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  • So people ship those two dumb brats.

    But I realized that Boruto being the son of the Reincarnation of Ashura and the "Byakugan Princess", while Sarada is the daughter of the Reincarnation of Indra and a useless trash that doesn't matter. So if the children of the reincarnations of the Sage's children, the princess and a useless trash which has a powerful healing factor f***. The result could be powerful.

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    • no. its means that it is 0% otsutsuki, 25% uzumaki, 25% hyuga, 25% uchiha, and 25% haruno. *more or less.

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: no. its means that it is 0% otsutsuki, 25% uzumaki, 25% hyuga, 25% uchiha, and 25% haruno. *more or less.

      Won't the child from Boruto inherit either Uzumaki(50%) or Hyuga(50%)? Same with Sarada, either child will inherit Uchiha(50%) or Haruno(50%)?

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    • Um, no. Because while in theory correct, that's not a direct translation of how the passing of Chromosomes and DNA work.

      Anyway, if you want to be entirely accurate, let's see.

      For the sake of argument, despite the fact that a soul's reincarnation does not translate to DNA, we'll say that Naruto and Sasuke count as the full blooded kids of Hagaromo. As such, they're each 50% Otsutsuki. So their kids are then 25% Otsutsuki, and if those kids have a kid, the resultant kid would be 25% Otsutsuki because 2/8 make a quarter. Hinata on the other hand is a long way descended from the Otsutsuki, so despite the very... Let's say monotonous look to the Hyuga, she probably doesn't carry much from them besides the Byakugan as a heavily dominant gene.

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    • Hawkeye2701 wrote: Um, no. Because while in theory correct, that's not a direct translation of how the passing of Chromosomes and DNA work.

      Anyway, if you want to be entirely accurate, let's see.

      For the sake of argument, despite the fact that a soul's reincarnation does not translate to DNA, we'll say that Naruto and Sasuke count as the full blooded kids of Hagaromo. As such, they're each 50% Otsutsuki. So their kids are then 25% Otsutsuki, and if those kids have a kid, the resultant kid would be 25% Otsutsuki because 2/8 make a quarter. Hinata on the other hand is a long way descended from the Otsutsuki, so despite the very... Let's say monotonous look to the Hyuga, she probably doesn't carry much from them besides the Byakugan as a heavily dominant gene.

      What is this quarter talk and so on? If Boruto possesses the otsutsuki genes either he will have 50% or none at all. Same with future generation. Either they will get genes or they will not. And it always will be 50 or 0 or 100%.
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    • 'Shaking my head'

      Let's get 100% correct here: Assuming the thing from anime is the same in canon, that Hagoromo and Hamura's father was a human is correct, then Hagoromo and Hamura were already only 50% Otsutsuki 50% human.

      In that case, Asura and Indra were only 25% Otsutsuki already. Being reincarnation of either son doesn't make one have the same genes. The reincarnations simply have Asura's/Indra's chakra mixed in with their own. So theoretically, purely in terms of power, the Asura and Indra incarnates are partial resets of the bloodline's power, but not biologically.

      Naruto and Sasuke are 99,999999999999999999999% human, since not only they are descended from people who already had only 1/4(25%) alien genes, but over 1000 years has passed since, that's far too many generations and mixing with ordinary humans to consider them part anything.

      They are simply humans with alien ancestry, possibly having a few odd genes in here and there. Let's not forget that in all likelihood, descendants of Asura and Indra and descendants of Hamura's children must have on occasion bred with others outside of their clan, thus whatever may have remained of the alien genes has possibly spread to a considerable part of human population.

      In other words, a considerable part of Naruto human population today in one way or another descends from Kaguya, if not the very majority even.

      So taking look at the clans, the 'least human/most alien' people in recent times would be the Kaguya Clan due to their non-ordinary body structure and skeletal power inherited from Kaguya, the Hyuga Clan, literally possessing genes for alien eyes and the Moon Otsutsuki. Followed right after with Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha and whatnot distantly related clans and individuals to these, along with Kinkaku and Ginkaku.

      In other words, biologically speaking, Boruto is 99,99999999999999x% human and so is Sarada. Power wise, they are children of reincarnations of Asura and Indra who were further empowered, so in terms of chakra, right after Naruto and Sasuke of course, they are the closest to Asura and Indra, yes.

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    • @Elevenora
      I still don't get it
      Let's say Hagoromo has Ot OT(XY) as his DNA. Than Ashura should have Ot Hy(XY) and Indra Hx OT where I am assuming Hy as Y from human and Hx as X from Human. Whichever human gets these Genes Ot Hy he would be Ashura.
      And whoever gets Hx OT he would be Indra. There is no dilution of genes. They will always be 0, 50 or 100% in similarity.

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    • Ot what? Try to make it easier to understand.

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    • Elveonora wrote: Ot what? Try to make it easier to understand.

