User talk:Koto Senju/Archive 2

Yin Seal Concern
Look, Sakura is using the Yin seal, because in all honesty, how can she cause that much destruction if she wasen't using it.

Apology
yeah sorry about that i just wanted to be apart of something i diden't mean any harm im just a big fan of Naruto and i want to contribute.Whiteraven1 (talk) 16:39, June 2, 2013 (UTC)(whiteraven1)

Re: Strength of a Hundred(white) Seal
Heya, Jazz! Thanks for contacting me. 1. Yes, it's Strength of the White Seal or Strength of a White Seal, however you wanna name it, however, yes, it's white.

The Kanji for Tsunade’s technique is 百 豪

The Kanji for Sakura’s seal is 白 豪

Tsunade has 「百」which means “hundred”. Sakura has「白」which means “white”.

As for the power part, I wrote an explanation here: http://chatte-georgiana.tumblr.com/post/51970314932/did-sakura-possessed-this-power-all-along

Hope it helps. If not, do contact me and I will try to explain it better. ^_^

--Chatte (talk) 12:03, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I can do that. :) But do you mind if I do it a bit later? I want to try and explain as best as possible. Also, there's a thing that dunno who wrote about Shizune saying that the seal is able to take on 3 years of chakra. Actually, she says that it took Sakura 3 years to form the seal. And while the information there is correct that Sakura has inside 3 years worth of chakra, it might sound confusing to some people. I'd write something like...Shizune stated that it took Sakura 3 years to gain the seal. Because this is what she actually says.--Chatte (talk) 12:54, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Seal/chakra usage
Well, we could wait for that, however, I was referring at today when I said later, tbh since now I am at work and cannot properly edit. Here's a deal.

I'll do both explanations of the seal and the power, give you the text and we're both gonna talk afterwards on the matter if there's something you don't understand, agreed? I'll try to use everything, mangacaps, databook and everything in order to explain myself better? Deal? :D ^_^--Chatte (talk) 13:11, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. To be more exact, around 6-7 pm. Now it's half 4 in my timezone. :) I already gathered the raws as well, going to crop everything and try to explain it as detailed as possible. :)--Chatte (talk) 13:28, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Byakugo no In
Hey, as I promised, I came with a description for the seal. I am going to make one for each of them (seal, power explanation) and I am going to separate them in order to be more clear. So, about the seal, this is how I've put it.

Kanji: 白豪

Romanji: Byakugō no In

Picture: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2201/byakugonoin.png

Translation: Strength of a/the White Seal | White Strength Seal

Description: By focusing her chakra in the forehead over a period of time of 3 years, Sakura has been able to acquire this seal. Shizune commented that Sakura had to constantly store part of her chakra into the seal, which requires extremely precise chakra control, something that even she couldn't master.

Picture of shizune commenting that: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/shizuneexplanation.png/

Translation of Shizune's words: ''For 3 years she has been storing part of her chakra into that seal... That requires extremely precise chakra control, something that even I couldn't master!''

Trivia: The design of the seal is similar to Tsunade's Yin Seal, however, the meaning is different since Tsunade's seal is named 陰封印 (Infūin) and Sakura's one is 白豪 (Byakugō no In). --Chatte (talk) 15:28, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

No need to apologize, dear. I am as new as you. Joined today, actually. I saw someone else modified the content page and it's even better now. My question is, how can we do with the other confusions? I saw people said Sakura's seal is stronger than Tsunade's and I believe that is a wrong statement since we don't know that actually. Only her power is said to be greater than Tsunade's because she doesn't use it to keep her youth. Also the editing of the main page remains. How should we do with that one? Thanks in advance!--Chatte (talk) 16:51, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I was talking about that part. We can leave there the fact that she has indeed stronger feats than Tsunade given she doesn't need to maintain her youth, however, done it in a proper way. Also, what about that trivia where Kishi stated that supposedly Hinata would make a better heroine? Kishi never stated that. He stated that people have been telling him that but from now [actually then] on he'll show Sakura even more heroic, so to speak. I have the raws and translation. I also wanted to talk about other descriptions in Sakura's bio that I find a bit harming/confusing for her character that I would want to talk about but I am not sure with whom and how to put exactly the problem. Thanks in advance!--Chatte (talk) 17:27, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Signature
To change your signature, hover over your user name, select "my preferences". In the "my info" tab, there's a signature section. If you want to style your signature, pay special attention to any code you add to it. If you don't style it properly, you can make so every bit of text after your signature is styled the same in a talk page. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:37, June 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Same place where you made changes to the signature. You have to enable wiki-formatting in the signature, and then insert it as if you were adding it to an article. Signature do and don'ts are in the signature policy. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:58, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Light and Dark
I actually never thought about that, but I'd say Hashirama and Madara, since they existed before the Shinobi system existed. You could call them "pure dark" and "pure light", while both Hiruzen and Danzō are stained by the Shinobi system. They are like the Yin and Yang picture, where Yin has a bit Yang and Yang has a bit Yin. Madara and Hashirama don't have these bits. Seelentau 愛議 10:01, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Oro edit
His learning of what Kabuto knew about the war when he took his own chakra back from Kabuto, undoing Kabuto's Sage Mode transformation. That's more like B being able to fist-bump talk to people than it is to mind reading. Naruto and Sasuke do that sometimes when they clash. Valley of the End and Samurai Bridge for example. Their thoughts/emotions probably go to their chakra, and when the clash, they kinda exchange it. Oro simply took back his chakra, and the info Kabuto had came with it. Besides, it looked nothing like any other confirmed instance of mind reading. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:35, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Check this out for me please
Done.

