Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170513174308/@comment-734582-20170524210258

Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Could he? Madara barely had the chakra to use sharingan. A preactivated Izanagi saved his ass despite him having used KURAMA in that fight and still he didn't win. . And for argument sake we consider that madara could have won, why didn't he do it? Afterall he could have easily remodeled the village to his INFNITE TSUKUYOMI dream rather than wait for years to actually do it. Because he wanted to disappear. If he'd won, he'd be infamous. If he tried to get back to the village, he couldn't grab power because they already lost faith in him. Tobirama would be instantly made second hokage. Considering the threat projection, it's possible that all five nations would band against him. There would've been no point in winning (well, maybe bragging rights). Madara's only goal was to obtain some of Hashirama's cells. After that he could disappear and develop his plan in secret, including finding possible new allies like Nagato and Obito.

Kakashisologod1 wrote: Thing is,people act like raw power is everything. Aside from being straight up more powerful than Itachi, Madara is also battle-hardened from a young age and is older and more experienced than Itachi.

The only thing that keeps these kinds of discussions alive are wild extrapolations about Itachi's power and vague interpretations of databook claims that simply have no foundation in the manga.

Yata mirror blocked some explosive kunai. Totsuka sealed two stationary targets. Itachi could use Tsukuyomi twice, which already caused Kisame to warn him of eye overuse. Madara on the other hand has no eye drawbacks. He also fought against hashirama for a full day, despite Hashirama being comparable to a Kurama jinchuriki in power.

Madara is canonically the second strongest man in the world. Itachi's feats are defeating Orochimaru, who isn't even the strongest ninja in the world, and who was obsessed to the point of reckless with itachi. He ran from a Sannin, he thought Kakashi was enough of a threat to use Tsukuyome, and his strongest attack isn't even comparable to a fairly regular PS attack. BlazeRelease wrote: That said, I don't believe that EMS Madara could beat MS healthy Itachi in a full on 10/10 of fights. MS Itachi still has powerful on him so he still can manage a 4/10 wins against EMS Madara. There's no doubt about that. We have no idea what a healthy itachi looks like. The only facts we know is that he could've dodged a rigged Shuriken. there isn't any indication that a healthy Itachi would be orders of magnitude stronger.