User talk:GokūBlack10

"Do not underestimate the visual prowess of the Uchiha, child!" — Obito Uchiha

Re: Don't Worry
Elevnora is an ass I should have blocked months ago. He's rude, condescending, he's the first one to bitch about bias but is open about his disdain for characters and the worst part of it is nothing could or can be done because his actions are done well enough that things against done against him does look like an abuse of power. Did you think I blammed you coming in as an attack on you? No no no. I know you would be the one who would fight back and turn the entire Sunday or Monday now into a long back and forth which will either end with myself of SnapperTo making a decision and we both know how my decision making has been taken as of late. What you do about the fuster cluck is your choice. The demonic statue at the very least won't be merged and to hell what they did on the German wiki. If memory serves me correctly this is not the German Wiki.

If you would be so inclined
would you care to weigh in on the discussion | here? I believe I have proven Seelentau's entire analysis of Magnet Release to be entirely incorrect. I have every intention of appealing to sysops to allow me to list Gaara as user so I would appreciate your input.--Reliops (talk) 01:21, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks, Fox, for your warning.

UDY (talk) 21:32, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Ur pain...
I just shared Ur pain of arguing with elve...it's a tough one...now I know that feeling bro...suddenly snapper2's profile flashed in my head... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 21:34, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

that would be defying reality...I prefer ignoring him cuz he wants to push his ideas & beliefs on others...but I think Ur process is sth similar too...although I know he too cares about this wiki...but some of his features mess the thing up...anyways...thanx 4 Ur opinions regarding shinju...I also brought sth else up in its talk page...would appreciate it if U gave Ur opinion about that too...U'll find it easily...if U care though... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 22:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yes Foxie, I'm not a real person, just an imagination in your head that refuses to go away no matter the amount of pills you take.--Elveonora (talk) 08:23, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Glad you feel the same way ;) ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 17:03, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then you might as well get used to me and cope with the fact that I'm not going anywhere :D--Elveonora (talk) 17:16, September 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * We all need to get used to you, unfortunately. We all do. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 17:18, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Could use your help
with reversing the Magnet Release stuff in articles.--Reliops (talk) 22:09, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't there some mod tool so you can mass select articles to edit?--Reliops (talk) 22:12, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

What a pain. OK, screw it, I'll get started. As I recall you did write a bit on Jiton for Gaara's page, do you mind redoing that?--Reliops (talk) 22:14, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Appreciated.--Reliops (talk) 22:17, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

I've added Magnet Release nature type to Bunpuku since that was also removed. That okay?--Reliops (talk) 23:18, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Jump
Weekly Shonen Jump αlpha is what they called the magazine in the first year, back when it was on a two-week delay from Japan. They changed the name to Weekly Shonen Jump when it went simultaneous with Japan. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:01, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, sir
How are you doing recently? I wanted to say that I wanted to add a precise citation to the Truth-Seeking Ball technique article, and I also know exactly the source of that name, but the article is locked so people can't have an edit war with the nature transformation and is on neutral, which is perfectly reasonable. I need help, please. It's just a minor edit. Dekoshu talk contrib 21:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Um...
Not trying to start another big TSB debate on your talkpage, but isn't Lightning Release supposed to be in Naruto's infobox? I thought we said in this discussion that Naruto has all five elements, and you wouldn't add Yin until a databook came... (and to anyone reading this who isn't Ten Tailed Fox, please, don't start another debate on his talkpage) -- WindStar7125   19:27, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And also, why didn't you add Yin and Yang along with Yin-Yang in the TSB infobox? You do need Yin and Yang to use Yin-Yang, right? -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:05, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting they be separated. I'm saying that the TSB infobox should be this: Wind, Fire, Water, Earth, Lightning, Yin, Yang and Yin-Yang, instead of Wind, Fire, Water, Earth, Lightning and Yin-Yang. I'm not saying replace Yin-Yang with Yin and Yang separately, I'm saying add Yin and Yang with Yin-Yang. For example, you need Earth and Water to have Wood, right? I'm saying you need Yin and Yang to have Yin-Yang. Not separate, but add. This is what I mean. -- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:17, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh OK, so what you mean is like, for example, the article Sage Art: Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands, it is a wood release technique, but you don't add water and earth to its infobox because they are premixed elements?-- WindStar7125 WindStar7125 Task.svg WindStar7125's Task.svg 20:34, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Apology & Question
Don't bother with it, I didn't behave like an adult either. I honestly don't care if you put Gaara as a MR user or not, but I just can't stand discussing with close-minded people who devaluate my work. It's part of the ego I built up in the last seven years of wiki work.

