Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-6769189-20200820032258

David Kibasennin: Toriyama got rid of scouters because they killed the tension due to the audience being told who is stronger(and by extension, the winmer) before the fight even starts.

Even authors think about a character's power in relation to other characters. This why power has escalated as the series went on. A "Kage level" fight was the reltively tame Orochimaru vs Hiruzen but by the end of the series, "Kage level" meant swapping hands with Bijuu.

Suggesting that the authors somehow dont care for the continuity of power in a battle shonen series is by far one of the silliest things ever said.

Even more silly than that is to say that they are incapable of keeping continuity of their own series.

Even more silly than that is to suggest that new information isnt canon simply because it is contradictory. If it is revealed in the series that Nagato and Karin are siblings, its canon whether we like it or not.

That is called a retcon. Writers can go back and change things as they need to better suit the story they are telling now. Its not always done well but it is canon.

The Star Wars example is an outright fallacy. By nature of not having come to fruition, then it is not canon, even of the author said. This does not equate to the current situation in which these ideas/statements were compiled, edited, and published as the final product for the purpose of either being the story or elaborating on the story

Sidd77 wrote:

Kinshiki doesn't exactly need to split a planet to be a planet splitter, the same way Naruto and Sasuke don't have to destroy a continent to be contitnent busters. The difference between the two is that, we know that Naruto and Sasuke can destroy a continent. We know Kinshiki can split a planet. The creators of the character and story told us so. Explicitly

Sidd77 wrote:

One Rasengan and Chidori clash destroyed most of the VotE. It would make sense that a Naruto and Sasuke who are now in their prime, would be able to destroy a country. Thats a prettybig leap

Sidd77 wrote:

Kinshiki on the other hand, isn't the same case. People are severely underestimating what splitting a planet means. It's not 'Kinshiki didn't aim at the ground therefore planet wouldn't have been splitted', because that doesn't make sense. Splitting a planet requires tons upon tons of raw power. Not necessarily explosive power. Look at Toneri, a focused blast that split the moon only where it actually made contact with it. You are conflating an attacks Area Of Effect with the power of the attack itself.

Sidd77 wrote:

Look at Madara's Susano'o, one swing can level mountains without the sword even touching them. You mean the mountains that he directed his attack at?

Sidd77 wrote:

Kinshiki's biggest strength feat is splitting a God Tree smaller than the one on Earth. You mean the Kinshiki who had the flesh of an arm torn off, was weakened, dazed, and could barely stand?? When he wasnt trying trying to destroy the planet they were on?

Sidd77 wrote:

The one on Earth was bisected by a lava rasenshuriken, does that make the lava rasenshurikin planet level? Obviously not. You keep conflating the strongest feat we witnessed with the characters strongest capabilities. Which he have been informed is higher