Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-35409024-20200919150406

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Where is proof he's faster than Itachi? non existent.

Prior to Ems he was said to be Izuna's equal aka can fight on equal footing. Izuna was said to be equal to Tobirama and fight on equal footing with Tobirama aka can keep up. Tobirama is said to be the fastest of his time. Madara is able to keep up with the fastest of his time. What feats or statements does Itachi have that consider him fast prior to edo? And no you don't get to use edo feats if others can't do the same for Madara.

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Where is proof he would beat Itachi in Taijutsu? Where is yours? Lol, someone who fought the God of Shinobi equally in Taijutsu vs someone who fought equally with Kakashi in Taijutsu? GG.

"Together with Senju Hashirama, they were called Legendary Shinobi. The strongest man of the Uchiha Clan is Madara. When invoking the destructive God that is the Complete-Body Susanoo, his strength is to the extent that it even rivals that of the tailed-beasts." ~ Kishimoto, 4th Databook page 59.

"They are equal in strength. Madara remained unchanged, but Hashirama changed for the sake of the village. A paper-thin difference between the two of them decided victory or defeat." Kishimoto, 4th Databook page 61.

So according to the writer of the series, Madara at VOTE was equal to Hashirama and only a paper-thin difference decided the outcome, thus disproving your claim that Madara was not on par with Hashirama with EMS. Furthermore, Itachi himself claimed inferiority to Madara when he stated he shall surpass him. Keyword /shall/ which means in the future and not yet achieved. Shall is an expression of the future tense. So Itachi had claimed he had not surpassed Madara, /yet/.

Kin201 wrote: Itachi is not Kakashi's level lmao.

He is if we are going by prior to Edo feats as Blood wanted. Itachi has no feats that put him far greater than Kakashi. Now if you were to allow his Edo Tensei feats, then sure.