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@Graunt1x During the previous post Hokage Kakashi was placed in Legend Tier. Next up is Pain Arc Sage Mode Naruto.
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What Tier they belong in (Example High kage)
Which character they should be above or under on the tier list
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@Graunt1x During the previous post Choji and Choza were placed at the Top of High Jonin. Next is Post War Arc Naruto from The Last
Write in the comments below
What Tier they belong in (Example High kage)
Which character they should be above or below.
Rules:
Unless otherwise stated, assume it's the person at their Prime. It you have any questions, feel free to ask, & let me know it you want to be tagged or removed Also note that the person being picked is completely randomized.
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#1 Pain destroying Konoha. This is by far my favorite panel it’s one of those moments that make you stop and glance longer
#2 Naruto before he blitzes Jubbito this was just iconic moment. Obito was talking trash and Naruto shut him up. Him and tobirama being in sync Naruto and tobirama both figuring out the weakness simultaneously and defending Minato
#3 Sasuke finding out the Naruto is the 9 tails jinchuriki and Naruto and screaming. A moment to remember
#4 Naruto and Sasuke awaken their new modes and awaken from death to fight a Madara that’s stronger than ever
#5 The symbolism that Minato will be the 4th hokage. Kishimoto cooked with this one in the Minato one shot
#6 Itachi recruits Deidara. This moment goes hard Deidara is stunned by Itachi’s art leaving him jealous and envious of Itachi and also defeated. The fans aren’t the only ones who hype up Itachi seems kishimoto draws him in that light as well
#7 Itachi sitting down stoically while putting Sasuke in a genjutsu within a genjutsu that’s in another genjutsu.
#8 Minato speedblitzing Obito and showing him who’s boss. This is definitely the hardest moment in the Naruto series
#9 Naruto, Killer Bee and Itachi all simultaneously attacking the core to get out of planetary devastation.
#10 A clash between friends, rivals, enemies. The final battle
#11 This was just a cold moment, Minato marking this stone Shinobi and teleporting to him before he even drops his backpack and knowing why Minato has flee on sight orders and is named the yellow flash
#12 Naruto using 9 Bijuu rasen shuriken against Kaguya
#13 The clash between Indra arrow and Naruto’s Six Paths Ultra BigBall Rasenshuriken
#14 Minato vs Raikage and Killer Bee
#15 Minato Inventing the Rasengan
#16 Naruto dodging the Raikages top speed proving the Raikage wrong
#17 Naruto Boy has surpassed his predecessors. When fugasaku see’s Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto and is proud of him
#18 Minato and Kushina vs Kurama
#19 A crazy opening page to start off a one shot manga
#20 Itachi & Sasuke vs Kabuto (Both using Susano)
As you can see most of these moments are from Minato, Naruto and Itachi who are my 3 favorite characters
This has been debated for along time. But today I will provide a solid conclusion.
Naruto would win medium to high diff. Let me explain why
Speed
Sage Naruto was able to speedblitz a path of pain before six other pairs of linked rinnegan eyes and tsunade could even react
He's so fast he dodged the 3rd raikage who's above the 4th. The 3rd raikage fought 10,000 ninja for 3 days and stalemated the 8 tails he's also a lot more durable and stronger than the 4th. He only died due to exhaustion and honestly he might also be faster, Naruto reacted to his highest speed. It's also stated no where the 4th is faster that's an assumption. But let's say the 4th is faster... this Naruto is only a clone.
Naruto made 13 clones so this is only 1/13 of Naruto's chakra
Naruto proved he's fast enough to dodge susano arrows and Amaterasu.
Strength
Naruto's strength in Sage mode is so high pain could not even touch Naruto until the mode ran out. I repeat pain could not and did not even physically touch Naruto in Taijutsu until he regained his powers and used his almighty push /universal again.
Naruto can also completely kill a path of pain in one hit with frog kata without even touching him
Naruto can lift frog statues, summoning rhinos and flip the 9 tails, his strength is way above sasuke.
