Talk:Road to Ninja: Naruto the Movie

Evidence
Here is a link to the article from Anime News Network if you are wondering what basis this page has to exist. Umishiru (talk) 12:22, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've mentioned it in my summary. akz! ANBU Symbol.svg 12:23, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just being extra cautious, some don't read summaries and may look to talk pages to see whats going on. Either way its better to be safe than sorry.Umishiru (talk) 12:27, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Tobi
Can we add Tobi in his infobox that he will appear on this movie as depicted in the promotional poster? Shakhmoot (Talk) 10:20, March 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup.--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 12:09, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Canon?
Will this movie be considered canon since Masashi Kishimoto himself will write the story? I know we don't copy from other wikis but I'm just asking since the One Piece wiki considers the Strong World movie to be canon since the Strong World story was conceived by Eiichiro Oda.... 41.124.202.37 (talk) 06:57, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suppose that depends if Kishimoto indicates that it is. Skitts (talk) 07:16, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, it's not the first movie that Kishimoto penned the storyline and characters design himself. Kishimoto contributed on writing of the third movie Naruto Shippūden 3: Inheritors of the Will of Fire with Junki Takegami. As we know that many of characters who has been shown in the movie could be found in the Fourth Shinobi World War. Shakhmoot  (Talk) 08:25, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes but isn't Kishimoto-sensei doing this one entirely? If we're counting those cutscenes in the Generations game as canon then this is the same ne? Well, not that I believe that it should be treated in any special way. Movie stuff is movie stuff. But! in our hearts... we'll know T_T--Cerez365™Hyūga Symbol.svg 09:55, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * While the kekkei genkai shinobi from Inheritors of the Will of Fire did appear in the manga, I don't recall it ever being reported that Kishimoto participated in that movie. We know nothing on how everything happened. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:52, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm with Omni on this one. I never heard that Kishimoto was involved in The Inheritors of the Will of Fire. Road to Ninja is the first movie (with confirmation) that will be entirely written by Kishimoto. Sparxs77 (talk) 16:35, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't lying for my thought, I quoted that from the Wikipedia page of this movie and also Kishimoto wrote something as a massage in the end of this movie broadcast that he hope that everyone will enjoy with watching this movie.  Shakhmoot  (Talk) 17:01, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd have to check in the movie for that message, but I don't see Wikipedia's source for Kishimoto actually writing in this. The external links I found in that article, such as IMDB and Anime News Network say nothing about him writing it. ANN lists him only as the original creator of the series, just like in the other movies. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:45, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well ... since Tobi wears his old attire, I think this movie is non-canon just like the others, even if written by Kishi. --Elveonora (talk) 23:17, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Apparently it's set in an alternate universe where Kushina and Minato were never killed. 207.216.193.21 (talk) 20:34, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * And the source for that is? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:00, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * His arse of course.
 * Ediit- Actually, he got it from the Wikipedia article. However, there is no source for that there also. Better go check up on it and remove it so no one else comes here and puts that in until it's confirmed. Skitts (talk) 22:48, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's safe to assume that seeing as its being hailed as a "10th Anniversary" movie, whatever happens in the movie will probably be non-canon, and speculation that it's set in an alternate universe seems feasible. I'd say it's only logical to assume, such as with the other films, that characters/events will not alter the current manga storyline. Especially considering the anime is quite a while behind still. 49.196.165.6 (talk) 18:00, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

I hope it is set in an alternate universe. It'd make it too sad if it was a genjutsu. --Senjuto 15:46, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I want to bring attention back to the canon saga> I think we can all assume that the events of the Eye of the Moon Plan is obviously genjutsu. However, can the effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi be considered canon and added to the wiki? 41.124.147.215 (talk) 12:58, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * The effects of the Infinite Tsukuyomi in the movie will more than likely go into trivia with the note: "In the movie etc etc etc"--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, this movie (Road To Ninja) is non-canon, since Kishimoto didn't claimed it as a canon to the original story, and also don't habe space within it to be placed. He also wrotte the story of the very first Naruto movie and the sixth movie's story (Inheritors Of Will Of Fire), but they were also not claimed canon despite Kishimoto's influence. So, if Kishimoto doesn't claim it as canon, like Eiichiro did with the Strong World, it is obviously non-canon like the previous movies.

actualy this is the first movie to have been placed in cannon story line. according to the promos and so forth this movie takes place inbetween the search for sasuke arc and the invasion of pain arc. i think this movie should be treated as an AU type thing, kinda like how the comics have multiple universes and in a way all of them are cannon, just not when put together. espacialy since this is the first naruto movie that has a non movie only villain and its being made entirely by kishimoto himself.98.26.246.122 (talk) 09:50, August 11, 2012 (UTC) yomiko-chan

