Talk:Kurenai Yūhi/Archive 1

Relationships
Did Kurenai and Asuma marry or did she just get pregnent with his child?
 * No, she didn't get married...-- AlienGamer--Talk-- 07:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Is the kid a girl or a boy?
 * Dunno, It hasn't been revealed yet...-- AlienGamer--Talk-- 07:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I see a wedding ring here http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/406/13/ --Blaublau94 (talk) 18:04, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see a ring. What makes you think it's a wedding ring? --ShounenSuki (talk 18:17, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, traditionally a ring worn on the left hand signifies an engagement or marriage. However, I don't know if that holds true in Japan, so wether or not Kishimoto understands the significance and it applies is unknown. So it may be a moot point.--Gamebrain89 (talk) 03:21, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

about her child, i think a girl at trivia masashi stated her child is girl --Jumpjet (talk) 09:43, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * it's still an assumption. Kishimoto is entitled to change his mind.--Cerez365™☺ 10:02, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

i want the baby to be a girl. masashi said he was gonna make it a girl

Nature type
I thought you have to have to nature types to be a Jonin? Kurenai dosen't look like she uses any elements and all she knows is genjutsu..


 * She's a genjutsu Expert, and just because she hasn't shown any use, doesn't mean she cant use...She might prefer genjutsu to ninjutsu...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 07:38, September 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not to mention the fact that being able to use two natures isn't a requirement for becoming a jōnin. It's just that most jōnin can do that. --ShounenSuki (talk 07:50, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

She's a genjutsu type in other words a yin user and if you remember in chapter 548 the second mizukage said he was a yin type in other words a genjutsu user

We know. I am justtrying to figure out how to add it since the Yin article doesn't have a infobox I could just add her name to.Umishiru (talk) 17:49, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Eyes
Shounun, do NOT delete this again. I was just asking if there was any indication of what her eyes were. I seriously doubt that they are normal. The article says they aren't Doujutsu, but what then? DemonFoxsCloak (talk) 13:54, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uniquely drawn eyes. Same way how the Yamanaka clan's eyes are unique, same way Naruto and the Fourth have such piercing blue eyes, same reason why Uchiha typically have dead black orbs for eyes. It's just unique, nothing to fret over.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:25, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

photo
could someone put a new photo this one's color is well...differnt than its supposed to be.--72.173.30.255 (talk) 01:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which photo?  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 01:49, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

He/she means profile image, and yes it's clearly dull, if it's fine to use a Shippuden image I've got one right here. --| WhiteArmor | (Talk) |-- 23:07, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hair Jutsu
In the Kurama anime filler, Kurenai enters the Kurama residence by apearing as a mass of hair that tehn expandes and reveals to be her. Is that a genjutsu, or oyher jutsu, and if it is do I creat it (or someone else)? Any explanation to that? L Mars (talk) 02:31, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * If it was a genjutsu, who was it directed to? Seams more like ninjutsu to me. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:48, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Top Genjutsu Specialist.........???
Who said this? Or is an anime-only statement?

As far as I know, the Third Hokage said that she was in a filler arc but other than that, I don't think it was mentioned.

Tracking Jutsu
In about episode 204 or 205 Kurenai made hand signs and then focused and she immediately knew that there were ninja around. Should this jutsu be added???

i think it should at least be mentioned in her article, what about the rest of you?98.26.240.179 (talk) 08:07, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Desired opponent
When the Third Databook states that she doesn't want to fight anyone the First Databook states she wants to fight Asuma. Should it be noted?--LeafShinobi (talk) 21:32, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why do you need a second opinion about everything? If you think an edit should be made then just make it. ~SnapperTo 21:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well someone might delete his edit, and some people feel things like this should be discussed and there's nothing wrong with that.  Iam... JakuhoRaikoben  22:52, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your signature sure does take a lot of space... just sayin'  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 22:54, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know I'm thinking about getting rid of it, it's too bothersome. Iam... JakuhoRaikoben


 * This isn't the Bleach wiki; you don't need a sysop's permission to contribute. This wiki encourages making edits you believe improve the article and only using the talk page for edits that are reverted. ~SnapperTo 23:14, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well don't really know what the Bleach Wiki has to do with this considering I'm not a heavy editor on there. I edit the Fairy Tail Wiki.  That's nice to encourage making the edits and all that, but there's no need to be rude about it.  There are plenty of ways to get your point across without being rude. Iam...  JakuhoRaikoben


 * I'm sure no one was trying to be rude.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 00:42, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * True, well I apologize. Iam... <span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben

