Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-36019309-20190114073523/@comment-35409024-20190125104936

Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

Ok no one's berating you or calling you the creator or anything close to that, so you can stop right here and not call anyone the same.... I stated why. I don't pretend to be the creator. The current Bee isn't the same Bee who fought Itachi years prior. That's what i meant when I say I ain't the creator like some of you think. You guys just spout things without really knowing. Do you know if Bee is the same? Do you have a direct quote or a case from Kishimoto that says/or shows Bee is still clueless when it comes too Genjutsu?
 * Killer Bee couldn't break basic genjutsu so i'm surprised that you find it hard to comprehend the fact that Tsukuyomi would be impossible for him to break at this point...

Man you ignored the last part of this section of my comment, an 'Elite' can't break tsukuyomi under any and all circumstance just because the creator said so..i know his statements are golden but you're just lazily accepting everything word for word here. Now we got your point on the data book and author stating this and that. So now does this mean Itachi can solo fricking kaguya, Nagato, Hashirama etc with tsukuyomi? i mean they don't possess a sharingan as you, itachi and the author said (rinnesharingan is completely different)....sounds stupid doesn't it. No your twisting what I said. I clearly said at the time Kishimoto said that, Elite Uchihas were the only ones capable of doing it. At that time. Meaning, the only people who could break it up to chapter 244, were Elite Uchiha. Which is why I said I won't say who can or cannot unless it comes from Kishimoto himself or the series itself. Nice try.

The speed of Tsukuyomi wasn't mentioned in the databook because it's inconsistent and for Itachi to control, the novel is proof of this. The Japanese coloured version of the manga has Asuma saying "as soon as itachi finished speaking Kakashi dropped"..and it has Kakashi saying that that it was only a "moment" that passed (focus on words with quotation marks)....what proof do you have? A moment is just a brief period of time. It can be anything from instant to a minute. So that doesn't prove your case. Also, this shows everything we need to know A Viz scan. Only a second had passed. So it isn't instant. Then you also have Sasuke screaming while in Tsukuyomi a few chapters after that.