User talk:Dantman

Jutsu Infobox
What needs to be done to the jutsu infobox for it to be ready for implementation? Also, is it gonna be manual edits or bot replacing info? Simant (talk) 06:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the first problem i notice is that under type there is only the ability to select one option, whereas i have seen jutsu with defensive and offensive. Simant (talk) 06:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the problem with the range is that it is doing the array map first then the switch. So is the arraymap is just there untill the switch starts to work? so the problem is getting the variable into the switch statement? Simant (talk) 09:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * its working ok.. i just am still seeing the extra commas in front of it and not the text changing to "short to mid". is it my cache or something? Simant (talk) 09:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Another issue is that there appears to only be space for one parent jutsu, when some game jutsu's and harem technique have multiple parents, shadow clone and transformation. Simant (talk) 02:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

And when the infobox is being used in a artical, the "Shippūden" section code is written without the line over u, making all jutsus first appear in Shippūden. Jacce | Talk 16:44, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

You are probably right, all I meant was that when not choosing "Debuted in Shippuden", the box still said that it first appeared in Shippuden. Jacce | Talk 18:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Something bugged up somewhere.. causing justu range after being inputted to be listed as uses kekkai genkai after using the formedit.Simant (talk) 21:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Article of the month/week
Hi. I dunno if it is ok to compare with other Wikies, but I'll take my chances and do it. On Bleach wiki, on their main page they have an Article of the Month (which we could turn into article of the week or smth) for characters (but we could do it for jutsu, places etc as well). I dunno how the system works to create such a thing, but it would be nice to have it for newcomers who do not know what to search for first. - MadaraU (talk) 07:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Now that you mentioned it, the random page feature does kind of render the article of the week feature useless. Thanks for the quick reply. - MadaraU (talk) 08:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The Chap Is Out
Can we unlock the Fifth Mizukage article now?Saimaroimaru (talk) 07:27, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Thanks for the info :) I like the jutsu icons that are on the new infobox, but i don't like them actually being in the info box. looks kind of weird to have all text in the infobox (other than the pic) and then have the release type icon and have it increasing the height of that row.  Just a suggestion.

Missing image
I know that the character infobox is tagged synced across multiple wikia; but I was wondering anyways if we could add the same Maintenance: Missing image tags to it like we have for the jutsu and episode infobox; Also perhaps a maintenance for missing translations to help ShounenSuki‎ (and others?) out. Simant (talk) 18:28, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

O-Parts Hunter Wiki
Is there in discussion a wiki for 666 Satan (O-Parts Hunter) Manga? I am asking it because I know you are not resuming solely to Narutopedia and I've seen on your info page that you are currently reading it. - MadaraU (talk) 20:36, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is referred to as 666 Satan in Japan because the story pretty much revolves around this dude:)) I would never read the english volumes because judging from the very name of the manga (in the english version), it is heavily censored. Then again... I cannot read the Raw manga because I am no jap speaker/reader. I was left with only one option: to read the scanlations... AND BOY WAS THAT HARD!!! (read further to see why) You asked me if I would be interested in editing it. Hell yeah I would be, but having only the scanlations at my disposal would not make it a professional work (SOME SCANLATIONS ARE SO BAD that I am still wondering if I caught the full spirit of the manga - which is awesome by the way). If we were to be more who would work on the project (some of which could read raws as well) then something good (like Narutopedia) would come out of it. Anyways, if we were to revive the 666 Satan (Yes I would prefer this name more:P) Wiki we would have to correspond through mails or yahoo messenger (the talk style on wiki is mendokusai :) ) BTW I have not understood the last part of your message: B. Ichi. (is it a crypted reference to Bleach :)) ? ). - MadaraU (talk) 06:58, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll see what I can do. - MadaraU (talk) 07:55, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am waiting on you then. - MadaraU (talk) 08:57, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Good Job. I'll try to make an article for Jio once I get home from work. - MadaraU (talk) 15:43, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler Warning message
Just wondering since it seems out of place, did you want the spoiler warning to appear here on Special:SpecialPages? Simant (talk) 19:42, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * Spoiler warning though should appear on this specialpage. Special:CreatePage :\ Simant (talk) 05:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Rollback
Hmm, I've seen you on a couple of other Wikis before, so I'll direct my questions to you. Is there a list of administrators and policies on this Wiki? Also, isn't rollback meant solely for the reverting of vandalism and not a tool to make quick edits? Thanks. Calebchiam Talk 07:00, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there a process to select administrators? I noticed that Charitwo (a user that I know) is a sysop with 189 edits. Also, are there any behavioural policies, like a user treatment policy of sorts? I hope I'm not annoying you with all these questions ^^. Calebchiam Talk 07:21, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mm, that makes sense. Probably cuts down on a lot of the Wikidrama as well. Calebchiam Talk 10:09, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Logo
Hi. I am Kalit - admin polish Narutopedi and I have a question. Can I use Your logo the site ?