I feel like this is Fan--fic the movie, but it's writen by Kishimoto and they explain it all conveniently with Genjutsu. Still feels like a fan-fic to me though. 76.222.243.117 (talk) 01:41, August 25, 2012 (UTC)

what is it about again ?
I'm not getting it ... an alternative universe where certain events happened differently ? Still dunno the purpose of this movie then --Elveonora (talk) 22:51, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Families?
Did it just say that we will see the families of the Akatsuki members?--D.G 03:35, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Would it better just to remove the last part of "Naruto and Sakura attacked by the masked man"?

I mean look at the official Naruto webpage? The big blue text is not part of the summary just a side text, much like most of it. As a figure of speech. Because the fans such as Narusaku are believing that the movie is about "Naruto and Sakura" and will give little focus on Konoha 11. I mean look at the first movie poster it seemed most about Naruto's parents playing a big role than Sakura, and Team 8 and 10 plus Kakashi and Gai are playing a key role of helping Naruto stop the Genjutsu that Tobi is using. Just a speculation.

No. We are not going to ignore what the direct translation of the movie poster is. Naruto and Sakura getting attacked and being pulled into the genjutsu has nothing to do with NaruSaku. I again ask people to keep any bias out of this site. Please. The poster shows the genjutsu version of everyone else, as can be seen with their unusual appearance and unusual attitude. Naruto and Sakura are the only ones that seem 'normal', so to speak. Please, PLEASE, don't be overly pairing-sensitive. --96.52.179.244 (talk) 03:56, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Stuff ...
Good Sasuke in this movie ? O_O https://twitter.com/naruto_movie/status/208556747420471296/photo/1 --Elveonora (talk) 20:04, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Lol~! He looks like a cute playboy, if you ask me! :) Nice going, finding this concept art for him! Is there any more?-- Ninja Sheik  20:06, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Not that I know of, feel free to browse through the tweets. Sasuke that never turned evil looks ... interesting ? 0_o ... nothing confirmed yet, its just a concept that might not show up in the final movie--Elveonora (talk) 20:15, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.likenaruto.com/funny-sasuke-sexy-hinata-naruto-road-to-ninja/ Sasuke the ladies' boy and now Hinata with Ino's personality ? O_O --Elveonora (talk) 15:51, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Lol~! I can't tell this going to one interesting movie! Kishi should really make more canon movies like this!-- Ninja Sheik  17:57, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=196132 more stuff, I think we should update the article or something--Elveonora (talk) 16:00, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=198309 http://i49.tinypic.com/200qvc5.jpg O_O--Elveonora (talk) 22:29, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well...that's disturbing, all right. Question, though, who's that third person?-- Ninja Sheik  22:35, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sai--Elveonora (talk) 23:17, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

WHAAT?! That's Sai!? I hardly recognized him! O__o Why is he dressed like a girl?!-- Ninja Sheik  23:21, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

That's Tobi's genjutsu ... alternative dimension or some shit--Elveonora (talk) 23:46, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, but still... O__O-- Ninja Sheik  00:02, June 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * He's dressed like a painter, not a girl. 66.220.139.70 (talk) 17:38, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah I think so too. Sai isn't dressed look like a girl, just even more artsy. It's because he's completely covered from head to toe, y'all just in shock lol.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:43, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha! Probably~! ;)-- Ninja Sheik  18:25, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Chouji
Can anyone read the Kanji on Chouji's armour?--

Characters oposite to manga and anime
I saw some posters, and looks like Kishi changed every character look and behavior, Sasuke is now playboy, Hinata looks like got more confident and now care about her look, Shikamaru doesn't seem smart as in manga, Kakashi and Guy switched role, and what is my prediction Jiraiya is not going to be as pervy as in manga...My toughts, Tobi used genjutsu in wich everybody changed to opposite...YamatoTakeru (talk) 09:48, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

In a way that kind of makes sense, but we won't know until Kishimoto-san confirms on how or why he made his characters this way, a sudden change of personality or a mysterious jutsu that caused the Leaf shinobi to become the opposite what they are or releasing a side of them that they try so hard hide. Again we won't know until the full info is released.

