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    • Umishiru, who's the she? What Is KM and KG?

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    • Justin Holland wrote: Umishiru, who's the she? What Is KM and KG?

      Who??

      and KM = Kekkei Mora, KG= Kekkei Genkai

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    • if anyone can answer, do the techinques featured at the latter part of the book (the ones in small boxes) have the rank classifications written in the descriptions?

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    • So there havent stats for characters ?

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    • Questionaredude wrote:

      Justin Holland wrote: Umishiru, who's the she? What Is KM and KG?

      Who??

      and KM = Kekkei Mora, KG= Kekkei Genkai

      Talking to Umishiru of who the she Umi was talking about?

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    • I am guessing for Raikage, once they become Raikage they lose their birth name and take on the name A. I would not be shocked if A standed for Alpha and B, Beta.

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    • Fleaky wrote: So there havent stats for characters ?

      Nope, apparently they gave them nature charts instead

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    • Did Kurenai, Tenten, Shizune, anyone else get random natures too?

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    • Nope. He even gave Dan's element nature but not his neice's.

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    • So is Guruguru stated to be Tobi or was that just some misunderstanding?

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    • Rachin123 wrote: Did Kurenai, Tenten, Shizune, anyone else get random natures too?

      most likely since they haven't been really representing in shippudden. I mean does kurenai and shizune have a profile?

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    • Elveonora wrote: So is Guruguru stated to be Tobi or was that just some misunderstanding?

      According to Shakhmoot, Guruguru is Tobi.

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    • kurenai yes, shizune i forget

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    • The page I saw had Guruguru's name listed as Tobi in regular letters so I don't think it was a misunderstanding.

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    • So what's this I heard about Madara's Susanoo? Something about him being the only one using a specific type of it?

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    • So why hasn't the article been moved yet?

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    • I dunno Elveonora. Can't you do it? And does it need to be moved?

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    • So Susanno specialization are Madara's Ms powers? Not shocked considering Sasuke's MS focuses on Blaze release.

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    • Reliops wrote: So what's this I heard about Madara's Susanoo? Something about him being the only one using a specific type of it?

      Madara is the only Uchiha with a "Perfect" Susanoo according to the databook.

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    • @Rayzur Konohamaru gets natures and he wasntbreally represented either. Karin as well. Yang is the only one I support for Karin though. But also if genjutsu is yin release Kurenai she be listed as a user.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: @Rayzur Konohamaru gets natures and he wasntbreally represented either. Karin as well. Yang is the only one I support for Karin though. But also if genjutsu is yin release Kurenai she be listed as a user.

      • sighs, the whole thing is kinda messed up lol
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    • Ugh, you locked the previous thread and it ate a bunch of descriptions I had typed up when I tried to post them.

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    • Wow, was that a lot to write Suzaku? :(

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    • Umishiru wrote: So Susanno specialization are Madara's Ms powers? Not shocked considering Sasuke's MS focuses on Blaze release.

      Uh, these advanced uses of Susanoō aren't his powers. Not as Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu have been for others.

      And while he may have been listed as the only user, we've obviously seen it used by Indra, Sasuke, and Kakashi/Obito.

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    • @Rayzur This what I'm talking about with Kishi. He makes stats but don't give everyone who at least been in a fight them but give even the most minor character like Dan (Tsunade's lover) them even before the war, for what I don't know why. He randomly gives nature's to people out of nowhere but don't give others them. This is one of the reasons Kishi irks me.

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    • It's embarrassing how many errors the databook has, considering Kishi had 6 years to perfect it.

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    • Elveonora wrote: Wow, was that a lot to write Suzaku? :(

      Kind of. I can try to summarize.

      Divine: Deep Forest Emergence basically describes what we know from the manga, but it says it "consumes vitality to create a nursery/seedbed for the white servants (白き従者, "shiroki jūsha")"

      Sage Art: White Rage Attack, the caster gathers natural energy in their body as light, and then expels it from their mouth in the shape of a dragon.

      Sage Art: Gracious Deity Gates is a sealing jutsu that kneads together natural energy and chakra in the user's body to create gates that restrain the target.

      Sage Art: Wood Release: Veritable 1000-Armed Kan'on , the user releases a tremendous amount of natural energy from their body into the atmosphere to create a giant buddha statue, which they can then control with wood release. It's a jutsu capable of doing battle with a tailed beast. Its many arms can also be used to "judge" the opponent by unleashing a massive barrage of palm strikes.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: @Rayzur This what I'm talking about with Kishi. He makes stats but don't give everyone who at least been in a fight them but give even the most minor character like Dan (Tsunade's lover) them even before the war, for what I don't know why. He randomly gives nature's to people out of nowhere but don't give others them. This is one of the reasons Kishi irks me.

      He is the god and gods are not to be understood lol

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    • @Elve Yes I have got to agree with you on that. I don't know what's up with Kishi now a days.

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    • Read somewhere that dragon ball databooks also had these issues, lol

      Lucky that most of the "errors" are omissions, mismatching info would be worse

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    • Nature transformation had more importance.

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    • @Suzaku, so pretty much stuff that we could deduce ourselves so far.

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    • @Rayzur Rather he is the god of his show continuing with his inconsistencies, confusing logic and downright unbelievable plot turns is how you lose fans. Now I'm sure he makes money but I'm sure Naruto Shippūden isn't as popular as it used to be.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Elveonora wrote: Wow, was that a lot to write Suzaku? :(

      Kind of. I can try to summarize.

      Divine: Deep Forest Emergence basically describes what we know from the manga, but it says it "consumes vitality to create a nursery/seedbed for the white servants (白き従者, "shiroki jūsha")"

      Sage Art: White Rage Attack, the caster gathers natural energy in their body as light, and then expels it from their mouth in the shape of a dragon.

      Sage Art: Gracious Deity Gates is a sealing jutsu that kneads together natural energy and chakra in the user's body to create gates that restrain the target.

      Sage Art: Wood Release: Veritable 1000-Armed Kan'on , the user releases a tremendous amount of natural energy from their body into the atmosphere to create a giant buddha statue, which they can then control with wood release. It's a jutsu capable of doing battle with a tailed beast. Its many arms can also be used to "judge" the opponent by unleashing a massive barrage of palm strikes.

      so does that mean natural energy can create wood or substances?

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    • Are toads listed as Sage Mode users? That's what I want to know.

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    • For anyone not paying attention to the section were all the unimportant characters are listed, looks like that Root Aburame isn't Shikuro and "Fukai" isn't really called Fukai. At least the anime knew Fu and Torune weren't codenames, somehow.

      Elveonora wrote: It's embarrassing how many errors the databook has, considering Kishi had 6 years to perfect it.

      Feels more like it was made in a couple of months, honestly. Oh well, at least we finally get some answers.

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    • Right, so Naruto is classified as having kekkei genkai. Does that mean that

      • A) The use of manipulating pre-moulded chakra given to him by the bijū counts as kekkei genkai
      • B) Naruto retains those kekkei genkai on his own the same way Gaara retained Shukaku's Magnet Release

      As for the TSB and kekkei mōra

      • Obito, Madara and Naruto all use the same TSB that are described as being beyond kekkei tōta and includes many natures, however, rather being classified as kekkei mōra, TSB is simply a jutsu
      • Hagoromo has, from the looks of it, the same TSB but isn't listed as a user (does he have the kekkei mōra sign on his entry?)
      • Kaguya has produced one massive TSB that is also described as containing many natures, however it is specifically referred to as a kekkei mōra

      Someone help me make sense of this.

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    • I think so. Like Shima and Fukusaku. I don't think all toads use Sage Mode though even if they are on Mount Myoboku

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    • Lets get all the translations first, we then can make full sense of what is what.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: I think so. Like Shima and Fukusaku. I don't think all toads use Sage Mode though even if they are on Mount Myoboku

      Shima and Fukasaku weren't listed as Sage Mode users in databook 3 though. That's why there's debate about whether only humans can use it. Gamakichi or Hakuja Sennin being listed would clear it up, I suppose. Otherwise we're stuck guessing whether they count or not.

      @Reliops Hagoromo is listed with kekkei mora. In fact, he and Kaguya are the only ones. I'm pretty sure Kaguya's Expansion TSB has its own entry, so that may shed some light on things.

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    • "Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

      Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu. "Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: "Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

      Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu. "Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them.

      No mention of the Rinnegan or Deva Path on the page at all? Also, I think Madara also called the moon a "fuinseki" in the manga itself, when he explained it to Obito. Probably worth putting in the moon article as trivia, since it's come up again.

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    • @FF-Suzaku, what doesn't that mean Naruto can use it? >_>

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    • Hm. The ninjutsu Kabuto uses to manifest the Sound Five and Orochimaru from his body is a senjutsu / ninjutsu called Den'ien'ei (伝異遠影), which I believe is supposed to sound like "DNA." The kanji (den-i-en-ei) literally means "tradition strange distant shadow," and could be roughly be interpreted as "the strange shadows passed down over a long time."

      I'll have to look into this entry in greater detail.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Hm. The ninjutsu Kabuto uses to manifest the Sound Five and Orochimaru from his body is a senjutsu / ninjutsu called Denienei (伝異遠影), which I believe is supposed to sound like "DNA." The kanji literally means "tradition strange distant shadow," and could be roughly be interpreted as "the strange shadows passed down over a long time."

      I'll have to look into this entry in greater detail.

      interesting

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    • Guy was listed as being a Fire and Lightning Release user.

      I guess that confirms that Guy *can* use ninjustu, he's just really bad at it.

      Also, is there a Might Clan? I'm guessing not much information was given on his father.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: "Chibaku Tensei / Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" has a single entry, and lists "Nagato / Naruto and Sasuke, Hagoromo and Hamura" as its users. It's a kekkei genkai sealing jutsu.

