• It still took a while for him to react to it even if didn’t matter.

Well yeah, that's what's going to happen when it doesn't really affect you..

• Base naruto and sasuke could react to fused momoshiki ... i wouldn’t say fatigued and rusty naruto and sasuke are that much far off from their versions from when they fought momo.

I'd say they are, seeing as how Naruto supposedly can't react to a Sakura level person at full power, but a while later he's able to react to and fight on par with someone stronger than him for a short amount of time on different occasions.

• while gaara and darui got absolutely obliterated.

K that's awesome, but I wasn't even talking about Fused Momoshiki. Fused Momo is also said to be able to take on Naruto and Sasuke individually, so that doesn't really work. Base Naruto and Sasuke reacted to a suppressed Fused Momo, same with Gaara.

• Keyword “taijutsu”

Literally the same exact thing for the Sakura scan lol.

It did affect him though, he literally fell to his knees one second later and was almost close to getting pierced by weapons. He couldn’t react to it even if he tried to.

Rusty base naruto can’t react to a Sakura level person at full power, but so6p naruto is able to react to and fight on par with someone stronger than him for a short amount of time on different occasions.

Momoshiki blitzes gaara until he blocks with his sand:

While base naruto and sasuke not getting immediately blitzed

And gaara was talking about combat prowess altogether, not just taijutsu

Are you saying Shin is relative to Naruto and Sasuke?

• It did affect him though, he literally fell to his knees

He stared at it lol.

Even if we go past that, the past scan I sent literally has Kurama telling Naruto to stop overreacting.

• Rusty base naruto can’t react to a Sakura level person at full power, but so6p naruto is able to react to and fight on par with someone stronger than him for a short amount of time on different occasions.

So that should show that Rusty Base Naruto =/= SO6P Naruto..?

• Momoshiki blitzes gaara until he blocks with his sand:

• While base naruto and sasuke not getting immediately blitzed

K, if we're using anime:

(btw, this is before the pic you sent above)

• It still took a while for him to react to it even if didn't matter.

The only reason he couldn't dodge it was cause he was off-guard and was rusty

Also by that logic Kaguya > Isshiki lmfao.

Being off-guard has been shown to decrease your durability many times (e.g. Madara getting killed my Zetsu, Naruto kicking Jigen/Ishiki or even Goku getting shot and almost killed by a laser).

• Base naruto and sasuke could react to fused momoshiki while gaara and darui got absolutely obliterated.

Gaara did react to him though? Plus Naruti and Sasuke got wrecked by Fused Momo too.

• And wouldn't say fatigued and rusty naruto and sasuke are that much far off from their versions from when they fought momo.

Bruh, Sasuke wasn't even at full power and Naruto was rusty meaning he hadn't fought in a long time. In the Momo fight at least he was somewhat experienced again. Plus Naruto was trying to protect the kids making it even more harder.

• It did affect him though, he literally fell to his knees one second later and was almost close to getting pierced by weapons. He couldn't react to it even if he tried to.

He literally got up 2 panels later and plus Naruto had already reacted to that attack before

(+ Kurama told him to stop overreacting in the same panel were I proved Naruto was rusty)

• Rusty base naruto can't react to a Sakura level person at full power, but soóp naruto is able to react to and fight on par with someone stronger than him for a short amount of time on different occasions.

So are you saying rusty Naruto is as powerful as SOSP Naruto?

And replying to the last bit of your comment, no. Gaaara was specifically just talking about taijutsu, combat prowess was nowhere mentioned lmfao.

Dont let that NarutoShipp see that "Naruto is rusty" panel, he'll go crazy over that and say sum like WA Naruto > BE Naruto

BE Base Naruto > BE Gokage individually for sure based on feats

Delta should somewhat scale to SOSP, at least above Base Naruto, Koji too

I don't see how you put Toneri and TL Naruto there tbh, specially Base

Sakura placements are fine for as much as it hurts 🥶 could be higher arguably

Unstable Juubito is stated as "The strongest and pure evil" when he appears, putting him above Hashi and EMS Madara

Tobirama is fine, I'd have BSM Naruto lower than him personally

KCM Minato is most likely just ~ BSM Naruto

BE Orochimaru and BE Kakashi are massively downplayed here ngl

Idk y you place DMS Obito and WA Orochimaru there

Edo SM Minato is kinda crazy honestly

Ion like the reasons you probably use for Karin and Suigetsus placements

Bijus are fodder 🥶

If MKCM Naruto is taken into account he goes more like ~ Edo Itachi than there imo, same with WA Sakura

EMS Sasuke definitely goes higher since it is prime EMS Sasuke, he either KCM2 rival or even BSM rival

Old Hiruzen wank, Sannin victim

BE kids massively downplayed :(

Aaand i got tired

A bit about P1

Kurenai might beat the Sannins and at least Late P1 Kakashi level honestly, can't understand her placement at all

Neither I can understand Guy and Kakashi placements

CE KM0 Naruto ~ CE Neji

SRA Neji > CE Neji, or at least not inferior :(((

CE low and mid tiers are kinda messed up tbh, top tiers are for the most part the winner takes (Except for poor Naruto who didn't even get placed around them), I'd have Gaara higher tho

• BE Base Naruto > BE Gokage individually for sure based on feats

Yeah definitely, just not the way that arix is trying to convey it.

• Delta should somewhat scale to SOSP, at least above Base Naruto, Koji too

🧑‍🦯

• I don't see how you put Toneri and TL Naruto there tbh, specially Base

Wdym?

• Unstable Juubito is stated as "The strongest and pure evil" when he appears, putting him above Hashi and EMS Madara

Oh, I thought that was only for their Edo forms.

• BE Orochimaru and BE Kakashi are massively downplayed here ngl

If it's for the reasons I think it is, then I am blind.

• Idk y you place DMS Obito and WA Orochimaru there

I put Oro there because he was able to stun Tobirama and was only worried that Hashi get out. I just put Obito there bc I knew that he got weaker, I didn't think that much on it tbh 💀

• Edo SM Minato is kinda crazy honestly

What'd he do?

• Ion like the reasons you probably use for Karin and Suigetsus placements

😁

• Bijus are fodder 🥶

I was using them when they were fighting Naruto and co., but after waking up to this comment, my brain moved and I remembered that they were controlled, so yeah, they probably go lower.

• EMS Sasuke definitely goes higher since it is prime EMS Sasuke, he either KCM2 rival or even BSM rival

Forgot about EMS Sasuke fighting Juubito b4 he got amped.

• Old Hiruzen wank, Sannin victim

There's no one I hate more than Hiruzen.

• BE kids massively downplayed :(

I don't see them being that strong.

• Kurenai might beat the Sannins and at least Late P1 Kakashi level honestly, can't understand her placement at all

Gonna be honest, I got bored and just put here wherever. (i also forgot to look for her feats)

• Neither I can understand Guy and Kakashi placements

I just realized I put Hinata above them 😭 I started getting tired through most of these tiers.

• SRA Neji > CE Neji, or at least not inferior :(((

Didn't realize that I did that.

• CE low and mid tiers are kinda messed up tbh, top tiers are for the most part the winner takes

Yeah, I don't do anything with PT1 unless it's like, idk, trying to upscale Haku or Zabuza.

Can you prove that Base TL Naruto and Base Toneri are stronger than Indra/Ashura modes Teen Naruro and Sasuke?

Probably later, it's gonna take a while to gather stuff and I need to head out rn.