Talk:Gold Dust

"Gold"
Would there be a note that most likely "Gold Dust" is not exactly "golden", as gold is not affect able by magnetism. Humans have a better chance of being magnetic for their iron in the body. VolteMetalic (talk) 17:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was under teh impression that Magnetism Release magentized objects. So that would include non-magnetic ones.Umishiru (talk) 17:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * acutal i looked it up and gold can be, under certain conditions


 * Yeah? under which? VolteMetalic (talk) 17:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Before we get science heavy, please note that Kishi is known for being bad at science.Umishiru (talk) 17:51, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Doesnt matter, tell me :) I want to expand my knowledge of science. VolteMetalic (talk) 18:34, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * All materials are affected by magnetic fields, but in different degrees. Gold is considered diamagnetic. It means that when subjected to a strong magnetic field it is weakly repelled. Thunder God Cid (talk) 19:46, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

In that respect,that would mean that even if Kishi's science is correct in this case, the Fourth would have to be producing an absolutely massive magnetic field to repel all that gold dust, wouldn't he? Not to mention the fat tht despite producing this field nothing in the area is effected aside the gold dust, which would iply a great amount of control directing the fields as well as insane magnitude. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 20:29, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

He could be magnetizing the dust like that other guy from Kumo (I forget his name).--Endomarru (talk) 06:26, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Magnetism
I was under the impression that Kishimoto said he was bad at physics... so it being gold doesn't mean it is not magnetic in the naruto universe. S im A nt 17:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the possibility still exists but Shounen said there was no reference to it being magnetism in the spoiler so he's waiting for the raw. But if we go by the english scan should we just add it and wait for the raw if it says otherwise O.o.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:33, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I really wish he'd try using wikipedia, or any other encyclopaedia for that matter when it comes to science stuff he doesn't know well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:35, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well his kekkei genkei allows him to magnitize stuff the same way toroi magnetized a person the fourth magnetizes golden particles thus being capable to control it. (D.G 23:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC))

Gold Dust?
If Iron Sand is "砂鉄" (Satetsu), shouldn't "砂金" (Sakin) be "Gold Sand"? Or "Iron Dust" and "Gold Dust." Not hugely important, just for consistency purposes. --GoDai (talk) 08:34, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would like to know more about this as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:08, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Blame it on the English for coming up with non-matching terms for these phenomena. 砂金 is the Japanese term for what is called 'gold dust' in English. 砂鉄 is called 'iron sand'. We can't just go about changing the language. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh so they were actual specialized terms. Interesting. Thanks. --GoDai (talk) 19:58, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

More techniques than just a wave?
Turrin here found several more than just the Wave and Third Eye. Shouldn't they be added?
 * This is one reason why I don't like unnamed jutsu, especially for jutsu like his that manipulates an object in different ways. If we must document them I think we should consider them all one jutsu.--Deva 27 00:48, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * He manipulates his dust the same way as Gaara's sand, does Gaara's sand all be classified as one jutsu?--NaruHina fan (talk) 00:58, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * The overwhelming majority of Gaara's techniques are named. For example, we didn't make an article out of that time Gaara used his sand to stop quarreling Allied shinobi when he made his speech. No reason to change that with the Fourth Kazekage. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:15, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * How about we create a 'Gold Dust Manipulation' page and cover the other variations?--NaruHina fan (talk) 01:26, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe at least create a gold dust shield since he used something like that to block Gaara's Sand Hail. Just a thought. Darksusanoo (talk) 01:32, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * So do we have the okay to create those two techniques?--NaruHina fan (talk) 01:52, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

density of iron, sand and gold
It's a good idea to add in the trivia the comparison between the density of sand, iron and gold. This will give readers a perspective of the materials used by the 3rd, 4th and 5th Kazekages.


 * Silica, the main component of sand, has a density of 2.648 g·cm−3 (g/ml)
 * Iron has a density of 7.874 g·cm−3 (g/ml)
 * Gold has a density of 19.30 g·cm−3 (g/ml)

Therefore, gold is 7.288 times denser than silica (but i used 7.5 in the page), and 2.451 times denser than iron (but i used 2.5 in the page)LordNaruto (talk) 17:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes but exactly how many people are going to understand that or even care when compared to the simple statement "gold is heavier than sand"--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:24, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind this, you did it much more simpler than I had expected.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:30, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I realized, while going through Shounen's translation of the 3rd DB, that Iron Sand actually refers to "Iron Sand" and not Iron grinded into dust form. Chemically, the substance "Iron Sand" is different from Iron. And it's composed mostly of Magnetite and a bit of Hematite; just like sand is composed mostly of Silica and Quartz. So the density that should be used is the density of Magnetite/Hematite instead of Iron.
 * Magnetite: 5.17 g/ml
 * Hematite: 5.25 g/ml
 * Since the density of both would yield identical ratios, anyone of the above can serve.

Therefore, the trivia should go like this: "Gold is approximately 7.3 times denser than silica, the main component of sand; and about 3.7 times denser than magnetite, the main component of Iron Sand." LordNaruto (talk) 02:32, August 30, 2011 (UTC)