Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36366948-20200805112208/@comment-36366948-20200812031844

LegionZero wrote: Really? Because the previous 5 Kage together couldnt handle Edo Madara, and he was mountain buster at best. The current 4 Kage together incapacitated planet buster Kinshiki.

Kaguya had to be sealed away by a jutsu created by Ninja Jesus himself because Naruto and Sasuke with 6 Paths upgrades could defeat her any other way. And thwy needed help from 2-3 other people to make it happen.

Then comes along Momshiki and Kinshiki, threats greater than Kaguya, and 4 Kage without Bijuu or 6 Paths upgrades pretty much won, but this generation is weaker than the last? Right

You aren't listening. I never said the Boruto 5 kage as a whole are weaker than the last generation. In fact they are one of the strongest. I said Kurotsuchi and Chojuro are weaker than their predecessors. The 5 kage struggled against Edo Madara because they had no intel. Onoki only knew about his MS and he attained the Rinnegan and Wood Release after going into hiding. The only reason the 4 Boruto kage won against Kinshiki is because they had perfect intel on how to beat him and a plan formulated by Sasuke. Kaguya stomps both base Momoshiki and Kinshiki. They only stand a chance if they merge. Fused Momoshiki obliterated all the kage except Naruto and Sasuke, so they are nowhere near Kaguya level, if that's what you're insinuating. Not implied. Stated and shown. Not exactly sure where but ok I guess. And Naruto still uses SPSM/KCM/Shadow Clones and Rasengan. Sasuke still uses all the same abilities from the 4SWW. Why would they make major changes? As pointed out before, Tsunade had 2 major abilities. In-universe she has had those 2 abilities and the fighting style that revolved around it for YEARS. Its not always about the number of abilities one has, its about how refined and how well the apply those abilities to battle

I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
 * -Bruce Lee

Atleast that's a range of different abilities.

Werent they all dead? Or defected? You are also ignoring the fact that its not just mastery of a discipline that makes one a Kage. It is the fact that their skills are above every other candidate So you are really telling me that Every Single swordsman of the mist died or defected before they were recognised as kage level? Also that's exactly my point. The mist is weak asf, if a seven swordsman memeber was selected and won the post of Mizukage, something that has never happened before. For all we know he may have been. But uh... he was kinda dead. He wasn't always dead. To master all seven swords, he would have needed access to them. That means he must have been in the mist when that happened. Also he never went rogue so he must have been with the mist until his death. She wasnt chosen for her Lava Release. She was chosen because she is the best shinobi in her village. Lava Release doesnt make her the best. A combination of her intellect and combat prowess makes her the best Where does it ever state that she's very intelligent? Her own page on this site doesn't say that. She has at best above average intelligence. She has also never shown any intelligence feats.

The only thing clear here is that you have your own definition for Kage and domt carw what the series says. What does the series say? I would love to know their concrete statement on how powerful a shinobi should be to become kage. As far as I know, it has never been fully specified.

ina fight between big rocks and big fiery molten rocks, big fiery molten rocks wins. She could burn a whole through the Earth Sandwich The thing with that is she's only ever used quicklime and ash, both of which are used to restrain, not burn. If she had the ability to use actual corrosive lava, she definitely would have used it against Kinshiki.

The last 2 Mizukage werent Swordsman so this is one hell of a fallacy. Im pretty sure is the first Swordsman turned Mizukage. ...What? He's the first swordsman to become kage because he's the only swordsman left lol. When did I say any of the previous kage were swordsman?

This is like saying Naruto is only Hokage bacuse of he has Kurama and 6 Paths upgrades.

Minato was only Hokage because he could use FTG

A was only Raikage because of his Lightning Armor.

Is it really so crazy to think that a persons greatest skill is a large contributer to their high rank/status? The kid was 19 and a Kage Guard. All of those are techniques/bijuu. Hiramekarei is just a sword, not a jutsu. Based on what? Kitsuchi's abilities being more palatable to you? I proved why I think that.

If they arent wrong then they arent disputable... Not necessarily. Kinshiki splitting planets is disputable, many things from the databook are disputable. All of those statements are official yet and can be proved either right or wrong, meaning they are disputable.