User talk:Omnibender

Dirac Sea
I'm not so active on the wikia because I got pretty busy, but I'm just dropping by to leave an idea. Have you read the old theory for the Dirac sea? It postulates that vacuum itself is an infinite sea of particles with negative energy. It was also used a slight bit in the anime series Neon Genesis Evangelion, although it is displayed with slightly different properties. I was thinking the idea of a "sea of negative energy" could be the answer to Water+Lightning+Yin. --GoDai (talk) 21:31, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

your input on Obito's age and Kakashi's Jounin promotion age
Hello, could you be that kind and take a look at the conversation? I think it's very important if we present true or false information. According to what we have discussed and what we know, taking Suki Sensei's assumption isn't a way to present it at this website as a fact. Would be nice to get some input from other admins as well, a lot of people use narutowikia as a reference, but them using incorrect information in a place of proof due to lack of any other "fact" being known just helps to pass on only disinformation and confusion.--Elveonora (talk) 23:12, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re: User infobox
Oh crud... I forgot about that. I'll delete it from my userpage. If you wanna delete the infobox page itself from the wiki, go right ahead. It totally slipped my mind that it would register on other pages. Sorry for the inconvenience. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:53, September 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alrighty. I'll give that a try. Thank you. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 02:00, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

Wikia's Fantasy Fellowship
Hey!

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Check out this blog on how Naruto Wiki can get involved!

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/sixbitsnonethewiser/images/0/07/Kate_03.png  (talk) 18:21, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

How do you email users?!
Can someone please tell me how to email users as the prefereneces/options says, if they have email enabled? --MrAnalytical (talk) 09:19, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Important question
Hey Omni. You've known me for awhile and are well founded in the community, so I want to ask you something, if I may. I am highly interested in joining the administration team of this wiki. I do care about this wiki, more so than the other canon wiki, as I call them, that I contribute to, because the users are more included in things, whereas on Bleach Wiki, for instance, the admins lock up everything to themselves and allow the users to edit whatever they just don't want to.

Back to the point, I don't want it to seem like I'm just asking you to shoot me up a rank when my edit count isn't even quite 300 yet, but you know a bit of my background so you know I'm not irresponsible. That being said, I'm willing to earn my spot on the team if you and the other admins deem it necessary. I have a set of skills that could be brought to such a position that would benefit the site; previous experience on many wikis as an administrator, overall good relations with users, and competent editing skills.

Like I said, I am willing to prove to you all that I am dedicated and resourceful enough for such a task, but before I do any of that, I want to ask you a few things;


 * 1) Is it even possible for me to become an admin at some point?
 * 2) If the answer to the above question is yes, what is the general process I need to go about to reach this point?

If you are unable to answer these questions, but know who can, please direct me to them. My only goal in all of this is to aid the site in the best way I know how. Thank you for your time and for reading this considerably long message. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 01:24, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for replying. That clears a lot of things up. I can speak to Dantman about the other stuff. Its just that, I saw Cerez or one of the other prominent users say something about worrying what happens to this site when all the admins and prominent users go off, and I realize that I really like Narutopedia (hence why I've picked up my activity here). Naturally I'd want to do something more to help out and I'm good with administrative duties, so I figured I'd ask. Thanks again Omni. I appreciate it. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 02:39, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Obito's infobox
Isn't it possibly to change "Part I." to "death/gaiden" or something? thanks--Elveonora (talk) 22:35, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tobi and Obito mentions
Oh, okay. I thought we were still going with what was decided on before.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 11:41, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Bot Changes
Just: because thats how they are "generally" used. 04:38, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * practicing to practising
 * practiced to practised
 * Hi.
 * You changed enrolled to enroled here. But I was told on my talkpage that enrolled is correct. Which is right? 05:39, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * From what little research I did, its indeed, enrolled and enrolling. 06:36, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't see your next edit. Sorry for that. 06:38, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Kusari
Could you add Kazuma to the list? He uses it to split and extend his staff. -- The Goblin  12:08, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Nova Wiki
Eu Imaginava que vc Ia dizer aquilo na Verdade eu Queria te convidar antes de Lançar o Capítulo 599., Cara Queria Te fazer uma Pergunta Você é Brasileiro??, Wikias de Naruto em Português Podem ser Boas se Forem de qualidade... a Minha wiki é Nova e estou em Busca de usúarios experientes. E além disso lá já temos umas 665 Imagens e 83 Págianas eu te chamei Por que achei que você poderia me ajudar, Dá uma Chance Por favor! Eu sei que essa wikia aqui o Pessoal é Rápido, mais é Porque ai Lançam o episódio e Mangá mais Cedo do que no Brasil. lá na Minha wiki tem uma Menina Chamada Nayomi que edita em 2 wikis em Português e olha que ela é ADM das duas wikis de Naruto.Bom eu Ficaria Muito Grato se vc Resolvesse Mudar de idéia e ajudar lá mesmo que seja um Pouquinho, eu ainda falo lá tem umas Páginas Imcompletas que ainda tem que terminar. caso vc mude de idéia http://pt.narutovicio.wikia.com só para lembrar Tem Uma wiki Brasileira á Wiki Naruto que Traduz as Informações de Vocês, Como essa wiki é bem melhor eu tiro vantagem já que eles Traduzem eu pego as Informações de lá se vc não Puder ajudar mesmo assim Pelo menos Gostaria de um favor vc Poderia Passar o Link da Minha wiki para Pessoas de sua confiança (Que saibam pelo menos ler e escrever em Português... Valeu cara

