories then don't read it. The theory aren't always correct and that's why they are called theories if they were correct then they become facts. Theories are suppose to be based on facts. Not random made up stuff. If your theory contradicts facts, then it needs to be reworked.

Stop taking stuff so personally and just improve on your theory so that it stands up to the series' lore.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

And SPSM is not given to Naruto because he lacked gedo statue because databook doesn't say so. And now your theory is in correct so debunked. The databook doesnt touch on the subject. Since the databook doesnt outright contradict or offer an explanation that opposes mine, then my theory isnt debunked.

Oriondragon181119 wrote:

And yeah ten tails jinchuriki is Hagoromo. Kaguya merged with ten tails or she is ten tails. And if combining bijuu chakra creates kaguya's chakra then why Hagoromo told Naruto that Madara is becoming like Kaguya he should say Obito and Madara are becoming like Kaguya. And if ten tails chakra is Kaguya's then why she appeared only after Madara absorbed God tree. Zetsu was close to Madara 2 times when Obito stabbed him and when Madara stabbed him in Kamui's dimension but he waited for Madara to absorb god tree and then when he activated RinneSharingan he stabbed him. So ten tails chakra is Hagoromo's chakra and when the juubi jinchuriki gets RinneSharingan after absorbing god tree we get Kaguya's chakra. The Juubi/Juubi's chakra is Kaguya's chakra. Zetsu waited for Madara to absorb the Shinju so that Kaguya would be revived at 100%

Hagoromo didnt mention Obito becoming lile Kaguya because he wasnt the 10 Tails Jin

ReweR 1331 wrote:

I've always wondered why Jinchuriki Ten-tails become Sage of Six Paths? Sage of 6 Paths is a title for whoever becomes the Juubi's Jinchuriki

ReweR 1331 wrote:

The same Obito said he was the second Sage of Six Paths because he had Hagoromo's body and will. If the will is clear, it is obviously Rinnegan, then what about the body of Sage of Six Paths, if this body is the result of the transformation of Jinchuriki Ten-tails? Clarify this point. Which chapter?