Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20190805194702/@comment-9782468-20190809184311

Sasuke summoning Garuda is explained by a couple things. One, Kaguya's dimension is linked to her Rinnesharingan, and he has the Rinnegan. Also, he's got a bajillion times more chakra than Nagato.

I know entering and leaving Kamui are two different things. However, anyone with a summoning jutsu should be able to leave Kamui, but literal Space Time Ninjutsu specialists can't leave.

There has been literally no shown way of exiting Kamui except by Kamui, unlike your Genjutsu example which has proof of different methods of escape.

Obito uses Genjutsu on those in Kamui so they don't gut punch him every time he's intangible, like Kakashi and Naruto did when they were in his dimension. Also so he can keep them docile when he pulls them out. Not because they could somehow escape.

You can argue Hagoromo used the animal path, but again that dimension has a connection to the Rinnegan. Also, you can make that argument but there's no indication that it's the animal path besides the fact that a Rinnegan user made a summon that may or may not have been done using the Rinnegan. In fact, it seems like all summons done by the Animal Path have some sort of chakra receiver in them, so idk how well that theory holds water.

17 Kage. One of them was Hashirama. There was also 3rd Raikage, Tobirama, Muu, just ridiculous chakra monsters. Even if Hagoromo was at 0 chakra, the amount he got from the Kage was absurd.

..."A couple of press ups and punches." Really? You know the databook noted that even using one Sharingan, Obito was trained to be almost a mirror image of Madara in life? Even though he wasn't quite at that point yet against Minato, you're really gonna discount him killing several dozen Jonin and Anbu, as well as forcing the 4th Hokage (who had flee on sight orders during his war) to take him seriously? Alright, treat him like he doesn't know what he's doing lol, idk what to tell you.

A cooldown for a technique doesn't scale to chakra used. Shisui's mangekyo had a cooldown of 10 years, but we know the technique didn't use 10 years worth of chakra because then he'd be dead. We know when a user is low on chakra because they visibly show it; it correlates to how fatigued they are. The Deva Path was fine, standing and moving just fine. The cooldown was just a cooldown

"Wasn't phased" But was coughing up blood and Konan was super worried about him, okay. Obito fought the full 9 Tails while keeping the other beasts under his control fought the full 8 Tails, fought Gated Guy and fought Kakashi, all at the same time for an extended period and still showed no signs of exhaustion at all.

Pain fighting the village? I doubt Pain broke a sweat. Pain's only issue during the entire fight against Konoha was Kakashi, and even against Kakashi he was mainly in control of the fight and was completely fine when the fight was over. The only casualty was the Asura Path, who was revived right after.