User talk:Seelentau

Something that has been bothering me...
The Truth-Seeking Balls not being listed as Senjutsu. I know you will tell me that "the databook did not say so" but here is my issue with that statement: The databook also did not list Mū as a user of Water Release either. But we added Water Release to him anyway regardless of the databook because of the Dustless Bewildering Cover, which was said in the manga to manipulate water. Well, the Truth-Seeking Balls were said to be made of natural energy, so what would be the issue with adding them as senjutsu and overruling the databook with the manga like we did with Mū? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 18:55, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Chapters 642-643, natural energy being the only thing able to damage and alter the natural energy of the TSB. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:05, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there were more statements. I don't get this wiki sometimes, something gets added but without proper referencing, then someone runs with eye through the article removing all unreferenced statements, potentially removing critical information, without bothering to check the validity of the statements instead.--Elve Talk Page 19:08, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seelentau, according to Naruto in chapter 643, two sources of natural energy colliding was what was able to damage/alter Obito and his attacks. That statement Naruto made was shown by Gamakichi's attack altering the Truth-Seeking Balls, and Naruto's Sage-enhanced Rasengan damaging Obito as the TT jinchūriki. We know that Naruto's Rasengan had natural energy from senjutsu chakra, and the TT's  was stated to be identical to natural energy, damaging Obito. In Gamakichi's case, his attack had natural energy to collide with the natural energy of the TSB to be able to damage/alter them, in order to prove Naruto's statement correct. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:22, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand, but I was not saying that, I was referring to Naruto's statement on how two sources of natural energy colliding is what caused the TSB to be damaged in the first place. Gamakichi's attack had natural energy, so... how about the TSB to confirm Naruto's statement? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:31, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was translated, that is why we removed Senjutsu as a classification for the TSB, because the databook did not list it there (but then again, what techniques were listed as senjutsu? Not even Jugo's techniques were either). And also, does the TSB article on this wikia state that they are made of the "Six Paths Sage chakra?" That chakra does not qualify as senjutsu chakra either?
 * -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:44, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Jin no Sho version 2
You said it was advertised on itunes or so, link?--Elve Talk Page 18:23, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Another question: is Kaguya or anything important colored in "illustration collection: naruto uzumaki" ? Thanks.--Elve Talk Page 22:41, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure you will ;)--Elve Talk Page 22:54, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

You sure it's version 2? If there aren't any changes, I wonder what makes it version 2 lol.--Elve Talk Page 23:09, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Choji still also lacks Earth Release I see.--Elve Talk Page 23:38, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Great! So if we are lucky, version 100 some years from now will be flawless.--Elve Talk Page 10:48, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Any update on the artbook?--Elve Talk Page 13:07, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully they will be up soon, I was wondering about Kaguya and stuff.--Elve Talk Page 13:50, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

I notice that FF-Suzaku doesn't have the whole Shinobi Compendium translated, with Tailed Beast stuff missing. Is that part available somewhere on NF?--Elve Talk Page 23:21, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. And well, it's not gonna translate itself :D If you ever get around to translating the rest, I will be grateful.--Elve Talk Page 23:34, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Would you seriously accept a donation? Also play less LoL.--Elve Talk Page 23:48, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

redirect suppression
Generally, if you're doing a page move on an article, it's not necessary to suppress the redirect. If you do decide to suppress a redirect though, please make sure to correct links so that the wiki's articles still point to the intended target. ~SnapperTo 18:23, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Uzumaki Daikan
I was going to make a table somewhere for the Japanese omnibuses (example) but the divisions they use aren't obvious from the page counts. Would you happen to know how the material is distributed amongst the eight volumes, or know of a website that lists it? ~SnapperTo 20:09, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Tailed Beast KKG and Jinchuuriki
So Gaara isn't listed as kekkei genkai user even though he was a jinchuuriki of Shukaku with Jinton. Roshi is listed as a kekkei genkai user, but he had Yoton on his own even without Son Goku, is that correct? What about the other jinchuuriki, like Han? Well, what I'm getting at is the thing about Naruto being listed as kekkei genkai user, which is assumed to be because of the TBs advanced natures, but Gaara isn't, so may it be possible that Naruto's kekkei genkai has nothing to do with the Tailed Beasts?--Elve Talk Page 22:34, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'm asking because while I was checking over at narutoforums, I saw some of the discussion you and others have and the wording about Roshi made it seem to me that he had had Yoton Kekkei Genkai even excluding Son Goku or so. You were once saying the same thing I believe.--Elve Talk Page 22:44, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thread:162053
For minor issues such as this, please to use a talk page or the requests page. A minor issue such as that does not really warrant an entire discussion thread, you know what I mean? I know the board is named "Wiki Discussions and Support Board," but that is for wiki-wide issues rather than issues that can be solved by one minor edit. Many thanks. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 23:38, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

opinion wanted
Can you weigh into this discussion?. Thanks. --Sajuuk talk 18:09, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

reading request
When you have the chance, could you type out the arc names listed here for me? I'd do it myself, but it would take me literally hours to look up all the kanji. You don't need to translate anything if you don't want to, just the Japanese would be great. ~SnapperTo 19:54, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

volume 72 tankobon
Got links? :P Would like to see the changes.--Elve Talk Page 20:54, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks bro.--Elve Talk Page 20:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * What the hell, two of the links require premium membership and the third which "doesn't" says that 'CAUTION! From your IP range the limit of connections is reached" even though I haven't downloaded anything yet. Could you upload the pages in particular which were changed? Interested in the redrawn Obito's death scene from volume 71, frontal Susanoo view from 72 among the two additional pages for 699, ty.--Elve Talk Page 21:16, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. If you find the reworked Obito's death scene let me know.--Elve Talk Page 21:31, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * "In volume 71, the scene where Obito is impaled by Kaguya's technique was completely redrawn from its initial release. In addition, some character reaction shots were also redrawn, as well as Kakashi's brief flashback being removed altogether."--Elve Talk Page 21:46, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

