User talk:QuakingStar

Re: You see this?
I really, absolutely, honestly and whole-heartedly don't care. Naruto ended in November for me, anything coming is something new for me and I'll be damned to give it the same attention I gave Naruto. It would be a waste of time. • Seelentau 愛 議 17:15, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Behaviour
Your behaviour in the forums is unacceptable. Stop going into threads and making unfounded accusations against users when you have no proof of your claims. If a forum moderator, or another user, reports to us that you continue to act like a moderator and disrupt the community with unnecessary abuse, you will be blocked from editing once more. Read the forum policy since it seems you didn't bother to do so last time. --Sajuuk talk 09:43, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Dragon Ball Wiki
Sure, I'd love to! I've always felt that the current Dragon Ball Wiki has become a comeplete fanonwiki anyway.--Jizo 悟 (talk) 11:27, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Chapter 700+3 Discussion
I've read over the discussion and his posts to WindStar's talk page. In the future, try to take personal discussions like this to your talkpages instead of mucking up the forums. As I told him, there's no right or wrong person here.

"You haven't made ANY contributions and this is a discussion thread so what could you have possibly contributed here??" - That was kinda fucked up to say. Watch it next time. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 08:46, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * This is getting ridiculous. I am sick of your behaviour being reported so many times by users and I'm sick of you constantly backseat moderating in threads. If I hear any more reports about your behaviour, you are going to be blocked for a long time. You aren't always right, stop acting like you are. So yeah, last warning or you will be blocked. --Sajuuk talk 09:03, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Quick question
Uh, I'm sorry....what? Is that username? If so, then no. I am not him or her.-- Ninja Sheik  20:24, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Are you...
...Law Trafalgar on NarutoForums?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:40, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

The Last heights
I see you're the one who added the heights for characters in The Last. Could you get your source? User TenshinG pointed me to this and they might conflict with the heights you added. Were they settei or something similar? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:12, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think you should direct your message at TenshinG him/herself. There's only one height that remains changed at the moment, Shino's, just fyi. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:39, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Was wondering
Nope, no idea. I recently bought Retsu no Sho, the WSJ volume with Sho no Sho and the WSJ volume where Kishi talks about Nagato's chakra receiver, though. But it will take a while before they arrive, buying from Japan is difficult at times. • Seelentau 愛 議 10:51, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I also did this. Anything I forgot? • Seelentau 愛 議 14:36, July 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Retsu no Sho arrived ^_^ • Seelentau 愛 議 14:11, July 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing that we didn't add yet. By the way, have you seen the heights for the characters in Boruto The Movie? • Seelentau 愛 議 12:55, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * If not, go ahead and add them:

Naruto: 180 cm (5”10), Hinata: 163 cm (5"4), Himawari: 138 cm (4"6), Boruto: 145 cm(4"9), Sasuke: 182 cm (5”11), Sarada: 147 cm (4”9), Mitsuki: 149 cm (4”10), Shikamaru: 176-177 cm (5”9), Shikadai: 154-155 cm (5"), Sai: 176 cm (5”9), Inojin: 147 cm (4”9), TenTen: 166 cm (5”5), Rock Lee: 179 cm (5”10), Momoshiki: 176 cm (5"9), Kinshiki:231 cm (7"6). They're all from character sheets that leaked or so. So no worries about the legitimity. :) • Seelentau 愛 議 13:00, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, you know of them already. Okay then~ • Seelentau 愛 議 13:58, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I know, the Boruto sheet shows him at 177 as well, didn't bother to correct it x) • Seelentau 愛 議 20:06, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

The WSJ issues arrive. The Sho no Sho is included, but it appears the comment about the black stakes doesn't exist in the other WSJ... 20€ for nothing, yay~ :D • Seelentau 愛 議 16:10, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'll ever translate that book. ^^' And the comment wasn't in it because it doesn't exist. The spoiler script I found a while ago was fake all along and somehow, I never noticed that. And I don't know why anyone would ever buy a WSJ from 2009^^ I'll keep it~ • Seelentau 愛 議 20:28, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Versus Polls
Very interesting idea with the voting polls for Versus debates. Honestly, I think that would be a cool function. The problem is, that would require a new script to be made. The current one we have only has "Support/Neutral/Oppose" options.

