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<p>Madara at his strongest point before he died (the first time) vs Kakashi with the double mangekyou sharingan.
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Kakashi.
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<p>DMS Kakashi would win to EMS Madara although it would be extremely difficult for him to do so and Madara would still have a good chance of winning, if this were edotensei or Rinnegan Madara then Madara would win low difficulty.
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<p>I don't understand how anyone thinks Kakashi could win this...
</p><p>Even with DMS Kakashi is not an Uchiha, those eyes would be burning through his chakra like a car with poorly designed gas to the mileage, it doesn't matter that Kakashi can be intangible, Madara would simple have to wait for the poor guy to tucker out and then finish him off at his leisure.
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<p>IchiNii89 wrote:
I don't understand how anyone thinks Kakashi could win this...
</p><p>Even with DMS Kakashi is not an Uchiha, those eyes would be burning through his chakra like a car with poorly designed gas to the mileage, it doesn't matter that Kakashi can be intangible, Madara would simple have to wait for the poor guy to tucker out and then finish him off at his leisure.
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<p>You must have skipped the part where DMS Kakashi chopped off Kaguya's arm using Kamui raikiri. This is KAGUYA we're talking about, the immortal Mother of Chakra. What makes you think EMS Madara has a chance against someone like that. </p><p>Also, DMS Kakashi has Obito's chakra as well a portion of the Six Paths Power. In this mode, the DMS won't drain his chakra like it did in the past, since Obito's full chakra is merged with Kakashi's own chakra, not to forget the Six Paths Power. And so DMS Kakashi won't suffer any chakra strain unless he fights for a full 24 hours. He only felt exhausted after Obito returned to the Pure World along with his chakra. That was also the time when Kakashi lost the DMS and his eyes reverted to normal. Hence, DMS Kakashi has no chakra issues whatsoever. </p><p>Also, I might add that in my opinion, the Six Paths Power seems to be the only feasible reason why Kakashi was able to activate a flying Perfect Susanoo, despite not having EMS. We have seen from the cases of Itachi, Sasuke and Madara (and Shisui if you consider his Susanoo in Storm Revolution as canon, since Kishi lent his hand on the Susanoo design) that one needs EMS to unlock the Perfect Susanoo. Obito's MS granting Kakashi a flying PS seems to be a plot hole. So the only logical tool to resolve this issue is that the Six Paths Power granted by Obito allowed Kakashi to immediately upgrade to PS. Kakashi's own chakra also seems to have contributed to his PS in a small way, as his PS, if I remember correctly, had Kakashi's distinct scar on its left eye. </p>
<p>You must have skipped the part where DMS Kakashi chopped off Kaguya's arm using Kamui raikiri. This is KAGUYA we're talking about, the immortal Mother of Chakra. What makes you think EMS Madara has a chance against someone like that. </p><p>Also, DMS Kakashi has Obito's chakra as well a portion of the Six Paths Power. In this mode, the DMS won't drain his chakra like it did in the past, since Obito's full chakra is merged with Kakashi's own chakra, not to forget the Six Paths Power. And so DMS Kakashi won't suffer any chakra strain unless he fights for a full 24 hours. He only felt exhausted after Obito returned to the Pure World along with his chakra. That was also the time when Kakashi lost the DMS and his eyes reverted to normal. Hence, DMS Kakashi has no chakra issues whatsoever. </p><p>Also, I might add that in my opinion, the Six Paths Power seems to be the only feasible reason why Kakashi was able to activate a flying Perfect Susanoo, despite not having EMS. We have seen from the cases of Itachi, Sasuke and Madara (and Shisui if you consider his Susanoo in Storm Revolution as canon, since Kishi lent his hand on the Susanoo design) that one needs EMS to unlock the Perfect Susanoo. Obito's MS granting Kakashi a flying PS seems to be a plot hole. So the only logical tool to resolve this issue is that the Six Paths Power granted by Obito allowed Kakashi to immediately upgrade to PS. Kakashi's own chakra also seems to have contributed to his PS in a small way, as his PS, if I remember correctly, had Kakashi's distinct scar on its left eye. </p>
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<p>Kakashi (standart dms) loses
</p><p>kakashi (with rikudo chakra) wins
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MADARA OF COURSE.