Chapter 604
Why Have you deleted the page for the last chapter if is already avaliable on the net?--Barbabianca October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Refs
Initially I used mangareader to add the references, I know that because of the fanart that mangareader and mangastream have been adding to the chapters, the pages would be off, so I thought I accounted for that. When the site I usually use uploaded the chapter to their site (they don't add the fanart and such) I thought it was accurate but apparently they added the cover of the WSJ as page 1, instead of the one with Spiral Zetsu. So they'd still be off by a page, sorry about that.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:30, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Rasengan
hey omni.I realised that the rasengan was not created by the fourth hokage because episode 252 or 253 it was flashbacks of pain's yahiko's and konan's old days jiraya used rasengan and he wasnt training the 4 hokage yet so that info is wrong

My wiki
I would like to ask you a question, since you are well experienced with wikis.

Do you think a wiki like mine is capable of success before the Naruto series ends?

Sorry for my bad English, I use a translator for the internet.-- MaryeShoujo  (Mensagens • Contribs) 16:01, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: File:Sasuke's complete sharingan.png
Even if it's not in the wrong ratio, it's still unnecessary. To me, that image has a widescreen look to it as if it's not square (all images up to Episode 54 in Shippuden should be square for proper ratios) --Speysider Talk Page 22:22, October 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well it might be in good ratio, but since all of the original Naruto episodes were created in the 4:3 aspect ratio and are square, every image for those episodes should be in 4:3 and square. If it's not like this for the original in terms of aspect ratios, then it's in the wrong ratio. And in regards to that EMS file: I simply reverted Droid's bad upload, the bad upload then being deleted from the history. Trust me, I know where to get very high quality images (Crunchyroll 1080p or cropped 1080p images from the DVD's) but I'm not interested in dealing with images here now as we've got a user literally spamming the uploader with unnecessary images that don't need changed. --Speysider Talk Page 22:58, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ummm..
Why was my question on the Ten-Tails page deleted? Zelwolf (talk) 03:42, October 7, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf

Founder
Do you know who created this wiki? Justin Holland (talk) 00:25, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Just want to know how this wiki since it was first put up, if that's ok? Justin Holland (talk) 01:03, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Zelwolf wasn't replying to you. It was TranClan who founded the wiki.~ 01:05, October 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I thought your question was on my thing I typed :3 Zelwolf (talk) 16:38, October 9, 2012 (UTC)Zelwolf

