- What's stopping it from sealing the juubi?
- If it can't seal the juubi, then what is it speculative limit?
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Everything revolves around people, interacts with them, therefore according to you they all should be treated alike normal ninjutsu regardless of what's stated of it.
I don't see the point of this association game of yours. If it interacts with people, jutsu and chakra then yeah, it can't suddenly not interact with it whenever you want it to. Point being, you can't add rules just because.
Ninja Of War wrote:
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Everything revolves around people, interacts with them, therefore according to you they all should be treated alike normal ninjutsu regardless of what's stated of it.
I don't see the point of this association game of yours. If it interacts with people, jutsu and chakra then yeah, it can't suddenly not interact with it whenever you want it to. Point being, you can't add rules just because.
then don't add rules to the Sword of Totsuka, heed your own words.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Not sure what you are saying here exactly, but the series shows Madara having defeated Onoki multiple times with ease.
Even if PS cant tank Dust, it isnt a problem for Madara and it never has been
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
That is flatout untrue
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Then Tsunade got a refill and then Madara stomped all of them without PS
Either he thinks it will be ineffective or they did try it and it didnt work out. Either way, PS was on the field untouched.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Yep. I dont recall Gaara even trying to use it so there is no benefit to use it against Madara
It was used as a tool against Shukkaku because of how it had a direct negative impact on his sand.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
They only had the bijuu because Obito had control of both the ninja and the Bijuu.
Kabuto revived the ninja but he didnt have control of them, nor was he in possession of the Bijuu, nor did he
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Yes he can. He can physically connect himself to it control it.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Madara is that pitiful without his own powers? lmao
Madara is pitiful because he is stronger than 95% on ninja without using something like the Gedo Mazo?
That makes B, Naruto, Nagato, Sasuke, Kabuto, and Kakashi "pitiful" because most of their abilities are borrowed from others
Being butthurt about Madara's expanded arsenal wont make it go away
FlatZone wrote:
then don't add rules to the Sword of Totsuka, heed your own words.
What are you talking about lol? I didn't give special rules to the TB.
We have to be honest about Onoki here, Onoki on his own has some nifty techs but you have to be able to hit somebody with the dust release for it to get them and against somebody skilled enough with the Sharingan I doubt you will land the Dust Release on them
@Legion
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
You really need to start using that quote button again because i dont know what the hell you are referencing
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
You cant just make statemants about chakra constructs without evidence but that doesnt stop you
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
You really need to start using that quote button again because i dont know what the hell you are referencing
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
And your logic is that if a character doesnt use an ability that they are incapable of it.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Anyways i've proven how those overrated clones can be taken care of.
And ive debunked that strategy. Simply stating "Dust release" isnt a legitimate answer.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Not sure where you got this idea. A is around 8 tails level and he couldnt break through a single of the Susanoo clones. He couldnt even break through Susanoo ribcage. He could barely break through Sasuke's fresh MS Susanoo ribcage
Also, the Bijuu were never in Kabuto's control, even when they were inside the reanimated Jinchuriki. They are in Madara's corner
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Who do you think does what now?
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
"Wah wah wah! I cant handle Madara getting stronger"
LegionZero wrote: Even if PS cant tank Dust, it isnt a problem for Madara and it never has been
Then it's settled then.
You cant just make statemants about chakra constructs without evidence but that doesnt stop you
Where was the lie in my statement?
Either he thinks it will be ineffective or they did try it and it didnt work out. Either way, PS was on the field untouched.
So here you are again saying jinton will be ineffective against PS? tf...stick to one point already.
And ive debunked that strategy. Simply stating "Dust release" isnt a legitimate answer
Mu was never the counter for the clones but the Original Madara.
Who do you think does what now?.
All i know it's stated that a fake rinnegan can't control the statue, and you're trying to say it can so i'll just ignore everything regarding this unless it's backed up..
"Wah wah wah! I cant handle Madara getting stronger"
Oh please the weakest character in naruto one shotted him...soo....
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Where was the lie in my statement?
That the Totsuka blade, a chakra construct, doesnt abide by the rules of chakra.
That the Totsuka Blade only manifests once it hits the enemy
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
So here you are again saying jinton will be ineffective against PS? tf...stick to one point already.
You are conflating "ineffective" with "tankable"
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Mu was never the counter for the clones but the Original Madara.
And Mu is dealt with by clones/Susanoo/Rinnegan abilities
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Trash power scaling? No. Straight feats. A was shown damaging Gyuki, but failing to break through weaker levels of Susanoo from weaker characters than Madara
And weaker levels of Susanoo from Madara himself
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Because prior to the start of the war Obito had them
And during the war Obito had control of the jinchuriki with chakra recievers using them as his 6 Paths of Pain.
And when Edo Tensei was undone Obito had control of the Bijuu
And then the Bijuu were used to start resurecting the Juubi, who Madara took direct control of
When do you think Kabuto ever had control or ownership of the Bijuu?
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
All i know it's stated that a fake rinnegan can't control the statue, and you're trying to say it can so i'll just ignore everything regarding this unless it's backed up..
I mean you have been ignoring Madara literally plug and playing the semi-awakened Juubi.
Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:
Oh please the weakest character in naruto one shotted him...soo....
Keep miscontextualizing what happened if it helps with those tears.