User talk:Elveonora

Re: in theory
Yes. But if the enourmous use of Izanagi, which also requires Hashi's cells, is a fact, then there's of course the possibility that someone of those Uchiha knew how to use Kotoamatsukami. Either that or Itachi somehow knew it from Danzō. Seelentau 愛議 19:10, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Chapter 658
LOL xD Yeah, I liked those scenes and you know, I hope that the same guy who animated Chibaku Tensei's episode will animate this part as well. Also the last panel of this chapter was really outstanding, he ripped out the poor Zetsu's arm and restored his right eye like nothing. Really amazing... — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 15:25, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly, by the way .... Tomorrow we have an episode which the battle between Naruto and his group vs. Tobi reaches its climax, it'll be an incredible episode, don't miss it. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:35, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with every point that you mentioned. It's time for Madara to start dancing with harmonic feeling to revenge. The main question for this chapter is how Madara could activate his Susanoo without his eye? I wonder about that... — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 18:38, December 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, no medical ninjutsu at all. As I recalled from his statement about Hashirama's ability to heal himself without using any seals. I think that Madara acquired some of those abilities from Hashirama besides gaining the senjutsu. As you know the Sage Mode helps its user to gain his strength so much as stated from Naruto's usage for Rasenshuriken and Kabuto's usage for his White Rage technique. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:11, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Obito VA
Glad to agree with me, still we'll have to use this new voice and let's see how Takagi will deal with his new rule. And as you know, I'm be used to get excited for the anime more than the manga.... Madara, you saved the both of them in this week. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 11:50, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: tb question
It's confusing, I know. Even when Kurama took over Naruto, he spoke with his mind, not opening his mouth. I like that kind of speaking and I can't imagine an entity like a tailed beast to speak as "swift" as a human, using its lips and everything. So I go with the mind speaking. Seelentau 愛議 16:30, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dunno, I never really noticed it. You can't say how a human speaks just from drawings. So the weird kind of speaking without using the mouth is anime-only. Seelentau 愛議 17:04, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

You've see this??
Kabuto is 22 here, so he was 17 5 years ago. I guess you could fit this into your Kabuto timeline?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:48, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Try this one then ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:55, January 2, 2014 (UTC) kabuto sais it has been five years and sasori sais kabuto yakushi were you followed?Iloveinoxxx (talk) 17:56, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

This was about 6 months before Sasuke betrayed Oro, Gaara(January) and Naruto(October) were still 15, so Kabuto(February) was still 22. That means he was 17 5 years ago. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 18:09, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Kabuto stuff
But... but all of my dates are backed up by the manga :(


 * Orochimaru left Konoha 3 years aNb, Kabuto became Genin 3 years aNb. We know that they left Konoha's ANBU together and that Orochimaru send Kabuto back to Konoha with the fake background.
 * Kabuto began to work for the ANBU five years earlier, meaning 2 years bNb, after having been found by Nono 2 years ago, meaning 5 years bNb. Why is it nonsense that he was two years old at that point?
 * Orochimaru left Akatsuki 6 years aNb, as stated in chapter 238 and 353, with Kabuto at his side.
 * Kabuto was a spy for Sasori after Orochimaru left Akatsuki, though Oro discovered Sasori's technique and made him his spy instead.

I didn't make this up, you know? o: Seelentau 愛議 18:58, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's probably the meeting Kabuto mentioned five years later, but Orochimaru isn't there because he already left Akatsuki and Kabuto worked as Sasori's spy. Seelentau 愛議 20:21, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * Because it's a timeline. First Oro wants to know about Akatsuki, then his time with Sasori in Akatsuki comes, then he's left Akatsuki and Kabuto works as a double spy. Seelentau 愛議 22:34, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: opinion
Forum post comes later. My plan is quite big. But before I do anything I need to know what the other sysops think about the issue first.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:33, January 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh it is grandiose. And i'll prob get me in trouble. Hence why Im asking questions first. And I meant whatever means "drooling". I'm just a god tier speller and those discussion pertain to my interest.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 16:31, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Help
Can you tell me how to archive my talkpage please and thanks. Munchvtec (talk) 15:58, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

