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DBS?
Do you have any clue how long it will be? Like a 100+ eps or what? --Hisana456 (talk) 08:02, September 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I've heard, it is getting good reception ^_^ Aaaannnnddd, how's life? I barely see on Chat :/ --Hisana456 (talk) 14:22, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

B-)
Can you close this, for obvious reasons, when you find the time?--Omojuze (talk) 16:21, September 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not white, but still hype!!!--Omojuze (talk) 13:03, September 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you come to chat real quick. There's this troll and there's no chat mod there, ironically. >.< --Omojuze (talk) 19:33, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * --Omojuze (talk) 12:45, September 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hope this doesn't spoiler too much.--Omojuze (talk) 21:50, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Chat?
Now? Norleon (talk) 22:04, September 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, do you think we could meet today again? :) Norleon (talk) 04:50, October 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm, either right now or tomorrow, I'm going out later :/ Norleon (talk) 08:48, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Hi ^_^
Sure, why not? :) — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 22:56, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

RE: X)
All according to my plan, next step Sysop :P --Sarutobii2 (talk) 05:26, September 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Gotta love chat sometimes :/ --Sarutobii2 (talk) 22:15, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ocotober
Windy http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-04/sukima-switch-kanikapila-perform-new-naruto-shippuden-theme-songs/.92489 Akame_of_the_Demon_Sword_Murasame 村雨(Talk)   18:53, September 4, 2015 (UTC) I know you do but I'd get the info for October before anybody in this wiki So those 2 bands are doing OP and ED for October Akame_of_the_Demon_Sword_Murasame 村雨(Talk)   18:59, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hachimon OVO no Jin
--Jizo 悟 (talk) 02:57, September 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Was browsing through some old archives, found this:

My, how the times have changed...peasant. --Jizo 悟 (talk) 05:57, September 6, 2015 (UTC) http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/6/6c/Xd.png

