Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28098034-20160705045434/@comment-27823212-20160707032556

9 Arts dragon wrote: Because sage of six paths Madara despite being stronger than Sasuke wasn't blitzed and split in half even got commented on his speed...

What manga do you guys even read?... I'm reading the manga where Sasuke was getting dodged by blind Madara. Madara clearly looked at Sasuke behind him and was more concerned with getting his eye than fighting at that point.

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Momoshiki stated he was comparable to them in the novel

And even if its together they still uprooted it physical strenght isn't something that is unquantifiable

Prove Sasukes chidori doesn't vape Nagato ? Odama rasengan from adult Naruto > shinju tree trunk now > anything Nagato is capable of Sasuke's ninjutsu get absorbed by Preta path. Shared vision+Shinra Tensei hard counter Amenotejikara.

The Rasengan that destroyed the Shinju trunk was Boruto's rasengan. Naruto merely gave him chakra. Boruto twisted his wrist, which made the Rasengan produce a vacuum effect by sucking in it's surroundings, which in turn gave it it's launching power. That is not Naruto's feat, that is Boruto's. That Rasengan would be absorbed by Preta path nonetheless.

SwordSlayer99 wrote: "Based on what can Naruto blitz Nagato? ."

BM Naruto is quite faster than KCM Naruto. BM Naruto was fast enough to move past the Biju's bijudama's and redirect them. BSM Naruto is even faster than BM, and BSM Naruto could see the Juubi's bijudama move(The one that crossed the Continent to destroy the headquarters), but BSM Naruto could barely see Juubi Obito move. SPSM Mode Naruto is so fast that he can keep up with Madara with all his powerups.... Madara's speed > Madara's bijudama speed > Obito's speed > BSM Naruto's speed > BM Naruto > Nagato's speed. Nagato would get bltized by 4th War Naruto and Sasuke let alone Boruto movie Naruto and Sasuke... Naruto redirected the Bijudama due to him manifesting Kurama's tails. Speed alone can't redirect anything. It has no tangible existence.

Naruto was able to see Obito move just fine. He couldn't hit him without getting used to his movements.

Six Paths Sage mode Naruto is stated to be more reflexive than his previous forms due to the superior senjutsu. Nothing implies that he is significantly physically faster.

What does any of this have to do with Sasuke? He isn't as fast as Naruto's max speed shunshin, so this is irrelevant.

None of what you're saying makes any sense. Naruto being able to follow a Ten Tails' jinchuriki and being physically faster than Nagato wouldn't mean that he can blitz him. You have to prove that Naruto's movement speed is beyond Nagato's reflexes. Nagato's own foot speed in comparison is irrelevant. "Naruto in Six Paths Sage mode was pierced by Sasuke's katana. The same katana that couldn't pierce Ei's cloak."

Sasuke was massively more powerful when he cut Naruto.......Rinnegan Sasuke is more powerful than Toneri, so it's not surprise to me that Naruto can get cut by Sasuke's sword..... What are you even talking about? I'm talking about when Shin ran Sasuke's sword through Naruto's stomach.

Rinnegan Sasuke being a stronger combatant than Toneri isn't why his sword can pierce Naruto while Golden wheel can't. Do you even read your own posts before you click reply?

"The current Six Paths Sage mode Naruto that possesses an inferior cloak to his war arc "

Momoshiki was stated to be > Kaguya while 4th war Sasuke and Naruto were getting beat by Kaguya... Boruto Movie Naruto and Sasuke are WAY stronger than they were during that 4th War. Momoshiki was never stated to be on Kaguya's general tier of strength let alone above her level and his feats don't even put him on jinchuriki Obito's level of strength.

"Toneri's Golden Wheel being longer than the moon and slicing through it, yet not doing anything to Naruto means that it has a huge overall energy yield, but is pound-for-pound weak in terms of potency."

Wrong. All it means is that Naruto has higher power and durability than the moon-cutter. You can try and downplay Toneri's feat if you want but it is a FACT that it cut the moon in half and yet it couldn't put one scratch on a weakened BSM Naruto... Naruto also one shotted the moon cutter with a chakra punch.. Shin runs Sasuke's katana right through Naruto, the same katana which bounces off Ei's raiton armor.

No, Naruto cannot take an attack that has pound-for-pound moon level potency, just like the Kurama cloaked alliance shinobi can't survive an attack that has more pound-for-pound potency than Naruto & Bee's combined Bijudama.

"They are not equal to Momoshiki using nothing but taijutsu."

They were = to Momoshiki b4 he absorbed Kinshiki, and after he absorbed Kinshiki is when they had to fight together. Momoshiki > Kaguya... Even Darui was clashing evenly with base Momoshiki before he absorbed Kinshiki.

They were not equal to 2nd form Momoshiki with taijutsu only. What's so hard to understand?

I'm not even going to entertain the nonsense about Momoshiki being on Kaguya's level when that's never stated. 2nd form Momoshiki is weaker than jinchuriki Obito considering his strongest move is a Rock golem, which was casually dealt with by a single slash from Perfect Susano'o. "Toneri isn't even close to the level of a Ten Tails' jinchuriki."

Toneri is more powerful than Obito is. Toneri isn't even close to Obito and neither is Momoshiki.

I would normally just recommend that you just reread the manga, but your interpretations are so far south, I don't think that any sort of evidence is going to get through to you.