.gifs
This really does feel awkward coming here since I've branded myself inactive, but can you refresh my memory as to why Narutopedia doesn't use .gifs? White Flash (議論 18:00, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just bad quality? Is there any way to turn them into good quality? White Flash (議論 22:41, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Long
Thing is to me, it seems like Naruto's life is a 16-year old hurriance of chaos, misery and despair. He has been nearly killed almost everyday since the moment he was born, way before becoming a ninja, which is already a life being shadowed constantly by death, which i think only amplified the curse of chaos that haunts him to possibly unbelievable levels. I thinks what makes him so cool, that despite the fact that his life is perpetual nightmare he still mangae to stand his ground. I believe the true key to his success in life is his unstoppable will to love. I mean he was born of a powerful bond of love between two great villages: Konoha and Uzshio, who have a particularly strong bond that surpass their own borders, which is his source of power: his unstoppable and unbounded will to love that surpasses all odds and create bonds of love that surpasses all odds. I believe it also why he was so weak at the beginninig, because he didn't have enough love to power himself and once he found some he exploded to amazing levels of power. I feel that it is also the very affinity of his lifeforce, what helps him stay alive, almost literaly from the looks of it. It looked like the reason he was barely able to get by and stay alive literally with almost the entire village hating him was because of his parents' strong love for him, which he was not even aware of, which only weaken it until it regain it full power with his meeting with them, so its practical his very being, his life-support. His will to love is like the sun, which is why I feel that why he is able to get thorough to anyone, because he helps give their dark world-views a sunrise, which is why i would be surprised if he was some sort of ninja of the sun. I also feel that this is why he needs to find a girl who would never under any circumstance or bullshit reason take his ability to love as a joke and instead see it as a seroius reason to be in love with him. Thing is I am a naruhina fan, i mean sakura is okay as a friend but I don't see her as someone who is willing to take his life affinity seriously enough to be with him as a lover. Hinata on the other hand, it looks to me that she is serious about being with him, cause it looks to me that her life also depends on his will to love, which is why I feel that it is their destiny to be together, because in her own special way help support his power, like before his match with Neji, during his fight with Pain, even vouching for him when others was supsicion of him during the war, I really don't think that those are coincedence either. She couldn't even forget him during his three year training period. In fact i feel that she was the whole reason he was able to meet his parents, i repeat i do not think that was just a coincidence. Anyway what do you think of this? Justin Holland (talk) 22:02, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

The shipping wasn't my main concern and I know it isn't everything, I was wondering what you think about the other stuff i said and sorry if I irrated you in anyway. Justin Holland (talk) 23:14, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Boundless Love, it is practically his life support. It's what keeping him from wasting away or becoming a true monster like Sasuke, Orochimaru, even what Gaara was. It also why he can't give up on Sasuke being redeemed under any circumstance, because he the type of guy who dosen't gives on those he sees as family ever. I also believe it is how he is able to get thought to people, give their dark worldly-views a sunrise, like he is a ninja of the sun. How's this? and once again I'm sorry if i irrated you. Justin Holland (talk) 15:56, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much bro...really appreciate it....i'll let u no if i need ur help..once again thanks.Samir96 (talk) 04:58, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Obito's infobox
The page was syops protected, the page figured in the newest chapter and I must have missed or forgotten that only confirmed user could edit infoboxes. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:56, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * What do you mean?~ 06:27, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Jinchuriki Six Paths
My bad, I only noticed your question about the six paths now. Could you give me a chapter number? Seelentau 愛議 21:55, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, the translation of mangareader's version is correct. Is there any specific wording you're looking for? Seelentau 愛議 00:10, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think he's right. You can't take out the eye of an ET, because it would turn to dust and be replaced by the same eye again. The Dōjutsu are a sign of him controlling the Jinchūriki, the same way he did with Kurama and Nagato with the Pain corpses. And yes, there was nothing like 'implantation' mentioned. The splash text uses 装着する, which means 'equipping' or 'installing'. Tobi uses 変える, which simply means 'to change'. Seelentau 愛議 09:07, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Why delete my topic on edo tensei talk page?
Why delete my topic on edo tensei talk page named "Resurrected in the exact state they died in?" can I have a reason? --82.39.201.72 (talk) 19:28, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Request
Hey, Omni-senpai, sorry to bother you, but can you please delete these for me? Template:NinjaSheikSig and User:NinjaSheik/Sig. I'm switching back to my old sig. The template thing isn't working out for me, and I don't know if the Narutopedia allows it.-- Ninja Sheik  22:54, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Omni-senpai. :)-- Ninja Sheik  23:47, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Archive vs ArchiveList
No idea. The tag just lists /Archive_X pages in number format (intended for those pages containing macrons) with  listing every archive page. The best person who would know more about why that happens would probably be Simant or Dantman. Speaking of which, I need to go and update every reference on pages with macrons in the title. --Speysider Talk Page 19:20, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Template
Hello Omnibender. I'm an admin of another wiki, and I wanted to ask you if there is any way I could use some of the Narutopedia Wiki's templates on my wiki. It wouldn't be exactly the same, but tweaked a bit for my wiki and most likely there would be a link linking back to the original template in order to give credit. But I understand if you say no. If you could please answer me back. Thanks. Storm46 (talk) 12:34, October 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks Omnibender. I think I know how to use the templates so that won't be a problem, but if I do I'll ask. And when I copy the templates, I'll make sure to leave credit on the template page on my wiki. Do you just want it to say something like from the naruto wiki or do you want a link back to the page? Storm46 (talk) 21:51, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Spelling list
That day you said that you wanted to see the list of spellings my bot would change. Do you still want it?--~ 07:25, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Character Pictures
Since the wiki has been around for a while you probably have a reason for this, but how come on the characters' profile pictures there isn't both a pre and post-timeskip picture (that you can switch between)? I just thought it would be easier to compare differences in appearance that way, and a similar thing has been done to Obito's page. --Coolquiorra (talk) 20:46, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Black Hunting
He's saying Ranton:ブラックハンティング Ranton: Burakku Hantingu. There could be Kanji involved, as in Black Panther, but I can't just guess them^^ Seelentau 愛議 08:14, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: to Omnibender
Thanks for the welcome message :D Yes, I'll help this community in any way I can ")