Chart Template
Hi. Is it possible to add the Chart Template here? It would be interesting to have some family trees, maybe a page about it... I have some ideas. Narsha (talk) 19:02, September 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, those. I'll contact Dantman first, thanks. If he gives an okay, I'll bring it to the community to approval. Narsha (talk) 19:50, September 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Dantman replied. I made this edit to show you what I wish to do, somehow... of course it need to improve. The boxes and lines were made by me using the codes of the Chart Template (in another wikia). I used the characters that are below their respective trees as titles. The trees are more to show in-laws relationships since the infoboxes only show direct blood relationships and lovers. What do you think about it? Is it a good idea or is it better to stop? And, if I start a community discussion about it, what is the place? Clans' talk page or the forum? Thanks for your help and sorry for taking your time. Narsha (talk) 20:48, September 10, 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree with Dantman. One way it could be implemented is by creating a tree for each non-trivial clan and adding it to each member of the clan (~30 trees I guess). Thats the way most wikis implement the family tree.
 * But imo, The relations don't really grow very complex in naruto like say in a novel series like ASOIAF. The infobox already lists all the important relations that the reader would be interested in. Its too much work for too little return.--~Ultimate Supreme  06:19, September 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * I see. Thank you, WindStar. Narsha (talk) 17:26, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Pic
From yesterday's episode.--Omojuze (talk) 04:38, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course. But I'm still hoping for that Naruto online game to be playable outside of China first. I doubt that it means three new games and, if we indeed get at least one, we'll get one of the three, and get a vote, just like people voted on the word "STORM"--Omojuze (talk) 04:43, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Best guess would be: not enough time to implement the system. They are shooting for a lot: Kaguya on her own should be pretty hard to implement, given her battlefield change ability. Also, wall climbing as well.--Omojuze (talk) 04:48, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh that's what I forgot!! Yes, not it does :D To answer your previous question, not this year.. I'm moving to Denmark next year, off to school, if I make it that is, and even If I won't, I'm still leaving, so... Maybe some time in the future, but I hope I find a way to at least try it out. Also, ignore my grammar please... I'm sick as a horse >.<--Omojuze (talk) 21:24, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Trust me, my immune system is complete and total garbage, so I probably won't feel great in like a week or so, but thanks anyways :) I won't even try it on my PC, the baby has gone through a lot, don't want to overwork it, it's barely hanging on as it is >.< I am planning on buying a gaming laptop, for studies (just for more memory space :D), though I doubt I'll be able to play it on there, but I might try. And I believe you, Xenoverse looks gorgeous, when I see that game I think to myself - why am I not liking DBZ as much as I used to back in the day?!! >.<--Omojuze (talk) 21:33, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * The first 30 min. or so, something came up and I had to go somewhere, and I kinda forgot >.< I'll watch it from the start either later today or tomorrow, if I'll be able (There's a town festival tomorrow (sorta like a fair, but not really), so I might go If I'll have energy :D) k? We can discuss all of its flaws then. >_<--Omojuze (talk) 21:48, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not gonna lie, like it a lot ;p Though I'd prefer an overhaul in the sense of "grammar correction" to be the top priority :) "Shorten articles" as well.--Omojuze (talk) 16:38, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah, literally, grammatical errors: wrong tenses, words, etc.. Stuff like that. Yagura's article, for me at least, is what most articles should look :)--Omojuze (talk) 16:46, September 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * The mario & luigi references are too real !! x_x. The hype is so real, though. !!! >.<--Omojuze (talk) 04:26, October 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure I'm not the only one who thought of that :D Uchiha were given fanservice at its finest!! I wish we'd get another character, like Rin/Shisui/Kushina. Though I wished for Chojuro and Kurotsuchi for quite a while now >.< (THEY ARE KAGE, MAKE 'EM PLAYABLE, NOT SUPPORT ONLY!! *raises fist in rage*)--Omojuze (talk) 04:33, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Novels
Are they canon?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 23:56, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Members
Done, and you won't be relinquished for your rank ^_^ — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 20:49, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Profile pics (again)
He needs every comfort possible when facing the Boruto movie villains after all! xD Norleon (talk) 05:59, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Avatar
Im glad it gets your approval, and that user must of made a impression on you if you still remember him despite being inactive for 2 years XD. PS: you like One Piece? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 12:08, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't let your dreams be dreams, just DO IT. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 19:56, October 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * Old school yugioh is the best :D --Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:42, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Dragon Universe Wiki
Hello Windstar, now that Naruto is over, im moving on to other wikis and see that your a sysop on the dbu wiki. I would like to casually edit there but don't know where to begin. Any suggestions? --Sarada Uzumaki (talk) 13:42, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Could you direct me to it?
I usually have a hard time finding those wikia helpers haha^^ GodlyHades (talk) 01:47, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Image
Hey you think it's okay if I try and upload this from the Naruto spanish wikia of Sakura beating up a bunch of Ten-Tails clones? For some reason, I feel like there's gonna be some kind of issue regarding the image policy if I upload this, so I wanted to see if I could get your okay or not.--SSJ2AJB (talk) 00:57, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks. Also with the DBS Champa Arc, it's actually a bit interesting so far. It's as comedy-based as it is action, like how funny it was to see Beerus and Champa fighting over sweets. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 01:17, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Know what you mean lol. I'm kinda looking forward to this tournament, though I wish Gohan could participate. He kept going from being badass to bookworm since this whole started. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 01:27, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah they really downgraded Gohan's abilities over the years. He was my favorite character too (and still is). At least they finally made him a Super Saiyan 4. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 01:47, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think that's with Android #18 absorbed. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 01:58, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd flip out if they start handing out SS4 and SSGSS forms to every Saiyan out there. Though at the same, I'd hope to play as one of them in the video games. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 02:15, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Nah, I kinda lost interest in DBZ games after the Raging Blast series, though I do watch the gameplays of Xenoverse sometimes. I miss gameplay elements like beam struggles or physical clashes, which is pretty much why I still like playing the Budokai/ Budokai Tenkaichi series. What about you? --SSJ2AJB (talk) 02:32, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Exactly! I've been hoping for a long time they would make a BT4 or Raging Blast 3, especially the latter because just two games in a series just feels empty to me. The current games: yeah they're good, but not enough to top the BT series. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 02:52, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Though the story mode of Xenoverse is pretty cool. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 02:53, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah lol. I didn't really mind replaying the story over and over (in fact I loved it, since each game had better gameplay than the last). But nice that there was finally some originality in the game instead of in the anime series. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 03:00, December 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * True that. --SSJ2AJB (talk) 04:01, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Star Wars: The Force
I would say yes, but regrettably I haven't done serious in depth study (yes I said study lol) of Star Wars in quite some time. But yes I am quite a big Star Wars fan who plans to see the Episode 7 tomorrow night (Thursday).--TheUltimate3 (talk) 02:35, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * After having watched Episode 7, yeah the movie is fine. It is not without minor issues from me but overall it is my new top Star Wars movie (For the record: 7, 3, 5, 4, 6, 1, 2). They did not use George Lucas' script, and I think Abrams rewrote the new script from scratch so overall it's a great film.
 * My opinion of the Prequels are that they are not nearly as terribad as the overwhelming majority of Star Wars fans believe them to be. That is not to say they are necessarily great as a whole. The dialogue is super weak, the plot is unfocused, and the characters are for the most part forgettable and this relates back to the last point about the plot. But as I stated before, Episode 3 was my favorite Star Wars film until this one, because despite all of that, I came out of the theater having super enjoyed it. It also helps that I was 9 when the Prequels started and 15 when they ended so I was quite literally the target audience for it, as opposed to the 30-40(?) year olds who were the target audience when the films first came out. That being said, I understand a lot of the issues the Prequels, as I mentioned above and they are not unfounded. The Dialogue is super weak, and laughably bad, the plot was super unfocused because a large part of it dealt with "Big Picture" things as opposed to the more character focus of the Original Trilogy. And I am happy to say that Episode 7 does this correctly, a greater focus is on Character development, not Plot Development. There is a difference. Overall, had the Prequels had the exact same plot, but a director who had someone rewrite his script so the characters talked like actual people and had the story revolve around character and not Grand Scope politics game, they would have been fine I wouldn't have to say "I like the Prequels" in hushed voices.
 * And finally, I loved both Clone Wars series. Ahsoka was a bit grating at first, she seemed like the snarky kid they add to the movie who things they are a way bigger deal than they actually are, but always seem to come out right in the end for like the first season, before adjusting it actually felt like she was the student learning under a master. And the Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars cartoon showed General Grevious as he should have been in Episode III and the 3D Clone Wars so that'll always be up there in my book.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 13:00, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * My favorite parts are really the ones where other people are the focus and not Obi-Wan or Anakin. Ahsoka really started to shine after I think after season 2, so episodes that tended to focus on her were very enjoyable. Episodes that also dealt with the actual war and not some strange Sith plot where also really high on my list as were things involving the Clones. But hands down, the duel between Darth Sidious vs Maul and Savage Opress was the best lightsaber duel in all forms of media.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 11:53, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Input
Would you mind putting your input on Sasuke's talkpage for my suggested image to replace or not replace the current infobox image, thanks. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:14, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

