Board Thread:Versus Debates/@comment-30323490-20170610192426/@comment-30323490-20170613064628

Rachin123 wrote: @Vlad

I'm quite sure that if Naruto and Jiraiya were resistant to genjutsu to a point, it would have been said so stop grasping straws. And I know you didn't sit there and say that just because the Frog Call is a SM technique that couldn't affect someone in SM. Based on your logic, all SM techniques can't work on those who are in SM. Also, while it is impressive that Naruto could handle be thrown a wall, I don't see how that would change anything here when Jiraiya attacks will be stronger than that kick that Momoshiki did anyways. Also, Kurama was also halved powered, and had it chakra suppressed by Kushina's chakra chains too. All Naruto's attack did was push him back a few feet. It did no damage so I don't know why it matters.

Jiraiya did kick Pain in similar manner that Momoshiki kicked Naruto, and the effects were similar.So i don't see how Jiraiya has more power than Momoshiki. If anything, Jiraiya seemed to put more power in his kick, while Momoshiki did it rather casually. I have no idea why you people keep downplaying Momoshiki...he is still an Otsutsuki after all. And Naruto was in base mode when that happened. Adding SM over that, yes, i would say that he is more durable than Jiraiya. And Kurama might have been only half of himself, but Jiraiya is nothing compared to Kurama. He would get done by a single one of those rasengans. I i didn't say that SM users are immune to frog call, i said that since both Naruto and Jiraiya were trained under the TOAD Sage Mode, and since Frog Call is a Toad SM technique, they might know how not to get trapped. Facts still stand: Ma and Pa were literally screaming frog call in Jiraiya's ears when they were standing on his shoulders, and he didn't get affected. Same goes for Naruto, he literally walked between the 2 animals that were being affected by the genjutsu, and he didn't get affected as well. So why would Naruto get affected all of the sudden? It's not my fault that they didn't explain why Naruto and Jiraiya didn't get trapped. But again, what happened, still happened. And it's canon.And it would happen again in case they would ever fight.