Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3290849-20160123000240/@comment-25442883-20160123221115

Despite being anime only a scene where Madara use PS against Hashi after obtaining EMS it is highly possible he could use it, but ONLY after obtaining EMS.

Looking at how much strain Susanoo put on body with only MS it's possible that one can't achieve it without EMS. Even if one have a strong body who can withstand that it's safe to assume that by the time one got used to Susanoo would go blind of MS overuse before being able to use PS. Kakashi's case is bs enough, xD.

When Madara got EMS he was already much older than teen Sasuke and IMO i think if Sasuke had few more years to master Susanoo further he would be able to use PS too, but Hags upgrade happened before so we would never know.

As for vs battles which include pre Rinnegan Sasuke i think we shouldn't give Sasuke PS cuz we are talking about 17 year EMS Sasuke not 30 year EMS Sasuke (I made 30 up because i think by that time he would be able to use PS with only EMS)