Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-31338621-20190501030435/@comment-9782468-20190502230040

YD.Ann wrote: Bro what...pls explain Well, a couple indicators.

One, Itachi himself and Kishimotos databooks imply that Itachi and Jiraiya were approximately equals (Itachi's words, Kishimoto's stats, etc.). And Jiraiya notes Minato as unsurpassed and above himself.

Another is that one fact that Itachi had the second highest academy scores in history behind Minato.

Both of these are indicators that Minato is above Itachi, but given the feats I'd personally put them closer to equal.

@Flatzone, Why don't you think he'd get much stronger? Most SHinobi grow in power and jutsu variety/mastery until their late 30s. Minato was mid 20s, he's probably be much stronger.

Prime Hiruzen is super featless, so using him as a bar for Minato to pass (or fail to pass) still leaves ambiguity. We have one statement about Hiruzen's prowess being that he was the strongest Hokage in history; however, that seems to have been retconned later in Part 2 when it was noted that people simply forgot how powerful Hashirama and Madara really were.

Obviously, that statement can be used against Minato since MInato was a recent Hokage. We can assume Prime Hiruzen is above 24 y old Minato. But prime vs prime? Neither have any showings in the area, so it's really hard to gauge.

Prime Nagato is easier; full use of his legs and vitality back, even as an Edo Tensei he was messing people up, so I think I agree with you on that one. I think Nagato was never recognized as God of Shinobi only because he was kind of hidden from the world, and he summoned Gedo Mazo and became crippled before really growing in fame and whatnot.