Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-34656247-20180801054417

LegionZero wrote: This same thing happens in Naruto so that we can actually see what happens when they fight, otherwise we would be watching the little swoosh lines from shunshin or blurs. So basically you were referring to slow motion scenes..don't get your example tho ,-,

Bullet time, because according to lore we shouldnt be able to see them clearly at all if we were watching in real time.

I dont know why you think their top speeds dont apply to jumping, characters use high speed jumps to get dozens of feet in the air, Obito and Naruto are jumping through spaces barely taller than them. So did you check the anime version or not? i'll take that as not, and everything has a reason as i always say. A possible reason of why you won't check it is that they were not actually moving that fast as you think they were and you won't accept that, the anime proves that but you just won't check.. that scene didn't happen in slow mo either.

Naruto is significantly faster than gravity. No reason to believe Obito didn't push himself off of a solid surface from his side. I don't recall Obito being able to eject himself with force either.

The distance between where Obito started and landed is the same as where Naruto started and was shown to be.
 * And that makes obito faster also?
 * No reason to believe that he did either,and seriously dude, when you use kamui to exit the dimension it looks the same as when you're trying to enter the dimension..a tiny black hole thingy opens and your entire body just gets twirled in ,how can you push yourself off of the ground when the ability works like that? your feet will no longer even be on the ground......
 * Use the kunai example i sent..maybe he can do that with himself.
 * Okkkkkkkkkk?...then how does stating that make obito seem faster?

All that aside, how is that example even close to footspeed?!...and how does anything you provided above help Obito to counter near 360 degree vision?..and as i stated already, using footspeed isn't really his style of combat.

@LoneNinja wrote Not a debate. If I run away from you with the goal of running away, I'd move as fast as possible to get away. However, if you keep up with me, you're moving at around my speed. Naruto was trying to run from Obito. Obito kept up. If Naruto could move faster than he was, he would of since Obito was keeping up and his goal was to get away. The tree example is not the same. They aren't running away from anyone. They're going to their destination. They have to preserve their stamina for the mission. Naruto was already in battle against the man he needed to take down to complete his mission of winning the war so there was no reason to preserve anything. That's a good point..but in Naruto's case it doesn't really mean he would just instantly blitz away as he did with the raikage and he clearly didn't do that, the reason he didn't blitz away is because of the obvious fact which is OBITO is not that fast, you just keep your speed level a little above the speed of whatever's chasing you and that is what Naruto did against the raikage and Obito and this kinda explains how fast obvious really is for Naruto to reduce his speed from blitzing away (like against ay) to just jumping away casually. The tree example can be the same, you just have to add a target in front of them for them to catch...an example would be team shikamaru trying to catch up to the sound 4.....