Narubi O_O
  It appears Naruto or at least "Dark Naruto" took on the personality of Tobi "_"--Elveonora (talk) 20:05, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Freaky... O__O-- Ninja Sheik  20:16, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

It appears everyone takes either on the opposite of them, or on the personality of enemies and friends.--Elveonora (talk) 20:22, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

What's "motion comic"?--Spcmn (talk) 20:29, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

It will come with the movie in limited numbers--Elveonora (talk) 20:30, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sakura's Parents
This movie seems to reveal Sakura's parents, so how will we list them in the infobox? Or should we not list them all, because we only list anime and manga stuff on the infoboxes. 193.150.231.252 (talk) 21:00, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not enough information about her parents have been revealed. We should wait a while until we know some. - White Flash - (Talk) - 21:15, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

New Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoaZZOERLg, can someone add the info from there?--Elveonora (talk) 00:22, June 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * That trailer leads further to my speculation: that Movie!Canon Naruto somehow gets caught in some alternate universe where everyone's personalities are jacked up. /nods seems logical but not something that can be added to the article. Well information from the newest trailer...may work.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 00:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

We can change "masked man's mysterious doujutsu" to Infinite Tsukuyomi now and mention that neither Kushina or Naruto are Kurama's hosts in the illusion.--Elveonora (talk) 14:57, June 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * It would appear the genjutsu is Infinite Tsukuyomi, but as for the Nine-Tails' jinchuriki, thats unknown. The Nine-Tails appeared free, but that doesn't mean it always was.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 17:26, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kx5HGLrdA more stuff--Elveonora (talk) 08:53, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sakura's Parents
Finally the Sakura's parents!! This will take some work ... JoaoKrauss (talk) 01:49, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Kizashi Haruno will be the name of her father, I guess...I've read it on fb...Can anyone confirm? here akz!  13:00, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mebuki Haruno will be her mother....So should we create articles? akz!  13:04, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can that thing be trusted? -- http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/urbancowgurl777/UltimateSupreme2212-3.png  (T@lk) 13:16, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm very dubious as too if Facebook can be trusted as they can easily be fanon names. I'll look more into this. EDIT: It's true! These are there names by Saiyan Islands standards. See? --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 14:08, July 16, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * That page generally follows the SaiyanIsland, so should we create the articles? akz! ANBU Symbol.svg 14:56, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think we have more information on them than a picture and a name .. sounds like a short article for each, so better to wait till the movie is out.--Elveonora (talk) 15:35, July 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Good point. EDIT: It didn't stop use before. We always had short movie character articles until the actual movie came out.--KiumaruHamachi (talk) 03:30, July 18, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
 * I guess a stub article will do...

Fourth Hokage
When I saw the extended trailer, I noticed that there was a head in place of Minato's, meaning someone else became the Fourth Hokage in this alternate dimension. Who do you think it is? --Senjuto 00:15, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

It's Sakura's father.--Elveonora (talk) 08:52, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wait! Naruto Hokage?
on one of the lats trailers of RtN, I see naruto with hokage clothes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kx5HGLrdA&feature=player_embedded --MaskedManMadara (talk) 20:46, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

He just wears his father's cloak--Elveonora (talk) 20:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

So, is a homage? --MaskedManMadara (talk) 21:36, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, avenging Minato by defeating Tobi and all ... this is in the "real" universe though, in Infinite Tsukuyomi, Sakura's father appears to be the 4th Hokage--Elveonora (talk) 21:47, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Really? Sakura's father? You got that from the scan?-- Ninja Sheik  22:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hokage monument has his head there--Elveonora (talk) 23:05, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Really? I didn't notice that. Sakura's father must be really strong, then.-- Ninja Sheik  23:08, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Two jinchuuriki in this movie
There is artwork leaked onto the internet for Road to Ninja showing Fuu and Yagura's art for the film.

Here's the link

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/188/d/3/naruto_road_to_ninja_by_kira_xd-d56axo4.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/188/e/c/naruto_road_to_ninja_by_kira_xd-d56axcy.jpg

can we please add this to the gallery section? Also, shall we add a note of them being in the film on their respective pages?

OneShot
should an article be created?? akz!  15:48, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Conclusions Based off OneShot
1) The entire movie is a genjutsu based around Limited Tsukuyomi. 2) The film would appear to be placed around when Tobi gave Taka the order to capture Killer Bee. 3) Personalities in the genjutsu are...reversed. Based on the splash art
 * Rock Lee...is exactly the same.
 * Ino is timid.
 * Choji is serious (I.E. Shikamaru)
 * Shikamaru is laid back and carefree
 * Sasuke by the titans Sasuke is actually a likable character.
 * Sakura...appears to be normal.
 * Naruto also appears to be normal.
 * Hot damn Hinata.
 * Kiba seems more violent, as does Akamaru.
 * Shino hates bugs.
 * Tenten is serious, wounded, and actually kind of scary.
 * Neji is perverted.

