To end this argument I concluded that it would be a very close tie but with the adpation wheel of Sukuna and mahoraga it slams madara but mabey if madara were to be Six paths mode and double renigan that probably be a entirely different story.

Ima post another JJk character vs Naruto character poll today to id check that out

I scale jjk to universal.

I can do that too, but im tryna lowball it rn and i was supposed to continue debunking rn (i had to sleep earlier) but apparently the owner "concluded" it so i won't anymore, maybe in another post.

They can conclude, but it really doesn't end a true debate. This is Fandom. You can keep going for as long as you need to (don't go over 150 comments).

^^^out of curiosity, are the arguments for that somewhere in your discord server?

Nah, but it's something that I'm thinking of. Complete satire, but somewhat a headcanon of mine even though I know close to nothing on Jjk.

My guess is that if anybody has ever somewhat got passed Infinity on pure power, it would grant them infinite/instant speed which would also grant them infinite Energy for Joules in damage, thus giving them Universal abilities.

Idk if that has ever happened though. I also say this because the way his infinity works is that it slows everything down to a infinite time of 0, so you'd have to have Infinite speed to even counter or at most Immeasurable speed to be above it completely.

Wow I never knew abt that but people gotta know gojo can't win every fight just because he has infinity it can be counter with speed and catching him off guard also think of it when rock lee was fighting garra

^^nah nobody got past infinity with speed alone, only through special abilities

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Eh, I figured.