Yet you make no valid points? @Facemaker0

This is basically your argument

Why because i'm backing up my arguments up with more than "nu-uh i'm right because i say so"

I have but your only argument is different method , he using chakra

luffy can haki energy vs energy debunked

Dropping out of this if we're going to devolve into insults.

Naruto stomps gear 3rd luffy because he's too slow while using it

Your only argument is it’s filler

@Facemaker0 you understand they're different things right? you're literally just saying "Im right, and you're wrong. I don't need to prove my statements"

Also no, their arguments aren't just "It's filler". Have you even paid attention to this at all?

Dude haki, ki, chakra , magic is all energy based

But from different anime universes, where they all work in different ways