User talk:NinjaSheik

Hello NinjaSheik, greetings and welcome to the Narutopedia! Thanks for your edit to the Anko Mitarashi page.

We do hope that you will stay for a long time. Enjoy your stay as we work to become the best Naruto info site out there. BELIEVE IT!

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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- TheUltimate3 (Talk) 20:13, 3 July 2009

Policies
Both of you please read over our Talkpage Policy...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 04:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I apologize. I didn't know.--NinjaSheik (talk) 20:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Why did you delete the information I put on Anko? --RyunnKazan

Ryunn, quit it. Your edits are unnecessary.-- Ninja Sheik  02:18, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

My edits are UNNEcessary?! I have just as much right to add information that I know than you and the other people who keep deleting my work!--RyunnKazan

Yes, that's right. Don't edit anything unless you know things work around here. I've been here longer and so has the other users. They know what they're doing, you're not.-- Ninja Sheik  23:21, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Was there a problem
I noticed my trivia contribution on jiraiya was taken out, was there something wrong with it or did i forget to do something after making the contribution? Can you please tell me so i know what to do next time?Filipinoboy97 (talk) 17:52, July 13, 2010 (UTC)Filipinoboy97

It wasn't needed. It was such a lame trivia. There was no need to mention Master Jiraiya and Kakashi-sensei had blond-haired students. I mean, who cares?-- Ninja Sheik  17:55, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he's right. That was kind of bogus. and its the point of the trivia. It's supposed to be about something readers wouldn't notice on their own Amaterasu789 (talk) 17:16, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for agreeing with me, but..Uh, I'm a girl.-- Ninja Sheik  17:20, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete the information I put in Shikamaru's trivia?--RyunnKazan

Because you didn't provide any proof, at all.-- Ninja Sheik  22:28, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what were you arguing about with my brother (Madara2011) Izuna2011 (talk) 01:32, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Your brother? Your jerk of a brother vandalized my talkpage, my userpage, and keep going against the rules just because I undid his edit.-- Ninja Sheik  01:34, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well, in his defense...Yeah, he's a complete jerk.--Izuna2011 (talk) 02:47, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you.-- Ninja Sheik  02:49, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

??
Did you erase the quote I put for Shino's page? The quote's legit Episode 34 - 8:36 in (original japanese version of course). You better not be editing people's contributions based on the english dubbed version.

Trust me, I'm not. Shino's have enough quotes on his page. I'm sure someone else whould reverted the edit, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik  16:20, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding? "Shino's have enough quotes on his page." He has 5. I laughed out loud when I re-watched that episode and he said that, and thought "I should contribute that to his page." Not to mention it shows how much character growth has occurred between the two of them from that time and where Shippuden is now.

Bottom line, who gave you jurisdiction over this? Are personally responsible for making sure Shino only has 5 quotes on his page? No. It's actions like yours that makes contributing not fun and not worth the time. -Jedi Mc

Sheesh, calm down. It's just a stupid idiot. Don't make a deal out fo it.-- Ninja Sheik  20:45, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a pointless quote. I reverted it previously, and Jedi Mc still added it again. S im A nt 20:53, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

You're one of the admins on Narutopedia, correct? It's not to meet you. Thank you for...Um, agreeing with me.-- Ninja Sheik  20:55, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how it was a pointless quote, it show's the character growth and the contrast in Kiba and Shino's relationship from the start of the series to the end. Not to mention it was hilarious when he said it. -Jedi Mc

Dude, you do not want to start arguing with a admin. Just let it go.-- Ninja Sheik  21:04, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not an admin. But the general consensus on quotes is they deal with the characters personality. S im A nt 21:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Really, now? You're not a admin? Hmm...I always thought so. I seen you make many edits here everyday. You'd work hard, so I thought you were admin.-- Ninja Sheik  21:36, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nine-Tailed Fox deleting my post
Hi,

Why are you deleting my edits in the appearence section of the Nine-Tailed Fox? It's the one that says "Each one of it's nine tails is about twice the length of it's body, and each can be used as an extra limb, much like the tail of a monkey." What's so bad about that? makes perfect sense to me.

-Valiordruid

Everyone kept reverting, it's not just me. But relax, I'm tired of this little edit war. So you can have your way.-- Ninja Sheik  16:50, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

You contribute nothing to this site NinjaSheik, all you do is undo people's revisions. It's one thing to clean up someones grammar/spelling... but annoyingly undoing valid facts? Don't you get sick of people constantly tying here about how pissed off they are at you?

I work on another wiki, genius. I only lend a hand here undoing edits. And more importantly, why do you even care?-- Ninja Sheik  22:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

alright now you're starting to piss me off. Why are you doing this? That sentence is perfectly fine. It's completely pointless to keep undoing it. You're wasting my time and yours.

And you're pissing me off! It's not only me, it's also one of being undone by one the top editors here! Take it up with them, I'm tired trying to explain myself to you! If you fight for that edit, take on the discussion page!

And you're pissing me off! It's not only me, it's also one of being undone by one the top editors here! Take it up with them, I'm tired trying to explain myself to you! If you fight for that edit, take on the discussion page!-- Ninja Sheik  02:50, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Why ???
Ok dude, I just edited that page with legit stuff, I just watched that video like 7 times to make sure it wasn't my laptop or anything, And you just erased it man, I put everything it should have, I put up References, I put up correct Grammar, I put up the right stuff, I just want to know why you did it, If like it was because of a rule, I'm Sorry, But if it wasn't i want to know why you did it

Correct grammer? That wasn't correct grammer, and that's why I reverted it.-- Ninja Sheik  01:07, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh... Well if i correct the Grammar, are you still gonna Take it out?

No. And will you please sign your posts!?-- Ninja Sheik  01:11, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Sorry i'm kinda new to like the user talk page thingie UchihaSakudo (talk) 01:14, August 3, 2010 (UTC) UchihaSakudo

Uh-huh...Your grammer is pretty bad, you know?-- Ninja Sheik  01:17, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

?
Why did you delete my edit to Kabuto's page? --BeeBwakka (talk) 18:09, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Because, if I'm not mistaken, you're that same anonymous user that put the exact trivia that was reverted before by Simant. It other words, that trivia does not belong there. He knows what he's doing. I'm only following his lead.-- Ninja Sheik  18:50, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, so why doesn't it belong there? --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe because it's a useless trivia. If you want to know, ask Simant.-- Ninja Sheik  19:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'll go ask him too, but I think that that is solid trivia, and you should be making your own decisions based on your opinions, rather than other user's. Looking at this talk page, it seems that you've made a lot of people angry at you because of your constant deleting of contributions, and if you don't want to be hated on the wikia, I would recommend just letting these edits go, and if it really is worth deleting, someone else will delete it, or maybe it actually belongs here, and then maybe someone else will enjoy that fact, quote, etc. --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

You really believe I care if someone hates me or not? This is a wiki over the Internet. I don't know these people, and they don't know me. They can be angry at me all they want, but what could that accomplish? What, track me down and beat me up?

And I learned from experience to not argue with a higher rank user, because in the end it'll get you nowhere. Besides, it was a such a lame trivia. Who cares if Kabuto wore two different headbands in the series? So did Lord Orochimaru, a Leaf and a Sound. Just like Kabuto. The circumstances might've been different, but it's the same thing.-- Ninja Sheik  19:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * While I appreciate your desire to help, you probably shouldn't revert things if you don't have a reason why. If you thought it was useless trivia then that's fine (and you could have said so in your edit summary), but reverting just because someone else would is a bad idea. ~SnapperTo 19:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sir, but if I would've said that then I hardly think the outcome would've been different. People are always coming to me questioning why did this or that, and I'm sick of it. I don't owe them an explanation. I work many different wikis, the main being the KH-Wiki.

