Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26822192-20200512085001/@comment-43776375-20200527090759

Point out one.

Sarada isnt even full Uchiha and the Sharingan takes a massive toll on her and she still got it because she got cought up in her feelings. Again, I don't need to, since we're not seen all the figthers, it doesn't act like a proof

Tecnically no Uchiha is a full Uchiha since Indra surely made a child with a normal human lady, in our case Sarada is the daughter of an Indra reincarnation, so a direct descendant

Who died from it? People who got taken over by nature energy at the mount of toads, people who failed the ritual at the snake world, people who couldn't survive Oro's curse mark

Unlike with a heart attack, stabbing to the heart causes internal bleeding, not only is blood flow stopped. Either way it doesnt matter because Tsunade was stabbed through the heart and didnt immediately die or go into cardiac arrest. You just cant take the feat from her or downplay it. She was unnaffected by being stabbed in the heart A blood loss wound doesn't kill you immediatly the blood loss needs time, the blod doesn't disappear in an istant, I'm just saying it's not a thing that kills you right away

You would have a point if you could prove other Senju didnt have large reserves and that Hiruzen actually used more chakra I didn't need to prove that senju have large reserves since it's not suggested, for Hiruzen we know he did regular use of the multi shadow clone jutsu who's better than casting water without water

Power of the tool=/=power of the user. Literally anyone could gather a bunch of explosives and it will have the same effect. There is no skill involved and ones own power isnt used

Sage mode directly reflects the users power and skill. It becomes part of the user, anyone can use paper bombs but tell them to ammass bilions of them under a lake and see who can do it

It doesnt say how long before that and Gyuki doesmt even say he should have run out of his own chakra yet Gyuki says he should've died, how that not relative to running out of chakra?

And he needs to wait between KCM uses. He dropped out of it constantly and had to take rest periods. This is stated and shown so dont even try to say KCM has no kind of time limit. That's what you said above, I responded to it, repeating it won't change my response

The point of actual contact and literally everywhere else was fine so i dont really care why his prothetic, goopy hand was falling apart So you're ignoring the part that contradicts your premise?

Because his initial attacks failed due to their similarity in speed. As I said in the post you didn't quote: There he verified his ability by passing trough him, just after that he decides to go for a "trading" blow

Like i mentioned before, Minato hasnt done that kind of damage. He cant do it, plain and simple. This logic makes no sense, why would Minato's rasengan be weaker than the others? Plus what you mentioned before has the problem of ignoring that Minato did damage, who adds even more to the way you're making this conclusion

Carving is not grinding Just trying to explain what happens when a grinding ball gets pushed towards something

Rasengan doesnt pierce so it doesnt matter. Change pierce with digging then, should be pretty clear what I meant

A good body, which people typically have unless sick. Minato and Jiraiya weren't special in the sense that they didn't have extraordinary bodies. They were strong due to intellect and skill, not raw power or chakra reserves Nope, you think that Oro couldn't find a non sick body? You think that the sage toad was trolling when he said that without large reserves nature energy takes over you?

Bodies can be trained to be strong. Minato and Jiraiya were basically average joe's physically But we're not talking about physical strenght, thought this was clear, a strong body in the sense that it's a body that can tolerate nature energy

My point is they are physically average. They are not stated to have extraordinary physical attributes If you're thinking of the raikage I agree, again I'm not talking about muscle strenght or skin durability

Orochimaru's bodies die off every like, 4 years or something like that. No surprise the couldnt handle Sage Mode

...but wait, Orochimaru could still use Senjutsu and make Senjutsu chakra even if his body couldnt handle the physical transformation.

And the funniest part is, Orochimaru has shown better physical feats than base Jiraiya. I think it's 3 years, but it's not the body it's the arm thing

Yeah he used juugo sheningans

What kind of feats? Having physical strenght isn't really what I'm going for

Those are from people who failed to properly balance natural energy, not because their bodies were weak or they didnt have enough chakra So we've added another requirement to the list, not only you need large chakra but if you aren't the kind of dude who can balance energes you're toasts