Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-26107879-20181004003653/@comment-34194151-20181124053911

Okay, I can't believe it but, Loneninja and Ninja of War and all the others are actually right.

See, the reason it took me so long to realize it is because the opposition refused to explain why other characters faster than rock lee didn't experience tunnel vision, so I needed to figure it out my own by doing significant rereading and keeping an open mind.

My arguments rested on the idea that ninjas always use their top speed in battle, ironically because of Loneninja and LegionZero. But this obviously isn't true. Think about it. Ever did martial arts? Ever watch boxing? notice how the fighters aren't using their top running speed all the time. It would be stupid if they did. The fighters would run at their top speed and collide into each other. Fighters only use their top speed if they need to retreat or chase after someone, but in the heat of battle it's risky to do that because of tunnel vision plus the fact it's hard to accelerate to a stop easily. So fighters find a middle ground, fast enough to pressure their opponent and close the distance but slow enough to avoid tunnel vision. The only reason minato and tobi appear to be the same speed is because minato is running slower than he normally does to avoid tunnel vision, plus if he runs too fast obito would just slip through and catch him with the chains again. Now, of course there are exceptions. The Raikage runs at his top speed without any fear because he has the extra reflex boost from the ration armor. but even he doesn't always use top speed 24/7.This explains why KCM naruto appears to be slower than he actually is at times. KCM naruto doesn't use his top speed all the time, which explains how all those characters who should be much slower than him were keeping up. When naruto actually tried to get away from obito for example, he successfully did so. The only reason obito caught him was because he sneaked his gunbai through a rock in naruto's blindspot. other than that naruto appeared slower against obito because he was trying to balance avoiding tunnel vision with also trying to hit a dude who goes intangible in an instant. Basically, while I now agree that raikiri doesn't boost speed, all that other stuff about obito being as fast as kcm naruto or minato isn't true either.

The opposition also did a poor job in my opinion of explaining rock lee. but I see it now. Rock lee only used his top speed in small bursts against gaara, while constantly changing direction, so he never built up too much running speed to the point it would create a significant tunnel vision issue. I'm still confident that rock lee experiences some tunnel vision in the 5th gate but there is probably a reflex boost to reduce it. plus he appeared to jumping off the ceiling and stuff to help himself change directions quickly and not build up too much speed.

Also, look at jiraiya vs pain. When sage mode jiraiya blinded the human path of pain, I now believe the human path couldn't react to the kick because of his tunnel vision. Why? because that same path had no trouble reacting to jiraiya's punch. the human path was probably running at his top speed when he thought jiraiya was distracted by ma and pa and because of that he didn't see the kick coming.

So yeah, raikiri/chidori does not boost one's speed. The reason the technique is "instant" and is kakashi's fastest technique is because when uses it optimally, he runs at his absolute top speed, a speed he wouldn't dare running at in battle. this would normally cause tunnel vision but the sharingan corrects it. Raikiri is meant to be a technique that ends the fight with impossible speed and the pinnacle of penetration power. the reason they only run so fast when using that technique is because if the technique fails to kill their opponent, they are dead, so they have to run as fast they can to minimize the chance of a reaction but also to ensure penetration occurs. However, Minato banned the technique because without a sharingan, it's far too risky for kakashi to use against opponents who can react to his absolute top speed. Kakashi would be limited to using it as a kunai, which is pointless because raikri saps a ton of chakra and a kunai can get the job done just fine.

the reason I'm confident it's kakashi's speed and not a boost from the technique is because now the whole thing about sasuke having to train to rock lee's speed makes a lot more sense. He needed to be at rock lee's level of speed because rock lee was the fastest character in the chunin exams at the time. If sasuke is as fast as rock lee then all the characters would have trouble reacting to his full speed chidori.