Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20160126181655/@comment-27660682-20160320045427

@Baku, except the raikage didn't keep up with minato, it was bee who saved him. The raikage blitzed minato purely out of ego, minato casually let the raikage close the distance, and nearly punished the raikage for that poor decision. That fight waa a perfect example of the flaws of blitzing since blitz ing speed=/= striking speed. Minato was just skirmishing with them it was never a fight to the death. The raikages arent killing any high level ninja with one blitz whether they are slower or faster, this isn't just about itachi like you think. In fact, you can't even reference me one shinobi with a name who the raikages killed with a blitz right off the back. The raikages have only blitzed fodder successfully, and fodder are irrelevant. You think that itachi, or anyone for that matter, can't weave a single hand sign when it takes a second for the raikage to even activate his raiton armor? It only takes a few hand signs for a substitution jutsu, crow substitution jutsu, a  shadow clone jutsu,  all the more easier with itachi's absurd jutsu speed. Mr. Rubber, who is much slower than the raikage successfully countered his blitz. Even the slower killer bee touched the supposedly untouchable v2 raikage. If you can't beat your opponent in speed, then simply dodging is out of the question but don't act like there arent a TON of other options for dealing with a blitz

Saying the raikage won't be disoriented after charging at sonic speed into a big explosion into it is pure bias. It won't damage him but he will be disoriented and need to regain his bearinngs. I have said time and time again how smart minato and naruto are, so I don't see that's relevant. The raikage dodged rasenshuriken because he SAW it coming. And even then, using careful misdirection naruto landed his attack on the supposed ly untouchable raikage. Itachi's fighting style involves overlaying multiple sneak attacks at once, just watch his fight with kakashi in part one. The third raikage is average intelligence because he was only known for his spear and shield. You guys can claim he has " kage level intelligence"all you want, he has zero intelligence hype and feats, and there is more than enough evidence that itachi is smarter and wiser. The raikage fought those 10, 000 shinobi and gyuki purely using brawns. Then look at itachi vs kisame, he used crow substitution to dodge kisame's shark droplets,  then after reforming he clashed his katon with kisame's suiton creating mist but itachi used his sharingan prowess to tag kisame's shadow in the mist to then gain the upper hand, and also had his crow observe kisame's location to then counter kisame's bunshin feint. So like I said, let the third raikage use his sonic blitz right into an explosion, become disoriented,  itachi isnt disoriented and has his crow summon plus shadow tracking  to detect raikage's location with more ease. If the raikage sees itachi's GG jutsu coming, he will be able to dodge, but that's if he does. All that speed doesn't mean a thing if you don't see the attack coming. Referencing sasuke is pointless because he didn't even make one attempt to trick the raikage,  he let the raikage see amaterasu coming, and then used a poor defense once raikage closed the distance. If he was smarter, he would have used a smoke bomb then step out side of susanoo. The hotheaded, reckless raikage knocks down susanoo,  doesn't know where sasuke is, and by that time he gets an amaterasu to the head. Unlike sasuke, itachi will be putting his intelligence to good use. So now that I have said that let's recap once again, the raikage isn't untouchable as  he and his son have been touched by slower opponents, the raikage is a close range fighter so that makes him have a higher chance if getting caught in genjustu,  there is no evidence of how he would fair against itachi's lower tier genjustu considering his son was one shotted by madara's regular sharingan genjustu,  who is not as good a specialist as itachi, and that genjustu deactivated his raiton armor iirrc, itachi isn't standing idoly while the raikage attempts to stall out susanoo,  and the third's armor is irrevelant because itachi has 2-3 jutsu that one shot and itachi is smarter. The raikage does have a decent chance to win but let's stop with the myths. His speed, strength and durability as well as stamina are all very impressive,  but itachi has answers for everything,  the only real problem is speed but there are counter measures for that.

No one is overrating prime itachi, his stamina is still medicore, tell me something I don't already know. But using stamina feats from a sick, blind, holding back itachi who already sapped 30 percent of his chakra on his GG genjustu that only sasuke and few others could break, and then spamming amaterasu across the battle field on purpose to further drain his stamina on purpose is very illogical. His susanoo time will obviously be better.

@Ninja of War, I'm free to dismiss the argument about itachi not being able to outpace a shuriken on the grounds that even black zetsu said that should have been a piece of cake for itachi, and that we are talking about prime itach,  not sick itachi. Itachi cant dodge a lighting technique? Oh so dodging sasukes chidori in part one must have been a miracle. He couldn't dodge kirin because no can, it's actual lighting which hits the ground in a fraction of a second, even black zetsu says this. I'm not addresing the smoke bomb argument, because by that logic no ninja should use smoke bombs since it obscures the vision of anyone who lacks a byakugan, so I guess sharingan kakashi was hindered by the smoke bomb he almost killed pain with too. Evidence the third raikage has more battle experience? Battle experience=/= wisdom, and no he isn't wiser than itachi who actually has wisdom feats, unlike the raikage. Evidence the raiton armor is sturdier than susanoo? The rasenshuriken he tanked left him without armor and incapacitated for a brief moment, and for all we know he recovered quickly because of edo tensei and also rasenshuriken messes up the chakra network. The only way to cure that is edo tensi, the raikage's armor is durable and he has high pain tolerance but he is still flesh and blood. Without edo tensi he would be paralyzed like kakazu was.Just as he was about to be sealed he then got back up. His one finger nukite was more effective because of the energy being concentrated instead of being distributed across his armor. I highly doubt it's gonna completely break through armored susanoo.