Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26388300-20160301040622/@comment-27660682-20160320061652

Naruto and sasuke never kicked madara's ass. In fact, they failed to stop him from escaping and once he came back he fully distracted them with limbo clones and chibaku tensi.

Naruto and sasuke needed help from the alliance and kages to beat obito,  and even that was plot armor because they didn't have hagoromo seals.

Naruto and sasuke defeated kaguya by touching her thanks to the seals which required the help of kakashi and sakura. Kaguya is battle inexperienced and not the smartest either. Hashriama has battle experience, and massive battle experience at that. Sasuke and naruto only " surpassedd" hashirama and madara after their hax power ups and not a second before. Sasuke went from being unable to beat a blind madarato being able to slaughter hashriama? I don't think so