102 Votes in Poll
• The Naruto anime is not canon.
Yes it is 💀 It's secondary canon and since the panel barely showed anything we have to use the anime so that we can see it animated properly and see how it actually went.
• reaction speed and reflexes have nothing to do with travel speed.
Depends, if someone dodges a light beam point blank then they are FTL in travel speed too as they were fast enough to move out of the way meaning they are faster than the SOL beam.
• That is not conceding, I have give my argument then I say that I didn't want to debate anymore, it's me saying that i'm good with me argument
That's literally conceding, concede is synonymous to forfeiting or giving up. And that's exactly what you did.
Prove to me that it’s not canon, i can use anime feats as long as they don't contradict the manga. I am also already using a feat that was the same in both.
Naruto was able to react to the swing and not the beam witch expanded i even showed you a scan with direct lines witch you ignored. Lol
Prove to me that it is a name fallacy. You haven't debunked that argument, mabui knows the raikage and she would not have had a stressed face if she already knew he could move at lightspeed. Even then he could have ran to the battlefield himslef witch would take less time then the machine but he didn't. Mabui thought he would survive only becasue he had a durable
Your debating me who follow basic rules so people like tou doesn't make up things.
Moving in her machine only needs a durable body not to be able to move that fast themselves. They came out of the light speed machine before attacking madara even using basic knowledge if raiakge already was stated to only move close to lightspeed he would not be able to react to seeing madara before after the machine he was traveling with was finished.
Narutos internal organs wasn't shown to take dmaage from neji. Implying that his chakra wasn't gone for long enough for it to affect the organs. Luffy transferes his ap into the opponents body on a much higher scale not proven by naruto to withstand. Even the databook for frog strike demmed a attack similar to that luffy are using to be unsurvivable.
Naruto has only been shown to regenerate a part of a lung not an entire organ. If luffy hit his heart for example naruto would have died on the spot because he has not been proven to survive such things.
And neither of those are combat speed. Reaction and reflexes is its own metric
Minato got blitzed by jubito while tobirama was able to react to jubito witch means even though minato has faster travel soeed then tobirama, tobirama proven himslef to be many times faster in combat speed
And i will wait.
No that is not combat speed you have failed to understand this concept, combat speed is not speed used in combat. If it was that then travel,reaction etc would all be combat speed witch it isn't combat speed is how fast you can punch, kick etc
And neither has it to combat speed witch you tried to prove. Reaction speed is always equal or faster then travel speed unless your name is kizaru.
Sez you, i literally explained combat speed. The most common misconception is that combat speed is speed used in combat witch is wrong as iv’e already explained above…
How am i dishonest when i translated FAKE fan translation used to get naruto stronger then he really is. It’s you that are dishonest when you are using fake fan translations to back up your arguments.
Sure you are free to leave whenever you want, i think that it’d really clear who is winning this if you actually read thru your own responses
Yes it is 💀 It's secondary canon and since the panel barely showed anything we have to use the anime so that we can see it animated properly and see how it actually went.
That doesn't make it canon, you don't know what canon is. It was different from the manga. The anime have filler by you logic those filler are also canon
then I say that I didn't want to debate anymore,
it's me saying that i'm good with me argument
That's literally conceding, concede is synonymous to forfeiting or giving up. And that's exactly what you did.
That is what i said. it's not conceding bozo, i give my argument and said that i'm done. Also this debate didn't even have a jude are a time limit
In addition a tertiary canon will be allowed. The tertiary canon consists of official adaptations not overseen by the author, which do not modify or contradict source material. When other source materials give different versions of the same feat, and by that contradict the tertiary canon in the depiction of the feat, the others take precedence. And here as well, if the feat is correctly depicted over multiple canons any of these can be used to judge the feat. Should by judging the feat through primary or secondary canon a different result be reached than for tertiary canon the result of primary or secondary canon will have priority.
To dig further anime is tertiary canon witch means it can be used as long as it doesn't contain new material etc
Nobody said this was a debate, this is just a simple discussion. If this was a debate both parts would have to agree.
You also said the anime was different from the manga when i literally showed you two pannels proving it wasn't
Nobody said this was a debate, this is just a simple discussion. If this was a debate both parts would have to agree.
You also said the anime was different from the manga when i literally showed you two pannels proving it wasn't
you are so dishonest those are not the same events. The anime screenshot that you show me didn't show in a manga panel
• That doesn't make it canon, you don't know what canon is. It was different from the manga. The anime have filler by you logic those filler are also canon
This is literally what comes up when you search up the meaning of canon in anime
So yes, the anime is canon as it falls under the same category, isn't a fan fiction, isn't a spin-off and nor is it filler. Starting to sound like you don't know what canon means 💀
• That is what i said. it's not conceding bozo, i give my argument and said that i'm done. Also this debate didn't even have a jude are a time limit
What you and I are saying are completely different. You literally said you stopped with this debate meaning you gave up and conceded.
