Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170909171417/@comment-33308438-20171012080316

LegionZero wrote: @mcpowa: most of the stuff he is talking about is headcanon backed up by nothing. Apparently "fastest ninja that ever lived" means absolutely nothing.

Some is claims are featless and unstated. The feats that are there are misconstrued and mis-contextualized. Like how Hiruzen jumped away from the Edo-paperbomb way before Minato Teleported Gamakichi and landed after Minato had already teleported how Minato and Hiruzen were not even in the same location after they escaped. And how Hiruzen clearly didnt move all that far from his original location He was clearly in the same location. You should look at his hand speed when he was striking with the staff, there were four after images , which gives a good insight to how his reaction speed are enough to handle minato. If oro was chosen by hiruzen above minato, then it means oro can react to ftg and his speed , no way in hell someone is stronger than someone else if they cant even react to thier rival's speed. Reaction and footspeed and shunshin are different. And if you go by the fastest ninja statement, I could also go by the the "god" statement which would easily put hiruzen above him , not to mention he got the fastest ninja name bcuz of ftg mastery , as ftg isnt even actually speed. Even DB confirms that. He couldnt dodge A punch without ftg. He's clearly not the fastest and there are a lot of people who can react to ftg like Bee, so hiruzen being the greater shinobi along with being considered a god , it shouldnt be far-fetched that he could react to ftg. His hand speed proves his reaction speed is off-charts not to mention minato couldnt dodge TSB even though it was thrown at him while obito did a surprise attack on hiruzen by shooting it from his palm even though you could see his reaction speed allowed him to slightly dodge it, even though it was too fast for even minato to dodge.