We are told and shown that Kaguya gained her immense chakra from eating the fruit of earths Divine Tree. My question is whether she was stronger in her original incarnation after doing that or she was more powerful after effectively being resurrected thanks to Black Zetsu’s millennium long manipulations. I suppose my question also boils down to whether Earth’s cumulative chakra had remained the same in quantity, had diminished, or had grown over the course of that 1000 years or so.
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@Scorpionstriker8720 Admittedly I have toyed with the idea of whom i might subject to one of my creations but then I remind myself just how destructive power can be when used carelessly. Besides that which some fear others will seek out and seek to take advantage of. Therefore it is good that my jutsu ideas exist in a world where they are nothing more than ideas. If someone in the naruto verse were to think up and use one of my creations in their universe then they would become a threat to rival the otsutsuki clan (including their supposed deity).
@Scorpionstriker8720 thank you. I actually came up with chaos style some time ago and have since thought up several jutsu based on combining it with various elements for even more cataclysmic results. For instance imagine sage jutsu combined with chaos style, terrifying. Of course even ordinary jutsu can become OP in the hands of someone sufficiently powerful (Madara uchichas majestic destroyer flame jutsu is elegant testimony of that).
Honestly my inventions would almost all blur the line between the three ninja jutsu types. For instance I’d make a version of the lightning style armor for all but earth style. But mostly my creations would involve elemental kekkai gengkai so rare they’d likely never be possible in the anime or manga. For instance I’d fuse water, wind, and lightning styles to create storm style. This would allow one to manipulate the weather to a degree commensurate to one’s chakra levels. But mostly my creations would be jutsu that recreate natural phenomenon. For instance a fire style to mimic a heat wave or forest fire (collateral damage and all). I’d also fuse the essences of different elements to create more powerful jutsu than any achievable otherwise. For instance light and dark styles fused with the other five elements to create Chaos Style. Imagine how powerful such jutsu would be. They’d put tailed beast bombs to shame.
Firstly I think it only fair to admit I can only identify five of the people shown (those being Richard dragon from the dc universe, kakashi hatake from naruto, Daniel Rand from Marvel, lady shiva from dc, and Elektra from marvel) but of those I’d say that Lady Shiva is the best fighter because she would be the most willing to kill her opponents. Dragon and kakashi might kill if necessary but only if necessary. Iron fist wouldn’t because he’s too principled to do so. Elektra would be second most willing to kill but she would probably reframe out of deference to Daredevil. Besides any warrior that can beat Batman in hand to hand gets bumped to the top of the list as far as I’m concerned.
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Well according to the anime the akutski seem to have captured Han (and thus the five tails Kokuo) first, followed by Fu and Chomei, then Gaara and Shukaku, Yugito and Matatabi, Isobu, Roshi and Son Goku, Utakata and Saiken, and part of Gyukis chakra along with a portion of Kuramas chakra through the gold and silver brothers before the remainder was captured by Madara. So they seem to have mostly caught them in order but started with the jinchuriki least likely to be noticed or missed. As far as the order being important to the stability of the gedo statue I doubt that since it used to the aggregate of the nine tailed beasts.
Firstly I can’t claim to understand this meme phenomenon nor can I claim to offer anything akin to a realistic prediction regarding conditions but of this I’m confident. Firstly it seems to me that Madara’s actions on behalf of the hidden leaf and his relationship with Hashirama Senju were very similar to those and that between Danzo Shimura and Hiruzen Sarutobi with a few noteworthy provisos. Firstly unlike Danzo Madara was a much better and more subtle manipulator and far better long term planner. Secondly madara was far more of a hardliner than Danzo but because of his immense power and skill at intimidation it worked in his favor except where Hashirama was concerned. More to the point I’d say that Madara while he may have disliked leaving the battlefield and becoming an administrator would nevertheless have made a very competent hokage. Besides had he become the second hokage he would have had both Senju brothers as allies (even if tobirama would most likely always remain wary of him and his clan) and counselors. Given the zeal he displayed in defending his clan and above all else his brother he would have most likely not even allow other nations to consider going agnaist the land of fire. Besides given his possession of both the eternal mangekyo sharingan and very high caliber sensory abilities I don’t doubt he would be a tireless guardian of the hidden leaf. As to tobirama and the akutski I can’t see tobirama turning agnaist the village he helped envision let alone creating an organization anything like what Madara spawned. I can see tobirama becoming disenfranchised with Hashirama but not to that ultimate extreme.
Honestly my favourite is Gaaras dream. Call me a sap but as a jinchuriki he and Naruto deserve happy endings, Naruto got his and gaara is no less deserving
My main pondering here is whether the principle of the Conversation of Mass and Energy (ie the principle that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed from one form or substance to another) applies to chakra. Chakra is composed is a melding of ones mental and physical energy. So does that mean that Earth cumulative chakra can only grow to a certain point, will remain constant with only its allotment differing, or will gradually decrease only immense spans of time.