Lol Snapper not trying to be rude >.> And it does take up a lot of space when you edit but it's pretty to look at...just saying ^_^ --Cerez☺ (talk) 01:05, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I was extremely happy with how the end result looked until I saw the huge amount of space it took up when I signed my signature.<span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:3ex;"><span style="padding-left:2px; color:black; background-color:gold; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:4ex;cursor:help;" title="IamJakuhoRaikoben"> Iam... <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:3ex;"><span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben

Kurama Clan Arc
The Karama Clan Arc has some incorrect information. He couldn't tell where she was by the blood of a shuriken, she stabbed herself to break out of the genjutsu and that was how she got hit with the shuriken. --Yamanaka Ino (talk) 13:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * then fix it friend.--Cerez™☺ 15:21, March 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whenever there is a problem with an article, feel free to edit it. Worst case scenario, it gets reverted. If the information that you add is factual, though, then it's far more likely that another editor will improve upon your work or leave it alone.Ryne 91 (talk) 15:23, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, gotcha --Yamanaka Ino (talk) 16:24, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Different village
Can someone tell me when the anime said she was of a different village? I don't remember it in the manga.  ~ Fmakck©  (Images 02:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * It wasn't in the manga but I believe that it was said during that Yakumo fiasco. However it's already in the trivia and her background section should reflect this.--Cerez™☺ 02:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't even watch that arc, oh well I guess.  ~ Fmakck©  (Images 02:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I remember it doesn't said that Kurenai is from another village. Just says she is the most professional genjutsu user in Konoha.--
 * It was said in the anime that she's from another village. However the manga goes against that entirely.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 14:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Then what is the number of anime episode?--
 * Episode 203.--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 15:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw that episode in japanese, but no one in that episode said that. Even 3rd Hokage. He just says about her in japanese, "kono sato kitteno genjutsu tsukai(この里 切っての 幻術使い)". It means "this village's No. 1 genjutsu user."
 * Hm, I'll ask Shounensuki about translating what the Third said, because according to subtitles he said "occasionally there are untrained genjutsu users that come to the village, just as you did."--Cerez365™ Hyūga Symbol.svg 19:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

From Shounen's translation, he said: "" Shounen also noted that there was nothing said about her being from another village. As I can't remember it being said anywhere else, i'm going to remove the information from her article.--Cerez365™ 16:39, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

giving birth
in the anime invasion pain, she still pregnant, but at the shikamaru thinking her baby was born before konoha is being atack--Jumpjet (talk) 13:52, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily, they could have rebuilt part of the village by now, or they could be elsewhere. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:00, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

uh yeah, you probably maybe right. thanks --Jumpjet (talk) 09:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yin Release
Since she is a genjutsu expert and can use powerful genjutsu, does that mean she has Yin Release Chakra Nature? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 19:13, July 20, 2011 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * We should wait for a proper explantation. A discussion is going on here.--Deva 27 19:17, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Image
Forum:Infobox_Image I suggested a new image for Kurenai. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 07:50, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I personally prefer the one there currently. Though she looks a bit "intense" there's a lot more detailing in her face.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:42, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Cerez, the current one is fine. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:32, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know it's quite better but (No erase this) Yeah Cerez, that's why I suggested this. It's too close, the forehead protector is in a bad angle. Besides, in my image her face is quite clean. Didn't you guys said we shouldn't have too close images (at first I'm preferring closeness haha)? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 12:36, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's true. I hate how people swap and change their choices between the articles. --Speysider (Talk Page) 12:46, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh my gosh I think you're referring to how indxcv (indecisive) I am. Nevermind the suggestion up there, though. We should have a talk about the image, what kind of image we're using, I'm getting confused. I don't like too close, I like image that shows their entire head. Some articles have too-close images, some have far (example being Naruto's). So what do you think? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 12:51, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

This is why I'd very much prefer to avoid these requests. But if you do, it's taken as consent... I'm not too sure why the sudden upsurge to change every infobox image but let it die...--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 13:07, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) I personally believe there's nothing wrong with the image in the infobox. No it isn't "too close" I believe you people are taking "too close" to mean that the free space between the image. Why switch an eye-level image with one where you have to be looking up at her?
 * 2) I personally also believe that there is less details in Kurenai's face- I never said anything about it being clean (the signature Yūhi eyes for example are much more detailed currently) and as for forehead protector angle (what is that anyway?) since when is the position or visibility of forehead protectors been an important issue?
 * 3) I also personally believe that people that live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.
 * Haha lol you have a point regarding Yuhi eyes. So nevermind. Yeah I know you're not talking about the clean part, at least. Till I find characters that needs an image change. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 13:25, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Cerez I think it's because I started by making small suggestions on some pages and then other users have decided to copycat me. --Speysider (Talk Page) 14:53, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Cerez, yeah I know that (the third one). @Speysider, that's not being the copycat rather helping. I personally think... [it was something] harsh, though. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 15:57, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Indxcv I didn't state you specifically, not sure what your on about. --Speysider (Talk Page) 15:58, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I misunderstood it. (NO Erase this) I'm not also specifying that it's me you're talking about. BTW honestly, who are you talking about the copycat thing? —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 02:14, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Genjutsu Reversal
Shouldn't kurenai's reversing of an enemies genjutsu be made into an article. i think that its unique enought to be made into one what about the rest of you?98.26.240.179 (talk) 08:09, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, it isn't vast
I'm not sure who's doing it but someone keeps reversing the changes on this line, specifically: "But, her skill with genjutsu is so vast that it is said to rival even those of Itachi Uchiha.[10]"

