Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-43403813-20200102180859/@comment-43776375-20200107090222

FlatZone wrote: I don't recall that. Was pretty much at the start of the fight

Even if Nagato can't absorb the Wood Dragons, he still has other options to evade them. Shinra Tensei, using the summonings to tank the hit, flying away from range (either with the Bird summoning or Nagato using the Deva Path to levitate himself).

I don't think Obito will attack with it, best he will do is probably use them in a counter defensive way

Obito may be able to speed up the rate at which he absorbs something, but that wouldn't make it instantaneous. Also, Say for example that one of Nagato's arms were being sucked into Kamui, that wouldn't make Nagato immobile, he could still function and move his other arms. He just wouldn't be able to walk away. This is similar to how Deidara was still functioning whilst his arm was being sucked into Kamui; he was actively trying to pull out his arm and questioning what the hell was going on. The difference with Nagato is that Nagato can actually do something about being sucked into Kamui, which is Soul Steal. Obito is right next to him and has to be tangible to use Kamui on Nagato. It's unlikely that Obito will grab Nagato and successfully suck him into Kamui before Nagato even touches him. Nagato has too many arms, wires and shared vision to be slow on that. Killer Bee has faster CQC speed than Orange Mask Obito, and a crippled white-haired Nagato dodged him in his Cloak Mode, and then proceeded to disarm him later on when he came to save Naruto with zero difficulty.

Thing is, why should he be able to move in the distorted space? Obito's Kamui is different form Kakashi's

Minato nearly reached him with the rasengan but he didn't continue to push it, and Minato is fast, your examples are of Nagato that reacts to Obito and after being touched he attacks him, but even if both attacks each other if Obito touches you first his distortion is gonna cover your whole body, and you can't exit it

He does genjutsu them though. He used genjutsu on Fu and Torune so they wouldn't exploit his weakness. And Obito has nothing to take on Nagato with in his dimension. Think about it. In this match-up, his attempt is to suck Nagato into Kamui. But then after that, then what? He has nothing to touch Nagato with, bar that Wood Dragon if it bypasses Shinra Tensei and a plethora of summonings. Moreover, Obito's chakra supply is quite small in comparison to Nagato's, so Nagato could just stall him out.

Like I said before Obito should have control over his space, he sended both Fuu and Torune to Kamui, then what he fought them there and put them under genjutsu? Couldn't he have done that without putting them inside it then? Even if he can just decide at whitch distance and place of his space time they're put he can send him somewere and let him starve

And bare in mind, this is without considering Nagato's use of Shadow Clones. Obito most likely wouldn't be able to suck Nagato into Kamui, because the moment he materialised, the clone could just use Bansho Tenin.

Like said before the clone method can't work, Naruto's clone was teleported by Kakashi not Obito, and it would't make sense for Obito fighting 2 jinchuriki along with Kakashi and Gai and trying to suck in people

We don't know if Obito can even act in that duration of time though. He may be able to move, but the whole point of that technique is to turn reality into illusion. It wouldn't make sense if he could kill someone in that timeframe whilst he technically didn't exist, or was "immortal". If he could have killed during this time period, then he could have killed Konan halfway through the explosion technique, since she was far enough away from it. Why wait until your immortality fades, where you had no chance of dying?

Danzo attacked Sasuke and moved fine, Obito was still in a sea of explosions so even if he was immortal he was still getting killed continiously and continiously getting reassembled

EDIT:

I always thought that wherever Obito was in the Kamui dimension was "proportionate" (probably the wrong term) to the real world. So like, Obito travels in the Kamui dimension and then when he reaches his destination, he just shifts into the real world.

Sorry I just noticed that I didn't respond to this, but I agree it makes sense for his ability to teleport that he can set it like: "3 meters in Kamui word are 10 meters in the real one"

It should make sense beacause he then uses Kamui to travel dimensions (Kaguya fight) saing that Kaguya dimension is a lot far, so he could've travelled infinite distances to hop from a dimention to another, I dont know lol