Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-3523655-20200802172018/@comment-46817411-20200928182506

BloodOfTheArchon wrote: Then we can use them for Orochimaru too. Orochimaru knows Minato and his abilities so he would know about the Eight Trigrams seal, in fact he has ways to counter it like what he did to Naruto in the Forest of Death. Orochimaru knows about FTG and how it works, he calls himself a researcher of jutsu so saying he wouldn't know is just foolish.. this makes it a proper assumption. Therefor Orochimaru being who he is would have counters for FTG and Eight Trigrams Seal such as substituing a snake clone, or shadow clone, or mud clone. Orochimaru could use feints to land a deadly blow. He doesn't have to worry about a Kunai or a Rasengan hitting him because he would survive it easy and counter attack.

I don't think there's a way to counter Eight Trigrams seal. Yeah, maybe he might have a counter for FTG, but he'd have to pull that from his own arsenal which kinda already downplayed for some reason. And if we're replacing Sarutobi with Minato then wouldn't he NOT have a counter for it because even though he may have studied Tobirama's.. Minato improved it somehow. So it may be a bit different from what Orochimaru expects. And a normal rasengan from a very fatigued, almost out of chakra 11/12 year old Naruto was able to put down Kabuto (even when he tried to out-hax the rasengan by healing himself before it hit him) who is supposed to be Kakashi level or whatever and the same Kabuto that beat the shit out of Tsunade. Orochimaru values Kabuto's healing powers greater than most things so a rasengan from Minato that also somehow negated wood style healing should do really bad damage to Orochimaru. He could just regurgitate himself, but Orochimaru does have a reputation of "not learning his lesson". Tbh, he could just spam that shit. So i'm not going to say "survives it easily" and Minato is considered nine tails level by people like Pain. While i'd argue Orochimaru loses pretty badly to Pain.