User talk:X29

Hello X29, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Zaku Abumi page.

We do hope that you will stay for a long time. Enjoy your stay as we work to become the best Naruto info site out there. BELIEVE IT!

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Omnibender (Talk) 01:39, 2 September 2011

Re: Qoutes Policy
A better idea is for you to start a discussion on the talk page. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 11:31, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re: "we just prefer manga quotes to it"
Maybe I shouldn't say "we" but it's just something that's done here, there's no real policy that says we should use it, it's more of a wiki style I think.--Cerez365™ 13:29, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok.
 * Good luck with that.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 14:13, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just so you know, this wiki is not a drag, you're just acting like a child and not following the policies.--White Flash (talk)   15:03, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Your main argument for changing quotes is "most people watch the anime". Even if that's true, that's not really verifiable. Second, the text from the anime is exactly the same as the manga, save for filler arcs and very few instances that something is changed in the anime. The anime is Japanese as well. If what you meant is the English adaptation, that is also covered in policies, meaning we use translations from the original Japanese, not the Viz adaptation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:25, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Signature
You might want to take a look at the new Narutopedia:Signature policy.--Cerez365™ 18:17, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I bet. Unlike my "may" there are plenty of "musts" on the sig policy page. Just giving you a heads-up.--Cerez365™ 18:51, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re:"Re: Is why it's there."
Because my knowledge of haematology is limited, I'm not the best person to ask that question. Omnibender and Shounensuki seem a lot more knowledgeable in this field.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 12:27, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Which friend is that? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:39, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

User:ShounenSuki?--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 14:13, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Not too sure what questscan is (you might want to delete that from the google search I just did) but to search for users you should type in "User:personsname" Some people don't have userpages so you might want to search for them using "User talk". At least that's how I do it or use the broad search and select the box that says ○ User.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 14:23, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: As a haematologist
Well, I'm not a haematologist, but I do know that there are several others blood antigen systems. They're simply not as widely known outside of specific biological sciences and medical circles as the ABO and Rhesus systems are. I believe a few more are also tested when checking compatibility between organ donor and recipient in organ transplants, but even with those, there are several more that aren't really used. ABO and Rhesus are the most known because they're the most relevant to blood transfusion and the like. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:25, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * There could be several different types of AB blood, it all depends on which other systems you use. Using the Rh system, there can be AB+ and AB-. Add other blood systems, you get many other different AB blood types. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:01, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Not toe to toe?
No. Toe-to-toe means the opponents were evenly matched and neither gained the upper hand. Tobi never once put real pressure on Minato. It matters not that Minato was super smart, I don't see why you brought it up. The battle was quick AND easy. It took Minato one look at Tobi's method of attack to figure out how to decide the battle in all of 20 seconds. Skitts (talk) 15:18, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not stronger? Tobi's only method of attack was to ensnare his opponent and suck them away into his pocket dimension. Tobi is the one who lost because he was weaker. He's shown in no way that he's stronger than Minato. Tobi himself admitted that he has no real power at the 5 Kage Summit. Again, fighting 'toe-to-toe' means that neither opponent at any time had the upper hand, which wasn't true. All Minato did was check what Tobi's method of attack was, then the battle was over when he turned around to finish it. It wasn't even really a battle' just a skirmish. Skitts (talk) 19:09, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Several problems with your logic and reasoning. First of all, saying that because.he's who he is, he HAS to have some other attack method is a folly and incorrect. That is the only way he has attacked in the series, even in situations where another method would have been needed, such as against Konan and Minato. The fact that he showed NO consistent usage of other techniques until he gained the Rinnegan. Tobi still said that he was quite powerless, not just a sheel of what Madara was, hence why he relies on Space-Time Migration in the 1st place. And Edo Madara is considerably more powerful than Madara ever was in life according to Kabuto, not to mention he now has Wood Release, so you can't compare that to the 'shell' statement that Tobi made. Minato DID gain the upper hand by 1) Severely wounding Tobi, 2) Placing a Hiraishin jutsu formula on his back and 3) Removing his control of Kurama. In fact, he so gained the upper hand that Tobi was forced to retreat. There was no part in which the two were 'toe-to-toe'. Skitts (talk) 17:30, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wait wait wait. Minato gaining the upper hand has nothhing to do with him winning? What kind of (il)logic is this? Tobi never ONCE fought toe-to-toe. This is the problem with your argument. You're saying "toe-to-toe", which means they fought evenly, but that NEVER HAPPENED. Minato checked out Tobi's plan of attack and ended the fight swiftly in the next bout. That's all that happened. No fighting evenly was present at all. Skitts (talk) 16:35, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'd assume you have an issue with the phrase "hold his own" yes? I'll change it to something more neutral like "go up against"? If we were to argue about whether or not they fought on equal grounds or not, I don't think there'd be an end to it because it's a more opinion based thing. Is that all right with you? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:49, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. I tend to exit out the notification that tells you you've a message, intending to check it out later; causes me to forget I had a message; go figure. Anyway, there were a plethora of fallacies and inaccuracies in your message, so I'll go in order:


