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ALL POSTSOPINION: Is Sakura Kage Level?
<p>Sakura gets a fair share of flak, for sure, but let's look at things in perspective here: Sakura (albeit with assistance from Granny Chiyo) defeated S-Rank criminal Sasori of the Red Sand, fought and survived the Fourth Shinobi World War (and was partially a front-liner alongside Naruto and Sasuke atop their summon animals), she has sharpened her Strength of a Hundred jutsu to such a refined level that Shizune and Hashirama remarked upon it, and has become one of the foremost medical ninja in the world. Overall, she has displayed a skill set born of being the personal student of the Fifth Hokage.
</p><p>So I ask: is Sakura kage level by the time we see her in Naruto Gaiden? Has she surpassed Tsunade?
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<p>GreatestSin wrote:
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<p>QuakingStar wrote:
He didn't have sage mode when he arrived there. I have that chapter and the episode downloaded. Nice try though.
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<p>episode is non-cannon, they add stuff into it which never happened, but i looked at the chhapter too, and nowhere was shown that he was or that he wasnt in sage mode... </p> </div> <p>I did it too, but I clearly saw Naruto's normal eyes with no sign of the sage markings along with Sasuke's black eyes at the last page of the chapter, when Naruto saves Sakura. SM definetely was out at his arrival. The respective episode also introduces this scene right. </p>
<p>episode is non-cannon, they add stuff into it which never happened, but i looked at the chhapter too, and nowhere was shown that he was or that he wasnt in sage mode... </p> </div> <p>I did it too, but I clearly saw Naruto's normal eyes with no sign of the sage markings along with Sasuke's black eyes at the last page of the chapter, when Naruto saves Sakura. SM definetely was out at his arrival. The respective episode also introduces this scene right. </p>
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<p>UltimaDude wrote:
@GreatestSin He didn't have Sage Mode when he arrived. If he did, we would see him in Sage Mode. How can he immediately deactivate Sage Mode when he turned around with no sign of him turning back to normal? You're making way too many excuses
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<p>what changes with sage mode? his clothes? his hair? no, only his eyes, and we only saw them <i>after</i> sakura was rescued... </p><p>furthermore, lets say it is as you said, why didnt he manage to speedblitz worn-out-sasuke again if his normal speed is enough to outrun MC-kakashis vision? </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Ravenlot 27 wrote: I did it too, but I clearly saw Naruto's normal eyes with no sign of the sage markings along with Sasuke's black eyes at the last page of the chapter, when Naruto saves Sakura. SM definetely was out at his arrival. The respective episode also introduces this scene right. </p> </i></div>
<p>yes, <i>after</i> naruto saved sakura, we didnt see anything before this happened(that means we dont know if he had sage mode while saving sakura), any other panel of him in the last 2 chapters showed him in SM :I </p>
<p>what changes with sage mode? his clothes? his hair? no, only his eyes, and we only saw them <i>after</i> sakura was rescued... </p><p>furthermore, lets say it is as you said, why didnt he manage to speedblitz worn-out-sasuke again if his normal speed is enough to outrun MC-kakashis vision? </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Ravenlot 27 wrote: I did it too, but I clearly saw Naruto's normal eyes with no sign of the sage markings along with Sasuke's black eyes at the last page of the chapter, when Naruto saves Sakura. SM definetely was out at his arrival. The respective episode also introduces this scene right. </p> </i></div>
<p>yes, <i>after</i> naruto saved sakura, we didnt see anything before this happened(that means we dont know if he had sage mode while saving sakura), any other panel of him in the last 2 chapters showed him in SM :I </p>
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<p>GreatestSin wrote:
what changes with sage mode? his clothes? his hair? no, only his eyes, and we only saw them <i>after</i> sakura was rescued...
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<p>We would see his eyes reverting back to normal and the pigmentation fading. It doesn't happen immediately
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>GreatestSin wrote: furthermore, lets say it is as you said, why didnt he manage to speedblitz worn-out-sasuke again if his normal speed is enough to outrun MC-kakashis vision? </p> </i></div>
<p>Maybe because he didn't want to fight Sasuke? Otherwise he would of fought him?
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>GreatestSin wrote: yes, <i>after</i> naruto saved sakura, we didnt see anything before this happened(that means we dont know if he had sage mode while saving sakura), any other panel of him in the last 2 chapters showed him in SM :I </p> </i></div>
<p>Dude, use your common sense. He only used SM to find their location. When he saved Sakura, and we saw his face, there were no implications that he used SM. So logic, dictates, he deactivated SM by the time he arrived </p>
<p>We would see his eyes reverting back to normal and the pigmentation fading. It doesn't happen immediately
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>GreatestSin wrote: furthermore, lets say it is as you said, why didnt he manage to speedblitz worn-out-sasuke again if his normal speed is enough to outrun MC-kakashis vision? </p> </i></div>
<p>Maybe because he didn't want to fight Sasuke? Otherwise he would of fought him?
