Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-31810758-20170423043658/@comment-27924662-20170430172150

BlazeRelease wrote: Well, this will be very long, compared to any of my other long posts. First I'll start correcting my calculation. at the fourth war. Naruto = 5. Sasuke =5. because they are equals at the war. They weren't. Don't know how you came up with that stuff but no they weren't equal. Naruto(low on chakra because of fighting In War) + Kurama + Limited NE(Because the IT's effect was still there) were equivalent Sasuke(lack of Rinnegan Mastery)+ 9 Bijus. BlazeRelease wrote: Naruto with hashi hand + another half kurama =10. Doesn't make sense. Hashirama's hand won't give him that big advantage. Yes Naruto would win in taijutsu but when it comes to avatar fight it really doesn't matter. BlazeRelease wrote: Sasuke +Rinnegen mastery = 8. Sasuke + years of Training =10. Well for starters Sasuke didn't train as hard as naruto did. Naruto was also training hard till he became Hokage. that's like what 3-5 years(after Naruto became Hokage)? Not enough time even for sasuke to improve considering he was also investigating 5 whole planets at same time. BlazeRelease wrote:
 * Naruto + Hashi hand = 7.

@Namikaze. From what I'm saying is that theres a difference between stronger and dangerous. Like a lion is strong but a disease carrying mosquito can be dangerous. And this reply to my which statement? BlazeRelease wrote: Naruto's whole character is dangerous to villains. You're taking things I said to others and twisting them around.But I guess since you brought them, I'll do my best to enlighten you my friend. :) I believe it goes like this "I was right, Sasuke at full is not someone to mess with" -Naruto Uzumaki at the gaiden, talking to himself rather loudly I think. Page reference? And Besides the only person known who could beat him was Naruto himself. So that actually undermines your point. BlazeRelease wrote: Which fight are you mentioning here bro? where are you going with this? I was replying to someone that said that Naruto's has matured very much and that is why he won't say things like I'm better than you and all to Sasuke. which isn't the case. So as you could read again(but this time much more clearly) that I was mentioning that Naruto is still the same, and gave examples for it, in which you seem to imply some fight? are you making some fanfiction? if so, then I'll surely read it. He did. Naruto is down to earth, He does brags at times but has really deep understanding of Human emotions. Pretty sure that's one of the reason why he has such high points in Negotiation. BlazeRelease wrote: Sasuke's pride? what do you mean? He sincerely accepted Naruto as his brother. He gave up that kind of pride, at chapter 699 I think. Did you miss it? Very next page check out what he calls him. after that he never acknowledged the feat in front of naruto. BlazeRelease wrote: Sasuke's both talented and is a hard worker. He wasn't just that cheerful with a training moto or something but it's very well stupid that he doesn't train when training is also his hobby and he is the first person to discover the Momo and Kinshi threat and so as a protecter of his village for both his brother, new family, friends and his best friend Naruto. So, yes he does train more. Well considering that Sasuke had to search 5 planets for scroll I don't know how you are claiming that sasuke even got the time to train. Their isn't single proof other than your hobby statement. BlazeRelease wrote: Oh cool, so can you show me a link about where it says the meteor was weakend? or did you go and checked it yourself? Well that's based on the assumption that Rock lee and others already broke the structural integrity when they first broke half of the rock. BlazeRelease wrote: In the fourth war, Sasuke was also shown cutting meteor rite size CTs your point? With Susanoo, Naruto did it without any avatar. BlazeRelease wrote: The external boost you're mentioning was used at the end of their avatar battle, basically close to the end of their battle. '''While Naruto was powered up by Eight other tailed beasts which gave him a special cloak for the whole fight. and he also had TSBs too. But wait where are they now?''' Sasuke had alot of years to improve from that point. He mastered his Rinnegen and potentially learned alot of ninjutsus, has become more wiser and has improve alot of his basic abilities too, like Swordsmanship and Taijutsu, because well he couldn't use his Susanoo everytime because of him being new person from after the 700th chapter you know? Well So Naruto didn't go for the kill till sasuke actually tried to use the tailed beasts. That kind of balances the odds it also shows that Naruto was holding back. Well Sasuke Has Rinnegan but he never used a single tech(other than Ameno) So where are they? Sasuke Learned many ninjutsus ?Where are they? Where did he Show them? Where is the proof that he improved? Did Naruto acknowledged his improvement any where down the line? BlazeRelease wrote: There's no doubt about Naruto having more chakra. But more chakra does not always help you against someone who has rinnegen abilities to absorb ninjutsu and chakra as well. And he very well improved his chakra reserves too. Something which can be easily avoided if one fights in mid-long range. Naruto excels in that. BlazeRelease wrote: Well the difference is that while naruto was being helped by all the 9 tailed beasts with his chakra, Sasuke used his own genjutsu, his own chibaku tensei and his own Susanoo to forcefully take that chakra. He did it with effort and talent while Naruto did it with love, pretty much what their character were right? Naruto was helped by tailed beast only when he fought against Kaguya. If he had been helped By the tailed beasts than Sasuke would have been as good as dead. Think about it. BlazeRelease wrote: And why exactly is Sasuke always shunned by others everytime? When Obito used the tailed beast power which his whole team and taka helped to collect, he was cool, when Madara used the tailed beast power he collected by using his own secret jutsu, he was cool, when Naruto was being helped by all the nine tailed beasts he was cool. when Sasuke used tailed beast power with his own effort and ability, he was so uncool? where's the logic bro? isn't thsi regarded as bs too? or is just always for Sasuke? Somehow bro you don't get it do you? Sasuke doesn't has that chakra now(while fighting Hokage Naruto) is all of us trying to point out. No body is discrediting the feat. Sasuke if he fights without that Chakra He is bound to lose Since Naruto could easily go into VOTE state and kill him by detonating the jutsu before hand. BlazeRelease wrote: Um the writer did showcase it. he showed through alot, it's just sad that his efforts are just ignored. Ever thought why he keeps giving them power ups one by one, so to make them equal at the end and also grow them strong. Ever noticed why he made the vote battle a tie? ever noticed why he makes certains characters say that they are equals? like freaking Oro, who is a genius, himself. And again you mention the Huge Huge boost, which was for what? 2 minutes from the 24 hour fight? while Naruto had chakra of all the beasts and tsb with him all taht time till the end? Yeah nice speculation. They are equals. enough said. Typical answer from some one Who won't acknowledge Naruto's obvious superiority. Early Shippuden Sasuke was way stronger. And It's After SM that Naruto started catching up and finally overcoming and surpassing Sasuke completely Towards the End.