"Kisses" strange changes by the way.--Elve Talk Page 21:58, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * The additions make sense (should have been there in the first place) but the alternations are mostly just different angles. I think the Susanoo looked better from a side rather than front. And besides improved reactions from Sasuke and Kaguya, to me the Obito one seems redundant to have been redrawn from a different perspective since it also was fine, but shrugs, I ain't an artist.--Elve Talk Page 22:04, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

your behavior
Just saw the stuff from chat and I must 0_0 Just wondering, did you take any drugs or drink alcohol at the time?--Elve Talk Page 09:04, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Was also in the chat when that happened. Things got testy, I must say. Though Seelentau was not the only one throwing insults, so it's not all him. But I'm sure he'll notice Dantman's message. -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 09:16, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * So am I, but that was downright insulting. But oh well, it's your thing. I just prefer people with a single face.--Elve Talk Page 15:53, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Shikamaru Hiden
Yo senpai, I got it from ANN. I consider it as a reliable source for information. — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 15:37, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Cross Lariat
Could you add the kanji/rōmaji/kana? I suck with these Kumo jutsu that have Engrish names. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 17:48, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi senpai, just translate to me the titles of upcoming episodes to me. The first one is 極めし者 and the second is 逃走VS追跡 ... Thanks :) — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 13:43, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks senpai for clarification, you're right. They're not characters names. ^_^ — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 14:19, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode
Databook entry. Any way to give that another look? I don't wish to read through GodlyHades's examples again in our forum again, I've read through them on the Narutofan forum he linked the first time which basically stated "Yes the tailed beasts are part of it". Thank you.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 14:45, February 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * I can understand that. But I'd rather get it done and done instead of the back and forth. I probably should have been made clear, I'm aware mention of the tailed beasts wasn't in the section itself, but rather on the side; like a caption or something. In the forum post there was a disagreement because some states it was to blurry to read and others state that it wasn't and it stated "something something Sage and biju".--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 16:44, February 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Which part? The text too blurry to see or the "blah blah Sage biju"? >_> <_< --TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 18:40, February 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Got it. So remove the tailed beasts reference in the Sage Mode article then?--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō.svg (talk) 18:46, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Could you translate this?
http://i.imgur.com/s48cZNv.jpg

In full detail if possible? Thank you so much GodlyHades (talk) 20:27, February 12, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Your translations
Yeah, sure, as long as I'm credited. "Suzaku" without the "FF" is fine. FF-Suzaku (talk) 06:21, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Izanagi and YYR
Sorry for giving you another translation request, but does Jin no Sho explicitly call Izanagi Yin-Yang Release on this page? -- WindStar7125 (talk | contribs) 19:37, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

re: Tobirama's death
Tobirama died the same day Hiruzen had become the Sandaime. I don't think Saru was Team Sannin sensei yet at that point.--Elve Talk Page 18:15, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the Sannin fought in the 2nd. They were but little children during the 1st.--Elve Talk Page 18:27, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Considering they were overwhelmed from all sides and Tobirama despite being one of the strongest saw no chance of winning means that it was no small battle. The circumstances of it sound like world war. Maybe the early guidebooks specify in more detail.--Elve Talk Page 18:31, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

can it be deduced that
Moegi and Udon are grandchildren of Koharu and Homura respectively?--Elve Talk Page 19:56, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Rabbit Hair Needle
Does this jutsu's entry in the databook make any mention of using the hair to bind the target, or is it just the launching of hair? Current article says it does, but I think that the binding part is actually Hair Binding Technique. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:19, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Help in translation
Hello, can You please give me a translation about what's written in Temari's page of Retsu no sho databook , here is the link http://goo.gl/pjuAou , thank You so much --Abdidouche (talk) 15:40, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks :)--Abdidouche (talk) 16:56, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re : Help in translation
So you couldn't understand ?--Abdidouche (talk) 17:07, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you any way, if you have an other source in which you can read Retsu no sho , please give a translation for what is said about Temari. Thank you, have a nice day ^^ Abdidouche (talk) 18:31, February 18, 2015 (UTC)

