User talk:Banan14kab

Hello Banan14kab, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Daytime Tiger page.

We do hope that you will stay for a long time. Enjoy your stay as we work to become the best Naruto info site out there. BELIEVE IT!

If you're looking for something to do why not look over the Forums or more specifically Narutopedia Collaboration for a list of projects we're working on. And the Community portal has a lot of recent discussions and places to go listed on it.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Snapper2 (Talk) 04:11, September 16, 2010

Image deletion: Vlcsnap-6868078.jpeg
Banan14kab, the image Vlcsnap-6868078.jpeg which you uploaded has been tagged for deletion. Please see the image page for deletion notes. We suggest you look over our image policy and ask that you make an attempt to fix the issues you are causing. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Legal
The license is usually selected through a drop down menu when you upload the image, it adds the template according to the one you select. There is a template for the other one as well, but I'm not sure how or if it can be added automatically, though you do always have to put the info in the fields by hand and all. I usually go to an image which has the template, I copy it and then replace the info in the fields. If you intend to replace an image, it's also a good idea to go to the talk page first. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:47, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I figured it out. Take care 05:15, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Tailed beast affiliation
This has been discussed before, see here. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:25, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

How about ending this revert war before you get blocked? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:33, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

There are no admins on this site so how can I get blocked? Also I just looked at the message Omnibender sent me so stop trying to intimidate me and threaten me. 19:36, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know, Jacce is an admin. Most of the blocks of this site (usually vandal IPs) are made by him. I know, I report them to him. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:39, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Nice for you. Anyway there should be a list of active admins like on the dragonball wiki. 19:41, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is Special:ListUsers and Special:ListGroupRights, but for some obscure technical reason I'm unfamiliar with, they're outdated. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:48, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Infobox
Yes. Please see List of Reference Material, for a listing of the databooks and a listing of the contents of each. S im A nt 23:02, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * And I don't respond well to people performing the same edit over and over again. Particularly when they continue to do so after they have been told why they are wrong. Shukaku is given a Sunagakure affiliation because its databook entry gives it one.
 * And please stop uploading the nature icons. They are already present on the wiki as .svg (which is why I will be deleting all of the ones you uploaded). ~SnapperTo 05:00, October 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * The sword is stuck in the wiki's memory. There's nothing you or anyone else can do to remove the second listing.
 * And yes, I am an admin. You were given a link to the list of admins in the above topic.
 * The "friction" you have met with is not because you are wrong by default. It is because you do not respond well to opposing viewpoints. I'm not familiar with the Dragon Ball wiki, but I doubt ignoring answers because you don't agree with them would work there either. ~SnapperTo 05:45, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Edits
Please consult others beofore making edits such as that. Many others had other ideas "equally good" as yours, but most things are done through compromise. As for the icons, they are only icons created by ShounenSuki. The pictures are demonstrations of the Nature Releases, and they are there to give an image to the reader. --GoDai (talk) 05:03, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke Uchiha
As SnapperTo already said, there is nothing that can be done at the moment. We've had such problems multiple times before as well. —ShounenSuki (talk 09:07, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had already contacted wikia staff about the issue (again, because i tried months ago...) a couple days ago. Hopefully it will resolve the issue. S im A nt 12:23, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, as a side note, the list of admins, is broken because of a global wikia problem, not a local problem here. If you would like to see people with admin rights on any wikia, i would advise to go over Special:log for the time being. As for here, the active admins are Dantman, Jacce, TheUltimate3, ShounenSuki, Snapper2 and myself. S im A nt 12:26, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke Image
Your Sasuke image is very good but apparently it's too small so the black borders keep coming up which makes the image unusable. SO i suggest you get the image again just don't cut it so small if you can--Cerez365 10:42, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke first uses his Sharingan image
Your image was removed from Sasuke's page because of the black lines above and under the page. Then Snapper2 found an other version of the same image, but without the lines (and not that it matters, but it was uploaded three days before you uploaded your image), so he placed it in the article instead of the manga image. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:56, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Edit summary
In regards to this edit summary: Japanese manga images are preferred when they're available. Scanlators modify panels slightly when removing Japanese text and their page-cleaning can cause inaccuracies depending on what the quality of the original scan is. ~SnapperTo 07:12, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Editing
I'm reverting your image changes because they don't follow the image policy, until they have license and rationale, they're automatically not considered. You should also consider using the talk page of the article to propose an image change if others revert it. I'm not a sysop in this wiki, I can't block anyone. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:20, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

