Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180914132456/@comment-31099706-20180915095625

Ameno is different from other teleportation jutsu, it's not a poof and hoof type of one. It literally shifts the desired object/target to the limited location it desires. Unlike FTG, where the user disappears and reappears almost instantly in another place, Ameno literally places the person in between the space, thus it's instant, there's nothing to rwact over, it doesn't take a single second. It places the user or the target wherever the user desires in it's limited location. So, if Sasuke wants to place his sword in Hashi's head or chest, it will happen, and Hashi nor anyone can react to it, because there's not a gap in time for it.

And even if Madara's genjutsu is not said to be perfect, Sasuke's is very skilled in it. One eye contact and he'll catch Hasirama to end.

I hope everyone knows that after Madara got blizted by Sasuke, he didn't stand around to go for a second round, he flew straight for the sky, throwing CT to slow down Sasuke. He obviously has brains.

And when did Madara react to Eight Gates Guy? All he could do so much was block his attacks with the TSB, it was the lack of those balls that lead him to no fast enough defense against Sasuke coming at him. Even with the TSB, Madara was locked into a place, getting hit by Guy all over the place. Madara couldn't dodge one hit of Gai's attack and he knew each attack coming, and needed the TSB to block and react to it. So, no, Sasuke isn't as fast as Eight gates Gai with Footspeed, but he's fast enough to blizt Madara. And SPSM Naruto blizted Kaguya, so I don't why people are ignoring speed feats here, when it's literally shown as speed feats.

And I feel there's some sort of pride thing going over Sasuke and Naruto, and Madara ane Hashirama. The Uchiha's had alot of chances to catch their opponent offguard with a genjutsu, but theu resorted to fighting them like warriors rather than like Shinobi, for a power wised battle.

So, Sasuke defeats Hashirama. And it seems everyone agrees to this, and the debate seems to go for a route akin to Sasuke vs Madara.