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:But the anime image is greyscale except for his eyes. There's no real difference in colour.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:45, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
:But the anime image is greyscale except for his eyes. There's no real difference in colour.--[[User talk:Cerez365|Cerez<sub>365</sub>™]] [[File:Hyūga Symbol.svg|20px]] 15:45, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
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::Why are we still using the two different images for Shisui? In his [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/3/34/Shisui_uchiha.png first Manga appearance] in comparison to [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/b/b5/Shisui_Anime.jpg his anime appearance] was because his eyes weren't completely encircled by a black mark. Yet in his [http://images.wikia.com/naruto/images/9/98/Shisui_Mangekyo.jpg second Manga appearance] we can clearly see his eyes aren't completely encircled. This is clearly not a defining trait of Shisui's appearance nor should something this minor be a reason for two identical images.
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::While I can understand a second image for pages like [[Hanzo]] where they miss an obvious difference in Hanzo's eyes or [Konan]]/[[Yahiko]] where they use the incorrect colour for their eyes having one for pages for when Kishimoto does slight differences in his drawing style shouldn't warrant one.
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::For that matter this can transfer over to over pages such as the [[A|Fourth Raikage]], [[Onoki]], [[Mei]], [[Darui|E]] [[Ao|T]] [[C]] [[Chōjūrō|...]] to where there is no difference between the two images other then who drew them. For a case like that the coloured one drew by Kishimoto has superiority. Quality of images should be defined by obvious common sense levels when displaying the Infobox image.
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::There are a whole list of characters after the Invasion of Pain arc because Kishimoto started to colour the characters more in the opening pages. Cutting things down to one image in the infobox should be a necessity with the page contain the image based off the list I showed above. --<font color="#0000A0">[[Special:Contributions/SuperN|¥]] [[User:SuperN|S<small>uper</small> N<small>ovice</small>]] [[Special:Random|↔]] [[User talk:SuperN|T<small>alk</small> <sup>2</sup> M<small>e</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/SuperN|¥]]</font> 19:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
   
 
== Shisui's genjutsu ==
 
== Shisui's genjutsu ==

Revision as of 19:01, August 5, 2011

Hokage

why does it say at his ocuppation: hokage???—This unsigned comment was made by 98.192.182.117 (talkcontribs) .

Just a mistake, Danzo has Shisui's Sharingan. Jacce | Talk 09:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Jutsu

should we add unnamed dojutsu to the list, and also to danzo's? 24.189.153.102 (talk) 12:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It is possible he did it in the same way that Sasuke controlled Manda, and then it would be just a normal Sharingan ability. Jacce | Talk 12:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Scratch that, ShounenSuki fixed it. Jacce | Talk 12:59, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Shisui and the 4th Mizukage?

On page 15 of chapter 459, Ao strongly implies that, at some point, Shisui used his eye technique to manipulate the 4th Mizukage, which was discovered by Ao.

Maybe it's not a certain enough accusation to be put in the article, but I think it bears mention. --206.83.232.99 (talk) 14:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Oser

You misinterpreted what he said. Ao only stated he saw through the jutsu that was controlling the Mizukage, making him an unofficial expert when it comes to recognizing when someone is being controlled. ~SnapperTo 19:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
The Mizukage makes reference to a possible connection between Shisui's eye technique and the one used to control the Mizukage in chapter 461, page 11. I think it merits mention. Bvdan (talk) 07:42, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Suicide

Can someone who is less inept with Japanese confirm this? The lone translation I could find doesn't go so far as to say he really did commit suicide, and Itachi is pretty blunt about the fact that he killed Shisui. ~SnapperTo 03:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I think that Itachi did kill him. Cooltamerboy (talk) 03:43, 15 August 2009 (UTC).

I think Snapper is waiting for a direct translation, and not a guess.....--AlienGamer--Talk-- 03:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought Itachi confessed that he killed Shisui. That's how he got his Mangekyo Sharingan. Why does it say Shisui committed suicide? Yatanogarasu 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The reference that editor gave has this to say about Shisui's death:
-The mystery of Shisui Uchiha's death-
Shisui's suicide happened around the time of Itachi's disaster. The death of he who was observing Itachi brought even more discord between Itachi and the clan.
Although it appears to state that Shisui committed suicide, the fact that it is titled "The mystery of Shisui Uchiha's death" already shows that there is more going on. The second databook doesn't make any clear statement on Shisui's death. All we have to go on are Itachi's words that he did kill Shisui. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 12:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Really?