OK I apologize for lashing out at you. I just go through things like this a lot on DragonBall wiki also. Like I told you I realized they needed licensing and fair use, but for some reason there was no page on the image even though it was uploaded to the wiki. Do you know why? Also if you didn't block me someone blocked me from editing the Lightning Cutter page. 00:24, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

If there is no page on the image, it means someone must have deleted it already. No idea why you can't edit the Lightning Cutter page. That is usually protected against unlogged in members, because they usually change "Lightning Cutter" to the less accurate "Lightning Blade" (there's an explanation by ShounenSuki either in the talk or in one of its archives), but at the moment, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to edit it. When you tried to edit did you get something like "database error" or something like that? That's a rare-ish thing that happens, but usually just hitting back and doing the edit again works out for me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:38, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Clan
I don't know why everyone is reverting your change of clan to Clan, but... still try to talk to them about it instead of making the same change over and over. S im A nt 23:15, November 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see how clan is a proper noun in this case. The name of the clan is a proper noun, but not the word 'clan' itself. Also, your signature seems to be broken. Could you please fix it? —ShounenSuki (talk 20:07, November 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, you shouldn't capitalise the word city in the phrase 'city of Philadelphia'. If it's not an official part of the name — like with New York City — it shouldn't be capitalised. The word 'clan' in, for example, the Hyūga clan is neither a proper noun nor an integral part of the name, so it should not be capitalised. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:36, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you were able to see the reason in my arguments. It's always a sign of good character when an argument can be resolved in a civilised and mature manner, even when it started out somewhat childishly. As for your questions: I study English with a focus on translation at a highly-acclaimed university in my home country.
 * Your signature problems probably stem from you trying to sue a custom signature that simply doesn't work here, as the page you're trying to substitute doesn't exist on this Wiki. Perhaps removing the custom signature and replacing it with the standard one is more convenient? —ShounenSuki (talk 00:55, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke Uchiha wikia
Hi there. Is it possible for you add a different pic for Sasuke? Like a new one. Maybe one after he gets his Mangekyou. Also you think you could add in Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan for his sharingan stuff? He does have it now. We just haven't seen it yet.

--TheDarkUchiha189 (talk) 01:59, November 10, 2010 (UTC)TheDarkUchiha189

Relatives in infoboxes
They're gone for the moment because people doing maintenance at the central Wikia messed something up that controls how the semantics we use work on collecting information for infoboxes, according to Simant, they're already trying to sort that out. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:15, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sasuke Uchiha Wikia
Yes I did mean the main article. And I wanted it to be an anime pic. His new outfit after he fights itachi.

Kisame's Age
You're not incorrect about Kisame's age, but we only list the ages given in the databooks. The third databook is set at a point where three years or more had past since the end of Part I, so there's a three year's difference between Kisame's Part I age and his Part II age. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:27, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sasuke pic
Yes that picture is perfect. Thank you.

