User talk:ShounenSuki

TheUltimate3 Corner
When you have the time, could you make the symbol on the Allied Forces' headband? We're going to need it now. Many thanks.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 23:08, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

CHAPTER 515 TRANSLATIONS
The raw's finally out. I'll just leave this here ^^

the place where Madara's hideout is located is called the.

The divisions of the united shinobi forces are:


 * : Kankurō
 * Known members: Omoi, Sai
 * Known members: Omoi, Sai


 * : Shizune
 * Known members: —
 * Known members: —


 * : Inoichi Yamanaka
 * Known members: Aoba Yamashiro, Tenga
 * Known members: Aoba Yamashiro, Tenga


 * : Ao
 * Known members: C
 * Known members: C


 * : Gaara
 * : Gaara


 * : Darui
 * Known members: Chōza Akimichi, Tenten
 * Known members: Chōza Akimichi, Tenten


 * : Kitsuchi
 * Known members: Kurotsuchi, Neji Hyūga, Hinata Hyūga, Karui
 * Known members: Kurotsuchi, Neji Hyūga, Hinata Hyūga, Karui


 * : Kakashi Hatake
 * Known members: Sakura Haruno, Might Guy, Rock Lee
 * Known members: Sakura Haruno, Might Guy, Rock Lee


 * : Gaara
 * : Shikamaru Nara
 * Known members: Temari, Chōji Akimichi
 * Known members: Temari, Chōji Akimichi


 * : Mifune
 * Known members: Ino Yamanaka, Shino Aburame, Hana Inuzuka, Kiba Inuzuka
 * Known members: Ino Yamanaka, Shino Aburame, Hana Inuzuka, Kiba Inuzuka

Also, Kabuto uses the word when talking about the kage he summoned. This word almost always refers to the one's direct predecessor, making it highly unlikely that the unknown kage is not the Second Tsuchikage. —ShounenSuki (talk 04:47, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Other Wiki
Hey, ShounenSuki, what other series did you have interest in again? Any interest in Future Diary? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Nov 8, 2010 @ 08:18 (UTC) 08:18, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Clan
OK this has been confusing me for awhile. Why do you and a few other users such as LeafShinobi and Omnibender keep reverting my simple edit of "Clan" back to "clan". It's really annoying and seems like you guys are doing it for no reason. It is grammatically correct. They are proper nouns because they mention a specific clan not a general sense of the word. I'm going to change them all back and if I see they are changed again I'm going to take more action. Simant has already agreed with me that he doesn't see the point in these edits. I'm goign to talk to the other users and get to the bottom of this, 19:56, November 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to fix my signature. Also this whole edit war is really pissing me off and you and 2 other users are the only ones who seem to disagree. I've talked to another admin and he really doesn't understand your reverts. Also I am not violating any poilcy and it is correct grammar. I've had enough of this. I'm goign to bring up a forum on this and hopefully this will cause all the grammar of clan in its proper sense to be used. I know the word itself isn't proper and that the names of the clans are, but it is a specific clan. When specifics are mentioned it is capitalized. New York City, the City of Philadelphia, etc. So if you are so skilled in English you should know this. Can we please stop edit warring.  00:29, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok fine I guess your argument makes sense. I guess the war is over. Where do you study out of curiousity? Also can you help me fix my signature?

Ranks
I don't understand how you want the format of the user input, could you elaborate? I can't put it in the same drop down as the rest. S im A nt 01:57, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://naruto.wikia.com/index.php?title=Property:Ninja_Rank&action=history Also, what about characters who are jonin/chunin/etc AND ANBU (kakashi)?S im A nt 13:27, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The point of the link was that I tried to do that change a year ago and it was shot down (and someone else kept trying...). I'm willing to make the change, perhaps you could get Dantman's point of view before preceding since he was the one reverting. S im A nt 19:49, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Can you please help me?
Hey, how are you??

I'm so so so sorry to bother you, but you see, I only have learned yesterday that the first translation to chap. 510 was messed up. Problem is, I was so used to that translation and had developed so many theories around it, that now I'm left completely confused about it. You see, I've looked for that chapter in onther 3 languages other than English. I've searched that chap. in spanish, portuguese and italian, and those 3 languages had the same problem with diff. trans. So I tried to look it up on the original japanese raw, except that I know absolutely nothing about it, and using online tranlation tools proved pointless and is driving me crazy.