Naruto and COAT
Hi. According to this edit, Jin no Sho states that Naruto can indeed use COAT, displayed through him healing Kakashi's eye. I read FF-Suzaku's translation, and I'm stuck in the middle. It kind of implies it, but doesn't overtly state it either. Do you think it is valid for this wiki to state that Naruto can indeed use COAT, or just an application of Yin-Yang Release? 22:07, February 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Bump.  17:42, February 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also asked FF-Suzaku about this, just letting you know. So Naruto using COAT is indeed invalid and he should be removed as a user? 18:01, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Can you translate pages from the Databook? No one did Naruto's character yet... GodlyHades (talk) 22:32, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Svgs
Hey, would you happen to know who does all the svg work around here? For infoboxes and such 00:32, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Eight Gates
Keeping it short: What's the difference between the Eight Gates Released Formation and the Gate of Death? Because on this very wiki, they're defined to do the exact same thing with the exact same aftereffects. 03:32, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Right. So opening the Eighth Gate is activating the Eight Gates Released Formation? That's what I interpreted from the link you gave me.  23:48, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, so opening the 8th gate is opening all 8 gates simultaneously. Alright thanks.
 * 00:42, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * "mmh, basically, yes. The state of having the 8th gate opened is that technique."
 * "That technique" is the 8 gates released formation, yes? To my understanding, the 8 gates released formation is opening all 8 gates simultaneously (at least, that's what the article and the link you gave me says).
 * 01:01, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I was wondering. Also, if it isn't simultaneous as you say, then this article has to be changed then.  01:12, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. ★   WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 21:17, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Asura and YYR
To answer your question, the fact that the databook says that YYR is exclusive to those touched by Hagoromo's power (which is why both Naruto and Sasuke have it), and the fact that Hagoromo said in the manga that he gave Asura power is why someone added Asura as a YYR user. 01:33, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * YYR was not mentioned in the manga. All that was mentioned was that in the manga, Hagoromo stated he gave Asura power. Whether that could be ninshu or something else, we don't know. In chapter 692, Hagoromo stated that he gave Asura power. The 4th databook stated that those touched by Hagoromo's power have YYR, hence Asura being classified as a YYR user here, along with Naruto and Sasuke.  01:47, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then I guess you should remove YYR from Asura's infobox and article then, since you've proven it's just an assumption. Also, does Indra have Yin and Asura have Yang? That's in their infoboxes as well.  01:59, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * ...I guess that might have to be removed as well (even though it does make perfect sense). Though I always thought Asura having YYR was a stretch, I've just never remembered to ask you.  02:03, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, forgot to ask: It's not a stretch to say that Asura has the TSB, is it? I mean, his chakra avatar definitely wasn't using Tailed Beasts Balls and he isn't confirmed to be a jinchūriki in the first place, so...  02:31, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think Hagoromo was talking about Ninshu but whatever. Hagoromo didn't give Naruto and Sasuke Ninshu, but actual power, so there would have been no point comparing that to giving Ashura leadership of Ninshu, unless he had given him power.--Elve Talk Page 19:12, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi senpai, just if you have time. Can you translate what's written in this image and what's talking about? Thanks — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 18:10, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Switched it up...
Block Log. ShikamaruIzumaki is the sockpuppet vandal inserting BS into articles (and therefore should be blocked infinitely), AquasProductions is the actual account (that should have the week block). 21:16, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Listing the retcons of DB1 by DB2
We know Hiruzen had some retcons in DB2. Manga clearly makes Naruto a fresh 12yr old when the series begins showing him before he is a Genin and the Chunin Exams started 3 weeks after the got back from the Zabuza fight, in July. We already know everyones birthdays from DB1 and DB2... So doesn't that mean that Kankuro, Neji, Tenten, and everyone else introduced in the Chunin Exams born before July's ages were definitely wrong in DB1? DB1 I'm starting to feel like is unreliable mostly.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:06, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

So I'm in brainfart mode so bare with me. Does that mean that DB1 shouldn't be relied on since it doesn't add up at all? It sounds like DB2 was made to also fix DB1s mistakes and continuity.. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:14, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

So basically all we can do is KNOW that they all became Genin at age 12 including Shino and Hinata, which was at the same time as Naruto, in manga. Then we know including Shino and Hinata they are all 13 at the end of Part 1 and Gai born Jan. 1st is 27 at the end of Part 1. So maybe part 1 lasted longer than we thought it did.. like the same length as Part 2 did? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:27, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Idek. Did you account for all this in the timeline? I don't remember ItachiWasAHero (talk) 21:57, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Mhmm. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 23:32, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Wait... that makes perfect sense actually.. Gaara is younger than Hinata then born January 19th. That means he was still 12 when Naruto turned 13, because otherwise he would of been 13 at his introduction in the chunin exams arc instead of 12. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 12:32, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

What I meant was that would make Gaara younger then Hinata. It would make what you said work. It would also make Gaara graduate the same year as Naruto's group. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:24, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, ok then. I guess you're right and again Kishi never put priority on his timeline then ItachiWasAHero (talk) 16:37, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Been meaning to ask this for a while
Why exactly did we translate Naruto's new ability he gained from Hagoromo as "Six Paths Sage Technique" and not "Six Paths Senjutsu?" ★  WS7125 [Mod] 00:32, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Uh... no we don't. Like, not at all. I don't think we do.  ★   WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 00:45, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mkay. Moving the page to "Six Paths Senjutsu" isn't out of line then? Because apparently, we don't translate senjutsu.  ★   WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 01:23, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * OK. ★   WS7125 [Mod]WindStar7125 Task.svgWindStar7125's Task.svg 01:43, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, I need a little translation help!
I'm working on a Naruto fanfic and I need a Japanese title to give to an enemy character reincarnated for the Fourth Shinobi World War. He's an Inuzuka who I called the 'White Wolf of Konoha', can I have a translation of that so I don't screw it up?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:20, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks See! Much appreciated!--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 20:00, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Can I have another bit of translation help so I can get this attack right? Its english is: Yang Release: Blades of Blood. Much thanks!--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 07:35, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

