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  • IDK if this was already made, i googled but didnt find anything that leads to narutopedia. Edo Itachi vs Ay,Ohnoki, Tsunade, Mei and Gaara.

    Simply replace Madara with Itachi,rules are:

    • Itachi Can only win if All the kages are dead/sealed,(same for itachi--sealed)
    • Kage's knows about Amaterasu and Ocular genjutsu (only)
    • Itachi only knows about tsunade's medical ninjutsu and gaara's sand .-.
    • All kages are at full health and stamina (ay still has one arm)
    • same battlefield as the one madara fought the gokage on.
    • Itachi doesn't have kotoamatsuki on his side.

    Who stomps? who get stomped? ;_; (please delete if it was already created .___. )

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    • Onoki and Gaara take this by themselves. I need not explain how, given their skill sets.

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    • It's edo itachi ,dude ,-, not edo ramen ._. and who's niki? xd

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    • It doesn't matter if it's Edo Itachi or living Itachi. Itachi's shield doesn't live up to the hype. Even if it did, Gaara can pull Itachi out of his Susanoo and seal him. Onoki can obliterate Itachi's Susanoo along with him and while Itachi regenerates, Gaara can seal him.

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    • It wont go as how you're picturing it, Itachi would obviously resist, plus he can spam techniques...spam amaterasu, tsukuyomi....use a non eye contact genjutsu then end that person with amaterasu. Ohnoki needs a little time to activate particle style, that can be countered with yasaka magatama, or amaterasu.plus no particle style if the kage's are around.

      EDIT:The shield didnt live up to it's hype? when? all it was shown to do was block some snake, paperbombs and sasuke stabbing it with the kusanagi. The description is pretty bold, but let's just use that..it can repel all ninjutsu, we cant say otherwise cuz nothing else was shown abt the shield except for it's perfromance at itachi's final battle whilst alive.

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    • People can hype Itachi up all they want and wank him, but he will NEVER be even close to Madara`s level.

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    • I failed to see how that is revelant o.O but anyways ,itachi can never be at madara's level because he's not a thief like madara, he uses his own power whilst madara depends on others.boom!

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    • Could you please tell me what 'Edo' is?

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    • Entrancement wrote: Could you please tell me what 'Edo' is?

      As in Edo Tensei you know reanimated.

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    • This is just trying to wank Itachi to insane levels.

      We saw Edo Itachi. We know what he's capable of. He doesn't, and cannot, just endlessly spam all his MS techniques again and again, he can't multitask to crazy levels, he can't mass produce Kage Bunshins. He is not at Madara's level.

      Itachi is defeated and sealed, and it's not a particularly close match. At all.

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    • Onoki will have all the time in the world to prepare Dust Release while Gaara uses his sand and the sand within the surrounding area to distract him. While Itachi focuses on Gaara's sand coming from multiple directions, Onoki can prepare the Dust Release: Detachment of the Primitive World Technique. Before Onoki launches it, Gaara can cover Itachi in sand. If Itachi pulls a Madara and uses Susanoo to escape the sand, he will have a Dust Release cube surrounding it before being obliterated. As Itachi's body regenerates, Gaara can use Desert Layered Imperial Funeral Seal and boom.

      And you are right, Itachi can spam his techniques, but they will give him the same drawbacks they gave him while he was alive. Should he spam his techniques, he's eyes will suffer the consequences. Edo Tensei Sharingan can go blind, as seen with Izanami's usage so there's no reason why he wouldn't go blind from spamming his Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu.

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    • I hate when people wank Itachi.

      Ironically, I don't think a lot of users are giving him enough credit here.

      He obviously isn't on Madara's level, that's easy to see. But Madara was so far above the 5 Kage it was sad. Itachi doesn't need to be Madara's level.

      Plus, I'd say Itachi is a "smarter" fighter. Not saying Madara isn't smart, but Madara's fighting style is honestly just to overwhelm his opponent with power and skill. It works for him because he's that good.

      Itachi works smarter, not harder, and that makes up for a lot.

      I don't think Itachi would win. I think the 5 Kage win 100 out of 100 fights. But I think chances are big that Itachi would take one, maybe two Kage down with him.