DBU wiki
What happened? :/ 08:44, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Chōchō's pic
Hey, I'd like to get your opinion on this of Chōchō I uploaded from the movie. I don't have any special image software, but this was the best I could do quality-wise. What do you think of this as an infobox pic? --SSJ2AJB (talk) 00:39, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Rasengan Energy Wave
Hey, Windy, I tried uploading the Rasengan as an energy wave, you know, from The Last, but it's telling me it's on some kind of "blacklist"? What do I do about that?—Mina Țepeș 00:07, January 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, I figured, it's a Narutopedia issue, so I'd contact you on the actual wiki the problem is related to. Dragon Universe problems go there, Narutopedia problems here. And yes, it says it's on the "blacklist". Here, you're free to try.—Mina Țepeș Two Star.png 06:30, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thread Input
Can you put your opinion on this thread? It's an important discussion and affects the wiki at large. --Rai 水 (talk) 19:29, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

RE: picture request
There's no decent angle of the transformation but i uploaded it. At least something good came from that episode lol. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:05, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

Novels
A while back, I was told the novels were non-canon. Now I see them integrated to articles. What changed?Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:28, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Cause someone told me anime is an extension of the manga, don't ask who I can't recall.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:32, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, stuff from the anime got integrated to the manga. That's why I say fillers automatically being non-canon is far-fetched.
 * Raiga and his twin swords Kiba.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:37, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright I see your point. But the novels do a good job of explaining some of the gaps. IMO kishi should just say they're canon.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 01:42, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Wait a sec, Kishimoto illustrated the Shiden books. That would make them canon since he had direct involvement with the novels.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 07:34, February 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh I get it.Cloudtheavenger (talk) 22:40, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

