Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-32624156-20170721153715/@comment-25122992-20170729183648

UltimaDude wrote: No, he did not. You are grasping at straws. The situation between Asura/Indra still parallels to the situation between Naruto/Sasuke. In the case of Asura/Indra, Hagoromo gave the former power (authority) to lead Ninshuu. This results in the sons fighting. In the case of Naruto/Sasuke, Hagoromo gave the duo power (SPS and the Rinnegan) to battle a world-ending threat. This results in the reincarnations of the sons fighting. How is this not parallelism? I'm not grasping straws at all, that's literally the comparison Hagoromo made: "When I gave the power to one, it arose conflict, but even this time, when I gave power to both, the outcome remained the same". You just don't want to stick to Hagoromo's actual words. If it was actually autority instead of power as well, he would've mentioned that in words. And again, then the sutuation between Asura/Indra and Naruto/Sasuke wouldn't be comparable at all, if it was the authority in one case and a real power in another. Yet, Hagoromo uses the word "power" in both. UltimaDude wrote: That's irrelevant as Ninshuu led to greater calamities (more intense wars, the capture of the Tailed Beasts, and etc). If Hagoromo did indeed give Asura actual power he would of mentioned it right after stating that he made him the successor of Ninshuu. But instead, he went right on to talk about the results of his decision. If Hagoromo meant actual power, how would sharing actual power with Indra prevent the feud when the latter so badly want to be the successor of Ninshuu? What would prevent the conflict is giving both Indra and Asura the leaders of Ninshuu, Indra would have gotten what he wanted and wouldn't be butthurt. That is exactly what Hagoromo contemplated on Actualy, it's relevant, since it could've prevented something at least. Hagoromo himself admitted he entrusted everything to a single son while casting the attention away from the other one completely, which has led to Indra going mad. Hagoromo was even a bit a hypocryte, since he wanted for his sons to cooperate, but at the same time has shown no sign he believes in Indra as well. Had Indra received some power from him as a sign of his trust, he could've accepted Asura's position as a leader of ninshu and become willing to cooperate per father's wishes. UltimaDude wrote: Hagoromo giving Asura actual power is still a contradiction as it didn't occur in the manga A lot of things didn't occur in the manga, including Asura/Indra actua conflict, but we know about them from other characters' words as with Hagoromo, and this is the one of them. As a already said, anime isn't contradicting here, since Hagoromo said about it in the manga.