Board Thread:Wiki Discussions and Support/@comment-5407586-20141206094948/@comment-1207741-20141209064750

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: As Suzaku pointed out earlier, up until a few days ago, this site had the names of all of the movies wrong too. The arc names need to be dealt with in a similar fashion. The movies were 1:1 moves; there wasn't much to dispute, unless you felt the numbers belonged in the titles somehow. In the same way I said 1:1 arcs should be moved also.

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: Saying that we can change around arcs because it is just a way of organizing content is like saying I can change the name of chapters and merge them together any which way I want because the content "works better" that way. I don't know if that's the best analogy. Because what convenience would that create? Maybe moving all chapter pages to "Chapter #" to facilitate searches.

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: Currently, we're basically advertising that our arcs are how the series is divided up No we don't. The lead paragraph of all arc pages (or at least Part II arcs) lists a number of official arc titles. Cases where we chose not to act on Kishimoto's divisions would be documented in the same way.

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: Kishi is flat out saying, "No, its divided up this way." Authors have a right to do that, seeing as they write the story and arcs have a purpose to the story (take it from me, they have a purpose). Fans, on the other hand, do not. Again, in the real world, authors do not reign supreme over their material. They bow to external forces for matters of feasibility and content all the time. And the fandom can be and is as choosy with the material as it wishes to be. If our corner of the fandom does not want to abide Kishimoto on the subject of three arcs because there's concerns of practicality and necessity, so we may.

(To add to my earlier concerns, I notice Kishimoto's version of Invasion of Pain starts in the middle of Sasuke v B, which makes no sense. You could entertain the idea that's a mistake and ignore it, but if you wish to believe Kishimoto has out-of-universe infallibility that's not acceptable and must be followed regardless.)

The third databook lists the three hunting Itachi arcs as only one arc. As that isn't the case anymore, Kishimoto is clearly just as volatile with his arcs divisions as we are.

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: We have been presenting information, apparently knowingly, given your responses, wrong for years. And now we're saying, "Hey! Our way is better of organizing this story is better than the author's, so **** you, Kishi." We're not now saying it; we've been saying. And we're not telling him to fuck off; we're acknowledging his reasons but potentially deciding that, for our purposes, it isn't practical.

Would you also insist "arc" be removed from the page titles, since Kishimoto uses "mission" in most cases?

Ten Tailed Fox wrote: I won't let this die until it is changed. That's final. What you are proposing and trying to do is wrong. Change it. I'm interested in your response regarding the anime episode numbering. It seems very similar, perhaps even more meaningful to me.