QuakingStar flaming again
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:195237#188 Since you don't have the hotlink anymore, here's the topic.--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 01:48, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Not flaming. You are being an *******. I said you hate Itachi and are a Minato fanboy, chillout, and I'm ignoring you. HOW did that hurt your feelings?? is this kindergarten now?? QuakingStar (talk) 01:51, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, that thread got sh!tty real fast. Personally, I'd block both of you if it were up to me (but it's not any longer). You've let your arguments literally get everywhere on the wiki, whether it be article talkpages, articles themselves, my talkpage, the sysop requests page, the forums, and your own talkpages.
 * Jeez you guys, this is a fictional series. We're not curing cancer here. Getting defensive over the representations of your own favorite characters isn't going to help them in any capacity because they aren't real. 03:36, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I feel soooo good about my life right now.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 05:14, February 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * I tried keeping the two calm but they wanted to continue to be at each other's throats. --Rai 水 (talk) 05:30, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

Highlight
Can you highlight this thread for me? --Rai 水 (talk) 03:16, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re: I feel soooo good about my life right now
I fell off Rebels for some reason, but I do still watch it. The change in design doesn't bother me that much, mainly because I know the overall design of the show is different. That being said, I highly doubt the show will end with them dying. Maybe they just get assigned to some backass part of the galaxy, but death? Doubtful.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:54, February 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * I've been in my house playing WoW and Estival Versus thinking to myself was forgetting something. Now I remember that show. Good show! Time to watch.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 18:34, April 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * I actually fell off of the comics during Vader Down. Not because it was bad, I thought it was very very good. But work got bad I fell off all of my comic books. That said, I only really read Darth Vader, but I need to start the other comics at some point.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 18:39, April 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * No but I did just purchase Episode 7 so I'm watching that lol.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 19:16, April 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh no, JJ Abrams admitted that they basically redid Episode 4 so to "get the fans back with something familiar". Personally I think it was a cop-out. It was the ultimate admittance that they were banking the entirety of the new trilogy on nostalgia. That said, the result was still the best Star Wars movie they've made (My order is now 7, 3, 5, 6, 5, 4, 1, 2) but it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth. However Rogue One has me hopeful that they can write good interesting stories without just being a rehash of a original trilogy film.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 11:21, April 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * We won't know until it's out but I'm going to assume way after, as Rebels takes place I think at least 4 or so years before A New Hope while Rogue One takes place at most weeks before A New Hope. Also I really hope they don't try to Michael Jackson and Tupac Tarkin. Just get the guy who played him in Episode III. That guy was fine.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 23:04, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * May the 4th be with you as well.--TheUltimate3 Akimichi Symbol.svg (talk) 17:16, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Enjoy. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:12, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

re: admin/sysop
Interestingly, when I first started using Wikia long ago, I always used the term "admin" and never sysop. Over the years though, my opinion changed, primarily because of the fact that I'd been administrating internet forums alongside the odd Wikia contribution: due to the differences between the admin of a wiki and the admin of a forum, I began to adopt the technical (and more accurate) word "sysop" for those who had the sysop flag on a wiki (simply because the user group at the core code level of MediaWiki calls it "sysop", not admin, though the front end text can be changed) and adopted "admin" exclusively for use on non-wiki sites. This is because an admin on a forum has a lot of control over the site that a sysop on a wiki does not. Below I go into detail about two main reasons why I do this.

The main reason for my decision to use the word "sysop" is mainly because it's generally accepted that a hierarchy exists on an internet forum, because you "earn your way" to becoming a moderator or administrator of a forum and it is MUCH harder to revert rogue moderator actions (you can do it, but there is no "quick way" like you can with wiki edits). On forums, there are no "bots" and there's no way to automate the reversion of rogue moderator actions, which means other moderators and administrators must manually look through the moderator logs and go through every single action and revert them, which is VERY time consuming: in a wiki environment, a user need only set up a bot (giving it the bot flag) and revert the bad contributions, without anyone noticing that anything happened.

