Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20150902161700/@comment-26005711-20150906103129

Shadowflame55555 wrote: I've no doubt that Tobirama can beat Izuna (as it did happen) I'm just saying the two are relatively close to the point that Tobirama would have significant difficulty and possibly lose to Izuna whilst the latter has backup from any of the other Uchiha.

Also, from what we saw in the actual Hashi vs Madz fight, they were actually close to even. The kyuubi was sealed and thus useless to Madara before either of the two had done significant damage to the other. Hashi abandons his wood statue and faces Madara. Skip to the next time we see them, the actual valley has been created and both have lost their armour. This was obviously whilst Madara had no Kyuubi, implying that he was closer to Hashirama in power than people seem to think, especially considering they are saying things like 'Hashi curb-stomps Madara' when it was (to me at least) clearly seen that Madara was the closest thing to Hashirama's equal. Hashi will win, but certainly not easily. Madara was the closest thing to Hashirama's equal because he was the second strongest person at that time.