Talk:Han

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Dear fellow Narutards:

I am quite pleased with the level of information, detail and accuracy on this wiki. However, I ask that we really press the armor angle of this character. He is clearly wearing samurai armor, which raises many questions (what kind of samurai armor? why is a ninja wearing samurai armor?) which we quite quickly answer and prevent uneducated fan speculation.

Also, what's that smoking thing on his back? Do we know, or are we just guessing?

99.245.138.11 14:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * We know absolutely nothing about this character, except what we can see in that one image of him.
 * About his armour, it's not specifically samurai armour. He's wearing Japanese-style armour which was indeed worn by Samurai in battle, but was also worn by many other classes of warriors and soldiers. If he was supposed to be a samurai, he would have the samurai's characteristic two swords and/or a kabuto helmet (although even this helmet wasn't unique to samurai). Also, he isn't the only ninja to wear armour. The Akimichi-clan, the first two Hokage, Madara Uchiha, and most, if not all, ninja of the latter's generation wore armour as well. --ShounenSuki 14:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Hrm, good point.

Anything on the smoking thing on his back then?

His tailed symbol (which dont seem to be featured on this wiki for some reason) are of white squigly lines, that and the smoke on his back lead me to believe that he is a master of Smoke or Steam or some kind of mist element. Taking to account that he is heavily 'armoured', I believe he utilises the 'Flight' element, which mixes wind and fire chakra to create hot air which, I'm just speculating, using the thing on his back allows him to fly.


 * What's a "tailed symbol"?
 * Any way, speculation isn't allowed. --ShounenSuki (talk 19:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * a "tailed symbol" i'm assuming are influnces shown on the jinchiriki of their beasr eg naruto's whiskers, dark marks around Gaara's eyes--Cerez365 (talk) 10:03, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

I want to know how someone as strong as Han was defeated at an earlier rate than the other Jinchuriki. Does anyone know who beat him in the first place? 74.99.77.194 (talk) 20:04, December 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 20:11, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

the 5 tails
i think that thing on the 5 tails jinchuriki's back,givs him abilities similar 2 gara,& that white chakra...did anyone notice it...probaly protects him,like garas' sand,& his abilities probaly match the 5 tails(gobi)article i read,meaning he's a master of all 5 elements,with each tail,representing an element. 65.189.150.66 00:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)65.189.150.66 00:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Many articals and videos say that the 5 tails is a Cat Dingo. The five tails meaning an elemant. But its really anoying me. Like, how in the world are people getting that the four tailed is a phenox? Or the five tailed a cat? The six tailed a flying Wolf? And the seven tailed a flyin beaver badger that is somehow very cunning, eat they say its huge and has wings???? Its really wierd!

where did those ideas come from anyway? --Caseather (talk) 22:17, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Smoking pot?
Idiot.....

Well, anyways, nothing on the smoking pot on his back has come up yet, so unless you all know something I don't, speculation is the best we can hit here.

Um actually the thing on his back is a furnace. It allows him to infuse chakra into either the steam or smoke or whatever comes out. Like gaara infusing chakra with sand. And it's not a kekkei genkai cause he just gets the ability to infuse chakra with steam from th five tails. It's like an unique trait so that he can use steam based techniques.

my speculations shot down
one...whose the idiot the guy above me speaks of???...me? I'm the one who started the section 2 above me bout my 5 tailed oppinion,& ppl critisized it...& for the recorred dude,the pheonix(4-tails)came up because of the lava release,from roshi,5-7,i dont kno where u herd tht,i thought 5 was a dog(maybe dingo),6 a liger,& 7 a griffin...but tht's my oppinion...but i realy dont get why there's speculation sections on 4-7,atleast til they finaly show up...i realy dont....65.189.150.66 (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC)anyonomus65.189.150.66 (talk) 22:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC) well,at least the tailed beasts have been discovered,but since there identity's shocked every narutard out there,there abilities are more questionable than a ever...many(even me)thought this 5-tailed beast would be a dog,each tail standing for 1/5 elements...so i guess the best thing to do,iz find out wat hosts,5-7,can realy do...

The freaking "legend" is fake, why are so many people ignorant to this? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

thing on back
I think its furnace that creates steam for him to use

Mabey its lava his beast does have lava techniques--TheBlueBlur (talk) 18:20, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Han's beast is the Five-Tails, the Four-Tails is the one with lava techniques. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:24, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Steam realese
if his kekang gankki is steam realese then should his nature type be fire and water. Im editing it as i speak