I’d probably chose either kamui or flying raijin jutsu. Kamui because one can both store stuff and transport between points nearly instantaneously. As for kamui variants I don’t really care about those. Flying raijin for the same reasons as kamui although kamui does seem the more flexible of the two (albeit slightly slower as Minato namikaze demonstrated when he used it to avoid being sent to obitos time space). Besides even though it’s never explained why Obitos mangekyo sharingan seems to be the only one that didn’t deteriorate his vision even when transplanted.
Well from all that I’d seen of the akutski and especially black zetsu I was almost certain that something aside from the eye of the moon plan was going on way behind the scenes. Obito formed the akutski on Madaras orders, but one cannot use others without being used oneself. What’s a better cover than convincing someone that you’re their creation. Sure enough black zetsu was the mastermind behind it all and all with the goal of essentially resurrecting Kaguya Otsutsuki, even if she and he did end resealed in a new Moon shortly thereafter.
Well given that along with moving objects into and out of ones own pocket dimension (which from what we've been shown seems practically infinite in size and storage capacity) one can also teleport to different locations using Kamui I'd take that ability. Plus I've long been intriqued by the fact that despite having the Mangekyo Sharingan for so long that Obito never seemed to suffered any kind of visual impairment and that Kakashi only suffered minor impairment despite the mangekyo's use entailing worsening vision until one goes completely blind. Granted Obito did have the cells of Hashirama Senju enplanted in him before awakening the mangekyo and Kakashi's Sharingan was a transplant before it awakened the mangekyo so perhaps that had something to do with it.
This much I cannot deny and that is that prior to Sasuke's receiving part of Hagoromo Otsutsuki's power that Madara Uchiha was likely the strongest shinobi in the entire history of his clan (second only to Indra of course since he was the progenitor of the Uchiha). But of all the Uchiha and in fact of all the younger generation of the Leaf Shinobi it is Itachi, Shisui, and Naruto who have had the biggest impact on the shinobi world. Obito was corrupted by Madara who in turn was corrupted by Black Zetsu so they are removed from consideration on account of being pawns rather than actually making their own marks upon the shinobi world. In fact of all the shinobi in the Hidden Leaf Itachi would probably have been the best candidate for Hokage after Hiruzen Sarutobi's death had he not been a rogue ninja and member of the Akutski. The only real stumbling block would have been convincing the village elders to accept so young a Hokage candidate, Itachi's own pertinacity for keeping secrets, and Itachi's Mangekyo being more or less necessary as a deterrent putting an immense strain first on his sight and once he went blind finding a suitable set of replacements to enable him to achieve the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. But Itachi was easily smart enough for the job, he was a peacemaker by nature (and one that Hiruzen Sarutobi was almost no doubt sorry to have to sacrifice), and being an uchiha would have assuaged many of his clans concerns about their position in the village.
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<p>Well personally I don't really know if this would qualify as a dojutsu but if I had to create one it would be one that hybridizes the Sharingan, Byakugan, and Rinnegan. The eye itself would look identical to the sharingan (that is a red iris and one to three tomoe as ones use, skill, and chakra control develop) but with one key difference. Once had developed three tomoe each would act like a gate. Each gate would hold one of the Three Great Visual Jutsu. For example if the situation called for the sharingan one could activate the respective tomoe.
