Was that actually stated that he is one?--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:58, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

No. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 03:54, April 30, 2018 (UTC)
Good, because not only has that never been clearly stated, I think it would be strange for the leader to be number 4. For all we know, he is just second in command, the acting leader when the true leader is absent or something.--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 09:13, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

black rods

Aren't they the same old Rinnegan ones? And yes, I know we haven't seen any Rinnegan from Jigen, but even the Gedo Mazo could spawn black rods without it--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 08:47, July 22, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure about it. This seems to be a logical assumption but they work somewhat differently from the Rinnegan rods. I mean, Naruto said that the rods were absorbing his chakra, while we know that Rinnegan rods didn't have the absorption quality, only inserting user's chakra to hinder the movements. Plus, Naruto was surprised to see how Jigen's roads work, which is weird for a person who's already seen Nagato's and Momoshiki's receivers in action. Ravenlot 27 (talk) 09:24, July 22, 2019 (UTC)
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