Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-46828725-20200910033310/@comment-35409024-20200924012616

@BloodOfTheArchon

Lol, that's your counter? Sad argument. The series states Madara ems is equal to Hashirama. Unless something is shown or stated afterwards that proves it false, then it stays a fact. Lol, I literally gave you a statement from the author himself and it still isn't good enough. You're clearly biased if you are gonna reject a fact with no evidence that supports you. All your "counters" are theories that conflict with the series and thus proven false.

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Itachi literally said all he would need is the EMS to surpass Madara and it showed the Madara from the VotE when he said that, he went on to say the current Madara is a shell of what he once was so Itachi was clearly referring to EMS Madara, and saying that he would only need the EMS to surpass him.

Actually no it didn't. The panels show Itachi talking about how he created the Akatsuki and then the Ninetails attack on Konoha and stating how the 4th stopped him. Then he proceeded to say he shall surpass Madara. It wasn't showing the real Madara at all in those panels. Not to mention, Itachi has never met Madara nor does he know his power. He knows Obito as Madara. He also calls him his mentor and when referring to the one to surpass, he is talking about him according to your logic since the panels showcase Obito, not Madara.