This technique is very similar to the anime-only water release technique like water jets, in season 1 episode 71, when Hiruzen fought against Hashirama and Tobirama. Zakata (talk) 17:01, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

No, they are totally different. 19:26, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Not really. They look and do the exact same thing thus they are likely the same jutsu. There's a precedent we should follow.--Reliops (talk) 00:31, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

I agree, they are both very high pressured jet streams of water. Pesa123456789 (talk) 11:10, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

^^^^Agree^^^^By me: Afif_Brika (talk) 14:52, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

There's a difference between spewing water out of the mouth and controlling a source of water. While the effects were similar, it's not the same technique.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 15:54, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
So what you mean about the difference of creating your own water or using an already existing source would mean that the techniques would be different? wouldn't that mean that such techniques as the water wall and water dragon technique would also not be "the same techniques" since those could be created from pre-existing water or made by your own chakra? Zakata (talk) 22:59, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

What technique from his fight with Hiruzen is this about? I don't recall him doing anything like this. The closest I remember might be some anime-only part where Tobirama attacks from underwater, but it's still different from this. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:12, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

The technique Tobirama uses in episode 71 resembles the Water Severing Wave, cause they're both high pressured water streams that can cut through most things, such as wood. And maybe he spewed it out from his mouth, or maybe used the already existing water. It's just like the water wall technique, create your own water or use already existing, even the water dragon bullet technique. Zakata (talk) 12:17, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

@Omni, how any different is the anime-only water gun techniques different from this? They look identical to me--Elveonora (talk) 13:02, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Unless I'm not remembering correctly, the technique I'm talking about was something Tobirama used, but something that was used from underwater, so while we could see the shots coming, we couldn't see him making it. Think a water version of Phoenix Sage Fire. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:37, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
He was the only one under the water at that time, but if thing's is getting too offensive, could we at least add it to a trivia for the "similarity"? Zakata (talk) 13:53, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not disputing that Tobirama would be the user, I'm talking about the look of the technique. I don't recall them being a lengthy water jet like this, more like a water bullet. The closest thing to this technique I recall is Fukasaku's technique, which the anime team for some reason that escapes me decided to change from tongue to water jet. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 13:57, January 18, 2014 (UTC) still nope? Also take into consideration we don't see manga in motion--Elveonora (talk) 14:43, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Definitely looks the same. The one thing that still doesn't quite add up to me (which I guess can be overly nit-picky on my part) is that the canonical WSW from the manga cuts. What Tobirama did in that anime-only sequence is more akin to piercing. I don't oppose us treating this similar to Flower-Fruit Mountain or Wind Release: Ultra Big Ball Rasenshuriken. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 15:06, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
No one said it doesn't cut, he just didn't spin his head I suppose :-) And yes, this wouldn't be the first anime thing turned canon, so unless some people feel like speaking up to oppose, they should do so now or have their mouths shut afterwards.--Elveonora (talk) 15:13, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Some anime images ([1], [2], [3]), for whatever. ~SnapperTo 21:28, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
I guess we could use them, they are kinda small tho, aren't they?--Elveonora (talk) 01:22, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Bump--Elveonora (talk) 14:38, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Mega bump--Elveonora (talk) 14:19, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Information updated. Not too sure about the image. I would at least prefer we use the canonical image.--Cerez365Hyūga Symbol(talk) 14:39, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
Ur a sweetheart, you've got my Valentine ;) We can use both I think, I mean, the techniques hardly look any different, think high-pressure streams of water.--Elveonora (talk) 14:44, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Rank B

This technique, used by Tobirama itself, is a mere modification of "Suiton: Mizu Kamikiri" which has the same basics, use water with a high pressure to cut. Kamikiri was used by Shizuku, who was a Rank C or B ninja, we can tell because of the difficulty of the fight. This is my main hypothesis on why this technique should be put as "B-rank." -- Badministrator Wikia (talk) 14:47, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Like I explained on your talkpage, ranks must be sourced. The only source for a technique rank is the databook. A rank cannot be added based on "it's similar to another technique", that's not really how it works here. --Sajuuk [Mod] talk | contribs | Channel 23:49, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
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