Talk:Byakugan

Origins
Its says that the Sharingan is an offshoot of the Byakugan however it shows that on his death bed the Sage of the Six Paths left the Sage's "Eyes" to his oldest son and the Sage's body to his youngest son. Later the older brother would found the Uchiha Clan and would wield the First Sharingan while the younger brother founded the Senju Clan and its say the Rinnegan laid the groundwork for the Sharingan and Byakugan that mean the Byakugan must be a mutation of the Sharingan.


 * If they're related at all. I don't believe it's ever been stated officially, and it's looking less likely in light of today's revelations. TomServo101 (talk) 20:10, September 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * Three things:
 * Sign your posts;
 * The older brother didn't found the Uchiha clan, his descendants did;
 * It is still possible that the Rinnegan first evolved into the Byakugan and then into the Sharingan.
 * --ShounenSuki (talk 20:44, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Genjutsu
can the byakugon see through genjutsu?
 * it was stated that the three main dojutsus cannot be fooled by visual genjutsu but it is possible to use other forms of genjutsu on them e.g. auditory genjutsu --Cerez365 (talk) 16:57, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ao wields a Byakugan, he said he saw through the (Sharingan) Genjutsu placed on the Third Mizukage. However, the Byakugan article is mute about this ability.
 * The two aren't necessarily related. Ao could have merely been good friends with Yagura and noticed subtle changes to his personality as a result of imperfect Complete Hypnosis. ~SnapperTo 19:46, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ao also saw through the genjutsu placed on Mifune and he didn't know him. And i'm pretty sure that it was already said that the three dojutsus can see through all forms of nin, tai and genjutsu... --Cerez365 (talk) 19:53, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * He didn't see through anything; he got suspicious of why things were going so well for Danzo. With his Byakugan he could see Shisui's components and, knowing Shisui to be rizzle good with genjutsu, figured things out. See Hinata's encounter with Tobi for a clearer example of how Byakugan-users identify genjutsu. She looked for someone performing a genjutsu, not some sort of chakra differentiation on herself or her teammates. ~SnapperTo 20:04, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, the three dojutsus introduced so far can't see through ALL forms of ninjutsu. the byakugan can't even differentiate a real body from a kage bunshin, and the byakugan is the most superior out of all dojutsus in terms of insight. Neji Swirl
 * Didn't Ao mention that the Byakugan was able to see through the genjutsu on Yagura? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:46, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm tired of trying to point that out. It was actually said before in the manga but just mentioned in passing. But wasn't "confirmed" until Ao said he saw through the one placed on Yagura--Cerez365 (talk) 03:42, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

kirigakure
Kirigakure has a Hyuuga Member? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 23:03, March 30, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * No, Ao stole the Byakugan from a Hyūga clan member.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 23:07, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I for got about him. KiumaruHamachi (talk) 23:09, March 30, 2010 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

Single Byakugan
Hinata using only her right Byakugan, you can see that her left one is inactive, indicated that the veins are not visible. Or should we consider this to be a typo? Yatanogarasu 10:52, April 3 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a discussion on this in Hinata's talkpage.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 17:55, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Can the byakugan read movements

 * Do you mean like the sharingan? DevilN (talk) 21:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, neji read hinata's movements during their fight, he also hit every kunai kidomaru sent at him accurately with his 64 and 128, hinata read genno bird summon's movements for naruto to hit it with a rasengan. I wanted dis to be added 2 d byakugan page. And also its d best in seeing chakra flow
 * If you mean how the sharingan does where you get an actual image of the attack before it happens then no, however, because they have a great field of vision they can effectively anticipate their foes movements.Cerez365 (talk) 22:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Cerez365, byakugan can't copy or see the attack before it happens but it's more accurate in seeing chakra flow(I don't know which is better Rinnegan or Byakugan). DevilN (talk) 22:17, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

But the byakugan can effectively read fast movements allowing the user to strike accurately even though it does not give an image before a strike like d sharingan. Like the example i gave above, neji hit every one of kidomaru's kunais with his 64 and 128. If he couldn't read its movements he wouldn't know the right time to hit each kunai. In essence he would just b throwing his hands. And also d hinata and genno's bird thing. Shikamaru said it clearly:"hinata use your byakugan to read its movements"

Predicting movements and identifying Genjutsu
Can d byakugan see fast movements due 2 the influxes or changes in a person's chakra and also fast moving objects as shown during hinata vs neji and neji vs kidomaru respectively. Genjutsu: during d yakumo kurama arc hinata saw through yakumo's uncle's genjutsu. If yes, can this be added to the byakugan page

The Byakugan has near perfect vision regardless of speed unless their movements are completely erased they can see it. As for genjutsu it was already said that they 3 great dojutsus cannot be fooled by visual genjutsu... Cerez365 (talk) 16:56, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, for not signingNeji of the gentle fist (talk) 18:38, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can byakugan copy techniques?
I think the copy techniques, if a sharingan user is there.Let us say a hyuga and uchiha member are fighting someone like hiruzen and hashirama, and hiruzen does earth style wall and since sharingan can not see through objects, the hyuga member can see through it and see the hand seals,amount of chkra used and do it,since a hyuga cannot use elemental techniques,he can tell the uchiha member the hand seals and amount of chakra used,the uchiha member can now copy the technique through the hyuga member right?if yes then we can add it to the main article.sazae (talk)


 * No. ~SnapperTo 19:30, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

U see sazae, i told u that d hyuuga's byakugan can't copy. That plan won't work.Neji of the gentle fist (talk) 16:24, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Chakra flow
Is it only the sharingan that can see chakra flow. Allowing them to know when someone is in genjutsu due to irregularity of chakra flow. Can't the byakugan see chakra flow and also know this. If yes, it can be added to the main articleNeji of the gentle fist (talk) 16:39, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhm, this isn't a forum for answering your questions unless it pertains to the main article... yes the byakugan can see chakra flow (there might be variations of how between it and the sharingan) so therefore they can see irregularities in chakra --Cerez365 (talk) 18:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh....yeah.....OK....thanks.Neji of the gentle fist (talk) 20:00, June 29, 2010 (UTC)