PS. My English is very bad ;]

Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms
Hello Dantman,

I am Ten Tailed Fox (talk), a regular visitor to this wiki, as well as an administrator on both Naruto Fanon Wiki and Bleach Fan Fiction Wiki. I have just sent a request to Wikia to ask them to activate Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms, so that we can set up a template, similar to how you here at Naruto Wiki did with your jutsu. The staff I spoke to at Wikia referred me to you. Can you possibly explain to me how to set up both Semantic MediaWikia and Semantic Forms?

Thank you for your time,

Ten Tailed Fox (talk) 21:49, October 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will contact you if I have any questions. Ten Tailed Fox (talk) 17:04, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Akatsuki memebers' rings
I noticed that in the jutsu infobox the elemental natures' icons were scaled enough to be put inside the infobox. I was wondering if such a thing could be done with the Akatsuki rings and be put for each member inside their character box (or how it is called). I am guessing that first of all the pictures of the rings (or just the kanji on a circle colored with the color of the respective ring) ought to be drawn. Then again it could be said that it is not that important seeing as only a handful of people wore such rings, most of the ones who wore them are dead while the rings are not worn by anyone anymore, but then again the rings are an important part of what Akatsuki is (otherwise Zetsu would not have been sent to recover them). Perhaps the rings will play a bigger role in the future. Waiting on your opinion on this, Dantman. - MadaraU (talk) 06:41, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, tks for the answer. If only I'd had more time, I would draw the svg's myself :-< - MadaraU (talk) 09:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu media
I modified the Template:Infobox/Jutsu so that if there is a debut in anime/manga, it will list it as jutsu media in that field. Now since semantics seems to need to be updated manually for each page, I was hoping you could send a bot to do null edits to all the jutsu pages, so they would update. Simant (talk) 01:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * *shrug* I just didn't see any cases where that wouldn't be true; Unless someone knows it debuted in anime and forgot which episode. But I guess we can go through and manually tag them all... Simant (talk) 02:26, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
Our wikia has received the upgrades, but we still need a working infobox to go with it. I tried to replicate the one that is used here, however, for some reason it would not work. I need your assistance in creating a working, character and jutsu infobox that will work with the new upgrade. ~ NOTASTAFF Ryun Uchiha (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou) (talk) 02:37, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hahaha I know what you mean. Thank you for the link. ~ NOTASTAFF Ryun Uchiha (Ten Tailed Fox, Getsueikirite-taichou) (talk) 15:04, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Volumes
Converting Volumes to be semantic compatible. see Template:Infobox/Naruto/Volume and Form:Volume, do changes as you see fit. Simant (talk) 02:15, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking of creating a new property:Volume number, but why not just change Property:Episode number -> Property:Release number, and have it work for both. Simant (talk) 15:56, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * K, then should I just create the new property:Volume number? or deal with it later. Simant (talk) 16:00, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * !! giving me issues on Hokage vs. Hokage!!, not displaying one of the !, and nowiki gives me more problems... probably because #set:&lt;nowiki&gt; ... Simant (talk) 17:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar
Here: MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar; Change: Plot -> Series. Simant (talk) 18:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Snapper2
I dont like him, good job deleting him.

Ninja rank
"This is getting tiresome, Village Head was never stated to be a Ninja Rank" -It is a rank, that ninja from multiple villages have. Is it necessary for it to be on a chart to include when we have multiple examples of it? It makes sense to be there. ZeroSD (talk) 10:48, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know...
...i only said what i said because he harassed my friend by calling her a coward. i was making it even.

