Talk:Naruto and the Sage of Six Paths…!!

Night Moth Debut
Guy speaks of Night Moth, he doesn't use it. MangekyoSasuke (talk) 02:20, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, and when he actually uses it a chapter, the debut will be updated. Minato still hasn't really used his sesquipedalian loquaciously named jutsu, so the debut stays when it was mentioned. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:42, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

671 bijuu reunion.jpg
I am having troubles getting the Raw version of that one done. It seems there is a part left out in the middle. Do we just leave it now as it is or can somebody properly fix it? Noweeaboohoo (talk) 14:19, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Bit of both. If the raw you have has the middle missing and it looks too odd when you piece it together, then leave it.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 15:39, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, it was done and looks okay I think. Kokuō's horns are a bit off, but I guess that's not that big of a problem. Noweeaboohoo (talk) 17:59, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

So the chapter says
That their grandmother Kaguya is also Indra and Asura's mother. Even though it implies incest, if it's canon we should document it nonetheless, or not?--Elveonora (talk) 17:19, April 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * If it's true it's true and it will be mentioned as is. I will still sit here and wait for someone to tell me if it was true or not.--TheUltimate3 Allied Shinobi Forces Symbol.svg (talk) 17:30, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * The scan house that says "their mother" was not on top of their game this week. I saw grammatical errors in the translation as well. Seelentau just confirmed that there was no indication of that bing said in the raw. I can only imagine how semantics would break down trying to add a mom/grandma.--Cerez 365 ™Hyūga Symbol.svg(talk) 17:38, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * False alarm then. They should hire some better translator, the translation differs greatly from panda's this time--Elveonora (talk) 17:43, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

taken at face value
We were told before many times that the Rinnegan is a merger of Senju and Uchiha power. It's true that Ashura and Indra's chakras recreate the Rinnegan, but one shouldn't forget that their descendants, Senju and Uchiha also carry trace amounts/watered down versions of those chakras. Even Madara himself didn't deny the possibility that Obito may get Rinnegan one day, chapter 606. As Ashura and Indra both had halves of Hagoromo's chakra, their children did 25% and so on, it's never been lost completely. In theory the Rinnegan could be recreated with Kagami and Toka's cells as an example, only the likelihood the Rinnegan would be awoken is much lower. So claiming only those with directly Ashura and Indra's chakras get Rinnegan isn't entirely true, it should be noted that the probability is still there even in relatives.--Elveonora (talk) 10:24, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Obito's Rinnegan potential was explicitly stated to be because of the Senju cells Madara gave him. He even says in that chapter that half of Obito's body is made from Hashirama's cells. I think you're looking at things from too much of a real world perspective. The manga states that Indra inherited one aspect of the Sage's power, while Ashura inherited another. In reality their wouldn't be such a clear and definite split, in reality their children could theoretically end up with some of the traits their fathers don't possess, but that's not the case here. Only those who have inherited those powers have the genetic capability to unlock those abilities. Furthermore I would argue that the Senju aspect of the power is actually only carried by those who actually possess Ashura's chakra itself (Hashirama and Naruto). Everyone who has tried to gain some of that power has always gone to Hashirama, not his brother, granddaughter or anyone else, only the one person with Wood Release. So canonically there's really nothing to suggest that any other relative has the some chance of achieving that power.--Soul reaper (talk) 12:18, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * The reason why Hashirama's cells were heavily researched was because of his ability to influence Tailed Beasts, not Ashura's chakra which 99,99% of population doesn't even have an idea about. Chakra is obviously hereditary to some extent, even more so now that it's been suggested chakra itself is responsible for genetic/physical traits. And again, Madara himself said that the Rinnegan is a merger of Senju and Uchiha powers, not just of Ashura and Indra's chakras and suggested Obito may or may not get it. That's because all Senju and Uchiha have had leftover traits from those chakras. The likelihood has just gotten lower with each passing generation, but it's still there.--Elveonora (talk) 14:15, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Na, you're wrong. Seelentau 愛議 16:28, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
 * Rinnegan requires Asura's and Indra's chakra, 671 made that very clear. The Senju and Uchiha powers that other characters know about ultimately comes from Madara from reading the Uchiha tablet. He's either withholding information from the tablet, or Hagoromo's extremely pompous language gave leeway to misinterpretation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:00, April 6, 2014 (UTC)