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  • this is alive minato and kabuto can't use edo tensei who you guys think would take this one?

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    • Can kabuto survive rasengan(or its variant)? Because that will decide this fight.. If he can than it's almost 50-50.

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    • wait just a minute , kabuto knows everything about Minato , he is a supreme form of sage mode with instincts to counter and dodge almost anything , am sorry i just dont see Minato wining here.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Can kabuto survive rasengan(or its variant)? Because that will decide this fight.. If he can than it's almost 50-50.

      I think, he can survive it just fine, with Uzumaki and White Snake regeneration + shedding skin ability healing up all the damage.

      But yeah, basically, Minato is the one at disadvantage here. Kabuto can react to any blitz attack with SM sensing and even in case he can't, the damage done to him would be easy to heal thanks to the said abilities, while that kind of attacks is the basis of Minato's battlestyle.

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    • Even than it's 50-50.. He can use reaper death seal..

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    • Kabuto's plethora of abilities will overwhelm Minato despite the fact that the latter has a huge edge in mobility. I'd say Kabuto wins

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    • Just one man's opinion here, but previous comments seem to be undervaluing the Fourth Hokage. Consider what he's capable of, of what has been said of him. Jiraiya likened him to a genius level intellect that is only seen once in a lifetime. The Fourth Raikage didn't think it was possible for Minato to be defeated. He had the highest scores in the history of the Academy, was the youngest Hokage that ever lived; he has the marks of a true Sage when he enters Sage Mode (fans believe in error that he isn't skilled at it, which isn't true; it just doesn't fit in with his typical style of speed and quick movement). If Minato and Kabuto stood side by side, without Kabuto having any artificial enhancements, Minato would eviscerate Kabuto.

      With the enhancements, yes, Kabuto becomes much more of a threat, but it's worthy of noting Minato is still a much shrewder shinobi with a collection of deadly jutsu at his disposal. And if he is the jinchuriki of the Yin-half of the Kyuubi in this battle, then it's endgame. That gives him much more high-quality chakra, much greater healing abilities, and substantially increased speed, strength, and dexterity.

      Minato vs. Non-Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, no difficulty.

      Minato vs. Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, mid-high difficulty.

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    • UltimaDude wrote: Kabuto's plethora of abilities will overwhelm Minato despite the fact that the latter has a huge edge in mobility. I'd say Kabuto wins

      which special ability you are talking about? sound-4? Oro's abilities?

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    • SovereignKage wrote: Just one man's opinion here, but previous comments seem to be undervaluing the Fourth Hokage. Consider what he's capable of, of what has been said of him. Jiraiya likened him to a genius level intellect that is only seen once in a lifetime. The Fourth Raikage didn't think it was possible for Minato to be defeated. He had the highest scores in the history of the Academy, was the youngest Hokage that ever lived; he has the marks of a true Sage when he enters Sage Mode (fans believe in error that he isn't skilled at it, which isn't true; it just doesn't fit in with his typical style of speed and quick movement). If Minato and Kabuto stood side by side, without Kabuto having any artificial enhancements, Minato would eviscerate Kabuto.

      With the enhancements, yes, Kabuto becomes much more of a threat, but it's worthy of noting Minato is still a much shrewder shinobi with a collection of deadly jutsu at his disposal. And if he is the jinchuriki of the Yin-half of the Kyuubi in this battle, then it's endgame. That gives him much more high-quality chakra, much greater healing abilities, and substantially increased speed, strength, and dexterity.

      Minato vs. Non-Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, no difficulty.

      Minato vs. Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, mid-high difficulty.

      I'm pretty sure that I said Alive Minato,and none of your arguments really proofs how Minato would win,just that he is a genius and Jirayia really like him,I don't see how this is enough to beat a sage kabuto.

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    • Alive minato can not beat kabuto,maybe with kurama.

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    • really even if he tags kabuto?
      Though to be honest I would like to see kabuto surviving UBBR...

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: really even if he tags kabuto?
      Though to be honest I would like to see kabuto surviving UBBR...

      Imagine if jiraya was uzumaki+had hashis cells+was in sm.Regeneration wouldev had been crazy and thats kabuto.UBBR isnt going to kill nor hit him.

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    • you are saying that even after tagging?

