Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-45444155-20200715142058/@comment-45444155-20200717113910

LegionZero wrote: ReweR 1331 wrote:

Rinnegan's just getting it from the 6P chakra now? From Hagoromo's Chakra. Which is 6 Paths Chakra

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Hagoromo gave Rinnegan the Sasuke through the chakra and not just for nothing, you're wearing the Sasuke with that eye. That is not how the databook describes it. In fact everything they showed up with after meeting Hagoromo was attributed to Hagoromo, not his chakra

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Yes, it's changed, but it's different ways of changing. Madara created Rinnegan from his chakra (or at least part of his, Indra's chakra) when Sasuke just got it from the outside. His chakra Indra did nothing, unlike Madara. Madara obtained the Rinnegan from Hagoromo's chakra.

Hagoromo bestowed Sasuke with his Rinnegan.

You are assuming that mixing to get Hagoromo's chakra somehow makes it different than just getting his chakra. Which doesnt make sense. If you have a tube blue paint and and a tube of yellow paint and mix them to get green paint, it is the same as having a tube of green paint

ReweR 1331 wrote:

Tom 70. Chapter 673. Do not ignore what Madara said one of the two / one of the pair. There's only one interpretation - Sasuke has half the power of Rinna. No there is not. Both official and fan translations dont translate it that way. If you are relying on internet translation programs, dont bother. They are not good at interpreting context, which changes wildly in japanese simply based on what characters are next to eachother.

It doesnt even make sense in the context. Why wpuld he ask if he has one or 2? He can freaking see he has one. Having one doesnt necessarily make it incomplete, it is a special Rinnegan, it doesnt even have a pair for Sasuke. How would we know that this new special Rinnegan comes in a pair?

Im going to take actual translations that take the entire chapter into account as more accurate than an internet program's rendition of one fraction of a statement ReweR 1331 wrote:

Yes, he also gets physical energy from Hagoromo / Ashura. But the main aspect of the Yin chakra is spiritual energy. It's supposed to be because of Yin that Sasuke has one Rinnegan. Had Sasuke Yang chakra SP he would have gotten Rinnegan in his right eye, probably. Get the Sasuke chakra SP, he'd have Rinnegan in both eyes. Something like that. In saying that he recieved the physical energy you debunked your own theory.

No matter how you spin it, Sasuke gets the physical energy or SP Yang chakra whatever you want to call it. Sasuke cannot have Hagoromo's chakra without the Yang Energy

If he didnt get the Yang, then he doesnt get the chakra and nothing happens

ReweR 1331 wrote:

I don't understand why you have to make up that Hagoromo is God and can do what he wants when you can prove it with the data you already have. He isnt literal God but he is the 2nd closest thing to it (Kaguya being the first). Hagoromo doesnt have to abide by all the rules most characters do.
 * That thing where Naruto made Kakashi an eye? Hagoromo can do that but a thousand times better.
 * Edo Tensei? Hagoromo can summon spirits from the afterlife without sacrifice.
 * Izanagi? That is just a discount version of Creation of all Things, which he can use to create life itself. He created 9 seperate, completely sentient beings, that could physically "grow up". Creatures the likes of which never existed in the world.

And knowing this you are going to tell me he cant create a modified Rinnegan? Really?

Hagoromo improved Naruto and Sasuke with his chakra, not his left heel. It was through the chakra that he could convey something (same Rinnegan), not just because he is God.

Rinegan Sasuke is Rinegan Hagoromo? What?!

Okay, let's use your examples. Madara mixed red (his Sharingan) and yellow (Hashirama's cells) paint to get green - his Rinnegan. Sasuke had red paint, which he also received green paint (Rinnegan) as a gift. Paints Sasuke = Rinnegan + Sharingan. Madara = Rinnegan or Sharingan. I hope I wrote it clearly.

Sync and corrected by honeybunny 片や輪廻眼を開眼したか. VIZ MEDIA also translated that Sasuke awakened one Rinnegan.

Well, that depends on who understands Yin-Yang. How do you think Release Yin-Yang is formed?

It's funny to me for some reason, but you described simple things that don't contradict the understanding of the chakras.

1) That's why he's a wise man, it's the same principle as creating everything, Yin gives form, Yang gives life...

2) Nagato did the same when he was returning the villagers he killed. Rinnegan power

3) Yes, but he does it based on simple chakra principles, Yin gives form, and Yang gives life. Hagoromo is a master at this, or maybe only he and the bearers of his chakra can activate Yin-Yang.

There's no magic in all this. Your situation with Rinegan Sasuke is magic, not chakra. Of course I agree that Rinnegan Sasuke is from Hagoromo, but in my opinion Rinnegan is only one because Hagoromo split his chakra into Yin, which Sasuke and Yang got from Naruto. You have to prove that the Rinnegan Sasuke is unique, it doesn't come with a set. So far, you're not doing a very good job, because I have the words of Madara, who pointed out that Sasuke has one Rinnegan out of two (片や輪廻眼を開眼したか).

Let's drop the possibility of activating Sharingan for now, let's just talk about Rinnegan.