TSB and Expansive TSB
Oh yes, I forgot to ask, is the TSB the parent technique of the Expansive TSB, or is it the other way around? 03:36, March 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Heh. "Tailed Beast Skill," "Advanced natures," "Parent technique"... what fanmade terms do we still have on this wiki? 18:03, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Something small on your timeline
It was shown that Jiraiya was with the Ame Orphans for quite some time after they convinced him to stay with them before he even started training them. He was teaching them how to survive for some years after refusing to teach them Ninjutsu, then when he saw Nagato's Rinnegan after the Iwa Chunin was killed by him, he started training them in Ninjutsu.. that training spanned 3 years, then Jiraiya left. I think that training started when Nagato was 10, not ended when he was 10... as Pierrot says Nagato was a teenager younger than 15 but still a teenager remember?? I think it was you who translated the pierrot post for me. So Nagato and Konan were 13 and Yahiko was 11, when Jiraiya left to go home to Konoha, that makes Minato 19 at that time and Obito, Kakashi and Rin 11. Doesn't that make more sense?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 15:19, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

translation?
would you mind linking me to somewhere were gamaden's fourth data book article was translated. thankz. Munchvtec (talk) 15:06, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hey!It's me,Vic02.I'm so sorry that i started editing yout timeline.But you should know that Yahiko was born in the same day and year as Konan.Please try adding that information.I personallly think that it is an important one.I apologize for the mess made.I hope that i am useful in this wiki.Have a nice day!:) Vic02 (talk) 09:18, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Kamui Lightning Cutter
Really? I thought Kakashi phased most of his body in order to go through Kaguya when striking her with the Six Paths Power-enhanced Lightning Cutter... 20:50, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Please
Translate this, it seems to give a timeline for chapter 700.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150320153435/naruto/images/4/4c/Novel_Timeline.jpg

ItachiWasAHero (talk) 15:42, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request
can you look over one of the characters from the novel Shikamaru Hiden: A Cloud Drifting in Silent Darkness, Soku, whose real name is Hinoko in kanji? please and thnx. Kunoichi101 (talk) 07:57, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Kuno's block
Thank you for doing that. She's been asking for one for way too long. I just hope she eventually gets an infinite block, she really doesn't contribute here... --Sajuuk talk 10:40, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Another Pierrot blog
This one has some Killer B info in it it seems.

http://blog.pierrot.jp/archives/8289 ItachiWasAHero (talk) 20:34, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Well, at least we got the age for Killer Bee when he was wearing the forehead protector(7yrs), and the the heights for his 5yr old self and 7yr old self. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:57, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Medical Ninjutsu
Hey Seel, i was reading a old discussion about listing Medical Ninjutsu as using Yang release and you and a few others were against the idea as there wasn't any confirmation. But on the other hand, the wiki has excepted the idea of using unconfirmed/suggested information such as what chakra natures make up Magnet and Explosion release, based off what the story and databook has indicated. So why not do the same for medical ninjutsu since it uses either Yin or Yang and the chakra natures of all the Medical-nin's from the fourth databook suggest it uses Yang?--Sarutobii2 (talk) 23:44, March 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yamato basically confirmed in chapter 316 that it uses either yin, yang or both simultaneously. And the data book narrows it down to just yang based off Rin and Tsunade not having Yin. Surely those two contributing factors is enough evidence? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:21, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: 狼の哭く日
No, that's how I'd always seen it translated since it was first announced. I can't say I ever thought much about it. I just assumed it was a play on the idea that wolves normally howl at the moon. FF-Suzaku (talk) 09:36, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm... well, I guess there's room for interpretation, but my instinct is to read it as, The Day the Wolf Howled. The Japanese title for The Day the Earth Stood Still is phrased in a similar way. FF-Suzaku (talk) 19:24, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Sakura Novel
Hello senpai- how are you? I was just wondering where you heard that Sasuke and Sai were supposed to appear in the Sakura novel. I haven't been able to find anywhere that actually confirmed that.

Also, while I'm here, I'll also extend an invitation. I know you call BS on my source, and that's okay. Even if you don't believe it, it is a true statement. And as I said, he is willing to pass on suggestions, so if you want to say anything, I'll be happy to convey the message.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 19:50, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, really? I read Organic Dinosaur's translations, and I didn't see either Sasuke or Sai actually appear in the novel at all.--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 22:51, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, Organic Dinosaur translated the both the first chapter and prologue of Sakura Hiden. Here is a link to chapter 1: http://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/30v4o7/translation_sakura_hiden_chapter_1/--KirinNOTKarin98 (talk) 01:43, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Edo Tensei
is there a databook 4 article for it? if there is would you mind translating it or link me to one?? ItachiWasAHero (talk) 01:45, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Also, in the 4th war are Edo Tensei's weaker than their living counterparts as Madara coming to life and magically being much stronger suggested? QuakingStar (talk) 05:40, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

