Infinite Tsukuyomi

So I’m having a dumb conversation with my friend, who thinks it would be a good writing decision for Kishimoto to make Boruto all an infinite Tsukuyomi dream. He genuinely thinks that a ton of people would like that and that it would make the series more popular.

Would ANY of you like if that happened?

Because honestly I think if it happened, it might actually be the worst writing decision ever made.

Kaguya is one of the most powerful otsutsuki clan members. She has many feats that scale her higher than the others

There are 3 versions of Kaguya to discuss

• Pre Chakra Fruit Kaguya

• Chakra fruit Kaguya

• Infinite Tsukuyomi Kaguya

Let’s start with feats 1-10

#1 Crippling Isshiki. A lot of fans disregard this as “Isshiki was off guard” however, it really doesn’t matter if she sneak attacked him, the fact is she had enough attack power to make full power isshiki cripple for over a thousand years.

#2 She Destroyed a Perfect Susano twice in the same fight. Jigen kicked Sasuke out his susano yet Kaguya has similar feats in Shippuden. She simply lifted her hand and blew it up. And used chakra fist to blow up it up a second time. These feats easily put Chakra fruit Kaguya above V2 jigen level

#3 the expansive truth seeking orbs had the destructive capacity to blow up an entire dimension comprised of a star and a planet, making this a Solar system level feat, this Jutsu has the highest destructive capabilities in the series.

#4 Kaguya has dimensional travel and has created 6 dimensions in total.

#5 Kaguya also has ash bones that ignore durability and are one hit kills with no exceptions.

#6 Infinite tsukuyomi, gives Kaguya near infinite Chakra as she takes the chakra of everyone on earth boosting her power even further.

#7 Kaguya is immortal and she cannot be killed, she can only be sealed. No one has ever managed to kill her without sealing her. Some sources say she “died” but it’s a retcon. How can she die from the exact same thing came back from before. Combined Fragments of tailed beast chakra and the gedo mazo and she would be instantly revived at any time

#8 Kaguya’s durability is the highest we’ve seen in the series. Kaguya tanked 9 six paths Rasen Shurikens enhanced with Kekkie genki. She did not absorb or dodge this attack but took it head on with minimal scratches

Just 1 of these almost killed Ten tail Madara and 6 of these destroyed 20+ meteorites. Note that in the last movie just half a meteorite could Destroy the entire leaf village.

#9 Kaguya was also fast enough to completely speedblitz Naruto and Sasuke multiple times. And has reacted to instant teleportation. Kaguya was holding back the first half of the fight due to the duo reminding her of her sons

First time

Second time

3rd time

Naruto was only able to speedblitz Kaguya and cut her arm off because her chakra was low after switching dimensions many times and opening portals. Reaction Speed gets Slow when chakra is low

#10 Imagine being so strong it takes multiple chapters just to touch you simultaneously. People think sealing her is beating her but in reality they had a lot of luck on their side. Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi were boosted to god level and had to just simply (touch) their hand on Kaguya to seal her and they barely accomplished that. Hagoromo gave them all the tools they needed to seal her, without the sun and moon seal the mission would have failed. They also got lucky Obito helped them with space and time ninjutsu. Kaguya can only be sealed not killed.

Now, let’s move onto statements

Statement 1

A lot of people think Toneri is stronger than Kaguya because of the movie cover. This is just movie promotion and besides With the feats I’ve mentioned toneri who is merely moon level is not on the same level as a being that can destroy stars and planets.

Statement 2 is from Page 160 of the Sasuke Shinden Sun rise Novel

The book says “Sasuke shook his head no. He wouldn't let that happen. He would protect it himself” People chalk this up to thinking sasuke could defeat Kaguya on his own which is not the case. This is taken out of context. Sasuke insinuated he would die to protect the leaf and the future just like Sasuke told Boruto before he fought isshiki. Doesn’t mean he would beat Isshiki just that he will face him. sasuke insinuating he can fight kaguya level threats doesn't mean he can win against kaguya level threats.

Statement 3

Momoshiki saying he will “punish Kaguya” he was referring to pre chakra fruit Kaguya and was unaware of the fact Kaguya consumed a chakra fruit and was much stronger. It had been over a thousand years since he had last seen her.

Momoshiki has a superiority complex. He called Naruto and Sasuke “inferior creatures” and then got beat in his strongest form by 50% fatigued Naruto and 50% fatigued Sasuke.

Momoshiki had power from absorbing kinshiki and 50% of Kurama's chakra + 8 tails chakra. And used chakra pills to boost himself further. And also absorbed chakra from katasuke’s ninja tech and still lost.

