Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33390047-20171219070722/@comment-33390047-20171219161146

@Vladosaurus

Yeah madara when he was alive had vast chakra reserves, but edo madara with infinite chakra is a whole different guy. As an edo he doesn't have to worry about chakra lasting a whole battle. Immediately he summoned those two meteors he would have already used up a significant chunk of his chakra(and died himself). He then goes on constantly using susanoo and using the deva paths powers here and there. He also spams moukton and performs deep forest emergence and bloom. Like do you know how draining moukton is, Yamato makes a couple houses and is drained, madara creates two forests worth.

He perfect susanoo is a problem, but Mei van use lava and acid to melt it, Ay and tsunade can dent it, oohnoki can use his particle style and can also fly, gaara can use his sand to get him out and can fly with his sand. There's just so many ways to deal with PS and there's nothing else Ems madara can do that will give all 5 kage put together as hard a time.

Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: so, if each kage was around kcm Naruto in power and such (so, 5xKCM Naruto, to be exact), and each of those naruto's (aka kages) was barely able to keep up with 1 (yes, one) weakened, held back, vr2, edo jinchurki, then they wont survive against a guy who has about 4 times (madara has full kurama, so 2 times stronger than km Naruto, and his PS was in same power range, that's basically having 2 full kuramas at his side) the power of km Naruto (base bm Naruto was around stronger than a big ass, full bijuu, but when he went kurama mode, he was fighting against 4 at the same time. the numbers are there. now find the answer

When you say 'vr2 edo jinchuruki' it sounds like you're referring to the hokage vs juubito which doesn't make sense since first off I'm talking about the five kage that fought edo madara and secondly hashirama alone would take Ems madara. Also I stated that no kyuubi, so just Ems madara versus the five kage( and by your estimates ps = one Kurama), this madara also has limited chakra so perfect susanoo won't hold forever ( even sasuke couldn't hold up a perfect susanoo a whole battle, and this is after absorbing the bijuu chakra). If you use a perfect susanoo you have to end things relatively quick cause you're draining chakra. And lastly kabuto's edo tenseis were at full power more or less, in fact he expressly stated he tweaked madara's body to be even > 100%. The only remarks madara made after he was rinne rebirthed was that he could finally feel his blood pumping and all that, nothing about now being stronger. So you can't even compare any version of madara in the war to Ems madara