Talk:Fū

Beaver Badger?
I'm on youtube looking at Bijuu videos and they are saying the seven tailed is a Beave Badger? Where is all this coming from???
 * From thier own imagination. Jacce | Talk 05:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

That there is a fine piece of fan crack made up by one particularly imaginative fangirl.

Erm...Gender
Thats a male, not a female. She doesn't even have breasts, whats wrong with you?
 * Last time I checked lack of breasts in anime or manga was an extremely poor signal for saying someone was a guy. Last time I checked in part I even Sakura had no distinction drawn for breasts. Flat, or not distinctly drawn, it's no signal that someone is a guy. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) May 6, 2009 @ 19:11 (UTC)
 * Erm, sakura does have breasts and mentioned in many filler. And why does that auctomatically make him a girl? HE has NO hips, NO breasts, heck there are male characters with longer hair than that. Dude, 'I' was the one who said that Itachi is probably a good guy making a villain out of himself for the sake of Konoha, and was I right? Yes. I was the one who guessed that Zuko would have a prodigy younger sister, and I was right. Obviously I am right here too, but I don't even see why this is up for debate when that is clearly a boy. L2see.
 * If this is going to be debated, then we're just marking this off as unknown as it should be. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) May 7, 2009 @ 19:36 (UTC)
 * * Cough* *Cough* I think this Jinchuriki is a female. While lacking breasts (which despite what some want to believe, is NOT a viable indicator if someone is male or female), she has noticeable female hips (as seen in the Jinchuriki collage picture. Regardless is regardless, I removed the gender identifiers until we get it figured out.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know what TheUltimate is talking about. What hips? HIS hips are less noticable than Sasukes, so I guess he is actually a she all along too huh? You're thinking of THIGHS, not hips.
 * I'm Goin with the ultimate....it clearly looks like a girl....but u cant say with anime..just look at Haku!!!...but if i had to guess...i'd say girl...mite as well wait for mre info to be out on this before decidin...i hardly think votes count in this one..AlienGamer | Talk 18:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * First of all, I agree with Dantman. If there is confusion about this jinchūriki's gender, it should be marked as unknown.
 * That said, I'd like to point out two things.
 * The jinchūriki has no noticeable breasts. Not even the slightest curve can be seen in the jinchūriki's shirt.
 * The jinchūriki's waist and hips are drawn the same as Sai's.
 * --ShounenSuki (talk 19:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * To be fair, The picture is from the front and the arms are blocking the important parts. Also, You can't tell Part 2 Tenten and Sakura have breast from the front either. So you can't really judge on that. Rikudou Latios63.214.229.47 (talk) 01:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can see enough of the jinchūriki's chest to tell there's no curvature. About Tenten and Sakura... at least with Sakura, you can easily tell the curves of her breasts in colour pictures, even in part 1. Her hips and waist are clearly female, even in black-and-white pictures. --ShounenSuki (talk 06:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I think the Jinchuriki is a girl. One) We don't know the Jinchuriki's age, so it could be possible that their body isn't at the age where it shows changes. I know what you are going to say, that the Jinchuriki looks like they is at least Naruto's age and SHOULD show some female traits, but I have learned in my life that girls sometimes look older than they actually are, or sometimes reverse. And I have seen 15 year old girls that don't have much "female traits" as you people put it. Two) This could be a possible effect of being a Jinchuriki for the Seven-Tails. >> There have been stranger things, I mean Nagato just took a page out of Dragon Ball and revived a whole bunch of damn people! Three) Some other reason that we don't know about. While I do think this, I am willing to sit and wait until they tell what gender the Jinchuriki is, so those of you who are arguing that the Jinchuriki is a guy, PLEASE just wait until more information on them is released and we finally know what gender the Jinchuriki is.--Juubi no Ryuu (talk) 01:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I still can't see why you say there's no curvature. Both arms are blocking any view of the sides. But I guess it would make sense to just wait til either the Artbook or the 4th databook come out. Rikudou Latios63.214.229.59 (talk) 21:54, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Breasts curve in the middle of the chest as well. If the jinchūriki had breasts, there would have been clear curves and shadow in the middle of her chest showing the shape of her breasts. There is none. Not even the slightest hint of shadow or curves. Combining this and the fact that the jinchūriki's hips and waist are drawn the same as Sai's brings me to the conclusion that the jinchūriki is male. --ShounenSuki (talk 01:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Last time I checked, there are girls who are very flat chested. Also, the facial curve seems feminene enough. --User:Hanapache 9:33, 30,May 2009 (UTC)
 * And since this discussion has absolutely no point, it ends now. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) May 31, 2009 @ 17:34 (UTC)

Err, I have a picture of the seven tailed demon. Is there a page for the demon so I can put it up there?--92.29.51.199 (talk) 22:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

^^That was me by the way. I don't think boys wear skirts that short. So I think it's a girl.--Inferuno Ryuu (talk) 23:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Helllooo!?! Karui has no boobage....but she's still a girl!! >_<

