Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-34656247-20180521184300/@comment-33286580-20180522101345

@Jason

i am not straying away from point. you said the Kage with the exception of A were slow, i just asked you on what basis did you come to that conclusion. i also asked you how do you even base that Itachi is super fast.

the speed feats you mention - the part where Sharingan cant keep up, i think you mean when he fought Kakashi in part 1. onto that point, Itachi used diversion to hide his use of jutsu and even then Kakashi caught on to it - the shuriken exchange had nothing to do with speed. they were both equally matched. yeah, sasuke needed the scroll on his hands, because there is where he kept those shuriken duh. - KCM1 Naruto didnt fight Itachi. Itachi attacked Naruto after being forced by Kabuto and Naruto simply blocked and tried to dodge him. Naruto was more focused on getting answers from Itachi. Itachi fought B and Naruto fought Nagato. there was no speed blitzing there. they never fought so dont make up anything imaginary.

to your point about Amaterasu - Amaterasu was never streamed. Never. the only time it was used on large scale was against Sasuke. itachi attacked him multiple times and just so you know the tired Hebi Sasuke actually dodged a couple of Amaterasu. Hebi Sasuke who was no where near Kage level back then could do that what makes you think that Gaara's automatic defence cannot shield against Amaterasu attempts.

Gaara wouldnt know when the attack is coming... really... tell that to A who predicted Sasuke's Amaterasu. even Hebi Sasuke did so and dodged them.

Yeah. the Kage will survive, probably better than Kakashi did. no doubt. yes, the Kage hit with Tsukuyomi may be more or less out to fight, but dont forget that Itachi can only put one person under Tsukuyomi under the time. in the mean time the other Kage are free to attack him. he is more or less vulnerable then.

on that note, the Kage have Tsuande, who reversed the effects of Tsukuyomi from over Sasuke and Kakashi in an instant. she can just undo the mental damage on the Kage on the field and he would back in play.

Orochimaru was caught by Sharingan Genjutsu. you were saying how non ocular (the finger genjutsu) will take down Kage. those are two different things and on a completely different level altogether.