Talk: Himawari Uzumaki

Surname

Is it confirmed that she's using the Uzumaki as her surname? ~IndxcvNovelist ^{→talk • contribs • watty←} 16:37, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, just like her brother . Every child gets the surname of its father SeraphAngel (talk) 16:53, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Where? Anyways, it's not always the case that kids get their fathers' surname, for example Naruto Uzumaki. They might have been using the Hyūga surname (that surname is more popular in Konohagakure than Uzumaki). ~IndxcvNovelist ^{→talk • contribs • watty←} 17:52, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

True, we shouldn't give the surname to quickly for kids when it is just our assumptions... but it is likely that it is Uzumaki since Naruto is from a prestigious Uzumaki clan, world hero, and Hokage; but still, we shouldn't make assumptions about this stuff.--Deathmailrock (talk) 19:24, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hyūga is one of the four noble clans as well. Please feel free to check the thread I created Thread:152322 ~IndxcvNovelist ^{→rollbacker • talk • contribs • watty←} 19:27, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

The only character given the name of a mother known is Naruto and that's because of Minato's reputation. But, with Naruto's kids, Naruto himself is alive, so why would they want to hide that they are his kids? Also Hyūga without Byakugan? Ok, doesn't make sense does it?--Omojuze (talk) 19:29, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not really implying they are using Hyūga surname. Actually, I'm more pointing out why a surname is being used in this article when it hasn't been mentioned in the manga. ~IndxcvNovelist ^{→rollbacker • talk • contribs • watty←} 19:30, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

"Every child gets the surname of its father " Then by that logic Naruto's actual last name is Namikaze. SeaTerror (talk) 19:47, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Also you guys named Ino and Sai's girl Yamanaka, so say father's surname again? :P--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 19:50, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Corrections

Can somebody (Admins) correct this one? Especially the Hizashi thing, It's supposed to be "Granduncle" NOT "Grandaunt" Because Hizashi Hyuga is a male NOT female. -_- Galaxyldrago28 (talk) 02:04, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

It's not so simple since it is a template-related problem, otherwise I would had been able to help fix it myself. -Adv193 (talk) 02:02, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

You're correct, there is an issue with it. Narutopedia has been acting a little buggy. I'll contact someone that can help. • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 02:10, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Degree of relationship

I've noticed that, while Hinata's and Neji's infoboxes say that they are cousins, Boruto's and Himawari's infoboxes say that Neji is their uncle. As their infoboxes also say that Hanabi is their aunt, this may be misleading. In the proper meaning of the word, Neji is their second cousin while Boruto and Himawari are Neji's first cousins once removed. They call him "uncle", yes, but Hinata also calls Neji her "brother", despite being his cousin. --Matako (talk) 16:31, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Exactly this, it should be corrected for good, not sure why people need to make things problematic--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 16:56, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Then get to it? You have editing powers I imagine. I do, however, ask that we make a trivia note that states, in effect, that Hinata calls Neji "brother" and Himawari refers to him as "uncle". As good as accuracy is, from the biological standpoint, it is also important to record a character's perspective on the situation. Hinata clearly thinks of Neji as her brother and Himawari thinks of him as her uncle. Real people do this too (I'm one of them), so a trivia note shouldn't bother anyone. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 17:12, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

It should also be noted, for accuracy's sake, that cousins-once-removed can be called "aunt" or "uncle" (again, I do this, but it is actually a fact). Neji is Himawari and Boruto's cousin-once-removed, so technically he can also be their "uncle". Seeing as how Kishimoto flat out had Himawari call Neji "uncle", this is the route he took, so I see no reason we shouldn't. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 17:15, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

I have studied this stuff a lot, actually, and Ten Tailed Fox is correct. Neji would, in fact, be Himawari and her brother's first cousin once-removed. The child of your cousin is your first cousin once-removed, and the cousin of your parent is your first cousin once-removed.

Especially in Japanese culture cousins can be referred to as siblings (niisan, neesan), and therefore, first cousins once-removed as uncles/aunts.

StillAlive (talk) 18:28, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, but this wiki should be comprehensible for broader audience, not Japanese people.--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 18:30, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

What they specifically would call Neji is irrelevant. The point is that Neji is their first cousin once-removed. Not just by Japanese standards, but by all standards. The honorifics thing was just "supporting evidence" if I'd even bother calling it that. Relationships like "once-removed" aren't a Japanese thing. It's a biological relationship, and I think it would be worth changing their relationship with Neji to that.