The other main reason for my decision is that rights on a wiki are less dangerous than they are in a forum environment. If I were to give someone the sysop flag on a wiki, then it's easy for me to take that way quickly or even to revert bad edits they've made (even easier if they vandalise community JS due to the JS Review Tool blocking any attempts to add malicious code there). But in a forum environment, it is much harder to deal with rogue administrators, as a rogue admin with the wrong administrator permissions set on their account for the forum's Admin Control Panel, can cause a LOT of damage (an example of something that a rogue forum admin could do is change the URL and cookie settings, essentially making the whole forum unusable to every forum member without a database backup, which will lose posts if the backup is not recent). A rogue sysop on a wiki doesn't have anywhere close to this level of access to harm a wiki, because MediaWiki has no "admin control panel" to automate the changes, so unless they've got FTP or cPanel access to the localsettings.php file, they cannot harm the wiki in the way that a rogue forum admin could, making a sysop's bad actions simpler to revert.

I hope this explains everything about why I use sysop on a wiki and not the word admin. Feel free to post on my talkpage if you have further queries or questions! :D --SuperSajuuk (talk) 20:51, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually some wiki's on Wikia do allow bureaucrats to grant bot flag (but it's extremely rare, the only known case I know of is the Runescape Wiki). The default action is to allow bureaucrats to remove the bot flag (but not grant) from bad bots, but not many wiki's have this (the wiki's which don't either requested that feature to be removed, or Wikia Staff took it away due to abuse, or the wiki is bugged).
 * You would be correct in saying that Wikia Staff are the administrators (in essence like a forum admin) of the service. While forum admins can each be limited in what they can do (through admin perms, which limits what features they've got access to (most admins tend to just have forums, users and groups rights, only the "super admins" tend to have every other feature), limiting abuse and rogue admins breaking the site), Wikia Staff have essentially full control of every wiki.
 * I think the reason a lot of users tend to call the sysops "admins" is because either they don't understand that sysops don't actually have full access to things, or because Wikia Staff repeatedly call them "admins" so that Staff don't need to get involved when a sysop is doing things that aren't in the best interests of the wiki. Both are just as bad as each other and does not help when you try to explain that a sysop is just a regular user with some extra buttons and doesn't have a lot of additional access: whereas an admin on a forum could quite easily do what they want without anyone noticing (the only users who would notice if an admin is abusing their position is if another admin with the right access can view the admin and mod logs, which non-admins cannot view: different on a wiki where the community can see everything as it's publically logged). --SuperSajuuk (talk) 21:26, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * I realised that I failed to mention one difference between admins and sysops. When a sysop "blocks" a user from the wiki, all they do is revoke editing abilities, but the user can still read everything (so they can still watch on and laugh when a wiki is going downhill): but a "ban" enacted by a forum moderator revokes "everything" (you can't even view the site and some forums even remove the ability to log out to prevent the user socking the ban, though the level of what is revoked by the ban is customisable by forum administrators).
 * Don't worry about forgetting, it's easy to do when so many wiki's are just the same generic setup with limited customisation. :p --SuperSajuuk (talk) 21:33, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, you are completely correct. A lot of terminology that is used on "forums" are usually confused on a wiki, so when someone "blocks" you on a wiki, people take it the wrong way and think it's more harsh than it really is, when in reality, a block on a wiki is just saying "stop editing, but read the wiki anyway". On a forum, it's a "we don't want you back here and we don't want you reading anything we post, piss off" type notice :p --SuperSajuuk (talk) 21:38, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, though the implementations that exist for some forum software (thinking vBulletin 3.x here) aren't that great and they don't always work since clearing cookies causes you to get logged out anyway (the only method that would work is to have a system where the notice appears regardless of the user being logged in or not, ie not setting a cookie, which is difficult to pull off without such things being intercepted with an adblocker).
 * The only way it could be done is if Wikia made every wiki use it's own user database, rather than an SSO hacky solution so that one account works everywhere (and in which causes blocks to be completely pointless in general). --SuperSajuuk (talk) 21:54, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * I did see that discussion come up a lot of times on Central Wiki (and even on the Wikia Community discord server), but luckily for me, I don't see it since ad blocker is necessary for me to actually use the Internet with my 3mbps connection :p (though despite that, I absolutely abhor ads being placed in the middle of content, it's just dumb as that isn't what content is for).
 * And yes, the fandom nonsense is bullshit and I CSS'd it off my experience the minute I saw it. I like my Wikia experience pre-global navigation nonsense :p --SuperSajuuk (talk) 22:14, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Favour
Hey Windy, long time no see. May I ask you a favor: I intend to use your ideas and words of policy and template design in Dragon Universe Wiki adapted into my new founded wikia. Would you mind, by courtesy. --SUIV (talk) 17:08, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. How's it going with you? You seem to enjoy RL so well, I suppose. --SUIV (talk) 11:38, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Sharingan
I thought someone might think that :P You should keep up to date with the anime, it's not too bad :P --Sarutobii2 (talk) 20:16, April 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Its a pretty good short filler since its mostly canon events, compared to a shitty made up story. Haven't had a chance to watch any at all yet, but from what i heard, Guy vs Madara is the best fight in the whole game. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 06:52, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Curious
Chapter 490, when Naruto, Fukasaku, Gamamaru, and Gerotora are talking about Naruto using the Nine-Tails' chakra. When they talk about the hatred latching onto Naruto, there's a panel of Version 1 jinchuriki form Naruto, you can count five tails. I don't know if this was changed in the volume release, but I don't think it was. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:32, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Some advice
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hiden:_Hiding_in_Scale_Powder_Technique what about this example? how come the literal english section was shown unlike some of them? Kunoichi101 (talk) 22:59, April 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * ok, stand corrected, the actual question is this, how come the literal english was shown despite it was the same as the title? Kunoichi101 (talk) 23:20, April 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * yet again, stand corrected. does this mean we just have to remove the literal english name section and let the article title says so or leave it be Kunoichi101 (talk) 23:43, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

