Talk:Rock Lee/Archive 1

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''"Its also the first time he actually managed to beat an opponent on screen." I think this is incorrect, he knocked out Naruto in episode 22 and was close to defeating Sasuke until Guy stopped him from using the lotus. Although i'm not 100% sure if that could be called defeating them as they both recovered pretty quickly. (i didn't edit the page as i'm no good at explaining things clearly, plus i wasn't sure if it counts as a victory.)''

Whats his Family Name?
Is it Rock or Lee... I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT. SilverSword 02:41, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * He has none. Rock Lee is his name. Just cause we have full names in real life doesn't mean that is necessarily applied in shows. Rock Lee is to Given Name/Last Name as "Pain" is. "Pain", "Might Guy", "Rock Lee", "Killer Bee", and so on... All of them are just single names that Kishimoto took from English, and kanified. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 30, 2008 @ 03:41 (UTC)


 * So then I could take either one I wanted to. Thank you very much for the information. Sorry if I'm being Bothersome with my Fanboy Questions. It's funny that the people that I feel embarrassed about bringing up my Fanfiction with are the people trying to write an encyclopedia all about Naruto. --SilverSword


 * I'm pretty sure his family name is "Rock", since everybody calls him "Lee" and not "Rock".
 * Even in the english version [anime], hes stated as Rock Lee. America would have changed it to Lee Rock. Its just Rock lee not a family name. --Hamachi1993 (talk) 03:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)Hamachi1993


 * Does Rock Lee even have a family? I haven't seen his mother or father or anyone. Maybe Guy is in his family, or...?--nana265 (talk) 03:21, 05 December 2010 (UTC)nana265

Is it possible that "Rock" could be a nickname?--Grassrunnerdaughter (talk) 20:49, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ninjutsu? Genjutsu?
Just wondering... did Masashi ever state why lee cant do ninjutusu and genjutsu? or is he just plain unable to do it? I mean, I cant figure it out! He obviously has chakra or ar least can access it, so why can he do ninjutsu and genjutsu? any one got an answer? AMTNinja 21:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * During Lee's fight against Gaara in the second part of the chunin exam, Guy said that Lee was unabel to use Ninjutsu and Genjutsu. Why is unknown as far as I know. Jacce 21:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

ok thanks! its really weird tho huh? I wonder why its never explained... AMTNinja 21:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's because he never had any experence with it. That's just what I think. Because he does have chakra (hence the ability to open the 8 gates) but he can't preform any jutsu. Hope I helped! User:anonymous 13:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

It sais Lee has bearly any talent for it so they skipped to Taijutsu. He could do it with enough hard work but they just went to Taijutsu.

Actually, it was stated that he was born with a damaged or underdeveloped chakra network, which is why he can't mold chakra for ninjutsu or genjutsu.

Source or it didn't happen. I only remember them saying Lee simply can't mould chakra. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:01, June 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't recall any truly substansiated reason given for Lee's lack of skill in nin- and genjutsu. the closest thing is Guy's speech in chapter 82:
 * That's also basically the explanation the First Databook gives. Lee simply has no talent for nin- and genjutsu. No medical reasons, nothing. Simply no talent. Oh, and he can mould chakra. He can walk on water, after all. —ShounenSuki (talk 01:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's also basically the explanation the First Databook gives. Lee simply has no talent for nin- and genjutsu. No medical reasons, nothing. Simply no talent. Oh, and he can mould chakra. He can walk on water, after all. —ShounenSuki (talk 01:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lee can use Genjutsu now!
ATTENTION! Aparently Lee can now use Genjutsu (albeit horibly). His genjutsu is 1 and his Ninjutsu is still 0. (Check Databook 3).
 * This is most likely explained in that he can break genjutsu through causing himself physical pain.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 02:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Lee has chakra control?
Apparently he is able to walk on water now in ep. 104. 74.236.92.133 (talk) 02:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Lee's condition has never been expanded upon besides saying he can't use Nin/Genjutsu so it is possible he can mold chakra for simple exercises like walking up trees, walk on water and using chakra to strength his body. His limitation most likely when he tries to use the larger amounts needed for Gen/Ninjutsu.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 02:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Lee doesn't have an issue with chakra molding. He's just extremely bad at learning Ninjutsu. It was never stated he had any issue molding chakra in any way, in fact if he did have that issue he wouldn't be able to use a number of the Taijutsu he uses. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Apr 11, 2009 @ 06:16 (UTC)