      Six Paths Chibaku Tensei is invoked when two users simultaneously touch their target with the "Yin" and "Yang" seals. It rips a giant chunk of earth up and turns it into a heavenly body, becoming the Prison of Six Paths (六道の獄 Rokudō no Goku) that can capture all things (万物捕, "banbutsuto"). It's a sealing jutsu that can be used by individuals who awaken Six Paths Senjutsu. "Chibaku Tensei" is the version that can be used by a single individual, while "Six Paths Chibaku Tensei" is a more powerful version that requires two individuals simultaneously combining the power of Yin and Yang. It turns the sealing target into a gravity core in the sky, which attracts chunks of earth that bury them alive. This forms a heavenly body in the sky that can act as a prison for even a tailed beast. The section in the bottom left describes how the moon was the result of Six Paths Chibaku Tensei, and that so much chakra was contained within that it turned into a gigantic sattelite. It also describes it as a giant sealing stone (封印石 "Fuinseki"), which implies that Kishimoto took some inspiration from those giant "sealing stones" you sometimes see -- the big boulders with the kanji inscribed on them, usually with the ceremonial ropes adoring them.

      I am confused... Why it doesn't list Madara as a user?

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    • Honestly, many things are omitted.

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    • Reliops wrote: Right, so Naruto is classified as having kekkei genkai. Does that mean that

      • A) The use of manipulating pre-moulded chakra given to him by the bijū counts as kekkei genkai
      • B) Naruto retains those kekkei genkai on his own the same way Gaara retained Shukaku's Magnet Release

      Reliops, Gaara does not have the KG Magnet Release. So far, as for Naruto, I have no clue what stems from his bloodline.

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    • BeyondRed wrote:

      No mention of the Rinnegan or Deva Path on the page at all?

      The caption in the bottom left says, roughly, "Nagato who wielded the Rinnegan attempted to use this jutsu to seal the Nine Tails."

      I believe Chibaku Tensei is linked to the Rinnegan, while the Six Paths variant is a Six Paths Senjutsu that uses the Yin and Yang seals.

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    • The book in one part states that Kaguya has Sharingan, in another that she has Rinne Sharingan, which is it and what's the difference?

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    • I think, after complete translation of this databook unnamed techniques should be removed from this wikia.

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    • No, looks like we may get more databooks in the future based on the naming structure. When that naming structure is fulfilled then maybe. * goes back to editing*

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    • Salamancc wrote: I think, after complete translation of this databook unnamed techniques should be removed from this wikia.

      Yes, that and a few Fanon terminologies

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    • Okay, Kabuto's technique, Den'ien'ei (den-i-en-ei, to make the kana clear), says he infused himself with the cells of each member of the Sound Five, allowing him to use Attack of the Twin Demons; by infusing himself with their cells, he gained the ability to freely use their jutsu, talents, and kekkei genkai. It says that he uses Attack of the Twin Demons to manifest their upper torsos from his own torso, which allows him move independantly while unleashing their skills, so he can fight and move strategically at the same time. This gives him access to a stunning array of abilities.

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    • Salamancc wrote: I think, after complete translation of this databook unnamed techniques should be removed from this wikia.

      Well, there are a few things we have listed as their own techniques, which the databook indicates are simply applications of the parent jutsu... For example, Konan's paper bomb ocean isn't a seperate technique, it's just one way in which she can use her Divine Paper Emissary technique.

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    • Anything on the names of the Third Kazekage or Mizukage?

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Salamancc wrote: I think, after complete translation of this databook unnamed techniques should be removed from this wikia.

      Well, there are a few things we have listed as their own techniques, which the databook indicates are simply applications of the parent jutsu... For example, Konan's paper bomb ocean isn't a seperate technique, it's just one way in which she can use her Divine Paper Emissary technique.

      What is the Divine Paper Emissary technique though? Is it the technique she uses to control paper in general, whereas Shikigami Dance is what she uses to become paper? Has Shikigami Dance just been renamed?

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    • Paper person of god technique, i guess.

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    • Kaguya's Murderous Bone Ash is listed as a kekkei mora. It says she can use it to alter the properties of her bone, hardening them and turning them into weapons. It's different from, and more deadly than, (Kimimaro's) Macabre Bone Pulse, as the target struck by the "ash bones" will immediately begin to disintegrate and crumble away as soon as their body is pierced. One caption mentions she can launch the bones as projectiles, the other says that the target will begin to "rot away" starting at the point of impact, spreading over their whole body until they completely crumble/disintegrate.

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    • Salamancc wrote: Paper person of god technique, i guess.

      That's the one.

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    • Umishiru wrote: Anything on the names of the Third Kazekage or Mizukage?

      They have names, but they're illegible due to the name being on the crease of the scan.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Salamancc wrote: Paper person of god technique, i guess.

      That's the one.

      Does it explain what that technique does though? It was only mentioned once in the manga and never explained at all.

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    • I'm going to take a break to eat some food and do some chores. I'll be back later.

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    • Looking at Gengetsu's natures, maybe he employs earth release in his water like body to make it oily.

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    • BeyondRed wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Salamancc wrote: Paper person of god technique, i guess.

      That's the one.

      Does it explain what that technique does though? It was only mentioned once in the manga and never explained at all.

      Actually, looking closer, it is the name of the "paper ocean" technique. They're not two seperate things. It basically says it's the ninjutsu Konan used to transform the landscape into six-hundred billion explosive tags.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Kaguya's Murderous Bone Ash is listed as a kekkei mora. It says she can use it to alter the properties of her bone, hardening them and turning them into weapons. It's different from, and more deadly than, (Kimimaro's) Macabre Bone Pulse, as the target struck by the "ash bones" will immediately begin to disintegrate and crumble away as soon as their body is pierced. One caption mentions she can launch the bones as projectiles, the other says that the target will begin to "rot away" starting at the point of impact, spreading over their whole body until they completely crumble/disintegrate.

      So she doesn't use Shikotsumyaku, huh? That's interesting.

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    • The chunin exams from 24 years ago entry seems to confirm that Kakashi becoming a chunin at age six is still canon, even if the ages of literally everyone else present at said exam are wrong. At least the manga itself isn't contradicted by the retcons.

      On a related note, can't wait until we eventually get to the minor techniques, specifically "Doton Shoheki" (which has a name now) on page 324. In other words, "wonder how he'll write himself out of this one?"

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    • One more thing: Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique is actually "Flying Raijin Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique" (飛雷神互瞬回しの術), or as Viz correctly translated it, "Reciprocal Round-Robin Flying Raijin Jutsu." I'm not sure why Viz included Flying Raijin and the wiki didn't. Maybe just the way it was phrased? I'd have to see the raw... not that it really matters, since the databook clearly names it.

      When I get back, I'll translate the box on the Rasenshuriken article that mentions the Tailed Beast variants.

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    • I am gonna guess that like her dojutsu, her body based abilities also mutated and became weaker down the generations until we get stuff like macabre bone pulse. Her Kekkei Mora seems to allow her to control various aspects of her body fro various effects and these effects separated and specialized over time through her descendents to the point that they are not Kekkei Morea but Genkai(thus bloodline LIMIT), as they have a limited form her powers in some way.

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    • suzaku hurry, we are dieing here.

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    • What is Kekkei Mora exactly ? Combination of Kekkei Genkais or something else ?

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    • Its sort of a creation of all things ability be for for elemental chakra and body based kekkei. It is what is fueling her ability to use and fuse elements, her dojutsu powers, and any other body based techs besides maybe the hair senbon until retconed.

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    • Sorry to interrupt, but my previous comment got buried in the last thread. I have found a... interesting... page of the databook that someone told me means that temari started "a new world" with Shikamaru (cough, cough whatever that means cough cough). Here is the link. Could someone pulllzeeeeaaeseseesesesee translate it?

      http://imgur.com/1Vd5fer
      
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    • Plane in the Desert wrote: Sorry to interrupt, but my previous comment got buried in the last thread. I have found a... interesting... page of the databook that someone told me means that temari started "a new world" with Shikamaru (cough, cough whatever that means cough cough). Here is the link. Could someone pulllzeeeeaaeseseesesesee translate it?

      http://imgur.com/1Vd5fer
      

      shikamaru put his love inside her, and that created a new world

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    • >.> Kishi.......

      On a side note are we gonna go ahead a add yin release to all genjutsu, and yang to all medical techs? Are do you want to wait?

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    • Salamancc wrote: What is Kekkei Mora exactly ? Combination of Kekkei Genkais or something else ?

      I'm still flipping through so I'm not sure if there's a section concretely explaining Kekkei Mora and Kekkei Tota, but the way the manga described it was basically Kekkei Genkai = advanced nature transformation by combining two elemental natures, Kekkei Tota = three natures, and Kekkei Mora = all natures.

      It's a bit odd because Kekkei Genkai is also used to refer to other bloodline abilities that seem to be unrelated to nature transformations. But maybe those are a result of unique yin and yang release properties? We'll see.

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    • Honestly, I assume medical jutsu are Yin and Yang. And I believe Kekkei Moura is basically the ability to mix 4+ bloodlines at once, while Kekkei Touta is mixing 3 bloodlines, and Kekkei Genkai is mixing 2 bloodlines (I wouldn't necessarily say bloodlines, but different natures and techniques).

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    • What does Chomei do?

      I just remembered I really care about that.

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    • It seemed like Kishi was more concerned in trying to establish the character's base natures with this databook. Those not given their natures were either undecided by the time he sent the info over to organization and printing or he just didn't care to include it. Maybe next databook to touch advance natures and the mechanics of kkg and higher.

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    • Pwndkthnx wrote: Honestly, I assume medical jutsu are Yin and Yang. And I believe Kekkei Moura is basically the ability to mix 4+ bloodlines at once, while Kekkei Touta is mixing 3 bloodlines, and Kekkei Genkai is mixing 2 bloodlines (I wouldn't necessarily say bloodlines, but different natures and techniques).