But if you're willing to, feel free to approach a Sysop with the idea. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 03:01, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * A new script? Not really. One could just use a poll like this, or so. 03:20, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, nothing stops anyone from using them. There's no rule against it. It's just a matter of people knowing they exist and how to integrate it into the original post. For instance, this:

Who's your favourite user of Susanoo? Kakashi Hatake Indra Ōtsutsuki Itachi Uchiha Madara Uchiha Sasuke Uchiha Shisui Uchiha
 * Will translate into this:

Who's your favourite user of Susanoo? Kakashi Hatake Indra Ōtsutsuki Itachi Uchiha Madara Uchiha Sasuke Uchiha Shisui Uchiha
 * It's quite simple really. 06:04, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Sigh
You can't be serious dude. This and this are unacceptable. Period. I do not want to block you again. But if I see any of this again, you'll leave me no choice, and I promise you, you'll be blocked for awhile. Do not use the forums nor the wiki, as a way to blatantly insult other users. 06:20, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

re: why
The term "fanboy" is nothing compared to the obscene venom you spewed. What you said is not only offensive, but counts as a Wikia TOU violation, for crying out loud. You should have been blocked for a month without warning for that. But, I once again find myself holding back simply because I like you as an editor, but feel that you just need to cool down. I'll let you in on something: your initial block was supposed to be a week (by SuperSajuuk's intent) rather than three days, but I toned it down. You could have been blocked for a month without warning, but I warned you anyway and shortened it to two weeks. Rage gtx won't go without warning, but seriously... there was no need for anything you said. At all. No offense, but you've literally been the one consistent problem in the versus debates board, constantly getting into it with other people. So long as I am a forum operator, such behavior as you exemplified will not be condoned. Ever. Tone it down, or next time, the gloves are coming off. That's a promise. 15:14, July 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Warned him. OK. Let's make this easier: Next time you feel a sly remark thrown towards you, don't deal with it yourself. Just tell me in the "Miscellaneous Requests" section on my talkpage and I'll try to deal with it so none of us get in trouble. >_<
 * EDIT: Oh, and while I'll appreciate the reports, please don't go overboard and report every user for every little thing the said to you or about you. Not everything is meant to be an insult. >_> <_< 22:38, July 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thread doesn't look that bad from my point of view. I don't think enforcing the manga or databook solves much. It's a versus debates board man. No need to bring up the manga and databook all the time or "what is canon and what isn't." Not everyone knows what's in the databooks, and many people interpret the manga differently (which I've come to know >_>).
 * Allow me to be blunt: People don't really give a damn about stats man. It's a versus debates board. Constantly going in there and saying "you're wrong, manga/databook/stats say this," is not the best option man. 17:07, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Stop with the "nobody cares what you think" comments. Seriously. I can make a case that others don't care what you think either, but they don't tell you because they don't want things to escalate. Keep things civil.
 * EDIT: And this is strike two. (Strike one in case you didn't see). I don't need to explain what happens after strike three. 23:29, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

Forum Behavior
I'm not coming at you in a hostile or aggressive way when I say this; watch your forum behavior.

You have a history of writing legit novels of acid toward other users, especially in Versus battles, who've taken a view contrary to yours. I'm not WindStar, so I won't leave any specific examples. But instead of waiting for you to go off again, edit your comment and give you a warning then, I'm telling you right now.

Both WindStar and myself have received complaints from various users about your behavior and we've both restrained ourselves because of our liking for you. But one more outburst and you won't be posting in the forums for a while.

Once again, no hostility or anger is intended in this message. But next time, try to keep things civil before you start spewing bile everywhere. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 23:55, July 28, 2015 (UTC)

New settei sheets
Hey @Itachiwasahero, there are a bunch of new heights found here http://blog.pierrot.jp/archives/8481 if you'd like to add them. A lot of heights of characters in their younger stages for you to add as trivia notes. Just thought you'd like to do that :) Munchvtec (talk) 12:37, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright cool. Munchvtec (talk) 12:04, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Uchiahmasters
I've been keeping an eye on him. I don't want to hand out a warning just yet, but know that his actions aren't going unnoticed. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 02:48, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I see how this can be frustrating. But it doesn't seem very likely that three users are following you around, specifically to challenge you in threads. I've read through the comments and I don't see anything derogatory in them - yet. Please, try to avoid hashing it out in the threads themselves. But these coincidences (as I will refer to them until they can be definitively called harassment) do seem rather, convenient. They have my attention. But don't start any flame wars. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 04:17, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yo!
Don't bother going off on people like that man. Not worth it. Munchvtec (talk) 17:33, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * I know how you feel. All these forum only users. lol Munchvtec (talk) 17:48, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * These users. ugh. I want to hurt them lol Munchvtec (talk) 18:28, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Biased, yes lmao. They will never agree with anything we say because they love Gaara. Gaara Gaara Gaara! Munchvtec (talk) 18:34, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Try to take a break man. They are clueless. Munchvtec (talk) 05:13, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * I didnt say be nice. Just calm down. No one needs you blocking yourself over petty users that even i couldn't possibly care less about. Munchvtec (talk) 05:18, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks man. Munchvtec (talk) 05:23, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Could you hop on chat for a moment? Munchvtec (talk) 05:27, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

