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Also, Akatsuki-era Kakuzu should could have easily been one-shotted by Hashirama given his feats. Yet Kakuzu, without his village's secret techniques, survived? That's a big WTF there. I'm going to assume it was Hashi's kindness that saved him, since we know he shares the quality of strong kindness with both Ashura and Naruto. Also Tobirama nearly getting killed by Kinkaku and Ginkaku's attempted coup, and him dying at the hands of 20 guys severely undermine his later hype/feats.

Funny, isn't it?

Both the First and Second Hokage should have lived to be at least 75-80. How come they didn't and Hiruzen did?

Can one then speculate that the small groups who finished off Kakuzu both times (when he was alive then when his reanimation was sealed) should have been able to give Hashirama a tough battle? Ha ha.