Yeah, uh, It's a girl, the 2nd artbook had a picture of 'him' wearing a damned skirt and a very female pose, and it just plain looks like a girl. Not all chicks have giant Tsunade size, --75.179.16.63 (talk) 23:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, uh, if you hadn't noticed, this discussion was closed long before the artbook had come out. Even so, the artbook you are using to prove Fū's gender also notes that Kishimoto himself hasn't even made up his mind about it. Although she's considered a girl for now, she could just as easily be a boy next time. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a girl, both Karui and Karin have no breasts, 'he' is wearing a skirt, and has a very female pose in the 2nd data book. It's a girl. And we can't really bring up the 'Haku looks like a girl' topic because Haku was SUPPOSED to look like a girl, and Deidara's gender was confused because of a typo,
 * Thank you for your input, but this issue was already resolved. The second artbook literally states Fū is a girl, at least for the time being. --ShounenSuki (talk 00:45, September 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually it states that all Kishimoto was sure about is Fū's gender, it's everything else that he (at the time) isn't sure about74.70.156.133 (talk) 00:34, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's Viz's translation. ~SnapperTo 00:39, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * And they're translation's shouldn't be used? Viz's Translation's have been proven to be much more accurate to Author's true meanings then fan translation's(Bleach anyone? Soul Reaper vs Death God? Might Guy vs Maito Gai?)74.70.156.133 (talk) 00:48, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm already aware that Viz is better than your run-of-the-mill scanlation. However, they can still omit or gloss over things. For example, they cut out the mention of a third Mangekyo user in chapter 225. ~SnapperTo 01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * True enough but IMHO it would make more sense that Kishimoto wouldn't be sure about the finer details of the character then he would if they were male or female. That's why I have to give Viz the upper hand in this situation.74.70.156.133 (talk) 01:32, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * As much as I respect Viz's translations, if they stated that Kishimoto-sensei was actually sure about Fū's gender, they made a mistake. The second artbook literally states that . The use of the word indicates that Kishimoto-sensei still hasn't truly decided on her gender yet and it could change at any given time. —ShounenSuki (talk 14:07, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * This is the exact quote from the Artbook: "The basic concept of the Seven Tails is a bug. I made the exoskeleton of the bug look more like armor and made the wings part of its tail. The Jinchuriki is a girl, but other then that, I haven't really decided on anything about her.(LOL)" Now forgive me but I'm more willing to believe that Kishi knows the Gender of a character he made then not.74.70.153.169 (talk) 00:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * We're more inclined to believe Shounensiki over you..sorry that's just how it is. Anyway, take a good look at the character and tell me what defines her as a girl from her appearance, please also take into consideration how characters are drawn on a whole. Gender from close inspection is ambiguous at best.--Cerez™☺ 00:09, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Guys, if you did not realize she is smiling, cheerful, "bouncing", and has a clip on hair, hellooooo! Maybe she has no breasts because it is still too young, or have changes in hormones ... It uses a short skirt and sleeveless shirt and has belly out and you can see is that a woman's belly (no comments for Sai) ... A girl, of course ...


 * Accessories isn't a good enough differential. Men can be smiling, cheerful, "bouncing". It's not a skirt, it's an apron, Neji wears one as well. Sai and Shin had their "bellies out" I'm assuming you mean a lack of pronounced abdominal muscles yes O.o Kishimoto isn't too big on drawing abs or nipples if I remember correctly, hence why you consider it a woman's belly--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 23:58, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * XD I forgot the muscles, but Sakura let that go, right? So, you think "it" is a girl?? And I forgive about skirts ... and "belly"(it's a woman belly) ... and ... My OC uses a skirt like Neji 's and fishnets too ...But, of course, literally, quantum-physically(I created this word...Erm, my country created(not a official word), physically, bodily speaking, it is a girl ... XD. I'll draw and put my OC in my images ok??(sorry for being slow to respond)(sorry, I don't know how to write in the Talk pages, but I made all letters of this, I and Google Translate) 189.17.31.16 (talk) 16:40, October 11, 2011 (UTC)Konohagakureshinobi

13:37, Otober 11, 2011 (UTC-3) Just to inform those who are like to know more opinions than just ShounenSuki's. Translation from takL (native Japanese speaker): "in the artbook Kishi says "The concept of shichbi(7b) is an insect/insects. Sorta like with the exoskeleton on the insect/insects as the armour. i made the tails with the wings. The Jinchuriki is a girl in a fashion. Other than those, the details arnt fixed yet(lol)"."Faust-RSI (talk) 08:17, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to lessen takL's credit, while I understand he is a native Japanese speaker, I'm less than impressed by his English. They feel less polished to me, cruder. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:37, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. But nevertheless, the point/essence is perfectly understandable, at least for me.Faust-RSI (talk) 10:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * How exactly is that any different than what is currently in Fū trivia note?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 12:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * You've almost answered that yourself by adding new info into personality section. In takL's version, Kishi says straightly that Fuu is a girl. But girl in a fashion. What does it mean, in a fashion? Her appearance, her behaviour, even her manner of speech (ssu) - everything has something boyish. Because she is a tomboy. That was the whole Kishi's point of that comment.Faust-RSI (talk) 16:01, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I still don't see what's the difference between what takL said and what's there O.o? If anything takL's translation makes it sound more like Fū was meant to be an effeminate boy not a tomboy. In any case other than the fact that Fū was recently drawn with what appeared to me to be more effeminate expressions, I've really lost the point of this discussion.--Cerez365™ 16:07, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Her gender should be obvious from first observation. What kind of boy wears a hair barrette? BHM1250 (talk) 18:38, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's actually not that uncommon in Japan… —ShounenSuki (talk 19:08, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not trying to discuss her gender. It really was obvious from first observation. What I'm discussing is the translations. Both Viz and takL says the last line is "Other than those, the details aren't fixed yet". Viz says the line before that is "The Jinchuriki is a girl". takL adds "in a fashion". We can interpret this addition differently, but it obvious that this and "Other than those, the details arn't fixed yet" when put together makes 3 different results: Viz just ignores the part in question, ShounenSuki says Kishi isn't sure what is the gender of his own character and takL says Fuu is tomboy/effeminate boy.Faust-RSI (talk) 20:41, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Name
He\She's name is Fuu.

