I mean it's basically what Jack said, anything from WA and after should pretty easily clear Kisame. fused kisame's power isn't really easy to quantify since he'd already been draining killer B of his chakra, making himself stronger and B weaker, but he shouldn't be anything past KCM1 level realistically since he almost always lost to Itachi.
Wasn't there also a statement that said that Itachi and Sasuke were equals?
Which one of them would take precedence over the other?
Even if this was sick Itachi I'm pretty sure that it would still take early EMS Sasuke levels of power to defeat him. Sasuke and Itachi were only considered equal when Sasuke got his EMS, and the only thing that the EDO did to Itachi was boost his stamina since even OM Obito didn't want to have to deal with an actual confrontation with a sick Itachi.
Killer B himself in the version shown shouldn't be more than sanin level since Suigetsu and iirc Karin pointed out how unlikely it would have been for Sasuke to have actually beaten Orochimaru and Sasuke says that Orochimaru was sick, which is why he won. pretty sure that they said after his fight with deidara, so this was a Sasuke that was much more familiar with his abilities and powers than MS sasuke against killer B
Tl;dr
Itachi > Orochimaru (sanin level) >~ Kage level ~ Killer B
Been gone for so long but Naruto fans still don't know how strong their characters are
Sakura should win this easily. the sound 4 are barely jounin level together so Sakura being able to contend with jonin to mid kage level fighters puts her way above them
If this is irl then wood release cus I could just build houses with it to sell. if we talkin in verse then either wind (rarest and potentially most powerful basic transformation) and ice because of the possibility of wind + water, which basically covers wind's only weakness
I honestly hate when people use popularity as a means of showing that something is a good debate. if more people vote for Naruto in Naruto vs RImuru because they know who naruto is, does that actually mean Naruto could win?
But, I love how Sakura getting stabbed by a TSO is being used here. Y'all do realize that in order to actually survive a TSO, your chakra levels basically have to be on Six paths level right? even Guy couldn't directly touch the TSO despite his huge chakra boost from the 8 gates. this means that Sakura has more chakra (and therefore strength) than 8 gates guy, who was "declared" the strongest at that point in time when considering taijutsu. if y'all really don't wanna use the Kaguya scaling we can still put Sakura above 8 gates guy who, with Madara's statement, would put her above everyone weaker than 8 gates guy, including blind Madara.
Kakashi saved Sakura AFTER she'd already been dodging some rabbit hands, this would put her above what Blind madara could do since one eyed madara got hurt by base SPSM Naruto and it wasn't even because Madara got weaker post guy (stated by Madara himself). this means that Madara < SPSM Naruto <Kaguya rabbit speed ~ Sakura
Y'all suck
Sakura dodging
Naruto and sasuke getting saved by a clone smh
Sakura hurted Kaguya putting her AP above anything that blind madara could achieve. for more evidence her chakra is superior to that of spsm naruto clones despite them having superior healing (at that point in time).
Sakura also reacted to kaguya's arms and punched kaguya when she saw her (literally had "!" next to her)
@RIZZILA672 aint no way anyone taking a threat from someone named rizzla
DMS Kakashi should be at the strongest. Naruto should be equal to Isshiki. Kaguya should be in upper six paths. Momoshiki, Boruto era sasuke should be beyond kaguya. IDK why you put Ashura avatar Naruto below Sasuke's bijuu susano'o when they were literally equal in AP. Guy is vastly inferior to Madara and everyone else in upper six paths, put him down to six paths. Six paths naruto should be in upper six paths imo. Hokage Naruto, the last Sasuke, and SM hokage Naruto are beyond Kaguya (based on manga feats) the last KCM3 SM naruto is either upper six paths or beyond kaguya. Boruto era Sakura is probably beyond Kaguya, if not she's upper six paths. 1 eyed Boruto era sasuke is probably still six paths level if not higher. Borushiki is upper six paths or beyond kaguya. Jigen is above Kaguya.
This list sucks
Mans had like 0 impact on the plot, glad he's gone
Mans needed to die to motivate Naruto to get stronker
Idk why you think he left too soon, mans died at the right time in the story
Friggin Uchiha
Idk why you think this when minato died like ep 1...
She would have no impact on the plot and would just be another chunin/jonin
Same as minato
Obito died at the end of shippuden bozo idk how thats "too soon"
Mans was an old man, it'd be boring to just have the same hokage every goddamn time, glad he died
Mans died to a branch, shoulda lived
Death (kinda) made sense, and Naruto is plenty strong without him, I'd say his death is fine
Probably had potential
Probably had potential
Nothing else going for him. can't have two child of prophecies
Good motivation for Shikamaru, also has like no impact on the plot, still could have some potential
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Old ass woman on deaths door died "too soon"
Size depends on the amount of chakra being used,
rotational speed is one of the fundamental things needed to make a good rasengan so of course having better speed means having better AP.
rasengan is a close range jutsu so it makes sense that the speed of hitting it increases its strength.
rasenshuriken > rasengan
But if we were to pick the most impactful thing, it would be the amount of chakra
Ur lyin dyss
Why y'all not considering DMS kakashi in your arguement? mans blitzes everyone here
@RadicalJD thats the confusing part. Body flicker is also sometimes used to refer to the flying thunder god, which wouldn't make sense as they didn't use it to transport to the war.
Tobirama could also be talking about his body flicker IN that moment, not in his prime, which might not contradict Madara's own statement. it seems like Tobirama and hashirama received the harshest nerfs in terms of power when becoming edo
Well any way to prove that this is photoshopped? I know you're lying but I'll humor you, on what ground are you stating that I'm showing falsified information?
I actually believe that it's the 2nd definition. if we take what Madara is saying in context, he's comparing the situation that the two of them have found themselves in. Madara says something along the lines of "now it is I that the heavens are smiling on". meaning that Tobirama was "blessed" in some way, most likely speed, and now that he's nerfed he's no longer being "blessed" with the fastest speed.