Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180716193648/@comment-9782468-20180718172224

@Rachin you can't copy speed. I've seen you say that a couple times, but it's not possible to copy speed. You can only copy what you're physically capable of doing. That's why there was so much training involved.

And Guy said that one of the components of Chidori was the absolute speed of the strike. No, Sasuke needed that speed to use Chidori properly. Otherwise, Sasuke could have just used a slower Chidori to cut through the sand since it's strong against Gaara's sand. Part of Chidori is how fast you strike. And Kakashi would have no place training Sasuke to that speed if he himself was not capable of moving that speed.

Kakashi did lose against Zabuza. Yeah, he said it himself; he hadn't faced an opponent like that in a long time, and he didn't take the fight seriously enough. And we all saw exactly what happened as soon as Kakashi got serious. He absolutely wrecked Zabuza. Both the first time and the fight on the bridge. He was careless the first time and lost fair and square. But as soon as he fought Zabuza seriously, Zabuza didn't have a chance.