Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27233105-20160130092635/@comment-9782468-20160222140433

Manga panels can't really be used for reference though, they have no sense of time. If we used manga panels, Lee and Sasuke from Part 1 are faster than the Raikages.

In any case, if Itachi used time manipulation, any info you might get from the manga panels is skewed because you'd see more time than what went on in normal time.

Also, even if Itachi held back, he still probably used time manipulation, but made Tsukuyomi easier to break out of. Like I said before, without time manipulation, it's basically Genjutsu: Mangekyo Sharingan or Genjutsu: Sharingan. And like it's been stated before, if an Uchiha is powerful enough, they can break out of Tsukuyomi.

But yeah. I still stand by what I've said. I think Minato high difficulty. Or maybe tie. Kurama is just too powerful an asset, and that combined with Minato's battle intelligence and strategy (that at least matches Itachi's), Minato will be able to overpower him.