StillAlive (talk) 02:14, November 13, 2014 (UTC)

In both Himawari and Boruto's infoboxes and pages listing Neji as second cousin is wrong because they are not cousins of same generations, If Neji had a child then he/she would be second cousin to Himawari and Boruto in relation, Neji should be uncle to them, it is not misleading in Hanabi's infobox as aunt because she is sister to Hinata and cousin to Neji and so she is aunt to Boruto and Himawari respectively, If you had reached consensus that is first cousin once-removed it should be that, but it's not mentioned, we have two option for Neji 1st cousin once-removed or uncle, I have some Idea why not put Neji as uncle again and also Kishimoto said this.Types of cousin list and according to this chart If you put Hyuga elder as great grandfather you see what I mean.--Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 12:27, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Okay it's still not second cousin, second cousin mean they have both different grandparents (it's true in some cases like iff Neji was in same generation as Himawari/Bolt as in this case, In reality Himawari's grand father and Neji's father are different) but we are looking things common in-relation just to Himawari (different grandparents) it's an error, so it's misleading as second cousin. so I will edit as first cousin once-removed (difference of one generation), or Uncle (nothing wrong in that Neji could be uncle to Himawari because, Hiashi and Hizashi were twins and their DNA was identical, so both Hinata and Neji despite being cousins can be sister-brother).Naruto uzu6254 (talk) 05:29, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hinata never called Neji cousin or anything, she always saw him as an older brother.. albeit for the first 13 years he was an asshole older brother, that and the fact that genetically they are half siblings makes it work. I'm guessing Hiashi and his wife and helpers raised Neji once his father died no matter how angry and resentful Neji was and the anime kind of elaborated on that. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 22:09, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

In any Asian context, Japanese or otherwise, referring to Neji as Himawari and Boruto's cousin just flat out looks and sounds wrong. The whole concept of 1st and 2nd cousins with the once removed, twice removed etc system is a very westernised system and non-existent in an Asian context. To translate directly, the words from Japanese or Chinese than can be translated to 'cousin' refers only to an offspring of your parent's siblings. Cousins always refer to someone of the same generation as you are. In other words, Neji being of the same generation as Himawari's mother would be considered as an Uncle, regardless of whether Neji was Hinata's cousin or brother. In fact, in Chinese, (and probably japanese), there are specific prefixes to denote a cousin-uncle as opposed to a direct uncle. I understand that the correct English term to refer to Neji would be their first cousin once removed, but at the very least in the text, if we're not gonna use the whole full term, can we just refer to Neji as the uncle instead of cousin? It's really very confusing when the just the word cousin is used like that. Besides, as others have pointed out, it is not wrong to call your first cousin once-removed as your uncle. Woohoot (talk) 06:37, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Infobox

so i notice the Infobox is missing Bolt as her brother can someone fix it (i'm new to the Naruto wiki) --WardenMaster (talk) 16:02, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

We're working on it. There's an issue with the infoboxes. • WindStar7125 _[Mod] 16:03, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Age

There are 6 candles on her birthday cake (http://www.bilibili.com/mobile/video/av2683007.html 22:20) does that make her 6 years old?--♀winterbells1♪ (talk) 01:00, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

@Winterbells1 - Likely yes. She isn't an academy student yet and because we know Sarada is 11 we can pretty much guess the graduation age is 11-12 normally which corresponds to the Japanese graduation age from Elementary school, which indicates the academy mirrors the Japanese elementary school system where they enter at the age of 6 or 7. And as i said she isn't an academy student yet which means she is too young to get in. That fits perfectly with her supposed age of 6. She will probably be an academy student a year after the story ends. The age difference is not that uncommon either, my brother is also 5 years younger than me. - --Exkirion (talk) 02:33, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

How do we know Sarada is 11 years old? --Questionaredude (talk) 15:40, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

The Back of this said so.--Omojuze (talk) 15:42, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

I would hold out until the Zai no Sho states her age. "The Last" and Chapter 700 had Himawari and Boruto much closer in age than that and to be honest 4 foot 5 inches is pretty tall for a six year old. I'm more thinking she's about 9-10 but the Zai no Sho or the movie itself will give us the correct answer. After all, candles on a cake aren't 100% reliable...my sister sure as hell doesn't want 28 candles on her cake last month. Shock Dragoon (talk) 17:33, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Um, it says she's 5-6 in gaiden but thats clearly not the case. In chapter 700 she looks about 5 imo, and Boruto is about 7 in that chapter I think. And in gaiden Boruto is 11/12, so theres no way she could be that young in gaiden. And in the trailer she's too tall to be that young. And in The Last Boruto is like 5, so if she was that much younger than him, she would have just been a baby, which she wasn't. I don't know if there are just 6 candles on the cake, but maybe in Japan they don't do it that way, or Hinata or whatever just simply didn't do it that way. She's OBVIOUSLY not that young. Its not even debatable tbh. (Clear Waters (talk) 18:30, August 6, 2015 (UTC))