gohanRULEZ (talk) 09:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Take a good look at our naming policy. You're citing the difference between wapūro romaji and hepburn romaji. We use hepburn here, thus the name is "Fū". ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) Jul 5, 2009 @ 06:40 (UTC)

Hey...
Why does this page redirect from the discussion page about the other Fu? From the Anbu? --Hasofcd (talk) 19:58, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

The internal link wasn't associated properly.Chase Network (talk) 03:18, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

another twist...
the meeting between taka and akatski hadn't changed except,in the anime,i belive madara said they had tailed beasts 1-6,did that mean they have another filler 4 the 7th tailed beast or what's going on? and did they go back in time,since the 6-tails is alive right now?????

Kisame said they were missing 3 beasts in the anime, the Six-Tails, the Eight-Tails, and the Nine-Tails, in the manga they were only missing 2. Once this arc is done and the Six-Tails is captured it will follow the manga again.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 23:35, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Dead or Alive?
I just want closure on this. Is Fu dead or alive?

Dead. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I've been looking over some pages concerning the tailed beasts and I saw on the 'Sealing Jutsu: Nine Phantom Dragons' page that the beasts had to be sealed in order. Utakata is still active, which implies that Fu is still alive.--WikiShark (talk) 23:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

The only order they said is that the Nine Tails has to be sealed last. Because its power is so great, if it were to be sealed before, that statue would break. It would seem that the more beasts sealed, the more stable/powerful/resistant the statue becomes. Plus, in the anime they already said there were three beasts left, those being Six, Eight and Nine Tails, meaning Utakata, Killer B and Naruto are still around. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:39, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's correct, from what I can gather the sealing order is (5 or 7), 1, 2, (4 or 3), 6, 8, 9 with the numbers in brackets either switching order depending on manga or anime or weren't shown.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 00:10, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * And in the manga, Three Tails is sealed before Two Tails, Four Tails is the seventh beast to be sealed. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the only inconsistency I dislike.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 01:01, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

so then if there atleast tryin 2 reveal one of them,shouldnt they say how/when(atleast) 5 and 7 were sealed,sense it'd only b fair 2 the fans 4 one...
 * In the manga, either 5 and6, 6 and 7, or 5 and 7 were sealed first, followed by 1. Then, while Naruto was busy hunting for Sasuke, they sealed either 5,6, or 7, depending on who was left. Then, 3 and 2 were sealed, followed by 4. Now, only 8 and 9 are left.
 * In the anime, it is the same, except that 6 will be sealed after 4. Hope this clears up all confusion.--Enoki911 (talk) 06:30, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * In the manga, 5, 6 & 7 was sealed before 1, then they sealed 3 and 2, then 4, then they started chase 8 and 9. Jacce | Talk 06:41, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Only two eyes were open before Gaara so only two were sealed before him. Unless the manga contradicts something in the Anime it's true.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 15:37, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Order of Captured Jinchuuriki
According to Deidara they already captured 2 jinchuuriki and the third was Gaara. So gaara is catpured then three tails then Yugito (Two-Tails) then Roshi (Four Tails) then Utakata (Six-Tails) and so when Madara mentions that Killer Bee and naruto are the only ones left that makes seven so Fu and han were the first two Jinchuuriki to be captured. Deidara also said that the first two loathed humanity so Fu and Han must have hated humanity so should that be added onto their respective pages?
 * They were the first just in the anime. In the manga, one was captured after Shukaku and before Two and Three Tails. We don't know those where. It's impossible to determine exactly who was captured and when. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:17, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Personality
Should she have a personality section? By making Utakata the most recently caught jinchūriki, Fū would be one of the jinchūriki mentioned by Deidara, the ones who loathed humanity. We added it to Han's article, so this one should also have it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:17, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * There should be an "in the anime" qualifier. ~SnapperTo 20:19, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure. But a sysop will have to do it, page is protected. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:40, June 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Will you please put reference on it? Which episode? KazeKitsune (talk) 03:35, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's really an indirect statement. Deidara says that Akatsuki's first two jinchuriki were bundles of joy, and in the anime Han and Fu would need to be said jinchuriki. ~SnapperTo 19:25, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Possibly a Tranny?
To be honest I belive Fuu is a tranny. I mean the depictions of transsexuals and cross-dressers in japan is different from the western view. She/he obviosly has a man body, but has a woman's face and clothing.
 * Her body could easily go either way and Kishimoto-sensei actually stated he was uncertain of her gender himself, making her female for the time being. She's probably supposed to be somewhat ambiguous. —ShounenSuki (talk 18:41, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * He/She might be his way of cashing in the whole Crona from Soul Eater thing. --The Great and Grand Count Mall!(Bow down before me!) 20:44, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

