<div class="quote"><i> <p>Senjutsu Sage wrote: "First, the juubi... it wasn't just the holy tree. my mother was part of it to. it wasn't the incarnation of the holy tree that was trying to take back it's chakra fruit. it was my mothers WILL, that was trying to take back the chakra.... that was shared between her two sons." </p><p>this is what i read. the ten tails is similar to how kaguya made zetsu. y'all fooled me and actually made me feel stupid. she didn't merge with any tree. she willed it into existence </p> </i></div>
<p>The only one who made you feel stupid is you. Even in that translation you quoted, Black Zetsu said that both the god tree and Kaguya were part of the Ten-Tails; ergo, she merged with the god tree. </p>

<p>Definitely, there was absolutely no trigger for those feelings. Nothing was done or nothing was said </p><p>That translation is more telling me that the Ten Tails wasn't only the god tree but Kaguya's will incarnate with an set instruction to take back her chakra. She manifested the Ten Tails from the god tree with her will. With her will, and the immense power she had after eating the chakra fruit (Hope I make sense. As I barely do) </p><p>She never merged with the tree </p>

<p>What translation are you looking at? Every one I've read/watched made it pretty clear she merged with the tree. What's more, the Fourth Databook says she did, which is what the wiki references when detailing the event. </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Senjutsu Sage wrote: definitely, there was absolutely no trigger for those feelings. nothing was done or nothing was said </p><p>that translation is more telling me that the ten tails wasn't only the god tree but kaguya's will incarnate with an set instruction to take back her chakra. she manifested the ten tails from the god tree with her will. with her will, and the immense power she had after eating the chakra fruit (hope I make sense. as I barely do) </p><p>she never merged with the tree </p> </i></div>
<p>What feelings are you even talking about? I simply stated that you, yourself, are to blame for feeling stupid... which is true </p><p>In the translation you used, Black Zetsu literally said that Kaguya was part of the Ten-Tails. It wasn't the god tree that was coming after the brothers, but Kaguya herself. Think for a second. How was Kaguya sealed by her sons, when Hagoromo stated that he and Hamura sealed the Ten-Tails? </p><p>She did indeed merge with the tree </p>

<p>"What translation are you looking at?" </p><p>The excerpt i quoted up there directly from the manga </p><p>"Every one I've read/watched made it pretty clear she merged with the tree." </p><p>She willed the Ten Tails into existence in the anime and manga. Kaguya Otsutsuki never merged with the god tree. Isshiki in the Boruto manga talks to his ten tails about, "Not being able to eat him yet". What ever transpires between him and that thing, that's what i'll consider merged. And what the hell? How is that thing even existing, with him not being merged with it? (As is obvious to see). Ohhhh. He did the same thing as Kaguya? That makes sense </p><p>"What's more, the Fourth Databook says she did, which is what the wiki references when detailing the event." </p><p>Would you mind quoting exactly what the databook said? As I did with the manga? If that's possible </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Senjutsu Sage wrote: she willed the ten tails into existence in the anime and manga. kaguya otsutsuki never merged with the god tree. isshiki in the boruto manga talks to his ten tails about, "not being able to eat him yet". what ever transpires between him and that thing, that's what i'll consider merged. and what the hell? how is that thing even existing with him not being merged with it? (as is obvious to see). ohhhh. he did the same thing as kaguya? that makes sense </p> </i></div>
<p>Are you even listening? Black Zetsu said that Kaguya was part of the Ten-Tails, with the god tree being the other part and that it was her that hunted down the brothers, not the god tree. It was been stated and shown multiple times that Hagoromo and Hamura sealed away Kaguya. Black Zetsu even pointed out that Hagoromo was mistaken in believing that the god tree was coming after him and his brother. Therefore, Kaguya merged with the god tree </p><p>The anime backstory is completely wrong </p>

<p>More lies. Please go and re read chapter 670 </p><p>The anime is far from wrong. You guys are are far from right </p>

