<div class="quote"><i> <p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Because sealing a chakra construct is very different from sealing an organism that happens to possess chakra. These are obviously entirely different things. The translation also says 'enemy' NOT 'anything'. Also, when TTJ-Madara attacked Obito when he realized Obito was stealing his chakra, Obito had already broken off PHYSICAL CONTACT with Madara, with only Madara's chakra connecting those two. So this still doesn't prove that Obito can physically attack Madara while being intangible. </p> </i></div>
<p>No obito didn't break physical contact when he was siphoning of his chakra when madara tried to take back his rinnegan but realized he was intangible, As matter of fact madara was the one who withdrew(on realizing that obito wa stealing his chakra away and inorder to prevent further loss) not obito. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Namikazenaruto9 wrote: No obito didn't break physical contact when he was siphoning of his chakra when madara tried to take back his rinnegan but realized he was intangible, As matter of fact madara was the one who withdrew(on realizing that obito wa stealing his chakra away and inorder to prevent further loss) not obito. </p> </i></div>
<p>True. I interpreted the flow of chakra from Madara to Obito's arm as them having broken off physical contact. That was not true. I take it back. </p>

<p>@Killer723 that some sword pierced SPSM naruto who tanked moon cutter sword btw. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>BakumatsuWarrior wrote: Because sealing a chakra construct is very different from sealing an organism that happens to possess chakra. These are obviously entirely different things. The translation also says 'enemy' NOT 'anything'. Also, when TTJ-Madara attacked Obito when he realized Obito was stealing his chakra, Obito had already broken off PHYSICAL CONTACT with Madara, with only Madara's chakra connecting those two. So this still doesn't prove that Obito can physically attack Madara while being intangible. </p> </i></div>
<p>Thank you. </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Namikazenaruto9 wrote: No obito didn't break physical contact when he was siphoning of his chakra when madara tried to take back his rinnegan but realized he was intangible, As matter of fact madara was the one who withdrew(on realizing that obito wa stealing his chakra away and inorder to prevent further loss) not obito. </p> </i></div>
<p>I already showed you the manga scan that proves obito can't attack while defending and you're still denying it. What happened with Madara was that Obito made himself intangible the moment Madara attacked and he became tangible again once Madara withdrew his attack, its as simple as that. </p>

<p>I think its shown and explained many time how kamui works. One pure example is kakashi , guy , Naruto VS Obito. </p><p>He cant strike back when he is intangible. </p><p>@kakashi it was sword from Toneri , and he was in his Tenseigan Mode using tremendous amount of chakra in true seeker Orb to create a sword. That is way above itachi league , and beside he need his mode huge amount of chakra and orbs to preform it , but here how people claim itachi can just form armored PS and seal anything it strikes, its like he has no drawbacks at all.Its kinda ridiculous. </p>

<p>Wait, people keep referencing Obito during the War. The OP clearly says, "Obito (before the 4 war)" I assume he means 4th War. Why are people talking about Obito head-butting Naruto and other stuff he only did after the war started? </p>

<p>U said sasukes sword is weak,i proved otherwise.Also rinnegan did not improve obitos strenght and speed @CyberianGinseng. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Kakashisologod1 wrote: Also rinnegan did not improve obitos strenght and speed @CyberianGinseng. </p> </i></div>
<p>Yes, because being able to summon the Gedo Statue, use the Six Paths of Pain, having shared vision, and being able to control 6 bijuu like toys isn't an increase in strength. </p>

<p>@BakumatsuWarrior Thank you, I really enjoy seeing you in debates. You spread a lot of knowledge and know quite a bit from what I've seen of you. I can't believe people actually believed pre-war Obito was equal to EMS Madara and that Itachi's Susano'o is invincible because of a hyperbole. I think the problem is that people take statements too literal, they don't infer things on their own and don't use any sort of feats, scaling or what's been canonly displayed to make their own assessment of things. </p><p>@NamikazeNaruto9 Obito cannot attack people while maintaining intangibility. It's how the 4th was able to outsmart and beat him. He's essentially a one trick pony pre-war. If you understand how his Kamui works (Cannot attack while being intangible, and can only maintain it for 4-5 minutes at a time.) And you attack faster than him, then you can beat him if you're attentive. There's honestly not much else to say, Itachi's stamina is bad and his Susano'o isn't beating a Perfect Susano'o despite Yata mirror hype. I think it's more than clear that Madara wins this handidly. </p>

<p>@ShadyShadow: Thanks bro ^_^ </p>