User talk:TheUltimate3

I've got a bit of a big decision to make, so I could use your opinion at Forum:Attribution or Imports?. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Aug 28, 2007 @ 01:40 (UTC)

Sorry, I was working on it, but it doesn't look very favorable. The Bleach (manga) article alone has a few thousand revisions to it. It doesn't look like a bot exporting 100 at a time is as good of an idea as I planned.

As for here... T_T The infobox on Naruto Uzumaki was supposed to be a experiment with it... It's not complete yet, there are one or two more sub boxes which need to be completed before the infoboxes are ready to be used on all the character pages. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 3, 2007 @ 23:49 (UTC)

RE: Well thats an interesting change.
^_^ Yup... well, His real name is Madara, Tobi is just a nickname used to hide his identity. So it seams pretty sane to use real names on articles. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 6, 2007 @ 15:12 (UTC)

Fair use tagging
TheUltimate3, you can't use this website as a source for fair use tagging. You either need a url of where it came from or what episode/series it is snapshotted from. Also, when you tag for fair use remember to include a fair use license inside of a == Licensing == section. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Sep 18, 2007 @ 10:48 (UTC)

Re-doing Akatsuki
Most of the Akatsuki member articles were not done correctly. Not only that but the Akatsuki page itself had some issues itself. Individual members were either copied from Wikipedia without attribution, attributed but copied strait from the article, or were complete originals. The proper way to copy things in a case like this, is to copy the whole original article, then split the sections into individual articles, but that was not done. But since work has been done on the articles here I'm using the move and merge technique instead of just replacing the pages. I'm moving Akatsuki member's pages to a /original subpage of theirs, moving the section out into the article, and then formatting that one and using to note that the subpage should be merged into the article. ^_^ Oh ya, I'm finally getting around to creating the last bit of Infoboxe sub boxes we need before we can add infoboxes to character articles. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 1, 2007 @ 02:13 (UTC)
 * I was considering adding a standards page for that later. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 1, 2007 @ 02:20 (UTC)

Help with images
Hey TheUltimate3, since you're the most active contributor to the wiki, you mind helping with something?

Could you look over User:Dantman/Images for deletion and find sources and tag the ones that you can. Cause I'll have to delete every image that a source can't be found for. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 6, 2007 @ 22:36 (UTC)
 * Yup, that would help... Though, you don't need to edit them as long as you add the rationale in when you upload it. Just paste the text at into the summary box, and select Fair use -> Character from the Licenses dropdown box. The standards I made for the format of the image pages were designed so that you could do exactly that without the need to go and edit the image page after uploading. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion  Oct 7, 2007 @ 07:37 (UTC)

Jutsus
Wait, you mean he's copying from leafninja.com? You know, he's doing something pretty bad. Those are not GFDL licensed, he can't C&P from there, it's illegal because they were the ones who did the writing and therefore they hold the copyright. You can write your own info, and you can cite them for your info, but you can't copy and paste the text that's a copyvio. This is a different case, it's not that it's just annoying you, but I'm probably going to half to delete every single Jutsu article he made. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 8, 2007 @ 23:23 (UTC)
 * No, the fact that they are copyvios are why I'm probably going to half to delete them all. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 9, 2007 @ 01:16 (UTC)
 * No, I'll probably go through his contributions and delete every Jutsu article he created because those are the ones with the copyvio for stuff from Leafninja.com, as for the GFDL Violations that's going to be discussed in the forum article. The good ones we've worked on will probably be moved to /original subpages and the work we did will be moved to the properly done ones. Nope, GFDL requires attribution, and that only works on text that is licensed under the GFDL (ie: something from Wikipedia). If something is PD (Public Domain), or some other licenses like CC-BY (But not CC-BY-SA) allow you to relicense the derivative works which in the case of CC-BY means we could copy the work, attribute it and put it under our GFDL license. But things which are not explicitly licensed in some way are considered to be copyrighted to the author. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion  Oct 9, 2007 @ 01:54 (UTC)

Undo vs. Revert and Rollback
TheUltimate3, I notice a lot of vandalism or other types of reverts from you. T_T unfortunately you miss one fact. An undo only reverts a single revision. If a user has made multiple edits, then the undo button does not revert all of the edits they made. You need to actually pick out a revision to revert to instead of using the undo button.