 * Half of the arsenal you posted of Tobi's were unusable for him back then, seeing as Clay Mines were given by Deidara, Tailed Beast Extraction works only on Jinchuriki and he didn't have a Rinnegan


 * You did not just say that. o.o Just because Tobi has ONE Space-time technique doea in no way imply he has anything else up his sleeve (naturally). That is baseless and in fact basically shown untrue given that against Konan he had to resort to Izanagi and against Minato, the moment he no longer had Kurama, he fled.

Again, what you aren't getting (apparently) is that the saying you used conveys that both opponents were evenly matched and neither ever had the upper hand, which isn't true. For example, in Choji's Chunnin Exam matxh against Dosu, Dosu ended the match directly after avoiding Choji's meat tank attack. Did Choji fight toe to toe' with Dosu? Heck no. When Minato (as I constantly point out) hit Tobi with a 3-stage attack, greatly damaging him, marking him and removing Kurama from his control, he gained the upper hand, which Tobi never did in any way. The battle was very short as well, so there was no time for them to have fought evenly anyway. This seems to have stemmed from you using a saying that didn't apply in this case because it didn't happen as you say. Skitts (talk) 03:35, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: One image to rule them all
Aye. Not my most favourite series but I do remember parts.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:05, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

...
Well, if you really think about it, it's not "is" on account Deidara is dead and gone. Tobi change his personality so it's more "was" than "is". - White Flash - (Talk) - 08:34, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you should ask others about this, since "Was" to me is like saying before or unless Tobi still accompanies a dead Deidara. - White Flash - (Talk) - 09:07, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Vandals
There's no point telling vandals to stop spamming, that's what they do. All you should do is revert their edits and then list them for blocking here. Communicating with vandals is pointless. --Speysider Talk Page 21:27, July 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your not really going to get admin attention by posting that kind of edit summary and many people will just assume you are talking to the vandals. They'll only do something about it if you actually go to their talk page and say "can you block X person please?" In this case, this is the best place to request people to be blocked. Also you should fix your signature as it has no link to your user talkpage, which I believe is a requirement. --Speysider Talk Page 21:37, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tone down?
This is inappropriate: But this site isn't for perverts such as you. Please avoid putting that in as it's a little demeaning and rude. Remember, there are young children who come here that don't need to read such words. --Speysider Talk Page 21:12, July 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not saying it's a cuss word, just saying that it would be advised to avoid using those kind of words. I used to use a lot of heavy curse words here but now I don't. --Speysider Talk Page 21:23, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vandal Sweep
What's that friend? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 18:15, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Because of the kind of editing I do here, I edit a great deal. If I were to use the email function I'd be barraged with an endless stream of emails which would kill my phone battery undoubtedly. So when I am here all I do is go through the edits either until I reach my last one or to the most recent one. If I don't do that, I trust the other editors to catch the vandalism.

