Talk:Koharu Utatane

Rank
Since Koharu is retired, she no longer has a rank. Now there is no doubt that the highest rank she attained should be noted in the article, however I have checked both the manga and the databooks and found no mention of her former rank. Therefore, I have removed the old mention of her having been a jounin. If any one has any proof of her previous rank, please come forward with it. --ShounenSuki 20:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

RANK
The fact that she belongs to Team Tobirama, together with Homura and Hiruzen (Third Hokage), she definitely was formerly Jonin-rank shinobi. It would be very impossible to be elevated to the "Elder" status if she has not been a veteran in the shinobi wars. She definitely had gained a lot of experience from that, does it proves further that she was a Jonin-rank.
 * Unless she was a tokubetsu jōnin. Or an ANBU. Hey, Jiraiya called her ; maybe she went the same route as Iruka and started teaching at the Academy as an eternal chūnin. All ranks fought in the Shinobi World Wars. Besides, saying it would have been nearly impossible for her to become a councillor without having been a jōnin is pure speculation.
 * In other words, there is no way to know what rank she held before retiring and becoming a councillor. It's all speculation, unless it is actually said in the series. --ShounenSuki 14:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Villains?
I was just thinking since Koharu and Homura have both been working with Danzo and opposing Tsunade,they should be considered villians. What do you guys think?24.161.127.236 (talk) 21:44, September 11, 2009 (UTC)