The source is a databook page which specifically says "during a confrontation with Itachi, both of their B-ranked genjutsu rivaled each other".

The databook does NOT say her genjutsu overall RIVALS Itachi's. The current line is an exaggeration and feels like a total misquote ("...it is said...").

I made generous edits to fix that but it got reversed. I'll stop bothering this page but we should have accurate information. Nexus32 (talk) 13:48, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I have noticed some individuals reverting even good edits sometimes.--Elveonora (talk) 14:23, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * If it's all the same to you, a source that others could see would be better than us just taking your word for it because to be honest, you aren't reputed enough here to change something we believe to be from a databook just because you put a sentence in a quotations.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:27, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Kurenai's ring
Made a minor modification to the ring information in the trivia section. The ring is first visible when Kurenai is shown watering flowers and worrying about Asuma. I believe it's at the beginning of episode 80. At any rate, this was shown before she was revealed to be pregnant.
 * Asuma obviously liked it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 11:23, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Sarutobi Clan
Considering that Kurenai married Asuma, doesn't that mean she is now a member of his clan? Mito Uzumaki married Hashirama yet kept her maiden name. Steveo920, 10:59, February 22, 2013
 * Except Kurenai never married Asuma. He just got her pregnant. Maybe they intended to get married, but I don't recall someone ever saying they actually got married. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:17, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Does she wear a wedding ring? I might or might not be recalling something like that ._.--Elveonora (talk) 19:08, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't recall seeing her wearing one. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:21, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Wait, the above topic mentions a ring, perhaps they were already taken pre-timeskip ?--Elveonora (talk) 23:12, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, a ring was shown at one point. It is likely that they got married, but just as unlikely (though we can hope). She can only be a Sarutobi, once it is revealed that they had in fact been married.--01:04, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ring was shown in the manga chapter "King". Very obvious.

Chapter number please?--Elveonora (talk) 19:12, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Part II pic?
Schall we give her a Part 2 pic aswell? she have changed some (hairstyle, clothes etc.), given the discussion that have been made in the forum. --Kasan94 (talk) 15:10, September 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * If by change you mean she took of her headband and wearing loose clothing. In short, no she didn't change enough to warrant another picture.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 15:39, September 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Most of the adult shinobi in the series don't need an additional image as they don't really change. The people that would need a Part II image are most of the younger ones (Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, Shikamaru etc) --Speysider Talk Page 16:26, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, just making sure. --Kasan94 (talk) 16:36, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Height
Standing at 169.1 cm she's 5'7. When you hover over her height it only reads as 5'5.

KimuraTengoku (talk) 16:20, December 20, 2013 (UTC)KimuraTengoku

Not to be rude but can't you fix it? Munchvtec (talk) 16:29, December 20, 2013 (UTC)munchvtec