heights
I see you've added some heights and provided links in your edit summary. Thank you for that. Please also provide links when referring to SP's blog. Specific blogs become difficult to find as more time passes, so simply saying it's from SP may be insufficient in the future or at the very least make things needlessly complicated. ~SnapperTo 00:02, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

re:
I have no idea. You could ask UltimateSupreme, or maybe even try Community Central. ~SnapperTo 05:41, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Norleon pointed these out afterwards
I wanted to say this in the thread, but it got closed, so I'm going to say this here. You were the one who used "retarded", not in that particular discussion, but directed towards the same users. Just so you know: I was not speaking in your favour, my criticism was also directed towards your behaviour, just as it is directed towards those users who sucessfully (and, it seems to me, deliberately) provoked you into the state you're currently in. I can see it's frustrating to deal with people who don't want to listen to you, but there are some behaviours I can't approve of, no matter the circumstances, and calling people "retarded" is one of them.

Please just take a step back from them and don't give them what they want, namely your anger. I'm also going to adress them, hoepfully this ends somewhat amiable. Norleon (talk) 05:40, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Forum behaviour
You have been warned several times before about this. This is your last warning. If other users are trying to flame/troll you, don't reply to them; Report them to a mod/sysop or on the requests page. If your behaviour continues, you will be blocked--~Ultimate Supreme  10:48, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Stop trying to add something that's false
Itachi always has had naturally low stamina. Hell his stat in that doesn't take his illness into account. In part I when he was healthy, Itachi could use the MS only three times a day before he wasn't able to wield the Sharingan and it takes more than 30%of his chakra to use even one Mangekyo Sharingan technique since he couldn't use them as a Shoten Clone. Stop trying to weasel out with false information because you want Itachi to be beter than he actually was.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:05, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * This isn't about liking or hating Itachi, QuakingStar, this is about article accuracy. Kimimaro has a 4.5 in stamina...despite literally being on his death bed when fighting Naruto, Rock Lee, and Gaara. Thus, we know that illnesses aren't taken into account on stat. Itachi has always had low stamina, at no point of the manga was he ever said to have anything else. And no, you're assuming Itachi was sick the ENTIRETY in Akatsuki since it fits you're argument when you have no proof.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:22, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Doesn't work that way, QuakingStar. Since Kimimaro had almost perfect stamina with his illness, we know that the 4.5 is his natural stamina state. Same with Itachi's 2.5 stamina state. Itachi was taking medicine since his illness looked like a recent thing: notice how he rushed everything in Part II instead of taking more time to plan. It IS possible for something that deadly to strike quick and fast. And we know he was in an even better state than Kimimaro too, he could at least walk without every step taking him closer to death (when even talking for Kimimaro was lethal). Hell the only time his illness was even in effect is when Susanoo was used. Itachi went to Konoha to warn Danzo since he thought Danzo was breaking their bargain (which he didn't). Sorry, you assume Itachi was sick for far, far longer than he actually was.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:38, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * ...I gave you my proof. You don't have any QuakingStar. You assume Itachi was sick the entire time in Akatsuki (nothing Obito says states that nor do databooks support it). You're relying solely on your interpretation of Itachi's abilities and assumptons of his 'healthy' state.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:45, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * It was about their agreement. Itachi thought that Danzo would try to attack or kill Sasuke, and he needed a reminder Itachi was still out there. No illness or anything. Again, you're making assumptions. Its quite clear Itachi's illness struck him in Part II, probably about a month before his battle with Sasuke. Hence why he rushed things.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:50, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, you're assuming it is because of his illness, not ITachi knowing Danzo's modus operanti and his perchance for breaking deals. Stop adding assumptions, and until we settle this while talking, please do not edit.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:05, February 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * And another thing: Itachi had disappeared from public view for how long? In fiction, when two characters make a deal and one disappears for a long time, the first character assumes he can break the deal or go behind the other's back. Then the second character returns to remind him he's still alive and the deal's in place. This sort of thing is standard in fiction. Again, you're using assumptions.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:09, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Guys, I think you need to discuss this issue at Itachi's talkpage cause these things cannot be decided between only two users (although currently I see no agreement even between you two at all, it's the second reason). Ravenlot 27 (talk) 20:11, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