A note on Fuu
I think we should note she is the only jinchuuriki that Kishi has given no information on combat skills
 * Only to have to remove it again as soon as Kishimoto-sensei does show her abilities? —ShounenSuki (talk 22:10, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Picture
Why is there no picture of her in her infobox when the anime has come out with a pic of her?Fishboy144 (talk) 19:35, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. There's a "debate" going on about pictures right now. The manga picture will likely be put back up there shortly.Ryne 91 (talk) 19:38, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lock page was locked for debate apparently. --Cerez™☺ 19:38, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Rinnegan and Sharingan
Shall we add these to the abilities of the jinchuuriki that recieved them?
 * No it's part of Madara's power. They're just like mindless robots. --Ilnarutoanime 20:16, June 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Though the mindless part depends on how Kabuto bound their souls. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:31, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Mindless has not been prooven. Also its still available to them because they physically have the eye

Relevant?
Hey, I just wanted to ask about this:

http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/313/16

After capturing Yugito, Kakuzu pulls out a map and says "We were assigned to capture one more..." Since he'd just dealt with a Jinchuuriki, and there are four crosses on the map, does that suggest that he was talking about three other Jinchuuriki they had captured? Perhaps the three we don't know about - Fu, Han and Utakata? I don't think he's talking about his own targets, since he says "we were assigned", whereas his bounty hunting was his own little side quest that he hadn't been assigned to do. Just wondering if anyone else felt it might be relevant. 86.161.169.239 (talk) 17:25, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think not, I believe Jinchuuriki's List goes like this:

Gaara was captured by Deidara and Sasori. Yugito was captured by Hidan and Kakuzu. Sanbi was no Jinchuuriki and was captured by Deidara and Tobi. Roshi was captured by Itachi and Kisame. Han was captured by Zetsu. Utakata was captured by Pain and Konan. Fu was captured by Orochimaru and Sasori. Killer Bee and Naruto are still free.

I think it is.

Samemaru (talk) 18:37, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Samemaru, you're taking information from the Portuguese Wikipedia. Don't. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:37, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

So, with Sasmemaru's info disproven, does that mean we can say the implications of that page are that Kakuzu and Hidan had picked up the three unknown Jinchuuriki? It's certainly what the page seemed like it was confirming to me. If I don't get anyone giving a valid reason why it's not possible those three are referring to the three Jinchuuriki, I'm gonna add something to their articles. 109.154.54.241 (talk) 23:03, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think these crosses mean jinchūriki specifically, at least not now. Those are the Land of Frost, Land of Hot Water, and the Land of Sound, none of which have jinchūriki. The one possible explanation for those is that these are the locations of the jinchūriki, as if they were away on missions or something similar. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:10, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's not so impossible they were out on missions, and as I pointed out - Kakuzu says "we were assigned to capture one more", and this is moments after they took down Yugito. As far as I know the only things Akatsuki members are "assigned to capture" are Jinchuuriki, which would suggest the crosses are in fact previous Jinchuuriki, with one of the crosses denoting Yugito's location upon her capture. He also makes reference of going to the Land of Fire - Naruto's location. Everything points to the idea that he was referring to the Jinchuuriki. 109.154.54.241 (talk) 23:50, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * The crosses could easily mean either the places where Kakuzu and Hidan had already looked, or the locations of the captured jinchūriki, regardless of who captured them. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:59, September 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * He didn't just cross out the entire parts of shoreline, he crossed out four precise areas. He didn't cross out the large strip of land between the lowermost cross and the middle cross, suggesting that the crosses do imply specific locations as opposed to a random travel timeline - in fact, according to this wiki's map, that whole long bit is one country, making it redundant to put two crosses in it if they were just denoting which countries they'd gone through. Also, if it denoted all the captured Jinchuuriki without reference to who captured them, it would also include a cross in Sunagakure, but as far as we can see it does not. 109.154.54.241 (talk) 00:06, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * The crosses could just specify which general areas they had already searched, or they could be specific locations that they had some intelligence on and that could possibly hold a jinchūriki. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * The way Kakuzu spoke about it suggested that they'd already captured some, and were moving to the next capture. But if we know that there's a possibility that they were captured in one of those three countries, I think we should add it to the articles. It's incorrect to say we have no clues as to where they were captured, now that we know Kakuzu and Hidan were assigned to capture a couple of Jinchuuriki and that they found enough reason to stick crosses in four locations, after Yugito was captured, which coincides with the three missing Jinchuuriki and Yugito herself. Also, if they were there then it proves not all Jinchuuriki were captured near their villages, as Yugito wasn't even in the land of lightning when she was captured. Kakuzu also pulled the map out after Yugito went down - if it was simply a map denoting locations of interest there would've been no reason to pull it out, since he then said they were headed to the land of fire, which was unmarked as far as we could see - that suggests he got it out to add another cross to it, as he'd have no reason to pull it out otherwise. And again, if it was just marking the countries they'd searched they wouldn't have put two crosses in the same country. 109.154.54.241 (talk) 01:18, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I beileve that Kakuzu captured Fu, since orochimaru was not part of akatsuki since during the chunin exams arc he was part of the sound. Anybody disagree or agree?