Hurricane Blade?
Um...since when does Lee use this technique? I've seen most of the Naruto episodes, but i've never seen him use this one. Plus, on the description of the Jutsu, it says that the Naruto episode is unknown, so should this be removed or should we let it stay? Maybe if we can find what episode it was in it can stay, but if we can't, should we delete it. Byakugan413 01:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It might not even appear in the anime. When I stumbled upon that article I assumed that it was from the anime since it doesn't sound video game-ish enough. If you've never seen it, that might mean it is from a video game. ~SnapperTo 03:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It also could be that it is in manga also :|

75.55.116.50 (talk) 03:26, September 4, 2011 (UTC)Unregistered User

Techniques
Um...okay, i was going over Lee's techniques and i read over the Leaf Great Whirlwind and then Leaf Whirlwind and i'm confused. I thought the leaf whirlwind was when he used one of his legs and struck the oppoent's legs, tripping them up. He used it when he first met Team Kakashi during the chunin exams against Naruto. I'm very confused because if you read Leaf Whirlwind its called Leaf Hurricane in the english t.v. and on the other technique its also called leaf hurricane. I also thought that the leaf hurricane was called Konoha Senpu, not Konoha Daisenpu. Either i'm not understanding, or somebody has there information wrong, so can someone help me out? Byakugan413 19:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've spent the last hour trying to figure this out. Someone put the wrong descriptions with the wrong jutsu names. This is what I get for not paying more attention to descriptions when I'm sourcing jutsu stats. Hopefully I've corrected everything. I'd suggest forgetting whatever you read earlier and start over. ~SnapperTo 04:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Chakra manipulation
"Lee cannot properly manipulate his chakra, leaving him unable to use ninjutsu or genjutsu."

Where does this come from? As far as I know, the only reason given for his lack of nin- and genjutsu abilities was that he has zero talent for them. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the anime vastly elaborates on why he doesn't use nin/genjutsu. That, or someone made it up several years ago and the idea has since spread like wildfire. My money's on the anime. ~SnapperTo 03:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I remember a anime flashback saying Lee couldn't mold chakra. When and where was this, I have no idea I can't remember but I believe it was around the time he fought Gaara.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 03:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You want to look at chapter 82 and 84 and episode 48-49. Judging from I have seen, Lee has no talent in genjutsu or ninjutsu, but is still able to mold chakra. Jacce | Talk 05:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Dynamic Entry
In what chapter does Lee use Dynamic Entry? 216.80.136.13 (talk) 02:17, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I hear him use it alot in the anime. Heck, even Tenten used the technique, then again, she used it on a filler arc. (talk) 10:52, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Mythological inspiration for Lee
Is the Rock Lee page locked for all of you? I can't edit it. Anyway, I don't know if this would technically be worthy of the information page for him as it's only a supposition, anyway.

There is apparently a creature in both Japanese and Chinese folklore called "shōjō" (in Japanese) and "sheng sheng" or "xing xing" (in Chinese). The Chinese names can apparently be translated to something like "live lively" (if 'lively' is not a good word to describe Lee, I don't know what is).

In Chinese folklore, this beast was described as a "green animal with a human face" with a Chinese character that is used both to mean green and colors "that in English would mean blue." This would explain Lee's green attire (besides emulating Guy) and would also help explain why he is reffered to as "Konoha no Utsujushiki Aoi Yajū." The information page translates it as "Konoha's Beautiful Green Wild Beast" and I don't know enough Japanese to verify the rest of the translation, but I know enough to definitively say that aoi does not mean green, it means blue.

