Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-25265296-20150827064037/@comment-25093611-20150901080516

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: @GreatestSin When did he say Madara was invincible? Not having a weakness isn't the same as being invincible. sorry, yeah, invincible =/= having no weaknesses... Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: And how is he invincible when he was clearly beaten and weaker than Kaguya? Kishi contradicts his own words based on how he ended the Manga if we're going to go based on that. And what he does and what he makes the characters say at the end of his manga > what he said in an interview years ago to get people excited for the final arc. Madara was beaten by Hashirama, on numerous occasions in their lifetime but most notably twice, and then defeated by Hashirama as Edo Tenseis. yeah, kishi mentioned that he didnt have weaknesses, he can lose.. Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: As the TTJ he got smacked around a bit by Eight Gates Guy (even though Madara was holding back and admitted that Guy's attack could have possibly killed him) and then proceeds to get overwhelmed by Naruto and Sasuke throughout their entire fight being forced to retreat to get his other Rinnegan and then is backstabbed by BZ and transformed into Kaguya. So him having "no weakness" being interpreted as being "unbeatable" is clearly wrong. Especially those who say Kaguya was created cause Madara was "unbeatable" whenh she was clearly a lot stronger than he was. he got pawned around by guy but he survived and is still the winner, and in the fight with sasuke and naruto he wasnt at full strength like now, the two became equal while fighting combined against him while he "only" had one rinnegan and TT, his power would get a superboost after getting the other rinnegan and the rinne-sharingan, imagine a kaguya who can use her powers without letting them backfire at herself :I some crafty use of the bone-attacks plus teleportation and naruto/sasuke would be gone... he can also use PS without EMS that means that touching him is nearly impossible, and many many oher ways to use his incredible amount of abilitys :)

for the bolded part: powerwise, yes, kaguya is stronger but in a actual fight i dont see her having much of a chance (of course, the immortality of the two is gone since there wouldnt be a winner) ^_^