You really like exaggerating things don't you?
Seriously, reacting to Kirin isn't impressive at all in the sake of the Narutoverse. Itachi couldn't dodge it, couldn't outrun it, etc. All he could do is raise Susanoo which requires no physical movement or physical reaction. If he actually had these reactions he wouldn't have been cut in half by Kabuto. Kakashi was said to cut a lightning bolt with Chidori but we don't put it in his article. Not only that, Itachi was never said to have 'immense speed', which is another exaggeration. Oh and before you say 'you just hate Itachi bla bla bla', the article in place is agreed and has been accepted for years. It isn't about any hate. So please think before you edit again, go through: 'Does this make here> sound better than they actually were?' --SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:13, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re: SuperSaiyan
I think it'd be best to bring that up on Itachi's talkpage as you two have strong positions pn the situation. Although it could be pure reaction speed, it could very well be that the Susanoo appearing out and disappearing, and wondering how Itachi survived was to induce the revelation of the Susanoo to be more dramatic. So again I think you should bring it up on the talkpage. --Rai 水 (talk) 20:58, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

Yo in the past I think I was rude about a discussion regarding Nagato's intelligence so I apologize for that. However, I found it absurd that nagato would go to the hidden leaf to capture the nine tails and then not prep for the possibility fpof the seal breaking. Almost all the other jinhcurki manifested into their tailed beasst form when they were captured. Secondly, I don't think he planned to send out the pains a few at a time, if he did that was foolish because all 6 at once would have stomped jiraiya. Nagato is good at battle field formations but after that he gets fooled pretty easily. MlGshinobi (talk) 03:22, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Forum
I know it may be frustrating to deal with users who come at you rude but you have to be more civil. Responding the way you did is not the way to go. Look at me. I don't need to say that many words to get my point across without insulting in such a rude manner. Please control how you do that. --Rai 水 (talk) 00:12, March 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * Are you really leaving? I mean I understand if you do but I wish you just leave temporarily and cool off because like I said, people here can be infuriating but you have to learn to be level headed when you approach them. --Rai 水 (talk) 07:42, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Color Correction
The color balance for the yellow/blue slider needs to be +38. FF-Suzaku (talk) 18:10, March 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * No idea. For the character art assets, they were color-shifted to have a yellow tint via a color balance layer in the PSD files. I don't know anything about the game's textures or models. FF-Suzaku (talk) 07:39, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, On the Minato wikia, It say's he has the highest scores in the academy, But so did Itachi Uchiha, you think it should be added? In Itachi's wikia, it say's Itachi had the highest scores alongside MInato. So it should be on both, Not just Itachi's right? ~The Hero~ 02:18, March 25, 2016 (UTC) Cloud

Of course, we don't pick and choose things on the wikia, at least we shouldn't. QuakingStar (talk) 03:10, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

ATTENTION RACHIN123 AND SEELENTAU
Since I can't write to anyones pages @Rachin123 and @Seelentau. The Databooks work like this.. first profile for each person has their data from their first manga panel/appearance in said part of series. So Sai was 17 when he was made his first manga panel appearance, meaning it was already at least November 25th. Konohamaru was still 11 in his first Shippuden manga panel appearance meaning it was not December 30th when Naruto came home, but it was past October 10th for sure because DB3 says Naruto was 16 upon first Shippuden manga panel appearance since it was his first profile of Shippuden. Now Hinata's first shippuden panel appearance it says she was 16.. so that means it was at the least December 27th when Hinata had her first shippuden manga panel. Therefor Databook 3 retconned the Mini Databook ages altogether which is entirely not shocking or unexpected at all. It's only logical. QuakingStar (talk) 21:06, March 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * Na, each databook shows the stats from the last chapter it covers. • Seelentau 愛 議 00:03, March 28, 2016 (UTC)