And I don't know what I'm about to say would help or anything, but when that trivia was put on for the first time, I left it alone. The next time I got an update for Kabuto's page was when Simant reverted that trivia. He's been on the Narutopedia longer than I have, so I trust he knows what he is doing. I was only following his lead.

But is that so wrong? I could've I done, reverted what he did so he could change it back? I learned better not to argue with a higher rank user, who's been on this wiki longer than I have. Because in the end, the admin or mods or whatever, wins.-- Ninja Sheik  19:38, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * They usually win, but that's mainly because they have more free time and/or are more stubborn. I am merely giving advice. If you think said advice would be more of an inconvenience than what you are currently doing, you may tell me where to stick my advice. ~SnapperTo 19:52, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

To NinjaSheik: Well thanks for the advice, and I do understand your reason now. Also thanks to Snapper2 for the quick reply to a first day member. Oh, and I just wanted to say, don't you sorta wanna be liked, and it does matter cause angry people = bad. But that's just my oppinion.

I guess I should've said that to begin with, huh? The thing is when I revert an edit, I don't think I have to explain anything to anyone. I thought you would find it obvious why that trivia isn't unqiue because of Lord Orochimaru wore two headbands, the same thing with Kabuto.

I have other things to do and besides I didn't want to get caught in a edit conflict if I ever take too long to explain my reasons.-- Ninja Sheik  19:38, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I never really counted Orochimaru, because he only wore his Konoha one before the start of the actual series, but I don't really care anymore. I haven't seen a lot of the show in much detail, so I guess I should probably check sources before I add content. Anyway, I'll be sure to make sure my edits are 100 % accurate next time. Thanks. --BeeBwakka (talk) 19:47, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

That'll help my headache, thanks. And like I said before, the circumstances might've been different, but it's actually the same thing in the end.-- Ninja Sheik  19:49, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

To Snapper2; I understand, sir. I'll try to explain my reasons more to avoid this kind of thing, even if I do hate explaining things to other people.-- Ninja Sheik  19:59, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted that edit because it was one of those, "as of yet, this person is only one to do something." which I'm pretty sure the community decided was bad trivia. Also, people have worn other villages forehead protectors, either by transformation technique or just plain killing and stealing. S im A nt 20:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Hey...I'm not in trouble, am I? It seems I've been drawing a lot of attention here.-- Ninja Sheik  20:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, btw orochimaru used 3 headbands, also the grass ninja he killed :P. S im A nt 20:27, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm going that as a "no". And I completely forgot about Shiore! Stupid me!-- Ninja Sheik  20:33, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I hope that that resolves everything. As for you, NinjaSheik, I hope you don't get into one of these stupid arguments again. I also hope that other people see this and learn from it. --BeeBwakka (talk) 21:55, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Doubt it, but thanks, anyway.-- Ninja Sheik  21:57, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

If you think about it, if everyone learned from the internet, we'd all be geniuses. I think I'll talk to you again sometime NinjaSheik. --BeeBwakka (talk) 22:00, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

That'd be nice, I suppose. It's not like we're enemies.-- Ninja Sheik  22:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't think that this would be the outcome when this thing started, I sorta expected us to hate each other at the end of it, but we're all okay with each other now, right? --BeeBwakka (talk) 22:16, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guessed that outcome, too. But yeah, we're cool.-- Ninja Sheik  22:17, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for a near pointless post, but didn't Orochimaru wear 3 headbands? I seem to remember him temporarily posing as a Sand ninja, during the preliminary's of the final Chunin Exam.ZPRN (talk) 22:05, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, that was one of his follower. He did posed as the Kazekage, though.-- Ninja Sheik  22:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Mail
I don't know really, I don't use the mail to get updates. But i would guess you could try turning the setting off, saving, and then turning it back on. S im A nt 21:43, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okaay...That's weird. I recieved mail for talkpage updating from your response. But I'll try your advice. Thanks.-- Ninja Sheik  21:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have noticed the same problem, I have sent an e-mail to central wiki. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 10:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Really!?! I'm glad I'm not the only one who having the same problem! I don't understand. It was working fine last week.-- Ninja Sheik  20:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. ^_^ I got the same e-mail, so I hope they fix it. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I hope so, too. I feel incomplete of my day if I don't get any Naruto updates. It's such a drag actually coming to the wikia to see all the updates myself on My Home.-- Ninja Sheik  15:28, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, no e-mails yet. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:20, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Man, I wish they hurry up. It's been 4 days, already. I also still find it weird that I only get mail from the Narutopedia when my talkpage updates.-- Ninja Sheik  20:13, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, no e-mails except for updates on my personal talk page. And I uses a more "official" e-mail account, a Telia address (Telia is the company that provides me with internet), so I don't know what could be wrong. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's so weird that we only get updates from our talkpage and nothing else. Maybe our problem isn't our account, but the Narutopedia. Can you contact the Central Wiki again and see what's up, Jacce? Can you try and talk to them?-- Ninja Sheik  16:29, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I also don't use email updates, so wouldn't know if there's been a change. The fact that you're still getting updates for your talk page suggests some wiki problem. Maybe empty your watchlist, wait a few hour for changes to take effect, and then add stuff back to your watchlist? ~SnapperTo 19:47, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

They told me they tried to reset my watchlist, but that didn't work. You think letting go of every page I followed and wait for a few hours might work?

And by the way, why is it so far that every user I go for advice doesn't follow mail updates?-- Ninja Sheik  19:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * It might work. Trying a new email also might work. That staff doesn't know what the problem is and can't fix it on their end doesn't give much hope to either solution.
 * Since I tend to look at every edit, for email updates to be effective I would need to add every page (article, talk, infobox, template, etc.) on the wiki to it. Just using special:recentchanges is far less troublesome. ~SnapperTo 20:05, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

All right. I'll give it a shot, but how can I empty my watchlist? I can't go to every page I followed and unfollowed it. That takes too much time.-- Ninja Sheik  20:08, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Special:Watchlist/raw. ~SnapperTo 20:11, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. And let's say I actually do this, how will I recover everything again?-- Ninja Sheik  20:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copy the contents to a word document, paste them back later? ~SnapperTo 20:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea! All right, I'm giving it a shot!-- Ninja Sheik  20:20, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to try that to. If it doesn't work, maybe Dantman knows something. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:41, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, good luck. Keep me updated.-- Ninja Sheik  15:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * No luck on my end. I have left a question on Dantman's talk page. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:41, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I see...But who's this Dantman person? How can he help us?-- Ninja Sheik  14:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * He is the founder of Narutopedia and our only bureaucrat. Besides, he seams to know quite much about templates and coding (the things Simant are doing). You find more info here. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 17:20, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

HE'S THE FOUNDER!?! WOW!

Then, you think he have the answers to our problem?-- Ninja Sheik  17:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

He has shown knowledge about wiki functions before, so I hope so. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

All right. Thank you.-- Ninja Sheik  19:56, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, nothing yet. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I see...All right, then.-- Ninja Sheik  20:37, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

^_^ I don't know about you, but suddenly I have started to get e-mail notes about new changes from Narutopedia again. Not from every page, but it was like that before the e-mails disappeared so... ^_^ Jacce | Talk | Contributions 14:47, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Omigod! Really!?! Are you sure, it's not just your talkpage anymore?!-- Ninja Sheik  16:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Completely. Now I just hope it keeps working. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:12, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

OH, MY GOD! Jacce-san, my works too! I'm actually getting mail from the Narutopedia! Thank you so much! I could kiss you! How is this even possible!?! Who fixed it?