You're welcome. I was once told that Yin and Yang are not as simple as or shouldn't be categorised as simply good and bad because it simply depicts the opposites of any two things. Still in this sense, I believe Danzo and Hiruzen's story are better illustrations of this. Hashirama and Madara represent completely different aspects.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 03:28, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Not at all. Disagreements is a hazard here. I have gone gone ahead and made my contribution to the discussion.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:30, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Orochimaru Substitute Technique
Add something to the trivia section Koto, like we did to Hell Stab, Because there is not sure what technique he used, it is better to say that he used something similar. Don't you think thats the most reasonable to do? Could be misleading information. What do you think? Dan.Faulkner (talk) 14:24, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * For now is the better thing to do ;). Dan.Faulkner (talk) 14:29, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Can you look at ?
You don't need to go spamming a load of people's talkpages to get them to look at a page. --Speysider Talk Page 15:18, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Wiki linking
Please do not do Wood Release as this achieves absolutely nothing. The bit of text you added is only designed for the purpose of displaying alternate text which links to the former page: it's not necessary to put that there if the article name matches the display text. --Speysider Talk Page 13:00, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * My message was only intended to remind you about linking, nothing else. Also your edit did not offend me: there are worse edits to annoy me ;) --Speysider Talk Page 13:07, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I dunno. I don't really read the manga much now (although I plan on just buying all the books as they're translated into English by Viz [not a fan of reading them online lol]), only the anime (which is like 2x further ahead in the subs xD) --Speysider Talk Page 13:15, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

re: Thanks
Lovin' you ;) You are one of the few sane editors left I must say, nothing alike; you know who--Elveonora (talk) 15:02, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re: If you could
Done, done, and done. Though I must say, I'd suggest reading the chapters that are associated with the black rods. Your post, while raising decent points, goes right against what Madara himself said in the Obito flashbacks; that the receivers were his literal will in physical shape. Creation of the receivers is an act of manifesting one's will. Madara said it himself. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 20:06, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Shunshin no jutsu on Shino's page
Whoops, my mistake, I mistook it for the Hiraishin no Jutsu, I'll try not to repeat that. --Tzao (talk) 09:28, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Madara's Intelligence
The section that I removed from that isn't salvageable for a reason: there is no content that points towards abilities there.


 * 1) Madara is a shinobi, the first line of that talks about things that all shinobi should be able to. It simply glorifies simple facts that any ninja who can survive should be able to do.
 * 2) His knowledge is based off his eye's ability to read a stone tablet- that is not intelligence.
 * 3) Skilled teacher? How is that intelligence based? Training another Uchiha progeny how to use kinjutsu?
 * 4) Obito was never able to mimic Madara's battle prowess. That was the point of him saying he was weakened beyond repair when he fought Hashirama.

If you see things like that on other people's articles, feel free to point them out because they shouldn't be there either. There is no merit in the information; it's essentially there for being there sake. I know Naruto's learning style is mentioned in his section, but that is simply because his entire fighting style is centred around it.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 15:52, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Friendly comparisons
I just love your friendly comparisons i honestly do haha i agree with all of them an i copy that idea? -- Root 根  20:02, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Personal Pages
I'm not even sure we're allowed to do that. Can you link me to it, because I honestly don't even know what you're referring to. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 20:24, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Help
Hi, I would be happy to help you. Leave me a message there, here or cc.~Ultimate Supreme  14:22, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Fastest in History
Sorry about that I didn't know to put it here

But to the point, I have read it in both my regular translation and others but what I always see is the Raikage saying that he is the fastest in the world now that Minato's dead. Now there's no denying he was the fastest of his era but my thing is never was it said he was the fastest. Before, you said every fast person has their speed compared to Minato however, thats not fair because before then Minato had to have his speed compared to someone and in time the person he is compared to dies and they are compared to him. Plus we clearly know the only people to ever evade the Raikage's full speed attack are Minato and Naruto. For all we know in that Nine-tails mode Naruto is faster than Minato since he was compared directly to Minato, and if I remember correctly even Naruto couldn't dodge the Third Raikage's attack who was noted to be as fast as A (which I think is false based on what I remember so he is possibly faster) so for all we know he's the fastest.