They never showed where Yugito was captured I think. Again, all this is highly speculative, so it shouldn't be listed anywhere. And nothing suggests Kakuzu captured Fū. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:01, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's not really that speculative. I mean, it'd make complete sense and it's heavily implied he's talking about the previous Jinchuuriki. Else he'd have no reason to pull out the map, say "we were assigned" and all that good stuff. But, I guess if you don't wanna add it yet that's fine. I, personally, think this clears quite a bit up but it's just a page that got overlooked. Igaram (talk) 14:20, September 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * The duo also did bounties for money to help fill the Akatsuki coffers. So capturing other people may simply be for-hire work. ZeroSD (talk) 21:08, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Both of the things you bring here are nothing less than speculations. If these were Jinchuuriki, why there wasnt added a cross in Sunagakure, as Gaara/Ichibi was already taken by that time? Also, why would Yugito be captured in different country, when she evidently set a trap for them? She was expecting them, and it must have been somewhere where she knew it well. And sewers are especially a place which you must know well to set a trap in. But as said, Yugito's location of capture is not known, so mine is also speculation, like yours.


 * Another thing, why would Kakuzu and Hidan go to Land of Fire to capture Naruto, when Pain said Kyuubi must be the last one to be captured, or Gedou Mazou ruins. Especially when there were two (three) more to go, namely Killer B and Roshi (and Utakata). Which puts us to Utakata's arc, which was "showed" right in the discussion between Pain and Hidan during sealing of Nibi. But the map is the same in both anime and manga, so it cant be much said as fact.


 * Also, it is evident that the individual members are tasked with capturing bijuu, not the duos. Deidara went alone to face Gaara while Sasori only observed him, Kisame fought with Roshi alone, as Itachi evidently wasnt anyhow tired, and Deidara watched as Tobi goes to face Sanbi, but must finished it himself when Tobi started running away. Also, Hidan said it in this way that he was tasked with capturing Nibi. And Sasori said to Deidara that "he didnt found his bijuu yet", which was probably Nibi or Hachibi. The partner acts only as support when the tasked member needs help.


 * And to support the idea that the crosses are prominent people, Pain said during sealing that they needed money, as part of the "first stage of their plan". And Kakuzu was treasurer of Akatsuki's funds. He brought the map after Yugito's defeat simply because their job to capture Nibi was done, so they can go and gain more money for their plan. And they set to Land of Fire because there was Chiriku, with milions of ryo of bounty for his head, a treasure for Akatsuki's afford. And this fact is supported by Deidara, who warned after sealing Hidan about Naruto. Why would he does it if by you Hidan and Kakuzu were tasked with capturing Naruto, so they will have to know who they are looking for? --VolteMetalic (talk) 19:07, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

minor detail point
Fuu spawned two tails not one, at the end of this chapter. you can see the wing growing on the other side

also I would like to note we should including jinchuuriki transformations for Fuu and all other jinchuuriki to show the tails as a form


 * Fixed the first part. About the jinchūriki transformations, we haven't seen them do more than grow (create?) their tails so we don't have anything to place there. Wait until more is shown and we will happily add. Joshbl56  22:09, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Missing forehead protector?
So... on this page it seems like Fū is missing her headband that is suppose to be on her arm. Should we add this to trivia like we did with Kabuto's glasses? Joshbl56 02:17, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just looked trough the manga, and as far as i can see, she havn't actually been wearing it at all since she was resurected.--Cosmikaze (talk) 22:35, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * She has.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 22:41, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just add it to the queue on Talk:Chapter-Tankōbon Differences as a potential error that has not been fixed as of yet, so we don't forget about it. — S im A nt 22:44, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Similar case.
Now, since we don't know what gender Fu is, why in the paragraphs are we calling Fu a "she"? We have the same issue with Ameyuri and yet we aren't calling Ameyuri a "he" or "she". SusanooUnleashed (talk) 10:12, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Kishimoto commented that he hasn't decided what gender Fu has, "but for now, it's a girl". Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:17, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

In chapter 565 she's called as a girl, if I'm not mistaken...--Omojuze (talk) 16:32, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think we can remove the trivia part now. --Elveonora (talk) 16:33, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * They could be using gender-neutral pronouns in the original Japanese, you know. --kiadony --talk to me-- 16:45, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * ^That so we wait for raws.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:25, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the word "she" wasn't the only one evidence shown this chapter, khm... But ok, we should wait a bit Faust-RSI (talk) 18:21, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

On mangareader, the scanlation refers to Fuu as a male in 565 as well as a female interchangably (and theyre translations are generally a lot more accurate than those of mangastream) I think we should note this interchangability in the trivia. On top of this in 565 Fuu has an obvious crotch buldge on one of the panels

Thing
What's the thing/weapon she's carrying, just asking out of curiosity?--Omojuze (talk) 18:59, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Just saying, this is in the article. We don't know yet. Skitts (talk) 19:05, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Transformations page
Assuming that we will see more of her transformations, enough to warrant its own article, how would it be called? I know there's the automated system which links them in the infobox, does that mean we'd have to put the parenthesis in its name as well? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:03, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Seeing as it connects them by name I would guess you will have to unless you change her name and this Fu. Joshbl56  21:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was asking about this, well sorta over here. Please to pree.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 21:32, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