About the Giant Ram/Bull
I have modified everywhere in the Giant Ram's page to make it correct that it is a Bull, but I cannot correct the title of the page to make it Giant Bull. If you could... thanks. Also at species I've put cattle given that the bull is a male cattle. - MadaraU (talk) 08:55, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Redirect
I was wondering what you thought about protecting soft redirects, since it breaks the semantic system pretty bad when messed up, at least so only registered users can edit them. Simant (talk) 22:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, it would be nice if Uzumaki Naruto! could be a redirect and have the semantic properties at the same time. since i'm linking the debut's to the episode/manga title in the character infobox. Simant (talk) 23:11, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Primary jutsus
I think the section "primary jutsu" should be added to the characters' info box. I would suggest putting it maybe under the nature manipulation and above the list of known jutsus. I'm suggesting this because in the english manga (maybe also in the japanese) there is sometimes a page at the end with a naruto character on it. This page lists a few facts about the character. I have only read 2 pages like this and the only way I can find them is by buying mangas. I would rather read this info on the internet. So maybe everyone with a copy of any english naruto manga with a character fact sheet can contribute to this site.

Zatch Bell Wiki
As one of the main creator of wikis you can understand the importance of reliable information. So Im asking, with your help, I'm wondering if you can get Zatch Bell wiki back up to date.The current admin isnt doing much and so far im appalled at the effort put into the wiki. Being one of my more favored shounen I expected work to be picked up quickly on it.That has yet come to pass, so with your help im hoping we can get something done despite my lack of knowldge on how to use a wiki.

Family Tree
How far along the family tree do you want the infobox to list characters relations? Simant (talk) 20:18, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i made the generations for the family tree go from grandparent to grandchild. It still needs to remove duplicate entries, since it displays children from both parents. Also a few bugs still such as displaying a extra line when Hiashi/Hizashi; Also for some reason Neji adds an extra line to the bottom that is a broken link... I might add a function to check the ages between character for younger/older siblings, twins, and such. Also, this family tree, and jutsu need to be sorted, preferably while in string format separated by commas, not sure how to do that on mediawiki, hoping you could tell me how to do the sort. Simant (talk) 01:16, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope can't do that since its set up so they contain multiple queries. Simant (talk) 01:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps install this Sort Extension? Simant (talk) 01:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I suppose i could do it a horribly ugly way by using lots of OR statements in an ask statement. -.- Simant (talk) 02:04, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Then again.. I'd probally have to seperate the manga only, anime only, from the normal jutsu list if i did it that way. Is that ok? Simant (talk) 02:06, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Advanced Templates
Um, well i was thinking since we were not going to have any of Species next to Summoning technique since the list would be automatically generated. We needed a space for affinity, and I figured why not use the space system as for media. But That edit was to separate the two, so that the word "only" would not appear when you typed something like Naruto Uzimaki~Toads It would Just show (Toads). Simant (talk) 20:10, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought I suppose it is kinda useless (right now) since we don't need the word "only" in there, but when we do the semantic properties it may be useful to differentiate the two. Simant (talk) 20:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah, okay, got the part about the whitespace. But I'm not sure how to handle the switch without the ifeq statement. Simant (talk) 20:35, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I cleaned it up. Btw, was wondering how we were gonna handle semantic properties of characters that used jutsu in only one media, with other jutsu users in other media. Only way I could think of (without giving myself a headache) was making separate media properties for each user field such as Anime Users::Manga Users:: . and then doing combined searches with ask query. Simant (talk) 03:40, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was wondering if we could have the min/max chapters in a volume displayed like it was here but still using the inline query. I'm guessing you would have to do something with format=template, and stuff, but i'm not sure of the code to return min/max values from the property manga chapters (property not made yet). Simant (talk) 20:03, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure nothing skips in volumes, unlike in anime episodes, they should all be in order. (I would hope at least) ill take a quick look through them all and check, then if so, i'll start changing. Would you mind setting up the form, while im looking? Simant (talk) 21:30, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Do you know of a way to pass a variable such as name through an ask query to the template:sandbox? Simant (talk) 21:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well if thats the case I may have to remove the user property all together to get the search to work, and have them all divided up into Properties such as, User Manga, User Anime, User Movie, User Game. Simant (talk) 01:07, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I can easily move them back, inside the infobox. Is it ok to keep the icons for the hiden jutsu, and the kekkei genkai as well inside the infobox? Simant (talk) 16:51, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, how do you feel about kekkei genkai that are also chakra nature, picture for both, or just one. Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi. Simant (talk) 17:32, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i had an ask query before to eliminate the extra one in the titleicons, but removed it when transfering. Simant (talk) 17:35, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I almost got the infobox jutsu search working for users. User:Simant/Sandbox 2, just gotta get rid of those line breaks, and do a sort, then do same thing that is done on jutsu pages with (anime only) etc. Though i'm not sure how to get rid of the line breaks, or if sort will work with them in there. Simant (talk) 18:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if you had any insight why there are 23 extra non-visible characters in front of the frist, and after the last lines in the code

