All posts by Actionmanrandell
No they said that the tree's have to be planted by an otsutsuki
Absolutely false, the Haru clan is a fan made clan
That wasn't a real dimension. it was just a genjutsu
Lee does in fact use chakra. this is a fact stated right at the beginning of the chunin exams when sasuke notes how strong and powerful Lee's chakra is. those who use the style of taijutsu that Lee and Gai are masters of, use the chakra internally to increase the power of their strikes, this is why both have stated on multiple occasions throughout both series, and all the movies that they were LOW ON CHAKRA. he just can't use it in the form of a jutsu release.
I read every comment on here, absolutely no one else makes any mention of them knowing they are different. you are not a god and you can not read other peoples mind. Arrogant is putting it politely.
Moreover the repear death seal is also called the grim reaper seal in several of the games
And the japanese word Shinigami is translated as Grimm reaper, death bringer, and death spirit. all of them are accurate translations.
And guess what the reaper death seal does? it summons a shinigami. as in it summons a grim reaper.
The term jutsu means technique we don't know the mechanism behind orochimaru's clones. shadow clones disapear when you harm them to much making them imperfect clones. the fission clones are superior because they don't disappear when you kill them
Again genius as someone has already told you in another post. they both use techniques that use both yin and yang release. and both use techniques that use Yin-yang release, therefore they have Yin-yang release.
Also the databook states that the six paths senjutsu grants its user knowledge of Chakra and ALL things universal
Actionmanrandell wrote:
they have stated from the beginning that its the fusion of physical and spiritual energy.
Yea they did, and later it was explained that Hagoromo gave them the ability to do so
do you not see how your statement contradicts what you are saying., first you say that he literally gave him chakra, then i say that chakra is the fusion of physical and spiritual energy, which everyone must have already possessed since everyone was already born with a spirit and a body.
So you then say yea and hagoromo gave the ability to do so.
So you are agreeing with me. before kaguya came mankind's bodies were already full of physical and spiritual energy. here comes kaguya the fruit sprouts she eats it she has sons her sons beat her and then hagoromo goes around spreading his ideals and in the mean time he teaches humans how to fuse the two separate energies that ALREADY existed within them.
If it didn't they wouldn't exist because something that lacks a spirit and a body can't exist
Actionmanrandell wrote:
hagoromo just trained them how to fuse the energy they already had together
No. He gave them chakra and so they could connect with one another and they instead used it to connect the energies withinnthemselves to create chakra. It is very explicitly explained
As of right now, there is an unresolved conflict of information.
again you are contradicting yourself. if they used ninshu to connect the energies within themselves as in physical and spiritual energy, to create NEW chakra then chakra already existed within them. chakra is purely the fusion of these two energies. so essentially what you are saying is that Hagoromo imbued them with his own chakra and then they used his chakra to fuse there OWN physical and spiritual energies together gaining access to MORE chakra then he gave them. which still mean they had already had the required ingredients to gain manufacture chakra.
In end this all means that what i am saying is correct.
What we know are the facts about chakra.
One; Chakra is the fusion of spiritual energy and physical energy and has been since the very beginning and is still the fusion of these two energies
Two: amado states that the otsutsuki go from world to world, they then plant a shinju which consumes the energy and chakra of all life on a planet.
Three: once this occurs the otsutsuki use the chakra fruit that blossoms to forcibly evolve themselves taking in genetic data from the species that chakra formed the fruit.
And since chakra is the fusion of Spiritual and physical energy and all humans were already both spiritual and physical then they already had chakra
If i am trying to bake a cake and i have all the ingredients laid out on my counter top. the cake hasn't been fully formed yet but i still have all the ingredients for cake, and as such i already technically have the cake, i just have to do the proper mixing and then bake it.
For people they already have the ingredients for chakra(spiritual and physical energies) all hagoromo did was spread Ninshu and trained them how to fuse the energies of their bodies which allowed them to CREATE chakra within themselves FACT end of discussion
Its just some divine visage doesn't really look like hagoromo aside from the swirl on its forehead.
His hatred gave him the drive to discover abilities that the main branch hoarded but it didn't give him the clarity and purity of the byakugan. but he wouldn't have necessarily been the heir and as such that wouldn't have made him any stronger..
In the fight between Naruto and Neji. Hiashi told hanabi to pay attention because Neji had inherited one of the purest byakugan in generations. Hanabi responded with"even more so then big sister" and Hiashi responded with "maybe even more so then yours" of course at this time Hiashi believed that hanabi's eyes were superior to her sisters but it later turns out that he was wrong and in the naruto the last movie we find out that hinata is called the byakugan princess because her eyes are the purest of byakugan
If its not mentioned in manga, then its not relevant to a proper discussion. the databooks often make mistakes, but its meant as a supplementary guidebook so its semi relevant but not super relevant. the manga and anime make no mention of Naruto and sasuke's power ups being from Hagoromo's yin and yang six paths. the manga and anime simply state that Hagoromo gave them each his chakra(he didn't divide it he didn't separate it down the line between yin and yang chakra)
He just told them to hold out their dominate hands placed the yin and yang seals on them while simultaneously giving them his six paths chakra
They are described as essentially having half of Hagoromo's power because 1 of them has the Rinnegan and the other the six paths senjutsu. to fully be as powerful as Hagoromo they would both need both power sets
The stats are base stats and only account for the time period they came out, notice the 4th databook doesn't update the stats are we to assume that current naruto is still below level 30?
