Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160405070243/@comment-734582-20160430101543

Ravenlot 27 wrote: Serously, there are times I think about all these discussions on Edo-Madara vs Edo Hashi topic being sheer jokes. Same here. Madara was under the seal yet he could still easily control Obito. He wasn't trying to escape the seal because he was using Obito's nice gesture to revive himself. He battled Hashirama to kill time. I mean, when Obito was doing the plan Madara just sat and waited until Hashirama was free to fight him. The moment he was revived he started to use Rinnegan powers, restrained Hashirama and Tobirama with the receivers and stole Hashirama's chakra. If he could do that, why did he wait until he was alive? "a ninja must see through deception".

As to Madara using Kurama, Madara had put him under summon, therefore Kurama was his summon. Discussions about Jiraiya and the Sannin involve summons, and i don't see people complain there. In fact, summons are integral to their style.

Lastly, Hashirama had more raw power than Madara, which you can define as "strength". But Madara with his Mangekyou has access to special techniques, which one can also see as strength. Tsunade could heal a village and keep them fighting well beyond their limit. That too, is strength. So it's true that Hashirama had greater strength than Madara. But Madara has many abilities of his own, and using the strongest Biju as an involuntary summon is within that power, therefore justified.