<div class="quote"><i> <p>J spencer93 wrote: Um Itachi wasn't trying to kill him. That is actually stated. Not sure why that is even trying to be refuted. </p> </i></div>
<p>My point is that he wasn't exactly holding back. Sure he could've finished Sasuke at certain moments (IE he could've stabbed Sasuke with the Totsuka blade in stead of Orochimaru), but the attacks he used, he wasn't holding back. He burned Sasuke with Amaterasu and only stopped when he thought he was dead (or close to it). He poked Sasuke's eyes out in Tsukuyome. This isn't someone going easy on him. </p><p>So no, he wasn't exactly going easy on Sasuke, other than not finishing when he had the chance. </p>

<p>@BlazeRelease </p><p>What are you even talking about? I never said Itachi should have used the same Tsukuyomi on teenage Sasuke that he used on him when he was a kid. it is possible the Tsukuyomi could have a watered down version. I mean Susanoo those and it's a MS technique. Sasuke experiencing the Tsukuyomi twice doesn't make him an expert, especially considering it was the same exact illusion/memory. And even so, Itachi already made the claim that someone with the Sharingan of the same bloodline could break it, making Sasuke's release from the genjutsu even less impressive. </p><p>@Thekillman </p><p>Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody said Itachi was going easy on him. What we said was he wasn't exactly trying to kill him. </p>

<p>@Thekillman did u read my post?When itachi used it against sasuke when he was 12 years old he did it so sasuke would hate him more and get stronger,when he was 16 itachi wanted sasuke to win. </p>

didn't Itachi used tsukuyome against Sasuke the day he killed his whole clan?I dont remember of that tsukyome doing any kinda of damage to Sasuke.

That was probably to show to him what he did.Pretty much the same as this tsukyomi just far less dangers.

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Rachin123 wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody said Itachi was going easy on him. What we said was he wasn't exactly trying to kill him. </p> </i></div>
<p>The point is that he nevertheless had to push sasuke close to death to even get the results he wanted. This includes nearly killing him with Amaterasu. With Zetsu on watch, it's not like he could go easy on Sasuke with his techniques. Like i said, he didn't follow through his opportunities, but the techniques he used were with the intent to kill, or else he wouldn't be able to push Sasuke to the edge without gathering attention from Zetsu. (I find it highly unlikely that Obito would want Itachi to die, as he still needed to retrieve a few dangerous Jinchuriki). </p><p>I guess it's similar to the fight against Kabuto, where they didn't want to kill him yet had to fight with the intent to kill to even pressure the guy. </p><p>Zetsu said that the Sharigan is still a weapon and Itachi seemed genuinely surprised Sasuke could even break out. Sasuke has copied moves simply by recalling how they worked (IE Lion's barrage). He had Sharingan when he was being Tsukuyome'd. If anyone had the papers to break it, it would be Sasuke. </p><p>As i said before, it's still genjutsu, it can still be broken. Either time dilation was in effect (in that case, Sasuke would have 3 days to break it in a fraction of a second) or Sasuke prevented it from taking hold. (We know Genjutsu can be resisted, so why not the time and space manipulation of Tsukuyome?). </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Rachin123 wrote: </p> And even so, Itachi already made the claim that someone with the Sharingan of the same bloodline could break it, making Sasuke's release from the genjutsu even less impressive.</i></div>
<p>I agree. </p>

<p>I thought Watered down Tsukuyomi meant lesser time dilation. 1 sec being equivalent to a week is a weaker Tsukuyomi than one in which 1 sec of real world is equivalent to a year in genjutsu
I read through most arguments and I quit agree with most of them as they all fit in the scenario. But here are a few conclusion I have made:
Non Uchiha can't even hope to survive this genjutsu. Most of the non uchihas would be dead if they get hit by it. They won't escape no matter what if they get caught.(think abt hashirama, tobirama etc)
Even among the uchihas most won't break, as the required condition was to be close relative. Even if we take EMS madara its highly unlikely he would be able to break it on his first try though perhaps he might become resistant to it on subsequent attempts like sasuke. </p>

<p>It has to be a blood relative such as a sibling and the sibling has to either have a MS, or a Senjutsu boosted Sharingan to break the full force Tsukuyomi, the watered down version can be broke by a strong Sharingan user. Also Sasuke does not need to enter CS2 to use its Senjutsu to boost his Sharingan.. he only needs it to spread a bit across his face.. so he most likely did that in real life to escape the watered down version. </p>

<p>Again, there's no evidence that Sasuke activated CS in the real time, so all the assumptions about some "senjutsu-boost of Sharingan" are merely assumptions. Also, Itachi said that only a "Sharingan user with the same blood as him" can break Tsukuyomi, he didn't even mention that MS is necessary. </p>

<p>Ok, so we can only assume that Fugaku and Sasuke could break a watered down Tsukuyomi then. Nobody else can. </p>