No we are not.
A fully grown man will drop to the ground if you hit him in the nuts. no matter how young you are. himawari has the byakugan and as such the power that comes with it. and naruto wasn't trying to stop her. what was he suppose to do kick his own daughter through a wall?
Role: it wouldn't really restrict them, they can manipulate there shadow so all they would need to do is manipulate there shadow in conjunction with there own movements. there is no way that would limit there mobility. there shadow moves when ever they move anyways. the only difference is they would be surrounding there body with shadow armor and then moving. and it only requires lots of chakra to paralyze someone.
Syoup: The shadow clearly doesn't stay on the ground, otherwise we wouldn't see techniques where the shadow clearly leaves the ground such as in shadow grasping in which members grasp there own weapons
Absolutely false. and no im sorry but who do you think you are saying what the other people in this threat understood. none of them said they didn't think you were talking about the Only reaper mentioned in the series.
None of them have even commented on it and none of them have stated they assumed you were talking about an out of verse character.
You are a bit presumptuous
And no one has to refer to the reaper as the Grimm repear. the two terms go hand in hand. the reaper in almost every lore is also called the grim reaper
And i reported your post for unnecessary cursing
Telling someone to fk off is not inline with a peaceful discussion.
You just proved my point. "Six Paths power is not enough to gain Rinnegan," so therefore, Hashirama cells are in play.
NO NO NO NO, what do you not get, if a person gets six paths chakra, all techniques all power etc are amped up. this allowed Kakashi to not only use Susanoo but susanoo in its complete form it also allowed him to use jutsu that once tired him out really fast, but to gain the Rinnegan the person has to meet two requirements, One gain access to hagoromo's chakra and two that person MUST be a transmigrant of indra or Ashura. there are multiple ways of getting this chakra. for Madara he gained Hagorom's chakra by also gaining access to Ashura's by infusing Hashirama cells in him. for Sasuke he gained the chakra directly from Hagoromo via his Six paths chakra. how can you not understand this. if it was via hashirama's cells it would have taken decades for his body to assimilate the cells power. more over hashirama's cells no longer posses ashura's chakra as when he died, Ashura's presence migrated across time into naruto
And you have to be a REINCARNATION of INDRA not Ashura, to awaken Rinnegan and that is IF the Rikudo Sennin deems you worthy.
Absolutely false, Black Zetsu specifically stated that over the thousand years since Kaguya's sealing, he caused Indra and Ashura to battle and then continued to pit the transmigrants against eachother in hopes that ONE OF THEM would unite the steal the power of the other and EVENTUALLY awaken the Rinnegan. also no where does it say that Hagoromo has to deem you worthy otherwise Madara would have never been given the Rinnegan and neither would sasuke have because he told Hagoromo he was going to try to enslave the world
And when the databooks are contradicted by the series then what the databook states isn't viable.
the databooks are not 100% ac curate. doesn't mean they are not valuable tools. the encyclopedia Britannica isn't 100% accurate but they are valuable tools
My explanation makes perfect sense. Kakashi didn't permanently gain access six paths power. he got a temporary boost because of his body being temporarily possessed by Obito who had six paths power. and gaining access to six paths is not enough to gain a Rinnegan, the person has to be a transmigrant of either Indra or Ashura for their eyes to evolve into an Rinnegan. since sasuke is a direct descendant of indra and because he already had Sharingan, his eye evolved into a Rinnegan, naruto already had the body of the sage and senjutsu so his senjutsu evolved into the Senjutsu of the six paths. the databook makes no mention of hashirama cells in fact it states that Hagoromo gave sasuke the Rinnegan.
It doesn't matter if you intended to mean a different reaper then the reaper death seal. this is a naruto discussion and you saying the grim reaper doesn't imply that you are talking about the REAL WORLD mythological being. none of us are gods and none of us can read minds.
We are on a naruto forum and if you mention the reaper/grim reaper the logical assumption is that you are farking talking about the reaper that is summoned using the reaper death seal.
Hagoromo separated the chakra the Jubi, he then used Yin yang release to create the separate living forms, and imbued them with personality. the yin yang release was used to bring those personalities to LIFE. as in they have flesh and blood
You mentioned the reaper. the only reaper that exists in the naruto world is the reaper death seal. its pointless bringing non naruto characters into the equation so your post has no point.
Also no none of them are actually immortal. a dead person being able to occasionally pop up and come in spirit form is not immortal. they are what you call extant as in they still exist. but they are not mortal. they died and moved on to the pure land. they are DEAD if minato or obito can still come back in and jump into someone's body temporarily they are still a ghost