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ALL POSTSWho is the best teacher out of the Konoha 12?
<p>Actual teacher, not strongest Ninja. I'd like to know what everyone thinks of the others as teachers. It may be hard to judge some based on lack of screen time aka Kurenai, but we can go off some assumptions with her. Also like to see the reasoning behind your choices.
</p><p>1. Might Guy- Guy seems to be the best teacher to me just overall. While Lee was obviously his preferred student it was clear he still trained Neji and TenTen. It showed in the flashback he tried to teach them the gates as well, but Lee was the only one who could do it. His training regime built up his team's strength and he showed excellent judgement. More so then the other three teachers simply because he let his team train for a year to be better prepared for the chuunin exam instead of just throwing them into it after they had barely been genin for a month. If not for Gaara's team I'm pretty sure team Guy would have likely swept the chuunin exams. And don't brink up Naruto beating Neji, Naruto only won due to the fox.
</p><p>2.Asuma- Asuma was a great teacher and friend to Ino-Shika-Cho. The flash backs they had while fighting his edo-tensei form where kinda heartbreaking/warming. He helped Shikimaru be the leader he knew he could be, and Choji get some confidence in his abilities. Really the only thing holding him back from number one is he didn't seem to have taught Ino how to fight on her own. Choji and Shikimaru could fight on their own, but Ino seems to be useless in combat without her sqaudmates.
</p><p>3. Kurenai-Sadly we don't see much of Kurenai or her team. We see a brief image of the aftermath of her apparently strenuous training. We also see her express concerns over Hinata showing she cares for her team. Can't rank her higher then three, because her lack of screen time which is a shame because we hardly see any genjutsu users outside of sharingan users.
</p><p>4. Kakashi is the worst of the teachers out of the four. I don't hate Kakashi this is not a Kakashi bashing thread, but he is not a good teacher. Preshipuuden the only real training he ever did with them as a group was tree climbing training. When Sakura showed she was the best at it, he did nothing with her to help her get stronger. After the Zabuza arc it was painfully obvious Sakura was by far the weakest link on the team and out of the Konoha twelve. Ino at least had her clan abilities to boost her usefulness Sakura had nothing save for mastery of basics and seemingly innate chakra control. Neither of which were taught by Kakashi. It should have been abundantly clear she was not ready for the exam and would only drag the team down, but he went ahead and tossed them into the chuunin exams anyways.
</p><p>He then proceeded to only train Sasuke and utterly ignore the other two. Yes most teachers have their favorite student, but they don't ignore the others. This is a man who has copied a thousand jutsu he could have and should have taught them something for Sakura didn't have a clan nor did Naruto know he was a part of clan nor did he have access to any clan jutsu. Naruto also held a freaking force of nature in his body, so it seemed like a good idea to train your village's strongest asset so he could fight without just relying on brute force and possibly losing control, but no it's all about that golden boy Sasuke.
</p><p>It's only after Shippuden that he helps Naruto train and it's Yamato helping him mainly. He again ignores Sakura, but she has a niche now so it's not as bad when he ignored her before she had any direction. That's why he's the worst teacher to me.
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<p>Starscream1998 wrote:
Still, it's nice that Naruto as Hokage got a proper orphanage going on with Kabuto and Urushi which is a step up from his own childhood woes and this new Konoha looks like a therapy clinic would be right at home.
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<p>Oh yea, i agree. An orphanage was a much-needed addition considering how many kids likely grew up without parents. </p>
<p>Oh yea, i agree. An orphanage was a much-needed addition considering how many kids likely grew up without parents. </p>
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Believe it
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<p>I think Asuma is the Nr 1 teacher out of the four Konoha jonin senseis!! :D
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That's a nice thought.
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Its been a long time lol
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Sadly most of the teachers were either killed off or horribly underused and underdeveloped as is the curse of the Shounen Genre.