4) And because Kishimoto made the OneShot, it does some wonky things to Movie Canon (no it isn't linked with Manga/Anime canon, but at least for this movie it doesn't look like it can just be...swept aside...)--TheUltimate3 (talk) 18:41, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * As well as Guy and Kakashi. Guy looks a bit like Shikamaru (lazy) and Kakashi seemed to have a bit of energetic personality. - White Flash - (Talk) - 19:02, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

and shino hate the insect (look like have a insect repellent) and kiba look more like a cat that a dog ten ten look like is not good with the weapons --Nitram86 (talk) 09:20, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Here's what I got from the One-Shot coupled with the Road to Sakura episode:

Rock Lee is the same, personality-wise.

Ino seems like Hinata

Choji is skinny and argues with Shikamaru

Shikamaru is an idiot (no offense, but he's not intelligent)

Sasuke's a player, embracing the girls that love him and seems to be in love with Sakura

Sakura's normal since she was caught in the Genjutsu. Her counterpart, however, is somewhat similar except for her dead parents, and she hates Sasuke, possibly due to his player attitude.

Naruto's normal since he's caught in the Genjutsu. Menma is a different story.

Hinata's possessive of Naruto (maybe they're dating) and openly shows it. She also isn't afraid to show off her "goods", and gets insanely jealous if Naruto hangs around other girls.

Kiba is a cat person.

Shino seems to be a bug exterminator.

Tenten is wounded, so maybe she had an accident with ninja tools and instead is a fist-fighting, brawler type. That explains why the weapons are used as hair ornaments.

Neji uses his Byakugan in the most entertaining way: "research". Maybe he took after Jiraiya.

Also, Kakashi seems to be like Guy and full of energy, and Guy seems miserable, possibly thinking himself as an old man who lost his youth. Those are my interpretations. LeeHatake93 (talk) 03:49, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

What are those masked beasts?
Hey does anyone have any idea what they are cause they don't look like bijuu even thought it says so in the picture?--D.G 23:26, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

We don't know, the only answer I can give to you is: "with different names and different forms than you exist now" likely how the Tailed Beasts appear in the alternative world.--Elveonora (talk) 23:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * They're called the Four Gods and the Little Fox (四神と子狐, Shijin to Kogitsune). The Four Gods, are based on the Four Symbols, also known as the Four Sacred Beasts, the Holy Beasts, the Four Gods, and various other monikers. Individually, the five beasts are named Byakko, Suzaku, Genbu, Seiryū, and Kogitsune. They're all wearing masks with the same three-eyed motif as the black-haired Naruto that has been depicted a couple times so far (concept art in the first trailer, and on the cover of the Motion Comic DVD). It's been hinted that they're somehow connected to the nine Tailed Beasts. FF-Suzaku (talk) 03:03, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Why does this article refer to them as Tailed Beasts? Shouldn't it be changed to something like Masked Beasts? Diamonddeath (talk) 19:09, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

road to naruto and road to sakura
the next episode of the anime after the 270 is like a anticipation of the movie with a sakura point of view so i was thinking about adding a link  in this page with the oneshot about the movie because bot้ are special related with the movie Road to Naruto The Movie--Nitram86 (talk) 13:47, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * It would seem so. At the very least a "parody"--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 13:51, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

the problem is if they are strong related with the movies they deserve have a link in this page for now we must add the one about the one shot because is out something like "before the airing of the movie kishimoto made a special chapiter related with the movie" and then the link to the one shot page  --Nitram86 (talk) 13:59, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That fine and all but what is there to link? The one shot manga hasn't been released yet (as far as I know) nor has the movie or the anime episode which is to debut next week.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 14:13, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

the one shot is out i don't know if you wait when is out on a specific scannetion group --Nitram86 (talk) 14:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

In any case, I wanted to ask if someone can unlock the page for a minute so I can make a minor edit.-- Ninja Sheik  17:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Putting these links is highly discouraged. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:12, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry! I didn't know. T__T-- Ninja Sheik  20:15, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, a section should be added for movie promotion, with links to articles for Road to Naruto the Movie, Road to Sakura, and the Naruto Motion Comic DVD. FF-Suzaku (talk) 03:05, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

character of the movie and of the manga
i was thinking about the character of the movie have a different personality and apparence so we must create a new page for the movie contropart of the character or we use the page about them in the manga?? --Nitram86 (talk) 20:42, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't say that quite yet. Movie stuff is usually left in a section at the end of the article. We should see the movie first. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:05, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * That being said by Omni-senpai, the movie is set to release next Saturday in theaters, and the DVD for it usually won't come until maybe six to eight months. Most people can see the movie from leak clips that people in Japan recorded on YouTube and other sites, but the quality is so bad. So, it might be a while until we create any new pages that might be related to the movie.-- Ninja Sheik  21:19, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

but in the last episode we see sakura contropart she have a different background (with the parents death when she was young and the father hokage) so she is a different person from the real wold sakura. the same is from the other charcters. --Nitram86 (talk) 19:52, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