      Looks like medical is Yang, since all medics have it and it's a fairly logical conclusion. I guess that's the sort of thing we'll probably never be able to add though, unless we get explicit confirmation.

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    • We can still add the Yin release to genjutsu techs right?

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    • Rinnesharingan and Ash-Killing Bones are Kekkei Mora, but not elemental ? I think, Kishi made all of Kaguya's techniques Kekkei Mora, that's the only explanation.

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    • Umishiru wrote: We can still add the Yin release to genjutsu techs right?

      Speaking of which: Hashirama. Dude must have Yin Release.

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    • Can we add Kurenai to a yin release user seeing how genjutsu is that?

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    • btw, was the Third Kazekage's name not released?

      Rachin123 wrote: Can we add Kurenai to a yin release user seeing how genjutsu is that?

      I just did.

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    • It was released but it is in the creases of the page so it is unreadable. Gonna need to scan the page flatter next time for whoever has the book.

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    • Okay, the "Sage Art: Super Biju Rasenshuriken" section says that, after being granted the power of the Sage of Six Paths, Naruto performed this ultimate jutsu. They're "Rasenshuriken" that have been proudly infused with the "special chakra properties" (チャクラ特性, chakura tokusei) of the tailed beasts, which Naruto unleashes simultaneously through Multiple Shadow Clones. It, uh, also describes it as "the most marvelous ninjutsu of all time." (空前絶後の忍術, Kūzenzetsugo no Ninjutsu).

      The caption says that it struck Kaguya's weak point, making it impossible for her to maintain her physical form. [Which is to say, it took advantage of her having the chakra of the nine tailed beasts and turned it into a weakness.]

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    • Umishiru wrote: I am gonna guess that like her dojutsu, her body based abilities also mutated and became weaker down the generations until we get stuff like macabre bone pulse. Her Kekkei Mora seems to allow her to control various aspects of her body fro various effects and these effects separated and specialized over time through her descendents to the point that they are not Kekkei Morea but Genkai(thus bloodline LIMIT), as they have a limited form her powers in some way.

      That goes well with the idea that all Kekkei Genkai in the series along with all Yin and Yang based techniques are just fragments of her and Hagoromo's powers, basically all ninja abilities are degraded remnants of the original powers.

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    • ok are there any translations on line

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    • I think, we can fuse "Ink, Acid, Steam etc." in one page: Chakra Tokusei.

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    • Rayfire wrote:

      Umishiru wrote: I am gonna guess that like her dojutsu, her body based abilities also mutated and became weaker down the generations until we get stuff like macabre bone pulse. Her Kekkei Mora seems to allow her to control various aspects of her body fro various effects and these effects separated and specialized over time through her descendents to the point that they are not Kekkei Morea but Genkai(thus bloodline LIMIT), as they have a limited form her powers in some way.

      That goes well with the idea that all Kekkei Genkai in the series along with all Yin and Yang based techniques are just fragments of her and Hagoromo's powers, basically all ninja abilities are degraded remnants of the original powers.

      as kaguya put it "scattered fragments"

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    • Reliops wrote:

      Umishiru wrote: We can still add the Yin release to genjutsu techs right?

      Speaking of which: Hashirama. Dude must have Yin Release.

      Hashirama does not have Yin, according to the databook. Which is strange. But then again, Naruto didn't have Yin either in that databook, but it was stated that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang, which he and Sasuke have, so... *shrugs*

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    • @WindStar7125, then statement about all genjutsu users having Yin is wrong X_X

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Okay, the "Sage Art: Super Biju Rasenshuriken" section says that, after being granted the power of the Sage of Six Paths, Naruto performed this ultimate jutsu. They're "Rasenshuriken" that have been proudly infused with the "special chakra properties" (チャクラ特性, chakura tokusei) of the tailed beasts, which Naruto unleashes simultaneously through Multiple Shadow Clones. It, uh, also describes it as "the most marvelous ninjutsu of all time." (空前絶後の忍術, Kūzenzetsugo no Ninjutsu).

      The caption says that it struck Kaguya's weak point, making it impossible for her to maintain her physical form. [Which is to say, it took advantage of her having the chakra of the nine tailed beasts and turned it into a weakness.]

      Funny how her own chakra messed her up

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    • So we have to ignore the previous statements and just accept things as canon like age discrepancies and hagoromo having the gedo statue in him.

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    • So the data book makes no mention whatsoever of what each bijū's specific to the Super Bijū Rasenshuriken was?

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    • FF-Suzaku, what can you translate from this? It's about the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

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    • Kaguya's Expansive Truthseeker Orb (膨張求道玉, Bōchō Gudōdama) is listed as a Kekkei Mora ninjutsu. It says that she used the Divine Tree to absorb chakra from all of the shinobi and create a maximized (極大化) Truthseeker Orb. The equivalent (同じ物だが, same/identical/similar) black orbs that appear behind Naruto's back when using Six Paths Sage Mode can't be compared to its dimensions. Comprised of all five elements and yin-yang, it had the power to oblitrate the world and return it to nothing. Caption: Comprised of all chakra natures, a vast, expanding mass is filled to the brim. Created to reshape the world, it was a huge mass of chaos.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      Reliops wrote:

      Umishiru wrote: We can still add the Yin release to genjutsu techs right?

      Speaking of which: Hashirama. Dude must have Yin Release.

      Hashirama does not have Yin, according to the databook. Which is strange. But then again, Naruto didn't have Yin either in that databook, but it was stated that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang, which he and Sasuke have, so... *shrugs*

      To me, the book seems to make it pretty clear that "Yin-Yang Release" and "Yin Release and Yang Release" aren't the same thing.

      I think what we can discern from this is that being able to use Yin-Yang Release doesn't necessarily mean an individual has mastery of both Yin Release and Yang Release.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: To me, the book seems to make it pretty clear that "Yin-Yang Release" and "Yin Release and Yang Release" aren't the same thing.

      I think what we can discern from this is that being able to use Yin-Yang Release doesn't necessarily mean an individual has mastery of both Yin Release and Yang Release.

      I agree. So technically, Hashirama has Yin being able to use the Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu (from the manga), but wasn't listed has having Yin in the databook, but only Yang. Tobirama can use the BoD genjutsu (from the anime), and was listed to have Yin and Yang. So maybe Tobirama can use Yin, Yang, and Yin-Yang; and Hashirama maybe can use Yin and Yang, but not Yin-Yang? That is my best guess, even though you said that usage of Yin and Yang does not confirm usage of Yin-Yang.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: FF-Suzaku, what can you translate from this? It's about the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

      Mugen Tsukuyomi is listed as a Kekkei Mora Genjutsu used by Madara and Kaguya. The rightmost lines are really blurry so it's a bit hard for me to read, but it basically says that the user approaches the full moon and opens the Rinne Sharingan, which is reflected on the surface of the moon, shining light onto the surface of the earth which plunges everyone into an eternal sleep. Divine: Deep Forest Emergence is then used on the helpless victims to let the Divine Tree capture them with its roots, so that it can steal their chakra for eternity.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      Reliops wrote:

      Umishiru wrote: We can still add the Yin release to genjutsu techs right?

      Speaking of which: Hashirama. Dude must have Yin Release.

      Hashirama does not have Yin, according to the databook. Which is strange. But then again, Naruto didn't have Yin either in that databook, but it was stated that Hagoromo's power grants Yin-Yang, which he and Sasuke have, so... *shrugs*

      Well if you look at it all Yin and all Yang have that one dot of the other inside of it. I suppose that allows one to do a little Onmyoton even if they can't directly control the other.

      If Genjutsu and the Sharingan are Yin aligned, then maybe Hashirama figured out a way to make a yang based genjutsu, which would show why it's so hard to break. Either that or Kishi watched the anime and got confused as to which brother had the genjutsu.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      WindStar7125 wrote: FF-Suzaku, what can you translate from this? It's about the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

      Mugen Tsukuyomi is listed as a Kekkei Mora Genjutsu used by Madara and Kaguya. The rightmost lines are really blurry so it's a bit hard for me to read, but it basically says that the user approaches the full moon and opens the Rinne Sharingan, which is reflected on the surface of the moon, shining light onto the surface of the earth which plunges everyone into an eternal sleep. Divine: Deep Forest Emergence is then used on the helpless victims to let the Divine Tree capture them with its roots, so that it can steal their chakra for eternity.

      How strange. Having the Rinnegan, a kekkei genkai, can make the wielder of it immune to the genjutsu, and it was stated that the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan's genjutsu, and that the Rinnegan can deactivate it.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote: To me, the book seems to make it pretty clear that "Yin-Yang Release" and "Yin Release and Yang Release" aren't the same thing.

      I think what we can discern from this is that being able to use Yin-Yang Release doesn't necessarily mean an individual has mastery of both Yin Release and Yang Release.

      I agree. So technically, Hashirama has Yin being able to use the Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu (from the manga), but wasn't listed has having Yin in the databook, but only Yang. Tobirama can use the BoD genjutsu (from the anime), and was listed to have Yin and Yang. So maybe Tobirama can use Yin, Yang, and Yin-Yang; and Hashirama maybe can use Yin and Yang, but not Yin-Yang? That is my best guess, even though you said that usage of Yin and Yang does not confirm usage of Yin-Yang.

      Actually, the databook states pretty explicitly that almost nobody can use Yin-Yang Release. At best, they only use a basic, rudimentary fragment of that power.

      Actual Yin-Yang Release seems to pretty much be restricted to people who have obtained power similar to that of the Sage of Six Paths (namely Six Paths Senjutsu and the Rinnegan).

      Keep in mind that the databook listing someone as having Yin Release and Yang Release doesn't mean they have Yin-Yang Release. Same as having Water and Wind doesn't mean they can use Ice.