I said why in my edit summary: it wasn't used. I let it sit around for a few days and, when it seemed as though nothing would be done with it, I deleted it. Also, it has technically already been uploaded. ~SnapperTo 20:45, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Image deletion: File-Mangekyō Sharingan Madara (Eternal).png
Banan14kab, the image File-Mangekyō Sharingan Madara (Eternal).png which you uploaded has been deleted. We suggest you look over our image policy before you upload another image to make sure you aren't breaking any part of the policy. ShounenSuki (talk 12:17, December 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Why would you even upload that? —ShounenSuki (talk 12:17, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Swords
I assume you did not see this edit summary? Real-life ninjutsu is stuff involving tools, and Naruto ninjutsu consists of the same. There aren't many examples of it in the series, but they do exist. ~SnapperTo 09:20, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * What SnapperTo said ^^ —ShounenSuki (talk 11:53, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're over-complicating it. When a ninja uses a tool, it is called ninjutsu. Ninjutsu can only be used by ninja. When some non-ninja uses a tool, it is not called ninjutsu because they are not a ninja. It is because samurai are not ninja that the Samurai Saber Technique is not classified as a ninjutsu. ~SnapperTo 05:58, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Especially considering that swords have actually been called ninja tools as well, in both the first fanbook and the second databook. —ShounenSuki (talk 14:41, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * If a samurai used those techniques: it would not be ninjutsu; they are not ninja. If I breathe fire: it would not be ninjutsu; I am not a ninja. If I cook something more complicated than a sandwich: it would not be gourmet; I am not a chef. If I change the wiring in an electrical socket: it would not be safe; I am not an electrician. One needs the proper training for special terms to be applicable. ~SnapperTo 20:23, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: New Icon
Of course I will ^^ —ShounenSuki (talk 18:16, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Landmine punch
How exactly is that a ninjutsu? It's a punch with chakra, it's as ninjutsu as any Gentle Fist technique. Daytime Tiger does a lot, but it's still a taijutsu. Sakura and Tsunade's chakra strength is also considered a taijutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:13, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Izanagi
Forum:New Year's Fact Checking. ~SnapperTo 08:31, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Fighting Tongue Slash
Like I said before this was an issue a long time ago please refer to the talk page. The technique looks the same in the manga, and it was officially released as being his tongue ergo not a water release technique.--Cerez365 (talk) 14:17, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

I truly apologize for that summary edit; I tend to be sarcastic sometimes with them. I honestly meant nothing by it. --Cerez365 (talk) 16:02, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Yata's Mirror
Sighs, I really don't want you to think ill of me but, your images of the Yata Mirror while excellent had watermarks at the top right and had poor file names (there was a website link in there) both of which are against the image policy. --Cerez365 (talk) 17:04, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

