Forum:Community Adoption Request

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Vote for a new crat here!
Use this section to vote for a new bureaucrat. --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:19, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Community Adoption Request - Discussion
It's up at w:Forum:AR:Adoption_request_for_Narutopedia_Wiki. I didn't see it linked here, but figured anybody participating in this thread may wish to review it as so far 3 people have posted there. +Yc 06:14, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry no one so far notified the entire wiki. Speysider wants to adopt the wiki because Dantman is inactive. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 06:21, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * That is... really... rude? — S im A nt 06:30, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I dont think he wants to do that, but Just make any admin, a bureacrat (Atleast I want that) —¤ S @lil ¤ Uchiha Symbol.svg (T@lk) 06:34, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Simant: What do you mean? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 07:29, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Simant: How is it rude ? Also, the two known bureaucrats have absolutely no involvement with this wiki. --Speysider (Talk Page) 07:30, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well thats not the purpose of the adoption request on the community wiki.. that is for inactive wikis or wikis with no sysop. If a bureaucrat is needed a sysop can simply request via special:contact a promotion with a link to community consensus. There is no chance of them assigning a bureaucrat like that for one of their 10 ten bread earners. — S im A nt 07:32, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Speysider: Before you start to accuse others about being unjustified in their reaction to this, you should (re-)read the guidelines for making such a request, in particular those concerned with wiki (in)activity. Even if you managed to somehow err over these very clear rules, common sense at least should have dictated that it was unwise to completely circumvent all of the admins on this, so don't be surprised by any of the potential backlash you could receive. Blackstar1 (talk) 08:05, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Blackstar1 It honestly doesn't matter what insults get thrown at me, I've gotten used to it by now. As far as I can tell from Wikia policy, there has to be active bureaucrats and since the only two known ones are not active, the wiki becomes available for adoption. --Speysider (Talk Page) 08:38, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * If they won't give the powers to Speysider then it would be given to other admins. This is actually did for the good of the wiki. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 08:48, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Speysider: That isn't the case and personally, I feel the Adoption Request article makes that very clear:
 * "This page is where you can request administrator and/or bureaucrat rights on wikis without an active admin and/or bureaucrat team." (first line of article)
 * "Is the wiki inactive? No sustained editing by other users. If there are other users please start a blog post or other public discussion of new leadership before making your request and allow users at least a week to respond." (first guideline)
 * @IndxcvNovelist: I'm not in any way debating the benefits of having an active bureaucrat, but I don't believe Speysider shared your intentions when he made this request and even if he did, this certainly wasn't the correct way to go about it. As I've indicated above there is a clear procedure to such a matter and informing the community beforehand, let alone the admins (who this directly concerns), is an extremely important part of this process. Blackstar1 (talk) 09:11, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyone mind telling me how I put my name for the Adoption thing?--TheUltimate3 Uzumaki Symbol.svg (talk) 10:01, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @TU3: I think u should use Special:Contact—¤ S @lil ¤ Uchiha Symbol.svg (T@lk) 10:03, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well that solves one issue. Now how do we deal with the current adoption request that is technically illegal (heh), because none of the wiki's current and active admins were notified about it.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:07, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Blackstar1 + @TU3 If Wikia staff think it's against the rules, they will deny it and do it privately. You don't need to waste your time preaching rules I am already aware of. --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:09, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Was not preaching any rules. And since we do apparently need a bureaucrat we probably do need a voting on who should be chosen for the task.--TheUltimate3 Uzumaki Symbol.svg (talk) 10:12, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * The "rule preaching" was directed to Blackstar1, I failed to edit :(
 * I'll go for Jacce, Simant or Omnibender since they have a heck of a lot of edits. --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:13, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Since I'm not really that civil, I think I'll refrain from posting my previous message. I'm for the voting in of another bureaucrat if it's necessary that we have one. However, I don't think it should be left open to the entire community. The Administrative team: Sysops and the rollback users we have etc should make that decision amongst themselves. Or just go with seniority.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:17, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cerez, according to wikia policy, it has to be done by the community. No crats will be appointed without community approval. --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:19, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree Cerez. Probably the path of most order if the sysop and rollbackers decide. Limits the pool of voters to those with some sort of administrative ability.--TheUltimate3 Uzumaki Symbol.svg (talk) 10:20, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

But the wiki policy is clear —¤ S @lil ¤ (T@lk) 10:25, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure we'll all be fine with whomever they chose Speysider. It's not as if we don't know the users. The rest of us can squabble about it one they choose a candidate. Heh, this is just like choosing a Hokage- Sandaime Bureaucrat Candidate→ then the regular forces can give their opinions.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 10:27, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know lol, but on another wiki I had to physically recommend someone for bureaucrat before it could be given. Hence, the whole community must be in agreement to the promotion. No point promoting someone that people aren't sure about --Speysider (Talk Page) 10:29, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right about that last part. However, my opion's been stated and I stand by them making the decision. I have faith in the Admin team. Would be even better if Dan popped round as well.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 10:32, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * And the entire Wiki will have their say, when a list of suitable candidates are produced. Otherwise wise we can end up with the issue where the wrong users can be chosen. Users with administrative power who edit regularly is myself, Omnibender, Jacce, Deva, and Simant. I wanted to give Cerez power months ago, but I couldn't >.> and then he seemed to be able to handle any issue he came across without powers. Other than these six people, I don't believe nobody else is qualified to administrate this wiki.--TheUltimate3 Uzumaki Symbol.svg (talk) 10:36, May 21, 2012 (UTC)