Not sure what the argument is anymore lol, but to respond to this topic in particular, we are now in Borutos world. Naruto & Sasuke aren’t the central characters anymore, so uplifting the kids is the route the writers are gonna naturally move towards. Sadly, what that’s meant is nerfing these guys in ways that are kinda lazy.

The original series didn’t do this stuff with the older generation then (Kakashi, Guy, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, the Kage, etc....) but we didn’t have any comparison points at that time either, so....

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