      Okay let's put it this way
      Hagoromo has XY chromosomes correct? let them be Ox Oy
      Indra and Ashura should possess that half of Hagoromo's DNA(let them be Hx Oy, Where Hx is human DNA portion, Oy is Ōtsutsuki's). Son's of Indra and Ashura possess half of Indra and Ashura respectively however that no way means that they possess 1/4th of Hagoromo's. They either possess 50% of his DNA or 0%. This is because either their son would possess Hx Hy(both human chromosome) or again Hx Oy depending on which they inherit. Thus it will always be 50% of Ōtsutsuki's DNA.

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    • Not correct. A child inherits half of each parents' X chromosome. If we take Hagoromo as half human half alien, that means he inherited half Kaguya's X chromosome and half his father's X chromosome along with his Y chromosome.

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    • Elveonora wrote: Not correct. A child inherits half of each parents' X chromosome. If we take Hagoromo as half human half alien, that means he inherited half Kaguya's X chromosome and half his father's X chromosome along with his Y chromosome.

      Child inherits half of parent's chromosome is True, However that doesn't mean he inherits 1/4th of Grandparents is all I am saying. the child would either inherit 100% or 50% or 0% depending on genes.
      Let me put to you this way. Let Ōtsutsuki be Tall (T) genes humans be short genes(t)
      Let for simplicity Hagoromo have TT. Than Ashura and Indra will have Tt as their genes. Now Tt(Indra/Ashura) cross tt(humans) would give four kinds of Children Tt tt tt Tt. Which is what I said. Either children Have 50% of Grandparents genes or 0 % in this scenario however if "somehow" someone of Indra-Ashura stature breeds than we get Tt cross Tt
      than children will have TT tT Tt tt as their genes. TT would mean pure Ōtsutsuki: Hagoromo's state ,Tt means Indra-Ashura state. than in this case we have Children with 100 % Grandparents genes, 50% of Grandparents genes or 0%.
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    • Not really. If you have this hypothetical hybrid individual and said hybrid has half human genes half alien and breeds with human and the resulting child/children gets half of each parents' genes, it means the child may from the father's side inherit either more of the human genes or more alien genes, it's random.

      Only the hybrid individual is 50/50, his progeny in theory may also be 50/50 or even a complete human if the child inherits none of the alien genes.

      Looking at Asura and Indra, that seems to be the case, their mother was in all likelihood a human woman and they inherited mostly if not completely just human genes from Hagoromo.

      I still don't get what this has to do with reincarnations.

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    • Elveonora wrote:

      Not really. If you have this hypothetical hybrid individual and said hybrid has half human genes half alien and breeds with human and the resulting child/children gets half of each parents' genes, it means the child may from the father's side inherit either more of the human genes or more alien genes, it's random.
      That part is natural selection. The genes which get chosen is random...

      Elveonora wrote: Only the hybrid individual is 50/50, his progeny in theory may also be 50/50 or even a complete human if the child inherits none of the alien genes. Looking at Asura and Indra, that seems to be the case, their mother was in all likelihood a human woman and they inherited mostly if not completely just human genes from Hagoromo. I still don't get what this has to do with reincarnations.

      No I was refuting the fact that Sages's grandsons had 25% power. If they inherited Sage's power than they will always have 1/2, 1 or 0 of his power no other fraction(like how people were saying that grand children will have 1/4th of sages power, sons of grand child would have 1/8th of sages power etc and how naruto and sasuke are 99.99% human, these are wrong conclusions).
      In terms of reincarnation of Indra and Ashura it means they require the particular human's gene along with Ōtsutsuki to recreate their chakra.
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    • I know that, the value I used was completely hypothetical, hence why I later said it's random. The point still stands, how did people come up with Boruto and Sarada's hypothetical child being 'insert %' Otsutsuki?

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    • That was my first doubt. it should be some hybrid of uzumaki, uchiha, hyuga or haruno.

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    • didn't I kinda solve this whole problem in my 1st comment? like, that was pretty obvious, wanst it?

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    • A correction here:

      Humans have (normally) 26 chromosome pairs. The reproductive DNA (what goes in an egg or seed cell) consists of 26 single chromosomes. The actual chromosomes that get picked are chosen at random. Upon fertilization, these chromosomes meet up to form 26 pairs once more. So from 2 parents with 26 pairs each there are 26^4=456976 potential combinations for the child. (since a child can, for each pair, inherit one of either parent's chromosome. Assumes unique chromosomes, which due to mutations may be a very reasonable assumption)

      This means that certain blocks of DNA will always inherit together (assuming no mutations).

      Now, this means that Kaguya (26 "otsutsuki" pairs) gave birth to two half-humans (26 pairs, one chromosome human and one otsutsuki each). Upon procreation, the result for Ashura and Indra can be almost anything, from 26 human chromosome pairs to 26 of Hagoromo's otsutsuki chromosomes and 26 from their mother and anything in between. The statistical median for this is 75% human (on average, about half of Hagormo's contribution is his human half and on average about half his contribution is alien), but for small sample sizes like 2 kids a median is meaningless.

      The same applies to Naruto and Sasuke, except it's even less clear. We don't know what chromosomes Naruto has that encode his Uzumaki DNA, nor do we know what chromosomes Hinata has that encode her Hyuga DNA. Their child could inherit both Hyuga and Uzumaki chromosomes, or just Hyuga and Naruto's non-uzumaki (or vice versa) or neither, or some combination of Hyuga and Uzumaki chromosomes.

