All posts by LaughingLyon

<p>No one here is acting like a “minatard” You frankly just have a hate boner </p>

<p>Minato must’ve shitted on this dudes fave or something </p>

<p>Hiruzen gets tagged and dies </p><p>Knowing about FTG isn’t a counter as A4 knew and Obito knew and both lost </p><p>Knowing how FTG works has never been a counter </p>

<p>Don’t know where all the Minato butthurt spawned from but he takes it </p><p>We are spoon fed this during Anko and Hiruzen’s conversation </p><p>And yes Contract seal works on edo as they are summoned </p><p>Even if it doesn’t the four signed seal handles them </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>BloodOfTheArchon wrote: A4's chakra level is tailed best level, as Karin has said before. Minato was never touted for having massive chakra, ever. Minato has enough to enter Sage Mode albeit very briefly. In a prolonged battle Minato will run out of chakra first, making FTG not useable. He will then die. If he manages to somehow knock A out or kill him (which is extremely unlikely) before that happens then he would win. Minato can't kill A. </p> </i></div>
<p>Minato is able to use Hiraishin at least 50x in quick succession </p><p>A4 can’t outlast </p>

<p>Kinshiki dominates Shadow Sasuke not once but twice </p><p>Nagato gets the same </p><p>
And no Chojuro and Kuro being useful against him isn’t an anti feat </p><p>Chojuro not being Kage level is both untrue and laughable </p><p>His sword is underestimated as it’s not as flashy as say Samehada but any weapon that lets you knock around MS Sasuke in a rib cage Susanoo is fearsome </p><p>I see him and Mei going 50/50 depending on the stipulation as he’s way better up close and she’s way better at distance </p>

<p>Minato slams Rasengan into him until he wins </p><p>Mid diff at most </p>

<p>SASUKE DOES NOT HAVE THE RINNESHARINGAN </p><p>HE HIMSLEF CALLS IT A RINNEGAN EVEN WITH THE DAMNED TOMOE BEING PRESENT </p><p>
</p><p>WHY IS THIS HARD? </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Jira89 wrote: Opening dimensional portals is part of Kaguya's rinne sharingan, Sasuke doesn't have kamui. </p><p>Rinne sharingan is the most powerful dojutsu in the Naruto world and has the same pattern of the Shinju fruit. This dojutsu was given to Sasuke, while Naruto receive the energy of a TenTails, only in this way they can compete against Madara or Kaguya. it's ALL very simple. </p> </i></div>
<p>Sasuke only has the Rinnegan per the manga and DBIV </p>

<p>Rinne Sharingan is a distinct Dojutsu </p><p>It’s not a “stronger “ Rinnegan </p><p>
I hope this isn’t one of those Hokage Naruto doesn’t have SPSM threads </p>

Naruto stomps in base

Obito is walled by Deva

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Vladosaurus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>AsianReaper wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Castinova wrote: AsianReaper I completely disagree because we saw Naruto in base summon 200+ shadow clones all forming rasengans *when he was in base and way less powerful* equalizing stats would make the fight more focused towards Sasukes hax which Naruto has been shown to handle countless other times. </p> </i></div>
<p>How did Naruto handle Sasuke's teleport/Chidori combo? He literally didn't and just got smacked into the water. </p><p>How did Naruto handle getting his chakra drained by Sasuke? He didn't and literally just took more chakra from Kurama. </p><p>How did Naruto handle Sasuke's massive fireball? He used a chakra arm to overpower it. </p><p>Naruto's main responses to Sasuke are to tank or overpower. Which means Sasuke has to attack with more precision to land more hits, since he has less chakra to work with and more defense on Naruto's part to get through. But now you've equalized chakra and stamina. So either Naruto no longer has his means (chakra/stamina advantage) to deal with Sasuke's many hits, or Sasuke has enough power to keep hammering blows in without worrying about his chakra levels. This tips the scales in Sasuke's favour </p> </div> <p>Yes, but in the final battle VOTE2 80% of Naruto's feats were just ignored. How on earth does Naruto struggle holding back a fireball jutsu when a much weaker version of Naruto deflected 5 bijuu bombs on once? Why didn't he sunshin away, like he did so many times when he discovered NTCM for the first time? In a real all out fight, Naruto would be quite unbeatable on the ground. I mean have him go all out with his speed that he cut Kaguya's arm, with his power that is shattering the earth with from just the shockwaves, with thousands of shadow clones using SPSM, with the bijuu abilities including boil release that overpowered Kaguya herself? The same Kaguya who was destroying Sasuke's susanoo with her blows? And what happened with Naruto's superior sensing and reflexes at VOTE2? I mean c'mon...you don't have to be a genius to see that Naruto gets nerfed a lot in big battles, simply because some of his feats are just ridiculous and would turn the battle hard in his favor. </p> </div> <p>I’m of the opinion the Rinnegan has been equally needed and ignored </p>