Let's see, there is also Lee's Drunken Fist and ridiculously low tolerance for alcohol. The shōjō beast is often associated with sake due to various tales involving the drink and the word can also be used to describe a heavy-drinker. Not to mention, in Japanese folklore, the beast is described as hairy and red-faced. Rock Lee's face does turn red when he opens the Gates. And did we forget about his bushy brows?

This possible connection between the two was something I'm sure I found in a forum, although I can't recall where and I have been unable to find it again (hard as I might try). The information I used was in the "Shōjō" article on Wikipedia, so there's mah sauce.
 * The page was locked for unregistered and new contributers due to a lot of vandalism. Jacce | Talk 17:09, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all, aoi can refer to any colour between sky blue and grass green. It does not mean blue alone, nor does it not mean green.
 * That said, although there seem to be similarities, the Japanese sources I found speak slightly differently about the shōjō. I couldn't find any reference of it being called aoi; it is usually described as being red. Not unusual, considering the fact that {{translation}|shōjō|猩々}} is the Japanese word for the orang-utan.
 * Also, the shōjō is described as a heavy drinker, the exact opposite of Rock Lee, and the way the shōjō is depicted in Nō and other Japanese art forms is quite unlike how Lee looks. --ShounenSuki (talk 23:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, suppose one was writing a fanfiction, would one put Konoha's beautiful green beast, or beautiful blue beast? What would make the writer seem less like an idiot? (in case you're wondering, our hypothetical fanfiction writer is me...) 11:52, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lee clearly wears green, so I'd go with that.--TricksterKing (talk) 04:57, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Tonfa
I remember that Lee tried to attack Kisame in the anime with two tonfas, but Kisame destroyed them with Samehada. Should we put it into his Weapons section?--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 15:27, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ninja Academy Arc
I can't find a single reference to the Ninja Academy Arc outside of this page. Are there episode numbers, manga chapters, anything?
 * This is a filler. Naruto Episode 158 - Follow My Lead! The Great Survival Challenge. Please sign your posts.--Donatelo (talk) 20:59, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

True about spinoff series?
Is it true Rock Lee is gonna get a spin off series? Sparxs77 (talk) 22:27, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

it's true look at this rock lee spingtime of youth spin off Nitram86 (talk) 12:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Is this spinoff canonical to the main series? Exipotic (talk) 19:57, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * No it isn't --Cerez365 (talk) 20:14, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Omake
What should we do about the omake (series?) that has come out featuring Lee and the rest of Team Guy? It's not by Kishimoto and I'm not sure what magazine it originally appeared in. If it's some WSJ affiliate and/or the author is/was a Kishimoto assistant, it might be worth covering somewhere. ~SnapperTo 03:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem to be an omake, but a spin-off and I do think it's worth mentioning. We should treat it as separate from the normal manga, though. Perhaps even as non-canon, like the films and games. —ShounenSuki (talk 15:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. So...Are we going to do this or not?-- Ninja Sheik  17:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think we should. I don't think the person is even affiliated with Kishimoto-sensei adding stuff like that would only lead to confusion in Lee's article. We could mention that he has a spin-off in his trivia section though--Cerez365 (talk) 18:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * He is/was his assistant and has official permission to create a spin-off series. He's closer affiliated with Kishimoto-sensei than the creators of the games or films, or even the anime for that matter. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Which means it's okay do make a page for it. Even if it wasn't made directly made by Kishimoto-sama, it still uses his Naruto characters. Kishimoto-sama was like a co-author to this spin-off, correct?-- Ninja Sheik  20:58, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Speaking of, it might be useful to make pages for the three Kishimoto omake. ~SnapperTo 21:03, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Three Kishimoto omake?-- Ninja Sheik  21:04, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't want to look up where they appeared originally, but they are:
 * Team 7 trying to see Kakashi's face.
 * Naruto asking the ninken about Kakashi's face.
 * Sexy training with Jiraiya.
 * ~SnapperTo 21:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh...-- Ninja Sheik  21:08, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think those were in databooks. Wasn't there one where the ramem guy's daughter first appear in, before she appeared in the manga? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

