Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-44142243-20200416151624/@comment-6769189-20200422095909

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: LegionZero wrote: I am saying Zetsu himself didnt have an understanding of the sword until he saw it in action AHHHAHAHAHAHA. Clearly not dude...nice try tho. Nice try at what? The text clearly shows him being confused and then drawing conclusion based on what he saw and not spouting facts from prior knowledge

"No wonder" is not a phrase used to preface a known fact

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

UltimaDude wrote: Think for a second: How does the blade supposedly lacking any physical form have anything to do with people finding it when Itachi was able to find it himself? The problem here is that you're still subjected to thinking that Itachi found it and not unlocked it. It's the same coin but you're refusing to see my side of it. Zetsu's statement would explain why Itachi himself wouldn't' be able to find it, as he would also fall under "no one". Considering you are taking Zetsu's statement as fact based on his prior knowledge, there is no reason to believe its not a findable object. It actually explicitly states that it can be looked after and found

Also, Zetsu said "no one's been able to find it" not "no one could have found it" or "it is impossible to find find it". Or that "it cant be found, only unlocked"

Nothing says it was something to unlock, its not even suggested. If it was, Orochimaru would have been looking for DNA since that is the only way to "unlock" abilities tied to a single person or bloodline. Even Orochimaru was able to come to the conclusion that Rinnegan could be unlocked by the union of Uchiha and Senju. Considering how little was known of the Rinnegan, Orochimaru should have been able to conclude that TB was some kind of exclusive.

Your argument is based on 2 flawed premises, the 2 of which together create a contradiction
 * Premise 1: Zetsu knows the truth about the sword... even though his monologue suggests otherwise.


 * Premise 2: That is TB is an unlockable, even though that wasnt even so much as hinted at


 * Contradiction: Zetsu cant know the truth of the sword but not know that it is unlockable and not findable. On the other hand, TB cant be unlockable if our "exposition character" says it is findable