I'm no mathematical cales guy but the statue and rhinos have to be 15+ tons
Also the blood prison movie is canon confirmed by the creator and it's written and mentioned in the novels. Sage Naruto beat up the satori beast that even the 8 tails struggled against. Not V2 Bee but the full 8 tails. Which scales correctly considering Naruto fought well against tailed beast and undid their chains during the war arc he's well above tailed beast level.
This version of Sasuke would not last even a minute in Taijutsu against Sage mode Naruto
Ninjustu
Naruto's ninjutsu is also higher with rasenshuriken the blast radius being able to completely engulf the susano body and cause a crater 40 feet deep. The rasen shuriken is so much energy Madara didn't even bother to tank it with his susano he chose to absorb it. The rasenshuriken is probably enough to damage even the susano the way kirin did itachi's susano. Just look at destruction in the images below.
Genjutsu.
If Naruto has ma and pa, the frog song is even something pain was cautious of. We see during the kabuto fight Sasuke has no defense for sound genjutsu. If Naruto has ma and pa on the battlefield with him he should be safe against sharingan genjutsu and he's sensory type ninja and doesn't necessarily need to look Sasuke directly in the eyes
And if we consider feats after the pain arc Naruto can use massive rasengan in base. (In the anime he was in Sage mode but in manga he did this in base)
Jiraiya needed Sage mode to make such rasengans
Naruto doesn't
He can also create barrages of massive rasengans each of these can destroy mountains according to the databooks. Sasuke should be able to tank one like madara did against above Naruto but can he tank 20+?
his shadow clones can create even more clones
And if we consider war arc Sage mode Naruto he grew so much in a short period, this is pre six paths Naruto.
Before he even got SPSM he could create rasen shurikens of this caliber and size. The pain arc version is next to him just for size comparison.
Conclusions Naruto wins in speed, strength, Taijutsu, genjutsu and ninjutsu.
Naruto is leagues above the five kage even in base.
During his fight with fused Momoshiki base Naruto was still somewhat keeping up with him while the other 4 kage got one punched KO'd.
How powerful was Fused Momoshiki? Momoshiki had 50% of Kurama's chakra, merged with Kinshiki and majority of Gyuki's chakra. A Massive Rasengan from a weakened Base Naruto dealt the final blow on someone equivalent to Two Otsutsuki's with the chakra of the two strongest Tailed Beast. Fused Momoshiki had a huge boost on top of already being strong individual, however once he couldn't absorb chakra anymore was killed by a Massive Rasengan powered by a Fatigued Base Naruto
Naruto's Power with limited chakra
Naruto had his chakra restricted with multiple black receiver rods and still, Naruto's rasengan was powerful enough to destroy the shinju stump, spiraled up into the sky and then exploded, turning Momoshiki into stardust. And while other Characters like borushiki can make rasengans comparable in size they don't compare in destructive power.
Naruto's Taijutsu and Ninjutsu
People think Naruto is weaker in the Boruto era but forget he is mostly only limited to Taijutsu due to most opponents being able to negate or absorb chakra. While his ninjutsu is off the charts, His Taijutsu in Sage mode should be incredible especially with frog kata. We all know Sage Mode boost all stats from base. Speed, Strength, Stamina, Durability and reflexes are all enhanced, as well as Ninjutsu, Taijutsu & Genjutsu being more powerful along with added Sensory abilities.
Speed feats
Base Naruto has 3 feats of dodging literal light in the novels. Naruto developed a chakra illness due to being a host of tailed beast. This prevented him from drawing upon chakra. So, base Naruto in his most weakest condition, barely able to stand at times dodged light easily 3 times. This means that a prime base Naruto has FTL reactions and combat speed.
Add SM boost to it and you'll reach even higher.
What is the Wisdom of a Sage?