</p><p>another potential candidate would be a dojutsu that allows one to use any of the seven chakra natures (fire, water, wind, lightning, earth, yin, and yang) in any combination that would be not result in contradictory results. We've all seen shinobi with Kekkei Genkai use two chakra natures at once (Haku, Roshi, and the former Mizukage to name but three examples) and two that can use three at once (Onoki and Mu both using Particles Style: wind, fire, and earth styles) called Kekkei Tōta. My idea is merely an extension of that but without needing an inherited Kekkei Genkai to do so. for various combinations of chakra natures consult the following (url: http://pre11.deviantart.net/6dbf/th/pre/i/2012/276/5/b/elemental_combinations_2_3_by_fg7dragon-d5gosiu.jpg)
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well I agree with the first contributor that Hiruzen probably was Naruto's model and initial father figure but I also doubt its a coincidence that Naruto and Iruka met (although its entirely possible that it was just a coincidence). once Iruka did meet and bond with Naruto he would take over from Hiruzen as Naruto's father figure (and the second biggest influence on Naruto overall after Hiruzen and Naruto's parents, after he meet them). Iruka would continue to fill the role until Naruto meet and won the respect of Kakashi (although I also agree that however fond of Naruto, and however much of a redeemer Naruto ended up being for Kakashi, Kakashi became that he would be more akin to an affectionate uncle than a proper father figure). of course one should not discount Jiraiya. although they only had a little over three years or so together overall Jiraiya would ultimately be the closest thing Naruto had to an actual parent (by reason of being not only Minato's teacher, and the one to give Naruto his name albeit indirectly, but Naruto's godfather) before meeting the remnants of his mother and then his reanimated father (although I doubt Naruto ever learned that it was Orochimaru that make this reunion possible). once those things happened and although they had the most fleeting experience of all of naruto's foster family up to that point they would still become the "two suns" that would ultimately enable Naruto to defeat kaguya, black Zetsu, and ultimately (albeit temporarily, as is the nature of such things) break the "cycle of hatred" that madara had acted btoh as the instigator and harbinger of. the question/challenge for Naruto (I suppose) now becomes whether he can be a stable enough presence in the lives of his own children to have them be less prone to relying on parental figures outside of their actual family (although with figures like the reclusive and conservative Hyuga on the one hand, the equally distant but now largely redeemed Sasuke uchiha, and extended familial metaphor of the Hidden Leaf on the other) I don't think Naruto need worry overly much. the question is whether or not Kata and other such secret organizations are being used like the Akutski, Obito, and Madara were by Black Zetsu or whether they are just the ashes of the Akutski. that is one question I look forward to pondering and puzzling out the answer to. if nothing else I can satisfaction in one thing. I figured that Black Zetsu was acting as the envoy of someone or something well before this was confirmed as an actuality.
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<p>I do agree with everything. However, we don't have any concrete evidence that Hiruzen raised Naruto. The only potential evidence we might have is that the dying Kushina asked Hiruzen to take care of him. Hiruzen responded by saying, "I promise". The second being that Naruto said his philosophy as hokage is a continuation of Hiruzen's philosophy. </p> </div> <p>I do not entirely disagree with you about the lack of concrete evidence on other hand unless Hiruzen were to be reanimated again (which with obito's redemption and demise, kabuto's rediscovery of who he really is, and Madara's physical demise after making peace with Hashirama, and Orochimaru being watched by the hidden leaf seems unlikely) we are not likely to find/receive any evidence either. so that being the case we needs must may due with speculation and the occasional tidbit someone drops here and there. besides that I would say just the fact of how closely naruto's philosophy came to mirror hiruzens is proof either of how much Naruto respected him, of Naruto never entirely accepting hiruzens death and thus acting in his stead in perpetuity, or of just how much Naruto himself has matured over the course of his life/the show up to present. plus because Naruto is an Uzumaki he has the potential to be the Hidden Leaf's longest reining Hokage to date. of course that is something that will require the manga and/or anime to continue which based on its popularity seems like a safe bet but after a time even the most popular of things become predictable and boring. </p>
<p>I do agree with everything. However, we don't have any concrete evidence that Hiruzen raised Naruto. The only potential evidence we might have is that the dying Kushina asked Hiruzen to take care of him. Hiruzen responded by saying, "I promise". The second being that Naruto said his philosophy as hokage is a continuation of Hiruzen's philosophy. </p> </div> <p>I do not entirely disagree with you about the lack of concrete evidence on other hand unless Hiruzen were to be reanimated again (which with obito's redemption and demise, kabuto's rediscovery of who he really is, and Madara's physical demise after making peace with Hashirama, and Orochimaru being watched by the hidden leaf seems unlikely) we are not likely to find/receive any evidence either. so that being the case we needs must may due with speculation and the occasional tidbit someone drops here and there. besides that I would say just the fact of how closely naruto's philosophy came to mirror hiruzens is proof either of how much Naruto respected him, of Naruto never entirely accepting hiruzens death and thus acting in his stead in perpetuity, or of just how much Naruto himself has matured over the course of his life/the show up to present. plus because Naruto is an Uzumaki he has the potential to be the Hidden Leaf's longest reining Hokage to date. of course that is something that will require the manga and/or anime to continue which based on its popularity seems like a safe bet but after a time even the most popular of things become predictable and boring. </p>
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<p>well I agree with the first contributor that Hiruzen probably was Naruto's model and initial father figure but I also doubt its a coincidence that Naruto and Iruka met (although its entirely possible that it was just a coincidence). once Iruka did meet and bond with Naruto he would take over from Hiruzen as Naruto's father figure (and the second biggest influence on Naruto overall after Hiruzen and Naruto's parents, after he meet them). Iruka would continue to fill the role until Naruto meet and won the respect of Kakashi (although I also agree that however fond of Naruto, and however much of a redeemer Naruto ended up being for Kakashi, Kakashi became that he would be more akin to an affectionate uncle than a proper father figure). of course one should not discount Jiraiya. although they only had a little over three years or so together overall Jiraiya would ultimately be the closest thing Naruto had to an actual parent (by reason of being not only Minato's teacher, and the one to give Naruto his name albeit indirectly, but Naruto's godfather) before meeting the remnants of his mother and then his reanimated father (although I doubt Naruto ever learned that it was Orochimaru that make this reunion possible). once those things happened and although they had the most fleeting experience of all of naruto's foster family up to that point they would still become the "two suns" that would ultimately enable Naruto to defeat kaguya, black Zetsu, and ultimately (albeit temporarily, as is the nature of such things) break the "cycle of hatred" that madara had acted btoh as the instigator and harbinger of. the question/challenge for Naruto (I suppose) now becomes whether he can be a stable enough presence in the lives of his own children to have them be less prone to relying on parental figures outside of their actual family (although with figures like the reclusive and conservative Hyuga on the one hand, the equally distant but now largely redeemed Sasuke uchiha, and extended familial metaphor of the Hidden Leaf on the other) I don't think Naruto need worry overly much. the question is whether or not Kata and other such secret organizations are being used like the Akutski, Obito, and Madara were by Black Zetsu or whether they are just the ashes of the Akutski. that is one question I look forward to pondering and puzzling out the answer to. if nothing else I can satisfaction in one thing. I figured that Black Zetsu was acting as the envoy of someone or something well before this was confirmed as an actuality.
