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Again Mabui is not talking about A, she's talking about Tsunade, your scan doesn't prove that Mabui think that A couldn't do it.
So if you are saying that ap is equal to durablity negation than is someone have a greater durability than Luffy' ap then his durability Nagation whould not work. Naruto litteraly heal his entire lung that was destroy by a chidori. Again Naruto characters have a different physiology then the on piece characters. They chakra network and internal organs are connected
In the manga Naruto use it on the four-tail, yet he was not one-shot. Naruto have heal a internal organs before
. She said it was only for transporting objects and she said that it’s to fast for the body and people will most likely end up dying. My point is that, they shouldn't be scared to make them travel lightspeed if tsunade and ay already could go lightspeed, the only one who was able to teleport there was the third raikage. Quote* Raikage-sama too??!! She said with a stressed face if you look in the manga
This is also accurate with the story since lightfang was described to be impossible to dodge because it moved at the speed of light. And naruto couldn't even see the beam witch was lightspeed, only the swing.
No becasue naruto can't strenghten his organs only heal them to a degree his durability witch is his protecting layer.
As explained here the network is connected to the organs. Neji only attacked the network witch leads to damage to the organs but not enough damage to kill him. Luffy directly attacks whatever is inside in the body both the network and organs will turn to must because naruto’s organs doesn't have durability. For example narutos heart can't withstand an attack as strong as a island or something.
Naruto cannot heal himelf more then what has been shown. This would be no limit fallacy.
The Raikage was confident that he could survive it and he did survive in his base, so it doesn't matter what Mabui think. Mabui was the only one who was scared. A prove her wrong by surviving it. The litteraly kept up with the jutsu when they attack madara at same time while they where in the jutsu so Mabui get debunked.
Manga is above the databook, the manga contradict the databook. Your have no scan yet again, the databook even contradict itself because it have call many attack light speed that people dodge.
Where is your prove that he can't strenghten his organs
Neji attack both, Neji send his attack directly into the body. Where is your prove that he can't, in the last while in base Naruto survive and attack of his own chakra explosion inside his body, the only reason why he pass out was because he was out of chakra
That is not a no limit fallacy, Naruto have heal intenal organs before, Neji litteraly shut down all 64 chakra point inside his body witch are connected to his organs, yet Naruto could heal all of them
Again not my point, tsuande was also confident, i’m saying mabui would not be stressed about him taking the machine if she already knew he could go lightspeed. And they would not need to take the machine since he’s already lightspeed and he knew where the location was because they are literally sitting at the HQ.
I think every major lightspeed databook statement was from before they said the speed is to fast for people to withstand. Witch means what happens after isn't a contradiction. Witch means lightfang can be used to scale. naruto was unable to react to the light speed beam witch went by his head, naruto was able to react to the swing witch means light is even faster then so6p naruto
You showed it to me it was stated by kakashi, and you have no proof naruto can strenghten his organs because there are no statements that says he can do it. He can only heal them to a degree. Show me the scene from the last
"The user then delivers a series of attacks to a target that is within the symbol's perimeter, striking sixty-four of their tenketsu. Those sixty-four tenketsu are subsequently blocked, stopping the flow of chakra within the target's body and making it difficult for them to move"
Neji’s attack only attacks the chakra network if the chakra network is stopped it causes damage to the organs. Neji only attacked the network.
That doesn't mean he can heal his organs, he didn't restore his organs he restored his chakra. Just becasue all his chakra network was blocked doesn’t mean all his organs died. If that was the case naruto would die before using 9tails chakra because his brain would stop working and he would die. It’s a no limit fallacy since naruto has not showed being able to heal more then a lung if sombody with the power to destroy an island hit me from the inside there would be no organs left in me.
Your point is debnk because A survive the jutsu while he was only in his base. It was Tsunade idea to use the jutsu not A idea. Tsunade was only confident because she could heal herself.
It's litteraly a contradiction they said that Mifune can slash his sword at light speed yet Sasuke was able to react and block his attack. You know that in the picture that you show that Madara limbo clone was holding Naruto and that didn't happen like that in the manga.
