Talk:Sarada Uchiha

Surrogate Mother? No. Incorrect.
We don't know that yet. We only know Karin is Sarada's biological mother and that Sakura is Sarada's adoptive mother. I would suggest labeling them as such, or simply labeling both as mother. But as it stands, calling Sakura a surrogate mother is incorrect as we have no idea how Sarada was born, just that she shares Karin's DNA. And in any case, Sakura would not be a surrogate, legally or technically speaking, as she raised Sarada. If Karin raised Sarada, then there is a chance maybe Sakura was her surrogate. But that's clearly not the case. – Mewshuji, Unofficial Nitpick of the Wiki 07:48, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, 3 AM for me and I end up mixing up my terminology. Fixed it. Sorry about the confusion. 07:54, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Officialnaruto (talk)With all due respect you dont even know is she is Karins child. Suigetsu could have taken sasukes DNA, will all know Karin was his stalker. according to Masashi Kishimoto, "Sarada is love child born between Sasuke and Sakura".

Maybe Sarada was born as a sick child and Karin was the only one who could help with her special ability thus the DNA rhing. Though i can bet what you said of actually being Sasuke's DNA and not hers. I can imagen the reaction to that--Haseo55 (talk) 12:40, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Adoptive or Step-mother? If Sasuke and Sakura indeed married (and Karin is the mother), then it'd be step-mother. Yatanogarasu (Talk) 15:54, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Steps are if the father re-marries, no?--Omojuze (talk) 15:57, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sakura= mother. Karin=biological mother. Sakura is the mother because she has bred and raised Sarada.--Sharingan91 (talk) 16:04, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * We're going by genetics here, aren't we? She might still consider Sakura to be her mother, but in reality (as of now) Karin is her mother. Now watch it be Sakura again in 2+ weeks >.<--Omojuze (talk) 16:11, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * So...is it confirmed by either Sasuke, Sakura, or Karin that Sarada is Karin's daughter? You know, the three people who've been absent for this entire thing? If they confirm it, the DNA test stands. If they don't, that goes dow nthe drain. Especially with Karin's obsession with Sasuke, for all we know it was HIS genetic material to do the test.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 05:02, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Uzumaki Member.
To my knowledge with the way clans seem to work around here, when a woman marries into a mans clan and they have a kid, their child is born into the fathers clan. But Karin and Sasuke never got married to our knowledge, so wouldn't that make Sarada part of the Uzumaki clan? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:18, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, think of it this way. When your parents are not married and have you, which last name do you take? Your mamas or your papas? I honestly can't come up with a better explanation.--Omojuze (talk) 08:21, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we would wait and observe how much Sarada inherited from the Uzumaki clan in this special case. If the Uchiha genes were absolutely dominant and Sarada is officially said to have no trait that can be affiliated with the Uzumaki clan, it's safer to not consider her an heiress to the Uzumaki clan. If she does though and shows exclusive abilities such as an improved regeneration ability, I'd personally put genetic inheritance above traits exclusively passed down to her through her familistic environment. --Matako (talk) 08:31, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work like that at all Matako.--Omojuze (talk) 08:40, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * The only reason we don't list characters as being part of 2 clans is because of the whole woman marrying into her husbands clan tradition, which isn't the case in this scenario, so that would makes Sarada part of both clans. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 08:59, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * If Sarada has Uzumaki's blood, she is a member of the uzumaki's clan. --Sharingan91 (talk) 09:07, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * So we came to ridiculous point if woman from clan marries man from clan child is member of father's clan if they are not married then child is member of both. -_- ./ Rage gtx (talk) 09:14, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sarada won't be added to the Uzumaki clan the same way Boruto and Himawari aren't listed as Hyuga clan members: Fathers clan takes precedent. Descendant of the Uzumaki clan, but not a member.