I hope we don't have this problem again! Thank you very much for telling me!-- Ninja Sheik  16:19, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. ~_^ I don't how how it happen, the only new thing about wiki is the new look, but I don't see how it could have affected the e-mails. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:22, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm really glad it's working again. Hopefully, it won't happen again and I won't have to go in a frenzy! Thanks, Jacee-san, for letting me know. As a reward...Hmm, well, I can't really say I can give you anything of interest. But let me know, I am in your debt!-- Ninja Sheik  16:25, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

You could keep doing things like this. ~_^ Jacce | Talk | Contributions 16:30, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Keep working on the Narutopedia? You got it, boss!-- Ninja Sheik  16:32, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Account
Do you know how to close an account, because ShounenSuki told me i can only use one so i want to close the Shin-Yasutaro account. Shin-Yasutaro (talk) 18:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)Shin-Yasutaro

To get rid of a account, you have to ask a admin to delete it.-- Ninja Sheik  18:29, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Huh?
Is that true...Nagato is a member of the Uzumaki clan?

Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)kunoichi101Kunoichi101 (talk) 20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

YES!-- Ninja Sheik  20:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Admins
I usually report them to Jacce, there's a section in that admins's talk design for that, mostly used by me. Other admins include Snapper2, TheUltimate3, ShounenSuki and Dantman. Jacce is the one who usually blocks most reported vandals. Snapper also blocks quite a few when he catches them in the act. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thank you very much.-- Ninja Sheik  17:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Killer Bee Edit
Why edit out the trivia of Killer Bee obviously referencing Stan Hansen? I assume Japanese professional wrestling is not common knowledge among non-Japanese anime fans and thus the obvious homage to the Japanese viewer would be missed by most English-speaking fans.

12.44.226.37 (talk) 16:41, September 27, 2010 (UTC)Dynamic A

What does that have to do with the Naruto series? And do you have any proof of it?-- Ninja Sheik  21:26, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The fact that Killer be does a left-handed "Western Lariat" and the Texas Longhorn handsign along with yelling "WEEEE", means that some aspects of his character are in homage to the wrestler Stan Hansen, which certainly fits with the qualification and goals of a "trivia" section on a Wiki page devoted to that character, no? Hansen was a very popular gaijin (foreign-born) wrestler in Japan for years, and his Lariat move (that he named) and that hand signal are instantly recognizable to Japanese. Here's a youtube video that features Hansen, his hand gesture, and the "Lariat" technique for verification: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3JutcZ4eOI

Dynamic A (talk) 02:30, September 28, 2010 (UTC)Dynamic A

I'm not entirely sure that doesn't matter to the Naruto series, which is the main reason why I reverted. I mean, come on. Who really cares? Still, if you want it on so badly, I recommand talking about to top-rank users like User:Omnibender or User:Yatanogarasu.-- Ninja Sheik  02:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Who really cares what a character's attributes are based on? On a Wiki page ABOUT THAT CHARACTER? That argument sounds more than a bit specious my little poppet. Why list that his name and rapping are in reference to the Wutang Clan, then? Or even have trivia sections at all? Dynamic A (talk) 02:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)DA

Don't get so worked up. Just talk about it to one of the top-ranking users here.-- Ninja Sheik  02:50, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its not a matter of getting worked up, simply of wondering why you would go through and lop off a tidbit of trivia no more or less "trivial" than anything else in the section. It seems like reverting just to keep status quo rather than for any constructive reason. Dynamic A (talk) 02:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)DA

It just doesn't seem important to me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so somewhere else not agree to the trivia. Just pick it up on Killer Bee's discussion page if you want it so badly.-- Ninja Sheik  02:57, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Bold Heading
Not quite sure why that happens. Usually, bolding occurs when there's a transclusion (like a section summary being transcluded to another article), when there is the translation template (character articles, for example), or to add emphasis to something in the middle of the text, like Kushina's nicknames. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:55, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't mind the bold heading, but I don't see it as necessary either. I don't think there's a policy on when to do it, I just think it's something that ends up happening in certain situations. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:02, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see no real point in doing it. I don't think that most jutsu articles have the jutsu's name in the first sentence, so it would be odd to do it I think. As far as yes or no, I don't think they should be added to all articles. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:05, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Madara and Roshi
Hi, I was just curious what was happening with the Madara page today, it was blanked at one point and it keeps being re-edited by you and some other guy. What's happening?

Also, while I'm here I figured I'd ask why my addition to the trivia on Roshi page was deleted. I pointed out that he may be connected to Kurotsuchi as they share the same ability and that being the Tsuchikage's grand daughter it was likely. However it was taken down, but the note that she shares similar eyes with Han was left. What's up with that? I'm not trying to complain, I'm just curious to know how my justification is lacking in comparison to a similar note. -Hawkeye2701

Three words: Speculation. Not. Allow.-- Ninja Sheik  22:18, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

But doesn't that make the eye thing speculation as well? I mean sharing similar eyes and sharing the same type of ninjutsu (A bloodline nature no less) seem like the same sorta deal to me. If you're not sure, should I go to Omnibender or something? -Hawkeye2701

Just go to Omnibender. I'm really busy.-- Ninja Sheik  22:35, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered you, thank you for your time. -Hawkeye2701

It's all right.-- Ninja Sheik  22:39, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Kage
Sorry to bother you again, but you edited what was added to Unknown Kage about where he could possibly from. It isn't even speculation this time but an undeniable fact that he can't be a past Hokage. Should I not have put it in trivia or something? - Hawkeye2701

Speculation isn't allowed. Is that the rules? I reverted because it was speculation.-- Ninja Sheik  02:13, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Like I just said it isn't speculation. There is simply no possibility of the Unknown Kage being a Hokage. The Five Hokage to this point are well documented here and in the series, this Kage bares absolutely no similarity to any of them. - Hawkeye2701

Even if that's true, I don't think it shouldn't be allowed. It's like saying that Nagato's mother isn't part of the Uzumaki clan when it's obvious that she is because of her red hair, the trademark of the Uzumaki clan. It isn't safe to assume, and I'm sure the other users would feel the same way.

I don't handle these kind of problems well, but I hope you see my point. I would allow it, I suppose, but...You know how the wiki can be. It's really strict.-- Ninja Sheik  02:21, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't get it. There is a difference between speculation and common sense, I even went through the trouble of logically narrowing the field when I first made the article. But I'll respect that our views on this one differ and I won't edit that one again until confirmation of some sort is given. Thank you for your time. - Hawkeye2701

Yeah, okay.-- Ninja Sheik  16:25, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why
What did you find wrong with the thing I wrote on Yamato? -User:Filipinoboy97

It's already stated on the top of his page.-- Ninja Sheik  21:45, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Who Cares?
I notice you often ask "who cares" about whatever trivia, which is completely stupid. One could ask "who cares" of any trivia, be it that two people had blond students or that someone's attack is borrowed from a Japenese wrestler. I believe I'm correct when I say that trivia is information that doesn't have any particular value, but is for some interesting to note. To say "who cares", or that something is a "useless piece of trivia"...well, the first is easy enough to answer, a good percentage of Naruto fans care. And to say that something is "A useless piece of trivia", when, in fact, that's what trivia is(useless information) is completely redundant. Nothing against you personally, but it's annoying to try to share some trivial information, and the response is "Who cares?"ZPRN (talk) 23:02, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

If you have a problem with a piece of trvia and find yourself in a edit war, take it up on a dicussion page. And you think I'm harsh? Please, before I even started to talking to the users here, I was really scared of them since I saw how strict they were.-- Ninja Sheik  23:03, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is not a personal complaint, which is why I said I've nothing against you, except that you don't seem to realize the point of trivial information, which was the whole point of my post. So, way to go, you answered me without answering me. Something admins are rather adept at, as I understand it.(If you're an admin lol). I don't think you're harsh, but it IS pretty ignorant to say that a piece of trivia(Which, you'll remember, is essentially useless information) is useless lol. By the way, sorry if I sound like a jerk, but it's sometimes difficult to say what one believes without that drawback.ZPRN (talk) 23:12, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, I suppose. I deal with these problems all the tine on KH-Wiki. I won the title on "Best Vandal Fighter", and I usually have to waste my time arguing with anonymous users and such. This isn't really new to me.-- Ninja Sheik  23:17, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Right, because KH and Naruto aren't a waste of time at all.