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<p>Well I must admit that while the anime (and possibly the manga) didn't give a good representation of Jugo's fighting prowess. That said since the Curse Marks are based off what I can only really call the Kekkei Genkai of Jugo's clan then it seems reasonable to assume that he would be at least 4 times as powerful (with Sasuke possibly being the exception). Plus based on how powerful Kabuto became after incorporating Jugos abilities into himself that is a further testament. Kabuto seems to have implied that with Jugo's abilities he could remain in Sage Mode in perpetuity. Sage Chakra seems to be at least 3 times as powerful as regular chakra. It is possible that Jugo could fight in perpetuity but it also seems likely that he would eventually kill myself doing so (if for no other reason than eventually using a technique he himself could withstand or survive the use of). Plus Sage power seems to be immensely draining to use over an extended period so it seems likely Jugo would eventually die from sheer exhaustion. After all no matter how enhanced chakra becomes by the infusion of Nature energy the chakra network itself has limits (as evidenced by the Eight Inner Gates).
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<p>No doubt that was Master Hagoromos hope and intention as well but as history (regardless of much black Zetsu twisted it) shows a great good only remains so for a short period of time (and sometimes even within the lifetime of the instigator of the great change it begins to be perverted and corrupted). Besides which no matter how intention one might have in mind for giving others power they would otherwise both lack and be ignorant of it is ultimately up to the person given such power what they will do with it.
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<p>If I had to chose any of the powers, abilities, skills, or jutsu from the Naruto series (manga and anime) I would either chose obito uchihas mangekyo ability (Kamui) or naruto's signature shadow clone jutsu. in the former case it would save a tremendous amount of time traveling between locations (although it is never made entirely clear whether obito has to have visited a given location to teleport himself there via his timespace). In the latter it would save one from needing to ask for assistance in stuff because one could just call up the requisite number of clones (assuming ones chakra and life-force are strong enough to divide accordingly) plus one could make a more defined difference in the world by way of ones clones. for example the original and two other clones would stay in ones immediate locale and preform the duties expected of oneself. other clones could be sent to Indonesia to help with the recovery effort. Plus as Kakashi illustrated during Narutos change in chakra nature training when a given number of clones disappear the original gains all their knowledge and experience. the only real downside (also well illustrated during that same training) is that depending on the number of clones all that cumulative experience comes at the cost of cumulative fatigue as well.
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<p>Well I will admit I would like to see this fight but I've already done a great many battle simulations on this question and in most of htem the conclusion was not surprising. Given that Lee could barely hold his own agnaist Gaara (even with the Six inner gates he can access) I don't think Boruto would have much chance agnaist Gaara. Now I haven't keep up with Boruto's manga exploits so my data might be dated but even so the same conclusion presents itself. I will say this though. Boruto seems to inherited Naruto's stubbornness (if inherit is the right word that is) so I don't doubt he would put up quite a fight. Both are very talented in different ways but unfortunately Boruto would have virtually no chance of getting past Gaara's ultimate defense. Plus if one factors Gaara's mentality (or perhaps it would more accurate to say psychopathy) prior to fighting Naruto then Boruto would be fighting someone who would readily kill him if given the chance. Besides even setting Shukaku aside (which seems like an exceedingly dangerous thing to do given Shukakus prowess) Gaara was essentially the personification of nihilistic ruthlessness before being defeated and enlightened by Naruto.
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