First of all, there's no such thing as Steam Release, the only thing mentioned was stream related jutsu, it could very well be a form of Water Release, or simply a hiden jutsu that has nothing to do with Water Release and kekkei genkai, nothing concrete about calling it a kekkei genkai, nor about it being a mix of water and fire chakra. It's pure speculation, and as such, it's not to be listed like that, the only thing that is confirmed is that he uses steam related jutsu, and that's the only thing that stays until Kishimoto gives more information. Same thing applies for Utakata. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:52, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

well stem realese is just a sepeculation but the steam discribid here may be the boil realese(futton).if not boil is proved to be water and fire, and steam may be a wrong translatioon so can any one put here that the "steam" part of the artbook and if there is a stem realese wahat would be it's name --Welimer2 (talk) 04:44, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Boil Release doesn't require a steam armor. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:07, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Steam is from the Tailed Beast
Since we have found out that Mizukage's Boil Release is made of fire and water, this can't be possibly be an advanced nature. Therefore, the steam nature is from his tailed beast, the 5 Tailed Dolphin Horse--Moiz1224 (talk) 04:58, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Or it's simply hot water, coming from the stove on Han's back.--ShounenSuki (talk 12:05, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * It can also be hijutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 14:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu Vandalism
For some reason under jutsu, Steam-based Ninjutsu appears 3-times. I tried fixing this but I can't. Will someone do this for me?Saimaroimaru (talk)
 * It's not vandalism, it's some sort of bug. Steam-based Ninjutsu also appears tree times in the jutsu category. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 11:55, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Jutsu
Steam release is listed three times under his jutsu, I have no idea how to edit that, can someone do it? kkthx
 * First of all, not steam release, steam isn't a nature. Second, it shows three times because of a bug no one can figure out how to handle. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:54, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * One solution is to delete the steam page. ~SnapperTo 03:27, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * But then we wouldn't have the page anymore. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Valid point. But it's not as though there is much to say about it. ~SnapperTo 04:17, April 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly. - S im A nt 18:32, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

A pity
As long as no filler comes up for him I think everything is simply speculations and it is a pity because I get the feeling that people find him a very interesting character.

deidara said that???
is there any proof of deidara saying han was caught as one of the first jins?78.23.240.235 (talk) 13:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

In the anime, because Utakata was the seventh one to be caught, it means Han and Fū were the first ones to be captured. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:11, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't we mention that we're not completely certain it was Han who was caught as one of the first? After all, the jinchūriki came back and Kishimoto-sensei might decide to go against the anime. Not to mention the possibility of Deidara simply lying to make Naruto upset. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a "in the anime" qualifier, so I think that particular base is covered for the moment. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:28, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the intro, yes, but not in the personality section. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:34, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Steam armor
Since he did technically debut in chapter 515, so did his steam armor. Should there be an article for it? We do have an official name for it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:05, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why do we list his début as chapter 515 again? —ShounenSuki (talk 15:39, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * No idea. All the former jinchūriki were given manga chapter debuts when they first appeared, even though we knew about them from the fanbook. I think it was done to show the point they got into the plot. Your guess is as good as mine. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:58, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * We should really have a proper definition for the débuts... Something like: "The début of a character is the very first time said character is shown in the flesh, whether alive or dead, flashback or otherwise. As long as a character is shown as the character and not merely mentioned or represented (as with a photograph of the character), it's their début."
 * As for the steam armour, it seems like it's long overdue for an article. We should have had one a long time ago. —ShounenSuki (talk 16:10, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

anime introduction
In the short scene he is introduced in the anime, he shows two traits. ONE he has quite the speed TWO no matter how he moves, he seemingly keeps his right hand within his robes. Should we note this in the actual article or dismiss it as a random anime filler element??? --Gojita (talk) 01:28, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Gojita


 * You saw it didn't you? Put it in.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 01:40, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Red kasa
I dont know, but by me it seems his kasa is also a part of his Steam Armour. Not that it is of the same color like the armour, also it has the same lines like the armour. And, if he wears such heavy armour and still is able to move so fast, why he will cover his head with a normal hat? :) I think the kasa should be included into the Steam Armour thing. VolteMetalic (talk) 19:50, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think we should assume. I checked both articles and what's there is good enough for now. There are no specifics on the steam armour and his article mentions the kasa.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 20:06, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it mentions it, but not as part of the armour.VolteMetalic (talk) 20:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Steam Use
In chapter 564 he uses his steam generator (not sure what it is) after punching Naruto. My question is that is it to early to say the steam might strengthen him since Naruto was able to block his punch on the page before but then it showed him using his steam and Naruto commenting on his strength. Joshbl56 04:38, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I've already mentioned it on the Steam Armour page.--Deva 27 04:39, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Could it be that he used some sort of Taijutsu??? If so (Steam Punch or anything else...), please add it...--Omojuze (talk) 14:41, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

To Omojuze, I don't think it is a form of taijutsu, more like powering it up.