But not the point. KH-Wiki?ZPRN (talk) 23:24, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Kingdom Hearts. I've worked there the most.-- Ninja Sheik  23:40, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

I know what KH stands for -.- Kingdom Hearts FTW!!ZPRN (talk) 00:07, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

What?-- Ninja Sheik  00:08, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

FTW = For the Win.ZPRN (talk) 00:22, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.-- Ninja Sheik  00:23, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why??? the trivia was true!!
How come you deleted my trivia that Killer Bee and Naruto didn't have ninja headbands? What was wrong with it? It was deleted right when I finished it!Amaterasu789 (talk) 17:20, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I kinda lost here? What are you talking about? As for the whole "didn't have ninja headbands" part, so? Ino doesn't have a headband either in Part II, despite being still loyal to the Leaf.-- Ninja Sheik  17:26, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

No. what I meant was that naruto and killer bee didn't have ninja alliance headbands. I know its cuz they r jincWuriki and stuff but still. o ya i know this is off topic but u remind me of Konan. Amaterasu789 (talk) 00:28, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

The Ninja Alliance Headbands? Ooh, that. Well, they're not the only ones, you know? Anko and her team doesn't have them, either.

And a remind you of Konan? Why?-- Ninja Sheik  00:30, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I forgot. And somehow, Konan comes to mind. It seems like you're one of the greatest staff people. Amaterasu789 (talk) 00:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Not really. I haven't been here very long compare to the others like Jacce-san, or Suki-senpai. I've been working on the KH-Wiki a lot, along with many others, so I kinda know what goes on a wiki.-- Ninja Sheik  00:55, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

oh it seems like you were here a long time ago. i've only been here for about 2 and a half months but i know a lot about naruto. but i think Deva 27 is mean he can get annoying Amaterasu789 (talk) 01:03, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I appear here every day, so I guess it would seem I've been here for a long time. As for Deva27, he does seem a little scary, but he's only trying to protect the wiki. So, I can't really blame him.-- Ninja Sheik  01:06, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that is true. I come on here almost everyday, and I'm 10 years old. SPiKeS Of FiRe 01:22, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Wait...You're ten years old? So, you're a little kid?-- Ninja Sheik  01:24, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Basically, yes, to you but I think I'm the smartest person in my school. I'm a 5th grader. SPiKeS Of FiRe 01:36, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's cute. I don't really see a lot of young users around here.-- Ninja Sheik  01:44, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Um...why was my thing on Madara Uchiha erased about how he got all those sharingan eyes? I know you're saying "everything is speculation" but I actually had a comment to back up what I was saying. You don't find it odd that hundreds of people are getting angry with you? Most of these people have decent arguments. Don't you think you should give others some space. It's like bullying.--.Z

Actually, those edits people made were wrong in a way, but still trivia edits being deleted is pretty bogus. Amaterasu789 (talk) 01:41, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

What he said. I don't remember you, but if you put a comment in the page, then that's why I reverted. Be professional about your edits, and if you have a reason to back your edit, put it in the Summary box.-- Ninja Sheik  01:44, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia is pretty open to the public...I don't think people should be allowed to erase Trivia. All trivia is on wikis is speculation in the first place. So the argument that all we type is "specualtion", is unfounded. I don't want to be disagreeable. I just want people to enjoy this wiki without others trying to discredit their work.--.Z

All along as the trivia is factual. Not all wikis function the same way. You're going to accept that. Not everyone can get away with something they want. And is is too much ask to put your signature after your post!?-- Ninja Sheik  01:47, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

You don't have speak harshly to get your point across. You'll just end up with a lot of people turned off at you. Try using a softer approach to your response and people will come to respect your opinion. I agree that people should not be allowed to type anything and everything. I just think that you might want to discuss it with others before making a judgment call. Does that sound unreasonable? --M.R 01:53, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with ya dude but still u hav to hav proper spelling and puncutation and stuff. im not bragging or anything but i always get 100% on my spelling tests and spelling won't be a problemAmaterasu789 (talk) 01:59, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to be harsh, or did I intend to offend you. Of course, if there is a disagreement rose up, then I'll be obilgated to discuss it with said person.-- Ninja Sheik  02:01, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Amaterasu789. Thanks, and I totally understand that. I try to be as correct in my spelling as possible. My computer tells me if I miss-spell something and my grammar is usually pretty good. What I typed was totally grammar appropriate. But still... you're right.--M.R 02:05, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Are we finished here? I hate getting caught in edit conflicts.-- Ninja Sheik  02:08, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Amaterasu789 was just trying to help me. But if you say you weren't trying to offend me than I'll believe you. It's just the way you remarked about the signature thing and by reading other peoples posts to you're said corrections that made me a bit...hahaha....well, whatever. --M.R 02:09, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah....we're done.--M.R 02:09, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, I know people get angry and stuff, but the reason this wiki is here is because Naruto fans will be able to read about things about Naruto they may or may not alredy know about and edit things. Everybody should be grateful that their edit was even posted at all(not in a mean way). That's all. Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:17, November 16, 2010 (UTC) signing out.

There is some truth is, but this wiki is also very important to many of the users here, who poured their time and hard work into it. It's like a baby that needs to be protected, you know.-- Ninja Sheik  02:23, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly. You need to check on it, like, all the time, or else the site wont be official and stuff. Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:29, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

So that's why you can't blame the other users for reverting the edits or being mean. They're just doing what they think is right for the wiki, that includes Deva27. Understand, Amaterasu?-- Ninja Sheik  02:37, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

I never really thought about it that way, but I see your point. No harsh feelings, right? Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:43, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Right.-- Ninja Sheik  02:45, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, case closed Amaterasu789 (talk) 02:50, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yay.-- Ninja Sheik  02:55, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Did you erase what i said about the sasuke retrieval team?--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:07, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Because it was untrue.-- Ninja Sheik  02:11, November 19, 2010 (UTC,

It was true Tsunade made Shikamaru put Naruto in his team--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:12, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's true that she requested that Shikamaru brings Naruto, but it was never said that Shikamaru didn't want Naruto to come.-- Ninja Sheik  02:23, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I clearly said even if he didn't want to.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:27, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

That was never stated.-- Ninja Sheik  02:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:31, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

When?-- Ninja Sheik  02:32, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't Tsunade decide who is on every team...? why does Naruto explicitly need to be mentioned? S im A nt 02:33, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

He's got a good point.-- Ninja Sheik  02:34, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he does, but Tsunade told Shikamaru that he can pick who is in the team and that Naruto had to be on the team.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:38, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Have? Tsunade did want Naruto on the team, that's true, but she didn't she used the word "recommanded" or something? It didn't really state that Tsunade told Shikamaru that he has to be on the team? We just collected as many Genin as he can get.

