Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-34656247-20190126174859

JamesSenpai wrote: Did you not seriously say "Killer Bee couldn't break basic genjutsu" which I replied with "Do you have a direct quote or a case from Kishimoto that says/or shows Bee is still clueless when it comes too Genjutsu?" which you replied with "What makes you think he'll devise a genjutsu counter measure" Hmm, looks clear as day we're talking about Bee being able to break Genjutsu in general. I mentioned that he couldn't break basic genjutsu twice in the series, then i brought in tsukuyomi as a little comparison of power. Let me turn the table a little..where is your proof that Bee improved in genjutsu? you don't have one i know that much, so guess what, naturally we would work with the what we have presently and not hypothesis to your extent. We will work with the current bee's stats that is provided to us, he can't break genjutsu on his own and that's that. Even if he did create a genjutsu counter measure in the future for gods know why...i mean i have a tailed for that can literally break me out of them, what makes you think that it'll help him to get out of tsukuyomi? he hasn't even seen how to works to devise against it's mechanics. I sense something off here.

Again, concurrently means at that time. Which means only Elite Uchiha up to chapter 244 could break Tsukuyomi. Anyone introduced or improved after that chapter is fair game since the 2nd Databook only covers up to chapter 244. So I don't need proof. Elaborate more, i don't quite get what you're getting at. By saying Anyone introduced or improved after that chapter is fair game are you referring to non uchiha's? if so then you're obviously contradicting the most spammed statement on this thread no matter if it stated that only skilled uchiha's can bypass it, and also you're contradicting a manga statement made by the character.....well providing if that's what you're saying.

Don't play innocent. You clearly said I never mentioned at that time, that i kept saying that the elite sharingan wielders can break it, and only that. I clearly proved you were lying by showing you i not only said at that time, but you quoted me in saying it 3 days prior. Nice try. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

That's very true. It can mean that. You should take that up with War. But i could care less who is right or wrong. My only point is Tsukuyomi is not unbreakable. I couldn't give a shit if Bee can break it or not. If me not saying he can't or can bothers you, oh well. Get over it. The point of this post is to prove that tsukuyomi can't be broken when used at it's fullest..so far it's usage against Izumi is the best definition of fullest as Itachi intended to kill at that time, on other cases it was no so, as Kakashi even proved it, and well he would'nt want to kill neither versions of Sasuke who were trapped in it. So which Uchiha, or which human in the narutoverse has a nerve transmission speed that rivals 1 nano second? even the speed of light when covering distance seems slow in that realm of time. Surely for Itachi to use Genjutsu reverse on Kurenai he must need chakra to execute the command, similarly for Uchiha's to break tsukuyomi they must have consciousness at full in order to release chakra to break the genjutsu..which is impossible in this case. With that aside it's even worst for non sharingan users, say Sakura for example, or better yet let's use Killer Bee :) . For a non sharingan user to break genjutsu they have to weave a hand seal....and well i don't think i need to say more here. They are done for 100% guaranteed.

I like how you're (trying poorly) to come at me with funk when it was Brain who brought it up and left the details out and i was the one showing what he left out. Nice try. But it ain't working. Learn how to read and know what you're talking about before you butt in. Brain clearly said the Japanese coloured version of the manga has Asuma saying "as soon as itachi finished speaking Kakashi dropped"..and it has Kakashi saying that that it was only a "moment" that passed (focus on words with quotation marks).... I clearly show what Asuma said and said this shows us everything we need to know, proving him wrong. He clearly said Kakashi said moment. Why the hell do I need to post what Kakashi said if Brain already said he said moment? Did I ever deny Kakashi said moment? Did I argue that he didn't say moment? So exactly what is convenient about posting an image of something someone already said happened? Get over yourself, lol. I'm just gonna ignore all statements made by you which proves that you're full of yourself. Seems like you're the one who needs reading lessons, because it was I who made the statement about the coloured manga and not @BrainBrand, canyways nvm that now.

I could continue arguing, but i already won. My argument is that it does not happen instantly. All you're doing is saying I'm right. So no point. Except your definition of instant is 0.00000 seconds, which is not even possible to comprehend, time loses it logic there😂...instant can surely refer to without delay or immediately...a nano seconds laughs at those two terms.