Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-5936871-20160126112547/@comment-26993711-20160220170100

Dude ...what you said doesn't make any sense. First off, Nagato has better speed feats with DEAD BODIES than Itachi. So Nagato would destroy him in Taijutsu. Secondly, Nagato's Rinnegan is Madara's Rinnegan. So unless you are telling me that the ridiculous predictive abilities granted by the Sharingan, enhanced by the MS, and even further enhanced by the EMS are gone once the Rinnegan activates, Nagato completely and utterly destroys just about every character in the series in Taijutsu except Edo Madara and up. So -

- Rinnegan > Genjutsu

- Rinnegan > 3T/MS perception

- Preta path > Susanoo/Totsuka/Yata

- Asura > Any weapon Itachi has

- Deva > Everything Itachi has

Basically Nagato >>>>>>>>>> Itachi. Itachi's advantage of perception means nothing if he can't keep up. Or do you think that Sasuke was winning against Lee before the Chunin Exams.

P.S. Better than Sensory division? Who cares? Nagato could sense through a barrier set up by Kabutomaru (probably in SM) meant specifically to stop people from sensing through it. And if you think (for some reason) that Nagato can't, he has Rinnegan, this means he can see the chakra.

1."Nagato has better speed feats with DEAD BODIES than Itachi"

'''LOL! that alone makes me certain that you have no idea what you're talking about at all.'''

2. enhanced by the EMS are gone once the Rinnegan activates

'''LOL! isn't that why madara had to swap to his EMS just to place Ay in gen? also, considering that base fatigue naruto w/o sagemode was able to hold his own against deva pain in tai. yeah, i don't think he possess it. if so, his perception was watered down into a complete joke in nagato's control'''

3. "Itachi's advantage of perception means nothing if he can't keep up."

'''LOL! wow. 3T sasuke precog the crap out of KNaruto and easily dodge KB's cloak tails, a feat that hasn't been done since the raikage. yet itachi had no problem prior against sauce and even out paced him. lmao, i'm pretty certain anyone here who has seen more than 10 episodes knows speed won't be a problem against nagato.'''

4. "Nagato completely and utterly destroys just about every character in the series in Taijutsu except Edo Madara and up."

'''LOL! the wanking lvl is over 9000!'''

5. Rinnegan > Genjutsu

facepalm

6. Preta path > Susanoo/Totsuka/Yata (double facepalm) totsuka and yata isn't chakra.

7. Deva > Everything Itachi has '''except gen and totsuka. nagato's major vulnerability'''

'''The fact that nagato lacks perception and gen resist, will always give itachi the advantage no matter what. even IF nagato was better at taijutsu, it doesn't matter. the 3T perception and above will predict it and itachi will properly respond to it with a counter via dodge or nin. just like he did against sage kabuto. no amount of wanking will give nagato the win. the only person who has the right answers to stop itachi is sasuke via: blessed with the genes to actually escape time tsukuyomi. No need to continue with this.'''

@ishi

"Bee overwhelmed Sasuke using 3T Sharingan"

'''Sigh.....i'm beginning to see this consistent trend of nagato fans not knowing crap about how sharingan works. sasuke struggled with bee's NON linear swordsmanship. but the moment KB went cloak and charged at sasuke, his 3T had no problem dodging it. (and mind you MS precog> 3T precog)'''

"Saying CT is invalid because Nagato would already be in Genjutsu is invalid lol"

'''Normal circumstances yes, however itachi has several feats of catching foes in gen long before the fight even began. as well as foes who expected it and still got caught in it. it's not invalid, infact it's itachi's main edge. especially considering gen is his primary jutsu, where as nagato's CT isn't.'''

Saying CT or nagato loses is well...then he'll just use CT and win

'''But there lies the problem. would nagato use CT asap? there's a much likely chance that he won't and if he did, he wouldn't play it smart like IRL people would and not look at itachi and just sense and throw the CT. Cause if we did, we would have to do the same IRL logic with itachi. he would just blitz his ass towards nagato using attacks to occupy nagato from using the hand sign then just totsuka = GG. it doesn't work that way, because CT= GG is just as valid as Totsuka = GG. therefore we must solve this debate with other means. imo '''

"Itachi can't fight long range (YM negated by Gakido)and Nagato has better stall tactics if for some reason Nagato choses to wear him down (since Itachi has low stamina) or if any fellow debater thinks he needs to so he can get up CT."

'''lol, bro. that's the point of susanoo w/yata & totsuka. to close the gap.'''

Just because it has special sealing power doesn't mean its penetration power is increased.

'''I get what you're saying. but the manga and databook clearly states it can pierce all. and even IF it couldn't, is it really fair to state it couldn't pierce nagato's? with no evidence whatsoever? and before you or anyone say databook means nothing, i find that ironic, because before the rinnegan immunity to gen was debunked to be a mistranslation from a troll, nagato fanboys were eating that up like it was crack cocaine'''