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    How would you rate Episode 472?
     
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    The poll was created at 10:55 on August 18, 2016, and so far 110 people voted.

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    • I literally had to skip through the episode to get back to the fight, which was near at the halfway point. Couldn't believe I survived a combo of flashback-no-jutsu and filleryomi (the exyra bit of Obito as Hokage). The only good thing about this episode was Naruto blitzing up to Kaguya and slicing her arm off

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    • what the heck was with Naruto's hand when he speed blitzed to kaguya and sliced her hand off? it was blue and it resembled tenseigan chakra mode

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    • Actionmanrandell wrote: what the heck was with Naruto's hand when he speed blitzed to kaguya and sliced her hand off? it was blue and it resembled tenseigan chakra mode

      I guess it was supposed to be one of the Tailed Beasts' abilities, but I'm not sure which one exactly.

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    • "A shinobi's life is not measured by how they live but rather it's measured by what they acomplish before their death". Jiraiya's words are pretty fitting for Obito.

      I found the flashbacks fitting for such an influential character to the series. My only complaint was when they started to show the downfall of the jinchūriki and i began getting hyped to finally find out who captured Han and then ಠ_ಠ

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    • Sarutobii2 wrote: "A shinobi's life is not measured by how they live but rather it's measured by what they acomplish before their death". Jiraiya's words are pretty fitting for Obito.

      I found the flashbacks fitting for such an influential character to the series. My only complaint was when they started to show the downfall of the jinchūriki and i began getting hyped to finally find out who captured Han and then ಠ_ಠ

      Totally agreed with you, though I wasn't too hyped about who captured Han lol.

      Pacing is great and the flashback was definitely needed, given that Obito has, for the most part, been an important figure for much of the series.

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    • Finally, next episode we will know Chomei attack in Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken. XD

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    • Pour a 40 for the homie Obito. I'm glad that we spend most of the episode flashing back to his life. He deserved it.

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    • I stuck around for all the flashbacks. They fit well with the episode (unlike the previous one). While it could just be cheap animation, Obito instantly falling apart in the end gave the impression that Obito held back as much as he could just to give Naruto that one message.

      I only wish that Rin explained her extreme childlike optimism towards Obito. I guess people just don't change after death.

      Also they totally spoiled the big surprise for the anime fans. Well, half of it.

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    • Keep skipping flashbacks. That's the key. Skip.

      But yeah, the new parts were alright. I liked Naruto's "Yeah" after Obito told him to become the very best, and I also liked BZ as an ass. The preview for the next episode takes it way too far though.

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    • Ajr1218 wrote: Also they totally spoiled the big surprise for the anime fans. Well, half of it.

      Yeah, it's something Studio shouldn't spoil in the preview.

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    • episode showed me again why i didnt like naruto as char at the end of the manga and why i thought obito was sh*tty beyond redemption...sigh, stretch stretch stretch, seriously, so many mangas and animes dont get a second season but naruto keeps getting produced despite this whole cr*p??

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    • I hate fillers and flashbacks. 'Nuff said.

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    • who doesnt?

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    • GreatestSin wrote: who doesnt?

      You'd be surprised.

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    • Despite the annoyance of the filler to stretch out the episode, at least it will be a few weeks before the final battle of Naruto vs. Sasuke begins (in three weeks).

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    • Almost the whole episode have gone only for things we already saw. The only good thing with the episode was that Obito, the uselees, the annoying, the terrible character finlly died and that Naruto blitzed Kaguya's arm.

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    • NeedleJizo wrote: Pour a 40 for the homie Obito. I'm glad that we spend most of the episode flashing back to his life. He deserved it.

      I get what they tried to aim at, but they spend the first half flashing back on his many mistakes. After that, words like "Obito's the coolest guy because he wanted to become hokage" and "you tried" sound extremely hollow.

      Obito's right. He's trash. A special place in hell is reserved for all the pain and hate he caused. It would be a lot more understandable if there was more focus on the fact that he had a curse seal on him and half a zetsu (and thus raising the legitimate question of how much he was really himself and in control). But that is never done, at least not in any clear and explicit way.

      So yea, it feels extremely forced that naruto cries over a guy who went to his limit to break and kill him, and the message the episode sends about Obito trying to be good is extremely weak in the face of the first half explicitly showing him to be a remorseless murder asshole.

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    • ^Not that you're wrong, but this is anime.

      Anyway, I really liked this one and I must say the musical choices they chose for the flashback scenes as well as Obito's last words were brilliant.

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    • Minamoto15 wrote: ^Not that you're wrong, but this is anime.

      I understand, but i think it would've been better if it had completely omitted the first half showing him to be the epitome of evil. There's not a hint that he had remorse or doubts about what he did. Then the second half of the episode tries it's utmost best to show him to be a misguided bad guy, which goes completely against the fist half.

      It would simply work so much better if the episode didn't put so much emphasis on the fact that he was completely evil.

      As BZ put it so nicely "that trash has finally died".

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    • @Thekillman Holy sh!t, dude xD. But nonetheless, I agree with you (though I didn't watch any of the flashbacks)

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    • Why didn't Obito use Izanagi to escape death? Only reason i can think of is he didn't have enough chakra to cast it.

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    • Shrek4chan wrote: Why didn't Obito use Izanagi to escape death? Only reason i can think of is he didn't have enough chakra to cast it.

      It was either Kamui or Izanagi. He couldn't do both.

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    • NeedleJizo wrote: It was either Kamui or Izanagi. He couldn't do both.