You mean Ayame? I don't have the databooks, only the fanbook and Anime Profiles. So, I don't really know what you guys are talking about.-- Ninja Sheik  21:17, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * If it's made by Kishimoto or not, it is still part of the Naruto Universe and thus will be mentioned here. Right now, I say it gets it's own little section, named whatever the hell the spin off is called. If it gets to long, annex it off to it's own subpage.--TheUltimate3 ~The User King ~ 21:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think that's reasonable. There's only two chapters out so far, we don't know how long will this spin-off continue. Could be to 5 chapters or even 20.-- Ninja Sheik  21:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to clear things up, here's a list of omake and such from the databooks and fanbooks:
 * First Databook:
 * First Fanbook:
 * Second Databook:
 * Third Databook:
 * Second Fanbook: and
 * —ShounenSuki (talk 22:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...That's not too big of a list. How long are these omakes?-- Ninja Sheik  23:01, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * The ones I listed are 3, 5, and 7 respectively. The pilot chapter has about 30 pages if I remember correctly. The others aren't even a page. ~SnapperTo 23:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

That's no so bad. You think we can fit them, minus the Pilot since it was its own page already, all on one page?-- Ninja Sheik  23:35, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Why do they all need to be on one page? ~SnapperTo 02:39, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking...If they aren't very long, then they can fit on page right? It's just a suggestion, they could have their own pages.-- Ninja Sheik  02:42, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

rock lee spingtime of youth 2 i think we can made a page about it like it was a game or movie with the episode list but we can't add the jutsus for exemple "rock lee springtime of youth is a spin off of the naruto series drawn by... the serie features... ecc ecc like it was a oav or a movie without enter in the description of the chapitels there is a forum discussion Forum:Lee%27s_Springtime_of_YouthNitram86 (talk) 22:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Rock_Lee_no_Seishun_Full-Power_Ninden we can add the character featured in the Chapters " 1. The Ninja Rock Lee features   rock lee            tenten            neji hyuga            ...." with the links to the pages of the characters and a little description of the chapiter "lee try to impress gai with ninjutsu" something like that Nitram86 (talk) 10:59, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Handedness
I've been looking at Lee in the manga recently, and he seems to be ambidextrous, if not left handed. Is this just due to his taijutsu training that he is proficient with both hands, or is this worth mentioning? Timeel39 (talk) 22:30, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is this notable for trivia?
Lee seems to be a real BAMF while drunk. Could this be a referance to Bruce Lee's movie "Drunken Master"? The idea is much the same between the two.--Grassrunnerdaughter (talk) 20:51, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Drunken Fist.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 20:54, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

The Bruce Lee connection has already been noted. Skitts (talk) 21:05, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Oh god I'm dim. Sorry.--Grassrunnerdaughter (talk) 02:22, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Along with that, he does Jeet Kune Do, a fighting style by Bruce Lee 76.116.127.70 (talk) 21:53, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

How is this possible ?
Well Rock Lee cant do neither genjutsu or ninjutsu, so how could he graduate from the Academy ? I thought that there were final tests. I mean there are exceptions like Naruto who could not do the Clone Technique but he can do the Shadow Clone Technique .. and thats not the case for Lee, as he can't do anything ... 79.177.136.22 (talk) 17:58, March 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * We don't know how he managed to graduate. --Speysider (Talk Page) 18:07, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Best performance I guess, but Speysider is right, there was no explanation on how he graduate. White Flash  Akatsuki Symbol.svg  Talk  18:16, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Naruto couldn't use the Clone Technique and Iruka graduated him from the use of the Shadow Clone Technique. It's more than likely that he passed on some other merit as Naruto did. One moreeee thing. Genjutsu isn't taught at the Academy, just the principles. Rock Lee more than likely had good scores in everything else.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 19:23, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

