Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25096344-20160709050959/@comment-24824859-20160720215925

@8Gates So you continue to deliberately ignore context to support your flimsy claims? Shows that your claims hold no ground Whether or not the explosion happened on the air or land means nothing when it comes to comparing the sizes of the explosions.

If the explosion happened on land, it would've created a crater proportional to the size of the ball. That's it. The size of an explosion does not always determine its power. Otherwise a stadium-wide flash bang is more powerful than a single C4 And there isn't anything preventing Hashirama from retaliating either.

He claps his hand and summons any of his Mokuton creatures, making the supposed counters that you suggest irrelevant. Uh yeah there is: the sever discrepancy in pretty much everything between Sasuke and Hashirama. Hashirama won't be casting any jutsus if he's being paralyzed, burning to death, getting restrained, or getting cut in half Both being complimented by Madara under different circumstances doesn't make their speed equal.

Sasuke was easily dodged by blind Madara when he actually bothered to dodge in cqc.

8th Gate Gai's speed portrayal against Madara is>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke's.

Random uses of Amenotejikara aren't even more effective than Kurotsuchi's surprise attack much less at a level where it can overwhelm a Hiraishin user. It completely makes them on par with each other. What does a weaker Sasuke have to do with any of this? None of Sasuke's attacks were dodged, blocked, or parried unlike Guy's. Sasuke who is on par with Guy in terms of speed + Ameno clearly trumps Guy's overall speed Yet Minato and Tobirama were overwhelmed by much lower-level attacks. Juubito, before he completely had the Juubi's power under control, was easily able to blitz Hashirama and Tobirama. Minato got one of his arm cut off by Juubito and the latter would of blew him up if it wasn't for Tobirama. Sasuke easily blitzes Tobirama and Minato. Not to mention, again and again, that he nearly caught SPSM Naruto off-guard. You're the one who took the scene out of context.

Sasuke was absolutely serious against Shin and he wanted him captured. Not wanting to kill Shin doesn't magically restrict Sasuke's speed. So Sasuke just shooting a fireball and switching places means he was going all out? Don't be a hypocrite The context of that situation is Naruto wanting to capture Shin.

-Naruto stated that he wanted Shin captured.

-Naruto tried to capture him.

-He failed.

Not really sure how you're claiming that Naruto didn't move when he shot out a chakra arm.

Naruto couldn't even land a hit on Madara during their fight while Gai ragdolled him.

Bijudama Rasenshuriken doesn't have the destructive capacity to do any damage to the statue since it's explosion is dwarfed by one that Shinsuusenju already tanked. How much do I have to keep repeating myself? And your blatantly ignoring the part where he didn't move AT ALL. So what if he said that he wanted to capture Shin? That doesn't mean he would go all out in order to accomplish his goal. Heck, he even got Shin to surrender, just by staring him in the eye. Naruto couldn't land a hit on Madara? Are you sure you have read the manga or watched the anime? The fourth thing Naruto did, after his "revival", was throw a giant-ass Sage Art: Lava Release Rasenshuriken, which bisected Madara and cut the trunk of the Shinju TTJ-Madara's CT easily dwarfs Shinsuusenju. Heck, the only reason why the statue remain intact after the explosion with Madara and Kurama was because the thousand of arms on its back were countering Madara's Evil Disturbance Waltz spam, which destroyed all of them. TBB Rasenshuriken destroys a large portion of Shinsuusenju. All of your arguments have been rendered moot