Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26005711-20150704102606/@comment-26773508-20150814093033

Hiruzen should take this easily. He's not stronger than Hashirama but he's at least the 3rd strongest Hokage (most likely 2nd strongest after Hashirama and above Tobirama due to DB4 hype; not counting Naruto in Hokage list because of bs powerups). Anyway, old Hiruzen would have probably easily killed Orochimaru had Oro not used Edo Tensei. He also loved Oro as his student till the end so that probably also contributed in some way to his failure to kill Oro. Meanwhile 27 year old Kakashi needs bed rest for 1 whole week after just using the normal Sharingan for a few minutes against Zabuza. In no way is Kakashi ever going to beat Hiruzen with feats like that, though War-era Kakashi might stand a chance against old Hiruzen.