No Spin-Off Pages?
Shouldn't there be pages for Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth and Naruto SD: Rock Lee and His Friends? I know they're not canon, but their creator was given permission by Masashi Kishimoto to produce a spin-off series. In order to avoid confusion with the canon characters, you could either make separate pages like "Rock Lee" and "Rock Lee (Spin-off)". or if you don't want to make separate pages, they could have sections at the bottom of the page. They two series (Manga and Anime) could be listed as non-canon LeeHatake93 (talk) 05:16, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is being discussed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:21, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Rock Lee and Drunken Gods
In Sasuke retrival arc, Rock Lee drinks Sake, and is drunk when he is fighting Kimomaru, that resembles Kung Fu techique called Eight drunken Gods of Kung Fu, performed by Jacky Chan in movie Drunken Master...YamatoTakeru (talk) 21:10, June 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't that the same as Drunken Fist? - White Flash - (Talk) - 21:12, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

The Drunken gods are eight particular stances and to degrees style of the Drunken Fist, each with an intended purpose. It's basically a break down of the learning in the Drunken fist, though Yamato there is right, several of Lee's moves and stances are right out of the movie. Which isn't new as Sasuke's stances in the valley of the end fight also mirror an old Jackie Chan flick. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 22:03, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

Seriously, what is going on with the jutsu list on these pages all of a sudden?
too wierd--Mikesec256 (talk) 17:36, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Something wrong? --X29 17:37, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a bug that's going on. 千白 Talk 17:38, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sees Lee's page........... There certainly is a bug. Where are the Jutsus? And what's wrong with the weight and height? --X29 17:42, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Might be the new lightbox that was installed. I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually. 千白 Talk 17:45, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * More like the MediaWiki upgrade if you ask me. --Speysider Talk Page 17:46, August 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Either ways, hope it'll get fixed soon. --X29 17:51, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's just struck me odd. Didn't even see the weight/height. Check out Sasuke's page even weirder. --Mikesec256 (talk) 18:14, August 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've seen that one before. --X29 18:16, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

wow! another bug?
What's going on lately?--
 * The issue's been fixed as far as I can see.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:20, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Spoke prematurely. The issue seems to be being fixed.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:25, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah everything seems fine to me. Except the chakra natures unless it's been fixed.--Mikesec256 (talk) 14:26, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Chakra natures are appearing in infoboxes again for me. The "rank=on" issue also seems to be fixed.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:30, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * That chakra nature issue got fixed yesterday, as well as the rank=on. --Speysider Talk Page 14:34, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't understand what Simant did to solve the chakra natures, but the rank on was fixed by changing the parameter selection from a radio button to a drop-down menu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:58, August 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * The negref was removed by Snapper2, which solved the problem. 04:02, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

green aura
what is the green aura that we see in the 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th gates? differnet from the 7th? should the 7th really be blue. tha anime had to mess up or do it that way just due to the anime charka color.
 * You don't need to create duplicate topics in multiple talk pages. All there is to know is in the Eight Gates article. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 06:20, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

The former is likely chakra, the latter sweat. That's the only answer I can give.--Elveonora (talk) 12:48, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

About his abilities
I know this issue has been touched upon before but I feel it needs to be dealt with. Would it be appropriate to add a small line of info about Lee's ability to walk on walls and water. Just something along the lines of "although Lee has no talent with ninjutsu, he is at least proficient enough to channel his chakra for simple techniques such as walking on water". It's one of those things that's often brought up as a "but how can he" type thing so I feel it's worth at least an acknowledgement in the article.--Soul reaper (talk) 13:28, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Those aren't exactly classified as ninjutsu but general skills. There's nothing wrong with Lee's chakra . He's just incapable of using ninjutsu and genjutsu.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:32, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Speed with and withought weights.
In a description of his speed, it says he was able to intercept Haku's charge. Did he charge from a crystal mirror(tremendous speed) or did he charge normally?--Aeonophic (talk) 21:16, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Aeonophobic, this isn't a forum. There's a reference there for the speed thing. Haku came out of a mirror else it would not have been mentioned.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 21:48, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Guess he did have his weights on--Aeonophic (talk) 12:27, November 19, 2012 (UTC)Aeonophobic
 * You never asked that question. And we don't know whether or not he still uses those.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 12:33, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Just listen to Cerez -- *J*E*A*N* *M*A*R*C* *D*A*I*C*H*O*U* *L*O*V*E*S* *N*A*R*U*T*O* 21:04, March 10, 2013 (UTC)