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    • @WindStar7125, Rinnegan can deactivate it only with chakra of 9 TB aka TT chakra.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote: How strange. Having the Rinnegan, a kekkei genkai, can make the wielder of it immune to the genjutsu, and it was stated that the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan's genjutsu, and that the Rinnegan can deactivate it.

      It was stated to be a Rinnegan's genjutsu, a KKG's genjutsu, but the databook says the IT is a KKM genjutsu... strange... unless the Rinnegan is a KKM...

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote:

      WindStar7125 wrote: FF-Suzaku, what can you translate from this? It's about the Infinite Tsukuyomi.

      Mugen Tsukuyomi is listed as a Kekkei Mora Genjutsu used by Madara and Kaguya. The rightmost lines are really blurry so it's a bit hard for me to read, but it basically says that the user approaches the full moon and opens the Rinne Sharingan, which is reflected on the surface of the moon, shining light onto the surface of the earth which plunges everyone into an eternal sleep. Divine: Deep Forest Emergence is then used on the helpless victims to let the Divine Tree capture them with its roots, so that it can steal their chakra for eternity.

      How strange. Having the Rinnegan, a kekkei genkai, can make the wielder of it immune to the genjutsu, and it was stated that the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan's genjutsu, and that the Rinnegan can deactivate it.

      To be fair, who was stating that, and what did they really know?

      Some people here give too much credit to the words of fallible characters who base their knowledge on legends and folklore, most of which we know was altered by Black Zetsu.

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    • ^ Bingo. Exactly why I always called Elveonora out for saying "Kishi said" everytime a character says something. Characters can be liars or just flat out wrong. They are not (always) the mouthpiece of the author.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      WindStar7125 wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote: To me, the book seems to make it pretty clear that "Yin-Yang Release" and "Yin Release and Yang Release" aren't the same thing.

      I think what we can discern from this is that being able to use Yin-Yang Release doesn't necessarily mean an individual has mastery of both Yin Release and Yang Release.

      I agree. So technically, Hashirama has Yin being able to use the Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu (from the manga), but wasn't listed has having Yin in the databook, but only Yang. Tobirama can use the BoD genjutsu (from the anime), and was listed to have Yin and Yang. So maybe Tobirama can use Yin, Yang, and Yin-Yang; and Hashirama maybe can use Yin and Yang, but not Yin-Yang? That is my best guess, even though you said that usage of Yin and Yang does not confirm usage of Yin-Yang.

      Actually, the databook states pretty explicitly that almost nobody can use Yin-Yang Release. At best, they only use a basic, rudimentary fragment of that power.

      Actual Yin-Yang Release seems to pretty much be restricted to people who have obtained power similar to that of the Sage of Six Paths (namely Six Paths Senjutsu and the Rinnegan).

      Keep in mind that the databook listing someone as having Yin Release and Yang Release doesn't mean they have Yin-Yang Release. Same as having Water and Wind doesn't mean they can use Ice.

      Like there are only those who can combine certain elements and use them in ways unique to them, am I right?

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: To be fair, who was stating that, and what did they really know?

      Some people here give too much credit to the words of fallible characters who base their knowledge on legends and folklore, most of which we know was altered by Black Zetsu.

      Sasuke Uchiha stated that it was a Rinnegan's genjutsu, and Hagoromo said it can be deactivated with a Rinnegan and the chakra of the nine TB.

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    • @WindStar7125, shinobi can dispel genjutsu:sharingan by using "kai" chakra disturbance - it doesn't mean he need sharingan to do so.

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    • Maybe... Rinnegan (Kekkei Genkai) + Tailed beast Chakra = Rinnesharingan (Kekkei Mora) ??

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    • FF-Suzaku, you have a point though. I'll make the edits.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote: To be fair, who was stating that, and what did they really know?

      Some people here give too much credit to the words of fallible characters who base their knowledge on legends and folklore, most of which we know was altered by Black Zetsu.

      Sasuke Uchiha stated that it was a Rinnegan's genjutsu, and Hagoromo said it can be deactivated with a Rinnegan and the chakra of the nine TB.

      • Sasuke doesn't know shit. He's a 17(?) year old making an educated guess at best.
      • Hagoromo said he hypothesized that is how it could be deactivated. He had no proof as he was never able to do it himself.
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    • ...did you not read my last comment? I acknowledged FF-Suzaku had a point, no need to tell me twice, Ten. :P

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    • Kishi really should fucking check his math.

      Nagato was 35 at the time of his death. Minato, who died at 24, would have been 40-41 had he lived, i.e. 5-6 years older. Jiraiya taught Minato when he graduated from the academy at 10 years old. There's simply no way he met and then taught the Ame Orphans for 3 years.

      Also, Yahiko, who looked like he was 25-30, was apparently 15 years old when he died. lol, wat.

      Given the fact Konan was 35 when she died, I'm assuming that's how old Yahiko would have been had he lived as long.

      So if Yahiko died at 15, and Nagato and Konan died 20 years later, that would have meant Obito met them when he was 11 years old? Doesn't fit in the time line. Dafuqery.

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    • The ages are strange.

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    • Nobody in Naruto looks their age. Chakra is apparently amazing for the skin and muscles.

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    • I thought Jiraiya taught the Ame orphans before he taught Minato?

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    • Another of Kaguya's abilities, which is currently listed as "Tailed Beast Chakra Arms" on the wiki:

      Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.

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    • He did but the ages are so confusing. Kishi messes up on a lot ofstuff.

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    • Let's be real about it. Kishi screwed up on the math and the plot holes are showing because of it.

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    • Reliops wrote: Kishi really should fucking check his math.

      Nagato was 35 at the time of his death. Minato, who died at 24, would have been 40-41 had he lived, i.e. 5-6 years older. Jiraiya taught Minato when he graduated from the academy at 10 years old. There's simply no way he met and then taught the Ame Orphans for 3 years.

      Also, Yahiko, who looked like he was 25-30, was apparently 15 years old when he died. lol, wat.

      Given the fact Konan was 35 when she died, I'm assuming that's how old Yahiko would have been had he lived as long.

      So if Yahiko died at 15, and Nagato and Konan died 20 years later, that would have meant Obito met them when he was 11 years old? Doesn't fit in the time line. Dafuqery.

      The 15 has gotta be something that Kishi didn't think through. He looked older. If he was 17 then it pushes it back to eighteen years ago which fits almost perfectly. So at that point Obito is 13 when he appeared to them. Although far be it for Kishi to do something revolutionary like make characters in a three character group .... different ages.

      As for Minato vs the Orphans, if Minato died at age 24, then training with Jiraiya was 14 years before Naruto's birth. Which means He trained Minato first and trained the Ame Orphans second. That actually makes sense to me as Jiraiya thought Minato was the Child of Prophecy. It's far more logical for Jiraiya to revise that assessment because he met a kid with a Rinnegan than because he met a kid who was more talented than any he had ever met.

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    • I will delete the next gripe about ages. That I promise, regardless of who complains. Take it to the talk pages. I can't read Suzaku's translations without 20 people bitching about ages no one cares about. Go to the talk pages or not at all. Only warning.

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    • @TTF If people complain that do mean they care about the ages so you kind of contradicted yourself.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Another of Kaguya's abilities, which is currently listed as "Tailed Beast Chakra Arms" on the wiki:

      Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack (八十神空撃, Yasogami Kūgeki) is a Kekkei Mora taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of chakra. She loads chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect dojutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyuga clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm, but there is a wide gulf in power between the two.

      Question...it's a Taijutsu in the vein of Juken, but it's also a kekkai moura? Is it nintaijutsu? Is there a separate classification for that in the book?

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    • Was there anything on Roshi being a user of Nintaijutsu?

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    • I guess, Kekkei Genkai combined with the chakra of all tailed beasts makes it Kekkei Mora or just simply all of Kaguya's techniques are Kekkei Mora.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: I will delete the next gripe about ages. That I promise, regardless of who complains. Take it to the talk pages. I can't read Suzaku's translations without 20 people bitching about ages no one cares about. Go to the talk pages or not at all. Only warning.

      This is a thread for discussing the data books. The ages are valid topics of discussion seeing as they arise from the data book and effects the wiki at large. This type of bullish behaviour is totally unjustified on your part.

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    • I don't care. Move it or it gets deleted. I'm not listening to age arguments anymore. That is final.

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    • The full name of Kaguya's portal ability: Yomotsuhirasaga (黄泉比良坂), named after the slope that leads to the underworld in Japanese mythology; the section header calls it a "gateway to the underworld" (冥府の門口). It allows her to create an opening in space through which she can freely enter and exit any of her six dimensions, and it could be said that this technique was the original (元祖, original, founding, pioneering) space-time ninjutsu. It goes on to describe it as being similar to kamui in that it can be used to trap enemies, for transportation, and so forth (all the things we say Kaguya doing with it).

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    • @TTF You don't have to listen, technically your reading it. Age is a part of the situation. Stop trying to play boss here. This is what I mean when someone try and abuse power.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: @TTF You don't have to listen, technically your reading it. Age is a part of the situation. Stop trying to play boss here. This is what I mean when someone try and abuse power.

      No, it is keeping clutter out of this thread. You don't know what power abuse is, clearly, you just throw the term around when it suits you. I'd rather not (and I'm sure I'm not alone), read through 20 posts of bitching to get to Suzaku's translations. So knock it off. Go to another thread and gripe about ages, or take it to user talk pages. Or you can call my bluff and I'll delete the arguments here. Your choice. I have all night.

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    • Okay, skipping over the various uninteresting Raiton, I'm up to Rasengan which has a bunch of little sub-sections naming all its variants, with small captions describing them. This includes the Magnet Release version, so it should be interesting.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Okay, skipping over the various uninteresting Raiton, I'm up to Rasengan which has a bunch of little sub-sections naming all its variants, with small captions describing them. This includes the Magnet Release version, so it should be interesting.

