<p>I'm sure it is, with that 100 years experience he couldn't see through the bunshin feint ? Right. </p>

<p>@MIGshinobi Oh please you know plot was the only reason Naruto outsmarted and defeated Kakuzu. </p>

<p>I agree it was plot that he was killed that fast, I mentioned it in another thread. Naruto should have needed more help to take him down, but plot or not it's not farfetched for him to be smarter. I'm just pointing out that experience =/= wisdom =/= intelligence. The 9 bijuu are at least 1000 years old and I don't see anyone calling them the smartest. I'm not saying the raikage is dumb, he obviously ewrned his title as raikage for a reason, but saying he is this intellectual being that rivals the masterminds and most brilliant people in naruto on a " kage level" intelligence cop out makes no sense for me. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Ninja Of War wrote: @MIGshinobi </p><p>Actually, since you stated that the Third has an "average mind" you have to provide evidence. My evidence is that the Third is a kage, and kage have kage-level intelligence. Or are you implying that kage have "average minds" aswell? Again, if you are implying that black lightning is slower than kirin lightning, please give evidence. </p><p>Battle experience == wisdom(in battle). Learning from combat is a vital to being a shinobi. Otherwise, Naruto would have never defeated Kakuza or a few peins. The Third fought 10000 shinobi in three days, that's a little bit more battle experience than most shinobi get in there entire lives, and that was just one battle. I don't know why you are talking about Kakashi and why he used smoke bombs. I'm talking about Itachi and why smoke bombs would hurt him, rather than help him. </p> </i></div>
<p>not all kage have kage level intelligence, the fourth Raikage is an overemotional dumbass who should have given his position as leader over the alliance to anybody else. </p>

<p>I wouldn't say the Fourth Raikage is a "dumbass". If he didn't have at least a decent amount of knowledge to lead, then they wouldn't have elected him as the leader of the the village or alliance either. It takes more than just power to be put in charge. Otherwise things can go wrong. </p>

<p>The raikage fought sasuke while he was emotionally charge because he thought bee was dead. But against madara raikage fought well and composed and coordinate d with the other kages well. Neither raikage are idiots, they earned their title as raikage and have basic common sense and intelligence needed for their positions, but that's it. They aren't particular geniuses. Are the raikages really inyour top ten, or even your top 20 smartest naruto characters? Ninja of War's logic implies the third is smarter than shikamaru simply because he is a kage. </p>

<p>@MIGshinobi Nobody is saying that the Raikages are geniuses. They would require above-average intelligence if they were to properly maintain the Hidden Cloud village, which they did </p>

<p>Except I said that already. Intelligence is relative ultimately, and relative to the intelligence hype feats of other kages/ kage level shinobi they are average. </p>

<p>@MIGshinobi Well I wasn't commenting to Ninja's post, I was at yours and correcting you accusation of him being a "dumbass". I agree that he wasn't known or shown to have a strong and clever mind like Itachi has shown to and thus we can say Itachi is smarter but intelligence doesn't always make the cut. But the 3rd would have a sufficient amount of intelligence due to him being trusted to run his entire village, and has skill to back it up with. Intelligence doesn't make the battle. But power doesn't either. Frankly both have it, but I don't see Itachi winning. I've given reasons and facts to back it up. If you don't like it well then that is your problem. </p>

<p>And when exactly did I call the raikage a dumbass? I never did. Intelligence, like ever y other stat , is relative. Part one rock lee was fast, but there are chafacters who are faster. And it's how the stats match up in the battle. No one stat individually determines everything. You guys talk about how strong the armor of rhe raikage is when itachi can one shot him. Those ten thousand fodder shinobi obviously couldn't even scratch him. He battled the gyuki to a draw, sure that's also impressive, but what is the gyuki made of ? Flesh, even sasuke's chidori was able to cut it's tentacle off. The third raikage probably can tank a bijuu bomb and had the speed to evade the tentacles and the stamina to last. But that was purely a battle of brawns. So how is the battle match up versus itachi? Itachi has the firepower to kill him, he is smarter, he has the defenses to deal with the nukite, the only problem is the speed. Itachi had lower reserves than all his opponents, so I dont know why people act like this is something new. But you guys spamm the raikage being able to blitz around, when first of all, he is not as fast as his son, not even his son was blitzing around madara's susanoo like you guys claim he will and he ended up getting caught in genjustu. Killer bee is who , much slower was able to tag v2 4th raikage despite the " untouchable speed" . Speed isn't enough to win the battle. The third raikage CAN win the battle, but isn't anything like you guys claim. He is a close range fighter, where the chsnces of getting caught in genjustu are maximized. </p>