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    • Minato doesn't have to kill Kabuto, Minato is a master soft sealing Jutsu so he can just seal Kabuto instead of killing him

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    • Seal him with what exactly? Not to mention it's rather hard to perform sealing jutsu when you're under a genjutsu even Itachi couldn't break by himself.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: you are saying that even after tagging?

      Assuming he tags him.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: really even if he tags kabuto?
      Though to be honest I would like to see kabuto surviving UBBR...

      and how the heck will minato will tag someone that is constantly on sage mode?even if he does he can just use his snake shedding and get out of it just fine. the only way to kill kabuto is that somehow he runs out of chakra,so he can't use his healing powers anymore.

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    • Narutopwnu7 wrote:

      and how the heck will minato will tag someone that is constantly on sage mode?even if he does he can just use his snake shedding and get out of it just fine. the only way to kill kabuto is that somehow he runs out of chakra,so he can't use his healing powers anymore.

      Well bad news is that once you are tagged you are tagged. unless of course you become TTJ.
      I think rasengan variants should be more than enough to do the job.
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    • U keep ignoring the fact that minato cant tag him.

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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote: U keep ignoring the fact that minato cant tag him.

      why not a shadow clone could easily tag him before he disappears.

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    • Narutopwnu7 wrote:

      SovereignKage wrote: Just one man's opinion here, but previous comments seem to be undervaluing the Fourth Hokage. Consider what he's capable of, of what has been said of him. Jiraiya likened him to a genius level intellect that is only seen once in a lifetime. The Fourth Raikage didn't think it was possible for Minato to be defeated. He had the highest scores in the history of the Academy, was the youngest Hokage that ever lived; he has the marks of a true Sage when he enters Sage Mode (fans believe in error that he isn't skilled at it, which isn't true; it just doesn't fit in with his typical style of speed and quick movement). If Minato and Kabuto stood side by side, without Kabuto having any artificial enhancements, Minato would eviscerate Kabuto.

      With the enhancements, yes, Kabuto becomes much more of a threat, but it's worthy of noting Minato is still a much shrewder shinobi with a collection of deadly jutsu at his disposal. And if he is the jinchuriki of the Yin-half of the Kyuubi in this battle, then it's endgame. That gives him much more high-quality chakra, much greater healing abilities, and substantially increased speed, strength, and dexterity.

      Minato vs. Non-Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, no difficulty.

      Minato vs. Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, mid-high difficulty.

      I'm pretty sure that I said Alive Minato,and none of your arguments really proofs how Minato would win,just that he is a genius and Jirayia really like him,I don't see how this is enough to beat a sage kabuto.

      Yes sir, you're correct, you did say alive Minato. I could be misinformed, so I'll rely on you to correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Minato made into a jinchuriki before death...? When he was alive?

      In any case, I've often felt that the whole of this community overlooks the sheer usefulness of a character's creativity and smarts in the series. If Naruto vs. Zabuza had never occurred, or Shikamaru vs. Hidan had never occurred, then 99% of fans would give the victory to the character that ultimately lost. Ingenuity and intelligence are the greater factors here, and Minato, I think, would be hailed as superior to Kabuto by the majority of people familiar with Naruto. Sure, Kabuto has more fire-power (assuming we're not counting Minato's living moments as a Jinchuriki), but he's not contending with a genin or a jonin here. He's fighting Minato, who has some extraordinary accomplishments and achievements under his belt.

      I think people look at Minato and think "speed" when it's a more complex character than that. As displayed when combating another genius, Itachi (who is noted to have low chakra reserves), Kabuto's big guns failed when a calm and smart personality engaged him.

      I still give it to Minato. Peace out.

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    • SovereignKage wrote:

      Narutopwnu7 wrote:

      SovereignKage wrote: Just one man's opinion here, but previous comments seem to be undervaluing the Fourth Hokage. Consider what he's capable of, of what has been said of him. Jiraiya likened him to a genius level intellect that is only seen once in a lifetime. The Fourth Raikage didn't think it was possible for Minato to be defeated. He had the highest scores in the history of the Academy, was the youngest Hokage that ever lived; he has the marks of a true Sage when he enters Sage Mode (fans believe in error that he isn't skilled at it, which isn't true; it just doesn't fit in with his typical style of speed and quick movement). If Minato and Kabuto stood side by side, without Kabuto having any artificial enhancements, Minato would eviscerate Kabuto.