Yahiko's age
I probably asked about this some years ago already, but what was the problem with Yahiko's age again? I'm working a little on my timeline and from what I can see, Yahiko dying at age 15 is legit. Nagato and Konan were 17 years old at that time. • Seelentau 愛 議 19:29, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * In all actuality there is nothing contradicting him being 15 except for The pain arc where his Yahiko's body was pegged as 25-30yrs old. Idk if that has been retconned, or that the people of Konoha are retarded lol QuakingStar (talk) 20:03, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Wasn't it about Obito as well? Dunno, you even posted about it on Yahiko's talk page in January about this...
 * And a 15-yo can still look like 25 to 30. :P • Seelentau 愛 議 20:11, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ohhhh yeah I was going by the anime and the Akatsuki creation OVA's timeline. Yahiko died around the same year Itachi became Anbu in the anime and in the OVA. Yahiko died at 25yrs old in 6ANB(the year Itachi became Anbu) in the anime and that OVA making him born 19bnb just like Nagato. The Anime made him being 25yrs old fit, so did Kishi's OVA he made for the Storm Game. Kishi himself designed Shisui and the akatsuki story ova's so I don't know how to to take them. QuakingStar (talk) 20:23, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't think Kishimoto has a complete overview of the timeline. And it's impossible for Yahiko to have died after Naruto's birth, because he died in the third world war and that one ended before Naruto was born. How do you know Yahiko was 25 in the anime/OVA, though?
 * And on an unrelated note, can you remember where it was said that Hashirama and Madara were the same age? • Seelentau 愛 議 20:34, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

It was never explicitly said they were the same age, they just followed the transmigrate pattern. Which is being born in the same year as to fight each other. Naruto and Sasuke are one example.. the Ashura and Indra spirits couldn't transmigrate because Madara cheated death. When he died after training Obito for awhile after Obito gained the Mangekyo, that's when they were able to transmigrate. I think it's safe to say Hashi and Madara were only 1-2 years older then Izuna, and they were the same age as each other. But as it stands Yahiko is confirmed to be still 15 when he died as of DB4.. though one thing we do know is that there are obvious errors in it that should be ignored such as Hiruzen becoming Hokage 14yrs bnb... your NWW timeline pretty much proved that wrong QuakingStar (talk) 20:39, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Another reason that Hiruzen becoming Hokage 14yrs Bnb is bs, is that DB4 says that at the manga panel appearance of Kagami and Torifu, they were 25yrs and 30yrs old and that later on Kagami died at 25 too, so he died not long after Tobirama died during the first SWW. So Hiruzen was 25-30 when he became Hokage, considering that the Kinkaku Force was active during the First Shinobi World War as DB4 and the wikia's page on them say. Therefor it is impossible that Hiruzen became Hokage only 14yrs Bnb. Just another fix for your timeline QuakingStar (talk) 13:28, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * But it actually is possible. Just look at my timeline right now. • Seelentau 愛 議 13:53, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Idk how that fits then as they all looked so young when Tobirama died, no wrinkles no facial hair or anything. Plus the Kinkaku Squad was from the 2nd and 3rd Raikage's time and DB4 says Kagami was 25 and Torifu was 30 at their appearance. Idk.. Hiruzen was said to have become Hokage at an age older than Kakashi was, 29-30 by Danzo calling him too young. So Hiruzen was at least 30-31 years old and that matches Torifu's age. at Tobirama's death.. which is where Hiruzen is named Hokage.. see what I mean? QuakingStar (talk) 16:11, March 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * What do Torifu and Kagami have to do with this? By the way, I adjusted the NWW timeline to reflect (hopefully) all of this. • Seelentau 愛 議 16:16, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Danzo, Torifu and Kagami were all about the same age as Hiruzen(Not Kagami though obviously lol) they were in the academy at the same time and graduated the same year, going by the fact that they were Danzo's teammates. So if Danzo said 29 was too young to be a Hokage, and Kakashi was 29, then you if all of Tobirama's teams he had with him when he died were about the same age(minus Kagami since Uchiha are apparently develeped earlier than other clans) then Hiruzen was 30-31 when Tobirama died with the whole group except Kagami being about the same age.. I literally just can't see Hiruzen becoming Hokage at such an Old Age considering what I've already said. Danzo's flashback shows him with no facial hair, wrinkles or any old age type stuff at all. QuakingStar (talk) 16:23, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

