Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26107879-20181004003653/@comment-34194151-20181009005823

1) The body flicker is indicated by smoke sometimes but that hasn't been a regularly used marker through out the canon. Body flicker can't be used to get out of impossible situations, that's what FTG is for. Once you are caught and restrained by a technique you can't use body flicker to escape, body flicker is nothing more than high speed movement, running speed. By that logic, kcm naruto should have been able to escape nagato's chameleon tongue using body flicker, but he couldn't. subsitution is different in my opinion. it's almost a borderline space time ninjutsu based on feats. Itachi was in a comparable situation to kcm naruto when he was impaled by the blade in mid-air. there is no way he can use his body flicker-foot speed in that situation. I also have seen no evidence that kakashi and sasuke aren't using their body flicker technique when they are running with chidori. why exactly would they suddenly stop using their top speed in battle?

2) Tunnel vision inherently means speed boost because no one has suffered tunnel vision in any other context. Every character has ran at their opponent in a straight line before. we might as well say kcm minato had tunnel vision when he ran at Juubito and that's why he lost his arm lol. That would make Minato an idiot because he basically did the same thing he told kakashi not to do. I believe Minato is smart, so him running in a straight line didn't generate tunnel vision, he was simply outmaneuvered by obito. Minato clearly stated the speed at which kakashi was using chidori caused tunnel vision. By your logic, minato should have told kakashi to run in circles around mahiru as opposed to a straight line instead of abandoning chidori as a jutsu all together. Guy clearly stated the stabbing speed of chidori pushes the limits of the human body. Idk how much more clear they can be on the subject. Rock lee's weightless speed does not cause tunnel vision. I already referenced you a panel of rock lee reacting to gaara's sand in the middle of his blitz. Where was his tunnel vision then? The source of confusion is these lexical ambiguities. "stabbing speed" obviously needs context to it, and the context stabbing speed has been used in as always been with the user's running speed. why would standing in one position, not moving your legs, but simply swinging your arm cause tunnel vision? As I said before, there isn't anything stopping hokage kakashi from using raikiri like that, he simply can't use it in battle while he is running or he is dead. hence he has found the need to stop using the technique all together and uses other raiton techniques in it's place.

3) This is already debunked by hokage kakashi not being able to use raikiri/chidori, while he is able to use other raiton techniques. He didn't stop using the raikiri for the lolz, the speed induced tunnel vision is a serious problem since he has lost his sharingan.

4) The problem isn't rock lee's statement, the problem is the interpretation. Rock lee never said that sasuke's chidori speed was the same as the weightless speed. That wouldn't make sense. Rock lee clearly says he wouldn't and CAN"T run at that speed, because then he wouldn't be able to see the opponent's counter, meaning rock lee has never used that speed in that manner. which is obvious, because rock lee isn't a user of chidori. The next panel has also been widely misinterpreted. when rock lee says that sasuke has the same body speed, he is obviously referring to the pure weightless speed. Rock lee is obviously still faster when gates come into play. Rock lee and Eight gates Gai never were shown to experience tunnel vision and yet they move in a straight line much of the time, and in gates, they are faster than most other characters. Why? because the opening of the gates probably boosts their mind as much as does the body, hence no tunnel vision.

5) There aren't any red flags though. The reason I say anime logic in this case is because all other possibilities are ruled out. I already stated that the issue with raikiri/chidori is the speed to bodylimit/visual processing ratio. If you are using a speed boost that your mind can't keep up with, you are going to have tunnel vision. This has only been an issue with raikiri/chidori. The fact that the chakra isn't stimulating his nervous system simply proves why they are experiencing tunnel vision. the chakra is concentrated in his arm, and yet it causes tunnel vision while they are RUNNNING, which uses the legs lol. That alone should tell you that kishimoto isn't using a logical framework for the mechanics of the jutsu. His logic is that chakra to the arm gives a running speed boost that induces tunnel vision. doesn't make sense, but it's his manga. As for characters reacting to chidori/raikiri, that's because raikiri is simply a speed boost, if the gap in speed is too great using raikiri won't save you. Gaara reacted to sasuke's chidori only after he himself underwent a massive boost in speed. Gaara went from having 0 speed feats to being faster than weightless lee.