Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31672013-20170405031710/@comment-30323490-20170405094814

The problem is that unlike Jiraiya, who has MA and PA to collect NY for him, Naruto needs to restore NY with shadow-clones.And during the pain fight, he could manage only like 4. If Jiraiya catches him base mode, it's over.On the other hand, if Naruto manages to hit the rasenshuriken, it's over for Jiraiya.Naruto could also made a bunch of clones and attack with Sage Art: Many Ultra-Big Ball Spiralling Serial Spheres, and that would be pretty hard to dodge, even for someone like Jiraiya. However i don't think Naruto was exerienced enough with SM during the pain fight to pull this of. In any case, i think Jiraiya will take this most of the times.