      Since Himawari has yet to display typical Uzumaki genes (long lifespan, strong healing) and Boruto typical Hyuga genes (that is, a proper Byakugan), it's already quite clear that they won't pass on their parent's combined power. The same is true for Sarada: She isn't showing a Rinnegan.

      Then, their children would have to inherit the particular "clan chromosomes" once more, without loss. In other words, a Sarada x Boruto child could quite literally be anything. It could even be a plain human.

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    • You explained it well Kill, kudos. Both Boruto and Sarada are for the most part human, if they have any alien genes, they are recessive traits. It seems only Hyuga Clan, Kaguya Clan and Moon Otsutsuki etc. managed to maintain some alien traits, most likely thanks to some practices of inbeeding.

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    • well, even if those eps were filler, both hago and hamura had more human-like traits than kaguya-like traits. heck, madara looked more like her than they did.

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: well, even if those eps were filler, both hago and hamura had more human-like traits than kaguya-like traits. heck, madara looked more like her than they did.

      Even in their young Manga appearance, they look remarkably human. Although at any point Hagoromo looks considerably more human than Hamura.

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    • well, he doesn't have white, long ass hair, and white, big ass eyes...

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: didn't I kinda solve this whole problem in my 1st comment? like, that was pretty obvious, wanst it?

      you didn't get it, after all my explanation you don't seem to catch up. There can't be any other percentage other than 0, 50 or 100%
      There is no 25%Uzumaki Uchiha and whatever you are saying.
      Boruto possess 50% Hyuga, (50% Uzumaki or 50% Namikaze) Heritage as of now. Sarada on other hand possess 50% Haruno and 50% Uchiha. If these two were to breed you will get again: 50%Uchiha-50% Hyuga or 50%Uchiha-50%Uzumaki or 50%Uchiha-50%Namikaze or 50%Haruno-50%Hyuga or 50%Haruno-50%Uzumaki or 50%Haruno-50% Namikaze. These will be 6 types of kids Boruto and Sarada will have and not some 25%(1/4) or 12.5%(1/8) or any other fraction for that matter of something.

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    • and u got this info from?....

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: and u got this info from?....

      from MAGIC.
      It's basic genetics..

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: you didn't get it, after all my explanation you don't seem to catch up. There can't be any other percentage other than 0, 50 or 100%

      There can be percentages other than that. Only if all of the Hyuga's genetic traits are in one Chromosome pair (and need both chromosomes to be "hyuga") do you get your case. We don't have enough information about this.

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    • Thekillman wrote: There can be percentages other than that. Only if all of the Hyuga's genetic traits are in one Chromosome pair (and need both chromosomes to be "hyuga") do you get your case. We don't have enough information about this.

      Hyuga's are genetically pure species considering their background of inbreeding. There is no way of having other percentages no matter how you slice the breeding. Put it simply all I am saying is that I am not talking about traits but about being a hyuga. And being Hyuga will either be 50%, 0% or 100% from the cross of genes I talked about earlier. Two your case is not true for simple reason that Himmawari exists. Single Hyuga gene has enough to manifest the Byakugan.
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    • I just feel the need to be clear, I wasn't taking about the descendants having anything like the Sage's power, just the theoretical inheritance of genes. That means that, again, taking the assumption that being a reincarnation has any affect on genetics, that their descendants could inherit any trait/chromosome from the Otsutsuki.

      Like Boruto clearly inherited his dad's hair, which we know comes from Minato, but I'm not gonna say he has a quarter of Minato's power, just blonde spiky hair.

      Himawari inherited Hinata's hair, her dad's eyes and seemingly the power to take out the Hokage in one blow, so clearly she's 100% badass. XD

      Sarada seemingly inherited next to no obvious traits from Sakura, looking largely like members of the Uchiha.

      On top of that, we do also have to include the concept of selective breeding/inbreeding in maintaining bloodline traits and the fact that distant members of the same clan aren't really bothered by dating each other.

      Like the Hyuga all have the same pale lavender eyes normally, but this isn't a necessary trait for them to use Byakugan since Himawari inherited her dad's eyes, but can still use Byakugan.

      It's all a big hodgepodge, but when I was talking about things like 25% Otsutsuki, I meant things like "Maybe Boruto and Sarada's kid will look a bit like Asura, in theory" not "The kid will be one quarter Sage of Sixth Paths power."

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote: Hyuga's are genetically pure species considering their background of inbreeding.

      Not really though. OP is asking about Otsutsuki, in which case the Hyuga are hybrids and not pure of species. A Boruto animator suggested that Boruto's unusual eye is due to a combination of Kurama and Hyuga genes, suggesting that there are at least two separate chromosome pairs involved with the Hyuga genome (since Boruto lacks a Byakugan and Himawari lacks a "Jogan").

      Himawari also lacks the standard white eye of the Hyuga, suggesting that she doesn't have the whole Byakugan package either.

      Hawkeye2701 wrote: I just feel the need to be clear, I wasn't taking about the descendants having anything like the Sage's power, just the theoretical inheritance of genes.

