Board Thread:Consensus Track/@comment-1251315-20150527125159/@comment-34115-20150528055250

Omojuze wrote: @Dantman Then I have a follow-up question: Isn't it redundant to have a discussion on plans to do certain things, if the plans won't be put into action in the first place? Sure, it's a big job, but who will be up for it? And I can see a lot of yes, we need it and of course let's do it, but zero yes, i will help doing it. And it's perfectly clear that Sajuuk won't be helping out, as he has no time. Since it was something that was brought upon by him, shouldn't he be the one initiating the plans, and not putting the work aside for others to do, which, most likely, result in nobody doing anything OR at least not as consistently as Shakhmoot's work. If we were to have the same perspective as Sajuuk has on this issue, then we would all find excuses not to do it, wouldn't we?

We’re a wiki with hundreds of active contributors. Dozens of large refactors like these done. And dozens of new users coming in to help regularly. Presuming that no one will volunteer, that something as relatively straightforward as this needs to be done by just one person, that we even need one immediately, or that no one will ever take action, without even bothering to ask and confirm that there actually aren’t any volunteers, is the assumption. We have volunteers for everything.

Rachin123 already volunteered right after you commented. And if we wanted to we could post an announcement explaining how to reformat these tables and asking for data on dub credits (with perhaps a gratuitous notification). And we would likely have a bunch of people willing to edit a few articles (multiply a few articles by a few people and the number grows exponentially until there isn’t even any work left to do).

Also any statement that presupposes that everyone is of a single viewpoint is in of itself, a fallacy. ‘Everyone’ is always a mix of people with various viewpoints. If everyone shared my viewpoint Narutopedia would be a marvel of applied wiki technology, with hardly any content. If everyone shared the same viewpoint this discussion would have never happened since either Shakhmoot would have never created the tables or Sajuuk would have never bothered creating the discussion. If everyone shared Sajuuk’s viewpoint… ;) you wouldn’t be disagreeing with him.

Narutopedia exists because everyone has different viewpoints and different skills. Our expansive use of advanced templates, Semantic MediaWiki, and smart infoboxes exists because of the few editors that understand technical things like them. Our translations and trivia about Japanese puns in in-universe names exists because other editors understand Japanese. Our large amount of content exists because some editors are willing to write prose that other editors aren’t good at.