Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-26636534-20170619154549/@comment-5085906-20170622191818

Kakashisologod1 wrote: Want a proof?Look at the manga and find the guy who put orochiamru(who has more knowledge on genjutsu than minato)without even moving nor making eye contact. I really don't want to sound like a broken record, but I'll say it again: Aside from two of his genjutsu, Itachi cannot mindrape without making eye contact with the victim. The scene you're referring to is a flashback - there's no way for us to know what happened prior to that scene. However, it is quite implied that Itachi can put someone in a genjutsu without them noticing, so chances are he already had made eye contact with Orochimar but the latter just didn't notice. How did I come to that conclusion? This scene: [] note Kisame's reply It's also implied Itachi can program his jutsu for delayed activation and what not, but that's beside the point.

Another point I wanted to raise is STOP adding feats to Itachi without them being confirmed first. It is common in Shonen for all the established rules to be thrown out of the window for a brief moment of coolness or when the plot requires it (Tite Kubo is like the worst offender). Itachi shielding himself with Susano'o right in time for the Kirin strike does not mean he can react faster than lightning. That's stupid. It's like when Tobi rescued Sasuke from Tsuchikage's jutsu without any of the people in that room being able to discern his presence. Let me just stress this one out; Tobi SHOULD NOT be able to teleport in and out that fast or without anyone noticing. We know that's not one of his feats because it took him much more time to teleport when Konan was all over his ass.

If Zetsu or any of the bystander characters had commented on his reflexes, said something to the extent of "Oh wow, Itachi's reflexes are amazing!", then yes - I would conceit. That's because acknowledgement (or even suspicion) by another character usually means fact in Naruto terms.