My theory is that since he said on pag.12 that he is the only one that CAN be the second Rikudo, he admits that he, in fact, isnt yet. And well, considering his trademark arrogance, when he said that he is the only one that CAN be, truth is, he doesnt consider anyone else to have that power, or the possibility that not even himself will be able to actually become the second Rikudo. If all he had to do was join his Uchiha powers and the Senju's one, why would he have worked so hard to get Itachi and Sasuke to acheive the full power of the sharingan, and to go on such trouble for the Rinnegan? Plus, we saw what Nagato did to Konoha. Why Madara would ever trust Kabuto for his help, if he is now the most powerful shinobi that can be, as would be if he really is next Rikudo?

So I've found you as a reference to be a great tranlator in one of the forums, so here I am to ask you if will you please help me and say:

Is there ANY CHANCE, even the tiniest one, that this:

「お前は…三人目の六道…」 「うずまき一族末裔の証である赤い髪が白に変色するほど力を…」

could in ANY WAY be translated to:

"You... was the third Rikudô... powerful enough to even have changed the colour of your red hair, the proof of your being a descendent of the Uzumaki clan, into white..."

If you simply add a question mark to the end of that sentence, do you realize the difference that would really make? It would actually imply that the thrid Rikudo, was not Nagato, was the one that defeated him.

And while there's not an actual ??? at the end of that sentence, there is the ..., which could mean he wasn't done talking, but stoped once he realized Nagato was smiling, as you can see here:

http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-510-page-16.html

I know this could be total crap that I've created inside my head, and I'm ok to be proven wrong, honestly. I really just want to have no room left for doubt at all. Could you please help me?

I'm kind of new to this, and I was trying to contact you, and leave you a message, so I have no idea if it will work, or if you will answer me back. My email is chris_laviehamby@live.com, if you decide to answer me back ok? Sorry again to bother you, but as a Naruto fan, i hope you can understand. =)

--Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 16:23, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

I know you provided a translation before, but that is why I asked if it was simply possible that the words WAS and WERE could be placed in this sentence under different interpretations. From what i have found, on dictionaries, both words can be translated to the exact same kanjis, so the obvious word would be "You were", because "You... was", is gramatically wrong, but if the word WAS was used referring to a third person, the use would also be correct.

The only living beings that actually known the fist Rikudo, were the Bijuus, when he first created them, so how could you explain the fact that the Kyuubi reconizes/referes to Rikudo, when fighting Naruto? http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/499/p-14

Plus, the sign on his chest, when he fully takes control of Kyuubi: http://www.mangarush.com/manga/naruto/499/p-12

Online Dictionaries are not really the most reliable source, but a person with complete understanding of the language, and of the context, is.I've been provided with so many different translations by now that I'm just asking if it is possible. --Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 19:31, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Earth Release: Tunneling Like Mole Technique
Hey, I think I have a potential new earth jutsu that has been overlooked, but I though I would get your approval first since it will be my first page that I make.

While working on Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique, I found a tunneling earth release that did not fit:. First, it was a lot larger than the previously shown. I admit that the previous example may merely been an attempt to use less energy, but even then the tunnel seems rather big as it is too low to stand, but has to much space overhead for just crouching. I realize this may be put down as just artistic license, but their is also the Second point, Hiding like a Mole says: "This technique changes earth into fine sand by channeling chakra into it, allowing the user to dig through it like a mole," and here there is no sand.

Does this seem sufficient for a new jutsu? Akatsuchi (talk) 17:18, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the name and the support. Akatsuchi (talk) 00:38, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you so much for clarifying this for me. I HATE Madara, therefore to me it doesnt make any sense that he would get to be this powerful. You are completely right, Kishimoto would have left something a bit more obvious, or other clues on different ocasions.I guess I was just one of those people desperate to hold on to the possibility of Naruto being the next Rikudo, hehe.

Thank you for your patience and for taking the time to aswer me. =)

P.S.: I just want to make it clear that I wasn't doubting the accuracy of you as a translator before, but like you said, I thought it could be just a possible play on words.That's why I came to you to ask this. I really think you are a great translator.

