User talk:Seelentau

Amado and Delta
If you get the chance to see the raws for chapter 34, could you confirm their exchanges when they restore Delta's backup? One of the scanlations had him call her his daughter, the other didn't, and then there's the issue of that maybe meaning him making her through ninja tech. Oh, and regarding Sumire's Water Release, the portion of the episode she uses it is around the 7 minute mark. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:09, April 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * OD spoke about it on Twitter: https://twitter.com/OrganicDinosaur • Seelentau 愛 議 11:35, April 22, 2019 (UTC)

Downvote/dislike button
There was recently a user spewing falsities and opinions as fact, so business as usual sadly. I thought of something that might help future discussions. What are your thoughts on implementing a downvote button to threads? Assuming it is even possible in the first place, what are the pros and cons in your opinion? Would it give this wiki community more power to show their disapproval for certain posts? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Ninja Of War (talk) 11:02, April 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't care for the forums at all. If it were me, they wouldn't even exist in the first place. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:31, April 29, 2019 (UTC)


 * The button would be possible on this wiki though? Ninja Of War (talk) 15:22, April 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, but I don't think so. The wiki forum software is laughable at best. It's not even really a forum, tbh. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:04, April 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * A dislike button doesn't exist for Wikia forums and I doubt they will ever entertain the potential to add one. Often such features are used for abuse against people that others don't like, rather than for anything meaningful. --Sajuuk 20:34, April 29, 2019 (UTC)

Storm Dancer's name
https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:274883

someone claims it was a name mistake. but to me, i have a feeling the english version bandai made that name. although it may not be true, can you talk to Elfezen about that Storm Dancer article? please and thank you Kunoichi101 (talk) 06:11, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

I am Titanfan11
I am a sock puppet account of Titanfan11 who was blocked because I wrote that the whole idea that Madara plotted the death of Rin to make Obito become evil is the worst plot hole written by Masashi Kishimoto and I called Masashi Kishimoto am idiot and said he has a very irritating face. I also said that whenever I saw Masashi Kishimoto's face I feel like punching him.Basarafan11 (talk) 18:24, May 12, 2019 (UTC)

Okay. Listen. I am a martial artist, and I have studied swords - more specificially. I see why you think Sasuke's Kusanagi blade is a Chokuto, but it is actually a straight bladed Shikomizue.

If you want to get literal, the word Chokuto means straight blade so it'd be a Chokuto Shikomizue, but because of the specific way Sasuke sheaths it, it is classified as a Shikomizue.

Ino's Occupations ans tools
I got no response from ino's talk page, but Please add "Doctor" in Ino's occupation list (She was one in Sakura Hiden Novel) and "Poison" in her tools list (She used it in SH novel). Its crystal clear. So Please Please add them, at least with ^(Novel-only) sign. She is also the head of Yamanaka Clan, and if that's an occupation, please add it as well. Thankyou. Just trying to improve. No rudeness. Boogaloopop (talk) 22:32, May 27, 2019 (UTC)


 * Poison is already added. Check that properly. But about her being a doctor, it would be nice if someone could explain why its missing in her occupation list. I think it should be there eventho it was only in novel, Considering the fact that novels are mostly-canon. So pleaseSnapRider (talk) 22:40, June 2, 2019 (UTC)

Cursed Seal of Heaven
I want to know why my edit to the Cursed Seal of Heaven was erased. I was simply adding more information to the page, like how the initial activation made Sasuke more hostile. KeybladeNoctis (talk) 13:58, June 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Because our articles aren't play-by-play. Keep it short and concise please. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:31, June 17, 2019 (UTC)

Anime
Hi, there my name is Zuleika and I'm on the new anime content team. I was wondering if you had time to talk about the Naruto wiki page --Zuleika B (talk) 19:14, June 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey, sure, which one? • Seelentau 愛 議 19:31, June 17, 2019 (UTC)

This one, the Narutopedia. Do you have a Discord account or other chat software where we can discuss this in private? That way I can fully explain everything without adding too much Wiki stuff on your talk page. -- Zuleika B (talk) 11:33, June 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Please create a thread in the forums if you want to talk about the Naruto wiki. We generally decide on things together with the community. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:16, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