So for this now, I think we should just try O.o and see if it works with the parentheses. I was wondering if because of this we should call the Yamanaka, Fū (ANBU) and her just Fū.--Cerez365™ 02:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm down with that. The only reason ANBU Fu got priority was because at the time, he was the only one in the story. Now he's dead and ignorable and the Jinchuriki Fu has an article that needs linking. I say make the move.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 02:17, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Fuu (Anbu) is not relevant to the story AT ALL at the moment. And I am (and not only me) so tired of constant need to be redirected from his page when I'm searching fot Fuu (jin).Faust-RSI (talk) 06:48, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

GENDER CONFIRMED
Hey, I'm a new contributor who wants to join Narutopedia, and I've been reading your articles for over 2 years now. You guys are real accurate and legit. Getting back to topic about Fū's gender, I think the latest chapter (565) confirms Fū's gender as being female, due to Killer Bee's remark about "her" dodging his attacks. Please respond back.
 * Please, read the topic above, Similar case. We are waiting for the raw at the moment Faust-RSI (talk) 07:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe it goes like this.. You know how with a normal animal you can tell if it's male or female? Well, insects/bugs and such you can't really tell unless you look closely whether it's one or the other. Now considering that the Tailed Beast sealed inside this host is an insect/bug of sorts, maybe it's a similar case? SusanooUnleashed (talk) 11:17, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * That would be rather ironic, seeing how the Seven-Tails is mostly based on the kabutomushi, whose sexual dimorphism is one of the clearest of any species. —ShounenSuki (talk 11:30, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * But even if you look at the translations from Mangastream against Mangareader one uses "her" and the other uses "he" which probably means that a gender neutral pronoun was used and they just chose a sex.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 11:50, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to pop in unannounced, but I've also read the latest chapter. While indeed the personal pronoun varied between her/his, on page 2 Fū has been shown from a quite... intriguing perspective. I highly doubt that Fū is a male, unless Mr. Kishimito is preparing a very unpleasant surprise for us. Just my 2 cents. Lord Galvatron  [[Image:LG_Sig.png|30px]] Do you hear the voices too? 15:14, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, until now it's unclear. --Ilnarutoanime -NejiLoverr- 15:41, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, there is no him or her in the Japanese language.Seelentau 愛議 19:42, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I read a translated version. Take a look at it: http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/565/2. Fū's better gonna be a girl... Lord Galvatron  [[Image:LG_Sig.png|30px]] Do you hear the voices too? 20:22, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Article Title
Did I miss something? Why was this article suddenly moved to Fū? If it's because of the jinchūriki's sudden relevance, wouldn't it be better to keep this article at Fū (Jinchūriki) and make Fū a disambiguation page? Both Fūs really have about the same relevance overall. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * This was done to circumvent a potential technical limitation from infoboxes. The way they create links for jinchūriki transformations page could make Fū's transformations page look very bad. While I think that creating the weirdly named page and redirecting it to the one with a proper title would be a good workaround, it would still be weird having that page. At least to me. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:27, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Was basically my reasoning for the change. As of now. ANBU Fu is dead and irrelevant. Jinchuriki Fu is also dead, but her article is supposed to be linked to her Jinchuriki page. Saw it as the logical choice.--TheUltimate3 ~Keeper of Lore~ 00:11, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Dodge.
"and becomes fast enough to be able to dodge even one of Killer B's attacks."

I'm preeeeetty sure Fu only dodged because the Rinnegan and the field of vision? SusanooUnleashed (talk) 00:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Rinnegan only helps her perceive the attack, she still needs to use her own body to react and get out of the way. Think the first time Sasuke fought Lee. The Sharingan could see all of Lee's attacks, but that's no use if Sasuke himself can't move fast enough to dodge. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:35, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I thought he removed this o.o Anyway, I think I tidied it up O.o--Cerez365™ 00:56, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Update
I have a few questions, first of all what do people mean by raws? Second Is there any update or raw on chapter 565? 119.154.22.220 (talk) 16:46, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Raw" means the chapter that comes out in Japan and in the pages are in Japanese.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 16:48, December 3, 2011 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi
 * Poor raw scans are out. We're basically probably waiting on le Shounensuki to release the updates.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 16:58, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't get it why do people read Japanese chapters when they can read English ones? and shouldn't the Japanese chapters be released first, otherwise how do we get the manga faster, isn't Masashi Kishimoto Japanese? 119.154.22.220 (talk) 17:03, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * The raws are out hours or even days prior to English chapters. And yes, Masashi Kishimoto is Japanese. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 17:04, December 3, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * (editconflict) A lot of stuff gets lost in translation or misinterpreted. For example look at this and this different scanlation houses called Fū her and he, who do we go with? The raws normally allow us to fix those discrepancies. Scanlators get the raws, the public in general doesn't normally have access to them until later on. Lool, manga is Japanese o.o--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 17:08, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * So did ShounenSuki receive the Raw? 119.154.22.220 (talk) 17:27, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * We are not sure yet. He will post the entire script in English translated from Japanese when he receives it. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 17:29, December 3, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

So how much time does he usually take? 119.154.22.220 (talk) 17:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know. You will have to ask him. I'm sorry that I can't be have any help.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 17:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC) KiumaruHamachi

Sure, thanks for answering my question 119.154.22.220 (talk) 17:39, December 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 17:43, December 3, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Though I think he's a tad busy now with other things, he usually gets around to dispensing that information. There's also another upcoming translator here at times.--Cerez365™ 17:49, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

He's translated the stuff. He says" "There isn't a single gender-specific pronoun used throughout the chapter, except for the first-person pronoun オレ." --Cerez365™ 18:41, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

