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  • Is Sasuke a pseudo-jinchuuriki?
  • Kurama also said "Demonic Statues." Were there more?
  • We'll wait for color on whether Sasuke used Chidori arrows.
  • So what of Asura's chakra avatar? What do we assume now? Naruto's three-headed avatars came from natural energy. Do we assume Asura's a Sage?
  • Was Naruto using a Tailed Beast Ball or TSB? Thought TBB came from the mouth...

Questions I could answer myself, but I wanna hear your opinions on improving the relevant articles. • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 12:05, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

  1. No, his Susanoo is.
  2. Not necessarily.
  3. He did.
  4. Ashura's "battle avatar" has pretty much been confirmed to be Kurama Senjutsu Shadow Clone Tailed Beast Mode whatever
  5. TSB--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 12:09, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
I primarily agree with Elv, but I would list Sasuke as a pseudo as the chakra is in Susanoo, but Susanoo is just an extension of him and his chakra. "Let go your earthly tether." (talk) 12:30, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
  1. Sort of, but it seems to be a temporary enhancement.
  2. No, Kurama meant "since all that chakra isn't fusing with the Demonic Statue, it will be something different from the Ten-Tails".
  3. All that lightning looks like Chidori.
  4. Asura was given power from his father and has the same abilities as Naruto, so he could use Six Paths Sage Technique, Truth-Seeking Balls and was Kurama's jinchūriki.
  5. Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken.--Mangekyō Sharingan Izuna JOA20 12:38, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
  1. No, Susanoo is a new Gedo Mazo.
  2. No, there's no pluralism in Japanese. Likely a translation error.
  3. Clearly Raiton Arrows
  4. Naruto's three headed avatar didn't came from natural chakra and also looks different than Asura's.
  5. When? • Seelentau 愛 12:48, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

End of the chapter, Naruto threw two Rasenshurikens. One was black, one was white (well normal but it was colored white)--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:49, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

One was Yin, one was Yang, hurrdurr. No, the white one was a normal Rasen Shuriken, the other one was a we'll-wait-and-see-how-many-TSB-Naruto-has-left-next-chapter. :) • Seelentau 愛 12:52, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
I was about to say zero because he blew up the three he started with at the start of the battle, and naturally this chapter starts with 3 new ones coming out of nowhere. I hate Truth-Seeking Balls.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 12:55, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

@Seel, http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ashura_Mode.png http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/File:Naruto%27s_Battle_Avatar.png still not Kurama's jinchuuriki? :P--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 13:29, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Probably not. Kurama, if memory serves me correctly is a fox.--TheUltimate3 Eye of Rikudō (talk) 14:02, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
No. • Seelentau 愛 14:12, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
  1. No...neither the tailed beasts nor their chakra is sealed within him to be qualified as a jinchuriki...his susanoo simply acts like a container for their chakras to keep them combined TEMPORARILY in one place.
  2. No...most likely a mistake in translation as seelentau pointed out.
  3. I THINK if it was chidori we would see a BACHICHICHI sound effect somewhere...it's simply a raiton created from TB chakra... or maybe I'm wrong.
  4. Again I THINK they're different...Asura's head is fox-like...& it had a necklace or sth...& naruto's didn't come from natural energy alone...whatever chakra makes his six paths sage tech also makes this form.
  5. Kinda hard to say...the possibility is equal for both of them...& also, I don't get why his normal RS was blank white at first...or is it sth else...maybe that yin & yang thing some think is the case... --DARK ZER06 (talk) 17:25, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

@Ulti, how is Ashura's not a fox? The pattern, save the shoulders and beads is now completely identical ._. @Dark, Naruto has thrown one Wind Release: Rasenshuriken (the white) and Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken made from his Truth Seeking Ball (the black) it's not yin and yang--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 17:13, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Elve, in all seriousness... so what if the markings are the same? Naruto's is clearly a fox because Kurama is. Yes, Asura's has the same markings. So? Look at Asura's avatar carefully in its faces. It's not Kurama. Seriously. Same markings... so what? Automatically Asura's is a fox. Jeez. • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 18:49, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
I wouldn't be so adamant that Sasuke isn't a (pseudo-)jinchūriki after this chapter. Going by the latest criteria given by Sasuke himself, simply having part of a tailed beast's chakra makes you a jinchūriki, no fūinjutsu required. Of course, that would logically make Kakashi, Kinkaku, and Ginkaku Nine-Tails jinchūriki, but I guess it's not the wiki's job to make sense of things like that, just document them.--BeyondRed (talk) 19:00, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Meh... @Red, Sasuke isn't a jinchuuriki, like Kurama said, his Susanoo is holding the chakra like the Demonic Statue. Unless you think the statue is a jinchuuriki... Do you? Because if you don't, then Sasuke isn't either. The Susanoo is holding the chakra in just like the Gedo Mazo. • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 19:03, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
So we'll only consider him a jinchuriki if he cancels Susanoo and takes the chakra into his own body, right? Seems like a good solution, given what we have to work with.--BeyondRed (talk) 19:22, October 16, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, that's reasonable. • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 19:34, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

Susanoo is a chakra exoskeleton/an avatar. Since the Tailed Beasts aren't inside of his body, but outside, he isn't a jinchuuriki--Elve [Mod] Talk Page|Contribs 19:55, October 16, 2014 (UTC)

  • Sasuke's Susanoo is the new Gedo Mazo. That makes perfect sense, no joke, no sarcasm.
  • No pluralism? Alright then, thanks Tau.
  • That manipulation of lightning chakra to me looked like natural lightning, but whatever.
  • Thank GOD we haven't added assumptions to Asura's article despite Naruto's new Mode. Yeesh, there have been so many to his article sometimes.
  • Yeah, that probably was a Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken. Meaning it was both a TSB and a Tailed Beast Ball, since Naruto transforms a TSB to a TB Ball and adds wind chakra to it to create the technique. • WindStar7125 [Mod] WindStar7125 Task WindStar7125's Task 19:59, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
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