<p>it doesnt make any sense.
if he was alive when guy was young, then he should be very old when naruto battled him (atleast 40 years old).
and if he was also alive back then, why did Ameyuri Ringo succeed him as the owner of the swords, only for him to come back and take them?
you could say that he battled her and killed her, but the anime said that she died of an illness. and she seemed way much better than him with the swords, while he only relied on the powers of the kid he got, so its unlikely that he killed her.
speaking of the kid, when he wasnt with him, wasnt he a kiri anubu? not a sword man of the mist
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