One day whole arc
It didn't actually air in one day. It seems the last Shippuden episode to actually broadcast on tv in the US was 312. All English episode air dates for Shippuden episodes 313-500 we have are actually the dates when they were released in the US as DVDs. I recall talking to one of our code-capable members when I first learned this (don't remember which though, maybe Simant?), asking if there was any infobox tinkering that could be done for proper display of what those dates were. I saw some sandbox/infobox edits, but they never manifested concretely. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:33, June 17, 2019 (UTC)
 * I think the chapter infoboxes were changed to display more information in the form of mouse-over text. Maybe that would be the best course of action? Although I faintly remember that it's not good for smartphones, and we all know FANDOM has the hots for smartphone readability. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:38, June 17, 2019 (UTC)

Thread Deletion
My point was that tenzo is the same character as yamato as it was implied in the story so why did you take down my thread when their was no reason to do such and if you disagreed with my point you should debated me on it rather than shutting down the discussion

Amenominaka
Could you please explain the reason why did you keep reverting my changes? The current description doesn’t seem to be manga/databook accurate, and in fact, it directly contradicts Kakashi’s words, and since there’s nothing to debunk his statement, I think my version of the article should be used instead. Also, its connection to other S/T techniques is dubious at best.

Issai Kaiku
Similar to other jutsu named from four-character idioms, do you think it's possible to have it translated into something more readily understandable? From what I can see, this can be somewhat translated as "Suffering from All Things". Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:47, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought we don't translate those mythological jutsu? Like Shinra Tensei etc. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:51, July 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression this was just a four-character idiom, not necessarily something mythological. We've done it before with Impermanence of Worldly Things. Since it's an expression, not an actual item, deity, or name. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:01, July 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * Neither are Shinra Tensei et al. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:31, July 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've always stayed clear of ST et al because those are a mix of both mythological stuff and word-play, not to mention the expression being split between ST/BT, and their actual literal translations being really big mouthfuls. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:41, July 31, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's the same for most idioms, if not most technique names. I suppose we could translate this one as "All Experience is Suffering", but I think we should treat all idioms the same - either translate all of them or translate none. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:41, July 31, 2019 (UTC)
 * Other than ST/BT, which I'm not sure how to handle owning the nature of the idiom not being all there in both jutsu names, I can't think of any other jutsu with untranslated idioms for names. There's Chibaku Tensei, but I don't think that's an idiom, which remained untranslated due to its mouthfulness (and maybe because the fandom in general was still rather trying to figure out ST/BT before it gave up translating them), I think, and some other untranslated Rinnegan stuff from Madara game movesets, but those are similarly either mouthfuls or split, in particular a BT derivate Banshō Kokuin. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 04:26, August 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it's probably too late to change those. Anyway, if you want to, you can move the article to "All is Suffering" or something similar. The idiom means that all things/experience is ultimately suffering, but the Kanji are only "All All Suffering". There's no "Things" or "Experience" Kanji there. Idioms are weird to translate sometimes. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:29, August 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, I found one more, which we actually talked about way back: Tenpenchii/Cataclysm. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:57, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Mind Showing Me Where I Can Post My Clans Info So It Can Be In This Website??...(K-Geezy)

Re: Game info stuff
I basically threw my hands up on that. Between the warning being ignored, the info (rather useless and overly specific as it is) staying in an appropriate section, and me being unable to edit for almost three weeks to properly interfere, I just gave up on it. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:06, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
 * Trivia subpages where one can let loose is basically what I tried doing for video game jutsu, and that went nowhere. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:22, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Changes
My bad on the Yin—Yang thing. My main goal with those edits was to add references and rearrange the information so it flows a little better to readers who may not have super in-depth knowledge on the topics. As you said, these topics are pretty iffy and convoluted, which is why I made sure pretty much everything is referenced. For the Six Paths Senjutsu one, I also wanted to make sure things only demonstrated by Ten-Tails hosts were noted as such, since there's no real indication whether stuff like the healing factor comes from SPS or the Ten-Tails itself, and previously it was kind of jumbled together. That said, if there's anything else you'd like me to revert, just let me know, the last thing I want is to make things even more confusing.--BeyondRed (talk) 10:06, September 28, 2019 (UTC)

Petal Diversion: Chakra Rope
Hello, I think I've found the name for this technique and a few others of Ino's from Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! Special on this website.

Ino's techniques can be viewed in this video and should be in the order

心錯身

羞月閉花

花天月地 (Chakra Rope)

羞月閉花

花天月地 (Flower Fireworks)

Chakra Rope and Flower Fireworks debuted in Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2 but there was no Japanese version and were left unnamed. They are given the same name in GNT Special. The article mentions that the only differences between the two is the difference in her dialogue and Chakra Rope does more damage than Flower Fireworks, although this is flipped in Clash of Ninja Revolution 2.

