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  • Alright so here's the thing, the form that Obito and Madara took on after becoming Ten-Tails' jinchuriki is called "Sage Transformation" because they transformed into the sage, and the sage being Hagoromo.

    But here's the weird part, just because Hagoromo was the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki, if a person also becomes the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki, it doesn't transform you into Hagoromo, because if that's the case then Naruto would transform into Kushina or Mito or something.

    So what would make more sense, is that the "Sage Transformation" is just Tailed Beast Transformation, because they're actually turning into Kaguya, and since Kaguya IS Ten-Tails, it is therefore a Tailed Beast Transformation. The tree form and the monster form are all Tailed Beast Transformation, they're just different forms of the same Tailed Beast.

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    • They didn't transform into Hagoromo or Kaguya.By Sage Transformation they acquired Six Paths Senjutsu, which is something that Hagoromo (and Hamura) had before becoming the TTJ. By becoming the TTJ you get SPS by default, on top of the ten-tails itself. Also the ten-tails at his fullest is Kaguya combined with the shinju. When Madara (and Obito) sealed the ten-tails into themselves they sealed just the Gedo Mazo + (almost) all 9 bijuu.

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    • Vladosaurus wrote: They didn't transform into Hagoromo or Kaguya.

      The fact that they grew horns and manifested a robe that looks almost exactly like Hagoromo's kinda shows it. I remember Obito and/or Madara stating that they became the Six Paths somewhere as well. Also whenever they refer to anything about their form, they usually say "Sage's" or "Six Path's", which sounds like they're referring to Hagoromo.

      Vladosaurus wrote: By Sage Transformation they acquired Six Paths Senjutsu, which is something that Hagoromo (and Hamura) had before becoming the TTJ.

      Acquiring Six Paths Senjutsu has nothing to do with Sage Transformation. The latter utilises Jugo's Clan's enzymes to transform into a mutated thing.

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    • Georgio722 wrote:

      Vladosaurus wrote: They didn't transform into Hagoromo or Kaguya.

      The fact that they grew horns and manifested a robe that looks almost exactly like Hagoromo's kinda shows it. I remember Obito and/or Madara stating that they became the Six Paths somewhere as well. Also whenever they refer to anything about their form, they usually say "Sage's" or "Six Path's", which sounds like they're referring to Hagoromo.

      Vladosaurus wrote: By Sage Transformation they acquired Six Paths Senjutsu, which is something that Hagoromo (and Hamura) had before becoming the TTJ.

      Acquiring Six Paths Senjutsu is completely different to Sage Transformation. The latter utilises Jugo's Clan's enzymes to transform into a mutated thing.

      I have to agree with Vladosaurus with this one, no way in heck did they become Hagoromo NOR Kaguya LMAO!! Wtf is wrong with y'all little kids smh?! Kaguya is the Ten tails, plus the divine tree of god, plus ALL the humans on earth's chakra & a Otsutsuki with powers before that and special chakra/bodies/cells the Otsutsuki have beforehand!! Hagoromo was HALF Otsutsuki and had a quarter of Kaguya's chakra from everything I mentioned above, he already had acquired SM that turned into a higher form once he became the TTJ (I think). But I don't think Hagoromo & Kaguya is anywhere near Madara TTJ & Obito TTJ, they're on 2 different levels yo!! Like I said, Kaguya & Hagoromo already had special chakra/bodies before becoming TTJ from being a Otsutsuki which we know are higher beings to begin with & essentially god's!!

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    • DrixMalone wrote: I have to agree with Vladosaurus with this one, no way in heck did they become Hagoromo NOR Kaguya LMAO!!

      They didn't become Hagoromo, that's the whole point of the thread. It's literally written at the start of the thread. But that's what they're implying in the anime, which doesn't make sense. What makes more sense, is that they became Kaguya, hence Madara transforming into Kaguya.

      DrixMalone wrote: Kaguya is the Ten tails, plus the divine tree of god, plus ALL the humans on earth's chakra & a Otsutsuki with powers before that and special chakra/bodies/cells the Otsutsuki have beforehand!!

      I think you meant Ten Tails is Kaguya plus the God Tree plus MOST of the humans' chakra on Earth (Chakra Fruit). Kaguya turned into Ten Tails, not the other way around.

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    • I also don't think it should be named like this, because the name "Sage Transformation" seems to refer to the Hagoromo or to the Clan of Juugo. And it has nothing to do with Juugo and the Hagoromo was a Jinchuriki of Juubi as Obito and Madara, do with that there is nothing special about Hagoromo. It makes sense to name "Juubi Transformation" or "Kaguya Transformation" this Jinchurikis..l

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