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    • @PrinceHarris He used amaterasu and just got the bleeding he didn't hold his eyes in pain,i guess thats just the way izanami works, and it's totally different from amaterasu and tsukuyomi .-.

      and i really can't see why EDO!! Itachi is being lowballed to such an extent, we know he's not Madara,so what? his techniques speak for themselves. His clones has access to the mangekyou sharingan, 1 clone took down NarutO without moving a muscle, i don't see why they won't spam amaterasu, this is a fight where that is needed. PLus he can stream it and that's bad for slowpokes like Mei and Tsunade. When has Itachi not place a person under genjutsu at the beginning of a fight? he'll use that same move and end that person with Amaterasu, and with available intel on the yata mirror i don't see how they'll get past it . But luckily this is where Gaara comes in he'll pull Itachi out and itachi's ability to control susanoo whilst outside of It would definitely be used to end gaara with totsuka.. blade

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    • Itachi love.... damn, i really get tired of reading this over and over again.

      I mean there is God level shinobi like Naruto who has shown skills with base that actually kills a God like being, but many just put his base on Jonin level.

      and then comes Itachi, whose greatest win is against only Hebi Sasuke and suddenly for no reason the guy is Madara level. such BS.

      Ok... to be to the point.

      Itachi is without a doubt a Kage level shinobi (nothing more). his gretest asset is his MS and his smarts.

      in terms of power he probably ranks around low level Kage like Mei or Chojoro, but he overcomes this by his smarts.

      in a one on one fight, Itachi can easily take out the above Kage and put up a decent fight against high tier Kage like Onoki or A and may win.

      but with all 5 Kage on the field. he simply has no chance, edo or not.

      as you said, the Kage know about his occular genjutsu powers so they will blind his vision with Mei's Hidden Mist. Gaara can simply scatter his sand around and sense Itachi.

      there is no way he can dodge A.

      nothing he has on him can safeguard him from dust release. it took down full body susanoo. even if he were to block it with Yata Mirror, he would be wide open for Tsunade or A to hit him. his body isnt going to survive a punch from them.

      Gaara then just has to wrap him with his sand.

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    • AsianReaper wrote: I hate when people wank Itachi.

      Ironically, I don't think a lot of users are giving him enough credit here.

      He obviously isn't on Madara's level, that's easy to see. But Madara was so far above the 5 Kage it was sad. Itachi doesn't need to be Madara's level.

      Plus, I'd say Itachi is a "smarter" fighter. Not saying Madara isn't smart, but Madara's fighting style is honestly just to overwhelm his opponent with power and skill. It works for him because he's that good.

      Itachi works smarter, not harder, and that makes up for a lot.

      I don't think Itachi would win. I think the 5 Kage win 100 out of 100 fights. But I think chances are big that Itachi would take one, maybe two Kage down with him.

      I'm gonna be honest. I don't see it. I can't see it being a remotely close fight, and brains can't carry you that far when you can't carry it up with ability. He has no real advantages here. Literally everything he can do is pretty handily nullified. His speed? rendered pretty moot as every Shinobi here can keep up with him and one is faster. His Sharingan? We've had it said multiple opponents is the way to handle that, and one opponent can kill his vision via mist. His maneuverability? Multiple projectiles, and two opponents can change the topography. Amaterasu? We saw Gaara blocking it from Sasuke. Susanoo? Without the mirror, Mei, Onoki and Gaara act as pretty hard counters working in tandem.

      It's like putting Shikamaru against all of Team guy. Smarts will stop mattering if there's nothing you can really do.

      Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: @PrinceHarris He used amaterasu and just got the bleeding he didn't hold his eyes in pain,i guess thats just the way izanami works, and it's totally different from amaterasu and tsukuyomi .-.

      and i really can't see why EDO!! Itachi is being lowballed to such an extent, we know he's not Madara,so what? his techniques speak for themselves. His clones has access to the mangekyou sharingan, 1 clone took down NarutO without moving a muscle, i don't see why they won't spam amaterasu, this is a fight where that is needed. PLus he can stream it and that's bad for slowpokes like Mei and Tsunade. When has Itachi not place a person under genjutsu at the beginning of a fight? he'll use that same move and end that person with Amaterasu, and with available intel on the yata mirror i don't see how they'll get past it . But luckily this is where Gaara comes in he'll pull Itachi out and itachi's ability to control susanoo whilst outside of It would definitely be used to end gaara with totsuka.. blade

      None of them are slow, and the Kages fight as one and cover one another. Itachi has not shown he can spam Amaterasu.

