Board Thread:Wiki Discussions/@comment-25075055-20140331114355/@comment-6794268-20140403182028


 * Answer one simple question for me Taynio: how on earth does a social function improve the wikia?

-That is your first problem. It's not a social function in and of itself. It's a place for learning. So how can I answer a question when the question itself is faulty? But to be friendly, I will hypothetically answer it based on how it is phrased. A "social function" like the forum allows for people to ask questions. If it is so decided to allow general topics in regarding Naruto, I fail to see how it would even hurt the wikia. People come here, they read the information, they go back to the forums and discuss things. They continue to learn. Maybe something is found out from the discussion and is brought back to the Talkpages to be further reviewed. You said the forum's discussion wouldn't help in improving articles or talk pages, but you're completely dismissive and ignorant. People have discussions of many Naruto topics, and that can translate back into improving the wiki by finding out information, finding contradictions, finding holes, etc. It improves critical thought and creativity. It also promotes learning, the very foundation of this wikia.


 * Just give me or anyone here one indisputable way that it will make the wikia a better place.

- And how will it not? Your posts are riddled with no valid reasoning, other than "because I said so", yet you want people who have already pointed out how to provide more reasoning which you willingly ignore.


 * In tired of people vaguely saying it will better the wikia without providing any valid reasoning behind it.

-I am tired of your obtuse and fallacious logic, as well as refusing to acknowledge what the forum actually brings. All you see is "Naruto iz laik so kewl! amirite? yay! lez be narutards together!" When it's more of people discussing and learning. People can come ask questions. There is a lot of information to go through, and some of it isn't answered in one article only. Is it your intention to drive internet traffic to other sites?


 * Bottom line is people asked for forums, agreed when chat was offered as an alternative. Don't come back pissy because you aren't getting the social fulfillment you had intended.

- As I stated earlier in this post and others: fallacious. Stop taking this personally and stop using insults. Your reasoning and faulty logic has absolutely no place here, Cerez. The sad thing is that I actually thought you were better than resorting to such childish antics. A person cannot even have a reasonable debate without you acting like an ignorant Christian, "It's in the bible, so its wrong!". And that's not a strawman -- that's the kind of ignorance you're showing, whether the end result is a forum or not. No one is missing social interaction, except maybe you because you do not know how to conduct yourself in a manner becoming of someone who is supposed to be well-respected around here.


 * Maybe in future we will have forums like when the series ends and we have all the articles wrapped up, but how about for now you guys work with the chat feature instead of complain about audaciousness at very turn? We've stopped using social features for however long now and it's never affected THIS wikia no art statistic associated with it. I'm honestly sick and tired of you people wailing like spoilt children and expecting everyone else to concede to what you want, when you want just because you want it.

- Use the chat feature to what end? People don't come on here to chat 24/7. People have lives. Even people who come here for answers to questions won't sit and wait around for their question to be answered. That is part of the good of a forum -- place your question, come back later and find out the answer. Yet you feel as if you're an expert enough to place thought on it, when you don't even understand the functionality of things. And -I- AM SICK of having to feel as if I am putting you down for things you're doing. I hate feeling like I am insulting someone like this. I much rather us have a debate with valid arguments and reasoning, without bringing ad hominem and other obtuse, fallacious, ignorant things into the mix. No one here except you is acting like a spoiled child with how they're behaving. Everyone else is being calm. Get. The. Fuck. Over. Yourself. Cerez. And even if it ends up being human interactions and being social -- why the fuck not? You do not even have a reasoning for that. As I said -- all you do is say "No", then go on to insinuate people are acting like spoiled children.

And oh, it has affected the wiki, even if you've not noticed. People are more apt to find information elsewhere when they don't have to read entire articles. Sure, there's a lot of information here. And if I remember correctly, not too long ago it was decided to shorten the length of articles because it started becoming too much information.


 * I'm not disagreeing with this "just because"' or because I'm adhering to archaic policies. I simply see no reason for it any at all and I won't be strong armed into saying otherwise.

-Except that's exactly what you're doing, and I've said it many times on here. You've failed to explain the negatives, and dismiss and positives. Your argument equates to "The bible said so". You won't even look at the other side, and when you vaguely attempt to, you blow it out or proportion and assert everyone else is a spoiled child looking for social interaction that mummy and daddy didn't give them. What. The. Fuck.