      Oho, the Magnet Release version would be interesting.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: No, it is keeping clutter out of this thread. You don't know what power abuse is, clearly, you just throw the term around when it suits you. I'd rather not (and I'm sure I'm not alone), read through 20 posts of bitching to get to Suzaku's translations. So knock it off. Go to another thread and gripe about ages, or take it to user talk pages. Or you can call my bluff and I'll delete the arguments here. Your choice. I have all night.

      You clearly are abusing your sysop status if you think it gives you the right to talk down to us and bully us out of discussing valid topics. You don't own this wiki or this forum. I'll make a separate thread to discuss the topic. You could've done so or asked us if you hadn't blown your top.

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    • I do have the right to tell you to stop cluttering up threads with 20 variations of "Kishi screwed up the ages". If you don't think so, or that makes you mad, that's your problem. Some of us want to discuss and read the translations. You're interrupting that which counts as disruption. If you want to gripe about ages, knock yourself out, but it won't be here. Cry abuse all you want, but at least now the others can read the information and discuss it without having to hear how much Kishi screwed up the ages every thirty seconds.

      In short: Thanks for moving to a new thread.

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    • @TTF I clearly know what power abuse is. You don't like the subject despite it is about the databook. That's sad. I'm gonna put it this way the discussion about the 4th databook will be cluttered regardless. We already went through two threads and it wasn't even about the ages. I don't appreciate your attitude either.

      Anyways is there any info on Kurenai's baby?

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    • Suggestion: could there be a thread for Suzaku, Seelentau, etc. to post their translations while keeping discussion in this thread and/or a thread for discussion of ages and such to avoid clutter here?

      Edit: Never mind. I guess that just happened.

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    • Okay, Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan. It basically says that inheriting the Sage of Six Path's power made it possible for Naruto to combine Shukaku's Magnet Release with the Rasengan to amplify it with magnetic power (吸引力, different kanji from bansho ten'in).

      So, uh, yeah. It just tells us that he did what we saw him do.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Okay, Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan. It basically says that inheriting the Sage of Six Path's power made it possible for Naruto to combine Shukaku's Magnet Release with the Rasengan to amplify it with magnetic power (吸引力, different kanji from bansho ten'in).

      So, uh, yeah. It just tells us that he did what we saw him do.

      Brilliant.

      Still nothing concrete on Kekkei Mora?

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    • Putting this here: If you want to discuss ages, go to this thread.

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    • Do the 3rd Mizukage/Kazekage have profiles? and if they do do they have names given?

      also curious on the 2-6 tails and their jinchuriki info *drools*

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    • Six Paths Ten Tails Coffin Seal (六道十尾柩印, Rikudō Jūbi Kyūin), Kekkei Genkai Ninjutsu used by Obito and Madara. Taking the ten bodies of the tailed beasts into oneself, becoming a jinchuriki and gaining their power. It goes on to say that it's difficult to control the tailed beasts and that this can cause the user to have a psychological collapse, and needs to either have a suitably strong force of will, either inherently or by finding one, in order to gain control. If they do that, they'll obtain the terrifying/astounding power of a "god that shapes the land."

      The top caption says that when it seemed that Madara was making Obito use Rinne Rebirth, Obito was actually weaving the sings for the Six Paths Ten Tails Coffin Seal. The middle caption says that the caster condenses and absorbs the ten tailed beasts into himself, awakening ("blossoming") their original power (本来の力, primal power, essential power).

      The bottom left caption says, "To acquire the power of the ten tailed beasts is the same as possessing the power of the Sage of Six Paths, so it is accompanied by the same Truthseeker Orbs."

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    • RexGodwin wrote: also curious on the 2-6 tails and their jinchuriki info *drools*

      It just includes the TB's profile and description. Doesn't say anything about their individual elements.

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    • WindStar7125 wrote:

      RexGodwin wrote: also curious on the 2-6 tails and their jinchuriki info *drools*

      I just includes the TB's profile and description. Doesn't say anything about their individual elements.

      dammit! Which post did you post it? id rather not sit through and read ALL of these looking for one post.

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    • RexGodwin wrote: dammit! Which post did you post it? id rather not sit through and read ALL of these looking for one post.

      That was according to Tau. He didn't find any elements for the TB, just their profiles.

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    • Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto. Most of this page is too blurry to read, so I can only translate some of it.

      The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

      From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

      Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

      Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"

      Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

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    • if it's true that sasuke has all natures like naruto i think sasuke is very OP than naruto

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    • Nature doesn't matter anymore.

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    • as for now as;we know as a ninja gets older their chakra reserves get's higher,what if sasuke's chakra becomes equal or greater than madara i think sasuke will become OP because he will sustain enough chakra in his eyes and all his nature techniques will more powerfull.

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    • I am a bit new to this whole databook thing, but shouldn't there be stats up already? I mean, Naruto's previous stats are pretty pathetic for someone of his caliber. That kinda was the thing I was expecting the most. Seeing as it is a DATAbook.

      Also, what's up with every character AND their mother(sometimes literally) having Yin and Yang? Also, every character now has Nature releases that they might as well never use!

      And the last thing,no Ranks. What the fak man? I mean, Naruto should be S-Rank, shouldn't he? Every ninja should have a rank other than just 'jonin' or 'genin'. And even the techniques. Ultra Big Ball Rasengan can wipe away a mountain, and if that ain't S-Rank, I don't know what is.

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    • The 'R's are truly the most interesting section of this book...

      Limbo Hengoku, Kekkei Genkai ninjutsu used by Madara. I think we already know pretty much everything about this, but one interesting tidbit is that the invisible world (Limbo) is called a parallel world (世に隣接). I'm not sure if that term had been used before.

      From here on, there's some info on the Six Paths Treasured Tools, and the rest is very short descriptions of minor techniques.

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    • im just asking did kakashi master's all nature and yin and yang,If did he is stonger than hiruzen sarutobi? i have a doubt on it.

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    • Tangocharlie07 wrote: I am a bit new to this whole databook thing, but shouldn't there be stats up already? I mean, Naruto's previous stats are pretty pathetic for someone of his caliber. That kinda was the thing I was expecting the most. Seeing as it is a DATAbook.

      This book doesn't have "stats." Instead it has a chart showing what chakra natures the character are proficient in, and a lot of characters don't even have that.

      They don't all have proficiency in yin and yang. They only have proficiency if it shows the corresponding kanji instead of the symbol.

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    • Tangocharlie07 wrote: And the last thing,no Ranks. What the fak man? I mean, Naruto should be S-Rank, shouldn't he? Every ninja should have a rank other than just 'jonin' or 'genin'. And even the techniques. Ultra Big Ball Rasengan can wipe away a mountain, and if that ain't S-Rank, I don't know what is.

      Letter ranks are all about difficulty be they mission difficulty or technique acquisition i.e. learning difficulty (B-Rank is Jonin difficulty for reference). It's interesting as we haven't actually heard the ranking of shinobi, for instance Itachi was an S-Rank missing nin, in all of part 2. It would make sense that such a rating would be on what kind of mission it is to take them down, but any kind of enemy shinobi on a mission gets it a minimum of B-Rank under normal circumstances. But I doubt Naruto would rate that classification not because he isn't dangerous, but as that system was only ever applied to the Bingo book. Since Naruto isn't a Nukenin or other kind of criminal he wouldn't be referred to in that manner. And applying that ranking would be redundant in a lot of situations anyway. Most normal Jonin are around the same level, when they reach a power beyond that they usually become famous and get another epithet, like the Sannin for instance. This war of course did a number om power levels and rankings of course.

      Ultra Big Ball Rasengan isn't particularly more difficult than the Normal Rasengan you just add way more chakra. Compare it to Futon: Rasenshuriken which requires a third Kage Bunshin to use and factoring in the Kage Bunshin training method, twenty man-years worth of training.

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    • I feel that it's sort of lame (sorry, Stupid) that Karin, Ino and Sakura share the same chakra affinities/nature types -.-

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    • All I would like to point out that Kishi is randomly giving out natures. Yes they "apparently" have them but that doesn't mean they use it.

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    • Alright, I'm awake again. What did I miss? All translations, I assume? Are there even any names or so left for me? Or do we have all technique names and character names?

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    • Treasured Tools section doesn't seem to have anything we don't already know.

      Going back, I accidentally skipped Human Path's ability, even though I meant to translate it. It's an ability that allows the user to telepathically steal the thoughts of the victim. It says the Human Path (Nindo) holds the power of "ascension" (昇天), referring to the passing of the soul to a higher plane after death, and that it can pull out an individual's soul and drain their life energy. The power is based on the Human Path using his hand to guide a person's soul to heaven; in doing so he can also directly access their thoughts.

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    • Seelentau wrote: Alright, I'm awake again. What did I miss? All translations, I assume? Are there even any names or so left for me? Or do we have all technique names and character names?

      I've translated most of the techniques we didn't know much or anything about, but there's a whole bunch of minor jutsu starting on page 314 and I have no idea which already have names and which din't.

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    • Did you translate Konan's Kami no Shisha no Jutsu? I'd like to know your translation of the last line, that goes like "Furthermore, not only the ground can be camouflaged, transforming the water is also possible." or so. Would you propose another translation?

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    • Seelentau wrote: Did you translate Konan's Kami no Shisha no Jutsu? I'd like to know your translation of the last line, that goes like "Furthermore, not only the ground can be camouflaged, transforming the water is also possible." or so. Would you propose another translation?

      I didn't, just enough to clarify that it was the paper bomb ocean attack. It would probably make more sense to phrase it so it's clear that the explosive tags are being disguised as the ground/water, not the other way around.

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    • Okay, I'm going to dive into the characters section for a bit, just to try and figure out some character names we don't have. I already did some of the Kage and Nagato's parent's last night before going to sleep.

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    • Rachin123 wrote: All I would like to point out that Kishi is randomly giving out natures. Yes they "apparently" have them but that doesn't mean they use it.

      i think too

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    • Haven't seen a dissenting voice, so I will go ahead and start labeling all genjutsu with the Yin release thingy. May add the Yang release to Akamichi techs if it isn't already there.