Besides, your edit said "Tsunade made Shikamaru put Naruto in his team even if he didn't want to", which as untrue because Shikamaru never express that he didn't want Naruto on his team.-- Ninja Sheik  02:42, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he did.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:46, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

WHEN? You never answer me from before. When did Shikamaru said that he didn't want Naruto on his team?-- Ninja Sheik  02:48, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

When Tsunade told him. He was annoyed that Naruto was on his team.--Rmt0225 (talk) 02:53, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

He was annoyed because Naruto was yelling at Shikamaru when he heard Sasuke left the village. He finds Naruto annoying, that's all. That didn't mean that he didn't want Naruto on the team.-- Ninja Sheik  02:54, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

WHY?
Why is it every time I do an edit you erase it?--Rmt0225 (talk) 23:56, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Because it shouldn't be there. Trust me, a lot of users before you attempted the same thing and it was always reverted.-- Ninja Sheik  23:57, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

(アマル, Amaru) Debut Movie 	Naruto Shippūden 2: Bonds Appears in 	Movie only Voice Actors Japanese 	Motoko Kumai Personal Gender 	Female Age 	15 Occupation 	Apprentice Doctor Affiliation 	Land of Fire It says Amaru is listed as female not a male search her and u will see ur wrong. Thank you, Sasukesgirl3161

I'm not stupid, I know she's a girl. I watched the movie. But Amaru poised as a boy, and then was later revealed to be a girl. It's stated right there in the summary.-- Ninja Sheik  01:34, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

K whatever I'm sorry I didn't read the rest of the plot and didn't know she was was pretending to be a he. K we make mistakes in life and we have to deal with them K so yes I kinda admit I was not thinking I had never seen the movie and only amvs on youtube.I saw that she was a girl and it said it was a he so I was thinking WHAT?So I fixed K I did not read the rest of the plot because I was focusing on was the part where the plot did not make sense you could have told me right off the bat why I was wrong.You didn't though so I kept going why is she changing it?When I thought I was right I was wrong but you could have just messaged me and told me to read the rest of the plot in a non-rude way.Again you didn't.This is what you said:

''Okay, listen here, I already gave you an explanation why I reverted the page. Yes, Amaru is a girl, I know. However, she was disguised as a boy for part of the movie until Naruto rescued her, so there. Read the summary, why dontcha?''

K to me that was rude and don't start calling me a cry baby because it is my opinion.You worded that in a very rude way.Please don't message me back because I don't wanna hear it.

When you said I already gave you an explanation why I reverted the page I NEVER got that first explanation.--Sasukesgirl3161

I wasn't trying to be rude. And you should also make sure you watch the rest of the movie before making edit. Could've save us a lot of time not arguing with each other. You were acting like a crybaby when you tried to erase the arguement on your page. And don't apologize to me first, apologize to Kunoichi101. She also tried to reason with you before I did. You owe her, too.-- Ninja Sheik  04:11, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Eraing talk edits
Lub, you shouldn't delete their talk page posts unless it's clear vandalism simply respond to person telling them that it's not a forum, sign your posts etc. Even if it's crazy conspiracy theories --Cerez365 (talk) 22:34, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay.-- Ninja Sheik  22:36, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ok listen I'm younger than you so what you said to me was rude to me K. You are probably in High School when you are your age that wouldn't seem rude but to how old I am if I said that to someone the way you worded it they would have thought that is rude.Expect boys..I said please don't message me back nicely but you messaged me so here. Don't message me again and read my second comment after that long paragraph why don'tcha?--Sasukesgirl3161

Sheesh, you really are just a child. Don't make such a big deal over it. It's done, and make sure you apologize to Kunoichi101 as well.-- Ninja Sheik  00:29, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

She was nice to me and said to me:

It doesn't make sense if you edit Amaru as a girl in the plot overview. <<<<(BY THE WAY I'M VERY SORRY kunoichi101)

At first I didn't get that because again I was just looking at the one part but once I read the whole plot overview I got what she meant you on the other hand said it in a different way.She said it very nicely.Again I'M VERY SORRY kunoichi101.--Sasukesgirl3161

We can we just drop it? I get it, you don't like me. Fine, whatever. I don't care. Just drop it and go.-- Ninja Sheik  00:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Help
Last time I checked, MangaHelpers had an active and helpful community of translators and scanlators. I'm sure you could find help there. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:12, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I already contacted them, but aren't they only open to offcial mangas, not doujinshis? I feel like I'm bothering them.-- Ninja Sheik  22:26, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Asking them can't hurt. If they seemed to be bothered, apologise and move on, but a simple cry for help shouldn't bother anyone. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:36, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I contact them from the button at the page, rather than going to one translator. I wanted to talk to the one who translate the Naruto manga all the time. The same one that MangaStream uses. But since I don't have an account, I couldn't. How long do you think it will take them to answer me back?-- Ninja Sheik  22:39, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I really can't tell. i have no idea how active those fora still are. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:43, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fora?-- Ninja Sheik  22:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, 'fora', the plural of 'forums'. Also, are you from the US or Canada? Because I totally forgot to wish you happy Thanksgiving even though you mentioned it. I'd be really sorry if you actually celebrate it. —ShounenSuki (talk 22:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

US. And thanks, Suki-senpai. I've been going on a wild goose chase all week, trying to find a way I get these doujinshis done. My head hurts. This has been such a drag for me, seriously.

By the way, I was hoping I could talk to you about Narutopedia Wiki buisness. I want to ask you something.-- Ninja Sheik  23:02, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Happy Thanksgiving then ^^ Have fun ehm... eating turkey? Any way, you are always free to ask me anything. I can't promise I can help you, but at least you can ask. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:09, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the things I wanted to ask you is if we should make a page or the Jonin Station and Amaguriama in the Leaf Village. I know you have the Naruto Offcial Databook, so you should probably know what I'm talking about.-- Ninja Sheik  23:20, November 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you think you can make nice articles on them, then by all means make them. —ShounenSuki (talk 23:39, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Any information I need I can get from the Anime Proiles and the Databook, but I never was good with description in the first place. But will the others approve of my actions?-- Ninja Sheik  23:41, November 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if you're not good at descriptions, that shouldn't stop you from making articles. No article is perfect from the very beginning. Your article might be read by someone who is good at writing descriptions, but who simply didn't know about the subject of the article or never thought about it. That's why we allow everyone to edit. Together, we can make amazing articles, even if we couldn't even come close to that quality on our own.
 * As for the approval, don't worry about it. If it's an article on something from the series that had no place on the wiki before, than who could disapprove of it? —ShounenSuki (talk 00:15, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well...If I was to do it, then the pages will probably need pictures. The Jonin Station first appears during the Chunin Exam, where Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai was talking. Amaguriama is where Asuma took his squad out to eat that one time before being summoned, and the same spot Jiraiya and Naruto went to when they first met.-- Ninja Sheik  00:21, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Deleting Missing-Nin Picture
Why did you remove the picture I put of Kisame and his scratched headband?? --Fmakck (talk) 23:48, November 25, 2010 (UTC)Famkck

I get what you're trying to do, but one picture is enough. for the missing-nin page.-- Ninja Sheik  23:49, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I guess it is a pretty small page and shouldn't be crowded by pictures, but it still was useful.--Fmakck (talk) 23:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)Fmakck

Not really.-- Ninja Sheik  00:01, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever, what's done is done. --Fmakck (talk) 00:32, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Fmakck

Yeah.-- Ninja Sheik  00:34, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, did delete my edit on the sharingan !?--Uchiha-madara07

Not only it didn't belong there, but it was was written extremely poor and it was not nescessary.-- Ninja Sheik  21:44, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Chidori is a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

Not it isn't. Other users before me clearly stated that Chidori is not kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  00:01, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Could you explain yourself.--99.243.213.131