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 09:18, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, it does. If genes are so dominant that the other genes cannot even be passed down through a so called "gene flip-flop", they are so recessive that we can not speak of an heir in the first place. That may be more than just unlikely to be the case in the real world, but it can be the case in the Naruto world, though it's also unlikely there because I assume that Kishi made her part Uzumaki for a reason. Let's say Sarada truly inherited nothing from the Uzumaki bloodline; then she would neither be a biological nor social part of the Uzumaki clan. As I said, going by real world logic, that would be as good as impossible, but if Kishimoto ever happens to clearly state that she inherited nothing from the Uzumaki bloodline, considering her as a part of the Uzumaki clan would be wrong.--Matako (talk) 10:46, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. Also, what TU3 said. A clan isn't a genetic trait, it's a family name. It has nothing to do with certain abilities to be honest.--Omojuze (talk) 10:49, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * What you are talking about is basically a different matter. You seemingly don't properly distinguish between genetic and social. It says a lot about how much value there is to your "argument", but hopefully you don't take this personal. --Matako (talk) 10:55, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wait.... What? xD You propose adding Sarada as an Uzumaki Clan Member, but it would be false and she doesn't belong to that family. What else is there to get? And what different matter? Are you speaking alien? A Sharingan is a genetic trait, a family name - is not xD You should do more research what a clan is before mouthing your "philosophies".--Omojuze (talk) 10:59, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Curve Ball Time If you want to be perfectly honest, chances are high that on a highly technical sense, neither Karin nor Nagato are actually part of the Uzumaki clan. By blood yes, but if memory recalls the clan was/is dead. Hell it could be argued that Naruto is not part of the Uzumaki clan. Anyway, carry on with this lovely discussion, I don't plan to intervene again.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:04, June 11, 2015 (UTC) Strip away all the unnecessary fluff; if a person has the genes, they are part of the clan. The long and the short of it is that a clan is only true gone when their genetic lineage has disappeared but Naruto, Karin and now Sarada have said lineage, thus they are still very much alive. After all, a clan doesn't need to cohabit to exist, that's not, and has never been the modus operandi. Pesa123456789 (talk) 11:42, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter if they are married or not, or whether they take the last name or not either. After all, Boruto and Himawari are listed as members of the Hyuga Clan, despite the fact they have Uzumaki last names. Besides, you don't just exit a clan and join another, children inherit the traits of both mother and father, Sarada would be just as much an Uzumaki and she is an Uchiha, and should be treated as such, just like Boruto and Himawari. Omega64 狐 (talk) 14:46, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sarada is as much Uzumaki as Tsunade is. They both are descendants of the clan, but they don't belong to the clan. Boruto and Himawari are not listed as Hyūga clan members, as per their infoboxes. Their Hyūga immediate ancestry is noted in the article, but for infobox purposes, they're not Hyūga. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:04, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not quite, because Tsunade's grandmother is an Uzumaki, not her mother like Sarada, so Sarada is more of an Uzumaki than Tsunade is. Either way, I understand what you are trying to say, all I'm saying is that there's literally no difference between the Uzumaki in Sarada and the Hyuga in Boruto and Himawari, even though one belongs to the Uchiha Clan and the other two belong to the Uzumaki Clan. Omega64 狐 (talk) 06:15, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Grammar
Sorry about posting it in this article in particular, but I couldn't think of a better place off the top of my head. After reading and editing this wiki for months, I couldn't help but notice that one editor is really in love with the phrase "to which", to the point where they use it in places it really doesn't belong. Examples of correct usage of the phrase would be:

