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Six Paths Sage Mode
Please, stop repeating the same mistake with your edits over and over again. Hiden novels aren't considered as a part of a canon storyline, and the same with the statements within them - Tailed Beasts' chakra was never stated to be a necessary part of the SPSM in the canon media, just an addition to it. Anyway, the trivia section already mentions this statement, and that's just enough. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 18:57, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Edits
When multiple people are reverting your edits, then going back in and just making the same edits without any regard to the edit summaries is simply disruptive. Please stop making the same edits over and over and use the talkpage as to why your additions should be kept on the page. --Sajuuk 22:57, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * And again. You aren't going to get any further warnings on this matter. --Sajuuk 00:23, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Forum Behaviour
Your behaviour in the Sasuke vs Healthy Nagato thread wasn't as severe as some of the other users, so I personally won't issue an "official" warning. But watch yourself. If things are going south, don't push em further. You've debated each point alright, but don't add fuel to what fire is already there. So yeah. Like I said, it wasn't that bad. But it wasn't good either. Just watch how you respond to others. AsianReaper (talk) 20:31, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Warning
I'm not into using flashy templates like certain other users, but I'm gonna tell you this only once: If I see a comment like this again, referencing mental illness or whatnot, or any other acrimonious insult from you, it will result in a block. You can disagree with users without needing to go so far. 07:51, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Couple things:
 * Sasuke's attributed his own powers to the Six Paths Power specifically in the manga, not the Yin Power.
 * Naruto's powers were attributed to the Six Paths Sage Chakra in the manga, not the Yang power like VIZ supposedly says. We have an article detailing both.
 * Databook specifically details how the Six Paths Yin and Yang powers were given to Naruto and Sasuke for the sole purpose of sealing Kaguya. If their powers depended on those seals, they would not have retained their Six Paths abilities after seals disappeared from their hands. They did not access their powers from those seals, they got direct chakra from Hagoromo. The seal is not that chakra.
 * And finally, what you get from VIZ is a mistranslation. And they have mistranslated things before. And as such, we don't use incorrect translations, we use the most accurate ones as possible. It will be treated as false information if you keep adding it and will be removed. So simply, don't add it. 05:52, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * "The databook says that what Sasuke received from Hagoromo was the Rinnegan and seal. Nothing more, which makes this 'extra chakra' that you think exists, mere fanfiction."
 * Firstly, I'm very aware of what the databook says. I am also aware that it never said that Sasuke's Rinnegan or other powers came specifically from the Six Paths Yin Power. Like you said, he got the Rinnegan and the Six Paths Yin Power. But it never said his Rinnegan powers came from the Six Paths Yin Power, nor did it say that Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode come from his Six Paths Yang Power.
 * "The seals were the only power that the manga and databook stated was given to them. Nothing else. How hard is this to comprehend?"
 * No, they were not. It was stated in chapter 674 from the RAW translation by Sasuke, claiming he'd use the Six Paths Power to combat Madara. He also attributed the damage Madara's shadow got from Naruto to the Six Paths Sage Chakra in the same chapter, stated from the RAWS. We trust our translators since they are the ones that look at the information straight from the source. And once again, if they got their powers from the seals, why do they still have them after they lose said seals, hm? 06:11, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * "And he utilized the only Six Paths Power that Hagoromo was shown and stated to give in order to do so. The Six Paths Yin. What you just said made no sense whatsoever."
 * Nope. Manga specifically used the terms Six Paths Power (without Yin) and Six Paths Sage Chakra, which supersedes anything you get from Viz.
 * "Hagoromo made the seals. They contain his chakra as shown by Kaguya. Again I ask, why is this so hard to comprehend?"
 * You gotta source that says Hagoromo made them alone? If they are exclusively from his own chakra, how does Hamura, who has his own unique chakra, have the Yin seal? Hm? And you still failed to answer my question: if Naruto and Sasuke got their powers from the seals, why do they still have them after they lose said seals? 06:24, August 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * "Stop with the mental gymnastics. It's old and tiresome. There were no seals on Hagoromo's hands before he gave them to Naruto & Sasuke, therefore he manifested them anew from his own chakra."