Also, is it to early to add Steam-Based Ninjutsu under his abilities? Joshbl56 22:15, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why don't add a "Steam Enchantment Technique", because he powers up his punches and kicks. That's probably a jutsu, just unnamed similiar to Yugito's Claw Creation Technique. Agree with me?--Omojuze (talk) 15:34, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well? Anyone agree?--Omojuze (talk) 16:15, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

i do.98.26.241.163 (talk) 16:17, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure about creating that page, because we already have the Steam Armour article, and we might have a case for recreating an old article, which I believe had terms used in the actual artbook. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:09, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

SBN revisited
Considering that we already saw one use of his steam, and that more is likely on its way, I think we will need the page on "steam based ninjutsu" in the foreseeable future. Any ideas if that would still create triplicate/duplicate entries in infoboxes? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not too sure what you mean. But "we won't know unless we try?" or something like that O.o?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 01:51, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that the page will be required, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea recreating it, at least with that exact name, due to the bug that created duplicates. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:01, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it's required as well. As long as the duplication isn't something that affects the wikia too adversely but is more of a slight annoyance then I say give it a shot.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 01:15, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Steam-based ninjutsu
Since we have seen enouph of the steam ninjutsu in the anime and manga shouldn't we make a page about it?just thinking....--Charmanking2198 (talk) 10:01, December 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * What did you see in the anime? And what exactly is "enough" in the manga because I've only seen it twice.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 12:45, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think a page is necessary. Steam based ninjutsu doesn't seem like the name of a type of ninjutsu, that's just what it is. All we have seen so far is steam enhanced taijutsu, which is all covered on the steam armor article. That isn't enough for a page in my opinion.--Deva 27 12:50, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Malice
Couldn't we add that Naruto was able to " Sense his Malice from a mile away", this is a good show of personality imo. And even though it is possibly just from it being Tobi's Edo Tensei or Six Paths of Pain, its still worth being mentioned. Look Skarrj (talk) 16:34, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't really think this is a display of his personality, since he's being directly controlled by Tobi. In an unrelated question, why all the quotes and bold and link to free dictionary? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:53, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure that was Tobi's since as long as they've been shown, they haven't displayed any real personality. Skitts (talk) 16:57, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Han or Handa
It might be because I'm using Mangahere.com (usually I use Mangastream.com, but that's not loading up) but is his full name Handa, or is that a translation error? --Demon of the Sand ( Talk ) ( Contribs ) 02:49, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * His name is "Han". Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:52, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * The "da" is something that usually goes at the end of sentences. I'm sure if in all though. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:10, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Image
Anyone can say me from where is this image in " Anime " side?177.17.64.74 (talk) 06:40, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Anime image is from Episode 261. - White Flash - (Talk) - 06:52, July 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I require a picture of him when he was alive. In particular the one where he was when the Ten-Tails was revealed.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 22:55, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think Han has yet to have one of those. Might have to wait until the whole tailed beast/host get together to get one.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 03:50, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * But all the jinchuriki were revealed when Tobi was talking about the Ten-Tails. The same episode we got a picture of Fu if I remember correctly. I know it exists I just have no means of getting it.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 10:30, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah but in le anime. Han was running through the forest like a wild stallion. He wasn't stationary. So we got this '~' and went with no.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:47, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah that just screws all kinds of things up. smh. I don't like the picture of corpse!Han in the infobox.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 11:41, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * We could either let it alone and wait until a better image of him is available. It's not like I ever switch to the anime image either way ( '-') --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:01, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have the feeling we'll only get a good anime image of him when we get to Naruto learning their names. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:33, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

In the image he has two sharingan instead of sharingan and rinnegan ?--Salamancc (talk) 20:37, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * 0_0 no, those are ordinary eyes, he has them red just as mine are blue--Elveonora (talk) 21:07, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, he has two normal eyes instead of sharingan and rinnegan. His normal eyes in Edo Tensei havent shown.--Salamancc (talk) 20:50, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Five Mountain Jump
Im just curious, why is the article for Hans Ougi (Ultimate Jutsu) from Storm 3, 5-Mountain Jump repeatedly deleted? Its name is shown in game, and we have plenty of other game only jutsus on here; including Han's fellow Jinchuriki's.--RexGodwin (talk) 18:45, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Because we already had one for it. However, it had a hyphen between the first two words, because we first got the name from an English subbed trailer for the game. It's been moved to the hyphenless version, as shown in the game. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:47, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Height
Where was this info gotten?--Rikudo Sennin 47 (talk) 18:34, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * The databooks. --Speysider Talk Page 18:40, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Except that he was never mentioned in any of the databooks. Seelentau 愛議 18:54, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * We got several hight info's from Settei. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:00, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't we reference those so that it's clear it comes from an alternative source? --Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 19:04, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * He is the tallest character then?--Elveonora (talk) 19:15, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Those settei(s) come from Studio Pierrot's character design department as Jacce said, @Cerez: It's difficult to do that because some bugs appear there if we do that like Dokku's infobox for example. @Elveonora: Sounds like that. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a553/anaspet06/Shakhmootssign_zps2a261e68.png (Contact) 19:17, August 15, 2013 (UTC)