心錯身 and 羞月閉花 are new to GNT Special and their effect descriptions are written in the article. I'm not sure about how official this source is but even if you decide it isn't, can you add these 2 techniques to the wikia?

Cheesedcake (talk) 02:46, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Main Page title
Just moving (renaming) the mainpage does it automatically ~Ultimate Supreme  20:58, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Oasis-home. You can see all of them here~Ultimate Supreme  06:20, December 1, 2019 (UTC)

RE
Saw nobody contributing to the conversation, but considered the topic noteworthy nonetheless.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 17:06, December 3, 2019 (UTC)

Planet-Branding Blast
I've been meaning to ask but completely forgot. Can you double check the translation for Boro's Lava Release jutsu from chapter 40? The current title is from the Viz translation, with the exception of the usual "Style → Release". Source for the kanji. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, December 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no worries, got that already. I think it can stay as it is. The kanji don't really make that much sense to me anyway. • Seelentau 愛 議 11:20, December 4, 2019 (UTC)

Urashiki folklore
In the folklore that seems to be the origin of Urashiki's name, are there any references to owls or birds of prey? I know you don't watch the anime, but his transformation after eating his eyes gave him a owl/harpy like look. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:59, December 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * I've never read that story, actually, so I don't know. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:29, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Profile page
So... Can I have a profile page explaining how I am an editor for fandom wiki's? --SpecialOperationsTrooper 19:49, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
 * No. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:28, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

New Wiki Manager thread
Hello Tau! I saw you spoke with Zuleika some months ago, we are coworkers, & I just thought to let you know that I’m the new Wiki Manager for Narutopedia. I made a primary introduction thread (& a proposal) about that here, so please check it out! -Ursuul (talk) 01:57, December 19, 2019 (UTC)

Rasengan Unison
I managed to find the kanji, it's 連奏, but furigana don't spell out "rensō", and with the image I have, I can't make out the second and third. I think the first is つ, but I'm torn between ち/ら for the second and な/ね for the third, if any of these guesses are even right, and what they might even mean. Any thoughts? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 07:11, December 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * つらね Tsurane. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:52, December 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Is "unison" still an accurate translation when taking in consideration both the kanji and the furigana? The article has to be moved to account for how the jutsu was written similar to Fire Release Bullet: "Blaze", I just want to avoid having to move it twice. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:40, December 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yup, "unison" still works just fine. I assume VIZ uses it too? • Seelentau 愛 議 21:39, December 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. I don't know if something happened in the scanlating scene, but for the last couple chapters, it's not even a scanlation, it's the actual VIZ chapter that I see online. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:47, December 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think Boruto is still being scanlated. At least OD isn't doing it any longer. MS stopped their work entirely and JB stopped scanlating WSJ series. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:47, December 26, 2019 (UTC)

Kanabō vs Kanasaibō
Is there any significant difference between the terms 金砕棒 and 金棒 as far as the weapon club they describe, or are they simply slightly different names for the same thing? It came up in trying to figure out a particular naming choice by the anime. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 08:40, January 1, 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry but butt in: Kanabou is actually a classification of the weapon type (long, thick metal cudgel-shaped rods).--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 08:50, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?
I didn't break any rules, so why was my page deleted? Raidra (talk) 17:44, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * Because you've made 11 edits to articles in the past 12 months, which is not enough to warrant a user page. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:41, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay. Raidra (talk) 19:47, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * Activity needs to be sustained? Since when? Userpage policy does not state that. Munchvtec (talk) 21:03, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. "Belongs to a user that has never contributed to the wiki." - of course Raidra has not 'never' contributed to the wiki, but eleven edits in twelve months are not far off. A barely active editor doesn't need a user page. Besides, it didn't talk about them as an editor of this wiki anyway. • Seelentau 愛 議 23:48, February 4, 2020 (UTC)

Exactly, you made it up. They stated they broke no rule, which you didn't deny besides the one you made up. Oh well. Munchvtec (talk) 23:55, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course I didn't deny it, why would I? There's no rule that you're not allowed to have a user page. But there's a guideline that barely active (or inactive) users don't need a user page, especially not one that talks about themselves as a person.
 * If that was a rule, it would say something like "Only users who have x edits per month are allowed to have a user page" or something similar. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:01, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Research on Fandom Wikia
Hi, I am conducting research on user activity on fandom wikia. I am trying to get responses from as many people from the fandom community as possible so is there a way to spread this survey as much as possible. The survey is quick and completely confidential and it would be extremely helpful if you could take the time to fill it out through the attached link below.

https://forms.gle/roCGKYfavnrVDjDZ6

Thank you so much!

