Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-27233105-20160130092635/@comment-142748-20160213210954

QuakingStar wrote: Yet Kakashi and Obito didn't know what FTG was or how it worked in Kakashi Gaiden. Kakashi didn't even know what the FTG Kunai was, he only assumed it was a gift alone from Minato, then Minato had to explain to him what it was. You're exaggerating SuperSaiyaMan, stop exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating things, QuakingStar. Kakashi didn't know Minato had tagged his kunai. Kakashi and Obito both knew of the technique, just not how it worked.

Rachin123 wrote: @Saiyan

1. Yet you didn't answer how Rin who is at best average speed maybe, sees her teacher move faster than she moves, sees him and mistakes his speed to FTG. Again her reference is not a good one.

2. So Minato barely avoids A's "fastest attack" but can react fast against apparent faster shinobi with no problem. Makes no sense does it?

3. I don't want Minato's fast reputation to revolve around the FTG, that's just how it appears. And again if Minato was so fast he wouldn't need to stoop to using the FTG as often as he does. What don't you get about that. Databook hype. What made him so fast was the FTG. Also, the FTG is not speed. Speed requires continous movement. Teleportation is placement from placement. 1. Rin should have some inkling. She's not an expert, but it gives a basis.

2. Minato didn't 'barely react', he reacted just fine and dodged A's Lightning Straight with ease. First time it happened he was a little surprised by reacted just fine...second time he does it without even turning his back on A (then threatening B). Minato consistently reacted to the god tiers too so you can't say that its an outlier.

3. ...except you kind of do. Its a cheap out argument. Minato was said to be the fastest in history regardless, Rachin123. His Body Flicker was fast enough to cross an entire village before Kurama can complete a Tailed Beast Ball. That's INSANELY fast. And the whole 'well if he's that fast he wouldn't need FTG' doesn't work. Lets look at another famous anime teleporter: Goku. He both is amazingly fast with movement speed and has Shunkan Ido, and uses both. Its the same with Minato.