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ALL POSTSJonin Minato/Jiraiya(Sage) vs 4th Raikage/Killer Bee
<p>My personal opinion is that Minato/Jiraiya take this. However, not because of Minato. As proven when Raikage and Killer Bee duo put Minato in his place. However, I think Jiraiya will stop them and defeat them. Nagato had pretty much admitted Jiraiya would’ve won if he knew their secret. Nagato held his own against Itachi, Killer Bee and KCM Naruto. And a couple episodes before Killer Bee proved he was stronger than Ay and in the flashback he proved his reflexes were faster than Minato’s(jonin at least). I have this whole other theory about how Hokage Minato is different than Jonin Minato but that’s another story.
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It's pointless using "blip logic" (gonna use blip now) against the person in question. If logic doesn't work, why would blip logic? But it's important to consider all views in a critical manner, don't be tempted to simply disregard all...."exotic" claims.
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<p>I only used it so he couldn't counter unless he discredits himself. He wouldn't actually counter my points with factual things so, I used his own words against him and it worked. Now I think he might think twice before using such logic again, lest it be used against him in the future. </p>
<p>I only used it so he couldn't counter unless he discredits himself. He wouldn't actually counter my points with factual things so, I used his own words against him and it worked. Now I think he might think twice before using such logic again, lest it be used against him in the future. </p>
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<p>8 tails = killer bee...just like in the last thread like this i replied to, i say it ends with interference...i think you all know who by
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<p>Ok... first off I would like to start off by addressing a confusion on how Itachi's name showed up 126 times in this forum.
</p><p>Also. Didn't Killer Bee, after technically beating Sasuke, state the Sasuke was the toughest person he had ever faced despite having faced Minato? So according to B, MS Sasuke is stronger than Minato, B technically proved himself to be stronger than MS Sasuke, and I think its safe to say Pain is stronger than MS Sasuke and Killer B. And that's why I had said Jiraya>MS Sasuke>Minato. Pain>B>A. Still concluding that Jiraiya and Minato take this.
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<p>Quadraticequation wrote:
Ok... first off I would like to start off by addressing a confusion on how Itachi's name showed up 126 times in this forum.
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<p>it's cuz of power scaling but still...bee is the 8 tails so interference :P </p>
<p>it's cuz of power scaling but still...bee is the 8 tails so interference :P </p>
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<p>Quadraticequation wrote:
And that's why I had said Jiraya>MS Sasuke>Minato. Pain>B>A. Still concluding that Jiraiya and Minato take this.
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<p>Feats>>>>statements. The way you ranked those character is just wrong mate, considering most of em actually fought each other but are still on the opposite side where they belong. For example Ms sasuke and Killer Bee. Imo Jiraiya is weakest on that list. </p>
<p>Feats>>>>statements. The way you ranked those character is just wrong mate, considering most of em actually fought each other but are still on the opposite side where they belong. For example Ms sasuke and Killer Bee. Imo Jiraiya is weakest on that list. </p>
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<p>Quadraticequation wrote:
And that's why I had said Jiraya>MS Sasuke>Minato. Pain>B>A. Still concluding that Jiraiya and Minato take this.
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<p>Feats>>>>statements. The way you ranked those character is just wrong mate, considering most of em actually fought each other but are still on the opposite side where they belong. For example Ms sasuke and Killer Bee. Imo Jiraiya is weakest on that list. </p> </div> <p>So what's your ranking of them. JW </p>
<p>Feats>>>>statements. The way you ranked those character is just wrong mate, considering most of em actually fought each other but are still on the opposite side where they belong. For example Ms sasuke and Killer Bee. Imo Jiraiya is weakest on that list. </p> </div> <p>So what's your ranking of them. JW </p>
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So what's your ranking of them. JW
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<p>Minato>MS Sasuke> Pein >Killer Bee> Ay>Jiraiya. </p><p>Ay vs pein is debateable </p>
<p>Minato>MS Sasuke> Pein >Killer Bee> Ay>Jiraiya. </p><p>Ay vs pein is debateable </p>
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<p>The thing about Kakashi saying Minato was unsurpassable is kind of biased actually. I mean he’s obviously going to look up to his sensei the most. As far as Minato blitzing Raikage goes, Raikage has marked all the location of the kunai. His fist was a couple inches away from Minato’s cheek, when Minato suddenly teleported to B. Had the fight continued, Minato had no other marking Raikage didn’t note.
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<p>Jiraiya said it too. Also the Raikage said similar praise. Konoha also wished Minato was around to deal with Orochimaru. Not Jiraiya.
</p><p>Even though Ay noted all kunai, he already demonstrated he didn't have the speed to get past Minato's reflexes with FTG
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Jiraiya said it too. Also the Raikage said similar praise. Konoha also wished Minato was around to deal with Orochimaru. Not Jiraiya.
</p><p>Even though Ay noted all kunai, he already demonstrated he didn't have the speed to get past Minato's reflexes with FTG
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<p>I think there is a subtle difference in what Hiruzen said and what is inferred. Hiruzen wished that Minato was there instead of Hiruzen, given Hiruzen is super old. He never stated Minato was the only one who could take him down. </p><p>P.S.: I’m really interested in seeing where this convo/debate goes. However, I feel like it, including myself, are slipping from the main point, given that was pretty much unanimously concluded. I will make another thread specifically dedicated to this. </p>
<p>I think there is a subtle difference in what Hiruzen said and what is inferred. Hiruzen wished that Minato was there instead of Hiruzen, given Hiruzen is super old. He never stated Minato was the only one who could take him down. </p><p>P.S.: I’m really interested in seeing where this convo/debate goes. However, I feel like it, including myself, are slipping from the main point, given that was pretty much unanimously concluded. I will make another thread specifically dedicated to this. </p>
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