I forgot to add that The Sannin would be 24yrs old in 14bnb meaning they all should have known Tobirama yet they didn't even know who Oro was in P1 when he summoned them, and that on BOTH instances of reincarnation Tobirama was young looking so he was under 50yrs old when he died. If Tobirama was to be around Izunas age or older he would have been 60yrs+ old in 14bnb and he definitely did not look 60. I think that it's safe to assume that DB4 had an error there.. QuakingStar (talk) 16:49, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

Do you think Kagami died during the fight against the Kinkaku Squad? Because from what I know, the ages of the minor characters are from when they first appeared... Also, while digging through the manga for more dates, I noticed that in chapter 500, Kushina said that her Jinchuriki-fication was only known to the Third Hokage and his two sidekicks, only three people. However, upon checking the raw, it turned out that Kushina actually said that not even the three ninja did know about it. I don't know if the VIZ translation made the same mistake, but going from that, I was able to fix the timeline around that time a little. Then I noticed that Yahiko's birthday and the Sannin becoming Sannin doesn't fit... Yahiko must've been ~2 years old when that happened... fcking sigh, man ._. • Seelentau 愛 議 12:30, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

See, you're so good that you find these things even if afterwards. I try to help as best as I can. The only problem that really persists is what we have to pinpoint as errors from the DB's and even from the manga. So far you're actually doing really good. I'll continue to help the best I can. As far as Kagami's death, no only Tobirama went off to fight the Kinkaku squad, his teams fled from the area apparently when he went to confront the Kinkaku Squad. I think Kagami died shortly afterwards though probably in another battle.. Danzo hinted at Kagami sacrificing himself to save Danzo calling Kagami his close friend and someone who saved him many times with his Sharingan. But I can't remember if that was an anime only comment or not. QuakingStar (talk) 12:40, March 31, 2016 (UTC)
 * But Torifu's name became famous for fighting the Kinkaku Squad as well... • Seelentau 愛 議 13:15, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

Damn.. it sounds like after Tobirama died the remainder of Kinkaku Squad went after the group and managed to kill Kagami and possibly injure Torifu?? Torifu was present at the Nine Tails Attack standing next to Hiruzen when they prepared to fight it out of the village so we know he didn't die at that battle. QuakingStar (talk) 13:18, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

ATTENTION UltimateSupreme ATTENTION SuperSaiyaMan kid
Are you serious right now?? Are you really trying to say this 8 gates kid is me?? Just because you haven't realized how irritating you are and can't fathom that I'm not the only one who can't stand you? You can check the I.P.s Ultimate, you will find that is NOT me. I am busy playing video games with my son and have my laptop open in order to watch my page and the changes page waiting for Seelentau's next response. I don't have the time or patience to make a sock account, just to go back and forth with you Saiyaman. You are the last thing in the universe I want to acknowledge exists and wouldn't waste another minute of my life talking to you if not for these accusations of yours. QuakingStar (talk) 00:59, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * ...if you're busy playing video games, why do you even know the little update I gave UltimateSupreme? He was typing exactly like you do, acting exactly like you do, and was insulting everyone who disagreed with him.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 03:10, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm missing something, but your blocked. Yeah, the sysops let you continue to edit your talkpage, but really that's only if you are questioning why you are blocked, not to continue talking to members of the wiki while being blocked. You were blocked for a reason: you should be continuing these discussions when your block has expired. --Sajuuk 14:42, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

You need help SuperSaiyaMan, Seriously. Also if they are not complaining then it's none of your business Sajuuk, and butt out of my business. Ultimate will check the I.P.s and find out that is not me. Btw Ultimate, it is also against the rules to accuse others of being sock puppets isn't it?? and when I come back I want to get you in personal chat Ultimate, I have some information about certain users here you would love to hear concerning this wikia. QuakingStar (talk) 15:14, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * You are fully obliged to defend yourself (and you're right, accusing someone of being a sock is just plain impolite if anything...), but you shouldn't harass or intimidate other users... :)--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 16:04, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * QuakingStar, if its not you, its not you. I just noticed the similarities and decided to warn a syop, that's allowed. If its not you, I apologize, but you have to admit you and 8Gates were sharing a lot of similar traits. And I thought you said you were done with the site. You even said so and you deactivated your account. So...why are you throwing a fit and insulting me and SuperSajuuk? You said you were done with the wiki, so why do you even care?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 06:12, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

I asked the staff to run a CheckUser and according to them, "The two share no account details and edit on static and very different IPs". So, 8Gates is not a sock of QuakingStar.--~Ultimate Supreme  06:55, April 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. I'm sorry QuakingStar.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:02, April 3, 2016 (UTC)