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ALL POSTSNew Naruto announcement about the new generation to be posted in 19 days
<p>http://www.shonenjump.com/next_generation/index_tablet.html
</p><p>Boruto series?? most likely
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<p>I wanna see the kids train and master a variety of techniques and stuff. I want more battles like Part 1, where strategy was big and insane power was not. Strategy and misdirection to land your one kill-shot, not throwing your kill-shots all over the place and hoping one of them hits. Starting back over from Genin is a good starting point to take the series slow and build it up.
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<p>Thekillman wrote:
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<p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote:
I think I've had enough of super-powered kids
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<p>a small side-note: as early as Part I we've had super-powered kids. It got worse over time, but in itself it's nothing new. </p> </div> <p>Yeah but strictly speaking for myself, Naruto was the first anime I followed seriously. So I wasn't really bothered by the "super-powered kids kicking powerful and experienced adults in the nuts" all that much. I never cared for Pokemon, and my enthusiasm for DBZ totally evaporated away after watching the Goku vs. Frieza fight (which mostly consisted of Goku and Frieza staring at each other). I've heard that the original Dragon Ball (when Goku was a kid) is much better than DBZ, but it wasn't aired in my country for some reason; only DZ was aired. So I had no chance of watching the early Dragon Ball as a kid. </p><p>Then came Naruto, which had a far more interesting premise than DBZ: a pariah kid battling against his fellow villagers' prejudice and working his butt off to win their respect. Now that was far more interesting than watching a bunch of alien space monkeys yell and shout and go blond and destroy entire planets in the process. Naruto offered an emotional and (to some extent) political complexity that simply wasn't there in DBZ (which was the only anime I'd bothered to watch at that time). And so I got hooked. </p><p>But now that I've watched/read a few more anime/mangas, the whole "teenagers saving the world" thing is getting ridiculous. I haven't followed Bleach, Fairy Tail and One Piece yet, but all seem to have teenage protagonists (Ichigo, Natsu and Luffy). All the protagonists from Shingeki no Kyojin are teenagers. The protagonists from Tokyo Ghoul are teenagers too. Even Code Geass (which I love to death) has a morally ambiguous, master manipulator teenager as the protagonist and anti-hero. This "teenage hero" crap of Shonen mangas is getting really tiresome. </p><p>Now I've watched and read some Seinen mangas/anime as well, like Basilisk, Elfen Lied (again, led by teenagers), Monster, Death Note, Shigurui: Death Frenzy, Ninja scroll, Lone Wolf and Cub, etc. But quite a lot of them have their fair share of excessive gore, nudity and rape. Monster and Death Note are fine though. And it's not that I find gore and rape to be repulsive (I liked most of the violent mangas). It's just that as a newbie to the whole manga/anime world, I'd like to read mangas that have nice action and complex plotlines without too much blood, gore, nudity AND teenage protagonists. Something in-between Shonen and violent Seinen. Something like Rurouni Kenshin, for instance. </p><p>Which brings me to Naruto spinoffs. The world of Naruto, with its 5 Shinobi Superpowers and smaller Shinobi countries, has excellent potential for stories involving awesome action coupled with complex political intrigues. I think Amegakure has the best potential for such a plotline. It's a small country condemned to be dominated by the larger powers (kinda like my country). Ame's Civil War with Hanzo and Akatsuki can be quite interesting if done properly. Same with Kirigakure. The 3 World Wars could also have complex plotlines along similar veins. And finally, complex plotlines can be created by exploring the stories of the previous incarnates of Indra and Ashura. </p><p>Kishi spent 15 years on a bunch of super-powered kids. If someone were to produce Naruto spin-offs, I think focusing on adult shinobis and complex plotlines would be better. Itachi's story is the pinnacle of such type of plotline in Naruto, IMO (even though Itachi was himself a teenager). But I'm asking too much now. </p> </div> <p>You should probably try more seinen series then, cause the shounen genre itself is directed at a young male audience and what captivates them the most, and that isn't really a deep political drama. </p>
<p>a small side-note: as early as Part I we've had super-powered kids. It got worse over time, but in itself it's nothing new. </p> </div> <p>Yeah but strictly speaking for myself, Naruto was the first anime I followed seriously. So I wasn't really bothered by the "super-powered kids kicking powerful and experienced adults in the nuts" all that much. I never cared for Pokemon, and my enthusiasm for DBZ totally evaporated away after watching the Goku vs. Frieza fight (which mostly consisted of Goku and Frieza staring at each other). I've heard that the original Dragon Ball (when Goku was a kid) is much better than DBZ, but it wasn't aired in my country for some reason; only DZ was aired. So I had no chance of watching the early Dragon Ball as a kid. </p><p>Then came Naruto, which had a far more interesting premise than DBZ: a pariah kid battling against his fellow villagers' prejudice and working his butt off to win their respect. Now that was far more interesting than watching a bunch of alien space monkeys yell and shout and go blond and destroy entire planets in the process. Naruto offered an emotional and (to some extent) political complexity that simply wasn't there in DBZ (which was the only anime I'd bothered to watch at that time). And so I got hooked. </p><p>But now that I've watched/read a few more anime/mangas, the whole "teenagers saving the world" thing is getting ridiculous. I haven't followed Bleach, Fairy Tail and One Piece yet, but all seem to have teenage protagonists (Ichigo, Natsu and Luffy). All the protagonists from Shingeki no Kyojin are teenagers. The protagonists from Tokyo Ghoul are teenagers too. Even Code Geass (which I love to death) has a morally ambiguous, master manipulator teenager as the protagonist and anti-hero. This "teenage hero" crap of Shonen mangas is getting really tiresome. </p><p>Now I've watched and read some Seinen mangas/anime as well, like Basilisk, Elfen Lied (again, led by teenagers), Monster, Death Note, Shigurui: Death Frenzy, Ninja scroll, Lone Wolf and Cub, etc. But quite a lot of them have their fair share of excessive gore, nudity and rape. Monster and Death Note are fine though. And it's not that I find gore and rape to be repulsive (I liked most of the violent mangas). It's