ThanksMunchvtec (talk) 16:37, January 8, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Kaguya
The theory is found here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=944476 Celebrei (talk) 23:27, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Shiki Fuujin Kai
Based on the talk page of Shiki Fuujin Kai, you also noticed that Orochimaru needed to be in front of the Tablet to unseal the Reaper, this is true, think about it: Sasuke said "Appearances (Naka Shrine) does not matter, the important item is downstairs, let's go" and we see Sasuke lighting the candles in front of the Tablet, and Orochimaru donning the Mask in front of the Tablet, even crouching in front of it to summon the Reaper, now why would Sasuke said the Uchiha Tablet was important if he didn't read it? unless, the immediate use of the Tablet was for the immediate purpose of unsealing the Reaper? now others argue that perhaps Sasuke read the Tablet off-panel, however this is very unlikely, when Hashirama asked Madara how he knew about the Shinju/Kaguya/Hagoromo story Madara replied "So it is written in the Uchiha Tablet" Hashirama would've at least an idea of where Madara learned this if Sasuke read the Tablet after his talk with the Edo Hokages (and Kishimoto would've shown Hashirama having a flashback of Sasuke reading the Tablet after the latter made his decision) but there wasn't, because Sasuke never read the Tablet, the importance of the Tablet (as Sasuke said) was to use it in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask to unseal the Reaper, and that is why Orochimaru took forever to unseal it and get his arms back if the Mask was the only thing needed, because he needed Sasuke's Sharingan to open the sealed door of the Shrine for the catalyst of the Mask to work: the Tablet.

This is Kishimoto's deliberate and ultimate form of obfuscation to hide the relationship the Uzumaki Clan has with Hagoromo. Celebrei (talk) 23:46, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Tablet
Well if all Sasuke and co. needed was privacy then why didn't they unseal the Reaper and summon the Hokages in the Uzumaki Mask Storage Temple? it's pretty much abandoned and would provide the same kind of privacy the Naka Shrine served.

And if we look at it from a logical and deductive perspective:

Orochimaru wanted to possess Sasuke, but even if he did possess Sasuke, the soul part of his arms would still be sealed inside the Reaper, so Orochimaru still needed to retrieve it, but in doing so would kill the host body (which is Sasuke) so what Orochimaru should have done is have one of his fanatical servants sacrifice himself/herself for him to wear the Mask and unseal the Reaper so he could get his arms back, of course he could have done this even before possessing Sasuke because if the sacrificial servant would unseal the Reaper for him the soul part of his arms would just go back to him anyway without harming his host, that is, if the Shinigami Mask was the only thing needed to unseal the RDS, so why didn't he do it before? answer: it's because Orochimaru couldn't, the Mask itself is not enough to unseal the Reaper.

What Orochimaru intended was to possess Sasuke and use his Sharingan to open the sealed door to the Naka Shrine and have of his servants sacrifice himself for him to unseal the Reaper to get his arm's soul back while preserving Sasuke's body, because the catalyst for the unsealing is inside the Naka Shrine: The Uchiha Tablet.

Also, one cannot argue that Orochimaru was the one who was necessary to perform the unsealing to get his arms back, for Orochimaru was determined to possess Sasuke even before he got his arms back, if Orochimaru was successful in possessing Sasuke, he would not dispose of his body, Orochimaru will not wait three years again to perform the Reaper Death Unseal and dispose Sasuke's body just to get his arms back since Sasuke's body is Orochimaru's prized possession, therefore, it only stands to reason that anyone performing the Reaper Death Unseal is sufficient to get his arms back once his arm's soul had been released from it. So why didn't Orochimaru have one of his lackeys unseal the Reaper before? because they don't have access to the Naka Shrine were the catalyst for the unsealing is: The Uchiha Tablet.

This is just too obvious to be wrong, so we just have to wait until Kishi reveals more about it. Celebrei (talk) 01:59, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Moveset
I know know when exactly articles on video game jutsu began, but there were already here when I first joined. However, they had a lot of incorrect information, most of them were mistranslated. I corrected many of these old articles. We cover the franchise as a whole, and that covers the game. In my opinion, I think it's valid to cover individual game jutsu if the information is out there and available for consult to create the articles. There are others who think they're unnecessary as well, but as long as they're there, I rather they have the correct information, so I work on them when people make them. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:23, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hell
Yeah, that's true. This episode will be censored in the broadcast version according to Date-chi. But when this episode will be released in DVDs, it will be uncensored. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 11:24, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * The DVD is expected to be released in the next year. And about the spiral Zetsu, he has the same voice actor but the animator did some modifications on his voice to make it different. But Nobuo-san is very skillful voice actor and I like his rule so much. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 12:56, January 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * This episode was quite amazing for me. At least, the censorship wasn't that intensive and I really liked it. Megumi-san did a very good job in voice acting in this episode, despite her young age (24 years old) but still she did what should be done. And about the ending, I think it was very good and fits the ending of its manga chapter. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 15:30, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Like
Use the "Hide logs" option. ~SnapperTo 18:53, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: some of the dialogue
Zetsu says "Anyhow, the contents are splendidly nice, hm?" or so. It's an easy sentence, but difficult to translate for me. I think it's about the Tailed Beasts or maybe about Obito inside Kuro Zetsu.