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    • Go ahead. & It is.

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    • last question, should i leave ms based genjutsu alone? gonna go ahead and touch base sharingan genjutsu, but should i touch tsukiyomi and its thousand video game variants?

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    • All Genjutsu are Yin Release. They just are.

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    • Yes sir.

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    • Previous wielder of Zabuza's Executioner's Blade: Jūzō Biwa (枇杷十蔵). Fitting the existing naming theme, biwa is a type of produce, the loquat.

      It states that he and the others were actually the original Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist, not just a previous generation of them. The other two don't appear to be given names, unless they're recorded elsewhere.

      The Anbu ninja that Obito beat to death was named Kosuke (小助).

      Fukai's name in the databook is given as Blue B (ブルービー, Burū Bī). Like the Raikage being named A, the jinchuriki candidates are given the name B. The name "Fukai" is actually not mentioned.

      The Akimichi on page 208 are: Shitō (シトウ), Dōtō (ドウトウ), Torifu (トリフ), Makaro (マカロ), and Maruten (マルテン).

      The Aburame on page 208 are: Tatsuma (タツマ) and Muta (ムタ).

      The Inuzuka on 208 are: Gaku (ガク), Tsume (ツメ), and Hana (ハナ).

      Iruka's father is named Ikkaku (イッカク) and his mother is named Kohari (コハリ).

      Nara members on 210-211: Ensui (エンスイ), Kasuga (カスガ), Suzaku (スザク) (wha'dya know?), Daen (ダエン), and Maen (マエン).

      Hyuga members on 211: Iroha (イロハ), Kō (コウ), Tokuma (トクマ), Hoheto (ホヘト).

      Yamanaka member on 211: Santa (サンタ).

      The old leader of Uzushiogakure from the flashback with the Senju was named Ashina Uzumaki (うずまきアシナ). If I'm reading it correctly, it says he was the forefather of Konoha's sealing techniques.

      Sasuke's hawk summon is named Garuda (ガルダ).

      There are plenty of other names, but those stood out as being potentially interesting.

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    • "The Anbu ninja that Obito beat to death was named Kosuke (小助)."

      Of all the people to name... lol

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    • So what do we do for Hashirama, list him as a Yin Release user even though the databook didn't? I guess that's already what we're doing with Choji and Earth Release.

      @Suzaku Could you also give the name of the cat-masked Anbu captain?

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    • @Umishiru I was thinking that there was a Genjutsu: MS as it showed the possibility in at least three instances but I guess not. People either shut my idea down despite factual evidence. I'd got to say Kishi messed up again with those situations with Sasuke using genjutsu I'm talking about.

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    • BeyondRed wrote: So what do we do for Hashirama, list him as a Yin Release user even though the databook didn't? I guess that's already what we're doing with Choji and Earth Release.

      @Suzaku Could you also give the name of the cat-masked Anbu captain?

      Gazeru (ガゼル).

      You guys should start learning katakana. Even a basic katakana chart would be enough to figure out most of the names.

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    • And soon we're losing our jobs because they can read everything. :x

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    • So anime only characters who use genjutsu will also be listed as a user of yin release too right?

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    • Yep.

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    • Ah so the mist swordsman are a recent phenomenon. Moving on to characters now. will stop by later to get approval on certain canon characters/

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    • is naruto have creation of all things jutsu?

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    • yin release anime only should be added to http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Cat-Masked_Anbu_Member but for some reason i can not. Can someone do this for me?

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    • The section about the various fragments Kaguya left behind, which points out the Byakugan and the Kaguya clan's ability to turn their bones into a weapon, doesn't really give any clear explanation beyond saying that, yes, their bloodlines can be traced by to "Kaguya Otsutsuki, who ate the Divine Tree's fruit." Basically it says that in the present day, faint traces of her power are all over the ninja world, giving the Byakugan as an example. It mentions that some clans which were destroyed had traces of her blood as well. I can't read the Kaguya clan caption very well (seems to just say, "they seem to be connected to Kaguya, don't they!?"), but the Hyuga one basically says that the legacy of the Byakugan goes back a thousand years (to Kaguya).

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    • Umishiru wrote: yin release anime only should be added to http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Cat-Masked_Anbu_Member but for some reason i can not. Can someone do this for me?

      Done.

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    • what do the Jinchurikis pages say?

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    • I want to know what order you list the natures? Do it go basic, advanced then yin, yang and then yin-yang?

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    • Was the abilities of the past kages expanded on at all? I mean, about the Shodai Mizukage and the Sandaime as well. It would be pretty cool if they were from some clan like Kaguya or Yuki.

      What about the Kazekages? No info at all? I mean, how hard could it have been to provide at least some information on them?

      I had been hoping for much information on clans like Kaguya, Yuki, Hozuki and even the Senju. And how did they get extinct. What was their role in the clan wars? These things are interesting, not the fillers plus fillers that is abundant in the databook.

      What about Sakumo Hatake? Anything about him at all?

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    • I doubt all the clans you list are all dead. Kaguya clan was revealed long ago.

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    • Adding yin release to ma and pa on the count of their toad song gengjutsu.

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    • Jesus, you dont need to add a million messages saying the same thing, one is enough.

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    • Lol you beat me to some of them but you don't have to keep telling us what you're doing.

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    • Stop telling us what you're doing step by step please. It's not that important.

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    • @Umishiru I enjoy your hard work but please stop with the comments of what you keep adding. We'll see it on the page.

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    • sorry

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    • I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.

      I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".

      Sorry for any confusion.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: I need to make a minor (okay, somewhat major) correction on the Truthseeker Orbs thing.

      I accidentally translated the phrase shinra bansho as "creation of all things," but it actually means "all of creation" or "everything in the universe." It's not saying that they're using the ninjutsu "Creation of All Things" to manipulate/control the Truthseeker Orbs, but rather that they're using "the power of the universe".

      Sorry for any confusion.

      You just crushed my dreams. (cries in corner)

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    • Darn, guess I'll revert them.

      I can't decide if "the power of the universe" or "Creation of All Things" sounds cooler lol.

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    • is there anything on hashiramas sage mode

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    • TrueAlphaJ wrote: is there anything on hashiramas sage mode

      Yes, but I believe they are both taking a break/sleeping for now.

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    • well before I go myself, when one of the translators get back: Any new info on Ibiki?

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    • The tiny entry for Madara's Sage Art Storm Release says he's able to use it thanks to the "power of the Six Paths." It's listed as Senjutsu, not a Kekkei Genkai. I can't read the details on his Sage Art Yin Release attack.

      Kaguya's hair needle attack is actually a Kekkei Mora called Rabbit Hair Needle (兎毛針, Tokehari). I can't read the description due to it being on the crease.

      Roshi's Lava Release is listed as a Kekkei Genkai. "It's a technique of Four Tails' original Jinchuriki, Roshi." = 四尾の元人柱力・老紫の術だ。

      Naruto's Boil Release: Unrivaled Strength (沸遁・怪力無双) is not named "Sage Art: Boil Release Unrivaled Strength," and is listed as a kekkei genkai. It says he raises his chakra to the boiling point to instantly increase his strength with this Boil Release technique. With the help of Five Tails, Kokuo, he is able to dissolve the ice he's trapped in.

      I'm gonna go ahead and stop to post, because that seems to confirm that the those Biju-powered advanced natures are technically kekkei genkai, and the reason Naruto is listed as a kekkei genkai user. I'm also going to note that it specifies that it's accomplished with Kokuo's help.

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    • Now that's some awesome information.

      Sorry if I'm ignoring your requests, guys. I'm busy with requests over at the NF right now ^^'
      (Also, I'm dizzy because of my all nighter two nights ago, but well)

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    • @FF-Suzaku, thanks, it feels good to be right :)

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    • Okay so I'm gonna list Roshi as a KG user

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    • Huh. So to summarize:

      • Tailed beast advanced natures actually do count as kekkei genkai.
      • Despite Shukaku having Magnet Release, Gaara apparently doesn't?
      • Advanced natures granted by Six Paths (whatever that entails) don't count.
      • Madara's Rinne Sharingan doesn't count, nor does the regular Truth-Seeking Ball.
      • We still don't know what Hagoromo's kekkei mora is.

      Glad Kokuo was confirmed with Boil Release. I just hope something on Chomei is buried in there somewhere.

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    • BeyondRed wrote: Huh. So to summarize:

      • Tailed beast advanced natures actually do count as kekkei genkai.
      • Despite Shukaku having Magnet Release, Gaara apparently doesn't?
      • Advanced natures granted by Six Paths (whatever that entails) don't count.
      • Madara's Rinne Sharingan doesn't count, nor does the regular Truth-Seeking Ball.
      • We still don't know what Hagoromo's kekkei mora is.

      Glad Kokuo was confirmed with Boil Release. I just hope something on Chomei is buried in there somewhere.

      why madara's rinnegan doesn't count?

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    • @Ashzure coz he doesn't have characteristic, i think.

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    • Rage gtx wrote: @Ashzure coz he doesn't have characteristic, i think.

      Right. Only Kaguya and Hagoromo have kekkei mora, but apparently regular Truth-Seeking Balls aren't kekkei mora, so no idea what Hagoromo's is.

      Seems like a weird double standard though. Abilities granted by individual tailed beasts count as bloodline traits, but abilities granted by Ten-Tails/Six Paths Senjutsu don't count.

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    • Guys i deleted YYR from Danzo's infobox considering data book. Was it right thing to do?

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    • In the case of Six Paths Senjutsu advanced transformations, which are classified as Sage Arts, I suppose it's because it's not "genetic" on any level. Six Paths Sage Mode grants knowledge, not blood ability. That's the only way I can really make sense of it. The same is true for Madara's Ranton, which is a Sage Art and achieved through the Six Paths Ten Tails Coffin Seal, which is comparable to Naruto's Sage Mode.