It was your claim that he can't o you have to prove it to me, When Kakashi stated that he had no information on KCM Naruto
That is my point Neji attack affect both your chakra network and yours internal organs, that doesn't debunk anything
Is that a joke? I show you a scan of Naruto regenerate his lung, you are just in denial. I never said that all his organs died, i said that they where affected/damaged. Again the lung is a internal organs, just like the others organs so it's logical to say that he can heal others internal organs. I have already told you that in the last Naruto survive an explosion that explose from his inside that have multi-continental calc, the only reason why he pass out was because he was out of chakra
Not my point i’m saying it was not if they where able to survive or not my point is that mabui wouldn't need to be stressed about him taking the teleport if she already knew he could move at light speed ( here i am reffering to the manga panel where she said raikage-sama too??!! With a stressed face) The only thing you need is a study body. I also reiterate that they coudl have arrived much earlier and could avoid taking a gamble if they ran their themsleves witch wouldn't take much time at all since they know the location since they are at the HQ and that if ay was close to lightspeed coudl easily has gotten there themselves.
Mifunes feat is contradicted with what my first section was talking about, what happens after contradicts what happens before. Prove it to me i reiterate that naruto was unable to react to light against madara only his swing.
That’s not how it works i already have a comment on it witch supports the narrative that ( you can't strenghten internal organs) you have to show me a statement witch proves this otherwise. Kurama is basically just a chakra source by your logic anyone with a huge enough chakra source could strenghten their organs witch has never been proven. "Nobody can strenghten their internal organs" has no anti statements.
I’m truing to say that neji’s attack and luffys are two seperate durability negation, and that they don't cause the same damage. Luffy uses his power from haki and transforms most of his outside strenght to transfer that energy into the opponents body let’s lowball luffys attacks to continental and naruto would need continental amount ot durability with his organs witch is completly unreasonable when they have already established that you can't strenghten internal organs
What? Yes ofcourse if luffy only made a hole in narutos lung then he could heal it. Affected/damaged is a understatement when something of a continental force hits you from the insideout. His organs will literally be turned into mush, this is common sense. Naruto has not proven to be able to heal the heart for example, and again heal is differnet from actually having to regenerate a organ witch he literally would need to do.
Prove to me that this damage happened from inside of him. Only thing i see whats that it happened around him on the moon
Again, the Raikage know more about himself than Mabui, you are just arguing semantics. The Raikage was not stressed. That doesn't matter also because we see that the Raikage i s able to move while he's in the jutsu. Again i never said that base Tsunade is light speed, it was Tsunade idea not A idea, also there is difference betwen traval speed and combat speed.
That is my point the databook contradicted itself on the light speed in Naruto, Mifune was not the only one, it also stated that itachi water bullet is light speed yet kakashi reacted to it and Haku mirro jutsu is light speed yet kn0 naruto could kept up with her and might guy and lee could react to him. even the anbu where state to be light speed. You can't just pick aand chose. You are using the anime, we are talking about the manga showing a anime scan doen't matter
What luffy is doing is internal organs, just like Neji, you are arguing semantics again
Omg Naruto litteraly get his lung destroy then regenerate it. I show you a scan of Naruto regenerating an organ you are talking none sense
I'm done with this debate
TL;DR someone summarize this for me please.
Mabui was stressed about raiakge taking the travel machine, the raiakage is famous for his speed, if he was just as fast as thetravel machine then she would not need to look stressed. Tsunade wasn't stressed either, all it needed was a durable body. I reiterate that he could easily have travelled there himslef if he was had the same soeed as the travel machine. Mabui is a reliable source she is is assistant and has knowledge on both the third raikage and ay himself.
How does the light fang contradict hhe other stuff? What happens before can't really debunk the authors intentions later in the series. The mabui thing directly contradict the hyperboles witch was stated in the databooks early in the series. Kakashi was stated to be able to cut lightning witch was even stated to be an impressive feat if kakashi was lightning level then there is no way he could dodge lightspeed. I am using both manga and the databook stuff witch is not contradicted with things that happen later in the series witch you are using. Peolle can't endure going lightspeed mabui said then you proceed to basically mean the anbu are just durable as ay and tsuande because they can already mive lightspeed witch is jsut ad fast as so6p double precog.
Luffy is attacking the organs on a much larger scale unlike neji who just presses the chakra points when he literally doens't even scale to boulder level at that point in the series.
Based on the picture sasuke only stabbed the right side of his top part of his lung witch he proved himslef to be able to heal. My point is naruto has not been shown to regenerate more organs at the same time or more vital organs such as the brain and heart. Naruro has neither been able to prove him being able to regenerate a whole organ only heal one partly damaged
What do you think?