Talk:Road of Naruto

images
There's been a back-and-forth across the wiki about whether or not to use images from this video. Rather than continue the cycle of upload --> delete --> undelete --> re-upload, I feel it would be better to actually discuss it.

I personally don't think it matters what the source of an image is so long as the image is a) from an official source, and b) good. It's why so many character articles use promotional artwork for video games, because those video game images are good. And if the wiki has been comfortable with video game images for several years, it should likewise be comfortable with images from this video.

To be clear, I don't know that every potential image that can be taken from this video is "good". Looking at the video again, there are some scenes with lighting effects that might make them inferior to the original anime version. So if the wiki decides to use images from this video, it should be on a case-by case basis. But that applies to basically any image consideration on the wiki; at the risk of picking on Sarutobii2, some users have a bad habit of trying to replace 4:3 images with 16:9 alternatives because they think the extra width somehow makes the image better. But that's not necessarily true and sometimes the 4:3 image is the better option, just as sometimes the original anime option may be better than what's in this video.

Anyway, other opinions welcome. ~SnapperTo 05:04, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Considering the wiki has previously used images in articles from a range of official sources that aren't from within the actual manga/anime story eg volume covers for infoboxes/ability sections or even character artwork in the case of Misuno for her infobox, i don't see a problem with using OVA images in articles. Saying that, i don't believe every image in the OVA should replace pre existing images on the wiki mainly because it seems unnecessary and there are noticeable errors in a few clips. The handful of OVA images i have uploaded was to meet some user's preferences of replacing 4:3 images with adequate 16:9 images, or to better depict a scene. Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * In reference to video game images, those video game images are often tied to video game articles (such as the Clash of Ninja series, Ultimate Ninja Storm, etc.). Those also seem to be full body renders, which I'm indifferent to since none of them seemed to come from the anime itself. With OVAs, I don't see much of an issue because at least those were original animations in some form, and I agree with Saru that not all OVAs would be needed to replace the actual "production anime" screenshots. My concern with this is using screenshots from a YouTube video that's not anime original as grounds to replace ones that were original. At first I didn't think much of it, but when I saw errors such as Sasuke with only Sharingan (instead of the Sharingan/Rinnegan pair) when he declared a revolution, I didn't want to pull video screenshots that wasn't anime original to discredit the accurate images we had in place. Now whether there's better anime original screenshots of the Naruto: Shippūden series that occurred in the original Naruto series that needs to be replaced, I'm indifferent. For my stance on credibility and accuracy, I'd rather we pull high quality screenshots (whenever possible) from the actual anime/movie instead of pulling these YouTube screenshots that celebrate particular milestones of a series. I also wanted to mention, that if videos like those come out like the "Road of Naruto" and the series' "20th anniversary" trailer, then there's more to come. I don't have a problem with Road of Naruto screenshots, but I don't find it as a good idea to replace them with anime-originals that we have had in place. I'd rather these be placed as a gallery in the Road of Naruto article if it's worth seeing for our users. -Ventillate { 👤 | 💬 | 🔧 } 15:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If I'm allowed to share my opinion on the matter, I believe the Road of Naruto images could be used to replace some of the ones covering arcs and moments. I feel this way not because on my own personal feelings on the images, but because some images are from Shippuden, based on flashback episodes and/or remakes of original scenes from Part I, such as the Zabuza arc, the (first) final fight between Naruto and Sasuke, the Search for Tsunade arc, etc. etc. Since those are technically not part of the original episodes, but still used as images to display the events occuring in said arc, even with minor changes in animation and even changes in some moments themselves, I believe the RTN images could be used in some parts of the articles. But, regardless, any decision that it's made, I won't dispute it. I just wanted to share my views on this matter. HygorBohmHubner (talk) 05:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Road of Ninja is made by Studio Pierrot, who also make the anime. That the video is on Youtube shouldn't be disqualifying. It would be like disallowing illustrations by Kishimoto because he posts them on Twitter, or something. ~SnapperTo 19:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not going after the fact that it was made my Studio Pierrot or posted on YouTube. I'm saying that the video is not the official anime. It's just renditions of what occurred in the anime. -Ventillate { 👤 | 💬 | 🔧 } 22:16, 15 March 2023 (UTC)