      I don't think this distinction matters a lot, seems like most people got the picture. The issue with recreating an Otsutsuki is that it would require a recombination of a large number of genes, and that this recombination is unlikely to happen.

      As i outlined before, there are MANY ways in which Kaguya's alien genes can combine and recombine even in relatively genetically pure people. Sasuke, Naruto and Hinata would need quite a breeding program and scheme to get an otsutsuki back, and even then it's unlikely since said otsutsuki offspring would him/herself need to reproduce with a genetic equivalent to maintain this offspring.

      So whether you're talking about power, abilities, features, KKG, KKT, or clan genes doesn't really matter because in any case you are talking about many genes needing to be combined into a single individual, whereas the statistics suggests this won't happen.

      If you want, i could give a small numerical breakdown for a simplified (say, 4 chromosomes) system. But this would make my current post too long.

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    • Thekillman wrote: I don't think this distinction matters a lot, seems like most people got the picture.

      Yeah, but Namikaze or whoever was accusing people of saying it was like 25% of the sage's power. So I just wanted to be clear I wasn't talking about power whatsoever.

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    • Namikazenaruto9 wrote:

      Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: didn't I kinda solve this whole problem in my 1st comment? like, that was pretty obvious, wanst it?

      you didn't get it, after all my explanation you don't seem to catch up. There can't be any other percentage other than 0, 50 or 100%
      There is no 25%Uzumaki Uchiha and whatever you are saying.
      Boruto possess 50% Hyuga, (50% Uzumaki or 50% Namikaze) Heritage as of now. Sarada on other hand possess 50% Haruno and 50% Uchiha. If these two were to breed you will get again: 50%Uchiha-50% Hyuga or 50%Uchiha-50%Uzumaki or 50%Uchiha-50%Namikaze or 50%Haruno-50%Hyuga or 50%Haruno-50%Uzumaki or 50%Haruno-50% Namikaze. These will be 6 types of kids Boruto and Sarada will have and not some 25%(1/4) or 12.5%(1/8) or any other fraction for that matter of something.

      Dude, U Seem To Be The One Not Understanding. What They're Saying Makes Sense, What Ur Saying Doesn't, At All. Ur Trying To Put Power Into Genetics, But Power Has Nothing To Do With Genetics. Indra And Ashura Were Given Power By Hagoromo, But There's Little To No Chance Of Them Passing Down Said Power Via Procreation, Because Its Apart Of Their Chakra. The Only People Who Would Have Said Power Are Their Reincarnations. U Forget That Heritage Wise, There Are ALOT Of Percentages. Boruto Himself Is 25% Uzumaki, Because Naruto Was Only 50% Uzumaki In The First Place. Hinata Is Probably 100% Hyuuga Due To Clan Inbreeding. So Boruto Is 50% Hyuuga, 25% Uzumaki. Its Called Dilution. It Happens With Breeding, That's Why The Hyuuga And Uchiha Inbred, To Keep Their Kekkei Genkai From Diluting And Shit.

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    • Hawkeye2701 wrote: Yeah, but Namikaze or whoever was accusing people of saying it was like 25% of the sage's power. So I just wanted to be clear I wasn't talking about power whatsoever.

      Bro go around and see how many of these fellows are talking about power or genetic makeup. the chance of being Ōtsutsuki for child is 25% is completely different from saying he is actually 25% Ōtsutsuki. All I am pointing out is that Genes don't dilute over time. They always remain in same percentages(100,0,50). They can either die out from population or thrive depending on breeding.

      Thekillman wrote:

      Not really though. OP is asking about Otsutsuki, in which case the Hyuga are hybrids and not pure of species. A Boruto animator suggested that Boruto's unusual eye is due to a combination of Kurama and Hyuga genes, suggesting that there are at least two separate chromosome pairs involved with the Hyuga genome (since Boruto lacks a Byakugan and Himawari lacks a "Jogan").
      Genetically pure has nothing to do with being mix or anything. It means the species have similar genetic makeup and in this case Hyugas thanks to in-breeding will be.

      Thekillman wrote: Himawari also lacks the standard white eye of the Hyuga, suggesting that she doesn't have the whole Byakugan package either.

      Missing other half of Hyuga should have consequences which is to be expected. Two Boruto doesn't has the gene must either be mutation or again natural selection. Either way neither of these scenario contradict my standing about the genes always being present as 0 or 50 or 100%. There is no way you can have any other fraction.

      Bob1200 wrote: Dude, U Seem To Be The One Not Understanding. What They're Saying Makes Sense, What Ur Saying Doesn't, At All. Ur Trying To Put Power Into Genetics, But Power Has Nothing To Do With Genetics. Indra And Ashura Were Given Power By Hagoromo, But There's Little To No Chance Of Them Passing Down Said Power Via Procreation, Because Its Apart Of Their Chakra.

      Okay first of all The OP asked if the progeny can be Ōtsutsuki or not, Which means he is assuming somehow Boruto and Sarada did inherit those genes. His assumption can be up for debate. So assuming that depending on the makeup the child will have 100,0 or 50 % Otsustsuki gene. Put it simply he would always be half breed or Full breed Ōtsutsuki or a simple Human.
      Indra and Ashura weren't given power by Hagoromo they already possessed it and Hagoromo speeded up that activation process only in case of Ashura.(NOT INDRA).

