Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33030270-20170904204034/@comment-26636534-20171011191839

Well...

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Eagle to fly and be put of range of jiraiya's attacks

Sasuke's summon is a hawk not an eagle.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Umm....yes they were using thier strongest attacks, temari used the okamaitachi which is her best move along with gaara sand drizzles which have the best piercing potential in his arsenal , darui used storm element which is a kekkei genkai , so it has to really powerful and kankuro used his strongest pierce attack Temari's strongest technique appears to be the summoning: quick beheading dance, Darui's is his black lightning technique and Gaara's sand waterfall technique is much stronger than sand drizzle.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Just because you know your opponents strength and powers ; don't mean anything if you can't counter it.

Pain said if Jiraiya knew their secret he would have been defeated. So nope.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Jiraiya could seal those flames but I wonder if Sasuke converges the flames in his eyeballs, what's he gonna do?

He tried to do that to Gaara and it didn't work. Won't work on Jiraiya.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Even frog kata is useless as Sasuke is a far range fighter.

Frog kata would crush Sasuke, Sasuke won't be able to see the natural energy enhanced range.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

You're severely overestimating lion mane and toad stomach if you think its stopping Susanoo arrows. Something which pierced hashirama's wood release, which are way durable than toad stomach.

Danzo's wood release =/= Hashirama's wood release. No point there.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: If an experienced medical nin and sensor ninja, couldnt break it , then how'll jiraiya break it?

Jiraiya getting caught is unlikely, toads would break him out if that happens. According to Chiyo, Sharingan genjutsu can be overcome with multiple allies, toads would attack Sasuke while he is preoccupied with the genjutsu. This strategy is from someone who fought multiple Uchiha before. No reason to assume otherwise.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: What does he being arrogant have anything to do with jiraiya getting the upperhand?

Sasuke was arrogant when he fought the five kage and got his ass beat.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: "Jiraiya hasnt been caught in an illusion" lmao, did you forget jiraiya getting tricked by itachi by manipulating a woman to stall him?

That's not a genjustsu though and Jiraiya realized the facade and confronted Itachi and Kisame, which caused the duo to flee. No point there for you lol.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

How'll jiraiya penetrate SusanoO

UBBR, food cart destroyer, toad oil flame bullet, sage techniques. Many options indeed.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Talking about wider range, Sasuke has the upperhand obviously. Nope, Jiraiya has terrain altering-level jutsu, swamp technique, toad flame, gamabunta collaboration techniques, UBBR, Sasuke doesn't come close. Chidori: anything, can't do a fraction of that, Susanoo arrow can't even significantly damage a bridge. This Sasuke can't spam Amaterasu so you can't use that either.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Ninja@ that swamp argument wont work since A didnt pull Sasuke out of SusanoO when he was on the ground but instead chose the harder path of kicking him from above even though kagutsuchi would damage him .which means he couldnt pull Sasuke out from the down opening. Gaara's sand is spiritual, so your argument is invalid. No, swamp sinks Sasuke and his Susanoo. No spiritual requirement. Also Sasuke uses a lot of chakra to maintain Susanoo, extremely unlikely to use blaze release at the same time, his stamina would only allow him to use one or the other at a time.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Sasuke was going to use kirin on team 7, thats the reason oro stopped him. Proven.

You didn't prove it. Show me a chapter or episode where Orochimaru tells Sasuke not to use Kirin specifically. If you can't, then you can't prove it.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote:

Amaterasu burns and kills him sinve hachibi which tanked lava was screeching with pain when hit by black flames.

Jiraiya can counter Amaterasu, so not an issue.

Natrix Spiritual Cloak Gleam wrote: Sasuke fought raikage and then gaara and then mei even though the match was somewhat splitted...

Sasuke lost each of the kage he fought, he survived due to third party intervention. Sasuke was about to be killed by A, then Gaara intervened. Tried to kill Gaara, failed and ran away. Was about to be killed by Mei, then Zetsu intervened. Was about to be killed by Ohnoki then Obito intervened.

Jiraiya is stronger than those kage, so it's stands to reason would do better. Sasuke loses.

Just had a thought, Jiraiya could get close while Sasuke uses his Susanoo, smoke bombs and whatnot, and then use toad-mouth-bind on Susanoo, causing the inside of Susanoo to be encased in the toad stomach, quickly digesting Sasuke. Jiraiya wins lol.