Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25516007-20141008201906/@comment-25464204-20141023214550

You underrate Jiraiya's ability. Orochimaru also defeated Third Hokage when he first left the village (If I remember correctly) but doesn't mean that he is stronger than the Third. Another examples is when Sasuke battled Itachi, although Sasuke won the fight but Itachi clearly was stronger than Sasuke at that time and he could use Izanami on Sasuke but he didn't, if you are Itachi's fan you know the reason.

Jiraiya never want to kill Orochimaru, and their first fight didn't show up clearly so we won't know how they fought. Jiraiya still survived that fight, and don't tell me that Orochimaru left him alive, Orochimaru would kill Jiraiya if he could, just like he did with the Third in his Konoha's Invasion.