Jpg files
I remember you linking me to images that were jpg. Can you link me to those. I want to see what needs replacing to png. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:05, May 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * It was on chat and we were talking about stuff. One thing led to another and images cane up and you shows the link to your subpage. But, yes, the link you left me on my talkpage is the one I'm talking about. Amd yes it is alot of images but it helps the some of them are unused and need to be deleted. Sysops not doing their jobs. Smh. --Rai 水 (talk) 04:17, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Talkpage Input
If you could add your thoughts to what you think on this and this, I'd appreciate it. --Rai 水 (talk) 23:20, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

re: restore
Main reason behind this edit was to ensure that the page was using the last good version before Mandon vandalised the page so that it could be improved upon from that previous version. Just in case anything had been missed ;) --Sajuuk

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Nico Robin? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 17:40, June 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * I could of sworn that you said not long ago you hadn't read OnePiece yet, or did you pick it up recently? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 02:30, July 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well that escalated lmao. I did somewhat the same, having watched some of OP as a kid, then i randomly started reading the manga when the Impel Down arc began, and i've been reading it weekly ever since. It's a nice difference from the Naruto manga, but the same can't be said about the OP anime, which for the most part is horrible ever since its nearly caught up with the manga. My only annoyance about the manga is that Oda (the author) is constantly taking breaks. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 07:27, July 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not just the OP filler, its the canon eps as well. They use to cover like 2-4 chapters each ep, but the anime these days only ever does like 1 chapter of content max and drags it out as much as possible. 100% agree with OP having great character development, and the focus is well divided on a multitude of characters aside from the main characters. But i think what i love more in OP than in Naruto, is the mystery. All Naruto had was who's under Tobi's mask, is Minato Naruto's father and the Sage of Six Paths, as opposed to OP having the void century, poneglyphs, the will of D, devil fruit's etc etc. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 09:29, July 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Op is defo gonna have 1000 chapters. According to one of its editors, the time skip (ch597) was half way through the story and as of ch794, the story is around 70% complete. I haven't seen/remember any plot holes in OP aside from Mr. 3 floating on water at 1 point. The set up for things is crazy in OP. Like Jinbe's character and Sanji birthplace were established early on in the story, and hundreds of chapters later it comes to light. Crazy stuff ay. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 18:57, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