You should try making that conversion again. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:57, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Last name
So, as SuperSajuuk said, we didn't agree on what to do with Kurenai's last name. The movie book lists her as Kurenai Sarutobi, while she was known as Kurenai Yūhi for the whole series. So what do we do? Move her article entirely, overwriting her old name? Or do we just change the intro text? Or do we do nothing and just mention her new last name in the infobox? • Seelentau 愛 議 23:34, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Her latest name should be used, thus Sarutobi imo, with Yuhi as redirect.--Elve Talk Page 23:40, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thread:156974 -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:41, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This topic has been unedited for 50 days. It is considered archived - the discussion is over.. I'm starting a new one. Feel free to contribute. ^_^ • Seelentau 愛 議 23:46, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I already tried to move it to Kurenai Sarutobi, but Snapper moved it back on the basis of that thread, despite it being archived. You are likely to go through SnapperTwo in order to rename the entire article "Kurenai Sarutobi." -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:50, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't even give my opinion yet, though. But you might know me well enough to guess what I'm thinking on this, so yeah... I'd like to move it, move it. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:51, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I do know you well enough. That is why I told you who would be in your way in order to "move it, move it." (I see the Madagascar reference) -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:53, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * My opinion is the same as it was in the forum discussion: when there are two names, both equally official, preference should be given to which is most recognizable, which in this case would be Yuhi. Meanwhile, mention Sarutobi in the lead; I don't know why Sajuuk reverted that. ~SnapperTo 00:31, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Because we didn't have this discussion, apparently. At least I totally missed and/or forgot about that forum discussion. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:38, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I reverted it because that isn't the standard we use on this wiki, nor was it the agreement. In fact, several solutions were presented, but no agreement was really reached (the only one that seemed to show agreement was the suggestion I had made, which was to say: "X, alternatively referred to as Y , is..."). --Sajuuk talk 00:47, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * But wasn't that what Suzakun added, just using other words (taken from the wikipedia standards)? • Seelentau 愛 議 00:56, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * @Snapper: And why, exactly, would the most recognizable name be desired over the most recent official name when we have a magical device called "redirects"? Anyone searching for the name they recognize most is still going to get this page, and I don't see anyone suffering from a stroke because the title of the article has been renamed (correctly) to reflect her change in surnames. Just my two cents. Edit: For example, the bijū: At the time they were given names, their most recognizeable names was the nickname that had been used for hundreds of chapters to identify them (Shukaku, Two-Tails, Three-Tails, Nine-Tails, etc.) and yet we instantly changed the names. I fail to see how this difference is any different whatsoever. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 02:16, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * That was my reasoning. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 02:19, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * a) #-Tails is a description, not a name. Given the choice between a name and a description/title, the name won. b) Redirects are as much a magical solution for Sarutobi as they are for Yuhi. c) The wiki does not exclusively cater to the most recent material, so the most recent option is not automatically the best. ~SnapperTo 04:52, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Once more I also put my name in for the use of Yuhi. It is the most recognizable name, the one used for the majority of the series and is no less official than Sarutobi. Once more I do support the use of Kurenei Sarutobi in her introduction page going by Kurenai Sarutobi nee Yuhi or whatever it is.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 10:13, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we should go by what happened in the series most recently. I mean, when a character dies, we also change his whole article into past tense, even though he was alive for most of the series. Iloveinoxxx (talk) 10:16, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I should point out that the only medium which ever uses "Sarutobi" as her surname is a databook. In 700 chapters and nearly 650 episodes, nobody uses the databook title. So, 99% of people who read this series will know her by Yuhi, not Sarutobi. Changing the name is more likely to just confuse everyone and make some believe that the manga/anime are wrong, but not knowing why. It is enough that it is mentioned in the infobox, with an alternative in the lead (but nothing like that Kurenai Sarutobi nee Yuhi stuff, that's going to be very inconsistent and would require many characters to be updated to use that format, when it's just much easier to say alternative known as  when necessary). --Sajuuk talk 10:22, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I do want to point out that it wouldn't be very inconsistent, as Kurenei is the only known character to have actually changed her surname. No where has Kushina been referred to as Kushina Namikaze for example and thus no "Kushina Namikaze nee Uzumaki". If Boruto's series comes out and low and behold Hinata and Sakura changed their last names then it would be a simple case of just adding that to their introduction paragraph, but no need to move the entire page.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 11:57, January 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have not read all of the topic, and none of previous discussions, but I believe there's no need to move the article. She was known by her maiden name for the overwhelming majority of the series. I would have said that because there's no indication she ever married Asuma, that she wouldn't have his surname, but it seems a canon source says she has his surname. Just do like Harry Potter wiki did with Ginny and Hermione and Avatar wiki did with Amon and leave the article with the most recognizable name, and introduce their actual name in the opening paragraph and infobox. Sorry if I'm just restating what someone else has already said. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:11, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

New infobox image
Should we replace the current infobox image with one of these. Option A of her smiling, Option B without smile or Option C without lipstick. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 09:49, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * A looks perverted, B looks confused and C looks good but lacks lipstick.--Elve Talk Page 09:51, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Killer B looks good :D — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 09:53, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer the current image (meaning nothing changes), though I'm not sure anyone would take heed of that though. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 09:54, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Option A--Kuroiraikou (talk) 10:01, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Im a fan of B. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 10:44, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * The current pic is perfectly fine. Fine suggestions except C but I don't think her profile pic needs changing. Its aligned right and gets a good look at her beauty and confident pastor. --Rai 水 (talk) 09:23, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

I prefer B because It's neutral, the current pic looks like she is angry and her hair is covering her face, except C the rest of them looks good.--Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 09:36, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Genjutsu that rivaled even Itachi?
"Her skill with genjutsu is so vast that it is said to rival even those of Itachi Uchiha.", now that is over exaggeration. It only say something like... ''She is genjutsu specialist. Despite losing to Itachi, she has displays equivalent genjutsu''. I'm not sure how it was interpreted as "Her genjutsu knowledge is as vast as Itachi". Tayuri (talk) 08:23, March 25, 2015 (UTC)