Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-36006024-20180926134241/@comment-734582-20180929071300

Vladosaurus wrote: That's honestly ridiculous. That's Hashirama's power. Strong cells? Dude, that's him. It is all his power. Nobody in the Senju clan ever came close to Hashirama. Nobody in the Senju clan ever displayed wood release.Nobody in the Senju had similar healing or celling like Hashirama. Hashirama was the strongest ninja by his own. It was all him. According to you, Minato shouldn't be included as well, because only a hand full of people come close to his prodigious nature, and also his speed was likely something natural for him. A bit of a late reply, but oh well. My point isn't that it's not his power. My point is that if Hashirama is the strongest "because it's HIS power", then why does OP mention stuff like "hax dojutsu" (as i quoted). It's BS to insist one kind of power is "hax" while Hashirama is probably the most hax person around. If the point is that someone is the strongest because of no external power, Minato fits that bill infinitely more

Vladosaurus wrote: This is not some liberal debate here. Hashirama is one of the strongest ninja by his own right, without borrowed power. Minato is up there, sure, but not on Hashirama's level. I don't think you understand what liberal means, nor do i think you need to be an asshole over it.

Sage Mode borrows power from the environment, and Hashirama also borrows power from Ashura because he's a transmigrant