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  • I maybe overthinking it, but how does Naruto differentiate using Version 1, Kurama Chakra Mode, and Kurama Mode?

    Like, I'm under the impression KCM and KCM2 work the same way Verizon 1 and 2 do. As in manipulating Kurama's Chakra and using them both in conjunction.

    If he never used Version 1 or 2 again I could just chalk it up as they just don't exist for him anymore, but he uses it to block Sasuke's Amaterasu.

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    • Littlegen wrote: Like, I'm under the impression KCM and KCM2 work the same way Verizon 1 and 2 do.

      It does, but the difference is one is in Chakra Mode and one isn't. So if V2 goes Chakra Mode, it'll look like KCM2. At least that's how it goes in my head canon.

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    • We don't even know how V2 works in complete detail. But perhaps, just perhaps... Nine Tails Chakra Mode is v1 of chakra mode while 'Kurama Mode' is v2 of the same thing?

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    • Littlegen wrote: I maybe overthinking it, but how does Naruto differentiate using Version 1, Kurama Chakra Mode, and Kurama Mode?

      I don't think he does. Now that Kurama is free to cooperate with Naruto, their power is essentially shared. Naruto can freely tap into his chakra at any point. Chakra mode simply uses the chakra for physical augmentation, and kurama mode allows projecting the chakra avatar.

      V1 is simply chakra mode + kurama's will, while V2 is kurama's "essence" leaking through (IE naruto is transforming into the actual biju).

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    • So... two paths toward the same goal? With one or the other dictating the transformation?

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    • Littlegen wrote: So... two paths toward the same goal? With one or the other dictating the transformation?

      It's the same power used in a number of ways. Though Naruto (sadly) hasn't transformed into Kurama since. In theory though, he could totally turn into Kurama (as an actual flesh-and-blood Biju) if he wants to.

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    • @killman: Through the V2 cloak he got to 8 tails

      Maybe this unique chakra mode is Kurama's special ability. Every other Tailed Beast has a special element or attribute except Kurama. hes just absurdly strong.

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    • Kurama also grants the ability to sense negative emotions. Maybe kcm2 is actually a combination of Naruto’s chakra and Kurama’s while ntcm/kcm is just Naruto using Kurama’s chakra.

      The reason behind the 2 versions is clear. NTCM is the usage of chakra that Naruto stole from Kurama while KCM2 is Naruto cooperating with Kurama. What this cooperation means is up to debate.

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    • Didnt one of the databook say Kurama Mode is just the complete version of NTCM and allows Naruto to uses TBB and enter Tailed Beast Mode?

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    • LegionZero wrote: Didnt one of the databook say Kurama Mode is just the complete version of NTCM and allows Naruto to uses TBB and enter Tailed Beast Mode?

      Yes.

      As I see it, V1 and V2 are common to the jinchūriki of any tailed beast (except Shukaku and the Ten-Tails), while NTCM and KM are unique to Kurama's jinchūriki. I guess Naruto used V1 against Sasuke's Amaterasu because he didn't have enough chakra to enter NTCM at the time.

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    • JOA20 wrote: Yes.

      As I see it, V1 and V2 are common to the jinchūriki of any tailed beast (except Shukaku and the Ten-Tails), while NTCM and KM are unique to Kurama's jinchūriki. I guess Naruto used V1 against Sasuke's Amaterasu because he didn't have enough chakra to enter NTCM at the time.

      MM. I don't think it's a "If I use enough Kurama Chakra, it will turn into Chakra Mode Chakra". Naruto described it just as utilizing Kurama's Chakra in of itself.

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    • I personally think it's choice of how to use kurama's chakra. We have seen he could use the old school v1 cloaks like in the final clash at VOTE between naruto and sasuke. So he could also use v2 if he wanted to, as well as full kurama transformation. But KCM has a cooler look.

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    • Maybe the different versions have different properties? The Red Chakra Cloak seems to be packed with intense heat, it's almost untouchable to most people. While I reckon the golden Version being that dangerous to anyone. And the Golden One seems to be rich in life energy or something as it turns the Zetsu's into tress by just touching it.

      It would have made sense if The NTCM and KM was the combination of Ashura chakra/Uzumaki chakra and Kurama chakra. But Minato just had to be given the same thing.....

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    • [Did my comment not go through?]

      The thing is, it seems Kurama himself can use Chakra Mode, as seen in THE LAST. So I don't think it has anything to do with Will.

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    • Littlegen wrote: MM. I don't think it's a "If I use enough Kurama Chakra, it will turn into Chakra Mode Chakra". Naruto described it just as utilizing Kurama's Chakra in of itself.

      Then why didn't Naruto enter NTCM when Sasuke cast Amaterasu on him?

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    • JOA20 wrote:

      Littlegen wrote: MM. I don't think it's a "If I use enough Kurama Chakra, it will turn into Chakra Mode Chakra". Naruto described it just as utilizing Kurama's Chakra in of itself.

      Then why didn't Naruto enter NTCM when Sasuke cast Amaterasu on him?

      If I knew I wouldn't have made this thread. I just know when Naruto pulled on Kurama's Chakra, he instantly went into Chakra Mode. [1]

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    • Littlegen wrote:

      JOA20 wrote: Then why didn't Naruto enter NTCM when Sasuke cast Amaterasu on him?

      If I knew I wouldn't have made this thread. I just know when Naruto pulled on Kurama's Chakra, he instantly went into Chakra Mode. [1]

      The only logical idea I can think of is the quantity of chakra.

      If Naruto could've entered NTCM against Sasuke after that huge explosion, he'd have dodged Amaterasu just like A did. The fact he didn't means that he was unable to.

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    • JOA20 wrote: The only logical idea I can think of is the quantity of chakra.

      If Naruto could've entered NTCM against Sasuke after that huge explosion, he'd have dodged Amaterasu just like A did. The fact he didn't means that he was unable to.

      In all consideration that is likely the case. Considering the Rookie 9 all received fux Kurama Cloaks once they directly connected with Naruto's and Kurama's Chakra. [1] [2] [3]

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    • This is how I understand it:

      V1: Human using Tailed Beast chakra
      V2: Human and Tailed Beast hybrid
      Tailed Beast Mode (V3): Tailed Beast

      and...

      - KCM1: Human using Tailed Beast chakra
      - KCM2: Human and Tailed Beast mix chakra (essentially hybrid)
      - Tailed Beast Mode (KCM3): Tailed Beast

      So essentially they're the same, but the KCM line is just the V line while transforming the body into chakra as well. The reason Naruto uses the KCM version is because it has phasing abilities (shown in The Last when Naruto puts his whole arm into Hinata's chest). At least that's what I think.

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    • New Theory pertaining to Chakra Mode in of itself. The idea is that Chakra Mode is essentially the release of Chakra from all Tenketsu/Chakra Points simultaneously.

      Under that idea Kurama's Chakra may have a unique property that allows it to be released from any Tenketsu in the body.

      Welp This is dead.

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    • V1 and V2 are referred as cloaks. KCM1, KCM2 and KM are modes.

      My theory is this;

      1. Kyuubi Modes are ninjutsu while,

        Tailed beast V1/V2 Cloaks aren't ninjutsu or Better put are not 
        ninja skills.
      

      2. Kyuubi chakra Modes is Naruto having a dominant and specific control over the Kyuubi's power. The Kyuubi's red chakra is turned yellow (like Naruto's chakra) showing Naruto's full control of it.

      With Chakra cloaks, the dominant control goes to Kurama with Naruto having less.

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