I think "alternative history" in her article is enough.--Elveonora (talk) 20:16, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not even. This alternate world is confusing many people, but the Japanese website confirmed it is an illusionary world created by Tobi's trial run of Infinite Tsukiyomi. It may or may not be real, it's more than just an illusion, but it was created by Tobi. If anything, this trial run technique should have it's own section and we can mention the alternate world there. Diamonddeath (talk) 19:12, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

There really isn't going to be enough information on the "Finite Tsukuyomi" counterparts for the characters to make articles, they'll deserve probably a paragraph at most because they're not given a ton of development or backstory. It might be better to simply create an article for the technique and create subsections listing the distortions of the illusion, such as the changed layout of Konohagakure, the changes in personalities and mannerisms for characters, and changes to the history of the setting. Probably the only character who will warrant a full article is Menma (the alternate, mask-wearing, black-haired Naruto, not to be confused with the anime filler character), as he's got a different name and acts as the film's primary antagonist. Also, if anyone's interested, I've been posting spoilers from the movie on mangahelpers. FF-Suzaku (talk) 16:39, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Menma doesn't need a new article, it's Naruto from the finite tsukuyomi (in the AU version, still likely Jiraiya just named him Menma instead of Naruto, but it's the same character) possessed by Tobi. The problem is, that the "true" "canonical" Naruto is also using this name, Menma in the tsukuyomi because no one knows him by the name of Naruto. Something like this I guess: - Naruto 6: Road to Ninja - "Naruto goes by the name of his AU version, Menma" etc. "AU version of Naruto Menma is "what if" Naruto that turned evil and got "possessed" (not really possessed, more like Tobi is in control of AU Naruto's body in the illusion, so I'd call it "Narubi" and some shit"--Elveonora (talk) 16:50, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

@FF-Suzaku: Menma, huh? I never thought Evil Naruto's name would be changed. How come you know all of this, FF-Suzaku? You saw the movie in Japan? How long was it, by the way?-- Ninja Sheik  17:41, July 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've spent the morning reading reviews, summaries, and discussions on Japanese message boards, blogs, and movie review websites. I just posted a full summary of the movie on mangahelpers, based on a summary I got from a blog, along with information gleaned from other reviews and discussions. FF-Suzaku (talk) 18:15, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

COOL~! :) I'm gonna go read it now!-- Ninja Sheik  18:33, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Menma?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUw1mTitBpE&feature=channel&list=UL naruto is menma? Kunoichi101 (talk) 21:02, July 28, 2012 (UTC)Kunoichi101

sigh... read above. Both Narutos are Menmna in the Tsukuyomi, because in the AU, Naruto was not named Naruto but Menma.--Elveonora (talk) 21:06, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Story
Why isn't there more information about the plot? Is it that no one on the wiki has seen the film or something? 75.120.133.205 (talk) 03:34, August 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 09:44, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Online availability
When will the movie be online? Does anybody know? --Axel Carrozzo (talk) 02:47, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Nope. First, recording in theaters in Japan is illegal. And second, the DVD release for the movie probably won't come out until April, although for some reason, there's a rumor going on about the DVD coming out in Oct. 30.-- Ninja Sheik  02:58, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I had that doubt.--Axel Carrozzo (talk) 16:59, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

How's the article having content added if the movie is still not available? someone got to watch it? where/how?--Holyn (talk) 05:20, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Most of the information on the page are from officials sources like the movie's website. Everything else is what we found out from blogs and forums from those who actually watched the movie in Japan.-- Ninja Sheik  17:11, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Yagura and Fū in the movie
What role do those jinchūriki have in this movie? I have that doubt. --Axel Carrozzo (talk) 17:02, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Fu doesn't appear in the movie.--Elveonora (talk) 17:37, August 13, 2012 (UTC) Thank you.--Axel Carrozzo (talk) 01:46, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Fu appears. I saw she and Yagura Artwork for the film another day.

