Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-25645405-20150802055003/@comment-5936871-20150803180833

GreatestSin wrote: Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: People theorized about Naruto himself being Hagoromo's reincarnation and that he would appear before Naruto for the longest. not me, so6p was mentioned to have the rinnegan, naruto never showed anything special regrading his eyes... Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: The same goes for Sasuke obtaining the Rinnegan, yeah, sasuke was always with "eyes"...

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: We learned that in reality Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of Hagoromo's sons, not Hagoromo himself, but Naruto did directly inherit his will just as Asura did. yeah, did you see that coming?

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: Sasuke did obtain Rinnegan, and his Rinnegan isn't an asspull version. He was gonna unlock Rinnegan anyway, but since he unlocked so quickly due to Hagoromo giving him half of his power he unlocked a Rinnegan that allowed him to also use his Sharingan powers. from tvtroupe: An Ass Pull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without Foreshadowing or dropping a Chekhov's Gun earlier on.

im not saying the rinnegan is a as*pull, but the six-tomoe-rinnegan surely is...

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: It's like a weaker version of Kaguya's Rinne Sharingan. right now the only difference is that sasuke cant cast IT, but this may also be possible if he becomes the TT-jin, so, the "a*spull"-version isnt actually weaker than th "original" at least not by feats... Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: As for Naruto's powers, his mode is just combining Hagoromo's Six Paths Chakra with natural energy to create Six Paths Senjutsu and he can draw on the powers of all of the beast (Which you also should have seen coming the moment they gave him some of their chakra). the bolded part is obvious since the "suddenly we can talk"-as*pull allowed naruto to get BM/BSM, the other one happened after he had a visit from so6p, therefore i wasnt able to see it coming, the thing i will give kishi that he actually planned the BSM/KSM mode (in the pain arc narutos eyes got like a incomplete version)...

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: Also, no strategy would work against Juudara, he was way too powerful so powering up Naruto and Sasuke would be the only way they could defeat someone like Juudara. the bolded part says the exact line which always shows up before the MC+group use their brains, in "world trigger" the neighbors (the villians) also looked invincible, exspecially the mud-guy, but with brains they made it possible, this is why strategy is used, beating a enemy which doesnt seem like he can be beaten... or does it make sense to use strategy agaisnt someone which they would have defeated without planning? 1. Naruto never showed anything special regarding his eyes, but it's the fact that they never showed Hagoromo's face for the longest and that Naruto is the Child of Prophecy destined to bring all of the beast together and unite them. He also possess Hagoromo's very powerful body.

2. No, but I did see Naruto being a reincarnation of Hagoromo. Instead, he was the reincarnation of Hagoromo's son, who possessed Hagoromo's will and had the same goal that he did. Therefore, the theory wasn't too far off from the truth.

3. The instant Kaguya appeared with her Rinne Sharingan, that allowed her to have the powers of Rinnegan and Sharingan. As well as Madara's mastery over Rinnegan and Sharingan, allowing him to switch between the two quickly and use their powers back to back, on top of him using Susanoo while using Rinnegan. Should have bee foreshadowing to Sasuke being able to do something along those lines when obtaining his Rinnegan. Now, his unique Rinnegan may not have been foreshadowed. But it's existence makes sense and is valid.

4. How is that an asspull? He was always able to telepathically communicate with Killer B and Gyuki for a long time. So him being able to do it with the other beasts, after him obtaining a stronger bond with Kurama, is an asspull? What? How? Who says Kishimoto didn't plan that out too? Just because you didn't see it coming and it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's an asspull, and doesn't mean it wasn't already planned for a while.

5. I don't know anything about World Trigger. But in Naruto, no strategy would work on a guy like Juudara who can negate virtually every single attack in existence and send out invisible and invincible clones of himself that cannot be detected at all. Thus, Naruto and Sasuke obtaining powers on the same level is the only way they could have defeated him.