Since we're talking, I'd like to point out that out Signature policy now dictates that you must have a link back to your talk page. You should see my face right now, it looks like this --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 18:25, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Its userpage, not talkpage. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 03:32, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, you haven't. The cumplosory thing in your signature is User:X29 and User talk:X29 is optional. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 04:33, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * You neednot have a link back to your talkpage. But you must have a link to your userpage in your sig. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 04:57, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * To intervene here, but he doesn't need a link back to his userpage since it's deleted, his sig can have a link back to his talkpage, also X29 I notice you're having troubles with your sig, so put this —X29 in your preference. . - White Flash - (Talk) - 06:16, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think its alright not to have a link to your userpage. But you can use —X29 (Talk) which will give —X29 (Talk) -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 12:44, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Salil for repeating what I said...and X29 very much dear :) - White Flash - (Talk) - 16:19, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine with me ;) -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 16:28, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * "There. I hope you can choke on it."


 * X29 that was totally uncalled for. Threatening people like that is not doing you any favours. --Speysider Talk Page 16:31, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry X29 but blow-up dolls do not count there we're even. - White Flash - (Talk) - 16:45, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Rules are there for a reason. If you think all these policies are a drag, why are you still here ? --Speysider Talk Page 18:41, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Your userpage
According to Userpage policy, you may not create a userpage to indicate it's "Under Construction". And why do you think the policies are "a drag" ? They are there for a reason :/ --Speysider Talk Page 18:56, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tsunade's pic
When editing the page, click the photo thing you see on the right → and just follow the stuff. Make sure it's in the section you want to add it and such. If anything i'll fix it for you.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 21:48, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Admin, Shmadmin
There will be no problem because there is none. Stop looking for problems that don't exist. If an issue arises, it will be dealt with. A word of advice: never undo an edit made by an admin as their decisions are absolute. --Speysider Talk Page 21:28, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Benihisago image
You want the suction to be represented? Because that's what I mean is unnecessary. Also, why'd you add a description to the image in the infobox o.O? --Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:33, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Meh. It's been sorted now.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:44, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

ms theory
Itachi crow's eye turned to 3 tomoe on the cooldown, indicating that not only the power can't be used again but also it won't be possible to change the tomoe to MS one.--Elveonora (talk) 18:23, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Itachi made it clear that the Mangekyou won't activate for a decade, dunno what translation have you read.--Elveonora (talk) 18:51, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

2 eyes, 2 possible targets at once :) I'm sure this was used on Yagura and Kurama, and there's possibly some 3rd victim. If he could use it now (strong genjutsu) he would have done such long ago. Like on Naruto or B, and if you say "it might not work" then at least on Kakashi or Guy. So if Tobi had such strong genjutsu to control a perfect host and a tailed beast, but has not been seen using such since then, that likely means he can't. And the only genjutsu technique with a time limit we know of is Shisui's. It could explain why he wanted the remaining eye that Danzo had in his possession. A decade is a long time, not to mention I have some other theory as well. --Elveonora (talk) 19:36, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Tobi controlled Yagura about 10 years before part I. and I don't believe Yagura was a Kage for long, due to his youthful appearance and I think Gaara is the youngest Kage in history, unless I'm wrong. Let's say that Tobi had control over Yagura for 2 years, making it appear that he has defected into Kiri right after he had failed the attack on Konoha, making both his eyes on more or less the same cooldown. With one being sacrificed for Izanagi, the remaining Sharingan should activate again soon. So if this is correct, you can buy me an ice cream "_"

I don't really have any other explanations for:
 * lack of wood release
 * mangekyou-like powers but no mangekyou seen
 * strong genjutsu used rarely but not recently
 * other shit

Unless you have some other theory. And again, this ain't about his identity, because I'm pretty sure that Tobi is Izuna (my bet on 101%) :)--Elveonora (talk) 20:53, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

fuck language, thanks for taking a time to read and discuss though :) also, ever heard of transplants?--Elveonora (talk) 07:22, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Databook and Madara/Tobi in manga stated that Izuna has died, not that he is dead :) Because we know, it's not like everyone stays dead in the manga.--Elveonora (talk) 17:02, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't in any way signify Izuna is dead. There were talking about what they have inherited from a dead person and stuff, but we will see. I don't see any other candidate than him. If the interview is real, then we should find out "soon" Who's your number #1 bet? But yeah, uhm.. this didn't start as a Tobi identity theory lol--Elveonora (talk) 17:52, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