Kinjutsu are Forbidden Jutsus, right? When did it ever say in the series that Chidori is a Kinjutsu? It's not a Kinjutsu. Sasuke could do at least two Chidoris in Part I and Kakashi-sensei could do at least five Chidoris in a day.-- Ninja Sheik  00:05, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's true, but the only reason why they could use it is because they possess the Sharingan. If they didn't have it, then minato stated that the technique would be useless. That's why the first time when Kakashi used it, Minato told him never too use it, because the risks are too great.--99.243.213.131

He told him not to use it because it was imcomplete, not because the risks were too great.-- Ninja Sheik  00:54, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean incomplete? If u check the chidori page, and look at the drawbacks u will see that it says that it was too dangerous, not incomplete. Also check the use and improvement section.--99.243.213.131

Sorry, I remembering something from what the manga said. But the point is, the thing is not a kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  01:00, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

But why not? If it isnt, then okay. I just want to know the reason.--99.243.213.131

Minato saying the technique is too risky doesn't make it a kinjutsu. So far, the only technique we ever saw be deemed a kinjutsu after its creation was Rasenshuriken, by Tsunade. All others were already introduced as kinjutsu. As Minato was a Kage at the time he said Kakashi shouldn't use the Chidori, like Tsunade did with Rasenshuriken, Chidori isn't, and shouldn't be considered a kinjutsu. Techniques can be dangerous without being kinjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:10, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

But if said that Kakashi cant use it, doesn't it make it a kinjutsu?--99.243.213.131

Minato told him that the technique was incomplete, which is the reason he shouldn't use it. Not because it was a kinjutsu. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:18, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ha! So it was incomplete! I was right! Whew, that's good. For a minute there I was doubting my Naruto knowledge.-- Ninja Sheik  01:37, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

By incomplete, they were referring to the fact that he didn't possess the Sharingan. After gaining it, the technique was seen as complete cuz the drawbacks were eliminated.

Think of this. the reasenshuriken was first a danger to naruto. but after sage mode he managed to fix it so that the drawback is eliminated, therefore is now complete. just like the chidori. both of them needed a special skill of some kind to be able to complete. but even then rasen shuriken is still considered a kinjutsu. this is cuz not everyone could achieve sage mode, and as a result there version, if possible would only be the "incomplete one". just like how not everyone has the sharingan, and their chidori would be considered "incomplete", or a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

It wasn't because they didn't posses the Sharigan that it was incomplete. It was becuase even though Kakashi have the destructive power to hone it, but he didn't have the speed to back it up. "Minato told Kakashi to never again use the Chidori, because of its inherent flaw: Kakashi's eyes were not fast enough to see his opponent's counterattack, putting him in great danger." This was directly taken out from the summary of the Kakashi Gaiden's page.-- Ninja Sheik  02:49, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

That is what I'm saying. Kakashi's eyes weren't fast enough to see the movements. As a result, the techniques accuracy was extremely low, as the person could dodge and attack the user. making it lethal for the user. Only after getting the sharingan was he capable of eliminating these drawbacks, and therefore "completing" the technique. This is the same thing that happened to rasenshuriken issue.--99.243.213.131

Fine, he completed it! We know that, but that does not mean Chidori is a Kinjutsu!-- Ninja Sheik  03:16, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

wut im tryin to say is that it is not about completion. cuz completion is basically just fixing a technique to make it flawless. the basic technique itself is dangerous if anyone without a sharingan uses it. just like if anyone that cant preform sage mode used rasenshuriken, and someone with not a lot of chakra used multi shadow clone jutsu.

Putting that factor with Minato saying that he cant use it make it a kinjutsu.--99.243.213.131

All right, that does it! I'm tired of this. I'm going to tell you something I should've told you in the first place: Chidori was never confirmed/classified to be Kinjutsu according to the many Anime Proiles, databooks and fanbooks in Naruto.-- Ninja Sheik  03:39, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why didn't you just put that earlier?--99.243.213.131

Because I didn't expect this to carry out so long! I wanted to explain the situation to you without bringing up the databooks and everything else. This whole "Chidoru is a Kinjutsu thing or not" didn't need to be bring up with the databooks. It's not Kinjutsu, it never was! Can we please drop this!? I'm like freakin' pissed off since I got to explain myself to everything. You should've asked Suki-senpai, she's the one that reverted your edit and she even got a reason. Why come to me?-- Ninja Sheik  03:58, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, fine. My bad. Your name was the one I saw, that's all.--99.243.213.131

Thank you! God...I'm so tired.-- Ninja Sheik  04:11, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth 01
I have no idea. Was that even made by Kishimoto? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think so.-- Ninja Sheik  01:40, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, it was drawn by Kenji Taira-sensei. A young mangaka with several works published in Weekly Shōnen Jump and Akamaru Jump. He's a great admirer of Kishimoto-sensei and I believe he used to assist him, although I'm not sure about that. —ShounenSuki (talk 01:54, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's still about Lee, Guy, Neji, and Tenten, who are all Naruto characters, so they have something to do with the series...sort of. So, what do you guys say? Do we make a page for it or not?-- Ninja Sheik  01:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering the Naruto series is copyrighted, him drawing this other series must be approved by the owner of the copyright. So it is likely an official part of the narutoverse. The only issue i see is how deep do we go. S im A nt 02:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

How deep we go? Can you explain?-- Ninja Sheik  02:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Lee spingtime of youth 2 I think we can made a page about it, like it was a game or movie with the episode list, but we can't add the jutsus.--Nitram86 (talk) 22:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The conversation about this will no longer that place on my place. Go to Lee's page, please.-- Ninja Sheik  22:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reverted Contributions... -.-
Greetings, I´ve noticed that my contributions to some pages weren´t taken and I would like to know why cause the contributions I made weren´t false but not more than a minor credit to the topic. Tell me what is the problem to fix it and if for any chance my contributions could be accepted, Thanks.--WikiAgentZ

Even though they weren't flase, the current version, the version we had before you edited it, was much better. Plus, I alos like to point out to you on your edit of First Hokage's page that you added two pointless trivia, both already mentioned within his page, into his triva section, and were therefore reverted. And because of that reason alone, the reason that how we had the pages as they were before you edited them was better, I helped reverted you edits also with the other users.-- Ninja Sheik  20:37, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal Magnet
Don't feel bad about always being vandal target, it just means you are thwarting them. S im A nt 23:26, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * True. I've had my talk vandalized in the past too. Just ignore and revert when vandals spew stuff at you, no need to "why are you doing this" with that kind of... being. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:31, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

So...I'm not in trouble? Thanks, Simant-senpai, Omnibender-senpai.-- Ninja Sheik  23:42, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Remember, don't bother asking or talking, just report. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 16:14, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, sir.-- Ninja Sheik  18:21, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hokage Page pic?
Why did you undo my revision? I simply replaced some outdated picture with a color one from the anime, as is done with all the other articles. Did I do something wrong?--Zicoihno (talk) 02:09, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

I seem to recall that the Narutopedia usually sticks with the manga verse pic for the Hokage. A while back, we had anime version pic of the Hokage, but it was reverted. Besides, is this picture liscense?-- Ninja Sheik  02:13, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sasori no Danna
Somebody mucked around with Sasori-sama's infobox! adding a cousin to the family part! can you sort that out, Ninja Sheik?--202.156.11.240

I see the problem, but I don't exactly know how to edit infobox. Ask someone else, I'm useless.-- Ninja Sheik  05:44, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Tiny Computer Problem
I consider myself intermediately savvy when it comes to computer stuff, as long as it doesn't involve coding of any sort. For the history problem, go under tools, and then Internet Options (I think it's Internet Options, I've never used IE in English) and the general tab. Under browsing history, there's a check box that determines whether history should be cleaned, and a configuration button for some more options. I usually leave those in the default, except for how long stuff should stay in the history, which I change to two or three months. If the links aren't turning purple because of history not being kept, that should handle it. I know there is a place where you can define color of visited links, but I don't remember exactly where at the moment, so I'm still looking for that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:34, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I know where you can change the color to your own colors to let you know where to visit a site. I read some fourms that say if the IE is not taking History and if the hyperlinks aren't changing to supposed color, then there must some kind of "corruption" in the TIF or the History file. If you delete one of those (or both), the problem should be fix.-- Ninja Sheik  17:38, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Does the history disappear after you close and then restart the browser or do the sites don't even get listed in the same session? I agree that it's possible to corrupted files. Have you installed anything recently, or done anything that could have changed something in the registry? I had a major problem years ago with IE not even opening (back when I still used IE), and the only thing I that worked was doing a system restore. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:52, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't download anything out of the ordinary. The History always appear whether you close the browser or not. History is just basically a list of sites you go to in a certain number of weeks or days.