Only artwork, not everything planned makes it into the final release, Fu doesn't physically appear there--Elveonora (talk) 22:03, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Concepts and designs
What happened? I've noticed this for awhile, but what happened to all the concepts and designs on the page? How come it all got taken down? I was kind of upset that none of it is here at all. Anybody care to explain?--Black Ronin8 (talk) 18:51, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

The movie is out, so pointless to have a pre-release material there--Elveonora (talk) 22:04, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

It would still be nice for other people who have not seen the movie yet to have the chance to see the concepts. It's stuff like that I wish we had an image gallery for certain things and if the characters had their own image gallery then we could've at least put the concepts from Road to Ninja int their respective character's gallery. :(--Black Ronin8 (talk) 23:02, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

1 Billion sales, yatta!
Kishimoto drew this to commemorate that. Just letting you guys know :) Seelentau 愛議 22:36, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

I heard about that when it first came out. It's been a while since then, but I'm glad you're happy about it like I was. It's really great the movie was such a success. I'm totally getting the DVD if it comes out in English.-- Ninja Sheik  22:38, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Synopsis
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This is set just after Naruto's encounter with Kushina inside the seal and him subsequently defeating Kurama.

The Konoha 11, Kakashi, and Guy notice several Akatsuki members in the forest outside of Konoha. They prepare an ambush but Naruto leaps out too early ruining the sneak attack. After a brief fight, the Akatsuki retreat.

After the strange encounter with the revived Akatsuki (the reason is very simple and fits with the Shippuden storyline), Naruto and friends walk home after a successful mission. While everyone else has someone congratulating them, Naruto has nobody, which makes him feel lonely as he has no one to tell him how proud they are of him.

After hearing that the rest of the Konoha 11 might be recommended for jonin Naruto asks Iruka to recommend him for jonin too. Iruka refuses, saying that just because Naruto saved the village from Pain doesn't put him above everyone else. Naruto storms off.

Naruto refuses to even eat ramen, which shows how angry he is. He realizes that despite saving the village, he's still alone, dark, and jealous of everyone else. He yearns for his parents to be by his side and to know that his achievements actually mean something to someone.

Meanwhile, Sakura is arguing with her extremely overbearing parents. They want her to become a jonin and make a career in the hospital instead of being a battle medic. Sakura refuses because she wants to find Sasuke and bring him back to Konoha. Naruto stumbles across this argument and tells off a surprised Sakura for how much she takes her family for granted.

Tobi then shows up with his beta version of the Infinite Tsukiyomi. Naruto and Sakura are thrown into a world shaped by their deepest desires. Naruto wishes for his parents to be by his side. Sakura wishes to be free from her parents.

Thus, in the Limited Tsukiyomi Naruto's parents survive and Sakura's died sealing Kurama. Sakura's dad was the 4th Hokage. Despite being an orphan, Sakura is treated with respect rather than being ostracized like Naruto was.

They quickly discover that everyone's personalities are inverted. Sasuke (who remained in the village) is a playboy and a flirt. Hinata is perusing Naruto and is extremely aggressive, even giving death threats out to people she sees as competition. Shino hates bugs and carries around insecticide and takes regular baths to clean himself of his insects. Kiba likes cats and hates Akamaru, and vice versa.

Tenten is clumsy and has terrible aim, Neji is a pervert who uses the Byakugan to peek on women, and Rock Lee is a crossdresser. Ino is shy and timid, Chouji is slim and dislikes food, Shikamaru is dull-witted and moronic and Sai is extremely temperamental (with no artistic talent).

Tsunade is still the Fifth Hokage, but she is older, flatchested and wears glasses, while Shizune is busty and loves drinking alcohol, and Tonton is extremely aggressive.

Kakashi is energetic and "youthful" while Gai thinks of himself as an old man past his prime. Alternate Sakura doesn't exist in the movie - she was teleported to the canon world in a filler episode ("Road to Sakura").

Sakura revels in her new found freedom. Her parents are no longer here, and so she acts somewhat immature as she does what she pleases and enjoys Sasuke's flirting. It doesn't last long though: Sakura quickly discovers what Naruto meant by her taking her parents for granted, and after seeing playboy Sasuke in action (flirting with other girls) she comes to understand what really matters.

Meanwhile, Naruto is determined to break the illusion. He is angry that Tobi is using his own desire to be with his parents against him. He acts angry, snappy, and contempt, even with Minato and Kushina, who are confused to why he's so angry. It's only after Jiraiya dies again and they retrieve the last intel from him (a mysterious red scroll) that Naruto begins to let down his guard and embrace the illusion.

Sakura sees Naruto finally happy with his parents, and she feels terrible about what Naruto had been through. Despite knowing that this world isn't real and that she is alone in this world, she doesn't want to take all of it away from Naruto. Naruto also avoids Sakura because he feels guilty about living his life when Sakura's parents are dead in this world.

