Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-32624156-20170721153715/@comment-25122992-20170729194739

UltimaDude wrote: Yes you are. You are ignoring context and misinterpreting his words. The only form of power Hagoromo gave to Asura is authority. Authority is a form of power, is it not? He made no mention of giving Asura actual power between the time he stated that he made him successor of Ninshuu and the time he explained how his sons continued their fued after their deaths. Therefore, anytime he mentioned power in relation to Asura and Indra, he means authority. Giving Asura actual power wouldn't accomplish anything. Can you or can you not give people gifts without the gifts being the same thing? The situation between Asura/Indra and the situation between Naruto/Sasuke would still be similar regardless Again, it's actually you who are missing some relevant claims made by Hagoromo only because they were mentioned only after the main story. If they were mentioned later on, it doesn't make them completely unnecessary. If Hagoromo meant "authority", he would've said "authority". But, in fact, he used the words "power". And again, if authority had such a great meaning for him, then he wouldn't have made the comparison of Indra/Asura and Sasuke/Naruto, since in the latter case he clearly gave them the actual power, instead of merely intrusting them with his own will. Plus, if gifts aren't one and the same, then the person mentions they how differ from each other, which Hagoromo didn't do. UltimaDude wrote: Actually it isn't as it wouldn't do anything. Hagoromo passed on the leadership of Ninshuu (which is everything to Hagoromo) to Asura and expected Indra to cooperate with him. If Hagoromo gave Indra actual power, that would give Indra a means to turned "Everything" doesn't necessary mean only ninshu. At least, it doesn't exclude the power, since technically the power was the main thing that allowed Hagoromo's teachings to come true. Without mastering his powerful chakra, he would've never learned how to use it to connect the hearts of people. UltimaDude wrote: But it is......as Hagoromo didn't mention actual freaking power I'd rather say it seems that he did, since he used the word "power".

But honestly, I'm getting a bit tired of this discussion, it tooks quite a lot of time to think through all of it and then type. It's not like I couldn't continue, but I feel neither of us is going to convince another one, so how about calling it a draw and just agreeing to disagree?