Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34661853-20181224172126/@comment-34661853-20190113234322

Vladosaurus wrote: Arturia00000 wrote: I kinda thought of the power levels between Hashirama and Madara a while ago.

I always thought it was like this.

1. Base Hashirama = EMS Madara ( Normal )

2. Sage Mode Hashirama = EMS Madara + Kurama / Nine-Tails ( Tailed Beast )

3. Sage Mode Hashirama <= One Rinnegan + EMS Madara ( Limbo, Tengai Shinsei, Gedo Statue, Wood Release )

So, according to me, Madara should take this, as Hashirama does not have a counter for Limbo, Tengai Shinsei. Though he probably could hold Gedo Statue for some time. Also, I believe that Madara with Wood Style would further pressurize Hashirama.

Except that base Hashirama beat EMS Madara, SM Hashirama beat Madara + Kurama. So they are clearly not equal.

Tengai Shinsei would also kill Madara, not just Hashirama. Limbo has limited time, and it's debatable whenever it would be enough to actually kill Hashirama himself.IMO it would not enough by a long mile.Also Madara has no counter for Several thousand hands.

Hashirama and Madara were never equal in level, Hashirama was always more powerful than Madara, but for me the Madara revived by the Rinne Tensei overcame the Hashirama, so I think the following:

Base Hashirama (alive) > EMS Madara (alive) Sennin Hashirama (alive) > EMS Madara (alive) + Kurama Sennin Hashirama (alive) < Rinnegan Madara (alive/Rinne Tensei)

I think this because Madara has her previous powers, Hashirama's powers (Sennin Mode and Mokuton) and even more Rinnegan.If Hashirama is more powerful than that, then he can makes the prowess of being more powerful than his OWN powers plus of Madara and MORE Rikudou's eye.