So i suppose Masashi hasn't decided Fu's gender yet huh? 119.154.22.220 (talk) 14:26 December 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, he could've decided on it a long time ago. It's just quite rare to find a gender-specific pronoun in any Japanese text. Except for first-person pronouns, that is. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think Kishi can never specifically address this pseudo-issue of gender. Because he doesn't have to. It's not author's problem that some readers took his joke too literally and others have weird understanding of how the girls should look like (despite of WHAT was shown in chapter 565). He might not even have a clue there are discussions going about it. That's why I think it's a bit pointless to search for some "evidences" in pronouns. Besides, nowhere in the article (in trivia) is mentioned that it was a joke about gender (he wrote "LOL" in the end of that sentence), so it looks like Kishi seriously didn't decide about the gender of his own character. That must be added.Faust-RSI (talk) 07:46, December 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Him writing at the end of that sentence doesn't mean he was making a joke. It just means he finds it rather amusing. —ShounenSuki (talk 11:27, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * And you of course called you old friend Kishi and ask, what he meant, no? Because if no, than it's a joke, because LOL always means a joke Faust-RSI (talk) 11:50, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * But, it's really common knowledge that "lol" has lost its meaning. It doesn't have to mean he's joking about Fū's sex. In the same manner that you claim Shounensuki called Kishimoto, did you give him a ring and ask him what he meant when he used lol?--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 11:59, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * When I'm serious I'm not saying funny things unless I have a schizophrenia, what's so hard to understand? And no, it's not common knowledge at all. You can say he wasn't joking if you like, but you can't say he was seriousFaust-RSI (talk) 12:01, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * You obviously have no idea how often Kishimoto-sensei sticks 笑 after his sentences… You can make humorous comments and still be serious, you know. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:43, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Then Kishimoto has good sense of humour, what is wrong with that? Or he just larky guy, so what? Of course it is possible to make humorous comments and still be serious, but when you write it in a book (art-book in this case), you do it for a reason, for the god sake Faust-RSI (talk) 12:55, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Errr, seriously guys, are we still debating on Fu's gender in spite the fact that Kishi gave us a blatant crotch view in chapter 565? Do we need Kishi to confirm the gender of all his characters via interviews? Besides, that alleged interview response was back in 2009 IIRC and Fu had not yet made an appearance in the manga. We are in late 2011 and Fu has been shown in several panels, 2 of which making it crystal clear that she IS indeed female (unless you guys have some weird concept of a male's anatomy and dress codes in the Narutoverse; and don't give me the Haku or Sai excuse; none of them was running around in a mini skirt). Fu is female. Period. Iyineda (talk)
 * Errrr I think we all saw Fū's crotch, now unless you were looking down her shorts that could easily be a U as much as it's a V.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 13:06, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow... So you are saying, in all seriousness, that you believe Kishi is capable of telling us in the next databook that Fu is a dude, in spite of those very suggestive panel angles/shots? If that's the case, then sorry, I really have nothing else to say here. It's like some of you just want Fu to be male for no valid reason. I'll say this one last time though - since it looks like you guys are basing your doubts mainly on what Kishi said in that alleged interview 2 years ago - do you honestly think he is still not sure what Fu's gender is till today? Or are you expecting another interview? I'm not waiting for a reply, I'll just leave it at that because Cerez's answer to my previous post is enough for me to understand that you people won't even consider facts but base your judgments on a few random press lines that have nothing to do with the hard facts of the manga. Iyineda (talk)
 * I have to agree. If you guys can't even admit that it was a joke and write that down in the article, then this statement should be deleted at all, because Kishi showed enough in 565 to destroy any doubts that are actually based on nothing. Faust-RSI (talk) 13:20, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

We're not not considering the possibility. I personally think that Fū was drawn particularly effeminately in chapter 565, but you don't see me here crying out injustice over a simple trivia note because it's a simple fact that Kishimoto said something (joke or not) and there's no official release about her gender and he could still change it if he wanted to. As Shounensuki said earlier, it could very well be that he decided Fū's gender a long time ago but it's not very easy to translate to us because of the lack of gender-specific pronouns in Japanese. I really don't see an issue with things staying as it is right now, Fu's being called a girl, so what exactly is the problem?--Cerez365™ 13:27, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is really simple. And it is even fenced from this pseudo-issue of gender. As I said, the information, as it is now in the article, makes it look like Kishimoto REALLY isn't sure about the gender of his OWN character. His statement about it is written in a serious manner, despite of it clearly being a joke or just "funny comment". The readers that are not familiar with the real text (with lol at the end) are confused and begin to doubt Fuu's gender whatever it is. So, I ask again - what is so hard to understand? Faust-RSI (talk) 14:57, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Uhm, I'm not sure if you're looking at it from the right perspective. People can create characters and say "hmm I don't know if I want to make this character male or female" there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That's why he said it in the first place, not because he thought it'd be a hoot if he told us that he doesn't know what gender she is. And in any case if people begin to doubt Fū's gender then is that not what Kishimoto would've wanted if he was joking? Saying he "joking stated" it sounds more like the wikia casting doubt on what he said so I wouldn't mind if Shounensuki was able to give us a translation of exactly what he said, 'lol' and all.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 15:05, December 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't really get what your problem is, but let's make this as easy as possible: Kishimoto-sensei said he's not sure if Fū's male or female, but he's more on the female side. So, in the newest chapter we all saw the "evidence", making it even more clear that she's female. The last thing we need is a confirmation of what we saw. Of course, there's still the possibility that Fū turns out to be male, but this is almost 0%. So, what's the problem now? We can use her in the articles and write down that Kishimoto-sensei is not 100% sure, but considers her to be a girl. Problem solved. Seelentau 愛議 16:13, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

