Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-1018594-20150217173857/@comment-3398493-20150218222322

Lulcielid wrote: I remember Hagoromo at one point stating that madara was coming closer but not surpassing him. That was when he had the Juubi and One Rinnegan before he absorbed the Holy Tree, having his second Rinnegan and the Rinne Sharingan. Madara has both eyes and body and he is a complete Sage so he is above Naruto and Sasuke..

Elveonora wrote: There's difference between power of chakra and experience/knowledge/skill. Hagoromo and Kaguya simply know techniques and stuff that Madara did not, which may make them stronger, but having had their chakras, Madara had the potential to even surpass them. He had the potential since I believe that if he could abosrb chakra from IT he could use for his techs and then he could use Kaguya's techs like Amenominaka. I believe that Madara is on par with Hagoromo.