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  • In the episode Asura's decision , his wind release looks very similar to a rasengan, maybe he's the real creator of the rasengan instead of minato
    Asura's Wind Release
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    • Even if Asura did invent the rasengan first, Minato would still be a real creator of the rasengan.

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    • Also, it's anime-only filler, so it hardly proves anything.

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    • I don't think that counted as Wind Release: Rasengan, since it wasn't really a perfect compressed sphere, but a round unstable mass of wind release chakra. So you could say in this filler, Asura used a proto/pseudo/imperfect Wind Release: Rasengan.

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    • In addition to what everyone else has said, I want to add that the Rasengan was explicitly stated to be based off of the Tailed Beast Ball, which automatically makes it structurally and functionally different from whatever Wind Release technique Asura was using in this episode. It looks like a Rasengan, but it's not.

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    • Just like Chidori/Raikiri are similar to whatever technique 3rd Raikage used. As our friend NeedleJizo has stated, the conception of the Rasengan came to be when Minato observed a Tailed Beast Ball. On top of that, the Rasengan was said to be the highest level of shape transformation, while Asura's Wind Rasengan-like orb clearly isn't well shaped or stable.

      But sure... for all intends and purposes, Asura used a prototype 'Rasengan' but not really an actual one.

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    • We don't actually know for sure that Minato created the rasengan based on the Tailed Beast Ball, that was just Killer B's theory.

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    • Tasuxeda wrote: We don't actually know for sure that Minato created the rasengan based on the Tailed Beast Ball, that was just Killer B's theory.

      When Naruto tries to form a rasengan it automatically became a Bijudama. No more proof is needed.

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    • Thekillman wrote: When Naruto tries to form a rasengan it automatically became a Bijudama. No more proof is needed.

      All that proves is that Rasengan and Bijudama work in similar ways, it doesn't prove that Minato saw a Bijudama and was inspired to create the rasengan.

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    • Pretty sure the databook mentioned Minato being inspired by the TBB to make the Rasengan in less uncertain terms.

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    • Omnibender wrote: Pretty sure the databook mentioned Minato being inspired by the TBB to make the Rasengan in less uncertain terms.

      I didn't know that it was in the databook so I guess was wrong about it just being Killer B's theory.

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    • just look at it this way. Chidori looks similar its actually some what spherical. when ashura used his wind release technique it actually just looks like visible chakra it doesn't really look like rasengan it looks more like a chidori without the chi chi chi sound

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    • Tasuxeda wrote: We don't actually know for sure that Minato created the rasengan based on the Tailed Beast Ball, that was just Killer B's theory.


      You are right, first time i see someone say the same what i think.

      Which is your favorite character from naruto?

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    • Kiiro94 wrote:

      Tasuxeda wrote: We don't actually know for sure that Minato created the rasengan based on the Tailed Beast Ball, that was just Killer B's theory.

      You are right, first time i see someone say the same what i think.

      Which is your favorite character from naruto?

      This isn't the place for that. If you want to have a one-on-one discussion, take it to the chat or to your talkpages.

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Tasuxeda wrote: We don't actually know for sure that Minato created the rasengan based on the Tailed Beast Ball, that was just Killer B's theory.

      When Naruto tries to form a rasengan it automatically became a Bijudama. No more proof is needed.

      It became a Bijudama because he was trying to do it with pure Tailed Beast chakra instead of his own human chakra. The structure of the two jutsus are basically the same, with the difference that the Rasengan spins, and that´s what makes it stable enough to use by humans, and that it doesn´t need the precise 8:2 chakra ratio. Naruto´s Biju Rasengan is the result of the structural similarities of both techniques, with the added difficulty of stabilizing the 8:2 ratio. My point is that they are similar, but they doesn´t need to be related. It´s like comparing the 3rd Raikage´s Hell Stab with the Chidori/Raikiri. They are similar, but they aren´t necessarily inspired by one another

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    • ^ Like Omnibender said, the databook says that Minato was inspired by TBB to create Rasengan.

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    • JouXIII wrote: ^ Like Omnibender said, the databook says that Minato was inspired by TBB to create Rasengan.

      Put the scan.

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    • ^ Also, in the Rasengan section, literally the first thing it says is 四代目火影が '尾獣玉' にヒントを得て (Yondaime Hokage ga 'Bijūdama' ni hinto wo ete), basically meaning "Fourth Hokage, by getting hint from 'Tailed Beast Ball'".

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    • It pains me that you're not using hepburn, Jou.

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    • ^ Ah, sorry about that, I was a bit busy when writing my reply. Added "ū".

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    • na, I meant the "wo"^^

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