Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-34700383-20180829185752/@comment-6769189-20180918074924

CombatIQmatters wrote:

I think it's clear that at very least jugo's sage transformation ability is similiar enough to jiraiya's imperfect sage mode. Id have to disagree here. The abilities/functions/looks are all different

CombatIQmatters wrote:

two, @LegionZero, The thing is juubi chakra is senjutsu chakra, so when I say it "leaks" I literally mean his ninetailed beasts could have been pooling the chakra into him a little at a time. So, yes I agree he was in SPSM when he saved guy, but the mode wasn't complete yet, once it was complete he got the full cloak plus truth seekers. Because hokage naruto probably lost most of the bijuu chakra, he is unable to enter complete SPSM. I don't see why getting the other half of the ninetails would make his eyes more orange, when logically with more bijuu chakra the closer he would be to the juubi, so his eyes would be yellow as opposed to organge, though I still haven't found an official scan yet lol. If SPSM was relient on Juubi chakra then Naruto wouldnt be able to use SPSM post-war.

The cloak is dependant on the chakra of all of the bijuu. The eyes post-war could be because hes mixing SPSM with Kurama Mode. Having/using a full Kurama doesnt bring him closer to Juubi chakra, in fact it would bring him further since it would remove the other bijuu from the equation.

Im of the belief that the cloak is an extension of SPSM rather than a complete form.

Naruto asking Son Goku for chakra for the Lava Rasenshuriken highly implies he wasnt drawing on any chakra from the tailed beasts at the time.

@hag0r0m0:The cross pupils are relevent because Kishimoto introduced them and only included them with SPSM.

No one is taking images out of context except you. The context of image of Naruto kicking TSB is a databook page explaining SPSM. If this was completely unrelated to SPSM it wouldnt be on that page.

What was never confirmed/hinted/suggested was Kurama gathering sage chakra for Naruto giving him pigmentless senjutsu eyes.

Are you really trying to say that this https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/2/22/Naruto%27s_SPSM.png/revision/latest?cb=20150730222303 is orange idk what to tell you other than its not. His jacket is orange and the eyes dont come close to that.