Personality

According to the recent videos and the Zai no Sho spoilers she is also stubborn when it comes to things she want (As she argues with Boruto loudly whether or not she can bring her panda with her to the point they almost tear the poor toy in two). Also unlike her mother in her age she seems very active and self-confident, calling out to and waving to Boruto from afar when they meet up during a shopping trip with her mom. She might also be a bit of camera shy as her expression on the official family photo featured in Kaze no sho (http://a.mfcdn.net/store/manga/8/72-700.2/compressed/h001.jpg) seems a bit reserved. - --Exkirion (talk) 07:27, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

image

why is this imge there her rihgt pupil is bigger than her left its gross pls go back to old oneA Wkia contributor (talk) 17:42, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. The image is of better quality overall. Once an HD rip of the movie is released I'm sure we'll find a better image. --Mandon (talk) 02:53, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded an image you can use in her Doujutsu (Byakugan) section. It's from a HD scan from the zai no sho chapter, so it's all shiny high quality and nice. Unless Studio Pierrot decides to include this in anime episode i doubt we will ever have a colored image. ---Exkirion (talk) 01:04, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

^Impressive. Good work. ★WindStar7125 01:06, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

In regards to her Byakugan

In the translation of the manga short of Naruto's Hokage inauguration that I read, the last panel had a text box that read "The Byakugan gives the user the ability to see through solid objects, but we digress...". What did they mean when they said "but we digress"? Can Himawari not see thorugh solid object with her Byakugan, or was it joking about how perhaps she was pretending to not see Boruto? Diamonddeath (talk) 07:53, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

The Japanese starts with 余談ですけ = Yodan desu ka... Which in this context means something like "This might be obvious, but..." or "This might not need an explanation, but...". I bet you read the MS translation. Don't ever believe half the stuff those guys "translate". They rewrite 50% of the dialog half the time. People bash on MP, but that one is usually infinitely more accurate despite the mistakes they make. --Exkirion (talk) 10:52, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

^1000% true. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 10:54, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Regarding her ability to "knock someone out for a day"

In regards to the line "According to Hinata, a single strike from her is strong enough to leave a person unconscious for a day.", bearing in mind that Naruto apparently got chakra-poked in the nads (considering his comedic drooling when Hinata finds him rather than just being plain unconscious), is the above line correct? --Sera404 (talk) 12:40, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'd say that was his lower stomach, but regardless of the place the KO-d tenketsu were Naruto was rendered vegetable for a day with a single strike, so yeah, it's correct. --Exkirion (talk) 13:30, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Pertaining to Himawari's byakugan

Himawari was shown to have the byakugan. Zai no Sho says that Himawari's eyes are characteristics inherited from her father Naruto, from this can we say that Himawari has blue byakugan? --DC52 (talk) 02:28, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

No. And you really should read the forums. ★WindStar7125 03:36, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

@WindStar7125, i read that thread, but i never saw it mentioned that Zai no Sho says that Himawari's "eyes are characteristics inherited from her father Naruto" --DC52 (talk) 03:54, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

So? That means her regular eyes by default are blue like her father's. No where in that text does it say "her Byakugan is blue." That's speculation. ★WindStar7125 03:58, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's about her blue eyes, not her Byakugan. Same as Boruto, he has blue eyes as well. • Seelentau 愛 ^議 12:19, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Himawari's byakugan color (anime)

The thing is byakugan is white (it means white eye literally), but in the anime they have always added lavender tint to all Hyuugas eyes. But Himawari’s case, SP made her Byakugan to have blue-ISH tint. I'm sorry but to me she has a bluish tint on her eyes, http://borutoverse.tumblr.com/image/147206780300 . Here's the chart: http://borutoverse.tumblr.com/post/145684102745/majin-lu-byakugans-colors I don't understand how the anime is "inconsistent"; they always opted for lavender tint eyes on hinata+ othe rhyuuga. 1 2 3 4 5 6 and I could go on. I'm sorry but I don't agree with the 'anime is inconsistent' with Hyuuga's eyes. Just like Hinata and every other Hyuuga in the anime, they have featureless white eyes (the anime depicts them with tinges of lavender); then, Himawari's byakugan section needs to be changed to featureless white eyes (the anime depicts them with tinges of blue)--*MsIsamisa (talk) 22:36, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

