Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25075055-20140331114355/@comment-6794268-20140403200709

I don't deny I made an insult with "the bible said so" but it was the first "*plugs ears*" kind of ignoring thing that came to me. Should a better version come up, I'll use it. But it was not in any context a religious comparison, but the human behaviour exhibited in individuals who have no valid reasoning for their said behaviour. So you can make presumptions of my intelligence based on an analogy, that's up to you. But try to come up with an ignorant sect of people within a group that doesn't come across as offensive, and I'll gladly concede to picking the wrong one. Vegans? Offensive. Feminists? Offensive. Right-wing conservatives? Offensive. People against LGBT? Offensive. (Note: It would be absurd and frivolous to assume I am suggesting all of the above are ignorant. There are idiots everywhere. And @ TU3, that is not another jab at anyone)


 * Any different from talk-pages

Talk pages are very limited based on how they are used on this wikia. There also is no room to breath in them, quite frankly. And as I pointed out, there's not really a discussion in them, and it's very limited, especially with having less people in general. But having a place for people to go to discuss it, not only does it simply become more approachable to more people, but it's already there for everyone to see than having to go to a random talk page and find out what people are discussing that is directly contributing to that article. There's also nothing wrong with having a forum for people to discuss things generally related to Naruto. And given the articles themselves and talk pages are as strict as they are, a more casual place wouldn't be bad for the wikia. I know there are some topics we simply are not allowed to bring up in talkpages, as well as other things simply being shot down due to bias.


 * But isn't that what this discussion is? A discussion detailing that despite having a chatroom, it's not being used and how should we go about making it so?

The chatroom is a flawed concept and doesn't serve a fully utilized purpose. I already pointed out some issues, but I guess I will reiterate: A chatroom is time based. A person will not sit on it 24/7 to see what happens to be said and respond. A person will want to, if they have one, propose a question about whatever it is and expect an immediate reply in a chatroom. Maybe the question takes research, maybe there's no one on to answer it. Many any myriad of reasons as to why a chat system like that doesn't work. Sure, getting an increase of people joining it would appear to help, but the ultimate goal is: it won't. Why? Because of time. Time is precious. People, reiterating again, won't sit in the chat forever. People have lives. People play games. They go out. They have work. They have families. They have whatever the hell they want. There is so much more to do these days than sit in a chatroom like we used to when we and the internet were younger. And sure, people can leave the chat open. That's a perfectly valid reasoning. It seems to refute my entire premise, and in a way it does. But how many people will do that? A forum will allow many more people to be involved as well as at any hour of the day. A chat room will, again, only allow at very specified times. Bringing more people helps, but it doesn't address the problem because it only decreases/alleviates some of the burden.


 * Thus far of all the forum pages that have been created have all gone along the lines of "let's be Narutards together" — not an intellectual soundboard. That is your ideal for it, not anyone else's.

I cannot answer for that. And it's not exactly my ideal, either. If the forum was available, sure I'd use it. But as I said earlier, I don't care either way. But I do fail to see a certain side's argument, and me being me I like to argue.


 * Again, other websites exist and have existed long before the wikia abd guess what: Narutopedia had not suffered for it. Were we the be all end all for all things Naruto then by all means, but understand that we are not. Go elsewhere and if by chance you don't come back, no one will remember you. That may be sad but it's entirely true.

Given the nature of Wiki and Wikia in general, outside of the official publications by those involved with Naruto, the Wikia is the ultimate source. It is not only the most comprehensive but the most accurate. It has taken many painstaking years to make sure the information is presented in the best way possible. Even before this account, I made stuff many years ago. I just forgot the names I used.

If I come across as offensive, I apologize. It isn't the first time I've heard it, and it won't be the last. But I never intend on being offending.