So, ^_^ I gave you a little tool. You've got rollback rights. So now you can use the rollback button. It appears on the latest revision inside of a diff, and also on contributions pages when the user's edit was the most recent one. The tool doesn't let you make a comment, but it is much faster, and it also makes sure to revert all the recent edits they made. So if someone edited a page 3 times, the rollback would remove all 3 of those revisions. Though just don't misunderstand what the tool does it only reverts the most recent edits by the most recent editor. So if someone edits once, then another person edits, then the first person edits 2 more times. Then the rollback tool only reverts those 2 recent edits, not the one the person made before the other person edited. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 28, 2007 @ 08:43 (UTC)

Fair use rationale
I should just make a note about the rationale template. The resolution parameter is different than the one on Wikipedia. It says Resolution not Low Resolution, Wikipedia's template works with yes but the input here in a case like that should actually be Low. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 29, 2007 @ 16:13 (UTC)

Sysop
Yup, sounds good... You're the most active and currently knowledgable user on the wiki. Sysop would be ok. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Oct 31, 2007 @ 17:50 (UTC)

List of Konoha Ninja page
Hey, I have something to talk to you about. Yeah, I did the List of Konoha ninja page not too long ago. I alphabetized them by family name, then first name (ex. Nara, Shikamaru). You just went and removed the naming format that I done to organize the names. Can you ask why it is the way it is for something like this before making the mistake again? I'm watching pages that I deem important to monitor. --Dubtiger 16:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * [RE:]Okay. I was tired when I was doing that page, so it slipped that I put Maito Gai instead of the English's translated Might Guy. --Dubtiger 00:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Images
Meh... I'm just grabbing some images. I won't do it for to long. Though, I could use a link to the page that has information on the Jutsu that Tsunade used in 95+96 to heal herself at the cost of part of her lifespan. I got an image but can't remember the name. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 24, 2007 @ 17:28 (UTC)


 * ^_^ We used the same name. Can you edit Image:Eight Gates.jpg to use the Fair use stuff you wrote. I'll upload the Lee image to another filename. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 24, 2007 @ 17:31 (UTC)

Yup, but Naruto-Kun doesn't own the copyrights for the images either. Either way we're still fair using the creators of the anime, and sourcing whichever site. I'm just going through Naruto-Kun right now and picking out some that catch my eye as useful on the wiki. We can hunt down stuff on leafninja and see if there's anything that would work better than one from Naruto-Kun. Truth is, I'd rather get some snapshots from VLC than use either of the sites, but I don't have many naruto episodes on my computer. I delete them to keep space. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Nov 24, 2007 @ 17:37 (UTC)


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Haku
The info on the Data Book is in, so I'm plenty sure that the other editors will agree that it is what should be gone by when editing an article. As for the discussion, if Believe it! Can come up with some helpful citations showing that the fangroups debating his gender is large, then we could consider a trivia note. Otherwise, if he continues spouting speculation, please just ignore it from now on. WP:CIVIL and WP:CON both state a few helpful things: This has frozen progress on improving the Haku article long enough. Without following the cited gender it is increasingly hard to edit the article. ^_^ It went from to  in one edit. You know what I find freaky though? ^_^ The revision I made by unprotecting the article is revision #12345... rofl... ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Dec 8, 2007 @ 11:50 (UTC)
 * Preventing incivility > Accepting that incivility and rudeness can't be entirely avoided in such a project, and not responding in kind.
 * Reducing the impact > Ignore incivility. Operate as if the offender does not exist. Set up a "wall" between the offender and the community.
 * Even a majority of a limited group of editors will almost never outweigh community consensus on a wider scale, as documented within policies. (Wider scale would mean in this case, Wikipedia community, and the consensus of all the other Narutopedia editors on using the Data Book as a source)


 * You can just ignore that discussion now TheUltimate3. If he goes around reverting peoples good faith edits to the article feel free to revert them back. If he's active at the same time as you and is reverting to much, feel free to use a temp block up to 4 hours with the summary "Blocking to prevent edit waring, feel free to contribute to the discussion after this block." ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Dec 9, 2007 @ 10:02 (UTC)

Land of Sound
Thanks for changing Otogakure to make what I made the land of sound page. I did what you said and now that's one archive down. Madara uchiha99 15:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Madara uchiha99

New users copying from other sites
Hey, TheUltimate3. I've noticed a lot of anon edits which look like the user copied from another site like NarutoFan or Leafninja. Could you help verify if, and if so, where they were copied from so I can delete them. Could you look over them? ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Jan 8, 2008 @ 03:57 (UTC)
 * Konoha Police Force
 * Forehead protector
 * Iwashi Tatami
 * Ninja Academy
 * Seven Mist Swordsmen
 * And this diff for Madara Uchiha.
 * Well, it has nothing to do with sites upgrading. It's just that, plain and simple its a copyvio unless they are GFDL and we attribute them, or they release it into the Public Domain, or everyone writing there gives us explicit permission to relicense their content under the GFDL. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Jan 9, 2008 @ 03:16 (UTC)

Hokage Links
The Hokages are much more notable than other characters we have full articles for. Remember that we're giving every character it's own page, no matter how notable. Grouping the Hokages will make it impossible to search for them because we can't put tags on the different hokage.

Also, even if we do put them inside of sections on the Hokage page, we could still make the pages like First Hokage redirects to that section. And linking to those pages would save the trouble of needing to change links if the hokage sections ever change place, not to mention that it's much nicer to use First Hokage inside of an article instead of First Hokage. We're a wiki dedicated to naruto, there's nothing wrong with at least giving everything a redirect and linking to that to make editing much easier. ~ NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk) current discussion Jan 16, 2008 @ 06:10 (UTC)