      They probably corrected Sage Art: Boil Release to just Boil Release because Naruto was using the Tailed Beast's chakra, which has special properties, and thus makes it a Kekkei Genkai, not Senjutsu.

      Did I crack the code? Kind of?

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: They probably corrected Sage Art: Boil Release to just Boil Release because Naruto was using the Tailed Beast's chakra, which has special properties, and thus makes it a Kekkei Genkai, not Senjutsu.

      They corrected it? I never heard of SA:BR in the first place. Where did that come from? Oo

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    • Rage gtx wrote: Guys i deleted YYR from Danzo's infobox considering data book. Was it right thing to do?

      The databook only classifies Izanagi as a Kekkei Genkai Genjutsu and makes no mention of Yin-Yang Release, so probably.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: The Akimichi on page 208 are: Shitō (シトウ), Dōtō (ドウトウ), Makaro (マカロ), and Maruten (マルテン).

      The Aburame on page 208 are: Tatsuma (タツマ)

      The Inuzuka on 208 are: Gaku (ガク)

      Nara members on 210-211: Kasuga (カスガ), Suzaku (スザク) (wha'dya know?), Daen (ダエン), and Maen (マエン).

      Hyuga members on 211: Iroha (イロハ)

      I could track down some (or all?) of these in the deletion logs and restore them if someone could point me to an image link of these pages so I know which is which.

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    • BeyondRed wrote:

      Rage gtx wrote: @Ashzure coz he doesn't have characteristic, i think.

      Right. Only Kaguya and Hagoromo have kekkei mora, but apparently regular Truth-Seeking Balls aren't kekkei mora, so no idea what Hagoromo's is.

      Seems like a weird double standard though. Abilities granted by individual tailed beasts count as bloodline traits, but abilities granted by Ten-Tails/Six Paths Senjutsu don't count.

      ok;but what's name of madara's third eye?

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    • Can someone change the technique "Boil Release Steam" to Boil Release: Unrivaled Strength. I can't do it. I seen the redirect though but still

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote:

      Rage gtx wrote: Guys i deleted YYR from Danzo's infobox considering data book. Was it right thing to do?

      The databook only classifies Izanagi as a Kekkei Genkai Genjutsu and makes no mention of Yin-Yang Release, so probably.

      Obito certainly made it sound like Yin-Yang Release, but then he also explicitly said Senju DNA was required, which has since proven false. If that's really the case, the only confirmed Yin-Yang users are Truth-Seeking Ball users. Nagato should be removed, not sure why he had it listed in the first place.

      @Ashzure It's still a Rinne Sharingan, most likely. His just isn't considered a kekkei mora, for some odd reason.

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    • Ashzure wrote: ok;but what's name of madara's third eye?

      Rinne Sharingan. Just don't count it as a Kekkei Mora like Kaguya's.

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    • JOA20 wrote:

      Ashzure wrote: ok;but what's name of madara's third eye?

      Rinne Sharingan. Just don't count it as a Kekkei Mora like Kaguya's.

      but why?

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    • Seelentau wrote:

      FF-Suzaku wrote: They probably corrected Sage Art: Boil Release to just Boil Release because Naruto was using the Tailed Beast's chakra, which has special properties, and thus makes it a Kekkei Genkai, not Senjutsu.

      They corrected it? I never heard of SA:BR in the first place. Where did that come from? Oo

      Sorry, Sage Art: Boil Release Unrivaled Strength was just a fanon name.

      It was when Kokuo increased the temperature of Naruto's chakra to help Naruto break free of Kaguya's ice trap in #684. There was some debate of whether it was an actual technique, or if Kokuo was just saying "I'll give you unrivaled strength."

      Turns out it was a technique, Boil Release: Unrivaled Strength, and it's listed as a Kekkei Genkai.

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    • I don't have permission to change the jutsu on Kokuo's infobox "Boil Release Steam" to BR: Unrivaled Strength. Is that for sysops to do or something.

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    • Ashzure wrote:

      JOA20 wrote:

      Ashzure wrote: ok;but what's name of madara's third eye?

      Rinne Sharingan. Just don't count it as a Kekkei Mora like Kaguya's.

      but why?

      Madara isn't listed as a Kekkei Mora user in his profile, even though he uses two techniques that are specifically classified as Kekkei Mora (Infinite Tsukuyomi and Divine: Deep Forest Emergence). He shares both with Kaguya.

      Literally all of Kaguya's techniques are Kekkei Mora, from her three eyes, to her hair, to her bones, and even to the vacuum bursts of air she creates with her palms. Which means that Kekkei Mora probably is less about natures and more about the power Kaguya got from the Divine Tree's fruit.

      It might be that Madara's Rinne Sharingan is merely a Kekkei Genkai fragment of her original Kekkei Mora, same as with the Kaguya's clan's Maccabre Bone Pulse.

      Or it might just be an oversight. We really don't know, and it doesn't help that I couldn't seem to find any actual definition for Kekkei Mora or Kekkei Tota in the book.

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    • You said her three eyes. So her Byakugan is also a kekkei mora?

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    • BeyondRed wrote: You said her three eyes. So her Byakugan is also a kekkei mora?

      Well, it doesn't actually say that. Byakugan, Rinnegan, etc., don't have specific entries or classifications, we simply have to discern their properties from the techniques they're used in.

      Given that all of her abilities are described as Kekkei Mora, though, I wouldn't be surprised if her Byakugan were special in some way that makes the Hyuga's Byakugan inferior (or "just a fragment."

      Or, hell, maybe her entire body is the Kekkei Mora. I don't know.

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    • so Kaguya is only person who use kekkei mora?

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    • @Ashzure, Hagoromo too and maybe Hamura.

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    • why? if FF-SuZaku is said to be true then only Kaguya is only the kekkei mora user

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    • Hagoromo does, and probably Hamura (he doesn't have that infobox).

      After that generation, her powers presumably became too dispersed/fragmented in the bloodlines to be considered Kekkei Mora.

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    • but madara gain the same power as hamogoro when he became 10 tails jinchuriki

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    • We also have to consider the possibility that Madara not having Kekkei Mora may just be an oversight, like Danzo not having Summoning listed in his traits.

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    • @BeyondRed, very much possible. gosh if Kishi had sbs like Oda. :(

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    • yeah, because hagomoro said that madara is getting close to him; in that state madara has only one eye who used.

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Hagoromo does, and probably Hamura (he doesn't have that infobox).

      After that generation, her powers presumably became too dispersed/fragmented in the bloodlines to be considered Kekkei Mora.

      Please, does that translation of roshi's lava release mean that only he personally has it as a "kekkai genkai" or does anyone who's goku's jinchuuriki?

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    • If I see correctly, Fu's Hidenjutsu doesn't say anything about it coming from her Biju, the Seven-Tails. Her and the Bijus article don't mention any relation, either.

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    • @Seel, so Naruto has KKG characteristic because of his Biju or some other thing came out?

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    • Yes, he has no Kekkei Genkai on his own. He's only able to utilize those advanced natures through the Tailed Beasts.

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    • Seelentau wrote: Yes, he has no Kekkei Genkai on his own. He's only able to utilize those advanced natures through the Tailed Beasts.

      I know that. ;) You were very persuasive on our last discussion. I mean now he has KKG characteristic - so that means he can have them as KKG in his infobox, right?

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    • I don't think so, but others may disagree. I think the infobox is shit, in this case. Its Kekkei Genkai section should only be used if the character has the genetical anomaly, because in the end, that's were the dojutsu and chakra nature Kekkei Genkai are rooted in. If someone only has the Dojutsu/Chakra nature that results from the Kekkei Genkai, he should have them listed in the Dojutsu/Chakra natures section, but not in the Kekkei Genkai section.

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    • @Seelentau, ok thank you i understood your personal opinion.

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    • What's yours?

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    • I don't want to look up the kanji or hiragana, so if someone could please provide the names for Kirigakure Elder (p 207), Unnamed Tadpole (p 209), Kurenai's Father (p 211).

      And actually, if someone would be willing to go through those miscellaneous characters and just provide all their names (like this) then I or someone else would make the actual articles.

      For those who do provide the names, if you could also provide the Japanese so I don't need to sift through a dictionary to copy-and-paste the characters into the infobox only to then discover I copied a character that only looks like the one I wanted but is slightly tilted and is therefore a different character. thanxoxo

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    • I one who disagree. While semantically i understand your position. I think they must be stated in infobox, main reason comes from my essential understanding of - KKG something that one can do while other's are not. So while any shinobi theoretically can learn Rasengan, they cannot do same with KKG based jutsu. If it stated only in nature section it may very easy mislead folk's unfamiliar with subject into: that anyone can learn this or nature Naruto uses aren't same with nature that stated as KKG and so on.

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    • 元帥 Genji (the word would normally be read as Gensui, it means Army General. 90 yo.)

      ガマたま Gamatama (Age unknown)

      Yuuhi 真紅 Yuuhi Shinku (45 yo, Jonin, Shinku means deep crimson)

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    • ⇧ 深い忍術研究と知識、卓越した才能�� �三代目風影の磁遁忍術を習得する。 With profound research and knowledge of ninjutsu and with exceptional talent, he learnt the Third Kazekage's Jiton Ninjutsu.

      What the hell? LEARNED?

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    • Who?

      Ah, Yondi. Yes, it says so.

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    • Do we know what Chomei does yet?

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    • Chomei gives wings.

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    • Suzakun, could you give me your wording of the text below the Yotsuki dude on page 17? I can't decide if the clan got the land from the Raikage or the other way around.

