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@MomisOmams imo (u can say ur own opinion, I don’t mind) luffy stomps.
Luffy does indeed win this
It was only a gamble for Tsunade, Mabui think that the Raikage could do it. Haku be light speed debunk your argument.
Kakashi doesn't know the ability of Kurama he was shock when he see Naruto heal himself. Chakra are connected to the internal organs. Naruto have two chakra flow in his body, his normal chakra flow and the kurama's chakra flow. Neji damage him yet he resist it by heal himself via Kurama's chakra, just like how he was able to heal himself when Sasuke damage his internal organ and was able to heal it.
I never claim that Neji didn't stop his chakra flow, he was alble to make his chakra flow work again. Even in your own scan Neji see that something was going wrong
It was never stated that mabui thought the raikage could do it what she said was that people will not be able to move that fast and can end up dying if they tried. This was not just directed at tsunade. Even shikamarus father said it’s a risk even after raiakge said he would join the trip.
Now your contradicting him being able to withstand durability negation. Your saying naruto had to heal himself witch means he still took damage from the inside but had to heal it. Witch still doesn't make him resistent to such. Kakashi is just saying you can't strenghten internal organs, what kurama is doing is healing narutos organs who was hurt by a low tier pressure point movement. If naruto didn't have a second chakra source he would be paralized/dead. Being able to heal isn't enough, let’s say luffy coudl destroy a metor witch he can he would literally make narutos inside into must before naruto can heal himself.
Again this is not what being able to resist durability negation is. This is simply healing. Literally contradicted yourself. Luffy’s doesn't stop his chakra network but rather attacks his internal organs directly, rather then internal organ damage being a consequens of no chakra.
Again no scans just your world
You are not making sense. Naruto have a 2nd chakra flow and Kurama have heal him from internal damage so luffy be able to damage him doesn't matter and his Kurama chakra cloak can shield him, Ap doesn't equal to durability negation. Naruto have litteraly heal his internal organ when it was danage.
It's resisting it, I never said that Naruto have a immunity to durability negaton. the chakra network and the internal organs are connected in Naruto.
Your ignoring my argument
yes ap equals durability negation when he’s literally using his haki witch he has surrounded himself with to directly attack the organs witch means any character in naruto would die unless they don't have organs.he has a second chakra flow witch doesn't matter since he doesn't have a second set of organs. Luffy attacks the organs directly not just the chakra flow like neji.
As explained here in a similar ability frog strike witch is explained to literally be a one shot because nobody can strenghten their internal organs, a strong hit with arnament or frog strike would kill naruto or luffy. And no naruto can't heal if his heart/brain has been destroyed
Again Mabui is not talking about A, she's talking about Tsunade, your scan doesn't prove that Mabui think that A couldn't do it.
So if you are saying that ap is equal to durablity negation than is someone have a greater durability than Luffy' ap then his durability Nagation whould not work. Naruto litteraly heal his entire lung that was destroy by a chidori. Again Naruto characters have a different physiology then the on piece characters. They chakra network and internal organs are connected
In the manga Naruto use it on the four-tail, yet he was not one-shot. Naruto have heal a internal organs before
. She said it was only for transporting objects and she said that it’s to fast for the body and people will most likely end up dying. My point is that, they shouldn't be scared to make them travel lightspeed if tsunade and ay already could go lightspeed, the only one who was able to teleport there was the third raikage. Quote* Raikage-sama too??!! She said with a stressed face if you look in the manga
This is also accurate with the story since lightfang was described to be impossible to dodge because it moved at the speed of light. And naruto couldn't even see the beam witch was lightspeed, only the swing.
No becasue naruto can't strenghten his organs only heal them to a degree his durability witch is his protecting layer.
As explained here the network is connected to the organs. Neji only attacked the network witch leads to damage to the organs but not enough damage to kill him. Luffy directly attacks whatever is inside in the body both the network and organs will turn to must because naruto’s organs doesn't have durability. For example narutos heart can't withstand an attack as strong as a island or something.
Naruto cannot heal himelf more then what has been shown. This would be no limit fallacy.
The Raikage was confident that he could survive it and he did survive in his base, so it doesn't matter what Mabui think. Mabui was the only one who was scared. A prove her wrong by surviving it. The litteraly kept up with the jutsu when they attack madara at same time while they where in the jutsu so Mabui get debunked.
Manga is above the databook, the manga contradict the databook. Your have no scan yet again, the databook even contradict itself because it have call many attack light speed that people dodge.
Where is your prove that he can't strenghten his organs
Neji attack both, Neji send his attack directly into the body. Where is your prove that he can't, in the last while in base Naruto survive and attack of his own chakra explosion inside his body, the only reason why he pass out was because he was out of chakra
That is not a no limit fallacy, Naruto have heal intenal organs before, Neji litteraly shut down all 64 chakra point inside his body witch are connected to his organs, yet Naruto could heal all of them
Again not my point, tsuande was also confident, i’m saying mabui would not be stressed about him taking the machine if she already knew he could go lightspeed. And they would not need to take the machine since he’s already lightspeed and he knew where the location was because they are literally sitting at the HQ.
I think every major lightspeed databook statement was from before they said the speed is to fast for people to withstand. Witch means what happens after isn't a contradiction. Witch means lightfang can be used to scale. naruto was unable to react to the light speed beam witch went by his head, naruto was able to react to the swing witch means light is even faster then so6p naruto
You showed it to me it was stated by kakashi, and you have no proof naruto can strenghten his organs because there are no statements that says he can do it. He can only heal them to a degree. Show me the scene from the last
"The user then delivers a series of attacks to a target that is within the symbol's perimeter, striking sixty-four of their tenketsu. Those sixty-four tenketsu are subsequently blocked, stopping the flow of chakra within the target's body and making it difficult for them to move"
Neji’s attack only attacks the chakra network if the chakra network is stopped it causes damage to the organs. Neji only attacked the network.
That doesn't mean he can heal his organs, he didn't restore his organs he restored his chakra. Just becasue all his chakra network was blocked doesn’t mean all his organs died. If that was the case naruto would die before using 9tails chakra because his brain would stop working and he would die. It’s a no limit fallacy since naruto has not showed being able to heal more then a lung if sombody with the power to destroy an island hit me from the inside there would be no organs left in me.
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