If that's your argumentation then I propose a simple resolution. If you wanna be literal about it, let's be literal till the end. We should change this trivia note to the REAL script and then add a translation. By ShounenSuki, of course. But it must be as literal as possible.Faust-RSI (talk) 06:53, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Kishi isn't completely certain on her gender yet (or more specifically, we haven't been totally informed on it). Him making a joke doesn't negate any seriousness. There is nothing wrong with the trivia nor does it need to be changed as it is based off of what we know. When we have a confirmation (via databook, most likely) then we'll be set. But until then, the trivia remains as is I'd say. Skitts (talk) 22:41, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia
"Fū's hair also bears the meaning of her name: 楓 (Fū) which means "Maple Tree" in Japanese" What exactly does that mean? 'Cause I don't get it…--Cerez365™ 23:16, December 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it might refer to her hair being green, but both the Liquidambar formosana and the Acer genus are best known in Japan for their red variants and Autumn colours. Green would be the last colour you'd use to refer to that. 'sides, I'd say her hair and her name are derived from the wind, rather than trees. —ShounenSuki (talk 00:16, December 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I searched for those and didn't really see what the person meant so I was wondering if they meant a simple maple tree.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 00:23, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Bug Bite
Excuse me... i think seven-tails' tech, bug bite, is based on a pokemon move..

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bug_Bite_%28move%29


 * A lot of things have the same name, doesn't mean they are related. Joshbl56  11:33, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say so. If you take a look at how they're written, it's completely different. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 12:35, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Chakra arm attack
What's our take on this? In the page Guy and Kakashi use their techniques, in the bottom left panel, you can see a few severed arms, Yugito, a jinchūriki I can't tell who it is and Fū in the air, in the background. There's one thing I don't know if it's a severed arm or a tail, with the host obscured by smoke. In the next page, you can see Han with the arms down, and in the bottom panel in that page, you can see the four hosts, apparently on the ground, with Fū no longer in the air. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:18, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

A tail? Wow you saw more than me. I was also confused especially with all the arms looking like they belong to one person (they seem to have this sorta plated look). With that confusion I think we possibly know enough to just call this a generic tailed beast skill and list them all as users —at least I'd be fine with that. Well except Gaara decor.--Cerez365™ 17:26, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

On the ground, from right to left, there's Yugito, the host I can't tell who it is (though going by the next page, it would be Han), and the thing which I don't know if it's an arm or a tail. I'm in doubt if it's a tail because it looks like on of the Three-Tails' tail, which is a bit thicker than the others. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:32, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! I finally see it lol. I say we include them all though. If so many of them can do it, I really don't see what's stopping the rest when it seems like such a generic ability of theirs. Of course we'd have to remove the "manga" tags and so on.--Cerez365™ 18:11, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Guys behind Kakashi there are only chakra arms no tailed beast the tailed beasts are all standing behind him and none have their hands connected to the ground since you can see their full arms so lets not jump to early conclusions and just list Naruto,Bee,Han for the chakra arm move... plus they all look the same so they belong to only one and what do you mean we seen most of them do it only 3 and Killer bee's aren't actually arms they are tails so i gues 1/3 or 2/9 enough evidence
 * I agree, the only one who clearly creates chakra arms is Han.--Deva 27 18:42, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * We didn't list everyone. In the other page, you said something about Four and Six Tails and their hosts, none of them were listed as having done that. By chakra arm, we mean Version 1 cloak arm, Version 2 cloak arm, partial transformation, like B has done, and the Chakra Mode arms Naruto makes. In the panel we first see them in this chapter, you can see six arms, and if you check, you can even tell in 5 out the 6 if it's a left hand or a right hand by looking at the thumb. I don't recall any host creating more than two arms at once (at least not Version 2 arms), which means at least three hosts used them. When Kakashi slices through them, you can count six arms again, and in the panel I described in my previous message, you can see Yugito with her hands on the ground, a host that appears to be Han (going by the following page), and something that appears to be Yagura, considering how thick his tails are when compared to others. I only find valid removing the Seven-Tails and its host, even though it's also on the ground in the next page, because it's in the air in the previous one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:44, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

In chapter 294 four-tailed Naruto spilts off a chakra arm from his original arm. Whose to say Han isn't doing the same thing, but with more? Also, the way Kishimoto only shows Han with his arms in the ground indicate to me that it is only Han who made them. --Deva 27 18:54, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, that I didn't remember. Removing those other than Han, B and Naruto. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:59, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Pronoun
Hi, I just wanted to know, in the japanese recent chapter what pronoun Fuu used as "I"?Maybe that could give us a clue of Fuu's gender--Afo (talk) 13:20, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure what you're asking but just to ward of the rest of the missives, it was pretty much confirmed in the recent chapter that Fū's a girl. Though I'm not too sure how that changes anything.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 13:22, February 1, 2012 (UTC)