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<p>As fans we always complain about underused characters, and thats fair enough, but in the end we have to realize everyone can't get the spotlight, it would hinder the main cast. Nevertheless there are many people I find in ig saying Asuma is useless, Kurenai is useless, but honestly it has been implied numerous times they are among Konohas best ninjas, even though they dont have much story to tell about
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<p>Mushibrow wrote:
but honestly it has been implied numerous times they are among Konohas best ninjas, even though they dont have much story to tell about
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<p>Keep in mind that Naruto is a story about the 0.01% of top ninja. 99% of all ninja are of the fodder type. Literally. </p><p>Just look at the 4th war: 100 000 ninja were fielded. Assuming generously that that's around 1/5th the ninja population (about 1/5th would be significant others, 1/5th low genin and 2/5th non-utilized population, IE child ninja, untrained ninja or unrecruited ninja). </p><p>Look at the average village: regular people outnumber ninja easily 10 if not 100 to 1. This puts the average world population at around 5 to 50 million. </p><p>Look at how many characters we know. 100? 200? Of the 100 000 ninja in the war, that's .1%. Of the people in the world, that's basically nothing. And we've already seen a stark contrast between the ninja in the "known character" pool, ranging from pretty weak (e.g. Konohameru's friends) to godlike (e.g. naruto). So Naruto is pretty much the 1% of the 0.1%. </p><p>Characters like Kurenai, Asuma are really strong. Strong compared to the whole Ninja population. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that Naruto is a story about the 0.01% of top ninja. 99% of all ninja are of the fodder type. Literally. </p><p>Just look at the 4th war: 100 000 ninja were fielded. Assuming generously that that's around 1/5th the ninja population (about 1/5th would be significant others, 1/5th low genin and 2/5th non-utilized population, IE child ninja, untrained ninja or unrecruited ninja). </p><p>Look at the average village: regular people outnumber ninja easily 10 if not 100 to 1. This puts the average world population at around 5 to 50 million. </p><p>Look at how many characters we know. 100? 200? Of the 100 000 ninja in the war, that's .1%. Of the people in the world, that's basically nothing. And we've already seen a stark contrast between the ninja in the "known character" pool, ranging from pretty weak (e.g. Konohameru's friends) to godlike (e.g. naruto). So Naruto is pretty much the 1% of the 0.1%. </p><p>Characters like Kurenai, Asuma are really strong. Strong compared to the whole Ninja population. </p>
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<p>Mushibrow wrote:
As fans we always complain about underused characters, and thats fair enough, but in the end we have to realize everyone can't get the spotlight, it would hinder the main cast. Nevertheless there are many people I find in ig saying Asuma is useless, Kurenai is useless, but honestly it has been implied numerous times they are among Konohas best ninjas, even though they dont have much story to tell about
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<p>With all due respect I think that's not true, it is possible to focus on a larger cast IF you are willing to pace your story. Kishimoto didn't really do that, we had like one mission with Team 7 before thrusting them into the Chunin Exams. The main cast may have received all that spotlight but more spotlight does not equal well-developed characters e.g. Sakura got this real bad, the supposed main Heroine who is notorious in the fandom to the point a supporting character like Hinata is seen as vastly superior. Kishimoto should have either have done 2 things: </p><p>1) Killed off more characters, at the end of Naruto the cast is still laughably huge after the War Arc. By killing off more of the secondary or supporting characters you can focus on developing how that impacts the main cast as well as be able to focus on said main cast more without worrying that you're neglecting other characters. </p><p>2) Focused on more characters, creating more arcs and doing some actual world building rather than shelving out info as the plot demands. What annoys me is that Kishi was actually asked near the end of Naruto to pave the way for a potential part 3 which means if he had taken greater time and care with his story he'd actually be appeasing the demand for more material rather than shoehorning in elements of story that irredeemably suck i.e. Kaguya and the BS alien drama. </p><p>TL;DR version: You can shorten down your cast of characters or actually develop them. </p>
<p>With all due respect I think that's not true, it is possible to focus on a larger cast IF you are willing to pace your story. Kishimoto didn't really do that, we had like one mission with Team 7 before thrusting them into the Chunin Exams. The main cast may have received all that spotlight but more spotlight does not equal well-developed characters e.g. Sakura got this real bad, the supposed main Heroine who is notorious in the fandom to the point a supporting character like Hinata is seen as vastly superior. Kishimoto should have either have done 2 things: </p><p>1) Killed off more characters, at the end of Naruto the cast is still laughably huge after the War Arc. By killing off more of the secondary or supporting characters you can focus on developing how that impacts the main cast as well as be able to focus on said main cast more without worrying that you're neglecting other characters. </p><p>2) Focused on more characters, creating more arcs and doing some actual world building rather than shelving out info as the plot demands. What annoys me is that Kishi was actually asked near the end of Naruto to pave the way for a potential part 3 which means if he had taken greater time and care with his story he'd actually be appeasing the demand for more material rather than shoehorning in elements of story that irredeemably suck i.e. Kaguya and the BS alien drama. </p><p>TL;DR version: You can shorten down your cast of characters or actually develop them. </p>
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<p>I don't want the cast members to die, but I can agree with Starscream. He introduced so many characters that were more interesting then some of the main cast members we wanted to see more of them. Really a lot of Naruto was rushed and felt gross like that bs with Kaguya.
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