User talk:Demonic Phoenix

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Re: Amenotejikara
You do have a talkpage. Everyone has one. But, onto your concern. On this wiki we don't want the trivia sections to be cluttered with random things, only significant things. Sasuke teleporting behind a person with the technique and then using the "Black Chidori" doesn't qualify as anything signficant. I mean in the manga and anime, he teleported and then used Susanoo against Kaguya. Should we put that in the trivia too? I hope your answer is no. But, I hope you understand. --Rai 水 (talk) 21:27, June 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * There are some cases that some game oriented things are allowed. Some things are in need of removing. However, Sasuke using a technique after using Amenotejikara is not that significant. If you still don't get it, then that's your problem. --Rai 水 (talk) 22:52, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

Sasuke admits Naruto is stronger than him.
Sasuke didn't lose a 'philosophical battle', he lost the battle period. He blacked out for extended periods while Naruto stayed conscious and was still ready to fight. Not to mention he only 'matched' a weakened Naruto after getting a power up. Naruto is the main character, and Sasuke even admits Naruto beat him and is stronger than him. Seriously, your twisting things even though the manga and Sasuke himself says your wrong since you want Sasuke to be equal to Naruto when they aren't.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:53, February 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Naruto was conscious throughout the entire night waiting for Sasuke to wake up. Their final clash despite losing their limbs? Naruto waited for Sasuke to wake up. And yes, Naruto was weakened and exhausted from the War: tell me without the Biju, how would Sasuke 'equal' Naruto if he used all the Natural Energy he did in the final battle huh? Kurama explicitly said Naruto was weakened and exhausted for the battle too. And who translated that huh? Sasuke admitted Naruto was stronger than him, the gap isn't big, but its there. Its the same with Hashriama and Madara. Kishimoto made it that way. He had to gimp Naruto for the final battle and Sasuke maintained that Naruto is stronger than him.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 00:36, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * You have a massive selective memory and a Sasuke bias I see. Naruto and Sasuke, despite losing their limbs, Naruto stayed conscious. Hell he was waiting for Sasuke to get up so they could fight again. And no: even though they fought in the same war? Naruto fought for a FAR LONGER PERIOD than Sasuke. Sasuke conserved a LOT of his strength and by the time of their final battle? Naruto was running on fumes. Kurama explicitly says he was exhausted from the War while Sasuke has had no handicap there. And Sasuke had to get a one time only power up to match Naruto even in that state, while Naruto can freely draw upon the power of natural energy and replicate what he did at any time due to his mastery of Sage and Six Paths Sage Mode. Without the Biju: how are they equal? How are they close in power when Naruto can do the Asura Mode at ANY time he wants?! They aren't equal, there is a gap. Otherwise? They'd have had a battle when both were fresh. But no, we have several handicaps for Naruto: holding back so he doesn't kill Sasuke, exhaustion from the War (he was fighting in it while Sasuke was basically doing nothing) and Kurama's chakra running low. Seriously, anyone who argues they are equal puts their fingers in their ears and ignores all of Naruto's advantages and the handicaps he had to get in the final battle.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:40, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh and your analogy and comparison doesn't make sense and you're only trying to make it so. Naruto and Sasuke had a bet in Boruto whether the spirit of the ninja had changed, Naruto thought it had, Sasuke hadn't, and due to Boruto's performance Sasuke's view had been verified. With Naruto and Sasuke's final conversation at the Valley of the End though? Naruto was STILL WILLING TO FIGHT, Sasuke wasn't. Also Naruto was conscious right after the clash while Sasuke wasn't. Why do I bright up Hashirama and Madara? Since they are the parallel that the manga explicitly used. Hashirama and Madara were close in power, but never equals. Its the same with Naruto and Sasuke and the feats support it. You show nothing but Sasuke bias and twisted logic.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 04:52, February 2, 2017 (UTC)