I'd like to use this scene as an image for demonstration of the KKG. It's the only one that actually shows both sage transformation and passive absorption of natural energy and I know Seel's opinion on this already, him stating that it's "Kabuto's malice" rather than natural energy entering his body :D--Elveonora (talk) 13:14, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Bump--Elveonora (talk) 22:04, September 24, 2014 (UTC)


I hate to open this can of worms again, but going by the fourth databook, none of Jūgo's techniques was marked as either senjutsu or kekkei genkai, pretty much saying his techniques are neither. How do we handle this? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:32, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

For real? Cause unless I'm blind, he is marked as a Sage in the book--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 08:53, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
In his character entry, there is a mark for senjutsu use, but no mark for kekkei genkai. And none of his named techniques in the databook have either senjutsu or kekkei genkai marks. There are a few entries scattered through the databook regarding senjutsu and his cursed seal ability, maybe those can shed a light on the situation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:16, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
None of his abilities have senjutsu? Hmmm... • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 16:37, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe Seel of FF-Suzaku can shed some light on this--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 16:59, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Bump--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 15:21, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Bump2--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 15:57, November 19, 2014 (UTC)
I've asked Seelentau in the databook translation thread. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 20:51, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Obito + New Databook Info

Chapter 666, page 6 I think, is right after Obito finished absorbing some Ten-Tails chakra from Madara. Directly after Madara notes that it was correct of Obito to use "Sage Transformation" when he uses his newly regained Truth-Seeking Ball to counter Madara's. A lot of the popular translations I can find on the web just put it as 'Sennin Mode', but when I checked the kanji they were the same exact same ones as Juugo's Sage Transformation. I originally tried to edit the article at the time to include Obito as a user, but I was dismissed.

I'm only bringing it up again because Madara (and I guess obito) as the Juubi's jinchuriki are both using 'Rikudo Senninka (Six Paths Sage Transformation)', according to new databook info. And since Juugo isn't a Kekkei Genkai user, that would mean Sage Transformation isn't a Kekkei Genkai. My point is is that I think what Obito is using post-juubi and what Juugo's clan is using are the same thing. And if I had to make a guess, I'd say this technique is something originally passed down by Hagoromo as the Juubi's jinchuriki. Skarrj (talk) 23:38, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

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