Then the antagonist appears - Menma, Naruto's evil counterpart. He uses this big jutsu that looks like a black rasenshuriken but actually works like a Shinra Tensai to destroy Konoha. With a group of nine mysterious masked beasts at his command, he kicks everybody around before taunting Naruto and kidnapping Sakura.

Naruto finally comes to his senses as his parents beg him not to risk his life going after Sakura. He understands that despite the fact that he neverh got to be with his parents and experience the loving memories all his friends received, their will still exists within him and helped him, and Naruto comes to understand that he was never truly alone. He says his goodbyes and goes off to confront Menma for the final battle.

The alternate Akatsuki are revealed: they're a group of hired mercenaries who Tsunade hires as backup for Naruto in the final battle against Menma...

The Akatsuki pair off against Menma's masked beasts as Naruto takes on Menma. Naruto releases Kurama to take on Menma's Kurama. Using Sage Mode Naruto manages to defeat Menma, but Tobi (who was watching the whole time) takes over Menma's body, Menma gaining Tobi's sharingan. Naruto unleashes his trump card: the Flying Thunder God technique, which combined with the Rasengan allows him to defeat Tobi/Menma.

Turns out the scroll that Jiraiya had contained a sealing technique which seperates Tobi/Menma. Menma turns good again and Naruto and Sakura wake up from the genjutsu world.

Tobi and Zetsu discuss the results of their temporary world. Tobi says that he won't fail when the real thing happens.

Naruto and Sakura have a chat about their experiences in the world, and they want to know each other more, and fluffy things like that. Naruto asks Sakura on a date but Sakura says that "we just had the longest date ever."

--- WOOO! I might have made some mistakes, and some details may have been left out (since I only heard the details second hand). Correct me if I'm wrong on any point.

--101.162.70.3 (talk) 06:10, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me, Anonymous 101.162.70.3, thank you for going to the trouble to type this and all, but I'm afraid we cannot update our pages like this. It is true that when the movie first came out, another user posted a rough synopsis of the movie on a forum. However, as always, we cannot possibly update the articles with the movie info from a plot that is missing parts and has errors in it. We wait until the movie is out on DVD, so we can watch it at our leisure and update them correctly.-- Ninja Sheik  18:24, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

The movie Is out but In Japonese on NarutoGet so whoever can understand Japanese edit the article -- Jean Daichou Loves Naruto 18:06, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

trivia worthy?
The way Naruto defeated "Madara" mimics his father, basically he pulled out "a Minato" on him, sounds interesting enough to me--Elveonora (talk) 17:19, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly, that's what I liked in this movie. For your question, I think it deserves a trivia for that scene. — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 17:23, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wut?
The release date? I's not true, right? RIGHT??94.135.132.63 (talk) 20:02, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * HEEEELP! I need an answer!! please!!94.135.132.63 (talk) 23:43, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think so. There was something about a release date in the promo for next week's episode. I wouldn't get my hopes up though. Having seen the movie in the Korean dub, it felt pretty lacklustre, specially considering all the hype that went into it. I sincerely doubt that intelligible dialogue and subtitles will do much to change that. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:49, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I saw parts of it in korean too...well, I still look forward to it, it can't be worse than the fourth one.94.135.132.63 (talk) 23:53, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Concerning Menma as a jinchuriki
Should it be trivia that Menma is a jinchuriki despite Kushina not dying? Gugi 15:04, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

No, it's more than likely Kushina would have survived if she weren't pierced with that giant claw.--Elveonora (talk) 15:46, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

I would like menma to be listed as a Jinchūriki but If not agreed then he should mentioned In the trivia --ROOT 根 (talk) 16:35, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

He already is being listed.--Elveonora (talk) 16:53, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, in the genjutsu world, wouldn't it have been Sakura's parents who bought it making Menma the jinchuriki? I dunno, there is a few spots which are very hard to explain in relation to the real world in terms of Naruto. --Hawkeye2701 (talk) 18:01, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

Menma
Perhaps I didn't understand the movie and you guys can help me.

Did Obito take control of Menma? It seems that way. You guys called him a strong rogue ninja, however it didn't seem that he was absent for a long period of time... Neither his friends nor his family illustrated that he had 1. Become evil and 2. Left the village. So was he manipulated? Even before he gained the Sharingan?

