Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-34194151-20180906221811

@Little gen

Fair enough, but as I had been thinking before, I always had the opinion that Hagoromo was more of a jump starter rather than a giver. IMO, sasuke would have developed a rinnegan, just way later in life, because look how long it took madara to get his rinnegan. Sasuke already got hashi cells from kabuto. They didn't have time to wait that long, the end of the world was nearing. Hagoromo just sped up the process. Naruto had mere slivers of the other bijuu chakra. We have seen that the ten tails's development was stunted by only having slivers of the eight tails and nine tails, and it took awhile for it to reach it's true form. Then when madara actually absorbed full bijuus except for half of kurama, look how fast the juubi developed, and he got a significantly different chakra cloak than Juubito different and it was stronger. So imo, for a similiar reason, it took time for naruto to knead the juubi chakra, and hagoromo handwaved the charge up time significantly by giving him his chakra and essentially "gave" him the mode, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have developed RSM on his own with enough time. Even with hagormo's buff, it still took a decent while for the chakra cloak to fully develop. This better reconciles the idea that Madara and obito were users of RSM according to manga, whereas the wiki claims they arent users simply because Hagoromo supposedly gave a "unique" version of the mode himself that doesn't require any juubi chakra. So this was something in the back of my head when I typed the last post. It's pretty ironic actually that Hagoromo "gave" naruto the mode when hagoromo himself isn't listed as a user of this same ridoku sage mode except for when he was a TTJ.