<p>If it helps clear anything up, here's everything we know about Kaguya being the Ten-Tails in the manga: </p><p>In chapter 681, Naruto is suprised when Black Zetsu says the Ōtsutsuki brothers used their seal on Kaguya, since he was told they used it on the Ten-Tails. We then get the truth revealed: </p> <div class="quote"><i>Black Zetsu: First off, Ten-Tails... is not just the God Tree... It is Mother herself, as well.</i></div>
<p>But then he starts talking about how the Ten-Tails was following Kaguya's will, leaving it unclear whether she actually was the beast or simply created it. However, the fourth databook's shinobi compendium clears it up: </p> <div class="quote"><i>"Devising a plan to absorb their chakra, [Kaguya] integrated with the God Tree and challenged the twins to battle... The twins, assuming that Ten-Tails was an incarnation of the God Tree, and that it had attacked them to recover the chakra from its stolen fruit, met it head on. After a desperate struggle, they invoked Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. Transforming it into the moon, they sealed it away."</i></div>
<p>This backs up what Black Zetsu says in the manga. After he reveals that the Ten-Tails was trying to reclaim all chakra for Kaguya, he says that even Hagoromo himself was unaware of this fact, which would be impossible if he saw Kaguya create the Ten-Tails like he did in the anime. The anime's writers apparently noticed this problem too, because they slightly altered Black Zetsu's dialogue so he doesn't say this part. They also added extra dialogue where Sasuke says Hagoromo must have known his mother would return, but then... why wouldn't he just tell them that? There's no reason for him to hide the truth and pretend Ten-Tails was just the God Tree if he knew better. </p><p>The other key piece of evidence that Kaguya actually is the Ten-Tails is how she was revived in the first place. Apparently, the only way to revive her is to restore the Ten-Tails and then have it absorb an enormous amount of chakra, allowing her to turn back, which would be weird if the Ten-Tails was a completely separate being. Plus, when she turns into the unstable rabbit Ten-Tails, Black Zetsu is surprised because it wasn't a willing transformation, implying she has willingly become the Ten-Tails at least once before. There's also the fact that the anime shows Kaguya getting sealed in the moon rather than the Ten-Tails, but then in the present the beast's husk is somehow in there instead. </p><p>It's easy to see how the anime writers got things mixed up, since this information is presented in such a confusing manner, but it's also important to remember that those Kaguya episodes were filled with tons of other mistakes as well, including really obvious stuff like Hagoromo creating the tailed beasts before Asura was born and toads somehow using Water Release before they even had chakra. </p>

<p>"Devising a plan to absorb their chakra, [Kaguya] integrated with the God Tree and challenged the twins to battle... The twins, assuming that Ten-Tails was an incarnation of the God Tree, and that it had attacked them to recover the chakra from its stolen fruit, met it head on. After a desperate struggle, they invoked Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. Transforming it into the moon, they sealed it away." </p><p>This really means they thought the tree mutated on it's own. Zetsu means they thought the tree mutated on it's own, to take back it's chakra </p><p>"The other key piece of evidence that Kaguya actually is the Ten-Tails is how she was revived in the first place. Apparently, the only way to revive her is to restore the Ten-Tails and then have it absorb an enormous amount of chakra, allowing her to turn back, which would be weird if the Ten-Tails was a completely separate being." </p><p>But if the Ten Tails is like, Kaguya's will incarnate. Isn't something like that automatically possible, since she created it with her power? Even hagoromo manifested from Juubidara. And he's not the Ten Tails. Or the one to nine tails (That he created with his power from the ten tails) </p><p>But then there's Zetsu..... Hmmmmmm 🤔 </p>

<p>I suppose it is somewhat open to interpretation, given how Kaguya "merging" with the God Tree is only mentioned those two times. However, even if they really were meant to be separate, we can say with certainty that Kishimoto intended for the Ten-Tails to be the one that got sealed in the moon and not Kaguya, since it's said explicitly in both the manga and several places in the databook. So if the anime's version of events got such a massive plot point wrong, among other things, I don't really see a reason consider the rest of what those episodes show as accurate, at least when talking about the manga. It's obviously still "correct" within the anime continuity, since we saw it happen and all. </p>