      Bob1200 wrote: The Only People Who Would Have Said Power Are Their Reincarnations. U Forget That Heritage Wise, There Are ALOT Of Percentages. Boruto Himself Is 25% Uzumaki, Because Naruto Was Only 50% Uzumaki In The First Place. Hinata Is Probably 100% Hyuuga Due To Clan Inbreeding. So Boruto Is 50% Hyuuga, 25% Uzumaki. Its Called Dilution. It Happens With Breeding, That's Why The Hyuuga And Uchiha Inbred, To Keep Their Kekkei Genkai From Diluting And Shit.

      I would suggest to read the threads before, I have explained it quite well. You are confusing probability with actual genetic makeup. If you still have doubts drop a comment I will explain it again.
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    • 25% Hyuga 25% Uchiha 12.5% Uzumaki 12.5% Namikaze

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    • That's not how it works though.

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    • LucyyXNyuXHana wrote: 25% Hyuga 25% Uchiha 12.5% Uzumaki 12.5% Namikaze

      Please not again..
      This is all because of GT. all that talk about quarter saiyan and all has messed up the concepts completely.

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    • Keep in mind, this is the percentage of what genes they have -- i'm not sure if this translate well into the probability of what traits they will carry.

      Breaking down three generations Kushina = 100% Uzumaki Minato = 100% Namikaze Naruto = 50% Uzumaki 50% Namikaze ( We know he has traits from each -- blonde hair, blue eyes like his mother & her uzumaki buff of having a strong life force)

      Sasuke's Parents are both 100% Uchiha since that clan does inbreeding and he isn't a mix of anything so Sasuke = 100% ((Perhaps he has a recessive trait since his mom never showed sharingan but this is percentage of parents not traits.)

      Hinata is also 100% Hyuga because they inbred -- ALL Hyuga's have been shown to have white eyes. Byakugan can be unlocked through circumstances.

      If Naruto = 50% Uzumaki & 50% Namikaze -- his children will be half of each of those genes. Hinata would halve them 50% Hyuga

      Boruto = 25% Uzumaki 25% Namikaze and 50% Hyuga

      Sarada = 50% Uchiha 50% ???

      Sarato= 25% Uchiha 25% Hyuga 12.5% Uzumaki 12.5% Namikaze

      They will NOT inherit any special chakra and I doubt the nine-tails influence via whiskers goes this deep. Even worse byakugan and sharingan mixing might worsen their chance of unlocking either(( they'd have to mutate to have both at the same time)) Uzumaki's buffs are long worn out and namikaze has nothing special going for it.

      This has nothing to do with Dragon Ball -- somehow being a half-breed makes you stronger. This logic doesn't apply to the Narutoverse as we see traits die out over time like real traits do.

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    • @LucyyXNyuXHana
      If you feel that I am saying something wrong perhaps you can check out this article.(http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_genome/2013/10/analyze_your_child_s_dna_which_grandparents_are_most_genetically_related.html)
      Anyways I will once again explain this whole thing. People often confuse probabilities with actual genetics. Put it simply if there are no mutations we can generate clones of our parents or grandparents by selective breeding. Natural selection is also a kind of breeding. Given enough time to nurture one can simply produce any kind of human by choosing the correct parents
      When scientist talk about offspring possessing the gene they are talking about the actual percentage of gene passed onto future gen and not the gene makeup.
      Now let's start with exact calculation:

      Kushina Uzumaki   (Kx)(Kx)
      X X Note K represents Uzumaki genes
      Minato Namikaze (Nx)(Ny)
      X Y Note N represents Namikaze heritage

      If above two breed they will produce two kinds of kids:

      (Kx)(Nx) -- 50% Uzumaki and 50% Namikaze
      and (Kx)(Ny) -- 50% Uzumaki and 50% Namikaze

      For obvious reason clearly Naruto Uzumaki's genes are (Kx)(Ny) because he is a boy.
      Now let,

      Hinata Hyuga   (Hx)(Hx)
      X X Note H represents Hyuga Heritage

      Naruto and Hinata produce following kids:

      (Kx)(Hx)-- 50% Hyuga and 50% Uzumaki 
      and (Hx)(Ny) -- 50% Hyuga and 50% Namikaze

      Now we know from above cross

      Boruto's genetic marker -- (Hx)(Ny)
      and Himmawari's gene -- (Kx)(Hx)

      Now let,

      Sakura Haruno            (Sx)(Sx)
      X X S stands for Sakura's heritage Sasuke Uchiha (Ux)(Uy)
      X Y U stands for Uchiha heritage

      Than child of Sakura and Sasuke have two of following genes:

      (Sx)(Ux) -- 50% Haruno and 50% Uchiha 
      and (Sx)(Uy) -- 50% Haruno and 50% Uchiha

      Clearly,

      Sarada has    (Sx)(Ux)-- 50% Haruno 50%  Uchiha
      X X

      Now the cross between Boruto and Sarada should produce following kids
      (Sx)(Hx)-- 50% Hyuga 50% Haruno
      (Sx)(Ny)-- 50% Namikaze 50% Haruno
      (Ux)(Hx)-- 50% Uchiha 50% Hyuga
      (Ux)(Ny)-- 50% Uchiha 50% Namikaze
      >Actually each cross produces four children but only two are distinct for all our purposes.
      Clearly these are the only possible offsprings of Boruto and Sarada.(This math is Disregarding mutation, I can do the math for with Mutation (Jogan) but it might be little too much for first timers, if you insist just make a request. But first just digest this and if you have any question go ahead and ask.

