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Prime Hiruzen is fanfiction. His best offensive technique (that doesn't result in his death) is Karyuu Endan... Madara can counter that with one of his own, better Katons or avoid it completely.

Madara only uses 3T so he can "dance" with Hiruzen for a while, and then kills him when Hiruzen's energy bottoms out. EMS and/or Kurama would be a murderstomp.