Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-142748-20160320061845

Rachin123 wrote: @Super First off please stop cussing. I know it isn't at me but I'm not real cool with it being used to describe something when talking to me. I said what I said. I want to respond on some of your examples because I can elaborate and correct on some things but frankly I would more rather leave it be as I'm getting bored on the subject so this is farewell. I'm used to cussing in debates, they're generally okay unless you're insulting someone. What to elaborate or correct, those feats are valid and you'd have to make a lot of mental gymnastics to say they're incorrect. Hashirama isn't the same caliber of opponent that Juubi Jin Madara or Kaguya were, thus saying that Naruto and Sasuke would have trouble with him since they couldn't defeat the latter two on their own isn't an argument.

MlGshinobi wrote: Naruto and sasuke never kicked madara's ass. In fact, they failed to stop him from escaping and once he came back he fully distracted them with limbo clones and chibaku tensi. Both Naruto and Sasuke cut Madara in half, the former even got a beating on top of it. Naruto and Sasuke effortlessly dealt with his Limbo and Chibaku Tensei. The reason why he used so many distractions and resorted to Infinte Tsukuyomi is because he couldn't defeat them. He ran scared. Naruto and sasuke needed help from the alliance and kages to beat obito,  and even that was plot armor because they didn't have hagoromo seals. ...what does that part have to do with the topic? Adult Naruto and Sasuke are so much stronger than their pre-Hagoromo selves its not even worth a mention. Naruto and sasuke defeated kaguya by touching her thanks to the seals which required the help of kakashi and sakura. Kaguya is battle inexperienced and not the smartest either. Hashriama has battle experience, and massive battle experience at that. Sasuke and naruto only " surpassedd" hashirama and madara after their hax power ups and not a second before. Sasuke went from being unable to beat a blind madarato being able to slaughter hashriama? I don't think so Except from feats, Sasuke can slaughter Hashirama. Quite easily. Sasuke doesn't have a lot of battle experience as an Adult? Bias much? And you don't put 'surpassed' in quotes when the manga flat out says both are stronger than Hashirama and Madara and by a quite a bit amount.

Hashirama isn't the same caliber as Kaguya or any Juubi Jin, why put him AT that level?