Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26998824-20160216220701/@comment-26403664-20160217200747

@Rachin123 You straw-manned me. "And that arguement about Kakuzu not being able to absorb ninjutsu is stupid as you make it seem that if a user can't absorb ninjutsu they lose against Jiraiya" That was not my argument at all, but it clearly does support my argument as I'm pretty sure Nagato's Pain's can top Kakuzu's heart monsters. "Also, Kakuzu's ninjutsu is no joke. Like half of Jiraiya's ninjutsu revolves around toad techniques," Kakuzu's ninjutsu is impressive indeed but Jiraiya has matched it. And your argument makes no sense. Jiraya's abilities do not all require toads. Ultra Big Ball Rasengan alone proves that. And even if they do need toads it doesn't matter they can trump Kakuzu's jutsu. He used the Dark Swamp technique twice and just because Kakuzu can counter it doesn't mean he wins and assuming that his masks could take care of Dark Swamp doesn't support your argument what so ever. "Not discrediting Jiraiya, given the circumstances, Jiraiya did good but don't make it seem that Jiraiya could take on all Six Pains". Pain literally said if Jiraiya knew his secrets he (Pain) would have easily lost. It was said so in the manga, anime, and most likely the Jirayia article of this wiki if my memory is correct. And no if Naruto took on all six paths with the Deva path having his powers he would have been obliterated. Kakuzu is no where near capable of beating Pain (just the Deva Path alone in the Storm 3). Kakuzu is under-rated but he can't beat Jiraiya. Jiriaya will probably get his ass kicked a little in the beginning but no way he'll lose.