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    • The 'math' is still wrong. It assumes that Kushina is something that is nothing but a mere concept, that being '100% Uzumaki' that's unlikely. Even in clans that practice inbreeding, every now and then, someone outside of the clan must provide a flux of new genes. Considering that Naruto didn't inherit most of Uzumaki specific traits/special traits from Kushina, it's likely that Kushina wasn't a 'pure' Uzumaki and Naruto might have inherited more of the non-Uzumaki traits instead.

      In that case, Naruto's X would be predominantly non-Uzumaki, with some Uzumaki genes and Y from Minato.

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    • Elveonora wrote: The 'math' is still wrong. It assumes that Kushina is something that is nothing but a mere concept, that being '100% Uzumaki' that's unlikely. Even in clans that practice inbreeding, every now and then, someone outside of the clan must provide a flux of new genes. Considering that Naruto didn't inherit most of Uzumaki specific traits/special traits from Kushina, it's likely that Kushina wasn't a 'pure' Uzumaki and Naruto might have inherited more of the non-Uzumaki traits instead.

      In that case, Naruto's X would be predominantly non-Uzumaki, with some Uzumaki genes and Y from Minato.

      Well its not just Kushina, even Hinata or sasuke should suffer from similar fate. I would like to point out though that we can actually assume them(Kushina to pinnacle of Uzumaki clan, Hinata is pinnacle of Hyuga as seen in last and Sasuke is pinnacle of Uchiha) to be almost perfect. very low percentage difference would actually be present in all these parents.
      I would say for all practical purpose and neglecting those small divisions of percents the clans were pure since if it were that easy to enter ninja clans than Hiden techniques could have been stolen or rare KKG stolen away by weaker clans this is definitely not the case.

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    • Guys it's all due to Training. Not Genetics. Genetics will only play a roll depending on what Kekkei Genkai they receive whether it be Sharingan or Byakugan or a completely new Eye Power like Boruto has. In fact I think it will be BORUTOs Kekkei Genkais Ability mixing with the Sharingan to create Something Insanely more powerful. The Kid will be a natural Prodigy. Also Sakura doesn't have a Healing Factor. It's a Jutsu.

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    • @Stevemagegod
      Having natural genetics is different from acquired trait like the 100 healing marks. ITs nothing to do with training.

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    • Since we are talking traits and genes, what is the potential of a character coming from Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki and Yuki lineage? The father is Senju/Uchiha/Uzumaki, mother is Yuki, grandfather is Senju/Uchiha while his wife is Uzumaki. Great-grandparents are Senju (great grandfather) and Uchiha (great grandmother).

      I just described to you my OC for my Fanfic and I want to be realistic in my work.

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    • did my long ass post just got erased with reply button?

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    • Lorenzo.r.2nd wrote: no. its means that it is 0% otsutsuki, 25% uzumaki, 25% hyuga, 25% uchiha, and 25% haruno. *more or less.

      it's actually 25% Namikaze

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    • thats not exactly how genetics work, recent studies show that a child could end up inheriting more DNA from an ancestor than there own parents. so its entirely possible that a child between Boruto and Sarada might inherit more of Naruto's and more of Sasuke's DNA than it does from boruto and sarada. thats the case its entirely possible that the child cold be born with power more power than say boruto and sarada.

      also there is another factor one must consider if boruto and sarada marry and have a child or children. the children would most likely be more like Boruto than Sarada, this is because recent studies show that you use more DNA passed down from your father than you do your mother. what this would mean is that any child from them would most likely use more of Boruto's DNA than Sarada's

      so in all likelihood a child between them would be mostly Uzumaki than Uchiha

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    • Actionmanrandell wrote: thats not exactly how genetics work

      Nobody knows exactly how genetics work. Plus, the very nature of Sarada X Boruto is a statistical grab. If we assume they'll only have 1 or 2 kids, there's no telling what genes that kid would have. We don't know how certain abilities are spread over certain chromosomes. It's entirely possible that a Boruto-Sarada kid gets all the basic human crap in their genes and doesn't get a single KKG, not even basic ones like long life or strong chakra. Or they could inherit ALL the magic chromosomes and get Byakugan, Sharingan, longevity, Rinnegan and what not. The idea that they're "25% uzumaki" doesn't work because in this case, Naruto and Sasuke both got special powers from Transmigrants, and Naruto has a Biju. Both affect their genes.

