Talk:Water Release: Water Trumpet

New Technique?
Sorry that my japanese is not so good, but with the japanese name given, is it not the same as Yahiko's Water Release: Violent Water Wave. I already did the redirect, but it would seem people disagree with me. --Gojita (talk) 17:20, October 21, 2010 (UTC)Gojita
 * The two techniques are pronounced the same, but have different kanji.--Deva 27 (talk) 17:25, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could be the same, could be different. The raw should enlighten us. —ShounenSuki (talk 17:34, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Yahiko's Water Release: Violent Water Wave is 水遁・水乱波 but the Water Release: Water Horn is 水遁・水喇叭.
 * And the same spoiler which gave us that gave us Ōnoki having Clay Release (as Chiriton, though I believe Clay Release would actually be called Nenton) and Deidara having Explosion Release (as Bakuton). While I believe the part about the Water Release might be correct, I still rather wait for the raws. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:17, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * The raw is out. The name of this technique is definitely . I'm going to move it to Water Release: Water Trumpet, to avoid confusion with biological horns. —ShounenSuki (talk 14:09, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Should that not be clarified in the trivia, that it is not an actual translation (though yes, that was confusing) just so no one gets confused about the difference? GoldenTopaz (talk) 04:35, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's necessary, really. Although 'horn' would technically be a more accurate translation, 'trumpet' is really just as valid. —ShounenSuki (talk 10:49, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but how? They are two different instruments. GoldenTopaz (talk) 03:14, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. Although 'horn' can refer to a specific instrument — also called the French horn — it is also a catch-all phrase for all sorts of similarly-shaped instruments, including the trumpet. The Japanese word 喇叭 has this catch-all meaning, rather than a more specific meaning. It did use to have a more specific meaning, though. It comes from the Dutch word roeper, which in English would be most similar to a bugle. —ShounenSuki (talk 12:06, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Cohesion
Okay, I can see where the confusion is a little, with "it's water so it does that sometimes". I said "When fired from the air, it will continue to rush along the ground in a straight line," which I got from. If you look at the middle panel you see it has maintained cohesion despite hitting a hard object (not happen when I spray a hose), plus, it continued going straight despite hitting the ground at a 45 degree angle. All I am trying to say is that it is noteworthy how this jutsu stays together instead of breaking up. GoldenTopaz (talk) 04:56, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can see where you're coming from, but you can't really see enough in those frames to say that with any true certainty. It could be a special effect of the water, but it could just as easily be a natural effect as well. —ShounenSuki (talk 10:49, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very well. GoldenTopaz (talk) 03:14, November 15, 2010 (UTC)