Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-32624156-20170721153715/@comment-24824859-20170728210612

Ravenlot 27 wrote: C`mon, the latter part is already an exuse. He said "power" in both cases, no reason to believe these weren't one and the same "power". For example, his words for Sasuke during the meeting in subconsciousness were something like "This time, my power will also belong to you, Indra's reincarnate". As for the first part: It still doesn't mean that the powers are the same. Where did he say that? NOTE: The following scenes all took place in chapter 670 NOTE: Hagoromo died due to extracting the Ten-Tails' chakra from himself and sealing the Gedo Mazo in the moon
 * Hagoromo mentioned Indra and Asura matching each other naturally during his own lifetime, he made no mention about the balance of their strengh after Asura becoming the successor and after his, Hagoromo's death. I mean, these two and their reincarnates weren't necessary equal all the time, even naturally, with Hashi/Madara being the prime example of one reincarnate appearing superior to the other one (i.e. Hashi > Madara), though roughly on the same level.
 * Agreed, but it doesn't exclude the possibility of Hagoromo giving Asura power as well.
 * It's not like Hagoromo is above using power at all, especially if it's necessary, like it was in case of Naruto/Sasuke. Otherwise, he wouldn't have given them powers either. Plus, Hagoromo was sure that even a great power wouldn't ever corrupt Naruto, which opens the possibility of him having the same opinion on Asura in the past.
 * He still made no mention of giving Asura actual power.
 * 1.)He tells Naruto how his sons started out (the superior older brother was Indra and the flunky useless dropout brother Asura).
 * 2.) Next, he described the paths that his sons took ([Referring to Indra] He was touted as a genius. He did everything with his own power and understood that his power was special and different from those around him. He also came to believe taht with power anything was possible. [Referring to Asura] He couldn't do anything by himself. To achieve the same strength as his brother, he needed huge amounts of his own effort, along with the cooperation of those around him. And soon, through harsh training, the chakra inside his body bloomed and he found power on the same level as his brother. He also understood that everyone working together to help him is what made him strong. He came to understand what it meant to care for others and also realized that with love, anything was possible).
 * 3.) After that, he went to describe what he due to being inspired by Asura (I divided up the power of the Ten-Tails that was inside and gave names to its parts.I believed that the bonds of cooperation were where true power lay...And I also made Asura the leader of Ninshuu so that he could guide everyone
 * 4.) After describing what he did, he talked about the start of the feud between his sons and how they still continue even after they died (Indra would not accept that and that was the very moment this long war began. When their bodies were destroyed, the chakra they had built up didn't disappear, but was reborn through the ages...time and time again) Hagoromo stated, not once, but twice, that his sons were equal throughout their lifetimes. He didn't say that he gave Asura actual power instead, he mentioned how the chakra that they both built up moved on. Hashirama was constantly portrayed to be superior than Madara, even Madara admitted his inferiority to the man on multiple occasions. Not to mention, Hashirama killed Madara in their final battle (while they were alive). This is unlike how Asura and Indra killed each other in their battle. Hashirama > Madara, while Asura = Indra.
 * Yes it does as Hagoromo doesn't leave out any details on the information he gathered
 * But, what would be the reason to give Asura actual power? It's surely not for Ninshuu as Asura already learned the value of cooperation and love. It's sure not to stop a world-ending threat as there wasn't an individual who became the TTJ and Hagoromo wasn't even aware of BZ's machinations to revive Kaguya. Not to mention, Hagoromo only began to realize a possibility of someone not being corrupted by power after seeing Naruto