from Template:Infobox/Naruto/Character, they only display as off (at the beginning) and on (at the end), and only if the code is put into a link. Its kinda serious perturbing... Simant (talk) 18:21, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured it out for some reason there was SMW::off at the front of the text, and SMW::on at the end... now that i know what the exact values are i think i can just trim them off. this is probably a bug that should be reported... Simant (talk) 18:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Quick question why doesn't this:

Return no results. Simant (talk) 00:50, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * So.. any ideas? Clearly I am missing something obvious about the syntax of the above query statement. Also, I decided I am gonna either:
 * A. Do a sort using string functions and switch statement. OR
 * B. Give up on trying to sort. And.
 * 1. Wait till someone makes a php sort that is acceptable. Simant (talk) 20:51, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well uh... first off family. Maybe I overcomplicated it, but I didn't see a simple way to do it with a single ask query. Data from family is set up to come back this way:

Hyuga Elder~Grandfather, Hiashi Hyuga~Father, Hanabi Hyuga~Sister, Hizashi Hyuga~Uncle, Neji Hyuga~Cousin Data from jutsu comes back basically the same way, and since I separated single media specific jutsu users from the user parameter, It can't really be combined easily or possibly at all. Simant (talk) 21:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC) Simant (talk) 21:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I will try to do a bubble sort with two arraymaps using the string function... It would look too ugly if there were sections for only one result. By the way is Extension:ArrayExtension installed? Simant (talk) 21:25, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * This looks like what needs to be done. Help:ArrayExtension - Alter an Array Simant (talk) 21:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure by what you mean I did something wrong with the way I got the results of a Characters Jutsu/family. Since I couldn't pass variables into the query:

Simant (talk) 18:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) For the Jutsu with one user only in a media, I instead appended the variable to the front of the results. Which makes the two queries separate and unable to do a sort together using the query sort feature.
 * 2) For the families. Did you want me to make a separate property for each relation? Otherwise if only using the parent property, special cases like godfather would have to be handled without the ask query which also can't be sorted using a single query. It could probably be made into a single query if each page had properties for each relationship, but then making it tag (such as Minato Namikaze (Father)) the type of relationship would be difficult if at all possible.

Character Age
I have been wondering why we are listing character age throughout a specify part in the series rather then just their age at debut. I don't think we have any cases of characters who stop aging (chronologically at least; otherwise maybe madara... but doesn't matter). This is disrupting my ability to create Template:CharacterAge, properly. Simant (talk) 22:23, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Don't you remember?
I'm the very same 24.161.123.15.I don't have a user name because I can't think of one.How come you or your system keep forgetting who I am?21:33, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Rasengan
Super Great Ball Rasengan did not appear in the Infobox of the article. Please fix it. Oh and Jacce told me to talk to you. Dekoshu talk contrib 16:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC) I meant on the derived jutsu. Dekoshu talk contrib 20:04, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

question about the caution symbol next to age


how do i get the caution symbol next to deceased? this is my talk page http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi (sorry - - ~ ~ ~ ~ doesn't work)
 * by the new infobox: do u mean this... or another one. Because i like the current infoboxes. And I have been trying to get that model for the longest and when i typed in Template:Infobox ill copy and paste fill in the right parameters and it will look like that.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi
 * that infobox is the new infobox on the new wikis created in late 2008 to current. I think I have an idea. Change my style to Wikipedia. I think that might be able to work. Sadly, my view on Narutopedia will be wikipedia... oh well. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi
 * I meant my wiki... that i'm doing. Narutopedia will always be in its current style the style i like. I'm thinking of using Narutopedia's infoxboxes. But its only a test. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KiumaruHamachi