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    • Rage gtx wrote: I one who disagree. While semantically i understand your position. I think they must be stated in infobox, main reason comes from my essential understanding of - KKG something that one can do while other's are not. So while any shinobi theoretically can learn Rasengan, they cannot do same with KKG based jutsu. If it stated only in nature section it may very easy mislead folk's unfamiliar with subject into: that anyone can learn this or nature Naruto uses aren't same with nature that stated as KKG and so on.

      Thats the best definition of kekkei's.

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    • Has any thought this? can a sharingan user copy naruto when using lava release?

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    • No it's not and no, he can not.

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    • Seelentau wrote: No it's not and no, he can not.

      ok. Just one question, what do we do bout the term "tailed beast skill"?

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    • Remove it. It was used to describe the abilities someone gets from a tailed beast, but apparently, those are kekkei genkai, so it's not needed anymore. It was a fan term anyway.

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    • Seelentau wrote: Remove it. It was used to describe the abilities someone gets from a tailed beast, but apparently, those are kekkei genkai, so it's not needed anymore. It was a fan term anyway.

      Thanks

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    • Seelentau wrote: Chomei gives wings.

      That's it? So Chomei's contribution to the Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken will forever be a mystery?

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    • Seelentau wrote: Chomei gives wings.

      now we know where red bull comes from...

      anyone know anything about sasuke's unique rinnegan...

      also...what exactly is kekkei mora...I'm confused...

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    • pages 314-315

      Iron Claw (アイアンクロー, Aian Kurō), Taijutsu
      Red Secret Technique: Machinery Triangles (赤秘技・機々三角, Akahigi: Kiki Sankaku), Ninjutsu
      String Light Formation (一糸灯陣, Isshi Tōjin), Ninjutsu
      Rock Clone Technique (岩分身の術, Iwa Bunshin no Jutsu), Ninjutsu
      Elbow (重流暴, Erubō, Heavy-Style Outburst), Taijutsu
      Evil Releasing Method (解邪法印, Kaija Hōin), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu
      Tail Releasing Method (解尾法印, Kaibi Hōin), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu
      Flower–Fruit Mountain (花果山, Kakazan), Taijutsu
      Shadow Stroke (影撫で, Kagenade), Taijutsu
      Shadow Imitation Shadow Bind Technique (影真似影縛りの術, Kagemane Kage Shibari no Jutsu), Ninjutsu, Hiden
      Fang Rotating Fang (牙転牙, Gatenga), Taijutsu, Hiden
      Fire Release: Exploding Flame Formation (火遁・起爆炎陣, Katon: Kibaku Enjin), Ninjutsu

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    • @Seel, what has data book about negative emotions sensing?

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    • @seel also, do they name naruto & co flight ability?

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    • page 316-317

      Fire Release: Great Flame Technique (火遁・豪炎の術, Katon: Gōen no Jutsu), Ninjutsu
      Fire Release: Great Fire Destruction (火遁・豪火滅失, Katon: Gōka Messhitsu), Ninjutsu
      Fire Release: Hiding in Ash and Dust Technique (火遁・灰塵隠れの術, Katon: Haijingakure no Jutsu), Ninjutsu
      Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique (火遁・龍炎放歌の術, Katon: Ryūen Hōka no Jutsu), Ninjutsu
      Kamui Lightning Cutter (神威雷切, Kamui Raikiri), Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai
      Sensing Barrier (感知結界, Kanchi Kekkai), Ninjutsu
      Sensing Water Ball (感知水球, Kanchi Suikyū), Ninjutsu
      Reverse Summoning Technique (逆口寄せの術 , Gyaku Kuchiyose no Jutsu),
      Guillotine Drop (義雷沈怒雷斧, Girochin Doroppu, Righteous Lightning Sinking Anger Lightning Axe), Taijutsu
      Forbidden Individual Curse Tag (禁個呪の札, Kinkoju no Fuda), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu
      Cloud-Style Reverse Beheading (雲流裏斬り, Kumo-Ryū Uragiri), Taijutsu
      Cloud-Style Front Beheading (雲流表斬り, Kumo-Ryū Omotegiri), Taijutsu
      Cloud-Style Flame Beheading (雲流火炎斬り, Kumo-Ryū Kaengiri), Ninjutsu
      Cloud-Style Crescent Moon Beheading (雲流三日月斬り, Kumo-Ryū Mikazukigiri), Taijutsu
      Black Secret Technique: Salamander (黒秘技・山椒魚, Kurohigi: Sanshōuo), Ninjutsu
      Contract Seal (契約封印, Keiyaku Fūin), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu

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    • FF-Suzaku wrote: Kaguya's Expansive Truthseeker Orb (膨張求道玉, Bōchō Gudōdama) is listed as a Kekkei Mora ninjutsu. It says that she used the Divine Tree to absorb chakra from all of the shinobi and create a maximized (極大化) Truthseeker Orb. The equivalent (同じ物だが, same/identical/similar) black orbs that appear behind Naruto's back when using Six Paths Sage Mode can't be compared to its dimensions. Comprised of all five elements and yin-yang, it had the power to oblitrate the world and return it to nothing. Caption: Comprised of all chakra natures, a vast, expanding mass is filled to the brim. Created to reshape the world, it was a huge mass of chaos.

      Planet level Kaguya confirmed

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    • What do Tenten's and Ino's translations say? ;-;

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    • pages 318-319

      Violent — Leaf Adamantine-Strength Whirlwind (激 木ノ葉金剛力旋風, Geki — Konoha Kongōriki Senpū), Taijutsu
      Barrier Talisman: Armoured Eye (結界符・眼装甲, Kekkaifu: Gansōkō), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu
      Genjutsu: Sharingan (幻術・写輪眼, Genjutsu: Sharingan), Genjutsu, Kekkei Genkai
      Leaf Rock-Destroying Rise (木ノ葉壊岩升, Konoha Kaiganshō), Taijutsu
      Leaf Coiling Whirlwind (木ノ葉つむじ旋風, Konoha Tsumuji Senpū), Taijutsu
      Psycho Mind Transmission (催戸伝心, Saiko Denshin, Holding Door Mind Transmission), Ninjutsu, Hiden
      Self-Repairing Barrier (再生結界, Saisei Kekkai), Ninjutsu
      Rebirth Absorption (再胞吸引, Saibō Kyūin), Ninjutsu (not sure about the translation and romaji)
      Rebirth Ejection (再胞排出, Saibō Haishutsu), Ninjutsu (not sure about the translation and romaji)
      Desert Wave (砂漠波, Sabakuha), Ninjutsu
      Desert: Hand (砂漠・叛奴, Desert: Hando, Desert: Rebellion Slave), Ninjutsu
      Coral Palm (珊瑚掌, Sangoshō), Taijutsu
      No idea how to word it (自業呪縛の印, Jigō Jubaku no In), Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu
      Conserving Bee Twin Blades (省蜂の双刃, Jakuhō no Sōjin), Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai
      Scorch Release: Extremely Steaming Murder (灼遁・過蒸殺, Shakuton: Kajōsatsu), Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai
      Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body (柔拳法一撃身, Jūkenpō Ichigekishin), Taijutsu, Hiden

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    • Question Seel, are any other of the Tailed Beasts confirmed to have advanced natures?

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    • While you are translating the Databook, can you take a look at this?!

      http://i.imgur.com/LqTaMXJ.jpg

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    • Actually 再胞 (Saibō) translates as Cell/s (of a body). That Would be Cellular Absorption (再胞吸引, Saibō Kyūin) and Cellular Ejection (再胞排出, Saibō Haishutsu). Now I have questions to Suzaku-sama and Seelen-sama; Should we create article for Kaguya's Kekkei Mora Hair Needle attack ? and what about Shikotsumyaku ? Kaguya's Tomogoroshi no Haikotsu attack is listed as Kekkei Mora, so should we label a Shikotsumyaku as Kekkei Mora or just hers Shikotsumyaku is Kekkei Mora ? about Blood limits etc... I mean like for Kekkei Genkai, person has a mutation in their body that enables him/her to use specific abilities (ex. Sharingan, Byakugan) or to simultaneously mix and use 2 chakra natures (ex. Ranton and Shakuton etc.). Superior form of Kekkei Genkai - Kekkei Tota is simultaneously mixing and using 3 chakra natures at one, making it probably (in my thoughts) a Elemental Kekkei Genkai + one more chakra nature, thus making it superior. I think that Kekkei Mora mechanism would be very different if not completely different of those of Kekkei Genkai and Kekkei Tota.

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    • A new story buds in the leaf
      Spring 2015
      "Naruto" (Temporary)
      Short term concentrated serialization
      Determination!!
      Details in future Jump Comics!! A "Naruto" spin-off short story serialized in JUMP j BOOKS!!
      The first is "Legend of Kakashi"!!

      And it's created by the one that did the Dokonjo Ninden, Jinraiden and Blood Prison novel.

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    • Seelentau wrote: A new story buds in the leaf
      Spring 2015
      "Naruto" (Temporary)
      Short term concentrated serialization
      Determination!!
      Details in future Jump Comics!! A "Naruto" spin-off short story serialized in JUMP j BOOKS!!
      The first is "Legend of Kakashi"!!

      And it's created by the one that did the Dokonjo Ninden, Jinraiden and Blood Prison novel.

      With this Kishi is probably continuing the story through novels, which is set after the film.

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    • No, it would not. The Kanji for cell is 細胞, it's a wordplay. As for your questions:

      1. Already done.
      2. No, just hers.
      3. Kekkei Tota aren't hereditary.
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    • So Naruto is ending...

      For more Naruto to start....

      Oh godsdamnit.

      In other news, Raiga Kurosuki, or rather the last guy to own the swords Kiba. In the databook?

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    • So our work never ends. Bring it on! :)

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    • Nope, TU3.

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    • Seelentau wrote: Nope, TU3.

      Well of course that would be to easy.

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    • Alright, these threads are starting to get unmanageable. If you have a question about the databook, please make a new thread and it will be answered by someone.

      This will make it easier to answer individual queries instead of a large thread like this. Thanks!

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