Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26636534-20160527151459/@comment-27924662-20160605165315

Thekillman wrote: Namikazenaruto9 wrote: @killman If you have watched the movie boruto the movie you would have observed that Naruto was free of those black rods the moment momoshiki died So its safe to assume that even if they were that dense the rods got destroyed the moment the caster died(in this case jiraiya's dead body)...... This discussion is pointless. Jiraiya's body is at the bottom of the big water outside Amegakure. It's not something i came up with, it's Word of God.

But let me humor you. Bodies floating in water depends on density differences. Water trapped in the lungs, bacteria producing gasses. Jiraiya was thoroughly punctured, so lung air is out of the question. That leaves decomposing.

Well, there's this: http://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happens-to-a-dead-body-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea

Turns out that 10 days is enough to scour a body clean in 300m water. It obviously is a matter of ecology, but the Narutoverse is similar enough to earth that we can say this is likely.

So, if Pain attacked after 10 days, and assuming the rods punctured the lungs (which judging by the manga is true), Jiraiya's body would sink to the floor and be eaten. By the time Pain dies, jiraiya's a skeleton.

The alternative is that Jiraiya's body would not be eaten, which leads to a different but similar outcome: His body would decompose very slowly (months to years). In that case, gases would not form and bunch up fast enough to make his body bouyant, so he would stay at the bottom.

Either case, he's fish food. Either case, it's the Manga that says that Jiraiya's at the bottom. either case, the argument is invalid. Either case, it changes nothing. @killman I don't mean to argue with something kishi has already said I am just trying to point out the "plotholes"(as we all are discussing in this thread) he has left behind by which he may resurrect jiraiya or give some twist to the story. If one goes through the plot of jiraiya's death He or she would realise that it was a tale befitting a shinobi only the end is inconclusive. I mean A village's tracker squad(or Anbu) is supposed to retrieve and dispose of a ninja's body so that No other nation can steal their secret or usually use as an edo.In this case Despite jiraiya being an legendary shinobi they didn't bother (or rather perhaps it wasn't shown).Also neither the toads retrieved his body with reverse summon which is pretty surprising. Also despite the body being punctured by the so called rods the body would still float....{just that it would have some very low terminal velocity due to low difference in density}Besides I think there are more chances of the wounds being blocked by platelets eventually causing body to rise to surface............