Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-33308438-20180614101055/@comment-34194151-20180714013924

@ Ninja of War

Minato can instantly move from one point in space to another, same as Tobirama, but both characters have been reacted to after they appear, because their movement outside of FTG, while fast, isn't instantaneous is what I'm trying to say.

Yes genjutsu is about controlling the flow of the victim's chakra network. Breaking genjutsu and casting genjutsu are two separate skills though. My current understanding is you need high chakra control and intelligence to cast a good genjutsu, but to break a genjutsu you simply need to be aware you are in one first, and then you just need sufficient strength/chakra to break it. Breaking genjutsu is about your strength vs Itachi's chakra control skills. Naruto, even without the ninetails , has one of the highest chakra reserves in the series simply by being half-Uzumaki, and he couldn't break it by himself. The only other way to break a high level genjutsu is by partner method/sharingan hax.

That said, there is no way that a 30 percent itachi clone, a pathetic shell of the full itachi who is known for low reserves has more chakra-strength than naruto. So It means that ITachi's genjutsu skills were greater than naruto's chakra-strength. If chakra control was the deciding factor, then non genjutsu users wouldn't ever be able to break genjutus, because by definition, genjutsu users have superior chakra control skills than non-genjutsu users according to Jiriaiya. As far as I can remember, there was nothing suggesting that Minato was a genjutsu type, so even if its true that Naruto couldn't break it because of his poor chakra control, then Itachi should have better chakra control then Minato because Minato can't cast genjutsu. Not even Jiriaiya, who has amazing chakra control, can cast genjutsu by himself, he admitted he needed Ma and Pa. But I could be wrong about this.

Even if Minato could break ITachi's ephemeral, he still has to be immediately aware of it. If he isn't immediately aware, he is screwed b/c ephermeral has been shown to paralyze the target, and he would be open season for a totsuka blade stab. And as I said, there is no evidence Minato is aware of ITachi's ability to use fingers to cast genjutsu.

As far as I can remember, Ephemeral is a visual genjutsu, meaning the user has to see the finger in order to be trapped in the genjutsu. Kabuto shut off his eye-sight so he can't be affected by it, which is why Itachi didn't bother using it. Now, Minato isn't guaranteed to look at ITachi's finger either, but its at least a possibility he will see it as he blitzes Itachi and he will get caught out of ignorance.

The clone "handled" itachi's genjutsu because apparently shadow clones are immune to genjutsu, and plus that clone had a sharingan which offers some defense against genjutsu, and Minato doesn't have a sharingan.