-RobinZoro
 * Hey there, the above form is not allowed per Fandom's Terms of Use. We have warned RobinZoro. Unai01 20:14, February 26, 2020 (UTC)

Vandal
Hello. I recently noticed that an inter-wiki vandal had targeted your wiki also and wanted to forward some info on them. Appy456 is also known as Appy457 and Appy 458. He's using Global JS now to cause more damage: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User:Appy458/global.js / https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User:Appy457/global.js

I hope that this information is of use to you. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:45, February 28, 2020 (UTC)

what is the exact canon rule now ?
every sense bourtuo the anime and manga came and meesed up the canon rules for this series i do not know what can be considered canon and what is filler so what is the wiki poilce on this do we just consider manga canon or anime as well now ?
 * I don't know, I didn't make those rules. I think it was TU3, so you'd have to ask him. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:26, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

You are a troll
Masked as a knowledgeable person, all you do is go around to profiles and type "Don't feed the troll". You shouldn't even be here, the moderators should ban you, and you should drop the probably fake "credentials" on your profile. SaltyMeatBall (talk) 19:08, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright. • Seelentau 愛 議 06:57, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Hey i'm sort of new here and I just made a page but i'm not sure if I did everything correctly...

Trivia Question
Isn't the definition of trivia that it is vacuous information? What makes trivia noteworthy then? Cause I could never find a clear definition to work for me.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 18:39, March 4, 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no blanket definition of when a trivia point is noteworthy. I'd always ask myself: How does it contribute to the reader's experience? What do they take away from it and in what way is it relevant to the series, the character or whatever. I feel like your trivia point was more of a "so what?" kind of information, in that it doesn't hold any relevance in the context of the series (hair over eyes never really mattered, right). • Seelentau 愛 議 18:57, March 4, 2020 (UTC)

Discord
As you probably know, the forums are being retired soon; they're scheduled to be retired this month. In order for the wiki staff to continue to communicate about any wiki changes, I've created a discord for us so that communication may go more smoothly than if we tried to use the new Discussions feature, which for now lacks what we need.

The discord now has many people in it, but there is a separate role for all staff so that only staff can see chats relating to the wiki. If you'd rather not be bothered by the server unless for wiki-related purposes, you can simply mute the servers for general use and only be notified when the wiki-related channels are used.

Going further than that, you can even turn off notifications for the whole discord and only be notified when you are pinged.

Here is the link to the discord:

https://discord.gg/pZM2TJH

Squinty97 (talk) 14:46, April 7, 2020 (UTC)
 * If I wanted to, I'd have already joined. But I rarely even use Discord, nor do I care much for this wiki anymore. So I'll have to decline. On that note, it would probably be best to look for a new SysOp to take my place, as long as forums are still available. I'll not be retiring, but well, my activity hasn't been much for the last couple of months and it probably won't go up again. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:05, April 7, 2020 (UTC)

Reverted edits
Hello, Tau. Recently I've edited "Departure (episode)" page and "Nightmare" page. Could you tell, why did you reverted my edits?

FigazMaslam (talk) 18:04, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
 * Because episodes aren't part of two different arcs. • Seelentau 愛 議 18:12, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Regarding "Departure (episode)" (Anime Episode 220). "As Naruto prepares to leave for his two-and-a-half years of training with Jiraiya" This is from Anime Episode 220 synopsis. "Naruto has a meal with Iruka before departing for his three years of training with Jiraiya" This is from Manga Chapter 238 summary. Manga Chapter 238 is part of Sasuke Recovery Mission. Thus, first part of Anime Episode 220 is Sunagakure Support Mission Arc, second part is the ending of Sasuke Recovery Mission Arc. I want to point, that this is very important for people, who want to watch series without fillers.

FigazMaslam (talk) 19:00, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Edit
Not sure why my edit was removed from trivia. It is neither wrong nor right, and it elaborates further on perceptions of the topic, thus making it trivia. The wiki page for Kamui makes a bold statement by definitively saying that nothing can enter or exit Kamui besides Kamui, when we have seen a stronger, much more expansive space-time ninjutsu, Kaguya's technique, be infiltrated by a basic summoning technique from the inside, as well as a reverse-summon. As far as I'm concerned, nothing bars it from being categorized as trivia, considering that this incident has been considered by many people on many occasions.

