Talk:Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique

== Jraiya? ==
When did Jiraiya used this and where was it confirmed that this is the fire technique nagato was shown using in the anime--[[User:Erik1310|Erik1310]] ([[User talk:Erik1310|talk]]) 16:49, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

:Second Fanbook says Jiraiya can use it. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 18:42, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

::I waited for someone to answer the second part of my question, but it seems that I have to repeat: where was it confirmed that this is the fire technique nagato was shown using in the anime?--[[User:Erik1310|Erik1310]] ([[User talk:Erik1310|talk]]) 17:36, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

:::No idea. I'm not sure it was confirmed, but if it was, it would be during one of the Tale of Gallant Jiraiya episodes, I remember there was an anime only sequence during which he used some elemental jutsu. I remember him using water and fire, but he certainly didn't use lightning. [[User:Omnibender|Omnibender]] - [[User talk:Omnibender|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Omnibender|Contributions]] 18:04, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

::::What I'm asking is when was it CONFIRMED that Nagoto's fire technique is Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique? It may very well be other fire jutsu.--[[User:Erik1310|Erik1310]] ([[User talk:Erik1310|talk]]) 18:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm seconding this question? It's not confirmed anywhere...[[User:Keibatsu|Keibatsu]] ([[User talk:Keibatsu|talk]]) 16:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

==Nagato==
When did Nagato use this? If it was in the anime-only sequence where he showed us how he's performing all five nature transformations, I propose listing him [[Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet|here]] instead as the technique is anime-only and Nagato didn't use a cord or anything to lead the fire.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 19:38, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:[http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Nagato/Archive_6#Great_Fireball_Technique.3F] /shrugs--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:48, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::I changed it to [[Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet|a generic Fire Release anime-only technique]].--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 20:49, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:::Also, he doesn't have a [[Lightning Release]] technique added, I would propose [[Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder|this]] as it is anime-only and looks like a generic lightning release technique.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 20:54, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::::Something that has a single user isn't exactly generic. Did he show Lightning Release in the anime too? I recall him using only 4--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 20:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:::::He used all five, when Jiraiya explained that he mastered all the elements that he was capable of teaching to Nagato. I don't remember seeing wind though, but lightning was definitely there. The surge of lightning and the description looks generic enough and its an anime technique, I don't think we'll lose much.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 20:58, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

I disagree with this, but whatever. Where is Cerez?--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 21:03, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:I disagree as well, we can't just declare a random technique to be the generic thing everybody can use. [[User:Iloveinoxxx|Iloveinoxxx]] ([[User talk:Iloveinoxxx|talk]]) 21:05, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::It looks generic and Nagato performed his in a similar fashion. Do you have a better option?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:07, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes. Don't list him anywhere. We had the generic nature transformation articles for these cases, they were taken down for being too generic, so we don't list the techniques anywhere anymore. [[User:Iloveinoxxx|Iloveinoxxx]] ([[User talk:Iloveinoxxx|talk]]) 21:08, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::::I know that, and that's why I listed Nagato. Because he's still listed in the [[Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall|other]] [[Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet|generic]] techniques that he didn't use outside of that.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:11, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::::This is no different from the stream articles, and that case we just listed the nature in his/her box and that's it. I agree with the fire technique adjustment omojuze, but not so much the lightning one.--[[User:Minamoto15|Minamoto15]] ([[User talk:Minamoto15|talk]]) 21:33, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:::::Either we list 'em all or we list none of them. That's how it should be done, why should we make an exception with [[Lightning Release]]?--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:36, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

I believe the decision was not to assume techniques unless obvious. If a character uses an unidentified Fire Release for example, the nature simply gets added to him or her.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 21:52, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, I believe we decided that. That's why I got confused seeing Dragon Fire Technique listed for Nagato and listed a lightning release technique for him too.--[[User:Omojuze|Omojuze]] ([[User talk:Omojuze|talk]]) 21:56, February 6, 2015 (UTC)
::The only cases when we may label an unnamed technique is when it can be deduced from the hand seals and/or if the appearance and effect are identical to a known technique. But when has this place been consistent I guess.--[[User:Elveonora|'''Elve''']] {{Mod}} <sup><small>[[User talk:Elveonora|Talk Page]]|[[Special:Contributions/Elveonora|Contribs]]</small></sup> 22:10, February 6, 2015 (UTC)