Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25139119-20140705022956/@comment-7292165-20140813004100

ShaRin'negan94 wrote: Rachin123 wrote: ShaRin'negan94 wrote: ItachiWasAHero wrote: You also forget Nagato was not used to his legs and was still crippled when Kabuto restored him using Bee's chakra and had him almost kill Bee and Naruto.. Nagato is a monster and has mastered the 7 paths and many many other ninjutsu, Sasuke has a long way to go before he gets to Nagato's level, PLOT armor and PLOT killing is what stopped Nagato.. a crippled Nagato was Kabuto's second Strongest Edo Tensei, Itachi was his third Strongest Edo Tensei and Madara with all of his enhancements: wood release, rinnegan and Kabuto somehow making him in his prime WITH all of those enhancements, Made him Kabuto's Strongest Edo Tensei.. and they were all still a good bit weaker than if they were actually brought back to life as shown with Madara reviving himself and easily breaking out of Edo Hashirama's technique even though he could not do that before as an Edo.

Even now Sasuke also has many many Ninjutsu and with all his mangekyo techniques I think that he isn't far away from Nagato I actuallly think that he's stronger than Nagato NAruto is just an idiot who can only spam his rasengan and nothing more without Kurama he would be nothing (and he wouldn't be so fast and strong without kuramana or the six paths technique) well I think if Sasuke gets the Rinne paths because of his Rinnegan his rinne techniques will be much stronger than Nagatos (because these weren't even Nagatos own eyes) and he would also have more rinne techniques like limbo or some new ones but only IF he would get access to them As much as its true he wouldnt be near as strong if he didn't have kurama but he also mastered sage mode. It seems that you hate how Naruto uses the power of the biju but he's a jinchuriki. It should be what you expect. But if you wanna go there Sasuke would've been blind if he didn't get Itachi eyes which didn't belong to him like kurama don't belong to Naruto. And going from what we've seen so far from Sasuke's rinnegan power and Nagato's I'd say Nagato put in better work. Yes it wasn't Nagato's eyes so he wouldn't be as strong as the owner but that could just mean if the user maatered it. Someonbe coulkd have the ability but not the skill as such.

I don't really hate Naruto but I actually hate the idea of an underdog who surpasses the genius by hard training

well if the underdog keeps training like an idiot and the genius stops at some point yes the underdog could surpass him but the genius (in this case Sasuke) wasn't stopping he also was training all the time(not like an idiot because a genius soesn't need the same amount of training)

the other thing is that the only technique Naruto has is his Rasengan and his clone (the clones actually everybody could use them especially sasuke with his sharingan who could copy it if he wanted to) And the only thing Naruto mastered by himself was Sage mode everything else is because of the Bijuus and their chakra

but its like Ashura and Indra = indra the one who was a genius and could do anything alone and Ashura who at first needed the help of others to acomplish something and then later gets stronger Well it may just be me but your not liking Naruto could cloud your judgment. Yes Naruto is not the smartest person. How does he train like an idiot? Naruto yes didn't have good chakra control but he got the rasengan which can be annoying but its a strong move. He created the rasenshuriken. He found a way to fast forward training time by using the experience gained from shadow clones and dispelling them. Unlike Sasuke who was given a special gift and not to mention two nature releases from part 1 who was able to improve them unlike Naruto who got wind release like in the middle of part 2. He relies on biju because it happened to be in him and he used it. Naruto works hard. May it be the way I would? Maybe or maybe not but his ways of training being stupid is a bit much. Sasuke is a genius in his on way but that doesn't necessarily make him better than Naruto. And it also doesn't help that Jiraiya was his master. He probably stalked girls 75% of the time and trained Naruto the other 25% of the time. And its possible that as you say the underdog could surpass the genius but that's not always the case. From what I can tell you seem to let your emotions towards Naruto get in the way and don't look at it in his way. But its your opinion but I respectively disagree.