--Christina Lavie Hamby (talk) 13:25, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Female Aburame member
So she is either Muta or Ranka. When you can, could you find out the japanese for them? Perhaps that would give insight into which is her name. S im A nt 21:29, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Edo tensei information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi man my name is Sharingan Itachi and I am a member....Any way I wanted to talk to u about the edo tensei. I did add some information at the article in the past weeks and what I did add is that the edo tensei summons wont be dispersed even by killing the user but I founded out that the information I added was deleted. So if u do not share the same idea as me please check the manga 121 page 2, if u find out that what I'm saying is correct please tell me what to do since it was deleted I mean is there a way that we can write something that can't be deleted. Sharingan Itachi (talk) 13:08, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

A Few Questions!!
I am a new member here as u see, but I know a lot about naruto and I plan to be a good editor on the site, you seem to be an old member and with good knowledge so I thought to ask you some questions, after reading the policies I got a little bit distracted so please can you answer these questions: 1) Do I have to put personal information on my page? 2) Do I have to talk about every thing I've changed or edit on the site? 3) Can I put the reference on the article so it can be read by any one or do I use this while editing, which I used in the edo tensei, kimimaro articles.

I am having a little bit of trouble with knowing the site because I'm new but I am known for my dedication and my love for perfection and certainly my love to naruto, I know every about the manga but not every thing about the anime since I hate fillers, I thought it was good to say this because I like every thing to be clear. Thank you for your time and effort.Sharingan Itachi (talk) 14:11, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Text
Hey, Suki-senpai, since you've been appearing a lot this week, I want to catch you before you get busy again. Were you able to get the translations back for the other two doujinshis?

I also came to ask you something. You know in most mangas and stuff that they don't always state things like thoughts out of talk bubbles and to the side? Well, when you give me the translations, I'm going to save a copy of the doujinshis' pages and replace them with your translated text. Thing is, I'm not very good at that.

I use Paint to erase and replace it, but that was pain in the butt. So I figured since you seem to know about translation and things, I want to ask you three things; First, what text do most manga use for talkbubbles, Arial or Roman? Two, is there a way for me to replace the Japanese text with the English without ruining the background of a page? Is there an easier way for me to replace Japanest text with the English, besides using Paint?

Do you understand what I'm saying? Sorry if I'm confusing you.-- Ninja Sheik  23:21, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ino's Eyes
Hi Shounensuki, I replied you on the talk page of Ino about her eyes :)

Geography Page
I left another reply on the Geography Page discussion--SkyFlicker (talk) 04:26, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

"Iwagakure, the old village in the Land of Earth, is the Rock. Ishi, the new village in the unnamed country is the Stone. Both are the same kind of material, only stones are smaller than rocks. There is no reason to ever use stone for Iwagakure or rock for Ishigakure and there never has been. Whoever does this is simply being silly." I guess it is just Viz screwing up the translations again then, since Iwagakure's page says "English TV 'Hidden Stone Village'". Wonder how they will correct that once the dubs progress to the current point in the anime, haha. SkyFlicker (talk) 22:09, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Help with a Diagram for a Theory
I need help with a diagram →. In this diagram, it's similar to the one I asked for help with before, but with Blaze, Dark, Steel, and Swift in the question-marked spaces, and elements like Wood and Boil on the circle instead on straight lines. Then I divided the entire diagram into two parts with a way line like the one in a Yin/Yang diagram placing certain elements on the black and others on the white. I hope the list of instructions is easy to understand. Thanks, appreciate your help! --GoDai (talk) 00:31, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it's extremely similar, but can you change the Yin-Yang around a bit so that Boil, Ice, and Lava end up in the "head" of the white, and Earth and Steel in the "tail"? Storm should end up on the curved line, but more on the black side, in the "head", with Dust and Ligtning, and Fire, Dark, and Blaze should be in the "tail" of the black.

My theory here has details. It's actually turned out better than I thought, despite my horrible directions. I think if you mirror/flip the Yin-Yang to "spin" in the other direction and turn it around a bit, it would work. (By the way, the idea was to split them up into "Matter" and "Energy", it magically works.) Thanks!--GoDai (talk) 02:20, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Looks really awesome. No kidding. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 02:41, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha that was actually an idea I had beacause Dust controls molecules, and therefore could be matter, but I decided it was more like "a solid Wind that reduces anything into molecule-sized dust" rather than the dust itself, but you could make 2 different versions, one where the Dust is a Yang element in the spot, and another one where there are no spots on either side, and dust is a Yin element. Thanks for the help! --GoDai (talk) 02:52, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm although that does take away the "magic", I kinda like this one better because it is much more accurate. I think it's perfect. I'll just note it's a more accurate variation. Thanks! --GoDai (talk) 02:46, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Anko's team
They gave a term for Anko's team, they said it when the alliance got intel from them. It should be good to make a team page. Since they sort of got there by being a team to track Kabuto, would that mean that Sai and Yamato are also members, from way back in the Invasion of Pain? On a sort of related note, why do you think Ranka might not be an Aburame? She used insects (granted, it was different from everything we ever saw an Aburame do), has the standard "look" of an Aburame, and she was along with Shino and Shibi when they fought Konan. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:53, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I totally misunderstood why you thought it might not be Ranka, I didn't consider the fact we might actually have the names switched at the moment. In an unrelated note, can you protect Itachi's page? Someone insists in changing Itachi's last words and because the IP changes with every edit, I can't simply rollback it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:19, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ignore to Itachi thing, Simant already did it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 03:21, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Itachi's Last Words
Hello, and excuse me, but I really feel that "It ends with this." doesn't make AS much sense as "This is the last time.", because Itachi always said "Maybe next time." Thus, making it more poignant than "It ends with this." And also "This is the last time." is a more accurate translation of "Kore ga saigo da."