RE:TB jutsus
Oh hey Seel, which of those techniques are listed as TB techniques in the databook? For the other techniques they aren't, i disagree listing the Tb as users as those techniques used could be derived techniques, and as we know, a jinchūriki can make a derived technique based off their tb's ability, and the TB still not be listed as a user. I know the chances of the TB's being users themselves is likely, but i just feel like there should be some confirmation. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:19, April 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, i see your point know. And on the topic of tailed beasts, was i right in changing Matabi's usage of the Two-Tails Fire Ball to game only, considering Yugito was in full control of her transformation? --Sarutobii2 (talk) 14:58, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Kanji + Translations
here, here and here. I tried, but failed miserably.. >.< If you're not busy, would ya mind helping out?--Omojuze (talk) 12:57, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * So, I was looking around the Internet, and came across this sort of offering a play-by-play of the episode. They had some unconventional uses of kanji for the techniques in the episode. Any validity to them? The site has been doing that with episodes for a while, so this might be an opportunity to cross check a few things, if they have correct/reasonable kanji. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:57, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * In Sand Formation: Shisa, should the macroned i and a be on the page title, or is that one of those complex Japanese pronunciation/transliteration where that doesn't quite happen? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:37, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, but should it be "Sand Formation: Shisa" or "Sand Formation: Shīsā" in the title? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:51, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * No idea if we have a similar case. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:03, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

More Translation help?
I'm working on two original techniques for Hinata, and I was hoping you'd provide me with the correct translation of how they should sound, if its not too much trouble. The first attack is Eight Trigrams Sixty Four Lion Fists, and the second is Gentle Step Twin Lion Spiraling Spheres. I'd really appreciate it See since you're so awesome!--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:28, April 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks...whenever I try to put them down on my own I don't have a good flow...don't speak Japanese after all. And Google Translate can only go so far when making attack names that sound organic to the Naruto series. Thank you for this, much appreciated See! I'll link you to the chapter when its done!--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 19:39, April 9, 2015 (UTC)

Translation request
Hi senpai, just a translation request if you have time. For this image, can you get the summaries of those episodes especially the last two ones from it? Many thanks... — Shakhmoot  (Talk) 16:30, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

Ningame
Why did you move it? I don't have access to my databook scans at the moment, but even the Japanese wikipedia lists him as Ningame. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:47, April 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't have databook, so I can't check it, but in ShounenSuki's character profiles from databooks while of course the tortoise's name is in kanji, kana reading is にんがめ, but official romanisation is NINKAME.--LeafShinobi (talk) 21:03, April 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just saw your answer to Omnibender and the scan. It may be a little blurry, but I'm still pretty sure it's が, especially in the text just left from the manga panel.--LeafShinobi (talk) 21:10, April 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Background romanization aren't always a good source. They've always listed Chouji and Chouza (though I believe that maybe be due to different romanization process), but they've also used Ootutuki for Kaguya, Hagoromo and Hamura. And my personal favourite, Jyuugo. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:12, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

Kunoichi101
Hey. Since you recently blocked Kunoichi101 about her edit practices, I'd like to request you to keep an eye on every edit she makes. I (and probably many on this wiki) have really had enough of her inability to listen to other editors. So if she continues to make unimportant edits or makes many edits in a row without using preview, please step in. I have messaged a few other sysops about this issue, so they'll also be watching. Thank you. --Sajuuk talk 20:14, April 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * It only took 30 seconds for Kunoichi101 to basically disregard my entire warning. So you are perfectly free to go ahead and infinite block the user. I have had enough and this wiki has probably had enough patience for her. She doesn't contribute and even admitted she has no clue how to contribute here. So yeah, infinite block. --Sajuuk talk 21:38, April 13, 2015 (UTC)

You see this?
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2015/04/boruto-naruto-the-movie-trailer/ It seems Sasuke will indeed be Boruto's Master QuakingStar (talk) 17:11, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just answering this question if possible senpai, what does Kishimoto say about it (これ以上のものはもう僕には描けません!)? — Shakhmoot Nadeshiko Village Symbol.svg (Talk) 17:21, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

@Seelentau, that's cool. QuakingStar (talk) 17:38, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

re: kanji
The translator takes requests sometimes. ~SnapperTo 18:12, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Black Zetsu Trivia
From some Talk pages Talk:The Current Me, Talk:Two Mangekyō, you said that Obito absorbed Senjutsu and made his Shakujo and User:JOA20 also thinks it was Black Zetsu retiring see Talk:Black_Zetsu. So why is it not true?--Mecha Naruto (talk) 18:31, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, it could be possible but it was not confirmed and there are two possibilities now so that is why you don't want that point in trivia section, but this goes against what you and others have said earlier (in the talk pages) that Obito absorbed Senjutsu chakra from Madara to form his own staff and that is what I added eliminating the other possibility, and this is reasonable because Obito can use it to create Truth Seeking Ball like maellable chakra and transform it into Shakujo as he has demonstrated when he was TT Jinchuriki and this is more likely because you can see that it came from a hole in his hand and was transformed into Shakujo and there was no reason why Black Zetsu acted like that, Black Zetsu's part just moved away from that spot a mystery (like water spreading away from soap because of surface tension or some force). I'm not adding my own interpretation just making the article complete, a reference chapter 665 page 16 was added to it. P.S. sorry for this wall of text.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 19:29, April 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Understandable because they are always on stand by and are only formed when the person transforms into Jinchuriki. So now here Obito is actually making the Shakujo with an already available malleable chakra but it doesn't seem that way because if it was then we should be able to see Black Zetsu's part transforming and the black mass (malleable chakra) was not connected to Black Zetsu (or was he microscopically?) and why was there a hole in his hand? so anyway not adding that point, too much speculation.--Mecha Naruto (talk) 19:59, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Translation
Hiya, thanks for your message. Yeah those terms are pretty obscure given their origin, I just happen to have come across of that particular one before somewhat by chance. Anyways, thanks for all your work. Will definitely provide the little help where I can. Utsune (talk) 19:45, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hi-Quality Pics
Thank you very much about reverting all of my edits.... Can you tell me how to obtained High quality pics? Cheopz19 (talk) 10:37, April 25, 2015 (UTC).

