User talk:Rachin123

Re: Hmmm
What I mean is that in all the research I've done for game jutsu, I have come across the actual Japanese name for the jutsu Mei uses. Tobirama's is 水遁・水断波, which was named in the manga in September 2013. Mei's is 水遁・水絶斬, which is game-only, and debuted in UNSR in September 2014. TBB has different game names because the manga itself didn't reveal the name until long after games had to make up their own names for it. For this, Tobirama's jutsu already had an established name, so if they were the same, there'd be no reason to change the name of an established jutsu. There are quite a few jutsu that are super similar between themselves, but considered different over having different names even in the manga. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:40, August 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * The change in name of Mei's technique only added a prefix without changing the rest of the name, and was most likely added in that instance so people wouldn't confuse it with Mei's Boil Release jutsu, this has been pointed out in talk pages as well. Mei and Tobirama's jutsu still isn't the same, they both exist at the same time with different names in the same game. The same happens with your other change to a jutsu they use. Both use Water Release: Drizzle/水遁・時雨, but what the games call Water Style: Water Barrage, is exclusively something only Tobirama's uses in his awakening that in Japanese is 水遁・散弾の術. Again, both jutsu exist at the same time in the same game with different names. It's like Chidori/Lightning Cutter/Hell Stab, they're all lightning infused thrusts in the end, but still considered different jutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:15, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

Concern
Arent you gonna warn that lorenzo guy?He insulted me right?As you were so fired up for issuing a warning against me when I said "stupid". Hungry Ghost realm (talk) 11:05, August 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Arent you using too much sarcasm to flame me up?Are you excused because you're the moderator?Youre using way too much sarcasm just because you dont agree to the facts I put before you. And none of the facts are fabricated if it is prove me wrong then. Just curious, do moderators get warnings issued?


 * If I caused trouble I apologize. I'll clean up my act to avoid creating negativity in the threads in future. Hungry Ghost realm (talk) 11:40, August 4, 2017 (UTC)

Edit
Why did you undo my editTyman1102 (talk) 04:02, August 12, 2017 (UTC)Tyman1102

Re: Tool use equals Ninjutsu
There has been some discussion in the past over what tool use is, don't really recall where the last consensus was held. The most relevant part of the rationale for it that I recall is that taijutsu is technically unarmed combat, and since every jutsu is either taijutsu, genjutsu, or ninjutsu, tool use would fall under ninjutsu, even if it doesn't use chakra. The opening paragraph of the ninjutsu article mentions weaponry use as ninjutsu because of this resolution, if I'm not mistaken. There was a whole forum for the definition of some articles of some specific bukijutsu, like kenjutsu and shurikenjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:10, August 12, 2017 (UTC)

Flying Swallow
Never bloody used it, huh? :)--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 17:23, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Late to the party but Beserk is correct. It also was referenced on Shikimaru's article before you removed it for some reason. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:26, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Translation
Sure, I'll check those as soon as I can. --JouXIII (talk) 18:48, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's what I found:


 * *EDIT* Damnit, editing with mobile can be quite a pain... --JouXIII (talk) 22:19, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. (^_^) On side note, that round protection thing Gaara does in NUNS4 is . --JouXIII (talk) 22:28, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * *EDIT* Damnit, editing with mobile can be quite a pain... --JouXIII (talk) 22:19, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. (^_^) On side note, that round protection thing Gaara does in NUNS4 is . --JouXIII (talk) 22:28, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Sure, I'll check that as soon as I can. --JouXIII (talk) 05:15, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, that was simple: it's Lightning Oppression Horizontal. --JouXIII (talk) 06:42, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * You mean this one? Well, like Omnibender said in my talk page, it's found here. Use CTRL+F and search 木遁・大木槌. On a side note, Japanese names of that and Wood Release: Wooden Mallet should be read as Mokuton: Ōkizuchi(furigana of this technique is おおきづち, not おおこづち, ōkozuchi), and Mokuton: Kozuchi, since that's what づち means, "zuchi". At least that's my opinion. --JouXIII (talk) 20:07, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Most of the names I found, they were usually from lists in other sites, so I had no furigana. JouXIII usually has better luck finding Japanese gameplay video where the names actually appear than I do. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:12, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried, but for some reason the translation template wasn't setting up the game name right. I'm looking up stuff on the template to see if I can make it display it right. I think I found a non-ideal way to do it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:37, August 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * But putting them like that makes it unclear that Mid-Spring Strike and Killer Spring are different translations of the same game name. Putting them together more clearly shows that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:02, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

Game combos
Just a heads up about certain game stuff you might edit. For certain articles, like Coral Rising Attack, the reason some of them mention stuff like taijutsu and punches and kicks is to account for the entire string that results in the combo. I tried getting discussions done in the past over what to consider part of such articles, but interest in game jutsu was always low. The issue was what to consider part of the combo. They're always named after the last move they do on the string, but they don't happen if you don't finish the string sort of making them necessary. I always tend to list the entire string, because that sort of happens in ultimate jutsu as well, there being some sort of set up for the actual jutsu, but the lack of separate commands and the more cinematic animation always made it so those articles always listed the entire sequence of events. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:55, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Blocking
Why are you blocking me?because I negated your skepticism? Stubborn much?Dont worry we can live in peace in our delusions huh?Hungry Ghost realm (talk) 14:39, August 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Cuz kishi created it months after manga that its trustable. Its not written before manga so its not hype certainly and plot is necessary to help protagonists get through tight situations. If one jutsu like kamui can live through the hype in databook them there shouldnt be any partiality to other techniques. Thats all I wanted to say you could take the databook statements literally of whoever you want to support or supports.I dont have any objection against it except take note of the black heading as it can sometimes be metaphorical but it depends, if the title in black heading is literally explained further then its not a metaphor but if its not explained further then its a metaphor. Do you want some scans so I can prove it?


 * Dude you're blaming kishimoto now?Because his rules dont adhere with your beliefs? C'mon buddy that's not cool you're watching his series, its his rules. The bery fact that kishimoto sells those books after manga means they aint hype but a way of giving us a sense of discernment whether something was because of plot armour or not. Databooks aren't false as you say if it was so why did kamui pergorm exactly as its stated of being capable of doing in the databook? Databook aint greater than manga but it's equal to manga. Jutsu cannot be explained in detail when it'll take a lot of screentime in the anime, the reason DB's are released for more elaborated understanding of techniques. I hope you get what I'm saying Thanks.