Board Thread:Theories and Speculation/@comment-890307-20161205161301/@comment-27924662-20161222164557

Lorenzo VonMT wrote:

There's no way any of them are beating madara with a perfect susanoo in his arsenal except shisui with koto. Anyways, itachi, obito and shisui don't fall in the generation thats after madara's so they're irrelevant. Please don't exaggerate... How is EMS madara going to even touch obito? Itachi can beat Madara with difficulty and they are much after madara's generation. Please get your facts right. Lorenzo VonMT wrote:

We don't know if neji surpassed his father, he definitely had the potential to, sakura did not surpass tsunade, gai is not in naruto's generation, don't forget that about the 6 other people involved in the defeat of kinkaku and ginkaku. Ino actually did surpass her father so kudos. The point i'm trying to make here is that even in naruto's generation, that rule doesn't apply because there are numerous shinobi that didn't surpass the previous generation. well neji's feat were exceptional during the fight and he was strong enough to be appointed the second-in-command for hyuga clan. Hashirama did say sakura' s power was stronger(and she did surpass tsunade down the line) Guy did surpassed most of the shinobi's while fighting TTJ madara including Hashirama, and all other 5 kages. Gaara surpassed his father and defeated gengetsu(though he had help for this fight) Darui defeated Kinkaku and ginkaku on his own eventually.(note he defeated ginkaku on his own though he had backup while fighting Kinkaku).