Madara says "Furthermore, a new "eye" is also being raised... though I don't know if it'll stick to my side", obviously referring to Sasuke. However, it doesn't make sense that he stabs him a few seconds later... Seelentau 愛議 14:13, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh, he noticed him earlier, but it's weird that he doesn't show any real intereset in Sasuke or vice versa. Madara's after Sasuke's eyes, nothing else. And no, I don't recall that anime scene, I didn't watch part I for a long time. Seelentau 愛議 14:57, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * And why would that be Jūken? Seelentau 愛議 18:21, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
 * But isn't Jūken a bit more than that? I mean, otherwise Kakashi's Double Raikiri against Kakuzu's Raitonjutsu would be Jūken too, huh? Seelentau 愛議 19:03, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: 2 things
Trying to put more logic into the manga than it needs is what you're doing. I don't think the beasts have DNA, because they're basically Chakra. But what about Orochimaru? I don't understand what his abilities have to do with chakra and dna. Dunno about the life force thing. We're talking about stuff that only was hinted at and I'm currently not in the mood to think too deeply about Naruto and how everything works. Seelentau 愛議 11:03, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: feiku
tho ain't no word, tho Seelentau 愛議 17:31, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Yahiko age source
Seelan gave it. Munchvtec 13:26, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

The thing about Munchlax and rectum, yea real funny. Change whatever you want I wont change it back and also what do you mean by "For Your Sake "? Also you don;t have to be disgusting and rude about users behind there back like I wasn't going to see that comment. Munchvtec 16:40, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

it was on Itachiwasaheroes talk page the latest addition and im assuming he translated it because he said he would. Munchvtec 16:56, February 3, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec

Re: Yahiko's age
No, I did not translate that. However, I read it in the blog post and told it to Mister Omnibender. Seelentau 愛議 17:10, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Charasuke
It's not an episode at the very least, which is what the page was categorized as.