      Was it ever establish Izanagi doesn't allow a user to use another dojutsu at the same time? Because using 2 eye techniques is possible from what we've seen (Sasuke using Genjutsu: Sharingan and Susanoo simultaneously).

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    • ^nope, and it is convenient that obito had to little chakra for the exact jutsu that could have saved his life, but either way, i guess kishi simply needed to a way to kill him,

      a bigger question is: how are kakashi and obito able to run in such a strong gravity field?

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    • ^That's what I meant. It's not about whether or not Obito could dual wield dojutsu; he only had enough chakra for one or the other.

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    • NeedleJizo wrote: ^That's what I meant. It's not about whether or not Obito could dual wield dojutsu; he only had enough chakra for one or the other.

      It wasn't even about chakra. Obito can only focus on a single object . Obito can't look in two directions at once, otherwise he'd have stereoscopic vision.

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    • Why didn't Obito make himself intangible?

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    • Elveonora wrote: Why didn't Obito make himself intangible?

      Emm... probably because the bone would phase through him and hit Naruto instead? I thought that not allowing to hit him is the entire point of Obito standing in the way of attack.

      Also, Obito can't make himself intangible and teleport objects with Kamui at the same time. So in this case he wouldn't be able to save Kakashi from the bone aimed at him as well.

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    • @Elveonora Maybe because that would have allowed All-Killing Ash Bone to reach Naruto, killing him and basically doom everyone?

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    • Elveonora wrote: Why didn't Obito make himself intangible?

      Because the All-Killing Ash Bone would have phased right through him and hit Naruto.

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    • 'Naruto would have died' ... So?

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    • Elveonora wrote: 'Naruto would have died' ... So?

      C'mon, stop trolling please, it's not even laughable. I'm sure you perfectly realise the enormous amount of reasons for Naruto not to die, starting from him being the main protagonist of the series with his own name as a title, and ending with him wielding one of the keys (namely, Six Paths Yang Power) to the seal crucial for defeating Kaguya, the boss villain.

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    • Entertain us both then. It was obviously just a little silliness, if that's even allowed here.

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    • Okay, if that's the reason, the case is settled.

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    • Elveonora wrote: 'Naruto would have died' ... So?

      Actually they should have done Kamui on Kaguya herself before shoting the Ash Bones. Or simply creating a big portal that could teleport both Ash Bones. That way, nobody would die.

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    • wow they snuck in a new scene with Yagura...why couldnt they have given a more detailed elaboration on that in the Akatsuki mini-arc? SP is fucking trash as usual lol

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    • It was OK. I mean, pretty sad how Obito died, but it looks like the next two episodes will be rushed because we spent the last 2 just focusing on Obito.

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    • I don't get how are there so many 5/5 votes and so little 1/5 votes. I don't even get why is Obito in those alternate realities still without one of his sharingan, it's so farfetch'd and dumb.

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    • GreatestSin wrote: a bigger question is: how are kakashi and obito able to run in such a strong gravity field?

      My guess is that the field's designed to affect chakra along with mass. Weak people like Kakashi and Obito probably weighed around twice as much or so, but Kaguya might've weighed in the tens, if not hundreds, of tons.

      As for Obito being unredeemable, well, he made it clear himself that nothing could be done, which is (partially) why he seeked death. Even then, neither Kishi nor Pierrot tried to explain these kinds of things, which leaves Obito's redemption just as half-baked as the decision to make Obito into a bad guy in the first place.

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    • ^oh, interesting idea, i wish kishi would have mentioned that in order to avoid the plothole of the two running in a place where sasuke, naruto and kaguya are bound to ground >_<

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    • ChibiBuu wrote: I don't even get why is Obito in those alternate realities still without one of his sharingan, it's so farfetch'd and dumb.

      Since he would've died without Madara, he likely imagines himself as being redeemed after his whole incident. And his Sharingan was explicitly a gift, would be very awkward to say afterwards "yea remember my dying words?"

      Ajr1218 wrote: As for Obito being unredeemable, well, he made it clear himself that nothing could be done, which is (partially) why he seeked death. Even then, neither Kishi nor Pierrot tried to explain these kinds of things, which leaves Obito's redemption just as half-baked as the decision to make Obito into a bad guy in the first place.

      He was a jinchuriki who had his beast extracted, which guarantees death. Then, he used Rinne Tensei, which guarantees death. Obito couldn't be saved. This is why he was willing to die. and given that he couldn't even use Susanoo with both eyes present, it seems his body was too weak to really use his full potential, which is why he came back to Kakashi.

      Considering other things, like the Cursed Puppet seal and the half-zetsu body, one can ask how much Obito truly was himself. Also note that with his Mangekyou power, he must've felt reality was very much a joke. (not unlike Itachi who's genjutsu made him question reality).

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    • Well, it's kinda simple - Obito imagined himself returning to Konoha after Rin's death instead of choosing to bond with Madara in his Eye of the Moon Plan. It doesn't cancel the events of Obito being near death, giving up his left Sharingan to Kakashi and then Madara saving him. I don't think that in this scenario Obito would've asked Kakashi to give him his "last gift" eye back, especially since during his reabilitation he was fond of the idea that with Kakashi possessing his second eye they would be able to protect Rin akin to Madara's statement "Sharingan shows his potential only in pair".

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    • Wow. I see why I was in no rush to watch this episode. The whole thing was basically a flashback for Obito and seeing what his future would have been. He took forever to die. The shadow clones of Naruto got turned to ash within seconds. Just counting his speech took over 3 minutes before he went. As for what I rate the episode, I'm sure you can guess already.

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