Now that the page has been protected, I can't do anything about it. Please, I implore you, is there anything you can do to change it?


 * First of all, "it ends with this" is a more accurate translation of the Japanese text. Second and last of all, saying "it ends with this" makes as much sense as saying "this is the last time." The Japanese phrases are completely different, why make the English ones more similar? —ShounenSuki (talk 09:55, November 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I don't understand how "It ends with this" is more accurate. "Saigo" is supposed to mean "last" isn't it? Although I can get that it may also mean "the end". But I don't understand where the "with this" comes from. Also I meant 'making sense' context-wise. "Next time" moving on to "last time" would make more sense than "next time" to "ends with this". Doesn't "last time" sound more consistent? I'm sorry if I sound so persistent, but I just feel strongly about this.
 * The most literal translation of the Japanese text would be "with this, [it is] the end." converted to proper English, it becomes "it end with this." The "with this" part comes from the これで, which could also be translated as 'here'. The consistency you're trying to force in here simply doesn't exist in Japanese. There is no need to put it in the English. Especially if it means taking liberties with the translation.
 * This is an encyclopædia, which means we're trying to convey information as accurately as possible. If we were translating for an English release of the manga, I'd agree with you without question, but it's simply not what this site is going for. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:04, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you so very much, Suki-senpai! I really owe you one! And remember, if you need any help with your translation or just plain curious about it for the Naruto Offcial Fanbook, just tell me! It'll be my pleasure to help you.

Oh, by the way, do you know where I can edit the doujinshi pages to replace it with the English context? I hate using Paint, but it's the only thing I got.-- Ninja Sheik  22:36, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

PhotoShop I know about quite well. Everyone uses it to create art and doujinshi. My aunt uses to make cards and poster for her baking busisness. She even told me that it was free, but I alos thought you had to buy it.

Thanks for the link, Suki-senpai! So, tell me, did you have fun reading the translations when you were working on them?-- Ninja Sheik  23:05, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Moyagakure
ShounenSuki-sama could you make a picture about the symbol of Moyagakure? What program do you use to make your excellent images .svg? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 21:20, November 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Will you make a symbol Moyagakure? Why Shimogakure was added to World Map? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 05:39, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ch. 460 translations.
A while ago I started a debate on how serious the Lightning Release Armor was, and in the end there was not enough for me to go on. Recently though I got the manga, and wording differed. Darui says: 'Lord Raikage, you're not...!?,' and C says to himself 'He's serious!' This shows great panic on their parts with the jutsu, but the manga has had translating trouble before, and I would say the online stuff is generally more accurate. Could you check that page in the raw? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 02:18, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Edits that need to be made
Since you seem to edit a lot of the major pages and be such a important contributor, the Summoning:_Triple_Rashōmon page and the Nine-Tailed_Fox_Menacing_Ball page both have links to episode 42 of naruto, not shippuden. I would change the pages myself, but i don't know how.
 * Fixed. S im A nt 20:34, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Clan symbols
Looking over the unknown clan symbols you aded earlier. I was on another page when I noticed something. Start Your Engines: The Chūnin Exam Begins! If you check one of the guys in the picture near the front on the right, the back of his shirt is marked with one of those symbols. Just figured it'd be something interesting to note. ^_^ --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 19:29, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Manga
Where I can read the manga in japanese? --Leodix - My Talk - Contributions 00:32, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The Chapter is already out?
Where? Or are you going from the RAW for the techs?--NaruHina fan (talk) 21:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Can you tell me how the chapter is?--NaruHina fan (talk) 21:18, November 24, 2010 (UTC)