Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-27660682-20160128215222/@comment-734582-20160129094332

Legendary Super Saiya-Jin 4 wrote: It should also be noted that the Databooks are not always correct, as the second databook stated that the Amaterasu's flames are as hot as the Sun. The temperature of the sun ranges from anywhere between 6000 and several million degrees. An acetylene blowtorch reaches (core) temperatures of up to 20 000 degrees. Don't look too much into comparisons like this, or things like "as strong as steel" as steel can be more than ten times stronger than itself, since steel is an alloy and depending on how you pick your parameters, it's either weaksauce or godlike.

MlGshinobi wrote: There is a lot to go on. Read through the post. Where am i grasping at straws? I'm a big proponent of the idea that Hiruzen's claim of power is true. But i also spent a lot of time thinking about it (boring train rides) and i don't think there is enough convincing evidence. Most of it is just people talking about Hiruzen, and what little we see of him is in old age. Even as an Edo Tensei he's in his weak form.

We don't know what Prime Hiruzen is supposed to be, because we never saw it.