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::::I'm disagreeing. [[User:Kingomanoki|Kingomanoki]] ([[User talk:Kingomanoki|talk]]) 05:51, August 26, 2018 (UTC) |
::::I'm disagreeing. [[User:Kingomanoki|Kingomanoki]] ([[User talk:Kingomanoki|talk]]) 05:51, August 26, 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::He's talking about Tsukuyomi before the "same blood" part, yes. But as I mentioned, the "same blood" is mentioned insomuch as being needed to defeat Itachi, not Tsukuyomi. And it's not appropriate for the wiki to apply statements about one thing to a second thing. It would be like, when given the statements, <math>A > B</math> and <math>C \le D</math>, you conclude that <math>A \ge C</math>. That conclusion ''might'' be true, but you've got not direct evidence of it. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 23:10, August 26, 2018 (UTC) |
:::::He's talking about Tsukuyomi before the "same blood" part, yes. But as I mentioned, the "same blood" is mentioned insomuch as being needed to defeat Itachi, not Tsukuyomi. And it's not appropriate for the wiki to apply statements about one thing to a second thing. It would be like, when given the statements, <math>A > B</math> and <math>C \le D</math>, you conclude that <math>A \ge C</math>. That conclusion ''might'' be true, but you've got not direct evidence of it. '''''~[[User:Snapper2|Snapper]][[User talk:Snapper2|T]][[Special:Contributions/Snapper2|o]]''''' 23:10, August 26, 2018 (UTC) |
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+ | ::::::Not to seem like i'm just trying to find anything to say, but what exactly proved *any* particularly skilled sharingan user can escape tsukuyomi? kakashi was put into tsukuyomi and yet couldn't escape, however sasuke was able to, and if we compare sasuke's skills with sharingan compared to kakashi, I would say kakashi is better. As well as, sasuke is actually related to itachi. Adding on, wouldn't he just instead be saying tsukuyomi makes him in a sense unstoppable since anyone not related to him can't escape tsukuyomi? [[User:Kingomanoki|Kingomanoki]] ([[User talk:Kingomanoki|talk]]) 05:56, August 27, 2018 (UTC) |
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Why was the part where it mentioned you will need to share the same blood as Itachi as well as possess a sharingan to escape tsukuyomi removed? Kingomanoki (talk) 02:05, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I took the "same blood" line in chapter 142 to mean defeating Itachi, not Tsukuyomi. (I also took it to mean any Uchiha, not just Sasuke.)
- Even if you believe "same blood" is in reference to Tsukuyomi, Zetsu's comments in chapter 388 indicate it's not a matter of having the same blood, but rather being skilled with the Sharingan. ~SnapperTo 03:29, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- However, before and after he says the bloodline quote( which if I remember correctly he specifically stated be related to "me") he refers to tsukuyomi. And Zetsu without a doubt indicates needing skill to break free, however i'm pretty sure even if you are related to itachi and possess a sharingan, for instance sasuke in part 1 would most likely not be able to break out, even though he's related.Kingomanoki (talk) 03:36, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me? ~SnapperTo 03:48, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm disagreeing. Kingomanoki (talk) 05:51, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- He's talking about Tsukuyomi before the "same blood" part, yes. But as I mentioned, the "same blood" is mentioned insomuch as being needed to defeat Itachi, not Tsukuyomi. And it's not appropriate for the wiki to apply statements about one thing to a second thing. It would be like, when given the statements, and , you conclude that . That conclusion might be true, but you've got not direct evidence of it. ~SnapperTo 23:10, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Not to seem like i'm just trying to find anything to say, but what exactly proved *any* particularly skilled sharingan user can escape tsukuyomi? kakashi was put into tsukuyomi and yet couldn't escape, however sasuke was able to, and if we compare sasuke's skills with sharingan compared to kakashi, I would say kakashi is better. As well as, sasuke is actually related to itachi. Adding on, wouldn't he just instead be saying tsukuyomi makes him in a sense unstoppable since anyone not related to him can't escape tsukuyomi? Kingomanoki (talk) 05:56, August 27, 2018 (UTC)
- He's talking about Tsukuyomi before the "same blood" part, yes. But as I mentioned, the "same blood" is mentioned insomuch as being needed to defeat Itachi, not Tsukuyomi. And it's not appropriate for the wiki to apply statements about one thing to a second thing. It would be like, when given the statements, and , you conclude that . That conclusion might be true, but you've got not direct evidence of it. ~SnapperTo 23:10, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm disagreeing. Kingomanoki (talk) 05:51, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me? ~SnapperTo 03:48, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- However, before and after he says the bloodline quote( which if I remember correctly he specifically stated be related to "me") he refers to tsukuyomi. And Zetsu without a doubt indicates needing skill to break free, however i'm pretty sure even if you are related to itachi and possess a sharingan, for instance sasuke in part 1 would most likely not be able to break out, even though he's related.Kingomanoki (talk) 03:36, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
