Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170128170340/@comment-9782468-20170204074423

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: @Princeharris1993 Since you have quoted the interview I will quote the feats which shows Madara was the luckiest character ever created(and two I don't consider Madara as a villain ever,More like hero who went on wrong path....) While fighting the 4th company Vs Gaara, Onoki and clone naruto; His screen time was going to be over with that hit with rasenshuriken but at very last moment he got the rinnegan. The so called no weakness guy has never even won against hashirama with fair contest of their powers. Every time he was spared by his target. Than again as edo when he was cornered by hashirama and was going to be sealed, He escaped with rinne-rebirth(by obito-BZ) steals away chakra from hashirama in style. The tailed beasts were going to finish him off but once again Zetsu came on right time to give him the rinnegan Once again while fighting guy he barely escapes with life after night guy. Against Naruto and sasuke(after upgrade) again he barely escapes using limbo and than uses IT If you consider all the feats Madara has every time escaped because of timely help or luck factor. The so called superb plan always was associated with luck nothing more. And if you consider itachi who plans everything to the last detail(case in point VS Orochimaru-Sasuke, SM Kabuto ) He will lose badly considering he only has EMS/(maybe)Rinnegan. Itachi has everything to seal him back and stop any attack which madara has because of superior Susanoo or the rinnegan tech. Madara already had the Rinnegan awakened. He just activated it to use its powers when he needed it.

He pushed Hashi to his absolute limits. More than likely, their clans gave them the opportunity to get away.

Madara literally forced Obito to use the Rinne Rebirth on him so he'd be reborn.

Considering Madara was fighting with no eyes, it doesn't surprise me that he was losing against all 9 Tailed Beasts. Then with only one eye, he pushed them all back easily in one move.

Night Guy isn't an indication of Madara's weakness, but Guy's power in the 8 Gates.

Itachi's plans ultimately failed.

Also, EMS Madara was barely below Hashi. Just barely. So Hashi is basically just able to beat him. You're telling me Itachi is on Hashi's level or higher?