Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-28483245-20160519110823/@comment-28869806-20160519201852

QuakingStar wrote: Ok so you just gave him the 9 tails, which the only reason Hashirama was able to beat was because of wood release. With 9 tails involved this is just a spite thread. @Moderators what do you think??

Also, the only people who actually knew Hiruzen's prime were Danzo and his advisers as they were on the battlefield with him in the wars, Dan was not. So stop with the BS. Prime Hiruzen was officially confirmed in DB4 to surpass Tobirama at a young age, he wasn't even in his prime yet. Tobirama beat Izuna who is = MS Madara whereas the only difference between EMS Madara and MS Madara is permanent eyesight, less strain on the eyes and CB Susanoo. So if a young Hiruzen was able to surpass Tobirama = Izuna = Madara then Prime Hiruzen would still win, even if Barely against Madara alone. With 9 Tails Madara wins. You all hate Hiruzen, we get it. Uchiahmasters you love the Uchiha, we get it.. your name even has Uchiha in it. You biased people don't belong in vs threads. @Lulcie;id THANK YOU, the only person with common sense here when it comes to Madara v Hashirama at VotE. I picked the title Uchihamasters because it sounded cool, (I was very close to calling myself Rikudomasters, but I changed my mind) I'm not a biased person, I just take feats into consideration unlike you who just makes shit up. a argument that only takes databook info into consideration is a worthless argument. do I think EMS Madara is anywhere near as powerful as base Hashirama, no I don't EMS Madara cannot beat Hashirama but he sure as hell would beat Hiruzen, where was it stated that the only people who knew Hiruzen's strength were Danzo and the advisers, because it's starting to feel like you're making shit up again, Dan also took part in a war while Hiruzen was still in his prime, that's where he died. it makes no sense for characters like Tsunade, Jiraiya and Orochimaru to not know how powerful Hiruzen was in his prime.