just that as a newbie to the whole manga/anime world, I'd like to read mangas that have nice action and complex plotlines without too much blood, gore, nudity AND teenage protagonists. Something in-between Shonen and violent Seinen. Something like Rurouni Kenshin, for instance. </p><p>Which brings me to Naruto spinoffs. The world of Naruto, with its 5 Shinobi Superpowers and smaller Shinobi countries, has excellent potential for stories involving awesome action coupled with complex political intrigues. I think Amegakure has the best potential for such a plotline. It's a small country condemned to be dominated by the larger powers (kinda like my country). Ame's Civil War with Hanzo and Akatsuki can be quite interesting if done properly. Same with Kirigakure. The 3 World Wars could also have complex plotlines along similar veins. And finally, complex plotlines can be created by exploring the stories of the previous incarnates of Indra and Ashura. </p><p>Kishi spent 15 years on a bunch of super-powered kids. If someone were to produce Naruto spin-offs, I think focusing on adult shinobis and complex plotlines would be better. Itachi's story is the pinnacle of such type of plotline in Naruto, IMO (even though Itachi was himself a teenager). But I'm asking too much now. </p> </div> <p>You should probably try more seinen series then, cause the shounen genre itself is directed at a young male audience and what captivates them the most, and that isn't really a deep political drama. </p>
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<p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote:
This "teenage hero" crap of Shonen mangas is getting really tiresome.
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<p>I'm afraid that Shonen is pretty much exactly that. I've been looking for new series for a while now but i can't really find anything that truly captivates me. I love a lot of aspects about Naruto (it's ninjutsu is probably one of the best magic systems) but the current snail pace is killing it for me. </p>
<p>I'm afraid that Shonen is pretty much exactly that. I've been looking for new series for a while now but i can't really find anything that truly captivates me. I love a lot of aspects about Naruto (it's ninjutsu is probably one of the best magic systems) but the current snail pace is killing it for me. </p>
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I'm afraid that Shonen is pretty much exactly that. I've been looking for new series for a while now but i can't really find anything that truly captivates me. I love a lot of aspects about Naruto (it's ninjutsu is probably one of the best magic systems) but the current snail pace is killing it for me.
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<p>if you liked this chakra-stuff than you should...no, you MUST watch Hunter x Hunter(2011), the anime/manga is REALLY good with one of the best villian char developments i have seen in generic shonen (this story has teenager protags too but they dont win their fights with only superpowered one-kill-shot-spamming) ^_^ </p>
<p>if you liked this chakra-stuff than you should...no, you MUST watch Hunter x Hunter(2011), the anime/manga is REALLY good with one of the best villian char developments i have seen in generic shonen (this story has teenager protags too but they dont win their fights with only superpowered one-kill-shot-spamming) ^_^ </p>
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<p>Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood might be what you're looking for. The two protagonists are teenagers, but by no means are they over-powered, like at all. The adults of the show could probably beat them. The story is also complex and amazing, and it doesn't center around the two teenagers getting power-ups and over-powering the bad guys. In fact, the adults play a huge role and in the end it seems like everyone is a main character. That was off-topic but I thought I'd help you out in finding a good anime. x)
</p><p>I still hope for a Boruto series. Enormous potential
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<p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote:
This "teenage hero" crap of Shonen mangas is getting really tiresome.
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<p>I'm afraid that Shonen is pretty much exactly that. I've been looking for new series for a while now but i can't really find anything that truly captivates me. I love a lot of aspects about Naruto (it's ninjutsu is probably one of the best magic systems) but the current snail pace is killing it for me. </p> </div> <p>That doesn't have to be the case though. Look at superhero comics: Superman, Batman, Captain America, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, etc are all adults. Both Shonen and superhero comics are targeted towards the same demographic too. </p>
<p>I'm afraid that Shonen is pretty much exactly that. I've been looking for new series for a while now but i can't really find anything that truly captivates me. I love a lot of aspects about Naruto (it's ninjutsu is probably one of the best magic systems) but the current snail pace is killing it for me. </p> </div> <p>That doesn't have to be the case though. Look at superhero comics: Superman, Batman, Captain America, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, etc are all adults. Both Shonen and superhero comics are targeted towards the same demographic too. </p>
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<p>BigBadBruin343 wrote:
That doesn't have to be the case though. Look at superhero comics: Superman, Batman, Captain America, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Wonder Woman, etc are all adults. Both Shonen and superhero comics are targeted towards the same demographic too.
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<p>Technically, Spider-Man started out as a teenager. </p>
<p>Technically, Spider-Man started out as a teenager. </p>
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<p>BigBadBruin343 wrote:
Both Shonen and superhero comics are targeted towards the same demographic too.
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are comics even a thing anymore? i'm not american, so i have no idea but i always had the impression comics were a dying breed
are comics even a thing anymore? i'm not american, so i have no idea but i always had the impression comics were a dying breed
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i am watching this countdown as i message this. I AM SO HYPE
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<p>Thekillman wrote: are comics even a thing anymore? i'm not american, so i have no idea but i always had the impression comics were a dying breed
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<p>Comics are still very much a thing, my good sir </p>
<p>Comics are still very much a thing, my good sir </p>
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