Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150512133037/@comment-4061125-20150722132150

Minato 87 wrote: BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Minato didn't defeat Killer Bee. Bee had his swords pointed towards Minato the moment he teleported behind Bee to kill him. Minato couldn't do anything during that time and so left the battlefield without killing Bee. Now the reason Minato left was, if I remember correctly, because his subordinates said that something very important had come up that needed Minato's immediate attention. I'm sure that had the battle been drawn out, Minato would have been able to take out Bee. Sadly the battle didn't take place due to plot so we don't know the full extent of how Minato would perform against Ay and Bee. But in any case, he didn't defeat Bee in that battle. He did defeat Kamui. But neither of these battles prove that Minato was on par with Tobirama when it comes to intelligence and strategy. During the battle against Juubito it was obvious that it was Tobirama who was keenly analysing Juubito, unlike Minato. In fact, at one point Tobirama even reprimanded Minato and Naruto for not using their brains properly I didn't mean Minato defeats Bee, I mean Bee, Naruto, Guy and Kakashi needed more time to defeat Kamui, but Minato did this in few seconds. Tobirama is intelligent, but not more than Minato.

I disagree. Tobirama created the Shadow Clone, Impure World Ressurection, and Flying Thunder God Jutsu. This means that he must have been ridiculously intelligent to create 1) a jutsu that literally teleports you through space, 2) a jutsu that creates a clone copy of yourself with physical mass which can use jutsu and 3) a jutsu that literally revives the dead and allows them to fight along side you. These are not easy jutsu to create, as none of them could be created simply by using chakra nature and shape manipulation. Plus, we got to see his intelligence in the war and his tactics first hand. He was quick on his feet, great at analyzing, and amazing at working with people that he had never fought alongside before.

Minato has great battle tactics for sure, but not on that level, which was evident in the war. Also, he created the rasengan and perfected the flying thunder god jutsu. In other words, he made an established jutsu better and took it to the next level and created a jutsu which only requires shape manipulation to perform. I know he would have added chakra nature manipulation if he hadn't died.