Why would a “greater threat than kaguya” be running from darui for five pages straight and be completely cornered

Momoshiki also died to a massive rasengan and got injured by a vanishing rasengan meanwhile Kaguya could tank country+ rasen shurikens. The only thing inferior are his feats in comparison to Kaguya.

Kaguya has been shown to have the greatest feats despite not having many statements

Thanks for Reading.

In the game Naruto x Boruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Connections There’s a character named Nanashi Uchiha also known as Hakari Uchiha She’s a villain in the game and also a Uchiha from the warring states period who was brought to the future. She’s so powerful the uchiha clan used her as a weapon in the past which gave her a pretty sad backstory which is why she wants to destroy the Shinobi world yada yada yada. She has four mangekyo sharingan abilities , two in both eyes. 1. Amaterasu 2. flame control. 3. Tsukuyomi and 4. Yachihoko which is basically similar to Kotoamatsukami but x2 she can not only mind control anyone to do what she wants but also erase their memory and under her genjutsu she has full access to their chakra (stealing their chakra basically) With enough chakra she can cast an infinite tsukuyomi on the moon. She’s overpowered. She Also she has a crush on Boruto but she fell victim to the Uzumaki rizz that Boruto used on her and Boruto saved the world and turned her into an ally. Of course, this is a game but I figured it was worth a mention.

I believe if someone like Kaguya or Madara cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi on an Otsutsuki, I believe that if an Otsutsuki has a Rinnegan they can resist it, like Hagoromo, and Momoshiki for example, but those that don’t have one will get caught in its effects like Isshiki and Kinshiki both of whom have no Rinnegan.

Otsutsukis carry a ten tails to become a shinju and produce a chakra fruit but, we dont know how they manage to have a ten tails.

In the manga, Kaguya goes with Ishikki and a ten tails, they plant him in the ground with intents to feed Kaguya to the jūbi, but Kaguya splits ishikki in half and apparently feeds one half to the juubi, then, it becomes a shinju, does an infinite tsukuyomi to control the people and then absorbs all their chakra, becoming zetsus. She has 2 sons, Hagoromo and Hamura, and they take a lot of shinju's gathered chakra, Kaguya becames jealous and "fuses with the shinju left" and "becomes a ten tails" (this is soooo poorly written) then Hagoromo and Hamura fight Jūbi and Hagoromo gathers that chakra and becomes the ten tails jinchuriki, the Gedō mazo is sealed in a chibaku tensei creating the moon and Hagoromo splits the ten tails in nine bijuus.

A loooot of time later, Obito gathers the bijuus chakra and seals it in the gedō mazo, for it to become a ten tails, obito becomes ten tails jinchuriki after ten tails digi-evolves and then he "expulses the ten tails" out of his body (and he keeps being the jinchuriki for no reason), then madara becomes the jinchuriki, he absorbs the shinju left and he becomes KAGUYA WTF, then she is sealed or dies (i dont remember) and expulses all 9 bijuus.

In boruto, we see that kara has a juubi and that brings a lot of questions:

Does the chakra fruit contain the juubi chakra? if thats so, if the juubi chakra makes contact with the empty shinju forms a ten tails? thats how ten tails are born? (implying that kara's juubi was born that way), does that mean that the otsutsuki eat the fruit, gather all that power and expulse the juubi chakra to the shinju to become a juubi seedling? does obito look the same after expulsing juubi bc he has the rikudo sennin mode or bc he expulsed the part of the juubi that is a seedling? Does madara become kaguya and not the ten tails bc kaguya not only refused the jubi chakra with the shinju, she fused herself too? Why does ten tails chakra makes kaguya manifest a bunny face between all bijuu faces? is that her chakra embodiment, kinda like a susanoo? How did kaguya made an infinite tsukuyomi if the moon didn't exist yet?

I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND NO ANSWERS PLEASE HELP.

1. The infinite tsukuyomi creates real realities or just an illusion, because in reality, even the strongest genjutsu is still an illusion that affects the senses and is not real, but the infinite tsukuyomi creates illusions so real that they are not even broken how normally should they be broken

2.the infinite tsukuyomi creates infinite realities? because its name is that, and it also encloses the whole world (including conscious living beings) in a world of dreams

When Madara used Infinite Tsukuyomi, did it work on naruto and sasuke or not?

We know that as an Edo Tensei, Itachi could use Kotoamatsukami on himself, but Infinite Tsukuyomi didn't work on the edo hokages, wouldn't this mean that the potency itself of Koto is superior?

What do you think