 * Not mental gymnastics. Also, highly hypocritical of you to claim I'm ignoring everything you're saying, when multiple times you're not answering the questions I posed to you. Manifested them anew, huh? You gotta a source that states that? Because he could have gotten them from Hamura centuries ago, we don't know.
 * "There is no reason that Sasuke's Rinnegan would disappear after it's awakened. None whatsoever. Dojutsu don't just magically fade away after the source of the chakra that awakened them are gone. The Rinnegan produces it's own chakra."
 * Took you a while to figure that out. The Rinnegan produces its own chakra, which is not the chakra from the Six Paths Yin Power. Wow, that took you a while.
 * "As stated, Naruto having the chakra of all the Biju makes him a human pillar for the power of Ten Tails. The power of Ten Tails is Six Paths senjutsu. There was no reason for him to lose his power either."
 * Yes, indeed, Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode could come from the chakra of the tailed beasts (even though a non-canon source states that and is irrelevant), not the chakra of the Six Paths Yang Power. Man, you finally figured it out. 06:47, August 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * "The seals are not on his hands when he is talking to Naruto & Sasuke, so how would one even begin to claim that Hagoromo was wielding Hamura's seals when they were clearly not there? The seals were manifested anew for the simple reason that they were not on his hands prior."
 * Never claimed that, if you read carefully. And I still see no source brought up from you. And I'm taking what's stated directly from the manga in chapter 674 with the terms Six Paths Power and Six Paths Sage Chakra. It isn't like you have proven you can read Japanese text, so how can you claim what it says? We have trusted translators who confirm the text for us. You have not even brought up a specific chapter of the manga nor a specific page of the databook, and you're trying to imply you're not making claims?
 * "Makes no sense whatsoever that the Rinnegan would be the source of it since all of his Chidori do not possess Six Paths Power. The Rinnegan's chakra isn't even senjutsu anyway while the Six Paths Chidori that Sasuke used is senjutsu making this point completely moot."
 * Are you serious? Senjutsu? Where is your source for that? Where does it specifically say that Sasuke was using senjutsu in the Chidori he used to impale Madara? Seriously? No, seriously answer that, since you don't like it when stuff's ignored, tell me where it says Sasuke's Chidori is senjutsu.
 * "Clearly Sasuke wasn't referring to the Six Paths Power on his palm that Hagoromo gave him? He clearly wasn't referring to what the panel specifically zooms in on right? The same seal that was stated and shown by Kaguya to contain Hagoromo's chakra right? Because that couldn't possibly make any sense."
 * Kishi would not purposely call it the "Six Paths Power" for no reason in chapter 674. The fact of the matter is, the power Sasuke used was never stated to be the "Six Paths Yin Power". There was no "Yin" in that statement, yet you claim there was.
 * "What you basically said: Naruto can produce Six Paths senjutsu due to the Biju, therefore his Six Paths Sage mode wasn't a product of Hagoromo's chakra(Six Paths Power of Light) despite direct statement. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tell me how this makes any sense whatsoever and don't ignore it since I know that you have a habit of doing that."
 * I sarcastically said it could come from the tailed beast chakra, if you read what I said carefully. Never said it did. Of course Naruto's SPSM comes from Hagoromo's chakra. Never stated to come from the Six Paths Yang Power though.
 * "The novels are part of the story due to Shueisha, a rights holder to the series, putting them into the continuity. Your definition of canon is wrong. That is not how the term is supposed to be used. The term is so blatanly misused by basically every fandom that it's appalling. All works of Naruto of canon. The only canon that exists is canonicity to the franchise."
 * Canon is dictated by the author, not the company that writes their own stories based on the author's characters. If all works of Naruto were canon, do you have any idea how much information wouldn't make sense? For instance, the manga flat out stated that Minato invented the Rasengan, yet in the anime, Asura is shown using the Rasengan. And you say that's canon, despite the manga's statements? Please. 07:43, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in, but why did you never give an actual source for your claims? Like, databook 4, page 200 or so? It would make things much easier, because I own the Japanese version and could tell you what exactly it says. Unless your claims are based on the VIZ translation of the books? - Seelentau Talk 10:59, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Please stop with the huge amounts of white-space on talkpages. Use colons to indent your comments. I and others of the wiki are not going to indefinitely keep fixing your messages to the proper formatting. --Sajuuk 15:19, August 20, 2016 (UTC)