Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20160126112547/@comment-26773508-20160203051511

@MIGshinobi: By your own logic, Itachi is an idiot. He couldn't do much against Obito. Heck, he couldn't even figure out that Tobi was actually Obito and not Madara. So let's just look at the heirarchy of the conspiracy here. Black Zetsu manipulates Madara. Madara manipulates Obito. Obito manipulates Nagato and Itachi.

That is, BZ > Madara > Obito > Nagato/Itachi

Yep, Itachi comes FOURTH in the heirarchy of the greatest manipulation in shinobi history. And he had no fucking clue about that whatsoever. All the time, he thought he was protecting Konoha by leaking intel on Akatsuki. Itachi wasn't even sure if Obito knew his true story (i.e. Itachi being a loyal spy of Konoha).

In fact, Obito actually used Itachi's death to his own advantage. He not only succeeded to foil Itachi's Amaterasu trap that he had programmed into Sasuke's eyes, but he made such a good use of Itachi's life story that, for a time, Sasuke became a willing pawn to be molded into whatever Obito saw fit.

So long story short:

1)Itachi failed to protect his clan

2) He failed to guide his brother to the right path (it took Edo Tensei, Hashirama, and Naruto's Talk no Jutsu to do so)

3) He failed to protect the secret of his own life. Obito could see through Itachi as clearly as one can see through an empty glass.

4) And most damning of all, Itachi was wrong about Tobi from the get go.

Ergo, Itachi is stupid.