Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25409224-20140913064011/@comment-24649454-20141010103826

@ItachiWasAHero Naruto also had almost all his powers gifted to him, as did Nagato and pretty much any other OP character so don't bother using that against Sasuke.

You also have no proof that Nagato had to awaken the Rinnegan again, he just couldn't control them, nor do you know when the eyes were transplanted. Obito didn't transplant both eyes purely so he could use his Kamui as well, not because he couldn't handle it, in fact he showed less fatigue than Nagato by a mile.

As for the Chibaku Tensei's, the ones Sasuke made were able to contain 9 Bijuu (8 and half technically) whereas Nagato couldn't contain 1 (half of 1 technically). Nagato's was therefore clearly less powerful and you can't judge the size really. Plus Sasuke did it almost effortlessly unlike Nagato. Yes he was an Uzumaki but not being an Uchiha, the Rinnegan used a lot more chakra than it did for Madara, Obito or Sasuke.

Sasuke also has more more Rinnegan techniques than Nagato from what we can tell, and he has more control over it (such as making the Bijuu's the centre of masses and how quickly he mastered Chibaku Tensei). Nagato was barely able to make 1 anyway so I doubt he could make 9, and stop with the city destruction as an excuse for why he couldn't do it with ease, Sasuke has done just as much in the war if not more; fights with countless White Zetsu, Kabuto, the Juubi, Obito as a Jinchuuriki, Madara, Madara as a Jinchuuriki and of course Kaguya.

Kabuto only ever stated that he devised a new Medical Ninjutsu based off of studying Hashirama's cells, not that he ever implanted any into Sasuke.

Sasuke has never showed fatigue ever since getting EMS btw, he only took Naruto's chakra because he insisted on giving it to him, not because he needed it.

As for plot, every character is there to serve the plot and that's it so don't even go there, it's not in-universe, you could make the same argument for literally anything otherwise.

The Sannin were also a lot less powerful when they fought Hanzo compared to what they are in part II.

There's also no proof that Nagato had any of Hagoromo's chakra; fan theory based on speculation < assumptions < logical deductions < fact. Personally I never go any farther back than logical deductions.

As for Nagato being ill, that was his own fault for over reliance on the Gedo Mazo statue, not any actual illness. Nagato himself said that during his Pain fight against Jiraiya he would have lost if Jiraiya had known his abilities from the off, taking the unfair advantage away from Pain in terms of information.

Don't get me wrong, I don't underestimate Nagato, he's one of my favorite characters and I think he's easily one of the most powerful in the series but as it is now he is nothing compared to Sasuke's current level.

Sasuke is probably beyond even Madara and Hashirama atm, if not then why was Madara able to defeat Hashi but then not Sasuke (and Naruto) (in all fairness he did have the Juubi inside him though) after he got the Rinnegan? Admittedly, Sasuke before getting power from Hagoromo was weaker than Madara (pre-Jinchuuriki) but as was everyone else; Hashirama, Naruto, Kabuto, Itachi, any of the Kage or Sannin, Nagato, any of the Bijuu...

I don't think I've missed replying to anything, tell me if I have.

And please Actionmanrandell, tell me what is wrong with what I've said rather that just saying it is wrong.

Also when did this thread turn into a "Sasuke vs Nagato" discussion and change from "Naruto vs Sasuke"??