I really don't want to delete my History, because when I do I have to go all the way back and click on everything again to make sure it's purple, like on the Narutopedia, just the way I like it. Major headache, takes a lot of time. But, it seems like I don't have a choice. Might as well delete the history and see if that works.-- Ninja Sheik  17:55, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Block
Fixed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 07:13, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, hello, Jacce-san. Thanks for the update, but you really didn't have to tell me. I know you did your job, like you always do, as soon as possible. Tee-hee, you know, it was my first report to you about a vandal, but Omni-senpai also told you, so I felt kinda stupid, since I know he'll contact you right away and what I did was unnescessary.-- Ninja Sheik  17:54, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Omnibender
I didn't mean to. I was trying to block the vandal and didn't notice i clicked the wrong page. I unblocked him right away but he hasn't said anything yet T_T--TheUltimate3 ~Aspect of Wiki ~ 02:21, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thank God. I was really worried for my senpai when I saw.-- Ninja Sheik  02:23, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox stuff
You can use this [] to create the page. Depending on the page you want to create though, I found that you can use the search engine and look up "Form:" and a list of page types will come up. Just select the one you want and it'll lead you to a page like the one in the link I sent. --Cerez365 (talk) 22:01, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...Okay.-- Ninja Sheik  22:05, January 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you need the link it's right here, since different pages have different forms. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 22:08, January 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I didn't see Cerez's link up there. ~ Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 22:09, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, okay. I never did info boxes because every time I tried to fix something, I never could figured how to, so I would always just tell someone to do it. It all looked so confusing, I didn't know what to do. I hope I do okay. I'll make the page as soon as I come out of the showers. I'm a little nervous, though, this is going to be the first time I never created a page here on the Narutopedia. I did once on the KH-Wiki, but that was easy.-- Ninja Sheik  22:12, January 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also when you're responding to what someone posted on your talkpage you should post on their talkpage under the same heading or use (Re: whatever the subject matter is) so that they can see your response (the little blue message box). It might look weird but that's how its done ^_^ --Cerez365 (talk) 22:16, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

I know. The KH-Wiki used to do that, but some of us found it tiring going back and forth, and then back and forth all over again when we can just talk on one page. Okay, enough stalling! I have to get started on this page! I can't let my senpais down!-- Ninja Sheik  22:30, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry we got off to bad start. Looking back at the page got me thinking and all. I apologize I was a newbie and still am. I hope you forgive me.--Sasukesgirl3161 (talk) 04:31, February 1, 2011 (UTC)sasukegirls3161

Fine, we'll call it truce.-- Ninja Sheik  21:10, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Ame Orphans
The page was already deleted so I don't think it'll be a problem. It'll be removed automatically, I think. Keep and eye on it though. If it doesn't get removed report it to one of the admins. --Cerez (talk) 02:39, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay.-- Ninja Sheik  02:45, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Who the hell do you think you are to erase the pictures that I've in the page that I'VE CREATED?
You too?! what's wrong wi9th you. First was [Deva 27, now it's you! Let the pics stay, they aren't false! You guys are disgusting! If someone delets the thing you created, would you be happy?? Now think about it, and put the pictures where they were!--LIGHTNING HAWK

Uh, let me thnk about that...NO! They didn't show ANYTHING significant about the Raikage's office! And who the heck do you think you are talking to me like that! If Deva reverted, then he probably had the same reason I have to revert it. So cool it, hotshot.-- Ninja Sheik  22:17, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but lmfao! I dunno why you bother answering these people, Sheik --Cerez (talk) 22:35, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm kinda pissed off right now. Bad day in school, not very happy at home, either.-- Ninja Sheik  22:37, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, it's fine. He's the one in the wrong. --Cerez (talk) 22:40, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Cerez-senpai. I had enough of taking people's crap today. The only place where I feel like I belong is here on the wiki, with you guys, and the websites I hang out everyday, where I have friends and people that understands me.-- Ninja Sheik  22:43, February 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't even bother with spammers and these types of people, just revert the comment (if it's inappropriate or in that range) and report them to Jacce. ~ Fmakck → Talk → Contributions 22:48, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that, but I prefer to settle things in a talk rather than get some block. Believe it or not, I don't like telling on other people. That's why I'm still being bullied in school.-- Ninja Sheik  22:50, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I won't bother you anymore. Do whatever you want with my work. Be happy.--LIGHTNING HAWK (talk) 22:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Good.-- Ninja Sheik  23:02, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Raikage's office
Why are you deliting the info that I put in Raikage's office? It's true information. You can check that out. And if you want check the 417 chapter of manga and see what has the other painting next to the one who says muscle.--LIGHTNING HAWK

I believe that's true, but we don't list those kind of things in the pages.-- Ninja Sheik  22:22, February 11, 2011 (UTC) Okay, fair enough, but search about that painting I told you.--LIGHTNING HAWK

Sign you posts, will you?-- Ninja Sheik  22:30, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, it's just because I created this division, so I assumed you know it was me. LIGHTNING HAWK (talk) 22:32, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, just sign your post when leaving a one.-- Ninja Sheik  22:33, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Motoi Bug
In the browse characters of Kumogakure, the character Motoi is written twice. Can you fix it? LIGHTNING HAWK (talk) 23:11, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

That isn't really in my area, so no. I've never done, or know, to do that.-- Ninja Sheik  23:36, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Kanji Translation
I don't think that's actually the name of the town. The sign says. —ShounenSuki (talk 20:48, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Wind Horse Lane? That's a funny title. Oh, well...Thanks, anyway, Suki-senpai!-- Ninja Sheik  20:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Spammers
Don't let them get your attention, that's what they want. Just report them. ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions 02:25, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I did, to Jacce. I would've yell at that little jerk eariler, but I wanted to listen what you guys said, but then he kept vandalizing my page! Grr...Why it's always me the vandals pick me on?! I'm through putting up with people's crap!-- Ninja Sheik  02:28, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's a tip, if they vandalize your page you should wait a bit and then remove it. If you do it immediately then they take it as a direct response and continue.--Cerez☺ (talk) 02:31, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want their work on my page. The userpage and the talkpage may be the direct property of the wiki, but it is me who is using it right now. I refuse to be belittle by a bunch of brats.-- Ninja Sheik  02:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes that's understandable, but listen to Cerez, if you don't give them attention they'll go away. Heck even my profile got completely erase twice today even though I put in hours of effort to add all those images there. Just revert, report, and don't give them attention.


