Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-25358381-20140829051313/@comment-4271790-20140830163809

NeedleJizo wrote: Everyone drops one by one until it's down to Superman vs. Goku.

If you've seen ScrewAttack's Death Battle, I feel like the battle between Superman and Goku was flawed, one of the reasons being that Goku had a Senzu bean early in the fight, when he didn't really need it; Superman used the Sun to recharge near the end, when it looked like he was gonna lose. Another reason: Goku's intelligence was massively underestimated. The only people with more battle smarts than him were Piccolo and Vegeta. Example: Goku could have killed Cell, as seen with his Instant Kamehameha. But he wanted Gohan to do it: he only fought Cell to show Gohan what he could do so he wasn't going into the fight blind.

Another thing: Depending on who the writer is, Superman's power is wildly inconsistent. He's been shown being able to pull entire planets, but a couple issues later he gets knocked out by a strong enough lightning strike. Superman's been affected by all different types of magic over the years, from the random witches with bubbling cauldrons and Amazon sorcerers to Zantanna. Even in the New 52, his vulnerability against it remains unchanged. So as a baseline, Superman has no resistance or invulnerability to magic to begin with. So if a low-level magic user like Kami could harm Superman, it stands to reason that someone the caliber of Babidi or the Supreme Kai, who has thousands of years of experience, could seriously incapacitate or rob him of his powers. We're are talking about characters at their full power, not the inconsistencies they have. If you're talking Superman at full power or the Hulk at full power, Goku at full power wouldn't compare. Saiyans have limits, and have to break through them, while Superman and Hulk are limitless. For those two, there is no such thing as full power because they can keep getting stronger in a much faster process than Goku does. It drops down to Superman and Hulk.