O.o
'Grats for being randomly promoted to sysop I guess... (Not upset or anything (because I don't really care, just surprised) --Sajuuk 13:09, July 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * lol, now we have 3 forum operators... bit excessive, honestly it would be better if it was just you and Saru doing it all... --Sajuuk 10:20, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * lol, am I that predictable? XD
 * But it's true, I don't know why Jizo got sysopped in the first place given his relative non-existence on the wiki as a whole, he barely edits the main wiki and the most he does in the forums is randomly close a thread once a month...
 * You and Saru are more active than him, even before you were all sysopped. And now you've been sysopped... --Sajuuk 10:24, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * lol
 * Well I'd say you were more active than Jizo has ever been. ;)
 * Of course, I suspected you were resigning because of having too many wiki's to manage.
 * There is one thing I'd like to ask on chat, if you don't mind? It's nothing bad, it is wiki related (more related to user groups). :) --Sajuuk 10:38, July 21, 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha, editing on steroids. That's a new phrase for intensive editing. But I agree: even I don't even do "heavy editing" anymore, just content to do the odd revert/minor edit that nobody else plans on doing themselves.
 * It's ok about chat, I understand. Only thing I was going to ask is your thoughts on whether the wiki should employ the use of the Content Moderator flag for some users. --Sajuuk 11:00, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Sasuke
actually the part that is extraneous is the parts about Sasuke's relationship with Sakura and Itachi in his personality section. i see no problem with expounding on his motivations. however, i kind of left those sections because i didn't want to overwrite someone's hard work. -- Lalalalaigothis (talk) 03:19, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * I didnt think this was a corrupt system, but apparently it is. --Lalalalaigothis (talk) 16:59, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * So tell me WindStar, do you disagree that giving a whole paragraph on a relationship does not pertain to the personality section? You never answered. A counterproductive edit, that adds citations and gives more details about Sasuke's actual personality? You know, his character, rather than just actions? Look son, you may be sysop but that doesn't mean you should abuse your powers. Just because someone's writing is a little more detailed does not mean that it isn't a good edit; in fact it takes the time to give a measured view of both strengths and weaknesses. Now you can get cute and write 'counterproductive edit' or you can show me where the lie is.
 * You still didn't answer me. How is an entire paragraph dedicated to Itachi and Sakura's relationship in Sasuke's personality 'summarizing and shortening content.'??
 * I don't know if you noticed, but I actually shortened certain areas and added more information in areas that were not fully explained. Information that pertains to an individuals' motivations are certainly relevant . This is a way to turn away new editors, honestly. The idea that the content is perfect as is and can't be improved upon, or only in minor ways. I am seriously disappointed as a first time user. Now I didn't know about the talk thing, I can look into that, but I'm talking to you now because you were the first one and last one on the page. Obviously I was just excited to contribute; in fact I put a couple hours worth of work into trying to flesh out that entire section. But if the only way you determine quality of content is brevity, instead of actual content and a true assessment of the character, well, that's sad. --Lalalalaigothis (talk) 18:13, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. You know I'm not going to give up. So you might as well speak. In fact, why don't you do your job as an administrator and go to the page you suggested I go to, and talk to me there.
 * Finally, let the record state that I never 'restored' my edits. Each and every single one of my edits was adjusted, and not the same as before. I'm taking this to a different administrator if need be. --Lalalalaigothis (talk) 18:13, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
 * BTW, I take back what I said about the corrupt system or whatever. You seem to be fair enough as well. It just really seemed to me like you were using your powers to keep everything the same, locking the page w.o explanation, which is not the case. I actually missed the "warring" part of the "counter productive edit" message. Also, I updated the talk page. Lalalalaigothis (talk) 00:57, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, just really briefly:
 * You make a good effort (Thank You!), but you also contradict yourself. You claim that the "nature of the wiki" is editing, yet you claim from the beginning that "the article explains personality just fine," meaning what exactly? That it's "just fine" so it shouldn't be touched? HOWEVER, the thing about multiple users, community not approving it, etc.,  3 times/12 hours, I understand.  British English, check.
 * Can I just ask, point blank - do you really think:
 * "Sasuke first met Sakura Haruno when they were children in the Academy, where his good looks caused her to become infatuated with him, which later grew into love. On his part, Sasuke was aware Sakura had feelings for him, but he showed no interest in her and considered her to be annoying. After they became team-mates, they began to interact more and acknowledge each other's strengths and weaknesses, causing Sasuke to think of her as someone he needs to protect. Despite feeling grateful of how much she is willing to do to make him happy, he still abandons the prospect of being with her to pursue revenge and defect Konoha."
 * is more relevant to Sasuke's nature than Sasuke's dream to protect people in the police force?
 * Also, the whole "incorrect citation" (Naruto 230, Page 7) thing? Did you look at the page? Kishimoto mentions so early on that Sasuke believes his left arm is as an instrument to climb into darkness. His chidori arm. That he lost. It's representative. I thought that was interesting... means Sasuke opting not to have his left arm replaced is probably no coincidence. I think Sasuke mentioned it directly in Shinden, but I'm still looking. What say you?
 * Question: As an admin, can you make judgement calls? i.e., when reverting becomes spiteful? Or are you just not about that around here? Lalalalaigothis (talk) 20:35, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Rasengan
I don't mind mentioning that he used it and it looks alike and for all intents and purposes it was the Rasengan, but I don't think he should be listed as a user (the same way that Hagoromo and Indro "used" Chidori apparently? This just underscores how shitty the anime really is. It ends up with us saying this person created it but then someone else used it, so he didn't really create it.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:21, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Also: chat.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 19:22, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Aye.--Cerez 365 ™(talk) 00:21, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Why exactly am I getting a warning?
Can you explain to me how mocking someone's argument is the same as insulting said person? Why am I getting a warning when I was mostly rebutting 8Gates' claims? All was fine until he came in and the first thing he did was insult everyone who agreed that Naruto and Sasuke would easily beat the four Hokages. Throughout the rest of the thread 8Gates continued to insult me and the time I mocked his arguments is when you came in and deemed that I was also making insults? What? I was only pointing out the flaws in his arguments and logic, how he was taking things out-of-context, how immature he was being, and how he was being a bit of a hypocrite. Sorry if I came out rude, but this seriously rubs me the wrong way--UltimaDude (talk) 23:37, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Asura
what do you mean by read background section. I dont see what the problem is --Bryson3234 (talk) 02:39, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Image and Revert Policies
For your information, 4th Six Paths replaced the original image without good reason, and with image that didn't improve article at all, so I mearly restored the original image. Also, 4th Six Paths, SuperSajuuk and Sarutobii2 changed the image of Indra's infobox without proper discussion, so if anyone should be reminded of the use of talk pages, it would be them. --JouXIII (talk) 00:37, July 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * sigh Fair enough, I guess... I'm just tired of people trying to put unnecessary changes in the articles. I have nothing against change itself, just unnecessary and stupid ones, and change of Indra's infobox image is very unnecessary. --JouXIII (talk) 01:09, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Indra
I'm just trying to make this clear, when I uploaded this file and put it on the Indra infobox I was trying to see if anybody would be okay with, but when JouXIII said that it was no good and took it off I didn't want to get into a big argument and agreed with him/her. But then suddenly other users liked the image and there was a big edit war (which wasn't my intention). Then I found a better image showing Indra without his Sharingan activated and since the wiki doesn't show the Uchiha memebers with there Sharingan activated I thought I put it on the infobox. But then JouXII gave a poor reason saying that it was "fugly" and that "it doesn't improve article at all". I'm okay with my image being taken off ONLY if there is a good reason.-- 4th Six Paths (talk) 02:15, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