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kakashi may be overhyped but cmon.... dms kakashi would destroy madara
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<p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote:
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You must have skipped the part where DMS Kakashi chopped off Kaguya's arm using Kamui raikiri. This is KAGUYA we're talking about, the immortal Mother of Chakra. What makes you think EMS Madara has a chance against someone like that.</i></div>
<p>Oh I saw that don't you worry, but what I think people don't really realize is despite all the power Kaguya possessed, she has absolutely laughable battle sense and instinct..this is a Woman who forgot to consider what was going on above her and resulted in her getting decked by Naruto's resident sandbag. </p><p>Madara wouldn't make such laughably careless errors like that, honestly I believe Kishi presented us with Kaguya because Madara with all the trimmings of the SSP would still wipe the floor with Naruto and Sasuke, Uchiha Madara is freaking beast of a combatant and its within reason to argue that he went undefeated in the entirety of the Fourth Ninja War he was only finally stopped when Kaguya made her appearance. </p><p>I don't consider Kakashi cutting off her arm much of a feat for the character, Kaguya was the strongest sure, but a complete joke of a combatant. </p><p>Thus.. </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote: </p> Also, DMS Kakashi has Obito's chakra as well a portion of the Six Paths Power. In this mode, the DMS won't drain his chakra like it did in the past, since Obito's full chakra is merged with Kakashi's own chakra, not to forget the Six Paths Power. And so DMS Kakashi won't suffer any chakra strain unless he fights for a full 24 hours.</i></div>
<p>This doesn't really matter in my opinion. </p><p>Reason being that despite your assertion that Kakashi would be fine for 24 hours, that point becomes null and void when you remember that EMS Madara can fight for a full 5 days non-stop..5 DAYS NON-STOP, Kakashi might as well not bother even engaging Madara and just go about his business. </p><p>Again, Madara is one the series greatest combatants, I sincerely doubt that in 24 hours Hatake Kakashi could strike a significant blow or manoeuvre himself into a position of power over Madara in that time..it took Hashirama Senju 5 days just wittle Madara down to the point he could have an advantage over him. </p><p>Honestly, there is hardly anyone in this series that can contend with Madara, if Naruto were a fighting game he'd be the most broken character in that game..far too much going for him. </p>
<p>Oh I saw that don't you worry, but what I think people don't really realize is despite all the power Kaguya possessed, she has absolutely laughable battle sense and instinct..this is a Woman who forgot to consider what was going on above her and resulted in her getting decked by Naruto's resident sandbag. </p><p>Madara wouldn't make such laughably careless errors like that, honestly I believe Kishi presented us with Kaguya because Madara with all the trimmings of the SSP would still wipe the floor with Naruto and Sasuke, Uchiha Madara is freaking beast of a combatant and its within reason to argue that he went undefeated in the entirety of the Fourth Ninja War he was only finally stopped when Kaguya made her appearance. </p><p>I don't consider Kakashi cutting off her arm much of a feat for the character, Kaguya was the strongest sure, but a complete joke of a combatant. </p><p>Thus.. </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote: </p> Also, DMS Kakashi has Obito's chakra as well a portion of the Six Paths Power. In this mode, the DMS won't drain his chakra like it did in the past, since Obito's full chakra is merged with Kakashi's own chakra, not to forget the Six Paths Power. And so DMS Kakashi won't suffer any chakra strain unless he fights for a full 24 hours.</i></div>
<p>This doesn't really matter in my opinion. </p><p>Reason being that despite your assertion that Kakashi would be fine for 24 hours, that point becomes null and void when you remember that EMS Madara can fight for a full 5 days non-stop..5 DAYS NON-STOP, Kakashi might as well not bother even engaging Madara and just go about his business. </p><p>Again, Madara is one the series greatest combatants, I sincerely doubt that in 24 hours Hatake Kakashi could strike a significant blow or manoeuvre himself into a position of power over Madara in that time..it took Hashirama Senju 5 days just wittle Madara down to the point he could have an advantage over him. </p><p>Honestly, there is hardly anyone in this series that can contend with Madara, if Naruto were a fighting game he'd be the most broken character in that game..far too much going for him. </p>
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<p>Guys c'mon, you're being all a bunch of derps. So Kakashi has a complete full body susanoo now plus Kamui again. Big whoop, Madara has the complete Susanoo too. Ad he has a butt ton of other Jutsu too, not to mention his taijutsu and Genjutsu abilities as well. DONT ASSUME KAKASHI CAN EASILY BLITZ MADARA BECAUSE KAGUYA DIDNT EVEN HAVE ANY FIGHTING ABILITY.
</p><p>And if we were to add one more thing to Madara, it would be the Rinnegan as he awakened it before he died. It's be somewhat of a difficult match but Madara would win.
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<p>Another point to add, concerning Kaguya's battle prowess being an absolute joke, this Woman has the Byakugan..how in God's Almighty Name did she not see Sakura coming from above her? She has 360 degree field of vision, Sakura didn't even attack Kaguya from the Byakugan blindspot, an absolute joke that she was beaten that way.
</p><p>Kakashi blitzing and injuring this loser just isn't impressive when you put Kaguya in that perspective.
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