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    • when the question open mathematics war and finally dont answer the question but people arguing in boruto's family tree put everything in table

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    • Borjitasstoi wrote: when the question open mathematics war and finally dont answer the question but people arguing in boruto's family tree put everything in table

      The question got answered ages ago. Boruto and Sarada's child wouldn't be 65% otsutsuki, and power-wise could inherit just about anything from them in just about every way.

      If you can flip a coin and repeat that 48 times, the expected result will be close to the mean (in this case, 50% up, 50% down). That doesn't mean it can't be 100% up, or 100% down. It's just not very probable. The problem with KKG is that the coin flips are not equal. Some flips may simply cause a different eye color. other flips could dictate whether you have god-eyes. In that case, the expected outcome (50/50) can still have HUGE differences depending on the outcome of the individual flips.

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    • oh right then but all time my parent telling you have 50 from you father and 50 mother

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    • Borjitasstoi wrote: oh right then but all time my parent telling you have 50 from you father and 50 mother

      Assuming you have a fairly homogeneous gene pool, it's a convenient to simply say it that way.

      The problem here is that being 25% namikaze or whatever, doesn't really mean anything. If the child has only Sharingan, then they might as well be considered an Uchiha. If they have only Byakugan, then Hyuga. Even if they have only 25% Hyuga blood, the genes may manifest in such a way that appearance and ability-wise, they're essentially a hyuga.

      Such crude breakdowns don't really say anything about the child's actual manifested abilities. And if Boruto doesn't have the Byakugan KKG, then what would his child being 25% hyuga even mean?

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    • Thekillman wrote:

      Borjitasstoi wrote: oh right then but all time my parent telling you have 50 from you father and 50 mother

      Assuming you have a fairly homogeneous gene pool, it's a convenient to simply say it that way.

      The problem here is that being 25% namikaze or whatever, doesn't really mean anything. If the child has only Sharingan, then they might as well be considered an Uchiha. If they have only Byakugan, then Hyuga. Even if they have only 25% Hyuga blood, the genes may manifest in such a way that appearance and ability-wise, they're essentially a hyuga.

      Such crude breakdowns don't really say anything about the child's actual manifested abilities. And if Boruto doesn't have the Byakugan KKG, then what would his child being 25% hyuga even mean?

      its better wait how goes course of events for arging more in that

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    • Rasengan

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    • Boruto and Himawari is (Uzumaki 25%) and (Hyuga 75%) Sarada yes is (Uchiha 50%) (Haruno 50%) Do not do anything Ōtsutsuki why do they say that? well know your answer but Kushina is (Uzumaki 100%) and Minato (Namikaze 100) Naruto make (Uzumaki 50%) and (Namikaze 50%) Hinata make (Hyuga 100%) I'm asking a question what is DNA, Children are 50/50 parents of DNA does not belong to the ancestors.

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    • It will never happen. Sarada wants to become hokage, while Boruto resents the Hokage because of their negligence towards their family (from his experience)

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    • who knows kishimoto its a troll its better hold our horses

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    • I think you guys are looking too deep into this from a scientific point of view. This is anime for one so lets not go too deep into this lol. IF Boruto and Sarada had a child together. Kishi said that if a Uchiha and Hyuga were to have a child they would have 1 Sharingan and 1 Byakugan a long time ago. So in theory with Boruto being an Uzumaki which are directly related to the Senju who directly relate back to the Sage as well as a Hyuga who also relate back to the Sage's brother... then you have Sarada as an Uchiha which also directly relates back to the Sage... it's more than likely their child would come out with the Rinne-Sharingan/Byakugan I would think because its a direct reuniting of the bloodlines.

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    • I was under the impression that being the Reincarnation of Asura or Indra had nothing to do with blood...Naruto is barely a cousin of Hashirama, and Madara and Sasuke are also distant cousin. If Boruto were to inherit anything it would be Hamura's chakra, and Sarada would simply be a Uchiha/Haruno.

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    • Orihika wrote: I was under the impression that being the Reincarnation of Asura or Indra had nothing to do with blood

      Given that they've always chosen people of their respective clans (or in Naruto's case, related to their respective clans), i find that doubtful. Seems that Ashura and Indra can reincarnate into anyone who has a bit of their DNA.

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    • This is very simple people carry genes from ALL their ancestors that’s why all humans are related.

      Let’s use a deck of cards to represent the parents dna. For simplicity I’m starting from the grandparents.

      Assuming Kushina is a pure Uzumaki = 100% 26 chromosome pairs = 52(cards) Same with minato assumption he was 100% Namikaze = 52 cards

      Since children receive 26 from each parent naruto would be = 50% Uzumaki, 50% Namikaze.

      Now if minato and Kushina had other children it would be like someone taking both their full decks of cards (52) and shuffling it then picking a random 26 cards again. This means that even though it is highly unlikely the siblings all receive the same 26 from each parent, they will in fact receive some genes which are similar hence why siblings are related. Both siblings will still represent 50% of each parent and approximately 50% of each other.

      So in the boruto’s case he would be 50% hyuga, 25% Namikaze, 25% Uzumaki. Since both Hinata’s parents were Hyūga.

      Sarada would be 50% Uchiha 25% Haruno and 25% of whatever Sakura mom is assuming she is not Haruno.

