Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180804064637

@LegionZero... So you are saying the rate of gravity after 6 feet is instantaneous...
 * When? how? what? what?...i nowhere hint that.....

The stuff on page 12 all have motion lines.
 * I can assure you that there are alot of page 12's in the manga...

'''comparing Naruto in that panel to Obito is a fallacy. Naruto was standing far from the epicenter of the warp. Obito's face is the epicenter 99.9% of the time'''
 * Standing? he was being warped, he was like all twirly...sakura was behind him being twilry, then Obito was behind sakura also being all twirly. All i said was that Obito was gonna look like Naruto as he gets warped in further...then i asked how can his feet manage to push off of the dimension if they are like that, you couldn't answer.

'''Yep. A jump is just a dash pointed upwards.''' The definition of jump is: Definition of run:
 * The google definition of DASH is:
 * 1) A.. run or travel somewhere in a great hurry.
 * 1) B.. push oneself off a surface and into the air by using the muscles in one's legs and feet.
 * 1) C.. move at a speed faster than a walk, never having both or all the feet on the ground at the same time.

I know your focus will be landed on the never having both feet on the ground part in the run definition. but just to save you some time running and jumping aren't the same. dash can fall in the same category as Run. A synonym of 'dash' is even 'run'. When you make a jump you won't be moving as fast compared to when running. Now if you're gonna give me scenes of obito jumping from one surface to another i would in no way call that a footspeed feat, or should we call it running feat now, to lessen confusion ;_;.

'''He was sitting. And the panel shows him activating Kamui, not being sucked into it his hand is still planted on the ground hand his head is undistorted. His warps pull him in head first.'''
 * Yep that's because he just started the kamui process...and what does the next panel show? nothing as it took full effect, he already left to the other side.
 * 1) A. [USE Kissmanga.ru] 628 Page 22, Bottom panel. The twirly thing again, one can't push off of a surface like that. ALL THIS ASIDE HOW IS PUSHING OFF CONSIDERED AS A FOOTSPEED FEAT? it doesn't.. 357 page 8 shows one, and they even commented that he's fast.

'''Thats cool and all be there is nothing to compare that fall too and we know for a fact he just let himself fall. In 628 he had motivation to move as fast as possible and we have Naruto's movements to compare to. Naruto also had reason to move as fast as he could because he didnt know what was coming just that he had to move out of the way.'''
 * So if naruto had moved around 99999999999 MPH that would mean Obito has that speed also or is somewhere around that speed limit? because that's exactly what you're doing here, Naruto did the dodging and dashing away not Obito.
 * 1) A..628 PAGE 12 Last panel to the far left, look at the streak of lines that's created behind of obito as he fell...switch to 636 page 14..the same lines are there. That proves it's just gravity, because in 636 obito just let himself fall as you said..but gasps what about 628? doesn't that also mean that he let himself fall towards naruto? the same marks are there...
 * 2) B..600 PAGE 14...the same streak of lines are there, as madara flashily enters the battlefield.

You didn't provide any proof so far which states that obito actually has running speed feat. nor did you provide any proof of obito pushing himself off of the surfaces in the kamui dimension to increase his fall..if your reply doesn't have i'll just ignore you dude.(mainly proof of obito pushing off a surface in the dimension to increase his falling speed)

@LoneNinja... '''Oh no. You aren't digging yourself out of this one. If Naruto is instant as you once suggested (which you're retreating from now)''' Not digging to go anywhere, didn't stop saying is instant..i saw it,i say it. Raikage vs Naruto.

'''If Naruto is instant as you once suggested and Obito fell from his Kamui to the ground as fast as Naruto moved from where he was to the left, that would mean he fell as fast as Naruto moved. Actually it suggests he fell faster since his motion lines are larger than Naruto's which means he covered more distance in that time spam than Naruto was able to. Which means none of the Pain's will even be able to react.A better understanding would be. If Obito fell 10 feet in 1 second and Naruto was able to run 5 feet in 1 second, that would mean gravity made him faster than Naruto was able to''' No it means you don't make sense, sorry. Whether if obito pushed off from the other side of the dimension or not doesn't deny the fact that he had help from gravity as you said ,if both of them were running on the ground and obito was somehow able to match Naruto's speed then yayy finally obito is as fast. your comparison is between a guy who doing the running and a guy who is doing the falling, you don't get aid from gravity when running as you would when falling. The motion lines being larger are the work of gravity pushing obito down at a faster rate. You said that'll work on the paths, he can only manage to grab one of them like that, with the shared vision shinra tensei or bansho tenin can prevent obito from warping or just another path can step in, mostly tendo seeing as how he has the footspeed and was able to react and counter sage mode jiraiya's punch.