Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26958911-20151010214426/@comment-28869806-20151025215652

Minato 87 wrote: LoneNinja wrote: @Bakumatsu although i see your point however it contradicts itself due the fact Kishi has specified. He put "sealing anything" in the description of the technique therefore anything that gets pierced by it is sealed away. However i don't know if the sword is capable of piercing through Susanoo. It would certainly be an awesome fight to watch a Susanoo Madara vs a Susanoo Itachi and tbh i like Itachi's chances cause of his quick thinking and tactical skills. He always found a way to victory. Madara as well, i consider them both the top dogs of the Uchiha. Although if anything can have enough force to pierce a Susanoo it'd be another Susanoo. Anyways back on topic. Jiraiya had to wait a long time to even summon Ma and Pa which is probably mentioned above in another post, without them, no Genjutsu and no Sage because Jiraiya always used them for Sage. The terrain is definitely important in this fight. If there is a possibility that Jiraiya can run away and hide long enough then that is a possibility, however in a clearing, I don't see Jiraiya evading Itachi's Genjutsu. Once he is distracted in Genjutsu i don't see him dodging Amaterasu. I honestly don't see Jiraiya winning this fight even though he is one of my favorite characters of all time. Itachi is just too over-stacked with abilities and has a higher advantage. I honestly don't even think the Genutsu of Ma and Pa would even work, its a limited technique that they can use and Itachi can reverse Genjutsu by using his sharingan to recognize the functions of the Genjutsu then reverse it back at the opponent. I don't even see Jiraiya summoning's of the giant toads helping him cause of Amaterasu. I know it is said that Itachi has low Chakra Reserves but Itachi during his fight with Sasuke showed tremendous reserves and although i want Jiraiya to win, i just don't see how. Sharingan 3 Sasuke could dodge few Amaterasu flames, SM Jiraiya is much faster than Sasuke, so I think he can dodge Amaterasu. I think Jiraiya has better chances than Itachi to win if he is in SM. Jiraiya will have a problem to go into the Sage Mode. Pre-SM Jiraiya is much weaker than Itachi and if Jiraiya want to go into the Sage Mode he can't use his hands. Sasuke ever since the beginning of Shippuden has been a speed demon, Jiraiya even in sage mode is not, in base form Jiraiya is very bulky, and while he is a lot faster in sage mode he's still nowhere near Sasuke's level of speed and as such wouldn't be capable of dodging Amaterasu seeing as even Sasuke wasn't able to fully dodge Amaterasu.