@RadicalJD What if he was up against prime hiruzen? You still think he takes it or nah?

No. Fused Kisame ought to give him a run for his money though.

Hiruzen, high - extreme diff.

Gonna go with Hiruzen here

How come^/^^

Kisame high diff.

Kisame high diff, elemental jutsus don't work against samehada. The real problem would be Enma.

Until he pops the water bubble.^

I'd argue that these two might be the most underrated characters in Part 1/Shippuden.

Kisame is definitely underrated. Idk, I think people respect old Hiruzen in 2024.