Naruto has trained his Sage mode over the years and can now prolong the use, he calls this "wisdom of a Sage". Momoshiki and code were still cautious of this version of Naruto. Code using Shikamaru as a hostage for leverage to avoid confrontation and Momoshiki wanting to team up with code to take down Naruto. EMS Sasuke should also be relative to Adult Sage Mode Naruto as they always have similar levels during buffs or nerfs. Sasuke still managed to slash codes eye. Meaning Sage Mode Naruto most likely would've defeated a weaker version of him.
Conclusion. A lot of people downplay Sage Mode Naruto but he is one of the strongest. He should be stronger than code with limiters as he was confident in beating him. He also should be stronger than boroshiki and Kawashiki pre time skip. He also kept up with fused Momoshiki and who had the chakra of Kinshiki, the 8 and 9 tails chakra. Sage mode Naruto could scale to a mid level otsutsuki in terms of power. Sage Mode Naruto is Planetary especially if we scale from Kinshiki who's stated to be planetary and naruto scales higher than him as he faced Momoshiki with both their powers combined in base. And this is a honestly a lowball considering base Momoshiki has a small Star level feats
Though not entirely accurate this is a ballpark estimation
Base Naruto - Multi continental level
Sage Mode Adult Naruto - Small Planetary
SPSM Adult Naruto - Large Planetary+
Baryon Mode Naruto - Large Star Level
If you read this far you’re a real one
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A 3 year time skip occurred and Naruto didn’t even know what a chakra nature or kekkie genki was! Kakashi taught him the steps to create his own jutsu in a week and to master wind release and the wind chakra nature, Fukasaku taught him Sage mode in less than a week. Killer bee helped him control the 9 tails chakra and chakra arms and bijuu bombs in less than a week. Naruto is actually quick at learning because he’s a hands on learner and not a (by the books) learner. I’m a shocked that his progress was that low during all that time with Jiraiya. While it’s true Jiraiya was a father figure. He wasn’t a good teacher in general. Naruto learned almost nothing. Jiraiya by his own admission said Minato trained himself due to being a genius and prodigy. Nagato having the rinnegan gave him all five chakra natures and learned faster. And Jiraiya didn’t teach konan origami jutsu that’s a skill she honed on her own.
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Theoretically, Naruto, would’ve been the most overpowered character in the series and could’ve mastered any jutsu due to Shadow clone jutsu. Because of his enormous chakra. With shadow clones he can retain all knowledge and duplicate his training time, he could achieve years worth of training in just 48 hours. Naruto basically had a hyperbolic time chamber level of training and the series made it go to waste. Naruto also used this technique to learn Sage mode in about 3 days when it could’ve taken over almost a month
Naruto could’ve learned more about his Uzumaki clan sealing techniques, increased his wind style arsenal or learned flying raijin etc. Just a thought
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Rasengan
Giant Rasengan
Massive Rasengan
Big Ball Rasengan
No bitches Rasengan
Rasengan barrage
Super Massive Rasengan
Ultra Massive Rasengan
106 Massive Rasengan
Gallent Rasengan
Vanishing Rasengan
Wind style: Rasengan
compression Rasengan
Rasengan flash
Sage art: Massive Rasengan Mega barrage
Father-Son Rasengan
Kamehame-Rasengan / Rasen-Kamehameha
Crescent Moon Rasengan
Gomu-gomu- Rasengan
Rasen-Chidori
Rasen-sengan
Cherry Blossem Rasengan
Rasen - Lightning blade
Final Rasengan
All Nature release Rasengan (used in Jump force)
ultimate supreme rasengan
Mini Rasengan
Scientific Ninja Tool Rasengan
Six Paths Rasengan(s)
Sakura Level Rasengan (Small af)
Hinata Level Rasengan (Large level)
106 Massive Rasengan (Larger then the sun)
Will be making another post regarding more of theses
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Ok so in the last the rasenshurikans where orange and also some of the rasengans here to. What’s with that?
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