Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-1514283-20140829001753/@comment-28861328-20140830061727

Snapper2 wrote: Maybe instead of trying to discuss policy change by using current disputes as examples, we should use a historical case so that nobody has any of the toxicity that Reliops believes is ongoing.

It was "obvious" to many back in 2006 that Tobi was Obito Uchiha. How should the wiki have handled this?
 * Should it have noted the similarities between the two but kept them separate?
 * Should it have made the logical conclusion that they were the same person and combined their articles?
 * Should it have taken no stance on the issue at all and merely reported the actions of each until such time that the manga gave a definitive answer?

Being obvious to you and using basic reading comprehension to come to a conclusion are two entirely different things. For example, the famous TSB debate. We have two users on this site that insist that all four users of the same technique have a different elemental makeup to said technique despite: No technique ever working that way, the information being overwhelmingly for the fact that all four uses were exactly the same, etc, etc, but it'll never be recorded on this wiki. Why? Because even though a clear majority agree on the fact that its all the same across the board, as with every single technique every introduced, we have a site that would rather bicker and ignore certain traits and facts (like Elveonora's absolutely refusal to add new natures to Naruto no matter how many new ones he displays) due to their personal beliefs and convicitions.

Based on that one article alone, I've given up on actually trying to get anything done on this wiki.

Its impossible.

You will always have a camp that will yell and scream that Kishimoto should state it, then turn around and try to use logical conclusions from the text to deduce other material and not see the problem that creates. And then you will always have the other side, that would rather use the clues we've been given to make reasoned decisions and then just change the information if and when we're ever proved wrong.

Nobody seems to see that we are all editors here, we're all on the same team, and we all want the same thing: this wiki to be as factual as humanly possible. If we spent more time trying to see the other side (Seel pointed out something about the Rikudo Senjutsu to me this week that I'd never thought about before, for example), rather than trying to stamp in our point of view: we'd get a ton more done around here.

But again, that'll never happen. There are too many who believe that their way of reading this series is the only way and refuse to give any ground to anyone who believes otherwise.

That's how I see this problem, anyways.