      What happens? The Kages overwhelm and eliminate Itachi in short order. That's really all there is to this.

      If Itachi is yanked out of Susanoo, what reason do Mei or Onoki not have to instant blast him, btw?

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    • Itachi stomps....lol just kidding. If it was one on one then itachi could take them out,maybe having trouble fighting gaara or onoki. When itachi is fighting all of them,he cannot win.Even Madara required his rinnegan and wood release to keep the upper hand in the fight and at one point of time he did require his perfect susanoo to over power them.Itachi does not have perfect susanoo ,so if he comes to the same circumstances like Madara did he cannot bail out.Itachi could give a good fight, maybe kill one or two kages if he plays it smart but at the end he will lose.

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    • @WrightHS1 Tsunade and Mei are slow compared to the rest, Gaara is only fast on his sand, that leaves A and ohnoki, i dont see why tsundae or Mei wont get hit with amaterasu since they dont have any knowledge on it besides it kinda appears on point. .....Itachi did stream (spam) amaterasu against Sasuke and why would'nt he? if he's being overpowered. They do know about his sharingan and would avoid eye contact but non eye contact genjutsu can play a big role here, using that followed by amaterasu to the face is a definite kill. Besides Ay knew about the sharingan yet he stared Madara in the eyes, thats tsukuyomi in this case. Also to know if he;s an uchiha or not they'll have to look at his eyes at the beginning...tsukuyomi again, but we know if this battle were to happen in the anime they would'nt do that. But playing smartm knowing you have unlimited reserves i dont see why not he wont do it that way, besides its kinda smart ;')

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    • Itachi loses so hard it's not even funny. What chance does he have against an Onoki-empowered Ay?

      Jason of the Mangekyou wrote:

      Besides Ay knew about the sharingan yet he stared Madara in the eyes

      Ay had to avoid the eyes of ~25 Madara's there.

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    • @Jason

      Tsuanade and Mei are slow you say, to whom are you even comparing to them - A, KCM Naruto or Minato. they arent slow by any means. on that note, where is the so called speed feat of Itachi?

      Itachi can spam Amaterasu, so can Gaara spam his sand, and the latter doesnt even need any preparation. Gaara's sand stopped Sasuke's Amatersu, which is far superior in all regards. hell, A blitz past it.

      Tsukuyomi, the trump card of Itachi, did not even take down a weakass Kakashi from part 1, what makes you think it will neutralize the hardened Kage.

      No eye contact genjutsu can take down Kage. are you joking!! it took down early shippuden Naruto only because he has no talent for Genjutsu. these are Kage, they will break it an instant. it is not Tsukyomi like where days pass in a second. it is a normal genjutsu.

      unlimited reserves? yes edo have those, but the Edo start out with the chakra level they apparently possesed at their death time. the chakra just doesnt deplete. it in no way or shape means he goes and has Jubi level chakras.

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    • @TheKillman he was grabbed and suddenly stared at Madara's eye ;_;...he stared.....main point.

      @Nashikeine You;re straying away from the point, can they dodge amaterasu or not, especially when it's being streamed..Itachi can move his limbs so fast that sharingan couldn't read it,swapped hands with kcm naruto, spammed Shurikens without using a scroll like sasuke needed (limb movements),speed.

      Gaara just doesn't know when to expect it, his sand was already circling him and that caught on amaterasu which appeared like 10 feet away from gaara.

      So itachi wanted to kill Kakashi? breaking news the hardened kage can take on tsukuyomi lol ;_; they'll just be out for a week or so, no biggie.

      Orochimaru encountered itachi and got caught in a genjutsu he started shitting on his diaper. And i didnt see itachi making eye contact with him. It's still genjutsu isnt it?

