Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180727165341/@comment-36006024-20180808200221

Okay so clearly, Obito is very much a controversial character because of plot and inconsistent feats.

At the end of the day, in an all out death match, do you think you think Obito will defeat "unbeatable" 6 Paths of Pain in an all out death match without intel on each other. they're both shrewd shinobi, they both will learn on the go and they both have massive chakra levels and potency.

all i've read so far is an argument about obitos capabilities. but let us not forget whos fighting. this is the same Obito that helped wipe out the entire Uchiha Clan, and gave the 4th Hokage issues, was fast enough to save sasuke from a Jinton from the 3rd Tsuchikage and react to Ayy's speed, and could intimidate kabuto into needing Madara as a bargaining chip.

This is the same 6 paths of pain that forced jiraya to use sage mode and end up killing him, and also destroyed an ENTIRE great village, and even giving the nine tails some issues and kill a rusted Hanzo who was still a very dangerous combatant.

the fight with Jiraya and Pain shows just how much of a difference Intel makes in a fight, where naruto who was still relatively inexperienced compared to Jiraya could defeat pain, because Jiraya did all the work for him.

These are two very strong individuals who have various measures to defeat each other.