Sorry. Forgot the thing. 65.188.41.37 (talk) 22:05, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

You forgetting the other universe has no real past, meaning there's no before, so it doesn't matter when he turned evil, he just turned into existence as evil the moment the genjutsu took effect--Elveonora (talk) 22:30, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Two versions of movie?
Hi, aren't two versions of this movie or something like that? Because somewhere around 37:00 in the movie is a scene where Naruto yells at Sakura. In this picture has Sakura her hand on ear and behind Naruto stays some man. http://oi50.tinypic.com/tat10h.jpg But here  http://24.media.tumblr.com/d5faf46b81e4efecb3ece078c67387c3/tumblr_mmpddkhjTD1rx392qo1_400.gif she doesn’t have arm on her ear and behind Naruto doesn’t stay any man. So how is it possible? Are there two versions of the movie? TheMissUzumaki (talk)

The animators probably changed the scene before the movie (if one of those scenes is from a trailer or something) was released or sometime after it.-- Ninja Sheik  16:16, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps one is the original release, the other DVD?--Elveonora (talk) 16:55, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

details after rewatching with subs
The Tsukuyomi world was housed in the crystal ball that trapped them inside in a blinding light, which somehow later (I don't still get it how) got broken by Naruto throwing a kunai at Obito, since it resulted in cancellation of the technique (2). At least but not the last, Naruto briefly kept Sakura dad's 4th Hokage cloak with him after returning to their own world (3). Finally, Kakashi in the end stated it must have been a sort of space-time ninjutsu (4). So any counter-arguments this time? Should be all--Elveonora (talk) 17:08, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * The world indeed is real, confirmed 4 times, unless I'm retarded. I remember arguing with you Omni about this, you disagreed despite what the movie has shown and told. Obito himself states it transfers whole being into there, bodies included (1).
 * Naruto's birthday Iruka cake thing is fishy. Do we know in which arc did Naruto exactly turn 16? Because the movie took place after Pain arc. That would either suggest Naruto turned 16 only after defeating Nagato, otherwise he had turned 17. Unless Kishi just pasted it there without giving it a second thought about timeline and consistency.
 * Apparently, Tailed Beast Extraction Technique is a Sharingan power.
 * Menma in fact did display jinchuuriki form, he showed red fox eyes
 * Doesn't Guy's new unshown Eight Gates attack still deserve an article?
 * Don't know about the first point, I would find it more logical if the world is simply a genjutsu copy of the real world, created by Obito.
 * I don't think we can take this seriously, it does not make sense at all and does not fit between any arc in my opinion, the Trivia section states it pretty well.
 * When exactly was this stated? I don't want to watch the whole movie again....was it during the flashback at the beginning?
 * Can agree to that.
 * What Eight gates attack? A new article was already made for him back then, did he perform another technique too?Norleon (talk) 17:28, August 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not about logic, but about what's true therefore canon.
 * Perhaps.
 * Kurama tells Naruto and the moment the eye contact between them breaks thanks to Sakura, the extraction stops
 * Should be noted then.
 * Didn't notice, all well if so.--Elveonora (talk) 17:46, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

If the word is indeed real, should be rewritten, as much fubar as that concept sounds for me. It even defeats the purpose of it being called Genjutsu World. Don't really think that we should concern ourselves too much with time, given that they spend a lot of time in the other world, but no time at all passes in the real world. Don't think that TBET should be counted as Sharingan just yet, Kushina was bound by sealing formulas all over, that all seems pointless if all Obito had to do is make eye contact. Middle Age Attack articles exists for a while now, don't recall a different technique of his being shown. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:24, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Well, power of grandpa six was to make things come true from nowhere and Izanagi is turning genjutsu into reality and reality into genjutsu. Another proof that already was mentioned but I forgot this time around is that the plan was to extract Kurama in there. Wouldn't be possible if it were an illusion (5). Also Kurama said that if Naruto dies, he (Kurama) will be trapped inside the genjutsu world (6). Both Naruto and Sakura were trapped in the same realm and perceived it together and interacted. The only time we have seen genjutsu intervening with each other was the case when Itachi and Sasuke casted an additional layer of genjutsu on top of Kabuto's to enter each other's illusion, otherwise it's not possible, since genjutsu works by creating mess in ONE'S brain, Naruto and Sakura are two people, they shouldn't be in the same realm, but rather Naruto should have had a genjutsu Sakura in there and Sakura a genjutsu Naruto in there if it were an ordinary illusion, proof (7) Do I need to go on? ;) For the sealing technique, Kurama said that it's the same technique Obito used on Kushina and that he Naruto shouldn't look into his eye else it's all over. On top of that, I saw no chains or formulas and the moment eye contact broke, the extraction stopped. For Menma, do you think red fox eyes deserve jinchuuriki forms article?--Elveonora (talk) 21:19, August 15, 2013 (UTC)