No opposition to its recreation, assuming anyone can find more about it. ~SnapperTo 19:51, February 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Found a download for it. Maybe someone wants to pester Seelentau to translate it? ~SnapperTo 19:58, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * You want me to translate a drama cd? What? Seelentau 愛議 22:15, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * No need to fear, Kirin is hear! Hear is a brief summary of the CD: http://kohaya7kae-13.deviantart.com/art/Road-To-Charasuke-Official-SasuHina-Interaction-369209178. You can use this information to make the Charasuke page. --KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 23:50, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * ah, I see, so that's how it is. Well, as it is already translated, just do what you must. Seelentau 愛議 09:27, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re: just wondering
I used to be an editor (and short-time admin) at the German PokéWiki, yes. But my interest faded after Generation IV. I still own a 3DS XL and Pokémon X, but I'm not into it anymore. Thinking of selling everything and buying some new pc components, but the memories... Seelentau 愛議 08:41, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Pokemon
Competitively, I think Chikorita was bad, or at the very least had the least opportunities to make stupid broken. Way back then though everyone was going for the Cyndaquil. Very few went for Totodile, and even fewer went Chikorita. But I loved that cute little green and yellow thing (Old Man Voice: Because in MY day, Chikorita was @#$&ing yellow and green!). After Chikorita though I started to exclusively pick up the water starters, so Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Froakie, and whatever the next one will be. But Chikorita will always have a special place in my heart and hopefully my team.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 13:00, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * I always use the fire type as my starter. Dunno why :D--~Ultimate Supreme  15:59, February 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL. Not really, its just the right time that I login ;).
 * I never thought anyone would ever read the entire thing :D.
 * Nope, I just read manga nowadays that college has started. Might watch them all at once in holidays xD--~Ultimate Supreme  16:27, February 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fun fact, Empoleon was actually the weakest starter of its gen, at least in comparison to the others. Mainly it's Steel and Water worked against it. It couldn't fight Impernape because steel is weak against fighting. It couldn't fight Totaria (or however its spelled) because Water is weak against grass.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 16:48, February 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Its the most distinct starter too.--~Ultimate Supreme  17:07, February 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * You may say I "was" a hardcore. Platinum, I would say. Played emerald for long time too --~Ultimate Supreme  18:16, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: timeline
Yeah, gotta work on my timeline a bit, but let's finish this awesome arc first. ;) Oh and about Pokémon: I never watched the anime "for real", my fav version is HG/SS as well and I don't play it anymore because I don't enjoy playing singleplayer games anymore. I know there's a huge fanbase and multiplayer stuff, but that's too much for me. Dunno, maybe I grew out of it after all. Seelentau 愛議 15:44, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * A bit Minecraft and a bit League of Legends. Currently I'm on gaming hiatus, gotta watch HIMYM. Yeah, Imma bit late on that one, but it's awesome nonetheless. Seelentau 愛議 17:10, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Hey
Charsasuke? The one CD drama that came along for Road to Ninja? I remember looking it up a while ago somewhere on Tumblr, but the translations were incomplete, so I just gave up looking at them since a fan did. It wasn't all the good to me, so I couldn't really use it was a source material. I've created pages before on the Narutopedia (mostly locations for Konoha), but I'm not sure if I'm up to task, though. ^_^; You said there were translations somewhere, right? Are the ones you're talking about accurate?-- Ninja Sheik  21:28, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I've just finished reading (well, skimming) over it. Lol! How weird! XD So, just so I understand what's on in this thing: the CD drama basically takes place shortly after Playboy Sasuke gave Sakura the rose in the movie. Hinata and Ino goes to Sakura's house. Hinata plans a group date to set Sakura and Sasuke up together in order to prevent Sakura from getting "Menma". Ino doesn't like the idea and wants to protect Sakura from getting hurt. She confides in Chōji and Shikamaru for advice, and they all agree to go on the date to protect Sakura. The date happens, the Ino-Shika-Chō trio acts desperately to prevent Sasuke from winning Sakura's heart and failing miserable at it while Hinata encourages Sakura's attraction to Sasuke by pointing out Sasuke's good points. Throughout this whole thing, Playboy Sasuke uses his Sharingan (lol! XD) on to help with the date and scare his fanclub away when they follow him to the restaurant. Near the end of the date, Ino uses Mind Transfer on Hinata, and makes her drags Sasuke away before he could get Sakura to himself. Playboy Sasuke misunderstands Hinata's behavior as jealously and thinks she likes him, Ino leaves, Hinata regains her conscious, Sasuke hits on Hinata, and Hinata sends Sasuke to the ground with a punch. Ino and Sakura have girl talk, Sakura says she had fun and goes to meet with Naruto, Ino-Shika-Chō pats themselves on the back for being there for Sakura. CD drama ends with Naruto passing by grumpy Playboy Sasuke after being socked by Hinata.

Did I get the gist of it? ^ __ ^-- Ninja Sheik  23:01, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Eh~? Seriously? Who creates a page and doesn't put anything on it? o__o Hmmm, I never created a page based off a merchandise, let alone for a CD Drama. It can't be too hard, right? Hmm, if no one else is going to do it, then I guess I can take a crack at it. But when I have time, so I'm busy with college and all. I even had a math test today (hoped I passed), and I have to study for my biology and music class tests this week (what a drag...-__-). But sure, I'll give it shot. I'll try to do it this weekend. :)-- Ninja Sheik  21:09, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Aw, thanks. :)-- Ninja Sheik  04:56, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Rinbo: Hengoku issue
You said Rinbo: Hengoku should be considered Deva Path jutsu on the fact policy discussion. I agree with you but others still don't believe it. Can you try to help?--Rinneganmaster (talk) 23:53, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Traffic
I saw your question at Simant's talk page. The only traffic related info I know of is this. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:17, February 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * The Dashboard also has some quick stats which atm say 5.3M (weekly)
 * You can also request "Quantcast stats" from wikia.--~Ultimate Supreme  17:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

If I may ask
How in the he'll does a blind person even use a wikia?Munchvtec (talk) 22:25, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

I know and I don't treat blind people any different, there the same as us and thanks for the info anyways Munchvtec (talk) 22:36, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: mystery solved
Who... was that again? Seriously, though. There's no one I can think of that would make sense. Really no one. Seelentau 愛議 22:50, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: ._. just
As it turns out, I am seriously reevaluating Karin. She demolished Spiral Zetsu. That was pretty unexpected. I've disliked Kabuto ever since he was revealed to be a villain. He was so cocky and snide, which was, up until he became Kabutomaru, completely without foundation since he was nothing more than a bookworm before then. I felt least connected with him. Even with Obito, which people give more hate than necessary, I can connect with the guy and understand why he went bad. But with Kabuto it was just like... I don't know. He felt lacking. More like his reasons for going evil were completely for his own ego. Yeah, there was all that junk about Nono, but still felt extremely lacking for the massive **** he became. At least Obito, in his Tobi and Madara persona, was a total badass. Suigetsu and Jugo kinda have the same reasoning behind them. They were built up as these super elite experiments of Orochimaru and ended up becoming fodder (which was also my original reason for hating Karin). They came in practically to be Sasuke's b****es and have remained such ever since. Suigetsu hasn't had a truly defining moment yet, and even Jugo's rampage at the Kage Summit wasn't all that impressive.