all i did was download your image and crop out the watermark bit but because of the name i had to upload it as a new file else i'd have just changed yours. --Cerez365 (talk) 17:36, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Bug
See Simant's comment. ~SnapperTo 07:44, January 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a similar reason as last time. Rather than give you another link, I'll explain: the wiki is being upgraded to a new version of the software. Normally whatever glitches this would cause would be minor and perhaps even unnoticeable. However, this wiki uses Semantics a lot, particularly in infoboxes, and it's creating more technical issues than other wikis experience. I'm not sure what specific problems you experienced a few hours ago, but they will be fixed whenever all the kinks are worked out and/or the infoboxes themselves are modified to function properly with the updates. ~SnapperTo 17:40, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Hōzuki Clan
I cannot help you with the infobox questions. You might want to go to SimAnt for that. The Hōzuki icon, I designed myself. There has never been any symbol for the clan shown in the manga, so I had to use my own imagination. —ShounenSuki (talk 15:50, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Age
I was going to do that originally but decided against it, it is just information that can be obtained from the other characters page. S im A nt 23:44, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand how this infobox works... But you are welcome to experiment in the sandbox. S im A nt 12:34, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Older/younger siblings only works for siblings that are added manually. Sasuke and Itachi's kinship is done automatically, so there's nothing I can do about that. ~SnapperTo 06:40, January 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * The problem you're asking about is related to the Sasuke/Itachi thing. When a character has a known parent, that parent is manually added to their infobox. For example, Fugaku and Mikoto are manually listed as Sasuke's parents. Because of this, Sasuke is automatically listed in Fugaku and Mikoto's infoboxes. Because Fugaku and Mikoto are also manually listed as Itachi's parents, Itachi is automatically listed in Sasuke's infobox since they share a parent. Now, if either Fugaku and Mikoto had a known parent, that parent would manually be listed in their infobox and automatically listed in Sasuke and Itachi's. This is currently done with Asuma; Asuma has Hiruzen listed as his parent, and Hiruzen has Sasuke Sarutobi listed as his parent, so Sasuke Sarutobi is automatically listed as Asuma's grandfather and vice versa.
 * As you can see, this is somewhat complicated. I've suggested before doing everything manually because that's at times simpler, but when it works correctly the automatic process has it benefits. I don't know what specific reason you would have for wanting to edit the family section, but the solution may be to edit the infobox of the child to the respective parent.
 * Also, you may want to do something about you signature; it does not work on this wiki. ~SnapperTo 07:06, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * You edited Madara's infobox the other day. I can't think of a reason for why that would change. Is there something specific that you are unable to do? Can't "save page"; can't change anything; can't even get to the infobox?
 * Your signature doesn't work because you are transcluding a page that only exists on the Dragon Ball wiki. If you want that to work on other wikis too, you need to change your signature settings. Go to Preferences and find the Signature section of the User profile tab. Put . Banan 14kab  into the signature box, check the "custom" signature option (if it isn't already), and save your changes. ~SnapperTo 17:50, February 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Is it because you're looking for something called "family"? If you use a form, the options are "Parents" and "Other Relationships". If you're editing it raw, the parameters are  and.
 * Also, you weren't supposed to include the   tags in your signature. I only used those to make it easier for you to see what your signature was. ~SnapperTo 00:24, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Signature
Could you please fix your signature, it's kind of bothering me. To fix it, just see Snapper2's last comment above. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 00:06, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Is this how it's supposed to turn out?
 * " . Banan 14kab   " ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 00:12, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

1. Just copy this exactly.

. Banan 14kab 

2. Go to the User Preferences and paste it into the "Signature" box.

3. Click the "Custom Signature" button.

4. Hit save at the bottom and when you sign your future posts just type "~" ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 00:24, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well did it work? ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 01:03, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm.. I'll see if I can fix it but no guarantees. In the meantime, try asking Snapper2 to help you with the code, he's pretty good with coding and whatnot. Nonetheless, you still must sign your posts - so just click the signature icon in the edit box until your sig. is fixed. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 04:03, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok.. I've been trying for about a half an hour now and this is my result:


 * Banan 14kab 


 * The end result is this --- Banan 14kab  --- and I took the liberty to link the "14kab" part to your talk page. Now all you have to do is follow the steps I've already given you. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 04:28, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nature orders
There's no need to list them alphabetically. There is no real policy, but the common practice is to list the affinity first (if know), and then the other others either chronologically or according to most used. If there are advanced natures, they're usually listed first, unless there are special circumstances, such as unnaturally acquired natures, or it being unusual, such as Blaze in Sasuke's case. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:09, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, if a nature has been used only in a certain media, for example an anime only nature, that also gets listed after the manga ones. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:11, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't come up with it. It's an unofficial thing that came into existence through use. Nobody ever really talks about it. I just see it as something that works. In particular, I don't think it's necessary to list natures alphabetically. If you feel like formally standardizing a policy or something along those lines, by all means start a discussion on it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:21, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I tend to "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" things. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:12, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, I'm not an admin. The one thing I have over regular users is rollback rights. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:51, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Raws
Narutoverse has some raws, but I don't know if they have just some or most of the series, or how long it takes for them to get a raw after a scanlated release. Or if they manage to get it before a scanlated version is released, I know this site only because someone else linked to it recently in some talk page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:12, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * The exact page is located here. The site has chapter 461 to the latest chapter, and parts of volumes 47 to 50. And they usually have the raw of the new chapter anywhere from a couple of days to two weeks after its official release. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 03:19, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Your Edits
When you see your edits reverted, don't just revert the reversions. Open a discussion about it. I don't think you mean harm — on the contrary, I believe you could be a very productive editor — you just need to discuss more. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:13, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were you, I would just start a new topic on Talk:Nature Transformation. That would be the best place to discuss this, methinks. As for the icon, I'll get right on it. —ShounenSuki (talk 08:43, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Shuriken
I'm not the right person to ask since I don't think highly of several of the jutsu classifications. However, there are certainly a number of jutsu that use shuriken. ~SnapperTo 20:31, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make a topic in the forums or pick a talk page to bring it up on. People with an opinion will chime in. ~SnapperTo 17:33, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: A
The anime image has two things going against it: Consistency is nice, but not as important as clear and correct information. —ShounenSuki (talk 17:33, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) It barely shows the Raikage, as the kage hat obscures a lot.
 * 2) The Raikage's hair is the wrong colour.
 * His hair is supposed to be white. As white as Jiraiya's hair, in fact. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * We have a coloured manga image. We have multiple, in fact. The Raikage has pure white hair (and B for that matter). —ShounenSuki (talk 18:37, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I do want you to know that the manga is the original source. What the manga says is ultimately correct. The anime is a mere adaptation of the manga and has made countless mistakes and changes over the years.
 * As for the Taka icon, it was put on hold due to school work and I somewhat forgot about it afterwards. I'll finish it eventually. —ShounenSuki (talk 19:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bring it up here. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:47, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

