Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-26403664-20160206050741/@comment-26403664-20160207044406

UltimaDude wrote: @Gmanis41 Prove that any other jinchuriki of Kurama would have the standard version 1 and 2, and the flesh-and-bones replica of Kurama. Tailed Beasts can't fully access their powers unless they have a jinchuriki to focus all that power into a single unit. Not to mention, the initial chakra mode is called Nine Tails Chakra Mode. Madara and Obito had chakra cloak when they became TTJs, does that mean it's not coming from the Juubi? NO In all honestly I can't prove that. The only "proof" I have is that it is never shown Kushina having the ability to create a chakra mode, but then again she has never been seen cooperating with Kurama in any way. I will say that what I was getting at is that if Naruto was the jinchurriki of any other tailed beast I think he would gain a different chakra mode. I'm saying the reason why it's a chakra mode instead of the normal transformation is because of Naruto and Minato. The attributes of this chakra mode come from Kurama because his chakra is being used. Like I said if it was another super chakra sealed in Naruto I think he would have had a different type of chakra mode. The reason it's called Nine Tails Chakra Mode because the chakra used is from the ninetails but nevertheless like I said my opinion is that the reason it's a chakra mode is because of an ability that Naruto and Minato share. I'm not saying that these specific chakra modes aren't coming from these tailed beasts. I'm saying the reason why they're chakra modes are because of the users, the chakra modes and their attributes are based off of the tailed beasts beasts because they literally are based made of the tailed beasts chakra. However I do think the ten tails is a little different from the other tailed beasts in terms of all of this. AsianReaper wrote: It was standard version 1 and 2 forms before because Kurama still had an influence over the chakra.

He shelved his own chakra. He did not use any of his own chakra when in his nine-tailed chakra cloak.

Kurama used his own chakra cloak in Naruto the Last, against Toneri's golem. I think you're missunderstanding my point. The standard 1 and 2 forms are there because Kurama was controlling Naruto and Naruto was not in control of the chakra we can agree there, so yeah. Yes Naruto shelved his chakra but when in the original Nine Tails Chakra Mode he is using and transmitting the chakra for his own use, it isn't for Kurama to use at that point. Kurama's chakra is transformed and being used as Naruto's while still having the attributes of where it originally came from. Your third point I think you also misunderstood what I said before pretaining to that. I meant other than the time Kurama fought the golem on the moon has he used a cloak. Even so why would he need the cloak to begin with, Kurama as a normal tailed beast (flesh and bones) is literally the same as Kurama Mode Kurama. Kurama has only used Kurama mode as the tailed beast sealed inside of Naruto. My point is the reason why Kurama has Kurama mode is because his chakra was already mixed with Naruto's because Naruto was in Kurama mode. Once Naruto shelved Kurama mode (by extension Kurama's chakra), Naruto's chakra was shelved from Kurama. This is all based on that the chakra mode Naruto has is a mix of his chakra and the tailed beast chakra. It is not an innate ability from the tailed beast, it is an ability from the user to be able to mould and use the chakra as their own.