Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20170619154549/@comment-5085906-20170621152315

QuakingStar wrote: You have literally no proof he couldn't see or react to Minato.. the only problem will be FTG which is not speed, but teleportation. You all keep making shit up about Itachi, adding limits and weaknesses you have no proof for at all. Itachi is faster than Sasuke who is faster than Obito and Madara, Minato was only BARELY faster than Obito when he was 14. Stop wanking the fuck out of him already. I'm sorry - Sasuke's faster than Madara and Obito how exactly? Sure, current Sasuke's extremely fast, but he was nowhere near this speed when he fought Itachi.

As for adding limits and weaknesses to Itachi, I'm not saying Itachi's not strong. He probably still remains in the top ten. But as far as feats go, Minato has displayed far more feats than Itachi, feats that have actually been organically incorporated into the plot unlike Itachi's Izanami which was pure fanservice. "Oh, but Grave-senpai, he took down Nagato who had the Rinnegan!", he did mindless Nagato while being helped by the two strongest Jinchuuriki. We've seen him fight against Sasuke, but whatever happened in that fight remains unclear as we're still unsure what part of that battle was Itachi hesitating and what part of it was his illness so we're gonna discard it. And as I said earlier, his fight against Kabuto was pure fanservice (and either way, as someone pointed out, Izanami wouldn't work on Minato) In short, we've never seen Itachi take on a Kage-level shinobi like Minato.

Minato had only two episodes to make an impression, and he made Tobi his bitch all the while back and forthing between saving his wife and stopping the Nine Tails' carnage. Yeah, Tobi was a 14 years old kid...with Hashirama's cells and a broken Mangekyou ability which had a very limited window of opportunity. And where did you gather that Minato was barely faster than Obito? Just because Obito ALMOST got the drop on him once, while Minato had just warped away a Tailed Beast ball? When Ay powered up against Sasuke during the Kage Summit, Shee commented that Ay's reflexes had been enhanced to be on par with Konoha's yellow flash. Yeah - Ay needed a powerup to catch up to Minato's natural reflexes, so his speed wasn't only thanks to FTG. More importantly, why are you even mentioning age like it matters? Your beloved Itachi himself was a teenager when he murdered his clan while Naruto and Sasuke were fighting the likes of Danzo and Pain at the age of 16. Age does not equal skill in Naruto. And Minato is skilled to the point where even Kishimoto had to nerf him during the Fourth War because he would be too useful.

Historically speaking, if Tobirama could take down Izuna who was said to be on par with MS Madara, then Minato who, by Tobirama's own admission, is faster than him, can take down Itachi. I'm not saying it's gonna be easy, probably mid-to-high difficulty, but he will do it in the end. He at least knows the basics of a sharingan so he knows not to look at Itachi