10 tails image
The image you keep adding...please stop. In either case the eye is inaccurate. --Cerez™☺ 00:28, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just telling you the image you're adding, the eye is wrong the 10 tails doesn't have a Rinnegan. A Sysop locked a few pages and started a discussion about the whole manga/anime image thing again so the pages are kinda on "standby" --Cerez™☺ 00:43, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re: 7 Tails
I'm quite comfortable on my high horse. I named her Kristi. But in all seriousness it was done because it is one of the current reasons that started this. Because the image keeps getting changed from manga to anime, it fits within the parameters set which would result in a image purge. It wouldn't be fair if this got to keep its image, whatever it is, and others have been purged and locked.
 * If you don't like it, which you clearly don't, feel free to contribute to the Forum post and help come with a solution to the current crisis. I was thinking about returning all the articles to their pre-crisis states when all the locks are lifted tomorrow anyway as to not further disturb the wiki anyway, but any image conflict will result in a purge.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 02:10, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, its a large, complicated issue that has been burning under the surface for months. You're rather heated reaction is part of the reason I have taken such drastic measures on this. It's time for this to end, and we will come to a conclusion that will satisfy everyone. One way or another.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 02:29, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Banan14kab, I can guarantee you this. Your rage over this pales in comparison to mine. My goal is to maintain order, and this has been the cause of disorder for months. It has everything to do with the constant reverting and uploading that has gone on, and will go on. I've said this in the forum post, I will purge and lock pages with image warring until the crisis is settled. Feel free to ignore it if you want, I will not hesitate to block you if it will maintain order. You are free to rage all you want on my Talk Page, that is what it's there for.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 12:09, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I reverted it because per Wikia standards, in the event of an edit war the original is kept until the conflict is resolved. And I was treating you like a child because you acted like a child. Next time something pisses you off, don't run to my Talk Page and rant or get smart. I said point black in the Forum how I would respond to this particular edit war.TheUltimate3 in Class. Suck it Authority!--131.118.85.215 (talk) 14:55, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Recent Happenings
Some images were reverted to their manga counterparts because some believed the anime didn't show them correctly. Here is the forum were the image issue is being discussed.--Deva 27 14:57, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Image
Please stop adding the reuploaded thumbnail of another image that has no rationale to the five tails page. S im A nt 16:54, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * It does not, but this does. You are adding the one that does not. S im A nt 17:06, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ao's article
When the image was first uploaded it stated causing controversy so we made a compromise with the image that's there now. It shows him activating the Byakugan but not the actual Byakugan.--Cerez™☺ 05:42, April 4, 2011 (UTC)