You probably know my way of thinking by now, but let me tell you again: I think we should only document, not draw conclusions, how logical they might sound to us. Because every conclusion might sound like bullshit in the ears of someone else. So in the TSB case, we should write down that Kaguya's TSB contain all natures, Obito's at least four and YYR later and don't know about Madara, did he ever negate something with his TSBs? As for Naruto, there never was a statement about his natures. Since the use of all natures seems to be a pretty big feat, it's weird that - if Naruto's TSB contain all natures - Black Zetsu never mentioned this. If all TSB have all natures, Black Zetsu wouldn't have waited with that statement or make it seem like such a big feat in the first place. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:23, September 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * But it's impossible to do the same in the MR issue? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:06, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then where do we draw the line? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:49, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then who decides if something taken from the manga is supporting an argument or not? People often dismiss arguments as "straw grasping", completely ignoring the validity of the argument and basically devaluing what the opposite is saying. So who decides if references are "too flimsy" or not? • Seelentau 愛 議 01:15, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * So if enough users are in favor of something, it simply becomes "correct"? • Seelentau 愛 議 01:42, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Naruto's natures
You know that I indeed still disagree about them in his infobox. I just want you to consider the following: the reasoning they are there is because of the Tailed Beasts, right? I suppose you agree that Naruto doesn't mold the natures himself, but rather the Tailed Beasts do and then transfer them to him. This can be evidenced by him calling to them when he wants to use their natures and lack of black rings around his eyes when he used Jinton, since you insist the black rings have to do with it, that must mean Shukaku molded its chakra into Jinton and gave it to Naruto rather than Naruto molding Shukaku's chakra into Jinton by himself.

Now you also insist that Naruto's Truth Seeking Balls consist of all 5 basic nature releases and Yin-Yang. Taking the above into consideration, that Naruto doesn't know how to use those natures himself, in order to use Truth Seeking Ball, he would have to be dosed the Tailed Beasts' nature transformed chakras constantly and I find that hard to believe, because not only is it ridiculous but we haven't seen him calling to them for their natures regarding his Truth Seeking Balls yet, only when he did Rasengans and so. We also saw him expand and throw one of his TSB as a wind release tailed beast ball rasenshuriken. Because of these two points, that's why I'm so firm about my belief for absence of said natures in his Truth Seeking Balls and why I don't like their presence in his infobox.

If the Tailed Beasts molding their chakra into natures and giving them to Naruto is a good reason according to you to have them in his infobox, then Gamatatsu and Gamakchi should be added as Wind Release users because Naruto transferred his Fuuton chakra into them in an anime filler.--Elveonora (talk) 09:47, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Naruto stood behind the toads' backs, touching and channeling Fuuton chakra into them. Later he even entered Gamatatsu's mouth in order to synchronize with them, I watched it to your surprise and remember it very well. And the infoboxes should display only the natures that the character in question knows how to use (in case of basic) and has genetic predisposition to use (when it comes to advanced ones). We didn't list Naruto as a user of Water Release just because he did a hurricane combo with Yamato, did we? And please, don't start another crap about how Yamato isn't Naruto's jinchuuriki and about some weird positional requirement logic that is made up.

Also you said don't butt in into our conversation, not "don't read our conversation" and you can't give such a prohibition, don't be silly.

Not to mention as expected, you've completely ignored all the point I made. I thought reason would convince you but apparently not, I must agree with your last sentiment though, I hope you will open your eyes.--Elveonora (talk) 16:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)