Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-32617252-20180624185603/@comment-32617252-20180630185338

see, accept for the fact that the whole hiruzen deal was super retconned. hiruzen is not the strongest hokage ever, he shouldnt have been able to fight hashirama and tobirama at the same time plus the fact that old man hiruzen would never beat pain, whom not even jiraya could do, and im pretty sure that with sm or not, orochi was still his equal one way or another.