Talk:Urashiki Ōtsutsuki

first appearance
I'm assuming his first appearance was as a silhouette? If so, should that be noted? Diamonddeath (talk) 16:00, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Lightning Release and Sand Manipulation
Should we really add natures and traits he fishes up with his rod into his infobox? Technically he just fishes them up, stores them in his jar and then fires them out, he doesn't posses them himself.--Elve Talk Page 12:28, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Kakashi's Sharingan isn't really his either.--BerserkerPhantom (talk) 12:31, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Same concept as Tenten unsealing a Fire Release technique from her scroll, so no he shouldn't be listed as having a stolen nature since his body doesn't produce it. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 12:40, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to note, Momoshiki is listed as a user of the techniques he absorbed, even though he didn't produce them on his own too, so I'm curious how Urashiki's case is different. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 12:44, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * @Saru's case: Urashiki never sealed anything. We're led to assume he STOLE everything. No way is the same to Tenten. I liken it to the whole Kakashi/Susanoo situation, where we have Kakashi use both Sharingan despite not technically having them.BerserkerPhantom (talk) 12:51, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, characters who have used a nature through outside source, but can't perform it themselves, shouldn't have it listed in their infobox. So if Tenten sealed a Lava Release technique performed by someone else, into her scroll and then unsealed it, we should list her as a user of Lava Release kekkei genkai? It's nonsense in my opinion and a policy should be established what counts and what doesn't.--Elve Talk Page 12:57, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not really the same case as Tenten. Just to note, Urashiki stored up not the actual jutsu themselves, but the samples of chakra of their users, which in turn allowed him to use the abilities of those users. Again, it's more similar to the absorption/amplificatiion ability of Momoshiki. Otherwise, all of Momoshiki's natures and techniques should be removed from his article as well, since he isn't their actual user, but received them through absorption ability. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 13:04, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * In that case it's fine, he is a user.--Elve Talk Page 13:18, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Elve that characters who have used a nature through outside source shouldn't have the nature listed in their infobox. That doesn't apply to Momoshiki as he uses a body part to perform nature transformations like Madara/Danzo with Hashirama's face allowing them to use Wood Release. Urashiki's gourd performed Lightning Release, not Urashiki himself. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:39, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Urashiki's gourd is made out of chakra, so it's not a physical item, but a part of his abilities, the same way as his fishing road, akin to Kinshiki's Tool Creation Technique. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 13:44, June 14, 2018 (UTC)