Munchvtec wrote: Mifune knew Hanzo and was known for fighting by not allowing his enemies to weave signs. For christs sake, tenten killed a kakuzu mask. Either Hanzo or i have no clue who'd win. In my mind, maybe hanzo is amazing or something :p you guys downplay him because y'all like Kakuzu. Even in the fourth war Izumo and kotetsu caught him off guard. He was equal to Kakashi in taijutsu as seen in the anime. A bunch of chunin and tokubetsu jonin had him roughed up. Kakashi also never used mangekyo, which if he did...... hahaha. Also, hanzo and mifune barely even fought....hanzo essentially let him win or to be honest.....beat himself. :p
first of all in the war arc the Akatsuki were heavily nerfed. (Except for Nagato, Itachi and Tobi.) Kakuzu overwhelmed Kakashi in taijutsu. Tenten only managed to destroy that mask via one of the treasured tools of the sage of six paths without it she wouldn't have done anything.
Hanzo only overwhelmed the Sannin becuase none of them were in their prime or strongest forms. Jiraiya would've wrecked Hanzo in sage mode, Tsunade would've put up more of a fight should she have her strength of a hundred seal and Orochimaru hadn't started enhancing himself via experimentation.
Kakuzu wins this.
Uchiahmasters wrote: first of all in the war arc the Akatsuki were heavily nerfed.
Edo Tensei can't fully restore people's strength. And one can even wonder to which degree they really cared about the fight at all.
Uchiahmasters wrote: Kakuzu wins this.
There's an interesting question in that, can kakuzu survive the poison?
^^^ I do think that because of Kakuzu's unique body structure he could be immune to poison, even if he's not it's not like Hanzo is going to be able to pierce through Kakuzu's skin once he hardens it through earth style.
Kakuzu. Earth Grudge Fear gives him a wide range of Jutsu since he can use all five basic nature transformations while Hanzo only has Fire Release and his signature poison. Think about it like this: in terms of special weapons Kakuzu has the advantage 5/2
Of course this cannot be the only reason why Kakuzu would win in this fight but I just thought I would provide some food for thought.
Munchvtec wrote: Mifune knew Hanzo and was known for fighting by not allowing his enemies to weave signs. For christs sake, tenten killed a kakuzu mask. Either Hanzo or i have no clue who'd win. In my mind, maybe hanzo is amazing or something :p you guys downplay him because y'all like Kakuzu. Even in the fourth war Izumo and kotetsu caught him off guard. He was equal to Kakashi in taijutsu as seen in the anime. A bunch of chunin and tokubetsu jonin had him roughed up. Kakashi also never used mangekyo, which if he did...... hahaha. Also, hanzo and mifune barely even fought....hanzo essentially let him win or to be honest.....beat himself. :p
No Kakuzu was far beyond Kakashi`s level what makes you think he was equal to Kakashi? Kakshi was getting his butt handed to him and if it wasn`t for Shikamaru and the others he would be dead his heart was just about to be torn out a bit into that fight Kakshi dominated him big time. As for Izumo and Kotestu the reason they had Kakuzu there is because they already knew all his techniques from their last encounter and had intel on him so of course they won easily and none of the edo akastuki were at their full power except Itachi and Nagato. Kakuzu didn`t have any of the hearts he had before he died and Sasori didn`t have his puppet body etc.
So if Hanzo fought Kakuzu the battle is heavily in Kakuzu`s favor Hanzo stands now chance.
Naglfar94 wrote:
Munchvtec wrote: Mifune knew Hanzo and was known for fighting by not allowing his enemies to weave signs. For christs sake, tenten killed a kakuzu mask. Either Hanzo or i have no clue who'd win. In my mind, maybe hanzo is amazing or something :p you guys downplay him because y'all like Kakuzu. Even in the fourth war Izumo and kotetsu caught him off guard. He was equal to Kakashi in taijutsu as seen in the anime. A bunch of chunin and tokubetsu jonin had him roughed up. Kakashi also never used mangekyo, which if he did...... hahaha. Also, hanzo and mifune barely even fought....hanzo essentially let him win or to be honest.....beat himself. :p
No Kakuzu was far beyond Kakashi`s level what makes you think he was equal to Kakashi? Kakshi was getting his butt handed to him and if it wasn`t for Shikamaru and the others he would be dead his heart was just about to be torn out a bit into that fight Kakshi dominated him big time. As for Izumo and Kotestu the reason they had Kakuzu there is because they already knew all his techniques from their last encounter and had intel on him so of course they won easily and none of the edo akastuki were at their full power except Itachi and Nagato. Kakuzu didn`t have any of the hearts he had before he died and Sasori didn`t have his puppet body etc.
So if Hanzo fought Kakuzu the battle is heavily in Kakuzu`s favor Hanzo stands now chance.
What do you mean when you say that Itachi and Nagato were at their full power?
of all the Akatsuki in the war Kakuzu was treated the worst, he was nerfed the most, defeated off screen. I feel Kakuzu should have had a bigger part in the war as the fourth strongest Akatsuki IMO he should have wrecked his opponents which just so happened to be a group of fodder, Darui, more fodder, Ino-Shika-Cho and even more fodder. he at least should have been moved to a more relevant area so that we could get some more badassery from Kakuzu.
Tengen Toppa Ita-Sasuke wrote:
What do you mean when you say that Itachi and Nagato were at their full power?
what I mean by that is the edo tensei jutsu was actually an upgrade to nagato and Itachi despite the common knowledge that those revived are not at their full in edo mode. It was actually a help to them as Itachi did not have his illness holding him down anymore so he could fight 100% and Nagato had his body restored (partially) as his legs didn`t recover 100% from the damage from Hanzo but they were restored enough for Nagato to completely blitz Killer Bee and Naruto and nearly kill them both at the same time something living Nagato as he was relying on that spider like thingy he was in to walk around in and using the Pains to fought for him could not ever do due to leg damage. And a living Itachi would not be able to spam Susanoo as if he has EMS if he was still alive due to his illness lowering his stamina.
Kakuzu however was revived without any of the original hearts he had so he didn`t have all the justu he used to have just pretty much only the earth grudge fear was left. And his foes already knew his abilities after fighting him before+Edo Tensei lowering his full power.Hanzo is tied with Hiruzen with the characters that received nonsense hype but always looked like shit , At least Hanzo has a a feat though.