Board Thread:Naruto Discussions/@comment-3568954-20140523074558/@comment-3568954-20140523102351

The Winter King wrote: Actionmanrandell wrote:

the thing is that it is said that all you need is the power of both the uchiha and senju the sharingan itself is the power of the uchiha and Naruto already has the senju power(body as well as uzumaki chakra) so a transplanted sharingan may very well instantly awaken into a rinnegan the moment it is in a senju body because that is technically the completed power of the sage I still doubt it is possible, since even for someone like Madara it almost took the end of his life-span, obviously madara didn't have the sort of convenient power boosts naruto possess What you say is highly improbable but its not entirely impossible

what i am saying is that madara only took hashirama's cells. hagoromo had both the eye and the body so it would stand to reason that transplanting the eye into someone who already has the body would work a lot faster then just transplanting a few cells into someone who only has the eyes

Actionmanrandell wrote:

also it appears that senju DNA is so powerful that Obito's eyes do not go blind(he instantly could use kamui with out training the moment his MS awakened) so it is safe to assume that any senju who has a transplanted sharingan instantly have an eternal sharingan and i guess you can argue that since obito doesn't have any special appearance of his MS that it can't be a EMS but i could also argue that the change in appearance is caused when one uchiha transplants the MS from a family member so the change is actually the two sharingan combining but again this is all speculation but since they have shown that obito has no vision problems unless it turns out he has been blind for years and simply had been going on instinct No, Obito's eyes not going blind and senju with sharingan being able to awaken EMS are completely unrelated

It is possible Obito didn't go blind because of Senju DNA, thats all there is to it

i never said he was going blind. what i said is he showed no signs of blindness even though he spammed the hell out of kamui

Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan can't be awakened unless an uchiha transplants another MS into him, that concept has been explained perfectly.

If an eye will not go blind because of senju DNA then it is its basically an eternal eye. the only thing an eternal Mangekyou sharingan is good for is that it doesn't go blind so again if senju DNA makes it to where the persons eyes do not go blind then it still is an Eternal eye

As for the appearance part, it has nothing to do with family bonds, if Obito had Shisui's eye implanted in him even he could awaken the EMS, senju DNA has nothing to do here, Family bonds are only required since the mixing of the two sharingan will be much faster if the donor and receiver are closely related

did i ever say anything about Family bonds. what i said was that to get an Eternal Mangekyou sharingan a uchiha has to transplant the eye of a family member i then said the appearance change in a MS to EMS is because the persons eye takes on a combination of the uchiha's original MS and that of their family members MS and as a by product its and Eternal eye. i realize people are allowed to go on making theories based on speculation but what you said there is pretty absurd,

also there is nothing absurd about this theory its not really even a theory its just a speculation. what is so absurd about it? they have shown that Obito who has senju DNA clearly was not going blind even though he should have been blind years before that. if the senju DNA completely Negated the side effect of blindness then it was in fact an Eternal eye(lasting or existing forever; without end) and it appears that the only added bonus of an EMS is that it never fades all techniques that have been shown to be used by EMS are the same techniques you can use with an MS

also is it really absurd to speculate that since the senju body is required for the process of getting the Rinnegan that if it was transplanted into a senju or someone of senju blood would awaken it faster for the simple fact is they have a lot more senju power to help the process speed along.