Hmm... But there is a pic in Hamura's page. Colorful one, and taken from the movie, but it isn't deleted. Why? Cheopz19 (talk) 10:58, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oh... I See... Thanks for your advices... Cheopz19 (talk) 11:45, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Mitsuki's name and trivia
Is there any particular reason why the trivia on his name mentions full moon? As far as I know, full moon would be "mangetsu". I know the kanji can be read as "mitsuki", but why would that happen in this case? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:26, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Translation Request
If you're not busy, would you mind looking into something? Basically, in "The Last", the ointment that Hinata gives to Naruto has something written on it. If I would get a clear shot of what's written, would you mind translating it?--Omojuze (talk) 16:52, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just looked into it, and I'm sorry, I don't think you'll be able to help. The case has 3 kanji, one of which is entirely covered by Hinata's hand (and the last one is partially covered). Sorry for the troubles. "軟" <- This is the only readable one.--Omojuze (talk) 17:09, April 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * There's this. It's a different one. Is the quality to bad to be read?--Omojuze (talk) 17:17, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

If you cud?
Could you add "Kakashi Hiden" as Naruto and Sai's Novel Debuts in their infoboxes (The infoboxes are locked from editing). It would be appreciated :)--Omojuze (talk) 09:52, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Sensing Water Sphere
Hey. I'm just wondering if you can confirm if Sensing Water Sphere was listed as having a chakra nature in one of the databooks. I ask because I proposed merging Sensing Sand Sphere with that page since it's fundamentally the same. --Sajuuk talk 14:07, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

New Pierrot blog
http://blog.pierrot.jp/archives/8321 It is about the new people in this new Chuunin Exam. QuakingStar (talk) 16:24, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

To see the images at full size view, you need to open each image in new tab and remove "-1024x727" from the url and hit enter. You can then see and read every image a million times better QuakingStar (talk) 17:06, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Kanji
Hello. As of right now, I am currently having a discussion about a technique, and I need to know the kanji for the name of said technique. So far, we have the literal english name for the technique, Gold Dust Drizzle and the rōmaji name Sakin Shigure. Is it possible you can provide the kanji for this? EDIT: I came up with this 砂金時雨, but I'm not sure that's correct. 22:07, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

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Hello good sir. I have found some Japanese text I wished translated, and after searching for a while, it was said that you are the right man for the job. I therefore present this link to the text, and I hope it will not be too much of a bother for you.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:01, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

Loads of jutsu
So, there are these pages that have many names of jutsu, and descriptions. I've usually used them to confirm kanji I found in other sites. There's one page for game jutsu, and one for everything else. I've seen errors in them before, so they're not 100% reliable. I usually can tell by comparing to the general naming conventions of jutsu. Something that caught me eye in the everything else, is that they have some jutsu that I don't recall ever seeing before. Closer inspection appears to indicate that they're from the novelization version of things such as OVAs and movies. Googling them reveals that other random looking Japanese sites also have them. Dunno if there's anything useful in the game link, but could you check on them sometimes to see if there's anything we might add? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 01:07, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I managed to find the official names for some UNSR jutsu. In the page about the Third Raikage, there's 斬獄手刀. From the jutsu we have, I believe this to be Hell Chop, but I have no idea how the first two kanji should be translated. I believe the two last can be translated as chop though, and I have no idea how the rōmaji for the entire thing should read, since 手刀 can be read two ways, and I have no idea how 斬獄 should be. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:38, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * So, Tangorin says that the "hand sword" part is more like a gesture. Would "chop" still be a somewhat valid translation for the motion described by these kanji? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:22, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Translation Help?
If you're not busy, could you help out in correctly translating this and this, also to look through the episode in case I misheard something?--Omojuze (talk) 12:24, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, it's really much appreciated :)--Omojuze (talk) 16:25, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sasuke Uchiha's Trivia
Dude no need to start threatening me by saying "don't add it again", I know you're an admin and I already said I was not trying to get into an edit war because it's a waste of time, and even if you're an admin things could still go to debate without resorting to threatening because I have a different view than you have. I simply put it there because it was trivia, Sasuke having a cell phone, but prefers to stay old school by sending his hawk for communication during missions. No one else prior to the the second chapter of Naruto Gaiden had cell phones and then it was revealed that Sasuke has one which is trivia in itself. Trivia is trivia. What are noteworthy trivia and who decides this because every person is different which different views on what's trivia or not? There's a lot of other trivia on different pages that could be seen as not noteworthy yet they're still in trivia on those said pages. So, like I said before I'm not looking for any conflicts. --AllstarUchiha (talk) 19:33, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * An admin saying "do not add again" is a threat because that means if I re-edited back then measures would be taken against me. Sarada wearing glasses is going way off point to my edit, the trivia I added applies to Sasuke's character, who he is. You can't say that no one would found that trivia interesting when you can't speak for all fans of Naruto. Not to mention, there's also new fans of Naruto that at the moment don't know as much. You said it's not special yet I saw a lot of other fans talking about that subject on other the Viz Media threads for Naruto and on other Naruto sites. All I was saying was I see tons of other pages with what you would call "not noteworthy" yet those are still there so I don't see why mines was taken away for a reason that the others weren't. --AllstarUchiha (talk) 20:03, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Considering Seelentau reverted your edit a few times, he was quite within his right tell you not to add it again. He is the wiki's translator and most of our experienced editors here know what they're doing. Your edit was indeed junk trivia since that isn't what trivia sections are for.
 * I invite you to read the Revert policy, since it's clear that edit warring can result in a block. --Sajuuk talk 20:05, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