As for what you just said I'll take that into consideration.-- 4th Six Paths (talk) 02:16, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Edit wars
Just so you know, JouXIII has a long history here of persistently edit warring and doing whatever he wants, not to mention persistently insulting other people's opinions in some veiled way to get his way. Apparently, me opposing his image on the talkpage means I have "something against Indra" or that I "don't care about the series", which is pretty funny.

In a number of instances, his edit summaries and attitude to editors are very similar to those displayed by Omojuze (and later under his new account of BerserkerPhantom). The edit warring is insane, because despite whatever we say, Jou just continues to restore his own edits, insulting users in the process through edit summaries. I don't know how this can be curbed without protecting pages he engages in disputes over or by blocking him for a time and getting him to learn to use article talkpages to deal with disputes. The former is not something that would really solve anything, other than harming the wiki as a whole, by preventing legitimate contributions. :/

Just thought you should know this, in case you weren't aware of the user's history. --Sajuuk 12:29, July 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Aye and I'm also of the opinion that page protections aren't always a way of solving problems, they're only a temporary "stop editing this page and discuss", but given how so few people are interested in using talkpages, page protection has become pretty pointless. --Sajuuk 15:54, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

wtf?
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Rasengan?diff=1174538&oldid=1174535 (last sentence) --Sajuuk 17:43, July 27, 2016 (UTC)