Quick translation check
Could you confirm that the Ougi for Momoshiki and Kinshiki here are "三鬼神/Sankishi" and "荒武融/Arataketōshi", and that Kinshiki's awakening action here is "天羽々矢/Amanohabaya"? The game's English translations are "Triple Threat", "Frenzied Fury", and "Heavenly Winged Arrow" respectively. Any puns/wordplay to be mindful of when translating? I know Kinshiki's AA appears to be a mythological bow. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 05:28, May 16, 2020 (UTC)

Apology
I don't know if you read what I wrote in my personal page, but it was the only place I was able to write in at the time. I am sorry for the error in judgment. I honestly thought I was fixing an missed gap in the information for those techniques. If it they are not classified as being originally form the Uchiha clan, I will accept that. At the same time, if there is an error like this again, could you please tell me instead of blocking me. My goal is to help build this site.--Steveo920 (talk) 22:00, June 6, 2020 (UTC)

Ultimate Ninja 3
Why was the trivia removed? It's true, and also happens in Ultimate Ninja 4. Here is a video of the jutsu. And this is Jonathan's pose. Shantsa99 (talk) 22:02, June 12, 2020 (UTC)
 * We don't draw comparisons to other series. • Seelentau 愛 議 09:02, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Tobirama's Statement
Hey, Seel. Can you confirm whether Tobirama was referring to the Body Flicker Technique or the Body Flicker Technique when he was comparing himself to Minato? --UltimaDude (talk) 14:51, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken
Hello Seelentau

Sorry to bother you, I'm here to respond to the revision problem in the "Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken" article. It's said that the ninjutsu is "the most marvelous ninjutsu of all time", the reference is Fourth Databook. However, after I tried to find the evidence, it was not explained at all.



You can check in here: https://kiyoitsukikage.tumblr.com/image/150278045409

This is RAW Version:

Thank you

--Ridzkyh (talk) 18:29, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

Why?
WHy did you delete my message for? I was just asking. Sonic879 17:28, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
 * The user is inactive. Also, if you want something changed on a locked page, please use the talk page of that page. • Seelentau 愛 議 14:11, July 4, 2020 (UTC)

Hi there. Orochimaru is listed as various not male on the wiki. He is also listed as a parent not father. Please change Rogu/Log’s page to reflect the true canon. It is incorrect to have Orochimaru listed as “father” when canon lists Orochimaru as “parent”. Especially because it’s been referenced heavily in the Boruto show as such. Your edits are incorrect and not true to canon. Wisteria7 (talk) 14:44, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

Affiliation Request
I asked for an affiliation request over at the forums board: here  Toji-san  Visit My Wall  08:30, July 9, 2020 (UTC)

Fugaku game jutsu
In Naruto Blazing, Fugaku has a jutsu with this kanji [火遁・轟火焱の術]. The blazing wiki translates it as "Fire Style: Roaring Flames Jutsu" but I was wondering if you could translate what it literally means? Also, I know you're kinda done translating stuff for this series now and I respect that, but idk who else to ask who has the resources you do. Thanks for your time, though.--GunmetalDragon (talk) 00:37, July 13, 2020 (UTC)
 * 焱? Are you sure it's not 炎? It means what they say it means, anyway. And I suggest https://ejje.weblio.jp/ for Kanji stuff. • Seelentau 愛 議 02:06, July 13, 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm certain it was 焱. Here's a video with the kanji in it. I've never seen the word fire/flames used with that kanji before so I thought it meant something specific. Again, thanks a bunch.--GunmetalDragon (talk) 06:28, July 13, 2020 (UTC)

Shisui's Susanoo
How is the animation from the game considered "anime"? I thought saying "anime only" was a way for us to describe when something appeared in the show, not an animation sequence in the game. Because the game is the only place the technique appears. Squinty97 (talk) 16:43, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
 * It's in the anime made for the game, right? I don't think we make a distinction of that anime and the normal anime. • Seelentau 愛 議 22:49, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
 * But the point remains the only place the technique appears is in the game. Technicalities aside, if you ask anyone what it means to be from the anime only, I'm reasonably sure most people would say anything that's only from the show. Squinty97 (talk) 00:24, July 18, 2020 (UTC)
 * I mean, I don't really care either way. I'm just here to ban vandals and undo their edits^^ • Seelentau 愛 議 12:41, July 18, 2020 (UTC)