</p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>GreatestSin wrote: yes, <i>after</i> naruto saved sakura, we didnt see anything before this happened(that means we dont know if he had sage mode while saving sakura), any other panel of him in the last 2 chapters showed him in SM :I </p> </i></div>
<p>Dude, use your common sense. He only used SM to find their location. When he saved Sakura, and we saw his face, there were no implications that he used SM. So logic, dictates, he deactivated SM by the time he arrived </p>
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We would see his eyes reverting back to normal and the pigmentation fading. It doesn't happen immediately</i></div>
<p>do you think that kishi would take the time to think about "oh, SM doesnt vanish instantly, i shouldnt contradict this for a cool panel" and change it? </p><p>here, a link for a rather good fitting troupe: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>UltimaDude wrote: </p> Maybe because he didn't want to fight Sasuke? Otherwise he would of fought him?</i></div>
<p>so, in other words, we cant prrof if he had SM on or off ^_^ </p><p>btw, do you seriously think that it would be naruto-like to not try instant-KO sasuke and take him with himself to konoha? instead talking with him until he has the chance to run away or he attacks with rasengan and somehow still is "only" at normal-speed instead of speedblitz-ing :I </p><p>logic/consistency dictates that he used SM for the speedblitzing and SM vanished since he didnt have enough nature energy anymore :) otherwise it will simply make no sense that he didnt speedblitz sasuke... </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>UltimaDude wrote: Dude, use your common sense. He only used SM to find their location. When he saved Sakura, and we saw his face, there were no implications that he used SM. So logic, dictates, he deactivated SM by the time he arrived </p> </i></div>
<p>except for the fact that he wasnt as fast as before, if it wasnt for SM than he should have this speed the whole time, where did it go after saving sakura? Dude, use your common sense. :I </p>
<p>do you think that kishi would take the time to think about "oh, SM doesnt vanish instantly, i shouldnt contradict this for a cool panel" and change it? </p><p>here, a link for a rather good fitting troupe: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>UltimaDude wrote: </p> Maybe because he didn't want to fight Sasuke? Otherwise he would of fought him?</i></div>
<p>so, in other words, we cant prrof if he had SM on or off ^_^ </p><p>btw, do you seriously think that it would be naruto-like to not try instant-KO sasuke and take him with himself to konoha? instead talking with him until he has the chance to run away or he attacks with rasengan and somehow still is "only" at normal-speed instead of speedblitz-ing :I </p><p>logic/consistency dictates that he used SM for the speedblitzing and SM vanished since he didnt have enough nature energy anymore :) otherwise it will simply make no sense that he didnt speedblitz sasuke... </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>UltimaDude wrote: Dude, use your common sense. He only used SM to find their location. When he saved Sakura, and we saw his face, there were no implications that he used SM. So logic, dictates, he deactivated SM by the time he arrived </p> </i></div>
<p>except for the fact that he wasnt as fast as before, if it wasnt for SM than he should have this speed the whole time, where did it go after saving sakura? Dude, use your common sense. :I </p>
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He didn't have sage mode when he arrived there. I have that chapter and the episode downloaded. Nice try though.
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<p>episode is non-cannon, they add stuff into it which never happened, but i looked at the chhapter too, and nowhere was shown that he was or that he wasnt in sage mode... </p> </div> <p>lol Just Cuz They Add In Filler Doesn't Mean The Entire Episode Is Non-Canon. </p>
<p>episode is non-cannon, they add stuff into it which never happened, but i looked at the chhapter too, and nowhere was shown that he was or that he wasnt in sage mode... </p> </div> <p>lol Just Cuz They Add In Filler Doesn't Mean The Entire Episode Is Non-Canon. </p>
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She's slower than base Naruto.
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<p>@QuakingStar "Do NOT upload images specifically for use in the forums"
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<p>@GreatestSin, your arguments are ridiculous.
</p><p>@Everyone else, the topic is if Sakura is Kage level, not if she can beat Naruto or if Naruto was in sage mode when he saved Sakura (he wasn't).
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<p>AsianReaper wrote:
@Everyone else, the topic is if Sakura is Kage level, not if she can beat Naruto or if Naruto was in sage mode when he saved Sakura (he wasn't).
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<p>I gave up when it turned into this. I think it's pretty clear she's Kage Level. </p>
<p>I gave up when it turned into this. I think it's pretty clear she's Kage Level. </p>
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