      With the enhancements, yes, Kabuto becomes much more of a threat, but it's worthy of noting Minato is still a much shrewder shinobi with a collection of deadly jutsu at his disposal. And if he is the jinchuriki of the Yin-half of the Kyuubi in this battle, then it's endgame. That gives him much more high-quality chakra, much greater healing abilities, and substantially increased speed, strength, and dexterity.

      Minato vs. Non-Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, no difficulty.

      Minato vs. Enhanced Kabuto: Minato wins, mid-high difficulty.

      I'm pretty sure that I said Alive Minato,and none of your arguments really proofs how Minato would win,just that he is a genius and Jirayia really like him,I don't see how this is enough to beat a sage kabuto.

      Yes sir, you're correct, you did say alive Minato. I could be misinformed, so I'll rely on you to correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Minato made into a jinchuriki before death...? When he was alive?

      In any case, I've often felt that the whole of this community overlooks the sheer usefulness of a character's creativity and smarts in the series. If Naruto vs. Zabuza had never occurred, or Shikamaru vs. Hidan had never occurred, then 99% of fans would give the victory to the character that ultimately lost. Ingenuity and intelligence are the greater factors here, and Minato, I think, would be hailed as superior to Kabuto by the majority of people familiar with Naruto. Sure, Kabuto has more fire-power (assuming we're not counting Minato's living moments as a Jinchuriki), but he's not contending with a genin or a jonin here. He's fighting Minato, who has some extraordinary accomplishments and achievements under his belt.

      I think people look at Minato and think "speed" when it's a more complex character than that. As displayed when combating another genius, Itachi (who is noted to have low chakra reserves), Kabuto's big guns failed when a calm and smart personality engaged him.

      I still give it to Minato. Peace out.

      what you mean with kabuto's big gun failed against Sasuke and Itachi?he was beating them both just fine.

      @Kakashisologod1 so far I remeber sage kabuto only had uzumaki healing powers not Hashirama's. still the only to kill sage kabuto is battling him for long enough till him runst out of chakra the same way Madara did against Hashirama in vote.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote:

      Kakashisologod1 wrote: U keep ignoring the fact that minato cant tag him.

      why not a shadow clone could easily tag him before he disappears.

      Because his shadow clone is slower?@Narutopwnu7 if i remember correctly kabuto gave sasuke hashis cells(right)?

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    • C`mon, guys, you must admit that it's Minato who actually lacks firepower to take Kabuto down, even with his genuis-level intelligence. All we know that Minato's battlestyle revolves around blitzing the enemy with FTG and then defeating/killing them with either FTG kunai slash or a Rasengan. But this isn't going to work on Kabuto, who both has a chance to react on FTG with his SM sensing and can easily heal all the damage caused by kunai or Rasengan. Even if he gets marked, that's not going to help Minato in any way if he can't inflict the damage sufficient for incapacitating Kabuto for good. We haven't heard that Minato possesses some fuinjutsu that is able to seal off the human bodies completely, except for the Reaper Death Seal, which requires a sacrifice of the user's life as well. Also, while Kabuto is likely inferior to Minato in terms of intelligence, he isn't that dumb either, especially with all the intel gathered by him, where he can have some knowlegde on Minato too, while Minato has never met him in any of his forms and thus isn't aware about the most of his abilities.

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    • Kakashisologod1 wrote:

      Namikazenaruto9 wrote:

      Kakashisologod1 wrote: U keep ignoring the fact that minato cant tag him.

      why not a shadow clone could easily tag him before he disappears.

      Because his shadow clone is slower?@Narutopwnu7 if i remember correctly kabuto gave sasuke hashis cells(right)?

      Does slower matter? Because its still teleportation?
      @Ravenlot27
      I think a bigger rasengan would do the trick once he tags him.
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    • Sigh,to teleport he needs to throw kunai.U think he is just gonna stand there?

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    • Minatos so fast he could out speed allof kabutos attacks so I think he would win

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    • Not the tajujas genjutsu or his sound/vibration jutsu.

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    • I think SovereignKage got it right. Kabuto is powerful, but Minato is better. And if we are counting Yin Kyuubi for Minato, that not only gives him great increases in all ways, but it would be difficult to lock him into any genjutsus, as proven by fellow jinchuriki Killer B.