      Never said he would go on and have juubi lvl chakra o.O i admit i made a mistake...i meant unlimited refills to his original reserves. ('-')_/
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    • @Jason

      i am not straying away from point. you said the Kage with the exception of A were slow, i just asked you on what basis did you come to that conclusion. i also asked you how do you even base that Itachi is super fast.

      the speed feats you mention - the part where Sharingan cant keep up, i think you mean when he fought Kakashi in part 1. onto that point, Itachi used diversion to hide his use of jutsu and even then Kakashi caught on to it - the shuriken exchange had nothing to do with speed. they were both equally matched. yeah, sasuke needed the scroll on his hands, because there is where he kept those shuriken duh. - KCM1 Naruto didnt fight Itachi. Itachi attacked Naruto after being forced by Kabuto and Naruto simply blocked and tried to dodge him. Naruto was more focused on getting answers from Itachi. Itachi fought B and Naruto fought Nagato. there was no speed blitzing there. they never fought so dont make up anything imaginary.


      to your point about Amaterasu - Amaterasu was never streamed. Never. the only time it was used on large scale was against Sasuke. itachi attacked him multiple times and just so you know the tired Hebi Sasuke actually dodged a couple of Amaterasu. Hebi Sasuke who was no where near Kage level back then could do that what makes you think that Gaara's automatic defence cannot shield against Amaterasu attempts.

      Gaara wouldnt know when the attack is coming... really... tell that to A who predicted Sasuke's Amaterasu. even Hebi Sasuke did so and dodged them.

      Yeah. the Kage will survive, probably better than Kakashi did. no doubt. yes, the Kage hit with Tsukuyomi may be more or less out to fight, but dont forget that Itachi can only put one person under Tsukuyomi under the time. in the mean time the other Kage are free to attack him. he is more or less vulnerable then.

      on that note, the Kage have Tsuande, who reversed the effects of Tsukuyomi from over Sasuke and Kakashi in an instant. she can just undo the mental damage on the Kage on the field and he would back in play.

      Orochimaru was caught by Sharingan Genjutsu. you were saying how non ocular (the finger genjutsu) will take down Kage. those are two different things and on a completely different level altogether.

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    • I feel like people misunderstood my original post so I'll reiterate.

      I don't think the battle will be close, I think Itachi loses every time.

      I don't think Itachi is anywhere near Madara's level (when they're both Edo's). That's not the point. Madara was so far above the Kage that it was laughable. Itachi doesn't need to be ludicrously above them in power to still pose a threat.

      Which he is; a threat. Not hilariously outmatching the Kage like Madara, but he's a threat that they have to take seriously. Madara beats the 5 Kage 100 out of 100, and the 5 Kage beat Itachi 100 out of 100.

      But Itachi, with all his skill and techniques, can take at least one Kage down with him, I think.

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    • I defintely agree that Itachi is plenty of a match for any of the 5 Kage in 1 vs 1 combat.But 5 vs 1 it`s just overkill.This is why i said that people need to stop comparing Itachi to Madara, because they are in totally different leagues.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: I defintely agree that Itachi is plenty of a match for any of the 5 Kage in 1 vs 1 combat.But 5 vs 1 it`s just overkill.This is why i said that people need to stop comparing Itachi to Madara, because they are in totally different leagues.

      I think a good comparison would be MS Itachi vs MS Madara. Madara has more power (not as much as EMS, since eye techniques will hurt him now), while Itachi is more tactical in his approach to battle. I think Madara would still win, but that's a better comparison.

      As soon as Madara got EMS, he left Itachi's level in the dust. And as an Edo with Hashi cells and Rinnegan, it's incredibly mismatched.

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    • Jason of the Mangekyou wrote: @WrightHS1 Tsunade and Mei are slow compared to the rest, Gaara is only fast on his sand, that leaves A and ohnoki, i dont see why tsundae or Mei wont get hit with amaterasu since they dont have any knowledge on it besides it kinda appears on point. .....Itachi did stream (spam) amaterasu against Sasuke and why would'nt he? if he's being overpowered. They do know about his sharingan and would avoid eye contact but non eye contact genjutsu can play a big role here, using that followed by amaterasu to the face is a definite kill. Besides Ay knew about the sharingan yet he stared Madara in the eyes, thats tsukuyomi in this case. Also to know if he;s an uchiha or not they'll have to look at his eyes at the beginning...tsukuyomi again, but we know if this battle were to happen in the anime they would'nt do that. But playing smartm knowing you have unlimited reserves i dont see why not he wont do it that way, besides its kinda smart ;')

      There is nothing indicating or stating Tsunade and Mei are 'slow' next to the rest. Tsunade routinely proved herself in the Madara fight and Mei was no deadweight there. We have seen Itachi telegraphs Amaterasu enormously upon initial buildup as well. And while he is doing that, four other Kages are simultaneously attacking him.

