Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-45235418-20200316185119/@comment-34656247-20200401192125

Ninja Of War wrote: Hahaha. There is two parts to this, lest you forget.What the wiki says is obvious (one of the first things it mentions is mimic-ing pencil movements lol) and the way you are presenting it suggests tracking objects and predicting their path are mutually exclusive. Which we know is not the case. I don't see it stating it can predict objects so..i think sasuke couldn't predict the movement of Kurama's chakra arms back in part 1

Guiding thunder differs from my assumed use? Lol, in what way? The mechanic works regardless. Desperately? Lol, you forgot the original point I was discussing (conveniently) about Minato using FTG:second step and Itachi not being able to counter. It differs yes, you're assuming it works like a vacuum, he activates it and susanoo get's sucked in, that's not the case. The bijju dama literally had to make contact with the portal, which is what would be needed of susanoo here. My counter for FTG second step remains susanoo or crow substitution.

1) Yeah, easy to disregard/ignore multiple dialogue cues lol. How does this help Itachi counter speed?

2) Gonna need proof on your statements, but Itachi can apparently see chakra, so how is that irrelevant lol? He sees where he looks, he simply wasn't looking at sasuke in the last 2 panels before kirin came down, his focus was on the lightning.

3) Gee, I wonder what must be racing through Itachi's mind as a way to survive that potential attack...lol. Wishing he had kamui instead.

4) Proof for that? As certain users make clear, Itachi can still see chakra at this point and Sasuke's hand was still lit up with Chidori. I don't think the ability to see chakra is constantly active, similar to how the sharingan can see on a microscopic level,. 391 pg 8-9. If he wanted cues on when kirin would land he would've kept his eyes on Sasuke's hand, but no, he was staring at kirin.

5) Proof once again needed. It never happened in the manga is what i'm saying, to prove this i'd have to post every page..

6) So you agree on the final dialogue cue. Backed with the example i provided.

I acknowledged the timing as I said before. But it's not pure reaction, it's prediction Where did the prediction start in your opinion?

You want to talk about Minato now? Ok, but we can't even get past this lol. Heed the example i gave...Minato can't react against what's faster for him to process, same applies to Itachi.