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ALL POSTSBecause Obito did not wake up rinnegan / Sarada with rinnegan
<p>In Naruto to awaken the rinnegan is much more difficult than arousing the tenseigan. To awaken the tenseigan it is necessary to implant the byakugan of a hyuuga in an ootsutsuki of the moon, by that logic to implant cells of an ootsutsuki of the moon in a hyuuga with byakugan would also work, as well as to implant the cells of hashirama (Ashura) in madara (Indra ) originated the rinnegan, and also the same would be valid if the eien no mangekyou of madara (Indra) in hashirama (Ashura) was implanted.
</p><p>The difference in difficulty lies in the fact that the rinnegan requires the EIEN NO MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN of a reincarnation of INDRA along with the cells (chakra) of an ASHURA reincarnation, while the tenseigan required a byakugan of a hyuuga and the cells (chakra) an ootsutsuki of the moon.
</p><p>The interpretation that it is only possible to awaken the rinnegan with the reincarnations of INDRA and ASHURA occurred coincidentally by the fact that only madara, Indra's reincarnation, managed the rinnegan by implanting hashirama cells (Ashura's reincarnation), and later, sasuke who is also Indra's reincarnation along with the other "half" Ashura won by the hagoromo.
</p><p>But my opinion is that this did not happen because they are reincarnations, but rather because they managed to reach the eien no mangekyou sharingan level. In the story of Naruto the only ones that reached that level were Indra, Madara and Sasuke, so Madara reached that level and got Senju cells and Sasuke also reached that level and got his own chakra of the hagoromo, thus getting them both to wake the rinnegan.
</p><p>I have already seen many asking why Obito did not awaken the rinnegan, the fact that Obito did not awaken the rinnegan was not because he was not a reincarnation of INDRA, but because he never achieved the level of EIEN NO MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN, besides the fact have only one sharingan.
</p><p>I see that Sarada has the possibility of awakening the rinnegan if she implanted the hashirama cells and if he reached the level of the eien no mangekyou sharingan.
</p><p>Agree?
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Boruto manga shows it as a detachable prosthetic. The arm ismt grafted on to Naruto.
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<p>Unless I was reading an errant translation, I'm of the understanding Kabuto healed Sasuke through the result of research into Hashirama's DNA, not the DNA itself.
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<p>Momoshiki and Urashiki destroy that theory of needing Sharingan. The fact that they even have Rinnegan shows that you don't need Hagoromo's Chakra anymore and therefore is retconned. How would they get Chakra from someone they never met? I used to somewhat think that it was possible that you needed EMS, but then they were introduced and that theory was no longer possible too me.
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<p>Except Momoshiki and Urashiki were on a diet of Divine Fruit pills, which is where Kaguya originally got her Rinne Sharingan. So, direct access to the Divine Fruit has to be a factor. </p><p>Moving on, what confuses me is why Sasuke's Rinnegan sports tomoe and Hagoromo's didn't. It makes me wonder what the difference is. </p><p>Regarding Sarada, however, the question is whether she's actually a reincarnation of Indra. While it's entirely likely, it still remains to be seen. If we're saying that's integral to gaining the Rinnegan (is that the consensus? I'm lost), then if she's not Indra's incarnation, she'd likely be just a Sharingan beneficiary. </p>
<p>Except Momoshiki and Urashiki were on a diet of Divine Fruit pills, which is where Kaguya originally got her Rinne Sharingan. So, direct access to the Divine Fruit has to be a factor. </p><p>Moving on, what confuses me is why Sasuke's Rinnegan sports tomoe and Hagoromo's didn't. It makes me wonder what the difference is. </p><p>Regarding Sarada, however, the question is whether she's actually a reincarnation of Indra. While it's entirely likely, it still remains to be seen. If we're saying that's integral to gaining the Rinnegan (is that the consensus? I'm lost), then if she's not Indra's incarnation, she'd likely be just a Sharingan beneficiary. </p>
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</p><p>And? There's no difference between what Naruto has and Obito and Madara's. They all can remove and replace theirs and still have the effects of the dna while having them. Naruto is affected by Hashirama's DNA, increasing his Regeneration. What evidence do you have that Naruto is not affected by the arm when everything else says otherwise? Just cause he doesn't have to rip it off and made a way to detach it? Lol.
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</p><p>And? There's no difference between what Naruto has and Obito and Madara's. They all can remove and replace theirs and still have the effects of the dna while having them. Naruto is affected by Hashirama's DNA, increasing his Regeneration. What evidence do you have that Naruto is not affected by the arm when everything else says otherwise? Just cause he doesn't have to rip it off and made a way to detach it? Lol.
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<p>I'm sorry, which chapter is it that confirm Naruto being affected by Hashirama's DNA? Also, Naruto's detachment is mechanical, not like Obito and Madara. </p>
<p>I'm sorry, which chapter is it that confirm Naruto being affected by Hashirama's DNA? Also, Naruto's detachment is mechanical, not like Obito and Madara. </p>
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</p><p>The Databook states anyone integrated with the cells of Hashirama have his regeneration. As far as I am aware, the arm is made of his DNA. That is why Naruto is listed as a user of his regeneration on the Regeneration Ability page. Therefore, Naruto is affected by the arm and proves that it is mostly organic. Why else would Hashirama's cells be involved? How else can Naruto maneuver every finger?
</p><p>Why does it matter if Naruto's hand can be detached or not? It's still made of Hashirama's cells. He still is listed as being affected by it. He still is connected to it.
</p><p>The community isn't even sure if what Naruto had was detachable like Momoshiki's Prototype and he could have ripped it off, tried the prototype and got a new one or reattached it like how Madara reattached a random Zetsu hand.
</p><p>What we know is the previous arm was made of Hashirama's cells and that Naruto was given regeneration because of it due to the Databook.
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<p>Sarada can't be Indra incarnate... the next pair of incarnates can be born only after both of the previous ones have died, that's been established.
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<p>Not to mention that the whole circle of hatred came to an end after VOTE2, so there is no reason for the 2 souls to reicarnate any further. Even after Naruto and Sasuke die, Asura and Indra will not move to other hosts...
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<p>Well, that's at least the impression we got. For all we know, they might, but the incarnates may always be buddies from now on :D
But even if it has ended, if I were you, I wouldn't be so hasty. For all we know, Sasuke might get yet another emo moment and after all carry his plan of immortality, controlling the world as a tyrant for all eternity, starting the cycle yet again _^
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<p>TBH, Hashirama also defeated Madara (the first time) and they became buddies again and build Konoha, similar to how Sasuke came back after VOTE2. Yet Madara went mad again and betrayed Hashirama, and ended up getting "killed". So at least according to history, another Sasuke EMO phase isn't unlikely at all. But this is a New Generation story, so i really doubt that Sasuke will become a main villain again.
</p><p>Also, if i recall correctly, Asura said that if Indra will reicarnate to bring evil, so will his soul, in order to stop him. But if Indra's soul is at peace and cured from hatred, i doubt they will reicarnate again after Naruto and Sasuke.
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Also, if i recall correctly, Asura said that if Indra will reicarnate to bring evil, so will his soul, in order to stop him. But if Indra's soul is at peace and cured from hatred, i doubt they will reicarnate again after Naruto and Sasuke.
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<p>It's anime only, doesn't count. </p>
<p>It's anime only, doesn't count. </p>
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