Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20180205153025/@comment-26107879-20180210223116

@Ninja of War

Kakashi was indeed affected what? Did you not see the clone in the Genjutsu realm as thin as paper and burned alive? If not, then I suggest you re-read or re-watch it. Unless you're making things up, which isn't the first time in your post. Literally your post is made up of taking jutsu Itachi has (In Manga and Databook), away saying he doesn't have them, and placing limitations not stated to be there, lol. Itachi did not say it didn't work, he said it did not work on Kakashi cause it was a clone affected by the Genjutsu. As for Itachi vs Sasuke, they were fooled. Sasuke was fooled enough to stab a chair, so your point there is mute. Even if Danzo's Mangekyo was on cool down, his basic Sharingan wasn't. His Sharingan didn't just disappear from his eye socket, lol. Whenever Kakashi's Mangekyo went on cool down, his eyes reverted back to basic three tomoe. Danzo's Sharingan didn't just magically disappear, so your point there is also mute.

"In any case, the genjutsu user is also preoccupied with the genjutsu." Where does it state when using Genjutsu: Sharingan, the user is preoccupied? Cause that's the Genjutsu we're talking about. Sasuke was moving pretty fine when he used it on Danzo to think he had an extra Izanagi. In Chapter 15, Kakashi also seemed to move just fine. So another mute point.

"I asked for proof and you didn't deliver" I did deliver. You just don't want to accept it. If you state it wasn't Genjutsu: Sharingan (The name of the actual Genjutsu), then what was it? If you say it's a different jutsu, then you are giving a jutsu to Obito that he isn't stated to have.

"Furthermore, it is not acceptable to give Itachi this genjutsu, since there is no basis." Uhh. Itachi sure the hell does have Genjutsu: Sharingan, that was a poor attempt at trying to prove me wrong. He is listed in the Databook in having it. It is also listed that you can control a Tailed Beast, people, and even a tailed beast inside a person, through eye contact. So good game.

"So you're still clinging to that scenario hey? Not surprised. But, what about Menma's chakra control abilities and Itachi's preoccupation? Not well thought out. Itachi isn't cutting his throat." Sure I am, since you haven't countered anything and keep taking things away from Itachi that he is stated to have, and giving Menma things he doesn't, so Menma could win. At what point does it stop being a debate, and become more about a fan arguing over a character he likes despite being wrong. You're starting to reach there bud, I suggest you stop taking things away from Itachi such as Genjutsu: Sharingan and putting limitations it isn't stated to have on it. And FYI, he is cutting his throat, since Kakashi was able to move in Chapter 15, Itachi can move as well. :]

Reminder: The moment Itachi and Menma made eye contact, Menma lost access to Kurama's reserves. Menma won't be repulsing anything while inside Genjutsu: Sharingan. His throat will be slit by Itachi.

Note: If your next reply is placing more limits on a technique not shown or stated to have such limits, or disregarding a technique's abilities stated to have, I won't be replying. You already gave Menma an ability he didn't have since it was Obito in his body, controlling him. At a certain point, it becomes a fan trying arguing over a character he likes despite that character not being able to win. And I don't like to argue, I like challenging debates.