Background
How did you get that background on the Wiki?--

Oh Merciful Titans, Launchballer
Please tell me there is a good reason for all those random templates.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 12:18, November 7, 2009 (UTC) They are required for my burger to function properly.-- 13:32, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. Thank not seeing a reason. Gettin mah axe.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 13:46, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Ask Query Comparators
Is the ! comparator available on this wiki with the current settings? Simant (talk) 21:08, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, when you have the time/desire, could you show me a working ask query with the ! in it, since apparently the way i'm using it fails to get the results properly. Simant (talk) 01:46, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say this User:Simant/Sandbox 2 is pretty conclusive that the ! operator is disabled. Simant (talk) 16:40, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thanks for greeting me to the site. I am a mad fanatic of the Naruto franchise, I can even say I'm addicted to it! It would be a honour to contribute. Narutopedia and are my almost only Naruto information resources (but I gotta confess my favourite is Narutopedia). I'm working on a project at, so if you wanna check out here's the link to my User page:

Spam
Apparently user: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.63.255.139 decided to create some spam on this thinking because he not registered we can't stop him. Here is the junk page he made: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Naruto_took_a_dump_on_dadSaimaroimaru (talk) 00:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind it was taken care of.Saimaroimaru (talk) 00:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Opinion
Currently Template:CharacterJutsu, works, but it is a bit messy, opinion, comments, cleaning ideas? Simant (talk) 17:56, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Sorry about the messy animation article - I figured the black background would be a lot easier on the eyes, but I guess it turned out kind of ugly. I'm new to this so I'm not really familiar with much of the code. If you know of a better way to format it than the basic table, I wouldn't mind redoing the whole thing.

Insane111 (talk) 20:58, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Do I have a policy-grounded reason to be annoyed?
If you look at the uploads Xandotablets has done (Special:Contributions/Xandotablets), he has uploaded several anime images over the original manga images instead of uploading them in new files. TheUlitmate3 and I aren't agreeing on the legallity of this (Conversation: User_talk:TheUltimate3, User_talk:Hakinu). Could you give your voice in the matter? Thanks, ~Hakinu (talk 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * Basically to chime my reasoning in, I see this case as a loophole in the Policy.


 * Teh Loophole: In the same vain where a Scanlation image is replaced with a RAW image, an manga image can be replaced by a Anime image, as long as that image is exactly the same as the manga image it was replacing.
 * For example: The now defunct picture of Madara Uchiha's Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan image, it was replaced with the direct anime version of the image. Using the above loophole, the image could be changed with no problem.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:09, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

There's no loophole, that's just wikilawyering. "same image" in the policy refers to the precise same image, there can be no difference in where it came from. The reason that the policy is in place is because MW's history does not keep page text organized with the relevant version of the image. Thus if you upload an image covered under a different fair use rationale it messes up the page history because it's hard to separate what rationale was used for what image. Thus the spirit of the policy is "Don't upload an image over any image unless the images are covered by the exact same rationale."; Thus you can't upload images of different people (voids the description), you can't upload an anime image over a manga image (voids the source), you can't use an image from a chapter/episode/page/scene which is different than the original's (also voids the source). The purpose, resolution, and "replaceable?" fields don't really matter though. So yes, any of Xandotablets re-uploads that upload a anime image over a manga image should be reverted. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 19, 2009 @ 20:08 (UTC)
 * I have another question, for images from episodes, is the fair use rationale valid if the episode number is missing? Simant (talk) 20:46, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you want them to be tagged if they don't have the episode number? is there a template already? Simant (talk) 23:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh so I was Wikilaywering. Hm, I prefer to call it a Loophole >.> Alright then. Let's get er done.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:50, November 19, 2009 (UTC)