Believe it!

- Fornever

What do you think about adding that frog sage to the list of Naruto's mentors? Justin Holland (talk) 02:27, October 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Ameyuri
There's not much talking about her. I could only hear あいつら, when Guy referred to her, but that means they. As far as I know, there's no he/she/it in Japanese. Seelentau 愛議 10:28, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Why did you remove the contents of the article about Itachi?

Obito's Trivia = Protection
Help, please. This is getting out of hand, and I don't want to in a middle of stupid edit ear with that other guy.

EDIT: The page really needs to be locked. Now. I try moving the edit war onto the discussion page, but my attempt fail. Can you please intervene and protect the page so this stupid trivia thing can be handle proerply, Omni-senpai?-- Ninja Sheik  22:45, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Don't listen to her, I kept telling her my reasons over, over ,over, and over but she won't listen at all.--Droidkaju (talk) 00:16, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

And I tried telling you my reason over and over, and you're not listening. Three other users also reverted your edit, one of them being Omni-senpai himself. As an admin, Omni-senpai's duty is to step in to prevent edit wars from continuing further.-- Ninja Sheik  00:19, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm sorry for the trouble, Omni-senpai. :(-- Ninja Sheik  00:24, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I know this seems kinda pointless, but I wanna apologize again for causing some trouble and letting the edit war draw out. Sorry for the trouble, senpai. But I'm glad we resolve it. :) Again, sorry for troubling you.-- Ninja Sheik  01:23, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

So.. is it can or cant travel at the speed of light?--Aeonophic (talk) 22:10, October 21, 2012 (UTC)Aeonophic

Sage Mode Time Limit
So it's confirmed, he hasn't demonstrated maintaining Sage Mode for ten minutes during the war. Thanks for correcting that statement. But if it's possible could you also post that he can only stay in Sage Mode for five minutes? Like how it's stated in the article that he's shown that he could stay in Nine Tails Chakra Mode for most of the morning of the war. I think that's something worth mentioning.--98.109.95.216 (talk) 23:33, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Elvenora says people can learn any release they want, as long as it is'nt advvanced nature, as a kekkei genkai is needed for that. He is saying all ninja can learn any releases they want, and any amount. Is this true?--Aeonophic (talk) 22:46, October 22, 2012 (UTC)Aeonphic

Problem with articles
Hi Omni-kun. Today I come to you for help. My problem is, I can't see new articles when I'm logged in. If I'm not, I can visit them as usual, but whenever I log in, I can't see anything. Do you have any idea what could cause this and what to do against it? Seelentau 愛議 16:35, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * I cleared my cache multiple times already and I'm not using any scripts. This problem only shows up in new articles, it seems. I can visit Rin, for example, but not Wood Release: Wood Dragon. The only thing I remember changing is turning the AJAX function on. I turned it off but it doesn't seem to change anything... weird :/ Seelentau 愛議 22:34, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Pakura Talkpage

 * Can you reply to the Pakura infobox image discussion on her talkpage.--Droidkaju (talk) 00:44, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Non-Canon Geography?
Hey Omni, was replaying Uzumaki Chronicles 2 and realised that it basically has a map and a bunch of locations across it that don't contradict canon, but fill out places within the major nations. Now I know we add articles on places etc. from the anime that aren't canon, but unless it's something big like that one mountain from Dragon Blade Chronicles, I have no idea if we do anything in regard to Game geography. So I wanted to get your opinion on whether it would be worth mentioning these places even on the geography list, or is it just far too unreliable to call worthwhile additions? --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 03:28, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Notification
What's with this weird notification that appears in talk pages? "There are a few potential problems with your edit: ??It looks like you forgot to sign your reply. Use ~ or the signature button from the toolbar to sign".--White Flash (議論 03:38, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

hey you wheres jacce??--Naruto12354 (talk) 22:39, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the help with the pictures, Omni. I am grateful for having approved my page. And I admire you a lot too, for being Brazilian, have a fluent English and know so much about Naruto.

