Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-36006024-20180914132456/@comment-34194151-20180914185044

Sasuke casually used that against 9 bijuu yet such genjutsu wasn't useful against SPSM naruto for a distraction? C'mon. Kid obito also put a perfect jinchuriki in genjutsu for years The bijuu are canonically weak to dojutsu based genjutsu. Kid obito put the nine-tails in genjutsu with ease, no reason to assume he or madara couldn't replicate sasuke's feat, or even shisui and itachi. So no, bijuu getting caught =/= hashi being caught.

Madara acknowledged his speed and yet he never was able to blitz madara like that again. It's obvious. Madara let himself get hit so that the kamui teleporation speed could be increased. the smaller the object, the faster the transportation. he knew he was immortal and that blow wasn't gonna kill him, hence why he showed no fear. If sasuke could do that whenever he wanted the infinite tsukyomi wouldn't have even gone off. By the logic being used here, sasuke is faster or as fast as the night moth, which is an attack fast enough to bend space that madara actually could somewhat mentally react to, so that is false.

Sasuke wins this fight, but let's not overdoit