@Dantman

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't know where to find this information.

@Sajuuk

The guy is intentionally being a prick because he knows about this stuff and instead of helping a person out, he goes to mock them for not knowing. Great leadership as an admin, not.

As the guy who preaches about not making it personal, you really have a double standard...

@Serk

Aww...you're still here. Thought you would have left since you made it abundantly clear that you were not serious about the thread. But, carry on.

As Sarutobii mentioned, please keep this civilized. Please focus on discussion relevant to creating a consensus on what we are discussing, not interpersonal jabs. All three of you.

@Dantman:

https://narutoversity.wordpress.com/second-databook-jutsu-files/

Well yes, but that's still something that should've been made clear ages ago. I'm not even sure if we have a rule on something like that.

If the original text contained all information and the new text removes some of them, then of course it will be reverted to the original text. That's standard wiki procedure.

@Rachin123 / Speysider: Listen, I know that you guys don't like me. What I need you both to understand is that I do not care. Not 1%. You can try to undermine and personally attack me all you want with your petty remarks and what not. I said it before and I'll say it again, just for you: If you have any problems with what I do on this wiki, make a thread about it. I'm not going to take any comments you make elsewhere serious, especially if they come from someone who's barely active and literally only comes back to make these kind of remarks.

@Tau

What you are not understanding is that pinpointing a reliable site can take a long time. If information is removed, it could be very well because it is a hyperbole, include run-on sentences, or just a bunch a babble that can be shortened to get to the point. It's not an intent to troll or anything like that. I have been editing on this site for 5 years now and I'm still not that aware of sites that many others are. And that's perfectly understandable. Nobody is attacking you. You're condescending demeanor is what is unnecessary. As I've said, it's called helping someone out, instead of criticizing them. Not even @Dantman knew where to get the information from.

Anyways, to avoid anymore confusion, I really suggest adding a do not edit section for the databook entry part of the jutsu page. I would say lock the page, but at the same time, there may very well be a point where trivia points or users of the jutsu can be added, and it just wouldn't seem fair to allow only sysops to edit those pages.

Of course I understand that. But you could've asked me for help. Or Omnibender or someone else. There's a reason we're sysops. :)

And I spoke to Omnibender about locking certain articles, although according to Speysider, that's just to make people stop editing altogether (for reasons unclear to me, but well...).

I raised a similar concern many years ago, and the wiki's editors (essentially) weren't thrilled about attributing databook information to the databooks, thought that doing so would somehow cheapen the wiki. Some samples of that proposal are:

• Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumpling
• Flying Swallow
• Hiding with Camouflage Technique
• Poison Mist
• Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind

Amusingly, the sample version of Shadow–Neck Binding Technique had more references (5) than the wiki's current version (2).

I don't know who you keep responding to, there is no user by that name in this thread. If you are attributing a random editor's name to another because you don't like that user, that doesn't exactly bolster your point and makes you look more like a troll with a personal problem. Assuming your annoyance is being directed at me, since that's who you keep attributing such a name to when responding to things I have posted, the reason the discussion on sysop talkpages was brought up is because it seemed to be rather related to the point of "not changing content", which this thread was started on the premise of (whereby an editor had his edit reverted for seemingly no reason).

As the question was open ended, the implication was that users wanted to lock multiple articles they deemed as "completed", and that would apply to a lot of wiki articles about episodes and chapters (since nothing would change there), alongside jutsu and characters which were never shown again.

I will step out of this thread now, especially since I've already said my opinions on the matter, and since it seems you are only going to listen to opinions that coincide with your own and any opinions you don't like are attributed to people who have never posted in this discussion.

Jeez this is rough. Late to the discussion I know.

The translations that we get are from Shounensuki (I think some are on forum pages he had and some are on user pages for him here) who had done quite a few databook translations before retiring and Seelentau (I think?) for the last databook. It’s not exactly "word for word" it’s simply a translation.

With that said, I’ve reverted quite a few of Raichin123's changes to technique entries, not only because the information was translated from the databook but speaking from a content editor's perspective there are cases where they’re modified articles and changed the entire meaning of it or else skewed the information in it. The reason we started using "databook translations" so long ago was because that information is the most accurate interpretation of what a technique is meant to be described. There’s less margin left to our interpretation and as a result less arguments amount whose ibterpretation is wrong or right.

Snapper2 made the bid to have the translations in quotations a while back, but it never took (there was the issue of whether a translation no matter how accurate can be considered their exact words) I think that would be a more effective use of our time rather than what looks like busy work editing articles that are otherwise fine…