Talk:Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall

Info change
There's no such thing as simultaneous use of different hand seals, can someone correct them? I don't know in which chapter Sandaime used it in the battle against Orochimaru. Omnibender - Talk 23:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

'Also, for a Kage-class shinobi it is possible to create a vast volume of earth'
How do we not know that a vast volume is not made all the time? Granted the more chakra used the more will probably be created, but how do we know that a large amount is a not a prerequisite? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 20:45, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * That sentence was almost literally taken from my translation of this technique's databook article. --ShounenSuki (talk 21:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. Do you have a link to that? Thomas Finlayson (talk) 22:03, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Links to all my translations and such are on my user page. --ShounenSuki (talk 22:15, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Thomas Finlayson (talk) 22:35, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Pain's usage
Is this not just pure speculation? For as far as I can see its a direct result of his Chibaku Tensai, he did not use seperate handseals nor did he call out its name to be precise. Keibatsu (talk) 16:36, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Talk:Nagato. ~SnapperTo 18:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Name
Is it a literal translation? In other occasions "doryū" is translated as "earth flow".--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:41, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've asked ShounenSuki this is the past, the 流 kanji can mean both "flow" and "style", among other things, so the translation depends pretty much on the context. Like fall. Depending on the context, it can mean either autumn or literally falling down. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:45, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:49, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Omoi
That one kumo shinobi who was using the technique on page 14 looks a lot like Omoi. What do you think? Enough to list him as a user or not?94.135.129.169 (talk) 10:37, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Every named member of the alliance should be listed since she linked to all of them--Elveonora (talk) 10:44, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh lord, that would be...Shouldn't we list just all who were seen using it for a start? At least Sakura didn't use it since she was healing Naruto at that time94.135.129.169 (talk) 10:46, May 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * We should only list those who are known for being able to use it, in regards to the list of users (basically keeping it as is). As for the article itself, it's more than fine to just mention something alluding to the fact nearly every Shinobi Alliance member can use it. And as for Omoi, there's no way to know who it is without seeing the face, so no.--98.101.165.89 (talk) 10:59, May 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll have to agree with keeping the list as is and simply put in the fact that everyone in shinobi alliance now knows the jutsu.--JUP173R (talk) 11:04, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fist of all, let me say that Kishimoto pulled a bullshit with this one, which makes Naruto's Wind Training totally useless. As for Omoi, how about we wait for at least several days before adding huh?--Omojuze (talk) 11:22, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * It didn't, you still confuse 3 things. Ability to do something, knowledge how to do something and skill to successfully do something. Everyone has ability to do Doton or all five natures for that matter, they were taught the knowledge through Ino's telepathy from Kitsuchi and apparently all or most of them are skilled enough to pull out a basic Doton technique. For the topic, you are still missing the fact that there are still many named/known members of the alliance, so no putting it to their infobox/abilities section would be weird. I agree we should list only those who we saw not being occupied otherwise, like not Sakura because she was healing Naruto and she possibly doesn't have skill to do it, but what about people like Hinata Hyuga, Kiba Inuzuka, Kankuro, Hohato Hyuga, Ittan, Kiri, Omoi, Sai, Tango, Zaji, Shizune, C, Darui, Kotetsu Hagane, Hiashi Hyuga, Izumo Kamiziki, Tenten, Karui, Might Guy, Ensui Nara, Temari, Shino Aburame? If we list them or not, we assume either way they are/aren't skilled to do it--Elveonora (talk) 12:26, May 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Regarding the names you listed, all of them are generally skilled in ninjutsu, as any shinobi is, so it wouldn't be surprising many of them, if not all, did. The only one we can assume without a doubt cannot would be Rock Lee. But we also didn't see the people listed. The only (new) people I remember seeing are Ino, Chouji, and Shikamaru. As for Sakura, she could, I would imagine, given her training, but that's irrelevant per the topic. I still stand by keeping the list as is and MAYBE making a reference in the article itself (not sold on it, myself).--98.101.165.89 (talk) 12:41, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * What about listing earth style wall as Shinobi Alliance jutsu in general? That would do--Elveonora (talk) 12:56, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes we should add it to the shinobi alliance jutsu list --ROOT 根 (talk) 16:01, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

I thought it was already added?Norleon (talk) 16:03, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Omoi isn't user, because Kumo shinobi hasn't sword at his back and Omoi has.82.200.192.242 (talk) 03:11, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * YOu're right, he has no sword on his back, so it can't be him. Somebody who has an account needs to remove the earth release from his infobox.94.135.129.169 (talk) 09:50, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding who should or should not be listed as having used the earth barrier, please see my comment in the chapter's talk page. There's no point in repeating myself here. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:35, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

not the same technique/s
The hand seals used by one group of folks in 630 are: Ram, Tiger, Dog, Serpent. By the other group, it was: Ram, Serpent, Dog, Serpent. So not only what they used isn't this technique, but they used 2 different techniques--Elveonora (talk) 17:30, May 16, 2013 (UTC)