Also side note do you think "The Fastest Shinobi" should be a title since we know 4 (5 if you count Naruto) shinobi who have had that title bestowed upon them. I likened it to the "God of Shinobi" as a generational title that a shinobi gets every few eras with exceptions. Tobirama had it from "Era of Warring States-His death", Third Raikage from "Tobirama's death-Arguably the end of the Third Shinobi War", Minato from "Arguably the end of the Third Shinobi War-His death", A from "Minato's death-Night 1 of the Fourth Shinobi War" and if you want, to Naruto from "Night 1 of the Fourth Shinobi War-Present". I'm asking because usually when I bring it up with someone else I'm ignored and it remains unresolved.--Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 02:08, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate the response and I actually do have to acknowledge that you were right about most of it but I only have a problem with Tobirama. Im not saying Tobirama is the fastest in history but hear me out. We still dont know the true extent of his speed so to say Minato is faster kind of premature. However we do know of his mastery over the Body Flicker Technique. From what we've seen, Tobirama's Body Flicker Technique, reflexes and possibly his speed is greater than Minato's reflexes, Body Flicker Technique and possibbly his speed. Tobirama has also never acknowledged Minato as faster, in fact its the other way around just look at 639.

And hate to keep saying it but I'll still ask. Do you think "The Fastest Shinobi" should be a title since we know 4 (5 if you count Naruto) shinobi who have had that title bestowed upon them. I likened it to the "God of Shinobi" as a generational title that a shinobi gets every few eras with exceptions. Tobirama had it from "Era of Warring States-His death", Third Raikage from "Tobirama's death-Arguably the end of the Third Shinobi War", Minato from "Arguably the end of the Third Shinobi War-His death", A from "Minato's death-Night 1 of the Fourth Shinobi War" and if you want, to Naruto from "Night 1 of the Fourth Shinobi War-Present". I'm asking because usually when I bring it up with someone else I'm ignored and it remains unresolved.--Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 23:36, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

In 639 Minato didn't at all present a negative thought of Tobirama being rash, he recognized Tobirama ready to counter-attack and took appropriate measures to leave. Even praising his physical speed before leaving in chapter 639. However in 631 (the page in question was page 5 ) Tobirama didn't praise his physical speed for being superior, he praised his usage of the Flying Thunder God technique.

It's possible I might have misinterpreted your statement, but then wouldn't a title of "The Fastest Shinobi" belong as an actual title pertaining to the two of them only and not like one of those labels people have for certain aspects of their abilities such as those of the Third Raikage. I'm just saying because they held that specific title at one point or another. It's up to you however weather or not it should be a title or just a label. But thank you for being the first admin to at least address this for me.--Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 01:44, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

You got me there I really thought he was referring to his speed, guess it was his reflexes. Anyways the Shunshin No Jutsu does translate to Body Flicker but at that point Minato didn't use Body Flicker just Flying Thunder God. Furthermore if you look at the Flying Thunder God Technique page even in the trivia section it mentions the technique also being called as the Shunshin No Jutsu. The fact that Tobirama the creator has used it interchangeably adds further credentials to the fact, granted I dont know how instantaneous is better than instantaneous. But at this point Tobirama has never acknowledged Minato as being faster than him in terms of physical speed just (somehow) better than him at Flying Thunder God.

But the fact your not an admin surprised me, I always thought you were. But still I'll bring up that nickname portion with another admin at some point since at least someone agrees with me.--Youngjusticeplayer007 (talk) 08:47, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Yamato Guruguru
Why are you changing the Nature Streams user from Guruguru to Yamato? The latter just acted as a powerup for the former, it isn't like Yamato himself used the jutsus.--JOA20 (talk) 06:24, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * …and? I don't really see this "we all know that Guruguru forced Yamato to use these techniques", but nevermind. I don't know what the others will say, but if they're alright with this then I shall not say anything about this.--JOA20 (talk) 06:39, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

zetsu brains
I was talking about Guruguru and Black Zetsu specifically, they don't have any brains. Guruguru can be worn and Black Zetsu is a goo--Elveonora (talk) 16:53, May 21, 2014 (UTC)