      A offspring of boruto and Sarada would be 25% hyuga, 25% uchia, 12.5% Uzumaki, 12.5% Namikaze, 12.5% Haruno and 12.5% of whatever Sakura mother is.

      All the children they have genes will be divided into this ratio however they all won’t inherit the exact same genes with the exception of identical twins.

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    • Ninjachris wrote: Let’s use a deck of cards to represent the parents dna. For simplicity I’m starting from the grandparents.

      I've explained the exact same thing at least twice.


      Ninjachris wrote: So in the boruto’s case he would be 50% hyuga, 25% Namikaze, 25% Uzumaki. Since both Hinata’s parents were Hyūga.

      Sarada would be 50% Uchiha 25% Haruno and 25% of whatever Sakura mom is assuming she is not Haruno.

      A offspring of boruto and Sarada would be 25% hyuga, 25% uchia, 12.5% Uzumaki, 12.5% Namikaze, 12.5% Haruno and 12.5% of whatever Sakura mother is.

      This doesn't work. Boruto and Himawari are clear proof that whatever 50% of Hyuga genes they have, it's not the same. 25% hyuga has no meaning, it could be someone with byakugan or not, yet that's the most defining feature they have. Same with Sharingan. Same with all the other powers they could possibly inherit. It tells us nothing.

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    • Thekillman

      This doesn't work. Boruto and Himawari are clear proof that whatever 50% of Hyuga genes they have, it's not the same. 25% hyuga has no meaning, it could be someone with byakugan or not, yet that's the most defining feature they have. Same with Sharingan. Same with all the other powers they could possibly inherit. It tells us nothing.

      This is exactly how it works in real life and I think you didn’t read everything I said carefully I said “ the ratio will always be the same not the specific chromosomes” are you basing your theory on the Byakugan if so that really doesn’t mean much all that reveals is that boruto did not receive the chromosomes with the data for the Byakugan not that he didn’t receive 50% from Hinata also bear in mind this is fiction they could even have offsprings that are rabbits.

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    • next generation have lost DNA from past generations I said that, Boruto and Himawari is (Uzumaki 25%) and (Hyūga 75%), lost 25% of Uzumaki. I said this, because the cause of Hyuga, Hinata is 100%. Indeed, I did not say anything about Namikaze, less DNA, have the bodies of Boruto and Himawari of Namikaze. DNA powerful Hyuga than the powerful Namikaze DNA, the Boruto and Himawari's bodies.

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    • Leave aside the "Genes" part a while, If you ask about innate abilities and powers, yes, there is a chance.Though the extent of "these" are uknown. But still,

      Boruto has already shown some traits of "Hyuga" , who is a descendants of Hamura Ōtsutsuki (Boruto even awaken "Jogan"(which full ability is unknown)). And he also belongs to "Uzumaki", who is a descendants of Asura Ōtsutsuki. And since, his father Naruto, has the some of Sage of Six Path's ability.

      on the other hand, Sarada already awaken her "Sharingan", which is Uchiha's special trait, who are descendants of Indra Ōtsutsuki. Her Father, Sasuke, also has some of Sage of Six Path's ability (Rinnegan).

      And, From the beginning of Naruto Tale, Kakashi mentoined that, both Naruto and Sasuke has more chakra than him and one's chakra reserves are shown more like bloodline depended, So, Both Boruto and Sarada having more chakra reserve than normal is possible. (surely not at Naruto's level).

      if you combine all these bloodline limit traits, the off-spring having nearly the same innate abilities as Ōtsutsuki, is not an impossible state. it surely has possibilities.

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    • Ninjachris wrote: are you basing your theory on the Byakugan if so that really doesn’t mean much all that reveals is that boruto did not receive the chromosomes with the data for the Byakugan not that he didn’t receive 50% from Hinata

      That's not what i said. Hyuga are known for their byakugan. If 50% Hyuga means you may or may not have Bygakugan, then what does "50% hyuga" even mean? The kid may be 65% Otsutsuki and yet have 0 Otsutsuki traits. Then what's the point of saying they're 65% otsutsuki? Uchiha are known for their sharingan, what's the point of calling someone 25% Uchiha if that means they have no uchiha KKG? In real life there are no such extreme powers, which is why it's convenient to use percentages for heritage. Abd still they don't go about saying "this child is 50% whatever" when talking about rare genetic traits either.

      In the end, the specific powers that can be inherited by the kids have immense potential, but thinking it'll be any percentage of Otsutsuki is pointless.

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    • If they have a child there is a probability from 0% to 100% that he awakes rinnegan and have power similarities with Otsutsuki, but there is 0% chance to become an Otsutsuki. I think Toneri had the best idea trying to marry Hinata XD

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    • Zetandroid wrote: If they have a child there is a probability from 0% to 100% that he awakes rinnegan and have power similarities with Otsutsuki, but there is 0% chance to become an Otsutsuki. I think Toneri had the best idea trying to marry Hinata XD

      Since Sarada didn't inherit the Rinnegan, the chance is zero. Neither kid is a transmigrant and so neither kid has the genes to get it.

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