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Aizen slams the verse

@Tim Xman would you say Itachi is stronger than Madara was? Because I’m pretty sure Izuna was stated to be Madara’s equal at the time of his death (tho I might be making that up I don’t remember where I saw it)

Plus it just seems weird to say one character is stronger than another just because one is featless. We don’t have the information to say Izuna is stronger, but we also don’t have reason to assume he’s weaker

Definitely

If nothing else, we’re gonna meet shibai

I saw a what if video of Madara as the first Hokage, and it’s always gonna be interesting

Because you KNOW he’s taking Kurama for himself

DMS and Hokage Kakashi are stronger than prime Jiraiya, who is narratively stronger than all previous forms of Kakashi

Feats wise tho War Arc Kakashi is enough

@Tim Xman how do we know itachi is stronger than Izuna? We have no idea how strong Izuna was, we don’t even know his MS powers, Susano’o, or any of his techniques

We have less info on his strength than we do on Fugaku, and he’s already borderline impossible to scale

Those are two different versions of Madara with wildly different power levels, and Hashirama is Hashirama. He’s the strongest Kage before Naruto by miles. He’s the exception. Literally the only guy in history who could throw hands with Madara (before Naruto and Sasuke)

Tobirama mid diff, at most

Massively better in all stats, flying raijin to get past Susano’o, experience fighting stronger Uchiha, etc.

You do realize I never said Tobirama was stronger than Hiruzen, right? I just said Hiruzen wasn’t the strongest.

Hashirama and Minato, both in terms of portrayal and feats, are far above Hiruzen

I also never said Tobirama matched Juubito. Nobody matched Juubito, he was the strongest thing on the planet. I said he kept up in the battle, which you just sent a panel of him doing.

There is no reason to assume she wouldn’t be. She’s immune to MOST genjutsu.

No reason to assume something weaker than Sasuke’s would work.

It was stable Juubito that did that. That’s a different version than the one Tobirama was actually fighting against (I’m pretty sure). Plus, it’s Juubito. He was the strongest entity on the planet at the time by far, leagues stronger than swirly Zetsu guy.

Tobirama was keeping up in the original battle against Juubito (teleported truthseeking orb back, swapped with Minato, etc.), which is objectively a more impressive feat than Hiruzen matching a Zetsu

She is basically immune. The assumption, until proven otherwise, is that a genjutsu wouldn’t work on her.

We can’t assume Itachi’s would because the only one we’ve seen work was massively stronger than anything he has. If Sasuke had used just his MS, then yeah maybe we could assume Itachi’s would work, but it was a Rinnegan, so we can’t.

I don’t think this is that complicated of an idea

Obito slams. Charges through all his attacks and just kills him.

Also, for clarification, is this Obito with his 6 paths or no? Because without them he should theoretically be able to use the Rinnegan abilities as well (since if I remember right, he said he couldn’t use them because he was controlling the tailed beasts)

I think Orochimaru would figure something out. I’m not smart enough to know what, but Orochimaru is smarter than everyone in the series except maybe Amado, and constantly pulls new powers out of his ass so he’s do something

I like Gaara most as a character, but Sasori is just such a vibe to me. Idk why, I just like him

That wasn’t prime Hiruzen, and none of the other Hokage were fighting him

If I remember right, Hashirama was fighting Madara, a way stronger enemy, and Tobirama and Minato were helping against Juubito, a way stronger enemy

Hiruzen was just matching a weaker enemy than the other 3 were fighting

Yeah that’s why I never said she was immune.

And there’s no reason to assume Itachi’s would work, because the only one we’ve seen work was leagues above Itachi’s. Literally the same genjutsu Sasuke used to immobilize every tailed beast simultaneously

Yes, bleach massively outscales Naruto

And kenpachi’s answer to space-time ninjutsu is the same as his answer to everything else: cut it

@DBZFan2001 hashirama being able to easily break out of Orochimaru’s control at any time, their performances in the war arc (Hashirama pinned down the ten tails alone, something far more impressive than anything any of the other 3 had ever even attempted), Minato’s entire portrayal in Part 1 is that he was like, the strongest shinobi ever, etc

Prime Hiruzen has 1 statement that isn’t backed by anything, and that’s literally it

Do you know what “basically” means?

She isn’t entirely immune, but there’s so few genjutsu that work on her that she’s basically immune.

Learn to read full sentences.