Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31171723-20170130214631/@comment-9782468-20170201031127

Thekillman wrote: The thing is, can Kakashi really stop Jiraiya from entering Sage Mode? His dog summons would be troublesome for Jiraiya since they can block his movement, but on the other hand how can they really survive the stuff Jiraiya can throw? There are a variety of other things, like Jiraiya being a master infiltrator making me wonder how well Kakashi's tactics work against him.

Before Sage Mode kakashi may have a shot, but i'm not convinced. Oh I pretty much completely agree with you. And Jiraiya's skill as an infiltrator kinda evens the playing field with Kakashi's Anbu/Assassination type abilities. All I was saying was that Jiraiya wasn't better in every aspect, like @Vladosaurus said. Pretty much I just got a little miffed because Kakashi is my favorite character. I don't think he'd win against SM, I think he's got a shot without it, so we agree there (even if you're less inclined to believe in his chances without SM).