"The town, to which he was going" "He was called a liar, to which he responded with hostility".

The wiki contains erroneous usages of the phrase, similar to the following:

"He has awakened the Sharingan, to which he is very proficient with."

The correct forms in this sentence would be simply "which he is very proficient with" or "with which he is very proficient".

So yeah, basically you need to learn that "which" can connect with prepositions other than "to". "With which", "for which", "over which" etc are all good.

Xfing (talk) 13:04, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Appearance descrption
I think her appearance description should be edited, and show what genes she inherited from Karin. Which is her weak eyesight, and facial expression. I think it should just say she inherited her eyes from Sasuke, besides the weak vision, since they have the same color and shape (Naruto even confirmed that she looks just like Sasuke, especially her eyes). I think it was said before that she has Sakura's eye shape but I think that's just to do with the eyelashes. I think her facial structure is more like Sasuke's, and well Sasuke and Karin have similar eyebrows, noses, and they both have the chin creases that Sarada has. And obviously Sarada inherited her hair color from Sasuke. I know this could change, it could revel later that the DNA thing wasn't accurate for that, and she actually is Sakura's biological child, but as of now it's a canon fact that she is Karin's biological child. (Clear Waters (talk) 06:31, June 12, 2015 (UTC))

I disagree. She inherited vision from Sasuke, we all know that Sasuke messed up his eyes during the fight with Danzou which is why he has now Itachi`s eyes. Also, just beacsue of last chapter you shouldnt assume that Karin is her mother! And her facial expressions are nothing like Karins, Kishimoto explained that himself in Naruto Gaiden book = "Sasukes look, Sakuras expressions, style and adittue.Officialnaruto (talk)

"She inherited vision from Sasuke, we all know that Sasuke messed up his eyes during the fight with Danzou" that makes NO SENSE, lol. Sasuke messing up his vision in a fight is not a genetic thing. There is NO possibility that she could have inherited that from him. By that logic then she could have been born with one arm, since when she was conceived Sasuke only had one arm. And, on this wiki it is treated as a canon fact that Karin is her mother, unless it's confirmed otherwise in canon. And that could be the case, but as of now, as far as we know, Karin is her biological mother. And Sarada does look like Karin, regardless, of weather it turns out that she is her mother or not. (Clear Waters (talk) 16:27, June 12, 2015 (UTC))

Page inconsistency
In Sarada Appearance section there is line: "Sarada has a fair complexion, straight shoulder-length hairstyle that she inherited from her maternal grandmother" - with link to Mebuki, some one with access to page please fix that. ./ Rage gtx (talk) 10:46, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Clan
On the clan section, "Uzumaki clan" should be added to it. But on the Uzumaki clan page, Sarada is already listed as a member. And on her page it says she is one. (Clear Waters (talk) 16:37, June 12, 2015 (UTC))

Appearance section
Um, someone should edit the appearance section. (Clear Waters (talk) 17:03, June 24, 2015 (UTC))
 * What's wrong with it?--Mina [[Image:Hatake Symbol.svg|20px]] talk 17:15, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

"She inherited her Sasuke's eyes colour while also having the same eye shape as Sakura in addition to her face." (Clear Waters (talk) 17:37, June 24, 2015 (UTC))
 * And? Just cause she is not the mother doesn't mean she can't be compared to her step-mother... >.>--Omojuze (talk) 17:38, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Well I guess thats true. But "her Sasuke's" should be "Sasuke's" or "her father's" lol. And I think what she inherited from Karin should be added like the weak eye site, which resulted to wearing glasses, etc. (Clear Waters (talk) 18:13, June 24, 2015 (UTC))
 * Its an obvious red-herring. Even the Boruto: The Movie promotional materials has Sarada as Sasuke and SAKURA'S daughter, not Sasuke and Karin's. Note, this is AFTER the Gaiden is over. Thus, she has ZERO of anything Karin in her.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:30, June 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know why people don't understand that Sarada being called Sakura's daughter is no indicator for a genetic relationship. She is her daughter. Her adoptive daughter, but still her daughter. My brother was adopted too, but we're not described as "The daughter Charlotte and the absolutely adopted son... pardon, "son" Marc". They are by definition mother and child. Kishimoto didn't say Sakura is the biological mother. He said she is the mother, and that is the case. The adoptive mother. But putting that aside, that this is a red herring is an assumption. This is a wiki though. We are not supposed to assume. We are supposed to record canon events. --Matako (talk) 12:24, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sharingan image.
Before Sarada's page gets locked again, i thought i'd bring it up on the talk page. Regarding this image, do we want to use it as her sharingan image in her ability section?? And secondly im not sure if anybody cares or if its even an issue but the current infobox image is of Sarada with the wrong headband color, so we could use the sharingan image, but her glasses in it are abit different. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 15:27, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know what's the problem with the trailer image is supposed to be. It's clearly visible and also from a 1080p image, so best quality. Indifferent to the infobox image though. Hanamizu (talk) 15:33, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * The sharingan is clearly visible to me aswell, so im in favor of using it in her ability section. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 15:39, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with the infobox image it's fine. The colored sharingan image should be in the ability section don't see anything wrong with it.--Kuroiraikou (talk) 18:58, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm also in agreement that the coloured pic of Sarada's Sharingan is perfectly fine and can be seen. If users cannot see it in thumbnail form, they should be making the effort to click the image, rather than just restoring a B+W picture. --Sajuuk 19:03, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Colour image hands down. --Sarada Uzumaki (talk) 12:39, June 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just looks like a person very picky with pictures. Both are fine, but the coloured is better... well.. cause it's coloured.--Omojuze (talk) 12:41, June 29, 2015 (UTC)