No I only editing back once, so I wasn't doing this a few times. I was not editing warring since once again I only edited back once and haven't edited back since, I didn't go back and forth. So what? I can't have a discussion with the admin because our opinions differ. How is that solving anything. --AllstarUchiha (talk) 20:12, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

@Seelentau I agree with the other option that you brought up, that it may not be right for trivia, but it could be worded differently on his page. I was never looking for many conflicts, I just didn't the see the reason why it was taken away, but glad it's over with. --AllstarUchiha (talk) 20:29, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Two vs Four
Then why is it that every manga online version of that chapter say twice as much instead of four? I'm just asking and if its true can you give me a link to somewhere it can be found? --Michma12 (talk) 23:57, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Translations
Hey, Tau! Recently, I started a wiki that is in bad need of a translator. Now I know what you're thinking: no, I'm not asking you to migrate! Haha I remember you saying something about having been a self-taught translator and I wanted to ask you about that. See, I'm not looking to get fluent. Learning German (my family is from Germany) was hard enough, but I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on how I can learn just enough Japanese to get by with helping my wiki for translations. Any pointers you can give? ~ Ten Tailed Fox 04:42, May 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * Those would definitely be good places to start. Thanks! Yeah, definitely not in my teens anymore. I'm 22 and just learning German in my teens (since my parents didn't think teaching me when I was young was, uh, important) was enough to make me want to pull out most of my hair. Hahaha Thanks for the tips, though! ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 16:23, May 14, 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey! I really appreciate that! I've been improving a lot. I'm getting better at reading words and small phrases and I've got a really good app on my phone that is steadily teaching me grammar. Some stuff is confusing, but luckily I don't need to be fluent to do most of the translations the wiki needs. I did order three of the major databooks for Dragon Ball so that we'd have them for the wiki, and they're only in Japanese, so hopefully I'm able to at least decipher the names that I need hahaha ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 16:58, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Spear kanji
It's my understanding there are three basic kanji for spear. Is the one used in the wiki the most common one? I recently went through Rasa's jutsu, and he has three game jutsu with spear on the name. I didn't add the kanji at first, because I don't know how prevalent each spear kanji is. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 19:56, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, according to tangorin there are three yari/spear kanji. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:12, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Windhole
Ich versteh deinen letzten Beitrag nicht. Sogar wikipedia übersetzt es als "Wind Cave". Norleon (talk) 17:25, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Womit die ganze Symbolik ignoriert wird, aber was soll's, soviel zu den "offiziellen Übersetzern". :) Norleon (talk) 17:39, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Die Symbolik "Obito ist innerlich so leer, da wo sein Herz war gibt es jetzt nichts mehr als den Wind, der durch ihn hindurchweht." Es ist dämlich, ich weiß, aber ich kann verstehen, was Kishimoto damit ausdrücken wollte. Norleon (talk) 17:44, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm. "Guck mal, da wo mal mein Herz war, ist jetzt ein kleines Loch (in Anspielung auf kleine Berg-Löcher)". Hm. Könnte ebensogut der Fall sein, klingt für mich aber irgendwie...blöd. :D Norleon (talk) 17:48, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just wie bist du so suddenly auf dieses Thema gecamet? Ich bin flabbergasted. Wie auch always, I got akzeptiert at the Universität Tokyos, daher bin I wonnetrunken. Hoffentlich werde ich there really better als du, ansonsten bin ich am ass. :D
 * Der Google Übersetzer hat sicher seine bright bliss hiermit. xD Norleon (talk) 16:12, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ich wouldn't be fähig to write eine Bewerbung either. My Universität did das für me. :D
 * Davon abgelooked, I denke, was translations angeht, hast you until jetzt nie verfailed. Also why den Posten abgiving? :/ Norleon (talk) 09:01, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Danke much, aber um honest zu sein, sieht this work nicht nach a lot of Spaß out. Sobald man too much in this wiki involviert wird, wird man in the air zerrissen. Nicht für ungood, aber da halt ich me lieber out. :/ Norleon (talk) 14:13, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Jinzōningen
Hey Tau!