I hope we're going to be good friends ... Or a couple. Haha, just kidding! --Sasameandhaley (talk) 00:11, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Tools page
Why was the page I was editing deleted?

Gammabomb (talk) 00:20, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Possible Sockpuppet
I notice this user and this user have the same username, so you think they're a match?--White Flash (Contact) 01:07, November 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * If I may weigh in, I'd say, after looking at both users you linked, that it is extremely likely that they are the same. It would be extraordinarily odd for two completely different users, with such random usernames, to have exactly the same usernames. I wish it would display their IP addresses in the user rights area so I could confirm a match, but I, alas, cannot, at this point. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Yamagakure Symbol.svg 05:47, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Omni has requested a CheckUser. Be patient until the staff adresses it.—

Re: New Layout
From what I saw this morning, Gaara's article for example, the "background" section didn't start until the end of the infobox and there was a gap between the background section and the table of content, so instead of having to |left |left images beside the infobox, it could go |left |right etc. I don't know whether or not that has changed now.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 01:25, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Some video game translations
Since I still can't see any new articles, I can only help you with the pictures for now. I already send a message to the support, though. Shouldn't there be a character list somewhere? The game's out for a while now, isn't it?

The group's name is „葉“の暗部 "Ha" no Anbu, which literally means "Leaf's" Black Side. I don't know if it refers to the Konoha Anbu, though.

The green girl is called 童芯 Dōshin, it literally means juvenile/child and wick. The girl on the left is 仮?のくノ一. The other names I can't really make out. They're heavily stylized >.< If you can get me a character list, I'll see what I can do, though. Seelentau 愛議 20:12, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

It seems my problem stems from the Monobook skin I used. If I use the new Wikia skin, everything's working. So let's see:


 * „葉“の暗部 "Ha" no Anbu literally means "Leaf's" Dark Side.
 * 自縛眼 Jibakugan literally means Self Bondage Eye, Jibaku is just this
 * 泥人形 Doro Ningyō literally means Mud Doll/Puppet.
 * 童芯 Dōshin literally means Juvenile Wick.
 * 白医 Hakui literally means White Doctor, while 白衣 Hakui describes the white robes doctors are wearing, making this guy's name a pun.
 * 仮面のくノ一 Kamen no Kunoichi literally means Masked Kunoichi. Is there any picture of her real name?
 * 真牙 Shinga literally means True Fang, as you said.
 * 禁術口寄せ・火鼠来来 Kinjutsu Kuchiyose: Kaso Rairai literally means Forbidden Summoning Technique: Fire Mouse Cometh. The last two Kanji could be 来, but I'm not sure. I also don't know if the part before the comma is part of the name or what the second Kanji is. I can't find anything :/
 * 封印術・生動封陣 Fūinjutsu: Seidō Fūjin literally means Sealing Technique: Vitality Seal Formation, but I'm not sure about the last Kanji.

Seelentau 愛議 14:26, November 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * omg, I was so stupid. Of course it's Kinjutsu ^^' If there's anything else I can help you with, please let me know :) Seelentau 愛議 23:44, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Policy reminders
Hi, not sure if you are aware, but there's a template on the wiki which you can use to remind users of policy violations. They are for the first warning and  for the second warning. :) --Speysider Talk Page 21:20, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Block
Sorry to bother you, Omni-senpai, but can you please block this guy? He's a troll from the KH Wiki who came here just because I blocked him for harassing two users. If you this see, his message warrants lifetime ban. Please deal with him quickly, and sorry for bothering you. :(-- Ninja Sheik  23:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Bukijutsu
Hey, what do you think about this page? It was created by a non-registered user, but had substance, so I reworked it, gave it a few references and a picture, and now I believe it could stand on its own. Could you give your take on the talk page? It is a candidate for deletion, though I think it can have the deletion tag removed now, but I'm not going to do that without community consensus at the least, as it would violate policy. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 00:48, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
http://pt.narutovicio.wikia.com/wiki/Especial:Chat por favor, precisamos bater um papo reto, o Eduardo fontes.566 lhe chamou.

...
Just wanted to inform you, I just found this Wiki, created by Mju, he even created a "nice" page about Jacce, I'm surprised he didn't create a page dedicated to us.--White Flash (Contact) 04:50, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Closed. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 22:26, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Fair use license and rationale?
What's that supposed to mean? --X29 12:57, November 3, 2012 (UTC)