<div class="quote"><i> <p>Castinova wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Eham7th wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>AsianReaper wrote: @Flatzone, Naruto was warning against Tsukuyomi, which Sasuke does not have. The reason Tsukuyomi was dangerous was it inflicted too much damage in too short a time for the partner to break them out of. But the regular MS Genjutsu that Sasuke has? Gyuuki broke Bee out and that allowed Bee to land a massive hit. </p><p>Genjutau is a nonfactor in this fight because Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi. If Sasuke had any worthwhile Genjutsu that would work against Naruto and Kurama, he would have used it in their last battle. </p><p>Also, as stated above, Sasuke can't force Kyuubi back into the seal like he did in early Part 2 because now Naruto's Seal is different; Kurama resides inside Naruto but is no longer restrained. The seal is open. Sasuke could try to force Kurama back into Naruto but the worst that happens is Kurama just comes back out because nothing is keeping him back. </p><p>In regards to the premise of this fight, why are stats equalized? That makes no sense. </p><p>For one, their overall abilities are already canonically equal. </p><p>Not only that, equalizing their abilities takes away their strengths and weaknesses over each other. </p><p>Naruto is no longer massively stronger and he doesn't have his advantage in stamina. Those two things are not only some of Naruto's defining battle characteristics, they're a reason he can fight Sasuke, who's much more dexterous and lands more hits than Naruto overall. </p><p>Not only that, what's equal chakra? Do they both have Naruto level chakra? Because if so, Sasuke got a huge boost and can now use his Rinnegan techs like teleportation and most likely spam anything he wants. </p><p>Or does Naruto have Sasuke level chakra? If so, he tires way more quickly now because his strategies are usually to outlast and overpower. If he does that with less chakra than he has, he'll just run empty more quickly. </p><p>You made a thread intending to make the combatants equal by equalling their stats. But that's exactly what makes this fight unbalanced. While before, they were approximately equal, your thread decidedly tilts things in Sasuke's favor </p> </i></div>
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While I agree with your first few points I think you're missing the point of stats being equalized. It doesn't entirely matter who they are equalized to, by making the stats equal the raw stats don't impact the outcome of the match. For example, Naruto had a significant advantage in attack potency. With that being equal it is no longer an advantage for any of them therefore can't be used to tilt the fight in their favor. </p> </div> <p>AsianReaper I completely disagree because we saw Naruto in base summon 200+ shadow clones all forming rasengans *when he was in base and way less powerful* equalizing stats would make the fight more focused towards Sasukes hax which Naruto has been shown to handle countless other times. </p> </div> <p>And Sasuke has shown he has answers for Naruto’s raw power. You seem to only be looking at things from a raw power perspective and excluding all of Naruto’s flops against Hax. You also seem to be underestimating Sasuke’s raw power which is sufficient for taking on Naruto. </p><p>They both have skills that prove difficult for the other to deal with </p>

<p>@asianreaperi apologize to the members of the forum and to the OP who’s thread I contributed to derailing </p><p>That said </p><p>I regret nothing </p>

<p>Your articles are trash because there’s no citation for it </p><p>No proof that’s from Kishi </p><p>It’s just an article that has little to back sans your word which is dubious to say the least. </p><p>No one would accept that </p><p>My “Pokemon Card” is from Zai No Sho, you know the Official Guidebook written by Kishi himself but sure it’s B.S. </p><p>Lol you’re a fucking joke </p><p>A little internet boy who likes to pretend he’s an intellectual but in fact is so far up his own ass he can kiss his kidney. </p><p>So go on and try to gpretend you’re some mature guy when YOUR’E ALREADY on an Internet forum talking about who’s stronger . </p><p>Seriously you can’t be this dumb </p>

<p>-Boruto anime is Canon so I don’t know what you’re getting at but if it’s what I think it is , you should stop . </p><p>2- that scan is from Zai No Sho written by Kishi so it’s canon and his authorial intent can’t be spelled out any clearer. They are equal. END OF DISCUSSION </p><p>Edit- https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Zai_no_Sho </p>

<p>https://sasusakuchannel.tumblr.com/post/126419092176/uchiha-sasuke-unranked-何よりお前はナルトよりウスラトンカチだ </p><p>It’s genuine </p><p>Also </p><p>https://youtu.be/-QD4pD0JIXk (2:00 min mark) </p><p>
Now onto your drivel </p><p>1- your articles are trash, not only are Kishimoto’s “quotes “unsourced , there’s little to no substance at all in the article itself. </p><p>
2- there’s no proof that Naruto now has full Kurama ,no panel, no quote, no Databook page. It’s just fan speculation at best, and fanboyism at worst. </p><p>
3- Naruto only held back in the beginning of the fight </p><p>4- Naruto taking L’s against the rinnegan isn’t what I’d call experience </p>

<p>False they’re stated to be equals </p><p>https://ibb.co/Y7sxC1T </p>

<p>Stating that Adult Naruto and Sasuke aren’t equal </p><p>Or that Sasuke needs some buff to compete </p>