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  • I might be perspective blind or is Itachi using tsukuyomi and Amaterasu with the same eye[1]

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    • https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha#Mangeky.C5.8D_Sharingan He can use Tsukuyomi in both eyes, but Amaterasu in only his right eye.

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    • Never knew that lol Why did zetsu divide the abilites in both eyes? he said the strongest genjutsu in the left and strongest physical atk in the right.

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    • Because it is something he uses mainly with his left eye, he can just also use it with his right and he probably disovered that later on and Zetsu just didn't know that

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    • Might just be a goof. Or maybe its not Tsukuyomi. Cant tell based on just the page

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    • Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke in the bottom panels, so no goof there.

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    • Minato's face being on the Hokage Rock too early. Hashirama's face missing from Madara's body. Naruto's arm having regrown. Kishimoto makes mistakes.

      Considering that Zetsu directly says in 389 that Tsukuyomi is an ability of Itachi's left Mangekyo, any depiction of Tsukuyomi being used with the right eye should be assumed as an error.

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    • Then that should've been consistent afterwards, edo itachi said he'd use tsukuyomi on kabuto to tell him to give the signs to release the reanimation jutsu, after izanami Itachi was seen using an MS genjutsu on kabuto with his right eye, most likely tsukuyomi. Zetsu was just misinformed maybe.

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    • Itachi clearly stated he was going to use Tsukuyomi to do it too.

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    • Where does he say he's going to use Tsukuyomi? And not all genjutsu used with the Mangekyo active are Tsukuyomi, as shown by Sasuke's feather genjutsu in 413.

      Even if he does say it, I see no reason it isn't still a mistake; the same mistake can be made twice. Given the option between doubting the text and doubting the art, the art tends to have a greater chance of error.

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    • FlatZone wrote: https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Itachi_Uchiha#Mangeky.C5.8D_Sharingan He can use Tsukuyomi in both eyes, but Amaterasu in only his right eye.

      Did you actually just use your own edit as the source for this lol

      In any case, it seems like @Snapper is right. Each Mangekyo gets one specific ability, so Itachi using it in his right eye is probably an error

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    • Yes I did, because it's sourced.

      Also, we can say the same for Obito not touching somebody to suck them into Kamui, as Jason pointed out. But we leave that alone, so we can leave this alone too. Besides Shisui can use one of his Mangekyo techs in both eyes and it was never stated that he only had 1 tech to use or anything, Madara has also never talked about or shown his Mangekyo techs. Itachi used Tsukuyomi in both eyes, he just can't uses Amaterasu in both eyes.

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    • Except according to the lore, each eye has one ability and that hasnt changed so it is more likely that Kishimoto made a couple oopsies, especially considering the time constarints weekly mangaka have to deal with

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    • Which is why unless we go through each page and remove these "oopsies" then it won't matter. Obito's oopsie is commonly accepted for one example. But I also remember that it was said in DB3 that one must have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to awaken Susanoo and clearly that was also untrue later on

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    • FlatZone wrote:

      Obito's oopsie is commonly accepted for one example.

      If chapter 675 is the only example, it should be pointed out that it isnt explicitly shown that he didnt didnt touch her and Obito has been shown to open a portal to expel people and objects from his dimension. Where was it stated that he HAS to be touching to teleport others.


      FlatZone wrote:

      But I also remember that it was said in DB3 that one must have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to awaken Susanoo and clearly that was also untrue later on

      This is called a retcon, where details are changed later on. This statement is still true for Itachi.

      If you go back to the chapter where Itachi used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke, there is no indication that he used his right eye for Tsukuyomi.

      It may also be subject to its own retcon in which Kishimoto is explaining his "new" rules for us. Even if this is the case we can still look back and find no confirmation that his right eye was used

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    • Every single instance where he needed to warp somebody, he touched them. You can't see his hand there. For Torune and Foo, he touched them. JasonoftheMangekyo has already posted the panels talking about this in that other thread. It's most definitely a "whoopsie" as it was shown that Kakashi's eye was the one that didn't need contact to warp others.

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    • Again, where was it shown that he didnt touch Sakura. Obito can expel objects and objects from the Kamui dimension without touching them, so even if he wasnt touching her, he hasnt done anything that contradicts his prior actions.

      If you are going to reference another thread, you can at least link it.

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    • I was referring to some users saying that he doesn't have to touch somebody to warp them INTO Kamui. He has to and only once or twice in the ANIME did he not have to. So the same Obito defenders who claim Obito can have that feat but Itachi cannot have the both eyes feat are hypocrites. If you're going to get all defensive and argue about it make sure you get my comments right first.

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    • Sasuke also has 9 tomoe in his Rinnegan on his first appearance but we go on what's consistent yeah?

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    • Source? ik there are errors in the manga.

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    • That was a one time thing with the 9 Tomoe, so if we agree to go on consistency then Itachi can only use Tsukuyomi in left eye, Obito HAS to make contact with somebody to warp them with Kamui and Sasuke never had 9 Tomoe in his Rinnegan.

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    • I didn't even know there was an argument for Obito not touching people tbh. His Kamui always involved his own person, so I'd assume it had to be touching him.

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    • Squinty97 wrote: I didn't even know there was an argument for Obito not touching people tbh. His Kamui always involved his own person, so I'd assume it had to be touching him.

      Sucking in, yes. Spitting out, no.

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    • @LegionZero that makes sense too, since Kamui is his dimension. He should be able to eject anything he wants wherever it is lol

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    • Yes he was clearly not touching Torune and Foo when he ejected them for Kabuto so ejecting def doesn't require touching. We also have to remember that they were under Genjutsu while in there too so there was no struggle from them whatsoever.

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    • So what's the conclusion here guys?!!

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    • Tsukuyomi is only in one eye, Kishi just hadnt come up with that idea until later on

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    • Tsukuyomi can used dually, it's just a matter of preference. Like how Hashi doesn't start with Shinsusenju in his fights.

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    • Meh seems more like an inconsistency in the art rather than him being able to use it in both eyes

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