Overall, I tend to enjoy the characters I can connect to, emotionally, intellectually, or whathave you, better than the characters who just have flashy moves or are built up to be "superior" when they're introduced. Even characters like Minato I can't enjoy, because for all he was built up to be, the guy is kinda lacking, which I guess Kishi did on purpose, from Tobirama's numerous comments. Anywho, that's my take on it. Glad my avitar got a reaction out of you XD ~ Ten Tailed Fox 04:55, February 13, 2014 (UTC)


 * Very true. And you're right. I am very bias towards Obito. Definitely more so than Kabuto. I don't think I'd hate Kabuto so much, if I had known his reasons earlier on. But I'm bias towards Obito because I get him. I don't fully understand Kabuto, likely because I've never been in a similar situation to him, so its a mismatch. But with Obito, its like, growing up in a family where I was mostly ignored compared to my siblings, I know what its like to be completely overlooked and to have your accomplishments put second or even last to others around you. And I know what its like to care about someone, not necessarily a love interest, but someone of great importance and have them ripped away. Its a much more hollowing feeling than most people understand. Doesn't mean I'd dawn a mask and declare war on the world, but I guess what I'm trying to say is I can understand how he eventually could follow the trail of thoughts to that mentality. Wow... that was much more sentimental than I intended it to be. Maybe I read into this manga too much >_<


 * On Suigetsu's situation, yeah, he definitely did a cool thing by taking a Bijudama for his comrades, but in the scope of things, it wasn't a "defining moment" that made me really respect his character. Because Suigetsu and Jugo could've become major players and, in the end, it seems that all Kishi used them for was furthering Sasuke's ambitions. That's the only times they were ever relevant plot-wise and that sorta irked me.


 * And then there's Minato. I mean, I was one of those fanboys that, pre-his resurrection, thought he was just some massive badass because of the way Kishimoto built him up. Literally since the beginning of the manga we were lead to believe that Minato was just this Ninja Jesus and it turns out, in fact, that he pales in comparison to even his son. I like him personality wise, but, when observing the past three Hokage, I actually wonder how he was ever made Hokage. He doesn't seem near the same level, though that could just be his age. That's just me though. I'm kinda weird in how I judge characters, so there's that ~_~ ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 03:22, February 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Amen. Really curious to see what happens this week, though. Looks like Madara is really steamrolling everyone. It'll be interesting to see how Kishimoto brings Naruto out of this one. My hopes are that Saukura uses the One's Own Life Reincarnation on him and kicks the can herself >_> A man can dream, right? ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 04:20, February 16, 2014 (UTC)


 * I sure hope so. And yeah, I see Sasuke awakening the Rinnegan myself. I started predicting that way back when he got his EMS, but now it seems more likely than ever. I'm really curious as to who this mysterious person is approaching Sasuke, so I hope Kishi doesn't keep us in suspense too long concerning that guy. Could be Kabuto, but personally I don't believe it is, since Karin didn't recognize the chakra and even Orochimaru seemed concerned. Here's to hoping its somebody epic. All in all, yeah. I'm pretty happy with Kishimoto lately. He seems to really be on a roll. Let's hope he keeps it up right through to the end. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 16:39, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

O' great
Lol I hope you were being sarcastic with him. His ego doesn't need to get any worse. --OmegaRasengan (talk) 15:42, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re: for it
DARY! eh, wrong series, sorry. It was Obito who persuaded Yahiko, not Madara. Seelentau 愛議 07:57, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a lie. The anime confirms that, hm? Seelentau 愛議 15:38, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * ...oh, well, you're right. I don't recall Obito ever talking to Yahiko aside from that one time... so maybe it was Madara? But Madara should've been tied to the statue at that time... Seelentau 愛議 15:51, February 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Technically, he didn't lie, because everyone assumed that he was Madara at that point. Seelentau 愛議 15:56, February 14, 2014 (UTC)