 * p.s. If they keep picking on you, that means you're removing their vandalism and they don't like it, so keep up the good work. ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions 02:44, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Fmakck-kun! It's nice if me and you can be friends. I saw the images on your userpage, I have you on my Watchlist. You've really worked on those.-- Ninja Sheik  02:47, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed I have. The only problem being is that wikia's cache hasn't updated in a while or something and half of the manga images on my profile show the version previous to mine. And for simplicity's sake, you can just call me Fma-kun if you'd like, Sheik.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 03:27, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then, Fma-kun! And you can call me Sheik-chan! I am a girl, after all.-- Ninja Sheik  03:29, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hey.
Ignore him and report him. Then after a day, revert his stuff.Umishiru (talk)

I know-- Ninja Sheik  02:47, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Jiraiya
Was it too much info? Because I was trying to remove the "<--- --->" part, but the whole thing got deleted. And sorry about the trouble. Brian Waldbart (talk) 02:57, February 22, 2011 (UTC)Brian Waldbart

Yeah, it was. It doesn't have to do with anything with Jiraiya, therefore, it shouldn't be on his page.-- Ninja Sheik  03:06, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Dango Shop Image
I am a bit behind, but I got [this image] of it. Sorry, but no good ones form the inside.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 03:17, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's the sign. Is it too much trouble to ask for the full view of the Dango Shop. Hmmm...As for the inside, that's okay.-- Ninja Sheik  03:23, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep looking though, but the manga image is better, I think.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 03:27, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

The full view of the view still appears in the anime, right? I think in the omake where Naruto took Lady Chiyo might have a good view of the inside.-- Ninja Sheik  03:39, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to check on that one, but in the mean time, here's another image.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 03:43, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's a great view!-- Ninja Sheik  03:45, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dragon Blade/Special
Hello, I don't have account, but I just wanted to tell some one that Akari Tatsuhiro and her brother, Kuroma Tatsushiro, from the game Naruto Shippūden: Dragon Blade Chronicles can be seen in Naruto Shippūden: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! Special in the background of the stage Main Gate.--98.218.79.166 (talk) 12:44, March 5, 2011 (UTC)MHZ1

Right...Okay.-- Ninja Sheik  17:36, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Plan
Unfortunately, I already had some images of the different locations, I had to go looking for the jōnin station again. Here is the outside, and this is the only inside image available.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:16, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I just remembered I can download them from the links I gave you earlier. What do you think of the station's images?  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:21, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

If you can give me another instance or account of when it's shown, that would greatly help.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:29, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I like this outside image better. And I like this wider shot of the inside. Both are from episode 81.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:46, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't have found them without you telling me where I could find them.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:58, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Any idea where I can find the Shushuya in the anime? I know I've seen it multiple times before, I just can't remember where.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:09, March 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Here is a widescreen shot of the bartender serving the sake.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 21:48, March 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're right, all angles are of Tsunade and Jiraiya talking. The bartender shot was actually 2 separate scenes combined together by me.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 22:02, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind the one Cerez added, it looks fine to me.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 22:10, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

One Image of the inside is enough, I think. I'll upload a good image of the sign if I can find one.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 22:19, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay.-- Ninja Sheik  22:28, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Amaguriama: I'll have to look for it again :( - I deleted it and forgot to get another one.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 23:58, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

What episode did Asuma take Team 10 to Amaguriama before he nominated them for the Chūnin Exams? Sorry for the trouble, but just in case, when did Jiraiya go there to chat with women.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 00:39, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

^^ This section's getting too long.. haha - which locations will you be working on next, so I can get a head start on the images.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 01:25, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

When did the Yakiniku Q appear in the series? And how would you feel about an anime image of the sign of the Dango shop's sign and a manga image of the entire shop? EDIT: Thanks friend, I'll get right on searching those images.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 18:48, March 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I got the image of the shop itself so far, but I had to remove the subtitles in photoshop: here's are before and after images.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 19:46, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Episode 107: The Battle Begins: Naruto vs. Sasuke.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 19:52, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Great work, I know many other people that would would have been too lazy to create those pages. I'll try to get a few more images through out this week.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 20:26, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Vandal
Haha, I'd say so. He used my signature several times, I told the vandal to stop, then they used Jacce's signature. It fine though, I reported him/her.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 04:18, March 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Jacce usually replies to me on my reports near midnight where I am (Central Standard Time). It looks like he's stopped now, which is good.  ~ Fmakck© → Talk → Contributions ~ 04:27, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Impure Resurrection
Can you please don't delete the edit I made on the Summoning: Impure Resurrection? It's annoying, thanks.--Futon-Kunai

Hmm...Let me think: No.-- Ninja Sheik  23:15, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well it's about editing and improving things on this site, so stop it (:--Futon-Kunai

Not good enough. We had those edits before, and the high-rank users had a discussion about it before and the edits you made on Impure Resurrection page is not permitted.-- Ninja Sheik  03:01, March 18, 2011 (UTC) I just want to edit this page, if I can't and there's proof of this discussion, show me and I will stop with this pathetic arguing...--Futon-Kunai

It's the second section on the discussion page of the Impure Resurrection.-- Ninja Sheik  03:23, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Hello there, Sheik. It has been a long time?--Shinobi Master (talk) 00:38, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Um...Do I know you?-- Ninja Sheik  00:54, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you do. Guess who I am, Lady Sheik...Hint, hint.--Shinobi Master (talk) 00:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dark Master!?!-- Ninja Sheik  00:59, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Correct. You guessed right.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:00, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

What the heck are you doing on the Narutopedia!? Why'd you follow me here?-- Ninja Sheik  01:01, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

No...I have known about this wiki for a long time. So I decided why not vontribute as an editor. I just noticed you were here and decided to talk to you, that's all.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:03, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Contact me on the KH-Wiki, not here. This talkpage is for when I have buisness.-- Ninja Sheik  01:04, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I am here for buisness. I know quite a lot about Naruto myself. I just wanted to say hi, that's it. Yet I still do not see what the problem is. Aren't you here for buisness on all the wiki you are on?--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:07, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. The KH-Wiki is mostly where I talk to people to socialize and do buisness. The Narutopedia, when I first came here, I decided I would use my talkpage to be professional. And why are you talking to my friend, Kunoichi101?-- Ninja Sheik  01:11, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I was just trying to intoduce myself to her. I am here to improve the wiki and my writing skills. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and I did. I have to contibute more to this wiki. I have not been here for a long time.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:13, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

What about the KH-Wiki, the old one? You were going to stay there full time.-- Ninja Sheik  01:16, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sheik, I work at multiple wiki. I cannot work at full time.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:17, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I never seen you here before.-- Ninja Sheik  01:18, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

That is because I left this wiki for some time. I decided to come back.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:20, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

What changed your mind.-- Ninja Sheik  01:24, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I came back mainly because I felt like it. I also want to test my writing skills. It is also because Naruto has gotten a lot better.--Shinobi Master (talk) 01:26, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I see...-- Ninja Sheik  01:28, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Problem
Um, I noticed that you proclaim yourself as a great editor of this wiki, so I have a problem with the Lightning Release page. It has a trivia section on it, and I am confused on how other chakra natures like Earth Release don't, so explain since your so fantastic about editing--Futon-Kunai

First, I did not "proclaim" myself as a great editor on this wiki. I just know how things work. Second of all, don't give me attitude! Third, the Earth Release does have a trivia. Fourth, the trivia Light Release and the Earth Release both mentioned different releases from the Naruto series filler and movie. The Lightning Release mentions the the Storm Release from the third Shippuden movie and the the Earth Release mentions the Crystal Release, which not a an actually Style in the Naruto series. It only appeared in a filler.

And finally, not all the pages have to have trivia!-- Ninja Sheik  15:36, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's not my fault that the Storm Release nature appeared in the manga and recently the anime, and I am aware that some natures are anime and movie only.--Futon-Kunai

Yeah, whatever. Can we just drop it?-- Ninja Sheik  21:55, March 19, 2011 (UTC)