Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160506202426/@comment-142748-20160508064240

Rachin123 wrote: @Super

And like I said we have no proof when Guy activated 6 gates. Did he activate it when he was running with Kakashi to find Naruto or just as they were about to attack Obito? We don't know. Kakashi and Guy were hardly seen side by side fighting the jinchuriki to actually compare speed of being in the same league. Kakashi was keeping up with Guy, and we saw them arriving at the exact same time with Guy in the Sixth Gate. Why are you so damn determined to saying Kakashi isn't as fast as Guy despite the evidence on screen? You say Naruto was at least moving as fast as Base Guy when attacking Obiti just before being teleported by Kakashi. Not even. Since Naruto and Guy were saving each other from Obito at the same speed? Oh that plan. Well the circumstances of how he uses the lightning clone would be different. As he used it after being buried under rubble. You are assuming that Kakashi uses the lightning clone, Kisane would physically come in contact with him or attack using Samehada. I mean for all we know. The "Kisame" that got paralysed could only be a water clone and that would make Kakashi's plan futile and would have wasted half his chakra. Kisame isn't big on using clones. He's only used them once against Team Guy, and didn't use them against since. Using clones is Kakashi's modus operanti as Choza explained: he uses clones to fill out his targets weaknesses and exploit them. And you expect me to believe Kisame would pull a feint on Kakashi when its not even his fighting style? Coming in contact with Samehada wouldn't matter, it'd be paralyzed TOO from the Lightning Shadow Clone's release. As we've seen, Samehada has trouble with elemental ninjutsu (it could barely tolerate touching a simple fireball from Itachi). And apparently all Kakashi's attacks are end all be all. Kakashi could use water clones but Kisame could creare waaaay more, or use Thousand Feeding Sharks. If Kakashi tries copying Kisame's more powerful water attacks, it will cost him a lot of chakra. Kakashi has lightning, and? As proven with Deidara, an elemental advantage isn't the end game. He pushed Sasuke to the edge. I know lightning can travel through water but we have no proof on much it can travel. Earth Release won't help Kakashi when the battlefield is an ocean created by Kisame. Kakashi's attacks are more lethal and more varied than just big water release after big water release. Kisame's entire fighting style gives openings that Kakashi easily can exploit. He fights like a fricking berserker and never plans ahead.

9 Arts dragon wrote: @SuperSaiyaMan

What are you talking about 4 and 4.5? Kakashi never uses raikirii to the head if you're going to state something at least state something in character...

Lastly samehada will rip Kakashi to shreds in close combat it dodged a 6 tails killer bee point blank range Its their official stats. You weren't aware of that? Kakashi has a near perfect 4.5 in speed, while Kisame has a 4 in speed.

Kakashi can use Raikiri to the head. Why can't he? 'He never did it' isn't an argument since he has the capability to do so.

Why would Samehada rip Kakashi to shreds? His chakra isn't big or tasty enough for Samehada to care (he lunged and ate Bee's shroud on his own since he loved the taste of Gyuki's chakra). Again, you're ignoring why Kisame has the advantage over Killer Bee while not even acknowledging that Kakashi doesn't fight like Killer Bee.