Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26894845-20151014004806/@comment-27085122-20151020042353

LoneNinja wrote: I started reading and thought this started off legit until i heard people thought Sasuke even had a chance against Eight Gates Gai. Do you even realize how fast Gai is moving while he is at the 8th Gate? Not only that but vs the technique Night Guy which distorts time itself? "Eighth Gate manifests into a red, flickering dragon-like aura. He then dashes forward at such an extreme speed that the space within the immediate vicinity of the technique is distorted, making it impossible for the target to defend against it." Kishi stated it is impossible to defend against. Now to just complete this off i am going to bring up the fact that the 8th gate gives 100x the normal power. I assume gai can at least move at what 30 mphs before losing his leg. 100 x 30 = 3000 miles per hour which is over 3k feet per second. Gai basically moves faster then sound which standard speed is 1100 feet per second. If a ten tailed rinnegan jubi Madara couldn't even move fast enough to defend himself against Gai what makes you think Sasuke even stands a chance who needed Naruto to help defeat Madara? Gaara had a perfect defense. Sasuke also attacked madara with some attacks that were so fast he couldn't defend them, does this not roughly put them in the same speed bracket? The only number you used that has any basis is the 100x power, there is no defined speed for gai anyways, all we can do is compare feats. Sasuke and gai both have madara blitz speed feats. And yes sasuke needed naruto to help beat madara, madara was only using taijutsu to fight gai for shiggles. If madara wanted he could've switched himself out with his limbo, if he had enough time to even sort of feel like 'This might be bad' (which he does). This to say, your numbers are unjustifiable, your ending justification is unreasonable. While it is cool he distorts space doesn't mean it's stronger or faster than anything that cant, anime/manga have never followed that sort of parallel, and neither does naruto. Like I mentioned, all we can compare are relative feats, both sasuke and gai have similar speed feats (Blitz madara), sasuke is stronger (overall, not physical strength), smarter, and can move instantaneously with his rinnegan. On the surface I can see how gai would appear to be the win, but he wouldn't