Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-45903789-20200817181926

David Kibasennin wrote: I'm going with what we see.

Someone gave the example of DBZ.

If there's a planet-busting character there, the cast reacts to it as if it were, the camera and background do so too. The impact of the attack is portrayed as powerful enough to bust a planet. Like, when a Kamehameha of that magnitude is unleashed, everything in that area is destroyed. When Beerus punches someone, the people around him are knocked back, etc etc


 * Instead, in both fights with Kinshiki, whenever Kinshiki misses/Sasuke dodges Kinshiki's strike to kill... it just makes some rocks fly all over the place, instead of the ground splitting in tow for miles on end.
 * Their fight in the castle doesn't total it, it's still left standing afterwards.
 * And later, in the other dimension, when he punches Sasuke it just makes a crater in the God tree, instead of making a full-on Sasuke-shaped hole.
 * When he cuts the Mizukage, he doesn't split him in two, he just wounds him as any other blade-wielding shinobi would.
 * Yes, he splits the God tree... Naruto split one that was much larger. Also is that canon? It only happens in the movie.

The ground around Kinshiki pretty much stays the same apart from the occasional small crater. Nobody around Kinshiki goes "nani?!" or reacts to how "immensely powerful he is", "oh my god", "so this is the level of the gods...?!", "we are doomed", "it's all over". The camera doesn't shake, the impact of his blows doesn't resound through the air.

If he was indeed planet-busting, wouldn't they make it look so, visually?

Especially because in the last Naruto-Sasuke fight, both weaker than or about as strong as Kinshiki, in theory, every blow they make does damage to their entire environment. When Sasuke cuts Naruto and Naruto dodges, the ground behind him BLOWS UP, it isn't slightly splintered. When their attacks clash, the effects are heard on the other side of the continent. They're splitting mountains, ravaging the ground they stand on.

Clearly, the franchise isn't beyond showing this level of destruction, visually.

So why not show it in the fights with Kinshiki? The character is planet-busting, right? Surely he warrants it.

Or maybe, and hear me out.

It's just something that was tacked on in a databook to make him look tougher than 'the guy who is taken out by Sasuke with one chidori and a combo between the Tsuchikage-Mizukage'. I just rewatched both the movie and TV versions, re-read the manga: he gets subdued pretty easily, all things considered.

Like, against Kaguya, even Toneri? They had to go all out to get those bastards. Momoshiki is blowing stuff left and right. Kinshiki... Kinshiki is just punching stuff or cutting it with his axe.

If you're telling me he's planet-busting then... where's the planet-busting visuals?

Because from what I've seen, the amount of wanton destruction kinshiki is capable of is pretty much the same as what Sakura does when she punches the ground. Maybe less.

Like I said in my previous comment, Area of Effect does not always reflect the energy output of attacks because there are different types of attack. Naruto's durability casually blocking Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion that cut the moon in half, which has an energy output of 280+ exatons of tnt (yes, people calculated it) or just small planet level attack, with one hand is an example of Area of Effect not being reflected. We didnt see nuclear bombs go off on Naruto's immediate area when he got hit.