So the Ten-Tails is trying to revive itself? O_O interesting. I will stop reading and leave the community if it's not Izuna "_" The sad thing is, the story is getting kinda simplistic now... all people care about is Tobi/Madara lol. I kinda miss Part I. and first half of Part II.--Elveonora (talk) 18:13, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

U serial? O_o to think that the God/demon of the whole naruto universe was a goof bag "_" But a solid theory indeed, that of mine is better though. Wait... so if Tobi is the Ten-Tails and the Moon Eye plan was originally Madara's, then would that mean that Edo Madara wants to become Tobi's jinchuriky? lol I don't think so, but a nice one dude.--Elveonora (talk) 18:47, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Lord Admin
Lol. You're lucky I think stuff like this is kewl ._." Someone called Tranclan would be Hashirama, he created the wiki. Dan would be like Tobirama, who gave it infrastructure and stuff.

As for Admins, you could just ask them, but, TheUltimate3 would be the First, then Jacce, Shounensuki, Snapper2, SimAnt and finally Omnibender. Just so you get it right v_v--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:31, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's right. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:34, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey you can see the order in User Rights Log. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 16:37, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe comparing the first one to Hashirama was bad. But this is what I meant.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:54, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

First?--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:56, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Here. -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (Talk to me) 00:52, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

But Dan's higher than an Admin though, so he'd be a Kage. Charitwo(sp?) and the others that have been given rights is just part of the cross-wiki task force, they don't have anything to do with the running of the wiki. Snaps is here, when he wants to be, even if he doesn't log in. Therefore the order I gave are the most appropriate titles--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:53, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Old discussion, but here's an interesting tidbit. At one point we did map groups to ranks: Also, TranClan made a total of 3 edits to the wiki (well 4 if you count a single deleted edit, then again one of those edits was to my talkpage)... ;) wouldn't he be more like Madara? ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 14:59, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Bureaucrat -> Kage
 * Sysop -> Jonin
 * Rollback -> Jokubetsu Jonin
 * Autoconfirmed -> Chunin
 * User -> Genin
 * Anon -> Academy student


 * I don't really know if creator, founder, or sage really applies... He made a request, staff setup the wiki, then he made 4 edits and disappeared. And none of those were particularly special edits at all. He didn't even create a single article. Rather than "the" sage that created the universe that's more like the sage that proclaimed "I shall create life", another sage jumped in and actually created life, then the first sage said thanks and was absorbed into the ether. Having one Kage is fine if you consider the wiki like a village. There's only one Kage till they retire... ;) and I'm still alive. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 16:29, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really. Back then all it took to "create" a wiki was to fill out a page on the wiki that once existed at requests.wikia.com. After doing that staff would push a few buttons and a brand new empty wiki would be created. It's something trivial to do, and even more trivial now. TranClan filled out that page. Then created nothing on the wiki. Basically the wiki died right after it was founded. Then since the wiki already existed (even though it was pretty much entirely empty) instead of creating a new one I adopted it, becoming the wiki's founder/re-founder. And then I laid out the foundation for the wiki. Nothing that TranClan did really required him. The wiki would easily still exist as-is even if TranClan never showed up on Wikia. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 20:58, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a pretty dim view of what it actually takes to found a wiki. Founding a involves creating the initial content, attracting the first editors, and editing and helping the wiki until it reaches that critical mass where the community becomes self-sustaining. Quite frankly if you try to strip away everything involved in founding a wiki down to what TranClan did... then you've got enough ratonale to call the staff members the "founders" of the wiki. Since filling out a form anyone could fill out and accepting that form are the same level of trivial. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 16:44, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re: without fighting Shino grumblegrumblegrumble
Aye, I did. I all but forgot he was reincarnated. What a waste since I really wanted to know more about him etc, Fū too.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:28, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ty for fix.--Aeonophic (talk) 23:16, August 26, 2012 (UTC)Aeonophic

