Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5085906-20170718161339/@comment-5085906-20170721213201

Namikazenaruto9 I don't know what's location gonna do in this case? Kisame already has made sea in Sungakure.(See Guy Vs Kisame during kazekage retrieval mission) Baku could be countered with Kisame's multiple Shark summon. As I said before He has taken down Lava styled Jinchuriki without Samehada that by itself shows how skilled kisame is even without sword. you still haven't said anything about the killing blow. Yeah, but it's been established in the Narutoverse that using an elemental jutsu on an environment lacking said element requires extra chakra. I know that with Kisame's large chakra reserves creating a sea in a desert can't be that taxing, but it's still chakra that he's spending. And the Sunagakure climate also suits Danzo's elemental affinity, Wind. He was already shown being able to use Baku's suction to benefit his Wind release.

And I doubt Baku could be countered with the multiple shark summon. The only reason Sasuke could get away is because his Fire release jutsu was also enhanced by Baku's suction (since Wind enhances Fire) and thus served to overpower him. I don't think Danzo is as weak as many make him to be - it's just that Sasuke was a bad match-up for him, he was saving his chakra for his eventual fight with Tobi AND there was a lot of plot involved or as one of the users here referred to as "idiotic writing". I have no doubt that Danzo would have eventually killed Sasuke.

As for the killing blow, well the fact that Danzo can use his Wind Release to increase the range and deadliness of any weapon that he possesses is good enough for that I guess. Couple that with his ability to plant a curse mark on a person via touch. There's your killing blow. Though fyi, I have no doubt that Kisame would eventually break out of it (kind of like he snapped out of Aoba's mind probe) but Danzo would be able to deliver a killing blow if he doesn't dick around like he did when he had Sasuke's life on his hands.

Also, Kisame defeating a Jinchuuriki is quite a feat but useless when we barely even saw that fight. There's also that whole thing about Danzo defeating Shisui, one of the top Uchiha who was on par with Itachi, but since we don't know the specifics of that battle maybe it's best not to dwell on it. Tobi also theorized that Danzo was set on controlling Nine Tails after looking at his body mods. That should make him at least as formidable as some Jinchuuriki.

I don`t think Danzo can win. Izanagi is used to make opponent to run out of chakra/stamina before you are going to be "refreshed", so this trick won`t work against Kisame who is able to restore both his stamina and chakra via Samehada. Even if Kisame is wounded, he still will be able regenerate as well. I doubt that Danzo`s techniques are dangerous enough to mortally wound Kisame without chance for him to restore. In fight Danzo against Sasuke Obito speculated which one of them would run out of stamina first. Danzo will be exhausted when all his eyes are closed. Kisame will never be exhausted. Kisame takes this. True, but Samehada needs to make impact to suck on Danzo's chakra. With Izanagi activated, that's near impossible. For example, take this scene: - Sasuke squashes Danzo, Danzo appears behind him almost immediately. Neither Tobi, who's a sensor, nor Karin who is arguably the best sensor in the series, could tell he was there. Not to mention how he can control his spawn point. He could teleport behind, to his side, in front of Kisame and there would be no Susanoo to defend him. Yeah, Kisame probably knows a thing or two about genjutsu from his partnership with Itachi and I do acknowledge that he's a powerhouse considering the hardship he survived just to deliver some intel to the Akatsuki, but I don't think he's ever experienced genjutsu being used this way.

Honestly, I was the one who tooled on Danzo several times, but I don't think he's as weak as many make him to be. Yes, he lost against Sasuke, but that's just because Sasuke was a bad match-up for him. Kisame also lost to Gai for the same reasons.

I think Danzo takes this, high difficulty.