Are you joking it’s literally the same event with one showing the front persoective and another showing the back. This is ridiculous
Prove to me that it’s not canon, i can use anime feats as long as they don't contradict the manga. I am also already using a feat that was the same in both.
The anime is not made by Kishimoto or shonen jump witch are the one who own the right to the original Naruto manga.
Naruto was able to react to the swing and not the beam witch expanded i even showed you a scan with direct lines witch you ignored. Lol
Not in the manga
Prove to me that it is a name fallacy. You haven't debunked that argument, mabui knows the raikage and she would not have had a stressed face if she already knew he could move at lightspeed. Even then he could have ran to the battlefield himslef witch would take less time then the machine but he didn't. Mabui thought he would survive only becasue he had a durable
You litteraly said that because it have light in it name that made it light speed. The Raikage was not streesed and the Raikage was able to move while he was inside her jutsu. Again travel speed doesn"t equal to combat speed
Your debating me who follow basic rules so people like tou doesn't make up things.
Moving in her machine only needs a durable body not to be able to move that fast themselves. They came out of the light speed machine before attacking madara even using basic knowledge if raiakge already was stated to only move close to lightspeed he would not be able to react to seeing madara before after the machine he was traveling with was finished.
It does't because the machine is travel at light speed. That is both a durability and speed feat, Madara even reacted to her jutsu.
Narutos internal organs wasn't shown to take dmaage from neji. Implying that his chakra wasn't gone for long enough for it to affect the organs. Luffy transferes his ap into the opponents body on a much higher scale not proven by naruto to withstand. Even the databook for frog strike demmed a attack similar to that luffy are using to be unsurvivable.
Naruto had blood in his mouth. Hinata almost die when she get hit with a lower attack than the one neji use against Naruto. The datook get debunked because even after Naruto use the frog strike on the Four-Tail he was fine.
Naruto has only been shown to regenerate a part of a lung not an entire organ. If luffy hit his heart for example naruto would have died on the spot because he has not been proven to survive such things.
He regenerated the entire organ sto been dishonest. People don't survive when they entire lung is destroy also.
And neither of those are combat speed. Reaction and reflexes is its own metric
Minato got blitzed by jubito while tobirama was able to react to jubito witch means even though minato has faster travel soeed then tobirama, tobirama proven himslef to be many times faster in combat speed
Those are metric of Combat speed i will give you the link. Minato get blitze only because he was emotinal because he was fighting Obito, once he focus he could react to juubito
And i will wait.
I already give it to you
No that is not combat speed you have failed to understand this concept, combat speed is not speed used in combat. If it was that then travel,reaction etc would all be combat speed witch it isn't combat speed is how fast you can punch, kick etc
I will give you the link on what is combat speed
And neither has it to combat speed witch you tried to prove. Reaction speed is always equal or faster then travel speed unless your name is kizaru.
You debunked yourself lol
Sez you, i literally explained combat speed. The most common misconception is that combat speed is speed used in combat witch is wrong as iv’e already explained above…
You are wrong
How am i dishonest when i translated FAKE fan translation used to get naruto stronger then he really is. It’s you that are dishonest when you are using fake fan translations to back up your arguments.
It's not a fake translation, it's just not official because the novel have no official translation. You are dishonest because You are debating thing that you don't even think that are true, you are just debating because you want to win and keep a reputation
Sure you are free to leave whenever you want, i think that it’d really clear who is winning this if you actually read thru your own responses
Of course most people in this wiki would be on your side you are a member of this wiki and have a lot a friends that are here
In addition a tertiary canon will be allowed. The tertiary canon consists of official adaptations not overseen by the author, which do not modify or contradict source material. When other source materials give different versions of the same feat, and by that contradict the tertiary canon in the depiction of the feat, the others take precedence. And here as well, if the feat is correctly depicted over multiple canons any of these can be used to judge the feat. Should by judging the feat through primary or secondary canon a different result be reached than for tertiary canon the result of primary or secondary canon will have priority.
What you are talking about is just non canon, by your logic if i redraw the Naruto manga then that made my drawing canon, that is not how canoncity work,
To dig further anime is tertiary canon witch means it can be used as long as it doesn't contain new material etc
That is not how it work Kishimoto or shonen jump have to be part of it in order for it to be canon to the Naruto Manga
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