In Neji's battle against Hinata, his eyes would appear white.--Steveo920 (talk) 22:41, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

I checked the episode* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeQeFiePbdk

Both of them still has a levender tint: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnMx4JQWYAEUPFG.jpg:large Meanwhile, on the other hand, Himawari Uzumaki, doesn't have it: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnMww__XYAE2EdR.jpg:large . This needs to be corrected.--*MsIsamisa (talk) 23:00, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

What does any of this have to do with the article?--TheUltimate3 ^(talk) 00:59, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I want to fix Himawari's byakugan section (and byakugan page) by adding: featureless white eyes (the anime depicts them with tinges of blue) . That's all. --*MsIsamisa (talk) 02:08, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

@JouXIII ; so how will the discussion end? By looking at the charts, while the rest of the Hyuuga's byakugan have a lavender tint, Himwari's have a blue tint. Anyway, asides from that, how will this discussion go? --*MsIsamisa (talk) 15:57, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I see settei was found for her and boruto giving their sizes and age difference

Can someone link me to it?? QuakingStar (talk) 13:29, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Just read the article's history ;) • Seelentau 愛 ^議 19:00, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Byakugan Age

I am curious as to why Himawari's age is said to be three when she awakens the Byakugan. I don't remember it being mentioned in the OVA or episode, and she's talking considerably better than a three year old in both. Is there a guide or something that should be cited in the notes of the article to confirm this age?Miraitrunks766 (talk) 12:35, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty sure i mistook her being the same age as during her cameo in The Last when i added it to the article. Not sure is she's mentioned to be three here though. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 13:55, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

We know she was older than three when she activated her Byakugan due to the settei sheets. Here's the settei sheet from the Last: it depicts her as three years old and doesn't show her byakugan, implying she hasnt awakened it yet.

File:Him3.jpg

Here she is 9-10 CM taller and presumably about 2 years older (5 yrs old?) its from Hokage Inauguration day, when she activated her Byakugan for the first time. Her Byakugan is clearly seen here.

File:Hima4.jpg

So we don't know exactly when Naruto became Hokage, or how old Hima was, but she was presumably about 5, and definitely not 3, so ive edited it back to 'young child'.Therona6 (talk) 11:53, May 25, 2020 (UTC) Therona6

Hyūga Clan

I thought someone couldn’t be a member of two clans (refer to Archive 2 on Boruto’s talk page), yet the latest anime episode outright stated Himawari as a Hyūga member. So what gives....are we gonna leave it in her box? Because if so, Boruto should added as well. Mina ^{talk | contribs} 22:26, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

I think that unless someone outright says that Boruto is also a legitimate member of the Hyūga, only Himawari should be classified. And, well, the anime decides whether someone can be classified as being part of two clans. Besides, the Uzumaki ain't much of a clan anymore anyway, soo.... HygorBohmHubner (talk) 22:29, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

Que? They're born to the same parents. Either you list both clans to both Boruto and Himawari, or just Uzumaki to both. Consistency. Mina ^{talk | contribs} 22:39, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

I think this is because, Uzumaki are NOT a clan anymore, in other words, we probably shouldn't even list Naruto etc. as members of the clan. They are Uzumaki family, it's their last name, but they are not a clan, therefore they belong to Hyuga Clan.--Elve _[Mod] ^{Talk Page|Contribs} 11:59, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

I personally feel that Naruto etc. should still be classified as Uzumaki Clan members because it is their bloodline origins. At the same time, I feel that Himawari and Boruto should not be classified as Hyuga Clan members since they were born into the Uzumaki Clan. I think what Hanabi meant is that Himawari and Boruto are honorary members. Like how Shikadai is born a Nara, but his bloodline made him qualified to potentially become Kazekage, having also descended from the Kazekage Clan.--Steveo920 (talk) 14:41, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, Uzumaki clan should stay at least. Kakashi doesnt have MS anymore, but we still list him. Mind you i was making the same argument Hygor is making now back then, but was loudly rebuffed, so i just want consistency is all. Mina ^{talk | contribs} 03:01, May 2, 2020 (UTC)