<p>I Would like to know which one you guys like more and why.
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<p>This discussion has become non-sense on the same level as whether or not mystic gohan could go ssj in the dragon ball community(even though we also have a databook confirming he can)
</p><p>You all know what is more ironic of all it,the same person that always show up sayieng such things as kishimot beat all of your opinion completelly ignore his official statement about that.
</p><p>Can the databook be wrong?of course it can,do we have evidences that say otherwise?no we don't,in fact how the OP just mentioned,we have proof that actually confirm what the databook says,Indra was able to use it with only his MS(No indra doesn't have any special sharigan or whatever bullshit people always seem to bring up).
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^^^because he never showed one???and he wasn't said to be on same level of Hashirama.
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<p>He was also never shown in his prime, which is the point of contention here. Kishi said he was the most powerful, but also didn't show us at his most powerful. If you're wondering where it was said, Iruka said it to some Academy students in Part 1. Hiruzen was listening and he didn't object. And he's seen Hashirama's power. Or at the very least Tobirama's. </p> </div> <p>Kabuto pretty much stated the same thing about Hashirama..Dan saw prime Hiruzen and yet didn't believe that he could Beat Madara. </p>
<p>He was also never shown in his prime, which is the point of contention here. Kishi said he was the most powerful, but also didn't show us at his most powerful. If you're wondering where it was said, Iruka said it to some Academy students in Part 1. Hiruzen was listening and he didn't object. And he's seen Hashirama's power. Or at the very least Tobirama's. </p> </div> <p>Kabuto pretty much stated the same thing about Hashirama..Dan saw prime Hiruzen and yet didn't believe that he could Beat Madara. </p>
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madara never was called the god of shinobi because he was unlucky to be born in the same age that Hashirama was.
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<p>my spider-sense is telling me that this thread will not end up well....
</p><p>Hashirama fourth databook profile call him the (the strongest shinobi)and Hiruzen god of shinobi epithet was completelly left off in the third and fourth databook and in part 2.
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Do people serious belive that Jirayia would be able to fight against Kisame and Itachi together???Itachi only said that to not look suspicious to kisame he didn't want to fight anyone in Konoha.judging by Kisame perfomance against killer bee I highly doubt that jiraiya would be a problem to him.
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<p>kakashi has become so pathetic in part 2 that people have to pick up the most unfair version of him(with a power-up that kishimoto pulled out of his ass just to make his fanboys happy) to stand a change against danzo.
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<p>Rinne tskuyomi wrote:
Naruto so far isn't dead. He is alive. Kawaki saying that he shall send Boruto to meet Naruto doesn't mean that Naruto is dead. Even if it could mean that Naruto is dead then how?
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<p>The problem is that we don't know for sure. But Kawaki's words imply on that. He said he'll send Boruto to the same place as the Seventh, and then continued the fight against Boruto, which most likely means that Naruto is really no longer alive, otherwise Kawaki's threat just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's hard to believe that someone managed to take down Naruto, technically the strongest Hokage ever, but it's still unknown what really happened, although such a thing is possible anyway - Hashirama was reputed as a "God of Shinobi" during his livetime and was considered the strongest shinobi alive, but still somehow died and surely not the natural way. </p> </div> <p>The difference is that Hashirama death is clearly a kishimoto plot hole.He planned Hashirama to be a random shinobi at first that somehow died to random shinobies in a random battle,the circunstance and how exactly he has died was never explained. Kishimoto himself admitted he was just making things up as the story went on. </p>
<p>The problem is that we don't know for sure. But Kawaki's words imply on that. He said he'll send Boruto to the same place as the Seventh, and then continued the fight against Boruto, which most likely means that Naruto is really no longer alive, otherwise Kawaki's threat just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's hard to believe that someone managed to take down Naruto, technically the strongest Hokage ever, but it's still unknown what really happened, although such a thing is possible anyway - Hashirama was reputed as a "God of Shinobi" during his livetime and was considered the strongest shinobi alive, but still somehow died and surely not the natural way. </p> </div> <p>The difference is that Hashirama death is clearly a kishimoto plot hole.He planned Hashirama to be a random shinobi at first that somehow died to random shinobies in a random battle,the circunstance and how exactly he has died was never explained. Kishimoto himself admitted he was just making things up as the story went on. </p>
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hmmmmmmmmm...and how that affected his PS???Because Hashirama didn't see to notice any difference.
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<p>Wood golem was said to be strong as the nine-tails and Madara's ps was handling it with no problem.
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<p>Ems Madara+kurama couldn't beat Hashirama ,how the hell could him be a match to Momoshiki????
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<p>the rinnegan gives the user the six paths techniques ,sasuke usage of deva path and preta path is the confirmation of that.
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<p>Jiraya would need sage mode to win ,Without it I highly doubt that he can avoid susanoo's arrow with his regular speed.
</p><p>Why people still bother to bring up databook states when the strongest characters in the series don't have one?
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<p>if the 4 databook said that he can use all 5 basic elements he mastered to some degree he probably could at least use any rank-b technique of each element.
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<p>feats>>>>databook hype. Sasuke is enough to take this team by himself.
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<p>He more than likely will get Sage mode ,it is pretty obvious ,don't know about FTG though.
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<p>So far I know itachi is not immune to genjutsu , so I don't see how was that supposed to be an impressive feat ahh a databook 1 information the same databook that call wood release a hidden jutsu ....okey then.
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