Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26537507-20151003105148/@comment-734582-20151007191042

LoneNinja wrote: @Rage actually no. If they go in it with their own mindsets then it'd be team vs team, they wouldn't all team up on Neji and Sasuke just because, there's no reason they would, so you're argument is beyond flawed. Just because they know they have to kill each other, does not mean they have the ability to do so. Think of it as the Bloody Mist graduation Exams. How Zabuza said, how you become friends with everyone and then have to kill them, and how it takes its toll. I refuse to read the entire text wall. However, i believe the question of just how genre savvy everyone is, is a legitimate one. or simply put:

Just how realistic are we gonna play this out, and how far do we "force" this. I mean in a 100% realistic case they'd all just walk out together, so there needs to be some sort of forcing factor. If we include whether people are actually capable of Killing, Naruto does not really stand a very good chance. Sasuke and Neji do. Do we toss them in a circle Hunger Games style, or do we do it like the Chunin Exams where they enter through separate gates, so search and target picking are part of it. It would hugely influence how people like Kiba and Shino could survive, even against people like Naruto.

Teaming up is a real thing, as i mentioned earlier. It's far likelier that we'd see the individual teams go against each other, including with Neji and Sasuke, rather than a free-for-all. It would also benefit people that could backstab, including Shikamaru, Sasuke and Neji, and would make it a lot more difficult for the naive people (again: including Naruto).

So i guess we need somewhat clearer rules to make more sense out of this, considering Naruto's main weakness is his naive and idiotic nature (susceptible to being picked off, backstabbed or outmaneuvered), Kiba's team is mostly a tracking rather than fighting team (nigh-perfect information in this fight, able to pick off whatever team they like with traps etc), and tenten's ability to basically indefinitely sustain her team are either very important or nigh-useless.

Curse of Hatred wrote: That's pretty much what he said in the part of his post you missed out... No. We can either assume everyone becomes a killing machine (out of character) or we assume that everyone plays according to their character but can't leave without killing. So, in-character someone like Hinata would not be able to kill anyone even if it killer her, whereas the "brainwash" scenario she would be a force to be reckoned with. because of the variety in the Konoha 12 (isn't it 12 if sasukes there?), the starting conditions heavily influence the outcome of the battle.

Don't forget that Naruto, who everyone seems to see as a ninja god even in part 1, was caught off guard when he went to pee. He's extremely vulnerable to people that know how to trap and exploit.