      I feel like if the Tobi vs. Minato fight had never happened, everyone would be like "Minato is speedy but you can't hurt what you can't touch Tobi has Kamui and Tobi has Sharingan Minato doesn't Tobi wins". But Minato is super smart and strong. He caught a TBB with a FTG Barrier, evaded capture by Kamui, and within minutes created a strategy that brought him victory.

      The same would happen here. Kabuto won't be a walk in the park for him, but Minato wins.

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    • All the people giving Minato the victory are talking only about his accomplishments as a ninja along with the variant of him having Yin-Kurama (which isn't the case, since Minato didn't have Kurama in his living form, as stated by the TS), but fail to mention how exactly Minato would be able to defeat Kabuto. As I already said, both Rasengan and kunai slash aren't going to work on the latter, even while combined with the FTG. And no, I don't think that the Big Ball Rasengan can finish him off either, while Minato isn't even known as a BBR user, the only thing he used was a somewhat larger regular Rasengan which didn't kill Tobi as far as I remember. The only thing I see virtually working on Kabuto is the Reaper Death Seal, but it automatically leads to a double KO.

      Edit: And besides, regarding the genuis, actually, it was Kabuto who was said a) to rival Kakashi's level and b) have the skills superior to those of Tsunade in her prime, while both these statements referred only to his Part 1 form which didn't even have any of his later enhancements. So, it's not like Kabuto himself cannot be hyped the same way as Minato, even by the accomplishments, though I'd rather avoid it, since hype isn't really the appropriate way to decide the outcome of the fight.

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    • Minato cant escape the sound genjutsu,it required itachi and sasuke to break it.

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    • for me minato is too fast for kabuto and i think that kabuto cannot stay very long time in sage mode so for me minato win.

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    • Kabuto can stay in Sage Mode as long as he pleases. Also Minato has no way of escaping or counter White Rage or Sound Genjutsu, and stabbing Kabuto with a Kunai will do Jack shit to him, same with a Rasengan impact as he will just heal the damage just like Oro would.

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    • If Minato tags him then Kabuto can be sended to the ocean (war arc when Minato arrives and saves the alliance from the juubi TBB)

      Itachi and Sasuke got hit by white rage and could still cast genjutsu on each other to get free, Minato can likely use FTG to get out of danger and undo the genjutsu

      If for some reason Minato can't close in the distance to mark Kabuto then he can summon Gamabunta connecting the frog to Kabuto and using chakra link for the teleportation (like he did in his fight aganist Kurama)

      If you give a bunch of edo tensei to Kabuto Minato could still win if the contract seal he used on Obito works also for the edo contract


      EDIT: That was Tayuya genjutsu, I confused the two, but the thing should still work

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    • Idk how far Kabuto's regen goes, but I do remember Minato setting up some techs to use on Obito that looked like a near simultaneous all-angle assault.

      In any case, I think a lot of this fight depends on knowledge. If there's knowledge, then Minato will try to BFR him quick before Kabuto can get the Sound Genjutsu off. Even with SM, I think if anyone could actually tag Kabuto, it'd be Minato.

      But if Kabuto gets Sound Genjutsu off, Minato is kind of screwed. The two Uchiha couldn't get out of it on their own. So Minato almost certainly couldn't.

      Minato could also try some sort of sealing. He's rather good at sealing, but we haven't seen many techniques from him so to say he could seal off any of Kabuto's techniques is a real stretch.

      So yeah, I think Kabuto would win. Honestly mainly due to Sound Genjutsu. Without the Sound Genjutsu, It'd be so much more even and I'd be more inclined to say Minato finds a way to bring Kabuto down after a long hard fight. But as it stands now, seems like Kabuto would inevitably win.

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    • @Squinty

      Fair point, but do you think Tayuya genjutsu is somehow amped in the hands of Kabuto?

      Like Shikamaru could break himself free thanks to his shadow

      Seems like it immolizes you but you can still use chakra, if that's true Minato has some ways out of it

      Still, a good strategy for Kabuto could be spamming it (I don't know why he didn't do it actually)

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    • Kabuto's version of her Sound Genjutsu is Senjutsu boosted.

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    • Ok

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