Question for you. So, my co-editor and I are working on the pages for the Cyborgs on our Dragon Ball wiki, but we've come to a spat as to how to translate. Literally, I know it is "artificial human", but most media translates it as "Android". He wants to translate it as "Cyborg". Technically they all mean the same thing, but how would you translate that? ~ Ten Tailed Fox 18:25, May 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not sure, but this looks like じんぞうにんげん jinzō ningen to me. ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 18:57, May 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you much! ~ Ten Tailed Fox Rinnegan Sasuke.svg 19:04, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

I need your honest input.
I would like to read your fully honest opinion on this page. It's going to come up again eventually, and Jūgo's recent addition is likely to create another full blown discussion so I took the initiative. Thanks.--Minamoto15 (Talk) 22:21, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Shenlong vs Shenron
Sorry to bother you again Tau. Your pointers have been invaluable, but I've got a final question for you. Shenron vs Shenlong. 神龍 (シェンロン) Kanji says Shenlong or "dragon god", but the furigana says Shenron. The matter confuses me because the Viz manga uses Shenlong, the anime (both Japanese and English) clearly states Shenron, but most people accept "Shenlong" as the official name. Thoughts? ~ Ten Tailed Fox 06:20, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yahiko Age
According to your new timeline, Yahiko died between ages 25-30, but according to the databook he died at age 15. Age 15 seems kind of weird, and the wiki page even says age 15. Wouldn't that be impossible? He would be like three during his training with Jiraiya if that were the case. I'm not sure if its a mistranslation or what, because he definitely couldn't have been fifteen when he died.

Were there any other glaring inconsistencies when you did the timeline? If there were, it'd be interesting to know. --Bullet Francisco (talk) 10:49, May 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm... Okay. Yeah, it doesn't seem to work. How did you make sense of everything in there o.O You seem to have most everything documented pretty well. --Bullet Francisco (talk) 10:58, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

The Rinnegan and Sasuke pages needed to be updated because one states that sasuke can deactivate his rinnegan while the other says he can't.AngelOfDeath1295 (talk) 23:43, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Etymology - Possible name meanings?
Hi Seelentau :)

I just wanted to say that I agree with you that we should not just post ungrounded guesses at what Kishimoto is trying to convey with his names for the characters on their pages, unless of course we are provided with the kanji for the name. However, sometimes there are names that only have one clear meaning and even though we do not have the kanji, would it be reasonable to put in the etymology of the name in the trivia section with its specific kanji?? Like it was done on Iruka Umino or Ibiki Morino's pages??

Also, on the subject of guesses at different name meanings and kanji being posted on the character pages, there are still some pages that display this - such as Rin Nohara, Fū and Tenten's pages. Are you suggesting that those should be deleted? While we are at it, we might as well be consistent :)

Michiyō Madoka (talk) 14:17, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Six Paths Chakra
Hey Tau, if Kakashi got Six Paths chakra wouldn't that make him a Yin-Yang Release user? I reread that chapter where he seemingly got chakra from Obito, and I didn't see any indication that he recieved Six Paths chakra. That's me though.--Mina talk  21:30, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Help
Since you have read DB1, 2, 3, and 4 I need your help.. CS2 Kidomaru vs Part 1 CS2 VOTE Sasuke. I swear the sound 4 made it clear Sasuke was weaker than them. Some people don't agree though.. QuakingStar (talk) 22:26, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Block settings
Seelentau, when blocking please stick to the blocking policy. Infinite blocks shouldn't be used the first time a user vandalizes the wiki. And talkpage revocation should only be used after a user has already abused the ability to edit their talkpage while blocked. ~ Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (Local Talk &#8285; Animanga Talk) 11:10, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of which, Seel-san, since you locked Sasuke's and Karin's page, mind if I ask a favor? Sasuke's paragraph for today's chapter needs to be changed into UK English. It's a minor thing to ask for, but it's bugging me since we need to follow the policy, right? Also, on Karin, I want to remove this line: "Later Karin developed mutual feelings with Sasuke Uchiha that they had a daughter together — Sarada Uchiha."

Not to sound crude here, but last I checked, having a child together doesn't mean that mutual feelings were necessarily involved, if you catch my meaning. We don't know what happened with them, and since Kishi-sensei is a prankster who likes to tease his fans... Well, yeah. I know we update the pages in accordance to the information gathered from the chapter and if new info appears, we update that and all that jazz, but being realistic here, together people can make a child without romantic feelings are involved (well, in the real world).-- Ninja Sheik  20:31, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Re: More video techniques
This game looks sick, ain't it? And this is just the demo. More epic stuff to come, I'm sure. Btw, any luck finding a Japanese gameplay of the demo, assuming there is one, to check the name for Takemikazuchi no Kami?--Omojuze (talk) 17:00, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Gutsy Shinobi
I think Google tends to be more competent with translating German than it is with Japanese. However, translating's already your thing for one language, why rob you of the opportunity to translate another?

Could you translate whatever useful information is available here and add it here? Using Japanese to German to English translations isn't the ideal option, but we lack better alternatives. ~SnapperTo 17:10, June 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * (I Googled "Naruto Musasabi" and that was one of two websites I came across that wasn't a mirror of some other website.)
 * I'm personally confused about what to do with the book. Just from the standpoint of what to title the article, how do you disambiguate it enough to clearly distinguish it from the animanga version, seeing as both are books? And the book, despite actually existing, is 99% in-universe, in which case it seems like it should go with the in-universe article, otherwise there's two articles on the same thing, kind of sort of. I don't know. ~SnapperTo 17:27, June 18, 2015 (UTC)