<p>So strong tht naruto rasengan broke it ok then. </p><p>Don´t compare bsm to spm mode not on the same lvl plz </p><p>@Ravenlot when naruto went inside the tsb he broke it with the rasengan </p>

<p>That KSM was meant to be equal to SPSM,but move was made before SPSM was created,so moot point.Edit:RASENGAN DIDNT DESTROY TSB SHIELD. </p>

<p>where is tht stated tht is equal to spsm? show me </p><p>ofc not just like guy didn't destroy madara tsb hahahah </p><p>we go by facts.fact tht mode is bsm not spsm unless u got a source saying otherwise </p>

<p>Logic. It was a stand in, in power, for SPSM since SPSM was not publicly released in the manga/anime yet. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Mcpowa wrote: where is tht stated tht is equal to spsm? show me </p><p>ofc not just like guy didn't destroy madara tsb hahahah </p><p>we go by facts.fact tht mode is bsm not spsm unless u got a source saying otherwise </p> </i></div>
<p>U are comparing guys attacks and sasukes XD. </p>

<p>@Quacking so u dont have any ok </p><p>@Kakashi nice dodges there hahahah since u got nothing to show u focus on my reference to guy and madara situation </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Kakashisologod wrote: They can.They are strong as obitos and madaras that werent broke by Susano arrows+multiple bijjudamas.Sasuke wasnt able to blitz naruto,he cant blitz toneri either. </p> </i></div>
<p>Sasuke kinda did. Teleported behind him and Chidori'd Naruto directly. If Naruto didn't have a his Tailed Beast chakra cloak, he'd have a gaping hole in his torso </p>

???Didnt he dodge it?

he blocked with the arm and the impact send him backwards

<p>@kakashi no he didn't. he took it full on, cuz he didn't have time to dodge (I just re-read that scene). Naruto is way faster, tougher, smarter, better reflexes, better sensor, and just more powerful overall. the Naruto that sasuke fought at the vote is at least twice as strong as the last Naruto that fought toneri. lets go my list of things that Naruto is stronger, and better at. 1st thing I put is speed. Naruto at vote was, like I said, at least twice as strong, and twice as fast, better sensing, better reflexes, tougher, but still couldn't dodge sasuke's ameno+chidori. this means that toneri has no chance dodging it either, and since he's less tough than Naruto. he is getting cut in half by that ameno+chidori combo easily. the only way for vote Naruto to fight sasuke when in ps, was to go into full kurama mode. since toneri is a tad stronger than the last Naruto, and this Naruto is, as I stated, half as strong as vote Naruto (no full kurama mode), toneri has to at least get 5 times stronger to defeat sasuke. chakra absorption- sasuke ameno's outta the way/ uses almighty push (not sure bout this one)/ or, if possible, might use he chakra-sucking-path to suck his own chakra back aka counter it. physically, toneri is faster and stronger, but sasuke was able to keep up with a ninja almost four times stronger than that, and he wasn't even at full power. golden whell reincarnation- lol if the last Naruto survived it at bsm, sasuke's full powered almighty push/ ps can survive it. easily. can toneri dodge amaterasu without being a sensor? nope. avoid genjutsu? nope (cuz he's nerver seen it before, and even if he did, he doenst know how a rinnegan/sharingan works anyways). if toneri actually hits sasuke when he doenst have any protection, the fight is over then and there. but the chances of it happening are sooooo small, it might no even be a thought in toneri's head. sasuke without ps might win. </p>