Can someone show me the chapter page where Itachi "confessed" that he killed him? Cause I've never seen that, and it looks to me like some assumption made by someone. Like I said before, the manga presented the possibility of murder or suicide, and the databook confirms the suicide. [1]

I really don't know what else people want in regards to "proof" when it says he took his own life. The "mystery" is that we don't entirely know what circumstance caused him to do this as we for example know what caused White fang to kill himself, but the fact of the matter is Itachi didn't kill him. Wreiad (talk) 17:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I remember Itachi confessing it in the anime....Not sure of the epi, but well, its during Naruto's fight with Sasuka at the valley of ends...when sasuke goes down memory lane...--AlienGamer--Talk-- 17:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
You might think of epi 131. Jacce | Talk 17:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Chapter 225:
Sasuke: Kill my closest friend...?!
Itachi: Just as I did...
[reminders about Shisui]
Sasuke: You killed Shisui?!
Itachi: And now I have the eyes.
He's at the very least taking responsibility for it. You can argue, of course, that this is only another one of his lies. ~SnapperTo 18:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I've read: "...Um... Brother... Brother Did you kill Shisui-san!?" "Thanks to him, I was able to obtain this "eye"."

That doesn't sound like much of a confession or taking responsibility to me, and could easily mean that he got the eye from witnessing his death as Sasuke did. As for people using that as "proof" that he killed him, he said in chapter 222 page 18 that he didn't, so that's not good enough. Wreiad (talk) 19:16, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe those two sentences translated like that don't, but look at the whole conversation:
  • "You too are a person who can obtain the Mangekyō Sharingan, the same as me" (「お前も オレと同じ万華鏡写輪眼を開眼しうる者だ」, "Omae mo ore to onaji Mangekyō Sharingan o kaigan shi uru mono da")
  • .........
  • "However, there is a condition" (「ただしそれには条件がある」, "Tadashi sore niwa jōken ga aru")
  • "That is killing... your closest friend" (「最も親しい友を...殺すことだ」, "Mottomo shitashii tomo o... korosu koto da")
  • ......!
  • (Thinking) "Killing your closest friend...!?" (「最も親しい友を殺すこと...!?」, "Mottomo shitashii tomo o korosu koto...!?")
  • "Just like I did..." (「このオレの様にな...」, "Kono ore to yō ni na...")
  • [insert flashback to Itachi's questioning by the three Uchiha cops here]
  • "...That... Did Nii-san..." (「...あれ...兄さんが...」, "...Are...Nii-san ga...")
  • "Did Nii-san kill Shisui-san!?" (「兄さんがシスイさんを殺したのかよォ!?」, "Nii-san ga Shisui-san o koroshita no ka yoo!?")
  • "Thanks to that, I obtained these 'eyes' " (「そのお陰でこの"眼"を手に入れた」, "Sono okage de kono 'me' o te ni ireta")
The bold lines are Itachi's. This conversation comes from chapter 244, page 19 and chapter 245, pages 2 and 3. It is quite clear that Itachi at least claims he killed Shisui. --ShounenSuki (talk | contribs) 20:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
You shouldn't give too much weight to what he said in chapter 222; if he did kill Shisui, he's not going to confess it to four policemen. ~SnapperTo 03:51, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

...Body Flicker Technique?

Does this really need to be listed under his jutsu? Most ninja can do it, and on top of that, have we seen him using it?--Hasofcd (talk) 20:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

"Actually when a generic jutsu is used by a character much like a signature technique we do list it": Dantman's edit summary when he added it. Even though we didn't see him using it, he was famous beacuse of the speed of this jutsu...--AlienGamer--Talk (contribs)-- 20:49, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ya kinda like me I let my mind wander, and my signat ure technique is transformation, make my arm a sword, put a hole through my torso for dodging kunai, both my signature transformations.

Age

It said Itachi thought of him as a BIG brother. So if we new what age Itachi was say 16 we could say he was +16

That is exactly what i am thinking --Petar93 (talk) 09:52, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Anime?!

Hey, he did not preform in anime (as it says in article)! If he preformed, select the episode where he appeared.--Gaara95 (talk) 09:40, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

He was mentioned in episode 129, when he had been killed. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 12:05, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Team

Would he be considered a member of the Konoha Military Police Force, as he was sent on a mission by them? Arrancar79 (talk) 00:00, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Or the police could have just being using itatchi's best friend to get close to him. SimAnt 00:15, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

River's Location

Is this the same river where Sasuke was seen practicing his Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu in Episode 130? It's the only river I've seen that's close to the Uchiha Clan. So, could it be where Shisui was drowned? -- Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 01:59, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

that was a lake friend. I don't remember anyone ever saying Shisui was drowned near the Uchiha Clan settlement. --Cerez365 (talk) 02:09, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me Cerez. I had my doubts but I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't the place. -- Fmakck - Talk - Contributions 02:19, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Anime Image

