User talk:AMTNinja

Delicate Illness Extraction Technique
Could you please answer my question here? and stop changing Sakura's Part 2 height? --ShounenSuki 00:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Images
AMTNinja, please do not use leafninja.com as a source for your images. Please read over our image policy as most of the images you have been uploaded have been tagged for deletion. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 9, 2008 @ 02:39 (UTC)

AMTNinja, please stop revert waring. We've had this issue in the past with Medical Ninjutsu: Strong Beam. No-one has ever provided actual citation beyond speculation that Sakura can use that jutsu, thus it should not be added unless you can provide proper citation. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 13, 2008 @ 23:02 (UTC)

hey... can you add sakura blizzard technique to?... thanks a lot!--Yoyipop

Jacce always removes those techniques

Yeah, i mean why get rid of the first and only jutsu of Sakura's in her list of Jutsu. She deserves it! She's cool! --AMTNinja 04:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sakura
AMTNinja, please stop revert warring. The name we go by is Konoha 11, not Hidden Leaf 11, please stop changing the name against community consensus. As well Mystical palm is a generic medical ninja jutsu, and Sakura only uses Strong beam in a game, so both of those jutsu are not listed in the infobox. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 04:55 (UTC)

ok, well u can't use "we" unless everyone agrees! besides, I made that freaking trivia and i don't think it's a big deal if its Hidden Leaf 11 or Konoha 11. And seriously, If a person uses the jutsu just keep the freaking jutsu in there info box, geez! If they've used in games or watever, keep it in, wat does it matter! It gives Naruto viewers the info they want and need! --AMTNinja 05:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I use "we" because it was decided by community consensus that the wiki would use "Konoha" rather than "Hidden Leaf", if you want to change it to something else, then you'll have to find reasonable rationales to counter the previous ones and engage the community in a new discussion.
 * The Jutsu list in the infoboxes are not meant to be exhaustive lists, they are only supposed to list a small subset of the jutsu that the character can use (canon jutsu, which the character actively uses or is unique to them). All other jutsu will be listed in an alternate location automatically in the future. If we were to list every jutsu a character could possibly know inside of infoboxes, then Infoboxes could easily end up longer than an entire article for some characters. That is not useful to readers. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 05:10 (UTC)

Albeit, in Sakura's case at least, we know she can use mystical palm and it's been shown several times and if your going to get rid of the jutsu from the games, ur gonna have to delete all the ohter artciles and pages with jutsu that came from games. And while ur at it, u might as well just delete everything regarding to the games as well, if they're not so important.
 * Listing a game jutsu inside of an infobox has no correlation to jutsu articles. We still put up articles on game jutsu on the wiki, we just don't bloat the infoboxes with all the jutsu that the games create. If you see any infoboxes with game only jutsu, feel free to remove the game only jutsu. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 20, 2008 @ 05:29 (UTC)

Well, thanks, but I don't really wanna take the time to do all that. However, I did delete the jutsu listed in infoboxes that we have not seen the selected article character actually use! Like u said...

Killer Bee
Could you please stop calling Killer Bee the "first African American character in Naruto"? He isn't African American. --ShounenSuki 23:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Killer Bee isn't African American. Stop saying he is. He isn't even the first black character. --ShounenSuki 23:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you just ignoring me or something? --ShounenSuki 23:14, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

u r blind?!? wat! I suppose u think Killer Bee is white huh! Look, he has been stated as of African American descent and has been shown as such despite him appearing on a japanese show! and please tell me who the first one is? --AMTNinja 23:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * To be African American, you have to live in America (usually the USA) and be of African decent. Killer Bee is neither, since there are no Africa and America in the Naruto world.
 * Killer Bee is obviously black. He isn't the first character that can be considered black, though. That honour would belong to Kidomaru. --ShounenSuki 23:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

well if u knew any better about race, u'd know that the polite way to say black is african american! I figured if i used that, that some african american members here wudnt get offended, thank you very much!!! and please, tell when and where kidomaru HAS EVER been named or called black, despite him almost looking like it, considering he's of lighter skin! --AMTNinja 23:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that if you called a Zimbabwean or Mozambican "African American," they'd be heavily insulted. The same goes for black people living in e.g. the Netherlands or the United Kingdom. "African American" only refers to people of African decent living in America.
 * Kidōmaru is as black as many of the real-life black people I know. Sure, his skin could be darker, but that's where opinion comes into the matter. It all comes down to the point that it's useless to apply real-life races to characters from an entirely different world. --ShounenSuki 23:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, if u have a better word other than "Black" or "African American", please tell me, and btw ur basing kidomaru only by the way he looks, and if a person is a lighter skin color of black then its most likey becuz they're not full black, or black at all, plus u can't compare him to ppl only YOU know, alright? but all in all, I feel that that trivia statement shud stay, but with slight revision.


 * I don't see what's wrong with "black," really. As far as I know, it's still the term used most often worldwide.
 * Anyway, the trivia statement should go, since it's too subjective. --ShounenSuki 23:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

well there are some ppl who are black and like to be referred to as african american or something else. Black is to direct and blunt! and I think it shud stay, so it shows a little ethnic variety that goes on in Naruto. --AMTNinja 23:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, and those people are likely all inhabitants of the USA, which is about the only place in the world where "black" is considered derogatory. In the rest of the world, it's just about neutral and the most common term to refer to dark-skinned people.
 * I also checked Kidōmaru's skin in the manga (on the cover of volume 24) and he's almost as black as Killer Bee. There's barely any difference. --ShounenSuki 23:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Look, no matter wat u say, there are ppl who find black derogatory, and some of those ppl, as u stated, r probably from the US, and might be members here, like me! So, i'd rather we not use black, unless desribing an actual color of an object or something!
 * in the manga maybe, but in the anime he's light-skinned! --AMTNinja 00:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Then those people are in bad luck, because "black" is the standard term. Would you rather use negro? negroid? nigger? There is no other, more positive term. World-wide, the term "black" is considered neutral. Just because a few people from a single country think otherwise shouldn't make us use another term. Certainly not if that term is plainly wrong.
 * The fact that Kidōmaru is as black as Killer Bee in the manga means the trivia is false. Kishimoto Masashi, the creator of the series, decided that both are equally black. That the anime made Kidōmaru lighter isn't important. (they could easily do the same to Killer Bee, if he hasn't shown up in the anime yet). The fact that even Kidōmaru's anime skin colour can be considered black means that the trivia doesn't even apply to just the anime. It shouldn't be in the article. --ShounenSuki 00:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

well, wheres this state that masashi said they were both equally black! and u cud use african instead, and i still think it shud be up with slight revision! --AMTNinja 00:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Kishimoto coloured them both about the same shade of dark brown. That's enough evidence I'd say.
 * I could use "African". There's just one problem, though... they're not from Africa. Nor is Africa the only place that has black people. --ShounenSuki 00:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Revert warring
AMTNinja, revert warring does not help the wiki, and you're displaying a tendency to revert war very often. If someone reverts an edit you made, please take a discussion to the talkpage instead of causing trouble by unreverting. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Dec 21, 2008 @ 23:18 (UTC)

look here! Eevry time i make a freakin' edit, u or that one shosensuki person are always the FIRST ones t try and find something wrong with it and delete, which leads to an argument. But, fine, I'll just make a talk page for everything I edit! that way when eventually try to delete it, we can argue over that as well.