Re: A very unneccessary page
If you feel that its unnecessary, just place on the top of the page. 05:08, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Corpse Soil
I'm too busy hunting images to try and verify it right now, so I'm going to advocate something we normally don't do around here. In place of cold hard facts, let's just ask, how is it not? You murder a bunch of people then use Earth Release to reanimate their corpses as zombie soldiers. Even Impure World Reincarnation at least restores he mind of the dead and that's also forbidden, this may as well be mutilating the bodies. There is virtually no way in any rational way that this thing could of avoided being labeled a forbidden technique. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 08:12, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Truly, it is a great thing to know that logic has no place here. But if it'll make you happy, I've started searching for the statement of its status now. I'll get back to you with the results. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 10:22, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Rationale and License Metadata
and templates are required to exist on ANY images if they are to be used in articles. Do not add images that do not have both these templates on them as they are illegal without the fair use data. In regards to the edit summary on the page you keep adding an illegal image to, the warning would've been a policy reminder. --Speysider Talk Page 13:30, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fuinjutsu List
Excuse me X29, but the reason I put up the 2nd Fuinjutsu list is that the current one is broken and I figured people would like to get to a list quickly until the original is fixed.

--YoukoTaichou (talk) 22:12, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Meh, a lot of people seem to not have noticed. You'd think they'd realize that a second list was added for a reason. And not just to be an ass or something. The same thing's going on with all of the 'List of' areas. Hope they get that fixed soon.

--YoukoTaichou (talk) 02:39, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Continuing Tsunade's pic
It's not as pretty as the game image but yes, it should do.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:15, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why, but I like number three a lot (must be the hands). I'm still waiting to see what people say about the forum post though, before the initiative starts.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 20:46, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Um..... I don't know how to title it, since he made it, not me, X29
ya need to stop cutting out my contributions, they're legitimate and fairly accurate, i make them as I watch/rewatch and read the series so I know they're solid. 75.172.178.82 (talk) 08:38, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

First of all, make a section for this message 'fore you send it. Second of all, your edits are very wrong. --X29 08:42, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Recent edits
Be my guest, I tend not to arbitrarily make stuff up and add it to articles. As for Kakashi's changes, check his talk page, the reason is there.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:56, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

In fact, just to make it easier for you here is what his article says per-Gottheim's translations- Main text Ibiki plays an important part in the extracting of information, as he interrogates suspects and prisoners of war. From the psychological pressure of threats to the physical pain of torture, he is adept in a large array of methods. Methods he knows how to apply judiciously. He's a man whose intellectual honesty one would never guess behind his heavily scarred appearance. Captions -I'll use my own methods and make you squeal*! -Konoha's enforcer. He knows hardship better than most! Picture comment -He's the best in Konoha, and a great many shinobi rely on his experience and technique, starting with Jiraiya. Ninja Registration Number: 010913 Date of birth: Mar 20 (31 y-o; Pisces) Height: 193.5 cm Height: 88 kg Blood type A Personality: persevering, sadistic Favorite word: "Truth". 98.26.246.74 (talk) 17:03, November 10, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

...... Mate, Cerez here sent me there already. --X29 17:06, November 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Talk:Kakashi Hatake.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:16, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Shizuka&Hotaru
Okay seriously, do you still believe girls have koodies or what? There was no problem with how it's written, but somehow in your little head you think it's "perverted". It's not. We're supposed to have a full description of their appearances, you need have a solid grasp on that. Now, I'm going to restore what you removed in the first place. If you still have a problem with how it's written. Oh well. If your going to start a revert war again, then by all means go right head. Be aware, you remove this and this for an invalid reason, so quite frankly you were the one who started the revert war. I'll be more than willing to contact the admins and have their business here all because you have the mind of a nine year old.--White Flash (Contact) 04:06, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Edits on Shizuka and Hotaru
I don't really have an issue with people mentioning large-busted characters. I do have an issue with speaking about a characters "slender yet curvaceous frames" which are hardly ever noticeable because they aren't real people and sounds really perversed.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 15:26, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

You really need to learn about compromise.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 16:01, November 12, 2012 (UTC)