This all comes down to Jiraya.

Jiraya against the strongest enemy wouldn't do anything. Intelegence in that fight wouldn't matter either you'd just be dead.

Your basically saying Jiraya > Isshiki in a fight because his smarter.

Bro what no they can't tell the difference between Shadow clones and Humans are because that they're SHADOWS lmfao.

That's like saying a normal human would be able to sense they're own shadow behind them since it's made by the light 💀

Nope. I never said that ready my argument wisely...

When it comes to certain expertise certain people will be at par. Jiraiya since had many experiences it is possible that he may win. Because in real battle or war.. experience matters

And about chakra, stamina...etc these are pre requisite though.

If your going off of feats.....

Kakashi Trained The 3 Greatest Shinobi Ever

Became Hokage Younger Than Tobirama

Copied 1000 Jutsu

Stronger Than Tobirama

Smarter Than Tobirama

Just go and watch the anime and read manga + narutopedia.

And think

Now i am giving you fact and logic and this is your response. Forgodsake.

Experience doesn't mean anything, if your faster and stronger you blitz and One-shot.

Ok think whatever you want.

STOP SAYING GO READ THE MANGA AND ANIME CAUSE YOUR GIVING NO PROOF YOURSELF, SAYING EXPERIENCE ISN'T PROOF 🤦‍♂️ when I asked you to find where you showed an actual true fact you literally ignored it cause you knew you didn't give any proof this whole time.

Kakashi intelligent stats from the databooks literally say that he had a 14.5/15 on all databooks.

@PjsherEEN

Whoever has the bigger and faster gun wins

The fact you gave were not updated additionally there are no databook record for tobirama is there any?