      As for A? He didn't 'stare' Madara in the eyes. He was grabbed by Susanoo,when fighting 5 of them, when distracted by Tsunade's fight. It is not a situation Itachi can replicate.

      Oh, and Edotensei is not 'unlimited resources'. We have seen several instances when an Edo is subject to the same limitation when alive (Gengetsu Hozuki, Mu, Minato and Tobirama), in some cases lacking chakra. It seems to be regenerating reserves but Itachi is subject to the same limits when he was alive. IE: he isn't going to be a multitasking, Bunshin spamming god.

      AsianReaper wrote: I feel like people misunderstood my original post so I'll reiterate.

      I don't think the battle will be close, I think Itachi loses every time.

      I don't think Itachi is anywhere near Madara's level (when they're both Edo's). That's not the point. Madara was so far above the Kage that it was laughable. Itachi doesn't need to be ludicrously above them in power to still pose a threat.

      Which he is; a threat. Not hilariously outmatching the Kage like Madara, but he's a threat that they have to take seriously. Madara beats the 5 Kage 100 out of 100, and the 5 Kage beat Itachi 100 out of 100.

      But Itachi, with all his skill and techniques, can take at least one Kage down with him, I think.

      I don't see how he takes any down with him. The Kages have shown they're extraordinary when it comes to teamwork. I mean maybe, maybe, he gets off a lucky Tsukuyomi or something, but everything else he can do is given a hard counter.

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    • Itachi gets overwhelmed and defeated. Totsuka Blade takes a while to seal. While it's sealing, another Kage could easily go on the offensive. Amaterasu can be dealt with by Gaara's sand or the Raikage's speed. Ohnoki was generally on the Raikage's back and lightening him when fighting against Madara, so if this battle plays out like that, then Ohnoki is safe. Tsunade could heal or be saved by Gaara or the Raikage. Mei could also be saved. So, Amaterasu for offensive doesn't appear to be very useful. If he uses Amaterasu from defense, Mei, Ohnoki, and Gaara could launch Jutsu at him. Basic Visual Genjutsu gets broken out of by the Kage. If it's too hard to break out of, a fellow Kage could help break out of it. Tsukuyomi is a one-shot, but it's possible that none of the Kage will get caught in it with intel on it. And other than that, the Yata Mirror is an overhyped shield with zero feats to support its hype. At best, it'll cause a stalemate. Kage take this low to mid difficulty.

      EDIT: Actually, I'm not sure if the Five Kage are capable of sealing Itachi. If they are, then I stand by everything else I said. If not, then Itachi wins by outlasting.

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    • I'm going to say Itachi wins. Not going to say he stomps, no I think going up against the 5 kage he's going to struggle with moderate difficulty and he'll need to be more strategic than Madara as Itachi is leagues below Madara in raw power. But ultimately I just don't see what the 5 Kage could do against the Yata Mirror and the Totsuka Blade unless they have a couple of TSB's lying about. Also quick question to help complete my final analysis on this fight does anyone know if after using Izanami or Izanagi a reanimated Uchiha's eye stays blind or can regenerate? But yeah for now I do think Itachi could get the win here but not without difficulty and it's not a 100% guarantee of victory. But still, being able to exchange fisticuffs with fatigued KCM 1 Naruto (who was able to trump the 4th Raikage's speed) gives him a good speed feat but the Particle Style and Mitotic Regeneration jutsu would still prove tricky and could get him in trouble.

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    • Five Kage win. I won't say all will come out of this for a few reasons. Ay can be incapacitated by Genjutsu. Mei and Tsuande can probably be sealed. But all they need to win is Gaara and Onoki. Gaara will just do what he did to Madara himself and pull him from his Susano'o. Then Onoki will use Dust Release and destroy him. While he regenerates his entire body he will be immobile, and at that point Gaara will seal him.

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    • Itachi solos zero diff, strongest character there ever was. Sorry I just thought I'd try and see what being an Itachi fanboy felt like...felt kind of nice, no wonder people do it.

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