Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-24168857-20150708081120/@comment-25218206-20150803201710

"this would only show that he has BM or BSM if you add sage mode..." No. BM and BSM is only comprised of Kurama's chakra + Senjutsu (For BSM). Those two forms have no connection at all to the other tailed beasts. Hagoromo himself stated that in order to release the IT you have to have a Rinnegan and all 9 Tailed Beasts Chakra. Naruto has the Chakra of all 9 Tailed Beast's within him.

"this is speculation from the wiki, the [5] is as reference for ch.700+4, and naruto simply used KSM, nowhere was it shown that he had the power of the other beasts which are mostlikely a "must have" for SPSM..." If you look on the wiki http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Paths_Sage_Mode then you can see that SPSM is cross eyes http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150730222303/naruto/images/2/22/Naruto%27s_SPSM.png. The cloak has nothing to do with it. The only thing that matters is the eyes. Also the wiki says that it is SPSM, and that is more than enough proof that it is.

"he has all tailed beasts, yes, but SPSM requires them to fuse together and create "pseudo"-TT chakra in him, this wasnt said, at most this can be used in order to say that he has BM..." That makes no sense. If Naruto has all 9 Tailed Beast's then why can't he fuse them. Naruto still has his SPSM and that is not changing.

"he doesnt need SPSM in order to be a "meeting point" for the tailed beasts, he only needs to have their chakra (which happens with BM) the reason why i think that he doesnt (until shown otherwise) is because of the fact that he didnt use it in "the last", the fate of the world was on the line plus his wifes, and naruto wouldnt go all out? (needed or not) OR there is the requirement of "having the beasts near him", this would explain why he wasnt able to use this mode until now ^_^" Toneri's sword cut the Moon in half and Naruto blocked and overpowered it. Tell me, if Naruto in BSM was capable of blocking and overpowering Toneri's most powerful technique, then why did he need SPSM? Naruto one shotted Toneri in a much, much weaker form than SPSM, so why would he need a far more powerful form to deal with him? That makes no sense. Naruto is the 'Pillar" of the Tailed Beasts and he can summon them to talk to them whenever he wants.