Has the anime always been this bad? Shisui's eyes are supposed to be much rounder and the lines around his eyes should be whole. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 00:30, March 4, 2011 (UTC) Also, he looks like he's pouting... It makes him look much younger than the manga image. It's kinda cute, actually... —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 00:31, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Gotta admit - the anime's had better moments, I feel like the quality's been declining since Pain's Invasion. ~ Fmakck©TalkContributions ~ 00:50, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
Actually this image isn't that bad at all except for the minor details (at least the nose looks the same-ish) It always amazes me though that they can manage to replicate [this] perfectly but won't spend time on the characters. --Cerez☺ (talk) 14:22, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
He has completely different eyes; how's that a minor detail? —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 15:04, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
I never thought they looked that different but now that i looked at the chapter i can see what you mean. I just mean that it's not as bad as some of the things the animators have butchered brutally (you need to see Hinata's confession scene in the anime DX) --Cerez☺ (talk) 15:13, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
Hinata has the most creepy smile when she says she loves Naruto in the anime... And why didn't they show Naruto's reaction? Man, they butchered that scene for realz. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 17:29, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

[2] Shisui's eyes are now drawn different, could we possibly discuss if this chance is enough to only show the anime image??? --Gojita (talk) 14:14, August 3, 2011 (UTC)Gojita

They're drawn less round, I agree. Still, the eyes are fully encircled, which they aren't in the anime. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 15:03, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I realize the anime messed it up,but could we atleast have the image in the apperence section?the black and white page is abit unsettling considering how old a character he is.. 67.66.63.251 (talk) 15:35, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

But the anime image is greyscale except for his eyes. There's no real difference in colour.--Cerez365 Hyūga Symbol 15:45, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Why are we still using the two different images for Shisui? In his first Manga appearance in comparison to his anime appearance was because his eyes weren't completely encircled by a black mark. Yet in his second Manga appearance we can clearly see his eyes aren't completely encircled. This is clearly not a defining trait of Shisui's appearance nor should something this minor be a reason for two identical images.
While I can understand a second image for pages like Hanzo where they miss an obvious difference in Hanzo's eyes or [Konan]]/Yahiko where they use the incorrect colour for their eyes having one for pages for when Kishimoto does slight differences in his drawing style shouldn't warrant one.
For that matter this can transfer over to over pages such as the Fourth Raikage, Onoki, Mei, E T C ... to where there is no difference between the two images other then who drew them. For a case like that the coloured one drew by Kishimoto has superiority. Quality of images should be defined by obvious common sense levels when displaying the Infobox image.
There are a whole list of characters after the Invasion of Pain arc because Kishimoto started to colour the characters more in the opening pages. Cutting things down to one image in the infobox should be a necessity with the page contain the image based off the list I showed above. --¥ Super Novice Talk 2 Me ¥ 19:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shisui's genjutsu

If Shisui's genjutsu could only be used once in a decade, how could Danzo use it twice a day? First time five kage summit. Shortly after it was ready to use again at the end of Danzo's fight with Sasuke. --89.176.108.183 (talk) 14:10, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Itachi said Hashirama's chakra could help with the amount of times it could be used.--Deva 27 14:12, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
Still is Hashirama's chakra really so powerful to change the limit from a decade to just several hours? --89.176.108.183 (talk) 14:43, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
The Senju are granted a great life force. Think of them like super-charged energizer batteries.--Cerez365 Hyūga Symbol 14:50, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

it probably has something to do that the crow would die if it use it that much example kakashi using sharingan drains his chakra like whoa and a little bird is using the mangekyou sharingan it probably needs10 years to recharge its batteries danzo was human size and had alot of chakra and 1 hokage power and i bet shisui could use it has much as possible as he want but others have to wait especially animals made by (inosupreme)—This unsigned comment was made by 74.141.196.205 (talkcontribs) .

We don't know what the crow is or at least it's never been expounded on whether it was a summon or something like that. In any case it's just a medium and more than likely has nothing to do with the time between use.--Cerez365 Hyūga Symbol 17:59, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

itachi said he implanted the eye in the crow so the real not an illusion created by his genjutsu also temari use a sneezle or what animal it was to defeat flute girl so crow real and it has the mangekyou sharingan and its little body cant be doing that over and over again again shisui was the owner of the jutsu so he can use it anytime he wants along he had chakra the crow physical not imaginary thats why it come out naruto mouth and use its mangekyou sharingan on sasuke but that plan failed —This unsigned comment was made by 74.141.196.205 (talkcontribs) .

Missing eye

The article states that Danzo took the eye of Shisui after his "suicide". This is wrong. —This unsigned comment was made by 213.153.165.112 (talkcontribs) .

It's there.--Cerez365 Hyūga Symbol 20:14, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
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